Post by: denber on May 30, 2015 at 10:37 AM
My wife has been asking me kung pwede ba daw nya connect ang magic sing namin sa 2.1 hifi system ko but i told her na its a no-no daw na gawing videoke ang hifi. But I've read din naman dito sa pdvd na pwede naman mag videoke basta in moderation lang. Pwede kaya na bili na lang ako ng pang videoke speakers like konzert or crown and swap ko na lang speakers ko pag nag videoke na? instead of buying another amp+speakers for videoke. Any advice? tia
Post by: JojoD818 on May 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM
If budget permits, a separate konzert/crown/sakura amp+speaker setup would be best, but this takes space and all that but at least your 2.1 hifi system is safe from the tortures of videoke. The things you can do for a videoke setup is limitless but for a simple one, a cheap amp+speaker unit is a good alternative.
My kids love to sing, so I also made a videoke setup. I use a separate Phonic mic/line mixer, a 100-preset delay processor (I don't use the mic input and echo of my T40+ videoke player), a 3-band EQ, and a separate compressor/expander. The results are, if I may say so, excellent. Sa ganda ng kinalabasan madalas maghapon sila kung kumanta. :-P
Post by: nogo on May 30, 2015 at 10:13 PM
You can use your existing 2.1 hifi system but it might pain you to hear your system when someone's tries to hit some high notes or when the mic is having a bad day like being dropped and having feedback hehehe...Hmmmm. Sir jojoD magkano aabutin kung magpagawa ng gear na yan? Hehehe
If budget permits, a separate konzert/crown/sakura amp+speaker setup would be best, but this takes space and all that but at least your 2.1 hifi system is safe from the tortures of videoke. The things you can do for a videoke setup is limitless but for a simple one, a cheap amp+speaker unit is a good alternative.
My kids love to sing, so I also made a videoke setup. I use a separate Phonic mic/line mixer, a 100-preset delay processor (I don't use the mic input and echo of my T40+ videoke player), a 3-band EQ, and a separate compressor/expander. The results are, if I may say so, excellent. Sa ganda ng kinalabasan madalas maghapon sila kung kumanta. :-P
Post by: ti on May 30, 2015 at 11:28 PM
naisip ko lang kung pwede o meron PA Speaker lang wherein yung mic ko doon naka plug.
At yung background music sa AVR lang. naisip ko para yung vocals s PA speaker lang po ?
oks din kaya yung ganon?
TIA
Post by: JojoD818 on May 30, 2015 at 11:36 PM
Hmmmm. Sir jojoD magkano aabutin kung magpagawa ng gear na yan? Hehehe
Kung yun videoke source ang kakabitan ng mic at may echo/reverb na then amp/speakers na lang invest niya. Eto kasi ginawa ko para sa mga anak ko ito, I put as much as I can to make their videoke experience enjoyable and maganda talaga boses... priceless mga yan hehehe.
Ang problema lang, kapag nasa labas sila ayaw kumanta sa mga videoke machines, naghahanap ng magandang mic/system. :-P
Post by: JojoD818 on May 30, 2015 at 11:37 PM
mga sir, since halos same kami ng dilema ni TS, and setup ko naman ay video player -> onkyo avr->AN Speaker.
naisip ko lang kung pwede o meron PA Speaker lang wherein yung mic ko doon naka plug.
At yung background music sa AVR lang. naisip ko para yung vocals s PA speaker lang po ?
oks din kaya yung ganon?
TIA
Pwede, meron mga powered speakers sir na may mic input na direct. Ang nakikita ko lang naman problema dun wala ka delay processor at baka localized ang tunog pero nasa placement lang naman yan.
Post by: ti on May 31, 2015 at 12:06 AM
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Pwede, meron mga powered speakers sir na may mic input na direct. Ang nakikita ko lang naman problema dun wala ka delay processor at baka localized ang tunog pero nasa placement lang naman yan.
Salamar po sir. pero pwede po sana pa explain yung "delay processor at localized", ano po impact noon sa ganong setup.
Ang personal na pagkakaintindi ay yung sounds ng videoke sa AV lalabas then yung vocals ko sa PA. kung sa mga 12sqm na sala lang. Let say yung PA sa gitna lng Tower speaker na mga 3M apart. ano po kaya ang sound effect noon po.
Salamat.
Post by: JojoD818 on May 31, 2015 at 12:23 AM
Salamar po sir. pero pwede po sana pa explain yung "delay processor at localized", ano po impact noon sa ganong setup.
Ang personal na pagkakaintindi ay yung sounds ng videoke sa AV lalabas then yung vocals ko sa PA. kung sa mga 12sqm na sala lang. Let say yung PA sa gitna lng Tower speaker na mga 3M apart. ano po kaya ang sound effect noon po.
Salamat.
What I mean is wala ka magiging echo/reverb kung sa mga powered speakers ka magkakabit ng mic mo sir. Localized is you know the vocals would be coming from that speakers only, unless you do some arranging the music accompaniment coming from the AV may not blend well with the vocals coming from the powered speaker.
Sa studio at concert gigs ginagawa din po yan para sa monitors ng artists kung saan vocals lang ang lalabas pero may mixdown pa din sa main mix papunta sa distribution speakers.
Post by: ti on May 31, 2015 at 12:27 AM
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What I mean is wala ka magiging echo/reverb kung sa mga powered speakers ka magkakabit ng mic mo sir. Localized is you know the vocals would be coming from that speakers only, unless you do some arranging the music accompaniment coming from the AV may not blend well with the vocals coming from the powered speaker.
Sa studio at concert gigs ginagawa din po yan para sa monitors ng artists kung saan vocals lang ang lalabas pero may mixdown pa din sa main mix papunta sa distribution speakers.
Maraming salamat sir, naliwanagan na po ako. hehehe
Post by: denber on May 31, 2015 at 07:54 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 01, 2015 at 02:28 PM
thanks sir jojod818. I'll buy a separate amp+speaker na lang. Parang di rin kakayanin siguro ng budget ko yung videoke setup nyo ;D I saw sa konzert amp+speaker worth 11k and ok din sa wifey ang price hehehehe
you're welcome sir, checkout the amps from sakura and concert, they also have matching speakers available. do stay away from sakura's av200t, hindi ok pang videoke yan umuusok. yun mga 7-series nila or those used inside for rent videoke machines are the best choice. tama mga 11K sir sawa ka na maghapon diyan kantahan. ;D
kaya mo naman yun sir unti-unti lang kagaya ng ginawa ko, iba ang experience kapag naka mixer with individual mic EQs and compressors. ang problema lang baka hindi ka na kumanta sa ibang bahay. ;D ;D ;D
since you are into the hobby of singing, another thing you should pay attention to is the microphone. cheap ones from Kevler and Trident can be had for less than 1K, stay away from those Yamaha, Shure, Audio Technica clones, walang kwenta yan.
if you have additional budget, get a Shure SM58, it's about 4K yata sa Audiophile... wag mo lang pagagamit pag nakainom na baka mabagsak lang.
Post by: TinkerTailor on Jun 01, 2015 at 08:12 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 02, 2015 at 08:20 PM
Sarap siguro kumanta sa videoke setup nyo sir JojoD818. :)
Sarap sir sa kumakanta, ewan lang dun sa nakikinig hahaha! ;D
Post by: ti on Jun 02, 2015 at 10:06 PM
Dati may konzert + Konzert Speaker na din ako. ayos talaga , mga 5 years ko din na nagamit.
then a classmate introduce me the world of tube amps and better speakers.
naengganyo ako so i end up buying AVR, tube amp at FS.
yung Konzert setup binigay ko n lang sa bayaw ko.
Pag nagka budget, baka bumili na lang ako ng PA speaker for vocal.
@Sir JojoD818
pero parang interesting yan mixer + equalizer setup nyo po.
Kung pwede po sana mabigyan nyo po kami ng reference or sample layout ng interconnection nyan para ma integrate sa katulad namin na may existing amp+speaker setup.
wala po ako talaga ako idea basta ang alam ko pa lang ay dapat ko protektahan yung FS kaya naisip yung PA for vocals but kung yung equalizer + mixer setup ay maliit lang naman yung footprint at kung possible mawala na sa picture yung PA speaker , mukhang oks nga yan
TIA
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 02, 2015 at 10:33 PM
you're welcome sir, checkout the amps from sakura and concert, they also have matching speakers available. do stay away from sakura's av200t, hindi ok pang videoke yan umuusok. yun mga 7-series nila or those used inside for rent videoke machines are the best choice. tama mga 11K sir sawa ka na maghapon diyan kantahan. ;D
kaya mo naman yun sir unti-unti lang kagaya ng ginawa ko, iba ang experience kapag naka mixer with individual mic EQs and compressors. ang problema lang baka hindi ka na kumanta sa ibang bahay. ;D ;D ;D
since you are into the hobby of singing, another thing you should pay attention to is the microphone. cheap ones from Kevler and Trident can be had for less than 1K, stay away from those Yamaha, Shure, Audio Technica clones, walang kwenta yan.
if you have additional budget, get a Shure SM58, it's about 4K yata sa Audiophile... wag mo lang pagagamit pag nakainom na baka mabagsak lang.
May bagong labas ang Shure, mga PM series, may below P2k.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 06:53 AM
May bagong labas ang Shure, mga PM series, may below P2k.
Yup, but between the PM and SM series sa SM pa din ako that's why it's what I recommend. Well worth the extra cost. Kung mag PM series mas matipid pa mag Trident, same sensitivity and dynamic bandwidth lang halos.
Yun sukli may pambili ng upgraded disc ng videoke player.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:11 AM
napadaan ulit....
Dati may konzert + Konzert Speaker na din ako. ayos talaga , mga 5 years ko din na nagamit.
then a classmate introduce me the world of tube amps and better speakers.
naengganyo ako so i end up buying AVR, tube amp at FS.
yung Konzert setup binigay ko n lang sa bayaw ko.
Pag nagka budget, baka bumili na lang ako ng PA speaker for vocal.
@Sir JojoD818
pero parang interesting yan mixer + equalizer setup nyo po.
Kung pwede po sana mabigyan nyo po kami ng reference or sample layout ng interconnection nyan para ma integrate sa katulad namin na may existing amp+speaker setup.
wala po ako talaga ako idea basta ang alam ko pa lang ay dapat ko protektahan yung FS kaya naisip yung PA for vocals but kung yung equalizer + mixer setup ay maliit lang naman yung footprint at kung possible mawala na sa picture yung PA speaker , mukhang oks nga yan
TIA
This is what I use po...
(https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/46523_4220425221131_672230451_n.jpg?oh=880463d08caed0663cee75f8ec02c7e6&oe=55EA7441)
It has a pad which you can use for low/high output mics, although it has phantom power I never use it since puro dynamic mics lang meron ako. There is a British type 3-band eq for the highs/mids/lows, a British type tone eq is a full-cut type eq where you can change the contour of each band or even fully cut it without varying the adjacent band.
There is also a 100-preset voice processor effects which I use instead of the built-in echo in the videoke player. My videoke player is connected as a line input that goes through a dedicated compressor, minsan kasi hindi pantay-pantay ang accompaniment, meron kanta na malakas ang background meron mahina, the compressor takes care of this.
The mixer has a send/return section for outboard effects, I use it to send the mics to a compander (compressor/expander) so that the mics are gated, pag mahina ang boses it compensates, kapag napalakas naman it compresses, so it doesn't make those nasty distortion sound. The blending is adjustable, it's up to you whether you like it wet or dry, the mixer has separate send/return settings for each mic inputs.
This is what I use for that... aside from the compression and expansion I was also able to squeeze in a BBE sonic maximizer inside.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jojod818/media/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg.html)
Yun output ng mixer goes to a diy amp and blasts a diy'd MTM floorstander.
Hope this helps.
Post by: ti on Jun 03, 2015 at 08:25 AM
pag aaralan ko po yan.
Post by: praktikal on Jun 03, 2015 at 06:16 PM
kung ang room size is 14-20 sqm ano ang mas ok, 10" 2-way, 91dB or 12" 3-way, 94dB?
may mga nagsasabing overkill ang 12" sa ganung size kasi malakas nga daw pero hindi ba mas maganda sa karaoke kung may midrange?
para sa akin mas pipiliin ko ang mas malaki kung kaya din lang naman ng amp then hinaan ko na lang ang volume, at least sakaling gamitin sa mas malaking room o outdoor e hindi bitin.
ano nga ba?
Post by: zram18 on Jun 03, 2015 at 06:55 PM
yung 10", garalgal na ang tunog pag nilakasan at 3/4 volume unlike yung 12", mas maganda at suwabe pati yung kalabog. kayang kaya pa nya kahit sumisigaw na yung singer, or yung mga songs na need mo sumigaw para maabot ang tono. you cannot do that sa 10" because if you do it, distorted na po ang sound.thats based on my experience, i just dont know kung paano kayo kumanta basta ako meron songs talaga na need ko sumigaw para maabot yung tono,hehe. sa 10", laging pabulong ang kanta mo.
as a matter of fact, all commercial videoke uses 12" size woofers -not 10.
need mo nga lang mas malaking space because of its huge size.and just lower the volume.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:01 PM
on karaoke speakers naman:
kung ang room size is 14-20 sqm ano ang mas ok, 10" 2-way, 91dB or 12" 3-way, 94dB?
para sa akin mas pipiliin ko ang mas malaki kung kaya din lang naman ng amp then hinaan ko na lang ang volume, at least sakaling gamitin sa mas malaking room o outdoor e hindi bitin.
ano nga ba?
Hhmmm... ako gamit ko diy lang na D'apolito inspired MTM (midbass-tweeter-midbass). Believe it or not the midbass is just 6.5"
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may mga nagsasabing overkill ang 12" sa ganung size kasi malakas nga daw pero hindi ba mas maganda sa karaoke kung may midrange?
Not necessarily. Yun naman 2-way ang cutoff ng crossover is different from the 3-way. So a physical midrange driver doesn't necessarily mean na mas ok ang mids nun. ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:04 PM
sir for me, choose the 12". i tested 10" and 12" karaoke speakers for so many times already.
yung 10", garalgal na ang tunog pag nilakasan at 3/4 volume unlike yung 12", mas maganda at suwabe pati yung kalabog. kayang kaya pa nya kahit sumisigaw na yung singer, or yung mga songs na need mo sumigaw para maabot ang tono. you cannot do that sa 10" because if you do it, distorted na po ang sound.thats based on my experience, i just dont know kung paano kayo kumanta basta ako meron songs talaga na need ko sumigaw para maabot yung tono,hehe. sa 10", laging pabulong ang kanta mo.
as a matter of fact, all commercial videoke uses 12" size woofers -not 10.
need mo nga lang mas malaking space because of its huge size.and just lower the volume.
naku 6.5" lang drivers ko eh... pano na yun? baka mabasa ito ng anak ko ah... ;D
Post by: praktikal on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:17 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:20 PM
Hhmmm... ako gamit ko diy lang na D'apolito inspired MTM (midbass-tweeter-midbass). Believe it or not the midbass is just 6.5"
Not necessarily. Yun naman 2-way ang cutoff ng crossover is different from the 3-way. So a physical midrange driver doesn't necessarily mean na mas ok ang mids nun. ;D
Correct ka diyan tukayo. Proper implementation ang kailangan.
Post by: praktikal on Jun 03, 2015 at 07:32 PM
sir for me, choose the 12". i tested 10" and 12" karaoke speakers for so many times already.
yung 10", garalgal na ang tunog pag nilakasan at 3/4 volume unlike yung 12", mas maganda at suwabe pati yung kalabog. kayang kaya pa nya kahit sumisigaw na yung singer, or yung mga songs na need mo sumigaw para maabot ang tono. you cannot do that sa 10" because if you do it, distorted na po ang sound.thats based on my experience, i just dont know kung paano kayo kumanta basta ako meron songs talaga na need ko sumigaw para maabot yung tono,hehe. sa 10", laging pabulong ang kanta mo.
as a matter of fact, all commercial videoke uses 12" size woofers -not 10.
need mo nga lang mas malaking space because of its huge size.and just lower the volume.
pwedeng malaman ang mga brands pati ng amp?
Post by: zram18 on Jun 03, 2015 at 09:29 PM
Konzert amp-Konzert speakers, or Sakura amp-Crown speakers. yan ang madalas nasa loob ng videoke machines na nakikita ko sa ngayon.
meron din Db Audio, BMB and Daichi, etc pero yung naunang dalawa daw ang mabenta.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jun 03, 2015 at 09:32 PM
Post by: praktikal on Jun 03, 2015 at 10:01 PM
sir, usual videoke speakers with 12" used in the market today:
Konzert amp-Konzert speakers, or Sakura amp-Crown speakers. yan ang madalas nasa loob ng videoke machines na nakikita ko sa ngayon.
meron din Db Audio, BMB and Daichi, etc pero yung naunang dalawa daw ang mabenta.
hindi dahil mabenta ay maganda. ang mga yan walang crossover. ang daiichi lang yata ang meron.
try mo yung kay anthony. gusto ko ring mapakinggan/
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:10 PM
^ lalo na ako, 4.25" lang :(
Malamang tweeter pa lang yan?! ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:14 PM
sir, usual videoke speakers with 12" used in the market today:
Konzert amp-Konzert speakers, or Sakura amp-Crown speakers. yan ang madalas nasa loob ng videoke machines na nakikita ko sa ngayon.
meron din Db Audio, BMB and Daichi, etc pero yung naunang dalawa daw ang mabenta.
Yes I know sir, ang dahilan lang naman kasi kaya mabenta ang 12" kaysa sa 10" eh saktong sakto ang sukat ng 12" sa kaha ng mga commercial videoke machines. Ang tao kaso pakitaan mo ng machine na may 10" at 12" ang pipiliin niyan yun mas malaki ang drivers, kahit sino po puwesto yan ang sasabihin.
Pero tama din naman, kung kasya naman ang 12" at maganda ang kakalabasan ayos na yun.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:16 PM
Correct ka diyan tukayo. Proper implementation ang kailangan.
Basta maganda sa tenga tukayo... ang masama yun wala na sa tono tapos sablay pa implementation. Ouch yan... ;D
Buti na lang nakatikim ng voice lessons mga anak ko, hay, riot pag weekends wala pa kasing pasok.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:22 PM
Basta maganda sa tenga tukayo... ang masama yun wala na sa tono tapos sablay pa implementation. Ouch yan... ;D
Buti na lang nakatikim ng voice lessons mga anak ko, hay, riot pag weekends wala pa kasing pasok.
Tukayo, para saan pala yun compressor mo? For the mic only? And if you didn't use the mic input of your karaoke, paano ang scoring nun?
Post by: RXV on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:32 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:44 PM
Another Videoke Question: Do you really look at the scoring? Kasi, minsan 100, kahit ampangit naman ng boses :D
Actually for kantyawan purposes siya for my family and not who's better. Wala lang. :D
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 03, 2015 at 11:57 PM
Tukayo, para saan pala yun compressor mo? For the mic only? And if you didn't use the mic input of your karaoke, paano ang scoring nun?
Mics and the videoke too tukayo. Meron kasi songs na ang lakas while there are those na sobrang hina.
Ayun lang disabled ang scoring. ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 12:00 AM
Another Videoke Question: Do you really look at the scoring? Kasi, minsan 100, kahit ampangit naman ng boses :D
No not really sir. Paano pa mag scoring eh yun bunso ko 4 years old buhol-buhol pa ang lyrics hahaha! Pagkatapos kumanta sisigaw pa siya ng "palakpakan!". ;D
So masaya naman kahit walang score. ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2015 at 12:07 AM
Mics and the videoke too tukayo. Meron kasi songs na ang lakas while there are those na sobrang hina.
Ayun lang disabled ang scoring. ;D
Bale 1 compressor na lang ginamit mo for the whole system or hiwalay yun mic compressor sa system compressor?
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 08:56 AM
Bale 1 compressor na lang ginamit mo for the whole system or hiwalay yun mic compressor sa system compressor?
At the moment separate. The mics get compression from the fx send/return while the videoke passes through the compressor first before going into the mixer.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:02 AM
At the moment separate. The mics get compression from the fx send/return while the videoke passes through the compressor first before going into the mixer.
Got it tukayo. Something to study na naman.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:09 AM
Got it tukayo. Something to study na naman.
Tukayo, a cheap way is to use a pro 2-channel compressor, 1 channel for efx send/return then the other channel for the minus one. Ang problema lang dito tukayo yun minus one eh magiging mono. Pero hindi naman natin siguro kailangan ng soundstage at imaging dun diba?
Hindi ko pa nasusubukan yan pero sa tingin ko kapag naka isang boteng wine na gaganda na din yan. ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:12 AM
Tukayo, a cheap way is to use a pro 2-channel compressor, 1 channel for efx send/return then the other channel for the minus one. Ang problema lang dito tukayo yun minus one eh magiging mono. Pero hindi naman natin siguro kailangan ng soundstage at imaging dun diba?
Hindi ko pa nasusubukan yan pero sa tingin ko kapag naka isang boteng wine na gaganda na din yan. ;D
May mga 8 channel mixer kaya na may efx send/return na? Madalas nahawakan ko is mga 30-40 channels lang ang may efx eh.
Post by: praktikal on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:37 AM
mahal din pala yang compressor master J. though maganda din pala ang meron para maintained ang output at hindi ka palaging mag adjust ng volume.
kung same ang importance ng EQ at compressor, alin ang uunahing bilhin?
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:45 AM
May mga 8 channel mixer kaya na may efx send/return na? Madalas nahawakan ko is mga 30-40 channels lang ang may efx eh.
Meron tukayo, yan sa akin meron eh.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:48 AM
kailangan ba talaga or should i say, may malaking improvement ba kung magdagdag ng equalizer vs sa usual 3? and if so, ano ang minimum number of bands?
mahal din pala yang compressor master J. though maganda din pala ang meron para maintained ang output at hindi ka palaging mag adjust ng volume.
kung same ang importance ng EQ at compressor, alin ang uunahing bilhin?
Forget the outboard EQ, yun 3-band sa mixer solve na, sobra sobra pa.
Sige gagawa tayo ng murang compressor pang videoke use. ;) (Pag di na busy hehehe)
Go for the compressor, actually it's a compander, a compressor and expander in one.
Post by: praktikal on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:55 AM
Forget the outboard EQ, yun 3-band sa mixer solve na, sobra sobra pa.
Sige gagawa tayo ng murang compressor pang videoke use. ;) (Pag di na busy hehehe)
Go for the compressor, actually it's a compander, a compressor and expander in one.
yun oh! panalo!
pls reserve O0
Post by: TinkerTailor on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:09 AM
Post by: nogo on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:51 AM
Forget the outboard EQ, yun 3-band sa mixer solve na, sobra sobra pa.
Sige gagawa tayo ng murang compressor pang videoke use. ;) (Pag di na busy hehehe)
Go for the compressor, actually it's a compander, a compressor and expander in one.
Ayos. Abangan ko rin yan sir jojo:)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:56 AM
Analog naman ang gagawin mo tukayo dba?
Post by: praktikal on Jun 04, 2015 at 11:23 AM
Post by: melbourne on Jun 04, 2015 at 11:34 AM
Post by: nogo on Jun 04, 2015 at 01:09 PM
ala eh kadaming songer ah, dami agad reservations eh eh... game! hehePilit maging singer..hahaha
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 08:19 PM
yun oh! panalo!
pls reserve O0
Pareserve din ng isa sir JojoD818. ;D
Ayos. Abangan ko rin yan sir jojo:)
Ayos. May aabangan na naman tayo.
Ang daming gusto mag improve ang singing oh! ;D
Seriously, compressors not only make things "behave" but it also protects your system. Some tracks kasi are so loud while others are very soft. Sa singer side naman may birit na halos punitin ang dibdib mo sa awa sa speakers. ;D ;D ;D
Please reserve. :D
Analog naman ang gagawin mo tukayo dba?
Naku tukayo pag analog ang laki ng overshoot. Mag digital na tayo, the technology is here, let's use it to our singing advantage. ;)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2015 at 08:51 PM
Ang daming gusto mag improve ang singing oh! ;D
Seriously, compressors not only make things "behave" but it also protects your system. Some tracks kasi are so loud while others are very soft. Sa singer side naman may birit na halos punitin ang dibdib mo sa awa sa speakers. ;D ;D ;D
Naku tukayo pag analog ang laki ng overshoot. Mag digital na tayo, the technology is here, let's use it to our singing advantage. ;)
Malaking bagay ang compressor sa mga transients and peaks. Okay tukayo, ikaw bahala, basta walang issues sa conversion. Hehe!
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 09:49 PM
Malaking bagay ang compressor sa mga transients and peaks. Okay tukayo, ikaw bahala, basta walang issues sa conversion. Hehe!
There will be no conversion, the analog signal is still intact pero the compression circuit will be digital. Baka naman gusto mo detubo pa ang gawin natin compressor? Hahaha!
Post by: praktikal on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:31 PM
There will be no conversion, the analog signal is still intact pero the compression circuit will be digital. Baka naman gusto mo detubo pa ang gawin natin compressor? Hahaha!
aruu!
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:35 PM
aruu!
mainit yon brader... ang init na nga eh... tagaktak ang pawis kapag kumakanta hehehe...
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:39 PM
Actually for kantyawan purposes siya for my family and not who's better. Wala lang. :Dha ha ha..same here chief! pang asar purpose lang..he he ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 04, 2015 at 10:42 PM
There will be no conversion, the analog signal is still intact pero the compression circuit will be digital. Baka naman gusto mo detubo pa ang gawin natin compressor? Hahaha!
As bakit naman hindi. What would be a good compressor kundi tube din because of the harmonics na dala niya. Dba?
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 05, 2015 at 12:05 AM
As bakit naman hindi. What would be a good compressor kundi tube din because of the harmonics na dala niya. Dba?
Sa dami ng harmonics ng boses ng kumakanta talang gusto mo paagdagan ha... ;D
Post by: jnazareta on Jun 05, 2015 at 03:06 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 05, 2015 at 10:20 AM
UY...Nice thread..dami kong natutunan.. Sir Jojo, Taga valenzuela lang po kayo diba? where did you purchase the compressor? or DIY lang nyo sya? Pwede po ba makuha yung exact model ng Mixer nyo planning to buy po..Kasi right now ang setup ko is X-5 Platinum then yung out nya, I used an RCA splitter on both L/R. 1 pair of L/R RCA goes to my Pioneer reciever and I use the external stereo sa receiver para lahat ng speakers may tunog. Then the other pair of L/R RCA goes to my Sakura 737 amp and dun din nakakabit ang mic ko. what's missing po is yung ganda ng tunog ng mic. I'm planning to get a mixer po and I saw the picture you posted. The big question is pano po ang connection. wala po akong masyadong alam sa ganyan. and I really like to hear the difference nung may compressor and kung ano po ang magagawa nyang benefit sa system. Thanks po in advance sa magiging sagot nyo sa newbie na tulad ko. and if in case po na avail na yung compressor kindly reserve 1 for me.
Hello sir. Yes I'm from the infamous city made popular by the media due to the unfortunate factory fire incident that killed a lot of people. May their souls rest in peace.
I made it "lang" po sir. I've been toying around with these for a long time na. During the VHS and VCD days I use a jfet loaded compressor kasi meron mga scenes halos di ko na madinig ang dialogue pero pag may sumabog na or nagkabarilan na nakakataranta ang tunog so I put on a compressor as a dynamic limiter to my then 2.1 setup.
I believe it's a Phonic AM440D, the D stands for digital yata kasi meron walang D and walang efx. You don't necessarily need to get the same model naman but if you can it's a decent mixer with all the bells and whistles a growing boy needs. ;D
Madali lang yan sir, ang mic at platinum diretso sa mixer tapos yun out ng mixer pasok mo sa 737, yun out ng monitor pasok mo sa receiver. That way wala ka na y-splitter and you can control the amps separately from the mixer.
Lesson #1 para sa iyo sir, wag ka reserve ng reserve agad, mamaya walang kwenta yun compressor ko sige ikaw din hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
Valenzuela ka din ba sir?
Post by: roygee on Jun 05, 2015 at 01:35 PM
Need your help sana in my videoke set-up. Madalas ako makarinig ng feedback, yung matining na ingay.. so the singer would always need to find a spot para mawala ito. Medyo nabawasan yung feedback when I lessened the echo, pero andun pa rin. Paano kaya mawawala ito?
If it would help, my gears are just Platinum T40, Sakura 502 and HDT microphones. Thanks in advance!
Post by: praktikal on Jun 05, 2015 at 03:19 PM
gaano na katagal ang setup mo? na try mo nang gumamit ng ibang mic/cable?
Post by: deist on Jun 05, 2015 at 03:25 PM
This is what I use po...
(https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/46523_4220425221131_672230451_n.jpg?oh=880463d08caed0663cee75f8ec02c7e6&oe=55EA7441)
It has a pad which you can use for low/high output mics, although it has phantom power I never use it since puro dynamic mics lang meron ako. There is a British type 3-band eq for the highs/mids/lows, a British type tone eq is a full-cut type eq where you can change the contour of each band or even fully cut it without varying the adjacent band.
There is also a 100-preset voice processor effects which I use instead of the built-in echo in the videoke player. My videoke player is connected as a line input that goes through a dedicated compressor, minsan kasi hindi pantay-pantay ang accompaniment, meron kanta na malakas ang background meron mahina, the compressor takes care of this.
