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Home Theater => Audio => Speakers => Topic started by: wanderlust on Sep 01, 2004 at 03:59 PM
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has anyone elses ahve any experience is getting used speakers from the pier? just like having your surplus amp, surplus cpd...... maybe an all surplus set-up is in order there-after. ;)
well, personally i got my first taste of surplus speakers about 3 weeks ago, a technics bookshelf, SB-3:
(http://www.vintagetechnics.com/images/sb3catalog.jpg)
with the following details:
year released: 81
Design Principle, Enclosure or System Type: Acoustic
Woofer Diameter, in.: 9
Tweeter Type and Diameter, in. : 1.125, disc
Anechoic Frequency Response, Hz to kHz, + dB: 43-35
SPL, 1 Watt/ 1Meter, dB: 87
Impedance,Ohms Nominal/Minimum: 8
Dimensions, Inches (To Nearest Inch)WxDxH: 10x9x18
Net Weight, lbs.: 19
MSRP, US$, Each (Unless noted otherwis): 450.00 pr.
had this while scouting the pier (together with 3 other kwela boys!) for new arrival cdps, which turned out na the week after pa pala ang arrivals. >:(
very impressive ang sound quality, specially for voice and instrument, good imaging capability, and nice condition pa, all parts working, well heck even the grill is intact, no punit :o...... i leave the other views and reviews on this speakers to those who have listened to it na. ::)
special thanks goes to sir BGA_VI, if not for him i wouldnt have gotten this speaker. nice of you to BI me sir. ;D hehehe
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and oh, i almost forgot, here was a floorstander version of this one, but left speaker's tweeter is not functioning, busted na ata. has a deeper bass.... sayang.
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hope i could find surplus diatones sa pier as well
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sir, any other brand ng speaker there? plano ko sana bumili kaso medyo mahigpit ang ekonomiya ng bulsa ko ngayon.. how much po ang bili nyo? thanks in advance... ::)
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punta punta na sir, i heard there are a lot of new arrivals daw this week. si sir j_albert nagpunta na e.
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brands that abound are, yamaha, onkyo, daitone, pioneer, sony, forgot the others..... prices at 2k above, specially the heavy ones. dont forget to haggle though.
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brands that abound are, yamaha, onkyo, daitone, pioneer, sony, forgot the others..... prices at 2k above, specially the heavy ones. dont forget to haggle though.
sir question po ulit, for musi lang po ba or pwede rin for HT?
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we haven't tried it yet bro
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hmmmmm......
havent tried it pa ha, as i have a floorstander which i prefer using than the bookshelf, but my floorstander was designed primarily for music yet it performs well as an HT speaker, yon nga lang ingat ka in placing it near thetv as those speakers are primarily not magnetically shielded. otherwise i dont see any reason why a speaker can not be used for both HT and music.
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wanderlust,
Thanks for letting us borrow your Technics it open option for guys on a budget but don't want to sacrifice good sound.. your speaker reminded me of my old speaker B&W 302 na dapat pala di ko nabenta ;D ;D ;D ;D galing mag image, vocals are smooth and open high are clean but lack bass pero oks lang since bookshelf just pair it sa sub.. tried disco, new wave and pop jazz and your speaker shined ayos din integration nya sa MS sub ni Sir akyat. :D :D :D
Hope makahanap din ako... type ko yun yamaha.. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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hans,
kunin mo na yung yamaha bookshelf, you dont need a sub kasi malakas na sya >:D
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thnx hans.
actually when we bought it i wasnt expecting much of it but since maganda pa yong over all appearance nya and during the testing all thumbs up naman tayo, plus the prodding of sir BGA, ayan na. after a few days with technics, i realized na d lang pala amp and cdp and gems sa pier pati pala speakers, so when the opportunity came that i could share with you our find pinahiman ko na, that is also the reason why i started this thread, to share the good word, este sound, para dumami n rin tayo.
yes panalo talaga sya sir, kahit sa mura kong dq12 good integration din. so far and except for the bass, wala pa akong nakikitang weakness nito.
just wnt to confirm sir, tunog papercone ba to sir?
that yamaha sounds good except yong bass, parang overbearing na e, wala bang return policy sila don just in case na encurable na tlga sya?
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sir question po ulit, for musi lang po ba or pwede rin for HT?
Pwede yan bro kasi whats good for 2 channel is better for HT setup naman kaso walang center.. ;D ;D
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wanderlust,
Yan din pala WARNING to future buyers.. same sa Amps & CDp sa Pier meron replace or repair pero walang return policy.. kaya what you see is what you get. :) :) kaya test it properly kahit matagal..
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and better yet bring friends with you para my additional listening ears ka. yup, no return policy ang speakers, as i was told speaker yan sir e.
so be on the look out for defects, and the only way is test test and more test.....
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Guys,
Another gem is Onkyo ni BGA warm sounding naman and good bass for a bookshelf maybe due to ported sya compare to Technics na sealed..
BTW price start 2,500 to 4,500 depend on the model size and status.. hehehehe
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how about diatone ds-103v, any comment on this speaker!
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we already auditioned a diatone speaker from a fellow member. IMHO, the speaker is impressive and sounds good. its a 3-way system and uses paper cone driver.
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Uy bili bili naman surplus speakers sa pier. ;D ;D ;D
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sir Wanderlust,
Thanks !! yung store na binilihan natin nag close na yata, wala nang laman dun sa spot nila. or maybe day off lang ;D ;D
Sir Hans,
galing lang ako kanina sa pier wala na yung yamaha na na test natin or nakatago, but hindi ko na nakita meron dun 3 way na yamaha looks ok, NS- 351 yata pero di ko na test. sa first bldg. ;D ;D
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what old speaker best for music and karaoke di pa kaya na rewind mga speaker nila and pano malalaman kung na rewind na 2
salamat po O0
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depende yan bro sa listening preference mo, mag audition ka na lang dun ang dami mong pagpipilian. Ang alam ko "as is" yung mga binebentang speaker dun. may na test nga kaming speaker na sira yung left tweeter nya.
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Pnalo Liverpool Surplus Spekaers ni BGA_VI. I heard it Last Saturday.
Wowow wiwit.
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yes i heard also the onkyo liverpool of sir BGA, what i notice 1st was that despite of its small size, maganda ang bass. and the make was quite impressive, halatang top of the line tlaga, even the grill was made of metal. ganda din ng sound.....
(http://202.108.248.38/proddb/pddbpic/19/s50.jpg)
looks exactly like this, but am not quite sure about the model no. though. there are several other models for the liverpool edition, heres the link if your intrested.
http://mobiledb.netease.com/proddb/hifi/list.php?brand_id=184 (http://mobiledb.netease.com/proddb/hifi/list.php?brand_id=184)
sir BGA, your welcome.
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wanderlust, miss mo na siguro yun speaker mo kailan ko pwede ibalik? text me na lang sir.
best buy pre ganda ng mids & highs.
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hayyyyyyyyy......... miss ko na nga. kaya nga dinadaan ko na lng sa pa post post dito e para makalimot.
hehehe.
txt txt na lang sir, medyo busy pa e. or maybe in one of the sessions.....
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sir wanderlust,
iba yung nasa picture mo. Try ko post .
(http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/404a75ed_6c6e/af53/__sr_/b295.jpg?ph9vyNBBxQSD0pvI)
;D ;D
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sir wanderlust,
iba yung nasa picture mo. Try ko post .
(http://us.f2.yahoofs.com/users/404a75ed_6c6e/af53/__sr_/b295.jpg?ph9vyNBBxQSD0pvI)
;D ;D
Wowow! ;D Ayus yan sir!
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sir wanderlust,
iba yung nasa picture mo. Try ko post .
sorry sir, as i said d ko kasi alam model # non e kaya hula na lang. post nyo sir para mas maging intresting.
OT.
attend ka tom sir? d kita matxt txt e, 2 weeks na to. pasansya na din ha. kakahiya na.
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how about diatone ds-103v, any comment on this speaker!
is this the one sir?
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366.jpg)
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366-2.jpg)
(http://www.gcc.ne.jp/~nama/private/image/audio_pic23.jpg)
input 80W impedance 8 Ω, size (1 10cm full range)
reviews arent that great regarding this speaker bro, theres one that mentions about it having an unnatural bass, frankly, i havent seen this model at the pier, but who knows, there are a lot of diatones thereof....
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btw, there are also sansui, aurex, trio, speakers spotted in the pier.
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is this the one sir?
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366.jpg)
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366-2.jpg)
(http://www.gcc.ne.jp/~nama/private/image/audio_pic23.jpg)
input 80W impedance 8 Ω, size (1 10cm full range)
reviews arent that great regarding this speaker bro, theres one that mentions about it having an unnatural bass, frankly, i havent seen this model at the pier, but who knows, there are a lot of diatones thereof....
My brother has this speakers. I heard this pair. super - super. cost only 300 pesoses. any sources?
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aHobbit sir,
really sir? 300 pesoses only? i read soemwhere that this is a very affordable speaker but didnt expect it will be that low......
from where did he get it? havent seen this at the pier pa kasi.
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aHobbit sir,
really sir? 300 pesoses only? i read soemwhere that this is a very affordable speaker but didnt expect it will be that low......
from where did he get it? havent seen this at the pier pa kasi.
Kung meron pa sa pinagbilhan niya, sa palagay mo ba, mauunahan mo pa ako? ;D
Some shops, has this pakalat kalat na lang, so benta mura before closing time - somewhere in marikina. dami naglipana murang sources dyan!
Last Christmas, we normally meet and setup sounds (baliw kasi kami eh). Pero nagkatamaran, so I just brought a small hitachi amp, and he brought the diatone pair. namputs, kaganda ng sound. Hindi ako naghanap ng bass o ng tweeter. Naramdaman ko ang haplos ng musika, ang gaan ng dating sa tenga, open area pa kami no'n at hindi sa loob ng bahay.
matindi bro.
Bayaan mo, pag nakakita ako, bibilhin ko, at sasabihin ko sa yo. ;D - na naubos na namin!!!
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;D ;Dhehehe. ;D ;D
madaming maiingit nyan pag nagtaon sir, d lang ako. :'(
oist, bagong mecca ah, didnt know that mramio palang surplus shop sa marikina, abay malapit lang kina ST Kimpao yon ah. d nya naamoy. ::)
solution nyan bro (at para maraming mahawa, ingit na din) pasyal mo minsan sa isa sa mga session, para madinig naman namin. ;)
ano ano pa meron don sir? speakers and evrything alike? ;) >:D ;)
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thanks pre sa info, me nagbebenta lang sakin nitong diatone na to, kaso di ko alam kung maganda ba kaya naitanong ko lang, yan nga siguro yun kasi 80 watts at 8 ohms yung specs balak ko kasing gawing surround speakers, yung speaker ko pa lang eh 601 s3 for front, ano sa palagay mo, ok lang bang i pair to?
is this the one sir?
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366.jpg)
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366-2.jpg)
(http://www.gcc.ne.jp/~nama/private/image/audio_pic23.jpg)
input 80W impedance 8 O, size (1 10cm full range)
reviews arent that great regarding this speaker bro, theres one that mentions about it having an unnatural bass, frankly, i havent seen this model at the pier, but who knows, there are a lot of diatones thereof....
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i think ahobbit sir is in a better position to tell you all about this speakers performance sir, as he have mentioned hearing it himself na.
well i think this set of speakers well be a good (temporay) surround speaker seeing that its an 8 ohms model specially so kung yong price is the same as that quoted by ahobbit.
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Kung meron pa sa pinagbilhan niya, sa palagay mo ba, mauunahan mo pa ako? ;D
Bayaan mo, pag nakakita ako, bibilhin ko, at sasabihin ko sa yo. ;D - na naubos na namin!!!
Napatawa ako dun ah... hahahhahahahaha
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i think ahobbit sir is in a better position to tell you all about this speakers performance sir, as he have mentioned hearing it himself na.
well i think this set of speakers well be a good (temporay) surround speaker seeing that its an 8 ohms model specially so kung yong price is the same as that quoted by ahobbit.
The speaker is active/passive. Only 1 driver is really connected to the amp. The other driver has no magnet and electrical connection. It has an intriguing heavy duty network inside, not really sure what it is for.
I could say, I can use it as fronts ;D
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One thing i've noticed on the speakers in Pier, most of the outer part have damaged, specifically the front grill cover. There are a lot of good speakers sariwa pa mga face ng drivers which is very important. My idea is to get a three way speakers even damaged grills or the box as long as the drivers are in good condition (to have a bargain price). Then i will cusomized a box thru the help of Anthony using real piano finished then, I will re-attached the the logo!
Anybody tried this idea?
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odyopayl.
Have the idea also better but got problem with box since i don't do DIY hehehe pero you mention Anthony pwede nga possible hehehehe..
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guys, i also bought a pair of diatone ds-201 speakers from the pier... its a 3-way large bookshelf na hindi ported and mirror image ang design(unit is specified for either left or right channel)... very good condition pa... the highs and mids are better than my ms902s...what this pair lacks is bass...kelangan supplement mo ng sub...good sound for little moolah :D
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guys, i also bought a pair of diatone ds-201 speakers from the pier... its a 3-way large bookshelf na hindi ported and mirror image ang design(unit is specified for either left or right channel)... very good condition pa... the highs and mids are better than my ms902s...what this pair lacks is bass...kelangan supplement mo ng sub...good sound for little moolah :D
san pa kaya nakakabili nito? ;D
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The speaker is active/passive. Only 1 driver is really connected to the amp. The other driver has no magnet and electrical connection. It has an intriguing heavy duty network inside, not really sure what it is for.
I could say, I can use it as fronts
is this so sir, then this speaker can be used also for PC or as an independent speaker for your portable system. how much sir is the power requirement?
but do the other driver without the connections work? how?
this pair of speaker is becoming quite intriguing. ???
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odyopayl,
i am also considering that option. in fact i am just taking my time enjoying the present sound and look (mine doesnt look that wasted after all) of the technics (saving up also for it).
a fellow dvd member and i were listening to the technics 2 nights ago.... and after awhile we noticed that the box reverbirates, causing unnatural sounds, sudible to the ears..... were planning to use fiber fills to correct the same but later on am going to have the enclosure changed to a bigger one to give the drivers better space to breath on into, and maybe correct the bass weakness of its present design.
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also heard sir obets diatone, out of the box, and right off the pier. very good sound (knowing that it still needs breaking in) good looking as well.
like the tweeter switch, and the fact that it has a paper cone driver. quite intresting also, is its mirror imaging feature.
sir cire2004,
sa pier sir maraming diatone.... just be patient and dont jump into the wagon right away...... listen listen listen and listen more. thats the secret, remember when it comes to speakers, warranty periods do not apply.
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also heard sir obets diatone, out of the box, and right off the pier. very good sound (knowing that it still needs breaking in) good looking as well.
like the tweeter switch, and the fact that it has a paper cone driver. quite intresting also, is its mirror imaging feature.
sir cire2004,
sa pier sir maraming diatone.... just be patient and dont jump into the wagon right away...... listen listen listen and listen more. thats the secret, remember when it comes to speakers, warranty periods do not apply.
Sir wanderlust, thanks for the tip i'll probably go there tommorow para mag scout sana payagan ako mag leave tom from work..hehhehe..Thanks ulit dre ;D
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ur welcome sir, anything to help out a fellow member.
here s pic of the diatone ds-201 :
(http://www.html.ne.jp/~soratosu/20040411/DS201.jpg)
and another:
(http://www.edinet.ne.jp/~gakuchi/Manuals/image/DS-201.jpg)
>:D >:D >:D
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sir wanderlust yan ba yung actual pic ng nabili mo sa pier? makinis pa talaga ah ::)
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downloaded lang yang dre from the internet, and its sir narayans speaker not mine.
but i do recall na makinis pa nga tlga yong unit na nabili ni sir obet, including the grill.
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ok..thanks ulit :D
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is this so sir, then this speaker can be used also for PC or as an independent speaker for your portable system. how much sir is the power requirement?
but do the other driver without the connections work? how?
this pair of speaker is becoming quite intriguing. ???
Yes, for portable system. But dont dare, it might become your main music system! ;D
I am not sure about the rating - did not look at it.
The other driver is basically a replacement for reflex port to give bass control.
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sana me yamaha na surplus..yung may berrylium na tweeter...hehe
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sana me yamaha na surplus..yung may berrylium na tweeter...hehe
oo nga sir, unahan tayo lahat dun! ;D ;D
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guys,
madali lang makahanap nyan daming yamaha speaker dun sa pier ;D
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maraming yamaha pero me NS-1000m ba??? >:D
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NS-1000 then pair it with a yamaha MX1....... hay.............
to dream the impossible dream...................
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mayron ba speakers sa pier using alnico magnet?
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btw heres a pic of that yammy speaker:
NS 1000m
(http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/hfwImages/oldeworlde/yamahans1000m.gif)
and a review:
Why, if humankind has put vehicles on Mars and mastered open-heart surgery, can it not design an accurate loudspeaker? Even at the best of times, modern 'speakers are compromised devices, and getting one to work properly from 20Hz to 20kHz is still an uncommon occurrence.
Given that moving-coil drivers have all sorts of colorations to sully them, and that electrostatics only work effectively over a limited frequency range, engineers have to employ clever tricks to get the best from these units. Back in the early Seventies, Yamaha decided the answer was Beryllium domes, and the NS1000 was born.
Using this expensive metal, Yamaha came up with treble and midrange drivers that produced extremely low levels of distortion, excellent dispersion and phase coherence. In fact, mated together by a complex crossover network, they behaved much as an electrostatic panel but with more extended highs and better power handling. Matched with a fast, light, rigid paper-coned 300mm bass unit, the combination was dynamite.
The first NS1000s went on sale in 1975, built like the proverbial brick powder room and with HF and midrange trim pots built into the front baffles. At over £400, their price reflected their advanced engineering and superb 32kg-per-box build. They were quite unlike anything people had ever heard best described as sounding like a Quad ESL with a ribbon super-tweeter and a sub-woofer to handle the lows!
In Japan and the States they were rapturously received, with recording studios and broadcast companies throwing their money at Yamaha. Quite simply, there was no other 'speaker to touch the NS1000's combination of transparency, speed and power handling. But over here, reactions were mixed. Reviewers used to soft, bland Bextrene-coned BBC monitors found them forward and fatiguing and prone to harshness and fizz.
The problem was that the Yamahas were utterly unforgiving of the amps that drove them. With high sensitivity and a relatively easy load, most Japanese audiophiles were using them with muscular valve amps that had a warm, smooth sound. In Britain the fashion was for big, punchy transistor power amps such as Naim's NAP250, which, without soft Bextrene or polypropylene cones to hide behind, could sound yes, that's right forward, fatiguing and fizzy!
In 1977 the NS1000s gained slightly smaller, more rigid cabinets, black paint and an 'M' suffix. Re-reviewed by the UK press, they were decried as harsh - with the exception of Practical Hi-Fi, whose reviewer used them with the then seriously unfashionable Quad II and gave them a big thumbs up. Funny, that.
In truth, the NS1000Ms are one of the most transparent 'speakers ever made, with dazzlingly fast transients, superb sound staging and great clarity and detail. But they also have a JBL-like capacity to inject life, drama and scale into everything they touch a formidable combination of virtues!
Partner them with valves or Class A tranny power amps, turn the midrange trim pot down to 3dB (they do have a slight mid-forward balance, but this assuages it), site them on sturdy, low stands (Atacama BD200s are perfect) and you'll struggle to find a 'speaker that's as much fun.
Although Yamaha discontinued the NS1000M in the UK in 1995, in Japan it lives on as the NS1000X. With the M's fabled mid and treble units plus an improved carbon-fibre woofer, it's a fantastic loudspeaker. But top dog is the anniversary edition NS10000, big enough to make the '1000 look like a Wharfedale Diamond!
Because the last NS1000Ms cost over £1500, these are not cheap boxes second-hand - pay between £400 and £800 depending on age and condition. Look for 'one careful owner' and avoid examples that sound fizzy it's a sign of a distressed Beryllium driver just about to die. Replacements are readily available from Yamaha Electronics (tel: 01923 233166) but expensive. Happy headbanging!
a pic of its cross-over:
(http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/02/67/7c/1b_12_sb.JPG) :o :o
with a cross over like this and a the Beryllium domes, what else could you ask for!!!! >:D
wish i could get by hands on this babies...... ;D
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sir julps.... what brand of speaker manufacturer carry this magnet?
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btw heres a pic of that yammy speaker:
NS 1000m
(http://www.hi-fiworld.co.uk/hfw/hfwImages/oldeworlde/yamahans1000m.gif)
(http://i16.ebayimg.com/03/i/02/67/7c/1b_12_sb.JPG) :o :o
with a cross over like this and a the Beryllium domes, what else could you ask for!!!! >:D
wish i could get by hands on this babies...... ;D
I saw them ... held them ... at pier. I looked closely. Good drivers especially mid and high. But I did not buy them. Sometimes, as one puts it who owned one, "you may not know what you are asking for, a transparent speaker - so dull - and no bass" - he he he - truly a studio monitor in fact. So I do not want to own it myself. But am I fortunate seeing and touching them. I could have bought it for my hobby museum though (good to look at the drivers) - but had second thought so I refused to part with my money.
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sir,
how mcuh was the asking price? and when was that?
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wanderlust,
remember the yamaha speaker we auditioned also.. notice the Mids are good too kaya lang wala ako mo0lah nun day na yun hehehehe
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and as i recall the design is almost like that of the ns1000. maganda tlga mids non sir..... sayang yon sir!
nandon si benjie.... d ka ksi ng pa BI e. hehehehe.
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wanderlust,
Bro ayaw ko din magpa BI kaya quiet lang ako nun.. hehehehe hirap na..
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mayron ba speakers sa pier using alnico magnet?
ang alam kong gumagamit ng Alnico magnet yung mga vintage ng JBL, Altec and EV, tama ba? BTW, yung mga dumadating na surplus Yamaha speakers dito sa atin yung mga NS-690 series speakers (big bookshelf-type mga 50kgs each) katapat ng JBL-4310 series monitors. 'yung Diatone merong directory yan sa niji/nishi website marami rin silang killer models.
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Hi, went to the pier today nothing new, except for this speaker
Technics SB-6
year model 81-85
design principle- Bass Reflex
woofer 10"
Mid range 3.125", comb
Tweeter 1.125", comb
93db
8 ohms
Dimensions 13x23x12
Weight 37.4 lbs.
Msrp. $400.00
almost the same as the one Sir wanderlust bought, but bigger and with a 10"woofer may port din sa front so ok ang bass!! parang malaking bookshelf ang size. 4k asking
;D ;D
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wow! another bang for a buck speaker waiting to be picked up by a fellow member ;D ;D
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also saw and heard this pair in action last week and i would say good buy considering their condition ;)
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heres a pic of sb-6:
(http://members.jcom.home.ne.jp/rb25det2498/spe1.JPG)
couldnt find a much clearer picture as the i am having trouble accessing the vintage technics site where the pics are much clearer and crispier.
the bottom part (10" woofer) i assume looks like that of sb-3.
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93 db @ 8 ohms. SET friendly i guess.
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that is what i had in mind also sir, however i am yet to get myself tubes amps, and if i do i might go with the push pull.....
;D ;D ;D
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93 db @ 8 ohms. SET friendly i guess.
Wow SET friendly nga masilip nga yan... :) :)
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punta ka ba sir....... gusto mo samahan kita? hehehe.
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wanderlust,
Wag muna today siguro pagsuweldo na... hehehehehehe
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abay ngayon na yan sir ah..... 14 na ngayon, sweldo na! hehehe.
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mga sir,
Bilhin niyo na yang SB-6,
bayaran ko muna ! HEHEHE !!!! >:D >:D
Sir wanderlust,
tama ka yung woofer is the same dun sa SB-3 mo. :)
Nandun pa din yung floorstander na sira yung isang tweeter. pareho ng tweeter
dun sa SB-6, baka pwede ilipat na lang nila. mas ok yata yun ? :)
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mga sir, galing ako ng pier last fri pero wala akong nakita na speaker :-[ san pier po ba iyon sa may BIR? don kasi ako galing eh... :-[
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doon sa stall just before the corner street fronting bpi branch(left side)...may katabi siya na may tindang surplus sewing machines
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anong brand sa mga surplus oks na di na kailangan sub pioneer,yamaha technics
mag kano kaya prices sa pier n ilang wats po ba cla O0 ty...
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we auditioned a yamaha speaker there and it rocks even without a sub. but do try other brands, it really depends on your preference. happy hunting bro!
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mga sir,
Bilhin niyo na yang SB-6,
bayaran ko muna ! HEHEHE !!!!
ayan my BI na naman..... hehehe. pro dahil sa BI ni sir BGA i got this gem of a find ;)..... kaya kung ako sa inyo pa BI na kayo ( wag lang sa B of Immigration ha, ibang BI meron don, hehehe, hold departure order!) :P
Sir wanderlust,
tama ka yung woofer is the same dun sa SB-3 mo.
Nandun pa din yung floorstander na sira yung isang tweeter. pareho ng tweeter
dun sa SB-6, baka pwede ilipat na lang nila. mas ok yata yun ?
magandang idea yan sir ah! tara puntahan natin at ma suggest nayan.... kung magkataon tlgang panalo na yan..... yum yum ;D >:D
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skylark,
you have a lot of choices there sir...... all you need is your ears, and time to audition it fully. bring additional ears sir, mas masaya, my masisi ka pa kung pumalpak yong napili mo, hehehe.
always remember speakers have a no return policy, so do the testing extensively, kalikotin mo pati yong amp na kinabitan sir, basically you should have tested the balance...... flat setting....... bass and treble adjustments, volume, etc......
good luck sir...... kwento mo agad ha whatever the result is....
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skylark,
you have a lot of choices there sir...... all you need is your ears, and time to audition it fully. bring additional ears sir, mas masaya, my masisi ka pa kung pumalpak yong napili mo, hehehe.
always remember speakers have a no return policy, so do the testing extensively, kalikotin mo pati yong amp na kinabitan sir, basically you should have tested the balance...... flat setting....... bass and treble adjustments, volume, etc......
good luck sir...... kwento mo agad ha whatever the result is....
mga sir kelan po kayo pupunta don? baka pwede makisabay? tnx ;)
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cire2004,
no plans as yet, but since i work near the place pwedeng pwede ka naming samahan.... basta d lang kami busy ha. hehehe.
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been to the pier yest and this is what i saw:
diatone DS 261 (1976 model)
(http://page.freett.com/knisi/ds-261.jpg)
3 ways acoustic air suspension system bookshelf type.
￥３８，０００
3 way speakers which are sold the DS series 8th as feature. DS - 251, 251MK? It was sold, as the model which is succeeded 25 cm woofers, to 5cm as for the constitution, eater and the plus super to eater while it was the そ, unit was developed new, the die-cast frame was adopted for all unit. Also the トゥイー tar had become dome type of 1. 6cm aperture. The enclosure assistant was strengthened strongly with V type reinforcement bridge and the like of new structure, had changed in modern stylish ones. (babel fish translation)
technics:
sb-x3
(http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=348268)
the picture shows however that The mid-toner is modified with an unfinished wooden phase plug, which improved the sound actually. (more open)... not mine ha, just the pic.
its 70 watts, @ 6 ohms, 91bd, year: 1978
sb-4500
(http://www.vintagetechnics.com/images/thumbs/sb4500acatalog.jpg)
1978, Vented enclosure, 10" woofer, 2.5" cone (tweeter type), 40-20 hz to khz Anechoic Frequency Response, 6 ohms, 14x13x25 dimension, 32 net weight, 300.00 pr. msrp (usd)
Aurex SS 470 and speaker with a solid metal front panel!
and an Akai.
;D ;D
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sori sir cire2004 wasnt able to invite you, nagkayayaan lang ksi kahapon. ;)
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sori sir cire2004 wasnt able to invite you, nagkayayaan lang ksi kahapon. ;)
ok lang po sir wanderlust. hindi rin kasi ako pwede ng weekdays eh.. sir pag libre ako at pag may listening session kayo baka pwede makisali kahit miron lang..maraming salamat :D
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everybody is invited to join us ;) kayo lang kasi eh ;D
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is this the one sir?
