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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #120 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 01:33 AM »
magulo na usapan sa source at panel dagdagan pa ng video card or player naku naloko na
sir ayns pwede pa open ulit ng problem with some member thread ;D
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #121 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 08:47 AM »
magulo na usapan sa source at panel dagdagan pa ng video card or player naku naloko na
sir ayns pwede pa open ulit ng problem with some member thread ;D
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Sakto ikaw ang una ko rereklamo dun.. hahahaha
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #122 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 01:16 PM »
Sakto ikaw ang una ko rereklamo dun.. hahahaha

personally kasi feel ko same lang... pero hehe ikaw nagclaim.. amd better video.. hehe..
sir... wag niyo po masamain.. hindi po hirit yan...
challenge yan.. if you can really point out which is amd which is intel... best of 5 or 10 para... medyo maganda ang data... hehe

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #123 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 04:57 PM »
personally kasi feel ko same lang... pero hehe ikaw nagclaim.. amd better video.. hehe..
sir... wag niyo po masamain.. hindi po hirit yan...
challenge yan.. if you can really point out which is amd which is intel... best of 5 or 10 para... medyo maganda ang data... hehe


di ko naman minasama... hahaha sa kabilang thread un tapos dinala dito.. Its that big deal to you? hihi

Natawa lang ako... hahaha
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #124 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 05:05 PM »
For me, the difference is psychological/mental/whatever- knowing you have a 1080p will seem like your brain is convincing your eyes are actually seeing better images.

But if two sets (both 42 inches) where one is 720p and one is 1080p are used to play the same material that is 1080p and shown to ordinary joes and you tell them that the 720p one is the 1080p and vice versa, chances are they'll tell you they are seeing better images in the 720p set.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #125 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 05:29 PM »
Magkatabing-magkatabing identical 42 inch 1080p sets playing 720p and 1080p encode of the same content and at the same settings -  there is a fair chance na malalaman mo which one is the 1080p.   I think.  Kaso sinong may ganitong set-up sa bahay?   ;D

So ano pa rin ang meaning ng thread title?   ;D.  WAKARANAI!   ;D

But if two sets (both 42 inches) where one is 720p and one is 1080p are used to play the same material that is 1080p and shown to ordinary joes and you tell them that the 720p one is the 1080p and vice versa, chances are they'll tell you they are seeing better images in the 720p set.
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #126 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 05:47 PM »
Pagtabihin mo yung 720p na 10gb file versus a 1080p with a 1.5GB file of the same movie, which would look better on a 42-inch 3 ft away?

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #127 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 05:55 PM »
of course yung 10GB.  Just look at the sample pics ng low bitrate Taken 2 1080p Web DL vs proper 720p encoded Taken 2 na 7.3GB.  Encode of an encode vs encode of a Bluray master source - Thats not fair.

 

Pagtabihin mo yung 720p na 10gb file versus a 1080p with a 1.5GB file of the same movie, which would look better on a 42-inch 3 ft away?


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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #128 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 06:22 PM »
In short, it's the file size and the bitrate that matter more than pixel resolution for a content.

But can you distinguish a 30GB bluray file from a 10GB MKV 720p file of the same title on a 42-inch 3ft away?

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #129 on: Jan 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM »
Basta side by side, Bluray vs 720p is easy.   You need to have a reference still because some movies really look absolutely astonishing, while there are those that look very crappy even on the original Blu-Ray.

Or, by simply looking at the subtitles...very very easy to distinguish the PGS subs of Bluray   ;D

However, meron talagang magagaling na encoders even at 720p.  HiDt for instance - Grabe sa galing!  Pero meron din magagaling na 1080p encoders.  So if there is really a side by side set-up, - all things even except for the resolution,  I certainly think there is a fair chance to distinguish between 1080p and 720p encodes.


In short, it's the file size and the bitrate that matter more than pixel resolution for a content.

But can you distinguish a 30GB bluray file from a 10GB MKV 720p file of the same title on a 42-inch 3ft away?
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #130 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 01:04 PM »
So if there is really a side by side set-up, - all things even except for the resolution,  I certainly think there is a fair chance to distinguish between 1080p and 720p encodes.



