Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:25 PM
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I commissioned this painting from a Tanay painter. Tamang tama ang size so that when the screen comes down, tago siya. Tuwang tuwa ako sa kanya until I saw a smaller version in a small hotel in Tagaytay. Paulit ulit lang pala ng painting ang ugali ng painter.
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Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2007 at 08:32 PM
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This is the entrance to the theater. The door appears to be wood but it is actually steel, for better sound-proofing. Doors and windows are very important because they are a major source of audio leakage, both outwards and inwards.
At the base of the door, I attached one of these "rubber skirts" that provides a further seal between the room and the outside. Malaki ang tulong nya for both sound-proofing and keeping the cool air in. Along the door jamb, I also attached strips of rubber in order to provide a tighter fit, also for purposes of sound-proofing.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Entrancedoor-1.jpg)
You enter through a kind of ante-room. At the right side, you can see the back of the equipment rack. You will note that may takip ang likod ng rack kasi otherwise, ang dami wires at pangit. But naglagay ako ng dami butas sa likod ng rack for ventilation purposes. You will also notice that there is a small space sa likod ng rack so that madali mag-access sa cables. Naglalagay ako usually ng bangko doon pag may aayusin ako. Ang laking bagay ito! Hirap kapag wala ka easy access sa likod ng rack.
On the left, you can see a DVD shelf, cabinets for manuals, tools, etc., the AVR and line conditioner, etc.
For acoustic purposes, the walls of the ante-room are lined with a dark brown corkboard.
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Here's a closer look at the AVR and the Furman line conditioner.
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Here's a shot of the seating area. You can note that these aren't normal theater seats. It's designed to have get-togethers with friends. Ummm .. inuman actually. May bar nga sa likod. This is a big theater. Ceiling at the rear is 15 feet high. Sa harap is about 10 feet.
The walls and ceiling are actually covered with a 4" layer of fiberglass. Sometimes, workers need to go up sa kisame to work on wiring or the projector support, etc. Kailangan pasuotin mo sila ng long-sleeves at surgical mask kasi ang fiberglass is so fine na pumapasok ang fibers sa pores mo. Kati.
The front part of the theater also has RPG-style diffusers. At the top of the rear portion, may plywood with a matrix of holes, supposedly designed to be a bass trap. All of this acoustic treatment is hidden underneath the fabric.
The flooring is actually granite, with some large area carpets. This is supposed to be a no-no for acoustic treatment because the hard flooring causes unwanted reflections with the ceiling. However, this doesn't seem to be a big problem in my theater, probably because (1) ang dami ring furniture which absorb sound and (2) the ceiling of the front part of the theater is sloping upwards and (3) the ceiling is made of wooden planks with grooves in-between planks.
At the right rear of the theater, you can see the heavy drapes covering a small window. About half a block away from the house is the LRT and without a good window, maririnig talaga ang ugong niya. In order to solve this problem, I had to install a double window, as in one window tapos air gap tapos another window. Now, you can hardly hear the LRT.
Underneath the drapes and also sa tabi ng wall sa right side are 2 aircon units. Usually isa lang ginagamit ko. Kailangan paandarin ang 2 only if there are a lot of people. My problem with the aircons is that kapag may quiet scene sa movie, nadidinig talaga ang fan ng aircon. The best solution is really to have a separate room for the air handling unit and then duct the cool air into the room. In the meantime, naghahanap ako ng mas tahimik na aircon pero wala talaga ako makita.
There is a coffee table and 2 side tables. These are actually designed so that wherever you sit, you have a table close by where you can put your drinks, pulutan ... It's not perfect but it works quite well. When I was building the theater, an architect friend of mine told me that I should have installed a "dumb waiter." Yung maliit na elevator para sa pagkain, kasi ang theater ay nasa 3rd floor. Tumawa ako noon pero ngayon, nakikita ko na tama sya. Hirap mag-akyat ng food sa 3rd floor.
At the top, you can see the Sony VPL-VW100 projector.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Rear.jpg)
Here's a close-up of the sofa and the coffee table. The sofa looks good and is very comfortable ... but it's actually not appropriate. Mataas kasi ang back kaya natatakpan ang ears mo. Dapat medyo low back so that litaw ang ears mo.
Very useful talaga ang table para sa mga remote, pagkain, alak ... :) Sa ilalim ng table, you can see a portion of my collection of home theater magazines - Home Theater, AV Interiors, Stereophile Guide to Home Theater, etc. I used to buy a lot of these. Nowadays, I never buy a brand-new copy. Palagi yung luma kasi sobra mahal ang bago and you can get a lot more updated information on the web, anyhow.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Sofa.jpg)
Closer shot of the La-Z-boy type seats sa harap. Ang sarap talaga matulog dito! :)
You can also see the baseboard, which is corrugated. The idea was that corrugation helps to diffuse the sound.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/EZchair.jpg)
In this photo, you can see the pipes which support the projector. They are anchored sa trusses. The ceiling is 15 feet high at this point.
You can also see that the ceiling is made of wooden planks. "Kalantas," which is a soft wood but has grains similar to narra. Looks expensive but it's not. No need for hardwood sa ceiling. I thought that this type of ceiling would enhance the "traditional" look of the theater.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/PJmount.jpg)
This is actually the entrance to the theater. You can see the front of the equipment rack and some DVD's.
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Here's the other shelves for DVD's and CD's. It's actually better na medyo kalat at magulo ang mga DVD at CD cuz that contributes to sound diffusion.
You can also see the side speakers. These are a combination of JBL XPL-160 and JBL XPL-90. Mga vintage speakers pero magaling! Wired sila as dipole. I used to have only the JBL XPL-160 speakers sa side. Akala ko malakas na sya kasi rating nya mga 160 watts. Also, usually mahina naman ang tunog na lumalabas sa side at rear ... until I played Chapter 15 of "Air Force One," when the US fighter jet positions itself at rear of Air Force One and then fires a missile. When the fighter jet moves to the rear, there is a huge roar of its engines coming out of the side speakers ... doon bumigay ang JBL XPL-160, so I decided to add the JBL XPL-90, in parrallel. After that, okay na.
And do you see that round golden thing at the bottom left side? Basurahan yan! Anong akala mo? :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DVD-CDrack.jpg)
At eto yung isa ko pang collection. Actually, d naman ito collection kasi nauubos! ;D The wine rack sa left is off-the-shelf while the bar on the right is custom-made. Ginamit ko Romblon marble kasi d sya masyado namamantsa. Tapos may CR sa left side with personal ref (para sa beer!) and sink for cleaning glasses. Kaya parang "wet bar" siya. My prized and unique bottle is a Calvados (apple brandy) which is more than 100 years old. Bigay ng friend ko from the French embassy. Meron din akong Chateau Yquem na 1975 - this is a very special dessert wine.
You can also see the big JBL XPL-200 that I use as a rear speaker. Kaparis ng center speaker. Actually, this rear speaker doesn't need to be so big kasi the Denon AVR treats it like a "small" speaker and kaunti lang ang lumalabas sa kanya. However, ano naman gagawin ko sa speaker na ito? Kaya ginawa ko na lang rear sya. Yung nasa ibabaw nya ay maliit na JBL, my previous rear speaker. Iniwan ko na lang kasi kung tanggalin ko, magkakaroon ng butas.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Bar.jpg)
Okay talaga itong vintage na frame. Mura ng coke dati! Did you know that during WWII, Coca-Cola vowed to supply all American GI's with Coke at 5 cents wherever they were? That's why Coke set up around 40 bottling plants around the world during the war, and that's how Coke became international and the most recognized brand name.
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Post by: sanmig_ph on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:02 PM
congrats pare.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:21 PM
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This is the center speaker. JBL XPL-200. Has 2 titanium drivers. Vintage na ito pero magaling pa rin. As long as you don't stress the speaker, it can last a very long time.
It's hard to over-emphasize how important the center speaker is cuz that's where the dialogue comes from and for movies, if you strain to understand the dialogue, that is such a bummer. Actually, I originally put the 2 JBL XPL-90 speakers as the center. 90 watts each kaya 180 watts total. Sa laki ng kwarto, bumibigay ang speakers kapag malakas ang volume - lalo na ang kanta ni Charlotte Church na "Danny Boy" sa first DVD niya (Voice of an Angel)! Parang mabibiyak niya ang speakers! Kaya pinalitan ko sila with the big JBL XPL-200 and its been okay since then.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Centerspeaker.jpg)
Eto ang sub. Velodyne HGS-15. Luma na pero matindi pa rin! 1250 watts. There must be a reason why Velodyne designed these subs to have so much wattage, but even in my huge room, I don't think I have ever used even half of its power. Boomy masyado ang bass kung laksan mo siya.
Update on 10 Sep 2007: I finally got the big Velodyne to clip. At the end of track 2 of the Peter Gabriel DVD, Growing Up. The whole DVD is just full of heavy bass but this was the heaviest of all. Baka 2 seconds lang pero bumigay din si Velodyne. Maybe I should get an 18". :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Sub.jpg)
I think that when you have a home theater with as big a volume as mine, iba ang dating ng sound. Parang small auditorium vs. a tight jazz bar with low ceiling. The problem is that in order to play the system loud (which I like to do), you need really big speakers and power amps ... and you get a big electricity bill!
This is a shot of the typical speaker jacks that I use - banana plugs. As much as possible, I use the type wherein the red and black jacks are hooked together, parang twins. The reason is that kung individual ang jacks and for some reason ay natanggal ang isang jack (maybe because of vibration or nabunggo lang), pwede sya mag-short sa kabilang jack, and then putok ang power amp mo. That actually happened to me once.
I am not a great believer in super expensive interconnects or speaker cables. Basta makapal ang cable at maganda ang fit ng jack and better kung gold-plated ang jack, ok na yun.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/spkrjacks.jpg)
Insofar as jacks are concerned, this is my best friend, the Electra contact cleaner. The problem with jacks is that over time, kinakalawang and sometimes, they get loose. That is why every few months, I unplug each speaker cable and interconnect, I clean the jacks with a special cloth, I loosen and tighten speaker cables connecting to the jacks and spray the jacks with the contact cleaner. This ensures that you have good tight connections. It's very tedious - maybe 100 jacks - but I nearly always find at least one or two loose connections, which could seriously degrade your sound if not properly tightened. Furthermore, ang tagal na ng system ko and wala ako kalawang sa mga jacks.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Electra.jpg)
Post by: almirage on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:36 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2007 at 09:43 PM
The previous projector was a Barco CRT - yun ang vintage. Madalas na kailangang ayusin ang convergence. And then ang hirap maghanap ng pyesa.
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The following pictures have not been retouched. Ang hirap lang talaga to get good screenshots. You have to wait till walang movement.
Malungkot na Kate Winslet sa Titanic
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Yung bakla sa Fifth Element
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Nicole Kidman in Moulin Rouge. I love her eyes!
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The duke sa Moulin Rouge. Notice the texture of his bushy moustache.
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This is from the 5th element. It is interesting cuz it is a shot of a graphing paper, which is quite difficult to properly show sa screen. Manipis kasi ang lines. The projector is able to show even that fine detail.
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Eto ung scientist sa 5th element. Dami uka sa mukha.
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Leeloo sa 5th element, entering Flostom paradise. Ang ganda ni Milla Jovovich!
I think this screenshot has a little bit of each of the main characteristics of a good projector:
1. Contrast ratio. Ang dilim ng black at ang liwanag ng white.
2. Color saturation. Solid colors. D sya pale.
3. Color accuracy. Skin tone looks accurate.
4. Resolution. Clean lines and good detail.
Of course, the actual image is better than the screenshot, but you get an idea of the pq.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/MillaJovovichFlostom.jpg)
Leeloo again ... Ang ganda ng buhok nya!
I used to take careful notice of how projectors or TVs are able to show individual strands of hair. Now, I am more interested in whether or not I can see eyelashes!
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Fifth Element again. I love the colors.
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Shot from a Cirque du Soleil DVD. This picture isn't actually great but the problem is the DVD, not the projector. It is a bit soft, as if the camera is out of focus. There is evidence of edge enhancement on the cheek of the girl on the left. Finally, it suffers from the typical problem of these filmed performances, which is that the lighting is not optimized for film but for the stage. Nonetheless, I love Cirque du Soleil!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Cirquechinesegirls.jpg)
Another Cirque du Soleil DVD. Look closely to see why I posted this. Kailangan nya services ng Dermstrata. :)
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Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:24 PM
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:46 PM
WoW!!! :o Ganda naman!!! :D Matindiii!!! ;D
Welcome to Pinoy DVD!!! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2007 at 10:50 PM
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In this photo, you can see the Aragon 4004 power amp on top - para sa rear speakers - and the DVDO Iscan VP-50 below it. The VP-50 is a video processor that de-interlaces and scales the input signals. In other words, send it a 480i signal and it can output a very good 1080p signal. In addition, it does a lot of other things, such as adjusting the aspect ratio. In combination with the Sony VPL-VW100, the video output is incredible. It's very hard to tell the difference between SD and HD. The VP-50 has a younger brother, the VP-30, which is much cheaper. I suspect that for most people, the VP-30 is practically the same as the VP-50. In any case, wala talaga ako regret with the VP-50. There is no comparison between it and the deinterlacers and upscalers of DVD players, projectors and TV's.
Mapapansin mo rin that the shelf was moved kasi kita ang guhit ng lumang pwesto. When you get new equipment na sobra taba, you need to readjust the shelves. E medyo magulo mag-adjust ng shelves pagka kahoy ang equipment rack mo. Nevertheless, bagay naman ang wooden na rack sa kwarto ko so I accept the hassle. Siguro, 3 beses na ako nag-adjust ng shelves.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Aragon4004andVP-50.jpg)
At the bottom, you can see the Bryston 3B power amp, which provides the juice for the center speaker. At the top, you can see the Denon AVR-2807, which I use as a processor and pre-amplifier. The Denon 2807 uses the "Audyssey" technology, which acts like a serious audio technician and adjusts the equalization of the various speakers accordingly. "Audyssey" was developed by very prestigious audio experts, including Mr. THX, Tom Holzman. Similar to the DVDO video processor, parang magic talaga ang "Audyssey." It takes into consideration the speakers, the amps, the room, the cables, etc. and then does a fantastic job at equalizing the speakers. Wow talaga! Balance. Soundstage. Bass management. Biglang naging 3-dimensional ang sound. Ang galing!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DenonAVR-2807andBryston3B.jpg)
At the bottom, you can see the CD player. Onkyo DX-7911. High-end pero medyo luma na, though okay pa naman.
On top is the Pioneer DV-696. I like this DVD player cuz it can output a 480i signal through an HDMI cable. Perfect because it sends a raw signal to the video processor, which then handles all the de-interlacing, scaling, etc. Also, the player can read SACD and DVD-Audio. Mura pa!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/CD.jpg)
On top is a high-end S-VHS player. Sony SLV-R1000. Sa baba ay laser disc player. Both are perfect as paper weights. ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/S-VHS.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2007 at 11:08 PM
D naman ako super hi-tech guy, audiophile or videophile. But I have been investing a lot of time and effort into this hobby over many years. My theater was built in 1999 but it continues to be improved - of course! Siguro may natuto din ako over that time period, and I want to share that simple knowledge with other Pinoys. Let me gradually share my knowledge with you guys, and maybe some of you can also help me! :)
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 29, 2007 at 08:27 AM
Very nice pictures. It really shows how HUGE your HT is as well as the top notch equipments you have integrated so far. I was impressed by how good SD is atyour sweetspot, almost walang difference. But when you get closer to the screen HD is still King. Can't wait for your new screen to arrive, mayroon tayong mapaglaruan na naman.
BTW, I got my AVM50 back a couple of days back, sayang ,hindi natin nacompare yung processing nang Gennum at Iscan mo. Will be upgrading to a Statement D2 soon (walang stock daw, have to wait at least a month).
Alvin
Post by: docelmo on Jul 29, 2007 at 12:01 PM
WOOOW!!!! awesome HD theater!!!
Dream theater talaga!
Congrats!!!
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2007 at 02:59 PM
Thanks for the comments. I really appreciate the video calibration you did on the projector. Ang laki ng improvement.
Wala pa rin ako nakuhang quote for the new screen. Kinukulit ko nga ang supplier.
If you notice, I followed your advice. Isa na lang ang center speaker at tinayo ko siya. I had to re-run the Audyssey of the Denon and yes, the sound quality improved.
Problem is the center speaker blocks the lower part of the screen for 4:3 viewing. But when I get the new screen, itataas ko na lang ang screen kasi may space pa naman. Tapos nilipat ko ang kaparis ng center sa likod kaya lahat ng speakers ay malalaking full-range na.
When you get your Statement D2, punta uli ako sa inyo at pakinggan natin. Next time, dala na ako ng CD at SACD ko.
I am still working on getting the Velodyne SMS-1. I am really intrigued by the reviews. Sana sabay dumating ang screen at SMS-1 para mapaglaruan natin silang dalawa.
By the way, I like it when you say "the top notch equipments you have integrated so far." There's still a lot of room for improvement. :)
Cheers!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2007 at 04:20 PM
WOOOW!!!! awesome HD theater!!!
Dream theater talaga!
Congrats!!!
;D
Thanks, doc. Ok rin set-up mo. Nakakatuwa how you are finding ways to slowly improve it. :)
Post by: keema on Jul 29, 2007 at 04:42 PM
Post by: sight on Jul 29, 2007 at 06:20 PM
Yung photo posting kasi is via flickr.com, for some reason restricted ang 'flickr' dito sa'tin. Sayang ang dami pa mandin ditong mga pix na via flickr, hindi tuloy natin makita-kita yung mga gears nila.
:(
Anyway Sir Streetsmart congrats sa HT mo.
SYT
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2007 at 06:33 PM
Keema,
Yung photo posting kasi is via flickr.com, alam mo naman restricted ang 'flickr' dito sa'tin. Sayang ang dami pa mandin ditong mga pix na via flickr, hindi tuloy natin makita-kita yung mga gears nila.
:(
Anyway Sir Streetsmart congrats sa HT mo.
SYT
Ano suggestion mo na gamitin na wala restriction sa inyo?
Post by: sight on Jul 29, 2007 at 07:11 PM
Sir,
I hope we don't sound very demanding :) normally kasi most members, they use photobucket.com or any other online image storage maliban sa flickr.com. Thanks again anyway.
:)
SYT
Post by: 5Speed on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:24 PM
love those vintage speakers.....and those power amps too.....
and of course love those wines as well...herherherherher....... ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:24 PM
Sir,
I hope we don't sound very demanding :) normally kasi most members, they use photobucket.com or any other online image storage maliban sa flickr.com. Thanks again anyway.
:)
SYT
Ok lang. Nakakatulong nga advice mo. Thanks!
Nilipat ko na lahat ng photo sa photobucket.com.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2007 at 09:31 PM
very nice theater......
love those vintage speakers.....and those power amps too.....
and of course love those wines as well...herherherherher....... ;D ;D
Parang lasingero ka rin, ah ... :)
D ako, ha ... Mga friends ko lang. ;D ;D
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:45 AM
Hi Alvin,
Thanks for the comments. I really appreciate the video calibration you did on the projector. Ang laki ng improvement.
Wala pa rin ako nakuhang quote for the new screen. Kinukulit ko nga ang supplier.
If you notice, I followed your advice. Isa na lang ang center speaker at tinayo ko siya. I had to re-run the Audyssey of the Denon and yes, the sound quality improved.
Problem is the center speaker blocks the lower part of the screen for 4:3 viewing. But when I get the new screen, itataas ko na lang ang screen kasi may space pa naman. Tapos nilipat ko ang kaparis ng center sa likod kaya lahat ng speakers ay malalaking full-range na.
When you get your Statement D2, punta uli ako sa inyo at pakinggan natin. Next time, dala na ako ng CD at SACD ko.
I am still working on getting the Velodyne SMS-1. I am really intrigued by the reviews. Sana sabay dumating ang screen at SMS-1 para mapaglaruan natin silang dalawa.
By the way, I like it when you say "the top notch equipments you have integrated so far." There's still a lot of room for improvement. :)
Cheers!
Hi Mark,
Actually its your fault why I am upgrading to the D2 ;D. Kasi nakita ko how the Audyssey can improve sound so much (dialogue intelligibility) for the center speaker. The D2 will have a proprietary room EQ that will be available soon via firmware upgrade and a software/mic add-on for another 300 bucks. This will not be availbable with the AVM50. Hands down I am satisfied with the AVM50 but a lot of folks in the US swear that the sound quality of the D2 is much better. It is the only pre/pro that I know of that upsamples ALL audio (analog and digital) to 192/24 and process it in the digital domain. I think this will not sway analog buffs to the D2 but they also say that the Anthems are the most tube sounding high end solidstate preamps on the market.
Regarding the center speaker, using 2 MONO speakers will just cause comb filtering especially for people sitting off center because of the different arrival time of the same signal to their ears. Yes, nakita ko nga yung problem sa height nang screen, sa 15ft height nang ceiling mo ay walang problema yan.
I went to Fully Booked sa Hi Street at the Fort, yes they have a lot of SACD's there but most are Jazz and Classical music. Meron akong nabiling apat but halos pareho lang nang price kapag nag mail order ako sa Hong Kong na mas marami pa rin ang selection.
Alvin
Post by: pekspert on Jul 30, 2007 at 07:57 AM
Post by: jerix on Jul 30, 2007 at 08:02 AM
Sana makanood ako dito... ;D
Post by: deo on Jul 30, 2007 at 08:20 AM
Post by: bonjit on Jul 30, 2007 at 08:48 AM
Very nice setup, I still remember those jbl vintage speakers during the 70's or 80's kaya? These jbl speakers were very popular back then. Back then in the late 70's my father bought me an L100a jbl speakers bookshelf type, it lasted a long time with me until I sold it. I'm impressed with the projector you have. Is that full high definition 1080p? I work in an electonics shop here in Sydney. I think that costs a lot of money here. Anyway more power and happy upgrading with never ending gastos.
Bonjit
Post by: docelmo on Jul 30, 2007 at 08:51 AM
Thanks, doc. Ok rin set-up mo. Nakakatuwa how you are finding ways to slowly improve it. :)
thanks bro! sarap siguro manood o makinig ng sounds dyan, at kasama mo sila pareng johnnie w. or jack d. or
flavored vodka or pag eagles concert....ice cold san mig!!! :P
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:43 AM
Hi Mark,
Actually its your fault why I am upgrading to the D2 ;D. Kasi nakita ko how the Audyssey can improve sound so much (dialogue intelligibility) for the center speaker. The D2 will have a proprietary room EQ that will be available soon via firmware upgrade and a software/mic add-on for another 300 bucks. This will not be availbable with the AVM50. Hands down I am satisfied with the AVM50 but a lot of folks in the US swear that the sound quality of the D2 is much better. It is the only pre/pro that I know of that upsamples ALL audio (analog and digital) to 192/24 and process it in the digital domain. I think this will not sway analog buffs to the D2 but they also say that the Anthems are the most tube sounding high end solidstate preamps on the market.
Regarding the center speaker, using 2 MONO speakers will just cause comb filtering especially for people sitting off center because of the different arrival time of the same signal to their ears. Yes, nakita ko nga yung problem sa height nang screen, sa 15ft height nang ceiling mo ay walang problema yan.
I went to Fully Booked sa Hi Street at the Fort, yes they have a lot of SACD's there but most are Jazz and Classical music. Meron akong nabiling apat but halos pareho lang nang price kapag nag mail order ako sa Hong Kong na mas marami pa rin ang selection.
Alvin
I am happy that you were impressed with the performance of the Audyssey. Actually, any product of Mr. THX himself should be pretty good! I also note that you immediately realized that much of the difference in the sound quality was caused by Audyssey - very balanced sound, 3-dimensional.
The D2 sounds fantastic. Actually, I am a bit familiar with it because I was thinking of getting one last year but I decided that baka di bumagay sa system ko. Baka kung yumaman ako bigla and bumili ng Revel or JMLab high-end speakers, dun na babagay ang D2! Now with your Elac speakers, siguro bagay nga sya.
Cheers, Alvin!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:51 AM
nice setup streetsmart, wish i earn as much as you so i could afford the $7k sony projector and the $2k dvdo upscaler hehe..just wondering who made your theater? was it built when you were also building the house or was it made after? galing kasi ng pagkaktago ng wires. And who made the projector ceiling mount? mukha kasing custom-made
Thanks. Actually mas mahal pa sya dun ... But there is a Sony VPL-VW50 ("Pearl") which is half the price and has also received a lot of good reviews. And the DVDO VP-50 has 2 cousins, the VP-30 and VP-20 which are much cheaper and yet also perform pretty well.
The theater was built at the same time as the house. Ako nagdikta gaano sya kalaki, location nya, etc. Pati floor plan nya, ako rin. Kaya nga lahat ng speaker cable ay nakabaon sa conduit. Ang specs ko lang sa conduits was that never sasaabay ang audio-video cables at electricity line, or at the worst dapat perpendicular.
The ceiling is 15 feet high at the projector kaya nakabitin sya with 4 pipes anchored sa trusses. Pagkatapos may steel plate and on the plate, we mounted the bracket. Ang bracket is actually for a Barco CRT projector kasi yun ang dati kong pj. We just modified it para magamit sa Sony.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:59 AM
Streetsmart,
Very nice setup, I still remember those jbl vintage speakers during the 70's or 80's kaya? These jbl speakers were very popular back then. Back then in the late 70's my father bought me an L100a jbl speakers bookshelf type, it lasted a long time with me until I sold it. I'm impressed with the projector you have. Is that full high definition 1080p? I work in an electonics shop here in Sydney. I think that costs a lot of money here. Anyway more power and happy upgrading with never ending gastos.
Bonjit
Mga early 90's naman ko sya nabili. Iba ang tunog nya from all the other JBL's at that time. Maybe kasi titanium ang tweeter. You see kung gaano ako katipid? Ang tagal na ng mga speakers at buhay pa rin. Ganda pa ng tunog. That's the beauty about speakers and power amps. They can last a really long time. Other components, well ...
The Sony is full HD, 1080p. It has 3 LCOS chips, which Sony calls SXRD. Sa Pinas, Sony sells big-screen TV's with SXRD but they don't carry this projector. My previous pj lasted many years. I hope I keep this for at least 5 years. Parang kotse.
G'day mate!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:02 AM
what can i say? -- SUPER!!
Sana makanood ako dito... ;D
E kung gusto mo magbisita, pwede rin siguro basta weekend. Better din kung may grupo. Tapos dahil DVD guru ka, dala ka magandang DVD. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:04 AM
thanks bro! sarap siguro manood o makinig ng sounds dyan, at kasama mo sila pareng johnnie w. or jack d. or
flavored vodka or pag eagles concert....ice cold san mig!!! :P
;D
:) :) Ok ka! Pero actually, mostly red wine iniinom ko ngayon. Mas healthy! Daw. ;D
Post by: accastil on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:32 AM
Post by: jerix on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:58 AM
E kung gusto mo magbisita, pwede rin siguro basta weekend. Better din kung may grupo. Tapos dahil DVD guru ka, dala ka magandang DVD. :)
Bro- location mo? hehehe bro i'm sure mas rich ang collection mo dala na lang ako ng pulutan ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:38 AM
awesome! i really liked the medieval style of the room..the furnitures..the lighting..nice one bro!
:) D naman siguro "medieval." ;D Kasi kung medieval, dapat may mga knight in shining armor, mga axe ... Para bang gothic. ;D
I guess it's more like traditional European or parang English club. Kulang na lang ang nagtatabako. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:41 AM
Bro- location mo? hehehe bro i'm sure mas rich ang collection mo dala na lang ako ng pulutan ;D
I'm not sure kung mas rich DVD collection ko pero kung masarap pulutan mo, bakit hindi? ;D Nasa Ermita, Manila ako.
Post by: accastil on Jul 30, 2007 at 12:09 PM
:) D naman siguro "medieval." ;D Kasi kung medieval, dapat may mga knight in shining armor, mga axe ... Para bang gothic. ;Dhahaha..oo nga naman..a little more civilized.
I guess it's more like traditional European or parang English club. Kulang na lang ang nagtatabako. ;D
Post by: sight on Jul 30, 2007 at 12:32 PM
Dream Theater nga, kasi I get the "concierto" feel of the room. Something that stands out is the least I could say.
One thing we could learn from this is that not everything BAGO is what's cool but rather how you present what you have. More power to our OLD-SCHOOL type members.
:)
SIGHT
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 01:22 PM
Dream Theater nga, kasi I get the "concierto" feel of the room. Something that stands out is the least I could say.
One thing we could learn from this is that not everything BAGO is what's cool but rather how you present what you have. More power to our OLD-SCHOOL type members.
:)
SIGHT
SYT,
Obviously, nakikita mo na ang mga pictures kasi nasa photobucket.com na. :)
Sa home theater, I think there are basically 2 kinds of styles. Yung isa ay "theater" talaga, including theater seats and baka tiered seating pa. Similar sa Aquarium Theater ni Nemesis na ang ganda talaga. Ang problem nun ay di ka naman pwede makipag get-together ("inuman" actually ;D).
The other type of theater is more like a living room. Pwede ka pa mag-karaoke. Actually, meron nga akong mixer and reverb processor na semi-pro. D ko pa lang na-post ang photo. At saka ang kanta ko ay delikado, baka mabaril ako ... "My Way" lang kasi. ;D
Post by: sight on Jul 30, 2007 at 01:59 PM
Oo nga Mr. S. nakita ko na, maraming thank you po :)
Sa totoo lang, partly pareho lang tayo na yung HT natin eh living room/HT/Guest hung-out. Yun nga lang iniiwasan ko lang talaga ang mapabili ng 'videoke' player kasi baka katoking na kami ng mga kapit-bahay... nakikihiram na lang pag may gathering para pa-minsan-minsan lang yung occurrence...
Post mo na pala yung pictures, okay lang yan... sa tindi ng tunog ng speakers mo, hindi na tatagos yung bala nyan...
:D
SIGHT
Post by: dj on Jul 30, 2007 at 02:24 PM
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 30, 2007 at 02:56 PM
I have actually stopped changing gears & my next mission is for a bigger house and a bigger HT room like this! Inspiring!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 03:32 PM
Excellent work!
I have actually stopped changing gears & my next mission is for a bigger house and a bigger HT room like this! Inspiring!
Quite logical. It may take a few years pero at least, clearly defined ang goal mo. No matter how much you upgrade your equipment, you are still constrained by the acoustics and size of your theater.
Secondly, much of the enjoyment of a home theater is the room itself. Iba talaga ang malaking room. Feel mo maluwag.
Finally, imbes na bumili ka ng swimming pool or BMW or Expedition, invest ka na lang sa theater. Habang buhay mo, enjoy mo sya, much more than pools or cars.
Cheers!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 30, 2007 at 09:10 PM
Quite logical. It may take a few years pero at least, clearly defined ang goal mo. No matter how much you upgrade your equipment, you are still constrained by the acoustics and size of your theater.
Secondly, much of the enjoyment of a home theater is the room itself. Iba talaga ang malaking room. Feel mo maluwag.
Finally, imbes na bumili ka ng swimming pool or BMW or Expedition, invest ka na lang sa theater. Habang buhay mo, enjoy mo sya, much more than pools or cars.
Cheers!
Makes sense, dpa depreciated ng malaki yung value over time compared sa Expedition. Ngayon, di lang gears ang nakaka-SARS pati na din pag-build ng theater room like yours sir. . . nakaka-inspire! I'm quite intrigued with the HD video processor & the 1080p Sony Pearl tandem very well recommended nung professional A/V installer na nakausap ko just like you said. . .S-dvd kaya daw gawin HD yung PQ . . . wow! Kaso, I can't find any A/V shop here that has similar set-up for a demo. Will trade bottles of red Novellino's sana just to see it in action . . . ahem ;D
Congrats!
Post by: keema on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:46 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 10:56 PM
Makes sense, dpa depreciated ng malaki yung value over time compared sa Expedition. Ngayon, di lang gears ang nakaka-SARS pati na din pag-build ng theater room like yours sir. . . nakaka-inspire! I'm quite intrigued with the HD video processor & the 1080p Sony Pearl tandem very well recommended nung professional A/V installer na nakausap ko just like you said. . .S-dvd kaya daw gawin HD yung PQ . . . wow! Kaso, I can't find any A/V shop here that has similar set-up for a demo. Will trade bottles of red Novellino's sana just to see it in action . . . ahem ;D
Congrats!
You can say the same thing about condos. Ang bilis nila mag-depreciate!
Imbita ko na si Matzter sa theater ko. Wala pa date pero weekend yun. PM mo sya para sama ka.
No shop carries the Sony Pearl dito. I got my Sony Ruby through AV Driver sa Shang mall and they are importing a Sony Pearl for a friend of mine. They source it through their HK affiliate so ang importante, may warranty at may support nila. They can give it to you at the MSRP. Based on the reviews, the Pearl is very similar to the Ruby and it seems like the VP-30 is also very similar to the VP-50 kaya kung makita mo theater ko, halos ganun na rin ang pq. Its very very hard to tell the difference between SD and HD. Kaya kung isipin mo, parang nakatipid ka na rin, kahit lang sa bala ng HD na napakamahal. :)
You can only tell the difference kung lumapit ka na sobra sa screen. But even then, I think that the ordinary person will find it hard to tell the difference.
By the way, AV Driver is also the supplier of DVDO video processor. Baka may supplier dito ng iba pang video processor pero ang alam ko lang is Audible Illusions. They supply Anthem products, which are video and audio/surround processors. Mas mahal nga lang.
Re the Novellino's ... ako na lang magbukas ng mga bote ng red wine para sa yo! :) Ok lang.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2007 at 11:26 PM
Katabi ng Mackie is the Tributaries S-Video booster. Kasi, to get from the DVD player to the projector, 50 feet yun. Kaya kailangan ng booster. But of course now, I don't use this anymore cuz I use HDMI. Pero kung masira HDMI cable (na 50 feet din), at least may back-up ako.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Mixer.jpg)
And here's the Lexicon audio processor. Para sa mga reverb, echo and other kinds of stuff para d mahalata na ang pangit ng boses mo. :)
Sa ilalim nya is the super-vintage Tascam PROFESSIONAL CD writer. :) Dami ko nakopya na CD dito pero patugtog mo talaga buong CD para makopya. :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/CD-RW.jpg)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 31, 2007 at 12:41 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2007 at 04:09 PM
Bait mo pala sir! no wonder you're blessed w/ great gears. Thanks for the invitation PM'd Matzter already.
A true home theater enthusiast will always want to share his experience with other enthusiasts, at saka baka rin makakuha ng magandang advice sa iba. :)
Or were you referring to the free wine? ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Jul 31, 2007 at 04:24 PM
How did I know? I saw your light saber at your picture below: ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Mixer.jpg)
Something is wrong with the PM system. Will PM you guys again next time.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2007 at 04:29 PM
Words of a true Jedi master!
How did I know? I saw your light saber at your picture below: ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Mixer.jpg)
Something is wrong with the PM system. Will PM you guys again next time.
Hehe ... ;D Ingat ka, ha! Baka masaksak kita ng saber. :)
Pwede rin e-mail. [email protected]
Post by: Vhongbiker on Jul 31, 2007 at 05:23 PM
more power sir and more pix :D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 31, 2007 at 07:42 PM
A true home theater enthusiast will always want to share his experience with other enthusiasts, at saka baka rin makakuha ng magandang advice sa iba. :)Cheers to that!
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Or were you referring to the free wine? ;D
:D :D :D
Post by: ricky on Aug 01, 2007 at 08:01 AM
You can say the same thing about condos. Ang bilis nila mag-depreciate!
Imbita ko na si Matzter sa theater ko. Wala pa date pero weekend yun. PM mo sya para sama ka.
No shop carries the Sony Pearl dito. I got my Sony Ruby through AV Driver sa Shang mall and they are importing a Sony Pearl for a friend of mine. They source it through their HK affiliate so ang importante, may warranty at may support nila. They can give it to you at the MSRP. Based on the reviews, the Pearl is very similar to the Ruby and it seems like the VP-30 is also very similar to the VP-50 kaya kung makita mo theater ko, halos ganun na rin ang pq. Its very very hard to tell the difference between SD and HD. Kaya kung isipin mo, parang nakatipid ka na rin, kahit lang sa bala ng HD na napakamahal. :)
You can only tell the difference kung lumapit ka na sobra sa screen. But even then, I think that the ordinary person will find it hard to tell the difference.
By the way, AV Driver is also the supplier of DVDO video processor. Baka may supplier dito ng iba pang video processor pero ang alam ko lang is Audible Illusions. They supply Anthem products, which are video and audio/surround processors. Mas mahal nga lang.
Re the Novellino's ... ako na lang magbukas ng mga bote ng red wine para sa yo! :) Ok lang.
Congrats Sir on your grand setup,what a big room you have :o With your ceiling height you wont be needing presence speakers anymore :) And you are correct investing in top notch gears kasi hindi sya nawawalan ng silbi in the long run ;) (iwas upgrade every so often ;D) like yung setup ko 3yrs na and im still enjoying it :D Im a big fan of JBL speakers as well bec hard to beat yung dialogue clarity nya and they are so durable :) Also Sir Most setups abroad uses the video scaler thats why they're not to keen with the new HD players,kasi as you've said hard to notice yung difference esp in big screens and titles are so expensive din for them ;) they're just buying the consoles for the games and not to much for the movies ;D
p.s. Hindi na yata bagay novellino's sa setup mo sir ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 01, 2007 at 10:19 AM
Congrats Sir on your grand setup,what a big room you have :o With your ceiling height you wont be needing presence speakers anymore :) And you are correct investing in top notch gears kasi hindi sya nawawalan ng silbi in the long run ;) (iwas upgrade every so often ;D) like yung setup ko 3yrs na and im still enjoying it :D Im a big fan of JBL speakers as well bec hard to beat yung dialogue clarity nya and they are so durable :) Also Sir Most setups abroad uses the video scaler thats why they're not to keen with the new HD players,kasi as you've said hard to notice yung difference esp in big screens and titles are so expensive din for them ;) they're just buying the consoles for the games and not to much for the movies ;D
Your comment on buying top-notch gear is right, because for the longest time, I haven't changed my speakers, power amps, interconnects, speaker cables, line conditioner ...
But with respect to source equipment, I haven't been as lucky:
1) I have a very good cassette deck which is useless
2) Same with S-VHS deck and laser disc player
3) I used to have a high-end Sony DVD player and a very cheap Chinese DVD player. I once ran the same material on both and switched between the 2 sources. Mas maganda pa ang output ng Chinese DVD player. Kakainis! >:( Tapos after 2 years, nasira yung Sony DVD player. Wala na. :(
Same thing with AVR's which I actually use as pre-pro's. I originally had a Yamaha DSP A-1. It was pretty good and it lasted mga 4 or 5 years siguro tapos namatay. :( Then I got a Sony TA-E9000 ES which was very good but it lasted only a few years cuz I got the Denon AVR-2807, which has the newer flavors of DD and DTS, as well as the Audyssey technology. Technology kasi ... ::)
Re the JBL, yes my center speaker is fantastic. The dialogue is very clear. At tama ka, ang tibay ng JBL.
With regard to video processors, d ako very sure. The DVDO VP-50 is not just a scaler, it's a video processor. It's quite exotic cuz there are maybe only 4 or 5 major manufacturers of video processors, and they are still pretty expensive right now. I don't think the mass market of consumers is very aware of video processors. Most of them use the deinterlacers and scalers found in DVD players and AVR's, but these are pretty inferior compared to the dedicated video processor.
Anyway, thanks for the post.
Cheers! :)
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Aug 02, 2007 at 11:30 AM
Ganyan kalaki din dream kong HT room. Dedicated talaga!
more power! :D
Post by: 5Speed on Aug 02, 2007 at 05:31 PM
Parang lasingero ka rin, ah ... :)
D ako, ha ... Mga friends ko lang. ;D ;D
nde rin ako lasinggero bro.....mga friends ko din ang ganon ;D ;D
just enjoying a good wine and some cheese/snacks while watching a good movie with friends...
meron din ako dating naipon na mga wines, kaso nauuubos talaga kapag me sessions....lalo na kapag long holidays.... :)
Your denon avr2807 is very good for its price (denon AL24 audio processing starts at this model)....that audyssey software really works wonder, adding this 2807 to your power amps will further enhance your movie experience.....A friend of mine have that as well and after watching and listening in his setup, muntik na akong makapag-upgrade ng AVR......hehehehe
ganda sigurong manood dyan sa theatre mo ng Die Hard 4 or Transformers......herherherher
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 02, 2007 at 08:44 PM
Panalo sir!
Ganyan kalaki din dream kong HT room. Dedicated talaga!
more power! :D
And may your dreams come true! Trabaho lang at tiyaga! :)
nde rin ako lasinggero bro.....mga friends ko din ang ganon ;D ;D
just enjoying a good wine and some cheese/snacks while watching a good movie with friends...
meron din ako dating naipon na mga wines, kaso nauuubos talaga kapag me sessions....lalo na kapag long holidays.... :)
Your denon avr2807 is very good for its price (denon AL24 audio processing starts at this model)....that audyssey software really works wonder, adding this 2807 to your power amps will further enhance your movie experience.....A friend of mine have that as well and after watching and listening in his setup, muntik na akong makapag-upgrade ng AVR......hehehehe
ganda sigurong manood dyan sa theatre mo ng Die Hard 4 or Transformers......herherherher
Paano ko nga maging collector ng wines? Pwede pa DVD, CD, die-cast, comics, kasi d sila nawawala ... pero ang wine kasi nauubos. ;D
Iba nga talaga ang system kapag may Denon AVR with Audyssey. Dami mo biglang naririnig na d mo narinig dati. :)
Post by: Superman on Aug 02, 2007 at 09:44 PM
Post by: doughn on Aug 03, 2007 at 12:00 AM
Post by: Huddaf on Aug 03, 2007 at 07:55 AM
Painum ka naman dyan ser! EB tayo sa inyo! :D :D :D
Superb!
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 03, 2007 at 01:33 PM
CLASSY set-up! Excellent! CONGRATULATIONS! :D
hataw na dedicated HT room. congrats
Ganda! :)
Painum ka naman dyan ser! EB tayo sa inyo! :D :D :D
Superb!
Thanks, guys. :)
Pinaghirapan talaga ito. Dami years in preparation ... at hanggang ngayon, may mga upgrades pa rin but not as much as before.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Aug 03, 2007 at 09:57 PM
only in my dream would i have this setup........ :-[ :-[ :-[
congratulations!
Post by: chicksman on Aug 03, 2007 at 11:56 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 06, 2007 at 09:59 AM
Magnificent setup sir !!!
only in my dream would i have this setup........ :-[ :-[ :-[
congratulations!
Grabe! I love your theater man! Classic ang dating ng interior! Pati mga lumang equipment napakinabangan pa rin! Galing! 5 thumbs up!! Akin na lang yung VHS mo kung ayaw mo na gamitin!
Thanks!
Chicksman ... Tungkol sa S-VHS player ko, sinabi ko na nga na magandang paper weight sya, eh! E kailangan ko sya kasi dami ko paper. Yung panrolyo ng damo ... Joke lang. Hehe. ;D ;D
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 06, 2007 at 12:47 PM
Great.... :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 06, 2007 at 01:34 PM
Sir, I scrolled over again...& again ... it's really dream theater came TRUE, cozy place with traditional english ambiance, but most specially the system set-up. seguro masarap din e-play dyan some classical musical music, like one of my faves; Fanfare for the common man... ;D ;D
Great.... :)
Thanks! Actually, after napagod ako manood ng sine, inaakyat ko screen para kita ang painting, nakikinig ako ng music at nagbabasa ng book. Latest book ko is "The Beatles" ;D kaya nakikinig din ako Beatles music. Pero sarap nga to listen to classical music bago ka matulog. Sarap tulog pagkatapos. Pero sa music, the system sounds much better with all speakers umaandar, kahit CD. Ung Dolby PLIIx or DTS:Neo 6 or one of the music DSP's of the Denon AVR. That's the way kasi the system is set up. Optimized for multi-channel. Kaya d sya gaya ng system ni Alvin or ni Superman. Alvin has a multi-channel system but currently, it's optimized for 2-channel. Ang galing. E si Superman ay 2-channel talaga, turntable pa! Pero happy na ako sa multi-channel ko.
Actually, I keep updating the texts of the descriptions of my theater ... and every now and then, I add more photos. Matagal na rin kasi ang theater ko and there are a lot of small details na ginawa ko or na-experience ko. Kaya as I remember things, I share them with you guys.
Cheers. :)
Post by: jerix on Aug 07, 2007 at 08:29 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 08, 2007 at 10:02 PM
Sir m just inspired to see more pics of your HT. ;)
Just posted a couple more pictures. I hope these continue to inspire you! :)
Post by: docelmo on Aug 09, 2007 at 08:57 AM
Man! Ganda ng 5th element screenshots!
Bro, is this SD dvd passing thru ur HD PJ?
Congrats again!
btw, if ever iam in mnl i stay in paco....malapit lang sayo ;D
would be cool to see your HT...iam inviting myself na...
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 09, 2007 at 12:05 PM
Man! Ganda ng 5th element screenshots!
Bro, is this SD dvd passing thru ur HD PJ?
Congrats again!
btw, if ever iam in mnl i stay in paco....malapit lang sayo ;D
would be cool to see your HT...iam inviting myself na...
;D
Thanks! SD dvd lang ang ginagamit ko pero dumadaan nga sa video processor and the pj can handle 1080p input. Wala pa ako HD-DVD or BD. Iniisip ko pa rin.
Ang lapit nga namin sa Paco. Anak ko nga ay nag-aaral sa Chinese school sa Paco. Walking distance sa bahay. PM mo lang ako pag pupunta ka Manila para bisita ka sa HT. Better kung weekend. Dala ka pulutan. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2007 at 11:19 AM
When you get hooked to the home theater hobby, there are a couple of moments when you get really excited. That’s when you have an improvement in your system which is a kind of quantum leap over the previous. In my personal experience, those “wow” moments have been the following:
1. The first time I listened to a 5.1 system, with the bullets zinging from behind you and the planes roaring round you. My first recollection of a 5.1 system was in the late 80's but I got my first system in the early 90's. Up to now, this is the hook that catches most new customers. Kaya bibili ka ng basic 5.1 system.
2. The DVD. This was such a vast improvement from VHS and laser disc. Kaya bili ka ng DVD player and, more expensive, all those DVD bala. I recall this happened in the late 90's.
3. Dolby Digital and DTS. This was light years better than Dolby Pro-Logic. Kaya bili ka ng sound processor (or receiver) that can handle DD and DTS. This happened at the same time as DVD's.
4. I personally did not see that huge an improvement between 5.1 and 6.1 or 7.1 but there is a big difference between Dolby Pro-Logic and Dolby Pro-Logic II. Kaya bili ka uli ng bagong processor. This was already in the early 2000's.
5. The first time you see a projector and big screen. WOW! The big screen makes a huge difference. Kaya bili ka ng projector at screen!
6. The selection and improvement of speakers. Very often, you can hear huge improvements in sound as you buy or upgrade to better speakers. I must have upgraded my speakers 6 or 7 times. Nevertheless, it is very easy to waste money in speakers. In my view, if you want to upgrade your speakers, it is better to look at a new speaker that you are pretty certain will be much much better than your current set, not just marginally better. It's that "wow" factor. Oftentimes, that means saving up to buy much more expensive speakers (easily twice the cost of your present speakers) or finding a top-notch 2nd hand speaker set at less than half the original cost. Patience at swerte na lang yun.
7. The power amplifier. As you upgrade your speakers, you realize that your power amp is not bringing out the best in your speaker kaya napapabili ka ng matching power amp. Actually, what happens is bibili ka muna ng receiver. Later, unti unti ka bibili ng separate power amp kaya nagiging useless tuloy ang built-in power amp ng receiver mo.
8. The room. In my case, and I think this is true with a lot of people, this has been the most expensive part of my hobby kasi gagawa ka ng dedicated room with all the expensive acoustic treatments and furniture. Kailangan mo talaga ng consultant because it’s very expensive to make a mistake. You can change equipment but how can you change your room? I did a lot of research before I built my theater – and I can tell you that it was a fun experience!
9. Digital projectors. My previous projector was a very good Barco 3-gun CRT projector, but it really pales in comparison to my Sony VPL-VW100. In all aspects except maybe black level. For many years, CRT projectors reigned supreme pero parang LP sila na nabaon ng digital technology ng CD. Yet, it may have been only last year that digital technology reached a point wherein prices became affordable to a lot of people.
10. Video processor. A good video processor, combined with a good projector, can produce magic. Parang HD, or at least very close to it. Kaya ako napabili ng DVDO VP-50. For a long time, only Faroudja and Runco had good processors. In just the last few years, several companies have developed new technologies and have significantly brought down the price.
11. HDMI cables. Previously, I had an S-video cable with booster. I had also tried component cables but there was virtually no difference with the S-video cable. The S-video cable has a huge improvement over composite cables. Well, the HDMI cable has the same huge improvement over S-video. I guess the reason is that now, there is a pure digital signal from the DVD player to the video processor to the projector. HDMI is really new, baka last year lang.
12. Room-correction technology. It has always been recognized that any room (except the extremely expensive anechoic chambers or similar professional set-ups) will influence the acoustics so that you have a less than flat response across the frequency spectrum. This is why there had been attempts by some companies to market room-correction systems, such as the JBL Synthesis system and the Direct-Drive subwoofers of Velodyne. Both are extremely expensive. Relatively recently (maybe just the past 2 years), we have new technology from “Audyssey” that provides excellent room correction and packages it in receivers (Denon, Marantz, etc.). The improvement in sound is tremendous. I have this technology in my Denon receiver. Kulang na lang is the room-correction para sa subwoofer, and this is retailed by Velodyne as their SMS-1. Baka yun ang sunod na bilhin ko.
Before the Audyssey technology was available, all that you could do was set the levels of the volumes of the speakers with a Radioshack SPL meter. My receivers also had built-in parametric equalizers so that in theory, I could do the room-correction, provided I had the proper equipment – which is pretty expensive and I don’t think it could have done as good a job as the Audyssey.
13. I want to add SACD and DVD-Audio. These were developed in the late 90's and at that time, baka $2000 ang mga unang player. To be honest, I only got a chance to listen to these recently - my focus had shifted so much to HT, not audio. But the "WOW" factor was definitely there. Ibang iba ang dating ng SACD and DVD-A.
In addition to equipment, the “services” which have given me a “WOW” response have been the following:
1. Video calibration. I have the Avia and Video Essentials discs, which allow you to do the 5 basic adjustments: contrast, brightness, sharpness, color and hue. However, it cannot calibrate color temperature and gray-scale. If you don’t do this calibration, your blacks may look blue or red, and in general the colors will be wrong. Unfortunately, you need very special equipment and software to do that and I honestly don’t see anything similar to Audyssey cropping up in the near future for video. You need to request someone to do it for you. Here, let me put in a shameless plug for Alvin, who did the video calibration for my projector and the improvement has been huge. Thanks a lot, Alvin.
2. Speaker placement. There have been too many things written about the importance of speaker placement. All I can say is that they are all true. The improvements can be huge.
Among those things which are often hyped but which have not personally impressed me are the following:
1. Cables and interconnects. There are a lot of extremely expensive cables and interconnects, which promise audio (or video) nirvana. I have a few cables which are pretty expensive and honestly, I can’t tell the difference between them and cables which are fat, well-shielded and with good-quality plugs, but which cost 80% to 90% less. Plus, you need to regularly tighten all connections and use a contact cleaner.
2. Line conditioners and similar stuff. I have a decent AVR (with a time-delay function) and a good line conditioner, but I used to have an “active” UPS. It took the Meralco power, cleaned that and its output was continuous squeaky clean power. That UPS eventually died and I haven’t replaced it because I honestly can’t tell the difference.
3. DVD players. I already narrated in a previous post how, many years ago, I bought a high-end DVD player which turned out to have poorer picture quality than a cheap Chinese player. I feel that the current crop of high-end DVD players owe their higher costs to the video processing – deinterlacing and scaling mainly. However, I already have a high-end video processor so it’s pretty useless to buy one of these expensive players.
I am pretty happy with my set-up now and I guess have come to the point of diminishing returns when I better be prepared to spend a huge amount of money if I want to hear or see anything better. Actually, I have been thinking of a speaker upgrade – Revel, JMLab, B&W Nautilus … Pero parang kotse na yun, after which I may want to upgrade my power amps! Kaya hintay na lang ako muna. Ganun kasi itong hobby. As your system improves, you have to spend more and more money to make any discernible difference in your system.
The point that I wanted to make is that you should be careful about where you spend your hard-earned money when you upgrade your stuff. Be patient. Wait for the right moment and make sure there is that “WOW” factor. I don't know if a lot of people realize that a few years ago, in order to get a really good picture, you had to buy a Barco, Runco or Vidikron 9" CRT which cost P2 million and a Faroudja quadrupler which cost P1 million. Today, you can get that same quality for 10% of the price! Say a Sony Pearl and DVDO VP-30.
I guess all of this leads to HD-DVD and Blue Ray! Kasi di pa nga ako bumibili. The other day, nagbisita si DTS-ES and he brought his HD-DVD stuff. Ngayon, nag-iisip na naman ako, not because of the equipment but because of the bala. But I guess that’s the subject of another post.
I hope this long post was useful and I would appreciate comments.
Cheers!
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 20, 2007 at 12:48 PM
Post by: accastil on Aug 20, 2007 at 01:55 PM
there is only 1 goal, and its not really good sound, nor good picture....its self satisfaction :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2007 at 08:33 PM
Wow! sir streetsmart.... nothing left to say.... :o ;D 8) :D
ang haba bro! "the law of diminishing returns"....up to a point that you feel the need to spend no longer for an improvement, but only for another new toy, for a new sonic character, for visual delight.
there is only 1 goal, and its not really good sound, nor good picture....its self satisfaction :)
Thanks for the comments.
Well said, accastil.. I guess my point is that we should be patient and think things quite carefully before making any upgrade and not just buy for the sake of buying or showing off. Kung wala ka munang upgrade, bili ka na lang ng bala, but even there you should buy only what you know you will really like.
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 20, 2007 at 08:52 PM
I had a simple but decent system sa living area ko. My preamp was a MacIntosh C32, paired with a Bryston 3B power amp.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/mcintoshc32.jpg)
After a while, may defect ang Mac saka I wanted to try out a tube amp, so I bought a Golden Tube integrated amp. :) Actually, partly tube and partly SS. Binili ko kay Jim - ung nasa Spectra ngayon but used to be at Sights & Sounds, katabing shop sa Park Square 1.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/GoldenTube.jpg)
But after a while, nasira ung Golden Tube and it turned out that nagsara ang kumpanya so it was impossible to get parts. ??? While thinking this over, I realized that halos di ko na ginagamit ung system ko sa living area except when I had a party or as background music sa dinner. So, I decided to get the cheapest possible amp na binili ko rin kay Jim. Konzert! :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Konzert.jpg)
Bakya nga but for background music, it was definitely still good. Besides, ang ganda naman ng cabinet nya. :) Mas mahal pa nga ang cabinet. ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Konzertcabinet.jpg)
At maganda pa rin ang speakers. Celestion 300. Excellent speakers, but they can't play too loud.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Celestion300.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Celestionpair.jpg)
Bottom-line is very happy na ako sa kanya, for its purpose. :) If I want some serious listening, punta ako sa home theater ko.
Post by: audiojunkie on Aug 20, 2007 at 09:17 PM
Post by: mb88 on Aug 21, 2007 at 12:44 PM
Very wise words from an avid and serious enthusiast to all newbies in this hobby :) Very great set up! Top notch but very understated :)
Sorry I didnt have time to drop by. I hope the invitation still stands :D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 21, 2007 at 05:51 PM
I think sir, 'di downgrade. it just happened that mc and golden tube gone offline. :D Konzert SS int. amp for another taste... :o I like the bronze enlayed cabinet... ;D nice combi with celestion... 8)
Thanks sa comments.
Actually, marami pang gumagamit ng lumang McIntosh. Tingnan mo lang si mb88. :) They are really very good equipment though hard to maintain. And by the way, buhay pa rin ang McIntosh audio company! Ang Golden Tube lang talaga ang namatay.
Yung cabinet is from Thailand pero bili ko dito. Talagang sinukat ko sya at kasyang kasya lang ang amp. Had to remove the doors in order to put the amp inside. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 21, 2007 at 05:53 PM
streetsmart,
Very wise words from an avid and serious enthusiast to all newbies in this hobby :) Very great set up! Top notch but very understated :)
Sorry I didnt have time to drop by. I hope the invitation still stands :D
Thanks, even if you make me feel old. :( And honestly, I just want to share my experience with others.
Of course the invitation still stands. Long weekend coming again. :)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Aug 22, 2007 at 12:48 AM
Most . . . no. . . make that all of his audio and video equipments are top of the line well, high-end at least to me and none of them comes cheap. He even showed me some of his 24K gold plated audio cds. . .sorry for my ignorance pero meron pala talaga nito? But fr. all the a/v gears in the room, it’s the DVDO iScan & Sony Ruby that I’m interested with and for his 103” screen I would say sir Mark did a great job investing w/ the tandem. The DVDO processed the S-dvd movies that we played(fifth element, kingkong, n. jones concert, etc.) so clearly, colors are alive and vibrant. No wonder he hasn’t taken the Hi-def format route yet, of course he can afford it anytime but who needs it if he can get almost the same PQ w/ much cheaper S-dvd movies. He thought it wud be better if I bring my hd dvd player w/ me to test and compare so, I did. We picked scene 5 of kingkong hd dvd first & compared the standard version using iScan vp50’s video processing. Tho I find the resolution of the hi-def version seem a bit better, at 7m. viewing distance fr. the 103” screen, the 1080p processed dvd version is up to par in terms of color accuracy. And compared to 720p upscaled(run same scene when I got home) noise is less evident but more detailed & clearer resolution, you also get almost same 3D feel when viewing hi-def movies. The dvdo iScan paired w/ a 1080p native PJ truly shines when used w/ S-dvds. Its an upscaled 1080i/p w/o the blur plus the above mentioned improvements.
Thanks to sir Mark for the wonderful HT experience . . . mas BI ka kesa sa akin sir ;D pero . . . mas madami ako natutunan lalo na sa audio at SARS management. Actually pabili na naman sana ako ng speakers but after hearing your insights and experiences i learned to love what i have right now and decide to keep it for a long while not unless i hear something different, that WOW factor. Kaya once again . . . Thank you & to your wife for the delicious snack an of course sa . . . . . . . . . red wine.
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 22, 2007 at 01:30 PM
Most . . . no. . . make that all of his audio and video equipments are top of the line well, high-end at least to me
D naman top of the line. Eto ang top of the line! Thiel speakers. This was on sale sa Audio by Design several years ago at a relatively low price. Grabe tunog. Gusto ko sanang bilhin pero sabi ng vendor, dami na raw ito pinaputok na power amp kaya you would need to buy HUGE power amps to drive it. 2 ohms daw kasi. Kaya umatras ako. :(
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/ThielCS7.2.jpg)
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He even showed me some of his 24K gold plated audio cds. . .sorry for my ignorance pero meron pala talaga nito?
These are Sony CDs. Super-bit mapping. Parang super-bit DVD ng Sony. I don't think the gold helps to improve the sound. They just make the CDs less prone to humidity, mold, etc.
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The dvdo iScan paired w/ a 1080p native PJ truly shines when used w/ S-dvds. Its an upscaled 1080i/p w/o the blur plus the above mentioned improvements.
That's true, but as we agreed, mas maganda ang black detail ng HD-DVD, even at a 7m distance. Problem though is that the difference is not that big and maybe you can even adjust brightness to compensate for that. Kaya nga parang gusto ko munang maghintay till the technology stabilizes and prices go down, particularly ang bala nya.
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Thank you & to your wife for the delicious snack an of course sa . . . . . . . . . red wine.
Ang lakas mo pala uminom! ;D Talo mo ako. I had a good time too. Cheers!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Aug 22, 2007 at 05:53 PM
Yes sir, bumawi ang black level ng in-adjust mo yung brightness halos pareho na din sa hd dvd.
Ang lakas mo pala uminom! ;D Talo mo ako. I had a good time too. Cheers!
Di naman ;D . . . napapalagok lang everytime i-close up si Naomi Watts :D :D
Post by: gearhead on Sep 08, 2007 at 11:27 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 08, 2007 at 12:17 PM
well.... what more can i say. the pictures and the article/s (wow, parang magazine) speak for themselves. what i'm most impressed is the high ceiling sa ht room. for sure it adds to the ambiance especially concert/music cd's/dvd's. curious lang ako, yung mga kids nyo po ba is allowed to operate your equipment, or basically talagang nakikinood lang sila? parang more of for daddy's exclusive use ang ht room? ;D
Maganda nga ang high ceiling. It improves the natural acoustic qualities of the room, especially sa music. Dami nga ako concert na DVD. :)
No one can operate the system except me. I think you need to press maybe 12 switches and buttons para umandar siya. D rin masyado ma-appreciate ng bata ang theater unless may bisita sila. Dun lang sila nanonood with the obligatory popcorn. ;D
A friend of mine is building a home theater. Nagpalagay sya ng Crestron para automated lahat, pati curtains. Isang pindot lang at aandar na. It cost him close to 300,000. :o
Post by: gearhead on Sep 08, 2007 at 02:36 PM
No one can operate the system except me. I think you need to press maybe 12 switches and buttons para umandar siya. D rin masyado ma-appreciate ng bata ang theater unless may bisita sila. Dun lang sila nanonood with the obligatory popcorn. ;D
for sure very popular among their many friends ang kids n'yo. ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 10, 2007 at 11:12 AM
A friend of mine is building a home theater. Nagpalagay sya ng Crestron para automated lahat, pati curtains. Isang pindot lang at aandar na. It cost him close to 300,000. :o
For 300k, I will just switch em all manually. I earn 1k every viewing. By 300 movies sulit na yung manual operation. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 10, 2007 at 11:52 AM
For 300k, I will just switch em all manually. I earn 1k every viewing. By 300 movies sulit na yung manual operation. ;D
Agree ako dun. Grabe ang cost and each time you upgrade your equipment, babalik ka sa supplier at tatagain ka na naman.
However, I have another more sinister reason. ;D Kasi kung isang pindot lang at aandar na lahat, e di lalaspagin ng mga bata ang home theater system. Mabuti pa at manood na lang sila sa TV sa kabilang kwarto. ;D ;D
Post by: et414 on Sep 10, 2007 at 01:33 PM
That's true, but as we agreed, mas maganda ang black detail ng HD-DVD, even at a 7m distance. Problem though is that the difference is not that big and maybe you can even adjust brightness to compensate for that. Kaya nga parang gusto ko munang maghintay till the technology stabilizes and prices go down, particularly ang bala nya.
Great theater! ;D tanong ko lang how the DVDO compares to true hi def when you sit closer to the screen?
Post by: gearhead on Sep 10, 2007 at 02:10 PM
However, I have another more sinister reason. ;D Kasi kung isang pindot lang at aandar na lahat, e di lalaspagin ng mga bata ang home theater system. Mabuti pa at manood na lang sila sa TV sa kabilang kwarto. ;D ;D
tama... yan ang mga practical considerations. :D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 10, 2007 at 03:21 PM
Great theater! ;D tanong ko lang how the DVDO compares to true hi def when you sit closer to the screen?
The seats are currently around 6.5 to 7 meters from the screen. When you get to about 3 to 4 meters from the screen, you start to see more artifacts. But honestly, you don't want to get that close. Nakakaduling na kasi.
Also, ang liit talaga ng difference. If you spend the time looking for artifacts, rather than enjoying the movie or concert, siguro makakakita ka ng differences. But that's not supposed to be the objective of home theater!
Post by: MAtZTER on Sep 12, 2007 at 12:30 PM
A Meridian all-in-one thingie w/ dvd player, audiophile CDp, tuner, hybrid digital amplifier and faroudja video scaler. It was as big as a CD player only & doesnt heat upw/ its 5x100w (all chanels driven) hybrid digital amp. The sound was sooo clean!!!
The internal Faroudja scaler was just jaw dropping in its upscaling a standard DVD to crystal clear HD 1080p image on a Panasonic 103" plasma. A 40 year old remastered "GOLDFINGER" was demoed and the PQ was so stunning, you could see Sean Connery's facial blemishes (pimples). Meridian representative claimed that 70% of the image was "fixed" by the faroudja scaler.
Slim On-wall speakers w/ ribbon tweeters surprisingly filled the 100 sqm. room with sound w/ just 100w. plus the Meridian sub.
Cost is 8,000 for the all in one thing & the speakers cost another 8,000.
in DOLLAR$$
After all, Meridian is the Ferrari of the HiFi industry.
If your DVD collection reaches $8,000. JR of LIS argued that its better to buy this instead of renewing your entire DVD collection to bluray or HD DVD. It really made a lot of sense. Now if only I can find $8,000. :D
Now I am a believer of video processors!
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 12, 2007 at 02:02 PM
A Meridian all-in-one thingie w/ dvd player, audiophile CDp, tuner, hybrid digital amplifier and faroudja video scaler. It was as big as a CD player only & doesnt heat upw/ its 5x100w (all chanels driven) hybrid digital amp. The sound was sooo clean!!!
The internal Faroudja scaler was just jaw dropping in its upscaling a standard DVD to crystal clear HD 1080p image on a Panasonic 103" plasma. A 40 year old remastered "GOLDFINGER" was demoed and the PQ was so stunning, you could see Sean Connery's facial blemishes (pimples). Meridian representative claimed that 70% of the image was "fixed" by the faroudja scaler.
Slim On-wall speakers w/ ribbon tweeters surprisingly filled the 100 sqm. room with sound w/ just 100w. plus the Meridian sub.
Cost is 8,000 for the all in one thing & the speakers cost another 8,000.
in DOLLAR$$
After all, Meridian is the Ferrari of the HiFi industry.
If your DVD collection reaches $8,000. JR of LIS argued that its better to buy this instead of renewing your entire DVD collection to bluray or HD DVD. It really made a lot of sense. Now if only I can find $8,000. :D
Now I am a believer of video processors!
You must be referring to the Meridian G95 surround receiver. It's quite impressive that LIS has a unit because it is quite new.
For a Meridian product and given what it does, $8000 isn't really expensive! I am sure that the performance is very impressive. I agree with JR that a video processor may currently make more sense than HD or BD, especially if you currently have a lot of SD DVD's. It's like converting your entire SD DVD collection to "nearly" HD/BD. Cheaper nga. :)
I have a bias, however, against integrated equipment. I want to have the freedom to change or upgrade individual components. Of course, the other problem is that $8000 is a lot of money.
I would argue that if you want to get a very good video processor, you can get the DVDO VP-30, which is $2000. Over time, you can upgrade your other equipment - amps, speakers, etc. Thus, over time, you can get a system that comes close to the Meridian, but you don't have to wait to save $8000 before getting a video processor.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2007 at 11:42 AM
First was the purchase of a 94" wide high-gain screen c/o Matzter. Incredibly inexpensive. I decided to get a high-gain screen because with age, my projector was losing light output. The high-gain screen makes the picture brighter. The problem with high-gain screens is that, similar to LCD's, when you sit to the side, there is a loss of brightness. However, this doesn't apply to my room which is pahaba. I am pretty happy with the screen, except that no matter what you do, you can't remove all the creases. I think you can see some of the creases in the picture. Pero pag may image na sya, di naman napapansin ang creases.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/hi-gainscreen.jpg)
Next, I moved the projector forward by more than a meter. Kasi, as you move the projector forward, the light output increases. Of course, there is a limit to the distance between projector and screen.
Third, I found a tweak in AVS Forum which adjusts the opening of the iris in the projector through the Service Menu. There is a huge increase in picture brightness.
Finally, I had to beg Alvin to come back to the house with his video calibration equipment. It seems that you need to re-calibrate your projector each time you change the screen. Alvin spent 3 hours calibrating the projector! I learned a lot.
Here is a screen shot after I did all of the tweaks.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementBx.jpg)
Here is the older set-up. I think you can see the difference, even in the screen shots.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelement.jpg)
Happy na ako sa video ... For now. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2007 at 12:03 PM
Firstly, I put the subwoofer in a corner. I always used to think that the subwoofer should never be placed in a corner. Ang dami kong binasa na ganun ang advice. Recently, however, I started reading articles which recommended that you put the subwoofer in a corner. http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=177449
I tried it out and the result is tremendous. You can hear the big difference on CD's and DVD concerts where there is a complicated bass guitar sequence. For example, Jack Bruce of Cream. You can now distinctly hear each bass note. Here's the sub now, nakatago sa sulok. Di na nga makita.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/subcorner.jpg)
Secondly, I had 2 large area carpets. However, there was still a big gap of granite floor between the 2 carpets and that gap happens to be between the speakers and the listening area. I put an extra carpet so that there was no exposed hard floor to cause reflections, and the result was incredible. Parang nawala ang "muddiness" of the previous set-up. The only problem now is that halo-halo ang design ng mga carpet. Maybe I need to get a single big carpet ... :( Eto ang floor with the new carpets. Puno na talaga ng carpet.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/carpets.jpg)
Then, I re-aligned the 2 front speakers with a laser pointer, making sure that the tweeter was pointed at the main listening position. Without a laser pointer, ang hirap to do the proper toe-in. Plus, I removed the speaker covers. This made a huge improvement in the imaging. Ang tunog ngayon ay parang wala nang speakers, which is the objective.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/spkrcoveroff.jpg)
Finally, I ran the Audyssey room correction of the Denon receiver. Ayos na! Galing ng sound and it didn't cost me anything.
Very happy na rin ako sa audio... Again, for now. ;D
Post by: tonedeaf on Sep 29, 2007 at 03:16 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2007 at 05:42 PM
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 29, 2007 at 06:37 PM
Post by: gearhead on Sep 30, 2007 at 03:16 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 30, 2007 at 03:35 PM
I learned many things also about A/V calibration, sub location, and even carpet gap that made huge difference... Nice! ;D
That's nice to hear. :) I want to share my personal experiences so that people here can learn useful things while avoiding the mistakes that I had made in the past.
I am constantly researching and experimenting, to find ways to improve picture and audio quality. There are a lot of small things you can do, which make sense, that can improve quality and yet may cost you very little. On the other hand, in my humble opinion, you may spend a lot of money (like super-expensive cables and interconnects, spikes, etc.) and yet get nothing in return except the chance to show off some very expensive gear.
That doesn't mean that I won't buy expensive gear. ;D Have just ordered an upgrade to my video processor, which is pricey but is state-of-the-art in reducing noise and adding detail. ;D The point is that I am pretty sure that it will greatly improve picture quality kaya okay lang.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 30, 2007 at 03:44 PM
congrats, sir. mukhang talagang pinaghahandaan nyo pagbisita namin. sobrang pinagaganda nyo pa talaga. hehe. dun sa screencaps nyo kitang-kita difference. big improvement talaga in brightness, sharpness, contrast and color. about the carpets, maybe it's time for you to give a ring to the one selling carpets here in pdvd. to me though, di naman masagwa yung combinations ng carpets/rugs nyo as it is. happy viewing.
Hehe ... ;D Sa tingin ko, pangit talaga combination ng mga carpets! ;D Yung 2 ay modern, yung 2 ay persian. Dapat modern lahat o persian lahat. Pero pinag-iisipan ko pa kung ano gawin. Better still, tama ka ... isang malaking carpet na lang.
Thanks sa observation sa picture quality. Sa audio, di mo naman makita difference kung di mo pakinggan pero gumanda talaga audio! ;D
Pinag-research ko talaga how to improve the picture quality. The next step is an improved video processor. Pagkatapos nun, HD at BD na lang siguro ... pero ayaw ko pa rin ... masyado pang mahal ang bala at saka parang HD na rin quality ng picture ko. :) Problema minsan ay parang nakakalungkot kung wala ka nang maisip to improve picture quality. ;D
Sabihin mo na lang when kayo punta ng kapatid mo. Dala kayo popcorn. ;D
Post by: deo on Sep 30, 2007 at 04:13 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 30, 2007 at 05:54 PM
super classy..parang mga "godfather" ang tumatambay dito. Congrats!
Di naman. Tito ko yun ... Eto sya. ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Godfather.jpg)
Post by: MAtZTER on Oct 01, 2007 at 12:58 PM
except that no matter what you do, you can't remove all the creases.
You can sir, but it involves drilling a hole on the wall. The screen was designed to be supported by 2 stable screws (very important) on the lower part of the screen. Most improvisations are not stable & defeat the design of the screen (the tension pull is not achieved correctly), thereby causing those creases.
Try it sir :).
Post by: jerix on Oct 02, 2007 at 03:10 PM
Finally, I had to beg Alvin to come back to the house with his video calibration equipment. It seems that you need to re-calibrate your projector each time you change the screen. Alvin spent 3 hours calibrating the projector! I learned a lot.
Dito kami lalong inggit sir...
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2007 at 05:44 PM
You can get the basic adjustments of brightness, contrast, color, hue and sharpness by using Avia or Video Essentials, but not the grayscale and gamma.
In order to get good grayscale and gamma, you need to adjust the bias and gain of red, blue and green. That's six variables. In my projector, each variable may have 150 steps. Figure out the math on the number of combinations! If you don't have the proper equipment, its literally impossible to get the calibration right. And when it's done right, you can really tell the difference.
Alvin's calibration equipment probably costs around $5000. :o Alvin charges a reasonable fee and I believe it is well worth it.
Siguro, kapag retired na ako, dun ako bibili ng sarili ko calibration stuff and spend my time calibrating projectors of pinoydvd members. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 04, 2007 at 07:15 PM
The main improvements in the VP50Pro have been the following:
1. Fine detail enhancement
2. Edge enhancement (or de-enhancement)
3. Mosquito Noise reduction
Its hard to appreciate without a long explanation but I think screenshots would be better. In August, I posted screenshots of my original set-up, including this one:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelement.jpg)
Last month, I did a few tweaks and the image improved:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementBx.jpg)
With the upgraded video processor, here's the latest image:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementVPPro3.jpg)
Here's another set of comparison shots. Prior to upgraded video processor:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementscientist.jpg)
After upgrade:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementVPPro2.jpg)
Here's a last set. Prior to upgrade:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementBruceWillis.jpg)
After upgrade:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5thelementVPPro1.jpg)
I am still tweaking the new video processor and trying to understand it more but so far, I am pretty satisfied. I think the screenshots speak for themselves. There is a lot more detail coming out and even the colors seem to be affected, in a positive way.
Post by: audiojunkie on Nov 04, 2007 at 07:28 PM
Post by: Kobe Bryant on Nov 04, 2007 at 11:16 PM
thanks
Post by: pjohn on Nov 04, 2007 at 11:20 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 05, 2007 at 07:15 AM
A good thing about DVDO is that they have an upgrade program. The problem is that video processor technology is constantly improving and so DVDO typically does an upgrade every year. If you think the upgrade is worthwhile, you can trade in your old unit.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 05, 2007 at 09:49 AM
Wow! it's really a Big leap in PQ, more natural shades and colors..... :o :o 8)
Yes, the PQ has improved significantly but honestly, I still don't fully understand why. ;D
What I find most amazing is the last screenshot with Bruce Willis. You can see a lot more detail in the background, especially the faces of the black guys. Sometime, you can achieve that by increasing brightness but in this case, after installing the VP50Pro and calibrating brightness/contrast, I actually had to REDUCE brightness from "59" to "49" which will normally "crush" black detail. Kaya nga nakakagulat why you can see more black detail. And these are SD sources. I still don't want to buy HD-DVD or BD.
Here are the photos that DVDO posted which convinced me to buy the VP50Pro.
Without enhancement:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/parrotNoProcess.jpg)
With fine detail enhancement:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/parrotDetailEnhanced.jpg)
With edge enhancement:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/parrotEdgeEnhanced.jpg)
The differences are quite clear. However, it seems that a lot of people use negative edge enhancement, so that is what I have done as well, along with very aggressive fine detail enhancement and mosquito noise reduction.
Post by: pekspert on Nov 05, 2007 at 10:36 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 05, 2007 at 01:28 PM
grabe di pa naka hd source yan ang linaw na :). What happened to your old dvdo upscaler (30 series ata yun)? did you trade it in?
The old video processor (not just upscaler) was a VP50. I traded it in for the VP50Pro, kaya wala na sya.
My objective is still to improve the pq of my sd sources (without changing the projector! ;D). Next step is to change screen again to an even higher gain (2.8 ;D). Parating na ang bagong screen. Sana next week na dumating. Will post screenshots pag nakabit na.
Post by: audiojunkie on Nov 05, 2007 at 02:41 PM
for those with other priorities like me, it's really a dream theater but you it's a reality... ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 05, 2007 at 04:59 PM
Sir Streetsmart ikaw ang bago kong idol here in Pdvd aside from MatZter. You really have an awesome set-up. It's now one of my dreams to experience your system and theater. 8)
for those with other priorities like me, it's really a dream theater but you it's a reality... ;D
Thanks for the post! :)
D pa naman tapos ang dream ko. Dami ko pa sana gusto gawin kapag may pera na. Ganun naman lagi, e. ;D
Pagbalik mo sa Pinas, may open invitation ka sa HT ko. :)
Post by: gearhead on Nov 05, 2007 at 05:08 PM
Next step is to change screen again to an even higher gain (2.8 ;D). Parating na ang bagong screen. Sana next week na dumating. Will post screenshots pag nakabit na.
hmm... mukhang iba na ang screen nyo pag-audition namin, ah. ;D mas malaki na ba itong bago, sir?
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 05, 2007 at 05:33 PM
hmm... mukhang iba na ang screen nyo pag-audition namin, ah. ;D mas malaki na ba itong bago, sir?
Hehe. ;D
Mas malaki sya. 119" diagonal. 16x9. 103" yata ang width. Da-lite High Power material.
I think this is about the limit of the size of screen, given the viewing distance and the light output from the projector. I can still tweak the service menu of the projector to get a brighter image pero pag masyadong malapad ang screen, nakakaduling kaya mas madali mapagod mata mo.
Pag nakuha ko na bago screen, benta ka ng mura ang dati. Hardly used pa nga.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 17, 2007 at 05:31 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/HPscr.jpg)
It's a Da-Lite 119" diagonal screen made from "High Power" material. Gain is 2.8
I tried my best to source it through local dealers but only one gave me a quotation and it was almost 4 times the cost vs the US price. I found it sa Amazon, had it shipped to NY office of Johnny Air Cargo, who then trans-shipped it to Manila. Total cost was half the local quotation. Bilib din ako sa Johnny Air that they could handle such a big and bulky item without any problem.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 17, 2007 at 05:36 PM
Problem with a new screen, in combination with the new video processor, is that you need to re-calibrate the video. Ginawa this morning by the technician of AV Driver (which supplied the video processor). Ang galing din talaga ng AV Driver technician. We spent nearly 4 hours doing the calibration.
There is a perceptible improvement in video quality but may be hard to appreciate sa screenshots lang. Nonetheless:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/HPscrShakesp2.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/HPScrShakesp1.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/HPscr5thele.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 17, 2007 at 05:41 PM
While it can improve the picture of any DVD, I think it can be best appreciated when you are watching older material whose picture quality is soft. The video processor greatly improves the picture.
As a result, I am now even less inclined to jump into the HD bandwagon. Kasi ang dami kong SD na DVD na ngayon ay parang HD na! :)
Post by: tonedeaf on Nov 17, 2007 at 07:51 PM
Post by: kefq on Nov 17, 2007 at 09:46 PM
Post by: gearhead on Nov 17, 2007 at 10:09 PM
tama nga, there's value to be had by sticking to your current cache of SD DVD especially if high bitrate naman... and then investing in a good standalone processor. if we say mga P1k on average ang premium ng HD-DVD/blu-ray against standard dvd's, mga 30 titles lang bawi ka na. kung meron kang mga 100 or more titles, all of that will benefit from the better performance of that external video processor.
congrats ulit, sir mark. ;)
Post by: danrd on Nov 17, 2007 at 11:08 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 18, 2007 at 07:15 AM
Got to see the theater kanina. Very down to earth guy, madaling kausap. Thank you Mark for accomodating me. Sayang was not able to stay longer. Panood na lang next time, anyway your place is just a stone throw away ;)
Sayang nga that you couldn't stay longer. E paano naman:
1) Kina-calibrate pa ang picture. 2 p.m. kami natapos.
2) Naghihintay yung special mo na service vehicle. Secret. ;D
D bale, kapitbahay naman pala tayo. Next time na lang.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 18, 2007 at 07:32 AM
tama nga, there's value to be had by sticking to your current cache of SD DVD especially if high bitrate naman... and then investing in a good standalone processor. if we say mga P1k on average ang premium ng HD-DVD/blu-ray against standard dvd's, mga 30 titles lang bawi ka na. kung meron kang mga 100 or more titles, all of that will benefit from the better performance of that external video processor.
With the external video processor, nagiging near-HD quality ang mga SD DVD with high bit-rate or basta generally well-produced. In fact, I would say that they many will look just as good or even better than some HD discs, especially when combined with my projector.
Pero mahilig din ako sa older material na ang ganda naman ng movie for the movie's sake, such as: Passage to India, Ordinary People, Sophie's Choice, Bonnie and Clyde, It Happened One Night, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, etc., most of which might take a lot of years before they come out on HD-DVD. Without an external video processor, these DVD's would look generally soft but with the vp, the pq improves a lot so you don't get distracted by the poor picture.
Actually, I have exactly 931 SD DVD titles, boxsets counted as one, including 234 concerts. ;D My thinking is that each time I improve my current set-up, each of those DVD's appreciates in "viewing value." Right now, its pretty fun to watch an older SD DVD na nakalimutan ko na storya. With the new video processor and screen, the experience is really different! :)
Hope you can come soon sa bahay! Sa concerts lang ay magsasawa ka ng husto. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 18, 2007 at 07:40 AM
Outstanding results!! :o :o :o Hope I could calibrate mine like that soon. Congrats Streetsmart. :)
Thanks! :)
Dan, ang ganda nga ng set-up mo. :) I am sure it will improve a lot with professional calibration.
Why not ask Alvin? Baka bigyan ka magandang presyo. Mababait naman tayo, e. :)
Post by: docelmo on Nov 18, 2007 at 07:50 PM
WOOOW!!
Keeps getting better and better.....Looks Hi-Def already!
Now you have to watch your 900 dvds all over again!
Congrats sir!
;D
Post by: tonedeaf on Nov 18, 2007 at 09:29 PM
Actually, I have exactly 931 SD DVD titles, boxsets counted as one, including 234 concerts. ;D
dami! :o :o
congrats on new additions to the set up.
Post by: kefq on Nov 18, 2007 at 10:16 PM
2) Naghihintay yung special mo na service vehicle. Secret. ;D
Especial talaga yon bro ;D
top down na 2 seater ;) Hindi ko na nga bebenta yung mga Theater Seats ko and Movie Poster, na inspire uli ako na ayusin yung HT ko after going to your place. :o
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 09:23 AM
WOOOW!!
Keeps getting better and better.....Looks Hi-Def already!
Now you have to watch your 900 dvds all over again!
Congrats sir!
;D
Hi Doc! Di ba paborito mo Beatles? Mga 20 na yata ang Beatles ko na DVD, including their Anthology. Yun ang mga masarap panoorin uli! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 09:31 AM
dami! :o :o
congrats on new additions to the set up.
What's more important to me is not the quantity of DVD's but the quality. Kaya ngayon, as much as possible, I check out reviews before buying any DVD. Pero syempre, may mga exception. ;D
Regarding the new additions, thanks for the congrats. Problema ko nga is that wala na ako masyado maisip para ma-improve pa. Kasi rin, for the meantime, ayoko uli bumili ng HD or BD. Kakalungkot. Except ... aircon - pangarap ko palitan ng ducted para super tahimik. Maganda kasi sound-proofing ng HT ko, kaya tuloy parang motorsiklo ang tunog ng aircon. :(
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 09:34 AM
Especial talaga yon bro ;D
top down na 2 seater ;) Hindi ko na nga bebenta yung mga Theater Seats ko and Movie Poster, na inspire uli ako na ayusin yung HT ko after going to your place. :o
Ok sana ayusin mo HT mo para may madalaw rin ako na kapit-bahay enthusiast. ;D
Maganda ang CRT mo with 8" lens! I hope you can set it up well, along with the rest of your stuff! Tulungan kita, kung gusto mo, with my very limited knowledge. :)
Post by: docelmo on Nov 19, 2007 at 11:50 AM
Hi Doc! Di ba paborito mo Beatles? Mga 20 na yata ang Beatles ko na DVD, including their Anthology. Yun ang mga masarap panoorin uli! :)
Yup! Mmmmm...tamang tama attend ako hospital convention next weekend!
I could dropby...i'll bring pili!
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 11:54 AM
Yup! Mmmmm...tamang tama attend ako hospital convention next weekend!
I could dropby...i'll bring pili!
;D
Sige, pero yung Mazapan, ha! ;D
Post by: jay2 on Nov 19, 2007 at 01:37 PM
How is the high gain screen compared to your previous screen?
thanks
jay
Post by: kefq on Nov 19, 2007 at 01:40 PM
Ok sana ayusin mo HT mo para may madalaw rin ako na kapit-bahay enthusiast. ;D
Maganda ang CRT mo with 8" lens! I hope you can set it up well, along with the rest of your stuff! Tulungan kita, kung gusto mo, with my very limited knowledge. :)
Salamat bro, hirap talaga mag converge ng lens ng CRT. Tamang tama pasyalan kita next week Mark kasi naka leave ako ng 1 week
Post by: ricky on Nov 19, 2007 at 01:59 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 02:38 PM
Sir Streetsmart,
How is the high gain screen compared to your previous screen?
thanks
jay
The normal screen has a gain of 1.0. This high-gain screen is 2.8 and it increases light output by 2.8 times.
My problem was that humihina light output ng pj ko over time. With the new screen, the picture is visibly brighter. Syempre mas maganda.
Pero kung malakas naman light output ng pj mo, you don't need a high-gain screen.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 02:41 PM
Salamat bro, hirap talaga mag converge ng lens ng CRT. Tamang tama pasyalan kita next week Mark kasi naka leave ako ng 1 week
Marami din ako experience sa convergence ng CRT. Barco nga lang but it should be similar to your Sony.
Sige, kung gusto mo, punta ka Sabado para maraming oras. Txt ka na lang.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 02:46 PM
Ang ganda ng colors,sarap haplusin :)
Tama ka, wag lang haplos kay Bruce Willis. Hehe. ;D
Parang 3-D kasi ang dating. I guess its the total effect of processor, projector and screen. :)
Aside from Bruce Willis, the screenshots came from Shakespeare in Love. Tinuro sa akin ng technician ng AV Driver. Reference material pala yun.
Post by: mb88 on Nov 19, 2007 at 02:54 PM
Sorry hadnt found time to drop by yet. (Good for me too :D)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 04:51 PM
Wow! Congratulations on your new gear! Definitely worth the upgrades. Was really tempted to buy your old screen to finally jumpstart my own theater. Buti na lang naunahan ;D
Sorry hadnt found time to drop by yet. (Good for me too :D)
Hi Melo! Lapit na pasko. Dapat may magandang regalo ka sa sarili mo. HT! ;D
Tukso, ano? ;D
Post by: Platinum on Nov 19, 2007 at 06:06 PM
I was SARSd ;D by the PQ of your HT!
So here, i'm planning to get a DVDO vp20 or vp30 video processor @ +/-US$2k. Medyo mahal na kasi vp50 (upgrade na lang later). Output thru my Panny AX-100. Pa advise naman Sir ng pros and cons. This is intended to maximize use of my existing SDs, similar as yours.
Thanks in advance and your posts really helped a lot to us here at PDVD. Mabuhay ka Sir.
-Platinum
Post by: mb88 on Nov 19, 2007 at 06:16 PM
In truth, I was already "kicked out" of the family room to set up the Christmas Tree! All my stuff are already in the basement---my new playground :)
Cheers!
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 06:21 PM
Idol streetsmart,
I was SARSd ;D by the PQ of your HT!
So here, i'm planning to get a DVDO vp20 or vp30 video processor @ +/-US$2k. Medyo mahal na kasi vp50 (upgrade na lang later). Output thru my Panny AX-100. Pa advise naman Sir ng pros and cons. This is intended to maximize use of my existing SDs, similar as yours.
Thanks in advance and your posts really helped a lot to us here at PDVD. Mabuhay ka Sir.
-Platinum
Just a quick note kasi have to rush to a meeting. Baka longer post bukas.
Quick advice is to get a VP30. Ang alam ko is that there is a big difference between VP20 and VP30 but difference between VP30 and VP50 is less. Kaya VP30 is a good buy.
Better to get it through AV Driver kasi sila ang distributor dito so it will be easier to upgrade in the future. They can give it to you at the MSRP dollar price. Also, you should insist that isama nila as added service ang video calibration. Libre na dapat yun.
Last advice for now is to request AV Driver that you audition the VP30 sa set-up mo. Yun ang the best kasi makikita mo talaga ang difference. You should be able to tell the difference immediately.
Cheers!
Post by: Platinum on Nov 19, 2007 at 06:49 PM
Sa bakasyon, will try to ask AVDI audition vp30 here in my place.
Regards and more blessings to you Sir. :)
Platinum
Post by: docelmo on Nov 19, 2007 at 07:12 PM
Thanks a lot Sir. Laking tulong at tip nito! AVDI is just a km away from my place.
Sa bakasyon, will try to ask AVDI audition vp30 here in my place.
Regards and more blessings to you Sir. :)
Platinum
Whoa! Congrats bro....on your upgrade path!!!
Luwas ako manila next week, and will visit the
awesome HT in this thread! Sana, i'll have time to see also
your new PJ and nice denon-b&w/rel set up!!!
;D
Post by: jay2 on Nov 19, 2007 at 09:52 PM
The normal screen has a gain of 1.0. This high-gain screen is 2.8 and it increases light output by 2.8 times.
My problem was that humihina light output ng pj ko over time. With the new screen, the picture is visibly brighter. Syempre mas maganda.
Pero kung malakas naman light output ng pj mo, you don't need a high-gain screen.
Thank you sir for the quick response. Gamit ko is ax-100 on a 133" screen. Wanted to upgrade my projector to 1080p kaso wala pang projector na 2000+ lumens na kasya sa budget. Would love to get sana yung vpl-60 kaso lumens parin ang problema specially pag nagtagal na ang bulb. The cheapest solution I think is liitan yung screen or taasan ang gain. I choose the latter :) Nagpadala ako ng sample fabric sa dalite pero di pa dumarating.
Ang dumating is a sample from sheerweave AT screen na 1.16 ang gain but not much ang difference sa screen ko ngayon. Playing on an idea kasi na ilagay ko speakers at the back of the screen and get a 2.40 screen para sinehan ang dating. Prob e kita ko yung perforations sa sitting position ko. :)
jay
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 19, 2007 at 10:38 PM
Thank you sir for the quick response. Gamit ko is ax-100 on a 133" screen. Wanted to upgrade my projector to 1080p kaso wala pang projector na 2000+ lumens na kasya sa budget. Would love to get sana yung vpl-60 kaso lumens parin ang problema specially pag nagtagal na ang bulb. The cheapest solution I think is liitan yung screen or taasan ang gain. I choose the latter :) Nagpadala ako ng sample fabric sa dalite pero di pa dumarating.
Ang dumating is a sample from sheerweave AT screen na 1.16 ang gain but not much ang difference sa screen ko ngayon. Playing on an idea kasi na ilagay ko speakers at the back of the screen and get a 2.40 screen para sinehan ang dating. Prob e kita ko yung perforations sa sitting position ko. :)
jay
Parang complicated yata problema mo. Una kasi ay ang laki ng screen mo! ;D
The Da-Lite High Power screen has very good reviews. I am sure na ok sya sa Sony VPL-VW60 with 119" screen but I am not sure sa 133" though it will *probably* be ok.
UPDATE: I have done some calculations and I believe that a Sony VPL-VW60 with a 133" screen with 2.8 gain will be fine. Even after the light output degrades and after calibration, such that the light output goes down to 25% of its rating, you will still get around 11 foot-lamberts, which should be fine. There is also an adjustment in the service menu of the projector which will result in an apparent increase in brightness.
However, based on experience, the projector should not be mounted too high. When this is done, a lot of the brightness is lost.
As an additional note, if you have such a huge screen, you definitely should have a 1080p projector! The additional resolution (or lack of it) is most noticeable as the screen size increases.
Post by: Munskie on Nov 28, 2007 at 05:44 PM
Post by: Munskie on Nov 28, 2007 at 05:47 PM
Thank you sir for the quick response. Gamit ko is ax-100 on a 133" screen. Wanted to upgrade my projector to 1080p kaso wala pang projector na 2000+ lumens na kasya sa budget. Would love to get sana yung vpl-60 kaso lumens parin ang problema specially pag nagtagal na ang bulb. The cheapest solution I think is liitan yung screen or taasan ang gain. I choose the latter :) Nagpadala ako ng sample fabric sa dalite pero di pa dumarating.yan ang uso sa states ngayon, cinemawide screens....2:35 or 2:40. pwede sya i zoom or use lens, para wala ng annoying black bars sa 2:40 movies. kaya lang lalaki yung gastos dahil you will need masking system pa when you use regular 16:9 video material. But if that happens you'll be the first to have cinemascope screen here in pdvd........ ;D ;D
Ang dumating is a sample from sheerweave AT screen na 1.16 ang gain but not much ang difference sa screen ko ngayon. Playing on an idea kasi na ilagay ko speakers at the back of the screen and get a 2.40 screen para sinehan ang dating. Prob e kita ko yung perforations sa sitting position ko. :)
jay
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2007 at 07:14 PM
sir 119 inch Fixed frame yung screen mo right? if you dont mind sir mark, can you PM me how much you got it?
The screen is actually manual. It rolls up. Will PM you.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2007 at 11:23 AM
yan ang uso sa states ngayon, cinemawide screens....2:35 or 2:40. pwede sya i zoom or use lens, para wala ng annoying black bars sa 2:40 movies. kaya lang lalaki yung gastos dahil you will need masking system pa when you use regular 16:9 video material. But if that happens you'll be the first to have cinemascope screen here in pdvd........ ;D ;D
For a 2.35 screen, my understanding is that you typically use a "Panamorph" lens which costs $2000, in combination with the proper video processor and projector. This combination results in the same "anamorphic" type of output as with 1.78 movies. It will expand the 2.35 material to fill up a 1.78 screen and then the lens will "squash" the image down to the 2.35 screen. It effectively increases the number of lines for 2.35 material.
The downside is that the normal 1.78 material will be smaller, unless you buy a motor for the lens which will cost another $1000, in which case you can readily shift between the Panamorph lens and the standard lens.
Mahal talaga. :)
Post by: jay2 on Nov 29, 2007 at 11:57 AM
All this is still an idea medyo mahal parin at marami pang gustong bilhin. Sana tumama ako sa lotto ;D
Jay
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2007 at 12:06 PM
Yung Aussiemorphic lens mas mura qoute sakin is around P25,000. Hindi nga lang kasing ganda ng reviews na prismasonic and panamorph. Marami naghihintay ng powerbuy ng panamorph hopefully baka this year. Another option may binebenta ang panamorph na "class B" which is cheaper and they have assured me na walang problem sa video quality.
All this is still an idea medyo mahal parin at marami pang gustong bilhin. Sana tumama ako sa lotto ;D
Jay
Mahal talaga although I am pretty sure that there will be a clear improvement in pq. Kasi naging anamorphic ang 2.35 material.
Question na lang is if it is worth it. At a certain point, all these incremental improvements cost more and more. May tinitingnan nga ako na video noise reducer, Algolith Flea, which costs $1000. Mahal ... ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2007 at 11:58 PM
It all started with an intense curiosity over the Algolith HDMI Flea, which is a video noise reduction device. A lot of people at AVS Forum have been raving about it and a lot of the Flea owners also had the DVDO VPO50Pro, which I own. I firmly decided to get one. But before the final decision, I asked a good friend and he almost hit me on the head and told me that I could get the top-of-the-line HD and BD players for less than that amount, and this would provide more bang for the buck!
I had tested both BD and HD in my HT and I was not tremendously impressed. It was very hard to distinguish between the video-processed SD vs the BD/HD. However, my friend did have a very good point. Furthermore, as I researched, I noted that the 3rd generation of HD/BD players had arrived and these seemed to be much more mature. Having previously sworn to indefinitely defer my purchase of HD/BD players, I had to justify this purchase so aside from its being cheaper than the Flea, I swore that I would not buy HD copies of SD DVD's that I owned, except for a very few titles (such as "The Fifth Element"), which I would use as comparisons. Also because of the big price difference, I resolved not to buy HD/BD discs unless there were favorable reviews of a particular disc. The point is that there have been many hi-def discs which have turned out to have video and/or audio quality the same as SD.
After doing more research, I decided to buy the Panasonic DMP-BD30 Bluray player and the Toshiba HD-A35 because of the good reviews they had received and because I felt they were the most appropriate for my system. In particular, the BD30 and A35 are among the very few players that can pass hi-def audio through hdmi 1.3a to an AVR.
Panasonic DMP-BD30 Bluray Player
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/pannybd-30.jpg)
Toshiba HD-A35 HD-DVD Player, mounted below my SD-DVD Pioneer 676
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/toshhd-a35.jpg)
After buying the hi-def players, I had a second dilemma. I was intensely curious about Dolby TruHD and DTS-MA, both of which can send the original audio masters. However, I had to get an AVR (or prepro) that could decode these internally. The logic was as follows:
1. I had a Denon AVR-2807, which used the Audyssey room correction technology to adjust the 9-band equalizer of the Denon, as well as set the distances and speaker levels. I found the Audyssey to provide a huge difference in audio quality.
2. Whenever the input audio signal passed through the 5.1 analog inputs of the Denon, they by-passed the Audyssey. These signals could be SACD or DVD-A but it was clear that they had not been processed by Audyssey and so the sound quality was badly compromised.
3. To get Dolby TruHD and DTS-MA, you could use either the analog inputs or buy a receiver that could pass HDMI 1.3 and handle the decoding of Dolby TruHD and DTS-MA. In the Denon world, these were the latest AVR's, with the cheapest being the 2808.
It was clear to me that if you wanted to fully enjoy Dolby TruHD or DTS-MA, you had to get the latest-generation AVR's. I immediately decided on the 2808 because the biggest difference with the more expensive Denons seemed to be the power amps, which I basically don't need because I have separate power amps. Furthermore, I firmly determined that this was my Christmas gift to myself. ;D ;D ;D
Denon AVR-2808CI
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/denon2808.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/hdtruhd.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/bdtruhd.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/bddtsma.jpg)
So what are my impressions? Essentially, I think I can say that there is definitely an improvement in pq and aq but compared to my previous system, which includes an advanced video processor, the improvement is subtle. You can sense the improvement and you can find it, but its not "night and day."
For the audio, there are subtle differences in detail, smoothness of surround and lower bass extension. Things like the fingers sliding through the frets of a guitar, or the panning of sound from front to back and up to down (which are more difficult than left to right). It's more realistic and you feel more like being "in the movie." But it is subtle. As someone at Pinoydvd pointed out, in a movie, I guess that a crash is a crash and a gunshot is a gunshot - hard to improve on that. Concerts should be better material to detect the difference and I have been trying to get concerts with high-def audio but there are so few. I only have two - "Dave Matthews Band" and "Jazz Legends." Both are good but if you try to switch between Dolby TruHD and plain Dolby Digital 5.1 or DTS, it is very hard to detect the difference. You can sense it but hard to pinpoint.
In addition, it appears the the new Denon AVR-2808 has made some minor improvements in audio over the old model, particularly in a new version of Audyssey which now uses 8 sampling points as opposed to 6 previously - there seems to be an improvement in the mid-bass.
For the video, there are subtle differences in greater detail, less grain, higher contrast. Again, in my system, it doesn't stare you in the face but its definitely there. Similar to hi-def audio, you can sense that there is an improvement but it's very hard to pinpoint exactly where. You have to pause the film and then compare it with its SD version and after 15 minutes of back-and-forth, mapapansin mo nga ang differences. Mas defined ang pilik-mata. Mas defined ang eye-bags. Mas maraming freckles. Parang "spot the changes." What makes it more difficult is that you are dealing with HDMI connections and they need to establish "hand-shakes." Paminsan, parang nalilito sila and you have to restart your system so that they can do the proper "hand-shake."
Here are a few shots of the Fifth Element (Bluray version):
The Fifth Element
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5th1-bd.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5th2-bd.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5th3-bd.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5th4-bd.jpg)
Bottom-line is that I'm pretty happy with my upgrade. E kasi, pasko! Merry X'mas!
Post by: Munskie on Dec 24, 2007 at 01:16 AM
With your evaluation, it really puts into proper perspective the value of a very good video processor. Its an alternative to those who still are weighing the cost of format war, and who still have sizable SD collection. Before the advent of HD, I was also looking into the possibility of getting one, but kahit ano gawin ko, mukhang di kaya ng budget ko. Thats why when the HD format came, I adopted it na and immediately stopped collecting SDs. For mere mortals like me, its the easier route in getting excellent PQ.
Merry Christmas sir.... ;D ;D
Post by: danrd on Dec 24, 2007 at 06:55 AM
Post by: docelmo on Dec 24, 2007 at 08:10 AM
WOW!!!
Massive Upgrade nga...
Congrats sir!!!!
;D
Post by: ricky on Dec 24, 2007 at 09:23 AM
Post by: pekspert on Dec 24, 2007 at 10:03 AM
nice upgrade, sudden jump to a/v hd ;), but based on the pictures, i dont see any difference between your sd and hd....laki ng nagagawa ng dvdo processor :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2007 at 11:42 AM
great update, Mark!! Kung kami, paunti unti yung upgrade sa HD.......ikaw, parang si Bob Beamon.....long jump kaagad into HD.
Hehe. Gusto ko all the way. Ayoko bitin. ;D
Pero nakahanap din ako paraan to lower net cost. Benta ng luma equipment at hanap ng bargain sa Amazon. ;D
With your evaluation, it really puts into proper perspective the value of a very good video processor. Its an alternative to those who still are weighing the cost of format war, and who still have sizable SD collection. Before the advent of HD, I was also looking into the possibility of getting one, but kahit ano gawin ko, mukhang di kaya ng budget ko. Thats why when the HD format came, I adopted it na and immediately stopped collecting SDs. For mere mortals like me, its the easier route in getting excellent PQ.
Ok na ang ginawa mo. Tama rin yun. But I am sure that lagi mo pa rin iisipin ang video processor!
Merry X'mas din! I'm sure that very happy ka sa bago mong set-up. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2007 at 11:44 AM
WOW!!!
Massive Upgrade nga...
Congrats sir!!!!
;D
Hi Doc! Pasko kasi. Wawa naman tayo sa lahat ng trabaho natin this year kaya pamasko naman sa sarili. SARS is in the air... ;D ;D
Sana punta ka uli Manila. Daan ka HT ko. Masaya yun. Sawa tayo sa concerts. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2007 at 11:53 AM
Congrats and its indeed a merry xmas for you ;) Nice review also,very straight and honest. Been tempted many times to jump into the new formats but cant justify the cost esp if the difference would not be that satifying for me,although Im sure sometime in the future I really have to spend for it ;D ;D ;D Dont really want to start collecting hd/bd titles that i already have in sd thats why im very much interested with the video processor na lang.Yes its more costly than buying both hd/bd players but i can still enjoy my more than 700 titles, but what if next year hd/bd titles started to get cheap? Haay itong hobby natin nakakabaliw ;D Bottomline is i still enjoy watching in my system, BASTA WAG LANG AKO PUPUNTA SA SITE NYO NILA MUNSKIE AT MR BNW etc;D ;D ;D kasi talagang convincing at nakakainggit :o :o :o ;)
Between plain SD and video-processed SD, there is a huge difference. Between video-processed SD and hi-def, the difference is subtle. I will try to post screenshots of the 3 types.
And then, there is the problem of bala. Tama ka talaga kasi P199 na lang ang SD + what about the huge SD collection.
Yet, tama ka rin that if hi-def titles go down in price, that's the cheapest way to get immediate outstanding pq.
Kung libre ka any time before New Year, daan ka sa amin. Then you can see and hear with your own eyes and ears the differences between plain SD, video-processed SD, hi-def video, plain DD and hi-def audio. It's an eye-opener. Very interesting. :)
Or kung gusto mo, plano namin ni Munskie to visit Alvin and his super-duper system! Sama ka. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2007 at 11:57 AM
So youre not using the dvdo processor anymore? baka pwede na yun sa P20k, akin na hahaha ;D
nice upgrade, sudden jump to a/v hd ;), but based on the pictures, i dont see any difference between your sd and hd....laki ng nagagawa ng dvdo processor :)
Hehe. P20k para sa DVDO VP50Pro? Ano akala mo sa akin? Santa Claus? ;D
The dvdo is still very very much needed! Palagay ko, 90% pa rin ng bibilhin ko na bala will be SD. Just a few special titles na kukunin ko sa hi-def.
You are right. Even sa screenshots, makikita mo na that there is hardly any difference. I will try to post comparison screenshots.
Merry X'mas!
Post by: deo on Dec 24, 2007 at 12:29 PM
Post by: ricky on Dec 24, 2007 at 03:22 PM
Between plain SD and video-processed SD, there is a huge difference. Between video-processed SD and hi-def, the difference is subtle. I will try to post screenshots of the 3 types.
And then, there is the problem of bala. Tama ka talaga kasi P199 na lang ang SD + what about the huge SD collection.
Yet, tama ka rin that if hi-def titles go down in price, that's the cheapest way to get immediate outstanding pq.
Kung libre ka any time before New Year, daan ka sa amin. Then you can see and hear with your own eyes and ears the differences between plain SD, video-processed SD, hi-def video, plain DD and hi-def audio. It's an eye-opener. Very interesting. :)
Or kung gusto mo, plano namin ni Munskie to visit Alvin and his super-duper system! Sama ka. ;D
Id rather not, as it is kulang na ako sa tulog kakaimagine at plano,paano pa kaya kung actual realization na :o ;D ;D ;D ;D Tukso layuan nyo ako ;D ;D ;D It will start with hd/bd player then projector then screen-hdmi cable then pre-pro or avr then yung pinakamalupit sa lahat yung mga GOOD TITLES :o thinking about it ninenerbyos na ako :-[ Sige pag nakalibre sa time tignan ko kung gaano kalakas self control ko :D
Post by: Munskie on Dec 24, 2007 at 03:33 PM
Id rather not, as it is kulang na ako sa tulog kakaimagine at plano,paano pa kaya kung actual realization na :o ;D ;D ;D ;D Tukso layuan nyo ako ;D ;D ;D It will start with hd/bd player then projector then screen-hdmi cable then pre-pro or avr then yung pinakamalupit sa lahat yung mga GOOD TITLES :o thinking about it ninenerbyos na ako :-[ Sige pag nakalibre sa time tignan ko kung gaano kalakas self control ko :Dhehehe......I feel you ricky (hehehe parang brokeback ah)......im actually experiencing that right now....wala nako ginawa kundi mag imagine at magplano sa HT project na ina asam ko. Tingin ako ng tingin sa mga HT galleries para makakuha ng design and ideas. Ginawa ko ngayon, is just to look at one HT design that I liked at wala ng iba. Para dina malito.
Buti pa si kuya Mark, dream theater nya andyan na. Pa-upgrade upgrade na lang ng devices and components. Pang Family and pang barkada pa talaga ang space. :)
Post by: ricky on Dec 24, 2007 at 05:04 PM
hehehe......I feel you ricky (hehehe parang brokeback ah)......im actually experiencing that right now....wala nako ginawa kundi mag imagine at magplano sa HT project na ina asam ko. Tingin ako ng tingin sa mga HT galleries para makakuha ng design and ideas. Ginawa ko ngayon, is just to look at one HT design that I liked at wala ng iba. Para dina malito.
Buti pa si kuya Mark, dream theater nya andyan na. Pa-upgrade upgrade na lang ng devices and components. Pang Family and pang barkada pa talaga ang space. :)
Si matz din pina feng shui kasi lagi din tulala ;D ;D ;D Kung alam lang nila na puros pagkakagastusan nasa isip natin. ;) Gayahin ko na lang style ni bro lakambini para makaiwas sa gastos :) :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2007 at 05:49 PM
Id rather not, as it is kulang na ako sa tulog kakaimagine at plano,paano pa kaya kung actual realization na :o ;D ;D ;D ;D Tukso layuan nyo ako ;D ;D ;D It will start with hd/bd player then projector then screen-hdmi cable then pre-pro or avr then yung pinakamalupit sa lahat yung mga GOOD TITLES :o thinking about it ninenerbyos na ako :-[ Sige pag nakalibre sa time tignan ko kung gaano kalakas self control ko :D
Hehe. ;D
Actually, I think it is really interesting to be able to compare various pq, depending on set-up (plain vanilla, deinterlacing and upscaling player, video processor, hi-def player). Same with aq. Then, you can plan out what you want for yourself, even over the long term.
PM mo lang ako when you want to come over. Or sama ka kila Alvin. Mas grabe pa yun! :)
Merry X'mas!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2007 at 05:55 PM
hehehe......I feel you ricky (hehehe parang brokeback ah)......im actually experiencing that right now....wala nako ginawa kundi mag imagine at magplano sa HT project na ina asam ko. Tingin ako ng tingin sa mga HT galleries para makakuha ng design and ideas. Ginawa ko ngayon, is just to look at one HT design that I liked at wala ng iba. Para dina malito.
Buti pa si kuya Mark, dream theater nya andyan na. Pa-upgrade upgrade na lang ng devices and components. Pang Family and pang barkada pa talaga ang space. :)
Marvin, I don't know if you've read this. Tells us why the color scheme of your HT is so important. Napapaisip tuloy ako. Kasi medyo luma na ang cloth walls ng HT ko and alam ko na kung saan bilhin na murang mura ang cloth. And then this thread says that mali talaga ang color ng walls ko (burgundy). Palitan ko sya with something more neutral.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=849430
By the way, while I was planning and building my HT, over the course of a year, madalas ako manag-inip tungkol sa HT ko. Madalas ako magising ng 4 a.m. at hirap matulog kasi may iniisip ako para sa HT. Ganun talaga yun! Kasi naman din, among other things, kapag na-plano mo maigi ang HT, you will enjoy it for many years with your family and friends, and it will be the best upgrade (or constraint, when it is badly planned) for your audio system.
By the way, Merry X'mas! :)
Post by: ricky on Dec 24, 2007 at 09:13 PM
Post by: niceNslow on Dec 24, 2007 at 10:41 PM
Post by: ESi on Dec 24, 2007 at 11:08 PM
I was a pleasure meeting a fellow hobbyist in the passion of AV! Im looking forward into seeing your gears in action soon!!! Thats one nice crib!!! Garden pa lang busog na ako and thats from the outside view!!!Happy Holidays sir Mark! ;D
Post by: Munskie on Dec 25, 2007 at 01:22 AM
Marvin, I don't know if you've read this. Tells us why the color scheme of your HT is so important. Napapaisip tuloy ako. Kasi medyo luma na ang cloth walls ng HT ko and alam ko na kung saan bilhin na murang mura ang cloth. And then this thread says that mali talaga ang color ng walls ko (burgundy). Palitan ko sya with something more neutral.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=849430
By the way, while I was planning and building my HT, over the course of a year, madalas ako manag-inip tungkol sa HT ko. Madalas ako magising ng 4 a.m. at hirap matulog kasi may iniisip ako para sa HT. Ganun talaga yun! Kasi naman din, among other things, kapag na-plano mo maigi ang HT, you will enjoy it for many years with your family and friends, and it will be the best upgrade (or constraint, when it is badly planned) for your audio system.
By the way, Merry X'mas! :)
Its a great read Mark. Actually with my current HT, I followed what I read when I was planning for the color of my walls, which is neutral gray. I just cant find the link now. Its just not pleasing in the eyes though with the lights on. Or maybe my design skills are so far off. Now with the forwarded link, it reinforces the idea that neutral colors should be the norm. Basta matte. I have actually chosen burgundy too in my planning, but only with trim or accent color. Mali rin pala. I like this part of the article
"Motion imaging industry standards organizations, such as SMPTE, set the rules. Compromises must be weighed against design priorities. If image fidelity is the top priority, room decor must follow imaging science, rather than aesthetic preference. Providing a flat black ceiling in a front projection theater is a good example. Black ceilings are usually not a hot item to interior decorators."
Thats why Alvin's HT is black all over.... :)
Mark, can you pm me where to find the cloth that you mentioned. Its the one thing na wala pa sa supplier list ko. It would be a great help in my planning. Thanks in advance na ah.
Yes, the dreaming part when planning for the HT is so real, hehehe.....ikaw andyan na, kami dreaming pa rin. :) :) Merry Xmas sir!!
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Dec 25, 2007 at 09:11 PM
Dream home theater na talaga yung setup mo!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Dec 26, 2007 at 03:46 AM
di lang HD-dvd & BD player . . . pati denon 2808 kasama na din :o :o 8).
When I visited your HT sabi ko 'a, sa setup ni sir mark hirap na ito i-convince to go HD'. I remember nagtalo pa tayo kung sino ang bad influence sa ating dalawa . . . di naman cguro ako yun at wala pa din ako 1080p pj . . . wala pa pambili :D Anyway, Im glad you already took the plunge kahit konti lang diff. sa DVDO pq at least, match na lahat ang nasa system mo . . . full HD na at last! lalong masarap magbabad dyan sa HT mo ngayon . . .
needless to say . . . talagang merry at happy ang x'mas/new year mo sir, congrats!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 26, 2007 at 07:39 AM
Wow! kakabigla a?
di lang HD-dvd & BD player . . . pati denon 2808 kasama na din :o :o 8).
When I visited your HT sabi ko 'a, sa setup ni sir mark hirap na ito i-convince to go HD'. I remember nagtalo pa tayo kung sino ang bad influence sa ating dalawa . . . di naman cguro ako yun at wala pa din ako 1080p pj . . . wala pa pambili :D Anyway, Im glad you already took the plunge kahit konti lang diff. sa DVDO pq at least, match na lahat ang nasa system mo . . . full HD na at last! lalong masarap magbabad dyan sa HT mo ngayon . . .
needless to say . . . talagang merry at happy ang x'mas/new year mo sir, congrats!
Hi Luther! Ang tagal mo nawala. Pupusta ako na nasa abroad ka kasi mahirap mag-post ng 3 a.m. ;D ;D
I remember clearly ang discussion natin about HD. Don't worry. Bad influence ka talaga pero isa ka lang sa maraming bad influence dito sa Pinoydvd! ;D
Merry X'mas and Happy New Year! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 26, 2007 at 08:03 AM
Its a great read Mark. Actually with my current HT, I followed what I read when I was planning for the color of my walls, which is neutral gray. I just cant find the link now. Its just not pleasing in the eyes though with the lights on. Or maybe my design skills are so far off. Now with the forwarded link, it reinforces the idea that neutral colors should be the norm. Basta matte. I have actually chosen burgundy too in my planning, but only with trim or accent color. Mali rin pala. I like this part of the article
"Motion imaging industry standards organizations, such as SMPTE, set the rules. Compromises must be weighed against design priorities. If image fidelity is the top priority, room decor must follow imaging science, rather than aesthetic preference. Providing a flat black ceiling in a front projection theater is a good example. Black ceilings are usually not a hot item to interior decorators."
Thats why Alvin's HT is black all over.... :)
Mark, can you pm me where to find the cloth that you mentioned. Its the one thing na wala pa sa supplier list ko. It would be a great help in my planning. Thanks in advance na ah.
Yes, the dreaming part when planning for the HT is so real, hehehe.....ikaw andyan na, kami dreaming pa rin. :) :) Merry Xmas sir!!
Marvin, here's another interesting link to pics of an actual all-black HT owned by Gary Murrell, who is one of the very few beta testers used by DVDO. He is very well-respected in AVS Forum. You will notice that he also has a Toshiba HD-A35 and a Panasonic BD-30, as well as a DVDO VP50Pro. He is very happy with the HD and BD players. His all-black HT will not win any award in AVI magazine but I am sure that is not his ambition in life. He is a pure technician. I guess that more normal people like you and I want to make some form of compromise between a bat cave and a really colorful room.
http://www.custom-ht.com/photos/theater/theater.html
A very interesting option is the suggestion in the previous link I posted. It said that you can install gray cloth and then use multi-color LED to change the color of the walls. I think this is what Nemesis does. Also, I really don't think that even your furniture must be all-black. I think that what is critical is the area between your seats and the screen.
Regarding the cloth, the store is in Divisoria. My wife is making a map. Will send that to you.
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 26, 2007 at 01:04 PM
It was a pleasure to listen to your huge HT and thanks for demoing to me the differences of SD & HD. It was such a great revelation to me on whether I shall pursue the format or not.
Iba talaga ma experience HT mo personally , galing!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 27, 2007 at 10:19 AM
It was a pleasure to listen to your huge HT and thanks for demoing to me the differences of SD & HD. It was such a great revelation to me on whether I shall pursue the format or not.
Hi Matz! I suspect that what made you most happy about the demo between SD (video processed) and HD is that it confirmed your suspicion that the difference in pq is not that huge, provided that the SD DVD is of good quality. This is all the more true if your screen is smaller than 65" diagonal.
I would say, however, that for most people, there will be a big difference in pq because they don't use a high-end video processor or deinterlacer/scaler. In that case, the only problem is the cost of the bala. Mahal nga.
With respect to audio, in my humble opinion, the difference is even more subtle so if your equipment (including your room) cannot reproduce those subtle sounds, you won't notice any difference at all.
Tama ba ako? Value for money! :)
In my case, I got a bonus sa trabaho and I had a long X'mas leave so I decided to give myself a X'mas present in the form of the HD upgrade. ;D ;D
Post by: Munskie on Dec 27, 2007 at 10:24 AM
Marvin, here's another interesting link to pics of an actual all-black HT owned by Gary Murrell, who is one of the very few beta testers used by DVDO. He is very well-respected in AVS Forum. You will notice that he also has a Toshiba HD-A35 and a Panasonic BD-30, as well as a DVDO VP50Pro. He is very happy with the HD and BD players. His all-black HT will not win any award in AVI magazine but I am sure that is not his ambition in life. He is a pure technician. I guess that more normal people like you and I want to make some form of compromise between a bat cave and a really colorful room.Thats why having some sort of a compromise between function and design is quite difficult to do. Its a balancing act.
http://www.custom-ht.com/photos/theater/theater.html
A very interesting option is the suggestion in the previous link I posted. It said that you can install gray cloth and then use multi-color LED to change the color of the walls. I think this is what Nemesis does. Also, I really don't think that even your furniture must be all-black. I think that what is critical is the area between your seats and the screen.
Regarding the cloth, the store is in Divisoria. My wife is making a map. Will send that to you.
Regarding the map, cge sir, dont hurry up, diko pa naman kailangan ngayon. Im just searching for all suppliers muna. ;D ;D THanks mark.
Post by: bachwitz on Jan 04, 2008 at 04:51 PM
What do you think will be the effect if you let the HD-DVD or BD passed through your video processor? Would the PQ be downgraded?
TIA
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 04, 2008 at 05:02 PM
pardon my ignorance sir mark.
What do you think will be the effect if you let the HD-DVD or BD passed through your video processor? Would the PQ be downgraded?
TIA
The HD-DVD and BD are actually passing through the video processor (vp) right now. The vp does the following:
1) Many hi-def discs are actually 1080i and then are deinterlaced by the player. The vp reverses the deinterlacing and then does it again. The reason is that the deinterlacing of the vp is superior to that of the player.
2) The vp makes a slight increase in fine detail enhancement and mosquito noise reduction.
3) The vp makes a slight decrease in edge enhancement.
4) The vp acts as a video hub.
Bottom-line is that the HD and BD images are improved by the VP.
Post by: bachwitz on Jan 04, 2008 at 05:41 PM
The HD-DVD and BD are actually passing through the video processor (vp) right now. The vp does the following:
1) Many hi-def discs are actually 1080i and then are deinterlaced by the player. The vp reverses the deinterlacing and then does it again. The reason is that the deinterlacing of the vp is superior to that of the player.
2) The vp makes a slight increase in fine detail enhancement and mosquito noise reduction.
3) The vp makes a slight decrease in edge enhancement.
4) The vp acts as a video hub.
Bottom-line is that the HD and BD images are improved by the VP.
OK my bad. :D
Great gears you really have there sir. Thanks a lot for sharing it with us, not just the equipments but also your hands-on knowledge and experience. I really learn a lot reading your post. Hope I could audition in your place someday. ;D Seeing in person is like a dream come true (literally). :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 04, 2008 at 05:50 PM
OK my bad. :D
Great gears you really have there sir. Thanks a lot for sharing it with us, not just the equipments but also your hands-on knowledge and experience. I really learn a lot reading your post. Hope I could audition in your place someday. ;D Seeing in person is like a dream come true (literally). :D
If you want to come over, okay lang. Weekends. Send me a PM. :)
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 07, 2008 at 10:04 PM
The HD-DVD and BD are actually passing through the video processor (vp) right now. The vp does the following:
1) Many hi-def discs are actually 1080i and then are deinterlaced by the player. The vp reverses the deinterlacing and then does it again. The reason is that the deinterlacing of the vp is superior to that of the player.
2) The vp makes a slight increase in fine detail enhancement and mosquito noise reduction.
3) The vp makes a slight decrease in edge enhancement.
4) The vp acts as a video hub.
Bottom-line is that the HD and BD images are improved by the VP.
Uy? dagdag kaalaman to Sir Mark! ;D
Mabuhay kayo! ;)
Post by: pchin on Jan 08, 2008 at 11:02 PM
Wish I could spend more time checking out your gorgeous HT system. Phew...what a size & setup!
Now I'm really drooling again...Congrat again Mark. :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 09, 2008 at 09:45 AM
Thanks Mark for this afternoon. I really had a great time & a "good eye opener" moment. ;D
Wish I could spend more time checking out your gorgeous HT system. Phew...what a size & setup!
Now I'm really drooling again...Congrat again Mark. :D
It would be nice if you could share with us the "eye opener" stuff. An honest view. :)
I liked the discs you brought. You obviously have both good eyes and ears! We should do it again. Anyhow, we are neighbors.
Your visit was a good preparation for the big trip to Alvin's HT this coming Saturday! Alvin has an awesome set-up. Very hard to beat! Inuman pa. ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Jan 13, 2008 at 07:23 PM
It would be nice if you could share with us the "eye opener" stuff. An honest view. :)
Mark, your HT is the biggest I've seen so far... the sheer size of the room, wow! :o Very comfortable, with the bar just behind us...any time can grab a drink easily....also there's a CR just near by lang...no sweat at all. Parang like an exclusive club house! ;D
The big screen coupled with your quality gears make it much easier to discern the video quality. Your video procesor DVDO 50 Pro is indeed a worthwhile investment. During our demo scenes SD vs HD, I was hard pressed which is which... :D The only setback I guess it's the screen position which is a bit too high due to your center speaker. :) As for your powerful audio setup, it's nice to hear the details even in such a big HT room. :)
In term of video quality, 5-star!! ;) :D If you're very picky then there's room for improvement for the audio. Probably due to the size of the room as the main speakers distance to the listerner's position will require the sound wave to travel quite far (also some sofas/objects in front). Overall, your setup is very good na. Congrat for a nice & comfortable HT....btw welcome aboard to HD DVD & Blu-ray. ;D
Gosh, now I'm salivating & will be indeed having lots of HT dreams... :-X
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We should do it again. Anyhow, we are neighbors.
O nga...regret I needed to rush off for a meeting. Yes, let's do it again when we are free. I'll bring some beer or wine. ;) Would like to make more comparison btw lossy vs lossless in future esp using DTS-HD MA discs. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 14, 2008 at 01:11 PM
The only setback I guess it's the screen position which is a bit too high due to your center speaker. :)
Well, we know the solution for that - another upgrade. :P
If you're very picky then there's room for improvement for the audio. Probably due to the size of the room as the main speakers distance to the listerner's position will require the sound wave to travel quite far (also some sofas/objects in front). ;D
Yes, the room set-up is a constraint but I just have to accept that. It's one of those compromises that we all have to make.
But there are a couple of things I can still do to improve the audio, especially now that I have the SMS-1. Still playing with it but it already seems to provide a big improvement for the mid-bass. I will post more in maybe a week or so, after I have done the tweaks.
Thanks for the observations! :)
Post by: MAtZTER on Jan 14, 2008 at 02:27 PM
Great setup sir Mark!
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 14, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Kinda same observation here w/ Pchin regarding the front, but the spacious room makes the surround effect very discrete & not an "in your face" surround : for an excellent movie-like surround performance!
Great setup sir Mark!
Actually, if I position myself about 7 feet in front of my main listening position, the audio quality has a huge improvement. But then, I destroy the seating arrangement. Furthermore, maduduling ako kasi far-sighted ako. ;D
Kaya I just accept what I have. Thanks din sa comments mo. :)
Post by: pchin on Jan 14, 2008 at 03:34 PM
But there are a couple of things I can still do to improve the audio, especially now that I have the SMS-1. Still playing with it but it already seems to provide a big improvement for the mid-bass. I will post more in maybe a week or so, after I have done the tweaks.
Alright Mark, will be waiting for your feedback after your playing & tweaking with the new gear. ;)
Maybe we can have an EB at your place this time? ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 14, 2008 at 04:17 PM
Alright Mark, will be waiting for your feedback after your playing & tweaking with the new gear. ;)
Maybe we can have an EB at your place this time? ;D
Hehe. Sure! As long as you organize it. ;D
Post by: pchin on Jan 14, 2008 at 07:19 PM
Hehe. Sure! As long as you organize it. ;D
Not a problem...I knew you'd say that. I already have 5 members in my list na...guess we'll need at least 20 people to fit in? LOL :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 14, 2008 at 09:47 PM
Not a problem...I knew you'd say that. I already have 5 members in my list na...guess we'll need at least 20 people to fit in? LOL :D
8 people will be very comfortable. Very sophisticated and technical discussion. :)
14 will be comfortable. A little more noisy and drunk but still quite focused on HT. :)
20 will fit for sure but ... we will need some female members to join and then convert it to a karaoke night. ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Jan 14, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Post by: Munskie on Jan 14, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Okay, count me in if you reach 20. :Dkaraoke night.....count me in.....with the extra features of course... ;D ;D
Post by: danrd on Jan 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
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we will need some female members to join and then convert it to a karaoke night.
Hmmmmm . . . . . . . . . . ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 14, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Okay, count me in if you reach 20. :D
Dami ko naisip na masamang post na sagot pero wag. ;D ;D
Mabait na lang ako .. Of course you can join kahit 20 na. Dala ka lang ng Bacolod lechon de leche. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 14, 2008 at 10:51 PM
karaoke night.....count me in.....with the extra features of course... ;D ;D
Parang may double meaning ang sinasabi nito ... Bad talaga .. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Marl☆1 on Jan 16, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM
Wow, awesome gear bro! Thanks Paul for pointing me to this thread as well. Haven't seen any high-end gear personally so I would consider it a great opportunity to partake in your gathering. Will bring the booze - JW Black labels for the broncos and Bailey's Liqueur for the women ;) ... wait there would be women right? ;D lol
Will you bring your wife? ;D ;D
Actually, bahala si Paul sa invites. :)
Post by: ricky on Jan 16, 2008 at 11:21 AM
Parang may double meaning ang sinasabi nito ... Bad talaga .. ;D ;D ;D
Good boy yang si marv, actually halos lahat ng addicts sa HT naging good boy na kasi instead of girls eh gears na lang kinocollect ::) ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 16, 2008 at 11:48 AM
Good boy yang si marv, actually halos lahat ng addicts sa HT naging good boy na kasi instead of girls eh gears na lang kinocollect ::) ;D
Tama ka dun. Mas mura pa. ;D
Pero ang sinasabi ko rin ay wala naman ako swimming pool. Wala ako Benz o Beemer. Wala ako million-peso dog. Mas maganda talaga HT compared to those other toys.
Post by: pchin on Jan 16, 2008 at 04:21 PM
Will you bring your wife? ;D ;D
All wives/girlfriends are very welcome tama ba? :P
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 16, 2008 at 04:27 PM
All wives/girlfriends are very welcome tama ba? :P
They will get bored. Unless we have a "Desperate Housewives" DVD. ;D
Post by: frootloops on Jan 16, 2008 at 07:15 PM
All wives/girlfriends are very welcome tama ba? :P
This might be a bad idea, our wives/gf might get jealous on streetmart's HT...and later urge us to do the same.
"Honey, I want something like this okay?.." YARI!!!! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 16, 2008 at 07:41 PM
This might be a bad idea, our wives/gf might get jealous on streetmart's HT...and later urge us to do the same.
"Honey, I want something like this okay?.." YARI!!!! ;D
Honestly, I seriously doubt that. I think that most women have no interest in high-end HT rooms. "Boys and their toys." Yun ang naririnig kong honest comment.
Mas importante syempre sa kanila ang bagong banyo, ang kusina ... ;D ;D
Syempre there are exceptions, like the female members here, but they are a small minority.
Post by: Marsman on Jan 16, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Mas importante syempre sa kanila ang bagong banyo, ang kusina ... ;D ;D
100% ka dito ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Marl☆1 on Jan 17, 2008 at 02:01 AM
This might be a bad idea, our wives/gf might get jealous on streetmart's HT...and later urge us to do the same.
"Honey, I want something like this okay?.." YARI!!!! ;D
hehe... on the contrary bro, baka nga mas gumanda pa ang sitwasyon kung ganun.
at least suportado na ni kumander ang SARS ailment natin. ;) No need to conceal our purchases nor distract them with a domestic counter-offer. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 17, 2008 at 06:40 AM
hehe... on the contrary bro, baka nga mas gumanda pa ang sitwasyon kung ganun.
at least suportado na ni kumander ang SARS ailment natin. ;) No need to conceal our purchases nor distract them with a domestic counter-offer. ;D
Parang kabisado na talaga ni Marl ang istrok. Either itago or bilhin sya ng bagong food processor, victorinox kitchen knives, gucci bag ... ;D ;D
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 20, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Honestly, I seriously doubt that. I think that most women have no interest in high-end HT rooms. "Boys and their toys." Yun ang naririnig kong honest comment.
Mas importante syempre sa kanila ang bagong banyo, ang kusina ... ;D ;D
Syempre there are exceptions, like the female members here, but they are a small minority.
Totoo ito ;) my wife don't even visit the HT area. Naalala nya ang mga expensive gears pati yung naka line up kung purchases ;D
Meron bang mini EB sir? Sayang, chance ko na sana makakita ng totoong HT ;D Makakuha ng idea narin para sa bare setup ko :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 20, 2008 at 05:39 PM
Meron bang mini EB sir? Sayang, chance ko na sana makakita ng totoong HT ;D Makakuha ng idea narin para sa bare setup ko :D
Meron nga mini EB. Pero nasa abroad ka, di ba?
Post by: docelmo on Jan 20, 2008 at 07:56 PM
Whoa! may mini-eb pala....unfortunately ma mi miss ko na naman >:(
....On the bright side, luwas ako manila 3rd week ng feb(for a med convention ;D)
.....Sana makita at ma experience ko na dream theater mo!
;D ;D ;D
Post by: trackers888 on Jan 22, 2008 at 09:04 AM
Meron nga mini EB. Pero nasa abroad ka, di ba?
Yes sir, another 3 months this time
Hopefully next time ;D ;D ;D
Goodluck Sir!
Whoa! may mini-eb pala....unfortunately ma mi miss ko na naman >:(
....On the bright side, luwas ako manila 3rd week ng feb(for a med convention ;D)
.....Sana makita at ma experience ko na dream theater mo!
;D ;D ;D
Grab it Doc ;) after convention...
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 22, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Yes sir, another 3 months this time
Hopefully next time ;D ;D ;D
Goodluck Sir!
Good luck too! :)
You must sorely miss your HT while you are abroad. :(
Post by: spenz on Jan 24, 2008 at 09:02 AM
Btw sir, congrats to your HT! Iam confident in saying that this is the best HT in pdvd i've ever seen. Such a formidable combination of form and function. Lovely indeed, more power to you sir. :)
Post by: Munskie on Jan 24, 2008 at 09:06 AM
Hi sir streetsmart may i ask where can i buy Audio Video interior magazines? I've been to several malls such as greenhills,rockwel,megamall and greenbelt already but this particular magazine seemed to have eluded me for many months now. I am on the verge of creating my Home theater myself with the help of a friend and a fellow pinoydvd ourselves Ricky. My HT will be in our province and i seriously need some diagrams and some sort of inspiration to give our carpenter a proper guide on HT installation and i felt that AV interior magazine will be quite a good start to have a picture of my own dream theater.;Dcan I reply? hehehe. audio video interiors is just a feature in home theater magazine now. you can go to their website... www.audiovideointeriors.com (http://www.audiovideointeriors.com). hope this helps. ;D ;D
Btw sir, congrats to your HT! Iam confident in saying that this is the best HT in pdvd i've ever seen. Such a formidable combination of form and function. Lovely indeed, more power to you sir. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 24, 2008 at 07:31 PM
can I reply? hehehe. audio video interiors is just a feature in home theater magazine now. you can go to their website... www.audiovideointeriors.com (http://www.audiovideointeriors.com). hope this helps. ;D ;D
Tama nga si Munskie.
But frankly, you can't really learn much from that magazine. Maganda nga tingnan mga HT dun but in reality, most of them violate a lot of basic HT principles. Many are not properly treated for acoustics, or have the speakers concealed in cabinets which makes it much more difficult to optimize their sound, or the color scheme is too bright and that decreases contrast ratio, etc. Paminsan nagugulat din ako sa choice nila of gears. The magazine is meant more for interior designers rather than AV enthusiasts. You should have both aesthetics and acoustics/video in mind when the HT is planned.
I think it is better if you research in the web. Maybe the best would be audioholics and avsforum. Both sites have detailed explanations on how to build your HT, starting from the dimensions of your room to the type of acoustic treatment, to the wiring, to the chairs, etc.
My own particular advice - if you have space, lagay ka ng banyo at bar. Malaking bagay.
Of course, it is actually quite hard to do all of the research by yourself so you could also try to get a consultant. If you will spend a substantial amount for the HT, I would get a consultant kasi it is so hard to undo a mistake sa HT. You can try Alvinthx2 or Nemesis (Theaterworks) or even AV Driver sa Shang Mall.
Good luck and thanks for your kind remarks about my HT! :) :)
Post by: spenz on Jan 25, 2008 at 08:48 AM
can I reply? hehehe. audio video interiors is just a feature in home theater magazine now. you can go to their website... www.audiovideointeriors.com (http://www.audiovideointeriors.com). hope this helps. ;D ;D
Thanks for the update. :)
Post by: spenz on Jan 25, 2008 at 09:20 AM
Tama nga si Munskie.
But frankly, you can't really learn much from that magazine. Maganda nga tingnan mga HT dun but in reality, most of them violate a lot of basic HT principles. Many are not properly treated for acoustics, or have the speakers concealed in cabinets which makes it much more difficult to optimize their sound, or the color scheme is too bright and that decreases contrast ratio, etc. Paminsan nagugulat din ako sa choice nila of gears. The magazine is meant more for interior designers rather than AV enthusiasts. You should have both aesthetics and acoustics/video in mind when the HT is planned.
