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DVD Forum => DVD-ROM & DVD Backup => Topic started by: firewired on Aug 01, 2004 at 10:27 AM
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You need to download DVDInfoPro (http://www.dvdinfopro.com) for reading the DVD-R's media code. Additionally, you can use the software to test for drive speed and possible media errors.
If you want to cross-reference your findings with other users, visit VideoHelp.com (http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia). They run a fairly comprehensive database of branded and generic media ratings. Please note that even if certain DVD-Rs have the same brand/make, chances are you're testing discs from different batches so results may vary greatly from country to country.
In reporting media performance, please state the following:
1. Media code
2. Physical description of the disc
3. Place of purchase
4. Price per piece
5. Claimed burn speed and the speed you burned at
6. DVDInfoPro media test for read errors
7. Test platforms (DVD-ROM and standalone players)
8. Notes (if any)
That's it!
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Generic DVD-R: Fornex
1. Fornex101
2. Blank (no label), writable white top. Identified as DVD-R 4X F101A along inner ring.
3. CD-R King Gilmore
4. Php11.00 per piece
5. Rated at 4x, burned at 1x
6. No errors on DVDInfoPro
7. Successful playback on:
- Pioneer DVD Writer A04 (media verified)
- Pioneer DV-266 (full film viewed, no skipping and/or macro-blocking errors)
8. Notes: I burned at 1x after previous experience with other generic DVD-Rs resulted in multiple errors at 2x (despite the media being rated at 4x). Out of 15 DVD-R backups burned (so far), I've only had one coaster. Hope it stays that way.
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BRANDED DVD-R: RIDATA 4X
1. RITEKG04
2. Purple cover with writable surface
3. CD-R King Taft
4. Bought at Php38.00 per piece. Price now is Php 39.00 per piece. Currenly OUT-OF-STOCK for over a month already.
5. Rated at 4x, burned at 2x since my PC is too slow.
6. NO errors on DVDInfoPro
7. Successful playback on:
* Access of files (.doc and .jpg) worked on LITE-ON and Hitachi dvd-roms.
8. Notes: Burned using NERO Burning ROM with DVD ISO for better compatibility
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MEDIA MASTER DVD-R
Media Code: PRODISCG01
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/473L0026.jpg) (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/MediaMaster.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-R King Quiapo
Price per piece: P99.00/disc (before)
Claimed Burned Speed: 2x
Burned speed: 1x
Media Test for Errors: No errors (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104)
Test platforms:
No problem with DVD ROM
No problem with Nextbase DVD Player
No problem with Sony DVD player
RIDATA DVD-R
Media Code: RITEKG04
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/Ridata.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-R King Glorietta branch
Price per piece: P35.00/disc
Claimed Burned Speed: 4x
Burned speed: 1x
Errors: No errors (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104)
Test Platforms:
No problem with DVD ROM
NO problem with Nextbase DVD Player
No problem with Sony DVD Player
VERTEX DVD-R
Media Code: Auvistar
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/473L0035.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-R King Glorietta
Price per piece: P 21.00
Claimed burned speed: 4x
Burned speed: 1x
Media Test for errors: No errors (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104)
Test Platforms:
No problem on DVD-ROM (LG and Pioneer)
Skipping problems on NextBase DVD Player
Skipping problems on Sony DVD Player
PRO DVD-R
Media Code: PRODISCG01 (same media code with Media Master)
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/PRODVD.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-R King Glorietta
Price per disc: P35.00/disc (before)
Claimed burned speed: 1x
burned speed: 1x
Media Test for errors: Multiple errors (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104)
Test platforms:
No problem on DVD ROM
Skipping/jittery output on Nextbase
Sony DVD Player won't detect the disc
Generic DVD-R (NO BRAND Listed)
Media Code: RITEKGO3
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/Generic2.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-R King Glorietta
Price per piece: P21.00/disc
Claimed Burning Speed: 1x
Burned speed: 1x
Media Test for Errors: No errors (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104)
Test Platforms:
No problem on DVD ROM (Pioneer and LG)
Skipping problems on Nextbase DVD Player towards the end
Will not play on Sony DVD Player
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Generic DVD-R (Brand not Listed)
Media Code: MXL RG01
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/Generic3.jpg)
Place of purchase: CD-R King Glorietta
Price per disc: P11 or P10 (not sure)
Claimed Burning Speed: 2x
Burned Speed: 2x
Media Test for errors: Multiple errors when burning at 2x. (No errors when using 1x burning speed)
Test Platforms:
No problem on DVD ROM
Skipping problems on Sony and Nextbase DVD Player (towards the end of the video)
Generic DVD-R (Brand Not listed)
Media Code: Blank
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/473L0031.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-R King Glorietta
Price per piece: P11.00
Claimed Burning Speed: 2x
Burned speed: 1x
Media Test for Errors: No errors (Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-104)
Test Platforms:
No problem on DVD ROM (Pioneer and LG)
Skipping problems on Nextbase DVD Player and Sony DVD Player
GENERIC 4X DVD-R
Media Code: RITEKG04
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/473L0034.jpg)
Place of purchase: Virra mall (it's the store in front of Comic Alley)
Price per piece: P 85.00
Claimed burning speed: 4x
Burned speed: 2x
Media Test for errors: No errors
Test Platforms:
No problem on DVD-ROM
No problem on Nextbase DVD player
No problem on Sony DVD Player
MELODY 4X DVD-R
Media Code: AN31
Physical Description:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/alekxxz/473L0032.jpg)
Place of Purchase: CD-Square (SM Southmall)
Price per piece: P175.00
Claimed Burning Speed: 4x
Burned Speed: 2x
Media Test for errors: No errors
Test platporms:
No problem on DVD ROM and standalone DVD Players.
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Generic DVD-R: ENZO
1. FNX 102 (Fornex)
2. Blank (no label), inkjet printable white top. Identified as DVD-R 4X F102 along inner ring.
3. CD-R King Gilmore
4. Php11.00 per piece
5. Rated at 4x, burned at 2x
6. No errors on DVDInfoPro and Nero 6
7. Successful playback on:
- Pioneer DVD Writer A04 (media verified)
- Pioneer DV-266
8. Notes: Used less than HALF the space, so I don't know if the quality holds up until the edge of the disc. Enzo DVD-Rs come packaged in those neat 25-disc cake boxes.
UPDATE & WARNING: I do NOT recommend the ENZO generics. You cannot fill-up the disc. I tested a full backup at 4.38 GB and there were multiple errors towards the outer part of the disc even when burning at 1x. The only practical advantage of this brand is the printable top.
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Generic DVD-R: CD-R KING
1. Fornex101
2. Black label with white, rectangle pattern as design (ala film). DVD-R 4X F101A along inner ring.
3. CD-R King Gilmore
4. Php11.00 per piece
5. Rated at 4x, burned at 2x
6. No errors on DVDInfoPro and Nero 6
7. Successful playback on:
- Pioneer DVD Writer A04 (media verified)
- Pioneer DV-266 (full film viewed, no skipping and/or macro-blocking errors)
8. Notes: After my bad experience with the Fornex FNX102 line, I reverted back to the F101A series for my non-critical internal backups. Burning at 2x, I didn't experience any problems. So far, so good.
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BRANDED DVD-R: MEMOREX with "Is it live or is it Memorex" label
1. CMC MAG. AF1 (CMC Magnetics)
2. Silver writable top
3. CD-R King GILMORE
4. Php39.00 per piece
5. Claimed burn speed is 4x ; burned at 2x and 4x
6. No error detected using NEC 2510A and Lite-on dvd rom
7. Successful playback on:
NEC 2510A and Lite-on dvd rom
Played well in Philips DVP-642
8. Notes: This media is highly recommendable. Perfect substitute to the Ritek G04's. ;D
Had a disc that was not playable on the Philips DVP-642 because I burned it while my computer was downloading, etc. btw the pc is a slow pentium III. To achieve good burns, in my case, I reboot the computer, turn off all background programs as well as screen savers and have no other programs run other than the burn software (nero burning rom).
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Generic DVD-R: RITEK
1. RITEKG03
2. Plain silver top. DR5L16-00388 along inner ring writable side.
3. CD-R King Greenhills (2/F)
4. Php69.00 per piece
5. Rated at 2x, burned at 1x
6. No errors on DVDInfoPro and Nero 6
7. Successful playback on:
- Pioneer DVD Writer A04 (media verified)
- Pioneer DV-266 (full film viewed, no skipping and/or macro-blocking errors)
- Pioneer DV-535 (full film viewed, no skipping and/or macro-blocking errors)
8. Notes: Bought this sometime in early 2003. Hasn't been available in this configuration since then. Expensive compared to generic prices today but my backups are still in great working condition despite handling by kids, dust and a lot of surface scratches. Just verified one of the discs last night -- good as new!
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Generic DVD-R: ATERRA Media
1. FORNEX101 (Fornex)
2. Printable white top. Identified as DVD-R 4X F101A along inner ring of writable side.
3. CD-R King Gilmore
4. Php11.00 per piece
5. Rated at 4x, burned at 2x
6. No errors on DVDInfoPro, Nero 6, and DVDDecrypter
7. Successful playback on:
- Pioneer DVD Writer A04 (media verified)
- Pioneer DV-266
- Pioneer DV-535-K
8. Notes:
ATERRA, according to the CDRKing salesgirl, is the brand of choice in Quiapo. I bought 10 pieces which came packaged in a cake box. As my past experience with Fornex's "A" line (note the identification strip along the inner ring), these discs performed flawlessly at 2x with my Pioneer A04 writer.
I visited Fornex's website and discovered that they classify their generic media according to 4 grades ranging from A to D. Doesn't matter what brand the discs are sold under. I'm guessing that the ATERRAs are better than the ENZOs simply because they use discs from the Grade A line.
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Generic DVD-R: CD-R King "DVD-R Bar Code"
1. Fornex101
2. No brand labels. Has a bar code logo on top with Cd-r King label. Writable white top surface. Has "DVD-R 4X F101-P102A01" printed along inner ring (of the burn side).
3. CD-R King Taft
4. Php11.00 per piece
5. Unrated speed, burned at 4x and 2x
6. Has NO errors using DVDInfoPro to read with NEC ND-2510A dvd-writer and LITE-ON dvd-rom. Both test using same burned disc.
7. Successful playback on:
* File Access worked on LITE-ON and Hitachi dvd-roms.
* Still need to test on other stand alone dvd players
8. Notes: Burned using NERO Burning ROM with DVD ISO (for better compatibility).
In my previous posts, I encountered errors on this media, but that was my fault though. I was burning on a slow pc (pentium 3 - 500mhz) while having several p2p software downloading simultaneously and virus scans running in the background, etc. In other words, you will get errors no matter what media you use, if the source (PC) is too slow.
Generic DVD-R: CD-R King "DVD-R Bar Code"
1. VDSPMSAB 01
2. No brand labels. Has a bar code logo on top with Cd-r King label. Writable white top surface.
3. CD-R King Gilmore
4. Php11.00 per piece
5. Unrated speed, burned at 4X ONLY
6. Has NO errors using DVDInfoPro to read with NEC ND-2510A dvd-writer and LITE-ON dvd-rom. Both test using same burned disc.
7. Successful playback on:
*Played divx files on Philips DVP-642 stand-alone player
* File Access worked on LITE-ON and Hitachi dvd-roms.
8. Notes: Burned using NERO Burning ROM with DVD ISO (for best compatibility, imho).
*Had one disc that had lots of errors, but still readable (playable) with Philips DVP-642
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BRANDED DVD-R: IOMEGA DVD-R 2X"
1. PRODISCG02
2. White writeable with IOMEGA's name and logo.
3. CD-R King Taft
4. Php18.00 per piece
5. Rated speed is 2X, burned at 2X only.
6. Has NO errors using DVDInfoPro to read with NEC ND-2510A dvd-writer and LITE-ON dvd-rom. Both test using same burned disc.
7. Successful playback on:
* File Access worked on LITE-ON and Hitachi dvd-roms.
* Played divx files on Philips DVP-642 stand-alone player
8. Notes: Burned using NERO Burning ROM with DVD ISO (for better compatibility).
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BRANDED DVD-R: IOMEGA DVD-R 4X
1. ProdiscS03
2. White writeable with IOMEGA's name and logo.
3. CD-R King Taft
4. Php25.00 per piece
5. Rated speed is 4X, burned at 4X and 2X
6. NO errors using DVDInfoPro to read with NEC ND-2510A dvd-writer
7. Successful playback on:
* File Access worked on LITE-ON dvd-rom.
* Played divx files on Philips DVP-642 stand-alone player
8. Notes:
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any of you knows about this brand?
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0002KQRFU/ref=ord_cart_shr/002-1289988-4264038?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance
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Generic DVD-R 4X
1. No media code
2. Writeable white top with "Premium" written on the surface
3. CD-R King SM Cebu
4. Php7.00/DVD
5. Rated @4X, burned at 4X (on Lite-On LDW-411S)
6. No read errors
Additional testing with Transfer Rate Test with Nero CDSpeed (on Hitachi CD-RW/DVD GCC-4160N)
7. Successful read on files in both Lite-On and Hitachi drives mentioned above
8. Notes: A similar media is also sold with media code DKMZ01 @Php9.00/DVD. This also does not have any problems on my drive
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sidenote:
i noticed that those "cheap" (less than 15pesos) has only up to 1.2GB capacity. can you guys confirm this?
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sidenote:
i noticed that those "cheap" (less than 15pesos) has only up to 1.2GB capacity. can you guys confirm this?
So far I haven't encountered any "cheap" media w/ less than 4.7GB capacity (RAW - as marked on the disc). Cheapest I got so far, was P10.00 each, anyone know where to find P6.00 DVD blank media? (Those that pass a physical quality check).
Thanks ....
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Generic DVD-R 4X
1. No media code
2. Writeable white top with "Premium" written on the surface
3. CD-R King SM Cebu
4. Php7.00/DVD
5. Rated @4X, burned at 4X (on Lite-On LDW-411S)
6. No read errors
Additional testing with Transfer Rate Test with Nero CDSpeed (on Hitachi CD-RW/DVD GCC-4160N)
7. Successful read on files in both Lite-On and Hitachi drives mentioned above
8. Notes: A similar media is also sold with media code DKMZ01 @Php9.00/DVD. This also does not have any problems on my drive
I bought this dvd media a couple of weeks ago. I backed up a few of my dvds on this but encountered a few errors with some of the DVDs -- at a ratio of 1 defective disk for every 10 I burned. I played this back with no problem in both my NEC writer, Asus dvd-rom and nextbase player. BUT when I reviewed the same discs again after a couple of days on my nextbase player i found heavy pixellations on almost all of the movies I backed up. of the 50 i burned, only 5 did not have pixellations. The weird thing though is that there were no pixellations evident when I played it again in my drives and in a promac player my father-in-law has.
WEIRD.
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Guys you may use this free software from lite-on SMART-BURN Media Check Program to verify the information of the media you are using, such as the brand, the types ( CD-R / RW, DVD-R / RW, DVD+R / RW, Double Layer DVD+R ), speed limit...etc. Im just not sure if this program works with other drives....
