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Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
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Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
Hey Warpzone18,
Welcome to PinoyDVD!!
You might want to check out this thread
Recommended Digital Processor/Receiver (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=999754217&start=0)
Yamaha and Wharfdale Speakers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=993177127&start=0)
Sensui Speakers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=1000255477&start=0)
Home Theater on a Budget (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=990526278&start=0)
Dolby Prologic Processor (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=999566536&start=0)
Starting a Budget Home Theater (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=999239123&start=0)
Thanks
woodie520 ;D
updated links 01/22/02 -bently
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Try going to electronics depot and check Dolby Pro Logic-II of Denon. I think they are on sale now.
Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
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Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
Hi Warpzone! Don't I know you from somewhere? ;-)
Yeah, why don't you check out Electronics Depot since you're
just within the vicinity...I also saw Yamaha recievers on sale at Listening Room at Megamall the other day. Not sure
about their (Yamaha's) performance though.
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MAyroon kayang ganun combination ang electronic depot for my budget, 30-40k?
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if your budget wont fit just get a receiver and two speakers then add ka nalang next time. Dont get a model you dont like, para lang you can complete your system, you will regret it in the future
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or check mo yung binibenta ni JT sa asstd. buy and sell na HTIB na pioneer P28K lang at mas mababa pa sa budget mo. but if you want then i would go for levi's suggestion get an good entry level receiver and a pair of good front pair of speakers and add other speakers for the center, rear and subwoofer when budget permits.
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Yes, I think it is the Denon AVR-1602 and Denon floor standing speakers combination.
MAyroon kayang ganun combination ang electronic depot for my budget, 30-40k?
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Just activating old threads
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Levi,
Some of the links lead to nowhere (Recommended Digital Processor/Receiver, Starting a Budget Home Theater).
The other threads I didnt check anymore.
FYI.
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Levi,
Some of the links lead to nowhere (Recommended Digital Processor/Receiver, Starting a Budget Home Theater).
The other threads I didnt check anymore.
FYI.
Hi Levi,
Kenshin is right, you'll find the given links of thread not existing anymore. Pls advise.
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thanks, for the heads up, kenshin :)
when we created the subfolders the address on the different threads where changed.
the links are now updated and should work:
Recommended Digital Processor/Receiver (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=999754217&start=0)
Yamaha and Wharfdale Speakers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=993177127&start=0)
Sensui Speakers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=1000255477&start=0)
Home Theater on a Budget (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=990526278&start=0)
Dolby Prologic Processor (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=999566536&start=0)
Starting a Budget Home Theater (http://www.pinoydvd.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?board=htaudio&action=display&num=999239123&start=0)
bently
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Agree ako sa sinabi nun iba.
Buy a DENON or a YAMAHA amplifier and buy good floor standing speakers muna. Pag me panggastos ka uli, dun ka na bumili ng center and surround speakers plus subwoofer. ;D
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Pioneer, may tanong ako.. if i only buy the front speakers, then i watch dvd with 5.1/dts, what will be the result? what will the sound be like? kung walang center, eh di walang dialogue? ganun ba yun?
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Pioneer, may tanong ako.. if i only buy the front speakers, then i watch dvd with 5.1/dts, what will be the result? what will the sound be like? kung walang center, eh di walang dialogue? ganun ba yun?
Furry,
If you only have two speakers, tell your receiver to output in stereo.
You'd be amazed what can ba achieved with a good receiver and a decent stereo pair of speakers (say an entry-level Onkyo & PSB/Paradigm/DM 300/Tannoy) vs. a watered-down-by-budget choice of electronics and so-so speakers.
Let's face it, this hobby is not cheap. Be patient and do it right. :)
Good luck.
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yo furry,
pwede mo i-set sa phantom yung center mo so may dialogue ka na rin coming from your front speakers. ;)
as for your surround manghiram ka na lang muna ng speakers sa mga mini compos pero iset mo lang sa low level yung volume ng rear speakers kasi baka hindi kayanin ng mini compo speakers! :)
so there you can enjoy na your dvds in 5.1/DTS 8)
Blade. 8)
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thank you all... i already bought a receiver and 6.1 speaker system.. thanks pinoydvd!
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thank you all... i already bought a receiver and 6.1 speaker system.. thanks pinoydvd!
thats great!...tell us some details naman as to the brand and performance of your new set-up :)
and if you need help in calibrating your system...i'm sure there are alot of members who are more than willing to help!
basta lang merong kasamang tsibog! :D
bently
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Congrats Warpzone! :) What's ur setup and are the neighbors complaining already? :) hehehehe we are very interested to know. You made it through bro.. hehehehe..
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Thanks rtsy and blade. I'll have my HT soon, konting tiis na lang. I'm amazed at the knowledge i've gained just by browsing through this forum. It's amazing!
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Guess i overshoot my budget (more that 3 times ata).... hehehe but at least am very very satisfied... :-)
Receiver - Onkyo 797
Front -B&W 303
Center - LCR3
Surrounds - B&W 2003
Center Rear - LCR3
Subs - ASW1000
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Anybody knows how much ONKYO TX-DS595 costs there?
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Anybody knows how much ONKYO TX-DS595 costs there?
Hey JT
That model goes for around 22-26K here :)
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Hey JT
That model goes for around 22-26K here :)
Hey thanks jay_cee_em. Hmmm ... halos pareho rin pala ang presyo nung binebenta sa akin dito. Another question, anong mga reciever ang merong DTS/DD5.1 decoder atsaka 6 channel RCA output?
note: hindi ito trivia ha ... naghahanap lang talaga ko ng ganitong reciever.
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Hi guys, anybody here knows where to buy JBL N38 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker ? and how much ?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00002EQC5.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
:)
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Hi guys, anybody here knows where to buy JBL N38 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker ? and how much ?
:)
Hi radzeykimosabi,
You can check out Sights and Sounds Shangrila... I think I saw a pair of those dun sa back. Look for Jun or Tok 6383724
You can also check out Focal in Greenhills they carry JBL... look for Eriz 7263751.
If you really want to check out their SRP, I saw a display of JBL stuff at the SM Appliance Center in Rockwell Powerplant mall. They have the price tags on them.
A warning to you: those speakers are HUGE! :o I wanted to get a pair before, but I got turned off by their size when I saw them!
Good Luck! :)
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Hi meowpao, thanks for the info, it's a big help. :)
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Hi guys, anybody here knows where to buy JBL N38 3-Way Floorstanding Speaker ? and how much ?
(http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B00002EQC5.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg)
:)
Checkout the audio shop at the 5th floor megamall infront of upscale ( audio studio ata ). I saw them selling JBL speakers. You can try audio den also.
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From another thread:
hello guys
im kinda new in HT, all i have now is 29" sony wega/vega
and pioneer dv233 player, like all of you guys i have been bitten by the audio bug.
now my dilemma, im shopping for a receiver/speakers setup, but im short of a thing called budget
im shopping for:
DD5.1 receiver/decoder-(mahal pa kasi ang mga DTS, eh puro naman DD5.1 lang naman ang DVDs ko)
speakers maski di naman malakas kasi small lang sala ko eh mas important sa akin ang decent 5.1 separation
thanks for the suggestionS AV gurus!!!
kung pwede po pinakamura na decent5.1
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From another thread:
A rough budget would really help us recommend a system for you. It would mean the difference between a mini-compo, HTIB, receiver+satellites or full separates.
Also, how do you plan to use your setup?? For movies only or do you plan on listening to CDs on it as well??
thanks for reply sir afterglow :)
well primarily for movies ang target ko.
upon reading some threads here, its best to wait for built the HT one step at a time
so my goal now is to shop for a quality receiver and fronts.
if you have suggestion, please please lang i need them thanks again HT gurus
bro kimpOy
you can choose between denon & yamaha audio video receivers (oks lang yung may dts para di ka na maguupgrade)
try auditioning the b&w dm303 bookshelf speakers which is at 10.3k per pair.
rest of the speakers (center & rears) and the sub will just follow if your budget permits (http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/roflmao.gif)
hope this helps :)
Blade. 8)(http://www.plauder-smilies.de/happy/xyxthumbs.gif)
yo blade, thanks for the reply, yup im eyeing yahama receivers nga eh pero im gonna check out denon din, one thing i've learn thru threads is to audition meticulously and that's what i am doing , let the ear show the way
im gonna check out onkyo also with b&w speakers thanks for the suggestions mga HT guru, please keep it coming pa thanks
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tulong sa pag pili ng reciever fr. the ff. samahan na rin nyo ng match na speakers:
denon 1602
harman/kardon avr 2000
onkyo 494
pang low end lang budget ill use it a mga 35/40 sqm room
salamat....mga bosing
tnx. sa reply di na nag kakalayo ang price ng mga yan (php.18,000/ 22,000) lilito lang ako .Sa speaker na naman
later ko na bibilhin ,receiver muna,cguro hanap na lang ako ng 2nd hand speaker (singit ko lang may for sale nga pala akong bose 901 series 6+ bose reciever na rin php.50,000) sori sa pag singit ng adds
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Reposting for jaygee75,
??? Which receiver is better a Yammy rx 620 110W/chn or an Onkyo txds 494 which has DPL2 100/chn?
And Is wharfdale 8.3 , 8.1 and Center any good?
or JBL LX 2002, 2000c and 2001 better
Should i get d pioneer 533 DVD plyr
I hav limited budget abt 40K max
any shops u can recommend?
I suggest get a Pioneer 233 then get a Yamaha 420 and you still have money left for good speakers. You can get a B&W LCR3 for center and B&W303 for fronts then save for the rear speakers. You can also get yamaha or Wharfedale speakers, if you want to complete everthing. Just my 1 cent
levi
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Which is Better
A Onkyo 494 w/ dpl2 and avrtsd 100w/chn. or a Yamaha 620?
I'm Thinking of Getting the a AVR, DVD player and Fronts speakers 1st. Any Suggestions?
I have a budget of 40k, I need to build a HT slowly so i can have a good HT not half baked ones. ty
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bently
FYI these links dont work.
Recommended Digital Processor/Receiver
Yamaha and Wharfdale Speakers
Sensui Speakers
Home Theater on a Budget
Dolby Prologic Processor
Starting a Budget Home Theater
Need Help
thanks,
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Hi jaygee . . i actually posted the same question about a week ago . .a a now on the set-up help thread.
anyway, halos pareho tayong budget and checking out the same models as you do . .
heard from the gurus to just get
a. pioneer 233 - around 9,800php
b. denon 1602 receiver - they said its below 20k, ut don't know which shop offers best price; ill check electronics depot in a while
kaya lang lalabas daw next week ang new models ng yamaha, so we better wait daw
c. front speakers like B&W (around 10k) - i tried it last night and nagustuhan ko tunog
would just like to know reviews about JBL LX series, dahil its around the same price range as B&W???
sige happy scouting and hope we get the help of the GURUS here . .hwaag daw tayo magmadali . . ithought i can enjoy it this wkend aleady
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b. denon 1602 receiver - they said its below 20k, ut don't know which shop offers best price; ill check electronics depot in a while
saan below 20k? i went to electronics depot and they said 23K. wala pang stock nung nagpunta ako. feb yun.
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:)
dagul, try electronics depot again . .may stock na and try negotiating, i think they can give it at around 20k
levi, you recommended B&W front and center first . . puede ba iyun 3-pc lang? I was told na dapat kasama na ang surround if I use the center?
Ok ba i-match ang B&W with Denon? ???
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mga pre,
you could see and audition denon 1602 & bw 303 at sound & cinema (dian st. and vito cruz makati city - tel. no. 524-8631) look for mr. sonny (stuazon of pinoydvd)
check out blued ht (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1635;start=90) - i think all or some equipments were from sound & cinema. hope you don't mind bro blued! 8)
hope this helps. :)
Blade. 8)
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dagul, try electronics depot again . .may stock na and try negotiating, i think they can give it at around 20k
levi, you recommended B&W front and center first . . puede ba iyun 3-pc lang? I was told na dapat kasama na ang surround if I use the center?
Ok ba i-match ang B&W with Denon? ???
You start with the front then if you still have some budget ,then buy a center, then eventually the surround. I dont mean that you can use 3pc setup but due to budget constraint, you just have to wait till you complete evrything. You can also use old speakers for the surround while waiting. Just my 1 cent
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no problem Blade, my receiver and 5 speakers are all from sound and cinema, parang model na tuloy ni ST yung HT ko. ;D ok doon just call them na lang (Sonny or Edward).
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the links are now updated and should work:
Recommended Digital Processor/Receiver (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1732)
Yamaha and Wharfdale Speakers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1701)
Home Theater on a Budget (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1620)
Dolby Prologic Processor (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1641)
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pardon my ignorance, folks, but what is a receiver for? is it a required component for watching videos using a dvd player? thanks.
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hi onedown,
technically a receiver is not required to watch videos. you can just buy a dvd player and connect it directly to your TV and use the built in speakers of your TV.
yung function ng receiver is to split the audio to the different channels (front, center, surround, sub) para surround yung sounds mo. let us say yung movie merong gunshot from behind, then yung receiver will process the sound so that you can hear the gunshot only sa surround speakers mo. then parang you are part of the movie kasi you'll hear the sound din from the back. parang ikaw yung binanaril.
syempre kung may receiver ka mas enjoy manood ng movies... :D
para sa mga pro sa HT, tama ba explanation ko? ???
dni :)
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try Audio Den along G. Araneta cor Q. Ave. i got my Denon there and they gave me a 10% discount last january. sa Electronic Depot kasi 5% lang.
dni
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hello dni,
thanks for the info. its a relief to know that one can also enjoy watching videos sans a receiver. thanks again.
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hi onedown,
i used to watch din without a receiver. i thought pareho lang naman. walang difference... but when i experienced it sa setup ng friend ko, i realized that i was missing a lot pala... ;D
dni
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dni,
i can imagine what you mean (hehehe). pero, hindi ako discriminating pagdating dyan. as long as the video and audio are clear enough to be understood, ok na sa akin. right now, 'ala pa kasi akong dvd player. nakikinood pa lang ako.
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Would it make sense to have two front speakers and 1 center speaker lang for the moment? Kasi yun mga receivers may virtual or stereo mode eh.. would that mean walang lalabas sa center channel when set to this mode?
or some DVDs support 2-channel output, does this mean that left and right fronts lang lalabas yun sound and wala sa center?
Thanks all!
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Furry,
While you don't have surround speakers, you may want to use virtual mode (...or the avr activates this, by default, depending on the speaker setup configuration on the AVR, and the activated DSP or effect setting). If you are set to DD5.1, DTS or even DPL, merong lalabas na center channel sound. For DD5.1 and DTS, basta me center channel info, lalabas sa center speaker yon dahil discrete digital ang encoding. For DPL, "matrixed" ang center channel ng in-phase signals coming from L+R channels. Nung una, habang walang surround, at di pa gawa kwarto ko, ganito setup ko.
Pag DD 2.0, lalabas pa rin yun sa center pag in phase ang signal ng L+R, as long as enabled ang DPL mo. Pero, the move to a 5.1 speaker setup is a giant leap so don't expect too much from a 3 speaker setup. Dinaya lang sa Virtual DSP para kunwari me depth ang sound kahit walang speaker physically.
Saw in your other posts Yammy 1200 and Dyna floorstanders ang setup mo. Tindi! Kung di ako nagmadali late last year, ganyan sana gusto ko. Enjoy.
Bejiboys
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Thanks bejiboys! Si Meowpao yun Yammy + Dynaudio setup! Ako naman is denon1802+B&W lang! hahahaha :) looking forward to buying that center speakers (LCR3) soon! What's ur setup pala?
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Oops sorry, my mistake. Feline kasi pareho ang dating ng mga pseudonyms nyo kaya nalito ako.
Anyway, YammyRXV800+B&W600's ang setup ko. Wala pa subs, shakers lang. Am seriously considering the MS907 (yun lang pasok sa budget ko eh) pero out of stock lagi.
If you don't have any surrounds yet, you may want to consider the cc6 or the lcr6 so that when you upgrade, you may consider the 602s or 603s and then move your 303s (i hope i assumed correctly) to the back. - my unsolicited advice.
Bejiboys ;)
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hahahah :) no problem. May mga thread kami ni meowpao na sunod-sunod eh.. nakakalito nga! hehehe :) Okay ang setup mo ah.. i almost bought a Yammy too! Na-discover ko lang Denon dito sa pinoydvd eh.
For now, I cannot afford B&W600 series na! hanggang 303 na lang talaga ako and I am really satisfied with its performance for my fronts, and most probably will be buying the same for the surrounds. I can't believe na-addict ako sa home theater! I never would imagine :) Are you using LCR3 din?
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pasingit mga tsong, balak ko ring mag 600 series,
ang question ko,
okay lang ba na 300 series yung surround ko kung naka-600 ang front ko?
o mas maganda kung 600 series all throughout?
ok rin lang ba kung naka-floorstander ako sa harap tapos yung 601 o 303 lang sa likod?
last question:
kung maliit lang yung sala namin, okay lang ba na mag-floorstander?
::)
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Kawboy, may mga nag recommend ng ganyan setup especially if you can afford the 600 series, then yun 303 sa surround na lang :)
Question for everyone, what speaker cables do you usually use for surround? mahal kasi pag mag Kimber or Ixos pa ako eh ang layo ng surround speakers sa receiver! lugi! hahaha :)
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Thanks Furry, :)
inaalala ko lang, baka magka-problema sa timbre matching? :)
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Kawboy, ano yun timbre matching? sa speakers lang ba yun nag-apply or pati sa cables? ano ang mangyayari when that happens?
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Question for everyone, what speaker cables do you usually use for surround? mahal kasi pag mag Kimber or Ixos pa ako eh ang layo ng surround speakers sa receiver! lugi! hahaha :)
Pre, you can always use Pro-Audio speaker cables. They have prices ranging from P30-120.00/meter depending on the gauge of your cables.
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Hi All,
Puwede ba magtanong..magkano ba ang
B&W 303s at 603s?
Nagtingin kasi ako ..ang 303 mga Php15K pero ang 603 mga Php45K..ganun ba talaga kalaki ang difference nila?
Tenks,
Skabyol
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Hi All,
Puwede ba magtanong..magkano ba ang
B&W 303s at 603s?
Nagtingin kasi ako ..ang 303 mga Php15K pero ang 603 mga Php45K..ganun ba talaga kalaki ang difference nila?
Tenks,
Skabyol
skabyol,
malaki talaga ang price difference ng floorstander na 603 sa 303; kahit yung pinaka mura sa 600 series, yung standmount na 601, ay mas mahal sa 303 dahil higher-end ang 600 series.
ganun pa man, medyo mahal ata ang na-quote sa iyo - unless nagtaas na sila ng presyo. Alam ko makukuha mo yung 303 ng mga P10K at yun 603 ng mga P33-P36K.
GAOL
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Thanks nirvblakr! malaki-laki ang difference niyan sa Kimber.. hindi na masusunog bulsa ko.. :)
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Furry, sorry for the late reply,
ang alam ko, pag same series kasi, okay talaga.
dahil pre-set na ata kumbaga yung timbre nila.
parang nabasa ko na rin ata rito yon somewhere, anyway,
for ex. may dumadaan na porsche... pag pare-pareho ang speakers mo, mararamdaman mong dumaan nga yung porsche... pero kung hindi, maaaring porsche na naging tunog jeepney... tapos porsche ulit.... gets?
i mean, as the sound pass from one speaker to the other... yung tipong ganon.
tama ba mga gurus?
pero maaaring konti lang diff. dahil pareho namang B&W, ewan ko lang kung may effect kung diff. series.
Skabyol,
mukhang mahal ang speakers diyan sa H.K.
pero super mura naman ang mga receivers diyan. :)
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Thanks Kawboy :) malamang mag iparehas ko na yun fronts and surrounds ko. Nagsimula na akong gumastos, tapusin ko na rin with good speakers! ;) i can't wait to experience the 5.1!!! ngayon ay 2.0 lang ako.. heheheh..
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skabyol,
malaki talaga ang price difference ng floorstander na 603 sa 303; kahit yung pinaka mura sa 600 series, yung standmount na 601, ay mas mahal sa 303 dahil higher-end ang 600 series.
ganun pa man, medyo mahal ata ang na-quote sa iyo - unless nagtaas na sila ng presyo. Alam ko makukuha mo yung 303 ng mga P10K at yun 603 ng mga P33-P36K.
GAOL
Gaol
Wow mas mura diyan sa atin ang speakers.
Kawboy,
Siguro dito minumurahan ka nila sa receivers sabay tatagain ka naman sa speakers..bawi bawi..hehehehe ;D
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Furry,
:D maganda naman ang speakers mo e.
oks yan. sulit. ;)
Skabyol,
aba, mas malaki nga naman ang kikitain nila, dahil ilang sets of speakers ang bibilhin mo, malamang, prinopromote nila yung 7.1 he he he ;D ;D ;D
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hi guys nde ko na nabasa yung buong thread i have a question and i hope u would be kind enough to help me
i plan to buy a yamaha rxv 430 or a denon avr682.... which do u think is better considering their price is around 12k in php....
and for my speakers.....
im considering this 2 options
is it worth to buy B&w CDM1NT worth around 20K php?
yamaha NS150 for 8K a piece....
tnx in advance
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skabyol: andito ka rin ba sa hk? nakabili ka na ba? gusto mo sabay tayo? dami bang tanong? :)
just moved in to a new flat, and i'm finally getting a setup of my own. naibigay ko na yung yammie VS10 sa aking mahal na papa, ako naman ngayon. gumastos na rin lang sa apartment, sulitin na...
the denon 1602 is <15K pesos here (any other suggestions for an AV?), and i'm pretty much set on that, since it's just right for the budget. sa speakers, mejo clueless pa.
there's a package with a 1602 and celestion speakers (front, center, surrounds) for around 28K pesos, but i haven't heard much about celestion. ok ba to?
and what's a good sub? is it a must to go for a powered one?
sorry if some of the questions are redundant. will rebrowse the threads to get some ideas, but any help will be appreciated.
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ano yung mas OK? Tannoy mercury m2 or B&W 303??? I have auditioned the Tannoy and was very impressed, but not the 303. any comments?
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Hello xmvcx, Welcome to PinoyDVD,
I suggest you make a side by side comparison then you decide.
levi
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bumping for thea...
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damn, gulong gulo na ako sa kaka basa ng mga threads na i2! hehehe...
am looking for a decent sound setup to pair with samsung's 54" tantus rptv and dvd+vhs combo...
budget is around 50 to 60k...
please be specific as am a newbie and i dunno wut the hell you guys are talking about! hehehehe... and pati kung saang shop pwede kumuha ng mga ganun...
just visited electronics depot recently, demo lang sa akin ung ar speakers... decent enough but i think it is a bit overpriced...
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Hi everyone!
since av receiver and speaker ang topics, magpaptulong po ako sa inyong mga bihasa sa receiver and speakers.
im planning to buy kasi yamaha rxv-2200 and mission speakers M5series pero im not quite sure magandang combination ito eh!
M5 series ba malaysia lang gawa?
thanks friends!
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is this system good enough?
acoustic research
status (or stature?) s20
status sc2
status s10
status subz5a
this is gonna be paired with a yamaha rxv-596 (dts, dolby digital)
am concerned if the receiver can process dolby pro logic... i've seen another kenwood receiver that can process pro logic 2... within the same price range...
or should i get b&w speakers? where can see 'em?
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Reposting
Guys, need your help to recommend a good AV Receiver and speakers for me... I'm moving to a new flat sometime within this year and I'm currently shopping for HT stuff for my living room. I already got a JVC S62SL Progressive Scan DVD Player and a Sony Wega KV-XA29N90 TV, so the only stuff I'm missing are an AVR and a nice set of speakers.
My new living room is about 3.5 X 5.5 m (around 20 sqm) only.
I have a measly 50K budget for my audio setup... so any nice recommendation would be greatly appreciated.
Also, to the mods - please feel free to merge this new thread to an existing one if you deem appropriate.
Thanks guys!
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is this system good enough?
acoustic research
status (or stature?) s20
status sc2
status s10
status subz5a
this is gonna be paired with a yamaha rxv-596 (dts, dolby digital)
am concerned if the receiver can process dolby pro logic... i've seen another kenwood receiver that can process pro logic 2... within the same price range...
or should i get b&w speakers? where can see 'em?
The 596 is already an old model. If your planning to get Yamaha now, you can try the 530 model, it has Pro Logic 2. Both receivers has Pro Logic.
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lance_ryan,
You can start with Yamaha, Denon, Harman Kardon, or Onkyo for the AVR. For the speaker you can try B&W, Mission, Mirage, PSB, Paradigm, Energy etc. They have models that will suit your budget. You can check the topic "General" for store listing and request for a demo. Just my 1 cent.
Levi
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The 596 is already an old model. If your planning to get Yamaha now, you can try the 530 model, it has Pro Logic 2. Both receivers has Pro Logic.
it says there that the 530 has phantom power for the center speakers... wut does that mean?
hindi ba parang hindi ma maximize ng mga receivers ang speakers? yung 530, 65w/95w lang... yung ar speakers hanggang 150w ang pwede...
and dapat rin bang may pro logic 2 yung dvd player ko?
hehehe, medyo ngayon ko lang naiintindihan ang mga concepts na i2, hirap talagang mag research about av receiver/speakers when you are a newbie!
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lance_ryan,
You can start with Yamaha, Denon, Harman Kardon, or Onkyo for the AVR. For the speaker you can try B&W, Mission, Mirage, PSB, Paradigm, Energy etc. They have models that will suit your budget. You can check the topic "General" for store listing and request for a demo. Just my 1 cent.
Levi
Thanks Levi... I was scouting for these equipment in Glorietta yesterday coz it's very near the place where I work. I saw the Harman Kardon AVR2000 in Automatic Centre (G4) and some Pioneer AVRs as well. What can you say about them?
What do you think should be the minimum acceptable wattage for each speaker in order to have a great viewing experience?
Will wait for your replies.... thanks!
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lance
nakapag audition ka na din ba ng denon? im using denon 1602( yun yata ang code dyan) and im quite satisfied naman...last time na nabasa ko is around 16K dyan sa pinas eh...ok naman sya i paired it with b&w 303 for may front and surround and a lc6 202(not sure with the code) and a sw320 for my subs...it sounds good naman...but kulang talaga sa bass yung dm303 so kailanang mo talaga ng subs...the prob is ur budget so dahan dahan muna then saka ka na bumili ng iba pag meron na ;D ang mahal din kasi dyan sa atin eh...u can use other type of speakers naman ti match with 1602 that will fit ur budget...konti lang naman yung diff ng room natin so siguro fit din sayo yun ;D
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lance
nakapag audition ka na din ba ng denon? im using denon 1602( yun yata ang code dyan) and im quite satisfied naman...last time na nabasa ko is around 16K dyan sa pinas eh...ok naman sya i paired it with b&w 303 for may front and surround and a lc6 202(not sure with the code) and a sw320 for my subs...it sounds good naman...but kulang talaga sa bass yung dm303 so kailanang mo talaga ng subs...the prob is ur budget so dahan dahan muna then saka ka na bumili ng iba pag meron na ;D ang mahal din kasi dyan sa atin eh...u can use other type of speakers naman ti match with 1602 that will fit ur budget...konti lang naman yung diff ng room natin so siguro fit din sayo yun ;D
yo killer_eyes, thanks dude! suggestions jotted down.. btw, how much did your total current setup cost you all in all? ???
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guys, the onkyo tx-sr500 and tx-sr600 i s now available.
needless to say, the onkyo has a track record as being very good (if not excellent!) for both home theater & music. will have a 600 (6.1 channel) on demo by tomorrow. check it out!
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The 596 is already an old model. If your planning to get Yamaha now, you can try the 530 model, it has Pro Logic 2. Both receivers has Pro Logic.
it says there that the 530 has phantom power for the center speakers... wut does that mean?
hindi ba parang hindi ma maximize ng mga receivers ang speakers? yung 530, 65w/95w lang... yung ar speakers hanggang 150w ang pwede...
and dapat rin bang may pro logic 2 yung dvd player ko?
hehehe, medyo ngayon ko lang naiintindihan ang mga concepts na i2, hirap talagang mag research about av receiver/speakers when you are a newbie!
I think the phantom center is for the rear center and not the front center. Dolby Pro Logic 2 is a processing done in the receiver and not the DVD player. It converts any audio into 5.1 with the rear as full range unlike the Pro Logic. Dont worry about the wattage, I think its enough to drive your speaker. Just my 1 cent.
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just newbie here and its fortunate i also have home theater package of yamaha......i saw some post that pwede i trade yung AV receivers...totoo ba yun?...i got my yamaha package last december 2001 ...rxv 420 and nsp 220 speakers for 25.5K ala pa kasing rxv 430 dati....so far ok naman performance with matching pioneer 533k and 21 inch Flat tv.....pero any suggestions kung pwede kong i trade yung system ko saan ko pwedeng i trade at anong model ang maganda? or pag mag u upgrade ako ng speakers ano ang compatible na speakers at may pakage ba na pang 6.1 ?...thanks
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Any other suggestions for me? ???
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dexterc...
hi! for a newbie, i think your system is quite ok...but since you want something really better for your ears...i suggest the following:
1) get the yamaha rxv-530 av receiver...as far as i know, this one is 6.1 already (correct me guys if i'm wrong!)...great avr for its price
2) for front, rear, center speakers...i'm a wharfedale fan! try to audition the wharfedale diamond 8.3 for your front...either the diamond 8.2 or 8.1 for your surround spekears...and of course, the diamond center...kevlar lahat to...bang for your buck! i've been a wharfedale fan since i started...great speakers! try "sound dimension" at park square or ambassador at shangri-la or glorietta (near park square 2)...they have good price!
3) for the sub, the usaudio 10" sub is ok...try asking mr. sonny tuazon of the home theater in tordessilas st. (in front of my office)...pero if you want something na great quality but very competitive price (plus the fact that you're not conscious about brands)...contact nirvblkr...they make good subs...we auditioned nirvblkr's sub similar to the yamaha yst qd bass series...walang pinagkaiba...galing nila gumawa...pinong-pino...tsaka pinag-aaralan talaga...and they use kevlar also...i just ordered a sub similar to the heybrook sub series...excited na nga ko eh...try consulting them...they give discounts if you get a whole set...grabe, meron ngang na-audition na similar to acoustimas eh mas maganda pa sa acoustimas ang tunog...
4) ok na yang dvd player mo...i also have a pioneer dv-233...
5) for your TV...if you really like flat tv, then stick to the one you have...ako kasi, i'd like bigger TVs...i'm planning to buy either the 29" LG conventional TV (P 19k lang yata!) or the philips 34" TV...pero kung kakasya budget ko, i'd like the 29" flat screen toshiba...i think P 34k sa d-cinema in style (festival mall)
that's about it...happy upgrading!
nga pala, i suggest wag ka muna magpupunta sa mga HT shops, mag-internet, magbasa ng HT magazines, etc...source yan ng "demonic urge" natin...eh magiging economically below the poverty line tayo niyan!!! hehehehe! :) ;) :D ;D :o 8) ::) :-*
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Any other suggestions for me? ???
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you can go for the b&w 300 series speakers or the mission 70 series. if you will pair it with a decent 5.1 receiver i think that you can get it for a little more than 50k. contact hyperaudio for this
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lance_ryan,
You can start with Yamaha, Denon, Harman Kardon, or Onkyo for the AVR. For the speaker you can try B&W, Mission, Mirage, PSB, Paradigm, Energy etc. They have models that will suit your budget. You can check the topic "General" for store listing and request for a demo. Just my 1 cent.
Levi
Thanks Levi... I was scouting for these equipment in Glorietta yesterday coz it's very near the place where I work. I saw the Harman Kardon AVR2000 in Automatic Centre (G4) and some Pioneer AVRs as well. What can you say about them?
What do you think should be the minimum acceptable wattage for each speaker in order to have a great viewing experience?
Will wait for your replies.... thanks!
Hi lance_ryan,
I hope this will help. max & nomimal input power??? (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=3258)
Levi
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hi guys... new hir, nyways wer planning to set up a home theater rm.. any suggestions? we're planning on the getting a toshiba widescreen hdtv, that's the only thing definite... any suggestions? budget would be 150k, thx quality setup, tnx
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Hi Jef616, Welcome to PinoyDVD,
We have several shops under the General Topic. You can ask for a demo and they will be glad to assist you.
Happy Hunting
Levi
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hi guys... new hir, nyways wer planning to set up a home theater rm.. any suggestions? we're planning on the getting a toshiba widescreen hdtv, that's the only thing definite... any suggestions? budget would be 150k, thx quality setup, tnx
150k? kung kasama na sa 150k ang tv, la nang budget for sounds nyan! the progressive scan tv of toshiba costs at around 145k for the 50" and 125k for the 42"... sa listening room (tama ba?) ng megamall ko yan nakuha. not so friendly people but mas mura kaysa sa park square...
hdtv? i don't think that it is that applicable here as i don't see that we will have hd broadcast in the next ten years here in our country.
pero kung 150k for the sounds, hehehe! sarap naman nyan! :)
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@ superman thanks a lot....my only problem if ever i will upgrade my Receiver...dont know if there are buyers out there for my rxv 420....anyway so far so good naman ang performance nya....medyo mahina nga lang ang bass ng nsp 220 kaya interested ako mag upgrade kahit speakers lang muna upgrade ko....
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lance
nandito kasi ako sa japan my set up cost me more or less 60K php...
heres the break down
dm303 ; 4pcs= 24Kphp
lc6 s2 = 8K php
sw320 = 13K php
denon avr = 12K php
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dexterc and lance_ryan- If you are in a budget but would want sound quality speakers for both audio and HT, try to audition our custom made speakers.
http://photos.yahoo.com/nirvblakr
Just contact me at 09175298004 if you are interested. Thanks!
Thanks superman for the endorsement! ;)
nirvblakr
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I'm wondering, between the Yamaha RX 730 and the newly-released Onkyo tx sr 600, which is better?
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Reposting
Hi, I'm new here.
I'm in the market on a Reciever in the P20,000 range or lower.
What can you say about the H/K avr4000? heard it with an Infinity Alpha set with 12" jbl subs at the Podium. It rocks!!!! costs P72,500 complete ser with wires minus the subs.
the HKavr4000 cost P30,950 (out of my budget) I was impressed with it kaya na inspire ako to upgrade my system.
Also, I saw the Yamaha RXv 430 P15,500
and the Yamaha Rxv 620 P18,500 Which is the better Yamaha? is it comparable in detail and clarity as the Harman? What other recievers can you suggest?
Thanks a lot
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I'm wondering, between the Yamaha RX 730 and the newly-released Onkyo tx sr 600, which is better?
If I remember right that you have Mission speakers, I personally would suggest you go for the Onkyo TXSR-600 to match your speakers. I've heard Mission speakers matched with a 494 and it really gives out the lows not sacrificing clarity of the mids and highs. Very good matching if you are a bass person. Just my honest opinion. ;D
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nirvblakr,
i actually have the Onkyo 494, paired with the Mission M73. Kaso, I just heard about this new Onkyo receivers and I think I have the beginnings of the upgrade itch. ;D
I was auditioning the new yamaha receivers for the past 2 months and only listened to the Onkyo once or twice. but i liked it immediately. my only concern is that the 494 is an older model, unlike the yamaha rx *30 series which is really the latest yamaha release. tapos lumabas nga itong Onkyo 500 and 600 series. haay buhay! i'm this close to asking Sonny if i could trade up my receiver for the Onkyo 600! this, after less than a month's use of the 494. hahaha!
what's stopping me, aside from the cost of course, is the slew of not so good reviews on some forums that the new models are receiving (though if you look closely, the same person is posting the same info about the Onkyo's lack of power, e.g. the 600's 65w power is only 30w if all 5 channels are used. I can't pretend to understand what it means, but it has me worried).
buti na lang i'm happy with the 494. so i've been able to control my urge to upgrade.
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tonedeaf- If you ever complete your 5.1 system, I suggest that you start investing on your softwares aka DVDs and maybe go for the upgrade after a couple of years. If you go upgrading everytime a new model of home theater equipment comes up, believe me its going to be endless and you won't get any satisfaction ever.
But looking on the other side of the fence, some people just find their own nirvana seeing a new toy in their room. ;D
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To Levi and other HT gurus
What would you get in the 20t budget to power a bose acoustimass speakers
a 5.1 is OK na for me........
1) yamaha rxv430
2) Harman Kardon AVR 2000
3) Onkyo txsr500
4) Denon 1602
1) may hiss ba talaga ang 430 ymaha?
2) Can a h/k 45watts high current power my bose? or baka bitin?
3) Onkyo?? ok ba to?
4) Denon 1602? what do you think?
Please help
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im using a 1602 on my set up and ok naman sya for me although i dont know how will it match with the acousticmass...pero overall features nya ok na for me with its price
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Hi guys, can you give me a few opinions about my dilemna? Am split as to what am receiver am gonna get. Will it be the 6.1 onkyo or the 5.1 denon? Both are in the same price range and in the spec sheets the onkyo has a clear advantage.
Will the speakers that I am gonna pair with the receiver affect the overall outcome? I am planning on pairing the mission 77 series speakers and a b&w sub with the onkyo and for the denon i might go for the infinity alpha series plus a jbl sub.
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Madrigal,
Im using the yamaha RX V430 and I dont hear any hiss sound that you mentioned. The receiver is great esp for DVD movies. Very clean sound output kahit na Im using only a yamaha NSP320 speakers.
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luther
of course overall ma aapektuhan ng speakers mo yung performance since yun ang maririnig mo eh pero based from ur list mukhang ok naman lahat at puro high ends yata ang plan mo ;D
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To TITANIUM:
Hi, Nice to hear from a 430 owner,
Might get the 430 kasi has the strongest rating (75 watts) as compered to a
1) denon 1602 (70W)
2) h/k avr 2000 (45W)
3) onkyo txsr 500 (65W)
4) h/k avr 4000 (50W)
I think it the yamaha 430 even has better features for the price of P15,500.
Sabi lang ni Carter Sy of Hi End na Sirain daw ang Yamaha Malaysia Made brought by dpsi. Wala daw parts and service center ito. Di to gagawin ng Yupangco if bought by a dpsi dealer.
Also, the hissing sound is a complain by foreign buyers as I read in a stereo review mag. Dito yata sa Phils, wala pang nakakapansin ng Hiss na ito sa surrounds.
Anyway, I really like the Yamaha 430. Owned several Japan made Yamaha amps and Recievers and satisfied with it.
Thanks.
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I had previously owned the Denon 1602 before, and was using my brother's 2802 for a while. When I had to go back to the 1602, there was not much of a difference, so I was thinking of upgrading it to the 3802, which I auditioned at The Home Theater c/o Sonny Tuason. He was kind enough to lend it to me for a home audition, and I was astounded by the difference the 1602 and 2802 had from the 3802.
I returned it to him knowing that this was the amp I was going to get. But while we were talking he suggested that I also check out the AVC10SE (parallel to the 5800 line).
When it did arrive, I was surprised at the size of this thing. Sonny wasn't kidding when he told me it was a mammoth amp :) This thing weighs close to fifty pounds and it wasn't easy transporting this thing.
Nevertheless, as soon as I went through the plethora of menus and hooked it up to my system, I was immediately taken aback by how it performed. While I was waiting for it to arrive, I had read a number of reviews on magazines and the Internet extensively so I had high expectations for this amp. What was so suprising was that it even exceeded my expectations. For the number of movies, CD's and SACD's that I listened to, every aspect was just so much better. The 1602 suddenly sounded underpowered and thin-sounding while the AVC10SE had such a full output, especially with the mids and highs. The details that came out were particularly overwhelming as I could not believe these were the same songs I was listening to numerous times before. A couple of my friends who were strict followers of tube amps particularly liked how well it performed in music modes as it reproduced recordings so meticulously. This amp performs so well in movies even without using its THX EX mode, and is just phenomenal in music. No wonder a number of magazines called it the AV amp of the year and placed it at the top of the heap against all other brands which included Onkyo, Yamaha, Pioneer, Arcam, Nad, etc.
The best part is, it's virtually future proof. It's ready for formats such as 7.1 for DTS, DD, and THX, and there's no shortage of power either.
Thanks to Sonny Tuason of for recommending this amp :)It’s something I’d definitely recommend to anybody also :)
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Hamann, anong brand yung sinasabi mong receiver? sowwy, medyo newbie me.
sa presyo rin cguro nyan pamatay... hehehe... kasing presyo na siguro ng tsikot ko... ::)
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Oops sorry. Denon AVC10SE ;D
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To Hamann,
How much is that Denon avc10se?
Did you buy it?
Can you sell the 1602 to me at a fair price since you upgraded to the new avc10se?
txt at 0919-594-1655
thanks..
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Yup, I bought the AVC10SE. I'm not sure if I can publish the rates here though. Just ask Sonny and I'm sure he'll give you a very good price too :)
As for the 1602, well someone already told me he's getting it, but he hasn't paid yet. If he doesn't then I'll definitely let you know.
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hi, ok ba ang heybrook na hbc1 na center speaker? it's currently on sale at sound dimension eh?
how do you also match your front and center speakers with your a/v receiver?
thanks for any inputs and goodluck for me in this new hobby :) gastos na naman ;-)
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rnold, speaker brands usually have a "set" that are tonally match with each other for HT and multi-channel music use. i cannot comment on heybrooke speakers but it will be better for a center speaker to be the same brand as your mains.
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rnold, speaker brands usually have a "set" that are tonally match with each other for HT and multi-channel music use. i cannot comment on heybrooke speakers but it will be better for a center speaker to be the same brand as your mains.
thanks, ariel for the input!
is there so much difference between the lcr3 and lcr6? what amps usually works best for b&w speakers?
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guys! i have a HT in a box by Kenwood and will be disposing it soon. i bought a b&w lcr60 s3 center speaker first for my HT setup :). i'm confused of what a/v receiver to get ???. i'm thinking between a denon or yamaha and my budget is no more than 25k ::). should i also get the same brands for the front? i think i prefer the bookshelf types. need your inputs and advise :D. thanks!
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since you started with the b&w lcr60s3, you might as well get the 601 or 602s3 for the fronts and the 600s3 for the rear/surround. the onkyo dts-es tx-sr600 is right on your budget. for a very good deal on the speakers and the onkyo receiver contact me at 0917-9761009.
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Hi Guys,
I am scouting for a new av receiver. So far, I've gotten information via internet on the following:
1. Yamaha 430, 530, 630
2. Denon 1602, 1802, 2802
3. Onkyo 500, 600
I haven't seen any of these in action. Can you help me decide which to buy?
Thanks!
Jedi Rey
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Hi Guys,
I am scouting for a new av receiver. So far, I've gotten information via internet on the following:
1. Yamaha 430, 530, 630
2. Denon 1602, 1802, 2802
3. Onkyo 500, 600
I haven't seen any of these in action. Can you help me decide which to buy?
Thanks!
Jedi Rey
The latest issue of WhatHiFi has the Yamaha RX-V430 at 5 stars. I also own an RX-V430.
However, the Asian versions are 10 watts less than the US and European versions - so I am not sure if it would be the same unit actually reviewed.
Whathfi has also remarked that the RX-V430 performs up to par with music, but my experiences differ. I don't like the music performance so much of the RX-V430 but there are many DSP features that are useful, and the remote is programmable with other brands so you can have one remote which I think is quite convenient. Actually, the remote of the Asian version looks much better than the European version in the Whathifi review. Aside from the remote and the black color of the European version, both players look identical in the front. In the back, the inputs are identically positioned, but the binding posts of the European version looks better.
I have no experience with the Denon 1602 but if you can wait, I will be visiting my friend in Cebu with a Denon 1602 this September and I can give you a comparision. But I doubt you can wait. ;)
Hope this helps.
Jovi
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Hello,
Just bought a new reciever.
My choices were exacltly like yours. Budget of 28t below.
Took me 2 months to hear all the units and this is my conclusion
1) denon 1602 ---- ugly gold casing. Mediocre performance. Rated low by hifi magazines.
2) Yam 430 ---- If it gets broken, it will wait in dpsi for 2-3 months since they are incompetent in servicing the unit.
I don't like the sound of a yamaha.
3) Onkyo 500-600 ---- Hate the brand. Feels like a souped up pioneer.
Finally bought a unit. ........Harman Kardon AVR 4000.
Try listening to it. Di ka na maghahanap pa ng iba.
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hi guys :)
need your inputs for the following a/v receivers
1.) Denon AVR-1603 - mayroon na ba available dito
2.) Yamaha RX-V630
3.) Harman Kardon AVR 2550 - mayroon na ba available dito
4.) Onkyo TX-SR600
i'll use it for both music and theater listening
this a/v receivers will be paired with B&W LCR 601 S3 front and LCR 60 S3 center speakers
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Finally bought a unit. ........Harman Kardon AVR 4000.
Try listening to it. Di ka na maghahanap pa ng iba.
I actually tried listening to this receiver but likewise as other enthusiast said, i also found it good with a blockbuster action movies, but not with my favorite solo piano & smooth jazz music CD's. ;)
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Reposting
What kind of front and center speakers would you guys recommend for an Onkyo 696? ;D
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Exactly. Harman Kardon is good, but in terms of musicality and overall features and performance, cannot touch the Denons and Marantz
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Well....I tend to differ because I like the sound of Harman Kardon over Denon but its all in what your ears think ;D
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Differences in our opinions just reiterate the fact that audio is highly subjective. That is why it is never enough to state: "Buy the speakers that you prefer and not what reviewers and others prefer".
Based on my observation, Harman Kardon receivers are more musical than Denons. It has more body, it is more involving and sounds more natural and warm. The Denons are warmer than Yamahas but not as warm as h/ks. Denons sound faster, more detailed and livelier than h/ks.
But these are my opinions.
Buy what tickles your fancy and not someone elses ;)
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confused......
i'm more inclined to get the onkyo tx-sr500, which do you think is better? tx-sr500 or the denon 1602? any suggestions?
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Hi uh.. just wondering.. which store already carries 1803/ 2803s in stock?
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Reposting for Jeremi,
Preliminaries
I know nothing about HT. All the info I have now is from all the browsing I've made in this forum.
Room Size: 16 sq meters
Bed room, bed is flushed against the wall
Already have the video equipment, am in the market for:
1. Receiver
2. 5 speakers
3. Subs
Budget: 80-90k
Principal use of HT: Watching DVD's
Concerns: Have two kids (ages 1 &2) ergo concerns of speakers getting tipped over =)
Preferences
Receiver: Yamaha's particularly because of its price and wide spread popularity in this forum. Am looking at the RXV-630 (lowest price canvassed so far is at P24,600 from Upscale Mega), I might not be able to use the 6.1 function, but am looking at a little head room for any future adjustments.
Speakers: Am considering Missions, B&W, and JBL's. A question that I would like to throw to the forum is whether my room of 16 sq meters can take floor standers or should I definitely go for bookshelves? My preference is floorstanders BECAUSE of concerns of having my kids tip over bookshelves atop a stand. Or should I look at wall mounted bookshelves as alternatives? Any suggestions? Guys, I really need opinions and suggestions, would like to go ahead with my purchase with a week or two.
Subs: Am really not very particular about the brand, all I know is, since there is this thread about subs below 10K, I'm just thinking of the Dynaquest D120, lowest quote so far 7t, Sound Dimension, PS.
Audition Experiences...
Today was officially the first day that I lost the virginity of my ears as I went around to audition some equipment. One fault of mine was I did not heed everybody's suggestion of bringing my own DVD. But here are some of my feedback, more of experiences with the stores, less of my experiences with the equipment. =)
First Shop that I went to: (forgot the name, the person who assisted my also forgot to write down the name of the store, he only had his number and name [Rey de Vera]...)
Mordaunt Short (Fronts, center, sorround and subs), Yamaha 620's. Watched Eagles' Hell Freezes Over and Kiss of the Dragon. Noticed that the right sorround had nothing coming out, mentioned this to the guy and he just said "meron yan..." turns out his connections were wrong. Also turns out that some of the models that he wrote down weren't the ones that were being used...ang labo ng tindahan na toh! Somehow, I felt that the guy was doing me a huge favor for letting me audtion--what gives?
Sound Dimension
This Eugene guy was okay, perfunctorily helpful. But as I noticed that he was consulting someone else whom I was assuming was the owner, I decided to strike up a conversation with the owner. Lo and behold: one of those I'm-opening-my-mouth-and-doing-you-a-huge-favor type of thing. I mean, gosh, here I am walking around literally wanting to park my near 100K hard-earned money and I have these people who are treating me like I'm buying tinapa! What gives?!
Sights & Sounds
Was assisted by this Freddie guy. I mentioned that I was interested in their Yammies and wanted to audition them. He went throught the "heavy" motions of moving my preferred equipment back and forth. You could see that these people AREN'T making enough commissions. In fact, while I was already speaking to him and specifying the equipment that I wanted to audition, one of the sales ladies was still sitting pretty in the couch busy READING a magazine, not even bothering to look up at us! Grabe talaga ang Park Square gang...a little customer empathy naman, a little common courtesy. I mean, I get more polite treatment from the parking attendants for crying out loud!!!!
Upscale Audio
Had a certain Nani to contend with. Service was not any significant improvement from the crappy treatment that I received from the friggin' stores above. Auditioned their Denon 1802 with their PSB's, Velodyne CHT10, his total quote to me was P104k++
Architectural Audio
Buti na lang, I chose to end my day at Nico's New World Nook. It was a delight and a pleasant experience to finally speak with someone who treats customers properly, he was intelligent, helpful, attentive and warm. Auditioned his Denon 1802's with JBL Xti 20, Xti Center ---->pretty good. Also tried his Infinity Alpha 20 ---> not as good as his JBL's. Gosh, I really wished this shop had a wider range of products to offer, I would gladly pay a premium just to get the service and respect that he gives to clients. Iba talaga pag may ari ang kausap mo. Nico also suggested that I NOT get floorstanders, its gonna be "too boomy" daw for my small room. You guys agree or disagree? He also suggested that I get real expensive cables, as in 300++/meter, ganyan ba talaga kamahal ang cable?!
General questions:
1. What is the usual terms of payment for the stores? Kung cash diba may discount? Hindi pa pwedeng COD?
2. When you buy, do the shops "deliver", tapos pag delivery nila kasama na ba sa service nila ang installation, hook up and eveything?
3. What is the usual warranty for HT equipment? May pull out ba or carry in?
4. Please offer speakers suggestions for me, considering my room size and my "security" concerns.
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Reposting for greatbop
well... for 90K.. there's a lot of possible solutions you can get off it..
i'm just speculating that your room's no larger than 4 x 4 meters... (16 m^2)..
Try out umm... satellites. GOOD QUALITY SATELLITES..
Uh.. I recommend Paradigm's Cinema Series..
Energy's Take 5+1 system
and Energy's Encore series.
Or even that funky new Mirage Omnisat speakers...
They're gonna cost you considerable less than what you were willing to paying for...
And just get a good quality a/v receiver. a Yamaha 530/ 430.., Denon 1803/ 2803, or Marantz 4200, 5200...
I think if you spend 25K for the 630 receiver... you're left with 75K for your speakers and subs.. and the only speakers that would give that receiver justice is if you atleast get a good pair of TOWERs AND a SUB.. which will easily eat 60K more out of your pocket.
Keep in mind na in a system, the receiver is the 'disposable' part. Kaya don't go overkill on those.. for that size of a room.. anywhere from 80- 90 watts per channel is way more than good enough! You're gonna be upgrading your receiver once in a while every few years (ie new formats come out, etc.. Ngayon may bagong format nanaman ang DTS for DVD- As.. ).
Anyway... yeah.. Give satellites a try..
www.energy-speakers.com
- encore series
- Take 5 + 1 system
- XL series (hell.. might as well take a look)
www.paradigm.com
- cinema series
- performance series
www.psbspeakers.com
- alpha series
www.miragespeakers.com
- Omnisat series
Almost everyone in here is pimping bw, polk, klipsh, missions.. kaya no need to mention those... So i'm introducing you to canadian speaker brands. They constantly get great reviews off speakers and home theater magazines. And i think you should give these speakers a try as well.
Give the sites a little visit. Then if you think the speakers interest you, bring your cds and start auditioning.. CDs are better for auditioning speakers than DVDs, btw...
Oh, another thing.. Kung itanong nila sayo 'Kailan mo balak bumili ng system?'
always reply, "pag nahanap mo yung right set of speakers" that response right there will automatically get you a free ticket to maximum customer service.
That's my suggetions for you!! Hope i was helpful to you. Atleast always keep in mind yung response to their $tupid little question to you of "when are you planning to buy your system?'.. and always bring your cds with you. That alone tells them that you're serious in buying.
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Reposting for tuff_u_gong
hi,
here's my suggested setup and sources for a more or less complete audio system within your budget
a/v receiver:
yamaha rx-v800
weaknesses: no dts-es, pro-logic 2
strengths:can serve as pre-amp for possible power amp upgrade in the future, affordable for the power rating and features (e.g. centralized component video connections)
speakers:
2 pairs for front & rear: b&w dm303
center: b&w - Lcr-3
weakness: not magnetically shielded, laminated woodframe
strength: compatible with your room size
sub: velodyne-vlf-1012
strength: it has two woofers:a 10'' active front-firing sub, 1 12'' passive,
weakness: slightly bigger than what you need.
or velodyne - cht-12 (not sure about the price)
sources: (prices may have changed, though )
rxv-800 (P23.5 k) and velodyne vlf-1012 (P24.0k): the listening room, 3/f bldg b, mega mall
b&w:
- image video- G/f harrison plaza 4 dm303s (P20k), lcr-3 (P7.9k) or
- b&w store, shangrila edsa
- with this you still have around 4k to spare for stands or mounts
just a general comment: i'm not an expert and have been hit by the ht bug just last May. honestly, though, i think a decent sub does a lot more for your ht setup than a new receiver model or powerful and branded floorstanders. in fact, my suggestion is that if you don't plan to get power amps in the future, that (since you seem to prefer yamaha over onkyo or denon or harman kardon) you get the award-winning yamaha rxv-620 instead (P18.0 k) to free up some cash for really good stands or line conditioners. i think the 630 is fine, but i don't think you can use it as a pre-amp/processor in case you decide to drive your speakers with more decent amps.
you may want to audition wharfedale's diamond series (8.1, 8.2, 8.3, etc. at ambassador appliances - greenhills or shangri-la branch) for your speaker fronts and surrounds. this will easily save you another P10k.
of course, if you're not rushing to complete your system but would want to have a really good one over a year or two, that you start out with a new receiver and pair of really good front speakers (e.g. b&w cdm -series, dynaudio audience, energy, paradigm) as the other greatbop and the other members have suggested earlier in the other threads.
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Reposting for Jermi
And just get a good quality a/v receiver. a Yamaha 530/ 430.., Denon 1803/ 2803, or Marantz 4200, 5200...
I think if you spend 25K for the 630 receiver... you're left with 75K for your speakers and subs.. and the only speakers that would give that receiver justice is if you atleast get a good pair of TOWERs AND a SUB.. which will easily eat 60K more out of your pocket.
Keep in mind na in a system, the receiver is the 'disposable' part. Kaya don't go overkill on those.. for that size of a room.. anywhere from 80- 90 watts per channel is way more than good enough! You're gonna be upgrading your receiver once in a while every few years (ie new formats come out, etc.. Ngayon may bagong format nanaman ang DTS for DVD- As.. ).
I think I will heed your advice, but the quote I got for Denon 1803 was around 23K. Maybe I should look around for Yammie's below 19T.
Do you think my room can take foorstanders or it might be too boomy?
Almost everyone in here is pimping bw, polk, klipsh, missions.. kaya no need to mention those... So i'm introducing you to canadian speaker brands. They constantly get great reviews off speakers and home theater magazines. And i think you should give these speakers a try as well.
I think I'll stick it out with the tried and tested b&w's or Missions. I mean, c'mon all, all of you guys have auditioned endless hours and have endless hours of "research" so, I guess I'll just stick it out with the "popular" brands here in the forum.
That's my suggetions for you!! Hope i was helpful to you. Atleast always keep in mind yung response to their $tupid little question to you of "when are you planning to buy your system?'.. and always bring your cds with you. That alone tells them that you're serious in buying.
Greatbop, many thanks. What can I say, you were...er...great! :)
tuff_u_going:
Thanks for your suggested setup, will try to audition your specs and will give you feedback. The speakers look good though...
http://www.bwspeakers.com/products/gallery/photo_details.cfm?object_id=9B5FBC3D-0C98-11D5-815600D0B74745A0 (http://www.bwspeakers.com/products/gallery/photo_details.cfm?object_id=9B5FBC3D-0C98-11D5-815600D0B74745A0)
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Reposting for Greatbop
Try paradigms and Energy... I acctually prefer Paradigm and Evergy over Mission eh. But that's my preference..
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Reposting for meowpao,
Hi Jeremi,
This has got to be one of the more informative 'HT Buyers' post that I have read! :)
If you want a Yamaha / Mission combination to audition, one of the better places to go is to The Home Theater of Sonny Tuazon. You can check his contact number here in this thread: Directory of Audio-Video Stores (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1784). You can always ask Sonny for a second opinion regarding floorstanders/bookshelves for your room.
IMHO, its better to use good quality cables.
As for the warranties, deliveries, payment options, etc., it varies from store to store. You better ask them yourself. :)
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Reposting for John5479
Canadian brands are more on the neutral side as i noticed in my auditions but due to my current budget when i first started an ht setup i never afforded them, i only audtioned psb and energy but they say paradigm is also good for the price.
If you are more into ht than in music the yammies are a good choice but if you prefer an allrounder you might want to stretch your budget just a bit :) and try onkyo denon harman kardon.
for speakers you can go for the b&w dm series, psb alpha series (alpha B for front and rear and the matching alpha center), you can also they the acoustic energy aegis series as well, though only upscale i think sells these.
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Reposting for notaku
Canadian brands are more on the neutral side as i noticed in my auditions but due to my current budget when i first started an ht setup i never afforded them, i only audtioned psb and energy but they say paradigm is also good for the price.
If you are more into ht than in music the yammies are a good choice but if you prefer an allrounder you might want to stretch your budget just a bit :) and try onkyo denon harman kardon.
for speakers you can go for the b&w dm series, psb alpha series (alpha B for front and rear and the matching alpha center), you can also they the acoustic energy aegis series as well, though only upscale i think sells these.
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Reposting for Greatbop
Yeah... Same company that owns energy and mirage owns Athena Tech.. kaso.. they're manufactured in China lang eh. While engineered in the same roof as enrgy/ mirage.
And i seriously waaay prefer Energy over athena.. Pero... i do think they give serious bang for your buck..
400 usd for their top floorstander!! the one which is
comparable to a connoiseur 7s (approx 800 usd)
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Hi Jeremi,
For your requirement, you can choose between Onkyo, Denon, Yamaha or Harman Kardon, you wont go wrong with any of these brands. It will only depend on your preferences. If the park square shops wont ententain you properly, then we have several member-shop-owners who are more than willing to help you like Hyperaudio, Sonny Tuason of Hometheater, Arch. Audio, Elec Depot etc. I dont want to single out a single brand or shop but these people have all the brands and gears you will need. Just call them and if you can contact them just send me a PM and I will try to call them for you.
Happy Hunting
levi
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Concerns: Have two kids (ages 1 &2) ergo concerns of speakers getting tipped over =)
Bookshelves on solid stands are pretty difficult to tip over. Perform a search in this forum for Jun G. Reyes stands.
Receiver: Yamaha's particularly because of its price and wide spread popularity in this forum. Am looking at the RXV-630 (lowest price canvassed so far is at P24,600 from Upscale Mega), I might not be able to use the 6.1 function, but am looking at a little head room for any future adjustments.
I think 6.1 is necessary only for really wide rooms. Your room is 16sqm so the longest side would probably be 5m+ (then ~3m on one side). I doubt 6.1 would matter in that room.
I auditioned extensively when I bought my receiver (though not the current models). For what it's worth and assuming the brands have retained their characteristic "house" sound, I find Yammies great on HT but rather bright, lean, and flat-imaging on music. Denons and Onkyos are warmer (good for typically bright entry-level speakers) with an expansive soundstage. I bought a NAD T760--warm like the Denon/Onkyo with a smaller yet more accurate soundstage. I'm biased towards receivers with solid solid Hi-Fi roots like NAD, Arcam, Rotel, and Harman Kardon among those available locally.
I agree with your choice though of an entry-level receiver only. I think that speakers contrbute more to the overall sound than do electronics so I'd put more money there.
Speakers: Am considering Missions, B&W, and JBL's. A question that I would like to throw to the forum is whether my room of 16 sq meters can take floor standers or should I definitely go for bookshelves?
While floorstanders tend to be boomier, than bookshelves, it isn't always the case. The svelte Mission m773 comes to mind. Dynaudio bookshelves (I have the Audience 40) on the other hand would put may floorstanders to shame with the quality of their lower frequencies.
The Mission m71/m72 are solid value for money speakers. As for B&W, I much prefer the DM303 over the more expensive DM601 S3! (Maybe cheap tenga ko--he, he). You can audition these side by side at Hyperaudio's place. I see you complained about the service in most of the Upscale stores. I bet Hyperaudio would change your impression on Makati stores. ;-) Also check out Sonny Tuazon's Home Theater behind Makati Sports.
I met Nico once also. Yes, he is very, very nice and knowledgeable. I agree with your hope that he carry a wider range of stuff. I told him this when we met.
Also check out Tannoys, PSBs, and Acoustic Energy.
Subs: Am really not very particular about the brand, all I know is, since there is this thread about subs below 10K, I'm just thinking of the Dynaquest D120, lowest quote so far 7t, Sound Dimension, PS.
I hate to sound like a broken record and at the risk of being labeled as a "bass snob," let me say these:
1--good bass is expensive. good subs need solid cabinets, lots of quality power, a great crossover, and a driver that can take a beating. These cost money.
2--no bass is better than bad bass.
These said, I like subs from PSB (PhP20k range) and REL (PhP30k up). M&K, Velodyne, and Paradigm subs I like tend to be sealed designs.
Let me put it this way, you'll spend several thousand on a sub anyway, might as well spend it right. If you can't afford a good one now, be patient and save up some more. You'd not only enjoy better bass later, you'd also enjoy the addtion of a sub more than if you had one from day 1.
First Shop that I went to: (forgot the name...Mordaunt Short
This should be 5th Avenue/Audio By Design.
Sights & Sounds
Was assisted by this Freddie guy.Grabe talaga ang Park Square gang...a little customer empathy naman, a little common courtesy. I mean, I get more polite treatment from the parking attendants for crying out loud!!!!
Upscale Audio
See a thread I started several months ago on Reviews of Philippine Audio Stores. More at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pinoydiophiles
He also suggested that I get real expensive cables, as in 300++/meter, ganyan ba talaga kamahal ang cable?!
At that price range, you can get the Ixos 6003/6006. I moved from a 16 guage Monster Cable to a bi-wire rin of the Ixos 6003 and boy it was an ear-opener. I've since believed in good cables. I now use Analysis Plus Oval 12. Don't ask how much, OK? :P
1. What is the usual terms of payment for the stores? Kung cash diba may discount? Hindi pa pwedeng COD?
2. When you buy, do the shops "deliver", tapos pag delivery nila kasama na ba sa service nila ang installation, hook up and eveything?
3. What is the usual warranty for HT equipment? May pull out ba or carry in?
Cash is best. They'll deliver after paying. I tend to deposit straight into their accounts so I hold a document from a 3rd party (the deposit slip from the bank proving the transaction) and so I don't bring cash in the malls. I haven't heard of a store running away with your money.
They will install but to make the most of it, tweak the system yourself.
What's pull out/carry in?
Hope this helps!
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Hi uh.. just wondering.. which store already carries 1803/ 2803s in stock?
Bumping q after getting burried...
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Hi uh.. just wondering.. which store already carries 1803/ 2803s in stock?
Bumping q after getting burried...
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Hey Guys....check out the hot, new Denon AVR1803 (A/V receiver)...on display at the Home Theater :)
This new model, part of Denon's '03' AVR line, was just released recently along with the new AVR1603. Was surprised to know that its a 6.1 receiver already ;)
Here's some detailed specs on the new AVR1803:
http://www.customaudioandvideo.com/hmtheater/denon1803.html (http://www.customaudioandvideo.com/hmtheater/denon1803.html)
This might be the answer to your question, greatbop ;) Check it out...I think stocks are just limited ...you may call Mr Sonny Tuazon for other details/pricing ;)
Happy AVR hunting !
Ciao ;)
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hi jeremi,
here's what a killer P100,000 (less than actually) ht & music system will look like!
Receiver:
Onkyo tx-sr600 6.1 – channel digital surround receiver. Dts, dts-es discrete/matrix
6.1, dts neo:6, dolby digital ex, dolby prologic II, dolby digital ac-3. 145wx5 max
at 6 ohms (JEITA). Available in black or gold.
Digital cable: 1 meter ixos 105 75-ohm.
Speakers, stands & cables:
Front: B&W 601s3 2-way speakers. Lovan 2400 24” spiked stands. 2.5 meter pair
Ixos gamma 6003 speaker cables.
Center: B&W LCR60s3. 1.5 meter ixos gamma 6003 speaker cable.
Surround: B&W 600s3 2-way speakers. Lovan imperial 5600 56” surround stands.
? meters Wolf 14-gage speaker cables.
Subwoofer & cable:
Velodyne CHT-10 active subwoofer. 10” woofer, 150w. 2-3 meters ixos 105 75-
Ohm subwoofer cable.
Optional add-ons:
1 pc B&W 600s3 speaker for the 6th channel.
Optical digital cable.
This set-up (or most of it) is on demo at my place. Come and listen anytime. Just
Contact me at 8325710/0917-9761009.
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I acctually am interested with how this setup would sound like..
uh.. what speaker brands do you carry?? you guys got 1803s yet, (if ever you carry denons). ?
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the sound...get ready to be blown away! (yabang no?)
no honestly, marami nang nakarinig and they were all very impressed (o baka binobola lang nila ko he he). ask jong for example. no man really, come and listen.
sorry greatbop, only onkyo at my shop.
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if... you carry bws... it sorta not make sense of carrying onkyos though... i think..
oh wait.. you guys have Integras, then?
(onkyo's high end receivers?)
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Yup, greatbop :)
Have heard the set-up and indeed I'm very much impressed ;)
...was so impressed I took an Onkyo receiver and a set of B&W 600s..... home :)
I suggest you give it an audition and hear for yourself - I must say the Onkyo and the B&W speakers are a very good match ;)
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this is just my opinion. i think.. for 600s to 602s you can get away with an onkyo receiver. pero for the floorstanders... I don't think onkyos are enough to push those na eh..
I've heard stories of power dips ng onkyo eh. like sa sobrang nde na makayanan mag supply ng power.. it'll just shut off yung back to speakers, etc.
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Havent had this concern with the Onkyo receiver I got (TX-DS797). Its even able to drive my 86dB, 4-ohm Dynaudio Audience 60 floorstanders that I temporarily use as front speakers :)
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hmm... only happens to select fews, then. kinda like marantz going in flames... lol.
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yes, some bad apples on a bunch but the bad one shouldn't spoil the whole bunch. there are some cases of onkyo (and any brand for that matter) overheating, shutting down (protect mode) or eventually going kaput (with some smoke to boot). these things can happen to our precious toys (again any brand). that's why we have our warranty cards to protect us. just fill them cards and watch all your favorite movies, listen to your favorite cd's (or lp's) as long as you like and if a misfortune befalls your receiver (or speakers, etc), let the dealer/distributor worry about the repairs (i.e.
within one year; after that you have to foot the bill, but happy to note that the service and parts are always there).
BTW, the B&W floorstanders are more sensitive than the standmounted ones (e.g. 601's 88db, 603's 90 db)
so the onkyo tx-sr600 would drive them more easily.
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Hi uh.. just wondering.. which store already carries 1803/ 2803s in stock?
try architectural audio and the home theater shop of sonny tuazon. i saw an 1803 box at the shop of sonny tuazon when i dropped by yesterday.
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jeremy: sent you an e-mail.
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Warpzone 18,
Try having SHERWOOD AV receivers and KLIPSCH,DEFINITIVE TECHNOLOGY Speakers...The following brands are now available at the 2nd flr. robinsons galleria the shop to look for is the CALL audio video center... they just happens to know what your looking for.!!...look for nilo!!!
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a good pair?...any one knows the items i've mentioned?...im planning to buy these items coz they're on sale...thnx
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Hi guys,
I'm just new here and plan to buy a new DVD player as a gift for my mom. After reading some of the threads, I am convinced to buy a Nextbase DVD player.
Since it has no built in DTS encoder, could you guys suggest a good receiver (iyung mura lang po, around 3 to 5 thou) which I could attach to it?
Also where can I buy it? Thanks. :)
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Hi soultrey,
just a note : if your source has no dts decoding facility, you'll never be able to get dts sound, no matter what receiver you get.
both the source (dvd player) and the receiver should be capable of decoding dts signals.
:)
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hi KINGS, im also new to this board. i was surprised by your statement that both receiver and dvd player must have dts decoder in order to produce dts sound.
diba if the dvd player has dts output, it has the potential to produce sound, which would be realized if it were plugged into a receiver with dts decoding capability? (and of course, connected to 5.1 speakers.)
and diba if the dvd player has a built-in dts decoder, any receiver connected to 5.1 speakers would be just as capable of producing dts sound?
pls clarify. am also confirming if what i learned from this board so far is correct. thanks. :)
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Hi,
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hi,
I have the same predicament like Soultrey. NEXTBASE din ung player ko and i'm looking for a decent AV receiver and speaker system for my setup. Around 16sq meters lang ung area for HT.
Baka meron kayong ma-suggest or even a second hand but well maintained na AV and speakers. Basta can process the DTS ready ng NEXTBASE.
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Hey mga repapips any idea kung magkano yung Bookshelf ng Paradigm Performace Series o kaya yun Energy XL???
Salamat
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jazzyjayt,
I'll try to answer your question. Your DVD player can either:
1. play DTS, without built in decoder
2. play DTS, with built in decoder
3. not play DTS at all
kung number 1, then you need an AV Receiver that can decode DTS, that way, you can listen to DTS mixes in your DVDs.
kung number 2, (I'm not so sure here) but I think you can connect your DVD player to your receiver (kahit wala siyang DTS capability - but has to be through the analog ins I think), then you can listen to DTS mixes in your DVDs.
kung number 3, you can't listen to DTS at all, but in most cases, may Dolby Digital 5.1 ang mga DVD players, so you can still experience 5.1 sound :)
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question lang po.. what would you rather have...
a mid-level speaker set combined to an entry level receiver
or
an entry level speaker set combined to a midlevel receiver?
Concrete examples:
Missioon M70/M73/M7C1 and a 5.1 receiver(Yam 430,onkyo sr500)
or
wharfedale diamond 8.4/8.1/center and a 6.1 receiver(onkyo sr600/denon 1803)
Note that total costs are roughly the same for both setups. And di na pwedeng mag-over sa budget(~40k)! :-\
And di na magkakaroon ng pera for future upgrades.
Any comments on those setups would also be appreciated.
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question lang po.. what would you rather have...
a mid-level speaker set combined to an entry level receiver
or
an entry level speaker set combined to a midlevel receiver?
Concrete examples:
Missioon M70/M73/M7C1 and a 5.1 receiver(Yam 430,onkyo sr500)
or
wharfedale diamond 8.4/8.1/center and a 6.1 receiver(onkyo sr600/denon 1803)
Note that total costs are roughly the same for both setups. And di na pwedeng mag-over sa budget(~40k)! :-\
And di na magkakaroon ng pera for future upgrades.
Any comments on those setups would also be appreciated.
personally, i'll go for the second combo (onkyo/denon and diamond 8s). i find the first (yamaha-mission) setup too sharp for the ears. i guess its also a matter of taste.
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question lang po.. what would you rather have...
a mid-level speaker set combined to an entry level receiver
or
an entry level speaker set combined to a midlevel receiver?
Concrete examples:
Missioon M70/M73/M7C1 and a 5.1 receiver(Yam 430,onkyo sr500)
or
wharfedale diamond 8.4/8.1/center and a 6.1 receiver(onkyo sr600/denon 1803)
Note that total costs are roughly the same for both setups. And di na pwedeng mag-over sa budget(~40k)! :-\
And di na magkakaroon ng pera for future upgrades.
Any comments on those setups would also be appreciated.
Sillyputty,
IMO, since you're not planning to upgrade my advice is to go for the right match kasi may speaker that sounds better if match with the right amp and vice versa. But I will always go for better sounding speakers whether starting or upgrading your system. There is significant improvement when you have a better speaker.
Try auditioning various amplifiers with the same speakers you may or may not notice much change (of course within the same power output and same SPL level) and try changing speakers with different amplifiers naman and you'll hear the difference.
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question lang po.. what would you rather have...
a mid-level speaker set combined to an entry level receiver
or
an entry level speaker set combined to a midlevel receiver?
Concrete examples:
Missioon M70/M73/M7C1 and a 5.1 receiver(Yam 430,onkyo sr500)
or
wharfedale diamond 8.4/8.1/center and a 6.1 receiver(onkyo sr600/denon 1803)
Note that total costs are roughly the same for both setups. And di na pwedeng mag-over sa budget(~40k)! :-\
And di na magkakaroon ng pera for future upgrades.
Any comments on those setups would also be appreciated.
of the two examples - i would go for the first. actually its similar to my set up.
why? sound comes from the speakers - therefore if you have better speakers you get better sound ;D
i used to have 8.1's and i sold them to get a matching pair of missions after receiving m71's as a gift.
the only advantage of a 6.1 is the 6th center channel - but you can read anywhere that there are only a limited number of titles with "discrete" 6.1 recordings
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Thanks for the replies. So the real issue will be speaker matching. What goes well with what and where can I audition them?
Speakers that match onkyo,denon,yam?
Receivers that match mission,wharfs?
???
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also take note of which sound you like better, i mean if you like the sound of wharfedale's over the missions with the receiver that you like then go ahead. But if you plan to get just an entry level receiver, your speakers should not have low sensitivity as the amps for entry level amps are not that powerful.
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Thanks for the replies. So the real issue will be speaker matching. What goes well with what and where can I audition them?
Speakers that match onkyo,denon,yam?
Receivers that match mission,wharfs?
???
yes, matching is critical too but personally, i'll go for the diamond 8s over the m70 series any day.
don't get me wrong, i like the sound of Mission. in fact, i've demoed a pair of mid-level (forgot the model, but they cost about P40K/pair) Mission at Melvyn Chua's place in Cubao (DCM - mission's distributor) and i found them to be at par with more expensive mid-level b&ws (e.g. CDM series).
if you like a bright-sounding HT setup, then go for the m70s. if you like a warmer (but a bit more sluggish) sounding setup and save a bit of cash, go for the Diamond 8s.
of course, this is just my opinion. the best thing to do is still to audition and choose.
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yes, matching is critical too but personally, i'll go for the diamond 8s over the m70 series any day.
don't get me wrong, i like the sound of Mission. in fact, i've demoed a pair of mid-level (forgot the model, but they cost about P40K/pair) Mission at Melvyn Chua's place in Cubao (DCM - mission's distributor) and i found them to be at par with more expensive mid-level b&ws (e.g. CDM series).
if you like a bright-sounding HT setup, then go for the m70s. if you like a warmer (but a bit more sluggish) sounding setup and save a bit of cash, go for the Diamond 8s.
of course, this is just my opinion. the best thing to do is still to audition and choose.
hehehe i think we're giving sillyputty a harder time to decide by presenting different opinions - i guess that just shows that it's really subjective ;D
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exactly, what you need to consider here is matching of equipment and preferred sound, not really on what brand it is, you need to get the best bang for your buck.
For wharfedales: try the marantz sr4200 or Onkyo
Mission: Denon and yammies.
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...i guess that just shows that it's really subjective ;D
i totally agree iceman90a!
sorry sillyputty, i guess all this points to the importance of auditioning. don't worry...auditioning is fun!...though some dealers can make it a challenging task at times.
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hehehehe thanks everyone for the advice.
auditioning talaga problem ko. di ko alam kung saan ko ia-audition yung mga gamit!
Additional questions po.
Wouldn't yammies sound good with the wharfs? bright receiver with a warm speaker(silk tweeter)?
Can onkyo power the wharfs? I've heard reviews that onkyos were underpowered/clips? Is this true?
How about HK? what would go well with it?
Where can I audition the marantz? price range?
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hehehehe thanks everyone for the advice.
auditioning talaga problem ko. di ko alam kung saan ko ia-audition yung mga gamit!
Additional questions po.
Wouldn't yammies sound good with the wharfs? bright receiver with a warm speaker(silk tweeter)?
Can onkyo power the wharfs? I've heard reviews that onkyos were underpowered/clips? Is this true?
How about HK? what would go well with it?
Where can I audition the marantz? price range?
try sights & sounds at edsa shangrila mall. i was able to do a side by side comparison of whrfedales and mission speakers there. they were using a yamaha 630. i think they also have a marantz there or in listening in style - same mall..
onkyo & mission try hyperaudio or mr tuason's place
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Thanks for the replies. So the real issue will be speaker matching. What goes well with what and where can I audition them?
Speakers that match onkyo,denon,yam?
Receivers that match mission,wharfs?
???
yes, matching is critical too but personally, i'll go for the diamond 8s over the m70 series any day.
don't get me wrong, i like the sound of Mission. in fact, i've demoed a pair of mid-level (forgot the model, but they cost about P40K/pair) Mission at Melvyn Chua's place in Cubao (DCM - mission's distributor) and i found them to be at par with more expensive mid-level b&ws (e.g. CDM series).
if you like a bright-sounding HT setup, then go for the m70s. if you like a warmer (but a bit more sluggish) sounding setup and save a bit of cash, go for the Diamond 8s.
of course, this is just my opinion. the best thing to do is still to audition and choose.
this may be a little off-topic but may I ask what receiver you used to test the Missions? I would guess it is a Yamaha? Yamahas usually sound bright and if you pair that with sensitive and bight-sounding speakers (mission m70's) it would certaily not be pleasing to your ears.
Also, I do not know if you have heard all the other Wharfedale 8 series but from my auditions, only 8.1s sound good, 8.3 and 8.4 are not up to par with the missions.. However, this is just my opinion.
If you stick with 8.1, you can' t go wrong. Just pair it with a nice active subwoofer and you should be good to go.. :)
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Also, I do not know if you have heard all the other Wharfedale 8 series but from my auditions, only 8.1s sound good, 8.3 and 8.4 are not up to par with the missions.. However, this is just my opinion.
If you stick with 8.1, you can' t go wrong. Just pair it with a nice active subwoofer and you should be good to go.. :)
How about 8.2? What can you say about 8.2? Thanks.
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How about 8.2? What can you say about 8.2? Thanks.
hi, check out this thread on wharfedale diamonds. it's got mixed reviews - honestly i was only able to compare the 8.1 vs the 8.3 & 8.4
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1662
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this may be a little off-topic but may I ask what receiver you used to test the Missions? I would guess it is a Yamaha? Yamahas usually sound bright and if you pair that with sensitive and bight-sounding speakers (mission m70's) it would certaily not be pleasing to your ears.
Also, I do not know if you have heard all the other Wharfedale 8 series but from my auditions, only 8.1s sound good, 8.3 and 8.4 are not up to par with the missions.. However, this is just my opinion.
If you stick with 8.1, you can' t go wrong. Just pair it with a nice active subwoofer and you should be good to go.. :)
i've auditioned the M70 series at Image, Harrison Plaza using both a musical fidelity integrated amp (forgot the model but its rated 75 wpc) and a denon receiver (2800 series, i think) and i found it too bright for my taste. in fact, i've paired b&ws with Yamaha's before (which is a bright combo) but i never got the type of sharpness from the entry level missions at all.
as for the diamond 8.0s. i never got to try the 8.4s but i've always found the 8.3s better (not necessarily louder) than the m70s. you even spare some more cash from not having to buy stands anymore.
but of course, that's just me and my preferences.
thanks for asking!
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Hey guys,
We have Sherwood receivers which ranges from P14.5K to P45K. Its DTS and Pro-logic II already.
We have also some stock of NAD up for grabs...so call us at 5225698.
Demo units of Definitive and Klipsch "Reference series" will be also sold.
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Sir/Maam,
Any thoughts on what speakers will match my Pioneer VSX D511?
Thanks.
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Mga Tols!
m using the pioneer vsxd 811s-s, 120 w x 6 and with my local 200 w front speakers plus 4 100 w sorround speakers (also locally made), wala ka nang hahanapin pa....
actually correct positioning lang ng speakers at dapat same type, and timbre lahat, you can get the best sound from your receiver.
tol so far,,,the best sa tingin ko ung pioneer vsxd 811s-s. DD-ex and DTS-es; 7.1 sha. if you dont have sorround back speakers, hook a passive subwoofer and you got additional bass. programmable sha.
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jerix: what local speaker did you buy by the way ? the lexus? crown or dai-1chi? (halatang pumupunta rin ng raon hehehe ;D)
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hello mga kuya,
i have an rxv 800 ; dvd 533k pioneer ;lyamaha cdx-620
pioneer ld1080 ; dynaquest 120 ; wharfedale diamond series .
i would like to change my speaker cause i found out na medyo mahina ang highs ng wharfedale nung una gusto ko ito pero sa ibang music cd wala na kong magawang adjustment sa highs , can somebody give his opinion on /about the best speaker match for my rxv 800?
thanks!@
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abj104,
Dont change your speaker yet, why don't you try to tweak the crossover first, you may ask a forumer named nirvblakr for the tweak. A lot of testimonials from the user that after tweaking the crossover, it's sound a lot better.
Just my cent.
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better yet why don't you just contact nirvblakr and let his speaker guy build you a new speaker using velodyne tweeters (for improved clarity,highs) he'll be still using your kevlar drivers if you want.
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Thanks philander and john5479 for the plug! ;)
abj104- Just contact me at 09175298004 regarding your speakers. We can do something about it. 8)
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boss mel,
pde mo ako i-txt sa akin yun estimates mo para dun sa active subwoofer (inc. power amp + power supply)
pls txt me @ 09166458805 (roaming)
pag sagot ko sa txt mo, ito lalabas na #: +96657572795
sa cell mo (ito yun saudi mobile ko naman kase pag globe ginamit kong txt back sa u, 15pesos charge nila/txt).
maraming salamat boss nirv, isa kang anghel..... ;D
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tabs-sent you a pm!
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Pioneer, may tanong ako.. if i only buy the front speakers, then i watch dvd with 5.1/dts, what will be the result? what will the sound be like? kung walang center, eh di walang dialogue? ganun ba yun?
Furry,
If you only have two speakers, tell your receiver to output in stereo.
You'd be amazed what can ba achieved with a good receiver and a decent stereo pair of speakers (say an entry-level Onkyo & PSB/Paradigm/DM 300/Tannoy) vs. a watered-down-by-budget choice of electronics and so-so speakers.
Let's face it, this hobby is not cheap. Be patient and do it right. :)
Good luck.
ano setting naman ilalagay sa audio ng player?
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Hi, I'm new in the world of HT System i'm more on a PC-DVD Setup! no idea on a good HT system but must be affordable to me. I was planning to buy this receiver Pioneer VSX-C300-G for my existing DVD Player don't know if it's worth it! My budget for the receiver is i can go for as 30Tpesos and for the speakers is also 30Tpesos tell me which brand is better and where to buy and why? Below 30Tpesos and performs better is much prefered. I want a receiver and speaker that it will last to 3 to 5yrs and kahit paano hindi parin magiging obsolete if their is a new format comes! kaya nya parin suportahan! and also good for DVD-Audio setup and what cables to do you recommend?
if this question of mine has been already been ask? kindly please re-direct or give me the links of that thread. very much appreciate if u can help me guyz!
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for 60k total...
I'd go get a denon 1803
then 5 pcs of Mission 7 series bookshelves, 1 center channel, and one velodyne subwoofer. should fit inside 60k pag tinotal and after haggle...
That's for 6.1, if you think you're gonna be happy with 5.1, then just get a denon 1603 a/v receiver. and 4pcs of mission 7 series speakers. and 1 center channe; + subwoofer. I highly recommend that you go get Mission or B&W speakers pag sa Manila ka. Because those two brands are 'kalat', kaya mas mura ang retail prices for those..
www.mission.com
forget about the Pioneer a/v receiver.. get a denon or arantz instead.
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I agree with greatbop.
To be more precise, get the Mission m7 series speakers, the older 7 series is actually more expensive. Their website is actually www.mission.co.uk.
GAOL
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Check this out (Home Theater Speaker Set) (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=7;action=display;threadid=8729)
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I have access to Community/JBL subs and I was wondering if I can use them for HT. These subs are for sound reinforcements in musical concerts appropriate in basketball courts and I believe they rate at around 1500watts and come with their own amp. Next question is would the preamp of an AVR be compatible with the sub's amp.
Trying to figure out how to get those mystical subs that sound big and are consistent sounding. :)
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i bought denon avr1403 and jbl scs178 package at the soundroom at the podium. it costs me only PHP37,400.00 which i think falls under your budget. the combination is good. you can go to the soundroom (5th level besides globe hub) and look for grace for a free demo. i asked for demo for two straight days before finally bought them. worth it naman... so far so good... now, am enjoying staying at home with my very first denon and jbl. happy buying! :):)
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Hey guys,
Been reading this thread for sometime na din since im planning to set-up my own HT but with a tight budget lang. Im using a Pioneer DV233 DVD player, DTS out lang siya so i really need a good AV receiver & of course nice speakers. I was able to get in touch with this guy last weekend, according to him he's gettin these stuff directly from the authorized supplier of wharfedale here in manila & he offered me the following items:
(FRONT)Wharfedale Diamond 8.1 Bookshelf Home Theater Stereo Speaker (PAIR) Diamond 8.1
Specifications: Power handling: 100 w Nominal impedance: 6 ohm Sensitivity
(for 2.83v at 1m): 86 dB Frequency response: 55 Hz -20kHz
Dimensions: 11.6" high, 7.8" wide, 7.12" deep Shipping weight: 19.9 lbs.
(CENTER)BRAND NEW WHARFEDALE Diamond 8 Center Speaker. Diamond Center
Specifications: Power handling: 100 w Nominal impedance: 6 ohm Sensitivity
(for 2.83v at 1m): 88 dB Frequency response: 60 Hz - 20 kHz Dimensions: 7.0" high,
17.75" wide, 7.1" deep Shipping weight: 17.25 lbs.
(SURROUND)Wharfedale Diamond DFS Bi-polar Surround Speakers
These bi-polar speakers produces an ideal rear sound field, with both direct stereo imaging and
the ambience required - all with the same detail and resolution you have come to expect from
the rest of the Diamond series range. Bi-polar rear speakers offer the best of both worlds.
They produce an excellent sense of scale with great ambience, but also allow for precision stereo
imaging. The Wharfedale Diamond DFS Surrounds are designed to perfectly match any Diamond
series loudspeaker.
(SUBS)Wharfedale Diamond PC-10A Active Subwoofer.
Specifications:
10" Subwoofer
100W Built-in Amp
Sensitivity:250mV for 75W
Freq. Range: 32 to 170Hz
Downfiring
TOTAL PACKAGE PRICE - 20,200
I need your opinion on these speakers since newbie lang ako & im not so familiar with tech stuff of speakers. I've read a lot of good reviews from the net about wharfedale but i also need opinions coming from owners here at Pinoydvd.
This guy is also offering me a brand new satellite set-up with Subs for only 9k. I'll be placing the set-up in my 20sqm room lang so is it advisable to get satellite lang or the bookshelf speakers? Im planning to buy a different sub na lang din para mas malaki budget for the receiver. Any suggestions for a good sub that can complement 8.1 speakers but price should be below 5k lang. I might disregard din the center speaker from his offer, tsaka na lang..ipon muna ako! ;D
And lastly, what brand/model of AV receivers that you can suggest for the above speakers? Kahit siguro 2nd hand lang pwede na as long as may DTS decoder, my budget is 8-12k lang so i presumed pang-2nd hand lang budget ko.
I would appreciate any help or suggestions from you guys...thanks in advance!!
;D
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Maganda at mura wharfedale kaya lang mababa ang sensitivity nya..nasa 86 lang yata..so u really need a very good amp para mapalakas ang tunog..i was also planning on buying those babies kaya lang..sabi nila u really need to crank up the volume nung receiver para lumakas yung tunog..and also base sa review at least a mid price amp is needed para lumabas talaga ang ganda nang wharfedale
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Thanks courage for your opinion, appreciate it a lot!
Iceman90a...replied to your PM & thanks again!
;D
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yo guys!
i need your help, my bro is planning to convert their AVR into a home theater. me nagpadala na sa kanya na company ng quotations to set-up the place and when i saw it medyo hindi ako bilib and medyo taga ang price(Pioneer CD Player for example is priced around 17K. whoa!)
yun AVR is measuring 21 X 10 meters and siguro ang height mga 10feet(rough estimate) then 120 seats. it has good acoustics daw. i've seen it pro dont have pic eh sorry.
ang binigay sa kanyang list eh yung YAMAHA S60 na package priced at 30K+. which i saw here na ang price lang pala nun eh 18-19K so hell0! sobrang taga nun ah and so i immediately told my bro na get more options(quotations) sa iba.
he has already bought a Canon LCD projector. meron na din lumang tape deck, vhs and mixer i think. need nya is a good screen, set of good speakers, receiver, amplifier siguro and other things im really not an expert that's why im asking you guys for your ideas.
sarap nga sanang gawin project to eh kaso dont have luxury of time coz of work. konting research lang to and help from pinoydvd members :)
do you think a 35W/channel and 40W na sub eh kakayanin tong AVR na to?(yun kasi yung spec ng S60) me?! i dont think so...kung mga living rooms now ang labanan 100w na eh yun pa kaya.
so guys you have ideas to share kahit mga companies that can do this job post naman here and important dapat me number so i can give it to my bro and he'll call.
naalala ko nga yung napost dun sa pic of your HT na thread yun bang from scratch dinocument...sarap gawin nun dito. as in.
told my bro that i'll try to get him some contact numbers who could do the work.
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kung 30W nga eh ang hina nun tapos 40W lang ang sub?
punta ka sa general forum
madami dung mga shop na recommended ng pinoydvd sa tingin ko mas ok yun kesa dun sa sinasabi mo na nag bigay ng quotation sa bro mo
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Your brother will need large speakers and powerful equipment for the area. It would better if he would consult professional installer for this. He can also check out the shop owners under the General topic, they have equipments and advises for this kind of setup.
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http://www.yamaha-audio.co.uk/dvd/dvdsystem/dvx-s60/
Is this the one that will power that large room?
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courage,
yup that's the one.
levi,
have seen the directory ng mga shops sa GENERAL topic kaso i dont know which specifics shops ang gumagawa ng ganung trabaho dun. there are some listed na i think hindi talaga gumagawa and some pang-videos lang. im not familiar with the shops kasi eh. do you have any specific recommendations?
actually hindi nyo naitatanong this AVR(Audio Video Room) eh located sa loob ng seminary here in Metro Manila :) my bro is administrator kasi nung seminary and yun mga Priest, co-brothers and seminarians nya ang request sa kanya kung pwede daw i-convert na lang yung luma nilang AVR into a Home Theater because their fond of watching movies.
