Author Topic: Pioneer DV-600AV-S (1080p upscaling dvd player) (Read 89897 times)

dyerds · « **Reply #300 on:** Jan 01, 2008 at 08:53 PM »

Happy New Year din sa inyong lahat mga PDVD member.

May tanong lang po ako kasi hindi ko alam kung normal lang po yung nangyayari sa DV600 ko. May 2 pong HDMI slots yung LCD, kapag 2 HDMI cable yung nakakabit (1 para sa DV600 (HDMI 1) at 1 para sa XBox (HDMI 2)) tapos nag-play ako ng DVD walang lumalabas na pic at nagbi-blink yung red LED sa harapan ng DVD player. Tapos kapag tinanggal ko yung 1 HDMI na para sa XBOX at binuksan ko uli yung DV600 at yung TV lumalabas na yung pic. Ganun po talaga yun?

Ctlim · « **Reply #301 on:** Jan 02, 2008 at 10:29 AM »

^ actually hindi dapat... you can switch dapat from hdmi1 and hdmi2 source.

eksi · « **Reply #302 on:** Jan 02, 2008 at 02:47 PM »

I bought DV 400 for HDMI and upscaling capability and i let my receiver do the magic for the audio (through digital audio out - coax). Pareho lang ba ang upscaling capability of DV 400 and DV 600?

MAtZTER · « **Reply #303 on:** Jan 02, 2008 at 05:57 PM »

The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!

I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).

What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.

dyerds · « **Reply #304 on:** Jan 02, 2008 at 09:00 PM »

Quote from: ctlim76 on Jan 02, 2008 at 10:29 AM

^ actually hindi dapat... you can switch dapat from hdmi1 and hdmi2 source.

sSo what do you think is the problem? Is it with my LCD?

Ctlim · « **Reply #305 on:** Jan 03, 2008 at 01:42 PM »

^ try another hdmi source instead of the xbox (ie. another dvd player with hdmi or a ps3)

if the problem persists then you probably should ask the manufacturer of your lcd... oh question nga pala, this happens even if your xbox is turned off?

tonio · « **Reply #306 on:** Jan 04, 2008 at 11:30 AM »

is it worth buying this player to pair up with a panasonic 32"?..san po ang best price (preferably card transaction)? thanks.

MAtZTER · « **Reply #307 on:** Jan 04, 2008 at 11:49 AM »

Quote from: tonio on Jan 04, 2008 at 11:30 AM

is it worth buying this player to pair up with a panasonic 32"?..san po ang best price (preferably card transaction)? thanks.

If you are after the video upconversion, it has been discussed & confirmed many times in this forum that the improvement is not a big deal for 32" screens.

But if you are after the audio. Its a good buy! As I posted above, even the 5.1 outs are quite impressive (combined w/ a powerful amp of course).

dyerds · « **Reply #308 on:** Jan 05, 2008 at 11:46 PM »

Quote from: ctlim76 on Jan 03, 2008 at 01:42 PM

^ try another hdmi source instead of the xbox (ie. another dvd player with hdmi or a ps3)

if the problem persists then you probably should ask the manufacturer of your lcd... oh question nga pala, this happens even if your xbox is turned off?

I haven't check it yet. I'll keep you updated sir.
Thanks.

kt · « **Reply #309 on:** Jan 06, 2008 at 07:59 PM »

Quote from: MAtZTER on Jan 02, 2008 at 05:57 PM

The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!

I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).

What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.

sir matt u used a 5ch int amp po ba or power amp? tnx

Maulller · « **Reply #310 on:** Jan 06, 2008 at 11:49 PM »

got my pio dv 600 today and im very satisfied with it. tested a couple of dvd and divx movies. havent tried attatching my usb hard drive yet. will try it later

kalirayacs · « **Reply #311 on:** Jan 07, 2008 at 01:16 PM »

sir pwede ba tong upscaler na to sa component cable lang? upto what scale kaya nito? kasi un tv namin hdtv na pero wlang hdmi ehh

hangnag 1080i lang sya ehh (tried on my xbox360). and sir un ordinary dvd ba mas malinaw tlga un labas nya ?

Ctlim · « **Reply #312 on:** Jan 07, 2008 at 01:37 PM »

since my lcd only has 1 hdmi input, I use component video connection on my 696avs and it registers 720p and 1080i. so I guess the dv600 also upconverts through component? tama ba.

question though, aside from the 1080p upscaler, what are the other things to consider between the 696av and the 600av? im thinking of getting the 600 kasi later as a second dvd player.

bhengko · « **Reply #313 on:** Jan 07, 2008 at 10:43 PM »

Quote from: MAtZTER on Jan 02, 2008 at 05:57 PM

The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!

I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).