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366.jpg)
(http://www.komehyo.jp/medialand/uri/syouhin_imgs/A366-2.jpg)
(http://www.gcc.ne.jp/~nama/private/image/audio_pic23.jpg)
input 80W impedance 8 Ω, size (1 10cm full range)
reviews arent that great regarding this speaker bro, theres one that mentions about it having an unnatural bass, frankly, i havent seen this model at the pier, but who knows, there are a lot of diatones thereof....
sir wanderlust, san po makakabili nito? meron ba sa pier nito? salamat ;D
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cire2004,
sure sir, will do. ;)
i havent really seen this model of diatone sir, most that i've seen are the giant bookshelfs, and the occassional medium sized ones. if you have read the previous postings its aHobbit that said his brother has this model and has brought it somewhere in marikina ata. try asking him nalang. :D
thnx
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cire2004,
sure sir, will do. ;)
i havent really seen this model of diatone sir, most that i've seen are the giant bookshelfs, and the occassional medium sized ones. if you have read the previous postings its aHobbit that said his brother has this model and has brought it somewhere in marikina ata. try asking him nalang. :D
thnx
thanks po sir, tanungin ko na lang siya..ok talaga dito sa pinoy infos are everywhere.. ;D
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thats what were here for sir..... to learn. as knowledge is evrything.
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i read forsale Diatone @ this numberDIATONE SPEAKER 3,500 12", w/ baffles, 3way, Japan, 2pcs avbl. 288-3339. im not sure if still available
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@skylark
at the buy and sell paper ba bro? didnt indicate the model? hope this unit is not surplus.
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yup sa buy and sell ph sir di ko lang alam kung surplus
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have you contact the seller? ask him if you can see/audition it.
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Mga Sirs, meron din ba kayong nakikitang surplus na active subwoofer sa pier?
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meron din sir juneaki, just forgot the brand
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saw some also kenwood brand ata..
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wow! kelangan ko yata pumunta ulit ng pier baka sakaling maka-tsamba ng active sub..hehehhe..kaso pambili pa ang problema :'(
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Someone is selling me a pair of diatone ds-37b for 9K, any favorable advise will highly appreciated. thanks.
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as far as i know, there were a lot of active surplus subs arriving from Yokohama and Kobe. i witnessed a container van opened in one warehouse here in Davao a month ago and it had about half a dozen active subs, including esoteric designs, by Yamaha, Sony, Pioneer, Diatone and Kenwood (some were really beautiful and truly high-end). the warehouse price range quoted was from P3K to P6K but in that case, everything was taken by traders who had cash deposits with the shipper.
surplus Jap speakers should be priced similar to their amps considering even Jap audiophiles think these are inferior to British and American counterparts. if i have to choose betwen a surplus Jap speaker and a used Brit bookshelf speaker with twice the price, i'd still buy the Brit speaker. thus, a reasonable price range for Jap surplus speaker pair should be from P3K to P6K. unless you got the esoterics and high end models that originally cost over Y200,000 (roughly $1,700 now, but only $800 if the exchange is based 20 years ago.)
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Surplus powered subs would be another attractive and viable option over some entry level subs that are new. Espcially if they were originally in the mid to high end categories. Are there already powered subwoofers at the Pier?
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yes there are... mostly pioneers and sonys, as i can recall they were of plastic designs or enclosure. but i may have overlooked the others.
well, jap speakers here are reasonably priced naman, mostly the asking price begins at 2.8k, haggle and you cn get it at a much lower price as the market for it is not yet as demanding as that of the cdps and the amps, kaya kunting tyaga lang sa tawaran. performance wise they are "wonderful" and for its price, they are "heaven" sent...... ;D >:D
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wow! sirs, san po kaya banda sa pier ito? baka kasi hindi ko na naman makita... :-[
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sa dulo sir, youll immediately notice it as several speakers are displayed over there, the other shop is chatty, almost sa dulo na din but is within the cluster shops....
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sa dulo sir, youll immediately notice it as several speakers are displayed over there, the other shop is chatty, almost sa dulo na din but is within the cluster shops....
ok sir wanderlust, thanks for the heads up! ;D
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ur welcome sir...... good luck!
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Guys,
Gone to the Supermarket with the Dynamic Duo and saw Kenwood subs.. ;D
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kung sino man yung naghahanap ng sub here's your chance to own one ;D
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Guys,
Gone to the Supermarket with the Dynamic Duo and saw Kenwood subs.. ;D
sir, how much po kaya?
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that we didnt ask, sir. try mo na lng, and haggle.
almost all that i saw were the plastic enclosure type, yong parang pang HTIB, but they are power subs, of diff sizes din.
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may nakabili na kaya ng sub sa pier? ;) pa-review naman mga sirs! :o
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were waiting for you sir, i thought youll be getting one. hehehe.
wala pa sir e, personally i have a sub now and is presently contented with it, kaya no plans pa. ;D
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were waiting for you sir, i thought youll be getting one. hehehe.
wala pa sir e, personally i have a sub now and is presently contented with it, kaya no plans pa. ;D
ah ok sir wanderlust..wala kasi akong oras pati weekend fully occupied pa rin hanggang ngayon..haayyyy..anyway, antay lang siguro tayo..hehehe ;D
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sir long week-end tayo ngayon. >:D ;D
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sir long week-end tayo ngayon. >:D ;D
oo nga sir wanderlust long weekend pero dami rin inaasikasong ibang stuff :-[ may mga backlog Dvds pa nga ako hindi napapanood eh... haaay buhay...trabaho na naman... :'(
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nga e... here we go again enslave to work!
kaya lng bec of work my pang audio and HT tayo.... hehehe.
any ones been to the supermarket lately? new speakers ba don?
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back log ba kamo sir, gusto mo tulungan kita? hehehe. ;D >:D
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nga e... here we go again enslave to work!
kaya lng bec of work my pang audio and HT tayo.... hehehe.
any ones been to the supermarket lately? new speakers ba don?
tama ka sir wanderlust..ironic talaga ang buhay..we work to buy our hobby pero hindi naman natin ma enjoy fully kasi we have to work..... :-[
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and take note sir, even if we work more, we cant have the gears that we really want dahil d rin compensating yan! kaya e2 tayo nagta tyaga sa surplus. thnk god for the surplus!
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and take note sir, even if we work more, we cant have the gears that we really want dahil d rin compensating yan! kaya e2 tayo nagta tyaga sa surplus. thnk god for the surplus!
hehehehe..ok naman surplus sir di ba? ako kasi di ako masyado brand concius or porke may bago yun na ang maganda, kung ok sa pandinig ko at satisfied ako, don pa rin ako kahit na antigo pa yon. tsaka minsan kung ano pa yung luma yon ang mas mahal..hehehhehe ;D
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oo naman, i wouldnt start this topic if i wasnt satisfied with the surpluses here. ako nga personally would be able to build up one audio set-up out of all the surpluses i have (cept for the cables of course). and of all that i have i cna t say one is above the rest, lahat maganda e, and take note they were the class A of there time. and for the price they are being sold now, panalo tayo!
as i always say, let our ears decide, kung maganda ba naman e, why not! were satisfying here ourselves and if were happy... thats it sir.
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oo naman, i wouldnt start this topic if i wasnt satisfied with the surpluses here. ako nga personally would be able to build up one audio set-up out of all the surpluses i have (cept for the cables of course). and of all that i have i cna t say one is above the rest, lahat maganda e, and take note they were the class A of there time. and for the price they are being sold now, panalo tayo!
as i always say, let our ears decide, kung maganda ba naman e, why not! were satisfying here ourselves and if were happy... thats it sir.
the best ka talaga sir wanderlust! hehehehe ;D
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hehehehe..ok naman surplus sir di ba? ako kasi di ako masyado brand concius or porke may bago yun na ang maganda, kung ok sa pandinig ko at satisfied ako, don pa rin ako kahit na antigo pa yon. tsaka minsan kung ano pa yung luma yon ang mas mahal..hehehhehe ;D
Sir wala sa brand yan SOUND is important! kaya ako Generic preamp and tube amp! ;D
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Sir wala sa brand yan SOUND is important! kaya ako Generic preamp and tube amp! ;D
same here sir! ;D :D
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cire2004,
talaga di ka pihikan sa brand? hmmm
kaya pala gusto mong receiver HK lang ayaw mo ng iba! hehehe
peaceman...biro lang po!
dvh
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cire2004,
talaga di ka pihikan sa brand? hmmm
kaya pala gusto mong receiver HK lang ayaw mo ng iba! hehehe
peaceman...biro lang po!
dvh
sir, so far kasi HK pa lang ang nababanaagan ko maganda sa Audio at Movies.
kaso lang, kaso lang, hanggang ngayon hindi pa rin makabili..pambili kasi ang problema..hehehhee...bili na! bili na! hehehehe samahan ko kayo! hehhehe ;D :D ;D
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thnx sir cire2000.
i agree with you sir, if your going to combine HT with audio the best would avr would be an HK. well i wasnt planning to have a seperate audio set-up (and more cash) i would have gotten myself an HK to. ;)
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thnx sir cire2000.
i agree with you sir, if your going to combine HT with audio the best would avr would be an HK. well i wasnt planning to have a seperate audio set-up (and more cash) i would have gotten myself an HK to. ;)
Sir, kunwari ka pa dyan...ano ba yang niluluto mo ha? O0 Fish tayo... ;D
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Sir wala sa brand yan SOUND is important! kaya ako Generic preamp and tube amp! ;D
;D
It is a matter of where to find the hidden gold and the hidden diamond, and then enjoy the sound. and yet low cost. Than paying high price for something that promised you good sound and yet can not deliver! ;D
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loko ka sir control..... yong HK pang ht natin yan, hehehe. yong niluluto sa audio naman. ahihihi.
tama ka sir ahobbit, nicely said, i agree with you all the way.
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am just wondering, meron kayang speakers with tweeters much like those sa aurum cantus or sa spirit ng triangle sa pier..... hmmmmm......
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am just wondering, meron kayang speakers with tweeters much like those sa aurum cantus or sa spirit ng triangle sa pier..... hmmmmm......
Sir wag ng pag-isipan yan..puntahan kagad ng malaman kung meron nga o wala... ;D
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sama ka? lika na!
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mga katoto good news daming speakers ngayon sa pier! i even saw a technics floorstander there. most are a/v speakers, that are shielded.
punta punta na!!!!
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mga sirs medyo out-of-topic. mron bang cdp sa pier? info naman. :)
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mga sirs medyo out-of-topic. mron bang cdp sa pier? info naman. :)
OT .. anyways, meron kaso wala pa daw magandang arrival... ;D
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oo naman madami sir...... yon nga lang medyo hunina na ang arrivals lately. but i did saw several nice looking units in there, including a technics sl-p1000.
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thanks. makikibalita n lang ako d2 sa forum. pra d sayang punta ko kung sakali. ska d rin kc ako marunong tumingin ng magandang cdp :Da
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mga sir san po bang pier pinapag usapan nyo d2 ba sa manila yon?
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mga sir san po bang pier pinapag usapan nyo d2 ba sa manila yon?
yap. sa manila nga. :)
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yap. sa manila nga. :)
Bro its near Manila Cathedral end of Roxas Blvd. :)
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Bro its near Manila Cathedral end of Roxas Blvd. :)
sa may BIR di ba? :D
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opo. BIR pier area.
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sana may mag guhit ng mapa para sa mga kaibigan natin dito na nagnanais na magtungo sa daungan. ;)
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sir,
kayo na po sir.... kung alam ko lang ano at pano gamitin ang isang programa para maka gawa ng mapa na yan gagawin ko na sana.
sir youve got pm. ::)
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sir,
kayo na po sir.... kung alam ko lang ano at pano gamitin ang isang programa para maka gawa ng mapa na yan gagawin ko na sana.
sir youve got pm. ::)
di din ako marunong eh. ;D hanggang coreldraw lang ako sir. ;D
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hehehe. ma-try nga yong pic editor, baka kaya. hay.... alam ko lang kasi gamitin sa Pc e magbukas ng explorer and word..... excel nga pahirapan na e.
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kung krokis lang sir, kaya na ng Word yan, or Pagemaker. problema ko rin kasi, dahil sa tagal ko dito sa Davao, hindi ko rin alam kung saan pupunta diyan sa Pier just in case gusto kong tingnan kung anong binebenta diyan. alam ko yung lugar mula Intramuros hanggang Manila Hotel pero kung nasaan yung mga surplus wala na akong ideya.
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cge sir, ill try those that you suggested.
from mla hotel konti na lang and youll get there na. straight from mla. hotel (going to the direction of divisoria) youll pass by muna the DPWH head office, after that youll see the BIR building, the tallest building in the area that is. right beside it is a gate, directly in front of the rotonda (circle) , thats the entrance to the pier sir..... first portion will be the tvs etc..... dulo are the audio gears. ;D
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cge sir, ill try those that you suggested.
from mla hotel konti na lang and youll get there na. straight from mla. hotel (going to the direction of divisoria) youll pass by muna the DPWH head office, after that youll see the BIR building, the tallest building in the area that is. right beside it is a gate, directly in front of the rotonda (circle) , thats the entrance to the pier sir..... first portion will be the tvs etc..... dulo are the audio gears. ;D
Kapag nasa Manila Hotel ka na, OK na yan! marami pulis don! ;D
Just ask them - it will not hurt you to do so!
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tama ka sir!
hmmm... bakit d ko kaya naisip yon ???
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mga sir,
tanong ko lang kung merong pang sorround back sa pier..?
san ba sa pier yung bilihan ng speaker. parang puro TV
yata nakikita ko don.
tnx.
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meron sir, actually kasing dami ng main speakers and pang sorround don. pioneers, sonys, etc. are the most common brands.
sa dulo sir, the fronts are mostly tvs, just walk a little farther, malapit sa bpi bank andon maraming stores fopr audio. ;)
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tnx for the info.. ill visit pier nxt week..
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Sa HMR meron din bang surplus speakers? How much? ;D
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HMR wala ata mostly ref, tv, DVD, VHS & 5.1 HITB lang ata.
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hope this map helps...
http://img77.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img77&image=portarea.jpg
(http://img77.exs.cx/img77/2525/portarea.jpg)
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thnx garee for posting the map.... indeed i could see clearly the supermarket (pier)......
and i just found out pangalan pla ng st na yan e "ROBERTO S.OCA, SR." alam ko its 13th st. lang. :D
guys, just follow the yellow (brick ::) ) road, you'll see clearly the circle (anda) and the Manila (Pier) BIR building. ;D
pasyal pasyal na, hababng d pa dumadating yong bagyo. hehehe >:D
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your welcome, glad to be of help, after all its christmas season...its better to give than to receive ikanga... kaya yun mga extra gears nyo give nyo na sa akin hehehe ;D
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your welcome, glad to be of help, after all its christmas season...its better to give than to receive ikanga... kaya yun mga extra gears nyo give nyo na sa akin hehehe ;D
Hehehehe si Wanderlust abang ka bro pagnakabili na yan ng new speaker baka pakawalan yun surplus speaker.. ;D ;D ;D
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Hehehehe si Wanderlust abang ka bro pagnakabili na yan ng new speaker baka pakawalan yun surplus speaker.. ;D ;D ;D
sana nga before yearend dumating na yun kulay silver na diamond. >:D
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oist, love ko yong technics ha, letting go of it is farthest from my mind now..... sori po. :-[
pasyal pasyal lang sa supermarket, once in a while a gem is bound to pop up, you knows magkita kayo, d ba. mine isnt that gem of a find naman e, yong price lang ;D
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onga, wag mo pakawalan yan atty.... alam mo ba na ang big brother nyan na flagship ng technics noong 1981 ay 700,000yen! sa exchange rate ngayon ay 383,000 pesos...... 92kg each! pagmasdan mo mabuti pareho ang tweeter at midwoofer nung sayo di ba? ;D
(http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/sb-m1-h.jpg)
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Wow! ang mahal pala nyan master akyat. Truly a gem pala yang nakuha mo master wanderlust..... kaya pakawalan mo na para sa ibang audio enthusiasts >:D ;D malay mo magkita kayo nitong SB-M1 :o
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oist, love ko yong technics ha, letting go of it is farthest from my mind now..... sori po. :-[
pasyal pasyal lang sa supermarket, once in a while a gem is bound to pop up, you knows magkita kayo, d ba. mine isnt that gem of a find naman e, yong price lang ;D
Mura lang pala yan...palit na lang tayo ng 8.3 ko Sir >:D
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Mura lang pala yan...palit na lang tayo ng 8.3 ko Sir >:D
hehehe. LOKO! :P
onga, wag mo pakawalan yan atty.... alam mo ba na ang big brother nyan na flagship ng technics noong 1981 ay 700,000yen! sa exchange rate ngayon ay 383,000 pesos...... 92kg each! pagmasdan mo mabuti pareho ang tweeter at midwoofer nung sayo di ba? ;D
(http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/sb-m1-h.jpg)
anak ng tipaklong onga! :o sa woofer kulay lang pinag iba! d anko cgurado sa tweeter, maliit masyado nasa pic e and mine has a metal guard.
eto na sure na tlga........ for keeps na to!!!!
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naku wala na pala yong site na pinag kuhanan ko ng pic ng sb-3, compare ko sana side by side pics non and the sb-m1(M)(s) para mas believable...
pero i noticed from the pic of the M1 na 3 yong volume control nya, which i presume is for the highs, mids and lows.............. galing!!!!
mine has volume control only for the tweeter (highs) only.
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naku wala na pala yong site na pinag kuhanan ko ng pic ng sb-3, compare ko sana side by side pics non and the sb-m1(M)(s) para mas believable...
pero i noticed from the pic of the M1 na 3 yong volume control nya, which i presume is for the highs, mids and lows.............. galing!!!!
mine has volume control only for the tweeter (highs) only.
Palit na lang tayo Sir... Magdadagdag na lang ako ng 10 cdrs.. >:D >:D >:D
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wanderlust,
parang sarap mag window shopping sa supermarket.. ;D ;D
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wanderlust,
parang sarap mag window shopping sa supermarket.. ;D ;D
Sir, wag mo munang yayain yan at nagiipon pa yata.. tulad ko.. ;D
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game ako sa supermarket.... kailan sir? bukas? hehehe. ;D
hoy control 10 cdr mka dyan, 11 naman, hehehehe. pro tama ka nag iipon diun ako tulad mo. >:D
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oist got news... my nakakuha ng new toy sa supermarket ah, a higher model than mine.
congrats to you sir!
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oist got news... my nakakuha ng new toy sa supermarket ah, a higher model than mine.
congrats to you sir!
Oist, balitaan nyo ako ha.. :'(
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i need help. baka may nakita kayo sa Pier na Kenwood SW-05, yung bugle-shaped powered subwoofer for home theater. ang itsura parang yung gramophone sa RCA record label na black. kung meron diyan, magkano?
meron kasing binebenta sa akin dito yung isang trader na kilalala ko (mas mahal compared with the warehouses here dahil bihira daw to). maganda tingnan, mabigat, odd-looking at P3.5K. parang gusto ko nang kunin pero may nakita ako sa e-Bay Japan, 3,000 yen lang ang bid, that's only about P1.6K. kung walang available diyan, malamang kunin ko.
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sandawa
been to the Pier last sat to look for a junk TTable sa surplu HiFi emporium doon and I dont recall seeing a speaker just like what you described. what they have are those big boxes that houses a 12 inch woofer, 4inch mid and a tweeter with matching Hi-mid controls. Brands are the ff: Pioneer, Technics, Victor, Sony. I recall hearing this enormous speaker na Victor brand powered by a Yamaha integrated amp...parang may outdoor concert..grabe ang lakas. Sex bomb pa yung track..Tom Jones! O0
OT: when the goons asked me what particular item I was looking for and I replied that I was looking for a Turntable almost everybody said this "sir....sobra na po ang luma nung hinahanap ninyo." then sabay talikod sa akin hehe ;D
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http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m7910074
ito ang link nya sa eBay Japan, nasa ibaba ang photos. gandang tingnan, pero sa dinig ko hindi true-hifi, medyo hindi kasing solid ng luma kong Velodyne na hindi ko na rin ginagamit dahil nawalan na ako ng gana sa over-emphasis sa bass. ang original price pala ng SW-05, brand new three years ago was 35,000 yen.
sabi sa 'kin nung trader 7 units daw ang dumating dito last week, 6 units kinuha ng taga Maynila. kapag wala kang nakitang TT diyan hanggang next week, subukan ko dito. kaya lang walang headshell and cartridge itong mga nandito. kung isasama mo headshell (i can spare a few) plus freight charge, mga P1.2K. ang problema ko oras.
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sandawa
been to the Pier last sat to look for a junk TTable sa surplu HiFi emporium doon and I dont recall seeing a speaker just like what you described. what they have are those big boxes that houses a 12 inch woofer, 4inch mid and a tweeter with matching Hi-mid controls. Brands are the ff: Pioneer, Technics, Victor, Sony. I recall hearing this enormous speaker na Victor brand powered by a Yamaha integrated amp...parang may outdoor concert..grabe ang lakas. Sex bomb pa yung track..Tom Jones! O0
OT: when the goons asked me what particular item I was looking for and I replied that I was looking for a Turntable almost everybody said this "sir....sobra na po ang luma nung hinahanap ninyo." then sabay talikod sa akin hehe ;D
Sir, magkano bilihan ng mga speakers with 12inch woofer - pwede na pangharabas yan pang pasko at bago taon? thanks
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sir sandawa,
am not quite certain but it think i did saw one of that sa pier sir. most sub woofers here are of the brand of sony and pioneer, so there is a strong possibility of one like that being here.
ill check again to verify that, probably within the week.
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sandawa,
Saw that sub before last year pa ata pero was not able to ask for the price. meron dito kenwood yun straight lang 3,500 din price.
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thanks for the response, guys. nagdadalawang isip talaga akong bilhin, kasi may kinuha na naman akong bago (luma) last Sunday, at medyo hindi maganda ang resulta. baka magulpi ako, hispanic temper si misis.
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ur welcome sir....
nakow, mahirap yan sir, tago mo na alng kay misis para d makita... sama mo sa mga dati mong bago na luma... hehehe ;D
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thanks for the response, guys. nagdadalawang isip talaga akong bilhin, kasi may kinuha na naman akong bago (luma) last Sunday, at medyo hindi maganda ang resulta. baka magulpi ako, hispanic temper si misis.
Sir, if you need training regarding 'Misis" marami akong mai-rerecomenda sa iyo.. >:D
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wanderlust,
Congrats pala sa bago mong LUma OTTO speaker ah.. naka ribbon package pa ha.. ;D ;D ;D ;D PANALO!!
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Hans,
Kala ko OTTO shoes ;D :P ang bago ni wanderlust. Narinig ko na rin yan....
GALING talaga ng ribbon :o
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KID_lat,
Btw saw this awhile ago sa supermarket.. ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/sb10catalog.jpg)
Di ko lang na test.. selling for 4k ata..
got news first week Jan meron dating DAW.. ;D
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Hans,
Kala ko OTTO shoes ;D :P ang bago ni wanderlust. Narinig ko na rin yan....
GALING talaga ng ribbon :o
Sabi ko nga eh Swap kami ayaw for KEEPS daw.. hmmm :( :( :( ;D ;D
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Hmmmmm! puro kayo for keeps !!! ;D ;D ;D
Peace ;D ;D >:D O0
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got news first week Jan meron dating DAW.. ;D
Master Hans, don't 4get to contact me ha? :'(
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got news first week Jan meron dating DAW.. ;D
kasama ba CDp's?
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mga sir tanong lang po sa mga surplus speaker like victor,pioneer,technic,diatone ano po kayo best buy i saw some surplus speaker sa mga may gumagamit ng surplus speaker let me naman po balak ko bumili sana Thank's HAPI NEW YEAR 2 ALL
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Bro, depende sa preference mo yan. audition mo lang kung ano makita mo, basta panalo sa tunog OK yan ;)
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mga sir tanong lang po sa mga surplus speaker like victor,pioneer,technic,diatone ano po kayo best buy i saw some surplus speaker sa mga may gumagamit ng surplus speaker let me naman po balak ko bumili sana Thank's HAPI NEW YEAR 2 ALL
Agree with PUnk_kid sa surplus speaker what you see is what you get almost all model are ok pero syempre audition mo mabuti specially yun type mong speakers. usually naman naka display yun sa front side nun shop lahat yan best buy kasi mura tapos pag naka tsamba ka eh swerte ka.. that's the fun of it minsan. ;D ;D ;D ;D
LIke with sir wanderlust he got a gem tapos never heard pa yun brand OTTO.. pero galing natural tumunog.. ;D ;D ;D
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kasama ba CDp's?
Yan di pa nabangit bro.. :)
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mga bro thank's sa info oks lang ba price nya is 4k+ pwede pa cguro matawaran anyway salamat mga bro...
O0
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mga bro thank's sa info oks lang ba price nya is 4k+ pwede pa cguro matawaran anyway salamat mga bro...
O0
Usually 4k starting price pero haggle mo pa till bumigay ng mura.. ;D ;D ;D
NOTE:
Audition them carefully check for unusual sound, check the box, grille, any modification, any repair, as much as possible eh STOCK pa wala repair yun dent ok lang yun wag lang butas yun woofer tapos ask for price then haggle wag mo papakitang type na type mo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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... LIke with sir wanderlust he got a gem tapos never heard pa yun brand OTTO.. pero galing natural tumunog.. ;D ;D ;D
Otto is the domestic brand of Sanyo Electric, another Japanese electronics giant, where Cory Aquino serves as member of the company's board of directors (emeritus, i think).
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thnx mga sir.
got lucky on that one lang as i was at the pier only to accompany punk_kid, i however have not heard it perform together with my system (during audition lang at the market) so ill keep to myself any comments to that effect, no matter how excited i am. ;D
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sir sandawa,
is that so sir? does that mean that the speaker that i got came here from the phil?
i know sanyo as there are products locally available even today under the name sanyo, in fact i once had a walkman in that name.
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no, it's 100% Japan. Sanyo is a big Japanese sogo-sosha (global trading house). alam mo naman ang mga Hapones magaling din sa PR kaya kinuha nila si Cory sa board. Cory is a well-known global personality due to People Power 1986 that inspired similar events in succeeding years in Eastern Europe (tearing down of Berlin wall), China (Tian- an-men Square) and Korea. OT na tayo, buti na lang mabait ang moderators dito.
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ganon ba sir, thnx for the info.
yup buti nalang understanding mods dito, pro d naman tayo talagang malayo sir e, related pa rin sa surp speakers discussion natin (palusot ;D)
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May link itong thread from another site. I was asking kung ok bumili ng stereo amp sa pier.
By the way, ung unit na binabalak ko Pioneer 180W... Ginagamit na demo sa isang shop... Ilang beses ko na binabantayan/daanan. Mukhang ok naman, kasi un ung pang impress nila...at least ginagamit nila-na road test na.
Feedback naman mga sir.
Hindi ko nalang sasabihin ang last price na ino-offer baka pumunta kayo lahat sa pier at unahan nyo pa ako hehehe...
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Mali yata ang link na ibinigay nila sa iyo ha. Dapat sa Amplifier Section. May thread doon na Surplus Amps. Pasensya na, hindi ako marunong mag link eh. :)
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tama si sir Barrid.... sa surplus amps sir, don sure marami my alam nayn, ask the likes of sir sandawa and akyat-bundok.
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:) wow what i nice read. becoming interested in finding old speakers here in our bodega.
i even checked my dad's "old school speaker"
Canton Loudspeker S120
4-8 ohms 120watts
any info about this speaker?
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Hi.
