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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #180 on: Sep 21, 2009 at 09:13 PM »
Will this mod be better for the centers also?

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #181 on: Sep 22, 2009 at 07:03 PM »
Will this mod be better for the centers also?
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Re: Diamond 9.5 Speaker Modification
« Reply #182 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 02:15 PM »
here's some updates on my wharfe diamonds mods/tweaks:



Added the 6.8uf red MKP capacitor. i had to pull out some of the wires first so i can
work on the board outside the box. i'll admit it's not too pretty a job given how the
pcb holes' distance aren't enough to really mount the capacitors flush on the board.
it's even a bit overcrowded on the 6.8uf side.

as promised, i have taken a picture at the backside of the crossover board. do note
that the orientation is taken as if you're looking at it from the top but as if you can
peer through to see the pcb layout below. you can get a comparison with the pic
above where most of the wiring is on the left side as how it is oriented too on the pic
below. i can do the schematic diagram also but that could be for another day if some-
one wouldn't have done so yet given the two pictures from where to base that easily.


« Last Edit: Sep 23, 2009 at 02:23 PM by gearhead000 »
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #183 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 03:08 PM »
i've already done the center crossover too (the diamond 9.cs). here's the original board:



again, same orientation from the setup pictures of the diamond 9.5 previously.



i have a multimeter with capacitance tester. i have measured the electrolytic caps
i disconnected from the board and i found them to be off rating by quite a large
margin. 4.7uf's are about 5.5uf in actual measurement. for 6.8uf it's about 8.4uf,
and for the 8.2uf it's about 9.8uf. not sure if the design values for the inductors
and resistors were based on the actual vs. measured values though. it's good i
got some "cheap" replacement 250V MKP's so they're not as large as the 400V's.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #184 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 03:18 PM »
gearhead,

do mean that dapat tinaasan mo dapat and values ng caps na pinalit mo?

how did it sound?

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #185 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 03:29 PM »
that's why i mentioned i am not sure if the design used actual or measured values. but i think they would not really take much time measuring each and every component so to be safe, i used the indicated values as reference. i measured each and every one of the MKP caps i bought and the 4.7uf and 6.8 caps are within 0.01 to 0.10 of their indicated values... given also that the audiophiler's are 3% tolerance caps. the other caps i bought are 5% tolerance. for the 8.2 uf, i just paralleled a 4.7uf and 3.5uf (measured values) MKP's.

results are that these have opened up the high registers enough to be noticeable but not too much as to be grating.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #186 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 03:38 PM »
hope to hear those modified 9.5 9cs!  :)

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #187 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 04:57 PM »
you're welcome. only problem with that is we don't have non-modded 9.cs/9.5's to compare.
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Re: Diamond 9.5 Speaker Modification
« Reply #188 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 06:20 PM »

the round black object seems to be a small inductor, apparently it's connected to the HF+ and HF- (tweeter) to provide a second order high pass filtering.

if want more sizzle from the tweeters you can try replacing the 6.8 uF capacitor with a smaller value, say 4.7 or 3.3 uF, and bypass the 1.5 ohm resistor. have done a similar tweak before with my old onkyo bookshelves and the highs really opened up.

caution: there is a danger of overloading the tweeter if you simply bypass the resistor without replacing the capacitor with a lower value.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #189 on: Sep 23, 2009 at 08:57 PM »
thanks, mark.

i missed putting a label on that from the other pic above. yes, it seems like a 2nd-pass filter to give it a 12db slope. well, to paraphrase what we always say... "tweak according to taste".  :D as i've said, the original 6.8uf electrolytics measured almost 8.4uf, and have replaced them with 3% tolerance 6.8uf MKP's. maybe not totally bypass the resistor but change it to 1.0 ohm to leave some tweeter protection. i think the less DF losses of the MKP's made up for the change to a lower capacitance.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #190 on: Dec 12, 2010 at 10:13 PM »
guys.. suggestion i'm thinking of converting my 9.1 into floorstanders.. maybe larger volume of enclosure may inprove bass response.. 