(http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/images/obj_utility.jpg)
http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_utility.asp
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RIDATA+/-R 8X
1. Media code :RiTEK Corporation
2. Physical description of the disc: light blue disc color for dvd+r and violet for dvd-r with label "RIDATA 8X-R"
3. Place of purchase: CDR king Ayala Town Centre
4. Price per piece: P35
5. Claimed burn speed and the speed you burned at: 8X, actual burn at 8X
6. DVDInfoPro media test for read errors: NO READ ERRORS ON ALL DATA, video and audio DVDS lite-on 16x SOHW-1653
7. Test platforms (DVD-ROM and standalone players): lite-on 16x SOHW-1653, NU 16X dvd drive, pioneeR 270, philips 642, kebao 3089, nextbase
8. Notes (if any): flawless and no problem, 5 minutes burn for DVD audio/video AND 3 minutes burn for data @4.4 capacity.
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guys what to use for critical burn, to store video files ive downloaded, and store it "use it like a master copy" whats a good brand with a lower price? and avail in cd-r king
thanks
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guys what to use for critical burn, to store video files ive downloaded, and store it "use it like a master copy" whats a good brand with a lower price? and avail in cd-r king
thanks
Bro, try RIDATA+/-R 8x. Subok na subok ko na eto.
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I bought this dvd media a couple of weeks ago. I backed up a few of my dvds on this but encountered a few errors with some of the DVDs -- at a ratio of 1 defective disk for every 10 I burned. I played this back with no problem in both my NEC writer, Asus dvd-rom and nextbase player. BUT when I reviewed the same discs again after a couple of days on my nextbase player i found heavy pixellations on almost all of the movies I backed up. of the 50 i burned, only 5 did not have pixellations. The weird thing though is that there were no pixellations evident when I played it again in my drives and in a promac player my father-in-law has.
WEIRD.
this just means how unreliable the media is. i bought another batch again and i haven't been able to burn 1 disc successfully. i guess i should stay away from this media
btw, has anyone here tried scanning with k-probe? (works only with lite-on or other mediatek-based drives tho). i always use this method to check the reliability of my burns
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So far I haven't encountered any "cheap" media w/ less than 4.7GB capacity (RAW - as marked on the disc). Cheapest I got so far, was P10.00 each, anyone know where to find P6.00 DVD blank media? (Those that pass a physical quality check).
Thanks ....
hi dejakenth,
i have tried using this cheap cd. And it turns out na okay naman sya. For give aways. =) the disc has some errors when i data verification using a dvd infopro. I am still using iomega dvd -r for good burns. i havent encounter one defective using this media.
Onie.
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Generic DVD-R 4X
1. CMC MAG. AF1
2. White top with "Top DVD-R 4X" written on the hub
3. CD-R King SM
4. Php7.00/DVD
5. Rated @4X, burned at 4X (on Lite-on LDW-411S and NEC ND-2510A)
6. No read errors. Additional tests performed:
- Nero CD/DVD Speed transfer rate test: OK
- K-Probe scans: PI max=19, ave=2.66; PIF max=2, ave=0.02
7. Successful read on the following drives:
- Lite-On LDW-411S
- NEC ND-2510A
- Hitachi GCC-4160N
8. Though cheap, this media has the same MID code with the red and silver iomega DVD-R
i've been looking for a really cheap media for back-up of non-critical data. i hope this is it :D
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Generic DVD-R 4X
1. CMC MAG. AF1
2. White top with "Top DVD-R 4X" written on the hub
3. CD-R King SM
4. Php7.00/DVD
5. Rated @4X, burned at 4X (on Lite-on LDW-411S and NEC ND-2510A)
6. No read errors. Additional tests performed:
- Nero CD/DVD Speed transfer rate test: OK
- K-Probe scans: PI max=19, ave=2.66; PIF max=2, ave=0.02
7. Successful read on the following drives:
- Lite-On LDW-411S
- NEC ND-2510A
- Hitachi GCC-4160N
8. Though cheap, this media has the same MID code with the red and silver iomega DVD-R
i've been looking for a really cheap media for back-up of non-critical data. i hope this is it :D
@idlewild,
Thanks for the tip. Having the same MID code w/ the red&silver iomega, would make this media a better choice over the other cheap media. Hopefully it's only the branding (being generic TOP versus IOMEGA) which caused it to be sold cheaper. Or it's also possible these were originally slated to be marked IOMEGA and somehow did not make the cut.
Would anyone have an idea on this?
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hi dejakenth,
i have tried using this cheap cd. And it turns out na okay naman sya. For give aways. =) the disc has some errors when i data verification using a dvd infopro. I am still using iomega dvd -r for good burns. i havent encounter one defective using this media.
Onie.
Hi Onie,
See idlewild's post, seems there is a generic media at CD-R King that may have high quality sharing the same MID as IOMEGA. You hit it on the nail with regards to cheap DVD media, for give-aways or for burning of temporary stuff (like during PC clean-up and re-install or transport of large software patch from one location to another that don't have a high-speed link).
-DejaKenth
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peeps ask ko lng, i use the dvdinfoPro yng free, and use the crc error test and lagi may read error yng test nya , but its wierd d kc pantay yng mga error pa iba iba ang mga error when testing multiple times minsan sa start pa lng ng test may error na minsan wala, bakit kaya 2? is it my dvd writer's read capability?
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Hi Onie,
See idlewild's post, seems there is a generic media at CD-R King that may have high quality sharing the same MID as IOMEGA. You hit it on the nail with regards to cheap DVD media, for give-aways or for burning of temporary stuff (like during PC clean-up and re-install or transport of large software patch from one location to another that don't have a high-speed link).
-DejaKenth
Huhm? thanks dejakenth, it really seems interesting. Is it noticeable? The midcode red and silver, with iomega? is it really readable as iomega? if you can picture it sir idlewild, pa send naman po,
maraming salamat.
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just purchased a liteon dvdwriter 1673s. any idea what brand dvd i need to buy that's most compatible? yun mura lang muna. thanks
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Huhm? thanks dejakenth, it really seems interesting. Is it noticeable? The midcode red and silver, with iomega? is it really readable as iomega? if you can picture it sir idlewild, pa send naman po,
i don't understand what u mean onie but i compared only the MID code from both the generic and the iomega DVD-Rs and they're both the same.
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Ridata DVD-R 8X
Media Code: RITEKG05
Physical Description:
(http://img23.exs.cx/img23/5783/dvdrridataritekg055px.jpg)
Purchased at CD-R King Ayala Cebu for Php30.00/DVD
Rated @8X, but only tried burning @4X since i only have 4X-capable drive (Lite-on LDW-411S)
Media test: No read errors
Additional Test (K-Probe BLER Scan)
(http://img128.exs.cx/img128/9412/dvdrridataritekg05ldw411sfs0jb.png)
Additional Test (Nero CD-DVD Speed Transfer Rate Test)
(http://img187.exs.cx/img187/6527/dvdrridataritekg05ldw411sfs0jt.png)
Test platforms:
- Successful read on Lite-On LDW-411S
- Successful read on Hitachi GCC-4160N
EDIT: Corrected price per DVD
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wow! very informative.
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thanks :) here's another one...
Ridata DVD-R 4X
Media Code: RITEKG04
Physical Description: (Same with Ridata DVD-R 8X but only 4X)
Purchased at CD-R King Ayala Cebu for Php25.00/DVD
Rated @4X, burned @4X using a Lite-on LDW-411S
Media test: No read errors
Additional Test (K-Probe BLER Scan)
(http://img91.exs.cx/img91/4969/dvdrridataritekg04ldw411sfs0jb.png)
Additional Test (Nero CD-DVD Speed Transfer Rate Test)
(http://img224.exs.cx/img224/6029/dvdrridataritekg04ldw411sfs0jt.png)
Test platforms:
- Successful read on Lite-On LDW-411S
- Successful read on Hitachi GCC-4160N
Notes: Though read is OK, I've had better scans with the 8X media compared to this one. Both the 8X and 4X versions of Ridata have identical designs so when choosing which to buy, look for the written speed on the media.
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i don't understand what u mean onie but i compared only the MID code from both the generic and the iomega DVD-Rs and they're both the same.
ah, i see. Sorry for the misunderstanding sir idlewild.
Thanks,
Onie
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@idlewild,
Thanks for the tip. Having the same MID code w/ the red&silver iomega, would make this media a better choice over the other cheap media. Hopefully it's only the branding (being generic TOP versus IOMEGA) which caused it to be sold cheaper. Or it's also possible these were originally slated to be marked IOMEGA and somehow did not make the cut.
Would anyone have an idea on this?
According to one importer, generic media with CMC MIDs are excess discs.
Manufacturers normally produce additional batches in excess of actual orders as allowance for rejects. After the orders are manufactured and delivered, the manufacturer will still have excess discs on its hands which are then sold to other traders as "generic" media.
Rest assured that the "generic" CMC media are likewise of good quality because if they were otherwise, CMC Magnetics would have thrown them away as rejects and would not have sold them to a third party.
The only problem is that, since the quantity of excess discs will vary, availability of these discs will be inconsistent.
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thanks for the info barrister :) this must be the reason why such generic media run out fast. have to wait for the next available batch.
another thing, i always do PI/PIF scanning on my burnt DVDs and i noticed the generic CMC's give a more decent scan than the branded CMC's (iomega). pretty weird huh?
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Hello to all,
Sir idlewild, it seems that the brand you were referring, yun white na dvdr is curruntly out of stock.
Btw, sorry for my ingnorance, i was trying to test this two "cheap" media's using jitter test ng dvdinfopro, to see which one is better. Please do take note that both are free from crc errors. Can you please tell me which one is better dito sa dalawa? Hindi ko po kse talaga ma intindihan yun graph na to, at kung panu sya i-interpret. Again sorry for my ignorance.
Pic no.1
P6 pesos media, premium silver cd, with green circle lining, both on inner and outer.
(http://www.bulacan.ph/~ronnie/premium.jpg)
pic no. 2
P6 media, produce by cdrking.
(http://www.bulacan.ph/~ronnie/cdrking.jpg)
can you please advise which one is better? or if you have other suggestions. Price range from 6 to 8 pesos lang po sana.:)
Sir idlewild, may idea ka pa ba kung san meron nung white na dvd na yun? same inner print with iomega? wala na kse sa sm manila eh.
Thank you very much,
Onie.
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Pic no.1
P6 pesos media, premium silver cd, with green circle lining, both on inner and outer.
i used this DVD once. comes in two kinds, one with no MID code and the other with the DKMZ01 MID code. the DKMZ01 had no problems on my LDW-411S drive but the one with no MID code is very variable, i.e. less chance of a successful burn (i think indie_boy also experienced this problem). as ur scan shows, it has a potential read problem at the end so better stay out of this media.
pic no. 2
P6 media, produce by cdrking.
this one scans better so i think it has better quality than the first one :) both PI and PIF are well within spec, i.e. PI shouldn't max out at 280 and PIF shouldn't max out at 32 (since ur using 8ECC). IMO, u won't be having any problem with this media.
can you please advise which one is better? or if you have other suggestions. Price range from 6 to 8 pesos lang po sana.:)
i'd say go for the 2nd one :) btw, since u have a drive capable of PI/PIF-scanning, i'd suggest u read about interpreting such scans here (http://forum.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=80545). this would help u a lot in choosing the right media for ur drive. also, use nero cd/dvd speed's transfer rate test to check the readability of ur disc.
Sir idlewild, may idea ka pa ba kung san meron nung white na dvd na yun? same inner print with iomega? wala na kse sa sm manila eh.
sorry, i can't help since i can't also find that media here in cebu. CDR-king has no stock as of now.
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Thank you sir idlewild, i was looking on dvd info pro, on how to analyze the said graphs, wala naman pong nakalagay duon. Kelangan po pala magbasa ka ng mahaba to understand those graphs, so you you are in cebu pala sir idlewild. Thanks again. Everyone, sir idelwild provided a link above, on how we can analyze graphs, produce by our testing.
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IOMEGA DVD-R
1. Media code - CMC MAG AF1
2. Physical description of the disc - white with red font
3. Place of purchase - CD-R King Eastwood
4. Price per piece - P22.00
5. Claimed burn speed and the speed you burned at - claimed 4x; burned at 4x
6. Nero DVDSpeed Scandisc - no read errors
7. Test platforms - tested on Lite-On drive, Pioneer 270 and Pioneer 366 players
8. Notes - Burned with Lite-On SOHW 1653S.
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IOMEGA DVD-R
1. Media code - CMC MAG AF1
2. Physical description of the disc - white with red font
3. Place of purchase - CD-R King Eastwood
4. Price per piece - P22.00
5. Claimed burn speed and the speed you burned at - claimed 4x; burned at 4x
6. Nero DVDSpeed Scandisc - no read errors
7. Test platforms - tested on Lite-On drive, Pioneer 270 and Pioneer 366 players
8. Notes - Burned with Lite-On SOHW 1653S.
This is one of the most reliable dvd-r media I've encountered. I actually bought a whole spindle of the iomegas.
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i agree. the RIDATA DVD-R 8X also proves to be reliable :)
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guru's anong ok ng blank dvd yng printable ng inkjet printer?
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RIDATA has an 8X printable DVD-R out. P30 last time I checked in CD-R King.
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The 8 peso CDR King DVD-R printable is also reliable as long as you burn it at 2X. ;D
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Oh yes, I've tried those. Media code is "LEADDATA". Works fine in 2X but do not burn all the way to the edges. The batch I bought had imperfections along the outer rim causing the players I tested to skip towards the end of the disc.
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yup i have those 8 pesos leaddata , 200pcs binili ng friend ko sa cd-r king, davao kc ako, hirap mag basa, dapat pala 2x lng and ilang gig para ok sya?
and does cd-r king accept provincial orders? bc kc lagi yng friend ko and im running out of media
any other cheap printable na ok?
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Oh yes, I've tried those. Media code is "LEADDATA". Works fine in 2X but do not burn all the way to the edges. The batch I bought had imperfections along the outer rim causing the players I tested to skip towards the end of the disc.
this is usually the problem with these discs. burning data past the 4G mark is a hit or miss. i've also tried those cdr-king branded ones (with MID code FORNEX101) and same din ang results.
yup i have those 8 pesos leaddata , 200pcs binili ng friend ko sa cd-r king, davao kc ako, hirap mag basa, dapat pala 2x lng and ilang gig para ok sya?
and does cd-r king accept provincial orders? bc kc lagi yng friend ko and im running out of media
any other cheap printable na ok?
i think cdr-king has plans to open a branch in SM davao :)
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this is usually the problem with these discs. burning data past the 4G mark is a hit or miss. i've also tried those cdr-king branded ones (with MID code FORNEX101) and same din ang results.
Based from your experience guys, is there a rule of thumb on the burn capacity for generic DVDs? Say you should not go over the 4GB mark and burn only at 2x speed to avoid read problems or is it still a hit and miss affair (media and burner dependent)?
