Author Topic: Surplus amps (Read 1020118 times)

rnb_zounds · « **Reply #1920 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 12:58 PM »

Well sir, it was humming coming from the body vibrating. Very low lang naman. No speakers. Will try to get the unit and have it checked. Oo nga pala, the fuse always blows. Would it be advisable to bring to Fil-Audio? With schematics naman in case wala silang copy.

Funny thing pricing surplus amps, mas mahal pa nga itong sansui kaysa don sa sony na vfet kc black face. Kahit mas mataas power rating noong sony.

Sir Rascal,

Okay yung Sony na vfet maganda pala tumunog ito. Surprisingly, kahit di gaano ka taas power rating niya, eh, kayang bumira ng mataas na volume. Parang di gaano nagamit kc pati yung mga RCA jacks sa likod, kahit inalis ko na yung oxidation, mahigpit parin, birhen pa

ika nga.

Ang parang minus lang eh, yung balance knob, hindi auto centering.

Yung base at treble ay step switch type eh so no problem. Ang maganda naman, meron siyang memory setting para sa volume. So pag meron kang preferred volume setting, e pwede mong i set yung mechanism doon, and every time you move the volume knob, it kinda snaps to that position.

Di ko pa nasubukan patugtugan ng plaka. Try ko sa sabado.

sandawa · « **Reply #1921 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 02:14 PM »

swerte ka. it's still selling up to $500 in US eBay. VFETs are hard-to-find type of gear anywhere. your unit should sound like an efficient/high-power tube amp (the Japs stopped producing VFETs -- known as solid state valve sounding amps -- before the Americans and the Brits could catch up.) i-register mo ang serial number kay axel (The Vintage Knob). ingat sa gamit, pag nasira yan almost junk na raw.

rnb_zounds · « **Reply #1922 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 02:45 PM »

Thanks for the info sir Sandawa, Meron kaibahan ang tunog niya as against my Sansui's and my other Sony. Parang airy na masarap naman pakinggan. Will do what you suggest sir sa Vintage Knob at aalagaan ko to. Again thanks.

sandawa · « **Reply #1923 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 02:56 PM »

I post mo kaya sa Audio Karma, sabihin mo $30 lang ang presyo ng good condition TA-5650 dito sa Pinas

, palagay ko, daming magpapadala sa 'yo ng PM para magpabili!

sobrang mura nyan. i bought my Yamaha B-3 (70wpc rms/8 ohms) at P5K dito sa Davao and i thought it was a bargain!

rascal101 · « **Reply #1924 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 03:19 PM »

Sir Ryan,

Bisita naman ako diyan sa inyo sometime this Dec para madinig iyung VFET.

parasmi · « **Reply #1925 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 04:36 PM »

great find at a great price, sir rnb

Although it wouldn't qualify as an amplifier on this thread, share ko din yung jackpot ko last weekend....

Pioneer SPEC-1 pre-amp at a bargain price of 3K

rnb_zounds · « **Reply #1926 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 04:59 PM »

Ganda naman niyang SPEC-1 mo sir Parasmi! Me partner na power amp na ba yan?

Been looking for Pioneer din kaya lang no luck pa ako sa ngayon.

Sir Rascal,

Baka kung okey sa iyo, dalhin ko sa inyo para ma test mo sa rig mo. Malayo kasi yung amp, sa Antipolo pa, pero pwede ko dalhin dito sa Meycauayan. Dehins lang kc pwede ang outsider at nasa loob ako ng pabrika. Kaya dalhin ko dyan sa iyo para mapakinggan mo sa setup at sounds mo pa o di ba?

rnb_zounds · « **Reply #1927 on:** Dec 04, 2006 at 05:26 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Dec 04, 2006 at 02:56 PM

I post mo kaya sa Audio Karma, sabihin mo $30 lang ang presyo ng good condition TA-5650 dito sa Pinas , palagay ko, daming magpapadala sa 'yo ng PM para magpabili!

sobrang mura nyan. i bought my Yamaha B-3 (70wpc rms/8 ohms) at P5K dito sa Davao and i thought it was a bargain!