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #191 on: Feb 02, 2011 at 05:31 PM »
Guys, has anybody here added a supertweeter on their stock speakers. I read wonderful reviews from diy people on the benefits of adding supertweeters on dull or neutral sounding speakers. Words like airy, detailed, wider soundstage and presence comes to view with the addition.

I actually experimented with my neutral sounding vintage polk audio ra-8tl fs speakers by adding a cheap but nice sounding small horn tweeters (mylar not piezo type) with included mini stand made by dai chi, (mdl. HT D-8). The result for me is unbelivable for such an inexpensive mod. The adjective stated above where all realize by me and I now I began to love this speakers again. tnx  :)

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #192 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 09:42 AM »
congrats sa tweaks/mods!!!

ok ang red/audiophiler caps sa eleshop.

meron din kay mang gerry - aerovox oilcap 2uf at wima polypropylene 4.7uf.
for me mas maganda na, mas mura pa ;D


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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #193 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 10:03 AM »
Sir ojofool, Good Morning... Pwede ko pa ba malaman kung san si Mang Gerry??? Salamat po...

+1
Ako din po Sir gusto ko malaman :)
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #194 on: Feb 14, 2011 at 10:15 AM »
Sir ojofool, Good Morning... Pwede ko pa ba malaman kung san si Mang Gerry??? Salamat po...


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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #195 on: Feb 15, 2011 at 10:04 AM »
Salamat Sir ojofool, Pwede po ba exact address at name ng store nya??? kasi po busy lagi phone at one time lang nagreply sa text then wala na... Dito po ako mangagaling sa Pasig City, Thanks po...
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #196 on: Feb 15, 2011 at 10:10 AM »
Salamat Sir ojofool, Pwede po ba exact address at name ng store nya??? kasi po busy lagi phone at one time lang nagreply sa text then wala na... Dito po ako mangagaling sa Pasig City, Thanks po...

bahay nya yun, hindi store, sorry di ko pwede ipamigay address.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #197 on: Feb 15, 2011 at 12:57 PM »
Salamat Sir ojofool, Pwede po ba exact address at name ng store nya??? kasi po busy lagi phone at one time lang nagreply sa text then wala na... Dito po ako mangagaling sa Pasig City, Thanks po...


tawagan mo muna sa phone para magmeet kayo......okey na naman yung phone nya.....saan ka sa pasig? sa pasig din ako, sa palatiw kaliwa.......ano ang requirements mo? baka matulungan kita.... ;D
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #198 on: Feb 16, 2011 at 01:17 AM »
Magkapit bahay lang po tayo, dito po ako Barangay Maybunga stella mariz po.... Hanap po me better caps using to modify my speaker po (Audiopyler) and some wima caps for LM8xxx series diy amps...
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #199 on: Feb 16, 2011 at 11:03 AM »

0921-7430558
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near southsuperhiway, just after quirino avenue.

Thanks Sir Rene,
Handa ding tumulong si tito Tony - salamat in advance din po :)
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #200 on: Mar 13, 2011 at 02:30 PM »
Sunday boredom struck me so i've mod my wharf 9.1

-replaced stock electrolytic tweeter caps with polypropylene
-varnished the vinyl  :) look a lot better imho





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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #201 on: Mar 14, 2011 at 07:49 AM »
Sir gearhead,

Good day. Ask ko lang po, why we need to put the non polar capacitor to 110VAC first (for 24Hrs) before connecting to tweeter??? What is the difference...

I brought 4pcs. 2.2uf/400V Mundorf Audiophiler Kondensator and try to modified /tweak my Kevler speaker and with the help of Sir Mel.

 
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #202 on: Apr 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM »
plan ko na din po i-tweak ang Wharfedales ko...
ano po ba talaga magandang gamitin for budget conscious:
Aerovox OIL Capacitors
Wima polypropylene(frm Mang Gerry) or
Red Audiophiler (Raon)?

may idea po ba kayo magkano ang
Mundorf caps? baka kaunti lang ang difference
ng price pero malaki naman ang impact sa sound
e di sa Mundorf M-Cap na lang ;D

Thanks!
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #203 on: Apr 12, 2011 at 04:14 PM »
plan ko na din po i-tweak ang Wharfedales ko...
ano po ba talaga magandang gamitin for budget conscious:
Aerovox OIL Capacitors
Wima polypropylene(frm Mang Gerry) or
Red Audiophiler (Raon)?

may idea po ba kayo magkano ang
Mundorf caps? baka kaunti lang ang difference
ng price pero malaki naman ang impact sa sound
e di sa Mundorf M-Cap na lang ;D

Thanks!