The mixer has a send/return section for outboard effects, I use it to send the mics to a compander (compressor/expander) so that the mics are gated, pag mahina ang boses it compensates, kapag napalakas naman it compresses, so it doesn't make those nasty distortion sound. The blending is adjustable, it's up to you whether you like it wet or dry, the mixer has separate send/return settings for each mic inputs.
This is what I use for that... aside from the compression and expansion I was also able to squeeze in a BBE sonic maximizer inside.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jojod818/media/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg.html)
Yun output ng mixer goes to a diy amp and blasts a diy'd MTM floorstander.
Hope this helps.
Post by: roygee on Jun 05, 2015 at 03:50 PM
^ sa experience ko ang nag cause ng feedback ay poor mic and cable, isama mo na rin ang mixer.2 weeks pa lang Sir, used it twice palang. No feedback if totally walang echo, pero kasi mas maganda ang tunog ng videoke na may konting echo. Will try to borrow a friends Shure mic and see what happens. Salamat!
gaano na katagal ang setup mo? na try mo nang gumamit ng ibang mic/cable?
Post by: praktikal on Jun 05, 2015 at 04:11 PM
2 weeks pa lang Sir, used it twice palang. No feedback if totally walang echo, pero kasi mas maganda ang tunog ng videoke na may konting echo. Will try to borrow a friends Shure mic and see what happens. Salamat!
bago pa pala. oo naman, mas ok ang may konting "kagat" ng echo. kahit saang mic inputs ng T40 at 502 merong feedback?
welcome
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 05, 2015 at 04:53 PM
Post by: markcrenz on Jun 05, 2015 at 05:58 PM
Goodpm Sirs,(http://www.behringer.com/assets/DSP1124P_banner.jpg)
Need your help sana in my videoke set-up. Madalas ako makarinig ng feedback, yung matining na ingay.. so the singer would always need to find a spot para mawala ito. Medyo nabawasan yung feedback when I lessened the echo, pero andun pa rin. Paano kaya mawawala ito?
If it would help, my gears are just Platinum T40, Sakura 502 and HDT microphones. Thanks in advance!
Post by: jnazareta on Jun 05, 2015 at 06:49 PM
Hello sir. Yes I'm from the infamous city made popular by the media due to the unfortunate factory fire incident that killed a lot of people. May their souls rest in peace.
I made it "lang" po sir. I've been toying around with these for a long time na. During the VHS and VCD days I use a jfet loaded compressor kasi meron mga scenes halos di ko na madinig ang dialogue pero pag may sumabog na or nagkabarilan na nakakataranta ang tunog so I put on a compressor as a dynamic limiter to my then 2.1 setup.
I believe it's a Phonic AM440D, the D stands for digital yata kasi meron walang D and walang efx. You don't necessarily need to get the same model naman but if you can it's a decent mixer with all the bells and whistles a growing boy needs. ;D
Madali lang yan sir, ang mic at platinum diretso sa mixer tapos yun out ng mixer pasok mo sa 737, yun out ng monitor pasok mo sa receiver. That way wala ka na y-splitter and you can control the amps separately from the mixer.
Lesson #1 para sa iyo sir, wag ka reserve ng reserve agad, mamaya walang kwenta yun compressor ko sige ikaw din hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
Valenzuela ka din ba sir?
Thanks for the input sir Jojo...From Novaliches po ako Jordan Plains to be exact po. If time permits po I would love to see your videoke in action po ay mine is nakukulangan ako sa boses po pag nakakabit sa sakura 737 parang may kulang po na di ko alam.
Post by: jerix on Jun 05, 2015 at 06:57 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 06, 2015 at 09:16 AM
Brader Jo, next level tong videoke setup mo ah! mukhang may ginu-groom na future recording artist sa family ;) 8)
Hindi naman brader, dagdag lang tayo ng kaunting pampaganda ng boses... ;D Well maayos naman na sila kumanta as compared to before hahaha... I'm just a father trying to give the best I can to my kids, pag nakikita ko enjoy sila ayus na sa atin mga tatay yan. ;)
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 06, 2015 at 09:21 AM
Goodpm Sirs,
Need your help sana in my videoke set-up. Madalas ako makarinig ng feedback, yung matining na ingay.. so the singer would always need to find a spot para mawala ito. Medyo nabawasan yung feedback when I lessened the echo, pero andun pa rin. Paano kaya mawawala ito?
If it would help, my gears are just Platinum T40, Sakura 502 and HDT microphones. Thanks in advance!
Bawas ka muna sir ng mic volume, tapos bawas ka treble sir. Ang problema lang pati background music bawas din treble yan pero ok na yun kaysa puro feedback, masakit sa tenga yan.
Ang masarap sa naka mixer you can cut/boost tones of individual mics, meron kasi mic brands na matinis like Shure, Yamaha, etc. Pag gusto ng brusko mag Sennheiser mics.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 06, 2015 at 09:22 AM
(http://www.behringer.com/assets/DSP1124P_banner.jpg)
ito maganda, subok ko na. meron din fbd yun deq2496 ko kaso sa audio ko gamit hindi sa videoke.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 06, 2015 at 09:27 AM
Thanks for the input sir Jojo...From Novaliches po ako Jordan Plains to be exact po. If time permits po I would love to see your videoke in action po ay mine is nakukulangan ako sa boses po pag nakakabit sa sakura 737 parang may kulang po na di ko alam.
Sige po sir, medyo busy lang din ako lately. Ang problema kasi diyan sir yun mic preamp ng sakura 737 pero yun amp section niyan ok na pang rakrakan. Diba meron din Sakura na meron na built-in mic mixer? Alam ko mern ang kuya ko noon eh, at least sa ganun adjustable lahat para ka na meron mixer. Wala lang efx, echo lang meron at walang send/return connections.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jun 06, 2015 at 09:32 AM
Sa tingin ko feedback is caused when the mic gets or receives the sound coming from the speaker. Kaya di dapat itapat yung mic sa speaker maliban na lang sa mic na may special mechanism na hindi naapektuhan ng sound coming from the speaker, kagaya ng brand na shure na kahit na itapat at ilapit mo sa speaker e walang howling sound. We have that mic in the office pero mahal at 25k daw.
Tama sir, feedback is caused by ambient noise coming from the speakers and is picked up by the mic and amplified again, the whole thing gets worse and worse and worse, it's a form of oscillation.
In the olden days, the cure was to use a 30-band EQ to cut high frequencies that corresponds to the ambient noise that is being picked up by the mic. This is tedious work because the sound tech will have to change settings every time the venue is changed.
Pero now, may feedback destroyer na, digital pa and it seeks and destroys the wannabe feedback signals even before they get through the signal path.
Post by: mars on Jul 14, 2015 at 02:40 PM
This is what I use po...
(https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/46523_4220425221131_672230451_n.jpg?oh=880463d08caed0663cee75f8ec02c7e6&oe=55EA7441)
It has a pad which you can use for low/high output mics, although it has phantom power I never use it since puro dynamic mics lang meron ako. There is a British type 3-band eq for the highs/mids/lows, a British type tone eq is a full-cut type eq where you can change the contour of each band or even fully cut it without varying the adjacent band.
There is also a 100-preset voice processor effects which I use instead of the built-in echo in the videoke player. My videoke player is connected as a line input that goes through a dedicated compressor, minsan kasi hindi pantay-pantay ang accompaniment, meron kanta na malakas ang background meron mahina, the compressor takes care of this.
Hope this helps.
Sir Jojo, I use a Phonic AM240D, almost similar to yours but with only 2 mic sockets. Tanong ko lang kung ano ang usual na ginagamit mong effects for the mics? Sa dami kasi ng effects, nakakalito. I usually use yung No 8 Jazz Club pero kulang sa sibilance. Pag tinaasan naman yung level, dumadami yung echo repetitions. Ang hinahanap ko na effects ay yung parang live singers sa mga bars. Thanks.
Post by: stockHT on Aug 01, 2015 at 03:52 PM
Goal: To setup indoor videoke setup for family use, utilizing existing gears and buying components at a minimal cost that will deliver mid-range-quality :) To be used by my kids ages 3 and 9 and my wife who have an angelic voice.
What I have so far:
Sakura AV200T (not being used)
A-audio 4" Charisma FS (being used as HT Fronts connected to AVR)
A-Audio Genesis BS Gen1 (not being used)
Pioneer 520 (used as main HT avr)
The Purchase Plan
1. Buy TJ40 (or any suggestion of videoke player of the same price range with better quality and ability to upgrade songs?)
2. Buy Behringer XENYX1002 (or Phonic AM240D?)
3. Buy Mic 2pcs (will go for Trident as suggested by boss JojoD)
Planned setup
1. Use AV200T as the main amp
2. TJ40 video out connected to TV
3. TJ40 audio L/R out connected to Mixer 1002
4. Mic connected to Mixer 1002
5. Mixer 1002 connected to AVT200T
6. AVT200T out to A-Audio Charisma FS
The reason why I choose to buy mixer instead of a new 502a amp is because based on what i read here and my little knowledge about audio e mas may gain ako sa sound quality if I buy mixer instead of amp with mic in.
Mga Sir please share your thoughts naman sa plano ko :) requirements gathering phase ako ngayon. Any Pro's and con's? With what I have and what I am planning to buy, may mas EFFICIENT ba na setup?
Post by: markcrenz on Aug 01, 2015 at 09:42 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Aug 12, 2015 at 02:03 PM
Sir Jojo, I use a Phonic AM240D, almost similar to yours but with only 2 mic sockets. Tanong ko lang kung ano ang usual na ginagamit mong effects for the mics? Sa dami kasi ng effects, nakakalito. I usually use yung No 8 Jazz Club pero kulang sa sibilance. Pag tinaasan naman yung level, dumadami yung echo repetitions. Ang hinahanap ko na effects ay yung parang live singers sa mga bars. Thanks.
So sorry, tagal ba pala nito. ;D
Plate reverb lang po, mild settings lang just to give the vocals to seem to sound from a large hall, liit lang kasi house namin and it does help a lot.
Post by: wenc yrich on Aug 24, 2015 at 08:16 PM
(http://www.behringer.com/assets/DSP1124P_banner.jpg)Sir Markcrenz available ba to sa local AV shop?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 25, 2015 at 07:38 AM
Sir Markcrenz available ba to sa local AV shop?
Sa mga pro audio shops. Taga saan ka?
Post by: wenc yrich on Aug 25, 2015 at 05:48 PM
Sa mga pro audio shops. Taga saan ka?Maasin City, Southern Leyte Sir Nelson
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 25, 2015 at 06:08 PM
Maasin City, Southern Leyte Sir Nelson
Ang layo! You can try channel.com.ph. brick and mortar sila pero they do shipping din. Ask for discount. Most of them know me naman.
Post by: wenc yrich on Aug 26, 2015 at 10:57 AM
Ang layo! You can try channel.com.ph. brick and mortar sila pero they do shipping din. Ask for discount. Most of them know me naman.Thank you very much Sir Nelson!
Post by: mars on Nov 11, 2015 at 10:41 AM
So sorry, tagal ba pala nito. ;D
Plate reverb lang po, mild settings lang just to give the vocals to seem to sound from a large hall, liit lang kasi house namin and it does help a lot.
Thanks sir.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2015 at 11:31 PM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 31, 2015 at 08:29 PM
Post by: snobol68 on Jan 01, 2016 at 05:37 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2016 at 02:12 AM
Most of you guys use your videoke players (platinum, hyundai, kumyoung, etc.) as you mic mixers na diba? I mean, you plug your mics directly to your players and just use the mic vol and echo adjustments?
The reason I ask is I found that there are tracks that are sometimes too loud and some are too weak, but I find that compressing the vocals more beneficial than compressing the mix down itself. Although the latter also provides a "cleaner" overall mix.
I interviewed a couple of guys running a videoke rental business, in their experience the first ones to go talaga are the tweeters, kaya some of their machines daw talaga basag ang tunog. Natawa ako nun sabi pag lasing na wala na basag ang tunog hahaha.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 03, 2016 at 02:32 PM
Need ko lang talaga ng limiter pag dvd player ang gamit lalo yung may 150 songs kasi iba ibang albums ang pinanggalingan.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2016 at 06:01 PM
Oh well, dun muna tayo sa nakararami... sana lang wag ulit ma side track. :P
Post by: praktikal on Jan 03, 2016 at 06:50 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 03, 2016 at 07:28 PM
Sarap ng kantahan nun Dec 31 and Jan 1, which also got me trying some ideas and breadboard prototypes.
Most of you guys use your videoke players (platinum, hyundai, kumyoung, etc.) as you mic mixers na diba? I mean, you plug your mics directly to your players and just use the mic vol and echo adjustments?
The reason I ask is I found that there are tracks that are sometimes too loud and some are too weak, but I find that compressing the vocals more beneficial than compressing the mix down itself. Although the latter also provides a "cleaner" overall mix.
I interviewed a couple of guys running a videoke rental business, in their experience the first ones to go talaga are the tweeters, kaya some of their machines daw talaga basag ang tunog. Natawa ako nun sabi pag lasing na wala na basag ang tunog hahaha.
This is what I do brader, i was thinking of buying a new videoke kase yung akn nabili ko ng 12k before pero ang mahal naman pala ng chips 3.3k uso pa ba yung vivaus o marami ng magandang alternative?
Post by: praktikal on Jan 03, 2016 at 07:43 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2016 at 10:23 PM
This is what I do brader, i was thinking of buying a new videoke kase yung akn nabili ko ng 12k before pero ang mahal naman pala ng chips 3.3k uso pa ba yung vivaus o marami ng magandang alternative?
Same pala tayo ng naging predicament brader, yun una ko player 12K din kaso vcd pa, ang mga lekat hindi na nag update ng vcd kasi dvd na yun lumabas kaya napilitan ako mag upgrade. Madami na din player ngayon, although hindi na ako updated sa kung ano ang mga magaganda. Nag platinum ako kasi yun madalas nasa mga machines so naisip ko siguro hindi matitigil ang updates. So far naman sulit na.
Mas sulit pag nadidinig ko kumakanta mga anak ko. Kahit minsan wala sa ayos, ok lang. Walang basagan ng trip diba. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 03, 2016 at 11:35 PM
Same pala tayo ng naging predicament brader, yun una ko player 12K din kaso vcd pa, ang mga lekat hindi na nag update ng vcd kasi dvd na yun lumabas kaya napilitan ako mag upgrade. Madami na din player ngayon, although hindi na ako updated sa kung ano ang mga magaganda. Nag platinum ako kasi yun madalas nasa mga machines so naisip ko siguro hindi matitigil ang updates. So far naman sulit na.
Mas sulit pag nadidinig ko kumakanta mga anak ko. Kahit minsan wala sa ayos, ok lang. Walang basagan ng trip diba. ;D ;D ;D
Platinum din sana gusto for sa,e reason, yung mga for rent na videoke halos sibakin ng gumagamit pero nasisira na lahat, yung videoke mismo matibay pa din kaya lang nakakhinayang naman mag palit kaya ito na muna tutal naman naka bili na ako ng bagong chip nung tuesday 6 months to pay naman, may usb post sya kaya iniisip ko baka pwede mag dl sa site na sinabi nung promodizer at yun gamitin, pareho tayo, kunswelo yung mga ank ko pag kumakanta, swerte na,an brader at talagang medyo pang laban yung dalawa sa kantahan. Isang nakakagulAt brader si martin aka stickfigther, hanep kumanat ang galing parang si bamboo
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2016 at 11:42 PM
Platinum din sana gusto for sa,e reason, yung mga for rent na videoke halos sibakin ng gumagamit pero nasisira na lahat, yung videoke mismo matibay pa din kaya lang nakakhinayang naman mag palit kaya ito na muna tutal naman naka bili na ako ng bagong chip nung tuesday 6 months to pay naman, may usb post sya kaya iniisip ko baka pwede mag dl sa site na sinabi nung promodizer at yun gamitin, pareho tayo, kunswelo yung mga ank ko pag kumakanta, swerte na,an brader at talagang medyo pang laban yung dalawa sa kantahan. Isang nakakagulAt brader si martin aka stickfigther, hanep kumanat ang galing parang si bamboo
oo brader "music to my ears" pag sila kumakanta eh hahaha! kaya nga pinagpundar ko ng mixer at ibang mga gamit para maayos ayos naman pag praktisan nila. kaya lang pag sa iba na ayaw kumanta, pangit daw ng tunog hahaha!
talaga? aba may tinatago pala talento ah! set na yan para madinig natin hehehe...
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 04, 2016 at 12:57 AM
Post by: TinkerTailor on Jan 04, 2016 at 09:36 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 04, 2016 at 10:09 AM
Another option pala aside from ipad is smart tv para malaki kasi ako ang idea ko of using ipad e para ang singer sya lang ang nakakakita ng lyrics sa harapan ng audience para naman nasa kanya ang focus. Ipad stand, high chair/bar stool at konting lighting effects, feeling songers na ang barkada hehe...
Kailangan ba lagi may wifi pag ganito ang videoke source? Pasensiya na baka stupid question ang dating but I want to know lang...
Post by: praktikal on Jan 04, 2016 at 04:45 PM
Kailangan ba lagi may wifi pag ganito ang videoke source? Pasensiya na baka stupid question ang dating but I want to know lang...
yup master J. better kung laptop para marami ang pwedeng i-save sa hdd para kahit offline tuloy ang kantahan. buti na lang at medyo maganda ang signal at bihirang nauudlot ang kanta. yun lang ang hassle kung mabagal ang internet otherwise, oks na oks. libre pa.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 04, 2016 at 06:06 PM
yup master J. better kung laptop para marami ang pwedeng i-save sa hdd para kahit offline tuloy ang kantahan. buti na lang at medyo maganda ang signal at bihirang nauudlot ang kanta. yun lang ang hassle kung mabagal ang internet otherwise, oks na oks. libre pa.
Baka pwede download yun ka Noli? As mp4 or avi? Para kahit wala wifi pwede diba. Then pwede na windows media player ano? Para may playlist... mukhang ok yan ah... baka ito na dahilan para mag Raspberry PI tayo - para sa mga adik sa kantahan... ;D
Post by: praktikal on Jan 04, 2016 at 06:37 PM
Baka pwede download yun ka Noli? As mp4 or avi? Para kahit wala wifi pwede diba. Then pwede na windows media player ano? Para may playlist... mukhang ok yan ah... baka ito na dahilan para mag Raspberry PI tayo - para sa mga adik sa kantahan... ;D
di ko lang na compare pa ang sq at size ng saved to mp4 o avi. maganda nga din ang save mo kasi may mga previous songs na di na available. mag try nga ako mag save using laptop...
good thing lang kung naka wifi kasi ang daming choices.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 04, 2016 at 07:16 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 04, 2016 at 07:40 PM
download mo na padala ako hard drive diyan hahaha
Post by: praktikal on Jan 04, 2016 at 08:25 PM
nakakahiya speed dito sa Bae :(
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 04, 2016 at 11:00 PM
Sarap sana mag videoke eb. 8)
yan ang maganda para maiba naman
Post by: jo_buen88 on Jan 05, 2016 at 12:15 AM
plan ko po mag set up ng videoke... okay na po ba yung list below?
Amp - SAKURA AV 5023 (5.5k ang sabi sa Ohms Binan). May Yamaha DSP A1 ako pansamantala :)
Speakers - Crown or any suggestion (any idea sa price)
Mic Mixer - any suggestion ,yung nasisiyahan na ang kakanta s'yempre (abot ba 10k ang mixer ?)
Mic = SM 58 meron na ako
Player- May HDT 98 ako kaso nag tanung ako ng cd kanina eh wala na daw available?matagal na sa akin ito kaso matagal ko ng di ginagamit he he ,,test ko kahapon eh okay pa rin.
Using a laptop as source ,sa You Tube may mga original music for every artist na with out vocals ,anu ba ang sound quality nito sa may mga set up na.Maganda kasi ang tunog nya sa head phone eh :)
Sino na ba naka try? please share..thanks!
Yung 3rd channel na nabasa ko dito sa discussion ,saan ba i connect yun kung sakali.. :)
thanks! :)
Post by: praktikal on Jan 05, 2016 at 01:01 AM
Mga Guru,
plan ko po mag set up ng videoke... okay na po ba yung list below?
Amp - SAKURA AV 5023 (5.5k ang sabi sa Ohms Binan). May Yamaha DSP A1 ako pansamantala :)
Speakers - Crown or any suggestion (any idea sa price)
Mic Mixer - any suggestion ,yung nasisiyahan na ang kakanta s'yempre (abot ba 10k ang mixer ?)
Mic = SM 58 meron na ako
Player- May HDT 98 ako kaso nag tanung ako ng cd kanina eh wala na daw available?matagal na sa akin ito kaso matagal ko ng di ginagamit he he ,,test ko kahapon eh okay pa rin.
Using a laptop as source ,sa You Tube may mga original music for every artist na with out vocals ,anu ba ang sound quality nito sa may mga set up na.Maganda kasi ang tunog nya sa head phone eh :)
Sino na ba naka try? please share..thanks!
Yung 3rd channel na nabasa ko dito sa discussion ,saan ba i connect yun kung sakali.. :)
thanks! :)
first of all hindi ako guru, gusto ko lang mag share... ;)
ang setup ko:
- mic - wharfedale pro and audio technica
- amp/mixer - sakura 733 (4 speaker input)
- speakers - 1 pc aaudio fs (weird no? hehe), 1 pair china-made unknown fs and 1 sub
- players/monitor - ipad and/or 8" nextbase portable dvd player
- PAR18 led lights, etc para sa added fun (ang isang spot light led head lamp at ang isan naman ginamitan ko ng lata ng gatas as casing. hopefully makapasyal uli sa Raon para makaiskor ng affordable lights)
maganda kasi para sa akin na ang focus ng audience nasa singer than sa monitor.
maganda yung pang karaoke na fs ni anthony (12k), na audition ko na. ang lakas at no need for a sub kung pang indoor. instead of crown o konzert karaspeakers, mag daiichi ka na lang kasi sya lang ang gumagamit ng x-over (sabi nila) at lifetime warranty pa.
need ko pa iimprove ang lighting tsaka tyaga muna sa ordinaryong high stool :( though as it is pwede na...
(http://i68.tinypic.com/i4jsw6.jpg)
konting ehersisyo muna ng leeg hehehe... O0
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 05, 2016 at 08:07 AM
paki linaw naman yun 4 speaker input ng AV-733? ;D
first of all hindi ako guru, gusto ko lang mag share... ;)
ang setup ko:
- amp/mixer - sakura 733 (4 speaker input)
Post by: praktikal on Jan 05, 2016 at 08:37 AM
nice! parang club lang ah!kiss muna... :P
paki linaw naman yun 4 speaker input ng AV-733? ;D
kasi i IN mo muna ang speaker wires sa amp saka sya mag OUT sa speakers... nyeahaha... palusot pa more! >:D
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 05, 2016 at 09:50 AM
kiss muna... :P
kasi i IN mo muna ang speaker wires sa amp saka sya mag OUT sa speakers... nyeahaha... palusot pa more! >:D
hahaha sabi ko na eh! typo na lang para lusot na! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: jo_buen88 on Jan 05, 2016 at 01:07 PM
yung sa ipad wi fi connect ba?... sa next base ilang songs ba meron sa mga nabibiling dvd?
nasa baol pa ung Pioneer DV-533k ko pwede pa siguro yun :) :)
Post by: praktikal on Jan 05, 2016 at 01:57 PM
Sir Praktikal
yung sa ipad wi fi connect ba?... sa next base ilang songs ba meron sa mga nabibiling dvd?
nasa baol pa ung Pioneer DV-533k ko pwede pa siguro yun :) :)
yes, wifi. yung mga nabili ko dating naka sale @ 199 nasa 150 songs kaso di ko lang sure kung marami pang nasa stores. ever since nag switch ako sa "wifi-base" songs bihira ko na gamitin ang dvd unless mabagal anag net. then again, pwede mo naman i-save ang mga songs sa youtube para kahit offline tuloy ang kantahan at walang worries sa buffering.
Post by: jo_buen88 on Jan 05, 2016 at 06:34 PM
Mga Bro,
Saan mas mura ang mic/line mixer? I will be looking for Behringer Xenyx 1202fx or Phonic AM240D...
Taga Sta Rosa Laguna ako...Meron ba nito sa Raon? Alin store mas reliable?
Appreciate any opinion/feedback of these mixers? This will be the first time na gagamit ako ng mixer kasi :) :)
Thanks
Post by: praktikal on Jan 05, 2016 at 07:36 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 06, 2016 at 10:25 PM
Sir Praktikal salamat sa response and inputs mo... :)
Mga Bro,
Saan mas mura ang mic/line mixer? I will be looking for Behringer Xenyx 1202fx or Phonic AM240D...
Taga Sta Rosa Laguna ako...Meron ba nito sa Raon? Alin store mas reliable?
Appreciate any opinion/feedback of these mixers? This will be the first time na gagamit ako ng mixer kasi :) :)
Thanks
I am looking for the same mixer, waiting for feedback for jojod,
regarding your HDT 98, swerte ka at buo pa yung akin ayaw ng mag read ng discs kung kelna pa naman ako nakabili ng bagong disc, sa megamall ako nakabili before sa Listening Room but I doubt kung meron pa matagal na kase eh.
Im using WOW Premium videoke and WOW Premium mic(comes with the videoke) and Xenon mic. Amplifier is Targa and speakers are US Audio(gawa din ng Daichi). WOW Premium has 3,000 plus songs tapos you can buy chips para updated ang songs medyo pricey lang. Isang magandang videoke na pinag uusapan dati yung Vivaus don't know kung meron pang ganun ngayon.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 07, 2016 at 11:01 PM
I am looking for the same mixer, waiting for feedback for jojod,
regarding your HDT 98, swerte ka at buo pa yung akin ayaw ng mag read ng discs kung kelna pa naman ako nakabili ng bagong disc, sa megamall ako nakabili before sa Listening Room but I doubt kung meron pa matagal na kase eh.
Im using WOW Premium videoke and WOW Premium mic(comes with the videoke) and Xenon mic. Amplifier is Targa and speakers are US Audio(gawa din ng Daichi). WOW Premium has 3,000 plus songs tapos you can buy chips para updated ang songs medyo pricey lang. Isang magandang videoke na pinag uusapan dati yung Vivaus don't know kung meron pang ganun ngayon.
Wala na sir. Singcus Pro ang pinalit.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 08, 2016 at 12:45 AM
Post by: bongchillog on Jan 08, 2016 at 02:36 AM
Ano bang mas ok na amp?
Sakura or konZert?
Parang ang dami kasing pindutan ng sakura
Mukhang mas ok ang konzert.
Yong speaker na dai ichi nakakita na ako sa raon.
Mostly sa loob lang ng living room gagamitin.
Ok na ba yong 10inch? Or 12 inch?
4500 pair ang 10 inch 6k pair ata ang 12inch
Ano bang magandang brand ng mic?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 08, 2016 at 07:43 AM
found the source for Phonic AM240D, its Listening Room in Megamall.
Sa isang dealer ko sir, may Phonic din. Mackie medjo ok din.
Post by: jo_buen88 on Jan 08, 2016 at 01:26 PM
(http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq214/rxv800/IMG_2514_zpsskdqwpqq.jpg) (http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rxv800/media/IMG_2514_zpsskdqwpqq.jpg.html)
here's the connection na itinuro nung sales lady sa akin , tumunog naman... :) LAPTOP small earphone jack to double RCA using an adaptor (jack).
Question: may iba pa bang connection na pwedeng gawin from laptop to mixer?
(http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq214/rxv800/IMG_2518_zpsxvbskqpm.jpg) (http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rxv800/media/IMG_2518_zpsxvbskqpm.jpg.html)
Next Plan: Daichi Speakers 12" - 6200 ; speaker tripod 1300/pair
Post by: markcrenz on Jan 08, 2016 at 06:07 PM
And I suggest XLR to XLR mic cables na, or properly wired XLR to balanced TRS plug to maximize noise reduction.
Post by: gunslinger on Jan 08, 2016 at 06:57 PM
Post by: gunslinger on Jan 08, 2016 at 06:57 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 08, 2016 at 07:00 PM
Sa isang dealer ko sir, may Phonic din. Mackie medjo ok din.
how much phonic am240d?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 08, 2016 at 07:05 PM
Pwede ba old marantz amp ang gamitin as amp for the videoke? Meron kasi ako dito and sparingly used na siya. Would I need a mixer as well? And how many speakers should be used? 6.1 kasi pwede dun sa amp but not really sure if its all needed since normally 2.1 lang naman ang gamit when it comes to music.
yung set up ko ngayon amp na Targa lang at wala pang mixer, ok naman, na enganyo lang ako sa mixer kase sabi ni brader jojod eh gumaganda daw boses, baka yun ang pag asa ko para gumanda ang pagkanta ko hehehe
Post by: gunslinger on Jan 08, 2016 at 07:08 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 08, 2016 at 08:23 PM
how much phonic am240d?
Yan ang hindi ko alam. Ito ang website nila:
http://channel.com.ph/
Post by: jo_buen88 on Jan 08, 2016 at 09:20 PM
Yan ang hindi ko alam. Ito ang website nila:
http://channel.com.ph/
Phonic AM440D ang hinahanap ko yesterday pero walang available.. 6.5k ang presyo sa akin,,di na lang kasi ako nag ka interes pa mag libot kasi iniiwasan ko nga ma traffic...anyway traffic pa din.
according sa salesman na nag assist din sa akin sa demo eh mas madali ang parts and service ng Phonic ,hawak kasi sya ng Pioneer... Behringer is yung Store na binilhan mo ang magpapa service sa Behringer kaya maaring it will take time ang repair kung sakali... :(
Post by: jo_buen88 on Jan 08, 2016 at 09:42 PM
Sa ch 3 nakakabit laptop? Baka L channel lang napoprocess nyan, or may cancellation sa L & R signals. Dapat sa line input 5/6, 7/8, etc para siguradong stereo.
