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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2940 on: Jul 30, 2008 at 07:01 PM »
thanks mikken...

will both the denon 1909 and yamaha 663 have pre-outs? onkyo 606 yata alang pre-out eh

663 has pre-outs.

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2941 on: Jul 31, 2008 at 01:02 PM »
thanks mikken...

will both the denon 1909 and yamaha 663 have pre-outs? onkyo 606 yata alang pre-out eh

Only Yamaha RX-V663 has pre-outs.  It seems from my reading of the specs that Denon 1909 has no pre-outs.  Check their specs here:  http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567571&CTID=5000300, http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/4241.asp

Onkyo 606 doesn't have pre-outs too.

The Yamaha V663 has been available first quarter of this year in other countries.  It would be a cheaper alternative to the best-selling entry-level Onkyo 605/606 if decoding lossless audio format is the deciding factor.

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2942 on: Jul 31, 2008 at 03:38 PM »
if that is so...the pre-outs of the 663 would be a real plus. other brands provide pre-outs for the mid-end with prices starting over 35K. kaya oks din yamaha e...

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2943 on: Jul 31, 2008 at 04:49 PM »
mayron din iba brands that has pre-outs for less than 20k but for me I like Yamaha better  ;D

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2944 on: Aug 01, 2008 at 02:07 PM »
oo nga meron ba?

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2945 on: Aug 01, 2008 at 05:53 PM »
yup mayron, sa 5th avenue may receiver less than 20k na may pre-outs, hindi nga lang Yamaha ang tatak  ;D

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2946 on: Aug 04, 2008 at 12:04 AM »
what can you say about yamaha RX-V463BL??..

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2947 on: Aug 12, 2008 at 10:35 AM »
may VRS na ang yamaha... saka multiple positions na ang YPAO  ;D ;D ;D

lookie lookie:

http://www.newhivi.com/news_html/2008-8-9/_2469.htm

ang tanong, magkano kaya? hihihi

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2948 on: Aug 12, 2008 at 06:11 PM »
may VRS na ang yamaha... saka multiple positions na ang YPAO  ;D ;D ;D

lookie lookie:

http://www.newhivi.com/news_html/2008-8-9/_2469.htm

ang tanong, magkano kaya? hihihi

ayos ito ah. mukhang mahal. hehe  :D

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2949 on: Aug 16, 2008 at 08:42 AM »
I'm currently eyeing a yamaha rxv-1800 here in NY for 792 + tax + shipping (JAC or LBC) total is around 40k in php. Any ideas how much it cost in good old Philippines?

This is to replace my current rxv-1500. You will find it soon for sale once I have this 1800.
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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2950 on: Aug 22, 2008 at 01:06 PM »
Mga sir if i have a 30k budget what model should i get? Thanks

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2951 on: Sep 01, 2008 at 05:44 PM »
what would be the main difference of the 659 and 657...thanks!

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2952 on: Sep 06, 2008 at 09:32 PM »
what would be the main difference of the 659 and 657...thanks!

this could be a late reply if you're eyeing for the rxv659 on sale but to answer your question:

657:
- 95w x 7


659:
- 100w x 7
- iPod dock
- Compressed Music Enhancer
- Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-Bit DACs for All Channels
- EISA Award Winner

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2953 on: Sep 06, 2008 at 10:08 PM »
guys,

Gene DellaSala of Audioholics.com, adviced Yamaha AVR owners to always select the "minimum 8 ohms" setting even for 4 ohms speakers. my question is, can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms?

sa palagay ko, ok lang lalo na at sa likod lang naman kaya lang gusto kong makasiguro.  ;)

thanks
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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2954 on: Sep 08, 2008 at 01:16 PM »
guys,

Gene DellaSala of Audioholics.com, adviced Yamaha AVR owners to always select the "minimum 8 ohms" setting even for 4 ohms speakers. my question is, can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms?

sa palagay ko, ok lang lalo na at sa likod lang naman kaya lang gusto kong makasiguro.  ;)

thanks
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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2955 on: Sep 08, 2008 at 02:06 PM »
May temporary ETA and pricing na ba ang 663 sa mga dealers dito?

EDIT: Just called up Audioworld and was told that the 63 series will be coming this August, no word on pricing though. They still have the RX-V661 for 29.5k cash price.

Pushed back to October ang tentative availability ng RX-V663 sa Audioworld. No word on pricing.

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2956 on: Sep 08, 2008 at 04:02 PM »
praktikal...thanks


were you the one who bought it? hehehe. i was actually a bit hesitant (657 and 659) because my house is still under contruction and wouldn't be able to use the avr in the next 6-8 months. i set a price for myself but i had to respect the floor price of the seller. you know how fast tech evolves and considering both are already 2 models old...parang di buo loob ko (fearing SARs attack)

sabi nga nila "kung hindi ukol di bubukol"...hehehe! if it were you, congrats! i think its still a great buy overall!