I think it is better if you research in the web. Maybe the best would be audioholics and avsforum. Both sites have detailed explanations on how to build your HT, starting from the dimensions of your room to the type of acoustic treatment, to the wiring, to the chairs, etc.
My own particular advice - if you have space, lagay ka ng banyo at bar. Malaking bagay.
Of course, it is actually quite hard to do all of the research by yourself so you could also try to get a consultant. If you will spend a substantial amount for the HT, I would get a consultant kasi it is so hard to undo a mistake sa HT. You can try Alvinthx2 or Nemesis (Theaterworks) or even AV Driver sa Shang Mall.
Good luck and thanks for your kind remarks about my HT! :) :)
Great sites. Thanks sir! May banyo nga ako for my up and coming HT room, i don't know if i'll make a bar though mukhang dina kasya e plus di naman ako palainom.hahaha but if i i'll make a bar i can make one in our attic plus i can still put a billiard table there and since my ht will reside on fourth floor parang annex na din sya ladder lang pagitan. ;D So if they want to watch or listen, sa HT room sila. Kung gusto nila lumaklak and play akyat nalang sila.
Thanks din for the recommendation but ricky and I have already planned to diy my HT room. I know it's a suicide but i have decided to take that gamble already.;D Part of the reason is that i want to get deeply involve in the project, both of us actually. Cguru para matutu nadin plus we have all the time in the world and if it will take 5 years to finish it so be it. ;D
Iam not expecting an award winning CEDIA HT type of interior naman e but just enough to be called a truly decent value for money ht interior that is acoustically treated, i don't know if we can make it but that's the challenge and part of the thrill isn't it? ;D Plus, the experience and thrill with all the hard work is something that i'm really looking forward too.hahaha masochist ata ako!;D ;D
Post by: Munskie on Jan 25, 2008 at 10:00 AM
Great sites. Thanks sir! May banyo nga ako for my up and coming HT room, i don't know if i'll make a bar though mukhang dina kasya e plus di naman ako palainom.hahaha but if i i'll make a bar i can make one in our attic plus i can still put a billiard table there and since my ht will reside on fourth floor parang annex na din sya ladder lang pagitan. ;D So if they want to watch or listen, sa HT room sila. Kung gusto nila lumaklak and play akyat nalang sila.actually the compromise between acoustics (function) and design (aesthetics) is really up to you. To have an HT that looks good and performs well in audio and video department, more often than not are left for professional HT installers to build, and I know, its MAHAL!!! So, goodluck to your DIY (or let the carpenter do it while you supervise?) HT project. I was also planning until my plan was shelved temporarily. Maybe you could share some pointers. Or create a HT contruction thread for you to share your progress. Goodluck again!! :) :)
Thanks din for the recommendation but ricky and I have already planned to diy my HT room. I know it's a suicide but i have decided to take that gamble already.;D Part of the reason is that i want to get deeply involve in the project, both of us actually. Cguru para matutu nadin plus we have all the time in the world and if it will take 5 years to finish it so be it. ;D
Iam not expecting an award winning CEDIA HT type of interior naman e but just enough to be called a truly decent value for money ht interior that is acoustically treated, i don't know if we can make it but that's the challenge and part of the thrill isn't it? ;D Plus, the experience and thrill with all the hard work is something that i'm really looking forward too.hahaha masochist ata ako!;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Jan 25, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Maybe you could share some pointers. Or create a HT contruction thread for you to share your progress. Goodluck again!! :) :)
Yes good idea, create a thread will be nice just like in AVS forum so we can also learn. :)
Post by: spenz on Jan 26, 2008 at 06:32 AM
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Jan 26, 2008 at 04:54 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 27, 2008 at 08:04 AM
Nice HT. Grande. Am less than awed by your speakers though. An HT as grand as yours deserves no less than awesome speakers. Try visiting Acoustic Dimension in Rockwell. They have HT speakers there that are so good they almost made me s**t my pants when I heard 'em. :) I think they are Vienna Acoutics HT speakers. You can buy a small car for their price but judging by your HT, kayang kaya. ;)
That's a pretty surprising comment from someone who hasn't heard my speakers in action. I'm not saying they are the best but the PSB Stratus Goldi speakers, the JBL XPL speakers and the Velodyne subwoofer have all received a lot of great reviews. At their original SRP, the total cost of these speakers is also the same price as a small car.
If I were to upgrade my speakers, I have had my eye either on the PSB Synchrony speakers or the Revel Performa speakers. But as you said, they cost a lot so I won't do that unless I get a huge financial bonanza from somewhere ... kaya nga trabaho muna ... and tweak.
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:27 AM
streetsmart, if you are happy with what you have (which you obviously are), you don't have to change anything. Since this is a forum, I'm just saying: this is what I'll do if I was streetsmart. I can dream can't I? :)
Cheers.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 27, 2008 at 02:58 PM
Am sure your speakers sound great man. But they look kinda old kasi. I know it's how they sound that counts but here's the thing, coming from someone who hasn't heard your system: HT is a relatively new thing and the speakers your have (vintage you say) appear to have been made prior to the dawn of HT. It could be argued that high end speakers designed specifically for HT will sound better as an HT set than high end speakers that weren't designed with HT in mind. I emphasized "HT set" because you are using different makes (JBL and PSB) for fronts and rears. No comments about that killer Velo though but maybe you should get 2 considering the size of the room ;).
streetsmart, if you are happy with what you have (which you obviously are), you don't have to change anything. Since this is a forum, I'm just saying: this is what I'll do if I was streetsmart. I can dream can't I? :)
Cheers.
HT is not new. I had a simple 5.1 speaker HT set-up in 1990, using mainly VHS material and only Dolby Prologic.
The JBL XPL series was an experiment of JBL in the early 1990's to go into high-end speakers. Even if their XPL series received rave reviews, however, they decided to discontinue the line because it was not their niche and it turned out to be not very profitable for them. In other words, these JBL speakers were certainly designed after the dawn of HT.
The PSB Status Goldi speakers are 1999 vintage and were originally the flagship speakers of Paul Barton, a well-respected Canadian speaker manufacturer. These speakers were designed even after DVD's.
Both the JBL XPL series and the PSB Stratus series were designed for both HT and high-end audio.
Are these speakers good for HT? Yes, they are.
Do they sound good in my HT? Yes, they sound awesome.
Does the "mixing" of speakers (JBL/PSB/Velodyne) have a negative effect on the HT sound? Maybe but I honestly don't notice anything.
Are they the best speakers for HT? No, but in order to have a clear improvement, my guess is that I have to spend $12k to $15k and even then, I wouldn't be sure if there would be a clear improvement. Therefore, relax lang muna ako.
Anyway, cheers too.
Post by: pchin on Jan 27, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Am sure your speakers sound great man. But they look kinda old kasi. I know it's how they sound that counts but....
Since this is a forum, I'm just saying: this is what I'll do if I was streetsmart. I can dream can't I?
Bro, geez...you can't simply judge speakers by its look?? You don't even know how much Sreetsmart has invested in his HT gears. :-\ If you know sound quality that really counts...then you should have reserved your comments until you have heard Streetsmart's HT ya? Not simply based on look & room space and then telling others what to do... ::)
Sure you can share your dreamed setup, speakers, etc... but your statement "Am less than awed by your speakers though. An HT as grand as yours deserves no less than awesome speakers. Try visiting Acoustic Dimension in Rockwell. They have HT speakers there that are so good they almost made me s**t my pants when I heard 'em..." sounds to me like you don't think Streetsmart's speakers are good enough thus advising him what to do noh?
Anyway, as Streetsmart has explained "but in order to have a clear improvement, my guess is that I have to spend $12k to $15k and even then, I wouldn't be sure if there would be a clear improvement." ;D
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Jan 27, 2008 at 07:23 PM
Any system, even high end ones can be improved. As with most suggestions, the intent is to help. If that help isn't required, all's fine and dandy. As for you pchin, I suggest you PM me if you have a problem with the way I express myself because I sure have a problem with the way you express yours and I don't want to drag this forum on another pointless exchange.
To streetsmart, congratulations on your setup. It truly is an HT afficionado's dream. Forgive me if I sounded like I was nitpicking on your setup but I was merely expressing my opinion on how it could possibly be improved (a hard task I know). I thought all along that's what forums are for.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 27, 2008 at 11:49 PM
Anyone who posts here, a public forum, should be cool enough to take comments from others. Sreetsmart is cool, I'm cool but I'm not sure you are. If you read my posts carefully, I was not even criticizing streetsmart's setup, quite the opposite in fact. What does less than awed mean to you? To me it means short of drool worthy and that can run the gamut from good to drop dead fabulous. My basis? He uses different brands for his HT speakers. Now I don't want to prattle about tonal matching and s**t but that's a pretty sound basis for being less than awed don't you think?
Any system, even high end ones can be improved. As with most suggestions, the intent is to help. If that help isn't required, all's fine and dandy. As for you pchin, I suggest you PM me if you have a problem with the way I express myself because I sure have a problem with the way you express yours and I don't want to drag this forum on another pointless exchange.
To streetsmart, congratulations on your setup. It truly is an HT afficionado's dream. Forgive me if I sounded like I was nitpicking on your setup but I was merely expressing my opinion on how it could possibly be improved (a hard task I know). I thought all along that's what forums are for.
The theory is always that the best set-up for an HT is 5 (or 7) identical speakers + a subwoofer. Next best is 5 speakers from the same brand and the same line (an HT set).
That's why when I built my HT in 1999, I acquired the JBL XPL-200 for the main speakers, the JBL XPL-160 for the surrounds and the JBL XPL-90 for the center (two speakers to act as the center). When I tested them in my actual room, I had big problems because the 2 center speakers (90 watts x 2) were insufficient and same with the surrounds (160 watts). With some material, the speakers were cracking. Since I had a big PSB speaker, I used that as the main, I combined the XPL-90 with the XPL-160 for the surrounds in a bipole mode and the XPL-200 as the front and the extra speaker for the rear. That set-up was perfect for volume level.
It is true that there is a big difference in timbre between the main speakers and the others, but the alternative was to change all speakers (wala na kasi JBL XPL series) which would be too expensive, so I decided to live with that weakness. But when the Audyssey room correction arrived, they solved the blending of the main speakers with the rest. Right now, I feel the blending is near-perfect.
If you were to ask me what the biggest audio problem was, it was likely the 2 side tables at the front of the HT, which were in the direct path between the main speakers and the sweet spot (aside from the coffee table but that really can't be moved). Today, I moved the 2 side tables and the audio improvement has been tremendous. My basis for saying there has been an improvement is not just my ears but also the RTA of my Velodyne SMS-1, which is a moderately advanced equalizer for subwoofer. Its nothing unique, Mike C has 2 units.
I agree that all systems can be improved and mine can certainly be improved. In fact, if it can't be improved further, I would be extremely sad.
Post by: pchin on Jan 28, 2008 at 12:22 AM
Anyone who posts here, a public forum, should be cool enough to take comments from others. Sreetsmart is cool, I'm cool but I'm not sure you are. As for you pchin, I suggest you PM me if you have a problem with the way I express myself because I sure have a problem with the way you express yours and I don't want to drag this forum on another pointless exchange.
Nah...I'm cool, no problem at all. Hope you don't take my comments personally as I don't meant to be offensive...as you said after all it's a public forum right? Let's move on... :)
By the way Streetsmart, did you manage to take any nice photos on your maiden visit last Sat? :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 28, 2008 at 09:59 AM
By the way Streetsmart, did you manage to take any nice photos on your maiden visit last Sat? :D
I didn't bring my camera and I really don't like cellphone cameras but in any case, the HT of my friend is awesome.
I was initially worried because the HT is located in an attic with a low ceiling with the shape of the roof + it had around 6 windows all around + it is 40 square meters (pretty big). I am sure that this configuration is very difficult to treat acoustically.
He spent a decent amount of money on a consultant and contractor. The consultant came up with innovative ideas, especially with the ceiling, and the result is marvelous. You can tell that the acoustics are good because of the results of the Audyssey room correction. There was very little correction needed for the fronts and center, across all frequencies - that's pretty incredible. Of course, music concerts were awesome as well, especially the bass.
What I found even more incredible was that he was using "only" a Denon 2808 without separate power amps. On the other hand, his speakers are pretty good (JMLab) but not top-of-the-line. I guess that the combination of the good speakers + the terrific acoustic treatment made all the difference.
By the way, he has a Sony VPL-VW60 (Black Pearl) and a 106" Da-Lite screen. No high-def yet. He used a Denon DVD player to provide the deinterlacing and scaling. The result was pretty good but I guess that's where his next upgrade is - either a video processor or hi-def players or both.
In my case, I was in such awe at his acoustic treatment that I did a little movement of my furniture and I think the result is also pretty good. Basically, I relocated the side tables at the front of the HT so they are not in the direct path between the front speakers and the main listening positions. I think my audio is clearer now. :)
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Jan 28, 2008 at 10:39 PM
Nah...I'm cool, no problem at all. Hope you don't take my comments personally as I don't meant to be offensive...as you said after all it's a public forum right? Let's move on... :)
Appreciate this post pchin. Sorry if I came in too strong. Right, let's move on. Maybe streetsmart can give us a tip on what to do in order to afford a dream setup like his? :)
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 02, 2008 at 07:33 PM
Post by: pchin on Feb 02, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Also thanks to all members that attended this EB & contributing all the delicious food. Great food & beer/wine! :D
It's a pleasure meeting you all. It's always nice to see both old & new faces. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:59 AM
Sending my sincere gratitude to Mark for being a wonderful host for this mini EB at his unique theater plus the beer! :D
Also thanks to all members that attended this EB & contributing all the delicious food. Great food & beer/wine! :D
It's a pleasure meeting you all. It's always nice to see both old & new faces. ;)
Thanks for organizing the EB, Paul. As usual, you did a great job. :)
And thanks to all the guys who came over. I think there were 13 in all who came. Masaya! :)
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Feb 03, 2008 at 09:12 AM
thanks for being a great host yesterday! Enjoyed your HT very much! (tulo laway ko...hehehe).
I still need to work my ass-off in order to afford a great HT like yours. :o Financial support at wife support lang ang kailangan. The drive is there naman for me. hehehe ;D
Thanks also for inviting me for dinner. Thanks to Ernie for treating us for dinner and to beers (or should I say 1 beer lang kasi for me...hehehe...di kasi ako malakas uminom).
Will wait for your feedback on the Rel sub! ;D Di ka tatantanan ni Ernie about it if you get to try it out. :D
Congrats again on a great HT! :D
Post by: alvinthx2 on Feb 03, 2008 at 09:56 AM
Napaaga ako nang isang araw. I sure everybody had a great time. Maybe next time. ;D
Alvin
Post by: Munskie on Feb 03, 2008 at 11:07 AM
Post by: gearhead on Feb 03, 2008 at 01:07 PM
congratulations, sir mark on your dream (though not anymore) theater.
Post by: danrd on Feb 03, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Our special guest performer: Carly Simon on a 115 in. stage.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/bigscreen.jpg)
No this aint a hotel bar, it's Sir Mark's "drink-all-you-can" bar ;D ;D
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/collection.jpg)
From left to right:
upper row- et414, moks007, saxman, gearhead, jolibeemcdonald, Mo®pHeOu$, theblue,
lower row - pchin, mb88, streetsmart, dts_es
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/group1.jpg)
the big ravishing guy on red shirt beside sir mark is moi. ;D ;D
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a216/danrd/group2.jpg)
All gears are a definite winner but the greatest part is Sir Mark's hospitality. Thanks a lot and congrats again. ;)
Post by: Saxman on Feb 03, 2008 at 06:29 PM
thanks for inviting me, hope we can do it again! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:24 PM
Great setup sir, Thanks for letting me check out your place today, Great host, great food, great equipments....Thanks again.
It was my pleasure! :)
Mark,
thanks for being a great host yesterday! Enjoyed your HT very much! (tulo laway ko...hehehe).
I still need to work my ass-off in order to afford a great HT like yours. :o Financial support at wife support lang ang kailangan. The drive is there naman for me. hehehe ;D
Congrats again on a great HT! :D
Konting sipag lang, tiyaga at suwerte! Cheers! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:28 PM
Mark,
Napaaga ako nang isang araw. I sure everybody had a great time. Maybe next time. ;D
Alvin
Yes, everyone had a great time! And everyone was all praises for your video calibration. I think that the contrast ratio has improved, seems more 3-dimensional now. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:34 PM
i too would like to extend our (w/ my brother) appreciation for both the great host (streetsmart/mark) and the unofficial "organizer", pchin/paul. both did great in accommodating us in sir mark's fabulous abode with the dedicated home theater. this was my very first pdvd EB and i'm sure glad we came. since sir mark is hinting of a possible next time in the near future, i'll make sure to come in early. there will possibly be a large number of members so we'll have to secure the sweet spots. ;D
congratulations, sir mark on your dream (though not anymore) theater.
Correction: Paul was not the "unofficial" organizer, he was the very "official" organizer and he did a great job. :)
Actually, I'm thinking of organizing a visit to the brand-new HT of my friend in Sta Rosa. 40 square meters and fantastic acoustic treatment. Plus a Sony Black Pearl pj. But I have to convince him! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:42 PM
Would like to thank sir pchin and Streetsmart for yesterday's unforgettable eb. It was indeed an "eye opener" for me. Soundwise and on video as well. ;)
All gears are a definite winner but the greatest part is Sir Mark's hospitality. Thanks a lot and congrats again. ;)
Galing ng pictures mo. And thank you too for coming over! Dapat ulitin. :)
yeah! :D great gears, great host (streetsmart), great food and great company of HT enthusiasts!
thanks for inviting me, hope we do it again! ;D
Lapit pala ng bahay nyo sa amin. Pati si pchin. We should organize a micro-EB among Ermita residents! ;D
Iba talaga to chat with fellow HT enthusiasts. You get really encouraged kasi ang dami rin pala ng mga kagaya natin! ;D
Post by: av_phile1 on Feb 03, 2008 at 07:55 PM
The theory is always that the best set-up for an HT is 5 (or 7) identical speakers + a subwoofer. Next best is 5 speakers from the same brand and the same line (an HT set).
This need not be followed if your speakers have no timbral coloration which is quite common among mass produced speakers. If there is no timber coloration, then there's no need for timber matching. And I see your speakers like the PSB Stratus to be among the more neutral speakers in the past. So if your other speakers are just as neutral, timber mismatch does not exist. This "theory" becomes irrelevant on high end neutral speakers. So enjoy. ;D
Also, see if you can have at least two identical sub-woofers on the center along opposing walls firing in the same direction, but not facing each other. They deliver a much flatter in-room bass response where it matters the most, below 80hz. See my latest posts and my source here: http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=75861.msg778930#msg778930
Post by: et414 on Feb 03, 2008 at 08:47 PM
more power Mark! sa uulitin ;D
Post by: ricky on Feb 03, 2008 at 09:25 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Feb 03, 2008 at 11:47 PM
Tnx idol Mark ;D your new 119" screen rocks! ang laki . . . mas match na sa viewing dist. & size ng HT room mo.
Also wud like to thank Paul for having the time to organize d mini-eb.
:)
Post by: alvinthx2 on Feb 04, 2008 at 10:52 AM
Yes, everyone had a great time! And everyone was all praises for your video calibration. I think that the contrast ratio has improved, seems more 3-dimensional now. :)
Thank you for the compliment, I know I can only marginally improve the calibration done by AVDI. From our initial findings, calibration was top notch, I was not sure I can do better. Its heartwarming knowing that you and the gang appreciate my effort.
Post by: pchin on Feb 04, 2008 at 11:22 AM
Lapit pala ng bahay nyo sa amin. Pati si pchin. We should organize a micro-EB among Ermita residents! ;D
We have quite a few members staying in Manila pala. Saxman (Dennis) is staying just next to my condo (2 min walk). We are neighbours hehe. :) While moks007 (Raymond) is from Sta. Cruz area also very nearby. ;D
Post by: jerix on Feb 04, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Post by: Marl☆1 on Feb 05, 2008 at 12:03 AM
Post by: pchin on Feb 05, 2008 at 08:13 AM
Post by: theblue on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:19 AM
We discussed HT and HIFI topics like I never had before.
I was amazed seeing Streetsmart's setup. Now I know now how High-end Audio and Video looks like!
The whole place was swarming with food and drinks!
I'm looking forward on seeing you guys again! Rest assured that I will bring food na... hehe, I got sir Paul's message about the food pero late na.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:34 AM
Nice meeting & talking to all of you guys! dami ko natutunan.
Tnx idol Mark ;D your new 119" screen rocks! ang laki . . . mas match na sa viewing dist. & size ng HT room mo.
Also wud like to thank Paul for having the time to organize d mini-eb.
:)
Thanks, Luther. You're one of the few people who saw my old screen. Okay ang old screen for 4:3 material but it was too small for 1.78 and 2.35. I think the present one is just right (unless I get a panamorph lens). ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:36 AM
Sirs, thanks for a very informative EB! I really learned a lot. A very nice experience for a newbie like me.
We discussed HT and HIFI topics like I never had before.
I was amazed seeing Streetsmart's setup. Now I know now how High-end Audio and Video looks like!
The whole place was swarming with food and drinks!
I'm looking forward on seeing you guys again! Rest assured that I will bring food na... hehe, I got sir Paul's message about the food pero late na.
An EB is really fun kasi you learn a lot. Tapos eat and drink a lot din! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:38 AM
No worry Jas, there will be always a next time. Johnnie Walker it is! ;)
Looks like we need to do this again in the future. But let me try to see if we can do the Sta Rosa HT first. It's a pretty incredible set-up! :)
Post by: theblue on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:49 AM
Looks like we need to do this again in the future. But let me try to see if we can do the Sta Rosa HT first. It's a pretty incredible set-up! :)
Sta Rosa? ??? What is that sir?
Post by: pchin on Feb 05, 2008 at 09:59 AM
Sta Rosa? ??? What is that sir?
Pls refer to "Reply #236 on: Jan 28, 2008 at 09:59 AM" ;)
Post by: Mo®pHeOu$ on Feb 09, 2008 at 09:33 PM
My thanks to Mark for hosting a great event and to Paul for the invite :) it was also my first EB and its great to be able to talk to other people about HT! wala kasi ako makausap dito about our dear hobby ;D
Pre,
you should have joined the dinner with Mark and Ernie. It was all HT all the time. hehehe. With all the chicks walking outside the restaurant in Ermita, I couldn't beleive that they weren't distracted a bit from the topic. HT pa rin! There are some (actually marami pala) terms that I couldn't understand from what they were saying kasi never encountered them before. Newbie pa rin siguro sa HT. hehehe. Pero si Mark and Ernie was so well versed in HT terminology! I could just listen to them talking and talking and marami kang matututunan from them. :D
Iba talaga ang nagagawa ng ganitong community that shares the same passion for HT. ;)
Will wait for the invite dun sa Sta.Rosa, Laguna. ;D If Mark was so impressed with the accoustic treatments, then it must be really good! It would be a nice place to visit indeed!
Thanks again to Mark and to Paul also. ;)
Mark,
nadeliver na ba ni Ernie yung Rel nya? :D
Post by: et414 on Feb 09, 2008 at 09:37 PM
Mark,
nagawa nyo na CARA ng room mo?
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:03 PM
1. Flat - you can hear distinct bass notes and they will have the same volume
2. Tight – a “thud,” not a “thump”
3. Deep – you can’t actually hear the deepest bass frequencies, which are sometimes harmonics or ambience but you should be able to "feel" them!
4. Volume – should fill up my big room
I wasn’t happy with my bass and I recall that the best bass I had ever heard was from a huge Thiel CS6.2 (I think that’s the model), which had all these characteristics. So I started a long journey to improve my bass.
The first step was the bass management of the AVR and the subwoofer. A lot of this is explained all over the web but let me describe my final settings:
1. Even if all my speakers are physically large and can go really deep, I decided to set them all as “Small” in the AVR. Crossover points were 60 hz for LCR and back, while the SR and SL were set at 80 hz kasi mas slightly smaller sila. This meant that all bass signals below these points were being sent to the sub.
2. The Low-Pass Filter (LPF) at the AVR was set to 120 hz. Even if many manufacturers recommend setting this to 80 hz, it is more accurate to set it at 120 hz. The function of the LPF is to limit the LFE frequencies sent to the sub to only those below the LPF point. LFE frequencies can go all the way up to 120 hz and therefore, you must set the LPF to 120 hz if you don’t want to lose any bass signal. Logically, you must set the LPF of the sub at 120 hz or higher.
3. The subwoofer output was set to “LFE,” not “LFE+Main” (in the Onkyo AVR’s, that is termed “Double Bass”). If you use “LFE+Main,” the sub will reproduce the LFE channel, bass below the crossover point of “Small” speakers AND bass below the crossover point of “Large” speakers. These last bass signals will ALSO be reproduced by the “Large” speakers. Therefore, both the sub and the “Large” speakers will be reproducing the same bass signals and you will get boomy bass.
4. Set the volume of the sub at less than 50%. I am using 25%.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:05 PM
1. There must be absolute silence during calibration.
2. The mic must be set at ear height but if your chair has a high back, it should be set a few inches higher than the back of the chair.
3. If your seat is leather, you should cover it with absorptive material, such as a blanket.
4. Your measurement should be more or less in the shape of an oval, around your main listening position. The measurement points should not be too far from each other.
5. You should use the lightest tripod possible. A heavy tripod may affect the readings.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:06 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/velodyne-sms1-002.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/velodyne-sms1-004.jpg)
This is basically an 8-band parametric equalizer for the subwoofer, but it also has a Real-Time Analyzer (RTA), which is a sine-wave sweep from 15 hz to 200 hz. You can see the db levels of all frequencies between those points, and so you can see the peaks and the dips. In addition, you can adjust the LPF, the subsonic filter, the polarity (infinitely variable), etc. It can be complicated to use but essentially, the steps are as follows:
1. You use the RTA to have the smallest dip, while varying speaker position and polarity.
2. Use the equalizer to flatten the curve, mainly through taming the peaks, while minimizing the boost of dips (because this can introduce distortion).
I took the following screenshot of the SMS-1 RTA from the web. It’s not my actual RTA, but its not that different.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/velodyne-sms1-017-1.jpg)
The next problems was how to integrate the SMS-1 with Audyssey, and after some posts on the Audyssey thread at AVS Forum, I did the following:
1. Run SMS-1 first after which you run Audyssey.
2. Check out the RTA after Audyssey and do some final fine-tuning, if necessary.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:07 PM
I didn’t want to get another Velodyne because of its steep cost, which didn’t seem to be worth it so I did some research and finally chose a Paradigm Servo-15 v2. The reason for this was the following:
1. Both are 15 inchers.
2. Both are sealed subs, as opposed to ported subs, which have a different sound signature.
3. The Velodyne amp is 1250 watts RMS while the Paradigm amp is 1300 watts RMS.
4. Both can go below 20 hz.
5. They are physically alike, in size and weight (both weigh about 100 pounds).
6. I got a good deal for the Paradigm (thanks to Alvin).
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/paradigm-servo-15.jpg)
The next problem was how to integrate the 2 subs. The procedure was more or less as follows:
1. General position. We first tried putting one sub in front and the other at the rear. The problem is that the distances to the main listening position are so different and the sound was pretty bad. We then put both subs in front and the sound was much better.
2. Fine-tuning position. We used the SMS-1 to determine the optimum positions of the 2 subs. Even a few inches can make a big difference.
3. Fine-tune phase. The Paradigm has a continuously variable phase control and using the SMS-1, we determined the optimum setting for the flattest response.
4. Relative volumes. We set the volumes on the subs so that they had equal outputs at the main listening position.
5. We ran SMS-1 and then Audyssey to EQ the subs.
The result is nearly perfect. It is like night and day.
The cannons in “Master and Commander” are incredible. The French and British cannons have different sound signatures.
The bass guitar of Santana’s “Jingo” is incredibly loud and it is accompanied by maybe 10 different types of drums. You can hear each instrument distinctly.
There is a sequence in Cream’s “Stormy Monday” when the bass guitarist plays a scale of bass notes from lowest to highest. Each note is distinct and has the same volume.
The lighting strikes in “War of the Worlds” produces a huge deep rumble which is clear and undistorted.
I can now “feel” the bass.
I am pretty happy now. Fine-tuning na lang muna. Till the next SARS outbreak. ;D ;D
Post by: threadlock on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:51 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 12:57 PM
bro, where did you buy the Velodyne SMS-1? Is it available locally?
Not available locally. Got it through Amazon and then JAC.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 17, 2008 at 01:43 PM
will also try your settings sa 12r ko baka may improvement din, ngayon kasi naka 'LFE+Main' ako.
Thanks sa guide. :)
Post by: Munskie on Mar 17, 2008 at 02:13 PM
The sms-1 is really essential in fine-tuning and subwoofer management. Congrats on this acquisition, pati na rin sa Paradigm mo. The last series of posts you made are really helpful to me, and for other members...lalu na sa sub management. Thanks and congrats sir!! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Congrats on your new sub sir mark. whew! another 15 incher . . .
will also try your settings sa 12r ko baka may improvement din, ngayon kasi naka 'LFE+Main' ako.
Thanks sa guide. :)
When you look at the subs of Mike C, parang sobrang liit ang subs ko. ;D
Try mo nga ung "LFE" lang. Nakakalito kasi ang manual. Very hard to understand but once you understand, then you realize that normally, dapat talaga "LFE" lang. Nonetheless, subukan mo lang.
Mark,
The sms-1 is really essential in fine-tuning and subwoofer management. Congrats on this acquisition, pati na rin sa Paradigm mo. The last series of posts you made are really helpful to me, and for other members...lalu na sa sub management. Thanks and congrats sir!! :)
The whole idea is to help. Ang hirap to research by yourself. :)
Post by: Munskie on Mar 17, 2008 at 03:59 PM
I have tried the LFE+Main option, it was not good for my taste. Halo halo ang labas ng bass. Im using the LFE only option... ;)
Try mo nga ung "LFE" lang. Nakakalito kasi ang manual. Very hard to understand but once you understand, then you realize that normally, dapat talaga "LFE" lang. Nonetheless, subukan mo lang.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 17, 2008 at 04:03 PM
When you look at the subs of Mike C, parang sobrang liit ang subs ko. ;D
Try mo nga ung "LFE" lang. Nakakalito kasi ang manual. Very hard to understand but once you understand, then you realize that normally, dapat talaga "LFE" lang. Nonetheless, subukan mo lang.
It depends pa din siguro sa room size. In your case, it looks like you're happy na w/ your 2 - 15" just like I do sa 1 - 12" 15sqm. lang naman kasi ht room ko. :)
Ok, will try this week. Actually, I already tried setting it w/ 'LFE only' nanghinayang lang ako sa sub ng FS ko hehe . . . kaya binalik ko uli sa L/R+LFE. But this time I'll try it w/ your x'over & sub volume settings.
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The whole idea is to help. Ang hirap to research by yourself. :)
sinabi mo sir! and its time consuming . . . buti na lang madami mabait d2 sa pdvd. ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 17, 2008 at 04:07 PM
I have tried the LFE+Main option, it was not good for my taste. Halo halo ang labas ng bass. Im using the LFE only option... ;)
hmm, mag-iiba na siguro talaga ako ng setting ng sub :D . . . 'LFE only' here I come.
Post by: ricky on Mar 17, 2008 at 04:24 PM
I have tried the LFE+Main option, it was not good for my taste. Halo halo ang labas ng bass. Im using the LFE only option... ;)
Me too, and xover at 100hz for me is the best :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 04:46 PM
It depends pa din siguro sa room size. In your case, it looks like you're happy na w/ your 2 - 15" just like I do sa 1 - 12" 15sqm. lang naman kasi ht room ko. :)
Ok, will try this week. Actually, I already tried setting it w/ 'LFE only' nanghinayang lang ako sa sub ng FS ko hehe . . . kaya binalik ko uli sa L/R+LFE. But this time I'll try it w/ your x'over & sub volume settings.
Kung gusto mo, para di naman sayang ang sub ng FS mo, gawin mo siya "Small" pero babaan mo ang crossover. Try it at 60 hz or even 40 hz. But definitely, the dedicated sub should handle anything below 40 hz. Ang FS ko nga is rated down to 35 hz pero set ko crossover at 60 hz. For a 15 sq meter room, kayang kaya ng 12" sub.
By the way, ano FS mo? May built-in sub talaga?
Post by: mike c on Mar 17, 2008 at 05:09 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2008 at 05:23 PM
good decision on the servo15. bagay nga yan sa HGS15 mo. ;)
Thanks, Mike. Actually, you were the one that made me seriously think about getting a sub which is very similar to the HGS-15. :)
Parang kapatid nga sila but they sound different din of course. Based on maybe 2 hours listening to the Paradigm alone, it seems a bit rough and less accurate in the 40 to 50 hz region. On the other hand, it can go deeper and have higher volumes than the Velo. But when you put the 2 together, they sound really great.
Post by: dieselsy on Mar 17, 2008 at 06:06 PM
hope il hv the chance to listen and join the next session...
Post by: charlie 669 on Mar 18, 2008 at 12:57 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2008 at 07:30 AM
nice set up and ht! ang laki ... how much ba membership dyan hehe?
hope il hv the chance to listen and join the next session...
Thanks! :)
Next session is Munskie! Lechon! ;D
Pagkatapos ay ang HT ng friend ko sa Sta Rosa. Sony VPL-VW60, JMLab speakers and fantastic acoustic treatment. :)
After that is ang dambuhalang speakers ... ikaw! ;D
And then ang may bagong pj at audio calibration set-up ... si Alvin! ;D
Pagkatapos lang nun ay ang HT ko. ;D
Ganda set up. . . ingit nanaman ako. :D
Thanks! :)
Post by: Munskie on Mar 18, 2008 at 07:35 AM
Lets do it this April. After ng calibration ni Alvin. I know medyo discriminating tayong mga members kaya dapat the gears should perform at their best.... ;D ;D
Next session is Munskie! Lechon! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2008 at 07:39 AM
Lets do it this April. After ng calibration ni Alvin. I know medyo discriminating tayong mga members kaya dapat the gears should perform at their best.... ;D ;D
Yup. Good idea. Set ka na ng date! :)
Post by: ricky on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Lets do it this April. After ng calibration ni Alvin. I know medyo discriminating tayong mga members kaya dapat the gears should perform at their best.... ;D ;D
Pare kahit hindi well calibrated kasi yung LECHON BAKA naman ang Irereview namin ;D joke
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:18 AM
Pare kahit hindi well calibrated kasi yung LECHON BAKA naman ang Irereview namin ;D joke
OT ka!! ;D ;D
Post by: ricky on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:22 AM
OT ka!! ;D ;D
Hindi ah, dito talaga yun topic na yun ;D joke lang Sir yung baka, kahit liempo pwede na, magkita-kita lang tayo ;) ;D
Post by: MAtZTER on Mar 18, 2008 at 10:52 AM
LECHON BAKA!!! :D ;D
Post by: ricky on Mar 18, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2008 at 11:52 AM
Chicharon na lang. ;)
Post by: Munskie on Mar 18, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2008 at 12:56 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 18, 2008 at 03:16 PM
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Kung gusto mo, para di naman sayang ang sub ng FS mo, gawin mo siya "Small" pero babaan mo ang crossover. Try it at 60 hz or even 40 hz. But definitely, the dedicated sub should handle anything below 40 hz. Ang FS ko nga is rated down to 35 hz pero set ko crossover at 60 hz. For a 15 sq meter room, kayang kaya ng 12" sub.
By the way, ano FS mo? May built-in sub talaga?
Yep, nabawasan nga pagka-boomy at nag-extend pa yung highs. Ok, laruin ko uli mamya x'over sir mark. Thanks!
I mean, 2 - 6.5" woofers yung sa Infinity Primus360 ko entry-level lang but I just set it to large pag nagtitipid sa kuryente para dna gumamit ng sub sa 2-channel pag gusto ko makining ng music. :)
lechon baka! ehe . . . chicharon! chicharon! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2008 at 03:27 PM
Yep, nabawasan nga pagka-boomy at nag-extend pa yung highs. Ok, laruin ko uli mamya x'over sir mark. Thanks!
I mean, 2 - 6.5" woofers yung sa Infinity Primus360 ko entry-level lang but I just set it to large pag nagtitipid sa kuryente para dna gumamit ng sub sa 2-channel pag gusto ko makining ng music. :)
lechon baka! ehe . . . chicharon! chicharon! ;D
Kung 6.5" lang ang woofers, palagay ko better to set xover at 80 hz, maybe even 100 hz.
Hoy, wag ka gumaya kay Matzter at ricky na naganganchaw! Bad influence ang mga yun! ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 18, 2008 at 06:53 PM
ay hehe . . . kaya nga chicharon na lang sir eh . . . lam mo naman idol kita :D ;D
Post by: ricky on Mar 18, 2008 at 08:27 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Post by: gearhead on Mar 19, 2008 at 02:07 PM
my contrib, para di OT. in general, mas better to set the AVR to LFE only. it was what the sound designer intended it to be. but since different materials were mixed differently, you could also try the LFE+main option kung di talaga lumalabas ang lows. with both, mas preferable if the L/R speakers are at least 6.5".
now if the fronts have small diameter drivers, you can set the fronts to "Small" and adjust crossover accordingly. 80/90hz is a good compromise x'over for movies. 100/120hz is good for concerts naman. for larger drivers, you can try 60hz for fronts.
daming choices, ano? kaya kung minsan ok na din yung fixed x'over lang like 90hz for yamaha and 80/100hz for marantz. pero siyempre, if you want the most from your system, the more flexible the better, with one CAVEAT: "know what you're doing". otherwise, you'll end up worse than those with simple boxes.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 06, 2008 at 07:42 PM
Yesterday, I visited the HT of my friend in Sta. Rosa with some Pinoydvd members. We also met up with the technicians of AV Driver, who installed a video processor and a PS3.
From left to right: Bert (the acoustic treatment contractor of AV Driver), Perry (my friend, owner of the HT), Carlo (@the blue), me, Rey (@wallyraider), John (the chief tech of AV Driver, ISF and THX-certified) and Alvin (@alvinthx2). Sarap ng wine ni Perry.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perrygroup.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 06, 2008 at 07:43 PM
Projector: Sony VPL-VW60
Screen: 106” Da-Lite matte white
Speakers: 7.1 system of JMLab
AVR: Denon 2808
Video Processor: DVDO IScan VP50Pro
BD Player: PS3
SD Player: Denon 2910
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryscreen.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/PerryJMLmain.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/PerryVP50Pro.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 06, 2008 at 07:44 PM
Absorbers on front and side walls. Diffusers on rear. Absorbers on apex of ceiling. Diffusers on rest of ceiling. Fiberglass also installed on kisame so as to reduce noise from rain. Plus black-out shades for windows.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryrear.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryentry.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perrywindows.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 06, 2008 at 07:44 PM
We watched some SD material and then re-installed Audyssey – BIG improvement in audio clarity and seamlessness of surround. The problem was the pq – lots of pixelation and jaggies. Even contrast ratio wasn’t great.
After the VP50Pro and PS3 were installed, there was a HUGE improvement in pq, including for SD material. In fact, people sometimes thought that the SD pic was BD. SD was that good. PQ still needs some tweaking and the AV Driver guys will return to do that but even without the final calibration, pq was excellent!
I thought that the AV Driver guys did an excellent job because the room is very challenging. Its an attic so the ceiling is a sloped roof. Also, there are a lot of windows. As you can see, they did a lot of innovative treatment and the acoustics, to me, were perfect. As I would describe it, nawawala ang mga speakers. Seamless surround. Malinis.
The group felt that the weak link was probably the amplifier. Sobra ganda ng tunog but at high levels, medyo matining. In fact, we couldn’t listen at reference levels. Masakit na sa tenga. Parang nahihirapan na ang Denon 2808. Also, maliit ang subwoofer – 10” driver lang. The sub can’t reproduce subsonic signals so you don’t feel the sofa shaking. Nawawala ang ambience na binibigay ng subsonics. Di rin siguro kaya ng sub ang required SPL level. E di next upgrades!
We all had a great time, especially with the hospitality of Perry and the presence of Alvin and John, 2 of the greatest AV technicians in the country. Pinakain at pinainom pa kami ni Perry. It was a great day and we all learned a lot!
Post by: Munskie on Apr 06, 2008 at 09:32 PM
Rather than creating a new thread, I thought it would be simpler to post these pictures here. Hope the mods are ok with thisang gagwapo ah!! Nice to know that there are solutions to any problems created by irregular room dimensions, although iba pa rin talaga ideal room dimensions. Alvin asked me when he visited me last Friday, if nag improve and audio quality ng system ko (same speakers and equipments), I said " a lot!!" We were one i saying that the improvements can be traced to the treatments and to the room.
Yesterday, I visited the HT of my friend in Sta. Rosa with some Pinoydvd members. We also met up with the technicians of AV Driver, who installed a video processor and a PS3.
From left to right: Bert (the acoustic treatment contractor of AV Driver), Perry (my friend, owner of the HT), Carlo (@the blue), me, Rey (@wallyraider), John (the chief tech of AV Driver, ISF and THX-certified) and Alvin (@alvinthx2). Sarap ng wine ni Perry.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perrygroup.jpg)
But based on your review of your friend Perry's HT, there are solutions indeed to irregular room dimensions. But it takes a lot of treatment to do it. Thats where acoustic technicians come in very handy.
Very active sa mga EB ah, sir Mark. You know where's next, nag-usap na tayo, hehehe, ikaw na bahala. Just dont expect much, hehehe. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 07, 2008 at 07:35 AM
Maganda rin ang performance ng pj and the JM Lab speakers. The DVDO performed well but of course, we knew that before hand.
Sige, the next EB will be a mini-grand one in the city of Angels. ;D ;D
Post by: theblue on Apr 11, 2008 at 11:40 AM
The DVDO was proven to be of very great help to improve the picture and video quality. Even DVD movies are starting to par with blu-ray. Of course the best parin ang blu-ray and DVDO.
Till next time sir! and Thanks.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 02, 2008 at 02:07 PM
Tried to replicate the LFE I heard fr. the dancing Mei scene in HOFD di ko makuha. I can feel the bass have no problem w/ that but when the bean flies fr. F-R to L-S channel meron gap yung reverberation na nakukuha ko di kagaya sa Servo-15 mo na continuous . . . galing! Sa Master & Commander naman dun sa scene na we heard footsteps sa upper deck during the sea battle I can hear & feel it problem is its not high enough. Its like mines coming fr. 6ft above listening position and yours twice as high. Maybe its bec. of the high ceiling, SMS-1 & Servo-15 combined that we get a distinct localization when viewed in your HT. Very good. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on May 02, 2008 at 09:36 PM
Hi sir mark,
Tried to replicate the LFE I heard fr. the dancing Mei scene in HOFD di ko makuha. I can feel the bass have no problem w/ that but when the bean flies fr. F-R to L-S channel meron gap yung reverberation na nakukuha ko di kagaya sa Servo-15 mo na continuous . . . galing! Sa Master & Commander naman dun sa scene na we heard footsteps sa upper deck during the sea battle I can hear & feel it problem is its not high enough. Its like mines coming fr. 6ft above listening position and yours twice as high. Maybe its bec. of the high ceiling, SMS-1 & Servo-15 combined that we get a distinct localization when viewed in your HT. Very good. ;)
Luther,
Sa House of Flying Daggers, magaling talaga ang Paradigm Servo-15. But for music, mas maganda ang Velo HGS-15. Ngayon na naayos na ang Velo, mas maganda pa ang kombinasyon nila. Pero gusto ko talaga gayahin ang ginawa ni Munskie - DIY bass traps. Kapag nagawa ko na yun at may improvement, pwede tayo makinig uli. ;D
I suspect that the main reason is the size of the HT. Ang experience mo is what I felt din sa HT ni Munskie and my friend sa Sta Rosa - parang mababa ang upper deck sa Master & Commander. With a bigger HT, natural na nagiging mas malawak ang soundstage. Pero marami rin ang problema ng big HT, among them the need for big subs and a big electricity bill.
Post by: Dingdong Amandy on May 03, 2008 at 01:26 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 03, 2008 at 02:24 PM
uy! gawa na Velo-15 cge sir sked na lang uli pag gawa na bass traps.
Post by: kefq on May 11, 2008 at 10:11 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 11, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Mark thank you for yesterdays' session. It was a whole new experience for me especially the Audyssey, huge improvement. :)
Any time, Dex! Neighbors naman tayo. Next time, as you suggested, dalawin ko naman place nyo. :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 11, 2008 at 04:34 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 11, 2008 at 06:30 PM
you must be in heaven sir streetsmart! awesome!
Trouble is that there is always something you can do to improve your system. Like many guys here, I always have a few small projects cooking! :)
Post by: flak-jacket on May 11, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 12, 2008 at 07:05 AM
kefq! bakit hindi mo ko niyaya? pumunta ka pala sa home ni sir streetsmart! :( ;D
Hehe. Neighbor ka rin ba? Sabihin mo na lang kay Dex invite ka next time. No problem. :)
Post by: flak-jacket on May 12, 2008 at 07:14 AM
Hehe. Neighbor ka rin ba? Sabihin mo na lang kay Dex invite ka next time. No problem. :)
hehe no sir. medyo malayo ang place ko, pero nakapunta na din si kefq dun. ;D :D
thanks :)
Post by: Munskie on May 12, 2008 at 08:10 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 12, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Cant wait to see your DIY bass trap Mark.... ;)
Hehe. Nanganganak, e. Dumadami sila. Kausapin ko muna si Alvin bago ko finalize. I have most of the materials na.
Post by: wickedmonicker on May 15, 2008 at 09:24 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 16, 2008 at 09:35 AM
WOW... you're one of the best "story tellers" ive ever read online! your HT Room is fantastic I love it! You should have a blog man.. i'd read it hehehe
Thanks. Did I mention that when I was in grade school, I won a story-telling contest? You are given the title of a story and in 5 minutes, you need to invent the story and narrate it, complete with action. ;D
I guess that a big part of the fun in this hobby is the story of how you slowly try to improve your HT. And it is equally fun to articulate that story and share it with like-minded HT freaks. :)
Post by: iiinas on May 16, 2008 at 11:31 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 18, 2008 at 01:57 PM
your set-up is great sir streetsmart! pati yung sa friend mo, galing! drool inducer... ;D ;D
Thanks. This hobby is a good incentive to work hard and earn more money! Of course, when you are able to tweak without spending too much money, that is the best of all. :)
Post by: streetsmart on May 19, 2008 at 07:46 AM
My LCR speakers are very big and can go below 40 hz. Nevertheless, on my Denon AVR, I set them as "Small." For Onkyo, that would mean not "Full Band." There are many reasons for doing this, among them:
1. Subwoofers can normally go much lower than even big floorstanders. In my case, I have 2 subs which can go below 20 hz.
2. The bass frequencies put a lot of stress on the amps for your LCR speakers. Transferring this load to the sub(s) will give more headroom to the LCR amps and minimize clipping.
In addition to these, it turns out that in the case of AVR's which have Audyssey room correction, there is another important reason. Audyssey applies 8x more filters for the sub, as compared to the other speakers! Applying this even further, I raised the crossover of my LCR and surround speakers from 60 hz to 80 hz. This means that the subs and Audyssey would now be handling the 60 to 80 hz region. I watched a familiar concert with the new setting and the bass was more accurate and distinct. To my ears, it is a big difference.
There is a limit to this. If you raise the crossover to 100 hz and above, those are frequencies which are "localizable." You will detect them as coming from the sub. Therefore, the practical limit seems to be 80 hz, which will cover roughly the lower half of bass guitars and the lowest octaves of the tuba, trombone and bass vocals. Even the frequencies of kettle drums are barely touched at 80 hz. When you think of it, there doesn't seem to be a lot of information at 80 hz and below but in fact, that information is vital for both music and movies.
Post by: Munskie on May 19, 2008 at 07:53 AM
I thought it would be interesting to share a small tweak.Good point. THX standard is also set at 80hz.
My LCR speakers are very big and can go below 40 hz. Nevertheless, on my Denon AVR, I set them as "Small." For Onkyo, that would mean not "Full Band." There are many reasons for doing this, among them:
1. Subwoofers can normally go much lower than even big floorstanders. In my case, I have 2 subs which can go below 20 hz.
2. The bass frequencies put a lot of stress on the amps for your LCR speakers. Transferring this load to the sub(s) will give more headroom to the LCR amps and minimize clipping.
In addition to these, it turns out that in the case of AVR's which have Audyssey room correction, there is another important reason. Audyssey applies 8x more filters for the sub, as compared to the other speakers! Applying this even further, I raised the crossover of my LCR and surround speakers from 60 hz to 80 hz. This means that the subs and Audyssey would now be handling the 60 to 80 hz region. I watched a familiar concert with the new setting and the bass was more accurate and distinct. To my ears, it is a big difference.
There is a limit to this. If you raise the crossover to 100 hz and above, those are frequencies which are "localizable." You will detect them as coming from the sub. Therefore, the practical limit seems to be 80 hz, which will cover roughly the lower half of bass guitars and the lowest octaves of the tuba, trombone and bass vocals. Even the frequencies of kettle drums are barely touched at 80 hz. When you think of it, there doesn't seem to be a lot of information at 80 hz and below but in fact, that information is vital for both music and movies.
Post by: streetsmart on May 19, 2008 at 09:50 AM
Good point. THX standard is also set at 80hz.
Yes. 80 hz was not an arbitrary number.
Post by: sanmig_ph on May 26, 2008 at 05:23 PM
thanks sir :)
Post by: streetsmart on May 26, 2008 at 05:37 PM
sir streetmart ask po ako opinion regarding denon3808, sa speaker match up nya ok lang kaya i match sa bright na speaker?
thanks sir :)
Denon ko is 2808, though the amp should have the same characteristic as the 3808. Furthermore, I don't use its power amp kasi may separate power amp ako.
Nonetheless, narinig ko na sya with the HT of a friend. Actually, medyo bright sya but honestly, I don't know if that was because of the amp or (more probably), the speaker! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 07, 2008 at 02:48 PM
You can see the 8 foot panels on the 2 front corners.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3087/2557171447_584b7123e9.jpg)
The 4 foot panels were placed at the rear corners. Here's a shot of one of them.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3009/2557171143_3ba412e972.jpg)
Of course, after installing these, I had to redo the Audyssey calibration and what you can notice is that the correction curve is flatter than before.
I was really amazed at the difference in sound quality. My bass was already tight but now, it is even tighter. You can notice this most with the kick drum.
These panels are supposed to absorb excess sound energy so you would expect the bass to decrease. Yet, the impression you get is that the bass has increased.
What surprised me the most was that it improved the sound of nearly all instruments, making them more detailed and life-like. I was particularly impressed by the improvement in the piano. Parang live.
This is one of the best investments I ever made sa HT. Parang nag-upgrade ng speakers. Salamat talaga ako kay Alvin, Munskie, Mike_C, Threadlock and all the other guys who gave advice.
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 07, 2008 at 02:51 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3028/2557993984_f0950ed3dd.jpg)
Actually, kinopya ko lang ang HT ni Munskie. ;D Tagal din ang research namin ni Munskie and I realized that mali talaga to have red walls (kahit burgundy sya) close to the screen.
My immediate perception is that there is an improvement in contrast ratio.
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 07, 2008 at 02:54 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3064/2557171293_9ebbb9ecb7.jpg)
Nilagay ko ang kapares sa rear. Obviously, the result is that there is better blending of the front and center speakers.
Post by: Munskie on Jun 07, 2008 at 03:20 PM
Im pretty sure this is the most efficient upgrade you ever had.
Low on cost, but huge improvement overall, sa video and audio.
The black front wall improves the perception of contrast. Removes any distraction, and parang nagfo float yung screen. This is a must for every serious HT enthusiast.
Sa bass traps naman, it makes LFE tighter, and smoother. Reduced boominess.
Congrats!! ;D ;D
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jun 07, 2008 at 05:25 PM
Magkano lang ang gastos, pero parang entirely new system di ba?
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 07, 2008 at 05:30 PM
Congrats mark for the updates.
Im pretty sure this is the most efficient upgrade you ever had.
Low on cost, but huge improvement overall, sa video and audio.
The black front wall improves the perception of contrast. Removes any distraction, and parang nagfo float yung screen. This is a must for every serious HT enthusiast.
Sa bass traps naman, it makes LFE tighter, and smoother. Reduced boominess.
Congrats!! ;D ;D
Hehe. Good point. Ang taas ng ROI. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 07, 2008 at 05:33 PM
Way to go Mark. :D
Magkano lang ang gastos, pero parang entirely new system di ba?
Exactly. I was really shocked at the amount of improvement. Now, I guess I can add more panels at the junction between ceiling and wall. Tama?
After that, pag-usapan nating ano next project ko. ;D
Thanks sa lahat ng tulong. :)
Post by: Munskie on Jun 08, 2008 at 07:00 PM
Exactly. I was really shocked at the amount of improvement. Now, I guess I can add more panels at the junction between ceiling and wall. Tama?
This is also what im planning to do. Im just thinking on how it would fit in my rather mediocre aesthetic taste. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 08, 2008 at 07:17 PM
This is also what im planning to do. Im just thinking on how it would fit in my rather mediocre aesthetic taste. ;)
Aesthetics nga ang problem. People get kinda surprised when they notice those big black boxes sa mga kanto. Akala nila may secret electronics sa loob. ;D
But anyhow, I don't think its that ugly naman. And the important thing is the great audio improvement. :)
Post by: blackd70s on Jun 09, 2008 at 05:35 PM
sir!
panood naman! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 07:04 AM
sir!
panood naman! ;D
Sure. Volunteer ka lang sa shoot-out for the Oppo 983. Dala ka rin red wine. :)
Post by: dieselsy on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:07 PM
thank you ;D
Post by: mike c on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:17 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:22 PM
congrats! ang bilis mo gumawa a, parang kailan ka lang nagre-research ;D
Thanks. Kinopya ko nga ung photo na pinadala mo sa akin. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 01:22 PM
BOSS great upgrade...baka pede pasabay naman ng panel.... ::)
thank you ;D
Sure. Wait lang tayo for the Oppo 983 of Paul to arrive. :)
Post by: JAQY888 on Jun 10, 2008 at 02:40 PM
Mukhang may susunod pa kayong project a. heheheh. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 03:32 PM
Bro Mark, Congratz sa bagong upgrades... ;D
Mukhang may susunod pa kayong project a. heheheh. ;)
Ika nga ng isang member dito .. "Mission Accomplished." After a few days, bumili ng bagong equipment, kaya nga ang mas bagay sabihin ay ... "Mission Impossible." ;D
Dagdag pa ako few more bass traps. :)
Tapos, nasira isang sub ko kaya iniisip ko palitan. :'(
Tapos .. ang pangarap ko is a big 133" DIY "High Power" projector screen. Nakuha ko idea kay jay2 - bibilhin langa ang tela, baka mura lang. Will make adjustments sa pj ko para ok pa rin ang liwanag. Kung d ok ang liwanag, itatabi ko sya till I find a new pj. ;D ;D Dream lang. :)
Post by: macdon on Jun 10, 2008 at 04:03 PM
Pa blow up naman ng pics nyo at ididikit ko nalang sa pader ng HT ko ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 10, 2008 at 05:05 PM
Chief - ang bangis naman sir!
Pa blow up naman ng pics nyo at ididikit ko nalang sa pader ng HT ko ;D
Wag naman bangis! Bango na lang! ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 10, 2008 at 06:52 PM
Quote from: streetsmart
Ika nga ng isang member dito .. "Mission Accomplished." After a few days, bumili ng bagong equipment, kaya nga ang mas bagay sabihin ay ... "Mission Impossible." ;D
parang kilala ko to ah! pa PM naman niyang upgrades na yan sir streetsmart!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jun 17, 2008 at 01:20 PM
133" :o . . . mas bagay yata sa size ng HT rm. mo ;)
Congrats sa bass traps, na-install na din pala.
:)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 17, 2008 at 02:25 PM
wow new look na pala sir mark! black na din front-side walls mo . . . ibang klase talaga, laging may improvement.
133" :o . . . mas bagay yata sa size ng HT rm. mo ;)
Congrats sa bass traps, na-install na din pala.
:)
Thanks, Luther.
Sarap mangopya ng idea ni Munskie sa black side-walls. ;D
Post by: Munskie on Jun 17, 2008 at 02:29 PM
Thanks, Luther.
Sarap mangopya ng idea ni Munskie sa black side-walls. ;D
Nauna kapa sa akin Mark......diko pa napinturahan yung sa akin (coz im thinking of drapes) ;D ;D ;D
Post by: bono vox on Jun 18, 2008 at 10:55 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 18, 2008 at 12:11 PM
congrats to your set up sir! very nice dedicated ht setup :D :o :o :o... wish ko lang :'( ::)
Thanks! Its still a work in progress. ;D
Also need to post another significant upgrade. Maybe this weekend. :)
Post by: dieselsy on Jun 21, 2008 at 11:28 AM
Post by: iiinas on Jun 25, 2008 at 11:26 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM
Ever since I got the Paradigm Servo-15 v2 subwoofer (actually 2 of them), I started to hear serious rattling whenever there was heavy LFE material and it can get very annoying. At first, I thought that this was caused by the pin lights but to make sure, I did an experiment by playing only the subwoofer. Initially, I thought that the Celine Dion last track was the best material but it turned out to be weak. The best material was the battle scene in Master & Commander. Another very good one was the claymore mine explosion in Rambo - First Blood.
When you listen only to the subwoofer, it is much easier to detect where the rattling occurs. I also got 2 other guys to help me out. It turned out that the big rattling was caused by the door to the CR (which doesn't close tight) and the exhaust fan inside the CR. Another big rattle was caused by the ballast of my halogen lights which were mounted on a hanger. Parang may loose screw inside it. What a surprise! Of course, tuwang-tuwa ako. Much easier to fix than changing all the pin lights. :) :)
Post by: frootloops on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:37 PM
A fellow member was at my house for a dinner get together last Sunday, and based from his first hand experience with your audio system (of course aside from the Sony Pj)...and the very good room dimension (kasya daw poste ng Meralco sa taas ng ceiling mo) , it was one of the best AQ he had ever heard. Forget about the old model of speakers you have....it is the result that counts. ;)
Haayy...kelan kaya ako makakarating dyan.... ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 22, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Haayy...kelan kaya ako makakarating dyan.... ;D
Christmas party EB. ;D Nagpaplano kami ni pchin. ;D
As long as you come in proper costume. Darth Vader? Terminator? Shrek? ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Jul 22, 2008 at 04:04 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 22, 2008 at 04:07 PM
R2D2 sana. Nyahaha! ;D Sige sir, I hope it pushes through. Sagot ko ano.............Bluray compilation ng HOT pics since the start. :o ;D
Nakupo! Pwedeng Kris Kringle o kaya grand raffle prize yun! ;D
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 22, 2008 at 10:39 PM
matindi lalo ang HT room nyan!!! ;D
Congrats sir Mark!!! ;)
(wala po bang pic's?) :D
Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:32 PM
Christmas party EB. ;D Nagpaplano kami ni pchin. ;D
As long as you come in proper costume. Darth Vader? Terminator? Shrek? ;D ;D
matindi yan sir mark, costume eb! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Wow!! 2 Paradigm Servo-15!!! :o :o
matindi lalo ang HT room nyan!!! ;D
Congrats sir Mark!!! ;)
(wala po bang pic's?) :D
Sige, post ako pics. Baka weekend na para kasama ang 3 bagong bass trap.
Post din ako ng chart which shows bass frequency response with only one sub vs two subs. Malaki difference. Much flatter with 2 subs, and that's the main reason why you get 2 subs.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 23, 2008 at 03:56 PM
matindi yan sir mark, costume eb! ;D
May thread na dito on Xmas party. Iniisip namin ni Paul that it will be better to have a party in an HT, rather than a restaurant. Kasya naman 20 sa HT ko. We can have HT-related contests.
Pero iniisip pa rin namin. Ang gulo kasi nun. ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Jul 23, 2008 at 04:03 PM
May thread na dito on Xmas party. Iniisip namin ni Paul that it will be better to have a party in an HT, rather than a restaurant. Kasya naman 20 sa HT ko. We can have HT-related contests.
Pero iniisip pa rin namin. Ang gulo kasi nun. ;D ;D
oo nga, kawawa naman yung ht nyo. pero mababait naman kami, we wont mess up your gears! hehehe ;D ;D ;D
Post by: blackd70s on Jul 23, 2008 at 06:19 PM
baka may input ka about proper/suggested placement for 2 subs . i have 2 digm as well though not like you awesome servo. at the moment my ps1200 is at the right side while the ultracube is on the left. both are set at 80hz, phase is at zero.
your suggestion(s) will be appreciated.
thanks! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 23, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Post by: kefq on Jul 24, 2008 at 07:31 AM
Post by: blackd70s on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:15 AM
You should set LPF to 120 hz. Not 80 hz. Then paandarin mo 1 sub & do test tone. Kunin mo SPL level with Radioshack meter or equivalent. Tapos do the other sub & set it at same level, using gain control of sub. After that, u will need instruments or your ear to optimize location. Ingat! Congrats sa baby!
will try this bro! hahanap lang ako ng sound meter! thanks! but moving forward bro if you wont mind im building my new house at up village. pag nasa finishing na pupuntahan kita para sa suggestions mo ha. tia! woooohoooo!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 24, 2008 at 11:36 AM
will try this bro! hahanap lang ako ng sound meter! thanks! but moving forward bro if you wont mind im building my new house at up village. pag nasa finishing na pupuntahan kita para sa suggestions mo ha. tia! woooohoooo!
Sure. U can come over any time, basta weekend siguro. You can also post questions in the "Building a Dedicated HT" thread.
By the way, I forgot to mention that after you set the gain controls of the subs para equal sila, then you have to run the 2 subs together and make them equal in SPL to the other speakers, using naman the level control in your AVR.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Here are the 2 Digms flanking the Stratus Silver center speaker. The subs are actually quite non-descript. Big black boxes.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/2Digms.jpg)
Second project was to build and install more bass traps. I was so impressed with the first 4 traps that I thought that 7 should be better than 4. ;D So I did 3 more 8-foot traps and installed them at the junction between ceiling and wall. The result, as expected, is an incremental improvement which is smaller than the original improvement. While the bass was previously quite tight, it is now even tighter. I refer to the bass of the big drums - kick drum, kettle drum - and the lower octaves of the bass guitar. Obviously, any improvement in music shows up in movies as well, which are generally easier to reproduce.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5traps.jpg)
I thought it would be interesting to show the following frequency response charts (sorry for the bad pictures but you should still get the idea). This first one shows the response with only one subwoofer (crossover at 80 hz), no audyssey correction and no Velo SMS-1 correction. You will notice that there is a big peak at 40 hz and somehow, the whole region from 20 to 32 hz is depressed.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RTA-1sub.jpg)
This second chart shows the response with 2 subwoofers, a cut by the SMS-1 at 40 hz (there are actually 2 cuts, including a notch filter at 40 hz) and audyssey room correction. The difference between the 2 charts is like night and day. You may also notice that the curve is not absolutely flat, but this is because Audyssey considers the acoustic character of not just the main listening position but the immediate surrounding area as well (cuz you do 8 mic positions). Another thing you notice is that there seems to be a sub-sonic filter at 20 hz. In practice though, I am pretty sure that the response goes below 20 hz - this is the subsonic bass which you can't hear but which you can feel.
When you listen, the result is pretty impressive. A very tight and accurate bass. An even respose across the bass frequencies.
Next bass project will be tougher. Repair the Velo HGS-15 and integrate it with the 2 Digms. This is actually not easy. I hope I can get it to work.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RTA-Audyssey.jpg)
Post by: iiinas on Jul 28, 2008 at 07:39 AM
I've recently done a few things which have improved the bass response in my HT. The proximate cause of the first improvement was the 3rd death of my Velodyne HGS-15 sub. I decided to let it rest for a while and I got a 2nd Paradigm Servo-15 v2 sub. I like this sub cuz its big (I need a big sub for my big HT), it goes low (for some reason, the Velo couldn't go that low) and it has a built-in servo mechanism that prevents it from being overdriven.
Here are the 2 Digms flanking the Stratus Silver center speaker. The subs are actually quite non-descript. Big black boxes.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/2Digms.jpg)
Second project was to build and install more bass traps. I was so impressed with the first 4 traps that I thought that 7 should be better than 4. ;D So I did 3 more 8-foot traps and installed them at the junction between ceiling and wall. The result, as expected, is an incremental improvement which is smaller than the original improvement. While the bass was previously quite tight, it is now even tighter. I refer to the bass of the big drums - kick drum, kettle drum - and the lower octaves of the bass guitar. Obviously, any improvement in music shows up in movies as well, which are generally easier to reproduce.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5traps.jpg)
I thought it would be interesting to show the following frequency response charts (sorry for the bad pictures but you should still get the idea). This first one shows the response with only one subwoofer (crossover at 80 hz), no audyssey correction and no Velo SMS-1 correction. You will notice that there is a big peak at 40 hz and somehow, the whole region from 20 to 32 hz is depressed.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RTA-1sub.jpg)
This second chart shows the response with 2 subwoofers, a cut by the SMS-1 at 40 hz (there are actually 2 cuts, including a notch filter at 40 hz) and audyssey room correction. The difference between the 2 charts is like night and day. You may also notice that the curve is not absolutely flat, but this is because Audyssey considers the acoustic character of not just the main listening position but the immediate surrounding area as well (cuz you do 8 mic positions). Another thing you notice is that there seems to be a sub-sonic filter at 20 hz. In practice though, I am pretty sure that the response goes below 20 hz - this is the subsonic bass which you can't hear but which you can feel.
When you listen, the result is pretty impressive. A very tight and accurate bass. An even respose across the bass frequencies.
Next bass project will be tougher. Repair the Velo HGS-15 and integrate it with the 2 Digms. This is actually not easy. I hope I can get it to work.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RTA-Audyssey.jpg)
great update sir mark to an already outstanding set-up! ;D
btw, what equipment did you use to generate the bass data? ???
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2008 at 07:42 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Popcorn.jpg)
After the initial euphoria of ownership and watching high-def films which are almost indistinguishable from BD (helped of course by my video processor which upscales the 720p to 1080p and adds fine detail, etc.), + pretty good audio as well, you realize that there are a few issues:
1. Video or audio stutter. In about 20% of the flims, it was so bad that the films were not watchable. In others, they would appear 2 or 3 times during a film. Perhaps not that a big a deal but its annoying.
2. Remote sucks big-time. No ergonomics.
3. No rewind. Slow fast-forward. No chapters. But there are work-arounds. You can go to 10%, 20%, 30%, etc. of the film quickly through the numeric keypad. You can also go to a specific time point.
4. If you stop the film, you can't restart from the point you stopped.
Having said all of this, Popcorn is pretty good! Effective way to reduce BD purchases. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2008 at 07:45 AM
great update sir mark to an already outstanding set-up! ;D
btw, what equipment did you use to generate the bass data? ???
It's the Velodyne SMS-1 which you can see, sitting below the Popcorn. It's essentially a parametric equalizer with a built-in Real-Time-Analyzer (RTA). There are actually much cheaper work-arounds. You can use a Behringer Feedback Destroyer and use the REW software which you can download free from the net, but the SMS-1 is more convenient.
Post by: iiinas on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:16 AM
The other recent addition was the now-ubiquitous Popcorn. Here it is sitting on top of the Velo SMS-1:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Popcorn.jpg)
After the initial euphoria of ownership and watching high-def films which are almost indistinguishable from BD (helped of course by my video processor which upscales the 720p to 1080p and adds fine detail, etc.), + pretty good audio as well, you realize that there are a few issues:
1. Video or audio stutter. In about 20% of the flims, it was so bad that the films were not watchable. In others, they would appear 2 or 3 times during a film. Perhaps not that a big a deal but its annoying.
2. Remote sucks big-time. No ergonomics.
3. No rewind. Slow fast-forward. No chapters. But there are work-arounds. You can go to 10%, 20%, 30%, etc. of the film quickly through the numeric keypad. You can also go to a specific time point.
4. If you stop the film, you can't restart from the point you stopped.
Having said all of this, Popcorn is pretty good! Effective way to reduce BD purchases. :)
you are spot on there sir mark.
issue 1 has to do with how the encoders encode their materials into mkv (matroska containers). personally i experienced more of those issues when viewing 1080p materials, thats why i usually get the 720p materials which minimizes the stutters from 2-3/movie to 1 to none at all.
the resume function in the next firmware will hopefully address issue 4. (its in syabas' to do list already).
Post by: alvinthx2 on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:21 AM
I've recently done a few things which have improved the bass response in my HT. The proximate cause of the first improvement was the 3rd death of my Velodyne HGS-15 sub. I decided to let it rest for a while and I got a 2nd Paradigm Servo-15 v2 sub. I like this sub cuz its big (I need a big sub for my big HT), it goes low (for some reason, the Velo couldn't go that low) and it has a built-in servo mechanism that prevents it from being overdriven.
Here are the 2 Digms flanking the Stratus Silver center speaker. The subs are actually quite non-descript. Big black boxes.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/2Digms.jpg)
Second project was to build and install more bass traps. I was so impressed with the first 4 traps that I thought that 7 should be better than 4. ;D So I did 3 more 8-foot traps and installed them at the junction between ceiling and wall. The result, as expected, is an incremental improvement which is smaller than the original improvement. While the bass was previously quite tight, it is now even tighter. I refer to the bass of the big drums - kick drum, kettle drum - and the lower octaves of the bass guitar. Obviously, any improvement in music shows up in movies as well, which are generally easier to reproduce.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5traps.jpg)
I thought it would be interesting to show the following frequency response charts (sorry for the bad pictures but you should still get the idea). This first one shows the response with only one subwoofer (crossover at 80 hz), no audyssey correction and no Velo SMS-1 correction. You will notice that there is a big peak at 40 hz and somehow, the whole region from 20 to 32 hz is depressed.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RTA-1sub.jpg)
This second chart shows the response with 2 subwoofers, a cut by the SMS-1 at 40 hz (there are actually 2 cuts, including a notch filter at 40 hz) and audyssey room correction. The difference between the 2 charts is like night and day. You may also notice that the curve is not absolutely flat, but this is because Audyssey considers the acoustic character of not just the main listening position but the immediate surrounding area as well (cuz you do 8 mic positions). Another thing you notice is that there seems to be a sub-sonic filter at 20 hz. In practice though, I am pretty sure that the response goes below 20 hz - this is the subsonic bass which you can't hear but which you can feel.
When you listen, the result is pretty impressive. A very tight and accurate bass. An even respose across the bass frequencies.
Next bass project will be tougher. Repair the Velo HGS-15 and integrate it with the 2 Digms. This is actually not easy. I hope I can get it to work.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RTA-Audyssey.jpg)
Mark,
Very nice implementation of acoustic traps. Now, isn't it more worthwhile to upgrade the room with both passive and active solutions than spend a ton of money on new equipments (decent components to start with)?
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2008 at 08:43 AM
Mark,
Very nice implementation of acoustic traps. Now, isn't it more worthwhile to upgrade the room with both passive and active solutions than spend a ton of money on new equipments (decent components to start with)?
Alvin, I have heard 2 good quotes which are relevant to what you say.
The first is from Chris Kyriakakis, Chief Tech Officer of Audyssey who lamented that some people will pay tons of money for a DAC which will actually provide a very tiny amount of improvement and then they put the DAC in their acoustically-challenged room which provides 10x more distortion than the cheaper DAC.
The second was: Placing good speakers in a bad room is like driving a Porsche 901 through ice and then blaming the Porsche for the poor road handling.
:) :)
Actually, I am still working on my seat positions. I moved the seats almost 2 feet forward. I think I want to bring them back again - better soundstage - and then get a bigger screen.
Post by: jay2 on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:00 AM
Pinagpahinga mo na ba yung velo mo?
Kelan kaya namin pwede mapakingan ulit yang HT mo :-)
jay
Post by: Munskie on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:05 AM
Another huge Digm of an upgrade......and another dime (very efficient) of an upgrade in those bass traps
Congrats!!!!
Having said all of this, Popcorn is pretty good! Effective way to reduce BD purchases. :)
Mark, Ill pm you the instructions on how to download "files". You are gonna need hard disc space!!!!
Tama ka Mark, medyo mababawas yung BD purchases.....mga must own na lang inaabangan ko (mostly reference quality).
Post by: Munskie on Jul 28, 2008 at 09:10 AM
Alvin, I have heard 2 good quotes which are relevant to what you say.
The first is from Chris Kyriakakis, Chief Tech Officer of Audyssey who lamented that some people will pay tons of money for a DAC which will actually provide a very tiny amount of improvement and then they put the DAC in their acoustically-challenged room which provides 10x more distortion than the cheaper DAC.
The second was: Placing good speakers in a bad room is like driving a Porsche 901 through ice and then blaming the Porsche for the poor road handling.
:) :)
This really makes sense. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2008 at 10:01 AM
Mark great upgrade.
Pinagpahinga mo na ba yung velo mo?
Kelan kaya namin pwede mapakingan ulit yang HT mo :-)
jay
Pahinga lang muna velo. Dadalhin ko sa speaker repair shop na recommend ni Alvin sa Dau.
Txt ka lang kelan mo gusto dumaan. May improvement talaga from the last time. I learned a few more things din bout the DVDO video processor. Ngayon, lahat ng sources ko ay may unique settings through the DVDO kaya mas maganda rin ang pq.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 28, 2008 at 10:02 AM
Mark, Ill pm you the instructions on how to download "files". You are gonna need hard disc space!!!!
Tama ka Mark, medyo mababawas yung BD purchases.....mga must own na lang inaabangan ko (mostly reference quality).
Thanks sa PM! May bago na namang pag-aaralan. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2008 at 12:01 PM
The carpenter tightened the hinges and door knob pero may ingay pa rin so we glued a small piece of rubber on the door jamb (parang sa refrigerator) so the door has to be pulled tightly to close it. More specifically, we used a small piece of tsinelas material. Perfect! ;D
Interesting how a tsinelas can make such a big improvement in a high-tech HT. Kahit hindi Havaianas, galing pa rin. ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 29, 2008 at 07:14 PM
More specifically, we used a small piece of tsinelas material. Perfect! ;D
Interesting how a tsinelas can make such a big improvement in a high-tech HT. Kahit hindi Havaianas, galing pa rin. ;D
This is SPARTANNNN!!!!! :D :D :D . . . buti tsinelas lang katapat nung rattle sir.
E di sarap ulit-ulitin ng C. Dion concert . . . lalo pa may 2nd Servo-15 na.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2008 at 07:43 PM
Anyway, the Spartan (same brand tayo) is a big thing kasi wala na rattle kahit gaano kalalim ang bass. Ang galing!
Kaya nga si Alvin at si Marvin dapat maghanap din saan ang rattle nila at maghanda ng Spartan! Hehe!! E pinaghirapan ko rin ito!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jul 29, 2008 at 07:57 PM
cge sir, hanap nga ako copy ng Destiny's Child . . . para masubukan yang Soldier kung gano kalakas at kababa. ;)
Post by: Mr.H on Jul 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM
really great addition to an already awesome set-up! :D
Congratz!!! ;)
Post by: blackd70s on Jul 30, 2008 at 07:24 PM
en, the result is pretty impressive. A very tight and accurate bass. An even respose across the bass frequencies.
Next bass project will be tougher. Repair the Velo HGS-15 and integrate it with the 2 Digms. This is actually not easy. I hope I can get it to work.
this would mean that you will be having 3 subs already after the repair! whooooaaa bro!
hope you could get it work...... tapos panood kami.... ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2008 at 11:09 PM
this would mean that you will be having 3 subs already after the repair! whooooaaa bro!
hope you could get it work...... tapos panood kami.... ;D
The difficult thing about the third sub in my HT is that it will be at the rear (not the front) and the distance from the main listening position will be very different from the other 2 subs. This means that the sound of the 2 subs in front will arrive later than the sound of the sub at the rear. To compensate for this, you need to insert a device between the AVR and the sub at the rear, which will introduce a slight delay in its sound.
Theoretically, there should be no problem but I really haven't tried it yet.
3 subs is not really a lot. Alvin has 4 subs. I think Mike C has 10. ;D
Post by: blackd70s on Jul 31, 2008 at 06:35 PM
The difficult thing about the third sub in my HT is that it will be at the rear (not the front) and the distance from the main listening position will be very different from the other 2 subs. This means that the sound of the 2 subs in front will arrive later than the sound of the sub at the rear. To compensate for this, you need to insert a device between the AVR and the sub at the rear, which will introduce a slight delay in its sound.
Theoretically, there should be no problem but I really haven't tried it yet.
3 subs is not really a lot. Alvin has 4 subs. I think Mike C has 10. ;D
still bro thats more than two! ;D
di ba masakit sa dibdib yon after?
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 01, 2008 at 07:14 AM
still bro thats more than two! ;D
di ba masakit sa dibdib yon after?
More subs does not necessarily mean more power, unless you raise the trim of your subs above the rest of the speakers (some people like to do that but I don't). In most cases, more subs really means a smoother bass.
Alvin has 4 subs but the total volume is only equal to one sub. What's more important is that his bass response is smooth.
In my case, I really need 2 subs dahil sa sobra laki ng volume ng HT (more than 6000 cubic feet). Beyond 2 subs in my HT, the contribution of a new sub is to help smoothen the bass.
Post by: mike c on Aug 01, 2008 at 04:10 PM
looks like you need this:
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15.html
or quads of this
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15quaddrive.html
;D
bagay yan sa setup mo :) sealed 15's din. wireless pa ang signal (yun lang nga ang electricity hindi wireless unless underwater ka)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 01, 2008 at 04:28 PM
sir streetsmart,
looks like you need this:
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15.html
or quads of this
http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15quaddrive.html
;D
bagay yan sa setup mo :) sealed 15's din. wireless pa ang signal (yun lang nga ang electricity hindi wireless unless underwater ka)
Hehe. ;D
Thanks, Mike! Ganda ng quad! Wireless connection pa. :)
Siguro kapag bumigay na ang Paradigms ko! :)
Post by: danrd on Aug 03, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 03, 2008 at 02:18 PM
Post by: ricky on Aug 04, 2008 at 11:05 AM
I forgot to mention my interesting solution to the CR door which was shaking with heavy LFE material.
The carpenter tightened the hinges and door knob pero may ingay pa rin so we glued a small piece of rubber on the door jamb (parang sa refrigerator) so the door has to be pulled tightly to close it. More specifically, we used a small piece of tsinelas material. Perfect! ;D
Interesting how a tsinelas can make such a big improvement in a high-tech HT. Kahit hindi Havaianas, galing pa rin. ;D
Sir mark you can also try using door seals by raven brand.it reduces vibration and at the same time prevents cold air from escaping the room or the bad smell from the cr to go inside your ht ;D It is so effective ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 04, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Sir mark you can also try using door seals by raven brand.it reduces vibration and at the same time prevents cold air from escaping the room or the bad smell from the cr to go inside your ht ;D It is so effective ;)
Hehe. Yun ba ang nabibili sa TruValue? I think I got that for the main door to the HT and it's really effective - highly recommended, but the jamb for the CR is kinda small so I had to use tsinelas. Ok lang din for some cold air to go to the CR para malamig ng konti. ;D
By the way, di pala nawala lahat ng rattle. Ok sya for most material but not Cloverfield. There is also a portion of Planet Earth which has elephants and the LFE is really low. May rattle din. Hay naku ... Hahanapin ko uli kung saan yun. :(
Post by: ricky on Aug 04, 2008 at 12:31 PM
Hehe. Yun ba ang nabibili sa TruValue? I think I got that for the main door to the HT and it's really effective - highly recommended, but the jamb for the CR is kinda small so I had to use tsinelas. Ok lang din for some cold air to go to the CR para malamig ng konti. ;D
By the way, di pala nawala lahat ng rattle. Ok sya for most material but not Cloverfield. There is also a portion of Planet Earth which has elephants and the LFE is really low. May rattle din. Hay naku ... Hahanapin ko uli kung saan yun. :(
try to put rubber insulation around the door jamb na muna instead of a small portion lang. sometimes pati yung mga loose screws sir nag vivibrate, thin walls and glass panels(and check mo din yung toilet seat ;D) Sir pvc door ba yng sa CR?. But the hardest to treat talaga is yung glass panels,ibang klase yung rattle :(
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 04, 2008 at 01:16 PM
try to put rubber insulation around the door jamb na muna instead of a small portion lang. sometimes pati yung mga loose screws sir nag vivibrate, thin walls and glass panels(and check mo din yung toilet seat ;D) Sir pvc door ba yng sa CR?. But the hardest to treat talaga is yung glass panels,ibang klase yung rattle :(
The door is solid wood. Experiment uli ako. Hanapin ko ung isa pang rattle. It's not that strong and it only appears with really deep LFE.
Thanks sa advice!
Post by: blackd70s on Aug 23, 2008 at 11:12 AM
More subs does not necessarily mean more power, unless you raise the trim of your subs above the rest of the speakers (some people like to do that but I don't). In most cases, more subs really means a smoother bass.
Alvin has 4 subs but the total volume is only equal to one sub. What's more important is that his bass response is smooth.
In my case, I really need 2 subs dahil sa sobra laki ng volume ng HT (more than 6000 cubic feet). Beyond 2 subs in my HT, the contribution of a new sub is to help smoothen the bass.
took your advise sir! now i understand better.
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 23, 2008 at 12:19 PM
took your advise sir! now i understand better.
I hope you have started a DIY bass trap. Flavor of the month. ;D
Post by: blackd70s on Aug 23, 2008 at 12:59 PM
I hope you have started a DIY bass trap. Flavor of the month. ;D
next hopefully! haaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy walang katapusan! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 23, 2008 at 01:47 PM
next hopefully! haaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy walang katapusan! ;D
That's what makes this hobby interesting. Wala talagang katapusan, but you can move at your own pace. Mura naman ang DIY traps. Matrabaho lang. ;D
Post by: Waxx on Sep 11, 2008 at 11:12 PM
thank you sir mark...
our discussion has taught me a lot..it would definitely help me in the construction of my HT..
my deepest and sincerest gratitude for your kind accommodation sir...
sa uulitin...
sana yung HT ko maka 1/4 lang sa ganda ng HT niyo, happy na ako..
thanks again for all the tips.. alam ko ive so maby questions... and thank you for being ever so patient in answering them all.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 12, 2008 at 04:08 AM
Post by: iiinas on Sep 15, 2008 at 03:20 PM
It was my honor to be your host. As we discussed, let's organize a Warning EB! ;D ;D
agree ako dito sir mark! ;D
Post by: jerix on Sep 23, 2008 at 03:54 PM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 27, 2008 at 08:53 AM
see u guys later! :D
Post by: JAQY888 on Sep 27, 2008 at 07:07 PM
it's a pleasure to have finally met you ;D
Matindi talaga ang inyong HT room !!!!! :o :o :o
Jess
Post by: frootloops on Sep 27, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Senor Mark, maraming salamat po sa pag anyaya, I had fun. And it's also nice to meet the pack! That is one hell of an EB. ;)
Till' next time. ;)
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 27, 2008 at 07:43 PM
pareho tayo bro froot, yung mga gears ko hindi yata bagay dito sa forum ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 27, 2008 at 07:47 PM
di bale bagsak ako sa exam....
approved naman yung request kong may tugma sa callsign ko....
ahiihihihihi......... ;D ;D ;D
ako po! ako po yung nag-insist!
pero di akin yung source........... ;D ;D ;D
nice meeting allof the guys! (pati na rin gays!) ;D ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Sep 27, 2008 at 07:54 PM
Andun daw si vic12 kanina!! Gumamit ng ibang handle!!! Sino kaya dun? Tingin ko yung panay kuha ng picture...yari! panay pa naman ang pose ko. :D
Post by: ESi on Sep 27, 2008 at 08:20 PM
As ever you set the pace when it comes to EB's. Thanks sir. Its always a pleasure to go to your humble abode to appreciate and drool over your not so humble set-up. It was an eye and ear opener to me despite the fact na medyo di ko magawa sa sarili ko ang ginagawa ko sa mga taong madla. Lusot ko lang eh wala kasi ako sa sweet spot. Di tulad ni bro XXXyzledge...sweet spot hanggang sa huli. Sobrang ganda nga bro XXXyzledge. I even told my wife na maganda ang P$#N sa HD!!! It was a wonderful opportunity to meet people who share the same passion and obsessions in life. Great meeting you all and at last putting a face to the famous names and handles in the on-line community we all love. ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 27, 2008 at 08:22 PM
maraming salamat po sa napakasayang EB!
di bale bagsak ako sa exam....
approved naman yung request kong may tugma sa callsign ko....
ahiihihihihi......... ;D ;D ;D
ako po! ako po yung nag-insist!
pero di akin yung source........... ;D ;D ;D
nice meeting allof the guys! (pati na rin gays!) ;D ;D ;D
nabigla nga ako dahil bigla ni lock ni Sir Mark yung pinto, kasi papalabas na daw yung request mo ;)
Post by: Superman on Sep 27, 2008 at 08:25 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:19 PM
Post by: Superman on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:24 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2891494997_377a01dbb6_b.jpg)
THERE YOU GO!! Tingnan niyo si Nino Muhlach, nasa extreme right...yung KINGPIN naman nasa kaliwa sa kanyang TRONO, tindi talaga!
I think I know some of the guys...of course Jim, Doc Esi, Doc Mel Nirv, Jas Marl_5...sorry yung iba dehins ko matandaan ang mukha...
Glad you all enjoyed...next time SAMA NAMAN AKO! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:26 PM
If anyone can correctly identify all the guys here, dapat may premyo sya!
The results of the blind test were really surprising! And all the attendees know the preliminary results. However, I don't want to post anything until I have reviewed all the data and formulas. Mahirap na.
Post by: ESi on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:29 PM
Ikaw lang eh, Para saan pa yang superspeed mo? Ikaw lang ang hinihintay namin. Panay ang trabaho eh. Sa pagpalit ng gear ka mabilis!!! at pagbenta. hehehe. You have come a long way since we last met. Hope to see you again one of these days. Sobrang mambitin din!!! hehehe.
Post by: Superman on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:31 PM
Jen,
Ikaw lang eh, Para saan pa yang superspeed mo? Ikaw lang ang hinihintay namin. Panay ang trabaho eh. Sa pagpalit ng gear ka mabilis!!! at pagbenta. hehehe. You have come a long way since we last met. Hope to see you again one of these days. Sobrang mambitin din!!! hehehe.
Maybe you guys can attend the November Hi-Fi Show (Nov. 7-9) at the Mandarin...We can all meet there...Bring your nametag, hehehehe! :D
Post by: frootloops on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:40 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2891494997_377a01dbb6_b.jpg)
Teka teka....bakit wala ako. :(
Post by: Superman on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:43 PM
Post by: Waxx on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:47 PM
..fighting for nmt popcorn hour that is...
hush hush... law of supply and demand...
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 27, 2008 at 09:58 PM
glad to meet y'all pdvders.. iba talaga tong community na to.. worth fighting for...
..fighting for nmt popcorn hour that is...
hush hush... law of supply and demand...
Hahaha! Salamat talaga na attend si @waxx. Super pinoydvd idol!
Complete list of those who attended:
Jaqy888
frootloops
jazzy jake
xxxyzledge
juancho
moks007
waxx
esi
alvinh
revskie
iiiinaslao
kefq
nerveblocker
vtec3
sanmig_ph
dts-hd
danrd
blackie
stickfighter
johne.
npark
ryn0128
marl_5
Salamat uli sa lahat ng dumayo. :)
Post by: Brian_mico on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:01 PM
Teka teka....bakit wala ako. :(
Wow! :o kumpleto ang lahat ng mangkukulam... ano kaya ang feeling ??? ;D ;D ;D
seriously speaking... nakakaingit naman ... sana meron uli next session :)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Post by: tonya on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:06 PM
Ang po-pogi mga sirs!! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Glad you all enjoyed...next time SAMA NAMAN AKO! :D
Actually, I have to be honest ...
This was a blind test or shoot-out. So each one had to give a score. Of course, everyone has to do his best in giving the correct score. E sabi ko na kung may perfect mal (lahat ng hula nya mali), posted sya sa Pinoydvd para wala nang maniniwala sa kanya -- JOKE! In response to that, some people said that they would put "Superman" as the reviewer. I wonder why. Hehe! :)
Post by: Superman on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:16 PM
Post by: juanch on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:19 PM
The PQ of your screen has greatly improved over the last EB.
Colors were striking and give out a sense of 3-dimensionality.
Also the reverberations that I heard before in your HT was absent this time around.
Post by: juanch on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:25 PM
though it was difficult dividing my time between all members since there were almost 25 attendees!
I'm really glad to have met all of you. ;)
Post by: dyerds on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:29 PM
Baka camera shy si sir Froot kaya wala sa group pic. ;D
Congrats for the successful eb sir Smart. :)
Post by: Moks007 on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:31 PM
Post by: ESi on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:36 PM
Sir thanks for everything. As usual great host. Dami tao, masaya talaga.. Pleasure to meet fellow members. I especially like the dessert at the end :D :D..If you know what I mean. ;D
Mouthwatering Cherry Cream Pie!!! ;)
Post by: frootloops on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:40 PM
Can't understand why wala si frootloops sa pic. But a lot of guys were taking pics so I hope they will post too. Nandun talaga siya. Hanap nga sya ng hanap kay vic12 ... baka nandun daw. hehe. ;D
Oo nga, san ka sa pics, donnel?? Or ikaw ba ang kodak-er??
I DEMAND ANOTHER SHOOT-OUT BE HELD. First priority ko yung class picture eh, second lang yung blind test. ;D Wala akong proof sa misis ko, isipin nanaman sa iba ako nagpunta. :-X
Okay ba yun sir mark? ::) And I suggest we use as referrence the last piece that you showed....mas kita ang skin color. :o Ngayon alam ko na ang jaggies. :D :D :D
Post by: ESi on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:49 PM
Not only skin color but the skin pores where there used to be hair! Very sharp and evident! Pati tan lines are very clear! :D
Post by: Mr.H on Sep 27, 2008 at 10:53 PM
Wow! :o kumpleto ang lahat ng mangkukulam... ano kaya ang feeling ??? ;D ;D ;D
seriously speaking... nakakaingit naman ... sana meron uli next session :)
honga bro.Brian Mico....kakainngit talaga! kita kolang mga pics ng dumalo natutuwa din ako hehehehe :D ang saya nila! sana next time nandyan nadin tayo with audio junkie hehehehe :D ;)
Can't understand why wala si frootloops sa pic. But a lot of guys were taking pics so I hope they will post too. Nandun talaga siya. Hanap nga sya ng hanap kay vic12 ... baka nandun daw. hehe. ;D
hinahanap yata yung pangtahe diba brader froot?? hehehehehe :D ;D ;)
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 27, 2008 at 11:04 PM
Post by: mike c on Sep 27, 2008 at 11:08 PM
kakainggit naman :)
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 27, 2008 at 11:11 PM
sarap talaga dumayo, kahit 3hrs na byahe sulit talaga ;D
mukhang hindi ko na kailangan mag hap grade sa true hd, bagsak yata ako eh :D walang golden ears :D
sa tropang south,sta rosa, bitin ang inom ituloy natin kila xxx :D ituloy natin yung kay debbie hihihi
dumadami na ang tropa dapat may initiation na ;D
sa brader donnel ang magtatahi ;D si waxx and blackie ang hahataw ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 27, 2008 at 11:27 PM
bro froot,
Not only skin color but the skin pores where there used to be hair! Very sharp and evident! Pati tan lines are very clear! :D
ang laki naman ng skin pores na kita, lalo na nung tumalikod yung bida ;D ganda nung set-up ni Sir Mark pati yung balat na maliit sa kaliwa hita kita ;D ;D ;D
Post by: leomar on Sep 27, 2008 at 11:43 PM
congrats!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 28, 2008 at 12:03 AM
ang saya ! ! ! ! ! !
:D :D :D
Thanks sir Mark for inviting me over, lots of Q's in my mind has been answered again this afternoon.
Nice meeting you all! 8)
Post by: alvinh on Sep 28, 2008 at 12:08 AM
You are as I imagined. Kasing galing ng HT mo!
Thanks again for the really wonderful, exciting and educational visit to your lair.
Parang back to school with the papers and tests! ;D ;D ;D
Nice to meet everyone!
More power to you and your HT!
Post by: Marl☆1 on Sep 28, 2008 at 01:38 AM
I love the way you set up the shootout Mark, the detailed sequencing, the scoring sheet, the booze (oops) er I mean everything was planned to the detail. Again kudos to the test, you've made a believer out of me and as a testament to that, this baby just got delivered to my doorstep after I got home:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2892026319_22fc7b22b7_b.jpg)
Enjoying this NMT immensely! I'd like to thank our pdvd bro gren (Richie) for dropping over the item kanina - that's service for ya. Dala ng bugso ng damdamin - maya-maya lang baka dumagsa na ang posts ng pre-owned BD's and BD players... :D
O mga kasama - group buy na!!! Sabi ni richie he can give out bulk discounts! Tira na mga bros! ;D
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=85597.0
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 28, 2008 at 06:51 AM
Ambibingi nyo!!! ;D ;D ;D
Palinis muna tayo tenga kay Esi....
Post by: iiinas on Sep 28, 2008 at 07:47 AM
Hey Mark, congrats sir for another successful EB. The good thing is we had a blast and a conclusive test (can't believe it still! ;)), the bad thing is I didn't see vic. ;D
I love the way you set up the shootout Mark, the detailed sequencing, the scoring sheet, the booze (oops) er I mean everything was planned to the detail. Again kudos to the test, you've made a believer out of me and as a testament to that, this baby just got delivered to my doorstep after I got home:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3187/2892026319_22fc7b22b7_b.jpg)
Enjoying this NMT immensely! I'd like to thank our pdvd bro gren (Richie) for dropping over the item kanina - that's service for ya. Dala ng bugso ng damdamin - maya-maya lang baka dumagsa na ang posts ng pre-owned BD's and BD players... :D
O mga kasama - group buy na!!! Sabi ni richie he can give out bulk discounts! Tira na mga bros! ;D
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=85597.0
WOWWW! ang bilis sir marl, ayos yan, the more the manyer!!! atleast pag may next eb marami ng ka-swap ng..... ;D
Post by: iiinas on Sep 28, 2008 at 07:49 AM
the best eb yet (for me)! can't wait for the next one.... an i'm sure marami ng magkaka nmt dito after the results of the shoot-out. ;D
Post by: juanch on Sep 28, 2008 at 09:03 AM
BTW sorry mga sirs, malamig na siomai ko during kain time :)
Post by: ESi on Sep 28, 2008 at 09:09 AM
Best line sabi ni sir Mark nung nakita yung results ng DD/Dolby True HD test:
Ambibingi nyo!!! ;D ;D ;D
Palinis muna tayo tenga kay Esi....
Mel,
Mukhang pati ako kailangan ko na ring magpalinis sa kapwa ko. Mababa ang score ko eh. hehehe. Pero dapat you should be present kailangan GA o sedation. hehehe. Sama ka na sa group buy bro. PM me if you want to join us.
Post by: Moks007 on Sep 28, 2008 at 09:27 AM
bro froot,
Not only skin color but the skin pores where there used to be hair! Very sharp and evident! Pati tan lines are very clear! :D
LOL..ya parang nga I saw ingrown hair in the area you are saying haha.. ;D..But man Im disappointed in one of the results, I think you are too hehe..I can't believe it. I think the player itself should be calibrated. I calibrate mine sa sharpness and contrast even after calibration sa tv. I don't know if this would help but mine seem to be better after adjusting contrast, brightness and sharpness on the player itself hehe. I may be doing it wrong but definitely have improvement after adjusting..I notice nga the pics on that player weren't like that on the previous shootout. Maybe its the disc transfer hehe..Hollow man superbit and The rock criterion were just great copies
Post by: revskie on Sep 28, 2008 at 09:37 AM
I just want to thank you for the invitation. It was a pleasure to feel the warm camaraderie of PDVD members.
Thanks for hosting the EB and four thumbs up (2 hands + 2 feet!) on the blind test. It was an eye and EAR openning experience!
Topnotch HT rig!
Lastly, cheers to all PDVD members in the EB. It was an experience meeting you all!
Regards!
Rev
PS. Lets do this again soon! I volunteer my place. I am in Sta Mesa near Stop and Shop. I do not have a really big HT room to accommodate everybody but we have a roofdeck to house everyone while enjoying your favorite red wine and san mig light!
Post by: ESi on Sep 28, 2008 at 09:47 AM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:14 AM
I DEMAND ANOTHER SHOOT-OUT BE HELD. First priority ko yung class picture eh, second lang yung blind test. ;D Wala akong proof sa misis ko, isipin nanaman sa iba ako nagpunta. :-X
Okay ba yun sir mark? ::) And I suggest we use as referrence the last piece that you showed....mas kita ang skin color. :o Ngayon alam ko na ang jaggies. :D :D :D
wala ka nga sa pix... eh totoo naman wala ka sa EB (sana mabasa ni mrs froots to!) ;D
baka nasa CR ka nyan? ;D
Kainggit naman! Sasaya...
Ang po-pogi mga sirs!! ;)
nasa huli pagsisisi............... ;D ;D ;D
Best line sabi ni sir Mark nung nakita yung results ng DD/Dolby True HD test:
Ambibingi nyo!!! ;D ;D ;D
Palinis muna tayo tenga kay Esi....
ano kamo? di ko marinig? ;D
hehehehe... di bale bingi...
greatest experience dun yung bonding! ;D
dito ba ipopost resulta ng shootout?
pwede pa-pm din score? ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:36 AM
uulitin ko lang ulit...MARAMING SALAMAT!!!
this was one heaven of an experience i would like to repeat...over...and over...and over! thanks for putting up and hosting such a truly momentous EB!
ibang klase ito! dapat maulit!
mga kapatid sa PDVD!
isa lang masasabi ko...ang saya saya! pasensya na sa kulet ni brader xxx...tsk...akalain mo ba namang magrekwest ng ganun...tsk tsk tsk! sir mark, pakopya na lang nun ha! ;D
sana meron magimbita naman sa south! anak ng kamote, e out of town na lang kami lagi! ahaha!
see you all sa susunod na EB!
papalabas daw dun yung - "debbie does demo!"
;D ;D ;D
cheers ya' all!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:39 AM
I DEMAND ANOTHER SHOOT-OUT BE HELD. First priority ko yung class picture eh, second lang yung blind test. ;D Wala akong proof sa misis ko, isipin nanaman sa iba ako nagpunta. :-X
Okay ba yun sir mark? ::) And I suggest we use as referrence the last piece that you showed....mas kita ang skin color. :o Ngayon alam ko na ang jaggies. :D :D :D
pssst! brader don! aba eh nasan ka nga ba?
Post by: iiinas on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Sir Mark,
I just want to thank you for the invitation. It was a pleasure to feel the warm camaraderie of PDVD members.
Thanks for hosting the EB and four thumbs up (2 hands + 2 feet!) on the blind test. It was an eye and EAR openning experience!
Topnotch HT rig!
Lastly, cheers to all PDVD members in the EB. It was an experience meeting you all!
Regards!
Rev
PS. Lets do this again soon! I volunteer my place. I am in Sta Mesa near Stop and Shop. I do not have a really big HT room to accommodate everybody but we have a roofdeck to house everyone while enjoying your favorite red wine and san mig light!
ayos ito sir revskie. sali ako dyan...
Post by: tonya on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:54 AM
nasa huli pagsisisi............... ;D ;D ;D
Tama ka dyan Master Jim... :(
Pero happy na rin kasi na-i-share nyo agad sa amin ang expi nyo
Congrats Sir Mark!!! :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:56 AM
Quote from: revskie
PS. Lets do this again soon! I volunteer my place. I am in Sta Mesa near Stop and Shop. I do not have a really big HT room to accommodate everybody but we have a roofdeck to house everyone while enjoying your favorite red wine and san mig light!
uyyy! sama din ako dito!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:03 AM
Tama ka dyan Master Jim... :(
Pero happy na rin kasi na-i-share nyo agad sa amin ang expi nyo
Congrats Sir Mark!!! :)
mas ok sana expi pag andun ka! ahihihihihi..... ;D
uyyy! sama din ako dito!
sama uli tayo! ;D
Post by: tonya on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:06 AM
mas ok sana expi pag andun ka! ahihihihihi..... ;D
natakot ako kasi sabi ni Idol Waxx sasabay daw nya ako...
Eh alam kapag may kasama sya, si vic12 yun!
Baka mabugbog ako! hahahaha....
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:07 AM
natakot ako kasi sabi ni Idol Waxx sasabay daw nya ako...
Eh alam kapag may kasama sya, si vic12 yun!
Baka mabugbog ako! hahahaha....
kaya mo naman defend sarili mo eh............
wahahahahahaha !!! ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:08 AM
kaya mo naman defend sarili mo eh............
wahahahahahaha !!! ;D
oist! bad ka ha! hahahahahaha!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:09 AM
natakot ako kasi sabi ni Idol Waxx sasabay daw nya ako...
Eh alam kapag may kasama sya, si vic12 yun!
Baka mabugbog ako! hahahaha....
talaga naman si waxx! sumimple!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM
Quote from: XXXyzledge
sama uli tayo! ;D
halika na! dito lang sa kapitbahay ko meron oh!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM
talaga naman si waxx! sumimple!
honga no? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Count me in sir rev. Another rig to drool over!!!! ;)
doc angelo, nice meeting you! hindi mo naituloy yung tinatanong mo sa akin!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:14 AM
halika na! dito lang sa kapitbahay ko meron oh!aba! may hangover pa ng EB ah!
kenino?
kay joey o k alvin? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM
aba! may hangover pa ng EB ah!
kenino?
kay joey o k alvin? ;D ;D ;D
tsk...kanino nga ba? dami na nating mapupuntahan! buti na lang nakilala na natin ang mga mas matitinik ng sta. rosa laguna!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:19 AM
tsk...kanino nga ba? dami na nating mapupuntahan! buti na lang nakilala na natin ang mga mas matitinik ng sta. rosa laguna!
yahoo! house hopping na ito!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: blackie on Sep 28, 2008 at 12:05 PM
Awesome gear, awesome Theater. Very organized blind and auditory (do you have the golden ear?) test ;D More Power to you and it was great to have met everyone ;D
Cheers!
Black
P.S.
Who brought the Sincerity Chicken? Jaw dropping din!!!
Post by: audiojunkie on Sep 28, 2008 at 01:11 PM
honga bro.Brian Mico....kakainngit talaga! kita kolang mga pics ng dumalo natutuwa din ako hehehehe :D ang saya nila! sana next time nandyan nadin tayo with audio junkie hehehehe :D ;)
hinahanap yata yung pangtahe diba brader froot?? hehehehehe :D ;D ;)
brader Jermie, Kitang-kita nga sa kanilang ngiti ang kasiyahan.... :o :o :o Congratz! sa very successful EB sana meron pa next time ::) and have chance to meet you all guys... :D ;D :D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:13 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3006/2893677909_d5cac5e42d.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/2894519322_1fb19cd4cd.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:17 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2894535444_84670ed479.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:33 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3139/2891494997_377a01dbb6_b.jpg)
Let me try to identify the guys. Kung magkamali ako, will someone kindly correct. Seated (left to right):
jaqy888, sanmigph, xxxyzledge, JohnE., marl_5
Standing, left to right:
revskie, esi, streetsmart, kefq, alvinh, dts-hd, iiinas, danrd, blackie, npark, ryn0128, nerveblocker, vtec3, juancho, waxx, moks007, stickfighter, jazzy jake
Missing: frootloops, zedric (arrived late)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:37 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2894567480_dd4332a946.jpg)
Post by: John E. on Sep 28, 2008 at 02:46 PM
thanks sir mark for the fantastic EB you put-up!
sana may part 2 ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 03:14 PM
kailan kaya nga mauulit!???!
brader john - nag CR lang sandali si brader froots! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 04:56 PM
Sir Mark, thanks for hosting this EB
The PQ of your screen has greatly improved over the last EB.
Colors were striking and give out a sense of 3-dimensionality.
Also the reverberations that I heard before in your HT was absent this time around.
Thanks, Juancho. I bought a video calibration system a few weeks ago. I spent 4 hours last week helping the AV Driver technician calibrate the pj. The result nga is a big improvement in pq. Actually, it can still improve! Maybe next week, I will try to tweak it some more.
Bass has also improved a lot. The 2 Paradigm subs help a lot. Then I tweaked sub positions, subwoofer mgt system and Audyssey. Result is pretty good.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:04 PM
LOL..ya parang nga I saw ingrown hair in the area you are saying haha.. ;D..But man Im disappointed in one of the results, I think you are too hehe..I can't believe it. I think the player itself should be calibrated. I calibrate mine sa sharpness and contrast even after calibration sa tv. I don't know if this would help but mine seem to be better after adjusting contrast, brightness and sharpness on the player itself hehe. I may be doing it wrong but definitely have improvement after adjusting..I notice nga the pics on that player weren't like that on the previous shootout. Maybe its the disc transfer hehe..Hollow man superbit and The rock criterion were just great copies
Raymund, as I noted in the other thread, its not really surprising that the Oppo will get trounced. Keep in mind that Pio was connected to the DVDO VP50Pro, which did deinterlacing, upscaling, fine detail enhancement, etc. Actually, I wanted to prove that the video processor can improve a cheap player like the Pio so that it could beat an Oppo. But of course, panala pa rin ang BD and Popcorn. Malayo.
I spent a lot of time calibrating the pj first and then individually calibrating the players, using Video Essentials or Avia. The brightness, contrast and color saturation of the Oppo were optimized. However, I left the sharpness at zero because if you remember the last Batman scene, there was a very strong evidence of edge enhancement. That was the Oppo, and if you increase sharpness, the edge enhancement gets worse.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:05 PM
PS. Lets do this again soon! I volunteer my place. I am in Sta Mesa near Stop and Shop. I do not have a really big HT room to accommodate everybody but we have a roofdeck to house everyone while enjoying your favorite red wine and san mig light!
Okay ito. Aprub! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:18 PM
tsk...kanino nga ba? dami na nating mapupuntahan! buti na lang nakilala na natin ang mga mas matitinik ng sta. rosa laguna!
Eto HT ng friend ko sa Sta. Rosa. He would be very happy to host an EB.
Ang galing talaga ng system nya. Lalo na ang sound absorbers. ;D
JMLab speakers
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryscreen.jpg)
Sony VPL-VW60 projector:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryrear.jpg)
Special sound absorbers:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:38 PM
Eto HT ng friend ko sa Sta. Rosa. He would be very happy to host an EB.
Ang galing talaga ng system nya. Lalo na ang sound absorbers. ;D
JMLab speakers
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryscreen.jpg)
Special sound absorbers:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
miss ko na si focals! hayyyyyy.......
sir mark, lagi namang andun yung special absorbers diba? sana sa EB andun din!
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:46 PM
As I mentioned in my PM to you guys, the HD blind test was only one of the objectives of the EB. I thought of organizing a really big EB when the Warning thread blew up and seemed to cause mistrust and paranoia in the community. I thought that a big masaya EB would help to bring back the camaraderie at Pinoydvd, and I think we have achieved that objective. Special mention siguro sa mga magugulo kagaya ni xxxyzledge and his special requests. ;D ;D Special mention din to Waxx, the Pinoydvd idol and Mr. Golden Ears. ;D ;D
Mahirap din to organize the EB, lalo na ang procedure for the blind test. I had to re-calibrate the pj and individually calibrate each source. Had to choose scenes which would best show the differences between HD and SD video and audio. Had to design a simple scoring system and tabulation method. But actually, what was giving me sleepless nights was the possibility that one of the key components would break down in the middle ... like the pj lamp blowing, or the fuse of the AVR - it happens. Mabuti na lang that all went well.
Maraming salamat to iiinas, who went to the house at 9 a.m. and helped me to work out the actual details of which scenes to show and of how to switch between scenes, etc. I couldn't have done the blind test without his help.
I am really looking forward to the next EB. Revskie has offered his place and my friend's HT at Sta Rosa is also available - it's quite big, mga 40 square meters siguro.
Cheers! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 05:48 PM
sir mark, lagi namang andun yung special absorbers diba? sana sa EB andun din!
Hahaha! Baka kanya-kanyang bitbit na lang ng special absorbers! ;D ;D
Here's another view of the great pj:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2755218099_cac2ebc7af.jpg)
Post by: Marl☆1 on Sep 28, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Hahaha! Baka kanya-kanyang bitbit na lang ng special absorbers! ;D ;D
Here's another view of the great pj:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2755218099_cac2ebc7af.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
Pucha tara na sir Mark!!! Where do I sign? lol :D
Now that's a class-A sound absorber - lambot nyan! ;)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 28, 2008 at 06:36 PM
hmmmm saan kaya galing si frootloops :D
thanks sir mark for the fantastic EB you put-up!
sana may part 2 ;D
Di talaga kami dapat kita dyan ang tataas ng mga nasa unahan eh ;D
Nahuli lang tumungtong sa silya si froot kaya ayun . . . mas tumangkad pa kami kay Blackie :D
D best talaga itong EB na ito! hehe
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 28, 2008 at 07:32 PM
Hahaha! Baka kanya-kanyang bitbit na lang ng special absorbers! ;D ;D
Here's another view of the great pj:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2755218099_cac2ebc7af.jpg)
patay na po! sigurado ko kukuyugin to ng lahat ng miyembro!
btw, may number ka ba niya sir Mark??? ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 28, 2008 at 08:39 PM
nice meeting allof the guys! (pati na rin gays!) ;D ;D ;D
Mare, bigyan mo naman ako ng tips para malandi ang dating ng HT ko. Floral design na room tapos kulay pink yung AV rack! Ahay!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 08:43 PM
patay na po! sigurado ko kukuyugin to ng lahat ng miyembro!
btw, may number ka ba niya sir Mark??? ;D
Masama sana i-post ko .. pero naman kasi professional model yun! Kawawa naman sya. ;D ;D
Post by: alvinh on Sep 28, 2008 at 08:59 PM
Siguradong matutuwa nito ang mga neighbors kong mga letter J's...hatorni lipat ka na dito sa Sta Rosa! ;D ;D ;D
Kidding aside, we are all really grateful for all the learnings from the EB. The best one talaga is the bonding among fellow pdvd members.
That's something that can never be replaced. Let me just reiterate...Sir Mark, hats off to you! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Nice HT sir Mark! Is this the one where you said I could watch you calibrate the PJ? Naku...lapit lang nito sa bahay.
Siguradong matutuwa nito ang mga neighbors kong mga letter J's...hatorni lipat ka na dito sa Sta Rosa! ;D ;D ;D
Kidding aside, we are all really grateful for all the learnings from the EB. The best one talaga is the bonding among fellow pdvd members.
That's something that can never be replaced. Let me just reiterate...Sir Mark, hats off to you! :D
Hi Alvin! Yes, that's the HT I was talking about. I became his consultant. The acoustic design was done by AV Driver.
About fellow-enthusiasts ... we have our small world, have our own jokes which only we understand, have these itches which only we can commiserate with ... That's why it's great to meet people who think the same way! I find that's normally the best part of a good EB. :)
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 28, 2008 at 10:54 PM
Pucha tara na sir Mark!!! Where do I sign? lol :D
Now that's a class-A sound absorber - lambot nyan! ;)
Jasper, tested na ang sound absorber na yan. Very effective. It absorbs not just sounds but many other things as well. ;D ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Kainggit naman! Sasaya...
Ang po-pogi mga sirs!! ;)
sama po kayo sa next EB :D
Post by: Marl☆1 on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:28 PM
Jasper, tested na ang sound absorber na yan. Very effective. It absorbs not just sounds but many other things as well. ;D ;D
Haha... noted Mark. Well kung ganyan ang usapan sir, wala ba tayong shoot out na "sound absorbers" edition naman? :D Naku feeling ko, kahit napakalaki na ng HT mo sir, mukhang kailangang doblehin pa para ma-accommodate ang mga magda-dagsaang mga 'testers.' ;)
Post by: Munskie on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:36 PM
Congrats to Mark for another successful EB. Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat. ;)
And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts.
Well done Mark. ;)
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:45 PM
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB. :-[
Congrats to Mark for another successful EB. Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat. ;)
And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts.
Well done Mark. ;)
sayang pare sana nakadalo ka din ;D
Post by: frootloops on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:50 PM
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB. :-[
Congrats to Mark for another successful EB. Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat. ;)
And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts.
Well done Mark. ;)
Bro, yung unang subo ko ng fried chicken at pancit na dala ko para sayo yun. Promise! ;D Marami pa tayong pag-uusapan bro, hintayin mo lang sa PM. ;)
Post by: Munskie on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:55 PM
Bro, yung unang subo ko ng fried chicken at pancit na dala ko para sayo yun. Promise! ;D Marami pa tayong pag-uusapan bro, hintayin mo lang sa PM. ;)
:'( Sa shoot out di ko mami miss yun (mahirap magkamali eh)........pero sa inuman at kwentuhan, talo ako.
PM lang Donnel....HTH.
Post by: Munskie on Sep 28, 2008 at 11:58 PM
sayang pare sana nakadalo ka din ;D
someday somehow pare........dala ako whiskey... ;)
Post by: iiinas on Sep 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
Maraming salamat to iiinas, who went to the house at 9 a.m. and helped me to work out the actual details of which scenes to show and of how to switch between scenes, etc. I couldn't have done the blind test without his help.
Cheers! :)
glad to be of help sir mark, anytime sir, ang sarap yatang tumambay sa ht nyo. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 29, 2008 at 12:06 AM
someday somehow pare........dala ako whiskey... ;)
bumaha din pare ng wine sa EB ;D
ako kuha lang ng kuha ng sanmig sa ref ;D
may nakita ako dala si brader ESi
johnie walker ;D
Post by: tonya on Sep 29, 2008 at 07:48 AM
sama po kayo sa next EB :D
Sana nga sir sanmig_ph.. I'm sure marami pang next time :)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 07:53 AM
Kaka inggit naman.....hirap talaga ako makapunta sa EB. :-[
Congrats to Mark for another successful EB. Ito na yata ang pinaka successful sa lahat. ;)
And I was browsing thru sa SD vs BD thread, and I think the results will reinforce the ongoing revolution sa mga HD enthusiasts.
Well done Mark. ;)
Miz namin kayong dalawa ni pchin! Kapag natapos na ang HT ni pareng Jay2, baka dun na tayo magkita! :) :)
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:14 AM
Sana nga sir sanmig_ph.. I'm sure marami pang next time :)
sa next eb sa sta rosa mafia,sa friend ni sir mark sana makasama ka na ;)
Post by: ert on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Eto HT ng friend ko sa Sta. Rosa. He would be very happy to host an EB.\
Ang galing talaga ng system nya. Lalo na ang sound absorbers. ;D
JMLab speakers
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryscreen.jpg)
Sony VPL-VW60 projector:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Perryrear.jpg)
Special sound absorbers:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
nice home theater! i think yung picture with the model is mafefeature sya sa T3 magazine tama ba? ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:44 AM
thanks sa special mention bro mark!
ako po yun! ako yung nagrequest! pero....
enjoy naman lahat sa request kong berger pix eh! ;D
wow!
may next EB na agad? sta rosa pa!
game!
cge, inyo na yung sound absorber... dadala na lang ako sarili kong sound absorber! ;D
ganda ng HT room!
cguro dun yan sa Westgrove!
Post by: frootloops on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:47 AM
I finally solved the mystery. Eto si frootloops. Standing, 5th from left.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3161/2894567480_dd4332a946.jpg)
Ayun sa wakas! di ba crop yan? ;D joke. Thank you sir mark.
brader john - nag CR lang sandali si brader froots! ;D
Nasa CR nga, hindi ko maibulsa yung universal remote, ang laki! umiilaw pa sa dilim. ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 29, 2008 at 08:47 AM
haba ng binasa ko para humabol! hehehehe...
thanks sa special mention bro mark!
ako po yun! ako yung nagrequest! pero....
enjoy naman lahat sa request kong berger pix eh! ;D
wow!
may next EB na agad? sta rosa pa!
game!
cge, inyo na yung sound absorber... dadala na lang ako sarili kong sound absorber! ;D
ganda ng HT room!
cguro dun yan sa Westgrove!
lol brader ipagdala mo na din ako sound absorber :D
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Eta ata ang sweet spot!!! Baka lahat humiga ah este umupo pala sa rug sa harap...
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:55 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
Eta ata ang sweet spot!!! Baka lahat humiga ah este umupo pala sa rug sa harap...
buti na lang mahilig ako sa sweetspot ! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:14 AM
\
nice home theater! i think yung picture with the model is mafefeature sya sa T3 magazine tama ba? ;D
Ang galing mo naman. Yes. That's why there's a T3 mag on the coffee table.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:18 AM
ganda ng HT room!
cguro dun yan sa Westgrove!
Tama. Westgrove nga. Neighbor ni Sharon. ;D ;D
Post by: juanch on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:23 AM
PS. Lets do this again soon! I volunteer my place. I am in Sta Mesa near Stop and Shop. I do not have a really big HT room to accommodate everybody but we have a roofdeck to house everyone while enjoying your favorite red wine and san mig light!
bro rev, game ako dyan ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Tama. Westgrove nga. Neighbor ni Sharon. ;D ;D
calling all sharonians!
hatorni... froots !!! OPPOrtunity na to!
ay! popcorn na pala....... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:50 AM
Tama. Westgrove nga. Neighbor ni Sharon. ;D ;D
uuyy, alam ko yan ah.... hmmmm.... ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:57 AM
calling all sharonians!
hatorni... froots !!! OPPOrtunity na to!
ay! popcorn na pala....... ;D ;D ;D
baka andun si pareng gabbi :D dito sa indang kapitbahay namin si KC :D
kamote cue ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:00 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
Eta ata ang sweet spot!!! Baka lahat humiga ah este umupo pala sa rug sa harap...
si Debbie ba yang nasa sweet spot na yan ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ert on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:05 AM
Ang galing mo naman. Yes. That's why there's a T3 mag on the coffee table.
hehe d ko napansin yung t3 mag on the coffee table :) pinakita lang kasi sa akin ng taga T3 yung home theater kasi and they saw na may popcorn hour din kasi sya :)
Post by: iiinas on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:10 AM
baka andun si pareng gabbi :D dito sa indang kapitbahay namin si KC :D
kamote cue ;D
lapit na yan sir, pag nasa westgrove ka, dulo nun silang, cavite na... ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:21 AM
lapit na yan sir, pag nasa westgrove ka, dulo nun silang, cavite na... ;D
medyo malapit na sa amin yan, tagaytay ang daan ;D
ayos na ayos ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:28 AM
medyo malapit na sa amin yan, tagaytay ang daan ;D
ayos na ayos ;D
less than an hour trip...
matipid sa gas.... gulong lang pababa........... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: alvinh on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:31 AM
medyo malapit na sa amin yan, tagaytay ang daan ;D
ayos na ayos ;D
San ka ba brader Joel? ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:36 AM
San ka ba brader Joel? ;D
sa indang brader, malapit na sa mendez. from taal vista mga 15 mins na lang
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:41 AM
hehe d ko napansin yung t3 mag on the coffee table :) pinakita lang kasi sa akin ng taga T3 yung home theater kasi and they saw na may popcorn hour din kasi sya :)
Ah ok .. Ako adviser ng HT owner. Kaya sya bumili ng Popcorn with 1 TB hdd kay pareng HD_MOVIES ... and a DVDO Iscan VP50Pro, a Denon 2808, Sony VPL-VW60 pj, Paradigm Servo-15 sub, Panny BD-30, Denon DVD player, Anthem 5-channel power amp, and 7 JMLab speakers. Maganda sobra ang system nya. Tulo laway din. ;D ;D
Plus the acoustics were designed by AV Driver and implemented by their sub-contractor. Ang galing talaga. Kahit attic sya, naayos nila ang sound.
Post by: ert on Sep 29, 2008 at 11:44 AM
Ah ok .. Ako adviser ng HT owner. Kaya sya bumili ng Popcorn with 1 TB hdd kay pareng HD_MOVIES ... and a DVDO Iscan VP50Pro, a Denon 2808, Sony VPL-VW60 pj, Paradigm Servo-15 sub, Panny BD-30, Denon DVD player, Anthem 5-channel power amp, and 7 JMLab speakers. Maganda sobra ang system nya. Tulo laway din. ;D ;D
Plus the acoustics were designed by AV Driver and implemented by their sub-contractor. Ang galing talaga. Kahit attic sya, naayos nila ang sound.
ahh ok galing.. :) sana nagpaadvice din ako sayo nun tinayo un home theater hehe.. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM
ahh ok galing.. :) sana nagpaadvice din ako sayo nun tinayo un home theater hehe.. :)
Di naman. I think your set-up is pretty good. Big enough too for a nice EB. ;D ;D
Post by: den1224 on Sep 29, 2008 at 12:57 PM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:29 PM
naalala ko.... bakit wala si pchin?
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:42 PM
read the invite again a while ago....
naalala ko.... bakit wala si pchin?
Hehe. Kasalanan ko yun. Nilagay ko sya as part of the organizers kasi neighbor ko sya and dati, lagi naman sya nagtutulong sa EB. Turned out that sobra busy sya sa work so he couldn't attend. Madalas din out-of-town nya. Kaya nga madalang na rin mag-post, d gaya ng dati. Si iiinas na lang ang katulong ko kasi neighbors din kami.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Hehe. Kasalanan ko yun. Nilagay ko sya as part of the organizers kasi neighbor ko sya and dati, lagi naman sya nagtutulong sa EB. Turned out that sobra busy sya sa work so he couldn't attend. Madalas din out-of-town nya. Kaya nga madalang na rin mag-post, d gaya ng dati. Si iiinas na lang ang katulong ko kasi neighbors din kami.
ahh! ic....
sayang di ko sya nameet!
saya nyo naman dyan!
dami nyo pala magkakatabi-tabi!
sabagay... kala ko 2 lang kami ni jake sa sta rosa...
yun pala dun din si alvinh tapos si joeygs pa! ;D
dami rin pala kami! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:54 PM
ahh! ic....
sayang di ko sya nameet!
saya nyo naman dyan!
dami nyo pala magkakatabi-tabi!
sabagay... kala ko 2 lang kami ni jake sa sta rosa...
yun pala dun din si alvinh tapos si joeygs pa! ;D
dami rin pala kami! ;D
the sta rosa mafia!
actually sir xxx, pag sa umaga malapit ako dyan sa inyo, dito ako sa canlubang nag-o-office. minsan dyan pa kami lunch out with my colleagues sa paseo. ;D
Post by: alvinh on Sep 29, 2008 at 01:55 PM
ahh! ic....
sayang di ko sya nameet!
saya nyo naman dyan!
dami nyo pala magkakatabi-tabi!
sabagay... kala ko 2 lang kami ni jake sa sta rosa...
yun pala dun din si alvinh tapos si joeygs pa! ;D
dami rin pala kami! ;D
One more brader Jim, si Damaso...around Enchanted Kingdom lang yun. ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 29, 2008 at 02:06 PM
the sta rosa mafia!
actually sir xxx, pag sa umaga malapit ako dyan sa inyo, dito ako sa canlubang nag-o-office. minsan dyan pa kami lunch out with my colleagues sa paseo. ;D
wow!
layo ng biyahe!
astig pa rin ng manila gangsta kaysa sta rosa mafia! ;D
One more brader Jim, si Damaso...around Enchanted Kingdom lang yun. ;D
uy!
eb na tlga dapat!
para magkakilala-kilala na! ;D
Post by: frootloops on Sep 29, 2008 at 03:19 PM
calling all sharonians!
hatorni... froots !!! OPPOrtunity na to!
ay! popcorn na pala....... ;D ;D ;D
present!! magdadala ako ng banner at poster ni shawi. Kahit sa gitna pa ng taal vocano yan sasama ko. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 29, 2008 at 06:04 PM
simula nung nagpa grand EB ka eh grabe ang HT gallery kulaman! ibang klase ang spike!
cheers to that really! mukhang matindi tindi ang na build na fellowship!
kailangan talagang maulit! sana dumami din ang absorbers sa mga EB, at pwede din ma-test!
;D ;D ;D
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 29, 2008 at 06:13 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:19 PM
I want to thank everyone who joined the EB yesterday for coming, and for the drinks and food you brought. I know that some of you guys came from quite far away. Special mention to sanmig_ph who took a few hours to get to the house. There also seems to be a big Sta Rosa mafia that attended. ;D
As I mentioned in my PM to you guys, the HD blind test was only one of the objectives of the EB. I thought of organizing a really big EB when the Warning thread blew up and seemed to cause mistrust and paranoia in the community. I thought that a big masaya EB would help to bring back the camaraderie at Pinoydvd, and I think we have achieved that objective. Special mention siguro sa mga magugulo kagaya ni xxxyzledge and his special requests. ;D ;D Special mention din to Waxx, the Pinoydvd idol and Mr. Golden Ears. ;D ;D
Mahirap din to organize the EB, lalo na ang procedure for the blind test. I had to re-calibrate the pj and individually calibrate each source. Had to choose scenes which would best show the differences between HD and SD video and audio. Had to design a simple scoring system and tabulation method. But actually, what was giving me sleepless nights was the possibility that one of the key components would break down in the middle ... like the pj lamp blowing, or the fuse of the AVR - it happens. Mabuti na lang that all went well.
Maraming salamat to iiinas, who went to the house at 9 a.m. and helped me to work out the actual details of which scenes to show and of how to switch between scenes, etc. I couldn't have done the blind test without his help.
I am really looking forward to the next EB. Revskie has offered his place and my friend's HT at Sta Rosa is also available - it's quite big, mga 40 square meters siguro.
Cheers! :)
Sir Mark, congratulations to a very successful EB! And it was very nice to meet you. ;D I enjoyed and had fun. :P It was also nice to meet several of our memders. You can surely expect to see me on the next coming EB's! ;D
Post by: frootloops on Sep 29, 2008 at 09:59 PM
P.S.
Who brought the Sincerity Chicken? Jaw dropping din!!!
Where can you buy this?
A pleasure meeting you bro blackie. ;)
maliit na tao ka lang pala. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:00 PM
sir mark!
simula nung nagpa grand EB ka eh grabe ang HT gallery kulaman! ibang klase ang spike!
cheers to that really! mukhang matindi tindi ang na build na fellowship!
kailangan talagang maulit! sana dumami din ang absorbers sa mga EB, at pwede din ma-test!
;D ;D ;D
That was the intention. And I really worked hard to make it sobra saya. :)
Ang ayoko lang talaga sa EB ay ang mga bwisit na mangku dito!!! Bad talaga! >:( >:(
Nang EB, napabili ako ng 1 TB na hdd kay bro ... sino ba yun? ... carlsberg yata handle nya? .. ewan
Tapos ngayon, na-swap ko na Popcorn ko sa Egreat dahil namin kay .. sino ba yun ... kaka-iiinas na ... ewan
Konswelo de bobo na lang ay ang ganda talaga ng pq ni dibidi .. o debbie ba yun?? ???
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:02 PM
Sir Mark, congratulations to a very successful EB! And it was very nice to meet you. ;D I enjoyed and had fun. :P It was also nice to meet several of our memders. You can surely expect to see me on the next coming EB's! ;D
Kaw talaga ... E special mention ka na 5 out of 6 ang tama sa audio blind test! D ka naman golden ears pero siguro "SILVER EARS" ;D ;D
Congrats! :)
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Kaw talaga ... E special mention ka na 5 out of 6 ang tama sa audio blind test! D ka naman golden ears pero siguro "SILVER EARS" ;D ;D
Congrats! :)
Talaga Sir Mark! :o Pa-PM naman po ng results ko sa blind test natin...thanks! ;D
Post by: Marl☆1 on Sep 29, 2008 at 10:59 PM
Konswelo de bobo na lang ay ang ganda talaga ng pq ni dibidi .. o debbie ba yun?? ???
aba ayos yan sir mark - paki-upload nga sa hot or not thread nyang link na yan to dibidi... este ddd...
(http://www.cbspressexpress.com/media/assets/photos/medium/2007/04/30/debbiedoesdallasagain_003.jpg)
Post by: sanmig_ph on Sep 30, 2008 at 08:14 AM
That was the intention. And I really worked hard to make it sobra saya. :)
Ang ayoko lang talaga sa EB ay ang mga bwisit na mangku dito!!! Bad talaga! >:( >:(
Nang EB, napabili ako ng 1 TB na hdd kay bro ... sino ba yun? ... carlsberg yata handle nya? .. ewan
Tapos ngayon, na-swap ko na Popcorn ko sa Egreat dahil namin kay .. sino ba yun ... kaka-iiinas na ... ewan
Konswelo de bobo na lang ay ang ganda talaga ng pq ni dibidi .. o debbie ba yun?? ???
ayos sir mark nadale din kayo ng mangkus? congrats sa e great ;D
iinas bad :D cheers brader ;D
Post by: iiinas on Sep 30, 2008 at 08:55 AM
ayos sir mark nadale din kayo ng mangkus? congrats sa e great ;D
iinas bad :D cheers brader ;D
congrats sa egreat sir mark.
hehehe 1 tera kaagad! tapos nakita pa debbie at iron man.
;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 30, 2008 at 09:01 AM
congrats mr silver ears! kung pinakopya mo lang sana ako....
silver ears din ako! ;D
Post by: alvinh on Sep 30, 2008 at 11:34 AM
congrats sa egreat sir mark.
hehehe 1 tera kaagad! tapos nakita pa debbie at iron man.
;D ;D ;D
Because of the speed of Jas and the quick reaction of Sir Mark, eto na:
http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=85774.0 (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=85774.0);D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 30, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Kelangan pa ng agenda ... We need to think up of some test or something .. Maybe testing different types of sound absorbers? Pero d na blind test, ha. ;D ;D
Special sound absorbers:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/2755032841_8cdca242c9.jpg)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 30, 2008 at 02:36 PM
Pumayag na friend ko to host EB at his place in Westgrove, Sta Rosa, neighbor of Sharon. Tentative date is Saturday, Oct. 25, 2 pm. May van ako so Manila guys can hitch with me.
Kelangan pa ng agenda ... We need to think up of some test or something .. Maybe testing different types of sound absorbers? Pero d na blind test, ha. ;D ;D
hahahahahaha !!!
i like!! debbie uli !! lots of debbies !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 30, 2008 at 03:22 PM
Post by: iiinas on Sep 30, 2008 at 03:28 PM
Pumayag na friend ko to host EB at his place in Westgrove, Sta Rosa, neighbor of Sharon. Tentative date is Saturday, Oct. 25, 2 pm. May van ako so Manila guys can hitch with me.
Kelangan pa ng agenda ... We need to think up of some test or something .. Maybe testing different types of sound absorbers? Pero d na blind test, ha. ;D ;D
Ayos!
Post by: alvinh on Sep 30, 2008 at 03:32 PM
Then motorcade tayo hanggang sa Westgrove.
Mukhang another grand EB 'to Sir Mark!
Isasabay na rin natin sa fireworks ng Enchanted pag announce ng winning absorber. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 01, 2008 at 10:20 AM
Post by: Marl☆1 on Oct 01, 2008 at 10:28 AM
Pumayag na friend ko to host EB at his place in Westgrove, Sta Rosa, neighbor of Sharon. Tentative date is Saturday, Oct. 25, 2 pm. May van ako so Manila guys can hitch with me.
Nice, another EB, another reason to spread SARS! :D
Kelangan pa ng agenda ... We need to think up of some test or something .. Maybe testing different types of sound absorbers? Pero d na blind test, ha. ;D ;D
Why don't we try and settle some audio myths (ala mythbusters na to ah...). For instance, the supposed advantage of analog vs. digital (the black pizza vs. silver platter debate). Or why not compare Tube vs. SS set-ups? Will the sound be discernible? hehe... daming puede gawin. ;D You can choose more HERE. (http://www.ethanwiner.com/myths.html) ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 01, 2008 at 10:28 AM
anak ng...nasa out of town ata ako nito ah! hmmm...kailangan gumawa ng rason para makasama >:(
gawan agad ng paraan yan!
u wouldnt want to miss this event! ;D
Post by: John E. on Oct 01, 2008 at 10:40 AM
Post by: blackie on Oct 01, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Where can you buy this?
A pleasure meeting you bro blackie. ;)
maliit na tao ka lang pala. ;D
Ayan ha!
Dalawa na kami ni Loops naghahanap ng Sincerity Chicken!
Nice to meet you too Sir! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 01, 2008 at 11:12 AM
Ayan ha!
Dalawa na kami ni Loops naghahanap ng Sincerity Chicken!
Nice to meet you too Sir! ;D
serious ba kayo sir blackie at sir froot sa sincerity chicken, the original branch is in nueva street binondo manila. maliit lang na resto. typical hole in the wall. pero as many of these chinese restos, nag expand na sila, so i don't know if they have opened new brnaches somewhere.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 01, 2008 at 11:25 AM
serious ba kayo sir blackie at sir froot sa sincerity chicken, the original branch is in nueva street binondo manila. maliit lang na resto. typical hole in the wall. pero as many of these chinese restos, nag expand na sila, so i don't know if they have opened new brnaches somewhere.
bro;
masarap din yung oyster cake nila!
o-wa-tsien !!! ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 01, 2008 at 11:33 AM
Post by: Marl☆1 on Oct 01, 2008 at 12:05 PM
parang CHIBUGAN EB ang mangyayari ah! masarap to!
Pucha - tsaka na yang HT o Audio - Tsibugan na lang!!! :D
'Sincerity Chicken' parang ang salap nun ah...
Sorry sir Mark na-OT na talaga itong thread... wala - pagkain eh... ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 01, 2008 at 12:19 PM
(http://www.cbspressexpress.com/media/assets/photos/medium/2007/04/30/debbiedoesdallasagain_003.jpg)
ahhhhh.... debbie........ nice seeing u here............ ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 01:02 PM
Nice, another EB, another reason to spread SARS! :D
Why don't we try and settle some audio myths (ala mythbusters na to ah...). For instance, the supposed advantage of analog vs. digital (the black pizza vs. silver platter debate). Or why not compare Tube vs. SS set-ups? Will the sound be discernible? hehe... daming puede gawin. ;D You can choose more HERE. (http://www.ethanwiner.com/myths.html) ;)
Isa pa naisip ko is to have a lecture, with Q&A. Possible lectures:
1. NMT's, downloading, etc. -- Richie See of eHome
2. Audio & video calibration and tweaking -- AV Driver technician (sila rin gumawa ng acoustics ng HT sa Sta Rosa)
Post by: ESi on Oct 01, 2008 at 01:15 PM
Isa pa naisip ko is to have a lecture, with Q&A. Possible lectures:
1. NMT's, downloading, etc. -- Richie See of eHome
2. Audio & video calibration and tweaking -- AV Driver technician (sila rin gumawa ng acoustics ng HT sa Sta Rosa)
Great idea sir mark! since most of the guys are both audio and video philes this would help a lot! The new and affordable DVDO edge looks promising but how will it compare to you v50? That's another shoot out provided we can loan one from I dont know who. ;D
Post by: danrd on Oct 01, 2008 at 01:16 PM
Post by: alvinh on Oct 01, 2008 at 01:27 PM
Isa pa naisip ko is to have a lecture, with Q&A. Possible lectures:
1. NMT's, downloading, etc. -- Richie See of eHome
2. Audio & video calibration and tweaking -- AV Driver technician (sila rin gumawa ng acoustics ng HT sa Sta Rosa)
These are great ideas Sir Mark. Specially with the current trend after the EB at your place.
