Author Topic: Plasma 2013 (Read 91942 times)

pao9307 · « **Reply #300 on:** Oct 17, 2013 at 03:59 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 17, 2013 at 03:56 PM

Sure, why not. Gandang TV ng VT60. Easy to sell if it's going to be a 50 incher. But 65 inch and up, it might be harder to sell.

unless idonate ni waxx sa less fortunate members (like me

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Clondalkin · « **Reply #301 on:** Oct 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM »

Tsip ang lalayo ng price range yata, so cost performance differences would be huge.

65VT60 can be had for around $3K, 75F8000 is about $7K while a 65-inch UHD is now at $5.5K

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 17, 2013 at 11:33 AM

im now torn between 65 inch VT60, 75inch LEDf8000, and a 4ktv..

edboy7 · « **Reply #302 on:** Oct 17, 2013 at 11:11 PM »

Waxx sent u pm re 65TV60

Waxx · « **Reply #303 on:** Oct 18, 2013 at 12:43 AM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Oct 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Tsip ang lalayo ng price range yata, so cost performance differences would be huge.

65VT60 can be had for around $3K, 75F8000 is about $7K while a 65-inch UHD is now at $5.5K

tama sir.. the vt60 is around 2.7-3k landed price.. yan ang pinaka masarap sa bulsa..

the 4ktv is about 4.5k$, priced nearly with the 75inch here, which is around 210kpesos.(yes its cheaper here!!)

Quote from: edboy7 on Oct 17, 2013 at 11:11 PM

tyvm sir.. got your pm.. actually sa kanya rin siguro ako kukuha ng 75 if ever.. ill just have to review it first!

very best experience with sir dom...
Waxx sent u pm re 65TV60

ninjababez® · « **Reply #304 on:** Oct 18, 2013 at 01:38 AM »

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 17, 2013 at 01:03 PM

actually wala akong makita e.. worst case scenario ill have to import it myself.. then again, if i didnt like it, will somebody buy it?

ako pero jaano gibbs ha

revskie · « **Reply #305 on:** Oct 19, 2013 at 08:06 AM »

Parang mas OK ata mag import from HK or SG ng VT60. 220Vac na mas malapit ang presumably mas mura ang shipment?

TinkerTailor · « **Reply #306 on:** Oct 20, 2013 at 03:36 PM »

Ganda pala talaga ng F8500. I saw it beside its lower rank sibling, the F5500 and the difference in black levels and brightness is very obvious. Really worthy of its top of the line position.

Waxx · « **Reply #307 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM »

i finally saw VT60 sa Listening in style kahapon.. the blacks were indeed good.

but i think plasma is not for me.

barrister · « **Reply #308 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 02:26 PM »

What size was the VT60 sir?

Waxx · « **Reply #309 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 02:31 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 21, 2013 at 02:26 PM

What size was the VT60 sir?

atty. 65 inch. nasa 230k but negotiable pa daw..

katabi nya kasi was an 80inch behemoth.. di ko alam anong brand.. but its 4k ata

they were displaying the same source 1080p.

the images were the same if not better pa nga yung panny...

but im thinking the 80inch has local dimming na... parang ang hirap i edge light ang 80inch.

i could be wrong.. anyhoo did not take notice much of the 80inch 4k kasi.. wala talagang plan bilhin..

the panny looks good.. if i didnt come from 65inch LED i will get the panny..

pero sa presyo ng vt60, i will rather a 75inch LED.

bigger is better ika nga.

barrister · « **Reply #310 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 03:14 PM »

Thanks for the quick reply.

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 21, 2013 at 02:31 PM

atty. 65 inch. nasa 230k but negotiable pa daw..

Sabi ko na nga ba e ...

Best selling plasma size is 50 inch. Pero ang available current series Panny plasma dito, wrong size na, wrong model pa, gray pa, late release pa. Best selling 2013 Panny Plasma is 50ST60. Available here, gray 65VT60. No wonder Panny plasma sales are so low.

Ang mahal pa. US list price of 65VT60 is only P142,384.03 ($3,299.99). Ang layo naman ng P230K, gray pa.

In comparison, US list price of Samsung 51F5300 is P51,776.441 ($1,199.99). Here, you can get a white unit for only P30K+. Panalo talaga, di hamak na mas mura sa US list price.

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 21, 2013 at 02:31 PM

bigger is better ika nga.

Magastos na philosophy yan sir.

Sa totoo lang, nakakasanayan ang TV size. Pag nasanay ka sa 42, OK na rin. Pero pag ayaw mong sanayin, kahit bumili ka ng 65, one week lang, parang maliit na rin. Bili ka naman ng 75. One week lang, parang maliit na naman. Walang katapusan yan.

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 21, 2013 at 11:00 AM

but i think plasma is not for me.

OK lang yan sir. Both plasma and LED have their own set of problems. It's just a matter of preference either way.

Waxx · « **Reply #311 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 03:24 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 21, 2013 at 03:14 PM

Thanks for the quick reply.

Sabi ko na nga ba e ...