And I suggest XLR to XLR mic cables na, or properly wired XLR to balanced TRS plug to maximize noise reduction.
Bro Markcrenz
yap any duon sa 1/2/3/4 channel... Mono nga ang pakinig ko eh :) :) yun lang matitimpla mo using the 3EQ..
i tried kanina sa 11/12 pero ang control mu lang sa kanya eh yung master volume ng mixer aside dun wala na ,wouldn't be the same kung sa 5/6 or 7/8 ko i connect?
baka kailangan ko bumili ng stereo jack ah? yun ba yung may 2 or 3 black stripes? :) or dalawang jack para saa L & R kung ikakabit ko sa line input 5/6..
yap bro i'll take your suggestion ,bibili ako ng XLR to XLR cable for Mic. Bro baka maturuan mo ko sa above question ko :) :) thanks
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 08, 2016 at 09:58 PM
Nice to hear from you bro tirso. Let's take advantage of the technology. Hehe I found out kasi that my kids enjoyed the videoke that was rented in one of the parties they attended kaya tinatanong ako if i could setup one sa haus.
we bond better sa bahay doing videoke than watching the HT. I don't see any reason why your gears will not work for this, baka nga mas maganda pa ang tunog. time to exercise the vocal chords hahaha
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 08, 2016 at 10:00 PM
Yan ang hindi ko alam. Ito ang website nila:
http://channel.com.ph/
salamat brader nelson
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 08, 2016 at 11:01 PM
Bro Markcrenz
yap any duon sa 1/2/3/4 channel... Mono nga ang pakinig ko eh :) :) yun lang matitimpla mo using the 3EQ..
i tried kanina sa 11/12 pero ang control mu lang sa kanya eh yung master volume ng mixer aside dun wala na ,wouldn't be the same kung sa 5/6 or 7/8 ko i connect?
baka kailangan ko bumili ng stereo jack ah? yun ba yung may 2 or 3 black stripes? :) or dalawang jack para saa L & R kung ikakabit ko sa line input 5/6..
yap bro i'll take your suggestion ,bibili ako ng XLR to XLR cable for Mic. Bro baka maturuan mo ko sa above question ko :) :) thanks
don't burden yourself with balanced connection, using the TRS (in unbalanced connection) is ok, walang difference sa XLR yan. pareho naman silang balanced kung gugustuhin mo (or unbalanced). actually kung familiar ka sa internal design ng mixers makikita mo na iisa lang naman din pupuntahan circuit niyan, different input connector lang!
kung mahigit bente metros na siguro ang wire mo tsaka ka mag isip mag balanced connection, noise reduction won't even be evident at that lengths. mas maingay pa yun kakanta kaysa sa noise ng system sir.
tsaka unbalanced lang naman connection ng mic na gagamitin mo so useless mag XLR diyan unless your mic/line supports it. if ever that's the case, go one step further and mag phantom power ka na.
kung trip mo naka 3-EQ ang line source, make it twice para two channels. pero I do not suggest doing that, sa line input ka lang maglagay ng laptop mo (input 5/6?) so you don't accidentally overdrive the input.
EDIT: congrats on your new mixer sir, more priceless moments with the family yan.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 08, 2016 at 11:06 PM
yung set up ko ngayon amp na Targa lang at wala pang mixer, ok naman, na enganyo lang ako sa mixer kase sabi ni brader jojod eh gumaganda daw boses, baka yun ang pag asa ko para gumanda ang pagkanta ko hehehe
ehem, brader kahit anong galing ng mixer mo pag di talaga abot ang nota o madalas pumiyok eh wala na magawa yun ha... bawi na lang sa family bonding... ;D
disclaimer lang para walang sisihan hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 09, 2016 at 01:13 AM
ehem, brader kahit anong galing ng mixer mo pag di talaga abot ang nota o madalas pumiyok eh wala na magawa yun ha... bawi na lang sa family bonding... ;D
disclaimer lang para walang sisihan hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
huh??? eh hindi na ako mag mixer pag ganyan, yung amp na lang din gagamitin ko hehehe
mahal na din pala mga amps na konzert, promac xpro ngayon, yung akin eh 3.5k ko lang nabili dati ngayon mga 5.5k na pala and above.
na check ko din sa FB yung singcus pro na binaggit ni brader nelson, ok pala yun kase every month nag post sa FB nag update ng songs.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 09, 2016 at 02:14 AM
ma appreciate mo yan especially yun efx. di hamak na malayo sa stock echo ng mga players and amps... meron din naman ok pero minsan sobrang sama na akala mo nasa loob ng drum yun kumakanta ;D
Post by: pekspert on Jan 09, 2016 at 06:34 AM
pwede din usb to rca if you have the cable
here's the connection na itinuro nung sales lady sa akin , tumunog naman... :) LAPTOP small earphone jack to double RCA using an adaptor (jack).
Question: may iba pa bang connection na pwedeng gawin from laptop to mixer?
Post by: praktikal on Jan 09, 2016 at 09:43 AM
sa experience ko (at patuloy pa sa pag experiment) maganda pa din kung naka 2.1 ka but dapat wag sapaw ang sub. kumbaga sa sawsawan e, konting kagat anghang la-ang. sakura's av-733 is not bad at all.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 09, 2016 at 12:54 PM
pwede din usb to rca if you have the cable
pano ito sir? may DAC ba yun cable?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 09, 2016 at 08:13 PM
ok lang yun brader, hindi baleng wala sa nota, o pumipiyok pa basta walang excessive distortion at noise.
ma appreciate mo yan especially yun efx. di hamak na malayo sa stock echo ng mga players and amps... meron din naman ok pero minsan sobrang sama na akala mo nasa loob ng drum yun kumakanta ;D
Pag nakaluwag luwag sa schedule papasyalan ko yung phonic at ng ma ipademo,
How about yung mga amp na parang may kixer in one na, is that any good?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 09, 2016 at 08:58 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 10, 2016 at 02:05 AM
Post by: pekspert on Jan 10, 2016 at 07:54 AM
pano ito sir? may DAC ba yun cable?wala sir, plain usb to rca lang.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 10, 2016 at 01:23 PM
Pag nakaluwag luwag sa schedule papasyalan ko yung phonic at ng ma ipademo,
How about yung mga amp na parang may kixer in one na, is that any good?
Pag mag mixer ka wag ka na kuha ng powered mixer, ok na yun separates if you consider getting them separately.
Pero walang masama sa powered mixers ha, ok din sila.
Brder jo i cant seem to see the pics of your set up that you posted sa earlier pages, pwede paki post ulit?
Ay sige hahanapin ko muna brader, nasa lumang laptop pa iyon eh...
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 10, 2016 at 01:26 PM
wala sir, plain usb to rca lang.
hhmmm parang di yata uubra yun sir? since digital lines yun usb tapos analog line level na sa rca diba?
unless meron usb soundcard, o usb dac... or I'm missing something else? :)
Post by: bongchillog on Jan 10, 2016 at 05:12 PM
sapat na ba yon?
Post by: praktikal on Jan 10, 2016 at 08:00 PM
Yong sakura 733 parang may mixer input na ang mic..Yan ang gamit ko. Oks naman pero syempre praktikal ako eh hehe... Importante din ang speakers at room acoustics.
sapat na ba yon?
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 10, 2016 at 08:45 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 10, 2016 at 08:46 PM
Yong sakura 733 parang may mixer input na ang mic..
sapat na ba yon?
Yes sir sapat na po iyon sa pang videoke setup, ganyan gamit namin sa utol ko.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 10, 2016 at 09:17 PM
buti na lang praktikal ka kaya binenta mo ulit yun mixer. >:DO0 >:D
Di ko din naman din kasi ma maximize ang gamit kaya better mapa sa yo para olx este sulit hehe bukod sa meron pa din kasi akong sansui reverv amp bago dumating ang 733.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 10, 2016 at 09:26 PM
Yong sakura 733 parang may mixer input na ang mic..gusto ko rin try itong Sakura 733 na ito eh.
sapat na ba yon?
Post by: ti on Jan 10, 2016 at 09:27 PM
kaso yung daw mga mura na mixer either "peke" yung effects or konti yung dsp effects?
nag iisip din ako na mag mixer .. tama po ba yung hyundai videoke player going sa mixer rca "in" sa rca out naman going sa onkyo avr ko? tama po ba na bukod sa magkakadagdag ng ganda sa vocals effects. may konti din protection ito para sa speaker kasi kaya nito may filter excess sounds same sa feedback at clipping ?
nga pala kaya ako nasa raon ay nagpabili yung bayaw ko ng videoke player. platinum t-40 kapitan yung binili ko p6800 volume 72 na ang kasama. gamit ko naman ay hyundai 98N, sa byenan ko at platinum t40+ . kapitan yung kinuha ko since may android app songbook sila. pero ang bulong sa aking hyundai pro N pa din daw ang mas mabenta sa pangbugbugan.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 11, 2016 at 07:09 PM
O0 >:D
Di ko din naman din kasi ma maximize ang gamit kaya better mapa sa yo para olx este sulit hehe bukod sa meron pa din kasi akong sansui reverv amp bago dumating ang 733.
speaking of reverb, ang alam ko meron din ako niyan eh... mapahanap nga sa bodega yan...
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 11, 2016 at 07:10 PM
gusto ko rin try itong Sakura 733 na ito eh.
ok siya, powered mixer na sir. pero kung may current setup ka na pwedeng wala na din naman.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 11, 2016 at 07:29 PM
mga bossing, kanina nag ikot ikot ako sa raon para makakuha ng first hand info. kaso mailap yung phonic, ang common ay yung trident at mga china na nag rarange sa 3500-5500. ang explanation sa akin yung mga kasama na usb input ay parang player na daw kaya may katabi na botton nga next play back.
tama po parang may built-in mp3 player ka na pag may usb option, pero kailangan mo ba talaga noon? I mean, kung pang videoke po eh useless feature yun para sa atin.
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kaso yung daw mga mura na mixer either "peke" yung effects or konti yung dsp effects?
madami hawsyaw na mixer sa raon, kung ano-ano naka label pero ayun pala "group" efx. ibig sabihin nakalista yun reverb 20 naka-print na label pero you can only select 1. ;D loko-loko ano?
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nag iisip din ako na mag mixer .. tama po ba yung hyundai videoke player going sa mixer rca "in" sa rca out naman going sa onkyo avr ko?
tama po. minsan hindi RCA jack ang line inputs, kadalasan ay phone jack which accepts 1/4" phone plug. kasi pwede ka mag balanced connection (using TRS, tip-ring-sleeve) or unbalanced connection (using TS, tip-sleeve) kung gusto mo pero I suggest na mag unbalanced ka lang unless pagkalayo-layo ng interconnects mo. useless din naman mag balanced kung ilan metro lang ang layo ng ICs.
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tama po ba na bukod sa magkakadagdag ng ganda sa vocals effects.
tama po na makakadagdag ng ganda (kung maiayos mo ang settings ng tama o naayon sa panlasa mo)...
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may konti din protection ito para sa speaker kasi kaya nito may filter excess sounds same sa feedback at clipping ?
ay mali po sir, wala po kinalaman yun mga filter (tone/EQ), sa feedback at clipping at hindi po ito nakakapagbigay ng protection sa mga speakers.
actively, kailangan pa po ninyo ng gate/compander o feedback destroyer. pero since masyado ma magiging komplikado, maari po ninyo tabasin yun highs dahil doon po kadalasan nag trigger ng feedback. sa clipping naman po siguruhin niyo lang na mag blink lang yun clipping detector sa mixer kahit magsisigaw ka pa sa mic. medyo trial and error po iyan pero tiyak na madadali niyo din naman ang tamang settings.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 11, 2016 at 08:42 PM
Post by: supermanster on Jan 11, 2016 at 08:53 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 11, 2016 at 09:10 PM
malaking bagay itong thread na ito, maraming choices na nalaalaman na mas mura kaya kahit gusto mo mag palit mas mura ang gastusuin.kaya pala pag nag papa quote ako ng gamit sa supplier ng office laging may quote ng mixer malaking bagay pala yun sa set up.
ang cons lang naman sa powered mixer is pag nadedo ang amp section tangay ang mixer mo, and vice versa. pero bago niyo naman siguro masira yan eh sulit na.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 11, 2016 at 09:41 PM
ang cons lang naman sa powered mixer is pag nadedo ang amp section tangay ang mixer mo, and vice versa. pero bago niyo naman siguro masira yan eh sulit na.
Buti na lang tripayb ko lang nabili si 733 8) O0
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 11, 2016 at 09:53 PM
salamat chief! 8)
ok siya, powered mixer na sir. pero kung may current setup ka na pwedeng wala na din naman.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 11, 2016 at 09:56 PM
Buti na lang tripayb ko lang nabili si 733 8) O0brandnew chief?saan nabii? ???
Post by: praktikal on Jan 11, 2016 at 10:18 PM
brandnew chief?saan nabii? ???
slightly used, dati pa. ;) swerte nga e. til now bihira ko pa rin gamitin kasi ako lang naman sa bahay ang trying hard hehe...
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 11, 2016 at 10:30 PM
slightly used, dati pa. ;) swerte nga e. til now bihira ko pa rin gamitin kasi ako lang naman sa bahay ang trying hard hehe...swerte nga..congrats! ;)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 11, 2016 at 10:50 PM
malaking bagay itong thread na ito, maraming choices na nalaalaman na mas mura kaya kahit gusto mo mag palit mas mura ang gastusuin.kaya pala pag nag papa quote ako ng gamit sa supplier ng office laging may quote ng mixer malaking bagay pala yun sa set up.
Gusto mo audition ang Kumyoung Singcus dito sa house?
Post by: ti on Jan 11, 2016 at 11:21 PM
speaking of usb ng mixer, may napanood ako sa youtube na behringer yung usb B female port is digital input from pc parang ala external soundcard samantalang yung mga china mixer na nakita ko sa raon is usb port para naman sa usb storage with audio files. hehehe
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 12, 2016 at 12:17 AM
ang cons lang naman sa powered mixer is pag nadedo ang amp section tangay ang mixer mo, and vice versa. pero bago niyo naman siguro masira yan eh sulit na.
6 years na yung Targa amp ko pero yung sayad lang sa volume control ang naging issues so far buhay pa naman
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 12, 2016 at 12:19 AM
Gusto mo audition ang Kumyoung Singcus dito sa house?
ang layo ko na brader, parang 4 years na akong di nagagawi sa area mo sa Tayuman na kase ako eh, mag pm ako kapag magagawi ako dyan.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 12, 2016 at 12:54 AM
salamat chief! 8)
welcome hepe! work with what you already have sir, subukan mo lang sabayan ng iba ibang wine o beer para may coloration... parang tube rolling lang ang effect hahaha... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 12, 2016 at 01:00 AM
salamat po JojoD818 sa clarifications.
welcome po sir.
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speaking of usb ng mixer, may napanood ako sa youtube na behringer yung usb B female port is digital input from pc parang ala external soundcard samantalang yung mga china mixer na nakita ko sa raon is usb port para naman sa usb storage with audio files. hehehe
ay built-in DAC po iyon, there are two kinds actually. one is to stream data from the PC via USB for playback purposes and the other is the other way around which is used for recording mixdowns naman po sa PC.
yun sa raon po eh glorified mp3 player lang siya using USB drives, dati nga meron pa SD card support. kung ano-ano kasi naisip nila ilagay na feature para iba iba ang gimmick.
cheers
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 12, 2016 at 01:02 AM
ang layo ko na brader, parang 4 years na akong di nagagawi sa area mo sa Tayuman na kase ako eh, mag pm ako kapag magagawi ako dyan.
may masarap na tapsilog diyan sa may Bambang brad... ;D
teka baka mapunta na sa pagkain ang usapan... tabi tabi po... :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 12, 2016 at 01:37 AM
may masarap na tapsilog diyan sa may Bambang brad... ;D
teka baka mapunta na sa pagkain ang usapan... tabi tabi po... :D
aba teka, dumaan ka dito at mag window shopping tayo ng amp ng videoke, sabay tutorial na din, alam mo naman yung lungga ko dito pa din sa dati.
Post by: bongchillog on Jan 12, 2016 at 02:00 AM
Yes sir sapat na po iyon sa pang videoke setup, ganyan gamit namin sa utol ko.
Salamat sir jojo? Di ko na ba kailangan ng mixer?
Sayang kasi ang golden voice ni wifey hindi nahahasa.
Yong 10inch na dai ichi pair?
Sapat na rin?
Nid pa ba ng videoke player?
I have smart tv . Smart blu ray
I have harddrive too.
Pwde kaya download nalang sa youtube?
May youtube din both tv and blu ray player.
Pwde online streaming..
Saan ba makakahanap ng original shure na microphone
Sa raon kasi yong shure sm58 450php lang mukhang panget.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 12, 2016 at 02:07 AM
Salamat sir jojo? Di ko na ba kailangan ng mixer?
Sayang kasi ang golden voice ni wifey hindi nahahasa.
Yong 10inch na dai ichi pair?
Sapat na rin?
Nid pa ba ng videoke player?
I have smart tv . Smart blu ray
I have harddrive too.
Pwde kaya download nalang sa youtube?
May youtube din both tv and blu ray player.
Pwde online streaming..
Saan ba makakahanap ng original shure na microphone
Sa raon kasi yong shure sm58 450php lang mukhang panget.
im using a speaker with 6.5 in woofer ok na ok naman at di naman ako nabibitin
Post by: bongchillog on Jan 12, 2016 at 02:18 AM
im using a speaker with 6.5 in woofer ok na ok naman at di naman ako nabibitin
Ok sir
Nag ask ako sa raon ng speaker prices.
Yong dai ichi na 10 inch is only 3800..
Yong parang rectangular na nilalagay nila sa tripod stand though 12inch ang naka display
Merong 10 inch at 8inch din.
I also learned that sakura 733 has the one with usb version..
Meron din palang sakura 735 na 700 watts na.
Konti lang price difference nila.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 12, 2016 at 07:07 AM
I've been using ipad kasi andami naman online, libre pa as long as stable ang net connection. Saving it on a hdd is cool para pwede offline.
Imbes pambili ng player ibili mo na lang ng "compander" lalo't malapit ng gagawa ang isang pogi dyan oh...
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 12, 2016 at 10:36 AM
Salamat sir jojo? Di ko na ba kailangan ng mixer?
Sayang kasi ang golden voice ni wifey hindi nahahasa.
Yong 10inch na dai ichi pair?
Sapat na rin?
Nid pa ba ng videoke player?
I have smart tv . Smart blu ray
I have harddrive too.
Pwde kaya download nalang sa youtube?
May youtube din both tv and blu ray player.
Pwde online streaming..
Saan ba makakahanap ng original shure na microphone
Sa raon kasi yong shure sm58 450php lang mukhang panget.
Yun sir 733 powered mixer na siya sir, ibig sabihin mixer na siya na may amp na po. Si brader Tirso meron nakita na Konzert brand na powered mixer din di ko lang sure kung ano modelo.
Yun sa utol ko 12" na 3-way gawa lang niya. Di ko lang sure kung ano drivers na ginamit. Ok na din, semi open pa yun garahe niya napupuno na din po.
Yun sa videoke player gamit namin yun Platinum T-40+, di ako maalam diyan sa smart TV eh sorry.
Shure local authorized distro po is Audiophile. Sa alam ko Made in Mexico na po mga labas ngayon, wala na Made in USA na SM58. Parang nasa 5K+ po ang original ng SM58 sir. Kung medyo budget at lagi naman nasa raon, you may want to try Trident. Meron silang wired and wireless, if you will consider wireless, go with the UHF types, wag ka mag FM o VHF for better reception.
Post by: bongchillog on Jan 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM
Noted lahat.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 12, 2016 at 09:40 PM
Post by: bongchillog on Jan 13, 2016 at 01:09 AM
733 + 10" daiichi kung wala ka pang existing speaker e pwede na esp kung indoor then later kung bitin add ka sub pero dapat konting kagat lang ng bass.
I've been using ipad kasi andami naman online, libre pa as long as stable ang net connection. Saving it on a hdd is cool para pwede offline.
Imbes pambili ng player ibili mo na lang ng "compander" lalo't malapit ng gagawa ang isang pogi dyan oh...
Hmmm thanks sir.
Will check cheap subs kasi konting kagat lang pala :)
I heard konzert merong powered subs.
But will surely get sakura 733
Priced 4650 and 5000 with usb..
Post by: praktikal on Jan 13, 2016 at 10:35 AM
Post by: edocampo on Jan 13, 2016 at 11:24 AM
733 + 10" daiichi kung wala ka pang existing speaker e pwede na esp kung indoor then later kung bitin add ka sub pero dapat konting kagat lang ng bass.
I've been using ipad kasi andami naman online, libre pa as long as stable ang net connection. Saving it on a hdd is cool para pwede offline.
Imbes pambili ng player ibili mo na lang ng "compander" lalo't malapit ng gagawa ang isang pogi dyan oh...
Hi Sir, saan po pwede magdownload ng mga videoke songs (Anong site po?) How to save sa HDD? thanks po
Post by: praktikal on Jan 13, 2016 at 11:40 AM
Hi Sir, saan po pwede magdownload ng mga videoke songs (Anong site po?) How to save sa HDD? thanks po
napakarami. just type whatever song you like kay pareng google o sa youtube mismo then lagyan mo lang ng karaoke at boom! ayun na. mamili ka na lang kasi minsan pangit ang upload ng iba. sa pag DL naman ng youtube, singitan mo lang ng ss between period and y of youtube then enter. enjoy! ;)
ex. https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=wGP1Sx5oMGQ
Post by: zyverjack on Jan 13, 2016 at 12:01 PM
..
Imbes pambili ng player ibili mo na lang ng "compander" lalo't malapit ng gagawa ang isang pogi dyan oh...
Really grateful for this wonderful thread and all the valuable inputs from the gurus. Videoke hobbyist on the side with my TJM 304P player (bought 2nd hand) plus Konzert 502B (with USB, imitation daw, huhu) set-up. My kids are enjoying it too kaya...
Sir JojoD, papila na rin sa "compander"...
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 13, 2016 at 05:08 PM
Imbes pambili ng player ibili mo na lang ng "compander" lalo't malapit ng gagawa ang isang pogi dyan oh...
ehem ako ba yun? O0
buti na lang bago shave at gupit buhok ko... >:D
Post by: praktikal on Jan 13, 2016 at 05:37 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 13, 2016 at 05:39 PM
SWITSWEW!!!
pinapahaba ko sana kamukha ng beard ni brader Martin kaso di bagay nagmukha ako Santa Claus! >:D
oh alas singko na! kantahan na! ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 14, 2016 at 12:57 AM
pinapahaba ko sana kamukha ng beard ni brader Martin kaso di bagay nagmukha ako Santa Claus! >:D
oh alas singko na! kantahan na! ;D
may limang songs na ako sa playlist ko, yung mga kinanta ni Mang Dominador sa Tawag ng Tanghalan sa Showtime.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 14, 2016 at 09:34 AM
Yan ang tagal kong hinanap, wala sa dvd at ibang players pero meron online...
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 14, 2016 at 10:09 AM
para may repository tayo ng links...
Post by: praktikal on Jan 14, 2016 at 12:20 PM
Post by: ti on Jan 16, 2016 at 06:37 PM
P 5,500 daw po sa MegaMall
oks po ba ito
Post by: edocampo on Jan 17, 2016 at 09:10 AM
napakarami. just type whatever song you like kay pareng google o sa youtube mismo then lagyan mo lang ng karaoke at boom! ayun na. mamili ka na lang kasi minsan pangit ang upload ng iba. sa pag DL naman ng youtube, singitan mo lang ng ss between period and y of youtube then enter. enjoy! ;)
ex. https://www.ssyoutube.com/watch?v=wGP1Sx5oMGQ
Salamat sir, try ko later.
Post by: edocampo on Jan 17, 2016 at 10:09 AM
Really grateful for this wonderful thread and all the valuable inputs from the gurus. Videoke hobbyist on the side with my TJM 304P player (bought 2nd hand) plus Konzert 502B (with USB, imitation daw, huhu) set-up. My kids are enjoying it too kaya...
Sir JojoD, papila na rin sa "compander"...
Sali na din ako sa pila ng "compander"
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 17, 2016 at 07:04 PM
(http://www.phonic.com/images/detailed/0/im_AM240D_front.jpg)
P 5,500 daw po sa MegaMall
oks po ba ito
Pwede na po yan sir. Pero hanggang 2 mics ka lang sir ha. Baka meron 440D kamukha nun sa akin para up to 4 mics. Di na iikot ang mic pag naka upo na, baso na lang ang umiikot. ;)
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 17, 2016 at 07:07 PM
Really grateful for this wonderful thread and all the valuable inputs from the gurus. Videoke hobbyist on the side with my TJM 304P player (bought 2nd hand) plus Konzert 502B (with USB, imitation daw, huhu) set-up. My kids are enjoying it too kaya...
Sir JojoD, papila na rin sa "compander"...
Sali na din ako sa pila ng "compander"
Hala hahaha! Sige mga sirs nasa to-do list na po yan. ;)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 17, 2016 at 07:34 PM
I've been researching and asking questions sa sound technician namin sa church. Instead of using an analog mixer (i really wanted a digital mixer kasi super mahal @ P40k for 4 channel input), he adviced me to get an interface with XLR inputs connected via USB. So after mixing the volume of the mics sa input, app na lang ang mag-mix ng sound and music, then analog output na agad sa amplifier. Pag-aaralan ko na lang kung may latency issues pero sa current technology, medjo wala na daw.
Parang ganito daw yun interface:
(http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/images/recording-guide/zoom-r16-multitrack-recorder-interface-controller-777x119.jpg)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 17, 2016 at 09:46 PM
Pwede na po yan sir. Pero hanggang 2 mics ka lang sir ha. Baka meron 440D kamukha nun sa akin para up to 4 mics. Di na iikot ang mic pag naka upo na, baso na lang ang umiikot. ;)
Brader yung wireless na mic di ba dalawang mic yun tapos saksak lang sa isang mic input? So kung dawalang input tong phonic, kung bibili ka ng dalawang set ng wireless mic pwede na ang apat na mic? O mali yung iniisip ko?
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 17, 2016 at 10:17 PM
Brader yung wireless na mic di ba dalawang mic yun tapos saksak lang sa isang mic input? So kung dawalang input tong phonic, kung bibili ka ng dalawang set ng wireless mic pwede na ang apat na mic? O mali yung iniisip ko?
Yup dalawa nga brader. Tama din pero one adjustment per pair lang brad. Unlike kung separate talaga you can tailor which is which. Pero doable yan naisip mo.
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 17, 2016 at 10:21 PM
@ khoya praktikal:
I've been researching and asking questions sa sound technician namin sa church. Instead of using an analog mixer (i really wanted a digital mixer kasi super mahal @ P40k for 4 channel input), he adviced me to get an interface with XLR inputs connected via USB. So after mixing the volume of the mics sa input, app na lang ang mag-mix ng sound and music, then analog output na agad sa amplifier. Pag-aaralan ko na lang kung may latency issues pero sa current technology, medjo wala na daw.
Parang ganito daw yun interface:
(http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/images/recording-guide/zoom-r16-multitrack-recorder-interface-controller-777x119.jpg)
Ganyan gamit namin sa band rehearsal studio pero pang recording lang. Technically pwede naman sa application na pang videoke. Yun nga lang nagamit ko niyan walang line input, puro mic lang.
Napaisip lang ako sa app, kasi software tawag namin dun.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 18, 2016 at 07:33 AM
Ganyan gamit namin sa band rehearsal studio pero pang recording lang. Technically pwede naman sa application na pang videoke. Yun nga lang nagamit ko niyan walang line input, puro mic lang.
Napaisip lang ako sa app, kasi software tawag namin dun.
Yun na nga. Software. Iniba ko lang espeling. ;D
Post by: wengkapre on Jan 18, 2016 at 11:45 AM
Post by: edocampo on Jan 19, 2016 at 10:40 AM
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff130/magitingnapusakal/b5ef5dd5-cf58-4b93-9077-7f199d9e2ea0_zpsbq5z0bec.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/magitingnapusakal/media/b5ef5dd5-cf58-4b93-9077-7f199d9e2ea0_zpsbq5z0bec.jpg.html)
Post by: praktikal on Jan 19, 2016 at 12:11 PM
parang ganito:
- amp/mixer : konzert 502a
- speaker : dai-ichi 8" or 10" KR-100 ; (pre-owned) 10-12" active sub. kung meron kang speakers ng mga sinaunang component system na hilig bilhin ng mga seaman dati aba'y ayos! gusto ko nga nun sana eh...
- mic : samson Q7
- player (wifi-based) : tablet or smart tv (karamihan sa atin meron alin man sa dalawang yan so no need to buy)
next target:
- "compander"
- shure sm58
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 19, 2016 at 02:01 PM
pwede na po ba ito sir?
(http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff130/magitingnapusakal/b5ef5dd5-cf58-4b93-9077-7f199d9e2ea0_zpsbq5z0bec.jpg) (http://s242.photobucket.com/user/magitingnapusakal/media/b5ef5dd5-cf58-4b93-9077-7f199d9e2ea0_zpsbq5z0bec.jpg.html)
Pwede na.
