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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #330 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 02:11 AM »
available naman na yung 42py700 eh true hd na 1920 x1080p na. bili ulit yung mga gustong mag upgrade..hehehe ;D

meron na din 65py700 kaso grabe mahal! ;)

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #331 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 02:55 AM »
Any LCD or Plasma that has 720p is also HD sir. ;)

Nemesis, hindi ko kasi gets yung mga resolution masyado hehe, so even if 1024x768 sya 720 p parin kaya nya? ganun ba yun? hehe. this one accepts 1080p signals so meaning hd-ready sya right?
can you pls pm the price of the full hd pana plasma.. thanks alot!

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #332 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 07:49 AM »
available naman na yung 42py700 eh true hd na 1920 x1080p na. bili ulit yung mga gustong mag upgrade..hehehe ;D

meron na din 65py700 kaso grabe mahal! ;)

sir in your honest and unbiased opinion (sign off muna pagiging owner ng store nyo ;D ) is there a big difference in the pq of a hd ready (1024x768) and a full hd panel (1920x1080) using sd-dvd source? if using hd-dvd source naman, is it really night and day difference between the two panel? para bang vcd<dvd difference ng pq nila?
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #333 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 11:54 AM »
AFAIK, you will only see big results in PQ difference in larger screen sizes (50" - up).
Pero hindi nga real-HD yung pv70 (not that I'm complaining  :)).

It's best to compare side by side yung newer and previous models para makita talaga natin ang difference.
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #334 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 06:31 PM »
sir in your honest and unbiased opinion (sign off muna pagiging owner ng store nyo ;D ) is there a big difference in the pq of a hd ready (1024x768) and a full hd panel (1920x1080) using sd-dvd source? if using hd-dvd source naman, is it really night and day difference between the two panel? para bang vcd<dvd difference ng pq nila?

No sir, kapag SD walang difference sir, only on HD source lang makikita. Kadalasan on big screen kalat na mga pixel that is why dapat 2 mega pixel na yung pannel, sa small screen kasi hindi halata eh. :)

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #335 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 08:07 PM »
1,024 x 768 - commonly called HDTV plasma - Meets definition of high def? NO
is there a big difference sa 1,280x720 - Meets definition of high def? YES
42pv70 when using hddvd & bluray hindi pa pala hi def?
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #336 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 10:12 PM »
at viewing distance of 2.4mts or 8 feet, what panel size can show advantage of a full HD from a HD ready set? I read that viewing on a 42 inch panel at this distance will not show its difference and that one has to watch closer to see the difference, is this correct?
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #337 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 10:40 PM »
I heard th same.  Below 8 ft. you need 46-47" to see the difference.
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #338 on: Oct 21, 2007 at 11:21 PM »
To all 42pv70 (and other panasonic plasma) owners,

Please post your picture settings (brightness, contrast, color, sharpness). I finally finished my 100 hours of burn in! I'm fiddling around with the AVIA video calibration tests as well as the THX optimizer which came with Finding Nemo. I just want to check if I understood the instructions correctly.

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #339 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 02:19 AM »
Hi! I have this model also, and had that exact question a few days back. Long story short, hindi sya HD, or should I say not-quite-HD.

So far, the most satisfactory explanation I've had is the response of pchin below.

tonedeaf, the minimum HDTV standard is 720p or 1280 x 720 = 921,600 pixels to be exact. Thus, your HDTV set with its native resolution of 1024 x 768 = 786,432 pixels is short of the minimum HDTV standard. Tho it's not true 720p but it still looks good as the resolution is 2.5 times as compared to a standard 640 x 480 TV.




Is 1024 x 768p HD or not?  In my opinion, 1024 x 768p is HD.

Wikipedia defines HDTV as "a digital television broadcasting system with a significantly higher resolution than traditional formats (NTSC, SECAM, PAL)".  This is the generally accepted definition of the term "HD". 

Based on this definition, since 1024 x 768 is a significantly higher resolution than standard definition, then 1024 x 768 can correctly be considered high definition.

