Topic: Plasma vs LCD ?

[vtec3]

Plasma pa rin 

[danrd]

Saw the 50" 1080p Pioneer KURO with "Dark Knight" bluray preview at Shangrila yesterday. All I can say is  Never seen anything like it. Dissapointing lang ang price for that size. 

[Nemesis91]

Saw the 50" 1080p Pioneer KURO with "Dark Knight" bluray preview at Shangrila yesterday. All I can say is  Never seen anything like it. Dissapointing lang ang price for that size. 

You sould have seen the 50PY800.

[danrd]

You sould have seen the 50PY800.

  Sabi ko na nga eh. Alam ko na kung sino sasagot. Di ko pa nga nakita Sir Jeff. One of these days. 

[vtec3]

Dante parang SARS ulit ito ah  Have seen the PY at work ay naku if only may pambili ako 

[danrd]

Dante parang SARS ulit ito ah  Have seen the PY at work ay naku if only may pambili ako 

Pre ito ang SARS na "definitely" di ko magagamot. Kahit kalahati price difference ng PY vs. KURO, mabigat pa rin. Pero sulit price ni Sir Jeff. 

[vtec3]

yup price is really the big issue, a lot more than my disposable income  yung price ng isang PY or Kuro price na ng dalawa PV8    pero as i said if money is not an issue matagal ko na nabili ito  ibang iba itong Plasma na ito as compared to a full HD 50" Samsung LCD 

[barrister]

Plasma pa rin 

I remember that you thought long and hard about several LCD models, then eventually ended up with a plasma, tama ba?

[vtec3]

I remember that you thought long and hard about several LCD models, then eventually ended up with a plasma, tama ba?

Yup and good thing I ended up buying a Plasma  Thanks too sa mga inputs that i got from your post. Very very helpful and very very informative!

[ninjababez®]

Yup and good thing I ended up buying a Plasma  Thanks too sa mga inputs that i got from your post. Very very helpful and very very informative!

marami na atang naimpluwensyahan yan si barrister eh .. 
ako talagang ingget whenever im watching movies at my friends place (plasma user) ...
tapos when i get home to watch the same .mkv movie .. hay parang may kulang .. 

[kicx_zippinbud]

plasma kase ive noticed sandali lang life span nun kesa sa lcd however mas ok talaga ang plasma when it comes to pq basta iwas glare or sinag araw / ilaw

[Mouldingo]

plasma kase ive noticed sandali lang life span nun kesa sa lcd however mas ok talaga ang plasma when it comes to pq basta iwas glare or sinag araw / ilaw

Plasma TV life span expectancy has long been a hot topic and rightly so. Most early plasma monitor models from 1999 and early 2000 have already been delivered to the electronics graveyard. Manufacturers were doing well to deliver a plasma product that fired up. An early adaptor could purchase a plasma TV that was 6" in depth, was hot enough to fry an egg on, and had fans that sounded like it was going to take off and fly through the roof - all for a modest $10,000.

However, improvements in the longevity of plasma TVs and displays have been rapidly effective. The green phosphors are claimed by some manufacturers as the reason behind the incredible increase. Lower power usage and motion adaptive anti burn-in technology are also contributors.

In fact, many plasma manufacturers boast a life span of 60,000 hours to half life! This is a longer life than a tube based television. The specification is somewhat suspect since the process of determining longevity of the product is based on deductive mathematical calculation of phosphor dissipation, and does not take into account the electronic components and the myriad of problems that can occur. Panasonic was the first to claim the 60,000 hour life span, up from a previous 30,000 just a year prior.

Within months after Panasonic announced this new life span, other manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon announcing that their plasma television is now rated to 60,000.

For consumer use these numbers should be comforting. Plasma Displays are now about equivalent in longevity to LCDs, which typically state 60,000 hours. Consider that these figures are a great amount more than old CRTs, which regularly post life span to half brightness at 25,000 hours. Let's put these hours in perspective. The average U.S. household watches 4 to 6 hours of television per day. Taking a mean time manufacturer stated longevity of 50,000 hours of usage, times our average 5 hours per day, calculates to over 27 years of usage.

http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/plasmatv/plasmatv-lifespan.html

[ninjababez®]

plasma kase ive noticed sandali lang life span nun kesa sa lcd however mas ok talaga ang plasma when it comes to pq basta iwas glare or sinag araw / ilaw

ok lang yan kicx .. in a year or two, im pretty sure we will be knocking at jeff's door, ordering a new HDTV .. hahaha

[Nemesis91]

Plasma now 2008 100,000 hours

LCD 60,000 hours.

[popoyextreme]

aanhin pa ang damo kung patay na ang kabayo!

[alvinh]

Plasma now 2008 100,000 hours

LCD 60,000 hours.

100,000 hours/8 hours a day viewing which is beyond conservative= 12,500 days/365 = 34 years 
IMO, as long as there are plasma lovers and the manufacturers continue to believe in what the market is screaming out, it will be here for a long while.
Our only worry then is when or if the big players decide to pull the plug...practically what happened to HD DVD. Highly unlikely I think for plasma.

