Topic: my solution to "hard to play" 1080p mkv file/s

[praktikal]

amigos, anong remedyo ninyo sa mga 1080p na halos di mapakinabangan?

may celine d. concert ako na ayaw tumino sa kahit na anong (htpc) player ang gamitin. nariyan ang xbmc, vlc, mpc, kmp, bsp (not boy scout neh  ), etc... ayaw ng damuho...

sayang naman kung idelete ko na lang basta, so what i did, nag download ako ng free video converter (http://www.koyotesoft.com/indexEn.html) then ibinaba ko sa 720p. ayun!

hth 

[Clondalkin]

Very "practical" solution para sa mga damuhong 1080p files.   

[praktikal]

Very "practical" solution para sa mga damuhong 1080p files.   

[anya618]

gaano katagal sir pagconvert ng 1080p to 720p? me diff ba mapapansin sa sq?

[praktikal]

gaano katagal sir pagconvert ng 1080p to 720p? me diff ba mapapansin sa sq?

ang buong concert inabot ng mga 5hrs. pasado 12mn ko iniwan kanina tapos paggising ko ng mga 5am patapos pa lang. sa preview kasi nakalagay 10fps so medyo slow talaga pero once played, i think balik sa 30fps. di ko pa gaanong nakilatis ang converted file kasi paalis na ako kanina pero parang same lang. you have to try siguro other files kasi although 1080p bluray copy e di naman naka 5.1. best to try yung with dts.

[dm1179]

me diff ba mapapansin sa sq?

kung ang ico-convert mo ay ung mga 1080p videos na problematic, di mo rin mapapansin ung difference. in the first place, di mo nga mapanuod ng maayos ung 1080p videos na un kaya gusto mo iconvert to 720p to make it playable. opinyon lang po.  

[Clondalkin]

Anong resulting file extension Praktikal?   Mkv pa rin ba or something else na? 

[praktikal]

Anong resulting file extension Praktikal?   Mkv pa rin ba or something else na? 

dvd ntsc ang pinili ko. but you have many options like; avi, wmv, mpeg1&2, mp4, etc.

[Clondalkin]

dvd ntsc ang pinili ko. but you have many options like; avi, wmv, mpeg1&2, mp4, etc.

Thanks Bro. Im using a similar video converter (Xilisoft) from MKV to MP4 naman for Iphone use.  Yes I can imagine mga 5 hours or so nga aabutin ng conversion ng 1080p files mo.  I also do my conversion while sleeping kase aside from the long time, that process is quite heavy on CPU resource usage too.

Didnt you recently build a new HTPC?   Merong damuhong 1080p files na di makaya?   Have you tried CoreAVC 1.8.5 or later?

[praktikal]

Didnt you recently build a new HTPC?   Merong damuhong 1080p files na di makaya?   Have you tried CoreAVC 1.8.5 or later?

eto specs ko: AMD X2 5000+ , Emaxx 780g , Team Elite 2x1gb DDR2-800.

itong Celine Dion Live in Las Vegas 1080p lang naman ang talagang problematic. ang kay Andrea Bocelli Vivere Live in Tuscany 1080p naman choppy sa MPC pero acceptable sa XBMC. wala namang problema sa mga 1080p movies.

[jambam]

problema ko rin yan last week .. Nagpalit ako ng cpu from Athlon 4200xp to athlon 240 with slight overclock  2.2Ghz to 3.08Ghz.. AT least ngayon ok naman

[Clondalkin]

eto specs ko: AMD X2 5000+ , Emaxx 780g , Team Elite 2x1gb DDR2-800.

itong Celine Dion Live in Las Vegas 1080p lang naman ang talagang problematic. ang kay Andrea Bocelli Vivere Live in Tuscany 1080p naman choppy sa MPC pero acceptable sa XBMC. wala namang problema sa mga 1080p movies.

Medyo mas madugo nga ang concert mkvs in 1080p kase ang bilis ng soundstream compared to movie dialogues.  If you havent tried CoreAVC, I suggest you should - just send me a PM.  

[moejun]

xilisoft video converter ultimate is really useful. however, it's quite resource hungry.

[Clondalkin]

Post ko na rin dito.   Follow this procedure properly and your dual-core powered PC should be able to play any kind of 1080p mkv smoothly with powerful DTS sound output;  including super heavyweight ones the could make NMTs stu-tu-tu-tu-tter.  

http://www.projecthtpc.co.uk/htpc_software08.html

BTW, I havent tried the MediaPortal installation part (on top of KMP) because I'm very simplistic and I grew up with DOS.   

[HD_MOVIES]

eto specs ko: AMD X2 5000+ , Emaxx 780g , Team Elite 2x1gb DDR2-800.

itong Celine Dion Live in Las Vegas 1080p lang naman ang talagang problematic. ang kay Andrea Bocelli Vivere Live in Tuscany 1080p naman choppy sa MPC pero acceptable sa XBMC. wala namang problema sa mga 1080p movies.

more than enough for any 1080p's. tried this 1080p celine dion concert and my CPU utilization is less than 20%..
it could be a codec issue.. we have almost the same hardware; x2 5400 black ed, gigabyte 780g, 2gb ddr2, win7, MPC with dxva turned on.

baka maraming naka-install na mga codecs..

[praktikal]

baka maraming naka-install na mga codecs..

actually, isa lang. kaya ako nag try ng ibang players after kong iupgrade ang codec ng mpc na wala namang improvement. now, with amigong clondalkin's help... 

