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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1290 on: Oct 18, 2011 at 07:54 PM »
never had problems with my previous panasonic plasma tvs.
2 years ko rin wallmounted yung PV80 ko wala naman problema sa init, kasi mainit yung room to begin with  ;D ;D
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« Reply #1291 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 12:21 PM »
after reading this very interesting thread, gusto ko lang magtanung.

I was eyeing on Pana 42x30 plasma for P25k, and I'll be using the TV for movies, gaming (PS3) and cable tv
Exclude the power consumption; would it be a good choice?

Durability, heat dissipation and IR, what can you say about it?

Assuming I have it in my room and with no aircon

Your thoughts?


Durability - no problem.

IR - no problem.

Heat - depends on the model.  Look at the power consumption.  The higher the power consumption, the hotter it can get.  42X30 is good; no heat issues.


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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1292 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 01:55 PM »
Sabi ng kaibigan ko mas mura na daw ang plasma ngayon over LCD/LED? Meron daw sa mga appliance stores. Is this true?


Ang sabi naman ng mga salesmen ng mga appliance stores eh phase out technology na ang plasma kaya mura nalang.  :P

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1293 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 02:35 PM »
Ang sabi naman ng mga salesmen ng mga appliance stores eh phase out technology na ang plasma kaya mura nalang.  :P

Yan ang madalas na sales pitch na naririnig ko sa mga appliances shops,...

I often end up answering back,...  :P

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1294 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 02:44 PM »
Dati nang mas mura ang plasma on a per inch diagonal basis diba?  Hindi nga lang nila magawang paliitin ang plasma below 37 inches.

And then halos wala nang significant change sa 720p models since 2007 except for more and more shiny panels and less and less speaker system.

I think kaya mura ang plasma kasi it started a lot bigger than LCD.   Anyone ever saw a pocket calculator or Seiko Quartz made of plasma panel?
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1295 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 07:00 PM »
Plasma hands down (PQ,blacks,skin tones, money per inch).. Sa backlight bleeding pa lang (clouding), turn off na sa led lit lcds. Plasma should never be compared to lcds coz it's like comparing apples to oranges. IMHO, we should compare different models of plasma to other plasmas only and lcds to other lcds only.

Also, power consumption of plasma is overrated.. It's only like 50-150 pesos difference monthly compared to same size lcd. Try playing sd content on lcd and plasma with same resolution. As far as my eyes can see, you'll never go back to lcd once u tried plasma.. peace  :D :D :D

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« Reply #1296 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 08:19 PM »
Definitely plasma! 1st time plasma user here been an LCD fan for a long time, after setting up my plasma to check the PQ I got so pissed! You know why? Because I questioned my self why didn't I get a plasma before and opted for an LCD.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1297 on: Oct 19, 2011 at 08:35 PM »
And then halos wala nang significant change sa 720p models since 2007 except for more and more shiny panels and less and less speaker system.
lower power consumption  :)
IIRC older 42PV8 measured around 220+/- watts average, while newer 50x20 180+/- watts average.
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1298 on: Oct 21, 2011 at 10:22 AM »
Definitely plasma! 1st time plasma user here been an LCD fan for a long time, after setting up my plasma to check the PQ I got so pissed! You know why? Because I questioned my self why didn't I get a plasma before and opted for an LCD.

LG 42PW350 for gaming ok po ba?
especially pc gaming po!
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1299 on: Oct 28, 2011 at 07:48 PM »
Casual viewing in a well-lit room, I have no problems with LCD. It's cheap, and you can get <42" panels.
But when your eyes turn critical in a dark room, nothing beats a big plasma. Well, maybe CRTs provided they can produce a 50-65in lightweight CRT. I find CRTs a lot better than LCDs. Seriously.   

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1300 on: Oct 30, 2011 at 07:34 AM »
You will never go wrong if you choose Plasma, iba talaga. :D :D The picture quality of awesome,
when you compare it to LCD, kaya nga na dispose ko agad yung LCD at lipat sa  plasma
 :D :D :D
if you watched movies in long hours, kailangan mo na ng visine kapag sa LCD tv, sa Plasma
hindi ma irritate mata mo. :D  I just finished watching Knowing, Unstoppable and faces in the crowd
marathon yan. :D  swabe!!

Electricity consumption for plasma is non-issue, it's like  a myth :o, maliit lang naman ang additional
electric cost.
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1301 on: Oct 30, 2011 at 07:54 AM »
after reading this very interesting thread, gusto ko lang magtanung.