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IOMEGA DVD-R
1. Media code - CMC MAG AF1
2. Physical description of the disc - white with red font
3. Place of purchase - CD-R King Eastwood
4. Price per piece - P22.00
5. Claimed burn speed and the speed you burned at - claimed 4x; burned at 4x
6. Nero DVDSpeed Scandisc - no read errors
7. Test platforms - tested on Lite-On drive, Pioneer 270 and Pioneer 366 players
8. Notes - Burned with Lite-On SOHW 1653S.
F.Y.I.,
TOP DVD-R 4X are available at CD-R King Megamall (Cyberzone). Php7.00 each. Same media code as the Iomega disc above (CMC MAG AF1).
Also bought Philips DVD-R 8X and HP Invent DVD-R 8X in the same branch for Php25.00 each. Both have the same media code of CMC MAG AE1.
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TOP DVD-R 4X are available at CD-R King Megamall (Cyberzone). Php7.00 each.
was able to get some at the CDR-King in Quiapo at 8 pesos each :'( >:(
Mas mura pa sa Megamall :P
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Actually, it's P8.00 each in Megamall when I checked. Good deal. Will test tonight. Meanwhile, here's what DVD Identifier pulled off the disc:
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:CMC MAG. AF1]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG. AF1]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4,489.3MB = 4.38GB (4.71GB)]
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was able to get some at the CDR-King in Quiapo at 8 pesos each :'( >:(
Mas mura pa sa Megamall :P
Went to megamall again to buy some more discs, indeed it's Php8.00 each. But when I checked my previous receipt, I was only charged Php7.00 each (5pcs. x Php7.00 = Php35.00). Maybe the saleslady gave me a discount coz I bought 20pcs. of the Philips/HP DVD-R 8X discs at Php25.00 a pop. ;D :P
Burned a couple of TOP DVD-R's and filled it to the brim (4,474MB and 4,479MB out of the possible 4,489MB capacity). And I didn't experience any read problem (so far). TOP DVD-R looks very promising. ;D
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Hello,
Thanks for your update stoned wall, I just bought the said cd's above. Yun nga lang, ang binili ko is yung 8x na iomega. Too late when i saw philips and HP. Pero okay lang, maganda din naman performance ng iomega, subok ko na to. :)
Galeng ni stoned wall parang pumunta ka na din ng cdr king sa infos na binigay nya eh. :)
THanks,
Onie.
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Based from your experience guys, is there a rule of thumb on the burn capacity for generic DVDs? Say you should not go over the 4GB mark and burn only at 2x speed to avoid read problems or is it still a hit and miss affair (media and burner dependent)?
depends mostly on your burner. Lite-ons are known to perform poorly on generic media (those with MID codes like LEADDATA, ULTRAN, FORNEX, VDSPMSAB, etc) while NEC drives are generally able to burn them successfully.
to be on the safe side, when using these generic media, stay within the 4GB mark or if you decide to write past this, burn at 2X. another thing, learn more about your drive and what type of media it prefers. a good place to start is at
http://forum.cdfreaks.com
F.Y.I.,
TOP DVD-R 4X are available at CD-R King Megamall (Cyberzone). Php7.00 each. Same media code as the Iomega disc above (CMC MAG AF1).
Also bought Philips DVD-R 8X and HP Invent DVD-R 8X in the same branch for Php25.00 each. Both have the same media code of CMC MAG AE1.
when it comes to generic media, i prefer this one. it uses the same MID code as the iomega red and scans beautifully on my drive (refer to page 2 of this thread). my only problem is the availabilty of this media.
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yng top-dvd 4x printable ba for inkjet?
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Nope Top is non printable, rule of thumb is that printables have a rougher matte surface.
The cheapest printable is the Leadata at 8 pesos, afterwhich comes Ridata at 30 pesos.
Addedum;
Top is the only cheap DVD-R that you can safely get a whole tube since almost all the discs are smooth and devoid of any artifacts.
One should inspect all their discs prior to procuring one:most notably the Leadata printable since most discs have artifacts or plain damaged.
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depends mostly on your burner. Lite-ons are known to perform poorly on generic media (those with MID codes like LEADDATA, ULTRAN, FORNEX, VDSPMSAB, etc) while NEC drives are generally able to burn them successfully.
Update;
I am using a Liteon 815 and so far, with a burn speed of 2X, all the LEADDATA & FORNEX media that I made have no errors. It's a 6 out of 6 for LEADDATA and 8 out of 8 with FORNEX. ;D
Now with 4X all Fornex results were wasted, 4 out of 4 burned. :'(
It's a different result with TOP [DVD-R:CMC MAG. AF1], all burns at 4X and 2X proved no error. ;)
2 titles I burned using a FORNEX media had 2-3 skips with my Kebao & Konzert (yes sir, still at it's functioning best after 4 years of regular usage) DVD player, but played flawlessly on my Nextbase/ Xtreme & Apex DVD players. ;D
2 titles burned using a Toshiba burner (c/o a PinoyDVD friend) using a LEADDATA and burned (acc. to my friend) at maximum speed also yielded flawless transfer on all my generic players, and 4 titles I burned on LEADDATA at 2X has almost the same results (seems that it doesn't matter or no improvment can be noticeable at 2X) ???
My Amoisonic DVD player and Panasonic A300 ( yup-yup still trusty after 5 years of regular usage) although they can easily read any original R1 & R3 releases could not read any of the DVD-R I have. :'(
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Alfie! Nice to know your Konzert still works. Mine's still chugging along as well although I've passed it on to my in-laws. The Amoisonic is now with my brother and is experiencing read problems. The picture tends to freeze up every so many minutes even when playing orginal discs. Those were the days, eh?
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thats odd some of my leaddata works ok some sira, and sa napasin ko by batch ang sira, tama ba? yng first 2 cakebaox ko na "25 pcs/cake" ok the 2 secound cake sira lahat?
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Alfie! Nice to know your Konzert still works. Mine's still chugging along as well although I've passed it on to my in-laws. The Amoisonic is now with my brother and is experiencing read problems. The picture tends to freeze up every so many minutes even when playing orginal discs. Those were the days, eh?
Yup-yup...those were the days, I am taking good care of these two since theyr'e the only ones that are macrovision free, at least if I cannot decrypt a copy via a burner, the time will probably come that DVD-Recorders will come cheap.
thats odd some of my leaddata works ok some sira, and sa napasin ko by batch ang sira, tama ba? yng first 2 cakebaox ko na "25 pcs/cake" ok the 2 secound cake sira lahat?
Agree, I only get the LEADDATA for it's printable surface, however, most of the time, you'll have to physically inspect the data side for artifacts and some obvious deformities( out of about 10, I usually reject 2), per my experience, among the generics only the TOP DVD-R has a flawless data surface that is at par with the expensive ones.....only problem with this media is that it's always out of stock. :'(
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error cyclic redundancy check i get this a lot is this a prob bcoz of the cheap media? when copying from the dvd i burn going to hard drive?
any other brand thats printable and not expensive around 10-20 pesos?
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Update;
I am using a Liteon 815 and so far, with a burn speed of 2X, all the LEADDATA & FORNEX media that I made have no errors. It's a 6 out of 6 for LEADDATA and 8 out of 8 with FORNEX. ;D
Now with 4X all Fornex results were wasted, 4 out of 4 burned. :'(
It's a different result with TOP [DVD-R:CMC MAG. AF1], all burns at 4X and 2X proved no error. ;)
another thing, these discs may successfully burn on one's drive but i wouldn't use these for longer storage especially on critical data. did some scans on these discs after each burn and found their quality somewhat marginal. DVDs degrade over time and given the current performance of these discs, you're bound to get CRC errors in the future.
however, i can't say the same with Top DVD-R since i don't have any problems with this media.
OT: you're using an 851S drive, right? that's a better burner than the other x1S series :)
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another thing, these discs may successfully burn on one's drive but i wouldn't use these for longer storage especially on critical data. did some scans on these discs after each burn and found their quality somewhat marginal. DVDs degrade over time and given the current performance of these discs, you're bound to get CRC errors in the future.
however, i can't say the same with Top DVD-R since i don't have any problems with this media.
I agree, I think I've seen these happen on some copies...even some of my friends have reportedly experienced such a phenomena happening to some of their copies
OT: you're using an 851S drive, right? that's a better burner than the other x1S series :)
Yup yup the older model, good for single layered media, Thank you for the info, I am glad to know that. ;)
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Went to megamall again to buy some more discs, indeed it's Php8.00 each. But when I checked my previous receipt, I was only charged Php7.00 each (5pcs. x Php7.00 = Php35.00). Maybe the saleslady gave me a discount coz I bought 20pcs. of the Philips/HP DVD-R 8X discs at Php25.00 a pop. ;D :P
Burned a couple of TOP DVD-R's and filled it to the brim (4,474MB and 4,479MB out of the possible 4,489MB capacity). And I didn't experience any read problem (so far). TOP DVD-R looks very promising. ;D
Sorry for my ignorance stoned wall, pero when you say top dvd -r? does that mean yan yun brand? anu po ba looks nung cd na same code with iomega (cmc mag af1)
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Sorry for my ignorance stoned wall, pero when you say top dvd -r? does that mean yan yun brand? anu po ba looks nung cd na same code with iomega (cmc mag af1)
boss_onie,
Well, that is what is printed on the inner part of this generic disc. Plain white siya with markings of TOP DVD-R 4X. Php8.00 each and has the same code as the Iomega DVD-R 4X.
Went back to Megamall to score some more of these babies. Mabilis maubos. Last week, there were around 5 - 6 spindles (100pcs each). Kahapon, there was only 1 left. Had to buy more than what I needed - mahirap nang maubusan. ;D ;D ;D
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depends mostly on your burner. Lite-ons are known to perform poorly on generic media (those with MID codes like LEADDATA, ULTRAN, FORNEX, VDSPMSAB, etc) while NEC drives are generally able to burn them successfully.
My writer is an Emprex brand (BTC OEM) which I got in the States 1 year ago. I started with those CD-R King branded blanks (FORNEX???) and the orange colored with a horse discs (PRODISC). My writer performed well with them till they ran out of stock. Had several mis-adventures with the Premium brand and ONIDTECH code discs. Failure rate is 8 out of 10!!! I still have a lot of them in stock here used as coasters. >:(
It's good that I found the TOP (CMC code) discs and they perform well - my Philips 642k standalone and Samsung DVD-ROM/CDRW combo drive doesn't complain either. ;D
to be on the safe side, when using these generic media, stay within the 4GB mark or if you decide to write past this, burn at 2X. another thing, learn more about your drive and what type of media it prefers. a good place to start is at
http://forum.cdfreaks.com
Thanks for the tip. I will take this into account on my future burn sessions. ;D Will also browse the cdfreaks forum for further tips.
when it comes to generic media, i prefer this one. it uses the same MID code as the iomega red and scans beautifully on my drive (refer to page 2 of this thread). my only problem is the availabilty of this media.
I totally agree with the availability. Please see my comment above. In a matter of 1 week, 1 spindle was left in Megamall compared to around 5 - 6 spindles a week before. Probably the guys here in Pinoy hoarded these babies. ;D
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anyone has any experience with Plextor burners?
what are the different kinds of media most compatible with Plextor burners?
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anyone has any experience with Plextor burners?
what are the different kinds of media most compatible with Plextor burners?
dni,
I had a chance to evaluate a Plextor PX-716A (their latest) for a week. Burned several IOMEGA DVD-R 4x without any problem. The problem that I experienced is the drive cannot read those CD-R King branded discs (FORNEX???), even if they have been burned already by another DVD writer. Really weird. Even my standalone 5-year old Pioneer player can read those burned discs.
That's why I opted not to buy it, sayang Best product pa naman siya and gets consistent good reviews.
You could also browse the plextor website for media compatibility:
http://www.plextor.com/english/support/support_compatability.html
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boss_onie,
Well, that is what is printed on the inner part of this generic disc. Plain white siya with markings of TOP DVD-R 4X. Php8.00 each and has the same code as the Iomega DVD-R 4X.
Went back to Megamall to score some more of these babies. Mabilis maubos. Last week, there were around 5 - 6 spindles (100pcs each). Kahapon, there was only 1 left. Had to buy more than what I needed - mahirap nang maubusan. ;D ;D ;D
Maraming salamat sa reply mo sir stoned wall. =)
Onie.
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yikes! i just bought that exact model palang... i hope a firmware update can fix that problem... :-\ :'( :-\ :'(
dni,
I had a chance to evaluate a Plextor PX-716A (their latest) for a week. Burned several IOMEGA DVD-R 4x without any problem. The problem that I experienced is the drive cannot read those CD-R King branded discs (FORNEX???), even if they have been burned already by another DVD writer. Really weird. Even my standalone 5-year old Pioneer player can read those burned discs.
That's why I opted not to buy it, sayang Best product pa naman siya and gets consistent good reviews.
You could also browse the plextor website for media compatibility:
http://www.plextor.com/english/support/support_compatability.html
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yikes! i just bought that exact model palang... i hope a firmware update can fix that problem... :-\ :'( :-\ :'(
I do hope that a firmware update would solve the problem. The PX-716A latest firmware is version 1.06. When I tested the drive, it came with a 1.05 version. Do check out the Plextor website for the update. Please do provide a feedback if this problem has been solved already.
Also, check out www.rpc1.com to make your drive region free.
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I have the external version (USB/Firewire) version of Plextor PX-716 I bought about 6-7 months ago, after about a 100 copies, I've been experiencing SPINDLE SERVO FAILURE error. I thought that my unit is busted already but then it worked again though I am still observing it. It would be very difficlut to return it since I bought it in the States. I am hoping that it is a media problem. I buy those 8 peso printable DVDrs at CDRKing, it worked flawlessly after two packs of 25, I'm experiencing the problem on the 3rd pack. I have not experienced any problems on my Ridata ordered from Amazon. Hopefully, it is just that.
One friend advised me to go slow and not overheat the writer, it seems that that may also be a cause of this problem. If I find the time to do some copying, I normally do a lot in one sitting.
I downloaded the latest firmware last night (1.07) although haven't had time to install it.
Can you guys also give me some pointers on what I'm doing wrong given this situation:
- I'm using an IBM R51 notebook, the DVD/CDRW is now at Region 1, I did a back up of Phantom of the Opera R1 using DVDshrink then DVDdecrypter. The resulting copy worked fine but retained its R1 status and won't play on a strictly R3 player. My Plextor was bought from the States and presumably is R1. I tried the DVDdecrypter route - dvdshrink-dvddecrypter route, but DVDdecrypter sends a message that it can't crack via his brute force technology the region coding.
Q. How do I make my IBM notebook multiregion?
Q. How do I make my Plextor multiregion?
Q. How do I make my copies multiregion? I thought that DVDShrink removes all that crap already?
Thanks.
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thanks for the tip. will check that site to make it region free. :)
I do hope that a firmware update would solve the problem. The PX-716A latest firmware is version 1.06. When I tested the drive, it came with a 1.05 version. Do check out the Plextor website for the update. Please do provide a feedback if this problem has been solved already.
Also, check out www.rpc1.com to make your drive region free.
