Oooops! did I say EL 34? sorry guys I thnk what I have pala are EL84s. Dyahe! on the other hand, I still stand to what I said and that is start simple and go big if wallet allows. By the way, Andrew, is the project for tube 5.1 on the way na ba? You mentioned that you will start with stereo amps and an upgradable scheme to make them into a full blown 5.1 theater system. Now wouldn't that be neat for all of us. Can you imagine also a tube powered sub-woofer? Yung bang tipong tunog ng doublebass ay naramdaman mo!