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Home Theater => Sources => HTPCs => Topic started by: Philander on Aug 27, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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Can anyone confirm if an HDMI-capable Receiver can decode the raw 192khz/24-bit (or even 96khz/24) Audio from a PC or a Laptop?
So the output is high-resolution studio like audio.
The settings and connection is:
Laptop or PC with HDMI (set the audio using HDMI with 192/24 sample rate), connected via HDMI cable to the AVReceiver with HDMI input and the Receiver will process it as 192/24 bit audio (not down-converted to 48/24 bit or 44.1/24).
By using this connection/set-up, you are allowing the receiver to process the audio using its DAC/DSP chip (not DSP effects), thus getting the maximum audio resolution.
Even your lousy MP3s can be up-converted to 192-96/24 bit audio, and the audio difference is night and day.
I can do this my old Acer Laptop through SPDIF and with my Marantz (no HDMI). I want to know if this is possible with HDMI-equipped receiver.
Thanks.
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Can anyone confirm if an HDMI-capable Receiver can decode the raw 192khz/24-bit (or even 96khz/24) Audio from a PC or a Laptop?
So the output is high-resolution studio like audio.
The settings and connection is:
Laptop or PC with HDMI (set the audio using HDMI with 192/24 sample rate), connected via HDMI cable to the AVReceiver with HDMI input and the Receiver will process it as 192/24 bit audio (not down-converted to 48/24 bit or 44.1/24).
By using this connection/set-up, you are allowing the receiver to process the audio using is DSP chip (not DSP effects), thus getting the maximum audio resolution.
Even your lousy MP3s can be up-converted to 192-96/24 bit audio, and the audio difference is night and day.
I can do this my old Acer Laptop through SPDIF and with my Marantz (no HDMI). I want to know if this is possible with HDMI-equipped receiver.
Thanks.
Yes it is possible. Most AVRs I've encountered shut off processing when handling 192/24 however, as they're limited to processing data upto 96/24.
Since data from MP3 files is in floating point, encoding MP3s from sources superior to CDs and DVDs actually make sense (and playback in systems capable of handling higher resolutions can also help).
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Yes it is possible. Most AVRs I've encountered shut off processing when handling 192/24 however, as they're limited to processing data upto 96/24.
Since data from MP3 files is in floating point, encoding MP3s from sources superior to CDs and DVDs actually make sense (and playback in systems capable of handling higher resolutions can also help).
Thanks for the confirmation, I can now retire my old receiver and start hunting HDMI-equipped receiver.
I wonder why most of the audio enthusiast here don't use this kind of audio set-up. I am using this since 2005 and the audio out is like HD quality, even my high-end SACD/DVD-Audio players has not match to the quality of the 96/24 audio
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Can anyone confirm if an HDMI-capable Receiver can decode the raw 192khz/24-bit (or even 96khz/24) Audio from a PC or a Laptop?
So the output is high-resolution studio like audio.
The settings and connection is:
Laptop or PC with HDMI (set the audio using HDMI with 192/24 sample rate), connected via HDMI cable to the AVReceiver with HDMI input and the Receiver will process it as 192/24 bit audio (not down-converted to 48/24 bit or 44.1/24).
By using this connection/set-up, you are allowing the receiver to process the audio using is DAC/DSP chip (not DSP effects), thus getting the maximum audio resolution.
Even your lousy MP3s can be up-converted to 192-96/24 bit audio, and the audio difference is night and day.
I can do this my old Acer Laptop through SPDIF and with my Marantz (no HDMI). I want to know if this is possible with HDMI-equipped receiver.
Thanks.
My Yamaha AVR can decode 192-96 file via HDMI :)
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does the dsp-a1 can decode 192/24?
ano po ba maganda na cd player...
im using only jriver and plan to buy sound or maybe a cdp
i heard some cdp has a bit ..
meron akong laserdisc naka lagay 1bit ano po ibig sabihin ?
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Thanks for the confirmation, I can now retire my old receiver and start hunting HDMI-equipped receiver.
I wonder why most of the audio enthusiast here don't use this kind of audio set-up. I am using this since 2005 and the audio out is like HD quality, even my high-end SACD/DVD-Audio players has not match to the quality of the 96/24 audio
Because HDMI is a high jitter interface. It's based off DVI, with audio data included in the stream. With no dedicated lines for audio, audio data has to be encoded and decoded out of the combined data stream.
