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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #300 on: Jan 08, 2014 at 02:46 AM »
If you wanted warm, you should have opted for a 40-50 watter tube amp. Then tube rolled to cater to the sound of your liking.

The Nad amp, from what ive heard in several systems, work best with PSB speakers.

Ive only heard a MA RX speaker once (RX1), paired to a 6l6 25 watter Dared tube amp in Toys for the Audio Boys store. The sound was ok, I would not say it sounded bright, and it had ample bass for such a small speaker.

If youre in for some of the best midrange, I suggest go for Harbeths or Proacs. :)

As of now malabo ako tumulay sa Harberths and Proacs... :) they are way to expensive.
Naalala ko yun setup sa MCS na FS na Sonus plus Clear plus 15k USD na speaker wire. napaisip ako, tama napaka subjective na hobby ito, mas natuwa pa ako sa setup na 316 + B6. well siguro bata pa ako nun time na yun at mahilig pa sa makulay na tunog...


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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #301 on: Jan 08, 2014 at 02:49 AM »
As of now malabo ako tumulay sa Harberths and Proacs... :) they are way to expensive.
Naalala ko yun setup sa MCS na FS na Sonus plus Clear plus 15k USD na speaker wire. napaisip ako, tama napaka subjective na hobby ito, mas natuwa pa ako sa setup na 316 + B6. well siguro bata pa ako nun time na yun at mahilig pa sa makulay na tunog...




Ive heard the 326 naman with the B6 nung Hifi show. Sounds good! those were very good mids indeed, I found the highs to be on the thin side though. I enjoyed the B6 so much that im actually getting the Image for my HT this week (if me stock na ng cherry) :D

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #302 on: Jan 08, 2014 at 07:22 AM »
Ive heard the 326 naman with the B6 nung Hifi show. Sounds good! those were very good mids indeed, I found the highs to be on the thin side though. I enjoyed the B6 so much that im actually getting the Image for my HT this week (if me stock na ng cherry) :D

Good choice.. Im actually using b6 for my fronts in HT..

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #303 on: Jan 08, 2014 at 11:25 PM »
Ive heard the 326 naman with the B6 nung Hifi show. Sounds good! those were very good mids indeed, I found the highs to be on the thin side though. I enjoyed the B6 so much that im actually getting the Image for my HT this week (if me stock na ng cherry) :D



Unang speaker ko ang B6, well the best agad considering blind test sya. B6 ang entry ko sa mundo ng HIFI match w/ RA04SE and/or HK 3390. naging issue ko lang yun high hindi ko kaya i-tame talaga. pero ang 326+B6 are best match talaga ng na-audition ko at price point...

then yun narining ko ang Creek Evo + Epic 2 na addict ako sa mid and high... :)
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #304 on: Jan 08, 2014 at 11:31 PM »
Unang speaker ko ang B6, well the best agad considering blind test sya. B6 ang entry ko sa mundo ng HIFI match w/ RA04SE and/or HK 3390. naging issue ko lang yun high hindi ko kaya i-tame talaga. pero ang 326+B6 are best match talaga ng na-audition ko at price point...

then yun narining ko ang Creek Evo + Epic 2 na addict ako sa mid and high... :)

ive heard the epos epic 2 paired with a Leben amp, albeit a low powered one - an el84 I think and found it bright.

Not sure if the speaker will deliver with a more robust tube amp, a 40 watter perhaps.

I will use the PSB for my HT paired with a denon AVR (2113), a set of B6, c5 and B4 for surrounds. Anything below 80 Hz, the Pb12NSD takes over.

BTW, what do you mean when you say "tame" the b6?

Cheers :)
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #305 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 08:02 AM »
Yung High ng B6 paired sa 326, walang kelangan iTame?

Tinetame ko is yung Bass most of the time, when am not listening to EDM or Hardstyle.
Am exactly... 68inches away from my speakers at my listening area fyi. ;D
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #306 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 08:09 AM »
Yung High ng B6 paired sa 326, walang kelangan iTame?

Tinetame ko is yung Bass most of the time, when am not listening to EDM or Hardstyle.
Am exactly... 68inches away from my speakers at my listening area fyi. ;D


You can try moving the speakers further away from the walls. If your seating position is near a wall as well, try to move your lis pos as well. If you find the bass boomy or the highs sibilant, consider bass traps on corners, carpet the floor and add absorbers on primary reflection points.

If all else fail to correct the fault you find, maybe the problem is with the source, if the recording is bad - there is no workaround it.

Hope it helps sir.

Cheers :)
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #307 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 08:39 PM »
Ok na mga brader, IC ng CDP to Amp ang issue kaya simple lang yun mid and high.

Ayos ang union nila 326 and RX1, smooth, malaki soundstage, extended high maganda ang imaging.
Parang same sila ng CA 851A at Tannoy DC6 less bass pa.

