It's possible that the speakers go as high as 16-32. And it is recommended (at least by the audioholics guys) to set the avr's impedance to 8 ohms for better dynamics, fidelity, etc.
galing pala ng audioholics ano? ayon sa kanila parang lumalabas nilagay lang ng yamaha yung switch for UL requirement...
Editorial Note about the Impedance Selector Switch
"I recommend the "Minimum 8-ohms" setting even for 4-ohm speakers of moderate efficiency (>89dB SPL). Yamaha includes a" 6-ohm" setting to satisfy UL heat dissipation requirements when driving 4-ohm loads, as well as easing consumer concerns about driving low impedance loads. These switches step down voltage feed to the power sections which can limit dynamics and overall fidelity. My advice is to keep the switch set to "Minimum 8-ohms" regardless of the impedance of your speakers and ensure proper ventilation of the Receiver. To illustrate this point further, I have tabulated my measured differences between the 8-ohm and 6-ohm setting for driving 8-ohm and 4-ohm loads.
8 Ohm Setting
134wpc into an 8-ohm load @ 0.1% THD
210wpc into a 4-ohm load @ 0.1% THD
6 Ohm Setting
95wpc into an 8-ohm load @ 0.1% THD
180wpc into a 4-ohm load @ 0.1% THD
"
galing ng audiholics ano? dapat ciguro magusap ang audioholics at ang yamaha to avoid confusion sa mga end user ng product nila, iba kasi pagkakaintindi ko rito (cant compare with professional amp though) all the while kala ko yung switch na yun is to prevent the damage. yun pala for UL purposes lang "heat dissipation", after which kung susundin mo itong instruction nila (see photo below) will limit the dyamics and overall fidelity.
thanks sir guru bumblebee... naliwanagan na po ako "ALIEN!" "ALIEN!"...
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00064.jpg)
hindi ako masyado na convince ng audioholics so I made my own testing using an analog DON - NSF temp reader and measured the heat dissipation of the Yamaha amp and heres my actual reading...
impedance switch set to:
8 ohms - heat measurement 93 deg F.
4 ohms - heat measurement 90 deg F.
setting on 9'oclock volume pot and tone bypass, using 6 ohms speakers (2 towers, 1 center, 2 surrounds) 4 hours of HT and music (2 hours on each impedance switch setting with one hour interval).
based on my expirience on audio gears the cooler the amp the better it will produce audio freq. and when on operation, speaker impedance loads will be variable lower.
There should be no difference at all at this setting, if you use the same speaker. The issue of imp switch will only become evident if you hit the full rating capability of the amp, more so if you overdrive them. Using a 6ohm speaker and overdrive your amp, at impedance setting of 8 ohms will fry your amp :o. At impedance setting of 4 ohm, will fry your speaker ;D ;D . Yamaha wanted to fry your speaker first, and not their amp. So which one do you love best? ;D ;D ;D
"kung rakrakan lang naman ang gamit ng AVR, better to switch it to recommended impedance load. For a typical audiophile ??? ;D listening, leave imp switch untouched.
With inefficient speakers, the like of Dai ichi at 86dB
Tama pala si qguy about "John" of Dai-ichi megamall. if you dont have any idea on speakers please dont ask this guy, I had a wrong impression on him, yung product knowledge niya about speakers dont just extend there kahit sa amp ay "NO-NO" rin pala siya.
qguy had a difficult time with him when asking about magnetic shielding of speakers. he replied qguy... "rubber lang ang ginagamit nila for magnetic shielding" and again asked by qguy about using a 8" woofer for center again he replied... "sino gumagamit ng 8" sa center ngo ngo yun" and so goes the story of "John" of Dai-ichi megamall. for some other reasons (sales) I defended him and telling guys to give him a break and be friend with him, but guess what? Now! im pulling out my support on him (but not Dai-ichi products) only Mr. John...
My reason? this is why...
been there recently and asked John...