(kaya if u see a large group of males na watching movies sa glorietta or mega at mukhang mga seminarista malamang sila yun hehe ;D)
wag kayo yun gagastusin nila here came from ipon nila sa mga mass nila ;D ;D ;D well wala naman kasi silang ibang pagkukunan ng funds ;)
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kung tama yung nilagay na link ni courage eh sobrang hina naman ata nun for that room...
i guess try mo na lang kumontak dun sa mga shop sa general forum to ask for the best deal
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Push,
hindi kakayanin nyang AVR na yan yung room na sinasabi mo..masyadong mahina. i think for small rooms lang yung setup na yan
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Has anybody tried mordaunt-short speakers auditioned there 902 & 912 bookshelfs anybody auditioned this brand need a second opinion. The bookshelfs I auditioned sounded real great amazing base reproduction for there size not to bright. The 912 is price liked the B&W 303's but with a lot more bass.
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Has anybody tried mordaunt-short speakers auditioned there 902 & 912 bookshelfs anybody auditioned this brand need a second opinion. The bookshelfs I auditioned sounded real great amazing base reproduction for there size not to bright. The 912 is price liked the B&W 303's but with a lot more bass.
if those MS are the one's with the white domes i read they are supposed to be highly rated. but if they are the narrow boxes, i've heard them in the malls....you can get something better than them
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Has anybody tried mordaunt-short speakers auditioned there 902 & 912 bookshelfs anybody auditioned this brand need a second opinion. The bookshelfs I auditioned sounded real great amazing base reproduction for there size not to bright. The 912 is price liked the B&W 303's but with a lot more bass.
if those MS are the one's with the white domes i read they are supposed to be highly rated. but if they are the narrow boxes, i've heard them in the malls....you can get something better than them
Thinking of going B&W real clean sound although a little bright pero kung may partner na sub siguro ok na rin.
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if you ain't getting a 603 or a 604, i think you will definitely need a sub. i used my 602s without a sub for a month in vain
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if you ain't getting a 603 or a 604, i think you will definitely need a sub. i used my 602s without a sub for a month in vain
If your going to go slow on the upgrade as in fronts muna and the receiver tapos later na lang yung others pag nabili mo na yung fronts and receiver what comes next do you go for the sub or the center assuming i'll be using a mission m71 for my fronts.
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ano bagay na receiver para sa fronts na B&W 602 tapos center B&WLcr6 rear B&W302
i was thinking of Denon 1803 ok kaya ?
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denon 1803 should be okay. pero.. if you can get 3803. You're gonna get more out of your speakers that way.
tsaka i'd save up to 602s sa likod. reason is... mas sonically matched sila sa harap. i know it might be more expensive... pero you want that panning sound to be believable diba?
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meron na kasi ako existing speakers gusto ko lang palit receiver gamit ko before yamaha
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Macks,
Try mo din yung mga receiver ng Marantz (5300,7300)...i think they go well with 600 series.
I have a Marantz SR5200 connected to a 601 S3.
Sorry nde ko lang kung nasa parehong price range yung marantz at denon.
Hope this helps,
Skabyol
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im using denon 1602 with my set up
fronts 603 s3 and fronts cc6 s2 its quite fine although i know mahina lang yung 1602 for 600 series but for me ok yung match nya....
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ano bagay na receiver para sa fronts na B&W 602 tapos center B&WLcr6 rear B&W302
i was thinking of Denon 1803 ok kaya ?
Im using 602 and LCR60 for my 1803 reciever. I could say its a good match. It has more than enough power to drive the B&W's.
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I have a Marantz SR5200 connected to a 601 S3.
Sorry nde ko lang kung nasa parehong price range yung marantz at denon.
Acctually.. mas mura ang Marantz ng konti (comparable model) compared sa Denon. atleast dito sa Canada.. dunno there..
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Guys ;D
Would it be better to use dedicated bi-polar speakers for surrounds than just using a speaker that is smaller in size than your fronts? ??? Thinking of using a bi-polar speaker for the surrounds kasi ;)
Thanks ;D
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Sir,
Just I want to know kung alin mas ok Denon 1803 or Marantz 4300??? in terms of audio and movie??
Thanks in advance
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^ I don't swear by this. But a tech support guy I emailed told me na denon can give your speakers SLIGHTLY better bass.. i personally think they're too similar..
next dipoles for surrounds... advantage is that the sound is diffused creating a better enveloping ambiance. DOWNSIDE... is that there's that panning sound in some movies na you want to pinpoint kung nassan nanggagaling yung sound..
best setup though.. is dipoles for sides. and direct radiating for rears. but that can be expensive for some. kaya reccomendation/ preference ko is direct firings for surrounds. Dahil i give the 'panning object sound' more importance. and when correctly positioned naman, direct firings can do believable ambiance sounds
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Guys ;D
Would it be better to use dedicated bi-polar speakers for surrounds than just using a speaker that is smaller in size than your fronts? ??? Thinking of using a bi-polar speaker for the surrounds kasi ;)
Thanks ;D
Dracula
Its all about personal preference. If you like the dark, diffused cinema style than by all means go for the Dipolar/Bipolar rear set up or if you prefer the more discrete localization of the direct radiating rear speaker set up then use it. There are no hard rules when it comes to the set up of the rears.
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levi : magkano kuha mo sa denon mo (1803) and saan mo nabili ?
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levi : magkano kuha mo sa denon mo (1803) and saan mo nabili ?
Almost the same as the posted price here. You can ask Hyperaudio for exact price.
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ok po ba yung harman/kardon 3550, paired with a jbl scs 178 series???
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Try Infinity speakers. Same dealer of HK
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question, are the fm antennas of these receivers all compatible with each other? I kinda lost my yamaha antenna since i couldn't figure out how to put them on anyway. If they are, can I buy them anywhere? thanks!
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Guys ;D
Can you mix different speaker brands for your ht set-up?
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dracula
you can, but may not sound as nice as matched speakers. Mas mahirap i-match, since yung sensitivity issues, range of frequency, and other things you have to make sure of are ok.
sino may antenna? ;D
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dracula
you can, but may not sound as nice as matched speakers. Mas mahirap i-match, since yung sensitivity issues, range of frequency, and other things you have to make sure of are ok.
sino may antenna? ;D
I remember using a speaker wire for the antenna of my old component at home worked pretty well use that na lang or you can ask listening room if the sell the antenna separately (632-95-77)
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CHECK THIS OUT!
marantz sr-4300
dolby digital/ex discrete 6.1
dts/es discrete 6.1/neo6
prologic II
circle surround II
6.1 channel pre outs
6 x 80 watts
P21,500 only!
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hyperaudio,
how about the Marantz SR-5300?
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Is DTS-ES matrix exclusive to yamaha receivers? Does it give the yamaha an edge over the other brands? Comparing say the Denon 1603 against the yamaha rxv430. I want to maximize the 6.1 tracks of Lord of the rings is the DTS-ES matrix feature of the yamaha sufficient? (aside from the fact that i can't afford to go 6.1 my room just won't accomodate six speakers) ;D
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Im still planning to set up my HT this march... ;)
can anyone advise if this is a good combi... :-\
Denon 1803 (nawa pagdating ko ng March less than 20K na ito ;D ;D ;D... hoping ;)
Next base super slim DVD
set of speakers w' act sub courtesy of Nirvblkr.
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bro qatarman,
for a starter set-up...YES, that's a good choice...kung medyo nagtitipid ka, try the denon 1603 at spectra park square...i think it's only P 16,500...get the nextbase DVD player at sights and sounds (park square) at P 3,995...then get a set of (superb) speakers (including the sub i'm letting go ;D) from nirvblakr...i'm sure you'll have a great start-up system...si nirv pa!! highly recommended ko yan...ask him kung anu-ano na ang mga napagawa ko sa kanila...and i am very impressed!!!! :o
mag-alot ka pa mga 2-thou budget for cables, interconnects, etc...and you're now in home theater heaven!!!
good luck, bro!!!
just tell me if you're going to audition the sub para madala ko...thanks!!! 8)
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Im still planning to set up my HT this march... ;)
can anyone advise if this is a good combi... :-\
Denon 1803 (nawa pagdating ko ng March less than 20K na ito ;D ;D ;D... hoping ;)
Next base super slim DVD
set of speakers w' act sub courtesy of Nirvblkr.
Do you want to try Sherwood RD6106 which sells at Php14,500 or the RD6108 Php18,000 all are PL2 ready
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Mr. Redkoji,
whats the specs of Sherwood you offer? I have not seen the reviews of PDVD members on this. How is it?
as of now because of the thread Im looking at Im really decided on Denon1803... Maybe your offer is better. ;D
Mr. Superman,
Whats the specs of your sub and the size. Because the size is very important to me I dont have a big space on my living room ;D
tenx
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Mr. Redkoji,
whats the specs of Sherwood you offer? I have not seen the reviews of PDVD members on this. How is it?
as of now because of the thread Im looking at Im really decided on Denon1803... Maybe your offer is better. ;D
tenx
Mr. Redkoji
Sent you pm
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bro, the driver is a 10-inch kevlar front-firing driver...220watts up to 350watts peak...it's around 15" by 15"...height is 18"...thanks! 8)
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bro, the driver is a 10-inch kevlar front-firing driver...220watts up to 350watts peak...it's around 15" by 15"...height is 18"...thanks! 8)
Bro,
Ill check when I get back home and Ill let you know kung okey.
tenx pare
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help. a relative is making the big leap and building a 50 sq m dedicated ht room in alabang. would appreciate suggestions on quality a/v receivers and speakers.
at first blush, i suggested the following:-
A/V Receiver: Yamaha RX-Z1 or RX-V3200; Denon AVR - 4802 (meron ba sa Phils?) or 3803
Speakers: floorstanders sonus faber (although pricey); B&W DM 603 S3
Subwoofer: B&W; Velodyne; M&K (would you recommend 2?)
price range:
av receivers: Ps50k - Ps100k
Speakers: Ps50k - Ps150k (including surrounds and maybe back surround)
subwoofers: Ps50k - Ps75k
we would appreciate contact details and discount offers from dealers.
salamat! :)
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When selecting equipment from scratch, you really should pick the speakers first as this is the biggest determinant of the "type" of sound your system will have. It's easy to choose electronics after you've selected your speakers.
The best thing to do is to visit the various HT stores and audition various speakers. If we knew what sort of sound your relative is looking for then we can put together a list of speakers to recommend.
With regards to the electronics... your budget can get you into separates and that's the way I would go. While a dedicated pre/pro is probably out of reach, I think you can go with a receiver as a pre/pro and outboard amplification.
Since your room is pretty large, you'll need a good subwoofer to fill the room with bass... The current offerings in the Philippines right now just won't cut it for such a big room and I'd be hesitant to recommend using two because of cancellation issues. I too have a big room (small area but high ceilings) and I built my own sub using the Tempest 15" driver in an Adire Alignment design. It's a huge box (3ft high; 2ft across) but it can hit 18hz (-3db). The other subs sold here are, at best, ~23hz.
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For the speakers I'd really recommend that he would listen to them first. Personally I love the sweet, although slightly colored sound of the Sonus Fabers but a little dark for movies.
For subwoofers, I can only recommend SVS. I've had two Velos and the REL Q150 and although the REL is very very slightly faster in music, it doesn't even compare in power to an SVS. One of these babies are equal to around three Velos. Problem is you would have to import them yourself, but it's not so bad because you buy direct from them, there is no middleman fee. You would actually feel as if your whole room has bass shakers planted all around it. :)
The Yamaha Z1 is a great amp but for both musicality and movies definitely get the Denon.
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WE CANNOT TELL YOU WHAT YOU NEED.
We can only tell you what to consider. Best thing to do is AUDITION AUDITION AUDITION!!!
are you have said, this is a major investment. hence you do not want to plop down 300k and end up remorsing after.
Having said that... B&W and Missions are fairly cheap in the philippines because there are so much dealers carrying the brand. So value wise, that right there can't go wrong..
However, you need other brands to compare the quality with diba? So go check out my brands as well: Energy, Mirage, and Paradigm.
The Energy Connoiseur Series is comparable- both price and sound quality to the BW 600 series..
The Mirage OMNIs- they just came out very recently.. they look absolutely freaking cool. Using OMNIpolar technology. (note: different from OMNisats). And they also sound great. LARGEST floorstander tops up at 1000usd for the pair. bigger bookshelf at about 500usd for pair. Comparable to the BW 600 series
Paradigm Reference Studio Series.. One of the more popular line of speakers. A new updated version is expected within 6 months. Truly are bang for the buck high end speakers. studio 100. for 1500 usd, you can get a pair of full range floorstanders that's got an INSANELY deep and wide soundstage... and thats got great imaging as well. It can go very low.. nice mids and highs.. for the price,, simply can't be beat. Was listed as a recommended component in Stereophile's list.
For subwoofer that's for HT use.. I HIGHLY HIGHLY reccomend one thing: Paradigm Servo 15. You get the room shaking low, loud, nd clean bass (15hz) you crave for in HT for just 1500 usd. (less thab 1000 usd if bought from canada). Not for music though.. not tight enough. Listed in Stereophile's recommended list as well.
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help. a relative is making the big leap and building a 50 sq m dedicated ht room
That is a large room. I think all your planning starts from that fact. Some speakers that rate high may not necessarily work in that big room. Your power requirements will also be higher than normal. The TV will also be bigger than average, I'd say starting at 50 inches and going upwards. Good luck!
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Mr. Redkoji,
whats the specs of Sherwood you offer? I have not seen the reviews of PDVD members on this. How is it?
as of now because of the thread Im looking at Im really decided on Denon1803... Maybe your offer is better. ;D
Mr. Superman,
Whats the specs of your sub and the size. Because the size is very important to me I dont have a big space on my living room ;D
tenx
Hey Bro,
Let me know the room size you want to place your H.T. since thats where your receiver will depend and that would satisfy your taste.
Meanwhile try to audition those items at our dealer network such as AVSurfer and Spectra. It my be the only thing you need is a Quintet which is at par with JBL Northdrige or Studio in terms of performance with little space to consume. Specs shall also be given by this salesman.
If in case they have not, please let me know and I'll personnally take care of it.
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50 sqm means squat to me... it could be 10 x 5 m or 8x 6.5m
cause.. if a room is 10x5m... you can always just ignore 2- 3m of room's lenght, diba?
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Salamat, afterglow hamann, greatbop and slowhand for the suggestions. It's less than 50 sqm pala. room is 8x5x3 m.
relative's taste is more into movies than music.
are there dealers of Mirage and Paradigm in Phils?
salamay ulit. :)
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Salamat, afterglow hamann, greatbop and slowhand for the suggestions. It's less than 50 sqm pala. room is 8x5x3 m.
relative's taste is more into movies than music.
are there dealers of Mirage and Paradigm in Phils?
salamay ulit. :)
Try to audition Definitive ProCinema80, comparable with the two brands you mentioned and its subs gives a punch that preffered by pinoys. Main competitor nito ay yun Energy Take 5 which is more expensive.
But if your inclined to music try mo yun, Klipsch Quintet and match with ProSub100TL.
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Salamat, afterglow hamann, greatbop and slowhand for the suggestions. It's less than 50 sqm pala. room is 8x5x3 m.
relative's taste is more into movies than music.
are there dealers of Mirage and Paradigm in Phils?
salamay ulit. :)
Electronics depot sells Mirage while Paradigm is distributed by Audio Den
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Mr. Redkoji,
whats the specs of Sherwood you offer? I have not seen the reviews of PDVD members on this. How is it?
as of now because of the thread Im looking at Im really decided on Denon1803... Maybe your offer is better. ;D
Mr. Superman,
Whats the specs of your sub and the size. Because the size is very important to me I dont have a big space on my living room ;D
tenx
Hey Bro,
Let me know the room size you want to place your H.T. since thats where your receiver will depend and that would satisfy your taste.
Meanwhile try to audition those items at our dealer network such as AVSurfer and Spectra. It my be the only thing you need is a Quintet which is at par with JBL Northdrige or Studio in terms of performance with little space to consume. Specs shall also be given by this salesman.
If in case they have not, please let me know and I'll personnally take care of it.
Okey that's it audition ko na lang lahat ng receiver na makikita then after that Ill decide ;D ;D ;D
Kahapon decided nako sa denon 1803 eh ngayon may sherwood naman tsk tsk tsk... ??? ???
Im planning to set up my ht sa living room ko na 4x3 m lang so I guess I just have to talk to your salesman and see what he would recommend ;D ;D ;D pero medyo bias pa rin ako sa denon1803 kasi iyong ang mabenta sa thread sa kabila eh ;D ;D ;D
any advise from my fellow pdvd'ers
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Try to audition Definitive ProCinema80, comparable with the two brands you mentioned and its subs gives a punch that preffered by pinoys. Main competitor nito ay yun Energy Take 5 which is more expensive.
Err.. i was referring to Mirage and Paradigm's main speakers and not satellites..
The highly acclaimed Paradigm Reference Studio series and yung freakingly cool Mirage OMNIs (not OMNIsats).
ps. Paradigm Signature series is also set to launch within the year.
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Salamat, afterglow hamann, greatbop and slowhand for the suggestions. It's less than 50 sqm pala. room is 8x5x3 m.
relative's taste is more into movies than music.
are there dealers of Mirage and Paradigm in Phils?
salamay ulit. :)
8x 5 is just a perfect size for ht, i think
5 is approx 15 ft.
6 feet for the TV.. then the front speakers are 2 feet apart from the wall and from the TV's edge... making them 10 feet apart of each other... just perfect distance!!
you can sit 10 feet away from the tv. side surrounds 8 feet high
tapos rear surrounds 2 feet from the sofa..
and a denon 3803 should easily power the speakers for it.
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anyone tried or had a B&W DM6? saw it in buyandsell selling at P7K(neg). searched it in the internet and found out na old model pala to 1979 pa. OK kaya to?
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hi everyone!
just registered kangina. am currently looking for a descent receiver and speaker system for my ht to be. may mga suggestion ba kayo. am looking at 30K to 35K budget for both.
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:D ;D ;D
Welcome to the community kimpao!
You can learn more about HTs by just browsing thru the threads!
Good luck sa future HT mo! ;)
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hi everyone!
just registered kangina. am currently looking for a descent receiver and speaker system for my ht to be. may mga suggestion ba kayo. am looking at 30K to 35K budget for both.
Try auditioning a Marantz and Wharfedale Setup..kayang kaya nang budget mo yan, that is kung kumpletong setup na agad ang gusto mo.
I heard na compatible naman daw yung Marantz at Wharfs eh.
Hope dis helps.
Welkam sa pinoydvd :) :) :) :)
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You can get an entry level receiver ( example Denon 1403/1603, Marantz 4300, Onkyo SR500, Yamaha 430, HK 2500, Sherwood, Kenwood ) and Wharfedale speakers. You can also get Mission speakers but you wont be able to complete the whole system. You can save up and buy it next time, at least you got upgraded. Just my 1 cent advise.
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just bought a pioneer dvd555k...thought i might buy a speaker system to go with it. :)
any suggestions on what to buy?
(by the way i'm on a tight budget...hehehe) ;D
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kimpao and pasoot
may mga package deals sa ambassador shangrila
29-30k, a receiver plus a wharfedale diamond center, diamond 8.3 fronts, 8.1 rears, and a dynaquest sub
15k kung diamonds lang.
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Hi kimpao and pasoot,
May package offer yun AVSurfer, na for starters...try mo. Its Klipsch/Nad and Definitive/Sherwood Package at 0% interest...kaya di mabigat sa bulsa.
If your looking for a higher system....may package rin kaming offer under Spectra.
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redkoji,
sir sent u a pm
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Hi kimpao and pasoot,
May package offer yun AVSurfer, na for starters...try mo. Its Klipsch/Nad and Definitive/Sherwood Package at 0% interest...kaya di mabigat sa bulsa.
If your looking for a higher system....may package rin kaming offer under Spectra.
how much for the klipsch/nad ? send me a pm
thanks
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try archi. audio too. i know they normally have Harman/kardon + JBL packages that are pretty reasonable. cant go wrong with a harman :)
the jbl speakers that come with the cheaper sets are small but sound great. i auditioned them last year. didn't get them lang because of my bias for b&w ;D
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Try going to electronics depot and check Dolby Pro Logic-II of Denon. I think they are on sale now.
Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
:( where is electronic depot?locationimean?
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Electronic Depot is located at Festival Mall 3rd level :)
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Kimpao and passot,
Sir try nyo Onkyo / wharfedale diamond series or Marantz 4300 / Wharfedale combo.. ok din
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ive just auditioned a harman kardon AVR4000 with infinity speakers Alpha 30, Alpha 10 at Alpha center. And it's on sale din ewan ko lang kung reasonable talaga ang price nya compare diyan sa pinas ???
Galing niya on both movies and audio. Then and Monitor na gamit ay ang plasma tv na pagkalaki laki. I don't know magkano dahil definitely hanggang pangarap ko lang yon. pro iyon ang pinaka malaking plasma na nakita ko ;D ;D halos tapusin ko ang palabas, nahiya lang ako sa salesman na indiano ;D ;D ;D
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mga pinoydvd experts,
i need your advise. i am here in australia now and am checking their audio stuff. meron ditong kenwood receivers na for sale. DTS, DD and prologic 2 ata (di ko maaala kung ES din) for around 18000 pesos (converted). ok ba 'to? or will i get it the same sa pinas? or sa pinas na lang ako bili?
thanks in advance...
;D ;D ;D
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give us the model number for better verification that the unit is indeed cheaper bro
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....then again at P18K, malamang that receiver is a good buy na.
people on this site though aren't fond of kenwood. but i suggest you test it and if the sound is to your liking go get it ;D
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hey guys thanx for all those information! can i see all those things in electronics depot?
by the way can you guys pm me how much does it cost?
thanx guys! ;D
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hi everyone!
just registered kangina. am currently looking for a descent receiver and speaker system for my ht to be. may mga suggestion ba kayo. am looking at 30K to 35K budget for both.
Try going to AVSurfer or Spectra they have special packages that could meet your budget
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mga pinoydvd experts,
i need your advise. i am here in australia now and am checking their audio stuff. meron ditong kenwood receivers na for sale. DTS, DD and prologic 2 ata (di ko maaala kung ES din) for around 18000 pesos (converted). ok ba 'to? or will i get it the same sa pinas? or sa pinas na lang ako bili?
thanks in advance...
;D ;D ;D
hey junji, nasaan ka sa australia ngayon? are you just visiting, baka nasa melbourne ka e I would like to meet fellow pinoydvd members...supermini-EB. If you're just visiting, I think mas mabuti pang sa Pilipinas ka na lang bumili dahil for one thing, warranty-if something happens alangan naman bumalik ka pa dito unless they offer international warranty. also, bibili ka pa ng extrang adaptor dahil iba ang saksakan dito at hassle pa ang magbuhat ng mabigat na receiver pabalik ng pinas at baka kahuyin pa sa customs o mabalibag sa cargo unless i-handcarry mo.
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hey howzabout the yamaha tss-10?
Is that any good?
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Electronic Depot is located at Festival Mall 3rd level :)
yah!! thanks, i visit there yesterday, but they are no longer carries denon as far as their salesman says. or wala sila stocks. introduced nila marantz 4300. is it ok ba? tsaka overprice naman compare to otherdealer na napagtanungan ko.
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question lang po sirs,
Ive got an HTib philips 580M.. since may receiver ako di ko ginagamit ang 5 sattelite speakers nya at subwoofer. Im not sure kung ano ang rating ng mga speakers na yon though.
Can I use those speakers and sub sa aking PC? if so how can i connect it? ???
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Electronic Depot is located at Festival Mall 3rd level :)
yah!! thanks, i visit there yesterday, but they are no longer carries denon as far as their salesman says. or wala sila stocks. introduced nila marantz 4300. is it ok ba? tsaka overprice naman compare to otherdealer na napagtanungan ko.
i think they are a bit pricier because they are in a mall. there location is pretty good pa being in a high traffic part of festi.
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;D ;D ;D
abdulratz- You can check out the thread in the Deals and Promos folder to check out the Marantz 4300 being offered by Electronics Depot.
DD-EX and DTS-ES capable.
Good luck! ;)
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question lang po sirs,
Ive got an HTib philips 580M.. since may receiver ako di ko ginagamit ang 5 sattelite speakers nya at subwoofer. Im not sure kung ano ang rating ng mga speakers na yon though.
Can I use those speakers and sub sa aking PC? if so how can i connect it? ???
i believe you can do this. if i remember right there is a certain card you can connect which will allow you direct connection. better ask a pc store to be sure. but i know it can be done
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I'm a newbie in terms of what is better receiver to buy, so pwede po bang humingi ng suggestion, kasi im planning to buy Kenwood 5060D receiver for 25k with 5.1 speaker 100w x 6 (passive sub). Ok kaya to? or meron pa ba kayong masgandang recommendation?
I need your good suggestion and recommendation, asap.
thanks ??? ???
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I'm a newbie in terms of what is better receiver to buy, so pwede po bang humingi ng suggestion, kasi im planning to buy Kenwood 5060D receiver for 25k with 5.1 speaker 100w x 6 (passive sub). Ok kaya to? or meron pa ba kayong masgandang recommendation?
I need your good suggestion and recommendation, asap.
thanks ??? ???
by the way how much is your budget? ???
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to enygma
25k lang! :-\
Thanks
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If 25k is your max budget and you want a complete set na and not that particular with the sound there are some htib's available, you can consider that kenwood, another one is the terrapin set. but if you want to upgrade medyo limited options mo.
But if you prefer sound quality as well then I suggest you take it one step at a time. A great entry level receiver (in my opinion) is the marantz sr4300, the lowest I asked is 15.5k and start from there, marami siyang features and is a great sounding receiver for the price. sa kenwood kasi although complete siya limited options mo. You can start with the marantz then get a decent pair of fronts. You can try the branded entry level but good speakers like the wharfedale diamonds or entry level missions. You can also try to ask nirvblakr, he has a friend that makes custom made speakers that sound pretty darn good but not hard on the wallet...di nga branded pero soundwise ;D.
You can also try dai-1chi speakers and you might get fronts, center and rears, if home theater is your only priority.
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marantz 4300 and
sets of speakers and sub from nirvblkr
oks din to :D
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;D ;D ;D
Marantz is really a good buy for P15.5K. I think this is the cheapest I have seen with DD-EX and DTS-ES features. ;)
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question:
comparison between B&W and Infinity (Complete set of speakers and sub). Ano ang pipiliin nyo? and your komento.
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What models are you refering to?
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What models are you refering to?
Sir Levi,
B&W
Infinity
- Alpha 30
- Alpha 10
- Alpha center
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mas gusto ko b&w :) ok ang infinity for movies but not so much on audio in my opinion.
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I may be bias but I will choose B&W. That is what Im using except for the 601, instead I have the 602. I havent tried the alpha except for a short demo only.
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question:
comparison between B&W and Infinity (Complete set of speakers and sub). Ano ang pipiliin nyo? and your komento.
Bro,
That would also depend on what receiver you will be using...B@W may sound better than infinity to a certain receiver...Same also as Infinity...it may also sound better with a certain receiver....speaker and Receiver compatibility is very critical.
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Joey,
Between Alpha and 600 series, I'd choose the latter (B&W). But please note that they are of different price ranges. The Alpha bookshelf is only 62% of the B&W 601. Alphas competition is the B&W303 and not the B&W601s.
Have fun,
Epoy
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Joey,
Between Alpha and 600 series, I'd choose the latter (B&W). But please note that they are of different price ranges. The Alpha bookshelf is only 62% of the B&W 601. Alphas competition is the B&W303 and not the B&W601s.
Have fun,
Epoy
Sir how much ba ang Infinity speakers?
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Sir Levi,
B&W
Infinity
- Alpha 30
- Alpha 10
- Alpha center
the above will be match sa Harman kardon and Marantz or Yamaha.
The prices of the infinity speakers here in qatar complete set 5.1 is about 1K dont know about the rating of it.
na auditioned ko na kasi ang infinity sa Harman Kardon oks na oks sya (siguro break in na break in na yon). dito sa Qatar
na auditioned ko rin sa Archie audio ang 300 series ng B&W oks na oks din sya eh di lalo na ang 600 series nila.
komento?
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Sir Levi,
B&W
Infinity
- Alpha 30
- Alpha 10
- Alpha center
na auditioned ko na kasi ang infinity sa Harman Kardon oks na oks sya
komento?
Heard this one too sa architectural audio and they are really good. Bookshelf lang ang ginagmit matched with HK 2550...And mapapa wow ka sa audio he!!he!!
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i think iyong na-auditoned ko sa archie audio ay kappa infinity... Iyon oks na oks ang tunog, hinahanap ko rito iyon to compare prices wala eh... sa halip alpha series ang nakita ko.....
well pagdaong ko sa pampang hahanapin ko ito sa buong kapuluan. ;D
audition lang siyempre ;D ;D
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which do you prefer as an entry level receiver:
???
1. Yamaha rx-v430
2. Onkyo tx-sr500
3. Denon 1403
and also can paired this with nsp230 yamaha speaker?
thanks
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which do you prefer as an entry level receiver:
???
1. Yamaha rx-v430
2. Onkyo tx-sr500
3. Denon 1403
and also can paired this with nsp230 yamaha speaker?
thanks
For Music or for Movies?
Add also to your choices the H/K 2550 and the Marantz SR4300.
Of all the five, I will choose the H/K 2550 or the Marantz SR4300. The former has the edge in music quality while the latter is upgradeable to 6.1 channel and very good in movies.
Well the best thing is to audition, pairing of speakers and to trust you ears.
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which do you prefer as an entry level receiver:
???
1. Yamaha rx-v430
2. Onkyo tx-sr500
3. Denon 1403
and also can paired this with nsp230 yamaha speaker?
thanks
If you already have the nsp-230 speakers..get the yamaha..match na match yan
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For Music or for Movies?
Add also to your choices the H/K 2550 and the Marantz SR4300.
Of all the five, I will choose the H/K 2550 or the Marantz SR4300. The former has the edge in music quality while the latter is upgradeable to 6.1 channel and very good in movies.
Well the best thing is to audition, pairing of speakers and to trust you ears.
thanks for all your suggestion.
Saan ako pwedeng mag audition H/K and Marantz, meron ba dito sa makati?
Anung magandang i-pair the speaker?
Mura lang bang magpasetup kay nirvblakr, saan ko sya pwedeng tawagan?
pasensya na daming kong tanong, sa inyo lang kasi ako ng rerely kung anung magandang bilhin.
Thanks again ;)
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sa hk pede mo auditioned sa archietectural audio or sa spectra both in Makati.
sa maratnz listening room sa megamall or hyperaudio or kay sonny tuazon
sa speakers ni nirvblkr, ayos na ayos iyon. see his thread. and pm mo na lang siya definitely sasagot yon.
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i saw in rotel website, their receivers being matched with b&w speakers. series 3 yata iyon. gandang combination sigurado iyon. but madalang yata ang nagpopost ng set-up with rotel receiver dito sa pinoy dvd. in this site, most common after the japanese receivers is nad and harman. mostly, rotel integrated and power amplifiers ang nababasa ko dito. anyone out there na may rotel receiver? personal reviews? :)
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i think b&w already bought rotel, or maybe the other way around, cant remember which.
rotel receivers are a bit more expensive than nad receivers, maybe thats why there are few takers here. specially ngayon na very reasonably priced na ang nad products, courtesy o redkoji.
when i was in singapore, most people seemed to prefer rotel separates as opposed to the rotel receivers because of the slight price difference (at least to them). last time i checked, the entry-level rotel av receiver costs around SG$1500, while the rotel pre/pro and power amp can be had for around SG$2500-2700, a price diff of at least P30,000. chump change for them.
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i saw in rotel website, their receivers being matched with b&w speakers. series 3 yata iyon. gandang combination sigurado iyon. but madalang yata ang nagpopost ng set-up with rotel receiver dito sa pinoy dvd. in this site, most common after the japanese receivers is nad and harman. mostly, rotel integrated and power amplifiers ang nababasa ko dito. anyone out there na may rotel receiver? personal reviews? :)
enygma ang rotel sa UAE too much... he he he he
kya sasawa ka sa kaka-auditioned doon, then siguradong bago ka umuwi kumpleto na set mo ROTEL with latest B&W... galeng... :D
basta don't forget to post your findings and comments. ;D
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Joey,
Between Alpha and 600 series, I'd choose the latter (B&W). But please note that they are of different price ranges. The Alpha bookshelf is only 62% of the B&W 601. Alphas competition is the B&W303 and not the B&W601s.
Have fun,
Epoy
Epoy
nang na-audiotioned ko sanyo ang B&W hanga nako eh pro 303 yata iyon.
iyong kappa infinity nyo doon ako bilib eh. level ba ng b&W yon?
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enygma ang rotel sa UAE too much... he he he he
kya sasawa ka sa kaka-auditioned doon, then siguradong bago ka umuwi kumpleto na set mo ROTEL with latest B&W... galeng... :D
basta don't forget to post your findings and comments. ;D
what do you mean by too much? sobrang mahal ba? di pa naman ako nagsasawa sa harman ko eh at wala pa akong balak magupgrade dahil if i'll be going with rotel kailangan ko pa ng maraming pera. hehehehe ;D ;D ;D
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i mean plenty of rotel in UAE..... pag nandoon ka na sisiw na sayo yon. ;D
me exclusive distributor and rotel sa uae eh. Hirap lang tawagan dahil naka answering machine pagka busy eh long distance call yon.
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i saw in rotel website, their receivers being matched with b&w speakers. series 3 yata iyon. gandang combination sigurado iyon. but madalang yata ang nagpopost ng set-up with rotel receiver dito sa pinoy dvd. in this site, most common after the japanese receivers is nad and harman. mostly, rotel integrated and power amplifiers ang nababasa ko dito. anyone out there na may rotel receiver? personal reviews? :)
Rotel is one of the more expensive brands in the Philippines so its seldom to see members using it. We have a thread for rotel receivers. Rotel RSX-1065 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=4381)
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sayang ganda rin ng rotel medyo me kamahalan din dito kasi, if you can just see their 100w x 5 receiver, built like a tank and quite tall, di ka magdududa na 100w x 5, mahal nga lang
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If your interested with a Rotel receiver, hyperaudio is selling a second hand unit.
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Rotel is one of the more expensive brands in the Philippines so its seldom to see members using it. We have a thread for rotel receivers.
kaya siguro may kamahalan ang rotel is that according to their catalog (if that is true), lahat ng parts ng kanilang products ay sila mismo ang gumagawa just to be sure na pumasa ito with their standards. unlike nad and harman which is made or assembled in china to lower the cost. if ever gawa ang mga ito from states or uk, i doubt kung makakabili ako ng harman which we all know is sa states ang origin niya. hehehehe
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mabigat ang rotel .... sobra bigat pati sa bulsa....
enygma, what's your second choice after HK? maganda bang mag 6.1 or 7.1 na? :D
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mabigat ang rotel .... sobra bigat pati sa bulsa....
enygma, what's your second choice after HK? maganda bang mag 6.1 or 7.1 na? :D
magandang mag-6.1 or 7.1 kung may dedicated HT room na ako. in my case wala akong paglalagyan ng rear speakers pa eh and besides wala pa akong budget for another amplifier. puro gamit na iyung nasa room ko eh. second choice after hk? di ko pa narinig iyung nad atsaka iyung rotel but if given the chance na maghigh-end ako, rotel na siguro ang pipiliin ko. expensive but you get what you've paid for. ikaw anong balak mo pagdating mo next month? tutal may budget ka na naman, why don't you try PA2000 ng harman para makapag-7.1 ka na. as of now, satisfied talaga ako sa harman 5500 ko. next upgrade ko siguro is to make my speakers all b&w. saka na iyung rotel basta kapag nandoon na ako, wag ko lang maririnig at baka magbago ang isip ko. hehehehe nakapagdemo ka na ba ng rotel? oks ba talaga? :)
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di pa ko nag audition ng rotel sabi ni Sir levi available daw sa Hyperaudio.
tawag ako ng tawag sa distributor sa UAE pra mag-inquire sa presyo to no avail... answering machine ang nasagot. Busy lagi ang phone long distance call pa naman yon.... taas na naman ang telephone bill ko sa office.
Walang rotel dito sa qatar, kailangan dumaan ng UAE and stay there for a night para ma-audition.
PA2000 diba amp yon ng HK ;D
let's say may dedicated room ka na and ayaw mo ng high end so what's next after HK? NAD? Yammy or Marantz? ;D
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actually in the west rotel is still considered as budget to mid-end. Dito medyo high end na kasi mahal compared to other receivers pero if you compare the price for a rotel pre-pro setup compared to other pre-pro's relatively cheaper pa rin ~190k for a 6.1/7.1 pre pro and a 200W x 5 amplifier or a 5 x 120w and 2 x 130w for a 7.1 setup :o
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di pa ko nag audition ng rotel sabi ni Sir levi available daw sa Hyperaudio.
tawag ako ng tawag sa distributor sa UAE pra mag-inquire sa presyo to no avail... answering machine ang nasagot. Busy lagi ang phone long distance call pa naman yon.... taas na naman ang telephone bill ko sa office.
Walang rotel dito sa qatar, kailangan dumaan ng UAE and stay there for a night para ma-audition.
PA2000 diba amp yon ng HK ;D
let's say may dedicated room ka na and ayaw mo ng high end so what's next after HK? NAD? Yammy or Marantz? ;D
meron nga si hyperaudio. i think its a preamp and a 7.1 multichannel amplifier. more or less 200k din iyon. hehehehe talagang mabigat sa bulsa. ;D wala bang email add ang rotel sa uae? maybe you can try that. iyung naunang kaibigan ko na dapat kasabay namin, nasa abu dhabi siya ngayon. the problem is di naman ganon kahilig sa audio at home theater iyon eh. kaya di ako makapagtanong doon. yeah, harman amp iyung PA2000. ito iyung ikakabit mo sa hk5500 mo to make it 6.1 or 7.1. kailangan pa natin kasi ng another amplifier para maging ganito ang set-up natin. next to hk, siempre nad na ako. next is yamaha but iyung high end na nila. hmmmm.... parang nagbabalak ka na namang bumili talaga ng 2nd receiver mo ha. hehehe ano ba balak mo? ???
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actually in the west rotel is still considered as budget to mid-end. Dito medyo high end na kasi mahal compared to other receivers pero if you compare the price for a rotel pre-pro setup compared to other pre-pro's relatively cheaper pa rin ~190k for a 6.1/7.1 pre pro and a 200W x 5 amplifier or a 5 x 120w and 2 x 130w for a 7.1 setup :o
humanga ako kasi don sa previous review nila about rsp-1066 and then iyung napaired sa kanya na amplifier. siya iyung pinakaleast expensive pero still he got 5 stars sa what hi-fi review. in that test walang harman o nad na nakasama sa test. di siguro nakapagbigay ng sample unit ang dalawang ito for them to review. ang ganda sana kung sino sa tatlong ito (nad, harman, rotel) ang magiging winner. :o
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wala kasing pre pro ang harman, I don't know why di sinama yung pre-pro and amp ng NAD siguro kasi 2001 pa ito narelease, pero maganda rin ang review. What I really like for the rotel are their amps, mukhang ok na ok for ht if ever I go all out and setup a dedicated ht room. pero sa ngayon ok na ko sa setup ko hehe.
Sa hi-fi choice naman they prefer NAD over HK receiver wise, pero by a small margin lang but the key word here is that they are still considered budget receivers. Iba talaga pag malaki sweldo sa bansa nila.
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enygma pm you
Ill check their email and post it here na lang.
Syanga pala sa UAE most of the electronics store doon sell their items on terms. Kailangan mo lang ang sulat from the company na they will be notified them upon termination of your employment. Mostly payment pa up to three years.
Kya kayang kaya mong mag set up ng kumpletong HT (rotel, b&W, high end DVD players and Plasma) roon in one go then you'll pay it for 1,2 or 3 years kung okey pa nga ang company mo they might give it to you for five years. he he he eh...
Kya ano pa ang hinihintay tayo ng magtungo sa Abu Dhabi ;D ;D
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enygma pm you
Ill check their email and post it here na lang.
Syanga pala sa UAE most of the electronics store doon sell their items on terms. Kailangan mo lang ang sulat from the company na they will be notified them upon termination of your employment. Mostly payment pa up to three years.
Kya kayang kaya mong mag set up ng kumpletong HT (rotel, b&W, high end DVD players and Plasma) roon in one go then you'll pay it for 1,2 or 3 years kung okey pa nga ang company mo they might give it to you for five years. he he he eh...
Kya ano pa ang hinihintay tayo ng magtungo sa Abu Dhabi ;D ;D
Problema na lang paano iuuwi sa pinas hehehe
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pag used na ang mga ganoong items usually mura na ang tax, lets say gagastos pa siya ng mga more or less 400USD for the shipment ng lahat ng iyon. (air cargo)
siyempre dapat sisingitan mo yon ng mga damit, medyas at kung ano anong malalambot na bagay para ma protektahan maigi ;D ;D ;D
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pre, sent you a pm regarding don sa tanong mo sa akin. hehehe matindi na talaga ang SARS mo. ;D
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Syanga pala sa UAE most of the electronics store doon sell their items on terms. Kailangan mo lang ang sulat from the company na they will be notified them upon termination of your employment. Mostly payment pa up to three years.
Kya kayang kaya mong mag set up ng kumpletong HT (rotel, b&W, high end DVD players and Plasma) roon in one go then you'll pay it for 1,2 or 3 years kung okey pa nga ang company mo they might give it to you for five years. he he he eh...
Kya ano pa ang hinihintay tayo ng magtungo sa Abu Dhabi ;D ;D
naikwento mo na sa akin ito before when we met at archie audio abt this installment plan sa abu dhabi. mahirap magset-up ng ht doon unless malaki ang sweldo ko. amplifier at speakers lang ang bibilhin ko doon para di ako mainip o mahomesick. hehehe saka na iyung mga binanggit mo na mga brand dahil pampagawa na ng bahay ang halaga non. hehehehe
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Got your pm enygma tenx,
OT
Oo nga bahay muna bago ang HT. ;D
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was able to talk to ROTEL distributor in UAE.
whew...
RSX 1065 1.89K USD
RSX 1055 1.34K USD
bigat talaga 20 kgs pa......
enygma,
20 kgs pasok na pasok sa allowed baggage pagka uuwi ka mula UAE patungo sa pinas ;D
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Courage,
Sorry for the late response. I was on vacation for the holy week and had no internet access. My sincerest apologies.
Regarding your question, here are the prices of the Infinities:
Entra One (Bookshelf - 6.5" 125W) P15,900
Kappa 200 (Bookshelf - 6.5" 100W) P38,950
Please note that these prices are suggested retail prices. Kindly call us for actual prices since these might change due to unstable foreign exchange rates.
Thank you for your interest in our offerings.
Happy Easter.
Architectural Audio
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Qman,
Sorry rin for the late response. Bakasyon kasi at walang internet access sa pinuntahan namin.
In anycase, yes, the Kappas are higher than both the B&W 303s and 601s.
Happy Easter!!
Architectural Audio
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Entra One (Bookshelf - 6.5" 125W) P15,900
Kappa 200 (Bookshelf - 6.5" 100W) P38,950
Nico/Epoy,
Pa pm naman ang price nya in cash
tenx
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pa pm kung san pinakamura ang marantz sr-4300 and how much
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Entra One (Bookshelf - 6.5" 125W) P15,900
Kappa 200 (Bookshelf - 6.5" 100W) P38,950
Nico/Epoy,
Pa pm naman ang price nya in cash
tenx
yaiks... nagmahal agad ang kappa.
Gurus,
ano ba ang ka-level ng mission sa kappa,? iyon M780 ba or yong iba? me idea ba kayo sa presyo nire?
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around the same price din ata yung ka level ng mission for the kappa, you'll be rewarded soundwise naman e sakit nga lang sa bulsa hehehe ;D
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pa pm kung san pinakamura ang marantz sr-4300 and how much
san ka na nag canvass ng marantz 4300 and is it better than a denon 1603?
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van_wilder,
sent you a PM.
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We happened to make a comparative evaluation in a friend's house yesterday on Denon 1803 paired with Mission M74, M7c2, M71, yamaha sub sw160 vs. Onkyo sr600 paired with the same speakers. We find the Denon more on a bright side with hard bass. The sound is close to yamaha but with harder bass. The Onkyo still maintains the sweet sound it is known for. Very convincing and realistic in audio but needs a subwoofer on HT since a good bass cannot be reproduced on the Mains if all are set to large.
We used Pioneer DV-515 with MIT terminator optical interconnect; IXOS 6006 speaker wire for all the channels.
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We happened to make a comparative evaluation in a friend's house yesterday on Denon 1803 paired with Mission M74, M7c2, M71, yamaha sub sw160 vs. Onkyo sr600 paired with the same speakers. We find the Denon more on a bright side with hard bass. The sound is close to yamaha but with harder bass. The Onkyo still maintains the sweet sound it is known for. Very convincing and realistic in audio but needs a subwoofer on HT since a good bass cannot be reproduced on the Mains if all are set to large.
We used Pioneer DV-515 with MIT terminator optical interconnect; IXOS 6006 speaker wire for all the channels.
Nice review new_age...haven't heard onkyo yet paired with mission.Been torn between 1803 and sr600...i liked the denon and mission combo.No comment yet on Onkyo....hope to give my verdict as soon as i have auditioned the sr600 paired with mission
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We happened to make a comparative evaluation in a friend's house yesterday on Denon 1803 paired with Mission M74, M7c2, M71, yamaha sub sw160 vs. Onkyo sr600 paired with the same speakers. We find the Denon more on a bright side with hard bass. The sound is close to yamaha but with harder bass. The Onkyo still maintains the sweet sound it is known for. Very convincing and realistic in audio but needs a subwoofer on HT since a good bass cannot be reproduced on the Mains if all are set to large.
We used Pioneer DV-515 with MIT terminator optical interconnect; IXOS 6006 speaker wire for all the channels.
Nice review new_age...haven't heard onkyo yet paired with mission.Been torn between 1803 and sr600...i liked the denon and mission combo.No comment yet on Onkyo....hope to give my verdict as soon as i have auditioned the sr600 paired with mission
Bili na pare ehehehe. OT: Natanggap mo ba text ko regarding papuntang batangas pier? Outing ha ehehehe...daming tsiks dun pare ehehehe
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We happened to make a comparative evaluation in a friend's house yesterday on Denon 1803 paired with Mission M74, M7c2, M71, yamaha sub sw160 vs. Onkyo sr600 paired with the same speakers. We find the Denon more on a bright side with hard bass. The sound is close to yamaha but with harder bass. The Onkyo still maintains the sweet sound it is known for. Very convincing and realistic in audio but needs a subwoofer on HT since a good bass cannot be reproduced on the Mains if all are set to large.
We used Pioneer DV-515 with MIT terminator optical interconnect; IXOS 6006 speaker wire for all the channels.
Nice review new_age...haven't heard onkyo yet paired with mission.Been torn between 1803 and sr600...i liked the denon and mission combo.No comment yet on Onkyo....hope to give my verdict as soon as i have auditioned the sr600 paired with mission
Bili na pare ehehehe. OT: Natanggap mo ba text ko regarding papuntang batangas pier? Outing ha ehehehe...daming tsiks dun pare ehehehe
OO nga eh..nangangati na ako..lapit na ang May...sana wala na ibang pagkakagastusan para tuloy na ang upgrade.
Sent you pm
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Go Dex.
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Sir Dex,
Mas ok nga Onkyo paired with Mission heard it at Hyperaudio's place sweet sounding konting adjust lang Sub ok na
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I agree. I heard an Onkyo TXSR700 + Mission m74 setup recently and it sounded much sweeter than my Yamaha + B&W combo.
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Hi kimpao and pasoot,
May package offer yun AVSurfer, na for starters...try mo. Its Klipsch/Nad and Definitive/Sherwood Package at 0% interest...kaya di mabigat sa bulsa.
If your looking for a higher system....may package rin kaming offer under Spectra.
thanks, location ng AVSurfer? Am interested with the Klipsh/Nad combo....dami na ako narinig na ok yung dalawa.
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Kimpao,
Here is the link STUDIO SYSTEMS : SUPER SALE AND EVENTS (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=8533)
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Kimpao,
Here is the link STUDIO SYSTEMS : SUPER SALE AND EVENTS (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=8533)
sir levi
thank you
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Kimpao,
look for Kit or Ronald at Studio Systems
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tnx. might call them within the week and most probably drop by
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Which is better combination?
1. Mission and HK
2. Mission and Denon
Need your advice. tnx.
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Both receiver will sound good with Missions.
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Thanks levi.
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juls168 - I suugest you get HK and mission combo!!!
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hello I'm new here. anyway I wanted to know if anyone out there tried the pioneer VSX-AX10i-G? also where to find it and how much? thanks
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the ax10i is a pretty expensive receiver. i haven't seen any unit displayed on any of the a/v stores here in metro manila its price could be more or less than 200k.
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hello I'm new here. anyway I wanted to know if anyone out there tried the pioneer VSX-AX10i-G? also where to find it and how much? thanks
Pioneer VSX-AX10 (MCACC) (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=5766;start=msg84017#msg84017)
Although di pa ito "i" version.
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ang mahal naman pala nito. Denon na lang or Onkyo. Thanks sa mga nag reply.
BTW could any of you recommend kung ano ang magandang HTIB ( Home Theater In A Box).
Thanks again
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i would rather suggest that you plan on purchasing these thing per component (i.e. AVR, Speakers, DVD Player, etc.). Ganun din kasi yung presyo ng HTIB. sigurado wala ka masyadong upgrade options for HTIB. una i was considering HTIB kaso dami na ako narinig na comments on this.
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ang mahal naman pala nito. Denon na lang or Onkyo. Thanks sa mga nag reply.
BTW could any of you recommend kung ano ang magandang HTIB ( Home Theater In A Box).
Thanks again
There are pioneer HTIB na 20k+ pero di lalampas nang 30k, u can check em out at ur favorite Appliance stores
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ang mahal naman pala nito. Denon na lang or Onkyo. Thanks sa mga nag reply.
BTW could any of you recommend kung ano ang magandang HTIB ( Home Theater In A Box).
Thanks again
We have a thread for HTIB:
HT in a Box (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=1617)
Pero kung HTIB lang din, dito na ako:
HTZ1000DVD (http://www.pioneer.com.sg/products/hv_dvdsystem/htz1000dvd.asp)
Complete features and its worth about Php 65K. :P
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mukha ngang maganda yung pioneer na htz1000dv.
thanks for the info.
Can you give me a recommended lists on every component (AVR, DVD player, Speakers)? ang budget ko is 50-60K.
Thanks
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mukha ngang maganda yung pioneer na htz1000dv.
thanks for the info.
Can you give me a recommended lists on every component (AVR, DVD player, Speakers)? ang budget ko is 50-60K.
Thanks
Tell us muna kung ano yung mga preferences (clarity, sound quality, bass, power, flexibility, etc.) mo and saan mo gagamitin (music, HT or both). And ano yung mga expectations mo. O kaya kung may plan ka na like kung anong brand ang medyo okay sa iyo or may nakaplano ka ng sample set-up, etc. etc. etc.
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gusto ko sana yung medyo high end although di ko sure kung aabot sa budget ko. yung may THX certified AVR and anong mga match nilang speakers. sorry po kung medyo magulo kasi baguhan lang po ako dito. thanks again
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gusto ko sana yung medyo high end although di ko sure kung aabot sa budget ko. yung may THX certified AVR and anong mga match nilang speakers. sorry po kung medyo magulo kasi baguhan lang po ako dito. thanks again
any preference would do. usage? HT and Music.
thanks again
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THX Certified Receivers
Denon: AVR-4802/R, AVR-5803
Pioneer: VSX-D1011-G, VSX-D2011-G & VSX-AX10i-G
Harman Kardon: AVR8500
Yamaha:
NAD:
Onkyo: TX-DS989/ver 2, TX-NR900, TX-SR800,
Rotel:
Marantz: SR8200, SR8300, SR9200, SR9300
Kenwood: VR-6070, VR-5900, VR-5080, VR-5700, VR-5090
Well most of those THX Receivers are priced from 50K upto about 400K.
It’s very hard to name a particular brand, cause you limit yourself to THX Receivers.
If you really want a THX certified receiver, I suggest look for the brands that I posted above in the corresponding manufacturers site and see the features and compare them inch by inch, also the price, so you will have selections based on the features & price then narrow down your choices.
But again, THX sound does not necessarily promise a good sound. There are lots of things to be considered.
Then saka na lang tayo mag-isp ng imamatch nating speakers.
For DVD Player, well I suggest Pioneer 655; it plays DVD-Video/Audio, SACD, SACD-Mutichannel, MP3, and JPEG pictures.
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gusto ko sana yung medyo high end although di ko sure kung aabot sa budget ko. yung may THX certified AVR and anong mga match nilang speakers. sorry po kung medyo magulo kasi baguhan lang po ako dito. thanks again
If your after THX, all of your equipments must be THX. I dont think your budget would fit. 50 to 60 would only give you a 5.1 speakers plus a mid model receiver. You still need a DVD player, subwoofer, TV and cables. You can go for entry level components.
Receiver:
Denon 1403,1603
Harman kardon 2550,3550
Yamaha 430,530
Marantz 4300,5300
Onkyo SR500,
Speakers:
Mission M70 series
Wharfedale Diamond 8
DVD Player:
Pioneer 355
Nextbase
Subs
Dynaquest
US Lab
Ganz Klar
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thanks phil and levi. pag iisipan ko pa kung ano yung set up ko. dami naman ako natutunan dito sa forum e. thanks again
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Maganda rin ba yung Mordaun Short speakers? ano ang compatible na avr nya?
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If your after THX, all of your equipments must be THX. I dont think your budget would fit. 50 to 60 would only give you a 5.1 speakers plus a mid model receiver. You still need a DVD player, subwoofer, TV and cables. You can go for entry level components.
Receiver:
Denon 1403,1603
Harman kardon 2550,3550
Yamaha 430,530
Marantz 4300,5300
Onkyo SR500,
Speakers:
Mission M70 series
Wharfedale Diamond 8
DVD Player:
Pioneer 355
Nextbase
Subs
Dynaquest
US Lab
Ganz Klar
If you start with THX, it does not mean that THX certified na rin dapat ung rest of equipment mo like speakers, Players, and Speakers.
For a receiver to gain THX Certification, it has to comply with some of the requirements set by G. Lucas Company like:
Adaptive Decorrelation
Timber Matching
Re-equalization, etc.
KENWOOD KRF - X 9060 D is a THX Select Certified Receiver at 25k.
Pioneer aslo has. I forgot the model Number. It's somewhere at Park Square. Nasa 30k.
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What's the point if your after THX receivers if you wont get THX certified gears. Its not a guarantee that it will sound good. There are other components that will sound good or even better. Im not against THX but based from the given situation, It would be better to get other models. Given everything equal, of course it would be better to get THX.
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thanks nels and levi. Medyo naguguluhan pa rin ako sa mga HT e. Still looking for good products and maybe this week punta ko sa megamall pa audition ako sa products nila.
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thanks nels and levi. Medyo naguguluhan pa rin ako sa mga HT e. Still looking for good products and maybe this week punta ko sa megamall pa audition ako sa products nila.
Try mo ring pumunta sa ParkSquare 1, The HomeTheater and sa New World Hotel, much better ang customer service dun kasya sa Megamall, IMHO.
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Phil
Thanks. Maybe this weekend or next week ko punta dun sa Park Square. Thanks Again.
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sa dami dami ng nabasa ko dito eto ang mga pinagpipiliaan ko na receiver
HK 5500 - based on exp of Courage
Kenwood ? - based on exp of nels (ata)
Denon 1803 - price and features sabi nila
I have 30K budget para sa receiver, 40% music, 60% movies ako, what do you suggest? ty.
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HK dagdagan mo lang ng 4K ang budget mo me HK5500 ka na. Galeng nito in both (movies and music).
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If you can afford to add some more go for the HK but if you cant, go for the Denon 1803. Both are good for their prices.
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anyone, comments please. what do you think of this entry level setup:
fronts : Wharfdale Diamond 8.4
Center : Wharfdale Diamond 8
rear : Wharfdale Diamond 8.1
subs : DQ12
receiver : denon 1803
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anyone, comments please. what do you think of this entry level setup:
fronts : Wharfdale Diamond 8.4
Center : Wharfdale Diamond 8
rear : Wharfdale Diamond 8.1
subs : DQ12
receiver : denon 1803
Denons is best matched with B&W or Missions, i did a side by side comparison between wharfs and Missions powered by the 1803, mission came out with flying colors, hindi ko nagustuhan ang Denon and Wharfs comb. but its just me :)
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what if i were to use yamaha rxv630? ok ba?
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what if i were to use yamaha rxv630? ok ba?
Well my 1st receiver is Yamaha RXV520 and a wharf 8.3, Diamond Center connected to it, very very good when watching movies, medyo hindi ko lang gusto sa music, well maybe its the Yammys Fault not the wharfs..but Wharfs sound good on a Yamaha. :) but again its just me.
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tnx courage, i'd rather get first hand opinions than going out right away and spending something which is not worth it. was in makati yesterday and there's this shop beside spectra selling the diamonds ([email protected], [email protected], centers@4k and dq12@6K yung denon [email protected], 20+ yung 1803 but the rxv530 is at 18K) punta ako ng ambassador kaso closed pa sila (12:30 nn, whoa!!!!).
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tnx courage, i'd rather get first hand opinions than going out right away and spending something which is not worth it. was in makati yesterday and there's this shop beside spectra selling the diamonds ([email protected], [email protected], centers@4k and dq12@6K yung denon [email protected], 20+ yung 1803 but the rxv530 is at 18K) punta ako ng ambassador kaso closed pa sila (12:30 nn, whoa!!!!).
I think rxv-630 yung yamaha na 18K+ not the Rxv 530
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saan mo nakita yung 630 na 18k?
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tnx courage, i'd rather get first hand opinions than going out right away and spending something which is not worth it. was in makati yesterday and there's this shop beside spectra selling the diamonds ([email protected], [email protected], centers@4k and dq12@6K yung denon [email protected], 20+ yung 1803 but the rxv530 is at 18K) punta ako ng ambassador kaso closed pa sila (12:30 nn, whoa!!!!).
Thats right, and also iaudition mo nang todo yung bibilhin mo, kahit abutin ka nang tatlo or apat na oras pakinggan mo mabuti, check the unit for some bugs and some flaws. When i purchase my HK it took me 4 hours in testing and auditioning the unit, sinigurado kong walang problema at ayos na ayos...para hindi masayang ang pinaghirapan nating pera. :)
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saan mo nakita yung 630 na 18k?
Ask redtangent he quoted it for 18.8K...But i think someone also got it in listening room for 19K
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Courage,
Tanong lang po why is denon1803 not OK with Wharfs?
Am planning also same as kimpao kasi only difference is 8.3 and gagamitin ko.
Am not a very good listener, pero when I audtioned it OK naman, is there something I should know.
Advice naman kasi am looking at HK3550 rin
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Courage,
Tanong lang po why is denon1803 not OK with Wharfs?
Am planning also same as kimpao kasi only difference is 8.3 and gagamitin ko.
Am not a very good listener, pero when I audtioned it OK naman, is there something I should know.
Advice naman kasi am looking at HK3550 rin
Well thats my opinion only, i just dont like the sound of 1803 with wharfs, maganda ang 1803 sa mission but its just me. better that u listen to it..baka magkaiba tayo nang taste sa music and movies eh.. but both are good products though
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Courage,
Tanong lang po why is denon1803 not OK with Wharfs?
Am planning also same as kimpao kasi only difference is 8.3 and gagamitin ko.
Am not a very good listener, pero when I audtioned it OK naman, is there something I should know.
Advice naman kasi am looking at HK3550 rin
Lahat naman maganda basta hwag mo lang itabi sa ibang produkto... kasi lumalabas talaga kung aling speaker at receiver ang maganda pag side by side mo pinakinggan..para malaman mo yung sinasabi ni courage pakinggan mo yung mission at denon combo..then pakinggan mo agad yung mission at wharf combo...dun mo malalaman yung difference..swerte mo pag di mo napansin yung difference kasi makaka save ka. ;)
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Courage,
I saw so many negative comments on 1803 and wharfs. Honestly speaking na try ko na ito pero am not so sure of the sound kasi di naman ako HT expert.
I would rather get your advice towards this issue. Do you think it is better for me to go via yamaha 630 to get 6.1?
Advice please...
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Courage,
I saw so many negative comments on 1803 and wharfs. Honestly speaking na try ko na ito pero am not so sure of the sound kasi di naman ako HT expert.
I would rather get your advice towards this issue. Do you think it is better for me to go via yamaha 630 to get 6.1?
Advice please...
Try mo Marantz 4300/5300 with Wharfs...
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Courage,
I saw so many negative comments on 1803 and wharfs. Honestly speaking na try ko na ito pero am not so sure of the sound kasi di naman ako HT expert.
I would rather get your advice towards this issue. Do you think it is better for me to go via yamaha 630 to get 6.1?
Advice please...
Well the 1st time i audition the Denon 1803 and the wharfs nagandahan ako, until i heard the denon paired with the mission, ito kasing si Dexterc ang may kasalanan eh ehehehe... ;D.
Tulad nang sabi ni dex, lahat maganda wag mo lang itabi sa ibang produkto, coz nung pinakinggan namin ni dex ang difference nang denon wharf at denon mission side by side eh kitang kita namin ang difference nang sound. Talagang maswerte ka kujng di mo manonotice yung difference kasi hindi ka mapapamahal.
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Well the 1st time i audition the Denon 1803 and the wharfs nagandahan ako, until i heard the denon paired with the mission, ito kasing si Dexterc ang may kasalanan eh ehehehe... ;D.
Tulad nang sabi ni dex, lahat maganda wag mo lang itabi sa ibang produkto, coz nung pinakinggan namin ni dex ang difference nang denon wharf at denon mission side by side eh kitang kita namin ang difference nang sound. Talagang maswerte ka kujng di mo manonotice yung difference kasi hindi ka mapapamahal.
Tsaka depende rin sa budget mo yun..kung tulad ka ni pareng courage na madaming pera oks lang na pag tabi tabihin mo yung mga speakers at receivers tsaka i audition ;D...Its your personal satisfaction that matters..not the comments and reviews of other people...we are just suggesting what we believe is good and best base on our taste..its all upto you.
Good luck
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Courage,
I saw so many negative comments on 1803 and wharfs. Honestly speaking na try ko na ito pero am not so sure of the sound kasi di naman ako HT expert.
I would rather get your advice towards this issue. Do you think it is better for me to go via yamaha 630 to get 6.1?
Advice please...
Try mo marantz and mission I ended up buying this set-up and I'm very satisfied. I'm hearing my old audio cds differently these days. ;D
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Tsaka depende rin sa budget mo yun..kung tulad ka ni pareng courage na madaming pera oks lang na pag tabi tabihin mo yung mga speakers at receivers tsaka i audition ;D...Its your personal satisfaction that matters..not the comments and reviews of other people...we are just suggesting what we believe is good and best base on our taste..its all upto you.
Good luck
Langya ka wala na nga akong pera ehehehehe...puro ako utang.. ;D
wolf,
Seriously hindi lang ikaw ang mag dedecide nyan kundi pati yung wallet mo. ;D.but if u have the budget, audition equipments na kaya nang budget mo..and get what best sa ears mo. Our reviews will only give u an idea about the equipment..the rest will be ur decision..
Good luck....and wag ka magmamadali sa pagbili. Yan ang isa kong malaking pagkakamali sa hobby na ito. ;D
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Sir Courage,
If you were me, what is better to pair with Whafs:
Yun Wharf kasi decided na ako (Budget!!!)
Denon 1803 or Yamaha 630?
Advice?
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IMO the Wharf-Denon combination is also good. Its just that maybe Mission are better than Wharfedale. Compared to Yamaha, I'd go for Denon. Another thing my 6th and 7th speaker are Wharfedale Diamond 4 and they matches well with my Denon.
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wolf, san ka nagtanong ng denon 1803?
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Ambassador
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I just visited Sonny Tuazon of "The Hometheater" and he has new speakers that would rival the price of Wharfedale and the quality of Mission. Just visit him for more details.
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sir levi saan yung location ng The Hometheater?
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Levi,
What Brand is it?
I am to buy the Wharfs tommorrow? Thanks man.
Dapat yata makita yon...
Have you adutioned it already?
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kimpao,
here's the address of the home theater:
ground floor, prince tower
tordesillas st.
makati
phone: 813 8443
you can also visit their website: http://www.hometheaterph.com
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kimpao,
here's the address of the home theater:
ground floor, prince tower
tordesillas st.
makati
phone: 813 8443
you can also visit their website: http://www.hometheaterph.com
tnx, onedown
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Sir Levi,
Comments naman on the new speakers of Mr. Tuason
Brand and specs naman. Medyo malayo kasi sa amin.
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am also curious as to what brand that is ;D
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Klipsch
Synergy Series
Combining high-quality materials, the most reliable components, and refined, distinguished styling, the Klipsch Synergy Series is the world’s greatest value in high-performance home entertainment. No matter what the source, Synergy Series loudspeakers deliver everything from the softest whisper to the most intense, heart-stopping action.
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Sir Levi,
After 3 weeks of sleepless nights.
Bagsak din ako sa DENON 1803 and missions na speaker.
Gusto ko sana Wharfs pero just realized na hindi magnetically shielded yun 8.3 and I am afraid baka masira yun projection TV ko.
Most probably I will get Mission M73 and M7c1. Is it OK for me to get an 8.1 for my surrounds? or mission na rin. Yun Sub next time na due to budget constraints. Plan ko DQ12 lng.
Where can I get a good deal on the missions?
Am planning to get it tommorrow or next week.
Thanks
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Tanong lang po,
Is klipsch comparable with quality of missions?
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Sir Levi,
After 3 weeks of sleepless nights.
Bagsak din ako sa DENON 1803 and missions na speaker.
Gusto ko sana Wharfs pero just realized na hindi magnetically shielded yun 8.3 and I am afraid baka masira yun projection TV ko.
Most probably I will get Mission M73 and M7c1. Is it OK for me to get an 8.1 for my surrounds? or mission na rin. Yun Sub next time na due to budget constraints. Plan ko DQ12 lng.
Where can I get a good deal on the missions?
Am planning to get it tommorrow or next week.
Thanks
Mission and Denon is a very good pair. I had first hand experience when Firewired bought his setup from Hyperaudio. It was sounding very good out from the box, no break-in! I suggest you use Mission ( M70 ) for your surround. You could try Hyperaudio or Hometheater, they could give you good deals on Missions.
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Sir Levi,
After so many tough decisions.
And thanks to your advice, I finally went to Hometheater and got my missions and denon there.
I got the DENON 1803 and Missions M73i, M7c1, M70 and for my sub DQ12
Mr Tuason was very accomodating, and I highly recommend his shop to all. He even delivered everything and set it up in our house. Superb service as wala na ako ginawa to set it up. All I need to do was to watch and listen na...
Galing talaga bro yun missions and denon together!!!
Awesome!!! Thanks again...
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Im not sure why people are going way out for the m71. Maybe its because of the price but if i were you guys, id save some more and get the m72 instead. Bitin kasi ang tunog ng 71 relative to the 72s. I auditioned it sa HomeTheater and the diff is like day and night. Nag A-B test kami on the spot and the m72 performed so much better.
Also, the m7c1, which i often see in the forums, doesnt perform good at all. I dont know why so many ppl here recommends or is using the m7c1. Baka may problema yung m7c1 na pinakingan ko. The m7c2 kasi beats the m7c1 hands down. Ang laki ng difference, buong buo yung m7c2. Hindi lumilipad yung mga tunog sa m7c1, parang hindi makahinga. It might be because hindi pa na bre-break in yung speakers. But to think the m7c2 performed that way and nde pa din sya na bre-break in.....
Btw, i got the m72 for fronts and m7c2 for center. Im only powering it with a yamaha rvx496. For now, im using my wharf 8.1 for my read speakers. (I decided to remove my wharfs as front speakers because it's causing magnetic interferance to my TV. I placed it 1-2 feet away pero umaabot pa din yung effect nya... sayang naman kung nasira yung TV.
Among the speakers ive just bought, id say the m7c2 performed the best. Ang linaw ng tunog and the notes are extending far. Nakakahinga ng todo yung speakers, unlike the m7c1.
just my 2 cents.
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Has anyone auditioned already the klipsch synergy series speakers from Mr. ST.
Your reviews will be much appreciated and also include the price range for the different models.
Thanks.
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Hindi lumilipad yung mga tunog sa m7c1, parang hindi makahinga.
What do you mean by this? I am looking for a center speaker ryt now...so far eto na lang kulang ko..i got the m73i and m70 for surrounds...center and subs na lang oks na
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dexterc - what i said was based on a single auditioning and im not sure if the m7c1 was already geared up or baka hindi pa lang na bre-break-in but when i auditioned the m7c1, it was like kind of short of breath. The highs werent extending, yung soundstage nya was very constrained and there was no depth at all. This was the exact reverse of the m7c2. This might be because of its bigger box. The m7c2 was very much in its midrange area. The sound was very clear and mataba yung boses nung mga tao.
The difference was day and night pre. Im not sure if the m7c1 would kick in onced it gets "break-in" but if i were you, id get the m7c2. Audition it yourself to see what i mean....
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Thanks Joms,
It is really necessary to have a good center speakers for movies with a lot of dialogues ;)
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DexterC,
Ako kasi binili ko muna M7c1 for the moment. Then later on I plan to buy M7c2 and put M7c1 for my rear center.
For me OK na rin naman M7c1 for its price kasi mas maganda pa rin ito kaysa sa diamond center maski maliit.
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Getting a good center speaker is very essential in an HT set up.
The dialogues are outputted to this speaker. It is important that your center speaker can output well the dialogues of the movies clearly.
Some movies are "talkish" wherein the center channel is the main source of the sound.
Between M7C1 & M7c2, the latter is better in terms of delivering clarity. I had the same predicament when I was choosing my center but in the end, I have chosen to get the M7C2 even though the price is higher than the M7c1. It's worth it rather than getting the M7c1 and spending sleepless nights entertaining the thought of "what if I have gotten the other one"
But if you are contented and happy with the M7c1, go ahead and save some money.
Just my 2 cents.
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I would agree that the M7C2 is a lot better than the M7C1 but if your budget will only fit the smaller center, it will perform well also. Just my 1 cent advise.
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I'm just new here and I wanted know from the experts:
1. What are the advantages and the disadvantages of building your own speakers?
2. Will these match with any receivers?
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Any nice site that you can compare the "details" of every receivers? Thanks.
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try audioreview.com
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Pls recommend a good setup of HT, eigther in separates or in HTIB, for HTIB, im considering pioneer HTZ-303(P27k@abaenson), sony dav-c450 (P27k @Abenson), yamaha dvx -s80(P29,950 @listening room), yamaha dvx-s60 (P19,950 @listening room).
My basic requirements are system with:
Region free, prologic1&2, dsp efects, DTS, MP3 capable, cdr/rw capable, with FM capability, true 5.1 setup.
Pls also recommend a good place to buy your recommendation. Sa mga HT gurus pls post your comment here, your help is much appreciated!!!
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Hi jon9412833, Welcome to the Forum,
I would highly recommend that you get separates if possible. Your 30T is somewhat tight but you can start then just save up until you complete your system. Its worth the price and the wait. You can get 10 to 15T receivers then get Wharfedales and Nextbase player then save up for a Dynaquest or US Audio subwoofer. Another option would be second hand items and you might be able to complete a good sounding setup. Just my 1 cent.
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Hi jon9412833, Welcome to the Forum,
I would highly recommend that you get separates if possible. Your 30T is somewhat tight but you can start then just save up until you complete your system. Its worth the price and the wait. You can get 10 to 15T receivers then get Wharfedales and Nextbase player then save up for a Dynaquest or US Audio subwoofer. Another option would be second hand items and you might be able to complete a good sounding setup. Just my 1 cent.
Hi Levi,
Just a thought, I saw this kanina sa listening room:
YAMAHA receiver RXV-430+YAMAHA 5.1 NSP-230=23,500
+Pioneer 266 (@abenson) = P6.7k
ALL=P30.2k
Ok na kaya ito sa bagito? my floor area is 4x4 meters only. Pls advise.
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ano bang magandang av receiver na hindi masyadong mahal pero maganda ang quality? I need newer decent mid-price receiver and have no time to audition diff. brands. my previous av receivers are onkyo and denon which i can't remember the model na pero right now I have yamaha rxv-496 (bought in 1999). I am willing to try different brand but I am looking also for something with a lot of features like that auto and manual switch of video/audio source. i don't know what model has these features. iyong receiver ko kasi ay hanggang s-video lang but with toslink. I almost forgot, I also need one with 2 component input(hdtv/dvd) and a subwoofer out.
this will be part of my ht upgrade. by the way, my speakers are klipsch. tnx!
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Hi jon9412833.
i would back up the suggestion of levi and to go separates man.
With the 30 K that you have ,you can try the entry level Marantz SR4300 and match it with the speakers that you like. You can get 5 wharf speakers for 15K or you can get Mission fronts fro the time being.
Just my 1 cent.
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add kalang konti (3k), you have marantz sr4300+mission speakers front and surround...
just visit hometheater or hyperaudio para makakuha kang discount...
just my .5 cent advice.
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Hi Levi,
Just a thought, I saw this kanina sa listening room:
YAMAHA receiver RXV-430+YAMAHA 5.1 NSP-230=23,500
+Pioneer 266 (@abenson) = P6.7k
ALL=P30.2k
Ok na kaya ito sa bagito? my floor area is 4x4 meters only. Pls advise.
You could get the Marantz 4300, Denon 1403 or HK. I wont advise the Yamaha speakers, its almost the same as the HTIB. Get Better speakers.
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add kalang konti (3k), you have marantz sr4300+mission speakers front and surround...
just visit hometheater or hyperaudio para makakuha kang discount...
just my .5 cent advice.
pards saan ba yung hometheater / hyperaudio? I would like to buy it in one deal, syempre maganda kung may discount, bago lang ako sa HT kasi sawa nako sa PC lang.
Sir Levi thanks for the advice. I hope i could gather a good and reasonable price/after sales service sa mabibilan ko. I hope you could advice me a store.
Thanks to all for the sound advice!
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jon9412833,
home theater -- prince tower, tordesillas st., salcedo village, makati (813-8443) this is near makati sports club.
hyperaudio -- 3319 matanzas st., palanan, makati (832 5710) near cash and carry supermarket. matanzas st. is parallel to filmore.
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jon9412833,
home theater -- prince tower, tordesillas st., salcedo village, makati (813-8443) this is near makati sports club.
hyperaudio -- 3319 matanzas st., palanan, makati (832 5710) near cash and carry supermarket. matanzas st. is parallel to filmore.
Thanks dude, I've done some calls, they're good but it seems my 30k is not enough to compensate my hunger for good setup. According to the owner of of hometheater, my 30k is not even good enough for an entry level speaker/receiver? IS this true? Do i need to shell out 40 to 50k? God.... can someone pls advise me a good receiver plus 5.1 speaker for 30k (specific...if possible)? Maraming salamat talaga sa inyong tulong.
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at 30k u can get a Marantz SR4300 for 15k + and Wharfedale 8.3 Main, Wharfedale Center and Whardale 8.1 for surrounds for 15k, then saka ka na mag ipon for the sub. Kung gusto mong mas less you can have an 8.1 for mains and rears then diamond center. then pagawa ka nang sub kay Mel(Nirvblkar) pag may natira
You can ask Marantz and Wharfs owners here about the performance of the two together.
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at 30k u can get a Marantz SR4300 for 15k + and Wharfedale 8.3 Main, Wharfedale Center and Whardale 8.1 for surrounds for 15k, then saka ka na mag ipon for the sub. Kung gusto mong mas less you can have an 8.1 for mains and rears then diamond center. then pagawa ka nang sub kay Mel(Nirvblkar) pag may natira
You can ask Marantz and Wharfs owners here about the performance of the two together.
or look for second hand items para maka mura ka..usually lahat naman ng taga pinoy maingat sa gamit...isa lang dahilan bakit nag didispose yang mga yan tulad ko...may SARS He!! HE!!
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jon9412833,
Consider the following set-up:
Receivers:
Marantz 4300 - 15.5K
Denon 1603 - 15K
Yamaha 530: 15.5K (Black 13.8K)
Speakers:
Set of Wharfedale Diamonds 8 series: (8.1, 8.3 & 8c) - 15.5K
or 2 sets of 8.1 & 8C - 13K
Set of custom-made speakers by our fellow member Nirvbrkr - Price ??, please ask him.
Pioneer S-H310V-QL/S-CR32-QL (Fronts, Center and Rears set) - 15K
Pioneer S-H510V/S-CR59 (Fronts, Center and Rears set) - Price ??
DVD Player:
Pioneer 266 - 6.7K
Nextbase Slim - 3.3K
Subwoofer:
Dynaquest 120 - 6.5K
US Audio - 5.5K
DTX - 6K
Daichi - 5K
Ganzklar - 6K
Cables:
Generic 14g speaker cables - Php 15/meter
Optical Cable/Digital Coaxial Cable - Php 300.00
Choose among the entry level HT equipments, then audition it, choose the one you prefer and choose the receiver/speakers that you like how it sound, you'll be the one who'll hear it.
The best thing is to audition and to trust your ears.
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jon9412833,
going for pre-owned gear, as dexterc suggested is one option. but if you're itching to have brand new equipment and can't spend much in one go, you can buy your gear in phases.
first, get a receiver and a pair of front speakers. the center, surrounds, and subwoofer can follow once you have the budget.
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jon9412833,
Consider the following set-up:
Receivers:
Marantz 4300 - 15.5K
Denon 1603 - 15K
Yamaha 530: 15.5K (Black 13.8K)
Speakers:
Set of Wharfedale Diamonds 8 series: (8.1, 8.3 & 8c) - 15.5K
or 2 sets of 8.1 & 8C - 13K
Set of custom-made speakers by our fellow member Nirvbrkr - Price ??, please ask him.
Pioneer S-H310V-QL/S-CR32-QL (Fronts, Center and Rears set) - 15K
Pioneer S-H510V/S-CR59 (Fronts, Center and Rears set) - Price ??
DVD Player:
Pioneer 266 - 6.7K
Nextbase Slim - 3.3K
Subwoofer:
Dynaquest 120 - 6.5K
US Audio - 5.5K
DTX - 6K
Daichi - 5K
Ganzklar - 6K
Cables:
Generic 14g speaker cables - Php 15/meter
Optical Cable/Digital Coaxial Cable - Php 300.00
Choose among the entry level HT equipments, then audition it, choose the one you prefer and choose the receiver/speakers that you like how it sound, you'll be the one who'll hear it.
The best thing is to audition and to trust your ears.
Thanks dude! I will consider this. Cheers!
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Another store to consider is Architectural Audio. Just check the general topics for details.
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jon9412833,
malamang isip ka na naman ng isip sa ht mo.
parehas ba ng feeling noong bibili ka ng digital camera.
pag nabuo mo na ang ht mo, panood ha!
salamat nga pala sa pinabili naming dvd ni tsonggo.
;D ;D ;D
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jon9412833,
malamang isip ka na naman ng isip sa ht mo.
parehas ba ng feeling noong bibili ka ng digital camera.
pag nabuo mo na ang ht mo, panood ha!
salamat nga pala sa pinabili naming dvd ni tsonggo.
;D ;D ;D
pards, sa sobrang hot ko, andami ko ng na-research (lahat ng specs nadownloadko na ata) at nedemo, napaconfuse/absent pako tuloy ngaun. I will make sure malupit ang HT setup ko, sa dami ba naman ng superb adviser dito sa Pinoy dvd eh di nakaiwas ako sa kapahamakan sa HTIB.
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Mga Sir, medyo nagikot ikot ako kanina, tanong ko lang kung ok itong setup na ito:
Pioneer 266=6.7k
Yamaha rxv-530 (black)=13.8k
Pioneer S-H310V-QL+S-CR32-QL=13.9k
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all=34.4k
OR
Pioneer 266=6.7k
Yamaha rxv-530 (black)=13.8k
Kenwood 706KHS 5 speaker=7.5k
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all=28k
OR
Pioneer 266=6.7k
Kenwood KRF-V6060D=16.9k
Kenwood 706KHS 5 speaker=7.5k
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all=31k
Subs syempre from NIRVKLR (AASWF03- P7k)
Mga bossing, konting advise uli po. Sarap pala mag mix and match ng HT, mas madali sa PC!
Advise lang mga gurus! Thanks uli.
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OK naman except for the speakers. Try Wharfedale or maybe Mission. Have you tried Denon, HK or Marantz Receivers?
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pards, sa sobrang hot ko, andami ko ng na-research (lahat ng specs nadownloadko na ata) at nedemo, napaconfuse/absent pako tuloy ngaun. I will make sure malupit ang HT setup ko, sa dami ba naman ng superb adviser dito sa Pinoy dvd eh di nakaiwas ako sa kapahamakan sa HTIB.
jon,
kaya pala wala ang laptop mo sa cubicle he! he! he!
agree ako kay levi try mo wharfedale or mission. na audition na namin ni tsonggo sa shangri-la yung mga speakers na to. malupit talaga yung mission!
kausapin mo rin si shine kasi balak nyang mag-upgrade from wharf to mission.
wharf diamonds 8 series (8.3, 8.1, 8c) -15K with DQ sub - 21K sa Ambassador.
mission m70 series (m71, m70, m7c1) - 21K+
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jon9412833,
As adviced by Levi, before you finally buy, try also the other receivers and speakers.
Wag lang price ang tanungin mo, mas maganda kung papakinggan mo....
Punta ka sa Achitectural Audio, try mo mag-audition dun ng mga audio gears. Hindi ka mapapahiya.
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As per advise ng mga Guru better buy the gear that is BEST sounding to you regardless of the price remember the gear you choose will give you long hours of enjoyment or long hours of hinagpis ;D ;D
happy hunting!!
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Its better to buy something you can really appreciate rather than a system which you will curse everytime you use.
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with a budget of around 30K was able to get the following:
Marantz 4300 @ P15300
Wharfedale Diamond series (8.3, 8.1, 8C) @ P14800
for an entry level system, happy na ako dito. you might want to consider this setup. ipon ka na lang ulit for a sub.
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nice gear redline!
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@DVDAdik
thanks. poor na ako ngayon actually. wala nang pambili ng DVD disks :D bought my set up on the recommendation of a lot of forumers. i have them to thank for (or blame, lol). hopefully in the future i can afford a better DVD player.
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with a budget of around 30K was able to get the following:
Marantz 4300 @ P15300
Wharfedale Diamond series (8.3, 8.1, 8C) @ P14800
for an entry level system, happy na ako dito. you might want to consider this setup. ipon ka na lang ulit for a sub.
pards saan maganda bumili ng warfedale? thanks!
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jon, sa spectra (park square 1) or ambassador sa greenhills
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pards saan maganda bumili ng warfedale? thanks!
Try mo sa Ambasador
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@DVDAdik
thanks. poor na ako ngayon actually. wala nang pambili ng DVD disks :D bought my set up on the recommendation of a lot of forumers. i have them to thank for (or blame, lol). hopefully in the future i can afford a better DVD player.
Congrats with your new toy. Hopefully you could post some pics. It might help other members planning to get the same set.
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levi
What speakers do you use in your tube set-up?
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B&W 603
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@levi
will post pix as soon as i can borrow a digicam.
@jon9412833
speakers were bought at Ambassador Shang. do not expect good service though. they are an appliance shop afterall. almost got into an argument with some idiot staff there. kung hindi lang mura sa kanila i would have bought someplace else. >:(
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Redline,
Congrats on your new setup
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jon, sa spectra (park square 1) or ambassador sa greenhills
ok kausap yung mga taga spectra, they give (i think) a reasonable price for wh-2,8.1,8.2,8.3 and dq-12. Maybe saka nila nako bibili ng whole HT setup ko.
I've been to Mr. Tuazon (hometheater)but they dont supply wharfedale, Mission ang recommendation sakin, mukhang off the budget ako sa mission eh. Ok syang kausap, I learned a lot from him.
@redline, sama pala ng experience mo sa ambasador. I hope someone feedback on them their behavior.
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Its better to buy something you can really appreciate rather than a system which you will curse everytime you use.
Hi Levi, Thats the best advise I get from anyone else, now I know what quality sound is. Thanks! All advise from people here are very professional. Appreciated!
I think I know now what fits my needs for HT.
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Thanks. I made some mistake before that is why Im sharing so other members wont have the same problem. Hope you enjoy your new setup.
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ako ang dami kong bad experience kay Sonny Tuazon ng Home Theater!!!! Everytime ako pumapasok sa store niya pag labas ko may bitbit nanaman akong speakers or HT system! hehehehe! JOKE LANG HA!!!
Galing nya mag salestalk! sales engineer pa naman ako pero tinalo nya ako sa pagsales talk! He will educate you first then make you realize the importance and manage your budget then after a lil while you will walk out with a smile in you face, an empty wallet and a pocketfull of knowledge in your head!
Im forever grateful i met someone like Sonny to help me setup my HT!
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Hi FaFa_RoLaNd, Welcome to Pinoydvd,
Thanks for sharing but I think you posted on the wrong thread. Here is the correct thread Your Thoughts on Philippine Audio Stores? (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1821). Thanks
levi
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pareho lang ba yung ambassador greenhills and ambassador shangrila? same din kaya ang price?
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pareho lang ba yung ambassador greenhills and ambassador shangrila? same din kaya ang price?
pareho lang kasi magkapatid ang may-ari. from experience, mas mahal sa Greenhills by a couple of hundred pesos. strange. found out when i tried to buy a TV from them before.
btw, ingat ka lang bec. sometimes they will try to sell you something that's really overpriced. last week nagpunta ako sa GH branch at nagtanong ng presyo ng US Audio 508 sub. P 7500 ang quote sa akin! mga hayop talaga e P 5000 - 5500 lang yun. Inulit ko pa yung tanong e. i know it can't be the price for the 512 either because Dai-Ichi sells that to dealers for around P 7900.
last month also, i went to the Shang branch to buy speakers. one of the salesmen there wanted to give me the display units despite the fact that they had new stock in full view!!! reserved daw yun. i told him and the cashier that i would not settle for the display units and threatened to take my business elsewhere. afterall, i was paying good money (pinag-ipunan ko talaga yun) and i expected brand new units. they eventually gave in but not without words and stares being exchanged. putik, yung salesman pa ang may gana magalit!!! >:( i was really so mad! i can tell you right now, their service is the worst i have experienced. as i said before, kung hindi lang mura sa kanila i would really buy someplace else. good luck na lang sa 'yo if you intend to buy there.
sorry mods, i know this belongs to a different thread but just wanted to warn potential buyers. thanks.
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Yo guys! Advice needed!
Has anyone ever tested using Mission speakers with Sakura receivers? Coz i was wondering maybe i could start with a simple receiver like Sakura and buy Mission floorstanders for my first HT investment. I already have a xenon-810D which has analog 5.1 rca outputs and will work with Sakura's analog 5.1 inputs.
I plan to eventually complete the whole setup with Mission speakers (surround and center) and replace the Sakura in a year or two with a better receiver. I am also considering the fact that receiver specs change every few months or so (5.1, 6.1, 7.1, THX, etc.) I figured that by the time I buy my next receiver, it might have 15.1 already with all the bells and whistles and just sell my Sakura.
Anyway, just need to know if Sakuras will be good enough for now with Missions and if my idea of buying my receiver a few years down the road is a good decision.
P.S.
Am not from manila or anywhere near luzon but we do have dealers here who sell mission, bose, jbl, wharfdale, b & w, etc. i really was considering nirvblakrs custom speakers (some say sound just as good as B&Ws) but going to manila just to audition them is a cost i cant justify for now.
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suggestions naman for a good a/v receiver:
marantz sr4300 / yamaha rvx530 / denon 1603 ?????
suggestion din sa speakers... sa ngayon ang nakikita ko lang na ok ay yung JBL sc 178..
budget ko 30 - 35K 8)
thanks
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is the 35k budget for both speakers and receiver? jbl scs-178 costs around 21k rxv-530 14k try to extend your budget, if it permits you. kung pansamantala lang yung setup mo, might as well pag-ipunan mo muna.
anyway, pag-ht yamaha daw for music denon, marantz, and the likes.
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is the 35k budget for both speakers and receiver? jbl scs-178 costs around 21k rxv-530 14k try to extend your budget, if it permits you. kung pansamantala lang yung setup mo, might as well pag-ipunan mo muna.
anyway, pag-ht yamaha daw for music denon, marantz, and the likes.
thanks kimpao;
yup, 30-35k for both the speakers and receiver. got a quote for jbl, 19.9k and rxv at 13.8k...
mixed mode kasi try ko... both ht and music....
so you suggest extend ko pa budget?? di pansamantala to.. what i buy now, cguro yun na yun... for the next.. ah.. 5 years?? hehe..
so jbl ba is not good?? marantz vs yamaha?? or you have a better avr in mind?
arigatou gozaimasu..
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Heard the jbl (don't know if the same model) together with hk2550 at arch audio...ganda din ng tunog..selling like hotcakes daw to sabi ni nico at less than 40t for the entire package...happy hunting!
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actually, what you think is good for you is best, this is the right frame of mind sa hobby na ito. kung ok sa iyo yung tunog then go for it.
try to also consider denons and marantz but yamahas' are good especially for ht. at first i was also considering the same equipment when i was about to start. kaso nung nakita ko yung ibang threads dito, i started to consider other equipment. in which case, halos nasa budget ko parin even though i have to shell out a few more pero sulit naman. i ended up in getting wharfdales for denon 1803 receivers (which totalled around 43k).
what i would really recommend is try to audition the others (speakers and avr) before deciding on what to get.
am not saying that jbls' are not at par but consider other equipment coz meron mga mas mura pero masmaganda.
personally, i would recommend marantz or denon for avr. sa speakers pwedeng paunti unti muna fronts and center (missions, if budget permits or wharfs)
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clark-kent, would just like to share my opinion. jbl is a good speaker, though they're not as popular here, compared to other brands.
as to if a certain brand of receiver is only good for ht (or music), it's subjective. listen to the different receiver-speaker combinations and let our ears decide. when auditioning, bring your favorite dvd and cd, if possible. when auditioning for ht, it would also help if you close your eyes and just listen, so as not to be distracted with what you see on the screen.
if budget is really tight, you can build your system in phases. get a receiver and front speakers first. the rest--center, surround, and then the sub can follow when additional budget comes in.
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galing!
thanks for the opinions.. cge, di ko muna mamadaliin ang pagbili... i was hoping sana to buy the yamaha 530 because of the bargain price... pero since i'm seeing other brands na bago (eg marantz) which are newer and di rin kalayuan ang prices.. it pays to wait din...
cge, will tour around the audio shops.. bent nga ko sa marantz.. mukhang ok pati power.. 80-90 rin...
thanks uli...
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galing!
thanks for the opinions.. cge, di ko muna mamadaliin ang pagbili... i was hoping sana to buy the yamaha 530 because of the bargain price... pero since i'm seeing other brands na bago (eg marantz) which are newer and di rin kalayuan ang prices.. it pays to wait din...
cge, will tour around the audio shops.. bent nga ko sa marantz.. mukhang ok pati power.. 80-90 rin...
thanks uli...
