Author Topic: PLASMA MANUAL CALIBRATION NOT ALLOWED (Read 17609 times)

thefeeder · « **Reply #30 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 07:06 PM »

Buti pa pioneer elites. built for the video calibration enthusiasts.

Alfie · « **Reply #31 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 08:44 PM »

Ha-Ha-Ha

Panasonic Philippines, kung totoo ito' Naka-kahiya.

Nag Yahoo email na.....Di' pa marunong mag-Ingles ang pinag-sulat; sana nag-tagalog na-lang...pero hindi rin naman basta-basta mag type nang tagalog eh'...kailangan din' may kaunting talino ka.

Di' Lamang ibinigay sa isang promo representative, o' na-i-check nang Boss ang sinulat...daig pa noon' mga naka-kainis sa Mall na biglang lumalapit sa iyo para sa produkto nila...magaling ang lapit, pwedeng pang paniwala-an.....hindi ka basta basta maka hindi.

Ito' ay bastos na ang dating...mas fino' pa mag promote ang mga street vendor.

Kaya lang...ika...nga' Internet naman ito'...madaling mag disclaimer....

Kaya..Ha-Ha-Ha na lang.

Pero sa totoo lang kaya lang naman mabili ang Panasonic, eh' dahil mura siya.
Parang sa Divisoria at Quiapo...kahit bastos ang tindera...bili parin.....mura eh

Ha-Ha-Ha talaga

surg · « **Reply #32 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 09:01 PM »

The BIG question is: Galing nga kaya sa Panasonc Phils yun warning

As ABC Motorparts have posted earlier: kinda odd that a Big company like Panasonc Phils would not have their own server but use the email service of yahoo!

Also, Panasonic Phils should have publish this warning in major newspapers and not only in PDVD if they're alarmed by owners who have ther tvs calibrated. Sus, PDVD members make up only a very very small fraction of AV market in the Phils

surg · « **Reply #33 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 09:07 PM »

Quote from: Nemesis91 on Oct 16, 2008 at 06:18 PM

Service menu ibig sabihin nila not to touch RGB color, white balance etc. standard setting ok lang galawin of course color, contrast etc all standard display function. Factory display can be opened by a service remote or other calibrating instrument. It should be done by pana service crew kung sira lang yun unit. Kulang kasi explanation nila, nagalit kasi sila sa mga nag claim ng service sa panasonic na hindi galing sa kanila.

Then they should have post a warning to people NOT to buy Grey units and NOT about calibration

byron · « **Reply #34 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 09:08 PM »

Quote from: [email protected] on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Panasonic Plasmas are of the highest quality and definitely the most Superior in PDP category!
Attention!!!
=> Manual calibration is not allowed..it will definitely VOID warranty!
THOSE GIVING FREE CALIBRATION FOR PLASMAS ARE DEFINITELY NOT AUTHORIZED PANASONIC
PHILIPPINES DEALERS..BEWARE!!!!!!!
=> Purchase only from authorized Panasonic Philippines dealers.
=> Never purchase from grey market dealers because our trademark Panasonic Philippines Customer Service Satisfaction can't be availed.

wow, such bold statements .... but severely lacking in explanation. why i can change any setting i want on my TV using my remote control to calibrate.

barrister · « **Reply #35 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 09:33 PM »

Attention!!!

=> Manual calibration is OK.

JUST DON'T TELL PANASONIC THAT YOU CALIBRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #36 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 09:44 PM »

Quote from: barrister on Oct 16, 2008 at 09:33 PM

Attention!!!

=> Manual calibration is OK.

JUST DON'T TELL PANASONIC THAT YOU CALIBRATED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He should have thought of things before posting such statement, ginagawa naman niyang T*NGA ang mga
nandito sa forum. Still giving him the benefit of the doubt, I am very much excited on what will be his response on the matter after reading the posts of other forumers,...

surg · « **Reply #37 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 10:07 PM »

hahaha dami agad posts dito. parang yun scam thread

Carlo777 · « **Reply #38 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 10:12 PM »

Sana PanaPhil could enlighten us, I'm still giving that account the benifit of the doubt, baka naman talaga taga panny yan. Even though the registered e-mail of Panasonic is

[email protected] , per Panasonic's own website.

