bought a 5-disc NAD cd player...its model is 505. checked the net including their homepage but found no model for 505..was wondering if its fake but its construction is good and solid. =)
blade...got it for 5T only...got worried kasi yong carousel nya medyo nagpapause kung nagdidisc change ako..alam mo ba anong cable gagamitin duon sa digital out nya? at paano gagana yong remote eh wala naman syang sensor sa harap =)
tnx levi! =)
pedor2,
Hi, I have a question lang if you don't mind? :) san kayo naka bili ng MF x-dac at magkano? meron din ako nung luma na NAD 502, it sounds great and all, pero syempre, upgrade. ;)
Yun lang po. ;D
Caohyde
redkoji, sent you a pm.
guys, how much is a NAD C521i/ C541i CD Player? sino mga dealers?
Its official already, we shall introduce the C542 by next year na by March na po ng 2004. Price is estimated at Php22K.
Sorry Sir, the T542 will be tentative launching month is February
hi, how about the 521bee? will it be available in the Phils?
ty
iceman,
i was told by pj tuico from studio system that the c542 cdp will be out by late november. redjoki stated in his last post that what will be coming out on february is the t542. i hope both of you are talking the same banana. ;D
I recently auditioned the 521bee and the 542 in singapore. For the price diff, go with the 542, fuller sound. By the way, fyi, both come in titanium finish. :)
But, i ended up with neither ;)
how much are those players sir?...
by the way, 521bee is, i think, only 20-bit...
I only remember the exact price of the 542, it was S$590 for the titanium finish (USD1=S$1.68). The price diff vs the 521 wouldn't have been more than S$150, but then again, i may be mistaken. Sorry, the 521 wasn't in my list that's why i don't remember the price. I was able to audition both because it was part of the sales guy's pitch.
I think the local price when it comes out here wouldn't be too far off though. But if you're in a rush, source it from singapore now. What's so nice about singapore stores is that they'll advise you how to bring it in without getting taxed by the local customs :)
that'd be around PhP20k... Studio Systems predicts it at PhP22k when it comes in 1st quarter of 2004. hhhmmmm.
that'd be around PhP20k... Studio Systems predicts it at PhP22k when it comes in 1st quarter of 2004. hhhmmmm.
Official price of the C542...P20,000
As per last transmittal with NAD, the shipped ETA will be February 27
Finally, audioslave and I got our NAD c542 from Studio Systems yesterday thru PJ...my initial impression...paired with the NAD c320BEE...it's worth the long wait ;D
My first CD Player was a NAD C521i. Unfortunately, because I love this gear so much - I decided to let it go to let the new C542 mystify my senses. For awhile, I've been using my Pioneer DVD Player to play my CDs during the interregnum when I was waiting for the availability of the NAD C542. This apparent void in my system prompted me to itch for the C542 by the passage of day. Inasmuch as owning a NAD C542 is a big leap from my present entry-level DVD Player, I immediately noticed remarkable improvements, both aesthetically and sonically. The C542 is a notch higher model than my previous C521i and equally smartly built based on NAD's signature of simplicity and superb technology.
Except for the HDCD decoder LED that I now see on the faceplate, the all-familiar battleship grey color on its casework is still immaculate although the new model now sports a rounded or circular corners on the front plate. The inside mechanism of its moving parts audaciously stands out with remarkably silent operational feel. The C542's sonic character is one that exudes desirable qualities like superb fidelity letting you enjoy more dynamic range, precised imaging, focused soundstage and extremely natural vocal and musical timbre - being an HDCD equipped player. It is like akin to inserting a WS Tono Preamp between the source and the amp whereby the previously faint or unheard of reproduction suddenly becomes alive and readily discernible. As reviewed by its maker - the C542 is boasting in low frequency slam and extension with timbral accuracy and lucid harmonic structure of its predecessor, the C541i.
This is a player that I would like to settle with for keeps and enjoy over time or until an itch to upgrade to a higher model would, once again, become an incessant craving. I don't profess to be an expert in evaluating audio gears but certainly I wouldn't be contradicting my pair of ears when I say there is little much to be desired in its lucid and clean resolution. Compared to Rotel's RCD 1070 and Exposure's 2010, the best sounding CD Players that I've heard so far, this player doesn't quite rise to the heights of the better models I've mentioned above. Nonetheless, the C542 can recreate the full richness and detail of any recordings, though it may lack the expressive dynamic range of the 2010 and the punch and thump of the 1070. Few noticeable flaws which may not be perceptible to others with better ancillary equipment can be described as being nearly bright and occasionally harsh but these weakness can be solely attributed to my weakest link - the lesser endowed Pioneer A-405 amp. With proper coupling using better interconnects and cables, one can expect plenty of aural experience from the C542. By and large, the C542's overall signature can well be categorized as a good all-rounder CD Player with capability to play a wide variety of music types without slump in overall sonic quality.
As an example, Fleetwood Mac sounded so alive in "Dreams" while my favorite Style Council track "You're The Best Thing" is much like reminiscing the happier moments in life. Steely Dan's "Hey Nineteen" reminded me a lot of my good ole days while listening to "Pieces" by Patricia Barber is so involving. Diana Krall's "Look of Love" simply made me aware of her virtuosity as a pianist while at the same time letting me visualize how seductive she was in that music video of the same title. Playing my reference Chesky CD "The Ultimate Demonstration Disc", the C542's resolving prowess is an epitome of excellence in Rebecca Pidgeon's "Spanish Harlem". Some serious audiophile would say, the first upgrade we should mind to care is to make the most out of our source - based on the time-honored principle of "trash in - trash out". No matter how good our amp can be, aural fantasy simply begins and boils down to how proficient our source can decode, colorize and convey those signals to our amp's input.
Inasmuch as the C542 was christened by the ever reliable NAD, a Canadian firm advocating affordable but musically superior audio gears, this CD Player is warmly recommended.
Associated Equipment:
NAD C542 CD Player -> Quantum DIY interconnects -> Pioneer A-405 Integrated Amp -> Soundstream 12AWG generic speaker cables -> Mordaunt-Short 914
CDs played (so far):
Chesky's Ultimate Demonstration Disc, Rebecca Pidgeon- The Raven, Diana Krall - The Look of Love, Patricia Barber - Verse, Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits, Style Council - Collection, Steely Dan - Then and Now, Red Hot Chili Peppers - Greatest Hits
:-*
My first CD Player was a NAD C521i. Unfortunately, because I love this gear so much - I decided to let it go to let the new C542 mystify my senses. For awhile, I've been using my Pioneer DVD Player to play my CDs during the interregnum when I was waiting for the availability of the NAD C542. This apparent void in my system prompted me to itch for the C542 by the passage of day. Inasmuch as owning a NAD C542 is a big leap from my present entry-level DVD Player, I immediately noticed remarkable improvements, both aesthetically and sonically. The C542 is a notch higher model than my previous C521i and equally smartly built based on NAD's signature of simplicity and superb technology.
Except for the HDCD decoder LED that I now see on the faceplate, the all-familiar battleship grey color on its casework is still immaculate although the new model now sports a rounded or circular corners on the front plate. The inside mechanism of its moving parts audaciously stands out with remarkably silent operational feel. The C542's sonic character is one that exudes desirable qualities like superb fidelity letting you enjoy more dynamic range, precised imaging, focused soundstage and extremely natural vocal and musical timbre - being an HDCD equipped player. It is like akin to inserting a WS Tono Preamp between the source and the amp whereby the previously faint or unheard of reproduction suddenly becomes alive and readily discernible. As reviewed by its maker - the C542 is boasting in low frequency slam and extension with timbral accuracy and lucid harmonic structure of its predecessor, the C541i.
This is a player that I would like to settle with for keeps and enjoy over time or until an itch to upgrade to a higher model would, once again, become an incessant craving. I don't profess to be an expert in evaluating audio gears but certainly I wouldn't be contradicting my pair of ears when I say there is little much to be desired in its lucid and clean resolution. Compared to Rotel's RCD 1070 and Exposure's 2010, the best sounding CD Players that I've heard so far, this player doesn't quite rise to the heights of the better models I've mentioned above. Nonetheless, the C542 can recreate the full richness and detail of any recordings, though it may lack the expressive dynamic range of the 2010 and the punch and thump of the 1070. Few noticeable flaws which may not be perceptible to others with better ancillary equipment can be described as being nearly bright and occasionally harsh but these weakness can be solely attributed to my weakest link - the lesser endowed Pioneer A-405 amp. With proper coupling using better interconnects and cables, one can expect plenty of aural experience from the C542. By and large, the C542's overall signature can well be categorized as a good all-rounder CD Player with capability to play a wide variety of music types without slump in overall sonic quality.
As an example, Fleetwood Mac sounded so alive in "Dreams" while my favorite Style Council track "You're The Best Thing" is much like reminiscing the happier moments in life. Steely Dan's "Hey Nineteen" reminded me a lot of my good ole days while listening to "Pieces" by Patricia Barber is so involving. Diana Krall's "Look of Love" simply made me aware of her virtuosity as a pianist while at the same time letting me visualize how seductive she was in that music video of the same title. Playing my reference Chesky CD "The Ultimate Demonstration Disc", the C542's resolving prowess is an epitome of excellence in Rebecca Pidgeon's "Spanish Harlem". Some serious audiophile would say, the first upgrade we should mind to care is to make the most out of our source - based on the time-honored principle of "trash in - trash out". No matter how good our amp can be, aural fantasy simply begins and boils down to how proficient our source can decode, colorize and convey those signals to our amp's input.