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My Yamaha AVR can decode 192-96 file via HDMI :)
The far majority can. However, some levels of DSP processing shut-off in most when receiving 192/24.
Try manipulating your settings while the AVR is fed with multi-channel 192/24.
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My Yamaha AVR can decode 192-96 file via HDMI :)
SO even if you play MP3 in the laptop/pc and you set the audio out of the laptop to 192/24 bit, your Yamaha AVR can recognize it as 192/4 and will be able to play it?
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does the dsp-a1 can decode 192/24?
ano po ba maganda na cd player...
im using only jriver and plan to buy sound or maybe a cdp
I am yet to see a CD player that allows to output of 96/24 audio, moreso the 192/24 using digital output.
They are always 44.1Khz/16-bit and for DVD-Video is 48/16-bit.
For DVD Audio is 96/24
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SO even if you play MP3 in the laptop/pc and you set the audio out of the laptop to 192/24 bit, your Yamaha AVR can recognize it as 192/4 and will be able to play it?
In my testing, if you upsample via software the file to a higher bitrate, the Yamaha recognizes the sampling... so Yes..
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Again remember that source need not to be 96/24 or 192/24 audio. As long as your HDMI from Laptop or PC is set-to out 96/24 or 192/24 sampling rates that you can use the AVR DAC to process the signal.
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The far majority can. However, some levels of DSP processing shut-off in most when receiving 192/24.
Try manipulating your settings while the AVR is fed with multi-channel 192/24.
Hmmmm interesting.. Let me try this later when i get home... ..
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In my testing, if you upsample via software the file to a higher bitrate, the Yamaha recognizes the sampling... so Yes..
No need to upsample via any software.
Set the HDMI Audio Out to 192/24 or 96/24
Again. Use any audio file (even lousy MP3 files), play it in VLC or Media Player or ANY audio player.
Your receiver will determine the audio being fed if its 192/24 or 96/24.
See reference picture (but this must be for HDMI out, sample image is for analog as I dont have a connected HDMI in my laptop)
(http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/7825/19224.jpg)
This is for SPDIF Audio Out (not through HDMI:
(http://cdn.head-fi.org/f/fa/350x700px-LL-faff9516_e17.png)
Sample image in the net connected via LG Receiver HDMI:
(http://i.imgur.com/0EDMg.jpg)
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Believe me people, sound difference is breathtaking (well for my Marantz DAC in particular, makes you wanna throw your expensive CD player, hahha).
Also, once you do this and in most cases it only supports 2ch audio. My Marantz will not even allow me to use DSP effects to make it psuedo 5.1. Just pure Stereo.
Meaning, even if your source is 2ch lpcm audio, DD 2.0, DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1, once you enable 96/24 or 192/24, it will only play back in high resolution stereo audio in either 96/24 or 192/24. Unless your SOURCE is 5ch 96/24 or 5ch 192/24 and your software (or even HW) player allows you to out those audio format digitally to be processed by the receiver.
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Thanks sir masubukan din
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Thanks sir masubukan din
Yes, please do so.
What you need:
PC or Laptop with HDMI
HDMI Cable connected to
HDMI Receiver
VLC or ANY Media player (no upsampling software needed)
Any audio file (lousy MP3 as much as possible so you can hear the difference)
Configuration.
Set the HDMI Audio out of your PC or Laptop to enable 96/24 (or 192/24) as shown in the picture (Go to Control Panel, click/select Sound, at the Playback Tab, right click the HDMI audio set it to Default Device and right click again and select Properties, Go to Advance tab and enable 96/24 (or 192/24)).
Select the appropriate source from the Receiver.
Play back the file using VLC or any Media Player (no special settings needed), then hear the difference.
Your receiver should indicates that the audio file being fed is 96/24 or 192/24
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Brader Philander nacompare mo na ba using DAC same source if same output ba? Thanks
Mukhang magandang icompare sa setup ni sis courage itong setup na pc or laptop. ;) ;)
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Brader Philander nacompare mo na ba using DAC same source if same output ba? Thanks
Mukhang magandang icompare sa setup ni sis courage itong setup na pc or laptop. ;) ;)
I have played FLAC's with 192 and 96 resolution so many times using my Laptop via HDMI connected to Yamaha.. It was very good pero di ako makuntento
I also tried playing NMT as my music source via HDMI playing same resolution.. it was OK..