I went on a "listing spree" sa pier audio surplus stores and here's the list of the speakers that i saw:
Pioneer CST88
LoD HS270
Aurex S3w
Sony SS225OM
Diatone SS28b
Diatone DS501
A&D SS750
Victor Zero50Fine
Aurex SS535w
Pioneer SSF99
Pioneer CST7
Deonon SC 106. (looks promising)
Onkyo S490
LoD Hs530
Lod Hs360
Victor DL-V5
Technics SB 2170
Trio Jl7000
Pioner CS7100
Onkyo s5000
Diatone SS600
Technics SBm6 (i thought this might be a higher model of the Technics SBM1 monitor...inde yata)
Sansui SPK2000
Victor Zero3
Diatone DS37b
Onkyo E213Aoak
Denon USC 606
Sony SS377
Sony APM910AV (silly looking square drivers, i wondered if they sound good)
Technics SU2090
Diatone SB32b
Trio Jl77
Victor DCZ7700
Technics SB4500
Sony S440
Lod HS58
Yamaya NS333AV
Lod Hs200DM
Technics SB1850
Trio LS202
Sony SS737
Sony SSL200
Technics SB2170
Kenwood S5
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sir lordfoo, yung nakita nyo bang dialtone speaker is yung satellite na pwede pang surround? magkano kaya? thanks ;D
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nakaka-inggit ang listahan ng surplus speakers na available dyan sa Pier. dito sa Davao wala nang dumadating kasi raw barat at masyadong mapili ang mga bumibili dito. not sure about the Denon SC-106, wala akong makita sa Jap directories on how it sounds, but the Victor Zero5 Fine is a good one, also the Hitachi 530 (metal speakers if I'm not mistaken) and the Onkyos.
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sir lordfoo, yung nakita nyo bang dialtone speaker is yung satellite na pwede pang surround? magkano kaya? thanks ;D
Hi.
The units mentioned by Professor Sandawa were also the ones that attracted my attention. Ung victor zero5fine looks okay. Heavy enclosure.
The diatones were the ones mostly used by the stores as display speakers. yun bang pinapatunog to attract attention. Puedeng pang surround.
Ung 106 medyo malaki. Problem is i really went on a listing spree...not listening spree so hindi ko pinakinggan muna ung mga speakers. There were so many. I wanted to check them out on the net and focus on the ones i like when i come back.
there were two nice looking vintage pioneers in that i saw. Ung isa three way na wood finish ang dating. You'll find this at the Little Chatty store. Pinapatungan nung mga tape players. (OT there was a Tascam Tape recorder dito last time. Mabigat. Wala na pagbalik ko.) Ung isa pang pioneer, medyo modern ang itsura. Two woofers with a horn in between. But they are big ang heavy speakers. Hindi yata kasya sa kotse.
Actually, if you check sa japanese listings... ung Victor Zero5 ang mataas ang Yen value. I didnt see any of the famous six digit yen speakers.
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Sir Sandawa,
Off topic.
I just got hold of a pair of 1970s Kef reference 104 speakers. Have you heard of them?
Enclosures are okay. Surrounds are okay. Drivers are okay.
but when i drove them with the Sansui AUDxdecade amp. The performance was very very disappointing. Do you think its the crossover? or are these speakers not really good? the label at the back said they were made in Maidstone England. Any suggestions sir?
http://www.kef.com/history/1970/model104.htm
Foo
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thanks for the info Lordfoo ;D
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Sir Sandawa,
I just got hold of a pair of 1970s Kef reference 104 speakers. Have you heard of them?
Enclosures are okay. Surrounds are okay. Drivers are okay.
but when i drove them with the Sansui AUDxdecade amp. The performance was very very disappointing. Do you think its the crossover? or are these speakers not really good? the label at the back said they were made in Maidstone England. Any suggestions sir?
Foo
sir Foo, may nagdaan sa aking KEF 104 back in mid '80s but it sounded good and comparable with the EVs, ARs and JBLs, i kept during that time. it requires good placement though since it was less efficient despite its size (and looks more like a Kabuki-type, if i still recall, compared with US-made vintage gear I had then.) may bumili sa akin agad ng five figures, so, binenta ko.
if you're comparing it with your AR-90 and Yamaha NS-1000, inferior nga ang KEF-104. i just checked the Orion bluebook used by traders and insurers as reference in the US and it showed a used KEF 104's recommended re-sale value today at only $200. in comparison, the small KEF 101/s2 that i own has a used value of $250. your Yamaha NS-1000 has a re-sale quote of $620 while your AR-90 was pegged at $350.
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sir Foo, may nagdaan sa aking KEF 104 back in mid '80s but it sounded good and comparable with the EVs, ARs and JBLs, i kept during that time. it requires good placement though since it was less efficient despite its size (and looks more like a Kabuki-type, if i still recall, compared with US-made vintage gear I had then.) may bumili sa akin agad ng five figures, so, binenta ko.
if you're comparing it with your AR-90 and Yamaha NS-1000, inferior nga ang KEF-104. i just checked the Orion bluebook used by traders and insurers as reference in the US and it showed a used KEF 104's recommended re-sale value today at only $200. in comparison, the small KEF 101/s2 that i own has a used value of $250. your Yamaha NS-1000 has a re-sale quote of $620 while your AR-90 was pegged at $350.
i also posted the question at the AK forum and got some questions back. Eto po ung reply ko:
I went downstairs and tried the speakers again. I realized there's an Ab after the model number. (So its a KEF reference 104ab.)
I used a Sansui AUD707Xdecade amp. It's 100+wpc i believe. I've placed an AR90 in the A speaker set and the Kefs in the B speaker speaker posts.
I tried Norah Jones' "Come away with me" and the live version of Eagles' "Hotel California".
BASS
The bass is not as full and deep as the AR90s but they seemed okay for the size of the speakers. I don't know the words to use, but though the AR90s bass is better, the kef's bass is still pleasant to my ears.
Mids
Norah jones' voice came out accurate and She wasn't nasal at all like she was in some speakers i used.
Treble.
I have to really place my ears to the tweeter to really hear the tweeters. They work but are overpowered by the bass.
Compared to the AR90s' treble, the kef's are i really lousy. Almost inaudible.
I tried moving the selector switch from - to Ref to + to no really discernible effect. The treble is no unpleasant, its just not there!!!
There are no buzzes, wheezes, coughs or any rattling sound.
I pulled out my screwdriver and slowly opened the biggest woofer...and found out its just a radiator with a large piece of foam behind it and other foam pieces lining the speaker box.
The middle speaker's metal surrounding the magnet ( i dont know what that is called), was covered with a white powedery substance. My, that's a very heavy small speaker.
I couldnt remove the tweeter without prying against the wood and thus damaging it so I desisted and put everything back. I wouldnt know what to do with the tweeter anyway.
Plugged the speaker again and listened for about half the norah jones CD. In summary, I guess i like the bass but not the high's which was almost non existent. the mids are also okay.
Well, i expected the AR90s to outperform the kef's but the difference in the highs is too much.
(m sorry i lost my digital camera so i can't post pics)
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KEF's highs really don't sizzle i think, since that also were a bit off for my 101/s2 compared with my other speakers. maganda ang low and middle ng original 101s2, but the highs are a little lacking. what i did was to change the UniQ configuration, got a pair Wharfedale Modus Vivendi tweeters and mounted these on top of the box and the result was significantly more pleasing highs. the new KEF Reference series already have tweeters mounted on top.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/kef3.jpg)
the KEF101s2 with a Wharf Modus Vivendi tweeters mounted on top. its highs now sound more pleasing. the original is UniQ design with the HF unit in the middle hole of the LF's voice coil.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/kef2.jpg)
6 of 9 pairs of speakers in my little room. wife kicked me out of the master's bedroom years ago due to my increasing collection of what she calls "junk" (vintage) hifi - KEF101s2 and JBL316Pro on top of Epos 14 and Denon SC104 which sit on Diatone DSa7 and Design Acoustics PS10.
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nice set of speakers, sir... :D :D :D hope to hear them in september... :D :D :D
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You have great speakers mr. sandawa.
I've finally made my first speaker purchase at the pier.
I found this, Victor Bookshelf, an oak colored Victor SX-3 with one tweeter not working. I knocked on the box lifted the speaker and felt solid woodwork.
The store guys was selling the unit as is. Talked to to the guys and they had one of the tweeter wires resoldered for 100 php and the tweeter lived. While they were doing that, I noticed through the tweeter hole that the speaker was totally filled inside with a foam like substance.
http://page.freett.com/knisi/sx-3.htm
Back at home...I connected the victors to a sansui aud707xdecade and a Sony 337ESD and they began to sing... i say wow!!!
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Sir Foo,
how much was it? i know SX-3 was a classic as per K-nisi website but my problem was my first speakers in 1980 was a JVC and it sounded too flat, and until now that experience kept me from buying an SX-3 available here in Davao.
with your post, i'm having second thoughts. how does it compare with your bigger speakers such as AR, Yamaha or KEF (i'm more familiar with those brands)? if the price here would be lower than your buying price, i might consider getting the pair i saw.
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Okay i did the match up with the AR90 and a Tannoy MX1 bookshelf (not the ns1000 which is upstairs and is too heavy to bring down.) I used a Sansui AUD707Xdecade amp and a Sony 337ESD player. Songs were Norah jones, come away, Hotel California live. A chesky cut of spanish harlem. Sultans of Swing by dire straits. and a car audio bass shaker cut.
In a nutshell, the AR90 beats both speakers hands down in all departments. O would recommend the SX3 considering its size, build quality and cost. (In fact, I'd like to see a 6.1 home theater set up using three pairs of the SX3.)
If i were forced to rank them. Ar90 will be 9. Sx3 will be 7.5 and MX1 will be 4. SX3 is good value for money. Considering that it is a two way 50 watt speaker it is not as far behind as the big AR90 as you might expect. It is definitely a much better sounding speaker than the dimunitive Tannoy MX1.
The SX3 is much nearer the sound of the AR90 than the MX1.
AR90 12 by 15 by 42.4 inches. Five way. Not ported. Low, Mid and high tone controls.
SX3 11 by 11.5 by 20.5 inches. Two way. Only one control for High.
MX1 6.5 by 8.5 by 12. ported. Two way. No tone controls.
Bass: AR90 with its two sidefiring 12 inch woofers really pounds out bass. The SX3 also does give out great bass, filling the room with bass but not as deep as the AR90. The MX1 produces only midbass and this is just as expected from such a small bookshelf. I'd use this only for surrounds.
MidRange: AR90 and SX3's midrange is almost at par. Distinct instruments, clear vocals. Nora Jones comes out nasal in the MX1.
Highs: All speakers belted out natural highs. Both AR and VictorSX3 however outperforms the MX1.
At high volume, the MX1 quickly lost quality of sound. The SX3 followed suit at very loud settings (its a 50 watt speaker after all). I quit upping the volume before i detected quality loss in the AR90.
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good day sirs,
i found a good looking pair of Polk Audio SDA2 speakers in a thrift shop and was tempted to bringi them home. I haven't heard them yet though as I was in a hurry to meet a friend. Has anybody has knowledge about these speakers, their SDA feature and the DIY interconnect cable as I didn't see any included with the pair? IIRC, its tweeter indicated Silver Coil tweeters, has two midrange and a round flat diaphragm woofer. I'll go back to the shop and investigate further.
thanks ;D
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SDA2 is a big floorstander. retailed at $1.2K brand new in mid '80s and still selling int eBay roughly $350 per pair. haven't used a Polk before but a friend of mine here in Davao treasures his pair of Polk CRS
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Is anybody here familiar with the Yamaha NS670? I've found a lot of info on the NS690 but not the 670.
foo.
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Yamaha NS-670
Orion Audio Bluebook: released in 1974; original price at $460/pair; current resale value at $45.
Stereo Review 1977 Directory: 3-way speaker system; 10 inch woofer, 2.5 inch midrange, 1.24 inch tweeter; freq. response 40-20K hertz; 50 watts continuous; midrange and tweeter controls; 8 ohms; 22.75X12.75X10.5
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i went to pier last saturday, new arrivals were mostly speakers. I saw these, Lo-D HS-70f flat diaphragms, Yamaha 460 and 690.
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SDA2 is a big floorstander. retailed at $1.2K brand new in mid '80s and still selling int eBay roughly $350 per pair. haven't used a Polk before but a friend of mine here in Davao treasures his pair of Polk CRS
they were really big, I'm now having secound thoughts due to space constraints. ::)
thanks sir sandawa.
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good day sirs,
i found a good looking pair of Polk Audio SDA2 speakers in a thrift shop and was tempted to bringi them home. I haven't heard them yet though as I was in a hurry to meet a friend. Has anybody has knowledge about these speakers, their SDA feature and the DIY interconnect cable as I didn't see any included with the pair? IIRC, its tweeter indicated Silver Coil tweeters, has two midrange and a round flat diaphragm woofer. I'll go back to the shop and investigate further.
thanks ;D
These are mid-80s high end speakers that defined what Mathew Polk termed as True Stereo speakers employing a unique set of drivers and crossover networks that are said to maintain true point source propagation. I think these are also part of their SRS holographic speaker systems where the left speaker progressively cancels the sound coming from the right speakers and vice versa so you achieve headphone quality stereo imaging. These series were my dream speakers at that time. I suppose they still are. ;D
If what you saw still uses the same drivers and crossovers, in short in mint condition, by all means get one. And if your room is not large enough to house them, get a bigger room or house. ;D Ofcourse don't forget to audition, my impressions are based on those oohs and aaahs on Stereo Review at the time. I don't recall these speakers were ever distributed locally at that time.
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i went to pier last saturday, new arrivals were mostly speakers. I saw these, Lo-D HS-70f flat diaphragms, Yamaha 460 and 690.
NS690
Sir...This is the one at Little Chatty? i think ako nakakuha nung Yamaha 690. I've been looking for either a yamaha NS500 or the 690 for a long while. One of the subwoofers conked out and one of the mid range speakers also conked after two days. My brother and I opened the unit. (sayang wala akong camera). Solid yung construction, malalaki ung mga speaker magnets. Thick and great looking plywood for the enclosure. One of the woofer wires was disconnected so we just soldered it. The mid range was harder to fix, but my brother found the open coil and with minimal effort reconnected the cut coil.
The 690 is now playing well again. All I can say is that I am very happy with the speaker.
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fpage.freett.com%2fknisi%2fns-6903.htm
LOD HS 70F
I also saw this unit and it looks good. Didnt audition it though. However, the model praised by the Japanese Nisi listing ist the higher model LoD 90F
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.niji.or.jp%2fhome%2fk-nisi%2fhs-90f.htm
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yes sir that was it. i asked the attendant about that and he said na yung outer rubber ng woofers were replaced and he did know the price yet. BTW, how much did you pay for the pair?
thanks.
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i went to pier last saturday, new arrivals were mostly speakers. I saw these, Lo-D HS-70f flat diaphragms, Yamaha 460 and 690.
sir, may nakita ba kayong mga TT sa pier? thanks! ;)
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once lang ako may nakita na Kenwood pero sobrang gaan nung inangat ko, nawalan ako ng interes tuloy...
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dennispm,
I am presently using the polk SDA-crs+ . This is the compact brother of the SDA2. So far I have been very happy with this . The soundstage is one of the widest I have ever heard. To really appreciate the speaker you need the interconnect. The right speaker is connected to the left SDA speaker via this interconnect. If you put the balance knob of your amp to full right, you will still hear a little music on the left speaker ( I think polk designed the SDA speaker to be out of phase with the opposite speaker) . This is what gives these speakers a wide soundstage. Hard to go into the technical aspects of this but you can read all about this here: http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/
If you decide to pass this purchase, I would be very interested to purchase this. I have been trying to look for one to pair with my crs+. let me know . tks
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ok sir. I hope they'll still be there when I go back.
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By the way the SDA2 does not use woofers but the flat thing in front is a passive radiator. I think this is something like a ported speaker but covered ang ports with the radiator.
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sir, may nakita ba kayong mga TT sa pier? thanks! ;)
Come to think of it. I seldom see turntables at the pier.
Last weekend I saw a Pioneer PL512 or 514 selling at 700 pesos. Walang rubber band and walang shell and needle.
Try also the thrift shop along aurora blvd. near EDSa.
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Come to think of it. I seldom see turntables at the pier.
Last weekend I saw a Pioneer PL512 or 514 selling at 700 pesos. Walang rubber band and walang shell and needle.
Try also the thrift shop along aurora blvd. near EDSa.
sir lordfoo, tayo ulit dito..hehehe..thanks again... :)
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Got my Third pair of surplus speaker from the PIER.
First was a Victor SX3
Second was a yamaha NS690.
Third is a Victor SX3III.
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how much did you get the SX3III? there's a pair here selling at P3.5K. i've heard surplus hifi prices in Manila has gone down significantly.
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I got the first pair (an SX3) for 2 thou and the 2nd pair (an SX3III) for 2.8thou.
I am intending to get a third pair of the SX3 to try a 6.1 Home theatre set up.
The SX3 is a mighty bookshelf. I also love the SX3's wood enclosure. I'll also schedule a change of capacitors of the units one of these days.
Maybe you can still push the SX3's price there a bit lower. Claim that:
a) its only a two-way speaker,
b) it is only 50 watter and\
3) the Brand (Victor) is not as well known as Pioneer, Sansui or yamaha. ;D
Foo
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Try also the thrift shop along aurora blvd. near EDSa.
medyo OT, san po ba nakakabili ng mga plaka sa may cubao? thanks ;D
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HI Cire,
Diyan po sa Thrift shop sa aurora blvd cubao, mayroong LPs. but they sell it at 50 pesos each. They're all US made though.
Foo
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HI Cire,
Diyan po sa Thrift shop sa aurora blvd cubao, mayroong LPs. but they sell it at 50 pesos each. They're all US made though.
Foo
walking distance lang from edsa cor aurora blvd? musta naman ang mga condition sir? thanks again sir Lord Foo... ;)
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got a Coral X-Vfive at pier for P4.5k cant find sa net..
But it looks like this..
http://page.freett.com/knisi/x-7.htm
the only differrence is that mine a 10" version..
so far very clean/detailed sounding
tried it with Sansui AU-907F, Carver M-500t, Scott 228B
Cd player Sony CDP-X33ES and CDP-555ESJ
and for me way better than those currently production speaker..
sir rascal101 also got a Pioneer s-77 twin SD for P5.5k
He choose between Diatone DS-77EX for P6k and this Pioneer..
but due to space kya pinili nya ung floorstander na Pioneer..
both speaker are still in their good condition specially the diatone
parang bago pa.. makinis wala pang repair ung mga drivers..
I also wanted to get this Diatone
kya lng dami ko ng surplus speakers..
cheers!
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So ikaw pala kumuha ng pioneer twinSD ha! ;)
Ganda ng Coral mo. I got Technics SB-501 :). Real wood box and veneer panels. All speaker parts are in their original condition. 92dB/W, 20-30kHz, 12in LF / 8cm dome MID / 1cm dome HF. 19kg, acoustic suspension type.
http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/TECHNICS/speaker/sb-501.html
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So ikaw pala kumuha ng pioneer twinSD ha! ;)
Ganda ng Coral mo. I got Technics SB-501 :). Real wood box and veneer panels. All speaker parts are in their original condition. 92dB/W, 20-30kHz, 12in LF / 8cm dome MID / 1cm dome HF. 19kg, acoustic suspension type.
http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/TECHNICS/speaker/sb-501.html
sir, how much kuha nyo dito? thanks ...
(http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1161/technics6jo.jpg)
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5.5k daw >:( . sabi ko 4k ::) . na get ko 4.5k ;D
Gagawin kong subwoofer - 20hz ang abot eh - acoustic suspension pa/ accurate bass daw. may separate amp naman ako. Iniisip ko ngayon what to do with the MID/High speaker drivers! ;D ;D ;D
Onkyo DX-77XG dapat kukunin ko, katabi nung diatone DS-77EX. 6.5k daw. dare ko sa 5k, bumibigay. Itinulog ko muna. Then I spotted SB-501 the next day. Sayang nga eh, 4k sana. ;D ;D ;D
Also spotted Peerless/Japan 6-inch full range in unused beautiful vintage box, with complete plastic wrapping. 3-pairs. Got all for 1.2k. heard of 6.1 HT in high-sensitvity full-range compliments? heaven! :o ;D
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5.5k daw >:( . sabi ko 4k ::) . na get ko 4.5k ;D
thanks sir.. ;D
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... Onkyo DX-77XG dapat kukunin ko, katabi nung diatone DS-77EX. 6.5k daw. dare ko sa 5k, bumibigay. Itinulog ko muna. Then I spotted SB-501 the next day. Sayang nga eh, 4k sana. ;D ;D ;D
Also spotted Peerless/Japan 6-inch full range in unused beautiful vintage box, with complete plastic wrapping. 3-pairs. Got all for 1.2k. heard of 6.1 HT in high-sensitvity full-range compliments? heaven! :o ;D
that full-range 6-inch Peerless could be worth over $25 each in mint condition. a friend bought a pair of Peerless tweeters recently in the US at about $40. as per Yahoo Japan auction records, current average used price for Onkyo DX-77XG is roughly 25,000 yen while Diatone DS-77EX is about 10,000 yen (the newer Diatone DS-77Z is in the same price bracket as Onkyo's DX-77XG.)
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that full-range 6-inch Peerless could be worth over $25 each in mint condition. a friend bought a pair of Peerless tweeters recently in the US at about $40. as per Yahoo Japan auction records, current average used price for Onkyo DX-77XG is roughly 25,000 yen while Diatone DS-77EX is about 10,000 yen (the newer Diatone DS-77Z is in the same price bracket as Onkyo's DX-77XG.)
Sir, kung gusto kong sumikip sa bahay namin, kakanain ko rin yung onkyo eh! even not on the price, its metrics is outstanding. But the surround of the woofer have been replaced - how much effect would it have in its performance?
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5.5k daw >:( . sabi ko 4k ::) . na get ko 4.5k ;D
Gagawin kong subwoofer - 20hz ang abot eh - acoustic suspension pa/ accurate bass daw. may separate amp naman ako. Iniisip ko ngayon what to do with the MID/High speaker drivers! ;D ;D ;D
Onkyo DX-77XG dapat kukunin ko, katabi nung diatone DS-77EX. 6.5k daw. dare ko sa 5k, bumibigay. Itinulog ko muna. Then I spotted SB-501 the next day. Sayang nga eh, 4k sana. ;D ;D ;D
Also spotted Peerless/Japan 6-inch full range in unused beautiful vintage box, with complete plastic wrapping. 3-pairs. Got all for 1.2k. heard of 6.1 HT in high-sensitvity full-range compliments? heaven! :o ;D
ganda naman nung Technics speakers mo. makapunta nga ng pier. sana makahanap din ako nung peerless full range speakers. :)
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congrats sa inyo. dumadami na tayo dito, dati rati kami kami lang nila sir sandawa dito.
dapt my group pic tayo within the pier. hehehe
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Mga Sirs,
Nakailang urong sulong din ako sa Diatone DS-77EX at Pioneer S-77twinSD. Binayaran ko ng 6k para sa Diatone iyung mama and then binawi ko then sabi ko sige na nga Diatone. Then much later binawi ko and said finally Pioneer. Up to know hindi ko alam if I made the right choice.
Rascal101
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Is it possible to get decent speakers with a budget of just, say, 4K?
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hi I might be off topic here but then again...baka may interesado sa inyo rito...
(don't know where to post this ::) )
http://www.ebay.ph/viItem?ItemId=5850412830
im selling this for my brother he left our country 4 good na....
here's my contact number 0927 722 76 22
thanks
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Mga Sirs,
Nakailang urong sulong din ako sa Diatone DS-77EX at Pioneer S-77twinSD. Binayaran ko ng 6k para sa Diatone iyung mama and then binawi ko then sabi ko sige na nga Diatone. Then much later binawi ko and said finally Pioneer. Up to know hindi ko alam if I made the right choice.
Rascal101
So ikaw pala yumari ng 77twinSD huh! You made the right choice! ;)
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Is it possible to get decent speakers with a budget of just, say, 4K?
what is decent to you?
I have noted the diatone DS-32B (3k) and DS-181W (2.5k) to be competent, and you can haggle them for much lower price pa. There are a lot of 5k price point in pier which you can haggle down to 4k. In selecting, be sure to open your eyes and check the drivers carefully (sign of modified surrounds, dust cap, etc etc.) The DS series I noted above are very clean (read "unaltered")
My main speakers now much lower than 2k - diamond 8.1 alternate for some materials not appropriate for my main speakers.
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how would i know if the speakers were modified? thanks for the info, I really appreciate it!
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There are a lot of shops at the pier, including the big ones that I personally know of, that do have busted drivers not just reconed but also rewound. By looking at the surround of the big drivers, check if the foam is very fresh. If it looks fairly new, check also the edge of the surround on the cone, pag may maitim na circumference sa loob, sign yan nung rugby na ginamit pandikit :) Try pushing the driver in, tignan kung matigas pa ang surrounds. To be sure na di nakalikot, try getting exotic design na drivers. Para sigurado di makalikot dahil walang pampalit dito.
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There are a lot of shops at the pier, including the big ones that I personally know of, that do have busted drivers not just reconed but also rewound. By looking at the surround of the big drivers, check if the foam is very fresh. If it looks fairly new, check also the edge of the surround on the cone, pag may maitim na circumference sa loob, sign yan nung rugby na ginamit pandikit :) Try pushing the driver in, tignan kung matigas pa ang surrounds. To be sure na di nakalikot, try getting exotic design na drivers. Para sigurado di makalikot dahil walang pampalit dito.
This is a good tip ...
Further,
Take note of the models first and then research in the internet about the models before going back for testing and haggling. This is to familiarize how the original drivers looks like. (not all models are available in the internet though).
check the screws of all the drivers - are they all the same or similar? dapat! may kulang ba, o naibang screw (also at the back which usually is the opening of the eraly speaker systems) - di dapat!
The surround - if it is a good-looking foam surround - then it is new one (altered na). If not, check unusual glue in its vicinity. A clean surround vicinity (no unsighty dried glue nearby) indicated untouched surround. Typically, look for speakers that used treated cloth surround or the rubber surround - these are labelled indestructible surround materials. Diatone, technics almost always use this type. Onkyo & pioneer typically uses foam type which degrades overtime (but not all models though) and really requires replacement.
The dust cap, check if there is also an unsighty dried glue in its vicinity - the presence indicate a possible rewound coil.
Check all drivers identical to Left & right. I have encounters na hindi halata, but in close inspection, the HF drivers are not the original (turned out to be the Konzert brand which can be bought sa raon) - this is visual inspection, and I mean open your eyes with close scrutiny to every detail.
Listen. with 1 speaker at a time - at low volume - checking the sound of each driver by placing your ear close to each driver - observe smoothness of sound from midrange and tweeters. Then at loud volume, checking same loudness emanates from both speakers and no crackling sound whatsoever.
Speakers which seems to have a lot of dust in the drivers is also a good indicator that the units are untouched.
Play with MID and HI controls if it respond to the rotation.
Lastly, if you are satisfied with the sound it reproduce using your familiar CD materials, then you have your best bet in your hands.
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Thanks so much for the tips! Do you guys go to Pier on a regular basis? Baka pwedeng makisabay sa inyo so you can give me hands on tips, hehe.
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dapt my group pic tayo within the pier. hehehe
hahahaha...bigla ako natawa dito attorney! ;D ;D ;D sama ako sa group pic ha! ;D ;D ;D
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Mga Sirs,
Nakailang urong sulong din ako sa Diatone DS-77EX at Pioneer S-77twinSD. Binayaran ko ng 6k para sa Diatone iyung mama and then binawi ko then sabi ko sige na nga Diatone. Then much later binawi ko and said finally Pioneer. Up to know hindi ko alam if I made the right choice.
Rascal101
you made the right choice if based on used re-sale pricing at Yahoo Japan. historical average completed auction price for Diatone DS-77EX is only slightly above 10,000 yen. for Pioneer S-77 Twin SD, the quoted average price is about 20,000 yen.
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Buti na lang ...
ty Sir Sandawa and aHobbit. :)
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Sali ako, pang surplus lang din beauty ko eh. Ano bang magandang 3-way dyan sa Pier? Pang hi-fi music lang.