Inasmuch as the C542 was christened by the ever reliable NAD, a Canadian firm advocating affordable but musically superior audio gears, this CD Player is warmly recommended.
Associated Equipment:
NAD C542 CD Player -> Quantum DIY interconnects -> Pioneer A-405 Integrated Amp -> Soundstream 12AWG generic speaker cables -> Mordaunt-Short 914
CDs played (so far):
Chesky's Ultimate Demonstration Disc, Rebecca Pidgeon- The Raven, Diana Krall - The Look of Love, Patricia Barber - Verse, Fleetwood Mac - Greatest Hits, Style Council - Collection, Steely Dan - Then and Now, Red Hot Chili Peppers - Greatest Hits
:-*
galing review mo bro. ive several queries lang
1) comparing cd playback (have no plans on purchasing hdcds anytime soon), malaki ba and diff ng 542 sa 521i? cant afford the 542 but if the 521i is as good as the 542 on cd playback or close, might settle for it.
2) maganda ba sa bass department ang 521i?
thanks!
bro raycor, how's your new toy?
malaki ba ang improvement ng Paradigm mo using your new XLO Pro 600 speaker cable? not to mention the enhancement brought about by your new C521BEE.... you must be in a dreamland right now.... he he he he
:-*
punk kid,
btw, sabi ko naman sayo punta ka lang dito sa bahay nang ma-audition mo MS914. gusto mo samahan pa kita sa 5th Avenue para maka-discount ka... :-*
cousinskeeter
based on my listening experience using the 2 models mentioned, malaki ang improvement in all aspects.... mas superior talaga ang 542 compared to the 521i. yesterday, raycor (who recently purchased the 521bee) and I had a chance to A-B the 542 vis-a-vis his 521bee, using the same amp, same remote control and same imported high resolution CDs of the same title but my CDP (542) was hooked to the amp using a lesser quality ICs while his (521bee) was bridged to the amp using a better ICs.... and the result was..... the 542 can't seem to outshine or outperform the 521bee except that the 542's advantage in reproducing high frequencies with a tint of atmosphere is very much discernible. both CDPs excel much in the bass area of the frequency band and compared to 521i, the latter model is not in the same league as the 2 aforementioned CDPs.
;D
Cousin Skeeter, the 521BEE is available from Studio Systems or any of their dealers for 13.5k. A dealer, AV Surfer, has a 0% interest promo for the summer for Equitable cards!
Good day Skeeter,
Currently, I'm not aware of any promo for C521BEE under AV Surfer. Can you let me know which branch of AV Surfer claiming such.
Your price of C521BEE is right...it can be purchase at P13.5K...
For those interested there is still one unit of C521i available at P9.8K...please contact for details....893-8011
For those interested there is still one unit of C521i available at P9.8K...please contact for details....893-8011
Can this CD player decode HCDC? Thks.
does anyone know the telephone number of spectra? or if they still have the 521bee.thanks!
nope - that would be the 542...
ubos na? was planning to audition them on friday. punta pa nman ako manila tomorrow. wrong timing talaga. :( :(
does anyone know the telephone number of spectra? or if they still have the 521bee.thanks!
as of last saturday, spectra still had units of the 521bee. i'm not sure if they still have the 521i though. :)
Pre, kumuha ka na ba? :)
yup. the 521bee. ;)
may rerekomenda ka sana? ;D
he he he - dami ko na sinabi ah ???
isa na namang naimpluwensiyahan... bwa ha ha ha ;D
hehe. di ko kayang mag peanut butter sandwich diet eh. ;D
he he he -ma OT tayo nyan, post ka na lang ng review ng 521bee :D
just got back from manila and got me a nad502 from orland. nice meeting u pre. finally got me a decent cd player. wanted to try out the 521bee kaso didnt have time to pass by spectra.
hopefully next time i go back there, baka maka join na ako sa listening session ng kwela boys ;D ;D
just got back from manila and got me a nad502 from orland. nice meeting u pre. finally got me a decent cd player. wanted to try out the 521bee kaso didnt have time to pass by spectra.
hopefully next time i go back there, baka maka join na ako sa listening session ng kwela boys ;D ;D
p.s.
i left home for the office 10am today. was enjoying so much listening to my yanni cds again that i forgot the time. good thing my boss is on travel. ;D ;D ;D
that is known as the "last CD syndrome" where you have to leave, sleep, etc. but you reach for your cd player to play a new one while murmuring..'last cd tapos tama na muna...'
;D
NAD 742: ~20K
Rotel (forgot the model): 24 ~ 25K available at Sound Dimension
Thanks Philander. That must be the RCD-02, right? (I think the other model, RCD-1072? goes for 32T.)
Interesting. At that price level, for a 5K difference, shouldn't I opt for a ROTEL? What could be a compelling factor to go NAD, price aside?
Hmmm... though i'm not a convinced believer in upsampling, a better DAC/filter in general would be compelling alright. I think a more thorough research is in order. Thanks again, bro Philander. BTW, is the NAD faceplate plastic or metal?
nad 742 or 542??
try to audition nad 542 and rcd-02 and compare them. some buyers opt for a 24 bit hdcd decoding (nads) while others on sonic tastes irregardless of bit decoders (rotels with only 18 bit).
in my opinion, i'll get the rotel if i can afford to shell another 5k for a good reference cd player even if it's 18 bit only hdcd decoder. ;)
what speakers are you going to use av_phile? looks like your on an upgrading spree based on the threads i've read hehe
good luck dude :D
make sure if you opt for the rcd-02 of rotel you audition it thoroughly, some say the player sounds "muddied" but they say it has something to do with the power supply that came with some of the units shipped here. the ones available now might not have that problem though. Still if my budget is at the 20k range i will go with the nad, if its in the 30k++ range i would go with the rcd-1072 :)
Currently the S500i is being sold directly by Studio Systems thru order basis arrangement...we cannot comment on the price but more or less its bracket is in between P50-60,000.00.
punk kid,
si carlos tanong mo.... 521BEE ang gamit nya ngayon at tiyak masayang masaya yun ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
anyone using nad 521bee here? please tell us your review about this cdp. im thinking of getting one. tnx
If it ain't HDCD capable, get the other model. Even if you do not use HDCD discs, any CD sound will benefit from the superior digital filters of HDCD players. Just my thoughts.
Getting cheaper by the month, it seems. ;D Konting hintay pa. Hope Rotels also get cheaper.
Thanks for your reassuring words. :(
Garp, if you are happy with the OPA 2134, wait till you get your hands on the OPA627.
I was happy with the Rotel RA931 Mk II's OPA 2134. But curiousity got the better of me and I scored a dual OPA627AU. Music opened up and has since been a good match with my tube cd player.
Some prefer the AD825. A lot cheaper. But I have yet to try them.
My OPA 2134 is up for sale if anyone is interested. Emaail me at [email protected]
Check-out the review of NAD C352 and C542 on WHATS HiFi...
on thier May and June edition
Unfortunately OPA627 is not a dual opamp so not a direct replacement as is AD825. I have replaced the opa2134 with ad826 and the result is fantastic. My experiments with opamps before yielded only moderate results but this time the change is noticeable and in a good way, which I didn't really expect following my disappointing experience with the much vaunted LM6172. Now I can fully recommend AD826 to be on the shortlist of those wishing to upgrade opamps on NAD cd players.
Sir I've heard that AD8066 is the best replacement with OPA2134, i've read a review that this is really day & night comparison.
BTW, where did you bought your AD826? Thanks, wish i can find AD8066 this is also a plugin replacement.
You are right AD8066 is SOIC Pkg. it's a Surface Mount Device and very difficult to solder. By the way,Sorry i'm not familiar with Newark can they sell a piece which is already attached to a PDIP(Thru hole) adaptor? Based on what I've read on the net, owner review with this tweak really happy with the result, some says they like having a new CD player. My CD player OP Amp is already socketed, if I will replace with another direct plug-in OP amp no need for soldering. Thanks for your help hope you can plug-in your AD8066 so that you can share your review.
Yes I actually have been wanting to try AD8066 and this one actually is what Lars of LC Audio prefers over the AD825. I actually have a pair at home. But AD8066 is available only in SOIC package so its not really a plug in replacement unless I get a brown dog adapter. I got the AD chips as samples while in the US. But AD's 8066, 8065, 825, 826 are available at Newark via Access Frontiers in Makati.
Yes I actually have been wanting to try AD8066 and this one actually is what Lars of LC Audio prefers over the AD825. I actually have a pair at home. But AD8066 is available only in SOIC package so its not really a plug in replacement unless I get a brown dog adapter. I got the AD chips as samples while in the US. But AD's 8066, 8065, 825, 826 are available at Newark via Access Frontiers in Makati.