[praktikal]

isang napakalaking THANK YOU yahohoooo!!! sa 'yo amigong Clondalkin.

tiniis ko kahit mahilu-hilo na ako sa antok mainstall ko lang. SULIT! as in FLAWLESS!!! 

kaya naman ako natagalan kasi binura ko pa ang mga existing players and filters, kaso nakaligtaan kong alisin ang K-Lite codec the reason why ayaw lumabas ng CoreAVC as codec for KMPlayer. kaya sa mga susubok nito, make sure talaga na maalis n'yo muna ang mga installed codecs para hetso-deretso ang install. sa case ko e di ko napansin 

but now, ayos na ayos na si celine yun nga lang e hindi dts ang concert na yun but with the help of amigong Clon, aba'y saan ka pa. goodbye stu-tu-te-te-ring 1080p files. 

mabuhay ang PDVD! at sa kagaya ni amigong Clon na naipamamahagi ang mga nalalaman.

magshift pa ba ako sa NMT? 

[Clondalkin]

Very hapi for you Amigong Praktikal!  

Yung Celine file mo itself ay hindi DTS ang soundstream or ayaw lang lumabas ng DTS?    In case DTS yung laman ng file, i-set mo lang ng maayos yung AC3Filter ayun dun sa procedure.  

PC and NMT under one household co-exist very very very nicely and conveniently especially kung meron kang pinakamamahal na anak(s) na binabakuran ang PC sa chatting or gaming.    

Hanggang sa susunod na PC adventure Bro.  Cheers!

[praktikal]

unfortunately, hindi talaga dts ang celine kaya kumbaga sayang naman ang 1080p tapos stereo lang 

fortunately, di pa mahilig sa chatting or gaming ang mga anak ko  may advantage din ang dial-up lang  bukod sa iniiwas namin sila sa pc gaming and instead mag outdoor sports na lang sila.

[keema]

sir clondakin, ano po tong coreAVC? codec po ba toh or player na din?

tnx..

[Dowals]

CoreAVC is a codec

coreAVC + kmp is best for my files

[keema]

salamat sir dowals..

@ sir practical, ano po yung filters? and papano po ma-aalis un?

[praktikal]

CoreAVC is a codec

coreAVC + kmp is best for my files

agree! although mukhang may anik-anik pang natira sa pc ko na di ko nabura ng husto kasi after ko magreboot nawawala ang audio.  sa weekend ko pa maaayos.

MPC - ok sa mga 720p pero may ibang 1080p na sablay
XBMC - kaya nya i-play ang di kaya ng MPC pero not as flawless as KMP+CoreAVC. tapos with my system, lahat ng palabas may mga lumalabas na parang "dinudugsong"/split-frame (horizontal) and again walang panama sa KMP.

[biggus_dickus]

If you have a later model 8 or 9 series nVidia graphics card, you can take advantage of its CUDA features to offload the h.264 processing of .mkv files from the CPU to the graphics card.  You will need CoreAVC 1.9.5 to make use of CUDA.

Here was my setup before:

CPU = 1.8 to 2.0 GHz Intel Dual Core
Video resolution = 1080p

using CCCP = 80-100% CPU utilization (either it stutters and loses frames, or plays really choppy)
using CoreAVC = 50-90% CPU utilization (very little to no stutter)
using nVidia 9500 video card with CUDA + CoreAVC 1.9.5 = 15-35% CPU utilization!!    (Flawless!)

If you want a good 1080p test video, try Chicago in 1080p.  Check mo yun 1st song na All That Jazz at yun last song of the movie.  It will really tax your system!  This is my benchmark for setting up a 1080p-capable HTPC.

[Arulco]

@ praktikal

Since you are using a 780G board with the HD3200 IGP, why not use the built in UVD feature of the IGP through hardware bitstreaming.

You can try doing it with Media Player Classic - Home Cinema (from k-lite or cccp) as long as you configure it correctly by using the EVR output in the program options and ticking the h264(dxva) and vc1(dxva) options in the internal filters. Make sure you have the latest ATI Catalyst Drivers installed for good measure. As for the audio, you can use either AC3 or ffdshow.

[praktikal]

@ praktikal

Since you are using a 780G board with the HD3200 IGP, why not use the built in UVD feature of the IGP through hardware bitstreaming.

You can try doing it with Media Player Classic - Home Cinema as long as you configure it correctly by using the EVR output in the program options and ticking the h264(dxva) and vc1(dxva) options in the internal filters. Make sure you have the latest ATI Catalyst Drivers installed for good measure. As for the audio, you can use either AC3 or ffdshow.

salamat.

i'll consider that pero try ko din muna upgrade ang audio driver.

[Arulco]

BTW, bitstreaming also works with nvidia products that have purevideoHD. I get lower cpu utilization with this method compared to cuda/coreavc. ymmv depending on the setup.

[praktikal]

ayos na!

a simple sound driver upgrade lang ang katapat.

salamat nga din pala kay EJ of Questlogic. di ako nagkamaling sa kanila bumili ng htpc, kaya sa mga nagbabalak pa lang alam nyo na kung saan magpabuo  

btw, dts nga pala ang Celine concert. 

[keema]

Sir practikal..papano ko malalaman na ung KMP ko ang ginagamit nya is yung coreAVC codec?


salamat po..

[gunblade977]

let me try to answer that sir keema..

I just followed the link sir clondalkin gave since I am getting 80%  CPU utilization before... now thanks to the link I'm getting 40% .

here's  the snippet from the link:
Tip: While playing an .mkv file in KMPlayer press the Ctrl+Tab keys to bring up the file info.  COREAVC should be displayed as the Video decoder and you should get the Haali Media Splitter Icon in your taskbar.