The difference soundwise between the Mundorf M-Cap and Mundorf Supreme is a lot. If you have the budget, go for the Supreme. The silver in oil is even better than the supreme but it is twice the price.
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #204 on: Apr 12, 2011 at 05:26 PM »
The difference soundwise between the Mundorf M-Cap and Mundorf Supreme is a lot. If you have the budget, go for the Supreme. The silver in oil is even better than the supreme but it is twice the price.

Inquired about Mundurf M-Caps (AudioAmplified in Libis QC)
latest prices are:

4.7uF M-Cap Supreme  --------- P1,754.00
6.8uF M-Cap Supreme  --------- P2,072.00
4.7uF M-Cap Supreme Silver/Oil - P4,467.00 * :o
6.8uF M-Cap Supreme Silver/Oil - P5,540.00 * :o

Didn't bother asking about M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold/Oil  ;D

also found this website that did some testing with different Capacitors
http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Cap.html

*The M-CAP Supreme Silver/Oil is one of my favourite capacitors! I can only underline what Mundorf states:  “…wonderfully spacious and detailed sound reproduction … full and smooth tonal richness and diversity. This capacitor’s ability to bring out the finest nuances and the subtlest distinctions make the music sound more alive and “juicy”, …Wonderfully spacious music reproduction… ”. Music detail and depth throughout from top to bottom. Very smooth and liquid. To exaggerate things: it makes a standard Supreme Cap sound slightly rough!

When I have the time and budget to replace those electrolytic caps in my Wharfs I hope to hear those dramatic changes mentioned in humblehomemadehifi site... ;)
but first I would like to try Mang Gerry's Aerovox Oil Capacitors for only P100.00  ;D
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #205 on: Apr 15, 2011 at 05:18 PM »
Inquired about Mundurf M-Caps (AudioAmplified in Libis QC)
latest prices are:

4.7uF M-Cap Supreme  --------- P1,754.00
6.8uF M-Cap Supreme  --------- P2,072.00
4.7uF M-Cap Supreme Silver/Oil - P4,467.00 * :o
6.8uF M-Cap Supreme Silver/Oil - P5,540.00 * :o

Didn't bother asking about M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold/Oil  ;D

also found this website that did some testing with different Capacitors
http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Cap.html[/url

*The M-CAP Supreme Silver/Oil is one of my favourite capacitors! I can only underline what Mundorf states:  “…wonderfully spacious and detailed sound reproduction … full and smooth tonal richness and diversity. This capacitor’s ability to bring out the finest nuances and the subtlest distinctions make the music sound more alive and “juicy”, …Wonderfully spacious music reproduction… ”. Music detail and depth throughout from top to bottom. Very smooth and liquid. To exaggerate things: it makes a standard Supreme Cap sound slightly rough!

When I have the time and budget to replace those electrolytic caps in my Wharfs I hope to hear those dramatic changes mentioned in humblehomemadehifi site... ;)
but first I would like to try Mang Gerry's Aerovox Oil Capacitors for only P100.00  ;D

Just my advice. There is no point of spending too much on a not so expensive speaker as there will be limitation due to the cheap tweeters they are using. The supremes will be more than enough. It is better to get a better speaker than spending more on a capacitor. On my case i always buy used speakers. This gives me a better option of the money i spend and therefore more practical to buy better and more expensive caps for my upgrades.

I currently got a reference 3a mm gen ii for around php12k. Even using silver in gold in this case is still worth it.