I disagree with the notion that the minimum HD resolution is supposedly 1280 x 720p.  I have searched all over the net, but I have failed to find any authoritative pronouncement to this effect.

I suspect that this impression was based on the fact that the ATSC (Advanced Television Systems Committee) supports only 3 HD variants:  1280 x 720p; 1920 x 1080i; and 1920 x 1080p.  This has led to the conclusion that 1280 x 720p is the absolute minimum resolution for HD. 

But note that the above resolutions refer specifically to the ATSC HD standards.  They do not refer to the general definition of the term "HD".
 
Therefore, it would be correct to say that 1280 x 720 is the minimum HD resolution under the ATSC standard, simply because the ATSC does not support 1024 x 768.  However, it would not be correct to say that any resolution below 1280 x 720 is not HD.  Moreover, the ATSC itself has never declared that any resolution below 1280 x 720 cannot be considered "HD", as far as I know.   

     
hi all!

 i was just looking at Cnet.com HD world special report. the report discussed, among others, HDTV display resolution as follows:

1920x1080, commonly called 1080p = HD
1366X768, 768P = HD
1280x720, 720p = HD
1024x768, commonly called HDTV plasma = not HD
852x480, EDTV plasma = not HD
640x480, VGA = not HD

http://asia.cnet.com/hd_world/0,39063941,61968972-4,00.htm


I checked your asia.cnet link.  I don't find it very convincing because it says 1024 x 768 does not meet the definition of high def, yet it does not cite its basis for saying so. 

The article seems to have been sourced from this article: http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html, by cnet editor David Katzmaier.

According to the linked Katzmaier article on its "HDTV display resolution" table (not the "HDTV source resolutions" table), a 1024 x 768 resolution, commonly called HDTV plasma (37 and 42 inch), meets the definition of "high def".

Katzmaier provides the basis for this statement on footnote 3 of his article: http://www.ce.org/shared_files/resources/95DTV%20Definitions.pdf.  In the cited document, the CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) stated:

"The Board defined minimum attribute resolution requirements that, until now, had not existed for High Definition televisions and monitors.  Specifically, HDTV displays must have active top-to-bottom scan lines of 720 progressive, 1080 interlaced, or higher."

Note that the CEA criterion is scan lines, not pixel count.  Therefore, a 1024 x 768 panel definitely qualifies as an HDTV under the CEA definition.
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #340 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 08:30 AM »
thanks sir Barrister for always sharing your deep knowledge on the subject, to add a little more, is it true that tv broadcast in HD in other countries start as low as 576p? please correct me if im wrong...again  ;D
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #341 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 08:55 AM »
The only country I know that considers 576p as high definition is Australia.

See the TEAC Australia site http://www.teac.com.au/glossary/H, which states the following definitions:

HD Monitor   -  a 16:9 display device that displays video images at a resolution of 576 lines progressive or better at a refresh rate of 50Hz.

HDTV (High-Definition Television) - HD pictures have image resolution which is superior to SD pictures and to the existing analog standard, with up to six times the improvement in detail. The minimum HD picture resolution is be 576 lines x 720 pixels @ 50Hz progressive (576p). This means that the benefits of HD pictures are particularly noticeable on larger screen sets and when using projection equipment. HD pictures are also ghost free and in widescreen format. When viewed on an HDTV screen the viewer can enjoy cinema-quality viewing with Dolby surround sound as HD can also offer 5.1 independent channels of CD-quality stereo surround sound.

576p: High Definition TV signal - 576 lines, progressive scan, 16:9 aspect ratio.
720p: High Definition TV signal - 720 lines, progressive scan, 16:9 aspect ratio.
1080i: High Definition TV signal - 1080 lines, interlace scan, 16:9 aspect ratio.


Technically, Standard Definition (SD) is 720 x 480i for NTSC, and 768 x 576i for PAL; while Enhanced Definition (ED) is 720 x 480p for NTSC, and 768 x 576p for PAL. 