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One thing im happy about my Toshiba SDR 5372 is that it doesnt seem to reject a generic dvd-r or cd-r/w media. Even those that doesnt have a name printed on it -- no problem. --- at least for now-- ;D
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- I'm using an IBM R51 notebook, the DVD/CDRW is now at Region 1, I did a back up of Phantom of the Opera R1 using DVDshrink then DVDdecrypter. The resulting copy worked fine but retained its R1 status and won't play on a strictly R3 player. My Plextor was bought from the States and presumably is R1. I tried the DVDdecrypter route - dvdshrink-dvddecrypter route, but DVDdecrypter sends a message that it can't crack via his brute force technology the region coding.
Vojie, initially use the Decrypter, it will then ask you what region you will use the back-up, then click R3, it will use the brute force but once it fails it will offer an alternative route, all you have to do is click OK and you'll be surprise that it'll successfully crack the RCE and region code, if this fails, go to the options setting and click on the aggressive box, the decrypter always will find a way to crack the code, only failure I had so far are those physically damaged discs.
Q. How do I make my IBM notebook multiregion?
No physical way, but the DVD Genie and the DVD43 once set-up on your laptop will forego of the region problem
Q. How do I make my copies multiregion? I thought that DVDShrink removes all that crap already?
the DVDgenie or the DVD43 once activated on your PC will make your problem obsolete, you can use DVDshrink and not worry at all, here's the link;
http://www.dvd43.com/
and a quote from Barrister;Why not try DVD43?
Works equally well; it's free; it's regularly updated to keep up with new encryption methods.
DVD43 now handles Columbia's new ARCOSS protection.
For DVDgenie, here's the site;
http://www.inmatrix.com/files/dvdgenie_download.shtml
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question re reliability of unbranded dvd-r media.
i already have about 30 miniDV tapes. very expensive hobby for me ;D
what i am doing now is that i transfer my tapes to PC via firewire in AVI format (13.5Gb). then split the file into 3, and store them in 3 DVD-Rs, still in raw AVI format.
this way, maybe i can re-use the tape 3 or 4 more times. but i will still keep very important videos on tape as backup.
my DVD-R are from CD-R King at P7 each. TOP DVD-R 4X is the print on the inner ring. what i'm afraid of is the quality of these DVD-R. will it last like the branded DVD media (30-100yrs)?
also, i don't have any idea of how to label these discs. and, is there a storage for large amount of discs? like CD cases/magazines/sleeves? any good brands you know?
i'm onto buying 100 TOP DVD-R this week ;D
salamats
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sadly wala ng stock ang top dvd-r and any generic white dvd-r's...searched everywhere pati quiapo branch sinugod ko na..
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has anyone tried CDR-King's recent release of DVD-Rs? Are they any good? i bought their Premium Brand (manufacturer: Taiyo-Yuden) but it kinda sucked at 4x since it hangs a lot at the latter part of the disc when making dvd-video....
i saw the white coating dvdr, but they are out already so i switched to dvd+r (advertised as r020) bec. of the premium brand dvd-r... hope i dont encounter problems with the dvd+rs
Writer: LG-4163b
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i bought 10 printable dvd-r 4x (no brand) for P7 each. i've got 6 out of 10 >:(
then recently, i bought another no brand for P8 each, gold ang kulay with a 4x/DVD-R/4.7GB/120 Minutes description. so far 5 successful burns. i bought 50 pcs. 8)
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The R020's are quite good. I'm very much satisfied with them. Unfortunately, I couldn't find it in CD-R King Megamall. I hope they stock up on these again soon. I also bought the gold DVD-R but I'm not too sure about its quality, if you'll compare it with other DVD media the plastic is so much more thinner. I don't know how it will affect data storage in the long run.
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I like the gold -r media from cdrking tho hirap na maghanap ngayon. The R020 ones naman ok lang but i still prefer yung gold ones. Good site to check for media compatibilities din is http://www.dvdrhelp.com/
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hi trinity. is the gold dvd-r you're talking about is the same as the one i bought?
salamats
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then recently, i bought another no brand for P8 each, gold ang kulay with a 4x/DVD-R/4.7GB/120 Minutes description. so far 5 successful burns. i bought 50 pcs. 8)
got this also at wala ding paltos -- ;D dadamihan ko siguro ng stock ko nito ;)
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hi trinity. is the gold dvd-r you're talking about is the same as the one i bought?
salamats
kung yung media code nya is GSC001 then yup :D
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how can i know the media code of the disc? there is some kind of code in the inner ring: 090103534F370G. then that's it, no more descriptions.
salamats
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how can i know the media code of the disc? there is some kind of code in the inner ring: 090103534F370G. then that's it, no more descriptions.
salamats
download the tool described in the first post of this thread. you can also use DVD Identifier (http://dvdidentifier.cdfreaks.com) or Nero CD/DVD Speed (http://www.cdspeed2000.com)
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got this also at wala ding paltos -- ;D dadamihan ko siguro ng stock ko nito ;)
OK DIN DITO..
USING PLEXTOR 708-A
BURNED 4X speed
4200 MB BELOW FILE SIZE
8 DVDS
6 AYOS WITH VERIFICATION IN NERO
1 accidentally nasira ko coz ginalaw ko ung power
1 FACTORY DEFECT (track not recognized daw).. tinapon ko na lnag sa trash can
8/10 rating..
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yahoo!!! dumating na rin yung inorder kong taiyo yuden from meritline.com. now to see kung sulit ang bili ko. problem is ano kokopyahin ko ???
voj
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vojdiaz
magkano labas ng taiyo? magkano shiping balak ko kc order rin pero no idea kng magkano padyad sa shiping, and matagal ba dumating?
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WARNING FOR ALL THE CUSTOMERS OF CDRKING!!
they do not replace or exchange ALL DVD DISC1!!.. wala daw sa policy nila..
paki complain nga to sa DTI para ma multahan nga to..!!
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vojdiaz
magkano labas ng taiyo? magkano shiping balak ko kc order rin pero no idea kng magkano padyad sa shiping, and matagal ba dumating?
sorry for the late reply. For the prices, please consult Meritline.com. Mine was shipped inside my sister's usual balikbayan box padala.
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ic :) tnx
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Nakagamit na din ako nung gold dvds from cdrking ok nga siya kaya lang pansin ko pag puno talaga yung disc medyo nagsskip ng konti yung movie. Para sa mga taga south meron nito sa waltermart calamba 10 each. Sa cdr king pavilion meron din sila madami pa pati yung R020. Nakabili ako taiyo yuden media code for 9 pesos each, he he! Japeyks! Meron din sila sony dvd-r and +r 30 isa i don't know kung orig talaga to. Bought one pero di ko pa natatry.
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vinnov4,
pa pm naman kung paano pumunta sa pavillion from alabang tnx!
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guys, have you tried the Illusion DVD+/-R discs 12x for only 30pesos lang! Nabasa ko sa ibang brand ng dvd-writer it detects 12x pero sa writer ko only 8x lang ang available...
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guys, have you tried the Illusion DVD+/-R discs 12x for only 30pesos lang! Nabasa ko sa ibang brand ng dvd-writer it detects 12x pero sa writer ko only 8x lang ang available...
saan mo nabili yang cd na yan?
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guys pwede nyo post d2 contact number ng cdr-king, davao kc ako, and wala kc ako makita na printable dvd media d2 , i'll try to order sa cdr-king, need thier number thanks :)
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don't think cdr king davao is pen yet. last i heard they are looking at another space since Herrera bros. did not move out.
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i mean number ng manila cdr-king cz i'll try to order from them :) hehehehe parang nakakalito type ko hahahaha
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after i have enjoyed using the GOLD- DVD-r (the one were talking about here) -- bili ulit ako ng 20 pieces - new stock daw.. -- last weekend i tried using it again but my writer could no longer detect it >:(
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all the 20pcs ba? sayang naman kung ganun! any possibilities for refund or change of items.
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yeah! i'll just try to exchange that this weekend -- sana pwede pa. I dont know pero naubos kasi ung unang stock -- kaya what i got was from their new stock. my DVD writer is just prompting me "no disk inserted" >:(
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WARNING!!... REMEMBER sometimes cdrking WOULD NOT EXCHANGE DVDS.. except gilmore vicinity...
pls be adviced and be guided.. and no refund of cash.. only items if possible
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di nga pinalitan DVD-r ko - :'( charge to experience talaga! so as not to be a victim again, i just bought 2 disk just to try the brand first. while ago i discovered that what i got were actually DVD+r pala.
brand: CD Square studious
specs: DVD+r 8x / 4.76 / 120 Min
color Gold with a big letter Q design in the middle
Just got a successful burning with this ;D bili ako ng marami-rami bukas !
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di nga pinalitan DVD-r ko - :'( charge to experience talaga! so as not to be a victim again, i just bought 2 disk just to try the brand first. while ago i discovered that what i got were actually DVD+r pala.
brand: CD Square studious
specs: DVD+r 8x / 4.76 / 120 Min
color Gold with a big letter Q design in the middle
Just got a successful burning with this ;D bili ako ng marami-rami bukas !
saan mo binili ung dvd gold disc na di pinalitan? anong branch?
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I just bought this blue generic CD-R King DVD-R since they've ran out of the gold DVD-R (which was surprisingly good!). Anyone else tried this media?
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saan mo binili ung dvd gold disc na di pinalitan? anong branch?
Bro SM Fairview -- they dont change DVD Rs daw because used DVD rs usually dont have easily detectable marks as compared to a used CDRs ::)
btw, is it really true that for AUDIO and VIDEO we should only use DVD-rs and not DVD+rs? thanks
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Bro SM Fairview -- they dont change DVD Rs daw because used DVD rs usually dont have easily detectable marks as compared to a used CDRs ::)
btw, is it really true that for AUDIO and VIDEO we should only use DVD-rs and not DVD+rs? thanks
ewan ko lang kasi pag video dapat dvd-r
un ang alam ko.. soo...
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btw, is it really true that for AUDIO and VIDEO we should only use DVD-rs and not DVD+rs? thanks
on most players, DVD-R offers higher compatibility than DVD+R. but i've also seen players which only accepts DVD+R (like a particular Philips player of a friend). better check out the manual of your standalone to check which media types it accepts.
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If your player was manufactured after 2001, it shouldn't have problems reading either format. Referring to the manuals isn't a reliable way of determining compatibility.
Re-posting from another thread:
The DVD Forum doesn't recognize DVD+R and +RW as legitimate formats. It's similar to the VHS/Betamax and Blu-Ray/HD-DVD conflicts. The official position of the standards body is as follows (and I quote):
"...the "+RW" format, also known as DVD+RW was neither developed nor approved by the DVD Forum. The approved recordable formats are DVD-R, DVD-RW and DVD-RAM."
But this doesn't automatically mean the players aren't compatible with both standards. Since they were developing a non-standard format, the DVD+RW Alliance took pains to ensure that compatibility would be a non-issue as much as possible with standard DVD players.
From Wikipedia:
The DVD Forum created the official DVD-R(W) standards. As the licensing cost for the technology was very high, another group was founded: the DVD+RW Alliance who created a standard with lower licensing costs. At first, DVD+R(W) media were typically more expensive than DVD-R(W) media, but the prices are now very similar. Since DVD+R(W) discs are not technically DVDs as per the DVD Forum standards, they are not allowed to display the DVD logo; instead, they display an "RW" logo. However, they are readable by most DVD drives, so they are referred to as DVD+RW or DVD+R.
The "+" (plus) and "-" (dash) are similar technical standards and are partially compatible. As of 2004, both formats are equally popular, with about half of the industry supporting "+", and the other half "-". It is open to debate whether either format will push the other out of the market, or whether they will co-exist indefinitely. All DVD readers are supposed to read both formats, though real-world compatibility is around 90% for both formats, with DVD-R having the best overall compatibility in independent tests. Most new DVD writers can write both formats and carry both the RW and DVD logos.
Visit the official DVD Forum site (http://www.dvdforum.com/forum.shtml) for more information.
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Bro Fire -- tnx for the post -- with the info, i now have broader source of DVD recordables -- ;D
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Just bought the liteon sohw-1673s 16x dvd writer. since i am using it for backup purposes. i am sticking to branded media as long term stability is important to me. just tried the philips dvd-r 8x. bought 4 for P25 each. all burned successfully at 8x and used 99% of capacity.
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yeah Philips is sure shot -- i use that for my video transfers mas sigurado ;D
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@daigoro/jerix:
this Philips DVD-R 8X you mentioned, is this is the one with the FUJIFILM03 MID? i'm asking this 'coz out of the 5 blanks i had, i only had 1 successful burn. my burner's an LG GSA-4163B. even my officemate's BenQ DW-1620 didn't have luck on this media.
i was hoping it might have been a bad batch, but the next batches i bought were also crap (excuse the word). just gave it to a friend and never looked back. sayang :(
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@daigoro/jerix:
this Philips DVD-R 8X you mentioned, is this is the one with the FUJIFILM03 MID? i'm asking this 'coz out of the 5 blanks i had, i only had 1 successful burn. my burner's an LG GSA-4163B. even my officemate's BenQ DW-1620 didn't have luck on this media.
i was hoping it might have been a bad batch, but the next batches i bought were also crap (excuse the word). just gave it to a friend and never looked back. sayang :(
Hi idlewild,
That's strange. If you will remember my nero cd-dvd speed tests, I've had the best results with these disks on my LG gsa-5163 external writer, which is basically the same as the 4163. Haven't burned anything lately but will try one or two from what's remaining of the batch of 25 philips disks I bought most recently.
GAOL
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bro idle, i bought 10 of the philips brand -- i have only 4 remaining and those that i have used appear to be really good. I just hope that the next batch of Philips would remain as good as the ones i got now. Its 25/disk and i expect this to be at least better than the 8/disk brand. ill check the specs ur askin when i get home.
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@gaol:
i remember your scans well, which is also the reason why i recommended it to an officemate who has a BenQ and also gave this media a try on my LG. the problem is, i can't get the same performance as yours. the only successful burn gave a PIE average of 60.25 (not bad but not what i expected)
anyway, i won't be using this media for a while. i'll give it another try next time.
@jerix:
the one i used is also sold at P25/disc. i'm glad it works for all of you. i'm starting to think the problem might have to do with how these discs are handled at our local outlet since i bought mine from a spindle of 50.
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Yup, that's what i tried. the philips/fujifilm dvd-r 8x. another thing you might want to do is to upgrade your firmware. i upgraded the firmware of the liteon sohw-1673s. one of the reasons for the upgrade is more compatibility with media.
saw the following information from lg's website
New firmware (ver. A105) for only GSA-4163B(Internal 16X Super multi DVD Writer)
Model:GSA-4163B
Ver:A105
Improvement Point
-. Improvement of recording quality for DVD-R and DVD-RW
-. Addition of new DVD codes
º DVD-R: Optodisc(OPTODISCR016), Prodisc(ProdiscF02), Ritek(RITEKM16)
º DVD+R: UME Disc(AML 002 0), DAXON(DAXON AZ3 0)
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i already have this firmware but thanks for posting anyway. as i've reported on my previous post, the problem does not occur only on my LG burner but also on an officemate's BenQ. i'm quite hesitant to spend on this media as i've already wasted a few.
