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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #30 on: Mar 09, 2009 at 08:58 PM »
^mATX board nga pala un. gamit ko ung Emaxx AMD780G-PRO-128.  ;D
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #31 on: Mar 15, 2009 at 09:14 AM »
iCute QS02-BB Slim Casing available:

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=93906.0
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2009 at 09:02 AM »
Does anyone have an idea on the Dual-core Atom's power consumption?
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2009 at 01:24 PM »
Quote from: Verbl Kint on May 15, 2009 at 09:02 AM
Does anyone have an idea on the Dual-core Atom's power consumption?

Not sure on the Dual-Core Atom's power consumption exactly, but the motherboard with a Dual-Core Atom, the D945GCLF2 or Little Falls 2 has a power consumption of, at idle, 41 watts, and at load, 44.2 according to a review dated May 12, 2009 from Anandtech.
Sad to say, luma na and inefficient yung chipset ng Little Falls 2
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=6

If you are going to build a very small and low power HTPC, and you are willing to wait and have the budget, I suggest go for the Zotac ION ITX.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=2
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #34 on: May 26, 2009 at 09:03 PM »
Quote from: fernando_montalban on May 15, 2009 at 01:24 PM
Not sure on the Dual-Core Atom's power consumption exactly, but the motherboard with a Dual-Core Atom, the D945GCLF2 or Little Falls 2 has a power consumption of, at idle, 41 watts, and at load, 44.2 according to a review dated May 12, 2009 from Anandtech.
Sad to say, luma na and inefficient yung chipset ng Little Falls 2
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=6

If you are going to build a very small and low power HTPC, and you are willing to wait and have the budget, I suggest go for the Zotac ION ITX.
http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3562&p=2

I hope they come out with power consumption benchmarks real soon. 

I also hope that the upcoming SkyCable HD box is an actual DVR that can be networked.
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #35 on: Jun 14, 2009 at 02:33 AM »
Guys, pasali sa thread. hehehe.
I'm planning to build din kz HTPC instead of buying Popcorn Hour (10K+) / WDTV(5k+).
What triggers me to build this is - when I tried to test my sis laptop CQ40 in our LG Plasma.
Quality is really good(for me), and because my HTIB can only play divx.

So currently, e2 ung plan ko, pero wala pa ung Case/PSU.

As this is a there for low power HTPC,
Help me naman po kung ilang PSU kaya dapat dito?

-----------------
P3300   Gigabyte MA69GM-S2H AMD690/HDMI
P3400   Athlon 64 X2 7750 (2.7G) 3mb DC
P1600   Corsair 2x 1GB
P2900   HD SATA 250 GB
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P11200 total

Thanks in advance!

Cheers,
Ivan
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #36 on: Jun 14, 2009 at 09:27 AM »
@krypton125: a true-rated 250-300W PSU is enough for your setup. go with 500W PSU if you have budget. cheapest is HEC Raptor R500 for ~P2,300.

refer to the list on PSU 101 >> http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=182400&page=1
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #37 on: Jun 16, 2009 at 09:46 PM »
Ano po ung cons pag generic na PSU lang binili ko (tipid mode)?

Question din po sa iCute QS02-BB, interactive din po ba ung LCD ng case na to?
Ano po LCD nia?

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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #38 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 09:35 AM »
Quote from: krypton125 on Jun 14, 2009 at 02:33 AM
P2900   HD SATA 250 GB

@ivan, konti lang difference mag 500gb or 640gb ka na

the i-cute case is a good looking htpc case, but i chose a tower because of space & heat issues.  suggest ko sana antec 300 case, frustration ko eh  ;D

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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #39 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 09:45 AM »
Quote from: krypton125 on Jun 16, 2009 at 09:46 PM
Ano po ung cons pag generic na PSU lang binili ko (tipid mode)?

Question din po sa iCute QS02-BB, interactive din po ba ung LCD ng case na to?
Ano po LCD nia?



suggest you save up for a good psu, because in the long run, sa daming upgrade options ngayun, you'll end up replacing it. 