Wikipedia states:

In Australia, the 576p50 format is also considered a HDTV format, as it has doubled temporal resolution though the use of progressive scanning. Thus, a number of Australian networks broadcast a 576p signal as their High-definition DVB-T signal, while others use the more conventional 720p and 1080i formats. Technically, however, the 576p format is defined as Enhanced-definition television.

« Last Edit: Oct 22, 2007 at 08:59 AM by barrister »

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #342 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 10:15 AM »
I heard th same.  Below 8 ft. you need 46-47" to see the difference.

i think you meant "above 8ft".....which is true, the farther you are from the tv, you bigger screen you will need to notice the difference...

if you seat more than 10ft away, the edtv's (720p) IMO, will do just fine
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #343 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 12:48 PM »
I got mine already!
got it sa listening  megamall.
Like what they said sulit tong plasma na to. Sarap manood ng dvd's!

Anyway question lang regarding this unit...
I've read na ang hdtv eh 1280x720 ang resolution pero ito eh 1024x768, someaning hindi ito hdtv?
bali EDTV ba ito? And is this HD ready? Balak ko kasi bumili ng pioneer dvd na may upscale so baka mamaya sayang lang kung di rin ma maximize sa resolution... gusto ko sana malaman yung pq difference nito sa mga 1280x720...

sorry sa tanong confused lang ako sa terms na ito...hope may maka explain hehe!
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #344 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 12:57 PM »
Hi! I have this model also, and had that exact question a few days back. Long story short, hindi sya HD, or should I say not-quite-HD.

So far, the most satisfactory explanation I've had is the response of pchin below.

for additional discussion, may I refer  you to this thread:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=63765.280

Here is another explanation for you. Sent you pm, please read.

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« Reply #345 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 01:18 PM »





Is 1024 x 768p HD or not?  In my opinion, 1024 x 768p is HD.

Wikipedia defines HDTV as "a digital television broadcasting system with a significantly higher resolution than traditional formats (NTSC, SECAM, PAL)".  This is the generally accepted definition of the term "HD". 

Based on this definition, since 1024 x 768 is a significantly higher resolution than standard definition, then 1024 x 768 can correctly be considered high definition.

I disagree with the notion that the minimum HD resolution is supposedly 1280 x 720p.  I have searched all over the net, but I have failed to find any authoritative pronouncement to this effect.

I suspect that this impression was based on the fact that the ATSC (Advanced Television Systems Committee) supports only 3 HD variants:  1280 x 720p; 1920 x 1080i; and 1920 x 1080p.  This has led to the conclusion that 1280 x 720p is the absolute minimum resolution for HD. 

But note that the above resolutions refer specifically to the ATSC HD standards.  They do not refer to the general definition of the term "HD".
 
Therefore, it would be correct to say that 1280 x 720 is the minimum HD resolution under the ATSC standard, simply because the ATSC does not support 1024 x 768.  However, it would not be correct to say that any resolution below 1280 x 720 is not HD.  Moreover, the ATSC itself has never declared that any resolution below 1280 x 720 cannot be considered "HD", as far as I know.   

     

I checked your asia.cnet link.  I don't find it very convincing because it says 1024 x 768 does not meet the definition of high def, yet it does not cite its basis for saying so. 

The article seems to have been sourced from this article: http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html, by cnet editor David Katzmaier.

According to the linked Katzmaier article on its "HDTV display resolution" table (not the "HDTV source resolutions" table), a 1024 x 768 resolution, commonly called HDTV plasma (37 and 42 inch), meets the definition of "high def".

Katzmaier provides the basis for this statement on footnote 3 of his article: http://www.ce.org/shared_files/resources/95DTV%20Definitions.pdf.  In the cited document, the CEA (Consumer Electronics Association) stated:

"The Board defined minimum attribute resolution requirements that, until now, had not existed for High Definition televisions and monitors.  Specifically, HDTV displays must have active top-to-bottom scan lines of 720 progressive, 1080 interlaced, or higher."

Note that the CEA criterion is scan lines, not pixel count.  Therefore, a 1024 x 768 panel definitely qualifies as an HDTV under the CEA definition.


