Topic: Plasma 2013

[raptor]

checkout the Samsung 51F5000 thread ... seems to be the bang for the back plasma tv that is locally available today - 51-inch full HD TV priced at PhP 30,273 for cash purchase ... selling like hotcakes to PDVD members, and i just purchased one last weekend, but for delivery sa Sunday as wala pa akong paglagyan at time this week

i'll post a non-expert review and my first impressions once i have it installed ... my point of comparison will be the Panasonic 42PV8 that it will be replacing

[skooter]

here is a review of the only reviewer that i trust..

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2013/07/battle-of-the-super-plasma-tvs-the-panasonic-vt60-versus-the-samsung-f8500/index.htm

since i'm in pinas so i go for 64F8500...

[cxiao12]

checkout the Samsung 51F5000 thread ... seems to be the bang for the back plasma tv that is locally available today - 51-inch full HD TV priced at PhP 30,273 for cash purchase ... selling like hotcakes to PDVD members, and i just purchased one last weekend, but for delivery sa Sunday as wala pa akong paglagyan at time this week

i'll post a non-expert review and my first impressions once i have it installed ... my point of comparison will be the Panasonic 42PV8 that it will be replacing

On sale parin ho ba yung 51f5000???

[raptor]

On sale parin ho ba yung 51f5000???

some Abensons and Abensons Avant stores are ahving the sale every Fri-Sun until the end of Sept., i bought mine at Abensons Glorietta, they said their sale is up to last weekend only but may be extended ... check this thread, they are posting updates on the sale -

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,183100.0.html

[skooter]

my cuzin just bought that f5000 the pQ is nice but the light output of the panel is pretty much letdown...w/dat madali ma wash-out yung image nya in a normal living room..dapat lights-out talaga para mapa-kinabangan yung F5000 lol...at daylight yung F5000 ay parang personal mirror lol...at daylight dapat naka dynamic or torch mode yung F5000 w/c is not advisable for a plasma panel.

[DTNS]

I got to see the Samsung 51F8500 at SM Appliance at Rockwell Power Plant. image quality and black levels were very good. but its retail price was 130k! 

[mykel18]

I got to see the Samsung 51F8500 at SM Appliance at Rockwell Power Plant. image quality and black levels were very good. but its retail price was 130k! 

Mahal talaga sa SM Appliance Center.

[halvert]

Sad news panasonic will stop selling plasmas by march 2014 http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/8/4818468/panasonic-to-exit-plasma-business-this-financial-year-report

[skooter]

Sad news panasonic will stop selling plasmas by march 2014 http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/8/4818468/panasonic-to-exit-plasma-business-this-financial-year-report

maybe vt and zt series prices will start to fall down, now that is good news for me hehehe

[ferdinand]

Oh no.!! Panasonic plasma is the best, led and lcd tv's no way.!!

Wait for the opportunity to buy bigger panasonic plasma at even down to earth price.

[DTNS]

maybe vt and zt series prices will start to fall down, now that is good news for me hehehe

maybe we'll finally see the VT60 and ZT60 hitting our market in 2014. we only have the X60, S60, and XT50 atm.

[Clondalkin]

1.  Samsung bright plasmas are still available.   The 8500 series is pretty impressive even though the ZT image still looks blacker and better.
2.  But my plan is to get the last VT or ZT when production ends while waiting out for OLED prices to become affordable.  However, even with my current VT2 and VT30, puedeng puede na assuming they last for many more years.

[GIJoe]

maybe we'll finally see the VT60 and ZT60 hitting our market in 2014. we only have the X60, S60, and XT50 atm.

Is this model will be locally distributed or a grey units?

[ninjababez®]

Is this model will be locally distributed or a grey units?

V and Z series is most likely grey

[DTNS]

Is this model will be locally distributed or a grey units?

locally distributed units are: 42/50X50, 50XT50, 65ST50. I think the 50X60, 60S60, and other 60 series Panasonic are grey units. (I'm not sure ah)

[skooter]

V and Z series is most likely grey

what do u mean grey units? an old model? these are not, flagship plasma tv ito sa panasonic w/c i consider the ultimate porno tv hehehe...

[ninjababez®]

what do u mean grey units? an old model? these are not, flagship plasma tv ito sa panasonic w/c i consider the ultimate porno tv hehehe...

grey market/units

[Clondalkin]

Kahit grey or blue or red or yellow or pink, basta tipong 60K na VT series and at least 50 inch.   

They seem to have a good quantity of leftover 50ST50s for around $700 in the US.  Dalhin nalang nila sa Pilipinas sana ng mapakinabangan.

[ninjababez®]

Kahit grey or blue or red or yellow or pink, basta tipong 60K na VT series and at least 50 inch.   

They seem to have a good quantity of leftover 50ST50s for around $700 in the US.  Dalhin nalang nila sa Pilipinas sana ng mapakinabangan.

60" para tapos na usapan

[raptor]

looks like plasma tv's are really going out -

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/why-plasma-tv-dying,news-17668.html

this one's a good read

[skooter]

looks like plasma tv's are really going out -

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/why-plasma-tv-dying,news-17668.html

this one's a good read

only the panasonic plasma are not selling well, samsung is doing good in this plasma bizness....

[barrister]

Sa akin OK lang, tigilan na ng Panny ang plasma nila, wala namang available dito e.

