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Re: My dream theater -- a Major Major upgrade
« Reply #1980 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 10:20 AM »
Merry Christmas Mark!! ;D

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Re: My dream theater -- a Major Major upgrade
« Reply #1981 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 11:11 AM »
Gusto ko sanang batiin ng merry Christmas si sir Mark. Eh alam ko naman merry na merry siya ngayon kasi ganda ganda ng Powkels niya eh. Hehe!

Anyway, merry Christmas pa din!!!
hahaha ewan ko kung antok lang ako galing office o ano man ...  iba ang pagkaintindi   :)
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Re: My dream theater -- a Major Major upgrade
« Reply #1982 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM »
Merry Christmas to you and your family!
May the New Year bring you peace, joy and love that will last a lifetime!
Learn the technology but also learn to trust your ears and eyes...and enjoy the journey.

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Re: My dream theater -- a Major Major upgrade
« Reply #1983 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 06:01 PM »
MERRY CHRISTMAS kuya Mark and family !!!  GOD bless !!!

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Re: My dream theater -- a Major Major upgrade
« Reply #1984 on: Dec 25, 2010 at 08:53 PM »
Sir Mark Merry Christmas po!

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Re: My dream theater -- a Major Major upgrade
« Reply #1985 on: Dec 26, 2010 at 05:42 AM »


   MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

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Last upgrade for 2010!
« Reply #1986 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 09:47 AM »
DIY'd the brackets for the Height speakers and installed them. Sorry about the butas. Aayusin pa yun pero di naman sya pansin.



I realized that I had made a mistake in the installation of my first Height speakers. They are supposed to be at 45 degrees from a horizontal plane and then another 45 degrees from the vertical plane. I followed these guidelines but I forgot that the calculation of the 45 degrees from the vertical plane should start from ear level. The correct position is much higher and it's not easy to get the exact position because of the bracket. Anyhow, I'm sure that this new position is much more correct than the previous one. It's really HIGH!



Most rooms don't have a 14-foot high ceiling so people just try to make do and get them as high as possible. Nonetheless, I have noticed a clear difference with the new position of the Height speakers. Contrary to common perception, the Height speakers don't just add a vertical dimension (like arrows zooming up, even if there is a fantastic scene in the 1st Lord of the Rings when the orcs are firing arrows down - that scene is pretty incredible to watch with the new speaker setup). Actually, the main function of the Height speakers is to add depth to the soundstage. You can notice this more with epic films such as LOTR and with full-orchestra concerts. In my previous setup, it was hard to note the difference between having Height speakers and disabling them. In the new one, it's much easier to tell. I'd say that a part of the reason is the correct installation of the speakers while the other is that the speakers are now Focal Electras which are better and are perfectly matched with my 5 front speakers (LCR + Wide).

Next upgrade was an Emotiva XPA-5 power amp:



It was on sale and I couldn't resist. Landed cost for me was around P35k for a beautiful 5-channel power amp, capable of 200 watts @ 8 ohms and 300 watts @ 4 ohms with ALL channels driven. After having blown my Aragon amp twice and having just blown my Bryston amp after 16 years of problem-free performance (it's now in the repair shop), I decided to get the Emotiva, which is reputed to be very solidly built. If you frequent AVS Forum, you will notice that everyone there is buying Emotiva amps. There's a reason for that. The quality is so good and the price is so cheap. Unfortunately, out-of-stock ang XPA-5. Binili yata namin ni @gaol ang 2 huling units.  ;D ;D ;D

Listening impressions? Hard to say. All I can say right now is that it's an efficient amp and delivers lots of clean power.

Finally, I decided to change the wiring for 5 of my speakers. My previous contractor had installed very thin cables and while I'm not a big believer in the magical qualities of cables, I do understand that if you're doing runs of more than 50 feet (as in my case), you need thicker cables (gauge 12 to 14). I made a special trip to DEECO and I found these special gauge 12 silver cables:



These were the top-of-the line cables at DEECO but they aren't that expensive. The only problem, of course, is that you have to go to DEECO.  ;D ;D Lapit sa Raon. Ang gulo. Mabaho. Jeep ka lang.