Still on a hunt for a 4 channel interface. Ang currently avalable is either 2 channel or 8 channel na agad. 8 channel cheapest is P15,000.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 20, 2016 at 08:13 AM
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Post by: jo_buen88 on Feb 02, 2016 at 06:58 PM
chi) , :) anybody here na may alam na binebenta :)
thanks!
Post by: wengkapre on Feb 03, 2016 at 04:04 PM
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Post by: roygee on Feb 15, 2016 at 10:23 AM
anyone here know where to buy the DVD for platinum X5 (platinum karaoke song list 72)
try to contact Nepco at 0917-5408463.. got one from him a few months back
Post by: shoktongxxx on Feb 18, 2016 at 11:25 PM
try to contact Nepco at 0917-5408463.. got one from him a few months backsame pala tayo chief ng pinagkukunan ng update DVD.:)
Post by: mhupix on Apr 04, 2016 at 11:48 AM
Model BF-106
Power 600W
System 3-way
Speaker 5 speaker
Woofer Size 10"
Subwoofer -
Midrange 4" x 2 pcs.
Tweeter 4"
Impedance 8 Ω
Sensitivity 99dB/W/M
Frequency Response 40Hz~20KHz
Dimension (mm) 298 x 520 x 279
http://www.crown.com.ph/products/BF%252d106-.html
Post by: zram18 on Apr 04, 2016 at 12:48 PM
malakas ang Sakura 733, kahit nga apat na de dose kaya, pero kahit dalawang de dose lang na speakers ng Crown, ok na.
pag nilakasan kasi yang 10", garalgal na meaning distorted na ang sound.
Post by: mhupix on Apr 07, 2016 at 06:59 AM
kung pang outdoor ang purpose mo,dapat de dose kunin mo, wag yang 10" lang.
malakas ang Sakura 733, kahit nga apat na de dose kaya, pero kahit dalawang de dose lang na speakers ng Crown, ok na.
pag nilakasan kasi yang 10", garalgal na meaning distorted na ang sound.
Salamat sa input sir!
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 04, 2016 at 05:15 PM
Bought a SAKURA AV5023US - 4,000 and BEHRINGER 1202FX - 7,350 yesterday sa Raon.Grabe traffic because of Nazareno parade...nagmadali na nga ako makabili inabutan pa rin ako ng pag sarado ng Recto/Rizal Ave... :) di ako nakapaglibot kaya di ko alam kung napamahal ako sa Behringer..but anyway nabili ko na eh :) :)
(http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq214/rxv800/IMG_2514_zpsskdqwpqq.jpg) (http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rxv800/media/IMG_2514_zpsskdqwpqq.jpg.html)
here's the connection na itinuro nung sales lady sa akin , tumunog naman... :) LAPTOP small earphone jack to double RCA using an adaptor (jack).
Question: may iba pa bang connection na pwedeng gawin from laptop to mixer?
(http://i449.photobucket.com/albums/qq214/rxv800/IMG_2518_zpsxvbskqpm.jpg) (http://s449.photobucket.com/user/rxv800/media/IMG_2518_zpsxvbskqpm.jpg.html)
Next Plan: Daichi Speakers 12" - 6200 ; speaker tripod 1300/pair
Sir, Anong number ng effects ang gamit mo sa behringer 1202 FX ang gamit mo po? wala po kasing table of effects na kasama eh. range lang po ang nakalagay. Is there a site where I can download the list of effects for this mixer? Any assistance po is much appreciated.
Post by: bongchillog on Oct 04, 2016 at 06:30 PM
na dedelay na ng delay ang videoke setup ko para kay misis
Post by: mhacman on Oct 04, 2016 at 07:16 PM
at dahil praktikal (o barat din) ako, I might mimic sir praktikal's way of doings.
i've been collecting and DL-ing music videos from YT and several years back, have also checked there karaoke videos. so I might need a list of songs the whole family wants and DL them one by one =)) hope they'd be all available....
so next would be:
- shure PM mics
- mic mixer, perhaps
or as I've read here: sir jojo's "compander"? looking forward for it come come out hehe
what I currently have is HT AVR too and a recently unused pair JBL N24 + small sub.
until I have started collecting a number of YT karaoke videos and while without mics and a mixer, I'll play it via smart phone and sing inside the bathroom muna.. ;D
Post by: TinkerTailor on Oct 04, 2016 at 08:12 PM
Post by: praktikal on Oct 04, 2016 at 09:38 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 04, 2016 at 10:23 PM
mas ok ba ang Sakura Av-5023us keysa sa Sakura 733?parehas lang yan mas malakas lang or capable yung 733..HTH..:)
na dedelay na ng delay ang videoke setup ko para kay misis
Post by: bongchillog on Oct 04, 2016 at 10:48 PM
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Post by: jnazareta on Oct 04, 2016 at 11:23 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 05, 2016 at 07:02 PM
Hi fellow Pdvd members, Any advice on where I can download a PDF file for the list of effects available para sa behringer 1202FX as there was none included sa package. All I have is the range of effects that shows on the device itself. As of now I use number 22 which works but still I need advice on what are the effects applicable for Videoke. Another question is can I connect my Pioneer AVR to my mixer so it can only output sa sounds and not the vocals coming from the mic. My set up right now is from Platinum X-5 player I have an RCA splitter. 1 goes directly to my Pioneer AVR and the other splitter goes into the Behringer mixer. the main output of the mixer then goes to my Sakura 733 amplifier where the vocals and sounds comes out. I want to get rid of the splitter but as I was told by the store where I purchase the mixer, vocals will also but sent to my pioneer avr if I hook it to the CD/Tape out or control room out. Any suggestion is much appreciated.Re effects. IMHO, kanya kanyang proprietary names din minsan ang tawag nila sa effects. Best if you could listen to them 1 by 1 talaga ang choose.
Re pioneer AVR thing, why would you still use the AVR kung sound only ang palalabasin mo? Why not connect the source directly to the mixer?
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Post by: jnazareta on Oct 05, 2016 at 11:28 PM
Re effects. IMHO, kanya kanyang proprietary names din minsan ang tawag nila sa effects. Best if you could listen to them 1 by 1 talaga ang choose.
Re pioneer AVR thing, why would you still use the AVR kung sound only ang palalabasin mo? Why not connect the source directly to the mixer?
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Hi Sir Nelson,
I use the Pioneer AVR for 2 things. first I upscaled the video source from 480p to 1080p casting to my PJ via HDMI. Secondly po I use the external stereo audio sa Pioneer AVR para po lahat ng speakers ay may sound. I don't want the vocals to through the speakers conneted to the Pioneer receiver as sometimes feedback from the mic can cause issues with the speakers. I'm not sure if kayang walang vocals na lalabas sa pioneer AVR if I hook it to the mixer. I want only the sounds from the source to be played sa Pioneer AVR while the vocals and sounds plays on the sakura 733.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 06, 2016 at 05:11 AM
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Post by: jnazareta on Oct 06, 2016 at 05:44 AM
Ah gets ko na. Yeah. You can plug your mic sa mixer instead. Ganyan din ang setup ko although I use my pioneer receiver for all amplifications
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So sir Nelson there is no way na I can filter only the sounds from the mixer when I hook up my Pioneer receiver to it? Like what you've said the mic is currently connected to the mixer.
Post by: Cy on Oct 06, 2016 at 08:49 AM
Hi fellow Pdvd members, Any advice on where I can download a PDF file for the list of effects available para sa behringer 1202FX as there was none included sa package. All I have is the range of effects that shows on the device itself. As of now I use number 22 which works but still I need advice on what are the effects applicable for Videoke. Another question is can I connect my Pioneer AVR to my mixer so it can only output sa sounds and not the vocals coming from the mic. My set up right now is from Platinum X-5 player I have an RCA splitter. 1 goes directly to my Pioneer AVR and the other splitter goes into the Behringer mixer. the main output of the mixer then goes to my Sakura 733 amplifier where the vocals and sounds comes out. I want to get rid of the splitter but as I was told by the store where I purchase the mixer, vocals will also but sent to my pioneer avr if I hook it to the CD/Tape out or control room out. Any suggestion is much appreciated.
Sir, for the preset fx, try this link; https://images.static-thomann.de/pics/atg/atgdata/document/misc/191257_presets.pdf
Regards
Post by: praktikal on Oct 06, 2016 at 09:39 AM
Hi fellow Pdvd members, Any advice on where I can download a PDF file for the list of effects available para sa behringer 1202FX as there was none included sa package. All I have is the range of effects that shows on the device itself. As of now I use number 22 which works but still I need advice on what are the effects applicable for Videoke. Another question is can I connect my Pioneer AVR to my mixer so it can only output sa sounds and not the vocals coming from the mic. My set up right now is from Platinum X-5 player I have an RCA splitter. 1 goes directly to my Pioneer AVR and the other splitter goes into the Behringer mixer. the main output of the mixer then goes to my Sakura 733 amplifier where the vocals and sounds comes out. I want to get rid of the splitter but as I was told by the store where I purchase the mixer, vocals will also but sent to my pioneer avr if I hook it to the CD/Tape out or control room out. Any suggestion is much appreciated.Hindi ba mas naging masalimuot ang connection mo?
Nasubukan mo na bang Player+733 lang?
Powered na ang 733 bakit gamitan mo pa ng avr at 1202fx. Dagdag kuryente lang. Imo, all you need is speaker (cable) splitter which Marcrenz can make you one.
Also, compare mo ang output/tunog using your 1202fx + pioneer ; 1202fx + 733 using effect 22 & then 733 alone kung alin ang mas ok.
In my case, nililipat ku lang ang connection ng speakers using banana plugs kasi same speakers lang din ang gamit ko on both HT and Karaoke. Video output is not much of a concern since lyrics lang naman ang habol mo dun and besides, we're using iPad as player/screen. Hth ;)
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 06, 2016 at 10:23 AM
Hi fellow Pdvd members, Any advice on where I can download a PDF file for the list of effects available para sa behringer 1202FX as there was none included sa package. All I have is the range of effects that shows on the device itself. As of now I use number 22 which works but still I need advice on what are the effects applicable for Videoke. Another question is can I connect my Pioneer AVR to my mixer so it can only output sa sounds and not the vocals coming from the mic. My set up right now is from Platinum X-5 player I have an RCA splitter. 1 goes directly to my Pioneer AVR and the other splitter goes into the Behringer mixer. the main output of the mixer then goes to my Sakura 733 amplifier where the vocals and sounds comes out. I want to get rid of the splitter but as I was told by the store where I purchase the mixer, vocals will also but sent to my pioneer avr if I hook it to the CD/Tape out or control room out. Any suggestion is much appreciated.
I also use #22 (Plate reverb). The goal is to liven up the vocals without over extending. Reverb makes the vocals more natural sounding in a room/hall scenario. The BBD echo that comes with most videoke machines sounds as if your voice are bouncing of a mountain.
As for rerouting, explore CD/Tape to Ctrl switch. You then use the Ctrl Room Out to one of your amps with/without the vocals. You can also reroute via FX Send.
HTH,
Cheers
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 06, 2016 at 10:24 AM
Cheers
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 06, 2016 at 10:05 PM
Sir, for the preset fx, try this link; https://images.static-thomann.de/pics/atg/atgdata/document/misc/191257_presets.pdf
Regards
@ Sir Cy, Thanks a lot po for providing the link for the effects ng 1202FX.
Hindi ba mas naging masalimuot ang connection mo?
Nasubukan mo na bang Player+733 lang?
Powered na ang 733 bakit gamitan mo pa ng avr at 1202fx. Dagdag kuryente lang. Imo, all you need is speaker (cable) splitter which Marcrenz can make you one.
Also, compare mo ang output/tunog using your 1202fx + pioneer ; 1202fx + 733 using effect 22 & then 733 alone kung alin ang mas ok.
In my case, nililipat ku lang ang connection ng speakers using banana plugs kasi same speakers lang din ang gamit ko on both HT and Karaoke. Video output is not much of a concern since lyrics lang naman ang habol mo dun and besides, we're using iPad as player/screen. Hth ;)
@Sir praktikal, I already tried the player + 733 amp and the mic is connected sa 733 and di ko po nagugustuhan ang timpla ng delay and repeat para po ng may kulang. I engaged the Pioneer AVR for 2 reasons. first po is I use it to upscale the video source from 480p to 1080p casting to my PJ po. Secondly po is para ma-utilize ko yung lahat ng speakers including the sub po by using the external stereo mode ng Pioneer AVR. There's a huge improvement po sa vocals when we started using the 1202fx mixer po. My wife and kids enjoyed singing more than before.
I also use #22 (Plate reverb). The goal is to liven up the vocals without over extending. Reverb makes the vocals more natural sounding in a room/hall scenario. The BBD echo that comes with most videoke machines sounds as if your voice are bouncing of a mountain.
As for rerouting, explore CD/Tape to Ctrl switch. You then use the Ctrl Room Out to one of your amps with/without the vocals. You can also reroute via FX Send.
HTH,
Cheers
@sir JojoD818, We're using the same effects pala. I'd worked with all the effects and found that effects number 22 was the best sa pandinig ko po. As for the CD/Tape to Ctrl switch I will explore that route po and crossing my fingers na it will only send the sounds to my pioneer avr without vocals.
@Sir Nelson de Leon, Thanks for all the advises po.
@Everyone, This thread helps me a lot in my journey to attain a pleasurable singing experience. Thanks to everyone that shares their thoughts and insights.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 07, 2016 at 01:58 AM
@ Sir Cy, Thanks a lot po for providing the link for the effects ng 1202FX.
@Sir praktikal, I already tried the player + 733 amp and the mic is connected sa 733 and di ko po nagugustuhan ang timpla ng delay and repeat para po ng may kulang. I engaged the Pioneer AVR for 2 reasons. first po is I use it to upscale the video source from 480p to 1080p casting to my PJ po. Secondly po is para ma-utilize ko yung lahat ng speakers including the sub po by using the external stereo mode ng Pioneer AVR. There's a huge improvement po sa vocals when we started using the 1202fx mixer po. My wife and kids enjoyed singing more than before.
@sir JojoD818, We're using the same effects pala. I'd worked with all the effects and found that effects number 22 was the best sa pandinig ko po. As for the CD/Tape to Ctrl switch I will explore that route po and crossing my fingers na it will only send the sounds to my pioneer avr without vocals.
@Sir Nelson de Leon, Thanks for all the advises po.
@Everyone, This thread helps me a lot in my journey to attain a pleasurable singing experience. Thanks to everyone that shares their thoughts and insights.
Wala bang pang-upscale ang monitor mo?
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 07, 2016 at 06:26 AM
As for rerouting, explore CD/Tape to Ctrl switch. You then use the Ctrl Room Out to one of your amps with/without the vocals. You can also reroute via FX Send.Would that enable a simultaneous volume adjustment for both the receiver and other amp via mixer?
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 07, 2016 at 07:53 AM
Wala bang pang-upscale ang monitor mo?
sir nelson, my panasonic lcd tv is the first generation of 32 " vierra lcd tv hd ready lang its a regular lcd with no blows and whistles po.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 07, 2016 at 11:23 AM
@ Sir Cy, Thanks a lot po for providing the link for the effects ng 1202FX.
@Sir praktikal, I already tried the player + 733 amp and the mic is connected sa 733 and di ko po nagugustuhan ang timpla ng delay and repeat para po ng may kulang. I engaged the Pioneer AVR for 2 reasons. first po is I use it to upscale the video source from 480p to 1080p casting to my PJ po. Secondly po is para ma-utilize ko yung lahat ng speakers including the sub po by using the external stereo mode ng Pioneer AVR. There's a huge improvement po sa vocals when we started using the 1202fx mixer po. My wife and kids enjoyed singing more than before.
@sir JojoD818, We're using the same effects pala. I'd worked with all the effects and found that effects number 22 was the best sa pandinig ko po. As for the CD/Tape to Ctrl switch I will explore that route po and crossing my fingers na it will only send the sounds to my pioneer avr without vocals.
@Sir Nelson de Leon, Thanks for all the advises po.
@Everyone, This thread helps me a lot in my journey to attain a pleasurable singing experience. Thanks to everyone that shares their thoughts and insights.
Remember to engage CD/Tape to Ctrl but not CD/Tape to Mix first. Disengage FX to Ctrl. CD/Tape signal level is controlled by the Main Mix slider only.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 07, 2016 at 11:27 AM
Would that enable a simultaneous volume adjustment for both the receiver and other amp via mixer?
That is essentially the idea. Ctrl ops is mainly used for "cue'ing" but in his case it is relegated for signal rerouting.
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 07, 2016 at 11:48 PM
Remember to engage CD/Tape to Ctrl but not CD/Tape to Mix first. Disengage FX to Ctrl. CD/Tape signal level is controlled by the Main Mix slider only.
Hi sir JojoD818,
When engaging the CD/Tape to Ctrl button, Do I have to move the source connection from line 3/4 to CD/Tape In? or just leave the source connected to line 3/4?
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 08, 2016 at 12:14 PM
Hi sir JojoD818,
When engaging the CD/Tape to Ctrl button, Do I have to move the source connection from line 3/4 to CD/Tape In? or just leave the source connected to line 3/4?
Yes sir, you need to use the CD/Tape In for connecting your videoke source.
I'm not 100% certain it will work, but I did read the manual for the 1202 and though it is vaguely described how to use the CD/Tape option it's worth to try.
Other larger mixers have programmable/assignable post-fader options, let's hope we can use this idea to route only the source to one of your amps.
On the other hand, what you have now using a y-splitter works just as good, the only problem is you need to adjust two volume controls. My only worry is phase inversion during the processes but since this is only for videoke purposes (I don't mean to derogate) you may get away with it as it is.
Try lang, kaunting oras lang naman mawawala. That way you can fully understand the capabilities, as well as the limitations of your 1202.
Cheers
Post by: srkid on Oct 08, 2016 at 02:00 PM
Would like to seek any advise or guidance sana mga gurus. Thanks in advance.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 08, 2016 at 03:46 PM
Contemplating on which device to add to our current home videoke setup (bmb-1, sakura av 5023, kss10 speaker, Samson Q7 mic) that would give noticeable improvement. Was exploring on mixers but had to stop as I got confused with the technicalities lol
Would like to seek any advise or guidance sana mga gurus. Thanks in advance.
I would recommend the mixer, depending on the model, there are so many benefits.
Don't give in to the technicalities, not using one leads to the dark side. The Force is strong in this thread... ;D
Post by: srkid on Oct 09, 2016 at 08:05 PM
I would recommend the mixer, depending on the model, there are so many benefits.
Don't give in to the technicalities, not using one leads to the dark side. The Force is strong in this thread... ;D
Thanks sir Jojo for the reply.
Can you please give the specific brand and model? Hopefully not too expensive. Also I dont mind going to Raon to get a good deal :)
And may I know the mixer's benefits? in layman's term lang ha bro lol
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 09, 2016 at 09:16 PM
Thanks sir Jojo for the reply.
Can you please give the specific brand and model? Hopefully not too expensive. Also I dont mind going to Raon to get a good deal :)
And may I know the mixer's benefits? in layman's term lang ha bro lol
You're welcome sir. :)
I use the Phonic AM440D, sir jnazareta has the Behringer 1202fx. One seems to be a clone of the other or both of them are clones. ;D Anyway, the brand and model is not that important, what you should look for is the ability for digital efx, 3-band British EQ/Tone, FX send and at least 4 mic inputs (para walang agawan ng mic haha). Phantom power is a nice feature if you might use condenser microphones, they are pretty expensive but still.
Having separate EQs for the mics is a very nice feature especially if you have different brand mics, this way you can tailor specific mics to your needs. I was able to buy a cheap mic for a little over 500 bucks and it sucks if I use the mic input in my T-40+, however, if I use it in my mixer I can compensate for it's overly presented highs.
Also, most videoke players have fx that have fixed delays, all you can adjust is the amount (wet/dry) of the echo. This is just so annoying sometimes and the "process" is goes through just messes up the sound from the mics. Parang laging barado ang ilong ng kumakanta.
There are so many sellers in Raon, kaunting ikot lang siguro and you'll end up owning one. Use the Force and make tawad tawad. ;)
Cheers
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 10, 2016 at 02:45 AM
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Post by: srkid on Oct 10, 2016 at 10:35 AM
Ganito ba magiging connection? bmb-1 -> amp -> mixer -> mic
l--> speakers
Bro Nelson, how much yan Wharfdale? wala yan sa raon online which i use for reference...
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 10, 2016 at 08:14 PM
Ayus sir Jojo and Nelson, kung happy kayo dyan sa gamit nyo mixers - pwedeng pwede na yan sa amin, yan na hahanapin ko :) Sino ba suki nyo sa raon? para dun na din ako bili...
Ganito ba magiging connection? bmb-1 -> amp -> mixer -> mic
l--> speakers
Bro Nelson, how much yan Wharfdale? wala yan sa raon online which i use for reference...
I bought it at one of my dealers, www.channel.com.ph
Here's the link to the product itself:
http://www.channel.com.ph/product/connect-1202fxusb/6046/?cate_no=196&display_group=1
There's a smaller one pero 2 mic input lang though it's cheaper.
Source (stereo) - mixer stereo input
mic - mixer mic (balanced or unbalanced) input
output to power amp.
Kung sa preamp input niyo i-connect ang output ng mixer, KAILANGAN nasa set to zero or gitna (unity gain or zero db something) ang output ng mixer because mataas ang voltage output ng almost all mixers kasi ang ang basic ng pro-audio equipment.
Tukayo, hindi ko ma-explain pero nasa utak ko why. Haha! Would you kindly explain this stuff to others so they may benefit. It's not as simple as input output thing.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 10, 2016 at 09:21 PM
Ayus sir Jojo and Nelson, kung happy kayo dyan sa gamit nyo mixers - pwedeng pwede na yan sa amin, yan na hahanapin ko :) Sino ba suki nyo sa raon? para dun na din ako bili...
Ganito ba magiging connection? bmb-1 -> amp -> mixer -> mic
l--> speakers
Bro Nelson, how much yan Wharfdale? wala yan sa raon online which i use for reference...
Dito ko nabili yun sa akin sir, third owner na nga yata ako...
Anyway, simple lang naman sir pag setup, bmb-1 and mike mo pasok sa mixer tapos main out ng mixer pasok naman sa amp which drives the speakers.
Download mo mga manuals, para makapag "research" ka na din bago ka pa bumili. Google mo lang sir.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 10, 2016 at 09:29 PM
I bought it at one of my dealers, www.channel.com.ph
Kung sa preamp input niyo i-connect ang output ng mixer, KAILANGAN nasa set to zero or gitna (unity gain or zero db something) ang output ng mixer because mataas ang voltage output ng almost all mixers kasi ang ang basic ng pro-audio equipment.
Tukayo, hindi ko ma-explain pero nasa utak ko why. Haha! Would you kindly explain this stuff to others so they may benefit. It's not as simple as input output thing.
Usually naman Aux In ang gagamitin input papunta sa amp so dadaan pa din sa internal preamp ng amp nila yan.
Ah, hindi unity gain yon. You stop at 0dB sa main level so you won't overdrive the next stage - which is usually your amp. If not, you will hear clipping, para siyang crackling noise. Modern mixers have +4dBu at the ends which is only useful for pro audio signal chain, kadalasan gamit yan for Gain Structuring.
But to "simplify" things and huwag kayo matakot mag mixer, just set it slightly lower than 0db para hindi ma overdrive ang input ng power amp. Sa gain/volume na lang ng power amp itself kayo bumawi to increase the volume.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 10, 2016 at 09:41 PM
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 10, 2016 at 11:38 PM
Usually naman Aux In ang gagamitin input papunta sa amp so dadaan pa din sa internal preamp ng amp nila yan.
Ah, hindi unity gain yon. You stop at 0dB sa main level so you won't overdrive the next stage - which is usually your amp. If not, you will hear clipping, para siyang crackling noise. Modern mixers have +4dBu at the ends which is only useful for pro audio signal chain, kadalasan gamit yan for Gain Structuring.
But to "simplify" things and huwag kayo matakot mag mixer, just set it slightly lower than 0db para hindi ma overdrive ang input ng power amp. Sa gain/volume na lang ng power amp itself kayo bumawi to increase the volume.
Ayun. Natumbok mo. 4DBu.
Yan, diyan ka lang sa 0... although some amps can accept up to +5 naman. The idea is to have the least signal to noise ratio lang naman. Pag sumobra madidinig mo naman eh. ;D
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Correct! Dun na lang mag-adjust sa individual input controls.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 11, 2016 at 01:24 PM
Ayun. Natumbok mo. 4DBu.
Correct! Dun na lang mag-adjust sa individual input controls.
Use the peak LED indicators pag set ng individual mic level. Let it light up then back down a little. It's ok for it to blink from time to time but don't let it be lit at all times.
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Post by: jnazareta on Oct 11, 2016 at 07:39 PM
Yes sir, you need to use the CD/Tape In for connecting your videoke source.
I'm not 100% certain it will work, but I did read the manual for the 1202 and though it is vaguely described how to use the CD/Tape option it's worth to try.
Other larger mixers have programmable/assignable post-fader options, let's hope we can use this idea to route only the source to one of your amps.
On the other hand, what you have now using a y-splitter works just as good, the only problem is you need to adjust two volume controls. My only worry is phase inversion during the processes but since this is only for videoke purposes (I don't mean to derogate) you may get away with it as it is.
Try lang, kaunting oras lang naman mawawala. That way you can fully understand the capabilities, as well as the limitations of your 1202.
Cheers
Hi Sir Jojo,
I did tried this route last Sunday and was able to isolate the sounds from the vocals from the mic. the down side is I still be needing an RCA splitter coming from the source (Platinum X-5) to hook 1 end to the cd/tape in and the other splitter goes to the 5/6 line in. I also need an extra PL connector for the control room out. Never the less this connection should work for me. I just set all the level control to 0 and the main mix level below the 0db position. Thanks a lot for answering all my queries... I'm still waiting for your compander sir jojo.. :)
Post by: srkid on Oct 11, 2016 at 09:01 PM
Phonic 440DP vs Behringer UB1202FX
Any tips?
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 11, 2016 at 11:15 PM
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 11, 2016 at 11:20 PM
Daming mixer ni Behringer & Phonic na magkakalapit presyo. Mukhang eto gagawin ko sa weekend - magbasa ng reviews
Phonic 440DP vs Behringer UB1202FX
Any tips?
Both Mixers will fit your needs for videoke usage. Kindly advise if may mahanap ka po na Phonic 440D. Sinuyod ko na po ang raon and wala akong mahanap na Phonic 440D kaya nauwi po ako sa behringer. The advantage of Phonic sa behringer is yung repair. You can bring your Phonic mixer sa Pioneer service center directly for repair while sa behringer you have to bring it back sa pinagbilhan mo and sila ang magdadala sa pagawaan.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 12:00 AM
Both Mixers will fit your needs for videoke usage. Kindly advise if may mahanap ka po na Phonic 440D. Sinuyod ko na po ang raon and wala akong mahanap na Phonic 440D kaya nauwi po ako sa behringer. The advantage of Phonic sa behringer is yung repair. You can bring your Phonic mixer sa Pioneer service center directly for repair while sa behringer you have to bring it back sa pinagbilhan mo and sila ang magdadala sa pagawaan.Si Zamony ang distro ng Phonic. Same sa Wharf, Pioneer etc.
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Post by: srkid on Oct 12, 2016 at 07:39 AM
Both Mixers will fit your needs for videoke usage. Kindly advise if may mahanap ka po na Phonic 440D. Sinuyod ko na po ang raon and wala akong mahanap na Phonic 440D kaya nauwi po ako sa behringer. The advantage of Phonic sa behringer is yung repair. You can bring your Phonic mixer sa Pioneer service center directly for repair while sa behringer you have to bring it back sa pinagbilhan mo and sila ang magdadala sa pagawaan.
Bro jnazareta, have you tried checking Nepco shop? also in Raon.
Meron sa suki ni bro Nelson - http://www.channel.com.ph/product/am-440dp/5039/?cate_no=141&display_group=1
Question, meron ba website where can do side by side comparo? para mas madali difference in specs.
Like this - http://raon-online.com/index.php?route=product/compare
Thanks! :)
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 11:10 AM
Hi Sir Jojo,
I did tried this route last Sunday and was able to isolate the sounds from the vocals from the mic. the down side is I still be needing an RCA splitter coming from the source (Platinum X-5) to hook 1 end to the cd/tape in and the other splitter goes to the 5/6 line in. I also need an extra PL connector for the control room out. Never the less this connection should work for me. I just set all the level control to 0 and the main mix level below the 0db position. Thanks a lot for answering all my queries... I'm still waiting for your compander sir jojo.. :)
Hi Sir,
Glad to hear that. Keep on exploring the mixer, you can make your own routing once you understand your mixer more. It's the fun part.
You're welcome. :)
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 11:13 AM
Daming mixer ni Behringer & Phonic na magkakalapit presyo. Mukhang eto gagawin ko sa weekend - magbasa ng reviews
Phonic 440DP vs Behringer UB1202FX
Any tips?
Halos same lang yan dalawa na yan sir. If ever may difference man sila kaunti lang, sonically speaking you wouldn't go wrong between the two.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 11:15 AM
yan din balak ko mag mixer sa videoke para sa family ko. :)
Go na, it's a pretty good entertainment and investment for the kids din.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 11:28 AM
Correct! We are building experiences and memories for our children.
Go na, it's a pretty good entertainment and investment for the kids din.
Minimum 4 mic input para may allowance.
