Post by: Biggs on Mar 25, 2002 at 03:43 PM
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Post by: levi on Mar 25, 2002 at 11:46 PM
Editing your title to accomodate everything about Dynaudio. Thanks
Levi
Post by: muscleboy on Mar 27, 2002 at 08:47 AM
;D
Post by: rtsy on Apr 01, 2002 at 01:45 PM
I drive mine with a NAD T760. Amps/recievers in my shortlist when I bought were Rotel (but the 'Net was full of complaints about a particular Rotel receivers' reliability), Onkyo (The NAD just nosed out the Onkyo a tad), and EAD (but I chose to spend the extra money I'd cough up for a Threater Master on a trip to Bangkok instead where I bought a REL Q100E).
I started out in some heavy guage Monster Cable wire but later changed to Ixos Gamma 6003. That surely did wonders. Mids were clearer, highs smoother.
I think only the Listening group carries Dynaudio locally. I did see a second hand Audince Sub-30 at DCM and a 2nd hand C120+ at Audio Visual Driver.
Or you can wait for me to upgrade to the Contour series. But at the rate I'm saving, that'll be 10 years from now. :-)
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 09, 2002 at 06:15 PM
;D Triple X
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 09, 2002 at 11:11 PM
Post by: Archangel on Nov 10, 2002 at 11:35 AM
Post by: arnoldc on Nov 10, 2002 at 05:15 PM
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 10, 2002 at 05:47 PM
Have you decided on when and how to get your Dyne's? :)
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 10, 2002 at 08:48 PM
havent told the starbucks group pa pala.. hehe.. i got jay_cee_em's dynaudio 60's for a nice price.. hardly broken in.. still sounds a bit sibilant but they'll sound the way they should after a couple of months.. at least all dynaudios na ako hehe.. dadalhin ko din lahat to pag migrate ko hehe..
;D Triple X
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 10, 2002 at 09:58 PM
Great addition ang 60's for your 40's... pareho silang series, sure na sure na they'll sound good! :)
Kulang na lang Dyne na sub! hehhe! ;D
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 11, 2002 at 02:44 PM
i watched again this speedway mach II dvd last weekend. if you think your HT system is good enough, i suggest you try out this dvd at moderate to high listening levels and see whether your system will hold up to your expectations. a friend from a hifi store tore up a center speaker playing the dvd.
was so pleased to know that my dynaudios didn't budge a bit even at ear splitting sound levels.. ako na ang sumuko sa kanila.. nabingi ata ako last saturday.. hehe..
;D
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 12, 2002 at 12:11 AM
It depends on the amp kasi eh... if I were to get a Yamaha, I'd go for the Dyne's, kasi (for me), I like the sound of the soft dome tweeter paired with a Yam.
If I were to get a Denon, then I'd probably pick between the B&W and the Dynes.
Dynaudio speakers are a bit harder to drive. Low sentitivity and low impedance (usually in the 4's). So kung medyo low end ang amp, it'll work harder.
Here's one thing I can hear with the Dynes: garbage in = garbage out... :) Walang awa siya pag pangit ang recording!
But since I love my Dynes so much... I'll still end up with probably another Dynaudio...hehehe... ;)
Post by: rtsy on Nov 12, 2002 at 05:36 AM
i suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask your opinion this early about how dyne-As stand up against other speakers, specifically using a mid-fi amp.
When I put together my Home Theater system, I literally auditioned everything in the market: Paradigm, Definitive Technology, ProAc at Audio Den, Acoustic Energy,Sonus Faber, NHT, and PSB at Upscale, Energy, Dunlavy, Revel, at Audio Visual Driver, B&W and Mission at Sights & Sounds, etc., etc., etc.
After round 1, the Dynaudio Audience series came out on top.
In a National Geo or Discovery Channel documentary, they featured once a study made by various scientists where quantitatively, they linked what people perceive as beauty as an average of all the available options, e.g., what people consider to be a beautiful face is a nose that is the average of many different noses found on humans, ditto for eyes, cheeks, etc. What has this got to do with Dynaudio's?
In one word, balance. Dyns get that right. No one feature stands out like bass (w/c is stupendous for the size), the midrange (which is invovlving) or the treble (smooth, smooth highs). The Dyns shine in all these aspects.
So I went on round 2 of my speaker selection process where deliberately, I compared the Dynaudio to speakers far more expensive than the Audience line. The Dunlavy was a good 3 times the price, B&W's CDM (SE pa lang noon, hindi pa umaabot dito ang NT) series was a good 2 times the price. All that did was establish the Dynaudios as stonking value for money.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pinoydiophiles. Lots of Dynaudio users there (also Sonus Faber, couple of B&Ws and Martin Logans, etc.), including one with the Contour 1.3SE! I'm sure you'll get more info there.
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 12, 2002 at 09:29 AM
i suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask your opinion this early about how dyne-As stand up against other speakers, specifically using a mid-fi amp.
When I put together my Home Theater system, I literally auditioned everything in the market: Paradigm, Definitive Technology, ProAc at Audio Den, Acoustic Energy,Sonus Faber, NHT, and PSB at Upscale, Energy, Dunlavy, Revel, at Audio Visual Driver, B&W and Mission at Sights & Sounds, etc., etc., etc.
After round 1, the Dynaudio Audience series came out on top.
In a National Geo or Discovery Channel documentary, they featured once a study made by various scientists where quantitatively, they linked what people perceive as beauty as an average of all the available options, e.g., what people consider to be a beautiful face is a nose that is the average of many different noses found on humans, ditto for eyes, cheeks, etc. What has this got to do with Dynaudio's?
In one word, balance. Dyns get that right. No one feature stands out like bass (w/c is stupendous for the size), the midrange (which is invovlving) or the treble (smooth, smooth highs). The Dyns shine in all these aspects.
So I went on round 2 of my speaker selection process where deliberately, I compared the Dynaudio to speakers far more expensive than the Audience line. The Dunlavy was a good 3 times the price, B&W's CDM (SE pa lang noon, hindi pa umaabot dito ang NT) series was a good 2 times the price. All that did was establish the Dynaudios as stonking value for money.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pinoydiophiles. Lots of Dynaudio users there (also Sonus Faber, couple of B&Ws and Martin Logans, etc.), including one with the Contour 1.3SE! I'm sure you'll get more info there.
nicely said rtsy..
the dyns i bought was an exhaustive 6 months search for me (and a pal) for the best sounding speakers for a particular budget (20k at that time). i've demoed diff. models from b&w, jbl, infinity, psb, nht, revel, kef, paradigm, sonus faber (a near second), energy, mission, and a lot more and the dyns really stood out among them..
the midrange and highs are the most natural i've heard at this price range..
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Nov 12, 2002 at 02:03 PM
meowpao,
i get your point. medyo brighter than usual nga ang yamaha so a soft dome tweeter would be more appropriate. in fact, i would have gone for diamond 8.3 wharfs (d talaga kaya audience, eh) to match with my yamaha AV receiver if only they were better and more consistently crafted.
Triple X and rtsy,
which amps were plugged to the audience when you were patiently (wow 6 months!) auditioning them? did you use the same amps for all the other speakers?
rtsy,
di ba you have a pair of sonus faber concertinos? is it because the audience series is still more appropriate for HT than music?
thanks guys!
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 13, 2002 at 08:59 AM
thanks meowpao, rtsy and triple X for your replies!
meowpao,
i get your point. medyo brighter than usual nga ang yamaha so a soft dome tweeter would be more appropriate. in fact, i would have gone for diamond 8.3 wharfs (d talaga kaya audience, eh) to match with my yamaha AV receiver if only they were better and more consistently crafted.
Triple X and rtsy,
which amps were plugged to the audience when you were patiently (wow 6 months!) auditioning them? did you use the same amps for all the other speakers?
rtsy,
di ba you have a pair of sonus faber concertinos? is it because the audience series is still more appropriate for HT than music?
thanks guys!
tuff,
well, most of the time i was using the same amp. heck, i even ask oliver's (listening room) permission to demo the dyn aud 40 at a harman/kardon dealer. i'm using an avr 4000 to drive the dyns pala just in case you wanted to know.
payo ko sayo, if you can well afford to save up for a dyne, i suggest you do so. it is really worth your hard earned money. i was in the same situation before as there are cheaper brands out there.yun nga lang, doesn't sound as good. buti na lang di ako nagbago ng isip.
honestly, i still get mesmerized everytime my dyne starts playing.. faithful kase ang sound.. hehe..
;D triple x
Post by: v0elker on Nov 14, 2002 at 10:06 AM
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 14, 2002 at 10:52 AM
im looking at getting the audience 42 or 52 to be paired with a NAD T762 A/V receiver i have on pre-order (arriving in early december here in singapore)...
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
Hi V0elker,
Welcome to the forum! :)
I'm currenty driving my Dynes using a Yamaha 1200 receiver. Its rated at 80 watts x 6 (at 8ohm). This is probably similar to the NAD T752.
So far, I've had no problems whatsoever. I just don't crank it up to the max since this will certainly damage my equipment (this is the case for everything else too!)
Your NAD T762 should be able to drive the Dynes. It's 100 watts x6 (at 8ohm) right? And its a NAD! :)
If you want to be sure, you can always go off and have an audition. :)
Post by: rtsy on Nov 14, 2002 at 11:00 AM
rtsy,
which amps were plugged to the audience when you were patiently (wow 6 months!) auditioning them? did you use the same amps for all the other speakers?
di ba you have a pair of sonus faber concertinos? is it because the audience series is still more appropriate for HT than music?
Amp used when I auditioned Dynaudio Audience was Yamaha's then entry level 495 I think.
Also heard it in straight stereo with a Meridan integrated amp.
I wasn't able to use the same amp for all speakers. The Dyns I heard with Yammies (only entry to mid level brand carried by Listening then). The PSB/Acoustic Energy/Tannoy/B&W I heard with Onkyo. The Energy and Piega I heard with Denon and NAD. The Dunlavy I heard with NAD Silverline and Mark Levinson No.383 Integrated. The Paradigm, Definitive Technology I heard with Sunfire Cienma Grand.
Yes, I do have a pair of Sonus Faber Concertino in my stereo set-up. I went with Dyn for HT due to:
1--Cost. Pair of Concertino Home was nearly PhP15k more expensive than the Audience 40
2--The SF Center then (don't remember if Picollo Solo was the model then) had a documented frequency response anomaly (don't remember what) w/c may have been fixed now.
3--Bass punch. To my ears and your mileage may vary, movie sound needs punchier attack w/c the Dyns had vs. the Sonus' velvet smooth presentation that suits music more.
4--I listen to music on my HT far more than I do movies despite having a separate stereo set-up. I deliberately went for a different audio flavor on the HT set-up so I get two views.
Others would argue that there is only 1 sound all audiophiles must try to achieve, that of absolute neutrality and accuracy. I don't buy that. I buy gear I like to listen to. If it happens to be accurate, then that's fine. If it happens to be colored, then so be it.
Some parting thoughts on speakers. IMHO, speakers dictate a large proportion of the sonic character of your system. Be impatient and buy speakers that fit your budget at a particular point in time just so you complete a 5.1 set-up and you're likely to continue looking at the speakers you really wanted in the first place. You can always do it slowly. Start with the front stereo pair. Then get the center (w/c is most important in HT IMHO). Then get sub. Then get surround.
Post by: rtsy on Nov 14, 2002 at 11:07 AM
im looking at getting the audience 42 or 52 to be paired with a NAD T762 A/V receiver i have on pre-order (arriving in early december here in singapore)...
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
Four points:
1--NAD is known to understate their amp's power ratings. This is how they've established landmark products like the 3020, 302, C329 integrated amps, all have driven fairly difficult loads on 20wpc.
2--I drive my Dynaudio Audience 40 (front & rear) + C120+ center with a NAD T760 (50wpc I think). In my 25sqm room, I have NEVER complained of not enough volume/headroom/dynamics.
3--Don't get stuck up on impedance and power ratings. Be more concerned about system matching.
4--If you desire a cinematic sound with Dyns, Yammies are the way to go (quite flat on stereo, at least w/ the generation of Yammies I heard w/c was the time of the DSP-A1). If you desire a sound that is good on movies and still good on straight stereo, my vote goes to NAD then followed by Onkyo then by Denon. Note, I haven't heard the Harman-Kardon and Marantz electronics.
Again, you're ears may tell you otherwise so listen to 'em!
--Russ
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 19, 2002 at 10:10 AM
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 21, 2003 at 11:15 PM
are they worth the extra cost over the 42s?
thanks!
Post by: ants on Jan 22, 2003 at 01:40 AM
I asked for the prices of Dynaudio mobile speakers (for vehicles) and man are they expensive! Almost double from the nearest competitor.. And they require a very skilled technician to have them fine tuned according to your car's inside dimensions. Would make you think twice to have them installed in your car.. :-\
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!
Post by: muscleboy on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:05 AM
how much is a pair of Audience 52 these days?
are they worth the extra cost over the 42s?
thanks!
tuff,
the only difference i guess would be the bigger bass. yes i think it would be worth it though if you can always compensate using a subwoofer on buying a 42. a 42 (given the right powered amp) by the way has sufficient bass to suit your listening needs.
xXx
Post by: muscleboy on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:07 AM
I asked for the prices of Dynaudio mobile speakers (for vehicles) and man are they expensive! Almost double from the nearest competitor.. And they require a very skilled technician to have them fine tuned according to your car's inside dimensions. Would make you think twice to have them installed in your car.. :-\
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!
ya i agree with using a powerful amp to drive them. sana i could build my system on a car soon with all dynaudios.. hehe..
xXx
Post by: ants on Jan 22, 2003 at 09:41 AM
I asked for the prices of Dynaudio mobile speakers (for vehicles) and man are they expensive! Almost double from the nearest competitor.. And they require a very skilled technician to have them fine tuned according to your car's inside dimensions. Would make you think twice to have them installed in your car.. :-\
I'm still open to other brands out there.. though iba talaga and dynaudio sound..
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!
ya i agree with using a powerful amp to drive them. sana i could build my system on a car soon with all dynaudios.. hehe..
xXx
but with the price of the DYN sub, you can get other brands which would perform better
Post by: stradale on Jan 22, 2003 at 10:34 PM
im looking at getting the audience 42 or 52 to be paired with a NAD T762 A/V receiver i have on pre-order (arriving in early december here in singapore)...
when i posted in the local hifi forums here, most dyne owners were not sure the NAD would be enough to drive the dynes. they said the dynes require "beefy" amps to sing. they advised that the dynes sing best when paired with the big guys (krell, etc).
:-(
Voelker
sent you a PM.
Post by: v0elker on Jan 23, 2003 at 10:56 AM
dude, i already sent you my replies. sorry bout that, i rarely check them priv msgs.
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 25, 2003 at 01:00 AM
Post by: rony on Jan 25, 2003 at 09:50 PM
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 27, 2003 at 11:35 AM
congrats on your new dynaudio. btw what amp do you use to drive the dynes
i'm driving it with a rotel rb-1080 2-channel amp using a passive 2-channel preamp assembled by tubes-guru hyperaudio! tight and punchy bass is amazingly clean even at loud settings. silk dome tweeters are very forgiving to poorly mastered CDs.
Post by: MeowPao on Jan 29, 2003 at 04:00 PM
congrats on your new dynaudio. btw what amp do you use to drive the dynes
i'm driving it with a rotel rb-1080 2-channel amp using a passive 2-channel preamp assembled by tubes-guru hyperaudio! tight and punchy bass is amazingly clean even at loud settings. silk dome tweeters are very forgiving to poorly mastered CDs.
Nice setup Tuff! :)
Question lang, aside from the body, is the front also black-colored?
Post by: rony on Jan 29, 2003 at 08:13 PM
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Jan 29, 2003 at 08:16 PM
congrats on your new dynaudio. btw what amp do you use to drive the dynes
i'm driving it with a rotel rb-1080 2-channel amp using a passive 2-channel preamp assembled by tubes-guru hyperaudio! tight and punchy bass is amazingly clean even at loud settings. silk dome tweeters are very forgiving to poorly mastered CDs.
Nice setup Tuff! :)
Question lang, aside from the body, is the front also black-colored?
thanks! yup all-black sir meowpao.
Post by: Titanium on Feb 04, 2003 at 09:44 AM
can a yammie 430 drive an audience 42 speaker without problem? My room is approx 5 m x 7 m.
What store sells them cheap? Thanks.
Post by: ariel on Feb 04, 2003 at 10:33 AM
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can a yammie 430 drive an audience 42 speaker without problem? My room is approx 5 m x 7 m.
What store sells them cheap? Thanks.
when i listened to this combination, they sounded thin. i think a bigger amp. will give justice to dynaudio speakers. they are sold by the listening in style stores in megamall, shangrila plaza, festival mall.
Post by: Titanium on Feb 04, 2003 at 11:02 AM
Post by: ariel on Feb 04, 2003 at 11:25 AM
when i said they sounded thin, it doesn't mean that they don't sound good. they sounded good but you can still get more if you have better amps. the best thing to do is to listen for yourself. dynaudio speakers are one of the best around.
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 04, 2003 at 04:48 PM
Question guys,
can a yammie 430 drive an audience 42 speaker without problem? My room is approx 5 m x 7 m.
What store sells them cheap? Thanks.
hi titanium!
like ariel, i also suggest that you audition the yamaha-audience combo at Listening In Style...look for Johan, he's real cool. to get some great advice, i suggest you go directly to JR.
anway, based on my (still) very short (but sweet!) experience with the audience 52, i find that it sounds better when matched with a higher rated amp. however, this does not mean that its not great with more regularly powered receiver. if you listen to light music using a 35 wpc tube amp (e.g. dynaco st-70) or an 60 or 80 wpc solid state receiver amp, the only very obvious difference you get from a 200wpc amp, it seems, is a slightly louder output.
clarity, openness, tightness and warmth is not at all compromised when hooked up to a regular (< 100 wpc) amp. indeed, very few speakers that fall in the $500/pair-and-below price category can offer the quality you get from a pair of 42s without having to use muscle amps.
you may still hear some difference if, for example, you listen to material that's filled with kick drum and upright bass lines using, say, thx-certified amps. dynamic range seems to be wider/deeper too with bigger amps. other than this, i really don't hear nor feel much of a difference.
anyway, that's just me. visit LIS one of these days to find out for yourself.
happy hunting!
Post by: Titanium on Feb 05, 2003 at 09:47 AM
Good point you two, I think I have to hear it first because dynes are on top of my list for speaker upgrade.
Tuff, what branch of listening in style si Johan. I really like to audition yung yammie 430 plus audience 42 or 52 combination.
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 05, 2003 at 03:45 PM
tuff_u_gong / ariel,,
Good point you two, I think I have to hear it first because dynes are on top of my list for speaker upgrade.
Tuff, what branch of listening in style si Johan. I really like to audition yung yammie 430 plus audience 42 or 52 combination.
sa LIS (shangri-la) ko madalas maabutan is Johan (pronounced Yo-han, as in Johanne Sebastian Bach--tama ba spelling?). i suggest you call first before you go para maka-timing ka na di sya gaanong busy.
Post by: MeowPao on Feb 06, 2003 at 12:59 PM
Hi Titanium,
Why don't you also try other models since you'll be there auditioning already? :)
Aside from the Yamaha 430, try the 1300, 2300, and RXZ1 :o, so you can compare.
I Can't remember if they have Denons over at LIS, but you can also try them.
Kung may NAD yan ang try mo! I never had the chance to try this... :)
I suggest you get a mid-end receiver, since the 42s are 86db and 4ohms (compared to the typical 89db/8ohms ng mission m72) baka di kayanin ng entry level receivers.
Post by: Titanium on Feb 06, 2003 at 01:14 PM
Thats exactly my apprehension since I dont have a budget for a receiver upgrade but I really need a set of front speakers for my second set up and instead of buying a soso speaker, I will instead invest in a better speaker ( upgrade ) to replace my m72 fronts and use the m72 for my second set up.. O di naka upgrade ako ;) Im considering m51, audience 42 or any suggested speaker na bookshelves in the range of 15-20 K.
Post by: MeowPao on Feb 06, 2003 at 01:31 PM
meowPao,,
Thats exactly my apprehension since I dont have a budget for a receiver upgrade but I really need a set of front speakers for my second set up and instead of buying a soso speaker, I will instead invest in a better speaker ( upgrade ) to replace my m72 fronts and use the m72 for my second set up.. O di naka upgrade ako ;) Im considering m51, audience 42 or any suggested speaker na bookshelves in the range of 15-20 K.
Hi Titanium,
The best is still for you to go to LIS for an audition. :)
It's not a big problem if you get the 42s...
- don't drive them loud... the amp will heat up quickly, and if you overdo it, baka masira both amp and speaker. Just play them at moderate levels.
- the dynes need a powerful amp to shine (this is why I am urging you to try out the higher model amps so you can hear, not to buy.. para next time you'll have an idea when you need to upgrade your amp).
- pang matagalan yang Dynes na yan :) it is unlikely you'll want to change/upgrade them... someone I know loves his Dynes soo much he's thinking of bringing it wherever he goes, via land, sea, or air (hmm...is he reading this??) ;D
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 07, 2003 at 04:36 AM
Hi Tuff, si Johan ba yung matangkad at payat? :)
on the contrary, johan is short and stocky. very helpful.
Post by: muscleboy on Feb 07, 2003 at 11:43 AM
hmmm.. ako yata tukoy mo a.. hehe.. i'll be bringing my all my dynaudios alright.. doble price sa canada e.. hehe..
maiwan na lahat pwera si misis, clothes, and my dynes..
;D xXx
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 10, 2003 at 02:35 PM
meow,
hmmm.. ako yata tukoy mo a.. hehe.. i'll be bringing my all my dynaudios alright.. doble price sa canada e.. hehe..
maiwan na lahat pwera si misis, clothes, and my dynes..
;D xXx
hi xXx!
kelan ba biyahe , sir? OK na OK nga pala yung stands na pinasa mo sa akin!
anyway, baka magbago pa isip mo, sabihan mo ako kung last minute eh madisisyunan mong ibenta. (...la ba tax yan pag pinasok mo sa canada?)
Post by: notaku on Feb 19, 2003 at 12:22 AM
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Post by: john5479 on Feb 19, 2003 at 12:56 AM
Post by: listener on Feb 19, 2003 at 10:04 AM
Anyone have opinions on how the dynaudio subs fare musically? For example I'm fixed on a sub sat setup and get an dynaudio audience 42 or 52 will it be a good thing to audition them with dynaudio subs?
Here is my take RE: Audience Line
I have been using Dynaudios since the Listening group first carried the line way back 1997 and the first thing that stands out is their outstanding musicality when partnered with the right electronics. The better the amp..the better the performance of the Dynes.
Just recently I experimented with my 6 year old Audience 40 bookshelf and I hooked it up to my Classe CA-1000 power amp (rated at 1 Kilowatt RMS) just to hear the Dynes when powered to the limit. The usual partner of my Audience 40 is a Classe CA350 (350 watts RMS) and it sound very good to my ears na but I just want to hear if these little Dynes can improve on their sound when powered to the limit. I was surprised to hear what the Audience 40 can do when powered by a very,very big amp. super clean ang mid and High and the midbass was astounding given the fact that the speakers are only bookshelves. Close your eyes and the sound will fool you like it was coming from a bigger speaker. The speakers took to abuse that I threw at it in stride...ganun katibay yung Dynes.
Contrary to popular belief...using a big amp sa Dynes (and all other speakers for that matter) will improve all aspects of the presentation...low, mid and high. Mas cleaner din ang presentation since the limiting factor here will be the speakers mechanical capability na e...ruled out na yung distortion coming from having an over driven amp.
Yamaha electronics doesnt do justice to the capability of the Dyns. It doesnt bring out the best of the Dyns period. It just so happened that the Listening group is pushing the Yamaha line also which explains their use of the Yammies as a partner for the Dynes when auditioning...kinda like hitting two birds in one stone kung mabibili pareho right?. Since you will audition the Dynes I suggest you having them (Listening in Style) set up the speakers using seperate electronics ( a seperate amp is a must) ...not the Yamaha receivers that they are pushing in the market. Receivers just doesnt do justice to the Dynes. Its kinda like using the Dynes at around 50% of its capability when used with ANY A/V receiver for that matter. Im sure pwede ka naman nilang pagbigyan with your request. Mababait naman mga staff ni JR. If you can stretch your budget then get the Audience 52 or better yet a speaker from the Contour line. The addition of a sub to augment the bookshelves is a very good idea but audition the speakers without the use of a Subwoofer first so that you can hear the low end limit of the Dynes...not the sub.
Audience 42 or 52? Musically? In my opinion they are the best in their class and pricepoint. Nothing can touch the Audience line in their pricepoint when it comes to sheer musicality. Hell they can even blow away some speakers that cost twice as much. You will be astounded by their capability to deliver the goods specially the Mid and High (again: partner it with good electronics) Money well spent if you ask me.
PS: I am not connected in any way to the Listening group nor to the Dynaudio group.
Post by: MeowPao on Feb 19, 2003 at 10:26 AM
My decision here is, once I get the Dynes, pangmatagalan talaga yan. I can upgrade the electronics anytime without worrying about the speakers (considering that this is the entry level of Dynes). I started with a receiver now, and I might get separates in the near future. :)
I've also closely examined the Contour 1.1 (and 1.3) physically, and I still have to see a flaw in worksmanship. This is one of the most perfectly made things I've seen. Sa gawa pa lang ng cabinet and speakers near perfect na, sa sound pa! :)
Post by: rtsy on Feb 19, 2003 at 10:32 AM
Just recently I experimented with my 6 year old Audience 40 bookshelf and I hooked it up to my Classe CA-1000 power amp (rated at 1 Kilowatt RMS) just to hear the Dynes when powered to the limit. The usual partner of my Audience 40 is a Classe CA350 (350 watts RMS)
I think this combo is more than just sheer raw power driving Dynaudios. Dynaudios and Classe have a magical synergy. I heard this myself when I tried a CAP100 (if I remember correctly) w/ my Audience 40.
JR has some pre-owned Classe's for sale at fairly affordable prices. Check out
http://www.geocities.com/acpsite/buysell.htm
Well, it's not at Rotel/NAD price levels but for what you're getting, it's a fair amount to pay. Check out how Classes are constructed.
I posted listening notes on this Classe integrated at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pinoydiophiles
Lastly, for more audio-oriented discussions, check out http://www.wiredstate.com/pinoydiophiles.
Newbies need not fear. There is a Newbie section there where you are guaranteed not to be treated gently and patiently. Just keep your savings safe. He-he.
Post by: listener on Feb 19, 2003 at 05:01 PM
My decision here is, once I get the Dynes, pangmatagalan talaga yan.
You got that right MeowPao. Ako nga six years ko nang gamit yung Dyna audience 40's ko super happy pa din ako sa performance nya. Its as fresh as I first listened to it six years ago. Hindi nagbago ang performance nya. Value for your money talaga.
Post by: john5479 on Feb 20, 2003 at 12:18 AM
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Feb 20, 2003 at 12:30 PM
read a comment somewhere that the new audience line (42, 52, 62, etc.) sounds boomier than the previous one.
any comments on this? notice any coloration resulting from this boominess?
tuff
Post by: Titanium on Mar 17, 2003 at 09:52 AM
Im still saving for the dyne audience 42, my dream speaker. What is the cheapest receiver or amp (2 channel ) that you can recommend to power the dynes. Im on a tight budget, between 15-20 K lang. Meron kaya kahit secind hand?
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Mar 19, 2003 at 07:24 AM
hey guys,
Im still saving for the dyne audience 42, my dream speaker. What is the cheapest receiver or amp (2 channel ) that you can recommend to power the dynes. Im on a tight budget, between 15-20 K lang. Meron kaya kahit secind hand?
hi titanium!
mukhang matindi tama ng upgrade bug sa'yo ah!
anyway, you might want to check out the post
of xinessys in the assorted buy & sell section. he's
selling a great pair of solid state musical
fidelity monoblocks.
you may want to check out hyperaudio or sonny
tuazon for great second hand stuff too.
i won't recommend the use of a tube amp like
the ST-70, for the dynaudio though.
just my 2 cents.
Post by: Titanium on Mar 19, 2003 at 08:06 AM
matindi nga yata, the more I read about it the more I want to have it :o Para gumaan ang loob ko, I just thnk that this upgrade is for audio set up naman. Anyway, I was really aspiring for a tube amp pero if its not advisable, then Ill look for a ss power amp or receiver na mataas ang power, am I right ?
Post by: arnoldc on Mar 19, 2003 at 09:29 AM
in my specific requirement, i had to think twice about the dyns, because i will be limited and would require me to upgrade my existing solid state amp also at 70wpc.
what i learned is that i made a right decision in going for an 89dB speaker. it is easier to drive, and is tube friendly (impedance is quite stable at different FR) as it works well on my 40wpc ultra-linear push pull amplifier as well as my DIY 2A3 single-ended amplifier at 3wpc.
had i gone to the audience 52, i would probably had upgraded the solid state amp to a more powerful one, i won't be able to use tube gear and miss out on the musicality of tubes, or i'll be selling the 52.
i am not trying to influence your decisions or biases, i am just merely citing my observations coming from the other side of the fence. undeniably, higher sensitivity speakers (not all) have their own merits.
IME, YMMV
Post by: Titanium on Mar 19, 2003 at 10:03 AM
You have a good point and will keep me really thinking. Can you pls PM me what speaker(s) youve finally bought and what receiver are you using... just for reference while Im still hunting for budget ;)
Post by: rtsy on Mar 19, 2003 at 08:19 PM
Anyone have opinions on how the dynaudio subs fare musically? For example I'm fixed on a sub sat setup and get an dynaudio audience 42 or 52 will it be a good thing to audition them with dynaudio subs?
Good choice on the Audience 42/52.
I would however think twice about Dynaudio subs. While they mate well with the Dyns (I've heard the small and bigger sub, don't remember models as this was 2 years ago), they are quite pricey for the performance at hand.
I'm not bashing Dynaudio. I in fact have the Audience all round my HT. I'm just sharing my opinion about their subs.
One of the key qualities of a great sub is it's ability to mate w/ most speakers (bookshelves or floorstanders) and truly extend the bottom end. One such sub are REL's (the Quake is slightly cheaper pa than entry level Dyns yata).
And do take time on the sub. One of the strengths of Dynaudio's is it's size-belying midbass and bass regions. Don't jump into a sub just so model xxx is what you can afford today. Wait till you can get a really good sub. If you must spend your money now, buy CDs!
Post by: rtsy on Mar 19, 2003 at 08:28 PM
Im still saving for the dyne audience 42, my dream speaker. What is the cheapest receiver or amp (2 channel ) that you can recommend to power the dynes. Im on a tight budget, between 15-20 K lang. Meron kaya kahit secind hand?
I think that in driving Dynaudios, more important than sheer watts per channel is the amp's ability to handle 4ohm loads.
I use my Dynaudios w/ a 40 or 50wpc NAD T760 and have found no complaints watching action flicks at reference volume levels. I even set my receiver to drive the speakers full range! I'm not an equipment masochist, I just like how it sounds that way.
I haven't heard Rotel-Dyn but when I was buying my HT before, JR was pretty confident w/ the 5 channel Rotel amp driving Dyn Audience 40's. Dyn-Musical Fidelity is a well-documented synergy. So is Dyn-Classe.
One thing that's common among Rotel, MF, Classe, NAD is that these are quite the anti-thesis of the sonic character of amps like Pioneer and Yamaha (haven't heard their latest and greatest). The former tend to be warmer, lusher with some sacrifice on the top end. The latter tend to be airy and detailed with some sacrifice on the body and sonic weight.
This said, Onkyo, Marantz, and Harman/Kardon w/c are on the warm, full-bodied side should be worth a listen w/ Dyns.
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Mar 31, 2003 at 12:43 AM
thanks tuff,
matindi nga yata, the more I read about it the more I want to have it :o Para gumaan ang loob ko, I just thnk that this upgrade is for audio set up naman. Anyway, I was really aspiring for a tube amp pero if its not advisable, then Ill look for a ss power amp or receiver na mataas ang power, am I right ?
actually, dynaudio combined with a good
solid state amp is good if you like very
punchy, sparkly, clean sounding system.
i like it for vocals, bossa nova, even
rock music. for jazz, medyo kulang sa depth.
if you like real jazz music (coltrane, ellington, basie,
marsalis, bill evans, etc.) you may want to get high efficiency speakers and combine them with a vintage tube integrated amp. they also sound great for vocals but with an altogether different approach in sound.
you're more likely to spend less on the
second option.
i suggest that you try these two routes first
before deciding to buy a pair of audience speakers.
