Author Topic: Flac (Read 8279 times)

Dollarman · « **on:** Dec 29, 2012 at 09:29 PM »

Mga sirs what app do you use to rip your CDs to flac? I have xAct but don't know which settings to use...

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #1 on:** Dec 29, 2012 at 09:34 PM »

dbpoweramp

Dollarman · « **Reply #2 on:** Dec 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 29, 2012 at 09:34 PM

dbpoweramp

any setting i should use? thanks

toys4geeks · « **Reply #3 on:** Dec 29, 2012 at 10:31 PM »

THere a way to rip mkv audio to flac in 5.1 format (if there's such?).

i wanted to cut portions of a film and play em as tracks ?

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #4 on:** Dec 29, 2012 at 10:40 PM »

Quote from: dollarman on Dec 29, 2012 at 10:04 PM

any setting i should use? thanks

encoding - loseless uncompressed

brader JIM - no idea for that...

brader stagea - yuhooooooooooooooo

khumpleetist · « **Reply #5 on:** Dec 30, 2012 at 07:18 PM »

I use Winamp.

After you've loaded the CD you need to open Media Library if it is not yet opened.

Choose the CD drive where you've inserted the CD and the song list will show.

Click on Rip then select CD ripping preferences.

Choose FLAC on the drop down list on the Encoder tab. You can also configure the Compression factor (Fast Encoding vs Best Compression). I usually choose the Best Compression option.

Hope this helps.

Arulco · « **Reply #6 on:** Dec 30, 2012 at 11:46 PM »

I use EAC (Exact Audio Copy). Its a real pain in the ass to setup though.

XLD for Macs.

Dollarman · « **Reply #7 on:** Dec 30, 2012 at 11:53 PM »

Quote from: khumpleetist on Dec 30, 2012 at 07:18 PM

I use Winamp.

After you've loaded the CD you need to open Media Library if it is not yet opened.

Choose the CD drive where you've inserted the CD and the song list will show.

Click on Rip then select CD ripping preferences.

Choose FLAC on the drop down list on the Encoder tab. You can also configure the Compression factor (Fast Encoding vs Best Compression). I usually choose the Best Compression option.

Thanks sir I was stumped with the compression factor, flac being lossless...I was thinking if i could get away with a fast encode and whether it still affects quality

Hope this helps.

khumpleetist · « **Reply #8 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 12:04 AM »

Quote from: dollarman on Dec 30, 2012 at 11:53 PM

Thanks sir I was stumped with the compression factor, flac being lossless...I was thinking if i could get away with a fast encode and whether it still affects quality

I'm also asking the same thing, but being a lossless file I think setting it to the Best Compression setting is the way to go. And I don't have any idea if it would affect the quality if you chose Fast Encoding.

javauser · « **Reply #9 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM »

According to a blind test made by lifehacker, the difference between flac and 192kbps mp3 is negligible.

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #10 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 07:38 AM »

Quote from: javauser on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM

According to a blind test made by lifehacker, the difference between flac and 192kbps mp3 is negligible.

thats small difference(negligible) is BIG Difference for audiophile

192kbps hehe..320naman wala nabang mas mataas na bitrate hihihi

javauser · « **Reply #11 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 09:49 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 07:38 AM

thats small difference(negligible) is BIG Difference for audiophile

192kbps hehe..320naman wala nabang mas mataas na bitrate hihihi

Younhear the difference bro?

≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ · « **Reply #12 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 09:54 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 07:38 AM

thats small difference(negligible) is BIG Difference for audiophile

192kbps hehe..320naman wala nabang mas mataas na bitrate hihihi

Audiophile ka na kaya dinig mo na. hahaha

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #13 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 09:54 AM »

sa HT parang
DTS vs DTS-HDMA

ung sobrang talas ng tenga...
rinig nila difference ng ORIGINAL CD sa COPY CD na same ang laman...

≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ · « **Reply #14 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 09:55 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 09:54 AM

sa HT parang
DTS vs DTS-HDMA

ung sobrang talas ng tenga...
rinig nila difference ng ORIGINAL CD sa COPY CD na same ang laman...

Di ba matalas pandinig mo?

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #15 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 09:55 AM »

Quote from: xrampage on Dec 31, 2012 at 09:55 AM

Di ba matalas pandinig mo?

si KA ERNIE ang matalas ang tenga...

≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ · « **Reply #16 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 09:56 AM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 09:55 AM

si KA ERNIE ang matalas ang tenga...

Kala ko matalas na pandinig mo. Audiophile na tatawag ko sa iyo.

ronnel0918 · « **Reply #17 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 10:01 AM »

The ever reliable DBPoweramp.

Stagea · « **Reply #18 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 10:11 AM »

Quote from: toys4geeks on Dec 29, 2012 at 10:31 PM

THere a way to rip mkv audio to flac in 5.1 format (if there's such?).

i wanted to cut portions of a film and play em as tracks ?

Yes, you can demultiplex the file then decode the demuxed audio track for re-encoding to flac.