I connected them to the speakers with the new banana plugs that I got from Narayan. These are the best banana plugs I've ever tried. They make a really firm connection.



To fabricate and install the speaker brackets and change the 5 speaker wires, I had to use 6 people working more than 12 hours + me as the foreman. Really exhausting work but I'm pretty happy with how things have turned out.

Now, all I need to do is the Audyssey Pro calibration at 10:30 pm up (when the LRT beside us stops running)!  ;D ;D

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

« Last Edit: Dec 29, 2010 at 01:22 PM by streetsmart »
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1987 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 10:04 AM »
nicely done bro streetsmart!!
too bad i was not able to experience the front heights.
btw what is the ideal height for front heights?
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1988 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM »
Great work Mark! Congrats!  ;)  Do I smell another upcoming EB perhaps?

That Emotiva amp seems very heavy - rack is bowing down :o

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1989 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM »
Happy New Year! Happy New Gear !!!

pero meron word dapat wala dun sa title mo mark.....

yung "LAST"......
paki-tanggal na lang....  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1990 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 12:08 PM »
nicely done bro streetsmart!!
too bad i was not able to experience the front heights.
btw what is the ideal height for front heights?

There is no ideal "height" for the front height speakers. There is rather an ideal angle, which is 45 degrees along a vertical plane. Try to calculate that and you'll find that nasa kisame ka, unless you have very high walls.
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1991 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 12:10 PM »
That Emotiva amp seems very heavy - rack is bowing down :o

Tinakot mo naman ako.  ;D ;D

Optical illusion lang yun. Rack isn't bowing down. Matibay ang rack.
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1992 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 12:24 PM »
@streetsmart

ask ko lang since 5 channel si emotiva and 7 channels sa front tapos may 4 channels pa at the back, sa receiver nyo pa ba yung natitirang 6 channels or may dedicated amp din?

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1993 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM »
@streetsmart

ask ko lang since 5 channel si emotiva and 7 channels sa front tapos may 4 channels pa at the back, sa receiver nyo pa ba yung natitirang 6 channels or may dedicated amp din?

I have 3 x 2-channel dedicated power amps for those 6 remaining channels. However, one of the amps is being repaired so I'm using the internal amp of the Denon 4311 to power 2 channels (the surround back channels, which are the least important).

Once my amp is repaired, I will run the Denon in pre-amp mode.
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1994 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 12:41 PM »
Congrats Chief Mark! Last upgrade for 2010? ...buti na lang pala at 3 days na lang e 2011 na! hahahaha!

I could imagine the re-wiring that has to be done considering the size of your room. But I'm sure you also had fun doing it and most likely felt better about having bigger cables for your speakers.

Ang ganda talaga! Kelangan talagang marinig ko yan... :D

In the meantime, Happy New Year!
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1995 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 01:29 PM »
Congrats Chief Mark! Last upgrade for 2010? ...buti na lang pala at 3 days na lang e 2011 na! hahahaha!

I could imagine the re-wiring that has to be done considering the size of your room. But I'm sure you also had fun doing it and most likely felt better about having bigger cables for your speakers.

Hi Alvin!

2.5 days na nga natitira sa 2010. Wala na talaga chance for additional upgrade.  ;D ;D

Ano kaya next year? Siguro pahinga muna ako. Famous last words!!!  ;D ;D

In theory, there should be a small audio improvement because of the thicker and better quality cables but it's likely difficult to detect. I guess the most important thing is that I won't obsess about the cables!  :)
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1996 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 01:36 PM »
Happy New Year po sir Mark!

pansin ko nga na dumarami na ang gumagamit ng Emotiva at dahil meron ka na, natitiyak kong marami na rin dito ang magsipaggayahan.  ;) Idol eh!  ;)

ito ang mga setup ng naka XPA-5: http://www.blu-ray.com/Emotiva-XPA-5/13452/?show=photos

God Bless po.  :)
« Last Edit: Dec 29, 2010 at 02:51 PM by praktikal »

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1997 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 02:04 PM »
Hi Alvin!