If Panasonic really does not like the idea of color calibration in whatever form, then I will just go for another brand. I'm sorry but color calibration really makes a lot of difference.

surg · « **Reply #39 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 10:37 PM »

Quote from: Carlo777 on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:12 PM

Sana PanaPhil could enlighten us, I'm still giving that account the benifit of the doubt, baka naman talaga taga panny yan. Even though the registered e-mail of Panasonic is

[email protected] , per Panasonic's own website.
If Panasonic really does not like the idea of color calibration in whatever form, then I will just go for another brand. I'm sorry but color calibration really makes a lot of difference.

Buking! fake!

naku the plan backfired. pati siya mawawalan ng benta

ABCmotorparts · « **Reply #40 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 10:43 PM »

Quote from: surg on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Buking! fake!

naku the plan backfired. pati siya mawawalan ng benta

Psst...

Behave doc... hahahahaha!

Benedict

Carlo777 · « **Reply #41 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 10:44 PM »

Quote from: surg on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Buking! fake!

Di naman sir, malay nyo personal e-mail ng isang taga panny yan( hope he/she really has the mandate of Panasonic Phil). Kaya, I'm not judging the account yet, there must be a good explanation for all this.

ricky · « **Reply #42 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 11:14 PM »

I think samsung also has this warning about unauthorized access of the service menu that voids the warranty

Yon yung sinabi sa akin ng samsung technician re our 55''dlp

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #43 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 11:24 PM »

Quote from: surg on Oct 16, 2008 at 10:37 PM

Buking! fake!

naku the plan backfired. pati siya mawawalan ng benta

bakit fake eh, PMPC nga email ng tao? Panasonic Manufacturing Phil Corp. And what do you mean mawawalan ng benta? eh ang dami kumukuha sa kanila.

surg · « **Reply #44 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 11:43 PM »

Quote from: Nemesis91 on Oct 16, 2008 at 11:24 PM

bakit fake eh, PMPC nga email ng tao? Panasonic Manufacturing Phil Corp. And what do you mean mawawalan ng benta? eh ang dami kumukuha sa kanila.

Precisely sir. Sir carlo777 posted that the registered email of Panasonic is pmpc BUT email address of the one who started this thread was [email protected]. Is [email protected] the same as [email protected]?

Regarding to my post mawawalan ng benta, I'm just referring to sir carlo777 post: "then I will just go to another brand". Hindi po ba mawawalan sila ng isang customer because sir carlo777 is contemplating of getting another brand? Hindi ko naman pi-nost mawawalan siya ng MGA benta. NG benta lang meaning isang tao lang.

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #45 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 11:50 PM »

Quote from: surg on Oct 16, 2008 at 11:43 PM

Precisely sir. Sir carlo777 posted that the registered email of Panasonic is pmpc BUT email address of the one who started this thread was [email protected]. Is [email protected] the same as [email protected]?

Regarding to my post mawawalan ng benta, I'm just referring to sir carlo777 post: "then I will just go to another brand". Hindi po ba mawawalan sila ng isang customer because sir carlo777 is contemplating of getting another brand?

Bakit di mo nalang tawagan, eto number nya. #09175054605. 10am-5pm office time Mon-Sat
same guy who also hold the account of Anson, Abenson, SM and other chain stores.

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #46 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM »

Quote from: ricky on Oct 16, 2008 at 11:14 PM

I think samsung also has this warning about unauthorized access of the service menu that voids the warranty Yon yung sinabi sa akin ng samsung technician re our 55''dlp

This is what they mean, if your buying a brand new car syempre sa Casa yung service or void yung 3 years warranty ng car.. eh kung may masira sa loob, sasagutin ba ng freelance technician yung damage sa car? lets say bago palang gusto ko na gawin turbo sagutin kaya ng kasa?. I dont know why na kailangan palakihin yung issue regarding this standard procedure ng warranty. The warning is intended for us to be aware of the consequence of what might happen incase ma damage yung RGB colors of the plasma, who will be the one shouldering it. Alam naman natin what our basic remote control can do there is limitation, di naman natin ma a-access yung setting w/out a special remote or tool. His info was a bit forward and lacks explaination but he is indeed a panasonic personel.

Mr. Surg you can meet him if you want, I can arrange a meeting so he can further explain to you what you want to hear. Para wala ng guessing game. I'm not like that

surg · « **Reply #47 on:** Oct 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM »

If you would backread, majority of the posts were questioning the credibility of the warning if it really came from Pana Phils or the email address so why single me out

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #48 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 12:11 AM »

Quote from: surg on Oct 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM

If you would backread, majority of the posts were questioning the credibility of the warning if it really came from Pana Phils or the email address so why single me out

No problem, I just read this post today.