Heeeheee! Sigurado sir Sandawa!

rascal101 · « **Reply #1928 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 12:51 AM »

No problem Sir rnb_zounds. Dalhin mo dito iyun VFET mo para masubukan. Txt txt na lang tayo kung ano date and time.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #1929 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 07:04 AM »

Quote from: rnb_zounds on Dec 04, 2006 at 12:58 PM

Well sir, it was humming coming from the body vibrating. Very low lang naman. No speakers. Will try to get the unit and have it checked. Oo nga pala, the fuse always blows. Would it be advisable to bring to Fil-Audio? With schematics naman in case wala silang copy.

Fuse will alway blow because the fault that caused it hasn't been corrected. I don't know about Fil-Audio, but since it has a schematic, any veteran techie should be able to diagnose and repair it properly.

sandawa · « **Reply #1930 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 07:39 AM »

Quote from: rnb_zounds on Dec 04, 2006 at 02:45 PM

Thanks for the info sir Sandawa, Meron kaibahan ang tunog niya as against my Sansui's and my other Sony. Parang airy na masarap naman pakinggan. Will do what you suggest sir sa Vintage Knob at aalagaan ko to. Again thanks.

I'm an SS guy who likes dynamic and loud music, not very fond of tube sound. But I also want to hear valve gear sometimes (I still have two tube amps, thus I could compare) and the VFET is an option. My impression is that it sounds distinct, comparatively thinner -- medyo manipis tumunog, approximating valve's "sweetness", which some describe as "coloration." Almost all VFET users in Audio Karma have the same observation, by the way.

I have received offers from AK members wanting to buy my VFET power amp, as high as $500 (freight charges on them), and I was almost tempted early this year to say yes. However, I found the proper match to it a few months back: An Onkyo p306 preamp and a pair of Denon SC-104 vintage speakers. Very nice sounding combination.

muypogi · « **Reply #1931 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 08:56 AM »

Hi guys. Just stumbled onto this thread. Can I get directions/tips/hints on how to go to these surplus shops? I'm interested in these old-skool amps, and more recently old-skool speakers. I was listening to my father in law's old-skool JBL studio monitors, and I was wondering if these shops carry those old JBL/Boston monitors (the three-way ones).

If I can find those monitors, I might just sell my Diamond 9.1 set and stands. . .

Thanks in advance!

denmej · « **Reply #1932 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 10:27 AM »

tanong lang po ng isang baguhan,

still have a kenwood amp from mid 80's or try to score a surplus amp.
ma incorporate ko ba to if am trying to set up is 5.1/6.1 HT?
kase di ba dami channels para sa 5.1/6. i
gnoramus pa lang po.
tnx

av_phile1 · « **Reply #1933 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 11:10 AM »

HT amps of the late 80s are PRO-LOGIC amps that just simulate 4 channels into 4 amps (except for some flagship models that have 5 separate amps) - Left, Right, Center and Surround which makes use of two speaker connections. You won't be able to enjoy the discrete 5 channels of DVD sources, but you can still play them in stereo mode and then swtiching the receiver to prologic mode to simulate 4 channels.

denmej · « **Reply #1934 on:** Dec 05, 2006 at 03:12 PM »

Quote from: av_phile1 on Dec 05, 2006 at 11:10 AM

HT amps of the late 80s are PRO-LOGIC amps that just simulate 4 channels into 4 amps (except for some flagship models that have 5 separate amps) - Left, Right, Center and Surround which makes use of two speaker connections. You won't be able to enjoy the discrete 5 channels of DVD sources, but you can still play them in stereo mode and then swtiching the receiver to prologic mode to simulate 4 channels.

salamat po dami sa sagot.

qguy · « **Reply #1935 on:** Dec 06, 2006 at 09:15 AM »

how much ang mga "130 watts" na amp sa pier ... yung 130 ang power consumption..hehehe

anyone knows the number ng Little Chatty ?

shuttertrigger · « **Reply #1936 on:** Dec 06, 2006 at 12:27 PM »

Quote from: qguy on Dec 06, 2006 at 09:15 AM

how much ang mga "130 watts" na amp sa pier ... yung 130 ang power consumption..hehehe

anyone knows the number ng Little Chatty ?