Maybe we can also go over the features of NMTs and how to maximize its use.
Since we have different levels of set-ups, it will also help if we can go over the "ideal" AQ and PQ. Though subjective in nature, they can be considered as reference points.
Maybe we can already come up with a pre-determined set of questions limited to audio/video calibration and tweaking to be discussed there at the EB?
Acoustics/Room treatment/Speaker placement may also help since they play a big role in sound improvement.
Thanks Sir! ;D
Post by: blackie on Oct 01, 2008 at 02:33 PM
Sir Mark thanks a lot again for the invite. You don't realize how happy you made everyone. :)
Early Christmas treat ;D
Yes Iiinas, was serious about the sincerity. too bad medyo layo. Nice to meet you last EB.
Sir Jim, will try the oyster cake if ever i get the chance.
Sorry Sir Streetsmart, but you truly made everyone who came enjoy... visually, audibly, and gastronomically ;D I don't think the chateau los boldos lasted 2 minutes ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Sir Mark thanks a lot again for the invite. You don't realize how happy you made everyone. :)
Yup, the last time I remember, you were trying to find out how to steal my concert dvd's ... ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 03:13 PM
Great idea sir mark! since most of the guys are both audio and video philes this would help a lot! The new and affordable DVDO edge looks promising but how will it compare to you v50? That's another shoot out provided we can loan one from I dont know who. ;D
The Edge has most of the features of the VP50Pro. Its just less flexible. You can't do a comparison because they are practically the same. And since the Edge is 20% of the cost of the VP50Pro, its selling like hotcakes right now.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 03:15 PM
These are great ideas Sir Mark. Specially with the current trend after the EB at your place.
Maybe we can also go over the features of NMTs and how to maximize its use.
Since we have different levels of set-ups, it will also help if we can go over the "ideal" AQ and PQ. Though subjective in nature, they can be considered as reference points.
Maybe we can already come up with a pre-determined set of questions limited to audio/video calibration and tweaking to be discussed there at the EB?
Acoustics/Room treatment/Speaker placement may also help since they play a big role in sound improvement.
Thanks Sir! ;D
Let me talk to these potential lecturers and see if I can convince them to do it. Then we can plan things out in more detail.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 03:17 PM
Sorry Sir Streetsmart, but you truly made everyone who came enjoy... visually, audibly, and gastronomically ;D I don't think the chateau los boldos lasted 2 minutes ;D
Ay! Ung isang wine pala ang tinutukoy mo. Akala ko si Debbie ... kasa chateau los boldos
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 07:18 PM
The big advantage of this model is that it has a USB slave, which means that you can plug it to your PC and manipulate the files through the PC.
It also has a USB port at the back so cabling is neater. Ang Popcorn 100 kasi ay nasa harap lang ang USB port.
Response is much faster than before. I think that's mainly cuz of the firmware update.
Start-up time is still slow. Parang PC sya.
Now you can switch it off. Popcorn 100 kasi, walang Off button. Standby lang.
The remote is better. Ganda shape nya - more ergonomic. Piano finish. But basically, the remote still sucks. The play/pause/stop buttons should have different shapes. It's very easy to press the stop and then that's the end of you kasi wala syang Resume. Hahanapin mo kung saan ka nag-stop.
Mas gwapo rin dating nya. Pangit ng Popcorn.
For me, the biggest problem is the noise of the fan. Maingay. I sit about 7 feet from the unit and at that distance, tolerable na ang noise. If you sit maybe 3 feet away, it's really noisy.
Overall, its pretty good. But if you are seated close to it, it's way too noisy.
And by the way, the movies were great! No stutters. No drop-outs. A lot of detail. Jaw-dropping. :)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 01, 2008 at 07:21 PM
After watching Iron Man and Vantage Point (both 1080p!) on the Egreat 31b, my thoughts:
The big advantage of this model is that it has a USB slave, which means that you can plug it to your PC and manipulate the files through the PC.
It also has a USB port at the back so cabling is neater. Ang Popcorn 100 kasi ay nasa harap lang ang USB port.
Response is much faster than before. I think that's mainly cuz of the firmware update.
Start-up time is still slow. Parang PC sya.
Now you can switch it off. Popcorn 100 kasi, walang Off button. Standby lang.
The remote is better. Ganda shape nya - more ergonomic. Piano finish. But basically, the remote still sucks. The play/pause/stop buttons should have different shapes. It's very easy to press the stop and then that's the end of you kasi wala syang Resume. Hahanapin mo kung saan ka nag-stop.
Mas gwapo rin dating nya. Pangit ng Popcorn.
For me, the biggest problem is the noise of the fan. Maingay. I sit about 7 feet from the unit and at that distance, tolerable na ang noise. If you sit maybe 3 feet away, it's really noisy.
Overall, its pretty good. But if you are seated close to it, it's way too noisy.
And by the way, the movies were great! No stutters. No drop-outs. A lot of detail. Jaw-dropping. :)
wow! nice FR sir mark!
Post by: ESi on Oct 01, 2008 at 07:25 PM
I believe you made my itch get worse!!! Got to do something about this!!! ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 01, 2008 at 07:27 PM
Sir Mark,
I believe you made my itch get worse!!! Got to do something about this!!! ;D
hahahahaha !!
kunin na agad yung order mo bro! ;D
Post by: alvinh on Oct 01, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Sir Mark,
I believe you made my itch get worse!!! Got to do something about this!!! ;D
Doc gel, paano ba yan? Mukhang di na tayo aabot ng one day nito ah. Meron na kayang 1Tera? >:(
Post by: ricky on Oct 01, 2008 at 07:54 PM
After watching Iron Man and Vantage Point (both 1080p!) on the Egreat 31b, my thoughts:
The big advantage of this model is that it has a USB slave, which means that you can plug it to your PC and manipulate the files through the PC.
It also has a USB port at the back so cabling is neater. Ang Popcorn 100 kasi ay nasa harap lang ang USB port.
Response is much faster than before. I think that's mainly cuz of the firmware update.
Start-up time is still slow. Parang PC sya.
Now you can switch it off. Popcorn 100 kasi, walang Off button. Standby lang.
The remote is better. Ganda shape nya - more ergonomic. Piano finish. But basically, the remote still sucks. The play/pause/stop buttons should have different shapes. It's very easy to press the stop and then that's the end of you kasi wala syang Resume. Hahanapin mo kung saan ka nag-stop.
Mas gwapo rin dating nya. Pangit ng Popcorn.
For me, the biggest problem is the noise of the fan. Maingay. I sit about 7 feet from the unit and at that distance, tolerable na ang noise. If you sit maybe 3 feet away, it's really noisy.
Overall, its pretty good. But if you are seated close to it, it's way too noisy.
And by the way, the movies were great! No stutters. No drop-outs. A lot of detail. Jaw-dropping. :)
Manong TAMA NA PLS :'( ;D Kung sino pa yung senior sya pa yung sutil ;D Daig mo pa yung seller mang-buyo ah :D Kakainggit na talaga :( :D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Oct 01, 2008 at 08:06 PM
wow! nice FR sir mark!
O ha, detalyado . . . bagay na bagay sa speakers at aircon mo sir mark . . . piano finish din.
Saang MP kaya in-FR ni sir Mark yan? :D ehe kala ko nsa kabila ako :D
Post by: blackd70s on Oct 01, 2008 at 08:13 PM
seemed your eb went well! congrats bro and thanks again for the invite! hopefully next time makapunta na ko!
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 11:18 PM
O ha, detalyado . . . bagay na bagay sa speakers at aircon mo sir mark . . . piano finish din.
Hehe. Napansin mo rin na pula ang aircon ko. Pati water dispenser. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 01, 2008 at 11:19 PM
bro mark!
seemed your eb went well! congrats bro and thanks again for the invite! hopefully next time makapunta na ko!
Yup! Hope d ka nabingi masyado sa Singapore! ;D ;D
D ba parang drill ng dentista ang tunog ng F1? ;D
Post by: frootloops on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:53 AM
At pag-dating mo sa baba, di mo malaman kung saan pinto ka lalabas. ;D
Yung isang pinto pag bukas ko nasa Adriatico na ako. :o :D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 02, 2008 at 08:39 AM
Mahirap lang mag-inuman at malasing pala sa HT nyo sir Mark, medyo mataas ang gugulangan pababa. ;D
At pag-dating mo sa baba, di mo malaman kung saan pinto ka lalabas. ;D
Yung isang pinto pag bukas ko nasa Adriatico na ako. :o :D
aba!
nagpagulong-gulong ka sa palasyo ni bro mark? ;D
O ha, detalyado . . . bagay na bagay sa speakers at aircon mo sir mark . . . piano finish din.
Saang MP kaya in-FR ni sir Mark yan? :D ehe kala ko nsa kabila ako :D
ay! buking! member ka pala dun ha! ;D
Hehe. Napansin mo rin na pula ang aircon ko. Pati water dispenser. ;D ;D
very unique nga mga yun!
HOT red color...
COLD outputs!!!! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:31 AM
At pag-dating mo sa baba, di mo malaman kung saan pinto ka lalabas. ;D
Yung isang pinto pag bukas ko nasa Adriatico na ako. :o :D
Hehe. Parang Matrix. Buti na lang d mo nabuksan yung isa pang pinto kung saan nagtatago si Debbie ... at si xxx! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:33 AM
Hehe. Parang Matrix. Buti na lang d mo nabuksan yung isa pang pinto kung saan nagtatago si Debbie ... at si xxx! ;D ;D ;D
sssshh!!
secret place namin ni debbie yan sa palasyo mo sir! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:43 AM
After watching Iron Man and Vantage Point (both 1080p!) on the Egreat 31b, my thoughts:
The big advantage of this model is that it has a USB slave, which means that you can plug it to your PC and manipulate the files through the PC.
It also has a USB port at the back so cabling is neater. Ang Popcorn 100 kasi ay nasa harap lang ang USB port.
Response is much faster than before. I think that's mainly cuz of the firmware update.
Start-up time is still slow. Parang PC sya.
Now you can switch it off. Popcorn 100 kasi, walang Off button. Standby lang.
The remote is better. Ganda shape nya - more ergonomic. Piano finish. But basically, the remote still sucks. The play/pause/stop buttons should have different shapes. It's very easy to press the stop and then that's the end of you kasi wala syang Resume. Hahanapin mo kung saan ka nag-stop.
Mas gwapo rin dating nya. Pangit ng Popcorn.
For me, the biggest problem is the noise of the fan. Maingay. I sit about 7 feet from the unit and at that distance, tolerable na ang noise. If you sit maybe 3 feet away, it's really noisy.
Overall, its pretty good. But if you are seated close to it, it's way too noisy.
And by the way, the movies were great! No stutters. No drop-outs. A lot of detail. Jaw-dropping. :)
NICE!!! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:46 AM
The Edge has most of the features of the VP50Pro. Its just less flexible. You can't do a comparison because they are practically the same. And since the Edge is 20% of the cost of the VP50Pro, its selling like hotcakes right now.
hotcakes indeed, its out of stocks in amazon now. altough other sellers have stocks 699$. very positive reviews from users at avsforum. ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:57 AM
Hehe. Napansin mo rin na pula ang aircon ko. Pati water dispenser. ;D ;D
nasa row-4 kasi kami :D
@xXx
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ay! buking! member ka pala dun ha!
shhh . . . hinuhuli lang kita kung member ka din dun ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 02, 2008 at 11:05 AM
@xXx
shhh . . . hinuhuli lang kita kung member ka din dun ;D
gave up my membership dun....
wholesome na eh.... kaya pdvd tambay na! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 11:16 AM
He is willing to participate in the EB, not to sell but to educate everyone on NMT's. He will set-up a network, do a Powerpoint, explain basic stuff like the various kinds of movie files, how to download, his vision of the future with a networked home, etc. Obviously, may Q&A session din.
What do you guys think? Will this be a good agenda for the EB? Of course, kasama na rin sa EB ang usual stuff - watching reference clips, eating, drinking, chatting, bolahan, kodakan, testing of sound absorbers ... We can also show differences between 480p, 720p and 1080p pero wala muna siguro blind test.
Post by: alvinh on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:08 PM
I just talked to Richie See of eHome. I had previously met Richie at their store and we spent a lot of time chatting about NMT's. He has been actively working with all the various NMT's since March of this year. He has done a lot of experimentation. Basically, I think it would be safe to say that he is one of the most knowledgeable persons in the country, when it comes to NMT's. He is also a very nice guy.
He is willing to participate in the EB, not to sell but to educate everyone on NMT's. He will set-up a network, do a Powerpoint, explain basic stuff like the various kinds of movie files, how to download, his vision of the future with a networked home, etc. Obviously, may Q&A session din.
What do you guys think? Will this be a good agenda for the EB? Of course, kasama na rin sa EB ang usual stuff - watching reference clips, eating, drinking, chatting, bolahan, kodakan, testing of sound absorbers ... We can also show differences between 480p, 720p and 1080p pero wala muna siguro blind test.
Perfecto Sir Mark! Can't get any better than that. Unless, merong raffle ng (1) Egreat for promotion. ahahahah! ;D Kahit unit lang!
Post by: blackie on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:19 PM
I just talked to Richie See of eHome. I had previously met Richie at their store and we spent a lot of time chatting about NMT's. He has been actively working with all the various NMT's since March of this year. He has done a lot of experimentation. Basically, I think it would be safe to say that he is one of the most knowledgeable persons in the country, when it comes to NMT's. He is also a very nice guy.
He is willing to participate in the EB, not to sell but to educate everyone on NMT's. He will set-up a network, do a Powerpoint, explain basic stuff like the various kinds of movie files, how to download, his vision of the future with a networked home, etc. Obviously, may Q&A session din.
What do you guys think? Will this be a good agenda for the EB? Of course, kasama na rin sa EB ang usual stuff - watching reference clips, eating, drinking, chatting, bolahan, kodakan, testing of sound absorbers ... We can also show differences between 480p, 720p and 1080p pero wala muna siguro blind test.
Would be nice to be part of this ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:25 PM
I just talked to Richie See of eHome. I had previously met Richie at their store and we spent a lot of time chatting about NMT's. He has been actively working with all the various NMT's since March of this year. He has done a lot of experimentation. Basically, I think it would be safe to say that he is one of the most knowledgeable persons in the country, when it comes to NMT's. He is also a very nice guy.
He is willing to participate in the EB, not to sell but to educate everyone on NMT's. He will set-up a network, do a Powerpoint, explain basic stuff like the various kinds of movie files, how to download, his vision of the future with a networked home, etc. Obviously, may Q&A session din.
What do you guys think? Will this be a good agenda for the EB? Of course, kasama na rin sa EB ang usual stuff - watching reference clips, eating, drinking, chatting, bolahan, kodakan, testing of sound absorbers ... We can also show differences between 480p, 720p and 1080p pero wala muna siguro blind test.
oks na ito sir mark! para may oras pa tayo kumuha ng autograph ni ate shawie!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Superman on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:27 PM
Post by: alvinh on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:33 PM
Where's the venue of the EB?? Sayang, kasi I'll be in Manila Oct.12-13 lang :D
Sana you can join Sup...been anticipating the chance to meet with you and pick your expertise sa audio. That plus, you the MAN! I meant, MANG! hehehe ;D
It really sounds that the upcoming EB will be more educational. Hats off again Professor Mark! ;D
Post by: juanch on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:40 PM
I just talked to Richie See of eHome. I had previously met Richie at their store and we spent a lot of time chatting about NMT's. He has been actively working with all the various NMT's since March of this year. He has done a lot of experimentation. Basically, I think it would be safe to say that he is one of the most knowledgeable persons in the country, when it comes to NMT's. He is also a very nice guy.
He is willing to participate in the EB, not to sell but to educate everyone on NMT's. He will set-up a network, do a Powerpoint, explain basic stuff like the various kinds of movie files, how to download, his vision of the future with a networked home, etc. Obviously, may Q&A session din.
What do you guys think? Will this be a good agenda for the EB? Of course, kasama na rin sa EB ang usual stuff - watching reference clips, eating, drinking, chatting, bolahan, kodakan, testing of sound absorbers ... We can also show differences between 480p, 720p and 1080p pero wala muna siguro blind test.
This will be interesting, I want to get more understanding on how these NMT's work.
Sir Mark, kelan ba to? And san yung venue?
Thanks
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Where's the venue of the EB?? Sayang, kasi I'll be in Manila Oct.12-13 lang :D
Westgrove. Sta. Rosa
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:48 PM
Sir Mark, kelan ba to? And san yung venue?
Thanks
Saturday, Oct 25
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:53 PM
I could ask John to give a brief lecture on audio & video calibration.
Iniisip ko lang na baka kapusin ng oras.
Post by: iiinas on Oct 02, 2008 at 12:59 PM
Actually, aside from Richie, I was thinking of inviting John, the technician of AV Driver. As far as I know, he is the only ISF and THX-certified person in the country. It's kinda appropriate to invite him kasi AV Driver set up most of the equipment, including the acoustic design.
I could ask John to give a brief lecture on audio & video calibration.
Iniisip ko lang na baka kapusin ng oras.
ok sana, pero i think kakapusin nga ng time. :(
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 01:13 PM
ok sana, pero i think kakapusin nga ng time. :(
Sige, next time na lang ang audio-video lecture.
Kasi sa NMT's lang, dami na siguradong tanong - I'm pretty sure Richie can answer nearly any question about any NMT cuz they carry all the brands. May mga demo pa sigurado. And they will set up an entire network daw with server. Sarap panoorin din ang demo nun.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 02, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Sige, next time na lang ang audio-video lecture.
Kasi sa NMT's lang, dami na siguradong tanong - I'm pretty sure Richie can answer nearly any question about any NMT cuz they carry all the brands. May mga demo pa sigurado. And they will set up an entire network daw with server. Sarap panoorin din ang demo nun.
pwede naman ata 2 room...
1 for HT-audio.... 1 for NMT...................... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Oct 02, 2008 at 02:29 PM
XXX at DTS-HD = MTB's ! ! ! manila tonight boys hihihihi :D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 03:16 PM
Aha!! Aside from the term NMT, may na-discover akong iba sa thread na ito. MTB !
XXX at DTS-HD = MTB's ! ! ! manila tonight boys hihihihi :D
Saang MP kaya in-FR ni sir Mark yan? :D ehe kala ko nsa kabila ako :D
Matagal ko nga iniisip kung ano ibig sabihin ng "MP" at "FR" .. Maniac Place? Frivate Room?
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 02, 2008 at 03:19 PM
Matagal ko nga iniisip kung ano ibig sabihin ng "MP" at "FR" .. Maniac Place? Frivate Room?
MP = Foot Massage / IceCream Parlor
FR = Field Report (feedback ng mga nanggaling na dun sa massage parlor!) ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 03:23 PM
MP = Foot Massage / IceCream Parlor
FR = Field Report (feedback ng mga nanggaling na dun sa massage parlor!) ;D ;D ;D
Oh ... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 02, 2008 at 03:23 PM
MP = Foot Massage / IceCream Parlor
FR = Field Report (feedback ng mga nanggaling na dun sa massage parlor!) ;D ;D ;D
ayos ah! pang manila tonight nga yan! ;D
Post by: kefq on Oct 02, 2008 at 07:11 PM
Nice meeting you all. . ;)
Post by: frootloops on Oct 02, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Matagal ko nga iniisip kung ano ibig sabihin ng "MP" at "FR" .. Maniac Place? Frivate Room?
LOL!!! :D Grabe and tawa ko dito sir Mark. :D Nahawa ka na sa sfelling ng triad. ;D
Ngayon lang ako nakakita ng CR na may ref ;D ibang klase talaga Palasyo ni Don Pedro este ni Sir Mark pala ;D
Nice meeting you all. . ;)
When I asked someone where to get the softdrinks (forgot who he is), he pointed me to that door. Pagbukas ko ng pinto nakita ko toilet bowl, sabi ko "niloloko yata ako nun tinanungan ko ah...", pero andun pala talaga. :D
Pleasure meeting you too Bro kefq. ;)
Post by: Munskie on Oct 02, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 08:41 PM
PSP alam nyo??? ;D ;D ;D
PlayStation Portable??
Sirit ...
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:17 PM
PSP alam nyo??? ;D ;D ;D
PUTOK sabay Punas ??? ;D ;D ;D
sirit na rin..........
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 02, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Post by: Munskie on Oct 02, 2008 at 11:01 PM
PlayStation Portable??
Sirit ...
PUTOK sabay Punas ??? ;D ;D ;D
sirit na rin..........
Hehehe....
Personal Service Provider
Post by: flak-jacket on Oct 03, 2008 at 12:08 AM
Ngayon lang ako nakakita ng CR na may ref ;D ibang klase talaga Palasyo ni Don Pedro este ni Sir Mark pala ;D
Nice meeting you all. . ;)
tsk tsk si kefq oh! hindi ako niyaya sa dream theater ni sir streetsmart. :( ;D
nice EB guys! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 03, 2008 at 07:30 AM
Hehehe....
Personal Service Provider
Mukhang pareho yata ang hilig ninyong tatlo: Munskie, xxxyzledge, dts-hd
Bakit parang pareho ang lenguahe nyo? ;D ;D
Post by: JAQY888 on Oct 03, 2008 at 08:01 AM
Mukhang pareho yata ang hilig ninyong tatlo: Munskie, xxxyzledge, dts-hd
Bakit parang pareho ang lenguahe nyo? ;D ;D
hahahahahahah ........ ang daming mga acronyms a .....
PSP ang hilig ng mga MTBs ..... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 03, 2008 at 08:28 AM
Hehehe....
Personal Service Provider
provider............... GLOBE or SMART ? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: blackie on Oct 03, 2008 at 06:06 PM
Ngayon lang ako nakakita ng CR na may ref ;D ibang klase talaga Palasyo ni Don Pedro este ni Sir Mark pala ;DNice meeting you too Sir,
Nice meeting you all. . ;)
Don't forget to mention yun laman ng ref........Cold, cold San Mig Light!!!
Post by: frootloops on Oct 03, 2008 at 07:58 PM
Nice meeting you too Sir,
Don't forget to mention yun laman ng ref........Cold, cold San Mig Light!!!
Naku, nakaka-inggit nga kayong may mga hawak ng SanMig Light at wine, ako PEPSI, (para kay JazzyJake ;D ), diresto office kasi ako after that. :'(
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 03, 2008 at 08:04 PM
Naku, nakaka-inggit nga kayong may mga hawak ng SanMig Light at wine, ako PEPSI, (para kay JazzyJake ;D ), diresto office kasi ako after that. :'(
good boy brader donnel :D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 03, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Naku, nakaka-inggit nga kayong may mga hawak ng SanMig Light at wine, ako PEPSI, (para kay JazzyJake ;D ), diresto office kasi ako after that. :'(
salamat ng marami brader froots sa patuloy na pagtangkilik sa produkto namin! siguradong dadami na ang wawalisin kong tansan dito sa planta! ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Oct 04, 2008 at 01:45 AM
Aha!! Aside from the term NMT, may na-discover akong iba sa thread na ito. MTB !
XXX at DTS-HD = MTB's ! ! ! manila tonight boys hihihihi :D
Nakup . . . wala po akong kinalaman dyan. peksman . . . nai-kwento lang sa akin tungkol sa mga yan :D
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ibang klase talaga Palasyo ni Don Pedro este ni Sir Mark pala
O eto, tripleX . . . si bro kefq dumadayo pa ng burgos. :D member din hahaha
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Mukhang pareho yata ang hilig ninyong tatlo: Munskie, xxxyzledge, dts-hd
Bakit parang pareho ang lenguahe nyo?
Si kefq sir . . . nakalimutan mo. ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 04, 2008 at 09:25 AM
Naku, nakaka-inggit nga kayong may mga hawak ng SanMig Light at wine, ako PEPSI, (para kay JazzyJake ;D ), diresto office kasi ako after that. :'(
sa laki nung house and HT Room nahirapan pa si bro froot na mahanap kung saan nakalagay yung Pepsi Maxx ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 04, 2008 at 09:31 AM
Ngayon lang ako nakakita ng CR na may ref ;D ibang klase talaga Palasyo ni Don Pedro este ni Sir Mark pala ;D
Nice meeting you all. . ;)
O eto, tripleX . . . si bro kefq dumadayo pa ng burgos. :D member din hahaha
Si kefq sir . . . nakalimutan mo. ;D
self confession ni brader dex yan ah! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 07, 2008 at 12:11 PM
binibisita ko lang po ang inyong theater :D nakaka miss eh ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 12:15 PM
ninong Mark gud afternoon po :D
binibisita ko lang po ang inyong theater :D nakaka miss eh ;D
Hi Joel! Medyo busy ngayon .. sa kakapanood ng sine .. dami at dumadami. ;D ;D
Isip rin ako ng agenda sa mga darating na EB kay bro Revskie and Striker. Baka postpone muna ang Sta Rosa.
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 07, 2008 at 12:19 PM
Hi Joel! Medyo busy ngayon .. sa kakapanood ng sine .. dami at dumadami. ;D ;D
Isip rin ako ng agenda sa mga darating na EB kay bro Revskie and Striker. Baka postpone muna ang Sta Rosa.
ok postpone din ang V.L ko :D
nag re relax pala kayo sa panunuod :D dami pa nga pala hindi pa napapanuod ;D
Post by: alvinh on Oct 07, 2008 at 01:20 PM
When will the countdown of unwatched movies begin? ;D ;D
By the way, how many concert dvds, hdvd, bds do you have? Kahit PM na lang.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 01:41 PM
@Sir Mark
When will the countdown of unwatched movies begin? ;D ;D
By the way, how many concert dvds, hdvd, bds do you have? Kahit PM na lang.
I have 1520 discs, including around 270 concerts. Haven't watched 258 "discs." Problem is that aside from these 258, I still have many movies na walang "discs." Kaya hindi nababawasan ang 258 unwatched. Hay naku ... ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 07, 2008 at 01:44 PM
I have 1520 discs, including around 270 concerts. Haven't watched 258 "discs." Problem is that aside from these 258, I still have many movies na walang "discs." Kaya hindi nababawasan ang 258 unwatched. Hay naku ... ;D ;D
tsk tsk tsk! sakit pala ng ulo yang N*T na yan! di na ako bibili niyan sir Mark! ahihihihi! ;D
Post by: JAQY888 on Oct 07, 2008 at 01:47 PM
I have 1520 discs, including around 270 concerts. Haven't watched 258 "discs." Problem is that aside from these 258, I still have many movies na walang "discs." Kaya hindi nababawasan ang 258 unwatched. Hay naku ... ;D ;D
wow :o :o :o .... andami ng inyong collection, bro. Mark .... ;D
bukod doon, malamang napuno na ang hard-drive ninyo ng panibagong mga pelikula kaya tuloy-tuloy na naman ang ligaya ..... :D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 07, 2008 at 02:08 PM
tsk tsk tsk! sakit pala ng ulo yang N*T na yan! di na ako bibili niyan sir Mark! ahihihihi! ;D
honga! sakit pala ng ulo!
di na rin ako bibili nyan! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: alvinh on Oct 07, 2008 at 02:49 PM
I have 1520 discs, including around 270 concerts. Haven't watched 258 "discs." Problem is that aside from these 258, I still have many movies na walang "discs." Kaya hindi nababawasan ang 258 unwatched. Hay naku ... ;D ;D
Interested to see some of those concerts. Someday...hehehehe. ;D
Ako na ang bahala sa mga tiga Sta Rosa..ayaw nyo ng N*T ha? ;D ;D ;D
Sumbong ko kayo kay Debbie.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 02:54 PM
tsk tsk tsk! sakit pala ng ulo yang N*T na yan! di na ako bibili niyan sir Mark! ahihihihi! ;D
honga! sakit pala ng ulo!
di na rin ako bibili nyan! ;D ;D ;D
Langya kayo! ;D
Kawawa nga ako. Imbes na kumokonti ang backlog, dumadami. :( :(
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 02:58 PM
wow :o :o :o .... andami ng inyong collection, bro. Mark .... ;D
bukod doon, malamang napuno na ang hard-drive ninyo ng panibagong mga pelikula kaya tuloy-tuloy na naman ang ligaya ..... :D
Ikaw ha ... bad ka ... ingat ka sa sinasabi mo. Bad words yung ha**-d*ive. Baka ma-ban ka! Ako nga, d ko binabanggit yun! ;D
Lagi kasi advice ng abogado, never admit, always deny. Kahit nahuli kang nakapatong na, sabihin mo lang na nadulas ka! Tama ba, panyero? ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:01 PM
Interested to see some of those concerts. Someday...hehehehe. ;D
Sure! You have to experience it. Iba talaga listening to a concert AND watching the performers at the same time on a big screen with a good pj in an acoustically-treated room ... IBang sensory experience .. Matutulala ka .. Sori ha, at ginugulo lang kita ng ibang kulam! ;D ;D
Post by: alvinh on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Ikaw ha ... bad ka ... ingat ka sa sinasabi mo. Bad words yung ha**-d*ive. Baka ma-ban ka! Ako nga, d ko binabanggit yun! ;D
Lagi kasi advice ng abogado, never admit, always deny. Kahit nahuli kang nakapatong na, sabihin mo lang na nadulas ka! Tama ba, panyero? ;D ;D
hahahahaha. How true...mukhang speaking from experience 'to ah...puede naman cguro if you want to copy your own disc to....say, your ipod?
Post by: ESi on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:11 PM
Isip rin ako ng agenda sa mga darating na EB kay bro Revskie and Striker. Baka postpone muna ang Sta Rosa.
Suggestion lang sir mark. I have always wondered if an film buff like most of us in the hobby would readily distinguish a 720p vs 1080p image. Granting that the native 720p PJ and flat panels are fast depreciating and most of the ;) are 720p, is it really discernable between the 2 images. This could be one of the tests in the next EB. A big screen would be a good start to gauge these two, since I have read somewhere that Hi Def PQ is evident starting on a 50 inch screen and negligible anywhere below that size. Just my 2 cents. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:41 PM
Suggestion lang sir mark. I have always wondered if an film buff like most of us in the hobby would readily distinguish a 720p vs 1080p image. Granting that the native 720p PJ and flat panels are fast depreciating and most of the ;) are 720p, is it really discernable between the 2 images. This could be one of the tests in the next EB. A big screen would be a good start to gauge these two, since I have read somewhere that Hi Def PQ is evident starting on a 50 inch screen and negligible anywhere below that size. Just my 2 cents. ;)
Screen size and distance from screen are inter-related. Because of this, it's very hard to do this test because everyone will need to be seated the same distance from the screen. Baka row 2 lang lahat. Wala na row 4 para sa mga magugulo (maybe that's also the positive side? ;D ;D). Practically speaking, it will be very difficult to do this test.
We need to think of something else. Actually, iniisip ko pa rin is a lecture by an expert on audio and video calibration. I suspect a lot of people will find this interesting and useful.
Post by: ricky on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:46 PM
Screen size and distance from screen are inter-related. Because of this, it's very hard to do this test because everyone will need to be seated the same distance from the screen. Baka row 2 lang lahat. Wala na row 4 para sa mga magugulo (maybe that's also the positive side? ;D ;D). Practically speaking, it will be very difficult to do this test.
We need to think of something else. Actually, iniisip ko pa rin is a lecture by an expert on audio and video calibration. I suspect a lot of people will find this interesting and useful.
;) Sir pero mas ok pag ikaw na magcalibrate for us para hindi na kami makikinig ;) :)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:52 PM
Langya kayo! ;D
Kawawa nga ako. Imbes na kumokonti ang backlog, dumadami. :( :(
naku! happy problem yan! ibig sabihin....
di nauubusan ng panonoorin! :D
;) Sir pero mas ok pag ikaw na magcalibrate for us para hindi na kami makikinig ;) :)
this is more convinient! (para sa amin!) ;D
Post by: alvinh on Oct 07, 2008 at 03:59 PM
Sure! You have to experience it. Iba talaga listening to a concert AND watching the performers at the same time on a big screen with a good pj in an acoustically-treated room ... IBang sensory experience .. Matutulala ka .. Sori ha, at ginugulo lang kita ng ibang kulam! ;D ;D
No need for kulam on this Sir Mark. Sold na ako sa PJ talaga for "movie theater experience at home". Naka line-up for next year! hehehe. ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 07, 2008 at 04:02 PM
No need for kulam on this Sir Mark. Sold na ako sa PJ talaga for "movie theater experience at home". Naka line-up for next year! hehehe. ;D
abah!
conflicting isteytment ah! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: alvinh on Oct 07, 2008 at 05:32 PM
abah!
conflicting isteytment ah! ;D ;D ;D
hehehe. brader jim, puede namang december of next year di ba?
tanggal muna PJ for now..pero next year ayos kang PJ ka! ;D
Post by: frootloops on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Post by: iiinas on Oct 07, 2008 at 09:43 PM
Pwede ba mag request? Kung pwede sana may usherette sa next EB. ::)
the best suggestion sir froot! ;D
Post by: ESi on Oct 07, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Pwede ba mag request? Kung pwede sana may usherette sa next EB. ::)
Debbie will do ::) ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 07, 2008 at 10:15 PM
Debbie will do ::) ;D
NICE!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2008 at 10:44 PM
Debbie will do ::) ;D
D pwede. 8 months na sya. Tapos may BL. ;D ;D
Post by: JAQY888 on Oct 08, 2008 at 04:14 AM
Ikaw ha ... bad ka ... ingat ka sa sinasabi mo. Bad words yung ha**-d*ive. Baka ma-ban ka! Ako nga, d ko binabanggit yun! ;D
Lagi kasi advice ng abogado, never admit, always deny. Kahit nahuli kang nakapatong na, sabihin mo lang na nadulas ka! Tama ba, panyero? ;D ;D
hahahahaha ...... tama, tama nga !!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 08, 2008 at 08:54 AM
Debbie will do ::) ;D
brader Esi,
di pwede..... Seloso ako eh............... ;D
D pwede. 8 months na sya. Tapos may BL. ;D ;D
lapit na Maternity Leave....
tsk! payagan kaya ako dito ng.... Paternity Leave?
tapos......
Honeymoon Leave uli? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 08, 2008 at 09:50 AM
brader Esi,
di pwede..... Seloso ako eh............... ;D
lapit na Maternity Leave....
tsk! payagan kaya ako dito ng.... Paternity Leave?
tapos......
Honeymoon Leave uli? ;D ;D ;D
Hahaha! Okay! Agreed! Sa yo na si Debbie! ;D
Ang next EB is Xmas EB na!! Si Santa HHH ang starring. ;D ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 08, 2008 at 10:06 AM
Hahaha! Okay! Agreed! Sa yo na si Debbie! ;D
Ang next EB is Xmas EB na!! Si Santa HHH ang starring. ;D ;D
Yahoooooo ;D ;D ;D ;D
ang baet baet talaga ni santa jess ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 08, 2008 at 10:41 AM
Hahaha! Okay! Agreed! Sa yo na si Debbie! ;D
Ang next EB is Xmas EB na!! Si Santa HHH ang starring. ;D ;D
yahoo!!!
ang saya-saya ng Xmas ko nyan!
may Debbie na...
may xmas gift pa from HHH !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: kefq on Oct 08, 2008 at 05:34 PM
Nice meeting you too Sir,
Don't forget to mention yun laman ng ref........Cold, cold San Mig Light!!!
hehe October fest talaga pag nagpa EB si Mark ;D
Post by: kefq on Oct 08, 2008 at 05:38 PM
self confession ni brader dex yan ah! ;D ;D ;D
Hangang silip lang sa aquarium brader jim ;D . . just checking the fishes :D
Post by: docelmo on Oct 08, 2008 at 06:05 PM
I just talked to Richie See of eHome. I had previously met Richie at their store and we spent a lot of time chatting about NMT's. He has been actively working with all the various NMT's since March of this year. He has done a lot of experimentation. Basically, I think it would be safe to say that he is one of the most knowledgeable persons in the country, when it comes to NMT's. He is also a very nice guy.
He is willing to participate in the EB, not to sell but to educate everyone on NMT's. He will set-up a network, do a Powerpoint, explain basic stuff like the various kinds of movie files, how to download, his vision of the future with a networked home, etc. Obviously, may Q&A session din.
What do you guys think? Will this be a good agenda for the EB? Of course, kasama na rin sa EB ang usual stuff - watching reference clips, eating, drinking, chatting, bolahan, kodakan, testing of sound absorbers ... We can also show differences between 480p, 720p and 1080p pero wala muna siguro blind test.
Sir mark...sana makasama na ako dito....hehehe very tempting
to take the NMT plunge kasi meron na din akong mkv files...
;D
Post by: eksi on Oct 10, 2008 at 06:41 PM
Hahaha! Okay! Agreed! Sa yo na si Debbie! ;D
Ang next EB is Xmas EB na!! Si Santa HHH ang starring. ;D ;D
ser mark, sana dito makasama na 'ko... hindi ko pa kasi nakikita si Santa in person :D
Actually, iniisip ko pa rin is a lecture by an expert on audio and video calibration. I suspect a lot of people will find this interesting and useful.
ai ai ser :)
Ikaw ha ... bad ka ... ingat ka sa sinasabi mo. Bad words yung ha**-d*ive. Baka ma-ban ka! Ako nga, d ko binabanggit yun! ;D
naku ingat ingat pala anu ser?
Post by: Marl☆1 on Oct 10, 2008 at 07:14 PM
Ikaw ha ... bad ka ... ingat ka sa sinasabi mo. Bad words yung ha**-d*ive. Baka ma-ban ka! Ako nga, d ko binabanggit yun! ;D
Agree with boss streetsmart. Kaya nga 'streetsmart;' better heed his warning - very sound advice. ;)
Everybody's got the lowdown on it and we all know the contacts to pursue this endeavor... now, best we tone down the NMT discussions already - nagiging pasensyoso lang siguro ang mga mods... ;) Thanks bros!
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 11, 2008 at 12:31 AM
ser mark, sana dito makasama na 'ko... hindi ko pa kasi nakikita si Santa in person :D
Hahaha! Kung matuloy ang Xmas EB, promise makikita mo si Santa! ;D ;D
Post by: audiojunkie on Oct 12, 2008 at 07:06 PM
Yahoooooo ;D ;D ;D ;D
ang baet baet talaga ni santa jess ;D
nag-changed name na pala si Santa... ;D ah! ito pala yong santa namimigay ng A/V gears... :D :D :D
kahit na yong pinaglumaan pwede na sa akin... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 12, 2008 at 07:13 PM
nag-change name na pala si Santa... ;D ah! ito pala yong santa namimigay ang A/V gears... :D :D :D
kahit na yong pinaglumaan pwede na sa akin... ;D ;D ;D
hehehe oo nga sir aj, haba pila nyan kung sakali.... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Munskie on Nov 22, 2008 at 10:41 PM
Thanks for being a gracious host to our community's Christmas EB. Everyone had fun!!! Wala ako masabi sa HT mo....simply fabulous and top notch equipment and calibration!!!
Sa mga nag-attend,
THanks guys!!!! It was a pleasure meeting all of you!! ;)
Medyo pagod na ako.....bukas ko na ipopost yung incriminating evidence featuring "JJ" and Triple D!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 22, 2008 at 10:44 PM
pasensya na pero iba talaga ang nagagawa ng number 1!!! hehehehe!
sa uulitin!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 22, 2008 at 10:45 PM
Mark,
Thanks for being a gracious host to our community's Christmas EB. Everyone had fun!!! Wala ako masabi sa HT mo....simply fabulous and top notch equipment and calibration!!!
Sa mga nag-attend,
THanks guys!!!! It was a pleasure meeting all of you!! ;)
Medyo pagod na ako.....bukas ko na ipopost yung incriminating evidence featuring "JJ" and Triple D!!!! ;D ;D ;D
brader marvin! huwag ka magkamaling magpost ng malalaswa! malilintikan tayo kay firewired niyan! kilala na niya tayong lahat! bwahahahaha!
Post by: Munskie on Nov 22, 2008 at 10:47 PM
brader marvin! huwag ka magkamaling magpost ng malalaswa! malilintikan tayo kay firewired niyan! kilala na niya tayong lahat! bwahahahaha!
Ill be gentle.... ;D ;D ;D Bwahahahaha ;D ;D ;D
Oh yes.....twas nice seeing sir Firewired!!! Thanks for coming sir!!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 22, 2008 at 10:48 PM
Ill be gentle.... ;D ;D ;D Bwahahahaha ;D ;D ;D
Oh yes.....twas nice seeing sir Firewired!!! Thanks for coming sir!!
anak ng kamote oo! hahahaha!
Post by: blackd70s on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:05 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:09 PM
sir mark! thanks for the invite! ganda ng sinehan mo! ayaw maniwala ni jake na ikaw ang sumulat ng akina na yang gift ko sa oto nya, di ba tansan ang ginamit mo don? hahahahaha! ;D
bwiset ka brader raul! lintek lang ang walang ganti! hehehe!
+100 ako sa sinehan! tindi talaga...di mo inabot yung excerpt ng "master and commander", pare koy ibang klase yung digms! SUPER lang ang masasabi ko!
Post by: Munskie on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:22 PM
Di pa kasi uminit puwit ko sa EB....pinainom na ako nito!!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3050483784_a31b8f2e85.jpg?v=0)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:23 PM
Putris...disaster mga pics.......naka auto ISO pala ako....ISO 3200 lahat!!!!
Di pa kasi uminit puwit ko sa EB....pinainom na ako nito!!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3176/3050483784_a31b8f2e85.jpg?v=0)
patay na! ikaw pala tumira niyang kabayo eh! sayang naman!
Post by: Munskie on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:33 PM
patay na! ikaw pala tumira niyang kabayo eh! sayang naman!
Bitin nga ako.......di sa RH ah......ke triple D!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: blackd70s on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:35 PM
Post by: Munskie on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:48 PM
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Si Hatorni...iba ang ngiti.... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Munskie on Nov 22, 2008 at 11:50 PM
oist picture ko yan ah! wala nga lang ulo! hahahaha!
Eto Bro....
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3291/3049679965_3610418578.jpg?v=0)
Post by: blackd70s on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:11 AM
salamat ulit sir!
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Post by: Munskie on Nov 23, 2008 at 12:29 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/3050521694_76054eddb8.jpg?v=0)
Welcome Address.........
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/3050521630_6253b51086.jpg?v=0)
Normal pa si Mark dito........abangan ang ibang Pics!!!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/3050519236_4205efc655.jpg?v=0)
Gawa ni Marl1 to.....Galeng!!!!!
Class Picture!!!!!
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3181/3049687113_8a0470bfbc.jpg?v=1227370777)
Wala ako........asan na pics Hatorni!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: blackie on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:03 AM
Thank you and Congratulations again on making this such a succesful event. Cheers and more power!
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Cannot wait till the next one :D
Blackie
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:40 AM
Thank you also for having us over...to be able to get together and have fun! ;D
Your hospitality, generosity and kindness are greatly appreciated! ;D
Maraming maraming salamat po! ;) Can't wait for the next EB! :P
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:33 AM
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/xmaseba.jpg)(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/xmasebb.jpg)
Sitting (left to right): Deo, Blackd70s, Streetsmart, Firewired, Juancho
Standing (left to right): Iiinas, Jay2, Gren, Moks007, Stickfighter, Alvinthx2, Xxxyzledge, Blackie, Zedric, Ryn0128, Saxman, Jazzy Jake, Gunblade977, Mike C, Nerveblocker, Vtec3, Threadlock, Dts-HD, Jojitv
brader jess paki post yung mas kumpleto...wawa naman brader munskie...
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:27 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:38 AM
1. Alvinh - The Chairman of the organizing committee and actually the #1 mangkukulam for this Xmas EB. Without him, this would not have happened. He worked so hard for it and even lent his PA system. Unfortunately, as we all know, he had to stay in the hospital with his wife during the EB. Let's all pray for Alvin's wife please. And pasalamat tayo lahat kay Alvin for all the work he did for the EB.
2. Firewired - We were very honored that he joined us. Finally, we met the man who OWNS this site and who graciously allows us to use it. As I said during the EB, because of Pinoydvd, we are richer in friends and HT knowledge but of course, we are also much poorer! HAHAHA!
3. Marl_1 - Unfortunately, he could not make it to the EB but he left traces of himself with his beautifully designed banner! Ang galing! Salamat!!
4. All the other committee members - Jazzy Jake, triple-H Hatorney Hakot Hapgreyd Jaqy888, triple-I iiinas, triple-D XXXyzledge and yung nag-iisang mabait sa kanila, si Juancho.
5. All those that gave raffle prizes especially Gren of eHome who gave a 640 GB hard drive, Waxx who contributed a BD! and Ashley of Audible Illusions who contributed P1000. As you all know, Gren is largely responsible for the proliferation of NMT's in Pinoydvd! Ashley has supplied my Paradigm subwoofers and surrounds and they are great! Waxx, of course is the Pinoydvd Idol!
Salamat uli to all that attended. Mabuhay ang Pinoydvd! Merry X'mas sa lahat! :) :)
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:44 AM
Nawala amats namin ni blackie kaka akyat baba sa bahay nyo. Sobrang Bigat! ;D cant wait to make this babies sing! ;D
Thank you for inviting me and hosting the Christmas Party! ;D salamat din kina firewired, alvinh, Marl1 and the committee. Ang saya-saya!
xs: sir anong model ba ng celestion yun? hanap ako manual eh... ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:46 AM
Sir Mark! you dont only have a golden ears and a golden heart but also a golden hand! thanks you for picking up my name in the raffle! ;D
Nawala amats namin ni blackie kaka akyat baba sa bahay nyo. Sobrang Bigat! ;D cant wait to make this babies sing! ;D
Thank you for inviting me and hosting the Christmas Party! ;D
xs: sir anong model ba ng celestion yun? hanap ako manual eh... ;)
Hehe! Twas my pleasure to host such a gracious group of people!
Celestion 300 sya. Excellent for audio. Enjoy!
Post by: iiinas on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:56 AM
Seryoso!!! Malayo lahat ang tingin!!! Ano pinapanood nyo!!??
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3294/3049681009_71e81b5a3a.jpg?v=0)
Si Hatorni...iba ang ngiti.... ;D ;D ;D
si sir blackie, parang nanalo na ng speakers yung mukha, hindi pa naman nag raffle ah! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:59 AM
Thanks to all you guys that attended the EB. Ang saya naman nating lahat. But special thanks goes to:
1. Alvinh - The Chairman of the organizing committee and actually the #1 mangkukulam for this Xmas EB. Without him, this would not have happened. He worked so hard for it and even lent his PA system. Unfortunately, as we all know, he had to stay in the hospital with his wife during the EB. Let's all pray for Alvin's wife please. And pasalamat tayo lahat kay Alvin for all the work he did for the EB.
2. Firewired - We were very honored that he joined us. Finally, we met the man who OWNS this site and who graciously allows us to use it. As I said during the EB, because of Pinoydvd, we are richer in friends and HT knowledge but of course, we are also much poorer! HAHAHA!
3. Marl_1 - Unfortunately, he could not make it to the EB but he left traces of himself with his beautifully designed banner! Ang galing! Salamat!!
4. All the other committee members - Jazzy Jake, triple-H Hatorney Hakot Hapgreyd Jaqy888, triple-I iiinas, triple-D XXXyzledge and yung nag-iisang mabait sa kanila, si Juancho.
5. All those that gave raffle prizes especially Gren of eHome who gave a 640 GB hard drive, Waxx who contributed a BD! and Ashley of Audible Illusions who contributed P1000. As you all know, Gren is largely responsible for the proliferation of NMT's in Pinoydvd! Ashley has supplied my Paradigm subwoofers and surrounds and they are great! Waxx, of course is the Pinoydvd Idol!
Salamat uli to all that attended. Mabuhay ang Pinoydvd! Merry X'mas sa lahat! :) :)
salamat din sir mark for allowing us to use your place again for this great eb. ice to meet new face and of course the old ones. MASAYA!
Post by: iiinas on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:35 AM
ito na yung link sa irobot. para automated na pag linis ng ht after sa mga ebs.
http://store.irobot.com/home/index.jsp (http://store.irobot.com/home/index.jsp)
you can buy it through amazon or sa true value dito sa pinas! ibang kulam ito sir mark! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Munskie on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:37 AM
Konti ng remote no?? ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:43 AM
sir mark,
ito na yung link sa irobot. para automated na pag linis ng ht after sa mga ebs.
http://store.irobot.com/home/index.jsp (http://store.irobot.com/home/index.jsp)
you can buy it through amazon or sa true value dito sa pinas! ibang kulam ito sir mark! ;D ;D ;D
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ayos to! tindi ng kulam ang aga! ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 23, 2008 at 08:47 AM
Thank you sir Mark for again, hosting the EB! (sa uulitin uli..... pwede next month uli?) ;D ;D ;D
the place was cozy...
the HT gears was excellent...
the food, drinks & booze was abundant.......
the host was very generous! (wwooohooooo! celestion!!!)
the camaraderie was at its peak!!!
congrats to everybody who attended!
Post by: iiinas on Nov 23, 2008 at 09:06 AM
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ayos to! tindi ng kulam ang aga! ;D
hehehe, laki kasi ht ni sir mark! para automated narin ang linisan ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 23, 2008 at 09:07 AM
Post by: Munskie on Nov 23, 2008 at 10:39 AM
Dito na humataw si Mark!!!
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Only You!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Marl☆1 on Nov 23, 2008 at 11:35 AM
salamat ulit sir!
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Congrats Mark for graciously hosting another mega-successful EB! Sayang talaga wasn't able to attend but seein' the glow in the faces of the pdvd boys, mukhang talagang nagka-siyahan ng husto!
Looking forward to more sir! ;)
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 23, 2008 at 01:49 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:12 PM
parang godfather ang dating .. :D
thanks for the invite mga bro .. next time 100% ill be there maski dec 25 pa or jan 1 :D :D
when is the next EB? :D
Post by: JAQY888 on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:24 PM
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Post by: blackie on Nov 23, 2008 at 02:31 PM
si sir blackie, parang nanalo na ng speakers yung mukha, hindi pa naman nag raffle ah! ;D ;D ;D
Sir Iiinas,
Pareho lang kami ni Attorney di nakafocus dun sa palabas ;D
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 23, 2008 at 03:58 PM
Post by: JAQY888 on Nov 23, 2008 at 04:00 PM
Sir Mark thank you for hosting the Christmas EB. Great fun. The red wine was indeed really good. May I know what brand is that? I wanna buy one, sarap with steak hehe. Thanks
bro. Raymund, tuwang-tuwa kayo dito ni brader Von sa pix a. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2008 at 04:46 PM
Sir Mark thank you for hosting the Christmas EB. Great fun. The red wine was indeed really good. May I know what brand is that? I wanna buy one, sarap with steak hehe. Thanks
Cape Gold. Merlot. South African brand. P285 per bottle sa Ram's. :)
Post by: alvinh on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:02 PM
Kung merong mga na-miss sa program, babawi na lang ako next time...we'll make it double the excitement! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Congratulations Sir Mark for what appears to be an all-out Christmas fun EB!
Kung merong mga na-miss sa program, babawi na lang ako next time...we'll make it double the excitement! :D
Ang saya sobra, Alvin. But it would have been double the fun if you had been around. Next time! :) :)
Post by: JAQY888 on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:06 PM
Congratulations Sir Mark for what appears to be an all-out Christmas fun EB!
Kung merong mga na-miss sa program, babawi na lang ako next time...we'll make it double the excitement! :D
Yahoooo .... ayush yan brader Alvs.
SMS na lang if you need help ... the "kulam boys" will be there to assist you !!! ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:32 PM
sorry to hear about what happened . . . next time bro.
@streetsmart
Many thanks sir Mark for indulging your HT once again and for inviting me over. :)
Congrats sa mga grand prize winners: ryan & threadlock
Post by: alvinh on Nov 23, 2008 at 05:47 PM
Yahoooo .... ayush yan brader Alvs.
SMS na lang if you need help ... the "kulam boys" will be there to assist you !!! ;D
@alvinh
sorry to hear about what happened . . . next time bro.
@streetsmart
Many thanks sir Mark for indulging your HT once again and for inviting me over. :)
Congrats sa mga grand prize winners: ryan & threadlock
Thanks bros...no worries. With you guys around, siguradong tuloy ang hapgreyds in life. ;D
Post by: docelmo on Nov 23, 2008 at 06:04 PM
WAAHHH!!! eto ang hirap sa malayo!!!
na mimiss ang ganito kasayang EB!!!
Congrats to everyone....looks like everybody had a Blast!!!
;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:04 PM
Yahoooo .... ayush yan brader Alvs.
SMS na lang if you need help ... the "kulam boys" will be there to assist you !!! ;D
+100 dito alvs! am a call away! ;)
Post by: iiinas on Nov 23, 2008 at 07:51 PM
Ang saya sobra, Alvin. But it would have been double the fun if you had been around. Next time! :) :)
+100 ito brader alvin. next time! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: jojitv on Nov 24, 2008 at 07:42 AM
Post by: Philjonc on Nov 24, 2008 at 07:45 AM
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wag nyo naman pagalitan anak nyo... :'( ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 24, 2008 at 08:42 AM
wag nyo naman pagalitan anak nyo... :'( ;D ;D
before the party yang mga pix...
may premonition na cguro si sir mark na may gagawin sa kanya
si jake.... kaya maaga palang ... pinapagalitan na... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: juanch on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:20 AM
"Thanks streetsmart for hosting this mighty fine EB.
It's already my 3rd time in Mark's HT and it never fails to impress me. For sure my dedicated HT will come.
I already have SARS coursing through my veins."
It was also my pleasure to be part of the welcoming & singil committee ;D
Maraming salamat
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:51 AM
before the party yang mga pix...
may premonition na cguro si sir mark na may gagawin sa kanya
si jake.... kaya maaga palang ... pinapagalitan na... ;D ;D ;D
Hahaha! Ang galing ng mga pix! Wawa naman si Jake. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:52 AM
I already said this in the Christmas EB thread.
"Thanks streetsmart for hosting this mighty fine EB.
It's already my 3rd time in Mark's HT and it never fails to impress me. For sure my dedicated HT will come.
I already have SARS coursing through my veins."
It was also my pleasure to be part of the welcoming & singil committee ;D
Maraming salamat
Thanks too, Juancho, for all your help! Pero stay mabait, ha!!! Wag ka magpahawa sa mga masasamang damo dito sa Pinoydvd! Hahahaha!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 24, 2008 at 09:58 AM
bro. Raymund, tuwang-tuwa kayo dito ni brader Von sa pix a. ;D ;D ;D
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hehe..Atty we are probably watching Debbie or Scarface at that time ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 24, 2008 at 10:24 AM
hehe..Atty we are probably watching Debbie or Scarface at that time ;D ;D ;D
mas malamang debbie yan!
iba nag mga ngisi ninyo ni vonn eh! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 24, 2008 at 03:44 PM
mas malamang debbie yan!
iba nag mga ngisi ninyo ni vonn eh! ;D ;D ;D
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Half body shot lang ang kuha! Malamang walang mga salawal mga yan!!! ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 24, 2008 at 07:38 PM
if my memory serves me right...this was the time we were discussing where to place the streamer...tapos sabi namin yung kay jas na lang ang ilagay sa labas...sabi ni sir mark - "buksan nga natin?" ...pag bukas...nagkatinginan..."langya di to pwede sa labas!" bwahahahaha!
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Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 24, 2008 at 07:40 PM
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Half body shot lang ang kuha! Malamang walang mga salawal mga yan!!! ;D
bwahahahaha!
Post by: blackd70s on Nov 24, 2008 at 07:47 PM
hehe..Atty we are probably watching Debbie or Scarface at that time ;D ;D ;D
not yet bro! took these pics when we were having the name that tune game. :D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 25, 2008 at 09:31 AM
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Half body shot lang ang kuha! Malamang walang mga salawal mga yan!!! ;D
buwahahahaha!
nice one doc! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: deo on Nov 25, 2008 at 04:08 PM
musta nga pala ang southborder na cd? ;D mukang ok yan patugtugin with your two giant subwoofers..when your alone, itodo mo ung volume! i bet panay ang sayaw mo. ;D;D;D
by the way sir mark, na sa collection mo pala ang wishlist ko..ung bd ni john legend..ahehehe!! ;D pag sawa ka na sabihin mo lang sakin! Advance merry xmas! Regards!
Post by: iiinas on Nov 25, 2008 at 08:24 PM
sir, di ko gano na appreciate ung HT mo, until i went to visit. Sana maka ulit. :) baka pde mag rent sa isa sa mga rooms jan para sa mini theater ko :P para kung may calibration, jan ko na lang gagawin sa yo! ;D;D;D;D
musta nga pala ang southborder na cd? ;D mukang ok yan patugtugin with your two giant subwoofers..when your alone, itodo mo ung volume! i bet panay ang sayaw mo. ;D;D;D
by the way sir mark, na sa collection mo pala ang wishlist ko..ung bd ni john legend..ahehehe!! ;D pag sawa ka na sabihin mo lang sakin! Advance merry xmas! Regards!
ayos sir deo, simpleng hirit kay sir mark pero ROCK!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 26, 2008 at 10:22 AM
by the way sir mark, na sa collection mo pala ang wishlist ko..ung bd ni john legend..ahehehe!! ;D pag sawa ka na sabihin mo lang sakin! Advance merry xmas! Regards!
brader...
anything is possible..... ITS CHRISTMAS!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: deo on Nov 26, 2008 at 11:51 AM
brader...
anything is possible..... ITS CHRISTMAS!!!! ;D ;D ;D
;D;D;D;D;D boss mark, happy new year! :P
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM
sir, di ko gano na appreciate ung HT mo, until i went to visit. Sana maka ulit. :) baka pde mag rent sa isa sa mga rooms jan para sa mini theater ko :P para kung may calibration, jan ko na lang gagawin sa yo! ;D;D;D;D
musta nga pala ang southborder na cd? ;D mukang ok yan patugtugin with your two giant subwoofers..when your alone, itodo mo ung volume! i bet panay ang sayaw mo. ;D;D;D
by the way sir mark, na sa collection mo pala ang wishlist ko..ung bd ni john legend..ahehehe!! ;D pag sawa ka na sabihin mo lang sakin! Advance merry xmas! Regards!
brader...
anything is possible..... ITS CHRISTMAS!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Ang hirap talaga dito sa Pinoydvd ... You don't know who your friends are!!! Si Jaqy888 ang Santa Claus! Mataba sya sa akin, ano! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Nov 26, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Ang hirap talaga dito sa Pinoydvd ... You don't know who your friends are!!! Si Jaqy888 ang Santa Claus! Mataba sya sa akin, ano! ;D ;D ;D
hwehwehwe! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2008 at 01:51 PM
Next time ko na post mas mahaba explanation. :)
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Post by: JAQY888 on Nov 26, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Ganda bagong screen ko. Maliit kasi ang dati. 119" lang. Ito 133" na. Kelangan lang lagyan ng black cloth ang housing.
Next time ko na post mas mahaba explanation. :)
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huwow, na deliver na pala kagad ang 133" screen !!!!!
mas malaki na si DDD ngayon !!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Congratz, bro. Mark !!! ;)
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hindi pa ako nakakabili - nagpalit na ng mas malaki! maganda siguro ulit panoorin diyan yung ... yung ... yung ... ;D
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 26, 2008 at 02:00 PM
congrats sir Mark!! ang laki ng screen 133" sarap ulit panuorin mga titles jan ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2008 at 02:14 PM
huwow, na deliver na pala kagad ang 133" screen !!!!!
mas malaki na si DDD ngayon !!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Congratz, bro. Mark !!! ;)
Actually, matagal ko na plano ito. D nyo lang napapansin pero may slight defect ang lumang screen. Kaya ko pinalitan.
Na-deliver sya few days before the EB pero d ko kinabit agad kasi magulo talaga. Gawa ng bagong bracket (DIY) tapos atras ang pj by 18". After the EB, pinakabit ko na. Maganda nga sya. 25% more viewing area.
Mas malaki nga si DDD. Na-test ko na. At maganda pa rin resolution. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: jojitv on Nov 26, 2008 at 02:15 PM
Post by: JAQY888 on Nov 26, 2008 at 02:24 PM
Actually, matagal ko na plano ito. D nyo lang napapansin pero may slight defect ang lumang screen. Kaya ko pinalitan.
Na-deliver sya few days before the EB pero d ko kinabit agad kasi magulo talaga. Gawa ng bagong bracket (DIY) tapos atras ang pj by 18". After the EB, pinakabit ko na. Maganda nga sya. 25% more viewing area.
Mas malaki nga si DDD. Na-test ko na. At maganda pa rin resolution. ;D ;D ;D
GREAT !!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
hmmm, 'di nga namin napansin kung may defect yung lumang screen a.
nakatutok malamang sa DDD e. hehehe.
mukhang may isa pang EB before the year end .... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ricky on Nov 26, 2008 at 03:44 PM
Post by: alvinh on Nov 26, 2008 at 03:47 PM
Ganda bagong screen ko. Maliit kasi ang dati. 119" lang. Ito 133" na. Kelangan lang lagyan ng black cloth ang housing.
Next time ko na post mas mahaba explanation. :)
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hehehe. Kaya pala balita kaagad si Jun ko...sabi ba naman e...ang laki na ng screen ni Sir Mark, kaya lang kita yung housing sa taas. ahihihihihi!
Yung pinagpalitan nyan baka puede kay Jake...heheheheh. kaya lang, mukhang sobrang laki laki nung 119". dehins puede pala.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 26, 2008 at 03:51 PM
Ganda bagong screen ko. Maliit kasi ang dati. 119" lang. Ito 133" na. Kelangan lang lagyan ng black cloth ang housing.
Next time ko na post mas mahaba explanation. :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/newscreen.jpg)
wow!
new screen!
bigger & better!!! happy na naman si brader mark! ;D
Post by: mike c on Nov 26, 2008 at 04:26 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 27, 2008 at 07:47 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 27, 2008 at 08:37 PM
Ganda bagong screen ko. Maliit kasi ang dati. 119" lang. Ito 133" na. Kelangan lang lagyan ng black cloth ang housing.
Next time ko na post mas mahaba explanation. :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/newscreen.jpg)
HuWOW! nice sir mark! EB na bulit! :o :o :o :o
Post by: iiinas on Nov 27, 2008 at 10:04 PM
Ganda bagong screen ko. Maliit kasi ang dati. 119" lang. Ito 133" na. Kelangan lang lagyan ng black cloth ang housing.
Next time ko na post mas mahaba explanation. :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/newscreen.jpg)
huwaw!!! eto na 133" gigantic!!!
congrats sir mark! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2008 at 08:09 AM
133 inches!!!! Kay sir Mark ang pinakamalaki!!!! We're not worthy..... ;D (btw, screen ang pinag-uusapan ah...baka anong isipin nyo)
Hahaha!!! ;D ;D
Actually, ernie has exactly the same screen. 133". And the screen of Jay2 has a WIDTH of 144" kaya more than 150" sya sa diagonal.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 28, 2008 at 08:32 AM
133 inches!!!! Kay sir Mark ang pinakamalaki!!!! We're not worthy..... ;D (btw, screen ang pinag-uusapan ah...baka anong isipin nyo)
buti na yung malinaw doc! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: docelmo on Nov 28, 2008 at 09:51 AM
HUWAW!!! anlaki talaga sir mark....ng screen mo!!!
w/ this screen ba pinapa lampas mo yung blackbars sa screen to simulate an anamorphic image?
:)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2008 at 10:02 AM
w/ this screen ba pinapa lampas mo yung blackbars sa screen to simulate an anamorphic image?
:)
Hi doc! No, I don't do that. To do that, the screen should have an aspect ratio of 2.35:1. This screen is 1.78:1.
The best way to do that is with a special lens - I think the best is Panamorph - which costs around $400! I can simulate something similar through the use of my video processor, but I would lose light output.
The problem with the 2.35 screen is that a 1.78 film (especially most concerts) will become smaller and a 1.33 film will look tiny. Since I watch a lot of concerts and older films, I prefer to have a 1.78 screen.
The only ones I know who have this set-up, including a Panamorph lens, are alvinthx2 and jay2.
Post by: Munskie on Nov 28, 2008 at 10:09 AM
Hi doc! No, I don't do that. To do that, the screen should have an aspect ratio of 2.35:1. This screen is 1.78:1.
The best way to do that is with a special lens - I think the best is Panamorph - which costs around $400! I can simulate something similar through the use of my video processor, but I would lose light output.
The problem with the 2.35 screen is that a 1.78 film (especially most concerts) will become smaller and a 1.33 film will look tiny. Since I watch a lot of concerts and older films, I prefer to have a 1.78 screen.
The only ones I know who have this set-up, including a Panamorph lens, are alvinthx2 and jay2.
Mark...panamorph lens di lang $400......around $3000!!! :o :o
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2008 at 10:31 AM
Mark...panamorph lens di lang $400......around $3000!!! :o :o
Ay mali! Nawala ang isang zero! Hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
Pero ang alam ako is that Alvin and Jay got theirs at a big discount kasi class B. May maliit na gasgas sa casing pero wala problem ang lens.
Post by: iiinas on Nov 28, 2008 at 12:46 PM
Mark...panamorph lens di lang $400......around $3000!!! :o :o
lens lang 150k pesos! o-may-gulay!!! ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 28, 2008 at 01:56 PM
lens lang 150k pesos! o-may-gulay!!! ;D
i 2nd da motion !!! YIKES! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 28, 2008 at 02:26 PM
lens lang 150k pesos! o-may-gulay!!! ;D
:o :o :o para ka na bumili ng 2nd hand na kotse :o :o :o
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2008 at 03:12 PM
:o :o :o para ka na bumili ng 2nd hand na kotse :o :o :o
Actually, meron din syang extra attachment which is a small device with motor to put the lens in position and then to move it out when you watch a film with aspect ratio that is not 2.35. That small device costs another $4000. :o
Ang ginawa ni alvinthx2 is to attach the lens to the rails of a sliding cabinet. Mano-mano na lang. Much cheaper. :D
And by the way, I just recalled thaat there is a 3rd guy at Pinoydvd who owns one -- Mr. BnW.
Post by: docelmo on Nov 28, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Hehehe thanks!!! kala ko naka panamorph ka na din.....well am sure that day will come :o :o :o
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2008 at 05:17 PM
Hehehe thanks!!! kala ko naka panamorph ka na din.....well am sure that day will come :o :o :o
Really no. I watch too many concerts and old films which are in 1.78 and 1.33 formats
Post by: docelmo on Nov 28, 2008 at 05:22 PM
Really no. I watch too many concerts and old films which are in 1.78 and 1.33 formats
Hehehe oks! sir mark, next time na lumuwas talaga ako, i'll make it a point to visit you and your awesome HT!
Ops! sorry po, ako na nag invite sa saliri ko! And i'll join you watch those concerts....and some "not" so old movies...
i'll bring some pinangat/laing and pili(unless mataas uric acid mo) ;D
;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Nov 28, 2008 at 05:26 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 28, 2008 at 06:33 PM
Hahaha!!! ;D ;D
Actually, ernie has exactly the same screen. 133". And the screen of Jay2 has a WIDTH of 144" kaya more than 150" sya sa diagonal.
Woohoo! I stand corrected! Sige na nga....Biggest screen most seen by pinoydvd members! (sabay kabig!) Hehe! I am just awed and humbled. Makes my 90" screen look puny. ;)
Sir Mark, di ka na kelangang kulamin...susuko ang mga mangkus sayo!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Nov 28, 2008 at 09:46 PM
Woohoo! I stand corrected! Sige na nga....Biggest screen most seen by pinoydvd members! (sabay kabig!) Hehe! I am just awed and humbled. Makes my 90" screen look puny. ;)
Sir Mark, di ka na kelangang kulamin...susuko ang mga mangkus sayo!!! ;D ;D ;D
yan ang marka ng matitindi sa hobby natin, hindi na kailangan ng mangungulam, kasi.....
kaya nila kulamin sarili nila!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 28, 2008 at 10:16 PM
yan ang marka ng matitindi sa hobby natin, hindi na kailangan ng mangungulam, kasi.....
kaya nila kulamin sarili nila!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Yesssss....the ULTIMATE LEVEL!!!! :o :o :o Mas mahal at maganda pa ang meron ka dun sa kinukulam sayo. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2008 at 07:50 AM
kaya nila kulamin sarili nila!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Bro iiinas, pasko na!!! SARS season na po!
Actually, my last Xmas gift to me (aside from screen and surround speakers) is a new projector lamp. Ikakabit today. Should result in a much brighter picture. ;D ;D
Pagkatapos nito, pahinga muna and bawas muna sa mga "unwatched" list ko. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2008 at 07:52 AM
Hehehe oks! sir mark, next time na lumuwas talaga ako, i'll make it a point to visit you and your awesome HT!
Ops! sorry po, ako na nag invite sa saliri ko! And i'll join you watch those concerts....and some "not" so old movies...
i'll bring some pinangat/laing and pili(unless mataas uric acid mo) ;D
;D ;D ;D
Doc, ang wife ko is from Tabaco so we get a regular supply of Bicol goodies. Dala ka na lang ng favorite DVD mo para mapanood natin. PM o txt mo lang ako kung gusto mo bisita. :) :)
Post by: iiinas on Nov 29, 2008 at 08:18 AM
Doc, ang wife ko is from Tabaco so we get a regular supply of Bicol goodies. Dala ka na lang ng favorite DVD mo para mapanood natin. PM o txt mo lang ako kung gusto mo bisita. :) :)
sama ako dyan ha, para ma meet ko rin si doc. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: docelmo on Nov 29, 2008 at 08:43 AM
Doc, ang wife ko is from Tabaco so we get a regular supply of Bicol goodies. Dala ka na lang ng favorite DVD mo para mapanood natin. PM o txt mo lang ako kung gusto mo bisita. :) :)
Wooho! kababayan ko pala wife mo? my wife is from tiwi(nearby town), Hehehe alryt! Iam looking forward to it!!!
sama ako dyan ha, para ma meet ko rin si doc. ;D ;D ;D
Hehehe oks bro! Hope to see u also in the near future!
;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2008 at 08:58 AM
Hahaha!!! ;D ;Dbro i still have your address in my inbox .. ill bring my ozawa uncensored video .. :D
Actually, ernie has exactly the same screen. 133". And the screen of Jay2 has a WIDTH of 144" kaya more than 150" sya sa diagonal.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2008 at 09:32 AM
bro i still have your address in my inbox .. ill bring my ozawa uncensored video .. :D
Haha! Parang mini-EB na. Sige, hintay natin si doc! :) :)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 29, 2008 at 09:42 AM
bro i still have your address in my inbox .. ill bring my ozawa uncensored video .. :D
huwooow!!!
panalo yang si MO sa BIG screen ni sir Mark! wooooohooo!!! panood! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2008 at 10:05 AM
huwooow!!!
panalo yang si MO sa BIG screen ni sir Mark! wooooohooo!!! panood! ;D ;D ;D
Haha! Parang mini-EB na. Sige, hintay natin si doc! :) :)naka-copy ata si doc nung last meetup namin .. :D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 29, 2008 at 11:15 AM
naka-copy ata si doc nung last meetup namin .. :D
yan na ba yung pixel-free version? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2008 at 11:19 AM
yan na ba yung pixel-free version? ;D ;D ;D
yezzir .. :D
well .. dvd9 quality sya eh :D :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:51 PM
I thought it might be time to provide an update on what I’ve done to improve my HT, in sequential order of acquisition.
Ever since alvinthx2 first calibrated my projector, I had always desired to get my own spectrometer and calibration software. Alvin’s calibration had resulted in much more accurate colors. Thus, clouds were white, not bluish-white while black was black, not reddish-black. This color accuracy can be seen in all aspects of a film, including skin tones of course. It thus provides a much more realistic image. Furthermore, when white is white and black is black, the contrast ratio improves, thus providing more pop to the picture. Combining these with the video processing done by the DVDO VP50Pro results in a picture which has a 3D quality.
A few months ago, Paul Chin posted a link to a fantastic article on video calibration:
http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10457
To my surprise, it turned out that the cost of video calibration sensors and software had gone down significantly so I decided to get an EyeOne Pro spectrometer and Calman video calibration software.
Calman software: http://www.spectracal.com/
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Before the equipment arrived, I spent several hours reviewing the article on video calibration. Over a weekend, I then spent several more hours trying out the calibration. Little by little, I came to understand the process and by my third try at calibration, I thought I had a decent output.
Several weeks later, I had the opportunity to assist John, the ISF-certified technician of AV Driver, in doing a more refined calibration of the projector. Our main objective was to increase the gamma, which was then too low. Gamma is more or less a standard which defines the proper intensity of gray at various levels of light output. It improves shadow detail. After working with John for more than 2 hours, we were able to significantly improve gamma, thus further improving the 3D quality of the image. Our work is not complete, however, and I hope to use a special software called “Image Director” to get the best gamma possible.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:52 PM
Fortunately, through a Pinoydvd member (I forget now who), I learned about a device that can transform your normal IR remote into an RF remote – the “Next Generation Remote Control Extender.” Thus, you can be anywhere in the room and the remote will work:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/RCext.jpg)
This was a great help in calibration.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
I thus decided to get one of the most popular universal remotes, which is the Harmony One:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/HarmonyOne.jpg)
Fortunately, I was able to get this through still another Pinoydvd member, at a reasonable price. For various reasons, however, including the need to send an internet connection to my HT, I still haven’t fully programmed the remote. With the coming holidays, I may have the chance to do so.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:53 PM
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The Denon 3808 has several improvements over the 2808, including the following:
1. It has a fabulous Graphic-User-Interface (GUI), in other words Menu, which pops up over the picture. This is unlike the 2808, wherein you need to stop playback in order to see the Menu on the screen. The GUI is also more user-friendly. I often manipulate my AVR (and projector and video processor) for individual films so this feature is very useful. Some of the typical adjustments I make with the GUI are:
a. Tone controls. I often watch films at a bit below reference level. Because of this, I need to increase bass and treble a little bit because one’s perception of the low and high frequencies diminishes more rapidly than the mid-frequencies, as the volume is decreased.
b. Surround set-up. I normally watch movies with a 6.1 set-up. Concerts are another thing. I find that quite often, a stereo output is better. At other times, a Dolby Prologic IIx – Music Mode is better.
c. Audyssey mode. The 3808 utilizes Audyssey MultEQ XT, a room correction technology which is pretty much state-of-the-art. The normal Audyssey mode has a slight roll-off starting at 2 khz. For concerts, it is preferable to select a flat Audyssey mode, which has no roll-off.
2. Digital to Analog Converters (DACs). The 3808 has much better DACs than the 2808. There is a distinct improvement in audio quality.
3. Extra set of surround speakers. Ever since I built my theater in 1999, I had always dreamed of having 2 sets of surround speakers because the room is quite long (30 feet). The 3808 allows you to have 2 sets of surround speakers – set A and set B. The incredible thing about the 3808 is that you can calibrate each surround speaker individually and as a combination, using Audyssey MultEQ XT.
4. Greater amp power. The power amp of the 3808 is rated at 140 watts per channel, while the 2808 is rated at 110 watts.
The 3808 also has networking capability but frankly, I haven’t bothered to try this out yet.
You can also add a cool new Audyssey feature called Dynamic EQ and Dynamic volume, through an on-line download. However, I have decided not to do this because the process isn’t perfect and if for some reason, the upgrade is not done right, you have to send the unit to Denon USA.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:54 PM
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This was composed of 2 JBL XPL-series speakers hooked in parallel in a dipole set-up. The problem was that with aggressive surround effects, you could often notice that the sound was coming from the rear of the room. This is not correct. Surround sounds should most often be non-localizable. It is a diffuse sound and you don’t know where it is coming from.
To solve this problem, I determined that I had to do two things:
1. Mount the speakers high (which I couldn’t do with my very heavy set of surrounds).
2. Install a second set of surround speakers towards the front of the room, preferably dipoles so as to enhance the diffuseness of the sound.
After some research, I decided to get 2 pairs of Paradigm ADP-370’s:
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While the speakers look tiny in my large HT and when compared to the other speakers, I figured that they were sufficient, considering that each speaker has 2 x 6.5” woofers and 2 x 1” tweeters. That means that when I use all 4 speakers, each channel has 4 x 6.5” woofers and 4 x 1” tweeters.
Since the ceiling at the rear of my HT is 14’8” high, I mounted the speakers around 9’ high, using DIY brackets which allow me to easily remove the speakers for maintenance purposes.
The result is pretty good. I feel I accomplished what I set out to achieve. The surround sounds are now quite diffuse and seem to really fill up the room.
Issue: Isn’t it better to get surrounds which are the same brand and model as the rest of the speakers? Theoretically, this is true. However, I believe that the surround speakers are a less critical component of the audio experience because they mainly provide ambience. Furthermore, with the use of the Audyssey room correction, you achieve a better tonal balance among all your speakers.
My front and center speakers are both PSB Stratus models and I guess that is what is most critical.
As an added comment, I have noticed that the surround speakers use much less power than the front or center speakers. Therefore, I decided to use the internal power amp of the Denon 3808. Since the 3808 has 140 watts per speaker and I have 2 speakers per surround channel, I effectively have 280 watts per channel. This means that I have now freed up my Aragon 4004 power amp – I now have a spare amp in case the power amps for the front or center blows.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:56 PM
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The problem is that I could not move my viewing position forward beyond a certain point because of the location of my equipment rack. Therefore, I had to increase the size of the screen. Furthermore, my projector does not have a huge light output. In order to improve the light output, my screen had a gain of 2.8. In addition, I discovered a very useful tweak from AVS Forum which results in a huge increase in light output through the service menu. In spite of this, my light output measured only 12 ft-lamberts, which is the minimum. The next bigger screen was 133”, as opposed to my 119” screen and this has 25% more area. This would reduce the light output below the minimum standard.
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The only way to jack up my light output would be to purchase a new projector lamp. Unfortunately, the replacement lamp for the Sony VPL-VW100 is extremely expensive. Again, I discovered through AVS Forum that instead of purchasing the standard replacement lamp, which includes a big housing (including heat sinks), you could purchase just the lamp from certain vendors at 30% of the cost. The downside is that you would have to open up the housing:
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I found the replacement lamp from eBay, purchased it through Paypal and had it delivered through JAC. No problems.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/VPL-VW100lamp.jpg)
I got a contractor friend of mine to help bring down the projector, carefully disassemble the lamp housing and install the new lamp. No problems.
After all of this, I had to get my friend John from AV Driver to help me in the calibration of the projector. It took us more than 3 hours but the result was great.
The end-result is pretty good. The screen is huge. The light-output is initially at 22 ft-lamberts, which is on the high end of the standard, but I expect this to go down rapidly over the next few months, as the lamp ages.
A few days after the Pacquiao-de la Hoya fight, I got to watch it in high definition and it was incredible on the bigger screen and with the new lamp.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2008 at 12:57 PM
1) 2 more 1 terabyte external hard drives for my eGreat. That makes 3 x 1 terabyte external drives + 1 x 500 GB internal drive.
2) A spare HD DVD player – a Toshiba HD-A3.
I have decided to pause on the upgrade path. I have made huge changes in my HT over the past year and I think it is time to stop and start enjoying movies, rather than continuously tweak the system. Besides that, I have a huge inventory of unwatched films which will probably take me two years to finish.
Famous last words. Hehe.
Merry Christmas!! Happy SARS day!! ;D
Post by: Waxx on Dec 22, 2008 at 01:13 PM
not to mention penny pinching techniques and stuff too...
sir mark has love!
Post by: iiinas on Dec 22, 2008 at 02:29 PM
ang sarap magbasa.. daming natututunan on how to make a GREAT HT room GREATER!..
not to mention penny pinching techniques and stuff too...
sir mark has love!
+1 brader waxx!
very nice indeed sir mark. have not seen your new lamp output on the 133' screen yet but definitely sampled you r new surround speakers during the xmas eb. master and commander was really alive during the demo, i felt like i was in the middle of the battle! great stuff! ;D
tibay ng upgrade natin sa hdd ah, 2 tera agad! :o :o :o
congrats!
ps - lakas ng loob niyo sir mark to take the pj apart! :o
Post by: alvinthx2 on Dec 22, 2008 at 06:45 PM
All the best!
Post by: juanch on Dec 22, 2008 at 07:09 PM
I agree that your surrounds were too noticeable in my last visit to the point that it was distracting the viewing experience.
Mounting your new surrounds definitely was the way to go. Hope to hear it soon ;)
Merry Christmas!!! God Bless!!!
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 22, 2008 at 07:49 PM
Astig talaga siguro manuod dito. Sana sa next EB makasama na ako!
;)
Merry Christmas Chief!
Post by: frootloops on Dec 22, 2008 at 08:24 PM
Merry Upgrade and a Happy Congratulations!
Cheers sir Mark!
ps. mas MALAKI na si DEBBIE dyan! :o
Post by: alvinh on Dec 23, 2008 at 01:18 AM
In addition to all these, I have also acquired a few more goodies:
1) 2 more 1 terabyte external hard drives for my eGreat. That makes 3 x 1 terabyte external drives + 1 x 500 GB internal drive.
2) A spare HD DVD player – a Toshiba HD-A3.
I have decided to pause on the upgrade path. I have made huge changes in my HT over the past year and I think it is time to stop and start enjoying movies, rather than continuously tweak the system. Besides that, I have a huge inventory of unwatched films which will probably take me two years to finish.
Famous last words. Hehe.
Merry Christmas!! Happy SARS day!! ;D
Congratulations on these great additions Sir Mark. I believe you hit the nail right on its head...start really enjoying your gears. Most of us could only dream of even having a rig much like yours. We certainly would be taking this holiday break to enjoy the set up. You have so much unwatched movies. Whew. ;D
Merry Christmas to you and your family Sir Mark. Thanks once again for making this year a wonderful HT experience for us.
Have a blessed holiday.
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 23, 2008 at 04:59 AM
;D ;D ;D A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU SIR MARK AND YOUR FAMILY!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 23, 2008 at 07:31 AM
Post by: JAQY888 on Dec 23, 2008 at 08:00 AM
Congratz po, bro. Mark.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!! :D :D :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:25 AM
ang sarap magbasa.. daming natututunan on how to make a GREAT HT room GREATER!..
not to mention penny pinching techniques and stuff too...
Hi Johnny! I am only giving back to the Pinoydvd community what I have learned from many guys in this forum! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:30 AM
ps - lakas ng loob niyo sir mark to take the pj apart! :o
The difference in price between a simple lamp and the whole housing is huge. Takot din ako magkalas ng pj but at AVS Forum, some guys even posted step-by-step instructions and pictures kaya lumakas ang loob ko. In this hobby, kailangan talaga research ng husto and DIY. Otherwise, sobra gastos! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:33 AM
A very bright and sharp Christmas to you Mark. I think that you are almost cured of SARS as the upgrade path is almost over. Pero puwedeng bumalik ang illness mo in the NEAR future. ;D
All the best!
Ang galing naman ng Christmas greeting mo! Thanks a lot, Alvin and Merry Christmas din!
Alam mo naman that we talked for a long time about the bigger screen and new lamp. You were correct. Now, I think I will change my lamp every year. ;D
Actually, pinag-iisipan ko din ang offer ni Ashley on the PSB Synchrony One speakers ... But maybe in 2010! ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:35 AM
Ang galing.
Astig talaga siguro manuod dito. Sana sa next EB makasama na ako!
;)
Merry Christmas Chief!
I will make sure that imbitado ka sa next EB. Merry Christmas din! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:36 AM
The subject says it all. ;)
Merry Upgrade and a Happy Congratulations!
Cheers sir Mark!
ps. mas MALAKI na si DEBBIE dyan! :o
Hahaha! Merry Christmas din, Donnel! :)
Yes, you are absolutely correct. Syempre na-prueba ko na. Hehe. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:41 AM
Congratulations on these great additions Sir Mark. I believe you hit the nail right on its head...start really enjoying your gears. Most of us could only dream of even having a rig much like yours. We certainly would be taking this holiday break to enjoy the set up. You have so much unwatched movies. Whew. ;D
Merry Christmas to you and your family Sir Mark. Thanks once again for making this year a wonderful HT experience for us.
Have a blessed holiday.
Thanks, Alvin. Merry Christmas din to you and your family! :)
Nagbilang nga ako. This year, we organized 7 EB's:
1) alvinthx2 in January
2) HT ko in February
3) munskie in April
4) alvinthx2 in May
5) Shoot-out #1 sa HT ko in July
6) Shoot-out #2 sa HT ko in September
7) Xmas EB sa HT ko in November
We need more guys to host EB's, kahit mini-EB lang like the EB sa HT ni dts-hd (4 kami). This year, I must have met 40 of the greatest guys in the planet through these EB's. :) :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2008 at 09:44 AM
Iba talaga ang Pinoy. I don't think there is any other country in the world that has such a grand Christmas holiday season. Sabi ko nga sa friends ko that I have been in London and Paris during the Christmas season and those cities look absolutely dead compared to the Christmas decor and lights that you find in Manila! :) :)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 23, 2008 at 02:18 PM
mamamasko kami dyan sa haus mo ha! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: jojitv on Dec 23, 2008 at 05:35 PM
Post by: iiinas on Dec 23, 2008 at 06:22 PM
merry christmas to you and your family! enjoy the holidays!
Post by: Waxx on Dec 23, 2008 at 11:15 PM
thanks sa lahat na tips and tricks na tinuturo nyo sa akin.. thanks din sa magandang pj screen altho parang di aabot ng full projection, pero ok narin.. ganda talaga ng screen e... just reupholstered the screen as of today... will install it tomorrow...
happy holidays to you and your family..
Post by: Mr.H on Dec 23, 2008 at 11:18 PM
Merry Christmas to you and your family!!!
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 24, 2008 at 07:25 AM
Here's my gift for you while you listen to your Audio Gears!
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Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM
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Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 24, 2008 at 01:14 PM
;D ;D ;D A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU SIR MARK AND TO YOUR FAMILY!!! ;D ;D ;D[/move
Post by: MAtZTER on Dec 24, 2008 at 01:31 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Post by: Marl☆1 on Dec 24, 2008 at 03:33 PM
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Post by: jay2 on Dec 24, 2008 at 05:01 PM
MERRY X-MAS MARK AND TO YOUR FAMILY :)
Congrats on all your upgrades sir :D
Actually, pinag-iisipan ko din ang offer ni Ashley on the PSB Synchrony One speakers ... But maybe in 2010! ;D ;D
Hmmm sa 2010 malamng kating kati na buong katawan mo ;D
Post by: frootloops on Dec 24, 2008 at 09:35 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A BLESSED NEW YEAR !! ENJOY AND HAVE FUN!!
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Post by: John E. on Dec 25, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Post by: blackd70s on Dec 27, 2008 at 12:19 AM
How was your holiday bro? Happy New Year!
Post by: Mr.H on Dec 31, 2008 at 06:57 AM
Happy Blessed and Prosperous New Year to All!!!
Post by: Huddaf on Dec 31, 2008 at 07:52 AM
From one Good Looking Father to Another! Happy New Year!!!
Post by: iiinas on Dec 31, 2008 at 08:52 AM
have a great one in 2009!
Post by: JAQY888 on Dec 31, 2008 at 10:57 AM
CLICK ME (http://www.icq.com/img/friendship/static/card_16961_rs.swf)
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 31, 2008 at 10:58 AM
Post by: jay2 on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:04 PM
Sir Mark have a wonderful and prosperous new year and to your family ;) ;) ;) ;)
Post by: blackie on Dec 31, 2008 at 03:08 PM
Cheers!
Blackie
Post by: pchin on Dec 31, 2008 at 05:26 PM
Cheers Mark! ;)
Post by: jojitv on Dec 31, 2008 at 08:07 PM
Post by: danrd on Jan 02, 2009 at 09:52 AM
Post by: Waxx on Feb 21, 2009 at 01:12 PM
hopefully the local tv does justice to sir marks HT...
Post by: jojitv on Feb 21, 2009 at 01:17 PM
balita ko may cameo appearance si kuya mark mamaya sa jessica soho sa gma.. 9pm...
hopefully the local tv does justice to sir marks HT...
Really? Abangan ko nga :). Iba pa rin talaga pag na-experience mo live ang HT sir Mark.
Post by: juanch on Feb 21, 2009 at 01:53 PM
I will anticipate the feature on your HT mamaya 9pm sa GMA :) :)
Post by: iiinas on Feb 21, 2009 at 02:30 PM
showbiz na talaga si sir mark! ;D ;D ;D
congrats!
Post by: deo on Feb 21, 2009 at 02:38 PM
Post by: dieselsy on Feb 21, 2009 at 05:46 PM
Post by: keema on Feb 21, 2009 at 07:49 PM
congrats sir! :)
Post by: blackie on Feb 21, 2009 at 09:34 PM
Post by: frootloops on Feb 21, 2009 at 09:40 PM
Sana si Debbie ang pina-demo nyo! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 21, 2009 at 10:25 PM
Sana si Debbie ang pina-demo nyo! :D
hahaha! Oo nga!
It was really short pero ok naman. I hope the message the producers sent was positive .. maybe that its fun and good to invest in a home theater.
I didn't like it that they posted the cost, especially cuz I told them not to. And if you count the cost of the bala + the room & furniture ...
Anyway .. it was fun. My one minute (or more like 20 seconds) of fame. Hintayin ko na lang tawag ng Hollywood. But I won't forget you guys! All pinoydvd members can claim free autograph from me!! ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Feb 21, 2009 at 10:37 PM
hahaha! Oo nga!
I didn't like it that they posted the cost, especially cuz I told them not to. And if you count the cost of the bala + the room & furniture ...
Actually this is what I am curious about...if you/they will mention it. But alas!!......sinubsob pa sa screen! :o ;D
It was really short pero ok naman. I hope the message the producers sent was positive .. maybe that its fun and good to invest in a home theater.
Most will assume and think that it is expensive...WOW! may HomeTheater!, not knowing that you can have a decent HT by not spending much. However...after people saw how much yours' costs now they are saying.....syet! mahal nga! :D :D
Anyway .. it was fun. My one minute (or more like 20 seconds) of fame. Hintayin ko na lang tawag ng Hollywood. But I won't forget you guys! All pinoydvd members can claim free autograph from me!! ;D ;D
The fact that you were interviewed is really a fame to be proud of. Ma-feature nga lang sa magazine or any tv show oks na oks na...eh sayo with matching interview pa. HUSAY! ;D
Btw, you look young in that interview....parang mga 40's ka lang dun. ;D
........may kapalit yan pagpuri sa edad.
akin na lang SouthBoarder CD mo! :D
Post by: praktikal on Feb 21, 2009 at 10:46 PM
Post by: alvinh on Feb 21, 2009 at 11:02 PM
Edit ko lang mga commercials...it's not hidef as I use my TV tuner on mp2 format.
Ano, youtube natin?
Post by: iiinas on Feb 22, 2009 at 12:35 AM
I was able to record it Chief! ;D
Edit ko lang mga commercials...it's not hidef as I use my TV tuner on mp2 format.
Ano, youtube natin?
youtube youtube youtube! ;D ;D ;D
btw, congrats sir mark!!! nice one!
Post by: JollyBMcDonald on Feb 22, 2009 at 12:35 AM
You're now a celebrity Sir Mark.... I'm sure the PinoyDVD community is proud of you ;D
I smell an E.B..... what do you guys think? ::)
Congrats !!!
JollyBMcDonald 8)
Post by: Mr.H on Feb 22, 2009 at 12:58 AM
I was able to record it Chief! ;D
Edit ko lang mga commercials...it's not hidef as I use my TV tuner on mp2 format.
Ano, youtube natin?
youtube youtube youtube! ;D ;D ;D
btw, congrats sir mark!!! nice one!
Korek kayo dyan brader Alvs and brader Ayns.... :)
youtube na agad yan at ng mapanood naman namin dito sa abroad.... ;D :D ;)
Congrats sir Mark!! ;)
Post by: JAQY888 on Feb 22, 2009 at 04:51 AM
Congratz !!!!! ;)
Youtube !!!!!!! :D :D :D
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:21 AM
Post by: mike c on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:48 AM
I was able to record it Chief! ;D
Edit ko lang mga commercials...it's not hidef as I use my TV tuner on mp2 format.
Ano, youtube natin?
youtube!
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:00 AM
Btw, you look young in that interview....parang mga 40's ka lang dun. ;D
I LAB U ... ;D ;D
Yes, you may claim the South Border CD from my place at any time whatsoever. May kasama pang free kape. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:02 AM
I was able to record it Chief! ;D
Edit ko lang mga commercials...it's not hidef as I use my TV tuner on mp2 format.
Ano, youtube natin?
Alvin, isipin mo naman ... baka dumugin ako ng mga fans kapag na-youtube mo sya! Mapagod kamay ko sa kapipirma ng autograph! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:27 AM
Anyway, sir congrats. youtube, youtube, youtube
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:34 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:53 AM
Sir meron ako kasalanan. I'm very sorry I forgot to tell my wife to record the show. It must be all the red wine I drank, then tumuloy ako afterwards sa class reunion namin. Had a few beers there, by the time I looked at the time it was past 10:30pm. Bad trip, forgot to call my wife.
Anyway, sir congrats. youtube, youtube, youtube
Hi, Raymund! Ok lang kasi na-record ni brader Alvinh. :)
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 22, 2009 at 09:37 AM
congrats and we're very proud of you sir! ;D
Post by: deo on Feb 22, 2009 at 09:58 AM
Post by: Munskie on Feb 22, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Congrats Mark!!
Post by: jojitv on Feb 22, 2009 at 10:14 AM
Post by: alvinh on Feb 22, 2009 at 02:26 PM
Will post a better clip once I get a chance. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9SpEly4Gg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9SpEly4Gg)
Congrats once again Sir Mark!
Pa-autograph nga! ;D
Post by: muhlach on Feb 22, 2009 at 02:55 PM
Sana d na bnanggit mgkano nagastos kc delikado,ask ko lng bkt MATRIX napili mong mo movie.
Post by: MARU on Feb 22, 2009 at 04:25 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Feb 22, 2009 at 05:23 PM
Mabuhay ang dream theater ng PDVD! . . . telegenic ka pala sir Mark ;D
Bro Alvin, thanks for posting sa youtube.
Post by: keema on Feb 22, 2009 at 07:32 PM
Post by: iiinas on Feb 22, 2009 at 08:33 PM
Here it is mi amigos. Sorry for the bad image and a little delay in sound..nagmamadali kasi e. ;)great upload brader alvin!
Will post a better clip once I get a chance. :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9SpEly4Gg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2y9SpEly4Gg)
Congrats once again Sir Mark!
Pa-autograph nga! ;D
congrats uli sir mark!
Post by: macdon on Feb 22, 2009 at 09:43 PM
Thanks to sir Alvin for posting the youtube link.
Post by: pchin on Feb 22, 2009 at 10:44 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 23, 2009 at 07:44 AM
Regarding the choice of Matrix, that's just one of my standard show-off videos. E, once I loaded it, tuloy-tuloy na.
They asked me how much it cost by text. Tanga ko naman at sagot ko "More than P2 Million. But I hope you don't advertise this." When they interviewed me, inulit ko na wag nilang ipalabas yung cost. In spite of all that, pinalabas pa rin, pero symepre kasalanan ko for even responding to their question. I even told them that a decent HT will cost around P40k + TV. It's not a lot.
I had hoped that they could have put a better spin to it ... like it is a social hobby cuz it's shared with friends and family and it doesn't really have to cost that much ... but the ones that I was dealing with were the lower-level guys while the ones who did the editing never even talked to me or even saw the HT. They just saw the shots.
Anyhow, I guess ok pa rin. I'm sure it got some people to get curious about HT. And even the Channel 7 interviewer man lang, she kept asking me how to set up her own HT. I advised her to just become a member of Pinoydvd! ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 23, 2009 at 08:15 AM
Anyhow, I guess ok pa rin. I'm sure it got some people to get curious about HT. And even the Channel 7 interviewer man lang, she kept asking me how to set up her own HT. I advised her to just become a member of Pinoydvd! ;D ;D
yari siya pag nagmember. SARS tiyak yun! ;D ;D ;D
siguradong converted yun.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Feb 23, 2009 at 08:45 AM
Congrats!
di ko napanood.... 11pm na ako nakarating ng bahay! :D
buti na lang andyan si brader alvs to the rescue!
salamat for uploading sa youtube bro!
kwestyon lang po.....
PINAUPO mo sila sa SWEETSPOT ko? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Waxx on Feb 23, 2009 at 09:37 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 23, 2009 at 10:01 AM
idol streetsmark, si jessica soho ba yung nagtatanong ng pdvd? or hinde? cute ba? and single? if so, id be glad to show her around pdvd community.. ;D
Not Jessica Soho. Nasa early 30's siguro sya. Ewan lang kung single. And syempre super cute sya!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Waxx on Feb 23, 2009 at 10:36 AM
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 23, 2009 at 10:48 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 23, 2009 at 04:32 PM
Thanks bro Alvin for posting in Youtube. Madownload nga...
Post by: deo on Feb 24, 2009 at 12:10 PM
Post by: leomar on Feb 25, 2009 at 01:01 PM
panoorin ko rin mamaya ung upload... astig!
Post by: jerix on Feb 25, 2009 at 01:23 PM
Post by: muhlach on Feb 26, 2009 at 07:53 PM
Alvin, thanks for posting sa youtube! Ok lang, kahit crude sya.
Regarding the choice of Matrix, that's just one of my standard show-off videos. E, once I loaded it, tuloy-tuloy na.
They asked me how much it cost by text. Tanga ko naman at sagot ko "More than P2 Million. But I hope you don't advertise this." When they interviewed me, inulit ko na wag nilang ipalabas yung cost. In spite of all that, pinalabas pa rin, pero symepre kasalanan ko for even responding to their question. I even told them that a decent HT will cost around P40k + TV. It's not a lot.
I had hoped that they could have put a better spin to it ... like it is a social hobby cuz it's shared with friends and family and it doesn't really have to cost that much ... but the ones that I was dealing with were the lower-level guys while the ones who did the editing never even talked to me or even saw the HT. They just saw the shots.
Anyhow, I guess ok pa rin. I'm sure it got some people to get curious about HT. And even the Channel 7 interviewer man lang, she kept asking me how to set up her own HT. I advised her to just become a member of Pinoydvd! ;D ;D
ggud pm sir streetsmart tnx for d reply regarding sa MATRIX part 1 lng kc npanood ko 2 or 3 years na sa akn ung part 234 d ko pa dn napanood.
regardng naman sa amount i thought of that allready na cnabi nla na d iaadvertise ung 2 million may be na OVERWHELMED cla sa SET-UP nyo kya d nla napigilan CONGRATS AGAIN
Post by: Saxman on Mar 01, 2009 at 07:59 PM
Post by: John E. on May 03, 2009 at 05:39 AM
...butt ;D the best of all was the educational video you shared with us ;)
sa uulitin po sir mark!
thanks! ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on May 03, 2009 at 05:56 AM
akala ko seryoso si mark, mas makulit pa pala sakin :D :D
sana maimbitahan din ako sa susunod .. hmm educational stuff shootout naman!
Post by: John E. on May 03, 2009 at 06:00 AM
thanks for the invite bro!
akala ko seryoso si mark, mas makulit pa pala sakin :D :D
sana maimbitahan din ako sa susunod .. hmm educational stuff shootout naman!
ang aga ng gising bro ah ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on May 03, 2009 at 06:30 AM
ang aga ng gising bro ah ;)kulang tulog ko bro ;D
hanggang ngayon nararamdaman ko pa dagundong yung mga subs nila mark and marco :D
Post by: John E. on May 03, 2009 at 06:38 AM
kulang tulog ko bro ;D
hanggang ngayon nararamdaman ko pa dagundong yung mga subs nila mark and marco :D
LOL!
Post by: streetsmart on May 03, 2009 at 07:25 AM
sir mark! thanks again for inviting us to the wonderful EB and great subs shoot-out! it was a pleasure meeting other pdvd members aswell!
...butt ;D the best of all was the educational video you shared with us ;)
sa uulitin po sir mark!
thanks! ;D
Hahaha! Ang saya nga. Good excuse for inuman and pinoydvd bonding time.
Ang kulang lang ay si xxxyzledge. Miz na miz sya ng lahat, lalo na ng lumabas ang educational video. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 03, 2009 at 07:27 AM
thanks for the invite bro!
akala ko seryoso si mark, mas makulit pa pala sakin :D :D
sana maimbitahan din ako sa susunod .. hmm educational stuff shootout naman!
Hehe! D mo pa yata na-meet mga pinakamakukulit na si xxxyzledge at jazzyjake. Hirap talaga ang absent sa EB kasi sila lagi ang pinag-uusapan. ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 03, 2009 at 08:01 AM
sa mga ka tropa na miss din namin kayo...
may susunod pa ba sir mark? :'( :'( :'(
Post by: streetsmart on May 03, 2009 at 08:48 AM
si sir mark talaga oo... nanginggit pa... tsk sayang talaga pero may lakad eh.
sa mga ka tropa na miss din namin kayo...
may susunod pa ba sir mark? :'( :'( :'(
Miz ka talaga namin. In fact, lapit ko na pinagpalit ang South Border CD with the speakers of DIY_master. Pumapayag na nga sya pero *precious* talaga yun sa akin kaya d ko na tinuloy. ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 03, 2009 at 08:56 AM
Miz ka talaga namin. In fact, lapit ko na pinagpalit ang South Border CD with the speakers of DIY_master. Pumapayag na nga sya pero *precious* talaga yun sa akin kaya d ko na tinuloy. ;D
bwehehehe!
Post by: mike c on May 03, 2009 at 08:57 AM
antayin natin yung cylinder ultra.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 03, 2009 at 10:44 AM
Miz ka talaga namin. In fact, lapit ko na pinagpalit ang South Border CD with the speakers of DIY_master. Pumapayag na nga sya pero *precious* talaga yun sa akin kaya d ko na tinuloy. ;D
naku! magsisisi ka pag pinakawalan mo yan sir mark!!! collectors item yan! wala ka nang makikita niyan! ikaw din!
;D ;D ;D
sige na please mag sched naman kayo ulit!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 03, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Sarap bumisita uli, laging meron improvement sa HT mo . . . laging may bago sa setup. This time the new 133" screen w/ 2.8 gain matching the new projector lamp & the extra digm sub. Ayus talaga.
As always, thanks for your generosity sir Mark.
Sana nga meron din SVS & Velo sa shootout (di ko nadala sa akin ;D) Meron ba round 2?
Post by: gunblade977 on May 03, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on May 03, 2009 at 05:23 PM
Post by: blackie on May 03, 2009 at 07:09 PM
Thanks again for your graciousness and hospitality for having us :D By the way, iyak yung Scottish Friend po ninyo? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 03, 2009 at 08:53 PM
Mark thanks for being a wonderful host as always. Mabilis ata naubos ang wine natin. Nasasanay na ang mga invitees to feel at home and to drink "socially". Baka maging regular na to ah. Thanks to your wife for accomodating us maski makukulit kami. ;D
Kinulang nga yata bote ng red wine. ;D ;D
Next time, bili ako lambanog. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 03, 2009 at 08:54 PM
Cheers Sir Mark!
Thanks again for your graciousness and hospitality for having us :D By the way, iyak yung Scottish Friend po ninyo? ;D ;D ;D
Yup. Yumaman ako kay Pacquiao at sa yabang na Scottish friend ko. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 03, 2009 at 08:58 PM
Sarap bumisita uli, laging meron improvement sa HT mo . . . laging may bago sa setup. This time the new 133" screen w/ 2.8 gain matching the new projector lamp & the extra digm sub. Ayus talaga.
As always, thanks for your generosity sir Mark.
Sana nga meron din SVS & Velo sa shootout (di ko nadala sa akin ;D) Meron ba round 2?
The big difference sa pq was because of the new pj lamp. Mabuti at nakahanap ako ng mura na lamp.
With the sq, the difference was the SVS AS-EQ1 for the subs and probably the PSB Synchrony One speakers.
Hirap makaisip ng bagong upgrade ... probably the new Audyssey technology which adds 4 speakers para maging 11.1. :) :)
Post by: John E. on May 03, 2009 at 10:43 PM
naku! magsisisi ka pag pinakawalan mo yan sir mark!!! collectors item yan! wala ka nang makikita niyan! ikaw din!
;D ;D ;D
sige na please mag sched naman kayo ulit!
+1 A-Audio speakers naman VS branded ;D
Post by: John E. on May 03, 2009 at 10:45 PM
Sarap bumisita uli, laging meron improvement sa HT mo . . . laging may bago sa setup. This time the new 133" screen w/ 2.8 gain matching the new projector lamp & the extra digm sub. Ayus talaga.
As always, thanks for your generosity sir Mark.
Sana nga meron din SVS & Velo sa shootout (di ko nadala sa akin ;D) Meron ba round 2?
;D pagnda ng paganda! yung surrounds ang ganda ng tunog ayaw lang sabihin ni sir mark kung saan napunta yung FS na surround ;)
and padami ng padami yung drinks ;D
Post by: John E. on May 03, 2009 at 11:16 PM
Miz ka talaga namin. In fact, lapit ko na pinagpalit ang South Border CD with the speakers of DIY_master. Pumapayag na nga sya pero *precious* talaga yun sa akin kaya d ko na tinuloy. ;D
uu jake miss ka talaga namin naalala nga kita lalo nung inuman na :D
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Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 04, 2009 at 07:08 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on May 04, 2009 at 07:31 AM
Kinulang nga yata bote ng red wine. ;D ;D
Next time, bili ako lambanog. ;D
Ayus! Mas mura na, may matitira pa para sa pulutan. ;D Pero...di na tayo sosyal! :-\
Post by: John E. on May 04, 2009 at 10:08 PM
naku po! pero siguro ok lang naman kayo. nakuha niyo ba yung libre nilang imodium? pag bumili ka kasi ng ganyan may pinamimigay silang imodium eh. >:(
pero jake isang lata lang ang nakita ko! isa lang ang uminom hmmm...sino kaya yun ??? ::) :D
Post by: John E. on May 04, 2009 at 10:11 PM
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nagalit nga si doc nung nakita eto reaksyon nya! "sino ang imunom ng coke!" ;D
(mukang yung nasa likod)
LOL
peace bro!
Post by: John E. on May 04, 2009 at 10:12 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on May 05, 2009 at 07:30 PM
sched tayo ulit :)
antayin natin yung cylinder ultra.
Yan ang gusto kong marinig! Go go go Mike C! ;)
Post by: nerveblocker on May 05, 2009 at 07:40 PM
Aba! Matinding candid shot yan ah! Ang sabi ko dyan "wow ubos na ang wine pero ang Coke di nagagalaw" ;D
Libre naman dyan pareng Jake! :D
Si Vhon mukhang iniisip ano itatake home na gears ah...o baka naman nasa audio nirvana?
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 05, 2009 at 08:54 PM
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Aba! Matinding candid shot yan ah! Ang sabi ko dyan "wow ubos na ang wine pero ang Coke di nagagalaw" ;D
Libre naman dyan pareng Jake! :D
Si Vhon mukhang iniisip ano itatake home na gears ah...o baka naman nasa audio nirvana?
bwahahaha! nice one doc mel! ;)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 05, 2009 at 08:56 PM
pero jake isang lata lang ang nakita ko! isa lang ang uminom hmmm...sino kaya yun ??? ::) :D
sino yun? sino yun? nakita niyo ba kung sino pumasok sa banyo at sumakit ang tiyan? siya yun!
Post by: nerveblocker on May 06, 2009 at 12:11 AM
sino yun? sino yun? nakita niyo ba kung sino pumasok sa banyo at sumakit ang tiyan? siya yun!
Nagkaroon ata ng gas sa tyan kaya utot ng utot.... ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 31, 2009 at 02:01 AM
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Post by: iiinas on May 31, 2009 at 07:29 AM
Post by: jojitv on May 31, 2009 at 07:41 AM
Post by: mike c on May 31, 2009 at 12:45 PM
thanks for coming sir DTS!
jojitv, this won't be the last - maybe next time. :D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 31, 2009 at 01:21 PM
pleasure's mine sir mike. dts na lang, i'm not worthy ;D
ayan, meron pa daw next time.
Post by: streetsmart on May 31, 2009 at 01:48 PM
1. Streetsmart
2. Mike C
3. Iiinas
4. Macdon
5. Vtec3
6. Chris69ners
7. Lil_Kat
8. Anchit
9. dts-hd
10. DIY_Master
11. Friend of Anthony
12. Pchin
13. Ernie
14. Waxx
15. Jay2
16. Gearhead000
17. JollibeeMcdonald
I hope I didn't miss anyone.
I think we achieved our objective. Listened to the 2 SVS ULtras, which can go as low as 16 hz. D mo na marinig yun but you can certainly feel it. I thought that my HT was cured of rattling but the Ultras shook something again. :( :( Ang lalim.
And the combo of the Ultras with the Proac clone was heavenly. :) :) Sana pumayag na si bro Macdon sa blind test ng clone vs orig. ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 31, 2009 at 02:23 PM
And the combo of the Ultras with the Proac clone was heavenly. :) :) Sana pumayag na si bro Macdon sa blind test ng clone vs orig. ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
Post by: anchit on May 31, 2009 at 08:28 PM
;D ;D ;D
papayag daw si macdon pag pumayag ka daw sir Mark sa PSB mo., ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 31, 2009 at 09:42 PM
papayag daw si macdon pag pumayag ka daw sir Mark sa PSB mo., ;D
isa pang magandang i-clone! bwahaha! ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 31, 2009 at 09:47 PM
hahaha . . . floorstander naman, ginagawa na yata yung svs clone.
Post by: markcrenz on May 31, 2009 at 10:12 PM
hahaha . . . floorstander naman, ginagawa na yata yung svs clone.proac... psb... svs... attack of the clones!
some shots from yesterday's EB, thanks once again sir Mark! and also to MikeC for letting us hear those much talked about ultras . . . fast, accurate and musical. I'm now a believer.di ko namalayan tong eb na to ah :(
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 31, 2009 at 11:02 PM
joke lang yun hehe mahihirapan daw i-clone yung svs wala siguro papayag magpa-baklas o magpa-bukas ng kanilang precious subs. so, lets go orig. and support MKC Int'l.
Post by: macdon on May 31, 2009 at 11:27 PM
Cge, pagawa natin kay Anthony yung stage ng blind test.....dapat pati tayo naka blind fold ha :D ;D
Kaso busy ata si Anthony ngayon sa clone sub eh :D ;D
But seriously, due to the request of our grandmaster host na si sir Mark - Anthony will be making a 5.1 HT speakers for next month's EB.......hindi ko lang alam kung anong sub ang gagawin nya. ;D
Post by: markcrenz on May 31, 2009 at 11:33 PM
Hahahaha - gusto nyo talaga ng blind test ha :D ;D ayaw nyo kasi ako paniwalaan eh......sabi ko naman the clones are betterer eh :D :D ;Dayos yan tapos launch na rin ng hybrid ni master plumber jojoD. e paano kaya kung may tube 5.1 na? mmm!!!
Cge, pagawa natin kay Anthony yung stage ng blind test.....dapat pati tayo naka blind fold ha :D ;D
Kaso busy ata si Anthony ngayon sa clone sub eh :D ;D
But seriously, due to the request of our grandmaster host na si sir Mark - Anthony will be making a 5.1 HT speakers for next month's EB.......hindi ko lang alam kung anong sub ang gagawin nya. ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 31, 2009 at 11:46 PM
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Cge, pagawa natin kay Anthony yung stage ng blind test.....dapat pati tayo naka blind fold ha :D ;D
ayus pumayag na, makakarinig na din ng proac sa wakas.
kahit naka-blind fold na, nakatalikod pa ayus lang :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 01, 2009 at 01:17 AM
Thanks to everyone who came. Marami rin di nakarating cuz of the rains but we still had a good attendance:
1. Streetsmart
2. Mike C
3. Iiinas
4. Macdon
5. Vtec3
6. Chris69ners
7. Lil_Kat
8. Anchit
9. dts-hd
10. DIY_Master
11. Friend of Anthony
12. Pchin
13. Ernie
14. Waxx
15. Jay2
16. Gearhead000
17. JollibeeMcdonald
I hope I didn't miss anyone.
I think we achieved our objective. Listened to the 2 SVS ULtras, which can go as low as 16 hz. D mo na marinig yun but you can certainly feel it. I thought that my HT was cured of rattling but the Ultras shook something again. :( :( Ang lalim.
sorry bro absent ako :(
hirap ako sa pag-aaral, biglaan kasi yung lipat ko kaya kailangan ko pa mag-aral :(
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And the combo of the Ultras with the Proac clone was heavenly. :) :) Sana pumayag na si bro Macdon sa blind test ng clone vs orig. ;D ;D
eto for sure pag nag materialize makakasama nako :D
Post by: John E. on Jun 01, 2009 at 03:13 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 01, 2009 at 06:52 AM
Hahahaha - gusto nyo talaga ng blind test ha :D ;D ayaw nyo kasi ako paniwalaan eh......sabi ko naman the clones are betterer eh :D :D ;D
Cge, pagawa natin kay Anthony yung stage ng blind test.....dapat pati tayo naka blind fold ha :D ;D
Kaso busy ata si Anthony ngayon sa clone sub eh :D ;D
But seriously, due to the request of our grandmaster host na si sir Mark - Anthony will be making a 5.1 HT speakers for next month's EB.......hindi ko lang alam kung anong sub ang gagawin nya. ;D
Hay salamat at pumayag ka na rin sa blind test!! ;D ;D
Sa palagay ko, pwede na gamitin ang subs ko sa DIY EB. 7 speakers na lang supply ni Anthony. 2 na kasi ang sub EB natin, sobra nakakapagod sa tenga. Kahit magbuhat ng subs paakyat, ang hirap.
Post by: anchit on Jun 01, 2009 at 09:10 AM
Hahahaha - gusto nyo talaga ng blind test ha :D ;D ayaw nyo kasi ako paniwalaan eh......sabi ko naman the clones are betterer eh :D :D ;D
Cge, pagawa natin kay Anthony yung stage ng blind test.....dapat pati tayo naka blind fold ha :D ;D
Kaso busy ata si Anthony ngayon sa clone sub eh :D ;D
But seriously, due to the request of our grandmaster host na si sir Mark - Anthony will be making a 5.1 HT speakers for next month's EB.......hindi ko lang alam kung anong sub ang gagawin nya. ;D
pag ito nagmaterialise magkakadispose-an ng gamit, kasama nako dudn.
Post by: macdon on Jun 01, 2009 at 09:19 AM
Hay salamat at pumayag ka na rin sa blind test!! ;D ;D
Sa palagay ko, pwede na gamitin ang subs ko sa DIY EB. 7 speakers na lang supply ni Anthony. 2 na kasi ang sub EB natin, sobra nakakapagod sa tenga. Kahit magbuhat ng subs paakyat, ang hirap.
Bossing Mark - sa dalas ng EB sa inyo, isa nalang na upgrade ang kailangan jan - elevator! hahahahaha :D ;D
Anthony makes & markets subs - so its up to him if he wants to include one in his repertoire to complete a HT speaker setup. But if time & budget doesnt permit, I could possibly lend the Kappa box sub project that Anthony is building for me at the moment. ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jun 01, 2009 at 09:32 AM
kahapon pala to! sayang!
busy ksi ako kela richee kahapon! hehehehehe......... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 01, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Anthony makes & markets subs - so its up to him if he wants to include one in his repertoire to complete a HT speaker setup. But if time & budget doesnt permit, I could possibly lend the Kappa box sub project that Anthony is building for me at the moment. ;)
Wag na lang. Si Anthony din ang una nagsabi sa akin na subs ko na lang ang gamitin.
Nag-txt na kami ni Anthony. Kakapagod din kasi makinig lagi ng mga materials for sub. We'll just lower the crossovers siguro and then listen to material that focuses on the upper bass frequencies and up.
We will use 7 speakers. 4 ang surrounds.
Post by: iiinas on Jun 01, 2009 at 01:06 PM
Wag na lang. Si Anthony din ang una nagsabi sa akin na subs ko na lang ang gamitin.
Nag-txt na kami ni Anthony. Kakapagod din kasi makinig lagi ng mga materials for sub. We'll just lower the crossovers siguro and then listen to material that focuses on the upper bass frequencies and up.
We will use 7 speakers. 4 ang surrounds.
this will be great! ;D
Post by: macdon on Jun 01, 2009 at 04:00 PM
Wag na lang. Si Anthony din ang una nagsabi sa akin na subs ko na lang ang gamitin.
Nag-txt na kami ni Anthony. Kakapagod din kasi makinig lagi ng mga materials for sub. We'll just lower the crossovers siguro and then listen to material that focuses on the upper bass frequencies and up.
We will use 7 speakers. 4 ang surrounds.
Whew! That certainly was a relief ;D Its mind boggling enough how to bring up a 6 cubic feet sub box to your Ht room with my bad back :D ;D
Post by: ESi on Jun 01, 2009 at 04:14 PM
It was raining SO HARD! :P Bumaha doon sa LETRE ROAD kaya di na kami tumuloy...sa sobrang inggit ??? ko at inis >:( nagpunta na lang kami ni kumander sa trinoma at nag SPA. :D hehehe. I believe that the ULTRAs had the same effect though!!! ;) I hope to join you guys the next time. Are the dual servos for sale? hehehe ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 01, 2009 at 05:48 PM
Sir Mark at al,
It was raining SO HARD! :P Bumaha doon sa LETRE ROAD kaya di na kami tumuloy...sa sobrang inggit ??? ko at inis >:( nagpunta na lang kami ni kumander sa trinoma at nag SPA. :D hehehe. I believe that the ULTRAs had the same effect though!!! ;) I hope to join you guys the next time. Are the dual servos for sale? hehehe ;D
Hi Angelo! Yes, we missed you. Lots of guys couldn't make it nga dahil sa baha.
Tanong mo na lang si Mike C bout the dual servos.
See u next time! :)
Post by: muhlach on Jun 03, 2009 at 08:29 AM
Post by: deo on Jun 03, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Post by: dvdaddict2009 on Jul 17, 2009 at 07:18 AM
some shots from yesterday's EB, thanks once again sir Mark! and also to MikeC for letting us hear those much talked about ultras . . . fast, accurate and musical. I'm now a believer.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3652/3579231792_33ca7aaa0c.jpg?v=0)
Gearhead is in the house!!! You're THE MAN! ;D :o
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 03, 2009 at 07:44 AM
Why is “room correction” important? That is because no matter how good our equipment is, we listen to it in a particular room and that room (its dimensions, furniture, acoustic treatment or lack of it) will adversely affect the reproduction of sound, especially as it is perceived by the listener. For example, one hears the direct sound from the speakers but then one will also hear the reflected sound as the sound waves bounce against the walls, floors and ceilings - this tends to “muddy” the sound. Also, the dimensions of the room will cause certain frequencies to resonate and sound much stronger than others – these resonant frequencies tend to overpower the other frequencies and make them less clear; you hear less detail.
The AS-EQ1 uses Audyssey MultEQ technology. While some may dismiss MultEQ as just another one of those parametric equalizers, it really is much more than that. I would summarize the features of MultEQ, including its application in the AS-EQ1, as follows:
1. Similar to the function of a parametric equalizer, it flattens the frequency response of your speakers, albeit in a more or less automatic way. You just need to know a couple of tips on where to set the mic and adjust the subwoofer volumes, and there is a huge “Audyssey Set-up Guide” over at AVS Forum for this purpose. As contrasted to the typical parametric equalizer, however, MultEQ uses an Infinite Impulse Response (IIR) filter as opposed to the typical Finite Impulse Response (FIR) filter. Also, while most parameteric equalizers use a maximum of 9 adjustable bands, MultEQ uses hundreds of taps to produce its filter, thus making it more precise. The flattening of the frequency response has a huge effect on sound quality. It provides more detail and widens the sound stage. When you flatten the frequency response of subwoofers, you may also be surprised that a side effect is that the sound from all your other speakers seems to improve. This is because if your bass is not flat, it can get really loud and then drown out the sound from the mids and highs.
2. MultEQ significantly reduces “ringing” by applying a correction filter, not only for the frequency but also for the time domain. “Ringing” is a phenomenon similar to “ringing a bell.” When you ring a bell, you hear its sound for a very long time because it continues to vibrate (unless you put your hand on it). The same thing happens with sound in a typical room. The energy of certain frequencies (especially bass) will tend to stay in the room for a long time and this is an inaccurate reproduction of that sound. Furthermore, it will contribute to the drowning out of the other frequencies. When you hit a note in a bass guitar and you release your fingers, you should stop hearing sound. If you continue to hear sound because of “ringing”, that is inaccurate. When you reduce “ringing,” the bass notes sound much “tighter.” The sound of the bass drum should be strong, immediate and then stop; it shouldn’t sound “bloated.” MultEQ works like magic in reducing “ringing.”
3. MultEQ provides the accurate distances of each speaker to the listener. This is very important so that the AVR sets the proper delays for the signals to each speaker, which results in the sounds from all speakers arriving to the ears of the listener at the same time. This may sound very simple but for subwoofers, it is not simple at all. The reason is that subwoofers often have internal circuitry which causes a delay in the reproduction of the signal. Thus, the “acoustic” distance of the subwoofer may be farther than its physical distance and this difference may easily be in the area of 6 to 8 feet (which would be a difference in time of 6 to 8 milliseconds, and that’s audible). Without MultEQ, I’m really not sure how one would know the actual “acoustic” distance of the subwoofer and if you don’t get it right, you have that phenomenon of a “slow” sub (the bass notes are delayed). You often hear people say that this sub is “slow” and that sub is “fast.” I think what they really should say is that the subs have differing electronics which add different delays to the sound and which should therefore be properly compensated at the AVR.
4. MultEQ also provides the accurate levels for the various speakers so that their volumes are balanced. This is a relatively simple task for ordinary speakers if you have an SPL meter but not so for subwoofers, which are notoriously difficult to get right. Using an ordinary SPL meter, the reading for the subwoofer may easily be 6 db wrong, and that’s a huge number.
The SVS AS-EQ1 provides all of these MultEQ features, with the addition of its having at least double the filters of ordinary AVR’s, and its capability to handle 2 subs (or more). Setting up two subs, especially if they are not co-located or they are of different brands/models, is very difficult to get right. The AS-EQ1 makes this process rather simple. In my case, I actually have four (4) subwoofers which are grouped into two (2) adjacent pairs. Finally, similar to the AVR versions of MultEQ, the SVS AS-EQ1 requires you to set up a microphone and “ping” the speakers at different positions. While the typical MultEQ AVR version can do 8 positions, the SVS AS-EQ1 allows you to use up to 32 mic positions, which thus results in a more accurate reading of the room characteristics and consequently a more accurate filter.
The procedure for setting up the AS-EQ1 is quite simple, especially if you are used to the MultEQ technology. Lately, there has been some confusion about matching the levels between the subwoofers and the other speakers but this has largely been sorted out at the AVS Forum thread on the AS-EQ1.
How does my system sound with the AS-EQ1? I think that the improvement has been pretty phenomenal although I guess that some of it has to do with my having 4 subwoofers, because that gives me a lot of flexibility. The AS-EQ1 also makes it easier to experiment with sub positions. The AS-EQ1 shows you the frequency room before and after calibration. Too many people have posted these graphs so I won't bother. Let's just say that the response is nearly perfectly flat from 20 hz to 100 hz, which is perfect for me.
I have always preferred to judge bass quality with music material, rather than movies (explosions, bullets, cannons) because normal people are more familiar with music. We know what a bass guitar or a double bass or bassoon sounds like. I’m not sure many of us have heard a 50-calibre machine gun in real life. Thus, my favorite test material for bass is the HD-DVD of the concert of Cream at the Royal Albert Music Hall in 2005, track 12 (Stormy Monday), starting at 62:45. This is a pretty amazing sequence because Jack Bruce plays a bass guitar sequence, stepping through notes for up to 2 octaves. If those notes have an even sound, the frequency response is pretty flat – and with the AS-EQ1, the notes were incredibly equal in volume. This same track also shows Jack Bruce doing some effects, basically vibrating his fingers. This is quite common for lead guitars and its quite easy to hear the effect in the higher frequencies but for bass guitars, it’s very difficult to notice the effect. With the AS-EQ1, you could ever hear even that nuance – the detail is amazing. Finally, also on the same track, the drummer (Ginger Baker) has some loud thwacks on his drums and with the AS-EQ1, it sounds so tight, with very diminished “ringing.”
Having said this, how does movie material sound? My latest reference is the Bluray of the Incredible Hulk, the scene which includes the pulse cannons. That sequence has a large variety of deep and rich bass sounds – Hulk’s hand hitting glass, Hulk’s feet stomping on the ground, armalite rifles, 50-calibre machine guns, Apache helicopter cannons, pulse cannons, all sorts of crashes, etc. Let’s just say that with the SVS AS-EQ1, you can feel tremendous bass volume and depth. It is so strong that the room pressurizes so you can feel the bass. Yet, you can still hear a lot of other sounds clearly, including dialogue. The bass is balanced, it doesn’t overpower the other frequencies.
Overall, the SVS AS-EQ1 is a great product. Worth every cent.
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 03, 2009 at 11:12 AM
Last April, I was fortunate to be one of the first in the world (thanks to Mike C and to the proximity of the Philippines to Taiwan!) to get hold of an SVS AS-EQ1. This device provides “room correction” technology that is focused on subwoofers.nice read bro :)
Why is “room correction” important? That is because no matter how good our equipment is, we listen to it in a particular room and that room (its dimensions, furniture, acoustic treatment or lack of it) will adversely affect the reproduction of sound, especially as it is perceived by the listener. For example, one hears the direct sound from the speakers but then one will also hear the reflected sound as the sound waves bounce against the walls, floors and ceilings - this tends to “muddy” the sound. Also, the dimensions of the room will cause certain frequencies to resonate and sound much stronger than others – these resonant frequencies tend to overpower the other frequencies and make them less clear; you hear less detail.
The AS-EQ1 uses Audyssey MultEQ technology. While some may dismiss MultEQ as just another one of those parametric equalizers, it really is much more than that. I would summarize the features of MultEQ, including its application in the AS-EQ1, as follows:
1. Similar to the function of a parametric equalizer, it flattens the frequency response of your speakers, albeit in a more or less automatic way. You just need to know a couple of tips on where to set the mic and adjust the subwoofer volumes, and there is a huge “Audyssey Set-up Guide” over at AVS Forum for this purpose. As contrasted to the typical parametric equalizer, however, MultEQ uses an Infinite Impulse Response (IIR) filter as opposed to the typical Finite Impulse Response (FIR) filter. Also, while most parameteric equalizers use a maximum of 9 adjustable bands, MultEQ uses hundreds of taps to produce its filter, thus making it more precise. The flattening of the frequency response has a huge effect on sound quality. It provides more detail and widens the sound stage. When you flatten the frequency response of subwoofers, you may also be surprised that a side effect is that the sound from all your other speakers seems to improve. This is because if your bass is not flat, it can get really loud and then drown out the sound from the mids and highs.
2. MultEQ significantly reduces “ringing” by applying a correction filter, not only for the frequency but also for the time domain. “Ringing” is a phenomenon similar to “ringing a bell.” When you ring a bell, you hear its sound for a very long time because it continues to vibrate (unless you put your hand on it). The same thing happens with sound in a typical room. The energy of certain frequencies (especially bass) will tend to stay in the room for a long time and this is an inaccurate reproduction of that sound. Furthermore, it will contribute to the drowning out of the other frequencies. When you hit a note in a bass guitar and you release your fingers, you should stop hearing sound. If you continue to hear sound because of “ringing”, that is inaccurate. When you reduce “ringing,” the bass notes sound much “tighter.” The sound of the bass drum should be strong, immediate and then stop; it shouldn’t sound “bloated.” MultEQ works like magic in reducing “ringing.”
3. MultEQ provides the accurate distances of each speaker to the listener. This is very important so that the AVR sets the proper delays for the signals to each speaker, which results in the sounds from all speakers arriving to the ears of the listener at the same time. This may sound very simple but for subwoofers, it is not simple at all. The reason is that subwoofers often have internal circuitry which causes a delay in the reproduction of the signal. Thus, the “acoustic” distance of the subwoofer may be farther than its physical distance and this difference may easily be in the area of 6 to 8 feet (which would be a difference in time of 6 to 8 milliseconds, and that’s audible). Without MultEQ, I’m really not sure how one would know the actual “acoustic” distance of the subwoofer and if you don’t get it right, you have that phenomenon of a “slow” sub (the bass notes are delayed). You often hear people say that this sub is “slow” and that sub is “fast.” I think what they really should say is that the subs have differing electronics which add different delays to the sound and which should therefore be properly compensated at the AVR.
4. MultEQ also provides the accurate levels for the various speakers so that their volumes are balanced. This is a relatively simple task for ordinary speakers if you have an SPL meter but not so for subwoofers, which are notoriously difficult to get right. Using an ordinary SPL meter, the reading for the subwoofer may easily be 6 db wrong, and that’s a huge number.
The SVS AS-EQ1 provides all of these MultEQ features, with the addition of its having at least double the filters of ordinary AVR’s, and its capability to handle 2 subs (or more). Setting up two subs, especially if they are not co-located or they are of different brands/models, is very difficult to get right. The AS-EQ1 makes this process rather simple. In my case, I actually have four (4) subwoofers which are grouped into two (2) adjacent pairs. Finally, similar to the AVR versions of MultEQ, the SVS AS-EQ1 requires you to set up a microphone and “ping” the speakers at different positions. While the typical MultEQ AVR version can do 8 positions, the SVS AS-EQ1 allows you to use up to 32 mic positions, which thus results in a more accurate reading of the room characteristics and consequently a more accurate filter.
The procedure for setting up the AS-EQ1 is quite simple, especially if you are used to the MultEQ technology. Lately, there has been some confusion about matching the levels between the subwoofers and the other speakers but this has largely been sorted out at the AVS Forum thread on the AS-EQ1.
How does my system sound with the AS-EQ1? I think that the improvement has been pretty phenomenal although I guess that some of it has to do with my having 4 subwoofers, because that gives me a lot of flexibility. The AS-EQ1 also makes it easier to experiment with sub positions. The AS-EQ1 shows you the frequency room before and after calibration. Too many people have posted these graphs so I won't bother. Let's just say that the response is nearly perfectly flat from 20 hz to 100 hz, which is perfect for me.
I have always preferred to judge bass quality with music material, rather than movies (explosions, bullets, cannons) because normal people are more familiar with music. We know what a bass guitar or a double bass or bassoon sounds like. I’m not sure many of us have heard a 50-calibre machine gun in real life. Thus, my favorite test material for bass is the HD-DVD of the concert of Cream at the Royal Albert Music Hall in 2005, track 12 (Stormy Monday), starting at 62:45. This is a pretty amazing sequence because Jack Bruce plays a bass guitar sequence, stepping through notes for up to 2 octaves. If those notes have an even sound, the frequency response is pretty flat – and with the AS-EQ1, the notes were incredibly equally equal in volume. This same track also shows Jack Bruce doing some effects, basically vibrating his fingers. This is quite common for lead guitars and its quite easy to hear the effect in the higher frequencies but for bass guitars, it’s very difficult to notice the effect. With the AS-EQ1, you could ever hear even that nuance – the detail is amazing. Finally, also on the same track, the drummer (Ginger Baker) has some loud thwacks on his drums and with the AS-EQ1, it sounds so tight, with very diminished “ringing.”
Having said this, how does movie material sound? My latest reference is the Bluray of the Incredible Hulk, the scene which includes the pulse cannons. That sequence has a large variety of deep and rich bass sounds – Hulk’s hand hitting glass, Hulk’s feet stomping on the ground, armalite rifles, 50-calibre machine guns, Apache helicopter cannons, pulse cannons, all sorts of crashes, etc. Let’s just say that with the SVS AS-EQ1, you can feel tremendous bass volume and depth. It is so strong that the room pressurizes so you can feel the bass. Yet, you can still hear a lot of other sounds clearly, including dialogue. The bass is balanced, it doesn’t overpower the other frequencies.
learned new things again today ;D
Post by: mike c on Oct 03, 2009 at 11:37 PM
i'll make sure to inform you as soon as a new firmware is available :)
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 04, 2009 at 07:58 AM
great review sir mark!
i'll make sure to inform you as soon as a new firmware is available :)
Thanks. Actually, matagal ko na pinag-iisipan at ginagawa ang review. Kahapon ko lang natapos. Utang ko ito sa iyo.
Next review -- PB12-NSD.
Post by: alvinh on Oct 04, 2009 at 12:40 PM
Last April, I was fortunate to be one of the first in the world (thanks to Mike C and to the proximity of the Philippines to Taiwan!) to get hold of an SVS AS-EQ1. This device provides “room correction” technology that is focused on subwoofers.
Why is “room correction” important? That is because no matter how good our equipment is, we listen to it in a particular room and that room (its dimensions, furniture, acoustic treatment or lack of it) will adversely affect the reproduction of sound, especially as it is perceived by the listener. For example, one hears the direct sound from the speakers but then one will also hear the reflected sound as the sound waves bounce against the walls, floors and ceilings - this tends to “muddy” the sound. Also, the dimensions of the room will cause certain frequencies to resonate and sound much stronger than others – these resonant frequencies tend to overpower the other frequencies and make them less clear; you hear less detail.
The AS-EQ1 uses Audyssey MultEQ technology. While some may dismiss MultEQ as just another one of those parametric equalizers, it really is much more than that. I would summarize the features of MultEQ, including its application in the AS-EQ1, as follows:
1. Similar to the function of a parametric equalizer, it flattens the frequency response of your speakers, albeit in a more or less automatic way. You just need to know a couple of tips on where to set the mic and adjust the subwoofer volumes, and there is a huge “Audyssey Set-up Guide” over at AVS Forum for this purpose. As contrasted to the typical parametric equalizer, however, MultEQ uses an Infinite Impulse Response (IIR) filter as opposed to the typical Finite Impulse Response (FIR) filter. Also, while most parameteric equalizers use a maximum of 9 adjustable bands, MultEQ uses hundreds of taps to produce its filter, thus making it more precise. The flattening of the frequency response has a huge effect on sound quality. It provides more detail and widens the sound stage. When you flatten the frequency response of subwoofers, you may also be surprised that a side effect is that the sound from all your other speakers seems to improve. This is because if your bass is not flat, it can get really loud and then drown out the sound from the mids and highs.
2. MultEQ significantly reduces “ringing” by applying a correction filter, not only for the frequency but also for the time domain. “Ringing” is a phenomenon similar to “ringing a bell.” When you ring a bell, you hear its sound for a very long time because it continues to vibrate (unless you put your hand on it). The same thing happens with sound in a typical room. The energy of certain frequencies (especially bass) will tend to stay in the room for a long time and this is an inaccurate reproduction of that sound. Furthermore, it will contribute to the drowning out of the other frequencies. When you hit a note in a bass guitar and you release your fingers, you should stop hearing sound. If you continue to hear sound because of “ringing”, that is inaccurate. When you reduce “ringing,” the bass notes sound much “tighter.” The sound of the bass drum should be strong, immediate and then stop; it shouldn’t sound “bloated.” MultEQ works like magic in reducing “ringing.”
