Author Topic: Pioneer Kuro Plasmas (Read 39663 times)

newwaveboy · « **Reply #270 on:** Apr 16, 2011 at 12:32 PM »

About a month ago, saw a KURO (forgot the model, size & price) for sale at Automatic Centre ATC ..... display-unit, condition looks good enough though.

Also, there could be a few units left in SM Appliance stores .... saw one last year in SM Sta. Rosa, display-unit as well.

Verbl Kint · « **Reply #271 on:** Aug 18, 2011 at 10:30 PM »

It seems that Kuros have been popping up a lot in appliance sales lately.

I wonder if there still are any unused KRP models around for sale...

Tavus · « **Reply #272 on:** Aug 18, 2011 at 11:11 PM »

oh there still a few more of these units around, mostly A models. Its still considered the best TV made well until OLED's are perfected.

ninjababez® · « **Reply #273 on:** Aug 19, 2011 at 05:23 AM »

i know someone who just got a 50" kuro.
brand spanking new according to him

legalypogi · « **Reply #274 on:** Aug 19, 2011 at 09:00 AM »

saw a display unit at sm san lazaro 50 inches kuro forgot the model 80k pwde pa raw ibaba pag sure buyer at cash...

ninjababez® · « **Reply #275 on:** Aug 19, 2011 at 09:28 AM »

Quote from: legalypogi on Aug 19, 2011 at 09:00 AM

saw a display unit at sm san lazaro 50 inches kuro forgot the model 80k pwde pa raw ibaba pag sure buyer at cash...

wow pwede na ito dun sa di maselan sa gadgets

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #276 on:** Aug 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM »

Almost 4 years na pala yung Kuro ko. Amazing TV, zero issues, no dead pixels, no image retention/screen burn - not even a hint of it - ever, as good as when it came out of the box. I've bougt a couple of LCD's since then but they can't hold a candle to the Kuro.

dindop · « **Reply #277 on:** Aug 19, 2011 at 10:50 AM »

Quote from: lithium_deuteride on Aug 19, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Almost 4 years na pala yung Kuro ko. Amazing TV, zero issues, no dead pixels, no image retention/screen burn - not even a hint of it - ever, as good as when it came out of the box. I've bougt a couple of LCD's since then but they can't hold a candle to the Kuro.

same experience here... it really is value for money, mine's not even full hd but wouldn't even think of replacing it with another brand's (except for a kuro one). the post above saying the 50" is being sold for 80k or less, makes me want to whinge

Verbl Kint · « **Reply #278 on:** Aug 20, 2011 at 06:08 AM »

Congrats sa may bagong Kuro!! Can't wait to test it out hehe

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #279 on:** Sep 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM »

Got me one of these before they disappear forever - a circa 2009 but new-in-box KRP-500A. 9th and last generation of the vaunted Kuro line.

Just a question to other KRP owners, does your unit have Pure mode under Picture options?

mandyb · « **Reply #280 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 12:51 AM »

^unfortunately phillipine model doesnt have av pure mode on the 500A
bit the 600M has
HTH

Verbl Kint · « **Reply #281 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 09:18 AM »

Quote from: lithium_deuteride on Sep 11, 2011 at 12:56 PM

Got me one of these before they disappear forever - a circa 2009 but new-in-box KRP-500A. 9th and last generation of the vaunted Kuro line.

Congrats!! I hope you got a great deal.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #282 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM »

Quote from: mandyb on Sep 12, 2011 at 12:51 AM

^unfortunately phillipine model doesnt have av pure mode on the 500A
bit the 600M has
HTH

Thanks Mandy. I should've browsed the previous posts on this thread as there was a discussion on this pala. Yup, Pure mode is not here and the on screen user interface, as far as I can tell, is the same as my 2007 428XG's. The monitor I have is actually a KRP-500P, an August 2009 Japan build. This makes me wonder about the post in the website linked by Tavus (http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=45450.1410), that Pio halted production of Kuros in April 2009.

