Author Topic: DVD-R Media Quality and Compatibility (Read 84792 times)

barrister · « **Reply #210 on:** Mar 23, 2006 at 02:10 PM »

PHILIPS DVD-R (from CDR King)

Manufacturer - CMC
Media code - CMC MAG. AE1
Physical description - Silver with violet print
Max. burn speed - 8x; Actually burned at 8x
Nero CD-DVD Speed ScanDisc Test - No read errors
Test platforms - Lite-On SOHD 16P9SV and Pioneer 270 standalone

Notes: Spec printed on the disc is "1-8x"; yet my Lite-on SOHW-1653S writer indicates max speed as "12x"

Lennon · « **Reply #211 on:** Mar 23, 2006 at 04:29 PM »

Question, accurate ba yung pag-check if i use software that checks md5s and hashes to verify the data burned on a disc (e.g. DVDSig, CD Check, etc.)? Napapansin ko kasi laging may incorrect hash pag ginamit ko ang mga 'to to verify data integrity on a disc. mga AVIs usually ang binuburn ko. pero wala naman error habang binuburn.

snapy · « **Reply #212 on:** Mar 23, 2006 at 06:23 PM »

Question lang mga tsiong.. bakit puros product na lng ng cdrking ang binibigyan natin ng review..
wla na bang ibang dvd na galing sa ibang shops? pls post naman ibang dvd
malay mo maganda din ung iba.. kahit papano cheap..

Alfie · « **Reply #213 on:** May 10, 2006 at 06:49 PM »

CDR-King seemingly is flooded with alot of Ridata DVD-R this days, they even have the printable going for only 18Php.

jerix · « **Reply #214 on:** May 11, 2006 at 04:06 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Mar 23, 2006 at 02:10 PM

PHILIPS DVD-R (from CDR King)

Manufacturer - CMC
Media code - CMC MAG. AE1
Physical description - Silver with violet print
Max. burn speed - 8x; Actually burned at 8x
Nero CD-DVD Speed ScanDisc Test - No read errors
Test platforms - Lite-On SOHD 16P9SV and Pioneer 270 standalone

Notes: Spec printed on the disc is "1-8x"; yet my Lite-on SOHW-1653S writer indicates max speed as "12x"

My Toshiba SDR 5372 used to love this but not anymore $:-\$

snapy · « **Reply #215 on:** May 12, 2006 at 05:37 PM »

Quote from: Alfie on May 10, 2006 at 06:49 PM

CDR-King seemingly is flooded with alot of Ridata DVD-R this days, they even have the printable going for only 18Php.

i guess may quota sila dyan.. or official distributor talaga sila nito..

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #216 on:** May 12, 2006 at 05:48 PM »

Quote from: jerix on May 11, 2006 at 04:06 PM

My Toshiba SDR 5372 used to love this but not anymore $:-\$

is it a drive issue or did philips change manufacturers? i noticed that HP, philips and iomega all use CMC as their manufacturer for dvd-r's.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #217 on:** May 12, 2006 at 05:48 PM »

Quote from: Alfie on May 10, 2006 at 06:49 PM

CDR-King seemingly is flooded with alot of Ridata DVD-R this days, they even have the printable going for only 18Php.

my lite-on seems to love these ritek dvd-r and dvd+r media.

barrister · « **Reply #218 on:** May 12, 2006 at 10:52 PM »

My Lite-on loves Riteks, too.

However, I had to switch to other brands because readability on standalone players is inconsistent.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #219 on:** May 13, 2006 at 12:20 AM »

Quote from: barrister on May 12, 2006 at 10:52 PM

My Lite-on loves Riteks, too.

However, I had to switch to other brands because readability on standalone players is inconsistent.

strange... i've never had problems with mine. of course, if it's an archive... i never burn faster than 6x.

still, no ritek coasters or faulty reads on standalone players... so far. $:-\$

hubes · « **Reply #220 on:** Jun 12, 2006 at 11:38 AM »

Anyone tried Vio DVD-R 8x from cdr king? bought 20 pcs and works fine so far. 9 pesos/pc only.

snapy · « **Reply #221 on:** Jun 12, 2006 at 07:37 PM »

Quote from: hubes on Jun 12, 2006 at 11:38 AM

Anyone tried Vio DVD-R 8x from cdr king? bought 20 pcs and works fine so far. 9 pesos/pc only.

Vio ang brand ng DVD? never heard from that one..