Yes I actually have been wanting to try AD8066 and this one actually is what Lars of LC Audio prefers over the AD825. I actually have a pair at home. But AD8066 is available only in SOIC package so its not really a plug in replacement unless I get a brown dog adapter. I got the AD chips as samples while in the US. But AD's 8066, 8065, 825, 826 are available at Newark via Access Frontiers in Makati.
I've got AD 8066 the only problem is the brown dog adapter (from SMD to TH) Somebody can help? How much kaya adapter? I have 4 pcs. AD8066 just in case ok na yung dalawa I will let go of the other 2
garp,
do you have contact numbers of newark? am not from manila kasi. thanks! although i would imagine these to be quite expensive.
audioslave,
thanks bro. will check it out :)
I've got AD 8066 the only problem is the brown dog adapter (from SMD to TH) Somebody can help? How much kaya adapter? I have 4 pcs. AD8066 just in case ok na yung dalawa I will let go of the other 2Anybody can provide a pair of browndog adapter in exchange with the pair of 8066
Anybody can provide a pair of browndog adapter in exchange with the pair of 8066
(0916) 2170992
Bro,
I will try to purchase the adapters, but the minimum is 5 pcs per order. Gusto mo maki hati?
Thanks.
Bogsle
bogs, sali ako dyan ha...
Hey Guys,
Are there any members the offering of NAD dealers...its a definitely a must!!!
sir, kindly rephrase your sentence...
Sorry Sir,
We have not included the Audio tuner since, theres no available stock of this model here in the Philippines...
Currently the Citibank 0% interest for 12 months is exclusively on the following NAD models : NAD CD-players C-521BEE, and the C-542, the integrated amp C-320BEE, C352, C-370, under AV-Surfer. This can be avail also thru different cards such as BPI, HSBC, AIG...however, the 0% interest is up to 6 months or less.
There are also BIG CASH discount available at our other dealer such as Spectra-Park Square, Audio Execellance_Cybermall libis, and Sights&Sounds- Shangrila.
If your looking for the hard to fine models of NAD such as the turntable and PP2 Phono Amplifier or old models...this can be bought directly to
Sorry Sir,
We have not included the Audio tuner since, theres no available stock of this model here in the Philippines...
Currently the Citibank 0% interest for 12 months is exclusively on the following NAD models : NAD CD-players C-521BEE, and the C-542, the integrated amp C-320BEE, C352, C-370, under AV-Surfer. This can be avail also thru different cards such as BPI, HSBC, AIG...however, the 0% interest is up to 6 months or less.
There are also BIG CASH discount available at our other dealer such as Spectra-Park Square, Audio Execellance_Cybermall libis, and Sights&Sounds- Shangrila.
If your looking for the hard to fine models of NAD such as the turntable and PP2 Phono Amplifier or old models...this can be bought directly to
Called up Sights and Sound and they only offer 6-months 0% (kuno) via Citibank for NAD C542, not 12. Care to confirm? Thanks.
Bro about how much na ang NAD C542 ??? Interested din ako to upgrade sana to this model.
I'm already contemplating of selling my NAD 521bee (bought only April 2004). Perhaps someone here might be interested he he he . . . just to get my hands on a C542 or perhaps a used 1070. Like to try a HDCD cdp for a change.
Na SARS na ulit ata ako ::) ::) ::)
It's 18k cash, either at Spectra or Sights. There's a 4-month old 1072 at B&S section. Still pricey. I think NAD C542 uses a 24-bit Burr Brown, while Rotel has retained its 20-bit Burr-brown DAC from the 1070 line. I personally prefer the look and built of Rotel, though. I have been targetting the Rotel 1072, but the review in Hi-Fi choice, giving it only 3 stars somehow turned me off, plus my poor finances, ofcourse. ;D Check this:
http://www.hifichoice.co.uk/review_print.asp?ID=2751
Ofcourse reviews are just that. Your personal preferrence and bias still rules at the end of the day.
Bro if 6 month 0% interest whats the SRP of the C542 is it 18k or higher. If its 18k (thats 3k per month for 6 months) . . . . . isip isip isip ::) ::) ::)
Thanks again.
Bro if 6 month 0% interest whats the SRP of the C542 is it 18k or higher. If its 18k (thats 3k per month for 6 months) . . . . . isip isip isip ::) ::) ::)
Thanks again.
18k is cash outright. 20k is their standard price for which the 6-month 0% installment is computed. That's P3,333.33 per month. Isip isip isip din ;D
go go go zephry.... yakang yaka mo yan.. congrats in advance... ;D ;)
e kung noon pa sana kayo bumili ng NAD C542
e di sana nakangiti na kayo nang ganito => ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
18k is cash outright. 20k is their standard price for which the 6-month 0% installment is computed. That's P3,333.33 per month. Isip isip isip din ;D
e kung noon pa sana kayo bumili ng NAD C542
e di sana nakangiti na kayo nang ganito => ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
After a month of research and listening around.... sa C542 rin pala ako mauuwi. ;D
Old love never dies.....
Bili na! Para umangat ang ekonomiya! :)
Konting pang-pagana:
http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2004/nad_542.shtml
(http://www.audioenz.co.nz/2004/images/nad_C542.jpg)
Ok. After 4 days, my NAD C542 sounds superb again. My CD enjoyment has improved tremendously from my Pioneer DV-676A.
I strongly recommend this to anyone in search of a good CD player. You can spend much more but the sonic quality will only be the same or slightly better to cd players in the P20k to P40k range.
Also, well-recorded HDCD's like those from Linn are really great sounding! I can't wait to save for some more HDCDs. :)
you can even listen to it side by side with the Rotel RCD-1072 and you'll end up liking the NAD for being a more detailed player. ;D
Atty,
Baka mabasa ni Don Kimpao ito... at biglang madagdag ito sa agenda on Saturday. Ahehehehe... ;D
Atty,
Baka mabasa ni Don Kimpao ito... at biglang madagdag ito sa agenda on Saturday. Ahehehehe... ;D
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Alin GR1 na upgraded at NAD542. ;D
Alin GR1 na upgraded at NAD542. ;D
i recommended it to heropsychodreamer and he got one without blink of an eye. i'm pretty sure, he's enjoying his player now just like we do. ;D
tara na ... eheste sama ba ako dito?... inaamag na ako sa earlier page ng thread na to ah... uuuyyy sama nyo naman ako pag may shootout ha. OT: sabi ni torney text nya ako... torney, natuloy ba kayo kila akayat yesterday? may C542 bang nabitbit para masali dun?
I just got the c542 last week from sight and sound shangri-la for 18k. Spectra went down to 18.5k. It was good that I looked around and saved some money.
I just have to say that i am extremely happy about the nad c542. I have not been writing in this forum but am moved to write because the c542 makes me SO happy. ;D
I just got the c542 last week from sight and sound shangri-la for 18k. Spectra went down to 18.5k. It was good that I looked around and saved some money.
I just have to say that i am extremely happy about the nad c542. I have not been writing in this forum but am moved to write because the c542 makes me SO happy. ;D
Sana by summer maging 15T na.
How would the 542 compare with a tube CD player? Any feedback? Halos twice the price kasi. Will use it with my Duntonic 3.i and S1
A tube CD just uses a tube buffer op amp instead of the usual integrated chips. It still uses chips for its digital and analog recovery circuits. So if you are using tubes in your system, might as well get one. You can't use the digital output or else you'd be bypassing the tube circuits. And don't expect to benefit from HDCD playback that the 542 has. But I am sure there are tube decoders and DACS out there as well, costing thrice that of the 542.
According to the grapevine, c 542 17T na lang daw sa sight and sound sa shang (cash). as of feb 7 yan. fyi. ;)
Ang sama pala ng service ng NAD distributor!
My NAD C542 broke after 6 months of use and I sent it to Sights and Sounds in Shangri-La. 2 weeks na, hindi pa rin nila alam ang sira! >:(
Everything seems to work, and no error messages, pero no sound comes out of the audio-out jacks.
I wish they just replace the unit so I can start enjoying my music again.
Myki
I just received a call from Sights and Sounds last night... the audio section of my NAD player was busted. So after waiting for almost 3 weeks to get this call.... they tell me they have to import the part and it will take at least 4 weeks! The caller said I can still use the digital outs though... but why would I want to do that? I bought the NAD for the audio outs.
Sir Redkoji, can I ask your help on this?
FedEx can ship parts overnight so I don't know why it should take 4 weeks. I've been a loyal NAD guy. As a matter of fact, I have bought 2 NAD C542's in a span of 6 months! My next probable purchase is for a NAD universal DVD player.
Help!
Ok. So I just talked to Sights and Sounds... and guess what? They tell me that since my unit is already 6 months and 5 days old, they said I have to pay for the part since the unit has only 6 MONTHS WARRANTY ON PARTS and 12 MONTHS ON LABOR.
What the! When I was buying the unit, all they said was it had a 1 YEAR WARRANTY!
And how much is the broken part? P5,000!!!!!!!!
So I was irritated since this is the 2nd NAD C542 I bought in a span of 6 months and this is the customer service I get.
