Author Topic: CD Players surplus (Read 411808 times)

JojoD818 · « **Reply #1650 on:** Jan 08, 2005 at 11:26 PM »

sandawa,

It was nice to finally meet you sir, and thanks for the Durian candies!

Hopefully next time we could talk much longer or maybe join us in a session.

Oh btw, they survived...

JojoD

JojoD818 · « **Reply #1651 on:** Jan 09, 2005 at 02:38 PM »

Kakainis pala yun mga ES models ng Sony!

Naka Elna Cerafine, Elna for Audio caps, Polyesterene, MKP caps, at ang dali pang himayin dahil hiwalay yun pcb ng DAC at opt. 6 opamps nga lang yun papalitan ko, along with their respective caps. 1% Metal film and metal oxide resistors all around too!

Thanks sir sandawa!

wanderlust · « **Reply #1652 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 12:48 PM »

nandito pala c sir sandawa........... ano pang hinihintay natin session na. hehehe.

sandawa · « **Reply #1653 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 03:03 PM »

JojoD,

Hanap pa tayo rito ng magandang CDP surplus models - hindi morena, yung kulay Hapon - baka may record deck din na puwedeng i- revive, ipapadala ko sa 'yo thru Philtranco.

Audioslave/Wanderlust/Superman,

Salamat for your comments/invitations, unfortunately nandito na 'ko sa Davao first flight 4:30a.m. today. Saturday, Sunday lang ako dyan and all my commitments were in QC, no extra trips. Next time, I may see you guys, I'll treat you to buffet lunch or dinner, 'wag lang lalampas ng isang dosena (para worth one surplus amp lang).

wanderlust · « **Reply #1654 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 03:11 PM »

OY....... your welcome sir. sana nga well be able to meet na next time.

JojoD818 · « **Reply #1655 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 03:35 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jan 10, 2005 at 03:03 PM

JojoD,

Hanap pa tayo rito ng magandang CDP surplus models - hindi morena, yung kulay Hapon - baka may record deck din na puwedeng i- revive, ipapadala ko sa 'yo thru Philtranco.

Audioslave/Wanderlust/Superman,

Salamat for your comments/invitations, unfortunately nandito na 'ko sa Davao first flight 4:30a.m. today. Saturday, Sunday lang ako dyan and all my commitments were in QC, no extra trips. Next time, I may see you guys, I'll treat you to buffet lunch or dinner, 'wag lang lalampas ng isang dosena (para worth one surplus amp lang).

I love the cdps sir! wla na nga ako magawa kungdi mag opamp roll. I don't know how Sony does it pero they really did an excellent job and I intend to find out how they did it... dalawa specimens ko eh... sarap ng Durian candies! Thanks!

sandawa · « **Reply #1656 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 04:10 PM »

pag wala tayong nakuhang pair na magandang klase, yung dalawang Sony X333ES (separate analog and digital transformers - mas mabigat) ang dadalhin ko sa susunod. palagi kasing dalawa ang binibili ko, kahit surplus, para may back-up palagi pag nasira yung isa. ang hindi ko lang talaga puwedeng pakawalan yung Revox B226 twins ko, kahit naghihingalo na yung isa. ang ganda ng loob, kahit mid-80s pa ginawa. gayang-gaya ng new models ng Jolida and Consonance yung left and right modular PCB design, except mukhang nagtipid ang mga Intsik sa parts na ginamit.

Narayan · « **Reply #1657 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 07:39 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jan 10, 2005 at 04:10 PM

ang hindi ko lang talaga puwedeng pakawalan yung Revox B226 twins ko, kahit naghihingalo na yung isa. ang ganda ng loob, kahit mid-80s pa ginawa. gayang-gaya ng new models ng Jolida and Consonance yung left and right modular PCB design, except mukhang nagtipid ang mga Intsik sa parts na ginamit.

well, what else can we expect bro...swiss made naman yang twins mo

JojoD818 · « **Reply #1658 on:** Jan 10, 2005 at 07:49 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jan 10, 2005 at 04:10 PM

pag wala tayong nakuhang pair na magandang klase, yung dalawang Sony X333ES (separate analog and digital transformers - mas mabigat) ang dadalhin ko sa susunod. palagi kasing dalawa ang binibili ko, kahit surplus, para may back-up palagi pag nasira yung isa. ang hindi ko lang talaga puwedeng pakawalan yung Revox B226 twins ko, kahit naghihingalo na yung isa. ang ganda ng loob, kahit mid-80s pa ginawa. gayang-gaya ng new models ng Jolida and Consonance yung left and right modular PCB design, except mukhang nagtipid ang mga Intsik sa parts na ginamit.