Best selling plasma size is 50 inch. Pero ang available current series Panny plasma dito, wrong size na, wrong model pa, gray pa, late release pa. Best selling 2013 Panny Plasma is 50ST60. Available here, gray 65VT60. No wonder Panny plasma sales are so low.

Ang mahal pa. US list price of 65VT60 is only P142,348.43 ($3,299.99). Ang layo naman ng P230K, gray pa.

In comparison, US list price of Samsung 51F5300 is P51,813.39 ($1,199.99). Here, you can get a white unit for only P30K+. Panalo talaga.

Magastos na philosophy yan sir.

Sa totoo lang, nakakasanayan ang TV size. Pag nasanay ka sa 42, OK na rin. Pero pag ayaw mong sanayin, kahit bumili ka ng 65, one week lang, parang maliit na rin. Bili ka naman ng 75. One week lang, parang maliit na naman. Walang katapusan yan.

actually sa halagang 150-160k ok na sana.. pero maiisip mo, magdadagdag ka ng 40-50k naka 75inch led ka na..

yung size naman, happy ka na sa kung kelan kakayanin ng room mo.. hahahaha pero mukang stop na ako sa 75.. if i need a bigger one, ill just use the pj.. or sell the pj and settle at 103 inch..

pero thats far far far far pa.. like million pesoses far..

revskie · « **Reply #312 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 05:13 PM »

How does the PQ of the VT60 compare to the LED that you are using, brader waxx?

Waxx · « **Reply #313 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 05:23 PM »

Quote from: revskie on Oct 21, 2013 at 05:13 PM

How does the PQ of the VT60 compare to the LED that you are using, brader waxx?

the reason why im letting go of the LED im using is coz of the bad backlight bleeding and vertical banding.. how i wish i didnt read about all of those in AVSforum.. also i started to notice those flaws after using psvita and the samsung galaxy phones with oled screens.. now i quickly get irritated and i always see the flaws on my tv.

as for the pic quality... i didnt spend a lot of time scrutinizing the plasma, all that i noticed was it had more shades of black compared to the LCD beside it.. colors were less vibrant.. coz i adjusted it to movie mode, unlike the LED beside it which was on dynamic mode.

i already exhausted the calibration of my LED... im not happy thats why im letting it go.. if the 75inch led is double the price (400k). i would have gotten the vt60. but economically speaking.. if you had 200k and you have a choice between a 65inch plasma (a dying technology-coz the LED is quickly catching up) and a 75inch above average LED flagship model.. which would you choose?

barrister · « **Reply #314 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 06:58 PM »

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 21, 2013 at 05:23 PM

if you had 200k and you have a choice between a 65inch plasma (a dying technology-coz the LED is quickly catching up) and a 75inch above average LED flagship model.. which would you choose?

If you're particular about picture quality, it has to be a plasma. In a dark room, malayo pa rin ang LED kahit flagship pa yan.

If it's a plasma, get a Sammy 64F8500. 2013's best TV na, mura pa at around P201,800:

http://www.ayosdito.ph/Samsung+Plasma+TV+64inch+PS+64F8500+Smart+3D+TV-6255070.htm

Wag mo nang pansinin yung kesyo dying technology ang plasma. May relevance lang yon sa manufacturer, hindi sa user. Hindi naman parang HD-DVD player yan na pag naging obsolete, wala nang mabiling HD-DVD discs. Kahit nga CRT TV pa yan, mapapanooran mo pa rin.

Kung ako, bibili ako ng plasma ngayon. Pag bibili na ako ng next TV ko, OLED naman.

revskie · « **Reply #315 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 07:18 PM »

Meron sa sulit at P169K.

barrister · « **Reply #316 on:** Oct 21, 2013 at 11:24 PM »

Murang mura pala.

Sobra-sobra ang sukli sa P200K ni sir Waxx kung i-treat niya tayo sa steak dinner...

greatauror28 · « **Reply #317 on:** Oct 22, 2013 at 01:47 AM »

Available ba sa Pinas ang ZT60 series ng panny?

Saw one in FS, grabe. Nahiya ako sa 50" LG plasma ko which I already calibrated with Disney WOW.

Waxx · « **Reply #318 on:** Oct 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM »

kung meron lang 75in na vt60.. tapos na ang usapan...

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #319 on:** Oct 28, 2013 at 08:03 AM »

There are still 42 units of the 65VT60 here in Menifee,
if may abutan ako by next year, probably around March or April,
I'd get one for the new house...

DTNS · « **Reply #320 on:** Oct 28, 2013 at 10:37 AM »

Quote from: Waxx on Oct 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

kung meron lang 75in na vt60.. tapos na ang usapan...

may 85" na plasma ang Panasonic.

http://www.panasonic.com/in/business/professional-display-panels/3d-full-hd-plasma-display/th-85vx200w.html

CMac · « **Reply #321 on:** Oct 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM »

^ im scared to know the price. It's tagged "professional".
But way cool.

DTNS · « **Reply #322 on:** Oct 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM »

Quote from: Setsuko on Oct 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM

^ im scared to know the price. It's tagged "professional".
But way cool.

you'd be scared about its power consumption too.