Post by: tuff_u_gong on Aug 18, 2003 at 03:26 PM
When I put together my Home Theater system, I literally auditioned everything in the market: Paradigm, Definitive Technology, ProAc at Audio Den, Acoustic Energy,Sonus Faber, NHT, and PSB at Upscale, Energy, Dunlavy, Revel, at Audio Visual Driver, B&W and Mission at Sights & Sounds, etc., etc., etc.
After round 1, the Dynaudio Audience series came out on top.
In a National Geo or Discovery Channel documentary, they featured once a study made by various scientists where quantitatively, they linked what people perceive as beauty as an average of all the available options, e.g., what people consider to be a beautiful face is a nose that is the average of many different noses found on humans, ditto for eyes, cheeks, etc. What has this got to do with Dynaudio's?
In one word, balance. Dyns get that right. No one feature stands out like bass (w/c is stupendous for the size), the midrange (which is invovlving) or the treble (smooth, smooth highs). The Dyns shine in all these aspects.
So I went on round 2 of my speaker selection process where deliberately, I compared the Dynaudio to speakers far more expensive than the Audience line. The Dunlavy was a good 3 times the price, B&W's CDM (SE pa lang noon, hindi pa umaabot dito ang NT) series was a good 2 times the price. All that did was establish the Dynaudios as stonking value for money.
Check out http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pinoydiophiles. Lots of Dynaudio users there (also Sonus Faber, couple of B&Ws and Martin Logans, etc.), including one with the Contour 1.3SE! I'm sure you'll get more info there.
i'm reposting this for those who are too shy to audition dynaudio speakers
Post by: nephilim on Dec 15, 2003 at 05:44 PM
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 15, 2003 at 11:17 PM
Hello there. I was just wondering what cables (interconnects) you guys use to match with your Dynes?
Interconnects - ArnoldC's DIY cables with Eichman bullet plugs
Speaker wires - Ixos 6007 (maybe changed also if i find a better pair)
Post by: nephilim on Dec 16, 2003 at 10:38 AM
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 16, 2003 at 02:46 PM
thanks iceman90a. Been trying to narrow down my choices, but as is the usual case ... still confused.
just curious - what speakers do you have? and what amp/receiver are you using?
:D
Post by: nephilim on Dec 16, 2003 at 03:38 PM
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 16, 2003 at 04:20 PM
your setup is way out of my league, my audience 52's pale in comparison with the contours :-[
really dont think i can add more to your knowledge of audio, best leave the suggestions to others
one thing i noticed is that my audience respond to changes in speaker gauge (when the same material of course is used) dont know how the audience speaker wires will sound with them though...
Post by: nephilim on Dec 16, 2003 at 04:44 PM
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 16, 2003 at 04:54 PM
Thanks iceman. The way my room is set up, I have a long way to go. I've actually sacrificed the home theater set-up, end. I still am for integrating good 2 channel with a 5.1 channel setup. Para naman walang masabi yung misis ko, di ba. ;D For my center, I cheated and got the Audience 42 center. I figured, my wife won't notice the difference ... and so far she hasn't. ;) At this point, I'm now more concerned with my 2 channel set up. I still have several weak links in the chain which need to be addressed.
we're in the same boat - my wife stopped watching dvd's when i sold my previous ht set-up and went to 2 channel + sub ;D
now she's happy again with our new 5.1 set-up and indulges me in my foray into 2 channel audio ;)
Post by: mYKi on Aug 08, 2004 at 01:57 PM
Pwede bang mag-apply sa Dynaudio fans club? :-)
I finally upgraded my well-loved B&W 601's to Audience 42's. I'm very happy with my decision. Since I have a small living room, I decided to go with the Audience 42 rather than the 52. My speakers are less than 2 feet from the back wall and just a foot from the side walls. If I got the 52s, I'm sure it would make the bass muddy.
I love these speakers! Also, the new real wood finishes are outstanding. Sobrang gwapo ang real wood because of the grain.
My speakers are 1 week old already and I really like what I'm hearing. Even my neglected CDs before, like Sarah McLachlan Mirrorball live, sounds great now. When I bought it before, I didn't enjoy it much and I just stored it away. But now, even not-so-well-recorded CDs sound good.
These speakers are very detailed, but it's not bright or tiring to listen to. The sound of cymbals and percussions truly stand out and as real as can be.
Maybe a few years from now I could upgrade to the Contour S1.4. ;D
Post by: nephilim on Aug 09, 2004 at 10:02 AM
I also saw on the other thread you're thinking of getting a power amp? I'm actually selling a Rotel in the buy and sell section. Check it out if you're interested.
Post by: mYKi on Aug 09, 2004 at 07:18 PM
How much are you selling the Rotel RMB 1066? Please PM me. What speakers are you using for this? Also, I'm assuming that you have larger main amps. What kind is it?
Thanks in advance.
Myki
Post by: nephilim on Aug 10, 2004 at 09:24 AM
Post by: mYKi on Oct 18, 2004 at 04:38 PM
Do you have recommendations for speaker wires and interconnects that is a perfect match for Dynaudio Audience 52?
Right now, I'm still using my IXOS 6003 and I like the way it produces the details. I tried Transparent but it robbed me of the details that I enjoyed. I'm sure the Transparent would have been perfect with my B&Ws though.
For interconnects, I'm using IXOS 104 and mukhang okay naman siya. I've also tried QED Qunex 1 but it sounded similar to the IXOS. I also tried XLO Twinax and again, it still sounded the same. I guess all entry-level ICs sound the same.
I really want to bring out the best in these Dyns and any "trade secret" you can share will be much appreciated.
By the way, I enjoy my music warm but still lively. So far, the NAD C352 cd player together with the Audience 52 produced great results for me.
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 18, 2004 at 05:59 PM
you really need juice to get that woofer moving, but when it does... Aaahhh! ;D
Post by: mYKi on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:11 AM
I'm using a Marantz SR5500 as a pre/pro and it's connected to a Rotel RMB-1075 amp (125W x 5). The Rotel gives out more power with 2-channels only. I would have to say tumaas balahibo ko when I connected my RMB-1075. Ibang klase pala ang Dyns with high amplification. I already thought it sounded great with my old SR7200, pero with an outboard amp, ibang klase na siya.
Ang problema ko ngayon are my interconnects between my SR5500 and the RMB-1075. I used cheap Acoustic Research during the first week. Tapos trip lang, I exchanged the fronts with an IXOS 104. WOW! Ang laki ng difference. So problem ko ngayon, the center sounds thin compared to the left and right. Hindi balanced yung sound with DVD movies.
Soooooo, I have to buy 3 pairs of new interconnects. I'm looking for second hand IXOS 104 para dalawa na lang bibilihin ko kaso I'm not so lucky in searching for one.
Ok na kaya ang XLO Twinax which I can buy locally?
Myki
What amp are you using? I had a Fase Integrated amp before, 70 watts x 2 and enjoyed decent sound. But I didnt hear my 52's maxed out until I switched to a Hafler XL280 @ 145 watts/channel
you really need juice to get that woofer moving, but when it does... Aaahhh! ;D
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 19, 2004 at 09:36 AM
I would have to say tumaas balahibo ko when I connected my RMB-1075. Ibang klase pala ang Dyns with high amplification. I already thought it sounded great with my old SR7200, pero with an outboard amp, ibang klase na siya.
Agree! galing no? lalim ng soundstage tsaka ramdam mo yung bass (bookshelf yan ha)
Ok na kaya ang XLO Twinax which I can buy locally?
Myki
XLO Twinax are great value for money, ganda ng mids at balanse ang bass at highs, i have a pair that i use to connect my tube preamp and tube amp :)
pero if you want to splurge a little (para sa iyo naman yan di ba?) ask Mike (Xinesyss) if he can lend you Analysis Plus IC's for evaluation ;)
Post by: mYKi on Oct 19, 2004 at 01:36 PM
XLO Twinax are great value for money, ganda ng mids at balanse ang bass at highs, i have a pair that i use to connect my tube preamp and tube amp :)
pero if you want to splurge a little (para sa iyo naman yan di ba?) ask Mike (Xinesyss) if he can lend you Analysis Plus IC's for evaluation ;)
Yes. Ibang klase si Mike of Toyz for the Big Boyz. I bought my 1075 from him as well as a Monitor Audio B2 and NAD C320BEE for a coffee shop that we will open soon. He lent me an XLO Twinax and I was quite happy with it already. Nothing great, but it was ok.
Pareng Iceman, kung ikaw... would you go for the Analysis Plus Oval One rather than the XLO Twinax? Malayo ba ang tunog?
I could buy 5 pairs of XLO Twinax kaagad.... or 2 pairs of Analysis Plus per month. :-) So after 3 months, kumpleto na rin ang Analysis Plus. Hay naku! Hirap talaga kung may budget na dapat sundin.
Post by: nephilim on Oct 19, 2004 at 03:28 PM
Congratulations, I only noticed now that you got the A52s. How are they compared to the A42s? How much is a brand new 52 nowadays anyway?
Post by: mYKi on Oct 19, 2004 at 04:32 PM
Yes, I asked JR to upgrade my 42s to 52s and I only paid the difference.
I liked the 52s better since the mids were a lot meatier. Voices are more tonally accurate with the 52s. The bass goes slightly lower as well. The highs were exactly the same. Cymbals still sound eeringly real.
When using a receiver, imaging was better with the 42s. With the 52's, I had to find the perfect speaker placement and toe-in to get the perfect well-centered image. With the 42s, it imaged easier. But when I got the Rotel RMB-1075, even the 52s could easily image well like the 42s.
I'm willing to make a bet with anyone, P20,000! That I will not be upgrading my 52s for a looooong time. I would say at least 3 years.
I got the real-wood veneer version of the 52s for P39k+. Those who bought last year were truly lucky. The 42s are around P32k.
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 19, 2004 at 06:04 PM
Pareng Iceman, kung ikaw... would you go for the Analysis Plus Oval One rather than the XLO Twinax? Malayo ba ang tunog?
that's a hard question to answer... borrow both and let us know which one you liked ;D
nme drop mo ako (vince) para magka discount ako... este ikaw pala ;D
Post by: mYKi on Oct 20, 2004 at 09:06 AM
I borrowed both and I would have to say that the XLO Twinax sounded similar to my IXOS 104 (XHA203). Both had good bass, good highs (although the IXOS was a bit better), and good midrange.
When I plugged the AP Oval One, I was hoping that it would also sound the same... but it didn't. The voice of Stacey Kent lost the sibilance I was accustomed to. It became natural. What impressed me was the sound of the piano with the AP Oval One. It was definitely better than either the Twinax or my IXOS 104.
I will try out my friend's Transparent Link 200 (the one that I sold to him!) and compare that one as well.
that's a hard question to answer... borrow both and let us know which one you liked ;D
nme drop mo ako (vince) para magka discount ako... este ikaw pala ;D
Post by: synchro on Oct 21, 2004 at 03:34 PM
after a long hiatus from the Dynaudio sound (1.5 years ago...Audience 42), I recently got a chance to purchase a pre-owned Audience 50 in very mint condition. Paired it with my Classe CA-100 (200 watts RMS X 2 @4 ohms) and now im wondering why I let go of my A42 and took a leave from the Dynaudio sound. I have never heard of anything that can rival the sound of an A50 given the same price point. im pretty confident that the A40,A42,A50, A52 and A52SE will even beat the hell out of speakers costing so much more. Question lang bro....why did you sell your A52's? is it because you went for the tube amp route?
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 21, 2004 at 05:01 PM
vince,
after a long hiatus from the Dynaudio sound (1.5 years ago...Audience 42), I recently got a chance to purchase a pre-owned Audience 50 in very mint condition. Paired it with my Classe CA-100 (200 watts RMS X 2 @4 ohms) and now im wondering why I let go of my A42 and took a leave from the Dynaudio sound. I have never heard of anything that can rival the sound of an A50 given the same price point. im pretty confident that the A40,A42,A50, A52 and A52SE will even beat the hell out of speakers costing so much more. Question lang bro....why did you sell your A52's? is it because you went for the tube amp route?
Yup! i fell for the magic of tubes :) actually the dynes were sacrificed for a cd player upgrade - so i can honestly say, di ko sila pinagpalit sa ibang speakers ;D
Uy ikaw ba nakakuha nung kay Bensan? grabe good price yun! ;D padinig naman minsan :)
may alam pa ako makukunan ulit ng Audience 50 - pero di ko share, reserved na sakin yun in case magka amp ulit ako na kayang i-drive :-X ;D
Post by: synchro on Oct 21, 2004 at 10:01 PM
Uy ikaw ba nakakuha nung kay Bensan? grabe good price yun! ;D padinig naman minsan :)
sure thing bro. text ka lang pag nasa area ka. pag naayos yung isa naming set up yun papadinig ko sa iyo. Yes the Dynes that I got was from Mr. Ben Santos. He gave it to me at a very good price with stands to boot.
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may alam pa ako makukunan ulit ng Audience 50 - pero di ko share, reserved na sakin yun in case magka amp ulit ako na kayang i-drive :-X ;D
hehe...cant blame you bro. for keeps talaga itong mga speakers na ito. If they only came out with 8 ohm/90db variants e di everybody happy O0
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 21, 2004 at 10:07 PM
sure thing bro. text ka lang pag nasa area ka. pag naayos yung isa naming set up yun papadinig ko sa iyo. Yes the Dynes that I got was from Mr. Ben Santos. He gave it to me at a very good price with stands to boot.
Thanks! I'll take you up on that ;D
hehe...cant blame you bro. for keeps talaga itong mga speakers na ito. If they only came out with 8 ohm/90db variants e di everybody happy O0
sigh... cant have it all... :(
Post by: mYKi on Oct 22, 2004 at 06:33 AM
Synchro, sobrang good deal ka doon sa A50. Congrats on your purchase.
Thanks! I'll take you up on that ;D
sigh... cant have it all... :(
Post by: synchro on Oct 22, 2004 at 09:04 AM
Pwede ba ako magpa-imbita diyan? :) I've heard so many nice things about Dynaudio and Classe combinations and I certainly would like to listen to what some forums rave about.
Synchro, sobrang good deal ka doon sa A50. Congrats on your purchase.
Hi myki. sige bro. it seems that tayong 3 lang ni ice ang andito sa thread na ito..sana dumami pa mga Dynaudio fans. PM me your contact numbers and lets see if our schedules jive para makakuha din ako ng different opinion sa present set up ko.
yup Mr. Ben santos gave me an early Christmas gift ;D.
Post by: mYKi on Oct 26, 2004 at 08:57 AM
Wharfedale? One of the first British-made speakers in history. Pwede....
B&W? Probably the most popular British-made speakers. Malamang!
Spendor? The BBC's British-made speaker for a very, very loooooong time. Pwede rin!
Monitor Audio? Another fine British-made speaker.
The ANSWER: Dynaudio!
Usually the Brits promote or endorse their own... but not this time. :)
Read the full article here: http://www.audiocourses.com/article540.html
Post by: synchro on Oct 26, 2004 at 04:25 PM
maybe because BBC knows for a fact that Dynaudio can kick the living crap out of those brands and send them to kingdom come to boot hehehe....peace y'all j/k ;D
BTW...il get my hands on a pair of Contour bookshelves this coming weekend. let you know how the A50's stack up against their bigger and better brothers.
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 26, 2004 at 04:32 PM
A BIT OF TRIVIA: What did BBC, the British media mogul, choose as its official monitor speaker for all its new recording studios?
Wharfedale? One of the first British-made speakers in history. Pwede....
B&W? Probably the most popular British-made speakers. Malamang!
Spendor? The BBC's British-made speaker for a very, very loooooong time. Pwede rin!
Monitor Audio? Another fine British-made speaker.
The ANSWER: Dynaudio!
Usually the Brits promote or endorse their own... but not this time. :)
Read the full article here: http://www.audiocourses.com/article540.html
Is this AIR series available locally?
Malaking sales promo nagagawa nito for Dynaudio. ;D
Post by: mYKi on Oct 27, 2004 at 03:31 PM
For home use, doon papasok ang Audience, Contour, etc.
But the technology used is basically the same.
Is this AIR series available locally?
Malaking sales promo nagagawa nito for Dynaudio. ;D
Post by: nephilim on Oct 28, 2004 at 05:03 PM
Guys, you aren't the only three active in the thread. :) I do check up once in a while. Not as religous in logging on to pinoyDVD kasi. ;)
Post by: mYKi on Oct 29, 2004 at 09:50 AM
By the way, I compiled a list of Dynaudio reviews (yung mga entry-level bookshelves lang) when I was contemplating on switching from B&W. I posted it in a new thread so the others can appreciate it. The link is here: http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=29993.0
If you have other Dynaudio reviews, PM them to me so I can add it to the list.
Post by: mYKi on Oct 29, 2004 at 10:01 AM
I just got my Analysis Plus Oval One's yesterday kila Mike. 1 pair lang kinuha ko since yung ibang pairs nila eh slightly used looking. They also have a pre-owned one pero mas gusto ko sana kung sealed and new. Mike told me that I could just buy sa Audio Fair sa Nov. 7 para brand new ang makuha ko. I don't know why but I get a kick out of smelling new gear. Unang ginawa ko is to smell the cables! hahahaha
It was actually my 8th wedding anniversary yesterday as well. So yung cables, regalo ko sa sarili ko, and I had to get my wife a gift as well para hindi mag-selos. :)
Ayun! I'm really happy with the way things sound now. Wala pa akong CD player pero I think I can live without one for quite some time. Unless I could get a NAD C542 in silver, then malamang kukunin ko na kaagad iyon.
I can certainly say, that this is the best my system has sounded since I started in this hobby 3 years ago.
Post by: synchro on Oct 29, 2004 at 11:13 AM
uy madami din naman pala tayo dito na mga Dyn fans. Do you still have the Contour 1.8's? if yes how do you rate their performance after using them long term?
mYKi
I also noticed that Dynes are very "maselan" sa interconnects and speaker cable. Am currently using Van Den Hul interconnects and Van Den Hul Clearwater speaker cables foe my A50's. been contemplating on changing the speaker cables this Christmas since they are kinda old already and have small traces of oxidation na.
BTW Happy Anniversary dude ;D
Post by: mYKi on Oct 29, 2004 at 01:49 PM
I also noticed that Dynes are very "maselan" sa interconnects and speaker cable. Am currently using Van Den Hul interconnects and Van Den Hul Clearwater speaker cables foe my A50's. been contemplating on changing the speaker cables this Christmas since they are kinda old already and have small traces of oxidation na.
BTW Happy Anniversary dude ;D
Yes. I agree. I guess it's because these speakers are very revealing. With my previous speakers, I tried various interconnects and speaker cables and I didn't notice much difference when changing. With the Dyns, you can really squeeze out the juice using different tweaks.
I suggest you visit Toyz for the Big Boyz and do a home audition on their AP cables. They have pre-owned ones that Mike is selling cheaply. Comment ko lang is if you are finicky and you want sealed cables, eh malamang some of there cables have been used already by auditioners like us. :)
Tnx for the greetings!
Post by: iceman90a on Oct 29, 2004 at 02:02 PM
It was actually my 8th wedding anniversary yesterday as well. So yung cables, regalo ko sa sarili ko, and I had to get my wife a gift as well para hindi mag-selos. :)
Ahhh... one of the hidden costs of the Audio hobby ;D ;D
Happy Anniversary Dude! :)
Post by: av_phile1 on Oct 29, 2004 at 02:17 PM
Post by: nephilim on Oct 29, 2004 at 02:25 PM
synchro, I still do have the 1.8s. I am more than happy with these speakers so I have no plans of changing them anytime soon. Rate them? Uhhhh 5 starts? ;D I'm actually also auditioning a pair of 1.1s right now. Sonic signature of the 1.1s are similar to the 1.8s. Of course not as good though. Looking at these bookshelves, they don't really look like mini-monitors, especially after seeing the depth of the box.
I'm currently using the Audience cables I got from The Archi Aud guys. I've heard the AP cables as well on a Contour S3.4 and they also kicked a*s. I fell in love with the Audience cable after auditioning them though. In my opinion, they are a bit on the analytical side, in an inconspicuous kind of way. Just the way I like my music (for now at least).
Post by: synchro on Oct 29, 2004 at 04:04 PM
Thanks for the tips re: cables. I might drop by their shop (AA and Toyz) when I have the budget for it na. Most probably by Christmas time na yun hehe. BTW im on the lookout for a pair Audience 40 and Audience center na second hand. baka may alam kayo na tama ang price let me know.
Post by: nephilim on Oct 29, 2004 at 04:21 PM
Will do. Have a good weekend guys. Happy Halloween!
Post by: mYKi on Oct 30, 2004 at 07:43 AM
mYKi and nephilim
Thanks for the tips re: cables. I might drop by their shop (AA and Toyz) when I have the budget for it na. Most probably by Christmas time na yun hehe. BTW im on the lookout for a pair Audience 40 and Audience center na second hand. baka may alam kayo na tama ang price let me know.
Xinesyss has a black Audience 42 that he is selling for P17k. I saw it and it is in good condition. I also saw someone selling an Audience 42C (black) at the Buy & Sell section.
Post by: synchro on Nov 05, 2004 at 10:30 PM
bro are you using your Dynes for HT? if yes may I know what center channel are you using? BTW bro shielded ba yung Audience 42? thanks
Post by: mYKi on Nov 06, 2004 at 07:55 AM
mYKi
bro are you using your Dynes for HT? if yes may I know what center channel are you using? BTW bro shielded ba yung Audience 42? thanks
Yes. I only have 1 system for HT and Audio kasi. I'm using the Audience 42C as center and it's on top of my TV. I think only the 42C is shielded. My previous B&W LCR60S3 was a lot bigger and heavier than the 42C but the sound of the latter is much better. The sound is more coherent (or integrated) and is fuller.
Siguro you're thinking of getting the used Audience 42 and use it as your Center and Center Surround noh? :)
Post by: synchro on Nov 06, 2004 at 12:53 PM
Siguro you're thinking of getting the used Audience 42 and use it as your Center and Center Surround noh? :)
you read my mind bro ;). Using an A42 as a center channel yes, but no for the rear center set up since im quite satisfied with my 5.1 system and i feel that given the size of my room the benefits of a rear center would be minimal at best. I am presently using the A50's in my stereo set up. I myself am using a B&W center right now and im kinda tinkering with the idea to go for the whole Audience system in my HT system. if funds will allow I would like sana to use a pair of A42's for the surround and another pair of A42's for the center wired to present an 8 ohm load to my power amp. Minnie (listening room) gave me quote of Php21.5T for the A42C (less 10 and less 10 pa daw kasi sale) which will amount to a price thats kinda near to the price of a pair of used A42's. It might not be aesthetically pleasing to the eyes but im thinking that the performance of a pair of A42's as center would far surpass the performance of a single A42C both in terms of dynamics and bass capability. il just have to get a custom built center stand to accomodate the pair and situate it under the monitor. what do you think bro? any suggestions?
pahabol...just tested my A50's and it seems shielded sya. I hope the A42's are shielded also.
Post by: mYKi on Nov 07, 2004 at 10:33 AM
1) Splurge and get the 122C as center
2) Mag-ipon ka muna
3) Then get audience 42 for surrounds. I'm sure baka makakuha ka pa ng second hand Audience 40 na mura.
I'm not sure how two 42s will sound for the center. There is a chance that the sound will not seem coherent. This is the reason why center speakers usually have 1 tweeter only. Two tweeters will seem to make the sound come from 2 sources.
Only the 42C, 122C, and 122 are shielded according to my magazine buyer's guide.
Bakit ang mura ng price ngayon? I bought my Audience 42 mga P31k yata. I know mas mura kung vinyl pero by around 10% lang dapat. Are you sure about your price?
you read my mind bro ;). Using an A42 as a center channel yes, but no for the rear center set up since im quite satisfied with my 5.1 system and i feel that given the size of my room the benefits of a rear center would be minimal at best. I am presently using the A50's in my stereo set up. I myself am using a B&W center right now and im kinda tinkering with the idea to go for the whole Audience system in my HT system. if funds will allow I would like sana to use a pair of A42's for the surround and another pair of A42's for the center wired to present an 8 ohm load to my power amp. Minnie (listening room) gave me quote of Php21.5T for the A42C (less 10 and less 10 pa daw kasi sale) which will amount to a price thats kinda near to the price of a pair of used A42's. It might not be aesthetically pleasing to the eyes but im thinking that the performance of a pair of A42's as center would far surpass the performance of a single A42C both in terms of dynamics and bass capability. il just have to get a custom built center stand to accomodate the pair and situate it under the monitor. what do you think bro? any suggestions?
pahabol...just tested my A50's and it seems shielded sya. I hope the A42's are shielded also.
Post by: mYKi on Nov 07, 2004 at 10:38 AM
Now that is what I call a good promo!!!
Kakainis eh Smart na ako ngayon. :)
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 07, 2004 at 10:58 AM
get the 42 now, then transfer them to surrounds when you get a center (or another pair of 42's) :)
Post by: synchro on Nov 07, 2004 at 03:19 PM
Bakit ang mura ng price ngayon? I bought my Audience 42 mga P31k yata. I know mas mura kung vinyl pero by around 10% lang dapat. Are you sure about your price?
mYKi
The quote that I got from Minnie was for an Audience 42C center...not for an A42 bookshelf. Sale daw sila kaya ganun plus laki ng discount namin sa kanila since long time customer na kami sa shop ni JR. dude the 122C is kinda overkill for my needs (and my budget too :(). Bahala na bro. update ko na lang kayo kung ano naging decision ko. center or surround? hmm....hirap talaga ng maliit ang budget hehe.
Vince
bro thanks for the suggestion and additional info re: A42. baka nga ganun ang route ko. (a42 first then a42C next).
Post by: muscleboy on Nov 07, 2004 at 04:14 PM
;D xXx
Post by: mYKi on Nov 08, 2004 at 08:12 AM
By the way, did anyone go to the Audio Fair at Mandarin Hotel? I was truly amazed at the Dynaudio Confidence C4. Pinapalakpakan yung speakers ng mga watchers. Grabe! Kaso P600,000 lang naman isang pair!!! :o
Oh well, ok na sa aking na paminsan-minsan, nakakarining ako ng mga ganoon.
You guys in the Philippines are lucky. Believe it or not, Dynaudio speakers here in Toronto are worth 3x as much. That's the reason why I brought mine here (A60, A40, C120) even if I have to pay for the shipping, otherwise I could never afford it here.
;D xXx
Post by: synchro on Nov 08, 2004 at 11:58 PM
heard that model sing out loud in LIS Shang....its like hearing the angels sing 8). I refused to listen to it again coz I know when I get home my puny Audience speakers will suddenly sound like crap to my ears.
BTW got the A42C na. I hope Santa gives me a pair of A42's for my rears... ::)
Post by: mYKi on Nov 09, 2004 at 06:31 AM
mYKi
heard that model sing out loud in LIS Shang....its like hearing the angels sing 8). I refused to listen to it again coz I know when I get home my puny Audience speakers will suddenly sound like crap to my ears.
BTW got the A42C na. I hope Santa gives me a pair of A42's for my rears... ::)
That's funny. When I got home... feeling ko hindi malayo ang tunog ng Audience ko. ;D
Pero tip lang pare.... I stopped believing in Santa when I was in high school. So don't get your hopes up too high if you don't get it through him. :)
Congrats on your A42C. If you plan to put it on top of your TV, I recommend angling the speaker towards the listening position. I use door stops and it works fine.
Post by: MeowPao on Nov 13, 2004 at 03:53 PM
Haaay, now they come up with pure wood instead of vinyl only....waahh! I should have waited! :P
Guys, how much again for the 42c that's vinyl covered? Thanks! :)
Anyone inquired about the new Dyne Subwoofers?
Post by: ozzie on Dec 18, 2004 at 08:23 AM
when i listen to new wave & pop music, its like listening to floorstanders in my room.
i have not tried them with tubes yet only ss (marantz & rotel). will post some of my comments on tubes+audience 52 during xmas break.
am looking for 2nd hand contour 1.3 mkIII for upgrade next year.
Post by: mYKi on Dec 20, 2004 at 04:05 PM
We have the same combination, Audience 52 + Marantz + Rotel.
I would surely like to know how it will sound with tubes. However, Iceman said that Dyns need a lot of current so tubes will not make the Dyns sound good. According to him, it sounded like a transitorized radio.
Post by: obey on Dec 21, 2004 at 01:40 AM
Post by: iceman90a on Dec 21, 2004 at 08:49 AM
Hi ozzie,
We have the same combination, Audience 52 + Marantz + Rotel.
I would surely like to know how it will sound with tubes. However, Iceman said that Dyns need a lot of current so tubes will not make the Dyns sound good. According to him, it sounded like a transitorized radio.
depende sa tube amp :) on a 2a3 - tunog transistor radio, a Scott 299d makes it sing (at reasonably moderate volumes), with a Hurricane PP amp - it Rocks! ;D ;D
Post by: nephilim on Jan 02, 2005 at 12:16 AM
I was just wondering if anyone is in the market for an upgrade. Yup, you heard right. I'm going to be selling what I thought I wouldn't sell in at least a couple of years. I figured, I'd let you guys in this thread know ahead of time before I post the items in the Buy & Sell side. You guys being Dyn fans and all. Reason for selling, the usual ... upgraditis.
Units are:
Contour 1.8 mk II (in rosewood)
Audience 42C (in rosewood)
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 02, 2005 at 10:30 AM
(http://www.dynaudiousa.com/products/photo/cont/18.jpg)
Post by: nephilim on Jan 03, 2005 at 12:21 PM
Yup. Mine has a tan line though, grills are always on kasi. :D
Post by: bodin on Jan 14, 2005 at 12:35 PM
Thanks
Post by: bodin on Jan 15, 2005 at 05:07 PM
Thanks
Post by: nephilim on Jan 17, 2005 at 03:37 PM
Post by: rony on Jan 17, 2005 at 08:24 PM
Post by: bodin on Jan 17, 2005 at 09:35 PM
Im sure audience 60 is very far from my budget. Marahil hanggang panaginip na lang yan.
Post by: rony on Jan 18, 2005 at 08:40 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 10:38 AM
My friend is going to buy a new Harman Kardon AVR for his dynaudio audience 72. Does HK match with dyns?
My friend is more into the HK for the looks. We both bought this 1080i DVD player in HongKong with a blue lit tray, bagay na bagay sa HK with its blue lit knobs & stuff. So now he wants a matching HK avr.
He is also planning to get a tube amp for his spare audience 42, any recommendations? (low budget lang)
TIA :D.
Post by: iceman90a on Apr 27, 2005 at 11:55 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Apr 27, 2005 at 12:29 PM
what model is he looking at? the Dynes are happy with a lot of power, so to do them justice - he should consider at least the 430 :)
No particular model yet as of now, he is flying to Canada today and will be back after 20 days so I thought I would check out the HK-Dyn compatibility here in pdvd for him.
Wow, the AVR 430 is at 55k according to a brochure from Acoustical space. I am sure my friend can afford it, but I just dont know if he is willing to shell out that much... :).
Thanks Iceman :),
So its a match, but AVR 430 is recommended right? How about a lower model + separate amps?
Post by: iceman90a on Apr 27, 2005 at 04:46 PM
Post by: Lucky7 on Jun 20, 2005 at 09:56 AM
What is the sound characteristics of this speaker? forward ba?neutral or laidback sounding? Balak ko kasi imatch with Nad or Arcam receiver medyo mahal kasi yung Rotel.Nad ba? or Arcam?Please help!
Thanks
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 20, 2005 at 12:53 PM
Mga Dyns owners,
What is the sound characteristics of this speaker? forward ba?neutral or laidback sounding? Balak ko kasi imatch with Nad or Arcam receiver medyo mahal kasi yung Rotel.Nad ba? or Arcam?Please help!
Thanks
One thing that I can say with the Dyns is that they are "honest" sounding speakers. partner them with good electronics and play a good recording im quite sure that the dynes will sing effortlessly and with stunning resolution and transparency to boot. They are particularly revealing of their partnering equipment. The NAD, Arcam and Rotel receivers that you mentioned have enough power to drive the Dynes into respectable volume levels but to hear the Dyns in their utmost best you have to partner them with a very big and clean sounding amp (at least 150 watts RMS per channel IMO). Try them out first and see if you like the combi of a NAD/Dyn or an Arcam/Dyn.
Post by: Lucky7 on Jul 08, 2005 at 12:41 PM
I listened to the Arcam/Dyns and Nad/Dyns combo and I liked the Arcam better. More detail and open ang sound with NAD the sound is very warm and less detail at parang compress parang may nakaharang na blanket.Sa Arcam parang tinanggal mo ang blanket. Any speaker wire recommendation for the Audience 52/Arcam combo?