So I asked for the number of Studio Systems... the importer of NAD. I'm hoping that I can get more service there. So I called them up, and when I told them my predicament, they told me that they can't honor the WARRANTY because of MISUSE.
So I asked what MISUSE? They told me that I made heavy use of CD-R on the player. WHAT!? Yes, I do play CD-R's but only backups of the originals that I have. They even told me that it was because these International companies wanted to shun piracy. I didn't even ask how they came out with the conclusion that CD-Rs destroyed my almost new unit. Did it have a counter inside?
I told them I didn't have pirated CDs! And now they say maybe I used inferior CD-Rs which I buy from CD-R King. Well, I do use Benq CD-Rs from CD-R King but as I have said, I only have a few CD-R backups and I mostly use it for my car.
So how did our conversation end?
I will have to wait 4 weeks for a PART that they were not even sure if it is ON STOCK, and when that PART comes, then I will have to pay P5,000 for it.
The silver-lining? Well, Redkoji said that if they can get the part lower than the price they are expecting, then they will give me a discount on it. Since I bought my 2 cd players and B&W speakers from Sights and Sounds, they said they will give me a brand new unit, and I will just have to pay them the P5,000. Gee... thanks!
Anyway, things are not finalized yet...... once I get the final decision..... you will know if I will continue to be a NAD fan or a StudioSystems/Sights and Sounds HATER!
Buti pa Listening in Style.... when I bought my speakers there, and after a week I wanted to trade it for another model... payag kaagad sila.
bawal ba mag play ng cdr sa nad cd players? ??? nasa provisions ba ng warranty?
Ok. So I just talked to Sights and Sounds... and guess what? They tell me that since my unit is already 6 months and 5 days old, they said I have to pay for the part since the unit has only 6 MONTHS WARRANTY ON PARTS and 12 MONTHS ON LABOR.
What the! When I was buying the unit, all they said was it had a 1 YEAR WARRANTY!
Ok. So I just talked to Sights and Sounds... and guess what? They tell me that since my unit is already 6 months and 5 days old, they said I have to pay for the part since the unit has only 6 MONTHS WARRANTY ON PARTS and 12 MONTHS ON LABOR.
What the! When I was buying the unit, all they said was it had a 1 YEAR WARRANTY!
So I asked for the number of Studio Systems... the importer of NAD. I'm hoping that I can get more service there. So I called them up, and when I told them my predicament, they told me that they can't honor the WARRANTY because of MISUSE.
So I asked what MISUSE? They told me that I made heavy use of CD-R on the player. WHAT!? Yes, I do play CD-R's but only backups of the originals that I have. They even told me that it was because these International companies wanted to shun piracy. I didn't even ask how they came out with the conclusion that CD-Rs destroyed my almost new unit. Did it have a counter inside?
I told them I didn't have pirated CDs! And now they say maybe I used inferior CD-Rs which I buy from CD-R King. Well, I do use Benq CD-Rs from CD-R King but as I have said, I only have a few CD-R backups and I mostly use it for my car.
I will have to wait 4 weeks for a PART that they were not even sure if it is ON STOCK, and when that PART comes, then I will have to pay P5,000 for it.
The silver-lining? Well, Redkoji said that if they can get the part lower than the price they are expecting, then they will give me a discount on it. Since I bought my 2 cd players and B&W speakers from Sights and Sounds, they said they will give me a brand new unit, and I will just have to pay them the P5,000. Gee... thanks!
...
I thought I was doing the rest of the Pinoy NAD users (present and future) a favor by warning them of the problems of NAD warranties.
Last week, I talked to Ronald who is (I think) the head of marketing of Studio Systems. He was the one who told me about my "misuse". When I asked him that "shouldn't it be the lens that will be damaged if I use CD-Rs?" He said he can't answer that because he's not technical. I have to contact Ray for that question.
to me it is more practical to have it repaired by the distributor at no cost instead of anybody else. remember, you bought the unit with one year warranty, fight for it and forget the conditional ek-ek warranty >:(. it's their job to fix the problem within the warranty period.
problem is they don't even know what to repair and they are even charging mYKi 5K. :P
mYKi, without a doubt, you are :) i think you're problem is w/ your dealer. baka kasi sobrang hirap para sa kanila ang magdala nung defective unit mo sa distributor.
anyway, just to add, nde rin maganda experience ko w/ sights and sound. the one in park square nga lang.
hope you get your player working again. im eyeing for one myself. pro kung ganyan rin lang, talagang mapapadalawang isip ako.
So I asked for the number of Studio Systems... the importer of NAD. I'm hoping that I can get more service there. So I called them up, and when I told them my predicament, they told me that they can't honor the WARRANTY because of MISUSE.
So I asked what MISUSE? They told me that I made heavy use of CD-R on the player. WHAT!? Yes, I do play CD-R's but only backups of the originals that I have. They even told me that it was because these International companies wanted to shun piracy. I didn't even ask how they came out with the conclusion that CD-Rs destroyed my almost new unit. Did it have a counter inside?
I told them I didn't have pirated CDs! And now they say maybe I used inferior CD-Rs which I buy from CD-R King. Well, I do use Benq CD-Rs from CD-R King but as I have said, I only have a few CD-R backups and I mostly use it for my car.
So how did our conversation end?
I will have to wait 4 weeks for a PART that they were not even sure if it is ON STOCK, and when that PART comes, then I will have to pay P5,000 for it.
The silver-lining? Well, Redkoji said that if they can get the part lower than the price they are expecting, then they will give me a discount on it. Since I bought my 2 cd players and B&W speakers from Sights and Sounds, they said they will give me a brand new unit, and I will just have to pay them the P5,000. Gee... thanks!
::) :-X:P
just one of the major reasons why i never got a nad player. >:D
btw, when making purchases, especially on electronic equipment, i always consider aftersales support and store reputation. ;)
mYKi, is your unit still with them? Pull-out mo nalang sa kanila, chances are hindi rin tama yung pagka-diagnose nila sa player mo. If I were in your shoes, since I'll end up spending either way, I'll just bring the unit to either hyperaudio or JojoD818. O di kaya kay Master Garp(plugging ba preng Garp ;D ). Definitely you'll end-up with very minimal costs for repairs and reliable pa sila. :)
ha ha naku baka mas lalong masira yan. Myki, parehong channels ba wala sa analog? Sana wag sira yung dac mo kasi alam ko yung pcm1732 phased out na. Ni wala na siya sa TI.com website eh. good luck na lang.
bumblebee, based on his previous posts, i think mYKi is not just having problems with the dealer but also with the distributor. He's being charge for something which should be covered by the warranty.
ha ha naku baka mas lalong masira yan. Myki, parehong channels ba wala sa analog? Sana wag sira yung dac mo kasi alam ko yung pcm1732 phased out na. Ni wala na siya sa TI.com website eh. good luck na lang.
thanks for the clarification sir kimpao :) kainis. balak ko pa naman kumuha ng nad cd player >:(
sir Garp, by that you mean there's lesser risks for non-hdcd players? kasi mas madali maka-acquire ng replacement parts? many thanks :)
bumblebee,
I think what Garp meant was hindi "daw" siya magaling (kuning-kuning, eh kung amp nga eh pinagaganda niyan ang tunog cdp pa kaya). It's really not lesser risk but the parts itself are no longer in stock and being produced by the manufacturer as these were already replaced by newer models. Obsolence ika nga nila. :)
garp,
chief, ano ba bago nating project? ;D ;D
NAD is a good player, but the retailer/distributor sucks.
O0
Guys,
Studio Systems (distributor) and Sights and Sounds (dealer) talked and they decided to just charge me P4,500. Deep inside, I still feel cheated. If this happened in the US, wala ng tanong-tanong. They will definitely honor the warranty.
So... I will just pay the P4,500. Enjoy my music. And learn from this experience. 1 month without music is toooo long for me.
Guys,
Studio Systems (distributor) and Sights and Sounds (dealer) talked and they decided to just charge me P4,500. Deep inside, I still feel cheated. If this happened in the US, wala ng tanong-tanong. They will definitely honor the warranty.
So... I will just pay the P4,500. Enjoy my music. And learn from this experience. 1 month without music is toooo long for me.
So in summary:
I still LOVE the sound of the NAD C542 and it's still the best for my ears and budget.
I HATE the after sales service of the dealer and the distributor.
By the way, I have elevated my concern to the regional office of NAD but I still haven't gotten any feedback yet.
Thanks so much for everyone's concern.
what will they do with your defective unit? ::) :o >:D
Guys,
Studio Systems (distributor) and Sights and Sounds (dealer) talked and they decided to just charge me P4,500. Deep inside, I still feel cheated. If this happened in the US, wala ng tanong-tanong. They will definitely honor the warranty.
So... I will just pay the P4,500. Enjoy my music. And learn from this experience. 1 month without music is toooo long for me.
So in summary:
I still LOVE the sound of the NAD C542 and it's still the best for my ears and budget.
I HATE the after sales service of the dealer and the distributor.
By the way, I have elevated my concern to the regional office of NAD but I still haven't gotten any feedback yet.