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Sali ako, pang surplus lang din beauty ko eh. Ano bang magandang 3-way dyan sa Pier? Pang hi-fi music lang.
Hi Maynard welcome to the surplus Groupies :)
I suggest you visit the pier armed with a list of good units. I myself buy units listed at a japanese website.
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/
The Japanese list has never failed me yet. The units that I bought are all in the list. i.e. a Yamaha NS690, two pairs of Victor SX3. (for amps - Yamaha CA1000, Pioneer SA9500, Sansui Au707Gextra, Sony VFETS.)
Besides, I firmly believe that the items in the list will have higher resale values since you can point potential buyers later to the site.
regards,
Foo
p.s. Translate the Japanese site using altavista http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr
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This is a big help. Trying it right now. Thanks for accepting me in the group. ;D
And also merong ka bang maisa-suggest? Since I'm a noobie in boxed audio.
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off the top of my head...
If you get lucky.. try looking for the top surplus yamahas.... NS1000m (jackpot ito), NS500m, NS690.
Still... it will be a little useless to mention specific speakers... you probably won't find them at the pier when you visit. It will be better if you bring the list...and check out any speaker at the pier included in the list...
I've seen several speakers on the list at the pier... i've purchased a Yamaha NS690 and a Victor SX3 and am extremely satisfied with them. Of the ones i auditioned but didnt buy... i was always happy with the performances of the speakers but was often blocked by the selling prices...(i always want to get a bargain unit - that's my problem).
I once went through all the stores listing all the speakers that they have... then i went home and checked out all the units in the net. heheh. When I came back to get the unit i liked... it was gone!!!
I've seen a Sony SSG7, a Pioneer S180a... Yamaha NS500, Sony APM77 among others.
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Thanks. I have an NS10M-T but the other one has a busted tweeter. What do you think I should do with it.
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Di ba yan sir ung near field monitor? Are the NS10M and NS10M-T similar units? They are a standard in the professional recording industry. Students often choose these monitors for their mixing work because they simulate the sound of smaller consumer speakers (car radio speakers, tv speakers, etc.).
http://www.cdmasteringservices.com/ns10nearfieldmonitors.htm
http://www.cdmasteringservices.com/pressreleaseNS10s.htm
http://www.skidmore.edu/academics/music/att/ns10.html
I saw an ad for a replacement tweeter for the NS10m http://www.datamediastore.com/proaudiovideo-ns10.html
USD 117. Nakufoo!!!
Di na ba kayang irepair ung tweeter sir? I think you should hold on to your NS10M's ...
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you made the right choice if based on used re-sale pricing at Yahoo Japan. historical average completed auction price for Diatone DS-77EX is only slightly above 10,000 yen. for Pioneer S-77 Twin SD, the quoted average price is about 20,000 yen.
Sir if this unit is same unit being sold by Little Chatty, then I concur with sir Sandawa. I auditioned that unit and was on the brink of getting it except I saw a Victor SX3iii also being sold. I compared the two and the Pioneer had more power. The bass was more powerful. The mids and high more forward. (more distinct?). I opted for the Victor SX3 only because i already had a pair and have plans to acquire three pairs for a 6.1 home theatre project.
foo.
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Oo eto nga yon. Ganito sya oh.
(http://www.yamaha.com/images/NS10MT.gif)
http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/Specs/?gSPK00010NS-10MT
Sinubukang kong ipa-repair sa Deeco, hindi ko pa nakukuha, lagi akong pinababalik, I think did they a good job... of messing it up real good. May pag-asa pa ba yong maayos?
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Parang gusto ko 'to ah. Meron kaya nito sa somewhere?
(http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/ONKYO/speaker/samgrandscepter.JPG)
ONKYO Grand Scepter GS - 1
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Sir if this unit is same unit being sold by Little Chatty, then I concur with sir Sandawa. I auditioned that unit and was on the brink of getting it except I saw a Victor SX3iii also being sold. I compared the two and the Pioneer had more power. The bass was more powerful. The mids and high more forward. (more distinct?). I opted for the Victor SX3 only because i already had a pair and have plans to acquire three pairs for a 6.1 home theatre project.
foo.
It is the store opposite Little Chattys. The name is Charisa Appliances Trading.
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KEF's highs really don't sizzle i think, since that also were a bit off for my 101/s2 compared with my other speakers. maganda ang low and middle ng original 101s2, but the highs are a little lacking. what i did was to change the UniQ configuration, got a pair Wharfedale Modus Vivendi tweeters and mounted these on top of the box and the result was significantly more pleasing highs. the new KEF Reference series already have tweeters mounted on top.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/kef3.jpg)
the KEF101s2 with a Wharf Modus Vivendi tweeters mounted on top. its highs now sound more pleasing. the original is UniQ design with the HF unit in the middle hole of the LF's voice coil.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/kef2.jpg)
6 of 9 pairs of speakers in my little room. wife kicked me out of the master's bedroom years ago due to my increasing collection of what she calls "junk" (vintage) hifi - KEF101s2 and JBL316Pro on top of Epos 14 and Denon SC104 which sit on Diatone DSa7 and Design Acoustics PS10.
Chief,
Pati yung epos sa Pier mo nakuha? Mukhang sariwa pa yan ah, magkakano ganyan dun?
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the Epos, KEF and JBL shown in photo were all acquired brand new. KEF 101s2 and JBL 306Pro were bought here in Davao (RJ Homes appliance store) in 2001. the Epos 14 was from a shop in Pacific Place in Hong Kong, discounted store demo unit (HK$4,000), in 1999. RJ Homes also had an Epos 14 sold at only P9K but only one unit, not a pair, was told the other unit was messed up somewhere in their bodega. i still should have bought it - for HT center speaker use - but a guy from Cotabato beat me to it.
what you'll get as surplus audio gear at Manila's pier and also here in Davao are recycled units of Japanese brands such as the Diatone DS-a7 and the Denon SC-104 which are also shown in photo. the US-made Design Acoustics PS-10 hardly seen below the photo was from American Surplus store in Cagayan de Oro City, below Xavier U's gym.
the surplus unit Diatone (Mitsubishi) DS-a7 is a jackpot i think, it's comparable with good bookshelf speakers from the US and UK. check out this comparison by a Japanese audio website: http://tukipie.net/audio/SPEAKER_jenre.htm
it's at par with the LS 3/5s of KEF, Spendor, Rogers, and Harbeth; Sonus Faber's Concertino; Dali's Royal Menuet and better than B&W's 601 to 604 series. i bought it almost mint condition here in Davao at P3.5K.
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/b.jpg)
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Yesterday I saw a pair of Diatone DS-501 for P6.5K
for those interested dun sya sa last store near BPI
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/ds-501.jpg)
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ask ko po,. anong date maganda pumunta sa pier? wala pong definite na araw un datingan ng bago? thanks po
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Yesterday I saw a pair of Diatone DS-501 for P6.5K
for those interested dun sya sa last store near BPI
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/ds-501.jpg)
probably not worth P6.5K considering it's re-sale price in Yahoo Japan ranges only from 10,000 to 15,000 yen.
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Oo eto nga yon. Ganito sya oh.
(http://www.yamaha.com/images/NS10MT.gif)
http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/Specs/?gSPK00010NS-10MT
Sinubukang kong ipa-repair sa Deeco, hindi ko pa nakukuha, lagi akong pinababalik, I think did they a good job... of messing it up real good. May pag-asa pa ba yong maayos?
your revised Yamaha NS-10 looks better, and a bit different, compared with the original NS-10M studio monitor whose production in Japan was discontinued for environmental reasons. the original NS-10M's woofer is made of paper from the pulp of an endangered Japanese tree species.
(http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/7408/picture0372ns.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0372ns.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/2370/picture0661pd.th.jpg) (http://img35.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0661pd.jpg)
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Hi Im new here, Im planning to buy a Pioneer Linear Power Speakers Floorstander sya (I 4got d model # Grrrr!) I'll post it here pag nakabalik ako sa shop...
need your expert advices...
The speakers are still new kaso naluma dahil d nabili at kalilipat lipat ng store yung mismong box nya nagkaroon ng mga tama yung mga kanto as is all the sides may tama...
Ask ko lang may alam ba kayong nagrerestore ng speaker boxes...nanghihinayang kasi ako sa price offer almost 70% binigay kasi sa akin ng store owner, he's honest enough naman to admit na palugi na nyang binebenta..Need ur advise. I want to restore it's Box bago kasi yung mga speakers..
I'll be using them for my front speakers ...
thanx...
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@sandawa
Ganoon pala itsura ng unang NS10.
But I think mine also has the same pulp material and I think this model is also discontinued.
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the original NS-10Ms were discontinued in 2001, i think. Yamaha, due to a huge international demand from recording studios, decided to resume production in 2002 but using different materials for its paper cones. i was told even Taiwan is now producing imitations of NS-10Ms.
as recording engineers put it: "if it sounds good on the NS-10M during the mastering process, it would sound better when played on any other hifi speaker at home." two more websites for those interested in these legendary nearfield monitors:
http://www.bobhodas.com/tissue.html
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jun02/articles/monitors.asp
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HI Sir Sandawa, Sir Maynard, makasingit na po.
I have this notion that when speaker production shifted to Malaysia, Thailand, China, Mexico etc. due to the high cost of production in Japan, North America, or Europe their quality dropped dramatically.
I started looking for the old models made in US, Japan and Europe. I've always had this idea of looking for the older speakers usually made using real wood and not "saw dust" is better use of my money. I once bought a complete set of award winning Tannoy Speakers made in China and am not happy with them. In fact i am much happier with OLD Victor SX3 speakers i bought at a fraction of the tannoy's cost.
However, lately i haven't auditoned new speakers with the seriousness and intensity i do when checking out old speakers. For all I know the newer ones sound better than the vintage speakers except that they cost more.
That's why I love this "surplus" thread.
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true. some new speakers should sound better but they also should cost more, considering inflation. besides, the developments in speaker technology these past two decades were never radical, more on cosmetics. two weeks ago i was in Makati auditioning new gear and i'm convinced that a good vintage amp/speaker combination could match, or exceed, performance of expensive systems. one combination i listened to was worth P150K but to my ears, that was at least two notches below what my reference amp/speaker combination could achieve. it was more like mid-level sound in my collection, but which others may see as truly high-end because of the systems' looks.
but, again, there are exceptions. i used to believe only US- and UK-made speakers could be described as truly hifi. it was only lately, thru this thread, that i discovered high-quality Jap speakers could also sound very good. another example was a surplus Aiwa small bookshelf Thailand-made i bought from a trader here in Davao last week for its looks. it's standing right next to my old Wharf Diamond 4 for a week now and all i could say was that the Aiwa (which is popular only for its tape decks) is almost comparable with UK-made Diamond 4 speakers rated Best Buy by What Hifi and Hifi Choice in early '90s. i could only conclude that the Thais probably did their best on these tiny Aiwa to make a favorable impression considering the competition on bookshelf speaker types. of course, we all know that competition pushes quality up and prices down.
without these cheap surplus gear, Makati audio shops' prices would go up, up and away! here are my tiny Aiwas, bought at P1.8K, about the size of Diamond 4:
(http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/2619/1aiwa3fv.th.jpg) (http://img211.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1aiwa3fv.jpg)
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Hi Sir Sandawa,
Those AIWA's look as good as the Operetta speakers.
Out of Topic...
I was at the evangelista thrift shops a while back scrounging around for LPs and the store owner offered me a pair of Infinity speakers he had stored in his house. He said they were Infinity Kappa 9's.
I was flabbergasted... I have Kappa 7's and I value the pair as much as my AR90 and my Ns1000m. I got excited but of course didnt show it ... and of course I asked for his selling price...
Boy i was more Flabbergasted when he mentioned P80,000.00 I guess the kappa 9 is out of my league... but for a while there I thought the Holy Grail of the Infinity Kappa series was within my reach. :))
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So you should really go for the vintage huh? Thanks for the tip. Now I should really visit to the surplus shops.
Gusto ko rin sana magpa-custom kaw nirvblkr, okay ba talaga yung mga gawa nya?
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evangelista in bangkal right? that should be an interesting place to look for some vintage gear.
except i think if the fella priced those kappa 9s at 80k, he was already pricing in the cost of its being vintage. that is already collectors' price. would be great to walk around those places and happily find speakers or any gear for that matter that is priced to be sold, or at times priced as disposable na, and then realize that the item is a rare collectible.
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when i was starting this hobby back in the '80s, before these Japanese surplus gear showed up, there were four sources of used hifi: the Bulletin ads, which could offer some surprises; small shops that sell stuff from Saudi (mostly Japanese low- to mid-fi); Bangkal where traders get their US and European audio equipment from yardsale in Makati's exclusive villages; and Dau where new or slightly used gear from Clark's off-duty commissary are sold openly at big discounts.
those from Clark are the best, in condition and quality, but you could get very lucky with true gems from the Bulletin ads and Bangkal traders. back then, some high-end units such as those of Conrad Johnson, Bedini, Krell, etc. would also show up in Raon but those were consigned used units of rich audio enthusiasts, mostly Chinoys, who have upgraded their systems.
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Yes, i meant Evangelista, Bangkal. Audio gear sometimes are available there but I guess they are not as plenty as in the Pier. Once in a while you can get lucky and find nice items there. You have to visit the place often though. I found my AR18 there. However, many a time have I gone there and gone home empty handed. It is still the pier where there are lots of audio gear available.
I guess Dau won't have much audio equipment now with the American Base gone. There must have been a lot of used american audio gear there when the american base was still intact. Boy! when pinatubo erupted and the americans left in the wake of the volcanic dust .... there must have been tons of audio gear left behind. I wonder where they went.
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Hehe, my uncles and I went to Dau regularly even before mount pinatubo erupted. We usually get cheap cds there and some nice speakers. After the eruption, that's when prices started falling. My uncles got 4 or 5 pairs of inifinity and JBLS floorstanders, and I mean BIG floorstanders. The ones I got were Polks floor standers. We even went house to house sometimes, thats where we found speaker cables made of silver. According to the homeowner, that's the same cables the Americans used in the radio station at the base. I also have those annual catalogs of american audio equipment being sold in the base for american soldiers stationed there. We usually contact an army friend inside, who'll buy the speakers inside the base, load it in his trunk, while we wait outside the base for delivery :)
Btw, been to the pier last week and today, saw 2 pairs of Onkyo D-200 Liverpool speakers, ganda ng itsura, yun nga lang, di maganda pagkagawa ng bagong dikit na foam surround. Pinakinggan ko, didn't like the sound much. Matinis sobra ang onkyos in my opinion. For those interested, chatty has a pair of Victor SX-3 ver II. Ok na sana, yun nga lang yung isang speaker, mahina na tweeter, malapit na ata bumigay.
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may nakita po akong diatone speaker nagbebenta. 3way 10inch woofer nya with adjustments un lo mid hi.
maganda model kaya ito? thanks. 5thou selling
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My uncles got 4 or 5 pairs of inifinity and JBLS floorstanders, and I mean BIG floorstanders. The ones I got were Polks floor standers.
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Sir DOHBERT
do u recall what the infinity models are? I am a big fan of the old infinity speakers
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Hi guys! Have anyone of you, by chance browsed the website for the following subwoofers & speakers?
Subwoofer:
ONKYO - SL-R70
YAMAHA KPS - SW 501
YAMAHA KPS - SW 305
Note: all the above speakers have terminals for 2 pairs of speakers. They are not the square type (i mean squared baffles but rectangular ones standing vertically).
Speaker:
Pioneer S-J7-Q (these are the speakers for Pioneer Empressario)
SONY APM-V705AV
VICTOR SX3
I would really appreciate if you could direct me to the sites of the abovementioned items.
Thanks a lot!
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BTW, a friend is selling me these
ONKYO - SL-R70
YAMAHA KPS - SW 501
YAMAHA KPS - SW 305
VICTOR SX3 - ver III
for P4.5K each. Mura na ba? I need your feedbacks and advice guys.
Thanks!!
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BTW, a friend is selling me these
ONKYO - SL-R70
YAMAHA KPS - SW 501
YAMAHA KPS - SW 305
VICTOR SX3 - ver III
for P4.5K each. Mura na ba? I need your feedbacks and advice guys.
Thanks!!
The SX3 are two way bookshelves. I like them a lot and have 2 pairs and am looking for more units. The price is a bit steep for 4.5k IMO since they are sold at the Pier for much less. These are very nice speakers for small rooms.
Check out the japanese audio site.
http://www.niji.or.jp/home/k-nisi/index.html
(http://page.freett.com/knisi/sx-3-h.jpg)
By the way, I checked out the pier today. Came home empty handed.
However, I saw two pairs of 15 inch speakers and a jbl pair at Little Chattys.
One of the 15 inchers is a Realistic speaker, and the other is a sonic something...
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The JBL at chatty's are not real JBLs. They jus veneered it and used a JBL sticker on it. Sony ata yun originally. ;D
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Ganun po ba Sir Dohbert? Hahah. I didn't even check out the JBL and the two 15 inch speakers. I noticed the veneer and veered away from the JBL. Likewise the 15 inchers seemed to have boxes quite small for 15 inch woofers.
"matumal" daw benta sabi nung sales person na nakausap ko. Some of their sales people are given more day-offs during the week. I don't know if this will translate to lower prices.
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Sir, matumal dahil di na gaano marami pumapasok na units from Japan, these are being sent to China or Vietnam instead, they have a bigger surplus market there. These days, ang ginagawa nila is place orders for specific models they like, then wait at month's end kung dumating orders nila, otherwise, pagpipiliaan nila yung dumating sa 1 na container. Mostly, pumapasok ngayon are refs, understandable, considering tag init na.
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hey i live in evanghelista, bangkal...ive never seen surplus speakers for sale though...i guess i gotta look some more ...meron paba nagbebenta sa pier ng surplus speakers? im looking for cheap floor standers and cheap subwoofer..hehe
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Just recently purchased the ff: speakers
1. Aurex SS-F07 (sorry no pictures yet)
- Doesn't have any review in the internet (not that I am aware of)
- To me it has excellent vocals
- Good imaging
- Low and high frequency reproduction is very good
2. Sony SS-A5 (La Voce)
- review here http://www.kameson.com/audio/SS-A5.htm (pls use Babelfish to translate)
(http://www.kameson.com/audio/image/PICT2146.JPG)
(http://www.kameson.com/audio/image/PICT2153.JPG)
(http://www.kameson.com/audio/image/PICT2125.JPG)
Here is what he says of the tweeter
"Around the tweeter as for the baffle it is part, but it has become 2 piles. It is the semi hard type
diaphragm which uses the bio cellulose which 3 corporations of the SONY & Ajinomoto Co., Inc. & Agency
of Industrial Science and Technology Research Institute for Polymers & Textiles developed jointly. It is not
to press to process to dome type, you asked that from beginning it grows the fiber in the mold of dome
type. The bio cellulose is the cellulose which the bacterium which is called the acetobacter creates. The
bio cellulose is used for also the portion of the single unit sale unit of FOSTEX, but it is unclear from
equality with those which SONY uses. With SONY this bio cellulose is used as a diaphragm of the
headphone. Also patent is taken.
Separated method of bio cellulose
Bio-polymer research: Patent 2766182
Production method of the bacterium cellulose which uses PQQ non formation stocks
Bio polymer research: Patent 2767551
The bio cellulose (the bacterium cellulose) purity to be higher than the cellulose which the plant makes,
because minute structure (1/100) it is extraordinary the cellulose fiber of the plant, for example various
merits (, because young's modulus has about the same as the aluminum), as a new material it is the
material which is expected. Culture it can do to be done, with such as coconut fruit juice to remove the
cellulose in several days so is. The azotobacter melts permeating the protein disassembly enzyme, so is.
The bio cellulose was expected as a disassembly characteristic plastic, but price becomes the problem and
has not spread."
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Just recently purchased the ff: speakers
1. Aurex SS-F07 (sorry no pictures yet)
- Doesn't have any review in the internet (not that I am aware of)
- To me it has excellent vocals
- Good imaging
- Low and high frequency reproduction is very good
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Last year, I got a pair of "ugly" Aurex (Toshiba) speakers (very heavy SS-510, 3-way with 10-inch woofer) simply because it was offered to me cheap at P1.6K. I thought it probably won't sound very bad considering Toshiba is an electronics giant. I found out later it sounded better (to my ears) than some of my mid to upscale British and US speakers and would likely beat some demo speakers in boutique hifi shops in Makati costing 20 times.
Ganito ka pangit (reminds me of the cheap 'baffles' sold in Raon in the '80s):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/aurex1.jpg)
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The Aurex (4.5k) and Sony (3.5k) speakers are currently being auditioned by my friend. He says that the Aurex are very good for band recordings but not so much for critical listening. The Sony speakers are very good in vocals but lacking in instruments. High frequency reproduction is a bit weak and base is a bit boomy so he says.
The Aurex SS-F07 has 2 big brothers that I am aware of, the SS-F50 and SS-F90. Based on the review at Niji the SS-F90 seem to be a very good speaker. It's little brother SS-F07 may have some technology trickled down from its bigger brother.
I was taken by the review in the link www.kameson.com/audio/ for the Sony speakers so I gambled on this speakers. Based on this feedback, if you are the type who want this for all around performance you probably need to tweak the crossovers or change the wires.
Over 2 years ago I bought a Pioneer S-77twinSD floorstander. After a while, I got tired of the sound and just a few days ago wanted to sell it. Little did I know that these speakers can sound very good pala. Luckily I found above link and saw the construction, details on the drivers and crossovers. Wow! Maganda pala siya. The baffle design is good, the tweeter is attached firmly on the baffles and the woofer driver construction is also good. Only the crossovers and the wires still have room for improvement. As such, I'm off to modifying the crossovers and the wires. hehehe
This is what I plan to do http://www.kameson.com/audio/S-77TWINSD.htm
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The Aurex (4.5k) and Sony (3.5k) speakers are currently being auditioned by my friend. He says that the Aurex are very good for band recordings but not so much for critical listening. The Sony speakers are very good in vocals but lacking in instruments. High frequency reproduction is a bit weak and base is a bit boomy so he says.
rascal ... try to test other amps on the speakers ... I think the test made is with a single amp (what amp are you using?) - ;D ;D ;D
offer mo sa akin kung anu man ang pinagpaguran mo ha? :D
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My friend has a Carver and an Onkyo integrated. Can't remember the model nos. Iuuwi ko na iyung Aurex next week. The Sony will stay with my friend - bibilhin niya sa akin. Will test the Aurex on a Sansui AU-D907F and a NEC A700. Kung hindi ako masiyahan eh gawan ng paraan hehehe ...
Heard you had a NEC A10. Kumusta tunog nun?
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My friend has a Carver and an Onkyo integrated. Can't remember the model nos. Iuuwi ko na iyung Aurex next week. The Sony will stay with my friend - bibilhin niya sa akin. Will test the Aurex on a Sansui AU-D907F and a NEC A700. Kung hindi ako masiyahan eh gawan ng paraan hehehe ...
Heard you had a NEC A10. Kumusta tunog nun?
It is the NEC A-10II - I have it paired with a audio-technica WEGA TT / JVC 1bit CDP / Panasonic hifi VHS. it sounds very clean & crystalline. its with me for 4 years na, and I have not put it yet in its permanent place - always experimenting with something else pa - but have permanent plans for it in its final resting place. Pa gwagwapuhin ko pa, to mate with my 2nd pair of Coral 10incher full range.
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2nd pair ba kamo ng Coral? Ikaw ba iyung nakakuha ng Coral sa Pier recently ~ 3-4weeks ago? Tagal ko ng naghahanap ng Coral. Kung nagsasawa ka na sa tunog ng Coral PM mo lang ako.
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Ok. You guys gave me enough curiosity to go all the way to the pier and have my own personal impressions of these jap speakers. I already own a very good pair of floorstanders, but because of the price of these speakers I can afford to have another pair of bookshelves.
I tried several models, but for me the warmest sound from their solid state amps came out of these speakers:
DIATONE DS-15B
(http://www11.plala.or.jp/se_ke5583/DIATONE/diatoneds/ds-15b.JPG)
System 2 way 2 speakers acoustic air suspension system
Bookshelf type
Use unit For bass: 20cm cone type
For treble: 4cm cone type
Nominal impedance 6 Ω
Playback frequency zone 45Hz - 20000Hz
Crossover frequency 2000Hz
Output overpressure value 90dB/W/m
Largest input 60W
External size Width 240× height 415× depth 241mm
Weight 9kg
Remark Net grille attachment
I was surprised since I laid their amps to flat treble and flat bass, and still the sound oh was so warm. I told myself that these are amazing...zing...zingly :D warm and the fact that they are only using a Kenwood Integrated amp rated only at 90 watts. :o I tested them with Harry Belafonte CD's - Live at Carnegian Hall, Harry and the Blues. Also tried Nat King Cole and Trio. Best for the price. I've already listened to many bookshelves and know what my ear likes and dislikes. This baby surprises my ear to the max. I asked myself "Sigurado bang ganyan tunog niyan kasi for the price of Php2.2k, the Php50k bookshelves would have a hard time of being sold." Checked out the condition and all was in its original state. A few nicks on the body but it doesn't matter.
The other speakers only lasted about 20 seconds when tested with my CD's. Either masakit tweeter sa tenga and too metalic, or too much bass, or sound was so thin. This is why my choosing of speakers went so fast. I've also tried the 3 way speakers. For it's size I wouldn't even consider it. I listened to it and knew at once that the 2 way speakers would be best for tubes. Natural, uncolored music is what I describe this speaker. It's high's were also sweet, but for strings my ribbons definitely overtakes this faster than a lighting strikes. My ears definitely knew what it wanted. With this, panalo. Grabe, Im happy with this buy. Patricia Barber, get ready for papa ! hehe. ;D
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kala ko tube-hunter ka lang, dockers ka na rin pala!
eto hanap ko - ribbon sound -bakasakaling tumapat sa redroseribbon-sounding speaker mo ;D ;D ;D
Otto electrostatic/ribbon speakers
Specs:
33 cm x 58 cm x 30 cm (wLd)
Hi- Flat Film Diaphram
Mid- 12 cm honeycomb disc
Low- 25 cm Honeycomb disc
3 way system.
bengbeng boys (senyors wanderlust & hans_adriane) wherever you are, pahiram po ng picture. tnx :)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030371.jpg)
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kala ko tube-hunter ka lang, dockers ka na rin pala!
eto hanap ko - ribbon sound -bakasakaling tumapat sa redroseribbon-sounding speaker mo ;D ;D ;D
nyahahaha ! better place mundorf caps in that one as well. That looks power hungry. I go away from large woofers especially for tube amps. It would work but not like the sound with monoblock 845's. Either manipis bass or sobrang kapal ng bass. It would always be the listeners preference. Kaya to be safe for tubes, get a smaller diameter woofer with high sensitivity. Ever noticed what veteran audiophile's speakers are when it comes to tubes?
However, those kinds of speakers with big woofers and no bass port at the back would go well with vintage solid state gears that are 230 watt and higher ratings. I would choose that over any set up that is being sold in any shop.
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For tweeter crossover, placing even common branded polypropelene caps (eg Mundorf MCAP, Evox MKP etc) then putting a discharge resistor (~ 100ohm) I believe would be a better solution than just simply replacing the series cap with a very good capacitor (eg Mundorf Supreme/oil). Of course putting a very good cap then placing a discharge resistor is best but it is very taxing on the wallet.
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For tweeter crossover, placing even common branded polypropelene caps (eg Mundorf MCAP, Evox MKP etc) then putting a discharge resistor (~ 100ohm) I believe would be a better solution than just simply replacing the series cap with a very good capacitor (eg Mundorf Supreme/oil). Of course putting a very good cap then placing a discharge resistor is best but it is very taxing on the wallet.
yes, that part too. mabigat sa wallet but after that, it would take time to get upgrade itches.
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... However, those kinds of speakers with big woofers and no bass port at the back would go well with vintage solid state gears that are 230 watt and higher ratings. I would choose that over any set up that is being sold in any shop.