"John diba nasa 6 ohms ang rating ng Euros 8?" he then replied "yes boss" I told him "ano bang ginagamit mong impedance switch ng yamaha AVR nyo" he then replied "8 ohms min sir" I told him "bakit 8 ohms min ang gamitin mo, diba dapat 6 ohms min, hindi ba burden sa Yamaha avr yung 8ohms min setting then feeding it with 6 ohms towers paano kung nasa operation na yung AVR diba variable na yun operation hindi ba masisira yung yamaha?" he then replied "sir kasi mabubugbog yung speakers namin lalo pag araw araw ginagamit kasi tumataas yung impedance nang speakers pag ginagamit, umaabot ng 16 to 32ohms yun pag tumutunog na" then I was surprised and replied "ha? ganun ba tumataas ba hanggang 16 to 32ohms yung 6 ohms kaya sineset nyo yung avr ng 8ohms min?" he then replied with proud accent "yes sir!"...
and so goes on with the story of John...
pag labas ko ng showroom, natawa tuloy ako at i-iling-iling... :D ::)
Acoustic Energy Aegis 1's (nominal 8 Ohm) impedance curve according to Stereophile.
(http://stereophile.com/images/archivesart/aegfig1.jpg)
Wharfedale 9.1's (nominal 6 Ohm) impedance curve according to Stereophile.
(http://stereophile.com/images/archivesart/WharfW91FIG1.jpg)
Epos M5's (nominal 4 Ohm) impedance curve according to Stereophile.
(http://stereophile.com/images/archivesart/epEM5FIG1.jpg)
if this graphs shows the impedance curve of the following speakers, is this rated 1w/1m? just asking :D
Mababago ba curve kung iba w/m?
I thought we're discussing impedance vs frequency?
yup see the 50hz setting, mostly 2-5ohms on electrical phase (+/-300).
The first graph is ok. I asked if the impedance curve changes if you change w/m. Then you showed 2 graphs w/o impedance.
Anyway, our graphs show that impedance varies w/ freq. So agree ka na Daiichis could go as high as 16-32?
...
at least healthy discussion pa rin tayo, thanks! sir bumblebee... ;D
Mababago ba curve kung iba w/m?
Sir, so its best to use the 4 ohms impedance switch? rather than the 8ohms, when using a 6 ohms speaker load. much secured if the amp is cooler.
so sir according to you kung pang "audiophile listening" is much better to leave the switch untouch (case of yamaha 8ohms setting) kahit ano pang load ng speakers ang gamitin mo,.... then pag bugbugan naman its better to follow the manufacturers recommended impedance load? ??? ....
hindi ba burden on both end yun (speakers and AVR) ? meron bang noticable difference on over-all audible performance pag nag toggle ka sa impedance switch for what is best for both gears (speakers and AVR)? katulad ng sinasabi ng audioholics na nababawasan daw ang dynamics and overall fidelity.
so tama ba si Mr. John o hindi? ::)
Sir oweidaw,
mukha nga mas marurunong pa tong mga nag sasabi about sa impedance switch mukhang mas may alam mismo kaysa sa yamaha, isipin mo naka indicate na ang instruction ng manufacturer for safer use, pero para sa kanila best pa rin yung nirerecommend nila. tigas ng ulo hehehe!
Sir AHobbit, just wanna know kung what model you're referring to. Please enlighten me. The Daiichi speaker that I have or have seen which has the least sensitivity is the Euros 8 which is rated at 88 dB. Thank you sir. Have a nice day. :)
for most yamaha receivers leaving the switch at 8 ohms should sound better as long as you dont push it too its limit. Its an option, but if you want to protect your gears, choose the safest setting, the sound difference might not be worth your peace of mind. Or better yet just get 8 ohm speakers ;D
Mababago ba curve kung iba w/m?
nope not yet the graph i showed you are just a followup on the tested 50hz setting using a 1w/1m.
maybe upto 25ohms pde pa ako maniwala for a typical mas market speakers like dai-ichi but not 32ohms...
like this limestone speakers...