Until i tried a dedicated Audio player NP30 connected to the Yamaha via Analog. It was heaven... I even bought an external DAC and connect it to the NP30 then to Yamaha via Analog.. Thinking na baka may igaganda pa.. Ang hirap malaman nang difference nung wala ay may dac yung NP30. kung may improvement man.. very subtle.. at sa LFE area pa yung difference... Naisip ko tuloy parang napasubo ata ako sa DAC
So i tried another route..
Laptop ->USB-SPDIF Converter with Galvanic Isolation -> DAC-> Receiver Analog IN's..
Pag play na pag play ko nang file using J-Rivers, removing all types of processing from the softare and making sure Audio Path is Direct, PARANG NALAGYAN NANG HANGER ANG BIBIG KO he he he... AMazing details, amazing soundstage, amazing BASS.. amazing everything... NOW IM HAPPY... Kelangan ko lang talaga nang Lecheng Remote
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Brader Philander nacompare mo na ba using DAC same source if same output ba? Thanks
Mukhang magandang icompare sa setup ni sis courage itong setup na pc or laptop. ;) ;)
I did the following comparison (same source, A usual 44.1khz CD Audio, all connected to a Marantz Receiver).
My Acer Laptop via SPDIF set at 96/24 - Audio is superb
My Acer Laptop via SPDIF set at 44.1/16 - Audio is just usual
My Acer Laptop via its analog stereo out to analog stereo in of the AVR (regardless if the audio sampling rate is 44/16, 48/16, 48/24, 96/24, 192/24) - Audio is just usual
Pioneer SACD player via optical - Audio is just usual
Pioneer SACD player via coaxial - Audio is just usual
Pioneer SACD player via 2ch Analog - Audio is just usual
Pioneer SACD player via 6ch Analog (but connected only to the fronts for 2ch) - Audio is superb but still the 96/24 settings is better)
Sony FlagShip SACD player via optical/coaxial - Audio is just usual
Sony FlagShip SACD player via 2ch Analog Out - Audio is great but still the 96/24 settings is better)
Devices
Sony DVP-S9000ES SACD Player
Pioneer is Pioneer 676A MultiFormat Player
Marantz SR4300
Acer is 4736Z with optical out (with HDMI but my receiver does not have HDMI)
With those tests, I was able to compare the quality of Pioneer DAC (burrbrown and not), Acer DAC, Sony DAC and Marantz DAC
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We have compared PC -> Receiver and NMT -> Receiver vs PC -> Musiland DAC.
Malaking ganda nung ginamitan ng dedicated DAC. Matamlay ang tunog pag receiver lang ang nagde-decode.
Important din pala yung software na gagamitin sa PC. Malaking factor ito sa resulting sound quality.
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Again, the set up I'm referring here does not need special software to upconvert as you just passthrough the 96/24 audio to be processed by the DAC of the receiver and it should read by you AVR as 96/24 signal (your AVR's display should indicate 96/24, otherwise you are still listening to 44.1/16)
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Yes, please do so.
What you need:
PC or Laptop with HDMI
HDMI Cable connected to
HDMI Receiver
VLC or ANY Media player (no upsampling software needed)
Any audio file (lousy MP3 as much as possible so you can hear the difference)
Configuration.
Set the HDMI Audio out of your PC or Laptop to enable 96/24 (or 192/24) as shown in the picture (Go to Control Panel, click/select Sound, at the Playback Tab, right click the HDMI audio set it to Default Device and right click again and select Properties, Go to Advance tab and enable 96/24 (or 192/24)).
Select the appropriate source from the Receiver.
Play back the file using VLC or any Media Player (no special settings needed), then hear the difference.
Your receiver should indicates that the audio file being fed is 96/24 or 192/24
very nice..masubukan nga po... ;)
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I have played FLAC's with 192 and 96 resolution so many times using my Laptop via HDMI connected to Yamaha.. It was very good pero di ako makuntento
I also tried playing NMT as my music source via HDMI playing same resolution.. it was OK..