3. MultEQ provides the accurate distances of each speaker to the listener. This is very important so that the AVR sets the proper delays for the signals to each speaker, which results in the sounds from all speakers arriving to the ears of the listener at the same time. This may sound very simple but for subwoofers, it is not simple at all. The reason is that subwoofers often have internal circuitry which causes a delay in the reproduction of the signal. Thus, the “acoustic” distance of the subwoofer may be farther than its physical distance and this difference may easily be in the area of 6 to 8 feet (which would be a difference in time of 6 to 8 milliseconds, and that’s audible). Without MultEQ, I’m really not sure how one would know the actual “acoustic” distance of the subwoofer and if you don’t get it right, you have that phenomenon of a “slow” sub (the bass notes are delayed). You often hear people say that this sub is “slow” and that sub is “fast.” I think what they really should say is that the subs have differing electronics which add different delays to the sound and which should therefore be properly compensated at the AVR.
4. MultEQ also provides the accurate levels for the various speakers so that their volumes are balanced. This is a relatively simple task for ordinary speakers if you have an SPL meter but not so for subwoofers, which are notoriously difficult to get right. Using an ordinary SPL meter, the reading for the subwoofer may easily be 6 db wrong, and that’s a huge number.
The SVS AS-EQ1 provides all of these MultEQ features, with the addition of its having at least double the filters of ordinary AVR’s, and its capability to handle 2 subs (or more). Setting up two subs, especially if they are not co-located or they are of different brands/models, is very difficult to get right. The AS-EQ1 makes this process rather simple. In my case, I actually have four (4) subwoofers which are grouped into two (2) adjacent pairs. Finally, similar to the AVR versions of MultEQ, the SVS AS-EQ1 requires you to set up a microphone and “ping” the speakers at different positions. While the typical MultEQ AVR version can do 8 positions, the SVS AS-EQ1 allows you to use up to 32 mic positions, which thus results in a more accurate reading of the room characteristics and consequently a more accurate filter.
The procedure for setting up the AS-EQ1 is quite simple, especially if you are used to the MultEQ technology. Lately, there has been some confusion about matching the levels between the subwoofers and the other speakers but this has largely been sorted out at the AVS Forum thread on the AS-EQ1.
How does my system sound with the AS-EQ1? I think that the improvement has been pretty phenomenal although I guess that some of it has to do with my having 4 subwoofers, because that gives me a lot of flexibility. The AS-EQ1 also makes it easier to experiment with sub positions. The AS-EQ1 shows you the frequency room before and after calibration. Too many people have posted these graphs so I won't bother. Let's just say that the response is nearly perfectly flat from 20 hz to 100 hz, which is perfect for me.
I have always preferred to judge bass quality with music material, rather than movies (explosions, bullets, cannons) because normal people are more familiar with music. We know what a bass guitar or a double bass or bassoon sounds like. I’m not sure many of us have heard a 50-calibre machine gun in real life. Thus, my favorite test material for bass is the HD-DVD of the concert of Cream at the Royal Albert Music Hall in 2005, track 12 (Stormy Monday), starting at 62:45. This is a pretty amazing sequence because Jack Bruce plays a bass guitar sequence, stepping through notes for up to 2 octaves. If those notes have an even sound, the frequency response is pretty flat – and with the AS-EQ1, the notes were incredibly equally equal in volume. This same track also shows Jack Bruce doing some effects, basically vibrating his fingers. This is quite common for lead guitars and its quite easy to hear the effect in the higher frequencies but for bass guitars, it’s very difficult to notice the effect. With the AS-EQ1, you could ever hear even that nuance – the detail is amazing. Finally, also on the same track, the drummer (Ginger Baker) has some loud thwacks on his drums and with the AS-EQ1, it sounds so tight, with very diminished “ringing.”
Having said this, how does movie material sound? My latest reference is the Bluray of the Incredible Hulk, the scene which includes the pulse cannons. That sequence has a large variety of deep and rich bass sounds – Hulk’s hand hitting glass, Hulk’s feet stomping on the ground, armalite rifles, 50-calibre machine guns, Apache helicopter cannons, pulse cannons, all sorts of crashes, etc. Let’s just say that with the SVS AS-EQ1, you can feel tremendous bass volume and depth. It is so strong that the room pressurizes so you can feel the bass. Yet, you can still hear a lot of other sounds clearly, including dialogue. The bass is balanced, it doesn’t overpower the other frequencies.
Great reviews Sir Mark!
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 05, 2009 at 09:41 AM
Great reviews Sir Mark!
;D
Thanks, Alvin! It took me a long time to write that review. Meron pang ibang review na darating. :) :)
Post by: alvinh on Oct 05, 2009 at 10:35 AM
Thanks, Alvin! It took me a long time to write that review. Meron pang ibang review na darating. :) :)
Favor naman Sir Mark...if you get a chance, please PM your graph to me...the one that shows your 20hz to 100hz range.
TIA Chief. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 05, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Favor naman Sir Mark...if you get a chance, please PM your graph to me...the one that shows your 20hz to 100hz range.
TIA Chief. ;D
I will need to learn how to do that ... But basically, it's almost completely flat for that entire range.
I'm not really excited about it because its not really an actual graph of the post-eq. Its a theoretical graph of some kind of average of the mic positions. In any case, some people have done actual graphs which confirm the theoretical graph.
Also, the frequency response curve is only one indication of the sq. In fact, if you do only one mic position with Audyssey, the curve will be perfectly flat but will sound bad.
At the end of the day, the main thing is the listening test. You should be able to hear the distinct improvement.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 06, 2009 at 03:48 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/SVSsub2.jpg)
This makes my fourth subwoofer, and you might wonder why I have so many. It’s not because I like to collect subs, it’s just that the more the subs, the better the bass. Of all the sound frequencies, the most difficult to tame is bass. Firstly, you have to contend with room modes, which are dependent on the dimensions of the room. Each room mode can give you a huge bass peak which drowns out the rest of the frequencies, including dialogue. Second, the bass frequencies are more prone to audible “ringing” or a slow decay of the sound because it is bouncing around your room. This tends to “muddy” the sound, the opposite of a “tight” bass.
It’s long been determined that the more subs you have, the flatter will be your frequency response because there is a tendency for the peak of one sub to cancel out the dip of another sub. There have also been a lot of experiments as to the best locations for 2 subs and for 4 subs. At the end of the day, however, there are many other constraints which prevent you from selecting just any location for your subs. In my case, I can’t really locate my subs at the rear because when we have an EB, most people stay at the back and they would be too close to the subs at the rear. In the end, I put the Velo at the right corner and the Paradigm beside it, while the other Paradigm is at the left corner with the SVS beside it. There are various opinions on whether or not it is advisable to locate a sub at a corner. In my case, I determined that with just one sub, it’s not good. With 3 subs, you can locate one at the corner and with 4 subs, you can locate 2 subs at the corners. You just need to experiment in your particular room.
I previously had just one sub for my big HT (volume of more than 6500 cubic feet) – a Velodyne HGS-15 sealed sub. It’s a pretty good sub but with the size of the room, the bass was anemic. You know that your bass is powerful when your seat vibrates. You know that your bass kicks ass when it pressurizes the room and you feel your pants move.
So, I bought a 2nd big sealed sub – a Paradigm Servo-15 V2. With a 2nd sub, I distinctly recall that it flattened the frequency response so that the bass frequencies were more even in volume. Also, I could finally feel my seat vibrating. At this time, I also installed seven (7) big broadband absorbers in the HT and this tightened the bass (reduced ringing).
A few months later, my Velodyne started to act up so I bought my 3rd sub – another Paradigm Servo-15 and then let my Velodyne rest.
Subsequently, I purchased the SVS AS-EQ1 room correction for bass (which is described in a prior post), which improved the bass even further – tighter bass, flatter frequency response.
I had the Velodyne repaired by DIY_Master and it is now working well, as long as its volume is not too high. So I paired it with one of the Paradigms, through a Y-connector, stuck it in a corner and calibrated everything with the SVS AS-EQ1. To my pleasant surprise, the bass improved even further.
Finally, since my other Paradigm was lonely and had no companion, I decided to try out the SVS PB-12 NSD. I tried out this model because its frequency response is pretty similar to my other subs. Flat from 20 hz (and even lower) to 100 hz. I also felt that I would not need the next bigger model (PB-13) because it was a fourth sub and would not require much volume. I wasn’t sure if the addition of a 4th sub was going to provide any improvement at all and fortunately, Mike C. graciously allowed me to test it first. To my pleasant surprise, there was a pretty big improvement which is most noticeable in scenes with strong and deep bass. Now, the room has started to shake (and I still need to determine and cure the source of the shaking) and is pressurized (you can tell because your pants start to move). Even with music material, there was a definite improvement – the frequency response is even flatter than before. My conclusion is that the SVS PB-12 NSD is a great sub.
Maybe just one last note on bass: Proper bass management is essential. All speakers should be “small,” thus sending the bass frequencies to the subs. The LPF of the sub should be set at 120 hz or higher.
Post by: blackie on Oct 06, 2009 at 04:30 PM
Master and Commander Cannonbal exchange, Landing in Flight of the Phoenix or Pulse Cannons in Incredible Hulk can only get better :o :o :o
Post by: John E. on Oct 07, 2009 at 02:51 AM
hope to be able to see, hear and feel your new set-up!
may pa raffle ka ba this coming xmas party ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2009 at 06:57 AM
CONGRATS sir mark!
hope to be able to see, hear and feel your new set-up!
may pa raffle ka ba this coming xmas party ;D
Hehe! Lapit na Pasko! :) :)
Post by: praktikal on Oct 07, 2009 at 11:12 AM
congrats po!
Post by: gunblade977 on Oct 07, 2009 at 12:56 PM
Post by: Munskie on Oct 07, 2009 at 01:04 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2009 at 01:10 PM
Hibang klase talaga kayo ninong este sir Mark! ;D
congrats po!
whoa ! another top notch addition to your system sir mark! Congrats sir!
Congrats Sir Mark!!!
Salamat, mga kaibigan! :)
Lapit na pasko EB. Nagpagawa na ako ng 12 additional chairs. ;D ;D
Marvin, practice ka na ng karaoke. ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Oct 07, 2009 at 01:12 PM
Glad to hear about the improvements congrats po!
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 07, 2009 at 01:21 PM
PB-12 pala ang missing link sa Servos mo sir Mark.
Glad to hear about the improvements congrats po!
Hi Luther! Amazingly, yes.
I find it strange because whether you have 2, 3 or 4 subs, the frequency response curve will all be quite similar -- quite flat from 20 hz to 100+ hz. In addition, the SPL of the 4 subs should be the exactly the same as the 2 subs because in both cases, they are calibrated to 75 db at Master Volume=0. With 4 subs, the volume knob of your subs is really low.
Therefore, you would think there would not be any difference in SPL at the lower frequencies or deeper extension of bass. Yet, that is exactly what I hear ... much more powerful (yet tight) bass at lower frequencies and an apparently deeper bass.
Kagawad Iiinas heard the new system this weekend and he was quite surprised. Big difference nga raw.
Now, is the improvement mainly because there are 4 subs or is it because the 4th sub is an SVS PB-12? Well, if you look at the rated FR of the PB-12, it goes down to 18 hz. I think that somehow, the PB-12 has a big contribution.
Post by: anchit on Oct 07, 2009 at 01:30 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 08, 2009 at 12:45 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 08, 2009 at 05:16 AM
I recently got an SVS PB-12 NSD from Mike C. and I’m very happy with it.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/SVSsub2.jpg)
sigh... i guess only in my dreams...
kaya ayokong pumapasok sa HT ni sir mark, lagi na lang tulo ng tulo ang laway ko. mike had been egging me to check this sub out.
sana maimbitahan pa din ako sa pasko para ma-test naman itong sub na ito. sige na sir mark, payag na ako na ibalik mo sa akin yang south border! madinig lang itong bagong addition mo! ;D
cheers! ganda!
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 08, 2009 at 06:52 AM
cant wait to hear your set up again sir mark. :D
Lapit na pasko EB. ;D ;D
bago lang po ako pero sana pwede ako maki join sa mga eb para dumami ang kaibigan. di po ako umiinom pero di rin malakas kumain ng pulutan kaya wala kaying magiging problema sagot ko ang patawa at kwento kung OK sa inyo.
Hehe! Sure! :)
Mababait ang karamihan ng mga tao sa pinoydvd. Dumikit ka lang sa akin at payuhan kita kung sino ang mga kelangan iwasan ... iyong mga mangku! ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 08, 2009 at 06:54 AM
sigh... i guess only in my dreams...
kaya ayokong pumapasok sa HT ni sir mark, lagi na lang tulo ng tulo ang laway ko. mike had been egging me to check this sub out.
sana maimbitahan pa din ako sa pasko para ma-test naman itong sub na ito. sige na sir mark, payag na ako na ibalik mo sa akin yang south border! madinig lang itong bagong addition mo! ;D
cheers! ganda!
Naku ... ako naman ang papakipot. Kasi parang wala na akong tiwala sa iyo. Paano ako sure na itutupad mo pangako mo? Pwede bang si Blackie, si Waxx at si Jay ang bahala sa iyo kapag nag double-cross ka? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Oct 08, 2009 at 07:25 AM
Naku ... ako naman ang papakipot. Kasi parang wala na akong tiwala sa iyo. Paano ako sure na itutupad mo pangako mo? Pwede bang si Blackie, si Waxx at si Jay ang bahala sa iyo kapag nag double-cross ka? ;D ;D ;D
ahahahaha! hindi talo yang tatlong yan sir mark!
Post by: juanch on Oct 08, 2009 at 09:41 AM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Oct 08, 2009 at 10:55 AM
sigh... i guess only in my dreams...
kaya ayokong pumapasok sa HT ni sir mark, lagi na lang tulo ng tulo ang laway ko. mike had been egging me to check this sub out.
sana maimbitahan pa din ako sa pasko para ma-test naman itong sub na ito. sige na sir mark, payag na ako na ibalik mo sa akin yang south border! madinig lang itong bagong addition mo! ;D
cheers! ganda!
tama si jake!
kakalaway naman talaga !!!
congrats on ur latest upgrade sir! :D
Post by: vtec3 on Oct 08, 2009 at 01:41 PM
I recently got an SVS PB-12 NSD from Mike C. and I’m very happy with it.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/SVSsub2.jpg)
ganda niyan Sir Mark! congrats!!! ;D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Oct 09, 2009 at 07:44 AM
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 28, 2009 at 09:17 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:34 AM
@vtec3
musta exhange gift :D :D
Post by: iiinas on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:49 AM
Post by: juanch on Nov 29, 2009 at 06:58 AM
Your 4 sub setup is the first thing I noticed upon entering your HT.
Iba talaga 8)
Big improvement from my last visit.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:02 AM
Anchit
Bass_nut
Bitstream
Blackd70s
Blackie
dts_truehd
ESI
ET414
Frootloops
Gren
Gunblade977
Iiinas
jk1980
JohnE.
John from AVDI
Juancho
Macdon
Mike C
Nerveblocker
Ninjababez
Nogie
Onkyo606
Raptor
Ricky
Sanmig_ph
Stickfighter
Streetsmart
Vtec3
Zedric
Special thanks to:
Iiinas, Ditoy_eagle, dts_truehd and blackd70s who helped out in the organization of the EB.
Jazzy Jake who provided the ideas for the EB and donated a ton of Pepsi products but couldn't make it cuz he was sick.
Alvinh who lent the PA system and had the banners printed but couldn't make it.
Marl_1 for the cool design of the banners
Munskie for donating 2 Ralph Lauren T-shirts
Richie of eHome for donating a media player (I will post more details of the player later)
Spike for donating an HDPro media player
Bitstream for donating a TV tuner (tama ba yun?)
Matzter for donating 3 HDMI cables
AV Driver Int'l for donating a pair of HK speakers and a very expensive interconnect cable
Mike C for donating 3 discount coupons for SVS speakers
DOM for donating a bluray disc
And congrats to all the guys who won the cool prizes! Especially Stickfighter, paki-post na ang picture ng panalo nyang DVD.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:04 AM
Sir Mark, Thank you very much for hosting the EB again!!! Ang saya saya ;) Iba pala talaga ang naka 4 na sub. Nasa likod na ako pero yung sofa sa likod nag vibrate pa din :o
Hehe. Hanapin mo na kung sino nakakuha ng 15% discount coupon ni Mike C. Bilhin mo ng P100. ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:22 AM
pics naman jan :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:29 AM
Hehe. Hanapin mo na kung sino nakakuha ng 15% discount coupon ni Mike C. Bilhin mo ng P100. ;D ;Dsorry juancho, naka kontrata na sakin yung kay anchit ;D ;D
Post by: JAQY888 on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:31 AM
sorry was not able to make it .... down with flu .... :P
As always, talagang gracious host itong si bro. Mark .... more power to you !!!!! :D :D :D
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!!!
Post by: mike c on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:37 AM
time flew by this year ... kahit kinulang tayo ng time, i think i enjoyed this year more than last year :D
merry christmas!
to everyone who went, it was nice meeting you guys!
to the sta. rosa chapter who were noticeably absent ... sayang, sana nakuha niyo yung special DVD.
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:43 AM
Post by: DOM on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:10 AM
dhil sa incoming wedding ko (preperation)
post nyo nalang kung sinu nakakuha sa bluray na
HANCOCK (bnew and sealed) plus free shipment
:) ;) :D ;D
Post by: ESi on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:43 AM
I missed 2008's Xmas EB and failed to see Sir Mark's reaction to the FAMOUS SOUTH BORDER CD ( Platinum Edition naman ). I made sure I wouldn't miss this years EB and truly it was entertaining and full of laughs. Met a lot of new friends and rekindled with the old. Winner of one of the many bottles of wine. Almost took home something i had so much curiosity about...( thanks to JohnE :'( :'( ;D ) but instead i took home something i can use on road trips a generic HDMI cable. The kwentuhan was absolutely great. But like before...the star of the EB was streetsmart's theater now with 4 SUBWOOFERS and a new Xtreamer to boot! Thanks sir Mark for being the most gracious host. Thanks to all the donors! Im looking forward to visit this site again with revealing pictures! The group pic and the respective winners of the prices. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all! :)
Post by: eksi on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:46 AM
29 ang dumating:
Anchit
Bass_nut
Bitstream
Blackd70s
Blackie
dts_truehd
ESI
ET414
Frootloops
Gren
Gunblade977
Iiinas
jk1980
JohnE.
John from AVDI
Juancho
Macdon
Mike C
Nerveblocker
Ninjababez
Nogie
Onkyo606
Raptor
Ricky
Sanmig_ph
Stickfighter
Streetsmart
Vtec3
Zedric
Special thanks to:
Iiinas, Ditoy_eagle, dts_truehd and blackd70s who helped out in the organization of the EB.
Jazzy Jake who provided the ideas for the EB and donated a ton of Pepsi products but couldn't make it cuz he was sick.
Alvinh who lent the PA system and had the banners printed but couldn't make it.
Marl_1 for the cool design of the banners
Munskie for donating 2 Ralph Lauren T-shirts
Richie of eHome for donating a media player (I will post more details of the player later)
Spike for donating an HDPro media player
Bitstream for donating a TV tuner (tama ba yun?)
Matzter for donating 3 HDMI cables
AV Driver Int'l for donating a pair of HK speakers and a very expensive interconnect cable
Mike C for donating 3 discount coupons for SVS speakers
DOM for donating a bluray disc
And congrats to all the guys who won the cool prizes! Especially Stickfighter, paki-post na ang picture ng panalo nyang DVD.
congrats
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:48 AM
. Winner of one of the many bottles of wine. Almost took home something i had so much curiosity about...( thanks to JohnE :'( :'( ;D ) but instead i took home something i can use on road trips a generic HDMI cable.di mo kasi itinago bro :)
ako dun lang sa isang sulok, kunwari badtrip sa nakuha ko, para wala ng magkainterest .. ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:49 AM
Thanks gren for donating the Grand Prize...to me!!! (http://www.addemoticons.com/smileys/bm/smileys/13.gif)
Kudos to sir Mark and the organizers & specially those who came. It won't be an EB without you guys! (http://www.addemoticons.com/smileys/bm/smileys/16.gif)
Sa mga absent na mga "J" na-miss namin kayo....sana kayo nanalo ng "Provocative DVD". (http://www.addemoticons.com/smileys/bm/smileys/15.gif)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:57 AM
sana kayo nanalo ng "Provocative DVD". (http://www.addemoticons.com/smileys/bm/smileys/15.gif)nasa market place na yata bro .. :D :D
btw kanino bA galing yun ::) ::)
salamat nga pala sa ride doc (hatid) and anchit (sundot este sundo) ;D ;D
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:04 AM
Post by: nogie on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:05 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:21 AM
nasa market place na yata bro .. :D :D
btw kanino bA galing yun ::) ::)
salamat nga pala sa ride doc (hatid) and anchit (sundot este sundo) ;D ;D
Anong nauwi mo bro? Share naman... ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:51 AM
Anong nauwi mo bro? Share naman... ;D1 case of tropicana (24 bottles yata), a wine (which is with anchit now, kapalit nung svs discount certificate ;D ) and 4 dvds from our very own gunblade :D :D
natuwa nga ako kahapon at napag agawan pa yung projector mount, akala ko walang papansin :D :D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM
1 case of tropicana (24 bottles yata), a wine (which is with anchit now, kapalit nung svs discount certificate ;D ) and 4 dvds from our very own gunblade :D :D
natuwa nga ako kahapon at napag agawan pa yung projector mount, akala ko walang papansin :D :D
A man's trash is another man's treasure..... ;)
Post by: iiinas on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:26 AM
A man's trash is another man's treasure..... ;)
rightly said doc!
Post by: ESi on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:53 AM
di mo kasi itinago bro :)
ako dun lang sa isang sulok, kunwari badtrip sa nakuha ko, para wala ng magkainterest .. ;D ;D
Next year I will pull off a "THE PRESTIGE" thingy! I'll disappear after taking a good gift! POOF! :D
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM
Post by: macdon on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Kudos to all the organizers for making this '09 xmas EB a fun & successful EB ;D
Great seeing the old faces and a pleasure meeting the new ones - hope to see you guys again in the next EB ;)
.......and to those guys who stayed behind after the party......hahahahahaha :D ;D Ilalantad ba natin? :D ;D
And of course, a special shout out to my fellow kagawad iiinas......we love you sir! ;D
Post by: mike c on Nov 29, 2009 at 12:14 PM
Sir Mark - once again, thank you for your kind & generous hospitality ;) The xmas EB was certainly a blast! ;D
Kudos to all the organizers for making this '09 xmas EB a fun & successful EB ;D
Great seeing the old faces and a pleasure meeting the new ones - hope to see you guys again in the next EB ;)
.......and to those guys who stayed behind after the party......hahahahahaha :D ;D Ilalantad ba natin? :D ;D
And of course, a special shout out to my fellow kagawad iiinas......we love you sir! ;D
pinanood niyo ba yung special DVD? ano nangyari?
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 01:54 PM
to the sta. rosa chapter who were noticeably absent ... sayang, sana nakuha niyo yung special DVD.
Sa mga absent na mga "J" na-miss namin kayo....sana kayo nanalo ng "Provocative DVD".
pinanood niyo ba yung special DVD? ano nangyari?
Mike, na kay Stickfighter ang special DVD. Pero sa palagay ko, wala namang may interes sa amin na manood nun. Ewan ko lang sa mga Sta. Rosa boys. Malay natin! ;D ;D
Ang tagal naman mag-post ng mga pics -- Iiinas! Macdon! Blackd70s! Gunblade977! Ang dami pang iba. Kumakalat ang mga DSLR sa EB pero wala namang nag-popost.
Post by: macdon on Nov 29, 2009 at 02:06 PM
Mike, na kay Stickfighter ang special DVD. Pero sa palagay ko, wala namang may interes sa amin na manood nun. Ewan ko lang sa mga Sta. Rosa boys. Malay natin! ;D ;D
Ang tagal naman mag-post ng mga pics -- Iiinas! Macdon! Blackd70s! Gunblade977! Ang dami pang iba. Kumakalat ang mga DSLR sa EB pero wala namang nag-popost.
Sir Mark - hindi po kami naka dala ni bro gunblade ng aming camera - pareho kaming puyat at nakalimutan :P
Si sir iiinas at sir blackd70 malamang ang may mga pics.
busy lang po cguro si kagawad iiinas sa kaiinom ng gatorade - hahahahahaha :D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 02:15 PM
Sir Mark - hindi po kami naka dala ni bro gunblade ng aming camera - pareho kaming puyat at nakalimutan :P
Si sir iiinas at sir blackd70 malamang ang may mga pics.
busy lang po cguro si kagawad iiinas sa kaiinom ng gatorade - hahahahahaha :D ;D
Ay sori ... Nalasing yata si kagawad kagabi! ;D ;D
Post by: mike c on Nov 29, 2009 at 03:28 PM
video na lang
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m59b10Yawn4
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 29, 2009 at 03:42 PM
i happen to be the happiest man that night, you can just imagine my wifes reaction when i showed her the DVD that I got, nothing better than sir stickfigthers prize catch though ;D ;D ;D, who it think is the run away winner with that DVD, sorry sir martin, i already have lots of those so i did not got it from you hehehehehe
finally i was able to meet the faces behind the handles, such a great experience knowing everyone is kinder, nicer than how kind and nice they were in the PMs and the post. Heres to everyone
isang hapon ng Sabado,
mga katotoy nag tagpo tagpo
pinagsama sama ng iisang mundo
lahat mahihilig sa HT at audio
bago nangyari to, wala akong kilala kahit sino
ngunit pagdating dun lahat magugulo
itong si streetsmart, sa bait ay panalo
sa pag asikaso napaka grandioso
di ko na kayang isa isahin pa
ang mga dumating na mga kasama
ang mga katoto ang babait talaga
hay nako mga tita at ang gwagwapo pa
aking natitiyak lahat ay masaya
sa mga kwentuhan, oras ay kulang pa
ilan sa kanila akoy nasorpresa
may mga negosyo na kahit ang bata pa
ang sarap isipin na ang ating hilig
trabaho may iba iba tayoy pinag niig
sa iisang mundo ng movie at himig
sa inyo pong lahat na bagong kaibigan
sana simula lang ng bagong ugnayan
ating pagtitipon, gamiting sangkalan
sa pagpapatibay ng ating samahan
dalangin ko sa Diyos tayoy pagpalain
ang ating pamilya, lahat tangkilikin
masaganang buhay, lakas ating kamtin
ang pagpapala Niya palaging sumaatin
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 29, 2009 at 04:23 PM
It's been a wonderful pinoydvd year sir Mark thanks for hosting the party sana hindi ka magsawa.
Thanks pinoydvd!
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Iiinas, Ditoy_eagle, dts_truehd and blackd70s who helped out in the organization of the EB.
btw, naisama mo yung Dolby sa handle ko . . . dts-HD lang :D . . . tampo nko nyan ;D
Post by: nogie on Nov 29, 2009 at 04:27 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 04:54 PM
btw, naisama mo yung Dolby sa handle ko . . . dts-HD lang :D . . . tampo nko nyan ;D
Ay! Parang ginawa mong TrueHd minsan ang handle mo, ah. ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 29, 2009 at 04:57 PM
Ay! Parang ginawa mong TrueHd minsan ang handle mo, ah. ;D ;D
premonition yan dts HD, mag palit na ng bagong true HD hehehehehe
Post by: Tonteng on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:05 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:18 PM
Ay! Parang ginawa mong TrueHd minsan ang handle mo, ah. ;D ;D
hindi po . . . 1 beses pa lng ako nagpalit laos na daw kase ang 'dts_es' :D
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:19 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:23 PM
premonition yan dts HD, mag palit na ng bagong true HD hehehehehe
ayaw bro tirso ;D dts-hd din ako sa sa ibang forums.
sayang umalis ka kaagad kwela yung bangayan nila macdon at iiinas dun sa gatorade mo :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 29, 2009 at 06:30 PM
sayang umalis ka kaagad kwela yung bangayan nila macdon at iiinas dun sa gatorade mo :D
ayosss buti na lang wala na ako dun baka yung HDPRO ko mapag diskitahan hehehehe. hinanap nga ng anak ko nasan daw gatorade sabi ko natapon hahahahaha.mahirap ang promdi eh pero OK din naka daan kay richie
naku sir mark dito kami tumambay hehehehe
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 06:42 PM
ayosss buti na lang wala na ako dun baka yung HDPRO ko mapag diskitahan hehehehe. hinanap nga ng anak ko nasan daw gatorade sabi ko natapon hahahahaha.mahirap ang promdi eh pero OK din naka daan kay richiesa tingin ko lahat tayo nag aabang ng mga pics kaya andito tayong lahat ;D ;D
naku sir mark dito kami tumambay hehehehe
Post by: et414 on Nov 29, 2009 at 07:52 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:33 PM
sa tingin ko lahat tayo nag aabang ng mga pics kaya andito tayong lahat ;D ;D
Sabi ni Iiinas, hinahanda na raw nya mga pics. Ang tagal naman.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:35 PM
busy lang po cguro si kagawad iiinas sa kaiinom ng gatorade - hahahahahaha :D ;D
Sino kaya ang mag-explain ng private joke na ito? ;D ;D
Masamang damo talaga itong si Iiinas. Taking advantage of the joy of others. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:38 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:38 PM
Mike, na kay Stickfighter ang special DVD. Pero sa palagay ko, wala namang may interes sa amin na manood nun. Ewan ko lang sa mga Sta. Rosa boys. Malay natin! ;D ;D
Iniisip ko lang ... last year, South Border ang kulelat na premyo. This year, man porno ang kulelat. Parang palala ng palala. Can anything possibly be worse next year? ;D ;D
Kilala ko ang nag-donate ng kulelat prize this year. Sya ung tinatawag ko na wolf in sheep's clothing. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:40 PM
thank you very much sir Mark and our buddies .. sana maimbitahan pa po ako ulit sa sususnod ;)
Hi Fer! I really appreciated your coming over, considering that galing ka pa Angeles. Of course si ET414 ay galing pa Tarlac! :)
Ibang klase rin ang Pinoydvd. Sobrang maraming mababait dito. :)
Post by: bass_nut on Nov 29, 2009 at 08:57 PM
Post by: iiinas on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:29 PM
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thanks to sir marl and brader alvinh for making this banner possible
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brader raul (blackds)
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brader francis (anchit)
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braders martin (stickfighter), john (johne) and @jk1980
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brader von (vtec) and doc fer (bass nut)
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brader tirso (onkyo606)
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sir mike (mikec) and brader chan (blackie)
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kagawad mardon (macdon)
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sir eric (bitstream), brader andrew (gunblade) and doc mel (nerveblocker)
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getting to know part...
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the new host, brader ditoy (ditoy eagle)
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brader donnel (frootloop - 2nd from left), brader joel (sanmigph - 4th from left)
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opening a new xtreamer for testing
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and the host of the party, sir mark (streetsmart) with brader luther (dts-hd)
formal group pic with brader raul. brader post na! :)
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:29 PM
thanks for hosting the xmas party bro :D
@vtec3
musta exhange gift :D :D
nakakabit na brader ;D kulang lang ako ng tornilyo for the PJ ;D
Sir Mark last year may raffle na speakers bakit ngayon wala. Baka next year yung isang sub ang pa-raffle ;)
Post by: blackd70s on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:33 PM
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Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:49 PM
nakakabit na brader ;D kulang lang ako ng tornilyo for the PJ ;Dtox #10 ata IIRC yun kailangan (dont really know what that means, yung lang sabi sa cosmo :D )
Sir Mark last year may raffle na speakers bakit ngayon wala. Baka next year yung isang sub ang pa-raffle ;)
svs sana mapanalunan
.. :D
Post by: et414 on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:54 PM
nakakabit na brader ;D kulang lang ako ng tornilyo for the PJ ;D
Sir Mark last year may raffle na speakers bakit ngayon wala. Baka next year yung isang sub ang pa-raffle ;)
nung second round harman kardon speakers ang top prize :) next year baka maretire na yung hgs-15, pwede na iparaffle. dagdag na lang ng isa pang svs, may coupon naman e ;) ;D hehehe
Post by: ryn0128 on Nov 29, 2009 at 10:36 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 29, 2009 at 10:54 PM
eto na ang mga pogi! ;D
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STARSTRUCK BATCH 77 ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 30, 2009 at 06:14 AM
STARSTRUCK BATCH 77 ;D ;D ;Dyung judges yung mga nakaupo.. tapos yung mga talent nakatayo ;D ;D
bro mark nice HT daw sabi ng gf ko :D
Post by: iiinas on Nov 30, 2009 at 08:16 AM
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doc angelo (esi)
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doc fer (bass nut)
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everybody looking at the xtreamer
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the gigantic 130" screen of sir mark's ht! :o
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 30, 2009 at 09:46 AM
nung second round harman kardon speakers ang top prize :) next year baka maretire na yung hgs-15, pwede na iparaffle. dagdag na lang ng isa pang svs, may coupon naman e ;) ;D hehehe
sana sana sana ;D
Sayang namiss ko to. Conflict with schedule. anyways, merry christmas to all and congrats to all the winners.
naku sayang dika nga nakapunta. ang grand prize winner last year ;)
Post by: bass_nut on Nov 30, 2009 at 10:15 AM
kudos to our organizers, members and PinoyDVD staff !!!
Post by: Marl☆1 on Nov 30, 2009 at 11:44 AM
To all the PDVD brethren - congrats and a blessed Christmas to all and your loved ones.
Cheers!
Marl1
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM
sir Mark & To all,
We have missed 1 item from the list of donations that was not raffled off, its the Hancock Blu-ray from DOM.
Sir DOM wants to know what you guys wanna do w/ the BD:
1 - yun bd i doble ko sa next xmas party,
or
2 - pwede natin i raffle sa mga members na pumunta sa 2009 xmas party (yun member na walang major prize nakuha) mereon lang mg witness (isa sa mga organizer).
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:59 PM
sir Mark & To all,
We have missed 1 item from the list of donations that was not raffled off, its the Hancock Blu-ray from DOM.
Sir DOM wants to know what you guys wanna do w/ the BD:
1 - yun bd i doble ko sa next xmas party,
or
2 - pwede natin i raffle sa mga members na pumunta sa 2009 xmas party (yun member na walang major prize nakuha) mereon lang mg witness (isa sa mga organizer).
#2!
Post by: mike c on Nov 30, 2009 at 01:38 PM
pangtabla sa wine na nauwi ko and yung naagaw na headphones :D
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 30, 2009 at 02:04 PM
Post by: iiinas on Nov 30, 2009 at 03:12 PM
#2 , heheheeh... special raffle to the wine winners :D
#2 din!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 30, 2009 at 03:15 PM
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Nov 30, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 30, 2009 at 04:45 PM
Kamukha ng lawyer ni Vicky Belo ahhh..... ;D Peace bro ditoy! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/25.gif)
Post by: John E. on Nov 30, 2009 at 07:51 PM
Post by: John E. on Nov 30, 2009 at 07:51 PM
Post by: sanmig_ph on Dec 01, 2009 at 05:16 AM
Thanks for hosting the xmas party :D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 01, 2009 at 09:55 AM
mukhang enjoy lahat!
ang ganda ng streamer ah! ;D ;D ;D
happy holidays everyone!
Post by: vtec3 on Dec 01, 2009 at 10:39 AM
Post by: Munskie on Dec 01, 2009 at 11:54 AM
Advance Happy Holidays everyone!!!
Another great EB organized by EB King Sir Mark!!! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 01, 2009 at 01:14 PM
Missed this.....looks like you all had fun.......(inggit mode)......
Advance Happy Holidays everyone!!!
Another great EB organized by EB King Sir Mark!!! :)
Marvin, we missed you! Sayang at out of town ka. Maraming salamat sa pa-raffle mo na 2 Ralph Lauren T-shirts!! :)
Post by: nogie on Dec 01, 2009 at 03:16 PM
Missed this.....looks like you all had fun.......(inggit mode)......
Advance Happy Holidays everyone!!!
Another great EB organized by EB King Sir Mark!!! :)
I got one of the raffled RL Tshirts. Mas pogi ako ngayong ng +50 pts... Thanks sir!! ;D
Post by: zedric on Dec 01, 2009 at 09:06 PM
thanks a lot for being such a gracious host! another great eb xmas party!
to all other attendees,
nice meeting you guys!
;D ;D ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 02, 2009 at 12:57 AM
Missed this.....looks like you all had fun.......(inggit mode)......
Advance Happy Holidays everyone!!!
Another great EB organized by EB King Sir Mark!!! :)
Brader Munskie, we missed you at the party. Sayang naman at di ka naka-attend...hope all is well with you. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 02, 2009 at 01:33 AM
Brader Munskie, we missed you at the party. Sayang naman at di ka naka-attend...hope all is well with you. ;D
too bad i missed seeing the RL king next time perhaps
Post by: John E. on Dec 22, 2009 at 03:05 AM
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 24, 2009 at 07:32 AM
Sir Mark..
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Post by: iiinas on Dec 24, 2009 at 07:48 AM
Post by: JAQY888 on Dec 24, 2009 at 07:48 AM
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Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 24, 2009 at 11:01 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 24, 2009 at 12:26 PM
salamat pong muli sa nakaraang pagkikita kita sa inyong lugar :) :) :)
Post by: frootloops on Dec 24, 2009 at 09:08 PM
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Post by: macdon on Dec 24, 2009 at 10:45 PM
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Post by: Mr.H on Dec 24, 2009 at 11:26 PM
Merry Christmas to you & your family Brader!!!
Post by: bass_nut on Dec 25, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Post by: sanmig_ph on Dec 25, 2009 at 05:58 AM
ninong wala po kayo gift sakin...hehehehe
Post by: nogie on Dec 25, 2009 at 07:13 AM
Post by: pchin on Dec 25, 2009 at 08:42 AM
Post by: gunblade977 on Dec 25, 2009 at 09:22 AM
Post by: Munskie on Dec 25, 2009 at 05:07 PM
Merry Christmas!!
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Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 26, 2009 at 10:13 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 26, 2009 at 08:38 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 12:45 PM
Sorry about the scratches sa mount nya. Gotta clean that up.
After more than 3 years, I finally upgraded my pj from a Sony VPL-VW100 to a VPL-VW85.
Since the VW100 was introduced, several new Sony models have appeared – the VW200, 50, 60, 70 and 80. Of these, only the VW200 seemed to have a significantly better performance than the VW100 but its SRP was $15k. The VW85 has only recently come into the market and is reputed to have an even better performance than the VW200, at a much lower price.
The VW85 uses the same LCOS technology used by the VW100. This is likewise the technology used by JVC in its RS series of projectors. I prefer this to LCD or DLP because it seems to provide a smoother, more natural-looking image. It is very difficult to see the pixels (screen door effect) of these projectors. You need to be extremely close to the screen before you notice them.
What will immediately strike you with the VW85 are the following:
1) Really deep blacks. It’s quite hard to get any better than this. They are inky blacks. You can see this in really dark films such as Blade Runner and The Dark Knight. Yet, black shadow detail is not lost. There is no crushing of the blacks.
2) Very high contrast ratio. Together with the deep blacks, the whites jump out at you. The VW85 is supposed to have a contrast ratio of 120,000:1. You can especially note this in star fields – a black sky with bright stars.
3) Stronger light output. With a new lamp, the VW100 measured 22 foot-lamberts but went down to about 12 fl after 1000 hours. The VW85 currently measures 28 fl and its lamp is reputed to deteriorate at a much lower rate than the VW100. One thing that I also noticed is that after gray-scale calibration, the light output of the VW100 may go down by 25% whereas there is very little change for the VW85.
4) Motion flow. This is frame interpolation technology, which increases the number of frames per second and “guesses” what the intermediate frames should be. It provides smoother motion and is ideal for sports. Together with my dad, I re-watched the Pacquiao fights with de la Hoya, Hatton and Cotto. Pacquiao punches so fast that his fists and arms are normally just a blur but with the new pj, that blur is reduced and you can see his punches more clearly.
5) 24 frames per second. The VW100 could do 1080p/24 only through its DVI input, not the HDMI and the use of the DVI input somehow restricted the adjustment of other picture controls. The VW85 has a nice implementation of 1080p/24, which results in naturally smoother motion, something which can be seen in slow camera pans.
The VW85 is much more flexible and you can more easily fine-tune the picture:
1) Out of the box, the gray scale and gamma are already very close to ideal.
2) It has 10 gamma presets while the VW100 had only 3. I was able to achieve an almost perfect gamma scale, which was very difficult to do with the VW100.
3) It has the capability of doing a convergence of more than 150 points, similar to a CRT pj. This assures a perfect convergence of the red, green and blue LCOS panels.
4) It can do both a vertical and horizontal shift. Along with blanking of each side of the image, it’s much easier to perfectly align the picture with the screen.
The weakness of the VW85 is that it does not have a good color management system, which should allow the user to dial-in an accurate red, green and blue. However, reviewers have noted that the colors of the VW85 are already pretty accurate out of the box. I noticed this with the Baraka film, particularly the scenes in Bali which show coconut trees and fields. I swear that the coconut leaves were the most realistic I have ever seen.
Bottom-line is that the images are incredibly life-like and 3D. It’s the best pq I’ve seen of any projector, though I still need to see the Anthem pj of Alvinthx, which is supposed to be based on the JVC RS25.
Sulit! :) :)
Post by: macdon on Feb 08, 2010 at 12:51 PM
EB na yan! ;D
Post by: Superman on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:00 PM
Post by: iiinas on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:21 PM
congrats! ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:29 PM
ganda ng black sir . . . reflection ba yun, piano black ba yung finish ng ilalim?
Post by: John E. on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:30 PM
please include me sa list ng ma mamangha sa EB! ;)
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:31 PM
Congrats!!!
Post by: alvinh on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:52 PM
Post by: blackie on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:56 PM
Congratulations Sir!
Wooooooweeeeee!!!!!!!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 08, 2010 at 01:57 PM
curious how better this really is vs. the old unit. the old unit's PQ was already jaw dropping! my oh my!
this really is indeed a mighty upgrade! cheers and congratulations sir mark!
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:00 PM
Nag-iisip nga ako ng EB, not just to demo the new pj but hopefully to include some kind of educational element. Yung totoong educational. Hehe. ;D ;D
Iniisip ko:
1) Discussion and demo on gray-scale calibration, using a spectrophotometer.
2) Discussion and demo of Audyssey room correction technology, using the Audyssey Pro kit and the SVS AS-EQ1 sub correction.
What do you think?
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:02 PM
ganda ng black sir . . . reflection ba yun, piano black ba yung finish ng ilalim?
Hi Luther! Ang ilalim nya is piano black kaya reflection yun.
another "taking it to the next level" move!
curious how better this really is vs. the old unit. the old unit's PQ was already jaw dropping! my oh my!
this really is indeed a mighty upgrade! cheers and congratulations sir mark!
Hi Jake! If the previous one was jaw-dropping, this one is laglag briefs or panties. ;D ;D Promise! ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:08 PM
another "taking it to the next level" move!ako din bro mark medyo curios. gandang ganda nako sa bato nung previous pj mo.
curious how better this really is vs. the old unit. the old unit's PQ was already jaw dropping! my oh my!
this really is indeed a mighty upgrade! cheers and congratulations sir mark!
oh well sabi mo nga ..
Hi Jake! If the previous one was jaw-dropping, this one is laglag briefs or panties. ;D ;D Promise! ;D
sana may eb ::) ::)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:08 PM
Hi guys! Thanks for the comments.
Nag-iisip nga ako ng EB, not just to demo the new pj but hopefully to include some kind of educational element. Yung totoong educational. Hehe. ;D ;D
Iniisip ko:
1) Discussion and demo on gray-scale calibration, using a spectrophotometer.
2) Discussion and demo of Audyssey room correction technology, using the Audyssey Pro kit and the SVS AS-EQ1 sub correction.
What do you think?
sir mark kung panglaglag ng panties yang PJ eh palagay ko punong puno ang EB! lalo na kung puro educational ang palabas!
game ako diyan! and am particularly interested in the audyssey room correction tech.
thanks and sagot ko na ulit ang inumin! cheers!
Post by: iiinas on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:17 PM
Hi guys! Thanks for the comments.
Nag-iisip nga ako ng EB, not just to demo the new pj but hopefully to include some kind of educational element. Yung totoong educational. Hehe. ;D ;D
Iniisip ko:
1) Discussion and demo on gray-scale calibration, using a spectrophotometer.
2) Discussion and demo of Audyssey room correction technology, using the Audyssey Pro kit and the SVS AS-EQ1 sub correction.
What do you think?
sa akin pwede! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:22 PM
sir mark kung panglaglag ng panties yang PJ eh palagay ko punong puno ang EB! lalo na kung puro educational ang palabas!
game ako diyan! and am particularly interested in the audyssey room correction tech.
thanks and sagot ko na ulit ang inumin! cheers!
sa akin pwede! ;)
Ok, ah ... Idea ko lang is that it would be nice that Pinoydvd EB's become occasions for sharing HT knowledge.
Kausapin ko mga kagawad for the organization of the EB.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:26 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:34 PM
if time permits, might also be good to shoot the newer NMTs. ;D would be nice to see maximized capability with the PJ.
Pwede rin but someone has to bring the units ahead of time. Meron ako eGreat, Xtreamer and HDPro. We can hook each to a hdd with the same movie and then switch between units para madali makita difference.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:41 PM
Post by: tein on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:46 PM
Post by: macdon on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:50 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:55 PM
would be good to get our hands on the Mede8er, and the newer Popcorn models.
Si Doc Nerveblocker has the Mede8er. Panalo nya sa Xmas EB. If he comes, I'm sure he could bring it.
Wala ako kilala who has the newer Popcorns.
Sir Mark - can I bring my WD LIVE to test your usb hub? ;D
Hehe. Any time! ;D
Post by: macdon on Feb 08, 2010 at 02:58 PM
Exciting! ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 08, 2010 at 03:22 PM
:o :o :o :o :o
Congratulations Sir!
Wooooooweeeeee!!!!!!!
x2 !!!!! 8)
Post by: zekiber2 on Feb 08, 2010 at 03:24 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 08, 2010 at 03:26 PM
Hi guys! Thanks for the comments.
Nag-iisip nga ako ng EB, not just to demo the new pj but hopefully to include some kind of educational element. Yung totoong educational. Hehe. ;D ;D
Iniisip ko:
1) Discussion and demo on gray-scale calibration, using a spectrophotometer.
2) Discussion and demo of Audyssey room correction technology, using the Audyssey Pro kit and the SVS AS-EQ1 sub correction.
What do you think?
Sir Mark sama ako sa EB na ito. Congrats din sa pagkaganda ganda na PJ!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 03:49 PM
oh please include coax, svs and pilyosub and amp ;D...im willing na maging helper hehe
It's nearly impossible to do a good sub shootout. Subs are just too big and heavy but most important, to do a fair comparison, you need to calibrate each of them properly. It's just not possible to properly calibrate all of them at the same time.
Last year, we already did an EB for the Pilyo subs/amps and a separate EB for the SVS subs. Lots of people attended both EB's so they already have their private views on the differences.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2010 at 03:52 PM
Wala bang new products out there that we could possibly audition in the EB? A shootout or blind test perhaps?
Exciting! ;D
Not easy to do shootouts/blind tests. We could do it for media players but it's difficult for a lot of other stuff like speakers and amps ... unless may idea ka ...
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 08, 2010 at 03:57 PM
unless this becomes a whole day EB? ;D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 08, 2010 at 04:00 PM
Post by: iiinas on Feb 08, 2010 at 04:22 PM
Last year, we already did an EB for the Pilyo subs/amps and a separate EB for the SVS subs. Lots of people attended both EB's so they already have their private views on the differences.
;D
i fully agree with this statement. so i guess you guys just have to pm the guys who have attended both ebs to know their private views.
;)
Post by: ryn0128 on Feb 08, 2010 at 05:17 PM
Post by: macdon on Feb 08, 2010 at 05:42 PM
Not easy to do shootouts/blind tests. We could do it for media players but it's difficult for a lot of other stuff like speakers and amps ... unless may idea ka ...
Nahh, no idea......just wishful thinking lang naman ;D I'd be happy with what you guys decide to do kasi its always fun seeing the gang naman again ;)
Kung umubra yung WD LIVE ko with your usb hub - that's enough to make my day! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 08, 2010 at 06:48 PM
Nahh, no idea......just wishful thinking lang naman ;D I'd be happy with what you guys decide to do kasi its always fun seeing the gang naman again ;)
Kung umubra yung WD LIVE ko with your usb hub - that's enough to make my day! ;D
mukahng kelangan talagang dalhin mo yung wdtv live. para masalang na yan... ;D
Post by: frootloops on Feb 08, 2010 at 07:37 PM
Post by: eksi on Feb 08, 2010 at 08:23 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 08, 2010 at 11:01 PM
Post by: docelmo on Feb 08, 2010 at 11:04 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2010 at 12:26 AM
Hi guys! Thanks for the comments.
Nag-iisip nga ako ng EB, not just to demo the new pj but hopefully to include some kind of educational element. Yung totoong educational. Hehe. ;D ;D
Iniisip ko:
1) Discussion and demo on gray-scale calibration, using a spectrophotometer.
2) Discussion and demo of Audyssey room correction technology, using the Audyssey Pro kit and the SVS AS-EQ1 sub correction.
What do you think?
good good good sir mark, im particularly interested in the audyssey as either im not able to do it correctly or dont have better understanding on what to expect from the results.
sagot ko po ang sitsarong baboy from sta maria bulacan ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2010 at 12:27 AM
Wala bang new products out there that we could possibly audition in the EB? A shootout or blind test perhaps?
Exciting! ;D
a 15 inches coax perhaps ;) ;) ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2010 at 12:31 AM
good good good sir mark, im particularly interested in the audyssey as either im not able to do it correctly or dont have better understanding on what to expect from the results.
sagot ko po ang sitsarong baboy from sta maria bulacan ;D ;D
and congratulations before i forget :)
Post by: John E. on Feb 09, 2010 at 01:56 AM
Post by: pchin on Feb 09, 2010 at 07:38 AM
yeeeey! first EB for the year! ;D
I second that! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 09, 2010 at 07:49 AM
Kagawad Iiinas and I are busy planning na the EB. Pretty exciting but its gonna be pretty hard work too for Iiinas and me. ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Feb 09, 2010 at 08:01 AM
Thanks again, guys!
Kagawad Iiinas and I are busy planning na the EB. Pretty exciting but its gonna be pretty hard work too for Iiinas and me. ;D ;D
Great Mark! Looking forward to it...."no pain, no gain"...;D
Post by: zekiber2 on Feb 09, 2010 at 08:59 AM
i want to see the people behind the avatars ;D and siempre want to hear watch some high end setup :D
Post by: docelmo on Feb 09, 2010 at 09:06 AM
Thanks again, guys!
Kagawad Iiinas and I are busy planning na the EB. Pretty exciting but its gonna be pretty hard work too for Iiinas and me. ;D ;D
sir mark...kelan eb?
luwas ako mnl feb 18-20 for a convention...baka pwede masilip new PJ!!!
;D
Post by: gaol on Feb 09, 2010 at 09:21 AM
Post by: jay2 on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Went to streetsmart last saturday to see his new Sony VW85. Jaw dropping clarity and if my memory serves me right the biggest diffrence from his previous PJ is the brightness of the picture at hindi nagsuffer and black level. Inky black na pati yung black bars is as black as the borders ng screen. Even the menu is to die for, dami pwede iadjust, a real techies PJ.
Pagdating ko sa bahay tiningnan ko kagad PJ ko medyo yung colors and sharpness ang naging malayo ang diffrence at ang shadow detail din medyo mas maganda ang sa VW85 kita talaga ang lukot at tupi ng mga itim na damit.
As always Mark's collection of wine ang to die for!! Muntik na ako hindi nakarating sa bahay dami pala namin nainom. Hometheater + very good wine = jackpot ;)
Thanks Mark sa uulitin ;)
Post by: Munskie on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 09, 2010 at 11:03 AM
Thanks again, guys!wow! Very excited for this!
Kagawad Iiinas and I are busy planning na the EB. Pretty exciting but its gonna be pretty hard work too for Iiinas and me. ;D ;D
and for the upcoming educational materials :)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 09, 2010 at 11:04 AM
Went to streetsmart last saturday to see his new Sony VW85. Jaw dropping clarity and if my memory serves me right the biggest diffrence from his previous PJ is the brightness of the picture at hindi nagsuffer and black level. Inky black na pati yung black bars is as black as the borders ng screen. Even the menu is to die for, dami pwede iadjust, a real techies PJ.
Pagdating ko sa bahay tiningnan ko kagad PJ ko medyo yung colors and sharpness ang naging malayo ang diffrence at ang shadow detail din medyo mas maganda ang sa VW85 kita talaga ang lukot at tupi ng mga itim na damit.
As always Mark's collection of wine ang to die for!! Muntik na ako hindi nakarating sa bahay dami pala namin nainom. Hometheater + very good wine = jackpot ;)
Thanks Mark sa uulitin ;)
Hi Jay! Thanks for coming over last Saturday. Sarap ng kwentuhan natin. Parang bitin pa nga. You can come over any time. :) :)
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 09, 2010 at 01:23 PM
Si Doc Nerveblocker has the Mede8er. Panalo nya sa Xmas EB. If he comes, I'm sure he could bring it.
Definitely! Partytime ulit sa Leon Guinto! (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-551.gif)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 09, 2010 at 03:06 PM
Congrats Mark on the new acquisition! I'm looking forward to the next EB with the new equipment. (http://planetsmilies.net/happy-smiley-541.gif)
Definitely! Partytime ulit sa Leon Guinto! (http://planetsmilies.net/party-smiley-551.gif)
Hehe. Thanks, Doc! :)
Post by: iiinas on Feb 09, 2010 at 05:44 PM
Thanks again, guys!
Kagawad Iiinas and I are busy planning na the EB. Pretty exciting but its gonna be pretty hard work too for Iiinas and me. ;D ;D
pati si sir jake! hehehe ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 09, 2010 at 06:55 PM
pati si sir jake! hehehe ;D
naku saling-kat lang po ako kagawad. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2010 at 08:29 PM
naku saling-kat lang po ako kagawad. ;D
sus saling kat daw eh balita ko nag padala ka na ng isang truck na drinks doon sa leon guinto, na traffic nga eh 40 footer container van yata ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:11 PM
pati si sir jake! hehehe ;D
Hehe! Si Jake nga pala will be the emcee. Miz ka kasi namin last Xmas EB! Since wala ka dun, bigay na lang daw ni stickfighter regalo nya sa yo. Yung magandang dibidi. ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:18 PM
Hehe! Si Jake nga pala will be the emcee. Miz ka kasi namin last Xmas EB! Since wala ka dun, bigay na lang daw ni stickfighter regalo nya sa yo. Yung magandang dibidi. ;D ;D
naku sir mark malamang matuwa si brader jake nyan, yung kayang akin dalin ko na din kase halos pareho lang nung kay stickfigther eh ;D ;D ;D
Post by: dionyjay on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:40 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 09, 2010 at 10:49 PM
Hehe! Si Jake nga pala will be the emcee. Miz ka kasi namin last Xmas EB! Since wala ka dun, bigay na lang daw ni stickfighter regalo nya sa yo. Yung magandang dibidi. ;D ;D
Actually, yung Grand Prize nung Xmas party...eh kay brader Jake talaga yon! Pinatago lang sa akin ni sir Mark! Iaabot ko nalang kay brader Jake! :D :D :D
Hmmmmmmm....i-pa-raffle out kaya natin ulet! ::)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Feb 09, 2010 at 11:02 PM
Went to streetsmart last saturday to see his new Sony VW85. Jaw dropping clarity and if my memory serves me right the biggest diffrence from his previous PJ is the brightness of the picture at hindi nagsuffer and black level. Inky black na pati yung black bars is as black as the borders ng screen. Even the menu is to die for, dami pwede iadjust, a real techies PJ.
Pagdating ko sa bahay tiningnan ko kagad PJ ko medyo yung colors and sharpness ang naging malayo ang diffrence at ang shadow detail din medyo mas maganda ang sa VW85 kita talaga ang lukot at tupi ng mga itim na damit.
As always Mark's collection of wine ang to die for!! Muntik na ako hindi nakarating sa bahay dami pala namin nainom. Hometheater + very good wine = jackpot ;)
Thanks Mark sa uulitin ;)
Na-excite ako lalo sa FR ni Jay2 ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 10, 2010 at 02:24 AM
Hehe! Si Jake nga pala will be the emcee. Miz ka kasi namin last Xmas EB! Since wala ka dun, bigay na lang daw ni stickfighter regalo nya sa yo. Yung magandang dibidi. ;D ;D
ayos! iinom na ako ng maraming salabat at para ready na ako mag emcee!
naku sir mark malamang matuwa si brader jake nyan, yung kayang akin dalin ko na din kase halos pareho lang nung kay stickfigther eh ;D ;D ;D
Actually, yung Grand Prize nung Xmas party...eh kay brader Jake talaga yon! Pinatago lang sa akin ni sir Mark! Iaabot ko nalang kay brader Jake! :D :D :D
Hmmmmmmm....i-pa-raffle out kaya natin ulet! ::)
kayong dalawa maghanda kayo sa EB!
at tigilan niyo yang pagpapanggap! ipapasa niyo na naman sa akin...
aminin niyo na kung bakit kayo lagi gising sa gabi! kaya naman pala't ginagaya niyo yung nasa dibidi! pakalat kalat lagi sa makati abenyu!!! hay naman talaga!
:P :P :P :P :P
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 10, 2010 at 04:37 AM
kayong dalawa maghanda kayo sa EB!
at tigilan niyo yang pagpapanggap! ipapasa niyo na naman sa akin...
aminin niyo na kung bakit kayo lagi gising sa gabi! kaya naman pala't ginagaya niyo yung nasa dibidi! pakalat kalat lagi sa makati abenyu!!! hay naman talaga!
:P :P :P :P :P
Hello brader Jake! ;D Musta na ang Isla? :D :D :D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 10, 2010 at 05:02 AM
Hello brader Jake! ;D Musta na ang Isla? :D :D :D
yo brader marts! eto ganun pa din... ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 10, 2010 at 08:45 AM
ayos! iinom na ako ng maraming salabat at para ready na ako mag emcee!
kayong dalawa maghanda kayo sa EB!
at tigilan niyo yang pagpapanggap! ipapasa niyo na naman sa akin...
aminin niyo na kung bakit kayo lagi gising sa gabi! kaya naman pala't ginagaya niyo yung nasa dibidi! pakalat kalat lagi sa makati abenyu!!! hay naman talaga!
:P :P :P :P :P
madali lang malaman yan brader dadalin namin dibidi pareho ni sir martin, makikita mo na yung kay sir martin puro gasgas na kakagamit, yung sa akin sealed and mint conditioned pa
saka ako lagi online yung isa laging wala, kase nood lagi ng dibidi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 10, 2010 at 08:46 AM
Hello brader Jake! ;D Musta na ang Isla? :D :D :D
eto talagang arnis expert natin oo, lulubog lilitaw lang eh, pauwiin mo na yang boss mo ng maka online ka na palagi bwaaaaaahhhhhaaaaa
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 10, 2010 at 01:19 PM
ayos! iinom na ako ng maraming salabat at para ready na ako mag emcee!
Brader mukhang kakanta ka ah! Ayoko na ng isa pang Ondoooooy! (http://www.superemoticons.com/emoticons/scared/download.php?file=008-[Scared]-[SuperEmoticons.com].gif)(http://www.superemoticons.com/emoticons/scared/download.php?file=008-[Scared]-[SuperEmoticons.com].gif)(http://www.superemoticons.com/emoticons/scared/download.php?file=008-[Scared]-[SuperEmoticons.com].gif)(http://www.superemoticons.com/emoticons/scared/download.php?file=008-[Scared]-[SuperEmoticons.com].gif)(http://www.superemoticons.com/emoticons/scared/download.php?file=008-[Scared]-[SuperEmoticons.com].gif)
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 10, 2010 at 10:02 PM
madali lang malaman yan brader dadalin namin dibidi pareho ni sir martin, makikita mo na yung kay sir martin puro gasgas na kakagamit, yung sa akin sealed and mint conditioned pa
saka ako lagi online yung isa laging wala, kase nood lagi ng dibidi ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Ahhhhhhh ganon pala ha....akala ko ba kampi tayo dito klasmate? ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 10, 2010 at 10:03 PM
eto talagang arnis expert natin oo, lulubog lilitaw lang eh, pauwiin mo na yang boss mo ng maka online ka na palagi bwaaaaaahhhhhaaaaa
Pasensya na talaga...sobrang busy lang dito sa office. Ki-kita kits naman tayo soon eh. :P
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 10, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Pasensya na talaga...sobrang busy lang dito sa office. Ki-kita kits naman tayo soon eh. :P
pag bulaga ng thread mo malamang puro na bago ;) ;) ;)
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 15, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 15, 2010 at 03:11 PM
Sir Mark maraming salamat nga pala sa pag calibrate sa PJ ko!!!!
You're welcome. From a color temperature of more than 7500k, we brought it down to an almost flat 6500k. The image used to be bluish while it now looks more natural. :)
More important, I love that extra room. I think it will be perfect for a dedicated HT. ;D ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 15, 2010 at 03:33 PM
You're welcome. From a color temperature of more than 7500k, we brought it down to an almost flat 6500k. The image used to be bluish while it now looks more natural. :)
More important, I love that extra room. I think it will be perfect for a dedicated HT. ;D ;D
oops lapit na siguro yan sir Mark ;D nakita ka kasi nung wife ko eh ;D iba daw kahit hindi ka daw masyado nagsalita parang gusto mo daw for her to say yes for the HT Room ;D yung Alterra sir parang yung Key Immobilizer ang culprit. kapag kasi na on/off ng ilang beses yun nag automatic na di na siya start for safety reason (para hindi ma carnap) will update you.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 15, 2010 at 04:58 PM
oops lapit na siguro yan sir Mark ;D nakita ka kasi nung wife ko eh ;D iba daw kahit hindi ka daw masyado nagsalita parang gusto mo daw for her to say yes for the HT Room ;D
Jackpot! Bait nga ng wife mo. Bagay na bagay sa yo. ;D ;D
Magandang project yan. I think the dimensions are perfect. And you can put 11.1 speakers. You can work on that project for a few years. :)
Post by: docelmo on Feb 21, 2010 at 09:29 PM
I am back home...
Thanks for lunch and the awesome audio-visual experience!
Learned a lot from our discussion all throughout the almost 3-hour demo!!!
and did i mention...an excellent and gracious host!!!
God Bless you and your family!!!
;D
...and good luck on the next "shootouT"!
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 22, 2010 at 09:21 AM
Sir Mark!
I am back home...
Thanks for lunch and the awesome audio-visual experience!
Learned a lot from our discussion all throughout the almost 3-hour demo!!!
and did i mention...an excellent and gracious host!!!
God Bless you and your family!!!
;D
...and good luck on the next "shootouT"!
Thanks for coming, doc! Next time, bring your family. :) :)
Post by: gutierrez on Feb 22, 2010 at 02:22 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 24, 2010 at 05:19 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 25, 2010 at 03:49 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 25, 2010 at 06:00 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 26, 2010 at 08:49 AM
Mayron yata MJ Dance contest sa EB :)
Mauna ka Von...sunod ako!!! (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/dancing/michael-jackson.gif)(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/dancing/michael-jackson.gif)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Feb 26, 2010 at 10:07 AM
Enjoy!!!
wont be able to make it...... lipat bahay ako eh! :'(
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 26, 2010 at 10:59 AM
Mauna ka Von...sunod ako!!! (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/dancing/michael-jackson.gif)(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/dancing/michael-jackson.gif)
pass ako this EB kasi wedding ng brother in law ko :(
Post by: docelmo on Feb 26, 2010 at 12:24 PM
Excited nako makita yung VW85 (1985 model na Volkswagen) ni Sir Mark! Kita kits! (http://planetsmilies.net/happy-smiley-638.gif)(http://planetsmilies.net/happy-smiley-638.gif)(http://planetsmilies.net/happy-smiley-638.gif)
@sir nerve,
It's a thing of beauty!
I wonder w/c media player will "win" the shootout!!!
;D
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4938/sonypj.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 26, 2010 at 12:56 PM
I wonder w/c media player will "win" the shootout!!!
Me too. To make it interesting, we will have friendly bets on which one will win. Hehe.
Post by: John E. on Feb 27, 2010 at 12:08 AM
Me too. To make it interesting, we will have friendly bets on which one will win. Hehe.
wow anu kaya ang prize! ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 27, 2010 at 12:19 AM
wow anu kaya ang prize! ;D
Yung special DVD ko! :D :D :D
Post by: John E. on Feb 27, 2010 at 12:29 AM
Yung special DVD ko! :D :D :D
naisip ko na yan kaso nakakatakot manalo :D mukang ma break ang gagawing tradition twing xmas EB if you pass the torch ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 27, 2010 at 05:18 AM
naisip ko na yan kaso nakakatakot manalo :D mukang ma break ang gagawing tradition twing xmas EB if you pass the torch ;D
Correct! See you later brader! ;)
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:21 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:24 PM
The results of the blind test are surprising ... I need to double-check the computations before the official results are posted.
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:31 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:36 PM
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 27, 2010 at 09:50 PM
Maraming salamat to all of those who attended the EB kanina! Dami kumuha ng pictures ...
The results of the blind test are surprising ... I need to double-check the computations before the official results are posted.
Thank yiou again for hosting the EB and for being the ever gracious host.
The blind test results are indeed surprising! baka namali ako sa encode ;D ;D
Happy birthday ulit sir Mark!
Post by: mike c on Feb 27, 2010 at 10:35 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 27, 2010 at 11:11 PM
Maraming salamat to all of those who attended the EB kanina! Dami kumuha ng pictures ...
The results of the blind test are surprising ... I need to double-check the computations before the official results are posted.
more than anything else, the chance to meet fellow enhtusiast, add learnings on the hobby we all have and meeting our ever gracious host once again more than compensated for the 1 hour walk i did before finding the pace of sir mark ( naligaw po ako eh hehehehehehe) salamat po ulit sir mark
by the way the MJ dance was something i never did in quite a long time ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: zedric on Feb 27, 2010 at 11:24 PM
Maraming maraming salamat! such a gracious host!
GANDA ng pj! laki talaga ng improvement sa dating already awesome pj :)
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:08 AM
Post by: alvinh on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:11 AM
Great friends, great food and great wine...and of course, scene 4 was superb. ;D ;D ;D
Happy Birthday again! The red shirt says it all...may you have many more eb's to come.
Congratulations for hosting another educational shoot out!
Nice to see you all gentlemen!
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 01:40 AM
Looking forward to the results. :)
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 28, 2010 at 02:16 AM
Sayang kasi video reviews lang...walang audio. (http://planetsmilies.net/grinning-smiley-9515.gif)
Post by: JAQY888 on Feb 28, 2010 at 04:00 AM
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg38/huntoo/msgraphics/a/am881213.gif)
sorry that I was not able to make to the EB ..... sa sususnod na lang po .... :D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 28, 2010 at 06:07 AM
and the winner is....... ;D
Post by: Mr.H on Feb 28, 2010 at 06:09 AM
Sir Mark!!! :D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Feb 28, 2010 at 06:44 AM
hapi hapi bertdey sir mark! danda danda ng PJ! swabe grabe!
nice to meet all the guys again at the EB! cheers!
teka teka... ano nga ba ang winner??? ::)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:42 AM
Blackie, Mike C, Bass_nut, Nogie, Onkyo606 and Juancho
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0082.jpg)
Markcrenz, Jazzy Jake, Esi, Juancho, Setup, Anchit
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0077.jpg)
3 of the contestants: Xtreamer, Mede8er and Popcorn C200
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0074.jpg)
Salingpusa - Popcorn A200 of Gaol
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0073.jpg)
Last 2 contestants: eGreat 31b and WDTV
(http://i208.photobucket.com
/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0072.jpg)
Obvious ito
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0062.jpg)
Ito rin
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0060.jpg)
Jay2, Pchin, Blackie, Gaol, Alvinh, Anchit and Esi
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0059.jpg)
Esi, JohnE., Stickfighter (partly hidden), DTS HD-3D, Juancho
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0058.jpg)
Setup is at extreme right
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0057.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0055.jpg)
Post by: pchin on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:59 AM
Hanep ang details at pq and clarity ng EDUCATIONAL video ;D ;D
I second that. It's a real eye poping clear! ;D Thanks again Mark for the great EB & to all the other comittee who put in effort & contributing their players.
For all the other PDVD members who attented (some first time met), it's a pleasure meeting you all (again). :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:10 AM
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:25 AM
Happy Birthday Sir Mark!!!!
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:26 AM
more than anything else, the chance to meet fellow enhtusiast, add learnings on the hobby we all have and meeting our ever gracious host once again more than compensated for the 1 hour walk i did before finding the pace of sir mark ( naligaw po ako eh hehehehehehe) salamat po ulit sir mark
by the way the MJ dance was something i never did in quite a long time ;D ;D ;D ;D
brader sumayaw ala MJ ;) anong ang tugtog thriller :)
Post by: John E. on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:47 AM
thanks for the cool party! ;D and EB!
Post by: John E. on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:54 AM
Hanep ang details at pq and clarity ng EDUCATIONAL video ;D ;D
i think that was the best educational video on all of the EBs at sir mark's place! ;)
colors are very accurate, sharpness was very evident and the details were :o ! ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:58 AM
Post by: markcrenz on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:06 AM
Very educational ang video calibration & PQ lectures ni sir Mark. But I seriously doubt if anybody saw the last example of edge enhancement, dun kasi lahat nakatingin sa "center" ng image. ;D
To bassnut thanks for the NOYNOY straps!
Thanks for the invite and HAPPY BIRTHDAY again sir Mark! Nice meeting you all guys!
Post by: markcrenz on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:13 AM
happy bday sir mark!!!
and the winner is....... ;D
...Onkyo606 for best MJ moves! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:38 AM
...Onkyo606 for best MJ moves! ;D
definitely!
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Had a blast yesterday! Up to now I'm still overwhelmed, having met the King of Philippine HT and the Legends of pinoydvd. Sir streetsmart's system is really great, I now have a very clear reference from which to tailor my a/v system. The NMT shootout was quite a revelation, everybody was surprised at the results, which as sir Mark said is still unofficial. Si gaol talagang masusurprise!
Very educational ang video calibration & PQ lectures ni sir Mark. But I seriously doubt if anybody saw the last example of edge enhancement, dun kasi lahat nakatingin sa "center" ng image. ;D
To bassnut thanks for the NOYNOY straps!
Thanks for the invite and HAPPY BIRTHDAY again sir Mark! Nice meeting you all guys!
Can't wait for the official results! Mukhang lahat na-surprise hehe ;D
Sayang na-miss ko yung educational video na yan. ....
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:59 AM
brader sumayaw ala MJ ;) anong ang tugtog thriller :)
yung itsura ko pang thriller pero yung sayaw eh billie jean ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:01 PM
...Onkyo606 for best MJ moves! ;D
ayosssssssss, wag ng ulitin yun ah hahahahahahahah
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:02 PM
definitely!
ayun pa ang isa oh ;D ;D ;D
maykel jakston yata eh ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:05 PM
I'm curious to know the title of the educational video ;D
parang "Edge Enhancement on the Center" hehehehehe meron ba n un
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:24 PM
the "edge enhancement" was still sticky inside my very old memory cells :D.. quite revealing including the "depth of field" ;D
bro Tirso, where do you want me to post the captured MJ dance ? sa favorite thread ko?... hahahahaha.. joke only ;)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Feb 28, 2010 at 01:14 PM
Happy B-day again sir Mark! and thanks for inviting me over. I have to admit nahirapan ako sa blind test . . . except dun sa first scene w/ Players 1 & 2.
Congrats sa PJ . . . panalo ang upgrade!
Nice seeing you all guys again & having a chat w/ you.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 04:04 PM
Happy Birthday sir Mark ... and tons of thanks for another wonderful meet which we all agreed was educational.. very nice to meet our buddies too.. priceless moments indeed
the "edge enhancement" was still sticky inside my very old memory cells :D.. quite revealing including the "depth of field" ;D
bro Tirso, where do you want me to post the captured MJ dance ? sa favorite thread ko?... hahahahaha.. joke only ;)
pwede kaya sa youtube doc fer baka sakaling ma discover ako ;D ;D ;D ;D
sayang at may dinaanan ka pa mahaba sanag wentuhan kung nakasabay ako sa yo ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:07 PM
1. WDTV (1st generation version)
2. Popcorn C200
3. eGreat 31B
4. Mede8er
5. Xtreamer
The Popcorn and the Mede8er were kindly provided by our good friend @Gren from eHome.
We figured that this was already a pretty good representation of the players in the market.
We tried our best to make the blind test as objective and scientific as possible. We had 5 hard drives connected to the 5 players. The players were then connected to an HDMI switcher (c/o @pchin, thanks!) and then output to the Denon AVR and then the projector.
We selected "27 Dresses" as the test movie because it has a lot of scenes with natural lighting, along with greenery, dark scenes and fast motion. The movie was 720p/24 and the players upscaled this to 1080p/24. No external video processing was used so the raw data was sent to the projector.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:14 PM
The way we did the test was that we determined the time of the scene to be tested (there were 3 different scenes, with a variety of video challenges -- natural light, dark scenes, motion, buildings, greenery). We then decided on the sequence of the players and cued the players to all play at the same time, but with a 2 minute difference between players, and then we paused the players.
We ran the first player and then called the guys in from outside the room. The first player had a 1 minute gap before the actual start of the scene. When the scene started, we put the 4 other players on "play".
The big problem was that for whatever reason, whenever we put the Mede8er on pause, it would not start properly. After a while, we decided that the only way to include the Mede8er in the test would be to have it as the first player for all 3 scenes. Otherwise, we randomly mixed the sequence of the players. Only the Mede8er was fixed as always the first player.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:16 PM
1. Sharpness
2. Detail
3. Motion stutter
4. Color accuracy
5. Color saturation
6. Edge enhancement
There was a brief lecture on each of the criteria before the start of the test. People left the room, we set up the scene and then brought the people back in. This was repeated for each of the 3 scenes.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:19 PM
1. Jazzy Jake
2. Blackie
3. Anchit
4. Jay2
5. Stickfighter
6. JohnE.
7. Esi
8. Alvinh
9. Gunblade977
10. Juancho
11. Nogie
12. Gaol
13. markcrenz
14. Mike C
15. Dts-HD 3D
16. Setup
17. Pchin
Aside from these guys, the others in the EB were myself, Iiinas, bass_nut (late dumating) and Zedric (also late).
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:22 PM
1. WDTV (the 1st generation!) -- 4.40
2. Xtreamer -- 4.37
3. eGreat 31b -- 4.29
4. Popcorn Hour C200 -- 4.26
5. Mede8er 4.06
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:27 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:29 PM
I think this may be the main reason why the Mede8er placed poorly. Just today, Alvinthx2 and myself reviewed the Mede8er vs. the Xtreamer with the same scenes and frankly, we could hardly tell the difference.
In fact, most people had the same comment. In a blind test, it was nearly impossible to tell the difference in quality between players.
My personal conclusion: The current crop of media players have nearly equal pq. Their main differences will be in their menu, boot-up speed, stability, navigation, etc. Based on this, the 1st gen WDTV (which won the blind test) actually sucks, particularly for navigation but insofar as pq is concerned, I think that all media players are virtually equal in quality.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:30 PM
Wow dapat pala nagpadala tayo ng WD TV Live, at least mas updated vs the 1st gen but I wonder if their PQ is the same! Galing ng Xtreamer ah
@Macdon was supposed to bring a WD TV Live but on the day of the EB, nagkasakit sya so I had to use my WD TV, 1st gen. E kahit 1st gen, nanalo pa rin! ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:44 PM
@Macdon was supposed to bring a WD TV Live but on the day of the EB, nagkasakit sya so I had to use my WD TV, 1st gen. E kahit 1st gen, nanalo pa rin! ;D
yung WD TV po ba ang ginamit dun sa educational movie?? ang linaw eh lahat ng angulo kita ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:47 PM
Salamat din kay @markcrenz, who became the Kristo. Pustahan kasi kung ano player manalo. Wala naman pumusta sa WDTV so ang nanalo ay ang pumusta sa Xtreamer.
Salamat kay @onkyo606 who was also an overall assistant.
Salamat kay @JohnE. who was the bartender. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 07:48 PM
yung WD TV po ba ang ginamit dun sa educational movie?? ang linaw eh lahat ng angulo kita ;D ;D ;D
Honestly, Mede8er ginamit sa educational movie. Baka yun ang forte nya. ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:13 PM
;)
btw, after the 2.2 firmware of xtreamer. the gamma thingy selection of xtreamer is now two, 4.4.2. and 4.4.4.
;)
Post by: juanch on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:17 PM
Thanks and Happy Birthday to sir Mark for graciously hosting this EB.
EB's in sir Mark's place is always full of substance because we always have a set objective.
Also the new PJ is awesome!
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:23 PM
hi sir mark. excellent write up. please allow me to post in the nmt section by copying your posts. i will try to get some pictures of the players too. kahit from the net na.
;)
btw, after the 2.2 firmware of xtreamer. the gamma thingy selection of xtreamer is now two, 4.4.2. and 4.4.4.
;)
Syempre ok. Yun nga ang objective natin. We wanted to learn something ... and I think we achieved that.
With regard to the Xtreamer, you might be talking about the color space. I noticed that it uses YCbCr 4:4:4, which is supposed to be the best. FWIW, the Mede8er uses the same color space.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:25 PM
Salamat sa laht ng bumati sa akin. Actually, si Iiinas ang may kasalanan na sumabay ang EB sa birthday ko, kasi yun lang ang date na available sya and sya ang main assistant ko. ;D ;D
Salamat din kay @markcrenz, who became the Kristo. Pustahan kasi kung ano player manalo. Wala naman pumusta sa WDTV so ang nanalo ay ang pumusta sa Xtreamer.
Salamat kay @onkyo606 who was also an overall assistant.Salamat kay @JohnE. who was the bartender. ;D ;D
at MJ dancer, Macho Jancer ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:28 PM
Honestly, Mede8er ginamit sa educational movie. Baka yun ang forte nya. ;D ;D
naku di na ako manood ng educational mapipilitan pala ako mag dalawa NMT ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:29 PM
at MJ dancer, Macho Jancer ;D ;D ;D ;D
Honestly, nagulat ako kay Tirso. Ang galing sumayaw! Ang lambot ng katawan! Parang MJ talaga! ;D ;D
And salamat kay @vtec3 for providing the MJ 30th anniversary video (galing pa raw kay @Clondalkin kaya pasalamat na rin sa kanya).
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:31 PM
My personal conclusion: The current crop of media players have nearly equal pq. Their main differences will be in their menu, boot-up speed, stability, navigation, etc. Based on this, the 1st gen WDTV (which won the blind test) actually sucks, particularly for navigation but insofar as pq is concerned, I think that all media players are virtually equal in quality.
I agree. Having gone through several of the players myself I could hardly see any PQ difference among the players and this blind test confirmed my observations. Even if we were able to include the A200 and the WDTV Live (instead of the gen 1 WD TV), our conclusions will most likely be the same. To think this was done with a high end 1080p projector and a 133 inch screen. Lalo pang mahirap to see any difference on a 50 inch LCD/plasma and lower.
In other words, other factors, the player's specific features and own's own needs--including HD Audio capabilities--will determine which NMT to get.
Thanks again for the opportunity to participate in the blind test. ;D
Post by: juanch on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:34 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:35 PM
I agree. Having gone through several of the players myself I could hardly see any PQ difference among the players and this blind test confirmed my observations. Even if we were able to include the A200 and the WDTV Live (instead of the gen 1 WD TV), our conclusions will most likely be the same.
In other words, other factors, the player's specific features and one's own needs will determine which NMT to get.
Thanks again for the opportunity to participate in the blind test. ;D
Thanks for coming and bringing the Popcorn A200. Mabuti na lang at iningatan mo yun kasi ang sama talaga ng tingin ni Jake sa unit. ;D ;D
Honestly, the blind test was a lot of work but I think it was worth it. I suspect this was the first blind test ever for 5 different media players. I really expected the newer players to win so the result was a surprise to me.
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:41 PM
Thanks for coming and bringing the Popcorn A200. Mabuti na lang at iningatan mo yun kasi ang sama talaga ng tingin ni Jake sa unit. ;D ;D
Honestly, the blind test was a lot of work but I think it was worth it. I suspect this was the first blind test ever for 5 different media players. I really expected the newer players to win so the result was a surprise to me.
Hehe lahat naman curious sa "tupperware" na dala ko. ;D
Yes, it was worth it. :)
Post by: anchit on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:43 PM
Agree on all observasions, unles siguro we can make a side by side by side by side by side ( 5 na ba? ;) )dyan lang natin makikita ang difference ng mga NMTs used.
Again Happy Birthday sir!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:46 PM
Thanks for coming and bringing the Popcorn A200. Mabuti na lang at iningatan mo yun kasi ang sama talaga ng tingin ni Jake sa unit. ;D ;D
Honestly, the blind test was a lot of work but I think it was worth it. I suspect this was the first blind test ever for 5 different media players. I really expected the newer players to win so the result was a surprise to me.
i can attest to this, although when i came everything was set up already, getting to what we all saw was far from being simple, i have seen how sir mark and kagawad carefully programmed the sequence, made maybe thousands of pindots in the remote controls just to get the sequence right, just getting the right remote control in time is a tough act considering there were a lot on top of the table and there was a bit of frustrations when the Egreat and med8ter respond to the same remote control promting sir mark to work on the connections again.
the EB always become enjoyable not only because you get to meet your buddies again but you get to appreciate the passion sir mark and kagawad ayns have everytime they prepare for one
and oh by the way to those who went home early na miss nyo yung batuhan ng alaskahan nila sir mark at kagawad ayns talagang sasakit tyan nyo kakatawa para akong nanood ng dolphy at panchito.... sa saya t tawa ha hindi sa itsura ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:50 PM
and oh by the way to those who went home early na miss nyo yung batuhan ng alaskahan nila sir mark at kagawad ayns talagang sasakit tyan nyo kakatawa para akong nanood ng dolphy at panchito.... sa saya t tawa ha hindi sa itsura ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hwag sanang matapat na may family affair ako next time para di ko kelangang umalis agad hehe
Post by: iiinas on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:53 PM
i can attest to this, although when i came everything was set up already, getting to what we all saw was far from being simple, i have seen how sir mark and kagawad carefully programmed the sequence, made maybe thousands of pindots in the remote controls just to get the sequence right, just getting the right remote control in time is a tough act considering there were a lot on top of the table and there was a bit of frustrations when the Egreat and med8ter respond to the same remote control promting sir mark to work on the connections again.
the EB always become enjoyable not only because you get to meet your buddies again but you get to appreciate the passion sir mark and kagawad ayns have everytime they prepare for one
and oh by the way to those who went home early na miss nyo yung batuhan ng alaskahan nila sir mark at kagawad ayns talagang sasakit tyan nyo kakatawa para akong nanood ng dolphy at panchito.... sa saya t tawa ha hindi sa itsura ;D ;D ;D ;D
thanks brader tirso. it was fun preparing for these ebs. para makatambay kina sir mark. hehe.
sarap nga ng alaskahan nung huli. ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 08:58 PM
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Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:03 PM
nose bleed mode for newbie me ;D
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Hahaha! Ang galing naman ng pic mo! Nahilo talaga kami ni Iiinas sa dami ng remote. Kinakabahan talaga kami na magkamali kami ng pindot. ;D ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:05 PM
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Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:05 PM
thanks brader tirso. it was fun preparing for these ebs. para makatambay kina sir mark. hehe.
sarap nga ng alaskahan nung huli. ;D
ayos kagawad yung mga references mo alam ko na ngayon kung anong mga concert ang hahanapin ko, panalo yung kay leahne rhimes, ang ganda nya kase di ko na pinakiggan eh pinagmasdan ko na lang ang kanyang alindog ;D ;D ;D
at yung kwentuhang SVS, ewan ko na lang kung di pa bumili si braders andrew, johne at martin ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:07 PM
and oh by the way to those who went home early na miss nyo yung batuhan ng alaskahan nila sir mark at kagawad ayns talagang sasakit tyan nyo kakatawa para akong nanood ng dolphy at panchito.... sa saya t tawa ha hindi sa itsura ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hehe. Sa totoo, the after-EB party has become a tradition and for me, it's one of the best parts. Ang saya. Remember ... in vino, veritas ... ibig sabihin, nalalaman mo ugali ng tao kapag maraming red wine na. Hahaha! ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:09 PM
Hahaha! Ang galing naman ng pic mo! Nahilo talaga kami ni Iiinas sa dami ng remote. Kinakabahan talaga kami na magkamali kami ng pindot. ;D ;D
iba talaga pag nakakaintindi ng accupuncture eh, hindi mahihirapan sa pag pindot ;D ;D ;D
ako nanonood lang kay sir mark at kagawad pero nahihilo ako sa dami ng remote ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:10 PM
oo nga sir Mark... eto naman pampabawas ng hilo ...lots of food and drinks :D
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2q18212.jpg)
Beautiful shot! Ang galing naman ng wide angle lens mo! Sana may nakakuha ng pic ng camera ni @bass_nut! Higante! ;D ;D
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:10 PM
oo nga sir Mark... eto naman pampabawas ng hilo ...lots of food and drinks :Dalang maitago sa lens na ito doc! kuha lahat :D
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2q18212.jpg)
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:12 PM
oo nga sir Mark... eto naman pampabawas ng hilo ...lots of food and drinks :D
ibang hilo naramdaman ko dito doc, tingnan mo ung nakahain sa gitna, puro pampabata ;D pero masarap ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:13 PM
Hehe. Sa totoo, the after-EB party has become a tradition and for me, it's one of the best parts. Ang saya. Remember ... in vino, veritas ... ibig sabihin, nalalaman mo ugali ng tao kapag maraming red wine na. Hahaha! ;D ;D
ayos hahahahahaha. naaliw kami lahat eh lalo na yung part na "teka parang naging utusan an ako", panalo sa galak yun ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:13 PM
kagawad iiinas and team tabulating the results
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Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:14 PM
oo nga sir Mark... eto naman pampabawas ng hilo ...lots of food and drinks :D
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2q18212.jpg)
Let's see. Clockwise from bottom left and I hope wala ako mali -- Anchit, JohnE., Status, Alvinh, dts-hd 3d, juancho, nogie, Esi, Zedric, Onkyo606, stickfighter, pchin, gaol, mike c
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:17 PM
ayos hahahahahaha. naaliw kami lahat eh lalo na yung part na "teka parang naging utusan an ako", panalo sa galak yun ;D ;D ;D ;D
qualify ko lang po ha kase si kagawad aynss siguro mga 5 times nag request kay sir mark ng mga reference concert tracks eh nasa iba ibang blue ray pala yun kaya sir mark tayo upo tayo upo ;D ;D ;D ;D
pero ang nakakabilib, alam nya agad kung saan nakalagay yung particular na blue ray at dvd considering na ang dami nya talaga ;) ;)
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:20 PM
ayos hahahahahaha. naaliw kami lahat eh lalo na yung part na "teka parang naging utusan an ako", panalo sa galak yun ;D ;D ;D ;D
haha I agree... kasi may hihirit na .. "Sir mark, yung diana krall" ... sarap talga nung wine ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:20 PM
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Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:25 PM
MJ of the Philippines !!!!! ;D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/apjij9.jpg)
Hahaha!!! Huli si Tirso! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:28 PM
MJ of the Philippines !!!!! ;D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/apjij9.jpg)
ayos doc fer parang nag jajakston lang eh talagang maykel jakston ;D ;D ;D ;D
si brader jay kaya paa umuwi agad eh nakatingin pala habang nga sasayaw ako naalibadbaran yata ;D ;D ;D pero di bale may taga hanga naman ayun oh si brader luther ;D ;D ;D ;D
ayos yung video na lang kulang hahahahahaha
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:29 PM
Hahaha!!! Huli si Tirso! ;D ;D ;D
kitang kita ang ebidensya sir mark di makapag sinungaling ;D ;D ;D
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:30 PM
Sayang si nasama ang CinemaTube sa blind test as this is one of the NMT's I am considering to get. :-\
Based on the results of the blind test, I'm almost sure the PQ of this will also be very similar to the ones tested--as in you will have a hard time seeing a difference. Especially since it has a similar realtek to the xtreamer and mede8er.
Ang tanong na lang is if its feature set, price, user interface, support, etc. will meet your personal needs, wants and criteria. ;D
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:31 PM
MJ of the Philippines !!!!! ;D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/apjij9.jpg)
May show pa pala! Namiss ko eto hehe ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:33 PM
Based on the results of the blind test, I'm almost sure the PQ of this will also be very similar to the ones tested--as in you will have a hard time seeing a difference. Especially since it has a similar realtek to the xtreamer and mede8er.
Ang tanong na lang is if its feature set, price, user interface, support, etc. will meet your personal needs, wants and criteria. ;D
basta ako mede8er pag manonood ako ng educational movie ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:34 PM
May show pa pala! Namiss ko eto hehe ;D
naku sayang brader minsan lang yan kase bday ni sir mark mauulit yan sa next bday na ulit ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:37 PM
Based on the results of the blind test, I'm almost sure the PQ of this will also be very similar to the ones tested--as in you will have a hard time seeing a difference. Especially since it has a similar realtek to the xtreamer and mede8er.
Ang tanong na lang is if its feature set, price, user interface, support, etc. will meet your personal needs, wants and criteria. ;D
+1
I've actually seen the Cinematube in action and it's pq, as expected, is pretty good. The difference will be in all the other stuff that @gaol mentions.
Post by: iiinas on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:48 PM
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=110450.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=110450.0)
copy and pasted sir mark's comments.
add a few comments from myself. :)
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 09:56 PM
ibang hilo naramdaman ko dito doc, tingnan mo ung nakahain sa gitna, puro pampabata ;D pero masarap ;D
naku po.. daming tsitsaron !!! perfect matched sa beer !!! :D ;D
on topic:
all the sources and sir Mark's PJ were excellent as per my eyes.. quite difficult to spot the PQ difference of the various source
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:01 PM
posted a sticky thread on the blind test here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=110450.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=110450.0)
copy and pasted sir mark's comments.
add a few comments from myself. :)
also posted few comments myself :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:02 PM
naku po.. daming tsitsaron !!! perfect matched sa beer !!! :D ;D
on topic:
all the sources and sir Mark's PJ were excellent as per my eyes.. quite difficult to spot the PQ difference of the various source
but if you stayed to watch the educational movie, PQ would have been easy to distinguish ;D ;D ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:05 PM
but if you stayed to watch the educational movie, PQ would have been easy to distinguish ;D ;D ;D
was it the "edge enhancement" portion brother Tirso ? ..i agree it was detailed (and educational) :D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:12 PM
The scoring was 1-5, with 5 being the best. The results were quite surprising. The average scores were as follows:
1. WDTV (the 1st generation!) -- 4.40
2. Xtreamer -- 4.37
3. eGreat 31b -- 4.29
4. Popcorn Hour C200 -- 4.26
5. Mede8er 4.06
Ito ang gusto ko tuwing may EB...palaging may SHOCKER!!! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Maligayang pagbati po ginoong Mark!! Sana next time ang EB natin from 9PM-3AM naman. :D
Post by: docelmo on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:17 PM
The scoring was 1-5, with 5 being the best. The results were quite surprising. The average scores were as follows:
1. WDTV (the 1st generation!) -- 4.40
2. Xtreamer -- 4.37
3. eGreat 31b -- 4.29
4. Popcorn Hour C200 -- 4.26
5. Mede8er 4.06
WOW!!!! hehehe da best!!!
happy bday sir mark!!!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:25 PM
was it the "edge enhancement" portion brother Tirso ? ..i agree it was detailed (and educational) :D ;D
ahhhh nandun pa pala kayo ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 10:26 PM
Ito ang gusto ko tuwing may EB...palaging may SHOCKER!!! :o :o :o ;D ;D ;D
Maligayang pagbati po ginoong Mark!! Sana next time ang EB natin from 9PM-3AM naman. :D
teka teka, bakit nga pala wala ka brader donnel at si brader ricky,, hmmmm marami sigurong salupawpaw na dumarating anoh? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:14 PM
Si brader jake tuma timing lang to get some stolen shots ;D
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4394286922_2ac03cea7c_b.jpg)
no cheating please
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The generous host bday boy himself sir mark :)
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Is this an svs discussion? ;D ;D
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Ano kaya ang mananalo??
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bakit nawala ang marker ko jake?? ;D
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2763/4393501551_5576cf30cf_b.jpg)
It was nice meeting you all.. post ko sana ung picts ng scene 4 ba yun? kaso.. hihihi ;D ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:25 PM
Si brader jake tuma timing lang to get some stolen shots
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4394286922_2ac03cea7c_b.jpg)
no cheating please
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2774/4393539097_172e4f092c_b.jpg)
The generous host bday boy himself sir mark
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2773/4394279050_3808aecea2_b.jpg)
Is this an svs discussion?
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4060/4393497737_d99987df07_b.jpg)
Ano kaya ang mananalo??
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4017/4393493855_9c86d0be68_b.jpg)
bakit nawala ang marker ko jake??
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2763/4393501551_5576cf30cf_b.jpg)
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:26 PM
Post by: ESi on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:29 PM
Post by: frootloops on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:30 PM
teka teka, bakit nga pala wala ka brader donnel at si brader ricky,, hmmmm marami sigurong salupawpaw na dumarating anoh? ;D ;D ;D
Maghapon ako naglaba at masakit na ang mga kamay pagkatapos....si brader Ricky naman buong araw nagsasampay at nanakit na ang kilikili. ;D
May bago ka nanaman handle? Jichael "Tirso" Mackson 606!! (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/peace.gif)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:56 PM
uy nanalo pala ako!!! Hmmm. Makacollecta nga. hehehe. Pag wala ba eh default na ba yun sir mark?
naku doc angelo mukhang forfeited yata pag umuwi ng maaga eh hehehehehe.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 28, 2010 at 11:57 PM
Maghapon ako naglaba at masakit na ang mga kamay pagkatapos....si brader Ricky naman buong araw nagsasampay at nanakit na ang kilikili. ;D
May bago ka nanaman handle? Jichael "Tirso" Mackson 606!! (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/peace.gif)
patay tayo jan letter "J" na din ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 01, 2010 at 12:03 AM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4049/4394286922_2ac03cea7c_b.jpg)
twice ko na nakita in the flesh ang HT room ni sir mark and this picture depicts how huge it is.
the floor stander is even wider than the body of brader jazzy jake
gwapo nung floor stander but sorry sir mark, mas debonaire looking ang ating matinee idol na si fafa jake ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 05:27 AM
Thanks for coming and bringing the Popcorn A200. Mabuti na lang at iningatan mo yun kasi ang sama talaga ng tingin ni Jake sa unit. ;D ;D
Honestly, the blind test was a lot of work but I think it was worth it. I suspect this was the first blind test ever for 5 different media players. I really expected the newer players to win so the result was a surprise to me.
Hehe lahat naman curious sa "tupperware" na dala ko. ;D
Yes, it was worth it. :)
ahihihi... akala ko kasi adobo ang laman... gusto ko nang iuwi! ahihihi!
nice to meet you brader gaol!!! cheers!!!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 05:38 AM
twice ko na nakita in the flesh ang HT room ni sir mark and this picture depicts how huge it is.
the floor stander is even wider than the body of brader jazzy jake
gwapo nung floor stander but sorry sir mark, mas debonaire looking ang ating matinee idol na si fafa jake ;D ;D ;D
pa kiss nga! ahihihi!
Post by: iiinas on Mar 01, 2010 at 06:52 AM
haha I agree... kasi may hihirit na .. "Sir mark, yung diana krall" ... sarap talga nung wine ;D
hahaha. may "sir" naman. lab you sir mark. :D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:09 AM
uy nanalo pala ako!!! Hmmm. Makacollecta nga. hehehe. Pag wala ba eh default na ba yun sir mark?
Hehe ... Sorry but we unanimously decided that anyone who won but left would default. Otherwise, it would have been too difficult to distribute the winnings.
Our other choice would have been sauli pera (kasi nga wala nakapili ng WDTV) but that would have been the most magulo.
In the end, 2 ang nanalo - si Blackie and one more guy. Forget na who.
Post by: Munskie on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:33 AM
Post by: blackie on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:35 AM
Hehe ... Sorry but we unanimously decided that anyone who won but left would default. Otherwise, it would have been too difficult to distribute the winnings.The other winner was brother 3D-Luther :D
Our other choice would have been sauli pera (kasi nga wala nakapili ng WDTV) but that would have been the most magulo.
In the end, 2 ang nanalo - si Blackie and one more guy. Forget na who.
Thanks again for hosting EB and tank shootout Sir!
Belated Happy Birthday Greetings ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:40 AM
screen shots of the new PJ...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0455.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0456.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0457.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0458.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0464.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0469.jpg)
the beast! i kid you not...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0489.jpg)
ang tropa...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0473.jpg)
onkyo606: sana ganito ang buhay araw araw... movie, chicharon, movie, chicharon! sharap!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0475-1.jpg)
stickfighter: shhh... wag kayo maingay ha, nagreserve na ako ng SVS!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0477.jpg)
juancho: panoorin mo kung gano ka linaw ha...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0478.jpg)
dts-3d: o nga no!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0479.jpg)
marcrenz: sino kaya ang susunod na dadating para masingil ng pusta...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0480-1.jpg)
streetsmart: ok class, mamaya na ang educational videos ha...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0485.jpg)
jay2: pogi ko no!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0486.jpg)
pchin: the guys are so roudy la...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0487-1.jpg)
johne: teka teka nagpepektyur pala si brader jake, pose muna...mamaya na yang usapang SVS...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0488.jpg)
alvinh: hay... sana na kumbinse ko si wifey sa pag gawa ng HT room ko... dam-di-dam-di-dam...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0490.jpg)
blackie: akin kang chicharon ka!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0492-1.jpg)
gunblade777: sino naman kaya makuhanan ko...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0493-1.jpg)
set-up: hule!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0494-1.jpg)
jay2: akin lang tong mga alak na to ha! walang lalapit!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0495.jpg)
mikec: kasya kaya sa bag ko yung PJ ni mark?
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0496.jpg)
esi: grabe super ganda ng PQ ng PJ ni mark, naiiyak ako...waaaaaaaaa!
dts3d: doc, kayang kaya mo naman yan... bili na!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0497.jpg)
nogie: tsk tsk tsk nahuli ako... pasensya na at late...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0498.jpg)
marcrenz: pareng nogie huli ka... teka magbayad ka muna para sa pusta!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0501.jpg)
stickfighter: tsk... napasubo ata ako sa pagreserve ko ng SVS ah...
johne: hay... ako kaya? sana bonus na para mabili ko na din yung SVS!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0503.jpg)
onkyo606: sana palabas yung maykel jakston para makasayaw ako...nagpraktis pa naman ako sa banyo...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0504.jpg)
pchin: ok la, last scene na, punta na ako sa photoshoot ko...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0505-1.jpg)
gunblade777: ka bigat naman nitong camera na to...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0506.jpg)
blackie: wag niyo ko aagawan sa chicharon ha!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0507.jpg)
set-up: o tingnan niyo yung mga nakunan ko... danda danda no!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0516.jpg)
bass_nut: pasensya na at na late, ang layo layo pa ng pinanggalingan ko eh...
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0517.jpg)
mikec: tsk...di nagkasya sa bag ko yung PJ eh...
some shots of the scenes reviewed...
kamusta ang detail?
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0510.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0514.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0512.jpg)
para sa akin, panalo pa din itong adobo ni brader gaol! mabuhay ka brader!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/_MG_0502.jpg)
salamat sir mark sa pagimbita, pasensya na at umalis ako ng maaga... had a balikbayan childhood friend at the house for dinner.
nice meeting you guys again! cheers!
Post by: macdon on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:43 AM
@Macdon was supposed to bring a WD TV Live but on the day of the EB, nagkasakit sya so I had to use my WD TV, 1st gen. E kahit 1st gen, nanalo pa rin! ;D
Yup, my humble apologies for not being able to attend :( Been pretty busy lately kaya medyo bugbog ang katawan :P
Belated Happy Birthday nalang sir Mark - bawi nalang po next time ;)
Post by: blackie on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:45 AM
Inubos ko rin chicharon na dala ko ;D
Yes, the new projector is a beast!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:53 AM
Jazzy Jake good job on the photos and captions!
Inubos ko rin chicharon na dala ko ;D
Yes, the new projector is a beast!
yes indeed it is! funny it's smaller pala than the old one.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:53 AM
Sayang, sa video lang makita ang motion stutter (bounce) ng "kwan" ni Katherine Heigl.
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 01, 2010 at 07:58 AM
kagawad Mac, get well soon po ;)
sir Mark, meron tayo nakuha motion stutter.. post ko mamaya :D ;D
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Mar 01, 2010 at 08:07 AM
Anong cam yan, nice shots!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Mar 01, 2010 at 08:19 AM
Post by: mike c on Mar 01, 2010 at 08:26 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 09:06 AM
Hi Jake! Thanks for the photos and the thoughtful captions! Hahaha! Galing. ;D ;D ;D
Sayang, sa video lang makita ang motion stutter (bounce) ng "kwan" ni Katherine Heigl.
much welcome sir mark!
actually hirap na hirap ako kumuha ng pektyur ng "kwan" habang umiiskor sa shootout...
sana yan na lang kasi yung scene na paulit ulit. iniba niyo pa kasi eh. ahihihi!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 09:07 AM
i agree with bro Chan... very beautiful pictures and informative captions... thanks din nga pala sa mga drinks sir Jazzy Jake ;)
kagawad Mac, get well soon po ;)
sir Mark, meron tayo nakuha motion stutter.. post ko mamaya :D ;D
salamat doc fer! nice to have met you at the last EB. am glad you liked the drinks! cheers! hanggang sa susunod na pagkikita!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 09:08 AM
hehehe ganda ng mga captions and shots ni Jazzy Jake, nahuli talaga yung action and thoughts dun sa EB! Ayos nga yung detail dun sa "dresses" ni Katherine...oks din yung adobo ni gaol ;D
Anong cam yan, nice shots!
hi ditoy_eagle! sayang di po kayo nakarating. gusto ko pa naman sana makilala ang kinekwento nilang batikang awardee...
simple lang po yung cam, D40 lang po. ;)
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 01, 2010 at 09:33 AM
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 01, 2010 at 09:51 AM
marcrenz: sino kaya ang susunod na dadating para masingil ng pusta...precisely what i have in mind! ayoko na uli masabihan ni sir Mark na "you're not doing your job!" ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 01, 2010 at 09:58 AM
hi ditoy_eagle! sayang di po kayo nakarating. gusto ko pa naman sana makilala ang kinekwento nilang batikang awardee...
simple lang po yung cam, D40 lang po. ;)
pero naka 85mm 1.2L na lens!!! :o :o
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Mar 01, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 01, 2010 at 10:46 AM
here is motion blur or motion stutter due to fast dancin' pace rendered by MJ of the Philippines :D ;D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/1174whg.jpg)
Post by: alvinh on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:09 AM
But maganda itong rock song from the Blue Man Group...
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00128.jpg)
Si MJ wondering if the glove will fit...
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00131.jpg)
I wonder what this discussion is all about?
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00175.jpg)
Peace brada!
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00139.jpg)
How did the PJ perform? How life-like? hmmmm...let's ask Doc. ;D
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00140.jpg)
ahmmm....i wonder what's going on inside brader Martin's mind? ::) ;D ;D
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00146.jpg)
Nice to see you guys at Mark's place. Thanks again sa host natin. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:24 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:35 AM
next time ikaw naman sayaw "beat it" naman
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:36 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:37 AM
same here sir Jazzy Jake... i wish i could meet you and our buddies and our very generous host sir Mark again.. and again ;)
here is motion blur or motion stutter due to fast dancin' pace rendered by MJ of the Philippines :D ;D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/1174whg.jpg)
ayos ah para akong kutsero sa kyapo ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:37 AM
Ahhh...point and shoot lang kasi nakuha ko...
But maganda itong rock song from the Blue Man Group...
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00128.jpg)
Si MJ wondering if the glove will fit...
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00131.jpg)
I wonder what this discussion is all about?
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00175.jpg)
Peace brada!
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00139.jpg)
How did the PJ perform? How life-like? hmmmm...let's ask Doc. ;D
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00140.jpg)
ahmmm....i wonder what's going on inside brader Martin's mind? ::) ;D ;D
(http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n421/nivlah0224/DSC00146.jpg)
Nice to see you guys at Mark's place. Thanks again sa host natin. ;D ;D ;D
na-miss ko tong mga PDVD FAFA's ko !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:45 AM
na-miss ko tong mga PDVD FAFA's ko !!! ;D ;D ;D
di bale next EB sa bagong bahay sa ISLA , bagong bahay bagong HT kaya dapat may EB ;) ;) ;) ;)
Post by: alvinthx2 on Mar 01, 2010 at 11:50 AM
What more can I say, just a gourgeous picture and an awesome LOW end audio to boot. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Had the opportunity to come by Mark's place yesterday and I must say thet the projected image is really up among the best that I have seen. The "Wow" factor is really there because of the pictures dynamic range with a max White level of 29ftL on a 132 inch screen. I can only get around 10 to 12ftL via 100 inch on a PT-ae3000! The difference between the vw100 to the vw85 is absolutelly night and day. The color was rich but not over saturated, flesh tones were spot on. Screen uniformity and overall PQ was also excellent as if you are looking out of a window. There's also a 3D feel to the picture, maybe because of its superior video characteristics.
What more can I say, just a gourgeous picture and an awesome LOW end audio to boot. ;D
Thanks, Alvin! It was an honor to invite you over. As I explained to you, I wasn't really planning to upgrade my pj till by accident, I read the reviews of the Sony VPL-VW85.
After calibration, the RGB levels were almost spot on and the gamma was nearly perfect at 2.2 for the entire grayscale. As others have noted, post-calibration light output has only a very slight drop, unlike the VW100, which drops by almost 25%. It's only weakness is that it doesn't have a CMS but other reviewers have noted that out of the box, it's already pretty accurate. The contrast ratio is pretty unreal: Dynamic contrast ratio of 120,000. The JVC RS35 is supposed to have an even better native contrast ratio but I guess the difference will not be huge.
As you and I have noted, pq is relatively simple -- does it look real, does it look 3D? Using that criterion, the pj is pretty good.
With regard to the bass, the combination of acoustic treatment, 4 big subs, the SVS AS-EQ1 and Audyssey Pro have all contributed to producing a very accurate bass sound. It has taken a long time to get here but I think that now, it's pretty good. My only complaint is that my subs go only down to slightly below 20 Hz ... maybe another SVS sub would help? Hehe.
Thanks again for coming!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 01, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Thanks, Alvin! It was an honor to invite you over. As I explained to you, I wasn't really planning to upgrade my pj till by accident, I read the reviews of the Sony VPL-VW85.
After calibration, the RGB levels were almost spot on and the gamma was nearly perfect at 2.2 for the entire grayscale. As others have noted, post-calibration light output has only a very slight drop, unlike the VW100, which drops by almost 25%. It's only weakness is that it doesn't have a CMS but other reviewers have noted that out of the box, it's already pretty accurate. The contrast ratio is pretty unreal: Dynamic contrast ratio of 120,000. The JVC RS35 is supposed to have an even better native contrast ratio but I guess the difference will not be huge.
As you and I have noted, pq is relatively simple -- does it look real, does it look 3D? Using that criterion, the pj is pretty good.
With regard to the bass, the combination of acoustic treatment, 4 big subs, the SVS AS-EQ1 and Audyssey Pro have all contributed to producing a very accurate bass sound. It has taken a long time to get here but I think that now, it's pretty good. My only complaint is that my subs go only down to slightly below 20 Hz ... maybe another SVS sub would help? Hehe.
Thanks again for coming!
paging mr mike c, may sinasabi po si sir mark ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2010 at 12:55 PM
pero naka 85mm 1.2L na lens!!! :o :o
Parang gusto kong mag-upgrade ng camera lens ... Ang galing ng pics ni Jake. :o :o
Post by: mike c on Mar 01, 2010 at 12:56 PM
ang 130" screen ni sir mark naging parang plasma ang PQ
magiipon na ako para maging fraction lang of the PQ of sir mark's setup.
Post by: gaol on Mar 01, 2010 at 01:00 PM
ahihihi... akala ko kasi adobo ang laman... gusto ko nang iuwi! ahihihi!
nice to meet you brader gaol!!! cheers!!!
hehe kung mga educational video ang panooring mo dito e para na ring may pulutan ka hehehe ;D
Nice to meet you too bro, ganda-ganda nga pics mo, lumilitaw the smallest details sa screen kahit may suot ahehehe. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2010 at 01:11 PM
isa lang masasabi ko.
ang 130" screen ni sir mark naging parang plasma ang PQ
Yes, that's a pretty good comment. Plasma has unbelievable contrast ratio and this pj, in a dark room with black walls and ceiling, seems to be able to match it. I think you can see the effect most clearly in the pics of Charice which Jake took. Really dark blacks and then ang liwanag ng whites.
By the way, the screen is 133", not 130". ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 01, 2010 at 02:25 PM
same here sir Jazzy Jake... i wish i could meet you and our buddies and our very generous host sir Mark again.. and again ;)
here is motion blur or motion stutter due to fast dancin' pace rendered by MJ of the Philippines :D ;D
(http://i46.tinypic.com/1174whg.jpg)
brader wala ba na moon walk ;D mayron pa talagang MJ sa na ginagaya ;D puwede ba pa copy nung video na yan ;D
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 01, 2010 at 02:33 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 01, 2010 at 02:39 PM
sir Von sayang my old cam do not have video capture capability.. otherwise, baka na-discover na sa YouTube si bro Tirso after our EB at ng makahingi tayo kay bro Tirso ng balato pambili ng SVS, Sony HD PJ, etc :D ;D ;D
sayang Doc Fer at na miss ko talaga yung EB nung saturday. kung bakit ba naman sa dami dami nung araw yung brader in law ko napili pa yung date na kasabay yung EB :( :( next time Doc kita kits ulit sa ating tagpuan (house ni Sir Mark)
sir Mark absent ako pero yung representative ko na is yung Alterra mo ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2010 at 02:55 PM
sir Mark absent ako pero yung representative ko na is yung Alterra mo ;D
Ay tama! Dumating Alterra ng Sabado. Thanks ng marami, Von! :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 01, 2010 at 03:17 PM
hindi nga kasya yung PJ sa bag ko ... pero sana yung "instamatic" mo na lang tinarget ko ... ang galing mag cut ng foreground and background.
boss mike, kahit dalawa pa nito bagay na bagay sa camera mo!!!
Ganda ng mga shots mo brader jake, specially yung pinaka paboritong screen shot scene na ni review during the shootout ;D ;D .salamat sir sa soda's. ;)
am glad you like the soda's sir! salamat din po!
nice shots sir jake!precisely what i have in mind! ayoko na uli masabihan ni sir Mark na "you're not doing your job!" ;D ;D ;D
ahihihi! oo nga... yun sana nga ilalagay ko eh... ehehehe!
pero naka 85mm 1.2L na lens!!! :o :o
haha nampucha yan ang lens na pamatay! huwag mong imaliit yan D40, hanep pa ding PQ nyan. It's in the lens and of course the indian ;D
Parang gusto kong mag-upgrade ng camera lens ... Ang galing ng pics ni Jake. :o :o
sirs nang hiram lang po sa kapit bahay ng lente... ahihihi!
aba ito palang si idol jake eh pwede ring pumasok sa komiks, para akong nag babasa ng captions sa komiks eh, magaling mag kodak, magaling mag caption, gwaping aba san ka pa? penge nga po ng gatorade nanuyo lalamunan ko sa MJ dance eh ;D next time ikaw naman sayaw "beat it" naman
nakows, parehong kaliwa itong paa ko sir!
isa lang masasabi ko. ang 130" screen ni sir mark naging parang plasma ang PQ magiipon na ako para maging fraction lang of the PQ of sir mark's setup.
natumbok mo sir mike... talagang napakaganda ng kulay nung PJ na yun at di hamak na malinaw ang PQ. hay, kahit siguro in my next life eh mahihirapan ako...
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 03, 2010 at 02:18 PM
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 03, 2010 at 02:49 PM
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 03, 2010 at 02:54 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2a4uz47.jpg)
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 03, 2010 at 02:59 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 03, 2010 at 03:04 PM
(http://i49.tinypic.com/2nlgsy1.jpg)NICE ANGLE! 8) 8)
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 03, 2010 at 03:10 PM
some of our buddies with our very kind and very generous host sir Mark
(http://i46.tinypic.com/6jlqg9.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 03, 2010 at 03:53 PM
thanks bro babez 8)
some of our buddies with our very kind and very generous host sir Mark
(http://i46.tinypic.com/6jlqg9.jpg)
Hi doc! Thanks for the follow-up pics. Looks like this is the start of the post-EB EB (red wine na kasi), which is always just as interesting. ;D ;D
Mahirap kung absent ka kasi baka ikaw ang pag-usapan. ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 03, 2010 at 04:21 PM
Hi doc! Thanks for the follow-up pics. Looks like this is the start of the post-EB EB (red wine na kasi), which is always just as interesting. ;D ;D
Mahirap kung absent ka kasi baka ikaw ang pag-usapan. ;D
kaya ako lagi last. hehehe. ;D
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 03, 2010 at 05:25 PM
Congrats guys. Anyway great pics and btw congrats on your alterra. I recently bought that car also. Great ride and great legroom ;). The legroom is the reason I chose this over fortuner or montero ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 03, 2010 at 06:27 PM
Sir Mark, belated happy birthday. Btw, you look younger sa pics. ;) I think its bec of the color of your shirt. It really makes you look younger hahaha.. ;) :D
Congrats guys. Anyway great pics and btw congrats on your alterra. I recently bought that car also. Great ride and great legroom ;). The legroom is the reason I chose this over fortuner or montero ;D
Hi Raymund! Thanks for the greeting!
Para sa Alterra mo, in case you have any trouble, call @vtec3! :) :)
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 03, 2010 at 06:53 PM
Hi Raymund! Thanks for the greeting!
Para sa Alterra mo, in case you have any trouble, call @vtec3! :) :)
Ya nga, when I bought it few months ago, I did not notice his avatar, nasa isuzu na pala siya. Sayang bought from him.. I thought nasa honda pa sya..Anyway make sure you chain lock your spare tire (I did not know its better to do that, stupid me. ;D) Na isahan ako man. My spare tire was stolen, bad trip nga. Sa malls suspect ko nawala or at a hotel when I valet park on new years eve.. Good thing insurance hehe..
Post by: blackie on Mar 04, 2010 at 10:26 AM
heavy droooool mode din ako sa huge collection ni sir Mark
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2a4uz47.jpg)
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 04, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Ya nga, when I bought it few months ago, I did not notice his avatar, nasa isuzu na pala siya. Sayang bought from him.. I thought nasa honda pa sya..Anyway make sure you chain lock your spare tire (I did not know its better to do that, stupid me. ;D) Na isahan ako man. My spare tire was stolen, bad trip nga. Sa malls suspect ko nawala or at a hotel when I valet park on new years eve.. Good thing insurance hehe..
dito sa street parallel Espana, dami ko nakikita benta mags na Alterra. hay naku probably dun nila yun binebenta after nila nakawin :(
Post by: frootloops on Mar 04, 2010 at 02:22 PM
Baka kelangan mo ng stay in driver sir mark pwede ako...basta sa HT mo ako matutulog. ;D
Post by: blackie on Mar 04, 2010 at 02:39 PM
Iba talaga mag regalo sa sarili si sir Mark...new SUV and PJ!! :o :o :o
Baka kelangan mo ng stay in driver sir mark pwede ako...basta sa HT mo ako matutulog. ;D
BBD wala pala kayo ni brother ricky nung shootout? :-\
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 04, 2010 at 04:01 PM
Iba talaga mag regalo sa sarili si sir Mark...new SUV and PJ!! :o :o :o
D bago ang SUV. Bagong repair ni @vtec3. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 04, 2010 at 04:59 PM
dito sa street parallel Espana, dami ko nakikita benta mags na Alterra. hay naku probably dun nila yun binebenta after nila nakawin :(
Sorry for ot ;D..Hi sir Von, ya man thats what really ticks me off. Dapat mga yan huliin talaga >:(. Na pa estimate na ako sa inyo, man expensive pala just that one mag with tires :o, sulit na ako sa insurance ko hehe..
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 05, 2010 at 06:56 AM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/1174whg.jpg)sino yung naka black sa gitna malapit sa pj? kamukha kasi nung officemate ko eh :)may kamukha ako? malas naman nya... :D
Post by: sanmig_ph on Mar 06, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 06, 2010 at 01:13 PM
Great Shots Doc Fer!!! :o :o :o
thanks bro Chan and friends ... sir Mark's kindness and his HT/Audio room always inspiring 8)
bro Iiinas explaining parts of the blind test result
(http://i47.tinypic.com/2dr84cn.jpg)
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 06, 2010 at 01:20 PM
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Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 06, 2010 at 02:50 PM
more tech intensive discussionsparang tinuturan lang si bro mark mag-sayaw :D :D
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Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 06, 2010 at 03:53 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 06, 2010 at 04:58 PM
Sarap talaga manood ng movies at concerts sa theather room nyo Sir Mark :D nakaka miss ung clarity ng pj nyo.dami rin matutunan sa PDVD members na nakilala ko. di ko akalain sir na may ganyan pala kalinaw na pj ;D lalo na sa drum session ng blue man group :o di maalis sa isip ko ;D ;D ;D sana may EB ulit.. :D
Thanks, Christian!
Nag-order na nga ako ng Blue Man Group ni Alvinh. Ang galing, nakakatawa tapos ganda pa ng audio. ;D
Just had a party sa bahay. Nanood kami ng Pacquiao. ;D ;D Everyone commented nga na parang 3D. Lumulutang ang mga images. :)
Post by: tonedeaf on Mar 06, 2010 at 07:58 PM
The scoring was 1-5, with 5 being the best. The results were quite surprising. The average scores were as follows:
1. WDTV (the 1st generation!) -- 4.40
2. Xtreamer -- 4.37
3. eGreat 31b -- 4.29
4. Popcorn Hour C200 -- 4.26
5. Mede8er 4.06
Hey! I'm so happy to hear about this. Last year ko lang nabili WDTV ko, pero parang luma na siya due to the sheer number of available alternatives, including those produced by WD as well. Good that it's still up to par, performance wise :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 06, 2010 at 10:04 PM
Hey! I'm so happy to hear about this. Last year ko lang nabili WDTV ko, pero parang luma na siya due to the sheer number of available alternatives, including those produced by WD as well. Good that it's still up to par, performance wise :)
Hi Meg! Nice to hear from you again! Yup, pq-wise, WDTV is still retty good.
Post by: bass_nut on Mar 11, 2010 at 11:54 AM
kudoz to sir Mark and team !!! 8)
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Post by: vtec3 on Mar 11, 2010 at 02:52 PM
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Post by: iiinas on Mar 11, 2010 at 02:56 PM
sir mayron ka ba upcoming upgrade :o
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tsalap tsalap naman yan. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 11, 2010 at 02:59 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 11, 2010 at 03:21 PM
Sino na naman nagkakalat ng unfounded rumors??? >:( >:(
ay naku baka mali yung nabasa ko dun sa isang thread sa marketplace
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 11, 2010 at 08:34 PM
ay naku baka mali yung nabasa ko dun sa isang thread sa marketplace
Hahaha! Tama ka. Hay naku ... wala talagang sekreto sa Pinoydvd ... ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 11, 2010 at 08:41 PM
hehehe
;D ;D ;D
Post by: frootloops on Mar 11, 2010 at 08:46 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 PM
belated happy birthday bro :D
Post by: yygoob on Mar 11, 2010 at 11:20 PM
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 12, 2010 at 12:36 AM
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WHAT!!! :o :o :o :o meron na namang darating na halimaw na gear Sir Mark? naku! EB ulit yan. punasan ko muna @#way ko ;D ;D ;D congrats po :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM
sir mayron ka ba upcoming upgrade :o
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panalo congrats in advance sir mark ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:04 AM
It will take time to set it up properly cuz I plan to do a 10.4 set-up, which will include the Audyssey Wide and Height speakers. I cannot use my present surround speakers kasi dipole sila - has to be direct-firing. I will have to temporarily use my JBL speakers pero kulang pa rin. Hahanap pa ako ng bagay na speakers.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:08 AM
Hay naku ... kaya dapat secret ito. Mga one month pa before it arrives in Manila. After that, I hope it works properly (dasal lang).
It will take time to set it up properly cuz I plan to do a 10.4 set-up, which will include the Audyssey Wide and Height speakers. I cannot use my present surround speakers kasi dipole sila - has to be direct-firing. I will have to temporarily use my JBL speakers pero kulang pa rin. Hahanap pa ako ng bagay na speakers.
ahem... parang may matinditindi na namang upgrade! nice!
Post by: iiinas on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:09 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:21 AM
may bagong pila sa digms.... ;D
Langya! Ang bilis talaga ni kagawad. Tama ka. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:23 AM
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ahem... parang may matinditindi na namang upgrade! nice!
May secret project kami ni Jay2. Kung matuloy yun, that could potentially be a huge improvement.
Post by: iiinas on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:38 AM
Langya! Ang bilis talaga ni kagawad. Tama ka. ;D ;D
ahem, basta kung palitan mo yung isa, ako na una sa pila ha! ;D
Post by: John E. on Mar 12, 2010 at 07:39 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 12, 2010 at 08:01 AM
ahem, basta kung palitan mo yung isa, ako na una sa pila ha! ;D
ikaw talaga! inunahan mo ko dun ah! ahahaha!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 09:20 AM
ikaw talaga! inunahan mo ko dun ah! ahahaha!
I might need to change 2 pairs of the Paradigm dipole speakers.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 12, 2010 at 09:28 AM
Hay naku ... kaya dapat secret ito. Mga one month pa before it arrives in Manila. After that, I hope it works properly (dasal lang).
It will take time to set it up properly cuz I plan to do a 10.4 set-up, which will include the Audyssey Wide and Height speakers. I cannot use my present surround speakers kasi dipole sila - has to be direct-firing. I will have to temporarily use my JBL speakers pero kulang pa rin. Hahanap pa ako ng bagay na speakers.
ayan may pwede nang reason for another EB ;) ;) ;) ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:14 AM
ahem, basta kung palitan mo yung isa, ako na una sa pila ha! ;D
ikaw talaga! inunahan mo ko dun ah! ahahaha!
I might need to change 2 pairs of the Paradigm dipole speakers.
ayun naman pala eh!
tig-1 pair na kayo! everybody happy !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Post by: mike c on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:50 AM
sir mark, meron po kayong illustration/diagram ng 10 speaker setup na plan mo? :)
Take a look at the diagram in this link: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dsx.html
Instead of 11 speakers, I would have 10 kasi I will have only one surround back speaker. It will need some rearranging of furniture.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:51 AM
nakows! hindi yun ang target namin ni iiinas eh... ::) ::) ::)
Parang vulture talaga itong si Jake ... ;D ;D ;D
Kung matuloy project namin ni Jay2, dami pa ibebenta.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:54 AM
ayun naman pala eh!
tig-1 pair na kayo! everybody happy !!! ;D ;D ;D
WAG NG MAG PATUMPIK TUMPIK PA VANAT NAAAAAA. ;D
Post by: mike c on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:06 AM
Take a look at the diagram in this link: http://www.audyssey.com/technology/dsx.html
Instead of 11 speakers, I would have 10 kasi I will have only one surround back speaker. It will need some rearranging of furniture.
interesting ;)
medyo malaking investment nga lang (extra speakers, new receiver)
which receiver yan sir mark na incoming?
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:19 AM
interesting ;)
medyo malaking investment nga lang (extra speakers, new receiver)
which receiver yan sir mark na incoming?
sir mic yung receiver naka picture sa taas ;) Denon AVR4810CI
Post by: mike c on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:24 AM
hala humaba na ang reply sa bagong hapgreyd ;D
sir mic yung receiver naka picture sa taas ;)
hindi ko kasi kabisado na mga model numbers ... ayaw ko tumingin kasi ayaw ko mag upgrade :)
pag si sir mark ... hula ko minimum
edit: 7.1 lang pala 4310
ngayon mas curious na ako ...
yung 4810 9 channels lang ...
edit2: downloading the 4810 manual now
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM
hindi ko kasi kabisado na mga model numbers ... ayaw ko tumingin kasi ayaw ko mag upgrade :)
pag si sir mark ... hula ko minimum4310or 4810 (baka kasi binili ni sir mark yung denon pre-pro)
edit: 7.1 lang pala 4310
ngayon mas curious na ako ...
yung 4810 9 channels lang ...
The 4810 has 9 internal amps. If you want to have more than 9 speakers, you will need to provide your own external amp. Since I have 3 external power amps, that's not a problem.
Right now, the 4810 is the only receiver in the market that can do a true 11.1, with both Audyssey Width & Height speakers. Not even the high-end Denon prepro can do it.
Post by: mike c on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:34 AM
The 4810 has 9 internal amps. If you want to have more than 9 speakers, you will need to provide your own external amp. Since I have 3 external power amps, that's not a problem.
Right now, the 4810 is the only receiver in the market that can do a true 11.1, with both Audyssey Width & Height speakers. Not even the high-end Denon prepro can do it.
got it. hmm at least sa amps wala rin ako problem :)
mukhang di ko lang kaya yung receiver. yung speakers madali pa yun e.
Post by: gaol on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:36 AM
sir mayron ka ba upcoming upgrade :o
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Wow! Ganda-ganda niyan Sir Mark! ;D
What do you plan for the old 4308 (tama ba?).? Baka swak pang-upgrade kung abot-kaya hehe
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 11:43 AM
Wow! Ganda-ganda niyan Sir Mark! ;D
What do you plan for the old 4308 (tama ba?).? Baka swak pang-upgrade kung abot-kaya hehe
Current AVR is a 3808CI, which includes an Audyssey Pro license. May pila na. ;D
Post by: gaol on Mar 12, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Current AVR is a 3808CI, which includes an Audyssey Pro license. May pila na. ;D
Hehe Papila na rin .... ;D
Post by: mike c on Mar 12, 2010 at 01:18 PM
LH and LR smaller than mains?
LW and RW same size as mains?
trying to add up possible cost kasi :D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2010 at 02:09 PM
sir mark, anong plan mo ...
LH and LR smaller than mains?
LW and RW same size as mains?
trying to add up possible cost kasi :D
I think you are referring to the height and width channels. Audyssey recommends that they are at least of the same family as the other speakers. However:
1. The height channels will surely be bookshelf because they are ceiling-mounted.
2. A lot of people have commented that there is not a huge amount of sound coming from both the height and width channels, at least as compared to the fronts and the center.
3. Audyssey EQ helps to make the timbre of different speakers sound similar.
Therefore:
1. I will use bookshelves for the height channels.
2. I will use a floorstander for the wide channels.
3. Initially, I will use totally different speakers for wide/height (JBL) as compared to the fronts and center (PSB) because those are the extra speakers that I already have. I am guessing that the sound will already be pretty good, in which case I won't need to change the speakers. I don't think that the difference in speaker brand/model will make that much difference. Of course, this also saves money for me cuz I don't need to buy new speakers.
Give me some time to set everything up and then I'll invite you over to listen.
Post by: mike c on Mar 12, 2010 at 02:27 PM
mukhang kailangan ko magipon ng todo. siguro in 10 years meron na rin ako niyan ;D
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 12, 2010 at 02:53 PM
Current AVR is a 3808CI, which includes an Audyssey Pro license. May pila na. ;Dagawan sa surrounds, pila sa receiver... swerte ko naman walang kaagaw sa kukunin ko kay sir mark. ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 12, 2010 at 05:10 PM
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 13, 2010 at 12:57 AM
agawan sa surrounds, pila sa receiver... swerte ko naman walang kaagaw sa kukunin ko kay sir mark. ;D
Ano kaya yung walang kaagaw na yun ?? ;D ;D pm mo sa akin ha ;)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 13, 2010 at 12:58 PM
mas bagay 13 ultra sa HT mo sir Mark . . . ako pipila sa PB12 :D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 13, 2010 at 03:06 PM
mas bagay 13 ultra sa HT mo sir Mark . . . ako pipila sa PB12 :D
galeng brader luther... ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 13, 2010 at 03:37 PM
mas bagay 13 ultra sa HT mo sir Mark . . . ako pipila sa PB12 :D
pa next in line na lang sir. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 13, 2010 at 04:08 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 13, 2010 at 04:36 PM
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Post by: streetsmart on Mar 14, 2010 at 07:04 AM
mas bagay 13 ultra sa HT mo sir Mark . . . ako pipila sa PB12 :D
Balita ko, meron bibitaw sa kanyang dalawang 13 ultra. Yun ang kaabang-abang.
Kahapon, dumaan sa bahay si John of AV Driver. Happy sya sa pj at nanood kami ng bd ng "Up." Pinaganda pa nya lalo ang pq! I learned something again from him -- how to focus the lens!
Post by: iiinas on Mar 14, 2010 at 07:22 AM
Balita ko, meron bibitaw sa kanyang dalawang 13 ultra. Yun ang kaabang-abang.
Kahapon, dumaan sa bahay si John of AV Driver. Happy sya sa pj at nanood kami ng bd ng "Up." Pinaganda pa nya lalo ang pq! I learned something again from him -- how to focus the lens!
dalawang member lang kilala kong may 2 svs ultra.... :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 14, 2010 at 07:23 AM
Balita ko, meron bibitaw sa kanyang dalawang 13 ultra. Yun ang kaabang-abang.bro mark, does this mean there are other types of tweak aside from getting a clear view? this i oughta see/read :D
Kahapon, dumaan sa bahay si John of AV Driver. Happy sya sa pj at nanood kami ng bd ng "Up." Pinaganda pa nya lalo ang pq! I learned something again from him -- how to focus the lens!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 14, 2010 at 07:36 AM
bro mark, does this mean there are other types of tweak aside from getting a clear view? this i oughta see/read :D
For focus -- get really close to the screen (inches away). De-focus the lens and you will not see the pixels. Slowly focus the lens and the pixels will start to appear, including the gaps between pixels. Keep doing that till it starts de-focusing again.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 14, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Balita ko, meron bibitaw sa kanyang dalawang 13 ultra. Yun ang kaabang-abang.
Kahapon, dumaan sa bahay si John of AV Driver. Happy sya sa pj at nanood kami ng bd ng "Up." Pinaganda pa nya lalo ang pq! I learned something again from him -- how to focus the lens!
kahit alam ko kung sino to, hanggang balita na lang ako hehehehehe, swerte ng bagong mag may ari nito siguradong sa magandang presyo bibitawan
sir mark maganda na gumanda pa dapat pala EB ulit baka iba na ang dating ng edge enhancement sa mga educational films ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 14, 2010 at 06:26 PM
For focus -- get really close to the screen (inches away). De-focus the lens and you will not see the pixels. Slowly focus the lens and the pixels will start to appear, including the gaps between pixels. Keep doing that till it starts de-focusing again.thanks bro mark, will try this later :)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 15, 2010 at 12:00 PM
pa next in line na lang sir. ;D
sir Jake di daw pala kasama ang pb12 sa plano ;D
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 15, 2010 at 12:26 PM
Ano kaya yung walang kaagaw na yun ?? ;D ;D pm mo sa akin ha ;)wag mo na paginteresan yun lang kaya kong bilhin. ;D ;D
kahit alam ko kung sino to, hanggang balita na lang ako hehehehehe, swerte ng bagong mag may ari nito siguradong sa magandang presyo bibitawanoo nga baka nawala na yung edge enhancement super linaw na! ;D
sir mark maganda na gumanda pa dapat pala EB ulit baka iba na ang dating ng edge enhancement sa mga educational films ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 15, 2010 at 10:37 PM
sir Jake di daw pala kasama ang pb12 sa plano ;D
yikes! ganun ba? so wala na yung line...
dibale, basta nagbukas ulit una na ako sa pila ha! ahihihi!
::) ::) ::)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 15, 2010 at 10:55 PM
yikes! ganun ba? so wala na yung line...
dibale, basta nagbukas ulit una na ako sa pila ha! ahihihi!
::) ::) ::)
Ha??? Ibang pila yata ang pinuntahan mo! Pila ka na sa SVS PB-13 Ultra ... di ko pila yun .. ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 15, 2010 at 11:28 PM
yikes! ganun ba? so wala na yung line...
dibale, basta nagbukas ulit una na ako sa pila ha! ahihihi!
::) ::) ::)
Nyak! :D
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 16, 2010 at 08:24 AM
wag mo na paginteresan yun lang kaya kong bilhin. ;D ;D
goodluck sir mackrenz :)
Wow! dami ko nabasang pila dito.. ;D ;D talagang kaabang abang :o :o ang bawat gamit sa theather ni sir mark na bibitawan nya.
Post by: nogie on Mar 16, 2010 at 09:40 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 16, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Huwaw sir Mark!! Another monster upgrade, astig! .... this is my dream avr too. When is the next EB? Congrats! ;D
Hi Nogie! Baka one month pa bago dumating bagong AVR. It will also take time to set up the new speaker system, including new brackets. Based on what I've read, the new system is supposed to result in a much wider soundstage. Curious ako because I've never experienced this speaker setup.
Once it is installed, gawa ako ng review.
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 16, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Hi Nogie! Baka one month pa bago dumating bagong AVR. It will also take time to set up the new speaker system, including new brackets. Based on what I've read, the new system is supposed to result in a much wider soundstage. Curious ako because I've never experienced this speaker setup.bro mark, ano yung mga plano mo palitan aside from the avr?may matitira pa bang luma sa system or yung bar nalang ;D ;D
Once it is installed, gawa ako ng review.
Post by: nogie on Mar 16, 2010 at 11:21 AM
Once it is installed, gawa ako ng review.
Looking forward to it... Pati mga ididispose na gears sa marketplace. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 16, 2010 at 11:28 AM
bro mark, ano yung mga plano mo palitan aside from the avr?may matitira pa bang luma sa system or yung bar nalang ;D ;D
I don't like to upgrade naman unless I'm sure there will be a significant improvement. I'll probably get a few monopole speakers and sell my Paradigm dipole speakers.
Post by: leomar on Mar 16, 2010 at 02:09 PM
Idol talaga! ;D
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 17, 2010 at 10:55 AM
Looking forward to it... Pati mga ididispose na gears sa marketplace. ;D ;Dbrader di na yata kailangan mag-post ng ifs si sir mark, mahaba na pila... ;D
i'm almost sure kay double j ang at least 1 pair paradigm surrounds.