Kung bitin ka sa power niya you can always connect an amp to it para hindi bitin. marantz and mission are a good match (speaking from personal preference).
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Mga boss, is it possible to parallel to 8ohm/100watts rms speaker in a single channel? Given receivers are at 95 to 110 watts. Pls advise.
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Mga boss, is it possible to parallel to 8ohm/100watts rms speaker in a single channel? Given receivers are at 95 to 110 watts. Pls advise.
Possible but not advisable.
Given the two speakers with 8 ohms and 100 watts each.
To compute for total impedance
(8x8)/16 = 4
The total impedance is now 4 Ohms.
The total power will now be 200 watts, right?
Please check the rating impedance of your receiver if the 4 ohms is in the range of the supported impedance.
Be adviced that 4 ohms speaker is a hard-driven. Your receiver might clip driving at these rating.
Correct me please if I'm wrong.
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actually, what you think is good for you is best, this is the right frame of mind sa hobby na ito. kung ok sa iyo yung tunog then go for it.
try to also consider denons and marantz but yamahas' are good especially for ht. at first i was also considering the same equipment when i was about to start. kaso nung nakita ko yung ibang threads dito, i started to consider other equipment. in which case, halos nasa budget ko parin even though i have to shell out a few more pero sulit naman. i ended up in getting wharfdales for denon 1803 receivers (which totalled around 43k).
what i would really recommend is try to audition the others (speakers and avr) before deciding on what to get.
am not saying that jbls' are not at par but consider other equipment coz meron mga mas mura pero masmaganda.
personally, i would recommend marantz or denon for avr. sa speakers pwedeng paunti unti muna fronts and center (missions, if budget permits or wharfs)
i researched sa net nung mga frequently heard brands na narecommend ... wharfedale, marantz.. at mukhang ok nga! and also checked the corresponding local prices here (from philader) ... mukhang pasok nga sa budget.. so we have a marantz sr 4300 avr and the wharfedale 8.1, 8.3, 8c combo.. ( sorry kung sobrang tanga...bale dalawang 8.1 yan at 2 8.3 right???) Ok din ba 4 na 8.1 and 1 8c combo??
thanks a lot for your 0.5 cent pieces....
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btw philader, sang shops mo nakita yung prices mo?? thanks again..
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.........so we have a marantz sr 4300 avr and the wharfedale 8.1, 8.3, 8c combo.. ( sorry kung sobrang tanga...bale dalawang 8.1 yan at 2 8.3 right???) Ok din ba 4 na 8.1 and 1 8c combo??
Yes, pair kasi ang bentahan ng 8.1 and 8.3.
Okay lang din ang two-sets ng 8.1, lalo sa kung may stand or shelves ka na talagang paglalagyan.
They will be on the same performance (8.1 & 8.3) mas deeper nga lang ang bass ng 8.3 at mas malaki ang driver.
Sent you PM.
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got the PM.. thanks... will check it out mamaya.. sana wag masyado lumakas ang ulan.... malapit lang ko sa tordesillas.
ayos.. subs na lang.. heheh..
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to all denon1803 users? how would you rate your receiver on a scale of 1 to 10 for HT? Audio? thanks!
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I would say 8 or 9. My only comment is the lack of multiroom compared to the same model in the States but I can survive without it.
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to all denon1803 users? how would you rate your receiver on a scale of 1 to 10 for HT? Audio? thanks!
9 for both (HT and Audio).ok lang kahit walang multi-room (this is also what i've noticed, sir levi, when i was auditioning the others.
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9 for both (HT and Audio).ok lang kahit walang multi-room (this is also what i've noticed, sir levi, when i was auditioning the others.
how about the sr4300 of marantz? same scale???
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how about the sr4300 of marantz? same scale???
For me sa price 10
sa features 9
sa HT 8
sa Music 9
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If you rate the Denon 1803 (i assume its not "Made in Japan/US" model) a 9 in HT/Audio, would you rate the one that came in Japan/US a perfect 10?
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For the price and features. Yes
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how about the sr4300 of marantz? same scale???
I heard the 4300 and its a good receiver also but its a lower model compared to the 1803.
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hi guys. just need your feedback regarding this matter.
i recently transferred to a smaller room, kinda too small to even set-up my surround speakers. i can only set up my fronts, center and sub, aside from the tv/avr/dvd player. :(
now since my room is quite small, do i still need to set up my center channel? would it make any difference given my current situation? or should i just stick to a 2 speaker & sub set-up?
hope you guys can help. thanks.
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You could live without the center but if you have extra why not get a center. You might use it in the future and speakers usually last for years.
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got the PM.. thanks... will check it out mamaya.. sana wag masyado lumakas ang ulan.... malapit lang ko sa tordesillas.
ayos.. subs na lang.. heheh..
try getting the diamond 8 center instead of the 8c. mas ok yung tunog. sa subs ask si boss nirv (he's selling custom made speakers and from feedback by others in the community ang ganda raw ng subs na gawa niya).
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You could live without the center but if you have extra why not get a center. You might use it in the future and speakers usually last for years.
oh ok. but actually, i already have a center speaker. it used to be connected to my receiver together with the surround speakers. but because my room now is small and oddly-shaped, i had no choice but to connect only the fronts and sub. i can still connect the center on top of my tv, but without the surrounds, parang bitin na ang set-up ko. :(
so should i still connect my center speaker or just stick with fronts and sub set-up?
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try getting the diamond 8 center instead of the 8c. mas ok yung tunog. ...........
Ooops? Di ba isa lang ito?
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Ooops? Di ba isa lang ito?
oops oo nga ano?!... my mistake. sorry
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Ooops? Di ba isa lang ito?
was thinking of the wh-2 which is smaller than the 8c's (ang t***a ko, ahehehehe).
question, is it advisable to have the diamond 8s' tweaked? most of the threads i've been reading are having their 8.3s' tweaked but in my case am using 8.4s'.
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oh ok. but actually, i already have a center speaker. it used to be connected to my receiver together with the surround speakers. but because my room now is small and oddly-shaped, i had no choice but to connect only the fronts and sub. i can still connect the center on top of my tv, but without the surrounds, parang bitin na ang set-up ko. :(
so should i still connect my center speaker or just stick with fronts and sub set-up?
If you have a complete set, then use everything. Put the Center on top of your TV then mount your surround to the ceiling if possible.
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If you have a complete set, then use everything. Put the Center on top of your TV then mount your surround to the ceiling if possible.
thanks for the suggestions, sir levi. i'll see if it's possible to mount the surrounds to the ceiling. weird din kasi shape ng ceiling ko eh. :)
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Just make sure it has equal height. If not you can always adjust from your receiver the distance.
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try getting the diamond 8 center instead of the 8c. mas ok yung tunog. sa subs ask si boss nirv (he's selling custom made speakers and from feedback by others in the community ang ganda raw ng subs na gawa niya).
ba! ayos ah! custom made subs! boss nirv, how much is it???? ;D
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clark-kent
yung nabanggit ko pala na 8c and 8 are one and the same what i was referring too was the wh2 centers. na-buo mo na HT mo?
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clark-kent
yung nabanggit ko pala na 8c and 8 are one and the same what i was referring too was the wh2 centers. na-buo mo na HT mo?
onga, nakita ko dun sa brochure. nagdownload ako from their site..
di ko pa nabuo kc hinihintay ko pa yung quote from a friend na nasa Audio business.. kung di dumating yng quotes by mid-july, will get it from local shops here na lang. may budget na.. just waiting for the best value for money... 8)
isa lang ba ang ginagawang sub ni nirv?? may idea kayo ng pricing nya? thanks..
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clark-kent try to take a peek at this thread
CUSTOM SPEAKERS OF NIRVBKR, SIMPLY THE BEST!!!
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clark-kent try to take a peek at this thread
CUSTOM SPEAKERS OF NIRVBKR, SIMPLY THE BEST!!!
u forgot the link.... :o
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http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=3694
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http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=3694
ayos! thanks...
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clark-kent
yung nabanggit ko pala na 8c and 8 are one and the same what i was referring too was the wh2 centers. na-buo mo na HT mo?
saw the wh2 series at the ambassador ghils last nite.. its on sale with a combo of yamaha rxv530 and dyna sub.. for 31k..
what's the diff bet the wh2 and the diamond 8.1? pareho lang ba centers na ginagamit nila????
and when i got a quote using wh2 combo + 8.1, it turned out really cheaper than having 8.1 + 8.3 + 8c.. at mukhang maporma din....
btw, the wharfdale 8.1+8.3+8c at ambassador is now pegged at 14.5k!!! :o :o :o
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what's the diff bet the wh2 and the diamond 8.1? pareho lang ba centers na ginagamit nila????
and when i got a quote using wh2 combo + 8.1, it turned out really cheaper than having 8.1 + 8.3 + 8c.. at mukhang maporma din....
Wh2 is a package of surrounds and a center speaker
Wh2 is about 3.8K.
Diamond 8.1 is a full range bookshelf speaker:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~os-escuetaj/images/diamond_81.jpg)
Magkaiba ang Wh2 center sa diamond 8C center.
Pics of Wh2 center:
(http://www.hificorner.co.uk/assets/product_images/wh2.jpg)
(http://home.earthlink.net/~os-escuetaj/images/wh-2%20center.jpg)
Pics of diamond 8c center:
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQDZAscXxKiPFp!)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/dm8grp.jpg)
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Wh2 is a package of surrounds and a center speaker
Wh2 is about 3.8K.
Diamond 8.1 is a full range bookshelf speaker:
(http://home.earthlink.net/~os-escuetaj/images/diamond_81.jpg)
Magkaiba ang Wh2 center sa diamond 8C center.
Pics of Wh2 center:
(http://www.hificorner.co.uk/assets/product_images/wh2.jpg)
(http://home.earthlink.net/~os-escuetaj/images/wh-2%20center.jpg)
Pics of diamond 8c center:
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0UQDZAscXxKiPFp!)
(http://www.wharfedale.co.uk/dm8grp.jpg)
hi,where i could buy the 8.1 and center at the lowest price?..
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hi,where i could buy the 8.1 and center at the lowest price?..
Try mo sa ambassador, just expect also the lowest service quality.. hehehehe.
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Try mo sa ambassador, just expect also the lowest service quality.. hehehehe.
why? wala bang warranty?
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why? wala bang warranty?
meron, I mean the service is not that good. ;)
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ah..get it..eh halos nman lahat ng appliance store ganun >:( .. ;D
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pareho lang kasi magkapatid ang may-ari. from experience, mas mahal sa Greenhills by a couple of hundred pesos. strange. found out when i tried to buy a TV from them before.
btw, ingat ka lang bec. sometimes they will try to sell you something that's really overpriced. last week nagpunta ako sa GH branch at nagtanong ng presyo ng US Audio 508 sub. P 7500 ang quote sa akin! mga hayop talaga e P 5000 - 5500 lang yun. Inulit ko pa yung tanong e. i know it can't be the price for the 512 either because Dai-Ichi sells that to dealers for around P 7900.
last month also, i went to the Shang branch to buy speakers. one of the salesmen there wanted to give me the display units despite the fact that they had new stock in full view!!! reserved daw yun. i told him and the cashier that i would not settle for the display units and threatened to take my business elsewhere. afterall, i was paying good money (pinag-ipunan ko talaga yun) and i expected brand new units. they eventually gave in but not without words and stares being exchanged. putik, yung salesman pa ang may gana magalit!!! >:( i was really so mad! i can tell you right now, their service is the worst i have experienced. as i said before, kung hindi lang mura sa kanila i would really buy someplace else. good luck na lang sa 'yo if you intend to buy there.
sorry mods, i know this belongs to a different thread but just wanted to warn potential buyers. thanks.
yung unang quote nga ng isang parang boy dun sa ambassador shang sa akin, wharfedales and DQ12 sub, almost 30K. nag ask ako kung meron pa ibang options, sabi nya wala. then tumingin tingin pa ako tapos nakita ko yung yamaha speakers, sa owner na ako nag ask, 9K daw. when i asked if i can try the yamaha, meron another person na nag suggest nung WH2 + 8.1 + DQ12 for 14.5K. ito na ang binili ko. ok ba ang price?
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if you buy them separately, the sub is around 6 to 6.5T depende kung saan mo bibilhin. the WH2 is about 3.8T. ok lang siguro yung 4.5 to 4.7T na Diamond 8.1. it's actually a very good budget set-up though i prefer the Diamond 8 center para match sa fronts. bili ka na lang ng speaker stands. yung Lovans are about 2T. may mas mura pa yata dito. just check the posts.
did you buy a receiver from Ambassador? mura din naman sa kanila but your choices are limited. mostly Yamaha. mga 13.5T yata ang cost nung 430 at 530.
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yung unang quote nga ng isang parang boy dun sa ambassador shang sa akin, wharfedales and DQ12 sub, almost 30K. nag ask ako kung meron pa ibang options, sabi nya wala. then tumingin tingin pa ako tapos nakita ko yung yamaha speakers, sa owner na ako nag ask, 9K daw. when i asked if i can try the yamaha, meron another person na nag suggest nung WH2 + 8.1 + DQ12 for 14.5K. ito na ang binili ko. ok ba ang price?
That's a fair price.
Here are the prices from other shops.
DQ12 - 5.8K
WH2 - 3.8K
W 8.1 - 4.65K
Total is 14.25K
Hindi na man kalakihan yung 250.00
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yung unang quote nga ng isang parang boy dun sa ambassador shang sa akin, wharfedales and DQ12 sub, almost 30K. nag ask ako kung meron pa ibang options, sabi nya wala. then tumingin tingin pa ako tapos nakita ko yung yamaha speakers, sa owner na ako nag ask, 9K daw. when i asked if i can try the yamaha, meron another person na nag suggest nung WH2 + 8.1 + DQ12 for 14.5K. ito na ang binili ko. ok ba ang price?
Pare, ako yung nagsuggest setup na yan, nabili mo na diba? ok ba yung combinations nila? Do you use yamaha (what model) receivers? Advise naman dude, yan din kasi ang traget setup ko for my baby budget.
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saw the wh2 series at the ambassador ghils last nite.. its on sale with a combo of yamaha rxv530 and dyna sub.. for 31k..
and when i got a quote using wh2 combo + 8.1, it turned out really cheaper than having 8.1 + 8.3 + 8c.. at mukhang maporma din....
Clark-kent dude, the combo comes up with rxv530+wh2+dq12=31k ba? Pls confirm. Thanks.
How about by individual price?
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Clark-kent dude, the combo comes up with rxv530+wh2+dq12=31k ba? Pls confirm. Thanks.
How about by individual price?
Plus Diamond 8.1
Whats the color of 530? If it is black, here we go:
Here are the individual price:
Yamaha 530: 13.8K
Diamond 8.1: 4.65K
Dynaquest DQ12: 5.8K
WH2: 3.8
You do the math.
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Cheapest A/V Receiver
Brand New
TEAC AG D7900
DTS
DD
DPL
60 watts per channel
4 DSP
Features:
Analog Inputs 5.1 channels
24-bit/96 kHz D/A converters
DSP Modes: Hall, Theater, Stadium, Disco
Front A/V Connections: 1 x Headphones
Harmonic Distortion: .9%
Signal-to-Noise ratio: 95 dB
Main Speakers Power: 60 x 2 Watts
Frequency response: 20-40,000 Hz (+1/-3 dB)
Max Surround Pwr 20Hz - 40Hz: Main - 0.9% THD, 60W. Center - 0.9% THD, 60W. Rear - 0.9% THD, 60W.
Digital sampling frequency: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz
Rear Aud. Outputs Coaxial: 1
Rear Audio Inputs RCA: 5, Coaxial: 1, Optical: 1
Rear Vid. Outputs Composite: 2
Rear Video Inputs Composite: 3
Remote Control Universal
Tuner Presets 30 Channels
Its just Php 11,210.00 at 5th Avenue.
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Plus Diamond 8.1
Whats the color of 530? If it is black, here we go:
Here are the individual price:
Yamaha 530: 13.8K
Diamond 8.1: 4.65K
Dynaquest DQ12: 5.8K
WH2: 3.8
You do the math.
thanks philander... ayan sigma, nasagot na..
was able to do some auditioning ...
jbl sc178 + denon 1803,
wharfedale 8.1 + 8.3 + 8c combo and yamaha rxv 530,
wharfedale 8.1 + 8.3 + 8c combo and denon 1803
iba talaga ang yamaha.... at angat din a wharfedale... lakas ng combo na yun... tinest namin yung daredevil.. ang clear talaga... tapos isa pang test yung concert ni james taylor... dun, labas din ang clarity at quality...
isang test na lang.. wharfedale+marantz....
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Cheapest A/V Receiver
Brand New
TEAC AG D7900
DTS
DD
DPL
60 watts per channel
4 DSP
Features:
Analog Inputs 5.1 channels
24-bit/96 kHz D/A converters
DSP Modes: Hall, Theater, Stadium, Disco
Front A/V Connections: 1 x Headphones
Harmonic Distortion: .9%
Signal-to-Noise ratio: 95 dB
Main Speakers Power: 60 x 2 Watts
Frequency response: 20-40,000 Hz (+1/-3 dB)
Max Surround Pwr 20Hz - 40Hz: Main - 0.9% THD, 60W. Center - 0.9% THD, 60W. Rear - 0.9% THD, 60W.
Digital sampling frequency: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz
Rear Aud. Outputs Coaxial: 1
Rear Audio Inputs RCA: 5, Coaxial: 1, Optical: 1
Rear Vid. Outputs Composite: 2
Rear Video Inputs Composite: 3
Remote Control Universal
Tuner Presets 30 Channels
Its just Php 11,210.00 at 5th Avenue.
ok ba ang performance nito?
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ok ba ang performance nito?
I can't make an opinion, haven't heard the sound of TEAC receivers. What we can do is to audition...
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Cheapest A/V Receiver
Brand New
TEAC AG D7900
DTS
DD
DPL
60 watts per channel
4 DSP
Features:
Analog Inputs 5.1 channels
24-bit/96 kHz D/A converters
DSP Modes: Hall, Theater, Stadium, Disco
Front A/V Connections: 1 x Headphones
Harmonic Distortion: .9%
Signal-to-Noise ratio: 95 dB
Main Speakers Power: 60 x 2 Watts
Frequency response: 20-40,000 Hz (+1/-3 dB)
Max Surround Pwr 20Hz - 40Hz: Main - 0.9% THD, 60W. Center - 0.9% THD, 60W. Rear - 0.9% THD, 60W.
Digital sampling frequency: 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 96 kHz
Rear Aud. Outputs Coaxial: 1
Rear Audio Inputs RCA: 5, Coaxial: 1, Optical: 1
Rear Vid. Outputs Composite: 2
Rear Video Inputs Composite: 3
Remote Control Universal
Tuner Presets 30 Channels
Its just Php 11,210.00 at 5th Avenue.
Its the cheapest but is it really 60x2? How about the rating for 5 channels? IMO with the small price difference, I will go for the Yamaha 530 or even Sherwood.
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Its the cheapest but is it really 60x2? How about the rating for 5 channels? IMO with the small price difference, I will go for the Yamaha 530 or even Sherwood.
Levi,
It is 5 x 60watts/channel.
Features:
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Main Speakers Power: 60 x 2 Watts
Frequency response: 20-40,000 Hz (+1/-3 dB)
Max Surround Pwr 20Hz - 40Hz: Main - 0.9% THD, 60W. Center - 0.9% THD, 60W. Rear - 0.9% THD, 60W. [/size]
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Here is the pic:
(http://www.son-video.com/Rayons/HomeCinema/AmpliAV/Teac/AGD7900_DV3000S.jpg)
(http://www.son-video.com/Rayons/HomeCinema/AmpliAV/Teac/AGD7900_Dos.jpg)
Complete specs:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?DID=7&Product_ID=15610
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Just my comment, I maybe wrong. If the company is serious about its receiver at least they will use binding post instead of a spring type.
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Just my comment, I maybe wrong. If the company is serious about its receiver at least they will use binding post instead of a spring type.
That seems to be a common line among equipment reviewers on the net. They coud be serious, they just want to be cheap. Just not so sure if being serious and cheap can mix in this hobby. Maybe they can. Then again, maybe not.
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For me its a big factor. If the speaker or receiver uses spring type I get discouraged.
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ive a question to everyone who owns/bought a receiver (any brand). please state receiver brand & model.
1) what problems have you encountered with your receiver?
2) have you regrets on getting your receiver? why? what capabilities do other receivers have (same price level) that you wish your receiver had to make you say your receiver is good enough for you?
3) if you had a chance to replace your receiver with one in the market right now, which one would it be? (same price level with the one you own, or a little bit pricier).
4) on a scale of 1 to 10 rate your receiver for Music? HT?
5) if you had P 20T right now and you were to buy a new receiver which one would it be?
6) any other comments you might like others to know about your receiver.
i know that some might not like admitting that theyre having regrets getting the receiver they have now, but in sharing your experiences you might get others to avoid the pitfalls that you went through. i hope to get lots of replies to this, coz this will really help me (and others like me) decide which receiver to buy.
thanks in advance! by the way, am already leaning on getting a denon1803 paired with missions but 21K for a receiver is just a big investment that i dont want to rush into it... and if youve read my other posts here, youll know that im not from manila and cant audition from the stores there :( so am just gonna have to trust your ears :). was planning to have a friend in manila to buy the receiver for me.
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sir, i just recently bought a yammy rxv-530 two weeks ago. this was because my mentor RAS1842 pursued me to purchase a good receiver and i never doubted it. even do i user only home made speaker and some un-branded speaker for my set-up. as of now i'am planning to buy a subwoofer for my yammy and a good/worthy dvd player.........
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I owned a hk 3550 and nver regretted in buying it. From the rate of 1-10 on music, I would rate mine a 9 comparing to most the receivers I auditioned within the price range. In movies, it maybe a 9 also, although I still need to buy a sub for it. (opinion ko lang ito)
Im using mission m70 series (m72 front, m7c1 - center, m70 - surround).
I'm really happy since I upgraded from a kenwood system 505 then. No regrets....
The one your leaning on, denon 1803 and mission, ayos yan na combo... And the denon 1803, price has really gone down for as low as 21,700. Before nasa around 26k, bago ako makabili nung hk3550. I was surprised sa biglang baba nya. Probably because of a new model coming out.
If you have a chance though, try other speakers like b&w and monitor audio.
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greatness,
thanks for the advice! we were able to audition mission, wharfs and b&ws here with our local supplier on an onkyo 600 and i must say that b&ws do have the edge but the difference in sound for me doesnt justify the additional bucks i need to choke out of my wallet, thats choke with a capital C, hehe. thanks again! :)
anyone else wanna share their experiences with their receivers? bad experiences would be nice coz we always keep hearing the good stuff.
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ive a question to everyone who owns/bought a receiver (any brand). please state receiver brand & model.
1) what problems have you encountered with your receiver?
2) have you regrets on getting your receiver? why? what capabilities do other receivers have (same price level) that you wish your receiver had to make you say your receiver is good enough for you?
3) if you had a chance to replace your receiver with one in the market right now, which one would it be? (same price level with the one you own, or a little bit pricier).
4) on a scale of 1 to 10 rate your receiver for Music? HT?
5) if you had P 20T right now and you were to buy a new receiver which one would it be?
6) any other comments you might like others to know about your receiver.
I'll try to answer some of your question but not categorical.
I think the most common problem we all encountered is the pairing of the speakers, this is very crucial like make or break point.
Another thing is the impulsiveness.
Most of us here, do audition first. We gather information on the web/reviews/forums, in order to eliminate the "regret" thing.
Rating of Receiver is very hard, we gaves rates but this is based on our sole-discretion, what sounds good to me might sound bad to you. We have different preferences.
For 20K+, I'll choose the Harman Kardon 3550 or the Marantz 5300 anytime.
Compare the receiver's features side by side. Then audition them.
Me, I'll choose a Receiver based on its price, sound quality*, features, power, and performance in order.
Know also the DAC, user-interface in accesing menu/function/features/set-up and other capabilities like upgrades, maintennace, warranty, etc..
*-subjective
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philander,
i would love to audition them all but its just not possible for me. the HK 3550 does not seem to have enough power (60w x 5 ?) although a lot of people here are recommending it. ill be taking the marantz 5300 into consideration. thanks!
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hi, does anybody know where can i get a yamaha rxv-430 at its lowest price..?how much is the price range..?tnx :D
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hi, does anybody know where can i get a yamaha rxv-430 at its lowest price..?how much is the price range..?tnx :D
13.8K is the SRP. This is the base price on most shops.
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philander,
i would love to audition them all but its just not possible for me. the HK 3550 does not seem to have enough power (60w x 5 ?) although a lot of people here are recommending it. ill be taking the marantz 5300 into consideration. thanks!
I see.
Ooops, don't under-estimate the power rating of Harman, read along in the Harman thread and you'll see.
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cousin skeeter,
the hk3550 may say its 60Wx5 but you might be surprise with its performance. Malakas sya and its equivalent with the one I tried before, the kenwood receiver I had that has 130Wx6 rms. Mas malakas pa ata and at high volume, di sya nagdidistort.
all I'm saying, don't get tied up with the 60w of HK, high current yan kaya ganun lang rating nila but its more powerful than some of the receivers that are claiming in that price category.
And also consider the after sales and support (warranty). And of course the sound and performance.
Thanks
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13.8K is the SRP. This is the base price on most shops.
tnx for the info.. ;D
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philander,
i would love to audition them all but its just not possible for me. the HK 3550 does not seem to have enough power (60w x 5 ?) although a lot of people here are recommending it. ill be taking the marantz 5300 into consideration. thanks!
What are you looking for in a receiver, if I may ask?
If i may suggest, pls take some time to check the back of a receiver. Some claim 100 watts /ch into 6 channels. that's a total of 600 watts. but check to see the electric power consumption and you would have an idea if such a power rating is accurate. I know one receiver that has this power rating but the electric consumtion is only 280 watts. Where do you think the other 320 watts will come from? There's this law in physics that says you can't give more than what you take in. Just for comparison a Rotel power amp that has a rating of 65 watts RMS/chn for 6 channels has a power consumption of 700 watts. The disparity indicates good enough reserves for peak power handling without taxing the power supply. Its a high current amp that behaves like a constant voltage source. It can also drive low impedance speakers without any problem
I'm no HK user but i think the harman Kardon is similarly rated. (am canvassing for HK amps) It is designed to allow excellent peak power handling courtesy of its generous high current rcapability as well as its capability to handle 4 ohm loads. That's more than i can say for many receivers out there that behave like constant current sources. Little or no room for peak transients. Just my 2 cents.
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av_phile,
you have a point. am an EE grad myself and i know what you mean. i went through the hk thread and and now it seems im leaning toward getting a hk3550, *sigh*. it looks like im gonna be forced go to manila to audition them all coz at this rate i wont be able to REALLY make up my mind by only reading the opinions here.
will still appreciate any advice you guys can give me though coz i cant afford to succumb to SARS. my wallet might end up dead, not just anemic, hehehe.
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ive a question to everyone who owns/bought a receiver (any brand). please state receiver brand & model.
1) what problems have you encountered with your receiver?
2) have you regrets on getting your receiver? why? what capabilities do other receivers have (same price level) that you wish your receiver had to make you say your receiver is good enough for you?
3) if you had a chance to replace your receiver with one in the market right now, which one would it be? (same price level with the one you own, or a little bit pricier).
4) on a scale of 1 to 10 rate your receiver for Music? HT?
5) if you had P 20T right now and you were to buy a new receiver which one would it be?
6) any other comments you might like others to know about your receiver.
i know that some might not like admitting that theyre having regrets getting the receiver they have now, but in sharing your experiences you might get others to avoid the pitfalls that you went through. i hope to get lots of replies to this, coz this will really help me (and others like me) decide which receiver to buy.
thanks in advance! by the way, am already leaning on getting a denon1803 paired with missions but 21K for a receiver is just a big investment that i dont want to rush into it... and if youve read my other posts here, youll know that im not from manila and cant audition from the stores there :( so am just gonna have to trust your ears :). was planning to have a friend in manila to buy the receiver for me.
Im using Denon 1803 and Im very happy with it. No regrets that I chose this receiver. When I was looking for a new receiver I have some criteria that I want but it may not be applicable to you. I want a warm sounding receiver so my option would be HK5500, Marantz 6300, Denon 1803 or Onkyo 600. I need component input because Im planning to use 2 DVD players so Im forced to remove the Marantz from my list. With the 3 units left I feel that the Onkyo is the least in terms of sound and my friends unit died only after a year, so Im left with the HK and Denon. The HK is only 5 channel and is 10T more expensive and during that time it was not available. I need another amplifier to make it 7.1 and that would come out really expensive. The Denon is already 6.1, with component input, very good sound and matches well with my B&W so I decided to choose it. If ever Im going to replace my receiver, Im getting a Denon 3803 or HK 5550 but that would be in the 50T plus. The HK3550 is a lower model compared to the Denon 1803 so I scrapped it from my list. Another factor is that Denon has a good history in terms of quality. In music I would give it a rating of 8-9 but this is very subjective. I was with Firewired when he bought his Denon 1803 and Missions and when we tested it straight from the box, even Hyperaudio was impressed with the good sound. Regarding power, I think that all of the common brands in the market would match well with the common speaker brands. I dont think you will have any problem with this. Even my Yammie 496 (65W rms) can drive my B&W. You wont go wrong with the 1803 but Im not saying its the best but overall its a very good receiver.
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levi,
thanks for the input. actually the hk3550 being 5.1 is what bothers me also. if could afford the hk5550 id probably choose it hands down,with the reviews all saying that its sound quality is very very good. but its way to high for my budget. the marantz 5300 being 6.1 does appeal to me and since ill be connecting it to only one dvd player (xenon 810D), i think one component input/output will do. i consider myself a music lover and the sound quality will definitely be a very big factor. so the toss up will probably be between the marantz5300 and the denon1803 (and the yamaha 630, 730?). if the quality of the sound was to be the deciding factor, which one would you guys choose? im already decided on paring them with mission speakers, initially getting the m73i floorstanders and moving on from there.
by the way, why werent the yammies included in your list? i think theyre the most popular here from a poll they did in one of the threads.
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tama si levi, maganda yung 1803. Kaya ko lang binenta yung sa akin e kailangan ko yung multiroom function.
kung kailangan mo ng preouts, marantz kunin mo.
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levi,
thanks for the input. actually the hk3550 being 5.1 is what bothers me also. if could afford the hk5550 id probably choose it hands down,with the reviews all saying that its sound quality is very very good. but its way to high for my budget. the marantz 5300 being 6.1 does appeal to me and since ill be connecting it to only one dvd player (xenon 810D), i think one component input/output will do. i consider myself a music lover and the sound quality will definitely be a very big factor. so the toss up will probably be between the marantz5300 and the denon1803 (and the yamaha 630, 730?). if the quality of the sound was to be the deciding factor, which one would you guys choose? im already decided on paring them with mission speakers, initially getting the m73i floorstanders and moving on from there.
by the way, why werent the yammies included in your list? i think theyre the most popular here from a poll they did in one of the threads.
IMO if you are going to get a receiver, you might as well get a 6.1/7.1 so if more and more titles comes out with this feature you dont have to upgrade again. You could factor in the Marantz 5300 if you only have a single DVD. Just connect it directly to your TV because the Marantz does not have component input. I dont like the sound of the Yamaha for music and with the same price range your option would be the 630. Its 6th channel is only DTS es compatible . Get a DD-EX, DTS-ES Matrix and DTS-ES Discrete capable receiver. Sayang naman kung kapos pa and you are just spending the same amount. If you could wait for the 40 series maybe you could factor in Yamaha, but I think it would be more expensive. I prefer the sound of Denon over the Marantz, but this is only my opinion based from the comparison I did at Hyperaudio's place, with both receiver driving Missions but the difference is very minimal. Another factor is that Im not really sure if there is a dealer of Marantz here that could officially service it. What I know is that the Marantz here was only imported but I can be wrong. Check it out first, it might be a problem if it conks out.
IMO, comparing same price range of receivers from common famous brands ( Denon, HK, Marantz, Yamaha, Onkyo, etc ) will result in almost the same sound. Personal preferences will play a big role in choosing. Another factor would be features that would suit you. Then the next would be price, service, history, etc etc. Whatever you choose would be OK as long as you know what you want. You would never like a receiver if it does not suit your needs and wants even if it is the best receiver.
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levi,
marantz has no qualified service center here in the philippines? now that really narrows my choice back to the denon 1803. seems ive come full circle. tsk tsk tsk.
will try to ask in the marantz thread if they do have a service center here. thanks!
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I read on the internet that Marantz and Denon has merged into the D&M Holdings company as of middle last year.
Just not sure if the local Denon support applies to Marantz as well. Checking the Marantz dealer site http://www.marantz.com/p_dealers.cfm?continent=AM (http://www.marantz.com/p_dealers.cfm?continent=AM) does not show the Philippines as one of their countries authorized for distribution.
From
http://www.marantz.com/hifi/america/ (http://www.marantz.com/hifi/america/)
Any Marantz products that have been purchased from an UNAUTHORIZED dealer (Including, but not limited to - traditional retailer, mail order outlet, or online dealer) OR if the original factory serial number has been removed, defaced or replaced in any way WILL NOT be honored or serviced under the existing Marantz warranty policy. Marantz is aware of numerous instances in which such serial number tampering has occurred. Serial numbers may be altered by unauthorized dealers and/or their suppliers in an attempt to prevent manufacturers from tracing the supplier source. Marantz sells premium products only through authorized retail and online channels to insure that Marantz customers obtain quality pre-sale and after-sale support and service. PROTECT YOUR WARRANTY, buy from an authorized Marantz dealer or authorized on-line dealer, (if your are not sure that a dealer is authorized, please check the Dealer Locator section on our website or call us). After you have purchased any Marantz product, check the unit and its packaging to determine whether the factory serial number may have been altered. If you suspect your Marantz product has an altered serial number call Marantz America at (630)741-0300.
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Hyperaudio is selling a Marantz 5300 and a second hand Onkyo 600
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hi guys,meron na ba ditong yamaha rxv440 or onkyo tx-sr501?..new enrtry level models..but they are 6.1 na..
(http://www.onkyousa.com/images/products/receivers/large/txsr501.jpg)
(http://www.yamaha.com/images/rxv440.gif)
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cousin skeeter,
In getting a receiver,
I also suggest that you consider the room conditions. Check if it is feasible in going for 7.1 set-up. If not consider also when/if you transfer your future ht set-up to another room/house. (malay mo, bigla lumipat ka ng bahay) ;D
Importante yan IMO kasi.
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I agree with greatness, check out also the "going 6.1/7.1 thread" for additional insights on this.
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hi guys,meron na ba ditong yamaha rxv440 or onkyo tx-sr501?..new enrtry level models..but they are 6.1 na..
(http://www.onkyousa.com/images/products/receivers/large/txsr501.jpg)
(http://www.yamaha.com/images/rxv440.gif)
As far as sonics are concerned, I personally find Onkyos the better brand compared with Yamahas and Pioneers. Coming from a former Integra and current Onkyo user, just consider that a biased assessment.
Lately, though, I would rather get an HK or one with better looking aesthetics. After sound quality, I go for looks. Convinience features, not so much, as i think most receivers out there have them.
reason: Those new models of Onkyo seem to have gone down the path of cost cutting. What turns me off are those rubber footings that look like they came from a microwave oven or a gas stove. They may arguably improve the sound, but i'd rather look elsewhere. Just my personal quirk.
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Future-proofing your investment on a receiver today can be a frustrating exercise. Unless you go mid to hi-end. Most manufacturers are bringing their prices so low by stripping their entry levels with some of their previous features that it virtually guarantees them to be throw-aways in the near term.
(1) Many do not sport pre-outs and main-ins connected by jumpers. This feature allows the use of more powerful external amps or preamps with better features to be used in any future upgrade. Wanting a more powerful set-up? First throw away that old receiver. Wanting beter DD/DTS/DPL2 processing or newer formats? First get rid of that receiver.
(2) Many have very minimal displays that require the use of a TV for OSD (on-screen displays) with branching menus for all its settings, without which, you are virtually blind controlling their parameters, if at all. Well, that's quite an opportunity for cost reduction since the HT receiver is supposed to have a TV screen somewhere very near. (not really an investment issue, just make sure your TV is on everytime you turn on the receiver.)
(3) Many use inexpensive integrated logic control chips for most of its controls requiring the use of infrared remotes without which you can hardly control the receiver. Not really bad, just don't break or lose the remote.
(4) Many sport spring-type speaker terminals instead of the more robust but expensive 5-way banana-types. Also not bad, just don't expect to use 10-12 gauge speaker wires.
(5) Many use plain stainless steel RCA contacts instead of gold-plated ones, ensuring the next time you change plugs or connect new ones that you'd get resistance at the contact points as they grow older. But i think that's OK since the manufacturer doesn't expect the user to remain with that receiver for more than a year.
There are others like using more plastics on the front panel facade. (Or this neat cost-cutting feature using metal panels half-way but with fold-out plastic door hiding more controls in plastic.) All these can drastically reduce the manufacturing and eventual selling cost. But at the expense of longevity.
So if you think getting a 6.1/7.1 nicely future-proofs your investment, think again. In addition to the above, there are developments within the next 24 months, like a DVI interface port (the video digital connection counterpart of audio's digital/optical connection that will render your beloved analog RGB/YUV component video garbage by comparison) A firewire port considered as the most logical high bit connection for SACD/DVDA digital link for bass management and time alignment and a more powerful decoder/processor chip like the much anticipated 2.4ghz decoder chip to handle the complex mathematical algorithim demanded by SACD/DVDA bass managment (current receiver chips cannot perform the job). (This 2.4 ghz receiver chip is expected to handle up to 16 high definition channels.) A separate audio channel connection for the "height" channels in multi-channel audio or a processor feature to convert the 6th and 7th channels into "height" channels. And last but not the least, Sony may be about to unveil its proprietary high definition SDDS in full 8-channel glory by next year with new and reissued DVDs from Columbia/TriStar on SDDS for home theater (that format is still exclusive to cinemas). I heard its a DTS-ES killer.
But don't fret. These are all let-downs to those planning to buy a receiver. Like waiting to buy a PC with the most bang, until you end up just waiting and never buying. Separates can address that. (But this thread is about receivers and separates cost megabucks.)
So go ahead and buy whatever receiver suits yours fancy. Whether 5.1 or N.1, They're all guranteed not to last long anyway. (Unlike a plain old stereo receiver. Makes me miss those heavy Luxmans.)
Actually, that's one of those things that make this hobby so exciting. You're always on the lookout for upgrades. Obsolescence is always an excellent excuse to upgrade. Money besides. I probably wouldn't mind having a new receiver every year. Buying entry level receivers everytime is synonymous to perpetual upgrades.
But hey, since upgrades are something we have to live with in our hobby, why bother with expensive stuff that requires upgrade nonetheless? No argument there. If you want to remain in a merry-go-round circles of one entry or average level after another, go ahead. But you're never really getting beyond and above that in terms of sound and picture quality.
But that's just me talking.
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The bottom line here is to buy the best that your budget could buy. If your happy with your equipment, you wont upgrade easily but if you are not, the SARS will always be there.
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meron na kaya dito ng rxv-440 or txsr-501? ::)
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johndoe wala pa ata..
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Mga Boss, what's the major difference between yamaha 530 black vs gold? I've heared that black is at 110 volts input only. Pls confirm. Many thanks to all!!!!
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i think not..because yamahas have voltage selectors.. ;)
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Mga Boss, what's the major difference between yamaha 530 black vs gold? I've heared that black is at 110 volts input only. Pls confirm. Many thanks to all!!!!
Color only.
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The Gold is usually more expensive by 1T
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came from greenhills, yamaha rxv530 gold is at 17,500 near ambassador. pass by nintendo, yup they are selling chinese ;D 5.1 receivers from 2500 to 3250.
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Take a peek at some latest speakers & other audio stuff.
Looks like the Red Army is marching strong.
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_10_2/show-report-he-2003.html
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ht gurus. need your opinions on an HT setup. i am looking for a receiver that is good for both music and ht.. probably 65% music/35% movies...as of the moment i bought second hand valdus center and 100 from fellow members due to a tight budget. question is... i am considering hk avr2550, denon 1603, marantz 4300, onkyo tx-sr500. could u suggest me an avr from the list that would make my ears and wallet happy, and would not result to sleepless nights thinking whatifs scenarios.. ;D thanks
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ht gurus. need your opinions on an HT setup. i am looking for a receiver that is good for both music and ht.. probably 65% music/35% movies...as of the moment i bought second hand valdus center and 100 from fellow members due to a tight budget. question is... i am considering hk avr2550, denon 1603, marantz 4300, onkyo tx-sr500. could u suggest me an avr from the list that would make my ears and wallet happy, and would not result to sleepless nights thinking whatifs scenarios.. ;D thanks
If u are getting an HK i suggest that u get the 3550 and not the 2550, konti lang difference
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If u are getting an HK i suggest that u get the 3550 and not the 2550, konti lang difference
thanks sir.. sent you a pm.. :)
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hi everyone. i need suggestions for a receiver and speakers. my budget is around 100t for both receiver and speakers. what will fit my budget and where is the best place to buy them? thanks!
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100k budget can go for mid to high end setup.
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hi everyone. i need suggestions for a receiver and speakers. my budget is around 100t for both receiver and speakers. what will fit my budget and where is the best place to buy them? thanks!
Now that's a really nice round budget to play with. ;D If I had one to start over, i'd get on impulse a behemoth Rotel or Harman/Kardon flagship AV receiver and B&W600 series floorstanders and surrounds. (Kaya na sigyro sa 100T yun) Cables excluded.
But i'd really explore my options first. Try visiting the Makati Park Square's Upscale Audio, Sound Dimension, Spectra, 5thAvenue, Sound & Vison. Its a nice one stop place to begin with. Then go to SM megamall. Also Check out the specialty shops listed in the General Forum of this community. The internet is likewise one hell of a shopping mall to check the reviews and brands available.
My suggestion, after visiiting and initial listening to AV showrooms, don't buy right away. Get the brand and model number of those you like and do a google search on the internet for online reviews and comparative prices and/or post the models here for member comments. Then make a shortlist of 2 -3 brands and do a second round of closer auditoning of these. Set aside a good 1-2 weeks of evaluation before taking that plunge. Let your listening decide. Then get it.
Just my 2 cents.
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for that budget i would go for onkyo or h/k setup..regarding the speakers..marami kang choices.. :D
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Hello!
I am new here... After reading 28 pages of this thread alone, I can tell that this site is what i'm really looking for...
I have an HT setup that is already 5 yrs old. Listed below, I know that my choice was caused by the appearance of the speakers and uncle's influence.
Receiver - Onkyo TX-8511 (not sure)
Speaker (F) - Bose Acoustimass 5
Center - Bose VCS 10
Rear - Bose 151
As you can see, my speakers are all Bose but now I know that this is some cheapo setup in terms of Sound quality.
I was awed by av_phile 's comments on buying a receiver and I know that my setup is passe that I need to upgrade.
Any suggestions from you guys would really help as I am starting to revive my long lost inclination to good home viewing experience (laser disc's time pa)
BTW, cool site!!! Keep it up!!!! :)
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hi everyone. i need suggestions for a receiver and speakers. my budget is around 100t for both receiver and speakers. what will fit my budget and where is the best place to buy them? thanks!
If I have your budget, I would invest in good speakers like the B&W 600 series and for the Receiver I will go for Denon 3803 or HK 5500. For the subwoofer, I will choose Velodyne. Speakers usually last for a long time so might as well put the bulk of your budget there. For the receiver, get something that can make you speaker sing but dont over invest because receivers gets outdated fast. Get a good subwoofer to complement your speakers. Try to visit Hyperaudio, The Hometheater or Architectural Audio for Demo. Just my 1 cent advise.
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Hello!
I am new here... After reading 28 pages of this thread alone, I can tell that this site is what i'm really looking for...
I have an HT setup that is already 5 yrs old. Listed below, I know that my choice was caused by the appearance of the speakers and uncle's influence.
Receiver - Onkyo TX-8511 (not sure)
Speaker (F) - Bose Acoustimass 5
Center - Bose VCS 10
Rear - Bose 151
As you can see, my speakers are all Bose but now I know that this is some cheapo setup in terms of Sound quality.
I was awed by av_phile 's comments on buying a receiver and I know that my setup is passe that I need to upgrade.
Any suggestions from you guys would really help as I am starting to revive my long lost inclination to good home viewing experience (laser disc's time pa)
BTW, cool site!!! Keep it up!!!! :)
Please give us more details. You can start with
Budget- Is it fix or upgradable
Buying scheme- one time or phase by phase
Old system - Any plans mixing the old and the new
Purpose - Music or movies
Type of movies - action, romance, drama
Type of music - classical, disco, house, standard, jazz
etc etc etc
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ht gurus. need your opinions on an HT setup. i am looking for a receiver that is good for both music and ht.. probably 65% music/35% movies...as of the moment i bought second hand valdus center and 100 from fellow members due to a tight budget. question is... i am considering hk avr2550, denon 1603, marantz 4300, onkyo tx-sr500. could u suggest me an avr from the list that would make my ears and wallet happy, and would not result to sleepless nights thinking whatifs scenarios.. ;D thanks
ht gurus.. thanks again to those who shared their knowledge in suggesting the path that i should take in buying an avr.. :) advise for newbies like me to not be impulsive in buying. not be ashamed of auditioning all avr brands possible to get the best value out our hard-earned money.
and after hearing hk avr2550, connected to a diamond 8.1 using 2 stereo channel. i am very overwhelmed by the music and that i also thought that norah jones is singing next to me.. ;D in movies, we did not get its full potential since i forgot to bring a dvd with me, luckily my cousin has a pirated die hard dvd with me. and its good.
would be getting the hk avr after office hours today. so to all newbies like me who is starting with this hobby i highly suggest you audition harman kardon avr.. ;D
btw. i am not paid to promote this avr, just want to share my experiences.. ::)
thanks again and more power pinoydvd..
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ht gurus.. thanks again to those who shared their knowledge in suggesting the path that i should take in buying an avr.. :) advise for newbies like me to not be impulsive in buying. not be ashamed of auditioning all avr brands possible to get the best value out our hard-earned money.
and after hearing hk avr2550, connected to a diamond 8.1 using 2 stereo channel. i am very overwhelmed by the music and that i also thought that norah jones is singing next to me.. ;D in movies, we did not get its full potential since i forgot to bring a dvd with me, luckily my cousin has a pirated die hard dvd with me. and its good.
would be getting the hk avr after office hours today. so to all newbies like me who is starting with this hobby i highly suggest you audition harman kardon avr.. ;D
btw. i am not paid to promote this avr, just want to share my experiences.. ::)
thanks again and more power pinoydvd..
Nice choice dude, di ka magsisisi sa sounding nang HK pare, like me i really love the sounding of HK, Imusing mine for about 3 months now, no problem at paganda nang paganda ang tunog with my Diamonds 8.3
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Nice choice dude, di ka magsisisi sa sounding nang HK pare, like me i really love the sounding of HK, Imusing mine for about 3 months now, no problem at paganda nang paganda ang tunog with my Diamonds 8.3
thanks pre.. for showing me the light.. kudos to sirs j_albert22..hans adrienne. julsp. philander.. and to all who answered my newbie query.. also to sir mdsaint for letting me audition his onkyo avr.. may the force of HK be with you all... :)
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welcome to the HK world... i'm sure you'll not regret choosing this avr, enjoy.... :)
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ht gurus.. thanks again to those who shared their knowledge in suggesting the path that i should take in buying an avr.. :) advise for newbies like me to not be impulsive in buying. not be ashamed of auditioning all avr brands possible to get the best value out our hard-earned money.
and after hearing hk avr2550, connected to a diamond 8.1 using 2 stereo channel. i am very overwhelmed by the music and that i also thought that norah jones is singing next to me.. ;D in movies, we did not get its full potential since i forgot to bring a dvd with me, luckily my cousin has a pirated die hard dvd with me. and its good.
would be getting the hk avr after office hours today. so to all newbies like me who is starting with this hobby i highly suggest you audition harman kardon avr.. ;D
btw. i am not paid to promote this avr, just want to share my experiences.. ::)
thanks again and more power pinoydvd..
You will be happy with HK but as Courage suggested, why not get the 3550?
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hi guys,where can i get a pair of diamond 8.1 at less than 4k? ;)
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Try MdSaint he is selling his Wharfs.
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hi guys,where can i get a pair of diamond 8.1 at less than 4k? ;)
lowest price for a bnew 8.1 is Php4,650. try the assorted buy en sell. try to look for the second hand unit. it will cost less than 4k 8)
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You will be happy with HK but as Courage suggested, why not get the 3550?
no more stock for the 3550.. :( the only store that i saw have the stocks is the soundroom at podium.. but it costs 23,900 :o and the last unit that architectural audio has is reserved.. hopefully he/she would back-out.. ;D
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hi guys!
i'm just a newbie here but i have this setup which i bought last week. i want to here from you guys if i made a good
choice. thanks!
klipsch quintet II w/ ksw 10
onkyo sr501
and i'm planning to buy another center speaker for the rear.
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hi guys!
i'm just a newbie here but i have this setup which i bought last week. i want to here from you guys if i made a good
choice. thanks!
klipsch quintet II w/ ksw 10
onkyo sr501
and i'm planning to buy another center speaker for the rear.
Nice setup, saan ka nakabili ng Onkyo Sr 501?
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ya..san ka nakabili ng tx sr-501? ;)
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actually i'm not in the Philippines, i'm in Vancouver.
i got the sr501 for cdn 499 +tax
thanks
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since u have an all klipsch setup...go for a klipsch narin..i would recommend the SC-1 of thier synergy series.. 8)
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Levi,
Thanks for the reply!!!
Could you give me an estimated price and brand for a decent setup (receiver, front, center,surround,subs) as I will try to tighten my belt to give way for my budget. At least I can target the price per item that I need to buy na.
I could buy in phases pero kung kakayanin ko isabay (eg. receiver and front) eh di mas ok.
I am more into movies na than music. I have a long list of collections from New Wave to Trash metal so I can say na walang specific.
Would it be ok to go for a one brand speakers like Paradigm or MS, or it would be better to get different brands for speakers??
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thanks johndoe, that's what i'm looking for right now.
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Your choices for receivers would be Denon, HK, Onkyo, Marantz, NAD or Yamaha. These are all good brands but it will depend on how much you are willing to spend and the features that you need. An entry level setup would be from 14T to 20T and 21T to 35T for mid end.
For speakers, it is highly recommended that you use only a single brand. Matching speakers is very important. You dont want the sound changing as it pan from front to rear or left to right. You have to audition to know what you want. What might be good for me might not be good for you. You can start with B&W, Mission, Paradigm, Infinity, Kef, Klipsch, Wharfedale etc. Price range for speakers vary a lot so its hard to recommend. Just check out existing thread to compare the prices. I guess you really have to be specific on how much you plan to spend. This will narrow down your choices and members can give you a better recommendations.
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Hi Levi and Ht gurus!
Finally after months of itching for a HT and a lot of advise and auditioning, I finally bought my sweat and blood HT setup. I suppose to buy a sony/pioneer HTIB but then again, a friend-co-engr have offered me insights about this web site (thanks tsonngo ang torque dudes), and I learned a lot of do's and dont's from you guys. With a given budget, I was able to squeeze all I need with what I only got. Now I have a Yamaha 430 GOLD, wharfedale speakers and DQ12 plus a generic dvd player. Im happy with it so far, syempre pinaghirapan din nating ipunin yun for 2months.
Thanks all for the sound advise, nagbago ang plano ko sa sa HTIB ng pioneer and sony all because of you guys............hehehe atleast Im confident with what I got. Mukhang madami pa atang gastos ang dadating. Hirap talaga maging hobby ito ...........pero masaya.
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congrats! ;D medyo matatagalan pa yan bago ka magka S.A.R.S! ;D
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Hi Levi and Ht gurus!
Finally after months of itching for a HT and a lot of advise and auditioning, I finally bought my sweat and blood HT setup. I suppose to buy a sony/pioneer HTIB but then again, a friend-co-engr have offered me insights about this web site (thanks tsonngo ang torque dudes), and I learned a lot of do's and dont's from you guys. With a given budget, I was able to squeeze all I need with what I only got. Now I have a Yamaha 430 GOLD, wharfedale speakers and DQ12 plus a generic dvd player. Im happy with it so far, syempre pinaghirapan din nating ipunin yun for 2months.
Thanks all for the sound advise, nagbago ang plano ko sa sa HTIB ng pioneer and sony all because of you guys............hehehe atleast Im confident with what I got. Mukhang madami pa atang gastos ang dadating. Hirap talaga maging hobby ito ...........pero masaya.
Congrats sigma-delta, we are also happy that we were able to help. Enjoy your new setup.
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FOR YAMAHA USERS:
Is Dolby Digutal Es and DTS-ES dvd depent? I observe that only MATRIX is displayed on the LCD whenever I loaded a DD/DTS capable dvd.
Madali bang maginit ang rxv430/530 receivers?
Need ur inputs. Thanks again!
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Yes, the DD EX and DTS-ES are DVD (source) dependent.
Though, you can matrix the DD and DTS to make it 6.1 matrix sound using a compatible receiver.
By the way, Yamaha 430 & 530 are not DTS-ES and DD-EX compatible.
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dvd dependent and reciever dependent ang DD-EX at DTS-ES.
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Yes, the DD EX and DTS-ES are DVD (source) dependent.
Though, you can matrix the DD and DTS to make it 6.1 matrix sound using a compatible receiver.
By the way, Yamaha 430 & 530 are not DTS-ES and DD-EX compatible.
Philander, the specs indicates that the unit has a DD EX and DTS ES Matrix 6.1. I also observe the lcd has an imprints of DDEX and DTS ES and Matrix discrete. I would like to test this features, is there any titles I can have them enabled?
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i think..it will only light up when the reciever senses that the dvd has a dts s track or dd-ex..pero i think matrixed sound lang ung sa yamaha 430 and 530..
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Philander, the specs indicates that the unit has a DD EX and DTS ES Matrix 6.1. I also observe the lcd has an imprints of DDEX and DTS ES and Matrix discrete. I would like to test this features, is there any titles I can have them enabled?
check this out
Dvds with DTS ES & Dolby Digital EX (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=645)
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check this out
Dvds with DTS ES & Dolby Digital EX (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=645)
As usual, thanks levi and all.
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Can't make a choice between Yamaha RXV740 or RXV1300, or pioneer vsx-d912k. seems pioneer have a higher rating than yamaha, at par with HR avr325 and onkyo. is this so?
http://reviews.cnet.com/4502-3423_7-0.html?tag=srch&qt=Receivers&orderby=-7eRating
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has anyone tried Wharfedale's Moviestar 60? it's a compact 5.1 speaker package ( w/ an 8" or 10" powered subw). haven't tried it but looks ok coz the speaker enclosure is wood (ash black finish compared) compared w/ other HTIBs w/ plastic casing making them sound like banging tin cans. this one is @ P9.9K at S&S Pksqre Mkt (could be cheaper somewhere) plus a decent budget receiver for @ P12K-P15K, the HT system could be @ P25K
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has anyone tried Wharfedale's Moviestar 60? it's a compact 5.1 speaker package ( w/ an 8" or 10" powered subw). haven't tried it but looks ok coz the speaker enclosure is wood (ash black finish compared) compared w/ other HTIBs w/ plastic casing making them sound like banging tin cans. this one is @ P9.9K at S&S Pksqre Mkt (could be cheaper somewhere) plus a decent budget receiver for @ P12K-P15K, the HT system could be @ P25K
Dude I have auditioned it too. Its sounds good for entry level 5.1 speaker. Pwede yan.
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Can't make a choice between Yamaha RXV740 or RXV1300, or pioneer vsx-d912k. seems pioneer have a higher rating than yamaha, at par with HR avr325 and onkyo. is this so?
http://reviews.cnet.com/4502-3423_7-0.html?tag=srch&qt=Receivers&orderby=-7eRating
is this available in pinas?? look like a good candidate for a affordable processor *crosses fingers*
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have anyone tried or auditioned a sunfire reciever..? ;)
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guys, there is anther ht package offered by avesco group (kenwood, terapin group) teac av receiver with speakers and powered subwoofer. saw this at sm appliance at annex and 5th ave at car park both at sm city yesterday. price is 22k. problem is the receiver is not dpl2. check it out. saw te teac speaker package in the us online shopping and it cost around $189.
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Mga Bossing,
I'll be getting this goodies anytime soon...
Wharfedale
8.1 (Front)
WH-2 (Center & Surround)
DQ-12 (Sub)
I'm thinking of what to get with these receivers to be paired with my speakers.
Yamaha rx-v430 (13.8k)
HK 2550 (17k)
Denon 1603 (15.9k)
Marantz sr4300 (15.5k)
75% Movies and 25% Music
Your suggestion would be very much appreciated. Thanks! :)
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presars,
Base price, for your guidance:
Yamaha 430 - 12K +
Denon 1603 - 15K
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go for marantz 4300 since it has DTS-es,DD-ex na.and ur more of a watcher than a listener.. ;D
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Philander,
Where could i get a 1603 for 15k flat?
Everyone,
keep em coming... :)
Actually, here's my consideration...
1.) Yammy 430 - cheapest plus read it pairs good with wharfs. Very good for movies.
2.) HK 2550 - BEST paired with wharfes
3.) Denon 1603 - Good overall for movies and music
4.) Marantz sr4300 - Best price per feature. 6.1 channel
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presars,
Sent you PM.
By the way, welcome to PinoyDVD :) ;D You are member # 4377.
Cheers.
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4.) Marantz sr4300 - Best price per feature. 6.1 channel
- Best price for its performance also :D
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Philander,
Thanks for the welcome. Actually this is my 2nd account. My 1st account was never activated because i haven't ever received the activation email. :(
author=Philander By the way, welcome to PinoyDVD :) ;D You are member # 4377.
Cheers.
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To Levi,
I know you have B&W Speakers on your HT Setup.
I became interested with this brand when I heard a 601 model ata at Shangri-La Mall at B&W Shop.
Pero medyo mahal na 601 at 17k per pair.
Gusto ko sana nasa 13k ang front.
10k ang Center,
10k ang Surround.
(Kung medyo malapit ang price, puwede na)
Where can I get the best deals?
And what shop here offers the best deals and the most complete line of B&W Speakers.
Thanks.
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My inclination is now towards the Marantz sr4300... does is pair really well with Wharfs? I wanted Mission sana kaso it's way out of my budget. :)
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To Levi,
I know you have B&W Speakers on your HT Setup.
I became interested with this brand when I heard a 601 model ata at Shangri-La Mall at B&W Shop.
Pero medyo mahal na 601 at 17k per pair.
Gusto ko sana nasa 13k ang front.
10k ang Center,
10k ang Surround.
(Kung medyo malapit ang price, puwede na)
Where can I get the best deals?
And what shop here offers the best deals and the most complete line of B&W Speakers.
Thanks.
hope i can be of help. i think the shangrila shop is the most complete. but for better prices try hometheater or hyperaudio. if you think the 601 is out of your budget why not try the 300 series line of B&W? a lot of members of this board have positive things to say about it. if not try missions or wharfs instead which are also good
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grabe pala ang yamaha 1130 42k, yun 2130 52H?
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grabe pala ang yamaha 1130 42k, yun 2130 52H?
Can't recall the model at Sound Dimension, I think their Onkyo flagship receiver cost about 85k.
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To Levi,
I know you have B&W Speakers on your HT Setup.
I became interested with this brand when I heard a 601 model ata at Shangri-La Mall at B&W Shop.
Pero medyo mahal na 601 at 17k per pair.
Gusto ko sana nasa 13k ang front.
10k ang Center,
10k ang Surround.
(Kung medyo malapit ang price, puwede na)
Where can I get the best deals?
And what shop here offers the best deals and the most complete line of B&W Speakers.
Thanks.
Hi and sorry for the late reply. I have no internet access because Im staying with my in laws presently. Same advise as Bunkieboy, use the 300 series. Its a very good speaker including the LCR3 ( center ). Im still using 303 for my surrounds. Try Hyperaudio, Listening Room or Architectural Audio.
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Bunkie boy and Levi,
Thanks for the reply.
BTW, I already heard this 303 and not quite impressed.
Is it because it needs to be broken in first?
I auditioned this 303 side by side with M72i at Image and M72i sounds better. But the 601, oh boy.
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Bunkie boy and Levi,
Thanks for the reply.
BTW, I already heard this 303 and not quite impressed.
Is it because it needs to be broken in first?
I auditioned this 303 side by side with M72i at Image and M72i sounds better. But the 601, oh boy.
yeah a little break-in would bring out the quality of the 303s...this made me think, how would you decide by listening to a demo if the demo unit used was straight from the box?
anyway, i'll be demo-ing a pair M74i and M72i tomorrow and might run them side-by-side a 601s3 to see how they fare against each other and decide which one to get :-)
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Bunkie boy and Levi,
Thanks for the reply.
BTW, I already heard this 303 and not quite impressed.
Is it because it needs to be broken in first?
I auditioned this 303 side by side with M72i at Image and M72i sounds better. But the 601, oh boy.
My 303 is already a year old so its a lot better. The Mission are also very good and a lot cheaper. You wont go wrong with any of your choices.
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Nels76
Pre aside from B&W and Mission you can also try auditioning other brands like Klipsh sb2 and monitor audio B2 and Polk audio price is within 10k to 15k budget..
Architectural Audio - Monitor Audio
Spectra - Klipsh and Polk audio
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Presars,
Go for best sounding AVR and Speaker combo pre... HK and Wharf you can't go wrong.. ;D ;D ( that just me) but better audition all side by side.
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Hans,
Yup, already done with my audition. Best sounding for me... B2/HK. But its was out of my budget. Might settle for a Wharfe/Denon 1803 or HK 2550. Ambassador has a very tempting offer on the latter. Roughly 1% charge on card purchases. If only Nico could waive the 6% charge i'll go with HK 2550 without thinking twice. :)
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Presars,
Nice to hear you done your assignment ;D ;D
Sebman, told me Hk and B2 combo is nice sounding and warm. how about Denon and B2? ok din ba?? so Hk / b2 or Denon / B2 Go for the best speaker since mas mabilis upgrade ng feature/price ng AVR while speaker don't..
Speaker is like a beautiful voice what ever you sing ( AVR ) is still nice and beautiful but when your voice is bad hindi ka pwede kasi limited lang kaya mo ;D ;D gulo ata sir..
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Heed Hans Adrianes advice!!! Yan ang no.1 adviser ko :) Look at me now very very happy. Thanks again Henry!!
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kudos also to Hans.. super helpful sa mga newbies na katulad ko na makulit... cheers :D
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Prend Mdsaint & sebman,
yun consultation fee ko eh iniipon ko muna..
next time ko na lang sisingilin ;D ;D
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good point mentioned.
the speakers are the most important part of any setup. dont go scrimping on this if you can. buy cheaper interconnects or cheaper speaker wires instead. but never make your speakers the weakest part of your setup. as a lot of people have said, the receiver is normally upgraded every two years. the speakers normally should stay part of your setup more than 4 or so years ...unless you are one of the money bags on this site who cant help themselves from constantly upgrading (you know who you guys are :) )
nels76,
i would suggest you go for the 601s for your fronts. you cant go wrong with them. i think the 17k is its tag price. try looking around for a better discounted price for them. the 300s will be good for surrounds
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i opened a thread before to tell stories about my experiences on audio options. meron akong nasabi that Saving Private Ryan, We Were Soldiers, Vertical limit, and many others, etc. etc. are best viewed on DD-EX audio format.
Maraming nag-comment that so many of what ive mentioned are not DD-EX. I dont know how to react with that kasi my receiver says these are indeed EX and when i tested these again, EX nga at tumutunog talaga ang SBC ko. What i did was just to delete the thread.
Yesterday when i was making "KALIKOT" the remote of my pioneer VSXD811s-s, bigla kong na ilagay sa FIX 6.1. and i was surprised to see that the receivers display is now DD-EX when what i was viewing was just a 5.1 disc. i checked the SB speaker again and indeed it has an audio not similar to either surround left or right.
under this setup, the surround is even enhanced. i played all my other DVDs, including some of my pDVDs and all of them played DD-EX.
I am saying this here so everybody may have an info about the PIONEER VSX811s-s, so guys if u want to experience 7.1 audio for your 5.1 dvds you can get this one.
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Presars,
[td]HK 2550 (17k)
Marantz sr4300 (15.5k)[/td]
Saang shop ka nag-canvass?
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HK 2550 (17k)
Denon 1603 (15.9k)
Marantz sr4300 (15.5k)
Presars,
What shop did you get this prices from?
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guys help naman, medyo naguguluhan na ko, hindi ko na alam what receiver to buy ???
I want a receiver ksi that will work ok with wharfs, my options are
Yamaha rx-v630 (18k)
HK 2550 (17k)
Denon 1603 (15.9k)
Marantz sr4300 (15.5k)
ano ba talaga de best dito? ::)
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i opened a thread before to tell stories about my experiences on audio options. meron akong nasabi that Saving Private Ryan, We Were Soldiers, Vertical limit, and many others, etc. etc. are best viewed on DD-EX audio format.
Maraming nag-comment that so many of what ive mentioned are not DD-EX. I dont know how to react with that kasi my receiver says these are indeed EX and when i tested these again, EX nga at tumutunog talaga ang SBC ko. What i did was just to delete the thread.
Yesterday when i was making "KALIKOT" the remote of my pioneer VSXD811s-s, bigla kong na ilagay sa FIX 6.1. and i was surprised to see that the receivers display is now DD-EX when what i was viewing was just a 5.1 disc. i checked the SB speaker again and indeed it has an audio not similar to either surround left or right.
under this setup, the surround is even enhanced. i played all my other DVDs, including some of my pDVDs and all of them played DD-EX.
I am saying this here so everybody may have an info about the PIONEER VSX811s-s, so guys if u want to experience 7.1 audio for your 5.1 dvds you can get this one.
i thought you needed to play a EX or ES dvd to get discrete 6.1/7.1. you sure you arent just hearing matrixed 6.1 bro?
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i thought you needed to play a EX or ES dvd to get discrete 6.1/7.1. you sure you arent just hearing matrixed 6.1 bro?
bro, we have the same impression. i really dont know but i hear a differint sound from the Surround back channel. siguro nga this is matrix 6.1 but it enhances the surround of a 5.1 disk. i can see on the receivers display panel "DOLBY - EX" for all the 5.1 disks i played
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Dude,
PMed you.
Presars,
What shop did you get this prices from?
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guys help naman, medyo naguguluhan na ko, hindi ko na alam what receiver to buy ???
I want a receiver ksi that will work ok with wharfs, my options are
Yamaha rx-v630 (18k)
HK 2550 (17k)
Denon 1603 (15.9k)
Marantz sr4300 (15.5k)
ano ba talaga de best dito? ::)
Marantz 4300 or Yamaha 630. If you include the HK 3550, i'll choose this.
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Chief,
Update ko lang prices:
Yamaha rx-v630 (18k)
HK 2550 (19k)
Denon 1603 (15.5k)
Marantz sr4300 (17k)
This the current price.
guys help naman, medyo naguguluhan na ko, hindi ko na alam what receiver to buy ???
I want a receiver ksi that will work ok with wharfs, my options are
Yamaha rx-v630 (18k)
HK 2550 (17k)
Denon 1603 (15.9k)
Marantz sr4300 (15.5k)
ano ba talaga de best dito? ::)
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i opened a thread before to tell stories about my experiences on audio options. meron akong nasabi that Saving Private Ryan, We Were Soldiers, Vertical limit, and many others, etc. etc. are best viewed on DD-EX audio format.
Maraming nag-comment that so many of what ive mentioned are not DD-EX. I dont know how to react with that kasi my receiver says these are indeed EX and when i tested these again, EX nga at tumutunog talaga ang SBC ko. What i did was just to delete the thread.
Yesterday when i was making "KALIKOT" the remote of my pioneer VSXD811s-s, bigla kong na ilagay sa FIX 6.1. and i was surprised to see that the receivers display is now DD-EX when what i was viewing was just a 5.1 disc. i checked the SB speaker again and indeed it has an audio not similar to either surround left or right.
under this setup, the surround is even enhanced. i played all my other DVDs, including some of my pDVDs and all of them played DD-EX.
I am saying this here so everybody may have an info about the PIONEER VSX811s-s, so guys if u want to experience 7.1 audio for your 5.1 dvds you can get this one.
Yes, even 5.1 ang source mo, pwede mong imatrix to make it 6.1, then may sound talaga sa surround back.
Ang nakadisplay sa LCD panel mo is DD-EX or DTS-ES, pero matrix pa rin, ang input signal mo is DD or DTS.
Mag li-lit ang signal na DTS-ES or DD-EX (sa input signal AND sa LCD Display) pag ang source mo is 6.1 (DTS-ES or DD-EX).
Hope this helps.
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Marantz 4300 or Yamaha 630. If you include the HK 3550, i'll choose this.
mahal kasi ng 3550 eh :P, baka hindi na ako makabili ng speakers.
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Chief,
Update ko lang prices:
Yamaha rx-v630 (18k)
HK 2550 (19k)
Denon 1603 (15.5k)
Marantz sr4300 (17k)
This the current price.
sir san meron yamaha 630 na 18k or less?
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mahal kasi ng 3550 eh :P, baka hindi na ako makabili ng speakers.
for the 3T difference with the 2550.. go with 3550.. it also has dvd-a, sacd inputs, ezset and the OSD which is very helpful to newbies like me.. :)
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sir san meron yamaha 630 na 18k or less?
17.5 k listening in style robinsons east (cash price)
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17.5 k listening in style robinsons east (cash price)
I went there and it's 18k+
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bro, we have the same impression. i really dont know but i hear a differint sound from the Surround back channel. siguro nga this is matrix 6.1 but it enhances the surround of a 5.1 disk. i can see on the receivers display panel "DOLBY - EX" for all the 5.1 disks i played
that different sound you here is the magic of matrixed 6.1 :D
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If you play standard 5.1 material in matrixed 6.1 mode, wouldn't that mess up the sound separation and positional audio since all you would hear from the rear center channel would simply be a mish-mash of the 2 rear surround channels?
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looks like jerix is happy with it bro ;D
...might also give it a try
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Guys, I cant believe the price of this Acoustic Energy AE5, can you believe the price of this baby? Its a price of a brand new car! This one is for sale at spectra. Ano kaya meron ito at parang ginto ang presyo? Anyone interested?
(http://www.acoustic-energy.com/products/Images/ae5.jpg)
AE5 REFERENCE SERIES
Following several years of research, development and testing the Reference Series has undergone further enhancement with the introduction of the flagship AE5, a free space, floor standing 4-way loudspeaker. The AE5 uses the proven technology of the Reference Series coupled with significant new developments.
Utilising no less than seven drive units housed within a precision milled alloy front baffle - the AE5 features four 130mm metal-cone bass units (2 lower and 2 upper bass units), two 130mm metal-cone mid-range units and one 25mm HF tweeter which is directly coupled to the alloy front baffle. A true 4-way design, the AE5 can also benefit from being tri-wired to the heavy duty gold-plated binding posts.
The cabinet is a multiple-braced, resonance controlled construction, housing multiple separated chambers which are reflex loaded for the lower and upper bass units.
250 watts of power handling, a mid range performance unequalled in it’s class and a rosewood veneer cabinet enclosure of the highest craftsmanship quality, contribute to the creation of a sophisticated full-range loudspeaker of breathtaking sonic ability.
HF Units: 25mm magnesium alloy dome, ferrofluid cooled and damped, Directly coupled to front baffle
MF/LF Units: Four bass units Two mid-range units. All 90mm tri-layer alloy diaphragms thermally bonded to 32mm edge-wound ribbon voice coils
Power Handling: For use with amplifiers up to 250 watts
Frequency Response: 35Hz - 25kHz (+/-2dB)
Sensitivity: 91dB
Impedance: Typically 6 ohm
Cabinet:Santos Rosewood, Piano Black.
Connections: Gold-plated binding posts. Tri-wireable
Dimensions : (WxHxD) 220 x 1100 x 340mm
Weight: (excl packaging) 43kg per speaker
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I went there and it's 18k+
bro, kulitin mo for the last price. ganun yung ginagawa ko. was able to talk to the lady which i think must have been related to the owner (kaya siguro niya binigay yung ganun price).
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If you play standard 5.1 material in matrixed 6.1 mode, wouldn't that mess up the sound separation and positional audio since all you would hear from the rear center channel would simply be a mish-mash of the 2 rear surround channels?
Nope, ang design kasi nang matrix 6.1 is similar to the Dolby Prologic of ur old Compo in which yung sound na galing sa center channel eh extract from left and right mains, its the same with rear center sa rear left and right naman nya extract yung sound...
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Guys, I cant believe the price of this Acoustic Energy AE5, can you believe the price of this baby? Its a price of a brand new car! This one is for sale at spectra. Ano kaya meron ito at parang ginto ang presyo? Anyone interested?
(http://www.acoustic-energy.com/products/Images/ae5.jpg)
AE5 REFERENCE SERIES
Following several years of research, development and testing the Reference Series has undergone further enhancement with the introduction of the flagship AE5, a free space, floor standing 4-way loudspeaker. The AE5 uses the proven technology of the Reference Series coupled with significant new developments.
Utilising no less than seven drive units housed within a precision milled alloy front baffle - the AE5 features four 130mm metal-cone bass units (2 lower and 2 upper bass units), two 130mm metal-cone mid-range units and one 25mm HF tweeter which is directly coupled to the alloy front baffle. A true 4-way design, the AE5 can also benefit from being tri-wired to the heavy duty gold-plated binding posts.
The cabinet is a multiple-braced, resonance controlled construction, housing multiple separated chambers which are reflex loaded for the lower and upper bass units.
250 watts of power handling, a mid range performance unequalled in it’s class and a rosewood veneer cabinet enclosure of the highest craftsmanship quality, contribute to the creation of a sophisticated full-range loudspeaker of breathtaking sonic ability.
HF Units: 25mm magnesium alloy dome, ferrofluid cooled and damped, Directly coupled to front baffle
MF/LF Units: Four bass units Two mid-range units. All 90mm tri-layer alloy diaphragms thermally bonded to 32mm edge-wound ribbon voice coils
Power Handling: For use with amplifiers up to 250 watts
Frequency Response: 35Hz - 25kHz (+/-2dB)
Sensitivity: 91dB
Impedance: Typically 6 ohm
Cabinet:Santos Rosewood, Piano Black.
Connections: Gold-plated binding posts. Tri-wireable
Dimensions : (WxHxD) 220 x 1100 x 340mm
Weight: (excl packaging) 43kg per speaker
saw it when presars and i audition the B2 and m73i side by side at spectra.. sabi nung guy na nag-pa audition sa amin.. pang-porma lang daw nung tindahan nila yung speakers na to.. if i can remember right the price is 650T .. :o
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i also saw the AE5 at spectra. it caught my interest coz the metal drivers looked familiar. my previous speakers were also acoustic energy. AE is the brand that got me into this hobby. when i first heard AE, i resolved to own one someday, though i only got to own their cheapest speaker, and 5yrs later. it was at an audio show in tokyo where my boss dragged me on our way to a meeting. he says he's an "audio maniac" as the japanese fondly call the affliction. there were rooms assigned to each manufacturer and you're free to come and go to any of the demos. even after ive seen & heard electrostatics being driven by huge tube monoblocks, AE was the only brand that stuck in my mind. they rented a small auditorium that was completely dark save for a picture of an alto saxophone in the middle. it was all you can see. when they played the sax recording, the sound was awesome; it was as real and as exciting as you'll ever hear it live. even better than live as i realized it later after hearing a sax solo in a live performance (i guess the sound system wasn't that good). when they turned on the lights there were 2 relatively small bookshelfs further away from where the sound appeared to be coming from. they were playing the AE2, the smaller model with dual cones. i found this much later being sold at upscale audio for a price that blew my ambition of ever owning one.
the one on the right is the speaker i saw in tokyo and later at upscale:
(http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/products/Images/signature.jpg)
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looks like jerix is happy with it bro ;D
...might also give it a try
yeah, others are sayin that playin matrix 6.1 over a 5.1 is awful-- pero sa pandinig ko OK naman because it even expands the surrounds. Sa tingin ko this option shld not have been placed if it only muddles the sound from a 5.1 disk.
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good point. if it will distort then dont. but i guess based on jerix's experience a lot of movies sound good matrixed.
just like when u play a dolby stereo audio dvd. sometimes using dts neo or prologic II gives you better results. sometimes though you are better of settling for 2.1
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san ba pwede mag audition ng denon, marrantz and yamaha with whaferdale all together?
meron ba kasy sir sonny tuason?
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Pre try spectra and look for Jim
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Pre try spectra and look for Jim
san ba yun spectra?
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its at park square
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may gumagamit ba dito ng pioneer slimline recievers? VSX-C100-S for example..its at 13k..
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may gumagamit ba dito ng pioneer slimline recievers? VSX-C100-S for example..its at 13k..
Saw this one at Abenson alabang.It looks good. Dont know 'bout the performance.
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Hi!
Just got fed up reading all the specs of several AVR out there. One day I would settle for one AVR then change it once I review the specs of another. So I guess I better ask you experts based on your experience.
I kind of narrowed down my choice to Denon 1803 and Onkyo SR600 but others are still welcome - Yamaha RXV630, Marantz 4300, Harman Kardon, etc.
Forget the specs in the mean time, over-all impressions will do.
Please help me!
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I guess its only you who can determine whats the best receiver for your budget. What's good to me might not be good to you. All of your options are good, so whatever you choose will make you happy. Just read this thread from the start, it might help you decide. You can also check this out Comparisons of Receivers (http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=6653)
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Hi!
Just got fed up reading all the specs of several AVR out there. One day I would settle for one AVR then change it once I review the specs of another. So I guess I better ask you experts based on your experience.
I kind of narrowed down my choice to Denon 1803 and Onkyo SR600 but others are still welcome - Yamaha RXV630, Marantz 4300, Harman Kardon, etc.
Forget the specs in the mean time, over-all impressions will do.
Please help me!
Suggestion lang, dont look at the specs, kasi kahit gano kaganda ang specs tapos di mo naman gusto ang tunog eh wala din, minsan ang baba nang specs pero pag narinig mo eh hataw tumunog....
Go out and listen, bring a friend para may 2nd opinion ka..Magaganda lahat nang nasa list mo, pero like what levi said maaring yng maganda sa amin eh pangit sa iyo..
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Hi! Does someboby knows where the service center of Denon? Tnx! :)
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Rond,
GO buy the BEST sounding AVR your budget can buy pre.. second lang feature
Sound is important!! sir try to audition them all... paired with the speaker you will use and bring a friend like Sir Lancer said.. kung pwede tatlo kayo pre magdecide hehehe 3 heads are better than 2 and 1
Happy auditioning pre..
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Hi!
Just got fed up reading all the specs of several AVR out there. One day I would settle for one AVR then change it once I review the specs of another. So I guess I better ask you experts based on your experience.
I kind of narrowed down my choice to Denon 1803 and Onkyo SR600 but others are still welcome - Yamaha RXV630, Marantz 4300, Harman Kardon, etc.
Forget the specs in the mean time, over-all impressions will do.
Please help me!
Sound preference....
With 25K
I'll choose only from the following:
Yamaha 640
Marantz 5300
I can also consider the Onkyo SRXX1 series
Technically, they (marantz and yamaha) have almost the same features and specifications: Pre-outs, 6.1, power rating, supported audio formats,
Marantz uses 192/24 DAC, CS (circle surround) by SRS.
Yamaha has component video switching, speaker A + B terminals
If you like the sound of Yamaha, go for it. If Marantz, go with it.
Its you...
OT: Medyo mura lang din pala ang price ng Yamaha 640.
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Sound preference....
With 25K
I'll choose only from the following:
Yamaha 640
Marantz 5300
I can also consider the Onkyo SRXX1 series
Technically, they (marantz and yamaha) have almost the same features and specifications: Pre-outs, 6.1, power rating, supported audio formats,
Marantz uses 192/24 DAC, CS (circle surround) by SRS.
Yamaha has component video switching, speaker A + B terminals
If you like the sound of Yamaha, go for it. If Marantz, go with it.
Its you...
OT: Medyo mura lang din pala ang price ng Yamaha 640.
philander,
how much is that new yammie 640? thanks!
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philander,
how much is that new yammie 640? thanks!
Sent you PM.
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Sent you PM.
thanks a lot phil!
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Me too! I want to know how much this RXV-640 costs.
Please.
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seen a couple of posting in yamaha avr thread. 440 is 15k, 540 19k and 640 22k sa ambassador greenhills. di ko lang sure if this is correct
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seen a couple of posting in yamaha avr thread. 440 is 15k, 540 19k and 640 22k sa ambassador greenhills. di ko lang sure if this is correct
How about 340 kaya?
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about 11500-13500 cguro..wala p ko nkikita n rxv340 na actual..
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the most inexpensive branded receiver i know is d pioneer vsx-d412 around $160-170 only, but its only availble in d u.s.
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[I agree with the others that there's no better judge than your own ears, but if you want over-all personal impressions, here are mine:
1. Denon AVR 1803 - very clean-sounding, never tiring, but excellent detail and dynamics.
2. Yamaha RX-V630 - very cinematic (best for movies), excellent detail and dynamics, but can sometimes tire your ears after 2 movies straight.]
3. Marantz SR6300 - warm, most musical among the three, but ranks third for movies (my personal opinion only).
So it would really boil down to your needs or intended application and your listening habits.
1. If you plan to use it both for music and movies, get the Marantz.
2. If movies are your first love, get the Yamaha.
3. If you're into marathon movie watching or music listening, get the Denon.
Personally, I prefer the Denon because I think it's the best compromise of different qualities for me]
Hi!
Just got fed up reading all the specs of several AVR out there. One day I would settle for one AVR then change it once I review the specs of another. So I guess I better ask you experts based on your experience.
I kind of narrowed down my choice to Denon 1803 and Onkyo SR600 but others are still welcome - Yamaha RXV630, Marantz 4300, Harman Kardon, etc.
Forget the specs in the mean time, over-all impressions will do.
Please help me!
.
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Machine,
Baka mag-audition ka ulit ng Denon 1803 try Archi Audio meron sila Harman kardon baka magustuhan mo and NAD kung lumabas na rin yun new batch.. Music and HT ok pareho.. sir ;D ;D ;D
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Try also the new Onkyo 601.
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Guys help me decide between these two receiver, I'll buy na kasi this afternoon. Btw gonna pair it with wharfes.
Yamaha 640 or onkyo 600 ?
where can I find 601? what's the diff. from 600? how much kaya?
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if 640 has pre outs.. sa 640 na ko..
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if 640 has pre outs.. sa 640 na ko..
meron yun 640 but di naman ako interested on that, di ba ok yun onkyo?
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Kung may AVR's na maganda sa movies at meron maganda sa music, how can you categorize Concert Videos (DVD and VCD)? I'm fond of buying and watching/listening concert videos kasi (josh c., norah j., eagles, britney, etc.).
Anyway, mukhang maganda nga yata ang RXV640 but I have not heard it yet. Kaso Yamaha na itong current AVR ko. Satisfied naman ako dito sa luma.
Hi Gutierez! Ano na ang binili mo?
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bibili pa lang ako mmya I'm choosing bet yamaha 640 and onkyo 600, can't decide nga dunno which one is best matched with wharfes :-\
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IMO and from experience of many pinoy dvders, yamahas are a good match for wharfes...but if you want your wharfes to sing you can also try auditioning it together with HKs. just my 1 cent ;)
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Hi Gutierrez!
San mo balak bumili ng Yamaha o ng Onkyo? Halos pareho na tayo ng candidates - ako plus Denon 1803.
Thanks!
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Hi Gutierrez!
San mo balak bumili ng Yamaha o ng Onkyo? Halos pareho na tayo ng candidates - ako plus Denon 1803.
Thanks!
for the onkyo sa sights and sound for yamaha sa ambassador (cheapest for yamaha and denon 1803). Ill call mr. sonny tuazon later, baka mas ok yung prices sa kanya :)
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hi gutierrez!
have you considered marantz? i just called up sonny tuazon coz am planning to buy mission m73is and he mentioned that hes selling marantz sr6300 for 22.5K!!! its 6.1, 100watts x 6, and 192kHz/24bit dac (got this from audioreview.com). it was only two months ago that the sr5300 was being sold at 25K. maybe you can add this to your list coz marantz is know for its musicality, same with HK. just wanted to give you the info before you finally do your purchase.
is anyone using this receiver? any reviews?
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hi gutierrez!
have you considered marantz? i just called up sonny tuazon coz am planning to buy mission m73is and he mentioned that hes selling marantz sr6300 for 22.5K!!! its 6.1, 100watts x 6, and 192kHz/24bit dac (got this from audioreview.com). it was only two months ago that the sr5300 was being sold at 25K. maybe you can add this to your list coz marantz is know for its musicality, same with HK. just wanted to give you the info before you finally do your purchase.
is anyone using this receiver? any reviews?
Grabe, Marantz 6300 for 22.5K only, this is STEAL.
Ako, kung sakaling on the hunt ako ng receiver, di na ko magdadalawang isip.
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guys, there is anther ht package offered by avesco group (kenwood, terapin group) teac av receiver with speakers and powered subwoofer. saw this at sm appliance at annex and 5th ave at car park both at sm city yesterday. price is 22k. problem is the receiver is not dpl2. check it out. saw te teac speaker package in the us online shopping and it cost around $189.
what is dpl2? anybody who owns these teac ht package? comments pls...
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marantz 6300 na ko..
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what is dpl2? anybody who owns these teac ht package? comments pls...
dpl2 = dolby prologic 2
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guys expect a price drop on the x300 series or receivers from marantz since the x400 series is coming out. For those looking for a new receiver the sr6300 is a good choice, its power rating should be enough for small to medium rooms and the sound is very musical..next to nad of course hehe (biased) seriously though 23k for the sr6300 is a sweet deal;D
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haaaay naku lalo nako naguluhan ::), I was suppose to buy na yesterday the onkyo 600 then the kalbo guy from listening room mega told me that they have onkyo 601 for 25000 (buy order nga lang). Di tuloy ako nakabili, can't decide ksi :-\
Ano kaya ok pair with wharfes onkyo 601, yamaha 640 or yung marrantz?
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onkyo or marantz..the 601 looks interesting
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onkyo or marantz..the 601 looks interesting
gusto ko nga yun onkyo 601, 25000 lang sa Listening room mega (by order nga lang, so no cahnce to audition it). Okay kaya i-pair sa wharfes ?
sabi nung bokal guy mas ok daw yamaha 640 kesa onkyo 601 paired with wharfes, ano kaya?
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Between Onkyo 601 and Yamaha 640, I'll choose Onkyo because of the following:
192khz/24-bit DAC
DTS 96/24
Low Frequency Effect (LFE) level control (I like the bass management of Onkyo than Yamaha)
Powered Zone 2 capability
Advantage/s of Yamaha to Onkyo:
Pre-outs
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Between Onkyo 601 and Yamaha 640, I'll choose Onkyo because of the following:
192khz/24-bit DAC
DTS 96/24
Low Frequency Effect (LFE) level control (I like the bass management of Onkyo than Yamaha)
Powered Zone 2 capability
Advantage/s of Yamaha to Onkyo:
Pre-outs
I plan to pair with wharfes, okay kaya? sabi nung owner ng LR mega mas okay daw yun yammy 640, wlaka kasi sila stock ng onkyo's by order lang, so di ako pwede mag audition.
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Unsolicited advice lang gutierrez.. wag kang magmadali. Audition mo lahat ng brands, then trust your ears, bilhin mo yung gusto mo yung sound na okay din sa features at magagamit mo talaga.
Available sa market ang mga most known AV receivers:
Yamaha, Harman, Onkyo, NAD, Denon, Marantz, lahat sila may kanya-kanyang distinction, may drawbacks...
La lang, para maiwasan ang mga "mistakes"...
Malay mo blessing in disguise yung di ka nakabili kahapon kasi, makakakuha ka ng mas maganda.
Good things comes to those who wait.
Basta... trust your instinct.
:)
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Philander
Sir correct ka dyan..
Guiterrez,
Prend audition lang ng audition Libre yan sir.
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Unsolicited advice lang gutierrez.. wag kang magmadali. Audition mo lahat ng brands, then trust your ears, bilhin mo yung gusto mo yung sound na okay din sa features at magagamit mo talaga.
Available sa market ang mga most known AV receivers:
Yamaha, Harman, Onkyo, NAD, Denon, Marantz, lahat sila may kanya-kanyang distinction, may drawbacks...
La lang, para maiwasan ang mga "mistakes"...
Malay mo blessing in disguise yung di ka nakabili kahapon kasi, makakakuha ka ng mas maganda.
Good things comes to those who wait.
Basta... trust your instinct.
:)
Ayaw kasi magpa-audition nung mga av shop, nde tuloy ako makapag decide, I went to park square1 pero lahat ng puntahan ko busy dun sa mga "buyer" so hindi ako makasingit.
For now I'm stuck with onkyo 601 and yamaha 640 pero there's no way to audition 601 kasi by order lang sa LR mega and dun lang ako nakakita nito.
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Ayaw kasi magpa-audition nung mga av shop, nde tuloy ako makapag decide, I went to park square1 pero lahat ng puntahan ko busy dun sa mga "buyer" so hindi ako makasingit.
For now I'm stuck with onkyo 601 and yamaha 640 pero there's no way to audition 601 kasi by order lang sa LR mega and dun lang ako nakakita nito.
Pakitaan mo ng pera.. heheh joke lang.
Punta ka ng maaga para ikaw ang unang ma-entertain.
Try mo sa Architectural Audio, they carries Harman and Denon. Try mo kay Sonny Tuazon, he carries Onkyo, Yamaha and Marantz... di ka mapapahiya dyan lalo na sa ArchiAudio.
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Mr. Gutierez,
i assume the wharfes ur referring to are wharfedales.
mine is ONKYO 656 and Wharfedale Valdus series. it's been with me for 5 years and counting...
very satisfied ako, i'm planning to replace my ONKYO with the 601 and still use my Valdus. anong wharfedale ba ang gamit mo, Diamond 8 series na ba?
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Ayaw kasi magpa-audition nung mga av shop, nde tuloy ako makapag decide, I went to park square1 pero lahat ng puntahan ko busy dun sa mga "buyer" so hindi ako makasingit.
For now I'm stuck with onkyo 601 and yamaha 640 pero there's no way to audition 601 kasi by order lang sa LR mega and dun lang ako nakakita nito.
I saw an Onkyo 601 at B&W Shangrila/Sights and Sound at Shangrila mall. Maybe you can go there for audition.
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Sa wakas nakapag audition nako sa Parksquare, Yamaha, Onkyo 600, HK for wharfes and mission, isa lang masasabi ko, panalo talaga mission :)
Now my question is pano ko kaya gagawin "halos" magkasingtunog yun wharfes and mission?
My budget is limited to 45k, can anyone recommend a receiver, kahit na abutin ng 30k for receiver oks lang
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were you able to test the missions and wharfes with the receivers you mentioned (yamaha, onkyo, and HK)?