Wow, something to look forward to. If I'm not mistaken, just last year, I only got a Sony discman as a source. Now, I have 4 cdp to choose from! My tube preamp is going nuts switching between sources.

I remember those Revox you told me, that's really a manufacturer's way to minimize engineering costs, installing an exisiting board to a new design while removing the bells and whistles to cut costs furthermore.

sandawa · « **Reply #1659 on:** Jan 11, 2005 at 10:38 AM »

it worked on PCs but i remember it didn't generally catch up on hifi, e.g. UK's Quad 33 amp, which has slots for upgrade cards, built 25 years ago. the problem then was each upgrade card had a price tag roughly 50% of brand-new unit, so cost efficiency is lost. but the Chinese are now selling made-to- modify CDPs and amps. i wish they would revive the Quad experiment in CDPs, with cheaper plug-and-play upgrade cards made for optical circuits, opamps, DACs, etc. wala nang soldering! kapag ganyan, DIY will dominate the market: home-assembled CDPs mounted on surplus units. he-he-he!

JojoD818 · « **Reply #1660 on:** Jan 11, 2005 at 10:52 AM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jan 11, 2005 at 10:38 AM

it worked on PCs but i remember it didn't generally catch up on hifi, e.g. UK's Quad 33 amp, which has slots for upgrade cards, built 25 years ago. the problem then was each upgrade card had a price tag roughly 50% of brand-new unit, so cost efficiency is lost. but the Chinese are now selling made-to- modify CDPs and amps. i wish they would revive the Quad experiment in CDPs, with cheaper plug-and-play upgrade cards made for optical circuits, opamps, DACs, etc. wala nang soldering! kapag ganyan, DIY will dominate the market: home-assembled CDPs mounted on surplus units. he-he-he!

There's nothing impossible with our Chinese brothers....

wanderlust · « **Reply #1661 on:** Jan 11, 2005 at 10:58 AM »

and if it does us without the golden finger for soldering will be able to to it, home made.........

Superman · « **Reply #1662 on:** Apr 22, 2005 at 08:46 AM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jan 10, 2005 at 03:03 PM

JojoD,

Hanap pa tayo rito ng magandang CDP surplus models - hindi morena, yung kulay Hapon - baka may record deck din na puwedeng i- revive, ipapadala ko sa 'yo thru Philtranco.

Audioslave/Wanderlust/Superman,

Salamat for your comments/invitations, unfortunately nandito na 'ko sa Davao first flight 4:30a.m. today. Saturday, Sunday lang ako dyan and all my commitments were in QC, no extra trips. Next time, I may see you guys, I'll treat you to buffet lunch or dinner, 'wag lang lalampas ng isang dosena (para worth one surplus amp lang).

i'll be there in davao tomorrow, bro...hala, maghanap pa tayo ng mga CDP and TTs...hehehe! and of course, yung lunch/dinner ha, hahahaha! thanks!

Jairus · « **Reply #1663 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 08:55 AM »

mga gurus...

I just bought a Denon DCD1500 from pier last week for P1,900. Is this a good price already? Any experience/comments about this model? Anyway, connected it with a surplus amp I also bought from pier, a Denon PMA390 (for P2,300), and it sounded even better than my HK receiver for 2-channel audio. (I actually went to pier just to scout for an amp to power my bass shakers and ended up buying a CDP as well

)

On to my problem, as I mentioned the CD player sounds great. It has no problem reading original material but is picky with pCDs and CDRs. I read somewhere here (i just can't find it anymore

) that some minor adjustments can correct this problem. Please I need your help. Thanks!

bumblebee · « **Reply #1664 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 09:00 AM »

Quote from: Jairus on Jun 16, 2005 at 08:55 AM

mga gurus...

