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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #270 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 05:16 AM »
wats the diff with wdtv2 and wdtv live?

the live i guess is below 7k nalang...

for one, the live decodes dts audio while the wd needs an avr that is dts capable to decode the dts track.
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #271 on: Feb 23, 2010 at 09:49 AM »
anyone tried using wifi internet na to watch youtube?

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #272 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 04:22 PM »
guys tanong lang..
san ba makakabili ng remote ng wdtv? nawala kc ung remote ko..
sana matulungan nyo ko..
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #273 on: Feb 24, 2010 at 08:40 PM »
guys tanong lang..
san ba makakabili ng remote ng wdtv? nawala kc ung remote ko..
sana matulungan nyo ko..
salamat po mga idol..

Is your wdtv under warranty? if yes go here-->http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php. If it is no longer covered try universal remote like logitec harmony but the price is almost wdtv cost.

You may also sell it here even w/o remote. if you're interested selling it at lower price pm me hehe ;D

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #274 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 10:37 AM »
Guys, help me decide naman..nahihirapan ako what to buy..Xtreamer Media Player or WDTV Live?need feedbacks!! thanks!!

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #275 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 03:54 PM »
Is your wdtv under warranty? if yes go here-->http://wdc.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/wdc.cfg/php/enduser/ask.php. If it is no longer covered try universal remote like logitec harmony but the price is almost wdtv cost.

You may also sell it here even w/o remote. if you're interested selling it at lower price pm me hehe ;D


wala ng warranty boss eh.. hay hirap palang maghanap ng remote nito..
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #276 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 04:28 PM »
Guys, help me decide naman..nahihirapan ako what to buy..Xtreamer Media Player or WDTV Live?need feedbacks!! thanks!!

What's your quandary about?   Specifics.

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #277 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 04:49 PM »
wala ng warranty boss eh.. hay hirap palang maghanap ng remote nito..

It would be costly but probably worth it to buy a Harmony remote ;)
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #278 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 04:52 PM »
wala ng warranty boss eh.. hay hirap palang maghanap ng remote nito..

Yan ang hirap sa wdtv & other nmts walang option to control sa unit, sayang benta mo na lang post mo sa market place tapos bili ka na lang ng latest nmt like extreamer, WDTV live or med8r/HD-Pro (me control button sa unit). just my advice ::)

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #279 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 05:18 PM »
has anyone here tried to change skins sa display? if so pwede post the work around details hehehe

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #280 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 05:38 PM »
wala ng warranty boss eh.. hay hirap palang maghanap ng remote nito..

I think even if the wdtv is still under warranty, loss of remote is not covered.

There is someone in ebay selling wdtv remotes for $15. But I'm not sure if he will agree to shipping to the Philippines.

http://cgi.ebay.com/WDTV-Remote-WDTV001RNN-Works-with-WDTV-Live-Mini-NEW_W0QQitemZ130369236346QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_2?hash=item1e5a9cad7a#ht_500wt_1052

Buying a harmony remote is also a good idea even if costly, since aside from the WDTV you get to control other devices such as your tv, dvd player, avr etc.

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #281 on: Feb 25, 2010 at 05:41 PM »
Guys, help me decide naman..nahihirapan ako what to buy..Xtreamer Media Player or WDTV Live?need feedbacks!! thanks!!

I think there have been a lot of discussions already about the two and other NMTs, even direct comparisons between the two. Back read na lang ng konti bro and welcome to PinoyDVD. Cheers!  :)
« Last Edit: Feb 25, 2010 at 05:42 PM by gaol »

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #282 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 09:09 AM »
@Clondalkin - Basically sir more on movies ang balak ko...ngwoworry lang if it can smoothly play high bitrate HD movies..yung mga 40-50GB movies..kayanin kaya ng Xtreamer to?sa internet naman..maybe some radio stations and a little of youtube videos..thats it!!

@Gaol - Thanks sir!

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #283 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 09:40 AM »
@Clondalkin - Basically sir more on movies ang balak ko...ngwoworry lang if it can smoothly play high bitrate HD movies..yung mga 40-50GB movies..kayanin kaya ng Xtreamer to?sa internet naman..maybe some radio stations and a little of youtube videos..thats it!!

I think both will be OK in terms of playback. 

BTW, those 40-50GB pure BD rips are much lighter on a media player/streamer than those high bit rate 1080p MKV.  I guarantee you.  It seems the compression to MKV is adding a lot of  burden to playback because the device needs to decode the file first, whereas, if it's a pure BD rip, "derecho" playback.  Well tested ko na eto sa Egreat 31B and Mede8er and maganda talaga ang IQ/PQ if it's pure BD rip.  The Mede8er even supports subtitles for pure BD rips.   But, and there is a but, the main issue is, can your player at least downmix DTSMA/HD or TrueHD?  If it can pass-through these HD audio variants then even better -dito magaling ang Egreat 31B naman.

So here are your considerations: 

Realtek based players:   No HD audio passthrough yet (puro unfulfilled promises palang and walang linaw if this will ever happen sa current gen players).  Likely capable of DTSMA/HD downmix to DTS, but probably not capable of anything with regard to TrueHD.

Sigma based players:  More likely capable of HD audio passthrough because older gen players like PCH and Egreat are capable of this nga.  Should be able to dowmix DTSMA/HD and TrueHD as well.  Hence, the WDTV Live might be the better device on this regard, or the one that has better potential. 

As for secondary functions and features of NMTs, I'd rather not comment too much except to say that the PC is so much better and reliable still.






