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Re: Lost
« Reply #330 on: May 26, 2010 at 10:27 AM »
I do believe the R3 editions of Lost are similar to the R1 editions.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #331 on: May 26, 2010 at 03:22 PM »
Full of emotion but lacking in answers. I mean, it's like watching the last part of Lord of the Rings with so many endings. It draws you in emotionally, bringing back memories that you now feel you are part of and makes you realize that you've actually shared a connection with the characters. I'm still confused but somewhat satisfied. Oh well, the series finale just left me a little...LOST.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #332 on: May 26, 2010 at 10:39 PM »
Awesome ending--it pushed all the right buttons, and even though we didn't get all the answers we needed, none of it seemed to matter in the end.  :'(


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Re: Lost
« Reply #333 on: May 26, 2010 at 11:09 PM »
is there a replay of the final episode?

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Re: Lost
« Reply #334 on: May 27, 2010 at 02:18 AM »
is there a replay of the final episode?

You can view it at Casttv.com. Just search  "Lost".

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Re: Lost
« Reply #335 on: May 27, 2010 at 08:54 AM »
tnx klaus

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Re: Lost
« Reply #336 on: May 27, 2010 at 10:17 AM »
awesome ending... but it got me thinking what happens to them next? any ideas?  that flashing light in the end made it even more confusing.. but all in all the ending was such a relief.. everyone, somehow found each other and no longer LOST!!

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Re: Lost
« Reply #337 on: May 27, 2010 at 03:35 PM »
Cant find a better word for BRAVO!!! 
This show deserves it...

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Re: Lost
« Reply #338 on: May 27, 2010 at 11:52 PM »
awesome ending... but it got me thinking what happens to them next? any ideas?  that flashing light in the end made it even more confusing.. but all in all the ending was such a relief.. everyone, somehow found each other and no longer LOST!!

Well, that's up to you to decide. If you're Christian, you can say they're going to heaven. If you're Hindu, you can say they'll move on to their next lives. If you're Buddhist, you can say they've attained Nirvana.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #339 on: May 28, 2010 at 01:12 AM »
haven't posted in this forum for so long. i'm looking for answers cos i'm still LOST...  can i just ask a few questions and hopefully someone can help me  :)

1. what is the whole story about?  about jacob wanting to defeat his smoke brother but can't do it on his own?
2. why did jacob bring them there in the first place?
3. what is the flash-sideways story all about?
4. the dharma initiative has been on the island for so long, who/what brought them there?  i thought only jacob can decide and bring people to the island.

i still have so many questions pero eto nalang muna  :)

thanks in advance  :)

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Re: Lost
« Reply #340 on: May 28, 2010 at 01:29 AM »
1. what is the whole story about?  about jacob wanting to defeat his smoke brother but can't do it on his own?

It's more like the Man In Black wanting to leave the Island and Jacob keeping him in. They can't kill or hurt each other because their "Mother" programmed them not to. So Man in Black tries to figure out a way he can kill Jacob without violating that "rule".

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2. why did jacob bring them there in the first place?

He wants to find a replacement as Protector of the Island since he can't do it for long knowing his brother is going to kill him. The Island needs a Protector so that the "light" of the world will not go out and Evil (his brother) will not released unto the world.
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3. what is the flash-sideways story all about?

The flash-sideways is a Purgatory-type of place where the souls of the characters go to when they die. It's basically a way for them to resolve their issues and reunite so they can "move on".  Now, there's some confusion to this.: But if you listen to the speeech given by Jack's father. Time and space does not apply in the flash-sideways. Yes, all the characters you see in the world are dead but they did not die at the same time.

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4. the dharma initiative has been on the island for so long, who/what brought them there?  i thought only jacob can decide and bring people to the island.

They're simply people who found the Island and decided to study it scientifically.



thanks in advance  :)
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Re: Lost
« Reply #341 on: May 28, 2010 at 01:36 AM »
He wants to find a replacement as Protector of the Island since he can't do it for long knowing his brother is going to kill him. The Island needs a Protector so that the "light" of the world will not go out and Evil (his brother) will not released unto the world.

ah so that became Jack for awhile then it became Hurley with the help of Ben right?


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They're simply people who found the Island and decided to study it scientifically.

hhhmmm but Ben was part of the Dharma Initiative right?  and Ben was doing everything that Jacob wanted him to do diba?