Thanks so much for everyone's concern.
glad to hear you got a new unit. still i don't like the way they handled your problem(abuse BS) and it really sucks that you had to pay for something that should have been covered. i for one am swearing off NAD products(except maybe 2nd hand ;D) from now on. Score one for Rotel!
OT: anyone knows how Rotel handles their warranties?
glad to hear you got a new unit. still i don't like the way they handled your problem(abuse BS) and it really sucks that you had to pay for something that should have been covered. i for one am swearing off NAD products(except maybe 2nd hand ;D) from now on. Score one for Rotel!
OT: anyone knows how Rotel handles their warranties?
had a 971 before, never encountered any problems. have a 1072 right now, purchased this last july 2004, neve encountered any problems, yun nga lang nilalampaso siya ng husto nung GR1 Turntable ko sa sound. :'( ;D ;D
I've been postponing getting a new CD player since last christmas as new higher priorites come in. A blessing of sorts. The C542 has been my choice. And now I am less interested in getting one after this episode, especially not from those dealers mentioned. I would hate a repeat of a similar episode with my speakers.
Just recently visited Architectural Audio and saw their Usher CD player. Excellent looks and build, though I haven't auditioned them yet. Same price and country of manufacture as NAD. The brand is relatively new to the High-end audio business, so their products are trying to make a name. I will definitely put this brand in my list and strike out NAD. And based on the excellent after sales feedback from some members here, I think Archi gives a more customer-friendly acknowlegement of warranties.
Those local NAD dealers may have gained P4,500 form myKi. But they've lost a potential 19T sale from me. Any dealer who makes mincemeats out of an expressed warranty, alleging a customer doesn't know any better than to misuse its product, doesn't deserve patronage.
there's so much bruhaha about this product with you guys claiming NAD as an inferior product. well, from my experience, since i was the first guy to have owned the NAD C542 in the Philippines (mine was delivered first than that of aeris30) i can say that the NAD C542 is one of the sturdiest player that i have tried. if your player can play CDs for 12 straight hours on a random play without skipping or failing then you can beat the hell out of this player. i'm willing to bet my player on this torture test provided your player is equally priced as mine. if your player conks out first, then i'll get your player... if mine conks out first, then you can have mine.... >:D
is NAD made in taiwan too?
like some people say, good things come to those who wait.(to a point anyway) what happened to your speakers btw?
is NAD made in taiwan too? i like the way their speakers sound especially considering the size...only time will tell how popular they become. looks promising though. hope to audition the cd player someday.
likewise, i was aiming for the C352 to complement my player but seeing how they treat their customers, i decided to get a second hand unit(albeit an older model). they won't honor their warranty anyway so why bother getting brand new? sure hope the distributors of other brands do learn from this one.
in a nutshell : "there will always be a lemon every once in a while". sa kamalasan na tyempohan lang ni mYKi yung lemon. :-\
A 1-2 year old preowned Rotel CD player is another option. Nice thing about these preowned expensive stuff is that ,in general, they are well taken cared of by their owners. Neither abused nor misused, virutually maintaining their pristine conditions. Ofcourse there are exceptions.
if i had encountered the same problem as mYki, i would have gone to the NCR of DTI and filed a complaint against the dealer and the distributor to enforce my rights under the Consumer Code of the Philippines. with a leverage complaint on their face, i'm sure they will immediately replace the unit instead of hiring a lawyer to defend their cause which would be more costly to them. remember, filing a complaint with the DTI doesn't cost a penny - a letter-complaint with attachment of a photocopy of the receipt will do. ;)
if i had encountered the same problem as mYki, i would have gone to the NCR of DTI and filed a complaint against the dealer and the distributor to enforce my rights under the Consumer Code of the Philippines. with a leverage complaint on their face, i'm sure they will immediately replace the unit instead of hiring a lawyer to defend their cause which would be more costly to them. remember, filing a complaint with the DTI doesn't cost a penny - a letter-complaint with attachment of a photocopy of the receipt will do. ;)
i plan to get a cd player. but your LIMITED warranty is limiting me. will it be possible for you to post how can one MISUSE a cd player?
Na...forget it. I guess those distributors just carry gears too appealing for PinoyDVDers to boycott. Warning others will hardly matter. It's the attitudes of these vendors that should change. Nothing but a boycott will make them realize their folly. But that's too much to ask. The next time someone airs a similar plaint, i'll just shrug my shoulders. Afterall, it's passive consumers that allow such vendors to laugh all the way to the bank at our expense.
In the used of CD-R's and CD-RW as misuse?
There is such as thing called international standard in the manufacturing of CD-R, CD-RW and DVD-R.
However with the influx of Generic CD's and DVD's quality problems occur.
At NAD, CD-R or CD-RW which follows international standard will be played easily...however we cannot guarranty if that will be the case on generic CD-R and CD-RW....this will fall as misuse caused by Cd-R and CD-RW
.
In the used of CD-R's and CD-RW as misuse?
There is such as thing called international standard in the manufacturing of CD-R, CD-RW and DVD-R.
However with the influx of Generic CD's and DVD's quality problems occur.
At NAD, CD-R or CD-RW which follows international standard will be played easily...however we cannot guarranty if that will be the case on generic CD-R and CD-RW....this will fall as misuse caused by Cd-R and CD-RW
.
Sir, I'd like to let you know that I'm using this kind of CD-R's and CD-RW with my Pioneer DVD player. It's not even a CD player, I'm using it almost 2 to 3 hours a day for more than 2 years with this kind of CD's and I have'nt had any problems.
If a NAD CD player cannot do this I think your product is inferior as compared to my Pioneer, at least in the durability issue. Your NAD may sound good, but how long it will last (6 months - too short) I'd rather look for other brands. By the way my Pioneer is only 1/3 of the price of your CD player.
sir redkoji let's stick to the case of sir myki. may we ask for an expalnation why it was not covered by your so called "LIMITED WARRANTY". From my reading, I believed there was no misused, abused or tamperring of the product. Maybe you should change the title to NAD "VERY LIMITED WARRANTY".
Dear Jcob,
If the user said that he has not misused, abused or tampered the product, then theres no problem we shall honor the warranty. However, the case of his unit is not yet final and the charged of P4,500.00 is subject to changes depending our request to NAD itself. Moreover, we clearly inform him that this is rough estimate since NAD doesn't have standard pricing issued for every parts in their products. So far we have not yet received a reply for such item. In the meantime, we have provided a brand new unit for him to used, since we don't have a similar model being displayed for our disposal.
As per policy of NAD or most manufacturer in the US, if the product has inherent defect it shall show within 90 days from purchased and immediate replacement maybe done, after initial pre-evaluation.
The so called "Very limited warranty" is the same policy being carried by any mass market brand here in the Philippines....Just like to ask if any distributor here have provided service unit at the distributors expense?
In the used of CD-R's and CD-RW as misuse?
There is such as thing called international standard in the manufacturing of CD-R, CD-RW and DVD-R.
However with the influx of Generic CD's and DVD's quality problems occur.
At NAD, CD-R or CD-RW which follows international standard will be played easily...however we cannot guarranty if that will be the case on generic CD-R and CD-RW....this will fall as misuse caused by Cd-R and CD-RW
.
....Just like to ask if any distributor here have provided service unit at the distributors expense?
What is Limited Warranty of NAD products
Studio System's brand being carried such as NAD has 1 year warranty as against labor and parts. However, this does not extend to any damaged or defects resulting to misuse, tampering, neglect or abuse and other natural causes ( Example : The unit was infested by insects or it has been soak by water due to poor rain water drainage of house or the area has been flooded )
All units that will be claiming warranty are subject to pre-evaluation to determine the cause of such defect or damage. As per experience, there are a lot of cases that the items that have been tampered by the customer or have been subject to misused. If that will be the case then the warranty is voided. Yes if sa US po nangyari such incedent, walang tanong tanong and they will replaced it immediately. This is the same reason why this stuff are more expensive in the US or even Australia. Distributors or Manufacturer are passing on the expenses of such irresponsible claiming of warranty to customer without them knowing that.
We also ask some questions to determine the extent of the damage was caused by the customer itself or inherent defect.
As to being responsible distributor, we are trying to follow the international standard of customer service. However there are cases that we cannot do so because situation here in the Philippines are not as the same as in other countries.
Like in the case of the T-752, "BUG" in the operating system, all of its buyers have been properly treated. There are buyers which opted the have the problematic chip be replaced and we have done it without any charged. There are some who opted for a refund and we did just that.
And there are some who opted to upgrade to higher model and we also honor such incident. Unlike MASS MARKET BRANDS, we do not stock parts since this will add on the cost of operation, which will be later pass-on to consumer. Mass Market brands minimally pass this to consumer because of the scale or quantity they are selling here in our Country. We wish it will be the same for NAD, but its not.
In the CD Player case, the charges of P4,500.00 is not yet final since we have not yet received the costing from NAD. The result of this is pending depending on NAD action to our request. There are times that we waved our expenses or just charged the duties imposed by the government.
i can't see how generic cdr's can damage a cd player. either the player reads it or not. that's it.
I still think that the relevant question to the dealer is " Will playing generic cd-rs be able to destroy a cd player's DAC?".
