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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #570 on: Jul 19, 2013 at 12:26 AM »
Congratulations, Sonny! Excellent set-up there...
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #571 on: Jul 19, 2013 at 12:30 AM »
I think having a preamp will provide a lot of benefits to the overall sound brader. You should consider it imo, at least I have  ^-^ i just don't want to think about it at this time... ;D
I am currently using a lightspeed passive preamp made for me by our very own Mr. JojoD...
So mas maganda tunog kung nakakabit sa lightspeed pre amp kumpara sa built in pre amp ng wyred?
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #572 on: Jul 19, 2013 at 12:38 AM »
So mas maganda tunog kung nakakabit sa lightspeed pre amp kumpara sa built in pre amp ng wyred?
So far I find fluidity when the lightspeed is connected... Preamps like any gear on a system seem to impart something to the overall sound (I think)... Like warmth, brightness, a better soundstage or could degrade it too. The hard part is finding one that matches well with one's system.
I do long for the fluid sound that comes from the accuphase e_60 series... Its just beyond my reach kasi....... So close and yet a universe away  :-[ haaaaaaay
But life is good and we must be happy with what we are blessed with  O0 O0 ^-^

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #573 on: Jul 19, 2013 at 12:45 AM »
Wow sir sonny congrats on your shl5.. Very nice and elegant stand you got there.. Next is e360 na and you're done...1 time big time na para end of the search na.. :)
Congrats again..nice asc too..
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #574 on: Jul 19, 2013 at 02:08 AM »
Wow sir sonny congrats on your shl5.. Very nice and elegant stand you got there.. Next is e360 na and you're done...1 time big time na para end of the search na.. :)
Congrats again..nice asc too..
Ferdie said I need two 13x4 tube traps.. Ooooouch...
Hahaha, kayang kaya mo yan brader.... As for the e360 or 260 ok na sa kin. Sana magkarun akong extra by the end of the year. Who needs a rack? :)

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #575 on: Aug 05, 2013 at 05:32 PM »
Cograts to the new harbeth member who recently got a P3ESR! Post pictures here...  ^-^
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #576 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 09:12 AM »

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #577 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 09:15 AM »
While you are saving for the e_60 ...... why not try placing a tubed buffer (SS ok din like Pass' Mesmerize) before and after the lightspeed ..... you may be in for a surprise ;)

So far I find fluidity when the lightspeed is connected... Preamps like any gear on a system seem to impart something to the overall sound (I think)... Like warmth, brightness, a better soundstage or could degrade it too. The hard part is finding one that matches well with one's system.
I do long for the fluid sound that comes from the accuphase e_60 series... Its just beyond my reach kasi....... So close and yet a universe away  :-[ haaaaaaay
But life is good and we must be happy with what we are blessed with  O0 O0 ^-^

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #578 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 12:10 PM »
Cograts to the new harbeth member who recently got a P3ESR! Post pictures here...  ^-^
We love pictures....

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #579 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 12:30 PM »
Magkano ba saers today ang HL5 and saan pwede mabili este pakinggan lang..
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #580 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 12:38 PM »
Magkano ba saers today ang HL5 and saan pwede mabili este pakinggan lang..
Nasa cebu ang distributor ng harbeth and showroom. Nandun din ang best sounding that I know. You can inquire sa sounds and images (cebu) and look for Ferdie Ludo. Hes a very nice guy.
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #581 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 12:42 PM »
Magkano ba saers today ang HL5 and saan pwede mabili este pakinggan lang..

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #582 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 12:48 PM »
Nasa cebu ang distributor ng harbeth and showroom. Nandun din ang best sounding that I know. You can inquire sa sounds and images (cebu) and look for Ferdie Ludo. Hes a very nice guy.
Last I checked the shl5 is going for 300k (more or less kasi nag price increase on all models)...

Oh wala pala dito. Nagulat nga ako sa website nila Cebu ang distributor.

HL5 pala uses SEAS tweeter kaya familiar yung itsura.  :D

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #583 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 01:15 PM »
Oh wala pala dito. Nagulat nga ako sa website nila Cebu ang distributor.

HL5 pala uses SEAS tweeter kaya familiar yung itsura.  :D


Most harbeth model uses seas tweeter, but not the ones sold by SEAS. They have their own design custom made by seas for harbeth only...

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #584 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 01:39 PM »
Harbeth uses SEAS drivers but used exclusively by Harbeth and not sold outside...therefore cannot be really cloned.
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #585 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 01:54 PM »
Harbeth uses SEAS drivers but used exclusively by Harbeth and not sold outside...therefore cannot be really cloned.
How about their drivers Jen? Yung radial... Who makes them and where can one get them?

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Re: Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #586 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 02:06 PM »
Most harbeth model uses seas tweeter, but not the ones sold by SEAS. They have their own design custom made by seas for harbeth only...


Harbeth uses SEAS drivers but used exclusively by Harbeth and not sold outside...therefore cannot be really cloned.

Yes. SEAS actually started as a contractor for manufacturing ng drivers. Year 2000 lang ata sila gumawa ng sarili nilang product.

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« Reply #587 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 02:26 PM »
How about their drivers Jen? Yung radial... Who makes them and where can one get them?

If you read the site, Radial woofer drivers are made from a mix of materials proprietary to Harbeth, as the designer of Harbeth wanted a materil better than the off the shelf polyprop/kevlar/paper. So technically you can't produce a Harbeth clone since sa driver material palang unobtanium na.

Some of them daw are no longer produced. So pag naubos na batch nila ng raw materials, no more Radial drivers. Kaya there is no possibility of Radial drivers being cloned as these are made by Harbeth themselves. 

Unlike other speakers (the ProAc clones come to mind) which source raw drivers outside which can be approximated by similar products by the same manufacturer.