The impedance varies from 5.5 Ohms to 25 Ohms, and electrical phase never strays beyond 45deg. The impedance valley at 80 Hz represents the tuning frequency. These would be an easy speaker for mass market receivers to drive.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/me-limestone-speaker-impedance-phas.gif)
Sir, dami sinabi no John eh. ...rubber ... ngongo ... impedance
Yung rubber ... medyo iniisip ko pa ... bakit ???
Yung ngongo, medyo tama siya - pag woofer nga lang yung center mo, ngongo talaga yon. Pag mid-woofer, baka medyo ngongo na lang. ;D ;D . Pag sinamahan mo ng tweeter, beauty na!!! ;D ;D Minsan kasi pag mali tanong, mali din ang sagot eh.
Impedance increase .. medyo .. tama kung oo ... medyo mali kung halos nadoble o triple na ang impedance ... wala ako oras aksayahin i quantify ang claims.
regards
hey aHobbit,
I'm just joking, medyo malabo nga yata yan tao na yan. Si hanns ang may kasalanan niyan eh, sinabi na nga sa kabila na tagilid magsasagot si John eh bigla sabi ni hanns hindi basta kaibiganin mo lang. ;D ;D ;D
regards
PS: hanns, I'm just joking ha. hehehe
Sir, dami sinabi no John eh. ...rubber ... ngongo ... impedance
Yung rubber ... medyo iniisip ko pa ... bakit ???
I guess nakita siya ng bukas na center channel na speaker na may rubber na covering that is used to cover the metal or cancellation magnet installed at the back of the driver "ah rubber lang pala eh"
Yung ngongo, medyo tama siya - pag woofer nga lang yung center mo, ngongo talaga yon. Pag mid-woofer, baka medyo ngongo na lang. ;D ;D . Pag sinamahan mo ng tweeter, beauty na!!! ;D ;D Minsan kasi pag mali tanong, mali din ang sagot eh.
true pag woofer lang ngongo kaso I told him "ay sorry lalagyan ko rin tweeter" sagot ng arrogante na John "ngo ngo pa rin yun"... in effect lahat ng two way na speaker na may 8 inch woofer with tweeter ay ngongo
Impedance increase .. medyo .. tama kung oo ... medyo mali kung halos nadoble o triple na ang impedance ... wala ako oras aksayahin i quantify ang claims.
regards
Ayaw ko na ng dai ichi.. madami palang impedance ek ek at frequency achuchu tong mga speakers na ito eh ;D
Just kidding.. I also have a 9.5 towers... pang surround ko dati sa bedroom and now ginawang fronts dahil pi null out o yung JBL foor standers for an audio set up.
In fairness, ok naman yung tunong nung 9.5 slim towers eh. I'm wondering if i can still tweal it by changing the crossover network....hmmmmm
Peace :-*
Ulit ko lang yung question ko. Maybe someone can help...
Among all of the floorstanding speakers posted on the first page, which one is the best for purely audio listening? And how much are these speakers? Thanks!
I wish somebody from dai-ichi can read all the posts here. ;D
We have a member here that works at Daiichi Sales. Di na nga lang sya gaanong active. Maybe I should contact him. ???
Ulit ko lang yung question ko. Maybe someone can help...
Among all of the floorstanding speakers posted on the first page, which one is the best for purely audio listening? And how much are these speakers? Thanks!
If I recall correctly, 5k/pair for the biggest towers (Euros 8 ) in Megamall. The PL sounded nice nga w/ AMX tubes.
So everybody will have his day in court -- ;D
tama ba basa ko dito sa price?
yan talaga ang pamatay ng dai-ichi - yun price! pero di muna ako bbili ng Euros 8, antayin ko baka magkaroon up to Euros 12 o mas mataas pa para matured na yun technology. ;D ;D ;D
So everybody will have his day in court -- ;D
I got mine for around 5.3K. Grabe ka bro, some of us already feel the Euros 8 is overkill, tapos Euros 12 pa? grabe. ;D ;D ;D
I guess all it take is for one of us to call Daiichi Showrooms. As they say, "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.." ;)
sa Tears Of The Sun ko nabasa yan, forgot who quoted it.
pero tayo yun "good men" diba tapos si john yun "Evil", tama dba?
joke! joke!