Tukayo, Nakagamit ka na ng digital mixer? Yun nga bago ngayon, halos minimal na ang latency issues.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 11:38 AM
Correct! We are building experiences and memories for our children.
Minimum 4 mic input para may allowance.
Tukayo, Nakagamit ka na ng digital mixer? Yun nga bago ngayon, halos minimal na ang latency issues.
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It builds confidence and actually gumaganda naman boses ng mga anak ko, well compared sa dati ha. ;D Before mahiyain pa humawak ng mic yan pag may occasion pero ngayon pag may nag request napagbibigyan na so for me it's money well spent.
Yes tukayo I was able to try a couple but it's in a studio/rehearsal setup. I believe as of now hindi pa worth ang cost to performance ratio ng digital mixers. Plus the fact na wala naman tayo paggagamitan niyan sa bahay. ;D
Post by: srkid on Oct 12, 2016 at 12:11 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 12:13 PM
Ah that part I also agree with you re performance to cost ratio. Sobrang taas pa ng cost as in x6 minimum.
It builds confidence and actually gumaganda naman boses ng mga anak ko, well compared sa dati ha. ;D Before mahiyain pa humawak ng mic yan pag may occasion pero ngayon pag may nag request napagbibigyan na so for me it's money well spent.
Yes tukayo I was able to try a couple but it's in a studio/rehearsal setup. I believe as of now hindi pa worth ang cost to performance ratio ng digital mixers. Plus the fact na wala naman tayo paggagamitan niyan sa bahay. ;D
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Post by: jnazareta on Oct 12, 2016 at 01:37 PM
Bro jnazareta, have you tried checking Nepco shop? also in Raon.
Meron sa suki ni bro Nelson - http://www.channel.com.ph/product/am-440dp/5039/?cate_no=141&display_group=1
Question, meron ba website where can do side by side comparo? para mas madali difference in specs.
Like this - http://raon-online.com/index.php?route=product/compare
Thanks! :)
I did checked with channel.com.ph by calling them and they confirmed na no stock sila ng phonic 440d same hoes sa nepco sa raon. Yung raon online naman po is rayjin ang true name and no stock din sila. I even called LIS sa meganall and the only stock they have is the 240d. I end up sa stage point kasi sila ang suki kong store sa raon po.
Post by: srkid on Oct 12, 2016 at 02:03 PM
Musta pala, laki ba difference nung kinabit mo mixer sa karaoke? Ano comments ng mga singer? :)
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 12, 2016 at 02:31 PM
Thanks for the info bro jnazareta, mukhang mabenta yan Phonic 440DP. Hanap-hanap pa more...
Musta pala, laki ba difference nung kinabit mo mixer sa karaoke? Ano comments ng mga singer? :)
sir srkid, there's a noticable difference po compared to the previous setup that i have. yumg headroom paramg tumaas at naging wide ang boses ng mga singers. honestly po i have a friend that uses a mixer pag nag vivideoke session po kami kaso i was contemplating sa cost dati ng mixer where in yung phonic 440d and behringer 1202fx cost almost 10k. but now na bumaba na ang price and due to the influence ni sir nelson and sir jojo that seeing your kids and family enjoys while singing makes me think and weight that price is incomparable with the happiness you can give your family as we bond better while singing compared to watching movies..
Post by: srkid on Oct 12, 2016 at 03:08 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 03:29 PM
Nice. May effect ba mixer sa scoring?When you use the mixer, hindi na ata gagana ang scoring because the scoring is based on the mic input sa karaoke unit itself.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:17 PM
Tumpak, masaya pang family at tropa bonding :)
Naku sir very useful ang mixer especially pag nakainom na ang tropa! Meron diyan madamot sa mic at meron din halos sumigaw na sa pagkanta. >:D
What I do is use those color coded XLR and PL connectors, para kapag medyo malagihay na yun kumakanta alam ko agad kung anong channel ang babantayan ko.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/xlr_zpsnqcqqmgr.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jojod818/media/Dump/xlr_zpsnqcqqmgr.jpg.html)
Sobrang busy lang ako talaga sa mga projects kaya hindi ko pa naasikaso yun compander ko, pag meron na ako nun kahit lumawit na litid sa kakasigaw sa mic hindi mag clip yun input signal. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:19 PM
Ah that part I also agree with you re performance to cost ratio. Sobrang taas pa ng cost as in x6 minimum.
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Nakakaasar pa mag setup niyan tukayo, para ka nag start up ng 747 sa dami ng buttons. Ang pinaka gusto ko lang sa kanya pwede save ng raw downmix, very convenient feature for me.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:24 PM
Totoo yan tukayo pero hanep naman ang flexibility niya and integration sa computer. Hehe! Individual EQ etc. Ang nakakainis is sa super dami ng function niya, ang liit ng monitor.
Nakakaasar pa mag setup niyan tukayo, para ka nag start up ng 747 sa dami ng buttons. Ang pinaka gusto ko lang sa kanya pwede save ng raw downmix, very convenient feature for me.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:24 PM
Thanks for the info bro jnazareta, mukhang mabenta yan Phonic 440DP. Hanap-hanap pa more...
Musta pala, laki ba difference nung kinabit mo mixer sa karaoke? Ano comments ng mga singer? :)
Go for the Behringer 1202, sa nabasa ko sa manual ok naman. Pareho lang siya sa 440D sir.
Comments? Hhmmm parang ayaw na bitawan ang mic eh, ganda daw kasi ng boses nila. >:D
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:27 PM
Totoo yan tukayo pero hanep naman ang flexibility niya and integration sa computer. Hehe! Individual EQ etc. Ang nakakainis is sa super dami ng function niya, ang liit ng monitor.
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Meron ako nagamit yun I/O interface lang niya ang makikita mo tapos via USB ang connection sa PC. Then software na yun user interface sa desktop. Ang problema, nakakabato lang tukayo maghintay ng mixdown kapag makupad ang pc.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:27 PM
Nice. May effect ba mixer sa scoring?
Auto disable po yata ang scoring kapag walang mic input sir.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:28 PM
Jan masarap ang standalone digital mixer
Meron ako nagamit yun I/O interface lang niya ang makikita mo tapos via USB ang connection sa PC. Then software na yun user interface sa desktop. Ang problema, nakakabato lang tukayo maghintay ng mixdown kapag makupad ang pc.
Hehe!
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:32 PM
Jan masarap ang standalone digital mixer
Hehe!
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Yup, pero hindi mag agree sa budget eh hahaha!
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:34 PM
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:40 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:45 PM
Oo nga eh, hindi kakayanin ng mga nag setup ng studio rehearsal yan budget na yan.Yes. Dami kong clients na studio rehearsal. Wala pa akong makita. Hehe!
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 12, 2016 at 04:48 PM
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 12, 2016 at 06:02 PM
Naku sir very useful ang mixer especially pag nakainom na ang tropa! Meron diyan madamot sa mic at meron din halos sumigaw na sa pagkanta. >:D
What I do is use those color coded XLR and PL connectors, para kapag medyo malagihay na yun kumakanta alam ko agad kung anong channel ang babantayan ko.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/Dump/xlr_zpsnqcqqmgr.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jojod818/media/Dump/xlr_zpsnqcqqmgr.jpg.html)
Sobrang busy lang ako talaga sa mga projects kaya hindi ko pa naasikaso yun compander ko, pag meron na ako nun kahit lumawit na litid sa kakasigaw sa mic hindi mag clip yun input signal. ;D ;D ;D
This is worth the wait..
Post by: srkid on Oct 12, 2016 at 06:04 PM
Post by: jnazareta on Oct 12, 2016 at 06:13 PM
Sir include ALTO ZMX 122FX sa mga selection mo. My friend recently bought one and we will test it this saturday. If this mixer fits my needs to get rid of the splitter thing I might sell my behringer 1202fx as the Alto zmx 122fx has an aux send 1 mon in every channel, This means that you can send any source connected to your mixer to the monitor out.
Post by: srkid on Oct 13, 2016 at 07:21 AM
Post by: hb69 on Oct 13, 2016 at 12:38 PM
I did checked with channel.com.ph by calling them and they confirmed na no stock sila ng phonic 440d same hoes sa nepco sa raon. Yung raon online naman po is rayjin ang true name and no stock din sila. I even called LIS sa meganall and the only stock they have is the 240d. I end up sa stage point kasi sila ang suki kong store sa raon po.Bro I was also looking for a phonic 440D. I ended up with a Phonic Celeus 400. Bought it at Raygin sa raon. Ok siya kasi parang updated na 440D. It has bluetooth and also has usb. You can also connect it to PC for recording and can also act as a sound card for PC. And may compressor at expander na din yung input channels niya. It's only slightly more expensive than a 440D.
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Post by: praktikal on Oct 13, 2016 at 12:43 PM
Looks promising ha. Ganda!
http://www.phonic.com/mixers/celeus-400/
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 13, 2016 at 01:10 PM
Bro I was also looking for a phonic 440D. I ended up with a Phonic Celeus 400. Bought it at Raygin sa raon. Ok siya kasi parang updated na 440D. It has bluetooth and also has usb. You can also connect it to PC for recording and can also act as a sound card for PC. And may compressor at expander na din yung input channels niya. It's only slightly more expensive than a 440D.
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Uy this is it.
Post by: hb69 on Oct 13, 2016 at 01:34 PM
^ magkano mo nabili? Ok yan ah esp kung you build from scratch.7.8k siya pero nakuha ko ng 7.6k after making tawad. Yap ok siya especially for me kasi I just use my HTPC as my karaoke source gamit ko downloaded youtube karaoke songs. Tapos if I don't want to turn on my PC and display, I just use the Bluetooth function and pwede ka na kumanta just connect your phone sa YouTube.
Looks promising ha. Ganda!
http://www.phonic.com/mixers/celeus-400/
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Post by: praktikal on Oct 13, 2016 at 01:53 PM
Post by: srkid on Oct 13, 2016 at 04:45 PM
Na curious tuloy ako sa youtube karaoke... Maganda ba sound?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 13, 2016 at 04:51 PM
Mukhang ok nga yan Celeus 400.
Na curious tuloy ako sa youtube karaoke... Maganda ba sound?
Pipili ka din ng maganda ang sound. Hindi lahat.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 15, 2016 at 02:27 PM
Mukhang ok nga yan Celeus 400.
Na curious tuloy ako sa youtube karaoke... Maganda ba sound?
Unfortunately, hindi lahat ok yun mga galing sa youtube. Pero mdami ako nakita na pwede na din.
Post by: srkid on Oct 15, 2016 at 05:39 PM
Ok lang ba gumamit na lang ng PL to XLR mic cable adapter? What brand?
Follow up ko lang sana...
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 15, 2016 at 06:54 PM
Follow up ko lang sana...
Saan mo gagamitin? May phone jack input naman yun mga mixer. It is pointless to use XLR connection if you will just use it for unbalanced connection. That's what the phone jacks are for. ;)
Post by: srkid on Oct 15, 2016 at 08:21 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 15, 2016 at 08:47 PM
Thanks bro. Yun mic para pwede sa mixer at rekta sa player pag may gusto meron score.
You won't need it because you can already plug your mic directly to the mixer. Pag may mixer ka na malamang ayaw mo na rekta sa player ang mic.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 15, 2016 at 09:17 PM
You won't need it because you can already plug your mic directly to the mixer. Pag may mixer ka na malamang ayaw mo na rekta sa player ang mic.
It's true pero kaya ba ng player ihandle yun output voltage ng mixer? Mabababa lang kasi ang mga input voltage ng mic input ng player dba?
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 15, 2016 at 10:09 PM
It's true pero kaya ba ng player ihandle yun output voltage ng mixer? Mabababa lang kasi ang mga input voltage ng mic input ng player dba?
Hindi naman niya sinabi na ikakabit ang output ng mixer sa input ng mic. Hindi pwede yun. ;D
I think what he meant was ililipat niya from mixer to player yun mic pag may gusto ng scoring. ;)
Post by: srkid on Oct 16, 2016 at 08:04 AM
Hindi naman niya sinabi na ikakabit ang output ng mixer sa input ng mic. Hindi pwede yun. ;D
I think what he meant was ililipat niya from mixer to player yun mic pag may gusto ng scoring. ;)
Tama bro, tusok yun mic diretso sa player para sa scoring... :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2016 at 10:05 AM
I am eyeing TJ Media as replacemmet around 13k yung cheapest model nila Im not sure kung mag tatagal ito, i already tried two brands, first one hyundai all of a sudden ayaw ng mag on tapos itong wow. Platinum would have been a good option kaso natatakot ako sa cd based karaoke.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 16, 2016 at 03:15 PM
Tama bro, tusok yun mic diretso sa player para sa scoring... :)
Pwede pwede, kasama sa kasiyahan yan score eh. ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 16, 2016 at 03:20 PM
Had my WOW Premium karaoke busted, pag on blink na lang ng blink yung pilot light to think na bihira lang magamit nakakahinayang na nasira na agad, got this for around 12k,,
I am eyeing TJ Media as replacemmet around 13k yung cheapest model nila Im not sure kung mag tatagal ito, i already tried two brands, first one hyundai all of a sudden ayaw ng mag on tapos itong wow. Platinum would have been a good option kaso natatakot ako sa cd based karaoke.
I've been a cd=based videoke user ever since brader. From vcd pa nga noon. So far wala naman ako problema, yun platinum vcd ko pinamigay ko na hanggang ngayon masaya pa din yun pinagbigyan ko.
I never liked those WOW kasi pag nasira wala na, tangay na niya player and mic. As for hard disk systems naman last time I heard may kamahalan yun updates, I don't know if this is still true but for my T40+ ang update dvd is 450 each. Madalas pag mag Pasko lang ako bumibili ng updated disc.
Post by: srkid on Oct 16, 2016 at 04:06 PM
Pwede pwede, kasama sa kasiyahan yan score eh. ;D
Ayus para lahat happy :) bawas gastos sa palit connectors...
Mic to mixer - for serious singing
Mic to player - for tropa pag medyo lasing na hehe
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2016 at 05:24 PM
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 16, 2016 at 07:00 PM
Ayus para lahat happy :) bawas gastos sa palit connectors...
Mic to mixer - for serious singing
Mic to player - for tropa pag medyo lasing na hehe
Yes, besides, useless/pointless din naman mag XLR pa kung hindi din naman balanced ang connection, gagawin mo din naman unbalanced yan tapos nag XLR ka pa. ;D
Buti sana kung naka balanced source and using phantom power especially kung milya-milya na layo ng wire. >:D
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 16, 2016 at 07:06 PM
brader Jo yung tjmedia pwede ka na mag update fr their website ng libre yung plitinum ba san binibili ang bagong disc?
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So one time na lang gastos yan brader? Hhmmm... ano ang catch? Ang dami sa Raon brader ng mga updated disc, pero yun kasi suki ko nagagawan ng paraan na makahanap pa ng printed song list nun mga luma.
For example, last time vol 69 ang meron ako, nun bibili ako ng updated disc nasa vol 75 na so yun suki ko sinasama niya yun vol 70, 71, 72, 73 and 74 dun sa song list ng vol 75 para pati song book ko updated din.
Sa iba kasi pag vol 75 lang ang binili mo na disc yun kasama lang niya na listahan ang ibibigay sa iyo, wala na yun nalaktawan mo na.
Sabi ng pamangkin ko pwede daw download ng songlist, di ko pa lang naitanong kung saan meron para sa Platinum T40+.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2016 at 07:11 PM
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 16, 2016 at 07:32 PM
yung T40+ yan yung kapitan ano? pakibulong mo nga number nung suki mo at baka pwede ang delivery.
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Iba pa yun brader pero yan Kapitan na ang modelo ngayon. Yun mga nabubuksan ko na for rent na videoke yan ang laman eh, isipin mo na lang kung paano bugbugin yun. ;D
Sige endorse kita brader, sabihin ko yun macho kagaya ko. Pero totoo ba na mas macho na ako sayo ngayon? >:D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 16, 2016 at 07:42 PM
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Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 16, 2016 at 08:19 PM
brader from 110 kgs to 87 kgs na kakakanta hahaha
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naka WOW ka kasi eh, lakas pala makabawas ng timbang niyan brader haha >:D
Post by: praktikal on Oct 16, 2016 at 09:58 PM
Had my WOW Premium karaoke busted, pag on blink na lang ng blink yung pilot light to think na bihira lang magamit nakakahinayang na nasira na agad, got this for around 12k,,Meantime, try mo muna yung kagaya sa setup ko. Malakas naman yata wifi sa inyo... Pwede mo naman download mga gusto mong kanta para kahit walang wifi tuloy ang kantahan. Yung budget mong 13k plus future song updates katumbas na ng shure sm58, hdd for storage, etc. though maganda ang feedback sa Tj ha. Sa libong kanta, marami dun di mapakinabangan.
I am eyeing TJ Media as replacemmet around 13k yung cheapest model nila Im not sure kung mag tatagal ito, i already tried two brands, first one hyundai all of a sudden ayaw ng mag on tapos itong wow. Platinum would have been a good option kaso natatakot ako sa cd based karaoke.
Nagkaroon ako ng Canadian bacon este visitors at naaliw naman sila. Habang may kumakanta, ang iba nag search sa mga cp for next song and they can even use their cp/tablet kung gustohin. Kung sa player, stuck ka na sa klase ng recording at kung ano ang meron. Sa youtube, pwede ka mamili kung alin sa same song ang ok para syo. Once in a while kapag may naisip akong kanta, search and save to playlist agad using iPad.
Epektib at praktikal...at least for me.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 17, 2016 at 02:34 AM
Meantime, try mo muna yung kagaya sa setup ko. Malakas naman yata wifi sa inyo... Pwede mo naman download mga gusto mong kanta para kahit walang wifi tuloy ang kantahan. Yung budget mong 13k plus future song updates katumbas na ng shure sm58, hdd for storage, etc. though maganda ang feedback sa Tj ha. Sa libong kanta, marami dun di mapakinabangan.salamat ra tip ka noli.sadly mabagal ang inteinet ko. yung xiaomi android player na gamit ko may karaoke function pero di ko pa na try kase streaming eh.
Nagkaroon ako ng Canadian bacon este visitors at naaliw naman sila. Habang may kumakanta, ang iba nag search sa mga cp for next song and they can even use their cp/tablet kung gustohin. Kung sa player, stuck ka na sa klase ng recording at kung ano ang meron. Sa youtube, pwede ka mamili kung alin sa same song ang ok para syo. Once in a while kapag may naisip akong kanta, search and save to playlist agad using iPad.
Epektib at praktikal...at least for me.
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Post by: praktikal on Oct 17, 2016 at 04:42 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 17, 2016 at 09:01 PM
^ Don't tell me mas stable pa signal dito sa Bae? Nasa baba ang router at sa attic ang kantahan.1mbps lang kaya madalas mag buffer
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Post by: praktikal on Oct 17, 2016 at 10:25 PM
1mbps lang kaya madalas mag buffer
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Sus!
.70Mbps DL & .46Mbps UL dito sa attic. Olats na olats sa 1Mbps mo khoya.... nag buffer din pero madalang.
Post by: wengkapre on Oct 18, 2016 at 10:01 AM
1mbps lang kaya madalas mag buffer
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Kaso always online naman ibang gadgets,kaya ginagawa ko off ko muna wi-fi para wala kaagaw sa bandwith.
ang damot e no? ahahaha
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 18, 2016 at 01:13 PM
Kaso always online naman ibang gadgets,kaya ginagawa ko off ko muna wi-fi para wala kaagaw sa bandwith.
ang damot e no? ahahaha
OT: Neybor di pa ako nakakabili flash drive :( Super busy lang...
Post by: Ozzy on Oct 26, 2016 at 01:12 PM
just got a platinum T40+
ung volume level is at the maximum pag ON mo ng unit.
ganun ba talaga?
tia..
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 26, 2016 at 01:58 PM
question..
just got a platinum T40+
ung volume level is at the maximum pag ON mo ng unit.
ganun ba talaga?
tia..
Yes that is the default setting. You are not meant to use it naman kasi.
Post by: Ozzy on Oct 26, 2016 at 02:24 PM
Yes that is the default setting. You are not meant to use it naman kasi.
a ok.
what I do sir is set my amp at the max volume and sa T40+ ako nag control.
so sa amp na lang pala ako mag adjust ng volume and leave the T40+ as is.
thanks sa help sir jojo.
8)
Post by: praktikal on Oct 26, 2016 at 02:31 PM
Post by: Ozzy on Oct 26, 2016 at 02:48 PM
^ Naku! Not a good practice na naka max volume ang amp mo tapos max din sa player at pag nakaligtaan mong ibaba ang volume.... yari!
Thanks ;D
will keep that in mind.
Post by: JojoD818 on Oct 26, 2016 at 03:46 PM
a ok.
what I do sir is set my amp at the max volume and sa T40+ ako nag control.
so sa amp na lang pala ako mag adjust ng volume and leave the T40+ as is.
thanks sa help sir jojo.
8)
Sir,
Always use your amp's volume control and leave the volume of the t40+ at it's default setting of max. It's the usual "way" to go about it.
Happy singing. Cheers
Jojo
Post by: shoktongxxx on Oct 26, 2016 at 04:07 PM
or gamit ka pre-amp. :)
a ok.
what I do sir is set my amp at the max volume and sa T40+ ako nag control.
so sa amp na lang pala ako mag adjust ng volume and leave the T40+ as is.
thanks sa help sir jojo.
8)
Post by: Ozzy on Oct 26, 2016 at 04:33 PM
because of this thread, napabili ako ng T40+ ;D
am ditching my extreme magic sing. di na din naman nagagamit since luma na chips ko.
yup, happy singing days again (kahit wala sa tono >:D).
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 28, 2016 at 03:58 AM
Thanks guys.is that the kapitan?
because of this thread, napabili ako ng T40+ ;D
am ditching my extreme magic sing. di na din naman nagagamit since luma na chips ko.
yup, happy singing days again (kahit wala sa tono >:D).
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Post by: Ozzy on Oct 28, 2016 at 07:40 AM
is that the kapitan?
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yes chief..
Platinum Kapitan T40+ ^-^
bili ka na sir, maganda nga sq >:D
napabili ako last Monday
Post by: x--ArchAngeL--x on Nov 14, 2016 at 01:27 PM
1) Konzert KCS212 + Xenon Tempus (7,000 songs with songbook, 2 x 180W speakers, DVD player, 2 mic inputs, FM radio, USB, card slot and Bluetooth) for about PhP8,000.00
2) Behringer Eurolive B115D + Xenon Tempus (7,000 songs with songbook, 1 x 100W speaker, built-in mixer, 2 mic inputs, USB and wireless mic connectivity) for about PhP21,000.00
Hoping for your soonest replies.
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 14, 2016 at 05:36 PM
Maybe others have tried the Xenon.
Post by: x--ArchAngeL--x on Nov 16, 2016 at 10:56 AM
Mga Master, patulong naman, I'm planning to set up a videoke for home use only. So far, my idea is to buy any of the following:
1) Konzert KCS212 + Xenon Tempus (7,000 songs with songbook, 2 x 180W speakers, DVD player, 2 mic inputs, FM radio, USB, card slot and Bluetooth) for about PhP8,000.00
2) Behringer Eurolive B115D + Xenon Tempus (7,000 songs with songbook, 1 x 100W speaker, built-in mixer, 2 mic inputs, USB and wireless mic connectivity) for about PhP21,000.00
Hoping for your soonest replies.
Bumping this up mga Masters. Please help. Planning to buy really soon.
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 16, 2016 at 01:23 PM
Mga Master, patulong naman, I'm planning to set up a videoke for home use only. So far, my idea is to buy any of the following:kung may budget I i suggest to go with platinum, T40+ should be ok for home use. mabilis kasi sila magupdate ng kanta through dvd.
1) Konzert KCS212 + Xenon Tempus (7,000 songs with songbook, 2 x 180W speakers, DVD player, 2 mic inputs, FM radio, USB, card slot and Bluetooth) for about PhP8,000.00
2) Behringer Eurolive B115D + Xenon Tempus (7,000 songs with songbook, 1 x 100W speaker, built-in mixer, 2 mic inputs, USB and wireless mic connectivity) for about PhP21,000.00
Hoping for your soonest replies.
Post by: TinkerTailor on Nov 16, 2016 at 10:56 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 17, 2016 at 02:17 PM
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 17, 2016 at 02:32 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 17, 2016 at 04:41 PM
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 17, 2016 at 05:04 PM
i saw TJ Media in action maganda kaya lang ang mahal 14k ang entry level dalawang mid level na platinum nanot sure kung na sort out na ng tj media yung licensing issue nila, yan ang naging problema nila dati compared sa platinum, wala silang song updates na mailabas.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 17, 2016 at 06:15 PM
not sure kung na sort out na ng tj media yung licensing issue nila, yan ang naging problema nila dati compared sa platinum, wala silang song updates na mailabas.mas madali na actually mag update kay TJ punta lang sa website nila.but then again doble ang presyo kaya mas ok pa din si platinum
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 17, 2016 at 08:11 PM
volume control or input capbaka nga daw input cap master JD sabi ng opis mate ko.
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 18, 2016 at 07:42 PM
baka nga daw input cap master JD sabi ng opis mate ko.
OT:
yup malamang leaky na sir...
Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 18, 2016 at 08:26 PM
OT:yun nga daw baka leak na cap.:)
yup malamang leaky na sir...
sorry po sa OT.
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 18, 2016 at 10:43 PM
yun nga daw baka leak na cap.:)
sorry po sa OT.
papalitan mo na agad ha baka makadamay pa ng iba. ;)
Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 18, 2016 at 11:53 PM
di pa sir pinapacheck pa cold solder bago ko check cap, pero pag yung cap obvious sira like lumobo or kumatas palitan ko na same value. :)
papalitan mo na agad ha baka makadamay pa ng iba. ;)
worry rin ako sa repair gagawin ko eh. :-\ ???
Post by: CeeV on Nov 19, 2016 at 08:09 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 19, 2016 at 11:29 AM
di pa sir pinapacheck pa cold solder bago ko check cap, pero pag yung cap obvious sira like lumobo or kumatas palitan ko na same value. :)
worry rin ako sa repair gagawin ko eh. :-\ ???
May edad na din ba amp mo? kung plan mo keep I suggest shotgun approach mo na mga lytic caps. Di ka makakakanta ng maayos niyan pag may pilay amp mo.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 19, 2016 at 12:12 PM
May edad na din ba amp mo? kung plan mo keep I suggest shotgun approach mo na mga lytic caps. Di ka makakakanta ng maayos niyan pag may pilay amp mo.yun nga sir JD baka lahatan na palit cap nito. :(
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 19, 2016 at 03:04 PM
yun nga sir JD baka lahatan na palit cap nito. :(
minsan kasi hindi masabi ang quality nun mga caps na nakakabit kaya tiyagain mo na ipa replace. pare new life na din sir.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 19, 2016 at 04:26 PM
minsan kasi hindi masabi ang quality nun mga caps na nakakabit kaya tiyagain mo na ipa replace. pare new life na din sir.thanks sir. ganyan gawin ko. ;)
Post by: teokun on Nov 30, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Post by: Papaber on Dec 12, 2016 at 03:12 PM
Post by: guido on Dec 14, 2016 at 09:03 PM
reyna3 na daw kapalit. may hdmi na. same kaya sound modules nila?
nawala na multichannel input, coaxial and optical. talagang pangkantahan lang
Post by: threadlock on Dec 20, 2016 at 09:13 PM
Parang gusto ko tong mixer na to for my videoke setup.
Para mas masaya ang kantahan ngayong pasko!
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/nfalabi/Mixer/Phonic%20Celeus%20400_zpsu3odn5gp.png)
Meron kayang genuine nito sa Raon?
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 20, 2016 at 10:35 PM
Meron kayang genuine nito sa Raon?
Wala pa naman ako natiyempuhan na fake ng Phonic sa Raon. :)
Post by: threadlock on Dec 20, 2016 at 11:18 PM
Will post pics here kung ano mahanap ko dun.
Wala pa naman ako natiyempuhan na fake ng Phonic sa Raon. :)
Post by: srkid on Dec 21, 2016 at 01:42 PM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2016 at 08:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0unrtD22w38
Post by: threadlock on Dec 21, 2016 at 08:57 PM
Kaso mukhang sa amazon lang available.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2016 at 09:11 PM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 22, 2016 at 04:21 PM
http://forum.tkaraoke.com/tkf_postst3864_-Help--My-karaoke-system-sounds-bad--What-can-I-do.aspx#post19587
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 04, 2017 at 02:37 PM
nakaka aliw pala mag videoke hunting sa raon ang daming magaganda at higit sa lahat mura.
new videoke set up
Platinum Piano using 16gb micro sd
Platinum PT WM100 wireless mic
Kool Sound KS 5000 wired mic
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Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 04, 2017 at 08:45 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 07, 2017 at 02:38 AM
Congrats brader. Pakanta pag mapadaan sa inyo. Hehe.Pwedeng pwede brader manuel
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Post by: Ozzy on Apr 07, 2017 at 07:39 AM
finally :)
how's the sq sir?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 07, 2017 at 01:47 PM
congrats sir..happy naman ako pero mas maganda pa din talaga ang TJ Media.
finally :)
how's the sq sir?
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Post by: kefq on Jul 10, 2017 at 03:19 PM
mobile device ----------> microphone --------> amplifier---->speaker
(bluetooth) (rca)
Cost: Microphone = 700
Microphone mount with tablet / phone holder = 600
(https://cf1.s3.souqcdn.com/item/2016/10/25/11/74/97/01/item_XL_11749701_17089930.jpg)
Meron din microphone and tablet / phone mount para feeling recording artist.