I was eyeing on Pana 42x30 plasma for P25k, and I'll be using the TV for movies, gaming (PS3) and cable tv
Exclude the power consumption; would it be a good choice?

Durability, heat dissipation and IR, what can you say about it?

Assuming I have it in my room and with no aircon

Your thoughts?
You don't need to buy aircon if you choose plasma :D. :D :D :D pana 42x20 gamit ko, hindi naman sya mainit at normal lang naman basta maganda yung ventillation mo.    Bili na!!! hindi ka magsisisi.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1302 on: Nov 07, 2011 at 11:00 PM »
Panasonic Plasma Insider's Thread - 2012 Edition :

http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthread.php?11865-Panasonic-Plasma-Insider-s-Thread-2012-Edition

No specifics, just vague hints. But it looks like 2012 will be a good year for panny.  New frame designs, new driving scheme.  Insider avjunkie says:

ok lets hint this answer now. its nov and darth cardo needs a thrill haha.. driving scheme for 2012...wait for it.. we will have a new driving scheme for our 2012 line.in addition to many new advancements in the panel. filter. etc..its all brand new!! not tweaked!! and it looks stunning.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1303 on: Nov 07, 2011 at 11:53 PM »
Panasonic Plasma Insider's Thread - 2012 Edition :

http://www.highdefjunkies.com/showthread.php?11865-Panasonic-Plasma-Insider-s-Thread-2012-Edition

No specifics, just vague hints. But it looks like 2012 will be a good year for panny.  New frame designs, new driving scheme.  Insider avjunkie says:

ok lets hint this answer now. its nov and darth cardo needs a thrill haha.. driving scheme for 2012...wait for it.. we will have a new driving scheme for our 2012 line.in addition to many new advancements in the panel. filter. etc..its all brand new!! not tweaked!! and it looks stunning.
this is very good news  :D
sana lower price for 60" plasma  ;D
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1304 on: Nov 08, 2011 at 10:57 AM »
Dapat talaga lower prices, kasi delikado sila sa Samsung.  Gusto yata ng Samsung sulutin yung mga lower end plasma ng Panny.

Pero reduced production ang Panny sa 2012 kasi nalulugi daw ang TV division nila.

http://www.slashgear.com/panasonic-predicts-5-4bn-losses-axes-plasma-plans-31191974/

Maybe fewer models and production numbers.  Good thing the new models are already in the works and will be shown at the Jan. 2012 CES, according to the insider.
  
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1305 on: Nov 08, 2011 at 05:01 PM »
di ko alam kung matutuwa ako or kakabahan sa balita mo bro barrister  ;D
wag lang sana mawala ang panasonice sa plasma playing field  :)
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1306 on: Nov 12, 2011 at 11:07 PM »

Need your opinions which is better between the two. I'll be putting the tv in a condo and parerentahan ko sya so which is better between an lcd(32" lcd) or plasma panel (pana 42x30).

Ano mas durable since hindi naman ako gagamit baka kasi pagplasma magkaroon ng burn in kung gamitin ng tenant sa games or monitor sa computer.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1307 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 01:44 AM »
Having recently purchased a plasma Samsung 51d550 and a Samsung LCD 40d550. I'd choose LCD, and here's why:

Plasma
-image retention still happens, I needed to run scrolling bars for an hour just to remove black bars from watching 2:35 scale blu rays.
- new unit, 33 hours in, suddenly lost its picture (never happened to 6 previous LCD tvs we still have, Samsung, Sony and toshiba brands.
-replacement unit had brightness pop

LCD old Samsung
-vertical bands appeared playing 360 games



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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1308 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 08:28 AM »
Sorry to hear about the black bars.  I've not had this problem in the 1 year we've had our plasma.  Could Samsung's design be not as mature as Panasonic's?  The worry over retention problems was one reason we bought LCDs for the rooms.  The plasma's PQ is so much greater than the old CRT TVs we had in our rooms so they would always insist on using it.  Still, IMHO, LCD/LED can't beat plasma.  However plasma does need extra care and does cost more in the long run due its higher power consumption and possibly shorter lifetime.  There really is no such thing really as a free ride.
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1309 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 09:20 AM »
that's why i chose a plasma over lcd. i have 3 plasma tvs at home. 42x10, 50x30 and 65vt30. loving them all. haha.
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1310 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 10:11 AM »
Am always surprised to read about image retention in some plasma TV's nowadays cause in the 4 years I've owned a plasma TV, I have never encountered image retention. I play PS3 games on them too.