A generic 500W psu is sufficient enough for your planned setup. although I never tested the full capacity of mine. I upgraded to a HEC winpower 550w

 


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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #40 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM »
Quote from: Dowals on Jun 17, 2009 at 09:35 AM
@ivan, konti lang difference mag 500gb or 640gb ka na


Yung 500Gb ko na Seagate 7200.12 is only P2,800 at PC_Reform in Makati.  Wala na yung bugs of the 7200.11 series, at mas mura pa!  ;D

Ganda rin yung iCute na mesh casing, para sa kapos sa budget...  Available rin kay PC_Reform.  See details below:



http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=3577705
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #41 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 01:14 PM »
ang laki ng case fan, panalo  :)
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #42 on: Jun 17, 2009 at 02:10 PM »
Quote from: paolorenzo on Jun 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Yung 500Gb ko na Seagate 7200.12 is only P2,800 at PC_Reform in Makati.  Wala na yung bugs of the 7200.11 series, at mas mura pa!  ;D

Ganda rin yung iCute na mesh casing, para sa kapos sa budget...  Available rin kay PC_Reform.  See details below:


wow! ang mura naman ng HD kay PC_Reform. legal distributor din ba cia? hehehe.
thanks sa mga advice!

na try nio na rin bang mag run PS2 emulator sa HTPC nio? hehehe.

ang hirap bumili ng walang pera! ^_^
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #43 on: Jun 18, 2009 at 09:08 AM »
Quote from: krypton125 on Jun 17, 2009 at 02:10 PM
na try nio na rin bang mag run PS2 emulator sa HTPC nio? hehehe.

ang hirap bumili ng walang pera! ^_^


ako na try ko na... ok sya sa games na hindi graphics intensive... My HTPC is a 780G chipset with only an internal gpu... pero mas ok syempre kung may external gpu ka....
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #44 on: Jun 18, 2009 at 09:24 AM »
@stick

pano?  ;D
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #45 on: Jun 18, 2009 at 02:43 PM »
Quote from: stick on Jun 18, 2009 at 09:08 AM
ako na try ko na... ok sya sa games na hindi graphics intensive... My HTPC is a 780G chipset with only an internal gpu... pero mas ok syempre kung may external gpu ka....

Anong game Naruto? ^_^
PSCX2 ba gamit mo?

Quote from: Dowals on Jun 18, 2009 at 09:24 AM
@stick

pano?  ;D

@Dowals - interested ka rin? hehehe.


nalilito na ko kung ano bibilhin ko...
mini-ITX or microATX na board. hehehe.

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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #46 on: Jun 24, 2009 at 08:28 AM »
I have tried playing FFX at 30 to 40 fps... played the game upto the end.... using PCSX2.... GT4 at 11 fps... hehe... super bagal... needs a better GPU.... FFX-2 at 24fps... pwedeng pagtyagaan... tekken 5 at 15fps... slow motion ka during battles....  ;D

just follow the guide and tutorials at http://www.pcsx2.net/

FFX is one of the best games in PS2, you'll love it guys.... havent tried naruto but i think it would run at decent fps...
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #47 on: Jun 24, 2009 at 09:34 AM »
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCSX2

The PS2 has several processing units including a MIPS R5900 chip, MIPS R3000A chip, two custom vector units, and graphics chip (Graphics Synthesizer). With the exception of the MIPS R5900 (clocked at 294.912 MHz) and the MIPS R3000A (clocked at 36.864 MHz, selectable to 33.8688 MHz for PlayStation (1) emulation), all other chips run at the bus speed of 147 MHz.

There are several reasons which make emulation of the PS2 on a PC extremely difficult. Architectural differences between an x86-based PC and the PS2 are substantial; emulating multiple chips running in parallel on a single-core processor is quite complex. Taking advantage of dual core processors on PCs is even harder due to the tight synchronization between the PS2 chips.