Little Chatty - 5260619
Cell no. - 09184423309; 09192141252

lmhp23 · « **Reply #1937 on:** Feb 07, 2007 at 03:11 PM »

you guys might want to check this out. this site has a list of japanese audio gear with pics and model year, some have list prices. altavista translator doesn't work on this site though.

http://www.geocities.jp/freak_audio/AMP.htm

hope to get one of those NEC A-10 or A-11 one of these days.

aHobbit · « **Reply #1938 on:** Feb 09, 2007 at 02:40 PM »

Quote from: lmhp23 on Feb 07, 2007 at 03:11 PM

you guys might want to check this out. this site has a list of japanese audio gear with pics and model year, some have list prices. altavista translator doesn't work on this site though.

http://www.geocities.jp/freak_audio/AMP.htm

hope to get one of those NEC A-10 or A-11 one of these days.

...
Maganda ba NEC A10?

... Its my cherished (PHP 4000) treasure - a NEC A-10II - 26kgs / dual monoblock / all alpha pots - walang kupas ang mga controls

southpeak · « **Reply #1939 on:** Feb 12, 2007 at 09:23 PM »

surplus hunters' wish list??? just point and click everything

enjoy

orig japanese web site:
http://homepage2.nifty.com/2001odakun0801/subdtest.html

babelfish:
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ja_en&url=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage2.nifty.com%2F2001odakun0801%2Fsubdtest.html

lmhp23 · « **Reply #1940 on:** Feb 14, 2007 at 10:52 PM »

@southpeak:

nice find bro, thanks!

oweidah · « **Reply #1941 on:** Feb 16, 2007 at 05:46 PM »

tnx to sir parasmi i found what ive long been looking for (jap version of the renowned pioneer a-400 int.amp of the 90s.)

Pioneer A-UK3 ¥45,000 (1993 sale)

Thursday July 20, 2006
Hi-Fi that Rocked the World
In May 2006, Hi-Fi Choice's reviewers sat round an email client program and between them came up with the 50 most important hi-fi components ever sold in the UK. The results were published in an award-winning supplement Hi-Fi that Rocked the World. If you missed it, here's the top ten:

1. Linn Sondek LP12 turntable
2. NAD 3020 integrated amplifier
3. Quad Electrostatic loudspeaker
4. Rega Planar 3 turntable
5. Pioneer A400 integrated amplifier
6. B&W Nautilus 801 loudspeaker
7. BBC LS3/5a loudspeaker
8. Marantz CD-63 MkII KI Signature CD player
9. Garrard 301 turntable
10. Wharfedale Diamond loudspeaker

sandawa · « **Reply #1942 on:** Feb 16, 2007 at 08:30 PM »

Hala ka Rene, ang alam ko kukunin ni Parasmi yan. I also got one like that here in Davao two weeks ago and posted it immediately at Audio Karma. I was also lucky with another vintage gem last week: an NEC A-10 Type IV.

oweidah · « **Reply #1943 on:** Feb 16, 2007 at 09:41 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Feb 16, 2007 at 08:30 PM

Hala ka Rene, ang alam ko kukunin ni Parasmi yan. I also got one like that here in Davao two weeks ago and posted it immediately at Audio Karma. I was also lucky with another vintage gem last week: an NEC A-10 Type IV.

si parasmi nga ang nag-tip sa akin. baka ayaw niya kasi walang nakalagay na "simple and straight"

pioneer a-uk3 is either the jap version of the a-400 or a-400x, whatever, oks lang

btw, its got 2 sets of speaker terminals marked for biwiring - the top set-HF, the lower set-LF.