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 26, 2010 at 01:12 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 26, 2010 at 03:43 PM
In the first place, nasa boat pa ang Denon! :)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 26, 2010 at 04:01 PM
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 26, 2010 at 04:38 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 27, 2010 at 01:04 AM
Actually, I've decided right now to do 11.4, but it will take some time to do it. ;D ;Dwow bro !! btw pano distribution nun as center, fronts, surrounds? ;D
In the first place, nasa boat pa ang Denon! :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 27, 2010 at 01:47 AM
wow bro !! btw pano distribution nun as center, fronts, surrounds? ;D
Hope o get it correctly sir mark
Front - 2
Front Wide - 2
Front Height - 2
Center - 1
Surround - 2
Surround Back - 2
Subwoofers - 4
11.4 channel
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 27, 2010 at 08:44 AM
Hope o get it correctly sir mark
Front - 2
Front Wide - 2
Front Height - 2
Center - 1
Surround - 2
Surround Back - 2
Subwoofers - 4
11.4 channel
Galing talaga ni Tirso! Perfect! :)
Post by: iiinas on Mar 27, 2010 at 09:18 AM
Actually, I've decided right now to do 11.4, but it will take some time to do it. ;D ;D
In the first place, nasa boat pa ang Denon! :)
anakanang....
11.4!!! :o
HANEP!!! :o
Post by: rap2x on Mar 27, 2010 at 09:38 AM
Dream HT talaga - as in pangarap na lang ako dito :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 27, 2010 at 10:22 AM
Galing talaga ni Tirso! Perfect! :)
tinuro nyo lang din po sa akin yun ;)
pati yung dsx binasa ko yung mga nirefer nyo na readings sa akin
teka teka mukahang malapit na yung daung ng barko o bka nanjan na ;D ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 27, 2010 at 10:56 AM
11.4, 11.4, 11.4
nag iisa lang yata yan dito sa PDVD, setting the bar high talaga.. ;) ;) ;)
Post by: jay2 on Mar 27, 2010 at 10:58 AM
11.4... ano kayang speaker ang idadagdag ni sir Streetsmart? Apat pa ba kailangan?
Actually, I've decided right now to do 11.4, but it will take some time to do it. ;D ;D
In the first place, nasa boat pa ang Denon! :)
20 days na lang!!! :D sana "magka-tailwind" para masmapaaga dating ng barko ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 27, 2010 at 03:43 PM
Hope o get it correctly sir markbro tirso since tama yung paliwanag mo may tanong pa ako ;D
Front - 2
Front Wide - 2
Front Height - 2
Center - 1
Surround - 2
Surround Back - 2
Subwoofers - 4
11.4 channel
ano yung front wide and front height? :)
Post by: zekiber2 on Mar 28, 2010 at 07:04 AM
akala ko lumindol ulit 11.4 intensity ng lindol wew :-[
pero literally lakas ng dating nung setup na yan, nabasa ko sa review mas nakakatakot na mga scary movie hehe
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 18, 2010 at 12:48 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 18, 2010 at 04:37 PM
Ang tahimik dito ah, work in progress na ba sir mark? ;D ;D picts naman dyan ng kraken receiver nyo na may pang 11.4 na kamay ;D ;D ;D ;)
Very malapit na dumating ...
Post by: TOY 01 on Apr 20, 2010 at 10:48 AM
Very malapit na dumating ...
Sir dito na yun Denon... :)
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 20, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Sir dito na yun Denon... :)AYAN NA!!!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 20, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Touchdown!
Post by: blackie on Apr 20, 2010 at 03:32 PM
:o :o :o :o :o :o
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 20, 2010 at 05:38 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 20, 2010 at 06:02 PM
Sinusundo na sya ... ;)
Woohoo congrats sir Mark for the new gear! Do I smell another EB coming up? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/36.gif)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 20, 2010 at 06:08 PM
Sinusundo na sya ... ;)
uy! kailan kaya puwede sunduin yung isa? ;D
Post by: gaol on Apr 20, 2010 at 08:57 PM
Brader Jake, I guess hindi na aabot sakin ang pila hehehe ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 20, 2010 at 11:09 PM
Wow, congrats sa wakas, Mark! EB uli? ;)
Brader Jake, I guess hindi na aabot sakin ang pila hehehe ;D
brader arn, teka ano ba yang pinipilahan mo? anong number? ahihihi!
Post by: gaol on Apr 20, 2010 at 11:26 PM
brader arn, teka ano ba yang pinipilahan mo? anong number? ahihihi!
brader jake, yung pila sa lotto para magka-dream theater din ako na kasing astig ng kay mark hehehe ;D
pero happy na rin ako kung sakaling tumama ako sa numerong 38-08. ahehehe ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 21, 2010 at 06:09 AM
brader jake, yung pila sa lotto para magka-dream theater din ako na kasing astig ng kay mark hehehe ;D
pero happy na rin ako kung sakaling tumama ako sa numerong 38-08. ahehehe ;D
eh brader baka gusto mong pumila dun sa kabila... meron daw dun ibang numero ng ticket - 08-75!
sasamahan kitang pumila... diba sir mark!??! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Apr 21, 2010 at 07:16 AM
eh brader baka gusto mong pumila dun sa kabila... meron daw dun ibang numero ng ticket - 08-75!
sasamahan kitang pumila... diba sir mark!??! ;D
palitan na!!!
Post by: iiinas on Apr 21, 2010 at 07:17 AM
Sir dito na yun Denon... :)
Sinusundo na sya ... ;)
and the eagle has landed!!!
Post by: John E. on Apr 21, 2010 at 07:49 AM
and the eagle has landed!!!
congrats! EB! ;D
Post by: mike c on Apr 21, 2010 at 07:52 AM
how fast can you set it up? :D
kelan EB
congrats!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 21, 2010 at 07:55 AM
Post by: gaol on Apr 21, 2010 at 08:11 AM
eh brader baka gusto mong pumila dun sa kabila... meron daw dun ibang numero ng ticket - 08-75!
sasamahan kitang pumila... diba sir mark!??! ;D
Saan yang pilan yan? Magkano ba ang ticket diyan? hehe ;D
Post by: iiinas on Apr 21, 2010 at 09:03 AM
streetsmart: Denon AVR4810CI - PAID/PICK UP
WOOHOO!!!
Post by: bass_nut on Apr 21, 2010 at 09:06 AM
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 21, 2010 at 10:00 AM
meron daw dun ibang numero ng ticket - 08-75!brader dyake mukhang magandang pilahan ang palabas na 08-75 na yan ah, magkano nga ba ang ticket? ;D CONGRATS SIR MARK!! :D :D :D
sasamahan kitang pumila... diba sir mark!??! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2010 at 10:21 AM
Madaling araw na ako nakatulog … I had to make a big rearrangement of furniture, followed by re-calibration with the SVS AS-EQ1 sub equalizer and Audyssey MultEQ. I didn’t do the MultEQ Pro calibration yet cuz I want to wait till all the speakers are set up. Besides, the Pro calibration takes a very long time. As an aside, I first tried to run MultEQ alone, without re-doing the SVS sub equalization and the bass sucked big-time. Had to re-do everything – the SVS AS-EQ1 has a huge contribution but it needs to be set up properly.
I was only able to test the Audyssey DSX “Wide” speaker set-up, using my JBL floorstander. Watched some movie and concert clips. Initial impression is that for movies, panning from side to side is eerily accurate. The movie becomes more realistic. For both movies and music, the soundstage is expanded by a big amount. You feel surrounded by the sound. I can’t wait to see what the “Height” speakers will do, aside from the full 11.4 setup.
I already have a vision on how to set up the rest of the speakers and I think it’s going to be pretty awesome. A whole new “surround sound” experience but baka one to two more weeks before I get everything set up properly. Need to buy new speakers, run wires, fabricate new speaker mounts and then run MultEQ Pro.
The Denon 4810 has a very similar interface to the 3808. In fact, the 3808 seems to have a more responsive menu – parang mas nahihirapan ang 4810 with HDMI handshake. There are a couple of new menu options, particularly for the Audyssey features and they are pretty cool. Otherwise, sound quality is about the same because they have the same DACs. The 4810 also has better video processing but I don’t use that because all processing is handled by my DVDO.
A minor complaint is that the 4810 doesn’t have the standard spacing between speaker plugs. That means I can’t use my “twin” banana plugs.
Looks like the 3808 and probably two pairs of Paradigm ADP-370 surround speakers are going to go … ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 21, 2010 at 11:30 AM
It works! Hay salamat … :) :)
Madaling araw na ako nakatulog … I had to make a big rearrangement of furniture, followed by re-calibration with the SVS AS-EQ1 sub equalizer and Audyssey MultEQ. I didn’t do the MultEQ Pro calibration yet cuz I want to wait till all the speakers are set up. Besides, the Pro calibration takes a very long time. As an aside, I first tried to run MultEQ alone, without re-doing the SVS sub equalization and the bass sucked big-time. Had to re-do everything – the SVS AS-EQ1 has a huge contribution but it needs to be set up properly.
I was only able to test the Audyssey DSX “Wide” speaker set-up, using my JBL floorstander. Watched some movie and concert clips. Initial impression is that for movies, panning from side to side is eerily accurate. The movie becomes more realistic. For both movies and music, the soundstage is expanded by a big amount. You feel surrounded by the sound. I can’t wait to see what the “Height” speakers will do, aside from the full 11.4 setup.
I already have a vision on how to set up the rest of the speakers and I think it’s going to be pretty awesome. A whole new “surround sound” experience but baka one to two more weeks before I get everything set up properly. Need to buy new speakers, run wires, fabricate new speaker mounts and then run MultEQ Pro.
The Denon 4810 has a very similar interface to the 3808. In fact, the 3808 seems to have a more responsive menu – parang mas nahihirapan ang 4810 with HDMI handshake. There are a couple of new menu options, particularly for the Audyssey features and they are pretty cool. Otherwise, sound quality is about the same because they have the same DACs. The 4810 also has better video processing but I don’t use that because all processing is handled by my DVDO.
A minor complaint is that the 4810 doesn’t have the standard spacing between speaker plugs. That means I can’t use my “twin” banana plugs.
Looks like the 3808 and probably two pairs of Paradigm ADP-370 surround speakers are going to go … ;D
CONGRATS Sir Mark, i could just imagine how Master and Commander would sound there baka wala ng labsan sa ganda ng tunog. :) :) :) :) :) :)
one lucky guy kung sino man makakuha ng 3808 nyo, thats still one mean machine :)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2010 at 12:34 PM
one lucky guy kung sino man makakuha ng 3808 nyo, thats still one mean machine :)
Sold na ... ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 21, 2010 at 12:47 PM
Saan yang pilan yan? Magkano ba ang ticket diyan? hehe ;D
brader dyake mukhang magandang pilahan ang palabas na 08-75 na yan ah, magkano nga ba ang ticket? ;D CONGRATS SIR MARK!! :D :D :D
braders hay naku! cancelled ang bola ng lotto para sa numerong yan! ;D
Post by: gaol on Apr 21, 2010 at 12:57 PM
Sold na ... ;D
Ang bilis a, di pa nakakatulog si brader mark niyan! hehe ;D
Post by: gaol on Apr 21, 2010 at 12:59 PM
braders hay naku! cancelled ang bola ng lotto para sa numerong yan! ;D
Sayang naman at na cancel ang karam-bola! ahihihi ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Apr 21, 2010 at 01:07 PM
11.4! lufet !!!
ano kaya tunog ng ungol ni debbie dyan? ;D ;D ;D
Congrats sir mark!
Post by: gaol on Apr 21, 2010 at 01:21 PM
wow!
11.4! lufet !!!
ano kaya tunog ng ungol ni debbie dyan? ;D ;D ;D
Congrats sir mark!
siyempre may height, and width! hehehe ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Apr 21, 2010 at 02:14 PM
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 21, 2010 at 03:02 PM
siyempre may height, and width! hehehe ;D ;D ;D
+1 ;D
Post by: pchin on Apr 21, 2010 at 03:32 PM
Post by: pekspert on Apr 21, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Sir pics naman dyan. :) Sarap manood dyan.
Post by: praktikal on Apr 21, 2010 at 04:26 PM
Congrats sir Mark! Mabuhay ka!
Post by: theblue on Apr 21, 2010 at 05:24 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Apr 21, 2010 at 07:11 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 21, 2010 at 11:06 PM
Sold na ... ;D
ang bilis parang alam ko na kung sino naka bili kaya siguro sarado ang tyatro eh ;D
Post by: John E. on Apr 22, 2010 at 02:58 AM
braders hay naku! cancelled ang bola ng lotto para sa numerong yan! ;D
don jake akala ko 08-75 (Aug.1975) eh birthday ni sir mark ;)
congrats sir mark! when i thought your HT could'nt get any better eh may evolution pa pala! ;D
thanks for sharing it with friends here at pdvd ;D pa PM ng schedule ng now showing ha :D
siguro kaya sarado ang isla eh may malaking pasabog din! ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 22, 2010 at 05:12 AM
don jake akala ko 08-75 (Aug.1975) eh birthday ni sir mark ;)
siguro kaya sarado ang isla eh may malaking pasabog din! ;D
nakows! sarado kasi sinara ng mtrcb! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 22, 2010 at 07:03 AM
congrats sir mark! when i thought your HT could'nt get any better eh may evolution pa pala! ;D
thanks for sharing it with friends here at pdvd ;D pa PM ng schedule ng now showing ha :D
Parang makapal ang mukha nitong si JohnE. Parang binobola ako. ;D ;D ;D
No problem. Sked natin ang now showing. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 22, 2010 at 07:06 AM
Parang makapal ang mukha nitong si JohnE. Parang binobola ako. ;D ;D ;DJohnE. sabay nako sayo ;D ;D
No problem. Sked natin ang now showing. ;D
Post by: nogie on Apr 22, 2010 at 08:50 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 22, 2010 at 10:37 AM
Eto na ang inaabangan ng lahat! Congrats sir Mark! Kelan natin mapapakinggan ang ma-Lupit na set-up nyo? :D :D
Kaw nga ang AVR champion dito. Bumili ka na rin ng 4810! ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 22, 2010 at 10:44 AM
Post by: nogie on Apr 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM
Si brader Tirso pa siguro kayang-kaya nya 4810. ;) ;) Pag nagkataon una ako sa pila ng RC-180 nya. :D :D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 22, 2010 at 10:51 AM
Post by: nogie on Apr 22, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Post by: iiinas on Apr 22, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Malufet din kasi makaimpluwensya yong isang HT gallery na ang title nya ay "Isla". Kelan kaya ako mapapadpad sa isla na yon? ;D ;D
tara! ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM
Can't afford this MONSTER AVR. Yong isang 4810 lima na ang nabili ko nun. ;) ;)
Si brader Tirso pa siguro kayang-kaya nya 4810. ;) ;) Pag nagkataon una ako sa pila ng RC-180 nya. :D :D
oist bakit naman ako nasali sa 4810 sowsssss dream theater din ako pero hanggang dream lang ang 4810 hehehehehehe
sabi ng ni sir mark, ikaw pa din and AVR-KING, walang sinabi si CDR-KING marami nga lang sya branches hahahahahaha
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 22, 2010 at 11:30 AM
Malufet din kasi makaimpluwensya yong isang HT gallery na ang title nya ay "Isla". Kelan kaya ako mapapadpad sa isla na yon? ;D ;D
pare ikaw lang eh... tama si kagawad... TARA NA!
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 22, 2010 at 10:37 PM
whoa! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 23, 2010 at 07:17 AM
Can't afford this MONSTER AVR. Yong isang 4810 lima na ang nabili ko nun. ;) ;)
Di ba sampu AVR mo? Benta mo na lang ang lima, makabili ka na 4810! ;D ;D
Post by: John E. on Apr 23, 2010 at 07:53 AM
Parang makapal ang mukha nitong si JohnE. Parang binobola ako. ;D ;D ;D
No problem. Sked natin ang now showing. ;D
yeeeeehay! ayus sir mark! it worked ang pag sasabi ko ng tutoo (08-75 birthday) !
JohnE. sabay nako sayo ;D ;D
uu baka makatulog ka nanaman at di ka makasama like last time! birthday pa naman ni sir mark nung araw na yun (08-75) ;D! sarap ng sushi at redwine!
ang galing pa ng educational video!
(http://usa.denon.com/AVR4810CI_Large_Back.jpg)
whoa! :D
lupit!
Post by: yygoob on Apr 23, 2010 at 08:32 AM
Post by: vtec3 on Apr 23, 2010 at 02:51 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 23, 2010 at 04:50 PM
sir Mark baka gusto mo bumisita sa thread na ito http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=113150.0 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=113150.0)
Hehe. Nice try, Von. ;D
Actually, I already have 3 huge power amps to power 5 channels. The remaining 6 channels can be easily driven by the Denon 4810 because aside from the LCR channels, others don’t have much content so they don’t really play loud.
Frankly, I am not a great believer in power amps. I believe that as long as you have sufficient wattage, the sound will be good. In fact, I think that for most rooms, the built-in power amps of an AVR are sufficient.
I always believe in value for money and for my system right now, the best improvement would probably be better speakers. How much kaya ang 11 high-end speakers? ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 23, 2010 at 06:12 PM
Hehe. Nice try, Von. ;D
Actually, I already have 3 huge power amps to power 5 channels. The remaining 6 channels can be easily driven by the Denon 4810 because aside from the LCR channels, others don’t have much content so they don’t really play loud.
Frankly, I am not a great believer in power amps. I believe that as long as you have sufficient wattage, the sound will be good. In fact, I think that for most rooms, the built-in power amps of an AVR are sufficient.
I always believe in value for money and for my system right now, the best improvement would probably be better speakers. How much kaya ang 11 high-end speakers? ;D ;D
sir mark... atat na akong madining yang plano mo na yan! pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! isama mo ako sa pagbuo niyan!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 23, 2010 at 09:05 PM
Hehe. Nice try, Von. ;D
Actually, I already have 3 huge power amps to power 5 channels. The remaining 6 channels can be easily driven by the Denon 4810 because aside from the LCR channels, others don’t have much content so they don’t really play loud.
Frankly, I am not a great believer in power amps. I believe that as long as you have sufficient wattage, the sound will be good. In fact, I think that for most rooms, the built-in power amps of an AVR are sufficient.
I always believe in value for money and for my system right now, the best improvement would probably be better speakers. How much kaya ang 11 high-end speakers? ;D ;D
iba reaction ko sir mark eh, talagang dream na lang sa akin to hahahahahaha,
11 na 805 ba yan ng b and w or platinum series ng MA?
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 23, 2010 at 09:21 PM
sabagay lahat naman high end mula sa avr to projector ;D ;D ;D
Ito ang gusto ko makita neighbor :o para na rin akong nakakita ng real life featured theather sa home theather magazine. Ahem.. calling jessica soho ;D ;D paki feature nga po ulit itong sinehan sa bahay ni sir mark ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 23, 2010 at 09:36 PM
11 high end speakers!!
sabagay lahat naman high end mula sa avr to projector ;D ;D ;D
Ito ang gusto ko makita neighbor :o para na rin akong nakakita ng real life featured theather sa home theather magazine. Ahem.. calling jessica soho ;D ;D paki feature nga po ulit itong sinehan sa bahay ni sir mark ;)
pag nagyari to ulit sir mark pahingi naman ako ng kopya at ng mapanood ko din palagi :)
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 23, 2010 at 09:38 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 23, 2010 at 10:14 PM
brader, post na lang natin sa youtube must see videos ;D ;D
pwede rin sa hot or not kase definitely the hottest show in town tong bagong hapgreyd na to eh ;D
Post by: badburn on Apr 24, 2010 at 03:06 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 24, 2010 at 10:17 AM
sir mark... atat na akong madining yang plano mo na yan! pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! isama mo ako sa pagbuo niyan!
It's only a dream right now. Too expensive ... but I tell myself that if I get a big bonus, I will get the 11 speakers.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 24, 2010 at 01:32 PM
Ano kaya ang upcoming dream speakers para sa dream theater? . . . abangan. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 24, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Ano kaya ang upcoming dream speakers para sa dream theater? . . . abangan. ;D
actually brader luther, ang tamang tanong ay...
gano kaya kalaki???
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 24, 2010 at 02:21 PM
JL Audio?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 24, 2010 at 02:31 PM
hehehe mukhang may idea ka na din sir Jake . . . kung tama ang hula ko, ito kaya ay ang . . . . . .
JL Audio?[/size][/spoiler]
bakit ang laki laki ng usapan sa speaker pero ang liit naman ng speaker, hinanap ko pa microscope mabasa lang eh ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 24, 2010 at 02:31 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 24, 2010 at 02:44 PM
;D
;D
;D
ayaw . . . hulaan nyo din :D Pag tama hula ko lalakihan ko :D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 24, 2010 at 02:48 PM
;D parang
;D alam
;D kona
hehe ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 24, 2010 at 10:03 PM
;D
;D
;D
ayaw . . . hulaan nyo din :D Pag tama hula ko lalakihan ko :D ;D
Mali nga. May secret plan kami ni Jay2. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 25, 2010 at 12:16 AM
Mali nga. May secret plan kami ni Jay2. ;D
sir mark di na po yata home theater balak nyo eh mukhang theater na talaga hahahahaha. prang alam ko na kung anong speaker to ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 25, 2010 at 04:51 PM
Mali nga. May secret plan kami ni Jay2. ;D
eheheh see, pareho lang pala 'J' ang start ;D . . . alam ko meron pics yan floating somewhere hmmm halimaw sa laki :o
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 26, 2010 at 07:10 AM
I had a mini-EB with Iiinas, Pchin & Setup kahapon (neighbors ko kasi, e yumpala nasa Paranaque na si Pchin). With Topgun, you feel like you are the pilot. Incredible din ang Die Hard 4 - you feel like you are part of the movie. D pa sila nag-post kasi nalasing for sure.
I don't know if "purists" will like the effect of 9 (or 11) speakers on concerts but the Audyssey designers also had music in mind when they created Audyssey DSX. As I've said before, there is a big improvement in soundstage. Becomes wider and higher. By the way, Audyssey DSX allows you to adjust the perceived width and height of the soundstage.
It's still a work in progress but I made a lot of progress this weekend in my understanding of how the 11 channels will work and in setting up the AVR for the various sources.
Post by: bass_nut on Apr 26, 2010 at 08:42 AM
Post by: SETUP™ on Apr 26, 2010 at 08:58 AM
I still haven't set up the full 11 speakers yet. Still need to get the brackets done. Meanwhile, I experimented by using one pair of my existing surround speakers as the Height speakers and then calibrating all speakers using Audyssey Pro. The Height speakers are not at the ideal location and they are dipole (should be monopole). Nonetheless, experiment lang naman para ma-experience ang 9 speakers (no surround back speakers yet). With 9 speakers (kahit mali pa ang setup), I think the effect is already pretty awesome.
I had a mini-EB with Iiinas, Pchin & Setup kahapon (neighbors ko kasi, e yumpala nasa Paranaque na si Pchin). With Topgun, you feel like you are the pilot. Incredible din ang Die Hard 4 - you feel like you are part of the movie. D pa sila nag-post kasi nalasing for sure.
I don't know if "purists" will like the effect of 9 (or 11) speakers on concerts but the Audyssey designers also had music in mind when they created Audyssey DSX. As I've said before, there is a big improvement in soundstage. Becomes wider and higher. By the way, Audyssey DSX allows you to adjust the perceived width and height of the soundstage.
It's still a work in progress but I made a lot of progress this weekend in my understanding of how the 11 channels will work and in setting up the AVR for the various sources.
I learned a lot from yesterdays eb. thanks to sir mark's invitation. :) for sure there's a lot of improvement whenever the audyssey dsx is turned on. i like the dsx wide soundstage. as mentioned by sir mark, parang ikaw yung pilot inside the jet, it's breathtaking lalo pa halos kaharap ko ung front wide aimed at 60 degrees from the sweet spot. it is an exciting experienced to think only 9 channels are running.. paano pa kung 11 :o Im pretty sure pag naayos na ni sir mark ang proper placing ng speakers surrounds ay mas magiging mas wider pa ang soundstage. With a source like jazz concerts, the sound is comparable to an audiophile grade output because of the clarity of sound it produces., and how it fills the venue. Tama ka medyo nalasing ako konti ;D ;D, but i had a nice time with you, iinas and pchin. Next EB siguradong naayos na ni sir mark yan..and it will be more louder and clearer. ;)
Post by: pchin on Apr 26, 2010 at 03:34 PM
Wow Audyssey DSX has really outdone itself. We have enjoyed widescreen for years & didn't realize now we can also experience "widesound". Parang inside the movie talaga. I like it very much. Congrat Mark, you have now brought AV listening experience to the next level! ;) In conclusion, simply one word: Awesome! :o :o
Nice meeting Iiinas and setup bros again. ;)
Post by: iiinas on Apr 26, 2010 at 03:51 PM
btw, i learned that a certain kind of seats are not acoustically good for hts. hehehe. basta i am glad mine is a day bed. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Apr 26, 2010 at 07:31 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 26, 2010 at 11:19 PM
Thanks again! :) :)
Post by: vtec3 on Apr 27, 2010 at 08:46 AM
@setup, @pchin and @iiinas -- thanks for the comments. As I've told you guys, I always look for value for money. Insofar as audio is concerned, I'm tired of fooling myself that I hear a difference between this cable or that cable (and some other stuff as well .. just like the blind test we conducted on media players which proved that there is no clear difference in pq between the different brands). I'm a big believer in Audyssey and after a long time, I decided that I was pretty certain that Audyssey DSX would provide a clear improvement - really no need for a blind test cuz its so obvious. It seems like I was right .. but I really want to get all the speakers perfect so I can see the full improvement! :) :)
Thanks again! :) :)
congrats Sir Mark!!! next time my mini EB PM mo ako. Neighbor din lang ako eh ;D although hindi ako malalasing kasi i dont drink ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Beefy on Apr 27, 2010 at 11:47 PM
Are you using the PLIIz decoder for your height speakers? Were you able to experience good results with it?
I'm currently using PLIIz, however, the difference in "perceived sound" is subtle to none.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 28, 2010 at 06:34 AM
Hi streetsmart.
Are you using the PLIIz decoder for your height speakers? Were you able to experience good results with it?
I'm currently using PLIIz, however, the difference in "perceived sound" is subtle to none.
I've been using the Audyssey DSX height speakers, not PLIIz. My AVR can also do PLIIz but I still need to get around to experimenting with it.
Audyssey DSX does make a huge difference. For me, it's not subtle.
Post by: Beefy on Apr 28, 2010 at 11:44 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 28, 2010 at 09:26 PM
Thanks congrats on your new project :)
I've done a bit of testing. Yes, you are right. Dolby PLIIz seems to have only a tiny effect.
Post by: ninjababez® on May 01, 2010 at 02:00 AM
btw, i learned that a certain kind of seats are not acoustically good for hts. hehehe. basta i am glad mine is a day bed. ;D ;D ;Dbro expound and share naman ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 04, 2010 at 11:30 AM
I’m still getting used to Audyssey DSX, as well as the Denon 4810, but my initial impression is that all this work (and cost) was worth it. For me, the difference is not subtle, particularly with surround-heavy movies and concerts.
For movies, the improved imaging is quite eerie, particularly for sounds which are outside the screen – a door closing at the left side, cars moving from left to right, a flyby of planes from front to rear.
With regard to the improvement in surround envelopment, I notice this quite a lot, partly because my HT is pretty long, and I feel that the extra 4 speakers in front have filled up the gap between the fronts and the surrounds/surround backs. To quote a cliché, you are inside the movie and in the pilot’s seat (literally when you are watching “Top Gun”). So far, my best experience with the sound envelopment of DSX is with “Ratatouille,” all the way from the lightning strike up to the sewer scene – hard to describe the experience, just a smooth sound in the entire room which sucks you into the movie.
For both concerts and movies, the soundstage suddenly expands way beyond the edges of your room which (for me) is a very pleasing experience. It adds to the fantasy of the experience. You get quite enraptured in the movie or concert. This is actually pretty similar to the DSP effects of AVR manufacturers (Arena, Classical Concert, etc.) but somehow, it seems that those implementations are artificial – since there are no wide or height speakers, the DSP effect tries to simulate those but the result does not seem right.
There is one experience which I am uncertain about and may be a placebo effect but it seems to me that sounds appear to be more distinct, particularly for concerts. With the help of MultEQ Pro, I had always thought that one of the strengths of my system was its ability to separate instruments but with DSX, it seems that this has improved even more. I notice this particularly with acoustic guitar which now seems to be even more realistic. Is this the result of having 4 more speakers in front? I’m not sure.
I still have at least one more thing to do which is to adjust the shelves for my amps. The 4810 has only about 2 inches clearance from the top and even with a fan, it gets too hot. It’s actually pretty simple for a carpenter to adjust the shelves but the work involved in removing the equipment and re-installing them is a lot.
I’m also still struggling with video from my media player. It’s hard to describe but for certain video resolutions, it took me a long time to figure out that I need to disable the “video convert” feature of the AVR and with this setting, I don’t get an OSD over the picture. A bit annoying and so I’m still trying to find a work-around.
Once I get these last bugs fixed, pwede na siguro EB. ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on May 04, 2010 at 11:45 AM
Glad to hear all go well & an EB is at the horizon na. :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 04, 2010 at 11:46 AM
in a very small room like mine, i am already in awe of what the DSX setting provides me, as I have been saying to myslef always, there are some advantages in having a small room as minimal additions, tweaks in settings create significant improvement in the SQ. My biggest challenge though is that the room is only 3M wide thus the front wide speaker is around 3 inches only from the side wall, no other choice for me in this case but still, the viewing pleasure has increased by leaps and bounds.
i could just imagine how huge the impact is in your HT baka wala ng labasan pag nag EB ulit. I share the same experience with concerts and have experienced a new way of enjoyment when i watched Eagles with the DSX.
Congratulations again ;) :)
Post by: eksi on May 04, 2010 at 11:48 AM
pasama po sa eb ;)
Post by: gaol on May 04, 2010 at 12:48 PM
Agree with Tirso, walang labasan na ng room niyan pag EB, dapat ata 8:00am ang first showing, hanggang last full show sa gabi!!!! hehe ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 04, 2010 at 01:10 PM
Post by: SETUP™ on May 04, 2010 at 01:13 PM
Post by: iiinas on May 04, 2010 at 02:10 PM
Sarap manuod nito with sushi and wine ;)
pang special screening yun brader. hehe. :D
Post by: vtec3 on May 04, 2010 at 03:50 PM
Post by: ryn0128 on May 04, 2010 at 04:12 PM
Post by: markcrenz on May 04, 2010 at 04:23 PM
Congrats Mark!
Agree with Tirso, walang labasan na ng room niyan pag EB, dapat ata 8:00am ang first showing, hanggang last full show sa gabi!!!! hehe ;D
Tama! Walang labasan lalo na pag educational video ha? messy
Congrats Sir Mark!!!
Post by: SETUP™ on May 04, 2010 at 04:37 PM
pang special screening yun brader. hehe. :D
Hehe. yun yata ang kaabang abang kagawad, pag pinalabas na ni si Mark ang "magic production" on dsx with front width and height and multi monopole surrounds :o :o Hmm...im thinking? kung sa jet chasing scene sa TOP GUN movie eh ikaw ang pilot., Sa special film screening that day eh ano kaya?? ::) ::) ::) ;)
Post by: streetsmart on May 04, 2010 at 05:18 PM
Hehe. yun yata ang kaabang abang kagawad, pag pinalabas na ni si Mark ang "magic production" on dsx with front width and height and multi monopole surrounds :o :o Hmm...im thinking? kung sa jet chasing scene sa TOP GUN movie eh ikaw ang pilot., Sa special film screening that day eh ano kaya?? ::) ::) ::) ;)
Tama! Walang labasan lalo na pag educational video ha? messy
Congrats Sir Mark!!!
The combination of the new Sony pj (which produces a realistic 3D effect) and the Audyssey DSX 11.4 speaker setup (which immerses you in sound) makes you feel that you are part of the movie. E paano kung educational ang movie? ;D ;D
Post by: gaol on May 04, 2010 at 05:28 PM
The combination of the new Sony pj (which produces a realistic 3D effect) and the Audyssey DSX 11.4 speaker setup (which immerses you in sound) makes you feel that you are part of the movie. E paano kung educational ang movie? ;D ;D
Tama! Walang labasan lalo na pag educational video ha? messy
Congrats Sir Mark!!!
Ibang labasan yan pag ganiyan! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on May 04, 2010 at 11:31 PM
Post by: John E. on May 05, 2010 at 12:34 AM
congrats sir mark! your HT and accommodation is the best i've seen in PDVD! panu pa kaya ngayun na 11.4 na!
Post by: vtec3 on May 05, 2010 at 09:22 AM
The combination of the new Sony pj (which produces a realistic 3D effect) and the Audyssey DSX 11.4 speaker setup (which immerses you in sound) makes you feel that you are part of the movie. E paano kung educational ang movie? ;D ;D
Sir Mark sigurado sa educational movie maganda yung 3D effect. Yung sound ang hindi ko sure ;D Kailangan talaga ma try to find out ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 05, 2010 at 09:28 AM
Sir Mark sigurado sa educational movie maganda yung 3D effect. Yung sound ang hindi ko sure ;D Kailangan talaga ma try to find out ;D
Magaling talaga itong si Von. Yun din ang prinsipyo ko. We must try it out to find out. ;D
bro mark wala pa akong na receive na invites ng grand opening ;D ;D
Wala pa. Ayusin ko muna ang shelves para wala na talagang kulang. Baka this weekend ok na. :)
pinaka malupit na EB to! :)
congrats sir mark! your HT and accommodation is the best i've seen in PDVD! panu pa kaya ngayun na 11.4 na!
Hi John! Salamat. Invite kita as long as gumawa ka ng komiks ng nangyari after. ;D ;D
Post by: Munskie on May 05, 2010 at 09:38 AM
pics!!! pics!!! pics!!!! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 05, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Congrats sir Mark.....master ka talaga sa innovation....... :)
pics!!! pics!!! pics!!!! ;D
Thanks, Marvin ... and I make sure that I do innovations that have true value - no snake oil. :)
Si Iiinas na lang kumuha ng pics. Maganda camera nya. ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on May 05, 2010 at 01:42 PM
sarap cguro ma-experience yang 11.4 setup!
Post by: iiinas on May 05, 2010 at 04:47 PM
Thanks, Marvin ... and I make sure that I do innovations that have true value - no snake oil. :)
Si Iiinas na lang kumuha ng pics. Maganda camera nya. ;D
surely!!! ;)
Post by: markcrenz on May 05, 2010 at 04:58 PM
surely!!! ;)with comics ha? ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 05, 2010 at 06:10 PM
Post by: iiinas on May 05, 2010 at 06:28 PM
with comics ha? ;D
haha, ako sa pics, si brader johne sa comics! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 05, 2010 at 09:43 PM
haha, ako sa pics, si brader johne sa comics! ;D
Agree. Each member should concentrate on his own specialty. ;D ;D
Pwede ba gawin ni JohnE. superhero si Onkyo606? ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 05, 2010 at 10:30 PM
Agree. Each member should concentrate on his own specialty. ;D ;D
Pwede ba gawin ni JohnE. superhero si Onkyo606? ;D
patay tayo jan ;D pwede bang kumanta na lang po ako maiba naman ;D pwedeng pwede ako sa kanta ni renz verano hahahahaha
Post by: markcrenz on May 07, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Post by: Superman on May 07, 2010 at 10:39 AM
Post by: yygoob on May 07, 2010 at 11:26 PM
Post by: Marl☆1 on May 08, 2010 at 09:24 AM
Once I get these last bugs fixed, pwede na siguro EB. ;D ;D
congrats mark, EB na kaagad! this way you can get some 'unsolicited' feedback from the gang; and then you can finetune further! ;)
Post by: rap2x on May 08, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on May 09, 2010 at 03:42 AM
tapos na ba ang garage sale? ::) ::)
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2010 at 07:01 AM
tapos na ba ang garage sale? ::) ::)
Denon 3808CI with Audyssey Pro license - SOLD! Kahapon lang.
Kapalit ng isang trak ng bigas. ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 09, 2010 at 07:05 AM
Denon 3808CI with Audyssey Pro license - SOLD! Kahapon lang.
Kapalit ng isang trak ng bigas. ;D ;D
hahaha. ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on May 09, 2010 at 07:14 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2010 at 07:15 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2010 at 07:17 AM
Congrats Sir Mark for the new upgrade! (http://emoticons4u.com/happy/1074.gif) Ibalik ang Pinoydvd marathon....di takbuhan to ha.... ;) Excited to experience 11.4! (http://emoticons4u.com/cool/804.gif)
Lapit na ... :)
Naayos ko na shelves ko. Ayos na ventilation and then spent half day fixing cables, cleaning, etc.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2010 at 09:00 AM
Baka may gusto ng Paradigm ADP-370 dipole speakers. :) :)
uyyyy! puwede na ba matesting na yan sir mark?
Post by: iiinas on May 09, 2010 at 09:25 AM
uyyyy! puwede na ba matesting na yan sir mark?
kunin mo na yung isang pares, mamaya maunahan ka nanaman... :D
Post by: SETUP™ on May 09, 2010 at 10:29 AM
uyyyy! puwede na ba matesting na yan sir mark?
Vanat na bro. dyek ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 09, 2010 at 12:50 PM
uyyyy! puwede na ba matesting na yan sir mark?
wag ka mag wee wee baka pag balik mo gone na hahahahahahaha
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2010 at 12:53 PM
kunin mo na yung isang pares, mamaya maunahan ka nanaman... :D
Vanat na bro. dyek ;D
nakows eh dapat dadalin nga yan dito ni sir mark, kaso tinesting ata muna diyan sa initial na 11.4 setup... malamang puwede ko na ulit testingin dito sa isla...
sir mark kailan na ulit?
Post by: nerveblocker on May 09, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Lapit na ... :)
Naayos ko na shelves ko. Ayos na ventilation and then spent half day fixing cables, cleaning, etc.
Woohoo! Post-election EB! (http://emoticons4u.com/happy/057.gif)
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2010 at 02:10 PM
uyyyy! puwede na ba matesting na yan sir mark?
Yup. Pwedeng pwede. Perfect na sya. :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2010 at 05:02 PM
Yup. Pwedeng pwede. Perfect na sya. :)
ahem!
Post by: vtec3 on May 09, 2010 at 05:54 PM
Post by: iiinas on May 09, 2010 at 08:23 PM
latest tomorrow morning! ;D
Post by: pchin on May 09, 2010 at 08:53 PM
may sneak peek pictures ako, with permission from the theater owner.... ABANGAN!
latest tomorrow morning! ;D
Go iiinas go! :D
Post by: SETUP™ on May 09, 2010 at 08:54 PM
may sneak peek pictures ako, with permission from the theater owner.... ABANGAN!
latest tomorrow morning! ;D
Ayan may fektyurs na. galing galing kagawad abangan natin ;D ;D Sir Mark schedule na lang ;)
Post by: docelmo on May 09, 2010 at 09:16 PM
having seen, heard and felt your ht last time i was there....i am sure this new setup
will be an even better experience!!!
Post by: iiinas on May 10, 2010 at 05:02 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4594404875_96c2c0fdec.jpg)
here is the new view of the ht, with the new height channels and the wide channels (jbl speakers) installed (formerly where the comfy seats were situated).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4595024988_17e649220c.jpg)
right side of the ht, notice the right surround, now with direct firing psb bookshelves instead of the former paradigm dipoles.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4595023336_6c83440131.jpg)
left side of the ht. same speaker configuration.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1119/4595019980_c9c6ec661d.jpg)
a closer look at the psb image bookshelves, this one also serves as the right back surround (the one near the toilet).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4594402083_0fee5858bd.jpg)
last but definitely not the least, the piece that started the 11.4 set-up. the denon 4810ci, audyssey dsx enabled.
what can i say, it sounds as good as it looks. coupled with the new pj. whole new audio-visual experience... ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 10, 2010 at 05:30 PM
with permission from sir mark. here are some pics of the new set-up. did not get to do some serious shooting, me and sir mark went quickly to violate last night's alcohol ban... ::)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4594404875_96c2c0fdec.jpg)
here is the new view of the ht, with the new height channels and the wide channels (jbl speakers) installed (formerly where the comfy seats were situated).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4595024988_17e649220c.jpg)
right side of the ht, notice the right surround, now with direct firing psb bookshelves instead of the former paradigm dipoles.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4595023336_6c83440131.jpg)
left side of the ht. same speaker configuration.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1119/4595019980_c9c6ec661d.jpg)
a closer look at the psb image bookshelves, this one also serves as the right back surround (the one near the toilet).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4594402083_0fee5858bd.jpg)
last but definitely not the least, the piece that started the 11.4 set-up. the denon 4810ci, audyssey dsx enabled.
what can i say, it sounds as good as it looks. coupled with the new pj. whole new audio-visual experience... ;D
MEAN AND PRETTY is all I can say wowwwwwwwwww
sir mark how did you fix the exhaust fan???
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 10, 2010 at 05:34 PM
MEAN AND PRETTY is all I can say wowwwwwwwwww
sir mark how did you fix the exhaust fan???
and san po nabili :)
Post by: juanch on May 10, 2010 at 05:48 PM
Whenever I open this thread, sir Mark's HT just gets better and better.
Looking to experiencing this new 11.4 set up :o :o :o
Post by: streetsmart on May 10, 2010 at 06:07 PM
sir mark how did you fix the exhaust fan???
Dati, ang clearance from the new AVR to the upper shelf was 1". Nagtanggal na lang ako ng isang shelf. Now, the clearance is 5" and I added a notebook exhaust fan from CD-R King.
Post by: eksi on May 10, 2010 at 06:08 PM
CONGRATS PO :)
Post by: streetsmart on May 10, 2010 at 06:45 PM
Post by: gaol on May 10, 2010 at 07:20 PM
with permission from sir mark. here are some pics of the new set-up. did not get to do some serious shooting, me and sir mark went quickly to violate last night's alcohol ban... ::)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4594404875_96c2c0fdec.jpg)
here is the new view of the ht, with the new height channels and the wide channels (jbl speakers) installed (formerly where the comfy seats were situated).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4595024988_17e649220c.jpg)
right side of the ht, notice the right surround, now with direct firing psb bookshelves instead of the former paradigm dipoles.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4595023336_6c83440131.jpg)
left side of the ht. same speaker configuration.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1119/4595019980_c9c6ec661d.jpg)
a closer look at the psb image bookshelves, this one also serves as the right back surround (the one near the toilet).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4594402083_0fee5858bd.jpg)
last but definitely not the least, the piece that started the 11.4 set-up. the denon 4810ci, audyssey dsx enabled.
what can i say, it sounds as good as it looks. coupled with the new pj. whole new audio-visual experience... ;D
Wow! Eto ang boto ko, kahit mag-flying voter pako! Congrats! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on May 10, 2010 at 07:33 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 10, 2010 at 08:48 PM
Dati, ang clearance from the new AVR to the upper shelf was 1". Nagtanggal na lang ako ng isang shelf. Now, the clearance is 5" and I added a notebook exhaust fan from CD-R King.
nag tanong ako sa cd r king sa bulacan tamad lang siguro maghanap yung sales lady when asked kung may exhaust fan na pwede connect to 220V adaptor. sa SM North or Trinoma na lang ako hanap, any of the models would do sir mark? tyvm
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 10, 2010 at 09:02 PM
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4594404875_96c2c0fdec.jpg)
now i need to change lay out of my speakers again, mine is not toed in, hardship of having a small room
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/onkyo606/Panels003.jpg)
would toing in sir mark make the SQ better? the front wide is just 5 inches away from the wall
Post by: nogie on May 10, 2010 at 09:05 PM
nag tanong ako sa cd r king sa bulacan tamad lang siguro maghanap yung sales lady when asked kung may exhaust fan na pwede connect to 220V adaptor. sa SM North or Trinoma na lang ako hanap, any of the models would do sir mark? tyvm
OT: me PM ako sa yo re: avr fan. ;)
Post by: John E. on May 11, 2010 at 03:46 AM
Post by: stickfighter on May 11, 2010 at 04:02 AM
with permission from sir mark. here are some pics of the new set-up. did not get to do some serious shooting, me and sir mark went quickly to violate last night's alcohol ban... ::)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4594404875_96c2c0fdec.jpg)
here is the new view of the ht, with the new height channels and the wide channels (jbl speakers) installed (formerly where the comfy seats were situated).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4009/4595024988_17e649220c.jpg)
right side of the ht, notice the right surround, now with direct firing psb bookshelves instead of the former paradigm dipoles.
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4595023336_6c83440131.jpg)
left side of the ht. same speaker configuration.
(http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1119/4595019980_c9c6ec661d.jpg)
a closer look at the psb image bookshelves, this one also serves as the right back surround (the one near the toilet).
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4033/4594402083_0fee5858bd.jpg)
last but definitely not the least, the piece that started the 11.4 set-up. the denon 4810ci, audyssey dsx enabled.
what can i say, it sounds as good as it looks. coupled with the new pj. whole new audio-visual experience... ;D
CONGRATS SIR MARK!!! ;D So when do we experience this awesome set-up? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 11, 2010 at 07:07 AM
now i need to change lay out of my speakers again, mine is not toed in, hardship of having a small room
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af309/onkyo606/Panels003.jpg)
would toing in sir mark make the SQ better? the front wide is just 5 inches away from the wall
I just followed the recommendation of Audyssey -- all speakers toed in except for the surround speakers (iyong nasa sides).
The logic is that sq deteriorates as you are more off-axis to the speakers.
Also, if you run Audyssey MultEQ and the speakers are substantially off-axis, MultEQ may try to excessively raise the level of the tweeters, which will sound harsh.
Post by: mike c on May 11, 2010 at 08:07 AM
diyan pala ang height speaker ... buti na lang inantay ko yung 11 channel setup na ito, mali ang intindi ko sa position ng height surround e.
looks very nice!
Post by: vtec3 on May 11, 2010 at 08:44 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 11, 2010 at 09:05 AM
diyan pala ang height speaker ... buti na lang inantay ko yung 11 channel setup na ito, mali ang intindi ko sa position ng height surround e.
looks very nice!
Ideally, the heights are located 45 degrees from the centerline and then 45 degrees up.
Post by: mike c on May 11, 2010 at 09:14 AM
Ideally, the heights are located 45 degrees from the centerline and then 45 degrees up.
the mains can also be 45 degrees right? so it's possible in some layouts that both are in the same position, iba lang height?
so from a typical height of ears (39-42"), how high are the height surrounds (measured to tweeter height correct?)?
also, meron po ba kayong formula for me to use to figure out the degrees using triangular geometric formulas?
before i printed out the degrees and then used a string
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 11, 2010 at 10:54 AM
I just followed the recommendation of Audyssey -- all speakers toed in except for the surround speakers (iyong nasa sides).
The logic is that sq deteriorates as you are more off-axis to the speakers.
Also, if you run Audyssey MultEQ and the speakers are substantially off-axis, MultEQ may try to excessively raise the level of the tweeters, which will sound harsh.
TYVM sir mark, just toed in mine and i like the sound better :)
Post by: streetsmart on May 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM
the mains can also be 45 degrees right? so it's possible in some layouts that both are in the same position, iba lang height?
so from a typical height of ears (39-42"), how high are the height surrounds (measured to tweeter height correct?)?
also, meron po ba kayong formula for me to use to figure out the degrees using triangular geometric formulas?
before i printed out the degrees and then used a string
The mains are at around 30 degrees. Heights at 45 degrees and Wides at 60 degrees.
Madali lang kasi pag 30 degrees, one side of triangle is twice the other side while pag 60 degrees, reverse sya. Kapag 45 degrees, each side of triangle is same length.
For mains:
Main listening position (MLP) at center line. Take distance to side wall. Measure double that distance along the side wall to the front. At that position, place a string towards the MLP. Place masking tape along that line. You can locate your mains anywhere along that line.
For heights:
MLP at center line. Take distance to side wall. Measure same distance along side wall towards the front. At that position, measure distance to MLP. Height of tweeters is same distance + height of ears.
For wides:
MLP at center line. Take distance to side wall. Measure half the distance along side wall towards the front. At that position, place a string towards the MLP. Place masking tape along that line. You can locate your wides anywhere along that line.
Post by: mike c on May 11, 2010 at 11:31 AM
The mains are at around 30 degrees. Heights at 45 degrees and Wides at 60 degrees.
Madali lang kasi pag 30 degrees, one side of triangle is twice the other side while pag 60 degrees, reverse sya. Kapag 45 degrees, each side of triangle is same length.
For mains:
Main listening position (MLP) at center line. Take distance to side wall. Measure double that distance along the side wall to the front. At that position, place a string towards the MLP. Place masking tape along that line. You can locate your mains anywhere along that line.
For heights:
MLP at center line. Take distance to side wall. Measure same distance along side wall towards the front. At that position, measure distance to MLP. Height of tweeters is same distance + height of ears.
For wides:
MLP at center line. Take distance to side wall. Measure half the distance along side wall towards the front. At that position, place a string towards the MLP. Place masking tape along that line. You can locate your wides anywhere along that line.
thanks sir mark! i-digest ko itong mga info :)
Post by: Marl☆1 on May 11, 2010 at 11:52 PM
Baka may gusto ng Paradigm ADP-370 dipole speakers. :) :)
ahem!
nakow, pa-pila nga sa likod ni JJ. :D
pag pass si don jake, patikim din mark - option to upgrade my ADP-170. ;)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 02, 2010 at 10:30 PM
Makakarading din ako sa HT room na ito someday.
Post by: Stagea on Jun 04, 2010 at 12:54 PM
Yan ang totoong "surround."
Post by: dayday on Jun 10, 2010 at 06:32 PM
Post by: pchin on Jun 10, 2010 at 09:48 PM
The best way to describe is that the movie is no longer enveloping you...instead you're virtually inside the movie!! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 11, 2010 at 07:04 AM
At 11.4 this is a new level of experience. :o
The best way to describe is that the movie is no longer enveloping you...instead you're virtually inside the movie!! :D
Hehe. Thanks for coming over the other night, Paul! :) :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 11, 2010 at 07:07 AM
11.4!!!!! Must sound incredible Mark!!
Hi Dave! Bisita ka minsan. Text mo lang ako. Its a different experience. :)
Post by: natosan on Jul 11, 2010 at 09:11 PM
i can only imagine your electricity bill with the 4 subs. your air conditioner was cool with the glossy red color.
na-inspire ako mag-invest ng one good piece of equipment lang every year and build my dream theater brick by brick. wish lang i had the space. medyo masikip dito sa condo ko.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 12, 2010 at 07:46 AM
sir streetsmart, thank you very much for the touch kanina sa dream theater mo. never thought makapasok ako sa home theater nakikita ko dito sa pdvd. grabe ganda nun demo ng U-571 and Top Gun. Avatar was surreal!
i can only imagine your electricity bill with the 4 subs. your air conditioner was cool with the glossy red color.
na-inspire ako mag-invest ng one good piece of equipment lang every year and build my dream theater brick by brick. wish lang i had the space. medyo masikip dito sa condo ko.
You're welcome ... and thanks for the lens. :)
Bumili ka ng bagong bahay para may space for HT! ;D
Post by: natosan on Jul 12, 2010 at 12:12 PM
Post by: Digities on Jul 12, 2010 at 12:37 PM
Post by: yygoob on Jul 12, 2010 at 01:11 PM
di ko na pinapangarap magkaroon ng parehong setup (dahillotto lang siguro pagaasa ko)
tama na sakin ang mapahintulutang makita at marinig ang setup na ito!!! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 12, 2010 at 02:18 PM
how do you do an 11.4 setup and what receiver does that ? :)
AFAIK, right now, only the Denon 4810 can handle 11.1 channels. The 4 subs pass through an SVS AS-EQ1 subwoofer equalizer.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 12, 2010 at 08:02 PM
AFAIK, right now, only the Denon 4810 can handle 11.1 channels. The 4 subs pass through an SVS AS-EQ1 subwoofer equalizer.
even the avsforum confirmed this. since sir mark mentioned to me there are good reads in avsforum, i have been doing so. so far only the DENON 4810 can do front wide and front height set up at the same time. mine can only do either front wide or front height, I have to choose which one i prefer.
Post by: morning on Jul 29, 2010 at 03:59 PM
Congrats!!!
Now time to relax...
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 29, 2010 at 07:54 PM
If those pictures are taken only by using just a DVD player and not a Blu-ray player...then you really have indeed a nice and well connected set-up...
Congrats!!!
Now time to relax...
Siguro d ka pa umabot sa year 2008 na posts sa thread na ito ... Daming binago
Post by: Brian_mico on Jul 30, 2010 at 09:19 PM
Hayyyy I know 2008 pa nagstart ang thread na 'to.... sana ma experienced ko rin kung ano meron sa 11.4 set-up ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2010 at 07:06 AM
Post by: ricky on Jul 31, 2010 at 08:05 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2010 at 08:48 AM
Sir mark kamusta? tagal ko nawala and now 11.4 na set-up mo :o :o :o Tamang tama sa napakalaking MINI MOVIE HOUSE mo ;) Congratulations again.
Yup. Daan ka mamaya sa bahay. May EB. :)
Post by: zekiber2 on Jul 31, 2010 at 10:28 AM
Post by: Digities on Jul 31, 2010 at 10:56 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 31, 2010 at 05:37 PM
sorely missed this... hope things went well and everyone enjoyed! cheers!
Post by: ricky on Jul 31, 2010 at 05:54 PM
Yup. Daan ka mamaya sa bahay. May EB. :)
Thank you sa invite sir pero takot ako makulam ;D ;D ;D Nun last time galing kami sa inyo, ang tagal nabura sa isip ko yung linaw ng pj mo ;) ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 31, 2010 at 07:18 PM
Post by: juanch on Jul 31, 2010 at 07:21 PM
I know everyone enjoyed :D
I'm sure dami nakulam ;D
Post by: eksi on Jul 31, 2010 at 07:33 PM
Disappointed that I wasn't able to make it to the EB ???
I know everyone enjoyed :D
I'm sure dami nakulam ;D
same :)
antay antay na lang po ng mga pics :)
Post by: firestorm on Jul 31, 2010 at 07:36 PM
And it was great to finally some members here
Gaol, Gunblade, Macdon, Mikec, Moks, Nelson, Nogie, Pchin, Raptor, Stickfighter, Vtec
hopefully wala akong nakalimutan.
Thanks again.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2010 at 09:01 PM
Thank you po kay Sir Mark and his wife for accomodating us. Ang ganda talaga ng set-up nyo mapa movies or concerts.
And it was great to finally some members here
Gaol, Gunblade, Macdon, Mikec, Moks, Nelson, Nogie, Pchin, Raptor, Stickfighter, Vtec
hopefully wala akong nakalimutan.
Thanks again.
Very accurate. Unfortunately, during the merienda, @firestorm did not correctly identify the other Pinoydvd members and so he could not claim the free PSB-10 NSD that Mike C generously offered. ;D ;D
Si @Nelson de Leon naman ... may nagsabi that in previous EB's, the reference material was "Debbie" and immediately, may sinabi siya na kahiya-hiya ... Debbie Dallas or something like that. Parang marami siyang alam na hindi kagalang-galang. Ewan lang kung ano yun. ;D ;D
As usual, masaya and as usual, kawawa ang mga absent kasi sila ang pinagtsismisan. ;D ;D
I guess these EB's are what make Pinoydvd different. Really friendly and everyone is helpful. :)
Thanks, guys!
Calling Mike C and Gaol to post pics please!
Post by: macdon on Jul 31, 2010 at 09:16 PM
Nice meeting the new guys and a pleasure seeing the old guys - till the next EB.
Dont worry, what happens in the EB stays in the EB hahahahahaha :D :D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Jul 31, 2010 at 10:05 PM
Post by: b u l l e t on Jul 31, 2010 at 10:29 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 31, 2010 at 11:08 PM
Post by: SETUP™ on Jul 31, 2010 at 11:39 PM
sayans! ;)
+1
Oist!! picts naman dyan mga brader. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 01, 2010 at 06:51 AM
Salamat kay Raptor who demoed his TViX. Parang tangke pala yun. First time ko nakaranas ng Dolby TruHD from a media player. Pero parang mas na-appreciate ng mga tao ang mga demo ng SI Swimsuit at Victoria's Secret. ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 01, 2010 at 07:01 AM
Salamat kay Jazzy Jake who, as usual, supplied the cool Pepsi products!! :) :)
Salamat kay Raptor who demoed his TViX. Parang tangke pala yun. First time ko nakaranas ng Dolby TruHD from a media player. Pero parang mas na-appreciate ng mga tao ang mga demo ng SI Swimsuit at Victoria's Secret. ;D ;D
salamat din sir mark for the invitation... so sorry really i could not make it...pero...
basta na lang akong mag-a-appear diyan para ma-experience ko din yang 11.4 set-up mo!
cheers!
Post by: gunblade977 on Aug 01, 2010 at 09:19 AM
Nice meeting all you guys again.
Salamat kay Jazzy Jake who, as usual, supplied the cool Pepsi products!! :) :)
Salamat kay Raptor who demoed his TViX. Parang tangke pala yun. First time ko nakaranas ng Dolby TruHD from a media player. Pero parang mas na-appreciate ng mga tao ang mga demo ng SI Swimsuit at Victoria's Secret. ;D ;D
Thanks Jake for the drinks. Sarap magbago!
Thanks Raptor for the Tvix demo, ganda nung bouncing demo ng Samsung, nakaka hypnotize ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Aug 01, 2010 at 11:10 AM
ni Mark!
hirap tlga pag alipin at may work ng saturdays..... :'(
pictures please !!!
Post by: iiinas on Aug 01, 2010 at 04:23 PM
+1
Oist!! picts naman dyan mga brader. ;)
naku sir, absent din ako. antay natin sila mag post ng pix! POST NA!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 01, 2010 at 04:38 PM
Thanks Jake for the drinks. Sarap magbago!
Thanks Raptor for the Tvix demo, ganda nung bouncing demo ng Samsung, nakaka hypnotize ;D ;D ;D
uy you're welcome brader andrew!
naku gusto ko ding ma-test yang Tvix na yan... hay kailan kaya... hmmmm...
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 01, 2010 at 04:52 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 01, 2010 at 05:06 PM
brader Jake salamat din dun sa mga drinks, akala ko may raffle ulit kasi ang dami :) sayang at hindi kayo naka punta. Hirap pala mag absent sa EB dami topic na pinagusapan kasama na yung nangyari sa dating EB ;D
meron naman ni-raffle na sub di ba? Hindi ko lang nakuha. ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Aug 01, 2010 at 05:40 PM
Post by: blackie on Aug 02, 2010 at 07:37 AM
Looks like everyone had fun :D Will look forward to the next one :D Was looking forward to see and feel new rear and surround configuration :-\
Cheers!
Post by: mike c on Aug 02, 2010 at 08:08 AM
thanks to sir mark for inviting me again to experience 11.4 :)
nice to meet everybody again.
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chairman of the meeting of the presents
thou shall not be absent, otherwise you will be the topic of the meeting. sorry na lang sa mga napatid or nakagat ang dila diyan :D
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checking the attendance
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tvix demo
Post by: stickfighter on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:58 AM
Thank you also brader Jake sa drinks...as usual it satisfied everyone's thirst quench! ;D
Post by: gaol on Aug 02, 2010 at 12:33 PM
I only took a few quick pics with a P&S to boot:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4082/4852116136_95f33705a6_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4098/4851499119_466a005b4d_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4099/4852117416_abbe16292c_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4081/4852118224_8c9a18c7b3_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4851501363_8d4313629a_b.jpg)
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4102/4852119416_6ae21570ed_b.jpg)
The last two pics are of brother Raptor demoing the HD-Audio capabilities of his TVIX NMT (while most other NMTs are still promising HD-Audio in a future firmware update).
Kaya lang, instead of the audio, I think most focused on the image quality of what was shown, with Mark pointing out where edge enhancement makes for better edges (and CURVES)! Ang gagaganda, whew!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 02, 2010 at 02:51 PM
Post by: nogie on Aug 02, 2010 at 03:38 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 02, 2010 at 03:48 PM
brader Jake salamat din dun sa mga drinks, akala ko may raffle ulit kasi ang dami :) sayang at hindi kayo naka punta. Hirap pala mag absent sa EB dami topic na pinagusapan kasama na yung nangyari sa dating EB ;D
Thank you also brader Jake sa drinks...as usual it satisfied everyone's thirst quench! ;D
Thank you thank you again Mark for inviting us over! ;D And to brader jake na rin sa panulak!
you are much welcome… parang sa dami ata ng pinadala kong drinks eh, aabot pa sa susunod na EB!
Ang saya namin! Don't worry sa mga hindi nakarating at pinag-usapan namin kayo. ;D ;D Thank you for having us Sir Mark, another successful EB. ;D ;D
actually nagkita-kita kami eh… para pagusapan kayong mga nagsipunta! ahahaha! cheers brader nogie!
Post by: Moks007 on Aug 02, 2010 at 10:56 PM
Really enjoyed the drinking ;D and kuentohan towards the end. Sana the others stayed longer.
Anyway, Its a good thing hindi pa ako na ban dito sa pinoydvd hahaha..If you know what I mean hahaha ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 02, 2010 at 11:02 PM
di bale may susunod pa naman ;)
Post by: vtec3 on Aug 03, 2010 at 08:30 AM
too bad i missed this hayyyyyy
di bale may susunod pa naman ;)
partner oo nga sayang at wala ka! kumusta ka na? baka mapabilis ang return of the comeback kung nandun ka at nakita at nadinig mo ang 11.4 setup ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:28 AM
partner oo nga sayang at wala ka! kumusta ka na? baka mapabilis ang return of the comeback kung nandun ka at nakita at nadinig mo ang 11.4 setup ;D
Kawawa talaga ang mga d nag-attend. Yun ang mga pinagtsitsismisan. ;D ;D
Panay kagat ng labi siguro si bro Tirso at Iiinas. ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:40 AM
Kawawa talaga ang mga d nag-attend. Yun ang mga pinagtsitsismisan. ;D ;D
Panay kagat ng labi siguro si bro Tirso at Iiinas. ;D ;D
kaya po pala nag kaagihap ako bigla sir mark ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:42 AM
partner oo nga sayang at wala ka! kumusta ka na? baka mapabilis ang return of the comeback kung nandun ka at nakita at nadinig mo ang 11.4 setup ;D
nakupo dream theater lang talaga sa akin yan :)
im sure ang ganda ng dating ng dsx ni sir mark, that 4810 has the distinction of being the only receiver that can run front height and wide simultaneously. ;)
Post by: pchin on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:47 AM
I think another member suffers SARS attack after attending the EB. ;D
Post by: gaol on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:53 AM
Yes thanks to Mark's generosity & hospitality! Another awesome EB with great food.
I think another member suffers SARS attack after attending the EB. ;D
Sino kaya? haha ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:57 AM
Sino kaya? haha ;D
brader arn mukhang nag order ka na din ng 4810 ah ;D ;D ;D
Post by: gaol on Aug 03, 2010 at 12:15 PM
brader arn mukhang nag order ka na din ng 4810 ah ;D ;D ;D
Ah hindi naman brader tirso, lower model lang naman po, na sars nako after visiting mark's and jay's denon-powered HT rooms early july! ahihihi ;D
Sana dumating ng walang sabit ....
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 03, 2010 at 03:25 PM
Kawawa talaga ang mga d nag-attend. Yun ang mga pinagtsitsismisan. ;D ;D
Panay kagat ng labi siguro si bro Tirso at Iiinas. ;D ;D
;D
Oo nga sir eh. Thanks din for the wonderful hospitality. I really enjoyed the stay. Sarap nun green leaf (correct ba sir?) wine.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:26 PM
Ah hindi naman brader tirso, lower model lang naman po, na sars nako after visiting mark's and jay's denon-powered HT rooms early july! ahihihi ;D
Sana dumating ng walang sabit ....
aba mukahng 4310 ito o 3311? parehong malupit din yun woohooo.
Post by: gunblade977 on Aug 03, 2010 at 10:29 PM
Ah hindi naman brader tirso, lower model lang naman po, na sars nako after visiting mark's and jay's denon-powered HT rooms early july! ahihihi ;D
Sana dumating ng walang sabit ....
kelan ba ang dating brader?
sana nga walang sabit anoh ....
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 04, 2010 at 06:39 AM
aba mukahng 4310 ito o 3311? parehong malupit din yun woohooo.
Bilib ako kay Tirso manghula! Value for money, these are the best 2 Denons out there. "CI" pa ang kinuha ni Arn, kaya pwede calibrate ng Audyssey MultEQ Pro.
Post by: gaol on Aug 04, 2010 at 08:26 AM
aba mukahng 4310 ito o 3311? parehong malupit din yun woohooo.
Bilib ako kay Tirso manghula! Value for money, these are the best 2 Denons out there. "CI" pa ang kinuha ni Arn, kaya pwede calibrate ng Audyssey MultEQ Pro.
Manghuhula nga talaga ang brader Tirso! These are the cheapest, value for money Denons with MultEQ XT and with CI have the option for MultEQ Pro. I opted for the one with the (presumably) slightly better amp section, since wala akong budget for external power amps like mark and jay, hehe
kelan ba ang dating brader?
sana nga walang sabit anoh ....
I expect late August, brader, although sana as early as 3rd week. Naka-kaba yung balita ni AVR king nogie kasi ....
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 04, 2010 at 06:52 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 04, 2010 at 07:31 PM
ayos kay brader arn naman susunod na EB, my dream theater jr. ;) ;)
ay talaga naman... sana maimbitahan din diyan sa magandang kaabang abang na HT ni brader arn!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 04, 2010 at 07:44 PM
ay talaga naman... sana maimbitahan din diyan sa magandang kaabang abang na HT ni brader arn!
ihanda mo na daw ang pangpalamig agosto na eh malapit na ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 04, 2010 at 07:46 PM
ihanda mo na daw ang pangpalamig agosto na eh malapit na ;D ;D ;D
naku! magpapa-espesyal run pa ako ng maiinom para lang kay brader arn!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 04, 2010 at 07:51 PM
naku! magpapa-espesyal run pa ako ng maiinom para lang kay brader arn!
aba mukahang mag kakaron ng........
PEPSI GAOLA - pepsi cola speacilly made for GAOL
or GARNTORADE - gatorade specially made for ARN
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sir mark patambay muna ha ;) :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 04, 2010 at 08:28 PM
Post by: gaol on Aug 04, 2010 at 10:02 PM
ayos kay brader arn naman susunod na EB, my dream theater jr. ;) ;)
ihanda mo na daw ang pangpalamig agosto na eh malapit na ;D ;D ;D
Ay hindi pa, mauuna pa si Sir Paul sakin! Even when it arrives malamang naka-karton muna while everything is being finished. hehe ;D
ay talaga naman... sana maimbitahan din diyan sa magandang kaabang abang na HT ni brader arn!
naku! magpapa-espesyal run pa ako ng maiinom para lang kay brader arn!
Sure yan brader, pa-LBC ko pa invitation! No need for special run, okay na ang Pepsi Max! ;D
aba mukahang mag kakaron ng........
PEPSI GAOLA - pepsi cola speacilly made for GAOL
or GARNTORADE - gatorade specially made for ARN
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
sir mark patambay muna ha ;) :)
Siguradong napakasarsap niyan! hahaha
Hehe ... Curious talaga ako sa bagong HT ni @Gaol. Parang malapit na yata matapos. Promise na tulungan ko talaga sya sa calibration ng audio & video. :) :) :)
Medyo matagal tagal pa Sir Mark. Tenkyu tenkyu sa offer, siguradong milagro ang magagawa ng iyong magic touch! hehe
BTW, sorry pala at mukhang na-hijack yung thread mo, dapat eto dun sa kabilang thread ahihihi :D
Post by: Grendaizer on Aug 09, 2010 at 02:55 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 30, 2010 at 06:52 PM
For a couple of months, I’ve been thinking of replacing the Velo HGS-15 with another SVS PB-12 NSD. The reason is that the Velo can’t go low or too loud and I felt it was likely affecting the overall bass performance, particularly how low the bass could go. Nawawala ang “shake” which you feel with bass that goes below 20 Hz.
I decided to borrow another PB-12 NSD from Mike C. After about 5 hours of setting it up and auditioning (using an SVS AS-EQ1, Audyssey MultEQ Pro and countless experimenting with sub positioning), I was certain that it was making a significant improvement. Now, I can finally feel the “oomph” in Incredible Hulk, Master and Commander, War of the Worlds and other movies. So … I bought it.
To be truthful, you “feel” the effect only with action movies and even then, usually very few times in a film. Yet, that effect is certainly part of what the director intended for the film and if you don’t “feel” it, you don’t get the full experience of the film – it wakes you up!
For now, I’m pretty happy with the speaker set-up … probably until I win the lotto or something similar.
Thanks, Mike! :)
Post by: blackie on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:00 PM
Congrats Sir Mark!!!!!
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:10 PM
Post by: iiinas on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:20 PM
Post by: gaol on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:34 PM
What if 4 PB12NSD? .... ;) :D :D :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:40 PM
congrats po, seems like improvement is really endless basta alam ang baseline and you know what you want next
Post by: Onkyo606 on Aug 30, 2010 at 07:43 PM
Post by: Stagea on Aug 31, 2010 at 05:02 AM
So you're now running all 5 subs? :o
Ganda sigurado nyan! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 31, 2010 at 06:25 AM
@Gaol, yes, I am now running 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 v.2's and 2 x SVS PB-12 NSD. The Paradigm has its own advantages - its a sealed sub and let's just say that it's more accurate, especially with music material. However, each Paradigm costs much more than even the SVS PB-13 Ultra and they don't go below 20 Hz. That's why I say that the SVS subs are "value for money".
@Onkyo606, next time na EB. Yes, improvements in this hobby are actually endless. The important thing is to research well and be honest to yourself. Don't fool yourself into thinking that this beautiful new "whatever" will improve your system. Study it carefully and if possible, test it with a friend. That's why I spent more than 5 hours optimizing the new sub before I could say that it had truly made an improvement in my system.
@Stagea, nope, I've retired my Velo HGS-15 ... unless someone wants to buy it.
Post by: Weng! on Aug 31, 2010 at 07:54 AM
Thanks, guys!
@Gaol, yes, I am now running 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 v.2's and 2 x SVS PB-12 NSD. The Paradigm has its own advantages - its a sealed sub and let's just say that it's more accurate, especially with music material. However, each Paradigm costs much more than even the SVS PB-13 Ultra and they don't go below 20 Hz. That's why I say that the SVS subs are "value for money".
@Onkyo606, next time na EB. Yes, improvements in this hobby are actually endless. The important thing is to research well and be honest to yourself. Don't fool yourself into thinking that this beautiful new "whatever" will improve your system. Study it carefully and if possible, test it with a friend. That's why I spent more than 5 hours optimizing the new sub before I could say that it had truly made an improvement in my system.
@Stagea, nope, I've retired my Velo HGS-15 ... unless someone wants to buy it.
congrats sir mark, dami mung sub just like mikec ;D
pila na sa velo sub ;D
Post by: mike c on Aug 31, 2010 at 09:24 AM
dapat dalawang set of subs:
two EQ1's
one for the ported subs for HT (dapat four ported subs)
one for the sealed subs for music (dapat four sealed subs - palabas na sealed subs ng SVS)
haha. kulam na agad kahit kabibili lang.
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 31, 2010 at 09:58 AM
Post by: praktikal on Aug 31, 2010 at 11:04 AM
bonggang bongga! :o :o
Post by: gaol on Aug 31, 2010 at 11:07 AM
Thanks, guys!
@Gaol, yes, I am now running 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 v.2's and 2 x SVS PB-12 NSD. The Paradigm has its own advantages - its a sealed sub and let's just say that it's more accurate, especially with music material. However, each Paradigm costs much more than even the SVS PB-13 Ultra and they don't go below 20 Hz. That's why I say that the SVS subs are "value for money".
Hi Mark, does the sound quality default to the less capable sub/s (Although both svs and paradigm are very much capable, I'm sure)? Like what happened to Jay2's setup: the velodyne was affecting the performance such that when we removed it from the setup, the performance of just the dual pb13 ultras was much better despite having 1 less sub in the configuration?
Kung baga, in terms of LFE extension, does the Paradigm hold back the SVS, and does the SVS affect the musical quality of the Paradigm? In other words, what is the effect, whether positive or negative, of mixing 2 very different sets of subs?
Do I make sense? hehe
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 31, 2010 at 12:42 PM
Hi Mark, does the sound quality default to the less capable sub/s (Although both svs and paradigm are very much capable, I'm sure)? Like what happened to Jay2's setup: the velodyne was affecting the performance such that when we removed it from the setup, the performance of just the dual pb13 ultras was much better despite having 1 less sub in the configuration?
Kung baga, in terms of LFE extension, does the Paradigm hold back the SVS, and does the SVS affect the musical quality of the Paradigm? In other words, what is the effect, whether positive or negative, of mixing 2 very different sets of subs?
Do I make sense? hehe
Hi Arn. Yes, you make sense.
I think the answer also depends on whether or not you are using some form of room correction for the bass, similar to the SVS AS-EQ1 (which both Jay2 and I have).
Let’s say that you have 2 subs with dissimilar characteristics – Sub1 goes down to 16 Hz while Sub2 goes down to 24 Hz – and you send the same signal to the 2 subs, using a Y-cable. Both subs will be reproducing the same signal but for signals from 18 to 24 Hz, only Sub1 will be heard. That means that the SPL will be cut in half for those signals. You’ll still be able to hear the deep bass but it will be softer and have less impact.
Next, let’s assume that Sub1 has a flat frequency response (accurate) while the frequency response of Sub2 jumps all over the place. You will get an average response quality that is in-between the 2 subs.
Now, if you use an SVS AS-EQ1, you complicate things. When it “listens” to the 2 subs together, it may think that the lower limit of their combined capability is only 24 Hz (the weaker sub). From what I know, the EQ1 may apply a high-pass filter at 24 Hz, thus effectively removing the 18 to 24 Hz response of Sub1. I think this is exactly what happened in the case of Jay2. He had 2 SVS Ultras with a y-cable and therefore seen as one sub while the Velo CHT-15 had no y-cable so it was also seen as a single sub. No matter how capable the 2 Ultras were, their performance was severely downgraded by the Velo.
The Paradigm Servo-15 v2 can go down to 20 Hz and its frequency response is very flat. The SVS PB12-NSD can go down to 18 Hz and also has a flat FR. The performance is not very different. The fact is that in my system, with only 2 Paradigms, the bass extension does not go as deep as when they are combined with the SVS subs while I could not perceive a serious degradation in bass quality (the presence of the SVS AS-EQ1 also helped out because it flattens the frequency response curve and reduces “ringing” and I think it also helped that I "corner-loaded" the 2 Paradigms).
I guess the lesson is that you should only combine subs which have similar characteristics. Having said this, if you already have 2 dissimilar subs, there is no harm in trying them out together. Who knows? There are a lot of theories in audio but the ultimate proof is actually trying things out.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Aug 31, 2010 at 12:44 PM
congrats on ur 2nd SVS sir mark!!!
ganda cguro lalo DDD dyan!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: praktikal on Aug 31, 2010 at 01:30 PM
Thanks, guys!
@Gaol, yes, I am now running 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 v.2's and 2 x SVS PB-12 NSD. The Paradigm has its own advantages - its a sealed sub and let's just say that it's more accurate, especially with music material. However, each Paradigm costs much more than even the SVS PB-13 Ultra and they don't go below 20 Hz. That's why I say that the SVS subs are "value for money".
@Onkyo606, next time na EB. Yes, improvements in this hobby are actually endless. The important thing is to research well and be honest to yourself. Don't fool yourself into thinking that this beautiful new "whatever" will improve your system. Study it carefully and if possible, test it with a friend. That's why I spent more than 5 hours optimizing the new sub before I could say that it had truly made an improvement in my system.
@Stagea, nope, I've retired my Velo HGS-15 ... unless someone wants to buy it.
magkano daw sabi ng friend ko sir Mark? :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 31, 2010 at 01:41 PM
wow!
congrats on ur 2nd SVS sir mark!!!
ganda cguro lalo DDD dyan!!! ;D ;D ;D
TBH, konti lang ang deep bass dun. Deep throat lang yata. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 31, 2010 at 01:42 PM
magkano daw sabi ng friend ko sir Mark? :)
wala pa offer. still waiting. ;D ;D
Post by: gaol on Aug 31, 2010 at 02:00 PM
Hi Arn. Yes, you make sense.
I think the answer also depends on whether or not you are using some form of room correction for the bass, similar to the SVS AS-EQ1 (which both Jay2 and I have).
Let’s say that you have 2 subs with dissimilar characteristics – Sub1 goes down to 16 Hz while Sub2 goes down to 24 Hz – and you send the same signal to the 2 subs, using a Y-cable. Both subs will be reproducing the same signal but for signals from 18 to 24 Hz, only Sub1 will be heard. That means that the SPL will be cut in half for those signals. You’ll still be able to hear the deep bass but it will be softer and have less impact.
Next, let’s assume that Sub1 has a flat frequency response (accurate) while the frequency response of Sub2 jumps all over the place. You will get an average response quality that is in-between the 2 subs.
Now, if you use an SVS AS-EQ1, you complicate things. When it “listens” to the 2 subs together, it may think that the lower limit of their combined capability is only 24 Hz (the weaker sub). From what I know, the EQ1 may apply a high-pass filter at 24 Hz, thus effectively removing the 18 to 24 Hz response of Sub1. I think this is exactly what happened in the case of Jay2. He had 2 SVS Ultras with a y-cable and therefore seen as one sub while the Velo CHT-15 had no y-cable so it was also seen as a single sub. No matter how capable the 2 Ultras were, their performance was severely downgraded by the Velo.
The Paradigm Servo-15 v2 can go down to 20 Hz and its frequency response is very flat. The SVS PB12-NSD can go down to 18 Hz and also has a flat FR. The performance is not very different. The fact is that in my system, with only 2 Paradigms, the bass extension does not go as deep as when they are combined with the SVS subs while I could not perceive a serious degradation in bass quality (the presence of the SVS AS-EQ1 also helped out because it flattens the frequency response curve and reduces “ringing” and I think it also helped that I "corner-loaded" the 2 Paradigms).
I guess the lesson is that you should only combine subs which have similar characteristics. Having said this, if you already have 2 dissimilar subs, there is no harm in trying them out together. Who knows? There are a lot of theories in audio but the ultimate proof is actually trying things out.
Thanks, Mark, for the detailed explanation. I think I get it. If I'm not mistaken, you've got the best balance of the two similar and yet slightly different subs, so there would be no need to go all 4 SVS, or all 4 Paradigm (budget permitting of course, hehe) for that matter. Tama ba? ;) :D :D Or is this an intermediate move to all SVS? hehehe
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 31, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Thanks, Mark, for the detailed explanation. I think I get it. If I'm not mistaken, you've got the best balance of the two similar and yet slightly different subs, so there would be no need to go all 4 SVS, or all 4 Paradigm (budget permitting of course, hehe) for that matter. Tama ba? ;) :D :D Or is this an intermediate move to all SVS? hehehe
I think that I have a good balance between the qualities of the 2 subs. Mike C is actually correct that the best would be 4 Paradigms and 4 SVS subs but that would be insanely expensive and I don't think it would be worth it.
Before I would do that, I'd rather spend the same amount to upgrade my main speakers. I think that improvement would be much more noticeable. :)
Post by: praktikal on Aug 31, 2010 at 02:24 PM
I think that I have a good balance between the qualities of the 2 subs. Mike C is actually correct that the best would be 4 Paradigms and 4 SVS subs but that would be insanely expensive and I don't think it would be worth it.
Before I would do that, I'd rather spend the same amount to upgrade my main speakers. I think that improvement would be much more noticeable. :)
+1
paano ang layout, both svs near side wall and twin paradigm sa inner?
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 31, 2010 at 02:33 PM
paano ang layout, both svs near side wall and twin paradigm sa inner?
Nope. Each paradigm is at a corner, so as to boost their SPL and get deeper extension. Then 1 SVS beside each Paradigm.
Post by: macdon on Aug 31, 2010 at 06:29 PM
Post by: Stagea on Aug 31, 2010 at 10:50 PM
@Stagea, nope, I've retired my Velo HGS-15 ... unless someone wants to buy it.
Nice. Ang swerte naman ng makakakuha nito. :)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 02, 2010 at 06:30 PM
4some na sila sir Mark . . . congrats sa PB12!
Post by: John E. on Sep 03, 2010 at 06:17 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 03, 2010 at 07:19 AM
congrats! can't wait to see it! :P
Ber months na. Lapit na pasko. ;D ;D
Post by: blackie on Sep 03, 2010 at 03:22 PM
Ber months na. Lapit na pasko. ;D ;D;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 03, 2010 at 03:26 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
kaya handa mo na tuhod mo sir!
Post by: blackie on Sep 03, 2010 at 06:05 PM
kaya handa mo na tuhod mo sir!
Will bring red wine para iwas gout....
Post by: nogie on Sep 03, 2010 at 09:04 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 03, 2010 at 11:00 PM
sana by December meron na rin ako PB12. :'( Congrats sir Mark! ;)
ang magagawa ngayon, wag ng ipag december pa
wag ng mag patumpik tumpik pa. ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 05, 2010 at 02:54 PM
wag ng mag patumpik tumpik pa. ;);D
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 06, 2010 at 08:46 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 06, 2010 at 11:41 PM
Sir Mark mayron na naman pala bago dito :o mayron ulit bagong experience sa dadating na Christmas EB ;D
sa xmas pa ba, wala bang bago mag xmas hehehehehe
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 07, 2010 at 07:13 AM
sa xmas pa ba, wala bang bago mag xmas hehehehehe
Meron nga akong plano pero pinag-iisipan ko pa. VideoEQ Pro.
Post by: macdon on Sep 07, 2010 at 09:55 AM
Tupayb nalang sa akin yan :D ;D joke, joke ;D
Post by: Weng! on Sep 07, 2010 at 10:05 AM
So paano sir Mark - eh di may extra subwoofer ka jan ngayon, diba?
Tupayb nalang sa akin yan :D ;D joke, joke ;D
brader mac, sakto may extra velo si sir mark. that will surely mate with your sms-1 ;D gawin mo nalang na 2nd sub ang halimaw just in case na ma repair ang driver or you can find a new w6 ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 07, 2010 at 10:11 AM
Meron nga akong plano pero pinag-iisipan ko pa. VideoEQ Pro.
ayun oh, ayosssssss, see you soon sir mark ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 07, 2010 at 12:12 PM
So paano sir Mark - eh di may extra subwoofer ka jan ngayon, diba?
Tupayb nalang sa akin yan :D ;D joke, joke ;D
Give me an offer. Basta ikaw, friendly deal! :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 07, 2010 at 01:56 PM
Give me an offer. Basta ikaw, friendly deal! :)
yun oh...
wag ng mag patumpik tumpik pa kagawad mac, banat na agad ;D ;D ;D
Post by: gaol on Sep 07, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Give me an offer. Basta ikaw, friendly deal! :)
Aba aba sobrang bargain yan! Kunin na hwag nang maghintay ng pasko, tutal BER month na ang septemBER! hehehe ;D
Post by: macdon on Sep 07, 2010 at 03:13 PM
Give me an offer. Basta ikaw, friendly deal! :)
Nakaka excite naman nyan sir Mark! :o Naihi ako sa pantalon ko ah ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 07, 2010 at 03:14 PM
Nakaka excite naman nyan sir Mark! :o Naihi ako sa pantalon ko ah ;D
ayan ang tama wag ng mag cr pag naiihi ikaw din kagawad baka magaya ka kay brader alvin, umihi lang pag balik wala na nyaaaaaaaaa
wag ng mag patumpik tumpik pa ;D ;D
Post by: macdon on Sep 07, 2010 at 03:19 PM
ayan ang tama wag ng mag cr pag naiihi ikaw din kagawad baka magaya ka kay brader alvin, umihi lang pag balik wala na nyaaaaaaaaa
wag ng mag patumpik tumpik pa ;D ;D
Ano kaya ang mai-offer ko kay sir Mark nyan ::) Si MikeC kasi humingi ng babae para sa svs nya........ayun, pinadala ko si inday :D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 07, 2010 at 03:22 PM
Ano kaya ang mai-offer ko kay sir Mark nyan ::) Si MikeC kasi humingi ng babae para sa svs nya........ayun, pinadala ko si inday :D ;D
anak ng tipaklong nalaglag ako sa upuan ko kagawad wooohoooooo
Post by: macdon on Sep 07, 2010 at 03:32 PM
anak ng tipaklong nalaglag ako sa upuan ko kagawad wooohoooooo
andito pa naman si manang eh, kapatid ni Inday........baka kung si manang padala ko svs ultra na binigay ni MikeC :D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 07, 2010 at 03:37 PM
andito pa naman si manang eh, kapatid ni Inday........baka kung si manang padala ko svs ultra na binigay ni MikeC :D ;D
ayosssssss
sir mark tumambay muna po kami ha.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 07, 2010 at 04:42 PM
Nakaka excite naman nyan sir Mark! :o Naihi ako sa pantalon ko ah ;D
Hehe. Basta wag si Inday ang offer mo. ;D ;D
Post by: jay2 on Sep 09, 2010 at 04:57 PM
dapat siguro dalawa na din ang eq1
;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 09, 2010 at 05:34 PM
Congrats sir mark on your 2nd svs sub!!!
dapat siguro dalawa na din ang eq1
;D
Haha! Yun nga suggestion ni Mike C. pero kasabay daw ng 2 x PB-13 Ultra. Maloko sya! ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 09, 2010 at 06:38 PM
Haha! Yun nga suggestion ni Mike C. pero kasabay daw ng 2 x PB-13 Ultra. Maloko sya! ;D ;D
yan ang the best wooohooooo
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 21, 2010 at 02:07 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/videoeqpro.jpg)
User video calibration normally deals with the 5 common picture controls – brightness, contrast, color (or saturation), hue (or tint), sharpness. In order to adjust these properly, you need video patterns which are commonly available for free in THX dvd’s and lately in Disney blurays. You can find lots of instructions in the web on how to use these patterns.
Professional video calibration goes beyond these basic controls and involves 3 main things:
1) Gray-scale
2) Gamma
3) Color Management
Let me try to explain my understanding of these in as simple a manner possible. Please feel free to comment:
Gray-scale involves the proper balance of the primary colors (red, green and blue) at different luminance levels (which are designated as 0 IRE to 100 IRE). If the 3 colors are properly mixed, you will get white (at 100 IRE) and a shade of gray at any other IRE level. There are many patterns available which show graduations of gray from pure white to black and if the primary colors are not properly mixed, you will note that some shades are pinkish, bluish or greenish. It is quite common in fact for whites to be bluish and blacks to be reddish. In order to properly adjust the gray-scale, you need (1) a spectrophotometer (or something similar) to take readings of gray levels, (2) a dvd, bd or another instrument to produce grays at different luminance levels and (3) software to analyze the readings from the spectrophotometer. The problem is that usually, displays can only adjust the gray scale at 2 points (typically 30 IRE and 80 IRE). You can get a perfect RGB balance at these 2 points and then hope that you get a good balance at other IRE levels. Unfortunately, that often is not the case. There are few displays which can adjust gray-scale at more than 2 points – for example, the JVC RS-25 or RS-35 projectors.
While gray-scale involves the balance of RGB, gamma involves the proper luminance level (relative to the luminance of white) at varying IRE levels. Let us say that at 50 IRE, you may have a perfect balance of RGB but if the luminance level is too low, this would result in a picture which is too dark. If the gamma is not correct, you will get a picture which looks flat, without depth, looks more 2d than 3d. With the correct gamma, you will get the proper shades of colors and therefore you will see fine details such as skin pores, creases on fabrics, etc. Using the same instruments and software as with gray-scale, you can adjust gamma but you encounter the same problem. Most displays allow you to adjust gamma at only 2 points so you may get it right at these 2 points and wrong elsewhere. There are exceptions, of course, such as the Panasonic PT-AE4000 projector which allows you to correct gamma at 10 points.
The last step involves color management, which is basically similar to the “color” and “tint” controls except that for professional calibration, you must make these adjustments for red, green, blue, magenta, cyan and yellow. For each color, you adjust its saturation (closeness to white), brightness (closeness to black) and hue (color mix). If the color management is not correct, even if your gray-scale and gamma are correct, the picture will be inaccurate. The colors may be off or may look artificially saturated. Most displays do not have a color management system. The only ones I am aware of that have them are the JVC RS-25 and RS-35 projectors.
My previous system (even with a DVDO VP50 Pro video processor) only had a 2-point calibration for gray-scale and gamma while it had no color management system. The VideoEQ Pro has an 11-point calibration for gray-scale and gamma and a full color management system. It also allows you to have a very fine control because each calibration point has 1024 steps. Imagine a brightness control that allows you to have 1024 adjustment levels – that’s how this gadget works. You just insert the gadget between the display and the AVR (or in my case, the video processor).
It took some time to get used to how it works. I probably spent more than 15 hours working with it before I was satisfied with the results.
For me, the cost and effort were worth it. There’s a significant improvement in pq. You can see a lot more detail and the picture is more 3d. It’s most noticeable in close-ups of faces – you can see the pores, pimples, blemishes. There is more depth … parang buhay.
I've decided not to post screen shots. They don't do justice to the actual picture.
Post by: markcrenz on Oct 21, 2010 at 02:49 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2010 at 03:13 PM
congrats po ;)
Post by: iiinas on Oct 21, 2010 at 03:19 PM
but i have seen the video eq pro at work. in some cases, it made the picture so crisp that it had the "handycam effect". :o
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2010 at 04:59 PM
may iba pang bago yan si sir mark. dipa pinapasabog! ;)
but i have seen the video eq pro at work. in some cases, it made the picture so crisp that it had the "handycam effect". :o
hmmmmm parang may apat na numero yata yung bago kagawad, tama ba ako??
Post by: juanch on Oct 21, 2010 at 07:10 PM
As usual always 10 steps ahead of us. Haha
I can't wait to witness the newly calibrated PJ :)
Post by: iiinas on Oct 21, 2010 at 07:37 PM
hmmmmm parang may apat na numero yata yung bago kagawad, tama ba ako??
BINGO! ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Oct 21, 2010 at 07:54 PM
Congrats sir Mark with your new gear.
As usual always 10 steps ahead of us. Haha
I can't wait to witness the newly calibrated PJ :)
10 lang ba? Bilang ko 100 eh. ;)
Congrats sir Mark. ;)
Post by: stickfighter on Oct 21, 2010 at 08:05 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2010 at 08:55 PM
BINGO! ;D
ayossssss triple excitement pala tong darating na kitakits eh
baong tangke, bagong calibrate at syempre yung exciting na mga anik anik ;D ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 21, 2010 at 08:57 PM
Congrats sir Mark on your new addition to your HT! ;D
aparisyon??????
oh wag ng tumutol brader dun ka na bumawi sa thread natin hahahahahaha
Post by: juanch on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:55 PM
10 lang ba? Bilang ko 100 eh. ;)
Congrats sir Mark. ;)
Now that you mention it, ganun nga ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 22, 2010 at 07:57 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 22, 2010 at 08:58 AM
It takes time to learn video calibration but I don’t think the basics of it are that difficult to understand. Once you comprehend the basics, it’s much easier and it becomes quite fun. As I mentioned, I’ve spent hours and hours tinkering with the VideoEQ Pro and I’m not yet done. The nice thing is that after putting in the effort, you can appreciate that the video has truly improved – this technology is not snake oil.
Post by: macdon on Oct 22, 2010 at 10:13 AM
BINGO! ;D
Yan ba yung "4" sa una tapos "1" sa huli? ;D
Post by: iiinas on Oct 22, 2010 at 10:25 AM
Yan ba yung "4" sa una tapos "1" sa huli? ;D
hehehe. tumpak kagawad! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Oct 22, 2010 at 11:44 AM
hehehe. tumpak kagawad! ;D ;D ;D
Yan ba yung "4" sa una tapos "1" sa huli? ;D
may tama ka kagawad mac hahahahaha
talagang si sir mark mahilig sa numbers
naisip ko pag pun ta ulit sa kanila isusulat ko lahat ng numbers ng gears nya tapos laruin ko mga number to get a 6 number combination baka ito ang susi sa aking pag yaman ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Nov 21, 2010 at 12:40 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 21, 2010 at 06:49 AM
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 21, 2010 at 07:56 AM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 21, 2010 at 08:37 AM
Yup its excellent, pics really pop up like wow..Really saw the beauty of it with great blu-ray transfers like Sound of Music..Sarap talaga ceguro to watch Debbie dian ngayon ;D
nanood kayo ng debbie nung wala pa ako??? ;D ;D ;D
thank you mark for again being the generous host of pdvd xmas eb!
it was another successful party & everyone went home happy!
ang daming raffle!
congrats to the major major prize winner anthony!
congrats din sa other major prize winners!
si tirso ang galing! natupad yung SVS or nothing wish nya! congrats!
nice meeting all you guys (too many to mention) !!!
basta 1 lang natandaan ko..... si beridot na mahilig sa bird !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 08:38 AM
Yup its excellent, pics really pop up like wow..Really saw the beauty of it with great blu-ray transfers like Sound of Music..Sarap talaga ceguro to watch Debbie dian ngayon ;D
thats what you miss when you go home early hehehehehehe
as usual sir mark, maraming salamat for being generous to accept us again and again sa iyong tahanan, it was a fun filled afternoon. ;) ;) ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 08:40 AM
nanood kayo ng debbie nung wala pa ako??? ;D ;D ;D
thank you mark for again being the generous host of pdvd xmas eb!
it was another successful party & everyone went home happy!
ang daming raffle!
congrats to the major major prize winner anthony!
congrats din sa other major prize winners!
si tirso ang galing! natupad yung SVS or nothing wish nya! congrats!
nung umalis ka na saka nanood hahahahaha
nice meeting you sir finally and thank you
SVS or nothing FTW ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 21, 2010 at 10:04 AM
nanood kayo ng debbie nung wala pa ako??? ;D ;D ;D
thank you mark for again being the generous host of pdvd xmas eb!
it was another successful party & everyone went home happy!
ang daming raffle!
congrats to the major major prize winner anthony!
congrats din sa other major prize winners!
si tirso ang galing! natupad yung SVS or nothing wish nya! congrats!
nice meeting all you guys (too many to mention) !!!
basta 1 lang natandaan ko..... si beridot na mahilig sa bird !!! ;D ;D ;D
Tweet tweet!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM
nung umalis ka na saka nanood hahahahaha
nice meeting you sir finally and thank you
SVS or nothing FTW ;D ;D ;D ;D
nice meeting u too bro! pogi mo lalo sa personal!
tataya ako lotto mamaya.... tingnan ko kung epektib himas ko sa buddha tummy mo! ;D ;D ;D
Tweet tweet!
nice meeting u bro nelson!
Post by: juanch on Nov 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM
It never fails to impress, each time I visit there is always an improvement.
The 11.4 set up is to die for and the new video calibration obviously improves your PJ's PQ ;)
Post by: praktikal on Nov 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM
maraming salamat sir Mark! Long Live the King of HT! :o
Post by: anya618 on Nov 21, 2010 at 11:17 AM
Post by: macdon on Nov 21, 2010 at 12:07 PM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 21, 2010 at 12:44 PM
smoking buddies... ;D
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs990.snc4/76373_460965993510_566843510_5645426_5767561_n.jpg)
happy & normal kagawad... ;D ;D
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1143.snc4/148549_460966068510_566843510_5645431_7846230_n.jpg)
happy with his hdmi cables!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs480.ash2/75308_460966638510_566843510_5645446_4522678_n.jpg)
our generous host...
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs978.snc4/77157_460966233510_566843510_5645436_501244_n.jpg)
our emcees! (aga mulach & richard gomez!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs589.ash2/154193_460966273510_566843510_5645438_488196_n.jpg)
our official photographer HBREW!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs589.ash2/154193_460966273510_566843510_5645438_488196_n.jpg[img]
[img]http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs597.ash2/154955_460966558510_566843510_5645445_6597465_n.jpg)
minor raffle prizes!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1126.snc4/148866_460966363510_566843510_5645440_5082076_n.jpg)
sabi ni mark... sana wag ako mabunot.... (mnior prizes pa lang kasi ang dina-draw... ;D ;D ;D)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1146.snc4/148852_460967128510_566843510_5645463_955749_n.jpg)
attendees pix....
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1144.snc4/148665_460966123510_566843510_5645433_2633733_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1200.snc4/155260_460966318510_566843510_5645439_2212974_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs491.ash2/76474_460966413510_566843510_5645442_7436476_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs485.ash2/75862_460966483510_566843510_5645443_4954148_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs589.ash2/154144_460966698510_566843510_5645449_4509895_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1206.snc4/155830_460966808510_566843510_5645451_660179_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs998.snc4/77180_460966933510_566843510_5645454_7270193_n.jpg)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs465.ash2/73881_460967023510_566843510_5645459_6397760_n.jpg)
guess who? ;D ;D ;D ;D (LABYU! PEACE!)
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs491.ash2/76453_460967238510_566843510_5645470_8077534_n.jpg)
Thanks dito sa minor raffle prize ko!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs573.ash2/149521_460967313510_566843510_5645475_6703153_n.jpg)
i should say i immediately felt the improvement on my vocals!
maybe because of the slight increase in height & the isolation!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM
nice meeting u too bro! pogi mo lalo sa personal!
tataya ako lotto mamaya.... tingnan ko kung epektib himas ko sa buddha tummy mo! ;D ;D ;D
nice meeting u bro nelson!
by the power bestowed upon me go get that lotto jackpot brader
yung unang numbers na nakita ko 13, 17, yung unang dumating 4, sumunod 1, camera ni iiinas 550d so thats 55, SVS speaker cost 14K, 42 ang dumating 42 din ang grand prize, 29K yung discount card
Bahala ka na sa mga numbers na yan brader hehehehehehe
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 12:59 PM
thanks for hosting the party sir, nakakaenganyo tuloy mag upgrade sa pj ::)
ano pa ang iniintay brader anya...
WAG NG MAG PATUMPIK TUMPIK PA BANTA NAAAHHHHH ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:02 PM
congrats ;D ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:03 PM
Nice meeting all the other members old timers & new folks alike and . . . Congrats to all the winners!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:07 PM
Ok yung VideoEq sir Mark laki ng improvement sa PQ ng PJ mo. Thanks for generously hosting the EB once again!
Nice meeting all the other members old timers & new folks alike and . . . Congrats to all the winners!
dumadami na ang sfekers mo brader, wooohoooo
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:13 PM
dumadami na ang sfekers mo brader, wooohoooo
Oo nga eh ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:17 PM
Oo nga eh ;D
at may maganda ka pang IC wooohoooo ulit ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:30 PM
at may maganda ka pang IC wooohoooo ulit ;D
ahhaha yep audiong-audio mga nahakot ko sa raffle ;D Tnx uli pala kay master JojoD & Mark of AVshop at sa owner ng blu-ray calibration disc na nakuha ko.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:37 PM
ahhaha yep audiong-audio mga nahakot ko sa raffle ;D Tnx uli pala kay master JojoD & Mark of AVshop at sa owner ng blu-ray calibration disc na nakuha ko.
alvithx2 brader ang nag dala nyan
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 21, 2010 at 01:55 PM
Post by: macdon on Nov 21, 2010 at 02:06 PM
some initial amateur pix........
smoking buddies... ;D
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs990.snc4/76373_460965993510_566843510_5645426_5767561_n.jpg)
happy & normal kagawad... ;D ;D
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1143.snc4/148549_460966068510_566843510_5645431_7846230_n.jpg)
happy with his hdmi cables!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs480.ash2/75308_460966638510_566843510_5645446_4522678_n.jpg)
our generous host...
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs978.snc4/77157_460966233510_566843510_5645436_501244_n.jpg)
our emcees! (aga mulach & richard gomez!
(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs589.ash2/154193_460966273510_566843510_5645438_488196_n.jpg)
our official photographer HBREW!
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minor raffle prizes!
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sabi ni mark... sana wag ako mabunot.... (mnior prizes pa lang kasi ang dina-draw... ;D ;D ;D)
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attendees pix....
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guess who? ;D ;D ;D ;D (LABYU! PEACE!)
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Thanks dito sa minor raffle prize ko!
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i should say i immediately felt the improvement on my vocals!
maybe because of the slight increase in height & the isolation!
Papa Jim - I transferred your post/pics sa 2010 xmas thread, para all relevant xmas eb pics are in one thread nalang ;)
Here's the 2010 pdvd xmas eb thread: http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,125148.0.html
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 21, 2010 at 02:24 PM
Maraming salamat to the X'mas committee members and helpers, including Onkyo606, Nelson de Leon, Jazzy Jake (kahit di sya nakarating, marami po syang tulong), Iiinas, DTS-hd 3d, Gaol and Blackie.
As predicted, it was non-stop laughter session. Dami food and ang sarap. Open bar (kaya lang may nasobrahan ;D).
Best of all, we all got to meet new Pinoydvd friends. Iba talaga ang Pinoydvd. :) :)
Post by: gaol on Nov 21, 2010 at 06:08 PM
It was nice meeting everyone, some again and some for the first time. Congrats to all the winners especially the major winners and the major, major winner! ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2010 at 09:16 PM
congratulations to all !! lahat panalo :D
btw sino nakapaguwi ng wireless keyboard and mouse? nakalimutan ko kasi ibalik yung mga battery ;D ;D
nice meeting you all, especially the birdman :D
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 21, 2010 at 09:23 PM
Thanks a lot for having us in your wonderful home! Nakakatuwa naman to meet the faces behind the names, super ang kakulitan talaga... mabuhay ang PinoyDVD!
8)
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Nov 22, 2010 at 06:57 AM
Thank you very much for the warm welcome and gracious hospitality.
For a newbie like me this is one of a kind... and im very proud that i am a member of PDVD.
I'm looking forward for the next year's xmas eb..hehehe
Sorry po i am late i hope may nakatikim or nakakain ng dala kong food...hehe
Thank you ulit sa mga host na lalong nagpasaya ng party... Brod Tirso and Master Nelson... :)
Nice meeting you all mga Sir's sa dami nyo hnd ko na matandaan kung sino yung mga nakatabi ko
nakasama sa smoking sessions at nakakwentuhan... anyways mabuhay kayong lahat!... :)
Isa lang cguro hnd ko makakalimutan si Kagawad iiinas...hehe Peace kagawad!
Congratz to all winners specially to Sir Anthony...
Cheers!... :)
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 22, 2010 at 08:48 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 22, 2010 at 09:55 AM
Sir Mark, I missed a lot :( first time nawala ako sa Christmas Party ng PDVD sa house mo hu hu hu. Hay naku next year hindi na dapat maulit ito.
dapat talaga di na maulit kase ikaw pinag kwentuhan namin hehehehehe
na miss ka namin brader ;)
Post by: Waxx on Nov 22, 2010 at 10:50 AM
naging dream theater talaga ang theater nyo dahil sarap ng zzZZZzzzz ni sir iiinas kagawad..
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2010 at 11:27 AM
Grabe the PJ was really breathtaking with the color accuracy and fine detail of the material you showed. I really appreciated The Sound of Music but I'm sure it won't be the same with my gear. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/17.gif)
My HT looked like ACT theater compared to your Director's Club when I went home. Nevertheless, you are always an inspiration for upgrades! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 22, 2010 at 11:58 AM
dapat talaga di na maulit kase ikaw pinag kwentuhan namin hehehehehe
na miss ka namin brader ;)
oo nga brader. kaya nga puro ang text ko sa iyo ;) sayang yung mga raffle prizes. sana next year wala na conflict sa schedule :)
Post by: praktikal on Nov 22, 2010 at 01:58 PM
Thanks sir Mark for accomodating us....AGAIN!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)yun na! go gp Mel :o
Grabe the PJ was really breathtaking with the color accuracy and fine detail of the material you showed. I really appreciated The Sound of Music but I'm sure it won't be the same with my gear. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/17.gif)
My HT looked like ACT theater compared to your Director's Club when I went home. Nevertheless, you are always an inspiration for upgrades! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 22, 2010 at 02:41 PM
Thanks sir Mark for accomodating us....AGAIN!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Grabe the PJ was really breathtaking with the color accuracy and fine detail of the material you showed. I really appreciated The Sound of Music but I'm sure it won't be the same with my gear. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/17.gif)
My HT looked like ACT theater compared to your Director's Club when I went home. Nevertheless, you are always an inspiration for upgrades! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
that's the only "so called" ;D negative ;D, when we drop by Sir Mark's place. Whenever I go home I always put in the video that he demoes in his theater. I always go "man how come mine looks so ugly, have to calibrate again ;D with my thx optimizer lang ;D Not only that, my darn screen is sooo small ;D. Naka 55 inch Led na ako, iba talaga projector ;) ;D. You just go "Wow"
Kakapal ko mukha ko ngayon Sir Mark.. ;D Sir Mark, if Pacquiao fights Mayweather, if you have PPV, invite mo kami ha. I wanna watch in your place hehe..
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 22, 2010 at 02:46 PM
that's the only "so called" ;D negative ;D, when we drop by Sir Mark's place. Whenever I go home I always put in the video that he demoes in his theater. I always go "man how come mine looks so ugly, have to calibrate again ;D with my thx optimizer lang ;D Not only that, my darn screen is sooo small ;D. Naka 55 inch Led na ako, iba talaga projector ;) ;D. You just go "Wow"
Kakapal ko mukha ko ngayon Sir Mark.. ;D Sir Mark, if Pacquiao fights Mayweather, if you have PPV, invite mo kami ha. I wanna watch in your place hehe..
Hahaha! I always watch at Grilla, near Rockwell. The picture is horrible and the audio is worse but there are more than a hundred people screaming their heads off. It's fun!
Post by: praktikal on Nov 22, 2010 at 02:56 PM
ps- wag po kayong nagpapaniwala kay amigong Tirso ;D nagulat ako't sa Hot ot Not thread ako ikinabit :( :D e ako'y hamak na maninilip lamang. i mean, you know, tagamasid baga ;D ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:10 PM
by the power bestowed upon me go get that lotto jackpot brader
yung unang numbers na nakita ko 13, 17, yung unang dumating 4, sumunod 1, camera ni iiinas 550d so thats 55, SVS speaker cost 14K, 42 ang dumating 42 din ang grand prize, 29K yung discount card
Bahala ka na sa mga numbers na yan brader hehehehehehe
gandang tip nito !!!
makopya nga.... ;D ;D ;D
thank you for being such a wonderful host sir mark!;D ;D ;D
naging dream theater talaga ang theater nyo dahil sarap ng zzZZZzzzz ni sir iiinas kagawad..
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:15 PM
i find the high ceiling makes a difference. mas maganda ang epek ng surround para sa akin, tama ba sir Mark? salamat po uli sir.
The general rule is that the bigger the volume of the room, the less the acoustic problems.
As an example, it is generally advisable for speakers and listeners to not be located near walls. If you have a small room, that's hard to avoid. I've found that the minimum room area should be around 23 to 25 square meters.
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:34 PM
The general rule is that the bigger the volume of the room, the less the acoustic problems.
As an example, it is generally advisable for speakers and listeners to not be located near walls. If you have a small room, that's hard to avoid. I've found that the minimum room area should be around 23 to 25 square meters.
Patay di suwak sa minimum ang room size ko....a measly 14 sq meters. Naghahalikan ang listeners and speakers sa liit. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/2.gif)
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:35 PM
yun na! go gp Mel :o
Ano pa ang upgrade ko....11.4 surround sound and 130" screen sa 14 sq. meters? Teka.....(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:43 PM
Ano pa ang upgrade ko....11.4 surround sound and 130" screen sa 14 sq. meters? Teka.....(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/39.gif)
Upgrade mo ang room ... ;D
Long-term plan naman.
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:58 PM
Upgrade mo ang room ... ;D
Long-term plan naman.
Nakow sir Mark: Upgrade room = upgrade house. Madugo!!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/114.gif)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 23, 2010 at 01:32 AM
Nakow sir Mark: Upgrade room ko sabay ko na ang house upgrade Madugo pero kakayanin naman!!!! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/114.gif)
ayun naman pala Doc Mel eh, congrats in advance ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 23, 2010 at 05:09 AM
Post by: iiinas on Nov 23, 2010 at 07:21 AM
THE PINOY DVD Christmas EB 2010!!!
we would like to thank the donors for this year's raffle prizes:
Sights and Sounds = One (1) Panasonic 42" Plasma Panel
AV Driver = One (1) Sony STR AV Receiver
eHome = Two (2) Mede8er 300x Multimedia Player
AV Shop = One (1) Pair Whafedale Amber Bookshelf Speakers
= One (1) Pair Wharfedale Crystal Bookshelf Speakers
MKC Interbnational = One (1) Mopad & SVS Gift Certificates
Johnny Air Cargo = Php 5,000 Cash & One (1) Grill
SGT Home Theater = One (1) VestaLife Ipod Music Dock
A Audio = One (1) Pair A Audio Genesis Bookshelf Speakers
Audio World = One (1) Vibrapod + T-shirts
Sabre = Five (5) Sabre 10 ft HDMI Cables
JDLabs = One (1) JDLabs Interconnect
Watt Hifi = One (1) Interconnect
Pepsi = Assorted Pepsi Products
Oishi = Assorted Oishi Products
Individual Member Donors:
Waxx = One (1) Toshiba HDDVD Player + HDDVDs
Anya618 = One (1) Toshiba XDE600 HDMI DVD PLayer + BBC DVD Series (17 discs)
Moks007 = One (1) WD 320gb Hard Disk Drive
Trod93 = One (1) Pair Standing Bass Traps
Timber915 = One (1) Bosch Electric Screwdriver
Pchin = Assorted Bluray Discs + HDDVDs
DOM = Assorted Bluray Discs
Cjtjader = DIY Interconnects
Post by: macdon on Nov 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 23, 2010 at 01:01 PM
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THE PINOY DVD Christmas EB 2010!!!
we would like to thank the donors for this year's raffle prizes:
Sights and Sounds = One (1) Panasonic 42" Plasma Panel
AV Driver = One (1) Sony STR AV Receiver
eHome = Two (2) Mede8er 300x Multimedia Player
AV Shop = One (1) Pair Whafedale Amber Bookshelf Speakers
= One (1) Pair Wharfedale Crystal Bookshelf Speakers
MKC Interbnational = One (1) Mopad & SVS Gift Certificates
Johnny Air Cargo = Php 5,000 Cash & One (1) Grill
SGT Home Theater = One (1) VestaLife Ipod Music Dock
A Audio = One (1) Pair A Audio Genesis Bookshelf Speakers
Audio World = One (1) Vibrapod + T-shirts
Sabre = Five (5) Sabre 10 ft HDMI Cables
JDLabs = One (1) JDLabs Interconnect
Watt Hifi = One (1) Interconnect
Pepsi = Assorted Pepsi Products
Oishi = Assorted Oishi Products
Individual Member Donors:
Waxx = One (1) Toshiba HDDVD Player + HDDVDs
Anya618 = One (1) Toshiba XDE600 HDMI DVD PLayer + BBC DVD Series (17 discs)
Moks007 = One (1) WD 320gb Hard Disk Drive
Trod93 = One (1) Pair Standing Bass Traps
Timber915 = One (1) Bosch Electric Screwdriver
Pchin = Assorted Bluray Discs + HDDVDs
DOM = Assorted Bluray Discs
Cjtjader = DIY Interconnects
hu hu hu, napaka lungkot at hindi ako nakarating. napakadaming prizes at sobrang ganda nung model :( kagawad paki sulat naman sa tabi sino-sino ang masuwerte na nagwagi ;)
Post by: alvinh on Nov 24, 2010 at 12:26 PM
hu hu hu, napaka lungkot at hindi ako nakarating. napakadaming prizes at sobrang ganda nung model :( kagawad paki sulat naman sa tabi sino-sino ang masuwerte na nagwagi ;)
Waaaaaah! Ako din :'(...Happy Holidays to everyone! :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 24, 2010 at 02:42 PM
Waaaaaah! Ako din :'(...Happy Holidays to everyone! :D
mahirap talagta brader alvs paga nga papagwa ng dream theater sa malayong lugar ano ayan di nakarating hehehehe
musta na sir miss ka na namin :) :) :) :) :)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 24, 2010 at 03:30 PM
see u next year! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 24, 2010 at 04:41 PM
Post by: reynold on Nov 24, 2010 at 04:52 PM
Ano na kaya ang prizes next year....abangan!!! Kaya mga umabsent, bumawi na!
Malamang yung projector ni Sir Mark ang kasama sa exchange Gift ;)
(sana...sana...sana...;D)
Post by: anchit on Nov 24, 2010 at 07:57 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 24, 2010 at 08:17 PM
center speaker ata yung cyrstal na napanalunan ko, kaya 1pc lang hehehe salamat Marc!
Huy! hindi center yun! Baka nagkamali lang ng sulat kasi nagmamadali. One pair yun brad. ;D
Post by: alvinh on Nov 24, 2010 at 09:31 PM
mahirap talagta brader alvs paga nga papagwa ng dream theater sa malayong lugar ano ayan di nakarating hehehehe
musta na sir miss ka na namin :) :) :) :) :)
Nakups...idle mode brader. I also miss the fun here with all the mangkus..iba talaga ang braderhood pag si debbie na ang pinag usapan. hahaha
Ano na kaya ang prizes next year....abangan!!! Kaya mga umabsent, bumawi na!
Babawi kami! ;D
Post by: anchit on Nov 24, 2010 at 09:36 PM
Huy! hindi center yun! Baka nagkamali lang ng sulat kasi nagmamadali. One pair yun brad. ;D
crystal CR 30.1 tito nelson nakalagay :)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 24, 2010 at 10:54 PM
center speaker ata yung cyrstal na napanalunan ko, kaya 1pc lang hehehe salamat Marc!
Meron bro nakasulat na 1pc.? Bookshelf yan CR-30C yata yung center.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 24, 2010 at 11:19 PM
crystal CR 30.1 tito nelson nakalagay :)
one pair yan sir
pag isa lang binigay sagot na ni nelson yung isa ;) ;)
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 25, 2010 at 01:36 AM
one pair yan sir
pag isa lang binigay sagot na ni nelson yung isa ;) ;)
Ang hirap palang maging host!...Pag may discrepancy, host ang mananagot! :P
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 25, 2010 at 06:51 AM
one pair yan sir
pag isa lang binigay sagot na ni nelson yung isa ;) ;)
Kahati ko si Sarhento. ;D ;D
Post by: macdon on Nov 25, 2010 at 08:39 AM
center speaker ata yung cyrstal na napanalunan ko, kaya 1pc lang hehehe salamat Marc!
Brader Francis - thats a stereo pair as confirmed from Marc of AVshop ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Nov 25, 2010 at 08:43 AM
one pair yan sir
pag isa lang binigay sagot na ni nelson yung isa ;) ;)
Ang hirap palang maging host!...Pag may discrepancy, host ang mananagot! :P
Kahati ko si Sarhento. ;D ;D
hahahahahahaha !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 25, 2010 at 10:12 AM
Ang hirap palang maging host!...Pag may discrepancy, host ang mananagot! :P
brader napakadaling maging host
ang mahirap yung mag patawa pag gwapo ka.........................................................
kaya ako di nahihirapan. O tingnan mo tumatawa ka habang binabasa mo ito pustahan tayo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 25, 2010 at 05:55 PM
para sa mga absent.....
see u next year! ;D ;D ;D
hirap ng absent. daming namiss!!!!
kelangan present na talga next year ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 25, 2010 at 06:37 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 25, 2010 at 07:02 PM
Parang amoy SACD and DVD audio dito sa bahay ni sir Mark... ;D
ha! si sir Mark going to the Darkside na din? eeheheh nag-EB lang nagka-hawaan na.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 25, 2010 at 07:06 PM
Parang amoy SACD and DVD audio dito sa bahay ni sir Mark... ;D
Bakit mo naisip yun? Meron ako a few SACD and DVD Audio but ... after some listening and research, iniisip ko baka placebo lang. If there is a clear audio improvement, investment ako sa kanya but I'm not convinced.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 25, 2010 at 07:11 PM
Bakit mo naisip yun? Meron ako a few SACD and DVD Audio but ... after some listening and research, iniisip ko baka placebo lang. If there is a clear audio improvement, investment ako sa kanya but I'm not convinced.
Based on sa post niyo sir sa ibang thread re emotiva. ;D Pero ako, i still prefer my pure audio in stereo. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 25, 2010 at 07:34 PM
Based on sa post niyo sir sa ibang thread re emotiva. ;D Pero ako, i still prefer my pure audio in stereo. ;D
brader the emotiva will be used as power amp to futher enhance the SQ of the HT set up and not for 2 channel Audio listening I believe. Im also leaning towards this direction but will only consider an XPA3. I think sir mark will get the 5 channel.
Try listening to a multichannel audio coded concert and you will hear the difference. Sound fidelity is really to be desired in 2 channel listening but a multi channel coded concert or audio is a diffrent animal all in all. I have heard concerts in DTS 96/24 formats and its really very good.
sir mark please correct me if im wrong.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 25, 2010 at 07:37 PM
brader the emotiva will be used as power amp to futher enhance the SQ of the HT set up and not for 2 channel Audio listening I believe. Im also leaning towards this direction but will only consider an XPA3. I think sir mark will get the 5 channel.
Try listening to a multichannel audio coded concert and you will hear the difference. Sound fidelity is really to be desired in 2 channel listening but a multi channel coded concert or audio is a diffrent animal all in all. I have heard concerts in DTS 96/24 formats and its really very good.
sir mark please correct me if im wrong.
Yup. May mga concerts din ako in 5.1. And you are perfectly right. It's a different story. I was implying to sir mark re SACD & DVD audio in multi channel configuration. ;D ;D
Post by: praktikal on Nov 25, 2010 at 09:31 PM
Yup. May mga concerts din ako in 5.1. And you are perfectly right. It's a different story. I was implying to sir mark re SACD & DVD audio in multi channel configuration. ;D ;D
interesting...
...pang next eb ::)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 26, 2010 at 08:42 AM
naku anchit nadala ko ata yung isang pares :D
Brader Francis - thats a stereo pair as confirmed from Marc of AVshop ;)
@streetsmart
i downloaded the pacquiao fight via website provided by mikec.
panalo yung copy, pero bakit sa PJ mo parang embossed yung boxers? ::) ::)
dahil ba yun sa maliit na gear mo for video calib or enhancement? ???
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2010 at 10:15 AM
Yup. May mga concerts din ako in 5.1. And you are perfectly right. It's a different story. I was implying to sir mark re SACD & DVD audio in multi channel configuration. ;D ;D
Ah ok. Actually, the Denon 4311 is supposed to be able to handle digital input of SACD. I haven't tried that yet. Try ko nga.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2010 at 10:22 AM
brader the emotiva will be used as power amp to futher enhance the SQ of the HT set up and not for 2 channel Audio listening I believe. Im also leaning towards this direction but will only consider an XPA3. I think sir mark will get the 5 channel.
Try listening to a multichannel audio coded concert and you will hear the difference. Sound fidelity is really to be desired in 2 channel listening but a multi channel coded concert or audio is a diffrent animal all in all. I have heard concerts in DTS 96/24 formats and its really very good.
sir mark please correct me if im wrong.
Yes, I will use the Emotiva for the HT. 5-channel sya. Binili ko mainly so that I use only external amps. I want the Denon 4311 to behave purely as a preamp/processor. Gusto ko maalaga ang AVR cuz I think I'm going to keep it for some time.
Also, the Emotiva is rated down to 4 ohms (which I need) and it's on sale. Mabuti na rin that I have excess power amps.
Insofar as SQ is concerned, I don't think there will be any improvement, even if I use pure external amps for 11 channels and 4 subs ... but maybe there will be a placebo effect! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2010 at 10:28 AM
@streetsmart
i downloaded the pacquiao fight via website provided by mikec.
panalo yung copy, pero bakit sa PJ mo parang embossed yung boxers? ::) ::)
dahil ba yun sa maliit na gear mo for video calib or enhancement? ???
Haha! That's an accumulation of a lot of things -- pj has very good built-in optics and has been calibrated through a spectrophotometer and state-of-the-art software, high-gain screen, further calibration through VideoEQ Pro and even further calibration through DVDO IScan VP50 Pro.
My simple gauge for video excellence is that the image must look 3D. The picture should have "pop". Right now, I think I've achieved that, provided the source is good. Fortunately, the Pacquiao fight is excellent quality.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 26, 2010 at 03:02 PM
Ah ok. Actually, the Denon 4311 is supposed to be able to handle digital input of SACD. I haven't tried that yet. Try ko nga.
Yes, I will use the Emotiva for the HT. 5-channel sya. Binili ko mainly so that I use only external amps. I want the Denon 4311 to behave purely as a preamp/processor. Gusto ko maalaga ang AVR cuz I think I'm going to keep it for some time.
Also, the Emotiva is rated down to 4 ohms (which I need) and it's on sale. Mabuti na rin that I have excess power amps.
Insofar as SQ is concerned, I don't think there will be any improvement, even if I use pure external amps for 11 channels and 4 subs ... but maybe there will be a placebo effect! ;D
There's a supposedly better SQ bacause of the 24bit data vs the 16bit dvd. Sir, updates kapag na-try niyo na ha. Thoough alam ko maganda ang SACD player niyo. The DAC of the SACD player along, maganda na.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2010 at 03:08 PM
There's a supposedly better SQ bacause of the 24bit data vs the 16bit dvd. Sir, updates kapag na-try niyo na ha. Thoough alam ko maganda ang SACD player niyo. The DAC of the SACD player along, maganda na.
What I meant was that I doubt if there will be improvement in SQ because of the change of power amp.
Kung sa SACD naman, in theory, 24 bit should be better than 16 bit ... but let's see.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 26, 2010 at 03:33 PM
What I meant was that I doubt if there will be improvement in SQ because of the change of power amp.
Kung sa SACD naman, in theory, 24 bit should be better than 16 bit ... but let's see.
Gets. ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 26, 2010 at 04:08 PM
Haha! That's an accumulation of a lot of things -- pj has very good built-in optics and has been calibrated through a spectrophotometer and state-of-the-art software, high-gain screen, further calibration through VideoEQ Pro and even further calibration through DVDO IScan VP50 Pro.maybe the screensize din ;D
My simple gauge for video excellence is that the image must look 3D. The picture should have "pop". Right now, I think I've achieved that, provided the source is good. Fortunately, the Pacquiao fight is excellent quality.
Post by: popejerico on Nov 26, 2010 at 04:21 PM
Haha! That's an accumulation of a lot of things -- pj has very good built-in optics and has been calibrated through a spectrophotometer and state-of-the-art software, high-gain screen, further calibration through VideoEQ Pro and even further calibration through DVDO IScan VP50 Pro.
My simple gauge for video excellence is that the image must look 3D. The picture should have "pop". Right now, I think I've achieved that, provided the source is good. Fortunately, the Pacquiao fight is excellent quality.
Sir, alam ko di tayo close at di nyo ko kilala man lang hahaha pero kung sa kaling naachieve nyo na yung desired picture quality nyo, at gusto nyo magtry naman magcalibrate ng ibang pj para lang mapagpractisan pa lalo yang mga calibration eqpuipment nyo (ng libre hahaha), ang aming tahanan ay bukas ano mang oras na inyong balakin. :-)
salamat po. hehe
Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2010 at 08:51 PM
There's a supposedly better SQ bacause of the 24bit data vs the 16bit dvd. Sir, updates kapag na-try niyo na ha. Thoough alam ko maganda ang SACD player niyo. The DAC of the SACD player along, maganda na.
Master Nelson,
DVDs can carry 24-bit audio (besides, sir Mark has tons of Blurays ata), SACD uses DSD encoding (Delta-Sigma modulated data). However, most receivers that do support DSD over HDMI still convert the data to PCM (because the hardware doesn't support DSD natively). It's more expensive to implement a DSD-native system din kasi, and is not to the best interest of buyers who'd be using the unit for movies mostly (since PCM might have to be converted to DSD, unless the system handles both).
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 27, 2010 at 09:38 AM
Makes me understand the difference between supported and native. Parang HD ready and full HD. :D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 20, 2010 at 07:18 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 20, 2010 at 07:31 AM
mahaba habang calibration pa ba bro streetsmart?
Post by: praktikal on Dec 20, 2010 at 12:18 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 12:40 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 20, 2010 at 12:49 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 01:36 PM
The 2 Ultras shook my room with deep but controlled bass. It wasn’t just SPL but bass below 20 Hz. In fact, the Ultras were tuned to 15 Hz. It’s really quite a unique experience to experience this type of bass because in normal life, wala namang dinosaurs or Hulk or ghost or alien so I guess you need to hear a cannon roar and that’s pretty rare. Being able to experience this in your own room, at will, is pretty cool.
I wasn’t really planning to get 2 Ultras but recently, one thing led to another and within 24 hours, I had the 2 Ultras in my HT (someone else got the third Ultra na nasa pic na kinuha ni Iiinas). I didn’t realize till yesterday that each Ultra weighs 155 pounds and I had to bring this up to the third floor. I had to use 5 people to do it.
I swapped my 2 x SVS PB12-NSD subs with the 2 Ultras (2 PB12's will be up for sale soon). This means that I now have 2 Ultras and 2 Paradigm Servo-15 v2 subs. The key was to match each Ultra with a Paradigm and then make sure that the Ultras were slightly louder than the Paradigms.
I calibrated the speakers with Audyssey MultEQ Pro and the charts showed that at 15 Hz, the subs were only 3 db down – that is exceptionally good. Next was the listening test and sure enough, I achieved the same bass shake as during last year’s SVS EB. It’s pretty incredible, especially with The Haunting.
Next time na lang ang pictures. Anyway … it’s black.
So that’s the story of my minor upgrade. Susunod ang story ng MAJOR MAJOR upgrade but I think that will require some pictures.
Post by: nogie on Dec 20, 2010 at 01:44 PM
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Post by: blackie on Dec 20, 2010 at 01:47 PM
Post by: gunblade977 on Dec 20, 2010 at 01:49 PM
Holy Moley.... :o :o :o :o :o :oI second that! :o :o :o
2 Ultras !!
Post by: praktikal on Dec 20, 2010 at 02:16 PM
I swapped my 2 x SVS PB12-NSD subs with the 2 Ultras (2 PB12's will be up for sale soon).
may kakilala akong interesado sa isa sir Mark ;)
love nyo talaga ang paradigms no?
Post by: nogie on Dec 20, 2010 at 02:25 PM
love nyo talaga ang paradigms no?
mahirap din kasi ibenta yan brader, dapat sobrang lakas na talaga ang powers mo para makabili ng digms ;) Kung tama narinig ko that's 150k apiece bukod sa iba pa rin performance sa music...
Post by: praktikal on Dec 20, 2010 at 02:27 PM
mahirap din kasi ibenta yan brader, dapat sobrang lakas na talaga ang powers mo para makabili ng digms ;) Kung tama narinig ko that's 150k apiece bukod sa iba pa rin performance sa music...tama pero curious ako sa dahilan ni sir Mark. :)
Post by: iiinas on Dec 20, 2010 at 02:32 PM
actually maganda ang storya kung baket biglang nagka ultra si sir mark. it would definitely be an icebreaker of a story... ;D
Post by: praktikal on Dec 20, 2010 at 02:43 PM
nice one sir mark! galing!
actually maganda ang storya kung baket biglang nagka ultra si sir mark. it would definitely be an icebreaker of a story... ;D
pabulong naman dyen... ;)
Post by: nogie on Dec 20, 2010 at 02:44 PM
nice one sir mark! galing!
actually maganda ang storya kung baket biglang nagka ultra si sir mark. it would definitely be an icebreaker of a story... ;D
eh ang story ng sa yo muna Kagawad ayns? Interesting din yong shifting from pb10 to pb12 plus. Congrats sir ayns! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:01 PM
tama pero curious ako sa dahilan ni sir Mark. :)
Tama si Nogie. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:02 PM
nice one sir mark! galing!
actually maganda ang storya kung baket biglang nagka ultra si sir mark. it would definitely be an icebreaker of a story... ;D
Kasama na yun sa story ng MAJOR MAJOR upgrade. ;D ;D
Post by: mike c on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:05 PM
cough quad cough
Post by: keema on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:17 PM
cheers
Christian
Post by: iiinas on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:23 PM
pabulong naman dyen... ;)
basta umoo si sir mark dito sa thread, kwento ko na! ;D
Kasama na yun sa story ng MAJOR MAJOR upgrade. ;D ;D
yun eh! hindi pa kasi tapos yung storya, imagine mo, yung ultras, minor minor lang. ano kaya yung major major na yan! ;D
eh ang story ng sa yo muna Kagawad ayns? Interesting din yong shifting from pb10 to pb12 plus. Congrats sir ayns! ;D
simple lang sa akin brader nogie, hindi dapat ako pumunta sa graceland, napainom ako nung tubig ni mike. langya!
but seriously, going there i got the chance to listen to a 10nsd, 12 nsd and pc12 plus (same config as the pb12 plus). and sitting there, listening to the same materials, just the subs being switched, there was really audible difference on how the bass sound, although we know that when a sub gets bigger, mas walang distortion since may ample power, bigger woofer, bigger box etc. pero first time ko kasi naka audi na nandun na yung mga subs. pag kina sir mark kasi, naka tono na yung subs, even if he change it but we go there in months interval (ako na nga pinaka laging mag bisita doon) and its really hard to discern anymore in sir mark's well tuned ht.
so sa graceland, listen, switch sub. listen ulit. magic! audible difference. and tingin ko pag bumili ako ng pb12, baka ma sars lang ako uli. so pb12 plus na. habang payag si mrs.
Post by: pchin on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:33 PM
I need to experience this phenomenon! :D
Post by: zekiber2 on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:34 PM
Post by: nogie on Dec 20, 2010 at 03:41 PM
simple lang sa akin brader nogie, hindi dapat ako pumunta sa graceland, napainom ako nung tubig ni mike. langya!
but seriously, going there i got the chance to listen to a 10nsd, 12 nsd and pc12 plus (same config as the pb12 plus). and sitting there, listening to the same materials, just the subs being switched, there was really audible difference on how the bass sound, although we know that when a sub gets bigger, mas walang distortion since may ample power, bigger woofer, bigger box etc. pero first time ko kasi naka audi na nandun na yung mga subs. pag kina sir mark kasi, naka tono na yung subs, even if he change it but we go there in months interval (ako na nga pinaka laging mag bisita doon) and its really hard to discern anymore in sir mark's well tuned ht.
so sa graceland, listen, switch sub. listen ulit. magic! audible difference. and tingin ko pag bumili ako ng pb12, baka ma sars lang ako uli. so pb12 plus na. habang payag si mrs.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 08:11 PM
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Post by: Weng! on Dec 20, 2010 at 08:14 PM
Post by: simonzaide on Dec 20, 2010 at 08:15 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 20, 2010 at 08:21 PM
anak ng kamote! tinuluyan mo din pala yan sir mark! balita ko isang milyon yan!
wooooooohooooooo! congrats!
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 20, 2010 at 08:22 PM
So that’s the story of my minor upgrade. Susunod ang story ng MAJOR MAJOR upgrade but I think that will require some pictures.
Ayan sir ang hinahantay ko. I totally agree sa major major upgrade na yan. Allow me if i would call it the upgrade of the decade. ;D I'm sure for keeps na yan sir. :D Congratulations sir. Mahirap nang palitan yan cuz mahirap tapatan. ;)
Post by: pchin on Dec 20, 2010 at 08:44 PM
Allow me if i would call it the upgrade of the decade. ;D
I agree Nelson. :) I'm looking forward to visit Mark's house & experience the super hi-end audio & the ultimate BOOM! :D
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:09 PM
Hirap gawin ang write-up for this MAJOR MAJOR upgrade. Meanwhile, a few photos:oh my gulay!!! :o :o focal electras! :o :o major major nga!!!
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kelan next eb sir mark? ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:27 PM
Individually, my main speakers are actually pretty good. In fact, the PSB Stratus Goldi had been among the very top recommended speakers of Stereophile for many years. The JBL XPL series of speakers has been very well-regarded and even now, they still command a pretty high price. However, the speakers are really a mish-mash of 4 different kinds. Ideally, speakers in a home theater are supposed to be exactly the same. The next best is that they should be of the same family, with the same drivers, etc.
I have always felt that any weaknesses of my speakers have been covered up by my excellent electronic room correction which, among other things, makes the different speakers have a similar timbre. In addition, I have 4 excellent subwoofers and I set the speaker crossovers at 80 Hz or higher so the subs do a lot of work. Nevertheless, electronic room correction can only do so much and theoretically, if you start off with excellent speakers which are the same or are of the same family, you can be certain that you would have much better sound.
It’s been kind of a dream for me to acquire a new set of high-end speakers, especially because my general rule has always been that the improvement should be obvious. The new speakers had to be much better than the previous. Ideally, I wanted audiophile-grade speakers with outstanding musicality and with a high sensitivity which would allow me to use them for home theater, which requires high SPL levels. This is not that easy to find. As an example, one of my favorite speaker brands has been Thiel but they are notoriously difficult to drive, you need huge amounts of amplifier power to drive them and so they really can’t be used for home theater.
Last month, I attended the Hifi Show at the Mandarin and I ended up staying a long time at the HT setup of AV Driver where I was astounded, not by the video but by the multi-channel audio. I had brought several Bluray concerts that I was very familiar with, including 2 operas. The speakers were the Focal Electra series, powered by the relatively puny internal amplifier of a Denon AVR – the A100 (140 watts per channel).
Firstly, they cranked up the volume to reference levels and given that the room was pretty large, it was very loud. Wala problema ang speakers and amp. Equally important, hindi nakakapagod ang tunog kahit malakas. Later, I found out that the speaker sensitivity is 93 db, which is very high and really easy to drive. Secondly, the sound quality was so good that napaiyak ang ibang nakiking – wala biro. Next, I found out that the only calibration done (because of lack of time) was to adjust speaker levels and of course, if it sounded that good without proper calibration, I wondered how it would sound with accurate calibration and proper room acoustic treatment?
After that experience, one thing led to another and last week, I found myself with a set of the same speakers (and actually a little better) in my HT. After calibration and listening tests, I decided to get 2 pairs of Focal Electra 1037 Be speakers for the Fronts and Wides (Audyssey DSX channels), an Electra CC 1008 BE speaker for the center and a pair of Electra 1007 S for the Height channels (7 speakers in total). I had originally intended to buy a complete set of 11 speakers but I decided to defer the purchase of the speakers for the Surround and Surround Back speakers because their contribution to the total audio experience is relatively small - let's say that largely because of the shape of our ears, we are more sensitive to sounds in front of us. Instead of those 2 pairs of speakers at the back, I decided to buy 2 x SVS PB13 Ultras. Much bigger improvement than those surround speakers! This also means that I still have room for future improvement!
How do the Focal Electras sound? My first shock was with stereo music. I’d prefer to dispense with the usual superlatives and just say that it sounds like magic. You feel like you have the performers right in front of you. There are no speakers. The sound is so life-like and the imaging uncannily accurate. The soundstage is huge. The only other time I’ve experienced a system this good (I guess there are others but I haven’t heard them) is with the setup of Alvinthx2 – high-end Elac speakers in an acoustically-treated room.
A bit more descriptions, based on multi-channel listening – the mid-bass is tighter, male vocals are thicker, soprano and high electric guitar notes are sweeter and easier to listen to. A huge thing in HT is panning (left to right, front to back, down to up). It sounds much more accurate, likely because all the 7 front channels are the same family. Finally, imaging is very precise.
Next, I confirmed that the speakers are easy to drive because after calibration with Audyssey Pro, the AVR trims were set much lower than my previous speakers.