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DVD BALL
media code = dkmz01
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USING PLEXTOR 708-A
BURNED 2X speed
4200 MB BELOW FILE SIZE
2 DVDs burned so far
comments
has anyone seen this type of DVD at cdrking?
and pls add additional comments if u have this dvd
coaster => none so far...
8/10 rating..
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i think that's the e-Top DVD-R 8X. parang ball kasi yung design niya.
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DVD BALL
media code = dkmz01
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USING PLEXTOR 708-A
BURNED 2X speed
4200 MB BELOW FILE SIZE
2 DVDs burned so far
comments
has anyone seen this type of DVD at cdrking?
and pls add additional comments if u have this dvd
coaster => none so far...
8/10 rating..
sumablay na daw ung DVD-R ng ETOP..
2/20 ang sablay
burner... liteon DL DVD writer
SOHC something ang model..
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i switched to the more costly philips DVD-r /25.00 -- and so far, m getting good results for my video transfer projects. Iba yata talaga ung mas mahal mas maganda quality ;D
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i always buy the P25 each DVD since I had problems with a batch of AFA branded dvds. I've used Philips, Iomega, Ridata, Ritek and Melody.
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i always buy the P25 each DVD since I had problems with a batch of AFA branded dvds. I've used Philips, Iomega, Ridata, Ritek and Melody.
wla naman talagang problema yan e pag 25 each..
ako try ko use melody dvd.. and ill inform of the results..
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Yun P25 Philips na binili ko sa CDR-king, sablay sa lite-on SOSW-852s internal. P30 Sony hindi sumablay
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hmm -- so far my Toshiba DVD Writer works well with the Philips maybe if ever they become incompatible, maybe ill try the 30.00 sony. ;)
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E-TOP DVD-R
sumablay at 2x speed..
6 files
5 and 6 unreadable files..
CRC ERROR
burned at plextor px708a
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another 7 peso DVD-r
media code = nanya-jc001
description = cdrking brand (moon and stars design black)
bought 2
tested 1
works fine for a dvd video of 1.5 GB
burned on px708a
comments:
may nakagamit pa ba nito? pls give feed back
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I'm new on burning or making of backup on my original dvd movies. Can you please provide me a dvd-r that I can use, if possible the cheaper ones with good quality. Can you put a review on the Etop -R(yellow) and +R(red) as well.
Thanks!
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anyone having problems with CDR-King's Taiyo Yuden DVD-R (Premium, Silver and Azul)? I had problems before with the Premium (i think they are the fake TY DVD-R) DVD-R (video was getting glitches and refuse to play properly but when used on other brands like the Nanya, it played fine)
Now CDR has these AZUL brand (Taiyo Yuden also) and was wondering if it was any good.
Btw, also Nanya DVD-/+R, any comments?
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ANOTHER UPDATE..
DISC = FORTIS
DESCRIPTION = white and writen FORTIS TECHNOLOGY
Media CODE = auvistarm01
BURNER = LG GSA-4167B
RESULTs:
BAD AT VIDEO.. namimili ng player.. sony old dvd player nagskip
sa bago na sony din di nagskip
Works fine at pc reading.. no CRC errors detected..
pls add comments abt this dvd
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didnt know Fortis was bad at video. used it at my Fukuda DIVX-881 Player, worked fine.
Burner: LG4163-B (burned at 4x)
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Fortis works fine here also! Another good cheap dvd-r is Etop priced at P12 out of stock na sa cdrking ;)
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What reliable DVD-R brand in the 8 - 20 peso category is widely available in CD-R King right now? Plan ko kasing bumili ng isang spindle. Are the the gold DVD-Rs back on stock?
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Reliable media, based on my experience, etop DVD-R. Wla pa sumablay. Ridata costs P25 may nasira sa akin, two pcs lang naman. Pansinin mo, etop lagi ang nauubos ang stock.
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Are there available stocks? Bumili na din ako ng e-top and it's really good.
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Tumingin ako kanina sa Ayala MRT kaso Plus lang ang available.
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Yikes. I'll try to look for it in other branches. Thanks for the info blu-ray!
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Fortis works fine here also! Another good cheap dvd-r is Etop priced at P12 out of stock na sa cdrking ;)
etop dvd-r wont play at my dvd player old.. dont know in +R kung gagana
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Bought some Fortis DVD-Rs to try out. Burned okay at 4X and it plays fine on my Pioneer players. Nero CD-DVD Speed curve isn't as smooth as the eTop and Top DVD-Rs though. And disc verification is pretty slow compared to other media.
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how about the Nanya DVD-R? there are variations of it.. any comments?
moon/star design (black) = ???
wave design (black) = ???
blue = sometimes my Fukuda DIVX player doesnt read it at all but plays fine w/ my dvdwriter
gold = this one works well with my Fukuda DIVX player
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weird ng talaga ng blue... pareho lang naman silang nanya..the moon design is ok too..havent tried the wave..
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I was surprised that my Pioneer A07XL had the Nanya +/- discs explicitly listed in its latest firmware database so I bought some discs to try out:
- 4X DVD-R (Media Code: NANYA-JC001).These are the gold discs. I looked up the media code online and this series got very poor ratings from some users particularly those with NEC players. On the Pio however, the results at 4X were extremely good. On Nero CD/DVD speed, read rate started 3.8X and smoothly went up to 8X with no unusual spikes.
- 8X DVD+R (Media Code: NANYA-CLX-00).These are the white discs with the small RW logo on the right side. I've finished a couple of test burns and verified that you need to upgrade your firmware to v1.22 to take full advantage of this media. Lower version fw (with the 8X all media hack installed) results in erratic burns and the inability to properly verify the discs. Using v1.22 (official not hacked), the drive recognized the 8X media natively and I was able to burn at a steady 8X rate. Nero CD/DVD Speed again drew a very smooth curve from 3.5X to 8.2/8.3X -- excellent!
If you own a Pioneer writer with the latest firmware installed, the Nanyas are a great deal IMHO. Of course I'll have to verify the discs again in 3 months... but so far, so good.
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Wala na ako makitang Etop DVD-R. Saang branch kaya ng CDR King meron? :'(
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CDR King has this brand: Azul 8x DVD-R. it's media is TYG02 (Taiyo Yuden). P14/each. probably an imitation. i have not tried burning on it since i don't know what data to sacrifice to it. =)
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I have Azuls that I bought directly from Taiwan. They're made by Fornex, manufacturer of the infamous Fornex 101s and the better-than-expected initial batch of "Premium" DVD-Rs (DKMZ01 media code). The Azuls are decent but they do use the same media code as the TYG02 discs but they're obviously not genuine TYG02s. In other words, your DVD writer will default to the internal TY write strategy in your firmware when using the Azuls -- which is intentional imho. Whether that's a good thing or bad thing is something that I haven't figured out yet.
Still, I have yet to burn a coaster with the Azul brand on my Pio A07 so I'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Btw, the orange eTop DVD-Rs also carry the DKMZ01 media code so they're probably made by Fornex as well.
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Got 10 pieces of PHILIPS DVD-r for 25 each yesterday from CDR-King because accordingly, these are the better quality discs in the market compared with the other cheaper brands. And truly i also noticed that its really better than the previous brands i have tested.
I am just ondering what happened to this PHILIP DVD-r now, because they could no longer be read by my toshiba 5372 DVD writer -- ??? Sampo pa naman kinuha ko kahapon and i dont know what to say to the salesgirl in CDR King when i will return this later this pm. :-\ maibabalik pa kaya ito?
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SUCCESS!!! ;D
I was able to exchange the PHILIPS DVD-R with an HP yesterday. Sabi ko sa salesgirl "mali ang nabili ko - dapat daw HP" ;D
To make it appear na hindi talaga nagalaw ung binili kong discs, hinanap ko pa sa trash can ung flexible plastic binder na ginagamit to secure the discs, luckily nandun pa - painstakingly spread apart the binder and re use it on the discs again -- the salesgirl was trying to inspect the disc but since she believed that the binder was untouched she never checked all the discs again. ;D
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SUCCESS!!! ;D
I was able to exchange the PHILIPS DVD-R with an HP yesterday. Sabi ko sa salesgirl "mali ang nabili ko - dapat daw HP" ;D
To make it appear na hindi talaga nagalaw ung binili kong discs, hinanap ko pa sa trash can ung flexible plastic binder na ginagamit to secure the discs, luckily nandun pa - painstakingly spread apart the binder and re use it on the discs again -- the salesgirl was trying to inspect the disc but since she believed that the binder was untouched she never checked all the discs again. ;D
pare anong branch ka ba bumili nyan? sa gilmore ka ba bumili?
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jerix,
are those the silver 8x philips?
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downtown --- yup
Snapy -- bro kung connected ka sa CDR King wag mo silang e-terminate ha? ;D Maganda nga yun kasi at least guaranteed satisfaction and dulot nyan sa aming customers. Yun lang naman ang ginawa kong strategy, pero sa totoo lang hndi naman gamit yun and are still in very good condition. :)
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downtown --- yup
Snapy -- bro kung connected ka sa CDR King wag mo silang e-terminate ha? ;D Maganda nga yun kasi at least guaranteed satisfaction and dulot nyan sa aming customers. Yun lang naman ang ginawa kong strategy, pero sa totoo lang hndi naman gamit yun and are still in very good condition. :)
tsiong wla akong connection dyan.. besides ako naman din gusto ko magkaroon talaga sila ng return policy..
e ang problema.. only gilmore does that.. wla na ibang branch..
biktima nadin ako nyang no return policy..
yan naman din nakakainis they aint playing fare talaga with the dvds.. gilmore lang?
i really wanted to know the reason bat gilmore lang pwede dvd return.. and not with other branches.. anybody knew it? pls explain..
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sa legarda branch,pwede naman return...
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sa legarda branch,pwede naman return...
oh? dvd pwede return sa legarda?
alam ko cdr pwede sa lahat..
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tsiong wla akong connection dyan.. besides ako naman din gusto ko magkaroon talaga sila ng return policy..
e ang problema.. only gilmore does that.. wla na ibang branch..
biktima nadin ako nyang no return policy..
yan naman din nakakainis they aint playing fare talaga with the dvds.. gilmore lang?
i really wanted to know the reason bat gilmore lang pwede dvd return.. and not with other branches.. anybody knew it? pls explain..
Bro joke only! ;D i refer to the CDR-king SM Fairview branch. I really dont know nagbakasakali lang talaga ako to return that kasi once i tried returning some DVD-rs, the gold one costing i think 12 pesos each, much cheaper than the 25 pesos Philips and the saleslady refused.
Maybe for the Philips or more pricey discs pwede but not the discs costing around 12 pesos.
Maybe too, depende sa rason -- sabi ko kasi sa salesgirl "nagkamali ako ng bili dapat HP and not Philips" without declaring that i have already tested all the discs. ;)
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mga kapatid, may katanungan lang ako. i have these DVD-Rs with a CD-R King brand on the inner ring- these costs P7 each. i think i have about a little more than 50% burning success on these super cheap discs. tanong ko lang, does this cheapness the reason kung bakit some of my unsuccessful burns have a ghost-like or cloud-like image on the discs? or is it because of the burner?
next time, i might try the P10-P12 discs, baka mas mataas ang success rate.
salamats
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Bro joke only! ;D i refer to the CDR-king SM Fairview branch. I really dont know nagbakasakali lang talaga ako to return that kasi once i tried returning some DVD-rs, the gold one costing i think 12 pesos each, much cheaper than the 25 pesos Philips and the saleslady refused.
Maybe for the Philips or more pricey discs pwede but not the discs costing around 12 pesos.
Maybe too, depende sa rason -- sabi ko kasi sa salesgirl "nagkamali ako ng bili dapat HP and not Philips" without declaring that i have already tested all the discs. ;)
di ko lang alam.. e bakit sa ridata ko ayaw nila palitan.. no return policy.. sabi ko di gumagana sa writer ko
am using plextor px708a
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mga kapatid, may katanungan lang ako. i have these DVD-Rs with a CD-R King brand on the inner ring- these costs P7 each. i think i have about a little more than 50% burning success on these super cheap discs. tanong ko lang, does this cheapness the reason kung bakit some of my unsuccessful burns have a ghost-like or cloud-like image on the discs? or is it because of the burner?
next time, i might try the P10-P12 discs, baka mas mataas ang success rate.
salamats
ano baa writer mo?.. ung gamit ko na moon and star 2 palang nasira sa akin in 150 disc.. im using LG 4167B
warning! even using fortis 11 pesos dvd .. sablay din.. sa friend ko liteon dvd gamit.. sablay fortis.. di ko lang alam sa yo kung ok fortis..
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Cheapness, IMHO, kasi parang mas pulido ang pagkagawa ng iba. though hindi batayan ang success rate kahit maganda ang burn side. Tanong ko lang, hindi mo ba napansin ang cloud-like image bago ka nag record?
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Make sure your firmware is updated. If the generic disc isn't recognized by your writer (meaning it isn't listed in its internal write strategy database), then the drive will default to a generic strategy which will likely result in defective burns. Hacking your drive with firmware that forces it to burn at higher speeds on slow media only worsens the problem.
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maraming salamat sa mga replies.
i use two writers, liteon and asus. sa liteon, defective ang burn nya kapag may skip yung burn nya, yung may line along the disc. sa asus yung may cloud-like image.
and i check the discs, wala naman syang visible defects, bago ako magburn. before, i tried using P25 discs, 3 out 4 ang unsuccessful burns. that's the reason kung bakit cheapest ang kinukuha ko. kung unsuccessful man, hindi masyado mabigat sa loob. ehehehe. nagstart itong pag iwas ko sa expensive blanks noong panahon pa ng CDRs. mapa verbatim or philips, pareho lang ang success and failed burn rate sa P5 blank generic CDRs.
regarding sa firmware, hindi pa ako nag attempt mag upgrade. 1st, kasi successful naman sya sa TOP-DVD-R and Gold discs ng CDRKing, and not all of the blue discs i bought have unsuccessful burns. more than 50% ang success rate nya. 2nd, baka magkamali ako ng upgrade, hindi ko na mabalikan yung orig.
btw, i've read here that we should burn on a slowest speed whenever we use generic discs with more than 4G of space. sa experience ko, kapag naaasar or nagmamadali ako, i will use 4x. pareho lang ng success/unsuccessful burns with 2x or 1x.
salamats
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BENQ DVD-R
Manufacturer - Daxon Technology Inc.
Media code - DAXON0165S
Physical description - Pearl white label with silver writing
Max. burn speed - 16x; Actually burned at 8x
Nero CD-DVD Speed ScanDisc Test - No read errors
Test platforms - Lite-On 167T and Pioneer 207 standalone
Notes -
Excellent quality.
Medyo matagal lang ang Lead-In writing (around 1 1/2 mins.).