We shall also be publishing the effects on non standard CD-R and CD-RW in future post.
As for the finality of the damaged CD player in question, we shall post its results in this web site, in layman's term....Moreover, we have not collected a single centavo from the user.....
I still think that the relevant question to the dealer is " Will playing generic cd-rs be able to destroy a cd player's DAC?".
shoot out na to ng mga standard cdr and non standard cdr....
And I hope you understand our point that we want exceptional service like that in the U.S. for exceptional name brands like NAD.
As for the new models it is less than 0.06% of our total unit sold, have come back to us for any repair.
The warranty given is based on the date of Invoice that dealer have given you, not on the date we have sold the unit to the dealers.
As to having a brand new unit be given to you temporarily while you are waiting to have your unit be repaired, it is Mr. Ronald of Studio Systems that instructed Sight & Sounds.
That decision, was reached even if Studio has not yet received your unit. As for the conversation with you and Mr. Ronald, there was wrong information that was sent to him. This is the reason, when you ask him that about no audio out on the analog, he told you, that technical part will be answered by his technical staff. As for the payment you have given to Sight & Sounds, we will persuade them to return the payment.
As for our after-sales service, we are continuing our efforts to improved it. We acknowledged that is still far from what we have conceptualized under NAD. Others might think that we are just merely considering in keeping to cost low, but our overall objective is far more than that. The benefit for our customer might not be obvious for now, but its realization will be sooner.
So far I have not encountered any reputable white paper or technical write-up that claims they do. I have no idea what is meant by standard and non-standard CD-Rs and RWs. ALL CD-Rs, CD-RWs and CD-ROMs, whether generic or branded, conform to the Philips/Sony Yellow Book. If not, they will not record. And if they can't record, they will not play. And the player will simply reject them, any player.
Admittedly there are CD-Rs that will play on one machine but not on others. That's more a function of the laser's power ability to read certain dyes in CD-Rs.
i agree with myKi... this topic is becoming an eyesore... sagwa nang basahin eh, besides Myki had let this slipped a couple of pages ago... it seems that there are posters here who trivialize the matter too much. guys (specially the mods) let's put an end to this thread this isn't going anywhere -- o ang makisawsaw pa dito KSP na.
peace out. ;D
Natatakot :-[ na tuloy ako gamitin NAD C542 ko which I bought last December.
I would like to share my experience with my Pioneer dvd player. It also carried 1 year warranty, and 10 DAYS (Nad guys, pls. read) BEFORE THE WARRANTY EXPIRED, it broke down. The unit wouldnt turn ON (I knew it was my fault because I forgot to unplug the unit for 2 DAYS). But nevertheless, I immediately brought it to the Pioneer service center in Buendia. After 7 DAYS the unit was repaired. They even showed me the NEW POWER SUPPLY UNIT (they replaced the whole power supply circuit board rather than repair it.) that they installed BEFORE THEY CLOSED AND SEALED THE UNIT. I WAS NEVER CHARGED A SINGLE CENTAVO. That was 2 years ago and my player is still OK. NAD GUYS, KAYA NYO BA 'YON? >:(
We do welcome any complains being address here and we don't think its an eyesore.
You may all know that most of the brands we carried here in the Philippines has no prioir distributor. Some of them went here to investigate our capability in taking care of their brand. We believe they are satisfied that we are capable in doing so.
There are some misgivings in our operation, however its not the rule.
All points taken. Pls stick to the topic. This is my 2nd Warning!
Is is possible to split the topic? Retain all NAD CD player concerns then gather all NAD after sales support feedbacks and make another topic?
GREAT NEWS! :)
Studio Systems has sent me a PM that they have asked Sights and Sounds to return the P4,500 that they got from me. Studio Systems has coordinated with NAD International and they decided to replace my defective unit for free. Yes, I agree that it took a rather long time for the decision but as they say... better late than never!
Thank you PinoyDVD guys for backing my position that we consumers deserve good after-sales service. I'm sure we will all benefit from this exercise.
Thank you Ronald from Studio Systems for acting on my case. What I experienced was surely a big hassle but I hope that this incident will only improve your service so other NAD fans can be treated better in the future. My faith in your company and NAD has been restored. I accept your sincere apologies for the troubles.
Thank you Mr. John Tan, NAD Sales Manager, for responding to my e-mails and addressing my concerns.
Thank you NAD engineers for creating the C542. I loved the sweet sound of this baby the first time I heard it, bought it, and I still love the sound after my heartbreak and reunion with it. I guess it's also a bit fun breaking-in this player once again.
Sights and Sounds, I will never buy from you again. >:(
GREAT NEWS! :)
Studio Systems has sent me a PM that they have asked Sights and Sounds to return the P4,500 that they got from me. Studio Systems has coordinated with NAD International and they decided to replace my defective unit for free. Yes, I agree that it took a rather long time for the decision but as they say... better late than never!
GREAT NEWS! :)
Studio Systems has sent me a PM that they have asked Sights and Sounds to return the P4,500 that they got from me. Studio Systems has coordinated with NAD International and they decided to replace my defective unit for free. Yes, I agree that it took a rather long time for the decision but as they say... better late than never!
Thank you PinoyDVD guys for backing my position that we consumers deserve good after-sales service. I'm sure we will all benefit from this exercise.
if reviews are to be trusted, the c542 comes very close w/ the arcam cd73t. we're lucky the NADs here are priced much lower relative to their srps (many thanks to studio systems for this) compared to other brands. this is really a good buy, if not the best buy :)
just me :)
nahhhh iba talaga msrp ng nad products sa asia as confirmed by lenbrook singapore... studio systems had nuthin to do with the low price
Not if the brand's home office has anything to say on it. They do their market research more thoroughly than a mere distributor. They wouldn't want their products to be priced out of any market they enter into, just because the local distributor wants to make more profits.
about the cd player...wish NAD would make the power cord detachable in future models. sabi kasi sakin ng audio friend ko malaki daw difference ang pag-upgrade ng powercord lalo na sa cd player.
nagulat ako sa presyo! mayroong mas mahal pa sa cd player >:(
if reviews are to be trusted, the c542 comes very close w/ the arcam cd73t. we're lucky the NADs here are priced much lower relative to their srps (many thanks to studio systems for this) compared to other brands. this is really a good buy, if not the best buy :)
"I honestly like also the C542. I have heard it perform on SS and Tube amps, and on both occasions it was amazing.
Naging daring lang ako kaya ako kumuha ng CD73T, hehehe. Gusto ko kasi makarining din ng Arcam.
So far assessment ko, mas sweeter and vocals ng C542, instrument wise both CD73T and C542 have very good details. Mas lamang lang nga sa pagka laidback and Arcam, ang layo talaga from behind. And probably the effect of this is that mas lumlaki yung impression ng soundstage. Mas heavier ang bass ng C542, mas tighter naman ang sa CD73T. "
even with the "recent" issue with the NAD retailer, I still got a C542 a while ago, :) im still enjoying my music...hehee ;D
my cdp's on my to buy list were:
cambridge 340c
nad c521bee
the HDCD capability(and my hdcd softwares) of the c542 made a big factor.
I understand that the unit is no longer covered by a warranty. But I feel that it is only reasonable for a customer to expect that the lens of the cd player should last longer than 19 months. I may be wrong.
so i guess it's safe to say that lenses - even from NAD should last more than 19 months :)
bad trip lang problema mo - brand new pa naman nabili! >:(
It's a difficult situation whenever the CD lens is the problem. You can bring your CD player to a repair shop maybe it's still possible restore the CD lens (assuming it is still giving light). Baka kasi iyung tracking o focus lang may problema. Tini-trim lang kasi iyun. Kung lens talaga ... tsk ... tsk ... tsk ...
sorry to hear about your problem. btw any warning signs before it stopped reading cds? i myself got a NAD C542 for almost a year now and it still plays and sounds great.
Thank for the info! nope, no warning signs at all. Just stopped playing one time. I figured it was the cd. Around two weeks after, I tried to play a disc and it stopped. It showed signs of life a few days later when I tried to use it again but it was only good for half a song... :'( I'm glad for you. I hope your unit performs better than mine. :-\
good day sir, its me again, just have a few questions
1. would a regular cd player be able to play an hdcd format cd?
(im asking this because my teac dvd player can read a cd-r i bought
which is a copy of an hdcd)
2. if an hdcd disc is to be copied into a cd-rewritable disc, would
the copied cd-r still sound like the original hdcd
(im asking this because the cd-r i bought was detected by my teac dvd
player to be an hdcd, when in fact its just a cd-r}
3. is the nad c542 a good hdcd, or are there other hdcd players in the price
range, or should i just purchase the c521 bee?
Yes. But you won't hear the extra 4 bits of data.
Yes.
The C542 is the cheapest HDCD player from a known brand available locally (pls tell me I'm wrong). There aren't that many HDCD's around.
I hope this is not OT but I brought my defective CD player (NAD 521BEE) to Studio Systems, distributor of NAD products in the Philippines on 29 October 2005.
The unit was accepted and a lady named Sherry promised to call me on Nov. 2, the next working day.