Speakers with musicality, easy to drive and either the same or from the same family = excellent for HT. That’s the theory and I’ve confirmed that as well. Aside from the usual stuff like intelligibility of dialogue, the imaging, soundstage and panning are the best that I have heard.
So what next … It’s always a bit sad if there is nothing to look forward to. But I can always upgrade my surrounds and surround backs! 3D? Maybe new technology for the projector?
Meanwhile, I have a few other things left to do like fabricate and install a custom-made stand for the center channel and the brackets for the Height Speakers. Till that is done, it’s a waste of time to do a truly complete Audyssey Pro calibration. So there’s still some stuff to do!
Cheers to all and Merry X’mas!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:30 PM
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Post by: praktikal on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:33 PM
HANEP!!! 'ika nga ni Ruffa Mae; "Mga Friends, TODO NA 'TO! YEY!"
ang digm nagmukhang bunsoy na lang.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:34 PM
Ayan sir ang hinahantay ko. I totally agree sa major major upgrade na yan. Allow me if i would call it the upgrade of the decade. ;D I'm sure for keeps na yan sir. :D Congratulations sir. Mahirap nang palitan yan cuz mahirap tapatan. ;)
Nelson, wag mo naman sabihin yan. D tama yan. There will always be something which can be improved, no matter how small. Doesn't need to be "Major Major"! ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:42 PM
oh my gulay!!! :o :o focal electras! :o :o major major nga!!!
kelan next eb sir mark? ;D
Hi tokayo! My last major major upgrade was 3 years ago. Siguro nga another 3 years before the next!
Txt na lang tayo tungkol sa EB. :)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:48 PM
sa size ng HT nyo sir, talagang maraming upgrade ang pwedeng maisip.
talagang Merry ang Christmas n'yo. ;)
Post by: frootloops on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:51 PM
Post by: iiinas on Dec 20, 2010 at 09:56 PM
Post by: macdon on Dec 20, 2010 at 10:08 PM
naku, lumabas na yung mga focals! :D
Oo nga :D
Congrats on the Focals as well as the 2 Ultras, Mark! ;)
Post by: pchin on Dec 20, 2010 at 10:23 PM
Mark has two pairs pa + the Center! :o :o :o
I'm sure Mark's HT deserves the best HT award in the Philippines. ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 20, 2010 at 10:31 PM
Post by: ricky on Dec 20, 2010 at 10:46 PM
Post by: gaol on Dec 20, 2010 at 11:02 PM
Congratulations din kay brader iinas and macdon! Kakaiba talaga ang kamandag ng graceland! hehe :D :D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 20, 2010 at 11:33 PM
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 21, 2010 at 12:23 AM
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Dec 21, 2010 at 05:06 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:24 AM
Some additional observations about these speakers:
The build and finish of the speakers reminds me of high-end Italian furniture or a luxury car ala BMW. The design, the piano finish and even the binding posts are all high-end. In fact, I could say that the performance of the Focal Electras as compared to the PSB Stratus Goldi is like a BMW vs. a Camry. Ibang level.
The floorstanders weigh 115 pounds each - mabigat talaga. The feet are strongly built and have rubber soles so they are very stable.
Even the bookshelves are surprisingly heavy and pretty large. They are 30 pounds each, while my current PSB bookshelves are half that. I've listened only a bit to the bookshelves, just to test them, because I still need to build the brackets to mount them as the High Speakers. Designing the brackets will be a challenge.
The center weighs "only" 42 pounds and looks surprisingly small but it produces a big sound and is perfectly matched to the fronts.
After we carried the SVS Ultras, we moved the SVS PB12-NSD subs. Parang napakagaan ng PB12. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:32 AM
Wowowee Mark, hindi lang eto major major upgrade, kundi general general upgrade na!
Actually, I was looking at my setup last night and I realized how much had changed in this year.
I went from 7 speakers to 11.
I changed all speakers, except for the 2 Paradigm subs.
I upgraded the pj.
I changed the AVR twice.
I really don't think I will make a major upgrade for some time ... except if there is some new outstanding technology for projectors or AVR's. ;D ;D Speakers, however, are pretty stable and I think I will just tweak what I have.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:36 AM
Sabi mo sir Mark last week, one pair lang. Bakit ang dami ng pairs niyan?!!! :o
Similar to what Iiinas did when he upgraded from SVS PB10 to PB12 Plus (skipping the PB12-NSD). Para tapos na. ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:37 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:37 AM
Siguro with the speaker upgrade I might be able to distinguish HD audio already from your setup. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Doc ... you have a priceless talent to distinguish lossless and lossy audio! Perfect ang score mo! I'm sure it will stay that way. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:38 AM
That's a GOLD investment you got there Sir, I'm speechless when I saw the pics. If I'm not mistaken thats 7pcs of highend JM LABS & 2 ULTRAs. Great system :o Even though I'll never have the chance to listen to your system but I'm sure the SQ & PQ in that room is AWESOME! ;)
Send me a PM when you are in Manila para makadaan ka. Ginawa rin yun dati ni Docelmo.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:40 AM
Sir Mark I hope you have reached your audio nirvana...(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
Natitira na lang ang PSB bookshelves ko na surrounds and surround backs. Some day, I will change those to Focals. Next year siguro. E malapit na next year ... ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 06:51 AM
the speakers are not only built like a tank but it is built elegantly, the woofer's texture is smooth and looks like marble! :o :o :o
the berilium (tama ba) tweeters though small perform its duties perfectly and admirably. hanep. when i heard it playing music, the separation and details is definitely unbelievable. gleng! for $11k a pair! :o :o :o
sayang wala pa yung ultras nung narinig namin ni kagawad mac. siguro the haunting would sound unbelievable na!
Post by: gaol on Dec 21, 2010 at 07:14 AM
Actually, I was looking at my setup last night and I realized how much had changed in this year.
I went from 7 speakers to 11.
I changed all speakers, except for the 2 Paradigm subs.
I upgraded the pj.
I changed the AVR twice.
I really don't think I will make a major upgrade for some time ... except if there is some new outstanding technology for projectors or AVR's. ;D ;D Speakers, however, are pretty stable and I think I will just tweak what I have.
I think your path to nirvana is set: focal surround speakers. Then wait for developments in 3D technology. Or maybe tweak improvements in aesthetics if you care hehe, speaking of, I find the top tier Sonus Faber line of speakers very very beautiful. ;) ;) ;) ;D ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Dec 21, 2010 at 07:31 AM
Sir Mark I hope you have reached your audio nirvana...(http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
Never realize I could hear audio nirvana in my life...not even in my dream... ;D
Now Mark's HT is truly a video/audio paradise! :D Does anyone has any contact with the media? Perhaps should invite the media to do another special HT coverage for Mark! ;)
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 21, 2010 at 07:32 AM
Actually, I was looking at my setup last night and I realized how much had changed in this year.
I went from 7 speakers to 11.
I changed all speakers, except for the 2 Paradigm subs.
I upgraded the pj.
I changed the AVR twice.
I really don't think I will make a major upgrade for some time ... except if there is some new outstanding technology for projectors or AVR's. ;D ;D Speakers, however, are pretty stable and I think I will just tweak what I have.
grabe!
MAJOR MAJOR HT YEAR for Mark!
Congrats! Congrats! Congrats !!!!
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Dec 21, 2010 at 07:35 AM
Send me a PM when you are in Manila para makadaan ka. Ginawa rin yun dati ni Docelmo.Thanks very much, It would be a pleasure :) Maybe some future PDVD Yuletide gathering again that will be held again in your place Sir Mark, I will surely cross out the calendar date for it ;D
Awesome! :o
Post by: juanch on Dec 21, 2010 at 08:05 AM
Oh My Gally! Beautiful looking speakers, I heard those in the Hi-Fi show too.
Ibang level talaga.
Congratulations sir Mark :)
Post by: Stagea on Dec 21, 2010 at 08:53 AM
Matagal ko na silang pinapakinggan pero di nabibili. Baka nagsasawa na sakin ang AVDI. Wahahaha. ;D Sigurado super ganda lalo yang system mo ngayon. :)
Post by: mandyb on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:16 AM
Congratulations on the new speakers, very very brilliant. I can only shake my head with jaws dropped.. (hopefully one day i could sign a check for a delivery like that even in dreams) :D
im sure you are enjoying the holiday season and very much also being merry, enjoy more and have a good one. ;D
Cheers!
Post by: ricky on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:31 AM
Post by: dindop on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:40 AM
sarap siguro makinig jan sir Mark :)
congrats!
still drooling....
Post by: zedric on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:48 AM
Actually, I was looking at my setup last night and I realized how much had changed in this year.
I went from 7 speakers to 11.
I changed all speakers, except for the 2 Paradigm subs.
I upgraded the pj.
I changed the AVR twice.
I really don't think I will make a major upgrade for some time ... except if there is some new outstanding technology for projectors or AVR's. ;D ;D Speakers, however, are pretty stable and I think I will just tweak what I have.
WOW!!! :o :o :o
What a way to end the year of upgrade!
add ko din, you changed your sub twice!
Congratulations sir Mark!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:53 AM
WOW!!! :o :o :o
What a way to end the year of upgrade!
add ko din, you changed your sub twice!
Congratulations sir Mark!!!
Hi Zherwin! Tama ka. Changed the subs twice din pala. ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:54 AM
Master Mark just in case gusto mo mag upgrade ng interiors, maybe I can offer you motorized theatre recliners with lighted cup holders and optional table. Ultimate seats for the ultimate theatre ;) Pwede na 5seats x 4 rows, give kita special special price basta lagi lang kami kasama sa plugging ng theatre mo :D
woooohooooo! meron pala nun!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:54 AM
Thanks very much, It would be a pleasure :) Maybe some future PDVD Yuletide gathering again that will be held again in your place Sir Mark, I will surely cross out the calendar date for it ;D
Awesome! :o
Sige, para may Visayan contingent din tayo sa X'mas EB. :) :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:55 AM
Master Mark just in case gusto mo mag upgrade ng interiors, maybe I can offer you motorized theatre recliners with lighted cup holders and optional table. Ultimate seats for the ultimate theatre ;) Pwede na 5seats x 4 rows, give kita special special price basta lagi lang kami kasama sa plugging ng theatre mo :D
E paano kung 40 Pinoydvd members ang bisita? Di ba problema yun?
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:58 AM
E paano kung 40 Pinoydvd members ang bisita? Di ba problema yun?
kasya sir mark! gustong gusto nila yang kandong lalo na kung educational videos na!
wooooooohooooooo!
Post by: mike c on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:59 AM
kasya sir mark! gustong gusto nila yang kandong lalo na kung educational videos na!
wooooooohooooooo!
saan ka? sa ibabaw or sa ibaba? :-*
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:00 AM
kasya sir mark! gustong gusto nila yang kandong lalo na kung educational videos na!
wooooooohooooooo!
Meron sana akong ipopopost pero wag na lang. ;D ;D
Mali yata ang sinasabi mo, Jake! Kakadiri. ;D ;D
Post by: ricky on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:02 AM
E paano kung 40 Pinoydvd members ang bisita? Di ba problema yun?
Kandungan na lang ;D Pag pinoydvd visitors pwede na kami sa gilid lang or sa sahig parang dati nun showing yung titanic nagtiyaga tao sa sahig basta makapaok lang sa loob.
kasya sir mark! gustong gusto nila yang kandong lalo na kung educational videos na!
wooooooohooooooo!
Pare hindi ko akalain :o :o :o, Master Mark sa sahig na lang talaga ako next time ;D ;D ;D
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:03 AM
Natitira na lang ang PSB bookshelves ko na surrounds and surround backs. Some day, I will change those to Focals. Next year siguro. E malapit na next year ... ;D ;D
ang tanong kung tag-araw o tag-ulan? pero teka... sira na pala ang panahon, di na natin alam kung kelan uulan o aaraw. ??? ::) :o
malakas ang kutob ko dahil sa ganda ng synergy ng 7, naglalaro na isip nyo kung ano kaya kung makumpleto na ang buong pamilya. para kayong tatay na hahanap-hanapin ang nawawalang mga anak. di makatulog, di mapakali, di makaligo, di masaya... "mga anak, halika na kayo at tayo ng mag Rosario..."
nasaan na ba ang mga taga GMA-7??? paging P-Noy, may namimiss ka sa may dakong Leon Ginto... andun ang minahan ng Ginto -- Ginintuang HT Setup!
:o
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Meron sana akong ipopopost pero wag na lang. ;D ;D
tama! wag na lang! ;D
Post by: ricky on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:07 AM
ahahahaha!
tama! wag na lang! ;D
Totoo pa lang yung kasabihan lately, hindi lahat ng gwapo ay lalaki. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:12 AM
Kandungan na lang ;D Pag pinoydvd visitors pwede na kami sa gilid lang or sa sahig parang dati nun showing yung titanic nagtiyaga tao sa sahig basta makapaok lang sa loob.
Sige, padalhan mo ako PM ng design mo. May duda lang talaga ako that it will occupy too much space.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:14 AM
nag-pm ka na ba kay mark? ;D ;D ;D
ako kasi hindi pa.... nahihiya... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM
JAKE!
nag-pm ka na ba kay mark? ;D ;D ;D
ako kasi hindi pa.... nahihiya... ;D ;D ;D
asus!
bilisan na at may isa pa! dont be shy, sayang! ;D
kelangan mo abugado?
Post by: ricky on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:18 AM
Sige, padalhan mo ako PM ng design mo. May duda lang talaga ako that it will occupy too much space.
Master Mark bakit Pm pa, punta ako personal para pati yung choice of fabric and leather ay mapakita ko. After the holidays pa set ako master ng appointment syo, kasi Im sure busy ka ngayon dami gagawin at hahabulin mo pa na makuha yung side and rear surrounds before the year ends ;) :D Ganda ng speakers mo talaga ;) ;) ;) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:19 AM
JAKE!
nag-pm ka na ba kay mark? ;D ;D ;D
ako kasi hindi pa.... nahihiya... ;D ;D ;D
hindi na kailangan nun! kasi wala namang dapat i-PM. ikaw ata meron! ahahaha!
asus!
bilisan na at may isa pa! dont be shy, sayang! ;D
kelangan mo abugado?
ayun oh!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM
asus!
bilisan na at may isa pa! dont be shy, sayang! ;D
kelangan mo abugado?
atorni iiinas....
pm for u........................ ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:36 AM
Congrats on the upgrade!!! 8) I haven't fully recovered yet from my last experience at The Dream Theater and yet here's another attraction to look forward to! 8) 8) 8)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:41 AM
atorni iiinas....
pm for u........................ ;D ;D ;D
ayun oh!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:45 AM
Sir Mark,
Congrats on the upgrade!!! 8) I haven't fully recovered yet from my last experience at The Dream Theater and yet here's another attraction to look forward to! 8) 8) 8)
Hi Jojo! I'm sure you'll appreciate the new setup cuz of its amazing stereo capability. :)
I think I'm getting close to what I've long wanted to achieve -- a reference audiophile and home theater system in one.
Kapag libre ka, set tayo ng date for listening (and drinking) session. ;D
Post by: praktikal on Dec 21, 2010 at 10:50 AM
IMO, it's about time you change your title. Dream Come True na ito maliban kung natutulog pa rin kayo... ;D ;)
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 21, 2010 at 11:15 AM
Hi Jojo! I'm sure you'll appreciate the new setup cuz of its amazing stereo capability. :)
I think I'm getting close to what I've long wanted to achieve -- a reference audiophile and home theater system in one.
Kapag libre ka, set tayo ng date for listening (and drinking) session. ;D
The last time I was there, I was "enveloped"... I'm afraid the next listening experience, I might be "engulfed"! :)
Your Bluray concerts will have a renewed playback experience with the new upgrades. You sure know how to dream while awake sir Mark! ;) :o
If there's a listening (and drinking of course ;D) session planned by early next year please do count me in sir, I'd love to listen and experience the new Focals. :)
Post by: Moks007 on Dec 21, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Post by: alvinh on Dec 21, 2010 at 01:22 PM
Tama ka...Major Major talaga!
Pasko na nga! :D
Happy Holidays to everyone! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 01:49 PM
Chief Mark - As always it would be an understatement to even call your home theater hideout, a dream...I was already overly inspired by your previous set...and now, I can't even think of a deserving word to describe the feeling! :D ;D ;D Congrats Chief!
Tama ka...Major Major talaga!
Pasko na nga! :D
Happy Holidays to everyone! ;D
Hi Alvin! Musta bagong pj mo? Kinabit mo na?
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:06 PM
Sir Mark, congrats. You are truly our Jedi Master ;D. Really really awesome. I am very proud and happy to always get a chance to experience your home theater gears, which imo is one of the best in the whole country. ;).. Per visit, it's like a new high ;D for me all the time. Its like cloud 9 ;) ;D
+1 sir raymond, if not for sir mark, i wont be able to experience hi-end stuff like we see and read on magazines and trade shows. thanks goodness im just a couple of blocks away... ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:08 PM
+1 sir raymond, if not for sir mark, i wont be able to experience hi-end stuff like we see and read on magazines and trade shows. thanks goodness im just a couple of blocks away... ;D
And yet, di mo ako tinulungan magbuhat ng dalawang Ultra sa HT ko ... tsk tsk. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:10 PM
And yet, di mo ako tinulungan magbuhat ng dalawang Ultra sa HT ko ... tsk tsk. ;D ;D ;D
hwehehe. tumawag ako sir... may proof ako sa phone call log ko. naka record yun. sabi mo, ok ka na...
ako pa sir mark. lab u! :-*
Post by: macdon on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:12 PM
And yet, di mo ako tinulungan magbuhat ng dalawang Ultra sa HT ko ... tsk tsk. ;D ;D ;D
Pagbigyan mo na........kaya nga nasugat eh :D :D :D Lab u kagawad! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:13 PM
Pagbigyan mo na........kaya nga nasugat eh :D :D :D Lab u kagawad! ;D
;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:14 PM
Pagbigyan mo na........kaya nga nasugat eh :D :D :D Lab u kagawad! ;D
Tama nga naman. Wounded by a subwoofer! ;D
Post by: macdon on Dec 21, 2010 at 02:25 PM
Tama nga naman. Wounded by a subwoofer! ;D
Ikaw naman daw ang tutulong sa kanya pag dating ng 2nd na pb12+ :D :D
Post by: JoeyGS on Dec 21, 2010 at 03:30 PM
I would like to invite myself sana on your next session....siguro pag kasama na kina JojoD. Would like to hear concerts in your setup...para ma complete na ang digital kulam for us analog audiofools ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I already have been mesmerized by the PQ of your set-up and now its time to listen to the speakers.
Enjoy :) :) :) :)
Hi Jojo! I'm sure you'll appreciate the new setup cuz of its amazing stereo capability. :)
I think I'm getting close to what I've long wanted to achieve -- a reference audiophile and home theater system in one.
Kapag libre ka, set tayo ng date for listening (and drinking) session. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 03:48 PM
Wow congrats sir Mark. I am familiar with those beryllium tweeters and they are soooooo sweeeet and non-fatiguing.
I would like to invite myself sana on your next session....siguro pag kasama na kina JojoD. Would like to hear concerts in your setup...para ma complete na ang digital kulam for us analog audiofools ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I already have been mesmerized by the PQ of your set-up and now its time to listen to the speakers.
Enjoy :) :) :) :)
Sure! Kaw na kaya mag-organize with the analog guys? PM lang tayo to coordinate.
I could even show you how I can tweak the target EQ curve, using Audyssey Pro. Marami kang magagawa with digital. Pakita ko rin effect of Audyssey correction on frequency response, ringing, RTA, etc., using XTZ room analyzer system. I think you guys will appreciate that technology.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 21, 2010 at 03:50 PM
2 x SVS PB12-NSD subwoofers to 2 Pinoydvd members.
Post by: macdon on Dec 21, 2010 at 03:52 PM
Sold!!
2 x SVS PB12-NSD subwoofers to 2 Pinoydvd members.
Huwaw! :o Hindi man umabot sa marketplace ah ;D
Congrats to both Jake & Jim!!! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 03:55 PM
Sold!!
2 x SVS PB12-NSD subwoofers to 2 Pinoydvd members.
hmmm...
mga taga lagoon ba mga yan?!? or isang tiga lagoon at isang tiga paranaque?!? ;D
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Dec 21, 2010 at 03:57 PM
Sige, para may Visayan contingent din tayo sa X'mas EB. :) :)ok sir mark para may bisaya sa group :D
Post by: JoeyGS on Dec 21, 2010 at 04:03 PM
Sure! Kaw na kaya mag-organize with the analog guys? PM lang tayo to coordinate.
I could even show you how I can tweak the target EQ curve, using Audyssey Pro. Marami kang magagawa with digital. Pakita ko rin effect of Audyssey correction on frequency response, ringing, RTA, etc., using XTZ room analyzer system. I think you guys will appreciate that technology.
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Dec 21, 2010 at 04:07 PM
Whoa I saw the SRP for Focal Electra 1037 Be at US$10,995 (that's close to 500k peso per pair) :o :oThese are more expensive than a 7.1 set of REVEL SALON ;)
Mark has two pairs pa + the Center! :o :o :o
I'm sure Mark's HT deserves the best HT award in the Philippines. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 21, 2010 at 04:16 PM
Sold!!
2 x SVS PB12-NSD subwoofers to 2 Pinoydvd members.
Huwaw! :o Hindi man umabot sa marketplace ah ;D
Congrats to both Jake & Jim!!! ;D
huh!???! nabenta na kay Jake at Jim??? congrats Jake at Jim!!!
Post by: iiinas on Dec 21, 2010 at 04:35 PM
huh!???! nabenta na kay Jake at Jim??? congrats Jake at Jim!!!
bwahaha! yan ang gusto ko, hindi denial kings!
amin kaagad! congrats sa mga taga lagoon! ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:26 PM
huh!???! nabenta na kay Jake at Jim??? congrats Jake at Jim!!!
huh? gulat din ako!
CONGRATS Jake & Jim !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 21, 2010 at 09:46 PM
;D
see yah tomorrow morning sir mark ;)
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:16 AM
Post by: gaol on Dec 22, 2010 at 06:41 AM
Post by: blackie on Dec 22, 2010 at 06:43 AM
Sold!!
2 x SVS PB12-NSD subwoofers to 2 Pinoydvd members.
Shpeeedeh!
Congrats Dyek and Dyim ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Brian_mico on Dec 22, 2010 at 07:02 AM
Sure! Kaw na kaya mag-organize with the analog guys? PM lang tayo to coordinate.
I could even show you how I can tweak the target EQ curve, using Audyssey Pro. Marami kang magagawa with digital. Pakita ko rin effect of Audyssey correction on frequency response, ringing, RTA, etc., using XTZ room analyzer system. I think you guys will appreciate that technology.
I never seen and heard sir Mark's set-up... but this time if there's another EB... can I invite my self :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 07:06 AM
I never seen and heard sir Mark's set-up... but this time if there's another EB... can I invite my self :D
Sama ka na sa inaayos na EB ng mga analog boys. Please coordinate with JoeyGS.
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 22, 2010 at 07:56 AM
I never seen and heard sir Mark's set-up... but this time if there's another EB... can I invite my self :D
Brader, make the time... it's really well worth it! ;) ;) ;)
But beware of the HT bug, it's inevitable! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Dec 22, 2010 at 08:18 AM
Brader, make the time... it's really well worth it! ;) ;) ;)
But beware of the HT bug, it's inevitable! ;D ;D ;D
An ITCH that i can't bear!! 8) 8) 8)
Post by: zerukul on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:39 AM
Sold!!
2 x SVS PB12-NSD subwoofers to 2 Pinoydvd members.
Wow! Ang bilis naman! Congrats sa new owners! :D Ang daming ngbebenta ng SVS ngaun season ah, marami din bumili...
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:44 AM
Hirap gawin ang write-up for this MAJOR MAJOR upgrade. Meanwhile, a few photos:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0176.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0177.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0187.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0181.jpg)
tinititigan ko pa rin etong mga pictures!
grabe!
a very major major upgrade indeed!!!
a very very happy merry happy christmas for sir mark !!!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:45 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:46 AM
tinititigan ko pa rin etong mga pictures!
grabe!
a very major major upgrade indeed!!!
a very very happy merry happy christmas for sir mark !!!
teka teka, eye catcher definitely yung speaks ni sir mark pero what caught my attention eh yung sig mo brader jim
ITS SVS OR NOTHING woooooohooooooooo
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:12 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0191.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0192.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM
But full reality is not so simple. ;D ;D
Post by: zerukul on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:16 AM
Hirap gawin ang write-up for this MAJOR MAJOR upgrade. Meanwhile, a few photos:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0176.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0177.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0187.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0181.jpg)
Grabe, ang ganda2 naman ng mga speakers na ito! congrats! :D Ibang level na ito! Hehehe :D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:18 AM
By the way, kinuha na ang isang PB12-NSD and it wasn't Dyim or Dyake. Kasama pa nya ang magandang gf nya. ;D ;D ;D
But full reality is not so simple. ;D ;D
sinasabi ko na nga ba eh yung mamang yun malupit humakot ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM
Tapos na ang stand for the center speaker. Gawa lang namin sa bahay. Very stable and tweeter is same height as floorstanders -- about ear height.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0191.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0192.jpg)
ang ganda sir mark ;)
Post by: alvinh on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:27 AM
Tapos na ang stand for the center speaker. Gawa lang namin sa bahay. Very stable and tweeter is same height as floorstanders -- about ear height.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0191.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0192.jpg)
Ganda Chief Mark! Original and one of a kind... ;D ;D ;D
Sure! Kaw na kaya mag-organize with the analog guys? PM lang tayo to coordinate.
I could even show you how I can tweak the target EQ curve, using Audyssey Pro. Marami kang magagawa with digital. Pakita ko rin effect of Audyssey correction on frequency response, ringing, RTA, etc., using XTZ room analyzer system. I think you guys will appreciate that technology.
Wow congrats sir Mark. I am familiar with those beryllium tweeters and they are soooooo sweeeet and non-fatiguing.
I would like to invite myself sana on your next session....siguro pag kasama na kina JojoD. Would like to hear concerts in your setup...para ma complete na ang digital kulam for us analog audiofools ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
I already have been mesmerized by the PQ of your set-up and now its time to listen to the speakers.
Enjoy :) :) :) :)
Aba e, isang van na ang pupunta from the boondoks of St Rose...neybors, kahit sa luggage rack nalang ako sasabit. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: alvinh on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:29 AM
Hi Alvin! Musta bagong pj mo? Kinabit mo na?
Naka-mount na sa ceiling Chief...screen na lang ang hinihintay. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Dec 22, 2010 at 02:49 PM
Bagay na bagay new Subs & focals sa HT mo :o
Congrats!
Post by: yygoob on Dec 22, 2010 at 03:01 PM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 22, 2010 at 03:53 PM
teka teka, eye catcher definitely yung speaks ni sir mark pero what caught my attention eh yung sig mo brader jim
ITS SVS OR NOTHING woooooohooooooooo
hahahahaha !!! ;D ;D ;D
Tapos na ang stand for the center speaker. Gawa lang namin sa bahay. Very stable and tweeter is same height as floorstanders -- about ear height.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0191.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0192.jpg)
sweet upgrades !!!
ganda nilang titigan !!! lalo na cguro pakinggan! :D
Post by: iiinas on Dec 22, 2010 at 04:03 PM
Tapos na ang stand for the center speaker. Gawa lang namin sa bahay. Very stable and tweeter is same height as floorstanders -- about ear height.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0191.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0192.jpg)
ayos. buti nalang may sariling workshop dyan sa bahay mo sir mark. hehehe.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 04:24 PM
ayos. buti nalang may sariling workshop dyan sa bahay mo sir mark. hehehe.
kaya naman pala ang gaganda ng patungan eh ;) ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 04:50 PM
ayos. buti nalang may sariling workshop dyan sa bahay mo sir mark. hehehe.
Yup. Complete, pati welding machine! Si Gigi ang contractor. ;D ;D
Next na ginagawa ay ang brackets.
Post by: iiinas on Dec 22, 2010 at 04:55 PM
Yup. Complete, pati welding machine! Si Gigi ang contractor. ;D ;D
Next na ginagawa ay ang brackets.
that will be some bracket! sa bigat ng bs ng focals. :o
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:09 PM
that will be some bracket! sa bigat ng bs ng focals. :o
ang hirap magkabit ng heights sir mark pero di bale..................................................
lapit lang naman si kagawad ayns pwedeng pwedeng mag patulong ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:16 PM
ang hirap magkabit ng heights sir mark pero di bale..................................................
lapit lang naman si kagawad ayns pwedeng pwedeng mag patulong ;D ;D ;D
Wag na lang. Baka ma-frustrate lang ako. Nagpatulong kasi ako dati sa Ultras pero inintindi nya lang sariling PB12+ nya. Mabuti na rin naman kasi medyo clumsy yata sya or mahina ang buto kaya nahulog sa toes nya ang PB12+. E biro mo kung ang Ultra ang nahulog sa toes nya, baka natuluyan pa sya. Kawawa naman ang Ultra ko! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:19 PM
Wag na lang. Baka ma-frustrate lang ako. Nagpatulong kasi ako dati sa Ultras pero inintindi nya lang sariling PB12+ nya. Mabuti na rin naman kasi medyo clumsy yata sya or mahina ang buto kaya nahulog sa toes nya ang PB12+. E biro mo kung ang Ultra ang nahulog sa toes nya, baka natuluyan pa sya. Kawawa naman ang Ultra ko! ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ibig palang sabihin sir mark kung nag kataon, magiging dalawang memorable experience ni kagawad dyan sa inyo, nung nakaraan nag pahinga sandali habang nag sasaya tayong lahat, nung lumabas sa pahingahan tapos na tayo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
tapos kung tumulong pala sa ultra eh baka namatayan naman ng kuko sa paa tapos nabungi ang kahon ng ultra ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:24 PM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
ibig palang sabihin sir mark kung nag kataon, magiging dalawang memorable experience ni kagawad dyan sa inyo, nung nakaraan nag pahinga sandali habang nag sasaya tayong lahat, nung lumabas sa pahingahan tapos na tayo ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
tapos kung tumulong pala sa ultra eh baka namatayan naman ng kuko sa paa tapos nabungi ang kahon ng ultra ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Exactly! D na bale toes ni kagawad kasi nagagamot yun. Paano naman ang kahon ng Ultra? ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:26 PM
Exactly! D na bale toes ni kagawad kasi nagagamot yun. Paano naman ang kahon ng Ultra? ;D ;D
agree ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
baka magkagasgas din ang kinis pa naman ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:39 PM
sir mark, sorry ha... pero... parang hindi pang... ah eh... parang may mali eh...
brader jim, parang kailangan nating mag operation magbabakal ulit! napansin mo ba??? ::)
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:45 PM
btw mark nice upgrade, di ko akalain na may pwede pa improve yung dati nyong setup.
i would give it 25-30% additional points. after hearing it earlier, i now have a new standard for perfect :)
2nd best would be your former setup ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:51 PM
Warning: Images On Screen May Be Smaller Than They Appear!!
;D :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:52 PM
sir mark, sorry ha... pero... parang hindi pang... ah eh... parang may mali eh...
brader jim, parang kailangan nating mag operation magbabakal ulit! napansin mo ba??? ::)
Naku, pinaisip mo ako. D bale, pag bisita mo bukas ng umaga, ituro mo sa akin ang defect. Dadala ka ba ng pan de sal at longganisa bukas umaga? Baka d pa ako nakapaligo nun, sori na lang ha. ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:55 PM
Naku, pinaisip mo ako. D bale, pag bisita mo bukas ng umaga, ituro mo sa akin ang defect. Dadala ka ba ng pan de sal at longganisa bukas umaga? Baka d pa ako nakapaligo nun, sori na lang ha. ;D ;D
sayo na ang pandesal! akin na ang sardinas! ;D
teka ano ba meron bukas? ahahaha!
sige bukas ko na sabihin... meanwhile, palaisipan mo yan tonight!
btw, ok lang na DGG baka pareho lang tayo! ahahaha!
Post by: iiinas on Dec 22, 2010 at 05:56 PM
Naku, pinaisip mo ako. D bale, pag bisita mo bukas ng umaga, ituro mo sa akin ang defect. Dadala ka ba ng pan de sal at longganisa bukas umaga? Baka d pa ako nakapaligo nun, sori na lang ha. ;D ;D
naku, padali mo nga kina sir triple at sir jake yan. siguradong hindi ka magsisisi, basta bakal!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 22, 2010 at 06:34 PM
sa totoo lang wala namang defect... pero parang ano lang... ano nga... yung ano ba... basta bukas!
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 22, 2010 at 06:37 PM
eb ba ito? bro mark sayo ako galing bukas ha ;D ;D
sa totoo lang wala namang defect... pero parang ano lang... ano nga... yung ano ba... basta bukas!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 22, 2010 at 06:48 PM
eb ba ito? bro mark sayo ako galing bukas ha ;D ;D
dadaan lang ako bro para madinig ang focals... bago man lang magpasko eh makadinig ng mga anghel na kumakanta! ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 22, 2010 at 06:53 PM
dadaan lang ako bro para madinig ang focals... bago man lang magpasko eh makadinig ng mga anghel na kumakanta! ;)kung wala kang appointment that day malamang di ka na makaalis bro :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 22, 2010 at 07:32 PM
sayo na ang pandesal! akin na ang sardinas! ;D
Jake, kinahon ko na ang sardinas mo. Ang laki at bigat at itim pa naman. Hope you like them! ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 22, 2010 at 07:38 PM
wooohoooo! sir mark, 6am aalis na ako dito para mga 7am pa lang andiyan na ako! sigurado mainit pa ang pandesal! woooooohooooooo!!!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:09 PM
sir mark, sorry ha... pero... parang hindi pang... ah eh... parang may mali eh...
brader jim, parang kailangan nating mag operation magbabakal ulit! napansin mo ba??? ::)
hmmmmm....
cge, pagusapan nyo bukas ng 630am yan...... ;D
wooohoooo! sir mark, 6am aalis na ako dito para mga 7am pa lang andiyan na ako! sigurado mainit pa ang pandesal! woooooohooooooo!!!
nakow!
hataw na naman si monty nyan !!!
Post by: deo on Dec 22, 2010 at 09:13 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:02 PM
wooohoooo! sir mark, 6am aalis na ako dito para mga 7am pa lang andiyan na ako! sigurado mainit pa ang pandesal! woooooohooooooo!!!
the early bird catches the early sardines ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 22, 2010 at 10:29 PM
Phew can't stop drooling. :-*
you want a towel sir paul ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2010 at 05:45 AM
the early bird catches the early sardines ;D ;D ;D ;D
Naku, maligo na nga ako kasi baka dumating na delivery boy na magdadala ng pandesal, kapalit ay isang kahon ng itim na sardinas.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2010 at 06:19 AM
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Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:12 AM
wooohooooo!!!!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:19 AM
wooohooooo congrats di na yata natulog kaya pati si sri mark puyat din hahahahahahahaha
Post by: pchin on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:38 AM
you want a towel sir paul ;D ;D ;D
I need "the floor towel" to be effective in stopping my drooling.. :P
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 23, 2010 at 07:55 AM
the eagle & eaglet has landed in paco!whoa! ang aga :D
wooohooooo!!!!
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 23, 2010 at 08:36 AM
Ang aga nga ng delivery boy! Pero sardinas ang dinala, di pandesal! Eto po si mini-Jake. ;D ;D ;D
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Uy manang mana sa nanay! Next EB sir Mark ganyan na din suot namin....pambahay! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/21.gif)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 23, 2010 at 11:56 AM
Ang aga nga ng delivery boy! Pero sardinas ang dinala, di pandesal! Eto po si mini-Jake. ;D ;D ;D
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kagwapo pala ng anak ko! ahihihi!
seriously, mark took this pics to benchmark my kids height vs. the focals.
isa lang masasabi ko... deym! the whole set-up, speakers, 11.4, PJ PQ, deym!
the dream theater is just enchanting!
thank you sir mark for accomodating me and mini-me so early and letting me experience what i missed last Christmas EB.
thank you to for pointing to graceland. i finally picked up what i was waiting for, for a long time...
ang bongga ng lola mo oh!!!
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abang na abang na si lola oh! wooooooohooooooo!!!
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Post by: streetsmart on Dec 23, 2010 at 12:23 PM
Post by: alvinh on Dec 23, 2010 at 12:41 PM
Ready na ang location! Swak na swak! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 24, 2010 at 06:26 AM
Post by: iiinas on Dec 24, 2010 at 06:32 AM
Ang aga nga ng delivery boy! Pero sardinas ang dinala, di pandesal! Eto po si mini-Jake. ;D ;D ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0194.jpg)
nice!
Post by: pchin on Dec 24, 2010 at 07:01 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2010 at 07:14 AM
Now that the Major Major upgrade is completed, we hope to hear the Major Major announcement soon for a Major Major EB!!! ;D
Not yet finished.
1. Fabricate and install brackets for Height Speakers.
2. Receive and install Emotiva XPA-5 power amplifier (5-channel).
3. Maybe change cables of Wide and Surround Back speakers.
4. Re-run Audyssey MultEQ Pro.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 24, 2010 at 08:14 AM
Not yet finished.
1. Fabricate and install brackets for Height Speakers.
2. Receive and install Emotiva XPA-5 power amplifier (5-channel).
3. Maybe change cables of Wide and Surround Back speakers.
4. Re-run Audyssey MultEQ Pro.
may pahabol pa pala sa Major Major Upgrade !!!
no more fireworks this new year!
yan pa lang enough BOOM BOOM to welcome 2011 na !!!
Happy Holidays Mark!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 24, 2010 at 08:30 AM
Haha! Talagang well-planned operation! ;D ;D
thank you thank you! feedback left sir mark! cheers and a blessed Christmas ahead!
Post by: frootloops on Dec 24, 2010 at 01:18 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 24, 2010 at 01:31 PM
Not yet finished.bro mark is this true, after what i heard may improvement pa yun ??? :)
1. Fabricate and install brackets for Height Speakers.
2. Receive and install Emotiva XPA-5 power amplifier (5-channel).
3. Maybe change cables of Wide and Surround Back speakers.
4. Re-run Audyssey MultEQ Pro.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2010 at 02:15 PM
bro mark is this true, after what i heard may improvement pa yun ??? :)
Yup. Binili ko na yong Focal Electra BS para sa Height channels -- para pareho lahat ng 7 front speakers. Ginagawa na ngayon ang brackets.
Yong Emotiva amp, binili ko sa sale. Kaya nya kasi 300 watts for 4 ohm speakers. Sumabog kasi ang Bryston amp ko. Dati, sumabog na rin ang Aragon amp. With the Emotiva, palagay ko kayang kaya na ng mga amps ko ang system. Matagal ko na binili. Next week, parating na.
Masyadong payat ang cables na binili ng contractor ko nang kinabit ung 4 bagong speakers (nang ginawang 11 channels). Matagal ko nang gusto palitan.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 24, 2010 at 02:16 PM
Not yet finished.
1. Fabricate and install brackets for Height Speakers.
2. Receive and install Emotiva XPA-5 power amplifier (5-channel).
3. Maybe change cables of Wide and Surround Back speakers.
4. Re-run Audyssey MultEQ Pro.
Yup. Binili ko na yong Focal Electra BS para sa Height channels -- para pareho lahat ng 7 front speakers. Ginagawa na ngayon ang brackets.
Yong Emotiva amp, binili ko sa sale. Kaya nya kasi 300 watts for 4 ohm speakers. Sumabog kasi ang Bryston amp ko. Dati, sumabog na rin ang Aragon amp. With the Emotiva, palagay ko kayang kaya na ng mga amps ko ang system. Matagal ko na binili. Next week, parating na.
Masyadong payat ang cables na binili ng contractor ko nang kinabit ung 4 bagong speakers (nang ginawang 11 channels). Matagal ko nang gusto palitan.
eh sir mark, pano yung isang project mo pa? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 24, 2010 at 02:26 PM
eh sir mark, pano yung isang project mo pa? ;D ;D ;D
MERON PA ?? :o :o :o
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 24, 2010 at 02:31 PM
dinig ko dalawa pa! anak ng kamote!
eto kasi yung kabuoan ng isa... click me (http://www.tweakshop.com/Electra.html)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 24, 2010 at 02:55 PM
eh sir mark, pano yung isang project mo pa? ;D ;D ;D
tinatapos lang yung una susunod na yang isa ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 24, 2010 at 03:09 PM
dinig ko dalawa pa! anak ng kamote!
eto kasi yung kabuoan ng isa... click me (http://www.tweakshop.com/Electra.html)
Iniisip ko ang surrounds nya. Kasi pwedeng gawing surround at surround back ang isang pares lang. Problem is mali ang angle ng mga drivers. Kaya baka wag na muna. Isip muna.
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 24, 2010 at 03:57 PM
tinatapos lang yung una susunod na yang isa ;D ;D ;D
ano ba yang isa pa na yan? ::)
Post by: Cjtjader on Dec 24, 2010 at 04:16 PM
Merry Christmas ,Brader!
Post by: xyobub on Dec 25, 2010 at 01:12 AM
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 25, 2010 at 02:52 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS ! ! !
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Post by: pchin on Dec 25, 2010 at 07:32 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 25, 2010 at 07:37 AM
Post by: pchin on Dec 25, 2010 at 08:24 AM
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Post by: SETUP™ on Dec 25, 2010 at 09:50 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 25, 2010 at 10:17 AM
Anyway, merry Christmas pa din!!!
Post by: macdon on Dec 25, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 25, 2010 at 11:11 AM
Gusto ko sanang batiin ng merry Christmas si sir Mark. Eh alam ko naman merry na merry siya ngayon kasi ganda ganda ng Powkels niya eh. Hehe!hahaha ewan ko kung antok lang ako galing office o ano man ... iba ang pagkaintindi :)
Anyway, merry Christmas pa din!!!
Post by: alvinh on Dec 25, 2010 at 11:56 AM
May the New Year bring you peace, joy and love that will last a lifetime!
Post by: bass_nut on Dec 25, 2010 at 06:01 PM
MERRY CHRISTMAS kuya Mark and family !!! GOD bless !!!
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 25, 2010 at 08:53 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 26, 2010 at 05:42 AM
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 09:47 AM
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I realized that I had made a mistake in the installation of my first Height speakers. They are supposed to be at 45 degrees from a horizontal plane and then another 45 degrees from the vertical plane. I followed these guidelines but I forgot that the calculation of the 45 degrees from the vertical plane should start from ear level. The correct position is much higher and it's not easy to get the exact position because of the bracket. Anyhow, I'm sure that this new position is much more correct than the previous one. It's really HIGH!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0222.jpg)
Most rooms don't have a 14-foot high ceiling so people just try to make do and get them as high as possible. Nonetheless, I have noticed a clear difference with the new position of the Height speakers. Contrary to common perception, the Height speakers don't just add a vertical dimension (like arrows zooming up, even if there is a fantastic scene in the 1st Lord of the Rings when the orcs are firing arrows down - that scene is pretty incredible to watch with the new speaker setup). Actually, the main function of the Height speakers is to add depth to the soundstage. You can notice this more with epic films such as LOTR and with full-orchestra concerts. In my previous setup, it was hard to note the difference between having Height speakers and disabling them. In the new one, it's much easier to tell. I'd say that a part of the reason is the correct installation of the speakers while the other is that the speakers are now Focal Electras which are better and are perfectly matched with my 5 front speakers (LCR + Wide).
Next upgrade was an Emotiva XPA-5 power amp:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0217.jpg)
It was on sale and I couldn't resist. Landed cost for me was around P35k for a beautiful 5-channel power amp, capable of 200 watts @ 8 ohms and 300 watts @ 4 ohms with ALL channels driven. After having blown my Aragon amp twice and having just blown my Bryston amp after 16 years of problem-free performance (it's now in the repair shop), I decided to get the Emotiva, which is reputed to be very solidly built. If you frequent AVS Forum, you will notice that everyone there is buying Emotiva amps. There's a reason for that. The quality is so good and the price is so cheap. Unfortunately, out-of-stock ang XPA-5. Binili yata namin ni @gaol ang 2 huling units. ;D ;D ;D
Listening impressions? Hard to say. All I can say right now is that it's an efficient amp and delivers lots of clean power.
Finally, I decided to change the wiring for 5 of my speakers. My previous contractor had installed very thin cables and while I'm not a big believer in the magical qualities of cables, I do understand that if you're doing runs of more than 50 feet (as in my case), you need thicker cables (gauge 12 to 14). I made a special trip to DEECO and I found these special gauge 12 silver cables:
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These were the top-of-the line cables at DEECO but they aren't that expensive. The only problem, of course, is that you have to go to DEECO. ;D ;D Lapit sa Raon. Ang gulo. Mabaho. Jeep ka lang.
I connected them to the speakers with the new banana plugs that I got from Narayan. These are the best banana plugs I've ever tried. They make a really firm connection.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0226.jpg)
To fabricate and install the speaker brackets and change the 5 speaker wires, I had to use 6 people working more than 12 hours + me as the foreman. Really exhausting work but I'm pretty happy with how things have turned out.
Now, all I need to do is the Audyssey Pro calibration at 10:30 pm up (when the LRT beside us stops running)! ;D ;D
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 29, 2010 at 10:04 AM
too bad i was not able to experience the front heights.
btw what is the ideal height for front heights?
Post by: macdon on Dec 29, 2010 at 10:07 AM
That Emotiva amp seems very heavy - rack is bowing down :o
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 29, 2010 at 10:20 AM
pero meron word dapat wala dun sa title mo mark.....
yung "LAST"......
paki-tanggal na lang.... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 12:08 PM
nicely done bro streetsmart!!
too bad i was not able to experience the front heights.
btw what is the ideal height for front heights?
There is no ideal "height" for the front height speakers. There is rather an ideal angle, which is 45 degrees along a vertical plane. Try to calculate that and you'll find that nasa kisame ka, unless you have very high walls.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 12:10 PM
That Emotiva amp seems very heavy - rack is bowing down :o
Tinakot mo naman ako. ;D ;D
Optical illusion lang yun. Rack isn't bowing down. Matibay ang rack.
Post by: zekiber2 on Dec 29, 2010 at 12:24 PM
ask ko lang since 5 channel si emotiva and 7 channels sa front tapos may 4 channels pa at the back, sa receiver nyo pa ba yung natitirang 6 channels or may dedicated amp din?
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM
@streetsmart
ask ko lang since 5 channel si emotiva and 7 channels sa front tapos may 4 channels pa at the back, sa receiver nyo pa ba yung natitirang 6 channels or may dedicated amp din?
I have 3 x 2-channel dedicated power amps for those 6 remaining channels. However, one of the amps is being repaired so I'm using the internal amp of the Denon 4311 to power 2 channels (the surround back channels, which are the least important).
Once my amp is repaired, I will run the Denon in pre-amp mode.
Post by: alvinh on Dec 29, 2010 at 12:41 PM
I could imagine the re-wiring that has to be done considering the size of your room. But I'm sure you also had fun doing it and most likely felt better about having bigger cables for your speakers.
Ang ganda talaga! Kelangan talagang marinig ko yan... :D
In the meantime, Happy New Year!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 01:29 PM
Congrats Chief Mark! Last upgrade for 2010? ...buti na lang pala at 3 days na lang e 2011 na! hahahaha!
I could imagine the re-wiring that has to be done considering the size of your room. But I'm sure you also had fun doing it and most likely felt better about having bigger cables for your speakers.
Hi Alvin!
2.5 days na nga natitira sa 2010. Wala na talaga chance for additional upgrade. ;D ;D
Ano kaya next year? Siguro pahinga muna ako. Famous last words!!! ;D ;D
In theory, there should be a small audio improvement because of the thicker and better quality cables but it's likely difficult to detect. I guess the most important thing is that I won't obsess about the cables! :)
Post by: praktikal on Dec 29, 2010 at 01:36 PM
pansin ko nga na dumarami na ang gumagamit ng Emotiva at dahil meron ka na, natitiyak kong marami na rin dito ang magsipaggayahan. ;) Idol eh! ;)
ito ang mga setup ng naka XPA-5: http://www.blu-ray.com/Emotiva-XPA-5/13452/?show=photos
God Bless po. :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Dec 29, 2010 at 02:04 PM
Hi Alvin!
2.5 days na nga natitira sa 2010. Wala na talaga chance for additional upgrade. ;D ;D
Ano kaya next year? Siguro pahinga muna ako. Famous last words!!! ;D ;D
i-quote ko lang baka magkalimutan na naman... dapat siguro gumawa na ako ng thread na famous... last words... ahahaha!
sir mark, langya... kakapunta ko lang para makinig ng bagong speakers... may bago na naman! eh last week lang yun ah! di ka pa huli kahit 2.5 days pa!
congrats!
Post by: SETUP™ on Dec 29, 2010 at 03:00 PM
Post by: alvinh on Dec 29, 2010 at 03:30 PM
Hi Alvin!
2.5 days na nga natitira sa 2010. Wala na talaga chance for additional upgrade. ;D ;D
Ano kaya next year? Siguro pahinga muna ako. Famous last words!!! ;D ;D
In theory, there should be a small audio improvement because of the thicker and better quality cables but it's likely difficult to detect. I guess the most important thing is that I won't obsess about the cables! :)
Enjoy mo muna ang set-up mo Chief! It's like a car with a brand new smell....drive it around for a while.
Knowing you, your journey to your ideal HT will not end there as technology keeps advancing...don't look for anything wrong muna with your system ha...enjoy it's capabilities...watch all your bd concerts you have not seen yet...di ba?
But when the itch happens to cross your way, I guess 2011 is just around the corner talaga. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: zekiber2 on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:11 PM
Happy New Year po sir Mark!
pansin ko nga na dumarami na ang gumagamit ng Emotiva at dahil meron ka na, natitiyak kong marami na rin dito ang magsipaggayahan. ;) Idol eh! ;)
ito ang mga setup ng naka XPA-5: http://www.blu-ray.com/Emotiva-XPA-5/13452/?show=photos
God Bless po. :)
etong emotiva nasa wishlist ko yan dati nung nagisip ko mga items if ever magkaroon ako ng dedicated ht hehe kaso xpa3 lang for the lcr the rest bahala na si receiver hehe
Post by: zekiber2 on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:13 PM
Post by: ditoy_eagle on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:20 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:32 PM
wala na ako ma comment eh napapailing na lang ako
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Post by: iiinas on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:34 PM
grats sir mark!
Post by: Digities on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:39 PM
Happy New Year !!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 04:42 PM
Congrats sir Mark! Update kita when office resumes January, hindi umabot theater setup ko for this year kasi.
Hi Ditoy! No problem. Text mo lang ako kapag ready na kayo. :)
Post by: frootloops on Dec 29, 2010 at 07:27 PM
Good buy nga yung Emotiva at 35K. ;)
Tingin ko susunod na yung elevated seats. ;)
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 29, 2010 at 07:33 PM
Ang laking trabaho din pala inabot, but I'm sure maganda po ang salubong ng HT setup sa darating na New Year! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 29, 2010 at 08:23 PM
Nice! naka height speakers ka na senor Mark...Congrats! Iba nga talaga ang effect nyan! Try mo din yung scene sa Master and Commander wherein they were being bombarded in their ship and people running at the upper deck. ;)
Good buy nga yung Emotiva at 35K. ;)
Tingin ko susunod na yung elevated seats. ;)
Hi Donnel! Yes, I've tried that Master & Commander scene & it's much better with the new Height speakers.
Elevated seats? You mean tiered seating? Ayoko nun. Not flexible.
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 29, 2010 at 08:50 PM
There is no ideal "height" for the front height speakers. There is rather an ideal angle, which is 45 degrees along a vertical plane. Try to calculate that and you'll find that nasa kisame ka, unless you have very high walls.thanks bro, btw how much did 1 roll of 14awg cost sa raon? yan ba yung 150 meters per roll? :)
Post by: gaol on Dec 29, 2010 at 09:42 PM
Next upgrade was an Emotiva XPA-5 power amp:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0217.jpg)
It was on sale and I couldn't resist. Landed cost for me was around P35k for a beautiful 5-channel power amp, capable of 200 watts @ 8 ohms and 300 watts @ 4 ohms with ALL channels driven. After having blown my Aragon amp twice and having just blown my Bryston amp after 16 years of problem-free performance (it's now in the repair shop), I decided to get the Emotiva, which is reputed to be very solidly built. If you frequent AVS Forum, you will notice that everyone there is buying Emotiva amps. There's a reason for that. The quality is so good and the price is so cheap. Unfortunately, out-of-stock ang XPA-5. Binili yata namin ni @gaol ang 2 huling units. ;D ;D ;D
Listening impressions? Hard to say. All I can say right now is that it's an efficient amp and delivers lots of clean power.
Congratulations again Mark on all the fatntastic upgrades to your--heck, dare i say everyone's-dream theater! ;D ;D
For the record, I only got 1, nd based on the tracking numbers, mukhang ikaw ang naka-ubos ng XPA-5 kaya hindi nakabili si Jay2!!!! hehehe ;D
Happy New Year Bro and will surely visit your dream theater soon! :)
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 29, 2010 at 09:55 PM
Post by: John E. on Dec 30, 2010 at 04:45 AM
happy new year!
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 30, 2010 at 05:32 AM
thanks bro, btw how much did 1 roll of 14awg cost sa raon? yan ba yung 150 meters per roll? :)
I think that for the ordinary cables, you can get 14 AWG for about P2000 per 100 meters at DEECO (baka less pa nga). Nagbebenta rin sila ng tingi.
My cable is 12 AWG and silver-coated so it cost P75/m and P5800 per roll of 100 meters.
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 30, 2010 at 05:33 AM
What a way to end the year!!! :o Congrats sir Mark!...So when do we get together for a wine drinking session? ::) I'll bring the cheese... :P
Oh ... my weakness. With that incentive, any time. PM ka lang. ;D ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 30, 2010 at 05:41 AM
I think that for the ordinary cables, you can get 14 AWG for about P2000 per 100 meters at DEECO (baka less pa nga). Nagbebenta rin sila ng tingi.not bad .. :)
My cable is 12 AWG and silver-coated so it cost P75/m and P5800 per roll of 100 meters.
how old were your previous cables? did they showed some oxidation, or rot ba yun?
thanks for the pm btw :D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 30, 2010 at 05:44 AM
not bad .. :)
how old were your previous cables? did they showed some oxidation, or rot ba yun?
thanks for the pm btw :D
The cables that they replaced were just a couple of months old, installed by my contractor. Since they are pretty new, wala pang kalawang. Pinalitan ko cuz they were 16 AWG and undersized pa.
I have older 12 AWG cables which are about 11 years old now. May kaunting kalawang sa tips but not much.
Post by: jay2 on Dec 30, 2010 at 09:27 PM
Mark you finally pulled a major major upgrade!!! sobra ganda ng speakers mo wish ako kay santa kahit isang paris lang nyan next year at mapapakabait ako for the whole year umpisa sa chinese new year !!!
Parinig na lang next year pramis dadala ako tuwalya at sigurado tulo laway ko jan :P :P :P
gaol hindi ako umabot sa cutoff mukang naunahan mo ko pag pindot sa checkout! ;)
Post by: stickfighter on Dec 30, 2010 at 09:48 PM
Oh ... my weakness. With that incentive, any time. PM ka lang. ;D ;D
Sure thing sir Mark! It's a plan! ;D
Post by: Mr.H on Dec 30, 2010 at 09:50 PM
Happy New Year 2011
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 31, 2010 at 06:21 AM
Mark you finally pulled a major major upgrade!!! sobra ganda ng speakers mo wish ako kay santa kahit isang paris lang nyan next year at mapapakabait ako for the whole year umpisa sa chinese new year !!!
Parinig na lang next year pramis dadala ako tuwalya at sigurado tulo laway ko jan :P :P :P
Hi Jay! Of course, you do know that you played a major major role in this upgrade. Kaw nag-advice sa akin to pull the trigger pero akala mo 2 triggers lang (1 pair). D mo alam na 9 triggers pala (including the 2 SVS Ultras)! ;D ;D
I insist na bisita ka next year! :)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 31, 2010 at 10:20 AM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Dec 31, 2010 at 10:35 AM
Post by: jay2 on Dec 31, 2010 at 11:57 AM
Hi Jay! Of course, you do know that you played a major major role in this upgrade. Kaw nag-advice sa akin to pull the trigger pero akala mo 2 triggers lang (1 pair). D mo alam na 9 triggers pala (including the 2 SVS Ultras)! ;D ;D
I insist na bisita ka next year! :)
Gulat nga ako ng makita ko mukang kinuha mo lahat ng stocks na focal be ni av driver. Pati ultra ni Mike C mukang pinakyaw nyo.
Sigurado bisita ako at ng madinig ko yung very best of both worlds (Audio and HT)
Happy New year to you and family :)
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 31, 2010 at 12:28 PM
I'm sure the Lord will bless you in this upcoming year! Thanks for being such an inspiration to this community. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/1.gif)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 31, 2010 at 12:43 PM
Dami palang gatilyo ni sir Mark! What's your new cut-off point na pala ngayon sir sa sub and speakers? Audyssey ang nag set ba sir?
The Denon AVR sets different crossovers per channel. Audyssey MultEQ Pro gives the recommendation as to the crossover frequency that will result in the best fit. Most crossovers have been set at 40 Hz, a few at 60 Hz.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Dec 31, 2010 at 12:51 PM
The Denon AVR sets different crossovers per channel. Audyssey MultEQ Pro gives the recommendation as to the crossover frequency that will result in the best fit. Most crossovers have been set at 40 Hz, a few at 60 Hz.
HAPPY NEW YEAR MARK!
Post by: JojoD818 on Jan 01, 2011 at 08:15 AM
Post by: Cjtjader on Jan 01, 2011 at 09:13 AM
Happy New Year, Brader Mark!!!!!!
Post by: audiojunkie on Jan 01, 2011 at 11:24 AM
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:)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 06, 2011 at 02:01 PM
The XTZ Room Analyzer is basically an audio measurement tool. Probably its most useful feature is its ability to measure bass frequencies from 16 Hz to 250 Hz. The following chart corresponds to the raw performance of the Focal Electra 1037 Be front speakers, without any equalization. It shows the frequency and time-domain response, as well as identifies the room modes.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106NosubNoeq.jpg)
A closer view of the time domain chart and room modes:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106NosubNoeqTime.jpg)
I think the charts are self-explanatory. In the frequency response chart, the x-axis is frequency from 16 to 250 Hz while the vertical axis is db, with each horizontal line corresponding to 5 db. One can note that there is a massive room mode at 82 Hz and 2 lesser ones at 36 Hz and 52 Hz. The low-end of the speaker is a little lower than 40 Hz, in accordance with its specs.
The color chart is for time domain, with the x-axis corresponding to 0-250 milliseconds, while the vertical axis is for frequency, up to 250 Hz. The violets correspond to the highest energy, followed by the reds and yellows and finally blue (no energy). Again, one can note the excess energy centered around the 82 Hz room mode. This chart also shows that there is a substantial amount of energy past 50 milliseconds. This refers to excess bass energy that lingers in the room and makes the bass sound bloated. Generally, if the sound energy is limited to 50 milliseconds, the room performance is good.
The performance of the room is actually not that bad, which is not surprising considering the extensive acoustic treatments I have employed. However, the biggest problem is that even for a large high-end speaker such as the Focal Electra 1037, the bass extension below 40 Hz is weak.
Thus, this next chart shows now show the performance of the speakers, with the subwoofers (2 x SVS PB-13 Ultras and 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 V2's). Even if the speakers can go down to 40 Hz, the optimum crossover is sometimes determined by the room and speaker position. This was true in this case because after doing an Audyssey Pro calibration, it was suggested to use 80 Hz as an optimal crossover.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106SubNoeq.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106SubNoeqTime.jpg)
Once more, there was no equalization done and yet, one can see the substantial improvements in the charts. There is now significant bass extension all the way down to 16 Hz (the measurement limit of XTZ) and the energy beyond 50 milliseconds has been substantially dissipated (in this case, I believe that the use of 4 subwoofers is responsible for reducing the effect of the room modes). The main problem in the time domain appears to be the plume at the 37 Hz room mode.
Finally, I activated the Audyssey MultEQ calibration (actually MultEQ XT32 and a Pro kit):
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106Subeq.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106SubeqTime.jpg)
The most obvious difference is that the frequency response is very flat, all the way down to 16 Hz. The second significant thing is that there were no room modes found (in the 1st set of charts, 3 room modes were found while 2 modes were found in the 2nd set of charts). Finally, there is very little energy past 50 milliseconds, which means that the bass response will sound tighter.
This final chart is similar to the previous ones except that it is for all frequencies (all the way up to 20 kHz) and it also shows RT60 (the time it takes to drop 60 db), which is a standard room measurement.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/110106RT60.jpg)
For movies, RT60 of around 0.3 seconds is good so the room is fine. For music, RT60 should typically be higher but this is mitigated by the use of Audyssey DSX so it should also be fine.
Overall, the XTZ Room Analyzer is pretty easy to use and very useful as it gives you a good idea of what's happening in the room.
Post by: gaol on Jan 06, 2011 at 02:39 PM
Btw, I'm not so clear what RT60 is and what it means/implies? I recall Alvin mentioning that a measurement of .3 is good for movies, but for music it should be a bit higher, and it seems this is what he is referring to (I didn't really understand at that time hehehe). I also remember him mentioning that my room will be designed to be tuned a bit higher, para pwede rin for music.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 06, 2011 at 02:46 PM
Very very nice, Mark! ;D
Btw, I'm not so clear what RT60 is and what it means/implies? I recall Alvin mentioning that a measurement of .3 is good for movies, but for music it should be a bit higher, and it seems this is what he is referring to (I didn't really understand at that time hehehe). I also remember him mentioning that my room will be designed to be tuned a bit higher, para pwede rin for music.
RT60 means "Reverberation Time 60 db". It's the time it takes for an audio signal to decay by 60 db in a particular room.
Basically, if a room is full of reflective surfaces, it takes a long time before sound dies down (think of an empty concrete room that is so echo-y). The opposite is a fully carpeted room with full fiberglass treatment on the walls, thick sofas, etc. (very dead). The reflective room will have a high RT60 while the dead room will have a low RT60.
How critical is RT60? Actually, some authors are now saying that it's not that critical. What's really most important are the first reflections and bass traps.
Post by: gaol on Jan 06, 2011 at 02:58 PM
RT60 means "Reverberation Time 60 db". It's the time it takes for an audio signal to decay by 60 db in a particular room.
Basically, if a room is full of reflective surfaces, it takes a long time before sound dies down (think of an empty concrete room that is so echo-y). The opposite is a fully carpeted room with full fiberglass treatment on the walls, thick sofas, etc. (very dead). The reflective room will have a high RT60 while the dead room will have a low RT60.
How critical is RT60? Actually, some authors are now saying that it's not that critical. What's really most important are the first reflections and bass traps.
Ah ok, I get it, thanks. :) Why would the recommended RT60 for music rooms be slightly higher than for pure HT applications? The additional reverberation time makes music sound better, while for HT you would rather the sound you hear is the result of the HT processing, i.e., DD/DTS (HD or not) plus Audyssey (or another) room correction?
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 06, 2011 at 03:17 PM
Ah ok, I get it, thanks. :) Why would the recommended RT60 for music rooms be slightly higher than for pure HT applications? The additional reverberation time makes music sound better, while for HT you would rather the sound you hear is the result of the HT processing, i.e., DD/DTS (HD or not) plus Audyssey (or another) room correction?
My understanding is the following:
Think of a concert at maybe the CCP main theater or Philam. Most of what you hear is reverb (reflections from the walls and ceiling), not direct sound. It gives the listener a sense of greater space or, technically, an improved "Apparent Source Width" and "Listener Envelopment". The RT60 in these concert halls could be between 1.5 to 3 seconds. In our HT, that same reverberation (to a reasonable degree of course) will improve our listening experience to music.
On the other hand, with movies, too high a reverb time may result in poorer dialogue intelligibility.
The practical side of this is that in most rooms, once you put in the furniture, carpet and drapes, RT60 goes down to around 0.5 seconds which is already a fine compromise between music and movies. However, you still need to treat first reflections and install bass traps for the room modes. Therefore, these are actually more critical than RT60.
Post by: pchin on Jan 06, 2011 at 03:34 PM
I'm really curious of my room RT60. Do you think my room condition could be in the range of 0.5 to 1.5? :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 06, 2011 at 03:49 PM
Nice technology equip you have there Mark! Very sophisticated. ;)
I'm really curious of my room RT60. Do you think my room condition could be in the range of 0.5 to 1.5? :)
My guess is that it's a little less than RT50. A fully-furnished living room with carpet and sofas is typically RT50. Your room is more dead than that ... but of course, we need to measure. Next time! :)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 06, 2011 at 07:22 PM
Parang commercial ng beer dati, "Wala ka nang hahanapin pa." ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 06, 2011 at 07:39 PM
Very good sir. Congrats. It gets even better and better ah. Sinusulit talaga ang major major upgrade. And everyone knows your system deserves it.
Parang commercial ng beer dati, "Wala ka nang hahanapin pa." ;)
Hehe. Thanks, Nelson. Actually, a few months ko na ginagamit ang XTZ. Ngayon lang ako nag-post kasi nasa bahay lang past 2 days kaya wala magawa. May sakit -- measles (sakit ng bata). ;D ;D ;D
Pagaling na. :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 06, 2011 at 08:52 PM
Hehe. Thanks, Nelson. Actually, a few months ko na ginagamit ang XTZ. Ngayon lang ako nag-post kasi nasa bahay lang past 2 days kaya wala magawa. May sakit -- measles (sakit ng bata). ;D ;D ;Dget well soon bro so we can visit na! :D
Pagaling na. :)
Post by: iiinas on Jan 07, 2011 at 12:46 PM
but definitely a great tool! grats!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jan 07, 2011 at 01:07 PM
Hehe. Thanks, Nelson. Actually, a few months ko na ginagamit ang XTZ. Ngayon lang ako nag-post kasi nasa bahay lang past 2 days kaya wala magawa. May sakit -- measles (sakit ng bata). ;D ;D ;D
Pagaling na. :)
get well soon Mark!
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2011 at 08:32 PM
As I expected, maganda talaga ang system mo. I haven't heard it prior to the Electras, but it's an impressive HT as it is. You have excellent audio and video right there.
Congrats and salamat po ulit. :)
Post by: Stagea on Jan 22, 2011 at 08:43 PM
Till next time po. :)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 23, 2011 at 06:08 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 23, 2011 at 06:22 AM
Thanks Mark for inviting us over to experience your dream theater, and to savor some of your fine wines. We also enjoyed the thorough Audyssey walk-through, and sampling the different curves in the Pro implementation.
As I expected, maganda talaga ang system mo. I haven't heard it prior to the Electras, but it's an impressive HT as it is. You have excellent audio and video right there.
Congrats and salamat po ulit. :)
Thanks din sa inyo ni Luther for coming over. Biggest thanks though to Hansen, the "Golden Ears" of AV Driver. I learned a lot and enjoyed a lot. I think we successfully tweaked the audio to sound even better, by playing with the Audyssey Pro target curve.
Unfortunately, we realized that the PSB B25 speakers that I'm using for the surrounds and surround backs are not suited for the system. Hay .... :(
According to Luther, who has been to my HT several times over more than 3 years, the latest upgrade of speakers and subs has improved the audio 40-50%. That's pretty high so that makes me feel good. :) :)
It's not just the sound quality of the speakers but also the precise imaging, the fine detail, the huge soundstage, etc. Just a little more and it should be almost perfect. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 23, 2011 at 06:24 AM
Sige. Mng-inggit pa kayo mga masters. I reaaaally wanted to go yesterday pero talagang ang daming obligations.
Hi Nelson! Miss ka nga namin. Pinag-uusapan ka nga. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jan 23, 2011 at 09:30 AM
Thanks din sa inyo ni Luther for coming over. Biggest thanks though to Hansen, the "Golden Ears" of AV Driver. I learned a lot and enjoyed a lot. I think we successfully tweaked the audio to sound even better, by playing with the Audyssey Pro target curve.
Unfortunately, we realized that the PSB B25 speakers that I'm using for the surrounds and surround backs are not suited for the system. Hay .... :(
According to Luther, who has been to my HT several times over more than 3 years, the latest upgrade of speakers and subs has improved the audio 40-50%. That's pretty high so that makes me feel good. :) :)
It's not just the sound quality of the speakers but also the precise imaging, the fine detail, the huge soundstage, etc. Just a little more and it should be almost perfect. ;D
i smell another hapgreyd !! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jan 23, 2011 at 11:16 AM
As I recall it w/ your old setup @-2db its already screamingly loud but now its more like effortless, more dynamic and detailed. No wonder bumigay ang surrounds kasi mate-temp ka talaga lakasan pa lalo up to 0db :o ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 23, 2011 at 01:12 PM
Hi Nelson! Miss ka nga namin. Pinag-uusapan ka nga. ;D ;D ;D
Nakow sir! Ayan na nga ang kinakatakot ko sa EB sa inyo kapag absent... ;D ;D ;D
I'm sure it's well worth the event kasi nanjan mga masters ko. ;)
Congrats on the newly tuned system. Ang balita ko nga, lumabas ang ganda ng BE.
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 30, 2011 at 09:26 AM
Thank you for having me over your place once again to experience your upgraded HT, now with the Focals. :) I am speechless...the sound is simply amazing. :o Like I said, the sound of your HT improved at 50% better from your last set-up. :)
Thank you also for giving me the opportunity to help you decide on which center speaker to go with. I just hope that my opinions did matter. :P
And finally, thanks for running a small blind test on the issue of lossless vs lossy audio output. I made me realize that a receiver upgrade is that necessary for now...instead, I will buy a love seat reclining couch! :D
I enjoyed and had a nice time in our aftermath conversations while having wine...something I always look forward to when visiting your place. :)
Maraming salamat at sa uulitin po sir Mark! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 05:34 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0239.jpg)
For a very long time now, I had been thinking about changing my sofa (or adding another sofa, which is what happened). The problem is that my sofa has a high back which, when I am seated, is even higher than the top of my head, thus completely covering my ears. This is a very bad chair for audio. The back of the sofa should not be higher than your ears. Ideally, it should be only about shoulder height. The technical reasons are simply that you don't hear the surrounds and surround backs. Also, the sound waves bounce off the sofa back and back to your ears, creating some distortion, particularly in the high frequency range.
After many years, I finally got around to getting a new sofa which has the ideal measurements. In my view, the acoustic improvement is even bigger than I had imagined. Having a high-back chair is like having your head under a pillow. The new chair gives more air to the sound. I suspect that I am now hearing the late reflections from the rear and that is actually a good thing. It gives more life to the sound.
Post by: praktikal on Jan 30, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Post by: gunblade977 on Jan 30, 2011 at 05:40 PM
Pati av rack nagpalit ka na rin pala.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 05:46 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0176.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0192.jpg)
When you consider that some authors say that 80% of the sound of a movie comes from the center speaker, you would think that it's best to have a huge monster center speaker. So, after some negotiations with my friends at AV Driver, they offered me a deal which was hard to beat -- a single Focal Electra 1028 Be to be swapped with my center, at full credit. So, I had the Electra 1028 Be delivered:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0248.jpg)
The Electra 1028 Be is the smaller cousin of the Electra 1037 Be. Instead of 3 x 7" woofers for the bass, it has 2 x 6.5" woofers. On the other hand, it has an improved version of the Beryllium tweeter. I couldn't use the Electra 1037 or 1038 Be as the front because it's too high and it would block a portion of my screen.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 05:56 PM
In preparation, I did an Audyssey Pro calibration for the setups with the small center speaker (Electra 1008 Be) and the big FS center (Electra 1028 Be), and saved these in my computer. Audyssey Pro allows me to re-load the calibration in about 10 minutes.
We first listened to the new big FS center and then the small center. We used a standard reference concert, with a powerful tenor and soprano. I also made sure that the voices were coming from the center speaker because if you actually check, for most concerts, the voices come from the fronts, not the center.
Within a few seconds of hearing the small center (after listening to the big FS), it was immediately apparent to everyone that the small speaker was much better. Big shock. It was more complete and, ironically, bigger sounding. More natural and detailed. Less muffled. Pinpoint imaging. Beautiful soundstage without any gaps. How did this happen with this tiny speaker?
Post by: iiinas on Jan 30, 2011 at 06:02 PM
Within a few seconds of hearing the small center (after listening to the big FS), it was immediately apparent to everyone that the small speaker was much better. Big shock. It was more complete and, ironically, bigger sounding. More natural and detailed. Less muffled. Pinpoint imaging. Beautiful soundstage without any gaps. How did this happen with this tiny speaker?
really!?! :o :o :o
great design made by focal then... :o
sayang hindi ako nakapunta...
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 30, 2011 at 06:10 PM
really!?! :o :o :ogreat design nga bro. nagtawanan nalang kami ni martin after a few seconds playing the concert dahil obvious yung difference.
great design made by focal then... :o
sayang hindi ako nakapunta...
but i still waited for the chic to sing kasi yun yung feeling ko mas maraming frequency covered. it did not disappoint. suspect ko talaga is the center speaker having more driver variation + tweeter ofcourse.
unlike the FS na halos pareho yung sizes ng drivers :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 06:15 PM
Now, take a look at this beautiful link and look at the frequency range of male and female voices. They are from around 100 Hz to 1kHz, with harmonics reaching up to 8 kHz:
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm
The small center speaker had a 3" mid-range driver handling 500 Hz to 2.2 kHz and 2 x 6.5" drivers handling frequencies up to 500 Hz.
On the other hand, the big FS had a 6.5" driver handling 230 Hz up to 2.2 kHz.
If you analyze this data, you will see that the small center speaker had 3 drivers (2 x 6.5" and 1 x 3") handling the majority of the frequencies for vocals while the big FS had only a single driver (1 x 6.5"). Furthermore, Hansen explained that for the higher frequencies, a smaller driver has better sq than a big driver. Therefore, the small 3" driver was actually more effective for the 500 Hz to 2.2 kHz region, which is where most of the vocals are.
For the center speaker, I have always advocated a tower speaker over the typical horizontal speaker. In this particular case, I concede that Focal has done a very good job with its horizontal center speaker. Everyone immediately knew that it was much better than the big tower speaker.
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 30, 2011 at 06:48 PM
Thanks for the get together sir Mark. The company was more intimate with only a few of us but I learned more in these small sessions than our big gatherings. Till next time...
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 30, 2011 at 06:54 PM
this is waht i like about your thread, you have always provided write ups that give better understanding for readers on what you are talking about
not only a sight to behold but intelligence to grasp
kudos to you sir mark. ;) ;) ;)
Post by: juanch on Jan 30, 2011 at 06:59 PM
And nice impressions with the Focal center speaker versus the FS, It was a short but compelling read.
Your new sofa is also great. I know now where I'll sit next time I visit ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 07:00 PM
Later that week, I was with Pchin and we noticed some popping sounds with "Flight of the Phoenix". PSB speakers again.
So, I decided to try out the Focal surrounds. I really need bookshelf speakers for the surrounds and surround backs + I don't believe in spending too much for the surrounds because they mainly just add ambience and contribute to some panning. For me, the main criteria for the surrounds is that they should be of the same family or have similar drivers + they should be able to handle the power requirement. It's very difficult to "audition" surrounds.
So, we tested these Focal Profile 908 speakers yesterday, which have the same mid-range drivers as my other Focals and the same tweeter as the Heights:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0242.jpg)
The binding posts of the Focal speakers are beautiful. The only problem is that they are non-standard so you can't use twin banana plugs.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0244.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 07:08 PM
Earlier today, I did some testing with Audyssey Pro and I couldn't see anything unusual with any speaker so I'm assuming there was no damage done. We are suspecting it was a "soft" clip of the Emotiva amp (200 watts @ 8 ohms and 300 watts @ 4 ohms). The problem is that the speaker crossover point was at 40 Hz and "The Haunting" is really LOUD.
Lesson learned -- I have a phobia now of "The Haunting". My New Year's resolution is never to drive my system at indecent sound levels.
We were driving the system so strong that last week, @Stagea thought that I had a butt kicker. Wala problema with the 2 x SVS Ultras and 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 subs. Problem was *probably* the huge Emotiva amps. Hay .... :'( :'( Ayoko na!
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 07:20 PM
My experience with the experiment on the center speakers was also great. It reinforces the truth that in this hobby, nothing beats an actual audition in your actual setup.
My experience with the sofa is incredibly great! A huge improvement for a relatively small investment. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 07:30 PM
Although I didn't hear the FS as the center speaker, the Focal center speaker blended seamlessly with the fronts. I wasn't able to distinguish if the vocals were coming from the fronts, center or both which is a good thing and should be. Maybe it's the horizontal orientation of the center that made the integration harmonious with the fronts as compared to the floorstander. What could I say...the best is still getting better. Great job!
Martin had the same impression. Parang masyado raw malakas ang FS na center. Yet, Audyssey had balanced the volume so the SPL of the FS and the horizontal speakers was the same. I think that somehow, probably because they are really designed to be centers, the horizontal centers just blended much better with the Fronts.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 30, 2011 at 07:35 PM
nicely done sir mark
this is waht i like about your thread, you have always provided write ups that give better understanding for readers on what you are talking about
not only a sight to behold but intelligence to grasp
kudos to you sir mark. ;) ;) ;)
Thanks, Tirso. I always put a lot of thought into these upgrades and I make sure that I transfer whatever I learn (or think that I learn!) to the Pinoydvd community. :)
Post by: gaol on Jan 30, 2011 at 09:00 PM
Ibang klase talaga ang iyong quest for your dream theater. The journey's end, if it even exists, is sure to be nirvana, but it's the journey that makes the quest worthwhile. :)
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 31, 2011 at 04:11 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 05:13 AM
Sir Mark, have you tried floorstanders for the surrounds? I know that you wouldn't want to invest so much in the 5-10% contribution of the surrounds to your system but that might be the solution to the elimination of the "pop". You might want to run the Haunting again with this set up then decide. Your Emotiva amp has the beef to drive them to their fullest potential. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
Yes, I used to have floorstanders for surrounds. They can handle power but they don't really provide the proper effect. Surrounds are mainly for ambience and that's why they must be mounted high. Now, try to mount the FS Focals high. You have a choice of either 120 lbs for the Electra 1038 or 75 lbs for the Electra 1028. That's why you have to use BS speakers for surrounds.
If you want to reduce the power needed by a speaker, increase the crossover point, so I raised it to 80 Hz. I think the new Focal Profile 908 should be sufficient cuz it passed our torture tests.
I still think that it could have been the amp that clipped when we heard the pop. The SPL was unbelievably loud. Hay ... a 200 watt amp clipping. :'(
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 05:22 AM
1) I've noticed that when all the tweeters of the LCR (+ Wides in my case) speakers are of the same height and approximately ear level, the coherence and smoothness of the sound stage just snaps into place. The small center speaker (Electra 1008 Be) is mounted so that it's tweeter is at the same height as the fronts. However, the tweeter of the Electra 1028 Be FS is much lower than my fronts so the only thing you can do is put a kalso at the front of the speaker so the tweeter is angled slightly upward. I think this arrangement is less than ideal.
2) A friend of mine had a tiny Focal Corus speaker that matched the rest of his speaker set. Although it was tiny, it produced a big sound and I didn't find anything wrong with it. A salesman convinced him to get a huge Paradigm center speaker. I've listened to the system and I can't detect any improvement. Theoretically, the sound should have deteriorated cuz the center is no longer the same family (or even brand) as the rest. In other words, insofar as the center speaker is concerned, size seems to be a much lesser consideration. In fact, are they purposely designed to be small? Does that produce a better sound for vocals? I don't know ... yet.
3) I still think that theoretically, all things being equal, vertical speaker is better than a horizontal speaker, no matter what the purpose of the speaker. That's because of the comb filtering that the horizontal speaker produces and that is well-documented. In our experiment, however, all things were not equal cuz the drivers and crossovers were different. It seems like those were enough to offset the innate advantage of a vertically-oriented speaker.
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 31, 2011 at 05:36 AM
Martin had the same impression. Parang masyado raw malakas ang FS na center. Yet, Audyssey had balanced the volume so the SPL of the FS and the horizontal speakers was the same. I think that somehow, probably because they are really designed to be centers, the horizontal centers just blended much better with the Fronts.
Sir Mark, allow me to post the impression that I PM'd you yesterday... :)
Honestly, I feel that the FS (Focal Electra 1028) is a bit too loud for it to be used as a center speaker on it's own. Don't get me wrong...it gets the job done, but unlike the CS (Electra 1008 Be), it does cover more area.
It was very much felt on the Berlin Concert BD you popped in to demo. The FS sound was smacked out right straight at us. My msitake was, I did not change seating positions to hear if I was going to hear the same output from a different seating area. But nonetheless, as we did the same material on the CS, you could really hear how enveloping the sound is. Like you said, you could tell the difference better as you were in an awkward sitting area.
I truly feel that the FS could also be a good center speaker, but might be to overpowering to pair up with the fronts. I don't know if Audessey can supress the sound from the FS as not to overpower the fronts, but we have to consider that the FS has it's characteristics of performing how it should perform. I believe Audessey can only do so little to evade it from its main purpose - to be a FS.
I also agree with Hansen when he said that changing the orientation of the CS from it being horizontal in nature can leave gaps in between the fronts and the center, specially on panning scenes.
If I were to decide, based on what I experienced yesterday, I would go with the CS, simply because it is doing it's job that it was meant for it to have been made...to be a CS.
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 05:55 AM
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 07:39 AM
Sorry, I wasn't able to make it last Saturday. Medyo puno ang schedule eh, but I'm glad to hear that the results are in favor of your original choice. Perfect na talaga yung front stage when I heard it. :) The Profiles should take care of the rest. Congrats ulit sa bagong hakot. :)
Earlier today, I did some testing with Audyssey Pro and I couldn't see anything unusual with any speaker so I'm assuming there was no damage done. We are suspecting it was a "soft" clip of the Emotiva amp (200 watts @ 8 ohms and 300 watts @ 4 ohms). The problem is that the speaker crossover point was at 40 Hz and "The Haunting" is really LOUD.
It's truly possible Sir Mark. I can get my audio power amps to clip during transients, when playing at high volumes. Admittedly, I'm running them full range (typical dedicated audio setup). These amps are pretty close to your Emotiva in output (CA 840W rated at 200wpc @ 8 ohms / 350wpc @ 4ohms and Adcom GFA-555SE measured at 232w @ 8 ohms / 332w @ 4 ohms). The only amp I've tried that I was unable to max-out was my friend's Yamaha MX-D1 (this is a very strong amp indeed at a measured 530wpc @ 8 ohms / 590wpc @ 4 ohms). Malaki din talaga tulong ng may extra headroom, in my opinion.
This might be especially true in a room as big as yours. Running a higher crossover frequency may indeed help ease the load for "The Haunting" duties at reference level. :) Perhaps a notch up might solve the issue diba?
Lesson learned -- I have a phobia now of "The Haunting". My New Year's resolution is never to drive my system at indecent sound levels.
We were driving the system so strong that last week, @Stagea thought that I had a butt kicker. Wala problema with the 2 x SVS Ultras and 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 subs. Problem was *probably* the huge Emotiva amps. Hay .... :'( :'( Ayoko na!
Yeah, the sofa was vibrating vigorously that it truly felt like something's shaking it. ;D Kala ko tuloy there was something in there. :D
Post by: nerveblocker on Jan 31, 2011 at 07:53 AM
Sir Mark, just noticed that your sofa is a standout in your room coz it is not color keyed with the rest of the furniture. (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/4.gif)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 08:13 AM
It's truly possible Sir Mark. I can get my audio power amps to clip during transients, when playing at high volumes. Admittedly, I'm running them full range (typical dedicated audio setup). These amps are pretty close to your Emotiva in output (CA 840W rated at 200wpc @ 8 ohms / 350wpc @ 4ohms and Adcom GFA-555SE measured at 232w @ 8 ohms / 332w @ 4 ohms). The only amp I've tried that I was unable to max-out was my friend's Yamaha MX-D1 (this is a very strong amp indeed at a measured 530wpc @ 8 ohms / 590wpc @ 4 ohms). Malaki din talaga tulong ng may extra headroom, in my opinion.
This might be especially true in a room as big as yours. Running a higher crossover frequency may indeed help ease the load for "The Haunting" duties at reference level. :) Perhaps a notch up might solve the issue diba?
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm more convinced that the problem was the amp. Payat pala ang 200 watts @ 8 ohms. ;D ;D
But it depends nga on the room, on how loud you're playing it and on the crossover. Yes, I will kick up the crossovers to a uniform 80 Hz. And as I have solemnly resolved, I will no longer play at indecent levels, even if Mike C is in the house. ;D ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jan 31, 2011 at 08:42 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm more convinced that the problem was the amp. Payat pala ang 200 watts @ 8 ohms. ;D ;D
But it depends nga on the room, on how loud you're playing it and on the crossover. Yes, I will kick up the crossovers to a uniform 80 Hz. And as I have solemnly resolved, I will no longer play at indecent levels, even if Mike C is in the house. ;D ;D
For now? ;D
Kaya lang naging payat si Emotiva, cuz power hungry lang talaga ang woofers ng FS niyo. ;)
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 09:45 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm more convinced that the problem was the amp. Payat pala ang 200 watts @ 8 ohms. ;D ;D
But it depends nga on the room, on how loud you're playing it and on the crossover. Yes, I will kick up the crossovers to a uniform 80 Hz. And as I have solemnly resolved, I will no longer play at indecent levels, even if Mike C is in the house. ;D ;D
Hindi naman payat sir. Afterall, we don't listen or watch at those levels right? :) It can still play at very high volume levels, nagkataon lang na it's a step below the 0dB point sa pre-pro. :)
If you wanna isolate if it's the amp, pwede naman 5 XPA-1 amps. 1 monoblock per channel ng front stage (HiFi-style). ;D When you consider the cost of those speakers, parang mura na lang yung 5 monoblocks. Reduced crosstalk and intermodulation pa diba. ;D
Post by: iiinas on Jan 31, 2011 at 10:20 AM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm more convinced that the problem was the amp. Payat pala ang 200 watts @ 8 ohms. ;D ;D
as usual sir mark. dibs na ako sa emotiva mo if ever! ;D
mag monoblock ka na nga. xpa-1 na! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 10:21 AM
Hindi naman payat sir. Afterall, we don't listen or watch at those levels right? :) It can still play at very high volume levels, nagkataon lang na it's a step below the 0dB point sa pre-pro. :)
If you wanna isolate if it's the amp, pwede naman 5 XPA-1 amps. 1 monoblock per channel ng front stage (HiFi-style). ;D When you consider the cost of those speakers, parang mura na lang yung 5 monoblocks. Reduced crosstalk and intermodulation pa diba. ;D
Kaw talaga pinaka-bad influence sa lahat. ;D ;D
Proposal mo is worth $5k. Parang overkill. Bibili pa bagong rack uli!
Actually, ang tinitingnan ko is some kind of amp combination which includes the XPA-2.
Post by: gaol on Jan 31, 2011 at 11:39 AM
as usual sir mark. dibs na ako sa emotiva mo if ever! ;D
mag monoblock ka na nga. xpa-1 na! ;D
Ambilis mo talaga brader! hehehe ;D
Since my room is less than half the size of your room Mark, and my speakers are not really power hungry, I guess okay pa rin yung emo xpa-5 ko. So far, according to the Omni wattmeter, it rarely goes beyond 300watts at my listening levels. ;)
Post by: stickfighter on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:01 PM
Kaw talaga pinaka-bad influence sa lahat. ;D ;D
Proposal mo is worth $5k. Parang overkill. Bibili pa bagong rack uli!
Actually, ang tinitingnan ko is some kind of amp combination which includes the XPA-2.
If ever sir Mark, reserve mo na isang rack mo for me! ;D
Post by: mike c on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:03 PM
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm more convinced that the problem was the amp. Payat pala ang 200 watts @ 8 ohms. ;D ;D
But it depends nga on the room, on how loud you're playing it and on the crossover. Yes, I will kick up the crossovers to a uniform 80 Hz. And as I have solemnly resolved, I will no longer play at indecent levels, even if Mike C is in the house. ;D ;D
bakit ako kasali diyan? ;D
ang question now is, meron na bang third party tests on the emotiva amp? was it really producing 200w? kasi 200w is crazy power na even for that size room.
cough pro amp cough
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:44 PM
as usual sir mark. dibs na ako sa emotiva mo if ever! ;D
mag monoblock ka na nga. xpa-1 na! ;D
If ever sir Mark, reserve mo na isang rack mo for me! ;D
Bakit kayo parang mga vulture? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: mike c on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:47 PM
Bakit kayo parang mga vulture? ;D ;D ;D
diba nagbabantay talaga mga vulture sa tira tira ng mga kinakain ng mga Leon ...
Guinto
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:49 PM
bakit ako kasali diyan? ;D
ang question now is, meron na bang third party tests on the emotiva amp? was it really producing 200w? kasi 200w is crazy power na even for that size room.
cough pro amp cough
Tama si Mike. You can get a Yamha P2500 professional amp at $420, inclusive of US shipping, from Amazon and have it shipped here by boat. 620 watts output in bridged mode. The only problem -- 110 volts siya. You need a huge transformer.
Post by: mike c on Jan 31, 2011 at 12:54 PM
Tama si Mike. You can get a Yamha P2500 professional amp at $420, inclusive of US shipping, from Amazon and have it shipped here by boat. 620 watts output in bridged mode. The only problem -- 110 volts siya. You need a huge transformer.
and there are 350w and 450w per channel models too (at 8 ohms)
the advantage of the yamaha P*500S series is that the fans don't run until necessary, and i and other users have never encountered an instance where this was necessary.
i bought locally para 220v ... mas mura pa rin kesa rotel. catch is manually turning it on and off
Post by: iiinas on Jan 31, 2011 at 01:02 PM
Bakit kayo parang mga vulture? ;D ;D ;D
ganun talaga yun sir mark, one man's junk is another man's treasure!
diba nagbabantay talaga mga vulture sa tira tira ng mga kinakain ng mga Leon ...
Guinto
bwahaha!!! truly ito sir mike! ;)
Post by: mike c on Jan 31, 2011 at 01:06 PM
ganun talaga yun sir mark, one man's junk is another man's treasure!
bwahaha!!! truly ito sir mike! ;)
maraming kinakain kasi yung Leon ng Guintong Manila ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 31, 2011 at 02:02 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 31, 2011 at 02:04 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jan 31, 2011 at 02:15 PM
Langya talaga kayo! Wala ba kayong mga trabaho? Bakit kayo nanggugulo dito sa matino kong thread?? >:( >:( >:(
ganun po yata talaga sir mark pag nag iintay ng masisila, laging nakabantay hahahahahaha
Post by: Stagea on Jan 31, 2011 at 03:33 PM
Kaw talaga pinaka-bad influence sa lahat. ;D ;D
Proposal mo is worth $5k. Parang overkill. Bibili pa bagong rack uli!
Actually, ang tinitingnan ko is some kind of amp combination which includes the XPA-2.
Nasabi ko lang naman sir para wala nang "what ifs" heheh. Flagship na nila diba. ;D
Basing kasi sa 8 ohm ratings, the XPA-2 will yield a 1.8dB improvement in headroom against the XPA-5. On the other hand, the XPA-1 will offer a 4.0dB increase. Tempting diba? ;D
Just ignore me, I'm merely thinking aloud. ;) Whichever naman ang mapili niyo eh for sure panalo, only the best para sa Leon. :)
Post by: iiinas on Jan 31, 2011 at 04:18 PM
Langya talaga kayo! Wala ba kayong mga trabaho? Bakit kayo nanggugulo dito sa matino kong thread?? >:( >:( >:(
naku, nagalit ang leon....
:-* :-* :-*
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:03 AM
If ever sir Mark, reserve mo na isang rack mo for me! ;Ddalawa yun di ba, akin na isa ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:08 AM
dalawa yun di ba, akin na isa ;D
Correct brader Jams...dalawang rack yon. :) Ok na sir Mark...reserved na yung dalawang rack mo! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:09 AM
My only problem is that one of my amps needs to be repaired but once that's done, I'll use the 3 older amps to handle the LCR + Wides. This way, no more need to buy new power amps and racks. I'm sorry, @Iiinas, @Stickfighter and @ninjababez. ;D
Post by: frootloops on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:19 AM
Seriously...your Bryston will definitely do the job. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:31 AM
Senor..since you are more into concerts and music..how about considering selling your old amps and getting a Lamm Monoblocks instead to power your fronts? I can smell sweet music with your Focals then. ;D
Seriously...your Bryston will definitely do the job. ;)
Actually, weather-weather din ang preference ko. Paminsan music, paminsan movies and quite often a movie followed by a concert clip. $30k yata ang Lam Monoblocks and parang 18 wpc. Medyo kulang power niya, buti na lang. ;D ;D ;D
Ito ang magandang amp: http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/site/74030/117839/shopping/shopping-view.html?pid=332922&b_id=&find_groupid=18048
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 01, 2011 at 09:07 AM
Post by: frootloops on Feb 01, 2011 at 09:38 AM
Actually, weather-weather din ang preference ko. Paminsan music, paminsan movies and quite often a movie followed by a concert clip. $30k yata ang Lam Monoblocks and parang 18 wpc. Medyo kulang power niya, buti na lang. ;D ;D ;D
Ito ang magandang amp: http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/site/74030/117839/shopping/shopping-view.html?pid=332922&b_id=&find_groupid=18048
Huwaw! Idle power at 90W! Siguro naman at that price and power super solve ka na dyan. :)
Pila na kayo sa Emotiva! ;D
Post by: Stagea on Feb 01, 2011 at 01:34 PM
Ito ang magandang amp: http://www.wyred4sound.com/webapps/site/74030/117839/shopping/shopping-view.html?pid=332922&b_id=&find_groupid=18048
Nice Class-D amp. Very high current single box solution to your issue. :D
That can handle your L/R, Wides, and Heights... tapos bridged Bryston sa center. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:05 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0252.jpg)
This is a photo of the Profile 908 and the Electra 1007 S. The Electra is mounted much higher and it weighs 30 lbs, whereas the Profile is 18 lbs. However, the woofer and tweeter of the 2 speakers are exactly the same. They match perfectly.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0254.jpg)
Here's a photo of the Electra 1037 Be with its grill removed. Looks pretty awesome.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0256a.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:09 AM
The addition of the Profiles has provided even more detail to the surrounds and has made them blend better with the rest of the speakers. One feels totally immersed and enveloped in the movie.
The other thing we found out was that the Profile 908 speaker is pretty awesome by itself. We ran a pair as stereo and it was incredible.
Post by: iiinas on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:15 AM
Yesterday, Hansen, @Setup and his brother, @Gaol and @Iiinas came over to listen to the new setup.
The addition of the Profiles has provided even more detail to the surrounds and has made them blend better with the rest of the speakers. One feels totally immersed and enveloped in the movie.
The other thing we found out was that the Profile 908 speaker is pretty awesome by itself. We ran a pair as stereo and it was incredible.
thanks for having us again last night sir mark. ;)
Post by: juanch on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:26 AM
The speakers are beautiful and I'm sure the sound matches it's looks.
Can't wait for my next visit.
Post by: XXXyzledge on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:48 AM
kumpleto na pala all focal setup!
congrats mark!
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:49 AM
Thank you also sir hansen for a very good offer. pag ipunan ko po ;D ;D
Post by: macdon on Feb 06, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Ang galing din ng gumawa ng mga brackets mo ;) Saan ka nagpapagawa?
Uber taas na talaga ang level ng HT mo - congrats! ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 06, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 06, 2011 at 02:05 PM
Ang galing din ng gumawa ng mga brackets mo ;) Saan ka nagpapagawa?
Bracket fabricator is my driver. Equipment c/o my wife. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 06, 2011 at 02:08 PM
Thank you very much Sir Mark, i love the different sounds coming out of your electra's specially when you played moulin rouge :D thank you for that enveloping experience we had at you theather, yes indeed, the Focal profile 908 speaker is a very good sounding bs speaker. very clean and detailed high! at ikaw lang yata ang gumawa ng ganyan! making 2-125k peso pair of speaker as a surrounds :o :o :o :o
Thank you also sir hansen for a very good offer. pag ipunan ko po ;D ;D
Hi Christian! Yes, there is even more acoustic detail now. Instrument separation is more defined. Another thing that struck me is the cleanness of the panning. I recall a car moving from front to left back and the sound was so realistic. Mapapalingon ka sa likod.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 06, 2011 at 06:06 PM
thanks for having us again last night sir mark. ;)
Naalala ko bigla ... ang sama talaga ng tingin ni kagawad Aynas sa mga amp ko. Talagang sinusuri niya lahat kung may gasgas, kung makinis pa, parang sinusukat pa nga ... May mga suggestion pa sya kung paano magkasya ang 5 monoblock ng Emotiva para sa kanya na lang ang lumang 5-channel na Emotiva.
Post by: iiinas on Feb 06, 2011 at 06:41 PM
Naalala ko bigla ... ang sama talaga ng tingin ni kagawad Aynas sa mga amp ko. Talagang sinusuri niya lahat kung may gasgas, kung makinis pa, parang sinusukat pa nga ... May mga suggestion pa sya kung paano magkasya ang 5 monoblock ng Emotiva para sa kanya na lang ang lumang 5-channel na Emotiva.
hehehe, maganda naman ang intention ko sir mark, para makamtan mo ang ht nirvana!
XPA 1!
Post by: gaol on Feb 06, 2011 at 06:49 PM
Naalala ko bigla ... ang sama talaga ng tingin ni kagawad Aynas sa mga amp ko. Talagang sinusuri niya lahat kung may gasgas, kung makinis pa, parang sinusukat pa nga ... May mga suggestion pa sya kung paano magkasya ang 5 monoblock ng Emotiva para sa kanya na lang ang lumang 5-channel na Emotiva.
Pero Mark, kulang ang suggestion niya, what you need is 11 Emotiva XPA-1s!!! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for having me over (finally!) again! The improvement is really very evident, as if a veil was removed over the sound (athough it sounded good already before). I was thinking while watching 2012, with all the mayhem, it's as if mahihimay mo yung bawat sound!
The Focals are really something else. That makes me wonder, what else can you get from the P8M/pair focal Utopias versus yours ? .... ::) ::) ::)
Post by: iiinas on Feb 06, 2011 at 06:52 PM
Pero Mark, kulang ang suggestion niya, what you need is 11 Emotiva XPA-1s!!! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for having me over (finally!) again! The improvement is really very evident, as if a veil was removed over the sound (athough it sounded good already before). I was thinking while watching 2012, with all the mayhem, it's as if mahihimay mo yung bawat sound!
The Focals are really something else. That makes me wonder, what else can you get from the P8M/pair focal Utopias versus yours ? .... ::) ::) ::)
hehehe oo nga, pero pwede na yung pitong xpa1 tapos yung mga surrounds, kaya na ng denon. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 06, 2011 at 06:58 PM
Thanks for having me over (finally!) again! The improvement is really very evident, as if a veil was removed over the sound (athough it sounded good already before). I was thinking while watching 2012, with all the mayhem, it's as if mahihimay mo yung bawat sound!right on the money bro arn!
btw bro mark, congrats on your all focal setup. pwede na ba kami makinood ng sine. :D
nag enjoy ng husto yung kasama ko eh ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 06, 2011 at 07:15 PM
Pero Mark, kulang ang suggestion niya, what you need is 11 Emotiva XPA-1s!!! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for having me over (finally!) again! The improvement is really very evident, as if a veil was removed over the sound (athough it sounded good already before). I was thinking while watching 2012, with all the mayhem, it's as if mahihimay mo yung bawat sound!
The Focals are really something else. That makes me wonder, what else can you get from the P8M/pair focal Utopias versus yours ? .... ::) ::) ::)
i wouldnt be surprised na ganyan na sa susunod ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 07, 2011 at 09:26 AM
The Focals are really something else. That makes me wonder, what else can you get from the P8M/pair focal Utopias versus yours ? .... ::) ::) ::)
573 lbs and almost 7' high Grande Utopia. Its footprint is about 2' x 3'. Haven't heard it but it must be good. You need a room twice the size of my HT. Now, that's a good project -- new house, new HT. ;D ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/FocalGrandeUtopia.jpg)
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 07, 2011 at 12:25 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 07, 2011 at 05:23 PM
Truly one of the reference systems here sa P.I.
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 07, 2011 at 05:36 PM
Congrats sir Mark. I knew from the start you won't regret the new powkels. ;)
Truly one of the reference systems here sa P.I.
Hi Nelson! High end talaga ang Profile 908 speakers. I was amazed how good they sounded in stereo, without any equalization. When you match them to the rest of the Focals, you create a super-detailed surround experience. It's only now that I can say that I truly appreciate the value of using a full set of speakers from the same family (more or less, hehe) - the blending of the speakers is so good that even with 11 speakers and 4 subs, you can't tell where the sound is coming from. The speakers disappear.
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:14 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:17 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:30 PM
Panalo yun pagka fabricate nun mga brackets sir Mark! 8)
Yes and no. Universal adjustment siya and matibay but there was an error sa design. Kung mapansin mo, di sagad ang speaker sa likod. Reason is that nasa baba ang tweeter and kung isagad ang speaker sa likod, nasa harap at baba ng tweeter ang isang metal brace - bad reflection. Kaya aayusin ko pa ang brace - iaatras siya.
Kapag naayos ko na ito (and sana maayos din ang isang Aragon amp ko), pwede na EB. :) :)
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:35 PM
Yes and no. Universal adjustment siya and matibay but there was an error sa design. Kung mapansin mo, di sagad ang speaker sa likod. Reason is that nasa baba ang tweeter and kung isagad ang speaker sa likod, nasa harap at baba ng tweeter ang isang metal brace - bad reflection. Kaya aayusin ko pa ang brace - iaatras siya.
Kapag naayos ko na ito (and sana maayos din ang isang Aragon amp ko), pwede na EB. :) :)
Awesome...can't wait for the next EB sir Mark! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:38 PM
Awesome...can't wait for the next EB sir Mark! ;D
Kaw nga diyan, sabi mo dadala ka ng pizza sa EB natin. Bakit last week, walang pizza? ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:39 PM
Yes and no. Universal adjustment siya and matibay but there was an error sa design. Kung mapansin mo, di sagad ang speaker sa likod. Reason is that nasa baba ang tweeter and kung isagad ang speaker sa likod, nasa harap at baba ng tweeter ang isang metal brace - bad reflection. Kaya aayusin ko pa ang brace - iaatras siya.
Kapag naayos ko na ito (and sana maayos din ang isang Aragon amp ko), pwede na EB. :) :)
Oo nga ano? Pero sir Mark baka naman mahulog pag nakasagad ng husto sa harap?
Anyways, EB sounds great!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:40 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:40 PM
Kaw nga diyan, sabi mo dadala ka ng pizza sa EB natin. Bakit last week, walang pizza? ;D ;D
Pizza...? Are you sure? Ang naalala ko sabi ko cheese para sa wine, which hinde rin ako nakapagdala. :P
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:42 PM
Pizza...? Are you sure? Ang naalala ko sabi ko cheese para sa wine, which hinde rin ako nakapagdala. :P
Oops ... tama ka. ;D ;D ;D
E kung cheese, dapat small EB lang yun. Tayo-tayo lang. Sige, arrange natin. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 07, 2011 at 07:45 PM
Pizza...? Are you sure? Ang naalala ko sabi ko cheese para sa wine, which hinde rin ako nakapagdala. :P
kinorek mo pa eh di ka rin pala nakapag dala hahahahahaha
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 08, 2011 at 04:46 PM
Hi Nelson! High end talaga ang Profile 908 speakers. I was amazed how good they sounded in stereo, without any equalization. When you match them to the rest of the Focals, you create a super-detailed surround experience. It's only now that I can say that I truly appreciate the value of using a full set of speakers from the same family (more or less, hehe) - the blending of the speakers is so good that even with 11 speakers and 4 subs, you can't tell where the sound is coming from. The speakers disappear.
I "feel" you sir Mark. ;D So what's the current cut-off na for the fronts? Lemme guess, around 60hz? :D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 08, 2011 at 05:25 PM
I "feel" you sir Mark. ;D So what's the current cut-off na for the fronts? Lemme guess, around 60hz? :D
Nope. After my bad experience with "Flight of the Phoenix" and "The Haunting", I have set all crossovers at 80 Hz. Maybe after some time, when I feel more confident, babaan ko crossover.
Actually, theoretically, there should be little difference and in fact, the subs should handle the bass better because there are 4 of them and they are located properly for bass.
Post by: pchin on Feb 09, 2011 at 05:45 PM
Nope. After my bad experience with "Flight of the Phoenix" and "The Haunting", I have set all crossovers at 80 Hz. Maybe after some time, when I feel more confident, babaan ko crossover.
Let's try those two demos again in the near future! :D
It's alway a great pleasure to be able to visit your HT nirvana. Excellent picture & sound. The Darknight was really good with the helicopter flyover effect, trucks & cars smashing, it's a joy to hear all the details.... :o
(http://a1.phobos.apple.com/us/r1000/056/Purple/29/8a/27/mzl.spnlkrzl.320x480-75.jpg)
Post by: babed95 on Feb 20, 2011 at 04:47 AM
Eto ang main speakers. PSB Stratus Goldi. These speakers have received a lot of good reviews. Dati, ang ginamit ko as main speakers were the JBL XPL-200, but by experimentation, I found that the PSB speakers are much better, especially when they are paired with the Aragon 8008BB power amp. Namimili talaga ang speakers na ito sa power amp. With the Bryston power amp, walang dating. You just have to learn by trial and error. Generally, the top-of-the-line PSB speakers have excellent sound but they are not efficient. They need a huge power amp to properly drive them.if ever me binabalak akong upgrade sa modest ht ko i always revisit your thread sir for inspiration and guidance ksi for me ikaw yun epitome ng standard pagdating sa ht well marami na ngayong magaganda at dedicated talagang ht na nagpopost sa pdvd pro still they are looking for you as the master of ht for guidance and advices well for that i really admire you i hope sana kahit 1/4 lang ng nagawa mo sa ht mo magawa rin namin sa ht namin napaka humble mo pa sir kya pati speaker ko ginaya kita hehehe jbl din sir ang mga speakers ko and it serves me well i think tumatakbo na sa 8 yrs pro ok pa din yan ang quality di ba sir? well sir gudluck sa madami mo pang balakin and thanks sa lahat.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontspeakers.jpg)
This is the center speaker. JBL XPL-200. Has 2 titanium drivers. Vintage na ito pero magaling pa rin. As long as you don't stress the speaker, it can last a very long time.
It's hard to over-emphasize how important the center speaker is cuz that's where the dialogue comes from and for movies, if you strain to understand the dialogue, that is such a bummer. Actually, I originally put the 2 JBL XPL-90 speakers as the center. 90 watts each kaya 180 watts total. Sa laki ng kwarto, bumibigay ang speakers kapag malakas ang volume - lalo na ang kanta ni Charlotte Church na "Danny Boy" sa first DVD niya (Voice of an Angel)! Parang mabibiyak niya ang speakers! Kaya pinalitan ko sila with the big JBL XPL-200 and its been okay since then.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Centerspeaker.jpg)
Eto ang sub. Velodyne HGS-15. Luma na pero matindi pa rin! 1250 watts. There must be a reason why Velodyne designed these subs to have so much wattage, but even in my huge room, I don't think I have ever used even half of its power. Boomy masyado ang bass kung laksan mo siya.
Update on 10 Sep 2007: I finally got the big Velodyne to clip. At the end of track 2 of the Peter Gabriel DVD, Growing Up. The whole DVD is just full of heavy bass but this was the heaviest of all. Baka 2 seconds lang pero bumigay din si Velodyne. Maybe I should get an 18". :)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Sub.jpg)
I think that when you have a home theater with as big a volume as mine, iba ang dating ng sound. Parang small auditorium vs. a tight jazz bar with low ceiling. The problem is that in order to play the system loud (which I like to do), you need really big speakers and power amps ... and you get a big electricity bill!
This is a shot of the typical speaker jacks that I use - banana plugs. As much as possible, I use the type wherein the red and black jacks are hooked together, parang twins. The reason is that kung individual ang jacks and for some reason ay natanggal ang isang jack (maybe because of vibration or nabunggo lang), pwede sya mag-short sa kabilang jack, and then putok ang power amp mo. That actually happened to me once.
I am not a great believer in super expensive interconnects or speaker cables. Basta makapal ang cable at maganda ang fit ng jack and better kung gold-plated ang jack, ok na yun.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/spkrjacks.jpg)
Insofar as jacks are concerned, this is my best friend, the Electra contact cleaner. The problem with jacks is that over time, kinakalawang and sometimes, they get loose. That is why every few months, I unplug each speaker cable and interconnect, I clean the jacks with a special cloth, I loosen and tighten speaker cables connecting to the jacks and spray the jacks with the contact cleaner. This ensures that you have good tight connections. It's very tedious - maybe 100 jacks - but I nearly always find at least one or two loose connections, which could seriously degrade your sound if not properly tightened. Furthermore, ang tagal na ng system ko and wala ako kalawang sa mga jacks.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Electra.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 20, 2011 at 06:16 AM
if ever me binabalak akong upgrade sa modest ht ko i always revisit your thread sir for inspiration and guidance ksi for me ikaw yun epitome ng standard pagdating sa ht well marami na ngayong magaganda at dedicated talagang ht na nagpopost sa pdvd pro still they are looking for you as the master of ht for guidance and advices well for that i really admire you i hope sana kahit 1/4 lang ng nagawa mo sa ht mo magawa rin namin sa ht namin napaka humble mo pa sir kya pati speaker ko ginaya kita hehehe jbl din sir ang mga speakers ko and it serves me well i think tumatakbo na sa 8 yrs pro ok pa din yan ang quality di ba sir? well sir gudluck sa madami mo pang balakin and thanks sa lahat.
Salamat sa post mo. Nagulat nga ako kasi lahat ng nasa pics, di ko na ginagamit. Pati banana plugs at contact cleaner! ;D ;D
Post by: babed95 on Feb 20, 2011 at 01:15 PM
Salamat sa post mo. Nagulat nga ako kasi lahat ng nasa pics, di ko na ginagamit. Pati banana plugs at contact cleaner! ;D ;Dlam mo naman kami sir yun luma mo bago namin ahahahah! :)
Post by: markcrenz on Feb 20, 2011 at 01:48 PM
if ever me binabalak akong upgrade sa modest ht ko i always revisit your thread sir for inspiration and guidance ksi for me ikaw yun epitome ng standard pagdating sa ht well marami na ngayong magaganda at dedicated talagang ht na nagpopost sa pdvd pro still they are looking for you as the master of ht for guidance and advices well for that i really admire you i hope sana kahit 1/4 lang ng nagawa mo sa ht mo magawa rin namin sa ht namin napaka humble mo pa sir kya pati speaker ko ginaya kita hehehe jbl din sir ang mga speakers ko and it serves me well i think tumatakbo na sa 8 yrs pro ok pa din yan ang quality di ba sir? well sir gudluck sa madami mo pang balakin and thanks sa lahat.ako may na-achieve nang 1/4 sa ht ni sir mark... yung floor area! ;D
Post by: blackie on Feb 20, 2011 at 09:10 PM
ako may na-achieve nang 1/4 sa ht ni sir mark... yung floor area! ;D
Nice one sir ;)
Post by: babed95 on Feb 21, 2011 at 01:15 PM
Post by: ESi on Feb 22, 2011 at 12:18 AM
I am eagerly awaiting to see and listen to the FOCAL EXPERIENCE! Got that HT itch again! Thanks!
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 22, 2011 at 06:04 AM
Sir Mark,
I am eagerly awaiting to see and listen to the FOCAL EXPERIENCE! Got that HT itch again! Thanks!
I've been there doc! You'll be blown away! (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 25, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 25, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Sir Mark pati pala sa golf eh parang 11.4 setup pa din ;) kasi 11 holes lang ang tinapos mo :) yung back nine namin humanap kami ng maluwag na course kasi ang bagal nung nasa south course we ended up playing our back sa executive course ;D
Hehe. Dapat gayahin mo ako. 6 a.m. ang tee-off. ;D ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 25, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Post by: SETUP™ on Feb 27, 2011 at 06:33 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Feb 27, 2011 at 09:04 AM
HAPPY BIRTHDAY SIR MARK!!
woooowwww happy bday sir mark
may God continue to bless you and your family
cheers to good health and more upgrades ;) ;)
Post by: pchin on Feb 27, 2011 at 09:28 AM
Wishing you many happy returns. ;)
Post by: juanch on Feb 27, 2011 at 09:54 AM
May you have a blessed birthday and more years and upgrades to come ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Feb 27, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Post by: jambam on Feb 27, 2011 at 10:39 AM
" HAPPY BIRTHDAY ""
Post by: praktikal on Feb 27, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Sir Mark, sana'y pagpalain kayo ng Panginoon sa iyong kaarawan. Nawa'y gabayan Niya kayo lagi para sa malakas na pangangatawan at kaligtasan.
Mabuhay ka at ang iyong pamilya kasama na ang mga kasanagkapang pang pelikula. ;)
Post by: jao143 on Feb 27, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 27, 2011 at 11:50 AM
pulot lang sa internet ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 27, 2011 at 01:53 PM
Post by: markcrenz on Feb 27, 2011 at 02:00 PM
Post by: Moks007 on Feb 27, 2011 at 04:45 PM
Post by: alvinh on Feb 27, 2011 at 05:06 PM
Happy Birthday Chief! ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Feb 27, 2011 at 05:19 PM
Post by: zedric on Feb 27, 2011 at 08:24 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 27, 2011 at 08:50 PM
Post by: Weng! on Feb 27, 2011 at 09:35 PM
Post by: ESi on Feb 27, 2011 at 09:58 PM
Post by: ricky on Feb 28, 2011 at 02:36 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2011 at 05:08 AM
Happy birthday!!! Analog na ba? ;D
Parang nagtutukso ka yata. ;D ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Feb 28, 2011 at 05:19 AM
Maganda ang analog sa FOCALS!!! ;) ;) ;)
Happy birthday!!! Analog na ba? ;D
Post by: Stagea on Feb 28, 2011 at 05:19 AM
Post by: gaol on Feb 28, 2011 at 05:40 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2011 at 06:10 AM
Happy Birthday, Sir Mark! ;) God Bless!!
Maganda ang analog sa FOCALS!!! ;) ;) ;)
Isa ka pa. Tumahimik na nga kayong mga tukso! ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Feb 28, 2011 at 06:11 AM
Uy Happy Birthday Mark! Meron ka na bang birthday gift sa sarili mo? ;) :D
Ito nga ang iniisip ko. Baka this weekend. ;D
Post by: den1224 on Feb 28, 2011 at 08:38 AM
Post by: mike c on Feb 28, 2011 at 08:49 AM
kung ang Christmas gift ni sir mark sa sarili buong set ng speakers ... ano kaya ang birthday gift? :o :o :o
magkalapit pala bday natin :)
Post by: blackie on Feb 28, 2011 at 08:51 AM
I hope it was meaningful to you and the ones most dear to you.
Cheers,
Blackie ;)
Post by: stickfighter on Feb 28, 2011 at 12:37 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Feb 28, 2011 at 09:23 PM
Parang nagtutukso ka yata. ;D ;D
Happy Birthday, Sir Mark! ;) God Bless!!
Maganda ang analog sa FOCALS!!! ;) ;) ;)
Malakas ang kutob ko. Parang nararamdaman ko. ;) Well, may mga studio master daw na plaka din naman...
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2011 at 05:05 AM
Malakas ang kutob ko. Parang nararamdaman ko. ;) Well, may mga studio master daw na plaka din naman...
Galing mo talaga. Each one of those studio masters is more than P100k. ;D
Post by: frootloops on Mar 01, 2011 at 08:53 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 01, 2011 at 08:56 AM
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Mar 01, 2011 at 09:01 AM
Belated Happy B-Day Din Po Sir Mark!... :)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 01, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 01, 2011 at 03:40 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 01, 2011 at 04:05 PM
Belated Happy Birthday Sir Mark! What is your Happy-Birthday-to-me present? (http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/3.gif)
D pa nga ako maka-decide hanggang ngayon ng birthday gift ko. ;D ;D
Ano suggestion mo?
Post by: Moks007 on Mar 01, 2011 at 05:13 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 01, 2011 at 09:03 PM
Sir, 3d na debbie movie? :D ;D Pero for sure patay ka sa wife mo. ;D
Bagay yan sa powkels. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 05:10 AM
Sir, 3d na debbie movie? :D ;D Pero for sure patay ka sa wife mo. ;D
Bagay yan sa powkels. ;D
Ganda sana nito sa X'mas EB! Eye-popping talaga ... pero baka d lang eyes mag-pop. ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 02, 2011 at 05:19 AM
D pa nga ako maka-decide hanggang ngayon ng birthday gift ko. ;D ;D
Ano suggestion mo?
limang (5) EMOTIVA NA MONOBLOCK! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 05:53 AM
limang (5) EMOTIVA NA MONOBLOCK! ;D
Kaw talaga! Akala ko ba naman kaibigan kita. You're not thinking about me. You're thinking of yourself. :'( :'(
Iniisip mo lang bilhin agad ang Emotiva 5-channel ko kapag bumili ako ng monoblocks! ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 02, 2011 at 06:10 AM
Kaw talaga! Akala ko ba naman kaibigan kita. You're not thinking about me. You're thinking of yourself. :'( :'(
Iniisip mo lang bilhin agad ang Emotiva 5-channel ko kapag bumili ako ng monoblocks! ;D ;D
yan ang payong tunay na kaibigan sir mark. sayang ang focals kung hindi nya matitikman ang sangkap para sya "mawala'!!!
sige para hindi ako mukhang vulture, try mo muna tatlo, para sa lcr, with the xpa 5 doing the wide and height chores. kakanta ang focals nyan!!! ;D ;D ;D
to be honest, wala ng i-twitweak pa sa ht nyo. pre-amp processor...check!, pj...check!, speakers...check!, subs...check!, sources and software...check!
when you were asking ano bday gift mo sa sarili mo, wala na talaga akong maisip for ht bu the power aspect or as sabi ng iba, mag analog ka, pero hindi ka naman ma audio... :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 02, 2011 at 06:15 AM
yan ang payong tunay na kaibigan sir mark. sayang ang focals kung hindi nya matitikman ang sangkap para sya "mawala'!!!ayun naman pala eh :)
sige para hindi ako mukhang vulture, try mo muna tatlo, para sa lcr, with the xpa 5 doing the wide and height chores. kakanta ang focals nyan!!! ;D ;D ;D
to be honest, wala ng i-twitweak pa sa ht nyo. pre-amp processor...check!, pj...check!, speakers...check!, subs...check!, sources and software...check!
when you were asking ano bday gift mo sa sarili mo, wala na talaga akong maisip for ht bu the power aspect or as sabi ng iba, mag analog ka, pero hindi ka naman ma audio... :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 08:27 AM
yan ang payong tunay na kaibigan sir mark. sayang ang focals kung hindi nya matitikman ang sangkap para sya "mawala'!!!
sige para hindi ako mukhang vulture, try mo muna tatlo, para sa lcr, with the xpa 5 doing the wide and height chores. kakanta ang focals nyan!!! ;D ;D ;D
to be honest, wala ng i-twitweak pa sa ht nyo. pre-amp processor...check!, pj...check!, speakers...check!, subs...check!, sources and software...check!
when you were asking ano bday gift mo sa sarili mo, wala na talaga akong maisip for ht bu the power aspect or as sabi ng iba, mag analog ka, pero hindi ka naman ma audio... :)
Pinag-isipan ko na iyan ng maigi. My Aragon and Bryston amps are probably just about as good as the Emotivas, especially if you look at the power supplies and capacitance.
Sa audio, I've actually revived my CD collection kasi I'm rediscovering it! Ang ganda pala ng ibang CD ko.
Nag-isip din talaga ako ng turntable dahil sa isang tukso dito sa Pinoydvd but after a while, I decided it's better to go to multi-channel audio.
Meanwhile, ito na lang ang iniisip ko. Pwedeng LCR, pwede ring LCR + Wides. :)
(http://www.ultimateavmag.com/images/Focal-Viva-Utopia.jpg)
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 02, 2011 at 08:35 AM
(http://www.ultimateavmag.com/images/Focal-Viva-Utopia.jpg)
ang ganda naman ng speakers na ito :) pati yung finish ganda din :D
Post by: John E. on Mar 02, 2011 at 08:47 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 10:02 AM
ang bilis ng panahon! parang last year lang andyan kami. naalala ko pa yung sushi, red wine, harutan at tawanan at yung mga persian ladies on the big screen! belated happy birthday sir mark! wish you all the best for you birthday!
Hehe. Ang galing talaga ng memory mo. Pati persian ladies naalala mo. ;D ;D
Post by: Weng! on Mar 02, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Pinag-isipan ko na iyan ng maigi. My Aragon and Bryston amps are probably just about as good as the Emotivas, especially if you look at the power supplies and capacitance.
Sa audio, I've actually revived my CD collection kasi I'm rediscovering it! Ang ganda pala ng ibang CD ko.
Nag-isip din talaga ako ng turntable dahil sa isang tukso dito sa Pinoydvd but after a while, I decided it's better to go to multi-channel audio.
Meanwhile, ito na lang ang iniisip ko. Pwedeng LCR, pwede ring LCR + Wides. :)
(http://www.ultimateavmag.com/images/Focal-Viva-Utopia.jpg)
birthday upgrade na ba ito sir mark? ang ganda ng finish ng powkel LCR. mag piano (glossy) finish na all the way >:D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 11:29 AM
birthday upgrade na ba ito sir mark? ang ganda ng finish ng powkel LCR. mag piano (glossy) finish na all the way >:D
Pinag-iisipan pa lang syempre. ;D
Ngayon ko lang kasi nakita itong speakers. Really designed for multi-channel audio.
Post by: iiinas on Mar 02, 2011 at 12:43 PM
Pinag-iisipan pa lang syempre. ;D
Ngayon ko lang kasi nakita itong speakers. Really designed for multi-channel audio.
hehehe, sino kaya pipila sa current focal line-up mo sir mark.... ::) ::)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 12:50 PM
hehehe, sino kaya pipila sa current focal line-up mo sir mark.... ::) ::)
Meron na. Probinsyanong matangkad. ;D
Pwede rin isang pares nito, combined with Viva Utopia for the center:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbjagGKMSv9U1MNWzKYIiWtIUoOl-G_AtJM2buQyJBtOdB9DoFvg)
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 02, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Meron na. Probinsyanong matangkad. ;D
Pwede rin isang pares nito, combined with Viva Utopia for the center:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbjagGKMSv9U1MNWzKYIiWtIUoOl-G_AtJM2buQyJBtOdB9DoFvg)
mukhang taga norte yang matangkad na yan ah ::)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:02 PM
mukhang taga norte yang matangkad na yan ah ::)
Yup. Kilalang kilala ni Christian. ;D ;D
Post by: praktikal on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:20 PM
Meron na. Probinsyanong matangkad. ;D
ganito ba pinto nya?
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Jay2-Cinemax-21.jpg)
:)
Post by: iiinas on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:27 PM
Meron na. Probinsyanong matangkad. ;D
Pwede rin isang pares nito, combined with Viva Utopia for the center:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbjagGKMSv9U1MNWzKYIiWtIUoOl-G_AtJM2buQyJBtOdB9DoFvg)
matindi! ;D
ibang klase nga ang kapalit, parang legs ni optimus prime!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:30 PM
ganito ba pinto nya?
Hehe. Parang ganun nga yata. ;D ;D
Tuwing X'mas EB, ang exchange gift niya ay sobrang gaan - isang sako ng bigas. ;D
Post by: praktikal on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:31 PM
Hehe. Parang ganun nga yata. ;D ;D
Tuwing X'mas EB, ang exchange gift niya ay sobrang gaan - isang sako ng bigas. ;D
ngak!!! ;D :D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:33 PM
(http://www.ultimateavmag.com/images/Focal-Viva-Utopia.jpg)
Ang problema nitong speakers ay hanggang ngayon, wala pang stock sa Pilipinas kaya wala pang nakakarinig sa kanya. Parang ang hirap bilhin kung di mo alam ang tunog.
Ung nasa ibang picture, ung pula, meron dito. Kaya lang, wala namang center.
Post by: praktikal on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:34 PM
parang legs ni optimus prime!
mismo! hanep ka talaga sir Mark! sabi nga sa kabilang thread, parang toothbrush lang ang gears... ;)
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 02, 2011 at 02:26 PM
by that time pag punta ko sa inyo, magdadala na ako ng malaking tuwalya pang punas ng laway ko hehe ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 02, 2011 at 02:31 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 02, 2011 at 03:19 PM
mismo! hanep ka talaga sir Mark! sabi nga sa kabilang thread, parang toothbrush lang ang gears... ;)
cge nga sir mark kumuha ka na para makarinig din kami ng mga tulad nyan ;D ;D
by that time pag punta ko sa inyo, magdadala na ako ng malaking tuwalya pang punas ng laway ko hehe ;D
Kailangang maswerte ako para makuha ito. Sana. :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 02, 2011 at 04:39 PM
Meron na. Probinsyanong matangkad. ;D
Pwede rin isang pares nito, combined with Viva Utopia for the center:
(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRbjagGKMSv9U1MNWzKYIiWtIUoOl-G_AtJM2buQyJBtOdB9DoFvg)
ayos one year supply ng bigas ang bonus sa pag bili ng focals
congrats na agad sa taga probinsya na ito
at congrats din sir mark sa napaka gwapong kapalit na yan ;) ;)
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 03, 2011 at 08:19 AM
(http://www.hookedontronicsbuys.com/brands/rockford_fosgate/rfity_1m_149_200.jpg)
Post by: ricky on Mar 03, 2011 at 08:56 AM
matindi! ;D
ibang klase nga ang kapalit, parang legs ni optimus prime!
Oo nga , ang ganda tignan, kahit hindi patugtugin sulit na sulit sa looks pa lang ;) go go go :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 03, 2011 at 09:10 AM
Sir Mark maraming maraming salamat dito!!!
(http://www.hookedontronicsbuys.com/brands/rockford_fosgate/rfity_1m_149_200.jpg)
You're welcome! Dami ko kasi y-adapter. :)
Post by: macdon on Mar 03, 2011 at 09:34 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 09, 2011 at 10:17 PM
Post by: blackie on Mar 10, 2011 at 05:54 AM
Maraming salamat kay dts-HD 3D & Setup! Laking tulong! I owe you guys! :) :)
Anong kalikot kaya ang ginawa ni Luther at Christian??? ::) ::) ::)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 06:14 AM
Anong kalikot kaya ang ginawa ni Luther at Christian??? ::) ::) ::)
Nagtulong magbuhat. 430 pounds x 2.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0259.jpg)
Post by: blackie on Mar 10, 2011 at 06:31 AM
Nagtulong magbuhat. 430 pounds x 2.:o :o :o :o :o
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0259.jpg)
I wonder..... ::) ::) ::)
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 10, 2011 at 06:34 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 10, 2011 at 08:42 AM
Nagtulong magbuhat. 430 pounds x 2.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0259.jpg)
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Post by: XXXyzledge on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:21 AM
Nagtulong magbuhat. 430 pounds x 2.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0259.jpg)
whoah! :o :o :o
ano kaya laman nyan?
si debbie? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Weng! on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:24 AM
whoah! :o :o :o
ano kaya laman nyan?
si debbie? ;D ;D ;D
i'm sure it's a high end audio gear. crate palang naka "CE" stamp na ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:28 AM
whoah! :o :o :o
ano kaya laman nyan?
si debbie? ;D ;D ;D
Hehe. Mukha ngang ataul. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:29 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0260.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0264.jpg)
Post by: jao143 on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:36 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:40 AM
It took about 2 hours and 5 people to bring the speakers to my 3rd floor. I didn’t realize till yesterday that the crates themselves weigh 180 pounds each so the combined weight of speaker and crate is more than 430 pounds.
The first thing I noticed about the Maestros is that they are more efficient than my previous front speakers, the Electra 1037 Be. Even if, based on the specifications, they are supposed to have the same efficiency, when we removed the 1037’s and connected the Maestros, I had to reduce their trims by about 2 db.
I finally got to do a serious Audyssey Pro calibration late last night (I can only do it late in the evening because of ambient noise). Audyssey Pro produces a “Before” and “After” frequency response chart so I knew that, based on the charts of the Electra 1037 Be, there would be a mid to upper bass hump, probably because the front speakers are so close to the wall. The Maestro has an external jumper which you can use to adjust the bass, mids and highs. We moved the jumper of the Maestro so as to reduce the bass. Nonetheless, the bass hump detected by Audyssey was still huge, up to around 13 db at around 90 to 100 Hz, which is the crossover point (with the Electra, the hump was around 8 db). Without the Audyssey filter, the speaker is too boomy for my room. With the Audyssey filter, the speaker performance is pretty good.
The Maestro has a true subwoofer. It has 2 x 11" woofers and one of them is dedicated to 90 Hz to as low as 25 Hz. That's better than some subwoofers.
Against all of my previous thinking, I have set the Maestros as “large” speakers without any crossover to the subs (but only by default, because for watching movies, I can shift the crossover to 80 Hz). The reason for this is that in our preliminary listening tests, the bass of the Maestros seems to have more detailed harmonics than my subwoofers. Of course, this creates another problem, which is that the power amp is now under a bit of strain ...
Based on reviews that I’ve read, I was expecting the Maestros to have an excellent performance with drums. They did not disappoint. All sorts of drums sound so different now because you can hear much more detail.
The highs were a big surprise to me. I thought that the tweeters of the Electra 1037 Be were incredible. The tweeter of the Maestro is 2 generations ahead of the Electra 1037 Be and it shows. Cymbals have much better shimmer and air. The high frequency extension is incredible and yet, it is smooth, not shrill.
The mids are also a surprise. In my DVD of “Fosse”, there’s a scene from “Sweet Charity” with around 8 girls talking sequentially. I’ve watched that DVD and that scene numerous times but now, the voices of the girls sound much clearer and more natural. This is true in general for all vocals, whether male or female.
The stereo image is huge. Those 2 speakers fill my room with a very natural and relaxed sound. The improvement in sound is not subtle.
Obviously, I have a lot more listening to do but initially, I have found that for a lot of my concert videos, stereo sounds better because there is much more detail and naturalness in the sound produced by the Maestros. Multi-channel provides a bigger soundstage and listener envelopment but in most cases, this is trumped by the incredible performance of the Maestros. So far, I have found that only on concerts with a full orchestra is multi-channel better. Perhaps the Viva Utopia would help? Probably. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:44 AM
Sabi nga ni Luther, ito ang mas bagay na speakers sa kwarto.
Post by: kefq on Mar 10, 2011 at 09:49 AM
Post by: Conan on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:09 AM
padinig naman ;D . . Congrats sir Mark :)
Neighbor! Daan ka mamaya, mga 5:30 pm siguro. Nandun uli si Hansen. Txt ka or PM.
Post by: kefq on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Neighbor! Daan ka mamaya, mga 5:30 pm siguro. Nandun uli si Hansen. Txt ka or PM.
Neighbor coding ako kaya 7PM pa ako makakaalis sa makati. pm kita or sa upcoming ehem nalang ;)
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Post by: frootloops on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Baka magbago na din ang subject to ..................... ::) ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:55 AM
Thanks for having us sir mark, what can i say..ibang level na talaga! sir mark,malaki talaga ang jump ng sound qualities ng maestro's, the two alone can fill the whole room! pero sabi ng namin ni brader luther may igaganda pa pag... ah ::), enjoy mo muna nga hehe. congrats on your greatest acquisition :o looking forward sa center channel speaker that would compliment the size of your maestro's ;) salamat po ulit :)
Aba ano naman kayo ito ... monoblocks yata iniisip nyo o kaya VTL tube amps. ;D
No way ... :)
Baka Emotiva monoblocks na lang. Value for money yun.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Congrats senor Mark! Im sure this is just a start of series of changes to happen..from this to that and so on. ;)
Baka magbago na din ang subject to ..................... ::) ;D
Isa pa ito ... turntable? Ayoko. Masyado mahal, lalo na ang bala, and I don't think I will appreciate it.
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 10, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Post by: juanch on Mar 10, 2011 at 11:18 AM
upgrading so soon sir Mark, Nice!!!
The Maestros look incredible.
Can't wait to see your HT again.
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 10, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Mar 10, 2011 at 11:57 AM
It’s only been in my dreams that I imagined that I could one day own a Focal Utopia. That dream is now a reality. This is the Focal Maestro Utopia. It's huge and heavy.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0260.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0264.jpg)
wooot! woooot !!!
ang lufet mo mark!
congrats !!
Post by: mike c on Mar 10, 2011 at 12:00 PM
instead of 80hz crossover or Large ... meron pang 40hz crossover na option :)
Post by: Stagea on Mar 10, 2011 at 01:51 PM
Kakabitan na ba ng dedicated system yan? ;D
Post by: kt on Mar 10, 2011 at 02:35 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:12 PM
congrats! ganda niyan a.
instead of 80hz crossover or Large ... meron pang 40hz crossover na option :)
Yes, but the problem is the amp. Kung sine, pwedeng matindi pa rin ang power requirement ng 40 Hz. Meanwhile, either large (with music) or 80 Hz with movies.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:13 PM
Wow! Ganda naman! Congrats sa new speakers sir Mark!
Kakabitan na ba ng dedicated system yan? ;D
That's not the plan. I've always wanted a music-movies setup in one. Ayoko ng separate setup.
Post by: Weng! on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:18 PM
It’s only been in my dreams that I imagined that I could one day own a Focal Utopia. That dream is now a reality. This is the Focal Maestro Utopia. It's huge and heavy.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0260.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0264.jpg)
correct talaga ang hula ko, super high end powkels. congrat sir mark ;)
sinong naka pila sa previous set?
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:24 PM
correct talaga ang hula ko, super high end powkels. congrat sir mark ;)
sinong naka pila sa previous set?
Trade-in so nasa AV Driver siya.
Post by: praktikal on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:28 PM
ibang klase! bow talaga ako syo Sir Mark. ;)
Post by: Wildfire™ on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:35 PM
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Focal is a pretty unusual company because it is one of the very few that designs and fabricates nearly its entire speaker line, from the tweeters to the woofers to the magnets and even the cabinets. The Utopia line is very special because it uses all the most advanced technology and inventions of Focal, including the inverted Beryllium tweeter.
Wow ganda sir mark and hindi pala ma nacclone yan, congrats
Post by: Clondalkin on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:44 PM
Tomorrow perhaps German Utopia.
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Mar 10, 2011 at 03:45 PM
Post by: frootloops on Mar 10, 2011 at 06:40 PM
Isa pa ito ... turntable? Ayoko. Masyado mahal, lalo na ang bala, and I don't think I will appreciate it.
Actually icing on the cake na lang yang TT....just in case you decide to pero since you are not.....
Yes, but the problem is the amp. Kung sine, pwedeng matindi pa rin ang power requirement ng 40 Hz. Meanwhile, either large (with music) or 80 Hz with movies.
;D
..tapos makakakita na kami diyan ng mahahabang sawa, tapos hospital grade na outlets, tapos................. ;D
Seriously, that is the best sounding speaker I heard during the last 2 HiFi Show's at the Mandarin. Alam mo ba senor Mark kung ano amp gamit nila during the show?
