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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #30 on: Jul 07, 2013 at 11:12 AM »
Three words:

Double Blind Test
dont forget the spl meter :)
dapat same db kasi malaki possibility na lumakas or
humina ang signal since nagpalit ka ng kebol :)
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #31 on: Jul 07, 2013 at 01:52 PM »
There are those who dispense this things as if they don't matter... maybe it does or it does not. Try and see/hear for yourself, sometimes it's a little crazy listening to these people. ;D

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #32 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 09:30 PM »
in my experience.. i won 1st place twice in car audio sound quality, i use wireworld silver eclipse ic and tellurium black speaker cable from my neighbor ferdie ludo, almost all of the competitor used qed cables... and copied my set up like denon r1 cd player , vifa and scanspeak with custon xover  etc...   except for the wires i used... they couldnt just get the quality sound i have.. maybe, just because of the wires i use.. judges came from singapore, hk, manila,

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #33 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 09:47 PM »
in my experience.. i won 1st place twice in car audio sound quality, i use wireworld silver eclipse ic and tellurium black speaker cable from my neighbor ferdie ludo, almost all of the competitor used qed cables... and copied my set up like denon r1 cd player , vifa and scanspeak with custon xover  etc...   except for the wires i used... they couldnt just get the quality sound i have.. maybe, just because of the wires i use.. judges came from singapore, hk, manila,
bro,bigats pala hobby mo.....hehehehe...hope to hear your review once you tapped the cables to your car....

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #34 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 10:56 PM »
For me its a yes! (sounds familiar ba ;D). B4 nun mga mid 2000 un Rotel pre-pro rc1070 and rb1080 stereo set-up im using monster cable thx ultra pati sa Rotel pre-pro rsp1066 and rmb1075 w/ monster cable thx ultra din. Me nag-offer dito sa pinoydvd (Sir Ford) home demo ng mga AudioQuest cables, 1st time ive encounter RCA w/ battery pack (buti not sold separately hehe!) try ko muna is un cheapest 72v DBS ic is columbia (12k or 15k ata) parang naiba sound signature ni rotel na familiar ko, nawala bloatness ng bass (bass is tame ata ang term), hinde na crowded (parang nasala or filtered mga frequency), na-try ko pati sa sony mini compo (FH-215R) umabot ko full volume ng hinde na-distort ang sounds. The next day pina-check ko sa expert sa electronics coz mystery ang battery pack baka me mga resistor,capacitors o pyesa na nag-influence sa sound but found nothing talagang battery lang. Hinde ko napansin pati Colorado 72v DBS binili ko na din nakaka-adik or nakaka-spoiled sa tenga ang DBS no turning back. Pag binalik ko sa monster cable or un nabibili sa ace hardware na rca prang nasa tunog DTS HD bumalik ka sa Dolby ordinary. IMO. Sa experience ko lang po ito. Madami din siguro mag-agree sa naka-try ng me battery pack na IC, speaker wire, power chord,  ^-^

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #35 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 11:26 PM »
For me there is a difference. But it doesn't necessarily mean its an improvement. I can name some expensive ICs and speaker cables where I found the generic ones to sound better.

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #36 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 11:32 PM »
For me there is a difference. But it doesn't necessarily mean its an improvement. I can name some expensive ICs and speaker cables where I found the generic ones to sound better.

Correct. hindi porke mahal eh bagay sa system mo. Parang damit.

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #37 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 11:34 PM »
For me there is a difference. But it doesn't necessarily mean its an improvement. I can name some expensive ICs and speaker cables where I found the generic ones to sound better.

Blind test na yan bulagin kita.. hhaha
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #38 on: Jul 12, 2013 at 11:55 PM »
Blind test na yan bulagin kita.. hhaha
A Real Man has branded cables  O0
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #39 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 01:31 AM »
Correct. hindi porke mahal eh bagay sa system mo. Parang damit.

+1 master....minsan ung mumurs na kable mgmatch swak sa panlasa. kaya ako, kahit mumurahin, tinatago ko sa cabinet (imbes na damit nakasampay, mga kable  :D :D :D :D) , baka sakali may maglimos ng gamit, pwede kong ihanap ng partner...
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #40 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 06:15 AM »
A Real Man looks at cables and finds nothing but copper and plastics.... >:D ;D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #41 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 06:54 AM »
A Real Man looks at cables and finds nothing but copper and plastics.... >:D ;D

Like ko to Master tony. hehe

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #42 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 09:30 AM »
Next time dala ako ng cable if i have the chance na mag-ikot sa mga ka grupo natin dito.   :)
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #43 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 02:58 PM »
Like ko to Master tony. hehe

A Real Man knows what  copper and plastics look like.... >:D ;)
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #44 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 07:58 PM »
A Real Man knows what  copper and plastics look like.... >:D ;)
;D ;D ;D minsan rubberize plastic din ang balot ;) and teflon din pala ;D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #45 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:15 PM »
A Real Man has branded cables  O0

So di ako real man kasi ala ako branded cable.  ??? ???
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #46 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:21 PM »
Di ba REAL SIS ka?  >:D >:D >:D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #47 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:25 PM »
Di ba REAL SIS ka?  >:D >:D >:D

Ay ou nga pala SIS ako kaya di talaga Real Man..  ;D ;D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #48 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:25 PM »
Yup, and depends also sa matching ng system..some mura some mahal...it is necessary to test cables first before buying...allot of stores who sells cables lend their service unit...At least for ten days...