Thanks
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 08, 2005 at 04:21 PM
http://www.vandenhul.com/cable/rvlutn-h.htm
at present I am using Van Den Hul The Revolution speaker cables. It seems to be a good match for my application (Audience 50/Classe Amp). Inner detail was more evident and the bass improved tremendously. prior to the Revolution model, I was using Van Den Hul The Clearwater speaker cables when my Audience 50 was being powered by an Adcom amp. The Clearwater also was a good match to the Audience 50/Adcom set up. I have tried XLO cables and for me it wasnt a good match for my application. VDH cables are no longer being sold in the Philippines but I do suggest for you to check out Listening in Style for their speaker cable lineup. They may have cables there that can bring out the best in your Dyn/Arcam combo. Try to contact also Listening Room in Mega as they may still have some of the VDH cables in stock (new old stock). good luck
Post by: Lucky7 on Jul 11, 2005 at 08:49 AM
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 11, 2005 at 12:58 PM
Thanks synrcho1, what about interconnects? any recommendation?
try the ff: MIT, Audience, VDH :)
Post by: tuscany on Jul 13, 2005 at 07:02 PM
Post by: rony on Jul 13, 2005 at 07:58 PM
I'm planning to buy new speakers and I am considering the Audience 52. Has anyone here tried to use the said speaker with a Musical Fidelity A2 amp (25 watt per channel into 8ohms and 50 watts into 4 ohms). Will the amp be able to maximize the potential of the Audience 52.
I dont think so. Dynes need a lot of AMP power. :( I think you should audition syncro_01 setup. :D
he can help you a lot with regards to dynaudio. ;D
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 14, 2005 at 10:03 AM
a 50 watt/ch@4ohm power amp will produce decent sound from the A-52's but definitely it wont make them sing to their fullest potential. power them with at least a true and clean 100 watts@4ohms/ch power amp so that you will have the headroom to spare when the musical crescendos kick in. you'd be surprised in what an A52 can do when mated with a big amp.
rony
kamusta na bro? :) 302's mo ha! next in line ako if ever ;)
Post by: iceman90a on Jul 14, 2005 at 10:45 AM
Post by: Lucky7 on Jul 18, 2005 at 05:48 AM
Tanong lang po. Anong quality ng sound from your Marantz/Rotel combi? Marantz sound ba or Rotel sound?
Thanks
Post by: mYKi on Jul 29, 2005 at 09:47 PM
I don't know what the Rotel sound is since this is my first Rotel gear.
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 17, 2005 at 12:12 AM
the new Contour speakers are now in stock. They have the new bookshelves and the floorstanding models. I had the chance to listen to the entry level Contour S1.4 bookshelves (SRP Php120T and as always..may less pa daw). It was driven by an all Meridian set up at LIS (CDP, pre, poweramp). Well...what can I say..the sound was simply outstanding. Accdng to the staff the speakers were still in break in stage but boy oh boy..ang galing tumunog. being a Tuesday..konti lang ang walk in so the place was empty. I ended up listening a whole hour to the S1.4/Meridian rig...after 1 hour still no listening fatigue. was really tempted to take it home and do a home audition but had enough common sense to realize that I will just waste my time because its way too small for the requirement at hand. ended up getting a different model for home audition which are more than adequate for the job.
too bad the Special 25's was not in stock. Even though it was waaay out of budget, I was really hoping to hear how the Dynaudio 25th anniversary Special 25 sounds like. The price is astounding for a bookshelf. SRP is Php220T but almost everybody who reviewed the speaker over the net and those who heard it swear that this indeed is a remarkable speaker and is well worth the price. BTW read from the Dyn website that it carries a freakin' 25 year warranty. Maybe next month daw magkaroon ng stock. Hope to audition it soon...hanggang audition lang naman ako dun for sure. well the lotto gives me hope everyweek hehe
BTW here is the new Contour S.14 bookshelf speaker
(http://www.dynaudiousa.com/products/photo/cont/s14.jpg)
cheers ;D
Post by: iceman90a on Nov 22, 2005 at 06:54 PM
Post by: esquire_90 on Nov 23, 2005 at 01:53 PM
was browsing their site and they have a new line of speakers - the Focus... wonder if they have this in the Phils. :)
Yes, LIS has it. The focus line was on display during the Hi-Fi show in Mandarin last Nov. 5-6.
Post by: Bogsle on Nov 25, 2005 at 07:47 PM
I'm on the lookout for new audio listening speakers and one of my choices is the Dyn Audience 52SE.
Some say that Dyns are require adequate power to perform well.
May I ask you comments on the combination of Dyn Audience 52SE and Primare I20 dual mono integrated amp RMS 70watts/channel @ 8ohms, 110watts/channel @ 4ohms?
Thank you very much.
Post by: mYKi on Nov 29, 2005 at 10:39 AM
I'm sure it will sound great with your Primare I20. But, the thing with Dyns, if you keep feeding it with more power, it keeps sounding better.
Check out this thread where a user used the 30 series and likes the synergy of the Dyns with Primare.
http://www6.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?t=147231
I guess the best way to find out is to try your combination, and then try with a more powerful amp to see if you're missing something.
BTW, my audiophile friend from work heard the 52SE already and he was totally impressed.
Myki
Post by: mYKi on Nov 29, 2005 at 10:47 AM
I just saw this review and according to the author, you really must use powerful amps to hear the speed these speakers are capable of:
http://www.stereotimes.com/speak081604.shtm
Good luck with your decision! :)
Post by: wasp on Feb 16, 2006 at 09:54 PM
Got my new Focus 140 fresh from Hawaii replacing my 2 year old Wharf Crystal 20(ill be using it for my rears). Ill be posting pics soon as masetup ko.
My very basic setup
Yamaha RXV -540
Dynaudio Focus 140 (naka Box pa!)
Wharf Crystal 20
Wharf Crystal 10
Diamong 9 CS
Mordaunt Short 907 Sub
halo-halo na! hehehe
Di ko pa sure kung match sa yamaha ang dynaudio speakers pero oks lang for sure may kunting improvement sa dati kong setup
Post by: Lucky7 on Feb 17, 2006 at 10:41 AM
Congrats I know you will be very happy with your Focus 140. I heard its little brother, the 110 driven by a Rotel 1062 int. amp and was very impressed. I compared it to B&w705 with the same amp at panalo pa rin ang Dyns.Kaya lang stay muna ako sa Audience series due to wife factor.
Mga Dyns users please keep on posting. Ganda talaga tumunog ng Dynaudio.....
Post by: wasp on Feb 17, 2006 at 02:21 PM
ano ba best match na receiver for dynaudio speakers? Cheapest to mid level prices lang sana. Mejo kulang tayo sa budget.
btw im only using nextbase 785 player for video and audio na rin. So marami pang pede i-improve ung focus140.
madami ako gusto itanong pero nde ko pa maisip.
Got this focus 140 as a gift pero mukhang mapapagastos din ako ah ;D
Post by: sillyputty on Feb 17, 2006 at 05:31 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Feb 18, 2006 at 01:09 PM
dyns need power...lots of power. I doubt if any budget receivers can bring the best out of the dyns.
My friend's Yamaha 1300 wasnt able to bring out the best of his dynes. And the 1300 wasnt a budget receiver.
HK635, however, did a good job in making the dynes sing. The key to dynes is, like you said...lots of power.
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 18, 2006 at 11:33 PM
Post by: wasp on Feb 19, 2006 at 09:36 AM
Sa cables/interconnects pede na cguro un ginagamit ko.
Customize Triple-T using belden solid stp cables.
what i need cguro is a powerful avr. any brand/model? para pag-ipunan ko na lang. or abang na lang ako d2 sa pdvd para mas mura!
tiyagain ko na lang muna sa 540 may kunting improvement naman sa dating setup ko.
sa wife aproval ala problem singol pa ako ;D. Kala ko wala na ako gastos mukhang masasars na rin ako
Post by: wasp on Feb 19, 2006 at 09:49 AM
sabagay this dyns cost $1400 + freight. so justified na i also need $1500 + range of avr's. Panaginip na lang cguro yun. Nahiya na ko magpabili sa kapatid ko hehehe. He's not into this hobby pa naman.
Post by: mYKi on Feb 19, 2006 at 03:53 PM
Seriously, try to get a 2nd hand powerful reciever. I saw someone post a Marantz 8200 here na mura lang. Check out the HK and NAD receivers as well since I've heard positive things with these combined with Dynaudio. Rotel is a good match as well.
The more power you give Dynaudio, the more it will sing. The better source equipment and cables you use, the better it will sound as well. So kung baga, the sky's the limit. :-)
Myki
Post by: wasp on Feb 23, 2006 at 09:35 AM
Post by: john5479 on Feb 23, 2006 at 03:50 PM
Post by: jay2 on Mar 14, 2006 at 09:04 PM
Also whats the diff in sound between the 72se and 82(sound wise)? Wala stock ng 72se sa store.
My current setup avr is rotel rsx 1055 and planning to buy an rb 1080 for the dynes.
thank you very much
Post by: mYKi on Mar 15, 2006 at 06:46 AM
I have Audience 52/42/42C paired with Rotel RMB-1075 and the match is wonderful. I use Marantz for my pre-amp and processing. The 72SE has upgraded drivers and is almost like the Contour. I'd go for the 72SE rather than the 82 though especially since you will most probably have a sub-woofer in your HT setup anyway.
Myki
Post by: MAtZTER on May 26, 2006 at 02:14 PM
TIA :)
Post by: taggart on May 29, 2006 at 01:28 AM
Matzer: if he has a bright system, he could try vdh from watt-hifi in MCS.
Post by: mYKi on May 30, 2006 at 08:38 AM
Myki
Hi guys, I am looking for speaker wires for my friend's Audience 72. Any recommendations, where to buy & around how much are they?
TIA :)
Post by: fong on Jun 17, 2006 at 11:39 PM
I'm just new to HT and am currently researching on value for money speakers and Receivers.
Currently, I am looking at this combination:
1. HK AVR 235/240 , rated at 50 Watts per channel @ <0.07% THD, 20Hz – 20kHz into 8 ohms
2. Dynaudio Audience 42, rated at 150W at 4 ohms.
Question is, would the power from the HK be enough to bring out the life from the dynaudios? Second, how do you determine the stability of amps sa HT?
I actually have setups for car audio, and you have to match the speaker rated impedance with the amp's stable impedance. But, basing from what i read from the forums, 8 ohm amps can drive 4 ohm speakers. I don't see any documentation for the HK 235 stating the minimum stable impedance..
Hope to get your inputs.
Thanks!
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 19, 2006 at 10:03 AM
Hi Dyna users,
I'm just new to HT and am currently researching on value for money speakers and Receivers.
Currently, I am looking at this combination:
1. HK AVR 235/240 , rated at 50 Watts per channel @ <0.07% THD, 20Hz – 20kHz into 8 ohms
2. Dynaudio Audience 42, rated at 150W at 4 ohms.
Question is, would the power from the HK be enough to bring out the life from the dynaudios? Second, how do you determine the stability of amps sa HT?
I actually have setups for car audio, and you have to match the speaker rated impedance with the amp's stable impedance. But, basing from what i read from the forums, 8 ohm amps can drive 4 ohm speakers. I don't see any documentation for the HK 235 stating the minimum stable impedance..
Hope to get your inputs.
Thanks!
Hi fong
HK conservatively rates their AVR's so that 50watt/ch would be about 80 watts/ch in rms. Now if you mate that with an A42 then expect the HK to pump out in excess of 100watts/ch if the program material warrants it. If you are setting up an HT/music system then the A42 would be happy with that sort of power and it would be able to fill a small to medium sized room with effects/music (provided that it will be also supported by a center channel, surround and sub). If you have the extra dough to spare I suggest you get the A52. The increase in size of the mid woofer is worth the price increase though the A52's would be better off with MORE power IMHO. Get the Audience 42C center channel, the match is seamless with either the A42 or A52. Now if music is your priority rather than HT then the Contour or Focus is the way to go.
Post by: MAtZTER on Jun 19, 2006 at 10:53 AM
I agree with sychro, get A52 but get at least HK335 or higher. My friend used HK635 to power his a72 and I also tested his rarely used a42's with a Yamaha 1300 and it sounded like a transistor radio, (super nipis ng sound). I have auditioned the 235 and it also sounded a bit thin compared to HK's higher models.
In case you want the A42, I can hook you up with my friend, he almost never used his a42 and a42 center as he was planning to use it for su rrounds but used ceiling mounted speakers instead.
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 20, 2006 at 12:19 AM
Fong,
get an A52 then power it with 225watts/ch rms....you'd be surprised on how a little bookshelf speaker can sound like a floorstander in scale and granduer (mated with the correct room size of course).
Post by: Voltraizer on Jun 20, 2006 at 06:18 AM
(In the review, the amp used a 86db-4ohm bookshelf speaker)
www.6moons.com/audioreviews/onix/onix.html
The statement "tube power is 3X than solid state power" has been the subject of debate among audio-enthusiast, some say "watt is watt is watt" , some say 50 watts tube amp is 2-3X powerful than the same 50
watts solid state amp. Only by listening and by comparison, you'll be able to verify the claims.
A friend of mine bought the dynaudio focus 220 floorstander and have a good result using VTL EL-34
tube amp.
8)
Post by: john5479 on Jun 20, 2006 at 07:18 AM
Post by: joelcc on Jul 05, 2006 at 10:24 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 13, 2006 at 03:20 PM
I was skeptic when I was told about this 70w amp driving dynaudios. But when I auditioned it, the Exposure amp really surprised me.
Post by: ricky on Jul 13, 2006 at 04:06 PM
Post by: fong on Jul 13, 2006 at 08:20 PM
Post by: mYKi on Jul 14, 2006 at 05:31 AM
What source equipment did you use? Hmmm, nakaka-intriga tuloy. Where did you audition?
Myki
Me & my friend (who owns a dynaudio a72) auditioned an Audeince 72 last night with an EXPOSURE integrated amp. I must say its the best sounding combination I have ever heard, maybe the best I have ever heard.
I was skeptic when I was told about this 70w amp driving dynaudios. But when I auditioned it, the Exposure amp really surprised me.
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 14, 2006 at 09:45 AM
Ricky, di pa rin sure if he will buy, that guy thinks a million times before he buys.
Fong: Alam ko its 8 ohms
Post by: Lucky7 on Aug 17, 2006 at 11:04 PM
How much is the exposure amp? 2010s ba?
thanks
Post by: ricky on Aug 18, 2006 at 01:03 AM
Matzter,
How much is the exposure amp? 2010s ba?
thanks
Its very reasonable bro considering that it made the a72 sing beautifully. Its one nice amp to consider,muntik na kami mapasubo ni matt ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 19, 2006 at 10:44 PM
Matzter,
How much is the exposure amp? 2010s ba?
thanks
Yes, 2010s. Its at P60k SRP. I keep away from it to prevent SARS.
Post by: Munskie on Aug 19, 2006 at 11:04 PM
Yes, 2010s. Its at P60k SRP. I keep away from it to prevent SARS.wow 60k for integrated amps huh.. :o :o :o if you avoid it, it must be worth that...
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 19, 2006 at 11:34 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 20, 2006 at 08:30 AM
Post by: Lucky7 on Aug 20, 2006 at 12:36 PM
Since you already heard this amp with Dyns, could you describe its sound? laid back ba, neutral or forward?
thanks
Post by: MAtZTER on Aug 22, 2006 at 09:53 AM
Mat,
Since you already heard this amp with Dyns, could you describe its sound? laid back ba, neutral or forward?
thanks
I would describe it as very dynamic with the music we listened to.
But given the 3 choices you mentioned above, I would say its forward (if I interpretted the word correctly).
Post by: xpenz on Sep 05, 2006 at 08:43 PM
Guys, sa totoo lng atat nadin ako bumili ng home theater set. But somewhere at the back of my mind, something is telling me that iam not yet ready, and i still need some good research before plunging into the hometheater world. So i would like to ask an advice regarding this DYNA AUDIO, because i will be spending 280-375k and the dealer was saying that dyna is one of the best audio and hometheater set. He even demo it for me, for how many times for different models and I was impressed, however, I'd still want some confirmation from you guys, most specially those who have DYNA sets or have heard this several times in their DEMO sessions.
The question still lies.. How Does DYNA AUDIO compare to brands such as B&W, Mission, Wharfdale, Daichi, Mordaunt short, JBL, Others i forgot to mention pls don't hesitate to include it for comparison sake? Any opinion, recommendations and personal advice from personal experience pls kindly share some, I would really appreciate it and would greatly help me on my decision in buying a home theater set by the end of this week. Thank you in advance. ^_^
Post by: Munskie on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:01 PM
What I would advise you is to research online first and after that, limit your preference to three brands. and from there, try to audition them all, using the same amp, as much as possible. Bring your favorite reference CD or DVD. Go A/V shop hopping to audition the finalists, and from there, you yourself can judge which sound bests to you. Time invested in auditioning is essential specially if ur gonna spend 280-375k on HT gears. :) :) you can pm sir dieselsy too, he owns one of the best HT set-up here in PDVD..and he owns Dynes :) :)
Post by: xpenz on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:17 PM
Post by: Munskie on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:21 PM
Post by: xpenz on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:25 PM
Post by: Munskie on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:31 PM
Post by: xpenz on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:34 PM
Post by: Munskie on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:47 PM
im not familiar with pricing of Dynes, but in quality, Im sure you wont go wrong with them, as long as you feed them with a powerful amp.
heres what your budget can do.
Rotel pre/pro
Rotel power Amp
your choice of speakers kakasya dito, then magkakasukli kapa para sa PJ
Post by: xpenz on Sep 05, 2006 at 09:54 PM
Post by: Munskie on Sep 05, 2006 at 10:03 PM
Post by: Lucky7 on Sep 06, 2006 at 01:44 AM
Sa budget mo dami kang choices. Pero I recommend receiver/amp from Arcam, Rotel and Nad in that order. Sayang ang Dyns if you go yamaha. Go back to the dealer and listen again and try diff.amps and choose the combination that suits your taste. I have a Nad T753 and a pair of Dyns52 and the sound is warm and great. Di ko na na audition yung Arcam 300 baka ma sars lang ako pero I think its better than my Nad. I had an Arcam200 before and sold it because its only 5.1. Good luck and let us know.
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 06, 2006 at 10:35 AM
yes about the receiver nga pala. The dealer was recommending yamaha which happen to drive it well so far. Pero medyo bright sa hearing ko e. So i would appreciate any recommendations for an alternative receiver/amp
HAHAHAHAHA. My friend who owns dynaudio audience 72 kept complaining that his Yamaha's could not drive the dyns for music, ok lang sa HT, but kulang na kulang for audio. He was using a 1300 model in an 80+ sqm room. But I am not sure for the new 2600 or 4600 model.
Dynes are even more power hungry than B&W's, as SGT always says. Keep a certain (big) budget for your amps. Separates would be a good route. For your room size, floorstanders are a must and I would recommend at least 200-250wpc for your fronts.
I have heard the dyns sing for music and it really made my eyes pop. Its one of the best I ever heard, but provided the combination is right. I heard it with Exposure 2010s integrated amp and CDP in a small shop. These 3 (audience 72, CDP, int amp) would cost some 200k already.
For HT, I could not recall if it sounded great with my friend's setup. When I was watching at his HT before, I was still a total newbie w/ no setup of my own at that time so it was impressive already for me, specially his subs (syempre newbie pa ako noon, LFE ang impressive, not details). I have not compared it to my current setup yet w/ regards to HT.
Post by: Munskie on Sep 06, 2006 at 10:39 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 06, 2006 at 11:00 AM
I REALLY doubt if you will go wrong with this setup. Thats enough power and I think this will fit your budget of 375k. Processor (90k), Speakers (160k), 5 channel amp (60k), 2 channel amp (around 70k).
Try audioworld or SGT home theater for your Rotel needs.
View the HT gallery and look for khamshaw's HT, he is using 3 stereo amps for his Dynaudio HT and he is using Bryston 2x250w for his fronts. 3 stereo amps is very ideal, lots of power & individual transformers. The most ideal, if you have the budget, are monoblocks for each speaker, but thats too much (money).
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 06, 2006 at 11:15 AM
Post by: Munskie on Sep 06, 2006 at 11:20 AM
medyo nagmamadali si mr. xpenz (hehehehe, very relative yung handle nya sa gagastusin nya), kaya di na naya magawa yung advise ko sa kanya na mag invest ng time sa auditioning. Di yata sya taga manila, and have only few days left to spend that HT budget of his. :)
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 06, 2006 at 12:00 PM
matt, hes still gonna buy panny ae900 from that 375k budget.
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Hopefully, someone could give me more direct advise on the combinations if i want to buy this or that with my budget 280-375k, it can be lower, as long as the quality won't suffer sana.
Whoa! Ok so I assume that 375k is the budget for the whole setup and sticking to Dynes since this is the Dynaudio thread:
85k AE900
40-45k Velodyne CHT15r (for a 40sq m. room)
100k Dynaudio 72 and center ,
for surrounds I follow dieselsy's practical setup, kahit wharfes no prob 10k. Go for Dyn surrounds if you are into multichannel audio, if not 34k for a pair of surrounds (68k for a 7.1 surround) is wow... I would rather spend on the amps for 68k
68k Rotel 1080 (2x200), (dito mo nalang buhos yung 68k budget for surrounds) 200w is a must for your big room.
60k Top Mid end receiver (better processor) to power your center & surrounds
I am not sure if I can recommend Yamaha since I was told by a Rotel dealer that they tried a Yamaha flagship plus Rotel and the owner didnt like it (bright daw). Take note this is hearsay and regarding older models, duno abt the new models (with pre out ek-eks accdng to brochure). In my experience naman, its ok with my Harman Rotel combo.
Just called Audioworld and Joey is giving a special price for cash purchase. This would stretch your budget a bit.
Post by: rony on Sep 06, 2006 at 12:19 PM
Post by: dieselsy on Sep 06, 2006 at 11:35 PM
sori for my typing ha im nt gud at it ;D ;D
Post by: et414 on Sep 07, 2006 at 01:06 AM
the RMB-1075 is perfect for the B&W 604 and perfect for your budget :) i don't think you'll ever find it lacking, your ears would bleed first ;D
But in most international forums they recommend the 602 over the 604 because the only advantage of the 604 is in the bass department. a good sub+602 will match the 604s daw. so if ever you decide to go B&W ok na ok na ang 602 even for a large room. i would have gone w/ the dm602 s3, lcr600 combo myself kaso may nahanap akong deal for 604s2, lcr6 for almost the same price e.
just my 2 cents :)
p.s.
if you wanna know more about b&w and rotels check out:
http://www.htguide.com/forum/forumdisplay.php4?f=22
for user reviews:
http://www.audioreview.com/
hope this helps :)
Post by: xpenz on Sep 07, 2006 at 01:38 AM
munskie
ET414
ricky
matzer
and dieselsy
Thank you very much. I respect all your advices tlga because honestly, iam not too eager to spend my money to that type of high profile speaker, which happen to be very sensitive and requires much more expensive item for it to drive. So certainly the budget will just shoot up and up and up until i get satisfied with it. so i was really happy for all your honest advices and recommendations. And iam considering all other options that you all patiently laid down for me. Really appreciate it! I will really try to audtion it all. Hopefully i can postpone my earlier departure time to accomodate all the necessary auditioning schedules.
One thing i didn't like in this dyna thread is that when i say my budget is 280-375k, some are trying to give advices to exact my expenditure to 375k. Which is okay but i will be most likely happy if someone could recommend a lowered hometheater set up price but would produce a very pleasant and satisfying result. hoenstly, iam not limiting myself to dyna audio only, it just happened to be the 1st speaker set that's been auditioned to me, and honestly, This is my 1st time setting up a serious home theater set. since the boomy logitech 5.1 mini home thater i got. So I would prefer if its a little bit user friendly so that if upgrade in the future is necessary. I won't be getting hard time doing so. Since DynaAudio is quite sensitive and much more of a veteran speaker set besides being that expensive. I will now be considering a very very good alternative and yet i hope it still would be a satisfying experience. So thanks again mates for the recommendations,advices and patience you got for advice seekers like me. i hope you would all keep it coming. ;)
Post by: Munskie on Sep 07, 2006 at 07:14 AM
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 07, 2006 at 10:27 AM
I will try to post sa recommend a speaker thread para mas appropriate mr. expenz...hehehehe, alam mo naman tayo sa PinoyDVD, kapag nagbigay ka budget, lalo na kung nagrerecomend lang kami at hindi yung gumagastos, sinasagad yung budget, hehehehe ;D ;D
Sarap kasi mag recommend pag di mo pera, LOL. Lalo na pag isang bagsakan lang lahat. ;D. It took me like almost 2 years to slowly save up to get to expenz's minimum budget expenditure for my HT.
One thing i didn't like in this dyna thread is that when i say my budget is 280-375k, some are trying to give advices to exact my expenditure to 375k. Which is okay but i will be most likely happy if someone could recommend a lowered hometheater set up price but would produce a very pleasant and satisfying result. I will now be considering a very very good alternative and yet i hope it still would be a satisfying experience. So thanks again mates for the recommendations,advices and patience you got for advice seekers like me. i hope you would all keep it coming. ;)
Actually, a lower cost HT setup is much easier to advise. I would have mentioned this several posts ago, but it would be OT (out of topic) already since this is the Dynaudio thread. Sige, sa Recommend a speaker thread na lang kami mag recommend. :)
But just to clear things up, 280 is you budget for everything? including PJ and subs?
If it is the case, you can browse the HT gallery and look for my setup and use it for reference. My estimate is, my HT gears may fit your minimum budget. Just upgrade to CHT-15r and M53 floorstanders for your 40sq room.
Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 07, 2006 at 11:17 AM
Also...try not to listen to the other models of the Dynes like the Special 25 and the Evidence series. you might end up taking home a Stereo pair instead of Home Theater set ;D
Post by: et414 on Sep 07, 2006 at 01:47 PM
you're from the province pala! where are you from? problema pala nyan baka order basis yung ibang components na gusto mo :( anyway i've sent you a pm, hope this helps :)
Post by: xpenz on Sep 07, 2006 at 08:45 PM
Thank you sa suggestion, that would be very nice. Diko lam ganitu pala sa PDVD sagaran. hehehe
@ matzter
a very satisfying 280k setup is most welcome sir matz! ill try to browse base dun sa set up mo, btw, i saw some of the pics already and your room is awesome! ;)
@synchro
nice input mate, but iam about to give up on the dynes since the series of compatibility risk posts before this post. as ive said before, im just barely a newbie in this serious Ht world. I would love a high end machine if i can afford one with a promise of a very satisfying HT experience, but if such complicated problems might occur in the future and i might suddenly get overwhelmed; sayng nmn because i know i only have a very limited troubleshooting tricks to throw outside my sleeves. This might result in a lot of expenses just to get the satisfying experience I intended to get in dynes speakers. But still I have not fully given up on dynes, I'd still audition it, this time with other receivers, provided my budget could still allow it.
@ET414
Sa masbate ang province ko bro, medyo may kalayuan tlga. because it's not located sa city mismo. Actually very far pa sya sa city. Puro lubak lubak kalsada kunsabagay libre na masahe yun! ;D ;D Andun ksi lumber and construction business nmin e. kaya no choice but to stay at the far side of the planet. Hehehe sana nga mapasaya nlng ako ng HT ko if ever good buy nga ang makuha ko sana.... That would be real great besides my GF of course. ;D ;)
Post by: Munskie on Sep 07, 2006 at 08:53 PM
Post by: ricky on Sep 07, 2006 at 09:06 PM
Post by: xpenz on Sep 07, 2006 at 09:21 PM
hmm yung cables nga pala is another minor problem, pero ok lng nmn ata paparecommend nlng sa dealer, cguru nmn since cable lng yan e makakapagsuggest na sila ng maayus nun. ;)
@ Ricky
oo naman, i really believe in you guys khit noon paman ngbabasa bko ditu. about DVDs nga lang. ang gagaling tlga ng advises nyu at makikita nmn sa pics ng HT rooms and collections nyu e. Excellent tlga! Kaya nga I will really try my best na makakuha din ng good buy para nmn di masayang mga suggestions nyu mga mates! :)
Post by: Munskie on Sep 07, 2006 at 09:22 PM
Post by: Meridian-Audio on Sep 07, 2006 at 09:33 PM
Pwede rin ba ako magrecommend ng speaker system sau?? ;D
I can also give u demo. ;)
Post by: ricky on Sep 07, 2006 at 09:44 PM
@ munchskin
hmm yung cables nga pala is another minor problem, pero ok lng nmn ata paparecommend nlng sa dealer, cguru nmn since cable lng yan e makakapagsuggest na sila ng maayus nun
Im really sure they will recommend kaya lang baka mas mahal pa sa speakers yung kalabasan ??? ::) ;D you can check out the klotz cables,per meter sya so mas mura ;D
Post by: ricky on Sep 07, 2006 at 09:45 PM
Post by: xpenz on Sep 07, 2006 at 11:12 PM
Sure sir, and thank you in advance pala. Dun nlng daw sa recommend speaker pagusapan or PM nlng mate. tnx again
Post by: fong on Sep 16, 2006 at 10:39 PM
I'm already dead set to get the Dynaudio 42s. My problem is that I have the following components, and i am lacking the processor:
1. DVD/CD Player (HK27)
2. Power Amp - HK PA2000 (120W x 2 @ 8 ohms)
4 (soon to be) Dynaudio 42s
I am having trouble deciding what to put in the middle, either an AVR or just a pre-processor/integrated amp?
Please help...
Thanks!
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 18, 2006 at 10:49 AM
Hi Guys,
I'm already dead set to get the Dynaudio 42s. My problem is that I have the following components, and i am lacking the processor:
1. DVD/CD Player (HK27)
2. Power Amp - HK PA2000 (120W x 2 @ 8 ohms)
4 (soon to be) Dynaudio 42s
I am having trouble deciding what to put in the middle, either an AVR or just a pre-processor/integrated amp?
Please help...
Thanks!
Is you power amp bridged @ 2x120? Remember that Dyns are at 4 ohms and bridged amps work for 8 ohms. Is this for HT or Stereo?
Post by: fong on Sep 18, 2006 at 11:47 AM
yep, its bridged.
I'll be actually using them for both HT/Audio. Wala naman siguro problema to right, given the rep of HK amps?
Fong
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 18, 2006 at 12:32 PM
If for HT, go for a HK 635. It can power the A42's. My friend uses it to power A72's.
If you have the budget, go for Rotels
Post by: fong on Sep 18, 2006 at 01:32 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 18, 2006 at 01:42 PM
ahhhh.. hehe out of budget. so anyway you will suggest to get an AVR pa rin right?
Of course, you said you will use it for HT, syempre either AVR or separates if you have the budget. Dont forget to factor in the more expensive AVRs or separates amp you need for Dynes.
some of the fellow members I know told me that Rotels were able to power Dyn bookshelves well enough.
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 18, 2006 at 01:57 PM
Hi Master MAtz,
yep, its bridged.
I'll be actually using them for both HT/Audio. Wala naman siguro problema to right, given the rep of HK amps?
Fong
In a bridged config, each amp will see half the speaker load. If your amps are rated for 2 ohms, bridging them over 4 ohm speakers should be no problem. But I doubt if commercial amps are so rated. The PA2000 was among the first power amps I considered 2 years ago. And I downloaded the pdf manual in my research. The required speaker impedance is 8 ohms, bridged or not, clearly indicated at the back panel. It doesn't even have a 4-ohm power specfication. Amplifiers than can handle 4-ohm loads do. But you can always try. The amp's protection circuit is there to engage if and when the load conditions start to become intolerable for the amp.
Post by: fong on Sep 18, 2006 at 04:22 PM
What particular rotel yung kaya mag drive ng Dyns? I am also looking at the RA-02/RA-01, kaso 40W/chan lang to. bad trip naman ang hirap maghanap ng papasok sa Dynaudio...
Post by: av_phile1 on Sep 18, 2006 at 07:39 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 09, 2006 at 02:30 PM
risky risky! libo yung sugal nito. heheh
What particular rotel yung kaya mag drive ng Dyns? I am also looking at the RA-02/RA-01, kaso 40W/chan lang to. bad trip naman ang hirap maghanap ng papasok sa Dynaudio...
Fong,
sent you a PM. im unloading some of my Classe amplifiers to give way to an upgrade. classe-dyn combo sounds a lot better than the Rotels that you have in mind. thanks
Post by: jay2 on Oct 09, 2006 at 03:06 PM
Post by: Lucky7 on Oct 10, 2006 at 02:37 AM
For Dyns, try mo Arcam or Nad. I auditioned the Rotel before and it sounded lean and cold for Dyns.Pero malay mo that is the kind of sound you prefer.
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 12, 2006 at 08:30 AM
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=57929.0
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 21, 2006 at 03:26 PM
Hi Guys,
I'm already dead set to get the Dynaudio 42s. My problem is that I have the following components, and i am lacking the processor:
1. DVD/CD Player (HK27)
2. Power Amp - HK PA2000 (120W x 2 @ 8 ohms)
4 (soon to be) Dynaudio 42s
I am having trouble deciding what to put in the middle, either an AVR or just a pre-processor/integrated amp?