got it for 2.1k pero sira yung power button (always ON) no big deal.

tnx mike!

sandawa · « **Reply #1944 on:** Feb 17, 2007 at 07:58 AM »

you're a very lucky guy. for that price, what you got is the A-400 equivalent: http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/a400.htm

oweidah · « **Reply #1945 on:** Feb 17, 2007 at 12:08 PM »

Quote from: sandawa on Feb 17, 2007 at 07:58 AM

you're a very lucky guy. for that price, what you got is the A-400 equivalent: http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/a400.htm

sandawa,

idol, tnx!

worth the long wait, early 90s nakita ko a400 & a400x dito sa pioneer raon showroom, selling for 9k yata. i had the nad304 that time so pinalampas ko along with the 300R precision. nabasa ko din during that time yung rave reviews ng a400 and the mixed reactions to the a400x. sana may maligaw na nad3020 at audiolab 8000

av_phile1 · « **Reply #1946 on:** Feb 17, 2007 at 01:28 PM »

So many gems among surplus stuff if people recognize it when they see one.

southpeak · « **Reply #1947 on:** Feb 17, 2007 at 09:00 PM »

congratulation oweidah..
talaga palang matagal nyo ng hanap yang model na yan ano. you were willing to go as much as five digits last year..

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=36115.0

honeycomb narin pala heat sink nyan..

2.1k? idol..

oweidah · « **Reply #1948 on:** Feb 18, 2007 at 07:01 AM »

Quote from: southpeak on Feb 17, 2007 at 09:00 PM

congratulation oweidah..
talaga palang matagal nyo ng hanap yang model na yan ano. you were willing to go as much as five digits last year..

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=36115.0

honeycomb narin pala heat sink nyan..

2.1k? idol..

tnx southpeak
hehehe muntik na kumagat sa mansanas

2.2k po kasama na pamasahe at pop cola.

eto ang idol ko! hebigatz

may marantz at celestion pa. backbreakers nga lang for an oldie like me pero kung may matsambahan dami naman kargador sa pier hehehe

may sansui au7700 din doon 2.8k initial offer ni banker este seller
this one could be the another real steal esp if deal @2.5k or less.

oweidah · « **Reply #1949 on:** Feb 18, 2007 at 07:46 AM »

Quote from: sandawa on Feb 17, 2007 at 07:58 AM

you're a very lucky guy. for that price, what you got is the A-400 equivalent: http://www.gbaudio.co.uk/data/a400.htm

sandawa,

medyo nalilito ako sa a-uk3 / a-uk3ii & a-400 / a400x

sa pictures dito =>kamuka ng a-400x ang a-uk3 ko
http://www.hifigoteborg.se/photo%20arkiv%20amplifiers/photo%20arkiv%20amplifiers/PIONEER_A_400X_detail.htm
http://www.hifigoteborg.se/photo%20arkiv%20amplifiers/photo%20arkiv%20amplifiers/PIONEER_A_400X_BAK_detail.htm

if the a-uk3 = a400x, & a-uk3ii = a400 it seems the pairing isnt quite matched. usually mark2 versions come after the orig. in this case i assume a-uk3 is the orig and a-uk3ii is the succeeding version. since the a-400 was released before the a-400x so it should correspond to the a-uk3, rite?

dito=>30wpc/8ohms ang a-uk3, di ba a-400 & a-400x around 50wpc?
http://www11.plala.or.jp/teikakakucosme/PIONEER-EXCLUSIVE/amp/a-uk3.html

nalito din si parasmi kasi iba daw yata yung nakita nya a-uk3ii may isang set ng speaker terminals. so mukang dalawang units ang lumabas, at may isa pang sinuerte sa pier

anyway, bottomline, im enjoying the a-uk3 now. simple and straight just like the minimalist MF & other bloody effing limey amps of yore

cheers!