What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.

sir matz,

i have a pioneer dv600. do you mean that i can set up a ht by connecting my dvd to the bada 5 chnl amp? how's the sound quality compared with using a receiver?
im planning to set up a ht. if this pair is better then i might consider.

Marl☆1 · « **Reply #314 on:** Jan 07, 2008 at 11:35 PM »

Quote from: kalirayacs on Jan 07, 2008 at 01:16 PM

sir pwede ba tong upscaler na to sa component cable lang? upto what scale kaya nito? kasi un tv namin hdtv na pero wlang hdmi ehh hangnag 1080i lang sya ehh (tried on my xbox360). and sir un ordinary dvd ba mas malinaw tlga un labas nya ?

Quote from: ctlim76 on Jan 07, 2008 at 01:37 PM

since my lcd only has 1 hdmi input, I use component video connection on my 696avs and it registers 720p and 1080i. so I guess the dv600 also upconverts through component? tama ba.

Bros, it's a fact that an upscaler can work via component cables. However, two things you have to bear in mind: First, it's theoretically only up to 720p/1080i (1080p upscaling per the info I gathered can only be achieved via HDMI - provided your panel is Full HD of course); and secondly, it's selective and basically depends on your DVD upscaler. For instance for the early Samsung DVD player / upscalers like the HD931 / HD841 etc - it wasn't allowed to upscale right out of the box due to the HDCP restriction so a remote control hack was needed to enable upscaling via component. This hack was readily available on a number of A/V threads on the web.

Now with regards to the Pio 600AV, there doesn't seem to be a hack mentioned in any forum. Here's a thread in AVForums on this particular topic < CLICK HERE > and it is likewise stated there that DV600 is not capable of upscaling via CVI. Progressive scanning yes, but it seems that for this particular player, you really need an HDMI connection to effect the upconversion.

You can see the 600AV manual here for more info on the capabilities of the machine: < DV 400/600 AV Manual >

Hope this helps

kalirayacs · « **Reply #315 on:** Jan 08, 2008 at 01:52 AM »

ehh sir san makakabili nung sammy na upscaler na yan and how much kaya ? kasi compponent lang po un amin ehh

baka masayang bili ko sa pio 600

Ctlim · « **Reply #316 on:** Jan 08, 2008 at 10:58 AM »

bought the dv600 last night and it does not upconvert via component. ill have to check my dv696 and see if it does. not last time I checked di rin kaya.

hay... thats the problem in buying an lcd way too early. only got one hdmi input.

John E. · « **Reply #317 on:** Jan 08, 2008 at 11:16 AM »

jackpot! but atleast we enjoyed lcd viewing earlier

macdon · « **Reply #318 on:** Jan 08, 2008 at 12:46 PM »

This DV600 looks to be a popular brand both for video & audio

Considering what it can do, atleast may mga bagay pa sa HT na hindi naman masyado mahal

Congrats to all those who bought - hopefully, maka sali din ako sa inyo soon

MAtZTER · « **Reply #319 on:** Jan 08, 2008 at 01:25 PM »

Quote from: kt on Jan 06, 2008 at 07:59 PM

sir matt u used a 5ch int amp po ba or power amp? tnx

Its an integrated amp with volume control, remote, and some 2 channel inputs (DVD, TV, CD) aside from its 5.1 inputs.

Quote from: bhengko on Jan 07, 2008 at 10:43 PM

i have a pioneer dv600. do you mean that i can set up a ht by connecting my dvd to the bada 5 chnl amp? how's the sound quality compared with using a receiver?
im planning to set up a ht. if this pair is better then i might consider.

Yes, but no tuner & lots of analog connections at the back. Power wise, I could safely say w/ my constant upgrade experience that its equivalent to receiver over 2-2.5x its estimated price

! As you can see, it only took me 10 mins to decide w/c amp says goodbye to my setup as the diff was too obvious. Decoder wise, it will depend on your DVDp, & it was impressive with the DV-600. Problem is this just a sample unit, release date unknown.

Quote from: macdon on Jan 08, 2008 at 12:46 PM

This DV600 looks to be a popular brand both for video & audio
Considering what it can do, atleast may mga bagay pa sa HT na hindi naman masyado mahal

Congrats to all those who bought - hopefully, maka sali din ako sa inyo soon

Its also decent in audio. Its still not at the level of higher dedicated CD players, but very good performance for its price.

Marl☆1 · « **Reply #320 on:** Jan 08, 2008 at 04:21 PM »

Quote from: kalirayacs on Jan 08, 2008 at 01:52 AM

ehh sir san makakabili nung sammy na upscaler na yan and how much kaya ? kasi compponent lang po un amin ehh baka masayang bili ko sa pio 600

You can check Sammie's ph website HERE. The DVD 1080P7 costs around P6k and upscales up to 1080p but via HDMI. It has component inputs but am not sure if it can still upscale via CVI. The Legacy models of Sammie (i.e. HD-938, HD860 etc) were the ones which can be hacked via the HDCP remote code, BUT since Samsung was reprimanded by a number of A/V sects for coming out with an easily-hackable device, they tightened the HDCP restriction in the newer models - presumably this 1080P7 included.