2.5 days na nga natitira sa 2010. Wala na talaga chance for additional upgrade.  ;D ;D

Ano kaya next year? Siguro pahinga muna ako. Famous last words!!!  ;D ;D

i-quote ko lang baka magkalimutan na naman... dapat siguro gumawa na ako ng thread na famous... last words... ahahaha!

sir mark, langya... kakapunta ko lang para makinig ng bagong speakers... may bago na naman!  eh last week lang yun ah!  di ka pa huli kahit 2.5 days pa!

congrats!
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1998 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 03:00 PM »
 :o :o :o  I like the emotiva amp that you have sir Mark., very good reviews and can outperform big power amp names in the industry. Truly a giant killer! congrats! ;)
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #1999 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 03:30 PM »
Hi Alvin!

2.5 days na nga natitira sa 2010. Wala na talaga chance for additional upgrade.  ;D ;D

Ano kaya next year? Siguro pahinga muna ako. Famous last words!!!  ;D ;D

In theory, there should be a small audio improvement because of the thicker and better quality cables but it's likely difficult to detect. I guess the most important thing is that I won't obsess about the cables!  :)

Enjoy mo muna ang set-up mo Chief! It's like a car with a brand new smell....drive it around for a while.
Knowing you, your journey to your ideal HT will not end there as technology keeps advancing...don't look for anything wrong muna with your system ha...enjoy it's capabilities...watch all your bd concerts you have not seen yet...di ba?

But when the itch happens to cross your way, I guess 2011 is just around the corner talaga.  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2000 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:11 PM »
Happy New Year po sir Mark!

pansin ko nga na dumarami na ang gumagamit ng Emotiva at dahil meron ka na, natitiyak kong marami na rin dito ang magsipaggayahan.  ;) Idol eh!  ;)

ito ang mga setup ng naka XPA-5: http://www.blu-ray.com/Emotiva-XPA-5/13452/?show=photos

God Bless po.  :)

etong emotiva nasa wishlist ko yan dati nung nagisip ko mga items if ever magkaroon ako ng dedicated ht hehe kaso xpa3 lang for the lcr the rest bahala na si receiver hehe

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2001 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:13 PM »
kakainspire talaga ht ni sir streetsmart, iba talaga kapag may passion wew..need to work hard lols

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2002 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:20 PM »
Congrats sir Mark! Update kita when office resumes January, hindi umabot theater setup ko for this year kasi.
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2003 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:32 PM »
intay ko na lang ulit ang invite sa next eb sir mark

wala na ako ma comment eh napapailing na lang ako

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2004 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:34 PM »
hanep! emotiva!

grats sir mark!

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2005 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:39 PM »
sir Mark, kakainspire yung setup mo. if i could just make more money i'd  really splurge on my system..

Happy New Year !!!  ;D ;D ;D

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2006 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 04:42 PM »
Congrats sir Mark! Update kita when office resumes January, hindi umabot theater setup ko for this year kasi.

Hi Ditoy! No problem. Text mo lang ako kapag ready na kayo.  :)
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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2007 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 07:27 PM »
Nice! naka height speakers ka na senor Mark...Congrats! Iba nga talaga ang effect nyan! Try mo din yung scene sa Master and Commander wherein they were being bombarded in their ship and people running at the upper deck.  ;)

Good buy nga yung Emotiva at 35K.  ;)

Tingin ko susunod na yung elevated seats.  ;)

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Re: My dream theater -- LAST upgrade ... for 2010
« Reply #2008 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 07:33 PM »
Yey! Ganda na Sir Mark!  8) 8) 8)

Ang laking trabaho din pala inabot, but I'm sure maganda po ang salubong ng HT setup sa darating na New Year! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

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« Reply #2009 on: Dec 29, 2010 at 08:23 PM »
Nice! naka height speakers ka na senor Mark...Congrats! Iba nga talaga ang effect nyan! Try mo din yung scene sa Master and Commander wherein they were being bombarded in their ship and people running at the upper deck.  ;)

Good buy nga yung Emotiva at 35K.  ;)

Tingin ko susunod na yung elevated seats.  ;)

Hi Donnel! Yes, I've tried that Master & Commander scene & it's much better with the new Height speakers.

Elevated seats? You mean tiered seating? Ayoko nun. Not flexible.
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