Saw the 50" 1080p Pioneer KURO with "Dark Knight" bluray preview at Shangrila yesterday. All I can say is  Never seen anything like it. Dissapointing lang ang price for that size. 

Price na lang talaga. If they make it a little bit more affordable pa, no question...this is the one to get.

[surg]

Marketing strategy really can make or break a product. customers are very much influenced by salesmen and sadly, most salesmen pushed lcd over plasma due to ignorance. In provinces especially, plasma tvs are almost unknown even to educated professionals

[ninjababez®]

Marketing strategy really can make or break a product. customers are very much influenced by salesmen and sadly, most salesmen pushed lcd over plasma due to ignorance. In provinces especially, plasma tvs are almost unknown even to educated professionals

well thats the sad reality bro ..

[surg]

my friends who owned lcd tvs laughed and advise me not to get a plasma coz "laos na daw"

[oReOsHaKe]

my friends who owned lcd tvs laughed and advise me not to get a plasma coz "laos na daw"

sour-graping maybe because they can't afford Plasma TV..    For me a dedicated HT will never be complete if you don't have a Plasma TV in it.. But then again it is really your own preference and will depend on many factors foremost of which is your financial capability.. 

[frozone11]

As in any industry, it's always a game of one-upmanship.  Until a new technology comes along that will seriously give plasmas and LCDs a run for their money (OLED, anyone?), these two will still be around in the years to come. 

Me? I'm still happy with my LCD.   

[kenkkk]

opinion ko plasma padin.... diko alam kung bias ako kase plasma kinuha ko hehe
picture quality and deep blacks... plasma da best! hehe

[oReOsHaKe]

Wala naman talga tatalo sa Plasma in terms of PQ.. Gold standard pa rin yan ever since.. But then again Plasma will really be good in really dark rooms..

[surg]

sour-graping maybe because they can't afford Plasma TV..    For me a dedicated HT will never be complete if you don't have a Plasma TV in it.. But then again it is really your own preference and will depend on many factors foremost of which is your financial capability.. 

sorry but I beg to disagree that they can't afford a plasma coz plasma tvs are cheaper compared to lcd. I think it all boils down to marketing strategy and lack of adequate info dissemnation that's why plasma suffers in sales compared to lcd

[oReOsHaKe]

sorry but I beg to disagree that they can't afford a plasma coz plasma tvs are cheaper compared to lcd. I think it all boils down to marketing strategy and lack of adequate info dissemnation that's why plasma suffers in sales compared to lcd

I guess barrister already explained it why plasma suffered in sales compared to lcd in the past few years.. Well I cant explain why they go for LCD if they can afford plasma tv.  There are disadvantages and advantages for both and maybe this is the reason why.  The main reason I'll go for the Plasma is because of the superb PQ and because I intend to use it in mainly in a dark room. 

[Nemesis91]

I've been in this industry for quite sometime and all i can say is plasma is still prefered by my friends and clients. LCD will remain 2nd until they have perfected thier black levels and angle problem.

parang picture tube vs rear projectors dati.......
now naman plasma vs lcd.

[vtec3]

sa tingin ko little by little dadami din dito sa atin ang gagamit ng Plasma because of a lot of happy users. look at this forum na lang, if somebody will start a thread/poll kung alin ang mas preferred or gamit nila, malamang manalo dito ang Plasma 

[surg]

yup for those knowledgeable or who did their research. but sadly, majority just rely on the salesman

[ericag_ph]

Well, I did my research, and still chose the much more expensive LCD with no regrets whatsoever.

I clearly saw burn-in on a plasma TV first hand (Hitachi) despite the claims that it had anti-burn-in features.
I saw a dead pixel on an LCD first hand.  Between the two, I can live with a dead pixel, but not the burn-in.

As far as PQ is concerned, once you calibrate your LCD properly, it will be just as satisfying as a plasma TV.
Plus I won't have to worry about prolonged watching of 4:3 on an LCD as compared to a Plasma.

I don't have any angle problems on an LCD. 
I can easily tilt the TV with a finger to my direction --duh  ,
and if I don't want to do that, I can still view good quality even at an angle of 178 degrees.
If its that last "2" degrees people are complaining about...that isn't even noticeable in real life.

Besides, I think it is obvious that LCDs are clearly the more reliable technology.
It is is used on the millions of laptops today, and not plasma technology.   

To understand why people buy LCD...well, what is the criteria that people use?
- Reliability/quality (I wouldnt want to spend 100K-200K only to see it conk out within a year)
- Picture quality (really, at HD quality, all I can say is WOW, it is really hard trying to find something I don't like about it - LCD)
- Price (LCD users don't mind spending more for proven technology)
- The balance between pros- and -cons

And what most of LCD users think, is that Plasma is cheaper, just like the rear projection TV, because it is outgoing technology.
That alone, will scare a buyer into plunging $$$ on a Plasma.  Never mind if it is or not, its what the buyer believes at the end of the day.

[Bolshoie]

Wait Im confused,di ba mas mahal ang plasma technology kaysa LCD?