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Re: Lost
« Reply #342 on: May 28, 2010 at 02:38 AM »
Some theorize that Ben was corrupted by the MIB during his time as leader of The Others. Either that or Jacob thought the Dharma Initiative is doing more harm than good in their experiments.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #343 on: May 28, 2010 at 05:12 AM »
The flash-sideways is a Purgatory-type of place where the souls of the characters go to when they die. It's basically a way for them to resolve their issues and reunite so they can "move on".  Now, there's some confusion to this.: But if you listen to the speeech given by Jack's father. Time and space does not apply in the flash-sideways. Yes, all the characters you see in the world are dead but they did not die at the same time.


aaron didn't die.. he lived, why was he also there with all the others? and what's with jack having a son? he didn't have a son?
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Re: Lost
« Reply #344 on: May 28, 2010 at 06:27 AM »
aaron didn't die.. he lived, why was he also there with all the others? and what's with jack having a son? he didn't have a son?

as stated by Jack's dad, the normal rules of time don't apply in the sideways world...they all didn't die at the same time, and some of them probably went on and grew old, aaron included, but their time spent together on the island was powerful enough to let them collectively create the sideways world as a means for all of them to find each other again AFTER they have lived out their lives.

aaron was probably there as a baby because that's how most of them remembered him. as for Jack's son, he was also probably created as a means for Jack to resolve his personal issues on his own and allow him to grow so he could move on.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #345 on: May 28, 2010 at 07:39 AM »
thank you very much for the answers  :)  at least now i get a better picture of the whole story :)  hehe  i'll post nalang again when i have new questions.

thanks again!! :)

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Re: Lost
« Reply #346 on: May 28, 2010 at 09:20 AM »
that's great! thanks for all the answers.. that made me appreciate the show more.. the finale was truly emotional..

so only walt survived the island? or was there somebody else?

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Re: Lost
« Reply #347 on: May 28, 2010 at 09:34 AM »
another question...

ano ba talaga role ni Widmore?  he was part of the Dharma right?  was he trying to save the island or he wants the island/wants to be protector?

thanks again in advance  :)

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Re: Lost
« Reply #348 on: May 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM »
that's great! thanks for all the answers.. that made me appreciate the show more.. the finale was truly emotional..

so only walt survived the island? or was there somebody else?

Walt was young when he went to the Island so he wouldn't be as bonded with those people as much and he probably had a more important event in his life when he grew up.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #349 on: May 28, 2010 at 11:41 AM »
another question...

ano ba talaga role ni Widmore?  he was part of the Dharma right?  was he trying to save the island or he wants the island/wants to be protector?

thanks again in advance  :)

Widmore wanted to exploit the Island for power/profit. That's the only reason he wanted to kill the MIB.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #350 on: May 28, 2010 at 11:53 AM »
Am I the only one who cringed when we saw Jack's flying punch to Locke? It was so, I dunno, unexpectedly cheesy as a starting salvo for a penultimate fight scene. MAybe that's why iba nangyari when they wet back on after being cut by commercial.  ;D

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Re: Lost
« Reply #351 on: May 28, 2010 at 02:14 PM »
Got this from a site and I personally agree with it...Hope it can answer some of our questions about the show...