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #222 on:** Jun 13, 2006 at 07:36 PM »

^^ just bought a few of these... yup 9 bucks a piece and selling fast... barely a week since delivery, 600 pieces has dwindled to it's final hundred.

and apparently... "it's a sony"...

from nero cd-dvd speed:

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Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : SONY08D1
Write speeds: : 4 X - 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4488 MB
: 4706076672 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Copyright protection : n/a
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0E 10 87 88 80 00 - [email protected].........
0010 - 03 53 4F 4E 59 30 38 00 04 44 31 00 00 00 00 00 - .SONY08..D1.....
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 E0 D4 05 00 18 EE 90 7C - ...............|
0030 - 78 FB 90 7C FF FF FF FF 71 FB 90 7C 18 6A DD 77 - x..|....q..|.j.w
0040 - 51 6A DD 77 00 00 15 00 02 00 00 80 30 00 00 00 - Qj.w........0...
0050 - 18 00 00 00 30 00 00 00 18 D5 05 00 40 00 01 00 - ....0.......@...
0060 - 0B 00 00 00 20 D4 05 00 4E 00 4E 00 98 D5 05 00 - ........N.N.....

Battousai · « **Reply #223 on:** Jun 13, 2006 at 10:40 PM »

Medyo OT, pero I was able to get a bootleg Naruto movie that was burned into this "Vio" DVD-R and it played flawlessly, even if the burn was almost near the edge of the allowed burn area. Comparing these with other anime DVD-Rs I've bought, wala man lang palya tiong pag play nitong "Vio" media.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #224 on:** Jun 14, 2006 at 02:35 AM »

^^ dang! you're makin me wish i bought more.

LOL. that's great! any chance kaya we can find out what burned it? was the content burned as DVD-Video? TIA.

snapy · « **Reply #225 on:** Jun 14, 2006 at 07:49 AM »

can somebody put screen shots dito.. para makita namin kung ano itsura?

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #226 on:** Jun 14, 2006 at 08:07 AM »

^^

nothing to see even with a screenshot... it's pure white with the words "ViO" (yes. small case italics yung "i") and "DVD-R8X" in the center ring.

hubes · « **Reply #227 on:** Jun 15, 2006 at 01:08 AM »

i went to cdr king megamall. wanted to buy some more vio but wala na. meron sila Rowan ang pangalan, same white color like the Vio. bought some and burnt one pc. same daw as Vio acc. to saleslady. 9 pesos each din.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #228 on:** Jun 15, 2006 at 06:44 AM »

any chance you can post who manufactured "rowan"? sony rin kaya?

i'm hoping may maabutan pa ako sa CDR-King Outlets near our place (there are 3 or 4 na ata.) maybe 5 or 10 na para lang mapuno yung empty cakebox ko. LOL.

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #229 on:** Jun 16, 2006 at 04:34 PM »

i went back to CD-R King today... and sadly, only 7 pieces of ViO 8x DVD-Rs were left... only 4 of which were "decent" (not pristine... pero kinuha ko na rin. sayang eh.)

they do, however, have new ViO 8x DVD+Rs... i bought 11 pieces... trial lang... unfortunately, hindi na siya sony .. Daxon na. (altho... daxon din ata gumagawa nung sony discs... not 100% sure about this tho.) anyway... here's what nero gave me.

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Basic Information
Disc Type: : DVD+R
Book Type : DVD+R
Manufacturer: : Daxon
MID : DAXON AZ2 (000)
Write speeds: : 6 X - 8 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4482 MB
: 4700375040 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Write strategies : 4 X - 8 X
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F 00 00 00 00 - .........&.?....
0010 - 00 00 03 44 41 58 4F 4E 00 00 00 41 5A 32 00 38 - ...DAXON...AZ2.8
0020 - 23 54 37 11 00 56 71 00 BE 6B 15 15 0B 0B 08 08 - #T7..Vq..k......
0030 - 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................
0040 - 01 00 38 38 00 29 60 38 06 30 22 10 08 20 1C 01 - ..88.)`8.0".....
0050 - 00 00 00 29 60 38 06 30 22 10 08 20 1C 01 00 00 - ...)`8.0".......
0060 - 02 00 54 70 02 40 64 4A 22 15 0A 09 01 20 00 00 - ..Tp.@dJ".......
0070 - 00 00 02 51 64 46 22 14 08 08 01 20 00 00 00 28 - ...QdF"........(

qball · « **Reply #230 on:** Jun 16, 2006 at 05:31 PM »

Below is the scan of the "rowan" dvd-r, scanned the disc with a benq 1640 and you would notice na pwede sya hanggang 16x. I have tried to scan it with benq's qsuite and ok ang pag write nya on 8x speed.