You can detect but also depending on viewing distance and screen size. 
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #131 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 02:22 PM »
I was watching Dredd yesterday in 720p and I feel that it was so easy to see how fake the CGI on movie were, like the blood splatter, gunfire etc. That's using 720p, what more if it's going to be 1080p on a large screen? I think sometimes having a better resolution doesn't really make you enjoy the movie more.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #132 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 03:36 PM »
I think sometimes having a better resolution doesn't really make you enjoy the movie more.

Yeah yung mga "special"  stars, sa PC ko ang kikinis, sa high resolution kita mo lahat ng diperensya

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #133 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 03:49 PM »
Yeah yung mga "special"  stars, sa PC ko ang kikinis, sa high resolution kita mo lahat ng diperensya

That's what you call overdone sharpening... ;D
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #134 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 03:54 PM »
Yeah yung mga "special"  stars, sa PC ko ang kikinis, sa high resolution kita mo lahat ng diperensya

That's why many people don't like to watch porn in HD.  ;D

The porn actresses also.  They can no longer hide their age with their skin lines, creases and folds in HD.

Same with Hollywood celebs.  Very few look good on HD like Catherine Zeta Jones with her flawless skin.  Cameron Diaz, Julia Roberts and Britney Spears look terrible on HD close-ups.  HD shows their skin without mercy.
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #135 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 04:02 PM »
That's why many people don't like to watch porn in HD.

Yah but if the star is pretty its better to watch in 1080p mostlikely bluray..
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #136 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 04:07 PM »
Yah but if the star is pretty its better to watch in 1080p mostlikely bluray..

If they're young and Japanese.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #137 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 04:31 PM »
WARNING: scientific opinions here are based on what you need, not on what you like or what your neighbor says is a better option, and I am limiting this to normal persons, you know... yung walang magnifying glass

aysusmariajosep daming noobs!!!

the most important factor in determining if you should go for 720p vs 1080p on a 42" TV is distance from your viewing position.

42" 720p = 8feet
42" 1080p = 5feet

if you are at the above viewing distance, you wont see pixelation.

Q: So how does the statement about BlueRay vs 720 works?
A: At 8ft you wont notice which is which, but go close to 5ft and you can easily differentiate 720p

Q: I want 42" for my sala, do I go for 720p or 1080p?
A1: If you are poor (as in mahirap ka), chances are, you have a small living room, you need to sit closer to the TV, so definitely a 1080p for you.
A2: Kung mayaman ka like me, you can sit at comfy 10' away from TV, you only need 720p
A3: If you have a really rich dad, !@#$ka bakit ka mag po portitu

Q: I want 42" for my bedroom, do I go for 720p or 1080p?
A1: Depende sa edad mo, if you are old (40s+), you need 1080p because you tend to sit closer to the TV, your pea-sized brain will tell you to get closer (as a natural reflex) pero ang totoo eye fatigue yun dala ng katandaan. Closer to TV = 1080p.
A2: If you are younger, yuppy, nagsisimula pa lang, dukha, you need 720p, chances are you are more interested in your bedroom action hence lie on a bed with TV far from the edge of the bed. Far from TV = details converge = 720p

Q: Now to answer the all important question do I need 1080p to watch HD porn?
A: No brainer, absolutely YES! porn is something you'd rather watch up close and personal (as in 1.5' from screen) because you want to feel the action

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #138 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 06:31 PM »
If they're young and Japanese.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #139 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 07:07 PM »
WARNING: scientific opinions here are based on what you need, not on what you like or what your neighbor says is a better option, and I am limiting this to normal persons, you know... yung walang magnifying glass

aysusmariajosep daming noobs!!!

the most important factor in determining if you should go for 720p vs 1080p on a 42" TV is distance from your viewing position.

42" 720p = 8feet
42" 1080p = 5feet

if you are at the above viewing distance, you wont see pixelation.