Please help...
Thanks!
fong,
bro sent ypu p.m
thanks
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 24, 2007 at 01:17 PM
I was thinking of getting a Musical Fidelity A3.5 for its "HT direct" function that lets it become a power amp for HT. Ang mahal nga lang. :-[
Any MF/dyn users? is the combo ok?
Post by: qguy on Jan 24, 2007 at 01:31 PM
qguy- tempted to post the response in 2 other threads in a different forum ;D
Acquired a Dynaudio Audience 70 from a friend yesterday. W/ a top yamaha receiver, it was boomy in music, di bagay w/ tube pre amp plus Rotel power amp (IMO). Ok naman sya with exposure 2010 (not the 70w 2010S, this one is just 50w!) I borrowed, but harsh at times.
I was thinking of getting a Musical Fidelity A3.5 for its "HT direct" function that lets it become a power amp for HT. Ang mahal nga lang. :-[
Any MF/dyn users? is the combo ok?
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 24, 2007 at 01:50 PM
Can't you use a regular integrated amp with the Dyns and use one of the regular inputs for HT ?
qguy- tempted to post the response in 2 other threads in a different forum ;D
a bypass switch would make it a lot simpler for wiring. in audio mode, his ht processor will be turned off, only the integ amp will be in operation. in bypass mode - the integ amp's volume and tone controls will not be operational, it will only act as a power amp to pump out the juice for the speakers - all controls will be done by the processor.
Mat - haven't heard the 70's yet but we did pair up Audience 52's with a rotel power amp and tube preamp and the sound was ok. maybe there are other factors involved, room placement perhaps?
Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 24, 2007 at 06:35 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 25, 2007 at 01:35 PM
a bypass switch would make it a lot simpler for wiring. in audio mode, his ht processor will be turned off, only the integ amp will be in operation. in bypass mode - the integ amp's volume and tone controls will not be operational, it will only act as a power amp to pump out the juice for the speakers - all controls will be done by the processor.
Mat - haven't heard the 70's yet but we did pair up Audience 52's with a rotel power amp and tube preamp and the sound was ok. maybe there are other factors involved, room placement perhaps?
Vince, I switched the IC to Kimber & ok na, nagbagay na. I read in a mag that a budget rotel integrated can drive dyn 60 reasonalby. So I guess ok na muna to for now, less gastos pa, wife giving birth soon so I have to hold back on my purchases. 8)
So from the advice above, this is my (most economical) option:
Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
Since the pure direct function bypasses the Yamaha, I assume it will utilize the CDP DAC & tube preamp. This way I can still use it for HT. I will experiment on it soon & post my findings. :)
Post by: iceman90a on Jan 25, 2007 at 02:19 PM
Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
Since the pure direct function bypasses the Yamaha, I assume it will utilize the CDP DAC & tube preamp. This way I can still use it for HT. I will experiment on it soon & post my findings. :)
if it was me - i'd just take the time to unplug the yamaha and plug in the tube preamp (switch from pure HT to pure audio mode)
then plug in the cdp's digital out to the yamaha (so its still operational without using the tube preamp) during ht mode
just make sure to turn off the rotel everytime
Post by: rony on Jan 25, 2007 at 05:31 PM
Acquired a Dynaudio Audience 70 from a friend yesterday. W/ a top yamaha receiver, it was boomy in music, di bagay w/ tube pre amp plus Rotel power amp (IMO). Ok naman sya with exposure 2010 (not the 70w 2010S, this one is just 50w!) I borrowed, but harsh at times.
Matt bitin sa muscle yun amp. ;)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 26, 2007 at 10:27 AM
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Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
The good thing about it is I have access to volume control though the Yamaha remote! :)
All I can say is Dynes are simply STUNNING!!! Never heard my music like this before! Its like I have a stage of performers in front of me.
Ron: Kaya naman pala ng Rotel w/ the right matching, but I am sure 200w monoblocks will sound heavenly.
Post by: oweidah on Jan 26, 2007 at 10:44 AM
All I can say is Dynes are simply STUNNING!!! Never heard my music like this before! Its like I have a stage of performers in front of me.
I am sure 200w monoblocks will sound heavenly.
hmmm heavyweight SS or valve amplication na ang kasunod nyan! ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 26, 2007 at 11:25 AM
Tube CDp--->Tube pre-amp--->Yamaha receiver w/ "pure direct" function--->Rotel power amp--->Dyn a70.
"audio heaven in 1 (HT & audio) setup", just got text from a reader.
Let me add " hybrid audio heaven in 1 (HT & audio)setup... w/ remote" ;D
hmmm heavyweight SS or valve amplication na ang kasunod nyan! ;D
A die hard HT enthusiast/cousin is selling his monoblocks, I might check it out (if I can afford it). ;D
Post by: accastil on Jan 26, 2007 at 07:45 PM
arnoldc,give a listen to paradigm reference studio 20 version 3.. they can be found at sights and sounds shangrila mall...this would make you think twice about buying a dyne :)
You have a good point and will keep me really thinking. Can you pls PM me what speaker(s) youve finally bought and what receiver are you using... just for reference while Im still hunting for budget ;)
Post by: ricky on Jan 26, 2007 at 08:01 PM
give a listen to paradigm reference studio 20 version 3.. they can be found at sights and sounds shangrila mall...this would make you think twice about buying a dyne :)
Dynaudio thread ito bro ;)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 29, 2007 at 04:09 PM
iceman's proposed set up is the very ideal since you can use the integrated amp in music and in HT mode as well but there are only quite a few integrateds that have the HT thoughput function (one that disables the integrateds controls whenever it is engaged)....Krell is one but be prepared to shell out mega bucks for a brand new unit. Another method is to get a very good HT processor that excells in music as well and simply power the Dynes with a good power amp. That is a much simpler route to take. If im not mistaken the A70's are basically A50's that are in a floorstanding design plus the addition of another woofer.
Thanks for the advice sir, but I prefer to use the analog connection of the CDp, thereby bypassing the processor. Sayang lang if I go for a more expensive musical processor if I am not going to use their DAC. For now the setup with CDP, tube preamp, Yamaha in PD/bypass mode + Rotel power amp is doing fine.
But seeing the amp you were referring to made me drool. ;D
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/205krell1.jpg)
KRELL KAV400xi (http://www.krellonline.com/html/m_KAV_p_KAV400xi_spec.html)
$2500.00, with throughput button (HT direct).
Class A 200wpc @ 8ohms, 400wpc @ 4 ohms, 1,800w power consumption :o :o :o
Anyone selling pre-owned at 50% off? ;D
I wonder how much my electricity bill will shoot up & how warm my room will be with a 400w Class A amp...
Post by: Lucky7 on Jan 29, 2007 at 10:21 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 30, 2007 at 10:22 AM
Thanks for the advice sir, but I prefer to use the analog connection of the CDp, thereby bypassing the processor. Sayang lang if I go for a more expensive musical processor if I am not going to use their DAC. For now the setup with CDP, tube preamp, Yamaha in PD/bypass mode + Rotel power amp is doing fine.
Listen to it w/o the Yamaha in the chain. im pretty sure you will like the results.
Post by: rony on Jan 30, 2007 at 11:58 AM
Thanks for the advice sir, but I prefer to use the analog connection of the CDp, thereby bypassing the processor. Sayang lang if I go for a more expensive musical processor if I am not going to use their DAC. For now the setup with CDP, tube preamp, Yamaha in PD/bypass mode + Rotel power amp is doing fine.
But seeing the amp you were referring to made me drool. ;D
(http://www.stereophile.com/images/archivesart/205krell1.jpg)
KRELL KAV400xi (http://www.krellonline.com/html/m_KAV_p_KAV400xi_spec.html)
$2500.00, with throughput button (HT direct).
Class A 200wpc @ 8ohms, 400wpc @ 4 ohms, 1,800w power consumption :o :o :o
Anyone selling pre-owned at 50% off? ;D
I wonder how much my electricity bill will shoot up & how warm my room will be with a 400w Class A amp...
Matt with that amp im sure it will make your dyne sing by ten folds. Pero parang iwan naman yun speaker so upgrade ka uli sa c4 para mag match yun amp sa speakers. :D
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Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 30, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Listen to it w/o the Yamaha in the chain. im pretty sure you will like the results.
Will try that sir :)
Matt with that amp im sure it will make your dyne sing by ten folds. Pero parang iwan naman yun speaker so upgrade ka uli sa c4 para mag match yun amp sa speakers. :D
Haha, Dyn C4 + Krell...
Mas mura pa yata bumili muna ako ng bagong Kotse. :D
Oo nga pala. Sa laki ng C4, kelangan ko din ng bagong bahay para kumaasya yan.
Post by: 5Speed on Jan 30, 2007 at 01:16 PM
Nad M15 Surround Sound Pre/Pro
Nad M25 7 Channel Amp...
meron ding bagong player, yung M55
meron na ba dyan sa atin?
medyo ang mahal para sa akin, pero malamang eh tsiken yan sa yo....hehehehe ;D
makapag-ipon nga ng mga dalawang taon...herherherehrher
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 30, 2007 at 02:41 PM
Bro, punta ako HK by April, balitaan mo ako kung ano maganda bilhin dyan ha. Balita ko marami mura dyan. ;)
I would highly recommend the Simaudio I-3 for Dyns.Congrats-another Dyns convert.
Thanks. My (subjective) opinion is that my older Missions still excelled more in HT. But in music, the dynes gave a totally new life to all my CD's, even those I dont listen to anymore. These are truly amazing speakers, reminds me of those impressive high end speakers that I auditioned & then avoided (iwas SARS).
Post by: 5Speed on Jan 30, 2007 at 03:02 PM
Di bagay sa wallet bro. $6,000 for pre amp & power amp. wow receiver lang muna tayo. ;D
Bro, punta ako HK by April, balitaan mo ako kung ano maganda bilhin dyan ha. Balita ko marami mura dyan. ;)
Thanks. My (subjective) opinion is that my older Missions still excelled more in HT. But in music, the dynes gave a totally new life to all my CD's, even those I dont listen to anymore. These are truly amazing speakers, reminds me of those impressive high end speakers that I auditioned & then avoid (iwas SARS).
oo bah.....pero tapos na ang mga big sale at that time.....ngayong chinese new year ang maraming sale eh... (mid Feb.)
wala ka na yatang kulang na gears ser.....ano pa ba kulang mo?
sana wala ako sa overseas assignment pagpunta mo dito master matz.... para eb tayo.....:)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 30, 2007 at 03:25 PM
Maybe by April 10k na lang hi def players dyan, or malay mo may murang Dyn center (para di OT ;D)...
Hopefully we could meet, samahan mo ako sa HiFi shops dyan. Dati kasi I only go to computer & electronics shops when I wasnt into the hobby yet. Exciting... 8)
Pag di ka pwede paturo na lang kung saan pupunta. ;)
Post by: 5Speed on Jan 30, 2007 at 04:33 PM
Walang nang kulang? mayroon bang ganun sa hobby natin? :D
Maybe by April 10k na lang hi def players dyan, or malay mo may murang Dyn center (para di OT ;D)...
Hopefully we could meet, samahan mo ako sa HiFi shops dyan. Dati kasi I only go to computer & electronics shops when I wasnt into the hobby yet. Exciting... 8)
Pag di ka pwede paturo na lang kung saan pupunta. ;)
no problem bro.... basta andito ako at wala kaming bisita (client) eh baka masamahan kita....hehehehe
HD DVD player pala wala ka pa non....herherherher
kung mga SaCD/CD players....... meron ding mga mainstream na brand, marantz, cambridge audio, denons etc, .....(di ako tumitingin nung mga high-end at naglalaway lang ako hehehehe)
tapos samahan kita sa HMV para makapamakyaw ka ng mga DVD's.....
and para di OT....meron akong nakitang Dyns na center dito....pati na rin Dynes na Sub....:)
Post by: ganicru on Mar 19, 2007 at 03:53 PM
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Post by: Assassin101 on Mar 20, 2007 at 11:13 AM
Got a mint used pair of audience 42, hooked it up with Cayin MT35 and Cayin CDT15A. Has a specific character unique with the audience comparing with my Epos M12.2 (same set up). Am now going confused which set of speakers to let go (for sale). The audience 42 or the Epos M12.2. I'm torn between two sets of speakers with 1 set of tube amp and tube CD player. Help! Any offer I cannot refuse? 09209609550
pwede rin benta nyo na lang sakin yan audience 42 mo. kita ko nga yan form the other forum eh. if only ngayon yan available baka kinuha ko na yan ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ganicru on May 24, 2007 at 10:43 AM
Post by: The Analog Source on Aug 14, 2007 at 08:22 PM
I have 2 dyna's - audience 5 and audience 8
used to drive them (not simultaneously) with a pioneer vsx-633. just bought a second hand NAD304 which is now driving the 5. ok naman dun sa 633 coz i always listen in the middle of the night so mga 1/3 lang ang volume. pero sarap talaga pakinggan lalo na mga vocals like joni james, perro como, belafonte etc. I also listen to symphony orchestras and ang lalim at lawak ng soundstage. As with the NAD, have not yet listen to it much.
Anyway, i have been backreading this thread and found out that most would recommend a CLASSE or a NAD to drive the Dyna's. Heard already a DYNA/CLASSE combi about 10 years ago and until now dko pa makalimutan ang tunog. Passed by SM and saw an HK stereo only integrated amp (HK904?) that isspecified to drive 4ohms speakers. What's your take on this?
Can you also direct me where to find second hand Classe's and NAD? Does Listening Room still carry this brand? What about other amps that's cheaper than Classe, any reco? Also saw a NAD 2400 for sale, ok ba un with the Dyna's? Thanks in advance. Sorrrrry ha dami question. na-excited lang. :)
Post by: The Analog Source on Aug 14, 2007 at 08:29 PM
have you tried driving your dyna's with vintage amps circa early 80's or late 70's. anong labas?
i have a luxman... takot ako ikabit sa dyna baka either one ang masunog ???
Post by: docsialu on Aug 14, 2007 at 08:36 PM
Post by: The Analog Source on Aug 14, 2007 at 08:38 PM
Hi halls, welcome, give audioworld banawe 7327716 a call, look for joey or jason, they have NAD products and they are the authorized service center as well, enjoy!!!
will do. thanks sir for your immediate reply. :)
Post by: ricky on Aug 14, 2007 at 08:58 PM
greetings everyone!!! just registered today and this thread immediately caught my attention.
I have 2 dyna's - audience 5 and audience 8
used to drive them (not simultaneously) with a pioneer vsx-633. just bought a second hand NAD304 which is now driving the 5. ok naman dun sa 633 coz i always listen in the middle of the night so mga 1/3 lang ang volume. pero sarap talaga pakinggan lalo na mga vocals like joni james, perro como, belafonte etc. I also listen to symphony orchestras and ang lalim at lawak ng soundstage. As with the NAD, have not yet listen to it much.
Anyway, i have been backreading this thread and found out that most would recommend a CLASSE or a NAD to drive the Dyna's. Heard already a DYNA/CLASSE combi about 10 years ago and until now dko pa makalimutan ang tunog. Passed by SM and saw an HK stereo only integrated amp (HK904?) that isspecified to drive 4ohms speakers. What's your take on this?
Can you also direct me where to find second hand Classe's and NAD? Does Listening Room still carry this brand? What about other amps that's cheaper than Classe, any reco? Also saw a NAD 2400 for sale, ok ba un with the Dyna's? Thanks in advance. Sorrrrry ha dami question. na-excited lang. :)
Heard a friends dyns audience 70 being driven by a BADA INTEGRATED AMP,and I can say WOW kayang kaya pAKANTAHIN :o At fraction of the cost ;) Also heard exposure-dyn combo and its nice also kaya lang medyo pricey na :)
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 16, 2007 at 05:38 PM
Anyway, i have been backreading this thread and found out that most would recommend a CLASSE or a NAD to drive the Dyna's. Heard already a DYNA/CLASSE combi about 10 years ago and until now dko pa makalimutan ang tunog. Passed by SM and saw an HK stereo only integrated amp (HK904?) that isspecified to drive 4ohms speakers. What's your take on this?
Can you also direct me where to find second hand Classe's and NAD? Does Listening Room still carry this brand? What about other amps that's cheaper than Classe, any reco? Also saw a NAD 2400 for sale, ok ba un with the Dyna's? Thanks in advance. Sorrrrry ha dami question. na-excited lang. :)
im selling 2 units of the Classe model seventy power amps. not using them anymore since im more into stereo these days which incidentally is also Dyn/Classe powered. Dyn/Classe combi user for 8 years already and so far I have not had the urge to upgrade. synergy is very good in my opinion.
Post by: mYKi on Sep 21, 2007 at 12:08 PM
I've had my Audience 52s for quite some time and I'd like to plan for a front speaker upgrade by next year. I'm hooked with the Dyn sound so I'm not interested in shifting brands. Also, my center and surrounds are Audience 42s and 42C so it seems best to stick with the Audience line.
Question lang for those who have experience with the SEs:
What would be a worthwhile upgrade: Audience 52SE or Audience 72? Why?
Thanks!
Post by: Macgyv3r on Oct 22, 2007 at 08:10 AM
its my first time to be in a forum..
need ur help..
hev anyone tried focus 140 with a jolida jd801a tube amp (70wpc x 2 @ 8ohms)?
im planning to buy one kc. i know that dynes are very good and it
matches my taste as far as sound quality is concern when paired
with a good and powerful amps.
but im just worried if it will sound well with my jolida integrated amp..
PS. hi myki!! tnxs for d sr5500.
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 22, 2007 at 09:39 AM
Post by: accastil on Oct 22, 2007 at 11:21 AM
hi guys!!!most probably it could...but just as advised, the safest way to answer your ? is to try it.
its my first time to be in a forum..
need ur help..
hev anyone tried focus 140 with a jolida jd801a tube amp (70wpc x 2 @ 8ohms)?
im planning to buy one kc. i know that dynes are very good and it
matches my taste as far as sound quality is concern when paired
with a good and powerful amps.
but im just worried if it will sound well with my jolida integrated amp..
PS. hi myki!! tnxs for d sr5500.
Post by: Macgyv3r on Oct 26, 2007 at 07:31 AM
actually thats my last game plan..
after i narrowed down my search to at least 3 brands.. i'll audition it one by one with my own amp..
Post by: lakambini on Aug 27, 2008 at 11:47 AM
how much is the new EXCITE (bookshelf) loudspeakers from Dynaudio?
Post by: bass_nut on Sep 07, 2008 at 10:57 AM
cheers!!
Post by: samlowry on Sep 14, 2008 at 02:48 AM
a pair of audience 52 for the fronts
2 42c for center and rear center
a pair of audience 42 for rears
1 audience sub 30
I'm moving my HT to a much smaller space and These things are getting too bulky. I'm very tempted to buy the polk audio surroundbar50 which should keep my smallish area clean.
I'm planning to use the Dynaudios for Music instead (maybe with tubes). Is this a good idea? or should I stick to the dynes and not mind the not so clean/neat look.
Post by: Ctlim on Sep 15, 2008 at 06:18 PM
if you have a space constraint then you might be better off replacing your current speakers. i suggest you keep a pair of 52s or 42s for a 2ch audio set-up next to your polk surroundbar.
Post by: bass_nut on Sep 18, 2008 at 10:41 AM
hi guys!!!
its my first time to be in a forum..
need ur help..
hev anyone tried focus 140 with a jolida jd801a tube amp (70wpc x 2 @ 8ohms)?
im planning to buy one kc. i know that dynes are very good and it
matches my taste as far as sound quality is concern when paired
with a good and powerful amps.
but im just worried if it will sound well with my jolida integrated amp..
PS. hi myki!! tnxs for d sr5500.
hi sir,
i recently listened to dyns focus 140 at LIS Shangri-la Mall... hooked on McIntosh s/s integrated amp 200wpc... i like what i heard... but i approximate these Dyns, like other dyns, will output a bit more when hooked on separates...
i will try these dyns on separates (tube preamp and tube power amps) made by AMXAudio several weeks from now... will see if my "estimate" is correct...
best regards,
fer
Post by: samlowry on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:36 PM
is depends on what you really want to achieve. those are alot of speakers and while still very good models (up to know) you've used them enough na naman to get your moneys worth since 2002 siguro.
if you have a space constraint then you might be better off replacing your current speakers. i suggest you keep a pair of 52s or 42s for a 2ch audio set-up next to your polk surroundbar.
Hello ctlim!
If I leave 2 52s on the front, that would just defeat the purpose of my getting the surroundbar (clean, lean, near invisible speakers entertainment area). I realize that I will have to stick with my current set-up cause it could altleast double as my audio speakers, something the surroundbar can't do, right? (and disposing of my 4 other speakers would be a pain... since prices have gone way up since I got them) I'm just enamored with the surroundbar's high technology and maybe looking for a reason to buy:(
Post by: Ctlim on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:49 PM
hi sir,listened to the same set-up and I liked the output of the gray limited edition audience 52 compared to the focus 140.
i recently listened to dyns focus 140 at LIS Shangri-la Mall... hooked on McIntosh s/s integrated amp 200wpc... i like what i heard... but i approximate these Dyns, like other dyns, will output a bit more when hooked on separates...
i will try these dyns on separates (tube preamp and tube power amps) made by AMXAudio several weeks from now... will see if my "estimate" is correct...
best regards,
fer
Post by: bass_nut on Sep 22, 2008 at 03:56 PM
listened to the same set-up and I liked the output of the gray limited edition audience 52 compared to the focus 140.
oh... thanks for the heads up... i will let LIS fire the Audience 52 on my next visit... ;) :)
from what i observed, their listening sofa was placed way back to more than 1.5meter of the "sweet spot" of Dyns Focus 140... i sat on the floor where the sweet spot was and was satisfied with the output... it will be interesting to listen to these babies on tube preamp/poweramp...
btw, Audience series are truly pleasing considering the price point... when budget permits i might grab me a pair of audience floorstanders...
cheers!!
fer
Post by: ilongranger on Dec 02, 2008 at 04:51 PM
oh... thanks for the heads up... i will let LIS fire the Audience 52 on my next visit... ;) :)
from what i observed, their listening sofa was placed way back to more than 1.5meter of the "sweet spot" of Dyns Focus 140... i sat on the floor where the sweet spot was and was satisfied with the output... it will be interesting to listen to these babies on tube preamp/poweramp...
btw, Audience series are truly pleasing considering the price point... when budget permits i might grab me a pair of audience floorstanders...
cheers!!
fer
hi there. how was your session in LIS. am a happy owner of the focus 110. great bass and musicality and a lot of speaker for the money. you are right though you have to at least place the focus series 3 feet from the wall fpr it to performs its best.
regards
Post by: romymartinez on Jun 06, 2010 at 07:44 PM
Post by: bass_nut on Jun 06, 2010 at 09:14 PM
i was not able to listen to audience 52 when i visited LIS :( .. rather, i was given a chance to listen to a pair of Dynaudio Evidence Temptation for at least an hour.. SQ was superb for my taste 8)
@ sir Romy
i was able to listen to a smallish pair of excite X12 bookshelf type .. mids & higs are very beautiful.. the low frequency notes tight but a bit lacking for my taste.. maybe these pair still needed proper burn-in hours and proper location in a room to up the bass.. or a decent and well integrating sub may complement it well.. YMMV ;)
Post by: Cjtjader on Jun 07, 2010 at 01:28 PM
@ sir Romy
i was able to listen to a smallish pair of excite X12 bookshelf type .. mids & higs are very beautiful.. the low frequency notes tight but a bit lacking for my taste.. maybe these pair still needed proper burn-in hours and proper location in a room to up the bass.. or a decent and well integrating sub may complement it well.. YMMV ;)
+1 Doc Fer! ;)
Post by: bass_nut on Jun 07, 2010 at 01:46 PM
Post by: Cjtjader on Jun 07, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Post by: romymartinez on Jun 07, 2010 at 02:19 PM
Thanks!
Post by: bass_nut on Jun 07, 2010 at 07:06 PM
you are always welcome po ;)
@ sir Cal
C1 confidence series also needed burn-in hours.. bass amount & quality improved to perceivable level from 200 hours of use..the esotar2 tweeters' performance quite remarkable too .. maganda tunog on s/s or tube or hybrid system .. matched sa system mo sir Cal ;)
Post by: Cjtjader on Jun 08, 2010 at 09:33 AM
welcome,sir!
@ sir Cal
C1 confidence series also needed burn-in hours.. bass amount & quality improved to perceivable level from 200 hours of use..the esotar2 tweeters' performance quite remarkable too .. maganda tunog on s/s or tube or hybrid system .. matched sa system mo sir Cal ;)
Doc Fer, I agree with you on the esotar performance!.....hindi nkakapagod ;) ;).......Basta properly driven, be it tube, S/S or hybrid, Dynes will definitely sing!!! ......I'm happy na po with my dynes F/S. But I'll be happier if i have like what you have in your home.....Confidence C1! :D :D :D :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 08, 2010 at 11:53 AM
@ sir Romy
you are always welcome po ;)
@ sir Cal
C1 confidence series also needed burn-in hours.. bass amount & quality improved to perceivable level from 200 hours of use..the esotar2 tweeters' performance quite remarkable too .. maganda tunog on s/s or tube or hybrid system .. matched sa system mo sir Cal ;)
doc fer its been a while, im still around.
yung C1 kahit di ko na patugtugin at connect sa system masaya na ako tisura pa lang panalo na
angeles is like 45 minutes away from my place, pwede bang pumasyal dyan doc :)
Post by: bass_nut on Jun 08, 2010 at 12:52 PM
@romymartinez
welcome,sir!
Doc Fer, I agree with you on the esotar performance!.....hindi nkakapagod ;) ;).......Basta properly driven, be it tube, S/S or hybrid, Dynes will definitely sing!!! ......I'm happy na po with my dynes F/S. But I'll be happier if i have like what you have in your home.....Confidence C1! :D :D :D :D
for my untrained ears all Dyns speakers sing well brother Cal especially when matched with very good source, preamp and power amp and high quality cables (example: Cal's cables) ...hence, i am pretty sure your F/S Dyns are superbly performing too as your system (and room) are very revealing, very capable and very authoritative 8)
doc fer its been a while, im still around.
yung C1 kahit di ko na patugtugin at connect sa system masaya na ako tisura pa lang panalo na
angeles is like 45 minutes away from my place, pwede bang pumasyal dyan doc :)
you are always welcome brother Tirso ;)
Post by: Cjtjader on Jun 08, 2010 at 01:11 PM
for my untrained ears all Dyns speakers sing well brother Cal especially when matched with very good source, preamp and power amp and high quality cables (example: Cal's cables) ..
I agree with you agin, Doc Fer!!!..... Thanks for the ads!! heheheh
.hence, i am pretty sure your F/S Dyns are superbly performing too as your system (and room) are very revealing, very capable and very authoritative 8)
Another satisfied Dynaudio owner here!!! ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: Mr.T.one on Jul 10, 2010 at 10:38 PM
Post by: Cjtjader on Jul 26, 2010 at 11:51 AM
my friends audience 52 sounded good with 50wpc amx kt-88 monoblocs auditioned at kinetic, robinsons pioneer.
+100
I know someone using a 35wpc tube amp and tube pre amp driving a dyne F/S! :) :) :)
Post by: nizmo on Jul 27, 2010 at 01:03 PM
+100
I know someone using a 35wpc tube amp and tube pre amp driving a dyne F/S! :) :) :)
+200
i know that someone ;)
when pre/power amp are properly build and matched
they can make the dyns,bs/fs, sing so well ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Jul 27, 2010 at 06:05 PM
+200
i know that someone ;)
when pre/power amp are properly build and matched
they can make the dyns,bs/fs, sing so well ;D ;D ;D
Hehheheh Nice 1, Fr. Jim! ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 27, 2010 at 09:21 PM
+200
i know that someone ;)
when pre/power amp are properly build and matched
they can make the dyns,bs/fs, sing so well ;D ;D ;D
di ko yata kilala ito ah father jim ;D
Post by: nizmo on Jul 27, 2010 at 10:19 PM
di ko yata kilala ito ah father jim ;D
bubulong ko syo brader Pips pagnagkita tyo ;D ;D ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Jul 27, 2010 at 10:47 PM
i've used 40wpc tube amp on my smallish listening room 23feet X 12feet ..ok naman.. 200wpc s/s amp oks na oks.. 150wpc tube mono block amps.. ok na ok din ;D
cheers !!!
Post by: Cjtjader on Jul 28, 2010 at 08:53 AM
bubulong ko syo brader Pips pagnagkita tyo ;D ;D ;D
Ako na lang po ang magbubulong kay Pips!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Jul 28, 2010 at 08:56 AM
depends on one's taste on volume/loudness and room size/character.. i prefer listening below 85db SPL measured via SPL meter on my listening spot which is approximately 6 feet from a pair of Dyns C1 and 8 feet from a single Dyns sub500.
i've used 40wpc tube amp on my smallish listening room 23feet X 12feet ..ok naman.. 200wpc s/s amp oks na oks.. 150wpc tube mono block amps.. ok na ok din ;D
cheers !!!
+100 Doc Fer!!
Post by: bass_nut on Jul 28, 2010 at 01:06 PM
the advantage (or influence) of a powered sub:
kindly please factor in that i have a self-powered Dyns sub500 (250 watts rms).. we know LF transducer(s) demand a huge amount of power from amp(s).. since the main amp(s) i used for Dyns C1 were just driving for midbass, mids and highs perhaps this made the low 40wpc tube amp adequate for my room and taste (loudness level).
on another side:
a poorly integrated powered sub to the main drivers might unfavorably affect the total SQ ..1) crossover or cut off point character should be considered... we do not want too much dip or bump on the cut off point frequency 2) inherent SQ of the powered sub per se.. a loose LF output might negate a very good total SQ 3) location in a listening room preferred by the sub to function/integrate to its best level 4) other factors i can not recall at the moment ;D
cheers !!!
Post by: Cjtjader on Jul 28, 2010 at 01:22 PM
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4) other factors i can not recall at the moment Grin
Doc, I hope this is not a case of "senior citizen moment"! ;D ;D
Kamusta po ang byahe??
Post by: bass_nut on Jul 28, 2010 at 03:14 PM
LOL !!! looks like senior moments na nga yata kapatid Cal :D ;D
our recent travels were physically tiring pero ok naman... ang masama eh dumarating na ang mga credit card bills !!!.. hahahahaha
Post by: Cjtjader on Aug 03, 2010 at 08:18 AM
LOL !!! looks like senior moments na nga yata kapatid Cal :D ;D
our recent travels were physically tiring pero ok naman... ang masama eh dumarating na ang mga credit card bills !!!.. hahahahaha
Heheheh Nice to hear from you again, Doc Fer!! :)
Post by: Valiente on Jan 29, 2011 at 06:26 AM
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:13 PM
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:09 AM
Post by: Clinton on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:24 AM
Thanks!
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 03, 2011 at 09:28 AM
Listening in Style at 5th floor Shangri-la Mall. I must warn you that Dynaudios can be very habit-inducing vice. I started with an Audience 42, now got Audience 52's and am planning to upgrade to Focus 110. The Audience 42 belongs to the Top 10 Best Speakers list, and stands out as the best value on that list which includes the truly exotic makes with stratospheric prices. It's the affordable entry to true audiophile quality speakers. I have tried a number of other popular speakers brands before, only the Dynes satisfied me - I heard detail that I never realized was there in the music, expansive soundstage and very accurate audio reproduction (the slogan in their box goes - "Danes don't lie.") . The only caveat is that they demand power to bring out the best in them. Truly habit forming, as you can get so impressed with the 42's until you get to hear and then crave for an upgrade for the next one higher in their range, like a drug pusher, hehe. The only speaker brands that I would consider replacing them would be either Sonus Faber or the Focal Berylium.
Sensya na kasi newbie lang. May I know the price ranges of these delights? And can they be driven by a 100w/ch AVRs?
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:37 AM
Post by: cia on Feb 03, 2011 at 11:53 AM
For AVRs make sure of the wpc with all channels driven. I suggest using at least 100wpc to drive Dyns.
Post by: Conan on Feb 03, 2011 at 12:46 PM
Sensya na kasi newbie lang. May I know the price ranges of these delights? And can they be driven by a 100w/ch AVRs?
I think the AVR needs to be 4 ohm capable.
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 03, 2011 at 01:11 PM
I previously had the Dynaudio Contour 1.1 with an Audience 122c for fronts and center being driven by an AVR. I thought I had enough power since my AVR specs said 80 wpc. Little did I know that was the rating with only 2 channels driven. With 5 channels driven, watts came down to something like 40wpc. Obviously my AVR did not have enough power. I changed to a Rotel processor and a Rotel power amp rated at 120wpc all channels driven. Night and day difference in sound quality and volume.