(https://d3w527fg593tfv.cloudfront.net/images/500x500/201605/aigpmo1464248537914.jpg)
Post by: TinkerTailor on Jul 10, 2017 at 04:25 PM
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 11, 2017 at 08:44 AM
Post by: Tha_Mann on Sep 08, 2017 at 10:13 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 08, 2017 at 11:12 AM
Post by: JeromeA on Sep 11, 2017 at 09:00 AM
Anyone tried yung cheapo microphone na may built-in speaker ;D. Karaoke via youtube then using bluetooth connection from your mobile device paired sa microphone ? Microphone has audio-out papuntang amp.
(https://cf1.s3.souqcdn.com/item/2016/10/25/11/74/97/01/item_XL_11749701_17089930.jpg)
bro kef i've already tried that one but this one is better
(http://ph-live-02.slatic.net/p/2/mini-karaoke-k068-home-ktv-handheld-wireless-bluetooth-microphonewith-mic-speaker-gold-with-case-1488843159-78728321-73610c19f23807177e91c2c163e9f27f-catalog_233.jpg)
sa handyman ka bumili kasi nagbebenta sila ng orig nyan. marami na kasi nagkalat na mga fake.
Post by: TinkerTailor on Oct 21, 2017 at 07:12 AM
Post by: zram18 on Oct 21, 2017 at 09:19 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2017 at 10:18 AM
mga sir, please help im planning to buy videoke sa raon. ano na magandang bilhin setup these days? 20k budget only. d na kc ako updated it has been years since i went there. thank u for your replies.i would go for platinum piano,konzert amp and konzert speakers. check berklyn store or nepco
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Post by: frequenzy on Oct 23, 2017 at 09:19 PM
mga sir, please help im planning to buy videoke sa raon. ano na magandang bilhin setup these days? 20k budget only. d na kc ako updated it has been years since i went there. thank u for your replies.recently purchased last month, player w/ mic sa raon then amp and speakers sa mall.
platinum piano - 5.8k
daichi us-audio wired mic - 1k
konzert 502 amp - 3.8k
konzer kss-10 speakers pair - 7k
kung pang bahay lang then pwede na sir. but with your 20k budget malamang mas maganda yung sa inyo.
just to share, although marami brands just stick with platinum and tj media. they are the ones na may constant updates. if you prefer song contents then platinum, if sound quality then tj media. i also don't suggest yung mga low-end models, they don't sound good.
pagdating sa storage there are three types, sdcard, hdd and dvd. sa ngayon mas prefer ko sdcard, since walang moving parts. sd update can be purchased sa platinum at 650php. although mas cheaper ang dvd update at 400php. hdd based are updated monthly at 150php, disadvantage is you need bring the player sa service center although meron ng iba na pwede online. tj media only have sd and hdd based players. also ensure na latest volume ang bibilhin mo, for platinum sd/dvd latest is vol. 78. for hdd dapat updated up to oct 2017.
-platinum - mid tier
piano (sd card)
kapitan 2 (dvd)
x3 (hdd)
-platinum - high tier
hd-10 (hdd)
alpha (sd card)
-tj media - mid tier
maestro (non removable sd card)
-tj media - high tier
305p (hdd)
-for the karaoke amplifier, eto yung mga common depende na lang sa power requirement mo.
konzert 502
sakura 7xx series
kevler gx series
platinum sultan
-for the karaoke speakers, i suggest getting 3-way speakers like below
konzert ks-755v
konzert kss-10
konzert kss-12
kevler kr-310
kevler kr-312
-for the microphone, don't get those ultra cheap ones na 300php. lowest to highest
platinum ks-5000
daichi us-audio
platinum pt series
shure pga48 orig
-wireless microphone
platinum wireless ptw
trident snu-90
ad dvon (high end 13k)
had good experience with these raon shops - mina's electronics, berkly/nepco and raygin. gamextreme at raon is the authorized distributor of platinum products.
as a side note, stay away from those class a amplifiers and speakers, they are a little bit cheaper but not good quality. usually sinasabi naman nila kung orig or class a.
just feel free to ask kung may tanong pa :)
Post by: praktikal on Nov 04, 2017 at 05:18 PM
Post by: shoktongxxx on Nov 04, 2017 at 11:21 PM
May asar experience lang ako sa nepco, yung mataray na ale na para bang di nabiyayaan ng ngiti.
ha ha..parang na meet ko yan, sinabihan ko na kakilala ko boss nya pinakita ko yung text namin nung boss nya ayun nakalma naman. Muntik ko nang palakpakan sa mukha eh.. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 14, 2017 at 05:50 AM
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Post by: frequenzy on Nov 14, 2017 at 08:33 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 14, 2017 at 11:21 AM
nice, kss speakers na din. for videoke use ok talaga siya.Thanks.was supposed to just get the ks 455 kaya lang mas maganda talaga tumunog tong kss kaya ito na kinuha ko.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 14, 2017 at 12:28 PM
Yun boses ko kailangan pa din ng upgrade, buti pa mga anak ko hindi tumatahol mga aso pag sila ang kumakanta.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 14, 2017 at 12:53 PM
Ang ganda naman niyan.salamat brader. di ko ma upgrade ang boses ko kaya yang gamit na lang hehehe
Yun boses ko kailangan pa din ng upgrade, buti pa mga anak ko hindi tumatahol mga aso pag sila ang kumakanta.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 14, 2017 at 01:45 PM
salamat brader. di ko ma upgrade ang boses ko kaya yang gamit na lang hehehe
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Naka ilan upgrade na ako brader. Nun una pale pilsen lang umo-ok na eh, nag switch ako sa red horse pambihira hindi ko na alam kung night or day pa hehehe.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 14, 2017 at 06:08 PM
Naka ilan upgrade na ako brader. Nun una pale pilsen lang umo-ok na eh, nag switch ako sa red horse pambihira hindi ko na alam kung night or day pa hehehe.isa na lang kulang ko yung wireless mic ng konzert
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Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 14, 2017 at 06:20 PM
isa na lang kulang ko yung wireless mic ng konzert
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Balitaan mo kami kung maganda brader.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 15, 2017 at 07:59 AM
ipon muna ulit at may kamahalan din.
Balitaan mo kami kung maganda brader.
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Post by: srkid on Nov 15, 2017 at 08:43 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 15, 2017 at 09:14 AM
Check mo din Trident SN-U90 - dami good feedback sa karaoke FB group...Thank you sir, will check it.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 15, 2017 at 11:11 AM
ipon muna ulit at may kamahalan din.
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Hindi ba siya nakakatakot na mawala yun mic brader? ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 15, 2017 at 11:12 AM
Di ko gets?
Hindi ba siya nakakatakot na mawala yun mic brader? ;D
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Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 15, 2017 at 11:54 AM
Di ko gets?
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Post by: praktikal on Nov 24, 2017 at 11:27 AM
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 09, 2017 at 12:59 PM
Ok din po ba yong brand na kevler for videoke set up. Balak ko mag set up videoke para sa bahay lang.Madaming gusto ang kevler pero mas gusto ko ang tunog ng konzert.
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Post by: dandoy on Dec 09, 2017 at 11:49 PM
Post by: zram18 on Dec 10, 2017 at 08:02 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 10, 2017 at 08:12 AM
mga sir pwede ba yong bose 301 o 201 gamitin pang karaoke speaker. thankspwede naman, pero ingat lng sa mic volume, they are not really designed for live vocals
Post by: TinkerTailor on Dec 10, 2017 at 08:44 AM
Comparison:
Recording - TJ Media (304P) trumps the Platinum Kapitan 2
Song lineup - mas ok ang Platinum para sa akin
SQ - same
Post by: CeeV on Dec 10, 2017 at 09:44 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:04 AM
Boss did ya opened up your Kapitan 2 and look for what is it's sound processor? TJ medial boast of it's sound module SAM xxx something..kaya they are of sound quality superior compared to it's rival.sam 2634 highest na gamit ni platinum, tj 304 uses 3816, highest ata so technically tj media should have better sound quality.
one major issue with tj, is song content. every update ata nila nagbabawas sila ng mga sikat na kanta due to copyright issues.
Post by: CeeV on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:15 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:26 AM
Kumuha ako ng Platinum Kapitan 2 dahil nainteres ako sa recording function nya at dahil mas madami ang mga standard songs na gusto ko compared sa TJ Media. Unfortunately, my friend and I were disappointed with the recording function. Di katulad ng TJ media na parang halos narecord sa studio.hehe. Wala rin akong makita na option na isave yun nirecord mo as MP3.Pinaka maganda pa din ang sq ng tjmedia but not sure sa lower model yung pinakinggan ko yung pinaka mataas na model nila nevertheless di naman miles apart compared sa piano ni platinum.21k vs 6k i will take platinum piano anyday
Comparison:
Recording - TJ Media (304P) trumps the Platinum Kapitan 2
Song lineup - mas ok ang Platinum para sa akin
SQ - same
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:50 AM
Thanks...so tlaga nga na Platinum still sounds synthesized pa rin and not natural sounding...bat kase hindi pa rin sila upgrade ng sound module...drawback talaga nyan TJ is it's song content...legal kase, dunno if Platinum pays the copyright, they seem are very abreast of the latest songs.platinum never had issues with copyright so i guess legal sila, plus sila ginagamit sa mga gma 7 na contest. if tj media can fix their issues with the song updates then definitely recommended, i hope they dont go back to the time where they dont have any epop update.
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 10, 2017 at 10:54 AM
Pinaka maganda pa din ang sq ng tjmedia but not sure sa lower model yung pinakinggan ko yung pinaka mataas na model nila nevertheless di naman miles apart compared sa piano ni platinum.21k vs 6k i will take platinum piano anydaytama kayo sir, yung top end model lang nila yung gumgamit nun, pero for low/mid same with platinum ang sound module.
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 10, 2017 at 11:26 AM
... I did it my.......
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 01:00 PM
Sino kaya ang may pinakamagandang videoke setup dito? Share nyo naman with pics sana...Pinakamaganda will always be subjective i would supposed,
... I did it my.......
eto yung aking happy set up
Samsung PA 60H5000
Konzert KSS10
Konzert 602R
Konzert 33MU
Platinum Piano
currently saving for a Konzert mixer and subwoofer
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 01:08 PM
tama kayo sir, yung top end model lang nila yung gumgamit nun, pero for low/mid same with platinum ang sound module.Mag TJ Media 305P dapat ako kaya lang tatlong Piano na ang katumbas nya eh masaya naman na ako sa tunog ng Piano yung natipid ko naibili ko ng bagong amp at speaker. saka sabi nga ni brader jojod pag dating sa tibay proven na si platinum.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 01:09 PM
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 10, 2017 at 02:03 PM
Pinakamaganda will always be subjective i would supposed,
eto yung aking happy set up
Samsung PA 60H5000
Konzert KSS10
Konzert 602R
Konzert 33MU
Platinum Piano
currently saving for a Konzert mixer and subwoofer
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Bitin pa din sa lalim ang kss10 maski indoor? Kung kss12 kaya, need pa din ng sub?
Unlike hi-fi speakers, ang hirap iaudiation ang karaoke speakers esp sa raon bukod sa maingay parang dapat bibili ka na after.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 02:07 PM
Bitin pa din sa lalim ang kss10 maski indoor? Kung kss12 kaya, need pa din ng sub?hindi bitin ang kss10 sa bass. gusto ko lang maglagay ng subwoofer para mas may diin.
Unlike hi-fi speakers, ang hirap iaudiation ang karaoke speakers esp sa raon bukod sa maingay parang dapat bibili ka na after.
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 10, 2017 at 02:29 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 03:14 PM
Isa na rin sa nakoconsider ko yang kss10 kasi mas flexible than most indoor karaoke speakers. Tripod lang katapat in case mag outdoor.nagustuhan ko ito kase kahit sa music listening maganda din ang tunog.
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Post by: TinkerTailor on Dec 10, 2017 at 06:48 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 06:53 PM
Whiskey dapat brader and handa sa videoke EB para swabe ang boses kumanta. ;D Tapos bawal ang sweets at may suka na snacks. Kasi lumalabas ang mucus sa throat.hehelearned something new today hahaha
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 10, 2017 at 07:27 PM
Thanks...so tlaga nga na Platinum still sounds synthesized pa rin and not natural sounding...bat kase hindi pa rin sila upgrade ng sound module...drawback talaga nyan TJ is it's song content...legal kase, dunno if Platinum pays the copyright, they seem are very abreast of the latest songs.Parang tunog "computer composed" ang mga music. Hindi siya tunog "banda". Mahal ang Kumyoung pero if you've listened to their music, parang banda tumunog.
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 10, 2017 at 07:30 PM
Sino kaya ang may pinakamagandang videoke setup dito? Share nyo naman with pics sana...I integrated my karaoke sa HT system ko though DIY lang ang 2 speakers ko kaya low budget lang din with my receiver powering the speakers.
... I did it my.......
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 10, 2017 at 08:39 PM
Madaming gusto ang kevler pero mas gusto ko ang tunog ng konzert.
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speakers or amp sir?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 08:40 PM
speakers or amp sir?both
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 10, 2017 at 08:45 PM
both
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may Konzert amp and speakers ako pero nung na demo ko yung speakers na Kevler sa same ng Konzert amp ko sa mall parang mas angat yung Kevler speakers mas klaro yung tunog nung side by side ko i-demo sa store, yun nga lang kabibili ko lang nung Konzert speakers nun kaya di makahirit magpalit palo abutin ko dun. :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 09:15 PM
may Konzert amp and speakers ako pero nung na demo ko yung speakers na Kevler sa same ng Konzert amp ko sa mall parang mas angat yung Kevler speakers mas klaro yung tunog nung side by side ko i-demo sa store, yun nga lang kabibili ko lang nung Konzert speakers nun kaya di makahirit magpalit palo abutin ko dun. :)Pag dating sa tunog im a firm believer na subjective sya eh.ako naman nag pa demo ng kevler amp with kevler speaker nanipisan ako sa tunog nya. ilang buwan din ako balik balik para makinig ng konzert amp with konzert speakers and kevler amp with kevler speakers pero naninipisan talaga ako sa tunog nya.
Mas malaki sana kamurahan ng kevler at mas maganda ang itsura but in the end mas nagustuhan ko talaga ang konzert not to mention mas readily available sa mga tindahan dito sa malolos bulacan
may nag suggest sa akin trident sn u90 na wireless mic kaso wala ako alam kung san mag pa demo
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Post by: zram18 on Dec 10, 2017 at 09:24 PM
Post by: TinkerTailor on Dec 10, 2017 at 09:33 PM
sam 2634 highest na gamit ni platinum, tj 304 uses 3816, highest ata so technically tj media should have better sound quality.
one major issue with tj, is song content. every update ata nila nagbabawas sila ng mga sikat na kanta due to copyright issues.
Possible kaya na pagpalitin ang sound processors nila?
i.e. 3816 of tj 304p to the platinum. Hehe
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 09:46 PM
so mas ok pla kevler over konzert. planning to buy also one set this dec..kung may time ka mag punta sa raon mas maganda mag audition dun kase parehong merong konzert at kevler mas maganda mapakinggan mo pareho and decide.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 09:48 PM
Possible kaya na pagpalitin ang sound processors nila?update mo na lang si TJ madali din naman ata update ng song sa TJ eh
i.e. 3816 of tj 304p to the platinum. Hehe
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 10, 2017 at 11:30 PM
Kevler kr310 - 50Hz-20kHz, 450w, 90db, 6 months warranty, bs type
Daiichi kr100 - 40Hz -20kHz, 300w, 91db, lifetime warranty
Konzert (wala akong makitang freq. response)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 10, 2017 at 11:52 PM
10" comparison:
Kevler kr310 - 50Hz-20kHz, 450w, 90db, 6 months warranty, bs type
Daiichi kr100 - 40Hz -20kHz, 300w, 91db, lifetime warranty
Konzert (wala akong makitang freq. response)
Pardon my ignorance pero pano i explain yung mga numbers na yan sa specs in layman's term?
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 11, 2017 at 12:14 AM
Pardon my ignorance pero pano i explain yung mga numbers na yan sa specs in layman's term?
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Assuming na accurate ang specs nila (sana), mas may lalim ang kr100 at mas "manipis" nga tumunog itong kr310. Mas malakas nga ang power ng kr310 pero kahit anong lakas ng volume hanggang 50Hz lang talaga ang LF nya. Dyan blangko ang info sa konzert kasi hindi nila naindicate ang freq. resp. kasi nga siguro ang akala nila karamihan lang naman na tanong ng customer ay power.
Yang mga PA speakers with plastic casings like kss-10 (96dB ; 48Hz) at Eon-10 (97dB ; 65Hz) ng kevler ay matataas ang sensitivity kaya madaling i-drive pero mataas pa din ang freq. resp.
Ang tanong ko sa mga pro dito ay kung malaki ba ang diff ng 40Hz sa 50Hz pagdating sa kantahan? Magyeyelo ba ang beer mong hawak sa lamig ng boses sa 10Hz diff.? hehehe...
Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 11, 2017 at 05:52 AM
Pag dating sa tunog im a firm believer na subjective sya eh.ako naman nag pa demo ng kevler amp with kevler speaker nanipisan ako sa tunog nya. ilang buwan din ako balik balik para makinig ng konzert amp with konzert speakers and kevler amp with kevler speakers pero naninipisan talaga ako sa tunog nya.
Mas malaki sana kamurahan ng kevler at mas maganda ang itsura but in the end mas nagustuhan ko talaga ang konzert not to mention mas readily available sa mga tindahan dito sa malolos bulacan
may nag suggest sa akin trident sn u90 na wireless mic kaso wala ako alam kung san mag pa demo
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Ah. Dito kasi sa store na binilhan ko mas mahal speakers ng Kevler ng 1k kesa sa Konzert. Di ko pa nasubukan ang Kevler amp and speakers dito sa WorkStation sa Central Mall Binan. :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 11, 2017 at 05:55 AM
Ah. Dito kasi sa store na binilhan ko mas mahal speakers ng Kevler ng 1k kesa sa Konzert. Di ko pa nasubukan ang Kevler amp and speakers dito sa WorkStation sa Central Mall Binan. :)kapag may what ifs ka sir dika matatahimik kaya mag ipon na ulit pang bili ng kevler hahaha.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 11, 2017 at 06:32 AM
kapag may what ifs ka sir dika matatahimik kaya mag ipon na ulit pang bili ng kevler hahaha.Ha ha..natumbok mo chief sakit na ata ito, kahit di naman ako nakanta si misis and panganay ko lang gumagamit nun gusto ko parin palitan..he he
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Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 11, 2017 at 08:35 AM
Ang tanong ko sa mga pro dito ay kung malaki ba ang diff ng 40Hz sa 50Hz pagdating sa kantahan?
Siguro for a trained ear a 1/4th octave shift alam yan pero sa kantahan, I doubt it.
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Magyeyelo ba ang beer mong hawak sa lamig ng boses sa 10Hz diff.? hehehe...
Sa Thermodynamics namin noon ang natatandaan ko it needs about 3 hours for H2O to freeze, iba naman ang composition ng beer so baka hindi applicable. Tsaka may rule na "hindi bale sa ano mag babad wag lang sa baso" diba? ;D
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 11, 2017 at 01:04 PM
10" comparison:before getting kss-10, nacompare ko before yung Kevler KR310 vs Konzer KSS10, pagdating sa videoke mas angat yung vocals ng konzert, mas mura ata yung kevler ng mga 2-3k.
Kevler kr310 - 50Hz-20kHz, 450w, 90db, 6 months warranty, bs type
Daiichi kr100 - 40Hz -20kHz, 300w, 91db, lifetime warranty
Konzert (wala akong makitang freq. response)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 11, 2017 at 06:19 PM
before getting kss-10, nacompare ko before yung Kevler KR310 vs Konzer KSS10, pagdating sa videoke mas angat yung vocals ng konzert, mas mura ata yung kevler ng mga 2-3k.
Good to know. Tama, nasa 2-3k nga price diff. malaki din. Sabi sa Nepco, mas ok daw ang daiichi kr vs kev's kr kaya maganda talaga makumpara ang tatlo at kung sulit ang 2-3k diff. Ipon pa...
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Post by: zram18 on Dec 11, 2017 at 07:04 PM
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 11, 2017 at 07:13 PM
96db? thats too high better than high end speakers..
ang alam ko matataas talaga kapag mga PA speakers.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 11, 2017 at 07:37 PM
96db? thats too high better than high end speakers..i really like this pair doing music listening. May koleksyon ako ng audiophile voices na nilagay ko sa usb and i am very satisfied sa tunog kapag piniplay ko.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 11, 2017 at 07:39 PM
better ba wireless microphone as compared to wired?sa akin ang lamang eh yung less clutter ang hirap kase sa wired hirap mag pasa pasa kapag nag kakantahan na prone pa sa sira yung wire.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 11, 2017 at 09:22 PM
Itsura, build quality, speaker terminal and flexibility led me to get this(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/f79068f3ef735e606619dac3e0fa50a3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171211/8bea9cd76b6e8fa081a4bfad92d17692.jpg)
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i really like this pair doing music listening. May koleksyon ako ng audiophile voices na nilagay ko sa usb and i am very satisfied sa tunog kapag piniplay ko.
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hmmm, ma try nga ito. :D
mukhang panalo to ah. :)
KS455V kasi yung kinuha ko dati at na compare ko sa Kevler KX450.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 11, 2017 at 10:13 PM
hmmm, ma try nga ito. :D
mukhang panalo to ah. :)
KS455V kasi yung kinuha ko dati at na compare ko sa Kevler KX450.
Ah malayo ang tunog ng ks455v sa kss10 sa speaker terminal pa lang malayong malayo na base sa panglasa ko
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM
better ba wireless microphone as compared to wired?more of convenience lang, pero if you are after quality iba pa rin ang wired.
last friday nag videoke kami sa redbox gb3, they provide shure pg48 wireless mics, although lumang luma na pero iba talaga yung quality ng shure. buong buo yung boses at parang nasa concert.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2017 at 12:40 AM
Ah malayo ang tunog ng ks455v sa kss10 sa speaker terminal pa lang malayong malayo na base sa panglasa ko
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sige chief hunt ako ma auditionan nyan. :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 12, 2017 at 12:43 AM
sige chief hunt ako ma auditionan nyan. :)robinsons appliances ko nabili yung akin.siguro sa malalaking abenson meron
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2017 at 06:36 AM
robinsons appliances ko nabili yung akin.siguro sa malalaking abenson meronCopy thanks!
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 12, 2017 at 08:18 AM
sige chief hunt ako ma auditionan nyan. :)sir kung bitin kayo sa kss-10, may big brother yan yung kss-12, try niyo rin icheck.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 12, 2017 at 08:25 AM
ang alam ko matataas talaga kapag mga PA speakers.
hindi ko alam yun ah.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2017 at 09:56 AM
sir kung bitin kayo sa kss-10, may big brother yan yung kss-12, try niyo rin icheck.Noted chief, thanks!
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 12, 2017 at 01:22 PM
sir kung bitin kayo sa kss-10, may big brother yan yung kss-12, try niyo rin icheck.bitin ako sir sa pang bili ng kss 12 hehehe
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 12, 2017 at 01:26 PM
bitin ako sir sa pang bili ng kss 12 heheheparehas tayo sir. hehe!
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 12, 2017 at 01:28 PM
parehas tayo sir. hehe!ok na ako sa kss10 para sa sala
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 12, 2017 at 03:26 PM
ok na ako sa kss10 para sa salaGora na sa sub para sulit nitong holidays...! 😎
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 12, 2017 at 09:53 PM
bitin ako sir sa pang bili ng kss 12 hehehe
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Ha ha..malamang mabitin din ako dun. ;D
Post by: praktikal on Dec 15, 2017 at 12:06 AM
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 15, 2017 at 09:22 AM
Any owner review of the platinum reyna 3? Deeco electronics cubao is selling this for 5.5k, Im tempted but I just want to get your thoughts on its performance before I decide. Thanksalthough ok naman ang sounds ni reyna 3, one major issue I've read in the videoke group is that nag auto-shut off yung mic (putol effect) so parang nagkakaron ng delay kung mahina yung boses. sa mga videoke machines na gamit ang reyna, minsan naglalagay pa ng karaoke sound mixer to overcome this.
try to check yung platinum piano or kapitan 2.
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 15, 2017 at 10:10 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 15, 2017 at 11:04 AM
^ thank you for the tips. reyna 3 lng kasi ang in stock nila, yung iba by order pa.mukang kailanagan talaga pumasyal sa raon.kung bibili kayo ngayon verify niyo kung vol 79 ang kasama, yung iba kasi vol 78 pa binibigay.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 15, 2017 at 11:58 PM
although ok naman ang sounds ni reyna 3, one major issue I've read in the videoke group is that nag auto-shut off yung mic (putol effect) so parang nagkakaron ng delay kung mahina yung boses. sa mga videoke machines na gamit ang reyna, minsan naglalagay pa ng karaoke sound mixer to overcome this.Ang alam ko na ayos na ito sa bagon labas na reyna.
try to check yung platinum piano or kapitan 2.
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Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Dec 19, 2017 at 08:41 AM
Magandang Umaga Mga Braders
Baka meron gustong bumili ng Original Wired SHURE PG58 Mic jan
I have a spare one for sale Used But not abused..hehe
selling for 3k Only w/o Mic Cable ( Current Price from Lazada is 7k Plus)
Thanks and Merry Xmas to All!
Post by: praktikal on Dec 19, 2017 at 10:02 AM
https://www.audiophile.ph/dynamicmicrophones?product_id=80
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Dec 19, 2017 at 04:26 PM
^ mas mahal pa sa sm58 (7k sa Lazada ang pg58)?
https://www.audiophile.ph/dynamicmicrophones?product_id=80
yun po ang nakapost eh..
anyways negotiable naman sya :)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 19, 2017 at 06:10 PM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2017 at 01:24 PM
May iba pa syang medleys.
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 21, 2017 at 02:10 PM
Meron din bang mga medley sa players? Baka may gusto nitong natisod ko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZUG6_F-ZfQsa platinum parang wala ako napansin na medleys, not sure with other players.
May iba pa syang medleys.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2017 at 02:33 PM
Post by: noob on Dec 21, 2017 at 04:19 PM
Magandang pang asar sa mga babad sa mic, pag turn mo na yung tipong kalahating oras na medley isalang mo para matuyuan ng laway, haha!
Meron bang medley na nag sisimula sa "My Way"!
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 21, 2017 at 04:47 PM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2017 at 05:15 PM
Meron bang medley na nag sisimula sa "My Way"!ah yari! Di rin magiging medley yun kasi tapos agad haha
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 21, 2017 at 05:35 PM
i decided to get the platinum piano. i got it 5,800 sa raon. partnered with konzert 502b for 3,600 and kevler kr310 4,800. wala pa pala ako mic. ano po ang ok na mura lng? - wala ng budget :(nice sir, eto suggestion ko, wag na po mag aksaya ng 300php or lower na mics.
ks-5000 - 500 budget mic
us daichi - 1k
platinum pt series - 1k up
shure pga48 - 2k up high end
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 21, 2017 at 08:09 PM
sa platinum parang wala ako napansin na medleys, not sure with other players.Madami yung sa akin
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 21, 2017 at 08:18 PM
i decided to get the platinum piano. i got it 5,800 sa raon. partnered with konzert 502b for 3,600 and kevler kr310 4,800. wala pa pala ako mic. ano po ang ok na mura lng? - wala ng budget :(congratulations sir.kay game extreme may libreng isang mic ks5000 yata na maganda naman.
may napagtanungan ako suggestion is trident sn u90 pero mas gusto ko konzert 33mu para puro konzert na gamit.
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2017 at 08:37 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 21, 2017 at 10:04 PM
Ok din yung mic ng wharfdale, lumalabas na less 1k lang ang isa sa set of 3 w/carrying case. Not sure lang if magkano na ngayon. Samson daw ok din.Yan din ang gamit ko. Maski sa mic may pagka "Wharf" signature sound pa din.
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 21, 2017 at 10:50 PM
example yung mga shure sm58, pag diretso sa player kahit itodo mo mic volume medyo mahina pa rin, na overpower ng music. usually gumagamit na ng mixer para ma adjust yung gain.
Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 21, 2017 at 11:00 PM
para sa mga wired mic for platinum videoke, take note lang din yung impedance. 600ohms usually yung ideal to match the player. lowest na cguro yung 300ohms, kapag bumaba pa like 150ohms kadalasan mahina na yung output. since wala naman gain setting sa player.
example yung mga shure sm58, pag diretso sa player kahit itodo mo mic volume medyo mahina pa rin, na overpower ng music. usually gumagamit na ng mixer para ma adjust yung gain.
hmmm, noob talaga ako sa ganito problem ko kasi is mas malakas mic ko sa music so dapat pala mas mababa kunin ko ohms para lamang music sa vocals tama ba?
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 21, 2017 at 11:12 PM
hmmm, noob talaga ako sa ganito problem ko kasi is mas malakas mic ko sa music so dapat pala mas mababa kunin ko ohms para lamang music sa vocals tama ba?kung malakas mic sir then pwede niyo po hinaan yung mic volume, normally separate knob naman siya. adjust niyo lang sa preference niyo.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 22, 2017 at 10:43 AM
Yan din ang gamit ko. Maski sa mic may pagka "Wharf" signature sound pa din.