If yes and you liked the sound of missions, follow your heart and just get it rather than getting the 'wharfes' and spending on tweaks so that its sounds like missions. IMHO though, both are good speakers. Its just in the correct matching of speakers and receivers.
Just get what sounds best to you, this will save you from upgrading immediately because you're not satisfied with what you got.
Just my .5 cent :)
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na test ko na po and mas ok talaga yun mission sa kahit na anong receiver, compared to wharfes. Ang problema eh yun budget ko is very limited so if I go for mission my budget for receiver will only be 15k.
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Since its your preference, then get it! Speakers tend to stay in your system longer so its ok to spend more on them. Receivers on the other and hand becomes obsolete easily once a new technology or format is introduced. At 15k, i think you can also try a marantz, according to many pinoy dvders, it also matches well with the missions. :)
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na test ko na po and mas ok talaga yun mission sa kahit na anong receiver, compared to wharfes. Ang problema eh yun budget ko is very limited so if I go for mission my budget for receiver will only be 15k.
Get the mission, kahit front and center muna, so may 23K+ na budget ka for receiver. Hinay-hinay lang din.
I-huli mo muna yung sub and surrounds, if you want to use wharfs, get the HK 5500.
Sa mission kasi di ka gaanong mahihirapan sa ipapares mo na receiver....
IMHO, mas malaki budget for speakers.
Pero, in the end, kaw pa rin magdedecide.
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Gutierrez,
Mission speakers ba??? hehehehe
Sent you PM sir
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gutierrez,
go for missions pre. youll be upgrading ur receiver after a year or 2 so you can settle for a lower end receiver for now but your speakers will be staying for at least the next 5 years so better invest in them. ive compared wharfs and missions myself and ive realized that i would never be contented if i settled for em wharfes. Hans has a good offer for his two-month old missions so y not try em. was gonna buy them myself but an emergency came up and had to divert the funds :(
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the only wharfs worth keeping IMHO are the 8.1's the wharfs with the bigger drivers don't have the midrange of the 8.1's, they just need a long time of breakin unlike the missions.
one option is to not go 5.1 right away with your 45k budget. lets see:
25k for the receiver: Onkyo 601 for example
now you are left with 20k
If you're really bent on missions, an alternate is to go for front and surrounds instead of front and center kung wala ka pang speakers (like old component speakers for example) that way you can get the "surround" effect.
proper placing of the fronts can give a convincing center channel effect. Or an M72 + stands and a dtx or dynaquest sub if your just after the "boom" in HT. the entry level missions are ok for audio but if audio is your primary concern you might need to go a different path and not the receiver path :) hmmn I wonder why hans are selling his missions?hehe (joke lang hans ;D)
Another alternative: for the 20k though you can get fronts, center and surrounds plus a "sub" (dtx or dynaquest) if you choose the diamonds ( 3 pairs of diamond 8.1s) as your speakers. ok na to for ht...they just need lots of breakin, if you want to appreciate them in audio as well.
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John,
Your into tube pre you know my reason ;D ;D ;D
pero kung hindi ;D need budget to buy high sensitivity speaker :'( :'(
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gutierez,
i did some computations and i think u can complete ur setup with your 45K budget.
m73i and m7c2 front and center from hans 19.5K (last time i checked) :)
m70 for your surrounds from hometheatre 6.8K
that leaves you with around 18.7K for your receiver with which u can get a marantz 4300 or a yammie 630. if u have another 4K to spare, you can get the marantz 6300 for 22.5K from hometheatre :)
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or denon 1803 and hk2550 8)
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sakto yung 18.7 k sa hk 2550
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where can i buy this marantz for 22.5?pls pm me thanks
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where can i buy this marantz for 22.5?pls pm me thanks
Hometheatre sir Sonny T.
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I already have the mission m70i series (thanx for all the suggestions guys) yeheey :),
Sorry sir Hans ngayon ko lang nakita yun post mo nag day off kasi ako, naka save sana ako ng 2k :(.
Now I'm on lookin for a receiver, I'm choosing between onkyo 501 (20k) and HK 3550 (23k), ano kaya mas ok?
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hk na.. :D if budget permits 8)
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hk na.. :D if budget permits 8)
gusto ko nga HK 3550 kaso la ako makita, san kaya meron
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sa architectural audio.. 8)
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(http://international.harmankardon.com/products/images/product_large/AVR3550.gif)
here's the specs:
AVR 3550
Audio/Video receiver with Dolby Digital and DTS
Power packed. With this new A/V Receiver Harman Kardon once again shows what real power can do for your loudspeakers. The amplifier stage is able to supply 5 x 60-watt, using our famous high-current, ultrawide bandwidth amplifier design. On-board DTS, Dolby Digital and Dolby Pro Logic* II decoding, completed with our own exclusive Logic 7® and VMAx® virtual surround processing, make this AVR to every DVD Players' friend. Ease of use is not overlooked with on-screen menus and our exclusive EzSet™ remote control, which automatically sets the systems' output levels, as well as a programmable remote control of up to six components. The Harman Kardon AVR 3550 - real power for real performance
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spectra park square
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spectra park square
Sir wala sa spectra, dun ako bumili ng speakers suppose to get a receiver from them as well pero wala stock. san pa kaya?
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try architectural audio as johndoe suggested, its at new world hotel..super accomodating ang mga yan :)
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try architectural audio as johndoe suggested, its at new world hotel..super accomodating ang mga yan :)
will do, thanx
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gutierrez,
exacto sa budget mo yung onkyo sr-501 (P22k less 15%= P18,700 net). 6.1 discrete dd-ex and dts-es, crossover and speaker distance adjustments, etc and the signature onkyo high-end sound!
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I'll buy receiver na this afternoon, help me choose between onkyo 501, HK 3550, marrtantz 6300. Im more into HT.
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pre ill pick the hk 3550 8)
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pre ill pick the hk 3550 8)
gusto ko nga eh pero ala ko makita 3550, sabi pa ni sir Sonny T. mas ok pa daw yun Marrantz 6300
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si nelrey alam ko meron ata siyang stock nung hk3550.
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gusto ko nga eh pero ala ko makita 3550, sabi pa ni sir Sonny T. mas ok pa daw yun Marrantz 6300
i think the differnce sr6300 has dd-ex/dts-es na..while hk wala pa..pero still nasayo pa din un. 8)
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depende naman sa yo if you think 5.1 is not good enough for you. The sr6300 has six amps while the 3550 has 5. for ht sr6300 is the better choice only bec. it has 6 amps na, so just get another center speaker ayos na :) sound quality wise the hk is slightly better...but better nonetheless if your nitpicking.
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IMHO, i would go for the hk3550 if your are looking for more of the quality... although the other receivers are ok, it just so happens that this just fits my taste. if you are more of the features, go with the other brands.
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Well I already bought the Marrantz 6300 simply because parang bumili ka ng bnew car for the price of a second hand and also because of the advice of sir Sonny T. and also members like Philander and John5479, etc..
I was choosing between the marrantz 6300, HK 3550 and yamaha 640, IMO mas ok talaga yamaha in HT, mas wild kumbaga (w/c I prefer) pero music wise panalo ang marantz. I think I can still find a way to make marantz better in ht (if it's possible), to make it sound like yamaha. With regards to HK 3550 wala akong makita talaga and I think halos magkatunog din sila ng marantz.
Thanx to pinoydvd members and sir Sonny T, appreciate all your help :).
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IMHO, i would go for the hk3550 if your are looking for more of the quality... although the other receivers are ok, it just so happens that this just fits my taste. if you are more of the features, go with the other brands.
for me though I would get a nad receiver :)
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for me though I would get a nad receiver :)
i think it depend to your budget
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i think it depend to your budget
korek, medyo mabigat sa bulsa yun NAD (pero MALUFET)
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well I'm just suggesting out of preference, other factors such as cost and features come in to the picture. Basta love what you have :)
Sound wise I like the NAD, closest thing to an integrated audio and ht setup for the price range for me. (I'm using a NAD T752 btw)
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well I'm just suggesting out of preference, other factors such as cost and features come in to the picture. Basta love what you have :)
Sound wise I like the NAD, closest thing to an integrated audio and ht setup for the price range for me. (I'm using a NAD T752 btw)
sir what other brand you consider is the best in term of HT and two channel audio??? :)
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for midpriced receivers soundwise its nad. marantz and hk for me, pero for pure audio, receivers are not the way to go.
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Guiterrez,
Congrats on your new setup.
John
NAD ok talaga pre!!
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Guys help me decide between these receivers to be paired with missions
marantz, onkyo and Harman
Which of the three will sound best in ht and best in music?
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gutierrez,
on a scale of 1 to 10, rate ur marantz 6300 on audio? video? and same with yamaha 640.
by the way, can u check with the manual if it really has 192kHz/24-Bit Audio DAC.
congratulations on ur new setup!
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gutierrez,
on a scale of 1 to 10, rate ur marantz 6300 on audio? video? and same with yamaha 640.
congratulation on ur new setup!
Hi there
Hindi ko pa na try yun Marantz sa mission speakers ko pero na try ko yun marantz and yamaha sa higher model ng mission (co Sonny T.) all I can say is:
marantz 6300 is very good on music, on ht warm sya and laid back
yam 640 is very loud on music medyo matinis, on ht very detailed and bright.
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Guys help me decide between these receivers to be paired with missions
marantz, onkyo and Harman
Which of the three will sound best in ht and best in music?
I believe all of those brands will sound very well in either music or HT. My personal philiosophy: as far as sonics are concerned, what is good in music is good in ht, but not the other way around. Oftentimes, the deterimining factor, given the same power handling traits and price point, would be your preference for convinience features, user-friendliness, input/output flexibility, upgradability, aftersales support/reliability, video formats supported and aesthetics, to name some.
Being a flagship Onkyo user myself, I like Onkyo's musicality. But if i were to buy a new recvr today, i'd go for a Haman. That brand has a reputation for excellent musicality and video features as well as enough power for transient peaks that other brands may have difficulty giving. The Marantz likewise has a good reputation for being a musical performer with reliable built. That in general is my take on the brands. Maybe, specific models and price points may not conform to these. Am very certain they can match a Mission or any mid-price mid-fi speakers out there. A word on Onkyos as they are usually advertized as requiring a minimum of 6-ohms for speakers in most of their product ads/brochures. And Missions i think are nominally rated at 8 ohms. Check the user manuals because what is stated in the ads can differ from the manuals. I know that Onkyo is a little overstated in their ads/brochures for power handling at 6 ohms but is quite candid in their manuals which are rated at lesser power levels at 8 ohms. But the fact that they can drive nominal 6 ohmers is a good indication of their ability to drive lower loads( and frequencies with lower impedances) I think a Harman can do a better job in that area as they can drive 4 ohmers. Just my 2 cents.
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Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
magandang start na yan kapatid... try mo konzert hehe
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hi all,
just want to ask for your opinions: if you had 20-30k to spend for speakers (bookshelf) what would you get?
for music use (and the occassional movie), solid state stereo amp
thanks! :)
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I think the Sonus Faber Concertino booksehelf at Upscale in Makati is selling for 30T. Why don't you check it out?
But it may be a good idea to declare your amp's brand.model, power rating and impedance range preference, as well as what genre of music you prefer to listen to most of the time, room size and how loud you play them. These and maybe others can help us determine the best bookshelf speakers for your budget range.
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I think the Sonus Faber Concertino booksehelf at Upscale in Makati is selling for 30T. Why don't you check it out?
But it may be a good idea to declare your amp's brand.model, power rating and impedance range preference, as well as what genre of music you prefer to listen to most of the time, room size and how loud you play them. These and maybe others can help us determine the best bookshelf speakers for your budget range.
thanks! i'm looking to partner it with the Fase amp I was able to buy recently:
Specifications:
50wpch @ 8ohms
70wpch @ 4 ohms
Inputs - Phono, CD, Tuner, Video, Tape (play/rec), Line in/out
Power - 220-240V
Weight - 7kg unpacked
Dimensions - 42.5cm W x 7.5 H x 32 D
music: rock, metal, acoustic, female vocals, r&b
room: 4m wide x 3.5m deep x 10m high vaulted ceiling
volume: i usually get to listen at 9pm in the evening so its not high
thanks for any suggestions
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Iceman,
Pre try to audition these brands baka ok match sa amp mo and better bring you AMP para you can hear right away kung which is better.
Klipsh RB-3 reference series
Monitor Audio Silver 2 ( S2 )
Mission 782 ( Floorstander )
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Iceman,
Yup , our amp doesn't seem to be too heavy to lug around so i suggest you bring it with you to audition speakers. Also i don't think the brand is commonly found in the local AV shops, so briging it with you may be the wise thing to do if you really want to check the best possible speaker match for them. Offhand I'd stick with my earlier recommendation for a Sonus Faber Concertino. But other brands like Tanoy and Klipsch which I think has a higher sensitivity rating might benefit your set-up. Just my 2 cents.
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pwede makigulo?? hehe... dagdag ko lang sa options ni iceman: pre-owned dynaudio audience 52. nakita ko yata dati sa buy/sell section selling for 22k. di ko pa to naririnig pero narinig ko na sa listening room yung audience 40.
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pwede makigulo?? hehe... dagdag ko lang sa options ni iceman: pre-owned dynaudio audience 52. nakita ko yata dati sa buy/sell section selling for 22k. di ko pa to naririnig pero narinig ko na sa listening room yung audience 40.
thanks! all your suggestions are welcome. keep them coming :)
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the problem with the audience 52 is that its just 4 ohms, baka mahirapn yung integrated nya but then again he can always audition it first from tuff u gong
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the fase might be a good match with the dynaudio audience 52. it's rated 70w rms @ 4 ohms. you can add an active subwoofer to handle the bass-reproducing chores. in this way the fase will not be taxed even at higher volume levels. mas maluwag tutunog yung mids and highs ng dynes. tip: connect the subwoofer's speaker terminals to the amp's speaker terminals (paralleled with the dynes). In this setup you are assured that the quality of the low frequency going to the dynes and the subwoofer are the same.
Just from experience...
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the fase might be a good match with the dynaudio audience 52. it's rated 70w rms @ 4 ohms. you can add an active subwoofer to handle the bass-reproducing chores. in this way the fase will not be taxed even at higher volume levels. mas maluwag tutunog yung mids and highs ng dynes. tip: connect the subwoofer's speaker terminals to the amp's speaker terminals (paralleled with the dynes). In this setup you are assured that the quality of the low frequency going to the dynes and the subwoofer are the same.
Just from experience...
thanks Sir!
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thanks! i'm looking to partner it with the Fase amp I was able to buy recently:
Specifications:
50wpch @ 8ohms
70wpch @ 4 ohms
Based on iceman's specs, it seems his amp has high current capability to drive 4 ohm loads continously. So a dynaudio audience 52's 4 ohm rating need not present a concern. His amp specs coupled with his large enough budget give him so much choices.
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His amp specs coupled with his large enough budget give him so much choices.
i just want to make sure that i'll never have to think "what if..." again
add to that the fact i'll be losing my internet access during working hours will certainly cure my upgrade itch.
thanks guys - sana may mag devil's advocate pa at mag recommend ng iba pang speakers :)
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tip: connect the subwoofer's speaker terminals to the amp's speaker terminals (paralleled with the dynes). In this setup you are assured that the quality of the low frequency going to the dynes and the subwoofer are the same.
Just from experience...
Medyo OT: can the sub be connected at the speaker level via the "B" speaker connections on an AVR or Integrated amp with multi-room capability?
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i just want to make sure that i'll never have to think "what if..." again
It can be difficult not to think "what if" even if you have the most expensive gear or one that makes you happy. You can always justify by saying, "I want to be happier." I think it's human nature. especially for those who always strive for something better. but I guess if you are happy with what you have, there'd be less temptation to think "what if" for a longer period of time.
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well...based from the master (hyperaudio no less) I guess you might consider the dynaudio 52's then...real nice sounding speakers paired with able amps :)
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pwede makigulo?? hehe... dagdag ko lang sa options ni iceman: pre-owned dynaudio audience 52. nakita ko yata dati sa buy/sell section selling for 22k. di ko pa to naririnig pero narinig ko na sa listening room yung audience 40.
and the winner is!
thank you all for your suggestions ;D
now its time to enjoy the music ;)
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congrats iceman!! galing ng combi.
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congrats iceman!! galing ng combi.
thanks!
puyat nga ako eh ;D
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iceman
kelan natin itest yan? kelan ka magapa-party sa bahay ninyo?
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iceman
kelan natin itest yan? kelan ka magapa-party sa bahay ninyo?
anytime - kayo lang naman hinihintay ko eh :D
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Hi guys, hope you could help me with this one ??? ??? ???.
Im planning to replace my set-up (Yamaha RXV430 & NSP230) with, hopefully, Mission speakers (M70i series) and a good receiver (thinking of HK 3550). I've read from here that hk3550 is only a 5.1 channel. My question is that, say your DVD disk is recorded on 6.1, can you still hear the effects of the rear center speakers from your left & right surround? May mawawala bang sfx if your receiver is a 5.1?
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I've read elsewhere that 6.1 is just a pro-logic implementation for the rear stereo channels. Thus, the 6.1 channel will be phantomed between the L and R rear surround channels if you play a 6.1 encoded disk on a 5.1 set-up. Conversely, a 5.1 encoded disk will have a pro-logic-like matrized 6.1 rear center channel in a 6.1 set-up. Just my 2 cents.
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know wat, i have about 80 original dvds and 200 pdvds (shhhh!). i have zero titles encoded in 6.1... and i have 2 in DTS. just about sums up my use for DTS and EX/ES for the last 5yrs.... in short, i would rather have 5 kicking channels than 6 limping channels. unfortunately the market is headed towards more & more channels, and less & less power. 7ch will be the next standard (so you could buy more speakers and cables??). there will be more speakers dedicated for surround effects (4) than the things going on in the fronts/screen (3).
for me, pre-ins/outs are more important. i only upgrade my dvd player (3x) for the latest formats. dvd players have a shorter lifetime bcoz mechanical parts break down after years of use.
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I honestly prefer DD over DTS as I find the sound level of the FX too loud. DD sounds warmer and less fatiguing to me for those weekend movie marathons...
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Hi guys, hope you could help me with this one ??? ??? ???.
Im planning to replace my set-up (Yamaha RXV430 & NSP230) with, hopefully, Mission speakers (M70i series) and a good receiver (thinking of HK 3550). I've read from here that hk3550 is only a 5.1 channel. My question is that, say your DVD disk is recorded on 6.1, can you still hear the effects of the rear center speakers from your left & right surround? May mawawala bang sfx if your receiver is a 5.1?
hey....it would not....got this from dolbyWhat is "5.1" surround sound?
Dolby Digital brings 5.1-channel surround sound into your home. It provides five full-range audio channels: three for speakers at the front and two for surround speakers at the sides. A sixth, low-frequency effects (LFE) channel carries those deep bass sound effects you feel more than hear. Because it covers only about one-tenth of the audible range, the LFE channel is called a ".1" channel. Its low bass sounds can be channeled to the subwoofer in the home theater system, if it has one, or to any other speakers in the system that can reproduce low bass.
A newer variation of Dolby Digital, called Surround EX, encodes Dolby Digital program material with a third surround channel that can be decoded at the listener's option for playback over additional surround speakers placed behind the viewers (Figure 2). Surround EX program material is fully compatible with regular Dolby Digital 5.1 playback (the additional center rear information is split between the left and right surround channels).
hope this helps! :D
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Akyat,
Sent you PM.
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Well sounds no big difference between the two. Im into HT & audio kasi. Heard na superb sa audio ang HK and ok din naman sa HT.
Tnx mga chong. ;D ;D ;D
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Among these receivers (HK, Yamaha, Onkyo, Marantz, Denon) w/c are considered warm, bright, laidback and front?
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Hi there peeps. :) I'm new to this mboard and hobby. I need your opinion with regards to matching my existing receiver. Mine is Harman Kardon 2550. I read threads here regarding the Wharfedale 8.3, 8.4 and Mission M73i floorstanding speakers. Since most members here have actually used these speakers, I want to ask your opinion regarding those said speakers. Do you think I'm good to settle for Wharfedale 8.4 or go for the expensive one which is the Mission M73i? =) Thanks in advance. =)
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I vote for Mission. At least you wont upgrade anymore and you have to invest more with speakers because they last longer.
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wharf and hk is a good combi. but if budget permits, then go for the missions. you won't go wrong with missions.
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Thanks for all the suggestions guys. :) Now I know which one to buy. I rather extend my budget.
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If you can extend further, why dont you try B&W?
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I will get the specs of those speakers you've mentioned. Or should I say get their prices and see if I can afford them. ;)
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I will get the specs of those speakers you've mentioned. Or should I say get their prices and see if I can afford them. ;)
pre consider mo rin yong Monitor audio and also try mo rin mag audition before you decide to buy kc ikaw ang makikinig
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I will get the specs of those speakers you've mentioned. Or should I say get their prices and see if I can afford them. ;)
bro pm mo si nelrey para may idea ka kung how much yung mga speakers.
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How about WHARF and MARANTZ? Is it a good combination both for Audio and HT?
Thanks ...
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How about WHARF and MARANTZ? Is it a good combination both for Audio and HT?
Thanks ...
I'm using this combo...
To me, its good enough for HT but for Audio... its not that okay.. too bright.
Anyway, its just me.
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Philander,
Pardon my ignorance, but what does too bright mean?
Thanks again
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Philander,
Pardon my ignorance, but what does too bright mean?
Thanks again
"Bright" is a perception wherein the sound coming out of the system is over emphasized at the mid-highs to highs. Too much detail because has very high in treble at flat settings.
In other word... "matining", pag katagalan, medyo masakit na sa tenga. Lalo na kung ang mga sources are like voices of charlotte church, sarah brightman, mariah carey.....
(of course pwedeng itimpla ang tremble and bass settings)
Pero kung baritone voices like Josh Groban, Michael Buble, Frank Sinatra... Mezzo-Soprano and alto voices like Diana Krall, norah jones... okay ang tunog.
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Dudes help me out
which of these receivers are considered laid back, bright, warm?
Harman, Onkyo, Marantz, Yamaha, Denon
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Dudes help me out
which of these receivers are considered laid back, bright, warm?
Harman, Onkyo, Marantz, Yamaha, Denon
for me harman is my choice try to audition side by side then see the difference in term of brigth and warm also consider NAD SULIT :o ;D
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Peeps, can someone PM me the current prices of these speakers listed below?
M74i
M73i
M70i
Mission Center(old and new model)
Monitor Audio B2
Monitor Audio B4
Monitor Audio Center
Monitor Audio(for surround sounds)
Thanks :)
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Peeps, can someone PM me the current prices of these speakers listed below?
M74i
M73i
M70i
Mission Center(old and new model)
Monitor Audio B2
Monitor Audio B4
Monitor Audio Center
Monitor Audio(for surround sounds)
Thanks :)
i got my b2 11700 and MA center for 7600
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try 2 audition ONKYO and DENON, parehong mataba tumunog s audio,meaning di matalas ang highs, good emphasis on low level frequencies, ok din s movies mataba din tumunog ;)
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hi! i'm a newbie here. i'm planning to buy an HT system in a few months. meron na kong dvd player (pioneer 535k). bali speakers & receiver nalang kulang. nalilito na ko sa dami ng models ng receivers. 3.5m x 2.6m (9sqm) lang yung room ko. tapos concrete walls, wood yung sahig.
patulong naman kung ano ok na bilhing speakers & receiver. budget ko e 15-20K sa receiver, tapos 20K sa speakers. i've auditioned yamaha ns-p620. natuwa naman ako. it's 19836 at Listening in Style shangrila. is there any package of setup na mas ok with my budget? sabi nila ok daw jbl n24.
salamats.
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try to audition wharfedale diamond series
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thanks 5.1!
i've already auditioned yamaha rxv440 with yamaha nsp620 ht speaker set. i think the amount of power is enuf for my 9sqm room. the receiver have dts-es, dd-ex, and it's 6.1. i'm happy with the result. just wanna look up on other setups. the yamaha package is about 37K.
is wharfdale diamond series just one model? or are there other version of the diamond series? may i know the wharfdale version with the same power as the nsp620?
the nsp620 is rated at L/R/S 40-100W, C is 50-125W and the sub is 100W. again, the power is enuf para i-report ako sa barangay, dikit-dikit kasi sa neighboorhood e. that's why i'm not looking for more power. hehehe.
salamats again.
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Antukin,
I think you would be better off pairing the rx-v440 with a wharfedale diamond series set. I think with your budget you can already get 2 pairs of diamond 8.1, a diamond center, and a dynaquest dq-12 subwoofer. This setup will definitely be more flexible and better sounding than the nsp package. Hope this helps. Good Luck!
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hi obey. i'll definitely audition wharfedale 8.1. i forgot to mention i've auditioned wharf moviestar 1000. i was not happy with it.
may i know where can i have a good purchase/audition of 8.1 with dq-12?
any idea how much the 4 8.1s & the center would cost? also the dq-12.
can i put my mini-bar ontop of the dq-12? hehehe.
thanks so much
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peeps,
advice needed. has anyone ever used an onkyo 494? its being sold for 10K and i was wondering if its a good buy. i know its only 5.1 but i dont have a big place and no place for a 6th channel. which receivers would you compare it with? denon? marantz? yamaha? any help would be great coz am planning to buy it on tues when i pass by manila. thanks in advance!!!
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Antukin,
You can try ambassador appliances at shangri-la mall. They sell wharfedale speakers and dynaquest subwoofers.
Wharfedales usually take longer to break-in. Huwag ka mag-expect na maganda agad yung tunog niya out of the box. Usually parang medyo muffled or "ngo-ngo" ang sound niya pag bago.
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Try to audition
Receiver
Denon 1603
Onkyo 501
Yamaha 430 or 440
Marantz 4300
Harman Kardon 2550
Speakers
Mission m70 series
Monitor Audio
I dont think your budget would allow you to get a sub but you can check out
Dynaquest
US Lab/DTX
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thanks levi. i'll take a look at all these receivers. i've saved all specs from the internet. auditioning nalang. basic # inputs & outputs, just enough power, but i'd like the dts-es, dd-ex features. it's good that you listed the lowends with the specs i like. thanks thanks. i'll also audition the speakers. na list ko na rin.
obey, pati ba speakers may break-in? how many hours of use bago nagiging ok ang speakers, particularly wharf8.1? sayang, nung nagpunta ako nung weekend sa shang, di ko pa sinilip yung ambassador. thanks
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diamonds regardless of what model takes 1 or 2 months to break-in due to its kevlar construction. tyaga lang muna bro in break-in period for wharfs.
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I always thought the break-in requirement is meant to loosen the rigidity of the driver's suspension materials, not the cone materials.
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hi, i have audition this setup a Harman Kardon2550 and aJBL SCS138 5.1 speaker systems with down-firing sub. and i think its kewl and its rocks! it would costs around a total of P40k. is it worth it? or you can recommend a speaker system which can match with a HK2550. my room is about 15sq. m. an entry level setup would do for me.
and one more thing, what would you say about Pioneer DVD 366. is it a bang for a bucks?( am i right??)
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antukin,
get the wharf diamonds,u cant go wrng w/ these speakers,match them even w/ DTX,US AUDIO subs ok na,sobra n yon para mgalit ang kapitbhay, plus a nice,decent receiver(i would recommend DENON or ONKYO 2 go along w/ wharfs) basically thats it! FIVEPOINTONE na!!!
*b careful of fraud DENON dealers,check the AUTH.dealers at this site
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peeps,
my hunt for an entry level receiver have narrowed down to these 3...
yamaha 430 - 12.3K
yamaha 620 - 11K (2nd hand)
onkyo 494 - 10K (2nd hand)
id like your expert opinions on these, especially comparing yamaha 430 with the 620. hope u can all help coz will make the purchase tomorrow when i pass by manila so ill have to make the decision tnyt.
thanks in advance!!!
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maraming maraming salamat sa mga inputs nyo.
next time i go window shopping, i'll audition the wharf 8.1 with dq and us audio.
sa receivers, ang mga icoconsider ko e:
1) yamaha 440
2) onkyo 501
3) marantz 4300
4) denon 1803
ito yung na-browse ko with same features/class. ang qualifications ko e yung price, after sales service. as a newbie, i'm afraid i won't be able to point out the difference sa quality of audio & video. or, magiging obvious ba pag in-audition ko all four? hopefully...
maraming salamats ulit.
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another question. i'm having space problems in my room.
1) may i know the dimentions of the dq-12 and us audio subs?
2) can the wharf diamond 8.1 be wall mounted? the left & right channel at least?
thanks again.
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I've decided to go Mordaunt Short Speakers and Subz all the way, 150 watts for all and 250w for subz.
Please help me what AV Ampli Receiver to buy. My budget is between 25K min to as high as 32K
Yung complete na sana mga peeps. Salamat po, sana bago ako pumunta sa Ansons bukas alam ko na model na maganda through everybody's help. Thanks po.
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give the NAD T752 a whirl, you won't regret it, one of the more musical receivers out there. ask redkoji for a demo. well within your budget.
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Try KENWOOD KRF - X9060D. I have this receiver connected to all MS Speakers. Except Sub. Very Clean Sounding. Not harsh even at high volume.
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DQ12- 15.5" w, 17.5" h, 13" thick
Bili ka nalang stands for your 8.1s. No wall mounting brackets at the back e.
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mag 8.3 whrfs kna lng, pag nag 8.1 k bili kpa stand cguro pinakamura mga 2k, halos ganon din magagastos mo,mas ok ang floorstanding sa fronts, s sub try to look 4 d DTX n 8" subs pede n yon pang small to mid size rm
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I've decided to go Mordaunt Short Speakers and Subz all the way, 150 watts for all and 250w for subz.
Please help me what AV Ampli Receiver to buy. My budget is between 25K min to as high as 32K
Yung complete na sana mga peeps. Salamat po, sana bago ako pumunta sa Ansons bukas alam ko na model na maganda through everybody's help. Thanks po.
Hi Welcome to PinoyDVD,
Have you tried other speakers like B&W, Monitor Audio or Mission? Pleas read this thread for receiver recommendations before buying. just my 1 cent advise
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salamat indricold. grabe anlaki ng dq12. baka sunugin ng mga kapitbahay ang house namin. baka nga mag dtx8" nalang ako.
5.1 - magandang suggestion yang magfloorstanding na fronts. pag iisipan ko rin yang mabuti. salamats pre.
tsaka baka mag yamaha 430 nalang ako. ala na kasing paglalagyan ng rear center e. tapos lahat naman ng dvd ko e 5.1 lang. unless na marami ng titles ang naka 6.1.
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with regards to my post, i'm considering kenwood x9060D balita ko mura ito for a THX certified receiver. Dilemma lang ako kasi yung yamaha mukhang maganda din, di masyado sa onkyo pero magand din, pero i want to ask yung denon and pioneer kung ok at anong model, bili na kasi ako today eh.
san ko ba makuha ang kenwood na yun nels?
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san makakabili ng mission na speakers? location po?
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with regards to my post, i'm considering kenwood x9060D balita ko mura ito for a THX certified receiver. Dilemma lang ako kasi yung yamaha mukhang maganda din, di masyado sa onkyo pero magand din, pero i want to ask yung denon and pioneer kung ok at anong model, bili na kasi ako today eh.
san ko ba makuha ang kenwood na yun nels?
Actually, you can get 9060D from Major Branches of Abensons, SM Appliance Center, Ansons, and Automatic Center.
Small outlets of the above appliance centers do not sell 9060D.
You can get it also from 5th Avenue Electronics Branches: Alabang Town Center, SM South Mall, Park Square 1, SM Mega Mall, SM North Edsa to name a few.
You may not be pleased with the sound if out of the box. Wait for 2 to 3 weeks and you will be rewarded.
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san makakabili ng mission na speakers? location po?
Luckyluis,
additional tip lang.
if you are planning to get a 5.1 Mordaunt Short setup, go to 5th avenue electronics at SM Mega Mall. May promo sila. for 5.1 speakers lets say:
Front: MS 902
Center: MS 905
Surround: MS 903
Sub: MS 907
You will get a 25% off plus 5% off again. Any combination. I think it's only until end of this month.
Nakakuha ako ng promo na iyon. I have MS 912, MS 905, MS 902. The sub is for a friend - MS 308.
Kenwood and MS are a good match.
Ask James16, akyatbundok and Narayan. nag-eb kami sa haus ko last saturday. Pinarinig ko sa kanila setup ko.
BTW, if you're into stereo music, 9060D is average sounding lang. but for multi-channel like DVD Audio, SACD and DVD movies it sounds great especially if speaker eq and active eq is engaged.
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Nels,
maraming salamat po, pag nagkataon i'll be one with you guys using 9060D. Wag lang akong matuksong mag YAMAHA or Pioneer na new models hehehe o kaya denon
Btw nels, yung 9060D ba eh complete na ang specs?
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I advise that you audition other brands. Its better to be happy with your purchase. Dont rush because you might end up upgrading again. After comparing and you feel the MS and Kenwood are the best option then go for it. For the mean time, try as much as possible to audition. You can go to Architectural Audio, The Hometheater, Listening Room, Sights and Sound, Spectra, SoundDimension or the Avid shop in Rockwell. They have different receivers and speakers you can try.
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Luckyluis,
Correction lang po. Regarding MS Speakers Discount. It is 20% off + 5% off and not 25% off + 5% off.
By the way, 9060D got 5-star rating from Sound & Vision twice - September and November issue I think.
Measured power by S & V is 92Watts x 6. It can get really loud.
By the way, it is a 6.1 Receiver with 5.1 Analog Input and 7.1 Pre-out.
DPLII, DTS NEO, Circle Surround II, DTS-ES, DD-EX, THX Surround EX.
MAKE SURE YOU CONNECT ALL SPEAKERS WITH 8-OHMS NOMINAL (para safe in the long run). like Mission, Mordaunt Short, B&W, Polk Audio RT Series among many others.
Good Luck. Try mo din iba receiver. It's all up to you. I am just giving hints.
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i heard nels76's setup and it sounds great.
but do follow levi's suggestion because only thru auditioning different brands will you get -- Peace Of Mind. even though you already have a setup that you're satisfied with, there will always be a voice whispering in your head: "what if kenwood sounds better? ...what if marantz sounds better? ...what if HK sounds better? ...what if yamaha sounds better? ...what if denon sounds better? ...what if onkyo sounds better?".
i'm speaking from my own experience. hehe... ;D ;D ;D ...the voice is still whispering to me... shhhh.
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Luckyluis,
as what akyat and levi had suggested, do auditions to all the brands and models of the same price range if possible. Iba talaga kapag ikaw ang naka-experience .Also consider the room acoustics and speakers to be used (cables also). Matching is very important.
Sakin kasi naman lahat ng brands magaganda, its up to your own preference. Another consideration will be aftersales service and warranty.
In my own experience, I had tried all the brands at a certain price range (Denon, Yamaha, Kenwood, Marantz, Pioneer, NAD and Sherwood), considered my speakers and speaker placement and my sound preference (60% HT / 40% music). I ended up with HK with less features compared to other brands but i like the way it sounds and i felt that i don't need the other attractive features, at di ako nagsisisi.
And after buying whatever ht you chose, dapat at least, maminimize mo ang katananungan na kung ito ang nabili mas ok kaya?
But based from my fellow pinoydvd members, they have suggested that you get the best speakers, coz mas matagal mag-upgrade yan compared to players and receivers.
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kainggit naman mga budget nyo. hehehe.
meron po bang nakaka-alam ng presyo ng wharfedale diamond 8.3? compared to 8.1 + stands?
salamats
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i think d price of 8.3 now is around 6.8-7.5k depende s store, i think 8.1 pang rear yon, 8.2 ang front bookshelf cguro nasa 5k, tapos ang stand 2k depende rin s style,height,material at kung san k bibili ;)
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luckyluis,
advice lng, dont go for pioneer try 2 consider other receivers masyado matalas ang tunog ng pioneer, yun nga lng dami service centers. mag pioneer k kung mga flagship model,ok yon! advice lng..
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kainggit naman mga budget nyo. hehehe.
meron po bang nakaka-alam ng presyo ng wharfedale diamond 8.3? compared to 8.1 + stands?
salamats
What stuck to my mind is the Mission M72 + Lovan stand virtually costs the same as a floorstanding M73. If i recall my canvassing days, the same applies to the Wharfe 8.3 vs the 8.2 + stands. 8.1 + stands i think is cheaper. But i guess it depends on the stands you buy. There are stands than can go as cheap as 2.2T and those that can go higher than 12T. Plus you may have to buy bistay sand to fill them for increased regidity. But a bagful will only cost P40. ;D
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luckyluis,
advice lng, dont go for pioneer try 2 consider other receivers masyado matalas ang tunog ng pioneer, yun nga lng dami service centers. mag pioneer k kung mga flagship model,ok yon! advice lng..
I concurr, if for the same price, there are better more musical receivers out there like HK, Onkyo and Denon. Unless you're talking of the Elite series.
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Hi,
Latest is that I ordered (if i may say purchased na coz kukunin ko pa lang sa saturday) the following
Receiver - Onkyo 701 THX (latest model)
Speakers Mission m70i series
Front - m74i 150 Watts
Front Center - m7c2 100 Watts
Rear Center - m7c1 100 Watts
Surrounds - m7ds 100 Watts
Subz - Polkaudio ps450 300 Watts
including wires/cables
all for 100,000 plus from Sonny Tuazon's The Home Theater. I would really recommend him muntik na akong makabili ng maling speakers if not for his advise. Though medyo nag over budget talaga ako, i'm pretty much satisfied kahit hindi gaanong high-end ang kinalabasan.
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by the ways.. this is markymark aka luckyluis. thanks
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Hi,
Latest is that I ordered (if i may say purchased na coz kukunin ko pa lang sa saturday) the following
Receiver - Onkyo 701 THX (latest model)
Speakers Mission m70i series
Front - m74i 150 Watts
Front Center - m7c2 100 Watts
Rear Center - m7c1 100 Watts
Surrounds - m7ds 100 Watts
Subz - Polkaudio ps450 300 Watts
including wires/cables
all for 100,000 plus from Sonny Tuazon's The Home Theater. I would really recommend him muntik na akong makabili ng maling speakers if not for his advise. Though medyo nag over budget talaga ako, i'm pretty much satisfied kahit hindi gaanong high-end ang kinalabasan.
Congrats on your new setup.
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nice! congrats markymark/luckyluis... nakakainggit... ;D ;D
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ayos! congrats markymark. ;D
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One day to go. Congrats markymark and happy watching/listening with your new toy!!!! ;D
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congrats markymark kakainip na ba pre??? ;D ;D
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HI,
naku, ang feeling ko parang di ako ma-ihi di ma-tae hehehe
kaya lang problema pang isa, kung paano ko palalakihin ang living room namin! I am still convincing my mom to get rid of her big divider and platera tukador and i'm selling my sofa set just to accomodate a huge space of AV Living Room! hehehe
Tumawag ako kanina kay sonny tuazon and yung subz na land daw ang kulang and ready for delivery na lahat!
hayyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Hehe ;D Pa-deliver mo na tonight or tomorrow. Di ba mas OK kung staggered delivery? First go for stereo set-up, then with surrounds, then with sub. that way, you get increasing listening pleasure one after the other.
Also, it takes time to configure and wire them. up. Baka pag-deliver on Satruday, you'll spend the whole afternoon just to set-up the whole thing. Sunday ka na mag-eenjoy. ;D Just my 2 cents.
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agree ako dyan! unti unti mo na rin na be-break in ang mga speakers. ;D enjoy your new baby bro.
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Many thanks!
I'll surely rock the whole building with this setup. ;D
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hehe ingat sa "rock the building"... kagabi 11pm tinawagan ako ng guard ng building namin, nireklamo ako nung nakatira sa taas na floor.
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oo nga eh, problema ko ngayon:
MALAKING HOUSE!
hehehe
actually nagbebenta ako ng gamit, sofa set. Baka may interesado dyan! Binili ko ng 15k sa rustans last december now i'm selling it at 8K!
tapos bili ako ng maliit ng single pc chair.
here's the link:
http://www.pbase.com/luckyluis2/inbox
thanks
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Gusto mo itayo kita nga bahay na malaki. ;D
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SQDZAn8VegHoCM53J3j2QYJAo0kf29joW!4das1w!TGMUGCcz59OJVj3CynL!sDgmGwHnEj4GVhseBPhr9UhbxDXXcFMDZt5C5cpRZjOACpZOWqPYHhnUg/DSC00161.JPG?dc=4675436448366654534)
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levi, someday papagawa ako nyan, bili muna ako ng ticket ng lotto hehe. ;D
question lang po mga sir:
what's the best speaker you can buy for 10k? usage will be 100% audio.
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any member here who can give an idea which is the most musical receiver brand? some guys says that marantz is a musical receiver. others say that NAD is better in terms of music than movies. I would like to know some of your opinion cause I am more into music. thanks for any suggestions that you could share
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musical receivers rotel,nad,hk and marantz :) my opinion only po. nad is also ok for movies. if you have the money go for separates instead.
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Raycor,
NAD, Rotel, HK or go for separate 2 channel amp NAD hehehe or tube amp
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to john5479 and hans adriane
thank you sir for your suggestions, actually i heared a lot of nad users and claimed that it is great in music esp in 2 channel mode, i also heared already the rotel 2 channel amp and also sounds great in most music cd's, but for the nad, i didnt yet listen for it. well ill try to hear for myself first before judging again what is really meant for me, thank you guys...
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Raycor,
Aside from amp please consider what speaker you'll use matching din yan pre..
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feedback naman with onkyo and wharf. match ba cla? i got my wharfs already, plan to get my receiver by this wik. any suggestion will be greatly appreciated.
my option right now:
yamaha 430 palang- cheapest i canvasd is 13.8k
sorry, low budget lang. solve nako sa 5.1 setup.
thanks :)
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ok ang FIVEPOINTONE n setup, most of d dvds out der 5.1 format nman, ok yamaha430 sa movies, nakabili frend ko s greenhills s ambassador 12.5t daw kuha nya last month. meron din s sight n sound denon1403 , i think 15t lng yung price ng particular n model n yon, if u can stretch a little more mag denon kna or try to audition onkyo sr500, mga 17t n lng yata sya s market kc phaseout na
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Audition nyo NAD T742 sa Spectra. Nino told me they are selling it for 22k. Kaya lang mukang di siya sigurado. For 22k I think best buy na to.
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If you want something a bit cheaper go for HK 2250. Sarap sa tenga. Di ka inaaway ng tunog. :)
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peeps, will be purchasing my speakers soon, mission m72i as my fronts and maybe wharfs for my center and surround. will they match? coz i cant afford to have missions for my center and surround. where can you buy the cheapest wharfs? btw, will be pairing them with a yamaha620.
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cousin skeeter,
suggestion lang that you go all the way for Missions i series. You won't go wrong with it. BTW, you can contact Sonny of the home theater para sa magandang deals on Mission Speaker.
I'm enjoying my babies right now.
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peeps, will be purchasing my speakers soon, mission m72i as my fronts and maybe wharfs for my center and surround. will they match? coz i cant afford to have missions for my center and surround. where can you buy the cheapest wharfs? btw, will be pairing them with a yamaha620.
i suggest you get the mission with the front and center...this 3 must be of the same brand to achieve tonal matching.. or better yet get an 8.3 instead.. so all of your speakers would be tonally matched.. ;)
hth
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good suggestion 3 front speakrs should be same brand and series as much as possible .. i'd get 8,1 and diamond center though
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thanks, does the 530 offer anything better that the 430 of yamaha? i can get the 530 at 13,800, bnew. o mag 430 nalang ako? thanks.
ok ang FIVEPOINTONE n setup, most of d dvds out der 5.1 format nman, ok yamaha430 sa movies, nakabili frend ko s greenhills s ambassador 12.5t daw kuha nya last month. meron din s sight n sound denon1403 , i think 15t lng yung price ng particular n model n yon, if u can stretch a little more mag denon kna or try to audition onkyo sr500, mga 17t n lng yata sya s market kc phaseout na
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Cousin Skeeter,
PRe as per advice nila better yun 3 front speaker are match you'll hear the BIG difference pag iba yun center which is the most important coz dun lahat dialogue and some action.. yun surround kahit ano pwede pre from old mini compo speaker to satellite.. ako surround lang iba brand.. kung L/R speaker lang tapos surround kulang pa rin hehehe kaya yun L/R and center muna.. pero if budget permit go all the way ;D
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hans,
thanks pre pero medyo masipit talaga ang budget. anyway, just wanna know who sells the cheapest diamonds and how much? i might be going back to manila next month.
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Cousin Skeeter,
ah ok kahit yun front and center muna pre ok na yun text me pagbalik manila ka pre hehehe
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hans,
sure thing will txt you wen am there. y? u planning to let go of ur m73is? hehehe
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thanks, does the 530 offer anything better that the 430 of yamaha? i can get the 530 at 13,800, bnew. o mag 430 nalang ako? thanks.
kung yammy tlaga trip mo,at kung kya mo 530,den go 4 it,ofcourse the higher d model,d better. i think 530 is more powerful dan 430, and may s-video na
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ano kaya mas magandang brand for a receiver between pioneer and yamaha. (no specific models yet, maybe a pioneer vsx d812k or a yamaha rxv540).
maybe here pioneer got the upper hand http://reviews.cnet.com/4521-6531_7-5021436-1.html,
but lots of people are suggesting yamaha. pls enlighten me. thanks.
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archie,
i did consider the pioneer 811 and 812 before when i was hunting for a receiver and read a lot of the reviews but what turned me down is the 1% total harmonic distortion (THD) in its specs which goes to show its not audiophile quality. most receivers average around 0.1% to 0.01% THD.many of the reviews did indicate that its not good for music.
the plus side of of the 812 is it has tons of features including its multi-channel acoustic calibriation (MCACC) but most of the people here will agree that its the sound that matters, not the features. if im not mistaken, it sells for 22K. with that you should try auditioning others (marantz, HK, yamaha, denon, onkyo) before deciding. as most posts here would end, its not what others think, its what your ears "think".
on a side note, am wondering if gutierrez was able to figure out the problem for his setup. was it the receiver? cables? speakers? update nman pre :)
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ano kaya mas magandang brand for a receiver between pioneer and yamaha. (no specific models yet, maybe a pioneer vsx d812k or a yamaha rxv540).
maybe here pioneer got the upper hand http://reviews.cnet.com/4521-6531_7-5021436-1.html,
but lots of people are suggesting yamaha. pls enlighten me. thanks.
Archie,
kung ako, ill go with the Yammy anytime of the day
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That Pioneer D811/812, with its many features and flexibilities, makes a good pre-amp. At 23k, that's a lot cheaper than a dedicated preamp from Krell, Sunfire or Lexicon. It has the mulit-channel pre-out terminations that can mate with a good musical multichannel power amp or monoblocks. Just my 2 cents.
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ano kaya mas magandang brand for a receiver between pioneer and yamaha. (no specific models yet, maybe a pioneer vsx d812k or a yamaha rxv540).
maybe here pioneer got the upper hand http://reviews.cnet.com/4521-6531_7-5021436-1.html,
but lots of people are suggesting yamaha. pls enlighten me. thanks.
no doubt,go 4 yamaha..its not d features that matters,its d sound!! mas matalas tumunog ang pioneer kesa yamaha masyado lamang ang highs, besides ang yamaha sagad din sa features tsaka mas mataba sya tumunog.
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howd'ya'do?
i'm planning to put up my own HT system. What receiver would you recommend to match a speaker system consist of m71i for fronts & surround, m7c1 for center & velodyne vx10, sub?
my choices are:
-denon 1604/
-marantz sr4300/
-onkyo sr501
anybody who is willing to help, thanks 8)
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just got the rxv 530 this pm at a good price, will hook it up later with my wharfs!
salamat sa forum! ;D
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thankx guys for the inputs!
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im thinking of upgrading my speakers (again), any help would be nice....choosing among the folowing:
B&W:
601S3 - fronts
LCR60 - center
303 or 601s3 - rear
sub - any?
Acoustic Energy Aegis Evo 3 http://www.acoustic-energy.co.uk/products/aegisevo/aegisevoloudspeakers.html
AE Evo 3 - fronts
AE Evo 1 - rear
AE Evo center - center
AE Evo sub - sub
Monitor Audio http://www.monitoraudio.co.uk/products/bronze/index.htm
B2 or B4 - fronts
BFX - rear
B1 - rears
MA ASW 100 - sub
cheers!
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hello everybody, can anyone tell what is the most musical receiver cause i am planning to replace my current receiver, i am more on music, 20% on movies. my current avr is denon 1803. some say that marantz and nad are more musical and warm in music than denon and other brands. nad philosophy is "music first". any help would be very appreciated, thanks
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hello everybody, can anyone tell what is the most musical receiver cause i am planning to replace my current receiver, i am more on music, 20% on movies. my current avr is denon 1803. some say that marantz and nad are more musical and warm in music than denon and other brands. nad philosophy is "music first". any help would be very appreciated, thanks
can you consider also Harman Kardon it also give warm in music with the right combi of speaker
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hello everybody, can anyone tell what is the most musical receiver cause i am planning to replace my current receiver, i am more on music, 20% on movies. my current avr is denon 1803. some say that marantz and nad are more musical and warm in music than denon and other brands. nad philosophy is "music first". any help would be very appreciated, thanks
I have a Denon 1803 also and its good for music and movies. If you are just planning to change to other brands but with the same level, I dont think it will give you much of a difference. If you want, you can go for higher models to make it a true upgrade. You can try HK5500, Marantz 7300 or the NAD 762. just my 2 cent advise.
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sir levi,
what brand of speakers do you use in your avr? and also the players connected to it? my system is sometimes to mettallic or i should say very bright in some music cd's. can you suspect the player im using?
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Im using B&W speakers. Instead of spending more to upgrade your receiver, why dont you setup a 2 channel audio?
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Im using B&W speakers. Instead of spending more to upgrade your receiver, why dont you setup a 2 channel audio?
I Second the motion.
Sa HT di naman nagkakalayo mha tunog nila..sa Audio dun malaki ang difference
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i sometimes use to watch a movie also but not too often. so i want a system that would be great in music mode and at the same unit i can also use it in movies. i agree that two channel audio like tubes are really good in music only but cannot use it in movies. im 80% in music and 20% in movies. two in one unit so that i could save some space for cabinet and spending my money wisely. maybe the speakers that needs to be upgrade. im only using a local brand speakers
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I would suggest that you upgrade your speakers rather than changing your receiver. Changing wont give you any improvement but upgrading the speaker will give better results.
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sir levi,
what brand of speakers do you use in your avr? and also the players connected to it? my system is sometimes to mettallic or i should say very bright in some music cd's. can you suspect the player im using?
If you perceive your sound to be too "metallic" and bright sounding to your liking, there are many factors to consider. Other than the speakers, players and amps, there is also room accoustics, Often, a good sounding gear will sound too bright in a roomful of resonances caused by too much sonic reflections reaching the listener.
But you said this happens only "sometimes" with "some music cds" so can i assume correctly you are happy with the sound in MOST of your cds most of the time? If so, the culprit could be some CD labels that are not well encoded or mixed to begin with. There are many CDs, expecially the early ones, that really sound inordinately bright compared with their analog predecessors.
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FYI for those looking for entry level HT. My friend just got a Yamaha 440, Wharf Diamonds 8.1 and center, Wharf WH2 surrounds and rear center, DQ 12 sub-- all for 27k. Ambassador Makati is selling the package.
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This is a nice package...i was planning to buy the yamaha rx-v440 too but with package speaker. but i think this package is better. do you have any contact numbers? thanks, please reply naman before tuesday, kasi i will have to decide na on tuesday what to buy eh. thanks uli...
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FYI for those looking for entry level HT. My friend just got a Yamaha 440, Wharf Diamonds 8.1 and center, Wharf WH2 surrounds and rear center, DQ 12 sub-- all for 27k. Ambassador Makati is selling the package.
Pwede na. 27T for this setup.
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This is a nice package...i was planning to buy the yamaha rx-v440 too but with package speaker. but i think this package is better. do you have any contact numbers? thanks, please reply naman before tuesday, kasi i will have to decide na on tuesday what to buy eh. thanks uli...
Ambassador Makati is at 2nd floor of Goldcrest Bldg. beside Glorietta. Tel. # is 8930667 & 8930668. They have branches also at Virra Mall at Greenhills and Shangrila Mall.
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hello uli to all, have any number sa ambassador in shangrila? kasi mas malapit sa amin iyon eh, mandaluyong din ako...(sa loob ... heheh j/k)
INDRIGOLD--Sino ba iyong friend mo na nakabili ng package from ambassador? tnx
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hello uli to all, have any number sa ambassador in shangrila? kasi mas malapit sa amin iyon eh, mandaluyong din ako...(sa loob ... heheh j/k)
INDRIGOLD--Sino ba iyong friend mo na nakabili ng package from ambassador? tnx
you may inquire the number here at their other branches...
ambassador:
-greenhills= 7210905; 7214932 - beth
-makati=8930667; 8930668 - virgie
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Hi all... I am starting to build my own HT setup. I will be placing this inside my small room (yes, its pretty small). Right now, I have a Pioneer DVD player (DV-366-S) and a JVC 21" flat TV (InteriArt).
Only thing left is the audio part... can you advise on a cheap yet quality av receiver/5.1 speaker set for a small room? How much would be the estimated cost on my part? Im on a tight budget kse. Thanks all! ;D
PS. I'll try to post a pic here tom.
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pixel dog,
The previous posts before you have posted your quesry can give you an idea of a nice sounding entry level set up ;).
You just try to audition those gears to see if they suit your preference.
Thanks.
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If I have a 1803 which speaker would fit? budget ~ P22k
1. JBL SCS 178 - P21,500
2. Wharfdale Diamond 8 series - 8.1(P4,450) 8.3(P6,850) Center(P3,600) and DQ12(P6,000) = P20,900
3..any suggestion within the price range? MA, Mission...
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Garee,
Also consider for your DEnon
Mission M72i , M71i and center ( 9k + 8k + 6k )
Monitor Audio bronze - B2 + center ( 12k + 7,5K )
Note: prices are only estimate kindly confirm with the shop :)
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you may inquire the number here at their other branches...
ambassador:
-greenhills= 7210905; 7214932 - beth
-makati=8930667; 8930668 - virgie
hi philander,
does Ambassador provide good service? sounds too good to be true kasi. may warranties ba and everything?
thanks!!!
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???guys my friend is selling me his HT set-up a combination of YAMAHA-RXV800 using a Tannoy MErcury Series speakers ( MX4 for front MX1 for rear and MXc for center). Any body familiar with this AVR and speakers , kindly make a comment on its performance..by the way his selling it to me for 30K ( he bought it for AVR 24K @ speakers for 39K) ...ok lang ba? TY for any reply?
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dime_licker,
Yun sales agent lang di ok as for warranties meron naman since genuine naman goods nila
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Pre Yamaha RVX800 and Tannoy Mercury series... mmmhh panalo yan pre for 30K sa speaker palang eh jackpot ka na.. hehehehe
Tannoy mx1 I heard got very good review and won an award.. (not sure) but audition the tannoy before and have a nice warm sound..
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TNX, I'll check it kung sariwa pa...then i'll go for it... ;)
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the combo is good but u can try other option like yamaha n monitor audio
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Clarification mga bro. The 27k package pala of ambassador does not include the DQ12. My friend thought kasama and out of stock DQ12 nila. He was offered instead Konzert sub na DQ12 nakalagay sa likod. He had to pay additional 5.8k for it.
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Clarification mga bro. The 27k package pala of ambassador does not include the DQ12. My friend thought kasama and out of stock DQ12 nila. He was offered instead Konzert sub na DQ12 nakalagay sa likod. He had to pay additional 5.8k for it.
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albaikph,
Saw the Yamaha RXV800 at Rockwell... ok na ok yan pre go for it...
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Clarification mga bro. The 27k package pala of ambassador does not include the DQ12. My friend thought kasama and out of stock DQ12 nila. He was offered instead Konzert sub na DQ12 nakalagay sa likod. He had to pay additional 5.8k for it.
I am planning to go for this package but would like to hear from you guys if 27K without the DQ12 is a fair deal or would you suggest any other package. I am ready for this budget range only. Thanks everyone.
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hi... im kinda nu in ht & like most of newbie here, id like to ask some questions regarding receivers...
1. technically how do you match receiver & speakers, I mean, may nabasa po kc ako n dapat mas mataas ang wattage ng receiver kesa speaker? tama po ba ito?
2. im planing to get a marantz 4300 & a set of mission speakers(sabi nyo po kc invest on speakers e ;D :D ;D) ok n combination po ba ito. considering 70watts lng yung receiver???
3. ano p po bang mga budget speaker ang ka level ng mission in terms of their price & value
4. ano pa po bang match n receiver s mission speakers, my budget is 35k-40k lng po(recevier & speaker n budget n po yan). will use it on 70%HT & 30% audio(punk, alternative, rock)
5. saan po pedeng mg audition ng above setup beside kay sir sonny tuazon.
6. & i liv in manila, kung saan dikit2 ang mga bahay. ma-maximize ko po b yung speaker na 100 watts o bili n lng po ako ng mas mababang wattage?
sensya n po sa mga tanong, gusto ko n po kc mgkaron ng HT. na addict ako dahil s site na ito. hehehe ;D ;D ;D
thanks in advance...
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Try Spectra bro. Park Square Makati. audition mo HK and Monitor Audio.
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Arch audio pre look for Nico and Epoy... Denon, Harman Kardon, Monitor Audio, JBL and Infinity speaker 8116715 number nila..
For Mission Hyperaudio ( Rene ) sa makati pre near cash and carry 8325710
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yes u should try spectra @ parksquare 1
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???guys my friend is selling me his HT set-up a combination of YAMAHA-RXV800 using a Tannoy MErcury Series speakers ( MX4 for front MX1 for rear and MXc for center). Any body familiar with this AVR and speakers , kindly make a comment on its performance..by the way his selling it to me for 30K ( he bought it for AVR 24K @ speakers for 39K) ...ok lang ba? TY for any reply?
i think this is a winner.... assuming good conditions pa lahat. these tannoys are not easy to drive (low sensitivity) but given the correct muscle of an amp, they are very nice sounding. I would recommend at 100W RMS per ch for the receiver. Not sure about this yamaha pero mukhang hindi naman entry level yung model nos. best to listen/audition. you may not need a sub with that setup... depending on your room dimension.
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am scouting for a 5-channel power amp. something i can pair with preamp. any suggestions on this which should be locally available?
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5-channel amps that would be on your list would include Rotel. Suggest you give hyperaudio a call.
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hi there! like most of the people who posted here with queries, i am also a newbie trying to figure out what entry-level ht set-up would do for my 12 sq. m. room.
i have gone around some shops, and here are my choices:
tv: 29" Sony kv-dr29m61 drc-mf (already bought) =)
rcvr:
onkyo tx-sr501 6.1 115w/ch 6 ohms 0.08% thd @ 19k
denon avr-1604 6.1 75-110w/ch 6-8ohms 0.08%thd @20k
yamaha rx-v440 6.1 95w/ch 6 ohms 0.06%thd @18k
spkr:
mordaunt-short premiere series 15-80w rms 4-8ohms 86db 100-20khz satellite spkrs, 15-80w rms 4-8ohms 86db 100-20khz center spkr, 35-150hz 80w rms active downfire sub @ 20k
energy take 5+1 series 15-100w rms 8ohms 89db satellite spkrs, 15-100w rms 8ohms 89db center spkr, 29-100hz 100w active frontfire sub @ 34k
bose acoustimass 6 series 10 - 150w rms/ch 4-8ohms @ 26k
jbl scs178 10-100w rms 8ohms 86db 35-20khz satellite spkrs, 10-100w rms 8ohms 86db 35-20khz center spkr, 100w active downfire sub @ 25k
i am leaning more towards the onkyo-mordaunt-short combination. can you give me your opinions and inputs? would u recommend another rcvr/spkr system under the budget and along the same specs?
thank you in advance! =)
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may i suggest you also try hk avr2550.... yun nga lang 5.1 sya but i think andun sya sa mga price range ng receivers that you are considering....
you can also try kenwood and marantz receivers....
try as many receivers and speaker packages you can...
as for speakers, you can also try speakers that are not selling as packages like monitor audio, mission, wharfdale at marami pang iba...
ok lang yung onkyo at mordaunt-short package you are considering. try to audition them and let your ears decide for you. goodluck... :)
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The Onkyo will sound nicely with the Mordaunt. Just don't get a Bose. See the other thread with my rejoinder on your similar querry.
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solitude,
With your budget try to audition speaker like bookshelf than satellite some bookshelf is full range already and mas ok yun sa sound.. IMHO
AVR consider NAD also 8)
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Among these entry level recievers, which one is recommended and why:
Denon AVR-1604
Onkyo TX-SR501
Marantz SR4300
Yamaha RX-V440
Are there any other cheaper DD-EX/DTS-ES recievers you can recommended?
Im really itching to upgrade this weekend. Your advice will be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Among these entry level recievers, which one is recommended and why:
Denon AVR-1604
Onkyo TX-SR501
Marantz SR4300
Yamaha RX-V440
Are there any other cheaper DD-EX/DTS-ES recievers you can recommended?
Im really itching to upgrade this weekend. Your advice will be very much appreciated. Thanks.
you can also consider hk2550. its just only 5.1 but it sounds great. the other brands sounds great to and also have more features.
it just so happened i like hk over them. its just a matter of personal taste.
but mas importante na ma-audition mo at if you have already speakers, try to bring and test them.
for me kasi, i did also consider parts and service support.
matching also is important....
goodluck....
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you can also consider hk2550. its just only 5.1 but it sounds great. the other brands sounds great to and also have more features.
it just so happened i like hk over them. its just a matter of personal taste.
but mas importante na ma-audition mo at if you have already speakers, try to bring and test them.
for me kasi, i did also consider parts and service support.
matching also is important....
goodluck....
Thanks pre, Im really looking forward to have a 6.1 reciever. Oks naman kasi yung current 5.1 reciever ko kaya lang curious ako sa DD-EX/DTS-ES.
Wala din kasi akong time mag-audition kaya rely ako sa inputs nyo. My speakers are mission m7c1 center and m70 for front and rears.
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Thanks pre, Im really looking forward to have a 6.1 reciever. Oks naman kasi yung current 5.1 reciever ko kaya lang curious ako sa DD-EX/DTS-ES.
Wala din kasi akong time mag-audition kaya rely ako sa inputs nyo. My speakers are mission m7c1 center and m70 for front and rears.
bro...ako 3-brands lang...
marantz
harman kardon
NAD
...just check their A/V receiver models...sa akin, ok ang marantz 4300, 5300 and 6300...NAD T752 and T762...also the HK receivers...thanks and enjoy the HUNT! 8)
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bro...ako 3-brands lang...
marantz
harman kardon
NAD
...just check their A/V receiver models...sa akin, ok ang marantz 4300, 5300 and 6300...NAD T752 and T762...also the HK receivers...thanks and enjoy the HUNT! 8)
Thanks pre, talaga pro-marantz ka. Actually, maganda nga yung feedback dito nun.
May silver bang marantz 4300 para matching sa setup ko? Ang alam ko yung 4400 lang ang meron eh.
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Is marantz SR4400 already available there? Any reviews? Heto nga pala yung specs.
http://www.grobi-die-grossbildspezialisten.de/downloads/range_sr4400(1).pdf (http://www.grobi-die-grossbildspezialisten.de/downloads/range_sr4400(1).pdf)
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hi! just wanted to share with you guys why i am also considering the yamaha rx-v440 receiver. it bagged the ht receiver award by the EISA for 2003-04.
this is what they said:
Home Theatre Receiver YAMAHA RX-V440
Yamaha’s RX-V440 is a true all-rounder. Technologically it caters for every possible need of the modern AV system, with Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES 6.1 and Dolby ProLogic II processing. In connectivity, too, it’s exceptionally accomplished, with six channels of power amplification addressable by myriad analogue and digital inputs - including six analogue inputs to accommodate multichannel SACD and DVD-Audio. It’s easy to set up and use, always sounds natural and agile, and underwrites its talents with an extraordinarily attractive price.
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Anong receiver may Zone 2 na less than 30k? Meron kaya?
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US/European version of Yamaha's RX-V640. What was the function of Zone 2, i think parang output lang sya to other receiver in a remote location, can Rec out, MO out and VCR out be a subtitute for this function?
Thanks,
-LtCool-
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US/European version of Yamaha's RX-V640. What was the function of Zone 2, i think parang output lang sya to other receiver in a remote location, can Rec out, MO out and VCR out be a subtitute for this function?
Thanks,
-LtCool-
The advantage of zone 2 is that you can play a different source from the main at the same time. You can listen to a CD player at zone 2 while someone is watching DVD in the main room using a single reciever. Most of the time you would need an amplifier to connect the zone 2 preout but in some cases you can use the built in 6 and 7th channel of your reciever for zone 2.
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hi! just wanted to share with you guys why i am also considering the yamaha rx-v440 receiver. it bagged the ht receiver award by the EISA for 2003-04.
this is what they said:
Home Theatre Receiver YAMAHA RX-V440
Yamaha’s RX-V440 is a true all-rounder. Technologically it caters for every possible need of the modern AV system, with Dolby Digital EX, DTS-ES 6.1 and Dolby ProLogic II processing. In connectivity, too, it’s exceptionally accomplished, with six channels of power amplification addressable by myriad analogue and digital inputs - including six analogue inputs to accommodate multichannel SACD and DVD-Audio. It’s easy to set up and use, always sounds natural and agile, and underwrites its talents with an extraordinarily attractive price.
These features are also available from other brands. Dont choose a reciever just because it won the EISA award. What is important is to compare and choose the best.
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hello everybody,
may i ask what brands of speakers are best match to denon 1803? preferably floorstanders use in a living room with a size of 3x3x4 meters?
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What is your budget? IMO these will match your denon, Mission M73 and B&W 603. I heard the Monitor Audio and it is a very good speaker but I have not tried matching it with Denon.
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The advantage of zone 2 is that you can play a different source from the main at the same time. You can listen to a CD player at zone 2 while someone is watching DVD in the main room using a single reciever. Most of the time you would need an amplifier to connect the zone 2 preout but in some cases you can use the built in 6 and 7th channel of your reciever for zone 2.
Thanks sir levi,
Sayang pala yung ganung feature sa 640 ko, kasi walang zone 2 yung version dito sa SE Asian region, cguro to cut the cost of production pero bakit parang parehas lang yung SRP nila sa US at dito? Hindi ba parang racial discrimination nanaman.
Thanks,
-LtCool-
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hello everybody,
may i ask what brands of speakers are best match to denon 1803? preferably floorstanders use in a living room with a size of 3x3x4 meters?
the room is a bit small so maybe a bookshelf/standmount would be more suitable, so far the B&W DM303 is well tested to run with the 1803, for the floorstanders, i would recommend the Mission M73i
...both speakers, esp the Missions are really cheap nowadays
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to sir levi,
my budget sir is below 25t. i have an idea about the monitor audio b8, b and w 603, and definitive tech BP8 but dont know if those would best fit for my taste. what speakers do you used sir levi?
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to sir kimera,
how much na po yung mission m73i? and what are the specs?
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I don't know if I'm going a bit OT here, but just to comment on the first question of PLiSKiN:
"1. technically how do you match receiver & speakers, I mean, may nabasa po kc ako n dapat mas mataas ang wattage ng receiver kesa speaker? tama po ba ito?"
AFAIK, what you should be more careful of is the Minimum Power Handling of your speakers, and not the maximum. Why? It is because low powered amps would have to work extra hard to keep up with power-hungry speakers, and would eventually 'clip.' This clipping is especially harmful to the high frequency driver. So, beware of matching a power hungry speaker with a low-powered amp, considering the speaker's Minimum Power Handling spec, and your amp's rated output, with all channels driven. And as for the maximum, well, you probably would have to bleed your ears to reach it.. hehehe.. Know the limitations of your gear. :)
JBL has a technical note on this one, you can check their website for a more detailed explanation.
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to sir levi,
my budget sir is below 25t. i have an idea about the monitor audio b8, b and w 603, and definitive tech BP8 but dont know if those would best fit for my taste. what speakers do you used sir levi?
Im using B&W602S3. If that is your budget then Mission would be your best bet.
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@raycor: check out the specs from their site www.mission.co.uk, for the price, we can get it at £100 here so that's roughly 8K php...really cheap for a kick a$$ floorstanders....but take note, this spkrs delivers good bass as well and might sound boomy on your room, anyway spkr placement would help :-)
just to add to what Heropsychodreamer said, lower powered (compared to the spkrs) receiver/amps at full volume would just emit noise and this is what damages the speakers...imo
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to sir levi and sir kimera,
thanks for all your support. i'll check for the mission speakers.. :)
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Among these entry level recievers, which one is recommended and why:
Denon AVR-1604
Onkyo TX-SR501
Marantz SR4300
Yamaha RX-V440
Are there any other cheaper DD-EX/DTS-ES recievers you can recommended?
Im really itching to upgrade this weekend. Your advice will be very much appreciated. Thanks.
After much deliberation and research, I have decided not to buy any of these models I'm eyeing previously. Instead, I bought Marantz SR4400 today which costs me around 500sgd.
This latest model got 6.1 ch input/output which makes it flexible for future upgrades.
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After much deliberation and research, I have decided not to buy any of these models I'm eyeing previously. Instead, I bought Marantz SR4400 today which costs me around 500sgd.
This latest model got 6.1 ch input/output which makes it flexible for future upgrades.
CONGRATS, Bro. JT!!! 8)
does it also have pre-outs like the 4300, 5300 models???
enjoy your new receiver! 8)
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CONGRATS, Bro. JT!!! 8)
does it also have pre-outs like the 4300, 5300 models???
enjoy your new receiver! 8)
Yup, it comes with a 6.1 pre-outs para pwedeng bumili ng poweramp later on to increase power. Siya lang nga yung may ganun of all the entry level reciever. At 6.1 din ang input niya in case may maglalabas ng dvd player na may 6.1 out.
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Yup, it comes with a 6.1 pre-outs para pwedeng bumili ng poweramp later on to increase power. Siya lang nga yung may ganun of all the entry level reciever. At 6.1 din ang input niya in case may maglalabas ng dvd player na may 6.1 out.
CONGRATS again!...sent you a PM, bro! 8)
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hello everybody,
may i ask lang po if a center speaker is capable also for surround back channel esp in a 6.1 receiver? will the center speaker produce an ambience signal either matrix or discrete signal? thanks po :)
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hello everybody,
may i ask lang po if a center speaker is capable also for surround back channel esp in a 6.1 receiver?
Yes.
will the center speaker produce an ambience signal either matrix or discrete signal? thanks po :)
Source-dependent. Your speaker will sound matrix with matrix endoded disc/s and will sound discrete with discrete signal encoded disc/s.
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philander,
thanks for sharing your knowlegde,
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hi! Im planning to build my home theater in a few months, any suggestions for speakers and AVR? My budget for the speakers (im thinking 6.1) is around 80000.
Not yet sure for the budget on the AVR...have no idea pa kasi. But Im eyeing the Kenwood Soveriegn series (because its looks nice) ;D .
(http://www.kenwoodusa.com/content/product/image/large/vr-5700.jpg)
But would you guys happen to know if its a good choice? Any suggestion pa sa AVR? Preferably yung medyo matagal pa bago mag-upgrade. Thanks in advance.
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hello, what avr is known to be good in ht? I know audition is the best suggestion but I just wan't to get some opinions.
ty :)
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hi! Im planning to build my home theater in a few months, any suggestions for speakers and AVR? My budget for the speakers (im thinking 6.1) is around 80000.
Not yet sure for the budget on the AVR...have no idea pa kasi. But Im eyeing the Kenwood Soveriegn series (because its looks nice) ;D .
(http://www.kenwoodusa.com/content/product/image/large/vr-5700.jpg)
But would you guys happen to know if its a good choice? Any suggestion pa sa AVR? Preferably yung medyo matagal pa bago mag-upgrade. Thanks in advance.
I think it's kinda good receiver but according to the picture this one has only 5.1 speaker output. no surround center.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
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hello, what avr is known to be good in ht? I know audition is the best suggestion but I just wan't to get some opinions.
ty :)
If it's HT try auditioning yamaha. but for music you need to invest on power amps.
Kampay,
-LtCool-
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If it's HT try auditioning yamaha. but for music you need to invest on power amps.
Kampay,
-LtCool-
thanks for the reply,
in what terms yamaha good in movies? I read somewhere in this forum that yamaha is kinda flimsy on bass, how would I resolve that if I go with yamaha?
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Jubei,
Actually, based on the picture, this VR-5700 is a 7.1 Channel Receiver but you have to use an external amp to power the 2 Surround Back.
The Speaker Terminals only supports 5 speakers + 2 Speakers for Zone 2.
Dami Inputs ha. Gold Plated pa connections. I think this is good. But you have to audition it yourself and compare it with other brands. I have a KENWOOD 9060D (VR - 6070) connected to MS Speakers.
And the Strrong Point about my Receiver is a very clean power even at high volume. Other Receivers just distort at high volume.
Ask inputs from fellow pinoydvders then audition it yourself.
By the way, here is the link to the VR-5700 Review I found on the net.
http://www.audiorevolution.com/equip/kenwoodvr5700/
http://www.hometheatermag.com/receivers/104/index1.html
http://www.hometheatermag.com/receivers/104/index2.html
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hi! Im planning to build my home theater in a few months, any suggestions for speakers and AVR? My budget for the speakers (im thinking 6.1) is around 80000.
Not yet sure for the budget on the AVR...have no idea pa kasi. But Im eyeing the Kenwood Soveriegn series (because its looks nice) ;D .
But would you guys happen to know if its a good choice? Any suggestion pa sa AVR? Preferably yung medyo matagal pa bago mag-upgrade. Thanks in advance.
IMO, with your budget for speakers my option would be Monitor A or B&W and velodyne subs. I dont think you will need any upgrade with these speakers. For receivers I would choose Denon 2803 or 3803, Onkyo 7 series or Harman Kardon 5500( you will need an amplifier for the surround back unless the 5550 will be available). A good AVR would cost you 30 to 50T.
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pls excuse my ignorance, i'm new to this. Used to own an HTIB lang kasi. Pero para san yung amp? Meron bang mga AVR na di na kelangan ng amp to get 6.1 or 7.1 surround?
and sir levi, what model ng B&W ang ok and pasok sa budget? hirap din pala mag setup ng HT.... :)
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thanks for the reply,
in what terms yamaha good in movies? I read somewhere in this forum that yamaha is kinda flimsy on bass, how would I resolve that if I go with yamaha?
IMO, yamaha has lots of DSP and clear on highs and mids sound reproduction on movies, with regards to bass get a speaker with a good bass or install a sub. maybe they match a power hungry speaker so the amp can't supply continuos nominal power to the speaker. Though you should audition first before opting to buy.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
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pls excuse my ignorance, i'm new to this. Used to own an HTIB lang kasi. Pero para san yung amp? Meron bang mga AVR na di na kelangan ng amp to get 6.1 or 7.1 surround?
and sir levi, what model ng B&W ang ok and pasok sa budget? hirap din pala mag setup ng HT.... :)
let me clear things up.
an amplifier is the device that will amplify the sound to be fed to the speakers. A receiver is an amplifier with built in tuner but will only do audio switching. Audio switching because receiver only process audio like CD, Tuner, Turntable, Tapedeck. An AVR is also a receiver but it has video switching capabilities. This is where you choose what input, like VCD, DVD, VHS, Laser etc. AVR can be 5.1, 6.1 or even 7.1 that means it has a 5,6 or 7 channel processing and built in multichannel amplifiers. In some cases like the HK5500, it has a built in 5 channel amplifier but it can process upto 6 and 7 channel but it needs an external amp to power the 6th and 7th channel. In the case of the Denon 3803, it has a built in 7 channel amplifier. All you need is to get seven speakers.
You could check out the 300 and the 600 B&W series.
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jubei:
try the denon 2803 or marantz 7300 or HK3550
for your b&W speakers, with that budget, id say you get the 601s3 fronts, LCR60 center and 600s3 rears
whatever's left should go primarily for your sub, cables and maybe additional 600s3 for a 7.1 system (a rear center is good enough for a 6.1 though not scaleable)
hope this helps
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Jubiei,
That Kenwood receiver you are considering is probably one of, if not the handsomest looking receiver I've seen in the local market. If features and sonics are equal with the others in the price point, I'd go for it. Have read the reviews and the features are excellent and provide good future-proofing.
But do check-out the Onkyo flagship model which I think falls in the same price range, about 120T, if not mistaken.
For speakers, I suggest that you audition the Jamo and Mordaunt-Shorts at the 5th Ave which are on sale with 40% and 25% off, respectively. You can have a good HT set for slightly less than 50T on the Mordaunt. Likewise, do check-out the more epxensive and well-reviewed KEF Q series at Park Square which retails for about 50T a pair of floorstanders (the Q7 model), and about 16T for bookshelf.
Just my 2 cents.
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thanks for the suggestions mga bros!! almost limitless pala options pag dating sa HT. Ang hirap magdecide.
How about the Onkyo TX-NR801. I think its a new model.
(http://www.onkyousa.com/images/products/Receiver/TXNR801.jpg)
Here are the features:
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-NR801&p=f&class=Receiver (http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-NR801&p=f&class=Receiver)
As for the spekers, id like sana may floorstanders. Willing to up the budget some more.
How about monitor audio bronze series? ok daw yun sabi sa isang thread. O yung silver series kaya, if the budget permits. :)
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If you can stretch further you speaker budget then go for the B&W 603 or 602.5, LCR 60/600 and B&W 600/601. You can also go for the Bronze series Monitor Audio and for your savings, you can still get a velodyne subwoofer. IMO I would get that Onkyo over the kenwood.
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Jubei,
may i suggest that you consider harman kardon 4550 (meron na dto) which is 7.1 channel and i think you don't need a separate amp,
budget wise : monitor audio bronze series (fronts : B4, center : B Centre, Surround : B2, Surround back : B2 or B1) and velodyne sub... available sila sa Architectural Audio (811-6715)....
suggest also : audition po...
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thanks for the suggestions mga bros!! almost limitless pala options pag dating sa HT. Ang hirap magdecide.
How about the Onkyo TX-SR801. I think its a new model.
Here are the features:
http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-NR801&p=f&class=Receiver (http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=TX-NR801&p=f&class=Receiver)
As for the spekers, id like sana may floorstanders. Willing to up the budget some more.
How about monitor audio bronze series? ok daw yun sabi sa isang thread. O yung silver series kaya, if the budget permits. :)
Being an Onkyo user happy with the sounds it makes, I would recommend Onkyo over Kenwood. But both brands do have a great history of making msuical reproduction equipment.
If not mistaken this Onkyo 900 sieries goes for about 120T at the B&W shop in Shangri-la.
If you can reguarly have extra pesoses over the next 3 months, I would suggest you start with a good stereo speaker pair. One rule I follow is that what is good for music is good for HT. But not the reverse. You may want to audition the previous generation B&W nautilus 803 floorstander that goes for 85T at B&W Shangri. Then get the nautilus center speaker going for about 26T from the same store. I think you can get some discounts if you get these together with the Onkyo they are selling as well. Lastly, you can get either a Nautilus rear bookself speakers or some B&W 602s for the 6th and 7th channels. These last 4 bookshelf speakers could set you back by another 100T which you can save up for later. Just my 2 cents. Lastly, allocate anywhere from 26T to 50T for a good subwoofer. I think a REL subwoofer would go further up for about 70T for its cheapest line.
PS
If your budget for the HT reciever is in the 120T range, I'd go for a ROTEL multi-channel receiver which i think goes for 122T at one of the AV shops at Park Square. I think this is much better reviewed than the flagship Onkyo HT receiver. Do audition them.
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James16, would you know how much ang HK 4550?
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Sir Levi, what would you recommend (Floorstander speakers), B&W or the MA pair with a yammy? What was the SRP of each brand?
Thanks,
-LtCool-
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Being an Onkyo user happy with the sounds it makes, I would recommend Onkyo over Kenwood. But both brands do have a great history of making msuical reproduction equipment.
If not mistaken this Onkyo 900 sieries goes for about 120T at the B&W shop in Shangri-la.
If you can reguarly have extra pesoses over the next 3 months, I would suggest you start with a good stereo speaker pair. One rule I follow is that what is good for music is good for HT. But not the reverse. You may want to audition the previous generation B&W nautilus 803 floorstander that goes for 85T at B&W Shangri. Then get the nautilus center speaker going for about 26T from the same store. I think you can get some discounts if you get these together with the Onkyo they are selling as well. Lastly, you can get either a Nautilus rear bookself speakers or some B&W 602s for the 6th and 7th channels. These last 4 bookshelf speakers could set you back by another 100T which you can save up for later. Just my 2 cents. Lastly, allocate anywhere from 26T to 50T for a good subwoofer. I think a REL subwoofer would go further up for about 70T for its cheapest line.
PS
If your budget for the HT reciever is in the 120T range, I'd go for a ROTEL multi-channel receiver which i think goes for 122T at one of the AV shops at Park Square. I think this is much better reviewed than the flagship Onkyo HT receiver. Do audition them.
120T ba budget for a receiver?, I cant find it. Anyway You have to clear first what size is your room and how do you see your HT several years from now? Another thing is your total budget and will you use it for audio also because I would still recommend a separate system. Dont overspend for something you wont need like a 300T B&W 803 unless you want to splurge or you can get it for 85T. AV_Phile are you sure with your prices, ako na bibili nyan. Nautilus Center for 26T? Mura na yon, what I know around 100T yon and its hard to use the 602 for the surround, its too big, trust me, I have those speakers. If you can give me an answer Jubei on my questions then I can give you a realistic explanation. just my 1 cent advise.
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Sir Levi, what would you recommend (Floorstander speakers), B&W or the MA pair with a yammy? What was the SRP of each brand?
Thanks,
-LtCool-
I was not able to try to connect my Yamaha with my B&W floorstander but i was able to hear woodie's setup. I can say the B&W is a good speaker for the yammie. I dont have any experience with MA with Yammie so I cant give you my comment. I think the B&W 602.5 is 30T while the 603 is 40T plus. The MAB4 is 20 plus but please verify the prices with Architectural Audio. They sell both brands, just bring your amp and compare.
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James16, would you know how much ang HK 4550?
sori, at ngayon lang ako nakapag-online ulit... mga between Php 38+ up to 40k ang price nyan...
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think the B&W 602.5 is 30T while the 603 is 40T plus.
boss levi, is that price for a pair or just one speaker?
shalom :)
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120T ba budget for a receiver?, I cant find it. Anyway You have to clear first what size is your room and how do you see your HT several years from now? Another thing is your total budget and will you use it for audio also because I would still recommend a separate system. Dont overspend for something you wont need like a 300T B&W 803 unless you want to splurge or you can get it for 85T. AV_Phile are you sure with your prices, ako na bibili nyan. Nautilus Center for 26T? Mura na yon, what I know around 100T yon and its hard to use the 602 for the surround, its too big, trust me, I have those speakers. If you can give me an answer Jubei on my questions then I can give you a realistic explanation. just my 1 cent advise.
ok guys, lets clear things up. I didn't say na my budget for the receiver is 120K. Maybe they got that idea kasi yung Kenwood receiver has a MSRP of $2000 sa website nila, but on other sites, they're just selling it for mga $1000-1100. My cousin in the US got that same Kenwood receiver for $1100...brand new and not refurbished.
The Onkyo TX-NR801 naman retails for $999.00 which is cheaper than the previous TX-NR901. And malamang i'll take sir levi's advice and get the Onkyo nalang over the Kenwood.
More or less, here the breakedown of the budget:
P40000-P50000 for the receiver
P80000-P125000 for the speakers. (6.1 sana)
kung may sobra...id like to get a good DVD player. Maybe a Denon, kahit ano but preferably yung may changer kasi mahilig ako mag movie marathon eh.
right now, yung room size ko is around 12 x 12 feet. pro down the line, i will extend this to mga 24 x 12 feet, Sasakupin ko na din pati yung kabilang room. Kaya ayoko na sana mag upgrade by then.
Ok? thank you in advance for your suggestions. Gusto ko kasi sana meron na kong mga ideas before I go to AV shops to audition kaya this forum is very helpul to a newbie like me. Salamat po! :)
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Hi, a budget of 40 to 50 could get you an Onkyo 801, Denon 3803 or Harman 5550. Im not sure about the marantz and yammie equivalent. Try to audition first these receivers and see which one do you prefer. Im not saying these are the best but you are safe with these choices. All of these are more than enough for your room even if you decide to expand in the future. Im building a 100 sq meter hometheater for someone now and Im not even considering these receivers but since you said that this is your budget I think these will give value for your money. For speakers you can check out B&W 600 series , Monitor Audio silver series, Infinity, and a lot more. Again you have to audition to know which one you like and what will match the receiver. For subwoofer you can try the Velodyne,B&W, Definitive or Infinity. I suggest you try to visit Architectural Audio and they can give you a better advise. They have an extensive line that you can choose from. Are you here in the Philippines? You are quoting in dollars?
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Jubei,
Piece of Advice before you get your Onkyo.
This is not to bash Onkyo Receivers but I have a copy of June, 2003 Issue of S & V Magazine and TX - NR 901 is featured there which is a higher model than your target TX - NR 801.
Lab Test results show the 901 clipping at 56 Watts on Stereo and 54 Watts all channels driven. Specs show that the 901 has 100 Watts per channel. Unfortunately it couldn't reach its rated power based on results by
S & V.
Q:
"So, what if it's not reaching its rated power?"
A:
Bro, baka mahinaan ka sa tunog. Besides, with this, your receiver may not provide the dynamics required by some movie scenes. Medyo manipis tumunog ika nga.
If this is the 901, what more kung 801 na.
If this power issue does not concern you, then get 801. Try other brands muna at baka mahinaan or manipisan ka sa 801.
Cheers.
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More or less, here the breakedown of the budget:
P40000-P50000 for the receiver
P80000-P125000 for the speakers. (6.1 sana)
nice budget sir, kung ganyan ang budget napaka daming options.
6-speaker set + big sub:
- Mission m5 series..... P120k
- Monitor Audio Bronze + Velodyne sub...... P73k
- Mordaunt Short 900 series..... P62k
- PSB Image series..... ?
- B&W series 3..... ?
- Energy connoiseur..... ?
- KEF Q series.... ?
Receiver + amp:
- NAD T773.... ? (the one mentioned in The Italian Job?)
- Harman Kardon AVR-5500 + PA-2000 power amp..... P45k
how about a separate amp for audio and HT? if i had a stereo music amp, i'd check out yamaha as my HT amp.
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Jubie,
With your budget.. like Akyatbundok said you can also consider 2 separate setup and I think you'll enjoy it more..
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With the budget for the receiver, I'll consider the following:
HK 5550
Marantz 7300 OSE (or the incoming *400 model as long as it is OSE, with HDCD & DTS 96/24).
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120T ba budget for a receiver?, I cant find it. Anyway You have to clear first what size is your room and how do you see your HT several years from now? Another thing is your total budget and will you use it for audio also because I would still recommend a separate system. Dont overspend for something you wont need like a 300T B&W 803 unless you want to splurge or you can get it for 85T. AV_Phile are you sure with your prices, ako na bibili nyan. Nautilus Center for 26T? Mura na yon, what I know around 100T yon and its hard to use the 602 for the surround, its too big, trust me, I have those speakers. If you can give me an answer Jubei on my questions then I can give you a realistic explanation. just my 1 cent advise.
I think that B&W nautilus lfoorstander I saw was an earlier generation model, not the newer 300T+ with the spherical housing for the mids. Well, the B&W salesman at shangri said it was an earlier nautilus.
So the budget isn't as I high as I was initially impressed with. Thanks Jubiei for clarifying. And if what nels76 said was true, i'd have second thoughts getting an Onkyo
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i am using a 6 channel receiver and i enjoy listening to music on a 6 channel stereo mode. i bought several small speakers which i intended to use as my surrounds. ang napansin ko lang when i tried using smaller speakers for my surrounds and put my receiver on a 6 channel stereo, hindi maganda ang balance. very prominent pa rin ang fronts kahit anong signal equalization ang ginawa ko na sa receiver ko.
One reason, kahit pantay sila lahat in terms of the mids and highs, konti lang ang bass na lumalabas sa small surround speakers.
to attain the balance i want, i placed back my big old speakers again as surrounds, and voila! lumabas ang sound na gusto for music. maybe for a 6 channel receiver, it would be best if we place similar speakers in all of the channels. yun nga lang, ang hirap e-install ang malalaking speakers when we use it as surrounds.
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i am using a 6 channel receiver and i enjoy listening to music on a 6 channel stereo mode. i bought several small speakers which i intended to use as my surrounds. ang napansin ko lang when i tried using smaller speakers for my surrounds and put my receiver on a 6 channel stereo, hindi maganda ang balance. very prominent pa rin ang fronts kahit anong signal equalization ang ginawa ko na sa receiver ko.
One reason, kahit pantay sila lahat in terms of the mids and highs, konti lang ang bass na lumalabas sa small surround speakers.
to attain the balance i want, i placed back my big old speakers again as surrounds, and voila! lumabas ang sound na gusto for music. maybe for a 6 channel receiver, it would be best if we place similar speakers in all of the channels. yun nga lang, ang hirap e-install ang malalaking speakers when we use it as surrounds.
This is precisely the reason why the appreciation of multi-channel DVD-Audio and SACD requires all 5 speakers to be identical.
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I think that B&W nautilus lfoorstander I saw was an earlier generation model, not the newer 300T+ with the spherical housing for the mids. Well, the B&W salesman at shangri said it was an earlier nautilus.
So the budget isn't as I high as I was initially impressed with. Thanks Jubiei for clarifying. And if what nels76 said was true, i'd have second thoughts getting an Onkyo
I always go there but i never saw that nautilus. I maybe wrong or baka timing lang pagpunta mo. Kay Sonny meron pa pero fronts lang.
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boss levi, is that price for a pair or just one speaker?
shalom :)
Pair. Estimated price lang yon.
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I always go there but i never saw that nautilus. I maybe wrong or baka timing lang pagpunta mo. Kay Sonny meron pa pero fronts lang.
Saw last weekend what the salesman said was a nautilus floorstander right beside the Mark Levinson (Red Rose?) speaker set-up fronting the cashier. Previous generation daw. It was that redwood floorstander with a tweeter jutting out atop the cabinet.
You're right, after some research on the B&W web site, it's either the CDM NT or the 700 series. Not the 800 Nautilus which cost mroe than 300T at Listening. My apologies. I just took the salesman's word for it
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mga boss,
ano bang AVR ngayon ang pasok sa 15K budget?
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mga boss,
ano bang AVR ngayon ang pasok sa 15K budget?
Yamaha 440: 15.5K
15K below:
Yamaha 340, 430, 530
Denon 1403, 1603 and 1404 (?)
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mga boss,
ano bang AVR ngayon ang pasok sa 15K budget?
You can also get a Marantz SR4300. Check some post here selling around that price.
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what models and price for entry-level of the ff brands?
Onkyo
Yahama
Denon
minimum is 5.1 dd/dts
will bundle them with Daiichi's DTX slim line.
thanks.