I just bought a Denon DCD1500 from pier last week for P1,900. Is this a good price already? Any experience/comments about this model? Anyway, connected it with a surplus amp I also bought from pier, a Denon PMA390 (for P2,300), and it sounded even better than my HK receiver for 2-channel audio. (I actually went to pier just to scout for an amp to power my bass shakers and ended up buying a CDP as well )

On to my problem, as I mentioned the CD player sounds great. It has no problem reading original material but is picky with pCDs and CDRs. I read somewhere here (i just can't find it anymore ) that some minor adjustments can correct this problem. Please I need your help. Thanks!

an old cd player may not always be able to read today's cds. if you're using cdr's, try writing in 1x speed.

H a n $ · « **Reply #1665 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 09:26 AM »

Quote from: Jairus on Jun 16, 2005 at 08:55 AM

mga gurus...

I just bought a Denon DCD1500 from pier last week for P1,900. Is this a good price already? Any experience/comments about this model? Anyway, connected it with a surplus amp I also bought from pier, a Denon PMA390 (for P2,300), and it sounded even better than my HK receiver for 2-channel audio. (I actually went to pier just to scout for an amp to power my bass shakers and ended up buying a CDP as well )

On to my problem, as I mentioned the CD player sounds great. It has no problem reading original material but is picky with pCDs and CDRs. I read somewhere here (i just can't find it anymore ) that some minor adjustments can correct this problem. Please I need your help. Thanks!

Jairus,

Congrats sa CDP and AMp mo talaga iba sound ng 2 channel amp compare to multi channel amps that's why some have separate setup for audio..

As for your cdp usually after playing some Orig copy and then you change to CDr or pCD your player will have some hard time reading BUT after some tries it will read and play them... if this persist try to bring it back to the shop, bring along your cdr/pCD that the player can't read so they can adjust or replace the unit.. btw di ba puro pCD's yun pang testing ng shop.

Almost all my CDP are surplus and almost all my CD collection are CDr or pCD's and i don't have any problem..

enjoy..

av_phile1 · « **Reply #1666 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 10:58 AM »

Some players won't play CD-Rs that have not been finalized during the recording process.

Superman · « **Reply #1667 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 11:17 AM »

Quote from: Jairus on Jun 16, 2005 at 08:55 AM

mga gurus...

I just bought a Denon DCD1500 from pier last week for P1,900. Is this a good price already? Any experience/comments about this model? Anyway, connected it with a surplus amp I also bought from pier, a Denon PMA390 (for P2,300), and it sounded even better than my HK receiver for 2-channel audio. (I actually went to pier just to scout for an amp to power my bass shakers and ended up buying a CDP as well )

On to my problem, as I mentioned the CD player sounds great. It has no problem reading original material but is picky with pCDs and CDRs. I read somewhere here (i just can't find it anymore ) that some minor adjustments can correct this problem. Please I need your help. Thanks!

sometimes surplus CDPs only need lens adjustment and cleaning...if you know of someone who can do this for you you can expect improvements in reading even scratched CDs...i've had some CDPs having a difficult time reading CDs...especially CD-Rs...and even some original CDs...adjustment lang ang kinailangan...and also if i may add, that's a good CDP although you would have bought it sana for a lower price (around Php1k to Php1.5k)...if you have additional dough, try to "ujpgrade" some of the caps and resistors and you'll hear a lot of improvement...should you need help just send me an SMS, 0917-8004868...thanks!

av_phile1 · « **Reply #1668 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 11:28 AM »

Here's an excellent FAQ site on CD player adjustments:

http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/REPAIR/F_cdfaq7.html

Jairus · « **Reply #1669 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 12:35 PM »

Thanks guys for the replies...I was hoping somebody can give me a step-by-step procedure on how to do the tweaking so I can do it myself. Medyo hassle bumalik sa pier to have it adjusted (and baka may iba na naman akong maiuwi

).