For AVRs make sure of the wpc with all channels driven. I suggest using at least 100wpc to drive Dyns.
I think the AVR needs to be 4 ohm capable.
Yup AVRs are sadly rated for 2ch only. Now every 10w increase in their model line also correspond to 10K increase on their price! :o
for 4ohm speaker capability of AVRs... i have no idea. :(
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 15, 2011 at 05:21 PM
warning lang..if the A models are addictive then you will most definitely like the Contour and lalo na siguro yung Confidence. as you go up the line you will notice that the Dyn "house" sound there but the top end gets to be more refined (the Esotec and Esotar tweeters are to blame here)
Word of warning for the A series though...if partnered with the wrong equipment (specially the amp and cables) the dynamics suddenly become edgy..in short...fatiguing.
Post by: docsialu on Feb 15, 2011 at 06:07 PM
Post by: sgxp on Feb 16, 2011 at 07:50 AM
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 16, 2011 at 07:55 AM
Like ko rin dyns. Pero I made my choice na for life: more midrange, more prat, more music, less headache.
What do you mean? What speakers did you get instead of dyns?
Post by: Conan on Feb 16, 2011 at 09:03 AM
Like ko rin dyns. Pero I made my choice na for life: more midrange, more prat, more music, less headache.
What is PRAT?
Post by: musika on Feb 16, 2011 at 11:15 AM
special 25+mark levinson380s+mark levinson 432
C1+plinius 9200
c4+jadis+vtl 450 mono
Audience72+exposure2010s
this baby sings well but in the end your own taste that will decide. :D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 16, 2011 at 12:39 PM
do you need a big listening area with the dynes? can it be placed near the wall? tnx
hi doc,
Dyns experts will always ask you your room size (and character) before they recommend which Dyns may sing well on said room.
bookshelves are less choosy per my actual use.. my Dyns [Confidence C1 and Dyns self-powered sub500] sing well on large to smallish rooms in our place.. amp output i found satisfying starts at around 70wpc upwards, depending on which room i place these Dyns 2.1 set... tube powered p/p 150wpc mono blocks (for the C1) are very nice match to these very satisfying babies ;)
yep, please be sure that amp(s) can handle 4 ohms load.
cheers !!!
Post by: Stagea on Feb 16, 2011 at 02:06 PM
What is PRAT?
Pace, rythm and timing. :)
Post by: Conan on Feb 16, 2011 at 02:19 PM
Pace, rythm and timing. :)
Thanks! :)
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 17, 2011 at 02:33 PM
Post by: docsialu on Feb 17, 2011 at 03:08 PM
Like ko rin dyns. Pero I made my choice na for life: more midrange, more prat, more music, less headache.
which speakers are these sir, ty
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 17, 2011 at 04:39 PM
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 17, 2011 at 04:43 PM
Can someone post the srp of confidence and contour bs series?
The Confidence C-1 bookshelf was quoted to me (by Listening in Style) at P180,000 last year.
Post by: fattyacid on Feb 17, 2011 at 05:07 PM
Only a Sonus Faber can beat a Dynaudio in its immediate price range (conceding that Sonus is easily 2x the price of their Dynaudio equivalents).
Got to hear an SF bs yesterday and deym, youd thought real instruments are playing in front of you. What would you suggest for bs Dyns for less than 100k? Ive only heard Focus 140. I found it nasal though. Maybe it still needs more break in time.
Post by: sgxp on Feb 17, 2011 at 09:57 PM
which speakers are these sir, tyMaxado mura kakahiya, at dyn thread kaya ito noh. Mas maganda di hamak confidence c2, pero ayoko kasi maxado magaling at magastos na system, di me makaka concentrate nang husto sa musika.
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 18, 2011 at 09:36 AM
Got to hear an SF bs yesterday and deym, youd thought real instruments are playing in front of you. What would you suggest for bs Dyns for less than 100k? Ive only heard Focus 140. I found it nasal though. Maybe it still needs more break in time.
You got that right - Dynes will pale in comparison to Sonus Faber. I was about to suggest a Contour, but we got to audition a Dynaudio Contour floorstander alongside a Sonus Faber Guarneri at Melvin's shop and wow, the difference was night and day. If one hadn't listened to a Sonus Faber, might have been happy with Dynaudio. Nothing compares to SF and it's not fair comparison to place alongside Dynaudio, which in its class, is likewise the best that can be had. Even Dynaudio pays homage to SF in Dynaudio's "Book of Truth" brochure they talk about "For more than three centuries, experts have been trying to discover the secret behind good sounding wooden boxes from Cremona" in apparent reference to SF. So get the best Dynaudio you can afford - and if you have P100k, the Contour it is for you! I myself am getting the next higher in the Dynaudio range, the Focus 110, which should keep me happy until I get to my SF.
Post by: docsialu on Feb 18, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Maxado mura kakahiya, at dyn thread kaya ito noh. Mas maganda di hamak confidence c2, pero ayoko kasi maxado magaling at magastos na system, di me makaka concentrate nang husto sa musika.
tnx sir, pm mo na lang sakin, baka makatulong sa paghahanap ko ng speakers, ty
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 18, 2011 at 11:04 AM
tnx sir, pm mo na lang sakin, baka makatulong sa paghahanap ko ng speakers, ty
I find the following very good cost effective alternatives to the expensive brands (in my ranked order):
* Anthony's A-Audio creations: I have his Proac version
* Monitor Audio BX2
* Mission MX1 (comparable to the old 77/78 series, which I had)
* Tannoy Mercury (reincarnation of the old Mercury series which I still have)
Post by: cia on Feb 18, 2011 at 01:54 PM
Even Dynaudio pays homage to SF in Dynaudio's "Book of Truth" brochure they talk about "For more than three centuries, experts have been trying to discover the secret behind good sounding wooden boxes from Cremona" in apparent reference to SF.
Just to clarify the above quote from the Book of Truth, the reference to good sounding boxes were the Stradivarious violin and not the Sonus Faber which came into existence in 1983.
Comparing the Dynaudio Contour to the SF Guarneri may not be fair as the latter is double the price of the former and one is floorstander and the other is BS.
Post by: Mr.T.one on Feb 18, 2011 at 06:53 PM
You got that right - Dynes will pale in comparison to Sonus Faber. I was about to suggest a Contour, but we got to audition a Dynaudio Contour floorstander alongside a Sonus Faber Guarneri at Melvin's shop and wow, the difference was night and day. If one hadn't listened to a Sonus Faber, might have been happy with Dynaudio. Nothing compares to SF and it's not fair comparison to place alongside Dynaudio, which in its class, is likewise the best that can be had. Even Dynaudio pays homage to SF in Dynaudio's "Book of Truth" brochure they talk about "For more than three centuries, experts have been trying to discover the secret behind good sounding wooden boxes from Cremona" in apparent reference to SF. So get the best Dynaudio you can afford - and if you have P100k, the Contour it is for you! I myself am getting the next higher in the Dynaudio range, the Focus 110, which should keep me happy until I get to my SF.dynaudios statement was in reference to the violin makers of cremona, not sonus faber. sonus fabers baffle design philosophy is based on the dynamics of the musical instrument thereby implying an addition (some refer to as coloration) to the total fabric of sound. other manufacturers prefer their baffle to be as neutral as possible. take for example a resonant audionote baffle compared to a dead wilson audio box.
its not accurate to say dyn pales in comparison to sf bec youre comparing apples with oranges. that sf you auditioned is several times the price of the dyn. also, sonus faber does not manufacture its own drivers or raw speakers. it buys from vifa, scanspeak, seas, etc. and surprise, surprise from dynaudio! sf used the legendary dynaudio esotar tweeter in its monster maxima bookshelf. so in your next audition, check out the drivers, you maybe comparing dyn with dyn...! ???
btw, if you want a reasonably priced sf, you can browse wiredstate and look for edwin. hes selling pre owned sf shipped from singapore to your doorstep. i think you can also find him here at pdvd. happy listening!
Post by: richardcruz on Feb 19, 2011 at 06:28 AM
Post by: fattyacid on Mar 30, 2011 at 03:38 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Mar 30, 2011 at 07:11 PM
Post by: 6l6 on Mar 30, 2011 at 11:45 PM
Post by: timber715 on Mar 31, 2011 at 12:56 AM
I heard tinalo daw ng Dynaudio yung Harbeth kasi Dynaudio na daw gamit ng BBC, hindi na Harbeth.I actually love the sound of the dynes, especially the one fr. Jim has (contour 3.3 iirc) very natural. It has been for a long time the sound I have been looking for, and my go to reference for a good sounding speakers. Until I heard the harbeth and fell in love with her ;D.
Not sure if BBC changed their reference speakers from Harbs to Dynes, but from where I am, you can't go wrong with either... (as long as they are matched to the system of course)...
Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 31, 2011 at 03:45 AM
* Tannoy Mercury (reincarnation of the old Mercury series which I still have)
Are these still made in the UK?
Sorry for being OT.
Post by: fattyacid on Mar 31, 2011 at 09:10 AM
Post by: sgxp on Mar 31, 2011 at 09:29 AM
Post by: muypogi on Mar 31, 2011 at 09:33 AM
Anybody here heard the Excite bookshelves? How are they?
Heard them when I bought my Audience 42s during the sale of LIS. Had them hooked up to the same amp and setup. The Excite equivalent of the Audience 42s sounded very similar to the Audience. So, I took home the Audience, saving $$$ in the process.
I read the Excites are now easier to drive, but have not tested them to find out.
Post by: synchro_01 on Apr 04, 2011 at 01:18 PM
I heard tinalo daw ng Dynaudio yung Harbeth kasi Dynaudio na daw gamit ng BBC, hindi na Harbeth.
Dyn pro (BM and AIR) are now the ones used by the BBC. Nobody knows how they come up with their "official" monitor selection but the models they have used before like Rodgers, KEF, Harbeth, Celestion have become classics and command a breath taking price in the market. try looking for a second hand Rodgers LS and you will cringe at the asking price. Just because it was being replaced by another brand doesnt mean that it was outdated nor outperformed.
Post by: sgxp on Apr 04, 2011 at 02:07 PM
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Pls enlighten me mga gurus. thank you! :)
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Post by: carb0n on Aug 17, 2011 at 04:53 PM
Anyone here knows how much is the DM 2/6, MC15, or Special 25?
Post by: musika on Aug 17, 2011 at 09:46 PM
Just to clarify the above quote from the Book of Truth, the reference to good sounding boxes were the Stradivarious violin and not the Sonus Faber which came into existence in 1983.
Comparing the Dynaudio Contour to the SF Guarneri may not be fair as the latter is double the price of the former and one is floorstander and the other is BS.
+1
Post by: cia on Aug 20, 2011 at 12:09 PM
i would like to revive this thread.
Anyone here knows how much is the DM 2/6, MC15, or Special 25?
Call Listening in Style Shangrila 632-9345.
Post by: Kettch on Aug 26, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Post by: Mr.T.one on Oct 09, 2011 at 11:32 AM
Post by: dieselsy on Oct 09, 2011 at 01:44 PM
Post by: ricky on Oct 09, 2011 at 02:29 PM
Proceed hpa 250 watts x3 at 8 ohms and 500 watts x3 per chan at 4ohms driving my c2 fronts and contour center.
Yeah baby the more power the better talaga. ;)
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 10, 2011 at 06:48 PM
ADCOM GFA6000: 225 watts @ 4 ohms/channel powering my Audience center.
Post by: cia on Oct 11, 2011 at 07:08 AM
Audience 122c driven by Rotel RMB1075, 120wpc.
Post by: armymanhaha on Oct 29, 2011 at 09:45 PM
Post by: [joms] on Jan 14, 2012 at 12:08 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 14, 2012 at 02:17 PM
Post by: muypogi on Jan 14, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Another question although mukhang patay na tong thread. Malaki ba pinagkaiba ng sonic qualities ng Dynaudio Audience 42 sa Excite X12? Currently have the 42s but thinking of purchasing the X12. May nakapag A/B test na ba?
Yup. Ako. Imho very little difference since the x12 are replacements for the 42. If you want a big difference get the higher focus series. Parang may binebentang murang focus 110 dito.
Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 14, 2012 at 05:34 PM
kaya na bang i drive ng onkyo 609 yung mga audience 40/42/52 and the newer dyns?
Kaya sir. We have a small set up that uses an Onkyo AVR powering A50s, A42C in the front and A42s in the rear plus a 12 inch Dyn sub. The room is around 18ft x 12ft x 8ft and the set up can fill it with sound. The newer Dynes are a much easier load to AVRs (excite)
Post by: Billabong on Jan 15, 2012 at 03:16 AM
Another question although mukhang patay na tong thread. Malaki ba pinagkaiba ng sonic qualities ng Dynaudio Audience 42 sa Excite X12? Currently have the 42s but thinking of purchasing the X12. May nakapag A/B test na ba?
If I may ask, what equipments (amp, source, cables..etc) are you using with the Audience 42?
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 15, 2012 at 04:41 AM
If I may ask, what equipments (amp, source, cables..etc) are you using with the Audience 42?
This is for my PC setup so here it is:
Amp: Yaqin VK2100 (Sir ivan says this one's a prototype for the VK2200 which uses 12 series tubes. Mine does)
Source: Muse Mini DAC MK2 Outboard soundcard with upgraded opamps and caps
Cables: Generic shielded chinese IC and 16awg copper wires (Not a big believer in cables to be honest)
Planning to upgrade my amp to a Rotel 15 series although konting ipon pa. Maybe by March. I've been talking to sir muypogi about the right amp to use and I've narrowed it down to this one, or the Roksan K2 which is FS in the marketplace.
Post by: muypogi on Jan 15, 2012 at 07:02 AM
This is for my PC setup so here it is:
Amp: Yaqin VK2100 (Sir ivan says this one's a prototype for the VK2200 which uses 12 series tubes. Mine does)
Source: Muse Mini DAC MK2 Outboard soundcard with upgraded opamps and caps
Cables: Generic shielded chinese IC and 16awg copper wires (Not a big believer in cables to be honest)
Planning to upgrade my amp to a Rotel 15 series although konting ipon pa. Maybe by March. I've been talking to sir muypogi about the right amp to use and I've narrowed it down to this one, or the Roksan K2 which is FS in the marketplace.
Hmmmm looking at your entire setup now i can possibly recommend:
1) upgrade your DAC, to possibly the Musical Fidelity V-DAC mk 2 which also has USB in.
2) Try using lossless files or at the very least 320kbps compressed files. You may find upping your digital file quality is a more audible upgrade from just upgrading equipment.
3) I'd recommend a cheap upgrade on the cables: use 14awg and basic gold plated banana plugs and RCA interconnects using mic cable na custom assembled.
All tweaks are much cheaper vs changing amps or speakers. Pigain muna natin yung potential ng setup mo. Medyo madugo Rotel 15 series or the Kandy.
Post by: Billabong on Jan 15, 2012 at 09:40 AM
This is for my PC setup so here it is:
Amp: Yaqin VK2100 (Sir ivan says this one's a prototype for the VK2200 which uses 12 series tubes. Mine does)
Source: Muse Mini DAC MK2 Outboard soundcard with upgraded opamps and caps
Cables: Generic shielded chinese IC and 16awg copper wires (Not a big believer in cables to be honest)
Planning to upgrade my amp to a Rotel 15 series although konting ipon pa. Maybe by March. I've been talking to sir muypogi about the right amp to use and I've narrowed it down to this one, or the Roksan K2 which is FS in the marketplace.
Thanks for sharing. How do you find the sound now? Ano feeling mo ang kulang or anong aspect ang gusto mo ma-improve? I agree with muypogi na try mo muna i-max out ang ang potential niyan with tweaks or simple upgrades. ;)
Post by: armymanhaha on Jan 15, 2012 at 01:38 PM
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Post by: lynxrs11111 on Jan 15, 2012 at 04:29 PM
so true. I got my Dyns (Mobile) from Jeff at listening froup 1995..cost was 50% less than what they are sellng for now!! The thing with them is that you need a very very powerful amp to make them sing..once they do..ANG SARAP!!!Plus one here, would you believe that once in car audio scene all the account broking prices brand of speaker was just a runner up to a TARGA setup.
ya i agree with using a powerful amp to drive them. sana i could build my system on a car soon with all dynaudios.. hehe..
xXx
but with the price of the DYN sub, you can get other brands which would perform better
Post by: Stagea on Jan 15, 2012 at 04:39 PM
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.Billabong is the Dynaudio god. He should be able to guide you with getting the sound that you want out of your speakers.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
He's dialed-in enough liveliness out of his Dynes to warrant some head scratching from the experts. :)
As for the replacement DAC, MF might not be the right direction if you want a lively sound. They have a smooth and mellow presentation, for the most part.
Plus one here, would you believe that once in car audio scene all the account broking prices brand of speaker was just a runner up to a TARGA setup.
Hindi po kaya sa isang class ng isang competition, at hindi sa buong scene?
Are you referring to Ferdie's Vios? If so, then yes it was a very good build for a Targa setup. Mostly sa cabin treatment at mounting ginamit ang budget doon.
Post by: muypogi on Jan 15, 2012 at 05:48 PM
Plus one here, would you believe that once in car audio scene all the account broking prices brand of speaker was just a runner up to a TARGA setup.
Depende sa system synergy din and setup nung sounds. Mas mahirap gumawa ng car setup vs living room setup. You have to take the inherent vibrations and acoustics inside the car, lalo na pag SQ (sound quality) yung setup. Pag SPL palakasan lang talaga yan. . . yung iba naka brace na yung windows kasi sobrang lakas yung bayo. . .
Graduate na ko sa boom boom sa car audio, which was a fun phase while it lasted . . . SQ lang (without sub) kasi may pamilya na. . . may video system nga lang to quiet down the kids. . . ;D
Post by: muypogi on Jan 15, 2012 at 05:52 PM
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Have you benchmarked your system to something or a setup that you want to sound close to? Mahirap ma-pin down yung 'liveliness" if you don't have a reference sound. . .
I listen to varied genres, so I've tried to optimise my system to be as flexible as possible, within reasonable bounds. If you're ever in Marikina, you're welcome to listen to my setup, to help you establish the "sound" you may be looking for.
Post by: lynxrs11111 on Jan 15, 2012 at 10:29 PM
Billabong is the Dynaudio god. He should be able to guide you with getting the sound that you want out of your speakers.then it justify na its not the brand youre using its how you setup your system whether its mounting or cabin treatment it all goes down to proper setup and how you aim and position your components and how will you use your components
He's dialed-in enough liveliness out of his Dynes to warrant some head scratching from the experts. :)
As for the replacement DAC, MF might not be the right direction if you want a lively sound. They have a smooth and mellow presentation, for the most part.
Hindi po kaya sa isang class ng isang competition, at hindi sa buong scene?
Are you referring to Ferdie's Vios? If so, then yes it was a very good build for a Targa setup. Mostly sa cabin treatment at mounting ginamit ang budget doon.
Post by: lynxrs11111 on Jan 15, 2012 at 10:36 PM
Depende sa system synergy din and setup nung sounds. Mas mahirap gumawa ng car setup vs living room setup. You have to take the inherent vibrations and acoustics inside the car, lalo na pag SQ (sound quality) yung setup. Pag SPL palakasan lang talaga yan. . . yung iba naka brace na yung windows kasi sobrang lakas yung bayo. . .almost all car audio enthusiast wants to achieve the kind of sound a ht/music setup can produce because the components used in ht/music application is naka enclosed sa fixed box and in a separate box not like in car audio wherein the whole car is working like a box
Graduate na ko sa boom boom sa car audio, which was a fun phase while it lasted . . . SQ lang (without sub) kasi may pamilya na. . . may video system nga lang to quiet down the kids. . . ;D
Post by: Billabong on Jan 16, 2012 at 02:04 AM
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
Upgrading to a better and more powerful amp would help. Changing your DAC will also have a big impact on the overall sound. In the mean time, try cable rolling. It's possible to get a livelier sound with the right cables. Mag-experiment ka rin pala sa toe-in ng speakers. Every little bit helps. It worked for me but YMMV. :)
Post by: R on Jan 24, 2012 at 12:08 AM
I'm into nearfield listening since I just listen 1m away.
Why Dynaudio? Since they're well-respected in the industry. Actually, I'm more of a Focal-kind of guy since I really love their sound signature but I'd shudder with regards to the price. After hearing my brother's McIntosh-Dynaudio Confidence C4, I'm pretty sold on them.
EDITED: Dynaudio Confidence C4 pala NOT Evidence.. ang mahal nun :O
Post by: muypogi on Jan 24, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Any suggested amplifiers to pair with the Audience 42? My plan for home audio is somewhat like armymanhaha's system where the PC is the source. Actually, I originally wanted a Yaqin MC10-L paired with Polk RTi A4s, but right now I'm pretty convinced of expanding my budget and purchasing Dyns instead (probably secondhand ;))
I'm into nearfield listening since I just listen 1m away.
Why Dynaudio? Since they're well-respected in the industry. Actually, I'm more of a Focal-kind of guy since I really love their sound signature but I'd shudder with regards to the price. After hearing my brother's McIntosh-Dynaudio Evidence Temptation, I'm pretty sold on them.
Baka iba experience ng iba, pero imho Dyns are not that particularly suited to nearfield listening, as these speakers need to be cranked up a bit to show their fullest potential, unless you like to listen near and loud, or you can compensate with properly implemented tone controls.
Post by: R on Jan 24, 2012 at 02:39 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jan 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM
Coming from audio set-up, and now a bedroom theater I might say that malabong matalo mga dyna's kung sa ht lang...the exite series lang with good processors, it can be compared to any brand at its entry level/price range... malayo mga sir...nothing comes close to the mid and highs of DYNA Audio, I have heard it all..all top gears... and i could attest to this statement. ;) ;) ;) ;)
john
Post by: R on Jan 26, 2012 at 12:43 PM
I've also auditioned the Focal floorstanders in Shang, it has that classic Focal sound. Very crisp but lacking somewhat in the lower midrange. I would also like to point out that the room is untreated except for a rug versus LiS theatre room.
Coming from the X16s, the bass of the X12 was a bit underwhelming. But since I plan to position this near a wall (8-10cm away lang siya), I think that should do the trick... fingers crossed it doesn't sound too boomy for my taste.
As for my choice of amplifiers, there's really two: NAD C356BEE or the CA 650A Azur. I'd probably go for the CA due to the NAD's 10k additional price difference thanks to the sale of 5th Avenue ;). Any comments between these two amplifiers?
Post by: richardcruz on Jan 26, 2012 at 01:09 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jan 26, 2012 at 02:09 PM
Listened to a pair of Dynaudio Excite X16 yesterday as well as the X12. However, may konting sira yun X12 hence playing anything with it would produce audible distortion.. but disregarding the distortion, yep... definitely sold na ako sa Dyns.
I've also auditioned the Focal floorstanders in Shang, it has that classic Focal sound. Very crisp but lacking somewhat in the lower midrange. I would also like to point out that the room is untreated except for a rug versus LiS theatre room.
Coming from the X16s, the bass of the X12 was a bit underwhelming. But since I plan to position this near a wall (8-10cm away lang siya), I think that should do the trick... fingers crossed it doesn't sound too boomy for my taste.
As for my choice of amplifiers, there's really two: NAD C356BEE or the CA 650A Azur. I'd probably go for the CA due to the NAD's 10k additional price difference thanks to the sale of 5th Avenue ;). Any comments between these two amplifiers?
Dre during the launching ng Olive Server...x-12 lang ginamit ayos na... i suggest palabas mo sa theater room yun speakers and pa set-up mo sa harap ng table ni JR.. you will be surprise na kaya punuin ng x-12 yun buong area...lahat nga kami hindi makapaniwala hehehehe
Sa theater room ng L.I.S. mahirap palabasin ang bass dun kahit yun malalaking speakers ang nakakabit hirap, because of the acoustic treatment may konting mali...fyi
Post by: R on Jan 26, 2012 at 11:59 PM
As for their 5.7" midbass driver, I'd say that it really impressed me. I actually wanted a bigger driver for better low-end extension, but after hearing these play I've resolved that I wouldn't mind the less bass onwards. I don't really play bass tracks on the premise that my room's untreated.. and if I start playing Usher in the middle of the night on my "regular" volume, I expect my sisters next door to start banging on my door when the first bass notes hit :(
I'll be pairing these with Cambridge Audio's DacMagicPlus and 650A integrated amplifier. I figured they should pair well on the premise of better vocal articulation and I find it hard to justify the additional 50% jump in price for the NAD C356BEE. The 650A should have around 110W @ 4ohms so it satisfies the Dyn's hunger.
Now I'm thinking of speaker stands and wiring. Personally, if I tell my parents I just plonked down 10k for a pair of speaker stands, they'll kill me ;D so I wonder whether getting it is really worth it. And the wires... I guess it's time to ask for JR's opinion for them also. Any suggestions?
Note: The "upgrade bug" is very much real. Once again my budget doubled for 'simple' home hi-fi ::)
Post by: Stagea on Jan 27, 2012 at 07:32 AM
nothing comes close to the mid and highs of DYNA Audio, I have heard it all..all top gears... and i could attest to this statement. ;) ;) ;) ;)
john
Aling mga top gears po yun sir? Ano po masasabi niyo dun sa mga ibang narinig niyo na yun?
Post by: synchro_01 on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Now I'm thinking of speaker stands and wiring. Personally, if I tell my parents I just plonked down 10k for a pair of speaker stands, they'll kill me ;D so I wonder whether getting it is really worth it. And the wires... I guess it's time to ask for JR's opinion for them also. Any suggestions?
Note: The "upgrade bug" is very much real. Once again my budget doubled for 'simple' home hi-fi ::)
Stands: any metal stand that is sand filled and can provide a good base would suffice. No need to buy the original Dyne stand anymore. Lovan comes to mind as a good substitute.
Wires: Dynes work well with VDH though JR might push the Audience line for you to buy. VDH as to my knowledge is currently not locally sold by a distributor here in the Phil.
Post by: muscleboy on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:13 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Feb 05, 2012 at 12:10 PM
Sir, inupgrade ko na yung DAC ko to V-DAC mk2. Huge difference, music is just more more enjoyable now. Thanks for the very helpful suggestion guys. ;)
Post by: romymartinez on Feb 05, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Saan nyo nabili MF DAC mk2 Sir? and how much?
Post by: muypogi on Feb 05, 2012 at 06:17 PM
@muypogi
Sir, inupgrade ko na yung DAC ko to V-DAC mk2. Huge difference, music is just more more enjoyable now. Thanks for the very helpful suggestion guys. ;)
Ayus! The Dyns respond well to system upgrades. If you get the itch once more, change your amps naman, and the Dyns will showcase the system improvement. . .
Enjoy . . . until the next inevitable upgrade . . . hehe. ::)
Post by: parker on Feb 05, 2012 at 07:19 PM
I find the sound fulfilling actually. Its just that, I want more power. I want more 'liveliness'.
No issues with the files. I only play FLAC and APE files here so compression thingy is not that big of an issue, I believe.
Well, sure thing. I could probably do an upgrade for my cables. I know my system deserves one. Currently on the process of selling the DAC now. Bahala na kung ano ipapalit ko hehe. Wala pa kasing reply sakin yung distro ng V-DAC mk2. But there will still be an amplifier upgrade coming in June because I really want it ;D For future proofing na din sana Just in case I upgrade my speaks.
I really appreciate the help guys. Thanks.
have you considered other speaks? the ones with more.... liveliness/power. maybe cheaper.
amplifier upgrade...match with your speaks....personal sound preference. otherwise your in for the circle game.
Post by: timber715 on Feb 06, 2012 at 01:53 PM
must you upgrade you can try Har... hanother brand or model ;D that is easier to drive... but do consider room treatment before anything :) Dynes are great sounding speakers as they are already....
Post by: anchit on Feb 12, 2012 at 06:01 PM
Post by: edwin on Feb 12, 2012 at 06:25 PM
what's the best preowned Danes na FS na swak sa 50k?:)
Old models i could think of are the Contour 1.3se or the cheaper 1.1.
Post by: anchit on Feb 12, 2012 at 08:30 PM
Old models i could think of are the Contour 1.3se or the cheaper 1.1.
thanks sir! looks like kelangan pa mag imponderable:)
Post by: Cjtjader on Feb 12, 2012 at 08:44 PM
what's the best preowned Danes na FS na swak sa 50k?:)
Enjoy mo muna si Dyna42....tsk tsk tsk :-X :-X :-X ;)
Post by: anchit on Feb 13, 2012 at 06:31 AM
thanks sir! looks like kelangan pa mag imponderable:)
got auto corrected, ;D ipon. i mean
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 20, 2012 at 09:03 PM
the very pleasing SQ will stick in my mind for a very loooong time !! 8)
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 18, 2012 at 05:16 AM
Post by: muypogi on Jun 18, 2012 at 05:29 AM
anyone here knows where i can get a used focus 110/140? any opinions on the X12/X16?
If you want an upgrade from your Audience 42s, get the Focus series, as the X12 = A42 and X16 = A52 . . .
Post by: louiep on Jun 18, 2012 at 08:14 PM
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 19, 2012 at 05:00 AM
Post by: louiep on Jun 19, 2012 at 12:50 PM
thanks guys. really thinking bout the focus 160s, pero makukuha ko lang yun by december due to money constraints. i guess i'll just have to wait for the 110/140 to pop up in the marketplace :(
Go for the focus 160! With modifications and enhancements should sound much better than the 140. :)
Post by: R on Jun 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM
Post by: whirlpool on Aug 01, 2012 at 09:33 PM
Personal taste, I auditioned the Focus 110 ACTIVE before and I would say I'd pick the Excite X12 over it given a comparable integrated amplifier. Watt is watt ;) the Danes still respond happily to more power.
Sir, any idea about the performance of Excite X16? How much po kaya ang price? Thanks :)
Post by: R on Aug 02, 2012 at 05:15 PM
Sir, any idea about the performance of Excite X16? How much po kaya ang price? Thanks :)
Excite X16 was last priced at around 61,600 I believe. You further discount that after some happy haggling :D
As for the sound, I didn't go for the X16 due to the price difference of around 16k from the X12. During my first audition, JR didn't have the X12 available so I listened to the X16 at first.. but I couldn't justify spending 16k for a few hertz more on the low-end. If you're seeking for midrange purity, give the X12 a try first before the X16 but if you're leaning more on bassy tracks, give the X16 a go first.
At the end of the day, audition both and see what you'll go with.
Post by: whirlpool on Aug 03, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Excite X16 was last priced at around 61,600 I believe. You further discount that after some happy haggling :D
As for the sound, I didn't go for the X16 due to the price difference of around 16k from the X12. During my first audition, JR didn't have the X12 available so I listened to the X16 at first.. but I couldn't justify spending 16k for a few hertz more on the low-end. If you're seeking for midrange purity, give the X12 a try first before the X16 but if you're leaning more on bassy tracks, give the X16 a go first.
At the end of the day, audition both and see what you'll go with.
Thanks for your input sir jhnkvn. Me and my friends are going to ShangriLa this coming Sunday to audition the X16 & X12 (sana wala ng bagyo). The next week after we're going to glorietta5 to listen with Dali Ikon MKII. Hopefully by the end of the year sapat na savings ko or else magbenta ako old speakers.
If possible, could you pm me the maximum (%) discount JR are offering.
Thanks again :)
Post by: odyopayl on Aug 03, 2012 at 06:57 PM
auditioned a pair of Dynaudio Confidence C4 a few hours ago at LIS Shangri-la Mall..Doc, basta ako your C1 is my BS Benchmark....Makes me dream of having one too!!! ;)
the very pleasing SQ will stick in my mind for a very loooong time !! 8)
Post by: bass_nut on Aug 04, 2012 at 02:59 AM
i estimate it will match well with the new and powerful power amp ;)
http://www.dynaudio.com/int/home_loudspeaker_systems/confidence/confidence_c2.php
Post by: odyopayl on Aug 07, 2012 at 05:28 PM
thanks, brother June. sana ma-audition din natin ang Dyns C2 mkII.. at maiuwi sa bahay kung sakaling magkaroon na ng budget :DDoc no need to audition it, we love the little sister C1 how come with the Big Brother C2? Take it home Doc para Pre-amp na lang :o......................Statement!!!!!!
i estimate it will match well with the new and powerful power amp ;)
http://www.dynaudio.com/int/home_loudspeaker_systems/confidence/confidence_c2.php
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Aug 12, 2012 at 11:34 PM
Got to see, feel and hear the Contour 1.4, Excite x16, Special 25, Confidence C1 paired to a Krell pre/power amp with the dCS Puccini CDP as the source
But its the Special 25 bolted to the #4 stands that tickled my fancy
Probably when I grow up I'll eventually be able to afford it LOL =)
Post by: Cjtjader on Aug 16, 2012 at 06:28 PM
Since I was in the neighborhood of shangrila mall, I decided to go to LIS, met JR and got whisked away to the dyne dungeon.