I fully agree. BTW, going back to surplus speakers, here's from my personal experience. I have always trashed Japanese speakers since I started this hobby in early '80s (si Oweidah, ka-batch ko yan!), but three years ago, a local trader sold me a good-looking small Diatone (Mitsubishi) pair -- DA-a7 for P3.5K. When I tested it at home, halos itumba yung Epos 14 ko. It sounds so good and found out later it's even on the cheap side of the premium DS-a... series. After that I bought three other Diatones: 73DII, 66Z, and 300V.
Many Diatones available at surplus shops, especially those in wood boxes (not the black ones), are good performers, and in my opinion, some could beat those so-called "high-end" new production pairs.
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i salute u guys for letting me explore this. At least for me the smaller jap speakers are the finest.
As I stated in my audio exploration before, it took me 5 months to decide which speakers to get. Just imagine what speakers went in and out of my house. And at that time, there were no Japanese speakers that I auditioned and all were UK, US, Canadian, French, and Chinese. Wala kasi nambuyo. hehehe.
..... hindi lang Epos 14 itutumba neto na Book Shelf speaker. ;D
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The Diatones have been heavyweights in hifi from way back. My dad who was into mono valve gear back in the '60s told me during his time, he was looking for a legendary Diatone full-range speaker that could make any tube amp sound its best. He never got one and settled for those old full-range EVs and Altecs.
I showed him the knisi directory and he replied it could be the 3-watt P-610A: http://page.freett.com/knisi/diatone1.htm
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hello guys,
OT... Anyone with experience with ESS speakers? specifically the ESS HD1020?
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If what you got is an AMT, that would be a gem but it runs below four ohms and could destroy some amps. I still have the ESS Performance 12, not that outstanding and built like the traditional speakers, unlike the AMTs, but still working with an electrostatic tweeter, 12-inch woofer and a 12-inch passive radiator at the back.
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.....detoxification process now ongoing for my Diatone DS-15B. I just witnessed the autopsy proceedings and passed with flying colors ! ;D
Something's cooking. ;)
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.....detoxification process now ongoing for my Diatone DS-15B. I just witnessed the autopsy proceedings and passed with flying colors ! ;D
Something's cooking. ;)
isaw? chicharonbulaklak? kaw talaga monsieur le_stat, inalisan mo na naman ng laman-loob!
daya-tone na yan! ;D ;D ;D
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Ok. You guys gave me enough curiosity to go all the way to the pier and have my own personal impressions of these jap speakers. I already own a very good pair of floorstanders, but because of the price of these speakers I can afford to have another pair of bookshelves.
. Grabe, Im happy with this buy. Patricia Barber, get ready for papa ! hehe. ;D
Congrats, im sure its good as it sounds ;)....
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isaw? chicharonbulaklak? kaw talaga monsieur le_stat, inalisan mo na naman ng laman-loob!
daya-tone na yan! ;D ;D ;D
inalisan ng laman loob at nilagyan ng totoong dila, panga, at lalamunan para totoo na tumunog. ;)
@dana - thanks! better visit the "holy grounds" again and you might find another treasure ! :D
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inalisan ng laman loob at nilagyan ng totoong dila, panga, at lalamunan para totoo na tumunog. ;)
hindi pa ba totoo sa iyo yun? baka magtunog LS3/5a na yan! ;D
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hindi pa ba totoo sa iyo yun? baka magtunog LS3/5a na yan! ;D
that I can't tell yet. Those are one of the legendary speakers I have not auditioned yet. It has a badge of its own through the years. But once I do, you would know.
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Pictures of the Aurex SS-F07 that I have purchased recently
with grille
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/rascal101/aurex_with_grille_800x600.jpg)
without grille
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/rascal101/aurex_without_grille_800x600.jpg)
Try as I like I still could not get any specifications on the internet for this one. However, based on the label it is rated for 120W nominal.
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Pictures of the Aurex SS-F07 that I have purchased recently....
Try as I like I still could not get any specifications on the internet for this one. However, based on the label it is rated for 120W nominal.
naks! may bagong toy ang mama...valentines gift mo ba yan sa sarili , for being a good boy this year?;D ;D ;D
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heh heh heh ... gift ko sa akin for a being a good boy ;)
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eto hanap ko - ribbon sound -bakasakaling tumapat sa redroseribbon-sounding speaker mo ;D ;D ;D
Otto electrostatic/ribbon speakers
Specs:
33 cm x 58 cm x 30 cm (wLd)
Hi- Flat Film Diaphram
Mid- 12 cm honeycomb disc
Low- 25 cm Honeycomb disc
3 way system.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v393/henryhans/P1030371.jpg)
Hello Rene, long time no hear and see :). Sabagay pati ako medyo matagal 'di nakabisita dito. Just wanted you to know nasa akin ang speakers na 'yan. Di ko nga lang nagagamit....may problema 'ung tunog. Thought it sounded strange when playing music so I tried it w/ the test tone of my HK -130 AV... it sounds like somebody speaking with hands cupped around his/her mouth :( Sayang nga... thought it would match well with my Sansui AU-D907X Decade.
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Sir Mandrake,
Na-check mo na ba speakers? Baka kasi may loose connection lang sa loob o di kaya nag-leak na mga crossover caps niya.
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Pictures of the Aurex SS-F07 that I have purchased recently
with grille
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/rascal101/aurex_with_grille_800x600.jpg)
without grille
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d87/rascal101/aurex_without_grille_800x600.jpg)
Try as I like I still could not get any specifications on the internet for this one. However, based on the label it is rated for 120W nominal.
dude sa pier mo ba binili to? sa dulo? kasi I saw this being repaired by a technician dahil nag blow yung isang speaker driver, nag iisa kind lang siya dun, I was auditioning it that time and I was dissappointed kasi he hooked it wrong kaya nag short, pero before it tripped okey yung reproduction niya, REAL sweet sound........
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Sa Little Chatty ko binili ito.
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Sir Mandrake,
Na-check mo na ba speakers? Baka kasi may loose connection lang sa loob o di kaya nag-leak na mga crossover caps niya.
Hi Mel,
What I've done so far is to swap the mid-range drivers, hoping to isolate the problem. But no go... the problem stayed with the same speaker... so wala sa drivers ang problema. I don't know how to check for leaky caps... limited lang ang electronic skills ko eh :( Maybe next EB natin dalin ko baka may time tayo mag-troubleshoot.
BTW, very nice speakers sir ;D ;D Congrats!!
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Sa Little Chatty ko binili ito.
yup yan nga yon, its a good sounding speakers congrats...
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Hello Rene, long time no hear and see :). Sabagay pati ako medyo matagal 'di nakabisita dito. Just wanted you to know nasa akin ang speakers na 'yan. Di ko nga lang nagagamit....may problema 'ung tunog. Thought it sounded strange when playing music so I tried it w/ the test tone of my HK -130 AV... it sounds like somebody speaking with hands cupped around his/her mouth :( Sayang nga... thought it would match well with my Sansui AU-D907X Decade.
hi mike!
kaw pala nagmana senyor wanderlust's audio treasures! im sure with a little help from our gurus here, maaayos mo yan.
cheers! :)
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dude sa pier mo ba binili to? sa dulo? kasi I saw this being repaired by a technician dahil nag blow yung isang speaker driver, nag iisa kind lang siya dun, I was auditioning it that time and I was dissappointed kasi he hooked it wrong kaya nag short, pero before it tripped okey yung reproduction niya, REAL sweet sound........
Kung nag-short most probably iyung amp na-damage. From what I understand, the only way to damage the speakers is when you overload it.
Shorting speaker wires will cause the pwr transistors to see a very high load and would cause them sink very high current ultimately resulting to shorted pwr transistors assuming no OCP or short ckt protection.
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Congrats Sir Rascal
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Thanks guys.
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Kung nag-short most probably iyung amp na-damage. From what I understand, the only way to damage the speakers is when you overload it.
Shorting speaker wires will cause the pwr transistors to see a very high load and would cause them sink very high current ultimately resulting to shorted pwr transistors assuming no OCP or short ckt protection.
aside from mechanical damage caused by too much woofer excursion/displacement thus off-centering the voice coil causing it to 'rub' till it cause a layer short (insulation failure), an 'oscillating' (usual symptom is mainit abnormally ung amplifier) amplifier can cause damage to your speaker, burned tweeter coil etc...
just my barya...
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hey rascal,
magkano score mo? nice catch.. ;D
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4.5k sa little chatty's.
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pano ba pumunta sa pier? balak ko ding tumingin ng speakers and amps...
please advise thanks
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if ur coming from quiapo church going to taft, take the bridge then pagbaba, turn right. that shouldt ake you to pier... di ko lang kabisado pasikot-sikot sa loob ng pier...
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ok thanks
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If you are in Roxas blvd coming from Baclaran...after passing through Luneta park just go on for 1 or 2 kilometers until you hit a rotonda. Turn left... after 50 meters or so, you will see a cluster of stores on the right side. There's a large covered structure with a lot of stores selling surplus TVs in front. Inside that structure are three surplus audio stores. Two of them are owned by a husband and wife tandem. They have few new items but sell at much lower prices because their outlet is inside the market (not as visible as the other stores. You can ignore the third outlet, I've never seen them carry a nice item ever.
If you pass by the covered market, just walk another 50 meters or so and you will find several surplus stores also on the right. The first of them is the Little Chatty's with about a dozen speakers displayed right outside the store. This outlet have the largest stock of surplus audio items at the pier. They sell higher than the other stalls...this is not a big problem though if you know how to haggle. Always attempt to bid for 50% the price ( call this my going in position). :) You won't probably get your price but you're likelier to get a much higher better deal than if you just offer at 10 or 20% off their asking price. Before getting into a haggling situation, better define your "rock Bottom price" before hand. This is the price you won't budge from... a sort of last price based on your evaluation of the unit.
After little chatty's there are several stores also on the right side. On the other side of the street, you will find two or three more outlets. Try to visit all the outlets before buying any unit. There are gems you can luck into also in these outlets.
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Good pm mga sirs!
I am a newcomer and it is my first time to see this thread.
Ang dami pala katulad ko. ;D I've been hooked eversince I set foot on the pier last June 2006. I've been buying mostly Yamaha speakers and Victor because I was very much impressed with them. I consider them great bargains--kulang lang talaga sa pogi points but sulit sa price.
It's nice to know that there are others too who share the same passion. I am very much excited to learn more from your insights and experiences on surplus vintage equipment
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Welcome to pdvd mb88 !!! If I'm not mistaken, Di ba ikaw un may 3pairs of NS-690. :o Ako un ka text mo regarding the NS series speakers. Tnx again pala for the email regarding the yamaha stands !! ;D
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Salamat allan1836! Ako nga yung may 3 ns 690. Sana makahanap pa tayo ng mga kapatid :)
Update kita kasi on the look out pa din ako for more ;D
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Good pm mga sirs!
I am a newcomer and it is my first time to see this thread.
Ang dami pala katulad ko. ;D I've been hooked eversince I set foot on the pier last June 2006. I've been buying mostly Yamaha speakers and Victor because I was very much impressed with them. I consider them great bargains--kulang lang talaga sa pogi points but sulit sa price.
It's nice to know that there are others too who share the same passion. I am very much excited to learn more from your insights and experiences on surplus vintage equipment
welcome to PDVD!!!!
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that I can't tell yet. Those are one of the legendary speakers I have not auditioned yet. It has a badge of its own through the years. But once I do, you would know.
Gud pm mga sirs,
I have a set of The Radio People LS3/5a clones. It was a serendipitous purchase. Didnt know what they were and didnt want to buy it at first because of their ugly appearance. It is now my favorite pair with my Sansui AU777D. I could just imagine what the legendary BBC/Rogers LS3/5A would sound like. Would love to bring it for your test
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Salamat allan1836! Ako nga yung may 3 ns 690. Sana makahanap pa tayo ng mga kapatid :)
Update kita kasi on the look out pa din ako for more ;D
3 pairs of NS690? Whoa!!!
Those are great yamaha speakers.
How do u use them sir?
Have you tried them in a Home theater set up?
regards,
Foo
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Gud pm Lod Foo,
Yes, I have been using them for HT. Eliminates the need for subwoofers :o. I've experimented with 2 front, 2 center and 2 surround but I've more or less settled with 4 front and 2 surround :) I like it better since I sometimes use it for audio with 2 sets running in unison. 4 NS 690s are a sonic treat :)
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Di na uso ata ang surplus speakers ???
Sir ichie, baka gusto mo mag-comment?
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The last few times i went to the pier surplus areas there were no good speakers in sight.
It seemed to me that the inflow of surplus speakers have really dwindled to almost nothing.
Also everytime i send a text message to my mole in the area, wala daw dating.
So i stopped going to the pier. Sayang lang oras at gasolina. :'(
Well, while the going was good, i was able to acquire 3 pairs of victor sx3, an NS690, an onkyo 83aIII. That's all. Not really a great harvest.
I was luckier with amplifiers since i was able to get 2 VFET units, several Sansuis , a yamaha, a pioneer, No TOTL units for me though. Nice amps have dwindled to a trickle also.
Even the good CD Players have dried up. When was the last time anybody was able to get a Sony CDP ES unit?
Its a pity.
Foo
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I was told that vintage gear coming out of Japan nowadays are of better quality, including a lot of TOTLs. The problem is that the nouveau riche of Shanghai are getting them all at prices higher than new production China-made "audiophile" gear. The ongoing price range in Shanghai for those TOTL audio equipment is higher than used price in Japan -- such as those you find in Hifido and Yahoo Japan auction.
That means a pair of Yamaha NS-690 series that's quoted P5K here in Davao and sold at 30,000 yen in Tokyo is now pre-ordered at roughly $300 by Shanghai audiophiles. A Diatone DS-1000Z quoted at P7K her in Davao, and sold at 50,000 yen in Tokyo, is sold at $500 in Shanghai. That's what an importer here in Davao claimed.
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I havent been to the pier lately. No good news from the friendly traders. Looks like the good items are indeed being diverted elsewhere. Too bad for us. I am still on the look out for Yamaha NS 690s. Please let me know if you see one for sale or plan to let go or want to trade other items for it. Kahit pa next year or the next 10 years :)
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mb88, try mong mag visit sa little chatty, may yamaha ns690 sila dun baka hindi pa na bili. good luck.
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Thanks for info adjell. I will check it out later
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sirs, gud pm
ano po ba comment nyo sa Diatone DS-53D
anybody may experience sa speaker na to?
would it match Marantz PM-54D for a vintage stereo setup?
how about sa Marantz SR4500 na receiver for stereo/music listening?
tnx.
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http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.audio-heritage.jp%2fDIATONE%2fdiatoneds%2fds-53d.html (http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.audio-heritage.jp%2fDIATONE%2fdiatoneds%2fds-53d.html)
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thank you roldel5, for the link.
Would this Diatone DS-53D be a worthy buy at P5,000?
Or would I be better off using a newer pair of bookshelf speakers for the same price range, say wharf diamond 9s?
I would be using the speakers for my Marantz PM-54D amp and/or Marantz SR4500 receiver.
thanks.
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thank you roldel5, for the link.
Would this Diatone DS-53D be a worthy buy at P5,000?
Or would I be better off using a newer pair of bookshelf speakers for the same price range, say wharf diamond 9s?
I would be using the speakers for my Marantz PM-54D amp and/or Marantz SR4500 receiver.
thanks.
I think i saw this spkr in Quiapo (fronting mamunluk restaurant) , selling for 4K...
it was paired to Denon pro logic amp.. for me when I heard it masyadong matalas yung mids
maybe beacause medyo mataas and sensitivty ng model na 'to..
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I think i saw this spkr in Quiapo (fronting mamunluk restaurant) , selling for 4K...
it was paired to Denon pro logic amp.. for me when I heard it masyadong matalas yung mids
maybe beacause medyo mataas and sensitivty ng model na 'to..
:-\ mukhang may chance yata ito sa Marantz SR4500 receiver ko :)
at saka meron din itong -3 / 0 / +3 settings for both treble and bass
thank you, sir.
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thank you roldel5, for the link.
Would this Diatone DS-53D be a worthy buy at P5,000?
Or would I be better off using a newer pair of bookshelf speakers for the same price range, say wharf diamond 9s?
I would be using the speakers for my Marantz PM-54D amp and/or Marantz SR4500 receiver.
thanks.
buy the newer model,diamond 9 series BS would be better.bright sounding mga BS na 3way
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thanks a lot rodel and brian.
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(http://www.audio-heritage.jp/DIATONE/diatoneds/ds-251mkii.JPG)
Bought recently at the Pier, a Diatone DS-251 Mk II circa 1973.
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(http://www.audio-heritage.jp/DIATONE/diatoneds/ds-251mkii.JPG)
Bought recently at the Pier, a Diatone DS-251 Mk II circa 1973.
sir if you don't mind, how much kuha nyo.. thanks
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2.5k
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I recently acquired a vintage Technics SB-1730.
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://audio-heritage.jp/TECHNICS/speaker/sb-1730.html&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=1&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DTechnics%2Bsb-1730%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DgmQ
(http://audio-heritage.jp/TECHNICS/speaker/sb-1730.JPG)
Apart from the linked specs, does anyone have comment/experience about this speaker?
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Hi Guys,
Please share your info on this pair of speakers which I can consider a surplus, I found in my uncle's garage, an Altec lansing Model 7 Series II? Maganda sya tumunog, unfortunately 1 midrange needs refoaming. balak daw nya gawin upuan.. ;D..I cannot find much information on it. Sorry about the picture res nagpahinga na po digicam ko.
Thanks.
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/Altec%20Lansing%20Model%207%20Series%20II/Image010.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/Altec%20Lansing%20Model%207%20Series%20II/Image009.jpg)
Midrange for refoaming:
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/Altec%20Lansing%20Model%207%20Series%20II/Image008.jpg)
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I think i saw this spkr in Quiapo (fronting mamunluk restaurant) , selling for 4K...
it was paired to Denon pro logic amp.. for me when I heard it masyadong matalas yung mids
maybe beacause medyo mataas and sensitivty ng model na 'to..
Hi All, Just want to inform you this store in Quiapo sell their items with a very high mark up compared to pier. What's even worse is most are already repaired and their not honest in telling you this. Also, the lady owner has a really bad and arrogant attitude, specially if you bought from them and complained of irregularities with their item.
Sadly, it happened to me before. :(
FYI.
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Hi guys,
somebody is letting me babysit an old sony ss-x9s speakers, apparently its made in usa, has 3 woofers and a tweeter and weighs 31 kgs per speaker, does anybody have any experience with this pair of speakers, thanks in advance
docsialu
(http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb299/docsialu/IMG_0890.jpg)
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Wow! Nice speakers. Hope that I can babysit something like that also ... hehehe
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oonga nice speakers! anu kayang amp ang nag drive nyan?!
pag ako pinag babysit nyan mukang pangdisplay lang ;D
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Ako, ok na sa akin yung bookshelf speaker na katabi, naka-ribbon tweeter pa, hehe ;D
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Ako, ok na sa akin yung bookshelf speaker na katabi, naka-ribbon tweeter pa, hehe ;D
That's an Aurum Cantus Leisure 2SV bookshelf speaker ;)
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Hi Guys,
Please share your info on this pair of speakers which I can consider a surplus, I found in my uncle's garage, an Altec lansing Model 7 Series II? Maganda sya tumunog, unfortunately 1 midrange needs refoaming. balak daw nya gawin upuan.. ;D..I cannot find much information on it. Sorry about the picture res nagpahinga na po digicam ko.
Thanks.
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/Altec%20Lansing%20Model%207%20Series%20II/Image010.jpg)
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/Altec%20Lansing%20Model%207%20Series%20II/Image009.jpg)
Midrange for refoaming:
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/Altec%20Lansing%20Model%207%20Series%20II/Image008.jpg)
Sir Karipas.
i think you have a vintage gem in your hand.
It does not belong i think to the surplus category which i gather refers in this forum to the Japanese vintage gear being shipped to the philippines from japan.
Here's a catalog from the audio lansing heritage site.
http://www.lansingheritage.org/html/altec/catalogs/1978-home.htm
(http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/altec/catalogs/1978-home/page04.jpg)
It looks like a JBL L100 competitor to me.
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Foo,
May binebenta dyan sa Mandaluyong na Altec 14 last month. Medyo mataas lang ang quote pero maganda 'yun -- I was surprised our audiophiles here did not express interest in it while posted at the buy and sell section for 2 weeks. Maganda sa tubo ang vintage Altec dahil efficient. If it's still around next month, I might get it for our house in Las Pinas.
BTW, just got this a few hours ago from one of the junk dealers here in Davao. A 70's Fostex speaker pair that sounds surprisingly good for its size and depth. About 14 inches square 7 inches deep, ported enclosure type. Looks like the Japs made this for tubes: maximum input is only 30 watts.
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWG11N/G1/E/0-10/C07-31582-94855-00/
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Awww.
Sir Sandawa..thanks for the advise..
Unfortunately...i am here right now in Cebu on a 1 week training engagement. Then I will proceed to Catarman, Northern Samar for a 1 month continuation of the training for the Provincial Government of Northern Samar... this means i am out of the running for anything that happens in Manila. I can't even listen to my beloved Vfet amp+Ns1000m+Large Advent stacked pair. The hotels in Catarman are horrendous. :( . No audio what soever.. then brownouts on weekends...sob :(
If those Altec 14's look like these...then they are mythical speakers indeed! Look at those horns man!!!
(http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/altec/specs/home-systems/model-14/page1.jpg)
(http://www.lansingheritage.org/images/altec/specs/home-systems/model-14/page3.jpg)
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anybody interested ? :o :o :o
if item is authentic, goodluck to the future owner ;D
catch? owner is in indonesia !!! :P
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/450269/Early+JBL+Paragon+speaker+Serial+273+modern
http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/paragon.htm
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWjbl+paragon/G1/E/0-10/C08-37449-22226-00/
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Sir Sandawa...how about the pair of JBL paragon selling for a whopping P 269,000.00
LOl ;D
edit...
oh. sorry. i just saw sir southpeak beating my post by a few minutes...
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Foo, there's also a Paragon being sold in Hifido parang nakita ko kahapon. I'm also in a traveling spree these past months, just came back from Cagayan de Oro Sunday night. It's quite true you'll miss the sound quality of your home system when you're on field. Since last year, I was able to acquire T-amp driven docks for my iPod and even eeePC -- Altec IM5 and Sonic Impact IF2, which I alternately bring during my travels.
If you're interested in these gadgets -- I can get you one for about a third of their prices online. Just tell me when you're coming here.
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Saan po maganda maghanap ng mga surplus speakers sa Maynila?
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anybody interested ? :o :o :o
if item is authentic, goodluck to the future owner ;D
catch? owner is in indonesia !!! :P
http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/450269/Early+JBL+Paragon+speaker+Serial+273+modern
http://www.audioheritage.org/html/profiles/jbl/paragon.htm
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWjbl+paragon/G1/E/0-10/C08-37449-22226-00/
ive heard na meron si sen. ramon reville sr. na ganito. matagal ng inaawitang bilin pero for keeps na yata. ::) meron pa kaya tayong makikita o maririnig dito sa pinas nito?
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ive heard na meron si sen. ramon reville sr. na ganito. matagal ng inaawitang bilin pero for keeps na yata. ::) meron pa kaya tayong makikita o maririnig dito sa pinas nito?
same question here sir joey. with apologies to WS, saw this post regarding ultra wide angle (uwa) photography and the center piece is i suppose an authentic Paragon but not sure if unit is here in the Philippines. sana nga ma experience din natin ;)
4th post down..
http://wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18779&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
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Here's a mini Paragon but with Fostex drivers. Price is roughly $1,000, unit is in Kyoto (beautiful place with plenty of castles and old-Japan structures).
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KW/G/P0/A10/E/20-10/S0/C08-37498-23336-00/
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sir based sa mga nabasa ko mukang wala na good speaker sa pier. any idea kung meron sa quiapo? un sa may recto na puro speakers malapit sa isetan?
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Sir Karipas.
i think you have a vintage gem in your hand.
It does not belong i think to the surplus category which i gather refers in this forum to the Japanese vintage gear being shipped to the philippines from japan.
Here's a catalog from the audio lansing heritage site.
It looks like a JBL L100 competitor to me.
Lord Foo,
Thanks a lot for the information, it took me a while to reply. Then I need to have the midrange fixed ASAP. ;)
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been reading this thread for a long time now, been learning a lot from the experts here. went to pier last week and auditioned some speakers there (lampas ng little chattys). we auditioned a technics, denon and this otto speaker, all at 120 watts (forgot the model). i am not an expert in speakers but this little baby was sounding way beautiful than the other two. very smooth and crisp!
can you guys comment on this speaker?
(http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/9831/ottospeaker1pt1.jpg)
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8089/ottospeaker2zn5.jpg)
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I saw this speaker in a surplus shop Fostex FE-206ES-R in a back loaded horn enclosure very heavy asking is P6k walang pang tawad...;D
any comments regarding this speaker? Is it worth buying for that price?
http://www.madisound.com/pdf/fostexdrivers/fe206esr-rev.pdf (http://www.madisound.com/pdf/fostexdrivers/fe206esr-rev.pdf)
Thanks.
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Sir gutchy,
Nice find! ;D Would be great with flea powered tube amps. ;D
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Good PM,
Mga Sir, inquire ko lang, i got an Aiwa 6 ohms bookshelf speaker from pier. Ok yung quality ng tunog kya lang kpg di ko nilagyan ng fan un amp ko eh ang lakas mag init ng amp ko. My amp is a JVC 5.1 avr. 8 ohms at 100 watts per channel. Just want to ask kng dahil b sa hindi match na impedance kya umiinit ung amp ko? hope you could help me. Im planning to buy pa kasi another old school speaker kya lang bka may problem na ung amp ko masayang naman ung speaker.
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Any good newly arrived speakers in the Pier lately?
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Hey Rascal, good day!!!
I went to the pier yesterday after a meeting at the nearby DPWH office just to window shop. I have spent my allocation for audio purchases on a Pioneer sa9900 recently so i had no plans to buy anything. I just wanted to have a good time. I left the motor of the van running with the wife sleeping while waiting for me.
I went the round of the audio stores in the area. There really wasn't any piece of earthshaking speaker that I saw.
Then in the last store in the street, there was a pair of heavy, modern bookshelf Onkyo speaker at the back of one store. They were sitting on top of a vintage looking technics speaker. (those vintage technics speakers which look like the tweeter was on a smaller box on top of a larger woofer box.) I didn't note the model since i wasn't interested in modern speakers but those bookshelf spears were quite heavy and good looking.
Beside it on the floor, was a pair of again, modern floor standers that looked good for Home Theatre purposes. They were bi-ampable already with nice speaker posts. I let them pass.
In the same store, I spied up a pair of Victor SXIII's. Not really top of the line speakers but with good internet reviews.
Except that i already have three pairs of the victor SX3, a two way model and was pretty satisfied with them for small room listening needs.
Then under the stacks was a pair of Victor SX5's. I tried to lift it up -Heavy. I checked out the cabinet - Nice wood with nice grain. I checked out the drivers, they looked original. The screws did not seem tampered with.
The SX5 is a three way... (there's an SX7 and an SX9 model in this series.)
I wondered if the sx5 is better than the sx3. They really looked like big and small brothers. I guess curiosity got the better of me and asked the technicians to hook up the sx5's. They used Yamana A6 amp. (by the way, there's a Yamaha A8 in one of the stores. This is almost top of the line. There is also a pioneer SA9800 amp somewhere in the pier. This is also almost top of the line.).
Open air auditioning of speakers is not really accurate and chancy at best. However, its better than not hearing the speakers and just relying on visuals. heheh. The speakers belched out good solid highs, mids and bass.
So i came home with a pair of new speakers that i don't need and are not top of the line although i have vowed to avoid buying 2nd raters and un-needed speakers. heheheh. There they are still wrapped in brown paper waiting for me to hook them up with the pioneer sa9900 i just recently acquired.