Actually its sometimes fun to ask questions to salesman who has no idea of what he is talking about, but I really get pissed if the salesman is arrogante
hey aHobbit,
I'm just joking, medyo malabo nga yata yan tao na yan. Si hanns ang may kasalanan niyan eh, sinabi na nga sa kabila na tagilid magsasagot si John eh bigla sabi ni hanns hindi basta kaibiganin mo lang. ;D ;D ;D
regards
PS: hanns, I'm just joking ha. hehehe
Sarap pakinggan no? Good men tayo, hehe. ;D
With John, I think it's bad enough being ignorant, but why does he have to let the whole world know? ::)
Sir ... kanya kanya kasi tayo ng taste eh ... baka na-type-an ni hanns ... ahahay !!! ;D ;D ;D
sa Tears Of The Sun ko nabasa yan, forgot who quoted it.
pero tayo yun "good men" diba tapos si john yun "Evil", tama dba?
joke! joke!
Sir ... kanya kanya kasi tayo ng taste eh ... baka na-type-an ni hanns ... ahahay !!! ;D ;D ;D
patay tayo diyan... hahaha!
hanns... ikaw ha, may lihim ka pala! :o
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Sarap pakinggan no? Good men tayo, hehe. ;D
With John, I think it's bad enough being ignorant, but why does he have to let the whole world know? ::)
I guess all it take is for one of us to call Daiichi Showrooms. As they say, "Evil triumphs when good men do nothing.." ;)
It was a customer who made the whole world know. ;D
The way qquy sounded in his post, it wasn't so much his ignorance that was unnerving. It was his arrogance at his misinformation. ;D
Anyway, does Dai-ichi still paste their impedance curve at the back of their speakers? I know I had them in mine back in 1982. I prefer having this curve either on their manual or at the back of the speakers. It's a more complete specification of impedance than merely stating NOMINAL impedance.
Dai-1chi is not equipped with an-mail address. their bad... ;D
mukha nga mas marurunong pa tong mga nag sasabi about sa impedance switch mukhang mas may alam mismo kaysa sa yamaha, isipin mo naka indicate na ang instruction ng manufacturer for safer use, pero para sa kanila best pa rin yung nirerecommend nila. tigas ng ulo hehehe!
Sir ... kanya kanya kasi tayo ng taste eh ... baka na-type-an ni hanns ... ahahay !!! ;D ;D ;D
Achenngg! Type ko si John, type ko batukan hehehe! Pero papa aHobbit ikaw talga type ko bwahahahar! (Joke) ;D ;D ;Dbwahaha nice one sir you've been a bad man ;D ;D ;D
Anak ng P%*&@!!! Talga yan John na yan oh! Sabi nya dati magtataas yung Euros 8 ng 9k kaya discounted na 7k na pagkakabili ko, isipin mo 5,3K nalang ngayon tsk! Isa pa sa kina bwiset ko kay dyan John, eh and yabang magsasasagot, parang feeling mo pag pumunta ka sa showroom ng Dai-ichi eh hindi kayang bilihin yung speakers, parang sa BOSE titignan ka mula ulo hanggang paa, one time nga inasar ko nga yung mga salesperson sa BOSE (mega), pumunta ako dun naka sando at shorts, kunwari titingin tingin lang ako, hanep yung manager dun maka tingin parang kala mo nag auaudition ka sa starstruck kung tumingin, nag tanong lang ako kung magkano yung AM5III sabi niya 25THOUSAND! Sabi ko nga pa order nga isa ;D , napa titig siya sa akin eh. Tinanong ako kung card daw sabi ko CASH! 25K ko babayaran ;D . Ayun nataranta binigyan ako ng discount 5% sabi san taxi daw ihahatid sabi ko sa auto ko sa 3rd floor car park A. sabi ko siya ang gusto ko mag hatid ayun tulo pawis niya eh hehehe! Oops OT sori po mods.