Ayaw mo nun at least ikaw na mag post kung ma meet mo sila this Sat. 2pm you can also invite you friends to meet them, baka makahirit pa tayo ng discount at extended warranties and tips how to keep you unit safe from damage. Para walang guessing game

iiinas · « **Reply #49 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 12:34 AM »

i think wala ng problema na from panasonic na nga yung tao, as confirmed by sir nemesis, its just disappointing that someone from the manufacturer itself will make a post such as the one the guy from panasonic did here, not even taking the time to really think of what message he wants to put across. syempre pdvd ito, wherein majority of members are actually well versed and well informed about stuff like these. and for him to state his message like he was just informing a bunch of six graders is just plain insulting.

anyway, thoughts ko lang naman. kasi if you read the first post kung hindi pa na-confirm na taga panaphil nga sya, the post really lacks credibility.

stickfighter · « **Reply #50 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 06:34 AM »

IMHO, I think this guy form pana doesn't know what he's talking about!

R1DVD · « **Reply #51 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 06:39 AM »

Quote from: surg on Oct 16, 2008 at 02:05 PM

I think that whoever started this thread just want to ruin other people...and that's BAD!

I agree with you surg on this one. Alam naman natin dito sa board kung sino ang nag-ooffer ng free calibration so parang siraan lang ang nangyayari dito. It's a good thing I got myself a Pioneer instead of Panasonic..he!he! And to panaphil, please read on the thread that you started and elaborate. Otherwise, this will really just backfire on Panasonic

streetsmart · « **Reply #52 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 08:11 AM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Oct 16, 2008 at 03:58 PM

For me, the only thing that would make sense is if the OP was referring to the Service Menu of the display. In general, you should be careful when you tweak the Service Menu because it may be possible to damage the unit if you tweak certain parameters.

Generally, however, most calibrators would only tweak the bias and gain in the Service Menu and that should not be a problem. In fact, with the proper instruments and software, it will vastly improve the picture.

Of course, the OP may only be trying to undermine the sales of stores which offer free calibration. That's speculation but I can't help thinking that way cuz the first post is so badly written and with so little information that it's hard to believe that a rep of Panasonic Philippines had actually written it.

Quote from: Nemesis91 on Oct 16, 2008 at 11:53 PM

This is what they mean, if your buying a brand new car syempre sa Casa yung service or void yung 3 years warranty ng car.. eh kung may masira sa loob, sasagutin ba ng freelance technician yung damage sa car? lets say bago palang gusto ko na gawin turbo sagutin kaya ng kasa?. I dont know why na kailangan palakihin yung issue regarding this standard procedure ng warranty. The warning is intended for us to be aware of the consequence of what might happen incase ma damage yung RGB colors of the plasma, who will be the one shouldering it. Alam naman natin what our basic remote control can do there is limitation, di naman natin ma a-access yung setting w/out a special remote or tool. His info was a bit forward and lacks explaination but he is indeed a panasonic personel.

Jeff, that's what I thought he actually meant and that is a valid point because you can actually damage the unit by tweaking certain Service Menu parameters. Unfortunately, d naman nya sinabi yun. Ang sinabi nya is "Manual calibration." Ibang iba ang ibig sabihin nun sa "Calibration via Service Menu."

This is quite a serious issue and Panasonic should have done better preparation and reviewed the wording of that post. The way it was done, people are absolutely shocked that such a reputable company would issue such a poorly-written and misleading statement.

surg · « **Reply #53 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 09:26 AM »

@nemesis:
Kindly read posts of sirs stickfighter, R1DVD, streetsmart right after your post at 12:11 am today. I need not say anything more

Thank you for your offer for me to meet the guy from PanaPhils but I have to decline the offer. I'm from the province and I wouldn't waste my time going there just to meet them. In the first place, if he posted was tweaking the service menu then no questions would be asked kaso manual calibration ang post nya and as we all know, manual calibration is very different from calibration via service menu

kelz · « **Reply #54 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 09:26 AM »

di lang pala clear yung post ni panasonic personnel. para kasing may pinapatamaan yung post nya eh. iisang store lang naman nag ooffer dito ng free calibration for panasonic plasma tv's. anyway, may issue na ba dito na may nakialam ng service menu? Wala naman yata nagiging issue dito ng ganyan para gumawa sya ng bold warning na ganyan

surg · « **Reply #55 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 09:30 AM »