In my experience usually the ones that are super high end can make allot of difference...Kung baga no brainer audition... ;)
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #49 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:30 PM »
So di ako real man kasi ala ako branded cable.  ??? ???

meron yan bro, di pwedeng wala... ;) >:D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #50 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:32 PM »
Ay ou nga pala SIS ako kaya di talaga Real Man..  ;D ;D

pati ba naman dito sis na rin ang tawagan? kala ko sa elab lang yan.... :D :D :D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #51 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:39 PM »
pati ba naman dito sis na rin ang tawagan? kala ko sa elab lang yan.... :D :D :D

Hahah ganun talag kami mga sister tawagan.  >:D >:D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #52 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 08:52 PM »
I have been brushing up on my audio literature and it brought me to the topic about cables.

Kindly correct me if I'm wrong in what i read or my misunderstanding is flawed

For speaker cables, there are 2 types

1. Shielded
2. Unshielded

A lot of people want the unshielded.

Now for RCA, people do recommend shielded.

Frankly im confused. Also, do branded cables make a difference? A fine example would be Monster and Stinger RCA cables.

Based on my experience Yes, but everything affects system matching. Better hear it in your system and decide. We all have different experiences when it comes to cables. Listen......listen....listen
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #53 on: Jul 13, 2013 at 09:20 PM »
Its not the brand that matters per se. What really makes the difference is the quality of the cables themselves regardless of price. Dinky cables will most likely interfere with the performance of the audio/video gear. It also helps that good quality cables tend to last longer. I've had P25 low quality AV cables with insulation that got brittle, cracked and peeled off after a few years which might have caused a short had I not discovered and replaced them.

Case in point, I bought a cheap stereo RCA cable for my sub before which caused loud humming and popping noises. I replaced that with a better quality but still reasonably priced cable and the popping and humming easily went away. Another case was when I used a USB cable I bought from "da-king" which not only made the sound of my USB-powered DAC sound harsh, its effect was reflected in the loop-back measurements I did while calibrating my DAC for RTA which resulted into a slight "sawtooth" frequency response curve. Turns out the power wires inside the cable were not soldered well. Replaced that with a better USB cable and the FR curve smoothed out. That said, I was glad I did not have replace my sub and DAC finding out the cables were the culprits in causing unsatisfactory performance all along.

The way I see it, no, good cables will not make your AV system look or sound better. Rather, what they're supposed to do is to avoid possible deterioration of the video/audio quality and allow the components to perform as they should: within factory spec. Good quality cables need not be expensive exotics (where diminishing returns and psycho-acoustics usually apply) but reasonably affordable IMO.

One more thing, in my experience, the quality of interconnect cables seem to matter more than speaker wire. I've been using low-cost generic speaker wire wherein the unstripped copper wire actually oxidized green inside the insulation ever since I got started in this hobby and I haven't had any reason to replace them since they have not interfered in anyway with the sound quality of my speakers.
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #54 on: Jul 14, 2013 at 06:49 AM »
for signal interconnects i use "SWAN" brand coax cable available from deeco, i buy rca plugs from www.goodcomponents.com...
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #55 on: Aug 10, 2013 at 01:01 PM »
question lang.

why are boutique cables requires a break-in period in order to hear its full capability? di ba you paid a premium and the manufacturer should take care of doing that and not let the consumer do their unfinished job. para kasing bumili ka ng alak at sasabihin ng seller na inumin mo yan after 5 years para matikman ang totoong lasa :)

ano din ang mangyari sa break in, na exercise ba ang metal particles ng wire? or nasasanayan lang ang tenga ng listener?


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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #56 on: Aug 10, 2013 at 02:08 PM »
Mahirap kasi i-accelerate ang corrosion.

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #57 on: Aug 10, 2013 at 03:11 PM »
question lang.

why are boutique cables requires a break-in period in order to hear its full capability? di ba you paid a premium and the manufacturer should take care of doing that and not let the consumer do their unfinished job. para kasing bumili ka ng alak at sasabihin ng seller na inumin mo yan after 5 years para matikman ang totoong lasa :)

ano din ang mangyari sa break in, na exercise ba ang metal particles ng wire? or nasasanayan lang ang tenga ng listener?



para hindi mo isauli sa tindahan na binilhan mo kung sakaling hindi mo magustuhan.....pagtagal tagal, masasanay na rin ang tenga mo...ayun break in na ang cable mo..... ;) >:D
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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #58 on: Aug 10, 2013 at 03:29 PM »
...or that he he he.

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Re: Do branded cables really make a difference?
« Reply #59 on: Aug 10, 2013 at 03:37 PM »
para hindi mo isauli sa tindahan na binilhan mo kung sakaling hindi mo magustuhan.....pagtagal tagal, masasanay na rin ang tenga mo...ayun break in na ang cable mo..... ;) >:D


or na break-in na tenga mo doon sa tunog ng cable :) :) :) :)  >:D