Dollarman · « **Reply #19 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM »

im getting more confused here...hehe. so a 192 or 320 mp3 is more or less same lang with a flac encoded at best compression? how about the file sizes. i just made a first flac encode and the files were typically 30 to 34mb. tama ba?

raider125jeigh · « **Reply #20 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM »

Quote from: dollarman on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:52 PM

im getting more confused here...hehe. so a 192 or 320 mp3 is more or less same lang with a flac encoded at best compression? how about the file sizes. i just made a first flac encode and the files were typically 30 to 34mb. tama ba?

nope

usually 44-45MB ung 0%
WAV doble...

Dollarman · « **Reply #21 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 01:04 PM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM

nope

usually 44-45MB ung 0%
WAV doble...

naka best compression na sya sir..btw im using flac and xact (mac)...both were consistent with the file sizes...cd original file was 43mb or so.

khumpleetist · « **Reply #22 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 01:06 PM »

Quote from: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:55 PM

nope

usually 44-45MB ung 0%
WAV doble...

Hindi ako sigurado dito pero hindi ba depende pa rin yan sa haba ng audio file? Syempre kapag maiksi at na-convert sa FLAC eh maliit din.

Pati tuloy ako napapadalawang isip sa mga na-convert ko kahit asa "best setting" na for ripping gamit ang Winamp.

Parang gusto ko na tuloy mag back-up in WAV format para talagang lossless.

Ako eh hindi naman audiophile pero gusto ko lang gawan ng lossless back-up ang mga CD ko just in case. Sa 128kbps eh masaya na ko pero iba pa rin yung may back-up ng original.

Dollarman · « **Reply #23 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 01:34 PM »

Quote from: khumpleetist on Dec 31, 2012 at 01:06 PM

Hindi ako sigurado dito pero hindi ba depende pa rin yan sa haba ng audio file? Syempre kapag maiksi at na-convert sa FLAC eh maliit din.

Pati tuloy ako napapadalawang isip sa mga na-convert ko kahit asa "best setting" na for ripping gamit ang Winamp.

Parang gusto ko na tuloy mag back-up in WAV format para talagang lossless.

Ako eh hindi naman audiophile pero gusto ko lang gawan ng lossless back-up ang mga CD ko just in case. Sa 128kbps eh masaya na ko pero iba pa rin yung may back-up ng original.

tama bro. dati puro mp3 mga backup ko sa cds not until i discovered about how lossless flac is. kaya starting from scratch again. want to do it right this time kaya ang kulit ko.

just looking at all those cds to rip again makes me want to believe that mp3s are on par with flac hehe

khumpleetist · « **Reply #24 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 02:13 PM »

Quote from: dollarman on Dec 31, 2012 at 01:34 PM

tama bro. dati puro mp3 mga backup ko sa cds not until i discovered about how lossless flac is. kaya starting from scratch again. want to do it right this time kaya ang kulit ko.

just looking at all those cds to rip again makes me want to believe that mp3s are on par with flac hehe

Okay lang yan. Ako din eh nagiging makulit na rin dahil sa reply ni raider125jeigh na 44mb-45mb yung lossless na FLAC. So ibig sabihin eh walang kuwenta kahit anong setting ang gawin ko sa pag-rip dahil hindi din lossless kaya nga napapaisip ako na WAV na lang yung back-up ko eh. Dapat malinawan tayo dito.

javauser · « **Reply #25 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 02:25 PM »

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2012/06/concluding-the-great-mp3-bitrate-experiment.html

To quote

"The data from this experiment confirms what I thought all along: for pure listening, the LAME defaults of 192kbps variable bit rate encoding do indeed provide a safe, optimal aural bang for the byte – even dogs won't be able to hear the difference between 192kbps VBR MP3 tracks and the original CD."

Dollarman · « **Reply #26 on:** Dec 31, 2012 at 05:22 PM »

any other inputs from the audio gurus here?

Arulco · « **Reply #27 on:** Jan 01, 2013 at 02:27 PM »

Try out the A/B/X blind testing component of foobar2000.

I've done some extensive testing on it a while back and I was able to correctly identify FLAC from MP3s for approximately about 50% of a random selection of a lot of music. I've come to the conclusion that certain songs do sound lossless in FLAC while others will sound no different from MP3s. The most noticeable difference is with the higher frequency instruments such as the cymbals and high hats which tend to have artifacts with lossy encoding. There also seems to be a bit more airyness with lossless audio with some musical recordings.

You will have to listen intently to tell the differences. For everyday listening on any sound system I do agree that MP3s are good enough and that lossless is best for critical listening and archival purposes.

av_phile1 · « **Reply #28 on:** Jan 01, 2013 at 02:39 PM »

Quote from: javauser on Dec 31, 2012 at 12:17 AM

According to a blind test made by lifehacker, the difference between flac and 192kbps mp3 is negligible.

How true.

Reminds me of another blind test I read a few years back on whether so-called audiophiles can distinguish CD music from a 320 mp3 file. A song would be played and announced as coming from a CD and a minute later, the same song would be played and announced as an MP3 file. 70% of the respondents said they heard sonic differences. The tester took the results as it was which proved his hypothesis. He did not have the heart to reveal that all the while, he was playing 192 mp3 files throughout the test.

It was a thesis for a master's degree. And the title was: The psychology of biased perception in consumer behaviour.

stilljey · « **Reply #29 on:** Jan 08, 2013 at 02:07 PM »

i use EAC to rip my cd's to flac.