Quote from: kelz on Oct 17, 2008 at 09:26 AM

di lang pala clear yung post ni panasonic personnel. para kasing may pinapatamaan yung post nya eh. iisang store lang naman nag ooffer dito ng free calibration for panasonic plasma tv's. anyway, may issue na ba dito na may nakialam ng service menu? Wala naman yata nagiging issue dito ng ganyan para gumawa sya ng bold warning na ganyan

AMEN to that

otepsy · « **Reply #56 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM »

Quote from: [email protected] on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Attention!!!
=> Manual calibration is not allowed..it will definitely VOID warranty!
THOSE GIVING FREE CALIBRATION FOR PLASMAS ARE DEFINITELY NOT AUTHORIZED PANASONIC
PHILIPPINES DEALERS..BEWARE!!!!!!!

ang linaw linaw oh Manual Calibration daw hindi Service menu, at nilakihan pa yung THOSE GIVING FREE CALIBRATION sino lang ba yun, malinaw lang talaga na sinisiraan.

ang spyder calibration di naman ginagalaw ang service menu IMO....

natatawa na lang talaga ko dito. hahahahaha nasan na kaya c [email protected] sana man lang i-elaborate nya yun sinabi nya...

to all panasonic authorized dealers question meron bang utos o memo sa inyo ang Panasonic Phil. na bawal mag-offer ng FREE CALIBRATION? I'm sure kung meron dapat kayo ang unang-una na sasabihan ng PanaPhil na bawal yan. kayo na lang po ang sumagot kasi mukhang wala na si [email protected]

Nemesis91 · « **Reply #57 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 10:23 AM »

Quote from: streetsmart on Oct 17, 2008 at 08:11 AM

Jeff, that's what I thought he actually meant and that is a valid point because you can actually damage the unit by tweaking certain Service Menu parameters. Unfortunately, d naman nya sinabi yun. Ang sinabi nya is "Manual calibration." Ibang iba ang ibig sabihin nun sa "Calibration via Service Menu."

This is quite a serious issue and Panasonic should have done better preparation and reviewed the wording of that post. The way it was done, people are absolutely shocked that such a reputable company would issue such a poorly-written and misleading statement.

I agree di lang clear yung pag post nila, we'll inform their office the soonest. I'm sure they have a reason for doing that, and I'm gonna find out.

surg · « **Reply #58 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 10:30 AM »

Quote from: [email protected] on Oct 15, 2008 at 10:21 PM

Panasonic Plasmas are of the highest quality and definitely the most Superior in PDP category!
Attention!!!
=> Manual calibration is not allowed..it will definitely VOID warranty!
THOSE GIVING FREE CALIBRATION FOR PLASMAS ARE DEFINITELY NOT AUTHORIZED PANASONIC
PHILIPPINES DEALERS..BEWARE!!!!!!!
=> Purchase only from authorized Panasonic Philippines dealers.
=> Never purchase from grey market dealers because our trademark Panasonic Philippines Customer Service Satisfaction can't be availed.

Pansin ko lang why yun sentence "THOSE GIVING FREE CALIBRATION FOR PLASMA ARE DEFNITELY NOT AUTHORIZED PANASONOC PHILIPPINES DEALERS...BEWARE!!!" Ang naka-CAPITALIZED?!!

... Means he's giving more emphasis to that rather than to the manual calibration when the thread name is about manual calibration

As far as i'm concerned, I bought my Pana from the store who offer free manual calibration and I got a Phil Panasonic Certificate from them

streetsmart · « **Reply #59 on:** Oct 17, 2008 at 10:32 AM »

Quote from: otepsy on Oct 17, 2008 at 10:15 AM

ang spyder calibration di naman ginagalaw ang service menu IMO....

There are certain displays which allow you to adjust the RGB bias and gain (often, there are different labels for these like cut/boost) via the ordinary User Menu, not just the Service Menu. You need these controls in order to calibrate the gray-scale of the display.

I know that the Panny pj's allow this. In these cases, you can do the Spyder calibration without entering the Service Menu. Otherwise, you have to use the Service Menu. D ko lang alam if the Panny TV's allow these adjustments.

The Service Menu will often have these controls as well, but with much more refined steps. Kumbaga, if the ordinary menu is -10 to +10, baka -50 to +50 ang Service menu. Ergo, it is better to use the Service Menu for calibration.

In any case, if you use the Service Menu only for the RGB bias and gain, there should be no problem whatsoever - I always do that with my own Sony pj. HOWEVER, there are many parameters contained in the Service Menu and there are some parameters which you should absolutely not touch, else baka masira ang display or shortened ang life. That's why the manufacturers will naturally be wary about people entering the Service Menu.