Recommended Spec for PCSX2:

    * Windows XP/Vista or Linux 32bit/64bit
    * CPU: Core 2 Duo 3.2GHz
    * GPU: GeForce 8600 GT or better
    * 1GB RAM (2GB if using Windows Vista)
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #48 on: Jun 24, 2009 at 11:08 AM »
Yes, its quite difficult for the system.... when playing FFX @ 30~40fps CPU is @ 90~100% usage... myCPU is an Athlon 64 X2 5000 (2.6G)...  really hard for the CPU when playing long hours, torture for the CPU.... you also need a good cooling since the CPU will really get hot.... ;D
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #49 on: Jun 24, 2009 at 11:43 AM »
^Gaming PC na talaga ang need dyan.
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #50 on: Jun 24, 2009 at 08:01 PM »
Or dedicated gaming console.   ;D
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #51 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 08:13 AM »
I bought mine last saturday for about 17K+.

MOBO: J&W minix 780G
Procie: AMD 5050e
Case: Silverstone SG05
Memory: 2 x 2GB DDR2 800 Transcend SODIMM.

I did not include Hard Disk since I have a spare 160GB.
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #52 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 08:38 AM »
@cool
how much did that setup cost you? may psu na yung casing mo?
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #53 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 08:45 AM »
yes sir meron na po. 300W 80+ certified ang kasama sa SG05. Total cost around 17K+ without the harddrive. I was aiming on small itx case before like Apex or Minix Lx-01 kasi yung Sg-05 pede lagyan ng normal  pcie video card  para kung maisipan ko mag games in the future  :)

Quote from: Dowals on Jun 25, 2009 at 08:38 AM
@kool
how much did that setup cost you? may psu na yung casing mo?
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #54 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 08:54 AM »
sasamantalahin ko na... for reference na din

breakdown ng cost per part & where did you get them... kung ok lang naman  :)

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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #55 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 08:59 AM »
J&W - 6K
AMD: 3.5K
SG05 - 6.2K
Memory: 2.2K

sa tipidpc ko lahat nakita with different vendors.

Quote from: Dowals on Jun 25, 2009 at 08:54 AM
sasamantalahin ko na... for reference na din

breakdown ng cost per part & where did you get them... kung ok lang naman  :)


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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #56 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 09:02 AM »
thanks cool  :)
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #57 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 09:21 AM »
you're welcome sir :)
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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #58 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 09:25 AM »
Kay tamis ng "OO"!

Francis, siguraduhin mo lang na kayang-kaya ng CPU lahat ng bangkala ne.  Mabigat ang kalaban.   Might as well maximize the budget for the AMD chip itself.  Additional 1K might give you a lot more computing power beyond that price.

Holy box!!!  Napaka-cute ng casing mo pero kumasya yung 9" card!

Exciting!

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Re: Ultra-Low Power HTPC's for under 18k
« Reply #59 on: Jun 25, 2009 at 09:36 AM »
Yes sir napa OO ko din kasi Father's Day kaya yun na lang daw gift nya sa akin kahit ako lahat gumastos hehehe.
Some 1080p files played well but when I tried the Matrix , ayun na bumigay.I was using Klite codec then. Good thing I asked J&W tech support and gave me the right codec. Lo and behold, lahat ng Matrix nag play flawlessly ika nga  :D Then I checked CPU usage hindi tumataas ng 70%.

Planning to buy cpu cooler pero tolerable pa naman yung heat and noise since hindi masyado mainit yung system and cpu ko, lalo na yung NB. Very content talaga for the very cute rig  ;D

Quote from: Clondalkin on Jun 25, 2009 at 09:25 AM
Kay tamis ng "OO"!

Francis, siguraduhin mo lang na kayang-kaya ng CPU lahat ng bangkala ne.  Mabigat ang kalaban.   Might as well maximize the budget for the AMD chip itself.  Additional 1K might give you a lot more computing power beyond that price.

Holy box!!!  Napaka-cute ng casing mo pero kumasya yung 9" card!

Exciting!


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