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Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Basic Information
Disc type: : DVD-R
Book Type : DVD-R
Manufacturer: : unknown
MID : SONY08D1
Write speeds: : 2.4 X - 4 X - 8 X - 12 X - 16 X
Blank Capacity : 4.38 GB
: 4489 MB
: 4707321856 bytes
Extended Information
Layers : 1
Usage : General
Recorder information
Disc Status : Empty
Raw Data
Pre-recorded Information in Lead-in (0Eh)
0000 - 01 40 C1 FD 9E D8 52 00 02 85 0E 10 87 88 80 00 - [email protected].........
0010 - 03 53 4F 4E 59 30 38 00 04 44 31 00 00 00 00 00 - .SONY08..D1.....
0020 - 05 88 80 00 00 00 01 00 E4 70 05 00 35 8E 41 77 - .........p..5.Aw
0030 - 04 00 00 00 DC 70 05 00 10 C0 D4 77 00 80 00 00 - .....p.....w....
0040 - FC 70 05 00 55 3F 41 77 00 80 00 00 86 03 7B 00 - .p..U?Aw......{.
0050 - FC FF FF FF 00 00 00 00 28 71 05 00 00 00 15 00 - ........(q......
0060 - 32 07 91 7C 0B 00 00 00 98 08 15 00 00 00 15 00 - 2..|............

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #231 on:** Jun 16, 2006 at 05:46 PM »

^^

maganda rin pala... i asked the saleslady about rowan, and she seemed clueless about it. i guess their stocks of it hasn't reached them yet. sayang nga eh. i wanted to try it too.

qball · « **Reply #232 on:** Jun 16, 2006 at 05:54 PM »

i was looking for the "vio" brand first kaso wala ng stock and pinakita sa akin nung saleslady yung "rowan". hesitant ako nung una so i only got 10 pieces, tapos ok pala, sana meron pa pagbalik ko

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #233 on:** Jun 16, 2006 at 06:21 PM »

^^

let us know if you succesfully burn at 16x... i've never tried it... heh heh.

qball · « **Reply #234 on:** Jun 16, 2006 at 11:28 PM »

i tried to scan it with qsuite and it is not possible to write at that speeds without having errors. but i have successful burns at 8x speeds at 16x medias compared to 8x ones (i'm talking about those dvdrs that are P12 below).

dta · « **Reply #235 on:** Jun 25, 2006 at 11:56 PM »

Sorry, if medyo not related to the topic at hand...

But why do more people use DVD-R media? I thought that DVD+R is supposed to be the better media (albeit slightly only) compared to DVD-R?

So far I've been trying to use DVD+R media mostly (I bought a few DVD-R but haven't been using those types lately).

Is it because DVD-R is supposed to be more compatible with set-top DVD players than DVD+R disks?

~~~~~

BTW, aside from CDR-King, there's also a new CD/DVD blank media shop called Datamax (the one I saw is in SM San Lazaro), their prices are quite competitive with CDR-King's too. They have the "Titanium ("Made by Imation") DVD-R 8x, costs Php18.00 and also "Imation i-Pro" DVD-R 16x @Php18.00 too. Haven't tried burning them yet (I bought a couple of pcs only).

SPaCeMaN SPiFF · « **Reply #236 on:** Jun 26, 2006 at 01:32 AM »

Quote from: dta on Jun 25, 2006 at 11:56 PM

Is it because DVD-R is supposed to be more compatible with set-top DVD players than DVD+R disks?

yes... that's one of the primary reasons. dvd-rs are more compatible with most set-top dvd players.

i know there was a thread somewhere where firewired himself explained the technical differences between the +R and -R formats (could even be this one. LOL.)... might want to check that out.

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BTW, aside from CDR-King, there's also a new CD/DVD blank media shop called Datamax (the one I saw is in SM San Lazaro), their prices are quite competitive with CDR-King's too. They have the "Titanium ("Made by Imation") DVD-R 8x, costs Php18.00 and also "Imation i-Pro" DVD-R 16x @Php18.00 too. Haven't tried burning them yet (I bought a couple of pcs only).

yup... saw them too... i wanted to go in and check but i was in a bit of a rush and i had already bought what i needed at CD-R King. maybe when i go there next time, i can check it out. would you happen to know if they have dual layer media?

barrid · « **Reply #237 on:** Jun 26, 2006 at 03:51 AM »

Though, I also use Maxell +RW . Two of my players can't play it. And two disc from a bulk of 15 are defective.

But hasn't encountered any problems with my 40 different brand -RWs.

BTW, Are there any -R DL available? +R DL pa lang kasi ang napapansin ko.

Alfie · « **Reply #238 on:** Jun 28, 2006 at 10:28 AM »

Yun' Vio...Rowan sa CDR KIng sa Katipunan...Marvo sa Gilmore..at SONY08D1....burn sa 8x...walang mintis..galing.

OT; may bagong CDR King na bukas sa Broadway Centrum Cybertown same prices, at mayroon nang
1) 8 discs DVD cases transparent at 15 Php
2) 6 discs DVD cases black at 8 Php
3) 4 discs DVD cases black at 8 Php

Ok na OK ito' para sa mga na split (DVDFAB) titles natin.

snapy · « **Reply #239 on:** Jun 28, 2006 at 03:00 PM »

eh ung garfield na dvd.. may nakatry na nito?