Author Topic: Question on the Holy Trinity (Read 55249 times)

pTrader · « **Reply #300 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 10:50 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 10:33 AM

Naniniwala saan? Wala ka pa namang proof.

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29Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed

I believe the unseen.

Read Genesis upto Revelation that is my proof, the book called the Holy Bible.

bumblebee · « **Reply #301 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 10:59 AM »

Huwag mo na kasing ipilit kung wala.

dpogs · « **Reply #302 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:09 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 08:29 AM

Repent, not because you want to be saved, but because it's the right thing to do.

Ok. Where did you get the idea that you need to repent not to be saved but because it is the right thing to do?

pTrader · « **Reply #303 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:11 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 10:59 AM

Huwag mo na kasing ipilit kung wala.

Bible nga yung written proof ko.

bumblebee · « **Reply #304 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:13 AM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:09 AM

Ok. Where did you get the idea that you need to repent not to be saved but because it is the right thing to do?

I didn't get it from anywhere nor anyone.

bumblebee · « **Reply #305 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:15 AM »

Quote from: pTrader on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:11 AM

Bible nga yung written proof ko.

Hindi nga acceptable yang proof mo. Kung ipipilit mo, lalabas na totoo rin sina Superman, Batman, Zeus, Thor at kung sinu-sino pa.

jerix · « **Reply #306 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:15 AM »

Quote from: pTrader on Oct 07, 2015 at 10:03 AM

why make the plural more plural?

Bro- I think you did not get the question right.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #307 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:19 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:15 AM

Hindi nga acceptable yang proof mo. Kung ipipilit mo, lalabas na totoo rin sina Superman, Batman, Zeus, Thor at kung sinu-sino pa.

Saan sa Bible yun sina Superman, Batman, Zeus, Thor at kung sinu-sino pa? Kasi by your logic, if talagang proof ang Bible....then totoo sina Superman. Meaning sina Superman, Batman, Zeus, Thor at kung sinu-sino pa..... were mentioned in the Bible. So saan nakasaad sa Bible nga?

dpogs · « **Reply #308 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:24 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:13 AM

I didn't get it from anywhere nor anyone.

So sayo mismo nanggaling ang paniniwala na yan? Imbento mo?

bumblebee · « **Reply #309 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:30 AM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:24 AM

So sayo mismo nanggaling ang paniniwala na yan? Imbento mo?

Hindi imbento. Common sense lang.

dpogs · « **Reply #310 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:30 AM »

Quote from: jerix on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:15 AM

Bro- I think you did not get the question right.

Mary dreamed the angel said to her that she will concieved God the Son.

God the Father, God the Holy Spirit and God the Son. 3 pa rin sir.

dpogs · « **Reply #311 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:32 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:30 AM

Hindi imbento. Common sense lang.

You believe in your common sense more than the Bible?

Ano naman sinasabi ng iyong common sense about trinity?
Ano naman sinasabi ng iyong common sense para ikaw ay maligtas sa kaparusahan?

bumblebee · « **Reply #312 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:36 AM »

Ang kulit

Hindi ko nga iniisip yung kaligtasan na ipinagpipilitan mo.

dpogs · « **Reply #313 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 11:47 AM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:36 AM

Ang kulit Hindi ko nga iniisip yung kaligtasan na ipinagpipilitan mo.

Ah ok. Naguluhan lang ako kasi all the time pala eh youre just using your common sense to believe im God kasi king tutuusin our common sense says there is no God.

No more question. I hope and pray that the Word of God reaches your heart.

pTrader · « **Reply #314 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 12:01 PM »

Quote from: jerix on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:15 AM

Bro- I think you did not get the question right.

sir yung word na God in plural form na kaya inde kailangan suffixing the s (as in Gods) .

(inedit ko, para malinaw)

jerix · « **Reply #315 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 12:18 PM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:30 AM

Mary dreamed the angel said to her that she will concieved God the Son.