Sayang paubos na Hybrid CD's ko....sampolan sana natin. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 07:06 PM
..tapos makakakita na kami diyan ng mahahabang sawa, tapos hospital grade na outlets, tapos................. ;D
Seriously, that is the best sounding speaker I heard during the last 2 HiFi Show's at the Mandarin. Alam mo ba senor Mark kung ano amp gamit nila during the show?
Sayang paubos na Hybrid CD's ko....sampolan sana natin. ;)
Hehe. ;D
You are only partially correct. Inaayos ko breaker and wiring ko sa HT. Dumadami na kasi equipment and parang kulang ang kapal ng wires. Pero d ako naniniwala sa mga sawa na wires para sa interconnects, speaker wires and even power cords. Ok na sa akin ang Raon wires o kaya ang suggestion ni JojoD -- THHN. ;D
Alam ko ang amps na ginamit nila - VTL tube amps. D naman ako naniniwala sa ganyan. Ang ambisyon ko is Emotiva monoblocks. 1000 watts @ 4 ohms. Yun ang matibay and value for money. Kailangan talaga ng 1000 watts kasi parang may subwoofer ang Maestro. Meanwhile, ingat ako when watching movies or heavy orchestra.
I think that my speakers sound at least as good and probably even better than during the Hifi show. Wala naman kasing acoustic treatment ang kwarto sa Hifi show. Wala rin silang EQ. Dala ka ng magandang CD, preferably with exceptional highs. Magugulat ka cuz you will hear things you never heard before. PM mo lang ako. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 10, 2011 at 07:12 PM
Now in French Utopia.
Tomorrow perhaps German Utopia.
German Physics? D siguro.
Firstly, biased ako for the French kasi marami akong friends na French and I've visited France many times. Secondly, their food and wine are much better. Thirdly, my name is French. ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 11, 2011 at 01:05 AM
I had a great time sir Mark thanks for inviting me over.
Here's my short impression: With just the 2 speakers playing, the room was effortlessly filled w/ crisp, detailed sound, smooth and not shrill. Walang overdone na high frequencies kaya sarap makinig. Very natural sounding lalo tunog ng drums and the imaging is great. Depth is well-defined compared to the Elektras parang 3D itong Maestro. The separation of every instrument is more distinct.
Tama ang sabi ni Setup . . . pwede na uli i-feature sa Jessica Soho. :o :o
Congrats sir mark! parang marriage made in heaven ang Dream theater + Utopia :D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 11, 2011 at 05:42 AM
I had a great time sir Mark thanks for inviting me over.
Here's my short impression: With just the 2 speakers playing, the room was effortlessly filled w/ crisp, detailed sound, smooth and not shrill. Walang overdone na high frequencies kaya sarap makinig. Very natural sounding lalo tunog ng drums and the imaging is great. Depth is well-defined compared to the Elektras parang 3D itong Maestro. The separation of every instrument is more distinct.
Tama ang sabi ni Setup . . . pwede na uli i-feature sa Jessica Soho. :o :o
Congrats sir mark! parang marriage made in heaven ang Dream theater + Utopia :D
Thanks for the review, Luther! It's truly an incredible speaker and it seems to be a perfect match for the room. Kulang na lang ang center speaker and power amps. :)
Post by: vgsison on Mar 11, 2011 at 07:46 AM
Post by: iiinas on Mar 11, 2011 at 04:08 PM
Naku! pag narinig ni kagawad ayns yan.. ;D ;D kagawad, Emotiva monoblocks na daw ;D ;D
hehehe, sayang, hindi ako nakapunta sa audi na yan. it must have been something else!
monoblocks!!! lima kaagad... ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 11, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 11, 2011 at 04:38 PM
hehehe, sayang, hindi ako nakapunta sa audi na yan. it must have been something else!
monoblocks!!! lima kaagad... ;D
ahem.. second in line sa emo after kagawad ayns ;D ;D
Aba aba ... Parang vultures ang dalawang neighbors ko. Sigurado ba kayo na walang nauna sa inyo mag-reserve? ;D ;D
Aynz, sayang wala ka sa audi. The sound is really incredible. Natural and huge.
Post by: iiinas on Mar 11, 2011 at 05:00 PM
Aba aba ... Parang vultures ang dalawang neighbors ko. Sigurado ba kayo na walang nauna sa inyo mag-reserve? ;D ;D
Aynz, sayang wala ka sa audi. The sound is really incredible. Natural and huge.
oo nga, sagabal kasi yung trabaho... :D
anyway, sa next session an dun ako. ;D
regarding the emotiva... ika nga ni sir jake. dam di dam di dam... ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Mar 11, 2011 at 07:20 PM
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 11, 2011 at 07:37 PM
Aba aba ... Parang vultures ang dalawang neighbors ko. Sigurado ba kayo na walang nauna sa inyo mag-reserve? ;D ;D
Aynz, sayang wala ka sa audi. The sound is really incredible. Natural and huge.
sir Mark parang kilala ko yang nagpareserve ng EMO.... ::) bihira magpost pero mabilis mag-text from south.... ;D
I Wish and Always in my Dreams that bullet day (per brader Tirso) got a chance to experience your Awesome Theater... " All I can Say... The BEST! " :o :o :o :)
Post by: dukesociety on Mar 11, 2011 at 08:48 PM
congrats!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2011 at 05:04 AM
Congratz, sir marK! With the Utopias....looks like there's something inevitable coming!!! 8) 8) 8)
Hehe! Isa ka pang tukso! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2011 at 05:05 AM
sir Mark parang kilala ko yang nagpareserve ng EMO.... ::) bihira magpost pero mabilis mag-text from south.... ;D
I Wish and Always in my Dreams that bullet day (per brader Tirso) got a chance to experience your Awesome Theater... " All I can Say... The BEST! " :o :o :o :)
Kapag napauwi ka, PM ka lang para makabisita ka. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 12, 2011 at 05:10 AM
best sounding speakers i've heard last hk hifi show powered by mcintosh. eto ba yung grand utopia sir?
congrats!
Nope. The Grande Utopia is 7 feet high and is recommended for rooms with a minimum area of 65 square meters. My room is around 45 square meters. It's too big ... and too expensive. ;D
I have a Maestro Utopia which is 58" high. It's just right for the room. Not too big, not too small. The AV Driver tech has installed a Grande Utopia and he said the Maestro, in my room, sounds even better. I'm sure that's because of my acoustic treatment and the electronic room correction.
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 12, 2011 at 07:51 AM
Another great great upgrade sir Mark ;)
I'm now so excited to see and hear it these babies this coming Saturday!
Post by: Cjtjader on Mar 12, 2011 at 08:05 PM
Hehe! Isa ka pang tukso! ;D
You might be surprised as to what you can hear with your Utopias in 2ch rig!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: dukesociety on Mar 12, 2011 at 09:14 PM
Post by: audiojunkie on Mar 12, 2011 at 09:28 PM
Kapag napauwi ka, PM ka lang para makabisita ka. :)
Thanks Sir Mark 'will do that. :)
Malate was my old neighbourhood. When I was in collede, my bro & I rented a room at Gen.Malvar St. opposite PCU ext. next to Pitoy Moreno's house, but that was decades ago. ...;D ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Mar 13, 2011 at 04:38 AM
I know that I'm not in the position to comment, but I have a very silly idea. ;D How about situating your upcoming monoblocks right beside each speaker for maximum damping? Something like the AVP-A1HDCI connected to these amps via balanced interconnects (XLR) should minimize losses. That's an extreme setup to match those superlative speakers.
Sorry, I was just thinking aloud. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 13, 2011 at 06:25 AM
sir, sa ht mo lang ba gamit yan? you have to hear it sa music, with a proper amp parang may performance sa loob ng room mo.
I have designed my system precisely for BOTH music and ht. So far, I have been using it mainly for stereo and multi-channel music ... and the AV Driver tech (who has owned 5 Sonus Faber speakers) says that it's close to the best that he has ever heard among 2-channel rigs.
With regard to the amp, please read the ff article. http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_4_4/aragon8008bb.html
Having said that, I feel that this amp doesn't have enough power so I will likely upgrade it. Nevertheless, at normal volumes, the amp has no problem whatsoever.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 13, 2011 at 06:26 AM
You might be surprised as to what you can hear with your Utopias in 2ch rig!!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
That's exactly what I'd like to see soon -- an Avid turntable & tube amps driving the Utopias. See and hear lang, not buy. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 13, 2011 at 06:29 AM
Sir Mark,
I know that I'm not in the position to comment, but I have a very silly idea. ;D How about situating your upcoming monoblocks right beside each speaker for maximum damping? Something like the AVP-A1HDCI connected to these amps via balanced interconnects (XLR) should minimize losses. That's an extreme setup to match those superlative speakers.
Sorry, I was just thinking aloud. :)
Unfortunately, the Denon 4311 doesn't have balanced outs. In any case, I don't really think there's a problem, given that I'm using gauge 10 speaker wire.
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 13, 2011 at 06:45 AM
German Physics? D siguro.
Firstly, biased ako for the French kasi marami akong friends na French and I've visited France many times. Secondly, their food and wine are much better. Thirdly, my name is French. ;D ;D
Oh I love the French, their language is like an aphrodisiac. ;D
Thankfully, my wife speaks French... :D
Post by: Stagea on Mar 14, 2011 at 04:51 AM
Unfortunately, the Denon 4311 doesn't have balanced outs. In any case, I don't really think there's a problem, given that I'm using gauge 10 speaker wire.
That's also true, sir. Those wires are beefy enough for most situations, plus the processing can make up for changes in response from DF change. I'm just a bit OC with DF (I know a lot of people don't believe in this).
This is what I was thinking: AWG 10 copper speaker wires will have a total resistance of about 1 ohm per 150m (To/From). A 30m run would be about 0.2 ohm. Given that the wire impedance would be stable at 0.2 ohm across the frequency range: If the speaker's impedance drops to 2 ohms in certain ranges, there would be times when the DF might get as low as 10 (even with a perfect amplifier). If the wire runs between speakers are of widely different lengths, then this can cause minute differences in output (OC mode again).
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 14, 2011 at 05:05 AM
That's also true, sir. Those wires are beefy enough for most situations, plus the processing can make up for changes in response from DF change. I'm just a bit OC with DF (I know a lot of people don't believe in this).
This is what I was thinking: AWG 10 copper speaker wires will have a total resistance of about 1 ohm per 150m (To/From). A 30m run would be about 0.2 ohm. Given that the wire impedance would be stable at 0.2 ohm across the frequency range: If the speaker's impedance drops to 2 ohms in certain ranges, there would be times when the DF might get as low as 10 (even with a perfect amplifier). If the wire runs between speakers are of widely different lengths, then this can cause minute differences in output (OC mode again).
Hehe. When I first installed the wires for the front speakers, more than 12 years ago, I made sure that they were of the same length. I really don't think it matters much and so it's likely not audible but if it doesn't cost much, doing it doesn't harm you either. ;D ;D
Lately, I've been busy playing with the Oppo BDP-80, primarily for the digital SACD output (in either DSD or PCM) and the flexible video outputs (for example, it's one of the very few players wherein you can select Color Space). This is the first time I've heard digital multi-channel SACD output and I think it's pretty awesome. Another different experience in Listener Envelopment.
Post by: alvinh on Mar 14, 2011 at 12:43 PM
It’s only been in my dreams that I imagined that I could one day own a Focal Utopia. That dream is now a reality. This is the Focal Maestro Utopia. It's huge and heavy.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0260.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0264.jpg)
Gotta hear this on Saturday! Wuhoooooo! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Mar 14, 2011 at 04:42 PM
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_M2Has3dz1Zk/SvaeS2yWrMI/AAAAAAAAAOM/ulliyUxoieo/s800/P1040443.JPG)
This is a straight Bryston setup driving Scala Utopia speakers in the 2009 HiFi Show (picture borrowed from WS).
I'm sure sir Mark's Maestros won't disappoint any attendee this Saturday. :) Have fun guys. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 14, 2011 at 05:26 PM
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/11/88/38/44/dsc_0071.jpg)
Post by: Superman on Mar 14, 2011 at 05:37 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 14, 2011 at 05:51 PM
Congrats sir Mark! 8)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 14, 2011 at 06:37 PM
They have 2 x 11" woofers and one of them handles frequencies from 25 Hz to 90 Hz. In other words, one of the drivers acts as a true subwoofer.
The problem is that the speakers are acting as fronts and subwoofers and these have different requirements for location. You need to locate the fronts for the best imaging. You need to locate the subs for the deepest extension, without boominess.
In my room, without any Audyssey MultEQ room correction, the speakers are incredibly boomy. With the room correction applied, the speakers are excellent. In most "audiophile" rooms, however, there's no electronic room correction and unless these rooms are huge and have very good acoustic treatment, the speakers will be boomy.
If you have speakers like these, you need a huge room (so you can locate the speakers far from walls and you have lots and lots of location options) or you use electronic room correction like Audyssey MultEQ. My room is already pretty huge and yet, it's not big enough for these speakers and that's why electronic room correction is needed.
Post by: dukesociety on Mar 14, 2011 at 09:58 PM
picture only taken by phone so bear with the quality.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1584436454790
some more pictures here:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2073280&id=1352126987
Post by: juanch on Mar 14, 2011 at 10:01 PM
Post by: Stagea on Mar 14, 2011 at 10:27 PM
Actually, these are the Maestro Utopias in the 2010 Hifi Show. AV Driver brought in only one pair and that's the one that I have.
Congrats again. :) I've heard that system too, and I also love that setup. I prefer the straight SS Bryston sound over the Avid + VTL combo, though. I'm a sucker for deep soundstages with profound layering... something I encounter more often with higher-end SS gear versus the wide and diffused soundstage that I perceive with most valve gear (albeit the airier and more euphonic presentation of the latter). The typically higher damping factor and current capacity also makes gear matching easier. I know I might get flamed for saying these.
I think valve gear can hide CD's imperfections quite well, but I prefer SS with studio master / dvd-a / sacd / vinyl (of course, that's just me). :) Tubes have their advantages as well, and I appreciate them too. I just prefer SS, overall.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 15, 2011 at 05:34 AM
just want to share the utopia set-up i've heard last year's hk hifi show. best set up so far last year.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1584436454790
Thanks for the pics! :)
That's the Stella Utopia EM. The main difference is that it can go down to 22 Hz while the Maestro goes down to 25 Hz.
What's more interesting for me is that huge center speaker in the back. That's the Viva Utopia. Yun ang gusto ko. :) :) ;D ;D
Post by: dukesociety on Mar 15, 2011 at 07:57 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 15, 2011 at 08:15 AM
oh! ngayon ko lang nalaman na marami palang variants yang FS na utopia :) when i saw your speaks, kala ko yan din yun.
Magkaiba ang drivers. Mas mataas din ang Stella. I haven't heard the Stellas yet but I suspect they're very similar to the Maestros but they can go deeper and they are designed for bigger rooms, tipong mga 50 to 60 square meters.
Mapapansin mo sa Maestro, napupuno niya ang kwarto kahit stereo lang and parang di sya hirap, kahit laksan mo volume.
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 15, 2011 at 09:37 AM
Post by: Stagea on Mar 15, 2011 at 03:19 PM
sir mark baka next bday mo grande utopia na... :o :o
Oo nga no.... Grande Utopia EM. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 15, 2011 at 07:13 PM
sir mark baka next bday mo grande utopia na... :o :o
Hehe. Yun talaga ang tapon ng pera. The Grande Utopia EM is 7' high and is designed for rooms that are 65 sq meters or larger. It has a 16" woofer and can go down to 18 Hz. Before I buy that, I should build a new house! My room is too small. ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Mar 17, 2011 at 08:10 AM
Hehe. Yun talaga ang tapon ng pera. The Grande Utopia EM is 7' high and is designed for rooms that are 65 sq meters or larger. It has a 16" woofer and can go down to 18 Hz. Before I buy that, I should build a new house! My room is too small. ;D
New house? Magastos yan sir. Masmatipid kung mag-add ka na lang ng 1/2 storey para maging mini movie house na. May balcony na. Tipid pa. ;D
Post by: CARLITOCOOL on Mar 17, 2011 at 09:15 AM
And congrats on the Focal Meastro Utopia sir! Astig speakers!
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 17, 2011 at 11:52 AM
Hehe. Yun talaga ang tapon ng pera. The Grande Utopia EM is 7' high and is designed for rooms that are 65 sq meters or larger. It has a 16" woofer and can go down to 18 Hz. Before I buy that, I should build a new house! My room is too small. ;D
is this a sign that there is something bigger to come :o
Post by: ESi on Mar 17, 2011 at 04:42 PM
Before I buy that, I should build a new house! My room is too small. ;D
Who among you disagree? There goes the neighborhood! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 17, 2011 at 04:51 PM
Who among you disagree? There goes the neighborhood! :D
Hehe. Hi Doc! Kelan ka bisita? :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 18, 2011 at 09:04 AM
Actually, these are the Maestro Utopias in the 2010 Hifi Show. AV Driver brought in only one pair and that's the one that I have.
(http://i68.servimg.com/u/f68/11/88/38/44/dsc_0071.jpg)
HUWAW!
bagong isfekers na naman sir mark!
naman naman! hmmmm... parang di bagay ang emotiva diyan sir mark! ahihihi!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 18, 2011 at 09:40 AM
Aba aba ... Parang vultures ang dalawang neighbors ko. Sigurado ba kayo na walang nauna sa inyo mag-reserve? ;D ;D
Aynz, sayang wala ka sa audi. The sound is really incredible. Natural and huge.
oo nga, sagabal kasi yung trabaho... :D
anyway, sa next session an dun ako. ;D
regarding the emotiva... ika nga ni sir jake. dam di dam di dam... ;D
ayun oh! huling hule! langya! ang hirap talaga ng malayo!
brader iiinas naunahan mo ako! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
dam - di - dam - di - dam!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 18, 2011 at 09:56 AM
ayun oh! huling hule! langya! ang hirap talaga ng malayo!
brader iiinas naunahan mo ako! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
dam - di - dam - di - dam!!!
Hehe ... d pa naman sure iyon and it will take time. A few months. ;D
Sige, #3 ka sa reservation list. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 18, 2011 at 10:01 AM
Hehe ... d pa naman sure iyon and it will take time. A few months. ;D
Sige, #3 ka sa reservation list. ;D
aba aba at meron pa isang pumila! ::)
Post by: iiinas on Mar 18, 2011 at 09:56 PM
ayun oh! huling hule! langya! ang hirap talaga ng malayo!
brader iiinas naunahan mo ako! waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!
dam - di - dam - di - dam!!!
lamang talaga ang malapit sa diyos... ;D
but got to hear the maestros.... we tried some flac files then some sacd and dvd audio multi channel... then the kicker... hi-end tt (bukas nyo na malaman yung brand) powered by jdlab's monoblock amps and lightspeed preamp... sounds heavenly!
eb attendees will be in for a real sonic treat.... ika nga ear candy!!!
see you guys... late ako bukas... :(
Post by: Cjtjader on Mar 18, 2011 at 10:07 PM
lamang talaga ang malapit sa diyos... ;D
but got to hear the maestros.... we tried some flac files then some sacd and dvd audio multi channel... then the kicker... hi-end tt (bukas nyo na malaman yung brand) powered by jdlab's monoblock amps and lightspeed preamp... sounds heavenly!
eb attendees will be in for a real sonic treat.... ika nga ear candy!!!
see you guys... late ako bukas... :(
+100 :D :D
I was there yesterday to set up the JD labs + Lightspeed Pre (minus the TT).... Maestros live up to its name! ;) ;) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 18, 2011 at 10:31 PM
see you all guys
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 19, 2011 at 06:20 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0272.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0281.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0280.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0291.jpg)
All photos courtesy of the master --- Iiinas!
Post by: XXXyzledge on Mar 19, 2011 at 08:57 AM
Maganda talaga tunog ng hi-end TT with Jojo D's monoblocks and preamp but rather than describe it, I really prefer that people listen to it na lang.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0272.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0281.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0280.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0291.jpg)
All photos courtesy of the master --- Iiinas!
huwwaaaawww!!
papasok na sa analog audio si mark!
advanced congrats sir! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: anchit on Mar 19, 2011 at 06:10 PM
congrats sir!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 19, 2011 at 08:01 PM
I hope I haven't forgotten anyone:
1. Blackie
2. Iiinas
3. Alvinh
4. Cjtjader
5. Brian_mico
6. Onkyo606
7. Dayday
8. Narayan
9. Setup
10. Kefq
11. Juancho
12. Vtec3
13. Yygoob
14. Saxman
15. JojoD818
16. Stickfighter
17. Marge
18. Firestorm
19. Dts-HD 3d
20. Hansen
21. Ditoy_eagle
22. Timber715
23. Mandyb
24. Friend of Tirso
25. Friend of Hansen
Pics coming from Stickfighter and Blackie! :) :)
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 19, 2011 at 08:37 PM
It's a huge privilege to experience once again THE Dream Theater. Likewise, it's an honor for JD Labs to drive those wonderful Focals!
Thank you sir!
Post by: yygoob on Mar 19, 2011 at 08:39 PM
Post by: timber715 on Mar 19, 2011 at 09:11 PM
until you decide to upgrade again ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 19, 2011 at 09:17 PM
Post by: Cjtjader on Mar 19, 2011 at 09:20 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 19, 2011 at 09:23 PM
its hard to describe how the new set up sound like but one thing that caught my attention really, the volume level we are listening too is at -2db already and thats way way too loud yet everything reaches my ears soflty, not sure on the more appropriate term but this is the best exmaple i could think off wherein brute power and massive look is perfectly blended with finnese,
the surround effect, Audyssey DSX is to die for,
and oh sir mark, what's the title of the BD with Lea Salonga?
Post by: firestorm on Mar 19, 2011 at 10:02 PM
and oh sir mark, what's the title of the BD with Lea Salonga?
Tirso ito yun
http://www.amazon.com/Miserables-25th-Anniversary-Concert-Blu-ray/dp/B004I2K4E8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1300548605&sr=8-1
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 19, 2011 at 10:05 PM
Thanks to sir Mark for hosting another great EB and it's nice to chat with members here sorry nalang sa mga hindi ko nakausap ang dami kasi natin.
Tirso ito yun
http://www.amazon.com/Miserables-25th-Anniversary-Concert-Blu-ray/dp/B004I2K4E8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1300548605&sr=8-1
salamat po, order ako kay pchin nito galeng ni lea eh
Post by: juanch on Mar 19, 2011 at 11:33 PM
The Focal Utopia's are HUGE!!! :o :o
They sound so real. It is a pleasure to listen to for both music and movies. :)
I do not if it's just me but I felt like the LFE in The Dark Knight was panning. :o
I've been to your HT several times na and I think this is quite possibly the best upgrade you've made. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 20, 2011 at 05:33 AM
as usual fun filled afternoon again, daming tao, maraming salamat sir mark for being the ever generous host. nice to see new faces too.
its hard to describe how the new set up sound like but one thing that caught my attention really, the volume level we are listening too is at -2db already and thats way way too loud yet everything reaches my ears soflty, not sure on the more appropriate term but this is the best exmaple i could think off wherein brute power and massive look is perfectly blended with finnese,
the surround effect, Audyssey DSX is to die for,
With regard to the loud volume level, I think there are 2 aspects:
1) When sound is undistorted, you can play at higher volumes and it will still be pleasant to the ears.
2) There were about 25 people in the room and each one (especially the fat ones ;D ) absorbs sound so you need to play at a louder level to achieve the same perceived volume.
The "listener envelopment" effect created by Audyssey DSX is pretty incredible - seamless, you are in the movie. This is enhanced by the all-Focal setup which ensures that all speakers are timbre-matched and are of high quality.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 20, 2011 at 05:49 AM
Thanks sir Mark for again inviting me to your theater.
The Focal Utopia's are HUGE!!! :o :o
They sound so real. It is a pleasure to listen to for both music and movies. :)
I do not if it's just me but I felt like the LFE in The Dark Knight was panning. :o
I've been to your HT several times na and I think this is quite possibly the best upgrade you've made. ;D
Hi Juancho! Yes, the Focal Maestro Utopias are really huge (Blackie will post some pics of the speakers with vtec3 beside them) but more important, the sound quality is incredibly detailed and accurate.
I think I have substantially achieved what I have been long striving for -- a reference system for both music and movies. The theory is pretty simple - if you have a good system for music and which is not difficult to drive, it should also be good for movies. One incredible thing about the Focals is that even those relatively small amps of JojoD could adequately drive the huge Utopia speakers. That shows you how efficient the speakers are. You couldn't do that with my old PSB Stratus Goldi speakers because they are so hard to drive. You would fry the amps (which I did).
With regard to the "panning of LFE", I think those are the harmonics of the deep bass which are being panned among the speakers. When we watched the movie clips, we set the xovers of all speakers to 80 Hz, which meant that the subs were playing all the low and mid-bass so it would have been impossible to pan that. However, those bass sounds have harmonics at higher frequencies and these are played by the other speakers - that's what you were probably hearing. Our ears are fooled into thinking that the deep bass is coming from where the harmonics are being played.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 20, 2011 at 05:55 AM
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/33502_1584436454790_1352126987_31575323_5161539_n.jpg)
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:06 AM
Maganda talaga tunog ng hi-end TT with Jojo D's monoblocks and preamp but rather than describe it, I really prefer that people listen to it na lang.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0272.jpg)
All photos courtesy of the master --- Iiinas!
sayang at hindi ko na nadinig itong high end na TT na ito, had to go early and meet someone back sa Commonwealth. i am sure maganda tunog nito with master Jojo monoblocks. hindi ko nga mahipo man lang itong TT na ito dahil mabaka magasgas eh maibayad ko pa kotse ko ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:10 AM
as usual fun filled afternoon again, daming tao, maraming salamat sir mark for being the ever generous host. nice to see new faces too.
its hard to describe how the new set up sound like but one thing that caught my attention really, the volume level we are listening too is at -2db already and thats way way too loud yet everything reaches my ears soflty, not sure on the more appropriate term but this is the best exmaple i could think off wherein brute power and massive look is perfectly blended with finnese,
the surround effect, Audyssey DSX is to die for,
and oh sir mark, what's the title of the BD with Lea Salonga?
brader tama ka diyan, ganda ng tunog. i was one of the early ones who arrived. and Sir Blackie took a picture of me standing beside the Focal and after which I commented to Sir Mark, aba I was expecting na masakit sa tenga yung tweeter pero hindi smooth pa din ang highs :o considering na the tweeter is almost the same ear level ko standing ;)
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:12 AM
Eto na lang ang kulang -- ang Focal Viva Utopia center speaker! Ang ganda niya!
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/33502_1584436454790_1352126987_31575323_5161539_n.jpg)
naku Sir Mark eto pala yung sinasabi mo na center speakers. aba eh siguradong panalo ito. the voices of the singer was so crisp and detailed na kahit yung pause and bwelo nila eh dinig mo :o
salamat Sir Mark for inviting me. I am sure if not I would have not experience this in my lifetime ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:14 AM
maestro utopias.... nuff said!
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:26 AM
nice meeting new and old members alike. great eb! thanks sir mark for being such a great host!
maestro utopias.... nuff said!
sayang kagawad did not see you, had to leave early.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:29 AM
With regard to the loud volume level, I think there are 2 aspects:
1) When sound is undistorted, you can play at higher volumes and it will still be pleasant to the ears.
2) There were about 25 people in the room and each one (especially the fat ones ;D ) absorbs sound so you need to play at a louder level to achieve the same perceived volume.
The "listener envelopment" effect created by Audyssey DSX is pretty incredible - seamless, you are in the movie. This is enhanced by the all-Focal setup which ensures that all speakers are timbre-matched and are of high quality.
kaya pala sa tapat ni brader chan parang mahina tapos sa pwesto namin ni jojod mahina din hahahahahahaha
incredible experience sir mark, time for jessica soho to do naother feature of the HT and interview of the proud owner
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 20, 2011 at 07:11 AM
With regard to the loud volume level, I think there are 2 aspects:
1) When sound is undistorted, you can play at higher volumes and it will still be pleasant to the ears.
2) There were about 25 people in the room and each one (especially the fat ones ;D ) absorbs sound so you need to play at a louder level to achieve the same perceived volume.
The "listener envelopment" effect created by Audyssey DSX is pretty incredible - seamless, you are in the movie. This is enhanced by the all-Focal setup which ensures that all speakers are timbre-matched and are of high quality.
Ouch! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks sir Mark for again inviting me to your theater.
The Focal Utopia's are HUGE!!! :o :o
They sound so real. It is a pleasure to listen to for both music and movies. :)
I do not if it's just me but I felt like the LFE in The Dark Knight was panning. :o
I've been to your HT several times na and I think this is quite possibly the best upgrade you've made. ;D
I felt that too! I even thought the sofa had a bass shaker! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Mar 20, 2011 at 07:18 AM
sayang kagawad did not see you, had to leave early.
oo nga brader von. d bale marami pa yang next time...
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 20, 2011 at 07:23 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1087.jpg)
The big one...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1090.jpg)
The gears...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1088.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1105.jpg)
And of course, the guys...
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1093.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1094.jpg)
Look at those dslr! Wala sa Pana yan nasa Indian!!! Hahaha! ;D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1095.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1097.jpg)
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1106.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1107.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v70/jojod818/PinoyDVD%20EB%203-19-2011/IMG_1108.jpg)
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Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 20, 2011 at 08:21 AM
nagmukhang tunog radio transistor tuloy yung set-up ko... ;D
actually I already have same set-up like yours.......nakatago nga lang sa Dreams ko ;D ;D ;D
Its nice to see you guys, ... ;)
Post by: anchit on Mar 20, 2011 at 08:44 AM
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 20, 2011 at 08:49 AM
Post by: Narayan on Mar 20, 2011 at 09:23 AM
Salamat to all the guys that came to the EB. Sobra saya! :) :)
I hope I haven't forgotten anyone:
1. Blackie
2. Iiinas
3. Alvinh
4. Cjtjader
5. Brian_mico
6. Onkyo606
7. Dayday
8. Narayan
9. Setup
10. Kefq
11. Juancho
12. Vtec3
13. Yygoob
14. Saxman
15. JojoD818
16. Stickfighter
17. Marge
18. Firestorm
19. Dts-HD 3d
20. Hansen
21. Ditoy_eagle
22. Timber715
23. Mandyb
24. Friend of Tirso
25. Friend of Hansen
Pics coming from Stickfighter and Blackie! :) :)
Hi Mark,
Thanks a lot for the great privilege to EXPERIENCE your to-die-for audio/HT set-up ;D the big question now is.......will you now join the darkside of analog ;D it was nice meeting with old and new acquaintances ;) dami ko bagong natutunan.... na siguradong pagkakagastusan ;D
Post by: alvinh on Mar 20, 2011 at 10:54 AM
The gears and friends, new and old make this hobby a very rewarding experience!
Two things:
1) Ang galing, galing talaga!
2) Tara na! Dun sa ano...
;D ;D ;D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 20, 2011 at 01:09 PM
With your graciousness sir mark I was able to hear those magnificent speakers once again. Thanks for sharing it w/ us. Next stop . . . . Viva city in Utopia ;D Cheers!
Nice chatting w/ all of you guys!
Sarap ng pansit sino nagdala nun? ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 20, 2011 at 01:25 PM
With your graciousness sir mark I was able to hear those magnificent speakers once again. Thanks for sharing it w/ us. Next stop . . . . Viva city in Utopia ;D Cheers!
Nice chatting w/ all of you guys!
Sarap ng pansit sino nagdala nun? ;D
oo nga ako yung palabok ang dala ko at yung puto na maliliit hehehehe
Post by: zekiber2 on Mar 20, 2011 at 01:34 PM
Post by: macdon on Mar 20, 2011 at 01:47 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Mar 20, 2011 at 01:49 PM
matanong ko lang po saan po dyan si sir onkyo sa pics hehe? ;D
Syempre yung pinaka-kyut . . . yung may mapa ng pinas sa t-shirt sir.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 20, 2011 at 01:56 PM
ang saya-saya naman jan ;D Sorry at hindi ako nakapunta - bawi nalang next time Mark ;)
di mo ba nakagat dila mo kagawad mac kahapon, ikaw pinga wentuhan namin hehehehe
dont worry naunawaan naman namin mahirap kase talaga maipunan ng labahin kaya alam ko di mo natapos agad eh, ako inagahan ko gising bago ako umlais naikula ko na yun nga lang nauna ako umuwi kase isisilong ko pa eh sayang naman pag naulanan ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: zekiber2 on Mar 20, 2011 at 03:14 PM
anyway congrats naman sa samahan nyo at eb hehe naway marami pa kayong maakit sa bisyo nyong magastos lols iba talaga si sir streetsmart ;) kahit sa pic pa lang nafeel ko na mahiwaga ang tunog nyang focal hehe
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 20, 2011 at 03:17 PM
Hi Mark,
Thanks a lot for the great privilege to EXPERIENCE your to-die-for audio/HT set-up ;D the big question now is.......will you now join the darkside of analog ;D it was nice meeting with old and new acquaintances ;) dami ko bagong natutunan.... na siguradong pagkakagastusan ;D
Hi Obet. Di na yata bagay sa akin ang turntable. Sabi ko kay Hansen na bagay ang TT sa inuman kasi parang mellow tunog niya. Sagot ni Hansen d raw bagay kasi kapag nagkamali ka sa karayom, bye-bye na sya and it costs $2k. ;D Sobrang delicates!
Post by: firestorm on Mar 20, 2011 at 03:31 PM
With your graciousness sir mark I was able to hear those magnificent speakers once again. Thanks for sharing it w/ us. Next stop . . . . Viva city in Utopia ;D Cheers!
Nice chatting w/ all of you guys!
Sarap ng pansit sino nagdala nun? ;D
Ako nagdala ng pansit I'm glad you guys liked it.
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 20, 2011 at 04:54 PM
Syempre yung pinaka-kyut . . . yung may mapa ng pinas sa t-shirt sir.
natuloy ba yung special dance number nung naka PH shirt ;)
Post by: iiinas on Mar 20, 2011 at 04:58 PM
natuloy ba yung special dance number nung naka PH shirt ;)
hindi ko na abutan yun. pero ang alam ko, natuloy! :D
Post by: vtec3 on Mar 20, 2011 at 05:00 PM
hindi ko na abutan yun. pero ang alam ko, natuloy! :D
naku sayang diko din nakita :( sino ba naman ang hindi mapapa indak sa ganda ng tunog ng mga speakers :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 20, 2011 at 06:13 PM
natuloy ba yung special dance number nung naka PH shirt ;)
sa pasko pa yna brader kasama ko si kagawad ayns at macdon ;D ;D ;D
Post by: kefq on Mar 21, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Post by: gaol on Mar 21, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Next time na lang uli Mark! :)
Post by: SETUP™ on Mar 21, 2011 at 02:03 PM
Sayang hindi ako nakapunta. Mukhang nag-enjoy lahat. :(
Next time na lang uli Mark! :)
Oo nga brader arn wala ka.. ang saya nga at ang galing ng mga gears na naka set up :o from of course the major major major speakers ni sir mark na Utopia.. to the incredible mono block ni brader master jo at syempre pa sa high end turntable and phono stage ni brader hansen. Siguro busy ka sa bagong avr ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 21, 2011 at 02:58 PM
Sayang hindi ako nakapunta. Mukhang nag-enjoy lahat. :(
Next time na lang uli Mark! :)
Siguro busy ka sa bagong avr ;D
Haha! Kumusta na ang 4311? ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 21, 2011 at 09:21 PM
This was the very first EB that Marge attended in her whole life. She does not belong to any forum or web community like us, so it was a first for her. ;D Her impression about us....she said that she is impressed how everyone was such a GENTLEMAN and how each member RESPECTS one another. :)
Her impression of sir Marks HT...WOW!!! :o She was blown away by the entire experience. :D I truly believe that bullet day comes and we have our own place, a didcated HT room will be part of the plan. ;D
As for your current set-up sir Mark...what can I say...? Each and everytime I go back, the experience just gets better and better. :) Congratulations! :)
Now the bad news...as I attached my camera's SD card into the laptop, the system hanged for some reason. When I restarted the laptop, it prompted me to format the SD card. I clicked on CANCEL and pulled out the SD card. When I plugged it again, the prompt came once more and I pulled it out again. So I decided to insert it back into the camera. When I inserted it, the cams display read - Invalid Format/Format Card. There was no way I could get the photos out.:( Sad to say, I lost all the photos taken there even the Christmas photos of our family and other occasions. :( Napakasayang ng napakadaming pics na nabura. I got rid of that SD card and bought a new one yesterday. :)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 21, 2011 at 09:53 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 21, 2011 at 10:22 PM
^^^ eb na lang tayo ulit para may bagong pics ;D ;D ;D
Correct! ;D More wine, cheese and cold cuts! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 22, 2011 at 05:13 AM
Correct! ;D More wine, cheese and cold cuts! ;D
Hi Martin! Sorry to hear about the SD card. Dapat download lagi agad sa computer. Wrt EB pics, hinihintay pa natin ang mga pics ni Blackie. Dami niyang kinuha. Baka inaayos pa.
Very nice to hear the comments of Marge. Jackpot ka talaga. Mas madali na ang WAF. ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 22, 2011 at 07:11 AM
Hi Martin! Sorry to hear about the SD card. Dapat download lagi agad sa computer. Wrt EB pics, hinihintay pa natin ang mga pics ni Blackie. Dami niyang kinuha. Baka inaayos pa.
Very nice to hear the comments of Marge. Jackpot ka talaga. Mas madali na ang WAF. ;D ;D
eh yun talaga ang purpose ni martin sir mark kunwari lang eh gusto tayo ipakilala ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 22, 2011 at 07:16 AM
^^^ eb na lang tayo ulit para may bagong pics ;D ;D ;D
yehey!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 22, 2011 at 07:20 AM
Late post...Sir Mark, thanks for having Marge and I over your place last Saturday. ;D It is always a pleasure to be there with fellow members. Nice to see old and new faces. :)
This was the very first EB that Marge attended in her whole life. She does not belong to any forum or web community like us, so it was a first for her. ;D Her impression about us....she said that she is impressed how everyone was such a GENTLEMAN and how each member RESPECTS one another. :)
Her impression of sir Marks HT...WOW!!! :o She was blown away by the entire experience. :D I truly believe that bullet day comes and we have our own place, a didcated HT room will be part of the plan. ;D
As for your current set-up sir Mark...what can I say...? Each and everytime I go back, the experience just gets better and better. :) Congratulations! :)
Now the bad news...as I attached my camera's SD card into the laptop, the system hanged for some reason. When I restarted the laptop, it prompted me to format the SD card. I clicked on CANCEL and pulled out the SD card. When I plugged it again, the prompt came once more and I pulled it out again. So I decided to insert it back into the camera. When I inserted it, the cams display read - Invalid Format/Format Card. There was no way I could get the photos out.:( Sad to say, I lost all the photos taken there even the Christmas photos of our family and other occasions. :( Napakasayang ng napakadaming pics na nabura. I got rid of that SD card and bought a new one yesterday. :)
Brader Martin,
Before destroying that SD card, you may want to try some software to try and extract the old data. I know this because it happened to me a long time ago and I was able to get the data from the SD. The software is pretty small in size and is downloadable. I'll see if I can remember the name or look for it in my desktop pc.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 22, 2011 at 07:28 AM
Brader Martin,
Before destroying that SD card, you may want to try some software to try and extract the old data. I know this because it happened to me a long time ago and I was able to get the data from the SD. The software is pretty small in size and is downloadable. I'll see if I can remember the name or look for it in my desktop pc.
alibi lang ni martin yang SD na yan sinabi nya malamang kay marge, hon tingnan mo yung SD card nasira dapat na talagang mag palit ng bagong camera sayang yung mga precious moments nasisira sa camera ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 22, 2011 at 07:34 AM
alibi lang ni martin yang SD na yan sinabi nya malamang kay marge, hon tingnan mo yung SD card nasira dapat na talagang mag palit ng bagong camera sayang yung mga precious moments nasisira sa camera ;D ;D ;D ;D
ahahahaha! ginawang dahilan yun SD card! :D :D :D
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 22, 2011 at 08:18 AM
Hi Martin! Sorry to hear about the SD card. Dapat download lagi agad sa computer. Wrt EB pics, hinihintay pa natin ang mga pics ni Blackie. Dami niyang kinuha. Baka inaayos pa.
Very nice to hear the comments of Marge. Jackpot ka talaga. Mas madali na ang WAF. ;D ;D
Yup...sad indeed, but there will always be another day to take new photos. :) As for WAF, yes, I do believe it will be easy now to justify upgrades, given the fact that she really liked what she experienced in your HT. :) Bilib talaga sya...in the car going home, she couldn't stop talking about it. ;D
eh yun talaga ang purpose ni martin sir mark kunwari lang eh gusto tayo ipakilala ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hinde ah...talagang sinama ko sya, so she can see sir Marks HT. Para naman pag nagkwekwento ako sa kanya ng mga EB natin, nakakarelate sya. ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 22, 2011 at 08:20 AM
Brader Martin,
Before destroying that SD card, you may want to try some software to try and extract the old data. I know this because it happened to me a long time ago and I was able to get the data from the SD. The software is pretty small in size and is downloadable. I'll see if I can remember the name or look for it in my desktop pc.
Sayang Master Jo...had I known earlier sana hinde ko pa na-format yung SD card. Too late now. :(
alibi lang ni martin yang SD na yan sinabi nya malamang kay marge, hon tingnan mo yung SD card nasira dapat na talagang mag palit ng bagong camera sayang yung mga precious moments nasisira sa camera ;D ;D ;D ;D
Langhiya, akala ko ba kampi tayo brader Tirso...eh nilalaglag mo nako dito eh. :D :D :D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 22, 2011 at 08:31 AM
Sayang Master Jo...had I known earlier sana hinde ko pa na-format yung SD card. Too late now. :(
Oks, sana wala na next time. :D
Have a look at your card reader din, minsan yan ang cause eh. Believe it or not, those multi-colored Php50 SD card readers from the cdr king works for me for years now. ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 22, 2011 at 08:34 AM
Hinde ah...talagang sinama ko sya, so she can see sir Marks HT. Para naman pag nagkwekwento ako sa kanya ng mga EB natin, nakakarelate sya. ;D
Langhiya, akala ko ba kampi tayo brader Tirso...eh nilalaglag mo nako dito eh. :D :D :D
oh sya sige na sa presinto ka na lang mag paliwanag ;D ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 22, 2011 at 08:43 AM
oh sya sige na sa presinto ka na lang mag paliwanag ;D ;D ;D
abangan mo Brader... mga ilan araw lang may bago hakot na naman yan si Brader Martin! :D :D :D
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 22, 2011 at 09:41 AM
kelan nga ba uli next EB... ::)
para maayos na sched ni wifey at maisama ko ;D ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 22, 2011 at 10:24 AM
Oks, sana wala na next time. :D
Have a look at your card reader din, minsan yan ang cause eh. Believe it or not, those multi-colored Php50 SD card readers from the cdr king works for me for years now. ;)
Know what? Funny you mentioned CDR King...yon yung card reader ko. Sana hinde yon ang cause. :)
oh sya sige na sa presinto ka na lang mag paliwanag ;D ;D ;D
Ahhh ganon...prisinto pala ha... :D :D :D
abangan mo Brader... mga ilan araw lang may bago hakot na naman yan si Brader Martin! :D :D :D
Wala. Pretty happy with my gears right now. ;D
Post by: stickfighter on Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25 AM
kelan nga ba uli next EB... ::)
para maayos na sched ni wifey at maisama ko ;D ;D
Mukhang may balak kang mag-upgrade ha brader...? :P
Post by: Cjtjader on Mar 22, 2011 at 06:01 PM
^^^ eb na lang tayo ulit para may bagong pics ;D ;D ;D
Buti na lang hindi ko pa kinukuha monoblocks!! 8) 8) 8) 8)
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 26, 2011 at 07:07 AM
Sayang Master Jo...had I known earlier sana hinde ko pa na-format yung SD card. Too late now. :(kahit na format na bro marts, pwede pa recover, wag lang mapatungan ang buong space.
ill give you a ring later once i finish my trip :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 27, 2011 at 07:42 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0312.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0315.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0317.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0324.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0319.jpg)
Post by: Brian_mico on Mar 28, 2011 at 10:17 AM
Wow :o :o
iba ka talaga sir Mark.. spikes pa lang pamatay na.. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 28, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Wow :o :o
iba ka talaga sir Mark.. spikes pa lang pamatay na.. ;D
D ko naman ginagamit kasi once you install them, you can't move the speakers unless you have 4 people. ;D ;D
Gusto lang makita ni JojoD kasi sabi niya, sa description ko raw, baka mas mahal pa ang spikes sa kanyang monoblock power amps, e kinaya naman ng monoblocks nya na pakantahin ang Utopias ng malakas! Ang taba pa ng tunog! :)
Post by: iiinas on Mar 28, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Per special request of JojoD818, let me post pics of the spikes of the Focal Maestro Utopias, including their beautiful box and wrenches. High-end talaga! Na-intriga si JojoD818.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0312.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0315.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0317.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0324.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0319.jpg)
hehe, when i saw the case, i thought may freebie na cuban cigars pag bumili ng focal maestros. ;D
i told sir mark, tulungan ko siyang ikabit yung spikes, basta siya ang taga buhat at kalso ng 250lbs maestro niya. bwahaha. sabi niya, he will just stick to the current wheels that the maestros are installed with. ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 29, 2011 at 06:39 AM
Per special request of JojoD818, let me post pics of the spikes of the Focal Maestro Utopias, including their beautiful box and wrenches. High-end talaga! Na-intriga si JojoD818.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0312.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0315.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0317.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0324.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0319.jpg)
Sabi ko na eh! Oh diba parang Cuban cigars ang dating?! My goodness, tooling pa lang niyan mahal na eh, add the packaging and presentation pa! :o :o :o
D ko naman ginagamit kasi once you install them, you can't move the speakers unless you have 4 people. ;D ;D
Gusto lang makita ni JojoD kasi sabi niya, sa description ko raw, baka mas mahal pa ang spikes sa kanyang monoblock power amps, e kinaya naman ng monoblocks nya na pakantahin ang Utopias ng malakas! Ang taba pa ng tunog! :)
Matindi yan set of spikes ng maestros mo sir Mark, talaga naman mukhang mas mahal pa yan sa monoblocks ko eh. Sa hindi nakakaalam kung ano ang Focals ang iisipin laman niyan Cuban cigar or vintage gun. ;D
Lagot ka nga lang pag ginamit mo yan sir Mark, heavy yun mga maestros! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 07:04 AM
Matindi yan set of spikes ng maestros mo sir Mark, talaga naman mukhang mas mahal pa yan sa monoblocks ko eh. Sa hindi nakakaalam kung ano ang Focals ang iisipin laman niyan Cuban cigar or vintage gun. ;D
Lagot ka nga lang pag ginamit mo yan sir Mark, heavy yun mga maestros! ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0280.jpg)
Mukha ngang kawawa ang monoblocks mo kapag tinabi mo sa Maestro. Ang nakakagulat lang ay kinaya nya pakantahin ng super lakas ang higanteng Maestro!
Ayoko talaga gamitin ang spikes. Mahilig kasi ako magkalikot. Maya-maya, binabago ko pwesto ng speaker. E kapag may spike na, immobile na talaga!
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 29, 2011 at 07:15 AM
Mukha ngang kawawa ang monoblocks mo kapag tinabi mo sa Maestro. Ang nakakagulat lang ay kinaya nya pakantahin ng super lakas ang higanteng Maestro!
Ayoko talaga gamitin ang spikes. Mahilig kasi ako magkalikot. Maya-maya, binabago ko pwesto ng speaker. E kapag may spike na, immobile na talaga!
Masipag talaga yan monoblocks sir Mark, sobrang gala niyan eh from Gallos to Dynas to VA to Maestros! ;D Ang lamig pa kaya napagkakamalan tuloy na Class D hehehe... Parang may Peltier device sa loob hahaha!
Ok naman yun wheel type niya, even with that ang hirap pa din ilipat ng pwesto. Sa bigat ng Maestros pag nag spikes ka sir baka bumaon na din yun sa flooring ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Mar 29, 2011 at 07:24 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0317.jpg)
Hanep sa packaging!!! ;) ;)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0280.jpg)
Layas talaga yang lintek na monoblocks na yan!!hahahahah At ang gusto pa eh magpa-kanta ng mgpa-kanta ;) ;) ;) ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 07:56 AM
Masipag talaga yan monoblocks sir Mark, sobrang gala niyan eh from Gallos to Dynas to VA to Maestros! ;D Ang lamig pa kaya napagkakamalan tuloy na Class D hehehe... Parang may Peltier device sa loob hahaha!
Hindi pa rin ako makapaniwala na Class AB sila. Hindi kasi umiinit, kahit bumabayo na ang Maestro. Siguro nga, meron silang built-in ref, ung maliit lang. ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:13 AM
Hindi pa rin ako makapaniwala na Class AB sila. Hindi kasi umiinit, kahit bumabayo na ang Maestro. Siguro nga, meron silang built-in ref, ung maliit lang. ;D
For the record Class AB sila sir Mark hahaha! ;D ;D ;D
All I did was my homework and yun na, di na sila umiinit. :D :D :D
Post by: blackie on Mar 29, 2011 at 10:08 AM
I apologize for the lateness of this Sir Mark,
I still cannot seem to resolve why the pictures shown are so small. Mike C and Sir Eric (Hebrew) have been gracious enough to have tried to have helped me but this is long past due, so I decided to post what I could. Please bear with the images captured as, my hands were shaking on some shots, this was before our gracious host lent me a tripod.
The date, March 19, 2011. Agenda for that day Audio EB/get together.
As always it was all great to see y'all.
When I first arrived I believe I caught Sir Mark listening to some Cream/Eric Clapton. He was busy reading this:
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL431_1024x683.jpg)
I think it is testament that the love for this hobby is also the never ending pursuit for knowledge related to this hobby.
Focal Utopias in all it's glory!
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL437_1024x683.jpg)
From the Left
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL438_1024x683.jpg)
From the Right
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL444_1024x683.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL445_1024x683.jpg)
Guess this says it all.
From the middle...
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL451_1024x683.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL446_1024x683.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL449_1024x683.jpg)
Would you believe Sir Mark "dreams" of a bigger center channel?
Spyro Gyra could not be more palpable coming out of these babies...
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL457_1024x683.jpg)
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL465_1024x683.jpg)
Would you believe these are side speakers!!! Others would only dream to have these singing in the front!
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL468_1024x683.jpg)
Power Extreme!!!
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL471_1024x683.jpg)
Sir Mark tinkering
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL482_1024x683.jpg)
That's about it for now. Will post more pictures soon....
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 10:57 AM
bitin naman ang pics nag build up na excitement tapos, thats it for now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hehe. Bitin nga. ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 29, 2011 at 11:09 AM
bitin naman ang pics nag build up na excitement tapos, thats it for now ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
isa lang ibig sabihin niyan... ulitin ang EB para maayos ang pictures! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Mar 29, 2011 at 11:10 AM
isa lang ibig sabihin niyan... ulitin ang EB para maayos ang pictures! ;D ;D ;D
Hehe. Bitin nga. ;D
dapat nga yata EB ulit ;D
Post by: nogie on Mar 29, 2011 at 11:16 AM
dapat nga yata EB ulit ;D
kasama ako sa weekend. ikaw brader? ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:20 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0317.jpg)
Btw sir Mark, sigurado ka ba na spikes nga talaga yan?
Parang ganyan kasi itsura nun exploding arrow tips nun gamit na bow ni Rambo at sa Call of Duty: Black Ops... ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:31 PM
Btw sir Mark, sigurado ka ba na spikes nga talaga yan?
Parang ganyan kasi itsura nun exploding arrow tips nun gamit na bow ni Rambo at sa Call of Duty: Black Ops... ;D ;D ;D
Ay, tama ka. Next time, test natin! ;D ;D
Post by: timber715 on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:40 PM
Ay, tama ka. Next time, test natin! ;D ;Ddi ako pupunta muna sir Mark, mukha kasi akong viet, baka mapag-subukan pa ko ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:48 PM
di ako pupunta muna sir Mark, mukha kasi akong viet, baka mapag-subukan pa ko ;D ;D ;D
Wala problema yan. Isama mo lang si kagawad Iiinas at si Xxxyzledge. Mas mukha silang Vietcong. Sila ang titirahin. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:54 PM
From the middle...
(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee211/braggy13/FULL451_1024x683.jpg)
Would you believe Sir Mark "dreams" of a bigger center channel?
nakita ko na naman yan stand na yan... hay... sir mark! yoooohoooo!!!
Post by: Armz316 on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:58 PM
great job and well done. :) Thanks a lot for showing us. Just would like to ask,
did you have your speakers calibrated? Aside from the video. How much does it cost
to have yuor speakers calibrated if you don't mind my asking. Thank you and God bless. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:02 PM
nakita ko na naman yan stand na yan... hay... sir mark! yoooohoooo!!!
Don't worry, Jake. Malapit na palitan ang center speaker. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:06 PM
Don't worry, Jake. Malapit na palitan ang center speaker. ;D ;D ;D
hayayay! new center speaker pa pala! hibang klase ka talaga sir mark!
woooooooohoooooooooo! new stand too i hope! ;)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/Utopia-Viva-6__30802_zoom1.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:11 PM
Wow! awesome set up Streetsmart! Very very nice, very neat ang hometheater mo.
great job and well done. :) Thanks a lot for showing us. Just would like to ask,
did you have your speakers calibrated? Aside from the video. How much does it cost
to have yuor speakers calibrated if you don't mind my asking. Thank you and God bless. :)
Yes, both my audio and video are professionally calibrated. Libre. Ako kasi gumagawa. ;D ;D ;D
I have a complete set of professional calibration equipment for audio and video, not the best but pretty good. I do my own calibration.
It's pretty expensive to get a competent pro to calibrate your system. If you want, send a PM to @alvinthx2. He's very good at both video and audio.
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:14 PM
hayayay! new center speaker pa pala! hibang klase ka talaga sir mark!
woooooooohoooooooooo! new stand too i hope! ;)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/Utopia-Viva-6__30802_zoom1.jpg)
Yup. Google mo ang Focal Viva Utopia.
Pero d pa naman agad ko bibilhin. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:15 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:23 PM
Langya itong si Jazzy Jake. Ano ginawa mo? Bakit bigla may pic ng center speaker? ;D
tinitingnan ko lang po kung bagay at mas maganda yung stand.....
eh... parang... ;D ;D ;D ahihihi!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:25 PM
tinitingnan ko lang po kung bagay at mas maganda yung stand.....
eh... parang... ;D ;D ;D ahihihi!!!
Hehe. Kaw talaga #1 mangkukulam sa pinoydvd. ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:26 PM
Yup. Google mo ang Focal Viva Utopia.
Pero d pa naman agad ko bibilhin. :)
actually sir mark na google ko na eh... in fact, ayan nga ata yung hinahanap mo na stand niya - can tilt to the level you want.
tingnan mo... ganda diba!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/post-2-090378700201286297139_thumb1.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:33 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Mar 29, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Langya! Saan mo nakita yan? Ngayon ko lang yan nakita. ???
o ha! kita mo! eh diba yan ang hinahanap mo? :P
eto pala ang link niya . . . utopia (http://www.component.se/forum/index.php?showtopic=12868)
naku fiesta yan sir mark... maganda din pala yung mga power amp nila diyan na ginamit sa utopia!
ultimo! cheers and enjoy!
Post by: iiinas on Mar 30, 2011 at 07:43 PM
o ha! kita mo! eh diba yan ang hinahanap mo? :P
eto pala ang link niya . . . utopia (http://www.component.se/forum/index.php?showtopic=12868)
naku fiesta yan sir mark... maganda din pala yung mga power amp nila diyan na ginamit sa utopia!
ultimo! cheers and enjoy!
naku. gandang kulam... BILI NA BILI NA! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Mar 30, 2011 at 09:37 PM
o ha! kita mo! eh diba yan ang hinahanap mo? :P
eto pala ang link niya . . . utopia (http://www.component.se/forum/index.php?showtopic=12868)
naku fiesta yan sir mark... maganda din pala yung mga power amp nila diyan na ginamit sa utopia!
ultimo! cheers and enjoy!
Nakupo! The stand costs $9500! ;D ;D ;D
DIY ko na lang yan!
Post by: Armz316 on Apr 01, 2011 at 09:50 AM
Hello po Streetsmart. Just want to ask if you calibrate other HT system aside from yours.
And 2nd. How do i contact AlvinTHX? Thank you po very much Streetsmart.
P.S. i plan to have my audio system calibrated first.
While i try to use the auto update firmware of my tv.
t.y.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 01, 2011 at 10:02 AM
Hello po Streetsmart. Just want to ask if you calibrate other HT system aside from yours.
And 2nd. How do i contact AlvinTHX? Thank you po very much Streetsmart.
P.S. i plan to have my audio system calibrated first.
While i try to use the auto update firmware of my tv.
t.y.
This is just a hobby for me so I don't really calibrate other HT systems. If you wish, send a PM to alvinthx2 (not alvinthx, iba yun). Alvin really offers audio-video calibration services.
Post by: Armz316 on Apr 02, 2011 at 03:27 PM
Thank you po very much Streesmart for the help. Ingat. :) God bless you.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 03, 2011 at 05:47 PM
Ang tropa:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0164.jpg)
The best shots I've seen of the front speakers:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0158.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0176-1.jpg)
Classy shots of the center speaker:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0079.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0086.jpg)
Rear-view of the Maestro Utopia:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/CSC_0120.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0058-1.jpg)
Part of my collection:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0140.jpg)
Post by: zekiber2 on Apr 03, 2011 at 05:53 PM
Post by: Conan on Apr 03, 2011 at 06:08 PM
Post by: timber715 on Apr 03, 2011 at 06:21 PM
Post by: Stagea on Apr 03, 2011 at 06:33 PM
I'd like to extend thanks to everyone who were there yesterday (parang andami natin) for the intelligent conversation, the fine wine, and the good food. I wish I could've stayed longer. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 03, 2011 at 07:23 PM
Just of curiosity sir Mark and not implying anything, Have you tried Cal's cables on your system? I'm almost sure he would be willing to lend you a pair or two just to try... ;)
We used Cal's cables when we set up the turntable during the EB. The analog system sounded great!
Post by: timber715 on Apr 03, 2011 at 07:25 PM
We used Cal's cables when we set up the turntable during the EB. The analog system sounded great!ah yes, I remember... thank you, if and when gsound auditions his resonators sama po ako ha? ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 03, 2011 at 07:31 PM
Thanks Sir Mark for accommodating us yesterday. We all enjoyed your superb system; it was arrestingly good (as I expected from Utopias). It's the sixth time I've heard Utopias, but this was the first time that I've heard them in a home theater setting. The resolution and snap was truly enthralling.
I'd like to extend thanks to everyone who were there yesterday (parang andami natin) for the intelligent conversation, the fine wine, and the good food. I wish I could've stayed longer. :)
Thanks for coming. After you left, one of the things we did was to use the XTZ Room Analyzer to check out the RTA, waterfall chart, etc. so we could see the before and after effect of Audyssey MultEQ room correction. Very interesting to see how the frequency response is seriously flattened by the EQ.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 03, 2011 at 07:39 PM
ah yes, I remember... thank you, if and when gsound auditions his resonators sama po ako ha? ;D
Sure! Arrange natin.
Post by: gaol on Apr 03, 2011 at 09:18 PM
It's also amazing to see how the Denon 4311 and XT32 can "tame" and bring out the best from the Focals, which typically are more often used in a pure stereo setup. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Apr 03, 2011 at 09:23 PM
We used Cal's cables when we set up the turntable during the EB. The analog system sounded great!
Thanks, Sir mark for the opportunity to include my diy IC in the analog system set up by Hansen! ;) Unfortunately, i wasn't able to bring a speaker cables! :)
Post by: shuttertrigger on Apr 04, 2011 at 03:30 AM
:o oh my gulay what a collection ;D
Awesome collection! ;D
Take note mga sirs, Its only a PART of the collection. :D
If you think the speakers are humonguos, wait until you see how it sounds. I thought the subwoofers are playing when I arrived early but its only the Maestro that was doing the job. I also thought that Im in a Hifi show for a second. :D Pleasure to meet the gentlemen last saturday, gaol, dts-HD 3D, nogie, Stagea.
Thanks again for the invite sir Mark. It is really the music that intoxicates me not the red wine. ;) 'Til next time sir and more power to you!
Post by: JoeyGS on Apr 04, 2011 at 04:38 AM
Congrats sir Mike....looks like you have a versatile set-up be it HT or Audio
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 04, 2011 at 04:56 AM
Thanks Mark for having us again. Too bad I had to leave early as I promised my wife to attend to several errands for the house. Even so the improvement in audio--and even video--from the last time I was at your place is such a thrill to hear and witness.
It's also amazing to see how the Denon 4311 and XT32 can "tame" and bring out the best from the Focals, which typically are more often used in a pure stereo setup. ;D ;D ;D
Mabilis talaga itong si Gaol magpuri ng sarili niyang gamit. Meron na rin kasi siyang Denon 4311. ;D ;D
The improvement in video was because I decided to change the pj lamp and then re-calibrate. Huge difference. Parang buhay talaga ang picture.
Post by: dj on Apr 04, 2011 at 07:37 AM
Post by: Armz316 on Apr 04, 2011 at 08:32 AM
tuwing nagbabalik pananalig ko sa pdvd i never miss to visit the thread of streetsmart, he's always an inspiration :)
So right you are Bro. :) God bless everyone here.
Post by: beginner on Apr 04, 2011 at 09:20 AM
Truly an inspiration.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 04, 2011 at 01:19 PM
Thanks for coming. After you left, one of the things we did was to use the XTZ Room Analyzer to check out the RTA, waterfall chart, etc. so we could see the before and after effect of Audyssey MultEQ room correction. Very interesting to see how the frequency response is seriously flattened by the EQ.
Very obvious ang improvement sa audio pero iba din pag meron visuals. Helped me understand partly, how the xt32 did the job. Kaya nakaka-addict ang tunog ng Maestros e. Thanks sir Mark!
Pleasure to meet the gentlemen last saturday, gaol, dts-HD 3D, nogie, Stagea.Likewise bro :)
Post by: Stagea on Apr 04, 2011 at 02:18 PM
Pleasure to meet the gentlemen last saturday, gaol, dts-HD 3D, nogie, Stagea.It was great to meet you too Hebrew, as with the other gentlemen Gaol and Nogie. :)
Post by: Superman on Apr 04, 2011 at 02:20 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 04, 2011 at 02:45 PM
Congratulations, Sir Mark! I have heard those during the Hi-Fi show, we were viewing AVATAR...it was simply jaw-dropping, CHEERS!
Yes, that's when I fell in love with the Focal sound ... but those were the Focal Electras. The Maestro Utopia was in the neighboring room, driven by VTL amps. The Electras are beautiful-sounding but the Maestro is in a different class for tweeters, mid-range, woofer, soundstage, imaging ....
Post by: Superman on Apr 04, 2011 at 03:10 PM
Yes, that's when I fell in love with the Focal sound ... but those were the Focal Electras. The Maestro Utopia was in the neighboring room, driven by VTL amps. The Electras are beautiful-sounding but the Maestro is in a different class for tweeters, mid-range, woofer, soundstage, imaging ....
My bad, got them mixed up...these were the speakers playing the Charmaine Clamor CD!! :D
Post by: Narayan on Apr 05, 2011 at 08:16 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 05, 2011 at 08:43 PM
Very nice new pictures of your to-die-for focals bro. mark ;) very happy when i noticed those familiar Audioquest cf-bfa connectors hooked to the big focal maestros ;D congrats again ;)
Haha! ;D ;D
I've been buying banana plugs for years and years now and your plugs are the best I've ever used. Ang ganda ng kapit, tapos tinotornilyo pa ang wire kaya d talaga luluwag. Otherwise, every few months, you will be really surprised that some of your banana plugs are so loose na.
Post by: Narayan on Apr 05, 2011 at 08:59 PM
Haha! ;D ;D
I've been buying banana plugs for years and years now and your plugs are the best I've ever used. Ang ganda ng kapit, tapos tinotornilyo pa ang wire kaya d talaga luluwag. Otherwise, every few months, you will be really surprised that some of your banana plugs are so loose na.
Am very pleased that you liked those connectors enough to be a part of your superb system ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Gsound on Apr 18, 2011 at 08:53 PM
Post by: dana on Apr 28, 2011 at 05:58 AM
Post by: sientobente on Apr 30, 2011 at 04:34 PM
Kailangan i-feature ulit ng GMA ang HT niyo sir Mark. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 30, 2011 at 06:48 PM
I just read your thread from page 1 to page 82. I loved the honest and informative insights you had on every upgrade. Ang galing ng evolution of gears. Definitely, hands down the best HT in the Philippines.
Kailangan i-feature ulit ng GMA ang HT niyo sir Mark. :)
Hmmm ... you have a lot of time on your hands. ;D
Thanks! You should visit soon. :)
Post by: sound garden on May 01, 2011 at 03:41 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 01, 2011 at 05:44 PM
Ang galing sir ng evolution or transformation ng audio gears nyo. I heard the Focal Speaker in one of the showroom in shangrila but the old model. I ask about the one you got. And the only aswer of the salesman to me, thats the best focal speaker right now. Wow and the Price was ::) You got the best HT set-up so far here in PDVD. Thanks for sharing your wonderful speaker. :) :)
I wouldn't say that the Maestro Utopia is the best Focal speaker. There's the Stella and the Grande Utopia EM. However, each one seems to be designed for a particular size of room. I don't think the Grande Utopia would sound good in my room - it needs a much bigger room. So, for my room, maybe the Maestro is the best. :)
I'm in the middle of installing some interesting acoustic treatment which seems to have a big improvement again. Tapusin ko lang and then post ko sya. :)
Post by: alvinh on May 03, 2011 at 10:07 PM
I wouldn't say that the Maestro Utopia is the best Focal speaker. There's the Stella and the Grande Utopia EM. However, each one seems to be designed for a particular size of room. I don't think the Grande Utopia would sound good in my room - it needs a much bigger room. So, for my room, maybe the Maestro is the best. :)
I'm in the middle of installing some interesting acoustic treatment which seems to have a big improvement again. Tapusin ko lang and then post ko sya. :)
I am really curious what the "interesting acoustic treatment" is...looking forward to it Chief! :D
Post by: blackie on May 06, 2011 at 04:13 PM
Brother Hansen Giving a small lecture, and preframing us for Spyro Gyra
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Sir Cal inspecting the setup
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5267/5685596116_ac5f3529fc_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685596116/)
Pasado ba?
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5685026807_fffe87cf5b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685026807/)
Sir Mark "Pwede na" with Attorney Dayday
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Brother Juancho "It's getting hot in here!!!"
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Sir Christian, MAster Jojo and Brother Hansen...
"I wonder if may lecture ngayon ::) ::) ::)......."
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Post by: blackie on May 06, 2011 at 04:26 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5144/5685597264_03f8d091c5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685597264/)
Hocus Focus!!! Brother Martin
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5251/5685028065_733f3b0e24_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685028065/)
Some of MAster Jojo's Creations...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5224/5685595680_de90e5b0e7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685595680/)
The Lady in Red...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5185/5685026191_5e7e833560_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685026191/)
Is that a Strad? Checkout the detail on the wood!!!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5269/5685025853_74129fcf01_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685025853/)
Placido...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5224/5685595032_34bd12c736_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685595032/)
Steve Nash Look ALike...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5107/5685594772_e8b5fafb31_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685594772/)
Blow....
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5184/5685025125_d0cbeecc38_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685025125/)
Blow, Blow your horn!!!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5270/5685024987_6582d65214_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685024987/)
Post by: blackie on May 06, 2011 at 04:41 PM
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5144/5685024861_3599c15617_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685024861/)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5685594104_be28e2825c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685594104/)
Si Lea, parang may mumps here...
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5302/5685023213_f77768b05e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685023213/)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5061/5685022717_78468c4887_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685022717/)
And more focals!!!, take note of the custom painted red aircon 8)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5062/5685022583_628aef5694_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685022583/)
They're everywhere!!!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5310/5685022283_df6c67fbc3_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685022283/)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5685022221_f94370836f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685022221/)
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5145/5685021575_b970b17f9c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685021575/)
Custom made steel mounts!
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5242/5685021527_e2ea452df4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685021527/)
From the side..
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5301/5685590646_962c956d79_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61794939@N08/5685590646/)
Again than you for you graciousness Sir,
Took your advice as well of Mike C's to transfer to Flickr. Till the next EB!!!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on May 09, 2011 at 11:00 AM
The vocalist has arrived! Her name, VIVA.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3524/5702367212_fd0f9cbbca.jpg)
The formidable TRIO.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2179/5701797799_30638158ac.jpg)
At ear level . . . with the Maestro and the Mentor.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/5701797507_3551d00a35.jpg)
Post by: Brian_mico on May 09, 2011 at 11:06 AM
Wow ang laki :o :o :o parang floorstander na pinahiga ;D ;D
congratz sir Mark.. ;)
Post by: iiinas on May 09, 2011 at 11:08 AM
kelan mga hapgreyds sa power amps? ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2011 at 11:09 AM
Problema lang ay wala pa ang stand niya so meanwhile, temporary solution muna. Magagalit na naman kasi si Jazzy Jake nito. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2011 at 11:10 AM
sayang was not able to attend sir mark. no doubt the set up improved once again. happy for you sir! ;D
kelan mga hapgreyds sa power amps? ;D
Parating na ang 2 monoblocks. :)
Lagot ka ... meron nang nakaabang na iba sa Emotiva. ;D
Post by: sound garden on May 09, 2011 at 11:12 AM
Post by: Stagea on May 09, 2011 at 12:08 PM
Post by: blackie on May 09, 2011 at 12:33 PM
Sorry missed this Sir! Would have loved hearing "VIVA" sing!!! So what happens to the previous center? 12. ........? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Congrats!!!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2011 at 02:01 PM
At ear level . . . with the Maestro and the Mentor.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/5701797507_3551d00a35.jpg)
ayan! ayan ang tinatawag na center! ahihihi, nagmukhang bookshelf yung ultra! ahahaha!
Naku. Na-post na pala ni Luther. ;D
Problema lang ay wala pa ang stand niya so meanwhile, temporary solution muna. Magagalit na naman kasi si Jazzy Jake nito. ;D
sir mark naman! naman naman!
Lagot ka ... meron nang nakaabang na iba sa Emotiva. ;D
ahem... at isa pang ahem!!!
Post by: iiinas on May 09, 2011 at 02:22 PM
Parating na ang 2 monoblocks. :)
Lagot ka ... meron nang nakaabang na iba sa Emotiva. ;D
naku, alam ng lahat sa pdvd na nakapunta na dyan sa ht nyo na 1st dibs ako... ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2011 at 02:24 PM
naku, alam ng lahat sa pdvd na nakapunta na dyan sa ht nyo na 1st dibs ako... ;D
ahem at isa pang ahem!
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2011 at 02:31 PM
naku, alam ng lahat sa pdvd na nakapunta na dyan sa ht nyo na 1st dibs ako... ;D
E paano ang 8350? Ano priority mo? ;D ;D
Post by: Conan on May 09, 2011 at 02:33 PM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2011 at 02:33 PM
E paano ang 8350? Ano priority mo? ;D ;D
uuuuyyyyy! may maitim na balak si kagawad!!!
pero sir mark! please please please naman!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/Utopia-Viva-6__30802_zoom1.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/post-2-090378700201286297139_thumb1.jpg)
Post by: mike c on May 09, 2011 at 02:34 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2011 at 02:37 PM
pero sir mark! please please please naman!
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/Utopia-Viva-6__30802_zoom1.jpg)
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/post-2-090378700201286297139_thumb1.jpg)
Hayan ang sinasabi ko. Matindi talaga mang-api itong si Jazzy Jake. :-[
Nagkamali kasi ang AV Driver. 2 klase ang stand ng Viva - vertical-oriented and horizontal. Ang pinasok nila ay vertical kaya mali. Nag-order na ng tamang stand pero syempre ilang buwan pa bago dumating. Sorry po uli, master Jake ... :'(
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2011 at 02:41 PM
YAN ang center na worthy of the dream theater!
Hi Mike! Sabi nga ni Jake ay mukhang bookshelf na lang daw ang Ultra. Baka dapat 16" na Ultra ang kailangan. ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 09, 2011 at 02:54 PM
E paano ang 8350? Ano priority mo? ;D ;D
happy pa ako sa 720p. ;D
EMOTIVA, FTW!!! ;)
uuuuyyyyy! may maitim na balak si kagawad!!!
;) ;D ;)
Post by: shuttertrigger on May 09, 2011 at 02:57 PM
Post by: praktikal on May 09, 2011 at 02:59 PM
Post by: ricky on May 09, 2011 at 02:59 PM
happy pa ako sa 720p. ;D
EMOTIVA, FTW!!! ;)
;) ;D ;)
Tama ka sir iiinas, you're not missing that much in replacing your current pj ;)
Ang laki ng speaker mo Sir mark, para kang lumiit ;D Ear level nga yung tweeter but when standing ka na;D kakainggit yung speaker at yung room size mo ;)
Post by: Onkyo606 on May 09, 2011 at 03:09 PM
dreams are always a reality in leon guinto
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 09, 2011 at 03:12 PM
Hi Mike! Sabi nga ni Jake ay mukhang bookshelf na lang daw ang Ultra. Baka dapat 16" na Ultra ang kailangan. ;D ;D
yun oh!
Post by: Gsound on May 09, 2011 at 03:16 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 09, 2011 at 04:57 PM
My idea behind getting the Viva was that the Front + Center (LCR) speakers are the main cast. All 3 are equally important, while all the other speakers are the supporting cast. I felt that it was essential to get a Center that was the equal of the Fronts because if you listen closely (like 2 feet away) to the center speaker, you will realize that there is a huge amount of material coming out from it. I have to say that the Viva Utopia is definitely the perfect match of the Maestro Utopias. It is perfectly timbre-matched, meaning that the LCR speakers are now all super detailed and accurate.
Post by: juanch on May 09, 2011 at 06:25 PM
Great upgrade sir Mark! I said it before and I'll say it again.
These speakers are the best upgrades you've ever made IMO
Looking forward to another visit, need inspiration for my HT ;D
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 09, 2011 at 06:46 PM
Your dream theater sir is one of my inspirations that's why I decided to convert from PC speakers to dedicated HT audio set up.
Hopefully one of these days I will be invited in one of your gatherings in your place sir and be able to listen to your great Focal Utopias :)
Post by: XXXyzledge on May 10, 2011 at 07:31 AM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/5701797507_3551d00a35.jpg)
ganda ganda naman !!!
woooooohoooooo !!!! Congrats Mark!
Post by: alvinh on May 10, 2011 at 09:39 AM
Congrats Chief Mark! Another great addition sa dream set up. ;D
Post by: vtec3 on May 10, 2011 at 11:11 AM
Post by: Superman on May 10, 2011 at 11:15 AM
Post by: Gwenael on May 10, 2011 at 11:49 AM
God Bless and more upgrades to come ;D ;D ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on May 10, 2011 at 12:02 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/5701797507_3551d00a35.jpg)
magkasingtangkad ba si miguel & si mark? ;D ;D ;D
ay! mas malaki pala yung viva utopias !!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 10, 2011 at 12:25 PM
magkasingtangkad ba si miguel & si mark? ;D ;D ;D
ay! mas malaki pala yung viva utopias !!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Mukhang walang magawa itong mamang ito ... ;D ;D
I am gradually appreciating even more the Viva Utopia speaker. What really strikes me is that aside from the clear vocals, it has a very tight upper bass sound, something which I never expected. Iba rin talaga ang blending niya with the Maestros. It provides a completely seamless sound stage. In other words, sq has just gone up another serious notch.
Post by: yygoob on May 10, 2011 at 07:15 PM
Post by: berdilot™ on May 10, 2011 at 09:55 PM
Post by: macdon on May 10, 2011 at 10:35 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on May 26, 2011 at 06:48 PM
ganda nga ng mga svs na bookshelves !!! ;D ;D ;D
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/5701797507_3551d00a35.jpg)
ganda ganda naman !!!
woooooohoooooo !!!! Congrats Mark!
Nagmukha ngang BS yun SVS. ;D Congrats sir Mark!!
Btw, meron na ba ditong Focal na may built-in amp yun driver para sa lows?
Post by: pchin on May 26, 2011 at 06:56 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 26, 2011 at 07:19 PM
Btw, meron na ba ditong Focal na may built-in amp yun driver para sa lows?
None that I know of. I'm not aware of any Focal speaker that has a built-in amp. Besides, I prefer to have separate amps. More flexible. :)
Actually, parang lumiit nga ang kwarto ko with these speakers. Next upgrade requires a room upgrade as well. :) ;D
These past few weeks, I've been enjoying the new system. My concert and CD collection sound so different.
Dami kong inuulit panoorin. :)
Post by: Stagea on May 26, 2011 at 07:29 PM
Nagmukha ngang BS yun SVS. ;D Congrats sir Mark!!
Btw, meron na ba ditong Focal na may built-in amp yun driver para sa lows?
Marami silang active monitors/speakers, may built-in amp per driver. :) They don't subscribe to separate amplification sa domestic audio dahil sa potential mismatches, hence hindi biampable/triampable/quadampable ang passive Focal speakers.
Eto yung maganda nilang matching na active set:
SM11 L (Left)
SM11 R (Right)
SM11 C (Center)
SM11 S (Sub)
Ironically, some high end professional mastering rooms use this as a "no-compromise" solution:
(http://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/6413_112224426471_111833731471_2706539_7759897_n.jpg)
(http://www.michaelromanowski.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/20101103RomoSitting-copy.jpg)
Looks familiar? Yes, they're Grande Utopia EM speakers.
Post by: streetsmart on May 26, 2011 at 07:35 PM
From what I know, the listening room of Focal for the Grande Utopia is 40 x 25 feet. Kung ganun ang kwarto mo, you can locate the speakers 4 to 6 feet away from the walls.
Post by: streetsmart on May 26, 2011 at 07:36 PM
Post by: Stagea on May 26, 2011 at 07:46 PM
Actually, parang lumiit nga ang kwarto ko with these speakers. Next upgrade requires a room upgrade as well. :) ;DCongrats sir Mark. I'm sure magandang maganda na talaga yan ngayon. :)
These past few weeks, I've been enjoying the new system. My concert and CD collection sound so different.
Dami kong inuulit panoorin. :)
I heard rumors about this coming upgrade. It seems like you're going after the G.U. ;D
Interesting that those Grande Utopias are stuck against the wall. They must have some massive EQ to sound good.
From what I know, the listening room of Focal for the Grande Utopia is 40 x 25 feet. Kung ganun ang kwarto mo, you can locate the speakers 4 to 6 feet away from the walls.
I think they would have quite a bit of processing to compensate. Though the Grande Utopia EM professional monitors are Focal Professional installed, afaik. I think they tune the flux density in the EM driver's gap, the crossover frequencies and the driver intensities to match the room and gear.
Apparently, compensating for these speakers is still preferable to going for the usual studio gear. The top to bottom integration is unrivaled by their active solutions at the moment (in fact, their studio monitor units are voiced after the Grande Utopias)
Post by: Stagea on May 29, 2011 at 02:19 AM
Post by: streetsmart on May 29, 2011 at 05:07 AM
I heard dumating na daw ang Monoblocks! Congrats Sir Mark!
Yes, 2 of them. Iniisip ko pa to get a third for the center. They are incredibly heavy. Gumaan bigla ang Aragon amps ko. ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 30, 2011 at 05:43 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0067.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0068.jpg)
You can see all the power amps here (6 of them):
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0070.jpg)
Electricity bill just went up a little bit more. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on May 30, 2011 at 06:02 AM
Post by: beginner on May 30, 2011 at 06:30 AM
Post by: markcrenz on May 30, 2011 at 06:53 AM
Electricity bill just went up a little bit more. ;Dsir mark tingin ko 1kw na at idling yang system mo. :o
congrats, great monster amps!
Post by: vtec3 on May 30, 2011 at 06:54 AM
Here's one of the Emotiva monoblocks:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0067.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0068.jpg)
You can see all the power amps here (6 of them):
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0070.jpg)
Electricity bill just went up a little bit more. ;D
wow Sir Mark huge monoblocks :o congrats!!!
Post by: Narayan on May 30, 2011 at 01:13 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0070.jpg)
Electricity bill just went up a little bit more. ;D
congrats mark on the new toys ;D am sure meralco's bill is the least of your concern ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on May 30, 2011 at 04:35 PM
The monoblocks are very powerful. 1000 watts @ 4 ohms. Wala na ako takot na kulang ang power. I'm able to experiment playing some discs very loud. ;D8) 8) 8) 8)
Congratulations, Sir Mark! I'm sure the Emotivas let you feel how authoritative they are!!! ;) ;) How does it performs compared with your Aragons, sonically? TIA
Post by: streetsmart on May 30, 2011 at 07:03 PM
8) 8) 8) 8)
How does it performs compared with your Aragons, sonically? TIA
Very hard to say ... and honestly, I bought the Emotiva monoblocks mainly for their power, so that I don't get paranoid when I watch a movie at reference level and the Maestro Utopias are running full-range.
Post by: iiinas on May 30, 2011 at 07:10 PM
Very hard to say ... and honestly, I bought the Emotiva monoblocks mainly for their power, so that I don't get paranoid when I watch a movie at reference level and the Maestro Utopias are running full-range.
::) ::) ::)
complete na ba? or may isa pa?
Post by: Cjtjader on May 30, 2011 at 07:18 PM
Very hard to say ... and honestly, I bought the Emotiva monoblocks mainly for their power, so that I don't get paranoid when I watch a movie at reference level and the Maestro Utopias are running full-range.
Glad that the Emos gave you peace of mind! :) Congratz again, Sir Mark!
Post by: streetsmart on May 30, 2011 at 07:25 PM
::) ::) ::)
complete na ba? or may isa pa?
Why do I get the feeling that parang may hidden agenda ang nagtatanong? ;D
Relax ... ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 30, 2011 at 07:44 PM
Why do I get the feeling that parang may hidden agenda ang nagtatanong? ;D
Relax ... ;D
why do i have the same feeling? ;D ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on May 31, 2011 at 04:49 AM
Relax ... ;D
relax ako sir. eto kumakain na lang nga ng kitkat! ;)
why do i have the same feeling? ;D ;D ;D
obvious ba sir jake! hehehe
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 31, 2011 at 07:03 PM
relax ako sir. eto kumakain na lang nga ng kitkat! ;)
obvious ba sir jake! hehehe
naman naman! padinig naman niyan!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jun 03, 2011 at 03:06 AM
hayz xpa-5 . . . wala na ako pag-asa sa pagka-#6 :D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 13, 2011 at 10:04 PM
Post by: Stagea on Jun 14, 2011 at 09:29 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 14, 2011 at 04:05 PM
Walang movement dito ah. ;) Mukhang naghahanda na for a prepro. ;D
Grande Utopia EM saka Pre-Processor nga ata. :)
Hehe. Nope. Inaabang ko stand ng center speaker. Ang ganda nun. ;D
Iniisip ko pa kung bili ako one more monoblock amp. ???
Parang gusto ko rin gawa another tweak sa acoustic treatments. Baka gawin ko ito within next 2 weeks. Sure kasi ako na pwede pa ma-improve acoustics. :)
I'm already running the Denon 4311 as a prepro. Ang magandang prepro lang ay Integra 80.2 Wala ako interes. I think the Denon 4311 is better.
May interes talaga ako sa Grande Utopia -- when I retire and build a new house sa Sta Rosa. Matagal pa yun. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 14, 2011 at 06:44 PM
Hehe. Nope. Inaabang ko stand ng center speaker. Ang ganda nun. ;D
Iniisip ko pa kung bili ako one more monoblock amp. ???
Parang gusto ko rin gawa another tweak sa acoustic treatments. Baka gawin ko ito within next 2 weeks. Sure kasi ako na pwede pa ma-improve acoustics. :)
I'm already running the Denon 4311 as a prepro. Ang magandang prepro lang ay Integra 80.2 Wala ako interes. I think the Denon 4311 is better.
May interes talaga ako sa Grande Utopia -- when I retire and build a new house sa Sta Rosa. Matagal pa yun. ;D
auyun oh! magiging kapitbahay ko na si sir mark! wooooohooooo!
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 14, 2011 at 07:16 PM
auyun oh! magiging kapitbahay ko na si sir mark! wooooohooooo!
Hehe. Serious ako dun. Ang ganda kasi ng Sta Rosa. Happy birthday!!! :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 14, 2011 at 07:29 PM
sinabi mo pa! salamat chief!
Post by: Billabong on Jun 14, 2011 at 09:50 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 15, 2011 at 04:53 AM
Very very nice home theater sir!! ;)
Thanks. Bisita ka minsan. :)
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:37 AM
Hehe. Serious ako dun. Ang ganda kasi ng Sta Rosa. Happy birthday!!! :)
ayos yan sir malapit lapit na samin ang EB pag sta rosa ;D
Post by: docelmo on Jun 15, 2011 at 09:16 AM
Hope to see and hear this soon!!!
Congrats!!!
Post by: Questor on Jun 15, 2011 at 10:30 AM
Post by: Billabong on Jun 15, 2011 at 11:21 AM
Thanks. Bisita ka minsan. :)
Sige po sir. Kung kelan kayo free. Thanks for the invite! :)
Kaya lang nagwo-worry ako at baka tamaan tayo ng sakit na upgradetitis! hehe ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 15, 2011 at 05:07 PM
Sige po sir. Kung kelan kayo free. Thanks for the invite! :)
Kaya lang nagwo-worry ako at baka tamaan tayo ng sakit na upgradetitis! hehe ;D
brader pag bisita mo siguraduhin mo na may helmet ka at straight jacket. iwanan mo din ang wallet mo sa bahay. pag pupunta ka, yung pabandang gabi para sigurado pasarado na ang mga tindahan ng gears!
and when you intend to go, take one last look at your gears. ;)
;D ;D ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:07 PM
brader pag bisita mo siguraduhin mo na may helmet ka at straight jacket. iwanan mo din ang wallet mo sa bahay. pag pupunta ka, yung pabandang gabi para sigurado pasarado na ang mga tindahan ng gears!
and when you intend to go, take one last look at your gears. ;)
;D ;D ;D
Hindi ka lang pala warlock. Magaling na tactician ka pa. ;D
Post by: frootloops on Jun 15, 2011 at 06:16 PM
I want to search this house for the long list of groceries in mind, baka makakita ako ng pizza maker or ingredients. But since i know Mark is really not into pizza, i will just wait for the next thing to be served.
Congrats po!
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 15, 2011 at 07:15 PM
Hirap biruin ni senor Mark....pikon! :D
I want to search this house for the long list of groceries in mind, baka makakita ako ng pizza maker or ingredients. But since i know Mark is really not into pizza, i will just wait for the next thing to be served.
Congrats po!
Hi Donnel! Di ko nakalimutan ang request mo to play 1812 sa plaka during the EB. Natakot AV Driver. Baka raw tumalon tonearm ng TT. Wasak ang P100k na karayom. ;D ;D
Post by: Billabong on Jun 15, 2011 at 11:30 PM
brader pag bisita mo siguraduhin mo na may helmet ka at straight jacket. iwanan mo din ang wallet mo sa bahay. pag pupunta ka, yung pabandang gabi para sigurado pasarado na ang mga tindahan ng gears!
and when you intend to go, take one last look at your gears. ;)
;D ;D ;D
LOL :D
I wonder how an ultra hi-end set-up sounds like! :o
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 16, 2011 at 12:23 AM
LOL :D
I wonder how an ultra hi-end set-up sounds like! :o
sounds like yuo dont want to get out of the room anymore ;D ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 16, 2011 at 08:09 PM
sounds like yuo dont want to get out of the room anymore ;D ;D
Sounds like gusto kong mag-sleep over sa HT room ni sir Mark!!!
Post by: frootloops on Jun 16, 2011 at 08:34 PM
Hi Donnel! Di ko nakalimutan ang request mo to play 1812 sa plaka during the EB. Natakot AV Driver. Baka raw tumalon tonearm ng TT. Wasak ang P100k na karayom. ;D ;D
Mahina ang karayon pag hindi kinaya ang 1812. Yung LP ko Hollywood Bowl Orchestra pa ang bumanat..using real cannon's as well. Kinaya nga ng Garrard namin eh...pero marble ang platform. ;D
Hoping to drop by soon Senor. ;)
Post by: Billabong on Jun 18, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Until now I still can't get the experience off my mind. Ibang klase!! In the dvd and bluray concerts/musicals that were played, it felt as if I was right there at the front row seat of the concert hall. In Saving Private Ryan, parang nasa gitna ka ng giyera that it was stressful to watch (in a positive way). The guns and explosions felt life-like. In the movie How To Train Your Dragon, grabe yung low frequency extension dun sa isang part.. na feel ko na gumapang sa buong katawan ko.
Picture quality is excellent na nagpa-pop out yung colors and parang 3-dimensional yung images. Ang tindi rin ng black level. Kitang kita yung contrast ng light black sa black. Skintones are also very accurate. Diyan ko lang nakita yung pagka kayumanggi ni Charice sa David Foster concert. Ang ganda rin pala pag malaki yung screen!
The overall experience was truly AMAZING! 8)
Thanks a lot sir Mark! Sayang hindi na kami nakatagal pa.. pero sana makapanood ulit diyan. hehe :D
Kung malibre kayo, sana makabisita rin po kayo samin. Hingi na rin po sana ng tips and advice on how to improve our system.
Thanks din po pala for the food and wine, and especially for your hospitality! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 19, 2011 at 04:59 AM
I'm very luck I was given the opportunity to audition this system... and all I can say is.... WOW!! :o :o :o
Until now I still can't get the experience off my mind. Ibang klase!! In the dvd and bluray concerts/musicals that were played, it felt as if I was right there at the front row seat of the concert hall. In Saving Private Ryan, parang nasa gitna ka ng giyera that it was stressful to watch (in a positive way). The guns and explosions felt life-like. In the movie How To Train Your Dragon, grabe yung low frequency extension dun sa isang part.. na feel ko na gumapang sa buong katawan ko.
Picture quality is excellent na nagpa-pop out yung colors and parang 3-dimensional yung images. Ang tindi rin ng black level. Kitang kita yung contrast ng light black sa black. Skintones are also very accurate. Diyan ko lang nakita yung pagka kayumanggi ni Charice sa David Foster concert. Ang ganda rin pala pag malaki yung screen!
The overall experience was truly AMAZING! 8)
Thanks a lot sir Mark! Sayang hindi na kami nakatagal pa.. pero sana makapanood ulit diyan. hehe :D
Kung malibre kayo, sana makabisita rin po kayo samin. Hingi na rin po sana ng tips and advice on how to improve our system.
Thanks din po pala for the food and wine, and especially for your hospitality! ;)
brader pag bisita mo siguraduhin mo na may helmet ka at straight jacket. iwanan mo din ang wallet mo sa bahay. pag pupunta ka, yung pabandang gabi para sigurado pasarado na ang mga tindahan ng gears!
and when you intend to go, take one last look at your gears. ;)
;D ;D ;D
Hay naku ... D kasi sumunod si Billabong sa payo ni pareng Jake. Patay siya! ;D ;D
I'm glad you enjoyed the experience! Actually, recently ko lang din pinapatugtog siya na super lakas kasi kayang kaya ng monoblocks. Iba ang dating. Mas maraming lumalabas na detalye. :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 19, 2011 at 05:14 AM
ayan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko! nung unang punta ko diyan talagang parang na-"rape" ako ng husto!
;D ;D ;D
Post by: ricky on Jun 19, 2011 at 05:18 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 19, 2011 at 05:23 AM
ayan na nga ba ang sinasabi ko! nung unang punta ko diyan talagang parang na-"rape" ako ng husto!
;D ;D ;D
Hahaha! Kelan mo ako invite sa kweba mo? Gusto ko talaga ma-experience ang da best massage in town (according to Iiinas)! ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 19, 2011 at 05:28 AM
Hahaha! Kelan mo ako invite sa kweba mo? Gusto ko talaga ma-experience ang da best massage in town (according to Iiinas)! ;D ;D
naman naman! sir mark, you are always welcome here! preferrably though on a weekend, just send me an SMS when you are coming... ;)
hmmm, para di ka mahirapan sa biyahe eh bumili ka na agad nang bahay sa westgrove! para araw araw ka na naming pupuntahan! ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 19, 2011 at 05:31 AM
Happy father's day mga señor, ang aga gumising ah, may hahakutin ba dahil fathers day :D
happy father's day brader ricky! naku wala nang hahakutin at baka di na ako papasukin ni misis! ;D
happy father's day sir mark!
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 19, 2011 at 05:38 AM
naman naman! sir mark, you are always welcome here! preferrably though on a weekend, just send me an SMS when you are coming... ;)
Sige, text kita. Hanap din ako ibang kasama na member para 3-some ang massage natin. ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jun 19, 2011 at 06:34 AM
Sige, text kita. Hanap din ako ibang kasama na member para 3-some ang massage natin. ;D ;D
ahem! sige ngayon pa lang maghahanda na ako ng langis! para mas masarap ang masahe! ahihihi!
Post by: Billabong on Jun 19, 2011 at 11:43 PM
Hay naku ... D kasi sumunod si Billabong sa payo ni pareng Jake. Patay siya! ;D ;D
I'm glad you enjoyed the experience! Actually, recently ko lang din pinapatugtog siya na super lakas kasi kayang kaya ng monoblocks. Iba ang dating. Mas maraming lumalabas na detalye. :)
Sinunod ko po pero hindi talaga kinaya nung armor! lol :D
Post by: Stagea on Jun 26, 2011 at 12:54 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed the experience! Actually, recently ko lang din pinapatugtog siya na super lakas kasi kayang kaya ng monoblocks. Iba ang dating. Mas maraming lumalabas na detalye. :)
Kelan kaya yung monoblock nung center? Hmmm... ;D
Nararamdaman ko din na may upcoming AVP-A1HDCI si Sir Mark. :o
The reason why? This firmware upgrade:
http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/new/673220.html (http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/new/673220.html)
Now he'd get the processing that he likes in his AVR, the design and build of a high-end pre-pro, and the advantage of balanced outputs. ;)
Biro lang, sir Mark... pero knowing you baka totohanin mo. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 26, 2011 at 03:02 PM
Kelan kaya yung monoblock nung center? Hmmm... ;D
Nararamdaman ko din na may upcoming AVP-A1HDCI si Sir Mark. :o
The reason why? This firmware upgrade:
http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/new/673220.html (http://www.ecoustics.com/electronics/products/new/673220.html)
Now he'd get the processing that he likes in his AVR, the design and build of a high-end pre-pro, and the advantage of balanced outputs. ;)
Biro lang, sir Mark... pero knowing you baka totohanin mo. ;D
6 to 7 weeks for the monoblock for the center. :)
I'm familiar with the AVP-A1HDCI upgrade plan. No interest really. I don't think I will get any distinct benefits. My understanding is that you need balanced outputs only when the cable run is very long. E magkatabi lang equipment ko.
This week na darating ang stand ng center. Baka may gawin din akong acoustic treatment tweak. Other than that and the monoblock, wala ako immediate interes sa upgrade. In the future -- automated masking system for the screen and an automated video calibration system. Meanwhile, relax muna and enjoy the system. :) :)
Post by: Stagea on Jun 26, 2011 at 03:23 PM
6 to 7 weeks for the monoblock for the center. :)
Ayun oh! :) Triple-treat na yung monoblocks mo. Sakto yung dedicated circuits mo for the HT room. ;)
I'm familiar with the AVP-A1HDCI upgrade plan. No interest really. I don't think I will get any distinct benefits. My understanding is that you need balanced outputs only when the cable run is very long. E magkatabi lang equipment ko.
That's indeed true, pero the different output circuitries tend to offer slightly different sonic flavors din. You might prefer one over the other (though XT32 might clean up most of the difference in coloration anyway).
What might appeal more is the OC build of higher-end designs. Overbuilt subsystems and independent power supplies. ;)
Upgrade or not, napakaganda na po ng system niyo. :)
This week na darating ang stand ng center. Baka may gawin din akong acoustic treatment tweak. Other than that and the monoblock, wala ako immediate interes sa upgrade. In the future -- automated masking system for the screen and an automated video calibration system. Meanwhile, relax muna and enjoy the system. :) :)
Nice! Gumaganda pa talaga ang napakagandang dream theater. 8)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 26, 2011 at 03:41 PM
That's indeed true, pero the different output circuitries tend to offer slightly different sonic flavors din. You might prefer one over the other (though XT32 might clean up most of the difference in coloration anyway).
What might appeal more is the OC build of higher-end designs. Overbuilt subsystems and independent power supplies. ;)
Siguro kung meron akong pure analog system, baka may marinig akong difference ... but I'm using heavy equalization and as you said, Audyssey MultEQ XT32 already has a huge effect on the sound. Bottom-line is that I really don't think I'll hear a difference. :)
I'd rather buy a pair of Focal Diablo Utopias to use as the surrounds. Kahit mas malaki gastos, at least sure ako na may maririnig akong improvement. ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Jun 27, 2011 at 04:14 AM
I'd rather buy a pair of Focal Diablo Utopias to use as the surrounds. Kahit mas malaki gastos, at least sure ako na may maririnig akong improvement. ;D ;D
Good choice! :o 8) I can hear a phone call to AVDI. ;D
Mukhang straight Utopia ang kalalabasan ng Dream Theater. ;D
Post by: Billabong on Jun 27, 2011 at 01:42 PM
I recently bought one for my system and it is a whole new world in terms of sound!! :o Never enjoyed music as much as I do now. :D Kaya medyo nalihis din muna ang upgrade sa HT. hehe
Sayang kasi yung potential ng utopias niyo kung CDs lang ang source for 2-channel audio IMO.
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 27, 2011 at 02:53 PM
Kamusta po? No plans of installing a turntable?
I recently bought one for my system and it is a whole new world in terms of sound!! :o Never enjoyed music as much as I do now. :D Kaya medyo nalihis din muna ang upgrade sa HT. hehe
Sayang kasi yung potential ng utopias niyo kung CDs lang ang source for 2-channel audio IMO.
Hehe. Mukhang napalihis ka sa dark side. ;D
During the EB last March, we had a P300k turntable connected to the Maestros. Maganda nga tunog pero nakakatakot kasi kung magkamali ka, bye-bye P100k needle. ;D
Each to his own. I find TT to be warm but it has a limited dynamic range and a particularly high noise floor. It's also susceptible to scratches. I think it's a good hobby but in terms of accuracy, I think it's hard to beat a well-recorded SACD, Bluray lossless concert or even a DVD/CD. Finally, the LPs are very limited in number and the good ones are extremely expensive.
Post by: Billabong on Jun 27, 2011 at 06:37 PM
Pero kanya kanyang preference nga talaga yan. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 27, 2011 at 08:41 PM
In my still very limited knowledge on turntables, baka di lang po nagmatch sa system niyo yung 300k TT set-up. I tried different combinations of turntables and cartridges and the sound they produce are significantly different. About the needle, meron naman po yung matibay pero maganda rin tumunog.
Pero kanya kanyang preference nga talaga yan. :)
If the TT's sound different, it seems to me that they do not have a neutral sound. In fact, my understanding of the analog world is that people try to mix and match components which have warm or bright or whatever sounds in order to achieve what they feel sounds good to them -- "preference". In my case, I "prefer" to listen to "reference" sounds, which is neutral. This requires acoustic treatment, proper speaker and sofa positioning and electronic equalization.
At the end of the day, I believe that everyone is looking for "accurate" sound reproduction. "Analog" guys try to achieve this through equipment matching (including cables) while people like me do it through some other ways -- acoustic treatment, positioning and EQ.
Bottom-line is that a TT may sound different and you may like that (and that's fine) but that's your "preference" and it may not be "reference".
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 27, 2011 at 08:45 PM
In my still very limited knowledge on turntables, baka di lang po nagmatch sa system niyo yung 300k TT set-up. I tried different combinations of turntables and cartridges and the sound they produce are significantly different. About the needle, meron naman po yung matibay pero maganda rin tumunog.
Pero kanya kanyang preference nga talaga yan. :)
I sincerely feel that you should have your own gallery na. ;D Uber uber ganda ang mg gamit mo and your dedicated HT room. Those big FS deserves to be flaunted. ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 27, 2011 at 08:53 PM
If the TT's sound different, it seems to me that they do not have a neutral sound. In fact, my understanding of the analog world is that people try to mix and match components which have warm or bright or whatever sounds in order to achieve what they feel sounds good to them -- "preference". In my case, I "prefer" to listen to "reference" sounds, which is neutral. This requires acoustic treatment, proper speaker and sofa positioning and electronic equalization.
At the end of the day, I believe that everyone is looking for "accurate" sound reproduction. "Analog" guys try to achieve this through equipment matching (including cables) while people like me do it through some other ways -- acoustic treatment, positioning and EQ.
Bottom-line is that a TT may sound different and you may like that (and that's fine) but that's your "preference" and it may not be "reference".
this is the reason why a lot of people do not enjoy or would have different view of the result of Audyssey. Audyssey as what the founder said, calibrates to set things to "reference setting" or closer to it and any alteration on the result make it preference setting.
in the case of sir mark's ht set up, setting has always been at reference
Post by: streetsmart on Jun 27, 2011 at 09:15 PM
this is the reason why a lot of people do not enjoy or would have different view of the result of Audyssey. Audyssey as what the founder said, calibrates to set things to "reference setting" or closer to it and any alteration on the result make it preference setting.
in the case of sir mark's ht set up, setting has always been at reference
In my view, all of us are trying to achieve the same thing -- enjoy a beautiful audio experience.
In the analog world, there are particular rules -- don't use any processing, no equalization, no DSP chips and preferably no subwoofer. I'm pretty certain that you can achieve excellent sound with these rules, provided that you have a room which is a minimum of 100 square meters, a minimum of acoustic treatment, Focal Grande Utopias or equivalent speakers and adequate amplification. Most people don't have these so they use speaker cables, interconnects, tubes and whatever equipment to achieve what sounds right to them.
In the digital world, people don't follow these rules. They use a lot more equalization and acoustic treatment + they use subwoofers.
I prefer the digital world ... but that doesn't mean that sometime in the future, I might still get a TT -- just for fun. :)
Understand what I'm saying -- the analog world rules are interesting, fun and challenging! But that's just not me.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jun 27, 2011 at 09:29 PM
In my view, all of us are trying to achieve the same thing -- enjoy a beautiful audio experience.
In the analog world, there are particular rules -- don't use any processing, no equalization, no DSP chips and preferably no subwoofer. I'm pretty certain that you can achieve excellent sound with these rules, provided that you have a room which is a minimum of 100 square meters, a minimum of acoustic treatment, Focal Grande Utopias or equivalent speakers and adequate amplification. Most people don't have these so they use speaker cables, interconnects, tubes and whatever equipment to achieve what sounds right to them.
In the digital world, people don't follow these rules. They use a lot more equalization and acoustic treatment + they use subwoofers.
I prefer the digital world ... but that doesn't mean that sometime in the future, I might still get a TT -- just for fun. :)
Understand what I'm saying -- the analog world rules are interesting, fun and challenging! But that's just not me.
thats why i have decided to stick it out with the digital world sir mark because i find it easier for me to grasp it apart from shying away from additional cost putting up another set up
Post by: dieselsy on Jun 27, 2011 at 10:01 PM
I'm speechless..
More power to you sir..
Post by: Billabong on Jun 28, 2011 at 02:09 AM
I sincerely feel that you should have your own gallery na. ;D Uber uber ganda ang mg gamit mo and your dedicated HT room. Those big FS deserves to be flaunted. ;D
Tignan ko pero medyo low profile lang kasi tayo. :)
About the analog and digital thingy.. I agree na kanya kanyang preference talaga yan. Personally, I love both. I want a reference digital HT system and a preferred sound in my turntable and CD player set-up. ;D I'm trying my best to combine the two. 8)
No doubt sir Mark you prefer the digital world.. Your system is probably one of the best if not the best HT system here. You have the finest equipments, hi-tech calibration tools and most importantly the knowledge and passion in setting up and tuning a system to reference level. ;)
Post by: jjlovemusic on Jul 02, 2011 at 09:56 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 02, 2011 at 11:02 PM
Hi Sir Mark! Thank you for the priviledge of hearing and seeing your wonderful HT! I only saw them on pics but today I got the chance to see and hear them. I was stunned (plus napamura silently :D). Thank you again and pasensya na po hindi na kami nagtagal. Driver po ako today and spent some family time this evening. More power to yo sir! Your HT was both an inspiration and motivation to me. ;) I hope to have a grande HT room in the future too. Wish me luck sir! :)
Thanks for coming! I wish you all the best! :)
Post by: xeroichi on Jul 02, 2011 at 11:57 PM
pag bumisita ako sa HT gallery, hindi ko nakakalimutan bumisita sa thread na to...
ang ganda kasi talaga ng setup ni sir streetsmart... admiring his knowledge din on this kind of stuff... :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 03:56 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5900256930_286137b3d4_oSmalldoc.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5900261096_8fd3604168_oSmalldoc.jpg)
Many many thanks to Paul! Terrific camera equipment. Great photographer!
Post by: Narayan on Jul 04, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 04, 2011 at 04:35 PM
Post by: jackdee on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:05 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:10 PM
Very nice pictures of your current set up mark 8) worthy of a space in audio/video interiors and other glossy HT related magazines ;)
Ang magaling ay si pchin! Kapag magaling ang photographer, lahat gumaganda. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:14 PM
parang may free PB12 ka narin pala :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:24 PM
bro mark 18hz LF ba talaga yung kaya ng utopia floorstander?
parang may free PB12 ka narin pala :D
Hindi naman. Hanggang 25 Hz lang sila kaya 40 Hz pa rin crossover nila.
Post by: praktikal on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:45 PM
Sir Mark, IKAW NA! :o :o :o
Post by: toys4geeks on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:51 PM
sadyang pababa ba yung woodwork sa ceiling holding your projector? and on each side, are there mounted sattelites sa taas?
saka yung photo taken, was that projector's image or LED? and linaw, pala kahit projector.
Over the weekend, Paul Chin took photos of my HT, including the new stand of the Viva Utopia center speaker. Here are the first 2 of his ultra-beautiful photos:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5900256930_286137b3d4_oSmalldoc.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5900261096_8fd3604168_oSmalldoc.jpg)
Many many thanks to Paul! Terrific camera equipment. Great photographer!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:53 PM
Ang ganda streetsmart!
pababa ba yung woodwork sa ceiling holding your projector?
saka yung photo taken, was that projector's image or LED?
Hehe. Will post more pics soon. Doon mo makita ceiling.
The pic on the screen is cheating. ;D Photoshop lang yun ni pchin.
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 04, 2011 at 05:55 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 06:27 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Utopiasmed.jpg)
Sana hindi na ilait ni Jake ang stand ng center. It weighs 50 pounds!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Vivamed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontctrmed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontleftmed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontrightmed.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 06:29 PM
sadyang pababa ba yung woodwork sa ceiling holding your projector? and on each side, are there mounted sattelites sa taas?
Di pa rin kita ceiling -- it slopes upwards, from the front to the rear. There are some earlier photos which should give a clearer view.
There are 6 satellites on the walls -- front heights, surrounds and surround backs.
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 06:30 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Rightctrmed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Rightrearmed.jpg)
Post by: juanch on Jul 04, 2011 at 07:38 PM
Post by: sanmig_ph on Jul 04, 2011 at 08:54 PM
Great photos by paul ;)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 04, 2011 at 09:22 PM
Sana hindi na ilait ni Jake ang stand ng center. It weighs 50 pounds!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Vivamed.jpg)
oh diba! yang ang stand! bagay na bagay na ngayon sila!
pero sir mark... talagang nagmukhang bookshelf yung ultra! ahihihi!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 09:31 PM
oh diba! yang ang stand! bagay na bagay na ngayon sila!
pero sir mark... talagang nagmukhang bookshelf yung ultra! ahihihi!
Hay salamat ... after enduring 6 months of panlalait ni Don Jake, finally ok na rin sa kanya ang setup ko. ;D ;D
Kelan massage session natin sa inyo? Ngayong sabado hapon? Oil please, d powder at saka sana threesome at least. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 04, 2011 at 09:34 PM
hehe! am ok this saturday pero siguro later in the afternoon, dadating yung masahista ng mga 3pm. may dala na yung oil! sige ok ako threesome! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 04, 2011 at 09:54 PM
hehe! am ok this saturday pero siguro later in the afternoon, dadating yung masahista ng mga 3pm. may dala na yung oil! sige ok ako threesome! ;)
Huh? ??? ??? ???
Hindi naman ikaw ang gusto kong kasama sa threesome. >:( >:(
Pwede pa yung gf ni Phil Younghusband. Hiramin lang natin, kagaya ng last Xmas EB. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 04, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Huh? ??? ??? ???
Hindi naman ikaw ang gusto kong kasama sa threesome. >:( >:(
Pwede pa yung gf ni Phil Younghusband. Hiramin lang natin, kagaya ng last Xmas EB. ;D ;D ;D
ahahaha! diba ikaw ang may dala ng pang threesome!??! pero diba mas ok yung ex-GF ni dennis trillo? :o
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 04, 2011 at 10:27 PM
Ah sir Mark! I miss your HT!! ::)
Yeah. Me too. Very neat and well integrated center stands. Bagay na bagay.
Post by: iiinas on Jul 04, 2011 at 10:32 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Jul 04, 2011 at 10:38 PM
Post by: frootloops on Jul 05, 2011 at 12:29 AM
Kailangan talaga mabisita na ulit ito. (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/snack.gif)
Post by: jjlovemusic on Jul 05, 2011 at 01:50 AM
Post by: audiojunkie on Jul 05, 2011 at 05:03 AM
WOW! WOW! WOOOW! I'm speechless Sir Mark! :o :o :o
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jul 05, 2011 at 05:54 AM
Over the weekend, Paul Chin took photos of my HT, including the new stand of the Viva Utopia center speaker. Here are the first 2 of his ultra-beautiful photos:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5900256930_286137b3d4_oSmalldoc.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/5900261096_8fd3604168_oSmalldoc.jpg)
Many many thanks to Paul! Terrific camera equipment. Great photographer!
:o :o :o Iba ka talaga sir Mark! Nice photos sir pchin! Sana nakapunta ako last Sat para nakita ko at nakapag soundtrip at tsaka nagpaturo na rin kay sir pchin. ;)
Post by: Moks007 on Jul 05, 2011 at 07:43 AM
Post by: gunblade977 on Jul 05, 2011 at 08:35 AM
Ah sir Mark! I miss your HT!! ::)
I agree! nakaka miss yung HT ni sir Mark!
Post by: Billabong on Jul 05, 2011 at 10:26 AM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 11:04 AM
AWESOME ;)
very nice kodak too by sir paul ;)
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 05, 2011 at 11:23 AM
Hindi naman. Hanggang 25 Hz lang sila kaya 40 Hz pa rin crossover nila.ah kasi kita ko kasi sa focal website 18hz daw :D
Post by: ricky on Jul 05, 2011 at 12:16 PM
Post by: blackie on Jul 05, 2011 at 03:38 PM
Some more great pics from Paul Chin:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Utopiasmed.jpg)
Sana hindi na ilait ni Jake ang stand ng center. It weighs 50 pounds!
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Vivamed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontctrmed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontleftmed.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Frontrightmed.jpg)
Kapow!!! Love the Center Speaker Stand! looks as if it's about to fire!!!
Post by: Gsound on Jul 05, 2011 at 04:19 PM
Kapow!!! Love the Center Speaker Stand! looks as if it's about to fire!!!
sir Mark, ganda naman pala ng stand ng center speaker mo. kumpleto na siguro yan. :D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 05, 2011 at 06:23 PM
Napakaganda na ngayon master mark, iba talaga dating sa akin ng red ht. ;) Kung Hindi pa ako nakapunta dito iisipin mo sa picture parang maliit, pero sa actual napakalaki nito, no offense meant Paul. :) dapat yata ultra wide lens gamitin dito to capture the actual room size. Pwede ko ba bitbitin si froots?
Sige, punta kayo ni Donnel. Pa-kodak uli! :)
Post by: Cjtjader on Jul 05, 2011 at 07:27 PM
pag nakikita ko set up ni sir mark parang gusto ko ng mag mountain bike na lang na hobby
AWESOME ;)
very nice kodak too by sir paul ;)
Hahahhahaah nice 1 brader Tirso.........Nice photos Sir Paul! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Lalo gumanda yung center with matching stands!!!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 05, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Kapow!!! Love the Center Speaker Stand! looks as if it's about to fire!!!
sir Mark, ganda naman pala ng stand ng center speaker mo. kumpleto na siguro yan. :D
Hahahhahaah nice 1 brader Tirso.........Nice photos Sir Paul! 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Lalo gumanda yung center with matching stands!!!
o ayan sir mark! puro like ha! buhay na buhay ang center speaker stand parang internet ni lola! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 05, 2011 at 09:02 PM
o ayan sir mark! puro like ha! buhay na buhay ang center speaker stand parang internet ni lola! ;)
Oo na. Parang sobra kang defensive. ???
Iniisip ko nga na lahat ng binibili ko may naririnig akong sq or pq improvement. Pero ang center stand? Napilitan lang ako dahil sa panlalait mo. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Jul 05, 2011 at 09:25 PM
Oo na. Parang sobra kang defensive. ???
Iniisip ko nga na lahat ng binibili ko may naririnig akong sq or pq improvement. Pero ang center stand? Napilitan lang ako dahil sa panlalait mo. ;D ;D ;D
mahirap palang ma puna ni idol jake nagiging magastos ;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Jul 05, 2011 at 09:30 PM
o sige sige... boys boys kayo na ang humusga, aber aber tingnan niyo nga?
nagkamali ba si sir mark sa center speaker stand niya?
naman naman diba!
;D ;D ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Vivamed.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/5701797507_3551d00a35.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0079.jpg)
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Jul 06, 2011 at 09:04 AM
How I wish I could just have a pair any of those for an audio set-up ;D
Post by: XXXyzledge on Jul 06, 2011 at 12:50 PM
o sige sige... boys boys kayo na ang humusga, aber aber tingnan niyo nga?
nagkamali ba si sir mark sa center speaker stand niya?
naman naman diba!
;D ;D ;D
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Vivamed.jpg)
yan ang SPEAKER STAND !!!
congrats mark! ultimate ultimate HT setup na yan!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 06, 2011 at 01:16 PM
yan ang SPEAKER STAND !!!
congrats mark! ultimate ultimate HT setup na yan!!!
Isa ka pang kakampi ni Don Jake. ;D
Post by: ricky on Jul 07, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Sige, punta kayo ni Donnel. Pa-kodak uli! :)
Next week master andyan na kami, busy Lang si froots, nagpapagaling ng tahi ;D
Post by: frootloops on Jul 07, 2011 at 11:59 AM
Next week master andyan na kami, busy Lang si froots, nagpapagaling ng tahi ;D
Dalin ko mga CD ko..Post Operative Mix at Tahitian Mix! ;D
Post by: vtec3 on Jul 07, 2011 at 01:34 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 07, 2011 at 05:06 PM
Next week master andyan na kami, busy Lang si froots, nagpapagaling ng tahi ;D
Dalin ko mga CD ko..Post Operative Mix at Tahitian Mix! ;D
Hehe. Sige, PM nyo ako.
Post by: anchit on Jul 08, 2011 at 09:34 PM
congrats sir!
Post by: markcrenz on Jul 08, 2011 at 10:05 PM
super ganda sir ng mga pix! lovely center speaker and stand! since you've moved to Focal di ko pa din naririrnig yan! :Dako rin. sugod na tayo! ;D ;D ;D
congrats sir!
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 08, 2011 at 10:16 PM
super ganda sir ng mga pix! lovely center speaker and stand! since you've moved to Focal di ko pa din naririrnig yan! :D
congrats sir!
ako rin. sugod na tayo! ;D ;D ;D
E kayo ... PM na lang.
Post by: qguy on Jul 21, 2011 at 07:14 AM
The last time I was in this room, it had "puny" floorstanders and couple of large subs. The loudspeakers that you have now more than matches the BIG SCREEN. What are you driving the speakers with ?
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 21, 2011 at 07:38 AM
AWESOME !!!
The last time I was in this room, it had "puny" floorstanders and couple of large subs. The loudspeakers that you have now more than matches the BIG SCREEN. What are you driving the speakers with ?
Emotiva monoblocks. 1000 watts @ 4 ohms. They match.
Post by: sientobente on Jul 30, 2011 at 03:30 AM
Post by: beginner on Jul 30, 2011 at 03:34 AM
Post by: jao143 on Jul 30, 2011 at 09:34 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 30, 2011 at 11:00 PM
i've visited sir mark's ht a few hours ago with kagawad iiinas and sir sientobente, grabe, talagang utopia nga ang focals, nakakainlove, specifically the electras... Thanks sir mark for the hospitality and company, we all had a great time. Sa uulitin po. Just let me know sir pagdispose mo na yung electras ha... ;D
Hehe ... kaw unang businahan ko pag dispose ko Electras. Kapag pumuti ang uwak ... ;D ;D
Post by: iiinas on Jul 31, 2011 at 06:54 AM
Hehe ... kaw unang businahan ko pag dispose ko Electras. Kapag pumuti ang uwak ... ;D ;D
:D :D :D
Post by: praktikal on Jul 31, 2011 at 12:17 PM
Hehe ... kaw unang businahan ko pag dispose ko Electras. Kapag pumuti ang uwak ... ;D ;D
A very strong statement. :o
Asa pa kayo. ;D :D ;)
Post by: jao143 on Jul 31, 2011 at 12:31 PM
Post by: praktikal on Jul 31, 2011 at 12:40 PM
wala namang mawawala eh, anung malay natin may himala at pumuti nga ang uwak, hehehe meron atang albino :)
Naku Sir Mark paano yan kung makahuli sila ng albino? Yari ka! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2011 at 03:40 PM
Naku Sir Mark paano yan kung makahuli sila ng albino? Yari ka! ;D ;D ;D
Actually, na-check ko na. May kambal ang Electra ko. Nasa AV Driver.
Post by: jao143 on Jul 31, 2011 at 03:58 PM
Actually, na-check ko na. May kambal ang Electra ko. Nasa AV Driver.
Yes sir mark, confirmed nga. I've just talked to sir Hansen, will audition it together with the 1028be next next saturday ;D
Post by: iiinas on Jul 31, 2011 at 04:48 PM
Yes sir mark, confirmed nga. I've just talked to sir Hansen, will audition it together with the 1028be next next saturday ;D
:o :o :o
Post by: streetsmart on Jul 31, 2011 at 04:52 PM
Yes sir mark, confirmed nga. I've just talked to sir Hansen, will audition it together with the 1028be next next saturday ;D
Heto ang 1028 Be. We auditioned it kasi as a center speaker:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0248.jpg)
Heto naman ang kambal ng 1037 Be ko. Ung speaker, ha! Hindi ung bata (anak ni Jake) ;D:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0194.jpg)
Post by: jao143 on Jul 31, 2011 at 05:02 PM
Heto ang 1028 Be. We auditioned it kasi as a center speaker:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0248.jpg)
Heto naman ang kambal ng 1037 Be ko. Ung speaker, ha! Hindi ung bata (anak ni Jake) ;D:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0194.jpg)
Very nice sir mark (including sit Jake's son) hehehe :)
Post by: van_xer on Aug 04, 2011 at 12:08 AM
Post by: sientobente on Aug 04, 2011 at 12:58 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 13, 2011 at 10:09 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Amps.jpg)
Now, all three Focal Utopia speakers are being driven by Emotiva XPA-1 power amps with a rating of 1000 watts @ 4 ohms. No more worry na baka kulangin ang amps.
Post by: jao143 on Aug 13, 2011 at 10:14 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 13, 2011 at 10:40 PM
congrats sir mark on your emotiva, wala na rin yung xpa5, congrats din kay kagawad :)
Iba ang kumuha ng XPA-5. ;D
Post by: jao143 on Aug 13, 2011 at 11:55 PM
Iba ang kumuha ng XPA-5. ;D
Ganun po ba, anyway good luck sa new owner nang xpa5 :)
Post by: jay2 on Aug 14, 2011 at 01:12 AM
An almost ultimate hometheater system... (2 more ultras ;D)
Sana naka sabay nako ng order sayo ng emotiva kailangan ko din eh ;D
Post by: Stagea on Aug 14, 2011 at 03:55 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 14, 2011 at 05:32 AM
Iba ang kumuha ng XPA-5. ;D
huwaaaaaaat??? tsk tsk tsk!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 14, 2011 at 06:52 AM
wow boss mark just saw your thread hayop ang mga speakers mo!!!! hapgreyd ka na ng mga amps mo rin! Will love to hear your babies. The woofer ng mains mo is 12" right? how about yung center mo? Center mo naka 12" din ba o 8" woofer?. Pati stand ng center channel mo orig ng focal.
An almost ultimate hometheater system... (2 more ultras ;D)
Sana naka sabay nako ng order sayo ng emotiva kailangan ko din eh ;D
Sige punta ka sa weekend. Text ka lang.
The mains have 2 x 11" woofers. One of the woofers acts as a true sub - hanggang 90 Hz lang sya - while the other goes up to 220 Hz yata. Kaya actually 3.5 way ang speaker. Abot sya 25 Hz.
The center has 2 x 8" woofers so it doesn't go as low as the mains.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Aug 14, 2011 at 06:24 PM
See you soon and many thanks. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 14, 2011 at 07:13 PM
Just as I thought sir Mark, gandang tignan. Congrats! I dont know, would it look even better if you swap the 2 Aragons w/ the 2 Emos? Just imagining the blue led meters all playing in one array . . . well, kung hindi lang sana 75lbs. ang isa heheh.
See you soon and many thanks. :)
Syempre mas maganda kung nakahelera ang 3 Emotiva. Problema ay mga kable. Parang short ... pero pwede kong gawan ng paraan. Sige, gawin kong next project yun. ;D
Yup, see you soon. Siguraduhin mong matibay equipment rack mo. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 14, 2011 at 07:25 PM
parang maganda nga ang terno terno ano? ;D
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/emotiva.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 14, 2011 at 07:35 PM
2 x 2 is not equal to 2 x 1. ;D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Aug 14, 2011 at 07:42 PM
ay hindi sir mark... mali ka... yung nasa kaliwa puro mga xpa-1, yung nasa kanan - xpa-2 ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 14, 2011 at 08:28 PM
parang maganda nga ang terno terno ano? ;D
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh140/jakedavid_2004/emotiva.jpg)
Bagay nga!
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 14, 2011 at 09:35 PM
ay hindi sir mark... mali ka... yung nasa kaliwa puro mga xpa-1, yung nasa kanan - xpa-2 ;D
Ah ok ... ;D
Post by: Stagea on Aug 14, 2011 at 10:07 PM
See you soon and many thanks. :)
Congrats Master Luther! Sumisimple. ;)
Post by: pchin on Oct 05, 2011 at 12:02 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 05, 2011 at 12:23 PM
Phew...It's always a pleasant experience visiting Mark's awesome HT. I'm immune to SARS attack for almost one year & suddenly after visited Mark's place...BOOM! I'm infected!! :-\ ;Dgoing focals ? :D
Post by: misteryoso on Oct 05, 2011 at 02:07 PM
Post by: pchin on Oct 05, 2011 at 02:27 PM
going focals ? :D
Haha wish I could, that's way beyond my reach! :D
Post by: lithium_deuteride on Oct 05, 2011 at 02:56 PM
Great pics. Care to share camera settings, lens type etc.? Did you us multi flash units? Shot in raw and did processing work? I know how hard it is to take indoor photos that are as sharp as those.
As for the HT, dayum!.
Post by: streetsmart on Oct 05, 2011 at 09:53 PM
Phew...It's always a pleasant experience visiting Mark's awesome HT. I'm immune to SARS attack for almost one year & suddenly after visited Mark's place...BOOM! I'm infected!! :-\ ;D
Hi Paul! Thanks for visiting my HT and watching the new Star Wars BD! Your HT is still among the best in pinoydvd! :)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:48 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Subutopia.jpg)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 07:15 AM
Ito sana ang maganda (except for the color) ...bro mark broken link ;D
(http://www.ultrahighendforum.com/download/file.php?id=3540)
Post by: Stagea on Nov 16, 2011 at 01:35 PM
Ito sana ang maganda (except for the color) ...
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/Subutopia.jpg)
Papalit or dadagdag ba ng subs, sir Mark? New model ata yan. :)
Post by: praktikal on Nov 16, 2011 at 02:17 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 02:36 PM
Papalit or dadagdag ba ng subs, sir Mark? New model ata yan. :)
This is the first time I've seen these subs. I think they are Focal Sub Utopia EM's. Their drivers don't have permanent magnets. Instead, they use powerful electromagnets. Looks like they use 16" woofers. I don't think there is an SRP yet.
Post by: Stagea on Nov 16, 2011 at 03:25 PM
This is the first time I've seen these subs. I think they are Focal Sub Utopia EM's. Their drivers don't have permanent magnets. Instead, they use powerful electromagnets. Looks like they use 16" woofers. I don't think there is an SRP yet.
I see. That's similar in tech to the Grande Utopia EM's 16" woofer then. :)
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 16, 2011 at 04:19 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 05:12 PM
I see. That's similar in tech to the Grande Utopia EM's 16" woofer then. :)
Yes ... and the Stella Utopia EM. It's a brand new tech. I wonder how it sounds. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 05:14 PM
nice subs! :o how about the fronts sir? grande o stella na ba? ;) ;)
Ano ba ibig mo sabihin? ;D
D kakasya mga yan sa munti kong room. :)
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:15 PM
Ano ba ibig mo sabihin? ;Djust a hunch. :D yun lang naman ang possible upgrade from maestro.
D kakasya mga yan sa munti kong room. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:18 PM
just a hunch. :D yun lang naman ang possible upgrade from maestro.
Good point! Good idea! ;D
Post by: iiinas on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:21 PM
Good point! Good idea! ;D
dibs ako sa maestro sir mark ha... ;)
BWAHAHA! in my dreams!!!
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:24 PM
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:38 PM
dibs na lang sa purple shirt! ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 06:42 PM
sayang naunahan ako ni kagawad, di na papakawalan yan. ;D
dibs na lang sa purple shirt! ;D
Ay sorry. D pwede yun. Rare yun. ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 16, 2011 at 08:54 PM
Yes ... and the Stella Utopia EM. It's a brand new tech. I wonder how it sounds. :)
Just remember i was the first one to congratulate you. ;D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 08:55 PM
This is the first time I've seen these subs. I think they are Focal Sub Utopia EM's. Their drivers don't have permanent magnets. Instead, they use powerful electromagnets. Looks like they use 16" woofers. I don't think there is an SRP yet.bro mark ano difference sa speaker with electromagnets? ibig sabihin ba kailangan ng external power supply ng speaker na gagamit nito? :)
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 16, 2011 at 09:15 PM
bro mark ano difference sa speaker with electromagnets? ibig sabihin ba kailangan ng external power supply ng speaker na gagamit nito? :)
Correct bro. :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 16, 2011 at 09:18 PM
thanks sa reply bro.
Correct bro. :)
bro mark bili ka na bago ang xmas fartee ;D ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 09:18 PM
bro mark ano difference sa speaker with electromagnets? ibig sabihin ba kailangan ng external power supply ng speaker na gagamit nito? :)
Yes. There's a dedicated power supply for the electromagnet of the woofer. Quite unusual nga. Ordinary magnets have certain physical limitations. The electromagnet-powered woofer has up to 4x less distortion than an ordinary woofer. Frankly, though, I haven't heard it yet. Hopefully, soon.
Post by: Stagea on Nov 16, 2011 at 09:25 PM
Kung mag Grande Utopia EM si Sir Mark, baka maging pang wide channels na lang yung Maestro. :o
Tapos dedicated bass amps for the EM drivers. 8)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 16, 2011 at 09:37 PM
Aside from the EM motor, ang ganda ng passives ng Grande Utopia. :)
Kung mag Grande Utopia EM si Sir Mark, baka maging pang wide channels na lang yung Maestro. :o
Tapos dedicated bass amps for the EM drivers. 8)
Di pwede yan. D kasya. My room would need to be about 10 feet wider which means I'd need a new house. Hopefully, in 10 years time. :)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 16, 2011 at 09:44 PM
Di pwede yan. D kasya. My room would need to be about 10 feet wider which means I'd need a new house. Hopefully, in 10 years time. :)
Oo nga. Stella na lang. ;)
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 16, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Oo nga. Stella na lang. ;)dumaan na kaya ang streetcar named desire? ;D
Ay sorry. D pwede yun. Rare yun. ;Dgagawa na lang ako ng sa kin para tukayo rin shirt natin. ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Stagea on Nov 16, 2011 at 11:50 PM
Di pwede yan. D kasya. My room would need to be about 10 feet wider which means I'd need a new house. Hopefully, in 10 years time. :)
Ayun o, antayin namin yan sir. :) Though maski na sa current room, for the meantime pwede naman adjust yung curve ng LF output nung Grande EM. ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 17, 2011 at 06:00 AM
Ayun o, antayin namin yan sir. :) Though maski na sa current room, for the meantime pwede naman adjust yung curve ng LF output nung Grande EM. ;)
Consider this -- The electromagnet (EM) of the Grande Utopia serves only the 16" bass woofer, which goes from subsonic up to 80 Hz. From there, the 11" mid-bass driver takes over and it doesn't use an electromagnet. Therefore, only the frequencies up to 80 Hz benefit from the EM.
The Stella Utopia has an EM which serves a 13" woofer that goes up to 220 Hz. Therefore, the benefit of the EM is felt all the way up to 220 Hz, and those are very critical frequencies.
In a way, the Stella Utopia has more value than the Grande Utopia.
Post by: Stagea on Nov 17, 2011 at 11:03 AM
Consider this -- The electromagnet (EM) of the Grande Utopia serves only the 16" bass woofer, which goes from subsonic up to 80 Hz. From there, the 11" mid-bass driver takes over and it doesn't use an electromagnet. Therefore, only the frequencies up to 80 Hz benefit from the EM.
The Stella Utopia has an EM which serves a 13" woofer that goes up to 220 Hz. Therefore, the benefit of the EM is felt all the way up to 220 Hz, and those are very critical frequencies.
In a way, the Stella Utopia has more value than the Grande Utopia.
Both are truly wonderful speakers, I am sure. I would think that the desired performance above 80Hz is achievable with a more conventional motor design though, which is probably why Focal went with that for the Grande EM's dedicated midbass.
Limiting the bandwidth fed to each driver type and designing specialized enclosures for each should also have its advantages. The ability to focus/aim the drivers in the vertical axis is also an added plus.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 17, 2011 at 12:53 PM
Both are truly wonderful speakers, I am sure. I would think that the desired performance above 80Hz is achievable with a more conventional motor design though, which is probably why Focal went with that for the Grande EM's dedicated midbass.
Limiting the bandwidth fed to each driver type and designing specialized enclosures for each should also have its advantages. The ability to focus/aim the drivers in the vertical axis is also an added plus.
Good points.
On the other hand, multiple drivers create more complications at the crossover points. Also, I'm not really sure if there was a conscious decision that the mid-bass woofer doesn't need the electromagnet. My thinking is that the design of the Grande Utopia has traditionally been 4-way so they simply maintained that and it would have been too complicated to use electromagnets for 2 woofers (thus requiring 2 separate power supplies per speaker).
The Stella predecessors have traditionally been 3-way so you end up, by default, with the woofer with the electromagnet handling frequencies all the way up to 220 Hz.
In other words, I think that part of the design was dictated by tradition. Of course, the best way to resolve this is to have a blind test of the Grande vs. the Stella. Hahaha! In our dreams.
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 17, 2011 at 02:56 PM
Good points.uy may agenda na for the next EB! ;D di naman malabong mangyari yan, kaya nga DREAM THEATER e. ;)
On the other hand, multiple drivers create more complications at the crossover points. Also, I'm not really sure if there was a conscious decision that the mid-bass woofer doesn't need the electromagnet. My thinking is that the design of the Grande Utopia has traditionally been 4-way so they simply maintained that and it would have been too complicated to use electromagnets for 2 woofers (thus requiring 2 separate power supplies per speaker).
The Stella predecessors have traditionally been 3-way so you end up, by default, with the woofer with the electromagnet handling frequencies all the way up to 220 Hz.
In other words, I think that part of the design was dictated by tradition. Of course, the best way to resolve this is to have a blind test of the Grande vs. the Stella. Hahaha! In our dreams.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 17, 2011 at 07:17 PM
Good points.
On the other hand, multiple drivers create more complications at the crossover points.
Kung ako ang naka-focal, these would be the least of my concern. ;D
In other words, I think that part of the design was dictated by tradition. Of course, the best way to resolve this is to have a blind test of the Grande vs. the Stella. Hahaha! In our dreams.
In your dream theater. ;) Magandang A/B test nga.
Hindi kaya kaya naka-electromagnets and Stella cuz mataas nga ang cut of niya so as to provide a better grip on the driver? Pero Grande ako. :D This is one speaker where you definitely would not use a subwoofer na. Saan kaya mag-start ang roll-off ng grande sa lows...?
Post by: Stagea on Nov 21, 2011 at 07:39 AM
Pero Grande ako. :D This is one speaker where you definitely would not use a subwoofer na. Saan kaya mag-start ang roll-off ng grande sa lows...?
Nelson,
Sige Grande ka na, makiki-rinig na lang kami. It's nearly flat (-3dB) to 18Hz, and goes down to 14Hz at -6dB in an anechoic chamber (I think). Inside a typical room, it would probably go even lower. The great part is that it reaches those frequencies with very low distortion, and it can play loud with minimal compression. I can't say the same for many subs on the market.
Sir Mark,
Congrats sa major major surprise sa weekend! :) I'm sure super ganda yan, and something that dreams are made of. :)
Regarding the driver config:
Being 4-way or 3-way may indeed be due to tradition in this case -- and admittedly, we're already splitting hairs at this level of performance. As for the crossover issues, I'm sure Focal had taken extra care to minimize that in their flagship speaker (why would they stop at that when they've already gone all the way with adjustable focus time), especially since the Utopias have always been known to utilize among the best passive componentry in the industry (for domestic audio, mobile audio and the studio).
Theoretically, because of the limited bandwidth, a dedicated midbass could be made to have less reciprocating mass (it's easier to make a smaller cone more rigid, and a low Fs point may no longer be necessary), matched to a more compliant suspension (because there is less inertial mass to control/damp), and placed on a more sympathetic dedicated enclosure. This would reduce the need for such a strong motor (such as that in the EM woofer) in delivering the high efficiency and low distortion design goals.
The larger subwoofer would usually play lower, and the extra driver displacement (granted the linear range remains the same) means that it can reproduce a greater scale without being plagued by motor and/or suspension non-linearity (making it play cleaner, as long as it remains within its usable operating range). In the Grande Utopia's case, the reduction in the sub's upper range performance would likely be covered by the dedicated midbass assembly.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 21, 2011 at 09:32 AM
Before anything else, please take time to read the ff:
http://www.excelia-hifi.cz/focal/focal-grande-utopia-em-the_story.pdf
It's an incredible story about how the Grande Utopia EM was designed and developed, over a period of almost 3 years.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 25, 2011 at 05:46 PM
Next time na mga descriptions and pics. Isa lang masasabi -- the bass is incredible.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0001-1.jpg)
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Post by: frootloops on Nov 25, 2011 at 05:56 PM
Ano nanaman yan Senor?!?!