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #323 on:** Oct 29, 2013 at 04:08 AM »

Just dropped by Best Buy today and asked the manager on the best deal he can give me in the 65VT60,
price is at $2999, on sale now for $2699, but he'll slash off another $200
And if I get the extended warranty, it'll be around $2500,...
And he doubled check may 72 units pa, seems may aabutan pa ako till next year just in case,...

Clondalkin · « **Reply #324 on:** Oct 29, 2013 at 07:06 AM »

Kaya pa pababain depende sa prices ng competitors diba? I saw Amazon dropped their prices to 2,399 until Friday last week. So when I visited Best Buy yesterday and the Magnolia guy told me that their price was 2,499, I asked for price match - he immediately checked Amazon but Amazon was back to 2,700 - hehehe.

Conversely, Amazon will price match but I prefer BB because I can possibly reimburse some of the tax.

Nakakatakot nga lang talaga magpadala sa Manila, although yung description ng crating ng shipper sounds OK. Blaha na.

Quote from: ABCmotorparts on Oct 29, 2013 at 04:08 AM

Just dropped by Best Buy today and asked the manager on the best deal he can give me in the 65VT60,
price is at $2999, on sale now for $2699, but he'll slash off another $200
And if I get the extended warranty, it'll be around $2500,...
And he doubled check may 72 units pa, seems may aabutan pa ako till next year just in case,...

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #325 on:** Oct 29, 2013 at 09:10 AM »

Quote from: Clondalkin on Oct 29, 2013 at 07:06 AM

Kaya pa pababain depende sa prices ng competitors diba? I saw Amazon dropped their prices to 2,399 until Friday last week. So when I visited Best Buy yesterday and the Magnolia guy told me that their price was 2,499, I asked for price match - he immediately checked Amazon but Amazon was back to 2,700 - hehehe.

Conversely, Amazon will price match but I prefer BB because I can possibly reimburse some of the tax.

Nakakatakot nga lang talaga magpadala sa Manila, although yung description ng crating ng shipper sounds OK. Blaha na.

Yes sir, they do price match,...
And hopefully by the time na kukuha na ako ay may sale sana,
or better yet may open box sila for further discount,...

sardaukar · « **Reply #326 on:** Oct 29, 2013 at 09:31 AM »

Check niyo prices on Black Friday. Baka bigla kayong mapabili.

Clondalkin · « **Reply #327 on:** Oct 29, 2013 at 12:39 PM »

2,150 daw price kung meron ng open box na VT60. Kaso taas baba talaga price so dapat bantay Jawo sa trends. 4 weeks back it was as low as 2,299.

Quote from: ABCmotorparts on Oct 29, 2013 at 09:10 AM

Yes sir, they do price match,...
And hopefully by the time na kukuha na ako ay may sale sana,
or better yet may open box sila for further discount,...

barrister · « **Reply #328 on:** Nov 01, 2013 at 02:16 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 10, 2013 at 02:37 PM

How true? Still no official confirmation from Panny. Ilang beses nang lumabas ang issue na ito. But this time, it looks like Panny's plasma exit will push through.

Just as I thought, this time it's real. On October 8, 2013, no confirmation from Panny. On October 31, 2013, Panny officially confirms:

Panasonic officially pulls plug on plasma TV business
posted on Thursday, 31st October 2013 by Steve May

"...Panasonic has finally, officially confirmed that it will close its plasma TV business at the end of this financial year."

http://www.insideci.co.uk/news/panasonic-officially-pulls-plug-on-plasma-tv-business.aspx

TV shoppers: Now is the time to buy a Panasonic plasma
by David Katzmaier
October 31, 2013

The end of an era is official. On March 31, 2014, Panasonic "will end sales of plasma TVs for consumer use and PDP-related products for commercial use," in the company's own words. ...

... Now the most common question I get from readers is, "Should I buy a Panasonic plasma now?" My answer in general is almost always "yes," and now that I know they're going to be extinct soon, it's "YES!"

... Will Samsung continue making plasmas next year? What about LG? I don't know, but my guess is now that Panasonic has pulled out, those two already LCD-centric companies will also abandon the technology soon.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57610230-221/tv-shoppers-now-is-the-time-to-buy-a-panasonic-plasma/

DTNS · « **Reply #329 on:** Nov 01, 2013 at 02:32 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Nov 01, 2013 at 02:16 PM

TV shoppers: Now is the time to buy a Panasonic plasma
by David Katzmaier
October 31, 2013

The end of an era is official. On March 31, 2014, Panasonic "will end sales of plasma TVs for consumer use and PDP-related products for commercial use," in the company's own words. ...

... Now the most common question I get from readers is, "Should I buy a Panasonic plasma now?" My answer in general is almost always "yes," and now that I know they're going to be extinct soon, it's "YES!"

... Will Samsung continue making plasmas next year? What about LG? I don't know, but my guess is now that Panasonic has pulled out, those two already LCD-centric companies will also abandon the technology soon.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57610230-221/tv-shoppers-now-is-the-time-to-buy-a-panasonic-plasma/

sad end of an era.

on a side note, the 50S60 Full HD non-3D model looks like a good bargain!