Until i tried a dedicated Audio player NP30 connected to the Yamaha via Analog. It was heaven... I even bought an external DAC and connect it to the NP30 then to Yamaha via Analog.. Thinking na baka may igaganda pa.. Ang hirap malaman nang difference nung wala ay may dac yung NP30. kung may improvement man.. very subtle.. at sa LFE area pa yung difference... Naisip ko tuloy parang napasubo ata ako sa DAC
So i tried another route..
Laptop ->USB-SPDIF Converter with Galvanic Isolation -> DAC-> Receiver Analog IN's..
Pag play na pag play ko nang file using J-Rivers, removing all types of processing from the softare and making sure Audio Path is Direct, PARANG NALAGYAN NANG HANGER ANG BIBIG KO he he he... AMazing details, amazing soundstage, amazing BASS.. amazing everything... NOW IM HAPPY... Kelangan ko lang talaga nang Lecheng Remote
Pero yung setup mo default? Compare mo nga yung settings sa taas with your current setup?
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Again, the set up I'm referring here does not need special software to upconvert as you just passthrough the 96/24 audio to be processed by the DAC of the receiver and it should read by you AVR as 96/24 signal (your AVR's display should indicate 96/24, otherwise you are still listening to 44.1/16)
Windows Vista and 7 use an audio stack that works on floating point data. This is how it mixes sound from different applications, then converts it back to integer for your sound adapter (in this case, your AVR). The operations that it applies to the data that passes through causes losses along the way.
I suggest trying an application that can output utilizing Wasapi Exclusive Mode to bypass some of the subsystems (if you're using HDMI). This will pass the audio stream in a less altered form.
Upsampling will not gain resolution from a lower resolution recording, though different upsampling methods can sound different (and some may prefer one over another).
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Pero yung setup mo default? Compare mo nga yung settings sa taas with your current setup?
I already did, actually ganun nga yung setup ko before.. Just using HDMI of Laptop, connected to Receiver and using the receiver's DAC.. The sound is good..
Pero mas better nung gumamit ako dedicated Audio player, using players DAC
Mas naging Ok nung yung Laptop ko ginamit kong Transport using J River as Player, V-Link192 Converter, Rega DAC to Yamaha..
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Actually I am not in any way referring to upsampling here. I am just forcing to let the source to ouput 96/24 via digital so that we will utilize the AVR's DAC of 192/24 or 96/24 capability.
That is why I said no special software to use.
I hope I am clear on that.
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Actually I am not in any way referring to upsampling here. I am just forcing to let the source to ouput 96/24 via digital so that we will utilize the AVR's DAC of 192/24 or 96/24 capability.
That is why I said no special software to use.
I hope I am clear on that.
That process actually upsamples the digital file or the signal. If it's not upsampled it should remain to its original signal and the AVR should get whatever the original sampling rate of the file is 44.1hz -> 44.1hz.
Upsampling is also forcing a 44.1 signal to higher hz..di ba?
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That process actually upsamples the digital file or the signal. If it's not upsampled it should remain to its original signal and the AVR should get whatever the original sampling rate of the file is 44.1hz -> 44.1hz.
Upsampling is also forcing a 44.1 signal to higher hz..di ba?
I am agreeing with you on this. But I am more of referring the upsampling using any upsampling software.
Firstly we dont know what happens in the AVR's DAC; how it process the sound when it receives the 96/24 signal. It could be upsampled by the AVR's DAC, it could be it output other signal, it maybe that AVR is only saying that the file being fed is 96/24 but it did not specifically show or tell us how it is being processed, you get what I mean?
Why dont we let the other users try this set-up and let them hear the difference if there's any.
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In my testing, if you upsample via software the file to a higher bitrate, the Yamaha recognizes the sampling... so Yes..
Have you tried my method, by not using any upsampling software and just let the Windows driver use 96/24 or 192/24?
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Have you tried my method, by not using any upsampling software and just let the Windows driver use 96/24 or 192/24?
I tried it but i never tried the windows settings, i just let it pass whatever resolution of the digital files is.. 44.1, 96 and 192...