Anyway to get back to topic, since the new Sammy players are likewise oriented towards HDMI for the upconversion, why don't you just upgrade your panel

(since you'll eventually need a panel with an HDMI input in the future to attain full HD Nirvana) and just score the versatile and value for money 600AV. May seem like a silly suggestion for now but may be the more cost-efficient alternative taking a more long term perspective.

Well, if have the budget to boot, another option of course is to try other upscaler brands like Oppo

but in one of the threads in PDVD, it seems like you'll need a very hard to come-by firmware to enable upscaling via CVI if you want to go beyond 480p. Even Oppo Digital Inc. doesn't support these tactical firmwares - thus no guarantee it'll work. Check out this very informative thread HERE.

I don't know what your panel is but if that has an internal scaler already well, baka best na dun ka na lang muna umasa if you don't want to spend too much.

Most lcd/plasmas nowadays should be able to upscale the usual 480I DVD signal to it's higher native resolution if you go beyond 32".

a2 · « **Reply #321 on:** Jan 09, 2008 at 12:33 PM »

mga sir, magkano ba ito??

Ctlim · « **Reply #322 on:** Jan 09, 2008 at 12:38 PM »

mga 6200-6400 lowest ngayon ng dv600.

a2 · « **Reply #323 on:** Jan 09, 2008 at 12:50 PM »

^ ah ok. thanks. isa pang question mga sir, malaki ba ang difference ng pq at aq nito sa philips dvp5166k? sa standard tv ko lang sya gagamitin.

odyopayl · « **Reply #324 on:** Jan 09, 2008 at 01:32 PM »

Quote from: a2 on Jan 09, 2008 at 12:50 PM

^ ah ok. thanks. isa pang question mga sir, malaki ba ang difference ng pq at aq nito sa philips dvp5166k? sa standard tv ko lang sya gagamitin.

If you are planning to upgrade in the near future for a 1080p capable TV (LDC, plasma) it matters to choose Pioneer 600. If not pareho lang yan (Pioneer & Philips). One thing more, Pioneer is DVD-A & SACD capable compared to Philips which is only SACD. Again this doesn't matter since there are only few SACD & DVD-A available in the market but if you have this collections, it's a must for you to get Pioneer 600 even without HDTV.

a2 · « **Reply #325 on:** Jan 09, 2008 at 01:40 PM »

^ ah ok. i'll have to go with the dv-600 nalang. may balak din kasi kami bumili ng lcd. thanks sa reply!!

Ctlim · « **Reply #326 on:** Jan 09, 2008 at 01:41 PM »

good choice. id go for pioneer anytime vs. philips. I just dont like their gear.

jepoi · « **Reply #327 on:** Jan 11, 2008 at 02:33 AM »

has anyone tried using this player to play a divx file that is HR? usually, these files are around 700Mb in size for a 30 minute show, as opposed to the more common 350Mb that regular DivX compatible DVD players can play.

chris69ners · « **Reply #328 on:** Jan 11, 2008 at 05:13 AM »

Quote from: MAtZTER on Jan 02, 2008 at 05:57 PM

The onborad decoder of the DV-600 is not bad!

I tested my DV-600 a few days ago with a Bada 5-channel integrated amp for my bedroom setup, using the DV-600's 5.1 outputs. It didnt even take 15 mins for me to decide to replace & sell my older entry level Denon 1705 (now packed).

What a revelation! I thought all this time that only receiver decoders are the way to go for HT, di naman pala. I am also greatly enjoying DVD-A & now stuck listening to w/ my secondary setup. Wala nga lang tuner & ang daming interconnects sa likod.

Sir MatZ ask ko lang, since u used ur pio's 5.1 analog outputs for ur setup, I presume there is a master vol control on the supplied remote?

I have a philips dvd player with analog 5.1 output. I dont have an AVR yet so Im planning to upgrade to this pio to replace my philips and Im also thinking of using its built in decoder as with my current setup. Pwede rin ba adjust audio out settings ng individual 5.1 analog outputs nito?

Maulller · « **Reply #329 on:** Jan 11, 2008 at 06:53 AM »

Quote from: jepoi on Jan 11, 2008 at 02:33 AM

has anyone tried using this player to play a divx file that is HR? usually, these files are around 700Mb in size for a 30 minute show, as opposed to the more common 350Mb that regular DivX compatible DVD players can play.

i've tested some downloaded anime (Gundam 00) encoded in 1280 x720, and it cannot be played in the Pio 600 (using Samsung r81 32" as display).What particular resolution of divx movies can the pio 600 play/are suppported?