Proprietary technologies: "Picfect" (claims to minimize PI value), and "DataGuard X" (claims to provide better data protection with Sterling Silver Reflective Layer, Enhanced Recording Layer, Anti-UV Strengthened Substrate, and Seamless Bonding Technology)
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BENQ DVD-R
Manufacturer - Daxon Technology Inc.
Media code - DAXON0165S
Physical description - Pearl white label with silver writing
Max. burn speed - 16x; Actually burned at 8x
Nero CD-DVD Speed ScanDisc Test - No read errors
Test platforms - Lite-On 167T and Pioneer 207 standalone
Notes -
Excellent quality.
Medyo matagal lang ang Lead-In writing (around 1 1/2 mins.).
Proprietary technologies: "Picfect" (claims to minimize PI value), and "DataGuard X" (claims to provide better data protection with Sterling Silver Reflective Layer, Enhanced Recording Layer, Anti-UV Strengthened Substrate, and Seamless Bonding Technology)
sir ask ko po sana kung ito po yung mga nabibili sa cdr-king. TIA 8)
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sir ask ko po sana kung ito po yung mga nabibili sa cdr-king. TIA 8)
magkano ba tong benq na dvd-r.. baka 20 naman isa??
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Hindi ito yung nasa CDR-King.
Samples lang ito. Bago pa lang. Retail price will be around P35.00.
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Hindi ito yung nasa CDR-King.
Samples lang ito. Bago pa lang. Retail price will be around P35.00.
yay!! mahal.. teka anong retail shop nyan? just in case.. where can we buy that?
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Hindi pa masyadong kalat dahil bago pa lang, pero aggressive ang distributor nito kaya expect to see it in many retail shops in the coming months. In the meantime, if you're in the Marikina area, meron sa Scholar Enterprises, 187 Shoe Ave., Marikina City.
Hindi naman mahal dahil ususal price ito ng mga mid-quality branded discs.
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Guys i am looking for those 80mm DVD-R disc that you use in the new dvd camcorders. Mahal kasi yung mga original na dvd-r's. I am looking for something parang generic lang. I tried asking sa CDR king pero wala daw sila noon. Do you guys know of any place selling cheap 80mm DVD-R/RW?
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DVD-R Media is highly dependent on the DVD-Writer. Ive had a 2yr relationship with a NuTech DVD-Writer, and it wasnt so sweet, put it this way I never bothered to write DVD discs, too many coasters no matter what kind of DVD-Rs I used. Some Success never 100% reliable even with the expensive DVD-Rs. It finally gave up on me, (couldnt read blank DVD-Rs anymore) so I ran off to buy a BENQ 1640
whoa I'm loving it now! I haven't stopped backing up files and videos yet! Got it yesterday, so far burned 13 DVD-Rs no Coasters yet! The Beauty of this baby is that it has a self learning write strategy for unsupported DVDs and stores them on the eprom. Plus Solidburn and Overspeed.
Leaving Solidburn and Overspeed on, its a no brainer. The drive will test the Disc to what speed it would be most efficient on. Just leave nero on max speed (16x) and Solidburn and Overspeed will determine the proper speed and laser intensity depending on the disc.
If your DVD can burn faster than its rated speed it will, and vise versa. So if you have a poor quality DVD-R the drive will write with the most compatible write speed. If you have a high quality disc, then it will burn faster than rated speed. All insuring a quality burn.
Burned 11 Fortis DVD-Rs these are 4x discs and took quite a while to burn full DVD-Rs = Ave time 16 Min
Burned 2 Imation Titanium 8x discs and these were fast = Ave 6 Min (forgot how much these were, but definately be getting some more!)
I guess the Titatanums are good since they burned way faster than the Fortis. I'll be testing the Philips DVD-R 8X later on some DVD rips and see how fast it will go.
I have yet to test it with the CDR-King Premium Discs (the green ones) and see how fast they go.
I believe I can throw any DVD-R/+R at this drive and it will still do a quality burn!
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Thanks for sharing that very useful info, sir jpadua. BenQ na ang next writer ko pag bumigay ang Lite-On ko.
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Update
Philips DVD-R 8x, Time about 7min for a 4.1GB data disc
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ask ko lang.. meron pa bang moon and stars na DVD?
di na ako pumupunta ng labas eh.. kung meron saan pa ba meron?
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ask ko lang.. meron pa bang moon and stars na DVD?
di na ako pumupunta ng labas eh.. kung meron saan pa ba meron?
kakabili ko lang nung weekend. sa CDR-King pa din.
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kakabili ko lang nung weekend. sa CDR-King pa din.
ano pong branch ka bumili?
and how much ? 7 parin?
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Alabang Town Center branch. Yup, 7 pa din.
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Anybody here have the LG GSA-4167B burner? In your experience, what's the best DVD media to use with this drive? If possible, ones that are available in CDR King. I burn mostly data backup and DivX files onto the DVDs. I don't do much DVD authoring. Thanks.
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I have that model. As experienced, HP and Phillips (P20 each) are good brands but Ridata (P20 each) is poor one. For low cost media, etop is the best among brands I tested (out of stock). Premium (P11) and Azul (P14) are good for me but not good enough as HP and Phillips.
Star and moon is not quality media (Cyclic redundancy error when you write a data and other back-ups) Parang nag-back-up ka pero walang silbi. Pag ginamit mo na, useless din kc sira ang files na nai-burn. Don't know sa ibang burner.
Buti nalang meron ako etop na ginamit kong pang back-up sa almost 15thou mp3 files ko at demo disk namin hehehe :D
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I have that model. As experienced, HP and Phillips (P20 each) are good brands but Ridata (P20 each) is poor one. For low cost media, etop is the best among brands I tested (out of stock). Premium (P11) and Azul (P14) are good for me but not good enough as HP and Phillips.
Star and moon is not quality media (Cyclic redundancy error when you write a data and other back-ups) Parang nag-back-up ka pero walang silbi. Pag ginamit mo na, useless din kc sira ang files na nai-burn. Don't know sa ibang burner.
Buti nalang meron ako etop na ginamit kong pang back-up sa almost 15thou mp3 files ko at demo disk namin hehehe :D
ive been using LG 4167B DL10 firmware
gamit ko moon and star..
e ok naman sa akin.. i burned lots of movies 400 to 600 mb file
minsan nasisira dahil bulok ung dvd.
pero 2 out of 100 naman ung nasira.. eh di ba sulit un?
i re verify on nero.. e ok nman.. so un parati buy ko
pero i dont know if it will last..
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Ok lang siguro sa movies pero sabi ko nga, pag sa back-ups ng mga files palpak.
Sa movies kasi, karamihan sa nga player may error correction so smooth pa rin ang play nya.
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Ok lang siguro sa movies pero sabi ko nga, pag sa back-ups ng mga files palpak.
Sa movies kasi, karamihan sa nga player may error correction so smooth pa rin ang play nya.
eh mpg files po yun.. and im not playing those on dvd players..
backup ko din un.. ive been using dvd rom to read those files and copy back to my pc..
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I have that model. As experienced, HP and Phillips (P20 each) are good brands but Ridata (P20 each) is poor one. For low cost media, etop is the best among brands I tested (out of stock). Premium (P11) and Azul (P14) are good for me but not good enough as HP and Phillips.
Star and moon is not quality media (Cyclic redundancy error when you write a data and other back-ups) Parang nag-back-up ka pero walang silbi. Pag ginamit mo na, useless din kc sira ang files na nai-burn. Don't know sa ibang burner.
Buti nalang meron ako etop na ginamit kong pang back-up sa almost 15thou mp3 files ko at demo disk namin hehehe :D
@Blu-Ray,
bro, ano itsura nung Philips and HP na DVD-R sa CD-R King? just want to make sure i get the right ones. yung na-try ko palang kasi ay yung Ridata DVD-R (green) pati yung Imation Titanium DVD+R, both 20 pesos. parehong palpak sa data (ginamitan ko ng DVDSig). kakainis.
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yes stay clear of ridata green discs super palpak niyan! ewan lang sa ibang burner but for lg..pangit siya..
moon and stars... i agree after watching it or using it ilan times, nag-dedegrade siya in quality hanggang maka kuha ka ng cyclic redundancy error.. tapon na! kapag liteon ka naman it wont burn..or weird siya.. may rings.. same goes with all the P7 nanya cdrking dvd-rs
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Just visited CDR-King Podium yesterday and found out that the iomega 8X DVD-Rs and +Rs have dropped to Php16 each. Not a bad deal for those who've come to rely on this brand/media code combination (AE1 for DVD-R).
Also, they have a new shipment of eTop -Rs and +Rs for Php9 each. These don't look like the old eTops so has anyone tried them yet and verified the media code?
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yes stay clear of ridata green discs super palpak niyan! ewan lang sa ibang burner but for lg..pangit siya..
moon and stars... i agree after watching it or using it ilan times, nag-dedegrade siya in quality hanggang maka kuha ka ng cyclic redundancy error.. tapon na! kapag liteon ka naman it wont burn..or weird siya.. may rings.. same goes with all the P7 nanya cdrking dvd-rs
same also.. ridata pag data pumapalpak.. lalo na pag iso ung mga files..
and how about moon and star..
wird.. ive been backuping videos using this media.. then? one of the file galing sa vcd .. id copied vcd to HDD
then.. pag burn ko uli sa cd ung .dat na file nya.. error and sira ung image..
when i tried to reencode the file gumana na ung cd..
wird.. but havent found any crc error at that media after verifying it..
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Just visited CDR-King Podium yesterday and found out that the iomega 8X DVD-Rs and +Rs have dropped to Php16 each. Not a bad deal for those who've come to rely on this brand/media code combination (AE1 for DVD-R).
Ingat sa Iomega. I was a former Iomega fan. Start muna ako sa 3 pieces -R, maganda ang performance (CMC MAG.AF1), so 10 pieces na every time I buy. Last purchase ko was Iomega -R 16x. Tiwala na kasi, so 25 pieces -R na ang kinuha ko. However, performance was bad on my Lite-on burner.
Bakit naiba ang quality? Check ko ang MID -- iba na pala: "ProdiscFO2". Ayoko na ng Iomega ngayon.
The best I've tried is Verbatim DVD-R (Mitsubishi Chem. Corp. MCC 01RG20) Isa lang ang nakikita kong retailer, sa Greenhills carpark.
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Ingat sa Iomega. I was a former Iomega fan. Start muna ako sa 3 pieces -R, maganda ang performance (CMC MAG.AF1), so 10 pieces na every time I buy. Last purchase ko was Iomega -R 16x. Tiwala na kasi, so 25 pieces -R na ang kinuha ko. However, performance was bad on my Lite-on burner.
Bakit naiba ang quality? Check ko ang MID -- iba na pala: "ProdiscFO2". Ayoko na ng Iomega ngayon.
The best I've tried is Verbatim DVD-R (Mitsubishi Chem. Corp. MCC 01RG20) Isa lang ang nakikita kong retailer, sa Greenhills carpark.
magkano ung verbatim na yan? teka sa crystal cdr world ba yan?
paanong bad performance sa liteon mo? crc error na ba?
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Verbatim - P25 each. (Mahal pa rin kahit high quality, considering na 4x lang).
Retailer's name - Datamax.
Performance ng Iomega 16x (ProdiscFO2) sa Lite-On - Around 30% coasters; nagha-hang ang write. Humihinto na lang ang burn.
Hindi ako bumibili ng ultra-cheap discs. Kahit OK nga ang burn, malay naman natin kung gaano katagal ang buhay ng data. Nonsense naman magpakapagod sa rip, compress and burn kung masisira din pala after some time.
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Yup, never had a good experience with Prodisc either but I haven't tried their 16x DVD-Rs since my Pioneer burner only does 8x. I looked up the F02s though and the best that people can burn with the media seems to be 8x to 12x with firmware upgrades.
That said, I've never had a problem with the iomega CMC AE1s which are rated at 8x. I burn at 6x just to be safe and I've never burned a coaster.
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Unique Disc Identifier : [DVD-R:CMC MAG. AE1]
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Disc & Book Type : [DVD-R] - [DVD-R]
Manufacturer Name : [CMC Magnetics Corp.]
Manufacturer ID : [CMC MAG. AE1]
Blank Disc Capacity : [2,298,496 Sectors = 4.71 GB (4.38 GiB)]
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That's good, sir. It seems that the I.D. for the Iomega -R, 8x, is still CMC MAG.
Yung Iomega -R, 16x, ko (Prodisc) was burned at 4x, sometimes 8x lang, pero parehong palpak. When I downgraded from the latest Lite-On firmware to the old stock firmware, nag-improve, but still unsatisfactory.
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just went to r king
then.. wala na palang moon and star.
replacement?
printable dvd.. also nanya jc001
pero iba ung extended info nya
and what about nba dvds?
anyone tried that one?
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i would guess the nba's are tyg02's.. same as the "premium" kaso not so reliable ito..hay mag branded na lang tayo.. lalong doble gastos dito sa cheap discs..
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i would guess the nba's are tyg02's.. same as the "premium" kaso not so reliable ito..hay mag branded na lang tayo.. lalong doble gastos dito sa cheap discs..
and how about the orange disc? ung tig 8 each..
ano media code non?
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same tyg02.. pero may iba DM ata or DN something like that....some dvd players do not like this lalo na mga LG, daewoo and hyundai..maybe its the chip these korean players use
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same tyg02.. pero may iba DM ata or DN something like that....some dvd players do not like this lalo na mga LG, daewoo and hyundai..maybe its the chip these korean players use
where can we see that DM or DN na sinasabi mo?
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kasi yung orange bear paw iba iba ang brand pinatungan lang...karamihan sa kanila ang code tyg02 pero may isa dm or dn..i think the brand underneath is spacetech or something to that effect (makikita mo naman manipis lang yung orange coating)..pasensya na isa lang yung nabili kong ganon eh lahat tyg02 na ang code na natira sa akin napamigay ko na so i cant check again
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kasi yung orange bear paw iba iba ang brand pinatungan lang...karamihan sa kanila ang code tyg02 pero may isa dm or dn..i think the brand underneath is spacetech or something to that effect (makikita mo naman manipis lang yung orange coating)..pasensya na isa lang yung nabili kong ganon eh lahat tyg02 na ang code na natira sa akin napamigay ko na so i cant check again
many thnx for that info... pero may bago din ako na notice na dvd.. its 6 each..
branded cya.. pero nakalimutan ko ung tatak
description niya.. parang medyo silver tapos may brand na blue ang font color..
has anyone tried this?
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di ko pa nakita yan tig-p6 pero sa presyo pa lang delikado na ehehehe
but we'll never know...unless someone tries it
anyway just an update on these orange discs.. yung iba nito sumasabit or sumasayad sa tray parang malaki siya or something tapos it would make very loud and scary sayad sounds (parang sasabog yung writer..ahahaaha).. mag lead in siya pero mag e-error.. sayang na naman.. also its not P8 but P9..