Superman...Yes, I know i could have gotten it for a lower price (probably P1,500). I just picked this up as a replacement for my original choice which was a Victor Z701 (i can't remember the exact model

). Anyway, the Victor looks and feels like its a top-of the line model...its really heavy and even has a realy heavy stabilizer (i'm not sure if its wood or marble) screwed underneath. Unfortunately, its picky even for original CDs and it skips on some recordings...and I this I found out after I have set it up at home

. Brought it back the same dayt and according to the store, they'll just do some adjustments but i opted to just replace it.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #1670 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 01:09 PM »

The site above has some step-by-step procedures.

sandawa · « **Reply #1671 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 05:45 PM »

okay, you want to experiment? open your CDP cover. find the variable resistors for focus (FCS) and tracking (TRK) on the circuit board, ordinarily there are four - one each per channel. rotate left or right the adjustment screws using a small philips-type screwdriver. you should do this while playing the CDP - listen thru the headphone of the effects on the adjustments you make.

adjust at your own risk. if you're lucky, you would solve the problem, otherwise, you'll totally ruin your unit.

H a n $ · « **Reply #1672 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 06:44 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Jun 16, 2005 at 05:45 PM

okay, you want to experiment? open your CDP cover. find the variable resistors for focus (FCS) and tracking (TRK) on the circuit board, ordinarily there are four - one each per channel. rotate left or right the adjustment screws using a small philips-type screwdriver. you should do this while playing the CDP - listen thru the headphone of the effects on the adjustments you make.

adjust at your own risk. if you're lucky, you would solve the problem, otherwise, you'll totally ruin your unit.

Ayan pala...

pero don't worry pier price talaga are from 1,800 to 2,500 depend sa models.. yun 1,500 medyo napilian na heheheh..

sandawa · « **Reply #1673 on:** Jun 16, 2005 at 08:04 PM »

pag nasira. kayang kayang kumuha ng replacement thru Superman dito sa Davao. discounted rate, mas mababa pa sa low-price ng Pier. he-he-he!

JojoD818 · « **Reply #1674 on:** Jun 17, 2005 at 06:51 AM »

Tagal ko na di nakakapost sa thread na ito ah... musta na mga surplus cdp ngayon?

sandawa,

pag free ka na sir pwede tuloy na natin yun shipping ng mga epektos este electronics.

please don't forget the durian candies!

thanks!

H a n $ · « **Reply #1675 on:** Jun 17, 2005 at 12:17 PM »

Quote from: JojoD818 on Jun 17, 2005 at 06:51 AM

Tagal ko na di nakakapost sa thread na ito ah... musta na mga surplus cdp ngayon?

sandawa,

pag free ka na sir pwede tuloy na natin yun shipping ng mga epektos este electronics. please don't forget the durian candies!

thanks!

Sandawa,

Kita yun Sony 502ES na galing sa iyo.. hehehehe fresh pa!

Jairus · « **Reply #1676 on:** Jun 20, 2005 at 11:18 AM »

Thanks for the tips..medyo risky rin pala kung kalikutin

I'll probably just try cleaning the lens.

gutchy · « **Reply #1677 on:** Jun 23, 2005 at 03:54 PM »

sir JojoD818,

I have an Onkyo 701XG surplus CD player.. I think katulad nung nka-post d2.. papalitan ko sana ng OPamp but when i opened it 5 ung OPamp nya NJM4565 (4 pcs) near the DAC and before that 1 pc. of NE5532.. ung DAC nya PCM58P (2pcs)
kala ko parehas nung nka-post d2 na Mitsubishi M5218L (SIP8).. sir do i need to replace them all? Medyo mahal ang mga High end na opamp... Help nmn sir.. Thanks!

t_s_o_n_g · « **Reply #1678 on:** Jul 18, 2005 at 03:50 PM »

Hi,

May schedule ba kung kailan ang bagsakan ng mga surplass cdp sa pier?

Cheers!

m0b1u5 · « **Reply #1679 on:** Jul 18, 2005 at 10:30 PM »

marami daw dumating last week kaso almost all of them daw may diperensiya sabi nung isang nagbebenta. Meron daw na Denon na 1500G model kaso sobra, sobra, sobra asking price. 13K daw ang gustong presyo nung may-ari ng store.