For me passing Audio thru hdmi upsampled or not is just ok... I have a collection of good 96/24 files so no need upsampling there ... i just let it pass thru the HDMI thru receiver using it's DAC...and it's still just ok compared to how i'm currently connected now...
In fact i even compared the sound of my PS3 playing 44.1hz music connected via HDMI and via it's optical port. Mas maganda tunog nang music sa Optical vs HDMI, i just used the HDMI sa PS3 so i can watch a movie with HD track...
I like the sound better when i used a dedicated Media player and use its internal dac(Wolfson)...
But nothing beats as my ear is hearing it the sound coming from USB with converter to my Rega DAC then to receiver... But its just me... Other people who hears it might disagree with me.. Will see this saturday :)
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I tried it but i never tried the windows settings, i just let it pass whatever resolution of the digital files is.. 44.1, 96 and 192...
For me passing Audio thru hdmi upsampled or not is just ok... I have a collection of good 96/24 files so no need upsampling there ... i just let it pass thru the HDMI thru receiver using it's DAC...and it's still just ok compared to how i'm currently connected now...
In fact i even compared the sound of my PS3 playing 44.1hz music connected via HDMI and via it's optical port. Mas maganda tunog nang music sa Optical vs HDMI, i just used the HDMI sa PS3 so i can watch a movie with HD track...
I like the sound better when i used a dedicated Media player and use its internal dac(Wolfson)...
But nothing beats as my ear is hearing it the sound coming from USB with converter to my Rega DAC then to receiver... But its just me... Other people who hears it might disagree with me.. Will see this saturday :)
We should try the setting of philander sa sept 1 to check how it output the audio compare to the default windows settings or with with sis courage setup. ;) ;)
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tried the method discuss using mp3 at 320kbps with untrained ears and yes theres a lot difference.even with flacs.
nice :D
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I wonder why most of the audio enthusiast here don't use this kind of audio set-up. I am using this since 2005 and the audio out is like HD quality, even my high-end SACD/DVD-Audio players has not match to the quality of the 96/24 audio
I think madami na din sumubok pero some would prefer a dedicated stereo amplifier for 2 channel audio. Others would prefer the sonic signature of their external DAC over the AVR.
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tried the method discuss using mp3 at 320kbps with untrained ears and yes theres a lot difference.even with flacs.
nice :D
Nice to hear that. Congrats for having a good audio player without purchasing any additional device or HW.
By the way, may I know your AVR?
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I think madami na din sumubok pero some would prefer a dedicated stereo amplifier for 2 channel audio. Others would prefer the sonic signature of their external DAC over the AVR.
Ah okay, so buti na lang nandito sa HTPC ang thread na ito, for those are audio enthusiast that are fond of HTPC
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I think madami na din sumubok pero some would prefer a dedicated stereo amplifier for 2 channel audio. Others would prefer the sonic signature of their external DAC over the AVR.
for sure malayo and difference ng AVR sa Integrated AMP
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@Philander
if you connect your High END CDP to Integrated AMP for sure that CDP will be wonderful
@ Xrampage
lets try it sa Saturday
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for sure malayo and difference ng AVR sa Integrated AMP
Depende sa preference ng listener. For me, yes. :D But then of course it would also be dependent sa model ng amp section and DAC ng AVR.
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tried the method discuss using mp3 at 320kbps with untrained ears and yes theres a lot difference.even with flacs.
nice :D
Nice one brader. ;D ;D
@Philander
if you connect your High END CDP to Integrated AMP for sure that CDP will be wonderful
@ Xrampage
lets try it sa Saturday
Try talaga natin yan. ;) ;)
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Depende sa preference ng listener. For me, yes. :D But then of course it would also be dependent sa model ng amp section and DAC ng AVR.
same goes here hehehe...
if it is music...then ... :'( :'( :'(
i want to try the settings as well.
Gamit ung beats na headphone iunlock ko lang ung windows 7 na laptop dito...
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for sure malayo and difference ng AVR sa Integrated AMP
Though this is very subjective and will always depend on the brand and model and quality of the Integrated AMP, no brand and model are created equal, so saying just "Integrated AMP" will give better audio is not always true.
Some Receivers (especially mid to high end) have better DAC or audio chipset than some Integ AMPs (and vice versa).