I have provided her with my contact numbers and she was able to reply to me only yesterday, 8 November.
They are charging me P3000 to replace the lens of my CD player, a CD player which, and I this I have to stress, was only used sparingly during its useful life.
I have only been using the CD player for approximately 19 months. It appears these units are inherently defective as I noticed that there were around three other units (of NAD 321BEE) with the same problem. Sherry even acknowledged that it was a common complaint with this CD player model.
The CD player has refused to play any audio discs and shows a "no disc" display. The unit was bought from Spectra last March 2004.
I understand that the unit is no longer covered by a warranty. But I feel that it is only reasonable for a customer to expect that the lens of the cd player should last longer than 19 months. I may be wrong.
The NAD Customer Service Center, which can be accessed online, has not replied to any of my concerns. I placed a comment on the NAD guestbook but it was quickly brought down by the webmaster.
Is this a fact of life that we have to face?
As for other matters you mentioned we would like to clarify the following :
*Lens life - under proper usage and maintenance, the lens of NAD equipment should last more than 5 years. If such equipment has a factory defect, it will show sign within 90 days.
*Inherent defect of the C521 BEE - I believe Ms. Cherry was misquoted on this issue. Yes there was 3 other units of the same model during your visit for repair. One for realignment, one for cleaning and the other one for replacement of lens. Her real intention in that statement, if your complaint was displaying "No Disc" or would not play, generally the lens is the suspected problem.
The implication of that statement is that assuming the lens of the NAD cd player lasts for less than 5 years, and showed no signs of malfunction/defect during the first 90 days of use, then the only conclusion you can come up with is that the owner used it improperly? Or that the unit was not properly maintained?
i wonder how a person can deliberately abuse his CD player? or why anyone who would save up for a decent one would knowingly abuse his player? ???
I have a nad c521bee. I used to tweak this a lot and I think I took the chassis cover off at least a dozen times. I've removed the entire pcb at least 6 times. At some point I started to get a "no disc" display. There are two reasons for this in my case. One is that the disc is not properly aligned in the tray. The other is when the ribbon cable gets loose. The ribbon cable is the white laminted plastic cable that's about 3/4 inch connected between the pcb and the cd transport. If this gets misaligned or dirty as in my case I get a "no disc" display.
The implication of that statement is that assuming the lens of the NAD cd player lasts for less than 5 years, and showed no signs of malfunction/defect during the first 90 days of use, then the only conclusion you can come up with is that the owner used it improperly? Or that the unit was not properly maintained?
Are you therefore saying it would be impossible for the lens to malfunction during the first five years?
In which case, shouldn't your warranty for the lens be good for 5 years? Considering that your so willing to stand by the quality of your products? At any rate, the standard warranty already excludes improper use of the product by the owner, doesn't it? So no additional assumption of risk on your part.
I believe it was you who misquoted what I said. I was the one who said that "it appears that these units are inherently defective as I noticed that there were around three other units xxx with the same problem."
I then went on to say, "Sherry even acknowledged that it was a common complaint with this CD player model." Meaning, that the "no disc" problem is common to the NAD 521 BEE, not that the CD player was "inherently defective." My complaint, when I brought the unit to your office, was that it would not play CDs, not that it was "inherently defective." Therefore, when I refer to "common complaints", I would be referring to what I observed, which was the failure of the CD player to play CDs.
I'd imagine since the 3 other units were for (1) realignment, (2) cleaning and (3) replacement of lens, all of them do not play CDs as well. Which probably makes my earlier statement fairly accurate.
You know I was already willing to let this one go and chalk it up to experience, except that an apology, by itself, and without qualification (even via PM), would have been better. I noticed Ronald, from your post and your earlier posts, that you may need to improve the way you handle these things.
I had a NAD C521i before and i abused it one time by playing CDs into it for 14 hours non stop. it didn't falter a bit and the only reason i sold it was to get myself the newer NAD C542. i was the first one to own this model (together with Aeris 30) here in the Philippines. we acquired our unit March 12, 2004 and had it one time playing for 12 hours straight and it never faltered. mine is my primary source and i had been abusing it for over a year now or over 21 months and it never conks out on me nor have i seen that "No Disc" display.
the NADs are perhaps the sturdiest player one can have and my bet still stands. read my previous posts on this thread and you know what i mean!! ;)
Any update on this concern. ??? ??? ???
Hate to bring this up. My NAD 521BEE cdp just stop playing >:( >:( >:(. Similar to others, mine is also bought new, it's more than a year old but less than 2 year.
Just yesterday my 521bee cdp's tray will not open anymore ??? ???, although it exhibited having power it does not complete the tray open command whether done by remote control or by pressing the open/close button in the unit itself.
This is very bad as this is Christmas time. I was hoping to spend the whole day listening to my fav cds but it seems i'll be without music for an extended period as I will have to get my unit repaired first. :-[ :-[ :-[
dr. jekyll bro kindly post whether your unit was repaired by whom and how.
TIAA Merry Christmas to all
Zephyr,
Considering that Studio wanted to charge me 3K to replace the lens, I thought I had nothing to lose bringing it somewhere else. I brought it to a repair shop near our place and they fixed it for approx. 1K without replacing the lens. They told me that the lens was apparently misaligned. PM'd you the name of the shop.
Hope you'll be able to resolve your problem soon.
Happy holidays!
Any update on this concern. ??? ??? ???
Hate to bring this up. My NAD 521BEE cdp just stop playing >:( >:( >:(. Similar to others, mine is also bought new, it's more than a year old but less than 2 year.
Just yesterday my 521bee cdp's tray will not open anymore ??? ???, although it exhibited having power it does not complete the tray open command whether done by remote control or by pressing the open/close button in the unit itself.
This is very bad as this is Christmas time. I was hoping to spend the whole day listening to my fav cds but it seems i'll be without music for an extended period as I will have to get my unit repaired first. :-[ :-[ :-[
dr. jekyll bro kindly post whether your unit was repaired by whom and how.
TIAA Merry Christmas to all
Welcome to this forum.
So we have another complaint about the C542. Hope in your case that Studio Systems has learned some lessons from the flak it got handling previous complaints. And do what's good for the customer this time around. Good luck.
hi all, I am not a NAD owner but my British boss is... he knows that I'm into HT so he asked me if I could help him out with his CDP which wasn't working... I went to his place and saw his unit was a NAD 542... when a CD was loaded, the tray made a whirring sound when retracting then "no disc" would appear... He mentioned that the unit was about 6 months old BUT it's been busted for the past 5 months! AND it was already a replacement unit... the first unit he got became defective after a week of use (problem was "no disc" also) so he returned it and the dealer replaced it right away... this second unit became defective after a month of use -- he admits to being a heavy CD listener as he has thousands of CDs... but even then...
Here's the back story of his problem... when his current (second) unit became defective, he brought it back to the dealer for repairs... they contacted him a few days later and said repairs would cost upwards of 8k saying that the lens was busted along with other parts... he refused to pay and demanded that they fix it either for free or he will just pay for labor but he will absolutely not pay for any parts... He referred to his warranty to justify his request & the fact that it was only a month old...
Here's the bomb... the dealer said that he has no warranty because the receipt he presented was for a different unit! :o :o The receipt and warranty he held was for the FIRST unit he got... meaning what was on paper was the serial number of the first unit... he was not given a new receipt or warranty card for the second replacement and it did not occur to him to ask for a new one... when he went ballistic, the dealer said that they were only relaying what the distributor/service center told them AND apparently the dealer also developed amnesia about my boss's purchase history with them... :o :o :o So, he refused to pay anything and pulled out the unit thus it has remained unrepaired.. He's been using a Bose system ever since for his CD listening sessions (a very nice Bose system also just don't know what model)
The help that he wanted was for me to bring the unit to a reputable place which can fix it for him at a reasonable price... He's leaving for Hong Kong permanently already by mid February and he wants to have it fixed here before he flies... he said that it may be more expensive to have it fixed in HK
Can anyone refer a place?? TIA...
By the way... he forgot the name of the audio shop where he got the CDP, he just remembers that it's located at Festival Mall... ::) ::) hmmm...
Hello guys,
This is my first post, so pls bear with me. For many years, I'd been watching and listening to everyone giving his ideas in this particular table, and as I sit here, I can no longer contain my silence, when I also experience the same problem with my NAD C542 I bought 5 months ago. ;)
The problem started after a month of my purchase when I put my disc on the tray and the player displayed "no disc". Sometimes, the player had a hard time recognizing the disc. This happened early in the morning or after the player is not used for a long time. I thought then, it must be the player sensitive lens and keep it for many months since it is not easy for me to transport my unit in manila while I am in Cebu.
Lately, the problem is already alarming, when it won't play any kind of disc--cd or cdrl. And when a disc is ejected, you can see the disc still spinning while the tray is opening. Then it recovers after an hour, so I decided to contact Studio systems and have it transported to them last week.
I'm now worried after reading some of the members here who have encountered problem with studio systems for the warranty. I bought mine at Premier sights and sound at shangrila and was directed to studio systems.