Seas produces the metal dome tweeters for Harbeth pero per their specifications.

No substitute for the real thing . . . :-) 

Just finished paying for my Compact 7s last year . . . Matagal pa bago palitan.  Kaya idol ko yung mga naka SHL5 dito . . .
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #588 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 03:06 PM »
How about their drivers Jen? Yung radial... Who makes them and where can one get them?

Harbeth proprietary too, Sonny
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #589 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 03:10 PM »
If you read the site, Radial woofer drivers are made from a mix of materials proprietary to Harbeth, as the designer of Harbeth wanted a materil better than the off the shelf polyprop/kevlar/paper. So technically you can't produce a Harbeth clone since sa driver material palang unobtanium na.

Some of them daw are no longer produced. So pag naubos na batch nila ng raw materials, no more Radial drivers. Kaya there is no possibility of Radial drivers being cloned as these are made by Harbeth themselves. 

Unlike other speakers (the ProAc clones come to mind) which source raw drivers outside which can be approximated by similar products by the same manufacturer.

Seas produces the metal dome tweeters for Harbeth pero per their specifications.

No substitute for the real thing . . . :-) 

Just finished paying for my Compact 7s last year . . . Matagal pa bago palitan.  Kaya idol ko yung mga naka SHL5 dito . . .

Idol mo si Sonny and Freddie! :D

Yeah, can't really be cloned...ika nga sa commercial: "You can't beat the real thing!"
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #590 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 03:20 PM »
Idol mo si Sonny and Freddie! :D

Yeah, can't really be cloned...ika nga sa commercial: "You can't beat the real thing!"

Idol din si Jen and Luther na naka SHL5.. haha
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #591 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 04:48 PM »
If you read the site, Radial woofer drivers are made from a mix of materials proprietary to Harbeth, as the designer of Harbeth wanted a materil better than the off the shelf polyprop/kevlar/paper. So technically you can't produce a Harbeth clone since sa driver material palang unobtanium na.

Some of them daw are no longer produced. So pag naubos na batch nila ng raw materials, no more Radial drivers. Kaya there is no possibility of Radial drivers being cloned as these are made by Harbeth themselves. 

Unlike other speakers (the ProAc clones come to mind) which source raw drivers outside which can be approximated by similar products by the same manufacturer.

Seas produces the metal dome tweeters for Harbeth pero per their specifications.

No substitute for the real thing . . . :-) 

Just finished paying for my Compact 7s last year . . . Matagal pa bago palitan.  Kaya idol ko yung mga naka SHL5 dito . . .
Teka teka, ibig nyong sabihin yung gamit na drivers ng harbeth eh,,, harbeth lang ang meron? ;D
And as far as I am aware, not only are the materials a proprietary mix of their chemicals, the process itself is proprietary. The cones are thicker near the voice coil and thins out nearing the outer portion of the speakers. This is what makes harbeth speakers special...
Yung crossover madali. Magbukas ka lang ng harbeth available ang parts at kaya gayahin. But without the drivers, the crossover is useless since it was designed for the drivers.
Di ba yung enclosure ng harbeth, thin wall? Dapat ba manipis ang enclosure pag thin wall? :o  ;D ;D ;D
For those who are not aware, the thin walled speakers such as the harbeths and rogers give extra voice from their enclosure. That is one reason why wooden musical instruments sound very natural on these speakers. The somehow replicate the wooden vibrations created by the wooden instruments such as a guitar, a piano, violin and so much more....
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #592 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 05:00 PM »
Kung idol naman ang hahanapin nyo... Eh di sino ba ang master showman dito  :(
Iisalang yan.... ;D :D O0

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #593 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 05:19 PM »
The drivers can be had separately if you have damaged ones and if they still support it they can provide, even the grills. I was thinking of this route before buti nalang naayos ko drivers nung c7es ko, it is not practical kasi to change them kasi for the price might as well save up for a brand new ones  ;) Plus all of their speakers I believe are tuned by pairs so components/drivers are matched per cabinet.

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #594 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 05:51 PM »
The drivers can be had separately if you have damaged ones and if they still support it they can provide, even the grills. I was thinking of this route before buti nalang naayos ko drivers nung c7es ko, it is not practical kasi to change them kasi for the price might as well save up for a brand new ones  ;) Plus all of their speakers I believe are tuned by pairs so components/drivers are matched per cabinet.
You are correct, they can issue a replacement for you if you can provide them proof of ownership. Magkano daw yung driver brader? Again you are correct that they do provide matching for their units, hence the serial xxxxxL and xxxxxR. Also, as far as I know, before they issue a replacement driver, they will ask you to open the voice coil to check the cause of damage. So even if you have the original driver it will be difficult if not impossible to repair to the original standard.

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #595 on: Aug 06, 2013 at 11:00 PM »
Apart from Harbeths and Rogers, same implementation as well for Spendor
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #596 on: Aug 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM »
In a few days there will be a new Harbeth owner. Will it be in The Office?
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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #597 on: Aug 24, 2013 at 02:07 AM »
In a few days there will be a new Harbeth owner. Will it be in The Office?
Sa bahay daw... Dumating na ba? Tagal naman.... Hiiiiihehehehehe. Bitin na bitin na yung mama o....

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« Reply #598 on: Aug 24, 2013 at 02:26 AM »
Sa bahay daw... Dumating na ba? Tagal naman.... Hiiiiihehehehehe. Bitin na bitin na yung mama o....

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Re: Harbeth speakers
« Reply #599 on: Aug 24, 2013 at 03:13 AM »
Jen, yung dac2 mo dumating na ba? Pacompare naman sa gamit mong dac ngayon ha? Thank you....