God the Father, God the Holy Spirit and God the Son. 3 pa rin sir.

I agree bro -- but the moment she conceived Jesus, what happened to that God the son whom that God the creator was talking to even before such an event? Was that God the son also flesh just like the one conceived by Mary?

pTrader · « **Reply #316 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 12:54 PM »

Quote from: jerix on Oct 07, 2015 at 12:18 PM

I agree bro -- but the moment she conceived Jesus, what happened to that God the son whom that God the creator was talking to even before such an event? Was that God the son also flesh just like the one conceived by Mary?

eto isa sa mga nasulat about Him:

16Beyond all question, the mystery from which true godliness springs is great:

He appeared in the flesh,
was vindicated by the Spirit,
was seen by angels,
was preached among the nations,
was believed on in the world,
was taken up in glory.

bumblebee · « **Reply #317 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:08 PM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 07, 2015 at 11:47 AM

Ah ok. Naguluhan lang ako kasi all the time pala eh youre just using your common sense to believe im God kasi king tutuusin our common sense says there is no God.

No more question. I hope and pray that the Word of God reaches your heart.

Naguluhan ka nga. And no, if I used my common sense, I wouldn't believe in God.

dpogs · « **Reply #318 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:17 PM »

Quote from: jerix on Oct 07, 2015 at 12:18 PM

I agree bro -- but the moment she conceived Jesus, what happened to that God the son whom that God the creator was talking to even before such an event? Was that God the son also flesh just like the one conceived by Mary?

We believe that the "The Word" in the Bible is Jesus Christ.

John 1:1-14

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

In verse 1, the Bible tells us that the Word (Jesus Christ) is God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Here in verse 2, it tells us that Jesus is the Creator

4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

In verse 14, it tells us that Jesus the God the Creator become flesh.

dpogs · « **Reply #319 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:21 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:08 PM

Naguluhan ka nga. And no, if I used my common sense, I wouldn't believe in God.

yeah i can sense that you dont believe in God.

bumblebee · « **Reply #320 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:22 PM »

Quote from: dpogs on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:21 PM

yeah i can sense that you dont believe in God.

Oh, I do.

dpogs · « **Reply #321 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:25 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:22 PM

Oh, I do.

ah you believe in God because it is common sense... the same as you repent because it is common sense to repent.

bumblebee · « **Reply #322 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:27 PM »

No. I repent because common sense tells me it's the right thing to do. Yung belief in God ang hindi ko ginamitan ng common sense.

dpogs · « **Reply #323 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:32 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:27 PM

No. I repent because common sense tells me it's the right thing to do. Yung belief in God ang hindi ko ginamitan ng common sense.

ah in deciding what is right thing to do you rely on your common sense not in God... got it... loud and clear.

DVD_Freak · « **Reply #324 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:36 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:27 PM

No. I repent because common sense tells me it's the right thing to do. Yung belief in God ang hindi ko ginamitan ng common sense.

Repent means there's remorse or regret for wrongdoing. There's suggestion of guilt. So you repent because common sense tells you it's the right thing to do and not guilt? Pano if you think you didn't do anything wrong? You still repent? Doing the right thing doesn't really involve repenting.

Magulo nga.

pTrader · « **Reply #325 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:47 PM »

^ he has his own definition

bumblebee · « **Reply #326 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 01:59 PM »

Quote from: pTrader on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:47 PM

^ he has his own definition

Ng repent? No need, pretty straightforward.

pTrader · « **Reply #327 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 02:32 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:59 PM

Ng repent? No need, pretty straightforward.

common sense based not sin based..

bumblebee · « **Reply #328 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 02:36 PM »

pTrader · « **Reply #329 on:** Oct 07, 2015 at 02:51 PM »

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 02:36 PM

Ha?

Quote from: bumblebee on Oct 07, 2015 at 01:27 PM

No. I repent because common sense tells me it's the right thing to do. Yung belief in God ang hindi ko ginamitan ng common sense.