Well, Lost has ended. Unfortunately it has left some people confused. I felt like I had a good handle on the ending they gave and I found it to be beautiful. Perhaps my interpretation can help?
Oceanic Flight 815 really did crash. Everything that happened for the last five seasons really DID happen. It was the “Flash Sideways” in Season 6 that began to play tricks on us. Suddenly Ben Linus was a teacher, Hurley was the world’s luckiest man, and Sawyer was a cop. What happened? I believe the events occurring on the island during season 6 really happened. However, the “Flash Sideways” was a portrait of each character’s life after death.
Christian Sheppard told Jack, “Everyone dies, kiddo. Some take longer than others.” Therefore, each flash sideways took place after that character’s death (whenever that death occurred) and they were unable to move on until they understood that they were living in this false reality. As the characters began to touch and remember one another from “Real life” they began to understand that life had ended at some point. This realization was necessary for them to move on.
Those people who got on the airplane probably did get away and go on to live some form of life back in the real world (This suggested as Jack saw the plane leave the island before he died). Sun, Jin, and Sayid really did die on the submarine. Hurley and Ben probably did go on to take care of the island after Jack for some time (for as long as they could). Then, they probably would have had to find a replacement just as Jacob & Jack did.
But, no matter when they died (or where they died), all of these characters (on a long enough timeline) did in fact die. When they did, they became a character in their own alternate universe until they found each other for the sake of this unified acceptance that they were in fact dead.
Because Jack was the main character of the show the ending was seen through his eyes. His “Heaven” or “Eternity” was comprised of the people who meant the most to him as he knew them best. This is why Faraday, Charlotte, and Miles were not seen in his afterlife. The people seen in the church at the end were those closest to him over the years. This left out several minor characters (Dharma members, Dogen and Lennon, Jacob and the Man in Black) as well as leaving certain characters as they were when he knew them. For example, Jack never saw Bernard with his big Moses beard and therefore, in his Heaven, Bernard was clean shaven while sitting in the church with Rose.
Also, because characters like Sawyer, Sayid, and Hurley were so important to him, he was able to portray Juliet, Shannon, and Libby alongside his friends to ensure that they were as happy as they could be. Had this Heaven been shown through Sayid’s eyes perhaps Nadia would have been there instead with him. But, Jack did not know Nadia and only knew of Sayid’s once love for Shannon. Ben had accepted that he was dead, but was not yet ready to let go because in his alternate reality, he had everything he ever wanted (to some extent). This was evident by a relationship with his daughter, and a possible love interest in Danielle.
Besides him, Jack took the longest to accept his death and had to be shown pieces of this death several times before being willing to move on. Like Jacob said, “Some people you can just tell them what they have to do and they’ll do it. Others you have to let stare out at the ocean for a while.” Jack needed time to accept that it was time to move on, but eventually did.
Over the years Jack had really grown to care for all of these people. They were his family (perhaps more than his family ever was). He finally found his purpose and had closure with his father. Only then were the passengers of Oceanic Flight 815 able to move on.
There were a lot of people in the church. Perhaps everyone in the church (from the plane) had family members there and/or people they loved with which to move on. But, because we were looking from Jack’s perspective, we were only allowed to see what he knew to be real while we moved forward.
P.S. Ben told Hurley that he didn’t have to operate the way Jacob did as leader of the island. When Jacob and his brother (as kids) were playing, Jacob’s brother told him, “I made the game. Sometimes you can make your own game and everyone will have to play by your rules.” Everyone did play by Jacob’s rules until he passed on the responsibility and died. That is why Locke was able to be killed and why people were allowed to leave the island. Hurley made his own rules.
I wasn’t expecting to post somebody else’s thoughts, but when I read Joe’s I thought “wow he nailed it.” So why should I write it myself when I agree with what he has to say? I think he’s right about what the Flash Sideways were. I think the final meeting at the church was done that way to show these people in the after life at the point in their lives when they were happiest. And that’s when they were on the island. Because if you’ll recall, the people on the island were there because their lives were miserable in the real world. That’s why those smiles on their faces at the end, when they say their friends, were genuine. Of course, I could be wrong.
See, that’s the point of this show. There’s no “right” or “wrong” way to interpret what we saw. It’s up to you. Frankly, I like that. I’ve watched the show since the beginning and I’ve liked it since the beginning, but I’ve never obsessed about it like some I know. I rarely checked out blogs or Lost forums simply because I felt like if you overthought things then it would ruin your feelings for it. I have a good co-worker, his name is Gary, that was nuts about it. Read everything, told me everything he read and then got mad at me when I would say things like, “those are just theories. Who knows what to believe?” I also saw him hate some episodes while liking others a lot. All because of what he THOUGHT it should be. To me, that ruins the show and I always looked at it at face value. It’s a TV show that I truly loved from start to finish. Were there bumps in the road? Sure. Did I get frustrated at times? Yes, especially in season three. However, I genuinely enjoyed 95% of it and I look forward to re-watching the whole series again from the beginning especially now that I know how it ends.
I’ll miss a lot of things about the show: Ben’s character changes, the facial expressions of John Locke, Sawyer’s humor, Sayid messing dudes up, Desmond saying “brother” all the time, the Jin/Sun romance that really told an incredible story and of course the general hotness of my girl Kate. It took them the final episode to fit that woman into a short black miniskirt? Come on guys, it could have happened a lot more often. idiots.
By the way, the very last scene with Vincent the dog laying beside Jack as he’s about to close his eyes for the last time? That was pretty damn sad. I’m sure some people teared up. It was cheesy to some I’m sure, but I liked it.
Oh and did anybody find out what the real name is of The Man In Black? I guess it doesn’t matter. Or does it? Cue eerie music.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #352 on: May 28, 2010 at 03:57 PM »
Ahhh...thanks for that post! Now I won't have any sleepless nights trying to figure out what just happened.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #353 on: May 28, 2010 at 05:29 PM »
Well, that's up to you to decide. If you're Christian, you can say they're going to heaven. If you're Hindu, you can say they'll move on to their next lives. If you're Buddhist, you can say they've attained Nirvana.