I dialed in the D-Nice KRP-500 calibration settings in User Mode and got a very realistic and natural looking picture. This is very likely close to the missing Pure settings cause all the TV processing features are turned off.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #283 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 10:31 AM »

Quote from: Verbl Kint on Sep 12, 2011 at 09:18 AM

Congrats!! I hope you got a great deal.

Thanks VK.

I was offered a 4-month old display unit for 85T but I'm a sucker for brand new. If getting more than 50% off from it's 2009 SRP of Php 255T is a great deal, then yes I got a great deal

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Tavus · « **Reply #284 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 11:49 AM »

Quote from: lithium_deuteride on Sep 12, 2011 at 10:09 AM

Thanks Mandy. I should've browsed the previous posts on this thread as there was a discussion on this pala. Yup, Pure mode is not here and the on screen user interface, as far as I can tell, is the same as my 2007 428XG's. The monitor I have is actually a KRP-500P, an August 2009 Japan build. This makes me wonder about the post in the website linked by Tavus (http://www.xtremeplace.com/yabbse/index.php?topic=45450.1410), that Pio halted production of Kuros in April 2009.

I dialed in the D-Nice KRP-500 calibration settings in User Mode and got a very realistic and natural looking picture. This is very likely close to the missing Pure settings cause all the TV processing features are turned off.

Theres a remedy for that problem. Have it calibrated by professionals. Kaya nila to bring out the best settings for the kuro, even better daw than pure. They will install "ISFmode" day and night, pero medyo mahal sya and I think it risk your warranty but they say the results are worth it if your a videophile. si Audio Visual Driver lang alam ko nag calibrate.

you an do it yourself but you will need an rs232 cable and the isf software, this also cost alot of money.

I hear the most extreme method called board swap. Proven to work http://test.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1226671 its like surgery. You just buy a KRP500 M board from pioneer then unscrew the rear of your kuro remove some cables and the connect the board. the link has all the info.

Tavus · « **Reply #285 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 11:51 AM »

easier to read kuro board swap guide:
http://www.hippotechsolutions.com/?page_id=2693

oh voids your warranty.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #286 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 12:20 PM »

Umm an ISF calibration after the break-in period will do for me thank you. Not too anal about having ultimate tweakability. Also the model I have has it's I/O board in a separate chassis and the layout is very diferent from the pictures in Hippo Tech.

About ISF calibration of AVDI, how is it different from a Spyder calibration? Does it involve a firmware tweak? Otherwise, how can it possibly void the warranty?

Thanks.

Tavus · « **Reply #287 on:** Sep 12, 2011 at 01:58 PM »

i haven't tried. Dont now kung thorough yung sa AVDI.
Isf they send a technician to install a new firmware that unlocks isf night and day as well as measure and calibrate your TV using professional equipment . Ewan ko lang if you get that treatment with AVDI. I'm not touching it until maubos yung warranty ko next year.

with ISF you need to tamper with the firmware which voids warranty. I know you can rollback in case for repairs.

Spyder from my understanding is just a DIY calibration kit you stick on to your TV. looks okay for me if you want to casually calibrate your TV.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=572098

If you think the TV performance is fine then save your money, else do it.

halvert · « **Reply #288 on:** Nov 24, 2011 at 09:32 PM »

For those still looking for pioneers, meron pa 428xg sa sm makati for 69,900. Merong ding 50" di ko na kinuha model number at more than 200k ang price

Verbl Kint · « **Reply #289 on:** Nov 25, 2011 at 12:21 AM »

Quote from: halvert on Nov 24, 2011 at 09:32 PM

Merong ding 50" di ko na kinuha model number at more than 200k ang price

This could be a KRP500A.