:D ;D
Ulit ko lang yung question ko. Maybe someone can help...
Among all of the floorstanding speakers posted on the first page, which one is the best for purely audio listening? And how much are these speakers? Thanks!
bwahaha nice one sir you've been a bad man ;D ;D ;D
hi,
do you have the price list of euros series?
euros 8 ?
hanns,
pambihirang Dai-ichi yan kinopya yun design ko oh, kamukha nun dtx mo! ;D
(http://www.filehigh.com/serve/13381/151070.jpg)
harharhar! ;D ;D ;D
Guys here are some dai-ichi speakers that I personaly auditioned when I was hunting for a speakers system. hope this help you guys...
EFD speakers - best of all dai-ichi speakers but a bit pricey. clarity and power are achive by dai-ichi with these speakers.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/EFDspeakers.gif)
Euros 8 & 6 - fairly priced good performance speaker.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/euros6_a.gif)
Pregnant series. For HT use, unbeatable bang for the buck!
Euros 5 - not yet available, so medyo exempted to.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/euros5a.gif)
PL - medyo bitin nga lang ang subwoofer nito. pero ganda ng tunog nung tower when paired with amx tube na auditioned ko to sa phasetron, park square 1, makati.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/pl20100_a.gif)
DTX 4.xx series subwoofers - good for any kind of room, tight followed by a soft bass.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC00058.jpg)
DTX 6.xx series subwoofers - good for any kind of room, but tend to become muffled when drived at high SPL.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/dtx610_a.gif)
BP series subwoofer - powerful and big, but then again due to its design (back ported bandpass), tend to become boomy when cornered.
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/bp100_a.gif)
~ JOHN OF THE DAI-ICHI MEGAMALL ~
Tama pala si qguy about "John" of Dai-ichi megamall. if you dont have any idea on speakers please dont ask this guy, I had a wrong impression on him, yung product knowledge niya about speakers dont just extend there kahit sa amp ay "NO-NO" rin pala siya.
qguy had a difficult time with him when asking about magnetic shielding of speakers. he replied qguy... "rubber lang ang ginagamit nila for magnetic shielding" and again asked by qguy about using a 8" woofer for center again he replied... "sino gumagamit ng 8" sa center ngo ngo yun" and so goes the story of "John" of Dai-ichi megamall. for some other reasons (sales) I defended him and telling guys to give him a break and be friend with him, but guess what? Now! im pulling out my support on him (but not Dai-ichi products) only Mr. John...
My reason? this is why...
been there recently and asked John...
"John diba nasa 6 ohms ang rating ng Euros 8?" he then replied "yes boss" I told him "ano bang ginagamit mong impedance switch ng yamaha AVR nyo" he then replied "8 ohms min sir" I told him "bakit 8 ohms min ang gamitin mo, diba dapat 6 ohms min, hindi ba burden sa Yamaha avr yung 8ohms min setting then feeding it with 6 ohms towers paano kung nasa operation na yung AVR diba variable na yun operation hindi ba masisira yung yamaha?" he then replied "sir kasi mabubugbog yung speakers namin lalo pag araw araw ginagamit kasi tumataas yung impedance nang speakers pag ginagamit, umaabot ng 16 to 32ohms yun pag tumutunog na" then I was surprised and replied "ha? ganun ba tumataas ba hanggang 16 to 32ohms yung 6 ohms kaya sineset nyo yung avr ng 8ohms min?" he then replied with proud accent "yes sir!"...
and so goes on with the story of John...