Q: So how does the statement about BlueRay vs 720 works?
A: At 8ft you wont notice which is which, but go close to 5ft and you can easily differentiate 720p

Q: I want 42" for my sala, do I go for 720p or 1080p?
A1: If you are poor (as in mahirap ka), chances are, you have a small living room, you need to sit closer to the TV, so definitely a 1080p for you.
A2: Kung mayaman ka like me, you can sit at comfy 10' away from TV, you only need 720p
A3: If you have a really rich dad, !@#$ka bakit ka mag po portitu

Q: I want 42" for my bedroom, do I go for 720p or 1080p?
A1: Depende sa edad mo, if you are old (40s+), you need 1080p because you tend to sit closer to the TV, your pea-sized brain will tell you to get closer (as a natural reflex) pero ang totoo eye fatigue yun dala ng katandaan. Closer to TV = 1080p.
A2: If you are younger, yuppy, nagsisimula pa lang, dukha, you need 720p, chances are you are more interested in your bedroom action hence lie on a bed with TV far from the edge of the bed. Far from TV = details converge = 720p

Q: Now to answer the all important question do I need 1080p to watch HD porn?
A: No brainer, absolutely YES! porn is something you'd rather watch up close and personal (as in 1.5' from screen) because you want to feel the action

 ;D


sir, nasan na po yung scientific explanation dito? love that michelle jenneke avatar by the way  O0

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #140 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 07:42 PM »
sabi nya based on Scientific explanation and not this is the scientific explanation
btw love that michelle jenneke avatar by the way

sir, nasan na po yung scientific explanation dito? love that michelle jenneke avatar by the way  O0

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #141 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 07:48 PM »
sabi nya based on Scientific explanation and not this is the scientific explanation
btw love that michelle jenneke avatar by the way


hehehe yang sayaw ni michelle jenneke ang magandang panoorin sa 1080p.  ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMgmYutL9W0
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #142 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 07:50 PM »
hehehe yang sayaw ni michelle jenneke ang magandang panoorin sa 1080p.  ;D

Mas maganda pag more than sa sayaw niya in bluray. hahaha

OT na tayo....

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #143 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 08:00 PM »
Mas maganda pag more than sa sayaw niya in bluray. hahaha

OT na tayo....



i would suggest you invite Sir AC on your EB this Feb so we can do that blind test among others. for the spirit of camaraderie na din :) para lahat enjoy sa 720p japanese art  ;D

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #144 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 08:09 PM »
i would suggest you invite Sir AC on your EB this Feb so we can do that blind test among others. for the spirit of camaraderie na din :) para lahat enjoy sa 720p japanese art  ;D

Ung unang eb hindi sa akin un kay louie. haha
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #145 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 09:02 PM »
ganda ng explanation ni lisa mae:

pag dukha, 1080p kasi maliit ang sala
pag rich, 720p

dapat pala 4k ang bilhin ko kasi maralitang nagdarahop kami.

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #146 on: Jan 25, 2013 at 09:44 PM »
ganda ng explanation ni lisa mae:

pag dukha, 1080p kasi maliit ang sala
pag rich, 720p

dapat pala 4k ang bilhin ko kasi maralitang nagdarahop kami.
poser forgot to mention most important info to consider...the source
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #147 on: Jan 26, 2013 at 08:28 AM »
poser forgot to mention most important info to consider...the source

Poser yourself, you can have blueray, media player, etc... Pag sinabing 1080p or 720p yung resolution yun. Of course ang assumption is the real deal hindi yung converted signal. O sige na nga para masaya ka, for the 720p and 1080p post above use blueray (same lahat both 1080p output) and let the 720p tv do the downgrading. Daming noobs :-p

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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #148 on: Jan 26, 2013 at 08:35 AM »
ganda ng explanation ni lisa mae:

pag dukha, 1080p kasi maliit ang sala
pag rich, 720p

dapat pala 4k ang bilhin ko kasi maralitang nagdarahop kami.

Mas mahal pang lalabas yung 4k kesa sa sala :-p
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Re: Is 720P good enough for a 42 inch screen ?
« Reply #149 on: Jan 26, 2013 at 08:36 AM »
A2: Kung mayaman ka like me, you can sit at comfy 10' away from TV, you only need 720p

dapat bluray bilhin mo!

haha....kung ako mayaman BLURAY lahat ng bibilhin ko parang si sir MARK lang...

wala naman pinaguusapang yaman at dukha sa thread tsk tsk tsk....
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