Got to see, feel and hear the Contour 1.4, Excite x16, Special 25, Confidence C1 paired to a Krell pre/power amp with the dCS Puccini CDP as the source
But its the Special 25 bolted to the #4 stands that tickled my fancy
Probably when I grow up I'll eventually be able to afford it LOL =)
A pair of Excite12 would be a good start! ;)
Post by: Digities on Aug 17, 2012 at 07:46 AM
Post by: jake052478 on Oct 08, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Post by: qguy on Oct 23, 2012 at 09:55 AM
Post by: edwin on Oct 23, 2012 at 09:59 AM
What is the basic difference ng Contour and Audience ?
Refinement and Musical Involvement.
Post by: qguy on Oct 23, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Contour = Refinement
audience = Musical Involvement
Refinement and Musical Involvement.
Post by: bass_nut on Oct 23, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Doc no need to audition it, we love the little sister C1 how come with the Big Brother C2? Take it home Doc para Pre-amp na lang :o......................Statement!!!!!!
update:
brother June, a pair of dynaudio C1 and a dynaudio sub500 like very much the newly added dual mono class A vacuum tube preamp .. powered by a hefty dual mono class A s/s power amp =>
majestic SQ (per our ears) 8)
Post by: resident_evil on Oct 23, 2012 at 10:16 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 24, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Refinement and Musical Involvement.
Precisely. Audience series is mainly designed for the HT environment however it is very good for music as well while the Contours' forte is primarily music but just the same it can double duty in HT. having owned both I can say that the Contours advantage is like what Edwin said...refinement and musicality.
Post by: qguy on Oct 24, 2012 at 11:24 AM
Precisely. Audience series is mainly designed for the HT environment however it is very good for music as well while the Contours' forte is primarily music but just the same it can double duty in HT. having owned both I can say that the Contours advantage is like what Edwin said...refinement and musicality.
Post by: Cjtjader on Oct 24, 2012 at 12:01 PM
Ok thanks.. may refinement na ako at musicality in my Usher X-719, I need Detail and Slam for a different flavor, i guess it should be Audience hehehe mas mura pa !!!
Hi Benjie!
Try to audition and start with Excite16, i'm confident you will find the different flavor you are looking!:-)
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 24, 2012 at 01:22 PM
Hi Benjie!
Try to audition and start with Excite16, i'm confident you will find the different flavor you are looking!:-)
if slam and detail is what you want then either of the Excite or Audience series will fit the bill. Partner well with good electronics and cables otherwise it may end up slightly fatiguing due to it's clinical nature.
Post by: fattyacid on Oct 24, 2012 at 03:56 PM
Has anyone auditioned the Focus 260?
Esotec pa rin ba ang tweeters ng latest Focus lineup?
Post by: resident_evil on Oct 25, 2012 at 01:15 AM
Ok thanks.. may refinement na ako at musicality in my Usher X-719, I need Detail and Slam for a different flavor, i guess it should be Audience hehehe mas mura pa !!!
I have the Audience 72 SE and it has the slam that I look for when needed in music. I don't use it for HT. I'm wondering if an upgrade to the Focus 260 will be worth it considering the price.
Post by: Cjtjader on Oct 25, 2012 at 11:40 AM
I have the Audience 72 SE and it has the slam that I look for when needed in music. I don't use it for HT. I'm wondering if an upgrade to the Focus 260 will be worth it considering the price.
Just want to share this.....
http://www.wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=23864&hilit=Dynaudio+Focus+140&start=20 (http://www.wiredstate.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=23864&hilit=Dynaudio+Focus+140&start=20)
But for me Focus 260 is definitely a major upgrade... ;) Goodluck! :)
Post by: resident_evil on Oct 25, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Post by: Stagea on Nov 08, 2012 at 07:08 AM
(http://www.audiostream.com/images/101612xeo.jpg)
(http://www.eteraudio.pl/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Xeo-+-EISA.jpg)
Post by: synchro_01 on Dec 30, 2012 at 10:31 PM
They are the ones that will greet the new year in my house playing full tilt.... ;D
Happy New Year PDVD
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 11, 2013 at 02:09 AM
I have the Audience 72 SE and it has the slam that I look for when needed in music. I don't use it for HT. I'm wondering if an upgrade to the Focus 260 will be worth it considering the price.
atty ..... hinahanap ka na ng focus 260 hehehehe
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 11, 2013 at 02:58 AM
atty ..... hinahanap ka na ng focus 260 heheheheSir, I suggest mag contour series ka na, konti na lang diperensya and mas maganda...
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 12, 2013 at 01:49 PM
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1281444290&read&keyw&zzdynaudio+c4+mkii+
http://www.head-fi.org/t/468882/b-w-diamond-series-loudspeakers-diamond-tweeter/15
Also from Audiogon Dynaudio reviews/forum...
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr_srch.pl?cspkr&1&procsrch&3&4&
Cheers....
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 16, 2013 at 10:22 PM
dynaudio audience 42
very dynamic and for a tiny little speakers malalim magbass
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Jun 16, 2013 at 10:53 PM
sa wakas naka experience din ng dynes...pinaka entry level lang...hihihi.. .
dynaudio audience 42
very dynamic and for a tiny little speakers malalim magbass
You're the man!!! Congrats sis!
Pitchur naman ^-^
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 16, 2013 at 11:03 PM
You're the man!!! Congrats sis!ang dilim kasi dito sa sala hehe..
Pitchur naman ^-^
alam mo naman na ang IP5 olats sa night shots hehe...
tomorrow pic ko na talaga
Post by: tumbler on Jul 30, 2013 at 08:39 PM
Meron ba kayong alam kung sino nagbebenta ng Dynaudio 72SE or Contour 1.8 MK2 in mint Condition? I love the sound of those 2 speakers tnx for the reply if any? ;)
Post by: synchro_01 on Jul 31, 2013 at 03:03 PM
Hi Guys,
Meron ba kayong alam kung sino nagbebenta ng Dynaudio 72SE or Contour 1.8 MK2 in mint Condition? I love the sound of those 2 speakers tnx for the reply if any? ;)
I do have the 1.8MKII for approximately 7 years already however I don't have any plans of getting rid of it. LIS might have a traded in model. give them a try.
Post by: tumbler on Jul 31, 2013 at 08:09 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Sep 02, 2013 at 01:32 PM
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.5006335242472189&pid=15.1)
(http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4868574179231449&pid=15.1)
(http://www.hometheater.com/images/dyn.jpg?1282071867)
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=H.4868574179231448&pid=15.1)
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dynaudio2/dm.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7POM4HAop4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4m3p-nYvS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rpu6KZMQpO4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8Ck8UzCOE
Post by: theblue on Sep 21, 2013 at 05:34 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 21, 2013 at 06:39 PM
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.
What size is the room? What do you think is lacking? Low frequency kick? SPL? Top end?
Post by: timber715 on Sep 21, 2013 at 08:59 PM
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.Amps.... Give them dedicated amps with lots of juice.
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 21, 2013 at 09:30 PM
And also, here's the most recent evolution of the Audience 40 :D
http://www.dynaudio.com/int/home_loudspeaker_systems/excite/excite_x14.php
Post by: theblue on Sep 22, 2013 at 07:59 AM
What size is the room? What do you think is lacking? Low frequency kick? SPL? Top end?
Hi sir, SPL is fine for me. Lower frequency is something I couldn't complain about because my dynes are small bookshelf speakers compared to my Yamaha ns-777. My setup is just in my living room. I'm trying to achieve a-b configuration wherein my multichannel is the Yamaha NS speakers and the stereo/pure direct sound is on b (dynes). The house is a loft type so I have a very high ceiling above my sala. I just heard a small room setup of my friend that has rega amp, hf dac, with only B&W dm303 and I find the sound amazing. It felt like I was the one playing the guitar.
I guess I'm not giving the dynes justice by not giving it a tube amp/dedicated dac? Maybe the very large untreated room size?
Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 22, 2013 at 09:34 AM
I've done so many matches with my A40's as well based on a medium sized room and I found out that a 125 watts per channel amp @4 ohms WITH high current capability meaning it can still double at 2 ohms is precisely the ticket to make this small jewel shine in its true glory.
If you are in my area (South) you can bring your Dynes over and we can hook it up to a 200w per channel high current amp and you will see the difference.
Post by: edwin on Sep 22, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Let's put things in perspective first...the A40's will never be on the same level as the NS777 in terms of sheer bass weight and SPL. That deficiency is probably what you are noticing when you switch from A to B. To begin with the specs of the NS777 suits your Denon receiver very well but OTOH the A40's will need more. More not in the sense of more wattage but in current which your Denon is not capable of delivering. It is not the DAC that is wanting but the amp. Dynes love big SS derived power and while one can drive it from tubes it will be very expensive if you do so (you will need BIG tube amps).
I've done so many matches with my A40's as well based on a medium sized room and I found out that a 125 watts per channel amp @4 ohms WITH high current capability meaning it can still double at 2 ohms is precisely the ticket to make this small jewel shine in its true glory.
If you are in my area (South) you can bring your Dynes over and we can hook it up to a 200w per channel high current amp and you will see the difference.
I agree. Dynes are very nice speakers but need a good amp with a lot of current to make them really sing. I am not talking more of the wattage of the amp but how it could double the wattage as the speaker impedance dips.
One good example are the old Aragon amps.
Post by: panzer on Sep 22, 2013 at 10:23 AM
As others have said your dyns needs more current . i once owned a denon 4306 paired with the same dyn 40 . the sound is not that impressive . when i tried a rotel, ati and a mark levinson amp . the sound was totally different.
Post by: theblue on Sep 22, 2013 at 10:44 AM
Let's put things in perspective first...the A40's will never be on the same level as the NS777 in terms of sheer bass weight and SPL. That deficiency is probably what you are noticing when you sabi itch from A to B. To begin with the specs of the NS777 suits your Denon receiver very well but OTOH the A40's will need more. More not in the sense of more wattage but in current which your Denon is not capable of delivering. It is not the DAC that is wanting but the amp. Dynes love big SS derived power and while one can drive it from tubes it will be very expensive if you do so (you will need BIG tube amps).
I've done so many matches with my A40's as well based on a medium sized room and I found out that a 125 watts per channel amp @4 ohms WITH high current capability meaning it can still double at 2 ohms is precisely the ticket to make this small jewel shine in its true glory.
If you are in my area (South) you can bring your Dynes over and we can hook it up to a 200w per channel high current amp and you will see the difference.
Thanks sir for the advice. I know that the a40 would really loose against ns-777 in SPL and bass. But you're right, I am looking for that sweet music from these speakers and I just can't feel it with my denon. It totally lacks something I can't explain. It feels dull. I'm very much happy to go to your place and bring the dynes.
Post by: theblue on Sep 22, 2013 at 10:49 AM
As others have said your dyns needs more current . i once owned a denon 4306 paired with the same dyn 40 . the sound is not that impressive . when i tried a rotel, ati and a mark levinson amp . the sound was totally different.You mean sir even with high powered 43xx from denon wouldn't make any difference? I'm now realizing that making these dynes sing would be along way for me. Specially that my gears right now are for ht.
Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM
Review Summary
Sound: Excellent dynamics at a wide range of volume levels; sharply delineated transients; clear imaging and tight bass.
Features: Port plugs allow for bass adjustment; crossover uses all polypropylene capacitors and air-core inductors.
Use: Small enclosure and liberal stand requirements allow for very flexible placement; moderately difficult 4-ohm load requires an appropriate amplifier.
Value: Reminiscent more of a scaled-down $2000 minimonitor than a typical $699 speaker.
Post by: ricky on Sep 22, 2013 at 03:06 PM
Amps.... Give them dedicated amps with lots of juice.
Totally agree, atleast an amp that is 4ohm stable since those dynes are 2-4ohm range. But once you give it the power it needs, naku po napakaganda talaga.
Post by: panzer on Sep 22, 2013 at 04:43 PM
yes sir dynes even the low end models needs some high current amp to really sing .
Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 22, 2013 at 06:31 PM
The SVS SB13 Ultra has a 3 inch VC. The lowest speaker in the Dynaudio range has the same size VC. That comparison in itself speaks volumes of the engineering prowess of Dynaudio in cramming that VC in a very small woofer.
Moving those VC's do require a lot of drive from the amp. If the amp loses steam as the impedance goes down then the amp loses grip of those VC's and coherence suffers a lot.
Post by: armymanhaha on Sep 22, 2013 at 08:40 PM
Post by: theblue on Sep 22, 2013 at 09:27 PM
Post by: Limbaga on Sep 26, 2013 at 12:05 AM
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.
Sir, Denon 1912 can only handle loads from 6 -8ohms load or higher....therefore it will have a hard time driving your dynes, which are 4-ohms. There are only a few AVR's in the market which can handle dynes, because they are equipped with 4-ohm capability, such as Onkyo (asian version/220V version), Cambridge audio AVR's. and also as suggested by our fellow Pdvd members to consider also using a higher wattage amp to make it sing.
Post by: fattyacid on Sep 26, 2013 at 08:51 AM
Hi sirs, I just got my 1st dynaudio speakers. Audience 40. Trying to use it with my denon 1912 but I'm not very satisfied with the sound. Maganda pero parang may kulang. My source is cd in pc connected using Hdmi to denon. Any suggestions or inputs are greatly appreciated.
I've tried to use these AVRs already with Dyns:
Denon
Marantz
NAD (integrated)
Only NAD is rated for 4 ohms, but I preferred the Marantz combo. I know the newer Denons have the same innards with Marantz so it should sound similar but I think I have an old Denon as they sounded badly flat as compared with the full bodied vocals from the Marantz. NAD plays is a bit harsher though and not as smooth, but that's just for vocals as they can excel in instrumentals/acoustic.
BTW, what's your source?
Post by: mikeer2002ph on Jan 26, 2014 at 06:00 PM
how dynes are made
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8Ck8UzCOE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak8Ck8UzCOE)
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 11, 2014 at 04:01 PM
(http://www.hifiexperience.se/pub_images/large/DynaudioExcite14_2572.jpg)
The X14 is the most compact Excite model yet delivers true high-end sound quality to any system by virtue of its long-excursion mid/woofer, refined soft dome tweeter and first-class crossover components. The exquisite sonic balance, underscored by an unbelievably deep, fast and perfectly controlled bass response is a rarity in this price class.
A Dynaudio specialty plays a major role: extremely lightweight aluminium voicecoils and exceptionally large, powerful magnet systems are utilized in the X14 tweeters and mid/woofers. The music signal reproduced is graced with incredible precision, dynamics and accuracy. Moreover, the X14 is easy to drive with a wide range of amplifiers due to the amp-friendly extremely linear 8 Ohm impedance.
The beautifully-crafted cabinet is equally refined: exquisite natural wood or satin lacquer finishes enoble the rigid, solid enclosure while the minimal distance between tweeter and mid/woofer serves to improve timing and phase. The Dynaudio Stand 3X speaker stands, SF1 speaker feet, and assorted wall mount brackets are perfect accessories available for optimizing placement of the X14.
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 12, 2014 at 01:03 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 12, 2014 at 01:07 PM
ETA? :)July or August..
Post by: Plebe on Jun 12, 2014 at 06:58 PM
Post by: mYKi on Jun 15, 2014 at 07:54 PM
So I queued.... And got it! Oh man, I love it!
It's much better than the Audience. I loved the sharp imaging of the 42 and the scale and bass of the 52. The Contour 1.1 has both but with a sweeter sound. Less in-your-face which some might call dull. But it all made sense to me. It was more real. The singer is behind the speakers. There is less excitement but definitely more emotion.
I loved the Focus 140 as well but it was too boomy for my very small living room.
I was only planning to keep this Contour 1.1 while waiting for the New Excite X14... But I now think I'll be keeping this for now until I can save up for the more current Contour or Confidence lines!
I feel liberated by Dynaudio once again! ;D
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 16, 2014 at 12:01 AM
Post by: mYKi on Jun 18, 2014 at 05:29 AM
It looks like I'm only willing to stay at the Contour level. Is the C1 really worth almost 3x the price of the Contour?
Also, at the P326k, I'm sure many more speaker options are available which I haven't heard. Although I really want the Dynaudio sound, brand, and company.
Post by: Cjtjader on Jun 18, 2014 at 06:41 AM
If you have the room and proper amplification, C1 is worth every penny.:-).....and Imho, choosing Contour S1.4 over the Xcite would be a wiser decision! Goodluck!...:)
Post by: mYKi on Jun 18, 2014 at 01:50 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 19, 2014 at 04:57 PM
@myki++100000000000000000 :)
If you have the room and proper amplification, C1 is worth every penny.:-).....and Imho, choosing Contour S1.4 over the Xcite would be a wiser decision! Goodluck!...:)
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 19, 2014 at 04:58 PM
dumating na po mga Sir....(http://www.hifiexperience.se/pub_images/large/DynaudioExcite14_2572.jpg)
The X14 is the most compact Excite model yet delivers true high-end sound quality to any system by virtue of its long-excursion mid/woofer, refined soft dome tweeter and first-class crossover components. The exquisite sonic balance, underscored by an unbelievably deep, fast and perfectly controlled bass response is a rarity in this price class.
A Dynaudio specialty plays a major role: extremely lightweight aluminium voicecoils and exceptionally large, powerful magnet systems are utilized in the X14 tweeters and mid/woofers. The music signal reproduced is graced with incredible precision, dynamics and accuracy. Moreover, the X14 is easy to drive with a wide range of amplifiers due to the amp-friendly extremely linear 8 Ohm impedance.
The beautifully-crafted cabinet is equally refined: exquisite natural wood or satin lacquer finishes enoble the rigid, solid enclosure while the minimal distance between tweeter and mid/woofer serves to improve timing and phase. The Dynaudio Stand 3X speaker stands, SF1 speaker feet, and assorted wall mount brackets are perfect accessories available for optimizing placement of the X14.
Post by: armymanhaha on Jun 19, 2014 at 06:27 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 19, 2014 at 07:16 PM
Pabulong naman cash price sa x14Leas 10 % po
Post by: mYKi on Jun 22, 2014 at 02:18 PM
@myki
If you have the room and proper amplification, C1 is worth every penny.:-).....and Imho, choosing Contour S1.4 over the Xcite would be a wiser decision! Goodluck!...:)
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jun 22, 2014 at 02:47 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 22, 2014 at 03:33 PM
Ok! So far most advice leans toward the C1. I'll enjoy the Contour 1.1 first and save up for that. After a few more months of revisiting my CD collection, I'll try to audition the C1. Thanks!May pa dating akang C1Platinum next month na sa HK na yung ship...pwede e audition bago ko gamitin...I am pretty sure ibang level of SQ...dapat busog sa amplification para mas maganda...
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 25, 2014 at 03:38 PM
Post by: mYKi on Jun 25, 2014 at 07:49 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:41 AM
Uy! Maganda iyan :-) I'll bring the budget amp series but still with 350W per channel.sa place mo na,...o head count na mga boys...anong speaker pwede e A/B?
Post by: mykel18 on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:43 AM
sa place mo na,...o head count na mga boys...anong speaker pwede e A/B?
count me in
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jun 26, 2014 at 01:10 PM
count me inpasama din hehe
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Jun 26, 2014 at 01:30 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 26, 2014 at 01:56 PM
Post by: DTNS on Jun 26, 2014 at 05:01 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 26, 2014 at 05:32 PM
ganito yun parating na rosewood...
(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/systems/lines/confidence/gallery/DYN_C1Platinum_Mocca.jpg)
(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/systems/lines/confidence/gallery/DYN_C1Platinum_detail.jpg)
Post by: mykel18 on Jun 26, 2014 at 06:17 PM
Post by: jjohnc on Jun 26, 2014 at 06:20 PM
Ganda naman nyan ^-^Diba may bookshelf ka?
Post by: n o l on Jul 03, 2014 at 10:05 PM
wala pa pre, hanap tayo ng speaker na 2 way para ma A/B ;)
ganito yun parating na rosewood...
(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/systems/lines/confidence/gallery/DYN_C1Platinum_Mocca.jpg)
(http://www.dynaudio.com/images/systems/lines/confidence/gallery/DYN_C1Platinum_detail.jpg)
Wow! Ganda rin siguro ng price. ;)
Post by: mYKi on Jul 07, 2014 at 05:32 AM
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Post by: mYKi on Aug 03, 2014 at 08:22 AM
Post by: Hammerheart on Aug 03, 2014 at 11:22 AM
Wala pa bang schedule for this? :-) For me to upgrade to the C1, it has to sound 10 times better than the Contour 1.1. Kasi that's also the difference in price!
I doubt it. The difference in price doesn't dictate their sound quality. Malamang konti lang difference sir.
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 03, 2014 at 01:21 PM
Wala pa bang schedule for this? :-) For me to upgrade to the C1, it has to sound 10 times better than the Contour 1.1. Kasi that's also the difference in price!to hear is to believe.. c1 is my dream speaker hehe
Post by: mYKi on Aug 05, 2014 at 08:44 AM
I'm guessing the C1 is 500% better than the Contour 1.1. But The price is 1000%. :-)
Anyways, tama! To hear is to believe. So I'm really waiting for this shootout.
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 05, 2014 at 02:06 PM
Knowing Dynaudio, as you go up the ladder, there is a big difference in the sound quality. Hearing the Evidence in the audio show is a testament to that.
This is very true. For some brands (B&W in my experience) its really hard to justify the price jump vis a vis with the performance jump of going up the ladder but for Dynes you hear the difference distinctively.
Post by: sientobente on Nov 02, 2014 at 07:27 PM
http://www.whathifi.com/news/dynaudio-acquired-chinese-company-goertek
Does this mean manufacturing of these Danish masterpieces move to China as well?
Post by: armymanhaha on Nov 03, 2014 at 08:17 PM
Post by: cia on Nov 05, 2014 at 07:53 PM
Post by: louiep on Nov 07, 2014 at 02:10 AM
Sad news for all us dynaudio owners.
http://www.whathifi.com/news/dynaudio-acquired-chinese-company-goertek
Post by: jerrylodi on Nov 07, 2014 at 10:49 AM
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Post by: Mr.T.one on Nov 27, 2014 at 01:15 PM
swerte kahit low budget model lang ;D
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HAY NAKU! Dynaudio >>> Chynaudio
.......sssssssssaaaaaaaaadddddddd
Post by: dm1179 on Nov 27, 2014 at 04:36 PM
Post by: lagalag510 on Mar 05, 2015 at 02:19 AM
I bought the A42s second hand several months ago and are currently being driven by a Naim Nait 5i. I must say that I've never experienced home HiFi like this before. Open, clear and very punchy sound! Actually the word punchy is not enough to describe the bass. Weighty, tight and fast are the better words to use. I have another bookshelf pair - Dali Zensor 3 - which go deeper in LFs but the Dynes have more quality and physical bass coming from a much smaller enclosure. The highs are also not fatiguing. During the Christmas break I was listening to music all day and until past midnight!
I call myself now a Dynaudio fan and have now a clear speaker upgrade path for the future, which is Dynaudio all the way.
Post by: lagalag510 on Mar 05, 2015 at 02:26 AM
If the difference is mainly on bass department maybe I'm better off with adding a subwoofer. Or?
Thanks for any advice.
Sherwin
Post by: synchro_01 on Mar 06, 2015 at 09:12 AM
I actually wanted to ask if somebody in here upgraded from Audience 42 to Focus 140 and if the upgrade cost was worth the performance difference.
If the difference is mainly on bass department maybe I'm better off with adding a subwoofer. Or?
Thanks for any advice.
Sherwin
Best for you to go from Audience to the Contour Line. You will enjoy it a lot if you like music. I still have my 42 and my 50 and they are very good already however if what you are looking for is more finesse in the mid and treble departments then I suggest the Contour. So happy that its been my main stereo speakers for the last 8 years.
Now to move up another level then add a very good sub to the Contour and you will probably have a system that can handle anything from AC/DC to Norah Jones.
Post by: fattyacid on Mar 06, 2015 at 10:22 AM
I actually wanted to ask if somebody in here upgraded from Audience 42 to Focus 140 and if the upgrade cost was worth the performance difference.I have both. Got the Focus first, then snatched an Audience later. Note that the frequency response of the 42 is from 53hz-28khz while the 140 is from 41hz-25khz. Bass is better on the 140 but less kalansing than the 42. Dito lang angat si 42, but at others especially on vocals, angat talaga si 140.
If the difference is mainly on bass department maybe I'm better off with adding a subwoofer. Or?
Thanks for any advice.
Sherwin
Post by: cia on Mar 07, 2015 at 08:51 AM
Given my extremely satisfactory experience with the brand, I upgraded to the Special 25.
The S25 works well with tube amps whether el 34s or kt88 or 6550 and solid state whether class AB or D.
I have tried amps as low as 18wpc to as high as 250wpc.
I have had these speakers for around 10 years and have no intention of replacing them.
Post by: lagalag510 on Mar 07, 2015 at 03:57 PM
Best for you to go from Audience to the Contour Line. You will enjoy it a lot if you like music. I still have my 42 and my 50 and they are very good already however if what you are looking for is more finesse in the mid and treble departments then I suggest the Contour. So happy that its been my main stereo speakers for the last 8 years.
Now to move up another level then add a very good sub to the Contour and you will probably have a system that can handle anything from AC/DC to Norah Jones.
Thanks for the tip. My eyes were set on Contours at first. But from what I've been reading online I also need a big jump on my electronics if I were to do the S1.4s justice. If I stay with Naim I'd need a SuperNait or NAC202/NAP200, which are out of my budget. I am also worried that the S1.4s would overpower my smallish listening room which is just 4mx5m.
I've also read that some consider the Focus 140s to be the 'spiritual' successor to the 1.3SE, but with lower build quality. And a Nait XS can drive the 140s well. I am about to pick up a used Nait XS later today.
So for the time being I'm targeting the Focus 140. But I am pretty sure that the Contours are on my upgrade path in the near future. ^-^
Post by: lagalag510 on Mar 07, 2015 at 04:08 PM
I have both. Got the Focus first, then snatched an Audience later. Note that the frequency response of the 42 is from 53hz-28khz while the 140 is from 41hz-25khz. Bass is better on the 140 but less kalansing than the 42. Dito lang angat si 42, but at others especially on vocals, angat talaga si 140.I have another set of speakers - Dali Zensor 3. Mas makalansing yung Zensors kesa sa 42s. But I prefer the refined treble of the 42s. I'm not sure if further reduced 'kalansing' will suit me though. Your observation is consistent with what I've been reading about the focus line versus audience/excite line so far - Focus tweeters are more laid back due to additional coating.
But I love vocal music - Norah Jones, Katie Melua, Diana Krall...Hmm. I really have to hear the 140s to know if it is a worthy upgrade (for me) to the very good 42s.
Thanks.
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Post by: MrDeckard on Sep 28, 2016 at 08:11 PM
Thanks
Post by: jlodvo on Oct 04, 2016 at 12:05 AM
Post by: Abdul Maharatbu on Oct 05, 2016 at 02:08 PM
Listening in Style
Unit 537, Main Wing Shangri-La Plaza, EDSA Corner Shaw Boulevard, Mandaluyong, 1550 Metro Manila, Philippines
+63 2 632 9785
Post by: dukesociety on Oct 05, 2016 at 06:32 PM
Any user of the dyne emit m20 here? Can these be driven by a marantz pm6005?6 ohms naman yung emit series so kung hindi masyadong malaki yung room, pwede naman. i have emit 10 driven by exposure 2010s2 at 75w per channel, hindi lumalagpas sa 10 o'clock yung volume ko when listening.
Thanks
Post by: MrDeckard on Oct 05, 2016 at 07:34 PM
Thanks. 4 Ohms ang Emit20.
Post by: dukesociety on Oct 05, 2016 at 08:52 PM
Post by: MrDeckard on Oct 05, 2016 at 10:29 PM
Post by: jlodvo on Oct 06, 2016 at 05:50 AM
Try contacting Listening in Style since they distribute Dynaudio.
Listening in Style
Unit 537, Main Wing Shangri-La Plaza, EDSA Corner Shaw Boulevard, Mandaluyong, 1550 Metro Manila, Philippines
+63 2 632 9785
Post by: jlodvo on Oct 06, 2016 at 05:56 AM
or get a decent usb dac and use the analog connectors?
thanks
Post by: sientobente on Oct 07, 2016 at 04:57 PM
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Post by: Ohmguru on Nov 19, 2016 at 02:45 PM
I have auditioned Excite x12 and i'm not quite settled with it.
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 19, 2016 at 04:25 PM
Dyns require a dynamic amp to achieve the max potential of the speaker.
Plinius, Bryston, Musical Fidelity, Muse are dynamic amps that work well with the Dyns.
Bnew Emit 10, Pre-owned Excite x12 or DM 2/7..hmm. what to choose?
I have auditioned Excite x12 and i'm not quite settled with it.
Post by: Ohmguru on Nov 19, 2016 at 07:10 PM
I came back to the same audio store (Watt Hifi) awhileago to accompany my friend to check out Cayin Tube. I suggested to use the X12. To no surprise, it brought out the best of what the speakers can do.
However, the said tube amp is way out of my budget. Haysst.
I'll try sir your recommended amp.
Post by: edwin on Nov 20, 2016 at 09:22 AM
I remembered my friend had the Dyns special twenty five bookshelf being driven by a passlabs x-100. It didn't work as the amp was struggling (that is a passlabs and still we were scratching our head, why). He sold it after trying all the tweaks he could think of in his system. He replaced it with a sonus faber electa amator 2 .
Post by: dieselsy on Nov 20, 2016 at 02:50 PM
:)
Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 21, 2016 at 09:11 AM
plinius matches well with dyns.. i got a pre owned plinius 9100.. very good condition.. price to sell.. pm me for details..
:)
Post by: jerrylodi on Nov 21, 2016 at 11:02 AM
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Post by: CoolTOYZPH on Nov 21, 2016 at 08:52 PM
budget amp for dyns, sa yamaha as500 ako >:D
Post by: too jazzy cool on Nov 22, 2016 at 07:06 AM
Post by: Hammerheart on Nov 29, 2016 at 02:39 AM
they have a contour s5.4 in shang :).A good match for your plinius i guess. :)
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Post by: MrDeckard on May 18, 2017 at 08:01 PM
If international release date is June, kailan kaya dadating dito sa PH?
Post by: Own7 on May 18, 2017 at 09:27 PM
Dynes just announced the Special Forty BS . To be priced as 3k Euros.
If international release date is June, kailan kaya dadating dito sa PH?
Sayang! Just purchased a contour 1.4s le a couple of days ago; maybe price here will be
A lot higher.
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Post by: dukesociety on May 31, 2017 at 02:48 PM
TIA
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Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jun 01, 2017 at 12:08 PM
Magkano po SRP ng Emit M10?
TIA
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Last I checked, M10 = 36k, M20 = 42k, M30 = 87k
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Post by: Icermad on Mar 30, 2019 at 10:52 PM
The evoke series has the new tweeter design, magkano kaya srp sa tin?
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According to a distributor I asked, around 100k to 350k daw?
Post by: moniac108 on Apr 30, 2019 at 12:15 PM
Kamusta kaya ang sound ng Evoke 20 may nakarinig na ba?
Just upgraded my old audience52SE with evoke 20. Sounds great with deep bass, i had it paired with rotel amp 200 watts on 8 ohms.
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Post by: dukesociety on Jul 14, 2019 at 10:13 PM
Kamusta kaya ang sound ng Evoke 20 may nakarinig na ba?Magkano kuha mo sa evoke 20 sir? Have you tried comparing it to s40?
Just upgraded my old audience52SE with evoke 20. Sounds great with deep bass, i had it paired with rotel amp 200 watts on 8 ohms.
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Post by: DOM on Jul 15, 2019 at 08:54 AM
anu kya okay or match na amplifier for dynaudio x18?
(tube o Solid state o hybrid)
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: Icermad on Jul 16, 2019 at 08:28 PM
hello
anu kya okay or match na amplifier for dynaudio x18?
(tube o Solid state o hybrid)
:) ;) :D ;D
I used all three, sa bedroom ok lang for me Tube (KT88) will try EL34 din but sa bigger room medyo mas preferred ko yung Tube Pre + SS PA or SS - Integ Amp.. But siguro pag mataas WPC ng Tube baka ok din sa bigger room..