pag labas ko ng showroom, natawa tuloy ako at i-iling-iling... :D ::)
Achenngg! Type ko si John, type ko batukan hehehe! Pero papa aHobbit ikaw talga type ko bwahahahar! (Joke) ;D ;D ;D
Anak ng P%*&@!!! Talga yan John na yan oh! Sabi nya dati magtataas yung Euros 8 ng 9k kaya discounted na 7k na pagkakabili ko, isipin mo 5,3K nalang ngayon tsk! Isa pa sa kina bwiset ko kay dyan John, eh and yabang magsasasagot, parang feeling mo pag pumunta ka sa showroom ng Dai-ichi eh hindi kayang bilihin yung speakers, parang sa BOSE titignan ka mula ulo hanggang paa, one time nga inasar ko nga yung mga salesperson sa BOSE (mega), pumunta ako dun naka sando at shorts, kunwari titingin tingin lang ako, hanep yung manager dun maka tingin parang kala mo nag auaudition ka sa starstruck kung tumingin, nag tanong lang ako kung magkano yung AM5III sabi niya 25THOUSAND! Sabi ko nga pa order nga isa ;D , napa titig siya sa akin eh. Tinanong ako kung card daw sabi ko CASH! 25K ko babayaran ;D . Ayun nataranta binigyan ako ng discount 5% sabi san taxi daw ihahatid sabi ko sa auto ko sa 3rd floor car park A. sabi ko siya ang gusto ko mag hatid ayun tulo pawis niya eh hehehe! Oops OT sori po mods.
:D ;D
uyy!!! sir jojo
anong model to? hindi ko na audition to ah? :o
kamukha nga ng DTX 4.xx series...
oy oy email mo yun link dito dun sa email add na binigay ni LAWIN para makita ng management ng dai-ichi yun kalokohan nun isang staff nila sa mega. :o
You made the object of your contempt richer from his sales commission. ;D
model ko yan oist, ako lang gumawa niyan. :P
oy oy email mo yun link dito dun sa email add na binigay ni LAWIN para makita ng management ng dai-ichi yun kalokohan nun isang staff nila sa mega. :o
ok guys believed hanns! he's the expert pero 'di nya kayang magbigay sa inyo ng discounts! he!he! one thing more, if you want to buy dai-ichi speakers just let me know that you are a forum member of pinoydvd.com so we can arrange a special discounts.
ingat na lang guys!
sirs john-bashers, :)
dapat gumawa kayo ng affidavit na collaborated by witnesses para isubmit sa daiichi mgt.
madali lusutan pag walang formal complaint at witnesses.
baka pag confront ng bossing: o john, ano masasabi mo sa mga (verbally) nagrereklamo?
....eh bossing sales strat. lang p0 yun, the end justified the means....bumili naman p0 sila.
ah eh ganun ba? ...congrats, you are promoted! ;D
btw, sir hanns1976...kamusta na ang crusade mo vs. "pier boys" ? good luck! :)
The way qquy sounded in his post, it wasn't so much his ignorance that was unnerving. It was his arrogance at his misinformation. ;D
bossing: o john, ano masasabi mo sa mga (verbally) nagrereklamo?
john:....eh bossing sales strat. lang p0 yun, the end justified the means....bumili naman p0 sila.
bossing: ah eh ganun ba? ...congrats, you are promoted! ;D
Sir whats the specs of the spf 25?
Called Audible Illusions
its 6000 PHP
Cabinet is made of Plastic
Called Audible Illusions
its 6000 PHP
Cabinet is made of Plastic
Mga sir me nakapag audition na ba sa inyo nitong x3? eto review nya sa net http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_3/bohlender-graebener-radia-x3-speakers-8-2001.html
Specifications:
Drivers: One 3" Ribbon Tweeter, One 5 1/2" Aluminum Cone Mid-Range/Woofer, One 5 1/2" Aluminum Cone Woofer
MFR: 40 Hz - 30 kHz
Nominal Impedance: 4 Ohms
Power Handling: 150 Watts
Sensitivity: 93 dB/2.83 Volt/1 Meter
Size: 40" H x 7 3/4" W x 9 1/2" D
Weight: 35 Pounds Each
MSRP: $2,050/Pair USA
Hindi nga lang kami pinayagang mag demo nakabox pa eh. dadalhin daw sa cebu. price is 20k. Sayang ayaw ipademo unless bibili na daw. Gusto ko pa namang marinig. Kasi last week bumili brother ko ng euro 6 sa dai-ichi.