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Main purpose here is to maximize existing system without buying any as compared to shelling out some moolah for expensive AMPs or DACs or any audio device.
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Though this is very subjective and will always depend on the brand and model and quality of the Integrated AMP, no brand and model are created equal, so saying just "Integrated AMP" will give better audio is not always true.
Some Receivers (especially mid to high end) have better DAC or audio chipset than some Integ AMPs (and vice versa).
we can create a thread if you like?
Integrated AMP/Stereo AMP/Tube AMP vs RECEIVER? in terms of music...MUSIC...
Receivers are really good with MOVIES because they were built that way but for music pwede na but not so good
Integrated AMP / SS/Tube AMp were built for MUSIC
i know its OFF TOPIC
as you can see most members have dedicated stereo because they don't use receiver for music..
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Main purpose here is to maximize existing system without buying any as compared to shelling out some moolah for expensive AMPs or DACs or any audio device.
yup....that is why we will try the option this saturday kela courage..
like bro nelson stated madami ding sumubok but ended up dedicated stereo
Quote from: Philander on Aug 27, 2012 at 01:24 PM
I wonder why most of the audio enthusiast here don't use this kind of audio set-up. I am using this since 2005 and the audio out is like HD quality, even my high-end SACD/DVD-Audio players has not match to the quality of the 96/24 audio
I think madami na din sumubok pero some would prefer a dedicated stereo amplifier for 2 channel audio. Others would prefer the sonic signature of their external DAC over the AVR.
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we can create a thread if you like?
Integrated AMP/Stereo AMP/Tube AMP vs RECEIVER? in terms of music...MUSIC...
Receivers are really good with MOVIES because they were built that way but for music pwede na but not so good
Integrated AMP / SS/Tube AMp were built for MUSIC
i know its OFF TOPIC
as you can see most members have dedicated stereo because they don't use receiver for music..
I think we already have several threads about Integrated AMP vs Receiver.
Alam naman ng karamihan na ang Tube is for Music, Integ Amp can be used sa preout ng receiver for Movies as well.
Hi-end receiver from Marantz, Rotel and even sunfire (or any flagship model) can compete with the Musicale quality of Integ Amp, yung nga lang mas mapapamahal kaysa humuha ng HIgh end Receiver vs mid end receiver plus integ amp.
Subjective din lagi. No one is pushing to use the suggested settings indicated here nor preventing the use of Integ Amp.
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I think we already have several threads about Integrated AMP vs Receiver.
Alam naman ng karamihan na ang Tube is for Music, Integ Amp can be used sa preout ng receiver for Movies as well.
May kilala ako, tube hybrid power amp (5.1) combined with marantz prepro. :D
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Nice to hear that. Congrats for having a good audio player without purchasing any additional device or HW.
By the way, may I know your AVR?
a simple pio520 ;)
iirc i already tried this tweak before with low bitrate mp3 playing with mpchc and i dont like the outcome so i opt to go back to 44khz and leave the rest that way until i tried mp3 with 320kbps and some flacs playing with foobar
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Because HDMI is a high jitter interface. It's based off DVI, with audio data included in the stream. With no dedicated lines for audio, audio data has to be encoded and decoded out of the combined data stream.
http://www.madronadigital.com/Library/DigitalAudioJitter.html :)
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I am yet to see a CD player that allows to output of 96/24 audio, moreso the 192/24 using digital output.
They are always 44.1Khz/16-bit and for DVD-Video is 48/16-bit.
For DVD Audio is 96/24
I became curious with your forum so I tried to make adjustments to my settings to be able to hear the "night and day difference" you are saying. Actually I am using a LG BD 550 player that can output audio at 192khz that will be accepted by my Denon 1909 receiver. I listened playing music for more than an hour and it really made a difference. It gives you crispy sweet and clear that surpasses my previous listening experience. I also compared it with my WDTV live 2011. Using the bluray player for this newly found settings is really a treat and it makes you spending more time with music. I do not know the audio output of WDTV, whether it is 44.1 or 96khz but it is also a good respectable listening pleasure.
With regards to some of your comments, I do not have an integrated amp and a DAC and an HTPC that has a HDMI so I could not try exactly what you want to relate. Does the above set of equipment really make a difference? Maybe someday, magkakaroon din ako.