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Hi GUys,
I'm new in this Pinoy forum. I'm planning to get a home theatre pretty soon and am very interested in the Pioneer DV-566K player, Yamaha RX-V440 receiver and a set of NS-236 Yamaha satelite speakers + woofer.
Anyone has any comments about this setup?
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Looks mighty fine to me. If you've heard them and is thrilled by them, get them. But it would also be good idea to scout and listen around just to make sure what you are aiming for is the best for you that your money can buy. Just my 2 cents.
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how much will that combo cost? how much are you willing to spend? some members might suggest what to them are better combo's , others might point you towards stores with better prices ;)
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anybody tried listening to those Chass Club speakers at upscale audio in megamall? the finish seem first rate but the price is very competitive coz its made in china.
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I have not got the chance to listen to the setup coz i can't find one outlet that have all those items in stock to be auditioned.
In a way, I'm taking a bet but it should be a safe bet due to the following reasons:
1. Pioneer is well known for their dvd players.
2. Yamaha award winning amp shud match with their own speakers. That's why I pick the same brand for amp and speakers.
btw, I'm in Malaysia. The price of the whole set shud be around RM2000 which is my budget.
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Hi mooncake2
You could try a google search on the specific brand and model and see what reviews are out there. This can give you some insights on those products. But ofcourse, only your ears can confrim what they say about a product.
In my experience, it is not necessary to have the same brand of speakers to mate with the ammp/receiver. It's safe for sure. But i'd go for the best speakers my budget can buy and that may not be of the same brand as my amp. And vice-versa. Manufacturers who specialize onlyon one type of product , like speakers, have been known to deliver more for the buck. Just my 2 cents.
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1. Pioneer is well known for their dvd players.
You may want to visit this site for some DVD benchmark shootout but for progressive scan
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=&manufacturer=0&maxprice=0&deInt=0&mpeg=0
Kinda slow to load but just be patient. It's a large page.
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Hi GUys,
I'm new in this Pinoy forum. I'm planning to get a home theatre pretty soon and am very interested in the Pioneer DV-566K player, Yamaha RX-V440 receiver and a set of NS-236 Yamaha satelite speakers + woofer.
Anyone has any comments about this setup?
Why not get a universal dvd player insteadd like Pioneer 667A?
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av_phile,
Thanks for that link.
While the article is very informative, I would not base a DVD player buying decision on it. The value of some of the criteria will inevitably be based on personal preferences. For example, I personally think the chroma bug is given too much importance, and such things as color fidelity, saturation, black levels, and other aspects of overall picture quality are not given enough weight.
For example, if you just look at the results, it might seem that the Krell Standard and Bravo D1 are not good players, both of which are highly rated by videophiles.
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Slowhand,
That benchmark was just what it is. A technical comparison on what the techies consider to be their criteria for good DVD players in the progressive scan mode. Nothing personal or subjective.
It can also be very revealling. Like that hi-end Theta DVD player that is just a repacked Pioneer but priced tenfold.
I also wouldn't base my buying decisions SOELY on such benchmarks. There are other factors I'd consider not in that benchmark which can be on the personal domain. Whether they are more important r not, i leave that to the beholder. But such benchmarks give technical insights especially when you've narrowed down your choices to a few that seems to perform identically with the unaided eyes or ears. It's an aid, nothing more. What makes such bechmarks credible is the apparent effort with which the evaluators spent on so many brands without any advertising influence form the manufactruers. OR so it seems.
Just my 2 cents.
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sirs,
quick Poll lang.
entry level
yamaha vs onkyo vs denon vs kenwood vs pioneer...
which do you prefer and why? (one line answer only)
thanks
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when i scouted for a receiver i considered the price and the feature it offers. it really depends on what u r really into..there are receivers good for music and there are those good for movies. M more into movies so with the features of the pioneer vsxd811s-s, and its price, i grabbed that. They say that pioneer receivers and those other japan models are mostly on the BRIGHT side. But later i discovered that it is very appropriate to the kind of music i like. I like big band music and enjoy the concerts of Barry Manilow, tom jones, engelbert, paul anka, or robbie williams. they are all accompanied by fabulous big band orchestra, mga pang-inuman type--hehe! ;D
i dont want the sound of the cymbal sometimes comin from the surrounds when ur into 5.1 or 7.1 setup. this model of pioneer has 6-stereo option where the sound of a two-channel stereo system is divided equally to all 6 channels, and the sound is pumped by equal wattage of 120 w. so if ur sittin on the sweet spot, u feel that ur really in the middle.
If ur more into Music and u like the songs of JOSH GROBAN and the like, maybe pioneer would not be good for you bro.
In other words, blend the gears u buy with the type of guy u r. ;D
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Exactly Jerix.
All gears you should be buying should depend on your taste.
By the way, talking of the Pioneer Receiver VSX - D811S - may nakita na ko successor ata niya which is VSX - D812S. This 812S is already equipped with MCACC whichis like EZ Set ng HK.
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av_phile: thanks for the link... looks like there's onli 1 pioneer player on test there and it failed terrible (it's an expensive pioneer player, btw!) One think is that I'm not sure we could actually tell the difference when watching a dvd movie with regard to all the tests that was done...
Another thing, any specialised speaker manufacturer that u can recommend for an av setup?
philander: I figured a separate player, amp combo (esp with the yamaha amp) is more worth it and sounds better compared to a 2-in-1 built in player+amp.
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mooncake2,
will it be used mainly for music or ht? yamahas are excellent in ht, one of the best due to their being very bright. i owned a yamaha620 before and i enjoyed watching dvds with it. the downside is that, for me, they sound terrible in music. reason why i sold my yamaha ang got me a harman kardon. the hk gives me the best of both worlds, can compete with the yamaha on movies, but truly excellent in music. best advice, try auditioning them and bring along your favorite cds. if they sound great for you then by all means get them :) :)
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mooncake2,
will it be used mainly for music or ht? yamahas are excellent in ht, one of the best due to their being very bright. i owned a yamaha620 before and i enjoyed watching dvds with it. the downside is that, for me, they sound terrible in music. reason why i sold my yamaha ang got me a harman kardon. the hk gives me the best of both worlds, can compete with the yamaha on movies, but truly excellent in music. best advice, try auditioning them and bring along your favorite cds. if they sound great for you then by all means get them :) :)
;D ;D ;D
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It really depends on your preference whether your system will be used mainly for HT or Music.
IMO and based on the suggestions of others:
70%HT / 30% Music - Yamaha
50%HT/50% Music - HK, Denon
30%HT / 70% Music - Marantz, Onkyo
Of course we're talking about avrs belonging to the same price/model range. ;D
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philander: I figured a separate player, amp combo (esp with the yamaha amp) is more worth it and sounds better compared to a 2-in-1 built in player+amp.
I am referring with stand-alone player (player only no amp, not HTIB), that plays SACD, DVD-Audio, CD, SVCD, DVD-Video, MP3 and JPEGs.
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Hi Jerix,
Try borrowing sound level meter (like Radio Shack Sound Level Meter) to balance the sound from all your speakers at listening position. I was able to borrow from my officemate and adjusted the sound level of each speaker via the avr and use BB King's Riding With The King DVD-Audio and Boyz II Men II DTS-CD for testing and now they're balance and more enjoyable. Just a suggestion. Maybe OT.
losi_phile
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MASAKIT na ULO ko he..he
Denon 1404 or HK entry level or Onkyo Entry level?
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Kimpoy,
Hk ako pre!! ;D ;D ;D
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Kimpoy,
Hk ako pre!! ;D ;D ;D
kimpoy,
I agree with hans adriene, HK din... Movie/Music - 50/50 yan... oks na oks...
pero, audition and decide what sounds best for you.
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Hey, thanks a lot guys for ur inputs.. it's really nice for a newbie like me to have u bunch to share opinions on HT system.
Ok, I finally get my hands on the HT system last weekend. Here's what I bought:
- Pioneer DV-566K DVD player
- Yamaha RX-V440
- Sony SA-VE505 surround speaker packages
- Sony Speaker Stands (1 pair)
- 4 US-made 75ohms coaxial cables (1m length each - 1 digital coax, 3 component video)
- 1 (1m length) good quality US-made speaker cable for centre speaker.
I auditioned the Sony vs Yamaha NS-430 speaker packages (both having active sub). The Sony sounds more composed and base is sweeter. Hence, I laid my money on the Sony. The whole package costs me RM2600 (malaysian ringgit - u guys do the conversion). Not to brag about it, but I think it's a pretty good buy for the buck! :)
I agree that the combination doesn't excel in music CD terms (it's superb for Home Theatre), but I already have a great system for music CD (Marantz CD63SE KI Sig; Marantz PM66SE KI Sig; KEF Q35 speakers) which I love very very much. So, the Yamaha combination is only for movies.
Ok, I have some questions after playing with my newly bought baby.. hope u guys can help me with it.
1. What's the advantage of feeding the component video from my DVD player thru the receiver? as compared to directly connect it to my TV?
2. What's the advantage of feeding the front speaker connections thru my subwoofer? as compared to directly connecting it to my front speakers?
3. I played XMen-2 and there's this part when Prof-X freezes everyone in the exhibition hall (at the beginning of the show). As the camera swept pass the frozen people, there's a part with a faint voice coming from the handphone of one of the frozen actors. I can't hear this faint voice at volume levels of around -40dB... I can only hear it reasonably well at volume setting of -28dB onwards. Is this a problem with the settings or speakers? How can I improve on this? I've already set my speaker distances.
Really appreciate u guys input on this. Sorry for the long message tho. :)
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Conrat's with your HT baby. happiy viewing!!!
1. What's the advantage of feeding the component video from my DVD player thru the receiver? as compared to directly connect it to my TV?
One advantage of going thru the receiver is you can activate your HT controls via the OSM (On Screen Menu) if your receiver has this feature. Also, the receiver's video switching feature allows you to switch between various video sources (like VHS, another DVD players, etc.) connected to a solitary TV monitor.
Otheriwse, you're better off connecting it directly to the TV, thereby bypassing video switches that are notorious for feeding noise into the audio section.
2. What's the advantage of feeding the front speaker connections thru my subwoofer? as compared to directly connecting it to my front speakers?
This is recommend especially if you are using satellite speaker systems. Your subwoofer must be receiving high-level input (speaker connections) directly from your receiver. That means, it gets all the L and R frequencies. The satellite L and R speaker out from the subwoofer cuts off the low frequencies and sends only high-bass, mids and highs to your satellite L and R front speakers, leaving the bass freqs for the sub. Cinnecting directly to the receivers might damage satellite speakers that are not designed to give out low freqs.
You could connect the front L and R directly to the receiver's front or main L and R if they can handle low freqs or if the receiver has a Large and Small main speaker setting. Setting it to SMALL has the same effect as cutting off LF. The low freqs are then rerouted to the sub out terminal for connection to a subwoofer's low level (line input) terminal. A LARGE settings means all freqs are fed to your front speakers.
3. I played XMen-2 and there's this part when Prof-X freezes everyone in the exhibition hall (at the beginning of the show). As the camera swept pass the frozen people, there's a part with a faint voice coming from the handphone of one of the frozen actors. I can't hear this faint voice at volume levels of around -40dB... I can only hear it reasonably well at volume setting of -28dB onwards. Is this a problem with the settings or speakers? How can I improve on this? I've already set my speaker distances.
Have you seen this movie before on another HT system and heard the faint voice at the same listening levels? I know the part you are referring to.
Just my 2 cents.
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Mooncake2
Congrats pre!! Yamaha da best for HT talaga!!
hope to answer some of your question..
1. What's the advantage of feeding the component video from my DVD player thru the receiver? as compared to directly connect it to my TV?
- If your AVR have a OSD its easy to adjust the setting or if you have diff sources like DVD or VHS player you don't need to connect many IC on your TV you only press the corresponding function.
2. What's the advantage of feeding the front speaker connections thru my subwoofer? as compared to directly connecting it to my front speakers?
- You can control the level of the sub so when you increase your front volume you'll sub will also increase.
3. I played XMen-2 and there's this part when Prof-X freezes everyone in the exhibition hall (at the beginning of the show). As the camera swept pass the frozen people, there's a part with a faint voice coming from the handphone of one of the frozen actors. I can't hear this faint voice at volume levels of around -40dB... I can only hear it reasonably well at volume setting of -28dB onwards. Is this a problem with the settings or speakers? How can I improve on this? I've already set my speaker distances.
- Try to break in the speaker after they fully broken in sound will improve..
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Mooncake2,
magkano kuha mo sa 440?
and where?
thanks
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pinoyDVD gurus,
this is my 1st post. i've been learning so much esp. about AV receiver and speaker.
i'd a lot of question, hope you don't mind sharing your knowledge on to this.
my current set-up is not really HT. i experimented it. now i got BOSE acoustimass(forgot the model no.) with 2 jewel speaker and active sub. also got my kenwood 5 layer component. if i watch DVD using all connection from my BOSE and Kenwood speakers( 5 speaker including 2 surround and one center) or course malakas yung tunog but then i was not that satisfied coz hind naghihiwaly ang mga tunog compare to 5.1 or 6.1 for that matter.(tama ba ang pagkaintindi ko na talagand d hiwahi-walay ang tunog kung hindi 5.1 ang gamit ko)
Now my question is:
1. i'm planning to buy a yamaha receiver(RX-V440)/ your suggestion on good receiver also welcome(must be budget friendly). is it possible to use my existing BOSE and Kenwood speaker to connect to yamaha receiver? (para d na ko gumastos pa)
2. in case yes, will i expect to have a 5.1 sound effect?
3. is 5.1 Home Theater speaker have the same sound to my BOSE & Kenwood speakers kung nakabit ko na sa YAMAHA receiver?
Right now kasi d ko kaya i give up ang BOSE jewel speaker ko coz sa ganda ng tunog yun nga lang everytime i'm watching DVD kulang na kulang ang tunog coz puro sa rear lang ang naririnig ko wala sa front. Dati kasi when i'm watching DVD naka on lahat ang speaker ng BOSE at Kenwood but then d maganda ang bigay ng sound ng kenwood compare sa jewel speaker kaya d kona ino-on yung kenwood speaker.
hope you guys could help me on this. I'm really a HT enthusiasts.
i might put it pala on a living room floor area is about 80~90sq meter.
thank you in advance. mabuhay!!!
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IMO, I will sell everything and start buying the proper stuff. You can start by getting an AV-receiver that will process and give you the 5.1 effect that you need. Putting up 5 speakers doesnt mean you have a 5.1. For the mean time you can still use your old speakers but if you want it better then you have to get good and matching speakers. You can start by looking at Monitor Audio, Wharfedale and Mission speakers. If you like your Bose wait till you hear these brands. For the receiver, we have several threads that can help you.
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sir levi,
halos pareho ang set-up at problema ko kay rapeez.
pwede na ba to na set-up?
Marantz4300
BOSE AM5 (my existing speakers)
Wharf's 8.1
Wharf's 8c
US Audio 512L
tanong po:
-saan ko ba e connect ang AM5 sa mains ba or surround?
-hindi ba sobrang boomy ang lalabas sa set-up na to having an active sub (known to be boomy in music) and a bass module of AM5.
-pangit ba talaga ang labas kung hindi matched ang mga speakers?
wla pa akong idea sa HT gusto ko lang gamitin muna ang AM5 para makatipid.
salamat
GneW
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i'm planning to buy a yamaha rxv440, but there's only one optical input. i'm planning to use both the optical out of the dvd player and the ps2.
1) alternatives: coax? external selector? rxv540?
2) or is the audio of the ps2 games not worth using its
optical out?
Thanks all
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use coax for dvd and optical for ps2
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to rapeez and Gnew,
same boat pala tayo, we used to have that Bose AM5 (bakit ba sumikat ito!) i sold this speaker system together with our dolby surround, LD player, Betamax player, (wala ka bang napansin puro obsolete na lahat he..he) Denon Tuner, Pioneer VHS player for 13k 2 years ago
then bought myself a Pioneer DVD 233 player and a Yamaha TSS-1 HTiB
sold the TSS and bought myself a Yamaha RX-V440 last tuesday at Spectra for 14k (hanggang bukas lang yata ang exhibit, balik ulit yata sa 15.5K)
now am shopping for speakers, im doing it sloooowly but surely
as levi's advise sell those bose
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to rapeez and Gnew,
same boat pala tayo, we used to have that Bose AM5 (bakit ba sumikat ito!) i sold this speaker system together with our dolby surround, LD player, Betamax player, (wala ka bang napansin puro obsolete na lahat he..he) Denon Tuner, Pioneer VHS player for 13k 2 years ago
then bought myself a Pioneer DVD 233 player and a Yamaha TSS-1 HTiB
sold the TSS and bought myself a Yamaha RX-V440 last tuesday at Spectra for 14k (hanggang bukas lang yata ang exhibit, balik ulit yata sa 15.5K)
now am shopping for speakers, im doing it sloooowly but surely
as levi's advise sell those bose
better get wharfs since they are better matched with yammies. suggestion lang bro. but still try to audition ma and ms.
:)
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sir levi,
halos pareho ang set-up at problema ko kay rapeez.
pwede na ba to na set-up?
Marantz4300
BOSE AM5 (my existing speakers)
Wharf's 8.1
Wharf's 8c
US Audio 512L
tanong po:
-saan ko ba e connect ang AM5 sa mains ba or surround?
-hindi ba sobrang boomy ang lalabas sa set-up na to having an active sub (known to be boomy in music) and a bass module of AM5.
-pangit ba talaga ang labas kung hindi matched ang mga speakers?
wla pa akong idea sa HT gusto ko lang gamitin muna ang AM5 para makatipid.
salamat
GneW
if you're really definitely timber matching is important. better use the bose for surrounds nalang bro para match yung fronts and center mo. now if you already have the mollah ;D for budget speaker get 8.3 or 8.4 then move the 8.1 for surrounds. but honestly i can't say anything about the marantz/wharf combi since di ko pa narinig yung combi.
:)
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kimpao,
already heard a broken 8.3 on a yammy. (weak high) imho
also a monitor audio b2 on a yammy (detailed high/mid )
a gale 3040 on a TEAC and kenwood receiver
(nice sound for a budget speakers)
DTX slim line (at dai ichi showroom forget the receiver)
forgot how it sounded also
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kimpao,
already heard a broken 8.3 on a yammy. (weak high) imho
also a monitor audio b2 on a yammy (detailed high/mid )
a gale 3040 on a TEAC and kenwood receiver
(nice sound for a budget speakers)
DTX slim line (at dai ichi showroom forget the receiver)
forgot how it sounded also
have you tried nirv's custom speakers? consider mo rin yun bro, or missions kung weak yung highs para sa iyo.
sa monitor audio naman, consider b4. ms nasubukan mo na with your yammies? :)
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thanks kimpao,
how about the onkyo txsr500 or 501 and wharf combi, will this be better?
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thanks kimpao,
how about the onkyo txsr500 or 501 and wharf combi, will this be better?
With Onkyo receivers, it is recommended to pair it with high sensitivity speakers.
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kimpao,
thanks sa sugesstions will auditioned all kapag maluwag ang time, problem ko is medyo malayo pa kasi ako eh (em from pampanga)
B4? out of budget, i have other hobbies pa eh
Phil,
how about yammies? kailangan bang high sensitivity?
440 is high current na daw.
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kimpao,
thanks sa sugesstions will auditioned all kapag maluwag ang time, problem ko is medyo malayo pa kasi ako eh (em from pampanga)
B4? out of budget, i have other hobbies pa eh
Phil,
how about yammies? kailangan bang high sensitivity?
440 is high current na daw.
IMHO, mas accurate ang power rating ng Yamaha. Maraming Yamie-Wharf user dito, they are satisfied naman.
Yes, Yamaha *40 series receivers are high current, but not as high as NAD or Harman Kardon.
If you have *weak* amp/receiver, it is advisable to pair it with high sensitivity speakers.
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kimpao,
thanks sa sugesstions will auditioned all kapag maluwag ang time, problem ko is medyo malayo pa kasi ako eh (em from pampanga)
B4? out of budget, i have other hobbies pa eh
Phil,
how about yammies? kailangan bang high sensitivity?
440 is high current na daw.
another suggestion bro. invest on nice speakers dahil down the line ang avr mabilis maglabas ng mga bagong models plus yung formats pa nung movies. :)
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Kimpao,
Agree ako dyan better invest more of your budget on speaker... since AVR have new model every year.. 8)
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I'll be replacing my old onkyo receiver and I'm contemplating between harman and yamaha, which receiver peforms better on ht? I'm not into music and I'll be using my setup on ht 100%, in your opinion w/c one is better?
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levi,
thx for the reply. yes. eventually i might sell my unit. but initially i'm gonna use it first.
kimpao, we have d same Yamaha AVR(RX-V440) also got from Spectra same cost at 14K last saturday.
guys,
update: i bought wharfedale center(diamond 8) since my kenwood center is only 35watts so they suggest to get higher wattage which is 100watts. i'm using all kenwood speakers including surround. and remarkably stuning sound even without LFE(subwoofer).
now i'm opting to but dyna quest subwoofer. is this a good brand? actually i'm not a brand conscious my concern is how well it will perform.. if you tried dyan quest sub pls. comment.
thx in advance.
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I'll be replacing my old onkyo receiver and I'm contemplating between harman and yamaha, which receiver peforms better on ht? I'm not into music and I'll be using my setup on ht 100%, in your opinion w/c one is better?
pre darvin,
used to have a yamaha 620 before and now a harman 2550. i replaced the yammie coz it really sounded "terrible" in music for me (sorry lang po to all yammie fans but this is an honest opinion). on ht naman, the yamaha really shines but the harman isn't that much far behind. you might wonder why yamaha could be that great in ht yet not good in music, reason being that its too bright sounding. for ht this would be a plus since you'll be listening to a lot of bullets whizzing and explosions where you'll want all the details of the highs to come out. i do miss those highs in my "air force one" and "behind enemy lines" dvds. those dog fights were really excellent in the yamaha.
if i were to rate them both, in music hk would be a 9 and yamaha would be a 5. on ht, yamaha would be a 9.5 and hk an 8. so if youll be using it 100% for ht, i think yamaha would be your choice. :)
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pre darvin,
used to have a yamaha 620 before and now a harman 2550. i replaced the yammie coz it really sounded "terrible" in music for me (sorry lang po to all yammie fans but this is an honest opinion). on ht naman, the yamaha really shines but the harman isn't that much far behind. you might wonder why yamaha could be that great in ht yet not good in music, reason being that its too bright sounding. for ht this would be a plus since you'll be listening to a lot of bullets whizzing and explosions where you'll want all the details of the highs to come out. i do miss those highs in my "air force one" and "behind enemy lines" dvds. those dog fights were really excellent in the yamaha.
if i were to rate them both, in music hk would be a 9 and yamaha would be a 5. on ht, yamaha would be a 9.5 and hk an 8. so if youll be using it 100% for ht, i think yamaha would be your choice. :)
thanks man :)
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Darvin,
Basta HT yamaha! I think there's really more into yamaha than its "brightness" as being the reason for it being good for HT. Iba talaga ang presentation ng yamaha kapag movies ang pag-uusapan. Sa music naman, medyo mahuhuli talaga siya sa ibang AVR. Parang Dr Jeckyl and Mr Hyde ang music vs. HT performance nito. May kanipisan at upfront ang sound sa music (2-channel stereo) which tends to make the music sound bright. However, speaker-avr matching is still the key. A yamaha can also sound good (average) when paired with the right speakers. Sa movies (5.1), buhay na buhay talaga ang viewing experience mo. Enveloping talaga ang sound. I have not really been a fan of DSPs (hanggang ngayon for audio) but the yamaha changed all that. Ang galing ng Cinema DSPs, very realistic and hindi overwhelming ang effects.
Hope this helps. Good luck!
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With Onkyo receivers, it is recommended to pair it with high sensitivity speakers.
philander,
anong mga brands ng mga high sensitivity speakers na nasa wharf's price range?
salamat sa tulong. yon lang ang budget ko eh...
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gnew,
will try to help out. if im not mistaken, the wharfs have an 87db sensitivity rating. higher sensitivity speakers within the 89-91 db range, like mission and monitor audio, are already more than twice the wharfs price range. maybe you can audition dai-ichi speaker packages or gale speakers (check gale speaker thread). if youre really decided in getting the wharfs, hk or yamaha receivers will be able to drive them well.
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philander,
anong mga brands ng mga high sensitivity speakers na nasa wharf's price range?
salamat sa tulong. yon lang ang budget ko eh...
As cousin skeeter said, you may audition Gale speakers or Daiichi HT speakers.
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cousin skeeter/philander,
thanks. i will check gale and dai-ichi threads.
isang hirit... meron akong BOSE AM5, high sensitivity ba to? gusto ko sana gamitin muna for the meantime.dahan-dahan ko lang completohin from AVR,speaker at sub. i'm into 60% music, 40% movies. anong match na AVR sa AM5 ko na ka match din ng gale at dai-ichi.
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levi,
thx for the reply. yes. eventually i might sell my unit. but initially i'm gonna use it first.
kimpao, we have d same Yamaha AVR(RX-V440) also got from Spectra same cost at 14K last saturday.
guys,
update: i bought wharfedale center(diamond 8) since my kenwood center is only 35watts so they suggest to get higher wattage which is 100watts. i'm using all kenwood speakers including surround. and remarkably stuning sound even without LFE(subwoofer).
now i'm opting to but dyna quest subwoofer. is this a good brand? actually i'm not a brand conscious my concern is how well it will perform.. if you tried dyan quest sub pls. comment.
thx in advance.
rapeez, si kimpoy ata yung naka 440 . i'm using 630 for HT. DQ-12, bang for the buck, ok yan. but try not to expect so much since mabagal yan pag dating sa audio. just like wharfs, matagal din yung break-in period niyan. i think yuo should also consider the room size you're gonna put it in.
:)
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levi,
thx for the reply. yes. eventually i might sell my unit. but initially i'm gonna use it first.
kimpao, we have d same Yamaha AVR(RX-V440) also got from Spectra same cost at 14K last saturday.
guys,
update: i bought wharfedale center(diamond 8) since my kenwood center is only 35watts so they suggest to get higher wattage which is 100watts. i'm using all kenwood speakers including surround. and remarkably stuning sound even without LFE(subwoofer).
now i'm opting to but dyna quest subwoofer. is this a good brand? actually i'm not a brand conscious my concern is how well it will perform.. if you tried dyan quest sub pls. comment.
thx in advance.
You can use it for the mean time until you have saved up for new speakers.
For the price, the Dynaquest is worth it, unless you want to wait till you can buy a velodyne.
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cousin skeeter/philander,
thanks. i will check gale and dai-ichi threads.
isang hirit... meron akong BOSE AM5, high sensitivity ba to? gusto ko sana gamitin muna for the meantime.dahan-dahan ko lang completohin from AVR,speaker at sub. i'm into 60% music, 40% movies. anong match na AVR sa AM5 ko na ka match din ng gale at dai-ichi.
gnew,
AM5 is acoustimass 5? i was able to test them and i have to say that if i were 100% into movies, i might have settled for them. ok nman sya for ht, but in music, i didnt like them. anyway, maybe you can use them for now and incrementally purchase better speakers? like what im doing. got my monitor audio B2s before, now am getting my center and sub. if i jumped on getting an ht package before with the money i had, i might be regreting my decision now. speakers will last you 5 years or more. if you can incrementally purchase your speakers within a span of like 6 months to a year, that would probably be more advisable than getting the whole lot now. patience is a virtue daw eh, hehehe. although havent been that long in ht but this advice is practically applicable to most hobbies. sure but steady kung baga. but anyway if the gale or daichi speakers sound excellent for you, then kudos! youve saved yourself a lot of dough, not to mention lost sleep, hehehe.
by the way, am not from manila either and had to rely on them guys here in pinoydvd since i could not audition some of the speakers. it took a lot research and now am happy with the choices i made. you can call them up dealers (archi audio, home theatre) to have your audio equipment shipped to you. thats what am doing. shipping wont cost you that much. nico and sonny tuazon are very accomodating kahit sa phone lang. :) :) :)
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is there a difference between RXV440 and RXV440RDS. Max power of 440 is 95W, while 440RDS is 110w (DIN)?
Thanks.
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they're both selling at the same price too (14,000 at sound dimension). specs do differ in terms of output. i asked the guy behind the counter and all he could tell me is that the rds titanium won an european award. not very helpful :P
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tnx gren. maybe they have another set of standards for europe.
another question. can i still use external units like equalizer, dynamic expander, or bass enhancer with rxv440?
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go to jbl acoustical space megamall
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MASAKIT na ULO ko he..he
Denon 1404 or HK entry level or Onkyo Entry level?
go for 1404
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mga boss,
ano bang AVR ngayon ang pasok sa 15K budget?
1404, i bought them for 17k
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Are MAs an overkill for a HT Project?
Or should I settle for a less costly speaker?
I wouldn't be able to build a separate HT and Audio system due to space (and budget).
Estimated usage is 85% HT, 15% Audio.
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luther,
i used to be a 50% music, 50% ht kinda guy but now that i have my ma b2s, am more 80% music, 20% ht. the monitor audio changed all that being very musical speakers. but if youre mostly into ht and on a very limited budget try the whafedale diamonds, gale and daichi. though theres no harm in auditioning pricier speakers, wla namang audition fee diba, hehehe. one man's meat is another man's poison they say. audition! audition! audition! ;D ;D ;D
p.s.
if i get one of em ws preamps, i might end up 99%music, 1% ht, hehehe
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onga, the % usage changes depending on many factors... its almost seasonal. this month you could be 100% music 0% movies (like me), and then on another month you could be doing the opposite 100% movies 0% music (like me early this year).
it depends on the availability of good movies... we usually watch movies only once, so if there's no new recently acquired DVD to enjoy, what's the use of the hard-earned investment? me, i couldn't bear to watch a movie twice within the same year. i get bored no matter how good it is. so being able to enjoy it with my CD collection is a big bonus. with music you can play back a CD over and over for days without getting tired of it. and that's when the music takes over and takes up more %. until the next blockbuster DVD comes along.
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correct,
me? im on the other side of the boat.
im setting up on a 80% 20% music. (90-10 pa nga yata)
in my hardware hunting, i found out that there's no dedicated speaker in HT, but if you have the moohlah get the MA, why?
you'll never know when AUDIO bug will bite, also
it's good to invest in speakers because receivers will come and go, with technology, new this and new that.
again best is to judge by your ear
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RXV-440 going for 14K at sights and sound park sqaure. Look for Tina. Try audiotioning it. :)
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thanks guys for your response...
i guess i'll stick with the MAs as I think that the audio bug will bite soon... hehehehe...
anyways,
HK 3550 or Yammie RXV-440 to go with the MAs?
the Yammie has more HT features, but I won't be able to utilize it as our space can only provide for a 5.1 setup. yet the Yammie is cheaper by 5K!
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luther,
cant recommend what i dont have. hehehe. ako hk pre. but then again audition yamaha with the MA. baka ok din. havent heard the x40 line eh. my old yamaha was a 620.
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thanks guys for your response...
i guess i'll stick with the MAs as I think that the audio bug will bite soon... hehehehe...
anyways,
HK 3550 or Yammie RXV-440 to go with the MAs?
the Yammie has more HT features, but I won't be able to utilize it as our space can only provide for a 5.1 setup. yet the Yammie is cheaper by 5K!
i'll try my MA's with the yammies kaso 630 yung sa akin. its been more than two weeks since i got the ma's kaso haven't tried it yet with yamaha. di ko kasi masyado nagagamit yung HT ko ngayon, panay audio. ;D
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kimpao,
u got the yamaha630 pre? lupet for movies!!! EISA HT receiver of last year. tsk tsk tsk.
btw bro, i keep confusing u and kimpoy. u related? hehehe
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kimpao,
u got the yamaha630 pre? lupet for movies!!! EISA HT receiver of last year. tsk tsk tsk.
btw bro, i keep confusing u and kimpoy. u related? hehehe
yup, RXV-630. ok siya for HT, combi ko with wharfs-crystals. the only comment that i have for this model is 6.1 matrix di discrete. pero ok lang since konti pa lang yung lumalabas na 6.1 formats for movies problema ko nga ngayon is speaker placements since i also got MA B4's for my 2 channel setup. masikip na dun sa TV room.
OT lang cousin skeeter, nope, not related in any way with kimpoy(tawag rin sa akin yan nung iba pero pag na gagalit sila sa kin "kimonyo", ahehehehe). ;D ;D ;D
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he..he
tukayong kimpao, o please make a review on Yammy+MA
mukhang convinceko na si misis sa MA kaso next year na he..he
though i heard na yammy+MA sa spectra
it's just a tag bright, good for parties
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i dont think the yammies will go well with the MAs, they're both bright and that might give headaches, but then again if that's your preferred sound, then by all means get them both
for the MAs, i would recommend the H/K, marantz x300 series and probably NAD (if budget allows) as they're a bit laid back and would tame the MAs in the process
i still got my MA B4 but ive swapped my 7300 for a 7400 coz my dealer offered a swap for 7300s that's been bought for less than a month for just a little more, unfortunately the 7400 is still out of stock upto now....anyway, the 7300 and the B4 is just a wonderful combo to say the least
just my two cents folks
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he..he
tukayong kimpao, o please make a review on Yammy+MA
mukhang convinceko na si misis sa MA kaso next year na he..he
though i heard na yammy+MA sa spectra
it's just a tag bright, good for parties
sent u pm kimpoy. :)
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i dont think the yammies will go well with the MAs, they're both bright and that might give headaches, but then again if that's your preferred sound, then by all means get them both
for the MAs, i would recommend the H/K, marantz x300 series and probably NAD (if budget allows) as they're a bit laid back and would tame the MAs in the process
i still got my MA B4 but ive swapped my 7300 for a 7400 coz my dealer offered a swap for 7300s that's been bought for less than a month for just a little more, unfortunately the 7400 is still out of stock upto now....anyway, the 7300 and the B4 is just a wonderful combo to say the least
just my two cents folks
yeah, if you want both sound and features, marantz is a good choice. i think the marantz6300 sells for 22k. its 6.1 and has preouts.
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the 7300 and the B4 is just a wonderful combo to say the least
i've heard this combo... i agree.
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Hi Guys,
Can you give some ideas on Monitor Audio, B&W and NHT. Tried listening kasi to these speakers at parang pare-pareho tunog. Yung B&W (DM601 S3) and NHT (SB2), halos pareho, 'softer' lang ang dating noong NHT. Monitor Audio, okay din pero hindi ko ma-direct compare doon sa dalawa. Narinig ko na rin PSB Image 2B at maganda dating nito. Which of these would you recommend?
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Hi Guys,
Can you give some ideas on Monitor Audio, B&W and NHT. Tried listening kasi to these speakers at parang pare-pareho tunog. Yung B&W (DM601 S3) and NHT (SB2), halos pareho, 'softer' lang ang dating noong NHT. Monitor Audio, okay din pero hindi ko ma-direct compare doon sa dalawa. Narinig ko na rin PSB Image 2B at maganda dating nito. Which of these would you recommend?
go 4 b&w
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Hi Guys,
Can you give some ideas on Monitor Audio, B&W and NHT. Tried listening kasi to these speakers at parang pare-pareho tunog. Yung B&W (DM601 S3) and NHT (SB2), halos pareho, 'softer' lang ang dating noong NHT. Monitor Audio, okay din pero hindi ko ma-direct compare doon sa dalawa. Narinig ko na rin PSB Image 2B at maganda dating nito. Which of these would you recommend?
im not familiar with NHT's sound but i do find B&W and MAs to be bright and accurate speakers, the B&W being more accurate that's why im kinda surprised you mentioned them being soft, anyway it could be the amp where they're connected
so to answer your question on which to recommend, id have to ask what receiver do u have (or gonna be having) and still, you need to listen to these speakers connected on a similar receiver as yours
hth
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Salamat sa inputs.
The B&W and NHT that I compared were those in Festival Mall, Electronic Depot. Same volume, they just switched speaker and it turned out the NHT is 'softer'. The sales rep also noticed and increased the volume a bit for it to sound like the B&W speakers.
As for the receiver, I'm thinking HK or NAD. Only tried NAD with Monitor Audio sa Spectra at okay naman. Have not tried HK pa, still looking.
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HK would definitely go well with the Monitors and as for the NAD, i think it would go better with the B&W
though among the four (rcvr and spkrs) you wont go wrong whichever combo you end up with as they're all top notch units
however for best bang for the buck, i would go the HK/MA combo, tried and tested IMO......HK5550 and B4 set is such a sweet combo
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Hey guys FYI lang i've been to Greenhills Amba and they sell their Yamaha RX-V640 for less than 21K i just got my 640 mga two months ago and it cost 24.9K, this one is a steal.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
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Mga pre, mura na ba itong wharfedale pi-10 bookshelf speaker for 400sgd (12Kpesos)? Anyone using the same model?
(http://i9.ac.yahoo.com/users/7/5/1/8/phangfuilong-img600x450-1071667704dscn0735.jpg)
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can you guys give me a suggestion for a rear center speaker? i am looking for something relatively compact that would match a Yamaha RX-V640. does the rear center have to be tonally match with the surround speakers? i have the yamaha p50 as surrounds. thanks
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Hi bros,
iv a question:
if you have a room which is not that big, would you consider pa din separates or an HTiB?
if HTiB, can you recommend a brand?
ok kaya to?
(http://www.onkyousa.com/images/products/Systems/hts767c.jpg)
specs here (http://www.onkyousa.com/model.cfm?m=HT-S767C&p=s&class=Systems)
one last thing...can you replace pa ba the speakers of this type of HTiB like the center or rear surround? just in case. thanks guys!
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can you guys give me a suggestion for a rear center speaker? i am looking for something relatively compact that would match a Yamaha RX-V640. does the rear center have to be tonally match with the surround speakers? i have the yamaha p50 as surrounds. thanks
It would be the best if it is similar to those u r using for your surround left and right. However, any speaker may do... unless u have a very sensitive ears that you can detect the minutest missing sound frequency from a generic set of speakers, then by all means u have to have the same brand of speakers in all of your channels.
siguro for aesthetic purposes, piliin mo ung kahit papaano kasing size ng nasa surrounds mo-- ;D
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thanks jerix. my next question is, i saw the specs of the yamaha rx-v640 and it says that min RMS power is 85 watts. my rear surrounds is rated at 80w max. does this means that my speakers will be damaged if i connect it to the receiver?
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thanks jerix. my next question is, i saw the specs of the yamaha rx-v640 and it says that min RMS power is 85 watts. my rear surrounds is rated at 80w max. does this means that my speakers will be damaged if i connect it to the receiver?
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thanks jerix. my next question is, i saw the specs of the yamaha rx-v640 and it says that min RMS power is 85 watts. my rear surrounds is rated at 80w max. does this means that my speakers will be damaged if i connect it to the receiver?
Answer is simply NO. But check the impedance rating, they should be at least match or in the range rating.
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Answer is simply NO. But check the impedance rating, they should be at least match or in the range rating.
Additional info:
The 640 has a switch on impedance 4-8ohms, 85watts RMS @ 8 ohms and it could be higher if the impedance is low.
Cheers,
-LtCool-
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i just got my yamaha440, iwnt to know if i can use a 4 ohms speaker with 30-80 watts capacity as my rear center
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(http://image.pbase.com/u36/deeveedee888/large/24402180.sakuraav5023front.jpg)
(http://image.pbase.com/u36/deeveedee888/large/24403062.sakuraav5023nextbase785back.jpg)
as i read the threads, i find the brands being mentioned as "far from my reach"...currently i have a nextbase 785 and a sakura amp av-5023 (no digital or coax input and has a speaker output for a L/R front, surround, center and sub)....i want to achieve 5.1....is this possible? i dont have the money to buy those receivers mentioned on this thread. please help me on this....thanks tlga
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Merry Christmas to all!
I'm a newbie in AVRs and speakers...
Need to get advise from you guys with regards on choosing a AVR and Speaker.
Below are the model I came across:
Denon 1604
Onkyo TX SR501
Yamaha 540
Speaker:
JBL SCS178
Wharfdale 8.1
The usage will be approx. 60% video and 40% audio..
Thanks in Advance :)
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onkyo and wharfedale would be great
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the denon+jbl would be great..but ide go for wharfedale tlaga + a good budget priced sub... 8)
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I'd go for yamaha+wharf combi :D
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try HK baka tutal 40% audio ka
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bakit nawawala iyong pics na pino-post ko? :'( 3x already. am using pbase ksi sa villagephotos.....my pics are too big to upload...i resized it, too small naman to see the pics clearly. kaya pbase na lang...but im sure mawawala naman eto later....im posting this coz i want to "maximize" this sakura amp by asking help sa inyo d2 sa pdvd. if the pics mawawala ulit....d2 na lang sa link : http://www.pbase.com/deeveedee888/inbox salamat po
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(http://image.pbase.com/u36/deeveedee888/large/24402180.sakuraav5023front.jpg)
(http://image.pbase.com/u36/deeveedee888/large/24403062.sakuraav5023nextbase785back.jpg)
as i read the threads, i find the brands being mentioned as "far from my reach"...currently i have a nextbase 785 and a sakura amp av-5023 (no digital or coax input and has a speaker output for a L/R front, surround, center and sub)....i want to achieve 5.1....is this possible? i dont have the money to buy those receivers mentioned on this thread. i have 4 xenon speakers and an active sub. no center for me...please help me on this....thanks tlga
I checked your amp pics - Sorry bro, di mo makukuha 5.1 dahil walang inputs ang receiver mo for 5.1 analog. puro stereo inputs lang...
what you need is the Sakura or Promac amp that has 5 analog inputs at the back for front (RL) surround (RL) and center ** note - not all models have them to match the outputs of your nextbase
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thanks iceman for the quick reply. twice mo na ako natulungan. now i can move on. so is there a generic amp that has a 5.1 input? cost is my limitation. and what entry level amp do u recommend for me to achieve this 5.1? thank u. more power!
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Audition all. Let your ears decide. :)
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thanks iceman for the quick reply. twice mo na ako natulungan. now i can move on. so is there a generic amp that has a 5.1 input? cost is my limitation. and what entry level amp do u recommend for me to achieve this 5.1? thank u. more power!
madami ka choices, depende kung magkano budget mo:
1. promac
2. sakura
3. rhongxin dv89 (with spkrs na ito)
4. xenon 510 (with spkrs na ito)
5. magnum (with spkrs na ito)
6. klipsch promedia 5.1 (with spkrs na ito)
7. 2nd hand digital recvr
8. brand new digital recvr
kung gusto mo - pm mo ako baka may maitulong pa ako...
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sir iceman90a, OT lang pero how were u able to get your speaker stands? thanks bro. ;D
merry christmas and happy new "tube" year! ;D
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sir iceman90a, OT lang pero how were u able to get your speaker stands? thanks bro. ;D
merry christmas and happy new "tube" year! ;D
contact Mr Jun Reyes - he made them for me, his number is in the general thread ;)
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Merry Christmas to all!
I'm a newbie in AVRs and speakers...
Need to get advise from you guys with regards on choosing a AVR and Speaker.
Below are the model I came across:
Denon 1604
Onkyo TX SR501
Yamaha 540
Speaker:
JBL SCS178
Wharfdale 8.1
The usage will be approx. 60% video and 40% audio..
Thanks in Advance :)
u can have yamaha n jbl or wharfedale of ur choice
try visiting spectra at parksquare 1 they hve displays der
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Hello,
newbie rin po ako dito, ok ba ang combi ng Denon 1604 and JBL SCS178? Gusto ko kasi ng 50% video and 50% video.
In promo daw ito at mukhang ok for entry level.
Ano sa tingin ninyo?
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its a perfect match for audio n video!
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For those interested.....
NAD L55/L75....P45,000...previous price P55,000
NAD T741...P20,000...previous price P23,500...
Direct buyers only...
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1. I saw some dvd players that have the analog outputs at the back. Are these the
Dolby Digital/DTS outputs that plug into your typical receivers? If not
what are these outputs for?
2. I have the Pioneer DV-366s DVD player and I looked at the back and I only
have the digital optical and coaxial connections. Does this also plug into
your typical receiver?
2.a If yes, what are the differences between the analog outputs and digital outputs?
2.b If not, would I need another DVD player model before I can plug in a good
quality receiver? Ihave one i mind which is the Pioneer DV-667 model..is this good enough?
3. For my current DVD player (DV-366s), what is the best receiver that I can get
for these type of player and also the matching speakers?
Can you recommend an entry level setup, middle budget and high-end setup and
tell me how much. I would like to use these for audio and movies.
Thanks.
Mods if you decide to merge the thread, can you pls bump the thread to where
you would merge this. Thanks a bunch.
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Good Evening to All! Thanks for the advise.
My friend mentioned about Mission Speaker with Denon receiver....
I was wondering san ako makakahanap ng pinakamura nagbebenta ng denon, onkyo and mission speakers...
thanks in advance :)
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Hyperaudio or The Hometheater. Check the general topics.
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Good Evening to All! Thanks for the advise.
My friend mentioned about Mission Speaker with Denon receiver....
I was wondering san ako makakahanap ng pinakamura nagbebenta ng denon, onkyo and mission speakers...
thanks in advance :)
Go to premier sights and sounds park square. Look for Tina. I got my Yamaha RXV-1400 there and its cheaper compared to all the stores that sells AVR. They also give freebies. :)
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Good Evening to All! Thanks for the advise.
My friend mentioned about Mission Speaker with Denon receiver....
I was wondering san ako makakahanap ng pinakamura nagbebenta ng denon, onkyo and mission speakers...
thanks in advance :)
u can go to spectra at parksquare 1 u can look for jim or nino
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Question lang po, para san ba ang mga preamplifiers , power amplifiers? Are these different from AVR's? In what way?
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Question lang po, para san ba ang mga preamplifiers , power amplifiers? Are these different from AVR's? In what way?
Hi Matt Daemon,
Generally, an AVR is for both music and home theater, while a preamp + power amp if widely used for music.
Ang AVR ay parang pinagsamang preamp and power amp tapos may tuner pa, tapos can drive 5-6 speakers and subwoofer pa. Because of the complexity of the AVRS' functions, there is a higher probability for a compromised audio performance. Thus if you compare them, chances are the preamp + power amp combo may sound better in music. Aside from its simple circuity, a stereo Preamp + Power amp combo benefit from the fact that they each have their own power supply a huge factor leading to their better sonic performance. The downside is - their higher cost, and you need an additional pair of interconnects to make it work!
Why are you asking? Mukhang mapapagastus ka dyan sa tanong mo. hehe.
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audio_tyro: Hindi naman :) I'm just curious kasi there are so many terms out there that I don't know of and have yet to understand.
So If I want a good music experience and not contented with the AVR's capability I should get what components aside from the dedicated CD player?
BTW stereo lang ito ano?
And can you use the existing speakers that are plugged into the AVR?
Also Where do you connect the preamp + poweramp. Ano bang brands yung mgaganda?
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audio_tyro: Hindi naman :) I'm just curious kasi there are so many terms out there that I don't know of and have yet to understand.
So If I want a good music experience and not contented with the AVR's capability I should get what components aside from the dedicated CD player?
BTW stereo lang ito ano?
And can you use the existing speakers that are plugged into the AVR?
Also Where do you connect the preamp + poweramp. Ano bang brands yung mgaganda?
Anong hindi naman? Ganyan na ganyan din ako nag-umpisa! hahaha.
The path towards getting a preamp+amp coming from AVR is usually triggered when you upgrade your CD player and/or speakers. It's when you realize that you are not doing justice to your upgrade, meaning the AVR can barely drive your speakers to optimal levels, at least as good as how the demo room made them sing.
* Yes, generally pang stereo lang.
But there's a more cost-effective alternative: integrated amplifier (it has preamp + amp, but with no tuner). Another good thing here is that you don't need an extra pair of interconnects in bet. preamp/amp.
You can transfer the speaker cables from your AVRs to the preamp/amp (palitpat-lipat ba); or you can let the preamp/amp drive the fronts while your AVR drive the center and rears (that's what I do). So that when listening to music, I only use the integrated amp. Then when viewing DVDs, both the integrated amp and AVR are fired up, and all speakers are in action.
Anong magandang brands? Marami masyado. May option ka pa to go tubes or solid state. So doble dami na! Why don't you register also at www.wiredstate.com. Lots of info there.
You connect the cd player to the preamp via interconnects, then another interconnects going to the power amp, then speakers na. If you use an integrated amp; cd player=> integrated amp => speakers (you save on one pair of interconnects).
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to all,
Saan saan po ba pwedeng mag audition ng mga AVR especially yung mga YAmmy and in cheaper price po?Name po ng Bilihan and location po? Im from Cavite.
maraming salamat po,
whinzu
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Ambassador but why dont you try other brands. Almost the same lang price.
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thnks po kagawad,
kc po sa mga nabasa ko yung yammy ang cheaper, san san pa po ba yung mga bilihan, not familiar sa mga location and name eh. Pero try ko rin po yung ibang brand.
thanks in advance,
Whinzu
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You can go to Park Square 1 in Makati, New World Hotel ( Architectural Audio ) or The Hometheater ( Salcedo Village ). You can also send a PM to cybermms. He has a shop in Cavite. Cyber Machines Marketing and Sales - Imus, Cavite - Call (046) 4713651
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whinzu
u can try spectra @ parksquare 1 makati
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whinzu,
call Tina of Sights n Sound park square at 7527115
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basically one stop shop ang park sqaure 1 for electronics
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maraming maraming salamat po sa inyong lahat, pwede napo akong magsimulang mag audition. salamat po ulit.
whinzu
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MAyroon kayang ganun combination ang electronic depot for my budget, 30-40k?
nka bili ako ng HT worth 50k! marantz6300 25k from electronic depot and jbl scs178 (center,front,surr.,powered sub) for 24K from jbl in megamall
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1. I saw some dvd players that have the analog outputs at the back. Are these the
Dolby Digital/DTS outputs that plug into your typical receivers? If not
what are these outputs for?
2. I have the Pioneer DV-366s DVD player and I looked at the back and I only
have the digital optical and coaxial connections. Does this also plug into
your typical receiver?
2.a If yes, what are the differences between the analog outputs and digital outputs?
2.b If not, would I need another DVD player model before I can plug in a good
quality receiver? Ihave one i mind which is the Pioneer DV-667 model..is this good enough?
3. For my current DVD player (DV-366s), what is the best receiver that I can get
for these type of player and also the matching speakers?
Can you recommend an entry level setup, middle budget and high-end setup and
tell me how much. I would like to use these for audio and movies.
Thanks.
Mods if you decide to merge the thread, can you pls bump the thread to where
you would merge this. Thanks a bunch.
Answers:
1. Analog output - 4 ur stereo, dd & dts output is 4 5.1 channel receiver to view dvd movies.
2. Ur dvd player has no analog output, the digital coax shud be connected to ur digital in receiver to get the theatre like experience when watching dvd.
2a. The analog is only 4 2 channel system or so called stereo, the digital output is need to achieve 5.1 HT system when viewing dvd movies
2b. if ur r after dvd movies, ok na ung player mo, u can directly connect it to ur 5.1 receiver as i mentioned earlier.
3. There are so many audio shops that u can audition their receiver/speaker combo. Try to luk 4 other threads here regarding receiver/speakers.
For ur set up requirements, try reading other threads/posting and compare them vis-a-vis to ur budget.
Did i answer all ur questions?
Just my 1/8 cents.
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I currently have a yam RX-V440 receiver. I need your suggestions on which speakers to buy. I want to change my NS-P226 package.
Thanks!
FB
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fat bastard,
im using DTX on my 440, patience lang sa break in,
out of the box naman swak na swak ang mission.
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I currently have a yam RX-V440 receiver. I need your suggestions on which speakers to buy. I want to change my NS-P226 package.
Thanks!
FB
Mission m70 series. Wharfedale Diamond series, Mordaunt-short Declaration series, B&W 300 or 600 series. Suggest you audition these and other brands with your Yamaha receiver. A rather bothersome ordeal bringing a heavy receiver from one AV shop to another, but a little hassle can go a long way to helping you decide which speakers to get. You can audition many at Park Square in Makati.
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just like fat bastard i`m shopping for fronts for my 440, browsing the buy n sell section of pinoydvd, tanong ko lang kung ano ang mas maganda ang performance ng floorstand or booksheelves? i`m newbie lang kc i just bought my 440 last month.
tnx
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medyo mahirap sagutin kung ano ang mas maganda, floor o standmount. comparison of these two types depends on the brand and model of the speakers. maybe if you will post the brand and model of the speakers you are interested in, someone here might be able to help. also important is your listening preference, the size of the room and other equipments you will hook them up to.
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If not mistaken, have come across a thread about floorstanders vs bookshelf speakers. Teka, sa wiredstate ata yon.
Anyway, my personal preference is and has always been floorstanders. For music, most of the time I don't use the subwoofer. I only use it to augment some materials that are bass deficient.
having said that. i don't discount the fact there are excellent bookshelf types that can go down to 50Hz or 40Hz. Bookshelf speakers generally have excellent mid range sound. But their floorstanding siblings in the same model series share the same trait plus a few more low end hertz. Often, the cost of a floorstander equals the cost of a bookshelf sibling plus Lovan stands. There are bookshelf speakers that are called MONITORs with really outstanding frequency repsonse and uncoloured reproduction. They are most often used in recording studios. But these outstanding bookshelf speakers or monitors can cost a lot - almost like a pre-owed car and some about the cost of an Altis. Ofcourse, there are floorstading speakers that cost as much, even more.
I guess it's up to yours ears. Alos, consider that if you use speaker stands, bookshelf speakers on them will eat the same real estate space as a floorstander. But if you are space challlenged and would like small speakers on shelves (where they will sound with some bass reinforcement as the shelves act as a baffle), then bookshelf speakers may be the way to go.
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just like fat bastard i`m shopping for fronts for my 440, browsing the buy n sell section of pinoydvd, tanong ko lang kung ano ang mas maganda ang performance ng floorstand or booksheelves? i`m newbie lang kc i just bought my 440 last month.
tnx
wharfedale diamonds are a good match with yamahas. the mellow wharfs are able tame of the yamaha's brightness.
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wharfedale diamonds are a good match with yamahas. the mellow wharfs are able tame of the yamaha's brightness.
Good to hear that, i am planning to buy a yamaha rxv440 and wharfs speakers. Medyo affordable kasi yung dalawa, unlike the other brands way out of my budget.
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Good to hear that, i am planning to buy a yamaha rxv440 and wharfs speakers. Medyo affordable kasi yung dalawa, unlike the other brands way out of my budget.
I agree, yamaha and wharfs - good combination :)
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Kimosabe,
Sir kung type mo Wharf I suggest na Harman Kardon AVR kunin mo just stretch your budget mo and I'm sure rewarding naman like Sir Courage setup HK/wharf combo si Slayer din... sure na Panalo ito pre.
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Kimosabe,
sir, either way Wharf/Yamaha or Wharf/HK combi panalo sa HT. Pero if you're going to use it for both Wharf/HK na sir. agree ako dun sa payo ni bos hans (take it from the guru). Konti nalang sir kimosabe, HK 5500 na yan! ;D meron ata akong alam na nagbebenta ng 2nd hand nun, ah. ::)
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ariel, av_phile 1, cousin skeeter tnx sa advice, just like kimosabe i might go for yamaha/wharf combo pure HT lang ang reference ko. tight din kasi ang budyet utang pa sa misis ko ang pambili( sangla ATM ;D )
tnx
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Happy shopping for your wharfe/yammy and happy setting-up and viewing. ;D Tell us once you're through.
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ariel, av_phile 1, cousin skeeter tnx sa advice, just like kimosabe i might go for yamaha/wharf combo pure HT lang ang reference ko. tight din kasi ang budyet utang pa sa misis ko ang pambili( sangla ATM ;D )
tnx
many guys start down this hobby as ht enthusiasts and end up more into audio. i'd still advise that if you can stretch your budget a little more, get a hk/wharf combo. youll never know when youll start to love audio more than ht. although another approach would be separate ht, audio setups. you could invest in a separate audio setup someday :)
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Thanks for the advise guys, habang pinag-iisipan ko eh pag-iipunan ko na rin para maraming options ;D
Ok palang pang-diet ang hobby natin eh, nauubusan kasi ako ng pang-lunch kakaipon pambili ng gears ;D
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kimosabe: haha, i know how that goes :> puro mini-stop nalang ako. but hey, i can think of worse things to spend money on :> sides, i need to diet too.
i do agree with cousin skeeter: you can't be watching movies all the time, and while a ht set up might not reach the levels of a dedicated 2 channel audio setup, its a pretty decent alternative. i prefer having the choice of going 2 channel and multi channel.
i started out looking for a nice multichannel sound system for gaming, these days, i use my receiver mostly for music and barely games or movies.
i heard a wharfe 8.3/wh2/yamaha 440/dq12 being demoed yesterday, quite nifty. i'm thinking of buying wh2s to serve as my temporary surround channel after hearing them, very good value :>
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jowa627 and KimosabE,
Try auditioning first before buying, because in the end you alone can decide for yourself. I'm a satisfied owner of the combo Yamaha&Wharf, what a great combo. syempre dapat match yung speaker sa amp.
According to some technical person you need an amp that has 80% wattage with respect to your speaker (ie. 80W AVR and 100W Speakers) to be able to drive the speaker smoothly but not maximizing the volume as to distortion may occur because there isn't much power to drive the speaker, if your amp is in equal wattage with you speaker there may be no problem driving the speakers to max level as long as your AVR can supply continuous power. But then your ear can caught the problem, hehehe
Cheers,
-LtCool-
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true audition is the key,
got a yamaha/DTX combo
best bang for the buck.
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try nyo rin Yamaha/JBL... :)
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pasingit na rin po.. how about onkyo/wf? ok rin ba yun? and what sub do you suggest for a newbie?
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pasingit na rin po.. how about onkyo/wf? ok rin ba yun? and what sub do you suggest for a newbie?
bgs,
onkyo/wf is a good combination though onkyo it's more on audio. if you're into HT combination would be yamaha/WF or you may ask NTNovice proud user of onkyo/wf combi. hope this help. SUB? now i'm using Dyan quest so far for me no problem. audition, audition is the keyword. gud luck ;)
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pasingit na rin po.. how about onkyo/wf? ok rin ba yun? and what sub do you suggest for a newbie?
sir,
IMHO, ok ang onkyo/wharf combo. warm sounding yan. i listen to jazz, rock without using a sub. pretty satified naman ako. tama si sir rapeez. audition is the KEY.
HTNov
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pasingit na rin po.. how about onkyo/wf? ok rin ba yun? and what sub do you suggest for a newbie?
hk/wharf!!!! love what you own daw eh. hehehe. but seriously, if youd like to own an harman, nows the time becoz some of em harman owners are unloading their 2550s and 3550s to upgrade to the 230 and 330. maka bargain ka pa. check out the buy and sell thread. saw several hks for sale ;) ;) ;)
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nelrey offered me a 2550 for cheap, as well. with warranty. not sure if it's still available but you can PM him as well.
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honestly speaking though, aside from hearing yamaha's 'brightness', i have yet to really differentiate between the sound being put out by denons, onkyos, or hks. speakers seem to contribute more to the audio characteristics rather than the receivers.
this is just my observation for the receivers and speakers i've auditioned, which can be put squarely on the 'budget levels'.
i liked the suggestions other folks have given me while i was shopping around for a receiver: focus on function as well as power. see if the receiver has all the connections you need (digital in/out, component/svideo support, preout support), if the DSPs are to your liking (i like Onkyo's Direct Mode for audio listening), whether or not its 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1, etc etc.
As for power, one rule of thumb I had for myself is this: japanese brands tend to overqualify the power output of their receivers (yamaha, onkyo?), whereas western receivers have a penchance for understating their power output (HK, NAD). Of course, this is just based from research and reading through these threads. I did not measure the wattage myself as I've no idea on how I'd go about doing it :>
oh yeah, lastly, budget :> some of the well represented brands here (yamaha mainly, though denon has a wide presence in shops as well) are much cheaper, especially compared to the SRP prices of other countries. this is good since, aside from getting stuff for cheap, your chances for better aftersales service will increase (well, generally speaking :>).
wow, look at all this stuff i've written up. must be a slow day at work, huh? :>
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honestly speaking though, aside from hearing yamaha's 'brightness', i have yet to really differentiate between the sound being put out by denons, onkyos, or hks. speakers seem to contribute more to the audio characteristics rather than the receivers.
this is just my observation for the receivers and speakers i've auditioned, which can be put squarely on the 'budget levels'.
i liked the suggestions other folks have given me while i was shopping around for a receiver: focus on function as well as power. see if the receiver has all the connections you need (digital in/out, component/svideo support, preout support), if the DSPs are to your liking (i like Onkyo's Direct Mode for audio listening), whether or not its 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1, etc etc.
As for power, one rule of thumb I had for myself is this: japanese brands tend to overqualify the power output of their receivers (yamaha, onkyo?), whereas western receivers have a penchance for understating their power output (HK, NAD). Of course, this is just based from research and reading through these threads. I did not measure the wattage myself as I've no idea on how I'd go about doing it :>
oh yeah, lastly, budget :> some of the well represented brands here (yamaha mainly, though denon has a wide presence in shops as well) are much cheaper, especially compared to the SRP prices of other countries. this is good since, aside from getting stuff for cheap, your chances for better aftersales service will increase (well, generally speaking :>).
wow, look at all this stuff i've written up. must be a slow day at work, huh? :>
I agree with you Gren, in general, european and american brands of amps/recievers are modestly rated if not more accurate in stating their continuous power. I can understand why. but the explanation is much too technical to discuss. There are exceptionsof course. Rotel being one of them.
Personally, I prefer high-current amps/receivers (NAD, HK, Rotel) that are modestly rated over some amps with high power rating but cannot handle 2 or 4 ohm loads. But that's just me.
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ah, so for low ohm speakers, you'd need higher wattage?
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even some amps/receivers claiming high wattage may not be able to drive 2ohm and 4ohm loads without distorting. personally, i wouldn't use 4ohm speakers even if my receiver has been rated to be able to drive such. its better to be on the safe side :) :) :)
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ah, so for low ohm speakers, you'd need higher wattage?
Nope, not really. amplifiers that are claimed to be high current will not have any problem driving difficult loads that go down to 2 ohms. But be sure their technical specs say so explicitly. Silence means they can't, to be safe.
Such amps are typically rated at 8 ohms. 4 ohms and 2 ohms:
100 watts RMS at 8 ohms,
200 watts RMS at 4 ohms,
380 watts RMS at 2 ohms.
Many amps in this category can also be bridged from stereo to mono but some specify only 8 ohm speakers because effectively a bridged configuration makes each amp drive half of the load.
These amps are designed to behave like constant voltage sources that can deliver the necessary current even as the load goes down. Many US and European brands are like that. In contrast Jap amps that typically behave like constant current sources will be taxed at low speaker loads. Often because the dynamics of many musical recordings require transient peaks that often exceed twice the continuous power rating, high current amps can sound louder than those that are not, given the same continuous power rating. Hence, for such amps, i would prefer one that is rated around twice that of a high-current amp as I can expect it to give the transient responses needed at below half the full volume at the most. But only at 8 ohm speaker loads.
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hi, u can get a jbl scs178 (geat sound vs the price) tandem it with a denon 1604. for a great deal, go to jbl acoustical space at megamall, u can also get 50% on their speakerwires wen u avail the package, look for mark go. i recently bought my package and it's a great deal for 41,900!!!
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http://www.pmcloudspeaker.com/index2.html
check it out guys.... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
PEACE!!!!
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Hey just like to know the comments of buyers of the new NAD T763
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http://www.pmcloudspeaker.com/index2.html
check it out guys.... :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
PEACE!!!!
nice speakers, transmission line design... and I think they are using dynaudio drivers 8)
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Review : : . T742 A/V Receiver and T512 DVD Player
What Home Cinima
December 2003
WHC
"And the System sounds just as good with music…. NAD’s musical roots are in evidence, and the setup makes a perfect replacement hi-fi."
The NAD T742 Surround Receiver and T512 DVD Player brings full NAD quality into the budget price range, offering all of the requirements for home theatre enjoyment. What Home Cinema, reviewing a full home theatre system, chose the T742 and T512 Combo for the electronics. If you are interested in a high quality, well priced A/V Receiver you will be interested in reading this review. Here are some excerpts:
Superior separates
"As any hi-fi enthusiast knows, a system of dedicated components generally offers better performance and greater versatility then most one-box systems. The NAD electronics are no exception. The T742 amp is equipped to decode both Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 surround sound formats. Dolby Pro-Logic II is also present to turn external sources into almost 5.1 surround sound. Picture signals from the T512 DVD player are taken care of via the RGB-enabled Scart socket, and S-video and composite video sockets are also provided. It can play CD’s that contain MP3 music files….
DVD images are impressive and the T512 Handles The Two Towers with exceptional depth and clarity. Middle-earth looks very natural and there is no hint of picture noise in the skyline. ….. Sound performance is often where a separates-based system scores over a one-box solution…. NAD’s spectacularly refined so the components gel together as though they where made with one another in mind.
The Two Towers sounds spectacular, with the NAD’s 5.1 processing and amplification keeping a tight grip on the soundtrack. Effects are perfectly placed around the room and the satellites have a smoothness that makes the clanging of the weapons in the battle sequences very easy to hear. And the impact is high, with the subwoofers’ thunderous bass levels ensuring you feel the full force of the movie’s gut wrenching effects.
The best medicine
And the System sounds just as good with music…. NAD’s musical roots are in evidence, and the setup makes a perfect replacement hi-fi. Spin Magic and Medicine by The Corel and the distinctive vocals and twangy guitars are expertly recreated. Bass is tight and rhythmic, and vocals have a clarity depth that is extremely easy to listen to.
This is an excellent blend of separates….. The NAD Components have a refined movie and musical sound, and gave this separates setup a funky twist that will appeal to anyone who is looking for a top-performing home cinema separates system with a difference. WHC
Good Points
Three-dimensional movie and music sound, and decent picture. Dual function remote with backlit keys.
Overall
An Excellent separates combination with a refined, three-dimensional music and movies performance that makes watching movies and listening to music very enjoyable. "
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I need help :
im planning to buy a B&W 601 s3 para sa front and 303 sa surrounds advisable ba kung ang receiver ko yamaha 540? Unti-untiin ko lang kasi ang upgrade ng speakers para hindi gaanong mabigat sa bulsa at para di magwala si esmi ;)
Thanks.
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nice speakers, transmission line design... and I think they are using dynaudio drivers 8)
Same observation :D
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I need help :
im planning to buy a B&W 601 s3 para sa front and 303 sa surrounds advisable ba kung ang receiver ko yamaha 540? Unti-untiin ko lang kasi ang upgrade ng speakers para hindi gaanong mabigat sa bulsa at para di magwala si esmi ;)
Thanks.
B&W 600 series are easy to drive.
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guys and girls,
can anyone help me? I wanna buy a home theater system. What would you suggest? my budget's between 25k to 40K. feel free to suggest the brand and specs with suggested retail price. thanks!
Veejay
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Is that budget without the TV?
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guys and girls,
can anyone help me? I wanna buy a home theater system. What would you suggest? my budget's between 25k to 40K. feel free to suggest the brand and specs with suggested retail price. thanks!
Veejay
With that budget, assuming i already have a TV and DVD player, i would visit some of the AV shops at Makati Park Square and get a Pioneer, Onkyo, Yamaha or Denon 6.1 receiver out there in the18-20K range and then get a Wharfedale diamond surround speaker set for another 15K or less and then get a Dynaquest, DTX or US audio subwoofer for less then 7k. Better still. i'd go to Raon and maybe get these at lesser prices. That is, if i really can't wait to have an instant HT right away. But you could go the gradual route and start with one component at a time.
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guys and girls,
can anyone help me? I wanna buy a home theater system. What would you suggest? my budget's between 25k to 40K. feel free to suggest the brand and specs with suggested retail price. thanks!
Veejay
i just bought the 1st Philippine issue of T3 magazine, and for that budget they recommend a decent entry-level DVD player and a satellite/sub speaker system that has built-in DD/DTS/DPL2 decoders.
some speaker packages that have built-in decoders are JBL ESC, Boston Acoustics, Sony, etc.
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If your interested for an instant H.T with that budget...we would like to offer to you Klipsch Promedia 5.1 (THX Certified) with DD5.1 (Dolby Digital, DTS and & Prologic 2 built-in decoder)
Its price is P39,000, 0% interest , 12 months to pay and with FREE Nextbased DVD.
Just contact us direct # 893-8011
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Wondering if you can help my already puzzled mind
here's my current system
28-inch Sony Flat WS HDTV
Nextbase DVD player
Mission 780 bookshelf speakers
Luxman Integrated Stereo Amp
Am itching to jump into HT..but am confused as to which route I should take..please help me :)
1. get a Home Theater in a Box package. Plug and Play and enjoy the movie...
2. go get seperate components (eg AVR, speakers, DVD player upgrade) and reward yourself with a better system (upgradable pa).
-the price of an HTIB is really tempting..but would this set-up be at par with a seperate component set-up within the same price range?
or should I just wait? I still want to keep the Missions for Audio listening eh..
sorry for the long post :)
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1- you already have a dvd player - though not exactly the greatest.
2- you already have a pair of good quality speakers... That's ATLEAST SURROUND speakers right there.
Why don't you just get an A/V receiver to start.. and build off there?
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thanks..
would you think it will sound better than an HTIB?
-like two-folds better? :)
am planning to set my 780's as fronts :) i hope
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it will sound much much much better than any HTiBs, ofcourse.
as for the 780, it can start as your fronts.. then maybe move it back to the surrounds pag naka upgrade ka na.
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thanks...kating-kati na kasi ako mag HT :)
but I guess I have to take your advice..
patience has it's rewards diba..:)
thanks dude
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An HTIB is very convenient to have around. But I've heard them and while they can be adequate for talkies in small rooms, they are very wanting when it comes to dynamic explosions and effects in many blockbuster films. You could have an earlier itch to upgrade sooner than if you start with an entry level Yamaha, Onkyo, Marantz or Denon HT receiver.
Your stereo set-up is fine to begin with. If i were you, i would get the following without disposing any of my exsiting gears:
(1) Get a Mission floorstander pair or a bigger Mission bookshelf for the fronts. Relegate your existing 780s to the rears.
(2) Get a good powered subwoofer in the 200 watts range and connect this directly to the nextbase LFE analog out.
(3) Get another stereo integrated amplifier with the same power rating as your Luxmans to power the rear. Alternately, there are many good ones from Jap surplus at the pier or pre-owned gears at makati cinema Square. THis is a lot cheaper than getting an entry level HT receiver which could mean disposing your Luxman or using that as a separate stereo only set-up.
You would have two volume knobs to control the stereo front and the stereo rear. But you could adjust that only once and let the nextbase DVD player's output level control act as the master volume.
You don't really have to have a center channel and speaker as you could set the nextbase player to go on phantom mode for the center. Meaning, you can turn off the center channel in the nextbase which would route the center information to the L and R fronts. i find this set-up ok when listening alone as they give a better front imaging and integration.
But if you have a large room and have a large audience scattered across the L and R speakers when watching movies, having a center channel is best in order for the person farthest to the left or right of the TV to have a better anchor on the dialogues coming as they should near the TV screen. In that case, you may just have to get an 5.1 HT receiver. I could suggest another integrated stereo that could power the front center though.
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AV Phile
My set-up is in my bedroom, most of the time I watch alone, my largest audience would be that unexpected female visitor..hehe.
Ur suggestion is also nice..but that would mean I have too many amps in my bedroom? The 73i floorstanders are a goodchoice but it is a lower bracket model than my 780's..that would mean having a 24k speaker as my rears and a 13k floorstander as my fronts..kinda akward ata hehe...
I'm thinking another bookshelf might do the trick.
-I will try and study the capabilities of my nextbase..thanks..didnt know it cud that until you told me so..
any more suggest?
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Yamaha RX-V440, Wharf 8.4 fronts, Wharf 8.1 rears, Wharf center and DQ-12 (or US Audio 512) for the sub..... can anyone comment on this? Are they a good match? (obviously, i'm working on a certain budget) if no, please recommend what should be replaced.
thanks
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a yammie/wharf diamond setup has always been considered to be a good starting setup. kung gipit talaga ang budget, i would recommend this. piece of advice lang, avoid surfing this site when youve completed your setup. mahawaan ka lang ng SARS! unless youve additional dough to invest again :)
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thanks, tingin ko pag itutuloy ko ito, medyo pang-matagalan na ito unless yumaman ako bigla. ang medyo alangan lang ako ay yung dq-12 or us audio kaso wala nang ibang same price bracket na available.... baka si nirvblakr meron, matanong nga
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AV Phile
My set-up is in my bedroom, most of the time I watch alone, my largest audience would be that unexpected female visitor..hehe.
Ur suggestion is also nice..but that would mean I have too many amps in my bedroom? The 73i floorstanders are a goodchoice but it is a lower bracket model than my 780's..that would mean having a 24k speaker as my rears and a 13k floorstander as my fronts..kinda akward ata hehe...
I'm thinking another bookshelf might do the trick.
-I will try and study the capabilities of my nextbase..thanks..didnt know it cud that until you told me so..
any more suggest?
Well what i meant suggesting you get a Mission floorstander was not the M73i but a floorstander in the same series as the 780. The two series may not share the same timbre.
And yes, you would have another amp to clutter your bedroom if you followed my suggestion. I was suggesting you need not dispose of the Luxman when going HT. Either that or get an HT receiver and dispose off the Luxman or set-it up elsewhere.
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thanks for insight Av_phile...I might try to scratch my card again to get a decent receiver soon...pero not this month siguro since I will try to upgrade my fronts first...
thanks :)
Now I have direction :)
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tryaudio, mission 782 na yata ang susunod ha.. a multi-award-winning setup! ;)
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Akyat,
mesyedo madugo 782 pre....and looking at the M33 series muna para mabuo ko muna lahat..harap-likod-at boom box.. :)
the audio set-up is another story :)
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Hello. I am new to this.This hobby really sucks grabe magdrain ng bulsa pero looking at the bright side... fullfillment mga pare ko. Anyway, since new comer ako, I opted for the Sakura (YUK) amplifier that I recently won in a raffle. sinubukan ko sa DVD ko sa AC3 format. Okey ang tunog kaya lang mahina ang dialogue. Di ko maintindihan. Ang sabi sa DVD (Xenon) may DTS decoder siya so logic dictates that Ang center out ng DVD player, ikabit sa Center in ng local ampli. The result? There is this great sounding booming effect (para kang nasa sine but I just cant figure out why mahina ang talkies. Halos wala ka marinig. It I turn-off the AC3 option sa DVD player and opt instead sa V surround, 2 speakers lang ang tutunog na claro. Walang center, or rear. Any suggestions guys? Forgive me but bago lang ako sa magastos but incredible and facinating hobby na ito. By the way, I have another ampli na binigay ng hapon. It is a Panasonic Digilink, 2 channels with AV surround and with optical link options.
Kung bibili ako ng isa pang ampli, wa pa me budget kaya help!!! :P
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The only reason I could think off getting a booming sound is that you may have misconnected the center channel on the sakura to the LFE channel on the DVD player. The LFE channel is beside the center channel so you could very easily interchange the two. Pls check connection.
Also check the audio set-up menu on the DVD player's on screen display. The center channel might not be turned on.
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Bro abadmd,
check the back your sakura and make sure d nakakabit ang subwoofer out ng dvd mo sa center in ng Sakura. Kasi yang 5.1 input ng Sakura is not actually 5.1, it's only 5. Meaning, no input for sub, the Sakura has two RCA inputs for the center, so yung katabi na RCA ng center in sa likod ng Sakura is another input for center. So what you do is forget about connecting the sub out of your DVD player to your Sakura. Just connect the center, front L & R, rear L & R. I think what happened to you is you connected the sub out of your DVD to the other center in of your Sakura kaya may bass ang center mo.
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arthurallanj, ang sw out ng dvd ko, i connected it to another amplifier (an old one) tapos ang nilagay ko na speaker don ay ang passive ko. Regarding the center out of my dvd, sabi mo parehong center in ang sa sakura ko. What if I put a Y connector galing sa center out ng dvd ko, and then connect it both doon sa center in at sw in ng amp ko? Will this help?
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Ano bang receiver ang may vga out?
gamitin ko kasi yung monitor ko instead yung tv namin
for viewing dvd and also for game consoles na rin...
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I've read some posts saying that there are some generic DVD players with VGA output. But have not come across a receiver with one. Unless the RS-232 port I see in some flagship Onkyo reciever is the same as a VGA port.
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tnx for d info
masyado yata mahal yun!!!!!
i saw in the net na may component cable to vga...
pwede kaya ito gamitin? ano kaya resolution ang i po produce nya?
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mga bro. Thanks for the advices. Na solve na rin ang problem ko. Anyway, I now have enough money to purchase a decent AV receiver, 5.1 channels lang nga. Still cant afford the 6.1 or th 7.1. Anywy, I am now in a dillema of choosing between a YAMAHA and a PIONEER. Most of the people that I have spoken to says YAMAHA has the advantage of producing clear crisp sound, plus matibay. Of course, I have to rely on experts' advices such as yours, kasi based on experience yan, di ba? I am choosing between Pioneer's 301-S or 501-S and YAMHA's RXV 340. Any suggestions? And saan ang pinakabest bumili nito?
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I've already got my sights locked on a yammie 440! don't know much about pioneer receivers but i doubt they can match yamaha... much less the other great av receivers that are even better than yamaha ::)
some advice... when it comes to HT setups, don't go for the mass-market products (bose, sony, etc). they're no match to the real masters of HT products
i speak for myself ;)
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arthurallanj, ang sw out ng dvd ko, i connected it to another amplifier (an old one) tapos ang nilagay ko na speaker don ay ang passive ko. Regarding the center out of my dvd, sabi mo parehong center in ang sa sakura ko. What if I put a Y connector galing sa center out ng dvd ko, and then connect it both doon sa center in at sw in ng amp ko? Will this help?
Bro, anong model ng Sakura mo? Can you post all your equiptment for this set up of yours? I'll try to help you the best way I can. :)
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I've already got my sights locked on a yammie 440! don't know much about pioneer receivers but i doubt they can match yamaha... much less the other great av receivers that are even better than yamaha ::)
some advice... when it comes to HT setups, don't go for the mass-market products (bose, sony, etc). they're no match to the real masters of HT products
i speak for myself ;)
When it comes to HT, medyo mahirap talaga talunin ang Yamaha, clarity and power andyan. Medyo kuripot nga lang sa features ang Yamaha kung mga lower models nila ang bibilhin mo. At medyo hindi sya ang dabest sa music lang, but all in all, Yamahas are one of the finest if not THE. Sabi ko nga, when you buy something, buy it from somebody who specializes in that thing. Like pag speakers, buy from speaker manufacturers, pag amps, sa mga amp specialists din. That way, you get the best from each, di ba?
But that's just me....:)
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Pioneer and Yamaha are renowned to have excellent consumer home AV components from their entry levels to their flagship models for recievers at various price points. It's all a matter for personal preference in brand loyalty, aesthetics and features and matching with existing gears. Sonic differences may not be that huge as both use the same 3rd party technologies and licenses. Some proprietary circuits are used by both but it's rather difficult judging their performance based on these. Google search their names to get to their websites to learn more about either to aid in your decision.
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Yahoo!! My Tax Refund check just arrived in the mail... Time to scout for a AVR and speaker set.
I'm thinking of a Yamaha RX-V750 (video upscaler is a nice added feature)... but I wonder when they are coming out...
Kung di, HK330 na lang. then may pera pa for either Wharf's or yung custom made set ni Nirv...
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Hi! I am looking for a new 6.1 receiver in the P20-25k price range. Any suggestions?
Also state where to buy them. Thanks in advance...
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Hi! I am looking for a new 6.1 receiver in the P20-25k price range. Any suggestions?
Also state where to buy them. Thanks in advance...
Marantz *300 series (or check if the *400 series is already available here)
Yamaha 640
Onkyo 601
Pioneer 812 with MACC
They are all available at ParkSquare.
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Hi! I am looking for a new 6.1 receiver in the P20-25k price range. Any suggestions?
Also state where to buy them. Thanks in advance...
u can try spectra @ parksquare 1 they might have wat u r looking for
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If not mistaken those new generation Yamaha HT receivers have models that are less than 20T and have 6.1 or 7.1 capabilities. I think the Onkyo 601 at around 24T is also 6.1 able. Check out Sights and Sound and Sound Dimension at Park Square.
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I am eyeing for the HK 230. Any ideas how much this is?
Shoot kaya sa budget ko?
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Curious to ask, but if I dont' want to compromise, what should I get first... speakers or receiver?
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Receiver first. This is the brain and the life of your home theater. Then speakers....you can buy them one by one until you can complete your set up.
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why not check out Denon 2803 (or 2804)? it's also good
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I am eyeing for the HK 230. Any ideas how much this is?
Shoot kaya sa budget ko?
bro nirv shoot sa budget mo yung 230 kaso wala pa dito sa atin sa pinas...
you can audition HK 330 sa archi audio...
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bros, baka may alam kayong mas mura na Yamaha RX-V640 receiver, canvass ko kasi sa mega P22500 ang pinakamababa. For tower speakers NS-555(P20475), center NS-C444(P8775) and NS-333 bookshelf(P6200).
we're thinking of pairing this w/ DTX 12" subs(P7125) and US Audio(P1400) for center rear - okay lang b yung gantung set-up? baka kasi may alam kayung mas cheaper na ganitung set :)
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I am eyeing for the HK 230. Any ideas how much this is?
Shoot kaya sa budget ko?
there is only 130 n 330 available in the market
u can try visiting spectra @ parksquare 1 n audition it
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I am eyeing for the HK 230. Any ideas how much this is?
Shoot kaya sa budget ko?
Excellent choice. But I am not sure if there's an HK receiver below 20T. Could be wrong.
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How much is the HK 330? Any inputs would be highly sppreciated.
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hk 330 is in the 30k ++ range :)
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Excellent choice. But I am not sure if there's an HK receiver below 20T. Could be wrong.
hk130 is below 20T
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Looks like HK330 would be way out of my budget of P25k max. :-\
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Curious to ask, but if I dont' want to compromise, what should I get first... speakers or receiver?
totally agree w/ nirv, should be the reciever 1st, as i have found out the hard way, when i, though, lacking in budget decided to complete right then and there my ht set-up compromising everything, and specially my receiver. now i am trying to make up for lost opportunies by disposing what i recently have purchased just in a months time disappointingly at a much lesser price that what i originally paid for.
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Looks like HK330 would be way out of my budget of P25k max. :-\
bro just a thought, why dont you try marantz sr 4300 its currently on sale for 13,995.00 it is 6.1 @ 80 w/ch dp II, dts-es, neo:6, DD ex and circle surround.
the best part is, it is way below you expected budget.
available at electronics depot and all bose outlets.
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Looks like HK330 would be way out of my budget of P25k max. :-\
Rather than settle for something less than what you really want, maybe you could save up for it? I don't think that model will disapper any time soon. But do scout around. Marantz is also a good buy. And I think the high-current features of HK is also available with the newer Yamaha models which can be a bit cheaper. But if you're really dead set on that HK, save up. Or beg, steal or borrow ;D
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guys,
any suggestion for a sub? i am keen in buying B&W ASW300 @19k but i heard that US audio sounds good as well for 8k only...
thanks!
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Tech Central Makati Cinema Square carries both brands so you can compare. I think they are both 8 inchers. I distinctly remember seeing a B&W ASW300 last month and I got my USAudio sub from them more than a year ago. I think they have the same looking US audio sub these days but sporting the DTX logo. Only it's in cherry color, not black.
If you can afford the ASW300, get it. I cannot comment on the audio quality, but I assure you its power rating in RMS (100 watts continuous with 140 watts consumption) is a lot more than the USAudio 508L which I find to be underpowered. See my posts on USAudio Subwoofers thread. Continuous power rating is very important in subs, apart from dynamic headroom. Nothing less than 80 watts RMS will do.
Another option to consider is the Wharfedale subs also at Tech Central. If not mistaken they retail at slightly over 12T. Another is the Mordaunt-Short sub at 5th ave also retailing at around that much.
Teka, where do you plan to use it, for movies, music or both?
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av,
i plan to use both for music and movies. how about 512L?
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jamjam,
Pre ok ang US audio yun 8 inch nila ok sa HT and audio.. tapos budget price pa..
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av,
i plan to use both for music and movies. how about 512L?
Based on the model number, this is a 12 incher. This possibly gives more slam as most 12 inchers do and would be fit for HT. But I doubt if it will be good enough for music. I cannot assess this model fairly. Except to say that if the power amp of the 508L is any indication, the 512 may be less than what I'd expect a good woofer should do for music. It takes a lot of damping factor and power to adequately control a 12" woofer. Audition one and see if you can still distinquish the bass notes on a jazz emsemble piece, like something from Diana Krall.
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hi jamjam you can also try Yammy SW320 or SW800...
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Hi, can anyone recommend a very good (if not excellent) speakers under 20K. For audio purpose.
Thanks.
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hello Philander, wat amp r u going to use?...if 2nd hand is ok for you maybe you could consider this ;D
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=21135.0
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hello Philander, wat amp r u going to use?...if 2nd hand is ok for you maybe you could consider this ;D
http://www.pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=21135.0
First, I'll be using it with my current Marantz receiver, but I have a plan to get a dedicated amp for audio.
I really like to have MS 914, though at this time, I can only use a credit card.
I am torn with these speakers: MS 914, MA B4, & Yamaha NS 555. I really like the looks of Yamaha NS555…
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First, I'll be using it with my current Marantz receiver, but I have a plan to get a dedicated amp for audio.
I really like to have MS 914, though at this time, I can only use a credit card.
I am torn with these speakers: MS 914, MA B4, & Yamaha NS 555. I really like the looks of Yamaha NS555…
aaaahhh.. all are floor standers ha :)b4 is beyond 20k yata, might as well include AEevo3 na rin if thats the case ;)
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aaaahhh.. all are floor standers ha :)b4 is beyond 20k yata, might as well include AEevo3 na rin if thats the case ;)
B4 around 26k after the last MA price increase. Good thing a fellow member was able to get it a day before prices went up. As an owner of a B4, would recommend this speaker, all rounder, what i can say. can easily be driven by my 222a scott tube amp with gusto. AEvo3 are also beyond such price range. best bet i think would be the MS914 which also a very good choice.
sir philander you may also want to consider bookshelf speakers if budget is an issue, as there are also alot of these that can rival or even "beat the crap" out of floorstanders ;D Just a suggestion sir.
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26K :P whoaaaaah :o , I think i need to drop the B4...... bye B4. :'(
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Sherwood A/V Receiver model RD-6106
Features
DTS Decorder
Dolby Digital(AC-3) Decoder
6.1 Channel Surround
Dolby Pro Logic Surround
4 Advanced DSP Modes (Theater, Hall, Stadium, Church)
Automatic Format Detection
6.1 Channel Direction Input with Composite and S-Video Input
24-Bit, 96kHz A to D and D to A Converter, All Channels
6.1 Channel Bass Management
6 Digital Inputs (2 Coaxial and 4 Optical)
Digital Output (1 Optical)
2 Component Video Inputs and 1 Component Video Output
Analog Bypass for Purist Stereo Reproduction
Dedicated Room 2 Audio/Video Output
On-Screen Display (OSD) from Composite and S-Video
Preprogrammed 8-Device Remote Control
Programmable Video Input Labeling for Front Panel Display and OSD
120 W * 2 @ 8§Ù, 40Hz~20kHz, 0.2% THD in Stero Mode
140 W/Channel @ 8§Ù,1kHz, 0.7% THD in Surround Mode, Only Channel Driven.
Totally Discrete Amplifier Stage (TDAS) for All Channels
Heavy-Duty Speaker Binding Posts
Motorola DSP-56362 24-Bit Digital Processor
4 DSP Modes
Source/Feature Memory
7 Preamp Outputs (Left, Center, Right, Left Surround, Center Surround, Right Surround and Subwoofer)
4 Rear Panel Audio/Video Inputs (including S-Vedio)
2 Sets Rear Panel Component Video Inputs
5 Audio Inputs (Including Phono)
Front Panel A/V Input (Including S-Vedio)
Independent Video Outputs with Component, "S" and Composite Vedio
Cinema EQ
Tone Direct
Pind Noise Generator for Surround Sound Balancing
Dynamic Range Control (Multi-Step)
Auto Input Balance
4-Gang Quartz PLL Synthesized Digital Tuning
Preset Scan for Quick Search
30-Station Presets (Random)
RDS Available
Headphone Output Jack
Speaker On/Off Switch
Auto Function One-Touch Operation
Digital Encoder Volume Control
Multi-Room Remote Control Input (USA Only)
24K Gold Plated Input/Output Jacks
Large Fluorescent Display
System Illumination (Dimmer)
Aluminum Front Panel
Sleep Timer
NOW PRICE AT P9,600...this is great for those who are just starting in H.T
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hello.... what's a good HT/audio combi for less than 50K?
a friend of mine wants to setup a HT system -- DVD player + receiver + 5.1 speakers..... right now he says he's not concerned about getting the best sounding gear, just one that he and the wife can enjoy..... no expensive connoiseur stuff he says.
Source -- Philips or Pioneer entry level
Receiver -- Yamaha entry level
Fronts -- Wharf Diamond 8.3 + center
Rears -- DTX bookshelf
Sub -- US Audio 10" sub
Total: 42k
Source -- Philips or Pioneer entry level
Receiver -- HK 3550
Fronts -- MS 906 + MS center
Rears -- DTX bookshelf
Sub -- US Audio 10" sub
Total: 54k (overbudget)
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hello.... what's a good HT/audio combi for less than 50K?
a friend of mine wants to setup a HT system -- DVD player + receiver + 5.1 speakers..... right now he says he's not concerned about getting the best sounding gear, just one that he and the wife can enjoy..... no expensive connoiseur stuff he says.
Source -- Philips or Pioneer entry level
Receiver -- Yamaha entry level
Fronts -- Wharf Diamond 8.3 + center
Rears -- DTX bookshelf
Sub -- US Audio 10" sub
Total: 42k
Source -- Philips or Pioneer entry level
Receiver -- HK 3550
Fronts -- MS 906 + MS center
Rears -- DTX bookshelf
Sub -- US Audio 10" sub
Total: 54k (overbudget)
pre,
Source -- Philips or Pioneer entry level
Receiver -- RXV 440
Fronts -- Wharf Crystal 40
Center -- Wharf Crystal Center
Rears -- Wharf Crystal 10
Sub -- DQ-12 sub
Total: 35K ;D
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ty kimps.... mas mura pala crystal sa diamond? san meron nun?
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spectra at park square1, pre. yup mas mura sa diamond. performance hmmm, you be judge, as you already heard my HT setup, sir. :D
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i was just wondering.... what's the best (price/performance) combi you can buy from Assorted Buy & Sell?
receivers:
HK5500 27k
HK 130 17k
HK3500 16k
Onkyo SR600 16k
NAD T752 16k
NAD T770 13k
speakers:
KEF Q5/Q9c ??
MA S2/S1 ??
NHT SB3 26k
B&W 601S3 15k
MS-914 14k
Athena S1 8.5k
sayang yung B4 na 17k tsaka onkyo 838 na 10k best-buy sana hehe.