In 2011, gusto ko ng Panny 50UT30, walang available.  In 2012, gusto ng Panny 50ST50, walang available.  Nagkaroon ng ST50, pero 65 incher naman, gray unit pa  .  Nabuwisit ako, Sammy plasma 51E550 binili ko in 2012.  Very good plasma; sa black levels lang natalo ng Panny.

This 2013, ok siguro ang Panny plasma 50S60 and 50ST60, pero parehong hindi rin available.

Now, Sammy plasma na ang preference ko kahit magkaroon pa ng equivalent Panny model dito.

[Waxx]

was eyeing on the vt60.. pero because of this news.. hayssss...

[barrister]

was eyeing on the vt60.. pero because of this news.. hayssss...

Maganda talaga ang VT60 & ZT60.

Pero natalo naman yon ng Sammy F8500 sa 2013 VE shootout.  Ang F8500 available na; pero ang VT60, mamumuti ang mata mo kakahintay ng availability.  Bakit pa magtitiyaga sa Panny?

[mattia]

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/08/panasonic-end-plasma-tv/

How true?  Because of Samsung?

[skooter]

kahit nga sa LED bizness talo pa rin sila(panasonic) sa samsumg lol....sa 4K(new battlefield) nga mukhang talo parin, samsung has OLED TV(1080P) on the market now meanwhile ang panasonic walang available na unahan na naman sa paglabas ng mga bagong TV tech. kahit nga ang Sony's LED bizness struggling.

[barrister]

That's right.  Kahit naman within Samsung, mahina rin ang benta ng Sammy plasma vs. Sammy LED.

It's not just plasma vs. LED.  It's really Japan vs. South Korea.
 


 

http://www.engadget.com/2013/10/08/panasonic-end-plasma-tv/

How true?  Because of Samsung?

Maraming reasons.  Samsung is just one of them.
 
How true?  Still no official confirmation from Panny.  Ilang beses nang lumabas ang issue na ito.  But this time, it looks like Panny's plasma exit will push through.
 
This was Henry Hauser's response (US Panny Marketing VP) last April 2013 about the rumors:

"Reports that Panasonic will no longer develop and manufacture Plasma HDTVs are not correct.

"This week in New York City, Panasonic demonstrated the latest development of our gapless Plasma panel technology in our 2013 Smart VIERA ZT Series Plasma HDTV. The technology incorporated into our ZT Series Studio Master Panel will be the basis for continued plasma display panel development and production. While the Smart VIERA ZT Series introduces a new level of Plasma picture quality, we believe there is still room for further improvement and intend to continue to research ways to take our Plasma technology to even higher levels where it also has the potential to be applied in our other Plasma series in the future.
 
"VIERA Plasma HDTVs continue to set the standard for picture quality and black level excellence and the ZT Series is another example of the continued ability of Plasma to evolve and continue to deliver a best-in-class HDTV."
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/12/panasonic-buries-rumors-of-plasma-tv-death/
 
Ang tikas ng sagot noon, ha... 

This time, the latest round of reports first came from Reuters on Oct. 8, 2013, which cited confidential sources.   Panny has again released an official denial:
 
• The content of the [Reuters] report is not something that was announced by Panasonic.
• The company is looking into a variety of options regarding the strategy for the PDP [plasma display] business, but nothing has been decided at this stage.
• The company is looking into a variety of options regarding the utilization of the Amagasaki Factory, but nothing has been decided at this stage.
http://www.whathifi.com/news/panasonic-denies-reports-it-will-end-plasma-production-in-2014
 
Notice the big difference between the two responses. 
 
In April, it was a categorical denial from Panny, with a clear declaration of its intent to continue research and improvement.  This October, instead of denying it categorically, Panny can only say, "nothing has been decided." 

So in my opinion, mukhang totoo na ito. 
 
Earliest confirmation will be at the January 2014 Consumer Electronics Show in Vegas (CES 2014).  Pag walang bagong Panny plasma sa CES 2014, tapos na talaga yan.   
 
 

[Waxx]

Maganda talaga ang VT60 & ZT60.

Pero natalo naman yon ng Sammy F8500 sa 2013 VE shootout.  Ang F8500 available na; pero ang VT60, mamumuti ang mata mo kakahintay ng availability.  Bakit pa magtitiyaga sa Panny?

because of the 1 inch difference? i sound like a girl...

[skooter]

Sir barrister you are right too, sammy led tv is much more popular than their plasma tv lineup ang maganda lang sa sammy is that their tryin to flash-out all the bad things about plasma and that's what their F8500 plasma is all about.....

[Clondalkin]

Definitely Japan vs South Korea.  Hindi lang sa consumer electronics but also in terms of car, shipbuilding and oil & gas business.  Too tough to compete against a country where the gov't allegedly subsidizes potential loss, not to mention the salary level is still quite lower compared to Japanese standards - the Koreans are also very hardworking and driven to beat the Japanese in particular.

Pero in the nearly weekly shootout that I and 2 of my colleagues do at Best Buy or Frys (where else can we go if the ladies are in the mall?  ), we are still unanimous in this.

ZT60 is best, 8500 is 2nd, VT60 is third.  Kung cost performance ang usapan, pinakamataas ang VT60 at current market prices (it seems they had to reduce the price because the 8500 is better).  Pero kahit alin sa tatlo ang iuwi mo..panalo!    However, ang taas lalo talaga ng cost performance ng 50ST50 and 65ST50 - kung madali sana bitbitin!  $500 all-in ang quote ng door-to-door sa 65 incher so hindi na masama.