Depende din siguro sa preference mo sa music :)
Post by: Icermad on Jul 16, 2019 at 08:32 PM
110 k yup side by side sila ng sp 40 medyo mahirap idescribe kasi magkaiba sila its just a matter if personal preference. Kasama ko si misis nung binili ko pinili niya evoke ako naman di maka decide kaya siya ang nagwagi. Special 40 maganda ang highs but evoke is also good. Mas swabe lang ang evoke for me overall. Main consideration ko talaga is the mid woofer design ng evoke which is based on contour although diff magnet. Mas malalim ang frame ng evoke kumpara sa sp 40 kaya mas less chance mag bottom up pag sinagad sa bass.
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Natry mo compare sir with the Contour 20?
Post by: moniac108 on Jul 16, 2019 at 08:45 PM
Natry mo compare sir with the Contour 20?
Sad to say hinde kasi above budget ko ang contour 20 layo ng presyo from the two.
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Post by: Icermad on Jul 16, 2019 at 09:21 PM
Sad to say hinde kasi above budget ko ang contour 20 layo ng presyo from the two.
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Ok sir thank you :)
Post by: DOM on Jul 20, 2019 at 02:33 PM
:) ;) :D ;D
testing ko dynaudio excite x18 sa
1st. as pc speaker 2.0 (emotiva stealth dc1 and marantz mm7025) - no good
2nd. testing ko sa tube amp na ordinary hi fi (kt88) - no good
3rd. musical fidelity x series (xpre, xdac, x10d, xa50 monoblock power amp, 50watts) - ng improve good
4th. musical fidelity a300 with xdac and x10d - better than the 1st three
5th. Audiolab 8300cdq and 8300mb (pre and monoblock power amp 250watts) - ng improve pa
6th. combo hybrid Musical fidelity xpre, x10d xdac and audiolab 8300mb - best happy me
(speaker wire use - dynamique , ic xlo and transparent musiclink
Post by: Icermad on Jul 21, 2019 at 11:23 AM
totoo pala hard to drive ang dynaudio speaker.
:) ;) :D ;D
testing ko dynaudio excite x18 sa
1st. as pc speaker 2.0 (emotiva stealth dc1 and marantz mm7025) - no good
2nd. testing ko sa tube amp na ordinary hi fi (kt88) - no good
3rd. musical fidelity x series (xpre, xdac, x10d, xa50 monoblock power amp, 50watts) - ng improve good
4th. musical fidelity a300 with xdac and x10d - better than the 1st three
5th. Audiolab 8300cdq and 8300mb (pre and monoblock power amp 250watts) - ng improve pa
6th. combo hybrid Musical fidelity xpre, x10d xdac and audiolab 8300mb - best happy me
(speaker wire use - dynamique , ic xlo and transparent musiclink
Nice! Buti madami ka options hahaha May nagpost sa isang group pinang Drive nya ng C4 is Primaluna Evo 400.. Happy naman sya with EL34.. pero depende siguro talaga sa Music Preference haha But ako mas masaya din ako sa Solid State for Dyns
Post by: fattyacid on Jul 22, 2019 at 03:28 AM
Post by: Icermad on Jul 27, 2019 at 06:05 PM
Ive got the best setup wth flac/lossless audio via optical to Marantz AVR. Vocals FTW!
What's the model of your Marantz sir?
Post by: Icermad on Jul 27, 2019 at 06:05 PM
Sad to say hinde kasi above budget ko ang contour 20 layo ng presyo from the two.
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Sir kamusta Evoke after the Break-in Period?
Post by: moniac108 on Jul 27, 2019 at 06:48 PM
Sir kamusta Evoke after the Break-in Period?
So far okay naman i decided to have it tested side by side with my old paradigm studio 20 v5 layo na ng sound ng evoke you wont need a sub kung music lang ang iplay mo plus the highs are sweet. Just using internet radio via wifi and sound is very good but if you play audiophile CD ganda!
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Post by: Icermad on Jul 27, 2019 at 10:11 PM
So far okay naman i decided to have it tested side by side with my old paradigm studio 20 v5 layo na ng sound ng evoke you wont need a sub kung music lang ang iplay mo plus the highs are sweet. Just using internet radio via wifi and sound is very good but if you play audiophile CD ganda!
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Nice hehe sana magkaron pa ng marami reviews..or may dealer na magpaHome Demo haha
Post by: moniac108 on Jul 28, 2019 at 06:21 AM
Nice hehe sana magkaron pa ng marami reviews..or may dealer na magpaHome Demo haha
My friend has a higher end Dyn na Contour 1.4 try ko hiramin kung pwede so I can also make a comparison. Yung sala ko kasi walang sound treatment at puro concrete walls kaya hanggang 10 o’clock lang ako sa volume knob malakas na.
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Post by: ricky on Jul 28, 2019 at 04:50 PM
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Post by: moniac108 on Aug 02, 2019 at 09:42 PM
To get the best from any Dyne you have to power them adequately, feed them from a clean source and most importantly if you can swing it...have the Dynes perform in a treated room.
Agree medyo hinay hinay lang sa base kasi yung dating audience 52 SE nag bOttom up when driven by a home theater receiver in a movie with heavy base effect. I replaced it with evoke 20 with deeper driver and large enclosure para resistant sa bottoming up kasi for me i really like the tweeter of dyns hirap idescribe why i loved how it sounds.
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Post by: Icermad on Aug 03, 2019 at 12:15 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 03, 2019 at 01:06 PM
Agree medyo hinay hinay lang sa base kasi yung dating audience 52 SE nag bOttom up when driven by a home theater receiver in a movie with heavy base effect. I replaced it with evoke 20 with deeper driver and large enclosure para resistant sa bottoming up kasi for me i really like the tweeter of dyns hirap idescribe why i loved how it sounds.
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One cannot really expect 52’s to deliver sub 30hz bass signals with authority. Cross it over at 50hz and it will be happy in that range. Agree with the tweeters. Esotec and esotar tweeters are simply intoxicating. Very non fatiguing. I too have a 52 based HT system with 5 other Dyne models (c120 center and 4 - 42’s plus REL) to complete a 7.1 system. I can watch for the entire day without ever being fatigued. Used to own a full THX speaker system and after 1 to 2 movies it seemed like I felt tired listening to it.
Post by: Icermad on Aug 06, 2019 at 10:21 AM
Agree medyo hinay hinay lang sa base kasi yung dating audience 52 SE nag bOttom up when driven by a home theater receiver in a movie with heavy base effect. I replaced it with evoke 20 with deeper driver and large enclosure para resistant sa bottoming up kasi for me i really like the tweeter of dyns hirap idescribe why i loved how it sounds.
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NakaLarge ba yung setting mo sir?
Post by: moniac108 on Aug 06, 2019 at 10:28 AM
Do you have pre outs sir sa receiver? If you have, maybe you can considered buying a separate power amp for the front channels?
Actually I bought the legacy Paradigm Studio 20 and Studio C590 as my home theater and bought a separate system of two chanels for evoke 20 i used rotel preamp and separate power amp.
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Post by: Verbl Kint on Mar 06, 2020 at 04:58 PM
https://www.audioholics.com/amplifier-reviews/denon-800ne-integrated-amp
Would it be a good idea? If not, any alternatives you can recommend (Yamaha, perhaps?)?
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Post by: synchro_01 on Apr 21, 2020 at 04:10 PM
99.9% of the time you will only listen or watch an entire movie at 90 to 95db levels save for those moments when you want to wow your friends with your 115db Audio system dynamics. Fatigue will certainly set in if one listens to a very loud system for an extended period of time.
Dynes are spec'ed at 86db @ 4ohms meaning you only need 1 watt of stable 4 ohm power to achieve 86db measured at 1 meter from the speaker. How you listen to it and the room size will dictate if you need further improvement in amplification for the Dyns
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Post by: mousemouse on May 21, 2020 at 01:11 PM
Unfortunately, panels will only improve your highs and some of the mids. If blocking the ports is not enough, you will need bass traps to take care of of your room mode, and these are usually big and bulky. A better solution might be to get a DSP and reduce the room modes more effectively.
Are bass traps the things they put on wall corners behind the speakers? i tried searching for these and am surprised that these are quite big.
I will use the speakers with the port blocked and unblocked for and decide which one I like better. thanks!
Post by: mousemouse on May 21, 2020 at 01:13 PM
congrats sir sa dyns..
Thanks sir! ibang iba yung sound signature ng dynaudio compared sa b&w na gamit ko. Parang mas cohesive at relaxed sounding yung dyns, mas realistic. Although ang layo din naman kasi ng price kasi yung entry level model gamit ko na b&w dati.
Post by: stevesonk on May 21, 2020 at 02:12 PM
Thanks sir! ibang iba yung sound signature ng dynaudio compared sa b&w na gamit ko. Parang mas cohesive at relaxed sounding yung dyns, mas realistic. Although ang layo din naman kasi ng price kasi yung entry level model gamit ko na b&w dati.at new model pa! special forty..!! ive heard b&w, medyo bright sa pandinig ko, pero nung na audition ko mga dyns, excite,contour,consequence, & evidence model, much refined tunog at punchy tight base..sweet nman ang esotar tweeter, demanding nga lang sa amp, power hungry.. ano sir amp gamit nyo?
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Post by: mousemouse on May 22, 2020 at 09:36 AM
at new model pa! special forty..!! ive heard b&w, medyo bright sa pandinig ko, pero nung na audition ko mga dyns, excite,contour,consequence, & evidence model, much refined tunog at punchy tight base..sweet nman ang esotar tweeter, demanding nga lang sa amp, power hungry.. ano sir amp gamit nyo?
Entry level na amp sir, Emotiva TA100 pre amp with A300 power amp. 150w/ch. Hindi ko pa kasi ma test properly itong setup kasi ang liit ng room kung saan naka lagay itong speakers. Kelangan ko ng mas malaking space talaga para malaman
Post by: mousemouse on May 22, 2020 at 09:41 AM
sir, for room acoustics, may i recommend Tony Rodriguez. He is not that active here you can search his name in FB.
hehe, I dont think my room warrants professional treatment. Its a small bedroom and study room all in one and I plan on moving out soon. I saw Tony Rodriquez' facebook page and he does great looking room treatment. thanks!
Post by: stevesonk on May 22, 2020 at 09:55 AM
Entry level na amp sir, Emotiva TA100 pre amp with A300 power amp. 150w/ch. Hindi ko pa kasi ma test properly itong setup kasi ang liit ng room kung saan naka lagay itong speakers. Kelangan ko ng mas malaking space talaga para malamanif ever you will upgrade the amp, best pair the special forty with the new krell k300i..!! may option din sya ng additional phono & dac.. ^-^
i believe 'audio pursuit', merun dun.. ;)
Post by: mousemouse on May 22, 2020 at 01:21 PM
if ever you will upgrade the amp, best pair the special forty with the new krell k300i..!! may option din sya ng additional phono & dac.. ^-^
i believe 'audio pursuit', merun dun.. ;)
Wow that amp is 20x the price of my current amp haha. Right now my room is the bottleneck in my system so I will upgrade once I get a bigger listening space. thanks for the suggestion sir
Post by: stevesonk on May 22, 2020 at 02:26 PM
Wow that amp is 20x the price of my current amp haha. Right now my room is the bottleneck in my system so I will upgrade once I get a bigger listening space. thanks for the suggestion sirkayang-kaya mo un sir... ;) or accuphase e-380, match na match sa dyns special forty, sa dac, dcs bartok, powercord ay shunyata, for speaker cables & interconnects transparent ultra gen.5 series..
hayy... audio nirvana.. ^-^
Post by: alvinbaronsia on May 23, 2020 at 07:20 PM
Post by: DOM on May 23, 2020 at 08:00 PM
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: stevesonk on May 23, 2020 at 08:05 PM
sale ang special 40's ngayonmagkano daw sir..?
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: DOM on May 23, 2020 at 08:15 PM
ECQ sale, message sa akin
Post by: stevesonk on May 23, 2020 at 08:26 PM
85,000.00 :) ;) :D ;Dwow!! almost 50% off..!! audio pursuit ba sir ang name ng shop..?
ECQ sale, message sa akin
Post by: DOM on May 23, 2020 at 08:35 PM
:) ;) :D ;D
limited slot
without stand.
Post by: stevesonk on May 23, 2020 at 08:36 PM
yup audio pursuitsabi na, kay sir junior na tindahan..
:) ;) :D ;D
limited slot
without stand.
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 23, 2020 at 10:28 PM
Post by: jh@meeh on May 24, 2020 at 06:08 AM
sale pala ah.. :)Ano pang ginagawa mo? Hahaha
Post by: MrDeckard on May 25, 2020 at 05:30 PM
Will a plinius inspire 980 sufficient to power a Dynaudio Contour 1.4 LE. My roo is 6x6m, and tend to play loud once in while.
Thanks!
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 25, 2020 at 08:42 PM
Ano pang ginagawa mo? Hahahalangya, gang dito eh..haha
Post by: richardcruz on May 25, 2020 at 09:04 PM
Mga Master,
Will a plinius inspire 980 sufficient to power a Dynaudio Contour 1.4 LE. My roo is 6x6m, and tend to play loud once in while.
Thanks!
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 26, 2020 at 06:43 PM
Post by: stevesonk on May 26, 2020 at 07:08 PM
di pa nagrereport yung bagong may Special Forty dito ah...Congrats ha! >:D 8) :)pinasyalan daw kanina at pinicturan.. diko lang alam kung nabiyabit pauwi..
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 26, 2020 at 07:25 PM
pinasyalan daw kanina at pinicturan.. diko lang alam kung nabiyabit pauwi..
binitbit bro, nag send pa pic eh..haha
Post by: stevesonk on May 26, 2020 at 07:48 PM
binitbit bro, nag send pa pic eh..hahakaya pala tahimik sa forum.., ine-enjoy na bagong special forty.. hindi un matutulog ngayun gabi.. ;D ;D
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 26, 2020 at 08:30 PM
kaya pala tahimik sa forum.., ine-enjoy na bagong special forty.. hindi un matutulog ngayun gabi.. ;D ;D
haha..hapon na kasi na pick up eh, kahit ako puyat ako pag ganyan..hehe
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 29, 2020 at 09:54 PM
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Post by: stevesonk on May 29, 2020 at 10:16 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 29, 2020 at 10:23 PM
nkew.. delikads, sa speaker yan..
mahirap ba drive ang M20? or di lang talaga match sa cambridge cxa80 yan?
Post by: stevesonk on May 29, 2020 at 10:28 PM
mahirap ba drive ang M20? or di lang talaga match sa cambridge cxa80 yan?dapat kaya yan ng cxa80 kasi maliit lng na bookshelf si emit 20..
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 29, 2020 at 10:37 PM
dapat kaya yan ng cxa80 kasi maliit lng na bookshelf si emit 20..
so amp ba may problem bro?
Post by: stevesonk on May 29, 2020 at 10:44 PM
so amp ba may problem bro?tingin ko lang speaker..
ung speaker ko rated 300 watts @ 8 ohms
amp ko rated 150 watts @ 8ohms, halos kalahati,
pero nung 75% volume ko nung new year, lusaw ang vifa tweeter, iba ata pagka adjust sa tweak between woofer & tweeter, so sa dynes, bka may nag pop, sira speakers.. parang may naputok kpag nilaksan at malakas bigay ng bass..
Post by: noob on May 29, 2020 at 10:52 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 29, 2020 at 11:24 PM
tingin ko lang speaker..
ung speaker ko rated 300 watts @ 8 ohms
amp ko rated 150 watts @ 8ohms, halos kalahati,
pero nung 75% volume ko nung new year, lusaw ang vifa tweeter, iba ata pagka adjust sa tweak between woofer & tweeter, so sa dynes, bka may nag pop, sira speakers.. parang may naputok kpag nilaksan at malakas bigay ng bass..
yari pala ah, kung ganyan nga.
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 29, 2020 at 11:25 PM
Baka kasi dahil 4 ohms usually ang dynes, kaya need ng powerful na amp?
yan din nasa isip ko eh, kung 6ohms man lang sana noh baka kayanin pa.
Post by: richardcruz on May 30, 2020 at 08:16 AM
Post by: qguy on May 30, 2020 at 08:29 AM
tingin ko lang speaker..
ung speaker ko rated 300 watts @ 8 ohms
amp ko rated 150 watts @ 8ohms, halos kalahati,
pero nung 75% volume ko nung new year, lusaw ang vifa tweeter, iba ata pagka adjust sa tweak between woofer & tweeter, so sa dynes, bka may nag pop, sira speakers.. parang may naputok kpag nilaksan at malakas bigay ng bass..
Post by: stevesonk on May 30, 2020 at 11:04 AM
That popping sound is most likely the voice coil former hitting something, basically it is moving too far for what it was designed to do. The 300 watts rating is most likely at 1000Khz, so take the power rating with a grain of salt, unless the specs tell you 300 watts from 20hz to 20,000Khz. Once you hear that "popping" sound, reduce the volume levelsso in shoktong's case, speaker may problem, not the cxa80..
Post by: jh@meeh on May 30, 2020 at 11:10 AM
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Post by: stevesonk on May 30, 2020 at 11:19 AM
Post by: jh@meeh on May 30, 2020 at 11:27 AM
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 30, 2020 at 08:03 PM
sharing lang po ang bagong ayuda ni kapitan SP40 ;D ;D
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ayos na buto buto..hehe
Congrats bro. ;)
Post by: Conan on May 30, 2020 at 08:08 PM
Baka kasi dahil 4 ohms usually ang dynes, kaya need ng powerful na amp?Cambridge CXA 80 is powerful enough for the Dynaudio M20. I used to use a CXA 60 to power my M20's but later on I got a NAD C368.
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 30, 2020 at 08:20 PM
Cambridge CXA 80 is powerful enough for the Dynaudio M20. I used to use a CXA 60 to power my M20's but later on I got a NAD C368.
sir kamusta CXA-60 sa M20 maganda ba matching nila?
Post by: Conan on May 30, 2020 at 08:22 PM
sir kamusta CXA-60 sa M20 maganda ba matching nila?Maganda naman though the NAD is a slightly better match. When I auditioned the M20 they also paired it with a NAD C388 and I thought that it sounded better than when powered by the Plinius (don't know the model sorry) amp.
Post by: shoktongxxx on May 30, 2020 at 08:29 PM
Maganda naman though the NAD is a slightly better match. When I auditioned the M20 they also paired it with a NAD C388 and I thought that it sounded better than when powered by the Plinius (don't know the model sorry) amp.
nice! thanks. :)
Post by: Deckard on Jun 01, 2020 at 02:54 PM
Thoughts will be appreciated.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 06, 2020 at 05:05 PM
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 06, 2020 at 05:17 PM
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 06, 2020 at 05:51 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 06, 2020 at 05:52 PM
kasama ba sa sale 50% off ung excite floorstanders..?
lahat bro..50% off. :)
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 06, 2020 at 05:54 PM
lahat bro..50% off. :)wow..!! sayang kulang budget ko sa x34.. :'(
Post by: GIJoe on Jul 06, 2020 at 06:04 PM
buti na lang ala ako pambili 
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Post by: banesto on Jul 06, 2020 at 10:13 PM
lahat bro..50% off. :)Nakabili ako last month ng Dynaudio Evoke 20 less 50% for 55k only.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 12:52 AM
Nakabili ako last month ng Dynaudio Evoke 20 less 50% for 55k only.
anong amp sir ginamit mo?
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 07, 2020 at 01:02 AM
Nakabili ako last month ng Dynaudio Evoke 20 less 50% for 55k only.ganda review ng crunchfield sa evoke 20..!! sana ibalik na ang lotto para makataya.. ^-^
Post by: panzer on Jul 07, 2020 at 05:38 AM
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:00 AM
anong amp sir ginamit mo?Gamit kong amp sa Evoke 20 ay Vintage hi end separate Sony TA-2000F pre amp with matching Sony TA-3200F power amp, 100wpc @ 8 ohms
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:03 AM
ganda review ng crunchfield sa evoke 20..!! sana ibalik na ang lotto para makataya.. ^-^Maganda ang Evoke 20 bro, nasiyahan ako, malaki ang improvement kaysa sa dati kong Dynaudio Audience 52.
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:06 AM
Sir me contour din na 50% offMeron yata Contour, lahat less 50%
Post by: panzer on Jul 07, 2020 at 10:29 AM
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 07, 2020 at 10:45 AM
Anu fb nilaaudio pursuit
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 03:42 PM
Gamit kong amp sa Evoke 20 ay Vintage hi end separate Sony TA-2000F pre amp with matching Sony TA-3200F power amp, 100wpc @ 8 ohms
wow! yung Rega Elicit R na try nyo ba sa kanya sir?
kayo po ba yung taga Las Pinas/Paranaque kasi nung deliver yung Evoke 20 ko sa bahay may isang box silang hahatid na Evoke 20 din sa lugar na yun.
Post by: Courage on Jul 07, 2020 at 03:44 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 05:39 PM
Pakinig naman sa Evoke 20 nyo hehehehe...
oo naman brader..ikaw pa haha.. :)
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 05:41 PM
wow! yung Rega Elicit R na try nyo ba sa kanya sir?
kayo po ba yung taga Las Pinas/Paranaque kasi nung deliver yung Evoke 20 ko sa bahay may isang box silang hahatid na Evoke 20 din sa lugar na yun.
Yup taga Paranaque ako bro Sa akin nga iyon. Galing daw sila sa Binan.
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 05:46 PM
wow! yung Rega Elicit R na try nyo ba sa kanya sir?
kayo po ba yung taga Las Pinas/Paranaque kasi nung deliver yung Evoke 20 ko sa bahay may isang box silang hahatid na Evoke 20 din sa lugar na yun.
Medyo kulang ng budget sa Elicit bro....Ipon mode muna.
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 05:47 PM
How about your Nad amp bro? Maganda ba sa Evoke 20?
oo naman brader..ikaw pa haha.. :)
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 08:18 PM
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Yup taga Paranaque ako bro Sa akin nga iyon. Galing daw sila sa Binan.congrats sa inyo sabay pala dumating ang Evoke 20 natin. :)
How about your Nad amp bro? Maganda ba sa Evoke 20?
yup! ayos na ayos sir, pero ginawa ko hook ko yung Acurus A100 ko sa kanya kasi gusto ko try yung Hybrid DAC nya so ayun positive results naman sa DAC section ng NAD C388 kaya di ko na binaklas yung setup, busog lusog ang linis pa ng tunog... :)
ganito sya naka setup sir
Cambridge Audio CXN V2-->NAD C388-->Acurus A100. :)
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 08:33 PM
How about your Nad amp bro? Maganda ba sa Evoke 20?
ayan po sya sir. :)
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 08:35 PM
Medyo kulang ng budget sa Elicit bro....Ipon mode muna.
pero na try nyo sir sa Elicit R sir?
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 08:51 PM
pero na try nyo sir sa Elicit R sir?Di ko na try sa Rega Elicit bro...Feeling ko mas gusto ng evoke ng mas powerful amp.
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 08:55 PM
pero na try nyo sir sa Elicit R sir?Paano ginawa mo bro sa Acurus A100? Di po ba amp din yan Acurus? Konektado ang Acurus sa Nad amp?
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:05 PM
Paano ginawa mo bro sa Acurus A100? Di po ba amp din yan Acurus? Konektado ang Acurus sa Nad amp?
yung CXN ko via coax kinabit ko sa NAD C388 then may pre-out si NAD C388 dun ko kinabit ang Acurus Power amp ko bro. :)
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:30 PM
yung CXN ko via coax kinabit ko sa NAD C388 then may pre-out si NAD C388 dun ko kinabit ang Acurus Power amp ko bro. :)Ah okey bro bale ang nagdridrive na amp ay Acurus A100.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:32 PM
Ah okey bro bale ang nagdridrive na amp ay Acurus A100.
yes! DAC/Pre amp si NAD C388. :)
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:37 PM
yes! DAC/Pre amp si NAD C388. :)Ano mas maganda SQ bro Nad c388 o Acurus A100?
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:52 PM
Ano mas maganda SQ bro Nad c388 o Acurus A100?NAD C388 hands down, pero pag pinagsama silang dalawa mas maganda combo nila..mas may detailed sya para sa akin at mas may kiliti ang highs nya at yung bass nya nakalansing na din hahaha..kaya nga di ko mabaklas ulit eh. :)
Post by: banesto on Jul 07, 2020 at 09:57 PM
NAD C388 hands down, pero pag pinagsama silang dalawa mas maganda combo nila..mas may detailed sya para sa akin at mas may kiliti ang highs nya at yung bass nya nakalansing na din hahaha..kaya nga di ko mabaklas ulit eh. :)Ayos bro....Match pala ang Nad C388 sa Evoke 2o.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 07, 2020 at 10:03 PM
Ayos bro....Match pala ang Nad C388 sa Evoke 2o.yes. :)
Post by: Conan on Jul 09, 2020 at 07:12 PM
Ayos bro....Match pala ang Nad C388 sa Evoke 2o.NADC388 also sounded really good with M20.
Post by: banesto on Jul 09, 2020 at 08:53 PM
NADC388 also sounded really good with M20.Maganda na pala ang Class D amp. I heard that Nad C388 is a class D amp.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 09, 2020 at 10:42 PM
NADC388 also sounded really good with M20.
chief ask ko lang how about yung CXA-60 sa M20 maganda din ba?
Post by: Conan on Jul 09, 2020 at 11:57 PM
chief ask ko lang how about yung CXA-60 sa M20 maganda din ba?Maganda din though I felt that the bass became better when I got the NAD C368. When I got an Audioquest power cable (reasonably priced around 6k only) during the last HiFi show at Dusit it seemed to make the CXA 60 seem more powerful, parang at par na siya with the C368.
Post by: Dr.Kamiya on Jul 13, 2020 at 07:14 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 13, 2020 at 10:16 PM
Maganda din though I felt that the bass became better when I got the NAD C368. When I got an Audioquest power cable (reasonably priced around 6k only) during the last HiFi show at Dusit it seemed to make the CXA 60 seem more powerful, parang at par na siya with the C368.
thanks! :)
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 24, 2020 at 09:17 AM
Di ko na try sa Rega Elicit bro...Feeling ko mas gusto ng evoke ng mas powerful amp.
balikan ko to, parang di naman mapili sa amp si Evoke 20 yung PowerNode 2i na 60W per channel nag sample ng video sa FB kantang busog lusog eh. :)
Post by: luis on Jul 24, 2020 at 09:55 PM
;D
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 24, 2020 at 10:07 PM
I saw in YouTube evoke 20 with audiolab 6000A integrated.best paired to dynes was krell k-300i ^-^
;D
w/ optional onboard dac/phono stage
Post by: banesto on Jul 25, 2020 at 09:01 AM
I saw in YouTube evoke 20 with audiolab 6000A integrated.I thinks sir Luis 50wpc @ 8 ohms then 75wpc @ 4 ohms yata yun Audiolab 6000A.
;D
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 25, 2020 at 09:06 AM
I thinks sir Luis 70 watts yata yun Audiolab 6000A.last 2016 i heard audiolab 6000a with bowers & wilkins bookshelves.. good combo w/ audiolab cd player.. ^-^
plinius hautonga int. amp match din yan sa dynes bookshelves.. ;)
Post by: banesto on Jul 25, 2020 at 09:12 AM
last 2016 i heard audiolab 6000a with bowers & wilkins bookshelves.. good combo w/ audiolab cd player.. ^-^Tama ka sir
plinius hautonga int. amp match din yan sa dynes bookshelves.. ;)
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Jul 25, 2020 at 11:29 AM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 26, 2020 at 09:37 AM
I saw in YouTube evoke 20 with audiolab 6000A integrated.
;D
uy mahanap nga yan..thanks! :)
Post by: banesto on Jul 26, 2020 at 11:42 AM
uy mahanap nga yan..thanks! :)Narinig ko yan sa Youtube bro mondi. Maganda tunog sa pandinig ko with a 50 watts Audiolab 6000A amp.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jul 28, 2020 at 03:37 PM
Narinig ko yan sa Youtube bro mondi. Maganda tunog sa pandinig ko with a 50 watts Audiolab 6000A amp.ayos panalo.. :)
Post by: luis on Aug 14, 2020 at 04:22 PM
Good pm po! Re: matching of x18 and cxa60. After woofer break-in i can now properly listen and evaluate and no longer need to crank up the volume. Sound is detailed yet not harsh , with excellent separation of the instruments. Volume dial is same when i had wharfe diamond 220 which is at between 9 to 10 oclock just 1/4.probably before going max volume
Yes full bodied and balanced.l across freqs
;D
Post by: banesto on Aug 14, 2020 at 04:49 PM
Sharing feedback from x18 buyer.Very nice to hear that.
Good pm po! Re: matching of x18 and cxa60. After woofer break-in i can now properly listen and evaluate and no longer need to crank up the volume. Sound is detailed yet not harsh , with excellent separation of the instruments. Volume dial is same when i had wharfe diamond 220 which is at between 9 to 10 oclock just 1/4.probably before going max volume
Yes full bodied and balanced.l across freqs
;D
Post by: Deckard on Aug 14, 2020 at 05:14 PM
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Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 14, 2020 at 06:11 PM
Sharing feedback from x18 buyer.
Good pm po! Re: matching of x18 and cxa60. After woofer break-in i can now properly listen and evaluate and no longer need to crank up the volume. Sound is detailed yet not harsh , with excellent separation of the instruments. Volume dial is same when i had wharfe diamond 220 which is at between 9 to 10 oclock just 1/4.probably before going max volume
Yes full bodied and balanced.l across freqs
;D
From Wharf Diamond to Dynaudio? he will be very happy ;D
Post by: Deckard on Aug 23, 2020 at 10:24 AM
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
TIA.
Post by: richardcruz on Aug 23, 2020 at 03:55 PM
Mga master,
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
Kimber Cable 8TC. I use it on my Special 40. Good combination with Dynaudio. Surprised you find yours warm. If anything, Dynaudio are supposed to sound clean, umcolored, clinical (what I like). Some would even find an amp for that warm Brit sound.
TIA.
Post by: oweidah on Aug 23, 2020 at 04:10 PM
mag match kaya sa dynaudio audience42 (if ever?) 86db 4ohms ?
may nagamit na rin ako ibang cables - chord carnival, vdh, kimber, ecosse cs2.3, pati ung napakabigat parang garden hose na straightwire virtuoso ata
Post by: richardcruz on Aug 23, 2020 at 05:03 PM
QED SA XT has been my allrounder speaker cable > among them Mordaunt Short ms20 kef coda7, b&w601s2, b&w602s2, B&Gradia3 with neo3, diy with neo10s/neo3s , epos m5, victor vintage speakers before; now sa Mordaunt Short ms10i, onkyo d-n8, kefls50 and castle knight1; atbp.
mag match kaya sa dynaudio audience42 (if ever?) 86db 4ohms ?
may nagamit na rin ako ibang cables - chord carnival, vdh, kimber, ecosse cs2.3, pati ung napakabigat parang garden hose na straightwire virtuoso ata
I had QED Silver Anniversary before and they matched with my Tannoy Mercury and then my B&W 601 and then B&W 685. But when I switched to my Dynaudio Audience 52, it sounded lean, not like the way the speakers sounded in the LiS showroom. I went back to JR who recommended Transparent (which they carried) and it did the trick, so I bought it. I switched to Focal Chorus 806v (for the more mature sound) but the Transparent cable just didn’t work like the way Chorus sounded in their showroom. The Kimber 8tc cable came along and bought it, and difference was substantial - bass weight, treble shimmer. Have used it on my new acquired Special 40 and still very happy with the combination.
Post by: stevesonk on Aug 23, 2020 at 05:41 PM
Mga master,dynaudio contour 1.4 best suited with transparent plus speaker cable (gen.5) 2.5m, if budget permit.. i heard them @ LIS before & sir jr. along w/ mike gamboa told me the combo reveals the true authentic signature sound of the dynes without any colouration as compare to other cables..
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
TIA.
ohh, before i forgot, make some room treatment for audible result.. ^-^
Post by: richardcruz on Aug 23, 2020 at 06:01 PM
dynaudio contour 1.4 best suited with transparent plus speaker cable (gen.5) 2.5m, if budget permit.. i heard them @ LIS before & sir jr. along w/ mike gamboa told me the combo reveals the true authentic signature sound of the dynes without any colouration as compare to other cables..
ohh, before i forgot, make some room treatment for audible result.. ^-^
Agree. Now, let me go find those Transparent cables again.
Post by: stevesonk on Aug 23, 2020 at 06:03 PM
Agree. Now, let me go find those Transparent cables again.audiohub ph. merun sir.. i think audio pursuit also..
Post by: richardcruz on Aug 23, 2020 at 08:05 PM
audiohub ph. merun sir.. i think audio pursuit also..Meron na ako, hindi ko lang maalala saan ko tinago..
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 23, 2020 at 09:13 PM
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
Also if you are using Brand X as your cable...the internal speaker cables (speaker terminals to passive xover to driver) and coaxial RCA or balanced cables should be replaced as well with the same brand/series to get best results. End to end tawag nila dun sa mod na yun.