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di ko pa nakita yan tig-p6 pero sa presyo pa lang delikado na ehehehe
but we'll never know...unless someone tries it
anyway just an update on these orange discs.. yung iba nito sumasabit or sumasayad sa tray parang malaki siya or something tapos it would make very loud and scary sayad sounds (parang sasabog yung writer..ahahaaha).. mag lead in siya pero mag e-error.. sayang na naman.. also its not P8 but P9..
damn.. edi mahal cya.. dapat may printable dvd na lang ako.. its also the nanya jc001 stuff..
pero iba nga lng ung extended info nya..
had tried this using lg 41 67
so far ok naman.. pero i dont know if it will last
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same tayo lg, i also have liteon kaso i dont use it much kasi di siya compatible sa nanya.. and lg does better burns in general
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DVD-R Media is highly dependent on the DVD-Writer. Ive had a 2yr relationship with a NuTech DVD-Writer, and it wasnt so sweet, put it this way I never bothered to write DVD discs, too many coasters no matter what kind of DVD-Rs I used. Some Success never 100% reliable even with the expensive DVD-Rs. It finally gave up on me, (couldnt read blank DVD-Rs anymore) so I ran off to buy a BENQ 1640
whoa I'm loving it now! I haven't stopped backing up files and videos yet! Got it yesterday, so far burned 13 DVD-Rs no Coasters yet! The Beauty of this baby is that it has a self learning write strategy for unsupported DVDs and stores them on the eprom. Plus Solidburn and Overspeed.
Leaving Solidburn and Overspeed on, its a no brainer. The drive will test the Disc to what speed it would be most efficient on. Just leave nero on max speed (16x) and Solidburn and Overspeed will determine the proper speed and laser intensity depending on the disc.
If your DVD can burn faster than its rated speed it will, and vise versa. So if you have a poor quality DVD-R the drive will write with the most compatible write speed. If you have a high quality disc, then it will burn faster than rated speed. All insuring a quality burn.
Burned 11 Fortis DVD-Rs these are 4x discs and took quite a while to burn full DVD-Rs = Ave time 16 Min
Burned 2 Imation Titanium 8x discs and these were fast = Ave 6 Min (forgot how much these were, but definately be getting some more!)
I guess the Titatanums are good since they burned way faster than the Fortis. I'll be testing the Philips DVD-R 8X later on some DVD rips and see how fast it will go.
I have yet to test it with the CDR-King Premium Discs (the green ones) and see how fast they go.
I believe I can throw any DVD-R/+R at this drive and it will still do a quality burn!
i'm checking the market for a DVD recorder and so far my 2 lead choices are SONY (DRU-810a) and BENQ (1640 or the 1625, cause i would LOVE to have one that supports lightscribe ... i'm also looking out for the 1655 tho... hopefully, i can find one. the specs were just that impressive.)
anyone care to make suggestions... especially on which writer has the best compatibility with all these media?
thanks. (sorry, i know it's a little off topic but jpadua's post got me thinking. :P)
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for dvd media sourced from cdr king ..my best writer has been the Nec 3500 .. (compared w/ old liteon , pioneed dvr108 and benq 1640) its been great w/ ridata , and cmc media ( iomega ,hp,philips,imation) and some of the other medias but at lower speed.
I prefer dvd-r due to compatibility , but most of the time write times are a little slower than +r around 2 mins differnence on 8x speeds...
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for dvd media sourced from cdr king ..my best writer has been the Nec 3500 .. (compared w/ old liteon , pioneed dvr108 and benq 1640) its been great w/ ridata , and cmc media ( iomega ,hp,philips,imation) and some of the other medias but at lower speed.
I prefer dvd-r due to compatibility , but most of the time write times are a little slower than +r around 2 mins differnence on 8x speeds...
nice... i cal live with the 2 mins difference (i still write on CD-Rs at 4x. LOL.)... where are these NECs available? do they also write on DVD+/-R DLs?
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I had to get my NEC from HK , you can try tipidpc , an alternate is the DVR 110 from pioneer , they use the same chipset , but i think Nec firmware is better , they they write DL but personally I have not tested .. too expensive if i make a coaster
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Another updates about the DVD-s
DVD+R = Cdr-king bear / Etop orange
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : TYG02
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707321856 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 66 78 80 00 - [email protected]..
0010 - 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TYG02..........
0020 - 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 58 DD 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - ...""...X......|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x..|....q..|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w........0...
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 90 DD 05 00 40 00 01 00 - ....0.......@...
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 98 DC 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 10 DE 05 00 - ........N.N.....
comments = ha? paano naging etop ung cdrking? nagpapagawa cla sa etop?
DVD+R = Cdr-king NBA miami heat
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : Verbatim
MID : MCC 003 (000)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X - 8.0 X - 12 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - .........&.?....
0010 - 00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 30 33 00 38 - ...MCC.....003.8
0020 - 23 54 37 15 02 52 6C 02 B4 63 15 15 0B 0A 08 08 - #T7..Rl..c......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 31 5F 1C 06 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 - ..88.1_...#.....
0050 - 00 00 02 31 5F 1C 06 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00 - ...1_...#.......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 2F 63 67 20 14 0B 0B 01 20 00 00 - ..Tp./cg........
0070 - 00 00 02 43 63 67 20 14 0B 0B 01 20 00 00 00 36 - ...Ccg.........6
comments= verbatim?
both sold at 9 each.. parang tumaas na yata dvd today..
but fortis got lower again at 10 each => e bulok ito e..
burn comments? later.. di ko pa nasusubukan.. just giving u up to date updates..
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both of them are good.. but still wont work in my player... saan na ba yang moon and star na yan kailangan ko na.. im using old dvd player sony..
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an update.. NBA portland trail blazer white DVD-r
MID
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD-ROM
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : YUDEN000 T02 (000)
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X - 8.0 X - 12 X
Blank Capacity : n/a
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Closed
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - 01 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 0A 8A 0F 00 00 00 00 - ................
0010 - 00 00 03 59 55 44 45 4E 30 30 30 54 30 32 00 38 - ...YUDEN000T02.8
0020 - 23 54 37 10 02 4E 72 02 8C 63 16 16 0B 0B 0A 0A - #T7..Nr..c......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 - ..88.4c.."".....
0050 - 00 00 02 34 63 13 05 22 22 10 0E 12 12 01 00 00 - ...4c.."".......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 4E 64 4A 20 11 08 08 01 18 00 00 - ..Tp.NdJ........
0070 - 00 00 02 67 64 4E 20 10 08 08 01 18 00 00 00 30 - ...gdN.........0
comments.. no defects when burning.. but still doesnt accept my old player sony.. ayaw parin magplay..
UPDATE:
argg sumablay na tong disc once out of 8.. cannot perform finalizing disc daw.. ano ba to..
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DVD-R = Dog design blue
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : TYG02
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4488 MB
: 4706076672 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 87 0D 10 66 78 80 00 - [email protected]..
0010 - 03 54 59 47 30 32 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - .TYG02..........
0020 - 05 AA A2 22 22 20 02 00 40 D4 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - ...""...@......|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x..|....q..|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w........0...
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 78 D4 05 00 40 00 01 00 - ....0...x...@...
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 80 D3 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 F8 D4 05 00 - ........N.N.....
havent tested yet.. no comment..
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PHILIPS DVD-R (from CDR King)
Manufacturer - CMC
Media code - CMC MAG. AE1
Physical description - Silver with violet print
Max. burn speed - 8x; Actually burned at 8x
Nero CD-DVD Speed ScanDisc Test - No read errors
Test platforms - Lite-On SOHD 16P9SV and Pioneer 270 standalone
Notes: Spec printed on the disc is "1-8x"; yet my Lite-on SOHW-1653S writer indicates max speed as "12x"
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Question, accurate ba yung pag-check if i use software that checks md5s and hashes to verify the data burned on a disc (e.g. DVDSig, CD Check, etc.)? Napapansin ko kasi laging may incorrect hash pag ginamit ko ang mga 'to to verify data integrity on a disc. mga AVIs usually ang binuburn ko. pero wala naman error habang binuburn.
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Question lang mga tsiong.. bakit puros product na lng ng cdrking ang binibigyan natin ng review..
wla na bang ibang dvd na galing sa ibang shops? pls post naman ibang dvd
malay mo maganda din ung iba.. kahit papano cheap..
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CDR-King seemingly is flooded with alot of Ridata DVD-R this days, they even have the printable going for only 18Php. ;)
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PHILIPS DVD-R (from CDR King)
Manufacturer - CMC
Media code - CMC MAG. AE1
Physical description - Silver with violet print
Max. burn speed - 8x; Actually burned at 8x
Nero CD-DVD Speed ScanDisc Test - No read errors
Test platforms - Lite-On SOHD 16P9SV and Pioneer 270 standalone
Notes: Spec printed on the disc is "1-8x"; yet my Lite-on SOHW-1653S writer indicates max speed as "12x"
My Toshiba SDR 5372 used to love this but not anymore :-\
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CDR-King seemingly is flooded with alot of Ridata DVD-R this days, they even have the printable going for only 18Php. ;)
i guess may quota sila dyan.. or official distributor talaga sila nito..
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My Toshiba SDR 5372 used to love this but not anymore :-\
is it a drive issue or did philips change manufacturers? i noticed that HP, philips and iomega all use CMC as their manufacturer for dvd-r's.
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CDR-King seemingly is flooded with alot of Ridata DVD-R this days, they even have the printable going for only 18Php. ;)
my lite-on seems to love these ritek dvd-r and dvd+r media. :P
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My Lite-on loves Riteks, too.
However, I had to switch to other brands because readability on standalone players is inconsistent.
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My Lite-on loves Riteks, too.
However, I had to switch to other brands because readability on standalone players is inconsistent.
strange... i've never had problems with mine. of course, if it's an archive... i never burn faster than 6x.
still, no ritek coasters or faulty reads on standalone players... so far. :-\
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Anyone tried Vio DVD-R 8x from cdr king? bought 20 pcs and works fine so far. 9 pesos/pc only.
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Anyone tried Vio DVD-R 8x from cdr king? bought 20 pcs and works fine so far. 9 pesos/pc only.
Vio ang brand ng DVD? never heard from that one..
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^^ just bought a few of these... yup 9 bucks a piece and selling fast... barely a week since delivery, 600 pieces has dwindled to it's final hundred.
and apparently... "it's a sony"... ;)
from nero cd-dvd speed:
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : SONY08D1
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4488 MB
: 4706076672 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0E 10 87 88 80 00 - [email protected].........
0010 - 03 53 4F 4E 59 30 38 00 04 44 31 00 00 00 00 00 - .SONY08..D1.....
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 E0 D4 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - ...............|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x..|....q..|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w........0...
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 18 D5 05 00 40 00 01 00 - ....0.......@...
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 20 D4 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 98 D5 05 00 - ........N.N.....
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Medyo OT, pero I was able to get a bootleg Naruto movie that was burned into this "Vio" DVD-R and it played flawlessly, even if the burn was almost near the edge of the allowed burn area. Comparing these with other anime DVD-Rs I've bought, wala man lang palya tiong pag play nitong "Vio" media.
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^^ dang! you're makin me wish i bought more.
LOL. that's great! any chance kaya we can find out what burned it? was the content burned as DVD-Video? TIA. ;D
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can somebody put screen shots dito.. para makita namin kung ano itsura?
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^^
nothing to see even with a screenshot... it's pure white with the words "ViO" (yes. small case italics yung "i") and "DVD-R8X" in the center ring.
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i went to cdr king megamall. wanted to buy some more vio but wala na. meron sila Rowan ang pangalan, same white color like the Vio. bought some and burnt one pc. same daw as Vio acc. to saleslady. 9 pesos each din.
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any chance you can post who manufactured "rowan"? sony rin kaya?
i'm hoping may maabutan pa ako sa CDR-King Outlets near our place (there are 3 or 4 na ata.) maybe 5 or 10 na para lang mapuno yung empty cakebox ko. LOL. :P
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i went back to CD-R King today... and sadly, only 7 pieces of ViO 8x DVD-Rs were left... only 4 of which were "decent" (not pristine... pero kinuha ko na rin. sayang eh.)
they do, however, have new ViO 8x DVD+Rs... i bought 11 pieces... trial lang... unfortunately, hindi na siya sony .. Daxon na. (altho... daxon din ata gumagawa nung sony discs... not 100% sure about this tho.) anyway... here's what nero gave me.
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : Daxon
MID : DAXON AZ2 (000)
Write speeds: : 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - .........&.?....
0010 - 00 00 03 44 41 58 4F 4E 00 00 00 41 5A 32 00 38 - ...DAXON...AZ2.8
0020 - 23 54 37 11 00 56 71 00 BE 6B 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 - #T7..Vq..k......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 00 29 60 38 06 30 22 10 08 20 1C 01 - ..88.)`8.0".....
0050 - 00 00 00 29 60 38 06 30 22 10 08 20 1C 01 00 00 - ...)`8.0".......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 40 64 4A 22 15 0A 09 01 20 00 00 - ..Tp.@dJ".......
0070 - 00 00 02 51 64 46 22 14 08 08 01 20 00 00 00 28 - ...QdF"........(
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Below is the scan of the "rowan" dvd-r, scanned the disc with a benq 1640 and you would notice na pwede sya hanggang 16x. I have tried to scan it with benq's qsuite and ok ang pag write nya on 8x speed.
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : SONY08D1
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707321856 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0E 10 87 88 80 00 - [email protected].........
0010 - 03 53 4F 4E 59 30 38 00 04 44 31 00 00 00 00 00 - .SONY08..D1.....
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 E4 70 05 00 35 8E 41 77 - .........p..5.Aw
0030 - 04 00 00 00 DC 70 05 00 10 C0 D4 77 00 80 00 00 - .....p.....w....
0040 - FC 70 05 00 55 3F 41 77 00 80 00 00 86 03 7B 00 - .p..U?Aw......{.
0050 - FC FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 28 71 05 00 00 00 15 00 - ........(q......
0060 - 32 07 91 7C 0B 00 00 00 98 08 15 00 00 00 15 00 - 2..|............
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^^
maganda rin pala... i asked the saleslady about rowan, and she seemed clueless about it. i guess their stocks of it hasn't reached them yet. sayang nga eh. i wanted to try it too. ;D
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i was looking for the "vio" brand first kaso wala ng stock and pinakita sa akin nung saleslady yung "rowan". hesitant ako nung una so i only got 10 pieces, tapos ok pala, sana meron pa pagbalik ko
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^^
let us know if you succesfully burn at 16x... i've never tried it... heh heh. :P
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i tried to scan it with qsuite and it is not possible to write at that speeds without having errors. but i have successful burns at 8x speeds at 16x medias compared to 8x ones (i'm talking about those dvdrs that are P12 below). ;D
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Sorry, if medyo not related to the topic at hand...
But why do more people use DVD-R media? I thought that DVD+R is supposed to be the better media (albeit slightly only) compared to DVD-R?
So far I've been trying to use DVD+R media mostly (I bought a few DVD-R but haven't been using those types lately).
Is it because DVD-R is supposed to be more compatible with set-top DVD players than DVD+R disks?
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BTW, aside from CDR-King, there's also a new CD/DVD blank media shop called Datamax (the one I saw is in SM San Lazaro), their prices are quite competitive with CDR-King's too. They have the "Titanium ("Made by Imation") DVD-R 8x, costs Php18.00 and also "Imation i-Pro" DVD-R 16x @Php18.00 too. Haven't tried burning them yet (I bought a couple of pcs only).