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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2957 on: Sep 08, 2008 at 04:46 PM »
do local stores carry the yamaha cdps and yamaha stereo amps? if yes, then which store/s in particular?

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2958 on: Sep 08, 2008 at 05:17 PM »
praktikal...thanks


were you the one who bought it? hehehe. i was actually a bit hesitant (657 and 659) because my house is still under contruction and wouldn't be able to use the avr in the next 6-8 months. i set a price for myself but i had to respect the floor price of the seller. you know how fast tech evolves and considering both are already 2 models old...parang di buo loob ko (fearing SARs attack)

sabi nga nila "kung hindi ukol di bubukol"...hehehe! if it were you, congrats! i think its still a great buy overall!



the 659? yup! ok kausap ang seller.  ;D

bro, i tell you super fresh ang unit as if you just bought it from the shop.

wala mang True HD and HDMI but fine with me. anyways, direct ko naman ikabit ang DVDp sa PJ kung so no worries for HDMI connection.  ;)

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2959 on: Sep 09, 2008 at 01:16 PM »
yup, ok nga si von  ;D

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2960 on: Sep 09, 2008 at 06:02 PM »
follow-up question lang guys:

can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms tapos naka set sa "minimum 8ohms"?

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2961 on: Sep 09, 2008 at 10:31 PM »
@praktikal
im not an expert on this one pero try ko na lang din maka help. for me the answer is yes.

guys follow up ko lang yung question ko the other day regarding the yamaha cdps and stereo amps. thanks.


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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2962 on: Sep 09, 2008 at 10:48 PM »
follow-up question lang guys:

can i use a pair of 4 ohms or 6 ohms for my rear/surround while my mains are 8 ohms tapos naka set sa "minimum 8ohms"?

For me, risky gumamit ng 4 Ohm speakers for 8 Ohm receiver.  Minimum 6 Ohm speakers for 8 Ohm receiver, puwede pa.

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2963 on: Sep 09, 2008 at 11:01 PM »
buti na lang pala may disclaimer yung post ko before tungkol sa post ni praktikal. newbie rin kasi ako eh. :)

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2964 on: Sep 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM »
 :D  Hindi rin naman ako expert, kaya meron din akong disclaimer na "for me" sa umpisa. 

The receiver's 4 Ohm setting is preferable when the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  As a safety precaution, the 4 Ohm setting on the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating. 

The side-effect is that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticeable in the bass output.  Medyo hihina ang bass.

Using the 8-ohm amp setting, well-built receivers such as Yamaha can still handle even 4 ohm speakers.  But the risk of overheating the amp is still there.  My personal view is that you should not take that risk.
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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2965 on: Sep 10, 2008 at 02:17 PM »
:D  Hindi rin naman ako expert, kaya meron din akong disclaimer na "for me" sa umpisa. 

The receiver's 4 Ohm setting is preferable when the receiver gets hot (not just warm) at high volume use.  As a safety precaution, the 4 Ohm setting on the receiver steps down the current to prevent overheating. 

The side-effect is that a reduction of the amp's current capability would reduce the dynamic range of the output.  This dynamic range limitation would be most noticeable in the bass output.  Medyo hihina ang bass.

Using the 8-ohm amp setting, well-built receivers such as Yamaha can still handle even 4 ohm speakers.  But the risk of overheating the amp is still there.  My personal view is that you should not take that risk.

ok, out na si 4-ohms. kung 6-ohms kaya, pwede na? balak ko lang naman ilagay sa surround back. thanks  ;)

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2966 on: Sep 10, 2008 at 09:04 PM »
Yes, ayos na ayos ang 6 Ohm speaker sa 8 Ohm receiver.  Yan naman talaga ang standard receiver-speaker pairing ngayon -- 8 Ohms for receiver, 6 ohms for all speakers: fronts, center and surrounds.
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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2967 on: Sep 10, 2008 at 11:33 PM »
thanks sir barrister.  ;)

so bale ang setup ko, 8-ohms sa main, center and surround then 6-ohms sa back surround.  :) ayos! at least pwede na ang wharfs.

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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2968 on: Sep 13, 2008 at 06:23 PM »
has anyone tried the phono input of the RXV 659 sir?


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Re: Yamaha Receivers
« Reply #2969 on: Sep 13, 2008 at 09:53 PM »
Yes, ayos na ayos ang 6 Ohm speaker sa 8 Ohm receiver.  Yan naman talaga ang standard receiver-speaker pairing ngayon -- 8 Ohms for receiver, 6 ohms for all speakers: fronts, center and surrounds.

sir pano po kung pareho 8ohms receiver and speakers ko papangit po ba tunog or masisira yung avr/speaker ko? salamat po =)