I go for plasma. It's no contest actually. I also have a couple of LCD's. I put those on the kids' rooms.

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1311 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM »
Weakness na ng plasma talaga ang IR,
no matter what brand, no matter what model,
characteristic na nya yun, pero it won't stop me from
buying a plasma again, I will never buy an LCD/LED,
I love the picture quality ng plasma no matter what (lalo ang Viera or a Kuro..)

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1312 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 11:32 AM »
I like the passive 3D tech of LED/LCD LG and reasonably priced pa.

I like the IQ of the top of the line LED/LCD Sharp and Sony.  Quite amazing actually - kaya lang mas mahal than top of the line Panasonic plasma.

Our 18 month-old Panasonic 50V2 still amazes me and my wife.  It's really beautiful under all lighting and viewing conditions and whatever content you throw at it.  Yeah it has IR, but no big deal - ignore ignore.

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« Reply #1313 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 12:08 PM »
Weakness na ng plasma talaga ang IR,
no matter what brand, no matter what model,
characteristic na nya yun,

That's what I thought before I bought any flat screen TV. I got a 428XG Pioneer 4 years ago, set the anti IR feature called orbital on and that's it - absolutely no IR whatsoever, even when playing PS3 games for hours on end. Same deal with the KRP500 Pioneer that I recently got. Also I've read reviews of other plasma brands a few years back that gave me the impression that IR has been generally licked. It appears though that some manufacturers have been more successful than others in resolving the IR problem.   
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1314 on: Nov 13, 2011 at 01:32 PM »
All our Panasonic plasmas (v10, s10 and c10) do get IR, but I quickly got used to it. It gets mostly flushed away with normal use, anyway. If you look for it, you'd find it. All had exhibited some black level rise, but we've learned to keep it manageable through appropriate picture settings. The plasma advantages of good colors, motion resolution and viewing angle are still there. Keeping frame doubling enabled also minimizes my eyestrain from the inherent plasma flickering (I acknowledge that very few people are sensitive to this).

We also have a couple of LCDs (panny u20 and samsung b550) that do their jobs well. SD content obviously don't look as good as the V10 in these TVs, and I think that's more because of the poor scalers in lower end TVs than the fact that they're LCD TVs (the C10 and S10 also don't do very well with SD). Static contrast and motion resolution aren't as great, but they kinda make up for it with excellent image sharpness. The viewing angles are surprisingly quite good too (a lot better than older LCD TVs). I like the fact that the screen doesn't flicker with whatever material I feed it. We're also fortunate that both models don't have noticeable uniformity issues.

I can comfortably say that I can live with either technology. The same way that I could live with a diesel-fed or a petrol-fed vehicle. They both have their ups and downs.

The current flagship LED-lit LCDs offer amazing PQ, imho. It's not just because of panel advancements, but also because they are equipped with the best processors. If money was no object, I'd probably go with one of those.

On the other hand, with my limited budget, entry level to midlevel LCDs and Plasmas suit me just fine.
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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1315 on: Jan 02, 2012 at 06:14 PM »

Sony Sells LCD Venture Stake to Samsung After Losses
December 27, 2011

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-27/sony-sells-lcd-venture-stake-to-samsung-after-losses.html
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« Reply #1317 on: Jan 11, 2012 at 10:19 AM »
Sony Sells LCD Venture Stake to Samsung After Losses
December 27, 2011

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2011-12-27/sony-sells-lcd-venture-stake-to-samsung-after-losses.html

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Re: Plasma vs LCD ?
« Reply #1318 on: Jan 11, 2012 at 06:16 PM »
Plasma is the best, guaranteed!!!   and i will never buy LCD or LED  :D :D :D

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« Reply #1319 on: Jan 11, 2012 at 06:33 PM »
Plasma is the best, guaranteed!!!   and i will never buy LCD or LED  :D :D :D

+1 ako dito.. for almost 3 months ako nag suffer sa backlight bleeding, halos tuwing manonood ako ng movie eh yung bleeding na lang tinitingnan ko sa LED ko.. hahaha, nakatatlong unit ako.. from 32D4003 to 32D4000 talagang meron bleeding.. sa plasma kahit hindi FullHD talagang black is black.. uniformity ng screen kapag blank eh 100%.. gone are those sleepless nights.. hopefully hindi ko naman maranasan yung sinasabing "floating blacks" at kung meron man ayoko ng hanapin.. hehehe ignorance is a bliss.. mahirap pa yung marami kang nalalaman.. just my two cents.. yun lang power hungry ang plasma..
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