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I became curious with your forum so I tried to make adjustments to my settings to be able to hear the "night and day difference" you are saying. Actually I am using a LG BD 550 player that can output audio at 192khz that will be accepted by my Denon 1909 receiver. I listened playing music for more than an hour and it really made a difference. It gives you crispy sweet and clear that surpasses my previous listening experience. I also compared it with my WDTV live 2011. Using the bluray player for this newly found settings is really a treat and it makes you spending more time with music. I do not know the audio output of WDTV, whether it is 44.1 or 96khz but it is also a good respectable listening pleasure.
With regards to some of your comments, I do not have an integrated amp and a DAC and an HTPC that has a HDMI so I could try exactly what you try to relate to us enthusiasts. Does the above set of equipment really make a difference? Maybe someday, magkakaroon din ako.
The BD 550 just allows you to set the maximum output sampling rate. The setting that you're referring to is not an upsampling setting, afaik.
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The BD 550 just allows you to set the maximum output sampling rate. The setting that you're referring to is not an upsampling setting, afaik.
As per him the signal was detected and processed by his receiver....
Hi gienr,
Did the receiver of yours detect the audio as 192/24?
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Sir Philander, I am not a techie so your little question if my receiver detects 192/24khz, I cannot answer you. I do not know how or where it shows on the receiver that 192/24khz. What I know is that it made a difference compared to before.
Please guide me, thanks
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As per him the signal was detected and processed by his receiver....
Hi gienr,
Did the receiver of yours detect the audio as 192/24?
My last post was 4 days ago and today, for your information, I installed a video card to my computer so I could have a HDMI out that will connect to my receiver. I also downloaded J rivers for my player and I adjusted the settings on the j rivers to output a sample frequency of 192/24 but there are some clicking sounds I hear while listening to music so I readjust to output 96/24. From time to time I am checking the output frequency and it says 96/24 (and the sound is very good, clear audio and everything good). It is really much much better than listening to plain CD music or FM radio from the receiver.
I could say that it is highly recommended to enthusiasts (for them to hear good music). That j rivers is also a very very good player, although it is only for trial up to 30 days. After expiration, how could I continue using it? With payment,ok lang sulit naman.
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My last post was 4 days ago and today, for your information, I installed a video card to my computer so I could have a HDMI out that will connect to my receiver. I also downloaded J rivers for my player and I adjusted the settings on the j rivers to output a sample frequency of 192/24 but there are some clicking sounds I hear while listening to music so I readjust to output 96/24. From time to time I am checking the output frequency and it says 96/24 (and the sound is very good, clear audio and everything good). It is really much much better than listening to plain CD music or FM radio from the receiver.
I could say that it is highly recommended to enthusiasts (for them to hear good music). That j rivers is also a very very good player, although it is only for trial up to 30 days. After expiration, how could I continue using it? With payment,ok lang sulit naman.
You can buy it using your credit card. Just go to their website..
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please help as i want to try this also.
my htpc sound settings can be configured to output 192/24, 96/24 etc, whenever i choose any of those nakikita ko naman sa receiver(hk255) nagiging 96 or 192, i just turn the "auto select" for the surround mode, kapag 192 ang pinili ko all audio is forced to be stereo, kahit yung wav file ko na 5.1 e stereo ang output sa avr, pero pag 96 pababa e logic 7 which is 5.1 sa lahat ng audio file kahit na stereo mp3.
may settings pa po ba ako nakalimutan?
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please help as i want to try this also.
my htpc sound settings can be configured to output 192/24, 96/24 etc, whenever i choose any of those nakikita ko naman sa receiver(hk255) nagiging 96 or 192, i just turn the "auto select" for the surround mode, kapag 192 ang pinili ko all audio is forced to be stereo, kahit yung wav file ko na 5.1 e stereo ang output sa avr, pero pag 96 pababa e logic 7 which is 5.1 sa lahat ng audio file kahit na stereo mp3.
may settings pa po ba ako nakalimutan?
