Topic: Atheism/Agnosticism in the Philippines

[aHobbit]

The article you posted is from World Net Daily, a viciously right wing site filled with people who still think Obama is a secret Muslim terrorist born in Kenya. So that tosses your article's credibility out the window.

I just view this comment in the light of medieval times ...

When RC burned the heretics who do not believe the earth is round ... and overtime, the heretics are RIGHT!


The western media ... in the absence of proof (and faces big embarassment should proof be exposed) ... decided to put WND credibility to nothing (as if the mainstream media playing the other propaganda have proven their allegations).

Thus, it is a matter of time that WND position can be proven ... as states begin to put safeguard in their next presidential election some protection clause that is "declare the true nationality of a presidential candidate". Let's see if Obama will pass the test! Then I will join you in denouncing WND!

[oweidah]

First of all, I'd like to clarify that I am not an atheist. I'm a (semi)-practicing Catholic (although just two steps away from being agnostic).

I'm creating this post because I saw that Richard Dawkins' famous atheist book The God Delusion is readily available in local bookstores and I was wondering if, like in Europe, atheism/agnosticism in the Philippines is becoming just a tad more mainstream.

Do we have any atheists/agnostics on the board and are you open about it in real life?  

thread has evolved. 
meron ba atheists/agnostics dito sa pdvd? yan ang gusto malaman ng t.s.
 

[alistair]

thread has evolve.

Some would disagree and say it was "intelligently designed."

[oweidah]

Some would disagree and say it was "intelligently designed."

o.t.
ah ok. sensha na kulang ng "d". 

[Klaus Weasley]

I just view this comment in the light of medieval times ...

When RC burned the heretics who do not believe the earth is round ... and overtime, the heretics are RIGHT!


The western media ... in the absence of proof (and faces big embarassment should proof be exposed) ... decided to put WND credibility to nothing (as if the mainstream media playing the other propaganda have proven their allegations).

Thus, it is a matter of time that WND position can be proven ... as states begin to put safeguard in their next presidential election some protection clause that is "declare the true nationality of a presidential candidate". Let's see if Obama will pass the test! Then I will join you in denouncing WND!

The heretics were in the side of SCIENCE.

[barrister]

thread has evolved.  
meron ba atheists/agnostics dito sa pdvd? yan ang gusto malaman ng t.s.
 

Wala yata e.  Maybe a few?  Alfie and sardaukar?

Ok lang ang medyo OT.  Kasi kung strictly on topic, hindi man lang aabot ng 1 page ang comments, patay na agad ang thread na ito.

[aHobbit]

The heretics were in the side of SCIENCE.

and proving in court is as "scientific method" as Science, that those WND et. al. is pursuing ... and which the mainstream do not want to happen ... because they anticipate BIG EMBARASSMENT      

heretics of that day can prove as well ... but the mainstream will not hear of it! ... because their hold into power & influence will suddenly collapse      

[aHobbit]

Some would disagree and say it was "intelligently designed."

For the benefit of those not following the thread before these comments ...

Klaus questions the source of my posting to the rebuttal of Ray Comfort to the arguments of Steven Hawkins - another faulty champion of the Atheists  - as lacking credibility  because of the branding of mainstream western media!

So the apologetics on the contrary ... 

[Ice Storm]

Regardless of what you believe in so long as the person is an a-hole she/he/it will remain an a-hole.

Bow. 

[sardaukar]

Wala yata e.  Maybe a few?  Alfie and sardaukar?

Ok lang ang medyo OT.  Kasi kung strictly on topic, hindi man lang aabot ng 1 page ang comments, patay na agad ang thread na ito.

I'm Catholic, believe it or not.  But I question a lot of what the Church teaches.

[Alfie]

Wala yata e.  Maybe a few?  Alfie and sardaukar?

Ok lang ang medyo OT.  Kasi kung strictly on topic, hindi man lang aabot ng 1 page ang comments, patay na agad ang thread na ito.

barrister.....bat' mo naman ako sinali.....ukol lang nang trabajo ko na wag magsama nang religion....marami kasing na-si-siraan nang bait ukol diyan...he-he....Kaya nga hindi ako sumasali sa diskurso ninyo. 

[indie boi]

Regardless of what you believe in so long as the person is an a-hole she/he/it will remain an a-hole.

Bow. 

Now, this is Bible truth. 

[tigkal]

I too am a catholic by birth. I too have questions about the church. But it does not mean I will leave the church. A church is just a tool to help you understand.

[Alfie]

A church is just a tool to help you understand.

....or confuse you

................BTW a church is not a tool.....

[indie boi]

Agree with both Tigkal and Alfie. Sometimes, the most silent members make the most sense. 

[moejun]

Agree with both Tigkal and Alfie. Sometimes, the most silent members make the most sense. 

so those who copy and paste entire articles and those who make it a habit of quoting others (even though the posts are from way way back) don't make sense? NO! that can't be right!!! 

[tigkal]

....or confuse you

................BTW a church is not a tool.....