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i was just wondering.... what's the best (price/performance) combi you can buy from Assorted Buy & Sell?
receivers:
HK5500 27k
HK 130 17k
HK3500 16k
Onkyo SR600 16k
NAD T752 16k
NAD T770 13k
speakers:
KEF Q5/Q9c ??
MA S2/S1 ??
NHT SB3 26k
B&W 601S3 15k
MS-914 14k
Athena S1 8.5k
sayang yung B4 na 17k tsaka onkyo 838 na 10k best-buy sana hehe.
Best buys! dito ako, pre! :D
HK3500 16k
B&W 601S3 15k
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Best buys! dito ako, pre! :D
HK3500 16k
B&W 601S3 15k
looks awesome bro.... with the CC3 and 303 also for sale i can suggest an all-B&W/HK setup for my friend.
hmmmm.... with john's dual 8" sub for only 4k.... pasok yata sa budget na 50k.
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I would like your comment on klipsh reference series to be matched with an HK 5500 amp. :)
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I would like your comment on klipsh reference series to be matched with an HK 5500 amp. :)
no comment....
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Hello,
Any comments on this set-up I am planning your inputs would be greatly appreciated.
Set-up A
DVD Pioneer 366
AVR HK 230
MS 914 - Fronts
MS 905 - Center
MS 904 - Rear
MS 309w - Sub
Set-up B
DVD Pioneer 366
AVR HK 230
MS 914 - Fronts
MS 905 - Center
Gale 3040 - Rear
MS 309w Sub or Gale 3080 Sub
Any recommendations? I will be using the set up 50/50 HT and Music for my room of about 12ft by 12ft
Thanks!
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Hello,
Any comments on this set-up I am planning your inputs would be greatly appreciated.
Set-up A
DVD Pioneer 366
AVR HK 230
MS 914 - Fronts
MS 905 - Center
MS 904 - Rear
MS 309w - Sub
Set-up B
DVD Pioneer 366
AVR HK 230
MS 914 - Fronts
MS 905 - Center
Gale 3040 - Rear
MS 309w Sub or Gale 3080 Sub
Any recommendations? I will be using the set up 50/50 HT and Music for my room of about 12ft by 12ft
Thanks!
I prefer set A, I think it is more sonically balanced.
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Salamat sir JT.
Am looking at this set up to stay with me for at least five years sana sir so its a long term investment down the line.
Salamat and kudos to Pinoy DVD!
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Hello,
Any comments on this set-up I am planning your inputs would be greatly appreciated.
Set-up A
.....
Set-up B
.....
Any recommendations? I will be using the set up 50/50 HT and Music for my room of about 12ft by 12ft
Thanks!
I prefer Set A, also, you may want to change the DVD player to Pioneer 667A if you want to try muti-channel audio (SACDs and DVD-Audio), just by adding about 5K. Pioneer 667A's CD playback will sound better than 266/366, & 566 because it has better DAC.
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Salamat sir JT.
Am looking at this set up to stay with me for at least five years sana sir so its a long term investment down the line.
Salamat and kudos to Pinoy DVD!
Ahhh with rampant SARS outbreak here in PinoyDVD, most likely eh di yan tatagal ng 5 years. I have three proposal para magtagal:
1). I also agree with Philander that you replaced the dvd player with Pioneer 655a or 667a for long term kasi universal player na ito.
2). Get a 6.1 AMP/receiver.
3). Stay away from HT/HI-FI shops, websites or magazines at lalung-lalu na sa PINOYDVD.
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Thank you sir JT and Philanderer,
Problem is I already bought the DVD..patay eto na tayo looks like will have to do more spending on this project. Sarap sana unlimited funds!!
Thanks for the heads up coz I didn't consider the angle of the SACD and DVD audio. I will have to look into Pinoy DVD for guidance for now then stop myself from the SARS!! ;D. Ok lang la naman budget for further upgrade after this mga sir.
But how about good budget speaker wires? Do I have to get Banana plugs to make the set-up at it's optimum performance? Optical cable? Component video cables?
For the gale speakers if looking at budget will it suffice say fronts and backs using the 3040 but the center of the gale is no good in my opinion when I demoed the same watching Matrix and Dragon Heart. But for audio the speakers are very soft compared to the traight forward MS speakers. Can't discard the Gales for the price kasi.
Was considering the Gales for the rear as I can interchange them with the fronts when I want to listen to audio in a softer note so to speak.
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Rivalz,
First, Im not a Philanderer, hehhehe
Anyway, you can always upgrade to SACD/DVD-Audio format anytime you want.
For speaker wires, I suggest that you start from considered good generic speaker cables with about #12 AWG (#14 AWG should be the thinnest) to the entry level and reasonably-priced branded cables.
I dont recommend banana plugs specially if you have one amplifier/receiver and/or a single speaker for each channels only, one main purpose of banana plugs is the ease in connections.
As JT said, we prefer your "set-up A" for tonal and timbre balance, you dont want to hear the Dragon passing through from front speakers, then in the rear speaker you heard it as a lion.
By the way you heard the MS and Gale with what amp?
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By the way, if the sound is good to you then its good. Trust your ears.
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I trust you are not actually a Philanderer ;D but it might be actually fun 8)
I get your point sir with regard to the lion and the dragon that clears things up. I learn a lot and still learning sana without the expensive tuition fees of mistakes which I think I did with the wrong DVD player. Thanks for the advise on the banana plugs sir.
As for the amp a Kenwood receiver was used but didn't get the model though.
The MS Sub was FANTASTIC! as compared to the Gale sub sir.
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rivalz,
if you have the budget for the 309w then go for it..... an A/V magazine compared it to the B&W asw300, AE CompactSub, MA asw100 and a couple of other subs..... and it came out the overall group test winner.
on the other hand the 7k price difference vs. the gale sub is a lot.
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my friend has narrowed down his speaker choices to:
a) Mordaunt-Short Premiere sub/satellite package
b) DTX Slimline package w/ floorstander fronts & 10" sub
they are priced about the same, give or take a few hundred.... i know this is odd comparing a satellite speaker to a full-size speaker, but with all the awards & good reviews that the MS Premiere has received, will the full-size DTX really trash the MS in this case? usage is 70/30 for HT/audio in a relatively small room.... receiver will probably be yamaha 440 or HK3550.
any comments which is better? the owner does not like to be considered an A/V connoiseur.
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Isn't a) cost near 20K, while b) cost around 8k + 4-6k sub?
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Isn't a) cost near 20K, while b) cost around 8k + 4-6k sub?
bro A is on sale for 15k.... for B the quote i got was around 14.5k.
since the cost is so near anyway, i just wanna know if DTX Slimline will sound so much better than MS Premiere because if there's not much difference, then i might recommend to my friend that he get the MS.... if the full-size makes that much of a difference in sound, then i will definitely recommend DTX.
i wonder if anybody has heard both? thanks!
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I had the DTX slim last year. A colleague bought the pair and his Sony stereo gear powers them in his large den. Sounds room filling enough and pleasantly smooth and sweet sounding. I guess one really has to hear both to make a decision as such assessments really border on the subjective. Physically, they both seem well crafted, the grills aren't plastic, both are bi-wireable and uses thick MDF. DTX uses paper cones and silk dome tweeters while MS uses metal hybrid diaphragms. DTX uses D'Apollito driver arrays in their fronts which is often frowned at in audiophile circles. I am not one of them though. MS is made in china. DTX, i think is also made in China but could be local as well. Size-wise, MS would have the edge as their smaller heft makes them easier to position.
The MS sats have a power handling rating of 80 watts RMS while the DTX have 140 watts, the center is only 100 watts. Just be careful with the DTX tweeters which can fry easily as they are only a 20 watt tweeters. The power rating on the DTX doesn't say if it's RMS or peak/max. I would guess it's peak. In which case, it should be comparable with the MS's RMS rating whose peak could be twice.
I am not particularly impressed with the crossover network of the DTX slim which I openned last year to service a fried tweeter. I am not sure about the MS satellite package, but if they use the same crossover network as my ms914, I would say the MS has an edge in that department. I personally think the DTX slim speakers can stand some tweaking with the use of better dividing networks.
Here's an excerpt of the reveiw made by audioholics.com about the MS satellites.
The Mordaunt-Short Avant Premiere System performed admirably when listening to the Eagles' Hell Freezes Over DTS disc. The center channel produced transparent vocals and the system integrated well with the subwoofer, which combined the tighter attribute of a front firing woofer with the tactile response of its down-firing ports. While the Mordaunt-Short system in particular had a rather precise ability to locate instruments and vocals in the 3D soundstage, these satellite systems didn't quite seem to emulate some of the larger systems I have heard which create a relatively transparent environment. With these smaller satellite systems we consistently had the sense of where the sounds we were listening to were coming from, though the Aperion Audio Intimus setup was the best at hiding its size. Mordaunt-Short's Avant Premiere system was our favorite overall performer for listening to music, providing a well-rounded sound and uncolored, detailed reproduction of just about everything we threw at i
(Pls note that the subwoofer used in the above reveiw was a 909w and not the 308 which is part of the package if not mistaken.)
In other words, the MS premiere doesn't sonically disappear. You can be quite aware of where the sounds are coming from. I had the same impression about the DTX slim. They actually beam more narrowly than my previous wharfedales - an excellent attribute for HT so as not to muddle the rear surrounds if the front dispersion is wide. But not desireable for music only in stereo mode as soundstaging can be difficult to achieve. Just my impressions.
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thanks alot av_phile, i really appreciate your comment.... although we're probably gonna audition both systems anyway, you've already shown us where to look.... i think my friend is telling me he's not too concerned about audiophile terms like soundstage, transparency, etc..... but i have a feeling that once he's in the hobby, there's no avoiding it..... he will appreciate it once he experiences it.
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bro A is on sale for 15k.... for B the quote i got was around 14.5k.
oops!! my bad..... MS Premiere is on sale for 18k not 15k as i posted earlier...... soweeee :-X
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Mga sir many thanks for your help on my project this goes out to Sir Philanderer, Sir Jt and Sir Akyat for your patience and kind advise.
My project is done and am very happy with the results for the performance in HT and in Music, as has been said here HK does sound warm with music with the punch if needed for fast ang mabass na music.
Although I was not able to test the speakers with the AVR directly I did a lot of auditioning with the speakers and as for the AVR testing with speakers similar to the ones I wanted to get. End result... Very satisfied, all the guidance from this forum and patience in the auditioning has its rewards. (Although tumutulo na laway ko sa mga gamit pigil talaga :-[)
Kudos to all at PDVD for sharing knowledge to guys like me with a lot to learn.
Again many thanks.
Cheers! 8)
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Rivalz,
Congrats!
The next thing to do is to enjoy your system. You already have a good system there. Relax and dont worry about that things you read here, so upgrade itch wont come that soon. Listen and enjoy.
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Sir Philaderer,
Will do sir, yoko nga sana pumasok e sarap lang sana makining ng music! Was blown away with Behind Enemy Lines last night master!
Again thank you for the training master, I will use the kung-fu I learned and will enjoy it. I think I will be sleepy this whole week for staying up late. O0
More power! ;D
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oops!! my bad..... MS Premiere is on sale for 18k not 15k as i posted earlier...... soweeee :-X
Sir akyatbundok & others,
We're you able to audition the MS premier sat speakers? 5th ave (makati) ba ang nag quote ng 18k?
I'm also looking to get a sat set and wanted to get some info on this. FYI, JBL just came out with their new sat set, model is SCS200.5 and it's SRP is Php20,800 (less 10% pa). I'll be deciding between the two but kinda hard as when auditioning iba iba yung set up ng stores (AVR, source, floor area, etc), I'm kinda new to this so opinions would be very much welcome.
Thanks, ;)
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Hi i'm new here in the pinoy DVD
I'm building our HT and recently purchased an Onkyo 502 receiver. Our media room is about 20 sq.m. Please advise me on what speaker I should purchase. I'm a newbie in the HT but was pretty experienced in the car audio since I was in college. Iv'ed auditioned a number of speakers and have taken out some of them. We are more for the clarity than power. Here is my shortlist.
A. Definitive Technologies
Pro Cinema 60
Promonitor Front
Promonitor Surround
Prosub
B. B&W with US audio sub
DM303 front
DM303 surround
LCR3 center
US audio 508
C. MK with US audio sub
k5 front
k5 surround
K7 center
US audio 508
We do 80% movie and 20 audio. My wife and I listened to A and we were happy with it. For us it sounded better than the warfdale, AR, Yamaha, Mission, gale, MS. We have set DefTech as our reference. We will still audition B and C in a few days. All options are in the P39t to P45t range. I know there are other options out there but we are pretty set on these 3. You might think why I'm pairing B&W and MK with US audio but I plan leave room for upgrade to a better sub in maybe a year’s time.
Thanks in advance,
Jay
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hi mods n gurus....im just new here..tnx to pinoyDVD for a great site to have in learning n looking for somestuff specially in HT system. :).....ask ko lang po if u wer given a budget for example...50k for speakers n 25 -30k for avr...ano po maganda n ok na speaker n avr na pwede po..kahit 2nd hand.....sorry..medyo madami tanong...just in the process of knowing palang po...sensya na po... :)
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try going to "digital dreams" in sm north edsa or the "soundroom" at the podium or better go to "ARCHITECTURAL AUDIO" instead located at the new world hotel shops and look for EPOY,im sure he can help you out the best way he can,audition is free. ,they carry the jbl studio series speakers,USHER speakers and different harman kardon avr. Your budget of 75-80t is more than enough to set up a decent ht system.Good luck on your hunting.
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hi mods n gurus....im just new here..tnx to pinoyDVD for a great site to have in learning n looking for somestuff specially in HT system. :).....ask ko lang po if u wer given a budget for example...50k for speakers n 25 -30k for avr...ano po maganda n ok na speaker n avr na pwede po..kahit 2nd hand.....sorry..medyo madami tanong...just in the process of knowing palang po...sensya na po... :)
With an 80T budget, I must say, you don't have to go for the pre-owned or 2nd hand stuff. But if you're not picky with the latest gizmos and features, and just want excellent sonics in the 5.1 DD and DTS department, you can often extract a better value with 2nd hand stuff. They are often being disposed at half their original SRP, even those that are only 2 years old. You could check the Buy and Sell section of this forum.
I pressume the 50T speakers are for 5.1 that includes a subwoofer. There are pretty decent speakers that can fit that budget. Rather than recommend brands, why not check out the AV shops at Glorietta and Mega. I'll just have to mention one brand though in a rather unsavory light. Just be careful not to fall for BOSE if you happen to visit their showroom. Last I checked, your 50T can afford a BOSE set. But, this is just me, you can bet your life there are better HT speakers for their prices.
And at 25T-30T, you can get a pretty decent HT receiver. I'd personally recommend a Harman Kardon or a NAD. I am more confident of their conservative promises in the power department. A Yamaha probably has more bells and whistles in the digital processing area for the same price. An Onkyo, somewhere in between. What you value more in a receiver comes into play. Is it the DSP digital features? The looks? The power? An upconversion video feature? Aftersales service? The user-friendliness? Then do a shortlist and audition them with the speakers you have in mind.
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tnx av_phile1 n ricky...
sir av...yup...ayaw ko na bose..hehe..been there,done that..n di namin maupgrade..we hav aoustimass10 and i could say...thats it!.. kaya po i budget the avr to 30 k...coz...im planning sana to purchase the HK AVR330..i auditioned them many times na n ok namn for me..video upconversion,bka di ko namn po magamit..so ok lang kahit wala nun.. n about namn sa 2nd hand po na speakers..ok namn sa akin yun..basta syempre po..la namn deffects po.....tnx so much for ur help.... :)
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Is Yamaha subwoofer YST-SW320 a good buy for 12k pesos? Recommended ba ito for both movies and music?
Feedback naman. Thanks.
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Is Yamaha subwoofer YST-SW320 a good buy for 12k pesos? Recommended ba ito for both movies and music?
Feedback naman. Thanks.
try auditioning other subwoofers aside from yamaha
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try auditioning other subwoofers aside from yamaha
Any specific model you can recommend?
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Try to audition Mordaunt Short sub, velodyne, B&W...
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try the definitive technology subwoofer
for the prosub 80 the frequency cut-off is 21 hz
while the prosub 100 cut-off is 19hz
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How about mission m70as subwoofer? Oks ba ito?
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Mga Guru comments lang po nag offer sa akin ang Acoustical Space sa 5th Level ng SM Mega-Mall. Home Theater Package. worth Php 47,990.00
Details
Reciever - Denon AVR1705
Speakers - JBL 260.60
DVD Player - Harman/kardon (Free)
i'm planning to buy this package kac mag last ang promo nila sa Dec., 1, 2004 any comments or suggestion guys, pls. help naman baka magkamali ako... thanks...
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Hello to all audiovideo gurus!
I just want to know if you have a 120watts 8ohm speakers as fronts,what should be the wattge of your center and surround?BTW I already have a B&W 602 S2,and just got a harman kardan avr130.Planning to buy a center and surround,any tips? Thanks in advance.
Rene
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I suggest you get the LCR60S3 and B&W600S3. Your HK wont have any problem driving them and you will get matching speakers. Dont worry too much with the power because the HK has enough juice to make them sing. What is more important is to match your speakers.
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Mga Guru comments lang po nag offer sa akin ang Acoustical Space sa 5th Level ng SM Mega-Mall. Home Theater Package. worth Php 47,990.00
Details
Reciever - Denon AVR1705
Speakers - JBL 260.60
DVD Player - Harman/kardon (Free)
i'm planning to buy this package kac mag last ang promo nila sa Dec., 1, 2004 any comments or suggestion guys, pls. help naman baka magkamali ako... thanks...
Haven't heard the combination. But if it was packaged by a knowledgeable AV shop, I pressume it's OK and that the AV shop has done its homework well in terms of technical matching. In terms of sonics, I suggest you audition that package to see if you like what you hear. The price seems reasoable enough for me, especially with a free HK DVD player.
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Hi everyone! I am a newbie so im dont know much abt HT. I hope you could help...
My family friend is selling me his Wharfedale modus one.six for 7,000...
I will be using this as my front so far the reviews has been very good. Ask ko lang ko bagay/compatible sa set-up ko?
AVR: KRF-9060D
Center: WH-2
Surround: WH-2
Subs: DQ-12
Rear: MS 902 (my front now)
Since most of my speakers are wharfedale, I think the modus will be a good combination...what you think?
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Hi everyone! I am a newbie so im dont know much abt HT. I hope you could help...
My family friend is selling me his Wharfedale modus one.six for 7,000...
I will be using this as my front so far the reviews has been very good. Ask ko lang ko bagay/compatible sa set-up ko?
AVR: KRF-9060D
Center: WH-2
Surround: WH-2
Subs: DQ-12
Rear: MS 902 (my front now)
Since most of my speakers are wharfedale, I think the modus will be a good combination...what you think?
i think it would be better if you get the matching MS center for your 902s.
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Since most of my speakers are wharfedale, I think the modus will be a good combination...what you think?
Not necessarily. Different models in the same brand are not always timbre-matched. But try if you can audition the modus at home and hear how it gels with the other speakers. Small timbral variations may not matter much to you, but to others, they do.
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based on your personal experience and reviews.
what is the best matched receiver/amplifier-speaker combi you could suggest and recommend....
1. HK - MA B series
2. HK - Wharfdale Diamond 8/9 series
3. Yamaha - Wharfdale
4. .....
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hi...what are the specs should i look for when buying a receiver? whats their DAC's? THD's? their watts per channel....and so on..
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based on your personal experience and reviews.
what is the best matched receiver/amplifier-speaker combi you could suggest and recommend....
1. HK - MA B series
2. HK - Wharfdale Diamond 8/9 series
3. Yamaha - Wharfdale
4. .....
for me, HK - MA B series combi... eto kasi gamit ko eh ;D...
marami actually ang gumagamit ng ganitong combi dito... look for the Monitor Audio thread dito...
very good performance in both ht and audio...
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hi...what are the specs should i look for when buying a receiver? whats their DAC's? THD's? their watts per channel....and so on..
Depends on what you room size, aethetics (matching the decor, black or silver) how you listen (loudly, discriminately, passionately or just background music) and what you listen to(heavy orchestra versus jazz/pop), your budget, your neighbor's tolerance, your speakers, among others.
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I'm planning to set-up a really good home theater so I need help in choosing which receiver and speakers to buy. I'm more into movies, say 80% movies and 20% music ( Jazz / Pop ). My budget is around 100 - 150T. Do I really need a 7.1 or a 5.1 would do ?
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I'm planning to set-up a really good home theater so I need help in choosing which receiver and speakers to buy. I'm more into movies, say 80% movies and 20% music ( Jazz / Pop ). My budget is around 100 - 150T. Do I really need a 7.1 or a 5.1 would do ?
150T :o punta k listening in style sa shang :) spend a day there. just mix and match till you get the sound you like. they won't mind, and you'll go home happy :)
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bakit mas mahal ang HK sa yamaha na receiver? yung 7.1 ng yamaha nasa 20k pero yung sa HK aabot ng 25+ or 30k pa...kung pareho lang ang price nila na 20k, anong pipiliin nyo? HK or yamaha?
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there are many factors to consider. here's mine.
first on my list would be my choice of speakers. it is a good idea to pair warm speakers w/ bright electronics and vice versa. also, check your speaker's nominal impedance. typical would be 8 ohms. the lower you get, the harder the amp works (note that impedance is not related to sound quality).
second on my list would be budget. i could not afford the bright pair to compliment my warm amp i ended up w/ a warm pair. thankfully, i liked the sound ;D so it may be a good idea to pair warm amps w/ warm speakers too. at least in my case :)
third would be features. if you're not upgrading in a long time, get the most feature-laden receiver.
my fourth would have been power but since most receivers today have ample power to drive most speakers, id go w/ looks ;D i just hate those finished in gold ;D
having said all these, i don't think you'll go wrong w/ any receiver often mentioned in this forum. each has their pros and cons. go ahead and audition some and get what's best for you.
as for hk or yamaha, id go hk :) why? ganda e ;D
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This is my take:
I cannot say this is the best becoz i know it's not, I've yet to try Denon - B&W Nautilus but as of now, I am using this:
Denon 3910 - Mission 7i series 7.1 and whoaa talaga naman you can never go wrong.
I use to own an Onkyo TSR 701 pero ayun, binenta ko kasi medyo underpowered sa palagay ko, but the denon, whooossh it drives the speakers and lalo na yung subz very clear, powerful and solid.
I'm thinking of upgrading my speakers to the Nautilus series or the Anthony Gallos Acoustics pero dyusko ang mamahal naman, isang 7.1 setup eh isang brand new Kia Picanto na hahahaha
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Di kaya overkill paring a B&W Nautilus in 7.1 config to a mid-priced Denon receiver? Di kaya mas bagay paring them with a Rotel separate preamp and power amps for starters. ;D They should be a match made in heaven. Afterall, B&W uses Rotel as its official amp to voice its speakers. Just a thought.
But if you have to have a receiver for your Nautilus set, I'd suggest the Yamaha DSP-Z9, the Onkyo NR1000 or the Pioneer AX10iG. Now if you have to have a Denon for your Nautilus, why not try the 5805 (AVC-A1XV for the asian market):
(http://www.mavromatic.com/images/AVR5805_lg.jpg)
Costing around P375T at Sights & Sounds for now. The world's first true 10.1 receiver, 175 Watts RMS x 10, at 12" high, the thing is said to cost more to ship than most receivers' retail price. ;D Requires 3 pinoys to carry. ;D I think it will also require a separate Meralco line and fuse box. It certainly beats the Yamaha Z9 as the "mother of all receivers."
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Any suggestion for a receiver and speakers? budget for both is arnd 30k to 40k... thanks!
mine was NAD t-42 and Klipsch Quintet ( 4 sat. and 1 center and a subwoofer) it cost me only P 33,000+ only...
u can text me at 0917 3201910 for moe info...
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hello!
i have almost decided on the following
frontdiamond 9.2
center
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hello!
i have almost decided on the following:
front - diamond 9.2
center - diamond 9cs
rear - diamond 9.1
total cost around 16.5k + 8.5k (budget) for the sub
maybe in the future diamond SR to complete the 7.1 is not really a priority right now since im limiting some of my reciever options to 5.1 only
receiver options:
hk 135/230/330
denon 1804/1905
yamaha 550/557/650/657
can help guys help me choose on what to receiver will give best value for money. it will be slight more for HT that audio 65%-35%
plus can you help me the price range of the receiver brandnew price and 2nd hand. thanks!
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why not try the onkyo 502 21,800, 18,530....
baka maka less ka pa, go to the newest B&W showroom at west ave,
107 west wing building, mezannine floor, west ave, qc.
tell you,... this showroom got attitude!!!!
look for vincent,....
hello!
i have almost decided on the following:
front - diamond 9.2
center - diamond 9cs
rear - diamond 9.1
total cost around 16.5k + 8.5k (budget) for the sub
maybe in the future diamond SR to complete the 7.1 is not really a priority right now since im limiting some of my reciever options to 5.1 only
receiver options:
hk 135/230/330
denon 1804/1905
yamaha 550/557/650/657
can help guys help me choose on what to receiver will give best value for money. it will be slight more for HT that audio 65%-35%
plus can you help me the price range of the receiver brandnew price and 2nd hand. thanks!
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guys help naman im choosing between Marantz 4500 & Denon 1705 (or ano ba kalevel ng 4500?). wc wud be good for 60/40 in favor of audio? may differences pa ba sa pag match ng speakers to?
and wat speakers wud match these? im looking at the wharfes 9.4 (fronts), 9cs (center), 9dfs (surround). OR yung Gale 3030 (fronts), 3050c (center), 3060 (surround). i also checked the MS 904, 905c, & ms906 surround...kaso medyo mahal na sya....TIA
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guys help naman im choosing between Marantz 4500 & Denon 1705 (or ano ba kalevel ng 4500?). wc wud be good for 60/40 in favor of audio? may differences pa ba sa pag match ng speakers to?
and wat speakers wud match these? im looking at the wharfes 9.4 (fronts), 9cs (center), 9dfs (surround). OR yung Gale 3030 (fronts), 3050c (center), 3060 (surround). i also checked the MS 904, 905c, & ms906 surround...kaso medyo mahal na sya....TIA
kt,
It doesn't have to be a complete setup at once. It is a good idea to acquire your speakers piece by piece. This is because you'll never know w/c path you'll want in the long term, HT or audio. That said, get the best sounding speakers (to you) you can afford.
Among your options, I would opt for the Wharfedales. They have decent sound and is really cheap compared to other popular brands. They are warm so you'll spend hours listening w/o much fatigue. Second, would be the Mordaunts. Detailed and fast. If you're getting the MS904, I suggest considering the MS912/914 (I would pick these over the 9.4) too. Third would be the Gales as I have not really listened to them that much.
The Marantz and Denon are good entry-level receivers. I suggest you consider Yamaha RX-V650/750. The two are mid-level models priced closely w/ the 4500 and 1705. If you want more power, there's HK.
Good luck hunting, kt. Balitaan mo kami.
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bro bumblebee tnx for the tip!
im actually considering the MS since i was impressed wen i tried them. i tried the wharfes 9.4, 9cs & 9dfs but i was a bit disappointed wen compared to the MS 904. or maybe di lang naka set yung nag demo ng wharfes sakin....
wat avr can u recomend that wud be good for 70/30 in favor of audio? n maybe under 20t? tnx agn!
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bro bumblebee! wats the difference between the ms904 n ms914 aside from its woofer size? baka malaki din difference ng price?! hehe :o
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kt,
Please note that I have not listened to every model of the brands you mentioned. Just the ones w/c I happen to like at first sight ;D
Anyway, the bigger woofer means more bass. Which MS904 did you listen to? The older Declaration 904 has rounded edges and comes in black and cherry while the new Avant 904 has this boxy look, ribbed woofer and comes in black and maple. Last I checked, the MS914 costs P16500.
70/30 for audio? Why not just get an integrated amp? ;)
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bro bumblebee! i tried the MS904 at 5th ave shang. i guess its the new 1?
integerated amp? maybe out of hte budget bro! :o
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bro bumblebee! i tried the MS904 at 5th ave shang. i guess its the new 1?
integerated amp? maybe out of hte budget bro! :o
You can get a NAD for as low as 13k, brand new.
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bro bumble but kung ganun wala na ko pambili bg avr! hehe :'(
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bro bumble but kung ganun wala na ko pambili bg avr! hehe :'(
No need for an AVR. Watch movies in stereo.
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hehe kaso ganda movies pag may surround ;D hay hirap mamili! :-\
hay...marantz or denon...MS, wharfes 9 or gales... hehe ???
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Depends on what you room size, aethetics (matching the decor, black or silver) how you listen (loudly, discriminately, passionately or just background music) and what you listen to(heavy orchestra versus jazz/pop), your budget, your neighbor's tolerance, your speakers, among others.
Let's say it's a small apartment (30sqm), I listen discriminately to music, and reasonably (not too loud, enough to hear dialogue clearly) to music/games. Will use it (5.1) primarily for Xbox gaming, 2nd for DVD viewing and finally for an eclectic (everything from classical/jazz to grunge/rock/hip hop/reggae). Preferred aesthetics - minimalist, silver or black.
Budget? Say around 30K (including entry-level, even cheap speakers).
Any suggestions? ;D
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If you're not squeamish about second hand or pre-owned stuff, 30k will buy some excellent gears at the Assorted Buy & Sell section of this forum. Medyo kailangan lang tiempohan, so you may have to wait for the right stuff to appear. 40watts to 60watts RMS (continuous, all channel driven power) should be more than adequate for your listening room size. I think there's a good entry level Harman Kardon ht receiver there for 12 or 13T, which is a bargain. And the balance can buy you some brand new decent bookshelf fronts, center and bipole surrounds from wharfedale. You may have to budget separately for a good subwoofer. Or forego the surrounds and get a good subwoofer first, getting the surround speakers later when budget permits. (A pair of wharfedale surround bipoles I think can be had for less than 6T).
You could also postpone getting the center speaker too as this can be phantomed by the front speakers when set on the receiver. So you maximize the value of your budget by just getting front speakers and a good sub for starters. Then get the surround speakers, center speaker for last, when budget allows.
There are entry-level subwoofers starting at 6T from DTX and USAudio or Dai-1chi. Then going up to 10T-12T range, you have greater choices like entry level Polk Audio, Wharfedale and Mordaunt-Shorts. If you can get a preowned Velodyne at half its retail price, that's another great value.
If you had said you'd be using the set-up for games and DVD movies, I personally wouldn't mind getting any of those JVC, Pioneer, Xenon and Nextbase satellite-sub-receiver combos or HTIBs that are well within your budget. But since, you'd be playing music in them also, I'd shy away from HTIBs. Remember that what is good in Audio is good in HT. Not the reverse. HTIBs can be impressive in games and movies, but not so much in music. So do some auditioning armed with a familiar CD. If it sounds good in stereo, it will sound good in HT and games. Just my two cents.
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Great advice, av_phile1.
Actually, yeah, I was considering the HK AVR 130 being sold in the forums (one of the reasons I signed up to PinoyDVD in the first place). My boss also offered to sell me his for the same price if he finds a good deal on an upgrade to the 135 or 235.
Anyway, yup I've already checked out the Wharfedale Diamond Series 9's at Park Square. Yup, a pair of bookshelf 9.1's can be had for P5,500 (dunno though, if these are England or China - does it matter?). A center can be had for P4,500 and a pair of wall-mounted rears/surrounds for another P5,000.
In other words, for the average cost of an HTIB one can set up what I would think to be a decent entry-level system, minus a sub (which, depending on what one listens to and how some say you won't need).
In any case, what I gather from here and from friends is to audition the thing first before anything else. :)
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Anyway, yup I've already checked out the Wharfedale Diamond Series 9's at Park Square. Yup, a pair of bookshelf 9.1's can be had for P5,500 (dunno though, if these are England or China - does it matter?).
They're assembled in China, with majority of the parts also made in China. I wouldn't be surprised if even the drivers are already made in China, when they used to be imported from England. (I used to say, very soon everything will be made in China, except babies. ;D) I still see some british speakers with the sign "Made in England" at the back when they're made in China or elsewhere according to the sales guys. I think the manufacturers want it that way since the place of manufacture should be transparent to the customer.
Does it matter? Nope. Quality control and standards remain dictated by the brand owner. In a global economy, the place of manufacture is supposed to be transparent to the customer.
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hello i just want to ask for your inputs on what A/V recievers to get for a 150 - 200k budget
im eyeing on a 5.1 set up coz i only have a small room around 10' x 11'
but if you guys think that the 7.1 is better convince me then hehe
thanks
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For HT, (not much for audio):
1.) Sub: Velodyne CHT-12r P34k
2.) AVR: Yamaha RX-V1600 or RX-V2600 with HDMI upconversion (still not yet available here)
or Yamaha RX V4600 (80k)
3.) Dali or Monitor Silver
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150k opens up a lot of options for you. On the mid-price points, most AV receivers are already 7.1 but that doesn't mean you should go 7.1 as you can always configure for a 5.1.
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what if i just get an AVR635 by harman kardon (is this a good a/v reciever?) and use the remaider of the budget to source out for my speakers?
is B&W 600series good enough?
mission is made in?
any suggestions of good speakers
i went to avant last sunday and auditioned their system i think it was an entry level HK and JBL speakers 5.1 and the sound was already ok as compared to my sony HTIB
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Mission is now owned by IAG. So Mission speakers will now be made in IAG's China factory.
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Mission is now owned by IAG. So Mission speakers will now be made in IAG's China factory.
Hopefully they dont change the name to "MEESIONG" now that its from China ... hehehe.
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what if i just get an AVR635 by harman kardon (is this a good a/v reciever?) and use the remaider of the budget to source out for my speakers?
is B&W 600series good enough?
mission is made in?
any suggestions of good speakers
I am using a HK630, only difference with 635 is that auto room config mike. Yes, its a very good receiver, specially if you are into audio. Its very powerful and will bring out the best in your speakers. Very handy aluminum universal learning remote with cool looks as well, coolest I have seen so far. Though IMO, Yamaha still packs a slight advantage in HT.
B&W? Maybe, but I see so many people selling their 600 series. When I asked one, he said that B&W was more for HT than for music.
Mission M series made in Malaysia
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how about entry level focals?
hey matz i guess mission is better because when i saw your ht setup on the other thread you were using this type...
can you give me a ballpark figure on how much you got those and the shop too :P
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Im using B&W 600 series with HK receiver. Im very satisfied with the matching.
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Sheepdog for a budget of 150-200t you can have a decent audio and video setups minus the monitor of course.
For ht:
AVR- Yamaha or HK mid level models is more than enough for movies
SUB- Velodyne whether new or used 10'' minimum size
SPEAKERS- Wharfedale,Jbl studio series,Monitor Audio B series
MONITOR- Ae 700 0r 900 or just use this budget to get a TUBE Amp with decent bookshelf speakers and dedicated Cd player
Having a Separate AUDIO and VIDEO setup is the coolest ;D
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hey matz i guess mission is better because when i saw your ht setup on the other thread you were using this type...
can you give me a ballpark figure on how much you got those and the shop too :P
Yep, its good, specially since I prefer bipolar surrounds, but I think Missions are hard to find these days. Try Mission Volare Series since you have a good budget.
All of them are slightly used 2nd hand units, so I had a great bargain. I think I saved about 50% in totallity from its SRPs.
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please help me guys, i just started setting up my HT june 2004, it was a denon avr1604 and a set of def tech cinema pro80, just this november i replaced my avr with hk avr335. my problem is, am still confused in the setting of my sub's crossover frequency, i set my avr335 crossover to 60hz since it's the freq range of pro monitor80 and i dont have problem with it's sounds, my question is, in what xover freq should i set my pro sub 150hz or 40hz to produce a much blended bass? another thing where can i buy those test cd's/dvd's? thanks! ??? ???
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Set the sub's Xover freq higher than the receiver's.
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Mga guru's,
I read this thread and napansin ko wala yatang nagsa-suggest ng complete set for a setup.
Anyone who would like to comment on HK and Infinity na naka display sa abenson.
Its HK 235 model receiver and infinity primus speakers.
I think OK sya both on Audio and HT and priced at 85K.
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Mga guru's,
I read this thread and napansin ko wala yatang nagsa-suggest ng complete set for a setup.
Anyone who would like to comment on HK and Infinity na naka display sa abenson.
Its HK 235 model receiver and infinity primus speakers.
I think OK sya both on Audio and HT and priced at 85K.
Hi newbiedin.
Try Architectural Audio in Greenbelt 1 or Spectra in Park Square 1. They carry those brands. Baka mas mura dun.
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To All,
Anyone please advise what's the best system I can get for under 40K budget, all brand new and not a home theater in box. I know this budget is very small but I'd like to have a good entry level system. 5.1 would do and older models of Onkyo and Yamaha I guess a good start for this budget. Tnx in advance!!
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yamaha
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To All,
Anyone please advise what's the best system I can get for under 40K budget, all brand new and not a home theater in box. I know this budget is very small but I'd like to have a good entry level system. 5.1 would do and older models of Onkyo and Yamaha I guess a good start for this budget. Tnx in advance!!
try this...
Yamaha RX-V450 = P14K+
Wharfedale Diamond 9.1 = P5,500
Wharfedale Diamond 9CS = P4,500
Wharfedale 9SR = P3,800
Wharfedale SW150 = P9,500
TOTAL = P37,800 just use the remaining P2,200 for your interconnects and speaker wires
makakakuha ka pa ng discount dyan if you get them all from one place -- I suggest SGT's The Home Theater
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yup! tama si jeck...plus you need an extra 2k for the speaker stands ;D mga 41K to 42K din pala ;D lampas ka onti...hehehe
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Thanks Jeck and ASul! By the way where's SGT's The Home Theater
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The Home Theater
UG-8 Prince Tower, Tordesillas cor Bautista Sts.,
Salcedo Village, Makati City, Metro Manila
Tel. No. 8138443 Telefax No. 8125235
Look for Mr. Sonny Tuazon
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To Jeckkeck,
alin mas maganda? HK avr 135 or yamaha v450?
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To Jeckkeck,
alin mas maganda? HK avr 135 or yamaha v450?
depends on how you'll be using your set up... if mostly for movies, go for the Yammy, if you will also be using for audio as well, go for the HK
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Thank you Sir! I'll try to consider all the options and probably start setting up January next year since I heard prices usually go down after Christmas.
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meron bang store sa glorietta na may mga yamaha receivers and whardale na speakers?
meron kse akong yamaha rxv457...bale naghahanap ako ng speaker. suggest naman kayo ng mura pero okay...mapa bookshelf or floorstander..tyaka sa center, surrounds at sub na din. salamat.
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Stores in Park Square 1 carry those.
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i would like to hear what do you think about the Onkyo TXSR503 as an entry-level receiver and if it is available here.
for how much as well :D
i want to start my way up with 2-speakers for starters and a decent entry-level amp.
for the speakers, i was thinking of floor standing Polk M20s... :-\
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Meron ba dito may ari ng Infinity primus series?
160 for front cant go for the 360 masyado overkill sa space ko maliit lang kasi.
OK ba sya? Any comment?
If you have the Infinity primus series would you pair it with the HK 135? Would it sound better if you pair it with other model or brand of receivers?
Im planning to get the primus series 1 by 1.
Di ko lang alam what better receiver to pair it masyado mahal para sa akin iyung HK335 out of budget.
And OK din ba iyung sub nya cs10 yata ang model.
Thanks.
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Meron ba dito may ari ng Infinity primus series?
160 for front cant go for the 360 masyado overkill sa space ko maliit lang kasi.
OK ba sya? Any comment?
If you have the Infinity primus series would you pair it with the HK 135? Would it sound better if you pair it with other model or brand of receivers?
Im planning to get the primus series 1 by 1.
Di ko lang alam what better receiver to pair it masyado mahal para sa akin iyung HK335 out of budget.
And OK din ba iyung sub nya cs10 yata ang model.
Thanks.
Mukhang mganda, 2 units(fr. 2 diff. buyers) ng Primus 160 nabenta ni sir SGT kahapon and madami daw naghahanap. I pick-upd ksi my Primus 150, nai-kwento nya lang. But sorry I cant make any comments cos 360, C25 & 150 ksi ang system ko. We'r all xtremely satisfied w/ the Primus combination hindi ako nahirapan pa-aprubahan kay 'kumander' narinig nya ksi yung improvement fr. my previous speakers kaya heto 3am. na hindi pa tpos makinig ng cds ;D
HK and Infinity belongs to 1 same company: Harman Int'l. so it's very safe to tell that both compliment each other. You can visit Arch'l. audio in greenbelt1 and do an audition I was there last week they have the HK AVR135 & Primus160 on display. Gud luck!
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Hi there.. tanong ko lang sana kung OK itong setup na ito..
Harman Kardon 330
Front - JBL Northridge e60 Floor Standing Speakers X2 (175W)
Center - JBL Northridge e25 (150W)
Surround - JBL Northridge e10 X2 (100W)
Sub- JBL PB12 (250W Powered)
5.1 setup lang muna at dagdag na lang sa 7.1 later on...
Ano sa tingin nyo?
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Hi there.. tanong ko lang sana kung OK itong setup na ito..
Harman Kardon 330
Front - JBL Northridge e60 Floor Standing Speakers X2 (175W)
Center - JBL Northridge e25 (150W)
Surround - JBL Northridge e10 X2 (100W)
Sub- JBL PB12 (250W Powered)
5.1 setup lang muna at dagdag na lang sa 7.1 later on...
Ano sa tingin nyo?
Bro for me harman-jbl combo ok na ok sa akin match sila talaga for both audio-video set-up,I have been using Jbl brand speakers for the last 13yrs and owned 3 diff model sets ;D the latest is the Xti series. Before getting the xti my choices were northridge and studio series nila pero i got a good price kasi for the xti kaya i ended up with it plus it has better sound on audio. Jbl speakers are very durable and very good for ht and for new wave,rock and pop music kasi medyo bright sya.Pero kahit itodo mo volume no problem.Yung highs nya can be compensated if you use a good sub like velo or jbl 10" lang for music.I tried before the norhtridge with harman 630 and its very good na for ht-audio set-up wala pa sub yon. ;)
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Bro for me harman-jbl combo ok na ok sa akin match sila talaga for both audio-video set-up,I have been using Jbl brand speakers for the last 13yrs and owned 3 diff model sets ;D the latest is the Xti series. Before getting the xti my choices were northridge and studio series nila pero i got a good price kasi for the xti kaya i ended up with it plus it has better sound on audio. Jbl speakers are very durable and very good for ht and for new wave,rock and pop music kasi medyo bright sya.Pero kahit itodo mo volume no problem.Yung highs nya can be compensated if you use a good sub like velo or jbl 10" lang for music.I tried before the norhtridge with harman 630 and its very good na for ht-audio set-up wala pa sub yon. ;)
So kaya ng HK330 mga wattage output ng e60 at kahit na 100W lang per speaker ang surround ko ay match pa rin sila?
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So kaya ng HK330 mga wattage output ng e60 at kahit na 100W lang per speaker ang surround ko ay match pa rin sila?
I posted this in another thread:
Found this at the Harman Kardon website. For the info of those wondering about HK's power rating (like me before).
Question:
Why are Harman Kardon amplifiers so much more powerful than amplifiers with the same power ratings that are made by other companies?
Answer:
A Harman Kardon 50-watt amplifier will sound better, louder and cleaner than most 100-watt amplifiers from other companies. The reason is very simple. We give "true" wattage ratings, and our amplifiers utilize something called High-Current Capability (HCC). Please see the comparison below for further explanation. Other companies (100 watts):
Many companies have found new, convenient ways to get "big" wattage ratings on their amplifiers. They may take one frequency or tone (1kHz) and push it through one channel of amplification. This way the power supply only needs to supply power to one tone and one channel (no one listens to one tone through one speaker). This is not a difficult task for a power supply, so you get a nice, high rating like 100 watts. Now let's feed that one tone (1kHz) into 2 channels. Now the power supply has to supply power to 2 channels. The wattage rating is drastically reduced. Now let's take that one tone and make it ALL tones (pink noise). The power supply now has to supply power to all frequencies in both channels. Again, the wattage rating is drastically reduced. Now, your 100-watt amp is suddenly 50 watts (approximately).
Let's take it one step further. When you turn the amp up and begin to average the 50 watts of power, what happens to all of the dynamics/peaks in the sound? It can't get any louder, because the amp has hit its "ceiling," so the sound gets "clipped." The human ear typically can?t hear this clipping because peaks pass by so quickly but, nonetheless, the dynamics are gone.
Our amplifiers (50 watts):
We still rate our amplifiers the old-fashioned way - all frequencies with both channels driven. So "50 watts" is 50 watts. Twenty-five years ago, a 50-watt amp was very powerful. These days you can go to a store and hear a "300 watt" receiver and it won't impress; it lacks dynamic punch.
Now let's take it that extra step. When you turn the amp up and begin to average the 50 watts of power, the amp still needs to put out much more power every time a snare drum, triangle, or movie dynamic (e.g., hand slapping a face) hits. Our amps are able to instantaneously put out 20-100 amps (depending on the model) of high current to the speakers, allowing those dynamics to come through loud and clear, without any distortion. This brings the overall decibel average up, making it seem even louder that 50-watts.
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sir matzter,
am planning to buy wharfedale diamond 9.2 for my hk335, for music via zone2. my orig set-up is def tech cinema pro 80 5.1 set-up. what can you say or comment about this. thank you so much.
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sir matzter,
am planning to buy wharfedale diamond 9.2 for my hk335, for music via zone2. my orig set-up is def tech cinema pro 80 5.1 set-up. what can you say or comment about this. thank you so much.
Hmm, what can I say? Ayus!
But do take note that if you plan to put your Wharfes in another room, the zone 2 IR sensor costs 7.5k.
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good morning sir matzter, please give me idea how the wharfes 9.2 performs in music though it's a cheap pair of speaker. i read a lot from the intenet and magazine pero iba yun totoo kausap mo. i mean i don't if those positive feedbacks were just paid ads. thanks again!
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Sorry bro, I have experience with the HK but not the Wharfes. I tried the pacific evo series though. It rocks. But its on a different budget level.
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Sorry bro, I have experience with the HK but not the Wharfes. I tried the pacific evo series though. It rocks. But its on a different budget level.
ok sir. thanks so much! i prefered wharfes bcoz of the price. just got the idea also that with it's price it has an excellent sound, and beside i think my amp would drive it so fine. i bought already sir, hope d ako magsisi. thanks again!
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Just a suggestion for those who are scouting for audio equipment:
Try to evaluate and determine first your listening area and environment before getting your stuff. I once suggested a friend to get this one and that one, because this has more power, etc. etc. only to learn that his listening area is around 9 sqm. and he is living in a townhouse. He is a seaman at me pambili siya but i cancelled my recommendations in favor of just a modestly rated HTIB. Considering his area the Vixual HTIB is very appropriate for thie size of his listening area. ;D
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Mga bossing suggestments naman po
m planning to buy a sub and center spkrs for my newbie setup. Ang meron pa lang ako eh HK avr135 tska Euros 8 towers. ung floorstanders ko dati gnamit ko na lang na pang surround. still, kulang pa rin ng sub at center. what do you guys suggest na center at sub? m planning to buy diamond 9cm for center, bagay kaya?
as for the sub, na audition ko na ung mga mumurahin, dtx 4.12, DQ12 and USaudio512. m leaning towards the USAUDIO512 na nasa 11k ang price, eh sabi dito mukhang ok ung polk audio psw10 for the same price pero di ko pa na audition un. tulong nman po mga bossing
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Ur using Euros 8 ? -- so why not get Euros 8 center na rin? Most likely, they will match because they are of the same brand and model. As to the sub, what is preferred most of the time is the power. Sabi nila USa512 is boomy. For me, that is not always true. Correct placement and setup on account of your room can actually do the trick.
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sa bagay nga sir, euros 8 na lang...edi pati surrounds ko magiging euros 8 na rin?
sir medyo boomy nga ung usaudio compared sa dtx tska dq12. nagustuhan ko ung Usaudio 512 kasi gumagapang yung bass. ang di ko sure, kung ok ba ung "gumagapang" na bass sa HT since di ko sya na audition na pang HT sa daiichi showroom sa megamol. dba may drawback yun? pls correct me if im wrong:
gumagapang na bass = good for music esp Rap, R&B, HihHop pero bad for HT?
matigas na bass = good for HT dahil accurate yung ilalabas, esp sa gun fight scenes sa movies?
tama ba?
sir gusto ko po sana yung balanced eh, meron bang sub na good for both music and HT under 11k?
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The idea of "Matigas na bass or gumagapang na bass" is good for HT or bad for music or vice versa is actually a case of true or false. What sounds good or bad boils down to one thing, personal taste ;D
Personally there are some music that i want the bass to be "gumagapang" though there are those i want that the bass should be very tight. The same is true with movies. Take note that others will not be very happy of the things i want with my music, maybe you too. So thats the point. Most of the pricey subs there just like the velos may give both of the things you want but as i have said -- the price. Some people who wants to have both of the two worlds but cant afford the more pricey stuff get two subs, one that is malambot na mababa sa pandinig nila, and one that is matigas.
Almost all manufacturers say that their products are balanced but of course you have to trust your ears. you should always be the judge, if you want to enjoy what you get out of your hard-earned money ;D
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exactly right sir jeric!! audition is the key...what may sound good to me might not sound good to others....you hit it on the spot...all about personal taste.. ;D ;D
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yeah bro munskie-- for sometime ive been goin around and actually participated in counts of audio listening but in the end, i always end up wanting gears that are considered bright and are not well liked by many here. It seems that no amount of reading and listening can redirect my choice really ;D
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The idea of "Matigas na bass or gumagapang na bass" is good for HT or bad for music or vice versa is actually a case of true or false. What sounds good or bad boils down to one thing, personal taste ;D
Personally there are some music that i want the bass to be "gumagapang" though there are those i want that the bass should be very tight. The same is true with movies. Take note that others will not be very happy of the things i want with my music, maybe you too. So thats the point. Most of the pricey subs there just like the velos may give both of the things you want but as i have said -- the price. Some people who wants to have both of the two worlds but cant afford the more pricey stuff get two subs, one that is malambot na mababa sa pandinig nila, and one that is matigas.
Almost all manufacturers say that their products are balanced but of course you have to trust your ears. you should always be the judge, if you want to enjoy what you get out of your hard-earned money ;D
Salamat sa reply bro. ang prob kasi hindi ko ma auaudition ung usaudio512 for HT eh dahil wala silang pang HT sa daiichi megamall. ok na ok sya for music kasi nga gusto ko gumagapang pag music. eh sa HT kaya? tawag nila sa usaudio "bandpass" daw kaya maugong (di ko naman alam ibig sabihin nun). Di ako sure kung accurate kaya ang sabog sa mga gunfights sa HT pag ganun kalambot ang labas ng bass. kaya ang tanong ko lang, kung malambot at gumagapang ung labas ng bass, accurate kaya lumabas pag sa HT na gagamitin? any suggestions sa brand and model ng sub under 11k? salamat ulit po
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Salamat sa reply bro. ang prob kasi hindi ko ma auaudition ung usaudio512 for HT eh dahil wala silang pang HT sa daiichi megamall. ok na ok sya for music kasi nga gusto ko gumagapang pag music. eh sa HT kaya? tawag nila sa usaudio "bandpass" daw kaya maugong (di ko naman alam ibig sabihin nun). Di ako sure kung accurate kaya ang sabog sa mga gunfights sa HT pag ganun kalambot ang labas ng bass. kaya ang tanong ko lang, kung malambot at gumagapang ung labas ng bass, accurate kaya lumabas pag sa HT na gagamitin? any suggestions sa brand and model ng sub under 11k? salamat ulit po
Bro just a suggestion, why not just save a little more so you can just get the velo cht10 :) basically kasi yung size ng sub will dictate kung saan sya ok like kung 8" good for music but kapos kung HT, yung 10'' sub is very good for audio and good for video naman and yung 12" naman ay very good for ht but good on audio lang. Before when i bought my first sub yung 10" lang get ko since 50-50 ang gamit ko pero lately im more into movies so i decided to upgrade to 12" para may gapang ;D but sadly galit neighbor sa gumagapang ha ha ha. as for the center get the euro na lang din para hindi chopsuey yung set-up mo ;D
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Bro I further suggest that you browse into the Subwoofer discussion thread under speakers category. There are actually good reviews on the different subs in the market. Malalaman mo ang general characteristics ng bawat isa. You may be able to find the brand that approximates your preference. Now - may i suggest also that you contact Nirvblakr or Anthony, they have their own thread here. Sila ang gumawa ng big sub ko following the velo as their pattern. ;)
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Bro just a suggestion, why not just save a little more so you can just get the velo cht10 :) basically kasi yung size ng sub will dictate kung saan sya ok like kung 8" good for music but kapos kung HT, yung 10'' sub is very good for audio and good for video naman and yung 12" naman ay very good for ht but good on audio lang. Before when i bought my first sub yung 10" lang get ko since 50-50 ang gamit ko pero lately im more into movies so i decided to upgrade to 12" para may gapang ;D but sadly galit neighbor sa gumagapang ha ha ha. as for the center get the euro na lang din para hindi chopsuey yung set-up mo ;D
Siguro nga sir 10 na lang saken para 50-50. Kaso lang balita ko mejo mahal ung cht10 eh. pero sige po mga bossing susundin ko mga sinabi nyo. i'll try to audition them first, tska dadalhin ko mga pang test ko na cd and dvds. about sa center ko naman, lahat ng ngreply saken ang sabi euros center na lang din. maraming salamat sa mga nagreply, very helpful po talaga kayo sa mga nangangamoteng newbie tulad ko!
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Bro I further suggest that you browse into the Subwoofer discussion thread under speakers category. There are actually good reviews on the different subs in the market. Malalaman mo ang general characteristics ng bawat isa. You may be able to find the brand that approximates your preference. Now - may i suggest also that you contact Nirvblakr or Anthony, they have their own thread here. Sila ang gumawa ng big sub ko following the velo as their pattern. ;)
Actually natawagan ko na si anthony, pasok na pasok sa budget mga speakers nila! and iv read very good reviews about their works. kaso anlayo nila at hahanapin ko pa. well, magiging patient na lang muna ko siguro. audition ko muna mga subs na pasok sa budget ko na nasa mall saka ko na ppntahan cla bossing anthony para ma audition ung subs nila. salamat po!
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yeah bro, tiyaga lang ang kailangan diyan. hwag padalos-dalos. Ako rin noon ilang beses akong paikot-ikot sa mga audio stores - makulit ako sa pagpili yung mga gusto ko nasa upper bracket lahat. with my limited budget i landed up getting a custom-made speakers that appropriately represent my preference. dyan magaling si anthony, he can play with the crossover to get the sound that you want. Until now i havent changed any of the custom-made speakers he did for me. ;D
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Hi to all.
Bago lang po ako sa forum na ito and I read from here na marami talaga ang mga expert kaya I came to the right place. gusto ko po sana humingi ng advice regarding the said subject. Actually my friend just bought a YAMAHA RX-V557 and we dont know kung anong other speakers na very compatible para sa model na ito besides Yamaha speakers. Pwede po bang makahingi ng advice and suggestion para dito. We are looking for those that are pang enthusiast to the point na in between beginner and mid level lang po.
This would be used for Music & also HT. Can you suggest from the brands of speakers. budget po namin is around 30K kasali na po ang sub dun. Salamat po in advance.
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This would be used for Music & also HT. Can you suggest from the brands of speakers. budget po namin is around 30K kasali na po ang sub dun. Salamat po in advance.
Pag 30k baka sat/sub combo lang mabili mo nyan. Infinity has a model (BETA) that has 4 small bookshelf speakers, one center and a sub at your budget. It sounds good for HT but I havent heard it for music. I am not sure also if it would suit Yamaha.
As a suggestion, its better if you spend first for good fronts and sub with your current budget, then buy a center and surround speakers when you have more budget. this way , you will save more, rather than constantly upgrading (my experience).
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hi sir ferl! :) most commonly paired with a yamaha receiver hear (entry -mid level speakers) are wharf 9 series. try to auditioned them in, i think pasok din po yun sa budget niyo, you can get these na on your budget (e.i. 9.1 around 5k+; 9cs - 4300; 9DFS around 4-4500 or another 9.1 for surround)so mga 14k to 15k lang on this set and you have left 15k budget all for sub!!! ;D siguro ang gandang sub na nito! all brand new! or adjust yung budget sa front speaker if not satisfied sa 9.1 :)... if you are open din sir sa mga pre-owned stuff here at buy and sell section, mas madami kayong selection po. ;)
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Ferl,ronjet and matz is right for entry to mid level set-up na 50-50 use try getting first the front, center and sub muna to follow na lang yung rears.try to audition the wharfedales since sya yung pasok sa budget mo na medyo maganda reputation.As for the sub better save up a little more so you can get a decent 10incher na upgrade proof na(velo cht-10/10r) ;DAng advice ko eh wag ka masyado magmadali para hindi ka ma SARS agad ;D pinakamadali ang bumili pag may pera,ang mahirap eh yung what to buy kaya audition audition audition ang dapat. ;D
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thank you po for the suggestion. pwede po bang mai provide nyo sa akin anong brand at model ang maibibigay yung tipong hindi naman ako mabibitin.hahabulin ko nlang po ang budget ko. maybe the sub, front at center muna saka na ang rear pro pwede nyo po bang maibigay na rin pra i have already an idea.thank you po ulit. :)
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hi sir ferl! :) most commonly paired with a yamaha receiver hear (entry -mid level speakers) are wharf 9 series. try to auditioned them in, i think pasok din po yun sa budget niyo, you can get these na on your budget (e.i. 9.1 around 5k+; 9cs - 4300; 9DFS around 4-4500 or another 9.1 for surround)so mga 14k to 15k lang on this set and you have left 15k budget all for sub!!! ;D siguro ang gandang sub na nito! all brand new! or adjust yung budget sa front speaker if not satisfied sa 9.1 :)... if you are open din sir sa mga pre-owned stuff here at buy and sell section, mas madami kayong selection po. ;)
ito yon ferl :)
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For pre owned stuff, try to get a Velodyne sub if possible. You wont need to upgrade for a long time.
There are lots of choices in the buy and sell section. Try Monitor Audio.
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sir ricky for now i will try to adjust my budget. boss Matzter since mag adjust ako ng budget i will go for brand new. thank you for your velo suggestion. sir ricky im planning to go for a bigger front and rear. pwede po ba itong 9.6 or 9.5, 9.cm, 9.1 or 9.2 velo sub cht-15r. ask ko lang po kc yung mga yamaha speakers na compatible sa yamaha rx-v557 ay parang ok na. ano po ang masasabi niyo at suggestion kung titimbangin between the first (wharfedale & velodyne) and the second option (yamaha compatible speakers for rx-v557).
salamat po sa magiging reply nyo.
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I used to own a Yammy 650, and in my experience (IME), it wont be able to power floorstanders (like the 9.5 or 9.6) to their full potential, "minipis" yung tunog. Unless you use external power amps, and hopefully the 557 has pre outs.
So my (2 cent) suggestion is just go for bookshelves and a CHT-10r. This would be a good balance for HT and audio. Since IME, the CHT-12r up is a bit slow for audio, but good for HT.
IMO, napaka gaspang ng tunog ng yamaha speakers, sigurado upgrade ka after makarinig ka ng better speakers. Go for the wharfe bookshelves na lang.
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sir ricky for now i will try to adjust my budget. boss Matzter since mag adjust ako ng budget i will go for brand new. thank you for your velo suggestion. sir ricky im planning to go for a bigger front and rear. pwede po ba itong 9.6 or 9.5, 9.cm, 9.1 or 9.2 velo sub cht-15r. ask ko lang po kc yung mga yamaha speakers na compatible sa yamaha rx-v557 ay parang ok na. ano po ang masasabi niyo at suggestion kung titimbangin between the first (wharfedale & velodyne) and the second option (yamaha compatible speakers for rx-v557).
salamat po sa magiging reply nyo.
Hi again ferl,yung yamaha kasi medyo tama lang yung power kaya duda ako kung kaya nya ipower kung lahat big speakers gamit mo.Maybe for fronts you can get a floorstander but for the surround yung smallest model lang ok na yon.Ive read from other post na yung 9.2 ay ok for yamaha although i havent heard it yet.Plus another guide you can use is, if 50-50 ht-audio you can get bookshelf-10"sub pairing para good for both ht-audio,but kung mas more on ht ka its either get a bookshelf or floorstander then pair it with a 12" sub ;D yung 15'' is way too much na esp if not more than 25sqm lang yung room :o maybe you can check out fronts 9.4,9cm and 9.1rears plus velo 12r,or kung budget concious ka 9.2fronts,9cm,9.1or9dfsrear and velo10r pwede na din ;) pero best way pa din is to audition audition audition ;D
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@MAtZTER & ricky: Sir tanong ko lang po kung ano ang maibibigay nyo na advice sa reciever na enough mag power up ng 9.5 o 9.6 na wharfedale? kc mahilig po talaga ako sa malalakas na output and also i prefer more on music than hoe theather pero ayoko naman na mahuli sa tunog yung ht ko kaya ask po ako sa inyo.
also what shop can you recommend that i can try to audition na hindi naman yung naghahabol lang sa sales nila. you know naman as customer we prefer yung marunong talaga and has a reputation in recommendation. thanks po.
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also what shop can you recommend that i can try to audition na hindi naman yung naghahabol lang sa sales nila. you know naman as customer we prefer yung marunong talaga and has a reputation in recommendation. thanks po.
kahit di naka address sakin ang question, i recommend mr. sonny tuazon, SGT HOME THEATER. i got my gears from him and delivered them personally in angeles pampnga.....
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sir munskie salamat po. can i have contact number of the perosn.
open naman po sa lahat ang suggestion kaya pwede po kayong mag suggest. Thanks sa magbibigay ng suggestion. :)
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If more on audio ka better get the HK ;D
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tanong ko lang po kasi sbi nang karamihan ngayon pangit a daw ang quality ng wharfedale since nalipat na sa china ang pag gawa is this true.i havent auditioned yet a new wharfedale thats why i am asking your expert observation.also maganda ba ang labas ng sound kung sakali wharfedale and hk ang pag parehasin.
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@MAtZTER & ricky: Sir tanong ko lang po kung ano ang maibibigay nyo na advice sa reciever na enough mag power up ng 9.5 o 9.6 na wharfedale? kc mahilig po talaga ako sa malalakas na output and also i prefer more on music than hoe theather pero ayoko naman na mahuli sa tunog yung ht ko kaya ask po ako sa inyo.
also what shop can you recommend that i can try to audition na hindi naman yung naghahabol lang sa sales nila. you know naman as customer we prefer yung marunong talaga and has a reputation in recommendation. thanks po.
Si SGT, no BS kind of person. He wont BS you just so that he will get your money or so you will buy his products. He even recommended me to buy something from abroad para mas mura. It was then that I realized this guy is honest in his recommendations.
For powering the 9.5 or 9.6, just add an external power amp for these. The problem with higher model receivers that can power floorstanders well is that they are expensive. And you dont really need 100 + w/channel for your 4 surrounds! they sound off only 10% of the time! So for me , the solution is to get a lower model receiver with pre outs, then buy a good external power amp for the fronts, and if possible, the center. This way, you can keep upgrading your receiver when new sound formats come, and retain your power amp indefinitely. Its a more practical path IMO.
tanong ko lang po kasi sbi nang karamihan ngayon pangit a daw ang quality ng wharfedale since nalipat na sa china ang pag gawa is this true.i havent auditioned yet a new wharfedale thats why i am asking your expert observation.also maganda ba ang labas ng sound kung sakali wharfedale and hk ang pag parehasin.
Lots of people use Wharfe HK combo. but I dont know about how it sounds.
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Newbie here..
I'm planning to build a system for 50-50 Audio-HT use.
Receiver: HK135
Fronts: Dali (Have to audition first)
Subs: Have to audition first
Please advise a model and I'll use that as reference. Budget close to 50K, can I include a center or maybe rears with the budget?
Also, please comment on HK135, I'll prolly pair it with a Dali. Do I need a higher amp?
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Hi guys, I guess I share the same dilemma as albert,
Planning to start my home theater setup, this would probably be 80%HT and 20% Audio Use.
Could you suggest a good receiver? I've read that Yamaha is good for my preference. My budget for the receiver would range from 10-15k. Thanks!!
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Newbie here..
I'm planning to build a system for 50-50 Audio-HT use.
Receiver: HK135
Fronts: Dali (Have to audition first)
Subs: Have to audition first
Please advise a model and I'll use that as reference. Budget close to 50K, can I include a center or maybe rears with the budget?
Also, please comment on HK135, I'll prolly pair it with a Dali. Do I need a higher amp?
For 50k Get Dali concept 2 for fronts and center , and definitely get a Velodyne for your sub. 10" is best recommended for 50/50 HT/Audio.
PAg kinapos budget mo for rears, you can either just bite the bullet and go for Concept 1 (you will exceed you budget by a bit). Or go for any other cheaper speakers for your rears. Anyway the rears sound off only 10% of the time so the timbre matching doesnt need to be very critical, but that still depends on you.
The HK 135 might sound bright, sabi ng JBL sales guy, the higher the model, the warmer the sound gets. cuz its got more power to give.
Take note that the 135 does not have pre outs for external amps. If you plan to upgrade to floorstanders next time or would want higher power, A HK235 with pre outs would be a better investment.
Just my 2 cents
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Newbie here..
I'm planning to build a system for 50-50 Audio-HT use.
Receiver: HK135
Fronts: Dali (Have to audition first)
Subs: Have to audition first
Please advise a model and I'll use that as reference. Budget close to 50K, can I include a center or maybe rears with the budget?
Also, please comment on HK135, I'll prolly pair it with a Dali. Do I need a higher amp?
Hi guys, I guess I share the same dilemma as albert,
Planning to start my home theater setup, this would probably be 80%HT and 20% Audio Use.
Could you suggest a good receiver? I've read that Yamaha is good for my preference. My budget for the receiver would range from 10-15k. Thanks!!
The newer Yamaha models seem to have overcome their weakness in stereo mode to rise to the demands of music lovers. I have no specific model in mind, but you can test them out. At least with HT, thier entry levels have all the needed bells and whistles to play with.
With a 50T budget, getting a good sub can take out half of it. For more modest requirements, try the Polk Audio and Wharfedale subs which I recall are priced around 12T or less. You can also try looking at the buy and sell section for sligthly used subs and speakers. Even receivers. 15T can go places at the B & S section for a good receiver.
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Thanks for the suggestion MAtZTER .
I think I'll get the DALI Concept 6 for fronts if the difference in Audio/HT listening experience with the Concept 2 is big. If that's the case, I will not purchase subs for the moment but prolly get it later. Please comment on this.
Need your suggestions for now because I can't audition them till May.
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The newer Yamaha models seem to have overcome their weakness in stereo mode to rise to the demands of music lovers. I have no specific model in mind, but you can test them out. At least with HT, thier entry levels have all the needed bells and whistles to play with.
I read in audioholics that the next Yamaha Entry level receivers will be using burr brown DACS!! Yipee!
I think I'll get the DALI Concept 6 for fronts if the difference in Audio/HT listening experience with the Concept 2 is big. If that's the case, I will not purchase subs for the moment but prolly get it later. Please comment on this.
If you want the concept 6, I would suggest higher model receivers or HK235 plus amps. Floorstanders need more powerful AVRs IMO/IME. What the JBL salesguy said above about more power, more warmth, I think it holds true cuz I just rememebered that when I auditioned the Dali at AA long ago, they were using a HK130 and I recall that my impression of the Concept 6 was that it was a bit bright.
Your move is a good one, getting concept 6 and AVR first, then buying the center, surrounds and subs after you get more budget. This way you wont regret constantly upgrading.
You can also try the concept 6 + HK AVR package being sold at the B & S section by nels if you dont mind 2nd hand stuff. Its a great deal.
2 cents :)
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The newer Yamaha models seem to have overcome their weakness in stereo mode to rise to the demands of music lovers. I have no specific model in mind, but you can test them out. At least with HT, thier entry levels have all the needed bells and whistles to play with.
With a 50T budget, getting a good sub can take out half of it. For more modest requirements, try the Polk Audio and Wharfedale subs which I recall are priced around 12T or less. You can also try looking at the buy and sell section for sligthly used subs and speakers. Even receivers. 15T can go places at the B & S section for a good receiver.
Thanks.:) Went around shops today, might be getting either a Yamaha rxv457, or a marantz sr4500 tomorrow marantz being slightly more expensive. If I'd be pairing them with wharfs 9.1, fronts lang muna, what would be the better option?
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Thanks.:) Went around shops today, might be getting either a Yamaha rxv457, or a marantz sr4500 tomorrow marantz being slightly more expensive. If I'd be pairing them with wharfs 9.1, fronts lang muna, what would be the better option?
If you're going for the marantz go for mission speakers or Mordaunt Short (I'd personally vouch for the mission marantz combo as I have been happy with the combination for the past three years)....Yamaha goes well with wharf's at least that what I remember from when I was shopping around for an HT....
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Thanks, was able to audition the Marantz mordaunt combo and the Yamaha Wharf, personally IMO, both sounded well, but I couldn't really distinguish one from the other, so I just took the cheaper of the two. ::
Now I'm happy with my pruchase whopeee!!.
Can't wait to go back home to Davao to set it up!!
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So what combo did you get?
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Thanks, was able to audition the Marantz mordaunt combo and the Yamaha Wharf, personally IMO, both sounded well, but I couldn't really distinguish one from the other, so I just took the cheaper of the two. ::
Now I'm happy with my pruchase whopeee!!.
Can't wait to go back home to Davao to set it up!!
Sa sobrang excitement he forgot to post which one he bought ;D......my guess is the Yamaha Wharf....combo.....
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Yup probably yun Yamaha Wharf combo nga.
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Yups got the Yamaha Wharf Combo!! ;D
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Yups got the Yamaha Wharf Combo!! ;D
Sir pa PM naman what models you got for the Yammy & Wharfs and their prices as well as where you got them. Planning to get the same combo.
Thanks.
;D
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ygpm :)
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sir.papost naman dito.thanks :)
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hello guys,
i'm wondering if what avr to choose, please help:
yamaha rx-v659 (rich in features and burr brown dacs)
marantz sr5600 (warm sound and straightforward to use)
denon avr2106 (features and sound)
in addition ano kaya perfect partnering speakers sa kanila?
thanks!
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yummy sir. wala lang. gusto ko rin yan e. ;D
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hi mga bossing.. tanong lang.. newbie pa lang..
my friend is selling his HK AVR5 receiver for 8K, mahal po ba o pwede na? Magkano ba dapat value nito?
thanks
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hi mga bossing.. tanong lang.. newbie pa lang..
my friend is selling his HK AVR5 receiver for 8K, mahal po ba o pwede na? Magkano ba dapat value nito?
thanks
What is the exact model of the HK AVR?
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What is the exact model of the HK AVR?
AVR 5 po...
eto po ata sya http://www.audioreview.com/cat/amplification/a-v-receivers/harman-kardon/PRD_118579_2718crx.aspx
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sir napakamahal ata pro logic pa lang yan. tingin ka sa buy and sell section natin maski magdagdag ka ng konti pero sa akin negative yang purchase na yan.
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sir napakamahal ata pro logic pa lang yan. tingin ka sa buy and sell section natin maski magdagdag ka ng konti pero sa akin negative yang purchase na yan.
salamat po ng marami...
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no problemo. and welcome to pinoydvd ;D
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no problemo. and welcome to pinoydvd ;D
Guys! Need your expertise here.
OK po pa ang combination ko? or mag 9.1 ako?
YAMAHA 457
wharf 9.2
9CS
DFS
SW150
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bibilin mo palang ba yang mga yan? or nabili mo na?
hindi ako expert pero...base sa mga nabasa ko at sa mga sabi ng iba..na madami daw awards ang 9.1..hindi ko lang alam kung anong awards pero meron...
so, sa tingin ko..okay na ang 9.1, 9cs, dfs and sw150...yun lang naman eh para sakin lang...
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Bibilhin ko palang.
Yoon nga sabi din sa akin mas OK daw ang 9.1. Pero sa website ng wharf. Hindi mag ka combine ang 9.1 and DFS.
May impact kaya ito? Dapat yata 9sr (60watts only)?bibilin mo palang ba yang mga yan? or nabili mo na?
hindi ako expert pero...base sa mga nabasa ko at sa mga sabi ng iba..na madami daw awards ang 9.1..hindi ko lang alam kung anong awards pero meron...
so, sa tingin ko..okay na ang 9.1, 9cs, dfs and sw150...yun lang naman eh para sakin lang...
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sir ok bang imatch HK630 + monitor audio S6(front) + Monitor audio LCR (center) + S6 ulit (sorround back)
S6 floorstanding
or Denon 3806
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sir ok bang imatch HK630 + monitor audio S6(front) + Monitor audio LCR (center) + S6 ulit (sorround back)
S6 floorstanding
or Denon 3806
I tried S6 with my HK 630 before, ok naman sya.
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sir any suggestion of much better speakers & sub for my denon 3806? iniisip ko ung acoustic energy aelite serries kaso ang mahal... ano po masasabi nila sir? how about B&W 602 S3? ask ko na rin kung ok ung infocus IN76? pls help
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so ok na ung set up na monitor audio silver S6 for my HT & audio?
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SIR MALAYA,
TRY NYO
Audition nyo dito sa amin Yamaha RXV 659
i hope you like it
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mukhang inclined na ako na mag-ugrade from onkyo 494 to yamaha rx-v659, kasi the yams won in the EISA's home theater receiver category. Sana babaan pa ng konti price para solve na!
However, as far as my current budget permits mukhang Marantz 4600 ang babagsakan.
Tama sabi ni av_phile1, dapat may pre-outs because of the upcoming dolby abd dts hd.
Ano kaya ideal partnering speakers sa marantz? Sabi nila warm-sounding daw ang marantz. Dapat ba warm-sounding din na speaker ang i-match ko? Hindi kaya maging dull / lifeless na sound kasi both of them are "warm" na"?
Mas mahirap pala mag-system matching kaysa mamili ng individual components?
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mga bossing,
ano ba ideal speakers para sa marantz sr4600, yamaha rx-v659 at denon avr-1906?
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kahit di naka address sakin ang question, i recommend mr. sonny tuazon, SGT HOME THEATER. i got my gears from him and delivered them personally in angeles pampnga.....
pa pm naman po ng business card o kaya contact ni mr sonny tuazon para kung sakali hindi na ako paikot ikot pang mangulit sa mga ht shops sa kanya nlang po ako lalapit.
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pa pm naman po ng business card o kaya contact ni mr sonny tuazon para kung sakali hindi na ako paikot ikot pang mangulit sa mga ht shops sa kanya nlang po ako lalapit.
You can contact Sonny Tuazon at THE HOME THEATRE 813-8443
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Hi...
I'm a so-so newbie on home setup....
I have been given a quote/recommendation with the following system components:
Yamaha RX-V357
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2
Wharfedale Diamond 9.CS
Wharfedale Diamond 9.DFS
or Diamond 9.SR
Wharfedale SW-150
Budget should be around 40k (para sa bahay naman, so financed by my mom) but anything more than that dagdag na ako).... I auditioned a lot of HTIBs, but syempre, sobrang di ako satisfied.... ???
What do you think guys?
BTW, I'm (slightly) onto car audio.... ::) bahay naman ngayon.... ;D
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What is price for this package?
What is the size of your HT room?
Set of speakers are excellent for a starter but if you have extra money try upgrading the reveiver.
regards,
Hi...
I'm a so-so newbie on home setup....
I have been given a quote/recommendation with the following system components:
Yamaha RX-V357
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2
Wharfedale Diamond 9.CS
Wharfedale Diamond 9.DFS
or Diamond 9.SR
Wharfedale SW-150
Budget should be around 40k (para sa bahay naman, so financed by my mom) but anything more than that dagdag na ako).... I auditioned a lot of HTIBs, but syempre, sobrang di ako satisfied.... ???
What do you think guys?
BTW, I'm (slightly) onto car audio.... ::) bahay naman ngayon.... ;D
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Hi...
I'm a so-so newbie on home setup....
I have been given a quote/recommendation with the following system components:
Yamaha RX-V357
Wharfedale Diamond 9.2
Wharfedale Diamond 9.CS
Wharfedale Diamond 9.DFS
or Diamond 9.SR
Wharfedale SW-150
Budget should be around 40k (para sa bahay naman, so financed by my mom) but anything more than that dagdag na ako).... I auditioned a lot of HTIBs, but syempre, sobrang di ako satisfied.... ???
What do you think guys?
BTW, I'm (slightly) onto car audio.... ::) bahay naman ngayon.... ;D
Hi,
Im no guru but w/ the parts you listed that should amount only around 33k. IMHO i would do the following, get the diamond 9.1 (cheaper and almost all feedbacks says its better). They yammy 357 is good if you can bump it up a bit get the 457, but the 357 will do. And with your budget of 40k .. add 10k more then you can get the Velodyne cht10r Sub.
I tested the sw150 and medyo bitin pero ok naman. The sales person even tried hooking up 2 sw150 at the same time, but the Velodyne cht10r and the Klipsch rsw10 was better. If your into car audio then i know you'll appreciate a very good sub. :D
Btw sir, almost same ang setup ko. :)
--kojie
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hmm...
thanks for the suggestions.... :D I'll still under researching stage pa lang naman eh...
How 'bout the HK AVR 135 po kaya instead of the Yammy (nice pet name) RXV357?
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hmm...
thanks for the suggestions.... :D I'll still under researching stage pa lang naman eh...
How 'bout the HK AVR 135 po kaya instead of the Yammy (nice pet name) RXV357?
if your more into watching movies get the yammy else get the avr135. :)
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Ayos yang mga advice nila..remember lang d subwoofer.. go for CHT-10/12r...ok na investment ang sub ;)
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What about the Wharfe SW-250 for the sub? Since I'll be using the system naman more on music, I prefer sana a sealed enclosure sub for tighter and more accurate bass.... Ok po kaya yun SW-250?
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hmm...
thanks for the suggestions.... :D I'll still under researching stage pa lang naman eh...
How 'bout the HK AVR 135 po kaya instead of the Yammy (nice pet name) RXV357?
yammy 357 versus HK AVR135? No contest bro, 135 ako mapa HT o music. Mapapaisip pa ako kung 457,557 versus 135. Syempre partial ako sa 135 kasi 135 user ako ;D
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Ayos yang mga advice nila..remember lang d subwoofer.. go for CHT-10/12r...ok na investment ang sub ;)
Agree ako dito. Hanggang ngayon nga wala pa rin ako sub kasi pinagiipunan ko cht12r. Di bale nang di muna makabili basta pag nakabili eh sulit na sulit.
Pagisipan mo rin istretch budget mo for the receiver para walang pagsisisi sa huli. Take your time lang chong. Pero kung ayos na sa ears mo 357, try mo rin mag audition ng higher models at ibang receivers para malaman mo difference.
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I havent tried the SW-250, but the SW150 is good for music but bitin for HT, IME.
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what's the ideal receiver for the wharfedale diamonds?
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what's the ideal receiver for the wharfedale diamonds?
Most popular combination would be the Yamaha & Wharfs.
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If I go by the wharfe's 6-ohm nominal impedance rating, a receiver with a recommended 6-ohm speaker should be a perfect match as far as maximum power transfer is concerned. In that area, Onkyo seems to fit the bill, being power rated at 6 ohms.
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av_phile1
aside from the onkyo's, will the marantz make the wharfs sing? Seriously considering the marantz because of the pre-outs,
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I see no reason why it can't.
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Update guys...
I've already got a Yammy RX-V457... and Wharf 9.DFS... and ordered a Wharf 9.2 na rin... unti-unti lang muna... ;D tsaka na yung center and sub (yung sub, undecided pa naman ako what to get eh)...
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Update guys...
I've already got a Yammy RX-V457... and Wharf 9.DFS... and ordered a Wharf 9.2 na rin... unti-unti lang muna... ;D tsaka na yung center and sub (yung sub, undecided pa naman ako what to get eh)...
get the subs last. unahim mo fronts then the center chanel. IMHO i would have picked up the 9.2 and the rx-v457 first so that you can use it already. just my .02 . pero nice choice of equipment, nice entry level and bang for the buck talga. :)
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After several weeks ng pagiisip at pamimili ng magiging setup...
Finally, naumpisahan ko na newbie Setup ko. Not that complete (and nde din maganda), but somehow enough to convince my wife na iba talaga yung ganong setup compared sa mga pre-built na HT system tulad ng Sony. Hehe, maski sya atat na makaipon na ako para makabili ng new sets of speaker kapalit ng current speakers ko. Para daw siyang kinakantahan ni Martin Nievera at Regine Velasquez dahil sa sobrang klaro ng tunog.
I decided kasi na pondohan muna yung receiver, then sa susunod na lang muna yung speakers.
And i got most of my inputs from this forum on which Receiver to use, considering yung preferences ko..
Anyway, eto po setup ko
Receiver : HK335 - got it kay RM 25% discount
Speakers : 6k lang lahat
Front : Wharfedale 8.1
Center : Kenwood CRS-156
Rear : Kenwood CRS-156
Sub : Bose Acoustimass SE 5
medyo bitin lang ako sa Sub talaga kasi passive sya.. Kaya pinagiisipan ko kung uunahin ko ba yung Sub or FloorStanding Speakers...
Nde pa ako naka-audition ng Velo.. And so far yung nagustuhan ko na na-audition ko na sub e yung NHT..
anyone here na naka-audition na ng NHT? Sa festival mall ko sya na-try.
What can you say about Mordaunt Short Carnival 6 speakers, mas ok ba sya kesa Wharfedale? Mas mura sya e?
May naka-try na din ba dito ng F Series ng Aurum Cantus? I heard ok din daw sya and mura lang. Any idea po mga bossing pati current price nya.
again, thanks..
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ledrahc,
Congrats bro, how much bili mo sa 335? Planning to replace my 235 - 335 eh...
TIA
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get the subs last. unahim mo fronts then the center chanel. IMHO i would have picked up the 9.2 and the rx-v457 first so that you can use it already. just my .02 . pero nice choice of equipment, nice entry level and bang for the buck talga. :)
i'm already using it na rin naman... with an old, crappy sounding old JVC speakers... ;D I'd probably get the Wharf 9.2 na rin naman on friday... ;)
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ledrahc,
Congrats bro, how much bili mo sa 335? Planning to replace my 235 - 335 eh...
TIA
Very limited number of HK335 on sale daw at Acoustical space Megamall for only 27+k. May HK340 na kasi.
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27K+ po. Though, limted offer na nga lang. Inuubos na lang ata stock. 1 week before kasi ako bumili, 3 na lang daw. Dont know kung ilan na lang meron ngayon? Ask mo si RM. Bait naman kausap yun e. PM mo ako kung need mo number nya. Thanks
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Very limited number of HK335 on sale daw at Acoustical space Megamall for only 27+k. May HK340 na kasi.
Naku, kailangan ko na ma-dispose agad yung 235 ko... How much kaya asking price ng 8months old 235?
27K+ po. Though, limted offer na nga lang. Inuubos na lang ata stock. 1 week before kasi ako bumili, 3 na lang daw. Dont know kung ilan na lang meron ngayon? Ask mo si RM. Bait naman kausap yun e. PM mo ako kung need mo number nya. Thanks
thanks bro, sa kanya ko rin nakuha yung 235 ko before, ill just contact him nalang...
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get the subs last. unahim mo fronts then the center chanel. IMHO i would have picked up the 9.2 and the rx-v457 first so that you can use it already. just my .02 . pero nice choice of equipment, nice entry level and bang for the buck talga. :)
i'm already using it na rin naman... with an old, crappy sounding old JVC speakers... ;D I'd probably get the Wharf 9.2 na rin naman on friday... ;)
I've got the Wharf Dia 9.2 na kanina.... :D dapat ma-break in na agad.... ;D
Next: Center speaker.... 8)
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For a 10sq m room, ok ba ang HK 335 and mag floorstander like Missions or Monitor Audio?
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In my experience (10sqm room in condo) , floorstanders were boomy at times specially if your room is bare cement walled & not acoustically treated.
I acoustically treated my 12sqm room to prevent this and later I upgraded to mid level series (more refined mids and tighter bass) of the speaker BUT with only 1 woofer. Now its just right for my room (but its treated acoustically).
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It is correct for you to ask first based on your room size. If you look in magazines about topics on what type of speakers you should get, the first consideration is always room size.
It is common for people to go for floorstanders (FS) cuz they look better or whatever reason. But many bookshelf speakers can perform just as well (some even out perform). FS can go deeper but sometimes at the expense of clarity. Specially if you are into HT only where the subs take care of the LF, bookshelves are good enuf, specially if the room is small.
Next to consider would be the receiver. Remember that bigger FS's need more power to sound their best, same is the case with more power needed in big rooms. If you are on a budget and go for entry level receivers + FS, the receivers will drive it, but you may not be hearing it at its best. (No offense po to anyone :), just sharing my realizations, according to my experience).
As an example, I have heard an Infinity Beta HCS speaker system (5 mini monitor speakers with 8"sub) driven by a powerful HK630, you would swear they were floorstanders if your eyes were closed. Iba talaga tunog pag busog ang speakers mo, kahit maliit .
(http://www.audiovision-shop.de/Preise/Produktinfo/Infinity/Audio/Beta/beta_hcs_beech.jpg)
When I was new to this hobby, I thought that FS = BkShelf + stands costwise. I forgot to factor in the more expensive AVR needed to drive the FS.
HK 330/335 (or Yamaha 1x00 series, Denon 28xx, etc.) is IMHO, the minimum recommendation for FS speakers. but thats just my 2 cents.
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Here are some of the most demanding scenes to test if you receiver can handle your speakers well:
Gangs of New York (DTS)- the scene from DTS Demo 8. Look for the cannon blasts, if they sound ear piercing... your AVR might be underpowered ( I experienced this myself)
The Haunting (DTS-ES)- Also from Demo 8. The part where the lady throws something to the window and the glass breaks...if its ear piercing....
Jurassic Park (DTS)- If the roar of the T-rex is "punchy" meaning you can feel the mids (NOT the sub) giving the force of the roar (malutong!).... you are powered well.
LF sounds draw a lot of power, thats why the HF are the first to suffer when there is a lack of power. A well powered setup would let you hear many details that were faint or inaudible in lower powered receivers. Thats because there is enough room (or power) to spare for all the necessary sounds to be heard.
Note: just sharing my experiences, coming from entry level gears, Not trying to spread SARS... :)
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LF sounds draw a lot of power, thats why the HF are the first to suffer when there is a lack of power. A well powered setup would let you hear many details that were faint or inaudible in lower powered receivers. Thats because there is enough room (or power) to spare for all the necessary sounds to be heard.
And that is why you need a sufficiently powered sub to work for you - essentially using true bi-amping principles. Bear in mind that frequencies below 150hz eat up 60% of the power reserves in any power amp, letting a good sub handle most of that pretty much leaves enough headroom for even a moderatey powered receiver to handle the rest of the frequencies. Unless of course you have all the speakers set to LARGE. ;D
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Sir AV,
A little enlightenment on this naman. I've read the manual of my amp but its not that clear to me. The difference between small and large settings. Does this anything to do with roomsize?
Unless of course you have all the speakers set to LARGE.
TIA
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Sir AV,
A little enlightenment on this naman. I've read the manual of my amp but its not that clear to me. The difference between small and large settings. Does this anything to do with roomsize?
TIA
Small setting means you have conected a small speaker (cannot reproduce bass very well, like a bookshelf), large setting are for bigger speakers which can reproduce bass very well, such as floorstanders.
Look at your manual and check what low frequency your small speaker setting is set and the large and set it appropriate to your existing speakers.
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Thank you! Mabuhay ka Sir Alex...!
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A tip I got from the guy I got my HT from is that even when you actually have a large speaker (i.e. floorstander or a large bookshelf)....you can configure it to small and leave the low frequency work to the subwoofer.....for some receivers kasi setting to small automatically results in low frequency signals are sent to the subwoofer.....
ALthough doing the above may result in a reduction in sound quality ;D
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A tip I got from the guy I got my HT from is that even when you actually have a large speaker (i.e. floorstander or a large bookshelf)....you can configure it to small and leave the low frequency work to the subwoofer.....for some receivers kasi setting to small automatically results in low frequency signals are sent to the subwoofer.....
ALthough doing the above may result in a reduction in sound quality ;D
On the contrary, leaving the receiver in SMALL will allow it to work better with low mids to high frequencies and not bother with current-hungry low frequencies which can eat up to 60% of the available current from the power supply. Hence, the main speakers belting out only the mids and highs can have clearer definition and airiness as all the power from the recever at any given volume setting are made available to a narrower bandwidth. In short, ths mids and highs can enjoy greater headroom so you get undistorted peaks. This is actually true bi-amping in principle and operation.
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Here are some of the most demanding scenes to test if you receiver can handle your speakers well:
Gangs of New York (DTS)- the scene from DTS Demo 8. Look for the cannon blasts, if they sound ear piercing... your AVR might be underpowered ( I experienced this myself)
The Haunting (DTS-ES)- Also from Demo 8. The part where the lady throws something to the window and the glass breaks...if its ear piercing....
Jurassic Park (DTS)- If the roar of the T-rex is "punchy" meaning you can feel the mids (NOT the sub) giving the force of the roar (malutong!).... you are powered well.
LF sounds draw a lot of power, thats why the HF are the first to suffer when there is a lack of power. A well powered setup would let you hear many details that were faint or inaudible in lower powered receivers. Thats because there is enough room (or power) to spare for all the necessary sounds to be heard.
Just to add, huskiness of voice (usually during narration) is also pretty different when your amps are well powered.
Watch Jarhead and Lord of War and listen to the huskiness of the voice as Jake Gylenhal and Nick Cage narrates during the movie.
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It is correct for you to ask first based on your room size. If you look in magazines about topics on what type of speakers you should get, the first consideration is always room size.
It is common for people to go for floorstanders (FS) cuz they look better or whatever reason. But many bookshelf speakers can perform just as well (some even out perform). FS can go deeper but sometimes at the expense of clarity. Specially if you are into HT only where the subs take care of the LF, bookshelves are good enuf, specially if the room is small.
Next to consider would be the receiver. Remember that bigger FS's need more power to sound their best, same is the case with more power needed in big rooms. If you are on a budget and go for entry level receivers + FS, the receivers will drive it, but you may not be hearing it at its best. (No offense po to anyone :), just sharing my realizations, according to my experience).
As an example, I have heard an Infinity Beta HCS speaker system (5 mini monitor speakers with 8"sub) driven by a powerful HK630, you would swear they were floorstanders if your eyes were closed. Iba talaga tunog pag busog ang speakers mo, kahit maliit .
(http://www.audiovision-shop.de/Preise/Produktinfo/Infinity/Audio/Beta/beta_hcs_beech.jpg)
When I was new to this hobby, I thought that FS = BkShelf + stands costwise. I forgot to factor in the more expensive AVR needed to drive the FS.
HK 330/335 (or Yamaha 1x00 series, Denon 28xx, etc.) is IMHO, the minimum recommendation for FS speakers. but thats just my 2 cents.