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Is it because DVD-R is supposed to be more compatible with set-top DVD players than DVD+R disks?
yes... that's one of the primary reasons. dvd-rs are more compatible with most set-top dvd players. ;) i know there was a thread somewhere where firewired himself explained the technical differences between the +R and -R formats (could even be this one. LOL.)... might want to check that out.
BTW, aside from CDR-King, there's also a new CD/DVD blank media shop called Datamax (the one I saw is in SM San Lazaro), their prices are quite competitive with CDR-King's too. They have the "Titanium ("Made by Imation") DVD-R 8x, costs Php18.00 and also "Imation i-Pro" DVD-R 16x @Php18.00 too. Haven't tried burning them yet (I bought a couple of pcs only).
yup... saw them too... i wanted to go in and check but i was in a bit of a rush and i had already bought what i needed at CD-R King. maybe when i go there next time, i can check it out. would you happen to know if they have dual layer media?
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Though, I also use Maxell +RW . Two of my players can't play it. And two disc from a bulk of 15 are defective. >:( But hasn't encountered any problems with my 40 different brand -RWs.
BTW, Are there any -R DL available? +R DL pa lang kasi ang napapansin ko.
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Yun' Vio...Rowan sa CDR KIng sa Katipunan...Marvo sa Gilmore..at SONY08D1....burn sa 8x...walang mintis..galing. ;D ;D ;D
OT; may bagong CDR King na bukas sa Broadway Centrum Cybertown same prices, at mayroon nang
1) 8 discs DVD cases transparent at 15 Php
2) 6 discs DVD cases black at 8 Php
3) 4 discs DVD cases black at 8 Php
Ok na OK ito' para sa mga na split (DVDFAB) titles natin. ;D ;D ;D
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eh ung garfield na dvd.. may nakatry na nito?
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GARFIELD DVD +R
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : SONY D21 (000)
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X - 8.0 X - 12 X - 12.0 X - 16 X - 16.0 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X - 16 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - .........&.?....
0010 - 00 00 07 53 4F 4E 59 00 00 00 00 44 32 31 00 38 - ...SONY....D21.8
0020 - 23 54 37 14 00 28 6E 00 80 69 17 19 0C 0C 0A 0B - #T7..(n..i......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 00 20 61 24 0B 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 - ..88..a$..#.....
0050 - 00 00 00 20 61 24 0B 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00 - ....a$..#.......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 00 25 66 6A 20 13 0C 0A 01 18 00 00 - ..Tp.%fj........
0070 - 00 00 00 36 61 6A 20 13 0C 0A 01 18 00 00 00 3A - ...6aj.........:
0080 - 03 00 54 DF 00 25 66 6A 20 13 0C 0A 01 18 00 00 - ..T..%fj........
0090 - 00 00 00 60 5F 85 20 12 0A 0A 01 20 00 00 00 5A - ...`_..........Z
any comments?
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interesting... sony din siya.
how's the write quality? okay ba?
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un nga di ko nga alam since i havent used them yet..
pero 11 sya.. quite expensive.. than the generic whites..
actually konti na lang dvd talaga nila..
is there any shops can provide more dvds?
sawang sawa na ako sa ugali nilang nagpapalit ng dvd everytime pag naubusan ng stocks..
ang available nilang dvd
garfiled 11
generic white 9
mickey 10
imation 14
richo 20
verbatim.. 20
actually un na lang at parang wla na silang ridata pa..
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GARFIELD DVD +R
Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : SONY D21 (000)
Write speeds: : 4 X - 8 X - 8.0 X - 12 X - 12.0 X - 16 X - 16.0 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X - 16 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - .........&.?....
0010 - 00 00 07 53 4F 4E 59 00 00 00 00 44 32 31 00 38 - ...SONY....D21.8
0020 - 23 54 37 14 00 28 6E 00 80 69 17 19 0C 0C 0A 0B - #T7..(n..i......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0B 0B 0E 0F 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 00 20 61 24 0B 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 - ..88..a$..#.....
0050 - 00 00 00 20 61 24 0B 2E 23 10 04 1E 1D 01 00 00 - ....a$..#.......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 00 25 66 6A 20 13 0C 0A 01 18 00 00 - ..Tp.%fj........
0070 - 00 00 00 36 61 6A 20 13 0C 0A 01 18 00 00 00 3A - ...6aj.........:
0080 - 03 00 54 DF 00 25 66 6A 20 13 0C 0A 01 18 00 00 - ..T..%fj........
0090 - 00 00 00 60 5F 85 20 12 0A 0A 01 20 00 00 00 5A - ...`_..........Z
any comments?
I think this should be in the DVD+R thread. ;) Hehehe....
I tried the DVD-R variant, yup, Sony rin siya and my BenQ 1640 likes them. No coasters and good quality burn. BTW, they are rated as 16x against the plain white DVD-R's which are rated 8x. Thus, I guess justifies the Php2 premium.
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un nga di ko nga alam since i havent used them yet..
pero 11 sya.. quite expensive.. than the generic whites..
actually konti na lang dvd talaga nila..
is there any shops can provide more dvds?
sawang sawa na ako sa ugali nilang nagpapalit ng dvd everytime pag naubusan ng stocks..
ang available nilang dvd
garfiled 11
generic white 9
mickey 10
imation 14
richo 20
verbatim.. 20
actually un na lang at parang wla na silang ridata pa..
Meron n ulit dvdr ridata at cdrking greenhills, it was out of stock for quite a time....... ;)
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yay! hopefully kakalat na rin sa other branches!
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Meron n ulit dvdr ridata at cdrking greenhills, it was out of stock for quite a time....... ;)
ah eh.. kahit meron naman.. mahal din e.. 16 each?
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didn't the price go down na?... parang 11 each na lang before.
i dunno why... but i so TRUST this brand. LOL.
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didn't the price go down na?... parang 11 each na lang before.
i dunno why... but i so TRUST this brand. LOL.
I bought some (Ridata) about a month ago at CDRKing SM Pampanga @ P16 each. Pagbalik ko after a week, wala na.
I also tried using Garfield (white) DVD(+)R 16X for a friend, burned at 16X okay naman. Sa lima, walang pumalpak kahit isa.
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saw IOMEGA dvd-r in sm mega. 14 each
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saw IOMEGA dvd-r in sm mega. 14 each
yes iomega bumaba na ung price 14 each..
could somebody check its MID?
tingnan natin kung sino gumawa. baka prodisc nanaman yan.
and also our budget on dvd is 10 below... hay 11 na nga nabili ko e.
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guys, what do you think of maxell, ricoh and tdk mini scratchproof (gold) (manufacturer: tdk, mid: tdk G02000000)?
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is there any 'reading scans for dummies' thread here? im a lil clueless in reading disc scans...hanggang disc info lang ang kaya kong basahin lol
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DVD pang video.. may recomendation ba kayo? help naman...
as of now garfield gamit ko..
pero baka mawala nanaman stocks nyan e..
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vio.... may peke ata kasi after burning (video) ok pero my episodes na error then sira na 4x pa nga gamit ko. cylindrical error sumthing. halos lahat pag tumagal sira na. 15 bili ko hir baguio... ala cdrking e pero dun din galing...
ngaun gamit ko C3 E&CH. bili ko P9.50, mga 30 na nagamit ko and wala pa nmang nasisira...
aku man di k rin alam and difference bet -R and +R....
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guys ok ba hp at verbatim? salamat!
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may problema ba verbatim at hp dvds sa standalone players? salamat po
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HP - May problema sa standalone. Sometimes unreadable on an old Pioneer player.
Verbatim - No problems whatsoever. It's the best I've tried.
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salamat bro!
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also be wary of the gd025 white discs...medyo iffy ang quality.. kahit walang noticable physical damage nag-eerror ito while burning siguro success rate ko dito about 65%-70% lang.. ok kaya yung mga bagong disney?
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I don't know if this link was posted or if it might help:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
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I don't know if this link was posted or if it might help:
http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm
Thanks for the link! Very informative and useful. I've checked my DVD-R and DVD+R discs and I've found out that my generic CDR-King discs are of good quality and relatively reliable. Tapos, I've also discovered that buying branded discs is not an assurance that these are reliable. I found out that the Iomega discs which I recently bought are among the list of 3rd Class Media discs.
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Thanks for the link! Very informative and useful. I've checked my DVD-R and DVD+R discs and I've found out that my generic CDR-King discs are of good quality and relatively reliable. Tapos, I've also discovered that buying branded discs are an assurance that these are reliable. I found out that the Iomega discs which I recently bought are among the list of 3rd Class Media discs.
Can you post the manufacturer code of your Iomega discs? Thanks.
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Thanks for the link! Very informative and useful. I've checked my DVD-R and DVD+R discs and I've found out that my generic CDR-King discs are of good quality and relatively reliable. Tapos, I've also discovered that buying branded discs is not an assurance that these are reliable. I found out that the Iomega discs which I recently bought are among the list of 3rd Class Media discs.
Can you post the manufacturer code of your Iomega discs? Thanks.
It's CMC MAG AE1. Actually, when I checked the list again, it's among the 4th Class Media list, while my Philips DVD+R (with manufacturer code CMC MAG.E01) is among the 3rd Class Media list. I initially thought that the branded DVDs are better than the CDR King generic discs -- turned out to be the other way around.
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Depends actually. As the article states, except for a few exceptions, none of the major brands actually manufacture their own discs anymore preferring to outsource them to bulk manufacturers like CMC and Ritek.
The way it was explained to me by a rep of one of the smaller Taiwanese manufacturers, there are quality grades across media lines. So if your disc's media code is CMC MAG for example, there is a difference between the AE1 sold by IOMEGA and the bulk quantity white top AE1. The branded version is probably a Grade A disc while the generic stuff could very well be Grade B or Grade C products so performance will definitely vary. I can't verify what he said though because he was trying to get me to order bulk from him. ;D
For me, the CDR-King generics are a mixed bunch with some of them failing within 8 to 12 months.
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yun verbatim +r nagamit ko, okay naman sa movies.
pero yun -r, sa pang apat na movie nag skip skip na.
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wala bang affordable na dvd-R dual layer?
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wala bang affordable na dvd-R dual layer?
meron sa cdr king p50.00 , forgot the brand though
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wala bang affordable na dvd-R dual layer?
meron sa cdr king p50.00 , forgot the brand though
Yes, I was able to buy some last March although madalang ang pagbenta nila nito. These are generic dual layer discs with the name of CDR-King on it. Just like any other generic DVD, these discs are not that reliable. Two of the four discs I bought later ended up in the trash can.
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yup!! hindi nga ganung reliable ang dual layer ng cdr-king madalas magloko!!
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Those "CD-R King" dual layered discs are OK and reliable for back-up or data storage purposes of downloaded contents as well as Office files, pics, videos etc. All of the files I placed were burned OK naman on these dual layered discs and accessible when I placed them on another computer's DVD-ROM/RW.
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Those "CD-R King" dual layered discs are OK and reliable for back-up or data storage purposes of downloaded contents as well as Office files, pics, videos etc. All of the files I placed were burned OK naman on these dual layered discs and accessible when I placed them on another computer's DVD-ROM/RW.
Say that in around 2-3 years time. Just don't burn anything on CD-R King-branded discs that you'd want to keep, you'll regret it for sure. The single-layer DVDs are still the most consistent and reliable for backup, I'd only recommend dual-layers for short-term use. And even CD-R King single layer discs crap out after a year or two.
I know it's hard to believe a rookie in the forum, but believe me when I say I've burned more than four times the number of DVDs in the last 5 years than the number of days in those years. Go figure. ;)
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I got some dual-layer DVD's from CD-R King for 35 bucks a pop. One type has a brownish-gray bear disc art (says "Dual Layer") and the other one has a white floral art (says "RW DVD+R DL" and "RW DVD+R DL" ???)
Anyway, I already burned some documentary videos on them and I don't seem to have any problems. Having just tumbled into this thread recently, I decided to inspect these two types of CD-R King Dual Layer DVD's using Roxio's Toast 9 Titanium (which is better than that Japanese DVD Media Inspector app for Mac). Using digitalFAQ.com's table (http://www.digitalfaq.com/media/dvdmedia.htm) as reference, I got the following results:
For both types of DVD artwork:
Manufacturer ID: RITEKD01
Manufacturer: Ritek
Country: Taiwan
Format: DVD+R DL
Notes: Reflectivity and degradation concerns, DL has layer break issues
Rating: 2ND CLASS MEDIA - OKAY DISCS (Mixed quality media, average 75-90% of discs tend to be good. These discs are not suggested for archival data or video masters. These are best suited for data that can be replaced easily, such as secondary backups or data/video distribution. In bulk, these tend to be less expensive than 1ST CLASS media.)
All of the DVD's I made burned successfully, except for about four instances of failed verification. Maybe that's the manifestation of the layer break issues reported for this DVD.
I will ultimately have to transfer the contents to a Blu-Ray disc, once the burner and disc becomes more accessible. The files I put in these CD-R King dual layer DVD's are documentary videos, most of which are not available as retail DVD's. It would be a shame to lose them since they're really good archival and instructional materials.
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A failed verification means it's not a 1:1 copy of the prepared image. As for layer break issues, you can use ImgBurn (windows) - a free and great utility for burning DVD images and does an excellent job at DL media/layer breaks. I use it under VMWare Fusion when I'm using my Mac, or might as well run Bootcamp for safety's sake.
The two DVD+R DL you're referring to are more commonly known by the CD-R King staff as "Bear Double Layer" (yeah, more like 'dobol') or "Vine Dual Layer". I wouldn't trust them even if you paid me enough to buy 10. On the other hand I bought 3xMKM 003 Made in Singapore media (8x Verbatim DVD+R DL) at 120 a pop. Not one problem.
I've been also avoiding Ritek media ever since they've created that horrid G-series dye (RitekG03, G04, G05) for SL DVD-R discs, terrible longevity - had discs degrading to an unreadable mess just a few weeks after burning. And since DL media is less reliable than SL... I stay away from it.
Usually with blank media - you get what you pay for. It might be better for you to use Toast 9's disc-spanning feature to save your raw documentary files on multiple SL DVDs rather than one DL disc that could implode any minute - also much cheaper to do multiple backups. For backup freaks I'd also suggest the use of DVDisaster, a utility that adds ECC data on a disc to help the recovery of its contents when it becomes problematic on playback due to age or physical damage. It's also free. :)
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For DL, I think TDK is OK, too, but it's around PhP 60.
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For DL, I think TDK is OK, too, but it's around PhP 60.
Yes they're ok if you use the right burner - those discs are made by Ritek (Ritek S04-066) and I've used about 50, BUT I'm still unsure about their longevity. I'm checking them every 3 months to make sure ;) So far (after ~5 months of use) they look decent naman. But the burn quality is highly dependent on the burner talaga, unlike Verbatim MKM001/003 2.4x/8x that I could burn on any drive and have no worries.