Post by: blackie on Nov 25, 2011 at 05:58 PM
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:00 PM
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I second that!
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
That's HUUUGGGEEE sir mark!
Can't wait to hear it in person!
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:16 PM
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:23 PM
di ko makita ano ba yung nasa pics?
may malaking ano brader! malaki siya! grabe ang laki! ;D ;D ;D
congrats sir Mark!!! 8) 8) 8)
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:30 PM
may malaking ano brader! malaki siya! grabe ang laki! ;D ;D ;D
congrats sir Mark!!! 8) 8) 8)
I think mas mabigat siya sa iyo, pero d ako sure. Bukas natin malaman. ;D ;D
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:33 PM
I think mas mabigat siya sa iyo, pero d ako sure. Bukas natin malaman. ;D ;D
Kaya ako buhatin ng dalawang tao sir... eh yan siyam ang bumuhat!!! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:39 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 25, 2011 at 06:40 PM
I think mas mabigat siya sa iyo, pero d ako sure. Bukas natin malaman. ;D ;D
pambhira talaga sir mark, ampunin mo na talaga ako wooohoooo
congrats ;)
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 25, 2011 at 07:06 PM
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Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 25, 2011 at 09:36 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0012.jpg)natawa ako dun sa far right na lalake, parang nasa kanya ang buong bigat ng speakers :)
Post by: raptor on Nov 25, 2011 at 09:56 PM
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 25, 2011 at 10:11 PM
patindi ng patindi sir Mark!
Post by: Billabong on Nov 25, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Can't wait to hear her sing tom!! 8)
Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2011 at 02:21 AM
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Post by: stilljey on Nov 26, 2011 at 05:39 AM
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Nov 26, 2011 at 05:42 AM
Congratz on your new acquisition :)
Post by: SETUP™ on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:14 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:23 AM
Post by: anya618 on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:26 AM
Quote
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0015-1.jpg)
namumula na ung isa sa bigat :D
Post by: SETUP™ on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:26 AM
Next chapter ata dito, yun built-in sub sa flooring na may cement horns that can go 5hz. ;D;D ;D ;D
Post by: pchin on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:46 AM
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7030/6402038041_ec591461c1_z.jpg)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6402080229_81ec7b3211_z.jpg)
Those speakers are
Post by: ricky on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:48 AM
Post by: praktikal on Nov 26, 2011 at 07:51 AM
Sir Mark, pahipo nyan ha... :D
Post by: toys4geeks on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:06 AM
Post by: pchin on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:08 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:09 AM
But actually, 9 people carried each speaker.
Post by: omypet on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:13 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:17 AM
Sir Marc pwede bang magpunta na ngayon dyan at nang marinig na yan? ;D
Post by: juanch on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:27 AM
Post by: jay2 on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:34 AM
Congrats Mark ganda. Pwede na ba magpunta ngayon para konti kalaban sa upuan? ;D ;D ;D
Yan ba yung nakadisplay sa ground floor ng Dusit?
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:55 AM
Congrats Mark ganda. Pwede na ba magpunta ngayon para konti kalaban sa upuan? ;D ;D ;D
Yan ba yung nakadisplay sa ground floor ng Dusit?
Sige, punta ka na ... but that does not exempt you from the timbangan. ;D ;D
Yes, ung nasa likod na speakers ang nasa Dusit. Yun ang agreement namin ng AV Driver. Display muna nila sa Hifi Show bago dalhin sa bahay.
Post by: jay2 on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:04 AM
Kaya pala nung hifi show nung tinanung kita kung ikaw ang kumuha dinedma mo ako ;D
Dapat Focal Subwoofers din gamitin para full range focal HT na!! If ever na aalisin mo na yung dalawang ultra mo ay papila na ;D ;D
Post by: wengkapre on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:48 AM
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Post by: keema on Nov 26, 2011 at 02:02 PM
Kaw lang ata ang taong "nangangarap" at wala pang "taon" ang nakakalipas eh "natutupad" agad...
Post by: at_sunset_blvd on Nov 26, 2011 at 03:05 PM
Post by: Wildfire™ on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:03 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 26, 2011 at 08:04 PM
Post by: Stagea on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:23 PM
Congrats PDVD for the successful Christmas Party! :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:30 PM
Thanks sir Mark for hosting the Christmas Party and taking great care of us today. It was great to hear those sweet Stellas. :)ditto!!
Congrats PDVD for the successful Christmas Party! :)
Post by: toys4geeks on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:33 PM
Thanks ulit for receiving us all at your home, Ang saya ng mga hosts at very organized thanks to the EB committee.
@all Xmas EB goers:
Pa PM sino ang mga nananalo sa Egreat R6A-ii? remind them to register for warranty tracking @ http://toys4geeks.nexus.ph
gusto ko yung speakers at umaasang manalo eh may biglang emergency naman ako sa bahay, hay, mailap talaga ang magiging match ng speaker ng incoming Aventage 800 ko.
Post by: jao143 on Nov 26, 2011 at 09:50 PM
Post by: ricky on Nov 26, 2011 at 10:03 PM
Post by: shuttertrigger on Nov 26, 2011 at 10:18 PM
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/6383/79345179.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/708/79345179.jpg/)
Post by: blackie on Nov 27, 2011 at 12:24 AM
D na kami nakita nila Stagea!
As always, always good to see you guys!
Thank You Sir Mark for your graciousness and hospitality!
Merry Christmas Boys :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 27, 2011 at 12:27 AM
Kamay ko yun ;Dthe hand .. so whitey! :)
D na kami nakita nila Stagea!
ako naman left eye, nood at kapirasong buhok :D :D
Post by: Stagea on Nov 27, 2011 at 05:46 AM
Kamay ko yun ;D
D na kami nakita nila Stagea!
Medyo mababa ata yung stand. Marami naman tayong ibang pictures, as there were a lot of flashes last night. Para kang celebrity sigurado sa dami nyan. :)
Happy Holidays to All!
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 27, 2011 at 05:47 AM
Post by: stickfighter on Nov 27, 2011 at 06:12 AM
To those who may not have an idea how big these are, please see reference pic below...I am 5'9" in height....BEHOLD!!! 8)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/banksescrima/Stela.jpg)
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 27, 2011 at 06:54 AM
So what is the grand raffle prize? who won?
Merry Christmas to all
Post by: ricky on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:00 AM
Congrats sir Mark on your huge upgrade. Man I really want to listen to those..Sayang I couldn't make it because of family matters. I'm sure the party was a blast as always.
So what is the grand raffle prize? who won?
Merry Christmas to all
Ang daming grand priceS, 42" plasma from sight and sounds, focal sib speakers from avdi, 3pcs egreat nmt from toysforgeeks, med8ter 500x2 from ehome, psb c60 huge center speaker from watt hifi, playon nmt from topper etc. And umulan ng bd titles :o steel books and all. Meron din Sheraton hotel accommodations and bupets ika nga ni onkyo666 ;D and also 2 sets of amazing DIY speakers from master anthony ;) also thank you sa focal caps, kahit man Lang sa cap naka focal ako ;)
Post by: Moks007 on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:14 AM
Ang daming grand priceS, 42" plasma from sight and sounds, focal sib speakers from avdi, 3pcs egreat nmt from toysforgeeks, med8ter 500x2 from ehome, psb c60 huge center speaker from watt hifi, playon nmt from topper etc. And umulan ng bd titles :o steel books and all. Meron din Sheraton hotel accommodations and bupets ika nga ni onkyo666 ;D
Hay naku darn it, I missed it. Sayang, suerte pa ako recently sa raffle ;D
Thanks sir.
Merry Christmas
Post by: plapoy on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:23 AM
Post by: praktikal on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:39 AM
Isa kang Alamat talaga!
Ang Matindi sa Stella na yan Amigos/Braders, si Sir Mark lang ang meron nyan sa Pinas at ganun din sa Grande. Pero yung may-ari ng Grande nagdidelikado na yan dahil baka ilang buwan lang di na sya nag-iisa. ;D :D ;)
See you later po. Sana may lutong Original Buko Pie pag daan namin. ;)
Nag PM na ako kay Sir Vic sa pasasalamat at sana wag silang magsawang sumuporta sa tropa at sana next time umattend din sya. :)
Post by: toys4geeks on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:47 AM
Ang daming grand priceS, 42" plasma from sight and sounds, focal sib speakers from avdi, 3pcs egreat nmt from toysforgeeks, med8ter 500x2 from ehome, psb c60 huge center speaker from watt hifi, playon nmt from topper etc. And umulan ng bd titles :o steel books and all. Meron din Sheraton hotel accommodations and bupets ika nga ni onkyo666 ;D
sa nanalo ng psb c60 center speaker - puede mo idonate to a good cause-- mine hehehe
Post by: gaol on Nov 27, 2011 at 09:08 AM
sa nanalo ng psb c60 center speaker - puede mo idonate to a good cause-- mine hehehe
Hehehe as akin po napunta! Salamat at naibaba ko sa hagdan ni Mark. Special request ng AVDi: next upgrade mo daw e service elevator!!! :-D
Many thanks again to our ever gracious host, Mark, the organizing committee, the hosts dolphy and panchito este Nelson and Tirso, and all the sponsors from the minor to the major major. Including personal thanks to Watt Hifi for the PSB C60 (kaya lang meron pa bang image t65/t55/t45 and s50?) and Noel of Audio Amplified for the Xindak power cord and speaker cable raffle prizes! Ang saya saya!
Post by: Marl☆1 on Nov 27, 2011 at 09:23 AM
To those who may not have an idea how big these are, please see reference pic below...I am 5'9" in height....BEHOLD!!! 8)
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc250/banksescrima/Stela.jpg)
Congrats Mark and Crew for another successful Xmas EB. Grabe, these focals can swallow you up, sayang wasn't able to attend (I was able to send Shamsey naman ;D as a representative). Merry Christmas Mark and cheers on the upgrade! ;)
Post by: juanch on Nov 27, 2011 at 09:31 AM
The party was a blast and your speakers was just incredible.
Star Wars Ep.1 podrace scene never sounded as real as it was with your speakers.
And it was a pleasure meeting familiar faces and new ones as well.
Congratulations to all the winners!! ;)
Post by: ricky on Nov 27, 2011 at 09:42 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 27, 2011 at 02:24 PM
Let me reserve my comments on the Stella speakers until after I've set them up properly. Maybe my initial comment is that they have so little distortion that you can listen really loud and di masakit sa tenga. It's really surprising.
Post by: Billabong on Nov 27, 2011 at 05:10 PM
Ang ganda ni Stella!! :o
Post by: otep_32 on Nov 27, 2011 at 05:20 PM
Hehehe as akin po napunta! Salamat at naibaba ko sa hagdan ni Mark. Special request ng AVDi: next upgrade mo daw e service elevator!!! :-DThanks sir gaol..Hanapan kita partner ng center mo.kumasya po ba sa av rack mo? ;)
Many thanks again to our ever gracious host, Mark, the organizing committee, the hosts dolphy and panchito este Nelson and Tirso, and all the sponsors from the minor to the major major. Including personal thanks to Watt Hifi for the PSB C60 (kaya lang meron pa bang image t65/t55/t45 and s50?) and Noel of Audio Amplified for the Xindak power cord and speaker cable raffle prizes! Ang saya saya!
Thanks again sir Mark.
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 27, 2011 at 07:43 PM
Many thanks for inviting us sa napaganda nyo po na HT room.
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 27, 2011 at 08:01 PM
To be honestly brutal, hindi ako napagod this time, I was so at ease even at high volumes! The sonics of the Stella is so well balanced, top to bottom. Audio or HT she was a winner in all aspects, Eq'd or direct, still a winner!
This upgrade of yours is the one that makes the most impact of all upgrades, swabe and hindi nakakapagod makinig! Galing!
Next time, special request ko ulit yun Drumbone track ng The Blue Man Group at 0dB!!! ;D ;D ;D
Huwag ka masyado matakot, the Stella's are rated to handle 1000W and with your 1000W mono amps, I'm sure clipping will be a thing of the past!
Maraming marami salamat po ulit sa inyo, may you have good health and more wealth for more upcoming upgrades and EBs!!! God Bless you sir!
Jojo
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 27, 2011 at 08:56 PM
Kamay ko yun ;D
D na kami nakita nila Stagea!
As always, always good to see you guys!
Thank You Sir Mark for your graciousness and hospitality!
Merry Christmas Boys :D
ako nagdikit nung posters na yun, too bad sobrang trapik and hindi na ako nakabalik. Salamat ulit Sir Mark!
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2011 at 07:13 AM
Next time, special request ko ulit yun Drumbone track ng The Blue Man Group at 0dB!!! ;D ;D ;D
Huwag ka masyado matakot, the Stella's are rated to handle 1000W and with your 1000W mono amps, I'm sure clipping will be a thing of the past!
Jojo
Salamat sa comments mo. I always value your views highly because firstly, they are based on science, a good ear and a lot of experience. Secondly, you are typically, as you have said, brutally honest. ;D
Di ako natatakot to jack up the volume to reference levels if the only speakers playing are the fronts (pati na center, but wala naman material that uses 3 channels) because of the ratings of these speakers and power amps (up to 1000 watts). I worry about the surrounds because they aren't huge speakers and even if the amps go up to 200 watts per channel RMS, baka kulang pa rin at reference level. The problem is that with some material (not a lot but some) played at very high levels (around -3 db), the surrounds have been acting up. Lately, parang may static. Dati, they bottomed out with Tron:Legacy. This usually happens if the material has an overpowering all-around sound (not just fronts but also surrounds) that is sustained.
By the way, for those who aren't familiar with "reference level", this is that level at which a recording was mixed. For film, there is a strict standard, which is an average of 85 db at the listening position and 105 db peaks, except for the LFE channel which can have 115 db peaks. Reference level is important because human perception of bass (and even treble) varies with volume. At lower volumes, you need to adjust bass upwards in order to "hear" the same amount of bass. Thus, it is only at reference level that you hear the sound with the bass, mid-range and treble in balance, exactly as it was intended by the mixer.
For music, there is no standard. Kanya-kanyang diskarte and that's why some music recordings are very loud, others are soft while others are super-compressed so that everything sounds loud (even softer tracks). This is another major reason why I didn't want to listen to Blue Man Group at 0.0 db because I'm not sure if that disc was mastered with standards similar to film. Malay natin that the mixer's reference standard was at -5.0 db? Ang lakas na kasi sobra when we listened! ;D
If you use a Denon AVR with Audyssey MultEQ, "reference level" is at 0.0 db. Onkyo also uses Audyssey MultEQ but I'm not sure at what reading is their "reference level". If you try to listen at reference level, you will typically very quickly give up. Nakakabingi. Most people listen at -15 db to -20 db. It's only when you have a very good room and system that you can listen at reference level without your ears bleeding.
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 28, 2011 at 08:25 AM
If you use a Denon AVR with Audyssey MultEQ, "reference level" is at 0.0 db. Onkyo also uses Audyssey MultEQ but I'm not sure at what reading is their "reference level". If you try to listen at reference level, you will typically very quickly give up. Nakakabingi. Most people listen at -15 db to -20 db. It's only when you have a very good room and system that you can listen at reference level without your ears bleeding.81 yata ang absolute value nya bro mark :)
Post by: ricky on Nov 28, 2011 at 08:35 AM
Post by: blackie on Nov 28, 2011 at 10:22 AM
I'm very sure kaya yan ng surrounds mo master mark even at deeps of 120db :o. After hooking up my multi line output/inputs mas inclined na ako listen at 85db, iba yung feeling talaga.
Baka mabingi ka nyan sustained listening at 85db brother Ricky. ;D Have to admit too though, different experience talaga nyan!!!
Post by: JojoD818 on Nov 28, 2011 at 11:29 AM
Salamat sa comments mo. I always value your views highly because firstly, they are based on science, a good ear and a lot of experience. Secondly, you are typically, as you have said, brutally honest. ;D
It's the least I can do sir Mark, besides, friends don't lie to each other! ;D
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Di ako natatakot to jack up the volume to reference levels if the only speakers playing are the fronts (pati na center, but wala naman material that uses 3 channels) because of the ratings of these speakers and power amps (up to 1000 watts). I worry about the surrounds because they aren't huge speakers and even if the amps go up to 200 watts per channel RMS, baka kulang pa rin at reference level. The problem is that with some material (not a lot but some) played at very high levels (around -3 db), the surrounds have been acting up. Lately, parang may static. Dati, they bottomed out with Tron:Legacy. This usually happens if the material has an overpowering all-around sound (not just fronts but also surrounds) that is sustained.
Kaya pala naman, yes, I understand that there are some tracks that also overpower the surrounds to such end that they bottom out. Nararanasan ko yan kaya napapa atras din ako minsan. ;D
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By the way, for those who aren't familiar with "reference level", this is that level at which a recording was mixed. For film, there is a strict standard, which is an average of 85 db at the listening position and 105 db peaks, except for the LFE channel which can have 115 db peaks. Reference level is important because human perception of bass (and even treble) varies with volume. At lower volumes, you need to adjust bass upwards in order to "hear" the same amount of bass. Thus, it is only at reference level that you hear the sound with the bass, mid-range and treble in balance, exactly as it was intended by the mixer.
Another excellent piece of info sir Mark! The reason why sometimes I like to listen at reference levels is that this is the only level at which you'll hear maximum attack and decay of a signal as intended by the mixer. This is also where all the signal "drama" is most of the time, though it is very dangerous to do especially with poorly built and matched systems. So don't everybody try this at home! ;D
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For music, there is no standard. Kanya-kanyang diskarte and that's why some music recordings are very loud, others are soft while others are super-compressed so that everything sounds loud (even softer tracks). This is another major reason why I didn't want to listen to Blue Man Group at 0.0 db because I'm not sure if that disc was mastered with standards similar to film. Malay natin that the mixer's reference standard was at -5.0 db? Ang lakas na kasi sobra when we listened! ;D
Ah, the Loudness Wars... this started in broadcast engineering but soon landed itself in recorded material because humans perceive loudness as more music. And as Jason said during the last HiFi Show... "Everything will tend to sound good at over 100dB!"...
Ganun talaga yun Drumbone, mahina lang sa umpisa... then bang! ;D ;D ;D
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If you use a Denon AVR with Audyssey MultEQ, "reference level" is at 0.0 db. Onkyo also uses Audyssey MultEQ but I'm not sure at what reading is their "reference level". If you try to listen at reference level, you will typically very quickly give up. Nakakabingi. Most people listen at -15 db to -20 db. It's only when you have a very good room and system that you can listen at reference level without your ears bleeding.
Hindi ako makaka relate sir Mark... Yamaha gamit ko AVR eh... ;D ;D ;D
Thanks!
Post by: praktikal on Nov 28, 2011 at 11:37 AM
Nagpademo tuloy kami kay Hansen and impressed na naman sya. Next target jackpot -- LOTTO! :o ;D
Got the 32" & 24" LCDs from SnS. Bait ni Sir Vic although wala sya dun. :(
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 28, 2011 at 04:31 PM
Thats one thing i have heard so differently with the new speakers, i can feel the brute power yet im hearing the sweet sound and swabeng dating sa tenga, when we tried listening at +5db, i felt the brute power without fatiguing my ears, the sound puts you inside a huge envelop and that everything just becomes part of you.
one thing bigger and better than your stella though is not the grande but your generosity and kindness.may you continue to have good health and more years ahead of you, thank you so much to you and your family for always welcoming us to your home.
Onkyo is at 0db(infinite volume setting) and 82db(absolute volume setting) as well similar to Denon for reference level. I am slowly exploring this part as I have not gone past beyond 65 db eversince but tried the blue man group at 70 db over the weekend and it seems i can go beyond it eventually. Its really a different experiece trying to crank it up that high.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 28, 2011 at 07:34 PM
Grabe naman ang Stella sir Mark relax na relax kumanta even at -2.5db composed pa din at effortless, ang linis pa din tumunog. Tho' not broken in yet, the improvement in the highs & mids are already evident. Ano pa kaya after 300hrs.? Naisip ko bigla parang sa HD video 1080p ang Stella 720p naman ang Maestro pero pareho sila hi-definition. Congrats! Stella is definitely an upgrade sir Mark. :)
Post by: iiinas on Nov 28, 2011 at 08:14 PM
thanks also for giving a glimpse of the monster before the eb... here are some pics i was able to take aside from the great photos taken already by sir pchin, it was a pity i was not able to see the stellas and the maestros together, that could have been a one in a million moment...
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7032/6405891819_ec4bd6c9ea.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405891819/)
IMG_1031 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405891819/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
thanks sir mark for posing for me, just a size check on how humongous these stellas are!!! :o :o :o
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7008/6405897815_f0b8402019.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405897815/)
IMG_1235 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405897815/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
the focal badge...
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6405884015_695bfcb032.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405884015/)
focal stella utopia (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405884015/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
STELLA!!!
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7175/6405887447_ca5268ac9f.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405887447/)
IMG_1025 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405887447/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
i don't know what this device is called, but definitely the "thing" that provides power to the electromagnets of the stella woofer!!!
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6109/6405889319_5e9591b0df.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405889319/)
IMG_1026 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/6405889319/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
the device up close and personal!!!
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 28, 2011 at 09:11 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2011 at 09:54 PM
one thing bigger and better than your stella though is not the grande but your generosity and kindness.may you continue to have good health and more years ahead of you, thank you so much to you and your family for always welcoming us to your home.
Salamat! I really appreciate it.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2011 at 09:59 PM
Grabe naman ang Stella sir Mark relax na relax kumanta even at -2.5db composed pa din at effortless, ang linis pa din tumunog. Tho' not broken in yet, the improvement in the highs & mids are already evident. Ano pa kaya after 300hrs.? Naisip ko bigla parang sa HD video 1080p ang Stella 720p naman ang Maestro pero pareho sila hi-definition. Congrats! Stella is definitely an upgrade sir Mark. :)
Actually, just based on specs and its construction, the major improvement of the Stella over the Maestro is supposed to be in the bass frequencies. Yet, it is very true that there is a very clear improvement in the mids and highs. This is in spite of the fact that the tweeters are the same and the mids are the same (except that the Stella has 2 mids). I would attribute the difference to the cabinet. Somehow, the cabinet has helped improve the mids and highs significantly better, something I never expected.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2011 at 10:07 PM
sir mark, my neighbor!!! congrats to another great xmas eb...
thanks also for giving a glimpse of the monster before the eb... here are some pics i was able to take aside from the great photos taken already by sir pchin, it was a pity i was not able to see the stellas and the maestros together, that could have been a one in a million moment...
Salamat! As usual, champion ang pictures mo!
Meron ngang iba na nag-akala na photoshop lang ang mga pictures ng Stella and Maestro combined. Totoo yun. Bago kinuha ang Maestro, pinakinggan muna namin na Wides sya and kinunan ng pictures ni Pchin ang Maestro and Stella. Ang ganda talaga ng tunog at ng itsura pero di magandang idea yun. The Wide speakers are not worthy of the Maestro - overkill. Next audio upgrade? Maybe surrounds. Maybe Focal Utopia sub? Ewan. ;D
Post by: Conan on Nov 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Salamat! As usual, champion ang pictures mo!
Meron ngang iba na nag-akala na photoshop lang ang mga pictures ng Stella and Maestro combined. Totoo yun. Bago kinuha ang Maestro, pinakinggan muna namin na Wides sya and kinunan ng pictures ni Pchin ang Maestro and Stella. Ang ganda talaga ng tunog at ng itsura pero di magandang idea yun. The Wide speakers are not worthy of the Maestro - overkill. Next audio upgrade? Maybe surrounds. Maybe Focal Utopia sub? Ewan. ;D
Pwede kaya Maestro as rears, para wala ng kaba sa reference level? ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2011 at 10:13 PM
Sir mark, malapit ka nang abutan sa height ng mga speakers mo in every upgrade mo. :) Paano pa kapag EM grande na...
Kaya nga ayaw ko na upgrade sa Grande. Parang daughter ko yan. Halos same height na kami kaya bawal nang tumangkad pa siya. The Grande is 18" higher and 4" wider than the Stella. Masyado nang malaki. Of course, meron nang Grande sa Manila at kung ibenta ng may-ari ng mura ... ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2011 at 10:20 PM
Pwede kaya Maestro as rears, para wala ng kaba sa reference level? ;D
Wala ako problem sa surround backs. Problem is surrounds. Yung nasa sides. The Maestros are 250 lbs each and the surrounds are mounted about 9 feet high. Mahirap yata mount ang 250 lbs na speaker 9 feet high.
The other problem is that the surrounds don't need a speaker as good as the Maestro. They don't produce audio material worthy of a Maestro. I need a powerful bookshelf speaker and right now, the only one is the Diablo Utopia, which I also think is overkill. Therefore, malaking problema.
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 29, 2011 at 12:57 AM
Wala ako problem sa surround backs. Problem is surrounds. Yung nasa sides. The Maestros are 250 lbs each and the surrounds are mounted about 9 feet high. Mahirap yata mount ang 250 lbs na speaker 9 feet high.Happy Problem!! Congrats!Sir Mark.My apology for not being able to make it.
The other problem is that the surrounds don't need a speaker as good as the Maestro. They don't produce audio material worthy of a Maestro. I need a powerful bookshelf speaker and right now, the only one is the Diablo Utopia, which I also think is overkill. Therefore, malaking problema.
Post by: gaol on Nov 29, 2011 at 06:57 AM
As for the surrounds, if it will allow you to listen at reference level without fear of blowing your amps and speakers, ika nga may peace of mind ka, it's not overkill... :D ;) ;D hehe
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:13 AM
As for the surrounds, if it will allow you to listen at reference level without fear of blowing your amps and speakers, ika nga may peace of mind ka, it's not overkill... :D ;) ;D hehe
Langya ka, Arn! ;D ;D
Post by: SETUP™ on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:36 AM
Post by: gaol on Nov 29, 2011 at 08:56 AM
Langya ka, Arn! ;D ;D
Haha, isipin mo parang insurance yan.
It's not cheap but you buy peace of mind!!! Hehehe
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 29, 2011 at 09:07 AM
Actually, just based on specs and its construction, the major improvement of the Stella over the Maestro is supposed to be in the bass frequencies. Yet, it is very true that there is a very clear improvement in the mids and highs. This is in spite of the fact that the tweeters are the same and the mids are the same (except that the Stella has 2 mids). I would attribute the difference to the cabinet. Somehow, the cabinet has helped improve the mids and highs significantly better, something I never expected.Aside from the cabinet it should be bcos of the electromagnet woofer itself. Maybe thats how a clean, distortion-free bass should sound its not over-powering the other freq.? Kaya klaro lahat, bass power on demand lang?
Hirap pag bago lang sa audio, puro ako hula :D
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 29, 2011 at 09:07 AM
Haha, isipin mo parang insurance yan.galing bro arn! mukhang linya mo yan ah! :D
It's not cheap but you buy peace of mind!!! Hehehe
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 29, 2011 at 12:51 PM
Aside from the cabinet it should be bcos of the electromagnet woofer itself. Maybe thats how a clean, distortion-free bass should sound its not over-powering the other freq.? Kaya klaro lahat, bass power on demand lang?
Hirap pag bago lang sa audio, puro ako hula :D
Good point. Kasi nga when you do something to improve the bass, madalas na all the other frequencies are improved as well. Di na kasi sila natatabunan ng bass.
Post by: blackie on Nov 29, 2011 at 01:16 PM
Like the others have said, I was surprised at the huge improvement of the sound. Maingay na ang mga tao and yet the Stellas sang very loudly--and more significantly, very cleanly, clearly and sweetly--above the noise of the crowd. And yet walang sakit sa tenga. Buong buo ang tunog lalo na mga vocals.
As for the surrounds, if it will allow you to listen at reference level without fear of blowing your amps and speakers, ika nga may peace of mind ka, it's not overkill... :D ;) ;D hehe
"The answer is blowing in the wind...." ;D ;D ;D
Post by: deo on Nov 29, 2011 at 04:41 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 01, 2011 at 10:26 AM
My wife really enjoyed listening and watching the wonderful soprano performers and she was inspired to sing again :D
Ganda talaga ng Stella, nakaka inlove ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 01, 2011 at 10:46 AM
Sir Marc thanks again for yesterday's classical concert listening session :)
My wife really enjoyed listening and watching the wonderful soprano performers and she was inspired to sing again :D
Ganda talaga ng Stella, nakaka inlove ;D
That's really nice to hear. :)
It's a magical experience to listen to good soprano singers.
Post by: pilyo168 on Dec 03, 2011 at 07:59 PM
Here's a preview of Mark's latest & biggest upgrade! :DSensya na i really have to do this again. ;D ;D ;D
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(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7152/6402080229_81ec7b3211_z.jpg)
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Post by: ryn0128 on Dec 06, 2011 at 07:36 AM
Master mark pa audition naman ng 5 of the best phenom Focals.
Sensya na i really have to do this again. ;D ;D ;D
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WOW!!!! Giants!!! Dapat nga ulit ulitin!:) congrats Sir Mark!
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 06, 2011 at 08:04 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 06, 2011 at 09:08 AM
dang! maestros pang surrounds lang! :o :o :o
Hi tokayo!
As I think I've mentioned earlier, mainly photo-op lang yun. Nang inakyat ang Stella speakers, kinabit ko muna ang Maestros as Wide speakers tapos pinakinggan namin. Ang ganda! Pagkatapos, kinunan ni pchin ng picture at tinangay na ang Maestros. Binili na ang Maestro. Pero ang ganda talaga ng picture kasi once-in-a-lifetime that you can take the Maestros and Stellas in one room.
But honestly, di ko gagawing surrounds ang Maestro. That's a real waste. I've also seen the specs of the Sub Utopia and they only go down to 22 Hz so I'm not interested in them either. Baka Grande Utopia EM, pwede pa. ;D ;D
Post by: Cjtjader on Dec 06, 2011 at 11:27 AM
Hi tokayo!
Baka Grande Utopia EM, pwede pa. ;D ;D
PWDEEEEEEEE, Sir Mark! Merry X'mas po! 8) 8)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 13, 2011 at 06:26 PM
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I recently upgraded my front speakers from Focal Maestro Utopias to Focal Stella Utopia EM’s.
The flagship speakers of Focal are the Grande Utopia EM, they are nearly 7’ high and they weigh 573 pounds each. The Stella Utopia EM speakers are next in line and they are large but look small beside the Grand Utopia. They are 61” high and weigh 363 pounds each.
More important, the Stella Utopia EM speakers are the only other speakers that use the ground-breaking electromagnet (EM) technology. Instead of using a permanent magnet, the Grande and Stella Utopias use an electromagnet which is much more powerful than a standard magnet but lighter. This basically results in 2 to 4 times less distortion and in an incredibly detailed and tight bass. As is typical, this clean-up of the bass frequencies likewise results in clearer mids which are no longer masked by excessive bass ringing and distortion. The Stella speakers love drums and I honestly have never heard such a wonderful reproduction of drums from tympani and kick drum to snare to congas to tom-toms.
The improvement in bass frequencies is confirmed by measurements. Using the XTZ Room Analyzer system, I have verified that the typical modal problems of my room have somehow been significantly tamed. This improvement may be attributed not only to the electromagnet of the Stella but also its passive EQ controls. There are 2 controls for the bass, 2 for the tweeter and 1 for the mid-range, each with 3 settings. This results in 243 possible combinations, which is an audiophile’s dream. Using these controls, combined with the acoustic treatment of the room and proper speaker placement, you can get very nice sound quality, which is then finally passed through the electronic EQ treatment of Audyssey MultEQ Pro that results in excellent frequency response and reduced ringing.
Fortunately, it is not only the bass frequencies which are superb but a lot of other things as well. One of the most striking features is the sweetness of its tweeter and mid-range, while retaining the Utopia characteristic of intricate detail. This allows you to jack up the volume, even all the way up to reference level without causing your ears to bleed. How has this been achieved? Maybe the extra mid-range tweeter? Maybe the new cabinet? I don’t know but it results in incredibly sweet sound, a deep soundstage and airiness surrounding the musical instruments. I would describe this as a 3D sound with instruments floating in the air.
Another incredible feature is its astounding dynamic range. It has beautiful detail in both the softest and loudest passages. Even more impressive, when you have a complicated musical passage with a lot of instruments, you can distinctly hear the sound of a tiny triangle piercing through a wall of heavy drum beats – both the heavy boom of big drums and the tiny sparkle of a triangle at the same moment.
Finally, all of this results in a beautifully balanced sound. From the top to the bottom, from violins to upright bass, from trombones to sax, from triangle to cymbals, from soprano to tenor, I have never heard a more accurate reproduction of sound than from the Focal Stella Utopia EM (but of course, I am biased ;D).
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 13, 2011 at 06:50 PM
this is probably how i will get to hear Shamcey Supsup when she is shouting at me. LOUD BUT SWEET and I want more ;D ;D ;D
Post by: mandyb on Dec 13, 2011 at 07:14 PM
Post by: den1224 on Dec 13, 2011 at 08:40 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM
If given the chance I will definitely listen to them again and again.
Very inspiring review too :)
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Post by: dts-HD 3D on Dec 14, 2011 at 09:17 AM
Post by: blackie on Dec 14, 2011 at 10:13 AM
Ever watched "A Streetcar Named Desire" on "Speakers we all Desire? ;D"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1A0p0F_iH8
Pretty sure that whatever you put on, your new Stella's will sing more than well ;D ;D ;D
Happy Holidays :D :D :D
Post by: Billabong on Dec 14, 2011 at 12:12 PM
No plans on upgrading your amps? hehe IMO, mas bagay diyan yung mga ultra hi-end amps dahil ultra hi-end din si Stella. ;D Maganda na siya ngayon with the Emotiva monoblocks pero I'm sure malaki pa ang potential niyan.
Maybe you also want to try changing the cables. I was also a non-believer before until recently when I found out that they do make a significant difference in sound. Especially with your system, I'm sure you will hear even the most subtle differences. :D
And for music/audio, bagay diyan yung Studio Master recordings. These are real 24bit music files usually at 88.2/96/192Khz. Medyo may kamahalan ang albums pero mas maganda ang tunog. :D
Just sharing my recent discoveries. hehe :)
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 14, 2011 at 02:31 PM
while i cant fully understand the technicalities of things sir mark, i am pretty sure about the finesse simultaneous with power and grip, the new speaker allows the listener to enjoy listening at reference level without straining the ears.
this is probably how i will get to hear Shamcey Supsup when she is shouting at me. LOUD BUT SWEET and I want more ;D ;D ;D
Eto ang tinatawag na wishful thinking. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 14, 2011 at 03:13 PM
Very nice review sir Mark! Congrats! ;)
No plans on upgrading your amps? hehe IMO, mas bagay diyan yung mga ultra hi-end amps dahil ultra hi-end din si Stella. ;D Maganda na siya ngayon with the Emotiva monoblocks pero I'm sure malaki pa ang potential niyan.
Maybe you also want to try changing the cables. I was also a non-believer before until recently when I found out that they do make a significant difference in sound. Especially with your system, I'm sure you will hear even the most subtle differences. :D
And for music/audio, bagay diyan yung Studio Master recordings. These are real 24bit music files usually at 88.2/96/192Khz. Medyo may kamahalan ang albums pero mas maganda ang tunog. :D
Just sharing my recent discoveries. hehe :)
Hi Paul!
I suspect that if you have an all-analog system, you might hear differences in cables and amps. The cables and amps behave like crude audio processors, somehow affecting the sound.
However, if you use an all-digital system and do extensive audio digital processing (as I do through Audyssey MultEQ Pro), the effects of those devices is negated and they are therefore not useful.
In my room in particular, since it is relatively narrow, the sound is heavily influenced by boundary effects (the proximity of the speakers to the walls) and without proper equalization, there is a distinct boominess which is not pleasant to hear. I've listened to my old speakers (Maestros) in their new room which is much wider than mine and somehow the boominess is much less than in my room. In other words, the room plays a huge part of the sound and if you don't apply corrections for the effect of the room, the sound will not be great.
In addition, there are a lot of the following material floating in the net, for amps, cables, high-res audio, etc. and a lot of the material is quite compelling: http://www.matrixhifi.com/contenedor_ppec_eng.htm
In lieu of cables and amps, this is what I'd prefer: http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projektoren/Sony_VPL-VW1000/Sony_VW1000_Preview.htm
4k projector. 4x more resolution than Bluray. It can upscale Bluray to a beautiful 4k picture. ;D ;D
Post by: Onkyo606 on Dec 14, 2011 at 03:56 PM
Post by: Billabong on Dec 14, 2011 at 11:32 PM
Hi Paul!
I suspect that if you have an all-analog system, you might hear differences in cables and amps. The cables and amps behave like crude audio processors, somehow affecting the sound.
However, if you use an all-digital system and do extensive audio digital processing (as I do through Audyssey MultEQ Pro), the effects of those devices is negated and they are therefore not useful.
In my room in particular, since it is relatively narrow, the sound is heavily influenced by boundary effects (the proximity of the speakers to the walls) and without proper equalization, there is a distinct boominess which is not pleasant to hear. I've listened to my old speakers (Maestros) in their new room which is much wider than mine and somehow the boominess is much less than in my room. In other words, the room plays a huge part of the sound and if you don't apply corrections for the effect of the room, the sound will not be great.
In addition, there are a lot of the following material floating in the net, for amps, cables, high-res audio, etc. and a lot of the material is quite compelling: http://www.matrixhifi.com/contenedor_ppec_eng.htm
In lieu of cables and amps, this is what I'd prefer: http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projektoren/Sony_VPL-VW1000/Sony_VW1000_Preview.htm
4k projector. 4x more resolution than Bluray. It can upscale Bluray to a beautiful 4k picture. ;D ;D
You're using EQ nga po pala even for audio playback so baka nga negligible yung effect ng cables. Pero sa amp maaaring mas maging more fuller sounding, more dynamic, effortless and more controlled yung tunog kung mag-upgrade kayo ng better and beefier amps na magma-match kay Stella. Pa-home audition po kayo kay Hansen nung mga hi-end amps nila tutal there's no harm in trying and it's fun. hehe ;D If you don't notice any difference at least you're sure na maximized na talaga si Stella with the Emotivas.
Actually before hindi rin ako naniniwala sa difference between cables. Iniisip ko din na baka psychological lang. Until katuwaan lang nagpa-blind test ako to verify kasi ayaw ko nga maniwala. And yun nga may difference akong nadinig. Tapos nakahiram ako ng silver cables. Pagkabit ko pa lang, dinig kaagad yung difference. From a warm sounding system, naging mas neutral, numipis yung boses which I think is better kasi mas tama yung size ng singer at mas dinig yung nuances. Mas naging tunog bakal and airy din yung cymbals. Kaya lang compared to my old cable, wala masyadong bass and impact. Mas engaging, dynamic and fuller sounding yung dating cable. Kaya ngayon searching for a more balanced-sounding cable. Gusto kong makuha yung best of both worlds kung meron ganun. hehe ;D
Yan pala yung sinasabi niyong 4k resolution na projector! :o Nagorder na po kayo?
Bagay na bagay yan sa HT niyo. ;)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 15, 2011 at 07:57 AM
@Sir Mark:
Is this easier to drive than your previous Focal?
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 15, 2011 at 08:51 AM
I think the Stella's woofer doesn't require strong amplification.
@Sir Mark:
Is this easier to drive than your previous Focal?
Yup. The higher efficiency is apparently due to the electromagnet, which is much more powerful than an ordinary magnet. With the same amp, you need a slightly lower gain to reach the same reference level.
The Emotiva XPA-1 amp has a rating of 1000 watts @ 4 ohms and, based on the LED level meter on the front panel, it rarely goes above 40% capacity. Maybe the highest has been 65%. Part of the reason is that I actually have a 40 Hz crossover for the Stellas.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 15, 2011 at 09:15 AM
Yup. The higher efficiency is apparently due to the electromagnet, which is much more powerful than an ordinary magnet. With the same amp, you need a slightly lower gain to reach the same reference level.
The Emotiva XPA-1 amp has a rating of 1000 watts @ 4 ohms and, based on the LED level meter on the front panel, it rarely goes above 40% capacity. Maybe the highest has been 65%. Part of the reason is that I actually have a 40 Hz crossover for the Stellas.
Have you tried running it at full range w/o xover in stereo compared to cutting it at 40hz w/ sub?
Post by: JoeyGS on Dec 17, 2011 at 02:58 PM
i share the same experience sir mark. the Ultra in my old house sounded really nice but with the same amount of room treatment and an even lower gain setting, the ultra sounded way better than the old room compared to the new room. the old one measures 3 M by 3M while the new one 4M by 5M with the side walls not in parallel.
Post by: JoeyGS on Dec 17, 2011 at 03:29 PM
Equalization components merely corrects the room's acoustic response due to shortcomings of the room acoustics.
Post by: Stagea on Dec 17, 2011 at 04:29 PM
A square room or a cube room is the worst room for a HT/Audio room. It is also difficult to treat. So its good that you now have a rectangular room.
I agree. I have an untreated one. ;)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 17, 2011 at 06:05 PM
I agree. I have an untreated one. ;)
Maski di naman treated ang palace HT room mo, eh 300 square meters ang HT room mo eh. Sa lawak nun, minimal treatment na lang.
Post by: Stagea on Dec 17, 2011 at 06:12 PM
Maski di naman treated ang palace HT room mo, eh 300 square meters ang HT room mo eh. Sa lawak nun, minimal treatment na lang.
Nalimutan mo yung milli. 300 square millimeters.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Dec 17, 2011 at 06:16 PM
Nalimutan mo yung milli. 300 square millimeters.
Mali. Meters talaga. ;D
Pero master, properly treating a room can be also considered a very good audio upgrade. Nag-iiba ang SQ ng gears in a treated room. ;)
Post by: Stagea on Dec 17, 2011 at 06:36 PM
Mali. Meters talaga. ;D
Pero master, properly treating a room can be also considered a very good audio upgrade. Nag-iiba ang SQ ng gears in a treated room. ;)
Wala naman ako iuupgrade, kasi wala ako system (unless CD-R King speakers count). Saka wala din ako dedicated room to treat.
OT ka na.
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 24, 2011 at 12:50 PM
Merry Christmas!!!
(http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9376/sexychristmasgirs149.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/sexychristmasgirs149.jpg/)
Post by: Cjtjader on Dec 24, 2011 at 09:51 PM
Merry Christmas ,Brader !!!! ;)
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 25, 2011 at 06:17 AM
* Merry Christmas!*PinoyDVD from toys4geeks!
Post by: nerveblocker on Dec 25, 2011 at 08:52 AM
Post by: praktikal on Dec 25, 2011 at 04:30 PM
Merry Christmas po Sir Mark pati na sa iyong Pamilya. ;)
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 25, 2011 at 04:35 PM
Post by: yygoob on Dec 25, 2011 at 06:11 PM
Post by: blackie on Dec 25, 2011 at 09:07 PM
Post by: vtec3 on Dec 26, 2011 at 07:38 AM
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Dec 27, 2011 at 07:51 AM
Belated Merry Xmas Po Sir Mark... :)
Cheers!... :)
Post by: iiinas on Dec 28, 2011 at 03:42 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 28, 2011 at 06:19 AM
happy new year!
Ang aga mo naman. Inisip ko tuloy baka Chinese New Year pero mas matagal pa naman yun. ;D ;D
Happy New Year na rin, neighbor! :)
Post by: nogie on Dec 31, 2011 at 06:25 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 31, 2011 at 07:18 PM
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_V09RaSn5H04/TR9hRGCsl7I/AAAAAAAABOQ/wtRBb8RQ93Y/s640/happy-new-year.jpg)
Wishing you po good health for the years to come... :)
Looking forward po for this in 2012 Christmas EB ;D
(http://www.focal-utopia.co.uk/GUEM.jpg)
Post by: Billabong on Dec 31, 2011 at 07:21 PM
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 31, 2011 at 08:36 PM
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/ram_on/other/2012-newyear.jpg)
Sir Mark...
" Wish You and Your Family Happiness & Good Health this Coming Year !!! "
PS...
...and More Focals to Come... ;D
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 31, 2011 at 08:38 PM
Happy New Gear!
Post by: praktikal on Dec 31, 2011 at 09:33 PM
Have a healthy and prosperous...
(http://i40.tinypic.com/r28fw1.jpg)
;)
Post by: wengkapre on Jan 02, 2012 at 09:31 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Aug 01, 2012 at 11:53 PM
Post by: Stagea on Aug 02, 2012 at 03:01 AM
Up. ;D
Uy mukhang may bagong hakot si Sir Mark! ;D
Mga ganyang ngiti kasi ni Don Nelson eh may ibig sabihin.
Post by: qguy on Aug 02, 2012 at 04:12 AM
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 02, 2012 at 02:26 PM
I wanna hear them sing (SHOUT, maybe?) :(
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 02, 2012 at 04:59 PM
Post by: Superman on Aug 03, 2012 at 05:29 AM
Wala bago except DVDo Duo video processor. Pero lapit na ang mga ilang bago stuff. Punta muna ako as HK Hifi Show next week. ;D
You'll also be there sir? Hope to see you!
Post by: TeeGoY on Aug 03, 2012 at 01:24 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 18, 2012 at 02:21 PM
Eto pangarap ko. MBL speakers. Sobra ganda ng tunog:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020170.jpg)
Wilson Alexandria. Ang laki:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020174.jpg)
Big horns. Ganda tingan pero ang sama ng tunog:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020179.jpg)
Another incredibly good speaker. Avalon:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020195.jpg)
A huge Sonus Faber speaker:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020203.jpg)
Eto ang maganda. Napakamurang patungan ng cable:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020209.jpg)
Isa pang maganda at murang mura. Patungan ng CD player:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020208.jpg)
Eto ang special edition ng Focal for China market. 24k gold:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020158.jpg)
Post by: praktikal on Aug 18, 2012 at 02:50 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 18, 2012 at 03:08 PM
:o
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020170.jpg)
Post by: streetsmart on Aug 18, 2012 at 06:08 PM
Eto na po ba makikita namin sa Xmas EB sir Mark? ;D
:o
Hehe. I wish. Maganda talaga tunog niya. Parang live.
The big advantage of the demo rooms, however, was that they were about 150 square meters. Ang ganda ng acoustics kaya medyo may daya. Malayo sya sa acoustics ng ordinary rooms.
Post by: wengkapre on Aug 18, 2012 at 08:18 PM
Ilan na naman po kayang tao ang mababali ang mga likod dito?
parang mas excited pa po kami Sir Mark sa bago mong laruan :D :D :D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 02, 2012 at 07:04 PM
Similar to my main speakers, they have the same W-cone technology for the woofer and mid-range. The tweeters are also beryllium, though the Utopias have a more advanced version. Nonetheless, the timbre match is very good because the Wide speakers "disappear".
It was quite impressive that in-wall speakers could perform as well as these but I'm aware of someone who has 5 of these in his home theater and they're supposed to perform excellently. I never thought I would ever use in-wall speakers but here they are and I love them.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0125.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0130.jpg)
Post by: jao143 on Sep 02, 2012 at 07:36 PM
:) :) :)
Post by: iiinas on Sep 02, 2012 at 08:42 PM
I recently got a pair of Focal Electra IW 1003 Be In-wall speakers to be my Wide speakers, replacing a pair of Focal Electra 1037 Be floorstanders. The 1037's were huge and they kept getting bumped. The in-wall speakers have freed up a lot of floor space and for their function as Wide speakers, they are doing their job very well. In a word, I would describe them as transparent. You don't notice them until you switch them off. They don't call attention to themselves, which is exactly what you want them to do.
Similar to my main speakers, they have the same W-cone technology for the woofer and mid-range. The tweeters are also beryllium, though the Utopias have a more advanced version. Nonetheless, the timbre match is very good because the Wide speakers "disappear".
It was quite impressive that in-wall speakers could perform as well as these but I'm aware of someone who has 5 of these in his home theater and they're supposed to perform excellently. I never thought I would ever use in-wall speakers but here they are and I love them.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0125.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0130.jpg)
Nice one there sir mark... How about the new pj... 8)
Post by: mike c on Sep 02, 2012 at 09:13 PM
Post by: Stagea on Sep 03, 2012 at 02:34 AM
I recently got a pair of Focal Electra IW 1003 Be In-wall speakers to be my Wide speakers, replacing a pair of Focal Electra 1037 Be floorstanders. The 1037's were huge and they kept getting bumped. The in-wall speakers have freed up a lot of floor space and for their function as Wide speakers, they are doing their job very well. In a word, I would describe them as transparent. You don't notice them until you switch them off. They don't call attention to themselves, which is exactly what you want them to do.
Similar to my main speakers, they have the same W-cone technology for the woofer and mid-range. The tweeters are also beryllium, though the Utopias have a more advanced version. Nonetheless, the timbre match is very good because the Wide speakers "disappear".
It was quite impressive that in-wall speakers could perform as well as these but I'm aware of someone who has 5 of these in his home theater and they're supposed to perform excellently. I never thought I would ever use in-wall speakers but here they are and I love them.
Congrats Sir Mark! Those are nice in-walls. :)
I still dream about a pair of SM9 studio monitors.
Post by: gaol on Sep 03, 2012 at 04:16 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 03, 2012 at 05:09 AM
nice. papalitan mo pa kulay sir ng grills ng wides?
Good question. Yun nga din comment ng iba pero gusto ko ang white kasi kitang-kita kaya kahit madilim, di siya mabubungo. Paranoid na ako kasi nabunggo ung dating floorstander, sumabit ang metallic cover ng beryllium tweeter and napunit ang tweeter. You don't want to know how much the tweeter assembly cost, toxic pa naman din.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 03, 2012 at 05:10 AM
Nice one there sir mark... How about the new pj... 8)
Malapit na. Gusto mo ikaw pa unang manood? :)
Post by: deo on Sep 03, 2012 at 08:11 AM
Malapit na. Gusto mo ikaw pa unang manood? :)
hehe nice! Congrats sir mark!
Post by: iiinas on Sep 03, 2012 at 08:53 AM
Malapit na. Gusto mo ikaw pa unang manood? :)
syempre! thats what neighbors are for diba sir mark. ;)
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 03, 2012 at 09:05 AM
Post by: Waxx on Sep 03, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 03, 2012 at 11:26 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 03, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Super ganda yan kung same color ng cloth sa walls ang grill cloth. Super invisible. That's what i did sa lahat ng HT speakers ko. I hid them sa cabinets, ceiling and wall with the speaker cloth matching the cabinets ceiling and walls. Panning is so great, feeling ko i would never go back to exposing the speakers again. Mas-immersive ang movie watching. I never experienced localization.
Kaya lang:
1. The grill is metal, not cloth. Mahirap din pinturahan.
2. Ayoko nga ng "invisible" speakers else baka mabunggo and ma-damage ang tweeter. Gusto ko nga Ang madaling makita.
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 03, 2012 at 01:46 PM
Itong kay sir Mark ang kaabang-abang . . . alin kaya dito? Sim2, JVC o Runco
Post by: blackie on Sep 03, 2012 at 01:51 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0125.jpg)
Kaboom!
Post by: odyopayl on Sep 03, 2012 at 02:03 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 03, 2012 at 02:13 PM
Congrats! :)
Post by: Billabong on Sep 03, 2012 at 02:43 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 03, 2012 at 02:53 PM
I still dream about a pair of SM9 studio monitors.
Kaya pala nagre-arrange ka na ng mga gamit to make room for your monitors. Peanuts lang sa iyo master ang $7,190. :D
Post by: Stagea on Sep 03, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Kaya pala nagre-arrange ka na ng mga gamit to make room for your monitors. Peanuts lang sa iyo master ang $7,190. :D
OT ka, master. 309k locally eh, unless magkaron ng discount from your fuffy. :P Medyo pricey for compact monitors.
Post by: Billabong on Sep 03, 2012 at 05:32 PM
OT ka, master. 309k locally eh, unless magkaron ng discount from your fuffy. :P Medyo pricey for compact monitors.
Patulong ka kay sir Mark para maka-discount ng malaki. :D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 03, 2012 at 06:00 PM
Patulong ka kay sir Mark para maka-discount ng malaki. :D
Oo nga. Daku naman si master Ivan.
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 04, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 04, 2012 at 11:44 PM
Post by: CMac on Sep 05, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Eto pangarap ko. MBL speakers. Sobra ganda ng tunog:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/P1020170.jpg)
approx 9 million pesos? pwede. parang going rate lang ng isang bahay na di tinablan nila ondoy at habagat.
here's an interesting post by a proud owner of these behemoths.
http://www.avguide.com/forums/mbl-101-x-treme-radialstrahler-loudspeaker (http://www.avguide.com/forums/mbl-101-x-treme-radialstrahler-loudspeaker)
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 05, 2012 at 09:30 AM
i think this is part of sound system of HG Wells Time Machine :D
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2556004895_ec9348ea02_o.png)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 05, 2012 at 10:30 AM
wow 9M
i think this is part of sound system of HG Wells Time Machine :D
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3194/2556004895_ec9348ea02_o.png)
Ang laki ng coffee maker!
Post by: qguy on Sep 05, 2012 at 10:39 AM
Post by: iiinas on Sep 11, 2012 at 09:54 AM
here are some pictures, sorry about the quality, its from a cellphone.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8181/7971135018_f3fa691dcf.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971135018/)
sim2 mico pj (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971135018/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8444/7971139590_e47a601a9a.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971139590/)
sim2 mico pj (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971139590/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8301/7971129648_f9ff508dd8.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971129648/)
sim2 mico pj (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971129648/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
the pj is humongous! its bigger than the old sony, its instant on and off (parang tv!), very quiet too.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8455/7971126588_b924d3f4ba.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971126588/)
sim2 mico pj (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971126588/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8309/7971124886_deda60cc27.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971124886/)
sim2 mico pj (http://www.flickr.com/photos/iiinasky/7971124886/) by iiinasky (http://www.flickr.com/people/iiinasky/), on Flickr
well, i am not here to review the pj, i am not qualified for that, i think sir mark can do that for us, i just want to give some observation on how i saw this beast in reference to the old sony lcos pj.
1. its not night and day from the sony, but the colors on this sim2 seems to be more balanced, skin tone is spot on and white is really white (parang ginamitan ng tide)!
2. its very bright, but this may be due to the fact that the last time i saw the sony, the bulb is an old one already so it may have loss some of its output already.
i think the main advantage of this pj as sir mark told me is since its a led pj, the light source is rated at 30,000 hours, and what is surprising about the 30,000 hours, during the course of the pj's life it is said that the light output will only degrade very very very slowly. so for that alone, sir mark does not have to recalibrate once every so often once a bulb degrades or once he changes a bulb.
but to be honest, i would be very surprise if this pj even last 15,000 hours with its current owner... hehehe, i am sure before that day comes this pj might already have a new home... ;D ;D ;D
again, sir mark, thanks for having me, great conversation, wine and food, and i might say, for the longest time i have been visiting your ht, this is the first time i was able to view a "whole" film feature. ganda ng immortals! sound and vision!
Sim2 Very Special... on to the next project... ano kaya yon.... ::) ::) ::)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 11, 2012 at 09:57 AM
Post by: ricky on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Post by: iiinas on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Wow! Congrats sir mark! Calibrated na ba when the pictures were taken?
calibrated na sir nelson, pangit lang cellphone camera ko. the pictures dont do justice so to speak.
Post by: Stagea on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:13 AM
Congrats sir Mark!
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:14 AM
How are the black levels?
Post by: jao143 on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Post by: iiinas on Sep 11, 2012 at 10:51 AM
Congrats sir Mark, tamang tama yan for the Christmas EB. Sir Ayns, yung S...V...S ba eh, quad ultra ::) ::) ::)
pede! ;D
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 11, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 11, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 11, 2012 at 12:04 PM
(http://4photos.net/photosv5/smiley_with_wow_sign_1342785268.jpg)
(http://smileys.emoticonsonly.com/emoticons/w/we_are_not_worthy-962.gif)
Congrats sir Mark...
The best of the best!!! :)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 11, 2012 at 12:07 PM
Wow! Nag-post na pala si kagawad. Salamat! Mamaya na ako mag-post ng review.
Congrats sir mark! One of the best yan. Looks like magtatagal na ito. Hope to see it in action someday. :D
Post by: praktikal on Sep 11, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Post by: Waxx on Sep 11, 2012 at 01:06 PM
denon 4520... ;D
Post by: Courage on Sep 11, 2012 at 03:02 PM
Sana pwede makinood.... Sa pangarap lang ako nakakapanood sa ganyan eh...
CONGRATS SIR MARK..
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 11, 2012 at 06:35 PM
congrats bro mark ganda nyan
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 11, 2012 at 07:17 PM
Itong kay sir Mark ang kaabang-abang . . . alin kaya dito? Sim2, JVC o Runco
Tama unang kutob ko Sim2 nga. Only the best pag si sir Mark ang babanat.
Sorry didn't make it last Sunday, was out w/ the family already when you texted.
Really lives up with the title . . . dream theater.
Post by: JoeyGS on Sep 11, 2012 at 08:48 PM
Great upgrade and something to look forward to..
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 12, 2012 at 05:33 AM
One of the main selling points of the Mico 50 has been that it does not have a lamp. For those who are familiar with projectors, that is quite a big convenience (as well as savings). As lamps are used, their quality deteriorates. Not only do they become more dim, their overall image quality gets worse. In the first 500 hours of use, projector lamps usually lose about 50% of their brightness level. Picture quality deteriorates and even if you had a perfect video calibration at the start, you will need a new one. Some videophiles redo their calibration after every 100 hours of lamp usage. This is one of the features that attracted me most to the Mico -- a stable image which does not need constant re-calibration over time.
The projector is huge, similar in size to the older and huge CRT projectors. It weighs 55 pounds and you need a very strong mount. Fortunately, my main mount used to carry a CRT projector so it is quite capable. AV Driver, the supplier of the projector, provided a custom-made bracket that they bolted to the main mount. Installation literally took 15 minutes.
Similar to other SIM2 products (and a lot of Italian products), the projector is aesthetically beautiful, with a gun-metal finish. If you look at it, it looks like it is equal to its price. It's like looking at a Ferrari.
One of the things which will stun you is the time it takes to switch on and off. Switching on takes about 10 seconds while switching off takes around 3 seconds. Normal projectors may take a few minutes. Also, since there is no lamp, you don't need to worry about reducing lamp life through frequent switching on and off. You can switch it off and in a few seconds, switch it on again without worry. That's not true for other projectors. It takes time for them to cool down when you switch them off and lamp life is reduced as you frequently switch them off.
The projector has a built-in 2-point RGB adjustment for white balance, similar to other projectors. It was at first disappointing that the projector did not have a 10-point RGB adjustment, though I have a DVDO Duo Video Processor connected to the projector and this does have the 10-point adjustment. John, the AVDI tech, and I adjusted the white balance at the projector and to our surprise, all we needed was to adjust one point, not even 2, and both white balance and gamma were so good that we didn't need to do any further adjustment with the DVDO video processor. I have calibrated a lot of projectors and sometimes, it is easy to calibrate the white balance (which is the balanced mix of red, green and blue) but then it will be a torture to adjust gamma (which is the proper shading of the image from darkest to lightest, so that shadows are properly captured and have a smooth gradation, thus providing the illusion of a 3-dimensional image). Some of the most notorious for gamma calibration are the Panasonic projectors, which have a 10-point adjustment but they are so difficult to calibrate that it takes me 2 hours or more. With the Mico, when the white balance was done, the gamma was perfect.
Color calibration (Hue, Saturation and Luminance) was a little more involved and it took us maybe 1.5 hours, but that was mainly because we were not familiar with the projector calibration features. At the end, we did get the color calibration perfect and it is, in fact, the most perfect color calibration I have seen. Most projectors will have a problem with a few colors and you will be unable to calibrate them properly. That's just the limitation of most projectors. The Mico was perfect.
Picture quality is quite stunning. Many modern projectors have deep blacks and high contrast ratio and the Mico has these qualities as well but what it beats others is in color accuracy and sharpness. In most well-calibrated projectors, you sometimes get stunned by the realism of an image and this invariably is a facial close-up where you can see the pores, hair strands, skin blemishes, etc. With the Mico, this is the first time I see this stunning realism in half-body and even full-body images. People come alive.
The Celine Dion show in Las Vegas is among the best tests for projectors and the Mico produced an image which was incredibly beautiful. Skin tones are so realistic and the many colorful costumes and sets somehow come alive too. Motion flow was no problem, it was very smooth too.
In short, the Mico produces a picture quality which is among the best I have ever seen. Probably the only one that is better was the Sim2 Lumis that I saw in HK, projecting to a huge screen which may have been 14 to 15 feet wide.
Originally, I had been thinking of getting the new Sony VPL-VW 1000 projector, which has 4k. After reading a lot of reviews and following the threads at AVS Forum, I decided not to buy it, mainly because of the view that you can only appreciate 4k if you sit really close to the screen. Mahihilo ako.
Thus, my attention went to the Mico which was set up at the AV Driver showroom and was the best pq I had seen locally. I think it was a good decision. One of my overriding philosophies in this Audio-Video hobby is that whatever upgrade I have must be so good that you have to be blind not to see the improved picture or deaf to not hear the better audio. The Mico certainly meets this requirement. The picture quality improvement is pretty stunning.
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 12, 2012 at 05:45 AM
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Sep 12, 2012 at 05:49 AM
Congratz Sir Mark....
Your HT Setup is Still The Best... The Very Best.... :)
Cheers!
Post by: ricky on Sep 12, 2012 at 05:58 AM
Thus, my attention went to the Mico which was set up at the AV Driver showroom and was the best pq I had seen locally. I think it was a good decision. One of my overriding philosophies in this Audio-Video hobby is that whatever upgrade I have must be so good that you have to be blind not to see the improved picture or deaf to not hear the better audio. The Mico certainly meets this requirement. The picture quality improvement is pretty stunning.
Clap clap clap very nice projector sir mark. When I was invited to audition a speaker before sa av driver showroom, hindi yung speakers ang napansin ko but the picture quality of the projector. Hindi na ako nahiya at napalakas yata yung WOW ko :-[ ;D para akong bata noon. Up to now Hindi malimutan pq nya, they were playing David foster concert and kahit anong frame napakaganda. It's like watching a plasma panel that is perfectly calibrated ;) we even had ambient lighting at that time. Now before i forget they mentioned it's 2M daw kaya ayun kaput agad sa dreams ko ;D Sir yung Adam tensor speakers ang naka pair dyan ah :D pogi din. Congratulations again.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 12, 2012 at 06:18 AM
In short, the Mico produces a picture quality which is among the best I have ever seen.
Thus, my attention went to the Mico which was set up at the AV Driver showroom and was the best pq I had seen locally. I think it was a good decision. One of my overriding philosophies in this Audio-Video hobby is that whatever upgrade I have must be so good that you have to be blind not to see the improved picture or deaf to not hear the better audio. The Mico certainly meets this requirement. The picture quality improvement is pretty stunning.
Clap clap clap very nice projector sir mark. When I was invited to audition a speaker before sa av driver showroom, hindi yung speakers ang napansin ko but the picture quality of the projector. Hindi na ako nahiya at napalakas yata yung WOW ko :-[ ;D para akong bata noon. Up to now Hindi malimutan pq nya, they were playing David foster concert and kahit anong frame napakaganda. It's like watching a plasma panel that is perfectly calibrated ;) we even had ambient lighting at that time. Now before i forget they mentioned it's 2M daw kaya ayun kaput agad sa dreams ko ;D Sir yung Adam tensor speakers ang naka pair dyan ah :D pogi din. Congratulations again.
I had a similar experience. Matagal na kinekwento sa akin ni John (of AVDI) ang plano nila for their new room at Shang mall. When it was finally done, pumunta ako to listen to a Focal Scala Utopia. Ang ganda nga ng tunog - incredibly good. However, what literally caught my eye was the pq of the SIM2 projector! Wow nga ang reaction. Di ko nakalimutan yun.
Post by: gaol on Sep 12, 2012 at 06:24 AM
I had a similar experience. Matagal na kinekwento sa akin ni John (of AVDI) ang plano nila for their new room at Shang mall. When it was finally done, pumunta ako to listen to a Focal Scala Utopia. Ang ganda nga ng tunog - incredibly good. However, what literally caught my eye was the pq of the SIM2 projector! Wow nga ang reaction. Di ko nakalimutan yun.
... Kaya ako natatakot pumasok ng AVDI, hehehe
Congratulations again, Mark! This is definitely a must-see upgrade. ;) ;) :D :D :D
Post by: ricky on Sep 12, 2012 at 06:27 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 12, 2012 at 06:52 AM
Napansin mo ba yung treatments nila, sayang maganda materials but poorly constructed :D sana ako ang kinuha ;D
Kilala yata natin Ang supplier ng acoustics. ;D
Maganda nga but it took Hansen a very long time to fine-tune kaya kailangan mo pa rin ng marunong sa acoustics.
Post by: ciotime on Sep 12, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 13, 2012 at 12:04 PM
Post by: qguy on Sep 13, 2012 at 12:30 PM
One of my overriding philosophies in this Audio-Video hobby is that whatever upgrade I have must be so good that you have to be blind not to see the improved picture or deaf to not hear the better audio.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 13, 2012 at 07:09 PM
Congrats on the new toy....yep Sim2 might not be a mainstream brand name but among Home Theater enthusiasts its one of the best named PJs around. Wasn't expecting you'd be getting this PJ coz if Im not mistaken its not new in the market right? I think its been available since early 2010? I thought it'd be a new model PJ but still a great pickup nonetheless.
If I believed the VPL-VW 1000 (which came out this year) was better for me, I would have bought it. For my needs, this SIM2 model is better.
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:32 AM
congrats
Post by: sientobente on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:58 AM
Post by: qwerty_88 on Sep 14, 2012 at 05:07 PM
Post by: den1224 on Sep 14, 2012 at 05:37 PM
Post by: blackie on Sep 14, 2012 at 06:07 PM
What an early Christmas present. I wonder what will top this ;D
Great, great review too.
Cheers!!!!!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:51 PM
Hindi pa ba 4K yang pj mo? Considering the size of your screen, parang upscaled na 4K na yung napanood namin.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 16, 2012 at 04:38 PM
Super linaw pala talaga ng SIM2 sir Mark. Aside dun sa picture-perfect na colors, blackness & brightness, I compared it last night when I watched the Celine Dion concert yung mga audience sa malayo hindi na ganun ka-sharp sa AE7000 tho' expected ko na din naman yan. Sabi nga ni Nelson para kaming nakakita ng 130" na plasma panel.
Hindi pa ba 4K yang pj mo? Considering the size of your screen, parang upscaled na 4K na yung napanood namin.
Hi Luther! Thanks for dropping by kahapon with Nelson and Paul. You know that I always value your objective observations.
Nearly all projectors can produce a very good image of a close-up. It's much more difficult to have the same sharpness for a picture with a lot of people. That's one of the strengths of the SIM2 Mico. I think it's hard to pinpoint exactly how the pq is attained but I think it's a combination of the many good qualities of the pj, including its optics. Maganda ang lens niya.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 16, 2012 at 04:43 PM
Super linaw pala talaga ng SIM2 sir Mark. Aside dun sa picture-perfect na colors, blackness & brightness, I compared it last night when I watched the Celine Dion concert yung mga audience sa malayo hindi na ganun ka-sharp sa AE7000 tho' expected ko na din naman yan. Sabi nga ni Nelson para kaming nakakita ng 130" na plasma panel.
Hindi pa ba 4K yang pj mo? Considering the size of your screen, parang upscaled na 4K na yung napanood namin.
Yeah.
Thanks sir Mark for letting us view your PJ. Your previous PJ was really a magandang PJ. I was expecting a better PJ but this new one is like a new 130" LCD flat panel wall mounted sa front wall mo. Parang hindi PJ. Malaking upgrade sa PJ technology using the LED light and congrats on being the first one to own here at PDvd. A notch higher na naman ang reference PJ ko. Next viewing, dapat may flat 16 hz na very audible. ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 16, 2012 at 06:03 PM
Next viewing, dapat may flat 16 hz na very audible. ;D
Hehe. Nice project. Tingnan natin kung magaya ko ang kwarto ni Jake. Yun ang tunay na reference sa massage effect. ;D
Post by: Billabong on Sep 16, 2012 at 11:07 PM
As always, very immersive manood sa HT mo. Ibang level yung detail, brightness and refinement ng new projector mo. We just watched a movie sa digital cinema ng Eastwood. Napansin namin ni Lian na malayong malayo yung PQ compared dun sayo. Di hamak na mas maganda yung picture ng Sim2 by a mile.
Quad 18" subs ang bagay sa HT mo IMO. Pag hindi pa mag-massage effect yan ewan ko na. Pero sana okay na din ang sextuple subs! ;D
Although nung ginawa mong +3db hot yung subs mas ramdam na. Nakaka tense manuod nung War of the Worlds and Super 8.
Post by: vtec3 on Sep 20, 2012 at 01:35 PM
Post by: qguy on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:48 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:05 AM
wala pang pic yung 4 x 4 ?ako na-iimagine ko na eh ;D
bro streetsmart, still using 15hz cutoff on all 4 subs? di ba newer PB13 ultras have higher than 10hz config, di ka ba nahirapan integrate yung 2 bagong subs?
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:25 AM
ako na-iimagine ko na eh ;D
bro streetsmart, still using 15hz cutoff on all 4 subs? di ba newer PB13 ultras have higher than 10hz config, di ka ba nahirapan integrate yung 2 bagong subs?
Dumating na...?!!!
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:32 AM
Dumating na...?!!!ay di ko alam bro DMF. ang alam ko lang may nabasa ako sa SVS thread na 4x PB13ultra na sya :D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:15 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0148_zpsb5b1f3fc.jpg)
I've been experimenting a lot with the projector and the pq has improved even more.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:33 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0152_zps7a6a3146.jpg)
These SVS Ultras are pretty huge but when they are placed behind the Focal Utopias, they look quite small.
I moved the 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 subs to the back of the room while the 4 SVS subs were in the front. I have long wanted to do this but it's a pretty back-breaking effort so it's been delayed up to now. Placing the 2 subs at the back helps to flatten the frequency response of all the subs combined. This is based on theory, on the readings I took with the Audyssey Pro equipment and by ear as well.
The integration and calibration of the 6 subs together was not that difficult. The 2 subs in the rear act as one and the 4 subs in front act as one. All the individual subs were set at around 66 to 67 db at the main listening position, which provided a summed total of around 75 db. This meant that volume levels were balanced.
The distances of the front and the rear subs are not exactly the same to the main listening position but I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter that much. Given the long wavelengths of the bass frequencies, it seems that slight differences don't matter. This is also the view of many well-respected audio professionals.
My main objective in getting 2 more Ultras was to experience a similar "massage" effect as in the HT of Jazzy Jake. My initial report is that my HT still pales in comparison to Jake's, at least in the massage effect. ;D
Nonetheless, there's been a massive improvement so maybe, I'm a bit closer now to the "massage" of Gaol and Pchin. ;D
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:50 PM
ang ganda po sir streetsmart.....
congrats on the quad sub
Post by: mike c on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:52 PM
(may space pa sa likod ng utopias) ;D
sir jazzy jake's subs, i believe, are calibrated hot. aside from the difference in room sizes, perhaps this is the main difference.
puwedeng pa-share/repost ng pic above sir mark?
Post by: Courage on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Here are the 4 SVS PB-13 Ultras, behind the Focal Utopias:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0152_zps7a6a3146.jpg)
These SVS Ultras are pretty huge but when they are placed behind the Focal Utopias, they look quite small.
I moved the 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 subs to the back of the room while the 4 SVS subs were in the front. I have long wanted to do this but it's a pretty back-breaking effort so it's been delayed up to now. Placing the 2 subs at the back helps to flatten the frequency response of all the subs combined. This is based on theory, on the readings I took with the Audyssey Pro equipment and by ear as well.
The integration and calibration of the 6 subs together was not that difficult. The 2 subs in the rear act as one and the 4 subs in front act as one. All the individual subs were set at around 66 to 67 db at the main listening position, which provided a summed total of around 75 db. This meant that volume levels were balanced.
The distances of the front and the rear subs are not exactly the same to the main listening position but I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter that much. Given the long wavelengths of the bass frequencies, it seems that slight differences don't matter. This is also the view of many well-respected audio professionals.
My main objective in getting 2 more Ultras was to experience a similar "massage" effect as in the HT of Jazzy Jake. My initial report is that my HT still pales in comparison to Jake's, at least in the massage effect. ;D
Nonetheless, there's been a massive improvement so maybe, I'm a bit closer now to the "massage" of Gaol and Pchin. ;D
WOW!!!!!!! THATS A HOME THEATER.......
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:56 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 23, 2012 at 06:58 PM
ganda gloss lahat.
(may space pa sa likod ng utopias) ;D
sir jazzy jake's subs, i believe, are calibrated hot. aside from the difference in room sizes, perhaps this is the main difference.
puwedeng pa-share/repost ng pic above sir mark?
I don't think Jake's subs are hot. Maliit lang talaga room kaya in theory, for a bigger room, you can get the same effect if you add more subs. E mukhang kulang pa rin. ;D
No problem to share or repost.
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:00 PM
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:33 PM
I don't think Jake's subs are hot. Maliit lang talaga room kaya in theory, for a bigger room, you can get the same effect if you add more subs. E mukhang kulang pa rin. ;D
No problem to share or repost.
Possible maging OCTO-Sub setup?
Congrats! Indeed a one of a kind HT setup ! O0
Post by: XXXyzledge on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:42 PM
Here's a better shot of the Sim2 Mico 50 projector:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0148_zpsb5b1f3fc.jpg)
I've been experimenting a lot with the projector and the pq has improved even more.
Wow!
The best just got betterer !!!! O0
Looks more like the Bugatti of PJ's !!!
Post by: stan1196 on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:15 PM
Simply WOW and AMAZING!!! :o
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0152_zps7a6a3146.jpg)
Post by: docelmo on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:26 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:58 PM
Post by: carlo.A on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:00 PM
Post by: iiinas on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:21 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:34 PM
Nice. Dumating na pala. So how's the Flight of the Phoenix? :D Na-achieve din ba yun low end extension?
I'm thinking that mas malalim sya cuz at the same trims as before, mas malakas ang massage effect. That can only come from a deeper frequency response.
It's going to be a challenge to improve the audio even more but I'm sure I will find something. Maybe an overhaul of the acoustic treatment? That could be pretty major so I'm not sure if I'll experiment with that. ;D
Post by: cyber19 on Sep 23, 2012 at 10:33 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 24, 2012 at 01:12 AM
I'm thinking that mas malalim sya cuz at the same trims as before, mas malakas ang massage effect. That can only come from a deeper frequency response.
It's going to be a challenge to improve the audio even more but I'm sure I will find something. Maybe an overhaul of the acoustic treatment? That could be pretty major so I'm not sure if I'll experiment with that. ;D
Massage effect could also come from higher SPLs din. :D
Post by: meat_eater on Sep 24, 2012 at 04:51 AM
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:21 AM
It's going to be a challenge to improve the audio even more but I'm sure I will find something. Maybe an overhaul of the acoustic treatment? That could be pretty major so I'm not sure if I'll experiment with that. ;D
anak ng... >:D
meron pa din?!!? mid bass perhaps?!!? >:D
parinig naman sir mark! ;)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:26 AM
Massage effect could also come from higher SPLs din. :D
Not if you start out with the same trim levels and master volume. The subs are calibrated to the same levels as before and so if you set the master volume to the same point as well, a greater massage effect will only be caused by a deeper frequency response.
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:32 AM
6 HUGE subs all in all!
Paano po ba i-connect yan sa receiver lahat sir? Hehehe
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:50 AM
anak ng... >:D
meron pa din?!!? mid bass perhaps?!!? >:D
parinig naman sir mark! ;)
Hi Jake! Alam mo naman na ang room mo ay ang aking inspirasyon. Lakas ng massage. ;D
The mid-bass of my room is very good, primarily because of the Focal Utopias, as well as the numerous bass traps.
My concern with my room treatment is that I sometimes think that it sounds a bit "dead" or over-damped and this causes a narrowing of the soundstage (although this characteristic is reversed by the Audyssey DSX Wide and Height speakers, which widen and deepen the soundstage respectively). When a room is over-treated with absorbers, there are very few reflections. While some people may say that one should always kill reflections, reflections are actually beneficial in expanding the soundstage and reinforcing certain audio frequencies so that the sound appears clearer. Try to sing in open air, where there are no reflections, and your natural ugly voice will be heard. Compare this to singing in the shower where the size of the bathroom is just right to reinforce your squeaky voice and make it sound like Pavarotti. Reflections are also the secret behind the Greek and Roman theaters which allowed the actors to be heard, even without amplification.
Room acoustics often require a lot of experimentation. Given the same treatments, one room may sound much better than another. This is why I'd like to experiment with the acoustics in my room. The trouble is that it's so hard to implement.
All the theater pros that I have talked to agree that the CCP main theater has one of the best acoustics in the Philippines and even in Asia. It's also acknowledged by the architect of CCP that he was "lucky" with the acoustics. It's always a treat to watch a performance at the CCP main theater and I always go away, endeavoring to reproduce that huge sound in my room. Of course, this is a hopeless task but it's a nice aspiration. :)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:52 AM
Hala. Sobrang ganda. :'(
6 HUGE subs all in all!
Paano po ba i-connect yan sa receiver lahat sir? Hehehe
I used 5 y-connectors and 3 male-to-female adapters. Di naman mahirap. Very simple.
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:15 AM
bro streetsmart, still using 15hz cutoff on all 4 subs? di ba newer PB13 ultras have higher than 10hz config, di ka ba nahirapan integrate yung 2 bagong subs?
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:36 AM
Sir Mark, have to tried watching Underworld Awakening on your new set-up? Advance to the 60th minute of the film and watch it from there til the end. Rest assured, you will feel the "massage effect" you're looking for. ;)
Post by: gaol on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:55 AM
Wow! Two more Ultras!!! :o Conrats sir Mark! :)
Sir Mark, have to tried watching Underworld Awakening on your new set-up? Advance to the 60th minute of the film and watch it from there til the end. Rest assured, you will feel the "massage effect" you're looking for. ;)
I agree Mark. But in my case, it seems like the whole movie is one long massage session!
Congrats! Masayang masaya ang Xmas EB nito! ;D ;D ;D
Post by: wengkapre on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:16 AM
Nagkasabay po pala kayo ni turbokiller humakot sa Graceland last saturday :)
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:17 AM
ako na-iimagine ko na eh ;D
bro streetsmart, still using 15hz cutoff on all 4 subs? di ba newer PB13 ultras have higher than 10hz config, di ka ba nahirapan integrate yung 2 bagong subs?
D ko maintindihan Ito. AFAIK, the old and new subs have the same tuning options - 10, 16, 20 and sealed. I use 16 Hz.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:20 AM
Wow! Two more Ultras!!! :o Conrats sir Mark! :)
Sir Mark, have to tried watching Underworld Awakening on your new set-up? Advance to the 60th minute of the film and watch it from there til the end. Rest assured, you will feel the "massage effect" you're looking for. ;)
Salamat sa tip. Hanapin ko Ito.
Post by: mike c on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:43 AM
D ko maintindihan Ito. AFAIK, the old and new subs have the same tuning options - 10, 16, 20 and sealed. I use 16 Hz.
the bash has 10, 15, 20 and sealed
the sledge has 16, 20 and sealed
the 15 and 16 has minimal difference in the low end output. (the sledge has a bit more output at certain frequencies)
the 10 was removed because unless one was using each of the subs at low volumes, the port would chuff.
Post by: smt on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Here are the 4 SVS PB-13 Ultras, behind the Focal Utopias:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0152_zps7a6a3146.jpg)
These SVS Ultras are pretty huge but when they are placed behind the Focal Utopias, they look quite small.
I moved the 2 x Paradigm Servo-15 subs to the back of the room while the 4 SVS subs were in the front. I have long wanted to do this but it's a pretty back-breaking effort so it's been delayed up to now. Placing the 2 subs at the back helps to flatten the frequency response of all the subs combined. This is based on theory, on the readings I took with the Audyssey Pro equipment and by ear as well.
The integration and calibration of the 6 subs together was not that difficult. The 2 subs in the rear act as one and the 4 subs in front act as one. All the individual subs were set at around 66 to 67 db at the main listening position, which provided a summed total of around 75 db. This meant that volume levels were balanced.
The distances of the front and the rear subs are not exactly the same to the main listening position but I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't matter that much. Given the long wavelengths of the bass frequencies, it seems that slight differences don't matter. This is also the view of many well-respected audio professionals.
My main objective in getting 2 more Ultras was to experience a similar "massage" effect as in the HT of Jazzy Jake. My initial report is that my HT still pales in comparison to Jake's, at least in the massage effect. ;D
Nonetheless, there's been a massive improvement so maybe, I'm a bit closer now to the "massage" of Gaol and Pchin. ;D
Sir mark, just curious....is 85db your reference level? Kboom!
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM
the bash has 10, 15, 20 and sealed
the sledge has 16, 20 and sealed
the 15 and 16 has minimal difference in the low end output. (the sledge has a bit more output at certain frequencies)
the 10 was removed because unless one was using each of the subs at low volumes, the port would chuff.
Thanks for the clarification. I recall that I once tried the 10 Hz tuning and the result wasn't very good so I never used it henceforth. I've always used the 15/16 Hz tuning.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 11:56 AM
Sir mark, just curious....is 85db your reference level? Kboom!
The LFE channel is supposed to have a maximum output of 115 db. All other channels have a max of 105 db. Furthermore, the speakers are supposed to be equally calibrated to a level of 85 db, at -20 dbfs, iirc. However, 85 db is too loud for most people so that AVR manufacturers instead use 75 db and then add 10 db afterwards. Thus, the subs are calibrated to 75 db to match them with the other speakers but their max volume is 115 db at reference level, which is really loud. It's very scary to listen at reference level. You might break your speakers or amps or, even worse, your ears.
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 24, 2012 at 12:41 PM
The LFE channel is supposed to have a maximum output of 115 db. All other channels have a max of 105 db. Furthermore, the speakers are supposed to be equally calibrated to a level of 85 db, at -20 dbfs, iirc. However, 85 db is too loud for most people so that AVR manufacturers instead use 75 db and then add 10 db afterwards. Thus, the subs are calibrated to 75 db to match them with the other speakers but their max volume is 115 db at reference level, which is really loud. It's very scary to listen at reference level. You might break your speakers or amps or, even worse, your ears.
I totally agree. Hope to listen to your gears soon. Congrats again for the nice additions.
Post by: stickfighter on Sep 24, 2012 at 01:01 PM
Salamat sa tip. Hanapin ko Ito.
Yes sir Mark, highly recommended. For sure, this will be your new demo scene to showcase the sound of your HT system. ;)
Let me know... 8)
Post by: Onkyo606 on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:00 PM
It's very scary to listen at reference level. You might break your speakers or amps or, even worse, your ears.
sir mark for a few times i tried listening to reference level ang ganda pakinggan pero without me knowing it, nasunog ko pala yung tweeter nung isang front speaker buti na lang may stock si Audioworld ng tweeter for RS6 kaya napalitan din ng same type and specs
since then di ko na inulit mag reference level, yung Blueman group na concert ang ginamit kung material yung dinemo mo nung Xmas EB last year
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 06:45 PM
sir mark for a few times i tried listening to reference level ang ganda pakinggan pero without me knowing it, nasunog ko pala yung tweeter nung isang front speaker buti na lang may stock si Audioworld ng tweeter for RS6 kaya napalitan din ng same type and specs
since then di ko na inulit mag reference level, yung Blueman group na concert ang ginamit kung material yung dinemo mo nung Xmas EB last year
Don't worry. Makikinig tayo ng reference level sa Xmas EB. ;D
Post by: ryn0128 on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:48 PM
Two, three or even four properly positioned subwoofers can effectively cancel some room resonances and distribute bass more uniformly in the room, improving bass in multiple listening positions.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:52 PM
sir mark for a few times i tried listening to reference level ang ganda pakinggan pero without me knowing it, nasunog ko pala yung tweeter nung isang front speaker buti na lang may stock si Audioworld ng tweeter for RS6 kaya napalitan din ng same type and specs
since then di ko na inulit mag reference level, yung Blueman group na concert ang ginamit kung material yung dinemo mo nung Xmas EB last year
Don't worry. Makikinig tayo ng reference level sa Xmas EB. ;D
Ayun oh! @ 85 db kailangan sir habang umaawit kami ni Tirso. :D
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 24, 2012 at 08:57 PM
Hi Jake! Alam mo naman na ang room mo ay ang aking inspirasyon. Lakas ng massage. ;D
The mid-bass of my room is very good, primarily because of the Focal Utopias, as well as the numerous bass traps.
ahem... i can not fathom how that could be... i am certain though that my room is not over 1/4 your room size. in that case i'd like to think that the acoustics (and maybe placement) maybe things you'd need to revisit.
pero 4 ultra's and 2 digms? man o man!
this would be a good thing to fix with mike c.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 24, 2012 at 09:22 PM
ahem... i can not fathom how that could be... i am certain though that my room is not over 1/4 your room size. in that case i'd like to think that the acoustics (and maybe placement) maybe things you'd need to revisit.
pero 4 ultra's and 2 digms? man o man!
this would be a good thing to fix with mike c.
I think your room is around 1000 cu ft while mine is 6000 cu ft. That's the main difference. You need a lot more subs in the bigger room in order to have the same massage effect.
I've carefully observed this in the rooms of Pchin, gaol and billabong, all of whom have the same subs as you - 2 x SVS PB12. The bigger the room, the weaker the massage effect (although malakas daw ngayon massage ni billabong so I have to check out what he did).
Nice kulam try, btw. ;D
Post by: frootloops on Sep 24, 2012 at 09:45 PM
(http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/thx_simpson_3.jpg)
Chalap panoorin ni Debbie dyan senor! (http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h134/donnel111/snack.gif)
Post by: mike c on Sep 24, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I think your room is around 1000 cu ft while mine is 6000 cu ft. That's the main difference. You need a lot more subs in the bigger room in order to have the same massage effect.
I've carefully observed this in the rooms of Pchin, gaol and billabong, all of whom have the same subs as you - 2 x SVS PB12. The bigger the room, the weaker the massage effect (although malakas daw ngayon massage ni billabong so I have to check out what he did).
Nice kulam try, btw. ;D
IF 2 PB12NSD = 1 PB13Ultra
1000 cubic foot room = 2 PB12NSD
therefore
6000 cubic foot room = 6 PB13Ultra
8)
sa harap pa lang yun ha.
may stock pa ako sir mark.
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 25, 2012 at 06:34 AM
IF 2 PB12NSD = 1 PB13Ultra
1000 cubic foot room = 2 PB12NSD
therefore
6000 cubic foot room = 6 PB13Ultra
8)
sa harap pa lang yun ha.
may stock pa ako sir mark.
Hehe. Yes, I've done that math too but the Paradigm subs are just as powerful as the Ultras, except that they go down to only 20 Hz while the Ultras go down to 15/16 Hz. I think the subs are fine for now. :)
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Sep 25, 2012 at 07:00 AM
Hehe. Yes, I've done that math too but the Paradigm subs are just as powerful as the Ultras, except that they go down to only 20 Hz while the Ultras go down to 15/16 Hz. I think the subs are fine for now. :)
eto yun eh... hmmm... so siguro in another 3 months... malamang may upgrade ulit... >:D
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 25, 2012 at 07:07 AM
eto yun eh... hmmm... so siguro in another 3 months... malamang may upgrade ulit... >:D
Sinabi ko na nga ba na kakagat ang mangkukulam sa pain. ;D
Kapag naglabas ang SVS ng sub na umaabot sa 10 Hz, baka pwedeng pag-isipan ng upgrade.
Post by: dobler on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:28 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:32 PM
Just curious, how did you hook up all six subs to your pre-amp/processor? 2 sub outputs and multiple Y connectors, tama ba?
One sub out and 5 Y connectors. There are several technical reasons why Ayoko gumamit ng 2 sub outs.
Post by: tein on Sep 25, 2012 at 07:12 PM
Post by: shuttertrigger on Sep 25, 2012 at 07:44 PM
Don't worry. Makikinig tayo ng reference level sa Xmas EB. ;D
::) ::) ::)
Merry Christmas sir Mark! And congrats again sa addition ng gears! ;D
Post by: markcrenz on Sep 25, 2012 at 07:56 PM
Post by: Narayan on Sep 25, 2012 at 09:20 PM
Post by: pchin on Sep 27, 2012 at 07:01 PM
2 huge upgrades in a year! major-major!!! :o
Wow that's a very major-major upgrade....congrat Mark! ;)
This year Xmas EB will be a BLAST!! 8)
Post by: qguy on Sep 29, 2012 at 07:26 AM
2 huge upgrades in a year! major-major!!! :o
Post by: R on Oct 18, 2012 at 08:15 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Oct 29, 2012 at 11:46 PM
I admire your passion Mark. Congratulations.
Post by: Huddaf on Oct 30, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Post by: ultimatedls on Nov 06, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Post by: Conan on Nov 06, 2012 at 02:37 PM
Post by: plapoy on Nov 07, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 09, 2012 at 03:59 AM
Sir Mark, dumating na 4520 mo? Kindly give us feedback on the experience.Thanks!
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 22, 2012 at 06:55 AM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0156.jpg)
It's the latest Denon model and arguably the current top of the Denon AVR line, with a lot of new features such as a kind of PIP for 5 different sources, Audyssey Low Frequency Containment for those who live in condos and don't want to disturb their neighbors, Dialogue enhancement, etc.
For me, the most outstanding feature is its user-friendliness. Denon AVR's are renowned to be very complicated to setup and use (in my view, Onkyo AVR's are even more confusing). The Denon 4520 is the most user-friendly AVR I have ever used (and I've used 8). The entire setup, including Audyssey, took me less than an hour. The menu has been overhauled and it's now much easier to use.
Bagay ba siya?
Post by: jao143 on Nov 22, 2012 at 06:56 AM
Yes sir Mark, bagay na bagay ;D ;D ;D
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Post by: gaol on Nov 22, 2012 at 09:32 PM
This is a Denon 4520 which is with me, on loan.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0156.jpg)
It's the latest Denon model and arguably the current top of the Denon AVR line, with a lot of new features such as a kind of PIP for 5 different sources, Audyssey Low Frequency Containment for those who live in condos and don't want to disturb their neighbors, Dialogue enhancement, etc.
For me, the most outstanding feature is its user-friendliness. Denon AVR's are renowned to be very complicated to setup and use (in my view, Onkyo AVR's are even more confusing). The Denon 4520 is the most user-friendly AVR I have ever used (and I've used 8). The entire setup, including Audyssey, took me less than an hour. The menu has been overhauled and it's now much easier to use.
Bagay ba siya?
Wow, Mark, how's the sound compared to the 4311?
Post by: mbtorn on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:37 PM
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:57 PM
center, meaning using 2 channel for left 2 for right then 2 for center.thanks!
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:08 AM
Yan ba mapapakinggan this saturday? Wow na wow!!
Yes. Naka-setup na siya.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:10 AM
Wow, Mark, how's the sound compared to the 4311?
Same. The main difference is that the 4520 has many more features, including DTS Neo:x which does 11 channels. Iba siya sa Audyssey DSX 11 channels. Pakinggan natin bukas.
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:11 AM
Sir Mark, can the 4520 amp assign use as bi amp for front left, right
center, meaning using 2 channel for left 2 for right then 2 for center.thanks!
For sure, pwede bi amp to front left and right. Sa center, I don't think so. If you want to make sure, you should ask in the Denon 4520 thread at AVS Forum.
Post by: gaol on Nov 23, 2012 at 07:40 AM
Same. The main difference is that the 4520 has many more features, including DTS Neo:x which does 11 channels. Iba siya sa Audyssey DSX 11 channels. Pakinggan natin bukas.
Yan nga iniisip ko. Since I don't use 11 channels, and some of the features are fluff, the only reason I can think of to upgrade is if I want to transfer the 4311 to have XT32 room correction in a bedroom setup. Looking forward to hearing it in action tomorrow! See you.
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 23, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:43 PM
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:54 PM
Pwede na pumila sa 4311. >:D >:D
yun lang problema sir ernie nakipila din ako pang 10 na yata hahahaha..................................................
pero pila lang sa magbubuhat hahahaha
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 23, 2012 at 01:56 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 23, 2012 at 02:06 PM
sir mark on loan ang status now sa sunod take home na. >:D >:Dnaniwala ka naman na loan yan
Post by: Onkyo606 on Nov 23, 2012 at 02:08 PM
yun sim 2 projector pila na tayo habang wala pan nakapila. ;D ;D
nakupo sir ernie ka presyo na ng buong set up ko yung Sim ni sir mark, ang kaya ko lang eh sim......................................card hahahaha
Post by: Full HD 3D on Nov 23, 2012 at 02:36 PM
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 24, 2012 at 05:47 AM
so excited 1 tulog na lang mae-experience ko na itong uber grand dream theater!
Post by: markcrenz on Nov 24, 2012 at 05:49 AM
Pareho tayo, ako sim ng sun...Hehe.Will be missing you tomorrow Sir Onkyo 606.huh? miss? absent si brod pip?
Post by: plapoy on Nov 24, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 24, 2012 at 09:49 PM
hopefully next year invited ulit......muah muah tsup tsup - wine pa.....ehehe
Post by: joko11 on Nov 25, 2012 at 01:21 AM
SALAMAT NG MARAMI sa WARM WELCOME sa house nyo at sa napaka GARANG setup.....kay ganda......aba at nag wine pala kayo.sosi!
hopefully next year invited ulit......muah muah tsup tsup - wine pa.....ehehe
ako nga naghahanap ng stainless lang.meron sa waterjug sa 1st floor ang sarap.champion!
Post by: defcon3 on Nov 25, 2012 at 02:05 AM
aba at nag wine pala kayo.sosi!
ako nga naghahanap ng stainless lang.meron sa waterjug sa 1st floor ang sarap.champion!
hmmmmmm. hindi naman nagkulang ung mga koleksyones ng alak ni sir mark? bwehehehehe....
Post by: Stagea on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:09 AM
Thanks to the people who selflessly volunteered and worked to plan, organize and conduct the Christmas party. Everything was wonderful. This annual event is truly a rare chance to bring the community together by putting faces to people’s names. It was a pleasure seeing everyone.
Thanks to our sponsors who shared their blessings by taking care of our food and prizes. We are very lucky to have you, and we recognize your kindness.
I’d also take this opportunity to thank DD (firewired) for his generosity in keeping the board active and spiffy. The sharing that happens through his site has been helping us grow in this hobby. It has been an avenue to build new friendships and strengthen existing ones. May his thoughtful gesture be returned a thousand-fold.
Lastly, I’d like to greet everyone who partook in our activity. May we all enjoy abundant blessings and endless cheer this holiday season.
:) :) :)
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:15 AM
Post by: vtec3 on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:27 AM
Post by: Timithekid on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:31 AM
Cheers!
Timi
Post by: plapoy on Nov 25, 2012 at 07:33 AM
Post by: stan1196 on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:49 AM
Post by: rhodem24 on Nov 25, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Congrats sa sucessful christmas party mga sir. Post na kayo pics. Hehehe
Post by: Courage on Nov 25, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 25, 2012 at 12:04 PM
We totally loved your new SIM2 projector!!! Awesomeness!!!! ;D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 25, 2012 at 01:37 PM
hmmmmmm. hindi naman nagkulang ung mga koleksyones ng alak ni sir mark? bwehehehehe....
Pinakuha niya kay efren.
Post by: kt on Nov 25, 2012 at 02:18 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 25, 2012 at 03:45 PM
thanks again bro mark for being a kewl host! :)
let's schedule another EB for that awesome receiver of yours! :D
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 25, 2012 at 05:54 PM
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 25, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Thanks for coming, guys and thanks for being good guests. As I said in the other thread, very happy ang misis ko kasi mababait daw mga guests ko. If she only knew ... ;D
>:D >:D
Post by: joko11 on Nov 25, 2012 at 08:55 PM
Thanks for coming, guys and thanks for being good guests. As I said in the other thread, very happy ang misis ko kasi mababait daw mga guests ko. If she only knew ... ;Ddrool mode sa ht.kung may naka two piece baka nag iba scenario sir marc ;D
Post by: Courage on Nov 25, 2012 at 09:01 PM
Thanks for coming, guys and thanks for being good guests. As I said in the other thread, very happy ang misis ko kasi mababait daw mga guests ko. If she only knew ... ;D
Mababait talaga kami sir streetsmart.... he he he he
Post by: sanmig_ph on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:07 AM
advance merry Christmas to all and thanks sa lahat po ng sponsor.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:19 AM
Hi Sir Mark...
Maraming Salamat Po Ulit...
Sa Napakasaya at Nakakabusog na Xmas Party Ng PDVD... :)
Wag Po Sana kayong Magsasawa...hehe
More Blessings To you and Your Family...
Cheers!!!
Post by: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 06:24 AM
Thanks for coming, guys and thanks for being good guests. As I said in the other thread, very happy ang misis ko kasi mababait daw mga guests ko. If she only knew ... ;Dhehe...mababait po talaga kami..pasensya na nagsama kami ng bata dun....
dala ko ung pamangken ko (xrampage) haha....peace brader..love yah....
salamat po talaga...nasilayan ko ang setup nyo..i dont want to dream it as for sure i wont be able to pursue it haha...
lintek ng mga BD yan....palibot sa bahay....hihihi...
pasensyahan nyo na po at nagpapasok kayo sa bahay nyo ng mga namimirata haha...pang ISO lang daw
again salamat po ng marami till dinner...nakatabi ko pa kayo
sarap talaga nung lumpia (Dynamite)
pati ung dinuguan sinu nagdala....
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Nov 26, 2012 at 10:49 AM
hehe...mababait po talaga kami..pasensya na nagsama kami ng bata dun....
dala ko ung pamangken ko (xrampage) haha....peace brader..love yah....
salamat po talaga...nasilayan ko ang setup nyo..i dont want to dream it as for sure i wont be able to pursue it haha...
lintek ng mga BD yan....palibot sa bahay....hihihi...
pasensyahan nyo na po at nagpapasok kayo sa bahay nyo ng mga namimirata haha...pang ISO lang daw
again salamat po ng marami till dinner...nakatabi ko pa kayo
sarap talaga nung lumpia (Dynamite)
pati ung dinuguan sinu nagdala....
Puwede na ba mag requets na palitan yung site name? kidsdvd ^-^ ^-^ ^-^. But i enjoy a single moment with the pinoydvd members who attend the xmas partee kahit niyayari ako ni derick kaya humanda ka babawian kita. >:D >:D >:D
Again thanks sir mark sa pag tanggap sa amin na magugulo sana sa sunod ay maimbitahan ulet kami at sana puwede pa din ang kids. >:D >:D
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Nov 27, 2012 at 12:16 PM
Thanks also to everyone who donated and shared their food. You made my task easy, pasensya na po sa kulit sa PM. Nice meeting you all!
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Nov 27, 2012 at 03:52 PM
Si Pau_D_Mann ang may dala nang napakasarap na dinuguan... ;D
You are the man Pau!!! ;D
Pati si sir Mark napabilib mo sa luto mo ;)
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Nov 27, 2012 at 05:24 PM
AFAIK...
Si Pau_D_Mann ang may dala nang napakasarap na dinuguan... ;D
You are the man Pau!!! ;D
Pati si sir Mark napabilib mo sa luto mo ;)
Brod luto ni Ermats yun...hehe
binibiro lang kita habang kumakain tayo nun...hehe
Maraming salamat sa lahat ng nakakain ng munti kong dala...
sa mga hindi nakakain bawi na lang kayo next xmas party...hehe joke lang EB tyo ulit...hehe
Post by: joko11 on Nov 28, 2012 at 03:48 AM
Brod luto ni Ermats yun...hehepau pa-PM ng recipe.try ko ihanda sa leche buena
binibiro lang kita habang kumakain tayo nun...hehe
Maraming salamat sa lahat ng nakakain ng munti kong dala...
sa mga hindi nakakain bawi na lang kayo next xmas party...hehe joke lang EB tyo ulit...hehe
Post by: defcon3 on Dec 25, 2012 at 02:34 AM
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 25, 2012 at 08:30 AM
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 25, 2012 at 09:08 AM
HT of the year...hehe
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 25, 2012 at 09:17 AM
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 25, 2012 at 10:00 AM
Post by: sientobente on Dec 25, 2012 at 10:37 AM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Post by: Blackstar on Dec 26, 2012 at 12:57 AM
Post by: JojoD818 on Dec 26, 2012 at 01:27 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Dec 26, 2012 at 06:51 AM
I'm off to Ilocos today with the family and will use the still-unopened but already passable TPLEX! 48 km expressway from SCTEX to Carmen.
Post by: Pau_D_Mann on Dec 26, 2012 at 07:50 AM
Merry Xmas Sir Mark... Have A Safe trip... :)
Post by: shuttertrigger on Dec 26, 2012 at 09:03 PM
Post by: anchit on Dec 28, 2012 at 11:46 AM
Post by: toys4geeks on Dec 31, 2012 at 08:39 AM
Happy New Year!
Post by: raider125jeigh on Dec 31, 2012 at 08:40 AM
happy new year....
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Dec 31, 2012 at 08:50 AM
Post by: stan1196 on Dec 31, 2012 at 09:49 AM
Post by: sientobente on Dec 31, 2012 at 01:38 PM
Post by: sovrain on Dec 31, 2012 at 01:39 PM
Post by: defcon3 on Dec 31, 2012 at 03:33 PM
ESTE, HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013!!!
Post by: praktikal on Dec 31, 2012 at 03:41 PM
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Dec 31, 2012 at 03:48 PM
(http://www.electronichouse.com/images/slideshow/DS_Theatre_Front.jpg)
Post by: joko11 on Dec 31, 2012 at 06:16 PM
Post by: markcrenz on Dec 31, 2012 at 06:53 PM
Post by: Timithekid on Dec 31, 2012 at 07:10 PM
Post by: audiojunkie on Dec 31, 2012 at 10:31 PM
(http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa316/ram_on/NY-2013_zps72bb20f2.gif)
...& More Reference Gears to Come....!
Post by: vgsison on Jan 01, 2013 at 12:49 AM
Post by: stilljey on Jan 01, 2013 at 01:51 AM
(http://i412.photobucket.com/albums/pp208/stilljey/48757c8_20_zps0c1c5c2c.jpeg)
Post by: streetsmart on Jan 01, 2013 at 06:26 PM
Post by: Courage on Jan 01, 2013 at 06:27 PM
Post by: Analog_KiD on Mar 02, 2013 at 01:52 PM
im new here sa pdvd. I would just like to let you know na i enjoyed reading every posts you made lalo na mga pics, nararamdaman ko just by reading your post yung enthusiasm mo sa hobby na ito...
Post by: markcrenz on Mar 02, 2013 at 08:53 PM
Post by: Dollarman on Mar 15, 2013 at 07:38 PM
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 15, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Sir may i know where you bought the banana plugs?PM Narayan
Post by: Dollarman on Mar 28, 2013 at 12:35 PM
PM Narayan
salamat sir.
Post by: pchin on Nov 27, 2014 at 06:42 PM
Post by: timber715 on Nov 27, 2014 at 07:02 PM
Hi Mark, any upgrade lately? :)Hi Paul nice to see you post again, getting a little itch? Hehehehe. Come over and lets play!
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Nov 27, 2014 at 08:31 PM
Hi Mark, any upgrade lately? :)
Amoy Atmos na ba?
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 27, 2014 at 08:31 PM
Hi Mark, any upgrade lately? :)
Hi Paul! The only serious upgrade has been the Sony VPL-VW500 4k projector but that was a year ago. Picture quality is incredible. I also got a Lumagen 2041 video processor to further improve video quality but that was also a year ago.
I am waiting for the Denon AVR 5200 to be available locally. It supports Dolby Atmos, which everyone is praising to high heavens so I have suddenly gotten very interested in another upgrade. If I get this AVR, I will likely buy 4 more speakers, for the ceiling.
How are you doing?
Post by: pchin on Nov 27, 2014 at 10:41 PM
Hi Paul! The only serious upgrade has been the Sony VPL-VW500 4k projector but that was a year ago. Picture quality is incredible. I also got a Lumagen 2041 video processor to further improve video quality but that was also a year ago.
I am waiting for the Denon AVR 5200 to be available locally. It supports Dolby Atmos, which everyone is praising to high heavens so I have suddenly gotten very interested in another upgrade. If I get this AVR, I will likely buy 4 more speakers, for the ceiling.
How are you doing?
I'm fine, been away from PDVD for more than 2 years...too much poison in here hehe.
Whoa those are very nice upgrade you have there Mark! I haven't visited your awesome HT for a long time! Haha yes Dolby Atmos is the hottest cake now & I can't wait to experience it at your place! 4 more speakers? Nice!! The more the merrier :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 28, 2014 at 12:20 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Nov 28, 2014 at 06:44 AM
kailan pala xmas fartee natin bro mark? :)
Eh ikaw na ang mag-organize. Small group lang tayo - up to 12. Sunday pm siguro para wala trapik.
Post by: yygoob on Nov 28, 2014 at 07:07 AM
Post by: jao143 on Nov 28, 2014 at 07:18 AM
And of course, incredible hospitality :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 28, 2014 at 07:48 AM
Eh ikaw na ang mag-organize. Small group lang tayo - up to 12. Sunday pm siguro para wala trapik.
naku swerte ng maiimbita....picture picture na lang at unting kwento pagkatapos ng eb para maexperience din namin ang bagong set up ni sir mark...congrats on your new gears sir markwill pm bro luther :)
makakatikim nanaman ako ng imported na alak nito :D
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 05, 2015 at 12:59 AM
Post by: Moks007 on Apr 05, 2015 at 01:19 AM
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 05, 2015 at 08:35 AM
Post by: pa3ck608 on Apr 05, 2015 at 08:42 AM
Left you feedback for the great deal and it was a pleasure meeting everyone as well.
Post by: Moks007 on Apr 05, 2015 at 09:07 AM
wow kamusta ang mini eb? hayz ang sarap pa naman mag sine dyan, my new sked is killing my social life hehehe
We missed you bro. Sayang. How intense was the sound? On the avalanche scene of teenage mutant ninja turtles, the top rear subwoofer moved forward. I thought meron sumabog na sub or speaker hehe. Atmos, how do I describe it? buong buo ang sound.
Based on reviews, the new release of gravity, with dolby atmos is a demo disc worthy. Sana we had that as one of the test disc. I should have brought my regular gravity bluray disc. Just for the dtshdma sound. If sir Mark will buy the new gravity disc, then we can compare it with mine.
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 05, 2015 at 12:03 PM
We missed you bro. Sayang. How intense was the sound? On the avalanche scene of teenage mutant ninja turtles, the top rear subwoofer moved forward. I thought meron sumabog na sub or speaker hehe. Atmos, how do I describe it? buong buo ang sound.im sure it was a riot bro! april 19 naman ulit ;D (tama ba mag request) :D
Based on reviews, the new release of gravity, with dolby atmos is a demo disc worthy. Sana we had that as one of the test disc. I should have brought my regular gravity bluray disc. Just for the dtshdma sound. If sir Mark will buy the new gravity disc, then we can compare it with mine.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 05, 2015 at 10:40 PM
im sure it was a riot bro! april 19 naman ulit ;D (tama ba mag request) :D
We missed you, and a lot of other pinoydvd friends. Short notice kasi.
Yes, I think that both audio and video have clearly improved. Video upgraded to Sony 4k pj and Lumagen 9x9 color cube processing. Audio upgraded with more and better speakers + Dolby Atmos.
April 19 gusto mo? Sunday?
Post by: Stagea on Apr 06, 2015 at 04:00 AM
There is an evident improvement in Audio and Video compared to the last time that I was in your place. Your new LCOS projector delivers a nice and punchy picture despite the large screen; I think the color processing and scaling work very well with the available dynamic contrast from your PJ. The surround experience is also much better than I remember, especially from the sweet spot. I'm not sure if it was your new speakers, the revised placements or the change in processing, but it made what was a great experience even nicer.
Congrats and thanks again.
Post by: ryn0128 on Apr 06, 2015 at 04:04 AM
Post by: Weng! on Apr 06, 2015 at 04:24 AM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 06, 2015 at 12:01 PM
Post by: synchro_01 on Apr 06, 2015 at 12:12 PM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 06, 2015 at 02:31 PM
The 4K pj is really stunning, period. Contrast, colors, definition 10/10 sometimes I find the clarity distracting sa details tumatagal ang mata ko partida 130" yung screen at upscaled 1080p pa lang yun. ^-^
Always a pleasure to be invited sir Mark. Thanks and congrats!
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 06, 2015 at 02:35 PM
advance congratulations kay Luther for his new LED PJ. ;)Wala na, naunahan na tayo ni Raymond di ba. ;D
Post by: Moks007 on Apr 06, 2015 at 03:36 PM
Wala na, naunahan na tayo ni Raymond di ba. ;D
Uy..uy..Ano yan? ;D Hindi pa ata alam ni Sir Mark nasa akin na. 25 years to pay hehe.. ;D
Nice to see you again Luther.
Thanks sir Mark for the invitation. I wasn't there last December. Pero malaki ang improvement sa panning with the rear speaker placement and the Atmos speakers. Truly very seamless na. Room is filled with sound even in the middle. The PJ is to die for.Ang ganda ng contrast niya. Colors are very vivid. And may I add, this is not a dream theater for me. This is my fantasy theater na because alam ko maski sa panaginip hindi ko ito maabot. Congrats sir and advance congratulations kay Luther for his new LED PJ. ;)
Whenever I go to Sir Mark's place, I like to watch on my setup when I get home. So the following day, I watched Hercules and kept checking the sound and picture quality on my acer lol.. ;D ;D..Naka dream mode ako. Sars attack talaga if you go to Sir Mark's place hehe..
Nice to see you again Nelson.
ps. sarap talaga the red wine. Bibili tuloy ako sa snr hehe..
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 07, 2015 at 10:58 AM
Uy..uy..Ano yan? ;D Hindi pa ata alam ni Sir Mark nasa akin na. 25 years to pay hehe.. ;D
Nice to see you again Luther.
Likewise Raymond, nice to see you all there.
hahah madulas ka talaga sabagay mas magaan yan kesa dun sa sub.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 07, 2015 at 11:19 AM
Likewise Raymond, nice to see you all there.
hahah madulas ka talaga sabagay mas magaan yan kesa dun sa sub.
Kaya nga nabitawan yun sub di ba?
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 07, 2015 at 11:39 AM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Apr 07, 2015 at 11:59 AM
Kaya nga nabitawan yun sub di ba?Buti na lang di nahulog ^-^.
Congrats sir Mark! See you next time. :)Oo nga noh absent si master jojo.
Post by: JojoD818 on Apr 07, 2015 at 12:04 PM
Oo nga noh absent si master jojo.
Bawi na lang ako sa susunod brader.
Post by: vtec3 on Apr 07, 2015 at 01:40 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 07, 2015 at 04:48 PM
Buti na lang di nahulog ^-^.
Oo nga noh absent si master jojo.
Nahulog muna sa kamay niya. ;D
Post by: comet on Apr 10, 2015 at 01:55 PM
Post by: tonedeaf on Apr 10, 2015 at 08:08 PM
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 10, 2015 at 08:30 PM
Congrats Mark. Hopefully sa susunod kasya sa shelf/cabinet ko yung next equipment that you will dispose of :)
If there is a will, there will always be a way. hehe!
Post by: istan on Apr 10, 2015 at 09:16 PM
Kaskas mode ako ngayon for more subs tuloy. Hahaha!
Post by: timber715 on Apr 11, 2015 at 01:38 AM
Congrats on your ever evolving system.
Post by: raptor on Apr 11, 2015 at 01:55 AM
Post by: timber715 on Apr 11, 2015 at 03:00 AM
sarap siguro manood ng Pacquiao-Mayweather dyan Sir Mark ... Las Vegas experience :)Uy uy uy.... Sama ako :o
Post by: Timithekid on Apr 11, 2015 at 05:19 AM
sarap siguro manood ng Pacquiao-Mayweather dyan Sir Mark ... Las Vegas experience :)
Sa linaw ng system ni sir Mark eh ringside experience ka pa! :)
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 11, 2015 at 12:45 PM
Sa linaw ng system ni sir Mark eh ringside experience ka pa! :)
Ma-tilamsikan ka pa ng pawis ni gayweather.
Post by: ricky on Apr 11, 2015 at 01:58 PM
Mark kasi may red wine while fighting wink
Post by: sovrain on Apr 12, 2015 at 06:13 AM
Post by: pchin on Apr 12, 2015 at 06:51 AM
Congrat to Mark for his next level of "awesome" HT...the most advance HT I ever seen (13.6 channels)! Agree with all the members' comments here. Sayang I was suffering a bad flu & had to leave early, thus wasn't able to experience the Dolby Atmos feature. :(
Hope to revisit your awesome 4k/DA HT in the near future. More power! :D
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Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 04, 2016 at 01:47 AM
mamasko po ;D
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 16, 2017 at 05:19 PM
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/F1EF6184-1321-4BD7-80BF-165C602A64E4.jpg)
Of course, this house could not be complete without a home theater:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/87BADF5E-AE52-45EF-BEB1-753335521AE5.jpg)
I've applied some of the lessons I learned from my original theater. The Focal Stella speakers were too close to the walls and so the soundstage was too narrow. This time, I widened the room considerably to give a lot of breathing space for the huge speakers. Floor dimensions are around 8 meters x 6 meters.
Ceiling height is similar - varies from 11 feet in front to 12 feet at the rear.
Acoustics consist of 2", 60 kg rockwool at the entire front wall and half of the rear wall, and then diffusers at the side walls. I would consider that the wood tile flooring could be considered part of the acoustics. The room is definitely not dead but the effect is quite nice. Once I put in a sofa and curtains, that should provide a little bit more dampening and that might just be enough. We'll see. I hope some pinoydvd friends can drop by some day, listen and give some suggestions. My preliminary assessment - it sounds a lot better than the Manila theater.
The project has drained my resources so that for now, I will live with a minimum number of equipment. The speakers from Manila - Focal Utopias for the LCR, Focal Electra for the surrounds and JBL XPL for the wides. The room is wired for surround back speakers, as well as Dolby ceiling speakers (4) but that will come in the future. There are two of my SVS PB-13 Ultra subs.
What has happened to the Manila theater? Still alive with Focal Sopra speakers which, in my view, are even better than the Focal Scala Utopia speakers. They are actually pretty incredible.
The prepro is a new Marantz 7702, with my 3 Emotiva monoblocks, Bryston stereo amp and a new Behringer stereo amp for the wides.
The projector is my SIM2 Mico 50. The problem with this projector is that it is not very bright. I have experimented with a relatively small 100", 1.1 gain Elite screen, with the chairs moved up front. The picture quality is really good but the screen is small. Maybe in a few years, I will upgrade the video.
The flooring is quite nice. It actually consists of three types of wood - kamagong, yakal and narra - as can be better seen in this picture:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/88BD70FA-473F-4C8D-9155-CF2F45AF5810.jpg)
The ceiling also has some kind of design to it, as can be seen in this photo. You may also note that I have surrounded the screen - wall, ceiling and floor - with black.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/C8A56791-E8E8-4CFA-9A65-CC5B0B57115A.jpg)
Beside the theater is a game room with billiards, foosball, air hockey, darts and board games. The wall is a mural painted by some UP artists. The concept is mine.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0039_1.jpg)
In front of the house is a beautiful row of 5 meter-high mahogany trees, which are actually part of my property:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/9F5C2D74-BF94-4476-AB75-41709A22BBE0.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/F0BE327C-D1F8-43E4-9060-72B27F843A05.jpg)
The place is not that far from Manila - 1 hour from Magallanes interchange via Carmona exit of SLEX. Anyone for billiards? :)
Post by: Oldboyracer on Apr 16, 2017 at 06:00 PM
Post by: traveler69 on Apr 16, 2017 at 06:40 PM
That mural is also impressive. Quite a conversation piece.
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Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 17, 2017 at 01:13 AM
Streetsmart's back, tell a friend
Guess who's back, guess who's back
Guess who's back, guess who's back
O0 O0 O0
bro mark, kailan opening? :D
Post by: yygoob on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:07 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:39 AM
Very lovely location for one's retirement. Silang's breezy afternoons, perfect for BBQ. The rustic surroundings belie the sophistication of audio and video equipment inside the house.
That mural is also impressive. Quite a conversation piece.
Quite true but should be qualified. Silang is a huge town and the portion with the best climate is that which is closest to Tagaytay, mainly along Aguinaldo highway, a few km after the town proper. This area is hit by a breeze which seems to come from Laguna de Bay and even the Sierra Madres, especially when the amihan comes. In February, it gets so cold that you need a thick blanket to be able to sleep and the breeze is more like a gale. Matutumba ka sa lakas ng malamig na hangin.
Even now, Silang is still very cool at night so that you don't even need an electric fan to sleep. During the day, it gets hot in the sun but as long as you stay in the shade, it's cool. Since the house has a lot of shaded areas, it's easy to find a cool place throughout the day.
The mural was executed by a group called "Ang Gerilya", originally from UP Fine Arts. Their specialization is street art, comics-style. It took 3 weeks to finalize the concept and then 5 days to paint.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:40 AM
Awesome Sir Mark....Congratulations on your rest house. Hope I get to listen to your new system one day.
Why not? Just PM me and you can come on a weekend.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:42 AM
Guess who's back, back again
Streetsmart's back, tell a friend
Guess who's back, guess who's back
Guess who's back, guess who's back
O0 O0 O0
bro mark, kailan opening? :D
Open na pero ayaw ko na gumawa ng grand opening. Just send me a PM if you want to organize something. Ako na bahala sa alcohol. :-)
Post by: markcrenz on Apr 17, 2017 at 07:00 AM
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Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 17, 2017 at 08:26 AM
Two dream theaters? CONGRATS!!!
living the dream talaga itong si bro mark ano! :D
sana paglaki ko, meron din ako nito :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 17, 2017 at 08:27 AM
Open na pero ayaw ko na gumawa ng grand opening. Just send me a PM if you want to organize something. Ako na bahala sa alcohol. :-)bro mark, how about the same crowd 3 (or was it 4 na) years ago?
Post by: shuttertrigger on Apr 17, 2017 at 08:41 AM
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Post by: praktikal on Apr 17, 2017 at 11:25 AM
Isa ka talagang Alamat sir!
Post by: kefq on Apr 17, 2017 at 11:30 AM
Post by: toys4geeks on Apr 17, 2017 at 12:26 PM
dream ---
Congrats on your retirement , time to enjoy those goodies around you
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Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:35 PM
bro mark, how about the same crowd 3 (or was it 4 na) years ago?
Sige. Bahala ka. As I can see, it's still mainly the same crowd as last time.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:43 PM
Congratulations Mark! Dream theater, dream retirement!
Hindi pa ako retired! Weekends lang ako pumupunta ng Silang. Ang gusto ko lang ay naka-ready na siya for the future, kaya nga one storey lang siya. Meanwhile, I enjoy the climate there, masarap magbasa ng libro sa veranda, enjoy maglaro ng billiards, masarap maglakad sa gabi sa garden, masarap magkape sa porch at siyempre enjoy manood ng sine at concert sa bagong HT.
Ginawa ko rin siya for my mom who is quite old. Napapaligiran kasi ang bahay namin sa Manila ng 4 na construction. Panay alikabok. Mabuti sa Silang, malinis ang hangin at malamig. Ang ganda pa ng garden, maraming flowers.
Post by: edboy7 on Apr 17, 2017 at 06:52 PM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 07:00 PM
bossing marami kami dito sa cavite na member dito. pa experience kami jan. hahaha.
Sinu-sino? Ang kilala ko lang ay si Joel (sanmigph). Siyempre gusto ko rin makilala neighbors ko.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 17, 2017 at 07:02 PM
wow!!!.....retirement place indeed!!! I'm from Imus ..mga 30-45 mins drive din sakin to hehehe......Marantz yung DSP and Emtoiva monoblocks for LCR ...tapos remaining amps would be for the surrounds? ...dayyyyyyym! :) Panalong panalo sir!!!!
Malapit nga Imus. Sige bisita kayo. PM tayo.
Post by: JeromeA on Apr 17, 2017 at 08:50 PM
ako, turbogantry, corpse grinder, trigunther, scumbads, mutah, blackmoly. marami din kami dito nag seset up bossing pero hindi lang member dito sa pdvd.
para makapag experience din kami ng hi end.hihihi. sa hifi show kasi parang madaliang set upan lang yun.
general trias lang kami halos lahat. meron taga jan sa silang, meron din bossing sa dasma.
Post by: gaol on Apr 17, 2017 at 08:58 PM
Hindi pa ako retired! Weekends lang ako pumupunta ng Silang. Ang gusto ko lang ay naka-ready na siya for the future, kaya nga one storey lang siya. Meanwhile, I enjoy the climate there, masarap magbasa ng libro sa veranda, enjoy maglaro ng billiards, masarap maglakad sa gabi sa garden, masarap magkape sa porch at siyempre enjoy manood ng sine at concert sa bagong HT.Hehe, I stand corrected! That should have read, dream retirement place!!! Would love to visit you there soon!
Ginawa ko rin siya for my mom who is quite old. Napapaligiran kasi ang bahay namin sa Manila ng 4 na construction. Panay alikabok. Mabuti sa Silang, malinis ang hangin at malamig. Ang ganda pa ng garden, maraming flowers.
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Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 17, 2017 at 09:43 PM
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Post by: streetsmart on Apr 18, 2017 at 06:38 AM
Congrats Sir Mark! Which is the best route going to your place....just in case. O0
SLEX. Carmona exit. Governor's Drive. GMA-Silang road. Aguinaldo Highway. 3.5 km after Premier Plaza turn right at Balubad-II. 1.0 km afterwards, turn left. 100 meters on the right is big green gate.
One hour from Magallanes.
Post by: JoeyGS on Apr 18, 2017 at 11:49 AM
Great to see that your future HT is nearer our place in Sta. Rosa! Hope to visit you in the future.
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Post by: ricky on Apr 18, 2017 at 01:45 PM
Hindi pa ako retired! Weekends lang ako pumupunta ng Silang. Ang gusto ko lang ay naka-ready na siya for the future, kaya nga one storey lang siya. Meanwhile, I enjoy the climate there, masarap magbasa ng libro sa veranda, enjoy maglaro ng billiards, masarap maglakad sa gabi sa garden, masarap magkape sa porch at siyempre enjoy manood ng sine at concert sa bagong HT.
Ginawa ko rin siya for my mom who is quite old. Napapaligiran kasi ang bahay namin sa Manila ng 4 na construction. Panay alikabok. Mabuti sa Silang, malinis ang hangin at malamig. Ang ganda pa ng garden, maraming flowers.
Dont forget sipping wine before bedtime. Tamang tama wine collection mo dyan.
Congratulations sir mark. Kakainggit talaga, kahit masama mainggit hahaha. Sarap clima nga dyan, also hindi pa masyado crowded like sa tagaytay. 15mins to tagaytay and 20mins to sta. Rosa. Very nice talaga location.
Post by: ricky on Apr 18, 2017 at 01:51 PM
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Post by: Timithekid on Apr 20, 2017 at 06:37 AM
It makes me feel like I'm back in the 80's and the air was not smug with pollution.
Both are impressive sir Mark, congrats.
Post by: docelmo on Apr 20, 2017 at 06:44 AM
I had the privilege of experiencing the "old" setup in manila. I am sure this new one will be even better!
Post by: shuttertrigger on Apr 21, 2017 at 02:35 AM
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:16 AM
Congrats mark on another great theater. Ang ganda din ng lugar very cozy.
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Hi Jay! Long time no see. Madalas ako sa Tarlac-Pangasinan area. Daan ako minsan sa inyo.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:18 AM
si sanmigph retired na yun. focus yun sa bike nya kaso my problema sya sa health nya ngayon eh.
ako, turbogantry, corpse grinder, trigunther, scumbads, mutah, blackmoly. marami din kami dito nag seset up bossing pero hindi lang member dito sa pdvd.
para makapag experience din kami ng hi end.hihihi. sa hifi show kasi parang madaliang set upan lang yun.
general trias lang kami halos lahat. meron taga jan sa silang, meron din bossing sa dasma.
Ikaw na mag-organize ng EB. Siguro Saturday hapon. PM na lang tayo.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:19 AM
Hehe, I stand corrected! That should have read, dream retirement place!!! Would love to visit you there soon!
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Hi Arn. Yes, when you are in the area, you can visit of course. Send me a PM beforehand.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:20 AM
Congrats Sir Mark ...... Cool place!
Great to see that your future HT is nearer our place in Sta. Rosa! Hope to visit you in the future.
Hi Joey. Malapit ka nga pala dito, kayo ni Jazzy Jake. Sige, PM ka when you want to come over.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:21 AM
Cool sir Mark, hope to visit you soon, Silang din po ako, brgy Tartaria, The Mandara Subd. if you are familiar with the place.
Mga 30 minutes away kayo. Sige daan ka dito. PM ka.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:23 AM
Dont forget sipping wine before bedtime. Tamang tama wine collection mo dyan.
Congratulations sir mark. Kakainggit talaga, kahit masama mainggit hahaha. Sarap clima nga dyan, also hindi pa masyado crowded like sa tagaytay. 15mins to tagaytay and 20mins to sta. Rosa. Very nice talaga location.
Tama. Yun nga ginagawa ko, while going around the property sa gabi.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:24 AM
mag volunteer akong mag kodak sa bago mong HT sir Mark! Kunan natin ng malupet na anggulo hehehe! Congrats again sir Mark!
Ito ang hinahanap ko. Wide angle lens. Marunong gumapang para makakuha ng magandang anggulo. Sige dalian mo at gawin mo na.
Post by: Stagea on Apr 21, 2017 at 07:53 AM
Hindi pa ako retired! Weekends lang ako pumupunta ng Silang. Ang gusto ko lang ay naka-ready na siya for the future, kaya nga one storey lang siya. Meanwhile, I enjoy the climate there, masarap magbasa ng libro sa veranda, enjoy maglaro ng billiards, masarap maglakad sa gabi sa garden, masarap magkape sa porch at siyempre enjoy manood ng sine at concert sa bagong HT.
Ginawa ko rin siya for my mom who is quite old. Napapaligiran kasi ang bahay namin sa Manila ng 4 na construction. Panay alikabok. Mabuti sa Silang, malinis ang hangin at malamig. Ang ganda pa ng garden, maraming flowers.
Very nice place, Mark. Congrats on your new home and fresh build!
Post by: vtec3 on Apr 21, 2017 at 09:26 AM
Tiga Cavite ka na din pala :) Umuuwi din ako ng Cavite to visit my parents at least once a month. This Sunday punta ako Cavite. Yes malamig pa din diyan sa Silang. Was in my lola's place (Indang malapit kina Sanmig) a couple of weeks ago and malamig din. Thinking of living again in Cavite kapag nag retire na din ako. Too hot and crowded dito sa Manila :)
Post by: ricky on Apr 21, 2017 at 11:13 AM
Tama. Yun nga ginagawa ko, while going around the property sa gabi.
Baka kailangan mo bodyguard habang nagiikot, apply ako.
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 21, 2017 at 06:49 PM
Baka kailangan mo bodyguard habang nagiikot, apply ako.Baka kailangan mo din ng bodyguard while you are bodyguarding sir Mark apply din ako.
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Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 21, 2017 at 09:20 PM
magandang mag EB dito siguro ng pagabi sabay wine and cheese na sa garden...
hays... sarap ng buhay!
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 22, 2017 at 05:57 AM
If may mag organize this labor day weekend, sama ako.
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Pwede. Either April 28 or 30. Hapon.
Post by: streetsmart on Apr 22, 2017 at 05:58 AM
magandang mag EB dito siguro ng pagabi sabay wine and cheese na sa garden...
hays... sarap ng buhay!
GAME! SALGO NA!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on Apr 22, 2017 at 08:07 AM
Pwede. Either April 28 or 30. Hapon.
GAME! SALGO NA!
this is really looking good! i just hope walang mga plano mag out of town for the unanticipated long weekend...
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Post by: streetsmart on Apr 23, 2017 at 06:15 PM
bro mark, pag friday ba andyan ka? ;D
This coming Friday, nasa Silang ako whole day. Thursday gabi pa lang, andun na ako. Punta kayo?
On normal Fridays, nasa Silang ako sa gabi, after work.
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 24, 2017 at 12:26 AM
This coming Friday, nasa Silang ako whole day. Thursday gabi pa lang, andun na ako. Punta kayo?game! sino sasama? :)
On normal Fridays, nasa Silang ako sa gabi, after work.
6am ako alis from araneta cubao, if ever matuloy :D
Post by: jao143 on Apr 24, 2017 at 06:06 AM
This coming Friday, nasa Silang ako whole day. Thursday gabi pa lang, andun na ako. Punta kayo?
On normal Fridays, nasa Silang ako sa gabi, after work.
Wow, sana makapunta ako :)
I have a planned visit to alfonso cavite this Saturday, will try to move it on Friday para makapunta ako sir Mark :)
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 24, 2017 at 07:53 AM
Wow, sana makapunta ako :)tara bro jao!! agahan natin para maraming sine mapanood!! :D
I have a planned visit to alfonso cavite this Saturday, will try to move it on Friday para makapunta ako sir Mark :)
Post by: jao143 on Apr 24, 2017 at 08:00 AM
tara bro jao!! agahan natin para maraming sine mapanood!! :D
Naku sayang bro, may pasok si Esmi sa Friday ;( Try ko pa ding pakiusapan sabihin ko may EB hehehe
Post by: jay2 on Apr 25, 2017 at 05:30 PM
Hi Jay! Long time no see. Madalas ako sa Tarlac-Pangasinan area. Daan ako minsan sa inyo.
Mark miss ko na yung wine and movies.
Pagmalapit ka dito, anytime visit ka.
Post by: cal0y on Apr 26, 2017 at 02:20 PM
It's been a while since I posted here. I've been busy with work and then over the past year, busy also building a rest house / retirement home in Silang, Cavite.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/F1EF6184-1321-4BD7-80BF-165C602A64E4.jpg)
Of course, this house could not be complete without a home theater:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/87BADF5E-AE52-45EF-BEB1-753335521AE5.jpg)
I've applied some of the lessons I learned from my original theater. The Focal Stella speakers were too close to the walls and so the soundstage was too narrow. This time, I widened the room considerably to give a lot of breathing space for the huge speakers. Floor dimensions are around 8 meters x 6 meters.
Ceiling height is similar - varies from 11 feet in front to 12 feet at the rear.
Acoustics consist of 2", 60 kg rockwool at the entire front wall and half of the rear wall, and then diffusers at the side walls. I would consider that the wood tile flooring could be considered part of the acoustics. The room is definitely not dead but the effect is quite nice. Once I put in a sofa and curtains, that should provide a little bit more dampening and that might just be enough. We'll see. I hope some pinoydvd friends can drop by some day, listen and give some suggestions. My preliminary assessment - it sounds a lot better than the Manila theater.
The project has drained my resources so that for now, I will live with a minimum number of equipment. The speakers from Manila - Focal Utopias for the LCR, Focal Electra for the surrounds and JBL XPL for the wides. The room is wired for surround back speakers, as well as Dolby ceiling speakers (4) but that will come in the future. There are two of my SVS PB-13 Ultra subs.
What has happened to the Manila theater? Still alive with Focal Sopra speakers which, in my view, are even better than the Focal Scala Utopia speakers. They are actually pretty incredible.
The prepro is a new Marantz 7702, with my 3 Emotiva monoblocks, Bryston stereo amp and a new Behringer stereo amp for the wides.
The projector is my SIM2 Mico 50. The problem with this projector is that it is not very bright. I have experimented with a relatively small 100", 1.1 gain Elite screen, with the chairs moved up front. The picture quality is really good but the screen is small. Maybe in a few years, I will upgrade the video.
The flooring is quite nice. It actually consists of three types of wood - kamagong, yakal and narra - as can be better seen in this picture:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/88BD70FA-473F-4C8D-9155-CF2F45AF5810.jpg)
The ceiling also has some kind of design to it, as can be seen in this photo. You may also note that I have surrounded the screen - wall, ceiling and floor - with black.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/C8A56791-E8E8-4CFA-9A65-CC5B0B57115A.jpg)
Beside the theater is a game room with billiards, foosball, air hockey, darts and board games. The wall is a mural painted by some UP artists. The concept is mine.
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/DSC_0039_1.jpg)
In front of the house is a beautiful row of 5 meter-high mahogany trees, which are actually part of my property:
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/9F5C2D74-BF94-4476-AB75-41709A22BBE0.jpg)
(http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb190/streetsmart88/F0BE327C-D1F8-43E4-9060-72B27F843A05.jpg)
The place is not that far from Manila - 1 hour from Magallanes interchange via Carmona exit of SLEX. Anyone for billiards? :)
Such and inspiring property sir, Congratulations!
Post by: XXXyzledge on May 04, 2017 at 04:09 PM
Nice new retirement home!
Congrats!
Post by: ǝʞɐɾ ʎzzɐɾ on May 04, 2017 at 08:17 PM
HI sir Mark!
Nice new retirement home!
Congrats!
pssssssst lapit lang sa atin nito! puntahan na natin!
Post by: timber715 on May 04, 2017 at 10:00 PM
Post by: streetsmart on May 06, 2017 at 07:03 AM
HI sir Mark!
Nice new retirement home!
Congrats!
Hay! Neighbor! Punta na kayo ni Jake. Dala ka junk food, bahala ako sa beer and wine!
Post by: streetsmart on May 06, 2017 at 07:06 AM
congrats sir Mark...
Bisita ka na. Makikita mo lahat ng exotic wood, including akle, balayong, magkono, dao, sampaloc, adaan, etc. I have around 20 kinds of wood.
Post by: qguy on Jun 03, 2017 at 03:42 AM
Mark miss ko na yung wine and movies.
Post by: qguy on Jun 03, 2017 at 03:47 AM
Anyone for billiards? :)
PM when we get a group to play pool :) Have not played regularly in a while :(
Post by: ESi on Jun 03, 2017 at 10:09 AM
Post by: dts-HD 3D on Jun 18, 2017 at 09:54 PM
7 hours is not enough . . . hindi pa namin na-hijack ang play room^-^ but we had a good time.
Congrats! You deserve all the blessings.
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Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jun 18, 2017 at 11:07 PM
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Happy Times. Happy Fathers Day to you guys.
Post by: Stagea on Jun 19, 2017 at 06:35 AM
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Post by: JeromeA on Jun 19, 2017 at 08:20 AM
Thanks Sir Mark for your hospitality. Your retirement home is well-located and impressively artful, plus its home theater is decidedly a step up from your already great Manila build. Things can only get better from this point on.
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k175/stagea/20170617_153748_DxO_zps46ynakvk.jpg)
napakaganda!
Post by: ndotcom on Jun 19, 2017 at 09:43 AM
Salamat din kay bro Luther for the ride and nice meeting you all guys!
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Congratz Sir Mark!... :)
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happy birthday sir mark!
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