Sir,
I stand corrected. I measured my room again and it seems that it falls to 15sqm. It's actually almost square shaped. I want a floordstander setup sana. Will my room size qualify for it or just bookshelves talaga.
One more question..though I think this is OT, where do I buy sufficient carpeting to cover the the floor of my room? How much kaya magagastos ko sa carpeting alone. I think reflective kasi yung floor bg room ko.
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Sir,
I stand corrected. I measured my room again and it seems that it falls to 15sqm. It's actually almost square shaped. I want a floordstander setup sana. Will my room size qualify for it or just bookshelves talaga.
One more question..though I think this is OT, where do I buy sufficient carpeting to cover the the floor of my room? How much kaya magagastos ko sa carpeting alone. I think reflective kasi yung floor bg room ko.
Read around at the setting up thread, there is someone there selling carpets. Mine I got from Shell Canvass.
For a 15 sqm room, either BS or floorstanders are ok, but I would personally recommend signle woofer floorstanders. Just my 2 cents.
If your FS decision turns out to be boomy, I met a guy who does acoustic panels and bass traps for a reasonable price. He hangs out with Rene Rivo (hyperaudio a lot) one corner trap would cost about 4k.
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Hi, newbie here. Im planning to set-up a HT. The room is about 15-18 sq.m. The recommendations of 2 diff. shops that i approached gave me the ff proposals..
Option A: Front speakers Paradigm Phantom series
Center speaker Paradigm CC170
Rear speakers Dali R 1000
Subwoofer REL R205
Receiver Yamaha RXV 659 7.1
DVD player Yamaha DVD 657
Option B: Front speakers B&W DM 309
Center speaker B&W LCR-60
Rear speakers Wharfedale Diamond 9 DFS dipole
Subwoofer B&W ASW-600
Receiver Denon AVR-3805 7.1
DVD player Pioneer DV-393
Which is better, option A or B? which among the speakers are better
am also planning to get the Panasonic AE 900 projector.. however im confused whether to get a fixed screen or motorized screen. What are the pros and cons of one over the other?
Hope you guys can help.... Thanks a lot ;D
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Hi, newbie here. Im planning to set-up a HT. The room is about 15-18 sq.m. The recommendations of 2 diff. shops that i approached gave me the ff proposals..
Option A: Front speakers Paradigm Phantom series
Center speaker Paradigm CC170
Rear speakers Dali R 1000
Subwoofer REL R205
Receiver Yamaha RXV 659 7.1
DVD player Yamaha DVD 657
Option B: Front speakers B&W DM 309
Center speaker B&W LCR-60
Rear speakers Wharfedale Diamond 9 DFS dipole
Subwoofer B&W ASW-600
Receiver Denon AVR-3805 7.1
DVD player Pioneer DV-393
Which is better, option A or B? which among the speakers are better
The Paradigm Phantom on one net site (avrev.com) has a $399 SRP. I don't know what it's local price is but I think an equivalent tower-type wharfedale diamond 9.5 or 9.6 ($800 -$900 on the net) is a better value proposition based on local prices.
With regards the B&W 300 series, I am not impressed with them. I prefer to start with their 600 series. That's where you get your money's worth. I am sure the newer tower-type models have better bass. But in terms of mids and highs, being just a derivative of the multi-awarded DM300 bookshelf types, they'd be sounding the same in those ranges. Good-sounding but overpriced for their performance. Their cones use woven glass fiber which mimics kevlar weaves in their higher models. I personally prefer kevlar based cones. So if you want tower-type speakers, IMO nothing beats the price-performance of a Diamond 9.5 or 9.6 at local prices.
But I suggest you audition the speakers offered, compare between and with other brands, like the wharfedale diamond 9.5/9.6. Then you decide which is better for your ears.
REL brand is highly regarded specializing in upscale subwoofers. The R205 I think is just a notch higher than their entry level quake model but is considered a true sub-bass performer. I own a B&W ASW600 which provides excellent price performance. I would love to own the R205 but it's beyond my means.
With regards AVRs, the Denon 3805 is at a higher price range and performance level than the yamaha 659. I personally would prefer it over the 659. I have no special preferrence on the surrounds and players you mentioned.
And if those 2 options are engraved in marble, and I have to make a choice, based on specs and reputation alone, I'd choose option B. The Denon/B&W combo is hard to beat. The only sure winner in the first option is the REL sub. But that's just me. I really suggest you audition and compare. If the sound quality your hear isn't a night and day difference for you, either options will pass. And option B is actually attractive for its REL sub. But if you can have the better items from both options, that would be great, though I am sure the package would be more expensive. See if you can get a similar price deal with an all Diamond 9.5/Denon/REL combination.
am also planning to get the Panasonic AE 900 projector.. however im confused whether to get a fixed screen or motorized screen. What are the pros and cons of one over the other?
Isn' this just an issue of convinience? I'd prefer a motorized screen.
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thanks bro for the inputs and advise. I'll try to inquire about the Diamond series also.
w/ regards to the motorized screen, they said that in due time, the screen tends to have waves? is that true? Whats a good brand of motorized screen?
BTW, if you were to choose, what AVR and speaker systems would you buy given a budget of 150k (the same room size 3x5 sq.m )? :D
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thanks bro for the inputs and advise. I'll try to inquire about the Diamond series also.
w/ regards to the motorized screen, they said that in due time, the screen tends to have waves? is that true? Whats a good brand of motorized screen?
BTW, if you were to choose, what AVR and speaker systems would you buy given a budget of 150k (the same room size 3x5 sq.m )? :D
Da-lite brand screens comes originally with waves ( creases) :P
And if i may comment, your room size of 3x5sqm shouldnt be too hard to fill with sound ;) so your budget of 150t for avr-speaker set-up is a good start. ;D
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@ ricky , same question, if you were to choose, what AVR and speaker systems would you buy given a budget of 150k (the same room size 3x5 sq.m )? ;D ???
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BTW, if you were to choose, what AVR and speaker systems would you buy given a budget of 150k (the same room size 3x5 sq.m )? :D
Personally, as I am more into music than HT, I wouldn't spend so much for an AVR for HT. Unless you have high definition LCDs/PJs with high definition players outputing glorious 1080i at least and uncompressed LPCM in 5.1 or lossless DolbyTrueHD or DTS-HD or Master Audio via HDMI, I wouldn't spend so much. For plain upscaled DVDs, not worth it IMO.
But it's you money, so I'd recommend next-to or close-to- flagship receivers from Pioneer, Rotel, NAD, Onkyo, Denon and Yamaha. (not necessarily in the order of preference. ;D) If not mistaken, your budget of 150T can already buy a Rotel RSX-1056 or a Denon 4306 receiver. I don't know if the fabled Yamaha "mother of all receivers" RX-Z9 is already discounted to be within that range, it was priced in excess of 250T when it first came out.
For speakers, I suggest you do a lot more research. Don't be misled with costly price tags. Many costly speakers sold locally are overpriced. Once you check the net, you'd be surprised many are in the same price range as the lowly Wharfedale Diamond 9 speakers.
For 150T, I'd get a REL true sub-bass R205 ($1,200), a set of Diamond 9.5 ($800) and any of its center and surround speakers and a Denon 3806 AVR ($1,100). Local prices are misleading. But the wharfedale 9.5 local pricing at only 12.5T leaves so much more room for your budget to get the rest. ;D Having said that, don't forget to audition first. But that's just me.
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For speakers, I suggest you do a lot more research. Don't be misled with costly price tags. Many costly speakers sold locally are overpriced. Once you check the net, you'd be surprised many are in the same price range as the lowly Wharfedale Diamond 9 speakers.
For 150T, I'd get a REL true sub-bass R205 ($1,200), a set of Diamond 9.5 ($800) and any of its center and surround speakers and a Denon 3806 AVR ($1,100). Local prices are misleading. But the wharfedale 9.5 local pricing at only 12.5T leaves so much more room for your budget to get the rest. ;D Having said that, don't forget to audition first. But that's just me.
did i get you right, you'd prefer the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 speakers over the B&W 600s3? Any idea as to their respective costs?
BTW, would there be a significant difference between floorstanding speakers vs. bookshelf types, considering the room dimensions i gave?
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did i get you right, you'd prefer the Wharfedale diamond 9.5 speakers over the B&W 600s3? Any idea as to their respective costs?
I don't recall refering to B&W 603s in that post. But I would prefer the diamond 9 to the B&W 300 series in terms of value. All my preference to the Diamond just points to a better deal or price performance value. Whether they suit your aural taste or not, I leave that to you.
BTW, would there be a significant difference between floorstanding speakers vs. bookshelf types, considering the room dimensions i gave?
Floorstanders generally have deeper bass and higher power handling in the same model series. But across brands, it's not entirely uncommon to see bookshelf speakers outperforming a floorstander in terms of bass, power handling and detailing. Most studio monitors are bookshelf types. There are bookshelfs that sound just are gorgeous as floorstanders of another brand, or even better. Since a subwoofer is almost always a must have in HT, a stand-mounted bookshelf of good perfrmance and power handling will do. And in many cases, might even give better value. Hence, a bookshelh in the diamond series can be just as good for HT, at a lower cost.
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thanks AV... i'm really learning a lot from you. Would it be correct to assume that the B&W 600 would sound better than the Wharfedale 9? ???
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They both use kevlar woven speakers. The higher models on the 600 line use aluminum bass drivers knwn for their accuracy and true pistonic behaviour. But some pundits consider them boomy, especially the 604 with dual bass drivers plus a port. The tweets are another. B&W 600 uses a more detailed horn-loaded aluminum tweeter made famous in their nautilus and 800 line compared with the Diamond's fabric tweeters. That is why some people find the 600 brighter (though that would be a plus for people above 35 ;D) B&W 600 uses uneven rubber-like mats on their fronts to minimize diffraction effects for a more accurate sound propagation. In terms of brand recognition, B&W is more upscale than Wharfedale back in Engalnd. I'd prefer the B&W 600 series in terms of performance. Their customer after sales service is also legendary. But it all depends on you if the price gap between the two justifies the difference in sonic quality and after sales.
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if in case i would go for the 600 series, in your opinion which among the models in that series would be appropriate for the room 3 x 5 sq.m?
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Hi, my HT room is almost the same size as yours. Im using B&W 603s2 mated with Yamaha RXV800. I think you can use the 602s3 with a decent subwoofer. :)
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if in case i would go for the 600 series, in your opinion which among the models in that series would be appropriate for the room 3 x 5 sq.m?
For that room size, you can start with B&W602s3 for fronts, LCR 60 for center and back surrounds (if you are planning to use 6.1) and B&W bi-polar surround speakers (forgot the model).....
For sub, Rel is very good (a friend of mine has the Quake and it really really go low, not to loud but instead you can feel it:))...but if you want an all B&W speaker system, ASW 600 is a good starting point...it is a sealed front firing sub, if you still have the budget get the ASW 675, but IMO, i still prefer REL or Sunfire or even Velodyne....if you're in US, better get the SVS sub, that is if HT is your priority....
For AVR's... so many choices for the B&W's... Rotel will perfectly match the B&W's, so as Denon 3806 and Marantz 7500 and up....Harman Kardon 340 or 640 and Nad 763 or 773 is also very good , and these AVR's are quite good for both HT and Music listening... For pure HT application, Yamaha 2600 is tops.....
now for DVD player, you can get anything that you want....hehehehe I've noticed that almost every 4-6 months, there is a new model.....
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@ Reymer and 5Speed thanks guyz for your inputs and suggestions ;D would take that into consideration
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@ ricky , same question, if you were to choose, what AVR and speaker systems would you buy given a budget of 150k (the same room size 3x5 sq.m )? ;D ???
If I have 150t to spend on a decent HT set-up that will be good for both audio-video usage on a 3x5sq.m room, Ill probably consider the ff:
AVR
Harman avr640/645
harman avr340/345
SUBWOOFER
M&K 12"
VELODYNE 12"
REL 12"
SPEAKERS
fronts
JBL studio L L820/L830
WHARFE 9.2
B&W 602s3
center
JBL LC1/LC2
WHARFE 9cs?
B&W LCR60/600
rears
JBL L810/L820
WHARFE 9dfs/9.1
B&W 600s3/601s3/ds6s3
I come to realize that for HT you dont need to have a floorstander esp on a limited space. Bec unless you FS(floorstander) has a woofer bigger than 8" it will still be regarded as small speaker by your AVR :( and all LFEs will be directed to your sub.(which makes sense). With BS(bookshelf) dont worry that it will not be sufficient when it comes to audio,as most BS and FS sounds the same except for the low frequency WHICH a decent SUB(fast and tight) can take care of ;)Hope I was able to help you rather than confused you ;D
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For HT setup I will choose set speakers from same brand and series if possible. With your budget you can get a set of B&W600 series, Dali Concept or Ikon, etc. For subwoofer I suggest velodyne or MK while for AVR you can start with HK340. Where are you from?
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I have a similar sized room (3 x 4.2m) & I would not recommend that you get those 2 woofer floorstanders for a room of this size. They can get boomy at times specially if your room is not treated acoustically.
150k would get you a decent mid level HT (5 speakers, sub & good AVR). I would suggest that since you have the budget, go straight for the mid level gears and skip the entry levels.
I could modestly refer you to my setup in the HT gallery, w/ Mission M5's, HK 630 & Velo sub will cost you around that figure. The Missions are excellent in both HT & audio, great highs and clear mids that really suit my listening & aesthetic taste. I am very happy with them & modesty aside, me & a fellow pdvd member w/ M5's have on more than 1 occassion, w :o wed friends owning more expensive speakers (2x up) with these wonderful value for money speakers. In fact, when I was auditioning them, a customer beside me who was about to buy another brand, changed his mind to the M5's after hearing them. :D
I thought they were out of stock but I just learned that there are still a few left, you just have to look for them. Give them a listen.
You could also try Monitor Audio RS series, B&W 600 series. Also try the Mid level Wharfe Evolution series, they are pretty impressive and also have the same low price locally for a mid end model.
For Subs try M&K's as well.
Audition them all, we all have different tastes so what is good for one might not be the case for another. :)
2 cents :)
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For HT setup I will choose set speakers from same brand and series if possible. With your budget you can get a set of B&W600 series, Dali Concept or Ikon, etc. For subwoofer I suggest velodyne or MK while for AVR you can start with HK340. Where are you from?
thanks Levi. BTW, i'm from Cebu... medyo limited kasi ang choices dito ???
I have a similar sized room (3 x 4.2m) & I would not recommend that you get those 2 woofer floorstanders for a room of this size. They can get boomy at times specially if your room is not treated acoustically.
150k would get you a decent mid level HT (5 speakers, sub & good AVR). I would suggest that since you have the budget, go straight for the mid level gears and skip the entry levels.
I could modestly refer you to my setup in the HT gallery, w/ Mission M5's, HK 630 & Velo sub will cost you around that figure. The Missions are excellent in both HT & audio, great highs and clear mids that really suit my listening & aesthetic taste. I am very happy with them & modesty aside, me & a fellow pdvd member w/ M5's have on more than 1 occassion, w:owed friends owning more expensive speakers (2x up) with these wonderful value for money speakers. In fact, when I was auditioning them, a customer beside me who was about to buy another brand, changed his mind to the M5's after hearing them. :D
I thought they were out of stock but I just learned that there are still a few left, you just have to look for them. Give them a listen.
You could also try Monitor Audio RS series, B&W 600 series. Also try the Mid level Wharfe Evolution series, they are pretty impressive and also have the same low price locally for a mid end model.
For Subs try M&K's as well.
Audition them all, we all have different tastes so what is good for one might not be the case for another. :)
2 cents :)
I'll try to inquire which store carries the MOnitor Audio RS & Mission brand here (Cebu). I'll check your gallery.. Thanks a lot ;)
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baka pwede po makisali, newbie lang po ako. i had just completed my audio setup. gusto ko naman po sana magbuo ng hometheater ko. wat i have now is my monitor audio rs1 which i use partnered with an integrated amp. wat avr would you recommend for my speakers which would be used strickly for ht. ynx.
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Hi, newbie here. Im planning to set-up a HT. The room is about 15-18 sq.m. The recommendations of 2 diff. shops that i approached gave me the ff proposals..
Option A: Front speakers Paradigm Phantom series
Center speaker Paradigm CC170
Rear speakers Dali R 1000
Subwoofer REL R205
Receiver Yamaha RXV 659 7.1
DVD player Yamaha DVD 657
Option B: Front speakers B&W DM 309
Center speaker B&W LCR-60
Rear speakers Wharfedale Diamond 9 DFS dipole
Subwoofer B&W ASW-600
Receiver Denon AVR-3805 7.1
DVD player Pioneer DV-393
Which is better, option A or B? which among the speakers are better
am also planning to get the Panasonic AE 900 projector.. however im confused whether to get a fixed screen or motorized screen. What are the pros and cons of one over the other?
Hope you guys can help.... Thanks a lot ;D
bai urodoc, taga cebu pud ko :D........i guess Option A was suggested by Sounds 'N Images, while Option B must have been recommended by Soundroom, hehehe ;D ;D ;D, i agree w/ the advice of sir levi quoted below that you should choose a set of speakers from the same brand & series (ex: B&W 602s3 as fronts, LCR60s3 as center & 601s3 as rears) and then build your HT around these speakers ;)......in other words, you should first buy your set of speakers & then audition all the receivers that you can possibly match w/ your chosen set of speakers, and decide what combination suits your listening taste/preference (whatever receiver you choose, make sure that at least it has PRE-OUTS for future upgrade w/ an external power amp.) :)
muy dos sentimos 8)
For HT setup I will choose set speakers from same brand and series if possible. With your budget you can get a set of B&W600 series, Dali Concept or Ikon, etc. For subwoofer I suggest velodyne or MK while for AVR you can start with HK340. Where are you from?
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bai classicman, nice to know that you're also from cebu ;D ;D ;D. and thanks for the 2 cents . Yyes, you got it right as to who suggested the options? By the way what's your set-up? and do you know of someone here in cebu who can help me set-up?
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hi. please recommend a HT set-up (speakers/sub/receiver) with a budget of P150,000-P170,000.
room size is around 21 sqm.
thanks! :)
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Receiver: Yamaha 2600, Denon 380*, HK635
Sub: M&K or Velo
Speakers: B&W 603's, Mission M53's, MA RS6, JBL Studio series
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sir MAtZTER thanks for the suggestions. :)
im leaning towards this set-up
Receiver: Denon 3806
Front Speakers: B&W DM603 S3
Center Speaker: B&W LCR600 S3
Rear Speakers: B&W DM600 S3
Subwoofer: Velodyne CHT-12R
comments? suggestions? ;D
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good choice but imho maybe you should wait till next year to buy a receiver that expensive. receivers equiped w/ hdmi 1.3 is slated to come out early next year.
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sir MAtZTER thanks for the suggestions. :)
im leaning towards this set-up
Receiver: Denon 3806
Front Speakers: B&W DM603 S3
Center Speaker: B&W LCR600 S3
Rear Speakers: B&W DM600 S3
Subwoofer: Velodyne CHT-12R
comments? suggestions? ;D
wow...cant go wrong with those choices...but me point si ET414.....but then again...mga unang labas ng HDMI 1.3 equipped AVRs would surely be costly....dito pa lang, lampas kana sa budget mo......kulang kulang na sa 200k to.... ;D ;D btw 3806 is hdmi equipped na..though 1.1 pa lang if im not mistaken.....nagtanong ako nito noon sa shang...twas 90k plus :o :o
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bai classicman, nice to know that you're also from cebu ;D ;D ;D. and thanks for the 2 cents . Yyes, you got it right as to who suggested the options? By the way what's your set-up? and do you know of someone here in cebu who can help me set-up?
bai urodoc, am so sorry for this very late reply, i just got back last night from a week long out-of-town trip :-[........you may text/call me at (0917)320-0630, i am not a pro or an expert on this but i might be of help to you one way or the other, or i could refer you to someone who might be of help to your concerns ;)........my set-up is posted at the HT Gallery, here's the link:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=50115.0
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good choice but imho maybe you should wait till next year to buy a receiver that expensive. receivers equiped w/ hdmi 1.3 is slated to come out early next year.
True, but I am sure when they come out, it will cost more than all your arms and legs. ;D
I hear it's the HDMI switiching circuitry that really doubles most receiver prices. The version 1.1 most flagship receivers have is actually obsolete with the upcoming 1.3 for processing DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD/Master Audio without being decimated into LPCM. Preamp/processors in recievers are really the first to become obsolete these days.
But personally, I'd never consider receivers above 40T. If i had a budget of 90T+ i'd get a pre-owned set of pre/pro and multichanel power amps. Better sonics with more flexibility. But that's just me. ;D
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sir MAtZTER thanks for the suggestions. :)
im leaning towards this set-up
Receiver: Denon 3806
Front Speakers: B&W DM603 S3
Center Speaker: B&W LCR600 S3
Rear Speakers: B&W DM600 S3
Subwoofer: Velodyne CHT-12R
comments? suggestions? ;D
I would suggest you get a lower budget AVR and add a Rotel 1075 power amp if you plan to use the 603's. All the dealers I talked to are unanimous in agreeing that B&W sounds better with more power.
(http://www.rotel.com/products/images/rmb-1075.jpg)
I have been experimenting lately with a Rotel pre/pro I borrowed & my Rotel power amp. It is much more detailed indeed and a bit bright. And not lacking in power. I could say that this would suit the B&W's very well since it's brightness would bring out the details from a rather warm sounding B&W. Its the reason why I chose Missions over the B&W's. Missions were more detailed (for me) and suited my listening taste.
BUT a new rotel Pre/pro (1068) + power amp (1075) would cost you almost your entire budget :(. Even more if you go for their class D 7x100w RMB1077 power amp. Its already P100+k, power amp pa lang.
(http://www.rotel.com/products/images/RMB1077.jpg)
Almost 3 inches tall only, slim and cool looking huh? 8)
Where is the drool icon?!?
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If i had a budget of 90T+ i'd get a pre-owned set of pre/pro and multichanel power amps. Better sonics with more flexibility. But that's just me. ;D
Agree! One thing I have learned from the borrowed Pre/pro. Indeed the Pre/pro's + amps are better sounding in both music & HT. Better than using a receiver as processor. But price wise:
it will cost more than all your arms and legs. ;D
A Primare processor (no amps) cost the same as a Primare SPA21 5x100w receiver :D.
Pre/pro is now on my wish list. ;D
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True, but I am sure when they come out, it will cost more than all your arms and legs. ;D
i agree, but for me, 90k is already too much for a receiver that is already "obsolete" now;)
i'm sure the price of the next generation receiver's won't be that much more expensive than the current line up. for example: the 3805 cost $1200 when it came out as against 3806 $1300
But personally, I'd never consider receivers above 40T. If i had a budget of 90T+ i'd get a pre-owned set of pre/pro and multichanel power amps. Better sonics with more flexibility. But that's just me. ;D
very true! i've been looking for a used prepro myself kaso ang hirap maghanap ng medyo recent models. it's so hard to justify spending 70k on a pre/pro kasi:P
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I would suggest you get a lower budget AVR and add a Rotel 1075 power amp if you plan to use the 603's. All the dealers I talked to are unanimous in agreeing that B&W sounds better with more power.
(http://www.rotel.com/products/images/rmb-1075.jpg)
sir what if i get the Denon 3806 and add a Rotel 1075 power amp within the next few months after setting up my planned HT? btw, how much is the Rotel 1075 power amp?
regarding the HDMI 1.3 receivers, should i really wait for it? the dreaded S.A.R.S. is really bugging me. hehehe ;D
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regarding hdmi 1.3, i've read some more and it seems that v1.1 is enough for hi def viewing.
imho Matz' idea is much more sensible. the 1075 costs around 58k. if you plan on spending 90k for a pre/pro(w/c essentially the 3806 would be) then i would suggest you go the separates route.
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^^ sir what if i add the Rotel 1075 power amp to the equation?
Receiver: Denon 3806
Front Speakers: B&W DM603 S3
Center Speaker: B&W LCR600 S3
Rear Speakers: B&W DM600 S3
Subwoofer: Velodyne CHT-12R
+ Rotel 1075 power amp
= ??? (this set-up would definitely breach the 200k barrier, right?)
if i decide to get a lower model Denon receiver, what should it be? the 2807? or any other suggestions?
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^^ sir what if i add the Rotel 1075 power amp to the equation?
Receiver: Denon 3806
Front Speakers: B&W DM603 S3
Center Speaker: B&W LCR600 S3
Rear Speakers: B&W DM600 S3
Subwoofer: Velodyne CHT-12R
+ Rotel 1075 power amp
= ??? (this set-up would definitely breach the 200k barrier, right?)
if i decide to get a lower model Denon receiver, what should it be? the 2807? or any other suggestions?
good choices on the gears you intend to acquire, you must have a great taste & a deep pocket ;D ;D ;D......i suggest though that you add P5k to your budget for the rear speakers & make them the DM601s3, they will be better for a multi-channel audio application such as DVD-A & SACD ;)
i subscribe to the opinion of ET414 quoted below that you should wait for the release of preamp/processors that are equiped w/ HDMI 1.3 version........if you have the budget for a P90k receiver & a P58k power amp. combo, i strongly suggest that you go for a Rotel dedicated pre-pro & NOT on a fancy Receiver (magdadagdag ka lang ng konti), i mean it would be a real waste of money (& gear) buying an expensive receiver (P90k) & then just make it as your pre-pro :)
in the meantime, you may go ahead & buy your desired speakers, sub & the Rotel RMB-1075 (w/c i think should be imperative in your 'equation'), & the lowest-model (lowest priced) Denon Receiver or its equivalent that has PRE-OUTS (i would even suggest you just buy a pre-owned unit).......you may sell this receiver later after you shall have bought a dedicated Rotel pre-pro w/ HDMI 1.3 or make a 2nd set-up w/ it ;)
muy dos sentimos 8)
good choice but imho maybe you should wait till next year to buy a receiver that expensive. receivers equiped w/ hdmi 1.3 is slated to come out early next year.
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bai classicman, nice to know that you're also from cebu ;D ;D ;D. and thanks for the 2 cents . Yyes, you got it right as to who suggested the options? By the way what's your set-up? and do you know of someone here in cebu who can help me set-up?
Hi Uroduc,
I'm also from Cebu. Just text me at (0917) 3297492 if you think I can be of your help. Its nice to help people who are serious entrants in this hobby ;D ;D ;D. As I see in your entry gears, you seem to have a bright future in a/v (ano masabi mo classicman? ;) ;D ;D ;D
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what kind of HT set up can i get with 50K?
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the 3805 cost $1200 when it came out as against 3806 $1300
True, newer iterations often have a lower price tag than their predescessor. But that's because we're talking of the same technology getting refinements and value-engineering as the tech matures. But with the new generation receivers with HDMI 1.3, I expect new more complex decoding chips that can handle the more massive data streams of lossless DolbyTrueHD and DTS-HD/Master Audio as well as HDMI 1.3 switching. So the prices would be shooting up. Then again, nothing would make me happier than to be proven wrong here. ;D
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i subscribe to the opinion of ET414 quoted below that you should wait for the release of preamp/processors that are equiped w/ HDMI 1.3 version........if you have the budget for a P90k receiver & a P58k power amp. combo, i strongly suggest that you go for a Rotel dedicated pre-pro & NOT on a fancy Receiver (magdadagdag ka lang ng konti), i mean it would be a real waste of money (& gear) buying an expensive receiver (P90k) & then just make it as your pre-pro :)
I agree. But I have to say a 50T - 90T receiver can already match the price tag of many good pre/pros out there. Actually, at audioholics, a lot of members are saying good receivers are really pre/pros with amps thrown in as freebies. Well, almost freebies, the heavy power transformers still cost. ;D Receivers enjoy a much wider market acceptance than separate pre/pros, and mass manufacture of these really bring down their cost compared with pre/pros which really have a very small esoteric niche market
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what kind of HT set up can i get with 50K?
With 50T, you can have a very good HT set-up already. A set of wharfedale diamond 9 speakers with a subwoofer won't cost more than 25T or so. And the other half of your budget can buy a full-featured yamaha HT receiver.
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I have mentioned that the Pre/pro sounds better than a receiver being used as a processor. Its better by a bit, IMHO, but not by leaps and bounds. The difference is not huge, not night and day, considering the receiver used is a top mid level model. I do not know if the same case will be applicable if you use lower model receivers.
But in your case, If a Denon 3806 costs that much, indeed a pre pro would be better. Specially if you plan to only use 5 channels. another 2 channels would cost you another amplifier since 1075 only has 5 channels.
In my case, the power amps came in last. and my plan was to still have 7 channels (or 4 surrounds) working, with the amps powering the front 3 channels and the receiver powering the 4 surrounds. My, the difference from using a regular receiver alone was :o .
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thanks for all your inputs, i really appreciate it. :)
i got to audition the Denon 3806/B&W 602.5/B&W LCR60/Velo CHT-10R last week at The Home Theater. Mr. Sonny Tuazon recommended the B&W 602.5 FS because he thinks the B&W 603 might be ''overkill'' for my room. i really liked what i heard with the B&W/Denon combo, now it's time to dispose my current HT set-up. can't wait to upgrade HT gears! ;D
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Hi guys,
I currently have an rx-V650 which was given to me by my bro. Any suggestions on what kind of speakers that could match this? I'd seen the carnival series from MS. How do you find those? Thanks! :)
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Hi guys,
I currently have an rx-V650 which was given to me by my bro. Any suggestions on what kind of speakers that could match this? I'd seen the carnival series from MS. How do you find those? Thanks! :)
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I currently have an rx-V650 which was given to me by my bro. Any suggestions on what kind of speakers that could match this?
That receiver goes very well with Wharfedale Diamond 9 series. Highly recommended for high quality at scandalously low prices.
I'd seen the carnival series from MS. How do you find those? Thanks! :)
For your AVR, MS might be a little harsh on the high frequencies. Otherwise, MS is pretty good; pinaka-pogi pa sa aesthetics. But before you decide on MS, please read this thread first:
Mordaunt Short Service Center SUCKS (5th avenue/Avesco)
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42532.0)
This issue should override all other considerations.
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I heard my friend's Yamaha 530 plus MS setup. Medyo masakit sa tenga as I can remember.
Go for 9.1 BS's & the savings you get from that, pour it into a good sub. It will give you better benefits than pouring your budget to a FS.
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mga sir tanong ko lang at advice na rin. ano po ba ang ma suggest nyo na speaker for a yamaha rx-v557?im plannint to get the unit pero siguro mga 50k ang budget ko hindi kasali ang yamaha.except na rin sa subwoofer ang 50k ko. any suggestion po ba?
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hmmmm..... kung ako ay maraming pera at mag-a-upgrade ngayon...
eto ang mga choices ko....
Nad M15 Surround Sound Pre/Pro
Nad M25 7-Channel Power Amp.
Nad M55 Digital Disc Player
:) :) medyo me kamahalan lang talaga......pero ganda ganda tunog nyan nung marinig ko...naka-hook sa Dynes na BS..........hehehe
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i'm setting up a new HT system in a 12sqm room.
i'm looking at the following:
NAD T744 or T743
NAD T524 DVD/CD player
MS Avant 904i front
MS Avant 902i rear
MS Avant 905i Center
MS Avant 309i sub
also looking at Acoustimass 10 with the NADs or a Lifestyle 38. What can you guys suggest?
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i'm setting up a new HT system in a 12sqm room.
i'm looking at the following:
NAD T744 or T743
NAD T524 DVD/CD player
MS Avant 904i front
MS Avant 902i rear
MS Avant 905i Center
MS Avant 309i sub
also looking at Acoustimass 10 with the NADs or a Lifestyle 38. What can you guys suggest?
Hi ivo,
as for your room size i would suggest 902i BS even for the fronts, surrounds its up to you, but get a better sub let say 909 para may mas slam lalo na pag action movies and loud music ang hilig mo.
as for bose never have used it, and never planned also. may kulang na 2nog sa bose for me eh, vocals laking on lo end na di rin kaya habulin nung sub, naririnig ko ung sound pro d ko maramdaman, parang ganun ???, n para sakin kase medyo matinis kasi ung tunog, though it still your ears that wil decide, pro as for me MS nako. :)
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ric999, thanks for the sound advice! i knew someone would say that about bose speakers same as what i've read in the reviews and other audio forums. the MS set i think would be a fine choice for me but i have to dig 'em up somewhere here in riyadh... probably the jamo E640PDD would be a good alternative? Thanks!
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Not sure about the JAMO bro, but i do believe they are also good, nakalimutan ko lang ung model nung narinig ko. Basta ung design nya, CURVED ung frony nung box nya. And this one, ung narinig ko, maganda talaga tumunog.
Just be sure to look for a really good matching AVR... :)
Keep us posted ok.
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ric999, got the NAD T743 A/V and NAD T524 DVD-player. As for the speakers I went for Polk audio RTi6 fronts, CSi3 center, FXi3 surrounds, and PSW303. Ok sana yung RTi8's kaso masyado malaki pag floorstanders :)
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I already planned this set up but ask kolang po yung mga advice nyo to be sure para maguide naman ako.
Yamaha RX-V557
Wharfedale 9 series
Front 9.5 or 9.4
Center 9CM
Rear 9.2 or DFS
Sub Velo 10
Hingi po sana ako ng feedback on this. Actually yung reciever maibibigay sa akin ng sale kaya hindi gaano masakit sa bulsa. I heard na mas maganda daw ang Mission in this way pwede nyo po bang i suggest ang maaring katapat para d2. Sir sa totoo lang hindi ko pa po na audition ang mga speakers na ito pero I guess it would be better if you can advise me ahead para hindi na makulitan ang bibilhan ko. Sino po ba ang pwede malapitans a mga stores incase na subukan kung mga ito. Yung patas lang po sana magbigay.
Thanks po.
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I already planned this set up but ask kolang po yung mga advice nyo to be sure para maguide naman ako.
Yamaha RX-V557
Wharfedale 9 series
Front 9.5 or 9.4
Center 9CM
Rear 9.2 or DFS
Sub Velo 10
Hingi po sana ako ng feedback on this. Actually yung reciever maibibigay sa akin ng sale kaya hindi gaano masakit sa bulsa. I heard na mas maganda daw ang Mission in this way pwede nyo po bang i suggest ang maaring katapat para d2. Sir sa totoo lang hindi ko pa po na audition ang mga speakers na ito pero I guess it would be better if you can advise me ahead para hindi na makulitan ang bibilhan ko. Sino po ba ang pwede malapitans a mga stores incase na subukan kung mga ito. Yung patas lang po sana magbigay.
Thanks po.
Bro,
Most audiophiles or HT enthusiasts will recommend that you audition and listen first and not be hasty in your decisions when purchasing gears. Yes, you may read thru reviews or solicit for comments and suggestions, but all of these may just provide you ideas and not experience.
However, this may not be easy for those living in a location with very limited shops to visit. I honestly don’t know what to recommend for that right now.
If you’re really into HT, from my part, here are my suggestions. But don’t completely take my word for it, rather do more research, solicit more comments, and be patient. It is very frustrating on having to spend hard earned money for an Audio/HT setup that will disappoint you with its performance afterwards. I have been through it before and hopefully I can help as much as I can in preventing others make the same mistake.
1. Between Wharf 9.5 or 9.4, I would go for the 9.5. I heard both of these before and found the sound of 9.5 more dynamic. Also, I think the Wharf 9.5 will be the more efficient speakers, 9.4 = 6ohms, 86dB; 9.5 = 6ohms, 88dB. Plus, the 9.5 will have the much lower bass response at 30-24k @ -6dB, while the 9.4 only has 40-24k @ -6dB. If the price difference is small, go for the 9.5. Wharfs are very nice, warm sounding speakers. They are easy to listen to and very flexible, meaning they can be good for both audio and HT applications.
2. Between the Wharf 9.2 and DFS, that depends on the room setup. One factor would be the seating position. Are you seated close to the rear wall or do you have some space in between the rear wall and where you’re seated? But then, I will not pretend to be an expert here. I would prefer the 9.2, for the reason that I can use it also as a bookshelf speaker as an option to tryout separate integrated amps ;D.
3. Regarding the Wharf 9CM, I saw the specs and I guess there will be no problem with it. I’m not so sure if this is the one I heard before in an audition I did. But is sounded good enough, though.
4. About your subwoofer, Velos have very good reputation for HT subs. But then you have a big room. If you have the budget, go for a Velo 12. This is if you really prefer the Velo product. However, there are other very good subwoofer brands also, like Dali Ikon Sub, M&K, JBL PB10 or PB12 series, etc. On the other hand, with the Velo 10, I guess there will be not much problem there. Just make sure you position it carefully in your room for optimum performance, like in a corner or wherever you hear (for you) the best non-directional LF response. Meaning you should feel the LF and not be able to tell where it is coming from. Now, if you’re really into optimum performance of speaker setup including the sub, get an SPL meter and a test CD. But that’s just me ;).
5. Finally, regarding the Yamaha RX-V557, it may become "under-powered" in the long run. At 90 watts per channel (maybe less when all speakers are driven) for a 12sqm room, I’m not so sure. Yes, it’s a bargain, I understand. But aside from the low cost of it, generally I think we have to consider also if the savings are worth the performance that we get or expect from the product we purchase.
It is because for me, after experiencing all of these, I believe one's satisfaction can never be compromised. In this hobby, often we say we will acquire something within our current budget only and be settled with it. But often that does not become true, does it? After a while, one will think if this really is the best that can be acquired for the money. You're thoughts will run around the idea that, if only I had been patient and saved a few more or put in a little more cash I could have had this other product or the next higher model which had these more features, and so on and so forth. Then after only a few months you would already be contemplating on the next upgrade. Afterwards, when you look back in the end, you then realize that you have spent so much already in upgrading this and upgrading that in just a year or even a few months, that the total amount of money could have bought the best product already.
Whew, what was that?! Oh, ignore that. That was just me griping. ???
Once again, if the price difference is not so much I suggest you go for a Yamaha RX-V659. I heard this unit before and it is quite good; laidback and warm sounding connected to Wharf speakers. Plus, the RX-V659 has YPAO, 192khz/24bit Burr-Brown DACs, pre-out terminals if decide to connect it to a separate power amp in the future, THX processing, Pure-Direct switch, accurate touch volume control, 64bit DSP LSI processing, digital video processing, a little bit more power, a much newer model, and so much more that the RX-V557 is not or does not have yet.
Here is a link about the RX-V659 for additional information: http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v659/overview-and-build-quality (http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/yamaha-rx-v659/overview-and-build-quality)
The price, last time I inquired was around 24k to 28k at Listening Room, SM Megamall (or is it Listening in Style?). Sorry, I often get confused between the two shops at Megamall and EDSA Shangrila.
6. If you are open for it, you try also other HT receiver brands like, Onkyo, Denon, HarmanKardon, Pioneer, etc. Just give them a listen if possible for you.
That’s it. Sorry I have to stop here. I need to go for breakfast, getting hungry already. Other kind hearted colleagues here maybe able to provide you more detailed information and other good suggestions (and without the griping, I suppose).
As for me, just wanna help in my small little way.
Cheers
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very well said bogsle ;)
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Sir Bogsle, matsamalz sa tapat at pulidong pag explain. talagang malaking tulong ito kc bago lang ako sa hobby na ito at excited ako sa naging choice ko ngayon. actually i reregalo ko ito sa father ko ang package kc ang yamaha rx-v557 ay may kasama ng nsp-110 speakers.naisip kung palitan siya kc baka mabitin kaya nagpadala ako dito ng guide.
sa nakita ko under power siya so bka yung nabanggit mo na isang model ay pag iipunan ko at yun nlang ang magiging set up ko sa personal ko. yung rx-v557 ay ibibigay ko nlang kay erpat as regalo. mayroon pa po bang pwede nyong ma advice para sa rxv-557 na babagay na wharfedale set up? again, maraming maraming salamat sir bogsle. buti nlang hindi ko agad nabili ang speakers kung hindi mapupuno na naman ako ng pagsisisi.ahehe
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I agree, get the best AVR your money can buy.
I do not mean to diss entry levels here (I use one for my 2ndary bedroom setup). But I have read an article on how manufacturers design their lower level AVR's. They are up to their teeth in bringing the cost down by getting more economical parts, just to get the AVR to reach its very low price. Logically, sacrifices are made in performance. So for me (just me), go for the mid levels at least to get the most out of your HT experience. More power, better quality parts & sonics and gives more midrange slam that I find absent in entry levels *.
And IMhO, when you want FS, you gotta power em well to make them perform their best, so mid levels at least are my minimum recommendation. But thats just me, but this is also based from my experience w/ both FS & BS.
If too expensive, try looking for NOS (new old stock) since most of the time, you wont usually need the new features that bad anyway. AFAIK, there are lots of NOS mid level Yamaha available (1000 series & up) priced around the 659's vicinity. Try asking the Yamaha dealers.
*upgrade fever is less when you go for the higher models instead of the lower ones. ;) Not much models left to upgrade to... ;D
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sir matz, ano bang ma i recommend mo na speaer sa rx-v557? i am thinking also on a mission? or do you have something in mind. i noticed kc na marami d2 ang expert na sa pandinig kaya a is invited naman na mag donate ng inyong experiences na maaring maging paso sa reciever ko. mahirap talaga pag bagohan ka pa lang litong lito ka lalo na sa set up.
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If it were me, I would recommend satellite speakers or small bookshelf speakers for the entry levels. Just make sure you have a good sub, yan yung magdadala ng HT.
Why only satellites or BS?
Look at HT mags, they have a column w/ HT recommendations, what do they recommend for the entry/budget levels? Satellite systems or BS systems.
Look at the Yamaha Catalogs, what do they match w/ the entry levels? Satellite systems or BS systems.
I believe these guys (yamaha engineers & HT columnists) know better than us as to w/c suit entry level receivers best.
IMO, the difference between entry level AVR's & mid+ AVR's is the midrange punch to the speakers brought about by more power, better parts (specially the amp section), better processing. This midrange punch is more evident w/ floorstanders, having larger air space to move. But without the performance level of mid level AVR's, they do not sound that good in my experience. And its not about how loud it goes (for those wanting to argue sensitivity spec), its the quality of sound.
So for entry level AVR's, IMO, sat or BS + good sub (dito mo na lang buhos yung natipidmo sa receiver) is enough. You are going to set the speakers to small din naman sa setup anyway.
Once I thought floorstanders were the only way to go in this hobby. I had several FS setups already (see HT gallery), now I have reverted to bookshelf (plus a very good sub) for HT. No regrets naman. I practice what I preach, hehe.
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matzter do you have a specific brand and how much ang best sounding but budget satellites or bookshelf speakers
because i read you said yamaha speakers are very harsh sounding
tnx
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matzter do you have a specific brand and how much ang best sounding but budget satellites or bookshelf speakers
because i read you said yamaha speakers are very harsh sounding
tnx
Receiver companies like Yamaha, Denon or Onkyo manufacture speakers so that they could sell a whole set along w/ their receivers (for buyer convenience). But speakers are not their specialty and its understandable if their speakers cant match hifi or HT specialty manufacturers w/ years of R&D behind them.
These are the ones I have auditioned or used:
Satellites:
JBL SCS 200 or 260 (awesome sub, I have the scs200 for my 2ndary setup)
Infinity Beta HCS
Mission M30 cinema
Q Acoustics 1010 system
Definitive Technology PRO Cinema
Atlantic Technology (not budget anymore, but excellent in HT)
Castle Satellite (not budget anymore, but excellent in music)
BS: (subs are separate)
Wharfe 9.1's (best value)
Q Acoustics 1020
Epos (their entry level)
Monitor B2 (I set one up for my sister)
JBL or Infinity (more on HT)
But dont take my word for it, AUDITION IT. :)
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hello po sa mga gurus...
I am sick with SARS because of reading pinoydvd threads and I'm starting to build up my very own HT hehehe.. I already bought a Toshiba 32WL66E and a Pioneer 696AVS, now I am hunting for speakers and ampli.. very newbie po! I was browsing on the threads and I am just looking for satellite speakers kaso lang the old posts are, well kinda old na hehehe some of the links are not working.. maliit lang yung room maybe 5 x 5 meters? Also an ampli to match the speakers.. may tanong pala ko dito.. why do I need an ampli if I have an analog 5.1 output on my DVD player? Hindi ba pwede isaksak na lang don hehehe... saka sa ampli pala I am planning to buy an HD-A2, so an HDMI connection would be a-ok (ok rin naman kung wala!). Budget for amp and speakers around 25k.. or maybe more depending sa SARS... thanks in advance! ;D
Addendum: di ko nakita yung nasa taas na post too excited hehehe...! Sir Matz! saan mabibili yang satellite speakers you mentioned and how much? TIA!
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They are being sold in many different stores so you have to look around A/V stores.
Among the above, the JBL SCS, being the cheapest is already at 20+k. HDMI receivers are in the 40-50k vicinity, so you might need to add to your 25k budget. Or wait just a bit more because cheaper , lower model (or price class) HDMI capable receivers are coming soon.
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They are being sold in many different stores so you have to look around A/V stores.
Among the above, the JBL SCS, being the cheapest is already at 20+k. HDMI receivers are in the 40-50k vicinity, so you might need to add to your 25k budget. Or wait just a bit more because cheaper , lower model (or price class) HDMI capable receivers are coming soon.
for satellite speakers such as these, do I really need receivers for this or can I directly connect it to my dvd player? (Pioneer 696AVS) If yes, any receivers in mind without HDMI?
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for satellite speakers such as these, do I really need receivers for this or can I directly connect it to my dvd player? (Pioneer 696AVS) If yes, any receivers in mind without HDMI?
Of course, receivers give the wattages to power the speakers, DVD players only give the signal. unless your speaker system is powered (i.e. nextbase, xenon). But separates will still sound better than these powered speaker systems.
Any entry level receiver will do w/ the satellites. I would recommend Denon, Onkyo or HK w/ the JBL sats.
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Of course, receivers give the wattages to power the speakers, DVD players only give the signal. unless your speaker system is powered (i.e. nextbase, xenon). But separates will still sound better than these powered speaker systems.
Any entry level receiver will do w/ the satellites. I would recommend Denon, Onkyo or HK w/ the JBL sats.
Sige I'll be checking on JBL SCS 200/260 and an HK 240 (or HK 245 I saw one in Amazon with HDMI sana meron dito :-D)
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Sige I'll be checking on JBL SCS 200/260 and an HK 240 (or HK 245 I saw one in Amazon with HDMI sana meron dito :-D)
I inquired for quite a bit and researched more on the speakers. I narrowed down my choices to Wharfedale 9 HCP and JBL 200/260, and for the receivers HK 245 or 340. Wharfedale has 6 ohms and JBL has 8 ohms.. malaki ba yung difference nun? and for the subs of both Wharf has 150w and JBL has 100w. Should I go for Wharfs since I will use it primarily on HT? Sa receiver naman, maliit lang kasi yung difference between 245 and 340 price.. should I go for 245 with HDMI or 340 with more power? or anybody can recommend an equivalent receiver? My overall budget would be around 50k (ayan tumaas na si Sir Matz kasi eh sabi dagdagan hehehe :D). Gagamitin ko to with my Pioneer 696 and hopefully pag my budget na ulit Tosh A2 ;D Danke, danke!
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and for the subs of both Wharf has 150w and JBL has 100w.
this is why I liked the JBL, even if the spec is just 100w, it can outbang the Wharfe SW150, and I like it loud since I use it for HT only.
But for speed & finesse (specially in audio), I find the Wharfe better (ganda!). But on very loud HT scenes, nagvivibrate yung kaha sa unit that I installed for my friend's HT. I had to turn the volume down.
Should I go for Wharfs since I will use it primarily on HT?
If primarily for HT, the JBL is good enough, I believe the wharfes will prolly outperform it in music.
should I go for 245 with HDMI or 340 with more power?
245 is enough IMhO for satellites & little bookshelves. But if you have budget left, I would recommend the 340, as I always recommend to get the best receiver your money could buy. The 300 series is also said to be warmer sounding than the 200 series. 5w across all 7 channels in an all channels driven rating is not a "small" difference. Also IMO, in case you go into audio next time or want bigger speakers, you wont need to upgrade if you have a 340.
Is the HDMI also capable in audio? Cuz not all are, most are video capable only. If that is the case, I find the HDMI useless, as I would prefer to plug the HDMI direct to the display na lang instead of using 2 HDMI cables (one to AVR, one to display...useless if no audio)
Bottomline: buy which one is better sounding / performing to you.
If I had a budget like yours & dont have any limitations on design & space (I needed mine to be compact kasi), I would prefer the Wharfes + 340.
Equivalent receivers, yamaha 659 or the upcoming HDMI capable 661. Denon 1900 & Onkyo 600 series.
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Bottomline: buy which one is better sounding / performing to you.
If I had a budget like yours & dont have any limitations on design & space (I needed mine to be compact kasi), I would prefer the Wharfes + 340.
Equivalent receivers, yamaha 659 or the upcoming HDMI capable 661. Denon 1900 & Onkyo 600 series.
Bottomline it is.
Taking the plunge, I have just auditioned Wharfedale with Denon and I went for it :) Medyo sumobra sa budget but I went for:
Wharfedale 9.5, cs and 9SR
Denon 1907
I am still undecided with Velodyne VX10 for the sub... my original plan was to go all Wharfs but Sonny of SGT is really giving me a good price of the set, hehehe... Any thoughts on this?
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sa wakas nagkaroon na sin ako ng yamaha na unit.i got the rx-v557 on sale with free ns-p116 speakers for just Php 21936 in conversion na yan.nagsale kc sa aDawliah for the lat day and naisip ko na kunin na.im planning ow to follow the advice of the gurus of this forum to look for a better speakers like whaf to pair it kc yung free itatabi ko nalng for my separate set up.mga sir mukhang ibaba ko yung budget ko sa sub ano ba ang maganda ganda na medyo mura lang lower than velo brands.i will be pairing this one with wharf.
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congrats on your rx v-557 ;D
im no PDVD guru but if i could suggest a sub lower than velo i'd go for a DQ12 there are a couple being sold at B&S section. one being sold by sir simple.
...or you can simply just save for a velo vx-10 (sa SGT mas mura ata) ;D but that's just me.
congrats! enjoy your new gears!
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congrats on your rx v-557 ;D
im no PDVD guru but if i could suggest a sub lower than velo i'd go for a DQ12 there are a couple being sold at B&S section. one being sold by sir simple.
...or a '12 konzert sub i saw in mega mall at "the listening room".
...or you can simply just save for a velo vx-10 (sa SGT mas mura ata) ;D but that's just me sabi nga nila just my 2 cents (borrowed phrase)!
congrats and hope you enjoy your new gears!
yung DQ12 na luma dynaquest na rabadge now as konzert
same na same yung design except for the logo :)
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now i finalized my set up with the rx-v557 na ireregalo ko to be paired with wharfedale 9 series as follows
Front: 9.4 as adviced ng karamihan dito as compared to 9.5 Price: Php 9,700
Center: 9CM Price: Php ---
Rear: 9.2 Price: Php 7,000
Sub: velo 10 Price: Php ---
pwede po ba makahingi ng feedback. Entry level lang po kc regalo ko sa father ko. I admit I havent audition these speakers pero as far as I have read from here mukhang tama lang yung match nya na hindi mag suffer ang rx ko. Also, pwede po bang makahingi ng current price sa mga units in ---.
I believe if makapag bakasyon na ako dyan sa pinas I will have time to audition these units at mapakinggan ko talaga ang performance nila. For now Im just trying to hear from the people around here base in thier experiences. Maraming salamat po in advance. I hope hindi ako ma SARS. ahehe
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It is because for me, after experiencing all of these, I believe one's satisfaction can never be compromised. In this hobby, often we say we will acquire something within our current budget only and be settled with it. But often that does not become true, does it? After a while, one will think if this really is the best that can be acquired for the money. You're thoughts will run around the idea that, if only I had been patient and saved a few more or put in a little more cash I could have had this other product or the next higher model which had these more features, and so on and so forth. Then after only a few months you would already be contemplating on the next upgrade. Afterwards, when you look back in the end, you then realize that you have spent so much already in upgrading this and upgrading that in just a year or even a few months, that the total amount of money could have bought the best product already.
Whew, what was that?! Oh, ignore that. That was just me griping. ???
i just love this part! sometimes the itch does'nt take a year...sometimes complating takes just takes a couple of weeks specially if you often browse through PDVD.
this is the same best advise i could give aside from trusting your ears and not browsing much on the HT gallery (para di nakaka ingit). ;D
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mga master,
i just bought an evo10, evo center and evo8 from cybermms recently.
what AVR can you recommend (with pre-outs) that can power them evo's adequately? i prefer not to overkill the AVR as of now so i will have funds to buy an FS and the power amp in the future. regarding the sub, i am eyeing on the velo. the setup will be in a 5x5 meter untreated room mostly used for HT.
is it necessary to upgrade to FS if having a good sub?
dahan-dahan lang me sa pagbuo at sana di kaagad ma sars ;D,
thanks,
weng
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A matching mid level HK 300 series would be good for your HT/audio preference.
i prefer not to overkill the AVR as of now
I believe in (& recommend) getting the best receiver your money can buy. I do not believe in such a thing as "overkill" :D
is it necessary to upgrade to FS if having a good sub?
For a small room: NO need (but if you really want...)
For a 25sqm room: pwede din
For very big rooms: Dapat
Also, Top model receivers can fill your room w/ sound, BS or FS. I once heard a HK630 (top model) power mini bookshelf speakers & fill up the whole JBL showroom in Mega.
Just my 2 cents :)
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thanks for the recommendation matz.
what i meant with overkill is that i don't want to spend extra money now for an excess headroom when in the future the avr's amp section will not be used when i add a power amp.
what avr models to check that has a pre-outs:
hk -300 series and up
yamaha - ??
onkyo - ??
denon - ??
;)
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Pre-outs are often found in mid to high end receivers. But I heard even the Marantz entry level has one. Check that brand as well.
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Pre-outs are often found in mid to high end receivers. But I heard even the Marantz entry level has one. Check that brand as well.
thanks av_phile1 ;)
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thanks for the recommendation matz.
what i meant with overkill is that i don't want to spend extra money now for an excess headroom when in the future the avr's amp section will not be used when i add a power amp.
what avr models to check that has a pre-outs:
hk -300 series and up
yamaha - ??
onkyo - ??
denon - ??
;)
Yamaha 1000 series
Onkyo 700 series
Denon 2000 series
More than just the headroom, you have to consider the processing power of these models. Getting the lowest model w/ pre outs is not the same as getting a higher model w/ a higher processor, future power amp considered.
Anyway, even if you get the higher $1k model, there will still be improvements (from the onboard amp) if you use good power amps. As sir AV said, specialty (like power amps) has its benefits.
Thats why I always recommend to get the best receiver your money can buy, the lowest mid levels (mentioned above) being the most practical for me, as they usually use the same processors as the top range models. :)
just my 2 cents
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mga sir, ano po bang av reciever ang mainam sa infinity primus 250?
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I heard infinity match with an HK.
OK sya for HT.
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mga sir, ano po bang av reciever ang mainam sa infinity primus 250?
Yes, 99.9% HK.
I have Yamy 659 before but my Primus sounded thin esp. on multi-channel, pure direct is another thing tho'. I noticed a big improvement when I switched to HK340.
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mga sir gaano po ba ka totoo na yung infinity primus models madaling bumigay ang tweeter? yung school mate ko kc in college now working in a very famous home theater shop in cebu told me this one. he told me na mas maganda pa ang quality ng jbl speaker for hk.feedback naman po.
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In my case, the power amps came in last. and my plan was to still have 7 channels (or 4 surrounds) working, with the amps powering the front 3 channels and the receiver powering the 4 surrounds. My, the difference from using a regular receiver alone was :o .
sir MAtz, would you still recommend this even if one would just use BS speakers for the fronts?
ummm let's say B&W's 685 BS? :)
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sir MAtz, would you still recommend this even if one would just use BS speakers for the fronts?
ummm let's say B&W's 685 BS? :)
Lets answer through an experiment I did. I am using THX BS speakers now & before I connected it to my Yamaha 7x130w THX receiver. Ok naman, cant complain.
One day I tried hooking up the BS speakers to my 5x100w Rotel power amp. There was still a considerable improvement (though not huge as the difference w/ FS IMhO), even though the rotel had a lower power rating. Probably its bec. good quality power amps, with their own robust power supplies, can still tend to outperform their receiver counterparts w/c share everything (preamp, amp, etc,) w/ one power supply (squeezed into one small casing). Maybe cuz Rotel uses torroidal transformers (duno the technical side of this) blah blah blah x10 ... LOL
So in short it kinda depends on your pursuit for perfection or level of satisfaction... and budget of course. In my level of addiction to the hobby ;D, only a power amp will do. But if you are not very particular in this hobby, then you dont need power amps.
I heard that B&W's shine with Rotels. Its a match made in heaven they say. I read somewhere that the B&W's dip to below 4ohms (puts a big strain on the power supply) w/c is no problem for power amps. But I am not sure if its still the same case w/ the new 6 series speakers.
I would recommend that you try using a good receiver first, then when budget allows, get a power amp after some time. Stereo will do, let the receiver handle the other channels.This way you can appreciate the difference instead of buying it all at once.
Better yet... BORROW one from a fellow member. ;D
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sir MAtz, as always your inputs are greatly appreciated. :)
in the B&W website, the smaller HTM-62 center channel speaker is recommended for the 685 bookshelf speakers.
is it ok to use a bigger HTM-61 center channel speaker for the 685's?
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I don't know if anyone has already asked this and what answers were given, but I'd like to know your ideas about a home theater set-up that's "spouse friendly" meaning, in my case, it shouldn't be hard on the budget and the speakers should be unobtrusive, not count as part of the furniture. We're having a house built and the home theater will be placed in the family room. Right now, I have a dedicated home theater room in our townhouse so I have satellite fronts and surrounds. The family room will be twice as big as the room I have now.
Should I go HTIB? wireless speakers? Stick with satellites or use bookshelf speakers (I have two that I use for music). I really don't want to mount speakers on the wall but I also don't want to have speaker stands.
Thanks in advance.
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Exact room size? Budget? (be generous! :D)
Remember that bigger rooms need more powerful ( ergo more expensive receivers or power amps) to power properly. Thus it might not be budget friendly. If you use your HT/family room a lot for movies, games & music, be generous in your expenditure for your new HT, as it will bring you many years of enjoyment. there are many "Pogi" floorstanders out there that can be approved by the missus (for your 2x bigger family room).
Read magazines like Electronic Home (been buying em lately), there are a ton of ideas there for wife approved HT's. But you have to have a deep pocket though.
Or go through the HT gallery of this site for cheaper DIY ideas. ;D
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Thanks, Matzter! Could I impose on you by asking for specific recommendations? The room is rectangular, 28 x 12 feet.
I think using my AE bookshelf speakers (on stands) as front speakers will be fine but I might have a problem having the same type of speakers as surrounds as I really do not want to mount them on the walls. If I put them on stands, my wife will definitely think of them as unsightly.
Right now, I'm leaning towards getting a Yamaha sound projector so that I wouldn't have to bother with surrounds. It would cost me P40,000 for the YSP 800 and P75,000 for the YSP 1100. I have been warned, though, that although these sound projectors can generate surround sound, they cannot approximate the results given by a real 5.1 or 7.1 system.
Now given the above, what speakers would you recommend? Floorstanding or bookshelf? What AVR? I am willing to buy new equipment but I do not want to break the P70k limit.
Thanks again.
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I dont see why you should worry much since you are still in the process of constructing your house, there are so many WAF (Wife approval factor) design options available for you in HT & int design mags (and the pdvd HT gallery). All you need is to adopt them to your new home.
As early as now, plan your cable management already while its under construction! You will appreciate this advice very much in the end!
Take note that the high pitched YSP needs a sub badly. So your budget still didnt include that.
Your room is around 30+ sqm already :o. You will really benefit from using separates w/ floorstanders. HTiB's & sats are out of the question.
Ideally, you will need a powerful receiver ($800-$1200 class) or power amps (plus 2-3 subs) for a room of that size. But thats ...ideally. This is dependent on your level of enthusiasm for HT.
If you arent choosy to your HT experience, w/ 70k just get an entry level 7.1 FS setup, a good 12" sub and the cheapest AVR w/ preouts ... for the meantime. Pre outs are for future connection to power amps, in case your taste evolves & you find the power of the receiver "lacking", specially in that big room of yours.
If you are a choosy one, ya really needs to brings up your badyet... :D and you will really do a lot of research here. Remember that a well executed HT will bring you years of enjoyment.
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Your room is around 30+ sqm already :o. You will really benefit from using separates w/ floorstanders. HTiB's & sats are out of the question.
Ideally, you will need a powerful receiver ($800-$1200 class) or power amps (plus 2-3 subs) for a room of that size. But thats ...ideally.
Another cheaper alternative, since your house is under construction, is to DIVIDE that big room in 2 smaller rooms divided by a... uhh.. divider ;D.
The smaller your room is, the easier it is to power, ergo less expenses on the amplification and the size of the speakers. A smaller 16sqm room will fit just nicely on a 70k budget w/ a 10 in sub, BS speakers & a 28k receiver.
You might protest dividing the room, but there are many ways around this. One is to use big sliding double doors to divide the 2 spaces. The doors are closed when you are watching movies, and open when the HT is not in use. This way the 2 rooms do not look like they are officially separated. ;)
Got that idea from Home Theater Interiors by Russ Herschelman. buy some HT mags!!!
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Matzter, thank you very much for the very useful advice. I really appreciate it.
Cable conduits are already in place. I have slid across the spectrum and am leaning more towards having separates and a more powerful receiver. Hopefully I can get a good new set up with my budget. I've managed to convince the wifey on condition that I sell our old 5.1 system.
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Hi newbie here. I would like to upgrade my receiver (HK 235), I have the ikon 6 for the fronts and the ikon vokal 2 for the center. Would like to ask your opinions/suggestions on what receiver would be best with my current speakers. I'm more into HT now and my budget would be around 50 - 60k. I know in the end, it would depend on my listening taste but I would appreciate your inputs as I've seen from the past threads that your valuable inputs have helped lots of people in choosing the right system.
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Hi newbie here. I would like to upgrade my receiver (HK 235), I have the ikon 6 for the fronts and the ikon vokal 2 for the center. Would like to ask your opinions/suggestions on what receiver would be best with my current speakers. I'm more into HT now and my budget would be around 50 - 60k. I know in the end, it would depend on my listening taste but I would appreciate your inputs as I've seen from the past threads that your valuable inputs have helped lots of people in choosing the right system.
With that amount you can get a very decent model with 7.1 or 9.1 preouts and THX ultra2 certified and more features as future proof... I won't mention any brand or model as I leave this to your own personal taste in sound and aesthetics ... ;D
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Hi newbie here. I would like to upgrade my receiver (HK 235), I have the ikon 6 for the fronts and the ikon vokal 2 for the center. Would like to ask your opinions/suggestions on what receiver would be best with my current speakers. I'm more into HT now and my budget would be around 50 - 60k. I know in the end, it would depend on my listening taste but I would appreciate your inputs as I've seen from the past threads that your valuable inputs have helped lots of people in choosing the right system.
For speakers as good as the Ikon6, it is crucial that you match it w/ the same class receivers, so you can hear its full potential.
I would recommend:
HK 600 series
Onkyo 805
Denon 2807 or higher
Yamaha 1800 or higher
or
HK 3 series, Onkyo 7 series
plus
POWER AMPS!
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Thanks guys, audiojunkie & MAtZTER for your inputs :)
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mga sirs, for a budget of 30-35k what AVR/speaker combo would you recommend? entry level lang po.
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Mga Sirs... I'm planning to set-up my HT soon. I just want your opinion for the best speakers that I should use for the following receivers: Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon and Marantz.
Salamat. :)
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Mga Sirs... I'm planning to set-up my HT soon. I just want your opinion for the best speakers that I should use for the following receivers: Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon and Marantz.
Salamat. :)
Sir, marami kang dapat e-consider: budget, brand reference, Floorsatnadr or bookshelves, but first is audition those available sa mga dealers... ;D
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Sir, marami kang dapat e-consider: budget, brand reference, Floorsatnadr or bookshelves, but first is audition those available sa mga dealers... ;D
Salamat,pero kasi sa mga nababasa ko, for any budget, laging may receiver-speaker combination to be considered.
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Salamat,pero kasi sa mga nababasa ko, for any budget, laging may receiver-speaker combination to be considered.
depende kun anong kombination ang gusto mo that fits to your budget. Reading white papers of every model you consider and actual audition will help you more to decide.
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Around 35 to 40K ang budget (including the A/V receiver). More on movie viewing purposes ang gamit.
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sir update po kayo kung makabili na kayo. ;D
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mga sir, pwede po ba makahingi ng inputs regarding which brands of speakers and recievers yung warm and bright? i understand warm and bright combination makes a good blend so if you could share us. mraming salamat po in advance.
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Audition lang sir... bring a CD ur familiar with. Sa shangrila, Megamall, and Trinoma. Then you can ask here sa Pdvd kung ok ba ung setup for the price, and their opinions.
Of course, your own reference is what matters... goodluck!
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Around 35 to 40K ang budget (including the A/V receiver). More on movie viewing purposes ang gamit.
If its more on Movie viewing, a Yamaha receiver will do and a set of Wharfedale Speakers, many of the members has this combination :)
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Mga Sirs... I'm planning to set-up my HT soon. I just want your opinion for the best speakers that I should use for the following receivers: Onkyo, Yamaha, Denon and Marantz.
Salamat. :)
yamaha - yamaha
marantz - mordaunt short or gale
denon - could be great with B&W or paradigm
onkyo - B&W
harman kardon - jbl or infinity
just my recommendations.
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Dont forget the classifications of receivers to speaker combinations. Dont expect higher model speakers to sing with entry level receivers. All speakers were meant for the same class receivers or higher.
If possible, get a higher class receiver to speaker ratio & not the common "spend on a good speaker & SKIMP on the receiver".
And for HT, unless you are going to use power amps or flagship receivers, bookshelf speakers are enough since you will be setting them to SMALL in your receiver anyway. What you save from buying a floorstander , pour it on a good sub & your receiver.
I am confidently betting a cellphone that you will get better results this way than getting floorstanders & skimping on the receiver & subs at this budget level. ;D
My recommendation:
Entry level receiver: entry level BS
Mid level receiver (35+k): entry level FS or BS, mid level BS
Power amps or High end receivers: Mid level floorstanders
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theres actually no answer to this question unless he decides on a specific model of avr and brand already.
avr+speaker combinations also change when you jump from entry level-mid level-high end avr's.
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What A/V can drive a Jamo S 606 speakers? Can a yamaha Rx v461 do the job?
Please Advice. Thanks.
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My recommendation:
Entry level receiver: entry level BS
Mid level receiver (35+k): entry level FS or BS, mid level BS
Power amps or High end receivers: Mid level floorstanders
The higher model receiver you get, the better. That Jamo is a higher model FS with big side woofers.
In male lingo: picking a receiver is like chosing an engine for your custom built car. You can use a Kia Picanto engine on a Ford Expedition body, the car will still run somehow, but not to its optimal performance.
If you just want to hear just any sort of sound from it, go ahead with the 461. But if you want some serious HT slam (or gaming) or gripping, pissonurpants inducing action/horror movies. go for the high mid models or power amps (turbocharger!), they wont dissapoint.
avr+speaker combinations also change when you jump from entry level-mid level-high end avr's.
I agree, I have used 5 entry level and 3 mid level AVR's from different brands in the past years , then power amps, and the leap from entry to mid levels makes the difference. All the more w/ power amps.
I find the mid levels to be uncompromised & good in both music & HT. There may have been some comments in this site on Yamaha being better at this... Onkyo better at this... but that distinction is not applicable when it comes to the higher mid models. They all excell in both areas but the presentation is different for each. It just depends on w/c presentation you prefer.
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Mga sirs,
bago lang po ako dito, I got a Jamo av693 receiver paired it with Jamo E 350 floorstand speaker and E3 sur & cen. I also use Jamo sub 250.
ano po masasabi niyo sa receiver? do I need to replace it? or do I need to replace my whole set up? :)
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Also, dont forget AV receiver - Room combination!
The bigger your room, the bigger you need to spend for your receiver!
In an HT mag article I read about budget/ entry level to flagship AVR's comparisons, lower model/ lower powered receivers sacrifice their surround power to make sure the fronts get enough juice. This was shown with distortion tests & charts for all class AVR's to the flagships.
Thats why higher level receivers or power-amped setups sound "bigger" (& are meant for bigger rooms) because there is enough juices flowing for the surrounds.
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Thanks MAtZTER !
Now I understand.
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Also, dont forget AV receiver - Room combination!
The bigger your room, the bigger you need to spend for your receiver!
In an HT mag article I read about budget/ entry level to flagship AVR's comparisons, lower model/ lower powered receivers sacrifice their surround power to make sure the fronts get enough juice. This was shown with distortion tests & charts for all class AVR's to the flagships.
Thats why higher level receivers or power-amped setups sound "bigger" (& are meant for bigger rooms) because there is enough juices flowing for the surrounds.
u could still make use of a low power rxvr provided they have pre-outs and youll be employing a mulitchannel power amplifier...this is actually better than employing a high-powered rxver.
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MatZTER, could you advise me on this setup. A midlevel DVD player connect the 5.1 RCA output to power amps (midlevel). All of amplifier including the sub mga 100 to 200 amps just for the living room (a small one mga 30 to 40 sqm). Merong bang mono for the center?
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MatZTER, could you advise me on this setup. A midlevel DVD player connect the 5.1 RCA output to power amps (midlevel). All of amplifier including the sub mga 100 to 200 amps just for the living room (a small one mga 30 to 40 sqm). Merong bang mono for the center?
30-40sq is not small anymore & power amps are indeed well recommended for rooms of that size.
Power amps have no volume control, so you might mean a receiver? Can you specify the brands?
100w power amps are ok but 200w would do better for such a room size. Take note that the 100w of power amps will dwarf the performance of 100w receivers. So a 100w power amp (not receiver) is the minimum recommended for a room like this.
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40 sqm is quite a big room for ht. 100w power amp would be a minimum reqt for your 3 channels in front the surround channels maybe a little lower than this if u wont mind it that much. a midlevel receiver alone definitely wont satisfy. the best option would be an entry level rxvr with pre outs, a power amp for all the channels, and at least 300w rms output subwoofer rating.
magastos sir kc mjo malaki ang 40sqm.
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Just look for some high sensitivity speakers like a Klipsch horn speakers. Your 100 watt receiver, assuming it spews out real 100 watts per channel under FTC standards, should be able to make your 40sqm room come alive. And you will need at least two good subwoofers to tame room modes better in a large room.
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Need help, i want to know if ok lang ba imatch ang HK sa Wharf Diamond 9 Series or may marerecomend kayo na mas magand i match sa Harman Kardon
Many Thanks to all of you...
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i already listened that combination, perfect match bro.
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Ok po ba boston acoustics speakers?
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i already listened that combination, perfect match bro.
Wow! what model of hk? im planning to buy kasi hk may idea ka ba sa price? pero baka unahin ko muna wharf for center baka may marecommend ka
thanks...
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Spectra sells HK and wharfes. they might have stocks pa.
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Need help, i want to know if ok lang ba imatch ang HK sa Wharf Diamond 9 Series or may marerecomend kayo na mas magand i match sa Harman Kardon
Many Thanks to all of you...
WITH OUT A DOUBT!!! ;D This is the best combination. I currently have a set of Wharfs for center, fronts and surrounds. My amp and sub are Yammys for now, but plan to upgrade to an HK and Wharf sub in the future. Have to save up for it first! :P
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Kung music, any HK stereo receiver + 9.1 would be ok. My personal experience is with a NAD320bee + 9.1 combo. Nice sounding combination.
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just another suggestion, HK also sounds good with the very nice entry level DALI Concept series. although its a bit more expensive than the Wharfes, but they sound great! ;D you can audition them at Architectural Audio. HTH! ;)
goodluck! ;)
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thanks for all the reply...
balitaan ko na lang kayo pag nakabili na.. yehey
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oks ang wharfe sa hk,onkyo.
try mo rin infinity speakers since iisa mother company nila ;)
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Mga Sir, So i should opt for a reciever other than a power amps and should get a 200 watts reciever. Tanong ko lang may advantage ba ang may HDMI connector na reciever vs a coaxial or optical? May difference ba sa 5.1 dolby or DTS.
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Ok po ba boston acoustics speakers?
It's one of the recpectable brand in the market but I suggest to audition others for comparation... ;D
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walang advantage mas malinis lang wiring. unless true-hd na ung avr bale wala ung avr.
went to audioworld kanina, may yamaha na 559 (135wpc) 6.1 dts-es, dd-ex na. (24k) i dont think this is entry level. nakakatemp. the yammy 861 is 48k.
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Mga Sir, So i should opt for a reciever other than a power amps and should get a 200 watts reciever. Tanong ko lang may advantage ba ang may HDMI connector na reciever vs a coaxial or optical? May difference ba sa 5.1 dolby or DTS.
Recently upgraded to a HDMI receiver. Cant hear the diff., & like CT said, wires are just more organized. Video wise, cant see the diff from my component upconverting player. Mas maganda pa nga yung component DVD player ko kesa sa HDMI DVDp. :-\
Sir 200w receivers are in the flagship level & hundredsss of K's (100-300k). Just get a receiver w/ pre outs plus power amps. And remember that receiver power is measured diffferently from power amp's power. So dont under estimate the power amp figures. They will beat your receivers claimed ratings by a very audible margin.
For your 30-40sq room, my minimum most budgetted reco is the Denon 1907 and a Bada 5 channel amp. This might cost only around 42k & I bet it will kick any 60k+ receiver's butt in power & fill your room already.
If you have more budget go for a THX ultra power amp like the Rotel 1075 plus a mid level receiver. this will cost you about 105+k minimum.
went to audioworld kanina, may yamaha na 559 (135wpc) 6.1 dts-es, dd-ex na. (24k) i dont think this is entry level. nakakatemp. the yammy 861 is 48k.
sir Cris, get 661 na lang para may pre outs. Friendly suggestion lang. ;)
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Which model ng HK ang magandang i-match sa Diamond 9.1?
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9.1 lang? no other speakers? so stereo amp ang hanap mo?
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Mga Sir, you didnt see any difference from a HDMI on a upscaler dvd player set to 1080P vs component to a basic dvd player. So, i could just buy a branded basic dvd player (philips or pioneer, advise me) for my 37"LCD TV full HD (1080P) other than an upscaler.
Sir, A yamaha or pioneer reciever na mga 100 watts with yamaha, pioneer or wharfdale speakers (bookshelves type lang) or Daichi na lang kaya, puwede na kaya for a 20 sgm room (5.1 only). Forget about the 30-40 sqm room. Advise me also with a powered sub ung cheap lang na mga 150 watts max.
Sir, Don't have budget for a high end equipment. Just would like to hear good audio and video for movies.
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Mga Sir, you didnt see any difference from a HDMI on a upscaler dvd player set to 1080P vs component to a basic dvd player. So, i could just buy a branded basic dvd player (philips or pioneer, advise me) for my 37"LCD TV full HD (1080P) other than an upscaler.
Having an upscaling DVD player is considered redundanct if you already have a high definition LCD TV like what you have. THe signal from your component connection from any DVD player gets upscaled to the TV's native resolution which in your case is 1080p. All HD LCDs will upscale input video signals to their native resolution. ANd if your LCD TV does the correct upscaling, then what you see may not be any different from using an upscaling DVD player. You use an upscaling DVD player or any external upscaler if they perform a superior job at upscaling than what your LCD TV can. Many video enthusiasts use dedicated external upscalers costing about the same or more than your LCD TV because they are known to do the best job at upscaling.
Theoretically, HDMI and DVI should have better signal integrity than component for the same source. That's because there are no conversion signal losses between the player and the LCD display. The digital data is conserved from reading the disc to displaying the data. Because using component connection, you go through two conversion processes: (1) from the player's digtal to analog conversion to output into component jacks, and (2) to the LCD, from analog and back to digital state. Bear in mind that LCD and Plasmas are digital displays.
Sir, Don't have budget for a high end equipment. Just would like to hear good audio and video for movies.
Your 1080p 37" LCD TV is considered a high end equipment by many. So I suggest bagayan mo yan ng magandang HT sound system. At least go for the mid-range models of any brand. Just my thoughts.
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oh, so sorry, i was planning to setup a 3.1 system for now. I was thinking of 9.1 L/R , 9.cs, and a sub.
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Sir, I have read a lot about the HDMI vs component thing. I would like to know the actual fact ba. I have this standard dvd player (component connected) the LCD TV indicates a resolution of 576i at my LCD TV. With an orginal dvd disk as source it looks generally good at this resolution (Probably the TV is new). I would like to know if the TV could perform better with an upscaler dvd player set at 1080P or could i see a difference. I have a 37" full HD LCD TV (1920 x 1080P)
Sir, Do i have to buy a upscaler?
Sir Cannot afford to buy a Blu ray or HD player yet.
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Your 1080p 37" LCD TV is considered a high end equipment by many. So I suggest bagagyan mo yan ng magandang HT sound system. At least go for the mid-range models of any brand. Just my thoughts.
I second the motion!
For me, the audio aspect of HT is more of a priority than the video aspect. I am willing to spend more for audio than video! The audio gives more UMPH! to a movie than a souped up video. Just try to experience a well executed, well powered setup with action & horror movies, you will know what I mean!
Yes, it may be more expensive, but divide the cost to the number of hours of enjoying a kick@$$ HT and you will realize your investment is well worth it in the long run! (sorry, too much sugar, LOL)
You can also renovate (if thats possible) your 40 sqm place & divide it in 2 areas. Room borders help reinforce sound & a smaller 20sqm room will save you a lot in choosing your gear's power. But even then, choosing a high model receiver or power amps still has its benefits! You should see my 12sqm HT ! ;D
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How about the 42pv70...would an entry level AVR + entry level (or mid) BS work?
My main goal is a more enhanced experience compared to my current HTIB set up.
Kaya medyo entry level lang mun ang hanap ko.
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having an expensive TV isnt a pre-requisite to having an expensive HT (and vice versa)
Ive seen set-ups here in PDVD with 30k+ floorstanders and ung TV lumang 25 inch na CRT lang.
It really depends if you are more into audio or video or both. At the end of the day, learn from this site and buy the best
that you CAN AFFORD.
dont buy due to pressure of having a set-up equal to those that can afford it. eto ang simula ng away with your partner and utang.
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having an expensive TV isnt a pre-requisite to having an expensive HT (and vice versa)
Ive seen set-ups here in PDVD with 30k+ floorstanders and ung TV lumang 25 inch na CRT lang.
It really depends if you are more into audio or video or both. At the end of the day, learn from this site and buy the best
that you CAN AFFORD.
dont buy due to pressure of having a set-up equal to those that can afford it. eto ang simula ng away with your partner and utang.
Very well said sir ctlim76!!! ;D I totally agree. Also consider how satisfied you are with the sound of the system that you will get. Just make sure that when you invest in it, you will get your moneys worth in terms of satisfaction. ;)
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Let me rephrase my question...is there a big difference between an HTiB and an entry level AVR/Speaker combo? I agree that the display is just a part of bigger set up where everything should be considered.
Given this, what are the possible entry levels that I should be looking at (AVR and speakers)
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Let me rephrase my question...is there a big difference between an HTiB and an entry level AVR/Speaker combo? I agree that the display is just a part of bigger set up where everything should be considered.
Given this, what are the possible entry levels that I should be looking at (AVR and speakers)
It depends on what kind of HTIB you are comparing to, there are also decent HTib like JBLs, but during the time when I was still starting this hobby, I found out that most entry level AVR setup beats most HTiB in terms of musicality and HT experience, plus because it's a setup by components, upgrade is easier than HTiB. I can still remember when I sold my Creative 7.1 speakers and replaced with an entry level AVR+speakers+sub, first impression when I watched DTS movie is, " W :o :o :o :o W!". Im firm, I'll never go back to HTiB. :D
For AVR, look for those good for both music and HT, I suggest HK, Denon and Onkyo. For speakers, try wharfedales and mordaunt shorts, they are bang for the buck. If you can still extend some cash, look for AVR with pre-outs so you can upgrade with power amps later. Good luck! :D
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Sir, Ok i already have a good video. Just need a upscaler to enhance a little probably.
Now, My Audio. A friend of mine is selling his yamaha rx 530 and also his wharfdale na Diamond 8 series (bookselves) with the center (Diamond 8), and the surround are also made by wharfdale. Puwede na ba ito on a 20sqm room.
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Hi. I have a 9.1/9.CS and 9.DFS. They sound great for movies and music. I am also planning to upgrade from my currently quite old Pioneer receiver to an HK. ;D
Sabi rin ng mga Gurus very nice combi. There are plenty of users here in Pdvd who uses this combo.
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Thanks threadlock for the reponse. Still new to this and still trying to get my hands around what are the components that's really needed and what are my needs.
So technically what I need would be the following: DVD player, AVR, F/R/C speakers and sub (5.1). Then the connection will be DVD player OUT to AVR IN, AVR OUT to speakers and TV IN.
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bro, I suggest browse mo PinoyDVD's HT Picture Gallery:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?board=80.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?board=80.0)
Dami mga setups dyan, you'll be amused with the different tastes and preferences of our fellow members from entry level, mid-level to high-end setup. Most setups have accompanying list of gears they used, so as a beginner you can just get idea from it or just copycat.
BTW, wala pa ako lakas ng loob magpost dyan, nakakahiya kasi, chaos entry-level setup lang yung akin. ;D
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oo nga eh, ano kayang tamang HK for 9.1?
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At the end of the day, learn from this site and buy the best
that you CAN AFFORD.
dont buy due to pressure of having a set-up equal to those that can afford it. eto ang simula ng away with your partner and utang.
Agree! Like I said in another thread "whats the best setup":
the best setup is the one you have in your house now. Because thats what you can afford. If you break your bank to buy gears you cant afford, its not the "best" for you anymore. Rather its the best for the credit card or the AV shop. :)
But I think its not uncommon to see people break their banks just to get a flat panel TV, right? :)
I have a 37" full HD LCD TV (1920 x 1080P)
Sir, Do i have to buy a upscaler?
I have a 32" LCd in my bedroom & its hard to notice the diff w/ upscaling DVDp's until I sit near the TV. I even used it w/ a non progressive scan player before & I had no complaints with it. I am not saying there is no diff, just not enough to merit an upgrade.
Let me rephrase my question...is there a big difference between an HTiB and an entry level AVR/Speaker combo?
The big difference will come from the powered sub & receiver power of a separates setup. Thats why I always recommend get a good sub & receiver instead of pouring the budget on a FS, as these will produce more audible improvements than skimping on the sub & receiver just to get a FS. The speakers will be set to small anyway.
just my thoughts
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^ talaga matt? thats odd. kasi sakin halatang halata ang difference ng upscaler sa 32in na lcd... and to think di ako naniniwala dati.
ill even swear that my dv600's upscaler is way better than the full upscale of the ps3 on dvd.
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^ talaga matt? thats odd. kasi sakin halatang halata ang difference ng upscaler sa 32in na lcd... and to think di ako naniniwala dati.
Great sir! If the difference is big for you, then I am happy for you. I dont recall saying there is no difference. :)
I watch from 4.2 meters away so it doesnt seem to matter even if I use a non progressive player (pioneer also). But I did mention that there is a difference when I watch closely right? :)
Maybe I just wasnt able to type all the details.
<--- lazy to type ;D
Distance to screen matters and also screen size, The closer you are when watching OR the bigger the screen, the more significant the effect. So observations were also based on the diff between 90" & 32"
ill even swear that my dv600's upscaler is way better than the full upscale of the ps3 on dvd.
Come to my house, I will show you what pio 600 looks like on a PJ :)
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Sir, I have read a lot about the HDMI vs component thing. I would like to know the actual fact ba. I have this standard dvd player (component connected) the LCD TV indicates a resolution of 576i at my LCD TV. With an orginal dvd disk as source it looks generally good at this resolution (Probably the TV is new). I would like to know if the TV could perform better with an upscaler dvd player set at 1080P or could i see a difference. I have a 37" full HD LCD TV (1920 x 1080P)
Sir, Do i have to buy a upscaler?
Sir Cannot afford to buy a Blu ray or HD player yet.
Sir easier and cheapest way to do is to change resolution from interlaced "i" to progressive "p" na muna if you have a progressive capable dvd player :)
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Same question here...what is the best HK model for a full set of Wharfs Diamond 8 Series? :P
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it would really depend on your budget sir... our gurus here would always suggest, get the most out of your budget. ;) so either get the at least the 3xx series up or a model with pre-outs, 2xx series i think has pre-outs for future upgrades like power amps. ;)
just my 2 cents... ;D
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Mga sir, salamat sa mga reply ninyo, I"ll just opt for a upscaler (Philips or pioneer) na may 1080P setting might also see difference just like ctlim on his 32".
Sir ricky. tried your suggestion on fast action films medyo okay naman siya. A very slight difference lalo na pag fast scene (Car chase at kung fu) medyo nawala ung parang shadow.
Siguro if your just a viewer you could not see a difference. If the viewer (just like us) who are inclined technically might see a difference.
What are they using at the appiliance centers? lalo na yung mga sa samsung LCD TV display. Upscaler ba yun or an HD player. Linaw kasi resolution, Ayaw naman sabihain nang salesman kung ano source.
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i've got a 2xx driving floorstanders in a 3.1 set up. two years now and no SARS itch yet.
thinking of a hk3480 for a stereo set up with my new crystal 40s.
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Need help from the Pros:
My room is around 18 sq.m. and im planning to buy separates. Can you recommend what AVR, speakers and Sub I should buy considering my area. My budget is around 30-40k :) Partner ko sya sa Pioneer 600AV at sa Panasonic 42PV70H :)
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Need help from the Pros:
My room is around 18 sq.m. and im planning to buy separates. Can you recommend what AVR, speakers and Sub I should buy considering my area. My budget is around 30-40k :) Partner ko sya sa Pioneer 600AV at sa Panasonic 42PV70H :)
Denon 1907 (on sale at 16.5k)
Wharfe 9.1 fronts & center (10k)
Wharfe 9dfs (4.5k)
US audio Sub (5k?)
Coax speaker wires (2-3k)
hth :)
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Denon 1907 (on sale at 16.5k)
Wharfe 9.1 fronts & center (10k)
Wharfe 9dfs (4.5k)
US audio Sub (5k?)
Coax speaker wires (2-3k)
hth :)
Hi MAtZTER
Saang store available?
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Denon 1907 (on sale at 16.5k)
Wharfe 9.1 fronts & center (10k)
Wharfe 9dfs (4.5k)
US audio Sub (5k?)
Coax speaker wires (2-3k)
hth :)
Thanks Matzter! :) Active ba or passive ang US audio sub? alin ba mas ok? :) ang mahal pla ng speaker wires p lang! hehehe! Magastos talaga etong bisyo na eto! :)
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mga bosing singit lang at o.t. how about hk with q acoustics? does the warm and bright combination matter on this one? as i note correct me if im wrong wharf and hk are both warm. a good combination as most say warm and bright either the speaker or the avr.
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Almost the same set up as sir Matt mentioned:
Denon 1907
Wharf 9.1 (Fronts)
Wharf WH2 (Center/Surround)
Needs:
Sub: US Audio (6.5K) -- Sir Matt saan yang 5K na US Audio sub?
For my room 3 x 4 the sound is great. Need to upgrade to a 42" display para mas masarap ang viewing :)
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Thanks Matzter! :) Active ba or passive ang US audio sub? alin ba mas ok? :) ang mahal pla ng speaker wires p lang! hehehe! Magastos talaga etong bisyo na eto! :)
Active. 6.5k pala US ausio sub, as per Jep.
Magastos? You are just at the tip of the iceberg ;D. Consider software cost , upgrade cost, etc.
Contentment is the key to this hobby, the more content you are, the less you will spend. :D
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US Audio subs can be auditioned at Dai-mega. I do not like the sound of US Audio subs. They are too boomy/muffled for most types of music. They also have Bay Audio 10" sub on display, it is a sealed sub and was tighter for jazz/classical/pop music but lacks the power for that thumping bass for most RnBs/hip-hop/Raps/bass tracks and easily bottoms up in heavy bass music.
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Active. 6.5k pala US ausio sub, as per Jep.
Magastos? You are just at the tip of the iceberg ;D. Consider software cost , upgrade cost, etc.
Contentment is the key to this hobby, the more content you are, the less you will spend. :D
OO nga... entry-level pa nga lang yung sa akin ... yung sa inyo eh talaga namang high-end at pinag gagastusan ng maigi :) Yan din target ko...pero hirap kumuha ng wife approval :)
May question pla ako: Kahoy kse yung walls ko eh... if idikit ko dun yung DFS hindi kya lumangitngit ang walls ko? :( Ok pa rin kya yung setup na nirecommned nyo considering my wooden walls? :(
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OO nga... entry-level pa nga lang yung sa akin ... yung sa inyo eh talaga namang high-end at pinag gagastusan ng maigi :) Yan din target ko...pero hirap kumuha ng wife approval :)
May question pla ako: Kahoy kse yung walls ko eh... if idikit ko dun yung DFS hindi kya lumangitngit ang walls ko? :( Ok pa rin kya yung setup na nirecommned nyo considering my wooden walls? :(
LOL. I started w/ entry levels too on my first HT & never found contentment (thus my advice above) until my current power amped setup. Yan, napagastos tuloy sa kaka upgrade (plus oras pa). Thats why I keep recommending people to get the best gears they could reasonably afford... and dont skimp on the receiver (very important IMO). Constant upgrading can be a b**ch. :D
Get it right the first time! Buti pa kayo may PDVD when you are starting your HT! :D
Wood walls are ok, just place those rubber stickers found in ACE in between the speaker & the wall.
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Pero kung pure HT lang naman...ok ba ang US Audio.
I was able to audition this sa shop ni Sir Jeff, ok naman yung performance.
I'm going to Mega Mall today to check Dai and other stores.
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LOL. I started w/ entry levels too on my first HT & never found contentment (thus my advice above) until my current power amped setup. Yan, napagastos tuloy sa kaka upgrade (plus oras pa). Thats why I keep recommending people to get the best gears they could reasonably afford... and dont skimp on the receiver (very important IMO). Constant upgrading can be a b**ch. :D
Get it right the first time! Buti pa kayo may PDVD when you are starting your HT! :D
Wood walls are ok, just place those rubber stickers found in ACE in between the speaker & the wall.
what exactly are these rubberstickers?Anong tawag? bka kse punta ako ACE para mabili ko na :) TIA
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what exactly are these rubberstickers?Anong tawag? bka kse punta ako ACE para mabili ko na :) TIA
Its those rubber "bumper" stickers you place below stuff to keep them from being scratched, they come in many sizes at the sticker section of ACE or True Value.
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Its those rubber "bumper" stickers you place below stuff to keep them from being scratched, they come in many sizes at the sticker section of ACE or True Value.
Ok thanks :) will look for it ;)
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Ano po ba tamang positioning ng rear speakers? Sa likod talaga or pde rin sa side ng viewer.... ano ba mas ok? dapat rin ba ear level or ok lang naka bitin sa ceiling tapos directed paibaba?