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sa totoo na curious lang ako noon at kaya ko binili dahil sa case hehe... Prior sa pagbili kinausap ko na 2 mates ko para sa 2 mics. Ang gamit ko talaga 2 audio technica na gift sa akin ng hipag kong entertainer dati sa korea.
Post by: RadioPhono on Dec 26, 2017 at 07:41 AM
Post by: JeromeA on Dec 26, 2017 at 07:55 AM
8) Okey lang bang gamitin ang Onkyo 809 para videoke set up, Any speaker na match sa onkyo na pang videoke. thanks
ok lang siguro bro pag AVR gagamitin mo. wag lang ang mamahaling speaker mo.. haha
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 26, 2017 at 11:14 AM
8) Okey lang bang gamitin ang Onkyo 809 para videoke set up, Any speaker na match sa onkyo na pang videoke. thankscheck mo muna sir kung may direct stereo mode, kadalasan kasi sa ht receiver may delay ang boses kapag ginamit sa videoke.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 26, 2017 at 12:14 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 26, 2017 at 12:49 PM
Meron ba naglakas ng loob kumanta ng My Way sa inyo last night? ;D ;D ;DNo way!
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 26, 2017 at 12:52 PM
8) Okey lang bang gamitin ang Onkyo 809 para videoke set up, Any speaker na match sa onkyo na pang videoke. thanks
ok lang siguro pero bibili ka din lang ng speakers to match for karaoke use bakit hindi ka na lang magbuo ng separate setup? Kung nakabili ka ng 809, the more na makakabili ka ng 3k na karaoke amp plus k-speakers.
Post by: RadioPhono on Dec 26, 2017 at 03:39 PM
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 26, 2017 at 04:20 PM
nice sir, eto suggestion ko, wag na po mag aksaya ng 300php or lower na mics.
ks-5000 - 500 budget mic
us daichi - 1k
platinum pt series - 1k up
shure pga48 - 2k up high end
I decided to get from audiophile alimall 2 mics - shure sv100 for 1,150 and shure pga48 at 2,500 with cord. Kapag walang cord small difference, 200 pesos lng. Yung shure sv100 maayos na din kung pang karaoke lng 1,150 with cord na.
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 26, 2017 at 05:13 PM
I decided to get from audiophile alimall 2 mics - shure sv100 for 1,150 and shure pga48 at 2,500 with cord. Kapag walang cord small difference, 200 pesos lng. Yung shure sv100 maayos na din kung pang karaoke lng 1,150 with cord na.congrats sir, ayos yang shure pga48.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 26, 2017 at 06:18 PM
No way!
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Bakit naman? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 26, 2017 at 06:31 PM
8) Okey lang bang gamitin ang Onkyo 809 para videoke set up, Any speaker na match sa onkyo na pang videoke. thanksMasyadong mahal para sa videoke pero kung wala ka namang pag gagamitan nyan why not. Just make sure match ang speaker.6 ohms ang 809 kung di ako nag kakamali. Paalala lang madaling mag init ang 809 at malamang eh di pwedeng pang mahabaang gamit.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 26, 2017 at 06:37 PM
Meron ba naglakas ng loob kumanta ng My Way sa inyo last night? ;D ;D ;DPuro rey valera ako, harem scarem at scorpions brader.
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 26, 2017 at 06:59 PM
Bakit naman? ;D ;D ;D
Kaharap kasi si wifey kaya binago ko ang lyrics, ginawa kong "your way".
Hehe!
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 26, 2017 at 08:46 PM
Kaharap kasi si wifey kaya binago ko ang lyrics, ginawa kong "your way".
Hehe!
Ah wala ka talagang kalaban-laban period! ;D ;D ;D
So far wala ako nadinig na rendition ng "My Way", mukhang natakot ang lahat baka kasi ang susunod na madidinig either police or ambulance siren LOL!
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 26, 2017 at 08:47 PM
Puro rey valera ako, harem scarem at scorpions brader.
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Buti ka pa brader, ako hindi nakakanta... nabiktima ako ng Noche Buena eh ;D
Post by: pa3ck608 on Dec 26, 2017 at 09:11 PM
Kaharap kasi si wifey kaya binago ko ang lyrics, ginawa kong "your way".
Hehe!
iba talaga ang sense of humor mo master. haha.. like!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 26, 2017 at 09:50 PM
Wala kaming noche buena kaya puro kanta hahaha
Buti ka pa brader, ako hindi nakakanta... nabiktima ako ng Noche Buena eh ;D
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Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 27, 2017 at 11:36 AM
Wala kaming noche buena kaya puro kanta hahaha
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Diet pa din ba? Kabag abutin mo niyan brader. ;D
PS: Pickup mo na naitawag ko na yun kailangan mo. Enjoy ;)
Post by: qguy on Dec 27, 2017 at 04:11 PM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 27, 2017 at 04:22 PM
Anong reliable amp na under 10K ?
Umiiwas ka kamo sa sakura but my sakura 733 ay ayos pa din maski na 2nd owner na ako at yun daw ang nilalagay ng mga taga Raon sa high end package nila. Pero marami na ring naglabasan like Kevler kaso wala akong masabi sa tibay.
Post by: bongerds on Dec 27, 2017 at 04:57 PM
I purchased one recently from listening room powered mixer from phonic, may bluetooth at 4-mic input and one aux-in. Taiwan made and looks more decent than the china made amp. Hopefully tumagal, nakaka hinayang din yun tapon ka ng pera sa low quality amp. Cost a bit more than sakura/konzert amp around 8.8k less 10% pag cash. Meron higher powered amp pero out of stock at that time.
http://www.phonic.com/mixers/powered-mixers/powerpod-series/powerpod-415rw/
Post by: noob on Dec 27, 2017 at 05:54 PM
Anong reliable amp na under 10K ?
Pioneer A-307R (courtesy of a pdvd member) with an efficient, outdoor TOA F240gm speaker enough for use it in a small 11 ft x 11 ft living room.
Nadali naman ako sa pag upgrade ng TJ Media TKR 304p, since Dec 2013 pa kasi nabili and now lang updated (3.5K) :(
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 27, 2017 at 05:54 PM
dalawa beses na ako nasiraan ng sakura amp, usually one channel na lang ang gumagana, na try ko din yun kumyoung amp and linear pro, pare-pareho ang nasisira yun one channel bumibigay... nawawala yun sound. Malakas yun sakura amp kung power ang basihan.
I purchased one recently from listening room powered mixer from phonic, may bluetooth at 4-mic input and one aux-in. Taiwan made and looks more decent than the china made amp. Hopefully tumagal, nakaka hinayang din yun tapon ka ng pera sa low quality amp. Cost a bit more than sakura/konzert amp around 8.8k less 10% pag cash. Meron higher powered amp pero out of stock at that time.
http://www.phonic.com/mixers/powered-mixers/powerpod-series/powerpod-415rw/
Curious lang. Same channel ang nasisira? Have you checked your speakers din?
IME, matibay naman sakura/konzert amps pero ampao nga lang ang rating at mabilis mabasag ang tunog kung susundin yun advertised power rating. So use it by "ear", pag basag na atras ka na talaga sa volume.
As for phonic, I totally agree, I've used their pro equipment in quickie resto/bar setups before. Better quality build and parts, walang semento sa loob na pampabigat.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 27, 2017 at 05:57 PM
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Post by: noob on Dec 27, 2017 at 06:08 PM
Nadali naman ako sa pag upgrade ng TJ Media TKR 304p, since Dec 2013 pa kasi nabili and now lang updated (3.5K) :(
Guys, meron bang other options dito? TIA
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 27, 2017 at 06:21 PM
Maraming salamat brader JojoD sa assist, matutuwa mga staff namin nito(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171227/f3cc310f4b53a1256d7169fa4e4e1020.jpg)
Diet pa din ba? Kabag abutin mo niyan brader. ;D
PS: Pickup mo na naitawag ko na yun kailangan mo. Enjoy ;)
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 27, 2017 at 06:34 PM
Guys, meron bang other options dito? TIAAno po yung query ninyo?
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 27, 2017 at 06:40 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 27, 2017 at 06:58 PM
Just be careful in using our integrated amps with power mixers as most power mixers have a very high voltage output because they are meant for pro audio systems. Kailangan lang controlled yun input gain per channel and output level. The best setting is yun zero (0) gain sa input and adjust accordingly sa output. May tawag duon sa zero db input i forgot (0dBu ata?). Pero ang resident expert natin na si Jojo tukayo ang magaling mag-explain jan with regards to setting.
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Reference level when using pro mixers is 0dBu which is approximately 0.775Vrms, this is more than enough for any home hi-fi amps.
Otoh, +4dBu is used mainly for gain structuring in studio and pro audio equipment. Most mixers/powered mixers have output capabilities for +4dBu so be very careful as you can easily overdrive the preceding stage (home hi-fi int amp, amp etc.) of your setup. Overdriven input sections can clip and cause your int amps/amps to exceed their operational limits.
Pro amps and guitar amps are exempted as they have protection diodes at the input that clamps the input voltage to safe levels. Some guitarists however, intentionally does this to make their own guitar distortion/tone.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 27, 2017 at 06:59 PM
Maraming salamat brader JojoD sa assist, matutuwa mga staff namin nito
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Anytime brader.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 27, 2017 at 07:18 PM
Ano ba volume settings nyo? Isama na rin natin ang echo/reverb.
Mine (sakura 733):
Main vol. : 11-12 o'clock
Source : 12 max and it varies depende sa recording (compressor/limiter is the answer, right Jo? 😁)
Delay : 11
Repeat : 9
Echo : 11 (can't go beyond kasi tunog baduy na, dapat swabe lang at swak yang 11 sa room)
Mic : +/-12 depende sa singer
EQ main : low 11 ; mid 12 ; hi 11
EQ mic : iba iba settings ng 3 mic depende sa boses.
Overall output dapat swabe at "tamed" lang para sa akin.
Kailangan ko talaga ng Compander but tyaga muna habang wala pang budget.
Post by: noob on Dec 27, 2017 at 08:26 PM
Ano po yung query ninyo?
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Bro, i am looking for cheaper updates ng TJ Media TKR 304P! Nasa P170.00 per month!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 27, 2017 at 08:27 PM
Bro, i am looking for cheaper updates ng TJ Media TKR 304P! Nasa P170.00 per month!Ang alam ko libre lang yan sa website nila
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 27, 2017 at 08:42 PM
Bro, i am looking for cheaper updates ng TJ Media TKR 304P! Nasa P170.00 per month!
ganyan ata talaga update nyan monthly base bawal ata skip pa dyan.
Post by: noob on Dec 27, 2017 at 09:57 PM
ganyan ata talaga update nyan monthly base bawal ata skip pa dyan.
Parang ganun yata talaga. About 2K a year sa 170/mo. So okay na pala yun binayad ko na 3.5K for 4years update. Thanks sirs,
Post by: noob on Dec 27, 2017 at 09:59 PM
Ang alam ko libre lang yan sa website nilaLibre nga po download pero di raw gagana kapag hinde bibile ng coin na 170php.
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:04 PM
Parang ganun yata talaga. About 2K a year sa 170/mo. So okay na pala yun binayad ko na 3.5K for 4years update. Thanks sirs,
maganda naman chief ang player na yan medyo magastos lang sa update. :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:13 PM
Libre nga po download pero di raw gagana kapag hinde bibile ng coin na 170php.Ah bago yung ganung requirement dati wala silang ganun.yan ang dahilan kung bakit kahit mas maganda tumunog ang tj e madaming platinum pa din ang pinipili. baka mas magandang bumili ka na lang ng bagong platinum kesa mag update ng tj mo.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:16 PM
Parang ganun yata talaga. About 2K a year sa 170/mo. So okay na pala yun binayad ko na 3.5K for 4years update. Thanks sirs,updated na pala. kung 4 years na sa yo yan talagang sulit ang tj sa tibay maganda pa tumunog hirap lang talaga mag update
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:16 PM
Parang ganun yata talaga. About 2K a year sa 170/mo. So okay na pala yun binayad ko na 3.5K for 4years update. Thanks sirs,sir tanong ko lang san kayo nag paupdate? not sure kung nagbago ngayong december pero alam ko may bulk update ang tj media, meaning pwedeng isang e-coin lang at hindi per month. 150php ang normal price. so kahit ilang taon, basta one time update 150 bayad.
sa platinum ang hindi pwede mag skip ng update sa hd series nila. 150php per month.
Post by: noob on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:32 PM
sir tanong ko lang san kayo nag paupdate? not sure kung nagbago ngayong december pero alam ko may bulk update ang tj media, meaning pwedeng isang e-coin lang at hindi per month. 150php ang normal price. so kahit ilang taon, basta one time update 150 bayad.
Sa OLX, dina bale charge na lang sa experience. Alamin ko na lang yun sinasabi nyo para future update ko. Thanks.
Post by: qguy on Dec 27, 2017 at 10:50 PM
As for phonic, I totally agree, I've used their pro equipment in quickie resto/bar setups before. Better quality build and parts, walang semento sa loob na pampabigat.
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 27, 2017 at 11:04 PM
Which brands puts concrete on their amps ?sa mga fake lang naman ako nakakita ng pics na may semento, pag orig wala.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 27, 2017 at 11:28 PM
Which brands puts concrete on their amps ?
I think it was a Konzert. Unfortunately, photobucket has held my photos hostage so no more pics.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 27, 2017 at 11:32 PM
sa mga fake lang naman ako nakakita ng pics na may semento, pag orig wala.
Nakapagbukas ako niyan dati meron talaga, naglipana kasi ang fake that even the shops did not know the fake from the real ones.
I do know for sure that a few electronics shops (even those outside Raon) got served with subpoenas and their fake stocks seized, even those for repair. Basta fake dinala lahat.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 28, 2017 at 01:15 AM
Post by: bhenard on Dec 28, 2017 at 06:06 AM
Looking po ako ng videoke player na component type pero wireless mic function..
Hassle kasi pag wired pa..lakas din makasira ng speaker,nambubulabog pa!
Gamit ko now is the old WOW Concerto Pro Magic Sing
(http://wowmagicmic.co.uk/images/D/Pro370b.jpg)
Gusto ko yung mas maraming entry kesa bumili pa ng chips nila na too pricey
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 28, 2017 at 06:32 AM
MGA BOSSING...Happy holiday poMay ganyan ang Platinum Alpha naman
Looking po ako ng videoke player na component type pero wireless mic function..
Hassle kasi pag wired pa..lakas din makasira ng speaker,nambubulabog pa!
Gamit ko now is the old WOW Concerto Pro Magic Sing
(http://wowmagicmic.co.uk/images/D/Pro370b.jpg)
Gusto ko yung mas maraming entry kesa bumili pa ng chips nila na too pricey
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Post by: bongerds on Dec 28, 2017 at 07:48 AM
Curious lang. Same channel ang nasisira? Have you checked your speakers din?
IME, matibay naman sakura/konzert amps pero ampao nga lang ang rating at mabilis mabasag ang tunog kung susundin yun advertised power rating. So use it by "ear", pag basag na atras ka na talaga sa volume.
As for phonic, I totally agree, I've used their pro equipment in quickie resto/bar setups before. Better quality build and parts, walang semento sa loob na pampabigat.
Bro, hindi ko na matandaan kung same channel. Ano ba possible issue sa speaker, shorted? Tumagal naman ng 3-5 years yun amp bago nasira. 11-12 lang din ang volume setting ko kasi sa loob ng bahay lang.
Thanks for the warning.
Post by: jackryan on Dec 28, 2017 at 09:47 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 28, 2017 at 09:54 AM
I have a Platinum Alpha that is broken... it works but the wireless distance is a dismal 2 feet... where can I have it repaired kaya?much better sir kung sa mismong service center ng platinum niyo dalhin. main nila sa raon sa may game extreme,
https://platinumkaraoke.ph/service-center/
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 28, 2017 at 12:02 PM
Bro, hindi ko na matandaan kung same channel. Ano ba possible issue sa speaker, shorted? Tumagal naman ng 3-5 years yun amp bago nasira. 11-12 lang din ang volume setting ko kasi sa loob ng bahay lang.
Thanks for the warning.
Unbeknownst to some, voice coils heat up during operation (especially bad with tweeters and midrange drivers) and overtime, develop shorts in the coil. They still work though, but their DC resistance drops and gets worse overtime. This is partly one of the reasons why there was a marketing heebie-jeebie about tweeters having so called "ferro fluids" that serves as coolant for the coils. Anyway, this provides a heavier load to your amps and will make them work harder. The bad thing here is that you'll never know until it's too late.
Nowadays, 3-5 years for an amp is "sulit" na and sometimes mas mura pa nga magpalit kaysa hassle ng magpa repair sa service centers. Ang kalokohan kasi nila diyan they use linear volume controls instead of logarithmic to make it seem so that kahit kaunti pa lang ang volume mapapa-wow ka na sa lakas. Ang problema, hanggang dun na lang yun, pag nilakas mo pa basag na ang tunog, in audiophile lingo - walang headroom.
Sana nga masupil na nilang lahat yan mga fake, hindi naman fake pinambabayad natin pag bumibili tayo eh.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 28, 2017 at 09:39 PM
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Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 28, 2017 at 10:55 PM
brader Jo maraming salamat sa tutorial tungkol sa mixer. Mapapag ipunan ko yung pangbili pero yung matutunan ang hirap hehehe
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Anytime brader (basta may time ;D). Peanuts lang sayo yan. Medyo steep lang sa umpisa ang learning curve pero pag natutunan mo naman ang tamang gamit baka ayaw mo na ng wala. ;)
I hope you heed my warnings, besides, there is only one way you would regret getting one and that is if you f@#k up the settings. ;D ;D ;D Sa umpisa lang yan, basic settings lang muna.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 28, 2017 at 10:58 PM
Anytime brader (basta may time ;D). Peanuts lang sayo yan. Medyo steep lang sa umpisa ang learning curve pero pag natutunan mo naman ang tamang gamit baka ayaw mo na ng wala. ;)Ah dont worry mag dial a friend naman ako. confirmed na yung bago modelo na phonic yung na quote sa akin.
I hope you heed my warnings, besides, there is only one way you would regret getting one and that is if you f@#k up the settings. ;D ;D ;D Sa umpisa lang yan, basic settings lang muna.
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Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 12:56 AM
Ah dont worry mag dial a friend naman ako. confirmed na yung bago modelo na phonic yung na quote sa akin.
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Ang bilis. Advance congrats brad!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 29, 2017 at 01:05 AM
Wala pa pupuntahan ko pa lang sa suking tindahan natin.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171228/7db42776ddff41e7aa6f78818934adc0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171228/14ba6643f8008f58d3d66642887a075a.jpg)
Ang bilis. Advance congrats brad!
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Post by: srkid on Dec 29, 2017 at 07:35 AM
Thanks!
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 10:52 AM
Gurus, good am. kaya ba i-control ng mixer un ibang songs na mas malakas ang sound? nakakabulaga kc biglang lalakas ang volume...
Thanks!
Mere mortal lang not a guru here.... Mixer alone = no. Pero mixer + gate/compressor = yes. Yan matagal ko na gustong gawin pero wala eh, buti pa project ng iba tao nagagawa ko. ;D ;D ;D
Ikakabit mo lang gate/compressor dun sa line signal coming from videoke player, the mics are better uncompressed. Yan eh kung marunong ang kumakanta, yun tipong nilalayo ang mic sa mouth during loud passages. Meron kasi kumakanta halos isubo yun mic. If that is the case, gating/compressing the whole can provide an insurance for your amp/speakers. Pwede mo na gamitin send/return or proc out ng mixer if ever ganyan connection.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 10:54 AM
Wala pa pupuntahan ko pa lang sa suking tindahan natin.
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Yan nasa pic yun may USB, ayaw ko niyan. Mas importante sa atin yun DFX brader, yun dapat ang 100% na meron sa model na kukunin mo.
Good luck, happy hunting.
Post by: srkid on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:03 AM
Mere mortal lang not a guru here.... Mixer alone = no. Pero mixer + gate/compressor = yes. Yan matagal ko na gustong gawin pero wala eh, buti pa project ng iba tao nagagawa ko. ;D ;D ;D
Ikakabit mo lang gate/compressor dun sa line signal coming from videoke player, the mics are better uncompressed. Yan eh kung marunong ang kumakanta, yun tipong nilalayo ang mic sa mouth during loud passages. Meron kasi kumakanta halos isubo yun mic. If that is the case, gating/compressing the whole can provide an insurance for your amp/speakers. Pwede mo na gamitin send/return or proc out ng mixer if ever ganyan connection.
Thanks sir Jojo for the reply.
So now what is the main benefit of adding a mixer in a karaoke system? I understand purpose of mixer is to control / manage multiple sound sources (eg musical instruments, mics). Tama po ba?
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:14 AM
Thanks sir Jojo for the reply.
So now what is the main benefit of adding a mixer in a karaoke system? I understand purpose of mixer is to control / manage multiple sound sources (eg musical instruments, mics). Tama po ba?
IMHO, some of the advantages I experienced were:
1. I can use more than two mics.
2. I can vary/control the tonal quality of each mic independently.
3. Obviously, I can use whatever brand of mic I have laying around. Branded or unbranded.
4. The onboard echo effects of videoke players are, well, just that. Echo echo echo echo....
5. I can vary the amount of dfx per mic too.
6. I can vary the levels of each mic independently as well as the minus one from the player.
7. As I mentioned on my other reply, a gate/compressor can be used for the music and limiters for the mics via send/return connection.
8. Pan. A versatile feature wherein you can play the music on one channel and the voices on another. I've tried this and it's fun but there needs to be a monitor speaker directly in front of the singer so that the singer can hear the minus one directly.
And many many more. Sakit na daliri ko mag type.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:15 AM
I understand purpose of mixer is to control / manage multiple sound sources (eg musical instruments, mics). Tama po ba?
I forgot to answer this. Yes tama naman din po ito sir.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:27 AM
O0
3. Obviously, I can use whatever brand of mic I have laying around. Branded or unbranded.
Dito ko lang nalaman as posted din earlier na namimili pala ng mic ang mga players.
Sakit na daliri ko mag type. Nyeahaha! Type pa more!
Post by: srkid on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:28 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:50 AM
"Look Daddy oh Behringer mic gamit ni Josh Groban!" or sometimes naman... "That must be a Shure cardioid microphone!"
Ninenerbiyos ako baka biglang magpabili. ;D
There are times family discussion be like:
"Daddy ano kaya klaseng plate reverb ginamit sa boses ni Phil Collins and Steve Perry? They sound synthesized no?"
Proud naman ako at least because of this videoke entertainment my kids and I have a common ground. Diyan pa lang sulit na. Hindi kasi ako maka-relate sa mga K-Pop topics nila eh. :o
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 11:52 AM
Many thanks sir Jojo. Very informative :)
You're welcome sir.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 29, 2017 at 01:02 PM
May DFX brader
Yan nasa pic yun may USB, ayaw ko niyan. Mas importante sa atin yun DFX brader, yun dapat ang 100% na meron sa model na kukunin mo.
Good luck, happy hunting.
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Post by: noob on Dec 29, 2017 at 01:11 PM
Funny thing about mics... I don't know if I'll be amazed or nervous when my unica hija watch DVD concerts and utter comments like...
"Look Daddy oh Behringer mic gamit ni Josh Groban!" or sometimes naman... "That must be a Shure cardioid microphone!"
Ninenerbiyos ako baka biglang magpabili. ;D
There are times family discussion be like:
"Daddy ano kaya klaseng plate reverb ginamit sa boses ni Phil Collins and Steve Perry? They sound synthesized no?"
Proud naman ako at least because of this videoke entertainment my kids and I have a common ground. Diyan pa lang sulit na. Hindi kasi ako maka-relate sa mga K-Pop topics nila eh. :o
Like Father, Like Daughter!!!
Sa amin: "Papa ang ingay naman ng music mo"
Basta hinde mga hip hop na tugtog eh maingay na agad.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 29, 2017 at 01:31 PM
May built in compressor na. http://www.phonic.com/mixers/celeus-200/
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 01:42 PM
Like Father, Like Daughter!!!
Sa amin: "Papa ang ingay naman ng music mo"
Basta hinde mga hip hop na tugtog eh maingay na agad.
Pati sa pagkain kung ano gusto ko siya din gusto nila LOL
Lately ako na nagtatanong sa kanila ng mga new song titles, hindi ko na nasusundan mga bago songs today.
Post by: srkid on Dec 29, 2017 at 03:38 PM
Wala pa ring nakagamit sa inyo nito?
May built in compressor na. http://www.phonic.com/mixers/celeus-200/
CELEUS 400 un dati kong tinarget... di natuloy hehe
Post by: praktikal on Dec 29, 2017 at 05:47 PM
CELEUS 400 un dati kong tinarget... di natuloy hehe
Tuluyan mo na hehehe...
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 29, 2017 at 05:48 PM
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cdBEVjnOL.jpg
Post by: srkid on Dec 29, 2017 at 05:52 PM
Tuluyan mo na hehehe...
Nakaka-lula ang controls e parang complicated lolz
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 05:57 PM
ako eto yung tinatarget ko sa mixer qx1204
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cdBEVjnOL.jpg
Ay type! ;D
Nakaka-lula ang controls e parang complicated lolz
Oo nga sir tama tuluyan mo na. ;D
Wag ka malula sa mga controls na yan. Parang babae lang yan sir. Kung ang lalaki isa lang ang switch ang mga babae sandamukal ang knobs and switches, pero once napaamo mo na, hayahay ka na for life. ;) >:D
Wag ka matakot andito naman kami.
Post by: praktikal on Dec 29, 2017 at 06:12 PM
Ay type! ;D
Oo nga sir tama tuluyan mo na. ;D
Wag ka malula sa mga controls na yan. Parang babae lang yan sir. Kung ang lalaki isa lang ang switch ang mga babae sandamukal ang knobs and switches, pero once napaamo mo na, hayahay ka na for life. ;) >:D HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Putukan na!!! O0
Wag ka matakot andito naman kami.
Tama, andito si master J to help. Once isa isa mo na maishoot solve na. Kahit sa dilim 3 points o dunk, sisiw. Di mo kailangang ilabas-pasok ang mga plugs, once naipasok mo na pirmi na yun dun at yung mga pinipihit naman, have a list o take some pics para di ka mawindang hehe...
Post by: TinkerTailor on Dec 29, 2017 at 06:33 PM
Pero pag may mixer medyobmaging non-factor.
Sir JojoD, what does DFX do?
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 06:42 PM
have a list o take some pics para di ka mawindang hehe...
Since I made my own mic cables (may mahaba kahit hanggang cr namin abot at may maiksi din para hindi hassle sa pagligpit) I used colored connectors like these.
(https://i.imgur.com/bYLkPWm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WktGxxp.jpg)
Very useful yan pag nagtitimpla ka, once you knowt the color of the mic being used alam mo agad kung nasaan column ka ng mixer mo gagalaw.
Kung tipid mode naman at ayaw magpalit ng connectors, or kung buo pa naman yun stock mic cables mo, punta ka lang sa mga old auto supply store, nakakabili ng different colored reflector stickers yun madalas ginagamit sa mga jeepney. Lagyan mo lang yun mic and yun corresponding TS plug ng mic hindi ka na maliligaw pa.
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 29, 2017 at 06:46 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 06:48 PM
I take back what I said about tj media 304p and platinum kapitan 2 having almost the same SQ. Malayong mas maganda ang sq ng tj. Pansin ito pag sa player isaksak ang mic.
Pero pag may mixer medyobmaging non-factor.
Sir JojoD, what does DFX do?
Sir, for the usual intents and purposes, ok na yun built in mic preamp and echo effects ng mga players. Magkakaproblema ka lang pag dalawang mic na ginamit mo lalu na pag magkaiba ng brand (branded or brandless it doesn't matter). Iisa lang kasi ang level control since naka summing amp lang yun dalawang mic preamps.
DFX = digital effects. Usually a microprocessor for simulating digital delay echo/reverb processing. Yun mga built-in, echo lang yan, hindi reverb. Pwede na din, pero pag nakasubok ka ng naka dfx processor para ka nasa bar or mini concert kumakanta. Sadly, you need a mixer to do that sir.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2017 at 06:50 PM
Post by: srkid on Dec 30, 2017 at 02:58 PM
ako eto yung tinatarget ko sa mixer qx1204
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51cdBEVjnOL.jpg
how much ito bro? parang di entry level :D
Post by: CeeV on Dec 30, 2017 at 03:45 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 30, 2017 at 08:03 PM
Sir...so ano yung EFX dun sa mixer, ano ang kaibahan pa nya sa DFX...
Actually iisa lang yan sir. Although DFX is the proper term since it's via digital processing. Nakasanayan na lang yun EFX since noon pa EFX na kasi ang tawag. Parang Send/Return, same lang sa Line In/Out except that you can vary the amount of signal you "send". The varying naman is coined as Wet/Dry Mix.
Dami dami lang kakaibang terms pero nothing new naman sir.
Yun naman types of effects, usual na yun 100 choices (00-99), iba iba,,, meron reverb, plate reverb, echo, hall, auditorium, etc etc etc. Wag mo na sir itanong sa akin kung ano ang kaibahan masakit na daliri ko mag type. ;D ;D ;D
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Which one is better ung EFX or ung DFX equipped mixer?
A separate DFX processor will always be better, pero nowadays nakikita ko sa mga nag se-setup sa mga bars puro built-in na sa mixer ang effects processor.
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 30, 2017 at 09:41 PM
Post by: frequenzy on Dec 30, 2017 at 09:47 PM
how much ito bro? parang di entry level :Dmaganda kasi yung effects niya, nasa 14k+ cguro yan. hehe!