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #206 on: Apr 15, 2011 at 07:04 PM »
+1
Inquired about Mundurf M-Caps (AudioAmplified in Libis QC)
latest prices are:

4.7uF M-Cap Supreme  --------- P1,754.00
6.8uF M-Cap Supreme  --------- P2,072.00
4.7uF M-Cap Supreme Silver/Oil - P4,467.00 * :o
6.8uF M-Cap Supreme Silver/Oil - P5,540.00 * :o

Didn't bother asking about M-Cap Supreme Silver/Gold/Oil  ;D

also found this website that did some testing with different Capacitors
http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Cap.html

*The M-CAP Supreme Silver/Oil is one of my favourite capacitors! I can only underline what Mundorf states:  “…wonderfully spacious and detailed sound reproduction … full and smooth tonal richness and diversity. This capacitor’s ability to bring out the finest nuances and the subtlest distinctions make the music sound more alive and “juicy”, …Wonderfully spacious music reproduction… ”. Music detail and depth throughout from top to bottom. Very smooth and liquid. To exaggerate things: it makes a standard Supreme Cap sound slightly rough!

When I have the time and budget to replace those electrolytic caps in my Wharfs I hope to hear those dramatic changes mentioned in humblehomemadehifi site... ;)
but first I would like to try Mang Gerry's Aerovox Oil Capacitors for only P100.00  ;D

don't spend too much for capacitors.......not worth it....take a lot of salt with the comments at "those dramatic changes mentioned in humblehomemadehifi site".......i am not a believer in caps.....


Teflon caps like " Vcaps" are much better in properties than polypropylenes like those, if you really want the best, those teflons are the best.....only it costs more than your speakers..... :D :D :D

only because electrolytics can "dry up", i will change them to films like teflons and polypropylenes or even mylars.....
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #207 on: Apr 17, 2011 at 05:59 PM »
It seems to me a lot here are bored with their speakers - thus enjoying the fun of the "tweaks" - I did same before and it is really fun.

From wharf 9.6, and here, the ideal target are the tweeters - so lots of peddled hyped caps flew in the air - and so thus with money, time, efforts, and failed expectations.

I oftentimes wonder why so many hobbyist frowns on tone controls and/or equalizers - which are readily available to correct response anomaly in a speaker (if they know the anomaly, though my guts tell me its this "unknown" in our usual stuff) - or to cusomize one taste of sound as in ones coffee.

These are merry-go-round of no substantial (and sometimes surprising) results - unknowingly altering frequency cross-overs that may definitely result to some sonic change - but if for the better is all but a guess or subjective assessment of the diyer.

Speakers are never flat - before we have the curves of speakers in the specs, now its a goner - simply because taste for speakers will largely depend on the subjectivity of the owner.

Simple addition of high sensitivity tweeters could have done the trick, and attenuate to balance to ones taste. Equalizers in conjunction with analyzers are often employed by those who understood their issues - but maybe used to tailorfit our ears.

But then - go for the fun. This is not the type that the end justifies the means. If you meant otherwise, do the simpler things. Simple problem deserves simple tweaks!

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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #208 on: Apr 17, 2011 at 09:49 PM »
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Re: Speaker Modification / Upgrade
« Reply #209 on: Apr 18, 2011 at 05:19 AM »
It seems to me a lot here are bored with their speakers - thus enjoying the fun of the "tweaks" - I did same before and it is really fun.

From wharf 9.6, and here, the ideal target are the tweeters - so lots of peddled hyped caps flew in the air - and so thus with money, time, efforts, and failed expectations.

I oftentimes wonder why so many hobbyist frowns on tone controls and/or equalizers - which are readily available to correct response anomaly in a speaker (if they know the anomaly, though my guts tell me its this "unknown" in our usual stuff) - or to cusomize one taste of sound as in ones coffee.

These are merry-go-round of no substantial (and sometimes surprising) results - unknowingly altering frequency cross-overs that may definitely result to some sonic change - but if for the better is all but a guess or subjective assessment of the diyer.

Speakers are never flat - before we have the curves of speakers in the specs, now its a goner - simply because taste for speakers will largely depend on the subjectivity of the owner.

Simple addition of high sensitivity tweeters could have done the trick, and attenuate to balance to ones taste. Equalizers in conjunction with analyzers are often employed by those who understood their issues - but maybe used to tailorfit our ears.

But then - go for the fun. This is not the type that the end justifies the means. If you meant otherwise, do the simpler things. Simple problem deserves simple tweaks!

yeah ? well probably cause you spent on caps more expensive than the tweeters on your beloved WHARFEDALES.