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #308 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 08:40 PM »
Ok na mga brader, IC ng CDP to Amp ang issue kaya simple lang yun mid and high.

Ayos ang union nila 326 and RX1, smooth, malaki soundstage, extended high maganda ang imaging.
Parang same sila ng CA 851A at Tannoy DC6 less bass pa.

Grabe si Lani Misalucha, ang sarap ng boses!

Good for you nakuha mo na yung tamang timpla that suits your taste.

Enjoy your slice of sonic heaven.

Cheers :)
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #309 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 08:43 PM »
+100 sa rx1

If you partner it with the right electronics....

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #310 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 09:01 PM »
+100 sa rx1

If you partner it with the right electronics....

Audio nirvana. :)

Ito Noel Cabangon at Lani Misalucha, sarap ng timpla. bukas try ko na mga mabibigat naman. start ako sa Incubus "Science" then Deftones "Around the Fur". sana mag gala ang biyenan ko para akyat ako ng Pantera "Vulgar display of power" at Sepultura/Soulfly (Arise/Primitive). ito nga yun time ni rotel need ko open yun sb12nds para add ng lows and soundstage, ngayon no need na sa low's and soundstage... kayang kaya ni RX1.
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #311 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 09:05 PM »
^ Hehe This Love lagi pang Audition ko sa Watts. ;D

You can try moving the speakers further away from the walls. If your seating position is near a wall as well, try to move your lis pos as well. If you find the bass boomy or the highs sibilant, consider bass traps on corners, carpet the floor and add absorbers on primary reflection points.

If all else fail to correct the fault you find, maybe the problem is with the source, if the recording is bad - there is no workaround it.

Hope it helps sir.

Cheers :)

Problem is the area, parang 5 inches lang layo nya sa wall. ;D
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #312 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 09:11 PM »
^ Hehe This Love lagi pang Audition ko sa Watts. ;D

Problem is the area, parang 5 inches lang layo nya sa wall. ;D
Gallery here.

Looking at the pictures of the set,

I see that the room is to blame for whatever that he/she intends to tame.

Lots of flat surfaces (reflective) and corners where the bass tend to accumulate. The lis pos is adjacent to the wall which reinforces the bass (+3 db, +6db along corners) as well.

Ceiling and flooring also contribute to the reflections.

I would suspect that the speaker will be bright and boomy on some recordings. The room is to blame for this.

Luckily, accoustic treatments can solve this problem :)

Also, the speaker would sound better on proper stands, adjust the filling density to cater the desired sq.

Cheers :)
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #313 on: Jan 09, 2014 at 09:12 PM »
^ Yeh sir, lots of research to do regarding acoustics. Will renovate din.

thanks! :)

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #314 on: Jan 12, 2014 at 11:40 AM »
Sharing demo ng NAD 326 paired w/ MXS... ganda ng union, hindi ko expected ito ah...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVffOIpz3Og&feature=youtu.be
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #315 on: Jan 12, 2014 at 02:04 PM »
Sharing demo ng NAD 326 paired w/ MXS... ganda ng union, hindi ko expected ito ah...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVffOIpz3Og&feature=youtu.be

Mission MX series sound better with Rotel IMO. I used to have MX1 speakers.
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #316 on: Jan 12, 2014 at 05:28 PM »
Mission MX series sound better with Rotel IMO. I used to have MX1 speakers.

I do have Rotel din then paired sa MX3. pero yun MXS na pang surround lang eh kinaya mag stand alone as LR w/ shining and glory... :) ang liit lang ng speaker para tumunog ng malaki...
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #317 on: Jan 15, 2014 at 02:16 PM »
http://www.stereophile.com/content/nad-refreshed

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« Reply #318 on: Jan 15, 2014 at 02:24 PM »
http://www.stereophile.com/content/nad-refreshed

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #319 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 09:40 AM »
mga brader, paano pala matigil yun auto off ng NAD 326? naka saksak sya sa avr then yun avr naka saksak naman sa extension outlet na may breaker.

kapag kasi magbubukas ang ng electric fan or TV (naka saksak din sa extension) kapag naka "ON" si NAD bigla sya punta sa protection off then after 5secs ON ulit sya.

may configure ba sa 326 para hindi ganun ka sensitive?
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #320 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 10:16 AM »
mga brader, paano pala matigil yun auto off ng NAD 326? naka saksak sya sa avr then yun avr naka saksak naman sa extension outlet na may breaker.

kapag kasi magbubukas ang ng electric fan or TV (naka saksak din sa extension) kapag naka "ON" si NAD bigla sya punta sa protection off then after 5secs ON ulit sya.

may configure ba sa 326 para hindi ganun ka sensitive?