Limitation yan ng 192/24-bit, stereo lang talaga
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Limitation yan ng 192/24-bit, stereo lang talaga
wow, thanks for that info, though mas gusto ko talaga stereo kaya mina-manual ko pa pag change ng speaker setup dati except for that 5.1 wav file, hanap na lang ako flac equivalent nya
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Hello po... Nag download ako ng 1 FLAC file (The Eagles - Hotel California). It's a 126MB file then 96Khz, 24-bit... I played it in VLC (PC-HDMI connection) pero bakit napaka hina ng sound?
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Limitation yan ng 192/24-bit, stereo lang talaga
Dependent siya sa support nung source at receiver. Hindi lahat may support for multichannel 24/192.
Madalas even dun sa may support, namamatay yung processing kapag 24/192 or higher.
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Sir Stagea, out of the topic ba ang utilization ng DAC dito? O lalong mas OK?
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Sir Stagea, out of the topic ba ang utilization ng DAC dito? O lalong mas OK?
Lahat po ng digital input at analog out eh digital to analogue conversion, so in effect DAC din ang usapan nila.
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Thanks Sir Stagea
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Before I always use NMT as my music source as most of my files are flac and lossless wavs. Then I shifted to PS3 since I can use 24/96 output but it cant play flac. Now its laptop-hdmi-avr. VLC-HDMI-Marantz(pure direct, 24/96) in particular. Can there still be improvement here without adding high cost, like avoiding the "noisy" HDMI?
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Before I always use NMT as my music source as most of my files are flac and lossless wavs. Then I shifted to PS3 since I can use 24/96 output but it cant play flac. Now its laptop-hdmi-avr. VLC-HDMI-Marantz(pure direct, 24/96) in particular. Can there still be improvement here without adding high cost, like avoiding the "noisy" HDMI?
try mo ung VDAC II brader...ty
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Before I always use NMT as my music source as most of my files are flac and lossless wavs. Then I shifted to PS3 since I can use 24/96 output but it cant play flac. Now its laptop-hdmi-avr. VLC-HDMI-Marantz(pure direct, 24/96) in particular. Can there still be improvement here without adding high cost, like avoiding the "noisy" HDMI?
You can also try Musiland. It's 24/192 capable.
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i tried this set-up...
laptop ------->HDMI cable-------> Receiver------->HDMI cable------->HDTV..i can play audio/music
on this set-up but it really requires me to turn my tv ON...Can the HDMI port on my laptop be connected straight to a receiver for audio only without turning the TV ON? it won't play po kasi pag ni oFF yung TV...
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i tried this set-up...
laptop ------->HDMI cable-------> Receiver------->HDMI cable------->HDTV..i can play audio/music
on this set-up but it really requires me to turn my tv ON...Can the HDMI port on my laptop be connected straight to a receiver for audio only without turning the TV ON? it won't play po kasi pag ni oFF yung TV...
At your laptop... try mo setting mo sa display mo as Extended or Clone.. di ba may option ka dun to choose when you connected your HDMI kung sa projector, extended, clone etc... Try mo yan para kahit patayin mo yung TV mo may display pa din sa laptop mo and just choose your HDMI as your default output of sound..
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At your laptop... try mo setting mo sa display mo as Extended or Clone.. di ba may option ka dun to choose when you connected your HDMI kung sa projector, extended, clone etc... Try mo yan para kahit patayin mo yung TV mo may display pa din sa laptop mo and just choose your HDMI as your default output of sound..
thank you sir, yes, ginawa ko na po pareho kaso pag ni off ko na po yung tv nawawala din po yung audio signal...nakakawindang. am i missing something?
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thank you sir, yes, ginawa ko na po pareho kaso pag ni off ko na po yung tv nawawala din po yung audio signal...nakakawindang. am i missing something?
Anong OS mo sir?
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Anong OS mo sir?
windows 7 po sir...
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windows 7 po sir...
Hmmm .. kasi ako pag music lang sa laptop ko before...hindi kelangan bukas ang TV para tumunog sa AVR via HDMI...
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windows 7 po sir...
Bro try this.
Pag connected na yung Laptop mo sa Receiver via HDMI dont switch display. Right click on the speaker icon on your taskbar sa far left side then choose playback devices. Since your receiver is on it should detect your receiver as one of the Audio output devices. Choose that as your default playback output device and try playing again a music. What player are you using?