(http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/sx-5.JPG)
http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/sx-5.html (http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/sx-5.html)
(http://page.freett.com/knisi/sx-3-3-h.jpg)
http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/sx-3.html (http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/sx-3.html)
But this model probably a better unit to take home...The sx7
(http://www.hifido.co.jp/photo/06/721/72125/a.jpg)
Somebody go get those SA9800... They'd be SA9500 in the US versions. They have those macho rack handles. With the jacks and connectors all set up on the sides instead of the back... These model does not have the light on the volume knob the way the 9900 have. I've read some great about both these models. Check out the yamaha a8 also. That amp is in the niji listing i think.
http://audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/sa-9800.html (http://audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/sa-9800.html)
(http://yomoyama.fc2web.com/audio/9800_75/p6234770.jpg)
(http://yomoyama.fc2web.com/audio/9800_75/p7074913.jpg)
Have a nice weekend everyone!!!
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Self imposed rules do give way to impulse ... hehehe
Nice speakers you got there.
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Congrats Sir Foo...
You have 3 pairs of SX3? WOW!
Just played this weekend ,early in the morning my long forgotten Kenny G Greatest Hits (2cds) using below speakers...Heavenly sounding with those tenor saxophone hitting those breathless notes...feeling ko, Xmas bonus is in the air;D ;D.
I felt that my neighbors were listening with me & grinning from ear to ear...
Here are my Victors:SX3ii & SX5ii matched then with SA-8800...
I should look for that Kenny G Xmas album naman, for my next playlist...
(http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n255/dmarbella/audio%20pics/DSC00012.jpg)
musta na preng Rascal...Goodboy na ba handle mo :D
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Santa anong regalo mo sa akin ??? Good boy po ako ... halos wala akong upgrades this year ...
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... The SX5 is a three way... (there's an SX7 and an SX9 model in this series.)
I wondered if the sx5 is better than the sx3. They really looked like big and small brothers. I guess curiosity got the better of me and asked the technicians to hook up the sx5's...
In January, a friendly trader offered to me over the phone a package deal: a pair of JBL 4313 and a pair of Victor SX-500II. I replied that all I needed was the 4313. When I dropped by his shop an hour later and tested the SX-500II, I changed my mind and went home with both pairs.
I don't know but maybe, the SX-500II is the updated version of the SX-5. It looks more like a revised SX-3 though. What appears like high-quality teak wood as well as shiny gold-plated metal lettering below the woofer make it expensive-looking. It was produced in 1989 and had a price quote of 90,000 yen per pair. Sound is neutral and comparable if not better than my British speakers.
Here are some photos:
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5536/1008414an2.th.jpg) (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1008414an2.jpg) (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7743/1008418lr0.th.jpg) (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1008418lr0.jpg) (http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3388/new1sx1.th.jpg) (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1sx1.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9986/new2jn7.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new2jn7.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5915/new3wh9.th.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new3wh9.jpg) (http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4936/new4tc6.th.jpg) (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new4tc6.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8866/goldinitial2mo7.th.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=goldinitial2mo7.jpg)
BTW, Victor speakers -- like Mitsubishi Diatone -- seem to be very popular among Japanese enthusiasts. Here's a survey of the most popular speakers among readers of Japan's STEREO magazine (right side of the web page): http://speaker.kir.jp/
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Agree Sir Sandawa, your SX500ii looks better and classier than the SX3.
Nice wood grains,round soft front corners,gold looking metal emblems
Added feature is its bi-ampable capability.
Havent seen such in our local pier though ???
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In January, a friendly trader offered to me over the phone a package deal: a pair of JBL 4313 and a pair of Victor SX-500II. I replied that all I needed was the 4313. When I dropped by his shop an hour later and tested the SX-500II, I changed my mind and went home with both pairs.
I don't know but maybe, the SX-500II is the updated version of the SX-5. It looks more like a revised SX-3 though. What appears like high-quality teak wood as well as shiny gold-plated metal lettering below the woofer make it expensive-looking. It was produced in 1989 and had a price quote of 90,000 yen per pair. Sound is neutral and comparable if not better than my British speakers.
Here are some photos:
(http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5536/1008414an2.th.jpg) (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1008414an2.jpg) (http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7743/1008418lr0.th.jpg) (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1008418lr0.jpg) (http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3388/new1sx1.th.jpg) (http://img300.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new1sx1.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/9986/new2jn7.th.jpg) (http://img152.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new2jn7.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5915/new3wh9.th.jpg) (http://img530.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new3wh9.jpg) (http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4936/new4tc6.th.jpg) (http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=new4tc6.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8866/goldinitial2mo7.th.jpg) (http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=goldinitial2mo7.jpg)
BTW, Victor speakers -- like Mitsubishi Diatone -- seem to be very popular among Japanese enthusiasts. Here's a survey of the most popular speakers among readers of Japan's STEREO magazine (right side of the web page): http://speaker.kir.jp/
congrats!
ganito ba yung fone call? >>>> hello nani? ang dagdag, ang dagdag? ;D ;D ;D
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Whoa... great looking stacked set-up Sir Dana..
I've tried speaker stacking with a pair of Large Advents but haven't gotten around to stacking the SX3 yet. (Actually, i also have 2 pairs of KLH sixes that i haven't gotten around to stacking yet. I used to buy orphan units of klh six and large advents. I've ended up with 2 pairs and 1 of the large advents.)
i seem to recall reading somewhere, that one of the results of the stacking tests made on the Large Advent during the Stacking phenomena in the 70's was that they sounded best with the top pair turned upside down so that the woofer driver is on top. Also, it was noted that the drivers of the top and bottom speaker pair are best setup perfectly aligned. The fact that the two pairs put on top of each others have the same specs is important. Therefore, a stack of SX3s or a stack of SX5s may sound better than a combination of SX3s and SX5s. lol Maybe... i'm just extrapolating from what i've read.
Some have even attempted stacks of three pairs!!! They even tested the speakers stacked on the sides but it seemed important that the 2nd set of highs are nearer your ears when listening.
Also as per the specs on the brochures, the Large Advents and the SX3 and the SX500II, goes down to 35 Hz only whereas the SX5 goes down to 30 Hz!!! I have tested the advent by sending test tones to the speakers. At 30 hz.. the woofer just vibrates with intermittent sound coming out.
The SX7 goes down to 30Hz also but the SX7II and the SX9 reaches down to a chest thumping 25Hz.
Still - the famous NS1000m claims only 40 hz while the NS690 goes down to 35hz. (the NS10M has 60hz at the bottom)
The pioneer HPM100 goes down to 30 hz.
You can see the various victor speakers on the site below. Click on the thumbnails to see the detailed speaker specs.
http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/index.html (http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/index.html)
Hi Sir Sandawa...awesome looking speaker sir. Methinks i would have also immediately preferred the JBLs..i'd pick them over a lot of other speakers anytime, anywhere. ;D . But with the speaker mania that we have...i'd probably end up with both speakers as long as i have enough money left for gasoline.
I checked my SX5, the wood grain is different from your much better looking SX500II. Mine has a similar wood grain to the Yamaha NS690 and the yamaha CA1000 integrated amps.
When i have the time, i will try speaker A/B testing the sx3 and the sx5. Have you done that sir dana?
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Whoa... great looking stacked set-up Sir Dana..
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i seem to recall reading somewhere, that one of the results of the stacking tests made on the Large Advent during the Stacking phenomena in the 70's was that they sounded best with the top pair turned upside down so that the woofer driver is on top. Also, it was noted that the drivers of the top and bottom speaker pair are best setup perfectly aligned. The fact that the two pairs put on top of each others have the same specs is important. Therefore, a stack of SX3s or a stack of SX5s may sound better than a combination of SX3s and SX5s. lol Maybe... i'm just extrapolating from what i've read.
Some have even attempted stacks of three pairs!!! They even tested the speakers stacked on the sides but it seemed important that the 2nd set of highs are nearer your ears when listening.
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When i have the time, i will try speaker A/B testing the sx3 and the sx5. Have you done that sir dana?
Hi Sir Foo.
I just stacked them up because they looked good that way ;D ;D ;D
Also, just to save some precious space for other toys around :D.
I think stacking up with the one on top in reverse is what they term the D'Apollitto arrangement.
Yup ,that what has been said, but could be proven further maybe via polar diagram or freq response plots,time/phase alignments, etc.
The connection thru my SA8800 above is via speaker out A (for SX3ii pair) & speaker B (for SX5ii).Its easy to A/B compare using this set-up or integrate them seamlessly via A+B setting (my setting at moderate volume only, being cautious for any Impedance drop presented to the amp...)
SX-3ii sounds neutrally flat to me as compared to pronounced mids from SX-5ii.
Anyway, via L pads from both, you can tune to taste.
The bass is just tight-ok, maybe being a closed box design.
I just like the sound character,design & built of both.Yes, they both weigh hefty by modern stds.
Regarding KLH, what I have is a KLH5... its a totally different animal naman, sounds good rin.
thanks :)
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has anyone elses ahve any experience is getting used speakers from the pier? just like having your surplus amp, surplus cpd...... maybe an all surplus set-up is in order there-after. ;)
well, personally i got my first taste of surplus speakers about 3 weeks ago, a technics bookshelf, SB-3:
(http://www.vintagetechnics.com/images/sb3catalog.jpg)
with the following details:
year released: 81
Design Principle, Enclosure or System Type: Acoustic
Woofer Diameter, in.: 9
Tweeter Type and Diameter, in. : 1.125, disc
Anechoic Frequency Response, Hz to kHz, + dB: 43-35
SPL, 1 Watt/ 1Meter, dB: 87
Impedance,Ohms Nominal/Minimum: 8
Dimensions, Inches (To Nearest Inch)WxDxH: 10x9x18
Net Weight, lbs.: 19
MSRP, US$, Each (Unless noted otherwis): 450.00 pr.
had this while scouting the pier (together with 3 other kwela boys!) for new arrival cdps, which turned out na the week after pa pala ang arrivals. >:(
very impressive ang sound quality, specially for voice and instrument, good imaging capability, and nice condition pa, all parts working, well heck even the grill is intact, no punit :o...... i leave the other views and reviews on this speakers to those who have listened to it na. ::)
special thanks goes to sir BGA_VI, if not for him i wouldnt have gotten this speaker. nice of you to BI me sir. ;D hehehe
Tol, makisingit lang.
Mayron din mga tube amp dun?
Anong pier yan? baka pwede mo bigay address para masilip naman minsan.
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makisingit lang po.
Mayron rin bang tube amp?
Baka pwede mahingi address para masilip minsan
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congrats!
ganito ba yung fone call? >>>> hello nani? ang dagdag, ang dagdag? ;D ;D ;D
Rene,
Ganito yung nangyari:
AKO: Mushi-mushi
TRADER: Bai, pautang naman ng P15K ngayon, kulang pera ko. May nag-offer sa akin ng EV package for only P35K, baka may makauna.
After one hour, akin na yung 4313 at SX-500II for P12K;). To think that in December, he wouldn't sell those rare 4313s to me at P10K ;D. In effect, parang nakuha ko yung SX-500II ng P2K.
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Hi nani,
Mushi Mushi anone!!!
Ganito ba ung JBL 4313 mo?
Ported pala ano? 800 usd yata ang MSRP nito.
(http://www3.ic-net.or.jp/~ojima/audio/speaker/images/0_jbl4313_1.jpg)
Here's a JBL experience i had at the pier.
Actually bihirang bihira akong makakita ng JBls sa Pier. In fact only once. Sometime ago, i missed out on a JBL 4312a at the pier.
Tinawaran ko na ng 4500 at binigay. However, the woofer was black not white. The case was really decrepit. It was haphazardly splashed over with black paint from a spray can without the seller/owner going over it with sandpaper to clear out the obvious scratches. But on close inspection the case was still solid. No evidence of a flood damage. :) Thinking back -- i know i can make those boxes look great again after stripping and then using oil on them.
However, I had the impression then that these sought after JBL monitors had white woofers. So kinulet ko ung vendor. I was trying to pin him down on the history of the woofers. Have they been replaced? bakit white? To make a long story short. I went around muna to look at the other shops. found a sony ES cdp. Then went back to the store. Unfortunately nairita pala sa akin ung vendor. Di natuloy yung bilihan. Nabawasan na rin ung pambili ko so di na ako gumawa ng paraan to humor the vendor's obviously piqued pride. (My bad!!!)
A few weeks later the speakers where gone. I console myself by imagining that the woofer drivers must have been replaced. ;D
I still have to get hold of one of those gems like sir sandawa's (at an acceptable low price to me of course. heheh. If money were no object, you can get them somewhere, somehow. However, part of the high in this hobby for me is the 'smug-happy feeling" ::) of having bought a great unit at a basement price. ;D
Okay let me meander some more about JBLs.
...Medyo out of topic but waddaheck!!!
I had better luck with non-surplus JBLs in other thrift stores.
Later, i got hold of a locally assembled JBL FL100. I posted the refurbishing i think in another thread. I had fun with the refurbishing job. My brod recapped all capacitors; i found and sourced replacement tweeters; scraped the multiple layers of thick brown varnish, did some minor sandpapering, sprayed flat black on the front, and oiled the cabs; ah, i also added some wood strengthening inside the cabinets. The insides of the unit are definitely 4311. However, the box is entirely different. I listen to the fl100 almost daily.
Zilch the JBL guru over at AK calls them a mini-l300.
http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131342&highlight=lordfoo (http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=131342&highlight=lordfoo)
Fresh from the thrift shop.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/oct2007078.jpg)
scraped and sandpapapered
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/oct2007109.jpg)
Oilled without staining.
(http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c289/Lordfoo/oct2007088-1.jpg)
Later, i got hold of a Pair of JUBALs now on loan to a delighted a brother of mine. You won't believe the bargain i had for this pair. ;D (< --- boasting with uncontrollable glee.)
Much much later, i took a pair of JBL L50s off the hands of my favourite thrift shop. My brod did some refurbishing to the pair and they are now singing happily for my Father in Law.
The l50 looks like this...
(http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7646/jbll50stereospeakerweb1ze6.jpg)
and i still want a JBL monitor in the order of sir sandawa's 4313.
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makisingit lang po.
Mayron rin bang tube amp?
Baka pwede mahingi address para masilip minsan
toknining.. if you are asking about tubes at the pier...That is also a rare occurence.
Once i found a Hybrid luxman lv105 at the pier. It has tubes alright but detractors of the model/and the hybrid technology claim that the tubes are there in the unit only for marketing purposes.
address?
Well if you are at the luneta park, roxas blvd.
Face north...
travel for about a kilometer till you come to a rotonda.
Turn left and park at the stores you will find 40 meters from the rotonda..
You'll find the stores there. There is one store in the mall on the right.
The rest are in the stores on the sidewalk rigth after the mall. just ask around for the audio stores.
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Foo,
The JBL-4313 pair I got has black face but with dark blue grills. It's something like this (but no WX letters on the model badge): http://www.audio-heritage.jp/JBL/speaker/4313wx.html
I will post photos later since my camera batteries are dead.
True, the late '80s tube Luxmans (LV hybrids) built by Alpine engineers did not get a good response from Japanese audio enthusiasts compared with the original valve or even vintage solid-state Luxmans. I was looking at Japan pricings of the LV series and noticed an aberration -- while the 105s and 109s now sell at roughly 20,000 yen average (about the same price as a used Sony 333ES), the LV-107s sell at roughly 30,000 yen. There could be something special in the 107s that we should look at when some of these units drift on our piers. Check here: http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/htmlmb/mdllnk.php?mn=L&ch=m_
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i was able to purchase a lv 103 from our buy and sell forum recently and i kinda like it compared to my old marantz integrated amplifier my only problem with it is the lack of bass
i am curious though if i can change the tubes that are attached to it.. im not that techy though so i havnt tried opening it.. would u guys have any idea on what tube it uses ?
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We're OT here since this is a "SURPLUS SPEAKERS" thread. Anyway, from the LV hybrid photos on K-nisi/Niji and Audio Heritage websites, it's either a pair of 12au7, or 6CG7. The best way is to check it yourself by removing the front panel.
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sorry about that thanks for the reply sir
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Lord Foo,
Thank you sir sa info. Try kong tingnan baka may makita ako dun.
salamat ulit
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i was able to purchase a lv 103 from our buy and sell forum recently and i kinda like it compared to my old marantz integrated amplifier my only problem with it is the lack of bass
i am curious though if i can change the tubes that are attached to it.. im not that techy though so i havnt tried opening it.. would u guys have any idea on what tube it uses ?
in the LV103, the 6FQ7/6CG7 tubes are configured as long-tail pair differential voltage amp feeding a pnp bipolar emitter follower buffer that drives the output Mofets.....
the circuit is designed so that as the tube ages, consistent gain is still possible....
if you are not happy with the bass, you can use the built-in tone controls to compensate for apparent lack of bass...
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Gud day to you guys,
Somebody is selling me his jbl l65 jubal bullet and l150a speakers, are these good value speakers, and how much is the selling price nowadays? tnx
reviews please, tnx
docsialu
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Those are definitely good speakers. Local resale value is erratic and unpredictable since those sold by local residents are mostly with defects/repaired drivers. But I always consult Japan's resale value which is available in time series based on Yahoo auction transactions (unit condition is however uneven). Look here:
http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/htmlmb/mdllnk.php?mn=L
For mint condition units sold as used in Japaan, I use this as reference (type the model number):
http://www.hifido.co.jp/sold/indexe.html
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Thank you sir sandawa, ill take a look at the actual units if theyre ok, btw are these speakers hard to drive? i have a 60watts el34 pp and a 6 watts el84? can they drive these jbls? tnx again
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whoohoo check out the two 12 inch drivers per speaker.
(http://www.randallareed.com/photogallery/JBL_L150A.jpg)
these are the L65s
(http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=4882&stc=1)
i have a pair of L65a. My brother uses it now. He claims the speakers are "perfect for his ears".
I have no experience with the L150a so i cant make any comparisons.
But i just saw an ebay post selling an L65 for 980 usd and another for USD 750; somebody at the Lansing form was commenting recently that L65s used to sell for around 650 usd but have recently been selling for more than a 1000 usd.
check out the Lansing Heritage forum. The most knowledgeable JBL afficionados in the planet are probably in the forum.
hey sir sandawa, whats your take on the jbls? how would you rank the L65, the L150a and the one that you have, the L4313? add the 4312 and the L100 to the rankings. ;D
By the way, JBls are not surplus speakers... ;D
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Once i found a Hybrid luxman lv105 at the pier. It has tubes alright but detractors of the model/and the hybrid technology claim that the tubes are there in the unit only for marketing purposes.
erroneous claim! the tubes in that amp really serve a purpose and not just for marketing purposes.
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whoohoo check out the two 12 inch drivers per speaker.
(http://www.randallareed.com/photogallery/JBL_L150A.jpg)
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hey sir sandawa, whats your take on the jbls? how would you rank the L65, the L150a and the one that you have, the L4313? add the 4312 and the L100 to the rankings. ;D
By the way, JBls are not surplus speakers... ;D
I have never owned L65 and L150 so I can't make any comparison. They're supposed to be very good as mentioned. From original pricing alone, I think L65 and L150 are superior compared with the 4313. But it still boils down to individual preference, assuming he has listened to those models over a long period of time. The JBL's I've owned in the past were the L100 Century, 4311, L56, L96 and currently 4430, 4313, and J316 Pro.
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I still havent seen the actual units till now but the guy quoted 27k for the l65 and 10k for the l150a, mahal pala ng l65.
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Hello, would like to request for any feedback on these:
VICTOR ZERO 3Fine Speakers
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/zero-3fine.jpg)
http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2faudio-heritage.jp%2fVICTOR%2fSpeaker%2fzero-3fine.html (http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2faudio-heritage.jp%2fVICTOR%2fSpeaker%2fzero-3fine.html)
THANKS :)
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Thank you sir sandawa, ill take a look at the actual units if theyre ok, btw are these speakers hard to drive? i have a 60watts el34 pp and a 6 watts el84? can they drive these jbls? tnx again
Vintage JBLs are easy to drive and usually high efficiency -- over 90db. Yes, tama ang presyo sa L65 kung all original, P27K is less than $600.
Reymer,
Nandito ang used price ng Zero 3 Fine sa Japan Yahoo auctions -- disregard the less than 1,000 yen figures, kadalasan manual lang yun or boxes with defective drivers:
http://yackdb.s138.xrea.com/auview.php?m=ZERO3FINE
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Hi,
Kindly share your comments/actual listening experience, if any,
using JBL L112. TIA! :)
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Hello, would like to request for any feedback on these:
VICTOR ZERO 3Fine Speakers
(http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l41/kkkram/zero-3fine.jpg)
http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2faudio-heritage.jp%2fVICTOR%2fSpeaker%2fzero-3fine.html (http://66.163.168.225/babelfish/translate_url_content?.intl=us&lp=ja_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2faudio-heritage.jp%2fVICTOR%2fSpeaker%2fzero-3fine.html)
THANKS :)
Hmmm. I seem to recall seeing victor zero 5 fine sa pier several times before. I remember not getting the 3 and 5 models because i was hoping lady luck will shine on me and bestow the higher models on me. In point of fact a week later, i found a Yamaha NS690 at the pier.
Please check out the cabinet of the zero 3 fine. I am not sure now but i seem to recall also that i found the box seemed a bit flimsy. I may be wrong on this though.
http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/index.html (http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/index.html)
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Hmmm. I seem to recall seeing victor zero 5 fine sa pier several times before. I remember not getting the 3 and 5 models because i was hoping lady luck will shine on me and bestow the higher models on me. In point of fact a week later, i found a Yamaha NS690 at the pier.
Please check out the cabinet of the zero 3 fine. I am not sure now but i seem to recall also that i found the box seemed a bit flimsy. I may be wrong on this though.
http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/index.html (http://audio-heritage.jp/VICTOR/Speaker/index.html)
saw this one today (monday bonifacio day) being auditioned at pier by a guy with eye glasses. it seems not to promising dahil inayawan niya. forget to talk to the guy mukhang member din natin dito.
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Thanks for the replies. I also saw the one at pier last saturday, its a Zero30fine. Never auditioned since walang woofer, nire-edge pa daw ???
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I just want to share photos and impressions of my latest find, a Sansui S-alpha 9 speaker, data of which are hardly available online. I don't think this is an exceptional speaker, definitely not made for the alpha 907 series amps, but it was likely issued in late '90s -- current resale value in Tokyo's hifi online auctions from $100 to $150/pair. Sansui was an amplifier company and never re-established its reputation as hifi speaker manufacturer since it ended partnership with JBL in the '70s.
I got this, without tweeters, along with a cheap black Pioneer phono (PL-A350B), an upscale Sony tape deck (TC-K555ESx) and a multi-disc Pioneer CDP (PD-M50) for P5k from a junk shop here in Davao. Luckily, all four are working well now, but the S-a9s needed rehab. Found a pair of classic Bill Hecht (PhaseTech) soft-dome tweeters in my storage room, which fit the S-a9 holes. It's been in service for at least a week now.
Sensitivity could be in mid-90s (db) as it mimics large speakers. It plays louder and produces fuller sound compared with, say, the vintage Celestion SL-6 (I still have the original 6 and its successor, the 6s) whose sensitivity is at low 80s (db). S-a9 is a bit larger, actually deeper by about 3 inches, than the SL-6 and the KEF-101. The good sound, however, breaks when played as loud as my JBL monitors. At least, the Celestions and the KEF (even the Epos 14) don't lose their character when played very loud, but they do exhibit inferiority compared with the heavyweights at live concert SPLs.
Anyway, here's my newest toy (with the candy-like look):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa903a.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa906.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa910.jpg)
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Good day everyone, can you pls help me find a link in the net about pioneer cs 989 speakers, cant seem to find any in the net, tnx in advance
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Good day everyone, can you pls help me find a link in the net about pioneer cs 989 speakers, cant seem to find any in the net, tnx in advance
http://urun.gittigidiyor.com/PIONEER-CS-989-SPEAKER-Vintage-1984_W0QQidZZ16161089
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tnx sir a hobbit, appreciate it a lot, ;)
although I cant understand the foreign language, hehe
found a pair of these speakers lying unused in the house when i came back home to the province and i was surprised to find that it plays so loud at mid 90db with my se el84 even louder than my old sansui speakers rated at 100db. Perhap specs are not really accurate. And it sounds pretty good too with nice bass.
Unfortunately one of the midrange has a little tear on it.
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A month ago, I found a pair of Pioneer VSS-70 speakers in a local thrift shop here in Davao. These speakers are relatively huge and were offered to me at P3K/pair. Unfortunately, I couldn't find much info on these rare speakers except a reference on the net that it was a patented Pioneer design in the '80s for home theatre. It was supposed to reproduce the movie theatre sound requiring only two speakers. Apparently it was rendered obsolete with the release of 5.1, 7.1, etc. amp and speaker systems
The VSS-70 is a 5-speaker system (box: 12X18.5X36 inches) with a 10-inch woofer, 2 mid-range speakers and 2 tweeters on top of the box. The woofer and mid-range units are angled favoring the sweet spot and the tweeters are mounted on a V formation. It sounds very hot from mid to high frequencies but relatively good on bass. Efficiency is likely on the high '90s. It's a keeper for me, reinforcing my huge JBL 4430 and the Technics 7000, which both have 15-inch woofers.
I'm posting photos for the benefit of Pioneer brand enthusiasts as well as those who might encounter these vintage monsters in the future:
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/1-1.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/2-1.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/3-1.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/4.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/6.jpg)
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I just want to share photos and impressions of my latest find, a Sansui S-alpha 9 speaker, data of which are hardly available online. I don't think this is an exceptional speaker, definitely not made for the alpha 907 series amps, but it was likely issued in late '90s -- current resale value in Tokyo's hifi online auctions from $100 to $150/pair. Sansui was an amplifier company and never re-established its reputation as hifi speaker manufacturer since it ended partnership with JBL in the '70s.
I got this, without tweeters, along with a cheap black Pioneer phono (PL-A350B), an upscale Sony tape deck (TC-K555ESx) and a multi-disc Pioneer CDP (PD-M50) for P5k from a junk shop here in Davao. Luckily, all four are working well now, but the S-a9s needed rehab. Found a pair of classic Bill Hecht (PhaseTech) soft-dome tweeters in my storage room, which fit the S-a9 holes. It's been in service for at least a week now.
::)t toy (with the candy-like look):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa903a.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa906.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa910.jpg)
sir sandawa,
mag salabat na ako baka pwedeng i-caroling -we-wish-u a merry krismas ;D ;D ::)
.....or earlier sagot ko na excess baggage ;D ;D ;D
up ^^^
wazzup @pierre?
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Hi! I am new here. Does anybody have any information or tried a Sansui XL-300 speaker and a Sansui classique 1300. I saw these today and it was selling for 5K and 4 k. The woofer of the Sansui XL-300 has a small tear in it. Will this affect the performance of the speaker?
I also saw a smaller advent speaker selling at 4K. Has anybody tried these kind of speaker?
I did not have the opportunity to audition these since I was on my way to work. I thought that I should get more information on these first. :)
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I just bought a Diatone DS-22BR and a Sony SS-7010 ULM from Little Chatty's last week.
There was also a Coral XV. Don't know if it is still there now.
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Hi! I am new here. Does anybody have any information or tried a Sansui XL-300 speaker and a Sansui classique 1300. I saw these today and it was selling for 5K and 4 k. The woofer of the Sansui XL-300 has a small tear in it. Will this affect the performance of the speaker?
I also saw a smaller advent speaker selling at 4K. Has anybody tried these kind of speaker?
I did not have the opportunity to audition these since I was on my way to work. I thought that I should get more information on these first. :)
Sir,
Where did you see this Sansui XL-300 speaker? I saw a Sansui speaker at Little Chatty's which looks quite similar.
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It was in cubao in an US surplus store,in front of cubao expo:)
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Bought Diatone ds66 ex yesterday for 4500pesos, ayaw magpatawad sa little chattys, konti na lang nagtitinda.May mga Bose ,technics pero konti lang din. Ewan kung mahal or mura yun nabili ko.
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pardon me but where is this little chatty's?
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pardon me but where is this little chatty's?