was the flash sideways story just about jack's life after death? or each characters,, kate, sawyer and the others lived. what happened to them? ben even told hurley that he was a great number one.. somehow what happened in the church came after they were all dead.. right?.,, so whose FLASH sideways story really is it.. everyone's? ...

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Re: Lost
« Reply #354 on: May 28, 2010 at 08:51 PM »
the “Flash Sideways” was a portrait of each character’s life after death.
Christian Sheppard told Jack, “Everyone dies, kiddo. Some take longer than others.” Therefore, each flash sideways took place after that character’s death (whenever that death occurred) and they were unable to move on until they understood that they were living in this false reality. As the characters began to touch and remember one another from “Real life” they began to understand that life had ended at some point. This realization was necessary for them to move on.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #355 on: May 29, 2010 at 09:39 AM »
the “Flash Sideways” was a portrait of each character’s life after death.
Christian Sheppard told Jack, “Everyone dies, kiddo. Some take longer than others.” Therefore, each flash sideways took place after that character’s death (whenever that death occurred) and they were unable to move on until they understood that they were living in this false reality. As the characters began to touch and remember one another from “Real life” they began to understand that life had ended at some point. This realization was necessary for them to move on.

would you say that in the church where they all gathered was the time all of them would move on and not just jack's flash sideways story because the way they all remembered one another seems like the same time as how jack remembered everything..  it's like they all waited everyone to die then move on. because one needs everyone and vise versa

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Re: Lost
« Reply #356 on: May 29, 2010 at 06:40 PM »
Over the years Jack had really grown to care for all of these people. They were his family (perhaps more than his family ever was). He finally found his purpose and had closure with his father. Only then were the passengers of Oceanic Flight 815 able to move on.
There were a lot of people in the church. Perhaps everyone in the church (from the plane) had family members there and/or people they loved with which to move on. But, because we were looking from Jack’s perspective, we were only allowed to see what he knew to be real while we moved forward.
P.S. Ben told Hurley that he didn’t have to operate the way Jacob did as leader of the island. When Jacob and his brother (as kids) were playing, Jacob’s brother told him, “I made the game. Sometimes you can make your own game and everyone will have to play by your rules.” Everyone did play by Jacob’s rules until he passed on the responsibility and died. That is why Locke was able to be killed and why people were allowed to leave the island. Hurley made his own rules.

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Re: Lost
« Reply #357 on: Jun 11, 2010 at 07:42 AM »
An epilogue of sorts will be included in Lost: The Complete Collection on DVD & Blu-Ray, scheduled for release on August 24, 2010. Michael Emerson, who played Ben in the series, hinted that we'll get to see stuff that happened during Hurley's reign as Island Guardian.

Aside from containing every single episode, Lost: The Complete Collection features over 30 hours of bonus material (from every season), plus one full disc of bonus material exclusive to the collection. The nicely packaged set also features some noteworthy goodies, like the replica of the island itself, an Ankh, a Senet Game, and a black light penlight (wtf?).




Prices: DVD set: US $229.99, Blu-ray: US $279.99

Holy crap!!! This set is worth getting for me just for that island replica alone--SOLD   ;D
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Re: Lost
« Reply #358 on: Jun 17, 2010 at 07:48 AM »
Frankly, I think if the people in this thread had put their heads together, we could have plotted out a better ending. Seriously.

Yes, it was emotionally satisfying, but I'm an avid SF and fantasy reader - and not having the mystery of the island properly explained just killed it for me.
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Re: Lost
« Reply #359 on: Jun 17, 2010 at 09:12 AM »
^I wonder how much of that was because most of the good endings were already speculated and discussed to death on the internet. And of course they had to come up with something else. No excuse though.