Topic: The Religion Thread

[jerix]

Maybe this should be answered in the context of the TRINITY doctrine

[pTrader]

Maybe this should be answered in the context of the TRINITY doctrine

Ang Ama ay Diyos, ang Anak ay Diyos at ang Banal na Espiritu ay Dios. Sila ay Diyos (inde mga dios).

[jerix]

Maybe you will agree with me that God the Son is Flesh, God the Spirit is spirit but how about God the Father? Is he in between being flesh and a spirit? or that God the father is only an idea?

[pTrader]

Maybe you will agree with me that God the Son is Flesh, God the Spirit is spirit but how about God the Father? Is he in between being flesh and a spirit? or that God the father is only an idea?

Oneness theology ba ito?

[Quitacet]

Please help me, what is that GOD nature? Is it similar to SPIRIT nature?

Juan 4:24

"Ang Diyos ay Espiritu at ang mga sumasamba sa kanya ay dapat siyang sambahin sa espiritu at sa katotohanan.”

kaya di kailangan ng mga imahen dahil walang imahen ang espiritu.

Maging ang imahen ni Jesus na ginagamit ngayon ay hindi siyang tunay na mukha ni Jesus

[jerix]

So yung God the father na tinatawag at god the holy spirit pala ay kapwa ispirito. Kung silang tatlo ay existing na sa una palang sino ang god the son bago isinilang si Kristo?

[dpogs]

So yung God the father na tinatawag at god the holy spirit pala ay kapwa ispirito. Kung silang tatlo ay existing na sa una palang sino ang god the son bago isinilang si Kristo?

God the Son pa rin.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

[bumblebee]

Meaning nung baby si Jesus, me isip na sya?

[jerix]

God the Son pa rin.

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Paano naman nangyari yun? Di ba nag conceive muna si Virgin Mary na parang magic kasi wala namang nakapartner, at later pinanganak siya as flesh. So before that wala munang God the son na in the flesh or else di siya magkakasya sa sinapupunan ni Mary.

[dpogs]

Concieved by the God the Spirit, isinilang ng isang birhen. Ipinanganak na tao at Diyos si Jesus. Not half/half, ipinanganal na tao at Diyos.

Di ko rin alam paano nangyari iyon :-(  it is how the Holy Spirit works, full of wonder, kaya nga God is wonderful. There ia nothing impossible to God.

[barrister]

Iba-iba ang paniniwala diyan.

Catholics believe Jesus, while on earth, was fully God and fully human.

The INC believes Jesus was human only, not God.

Jehovah's Witnesses believe Jesus is not God, not man, but the Archangel Michael who took human form. 

Oneness Pentecostals believe God is one person only; the Son existed only when he was born on earth; before He became flesh, He was the Father.

Depende sa intindi mo sa bible.

[bumblebee]

Concieved by the God the Spirit, isinilang ng isang birhen. Ipinanganak na tao at Diyos si Jesus. Not half/half, ipinanganal na tao at Diyos.

Di ko rin alam paano nangyari iyon :-(  it is how the Holy Spirit works, full of wonder, kaya nga God is wonderful. There ia nothing impossible to God.

Kung tao at Diyos, meron na ba syang isip nung baby pa sya?

[pTrader]

Kung tao at Diyos, meron na ba syang isip nung baby pa sya?

ang baby may isip din, kung walang isip inde niya mapapagalaw yung katawan niya..

[dpogs]

Kung tao at Diyos, meron na ba syang isip nung baby pa sya?

Yup. I want to believe that. Dito mo makikita pagiging Diyos niya at pagiging tao.

[bumblebee]

Yup. I want to believe that. Dito mo makikita pagiging Diyos niya at pagiging tao.

Creepy. Pano na kung gusto nyang dumede?

[sirhc]

Creepy. Pano na kung gusto nyang dumede?

Whats the issue with that? Its just nature's avenue for nourishing your child. Why make a fuss about this?

[DVD_Freak]

Hahahaha!  Really?  You need to ask that?   

Creepy. Pano na kung gusto nyang dumede?

[sirhc]

Reading this led me to wonder, what would be the bible's or Jesus' stand regarding living on humble means? I know that Jesus at the very least is a proponent but I would like to see a more comprehensive take on the matter.