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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #284 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 02:46 PM »
tried to play Blade Trinity.mp4 720p movie and im getting stutters tried this on my htpc and doesn't have problems... is the wdtv live not compatible to mp4's?

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #285 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 03:15 PM »
Guys do you know if I can hide the small display that appears when I pause a video? because it covers the subtitle which I need to read, thanks..

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #286 on: Feb 26, 2010 at 03:31 PM »
^If wdtv live is the same as the original wdtv you can press the enter button.
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #287 on: Feb 27, 2010 at 02:17 PM »
^ Thanks man but sadly it doesn't work for Live

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #288 on: Feb 27, 2010 at 02:42 PM »
Is this better than xtream?
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #289 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 11:14 AM »
very much better than the xtreamer coz it uses the new sigma chip... way sexier than the xtreamer too...

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« Reply #290 on: Feb 28, 2010 at 10:52 PM »
very much better than the xtreamer coz it uses the new sigma chip... way sexier than the xtreamer too...

Wag ganun... a newer chip doesn't make a product automatically superior.  Neither does sexiness. :D

Both has pros and cons, and it's really up to what the buyer needs in a media player.  And as said above, there are already many discussions about these two players and how they compare, so those threads would be helpful.
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #291 on: Mar 01, 2010 at 08:42 AM »
ahhh oki maybe this one nalang...

"Realtek based NMTs can't decode TrueHD/DTS-MA -> Confirmed!"

it has a thread about it na...

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #292 on: Mar 02, 2010 at 09:54 AM »
ahhh oki maybe this one nalang...

"Realtek based NMTs can't decode TrueHD/DTS-MA -> Confirmed!"

it has a thread about it na...

Ok/confirmed na ba ang DTS-HD/MA and Dolby TrueHD pass-thru sa WDTV Live?

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #293 on: Mar 02, 2010 at 11:56 AM »
Yup...

pero BD folder format dapat (not MKV muxed with HD Audio) same as A-200/C-200. It won't play DVD/BD Menus though maski pa ISO ang format.

I now realize where all the hullabaloo about HD Audio started.

MKV/MP4 didn't officially support HD audio streams sa container but apparently that didn't stop enthusiasts from creating their own encodes and getting them to work (Sigma 863x based players).

Since it wasn't officially supported by MKV in the first place, there was no guarantee it would work when newer generation of players came out which is why there's so much noise from users who upgrade media players finding their old "unofficial" encodes no longer worked.

Now that new Sigma based players are using 864x/865x, you won't be able to play HD Audio muxed in with MKVs using tsMuxer/Mkvmerge. You have to rip your content to ISO or BD folders (m2ts).

So if one really wants to keep around content muxed the unofficial way, best to keep your Sigma 863x based players around.

We'll have to wait for Realtek 1073+ or 1873+ based players to see if they will play MKV muxed with HD Audio.


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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #294 on: Mar 02, 2010 at 01:33 PM »
We'll have to wait for Realtek 1073+ or 1873+ based players to see if they will play MKV muxed with HD Audio.

May problem ba talaga eto?  I have some new 1080p Framestor encodes with DTS-HD/MA.  That's the signature of that encoding group.  I'd try them when I get to touch the Mede8er again in a few weeks.

But teka muna, when I was in Manila last Xmas, I tried Cujo 720p mkv with DTS-MA and the Mede8er successfully played that - sound was downmixed to DTS though - my HTPCs were all dumb on that file...completely silent. 

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #295 on: Mar 02, 2010 at 02:15 PM »
That's core audio ata po...

Even sa xtreamer ko I remember I could get that to work. What people wanted was to get HD Audio recognized sa AVR.

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #296 on: Mar 02, 2010 at 02:27 PM »
What Im saying is that the Mede8er can output sound whether it be from pure BD rips (m2ts) or MKV as long as it's not Dolby TrueHD.  But my AVR recognizes it only as DTS. (yeah it could be the 1500kbps DTS core audio or some kind of downmixing of the 4500kbps HD audio  - my Yamaha 757 is not HD compliant in the 1st place) - sound quality is pretty awesome though.


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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #297 on: Mar 07, 2010 at 01:19 AM »
Is this better than xtream?
It's better than xtreamer with regards to fast detection of attached drive, better navigation/gui/interface, firmware flexibility and has passive cooling, so it's completely silent.
Personally I do not like internal hdds for nmts because it means it will require fan, thus added noise.
The only drawback for wdtv live is that I cannot attach more than 2 hdds, and using usb hub is no go(but from my googling this can be done thru custom firmware update).
But of course there are some features present in xtreamer that you may find better and cannot be found on wd. Best is to audition it yourself.  :D
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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #298 on: Mar 24, 2010 at 11:24 PM »
might be useful for wdtv live owners  http://wiki.wdlxtv.com

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Re: WDTV LIVE / WDTV2 Media Player
« Reply #299 on: Mar 25, 2010 at 12:08 AM »
May I ask for help, please?

Does WDTV Live have problems playing .m2ts files? My officemate bought last week a WDTV Live from Greenhills.

He tried playing 2 BD ripped m2ts movies, one was 15 GB in size and the other 12 GB. The movies would play well for 2 to 3 minutes and then it would start to be quirky as the movements on the screen would slow down for a minute or so, then resume normal playing for another two minutes and then starts to be quirky again.

We played the movies on another media player, supposedly an older one but different brand, and the movies played without any problems.

The firmware on the WDTV Live was updated to 1.01.24 upon connection to the Internet and there was no problem with that.

This is very disappointing considering that the WDTV Live has a newer and faster processor.

Maybe someone have the answer to this?
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