jambam · « **Reply #290 on:** Nov 26, 2011 at 11:43 AM »

yup these kuro's really still can stand up w/ most of the other tv's out there .. Only thing I ever wish was i should have gotten the 60" .. But with all the shipping issues out there it was something i was not ready to risk

Tavus · « **Reply #291 on:** Dec 08, 2011 at 05:52 PM »

Can anyone please give measurements for the krp500 KRP-TS02 stand? I plan to make a custom stand for my speaker set. I need to know if there is enough clearance for a my center channel. I dont have the stand because im using wall mounts.

byron · « **Reply #292 on:** Dec 09, 2011 at 10:05 PM »

Hi Lithium,
Remember me? I got the 508XG and VERY VERY HAPPY WITH MY INVESTMENT SINCE 3 years ago!!!

I saw the 60 incher being sold by sir Vic last year, almost had the biggest temptation of my life on TV's happen ahahahaha.

Kuro is the best. Well I can say maybe the most proven.

more power!

Tavus · « **Reply #293 on:** Jan 31, 2012 at 10:16 AM »

hey i notice that every time i watch cable TV the black levels of the krp 500 become greyer and then when i play DVDs, it becomes really black. is the TV suppose to do that?

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #294 on:** Jan 31, 2012 at 11:05 AM »

Quote from: byron on Dec 09, 2011 at 10:05 PM

Hi Lithium,
Remember me? I got the 508XG and VERY VERY HAPPY WITH MY INVESTMENT SINCE 3 years ago!!!

I saw the 60 incher being sold by sir Vic last year, almost had the biggest temptation of my life on TV's happen ahahahaha.

Kuro is the best. Well I can say maybe the most proven.

more power!

Just saw this...yup I remember you man. Yup those early Kuros are really something - matibay and no QC issues.

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #295 on:** Jan 31, 2012 at 11:15 AM »

Quote from: Tavus on Jan 31, 2012 at 10:16 AM

hey i notice that every time i watch cable TV the black levels of the krp 500 become greyer and then when i play DVDs, it becomes really black. is the TV suppose to do that?

Everytime I turn on the KRP500 with no video feed, meaning black screen lang, I noticed it starts out greyish. Then after 10 seconds or so, the deep blackness kicks in such that the screen becomes indistinguishable from the black bezel. It gives me an opportunity to explain to my wife the difference between normal black and Kuro black.

Tavus · « **Reply #296 on:** Jan 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM »

Yes the kuros blacks are excellent and still unbeaten when watching DVDs but sayang lang its excellent blacks don't seem to apply to local Tv well for my unit.
the unit is a krp500a with tuner
does this happen when you watch regular cable shows with your tv ?

lithium_deuteride · « **Reply #297 on:** Jan 31, 2012 at 02:43 PM »

Quote from: Tavus on Jan 31, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Yes the kuros blacks are excellent and still unbeaten when watching DVDs but sayang lang its excellent blacks don't seem to apply to local Tv well for my unit.
the unit is a krp500a with tuner
does this happen when you watch regular cable shows with your tv ?

When I watch regular cable TV, the picture quality drops way below that of HDTV or Blue Ray such that how good or how bad the contrast ratio is becomes largely irrelevant. Having said that, I don't notice any greying or lessening of blackness when I watch regular TV.

Tavus · « **Reply #298 on:** Jan 31, 2012 at 04:39 PM »

well odd indeed. it doesn't really turn grey, its just the black levels get lower.

i will have to send a technician over to check it up.

Tavus · « **Reply #299 on:** Apr 02, 2012 at 09:54 AM »

well here an update i spoke to some av forum guys, showed them some photos of my krp500 panel and ask why my black levels look kinda not right. Well they have confirmed my worst fear, my kuro is indeed suffering from the dreaded red tint panel defect. where blacks now look purplish red.

And the only known cure is a total panel replacement, unless you do the short cut which is reset the panel but that kills its lifespan.
I hope the pioneer service here in manila is good

EDIT:false alarm $:-\$