Yes I agree, it may confuse you, especially if you force yourself to accept all church teachings as true, and that all that is written on the bible is true, without considering the traditions, customs, biases, people have at that time. For me the church is just a tool,an aid, just so you can be guided to the right path. I am sure that when you die and meet your creator, the creator will not ask you what is your religion/church. If that is the case, I will agree that church is not a tool.

[indie boi]

I am sure that when you die and meet your creator, the creator will not ask you what is your religion/church.

Exactly. God is not petty or shallow.

[barrister]

barrister.....bat' mo naman ako sinali.....ukol lang nang trabajo ko na wag magsama nang religion....marami kasing na-si-siraan nang bait ukol diyan...he-he....Kaya nga hindi ako sumasali sa diskurso ninyo.  

 

Matindi talaga pag relihiyon, hindi lang nasisira ulo ... nagpapatayan pa nga e ...  

[indie boi]

Matindi talaga pag relihiyon, hindi lang nasisira ulo ... nagpapatayan pa nga e ...  

Kaya minsan you can't help but wonder if John Lennon was really right all along.

[aHobbit]

Agree with both Tigkal and Alfie. Sometimes, the most silent members make the most sense. 

... and you destroy their essence !!!     

[indie boi]

... and you destroy their essence !!!      

Sense sir. Hindi "essence." Mga lalaki to, wala silang "essence." HAHA!

You don't usually use the word "essence" to describe a man. Nakakatawa ka talaga sir Pabili. You're crazy!

Masyado ka namang matampuhin. Are you getting affected because I'm saying the posts of these guys make sense? Do you feel left out? Nalolongkot? 

[aHobbit]

Sense sir. Hindi "essence." Mga lalaki to, wala silang "essence." HAHA!

You don't usually use the word "essence" to describe a man. Nakakatawa ka talaga sir Pabili. You're crazy!

at gusto mo pang kuhanin ko pa ang intelligence mo ... tawanan mo ang sarili mo ... ito ang bandera mo!      

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essence

Masyado ka namang matampuhin. Are you getting affected because I'm saying the posts of these guys make sense? Do you feel left out? Nalolongkot?  

  fantasizing again! left out ... in the internet?        Do you know how many threads are dead in pinoydvd? or you just don't have idea!  

Get a life!   Get real!  

[dpogs]

Sense sir. Hindi "essence." Mga lalaki to, wala silang "essence." HAHA!

You don't usually use the word "essence" to describe a man. Nakakatawa ka talaga sir Pabili. You're crazy!

Masyado ka namang matampuhin. Are you getting affected because I'm saying the posts of these guys make sense? Do you feel left out? Nalolongkot? 

correction: mali ang spelling ... ang tama dapat ay "Nalulungkot?"


ayos... naka correct din...   next time english naman...   

[indie boi]

correction: mali ang spelling ... ang tama dapat ay "Nalulungkot?"


ayos... naka correct din...  next time english naman...  

Haha! Sorry to disappoint you dpogs, tama yung spelling ko, if you know anything about Philippine pop culture.

I'll let the others explain na lang. Peace!

To Sir Pabili, hahayaan ko na lang kayo sir. Di ko na pagkakait ang konting kaligayahan nyong nalalabi. Alam ko kung ilan ang dead threads sa PDVD, and FYI nakikita ko din ang mga deleted posts at pwede ko ding i-undelete if need be.

Basta ang advice ko lang, para wag mapahiya double-check muna ang signed account sa PDVD at kung anong thread ang binabasa.  

[dpogs]

Haha! Sorry to disappoint you dpogs, tama yung spelling ko, if you know anything about Philippine pop culture.

hmmm.... tama pala ang spelling ng "longkot"... hehehe

[Ice Storm]

....or confuse you

................BTW a church is not a tool.....

You only get confused if you allow yourself to get confused.

Some members of the Church are just tools.

[Ice Storm]

Now, this is Bible truth. 

You must be talking about Leviticus 18:22!

Remember folks we cannot eat food that Leviticus 11:10-12 bans! Or else you go to hell!

[barrister]

Haha! Sorry to disappoint you dpogs, tama yung spelling ko, if you know anything about Philippine pop culture.

I'll let the others explain na lang. Peace!

Yes, tama 'yan.  It's a humorous expression.

Ang origin ay TV commercial ng adult phone pals.  Tawag ka, bayad ka via credit card, may makakausap ka for a fixed period.  Nagkatotoo yung 1970s expression, "Wala akong panahong makipag-usap sa 'yo, 'eto singko, bumili ka ng kausap mo" .  

Sabi ng TV commercial (which only airs past midnight), "Ikaw ba'y nalulungkot, at walang makausap?"  Kaya lang, may pagka-Bisaya ang accent ng female voice-over.

Gumawa ng spoof si Amy Perez sa noontime show MTB (Magandang Tanghali Bayan), ang sabi niya...  "Ikaw ba'y nalolongkot?".  Naging hit yung expression na yon, hanggang ngayon ginagamit pa rin.  

E yung "Ibalik ang suwirti", alam mo ang origin?  

[indie boi]

E yung "Ibalik ang suwirti", alam mo ang origin?  

By the way, tama ang spelling ng "suwirti" in this context.