Author Topic: The Religion Thread (Read 362790 times)

tony · « **Reply #2132 on:** Apr 07, 2016 at 04:37 PM »

http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/07/protestant-leaders-declare-reunification-of-churches-under-the-holy-see/

dpogs · « **Reply #2133 on:** Apr 07, 2016 at 05:04 PM »

Quote from: tony on Apr 07, 2016 at 04:37 PM

http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/07/protestant-leaders-declare-reunification-of-churches-under-the-holy-see/

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...we participate in the sacrament of the Eucharist by accepting the actual body and blood of Christ, an event known as Transubstantiation, at the conclusion of the holy mass....

Tama ba pagkakabasa ko? Actual na katawan at dugo ni Jesus?

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As part of their induction into the Catholic faith, all Protestants above the age of fifteen are required to undergo a Catholic Confirmation, one of three sacraments of initiation, out of seven total, which Catholics can receive. “Most, if not all, of us have been baptized,” said Father Brogran. “However, without formal Confirmation, our Protestant baptisms will be null, thus preventing us from entering the Kingdom of Heaven.”

Kailan pa sinabi sa Bible na "formal Confirmation" is needed or required for entering Heaven?

tony · « **Reply #2134 on:** Apr 07, 2016 at 07:48 PM »

^hindi ko alam yan, hindi pa ako nakarating doon....

dpogs · « **Reply #2135 on:** Apr 07, 2016 at 08:35 PM »

Quote from: tony on Apr 07, 2016 at 07:48 PM

^hindi ko alam yan, hindi pa ako nakarating doon....

Pero bilang isang catholic, yan ang paniniwala niyo?

- Transubstantiation - bread and wine becomes the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ
- Catholic Confirmatuon is necessary to enter the Kingdom of Heaven

tony · « **Reply #2136 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 07:23 AM »

kaya nga by faith ang religion, if you believe......
in the end it is not what we say here on earth that will matter,
but how your God will see you as a human being...

dpogs · « **Reply #2137 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 07:29 AM »

Quote from: tony on Apr 08, 2016 at 07:23 AM

kaya nga by faith and religion, if you believe......

ahh ok... tama ngang parang INC ang RC... if you did not conform di ka maliligtas (outside of INC/RC you're doomed.)

outside of INC/RC you're doomed.

tony · « **Reply #2138 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 07:36 AM »

who are you to judge?

dpogs · « **Reply #2139 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 07:56 AM »

Quote from: tony on Apr 08, 2016 at 07:36 AM

who are you to judge?

I just read the article it mentioned that - "Catholic Confirmation is needed to enter the Kingdom of Heaven", and you also confirmed it - "faith and religion".

Quote from: tony on Apr 08, 2016 at 07:23 AM

in the end it is not what we say here on earth that will matter,
but how your God will see you as a human being...

If we read the Bible, we are all sinners before God (Romans 3:10-12 KJV). Kaya nga may kasabihan na "we are all equal before the eyes of God" because we are all sinners.

It is not really how God see us as human being... but what really matters both here on earth and in heaven is our faith to Jesus Christ.

tony · « **Reply #2140 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 09:47 AM »

you will be judged hindi sa kung ano ano ang pinagsasabi mo nung nabubuhay ka pa,
but i hope He will see what was in your heart at kung paano mo inlagaan ang kanyang kawan...

bumblebee · « **Reply #2141 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 09:57 AM »

Quote from: dpogs on Apr 08, 2016 at 07:56 AM

If we read the Bible, we are all sinners before God (Romans 3:10-12 KJV). Kaya nga may kasabihan na "we are all equal before the eyes of God" because we are all sinners.

I thought we're all equal because we are God's children. What happened to that?

dpogs · « **Reply #2142 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 10:31 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2016 at 09:57 AM

I thought we're all equal because we are God's children. What happened to that?

The fall of Adam to sin and sin passed to all human except Jesus because He is not of Adam seed.

We have now son of Adam and son of God. Kaya nga amg sabi ni Jesus "except a man be born again he cannot see/enter the Kingsom of God" because Jesus knows that not all are children of God.

bumblebee · « **Reply #2143 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 10:45 AM »

Quote from: dpogs on Apr 08, 2016 at 10:31 AM

The fall of Adam to sin and sin passed to all human except Jesus because He is not of Adam seed.

We have now son of Adam and son of God. Kaya nga amg sabi ni Jesus "except a man be born again he cannot see/enter the Kingsom of God" because Jesus knows that not all are children of God.

I'm not talking about the original sin, but how God sees us equally.

dpogs · « **Reply #2144 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 10:57 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2016 at 10:45 AM

I'm not talking about the original sin, but how God sees us equally.

That original sin was passed unto all men. All human being becomes sinner except Jesus. God see human as sinners. We are all equal in terms of our status before God as a human - being sinners.

All human are sinner but not all human are children of God.

bumblebee · « **Reply #2145 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 11:03 AM »

Now that's just sad

dpogs · « **Reply #2146 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 11:11 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:03 AM

Now that's just sad

That is not the sad part.

God devise a perfect plan for salvation but most of us human rejected God's plan of salvation. That is the very sad part. Human rejected God's salvation, instead we choose our own understanding, we choose our own religion, we rely on ourselves rather than God.

bumblebee · « **Reply #2147 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 11:14 AM »

Quote from: dpogs on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:11 AM

That is not the sad part.

God devise a perfect plan for salvation but most of us human rejected God's plan of salvation. That is the very sad part. Human rejected God's salvation, instead we choose our own understanding, we choose our own religion, we rely on ourselves rather than God.

The sad part is that us being sinners is the only thing that makes us equal in God's eyes (according to your beliefs).

dpogs · « **Reply #2148 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 11:29 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:14 AM

The sad part is that us being sinners is the only thing that makes us equal in God's eyes (according to your beliefs).

It is in the Bible, the Bible said all human are sinners. The Bible also said that only few are God's children.

As i said, as "human being" we are all equal before God's eye because all human are sinners.

Also, i never mentiomed the phrase "the only thing", ikaw lang ang nag assume niyan.

bumblebee · « **Reply #2149 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 11:37 AM »

So since it is in the Bible, and the Bible said all human are sinners and the Bible also said that only few are God's children, THEREFORE we are equal in God's because we are sinners??? See where I'm going here?

dpogs · « **Reply #2150 on:** Apr 08, 2016 at 11:45 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Apr 08, 2016 at 11:37 AM

So since it is in the Bible, and the Bible said all human are sinners and the Bible also said that only few are God's children, THEREFORE we are equal in God's because we are sinners??? See where I'm going here?

As human being we are equal to God because all human are sinners.

If you are talking about the love of God, then we are equal because God loves all sinner.

But you mentioned that we are equal because we are all His children. Never in the Bible mentioned that all are God's children.

Ikaw, sa tingin mo be we are all equal before God's eye because all human are His children?