Same question...Speakers lang po ba tinda sa chatty's or meron ding avrs?
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pardon me but where is this little chatty's?
+1
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Same question...Speakers lang po ba tinda sa chatty's or meron ding avrs?
Little Chatty's has amplifiers, speakers, CD players, DVD players etc. You can call them at 5260619 or 09184423309.
As the location of Little Chatty's has been bought up countless number of times, I would like to suggest the use of PDVD search facility. Pls look for "pier" or "little chatty".
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^thanks for the info Sir ;D
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calling all vintage experts any inputs on this one. I bought this one cheap pero ayaw naman gumana ng woofers maybe some loose connection on the network. medyo kakaiba yung woofer ano ba tawag sa ganyan style? it looks like a passive radiator or planar type woofer tho i havent opened it yet.
LoD HS M70
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/woweezowee0/03152010322.jpg)
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16/woweezowee0/03152010320.jpg)
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Kung ayaw gumana ng woofers, take them out and bring them to Raon or any technician who has experience in repairing speakers. Ang malamang na problema niyan misaligned magnet. Madaling ma-check yan kung conventional ang speakers mo -- dapat naglalaro yung cone, spider at walang sayad ang coil pag tinulak mo yung dust cap.
Madalas ganyan ang problema ng surplus speakers -- dahil sa transport. Hindi shock-proof yan, besides mahina na ang glue ng magnet dahil nga vintage. My experience is that speaker technicians in Raon are bara-bara. Kaya pumili ka ng magaling. Dito sa Davao roughly P150 per unit ang singil ng pinakamagaling sa alignment ng woofer magnet. Dyan sa Maynila, parang mas mahal yata, huwag lang doble ng Davao rate, okay na basta malinis ang gawa.
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Kung ayaw gumana ng woofers, take them out and bring them to Raon or any technician who has experience in repairing speakers. Ang malamang na problema niyan misaligned magnet. Madaling ma-check yan kung conventional ang speakers mo -- dapat naglalaro yung cone, spider at walang sayad ang coil pag tinulak mo yung dust cap.
Madalas ganyan ang problema ng surplus speakers -- dahil sa transport. Hindi shock-proof yan, besides mahina na ang glue ng magnet dahil nga vintage. My experience is that speaker technicians in Raon are bara-bara. Kaya pumili ka ng magaling. Dito sa Davao roughly P150 per unit ang singil ng pinakamagaling sa alignment ng woofer magnet. Dyan sa Maynila, parang mas mahal yata, huwag lang doble ng Davao rate, okay na basta malinis ang gawa.
you're right sandawa loose pigtail lang pala and some rewiring sa network. Gumagana na and sounding very good. this Lo-D/Hitachi is giving me a different outlook(positive) towards Hitachi audio gears ok pala talaga basta Made in Japan lol
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When I look at this Lo-D speakers, I am reminded of the Aurex SS-F07 speakers of my dad which has similar woofer.
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Hi To All,
Kindly give as much feedback and/or details as you can about any or all of the following speakers.
Denon SC-T777SA
Pioneer S-77 Twin SD
JBL TZ-1
All of the above were originally listed as Yen120,000 per pair. Of course, Im not getting them brand new.
Thank you!
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Hi To All,
Kindly give as much feedback and/or details as you can about any or all of the following speakers.
Denon SC-T777SA
Pioneer S-77 Twin SD
JBL TZ-1
All of the above were originally listed as Yen120,000 per pair. Of course, Im not getting them brand new.
Thank you!
Sir,
Here is a link which has info on the pioneer S-77 Twin SD.
http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?hl=tl&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kameson.com%2Faudio%2F
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here's the direct link to the pioneer s-77
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=tl&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.kameson.com/audio/S-77TWINSD.htm&rurl=translate.google.com.ph&usg=ALkJrhgVPfmpCMlF-KVHK566NaS69ymV8g
ayos sana, detalyado ang description at tweaks, kaso grabe translation, nosebleed! ;D
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here's the direct link to the pioneer s-77
http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=tl&sl=ja&tl=en&u=http://www.kameson.com/audio/S-77TWINSD.htm&rurl=translate.google.com.ph&usg=ALkJrhgVPfmpCMlF-KVHK566NaS69ymV8g
ayos sana, detalyado ang description at tweaks, kaso grabe translation, nosebleed! ;D
Thanks. No problem on the original Japanese texts and Ive read Kameson.com before. Was hoping for more hands-on impressions from pdvd peeps sana.
Also, I am concerned about the actual condition of the capacitors inside a 20 year old speaker enclosure. The Pioneer I saw still definitely looks very very nice outside (merong 6 months warranty na tutunog - but not warrantied na tutunog to your liking). I have done condenser replacement when I was younger in the 90s (hehehe), but Im not sure if I'm still keen on doing that now even though I can source out the original French brand caps. Naging plug & play na kase ako for the most part and maiinis malamang ang Wife. ;D Meanwhile, I got 2 pairs of 2001 (2003 pala) model Onkyo floorstanders for fronts and rears - nag-match naman with the AX1 but I haven't stopped thinking about the bigger (and more attractively priced) older speakers yet (for front sana)..hehehe.
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Hi To All,
Kindly give as much feedback and/or details as you can about any or all of the following speakers.
Denon SC-T777SA
Pioneer S-77 Twin SD
JBL TZ-1
All of the above were originally listed as Yen120,000 per pair. Of course, Im not getting them brand new.
Thank you!
Mayroon po ako dati iyung S-77twinSD (nasa tatay ko na ngayon). Sa opinion ko lang, medyo patay tumunog iyung S-77twinSD. Hindi masyadong ma-high. Ok iyung mids. Iyung base ok rin. Hindi gaano detailed tumunog pero may improvement kapag pinalitan iyung mga capacitors ng polypropelene type capacitors.
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hi guys. tanong ko lang sana kung may mahahanapan na speakers sa pier na pwede pang proffessional application i.e. for an acoustic bar. you see my friends and i are planning to set up an acoustic bar and initially we thought of buying a pair or two of locally made speakers like daichi, but i thought of exploring the possibility of finding even cheaper, but still decent, alternatives in the pier.
by any chance, does anyone have any knowledge regarding this?
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Hi, I have not post here for a long time. I just wanted to share my recently acquired toy. 2 weeks ago I answered a local speaker add. The seller replied that his friend wants to buy it, so its considered sold. Last night, he asked me if I am still interested since his friend does not want to buy it anymore. I ended up driving 120km back and forth and bringing these heavy speakers home....my Pioneer HPM-100. I checked the insides and all seems to be original, the cabinet's in fair condition. Due to the size and weight, its difficult to avoid scuffs when moving this around. ;) Sorry about the stands, I am still looking for a good one. ;D
(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u141/jojo0416/HPM-100/IMG_5884.jpg)
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Doon sa may dulo ata (near BPI sa kanto at lagpas ng Little Chatty's). Not sure if they have professional speakers but you can check it out.
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Hi, I have not post here for a long time. I just wanted to share my recently acquired toy. 2 weeks ago I answered a local speaker add. The seller replied that his friend wants to buy it, so its considered sold. Last night, he asked me if I am still interested since his friend does not want to buy it anymore. I ended up driving 120km back and forth and bringing these heavy speakers home....my Pioneer HPM-100. I checked the insides and all seems to be original, the cabinet's in fair condition. Due to the size and weight, its difficult to avoid scuffs when moving this around. ;) Sorry about the stands, I am still looking for a good one. ;D
Nice catch Karipas. Very popular among vintage hifi enthusiasts in the US and if I'm not mistaken HPM-100 was designed by a JBL engineer.
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Thanks Sir Sandawa. Yes, you are correct, from what I have read it was designed and built as a direct improvement to JBL L100 century by these ex-JBL engineers when they moved to Pioneer. The JBL's and HPM's are hard to come by here at reasonable price and condition. So when the add came out with a price tag of Php 6300 per current CAD$ to Php conversion rate it was a no brainer. I am happy with the purchase, the seller told me he got it from the original owner 5 years ago, the condition in my own assessment is an easy 8.0 to 8.5. :)
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got a new old toy from our suking pier.. ;)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/logo.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/withcover.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/back.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/front2.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/side.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/top.jpg)
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/gutchy/my%20diatone%20ds1000/front.jpg)
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bro gutchy
kindly give us your impressions of the speakers and for how much did you get them. :)
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Gutchy,
Ganda ganda ng bago mong speakers. TOTL Diatone DS-1000.
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mel,
napa daan lang sa pier last week..
tingin tingin lang sana.. ;D
@ juancho
got this for 6.5k.. ayaw na magpatawad nkita kasing interesado ako.. :-[
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Congratulations. That's a bargain at P6.5k. DS-1000 is on the same category in Japan as Yamaha NS-1000M, which goes five figures there in Manila.
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Thanks sir Nani...
Now I am looking for an amplifier to drive this baby..
Hope maka tiempo din ng Limited Edition Sansui 907 MOS.. ;D
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Six years ago, I had a chance to audition a similar speaker, DS-1000HR, here in Davao (also P6.5k asking price from the trader). Ang dinig ko medyo matigas ang bass. So, I decided to buy the smaller DS-a7. Binalikan ko yung DS-1000HR nung sumunod na araw, pero naunahan ako ng pastor na taga Cotabato.
Tama ka, baka kailangan nya ng amplifier na match sa kanya. If you have several amps, simulan mo na i-test.
I checked Hifido, yung relatives niyan mas mahal pa pala sa NS-1000M ang resale value (most recent transaction):
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWDS-1000/G1/E/0-10/C10-53074-72950-00/
http://www.hifido.co.jp/KWNS-1000M/G1/E/0-10/C10-53984-76492-00/
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Thanks sir Nani...
Now I am looking for an amplifier to drive this baby..
Hope maka tiempo din ng Limited Edition Sansui 907 MOS.. ;D
OT: May NEC A-10 sa Little Chatty's.
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up ko lang, may nagpupunta pa ba sa Pier? May magaganda pa bang speaker na makukuha don? TIA.
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Marami pang magagandang speakers doon. May Diatone DS-77HRX akong nakita 3 weeks ago. Ewan ko lang kung nandoon pa.
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sir sa little chatty ba yung diatone speaker?
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Sa dulong dulo malapit sa BPI. Karamihan ng tinda doon ay professional amps eg guitar amp. Ang palatandaan ay sa harapan ng tindahan maraming mga speakers.
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Sa dulong dulo malapit sa BPI. Karamihan ng tinda doon ay professional amps eg guitar amp. Ang palatandaan ay sa harapan ng tindahan maraming mga speakers.
sir rascal, sinilip ko yung speaker, makinis nga kaso 8K ang last price, iniwan ko na lang ulit..pero try ko ulit balikan sa saturday and try ulit kung ibaba yung price..hehehe. thanks.
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sir rascal, sinilip ko yung speaker, makinis nga kaso 8K ang last price, iniwan ko na lang ulit..pero try ko ulit balikan sa saturday and try ulit kung ibaba yung price..hehehe. thanks.
what model sir, yong 8K?
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sir rascal, sinilip ko yung speaker, makinis nga kaso 8K ang last price, iniwan ko na lang ulit..pero try ko ulit balikan sa saturday and try ulit kung ibaba yung price..hehehe. thanks.
Sabihin mo sa kausap mo doon na babaan naman kasi iyung Diatone DS-1000 naibenta nila ng 7.5K. Mas mababang model itong DS-77HRX pero bakit 8K ang presyuhan.
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Sabihin mo sa kausap mo doon na babaan naman kasi iyung Diatone DS-1000 naibenta nila ng 7.5K. Mas mababang model itong DS-77HRX pero bakit 8K ang presyuhan.
wala kasi yung may-ari mismo, yung taga bantay lang, siguro may bilin na huwag ibaba basta basta. Di bale, im sure meron pang darating. Sabi nong taga little chatty, baka daw magkaroon ng mga bago this Nov, pero walang exact date..planning to go back by mid Nov at sana nga may mga bago na.
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When it comes to speaker kc sa size ng woofer at wattage sila nagbabase ng price and for 12" usually 5-8k ang presyohan nila depende sa condition kung makinis pa at around 300w expect mo around 7-8k price. Nde nila alam kung TOTL yan or Entry level wag lang ung Yamaha NS-1000 dahil familiar na sila sa model na yan.. ;D When I got my Diatone DS-1000, first pinakita ko muna na interesado ako sa 12" model na yan which I think DS-77EX I try to huggle down the price pero sabi hangang 8k lng tlaga.. nde nila alam na ang tlagang target ko ay ung DS-1000.. ;D.. kaya sabi ko.. itong maliit magkano? 6.5k daw.. sabi 10" lng yan at 100 watts lng dapat nasa 4.5k lng yan.. :D pero ayaw talaga ibaba ung price. Anyway kinuha ko na rin dahil mahirap na rin makahanp ng ganyang model dyan sa pier sa panahon na 'to.. kakilala ko pla ung nagtitinda dun c Ronald
matagal nakong suki nun.. ;D
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When it comes to speaker kc sa size ng woofer at wattage sila nagbabase ng price and for 12" usually 5-8k ang presyohan nila depende sa condition kung makinis pa at around 300w expect mo around 7-8k price. Nde nila alam kung TOTL yan or Entry level wag lang ung Yamaha NS-1000 dahil familiar na sila sa model na yan.. ;D When I got my Diatone DS-1000, first pinakita ko muna na interesado ako sa 12" model na yan which I think DS-77EX I try to huggle down the price pero sabi hangang 8k lng tlaga.. nde nila alam na ang tlagang target ko ay ung DS-1000.. ;D.. kaya sabi ko.. itong maliit magkano? 6.5k daw.. sabi 10" lng yan at 100 watts lng dapat nasa 4.5k lng yan.. :D pero ayaw talaga ibaba ung price. Anyway kinuha ko na rin dahil mahirap na rin makahanp ng ganyang model dyan sa pier sa panahon na 'to.. kakilala ko pla ung nagtitinda dun c Ronald
matagal nakong suki nun.. ;D
oo nga napansin ko puro wattage at kung gaano kalaki ang size ng woofer >:(..di bale, mas okay na don sila mag base para pag meron maganda na 10" lang ang woofer, eh mas mura..tiyagaan na lang ng antay at sana nga may dumating by mid-Nov.
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Nice tactic Sir and nice catch! ;D ;D
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try nyo check kung nandun pa sa little chatty ung CORAL, maganda pla un sbi ni ariel ung nagbabantay sa little chatty, bihira lng daw magkaroon ng ganun dun. ;)
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If I'm not mistaken Coral series III yun 8" selling for 3.5k wala pang tawad.. before meron akong series V 10" na ngayon ay nasa father na ni sir Rascal101 maganda tumunog specially nung kinabit namin sa AU-D907F ni sir Rascal match in heaven..
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mga bossing ask lng kung san pa nakakabili ng surplus speaker maliban po sa pier? baka my alam po kau sa bandang pampanga,, bulacan and sa manila.. balak ko pong magset up ng home theater,, maraming salamat po sa reply..
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If I'm not mistaken Coral series III yun 8" selling for 3.5k wala pang tawad.. before meron akong series V 10" na ngayon ay nasa father na ni sir Rascal101 maganda tumunog specially nung kinabit namin sa AU-D907F ni sir Rascal match in heaven..
Nakahanap rin ako ng ganitong speaker sa Little Chatty's. Kaya lang noong buksan ko sa may tweeter napansin ko sa loob ng kaha na may binago sa speaker. Iba na kasi ang kahoy ... in short may gumalaw na. Anyway, binalik ko at pinagpalit ko ng dalawang speaker. Kaya ingat lang kapag bumibili ng speaker specially iyung mga hard to find o TOTL.
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Nakahanap rin ako ng ganitong speaker sa Little Chatty's. Kaya lang noong buksan ko sa may tweeter napansin ko sa loob ng kaha na may binago sa speaker. Iba na kasi ang kahoy ... in short may gumalaw na. Anyway, binalik ko at pinagpalit ko ng dalawang speaker. Kaya ingat lang kapag bumibili ng speaker specially iyung mga hard to find o TOTL.
try ko dumaan next sunday pagkagaling sa divisoria, sana meron mga bago..and hanapin ko na din yung coral na yan..sana makinis at di pa nagagalaw ang loob. :)
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bihira yata coral dun...pero sna nga makatyempo ka. cguro ung sinasabi ni sir mel malamang un ang nkita ko.
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try ko dumaan next sunday pagkagaling sa divisoria, sana meron mga bago..and hanapin ko na din yung coral na yan..sana makinis at di pa nagagalaw ang loob. :)
cge sir balitaan mo rin kami kung ano ung magagandang speaker ngayon sa pier? ;)
at kung meron naman sa amplifier post mo naman sa kabilang thread..
I remember before pag pumupunta ako sa pier dala dala ko pa ung printout nung mga list from niji website...hehe pero syempre nde mo dapat papakita sa mga nagtitinda dun or else magkaka-idea sila.. ;D
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cge sir balitaan mo rin kami kung ano ung magagandang speaker ngayon sa pier? ;)
at kung meron naman sa amplifier post mo naman sa kabilang thread..
I remember before pag pumupunta ako sa pier dala dala ko pa ung printout nung mga list from niji website...hehe pero syempre nde mo dapat papakita sa mga nagtitinda dun or else magkaka-idea sila.. ;D
just an update..i went to pier last weekend, kaunti na lang talaga ang mga padating nila. Yung mga amps wala ng mga rare item kung meron man mukhang naka reserved na, meron isang luxman don, may nakalagay na reserved ;D. sa mga speaker meron mga bagong dating pero hindi ganon kadami, at medyo mataas na ang bentahan.. sa mga naghahanap ng jbl na pang surround duty, meron akong nakita don pero di ko nailista yung model..hopefully nandoon pa yon since kaunti na din ang namimili ngayon don.
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tyempuhan na lang talaga ngayon..
pero kahit papano may ilan ilan pa rin
naman naliligaw na magandang items.. ;D
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I passed by a friendly junk Jap hifi importer here in Davao and found a pair of unusual speakers. These were released in mid-90s by Canon, the Japanese camera firm, but were made exclusively in UK designed by Allen Boothroyd of Meridian's Boothroyd and Stuart (http://www.stereophile.com/content/canon-s-35-loudspeaker) for worldwide distribution. It was originally quoted at $400 without the stands.
Canon stopped its hifi line after this but when the S-35 was out on the market, it was called Darth Vader, black jellyfish, mushroom, or helmet speakers. I'd agree with Stereophile's review of the S-35 and would even say it was a bit generous (Canon probably paid a full page ad). But then again, the S-35 is a rare speaker and would probably qualify to be in a museum that showcases industrial designs. So, I took this pair home.
I have to post the photos here -- not on Vintage Gallery thread -- since the S-35 does not qualify as vintage hifi.
with the original stands
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon01a.jpg)
removed from the stand
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon02a.jpg)
back of the speaker
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon1c.jpg)
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Wow, unusual construction pero parang omnidirectional ang dating. Palagay ko ser ang lawak ng sweet spot nyan, or the whole room will be the sweet spot.
Congrats sir!
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Salamat, yes it's omni-directional. I was supposed to pick up an old Leak 2060 (sandwich-type woofers) just for collection last Monday but there's a croaking sound from one of the speakers when I tested it with the volume reasonably pumped up. So, I bought the Canon S-35 instead.
What's good about the S-35 is that my wife likes it a lot. She thinks it sounds impressive and yes, she also noted she couldn't locate where the sound was coming from. Very nice for a condo unit, she said, since it produces 'good sound' plus its artsy look.
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Salamat, yes it's omni-directional. I was supposed to pick up an old Leak 2060 (sandwich-type woofers) just for collection last Monday but there's a croaking sound from one of the speakers when I tested it with the volume reasonably pumped up. So, I bought the Canon S-35 instead.
What's good about the S-35 is that my wife likes it a lot. She thinks it sounds impressive and yes, she also noted she couldn't locate where the sound was coming from. Very nice for a condo unit, she said, since it produces 'good sound' plus its artsy look.
congrats sir sandawa, parang R2d2 ang look, ;), btw, saan sa davao nakuha mo yan sir? baka meron pa isa? :)
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ang ganda sir...omni-directional and the design is really something. buti sir meron pang mga naliligaw na bago o magaganda diyan? so how was the price? may mga amp pa ba sir like sansui and marantz or onkyo?
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molins,
Got it from a trader who informs me of used hifi arrivals from Japan. Meron akong nakita nito 3 years ago, same source, pero walang stands kaya hindi ko kinuha. Malaking bagay yung original stands kasi this unconventional design needs optimum placement. BTW, the iron stand is 21 inches high to the base of the speaker assembly. Height from the ground to the co-axial speaker firing down is 26 inches. Weight per speaker including the stand is about 9 kgs. S-35 is flat black, except the sound diffuser below the "helmet" -- medyo basa pa ng Pledge nung kunan ko ng photos kaya uneven black ang lumabas.
buzzworth,
Yun lang mga nabanggit ko sa itaas ang notables plus Coral X-VII (12-inch woofer, NOS, with box and speakers still in sealed plastic wrap)). Bukod dun wala nang dumating dito. Ang balita ko meron pa sa Cebu -- last week may naka-jackpot ng newer model Luxman valve amp. Mas maganda daw compared sa SQ-38FD ko.
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molins,
Got it from a trader who informs me of used hifi arrivals from Japan. Meron akong nakita nito 3 years ago, same source, pero walang stands kaya hindi ko kinuha. Malaking bagay yung original stands kasi this unconventional design needs optimum placement. BTW, the iron stand is 21 inches high to the base of the speaker assembly. Height from the ground to the co-axial speaker firing down is 26 inches. Weight per speaker including the stand is about 9 kgs. S-35 is flat black, except the sound diffuser below the "helmet" -- medyo basa pa ng Pledge nung kunan ko ng photos kaya uneven black ang lumabas.
Thanks sir, swerte mo naman, undecided pa talaga ako kung ano kukunin ko, ???, wala pa ako makita talaga, btw, meron pa surplus speakers na kaya ng t-amp? and wala pa ba group listening session sa setup mo?baka makasingit ako,, ;D ;D ;D
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Ang daming surplus speakers na pwede sa T-amp (I got my first two units of this 5 or 6 years ago). Ang maganda sa Jap surplus, high efficient karamihan at warm US west-coast sound. Dapat dalhin mo yung T-amp mo with alkaline batteries sa tindahan. Magdala ka ng wire mo at Ipod para hindi sumimangot yung mga tamad na salesmen. I-test mo lahat ng pwede, at dun ka pumili.
Taga-Davao ka ba? Kung nandito ka lang, dapat makilala mo yung bagong grupo dito. I know at least 4 guys here in PDVD who are in our group but not very active in posting. Umiikot kami ng bahay to listen to our set ups -- pero karamihan plaka ang gamit pag group sessions.
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para hindi sumimangot yung mga tamad na salesmen. I-test mo lahat ng pwede, at dun ka pumili.
na try ko na to,so far gentle naman sila, ;D ;D ;D ;D, taga-davao lang ako sir, so far ikaw lang kilala ko na active sa pdvd, no chance talaga to try hifi setup and vintage sound, compare ko sana sound ng portable setup ko sa mga bigatin na setup, and to know more the meaning of MUSIC ;D, hope marinig ko mga setup ng group mo, in the near future.. ;)thanks
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Yun lang mga nabanggit ko sa itaas ang notables plus Coral X-VII (12-inch woofer, NOS, with box and speakers still in sealed plastic wrap)). Bukod dun wala nang dumating dito. Ang balita ko meron pa sa Cebu -- last week may naka-jackpot ng newer model Luxman valve amp. Mas maganda daw compared sa SQ-38FD ko.
ganda naman sir ng Canon speaker na yan collectible..
tempting din ung Coral X-VII NOS pa.. How much selling nito sir?
buti pa jan sa Davao meron pa rin mga rare at TOTL na dumadating..
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molins,
A friendly tip: I think you should circulate more to know audio enthusiasts here personally, not just through discussion boards. I'm surprised you haven't met other PDVD guys in Davao yet.
gutchy,
The trader's asking price is P7k/pair. Relatively mura na.
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thanks for the tip sir sandawa, i would love to know them personally and learn from them, my quest starts, thanks ;)
btw, i was able to try a big pioneer bookshelf dont know the model,the store near chimes, my t amp can drive them with good sound, its priced at 5k with stand, cant listen to it properly because of noise, thinking of buying it, pero research muna..
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Yes, that's Joel Yap's store. This is what I mean by circulating and getting to know personally the people behind this hobby. Maliit lang ang Davao for audio enthusiasts like us. When you gain their confidence, you'll get texts and phone calls on info and weekend events we are all interested in. If Joel knows you as someone seriously into hifi, you'll get a good discount. The good speakers and amps, however, are not displayed in that outlet. They're in an old bodega/repair shop on Sta. Ana Ext. near the wharf. What you saw is a good pair -- the Pioneer S-55twin if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/speaker/s-55twinx.html
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Yes, that's Joel Yap's store. This is what I mean by circulating and getting to know personally the people behind this hobby. Maliit lang ang Davao for audio enthusiasts like us. When you gain their confidence, you'll get texts and phone calls on info and weekend events we are all interested in. If Joel knows you as someone seriously into hifi, you'll get a good discount. The good speakers and amps, however, are not displayed in that outlet. They're in an old bodega/repair shop on Sta. Ana Ext. near the wharf. What you saw is a good pair -- the Pioneer S-55twin if I'm not mistaken.
http://www.audio-heritage.jp/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/speaker/s-55twinx.html
it looks something like that, but not the horn type tweeter, they sound very well, considering the noise, and a small tamp and ipod , 91db pala sensitivity, a good plus for t amp user, ;D, i will try to audition again some speakers, specially sa bodega, hopefully, yes world is too small for those who love music, our universal language.. ;D
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molins,
A friendly tip: I think you should circulate more to know audio enthusiasts here personally, not just through discussion boards. I'm surprised you haven't met other PDVD guys in Davao yet.
gutchy,
The trader's asking price is P7k/pair. Relatively mura na.
Sir Gutchy,
Big Brother ng Coral XV ... Ganda nito ... hehehe
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it looks something like that, but not the horn type tweeter, they sound very well, considering the noise, and a small tamp and ipod , 91db pala sensitivity, a good plus for t amp user, ;D, i will try to audition again some speakers, specially sa bodega, hopefully, yes world is too small for those who love music, our universal language.. ;D
Sorry, I posted the wrong model. The one on display is Pioneer S-55twin SD (not horn tweeter). That pair has been there for about a year now and started with a P6k price. With the stands, P5k is reasonable, probably even cheap. Not many speakers in Joel's bodega now but the Coral X-VII at an efficiency rating of 94 to 97db/w/meter would be a good option for your t-amp. I don't think the t-amp could drive its 12-inch woofer, but at least, when you move to bigger amps, you'll have a big speaker to hear low notes from those old Hammonds.
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Sir Gutchy,
Big Brother ng Coral XV ... Ganda nito ... hehehe
Ganda nga Mel at saka NOS pa ito.
Sayang malayo lang.
Meron akong T-amp TA2022 gandang i-match sana dito.
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Oo nga eh. Nakakita rin ako ng Coral XVII sa Pier kaya lang - sa pagalaala ko 10K ang presyo. Medyo harang.
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Oo nga eh. Nakakita rin ako ng Coral XVII sa Pier kaya lang - sa pagalaala ko 10K ang presyo. Medyo harang.
tama ka sir rascal, talagang tumaas na ang price ng mga rare item sa pier..yung diatone dati 3k may makukuha ka, ngayon parating 4.5K ang price ::) hirap na bumili, tiyempuhan na lang yung mga tipong sleeper na amp at speaker, makakakuha ka ng mura huwag ka lang pahalata na sobrang excited ka ng makita mo yung item ;D
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I passed by a friendly junk Jap hifi importer here in Davao and found a pair of unusual speakers. These were released in mid-90s by Canon, the Japanese camera firm, but were made exclusively in UK designed by Allen Boothroyd of Meridian's Boothroyd and Stuart (http://www.stereophile.com/content/canon-s-35-loudspeaker) for worldwide distribution. It was originally quoted at $400 without the stands.