Sir, have the unit checked, check your AVR and check your extension outlet. It shouldn't act that way..

One reason i can see kung bat sya nag kakaganun is possible din na kinakapos si AV Regulator, di sya nakaka pag adjust ng load so yung power na sinusupply nya sa NAD is not sufficient making it shut down..
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #321 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 10:23 AM »
+1 mukhang kinakapos sa power yung extension.

Try having a separate extension outlet solely for your amp para walang kahati.
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #322 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 06:49 PM »
ganito mga brader yun connection ko..

wall outlet -> outlet extension (yun 7pcs outlet n may mga kanya kanya na switch at fuse) -> AVR -> Amp and CD. yun lang yun nakakabit sa AVR. then uses Narayan power cable AVR to Amp, while CDP stock cable nya.

yun mga nakasaksak sa extension outlet are, Sub, cable box, TV, AVR. kapg AVR yun nk "ON" lahat nk off or minsan kasabay si Sub.

meaning ba wag ko na saksak si AVR sa extension cord at rekta na sa wall outlet?
o kulang ba yun AVR (500watts) para sa NAD 326 at sony CDP?
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #323 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 07:11 PM »
^ yes sir i separate nyo na outlet ung AVR..wag nyo isama dun sa outlet extension..since sa isang line lang sila nag ddraw lahat ng current..

I think enough na un AVR nyo sir para sa NAD and CDP nyo

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« Reply #324 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 07:33 PM »
ganito mga brader yun connection ko..

wall outlet -> outlet extension (yun 7pcs outlet n may mga kanya kanya na switch at fuse) -> AVR -> Amp and CD. yun lang yun nakakabit sa AVR. then uses Narayan power cable AVR to Amp, while CDP stock cable nya.

yun mga nakasaksak sa extension outlet are, Sub, cable box, TV, AVR. kapg AVR yun nk "ON" lahat nk off or minsan kasabay si Sub.

meaning ba wag ko na saksak si AVR sa extension cord at rekta na sa wall outlet?
o kulang ba yun AVR (500watts) para sa NAD 326 at sony CDP?

Kung dun mo sa extension cord sinasaksak yung TV or fan kung saan nakasaksak ang AVR, then meaning each time you turn it on.. nag fufluctuate yung power na pumapasok sa AVR, then AVR try to regulate on the power it receives supplies power to your AMP, kung naapektuhan ang AMP each time na nag oon ka ng mga nakasaksak sa extension cord, then that means hindi na reregulate ng ayos ni AVR ang power na sinusuply nya sa AMP making your amp shutdown..

My STAC avr since old na make noise when theres a sudden power fluctuation... Yung TV ko nakasaksak sa Extension cord kung saan nakasaksak ang AVR, each time i turn on the TV, the AVR makes the noise(meaning it tries to regulate the power) though di nag shushutdown yung equipment ko na nakakabit sa AVR kasi oks pa naman ang reulator, maingay nga lang...

Check your AVR bro, ito kasi nag susuply ng power sa amp.. dapat kaya nya i regulate ang sinusuply nyang power sa AMP.. Kung meron kang multi tester, test mo out put ni AVR each time na mag on ka ng TV.. pag bumabagsak yung meter each time na mag on ka ng TV, then may issue ang AVR mo...

Or try mo muna na wag isaksak sa extension kung saan nakasaksak lahat ng appliance, diretso mo sya sa outlet
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #325 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 08:43 PM »
sige sige brader... maraming salamat. bali ito yun mga testing scenario ko. any addition pa?

Wall outlet -> AVR -> Amp/CDP
Extension or wall outlet -> Amp/CDP
Test the AVR.
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #326 on: Mar 10, 2014 at 08:47 PM »
sige sige brader... maraming salamat. bali ito yun mga testing scenario ko. any addition pa?

Wall outlet -> AVR -> Amp/CDP
Extension or wall outlet -> Amp/CDP
Test the AVR.


Yup.... Anong brand ng AVR mo? Sometimes pag pangit ang AVR mo and di na sya nag peperform ng ayos.. sya pa minsan ang dahilan ng pagkasira ng equipment..
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #327 on: Mar 11, 2014 at 11:56 AM »
Yup.... Anong brand ng AVR mo? Sometimes pag pangit ang AVR mo and di na sya nag peperform ng ayos.. sya pa minsan ang dahilan ng pagkasira ng equipment..

Akaki brader yun black... isang taon palang sa akin... ok ba yun brand na yun?
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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #328 on: Mar 27, 2014 at 08:00 PM »
saan po pwede mag-pa-repair ng old NAD amp....

MODEL : NAD 304

problem : right channel output is distorted

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Re: NAD Integrated Amplifier Speaks-out
« Reply #329 on: Mar 28, 2014 at 12:21 AM »
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