Mga sir me nakapag audition na ba sa inyo nitong x3? eto review nya sa net http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_3/bohlender-graebener-radia-x3-speakers-8-2001.html
Specifications:
Drivers: One 3" Ribbon Tweeter, One 5 1/2" Aluminum Cone Mid-Range/Woofer, One 5 1/2" Aluminum Cone Woofer
MFR: 40 Hz - 30 kHz
Nominal Impedance: 4 Ohms
Power Handling: 150 Watts
Sensitivity: 93 dB/2.83 Volt/1 Meter
Size: 40" H x 7 3/4" W x 9 1/2" D
Weight: 35 Pounds Each
MSRP: $2,050/Pair USA
Hindi nga lang kami pinayagang mag demo nakabox pa eh. dadalhin daw sa cebu. price is 20k. Sayang ayaw ipademo unless bibili na daw. Gusto ko pa namang marinig. Kasi last week bumili brother ko ng euro 6 sa dai-ichi.
Ito yung ipinakita sa amin ni Brian ng Dai-ichi megamall. Pero pagkasabi sa akin, 10k lang (siguro pag group buy), or probably he meant per piece. They make this, and sell only on orders kapag binili mo from here. They dont put it in display (baka agreement with the contracting US company).
another group buy in the making? ::)
;D ;D ;D
Mga sir me nakapag audition na ba sa inyo nitong x3? eto review nya sa net http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_3/bohlender-graebener-radia-x3-speakers-8-2001.html
Specifications:
Drivers: One 3" Ribbon Tweeter, One 5 1/2" Aluminum Cone Mid-Range/Woofer, One 5 1/2" Aluminum Cone Woofer
MFR: 40 Hz - 30 kHz
Nominal Impedance: 4 Ohms
Power Handling: 150 Watts
Sensitivity: 93 dB/2.83 Volt/1 Meter
Size: 40" H x 7 3/4" W x 9 1/2" D
Weight: 35 Pounds Each
MSRP: $2,050/Pair USA
Hindi nga lang kami pinayagang mag demo nakabox pa eh. dadalhin daw sa cebu. price is 20k. Sayang ayaw ipademo unless bibili na daw. Gusto ko pa namang marinig. Kasi last week bumili brother ko ng euro 6 sa dai-ichi.
hehe, tagal na to pala thread na toh pero up ko lang.
i have a month old euros-6 floor stander. i had the caps of the x-overs modified with mundorf m-caps (courtesy of audioamplified).
their so good. treble/extreme highs are much refined that the original polypropylenes installed on the euros x-over. anyway, when i first bought the units, medyo may crackilng sound dun sa isang unit (extreme highs), which i ignored because i thought it was the potentiometer ng treble that needs to be cleaned/replaced on my amp which crackles pag pinipihit. after having the x-overs "mundorfED", the crackling on the other tweeter became obvious. i called up Dai Mega and spoke to john. he told me just to bring the tweeter.
about john. mabait naman yung tao eh. nagpunta ako kanina sa dai-ichi mega, he tested the dead tweeter---well usually for dai-ichi, the accept the driver unit and antay kay for ilang araw sa service / replacement. John was awesome, he replaced my dead tweeter on the spot with a new one! yahoo! kudos to John for an excellent service. kaibiganin nio nalang. ang balita ko pa mgkakaroon ulit ng mga X1 (x3 di pa daw sigurado)
nga pala, madami sale sa kanila ngayun! meron floorstanders dun na US Audio, 2x6" na woofer and a dome tweeter, sa likod ang sensitivity is 86db. they sound jazzy to me, but those units are a steal for 5,500! tweak nalang yung x-overs! pati mga bookshelf na mukhang infinity sale 3k lang!
@pabiliYou may be interested in these subwoofers:
naku sir pabili pano yung group buy natin ng JBL GTO1502D!? whehehe!