Chosuey naman term ng local audiophiles sa system na iba iba brand ng cables from CDP to Pre to Amp to Speakers ;D . Nothing wrong with it if the systems delivers the expected results
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 24, 2020 at 05:55 AM
Transparent itutulak talaga nila JR. benta eh
+1
cable are just 5% emphasis on the whole system, buying the expensive ones gives us a huge wealth of emotion although it is just really deceiving us ;D
these are just my 2cents
Post by: banesto on Aug 24, 2020 at 10:47 AM
Correct
+1
cable are just 5% emphasis on the whole system, buying the expensive ones gives us a huge wealth of emotion although it is just really deceiving us ;D
these are just my 2cents
Post by: banesto on Aug 24, 2020 at 10:54 AM
Transparent itutulak talaga nila JR. benta eh though its not the end all and be all for Dynaudio'sYes bro Hector tama ka.
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
Also if you are using Brand X as your cable...the internal speaker cables (speaker terminals to passive xover to driver) and coaxial RCA or balanced cables should be replaced as well with the same brand/series to get best results. End to end tawag nila dun sa mod na yun.
Chosuey naman term ng local audiophiles sa system na iba iba brand ng cables from CDP to Pre to Amp to Speakers ;D . Nothing wrong with it if the systems delivers the expected results
Post by: MrDeckard on Aug 24, 2020 at 11:05 AM
Transparent itutulak talaga nila JR. benta eh though its not the end all and be all for Dynaudio's
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
Also if you are using Brand X as your cable...the internal speaker cables (speaker terminals to passive xover to driver) and coaxial RCA or balanced cables should be replaced as well with the same brand/series to get best results. End to end tawag nila dun sa mod na yun.
Chosuey naman term ng local audiophiles sa system na iba iba brand ng cables from CDP to Pre to Amp to Speakers ;D . Nothing wrong with it if the systems delivers the expected results
Thank you. Where can you find these OCOS? Cant seem to locate them anywhere.
Post by: MrDeckard on Aug 24, 2020 at 11:08 AM
+1
cable are just 5% emphasis on the whole system, buying the expensive ones gives us a huge wealth of emotion although it is just really deceiving us ;D
these are just my 2cents
Agree with this. But at the same time, I have had experience that cables matter when already have the main items down pat. Matching cables with systems need not be expensive.
What would you recommend ?
Post by: MrDeckard on Aug 24, 2020 at 11:12 AM
Contour s1.4 le (a dyna known to be darker than the rest.)
Rel T7 Sub
Hegel H190 (this is a new one; having shifted from a Plinius SA 300. I like the hegel better by lot).
Cambrigde CXN
Cables -- QED SA Silver / Mogami
The room is semi treated with sound deadening panels.
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Aug 24, 2020 at 11:16 AM
Dynes are voiced using OCOS. Internal wires of your Dynaudio's are OCOS brand. OCOS is developed by Dynaudio. What other brand is better than the one the manufacturer used in tuning the speakers. OCOS (Optimal Connection System) cables are available in the US via Sumiko (dealer of REL).
Can I get the link for this info? According to Stereophile, Van den Hul was used for Special 40. Also, didn't they close down in 2011?
https://www.stereophile.com/content/dynaudio-special-forty-loudspeaker (https://www.stereophile.com/content/dynaudio-special-forty-loudspeaker)
"The Special Forty's internal wiring of OFC copper is sourced from van den Hul, and electrical connection is via a single pair of high-quality binding posts below the port."
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 24, 2020 at 11:38 AM
I dont have a link to it but I sent an email back in 2010 to Dynaudio asking for the same thing....what is their recommendation for cabling Dynes. I usually get recommendations from the manufacturer instead of Forums. By doing so I get it from the guys that really know the product. I wasnt expecting an answer but surprisingly they replied. They didn't point out a brand for me to buy but instead they gave a very diplomatic answer: "any properly designed cable with low resistance will do" but they specifically mentioned that they use an inexpensive brand which is OCOS in tuning and cabling the speakers internally. Owediah was asking for the optimal cabling of his A42 which is a model that is around that production period. Madaming members ng Audiogon are still loyal to OCOS cables.
Add to that there no technological break through or advancements in Cables. Been the same for the last 20 years. No need to go with the Jonases on whats new for 2021 for cables. Same thing yan...same material...just wrapped up in a new sleeve and given flowery reviews by sponsored writers.
For VDH you need to go all the way otherwise the result is hit and miss. I went end to end with VDH back in 2011 (CPD, Pre, Amp and speaker cables). Mawawala yung extreme bite ng High Freq while the bass and mid will be more pronounced. Thats was the result with Classe. YMMV though
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 24, 2020 at 11:46 AM
To give an idea of my system:
Contour s1.4 le (a dyna known to be darker than the rest.)
Rel T7 Sub
Hegel H190 (this is a new one; having shifted from a Plinius SA 300. I like the hegel better by lot).
Cambrigde CXN
Cables -- QED SA Silver / Mogami
The room is semi treated with sound deadening panels.
MrDeckard
I have a spare set of VDH Shot Gun Revelations speaker cables that are spade lug terminated on both ends. Not selling them but I can lend it to you, Paglaruan mo muna and see if you like the outcome. Have it picked up and return it once you are done. Wala pa yung new amp ko so naka tambak lang dito.
Yan din set up ko before. Contour + REL with VDH all the way.
Post by: Conan on Aug 24, 2020 at 12:07 PM
Mga master,
What speaker cable would you recommend to nuetralize the warmish Contour s1.4 .le? Am currently using a QED XT Silver Anniversary. Wondering if there's a a better alternative. Using a hegel h190 Amp.
TIA.
You can try Chord EpicX available at Architectural Audio.
https://chord.co.uk/product/epic-speaker-cable/
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Aug 24, 2020 at 04:31 PM
Hi Alvin,
I dont have a link to it but I sent an email back in 2010 to Dynaudio asking for the same thing....what is their recommendation for cabling Dynes. I usually get recommendations from the manufacturer instead of Forums. By doing so I get it from the guys that really know the product. I wasnt expecting an answer but surprisingly they replied. They didn't point out a brand for me to buy but instead they gave a very diplomatic answer: "any properly designed cable with low resistance will do" but they specifically mentioned that they use an inexpensive brand which is OCOS in tuning and cabling the speakers internally. Owediah was asking for the optimal cabling of his A42 which is a model that is around that production period. Madaming members ng Audiogon are still loyal to OCOS cables.
Add to that there no technological break through or advancements in Cables. Been the same for the last 20 years. No need to go with the Jonases on whats new for 2021 for cables. Same thing yan...same material...just wrapped up in a new sleeve and given flowery reviews by sponsored writers.
For VDH you need to go all the way otherwise the result is hit and miss. I went end to end with VDH back in 2011 (CPD, Pre, Amp and speaker cables). Mawawala yung extreme bite ng High Freq while the bass and mid will be more pronounced. Thats was the result with Classe. YMMV though
No problem with old cables (with the exception of oxidation of cu ), just really interested on internal wirings of speakers and amps... e.g. higher end models of Totem use pure silver, but surprisingly, they went with platinum plated WBT binding posts instead of silver. Anyway, problem with OCOS is that its not readily available anymore.
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 24, 2020 at 06:01 PM
Agree with this. But at the same time, I have had experience that cables matter when already have the main items down pat. Matching cables with systems need not be expensive.
What would you recommend ?
I never tried DYNS but I have SONUS FABER Signums w/c is also very hard to drive, cables linking them to the amps are VDH "The Wind" (from J.R. also ;D , a mere 27yrs ago to be exact), they're old kinds but in pure silver, brings out the punch & adds a lightness to the warm side. As for the warmth you want to tame, silver internal cables usually does the job for that than the copper ones. I'm not familiar w/ the QED XT Silver Anniversary if they have pure silver internals I think it would have done the job already.
The Transparent Cable they are recommending would also help probably coz they have those network boxes w/c contains a network of small coils & resistors circuity to smooth out the SQ. The best way is to test trial & error but that's if they allow to lend their speaker cable or maybe bring the speakers to the desired store.
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 24, 2020 at 07:41 PM
No problem with old cables (with the exception of oxidation of cu ), just really interested on internal wirings of speakers and amps... e.g. higher end models of Totem use pure silver, but surprisingly, they went with platinum plated WBT binding posts instead of silver. Anyway, problem with OCOS is that its not readily available anymore.
Indeed they are elusive already, kahit sa Audiogon when one is put up for sale it gets snapped up really fast.
Iba iba naman application ng users sa cables. Some just replace the main speakers cable and notice a change while on the other hand there are a few who are really hard core and replace the internal speakers cabling as well. Their school of thought is that replacing the cable from amp to speaker will net a change but not absolute since the internal speaker wires are mismatched already. Medyo invasive lang yung application na yun since it requires that the speaker is disassembled and rewired. Some even go the whole hog by replacing all solder points with "audiophile grade" solder wire
Iba ibang level ng kahibangan so to speak ;D
Post by: synchro_01 on Aug 24, 2020 at 07:46 PM
I never tried DYNS but I have SONUS FABER Signums w/c is also very hard to drive, cables linking them to the amps are VDH "The Wind" (from J.R. also ;D , a mere 27yrs ago to be exact), they're old kinds but in pure silver, brings out the punch & adds a lightness to the warm side. As for the warmth you want to tame, silver internal cables usually does the job for that than the copper ones. I'm not familiar w/ the QED XT Silver Anniversary if they have pure silver internals I think it would have done the job already.
The Transparent Cable they are recommending would also help probably coz they have those network boxes w/c contains a network of small coils & resistors circuity to smooth out the SQ. The best way is to test trial & error but that's if they allow to lend their speaker cable or maybe bring the speakers to the desired store.
My VDH set came from the man himself as well....JR Pecauco. Yun lang it isnt silver but Hybrid carbon. Yung bagong labas nila Carbon Nano Tube material na. Zero metal in its construction. It probably costs as much as a car and the brochure will probably state that "you will hear angels singing in your listening room" ;D
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Aug 24, 2020 at 08:21 PM
My VDH set came from the man himself as well....JR Pecauco. Yun lang it isnt silver but Hybrid carbon. Yung bagong labas nila Carbon Nano Tube material na. Zero metal in its construction. It probably costs as much as a car and the brochure will probably state that "you will hear angels singing in your listening room" ;D
Probably more like we as the Audience will have more Confidence :)
Post by: drhiredgun on Sep 12, 2020 at 08:02 PM
Post by: t-bone on Sep 13, 2020 at 02:19 AM
My VDH set came from the man himself as well....JR Pecauco. Yun lang it isnt silver but Hybrid carbon. Yung bagong labas nila Carbon Nano Tube material na. Zero metal in its construction. It probably costs as much as a car and the brochure will probably state that "you will hear angels singing in your listening room" ;D
Sayang nung Typhoon Ondoy, the flood in Marikina destroyed a warehouse full of Dynaudios ni JR. Millions washed away...
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Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 13, 2020 at 12:33 PM
Salamat po, sir. Any mid-range speaker system that you could suggest that would have a satisfying base for rock music without the need for a subwoofer?
How big is the room? enclosed or open type? target amp that you will use?
Post by: stevesonk on Sep 13, 2020 at 12:34 PM
Post by: drhiredgun on Sep 13, 2020 at 01:38 PM
How big is the room? enclosed or open type? target amp that you will use?
About 24 sqm, 7 feet po ata ceiling. Amps: most likely 125watts per channel Proceed, alternative Cyrus or NAD 326. I want po sana speakers with satisfying base for some rock genre para no need for subwoofer. I actually like the Zensor 3 (and surpisingly the Klipsch RP150 is also ok), pero at times I want more brute. I still have some Audio Nirvana 10 Classic drivers to be assembled, but I don't know if they will do. Salamat po
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Post by: richardcruz on Sep 13, 2020 at 04:46 PM
Heard both and owned so many dyns i still consider dyns
Same here, I owned and auditioned other speakers, I always ended up with Dyns. Back to the question, it’s not just the rated power of the amp, but the quality that brings out the musicality of a Dynaudio. I’ve heard it best paired with Plinius and Musical Fidelity amps though mid range ones like Roksan and Rega also paired well with it. I owned both Audience 42 abd 52 and thought the 42 was the best reference monitor for pure stereo listening
Post by: shoktongxxx on Sep 17, 2020 at 09:12 PM
Salamat po. Would hunt for some 52's. Also thinking of Q acoustics 3050i. Mukhang ok naman po review. If budget permits, would love to scratch the Dyne itch. Salamat po uli.
uy maganda din yung Q acoustics na demo ko sa Hi-Fi Lounge before pero compare sa Dyns iba details ng Dyns eh lalo na soundsig nya angat na angat eh for me ha. :)
Post by: sientobente on Oct 04, 2020 at 08:35 PM
Lately I got a Matrix Audio Element M Streamer/DAC, and it is a complete joy to listen to. It sounded very realistic, with the eerily dead black background you can hear nuisances and imperfections in the recording easily. It's like god gifted you with super hearing abilities. Not yet done with tweaks, will experiment with cables next.
Post by: dukesociety on Nov 23, 2020 at 12:23 PM
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Post by: SETUP™ on Nov 23, 2020 at 02:02 PM
Dynaudio sale again sa audio pursuits!
Oh my.. :o :o
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 02, 2020 at 11:34 PM
Dynaudio sale again sa audio pursuits!
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ang dami nga sale kahit dito eh, nakuha ng 50% off tapos benta mas mataas...hahaha ;D ::) >:D
Post by: dukesociety on Dec 02, 2020 at 11:37 PM
ang dami nga sale kahit dito eh, nakuha ng 50% off tapos benta mas mataas...hahaha ;D ::) >:D
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Post by: mousemouse on Feb 05, 2021 at 11:38 AM
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Feb 05, 2021 at 01:52 PM
Has anyone tried Rega amps and Dynaudio speakers? I'm planning on upgrading my amp this year and was able to demo the Rega Elicit-R and like it a lot with my special fortiesWhat are you currently using now and what are your other choices?
I've had the Rega Elicit and SP40, and it was a fun exciting brand of listen, though the Elicit will recess the mids. I personally preferred a 30w class A Pioneer M22, as it sounded much cleaner and the mids a bit more forward.
That said, you should go for what you've heard and liked, rather than anyone tell you that you need tubes, or more power, etc.
Post by: mousemouse on Feb 05, 2021 at 03:26 PM
What are you currently using now and what are your other choices?
I've had the Rega Elicit and SP40, and it was a fun exciting brand of listen, though the Elicit will recess the mids. I personally preferred a 30w class A Pioneer M22, as it sounded much cleaner and the mids a bit more forward.
That said, you should go for what you've heard and liked, rather than anyone tell you that you need tubes, or more power, etc.
I use the emotiva pt100 pre amp and a300 150w power amp set. These sounded good before i upgraded my speakers. Its still okay now, but I was able to demo the Rega Elicit last month with the Special 40s and liked what I heard. I'm not in a rush to buy so I want to try some other amps before I buy.
When you had your Elicits, did you have a problem with listening fatigue? Also did it get too hot at times?
thanks!
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Feb 05, 2021 at 04:41 PM
As for heat, it does get hot if you use it more than 2-3 hours at high volume without aircon, but never experienced thermal shutdown.
Post by: synchro_01 on Feb 05, 2021 at 04:47 PM
Post by: mousemouse on Feb 07, 2021 at 08:34 AM
I didn't get listening fatigue, but my tolerance is high except for Musical Fidelity for some reason ;D.
As for heat, it does get hot if you use it more than 2-3 hours at high volume without aircon, but never experienced thermal shutdown.
haha i see. Have you tried paring Yamaha Amplifiers with your Dynaudios? The AS1200 and AS2200 are not too far from the price range but I have only listened to them using other speakers.. I like the Rega sound but its visually not too appealing for me haha. The analog amps from Yamaha and Luxman (at 2x the price) have nice VU meters and tone controls. I know my decision shouldn't include looks, but if I can get looks and sound, then why not.
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Feb 07, 2021 at 01:21 PM
*Add: You might want to look at Plinius as well; while it doesn't have VUs of the Yamaha, it does look solid and they have a mild curve at the bass and treble which gives Dynes a bit of fresh air without losing the mids too much. Plus the bass textures are quite superb, among the best I've heard.
Post by: Deckard on Feb 07, 2021 at 03:29 PM
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Post by: t-bone on Feb 07, 2021 at 03:58 PM
Dynaudio sale again sa audio pursuits!
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Sarado na Audio Pursuits....
Ang bilis ah :(
Post by: Own7 on Feb 07, 2021 at 05:01 PM
Sarado na Audio Pursuits....
Ang bilis ah :(
You mean yung showroom nila sa geenhills o talagang di na nag ooperate?
Kakukuha ko pa lang sa kanila nung dec. marami pa sila mga items pero
Sa del monte na warehouse nila.
Post by: Conan on Feb 08, 2021 at 10:59 AM
Sarado na Audio Pursuits....
Ang bilis ah :(
They have a post in their Facebook Page today.
https://www.facebook.com/audiopursuits/photos/a.574603592733060/1573094636217279/
Post by: mousemouse on Feb 09, 2021 at 05:53 PM
Sorry, it's been a while since I 've heard an AS3000. I actually like the Yammies as they have the mid meatiness that I prefer though some of my friends found it too boring. Given your preference with the Rega, you might find it too boring as well, but perhaps the latest models have changed.
*Add: You might want to look at Plinius as well; while it doesn't have VUs of the Yamaha, it does look solid and they have a mild curve at the bass and treble which gives Dynes a bit of fresh air without losing the mids too much. Plus the bass textures are quite superb, among the best I've heard.
thanks! I will take a look at Plinius, Musical fidelity and Hegel as well.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Feb 09, 2021 at 06:53 PM
Tried Rega, m fidelity and plinius over time, and finslly settled with a hegel for my contour s1.4 le.
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uy Hegel, maganda din sa SP40 yan. :)
Post by: stevesonk on Feb 09, 2021 at 07:22 PM
Post by: mousemouse on Feb 10, 2021 at 03:45 PM
Would HegeI H95 with 65w/ch be okay for sp40s? or would you recommend something else.
Post by: stevesonk on Feb 10, 2021 at 06:39 PM
who carries hegel and plinius? Dati meron si audio pursuits but i found out about them during the pandemic and they didnt open their showroom na. Hegel is carried by architectural audio ba?dati sa listening in style kaso sarado na, checkout at AVDI.. pm their facebook page.. ^-^
Would HegeI H95 with 65w/ch be okay for sp40s? or would you recommend something else.
Post by: Deckard on Feb 10, 2021 at 07:12 PM
For SP40, go H190
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Feb 11, 2021 at 03:05 PM
Panalo yang Hegel sa SP40, go for H390. No regrets. Hindi nakaka sawang makinig.
yup! teka bulungan mo ako sa Hegel mo ah pag sawa ka na.. ;D ::)
Post by: jh@meeh on Feb 11, 2021 at 07:14 PM
yup! teka bulungan mo ako sa Hegel mo ah pag sawa ka na.. ;D ::)
ahehihohuh yan bro..binulong ko na 😆
Post by: shoktongxxx on Feb 12, 2021 at 11:00 AM
ahehihohuh yan bro..binulong ko na 😆
haha..baliw..😆😆
Post by: cia on Mar 08, 2021 at 07:54 AM
Thanks
Post by: Own7 on Mar 08, 2021 at 08:41 AM
Who is the Authorized Distributor of Dynaudio and contact info, please.
Thanks
Manila audio club buksan mo fb nila, kontac person si mac edgar.
Post by: cia on Mar 08, 2021 at 02:55 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Apr 05, 2021 at 08:27 PM
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Post by: Conan on Apr 05, 2021 at 08:29 PM
Made in China.. :'(
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What model?
Post by: shoktongxxx on Apr 05, 2021 at 08:31 PM
What model?
Evoke not sure if 10 or 20 bro.
Post by: alvinbaronsia on Apr 05, 2021 at 09:37 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Apr 05, 2021 at 09:51 PM
Yan na ung mga bago? May mga nakita akong mga Made in Denmark na Evoke 10 and 20 but unang labas pa.
oo mga bago yan, gawa sa China..talo sa quality ang layo compare sa made in Denmark tapos same lang price..kadismaya ay.
Post by: oweidah on Apr 05, 2021 at 10:53 PM
just type: dynaudiio chin
2014 nabili na
Post by: synchro_01 on Apr 06, 2021 at 12:57 AM
Post by: mousemouse on Jun 01, 2021 at 01:33 PM
Since I saved money on the amp, now I can buy a CD player! lol
Post by: cia on Jun 05, 2021 at 03:46 PM
Will now have to exercise patience for the not too short burn in hours.
Post by: stevesonk on Jul 11, 2021 at 03:35 PM
Post by: TeddyCuds on Jun 17, 2022 at 09:58 AM
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 17, 2022 at 01:59 PM
is Dynaudio XEO 2 still a good buy for 2022 onwards?
If the price and condition is fair...any Dynaudio for that matter is a good buy and will serve you for years to come. My Dynes have been with me for almost 18 years na. Yes I forked out a lot when I acquired them but each time I use them I never got the urge to replace them. For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market. I auditioned a few just out of curiosity and while I was impressed, I walked away saying to myself that it was the house sound of Dynaudio that I heard....something that hasn't changed for years.
The only time I will probably replace my old model Dynes is when I get an opportunity to go after a Special model or a step up in the model range.
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 17, 2022 at 04:14 PM
If the price and condition is fair...any Dynaudio for that matter is a good buy and will serve you for years to come. My Dynes have been with me for almost 18 years na. Yes I forked out a lot when I acquired them but each time I use them I never got the urge to replace them. For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market. I auditioned a few just out of curiosity and while I was impressed, I walked away saying to myself that it was the house sound of Dynaudio that I heard....something that hasn't changed for years.heritage special na upgrade mo sir..!! :D
The only time I will probably replace my old model Dynes is when I get an opportunity to go after a Special model or a step up in the model range.
Post by: TeddyCuds on Jun 17, 2022 at 09:18 PM
If the price and condition is fair...any Dynaudio for that matter is a good buy and will serve you for years to come. My Dynes have been with me for almost 18 years na. Yes I forked out a lot when I acquired them but each time I use them I never got the urge to replace them. For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market. I auditioned a few just out of curiosity and while I was impressed, I walked away saying to myself that it was the house sound of Dynaudio that I heard....something that hasn't changed for years.
The only time I will probably replace my old model Dynes is when I get an opportunity to go after a Special model or a step up in the model range.
Thanks Sir for the advice!
Post by: qguy on Jun 18, 2022 at 12:53 PM
For me the newer models (in the same model range ha) offer very little incremental sonic improvement over the old ones. They just made it easier to drive so that they can sell to much larger market.
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 18, 2022 at 08:47 PM
True, I was searching for reviews on Dynaudio and one review compared the older model vs the new one. The frequency response is virtually identical. sadly I forgot the model, but it was bookshelf mode in the Audience or Emit range
Well in that case I am happy that I am not the only one that has that conclusion hehehe.
When you have a very good product, its very difficult to improve on it without screwing up the winning attributes that made the product a winner in the first place. Screw up the sound and you have a model range that will be compared as inferior to the old models that it replaced. Even if you screw up the pricing...why would you buy a much more expensive model that sound exactly the same as the old model? What these Danish folks did was to carefully make their speaker easier to drive but they retained that distinct Dyn sound which for me can be described as: Dynamic, Punchy, Smooth Mids and tame top end.
Are they the best speakers that money can buy? Definitely not.,...but if you fall in love with them it can be a love affair that lasts for decades. Yung ibang speakers parang fling lang eh. After a year pinagiisipan mo na ilagay sa market place.
Post by: cia on Jun 19, 2022 at 02:51 PM
Both models prefer more power if using Class A/B amplification. For Class A watts, however, even 25 wpc, drive both models loud enough for me.
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 19, 2022 at 03:03 PM
I still have the Special 25 which I bought in 2005. Last year June, I added the Heritage Special. The Heritage is more detailed and dynamic compared to the 25s. Comparing the sound quality, the 25 is great for background music while the Heritage is for serious listening. Bass is more from the 25 while mids and highs are preferred from the Heritage.magkano kuha mo boss sa heritage special..? 2 lang ata available dito sa pinas nyan ah.. ::)
Both models prefer more power if using Class A/B amplification. For Class A watts, however, even 25 wpc, drive both models loud enough for me.
Post by: cia on Jun 20, 2022 at 08:13 AM
Post by: Own7 on Jun 28, 2022 at 10:00 AM
heritage special. from 380k to 430k for the new stocks.
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 28, 2022 at 12:40 PM
grabe pricing ng bago stocks ng430k message sakin & less 5% in cash or online payment ng heritage special.. sakit sa bulsang butas.. :'( :'(
heritage special. from 380k to 430k for the new stocks.
Post by: Own7 on Jun 28, 2022 at 02:38 PM
430k message sakin & less 5% in cash or online payment ng heritage special.. sakit sa bulsang butas.. :'( :'(
Bili kana parekoy baka tumaas
Ulit srp.😁
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 28, 2022 at 04:35 PM
ga-bundok na niyog kelangan simutin at maipagbili pra lang sa speeaker.. ;D
Bili kana parekoy baka tumaas
Ulit srp.😁
pero naisip ko lang setup:
dynaudio heritage special- P430k (less 5%)
Luxman L-509x- P479k
aurender A200- P300k
Luxman D-03x- P186.94k
Nordost Heimdal 2- P91k (sp) P46.8k ((int. rca)
ISOTEK V5 Aquarius- P150k
ISOTEK Elite- P41.34k (x 2pcs)
ISOTEK OPTIMUM- P62.14k
Dynaudio Plate & Stand- P31.2k
total: P1,859,760 :o dyosko po rudy..
Post by: Own7 on Jun 28, 2022 at 09:35 PM
Naman😆
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 28, 2022 at 09:52 PM
ga-bundok na niyog kelangan simutin at maipagbili pra lang sa speeaker.. ;D
pero naisip ko lang setup:
dynaudio heritage special- P430k (less 5%)
Luxman 509x- P479k
aurender A200- P300k
Luxman D-03x- P186.94
Nordost Heimdal 2- P91k (sp) P46.8k ((int. rca)
ISOTEK V5 Aquarius- P150k
ISOTEK Elite- P41.34(x 2pcs)
ISOTEK OPTIMUM- P62.14k
Dynaudio Plate & Stand- P31.2k
total: P1,859,760 :o dyosko po rudy..
Kaya mo yan bro. Actually kailangan mo pa ilagay sa isang optimized room yan so you get to squeeze all the performance it can deliver. Kung may spare room ka dyan eh pwedeng gastusan mo na yung room ng 500K including A/C, basic treatments, lighting, carpet, media storage and a good listening chair.
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 28, 2022 at 10:09 PM
Pre tanggalin mo na yung plate ang luho molahat ng yan 1 price ng vitus amp mo sir.. :D
Naman😆
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 28, 2022 at 10:12 PM
Kaya mo yan bro. Actually kailangan mo pa ilagay sa isang optimized room yan so you get to squeeze all the performance it can deliver. Kung may spare room ka dyan eh pwedeng gastusan mo na yung room ng 500K including A/C, basic treatments, lighting, carpet, media storage and a good listening chair.mag dilang anghel ka sana sir.., tama ka sir, kelangan pa ng dedicated acoustically treated room.. another 200k! aabutin pala mga 2m..
ngii..!
Post by: synchro_01 on Jun 29, 2022 at 12:00 AM
mag dilang anghel ka sana sir.., tama ka sir, kelangan pa ng dedicated acoustically treated room.. another 200k! aabutin pala mga 2m..
ngii..!
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig mo
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 29, 2022 at 01:16 AM
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig mofor that 2m.. ::) wilson audio sabrina (1st gen) + boulder 866 int amp pasok din, bitin sa budget sa cables (transparent) ::)
Post by: Own7 on Jun 29, 2022 at 07:56 AM
for that 2m.. ::) wilson audio sabrina (1st gen) + boulder 866 int amp pasok din, bitin sa budget sa cables (transparent) ::)
Yes pre. Masyado overprice na dynaudio. Nakinig ako nung bago nila confidence
C30 pre hindi ko gusto talaga, wilson the best yan pinagsisihan ko hanggang
Ngayun pag benta ko ng sasha 2 pero end game sa akin raidho, yg acoustics.
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 29, 2022 at 08:07 AM
dami mo nman speakers.., ung dynaudio consequence medyo bright sa pandinig ko, ung confidence c4 pakiramdam ko pinipisa dibdib ko gawa ng tight bass.. (sa listening in style room) ???
Yes pre. Masyado overprice na dynaudio. Nakinig ako nung bago nila confidence
C30 pre hindi ko gusto talaga, wilson the best yan pinagsisihan ko hanggang
Ngayun pag benta ko ng sasha 2 pero end game sa akin raidho, yg acoustics.
ung wilson audio alexia 1 parang live performance sa piano..!
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 29, 2022 at 08:20 AM
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig motempting ung bago ng dyns na emit 30 floorstanding loudspeaker! maganda mga reviews.. only downside, made in china.. :D
Post by: Own7 on Jun 29, 2022 at 08:24 AM
dami mo nman speakers.., ung dynaudio consequence medyo bright sa pandinig ko, ung confidence c4 pakiramdam ko pinipisa dibdib ko gawa ng tight bass.. (sa listening in style room) ???
ung wilson audio alexia 1 parang live performance sa piano..!
Wala pa ako raidho at yg. Pangarap pa lang bro. Tama ka alexia 2
Narinig ko napaka ganda speakers tumunog napaka taas lang
Ng resale ng wilson.
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 29, 2022 at 08:36 AM
alexia 1 boss nadinig ko nuon, sa raidho acoustics AAVIK amp ata bagay, sa yg acoustics, Krell amp bagay..(illusion ll xd series o k300i int) ::)
Wala pa ako raidho at yg. Pangarap pa lang bro. Tama ka alexia 2
Narinig ko napaka ganda speakers tumunog napaka taas lang
Ng resale ng wilson.
Post by: richardcruz on Jun 29, 2022 at 08:43 AM
What is 2M for your happiness hehehe but in the meantime while saving up, you can purchase a lower model Dynaudio, a reasonable amp, source components and bottle of Johnny Black. Pang 4 na shot mo parang Heritage na naririnig mo
Tama! Ako, I've been through some of the Dynaudio range - started my "love affair" with the brand with the Audience 42, then Audience 52, Special 40 then downgraded to my current Emit M10, and happy pa rin naman ako. All throughout my journey with the brand, I still enjoyed the Dyne house sound that was transparent, tight (and not muddy as with other brands) bass, expressive (not veiled) mids and glorious (not sibilant) highs. The only differences with the Special 40 were the more expansive soundstage and higher definition sound (parang difference between HD sa 4k). And that's the good thing about Dynaudio, hindi sila "madamot" to give a sample peek or preview into their house sound even at their entry level models. Good marketing strategy too, because they "bait" those new to hi-fi audio to ensure a steady entry of new customers and then tempt them to upgrade further up the range.
Post by: richardcruz on Jun 29, 2022 at 08:55 AM
tempting ung bago ng dyns na emit 30 floorstanding loudspeaker! maganda mga reviews.. only downside, made in china.. :D
The reviews are very good for the new Emit 30. Kahit naman made in China na, components and technology (even if manufactured in other countries) and most importantly, the "voicing" are done by Dynaudio's R&D center in Denmark which has the X-Men's Magneto's looking sound isolation chamber.
https://www.dynaudio.com/dynaudio-academy/2018/december/how-jupiter-delivers-dynaudio-s-trademark-quality
Post by: stevesonk on Jun 29, 2022 at 09:04 AM
The reviews are very good for the new Emit 30. Kahit naman made in China na, components and technology are still Denmark.kahit assembled in china, sa qc sila bumawi.. :D pero napadikit padin sa word/country na "china" ;D
Post by: stevesonk on Apr 02, 2024 at 01:35 AM
Post by: Own7 on Apr 02, 2024 at 05:42 AM
Got a pm from dynaudio manila, dipa pala ngmumura price ng confidence 20, bnew P780k srp.. :'(
try mo revival audio atalante. according to some a "giant killer" itong
bagong brand na ito. me nabasa ako na mas gusto nya yung atalante 3
vs dynaudio heritage.
Post by: Deckard on Apr 02, 2024 at 07:21 PM
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Post by: Own7 on Apr 02, 2024 at 07:47 PM
Is the Revival sold locally?
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yes. audio amplified ang dealer.
Post by: stevesonk on Apr 27, 2024 at 04:40 PM
try mo revival audio atalante. according to some a "giant killer" itongyung mag partner pala ng revival audio ay dating empleyado ng dynaudio.. ;D ;D chief designer engineer.. ;D
bagong brand na ito. me nabasa ako na mas gusto nya yung atalante 3
vs dynaudio heritage.