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sa tagal ko ng nde napapadalaw sa pinoydvd, yung tanong ko sa kabilang section, dto ko pla dapat natanong.
i really enjoy the gurus here helping newbies and i guess people like me who is trying to regain some ht set-up after 2-3 yrs hiatus of our hobby (budget issues).
mahirap din kpag natamaan ng SARS, i remembered when i had to sell my set-up then due to emergency, iniwasan ko muna magbasa sa mga set-up section (audio/speakers/amplifiers/receivers) para nde ako lumungkot nun at ma-miss mga gears ko.
napaiwas din ako pumunta sa mga AV shops nun at nagtrain sarili ko na mag-appreciate ng ipod shuffle.
i really had to tighten up my belt para makabili ng HT set-up nun.
But now i'm slowly trying to complete the HT set-up piece by piece with what sir matz can buy with a limited budget.
hopefully, i will be able to complete my HT set-up soon with a budget of around 35k maxed. as much as possible also, ayoko na muna ng upgrade (particularly spkrs)
i was lucky enough to closed a deal to get a rcvr (pre-owned hk230 mint unit) at around 12k (although sa sabado ko makukuha yung unit). i do hope i can find the necessary FS and center to pair with this without going over my budget and also with out the SARS attack.
it would be nice to have some hdmi features but i can live w/o them since contented ako sa crt tv at sd dvd players
(i can use my existing aowa spkrs for surround/ sub will be my last concern - probably nxt yr pa if budget permits)
it was suggested to me to get wharfes already which i will consider. hope you guys can suggest more alternatives po. tnx :)
more power dun sa nde nagsasawa magbigay ng advise. :D
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Ano po ba tamang positioning ng rear speakers? Sa likod talaga or pde rin sa side ng viewer.... ano ba mas ok? dapat rin ba ear level or ok lang naka bitin sa ceiling tapos directed paibaba?
IMHO, kung 5.1 set-up mo, yung sa surround, i wud say sa side at about 2 ft above the seating position (sweet spot) kung san ka manonood.
sa 7.1 - nde ko alam sa surround back coz i never had a 7.1 rcvr before.
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IMHO, kung 5.1 set-up mo, yung sa surround, i wud say sa side at about 2 ft above the seating position (sweet spot) kung san ka manonood.
sa 7.1 - nde ko alam sa surround back coz i never had a 7.1 rcvr before.
Ok lang kya if mga almost 4 ft high? Mas ok ba if naka direct sa listener yung speakers or pde rin na naka dikit sa backwall... Wharfedale DFS yung balak ko ilagay... parang two-directional naman sya...parang i think pde na rin sya :) Sa tingin nyo?
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Ok lang kya if mga almost 4 ft high? Mas ok ba if naka direct sa listener yung speakers or pde rin na naka dikit sa backwall... Wharfedale DFS yung balak ko ilagay... parang two-directional naman sya...parang i think pde na rin sya :) Sa tingin nyo?
tingin ko naman ok ang 4 ft high, sensya na at di ako familiar sa Wharfedale DFS eh, kung di-pole sya, tingin ko ok na yan.
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Hi, Just curious. What is an upscaler?
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A DVD player that could enhance (daw) the resolution of a standard dvd disk. Normally a dvd movie has a resolution of 560i/460P (not sure), but with an upscaler you could put it up to 720P, 1080i or at 1080P.
You have to attach the player to an large LCD TV capable of above resolution to see a difference (kung meron).
My own experience, very slight ang difference or non at all to a viewer.
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A DVD player that could enhance (daw) the resolution of a standard dvd disk. Normally a dvd movie has a resolution of 560i/460P (not sure), but with an upscaler you could put it up to 720P, 1080i or at 1080P.
You have to attach the player to an large LCD TV capable of above resolution to see a difference (kung meron).
My own experience, very slight ang difference or non at all to a viewer.
Yep, just like I said, it doesnt make a big diff on a smaller Tv or when you are viewing from 4 or more meters away (my bed to wall dist).
When you are testing for PQ differences of upscalers in a store, BE REALISTIC and view the difference from your normal viewing position/distance.
Its NOT realistic to watch from 1 meter away, see a difference, SPEND an extra 2-3k for the DVDp & hdmi cable (yung iba baka yung 11k monster HDMI pa! LOL) , then come home frustrated cuz there is no difference watching from your bed, 5 meters away! :-\
SAVE YOUR MONEY na lang! :D
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Sir Matzter, True, no difference at all, Kung meron man sumasama pa lalo to higher resolution.
Should have both a midend/high end standard player with progressive and interlace option or have wait for a HD/blu ray player
I already have the upscaler any advise what to do with it (para maenjoy Ko naman). 37" LCD TV HDMI both side.
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sa tagal ko ng nde napapadalaw sa pinoydvd, yung tanong ko sa kabilang section, dto ko pla dapat natanong.
i really enjoy the gurus here helping newbies and i guess people like me who is trying to regain some ht set-up after 2-3 yrs hiatus of our hobby (budget issues).
mahirap din kpag natamaan ng SARS, i remembered when i had to sell my set-up then due to emergency, iniwasan ko muna magbasa sa mga set-up section (audio/speakers/amplifiers/receivers) para nde ako lumungkot nun at ma-miss mga gears ko.
napaiwas din ako pumunta sa mga AV shops nun at nagtrain sarili ko na mag-appreciate ng ipod shuffle.
i really had to tighten up my belt para makabili ng HT set-up nun.
But now i'm slowly trying to complete the HT set-up piece by piece with what sir matz can buy with a limited budget.
hopefully, i will be able to complete my HT set-up soon with a budget of around 35k maxed. as much as possible also, ayoko na muna ng upgrade (particularly spkrs)
i was lucky enough to closed a deal to get a rcvr (pre-owned hk230 mint unit) at around 12k (although sa sabado ko makukuha yung unit). i do hope i can find the necessary FS and center to pair with this without going over my budget and also with out the SARS attack.
it would be nice to have some hdmi features but i can live w/o them since contented ako sa crt tv at sd dvd players
(i can use my existing aowa spkrs for surround/ sub will be my last concern - probably nxt yr pa if budget permits)
it was suggested to me to get wharfes already which i will consider. hope you guys can suggest more alternatives po. tnx :)
more power dun sa nde nagsasawa magbigay ng advise. :D
Nothing beats spending the entire weekend visiting AV showrooms and indulging your ears and eyes and feasting on you SARS without committing yet. Though if you can't help it, just bring your credit card(s) with you. ;D Bad advice. ;D
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Nothing beats spending the entire weekend visiting AV showrooms and indulging your ears and eyes and feasting on you SARS without committing yet. Though if you can't help it, just bring your credit card(s) with you. ;D Bad advice. ;D
hahaha, been there, done that.... kya halos 2 yrs ako medyo umiwas nung kinailangan ko ibenta set-up ko nun :(
mahirap at nakakalungkot ng mawalan ng ht at sounds sa bahay eh.. tapos masasabik pa kpag mapapadalaw sa mga suking a/v na tindahan..
now, i already have an idea what speakers i'm getting for my receiver ;D
will it be HK/?? All the Way!!!!! again or not, i wonder....
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Hi,
Just bought my A/V receiver and speakers yesterday from Theater Works (Trinoma) for my first HT project. I got the Denon 1907, Wharf Diamond 9.3 (F) , WH-2 (C/Sur) and the US Audio 510 (Sub). Also bought a matching Pioneer DV600AV. Can't wait to set these up. BTW, the people there in TW were very helpful and accommodating, esp Jennifer and JR ...Good prices too! :)
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amthyst - major burn! you prchased a very nice set. pics na susunod sa HT Gallery :)
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amthyst - major burn! you prchased a very nice set. pics na susunod sa HT Gallery :)
yep, medyo mahal pero mas nakamura ako di hamak kaysa kung yung orig choice ko na (hk avr 145+cs480) combo...buti na lang medyo maraming experienced at mababait na tao dito sa forums who always share their inputs...i also tested the setup yesterday and wala akong reklamo - and yung good pricing sa TW also helped... :)
my HT room now is really small but am planning ahead kung sakaling mag-expand ako ng room size...i seized the opportunity na medyo may budget ngayon at affordable pa prices... :) anyway, will post pics later...
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yep, medyo mahal pero mas nakamura ako di hamak kaysa kung yung orig choice ko na (hk avr 145+cs480) combo...buti na lang medyo maraming experienced at mababait na tao dito sa forums who always share their inputs...i also tested the setup yesterday and wala akong reklamo - and yung good pricing sa TW also helped... :)
my HT room now is really small but am planning ahead kung sakaling mag-expand ako ng room size...i seized the opportunity na medyo may budget ngayon at affordable pa prices... :) anyway, will post pics later...
Very Good buy amethyst_arr! I bet it will really sound good. I've been from every A/V store and so far, TheaterWorks have been the most helpful and informative. They also offer very low prices compared to other stores specially those non-specialty stores. We'll be waiting for the pix!
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mga sir, anu po ba ok n AVR w/ pre out and HDMI primarily for movies and gaming? pre outs ksi nabasa ko dito na mas ok kung may pre outs para di na kailangan palitan buong AV pag gs2 mu pa palakasin yung set up mo (more flexibility for your system), pero parang yung mga mid-range AVRs lang yung may pre outs... and yung hdmi naman para maximized yung HDTV...
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mga sir, anu po ba ok n AVR w/ pre out and HDMI primarily for movies and gaming? pre outs ksi nabasa ko dito na mas ok kung may pre outs para di na kailangan palitan buong AV pag gs2 mu pa palakasin yung set up mo (more flexibility for your system), pero parang yung mga mid-range AVRs lang yung may pre outs... and yung hdmi naman para maximized yung HDTV...
Not necessarily mid range AVR's only have pre-outs. For Onkyo maybe. These below are the cheapest models w/ pre outs:
Denon: 190x series (mid = 2800 series)
Marantz: lowest model has pre outs already
Yamaha: 600 series (Mid level 1x00 series)
Harman: HK200 series (mid level is 300 series)
Marantz 4001 has pre outs & HDMI. Its the best sub 30k HDMI receiver w/ pre out bargain out there (I think)
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ok ba THX receivers ng Pioneer? specifically the VSX-LX50. ano sound characteristics nila? warm, bright, etc?
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Not necessarily mid range AVR's only have pre-outs. For Onkyo maybe. These below are the cheapest models w/ pre outs:
Denon: 190x series (mid = 2800 series)
Marantz: lowest model has pre outs already
Yamaha: 600 series (Mid level 1x00 series)
Harman: HK200 series (mid level is 300 series)
Marantz 4001 has pre outs & HDMI. Its the best sub 30k HDMI receiver w/ pre out bargain out there (I think)
thanx sir, mejo nagaalangan ako sa yamaha ksi 1.2 palang HDMI nung 661, ung mga 1.3 nila na HDMI yung x800 series, and the 661 costs 35K sa fesival nung tumingin ako... baka bgla maglabas ng hdmi 1.3 ang yamaha sa 6xx series nila bgla yari tayu jan hehehehe.... follow up question lang po kung ok ba yung diamond 9 ng wharfes sa mga receivers na binigay?
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ok ba THX receivers ng Pioneer? specifically the VSX-LX50. ano sound characteristics nila? warm, bright, etc?
As noted by sir AV_phile in some of his post, THX certicatification can be taken as a grain of salt if the receiver is the only one which is THX certified. To be truly a THX qualified setup, ALL your equipment must be THX certified or must pass THX qualifications including the the receiver, speakers, cables, room, etc.
Link: http://www.orionstudios.com/D5/THX.htm (http://www.orionstudios.com/D5/THX.htm)
The various minimum aspects of a full THX certified home theater system include a THX certified preamplifier/surround sound processor, certified amplifiers, certified interconnect cables and speaker wire, certified subwoofer, certified surround channel speakers, certified center channel speaker, and certified front left and right speakers. THX also certifies laserdisc and DVD players, equalizers, receivers, and acoustically transparent projection screens (screens with microscopic holes allowing speakers to be placed behind them with little or no sound quality degradation).
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In order to create a true THX system, however, all THX components should be used throughout the sound chain.
The good thing about THX certified receiver is that it is stable with 4 Ohm load as it is part of the qualification so it can easily drive almost all speakers. :D
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threadlock, thanks for the reply. ;D
are Pioneer receivers thin sounding?
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As noted by sir Matz in some of his post, THX certicatification can be taken as a grain of salt if the receiver is the only one which is THX certified. To be truly a THX qualified setup, ALL your equipment must be THX certified or must pass THX qualifications including the the receiver, speakers, cables, room, etc.
Si sir AV_phile yun! give credit where its due. hehe ;)
The good thing about THX certified receiver is that it is stable with 4 Ohm load as it is part of the qualification so it can easily drive almost all speakers. :D
THIS is my reason for choosing THX certified receivers. The power section :). But most receivers are 2 channels driven rated so I still prefer power amps.
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si sir AV_phile pala nagsabi about the THX hehehe. Dumadami na ata ang aking white hairs... ;D
threadlock, thanks for the reply. ;D
are Pioneer receivers thin sounding?
Heard the pioneer-jamo combi in SM appliance centers and my impression is manipis talaga ang midrange ng combi na ito. I don't know if the problem is with the Jamo speaker or the pioneer. Best is to audition it.
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si sir AV_phile pala nagsabi about the THX hehehe. Dumadami na ata ang aking white hairs... ;D
Heard the pioneer-jamo combi in SM appliance centers and my impression is manipis talaga ang midrange ng combi na ito. I don't know if the problem is with the Jamo speaker or the pioneer. Best is to audition it.
Same here! heard the SM appliance Jamo-pioneer combo. But its not the THX model though.
But its not manipis to me, the midrange was "butas" IMO. I can hear the higher freq & lower freq but something was seriously missing (it just was not there!) with the midrange. :-[
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thanks for the replies. im setting up a small condominium unit bedroom setup with either paradigm cinema 110 5.1 speaker set or polk audio RM20's. can you recommend a receiver? is the Pioneer VSX-LX50 THX receiver kinda ''overkill'' for the speakers and room size considering that it's a small condo unit bedroom?
btw, room size is around 10sqm. (will double check hehe)
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Just turn down the volume to your comfortable listening levels. Since your's is in a condo, you may want to invite your neighbors to a party in your suite and explain to them what your desired level is. If they object, then you know what level to use. ;D
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thanks for the replies. im setting up a small condominium unit bedroom setup with either paradigm cinema 110 5.1 speaker set or polk audio RM20's. can you recommend a receiver? is the Pioneer VSX-LX50 THX receiver kinda ''overkill'' for the speakers and room size considering that it's a small condo unit bedroom?
btw, room size is around 10sqm. (will double check hehe)
No such thing as overkill IMO. the more breathing room your receiver has, the less it is prone to distortion.
If you want proof, modesty aside (for illustration purpose only :D) I have a THX receiver, separate THX power amp, a whoppingly powerful THX sub (plus one more sub) in my condo HT & its just a pathetic 12 sqm room!
My bedroom setup w/c is bigger than my HT room uses small JBL satellites. I once used an entry level receiver that distorts at around 80% of the volume and it could barely fill the room with sound. I recently (2 months ago) changed it to an integrated 5 channel power amp that can play LOUD and really fill the room with sound... at just 50% of its volume w/ NO distortion. Wifey was actually praising the bedroom setup yesterday, lol.
The difference.... is in the power! With excess power there is more dynamic headroom! More juice for surrounds! So that it fills your room with sound. I read in an HT mag article that entry levels compromise power on their surrounds first just so that the fronts will have more.
If its too much, then like sir AV said, just turn the volume down.
Better to be "busog" than "bitin"! ;D
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Better to be "busog" than "bitin"! ;D
who wants to be "bitin"? >:( wow pare hassle yun! ;D
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thanks for the suggestions, bahala na kung anong receiver ang gagamitin ko for my setup. ;D
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Bitin sa dining table or sa bedroom? hehe
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Bitin sa dining table or sa bedroom? hehe
sa dining table? ::)
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its not how many watts you have driving the speakers that is important....it also depends on the quality of every watt that the amp pumps out. IMHO if the first watt sounds like crap then to hell with the 999 watts that the amp has in store.
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gentlemen,
what would be the ideal speakers for the onkyo tx-sr606? i am mostly into music, would prefer sana a floorstandingspeakers, any suggestions?
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SIRS need some help:
Be getting the YAMAHA 633 receiver soon so i'm thinking of a good pair of speakers to match them with. Anong ok sirs? Warf? Mission?
Be putting them in my small (50sq meter) CONDO sa living room area. Di ko rin alam kung Bookself or Floorstand speakers kunin ko. And does the DFS Surrounds (rear speakers) a good choice? Saw the Warfdale WH-2 for 5k lang eh. (rear speakers with center na)
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@yakisoba
How much budget for the 5 speakers not including subwoofer?
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I'm currently considering upgrading my HTiB and use a kenwood KRF-X 9090D.
Qouestion:
1. Would it still need an integrated power amplifier for fuller sound reproduction if used for a 5.1 or higher set-up?
2. In your opinion, what would be the best entry-level or mid-level speaker to pair it with (small room area, 3 sided wall and open R hand side)?
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SIRS need some help:
Be getting the YAMAHA 633 receiver soon so i'm thinking of a good pair of speakers to match them with. Anong ok sirs? Warf? Mission?
Be putting them in my small (50sq meter) CONDO sa living room area. Di ko rin alam kung Bookself or Floorstand speakers kunin ko. And does the DFS Surrounds (rear speakers) a good choice? Saw the Warfdale WH-2 for 5k lang eh. (rear speakers with center na)
go for the wharfedale diamond series. best bang for buck speakers. go with either the 9.5 or 9.6. if you don't want to use a sub, go for the 9.6. :)
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thanks guys for the replies my MAX budget is at least 15-20k. I'm thinking of getting bookshelf type speakers rather than floor standers because of the space ... ok lang kaya yun? If I get the bookself type and don;t install subs .. k lang naman yung movie / games experience right?
What I plan to get is the ff:
1 diamond 9cs
1 pair diamond 9.1
1 pair diamond WH-3
1 Us Audio 508 < -- if I plan to get a SUB. Prob lang is baka madistorbo yung neighbors hehehe.
I will be putting them in my living room area - - 4.8 meters length from COUCH to TV ... medyo malayo k na kaya yung sounds. I plan to maximize the receiver (yamaha 663) but not makinng it too loud naman for the neighbors.
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thanks guys for the replies my MAX budget is at least 15-20k. I'm thinking of getting bookshelf type speakers rather than floor standers because of the space ... ok lang kaya yun? If I get the bookself type and don;t install subs .. k lang naman yung movie / games experience right?
What I plan to get is the ff:
1 diamond 9cs
1 pair diamond 9.1
1 pair diamond WH-3
1 Us Audio 508 < -- if I plan to get a SUB. Prob lang is baka madistorbo yung neighbors hehehe.
I will be putting them in my living room area - - 4.8 meters length from COUCH to TV ... medyo malayo k na kaya yung sounds. I plan to maximize the receiver (yamaha 663) but not makinng it too loud naman for the neighbors.
i suggest getting a sub especially since you're planning to use bookshelves. you won't get enough rumble with bookshelves. you won't be able to get the full movie experience. :) you can get the 9cs, 9.1, dfs and sw150 for only 23.4k. just a little over budget but for sure you'll get the movie and gaming experience you want. :)
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Hi Guys, Ive already let go of HTIB, and really really wanted to go the "separates" way. Im eyeing the Yamaha 363 as this fits my budget (14.5k), has HDMI for my pv70 and plan to have bd player soon.
http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=90956
Yamaha RXV-363 Receiver
iPod Compatibility: (With Optional YDS-10)
Bluetooth Compatibility: (With Optional YBA-10)
Compressed Music Enhancer
HDMI (In/Out): 2 / 1)
Detailed Specifications:
Channels:5 RMS
Output Power (1kHz): 100W x 5
Total Power (20Hz - 20kHz): 500W (1kHz)
Dolby Digital EX/ Dolby Pro Logic IIx: (Dolby Digital / Dolby Pro Logic II)
DTS-ES Discrete 6.1: (DTS Digital Surround)
iPod Compatibility: (With Optional YDS-10)
Bluetooth Compatibility: (With Optional YBA-10)
Compressed Music Enhancer
HDMI (In/Out):(2 / 1)
Component Video (In/Out): (3 / 1)
A/V Inputs (S-Video): 4
Digital Inputs/Outputs [O: Optical, C: Coaxial]: (O: 2, C: 1)
Front A/V with Digital Input: (A/V Only)
Front Mini Input for Portables
D/A Conversion: 192 kHz / 24 bit
Surround Programs: 8
Night Listening Enhancer
Speaker A, B or A + B: (A,B)
Selectable Subwoofer Crossover
Multi-Channel Decoder Inputs: 6-Channel
Learning Remote Capability: Preset
Product Dimensions: (W x H x D): 17-1/8 x 5-5/16 x 12-1/2
Product Weight (lbs.): 17.6
Question is, what speakers will pair well with this? they say wharfs goes well with yammies, but with my budget of 20k ( avr and 1 pair of speakers), i think 9.1 (5.5k)lang ang swak sa budget ko. aside from wharf 9.1, kahit mahal ng konti baka magawan ko pa ng paraan.
what do you think?
thanks a lot!
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or instaed of the yamaha, go for Onkyo TX-SR506? This one sells for 19.8k, will this make me somehow more flexible in terms of choosing which speakers to use?
http://www.onecall.com/ProductDetails.aspx?id=91163
Detailed Specifications:
Amplifier Section
Power Output
Front L/R
75 W + 75 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz-20 kHz, 0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W + 100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
Center
75 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround L/R
75 W + 75 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W + 100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
Surround Back L/R
75 W + 75 W (8 ohms, 20 Hz–20 kHz, 0.08%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
100 W + 100 W (6 ohms, 1 kHz, 0.1%, 2 channels driven, FTC)
Dynamic Power
180 W (3 ohms, 1 ch)
160 W (4 ohms, 1 ch)
100 W (8 ohms, 1 ch)
THD (Total Harmonic Distortion)
0.08% (Rated power)
Damping Factor
60 (Front, 1 kHz, 8 ohms)
Input Sensitivity and Impedance
200 mV/47 k-ohms (Line)
Output Level and Impedance
200 mV/2.2 k-ohms (Rec out)
Frequency Response
5 Hz–100 kHz/+1 dB, -3 dB
Tone Control
±10 dB, 50 Hz (Bass)
±10 dB, 20 kHz (Treble)
Signal-to-Noise Ratio
100 dB (Line, IHF-A)
Speaker Impedance
6 ohms–16 ohms
Video Section
Input Sensitivity/Output Level and Impedance
Video
1 Vp-p/75 ohms (Component and S-Video Y)
0.7 Vp-p/75 ohms (Component PB/CB, PR/CR)
0.28 Vp-p/75 ohms (S-Video C)
1 Vp-p/75 ohms (Composite)
Component Video Frequency Response
5 Hz–50 MHz, -3dB
Tuner Section
Tuning Frequency Range
FM: 87.5 MHz–107.9 MHz
AM: 530 kHz–1,710 kHz
FM/AM Preset Memory: 40 stations
General
Power Supply: AC 120 V, 60 Hz
Power Consumption: 4.9 A
Dimensions (W x H x D): 17 1/8 x 5 7/8 x 14 15/16 in. / (435 x 149.6 x 379.2 mm)
Weight: 21.56 lbs. (9.8 kg)
thanks a lot!
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Do you listen really loud?
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how big is your room and how loud is ur listening habbits... if your room is not so big getting a 75-80 watt amp is okay already specially if its just a bedroom
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Btw yung rating ng Yamaha, at 1kHz lang siya so when you translate that 100W @ 1kHz to full-bandwidth 20Hz-20kHz, mga around 70W siya in reality.
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hi blued and simon, itll be in a small sala, yes i listen to loud music, pero it'll be primarily used for movies, i guess 70:30, movies: music ratio.
im really pressured to get this done/completed asap, hoildays are coming and kahit dvd player man lang wala ako kasi na let go ko na HTIB ko.
thanks!
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Kapag tumitingin ka ng receiver, look at the features and not the wattage ratings. Average users typically use no more than 10W of power. Check mo yung 363 463 563 kung ano yung mga features na kailangan mo. Kung basic lang talaga pwede na yung 363.
Go here to check: http://www.yamaha.com/yec/avreceivers/rxv_rxz.html?CTID=5000300&CNTYP=PRODUCT
Btw pwede ka rin naman muna bumili ng DVD player since separates na itong balak mo bilhin ngayon. :)
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Kapag tumitingin ka ng receiver, look at the features and not the wattage ratings. Average users typically use no more than 10W of power. Check mo yung 363 463 563 kung ano yung mga features na kailangan mo. Kung basic lang talaga pwede na yung 363.
Go here to check: http://www.yamaha.com/yec/avreceivers/rxv_rxz.html?CTID=5000300&CNTYP=PRODUCT
Btw pwede ka rin naman muna bumili ng DVD player since separates na itong balak mo bilhin ngayon. :)
thanks blued! i think ok nako sa 363 eh, im just contemplating na baka mas future proof si onkyo, difference is 5k, na pwede na pambili ng wharfe 9.1.
yeah hanap nako ng pio upscaling dvd! for my pana pv70.
exctiing pero im sure mapapalo ako ni batas. ;)
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exctiing pero im sure mapapalo ako ni batas. ;)
dapat sumunod tyo kay batas dahil mahirap na madog house
for a 5k difference though go for the onkyo medyo bitin yung yammy if ur going to use it sa sala... hanap ka nlng na second hand speakers mas mura :) mga 4k ang 9.1 sa buy and sell section
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its really a small salay, 35squares lang sya, mabibitin ba si yamaha for that area? ubos na yung 9.1 na nasa for sale section natin, if my memory serves me right, ke oreoshake yun. I saw some 8.3 at 4k and 8.4 at 6.5k daw sa FS section natin. malaki ba difference ng 9 series sa 8? kasi parang ok na si 8.3 eh, tower pa.
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its really a small salay, 35squares lang sya, mabibitin ba si yamaha for that area? ubos na yung 9.1 na nasa for sale section natin, if my memory serves me right, ke oreoshake yun. I saw some 8.3 at 4k and 8.4 at 6.5k daw sa FS section natin. malaki ba difference ng 9 series sa 8? kasi parang ok na si 8.3 eh, tower pa.
i never owned a 9 series so i cant compare i like the 8 series because of how it looks like to be honest :)... btw im the one selling the 8.3 its currently reserved to gunblade ... i have a 8.4 also and i can say those are good speakers for its price.. antay antay ka lang it took me 2 months to complete my 8 sereis na set up
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ako nuon isip ko kung mid end receiver gamitin ko or mag budget receiver ako..thinking of saving for other gears (like 2nd hand speakers..etc) and pang settle ng CC bills.
i've decided to go with the budget AVR. nung ma test ko..it seems tama yung decision na ginawa ko.saktong sakto lang yung loudness (feeling ko nga sobra pa). if you're going to buy an expensive receiver and kung di mo rin ma maximize yung power ng amp mo kasi you can't go too loud due to sleeping kids and neighbors parang sayang naman naman yung amp.may potential yung amp pero you won't be able to bring it out.
i don't know baka sa umpisa lang ako satisfied. sana naman nde.hehe.. ;D
kaya the best is to know kung hanggang san mo gagamitin yung amp.mag upgrade ka na lang kung makukulangan ka sa future.pag nakulangan ka..it means you're into this hobby na deeply. so updgrades won't be an issue na kasi normal lang sa hobby na to yon (save and sell your gear na papalitan mo) :)
pero this is just me.so follow your heart.yan ang dapat manaig.
exctiing pero im sure mapapalo ako ni batas. ;)
OT:it seems common problem to sa mga married persons.hehehehe.;D
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its really a small salay, 35squares lang sya, mabibitin ba si yamaha for that area? ubos na yung 9.1 na nasa for sale section natin, if my memory serves me right, ke oreoshake yun. I saw some 8.3 at 4k and 8.4 at 6.5k daw sa FS section natin. malaki ba difference ng 9 series sa 8? kasi parang ok na si 8.3 eh, tower pa.
35 square meters? kaya yan. ang other alternative mo would be going for 8-ohm nominal impedance speakers na mataas ang sensitivity rating (i.e. Klipsch)
when a speaker has a high sensitivity rating, it gets louder with less power. ;D
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i never owned a 9 series so i cant compare i like the 8 series because of how it looks like to be honest :)... btw im the one selling the 8.3 its currently reserved to gunblade ... i have a 8.4 also and i can say those are good speakers for its price.. antay antay ka lang it took me 2 months to complete my 8 sereis na set up
its ok.=) someone in our FS section's selling his 8.4 at 6.5k, medyo mataas pa ang price. pwede na siguro mag 8 series. mag audition ako mamaya sa s&s, inclined to get the yammy.=)
balitaan ko kayo.
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ako nuon isip ko kung mid end receiver gamitin ko or mag budget receiver ako..thinking of saving for other gears (like 2nd hand speakers..etc) and pang settle ng CC bills.
i've decided to go with the budget AVR. nung ma test ko..it seems tama yung decision na ginawa ko.saktong sakto lang yung loudness (feeling ko nga sobra pa). if you're going to buy an expensive receiver and kung di mo rin ma maximize yung power ng amp mo kasi you can't go too loud due to sleeping kids and neighbors parang sayang naman naman yung amp.may potential yung amp pero you won't be able to bring it out.
i don't know baka sa umpisa lang ako satisfied. sana naman nde.hehe.. ;D
kaya the best is to know kung hanggang san mo gagamitin yung amp.mag upgrade ka na lang kung makukulangan ka sa future.pag nakulangan ka..it means you're into this hobby na deeply. so updgrades won't be an issue na kasi normal lang sa hobby na to yon (save and sell your gear na papalitan mo) :)
pero this is just me.so follow your heart.yan ang dapat manaig.
OT:it seems common problem to sa mga married persons.hehehehe.;D
i think what you've just said is very applicable sakin bro, i have the tendency kasi na magsawa. and sa liit lang anamn ng sala, i think the yammy would be good enough.=)
and when i feel the itch to upgrade, then siguro nga pra dito ako sa hobby na to.
thanks!
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i don't know baka sa umpisa lang ako satisfied. sana naman nde.hehe.. ;D
antayin ang upgrade-itis! ;D
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i've already auditioned the yamaha 363, wharfs 9.1 and 9.4
its very obvious na malinis ang tunog ng 9.1, versus 9.4! medyo ang mahal lang talga nung stand ng 9.1, 4k!
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do you think this Tannoy bookshelf will be a good match for the yammy?
Tannoy Fusion 2-way Bookshelf Speaker - Php 6000
Specifications:
● One 1" Nitro-urethane Layer-dampened
Woven Polyester Dome Tweeter, One
6.5" Paper Cone Woofer
● Reflex Design
● Crossover: 4th order acoustic Linkwitz-
Riley, at 2.8 kHz
● Recommended Power: 10-85 Watts RMS
● Peak Power: 120 W
● Sensitivity (2.83 Volts @ 1m): 88 dB
● Impedance: 8 Ohms
● MFR: 48 Hz - 20 kHz ± 3 dB
● Dimensions: 15" H x8" W x 11" D
● Weight: 14.1 Pounds Each, 6.4 kg
● Finish: Dark Oak
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i've already auditioned the yamaha 363, wharfs 9.1 and 9.4
its very obvious na malinis ang tunog ng 9.1, versus 9.4! medyo ang mahal lang talga nung stand ng 9.1, 4k!
Diba 9.4 is just a floorstander version of either the 9.1 or 9.2? It's not supposed to sound worse. How much ang dagdag from 9.1 to 9.4? Kasi kung bibili ka rin ng stands worth 3k to 4k, bilhin mo na yung floorstanders mas maganda pa tignan. :)
do you think this Tannoy bookshelf will be a good match for the yammy
We can't tell unless someone else here has heard a Tannoy-Yamaha combo but in the end the decision is best left to your ears. :)
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i think what you've just said is very applicable sakin bro, i have the tendency kasi na magsawa. and sa liit lang anamn ng sala, i think the yammy would be good enough.=)
and when i feel the itch to upgrade, then siguro nga pra dito ako sa hobby na to.
thanks!
that's exactly what i thought of before venturing into this hobby.self assessment is a must..lalo na sa tulad kong tight ang budget. :)
antayin ang upgrade-itis! ;D
what upgrade??hehe.. ;D
Diba 9.4 is just a floorstander version of either the 9.1 or 9.2? It's not supposed to sound worse. How much ang dagdag from 9.1 to 9.4? Kasi kung bibili ka rin ng stands worth 3k to 4k, bilhin mo na yung floorstanders mas maganda pa tignan. :)
i agree with blued.speaker stands are expensive rin..install mo pa.go for floorstanders na kung mag total din for bookshelf+stands.me, i opted to go for bookshelf type.9.1 to be specific (c/o oreoshake) due to space constraints and it will be to a shelf talaga.so i took it literally. ;D
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haaay, decided na to get the Yamaha, ang problema is yung speaker, bnew whaarf 9.1 ba @ 5k? Preowned wharf crystal @ 7.5k (floorstander), tannoy na nasa FS thread at 6k? b&w DM303 preowned @8k?
sayang na opportunity din kasi si crystal tannoy at si b&w303, si 9.1 is always available.
what do you think guys?
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haaay, decided na to get the Yamaha, ang problema is yung speaker, bnew whaarf 9.1 ba @ 5k? Preowned wharf crystal @ 7.5k (floorstander), tannoy na nasa FS thread at 6k? b&w DM303 preowned @8k?
sayang na opportunity din kasi si crystal tannoy at si b&w303, si 9.1 is always available.
what do you think guys?
try reading more sa ibang threads..almost every yamaha/wharfe combo users are happy.but still it will be very best to hear it.try to audition don sa store na bibilhan mo.yung avr na type mo plus yang choices of speakers mo baka meron don.
ako kasi..wala ako time na mag audition...kaya halos deaf purchase nangyari.nag rely na lagn sa mga patotoo ng mga users dito.hehehe..and okay naman.. ;D
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try reading more sa ibang threads..almost every yamaha/wharfe combo users are happy.but still it will be very best to hear it.try to audition don sa store na bibilhan mo.yung avr na type mo plus yang choices of speakers mo baka meron don.
ako kasi..wala ako time na mag audition...kaya halos deaf purchase nangyari.nag rely na lagn sa mga patotoo ng mga users dito.hehehe..and okay naman.. ;D
same here bro, mukhang ganun mangyayari, i really want the b&w ( bragging right na naka b&w ako ;D), pero ayun sa isang kabigan, luma na masyado yung DM303, and ok daw talga si yamaha wharf, lalo na daw sa crystal na wharf.
hirap naman!
btw, ok ba yung pio dv410? magkano din?
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ayan na, tumataas na ang budget! ;D
dati budget ko 15k, pero nun narinig ko yung gusto ko talagang speaker, grabe tinaas. :-[
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ayan na, tumataas na ang budget! ;D
dati budget ko 15k, pero nun narinig ko yung gusto ko talagang speaker, grabe tinaas. :-[
iraraos ko na lang.=)
b&w DM 303 @8k o wharfe crystal floor satnder at 7.5k?
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iraraos ko na lang.=)
b&w DM 303 @8k o wharfe crystal floor satnder at 7.5k?
banat ng banat!hehe
with 8K at hand.pwede na 5.0 speakers yan para sakin.:)
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iraraos ko na lang.=)
b&w DM 303 @8k o wharfe crystal floor satnder at 7.5k?
May kasamang stands na yung B&W? Kasi kung wala pa, dadagdag ka pa mga 3k.
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May kasamang stands na yung B&W? Kasi kung wala pa, dadagdag ka pa mga 3k.
wala pa bro eh, magkano kaya dapat price nito?
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wala pa bro eh, magkano kaya dapat price nito?
Stands alam ko 2k to 3k a pair eh. As for B&W, don't know anything about the brand except that it's expensive. ;D
Ok na ako sa Infinity. :)
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Stands alam ko 2k to 3k a pair eh. As for B&W, don't know anything about the brand except that it's expensive. ;D
Ok na ako sa Infinity. :)
i've heard good things about b&w aside sa mahal sya, but usually it is being paired with a Denon, pero iba kasi dating pag naka "b&w" ka eh, lalo na sa mga walang alam sa tunog, sa brand lang. ;D
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i've heard good things about b&w aside sa mahal sya, but usually it is being paired with a Denon, pero iba kasi dating pag naka "b&w" ka eh, lalo na sa mga walang alam sa tunog, sa brand lang. ;D
Personally it's still better that you hear how it sounds for yourself. ;D
I auditioned the Wharfedale Diamond 9s, specifically a 9.6 plus 9.CM combo, because of numerous good reviews here on PinoyDVD. But in the end, I didn't find the sound to my liking so I decided to audition the Primus line of Infinity. And there I found the sound that I was looking for.
Didn't go up a notch further to B&W, Monitor Audio, etc. because I wanted to limit my budget. There's no sense in auditioning more expensive brands if you don't have the money to burn on it dahil matatakam ka lang.
Another situation to look at would be expansion, in the future when you decide to get your center and surrounds, you'd more often than not be inclined to keep the same brand for all speakers, unless you're okay with mixing and matching. Ideally the front soundstage should come from the same brand and model line-up in order for timbre-matching to work.
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hi everyone, have finally taken the plunge! Got my yamaha alst night from vic, pio 410 dvd. Then auditioned the Wharfedale Crystal 40, whew! ayus ha!
Got eh crystals na, kakainstall ko pa alng, so far im happy. :D
ang problema, wala pa akong center, rear at sub. tsaka na sila, initially i set my budget to 20k eh ngayon pa lang naka 30k nako :o
thanks a lot for all your inputs!
I will be back to gather your help for the other components. ;)
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hi everyone, have finally taken the plunge! Got my yamaha alst night from vic, pio 410 dvd. Then auditioned the Wharfedale Crystal 40, whew! ayus ha!
Got eh crystals na, kakainstall ko pa alng, so far im happy. :D
ang problema, wala pa akong center, rear at sub. tsaka na sila, initially i set my budget to 20k eh ngayon pa lang naka 30k nako :o
thanks a lot for all your inputs!
I will be back to gather your help for the other components. ;)
Congrats on your purchase. :)
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its really a small salay, 35squares lang sya, mabibitin ba si yamaha for that area? ubos na yung 9.1 na nasa for sale section natin, if my memory serves me right, ke oreoshake yun. I saw some 8.3 at 4k and 8.4 at 6.5k daw sa FS section natin. malaki ba difference ng 9 series sa 8? kasi parang ok na si 8.3 eh, tower pa.
35sq.m. (5mx7m)... malaki yun!...may ht room is only 16.25sq.m. (3.25mx5m) nabitin pako sa yammy 659 ko kya nag add pako ng power amp... w/out power amp ave. listening vol.level ko is btween -10-14db (depende sa dvd) so naisip ko na medyo "hirap" yung receiver (few more clicks sa vol control eh mag auto shut-off na sya) that's the time na nag add nako ng power amp! ngayon? sulit @ -25db vol level ayos na! hindi pa nagiinit receiver ko... better look for more "RMS power" sa receiver yammy man yan or onkyo/hk/denon/etc... in the end mas makaktaipid ka! ang of course maliligayahan ka! ;D... opinyon ko lang po.
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35sq.m. (5mx7m)... malaki yun!...may ht room is only 16.25sq.m. (3.25mx5m) nabitin pako sa yammy 659 ko kya nag add pako ng power amp... w/out power amp ave. listening vol.level ko is btween -10-14db (depende sa dvd) so naisip ko na medyo "hirap" yung receiver (few more clicks sa vol control eh mag auto shut-off na sya) that's the time na nag add nako ng power amp! ngayon? sulit @ -25db vol level ayos na! hindi pa nagiinit receiver ko... better look for more "RMS power" sa receiver yammy man yan or onkyo/hk/denon/etc... in the end mas makaktaipid ka! ang of course maliligayahan ka! ;D... opinyon ko lang po.
-10dB to -14dB is really loud. Personally I was never able to crank up my previous RX-V430 to even -25dB. I would guess it all depends upon your listening habits (and your speakers' nominal impedance and sensitivity also), you have a dedicated HT room so you can crank the sounds all the way up.
Baka ma-B.I. mo si anchit, dahan dahan lang. ;D
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haha yeah 35 sq yung sala, thats the entire size, nasa gitna naman yung sofa kaya parang kalahati lang ( hirap iexplain ;D).
anyway, so far ok naman, hindi ko pa alam kalikutin si yammy. ipon ipon na lang muna for the center,rear at sub.=)
salamat!
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Hi guys, i have a onkyo tx-s5605 and i paired it with polk audio tsi series. Do you think its match made in heaven? I use it more on movies about 70/30%. Any inputs highly appreciated.
Thanks guys!
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Hi guys, i have a onkyo tx-s5605 and i paired it with polk audio tsi series. Do you think its match made in heaven? I use it more on movies about 70/30%. Any inputs highly appreciated.
Thanks guys!
Thats an excellent match, I have heard the Polkaudio TSI series, they have solid bass and crisp highs. I could not detect any flaws in the highs, mids or lows. I am sure that you must have gotten a good deal as the Polkaudio TSI series are quite affordable. These speakers must sound amazing with the Onkyo
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what is the most affordable HD receiver in the market today?
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Mga sirs,
We plan to put up a decent HT set-up (separates) that is good for audio and video and will fit the P60-80K budget. It will be for my father-in-law's use and will be set up in the master's bedroom about 40-45sqm. in size. Main use will be: listening to music and occasionally for watching movies.
We'll pair it with any of the ff. AV receivers:
- Onkyo
- Harman Kardon
- Denon
- Yamaha
- Pioneer
Need your expert inputs and advice mga sirs, as I'm really not that well-versed with these things... :)
What do you think is the best set up for this, guys? TIA ;D
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;D Bump lang po ;D
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Mga sirs,
We plan to put up a decent HT set-up (separates) that is good for audio and video and will fit the P60-80K budget. It will be for my father-in-law's use and will be set up in the master's bedroom about 40-45sqm. in size. Main use will be: listening to music and occasionally for watching movies.
We'll pair it with any of the ff. AV receivers:
- Onkyo
- Harman Kardon
- Denon
- Yamaha
- Pioneer
Need your expert inputs and advice mga sirs, as I'm really not that well-versed with these things... :)
What do you think is the best set up for this, guys? TIA ;D
sir are you sure it is 40-45sqm na bedroom?that is a very big room :o..to fill that room kelangan mo na ng extra amplifier ;D
you will not go wrong in the receivers you listed..set na lang a budget for the receiver para ma bracket mo sila..then choose according the functions you will use..and after that pili na ng speakers that will match the receiver well..
with that budget..gandang HT na yan sir..goodluck
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80k for 5.1 speakers and a receiver? wharfdales pwede na. read the old posts here for more details. paulit ulit lang naman ang suggestions e
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sir are you sure it is 40-45sqm na bedroom?that is a very big room :o..to fill that room kelangan mo na ng extra amplifier ;D
you will not go wrong in the receivers you listed..set na lang a budget for the receiver para ma bracket mo sila..then choose according the functions you will use..and after that pili na ng speakers that will match the receiver well..
with that budget..gandang HT na yan sir..goodluck
ok thank you sir.. :)
80k for 5.1 speakers and a receiver? wharfdales pwede na. read the old posts here for more details. paulit ulit lang naman ang suggestions e
yes. ok salamat.. :)
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Sir,
can you please suggest a/v receiver. which is better yamaha rx-v863 or denon 2309? my budget is around 30k to 50k. im more on ht. my speaker MA RS6, RSLCR ,RSW12 and BRFX. receiver h/k 347. thank you
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Hi!
Hope you can help me with my problem..i want to upgrade my Parents room..
Currently has:
32" Bravia LCD
Sony DAV-DZ150k [5.1] Dvd Player [Bundle sa TV]....No Optical for audio[x_x]
Will Buy:
WD TV Media Player
Question = Since walang Optical ung Sound System na bundle sa Bravia...ang choice ko na lang ba eh to listen to the LCD TV while watching HD Movies??
or is there an item which will let me utilize the 5.1 sound system that it came with?? [Medyo cheap lang sana]
Thanks!!
OR is there a very Cheap AV Receiver with Optical Input that i can add on to my parents room.
Thanks again!
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I have a question. Is a straight setup better than a mixed setup? like for example, all Polk speakers compared to Polk floorstanders, Mission centers and rear/surround and Klipsch for subs?
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well not always sir..
the most important thing to consider on a straight brand model setup is the fronts and center..rears pwede kahit iba..especially the sub..any brand of sub will do
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well not always sir..
the most important thing to consider on a straight brand model setup is the fronts and center..rears pwede kahit iba..especially the sub..any brand of sub will do
+1
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well not always sir..
the most important thing to consider on a straight brand model setup is the fronts and center..rears pwede kahit iba..especially the sub..any brand of sub will do
aha, just as what I have thought. thanks so much for answering my inquiry. :)
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hello mga kapatid,
just got ONKYO TX-SR607 receiver kanina. grabe parang nagkaroon ako ng bagong impression sa luma kong DTX bookshelf. gumanda ang tunog dahil sa onkyo hehehe, nagkaroon sya ng dimension na hindi ko na-experience using my old integrated amplifier. so now, since bago receiver ko, naks, the logical move is to eye for a set of speakers - fronts muna (bs or fs). ano po bang bagay na speakers for onkyo. low budget lang, 12-15k for brand new, < 10k pre-owned (best buy). i'm using it sa sala, mga 12sqm lang siguro yun.
salamat po. god bless!
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ano kaya ang match up ng b&w 684 with the onkyo tx-sr807 ?
ano ba dapat na speaker cable dito especially if you will be using turntable someday ?
many thanks to all
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ano kaya ang match up ng b&w 684 with the onkyo tx-sr807 ?
ano ba dapat na speaker cable dito especially if you will be using turntable someday ?
many thanks to all
bump lang mga kapatid
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mga sirs, have 3 year old Vixual 5.1 HTIB and the amplifier built on the woofer box went dead. Is there a way that i can still use its speakers? Is there any low output amplifer (5x15w) within budget of 1.5k? Salamat
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Mga sirs. Meron na ako SARS. sobra talaga! :o May plan ako mg build yung 1st dedicated HT sa condo namin. Sa research ko sa lahat nang threads, meron ako choices:
Floorstander & Center: Polk Audio tsi400 & cs20
Subwoofer: PB10nsd
Surrounds: JBL Balcony (Cinema Four)
Receiver: HK 160 AVR
Ok ba itong combo? May advice sa akin to invest in HK 2 or 3 series din instead of HK 160 AVR.
Meron advice mga sirs para sa newbie HT enthusiast. 95% movies - 5% music.
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Mga sirs. Meron na ako SARS. sobra talaga! :o May plan ako mg build yung 1st dedicated HT sa condo namin. Sa research ko sa lahat nang threads, meron ako choices:
Floorstander & Center: Polk Audio tsi400 & cs20
Subwoofer: PB10nsd Surrounds: JBL Balcony (Cinema Four)
Receiver: HK 160 AVR
Ok ba itong combo? May advice sa akin to invest in HK 2 or 3 series din instead of HK 160 AVR.
Meron advice mga sirs para sa newbie HT enthusiast. 95% movies - 5% music.
hands down, whatever combination you end up with on the receiver and speakers, the SVS will surely make it stand out ;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)
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hey mga bros
im new here and kaka register ko lang.
since im addicted to a movie
im planning to buy muna a reciever budget ko 30k
any advice po 7.1 channel.
n d ko kasi alam mga model
ang alam ko lang yung mga brand.
PIONEER
YAMAHA
ONKYO
DENON
need your help talaga.
kaka addicted na kasi i want to feel the movie experience. :P
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hello,
i humbly ask the gurus here at pinoydvd for help on setting up my first system,
this will be yet another recommend me at this budget kind of post so please bear with me.
im planning to setup my first system,
it will be for a small bedroom (3m x 3m)
at this point I'm willing to spend around
20k budget
for the AVR and a pair of speakers (+cables)
might stretch a little bit if i find something i really like.
source: NextBase DVD Player NB-658 (for now)
it will be used 70% for music and 30% for movies
In my opinion i listen to a wide range of music
from JAZZ to METAL and everything in between.
also, i like my music to be warm and not fatiguing, with as much detail as possible.
to put things in perspective, I've got a sennheiser px100 for portable use.
and to me, the sound is great, but still needs a little bit of treble.
It would also be a great help if i find something iPod compatible at my budget,
a nifty feature but not a necessity, as i can later on just add an ipod dock.
Also please recommend some shops that are accommodating to NEWBIES like me.
as I am still a little anxious at entering HT Shops that sell very expensive equipment.
Thank you so much for future replies and I am looking forward to reading your recommendations.
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3m x 3m is really small.
A AVR setup would be impractical given that you still need to fit a bed in there.
Given those constraints, I would go for a HTIB with satellites you can mount on walls freeing up the floor as much as possible for other creature comforts and still be able to actually walk around the room and not clamber over a bed to reach the other side.
A soundbar would also be a good idea pero the prices here are still ridiculous IMHO.
I'd take a look at some of the good deals here for LG/Samsung HTIBs. You can audition them sa malls and showrooms (bring your ipod to test your content) and source them here.
Even though I have a full HT setup, I'd like to get a HTIB for my small bedroom as well but I am waiting for models that have bluray drives in them and be reasonably priced.
You can also consider a PS3 with a 2.1 speaker system as well. You can dump your content in it. Have a reasonably future proof setup and have a snazzy media center/game console in a single unit.
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@scifi-fan
thank you so much for the reply,
well i have considered an HTiB kind of system before but however,
im kind of set on getting seperates(2.0,2.1) as i am planning on moving to
my own flat in the near future, and also im looking into getting my
first entry drug to this hobby, im kind of the person that likes to customize
things to my liking, and i think HTiB's (correct me if im wrong) will limit the
amount of customization i can do. thats why im hesitant on getting HTiB's.
I can also opt to put my future system in the living room which is about 40 sqm
however, im just not a "living room" kind of person.. =)
the ps3 is a great idea and i am actually planning on getting one, thats why my budget is limited.
whats a soundbar? hehe sorry, im really new at this.
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i don't know if this has been discussed before so please pardon me ;D
I recently got a floorstander and receiver. Of course I want to complete my 5.1 setup. I know surrounds can come later but between sub and center speaker, which one should I get first?
Fronts: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6
Receiver: Denon 1911
Thanks in advance!
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Since your towers can handle lows for the meantime, I'd go with a center first.
The center image quicky shifts as you move off-center, if you're using just the left and right speakers.
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Since your towers can handle lows for the meantime, I'd go with a center first.
The center image quicky shifts as you move off-center, if you're using just the left and right speakers.
wow super fast response ;D thanks Stagea!!
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Question, how do you position SR speakers? Like say for example i plan on getting wharfedale's 10SR.
At te sides(of your ears)? Or at your baCk?
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Question, how do you position SR speakers? Like say for example i plan on getting wharfedale's 10SR.
At te sides(of your ears)? Or at your baCk?
i think this diagram is the most ideal for 5.1 speaker placement, but if speaker stands can't be deployed for the proper angle.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/4947336472_3e9009c400.jpg)
this configuration is also acceptable, and as you can see, it is place on the side wall.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4078/4947336502_e706e31e0c.jpg)
for 7.1 configuration, the back would now be utilized for full envelopment of sound.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4134/4947336532_18ed96e059.jpg)
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Thanks for the detailed post bro iinas.
:)
Edit: AboVe ear leVel ba kailangan?
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need help how to set up proper wiring installation for my 5.1 speakers (Next Base HM-058 with DVD Player NB 895)
d ko po mapalabas ang sound sa laht ng spakers eh!!!
tnx in advance.
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Thanks for the detailed post bro iinas.
:)
Edit: AboVe ear leVel ba kailangan?
ideally mga 3ft from your ears.
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3ft above ears? :)
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3ft above ears? :)
yes, 3 ft above your ears when you are sitting on your sweet spot.
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ok lang po b kung medyo mataas sa 3 feet?
Thanks!
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hi bros. im new here. Need your comments. Maganda ba match up yamaha av receiver with polk audio (LSI) bookshelf speakers? i plan to upgrade later with all polk audio speakers. tight budget pa. thanks
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hi bros. im new here. Need your comments. Maganda ba match up yamaha av receiver with polk audio (LSI) bookshelf speakers? i plan to upgrade later with all polk audio speakers. tight budget pa. thanks
Di ko pa narinig together, but I think they'd match well. Just make sure that you get a Yamaha that can provide enough juice for these lovely speakers (especially for bigger rooms). :)
RX-V2065 or higher should be able to power these well. :)
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Ok po ba yung Pioneer VSX-520-k(15k) and Jamo S 606(19k) combination, kailangan pa ba ng sub? Tnx for the help.
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Ok po ba yung Pioneer VSX-520-k(15k) and Jamo S 606(19k) combination, kailangan pa ba ng sub? Tnx for the help.
Those are good speakers, but a sub would still handle low frequencies better. It's best to get a sub with your planned system.
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Good Morning Sir/s, hope you find the time to entertain this noob here :).
I would just like to know your inputs/advice as I am considering to purchase/use an Altec Lansing VS4121 or Altec Octane7 for a basic 2.1 speaker set-up to go with my pioneer dvd player-LG Plasma set-up.
I understand that originally these are PC/Laptop/MP speakers by nature but I'm currently on a budget and considering I only plan to put them in a small-medium sized room, I figure I won't need anything too powerful naman to fill it up with sound while watching movies.
I also know of Altec's MX and Expressionist lines which could have been more suitable for my intended use but sadly stocks here are very hard to come by plus they cost twice as much than the VS and Octane7 series. Has anyone tried using their VS or Octane7s with their DVD Players? Will there be any negative effects on the dvd-tv set-up in the long run? ???
Currently, I tried plugging my Creative 2.1 desktop speakers/Sub to my dvd player (via 3.5-RCA conversion cables) while my dvd's hdmi is plugged to the tv. Tried running tokyo drift's race scenes and no problems so far.
Would the experts advice against this kind of set-up? ??? What are the cons of this set-up po?
Hoping to get your inputs and suggestions mga Sir/s before I go out and purchase the VS or Octane7s. ;D
Thanks in advance. ;D
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Hello mga sir,
Ano po kaya ang magandang speaker na 5.1 para sa VSX-820K Pioner AV receiver? Plan ko kasi bumili ng receiver na ito.
ANg budget ko po ay 15K for speakers. Kaya na po kaya yan?
TIA.
Tumitingin na din ako sa mga previous post pero nalulunod ako sa mga brand and models. Hehe! Newbie pa talaga sa Home Theater. TY.
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guys plan ko sana mag setup ng home theater sa room ko. currently i have a ps3, 5 speakers wala pang sub. balak ko sana bumili ng receiver any suggestions? budget is 20k
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Pm Mr. Kelly Fonacier,also known as electrohaus_lp. He's got a t of cheap AV receivers. I recently purchased Onkyo TX-SR605.
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Hello guys, im new here and to this hobby. I hope you could help me with my first setup on a home theater system. Total budget ko is 60k, hehe! Medyo starting pa lang kasi sa work.
So here's my self-researched setup:
HDTV: Samsung 40c530
Receiver: Pioneer VSX920k
Speaker system: Jamo a102hcs 5 (http://www.jamo.com/eu-en/products/a-102-hcs-5-description/)
Entry level setup lang talaga balak ko since maliit lang budget ko :). Actually the first setup i had in mind for the sound system was a Denon HTIB DHT391XP or the Onkyo hts3300. Kaso may feedbacks ako nabasa na may problems sa hts3300 like overheating and sound drops. Sa Denon 391 naman, i read that the surround is not that good although the receiver will perform well.
Any comment and suggestion will be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance pinoydvd =)
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Hi sir, I'm not an expert here, but I am using the jamo speaker sub setup. I currently have it connected to an HK245.so far I really like its combination. Its been years na, since we have a really small room, its serving its purpose really well. You might want to audition these speakers with the receiver you're planning to get para you can decide from what you hear. Goodluck! :)
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@ r_Y_@_n
Thank you for the input sir. I had them auditioned yesterday and it sounds good to me. Although i still need to test the jamo with other receiver. Hopefully the jamo a102hcs will still be available after some months. Ipon mode na rin muna =)
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@ r_Y_@_n
Thank you for the input sir. I had them auditioned yesterday and it sounds good to me. Although i still need to test the jamo with other receiver. Hopefully the jamo a102hcs will still be available after some months. Ipon mode na rin muna =)
Aside from the Jamo a102hcs, you can also try to audition the Yamaha 285 5.1 speaker set for comparison. The set is around Php9k I think with option for 0% interest installment.
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any bang for the buck AVR on sale now? aside s ONKYO 606 14K
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Yamaha:
RXV467 P21K
RXV567 P26K
Pioneer:
VSX520K P14500.
VSX820K P21600.
VSX920K P27K
Onkyo:
TXSR308 P17500.
TXNR509 P24K
anu po kya maganda dyan? ang plan ko po kc bibili muna aq ng L/R front speaker anu po masusugest nyo?
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Yamaha:
RXV467 P21K
RXV567 P26K
Pioneer:
VSX520K P14500.
VSX820K P21600.
VSX920K P27K
Onkyo:
TXSR308 P17500.
TXNR509 P24K
anu po kya maganda dyan? ang plan ko po kc bibili muna aq ng L/R front speaker anu po masusugest nyo?
For me:
Power - TX-NR509
Features - VSX-920-K
Refinement - RX-V567
Kung 5.1 setup lang naman and kung medyo malakas ka magpatugtog, baka pinaka sulit yung TX-NR509. Mas beefy kasi yung amp section nya kesa sa other AVRs sa list.
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nkapili na po ako ung pioneer vsx-520 n lng pra mura. ipod features lng nmn pala lamang ng vsx820k anu pong speaker ang marerecommend nyo ung piece by piece pra d mabigat sa bulsa
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nkapili na po ako ung pioneer vsx-520 n lng pra mura. ipod features lng nmn pala lamang ng vsx820k anu pong speaker ang marerecommend nyo ung piece by piece pra d mabigat sa bulsa
budget sir? pero much better mag-audition ka muna ng speakers so you'll know what your listening preference is.
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nkapili na po ako ung pioneer vsx-520 n lng pra mura. ipod features lng nmn pala lamang ng vsx820k anu pong speaker ang marerecommend nyo ung piece by piece pra d mabigat sa bulsa
Aside from iPod/iPhone features, may MCACC siya and binding post yung lahat ng 5 pairs of speaker terminals.
I agree with Sientobente, pakinggan mo na lang to see which speakers ang gusto ng pandinig mo. Bring your AVR with you para maikabit mo sila together.
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good day,
i'm new to this forum, and i'm slowly browsing this thread and the other one (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,6070.660.html).
anyway, sumali ako dahil nag-iisp na akong mag-upgrade ng HT set-up.
sa ngayon ito yung set-up ko:
JBL SCS10
US Audio US510
JVC RX552-V
Pioneer DV610AV
XBOX1
iPod Dock and iPod classic 120GB
stock wires ng JBL SCS10.
namana ko lang kasi yung JVC a couple of years back, so napabili ako ng speakers, and then last year yung pioneer dvd player, since nasira yung luma ko. pero recently parang nangangati na ako mag-upgrade.
plans ko (long term plan maybe within 5months)
good audio video receiver na may at least 3 digital in (2 optical, 1 coax)
WDTV (ganito gamit ng brother ko, and mukhang ok naman) (HDMI to lcdtv, optical to av receiver)
new set of speakers (?) kailangan ko na kaya?
additional front speakers for stereo use
sa ngayon, ang naiisip na kailangan ko for my AVR is may 2 pair output for front channel A/B, one for my 5.1 set-up and one for the stereo set-up, of course at least DTS capable and 2 optical in (1 wdtv, 1 standby probably bluray in the future) and 1 coax (from dvd player), di ko naman siguro kailangan ng hdmi capabilities.
my room is about 25-30 sqm.
given those stuff, here are my questions:
1. what's a good AV Receiver for me
2. should i upgrade my JBL SCS10? if yes, ano ang ok for HT use?
3. since maglalagay din ako ng stereo set-up for audio/cd and maybe iPod, ano ok na stereo speakers? dad said Kef, kahit yung low end lang nila. may mabibilhan pa ba ako nun dito?
yun lang, i'll go back to reading. thanks!
p.s. i guess i have to upgrade to something na gumagamit ng banana plugs ngayon at sumali na ako rito. hahahaha. :)
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good day,
i'm new to this forum, and i'm slowly browsing this thread and the other one (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,6070.660.html).
anyway, sumali ako dahil nag-iisp na akong mag-upgrade ng HT set-up.
sa ngayon ito yung set-up ko:
JBL SCS10
US Audio US510
JVC RX552-V
Pioneer DV610AV
XBOX1
iPod Dock and iPod classic 120GB
stock wires ng JBL SCS10.
namana ko lang kasi yung JVC a couple of years back, so napabili ako ng speakers, and then last year yung pioneer dvd player, since nasira yung luma ko. pero recently parang nangangati na ako mag-upgrade.
plans ko (long term plan maybe within 5months)
good audio video receiver na may at least 3 digital in (2 optical, 1 coax)
WDTV (ganito gamit ng brother ko, and mukhang ok naman) (HDMI to lcdtv, optical to av receiver)
new set of speakers (?) kailangan ko na kaya?
additional front speakers for stereo use
sa ngayon, ang naiisip na kailangan ko for my AVR is may 2 pair output for front channel A/B, one for my 5.1 set-up and one for the stereo set-up, of course at least DTS capable and 2 optical in (1 wdtv, 1 standby probably bluray in the future) and 1 coax (from dvd player), di ko naman siguro kailangan ng hdmi capabilities.
my room is about 25-30 sqm.
given those stuff, here are my questions:
1. what's a good AV Receiver for me
2. should i upgrade my JBL SCS10? if yes, ano ang ok for HT use?
3. since maglalagay din ako ng stereo set-up for audio/cd and maybe iPod, ano ok na stereo speakers? dad said Kef, kahit yung low end lang nila. may mabibilhan pa ba ako nun dito?
yun lang, i'll go back to reading. thanks!
p.s. i guess i have to upgrade to something na gumagamit ng banana plugs ngayon at sumali na ako rito. hahahaha. :)
Everything depends on you budget sir, let us know how much is your maximum spending limit so that we can suggest... :)
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Everything depends on you budget sir, let us know how much is your maximum spending limit so that we can suggest... :)
ahhh, tama.
i'm targeting to save about 10k per month, so total after 5 months is 50k.
Thanks Courage. :)
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ahhh, tama.
i'm targeting to save about 10k per month, so total after 5 months is 50k.
Thanks Courage. :)
No problem. Dito sa hobby na to kelangan may patience or else mapapabili ka agad then after a few upgrade ka na naman kasi di pala yun ang gusto mo..
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@Dom_08
Welcome Bro sa PinoyDVD and hope you're enjoying the hobby. Advisable din to try to keep on auditioning and listening to various types of Receiver-speaker combo and from there, you get to know and find out what you're looking for in terms of sound quality and features. Correct din ang input ni Courage on being patient and taking it step by step. In upgrading, you can start muna having 2 front speakers with 2 channel stereo then you can add speakers later for 5.1 or 7.1 channel. Sa mga receivers, all of these brands are very good names like Harman Kardon, Onkyo, Yamaha, Marantz, Denon, Pioneer. It's just your personal preference and the kind of features you need that can help you decide. Depende din sa requirements mo if you listen mostly to music or movies.
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@Dom_08
You should be prioritizing HDMI connections instead of optical and coax though most HDMI capable receivers still have the optical and coax option. Both video and audio (including HD audio) are transmitted by HDMI connection.
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ahhh, tama.
i'm targeting to save about 10k per month, so total after 5 months is 50k.
Thanks Courage. :)
With 50k can get you a can get a great mid range AV receiver. I think at this price point this is where receiver come to there own.
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No problem. Dito sa hobby na to kelangan may patience or else mapapabili ka agad then after a few upgrade ka na naman kasi di pala yun ang gusto mo..
noted. actually parang sa computers din pala no? (although i'm hoping mas mabagal ang upgrade cycle, tama ba? hehehe)
@Dom_08
Welcome Bro sa PinoyDVD and hope you're enjoying the hobby. Advisable din to try to keep on auditioning and listening to various types of Receiver-speaker combo and from there, you get to know and find out what you're looking for in terms of sound quality and features. Correct din ang input ni Courage on being patient and taking it step by step. In upgrading, you can start muna having 2 front speakers with 2 channel stereo then you can add speakers later for 5.1 or 7.1 channel. Sa mga receivers, all of these brands are very good names like Harman Kardon, Onkyo, Yamaha, Marantz, Denon, Pioneer. It's just your personal preference and the kind of features you need that can help you decide. Depende din sa requirements mo if you listen mostly to music or movies.
thanks for the welcome sir. :)
as for auditioning I usually go to Mega Mall, Listening Room. I'm from Antipolo so transpo is an issue (although main reason is i don't know where to go, LOL), so far I liked one of their older models, the Kef K-140, but i bought that for my dad (wish I kept it for myself though).
Last time I visited, they offered me a similar product (forgot the name though), but they said that it's more of a music speaker rather than a HT speaker. What's the difference (sorry i'm going OT)? that's where I got the idea of my plan to have a 5.1 speaker system and then a 2 channel 'music' speaker with a matching amp for A/B front speakers.
Given what I have already, is this a good upgrade path?
1 receiver
2 LR, C (i've read that kahit huli na iupgrade yung surround, ok lang)
3 Surround
4 HD player (probably HDD based first, then eventually BluRay or equivalent) (currently, my collection is still DVD and starting to build a collection on HD Videos, hopefully i could shift to BluRay soon).
@Dom_08
You should be prioritizing HDMI connections instead of optical and coax though most HDMI capable receivers still have the optical and coax option. Both video and audio (including HD audio) are transmitted by HDMI connection.
noted! actually, for some strange reason i had the impression that HDMI carries analog signal, until i've read about DTS HD Master other audio formats via HDMI. thanks! :)
i was thinking that i might save some money on older (non-HDMI) receivers whilst having digital audio via optical cable. but then the newer formats are HDMI only.
With 50k can get you a can get a great mid range AV receiver. I think at this price point this is where receiver come to there own.
whole 50k for the AV Receiver?
i think i should save up for some more. hahahaha.
mukhang masama to ah, parang willing ako magspend ng mas marami sa 50k. HAHAHAH
also
found these on the net as for my initial searching for receivers:
Pioneer VSX 820 http://pioneer.ph/ProductDetail/default.asp?ProductId=1052&CatId=64,9,17
Yamaha RX-V 471 http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v471_black__u/?mode=model#tag1709
on paper (at least the ones that i understand) they look ok are these good for someone who is upgrading or looking for something that will hopefully last maybe 5 years (at least in the sense that i won't feel the need to upgrade soon).
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Last time I visited, they offered me a similar product (forgot the name though), but they said that it's more of a music speaker rather than a HT speaker. What's the difference (sorry i'm going OT)? that's where I got the idea of my plan to have a 5.1 speaker system and then a 2 channel 'music' speaker with a matching amp for A/B front speakers.
For speakers, try to get the ones that are good for both movies/music and when you audition them, play both movies and music sounds. Note that American brand speakers ( Polk Audio, JBL, Infinity ) are very "forward" sounding while European speakers ( Wharfedale, Jamo, B&W ) are "Laidback" sounding.
Given what I have already, is this a good upgrade path?
1 receiver
2 LR, C (i've read that kahit huli na iupgrade yung surround, ok lang)
3 Surround
4 HD player (probably HDD based first, then eventually BluRay or equivalent) (currently, my collection is still DVD and starting to build a collection on HD Videos, hopefully i could shift to BluRay soon).
noted! actually, for some strange reason i had the impression that HDMI carries analog signal, until i've read about DTS HD Master other audio formats via HDMI. thanks! :)
Ok naman upgrade path mo. Take note the front speakers and center need to be of the same brands and they form the important part of your system so choose the sound that you're happy with.
also
found these on the net as for my initial searching for receivers:
Pioneer VSX 820 http://pioneer.ph/ProductDetail/default.asp?ProductId=1052&CatId=64,9,17
Yamaha RX-V 471 http://usa.yamaha.com/products/audio-visual/av-receivers-amps/rx/rx-v471_black__u/?mode=model#tag1709
on paper (at least the ones that i understand) they look ok are these good for someone who is upgrading or looking for something that will hopefully last maybe 5 years (at least in the sense that i won't feel the need to upgrade soon).
Yung Yamaha RX471 I think it's not available here locally, they only have the RX467 which is already 3D ready. Minsan the models listed in sites may or may not be available here depende sa local distributor. Maganda yan practice mo that you research and keep on checking the internet for more infos.
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Thanks @cosmic79
Ill try to look for more speakers and receivers for audition. I have a feeling that ill be increasing my budget and time to complete my project. Hahahaha. my first goal is to have digital connections from my player to receiver to the tv; optical, coaxial or hdmi.
Ganun ba kalaki advantage ng HDMI, sound quality wise?
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Thanks @cosmic79
Ill try to look for more speakers and receivers for audition. I have a feeling that ill be increasing my budget and time to complete my project. Hahahaha. my first goal is to have digital connections from my player to receiver to the tv; optical, coaxial or hdmi.
Ganun ba kalaki advantage ng HDMI, sound quality wise?
Hi Sir Dom_08, oo ang advantage ng HDMI ay clearer picture and better sound. Sa picture, even yung mga pimples sa face kitang kita, very detailed.
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@Sir Dom,
Welcome po sa hobby na magastos.. ;D By the way you can also check SnS at Shangrila and 5th Ave there. They also carry different brand of speakers. Feel free to audition different brands then select which better according to your listening preferences.
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mga brader quick question pag ang speakers are rated 100w ilang watts ang recommended rating ng amp?
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mga brader quick question pag ang speakers are rated 100w ilang watts ang recommended rating ng amp?
Ang pagka alam ko ang amp rating should be lower than the maximum speaker rating. Pag mas higher ang amp rating, ma-stress out ang speakers. I read this in a website dati but I could not recall the URL.
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does it mean na using a power amp is overkill for the speaker?
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those it mean na using a power amp is overkill for the speaker?
It will depend on the speaker, room size, etc.
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so using a 75w per ch amp on a 100w rated speaker is ok?
but using 200w power amp on a 100w rated speaker is overkill?
higher wattage amp good for the speaker or it will shorten its life?
pasensya na i think i still dont get it
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so using a 75w per ch amp on a 100w rated speaker is ok?
but using 200w power amp on a 100w rated speaker is overkill?
higher wattage amp good for the speaker or it will shorten its life?
pasensya na i think i still dont get it
Either setup will work fine, as long as you don't exceed the limits of the amp or the speaker.
It will depend on the speaker, room size, etc.
I agree 100%. :)
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Just sharing this link about amp and speaker wattage:
http://www.satcure-focus.com/icetech/page2.htm
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Just sharing this link about amp and speaker wattage:
http://www.satcure-focus.com/icetech/page2.htm
Many may not agree with a lot of information in this site (myself included), especially regarding the wattage and efficiency portion and the output impedance post.
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Yamaha:
RXV467 P21K
RXV567 P26K
Pioneer:
VSX520K P14500.
VSX820K P21600.
VSX920K P27K
Onkyo:
TXSR308 P17500.
TXNR509 P24K
anu po kya maganda dyan? ang plan ko po kc bibili muna aq ng L/R front speaker anu po masusugest nyo?
Bro what shop are these available?
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Updated pricing.
Infinity Primus
Primus 152 - 9.5k (4 pairs left)
Primus 162 - 12.5k (3 pairs left)
Primus 252 - 18.5k (1 pair left)
Pc250 - 8k (4 pcs left)
Ps210 sub - 17.5k (3 units left)
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/primus_p5-1.jpg)
Monitor Audio
BRONZE BX SERIES
BX1 - 11.2K
BX2 - 14.8K
BX5 - 29.5K
BX6 - 39.5K
BX Centre - 9.5k
BXFX - 15K
BXW10 - 25K
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/4815915470_d5efb80a15.jpg)
SILVER RX SERIES
RX1 - 25.5K
RX2 - 31.5K
RX6 - 47.5K
RX8 - 63.5K
RX CENTER - 19K
RXFX - 31K
RXW12 - 48K
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/Monitor-Audio-RX-51-Home-Theater-Package.jpg)
KLIPSCH REFERENCE
RB10 - 10.5K
RB51 - 12.5K
RB61 - 16K
RC10 - 7.5K
RC52 - 11K
RC62 - 15K
RF10 - 19.5K
RF52 - 26K
RF62 - 30K
RF63 - 70K
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/klipschrefernce.jpg)
JBL VENUE
voice
stage
balcony
sub 12
package price of 64k
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/jblvenue.jpg)
JBL NORTHRIDGE
es10
es25c
es80
es250p
package price of 87k
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/jblnorthridgees.jpg)
send me a pm if you're interested to audition. :)
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finally may update na yung set-up ko. hahahah
I got what I originally planned, a good receiver with option for a 2nd set of fronts and digital inputs
here's my current set-up:
HK AVR 635
JBL SCS10 Satellites
Celestion 9 (2nd pair of fronts, used with iPod w/dock or CD player)
Pioneer DV-610AV
and as a temporary main fronts: JBL Control One
from time to time I borrow the WDTV in the other room.
i do howerver want to get the following:
my own media player (something that can play hd movies, flacs/raw with multichannel support and 192khz/24bit support for audio-only files) (or maybe a low-power HTPC with a good sound card?)
a dedicated CD player
maybe a dedicated integrated/T-amp/tube amplifier for my Celestions.
but i think my priority will be upgrading my speakers. The Control One seems to compliment my Celestions for audio use, but I think I want something that has more range, I find Control1 flat so it will go to my editing rig once I get a new set of fronts.
I also bought a B&W center speaker for my dad (DM600 IFS) which I think is a good starting point to look for my own system. The thing with the B&W is that it has good presence voice is really clear, not as clear as the Celestion though.
Do you guys have any suggestions for my fronts and center? I've tried Wharfedale and parang kulang eh. Should I just go B&W *gulp* all the way (ouch. hahaha. gastos nun).
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It would highly depend on how much are you willing to spend. If you have the means, then go for B&W. ;) Just make sure your amp is capable of driving the speakers or you'll end up buying either a new AVR or a pair of power amps and a mono amp to drive your center and fronts.
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@Dom_08
Best to bring your AVReceiver during the audition sa store para sure ka sa sound compatibility. Yung Fronts and center speakers are the most important part so you need to choose and decide carefully. Try to also audition Infinity or Monitor Audio if you're on a tight budget.
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It would highly depend on how much are you willing to spend. If you have the means, then go for B&W. ;) Just make sure your amp is capable of driving the speakers or you'll end up buying either a new AVR or a pair of power amps and a mono amp to drive your center and fronts.
that's true. i re-read my Harman Kardon can only deliver 75W per channel on full 7.1 set-up. That's about half of the rating of the speaker i'm aiming for fronts (684, 150W). anyway, the plan is (well, was my plan) that I get CM62 and 686 first for my fronts, and then get a 684 eventually. Testing testing I guess.
I just wanted B&W because it I like how it sounds on my dad's system. although i'd still go around and test some more as @cosmic79, the word "tight budget" is the keyword. HAHAHAHA
But i'm willing to wait some more so i can save and get the ideal speakers.
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But i'm willing to wait some more so i can save and get the ideal speakers.
And ideal AV/R perhaps? ;D
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And ideal AV/R perhaps? ;D
that also. HAHAHAH! but i think I can hold on to this old and heavy receiver longer than my current speakers. hahahaha
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that also. HAHAHAH! but i think I can hold on to this old and heavy receiver longer than my current speakers. hahahaha
Before I had to carry and hold on to my Harman Kardon a block away and napasma ang kamay ko sa super bigat. But it's true speakers are heavier ( pati sa budget ) ;D
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Hi mga sirs, nagsawa na kasi ako sa TV speakers for watching my blu-ray collection & pati yung mga 1080p movies sa NMT ko. I've decided to get an Onkyo TX-NR609 for my receiver and still undecided sa mga speakers for my small room (3m x 3m), kaya gusto ko sana ay maliit lang either wall mounted or bookshelf. I'm eyeing for the Polk Audio TL series (TL2 or TL3 - has anyone tried this) pero still looking for other options. Any suggestions po ay highly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
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Bagay sa polk yun onkyo for me. Ganda din yan model ng Onkyo na yan. Daming inputs. Very versatile. Lakas din ng amp. Bookshelf speakers would be fine but i would recommend floorstanding speakers. You can also look into Klipsch and monitor audio. Better set your budget first, then audition the speakers that would fit your budget. ;)
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hi experts. I have a question. Im planning to buy a HT. My budget is 30k-40k max.
70% music 30 percent gaming(ps3 slim)/movies.
Here are my questions.
1.) How is the quality of Onkyo HT-S5405(30k)? for music? has anyone auditioned the HT-S5405? how is it for music use?
2.) Is it better for me to get an onkyo 509 and polk tsi300 then after a year maybe buy additional speakers? or onkyo 509 and polk ti100 plus cs10.
3.) If i choose to buy the HT-S5405. Can I upgrade the speakers to like polk tsi300 in the future? will the a/v receiver power the speaker well? my worry is the receiver of the HT-S5405 is much inferior compared to 509. I am not that good in comparing the features/capabilities of the receivers because i dont understand them that well. :)
Thanks :)
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Hi gudam..ask ko lang po which is better yamaha RX-V463 or pioneer vsx 520k...for home theater set up..thx in advance..
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Hi gudam..ask ko lang po which is better yamaha RX-V463 or pioneer vsx 520k...for home theater set up..thx in advance..
VSX-520-K supports HD Audio and is a relatively newer model.
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hello,
Ask ko lang sana kung ok tong set up na to? Basically pang movie and sa sala lang namen..
Wharf 9 Cinema - P13,600
consists of:
1x pair of Diamond 9.0 Speakers
1x pair of Diamond 9.SR Speakers
1x Diamond 9.CC Centre Speaker
1x SW-100 Subwoofer
Onkyo TXNR313 - P17,500
Salamat!
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hello,
Ask ko lang sana kung ok tong set up na to? Basically pang movie and sa sala lang namen..
Wharf 9 Cinema - P13,600
consists of:
1x pair of Diamond 9.0 Speakers
1x pair of Diamond 9.SR Speakers
1x Diamond 9.CC Centre Speaker
1x SW-100 Subwoofer
Onkyo TXNR313 - P17,500
Salamat!
go with 5 or 6 series ng onkyo huwag na ung 313
mag 10 series ka na ng wharf or polk
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onkyo 605 from us sa marketplace..oks po ba un? Tia..
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onkyo 605 from us sa marketplace..oks po ba un? Tia..
pwede un kung kaya ng budget
hehehe
dami ok dyan brader
search mo lang ung marketplace hehehe
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hi everyone! i'm setting up a simple pipe in music for my tiny house. i presently have 2- way 8" 70 watts 8 ohms ceiling speakers which i plan to install in 4 different areas. 2 in the dining area, 2 in the sala area, 2 in the patio area and 2 in our walk-in dressing/bathroom area.
What type of amp should i get and value for money brand and model?
requirements will be as follows:
-to power patio area speakers alone, to power dining and sala areas, and to power bathroom area alone
-to have output for ipods, iphone, and mp3 players
-to have cd player and tuner.
would appreciate any inputs. thanks in advance. :)
aqua2
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hi everyone! i'm setting up a simple pipe in music for my tiny house. i presently have 2- way 8" 70 watts 8 ohms ceiling speakers which i plan to install in 4 different areas. 2 in the dining area, 2 in the sala area, 2 in the patio area and 2 in our walk-in dressing/bathroom area.
What type of amp should i get and value for money brand and model?
requirements will be as follows:
-to power patio area speakers alone, to power dining and sala areas, and to power bathroom area alone
-to have output for ipods, iphone, and mp3 players
-to have cd player and tuner.
would appreciate any inputs. thanks in advance. :)
aqua2
You need an amplifier for every pair. May mga vintage amplifier na may speaker A & B output if you like. Or a preamp, and power amps for each pair. Best if you could post your budget so that others can give better opinions.
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hi everyone! i'm setting up a simple pipe in music for my tiny house. i presently have 2- way 8" 70 watts 8 ohms ceiling speakers which i plan to install in 4 different areas. 2 in the dining area, 2 in the sala area, 2 in the patio area and 2 in our walk-in dressing/bathroom area.
What type of amp should i get and value for money brand and model?
requirements will be as follows:
-to power patio area speakers alone, to power dining and sala areas, and to power bathroom area alone
-to have output for ipods, iphone, and mp3 players
-to have cd player and tuner.
would appreciate any inputs. thanks in advance. :)
aqua2
I suggest using a multi-room amplifier. These are amplifiers with multiple channels, so that you can tailor the gain for each room.
How much money are you willing to part with?
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I suggest using a multi-room amplifier. These are amplifiers with multiple channels, so that you can tailor the gain for each room.
How much money are you willing to part with?
Meron ata ang cambridge nito master? Or multi room control laang?
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Meron ata ang cambridge nito master? Or multi room control laang?
Incognito ang solution ng Cambridge Audio. Medyo mas magastos siya dahil individual units at control modules.
Maraming mas affordable na decent multi-room amplifiers. Madalas intended for use by pro installers.
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You need an amplifier for every pair. May mga vintage amplifier na may speaker A & B output if you like. Or a preamp, and power amps for each pair. Best if you could post your budget so that others can give better opinions.
no idea at all. Is p10k enough? Where can i go to inquire? Tnx!
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I suggest using a multi-room amplifier. These are amplifiers with multiple channels, so that you can tailor the gain for each room.
How much money are you willing to part with?
is p10k enough.
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is p10k enough.
That's a bit tight, unless you're okay with running the same volume for all your rooms.
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That's a bit tight, unless you're okay with running the same volume for all your rooms.
oh ok. can you kindly share with me amp i can buy and brand? i'm willing to increase budget if necessary. just don't have idea at all on how to go about it. appreciate all your inputs.
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oh ok. can you kindly share with me amp i can buy and brand? i'm willing to increase budget if necessary. just don't have idea at all on how to go about it. appreciate all your inputs.
Your likely options would either be...
2 (or more) channel amp coupled with passive volume controls like this:
(http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2011/16/543/x543ALTX2D-F.jpeg)
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run a multichannel amp:
(http://www.be-mine.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Stealth-Acoustics-SA8400-Amplifier.jpg)
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hi everyone! i'm setting up a simple pipe in music for my tiny house. i presently have 2- way 8" 70 watts 8 ohms ceiling speakers which i plan to install in 4 different areas. 2 in the dining area, 2 in the sala area, 2 in the patio area and 2 in our walk-in dressing/bathroom area.
What type of amp should i get and value for money brand and model?
requirements will be as follows:
-to power patio area speakers alone, to power dining and sala areas, and to power bathroom area alone
-to have output for ipods, iphone, and mp3 players
-to have cd player and tuner.
would appreciate any inputs. thanks in advance. :)
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Sa tingin ko mas praktikal kung kuha ka ng 1 modern pre-amp (or avr na decent but not too expensive, but be sure that it has preouts, pre-owned will do), then get 2 vintage amps with 2 speaker systems. In that way you will get the inputs that you need (ipod, usb, cd etc..) and then able to utilize those 4 sets of speakers.
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Sa tingin ko mas praktikal kung kuha ka ng 1 modern pre-amp (or avr na decent but not too expensive, but be sure that it has preouts, pre-owned will do), then get 2 vintage amps with 2 speaker systems. In that way you will get the inputs that you need (ipod, usb, cd etc..) and then able to utilize those 4 sets of speakers.
thanks tempter! appreciate your inputs.
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Your likely options would either be...
2 (or more) channel amp coupled with passive volume controls like this:
(http://www.crutchfield.com.edgesuite.net/pix.crutchfield.com/ImageHandler/fixedscale/400/300/products/2011/16/543/x543ALTX2D-F.jpeg)
OR
run a multichannel amp:
(http://www.be-mine.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Stealth-Acoustics-SA8400-Amplifier.jpg)
thanks stagea. will check out your advice.
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Hello,
I am a newbie. I am looking for a decent audio-video receiver with a complete speaker system (including sub). My room is 15 square meters and my budget is around 30-40K to set-up my entertainment system.
What in my mind initially are...
> Yamaha VX-371 or VX-471 and mordaunt short speaker pkg combination.
> Onkyo TX-NR414 and wharfdale speaker system combination
Really appreciate any inputs that would fit to my 30-40K budget which can still be a good entertainment package (audio & video) in my 15 sq.mtr room.
Rgds,
Eric
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mga sir patulong naman po, i saw an ht package na binebenta:
Yamaha rxv 373/473
Yamaha NS 8390 FS
Yamaha NS P150 center and surrounds
No sub
Ok na ba to na setup for starters? Nasa 35k ata.
performance wise?
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Hello gurus
Im opening a lounge boutique soon. I have no knowledge about audio systems. Can anyone suggest a budget audio system for my lounge? size is 25sqr mtr rectangular. I would be also putting up 2 lcd's.
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hi mga sirs! newbie lang po. plano ko bumili ng AVR 5.1 channel, ang 2 choices ko ay ang yamaha v473 at ang onkyo nr509. meron lang ako na 2 Fspeaker and a subwoofer, medyo kapos na sa budget, pag ipunan ko pa yung ibang speakers :) . mostly for music listening ang gagawin ko pero mahilig din ako manood ng movies kaya i prefer the 5.1 channel receiver. eto po ang mga tanong ko.
1. ok pa rin ba ang magiging tunog pag nakikinig ng music lang, considering the fact that the 3 speakers are connected to a 5.1 channel system?
2. sa mga new model ng AVR ngayon, meron bang feature na pwede i-bypass yung ibang speakers, like the center and sorrounds para ma-utilize ang fronts and sub speaker during movie watching or when listening to music?
3. alin ba sa yamaha o onkyo ang mas maganda para sa polk speakers?
i hope you can help me mga sir. :) thank you.
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1. Yes the receiver will work but IMO, a stereo integrated amp is still better than a receiver if both are to be used purely for music.
2. When you calibrate your speakers the receiver will detect that you only have a 2.1 set up so no need to bypass. Also, when you play just music, your source(e.g bluray player or cd player) will already let your receiver know that its playing a music cd so if set at auto detect, only the fronts and sub will work. More often than not, there are different sound settings available for you to choose from while listening(e.g. Stereo, direct, pure direct, extended stereo etc...). It would be up to you on which setting suits your taste.
3. Both brands suit polk speakers. It would be best to audition them with your speakers.
Hope this helps.
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thank you sir Timithekid for answering my questions. :D .follow up question sir, sa mga speaker connections at the back of the AVR, some models have a Sub pre out and other don't, ano yung pagkakaiba nila?
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thank you sir Timithekid for answering my questions. :D .follow up question sir, sa mga speaker connections at the back of the AVR, some models have a Sub pre out and other don't, ano yung pagkakaiba nila?
A receiver with no preout? Pasensya na sir i havent encountered such a receiver, baka po yung resident experts dito alam yan. Sub pre outs are for powered subs, meaning they are active and have their own amp built inside them.
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pasensya na sir Timithekid medyo magulo yung naging tanong ko before, to be specific yung sa onkyo 509 meron subwoofer connection na may nakasulat na 'pre out' , while yung sa yamaha 473 ay meron subwoofer connection pero 'walang' nakasulat na pre out. does it mean na hindi ko pwede mag-connect ng powered sub sa yamaha 473?
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eto pic ng yamaha RX-v473,
meron syang subout connection para sa powered sub mo.
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i384/louie110/473_zps82e03def.jpg)
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pasensya na sir Timithekid medyo magulo yung naging tanong ko before, to be specific yung sa onkyo 509 meron subwoofer connection na may nakasulat na 'pre out' , while yung sa yamaha 473 ay meron subwoofer connection pero 'walang' nakasulat na pre out. does it mean na hindi ko pwede mag-connect ng powered sub sa yamaha 473?
+1 on sir louie1's answer. some receivers don't specifically say sub pre out. you might even see sub1 and sub2 for ".2" capable receivers. And for higher level ones it will be bunched up with the other preouts(Center, Front Left, Front Right, etc.)
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thank you sir louie1 at sir Timithekid! :) naintindihan ko na. :D
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good day mga sirs, sorry di ko po kasi alam kung san pwede i-post tong simple inquiry ko.. paki-direct nalang po ako if my appropriate thread.
bale bumili po kasi ako ng 5.1 speaker system na logitech Z906, ano po ba maire-recommend nyong portable, simple at cheap na FM & MP3 player with usb port, optical output and a remote, at ok din kung may display like what track is playing. pang pure music ko lang po gagamitin, kaya di ko po need yung mga dvd/bluray player..
thanks!
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Sir we have active speakers pwede rin gumana sª blootooth JBL SB 100 and 200 or Actimate Audio mini pls. Call mike gamboa 632 9345 / 632 8785 thanks
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hunting for a good receiver here... budget for 40k-60k... any suggestions? thanks...
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hunting for a good receiver here... budget for 40k-60k... any suggestions? thanks...
Suggest you get the Pioneer SC-LX86, top of the line of the Elite series. There is one at the market place that is almost brand new, mint condition and very reasonable priced. Pioneer has no known issues on its TOTL Elite receivers and runs cool (compared to other avrs like Onkyo, Denon and Marantz) as it is powered by award-winning ICEPower amp module.
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Suggest you get the Pioneer SC-LX86, top of the line of the Elite series. There is one at the market place that is almost brand new, mint condition and very reasonable priced. Pioneer has no known issues on its TOTL Elite receivers and runs cool (compared to other avrs like Onkyo, Denon and Marantz) as it is powered by award-winning ICEPower amp module.
Sir, class D pa din yun new LX86 pero i think proprietary class D amp na ng Pio and hindi na Icepower.
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Sir, class D pa din yun new LX86 pero i think proprietary class D amp na ng Pio and hindi na Icepower.
Salamat konsehal sa correction. It's Pioneer's proprietary Direct Energy HD Class D amp that powers the SC-LX86, which is considered to be a lot better than the B&O ICEpower. ;D
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hunting for a good receiver here... budget for 40k-60k... any suggestions? thanks...
@Joey,
How about a 2nd hand 5008? Selling my personal unit for 60k :)
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Mga sirs, pa suggest naman ng 5.1 speaker setup. 50/50 movies and music.
Nag list down na ako ng sub-100k setup, baka po may revisions kayo na ma-suggest, pwede rin palitan yung AVR haha. Thanks!
Yamaha V673 Receiver – P30,000
Speaker Package 1:
Q300 Front – P24,000
Q300 Rear – P24,000
Q600c Center P24,000
Q400b subs – P25,000
Total: P97k
Speaker Package 2:
B&W 685 Front -25,000
B&W 686 Rear 20,000
HTM62 Center 17,000
ASW608 subs 21,500
Total: P83.5K
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just bought my 1st AVR Denon X520BT without speakers yet :( can you help me by suggesting 5.1 set that will not go beyond 20k?
meron nako mga napili like JBL 510/610 Cinema, Wharfedale set and so far yan palang. Movies, games, music for a small room.
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Hello,
Anybody tried pairing Denon AVR with Polk Audio speakers? Is it good?
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Yamaha NS-E103 surround speaker. Ok na po ba to for surround?
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Sir tanong ko lang kung ano ang magandang match for the monitor audio silver RS6 speakers for HT setup. 50/50 movies and music use.