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8 meter audio interconnect question
« on: Oct 29, 2009 at 11:54 AM »
Hi all

i was wondering if you can help me with these inquiries

1. would the quality of sound change if i use a long interconnect cable from my cd to my amp (approximately 6-8 meters)
2. since there are no branded cables that are that long is i plan to make a DIy using klotz cables
3. im going to venture into turntables soon and also plan to use a long interconnect same as above is this okay ?
4. can you use the interconnects for cd players to turntables are they the same
5. what model of klotz cables do you suggest

thanks in advance

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #1 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 12:28 PM »
Hi all

i was wondering if you can help me with these inquiries

1. would the quality of sound change if i use a long interconnect cable from my cd to my amp (approximately 6-8 meters)
it will, depending on your, and your system's threshold of change detection. to make sure change is minimal, make use of xlr cabling if your gears would be compatible. if not, then i suggest you try repositioning to minimize ic lengths.
2. since there are no branded cables that are that long is i plan to make a DIy using klotz cables.
klotz cables are nice for diy runs. im making use of them as well from my preamp to my amps....xlr pair.
3. im going to venture into turntables soon and also plan to use a long interconnect same as above is this okay ? refer to my answer in ?#1
4. can you use the interconnects for cd players to turntables are they the same. they are the same, only that TTs would normally require grounding to minimize noise.
5. what model of klotz cables do you suggest. ask for their most recommended model. visit any "audiophile" branches. meron sa mcs

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #2 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 12:49 PM »
If you are truly set with that layout, here's what I have in mind...

For the CD Player:

If Balanced XLR (analogue) or SPDIF (digital) is available, then these are preferred. If not, Unbalanced Interconnects can also work. Long unbalanced interconnects in that range are common in the mobile audio environment. If you choose the right cables, you might be able to cut it. Choose a cable with thick conductors to minimize losses, and one with good shielding to minimize noise intrusion.

For the Turntable:

Keep the Phono Stage close to the Turntable. You can run the long length from the Phono Stage to your Preamp/Amp. The reason is that the signal level coming from the Turntable is very low, and is very easy to ruin with a little induced noise or cable loss. The signal level from the Phono Stage is significantly higher, and will work with longer runs with less degradation. As with the CD Player's case, a balanced interconnect would be great, but unbalanced would still work if you follow the right precautions.


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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #3 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 12:57 PM »
mukang mapapagastos si sir simonzaide ah! yummy yan XLR gogogo ;D

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #4 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 12:59 PM »
thanks guys was just wondering what is XLR ?

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #5 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 01:05 PM »
thanks guys was just wondering what is XLR ?
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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #6 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 01:14 PM »
ah okay okay :)

spdif means using an optical cable right ?

sorry im a newbie with these terms

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #7 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 01:16 PM »
before you go balanced, you can try unbalaced first, if you are able to get away with not having to contend with ground loops, and noise pickups....then you are okey....8meters is not that long anyway.... ;D
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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #8 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 01:19 PM »
spdif means using an optical cable right ?

SPDIF can either be digital coaxial, or toslink/fiber optic cable.

"The name stands for Sony/Philips Digital Interconnect Format (more commonly known as Sony Philips Digital InterFace)."
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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #9 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 01:43 PM »
thanks mga sir  ;D

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #10 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 03:15 PM »
I'd go for a unbalanced-to-balanced transmitter and balanced-to-unbalanced receiver solution.

It should look like this...

cdp (unbalanced output) -> unbalanced-to-balanced transmitter -> 8 meter XLR to XLR interconnects -> balanced-to-unbalanced receiver -> preamp/integrated amp.

For phono applications...

turntable -> phono preamp (unbalanced output) -> unbalanced-to-balanced transmitter -> 8 meter XLR to XLR interconnects -> balanced-to-unbalanced receiver -> preamp/integrated amp.

Hope this helps.




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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #11 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 03:59 PM »
pwede bang magbalik ng tanong? why would you want to put those equipment far away from each other? i was thinking kasi you could put your equipment together and use longer speaker cables instead.

btw agree ako kay sir tony, 8 meters is not that far. with good cables and proper routing (considerable distance from AC lines) you can easily get away with ordinary RCA connections.
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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #12 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 04:11 PM »
well my audio rack wont be able to accomodate the cd player and turntable. and i cant put another rack on that side of the room since my speakers are there narin so i would like to put it on the right side of the wall medyo near the bed :)

according the the shop the rack can hold up to 50 kilos per layer (its a glass rack) so medyo alangan ako if thats true so i placed 1 amp on the bottom layer (around 24kilos give or take). The center speakers and other abubuts on the 2nd layer. and the 37inch lcd tv is hanging since may bracket sya and honeslty the bracket is not that firm since minsan medyo nag swasway yung tungkod nya when im cleaning it but its been hanging there for 10 months and so far di pa naman nahuhulog :)

i dont want to over do the rack baka bumigay and ill end up crying :)

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #13 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 07:35 PM »
Rack upgrade!   ;D  Ganda nung Bello rack na benta ni voj dati.  Not sure kung available pa.   ;)

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Re: 8 meter audio interconnect question
« Reply #14 on: Oct 29, 2009 at 07:56 PM »
bluetooth na lang yan sir wireless pa.  :P

joke lang po ;D