Thanks.

[bumblebee]

Whats the issue with that? Its just nature's avenue for nourishing your child. Why make a fuss about this?

Hahahaha!  Really?  You need to ask that?   

Oo naman. Imagine a baby, who baby talks, who's fragile, tapos merong isip? Kapag ba meron syang napulot na bagay, sinusubo nya ri ba like other babies? Tahimik lang ba sya palagi?

[DVD_Freak]

Oo naman. Imagine a baby, who baby talks, who's fragile, tapos merong isip? Kapag ba meron syang napulot na bagay, sinusubo nya ri ba like other babies? Tahimik lang ba sya palagi?

And the relevance nung pagdede in the overall discussion would be?

[bumblebee]

Hindi kasi ako naniniwala sa ganoong paniniwala e. So, explain to me how does a god in baby form behave.

[pTrader]

Hindi kasi ako naniniwala sa ganoong paniniwala e. So, explain to me how does a god in baby form behave.

ano ba yung pinaniniwalaan mo para maintindihan ng nakababasa para ma-itumpak yung sagot sa baby form behave...

[Quitacet]

Paano naman nangyari yun? Di ba nag conceive muna si Virgin Mary na parang magic kasi wala namang nakapartner, at later pinanganak siya as flesh. So before that wala munang God the son na in the flesh or else di siya magkakasya sa sinapupunan ni Mary.

sa INC Logos (word) si Jesus nang una, wala pang kasiyangaan kundi plano ng Diyos. Natupad ang plano nang ipanganak ni Maria (dapat ding suriin ang pagkabirhen dahil sa gospels, isang lang ang gumamit ng birhen (si mateo sa pagkakatanda ko at si mark at Lukas ay hindi) at namatay at nabuhay.

Almah (young woman)  at Betulah (virgin) sa Hebrew. Almah ang karaniwang ginagamit ay hindi Betulah.

Kung si Hesus aat ang Ama ay iisa sa pagkaDiyos, suriin mo ito:

nagkasala ang tao sa Diyos
Kinailangang magkatawang tao ng Diyos at maging Anak Niya ang kanyang sarili at patayin nya ang Kanyang Anak na Siya rin yun upang tubusin ang tao mula sa kanya ring sarili
ang mga yan ay para mapatawad Niya ang mga tao sa kanilang mga kasalanan, sa Kanya rin.

[bumblebee]

ano ba yung pinaniniwalaan mo para maintindihan ng nakababasa para ma-itumpak yung sagot sa baby form behave...

Ako nga yung nagtatanong e, para maintindihan ko. Wala ka bang sagot?

[pTrader]

Ako nga yung nagtatanong e, para maintindihan ko. Wala ka bang sagot?

eto yung sinabe mo:

Hindi kasi ako naniniwala sa ganoong paniniwala

need lang maintindihan para masagot ng ayos.

to answer a bit, Jesus needed to undergo the normal human process from infanthood to adulthood, just  like we are (setting aside muna yung God nature niya). Read Philipians 2...

[bumblebee]

So, naka-off muna yung God mode? San nasusulat ito? I checked Philipians 2, parang wala naman.

[pTrader]

So, naka-off muna yung God mode? San nasusulat ito? I checked Philipians 2, parang wala naman.

para malinaw hinubad niya ito mas akma  yata sa setting aise na sinabe ko.

nasa verse 7

6Na siya, bagama't nasa anyong Dios, ay hindi niya inaring isang bagay na nararapat panangnan ang pagkapantay niya sa Dios, 7Kundi bagkus hinubad niya ito, at naganyong alipin, na nakitulad sa mga tao: 8At palibhasa'y nasumpungan sa anyong tao, siya'y nagpakababa sa kaniyang sarili, na nagmasunurin hanggang sa kamatayan, oo, sa kamatayan sa krus.

[bumblebee]

^I get that verse. It's about humility.

Iba naman kasi yung tanong ko e.

[pTrader]

I get that part. It's about humility.

Iba naman kasi yung tanong ko e.

siguro mas magandang tanong "how does Jesus behave as a  baby?"

[bumblebee]

siguro mas magandang tanong "how does Jesus behave as a  baby?"

Okay, sige. How does Jesus behave as a  baby?