Post by: CeeV on Dec 30, 2017 at 11:22 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 31, 2017 at 02:11 AM
kakadeliver lang ni lbc ng platinum vol 79 sd card for piano :) ordered via website, ready na sa kantahan tom.how much? 899 sa Game Extreme di ako kumuha eh namamahalan ako?
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Post by: frequenzy on Dec 31, 2017 at 06:42 AM
how much? 899 sa Game Extreme di ako kumuha eh namamahalan ako?950 kuha ko sir kasama delivery fee. napansin ko mahal kapag december, dahil cguro peak season. normally 650 lang price niya,
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Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 31, 2017 at 09:28 AM
Yooowwnn thanks Sir Jojo.....Happy singing na lang tom...HAPPY NEW YEAR👍😊
Wag iinom ng tubig na malamig pagkatapos kumanta ha... beer lang pwede. ;D ;D ;D
Happy New Year! God Bless
Post by: bongerds on Dec 31, 2017 at 10:18 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 31, 2017 at 10:26 AM
950 kuha ko sir kasama delivery fee. napansin ko mahal kapag december, dahil cguro peak season. normally 650 lang price niya,650 nga ang alam ko kaya di ako bumili eh. nagulat ako biglang 899 na.
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Post by: srkid on Jan 01, 2018 at 09:29 AM
Ano maganda na inexpensive wireless microphone? Hassle kasi yun corded.
Trident SN-U90, madami good feedback sa FB karaoke group...
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2018 at 07:40 AM
Totoo ba ito? Buwis buhay talaga ang kanta na yan. :(
http://kickerdaily.com/posts/2017/12/tondo-brgy-capt-sing-my-way-shot-dead-by-riding-in-tandem/
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 03, 2018 at 12:23 PM
Kumusta naman kayo? Malat pa din ba ang mga boses niyo? >:D >:D >:DAyaw kasi paawat yun Brgy. Captain sa asawa.
Totoo ba ito? Buwis buhay talaga ang kanta na yan. :(
http://kickerdaily.com/posts/2017/12/tondo-brgy-capt-sing-my-way-shot-dead-by-riding-in-tandem/
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Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2018 at 12:28 PM
Post by: praktikal on Jan 03, 2018 at 03:36 PM
Baka may magpanukalang isabatas na alisin na yang kantang yan sa mga karaoke ah, hehehe.
Nancy, pasok!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 03, 2018 at 04:09 PM
^Suicide song na yan. ;Dkinanto ko my way nung new year"s eve wala namang nag reklamo buhay pa naman ako hehehe.
eto ang palaging naka toka sa akin pag may kantahan
1. Lips of an Angel
2.Remember Me
3.Paano
4.Oras Na
5. Bakit Kung Sino Pa
6.Heaven
7.Harem Scarem songs
8. Faithfully
9.Torete
10.Akap
11. Ika'y Mahal Pa Rin
12.Superman
13.Sige
14.Salamat.
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Post by: praktikal on Jan 03, 2018 at 04:37 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:20 PM
^ wow biritero ka pala khoya!Pang videoke lang ang kaya.yung mga anak ko ang talagang pang laban ang talento
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Post by: jnazareta on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:22 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 03, 2018 at 05:23 PM
Ako din kinanta ko yan so far ok lang din ako. Depende din siguro sa situation. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: praktikal on Jan 03, 2018 at 06:03 PM
May move na daw for the videoke players to "ban" it from the playlist. Hindi naman daw sa superstitious sila pero mabuti na daw umiwas.
Ako din kinanta ko yan so far ok lang din ako. Depende din siguro sa situation. ;D ;D ;D
Nagkakataon lang yan pero iwas na lang din kantahin sa mga inuman na may kahalong di kilala.
Post by: srkid on Jan 03, 2018 at 07:41 PM
Anybody using platinum digital songbook? I find this very useful. lalo na sa mga samsung android phone users namely S4, S5, S6, Note 3 and Note 4. these samsung phones has a built-in IR and can be use as a remote control for your Platinum player.
I have this app in my LG G4, kaso konti galaw lang mali or failed na reserve function. So pang search lang bale...
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 03, 2018 at 08:07 PM
Anybody using platinum digital songbook? I find this very useful. lalo na sa mga samsung android phone users namely S4, S5, S6, Note 3 and Note 4. these samsung phones has a built-in IR and can be use as a remote control for your Platinum player.im using it pero dnt know about the IR tho. very useful indeed. Mas madaling mag lagay ng kanta sa reserved list
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Post by: frequenzy on Jan 03, 2018 at 10:05 PM
Anybody using platinum digital songbook? I find this very useful. lalo na sa mga samsung android phone users namely S4, S5, S6, Note 3 and Note 4. these samsung phones has a built-in IR and can be use as a remote control for your Platinum player.wala kasi android sa bahay, so ang gamit namin yung ios version, ok naman at mas madali mag search.
Post by: yapoy86 on Jan 05, 2018 at 10:17 AM
or mas ok pa din yung TJ or platinum brands?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 05, 2018 at 02:15 PM
guys.. any comment or reviews sa mediacom videoke player? via SD card ang gamit nito..Mga ilang taon ang nakalipas bumili kami ng mediacom para sa office we got 3 different models and sadly walang nag tagal duon. it may be different now pero di pa din ako mag gamble kung ako. the best pa din para sa akin ang platinum pag dating sa ease of use and durability. pag dating sa tunog mas lamang talaga si tj.
or mas ok pa din yung TJ or platinum brands?
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jan 05, 2018 at 02:46 PM
Mga ilang taon ang nakalipas bumili kami ng mediacom para sa office we got 3 different models and sadly walang nag tagal duon. it may be different now pero di pa din ako mag gamble kung ako. the best pa din para sa akin ang platinum pag dating sa ease of use and durability. pag dating sa tunog mas lamang talaga si tj.
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ok thanks.. baka will settle na lang sa TJ or Platinum.. medyo pricey lang si TJ..
regarding sa updates, ano naman ang mas OK, yung DVD updates or thru HDD?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 05, 2018 at 02:51 PM
ok thanks.. baka will settle na lang sa TJ or Platinum.. medyo pricey lang si TJ..
regarding sa updates, ano naman ang mas OK, yung DVD updates or thru HDD?
naka micro sd yung akin 899 ang bagong micro sd plug and play lang naman.yung dvd mas mura konti. depende na siguro sa pag gamit pero spa platinum fb page mas madalas yung issue na ayaw ng mag basa ng disc. sa sd card wala ako nabasa or hdd based
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Post by: frequenzy on Jan 05, 2018 at 02:51 PM
Mga ilang taon ang nakalipas bumili kami ng mediacom para sa office we got 3 different models and sadly walang nag tagal duon. it may be different now pero di pa din ako mag gamble kung ako. the best pa din para sa akin ang platinum pag dating sa ease of use and durability. pag dating sa tunog mas lamang talaga si tj.+1
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at this time, stick with Platinum and TJ media, since sila yung madalas mag update.
Post by: yapoy86 on Jan 05, 2018 at 02:55 PM
naka micro sd yung akin 899 ang bagong micro sd plug and play lang naman.yung dvd mas mura konti. depende na siguro sa pag gamit pero spa platinum fb page mas madalas yung issue na ayaw ng mag basa ng disc. sa sd card wala ako nabasa or hdd based
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sir, can you share the model you are using now? planning to set-up pang sala lang.. yung 7yo na anak ko eh gusto kumanta ng one call away
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 05, 2018 at 03:00 PM
ok thanks.. baka will settle na lang sa TJ or Platinum.. medyo pricey lang si TJ..TJ Media
regarding sa updates, ano naman ang mas OK, yung DVD updates or thru HDD?
SD/HD - all updates are done via ecoins, nasa 150-170 per month, sa ngayon pwede bulk update
Platinum
DVD - 350 to 400 per disc, every 3 months release
SD - 650 per sd card, this Dec price is 800, every 3 months release
HD - 150 per month, and hindi pwede magskip ng update, every 1 month release
For models, start checking yung midrange nila,
Platinum
Piano - SD
Kapitan 2 - DVD
X3 - HDD
TJ
Maestro - SD
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 05, 2018 at 03:06 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 05, 2018 at 03:10 PM
sir, can you share the model you are using now? planning to set-up pang sala lang.. yung 7yo na anak ko eh gusto kumanta ng one call awayPlatinum Piano yung sa akin.less than 6k ang kuha ko kung di ako nagkakamali. sa game extreme sa ronquillo st sa raon.so far so good.very handy kahit bitbitin sa ibang lugar madali(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180105/a5eb22c4ac8ce71eceeb10a33d246bb2.jpg)
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Post by: yapoy86 on Jan 05, 2018 at 04:52 PM
Platinum Piano yung sa akin.less than 6k ang kuha ko kung di ako nagkakamali. sa game extreme sa ronquillo st sa raon.so far so good.very handy kahit bitbitin sa ibang lugar madali(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180105/a5eb22c4ac8ce71eceeb10a33d246bb2.jpg)
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raon here i come.. hehehe meron din ako nakita na seller ng mediacom sa raon eh.. pero sold na ako dito sa platinum..
sayang naunahan ako dun sa sakura amp sa MP eh..
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 05, 2018 at 05:44 PM
raon here i come.. hehehe meron din ako nakita na seller ng mediacom sa raon eh.. pero sold na ako dito sa platinum..Ah oo nga mura yung pagkabenta nya. Ang gamit kong amp at speaker parehong konzert. 602r na amp at kss10 na speaker.
sayang naunahan ako dun sa sakura amp sa MP eh..
yung kss12 sa solid electronics makukuha yata ng 8.5k pares na yung kss10 ko 8.2k kuha ko sayang nga ang mura pala sa solid. ni refer ako ni jojod818 kay april. Mura din ang platinum sa kanya pero kung sa game extreme may free na mic na maganda naman kaya lumalabas na mas mura pa din kay game extreme.
happy hunting sir nakakaloko pumunta sa raon lahat mura parang gusto kung mamakyaw hahaha
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Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 09, 2018 at 07:51 PM
wala kasi android sa bahay, so ang gamit namin yung ios version, ok naman at mas madali mag search.updated na ba yung sa ios chief?
Post by: frequenzy on Jan 10, 2018 at 09:41 AM
updated na ba yung sa ios chief?updated naman up to vol 79, kaya ok pang search,
Post by: shoktongxxx on Jan 10, 2018 at 09:50 AM
updated naman up to vol 79, kaya ok pang search,Ah! Thanks di ko pa kasi na update yung sa ios namin.
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Post by: Ibosotts on Jan 22, 2018 at 05:49 PM
Kav 1400..... amp
PRXM12... speaker
kevler stand
grand videoke concierto
Thanks
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 22, 2018 at 07:44 PM
Just sharing My Videoke set up Kevler Brand ,nice!!
Kav 1400..... amp
PRXM12... speaker
kevler stand
grand videoke concierto
Thanks
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Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 27, 2018 at 04:04 PM
https://www.facebook.com/LeviArtInDesign/videos/1526632294099425/?hc_ref=ARSV7MZ6gSfRPTgwF_Bgnas-sx1hE-L8zFtakju5iH3LY3aPpiDpvz2LZhC71xnHg8Q
Post by: rulesmeister on Feb 13, 2018 at 05:14 PM
Ok ba ung "Kevler" amp na brand for videoke? If yes, anong model maganda? Im coming from a Konzert 502
Lastly, advisable ba ung Bluetooth mic for videoke? coming from classic wired-type mic :)
TIA!
Post by: frequenzy on Feb 13, 2018 at 05:25 PM
Bumigay na ung Konzert 502 videoke amp ko..anu yung current speaker niyo? you can check kevler gx5/gx7 at gx2000. also sakura 733/737
Ok ba ung "Kevler" amp na brand for videoke? If yes, anong model maganda? Im coming from a Konzert 502
Lastly, advisable ba ung Bluetooth mic for videoke? coming from classic wired-type mic :)
TIA!
regarding bluetooth mic, wala pa ko naririnig na ganun. mostly vhf/uhf kapag wireless. if you are after voice quality its wired over wireless, wireless is more of convenience po.
Post by: joealley8 on Feb 19, 2018 at 06:34 PM
Platinum Piano yung sa akin.less than 6k ang kuha ko kung di ako nagkakamali. sa game extreme sa ronquillo st sa raon.so far so good.very handy kahit bitbitin sa ibang lugar madali(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180105/a5eb22c4ac8ce71eceeb10a33d246bb2.jpg)Good day sir. Ask ko lang kung may Real Sound din ang Platinum piano as compared sa Tj Maestro? I'm choosing between the two kasi. TIA.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 19, 2018 at 06:53 PM
Good day sir. Ask ko lang kung may Real Sound din ang Platinum piano as compared sa Tj Maestro? I'm choosing between the two kasi. TIA.Magkaiba sila ng chip kung di ako nagkakamali mas maganda talaga tumunog ang TJ pero for my needs and the price happy na ako with the Piano madali pa mag update.
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Post by: joealley8 on Feb 19, 2018 at 07:36 PM
Magkaiba sila ng chip kung di ako nagkakamali mas maganda talaga tumunog ang TJ pero for my needs and the price happy na ako with the Piano madali pa mag update.I see pero hindi naman midi ang gamit ng piano sir? Wala kasing available dito sa amin na pwede ma audition. Online lang ako bibili.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 19, 2018 at 07:42 PM
I see pero hindi naman midi ang gamit ng piano sir? Wala kasing available dito sa amin na pwede ma audition. Online lang ako bibili.yung SAM something ang gamit ni piano pasensya na sir at di ko din kabisado.
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Post by: joealley8 on Feb 19, 2018 at 07:44 PM
yung SAM something ang gamit ni piano pasensya na sir at di ko din kabisado.I mean ang tunog ng accompaniment sa mga songs hindi midi? Pasensya sir medyo makulit.
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 19, 2018 at 07:49 PM
I mean ang tunog ng accompaniment sa mga songs hindi midi? Pasensya sir medyo makulit.Di na sir abot ng kaalaman ko yung mga yan sir. i suggest pm nyo si platinum ikanta mo sa fb page nila para mas sigurado ang sagot. or antay muna sa mga ibang members dito na mas pamilyar sa specifications ng platinum.
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Post by: joealley8 on Feb 19, 2018 at 07:50 PM
Di na sir abot ng kaalaman ko yung mga yan sir. i suggest pm nyo si platinum ikanta mo sa fb page nila para mas sigurado ang sagot. or antay muna sa mga ibang members dito na mas pamilyar sa specifications ng platinum.Ok sir. Again thanks.
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Post by: yapoy86 on Feb 19, 2018 at 09:15 PM
I mean ang tunog ng accompaniment sa mga songs hindi midi? Pasensya sir medyo makulit.
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Alam ko lahat yan MIDI based although kumbaga Hi-res na MIDI almost kagaya na ng minus one kasi complete na yung accompaniment
Yung signature ng MIDI sound ang nagdadala sa tunog ng videoke..
I have tried TJ and bought platinum piano.. i dont want to spend too much sa videoke eh. Maganda sa platinum since ssd based mabilis mag load at song access unlike sa dvd based model
Post by: frequenzy on Feb 24, 2018 at 08:27 AM
Good day sir. Ask ko lang kung may Real Sound din ang Platinum piano as compared sa Tj Maestro? I'm choosing between the two kasi. TIA.kung piano vs tj maestro, parehas sila ng sound module. lamang lang ng konti sa sound quality si maestro pero hindi nagkakalayo.
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kung sound quality then go for tj 305, high end yung chip nito.
Post by: ricky on Feb 24, 2018 at 08:37 AM
Yun wow at mga chip based sa sm maganda yun music nya hindi computer yun tunog.
May nagsabi sa akin yun karaoke sa youtube daw ok kasi real music talaga???? Paano yon?
Post by: frequenzy on Feb 24, 2018 at 12:43 PM
^real music ba yun platinum? Naka bili ako ng vivaus for a client, nun narinig nya yun music ibinalik sa box tapos hindi na ginamit. Medyo comedy yun sound as in parang piano lang.may mga kantang real sound din sa platinum pero konti lang. maganda rin talaga yung chip based gaya ng wow at grand videoke kaya lang napaka limited ng song selection at matagal yung updates.
Yun wow at mga chip based sa sm maganda yun music nya hindi computer yun tunog.
May nagsabi sa akin yun karaoke sa youtube daw ok kasi real music talaga???? Paano yon?
Post by: ricky on Feb 24, 2018 at 02:03 PM
Post by: joealley8 on Mar 05, 2018 at 10:13 AM
Alam ko lahat yan MIDI based although kumbaga Hi-res na MIDI almost kagaya na ng minus one kasi complete na yung accompanimentI finally decided on buying a Platinum Piano and i'm very satisfied with it. Mabilis talaga magload. Ok na rin yung sound output niya as compared to my DVD based player. Maraming salamat sa mga reply nyo.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180305/b3ac83523fa9c199fcb386b8595dab73.jpg)
Yung signature ng MIDI sound ang nagdadala sa tunog ng videoke..
I have tried TJ and bought platinum piano.. i dont want to spend too much sa videoke eh. Maganda sa platinum since ssd based mabilis mag load at song access unlike sa dvd based model
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Post by: frequenzy on Mar 06, 2018 at 10:33 AM
I finally decided on buying a Platinum Piano and i'm very satisfied with it. Mabilis talaga magload. Ok na rin yung sound output niya as compared to my DVD based player. Maraming salamat sa mga reply nyo.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180305/b3ac83523fa9c199fcb386b8595dab73.jpg)nice one sir!
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Post by: Tha_Mann on Oct 29, 2018 at 06:30 PM
iPad, MiBox connected to my Sony AVR and TV, mic connected to Konzert power amp & speakers.
sa iPad kami mag select ng songs (either play or queue muna) from YouTube, then i-cast namin sa MiBox. I decided to connect it to my AVR because mas maganda sound output. then yung voice eh sa power amp na lang.
hindi ko na nagagamit yung platinum videoke ko for almost a year na because of this set-up, no need to buy disc na kasi updated naman songs sa YT :)
Post by: JeromeA on Oct 29, 2018 at 08:24 PM
share ko lang simple videoke set-up ko, medyo napa bilib kamag anak ni esmi kasi hi-tech daw hehe.
iPad, MiBox connected to my Sony AVR and TV, mic connected to Konzert power amp & speakers.
sa iPad kami mag select ng songs (either play or queue muna) from YouTube, then i-cast namin sa MiBox. I decided to connect it to my AVR because mas maganda sound output. then yung voice eh sa power amp na lang.
hindi ko na nagagamit yung platinum videoke ko for almost a year na because of this set-up, no need to buy disc na kasi updated naman songs sa YT :)
sakin nga bro youtube sa cellphone tapos bluetooth mic solve na. hahahaha. kahit sa CR pwede kumanta.
Post by: frequenzy on Oct 29, 2018 at 11:31 PM
share ko lang simple videoke set-up ko, medyo napa bilib kamag anak ni esmi kasi hi-tech daw hehe.may specific youtube channel kayo ginagamit? nasubukan ko kasi dati to kaya lang madalas hindi maganda yung arrangement or minsan malayo talaga sa original.
iPad, MiBox connected to my Sony AVR and TV, mic connected to Konzert power amp & speakers.
sa iPad kami mag select ng songs (either play or queue muna) from YouTube, then i-cast namin sa MiBox. I decided to connect it to my AVR because mas maganda sound output. then yung voice eh sa power amp na lang.
hindi ko na nagagamit yung platinum videoke ko for almost a year na because of this set-up, no need to buy disc na kasi updated naman songs sa YT :)
Post by: Tha_Mann on Oct 30, 2018 at 06:58 AM
may specific youtube channel kayo ginagamit? nasubukan ko kasi dati to kaya lang madalas hindi maganda yung arrangement or minsan malayo talaga sa original.Accoustic Heaven & CoversPh yung madalas namin gamit. Pero minsan depende sa songs, madami na din kasi choices ngayon.
Post by: TinkerTailor on Oct 30, 2018 at 03:52 PM
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Post by: frequenzy on Mar 01, 2019 at 08:24 PM
napakalimited ng media capability ng karaoke players pagdating sa pagplay ng movies so it's not recommended. a less than 2k android box is miles ahead.
regarding setup, check the previous pages meron mga players na recommended. it all depends sa budget.
Post by: splucktearse on Mar 11, 2019 at 04:39 PM
Post by: praktikal on May 31, 2019 at 10:11 AM
Penge naman tips kasi plan ko magbuo na lang ng two-way k-speakers. Baka may suggestion kayo what brands maganda. For indoor & outdoor.
Share naman mga gawa nyo...
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jul 19, 2019 at 05:49 PM
This is what I use po...
(https://scontent-nrt1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/46523_4220425221131_672230451_n.jpg?oh=880463d08caed0663cee75f8ec02c7e6&oe=55EA7441)
It has a pad which you can use for low/high output mics, although it has phantom power I never use it since puro dynamic mics lang meron ako. There is a British type 3-band eq for the highs/mids/lows, a British type tone eq is a full-cut type eq where you can change the contour of each band or even fully cut it without varying the adjacent band.
There is also a 100-preset voice processor effects which I use instead of the built-in echo in the videoke player. My videoke player is connected as a line input that goes through a dedicated compressor, minsan kasi hindi pantay-pantay ang accompaniment, meron kanta na malakas ang background meron mahina, the compressor takes care of this.
The mixer has a send/return section for outboard effects, I use it to send the mics to a compander (compressor/expander) so that the mics are gated, pag mahina ang boses it compensates, kapag napalakas naman it compresses, so it doesn't make those nasty distortion sound. The blending is adjustable, it's up to you whether you like it wet or dry, the mixer has separate send/return settings for each mic inputs.
This is what I use for that... aside from the compression and expansion I was also able to squeeze in a BBE sonic maximizer inside.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg~original) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/jojod818/media/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg.html)
Yun output ng mixer goes to a diy amp and blasts a diy'd MTM floorstander.
Hope this helps.
Sir Jojo...
Quoting from your Post a few years ago ( 2015), Ano pong compressor/expander gamit nyo? DIY mo ba yun?
If it has a BBE na for the MIC signal, dapat ba naka-off na yung echo effects ng mixer?
Pasensya na, ngayon lang nabuhay interest to materialized this set-up..
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Jul 19, 2019 at 05:55 PM
Tahimik dito...
Penge naman tips kasi plan ko magbuo na lang ng two-way k-speakers. Baka may suggestion kayo what brands maganda. For indoor & outdoor.
Share naman mga gawa nyo...
Sir marami made na speaker from Konzert or Dai-ichi or Crown na pwede pang-indoor/outdoor. I assumed you have an amplifier na to match with it.
Post by: toonice on Jul 23, 2019 at 11:04 AM
May difference ba yung Konzert AV-502A and Konzert AV-502B? Dapat pa ba maging concerned pa ako kung ano pipiliin ko sa dalawa? Thanks!
Post by: frequenzy on Jul 23, 2019 at 12:52 PM
replied to your pm.
assuming original, box lang pinagkaiba nila. brown box yung 502B
502B - raon shops
502A - mall shops like western
Post by: toonice on Jul 23, 2019 at 04:14 PM
Natapos ko rin basahin yung buong thread, daming information dito parang gusto ko na rin samahan ng mixer pero di na kaya ng budget. To follow na lang para din may comparison sa performance with and without nung mixer.
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Aug 14, 2019 at 10:58 AM
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Post by: jnazareta on Feb 03, 2023 at 02:00 PM
Hi mga fellow Pinoydvd members,
Anyone po na nakapag availl nitong compander ni brother jojo?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/BBE%20Sonic%20Maximizer/DSC_0821.jpg~original)
Post by: nallasartal on Sep 18, 2023 at 03:07 PM
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 18, 2023 at 07:43 PM
I tried searching for the discussion on the best budget microphone for videoke but to no avail. Can anyone help me send a link on that discussion under this forum. Thanks in advancebudget? wired or wireless. wired is platinum pt-5000 less than 1k. wireless is platinum u20. 2k+
Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 18, 2023 at 08:54 PM
Post by: noob on Sep 19, 2023 at 12:32 AM
Post by: srkid on Sep 19, 2023 at 04:40 AM
The Samson Q7 mic at 1k+ is the cheapest high quality mic for me. Its quality is up there with Shure SM58.last check ko years ago around 2500 na ang Q7 ...
Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 19, 2023 at 08:18 AM
Hanap na lang ng legit sellers. It's still bang for the buck at 2500.
Post by: nallasartal on Sep 19, 2023 at 08:37 AM
Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 19, 2023 at 09:50 AM
Post by: nallasartal on Sep 19, 2023 at 10:12 AM
Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 19, 2023 at 10:31 AM
budget? wired or wireless. wired is platinum pt-5000 less than 1k. wireless is platinum u20. 2k+
I'd second this one for your use. Di naman kailangan gastos ng malaki para mag enjoy ng kantahan sa bahay.
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 19, 2023 at 03:50 PM
Trident SN-U90
Platinum U20
Platinum U40 - currently using
for budget, ok na yung U20. nasa 2k+. take note that you need aa batteries. white eneloop rechargable gamit ko and goods naman.
Post by: srkid on Sep 19, 2023 at 04:26 PM
samson Q7
platinum U40
Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 19, 2023 at 04:40 PM
sa wireless, options that we have tried
Trident SN-U90
Platinum U20
Platinum U40 - currently using
for budget, ok na yung U20. nasa 2k+. take note that you need aa batteries. white eneloop rechargable gamit ko and goods naman.
Mas ok ganito na AA batteries kesa yung built in na battery. Madali palitan pag ubos na ang power.
Post by: nallasartal on Sep 21, 2023 at 06:39 AM
Post by: nallasartal on Sep 21, 2023 at 09:05 AM
Post by: Tha_Mann on Sep 21, 2023 at 10:21 AM
Kung yung videoke machine i-connect sa TV thru HDMI port 1 and yung soundbar ko connected sa TV thru HDMI arc. Lalabas ba yung sound sa videoke to the soundbar since arc sya? O kailangan ko ikabit yung videoke machine to my soundbar? Yung soundbar ko kasi dalawa lang yung HDMI port and ang isa kinabit ko sa MIBOX ko...
gagana pareho yan options mo. sa soundbar ka din ba kaka bit ng mic? baka masira hehe not sure though.
sa akin kasi sa YT ang source ko ng videoke, then naka AVR ako for the audio and yung mic eh nasa isang amp.
Post by: synchro_01 on Sep 21, 2023 at 11:05 AM
Post by: frequenzy on Sep 21, 2023 at 11:07 AM
Kung yung videoke machine i-connect sa TV thru HDMI port 1 and yung soundbar ko connected sa TV thru HDMI arc. Lalabas ba yung sound sa videoke to the soundbar since arc sya? O kailangan ko ikabit yung videoke machine to my soundbar? Yung soundbar ko kasi dalawa lang yung HDMI port and ang isa kinabit ko sa MIBOX ko...not sure kung anu videoke mo, pero karaniwan wala sound yung hdmi, pang display lang talaga. you need the rca.
hindi din ok gamitin yung sound bar, kadalasan may delay yung boses. tapos kapag may napasigaw sa mic, malaki ang chance sira agad yan. hindi naman masaya kapag sasabihan mo yung kakanta na dapat mahina lang. hehe.
kaya sa videoke recommended yung pa speakers
Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 21, 2023 at 06:06 PM
gagana pareho yan options mo. sa soundbar ka din ba kaka bit ng mic? baka masira hehe not sure though.
sa akin kasi sa YT ang source ko ng videoke, then naka AVR ako for the audio and yung mic eh nasa isang amp.
Dalawa ang nabili kong videoke player dati (304 TJ Media, platinum). Ngayon di ko rin ginagamit.YouTube premium na lang.hehe
Post by: srkid on Sep 22, 2023 at 06:51 AM
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Post by: TinkerTailor on Sep 25, 2023 at 07:47 AM
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 25, 2023 at 07:22 PM
Just a few days ago, there was this simple birthday celebration for the daughter of my friend. So my friend set up this cheap small bluetooth speaker to which he connected a a Kevler wireless mic. Karaoke tracks was via YouTube. Needless to say, we all enjoyed singing our favorite videoke songs. That setup probably didn't even breach 5k pesos for cost.
Exactly. Kailangan mag-enjoy muna. e should be happy because we are singing and having fun with relatives. Secondary lang yun maayos "tumunog". But sometimes, accept it or not, Tayo, especially dito sa group, we wanted as much as possible, maganda tumunog.
Same reason why hindi tayo contento sa 45" tv with speakers. We wanted it big. We wanted so sound to be of good quality. etc. Haha!
Post by: jeff29jeff2002 on Sep 27, 2023 at 05:32 PM
Post by: Tha_Mann on Sep 29, 2023 at 11:01 AM
Post by: nallasartal on Nov 05, 2023 at 07:44 PM
sa wireless, options that we have tried
Trident SN-U90
Platinum U20
Platinum U40 - currently using
for budget, ok na yung U20. nasa 2k+. take note that you need aa batteries. white eneloop rechargable gamit ko and goods naman.
Salamat sa advise nito. I got U40 during lazada 10.10 for less than 4k... maganda yung mic
Post by: nallasartal on Nov 15, 2023 at 02:49 PM
Post by: frequenzy on Nov 15, 2023 at 03:09 PM
Did you check the volume? Both mics have different volume setting.
Post by: nallasartal on Nov 15, 2023 at 03:37 PM
^Ahh ok. Thanks
Did you check the volume? Both mics have different volume setting.