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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #346 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 01:23 PM »
sir baka puede pa pm din ako? or pa post na lang sa appropriate na thread if this is OT na, thanks.
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« Reply #347 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 01:47 PM »
sir baka puede pa pm din ako? or pa post na lang sa appropriate na thread if this is OT na, thanks.

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #348 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 02:21 PM »
hi, im just new here and im also interested in buying a new plasma tv.

can you(the seller) send me a pm of how much the 42pv70 and 42pv700 costs now? will the price drop on dec?     

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #349 on: Oct 22, 2007 at 09:50 PM »
i think you meant "above 8ft".....which is true, the farther you are from the tv, you bigger screen you will need to notice the difference...

if you seat more than 10ft away, the edtv's (720p) IMO, will do just fine

I meant below 8 ft. as in above 8 ft. you need a screen larger than 47" to detect the difference between 720p and 1080p.
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #350 on: Oct 23, 2007 at 12:40 PM »
To all 42pv70 (and other panasonic plasma) owners,

Please post your picture settings (brightness, contrast, color, sharpness). I finally finished my 100 hours of burn in! I'm fiddling around with the AVIA video calibration tests as well as the THX optimizer which came with Finding Nemo. I just want to check if I understood the instructions correctly.

Sir, R3 ba yung Finding Nemo ninyo? Wala po kasi akong nakikitang THX optimizer e. 2 disc version yung akin.
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« Reply #351 on: Oct 23, 2007 at 09:17 PM »
@RXV,

R1 ang Finding Nemo. (sorry mods, medyo OT na)  ;D


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« Reply #352 on: Oct 23, 2007 at 09:50 PM »
Ok thanks!
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #353 on: Oct 26, 2007 at 12:04 AM »
Panasonic 42pv70 still rocks!!!!! sold out na kabayan! ;)

Daming demand, low supply! Sana dumating na ulit pati na din yung 42py700 ko!!!! ;D

Thanks sa mga kumaha! congrats and more power! ;)

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #354 on: Oct 26, 2007 at 12:09 AM »
42Pv7 maganda din, pdvd memebers had compared against hitachi 9800 kanina and 100% agreed na mas maganda ang 42pv7 vs the 9800! ;)

These units are available at trinoma ha and im not bias i'm just telling the truth...hehehe. :D

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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #355 on: Oct 28, 2007 at 04:57 PM »
Was At Trinoma Theater Works a while ago... Dami bumibili 42pv70 since few days ago, paubos na ata kanina. Did not notice the 42pv700, what's the difference and the price? BTW, may dating pa ba 42pv 70? Thanks

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« Reply #356 on: Oct 28, 2007 at 10:59 PM »
Was At Trinoma Theater Works a while ago... Dami bumibili 42pv70 since few days ago, paubos na ata kanina. Did not notice the 42pv700, what's the difference and the price? BTW, may dating pa ba 42pv 70? Thanks

Meron pa sir last 20 units from company. ;D
madami tao kaya di mo na pansin yung 42pv700, its very nice talaga meron din kumuha nun. ;D
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Re: Panasonic 42pv70H Rocks!!!
« Reply #357 on: Oct 28, 2007 at 11:22 PM »
Bought the 42PV70 from TheaterWorks this afternoon. This is my first widescreen TV. I watched Transformers with this TV and the screen shows black bars on top and bottom of the picture. I have set the TV and the DVD player to 16:9. The box of the Transformers indicate that it is 16:9, so why are there black bars? Is there anymore settings that I should adjust?

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« Reply #358 on: Oct 28, 2007 at 11:27 PM »
Bought the 42PV70 from TheaterWorks this afternoon. This is my first widescreen TV. I watched Transformers with this TV and the screen shows black bars on top and bottom of the picture. I have set the TV and the DVD player to 16:9. The box of the Transformers indicate that it is 16:9, so why are there black bars? Is there anymore settings that I should adjust?

you can zoom the plasma to get rid of the 2 black bars or try to adjust your player to full screen.
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« Reply #359 on: Oct 29, 2007 at 12:13 AM »
Nemesis,

Can you PM me the price for the 42PV70.