Canon stopped its hifi line after this but when the S-35 was out on the market, it was called Darth Vader, black jellyfish, mushroom, or helmet speakers. I'd agree with Stereophile's review of the S-35 and would even say it was a bit generous (Canon probably paid a full page ad). But then again, the S-35 is a rare speaker and would probably qualify to be in a museum that showcases industrial designs. So, I took this pair home.
I have to post the photos here -- not on Vintage Gallery thread -- since the S-35 does not qualify as vintage hifi.
with the original stands
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon01a.jpg)
removed from the stand
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon02a.jpg)
back of the speaker
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon1c.jpg)
Looks like an imperial commander from the movie Star Wars :D
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mga bossing how about Japan Surplus shops? may nakapagtry na ba na mag scout dun?
yung japan surplus na may mga beds, mountain bikes cookwares etc..
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Good Day po Sir/Mam, Newbie here lang po... Maganda Speaker din po ba CORAL DX-5B japan surplus din po sya, merun lang po nagbebenta sakin eh...
Rating of a mode
System 3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit For low-pass: 26cm corn type
For inside regions: 7cm dome shape
For high regions: 2cm dome shape
Play frequency band 35Hz - 35000Hz
Impedance 6ohms
Program sauce input 150W
The moment maximum input 300W
Crossover frequency 550Hz, 7000Hz
Output sound pressure level 92dB/W-m
Dimensions Width 315x height 585x depth of 320mm
Weight 17kg.
any comments po... Thanks a lot.
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Good Day po Sir/Mam, Newbie here lang po... Maganda Speaker din po ba CORAL DX-5B japan surplus din po sya, merun lang po nagbebenta sakin eh...
Rating of a mode
System 3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit For low-pass: 26cm corn type
For inside regions: 7cm dome shape
For high regions: 2cm dome shape
Play frequency band 35Hz - 35000Hz
Impedance 6ohms
Program sauce input 150W
The moment maximum input 300W
Crossover frequency 550Hz, 7000Hz
Output sound pressure level 92dB/W-m
Dimensions Width 315x height 585x depth of 320mm
Weight 17kg.
any comments po... Thanks a lot.
Grab mo agad yan baka maunahan ka ng iba rare yan, 92db 35khz sh!t that the old school rated conservatively. match mo ng tubes yan, panalo. basta good condition ah? imagine 17kilos ang isa damn!
send ka ng pics after mo pa purchase, san pala location mo?
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mga bossing how about Japan Surplus shops? may nakapagtry na ba na mag scout dun?
yung japan surplus na may mga beds, mountain bikes cookwares etc..
saan sir yung japan surplus shop na sinasabi mo?
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Grab mo agad yan baka maunahan ka ng iba rare yan, 92db 35khz sh!t that the old school rated conservatively. match mo ng tubes yan, panalo. basta good condition ah? imagine 17kilos ang isa damn!
send ka ng pics after mo pa purchase, san pala location mo?
Actually Sir sa Tito ko po yun speaker (good Condition pa) na yun na kinakantahan ko sa kanya bago siya bumalik ulit sa abroad merun pa nga yun kasama Luzman-L507u amp at ang lupit po talaga tunog nun, sabi nya bilhin ko daw sabay tawa... Pasig City po location namin sir.
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Actually Sir sa Tito ko po yun speaker (good Condition pa) na yun na kinakantahan ko sa kanya bago siya bumalik ulit sa abroad merun pa nga yun kasama Luzman-L507u amp at ang lupit po talaga tunog nun, sabi nya bilhin ko daw sabay tawa... Pasig City po location namin sir.
i think it the old Luxman if im not mistaken, bro baka binibiro ka ng tito mo? hehe or hes teasing you, if ever he will sell that (seriously) bilihin mo na, its not the pricetag but the rarety nung gears bro. speakers palang if i remember it right coral's are hard to find specially the NOS. we had two Corals forgot the models, pero yung istura nya has white cone with inverted surrounds, bro walang sinabi yung mga speakers nagyon sa clarity nun.
it looked like this full range driver
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/coral_flat8a.jpg)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSCF4404copy.jpg)
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ewan ko lang sir kung yun pagkaka intindi ko merun lang sya gusto ipagawa tito ko sakin bago nya ibigay sakin gamit nya, medyo marami kasi syang ipa repair sakin electronics gadget gamit nila sa bahay eh hindi ko magawa kasi medyo busy pa ako sa work ko dito ako baguio naka distino now eh... Nasa baba po yung wedsite ng Coral speaker at Luxman amp nya.
http://audio-database.com/CORAL/speaker/dx-5b-e.html
http://www.stereomojo.com/Luxman%20L507u%20review/LuxmanL507uAmpReview.htm
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Yung Coral na speaker na same sa Tito ko now pero mas maganda yung outer box eh may nakita po ako sa Pier dati pa worth almost 6K pero nakuha din at that time ng koreano...
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Wow bro drooling stereo set-up na yun.
imagine 35KHZ! man tenga ko hanggang 20Hz-20Khz lang ang naririnig eh, may degration pa dahil sa age hehe! though 35Hz is decent enough for a low transducer, still 17Kg ang isa imagine BS pa yun.
kidding aside! bro if ever you got that specially the amp swerte mo na talga.
i have a JBL control Now! which use to be 250USD and i got for 63USD at Cosco, got 5 sets and tada! 30Khz of crisp sound! match lang ng sub to have a decent lows...
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/JBL-Control-Now-Speakers.jpg)
JBL Control now are on top of Euros 8 towers (Bed room set-up)
(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/hanns76/DSC_0030.jpg)
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I passed by a friendly junk Jap hifi importer here in Davao and found a pair of unusual speakers. These were released in mid-90s by Canon, the Japanese camera firm, but were made exclusively in UK designed by Allen Boothroyd of Meridian's Boothroyd and Stuart (http://www.stereophile.com/content/canon-s-35-loudspeaker) for worldwide distribution. It was originally quoted at $400 without the stands.
Canon stopped its hifi line after this but when the S-35 was out on the market, it was called Darth Vader, black jellyfish, mushroom, or helmet speakers. I'd agree with Stereophile's review of the S-35 and would even say it was a bit generous (Canon probably paid a full page ad). But then again, the S-35 is a rare speaker and would probably qualify to be in a museum that showcases industrial designs. So, I took this pair home.
I have to post the photos here -- not on Vintage Gallery thread -- since the S-35 does not qualify as vintage hifi.
with the original stands
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon01a.jpg)
removed from the stand
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon02a.jpg)
back of the speaker
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/canon1c.jpg)
Wow sir Nani, pinagpala ka talaga pagdating sa mga magagandang items like this ;)
panalo yang Canon na yan, ganda ng itsura :)
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I just want to share photos and impressions of my latest find, a Sansui S-alpha 9 speaker, data of which are hardly available online. I don't think this is an exceptional speaker, definitely not made for the alpha 907 series amps, but it was likely issued in late '90s -- current resale value in Tokyo's hifi online auctions from $100 to $150/pair. Sansui was an amplifier company and never re-established its reputation as hifi speaker manufacturer since it ended partnership with JBL in the '70s.
I got this, without tweeters, along with a cheap black Pioneer phono (PL-A350B), an upscale Sony tape deck (TC-K555ESx) and a multi-disc Pioneer CDP (PD-M50) for P5k from a junk shop here in Davao. Luckily, all four are working well now, but the S-a9s needed rehab. Found a pair of classic Bill Hecht (PhaseTech) soft-dome tweeters in my storage room, which fit the S-a9 holes. It's been in service for at least a week now.
Sensitivity could be in mid-90s (db) as it mimics large speakers. It plays louder and produces fuller sound compared with, say, the vintage Celestion SL-6 (I still have the original 6 and its successor, the 6s) whose sensitivity is at low 80s (db). S-a9 is a bit larger, actually deeper by about 3 inches, than the SL-6 and the KEF-101. The good sound, however, breaks when played as loud as my JBL monitors. At least, the Celestions and the KEF (even the Epos 14) don't lose their character when played very loud, but they do exhibit inferiority compared with the heavyweights at live concert SPLs.
Anyway, here's my newest toy (with the candy-like look):
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa903a.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa906.jpg)
(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/nanideleon/sa910.jpg)
nani,,,,available pa ba? ::) ;D
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ewan ko lang sir kung yun pagkaka intindi ko merun lang sya gusto ipagawa tito ko sakin bago nya ibigay sakin gamit nya, medyo marami kasi syang ipa repair sakin electronics gadget gamit nila sa bahay eh hindi ko magawa kasi medyo busy pa ako sa work ko dito ako baguio naka distino now eh... Nasa baba po yung wedsite ng Coral speaker at Luxman amp nya.
http://audio-database.com/CORAL/speaker/dx-5b-e.html
http://www.stereomojo.com/Luxman%20L507u%20review/LuxmanL507uAmpReview.htm
Ganda nitong Coral Speakers na ito. Meron kami Coral XV speakers na nabili sa isang kaibigan.
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Good day sir rascal,,, Yup ganda po talaga sounds output nyan lalo na po yung bass nyan may gapang kahit ano play mo. This speaker po mathing with Luxman-507 amp... Dasal ko lang na sana sakin po mapunta itong preciuos na ito.
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Sir hattori_hanzo, ang ganda din po pala sound set up nyo at naka cabinet pa...
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Sir hattori_hanzo, ang ganda din po pala sound set up nyo at naka cabinet pa...
thanks plan to upgrade my sub bitin na ako sa 4.15 need earthshaking bass hehe
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just went to a suking surplus shop and found technics sb-5000 speaker. I was not able to listen to it since nasa ilalim siya ng ibang speaker....so hingi na lang ako ng opinion ng mga guro with regard to the sound quality of this speaker.
Okay ba siya for a dedicated audio? thanks. :)
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(http://www.vintagetechnics.info/images/sb5000a6000acatalog.jpg)
http://www.vintagetechnics.info/loudspeakers/sb5000a6000a.htm
the small one on the right
http://my.reset.jp/~inu/ProductsDataBase/Products/Technics/LINEAR_PHASE_SP/LINEAR_PHASE_SP_1977.htm
balikan mo na!!! sunday walang traffic ;D
baka maunahan ka pa ng ibang makabasa neto hehehe
btw wala pa HT noon lahat pang-audio
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(http://www.vintagetechnics.info/images/sb5000a6000acatalog.jpg)
http://www.vintagetechnics.info/loudspeakers/sb5000a6000a.htm
the small one on the right
http://my.reset.jp/~inu/ProductsDataBase/Products/Technics/LINEAR_PHASE_SP/LINEAR_PHASE_SP_1977.htm
balikan mo na!!! sunday walang traffic ;D
baka maunahan ka pa ng ibang makabasa neto hehehe
btw wala pa HT noon lahat pang-audio
Mukhang kayang kaya i-drive ng T-amp mo mga ito bro Rene. T-amp ba yong nasa ibabaw noong nasa kaliwa. hehe
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Mukhang kayang kaya i-drive ng T-amp mo mga ito bro Rene. T-amp ba yong nasa ibabaw noong nasa kaliwa. hehe
ayoko, thanks!!!
t-amp+neos kasya sa backpack, at tag-isang kamay yung epos els3 pag lumindol nag-tsuami ;D ;D ;D
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http://translate.google.com.ph/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://audio-heritage.jp/TECHNICS/speaker/sb-5000.html&ei=gDx8Tcy5EcPtrQfk4fW-BQ&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=11&ved=0CEEQ7gEwCg&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dtechnics%2Bsb5000%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dopera%26hs%3Ddfx%26rls%3Den%26channel%3Dsuggest%26prmd%3Divns
technics sb5000
Wideband low-distortion speaker unit, which considers the network unit and the proper placement of the unit, speaker system achieves a flat sound pressure frequency response and phase frequency characteristics.
In addition to high efficiency Ejjiresutouita, 25cm woofer driven by a bass-reflex cabinet. 93.5dB / W to achieve high efficiency.
Method Two 2-way speaker system Riniafeizubasurefu
- Floor type
Use unit Low-frequency: 25cm cone type
High frequency: 6cm cone type
Crossover frequency 2000Hz
Impedance 8Ω
Sound Pressure Level 93.5dB/W/m
Maximum input instantaneous 75W
External dimensions Width 350 × 717 × depth 323mm height
Weight 16.0kg
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Anybody who has the Polk Audio Monitor 5? This is last produced in 1986 by Polk. 3 way bookshelf with bass radiator (sealed type)?
Thanks
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just went to a suking surplus shop and found technics sb-5000 speaker. I was not able to listen to it since nasa ilalim siya ng ibang speaker....so hingi na lang ako ng opinion ng mga guro with regard to the sound quality of this speaker.
Okay ba siya for a dedicated audio? thanks. :)
Hi Buzzworth
Hindi ako guru, but mayroon akong SB-5000, also from the pier. They are superb, in my opinion, especially for the price. Actually, kahit anong Technics Phase Linear is worth a listen, from the "lowly" SB-4500/A to the mighty SB-10,000. The SB-7000's in particular, are legendary.
The SB-5000 was lower-mid in terms of price when new. I paid P3,500 in 2008, at the store near BPI. I would be willing to pay P4,500 today.
Bass response is good, but a lot depends on the room. Where these speakers really shine is the tweeters. Clear, open, bright, but not harsh. Surprising resolution from a cone, rather than a dome. The overall sound picture is balanced, and sounds good without EQ, but I usually boost about 1-2 dB at 8 kHz and 3-4 dB at 16kHz, as they're in my office, so I listen at low levels.
I do more than half my listening at the office; the fact that I chose these SB-5000's out of my 6 pairs of speakers says something.
If you want to hear my SB-5000's, I work at Southgate Tower Pasong Tamo, you can drop by any lunchtime, if you work in Makati. Just text me, as I don't regularly monitor this forum.
rasgo
0917 819 4416
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Mga bros, just wanted to find out if there's anything new on this topic. Kasi very interesting and informative especially for those who like vintage speakers like me. Thanks bros!!!
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Mga sir,
I'd like to hear some opinions. I have a little "problem".
I have a pair of vintage Speaker Yamaha NS-2000. I bought them a year ago & haven't really decided what to do with them. They're fine, except mga gasgas sa box & sira ang cone edge. Wow talaga ang tunog ng hi & mid kahit walang edge ang carbon fiber (on low volume).
I'm contemplating on restoring them, selling them as is, or swapping them with a DSLR w HD video, dahil my business is photo/video coverage.
I hope to hear from you guys. Tempting proposals are welcome if anyone is interested to acquire them :D
Thanks!
(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp7/Johnyphotos/yamahans2000b.jpg)
(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp7/Johnyphotos/yamahans2000a.jpg)
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Mga sir,
I'd like to hear some opinions. I have a little "problem".
I have a pair of vintage Speaker Yamaha NS-2000. I bought them a year ago & haven't really decided what to do with them. They're fine, except mga gasgas sa box & sira ang cone edge. Wow talaga ang tunog ng hi & mid kahit walang edge ang carbon fiber (on low volume).
I'm contemplating on restoring them, selling them as is, or swapping them with a DSLR w HD video, dahil my business is photo/video coverage.
I hope to hear from you guys. Tempting proposals are welcome if anyone is interested to acquire them :D
Thanks!
(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp7/Johnyphotos/yamahans2000b.jpg)
(http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp7/Johnyphotos/yamahans2000a.jpg)
DIBS. ;D Kindly PM price. ;)
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DIBS. ;D Kindly PM price. ;)
Ganda ng enclosure nu? Sarap ayusan. :)
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Good Day po Sir/Mam, Newbie here lang po... Maganda Speaker din po ba CORAL DX-5B japan surplus din po sya, merun lang po nagbebenta sakin eh...
Rating of a mode
System 3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit For low-pass: 26cm corn type
For inside regions: 7cm dome shape
For high regions: 2cm dome shape
Play frequency band 35Hz - 35000Hz
Impedance 6ohms
Program sauce input 150W
The moment maximum input 300W
Crossover frequency 550Hz, 7000Hz
Output sound pressure level 92dB/W-m
Dimensions Width 315x height 585x depth of 320mm
Weight 17kg.
any comments po... Thanks a lot.
Specs pa lang maganda na at puwedeng isama sa listahan ng for listening test. Wag mo pakawalan ito bro. ;)
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Hi.
Wow! These are hard to find speakers. This could be a very good restoration project. PM price if its feasible. Shipping pa lang nito medyo mahal na :-\. BTW, the Canons are a great catch. Weird but interesting. Just the way I like it! ;)
Looking forward to your immediate reply.
Thanks.
Tony
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hi guys, what do you think about the CORAL XVII?
Is it a keeper or should i sell it na lang?
(http://audio-database.com/CORAL/speaker/x-vii.JPG)
System 3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit For low-pass: 31cm corn type
For inside regions: 9cm dome shape
For high regions: 3.6cm dome shape
Impedance 8ohms
Program sauce input 120W
The moment maximum input 240W
Play frequency band 30Hz - 30kHz
Crossover frequency 470Hz, 5kHz
Output sound pressure level normal:94dB/W/m
maximum:97dB/W/m
The maximum sound pressure level 118dB
Dimensions Width 390x height 710x depth of 350mm
Weight 27kg
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hi guys, what do you think about the CORAL XVII?
Is it a keeper or should i sell it na lang?
(http://audio-database.com/CORAL/speaker/x-vii.JPG)
System 3 ways, 3 speaker bass-reflex system, and a book shelf type
Use unit For low-pass: 31cm corn type
For inside regions: 9cm dome shape
For high regions: 3.6cm dome shape
Impedance 8ohms
Program sauce input 120W
The moment maximum input 240W
Play frequency band 30Hz - 30kHz
Crossover frequency 470Hz, 5kHz
Output sound pressure level normal:94dB/W/m
maximum:97dB/W/m
The maximum sound pressure level 118dB
Dimensions Width 390x height 710x depth of 350mm
Weight 27kg
It's a keeper if you match it properly with the right amplifier that would suit your taste or preference.
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Bro, that is a keeper. But if you want to sell it, just pm me...hehehe.
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Me mga Car speaker din ba sa Pier
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Wala na po bang active collectors ng surplus speakers dito? Meron pa bang good sources of this speakers? Tnx :)
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Maraming active collectors ng Surplus speakers dito. Medyo "shy" lang o tinatatamad mag-post. Napakaraming surplus stores na nagsusulputan. Sa Bulacan lang, hindi na mabilang ng daliri ko. Idagdag mo pa iyung sa Pampanga, sa Fairview etc etc puwede ka talagang mangolekta. Pera lang talaga ang "major" issue ;D
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Maraming active collectors ng Surplus speakers dito. Medyo "shy" lang o tinatatamad mag-post. Napakaraming surplus stores na nagsusulputan. Sa Bulacan lang, hindi na mabilang ng daliri ko. Idagdag mo pa iyung sa Pampanga, sa Fairview etc etc puwede ka talagang mangolekta. Pera lang talaga ang "major" issue ;D
san po sir banda sa fairview meron surplus speakers?
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Maraming active collectors ng Surplus speakers dito. Medyo "shy" lang o tinatatamad mag-post. Napakaraming surplus stores na nagsusulputan. Sa Bulacan lang, hindi na mabilang ng daliri ko. Idagdag mo pa iyung sa Pampanga, sa Fairview etc etc puwede ka talagang mangolekta. Pera lang talaga ang "major" issue ;D
+1 Saan bro sa Fairview may surplus shop?
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my yamaha ns-50 speakers. surplus from my dad:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/fpdguzman/DSC00085.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/fpdguzman/DSC00086.jpg)
is it ok to upgrade yung mga speakers nya or leave it as is? i'm thinking of selling them so i can purchase bookshelf speakers. or should i just keep them and buy separate bookshelf speakers in the future?:)
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my yamaha ns-50 speakers. surplus from my dad:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/fpdguzman/DSC00085.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v301/fpdguzman/DSC00086.jpg)
is it ok to upgrade yung mga speakers nya or leave it as is? i'm thinking of selling them so i can purchase bookshelf speakers. or should i just keep them and buy separate bookshelf speakers in the future?:)
save that that a jewel!
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BOSE acoustimas cubes up for grabs check b&s section
(http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/3955/photoon20120530at1255.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/535/photoon20120530at1255.jpg/)
(http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/1288/photoon20120530at12542.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/41/photoon20120530at12542.jpg/)
(http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/7738/photoon20120530at1253.th.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/photoon20120530at1253.jpg/)
i know your goods were already sold. but please. no posting of for sale items here. lets just do it on the markeplace boards.
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i know your goods were already sold. but please. no posting of for sale items here. lets just do it on the markeplace boards.
oks Sir thanks
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Meron binebentang ONKYO MONITOR 2000 sa akin today. nagdadalawang isip ako kasi sira na ang edge ng mga woofers nya tulad nung Yamaha ns-2000 ni sir boyetf. Ang cabinets nman nya ay Mint condition pa. Sobrang bigat tlga ng speakers.
Madali lng bang palitaan ang edge nito? Help nman jan mga masters.
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Meron binebentang ONKYO MONITOR 2000 sa akin today. nagdadalawang isip ako kasi sira na ang edge ng mga woofers nya ...
Madali lng bang palitaan ang edge nito? Help nman jan mga masters.
kung edge lan sira nyan sir, kayang kaya palitan yan. even you can diy that. you can buy surround edge materials sa raon...check Deeco or Sales st.
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Hndi ba mag change yung sound quality nya sir? I mean parang yung tweeters na kapag na rewind na eh iba na ang tunog sa original.
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Meron binebentang ONKYO MONITOR 2000 sa akin today. nagdadalawang isip ako kasi sira na ang edge ng mga woofers nya tulad nung Yamaha ns-2000 ni sir boyetf. Ang cabinets nman nya ay Mint condition pa. Sobrang bigat tlga ng speakers.
Madali lng bang palitaan ang edge nito? Help nman jan mga masters.
Kunin mo yan. maganda yang onkyo na yan. ;D
Most vintage speakers have there edges replaced, its part of the speaker's life cycle. it should not affect the sound from the woofer, not unless masyadong stiff yung edge na nailagay o tabingi o may kapalpakan.hehe
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Hndi ba mag change yung sound quality nya sir? I mean parang yung tweeters na kapag na rewind na eh iba na ang tunog sa original.
may change rin yan siemprei, kasi di naman original ipapalit mo. importante, buo pa ung motor coil and spider assy/damper nya. kung maganda ang tunog sa iyo afterwards, chillax and be happy ;)
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Salamat sir iamlistening and dana. Kakausapin ko agad yung seller ;D
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mga master,
any info about technics sb-7000, di gaanong mint pero komplete siya woofer need to re edge, what about the pricing and the sound of this speaker....
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kung edge lang may mga labas na magandang mayerials tulad ng ruber typ the best pti spider edge papalitan mo na rin bka nakalubog na rin o lundo na...make sure pag binalik ito maganda ang pagkaka align nto ng walang sayad sa magnet at coil.. cguro may konting pagbabago parin ngyari na rin sakin yan sa pioneer,, pero ok nman maayos prin tumunog.. a yung lang kasi ang budget ko.. that tym dpa kayang bumili ng bago.. :D
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ano kaya bago meron? meron bang naka ikot sa pier?
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Has anyone heard of the vintage Denon SC-101 two way bs speakers. Any short reviews? Thanks.
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mga master,
any info about technics sb-7000, di gaanong mint pero komplete siya woofer need to re edge, what about the pricing and the sound of this speaker....
i'm no master. but if i were you kunin mo na yan brader kung maganda ang price sa iyo.
http://www.thevintageknob.org/technics-SB-7000.html
it was priced before 1977 at 90,000yen, their counterparts were around 100thou, but most sought after yung sb7000. that was a big amount during that time....
http://audio-heritage.jp/TECHNICS/speaker/sb-7000.html
here's a review of sb 7000a from canuckmart
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=17154
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I bought a few used/surplus speakers from Dau way back in 1997-2000 which I also used for some HT set ups for friends and families. The ones that I kept and am still using up to now is the pair of Jamo Surround 200 dipole speakers. Still works great and I love the sound. Also, these are still the Jamo speakers made in Denmark. So I was double lucky to have acquired it for only Php3,500 in 1999. 5th Ave in Makati sold the same model for about 7-8k if I'm not mistaken.
More than a decade later, I went to Dau last week. They don't have as many stores selling surplus audio anymore but I saw a pair of Mission speakers. Forgot the model but it had a front and back plastic panel with wood cabinet. The 5-1/4" woofer cone is also made of plastic. The tweeter is located below the woofer. I auditioned it and it still sounded very good. Cosmetic is about 8/10. Selling for 5k/pair. The shop is at the Dau Plaza near Mc Donald. Forgot the store's name too.
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Wala na posts dito pero grabe tinaas ng surplus at vintage speakers.
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Akala ko may bagong nag-post ng kanyang bagong biling "surplus speaker".
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pareng corpse grinder post mo nga dito ang focal mo na 800 mo lang nabili. hahaha. hindi daw nakatanggi ang tindera kasi kakabukas lang. bawal sa intsik ang tumanggi sa buena mano. sa japan surplus nya nabili naman to. hindi sa pier.
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ito yung na dali na speakers sa matanda bantay sa japan surplus ;D hindi naka tangi hahaha sa 800php.
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/focal/tantal-507/prd_119809_1594crx.aspx
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Nice. Jackpot.
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ito yung na dali na speakers sa matanda bantay sa japan surplus ;D hindi naka tangi hahaha sa 800php.
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/focal/tantal-507/prd_119809_1594crx.aspx
nung unang sulyap mo nga pre magkano benta sayo? 3k tama ba? haha. tapos sinaktuhan mo lang na unang bukas. hahahaha..
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ito yung na dali na speakers sa matanda bantay sa japan surplus ;D hindi naka tangi hahaha sa 800php.
http://www.audioreview.com/cat/speakers/floorstanding-speakers/focal/tantal-507/prd_119809_1594crx.aspx
wow! nakadenggoy ka ng matanda!
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yung una 2.8k sabi ko 2k na lng pumayag naman....sabi ko balik ako ate. after 1 week binalikan ko sabi ko ate baka pwedeng 800 kaka bukas pa lang ng japan stores bawal daw tumangi sa grasya hehehe...na budol budol ko si ate ;D
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saan japan store yuan
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sa salawag dasma,cavite sir pero parang wala na akong nakikita na speakers dun check nyo na lang.
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yung una 2.8k sabi ko 2k na lng pumayag naman....sabi ko balik ako ate. after 1 week binalikan ko sabi ko ate baka pwedeng 800 kaka bukas pa lang ng japan stores bawal daw tumangi sa grasya hehehe...na budol budol ko si ate ;D
Congrats bro sa dinggoy mo este jackpot pala.... :) kahit sa ibang lugar ganyan din, ang unang tatawad ibibigay kahit lugi at tangay pa puhunan.... Bilang balik e wish good luck mo lang sila.. Hinahalikan pa nga nila ang pera bago ilagay sa bulsa...
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hahahaha. basta hapon lang ang my ari o di kaya muslim. kasi pag pinoy lang din ang may ari malabo pa sa sabaw ng pusit yan madale mo.hahahahaha
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yung una 2.8k sabi ko 2k na lng pumayag naman....sabi ko balik ako ate. after 1 week binalikan ko sabi ko ate baka pwedeng 800 kaka bukas pa lang ng japan stores bawal daw tumangi sa grasya hehehe...na budol budol ko si ate ;D
wow, ang galing chief idol na kita. :)
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Congrats bro sa dinggoy mo este jackpot pala.... :) kahit sa ibang lugar ganyan din, ang unang tatawad ibibigay kahit lugi at tangay pa puhunan.... Bilang balik e wish good luck mo lang sila.. Hinahalikan pa nga nila ang pera bago ilagay sa bulsa...
ganun ata talaga kapag may gusto ka kailangan may gawin kang action hahaha....
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ganun ata talaga kapag may gusto ka kailangan may gawin kang action hahaha....
Ganun talaga bro.. Minsan sabay dumarating ang timing at swerte ... :)