At the time I was looking for a cd player, I was warned by a dealer in Cebu (not a NAD dealer) not to get NAD 542 because of its inherent defect on the lens. But I still insisted to get it.
AS of this writing, I still don't have feedback from SS. I just hope everything will be in order.
Thanks and more power to this forum.
He should have emailed the headoffice of NAD to sound off this obvious customer mishandling. If I got it right, the dealer replaced a defective unit with another defective unit and would no longer replace that because the replacement's serial numbers no longer conformed with what is contained in the warranty. OFcourse, my goodness, pinalitan na eh. The dealer should have made the proper adjustments with the warranty. The customer is not expected to be aware of this.
bai juvinyl, welcome to pinoydvd, i think i know you very well, hehehe ;D ;D ;D.......sorry to hear that your NAD broke down, how's your B&W 705, fully broken in na ba 8)
Hi juvinyl,
Maybe Sights and Sounds Shangri-La re-sold you the player that I returned to them. I should have listed down the serial number.
Myki
Classicman,
You sound familiar, lemme think, I see...now I know..yeah, you're the one...hehe. Yes, my 705 sounds amazing. Although its not yet fully broken in. How's your new babies? your cdm se? pls post your review also. thanks and regards.
Anyway, thank you guys for your guidance and insights. BTW, I just contacted studio systems yesterday and my unit is already ready for shipment. They said, they replaced the lens. I just hope its true, coz I wouldn't know. I just can't wait for the day of my NAD reunion and play back my cds.
ei juvinyl,Taggart,
after reading your post, any of the following might have happened...
a. unit was repaired but was damaged in transit
:(
My 3-month old C542 also occasionally (maybe 2x a month) gives the "no disc" display even if I have just loaded a CD...reinserting the CD usually solves the problem...Hope it doesnt get worse.....
Hi NAD users,
This is a continuation to my first post regarding my problem with my NAD c542 cd player. I got it back last February 8, 2006. You know what? I'm here in Cebu and Studio Systems didn't charge me of the freight cost from Cebu to Manila and V.V. Excellent customer service experience!?.
Now you're thinking that I happy at last, but, NO! The problem still persists!!!! I contacted SS systems and asked if they have done the replacement of the lens (which they told me) and confirmed they did. So, I told them what to do with the defective unit but can't give comment. I was adviced to contact my store and in doing so, they (the store) told me that it is the dealer's responsibility. They are throwing their own "s****t". I was also told to lodge my complaint directly to the website, but when I did, as if, there's no way to post your feedback. I was redirected to the FAQ but nothing relevant to this problem. I also went to the warranty section and asked to fill up the forms to register but no password was sent to my email as stated after registering.
What happen to NAD? ARe they running away from their responsibility knowing that there will be tonnes of problems that would arise from their crap products?
Taggart,
It could be, because, they removed the transit screw and did not return it when transporting my player. I asked why they transport the player without the transport screw, and they said they can't locate the screw. They should have not done this, and they should have been the first to be concerned about that screw being the owner of the service. In fact, I told them, your manual says if you lost the transport screw then you must buy replacement. So you see, they don't even realize how important that part is.
Well, I learned that I am not the only unlucky NAD user out there. I'm afraid this will be the first and last unit of NAD.
Good day to everyone. Thanks.
Audioslave,
Iba na nagagawa ng "D50" ;D ;D ;D
Ganda ng NAD mo. (para di off topic)
eto NAD C542 ko... machong macho pa rin! di pa nasisira... ilalaban ko pa yan ng torture test, 12 hours continuous play... hehehe ;D
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When I had a problem with my NAD, she also e-mailed me. But within a few days, I got a brand new replacement unit without charge.
This is not the first I heard that bringing your problem directly to the Brand's overseas office or headoffice often nets more satisfying results than getting local support. Maybe that should be the first recourse everytime.
does anybody know where I can get a remote for a C520 model? even a used one will do.... TIAsir devo...try mo sony universal remote rm-v402. or yung remote para sa nad 505 (5cd carousel) (dati nagbenta ang deeco ng ganitong model na cdplayer)...i've used these remotes aside from the original c520 remote.
sir devo...try mo sony universal remote rm-v402. or yung remote para sa nad 505 (5cd carousel) (dati nagbenta ang deeco ng ganitong model na cdplayer)...i've used these remotes aside from the original c520 remote.tks chief.......... saan usually available yung Sony universal remote?
I doubt a CDR (nde yung physically sira) can damage a player. It's like saying you'll get your washing machine busted if you wash a fake Lacoste shirt in it.
tks chief.......... saan usually available yung Sony universal remote?SM appliance store and sony /avid shops
SM appliance store and sony /avid shopsthanks a lot
Hi guys,
I just got my NAD c542 last Wednesday and I am here again in order to neatly tie up both ends of the issue. So far, it works flawlessly as if it hadn't undergone any physical trauma of repair. I even notice an improved performance compared to the time when I acquired it. The reading response time is shorter today than before. The sounds is still amazing! Iba rin talaga ang NAD. 8)
I appreciate the "make-up" move of Studio Systems in the person of Redkoji (siya ba yong si Regie?). The box was shipped in wooden crates! I was also surprised as I opened it, the unit was being wrapped neatly with plastic air cushion, and plastic air cushion all around in between spaces. That was not the original wrapper when I bought it! 8). The lost transport screw was restored! :)
To all NAD and Studio Systems guys, I'm sorry for what I've written in this forum. I didn't mean to drag the company down, but pls understand that I was really upset with what happened. You know what is wrong with us, sometimes we like to confront people at the height of our anger. So that we can express exactly what our hearts desire and we feel good. We can't wait for tomorrow when you cool off.
I am thinking also that the time is still premature to make judgement, but I hope my unit will be fine. Allow me to retract my statement before that this is my last unit with NAD. No its not!. In fact, I'm still considering another NAD separates to complement my new system.
Thanks for reading.
Ha ha ;D True. I have yet to read a technical white paper that says fake CDs can damage the player.
But discs that develop lines of cracks can damage a player, though not entirely. I had an old (10 year old) genuine disc that developed lines on the label side over time. I thought it was nothing and was just showing signs of age.. I had played it recently but when I last played it on a Yamaha CD player, the disc just splintered into many pieces, scattering debris inside the player mechanism so that I could not eject it. I had to open the unit and pick up the shatterd disc pieces. For some reason, the lines were symptomatic of some internal tensions within the disc itself, the lines were actually fine cracks that developed over time, so that the high speed rotation from the player must have broke it to pieces. Good thing the player still lives.
Lesson: examine old discs before playing. Any obvious line or crack on its surface can spell trouble. If this had happened to a CD player under warranty, I am not sure how the dealer will treat this. Mind you this is genuine CD.
my only secret, i guess, is that i never played and will not play any pirated CDs nor CD-Rs into it. fair enough, right? if one can buy an expensive piece of equipment, why stoop down and scrimp on your softwares?
I doubt a CDR (nde yung physically sira) can damage a player. It's like saying you'll get your washing machine busted if you wash a fake Lacoste shirt in it.;) :)
Ha ha ;D True. I have yet to read a technical white paper that says fake CDs can damage the player.
But discs that develop lines of cracks can damage a player, though not entirely. I had an old (10 year old) genuine disc that developed lines on the label side over time. I thought it was nothing and was just showing signs of age.. I had played it recently but when I last played it on a Yamaha CD player, the disc just splintered into many pieces, scattering debris inside the player mechanism so that I could not eject it. I had to open the unit and pick up the shatterd disc pieces. For some reason, the lines were symptomatic of some internal tensions within the disc itself, the lines were actually fine cracks that developed over time, so that the high speed rotation from the player must have broke it to pieces. Good thing the player still lives.
Lesson: examine old discs before playing. Any obvious line or crack on its surface can spell trouble. If this had happened to a CD player under warranty, I am not sure how the dealer will treat this. Mind you this is genuine CD.
Lord Foo,
Here are the previous post re using CDs and CDRs. It's not an issue of cracked CDs but using CDR on a CDP.
??? ;) :)
;D ;D ;D. What an excellent posts. Well, I should say adios to the club as suggested by audioslave. ;D Thanks everyone. Bye.
I have a NAD 515 and it is already having problems... I don't seem to feel safe bringing it to Avid.. any other place good?
Hi I got a nad cd542 bought last september, it does not have a problem reading disc or cdr except when a melody cdr is being played it cannot detect the disc and displays no disc. anyone have same problem?, I also bought a preowned cd521i here in pdvd it reads the melody disc but it takes longer to detect it and sometimes it takes too long to find the track no.
also had a nad 505 carousel in the mid90s ang c520 (1998?). ganyan talaga nad, mejo mabagal read ng discs, just gotta live with it pero maganda naman tumunog-solid performer on the warm side yet detailed.
anybody knows the brandnew price of the 525bee?
also had a nad 505 carousel in the mid90s ang c520 (1998?). ganyan talaga nad, mejo mabagal read ng discs, just gotta live with it pero maganda naman tumunog-solid performer on the warm side yet detailed.
anybody knows the brandnew price of the 525bee?
last time nag tanong ako sa audioworld it's 13+++ try mo tumawag sa kanila look for jason or che
Yung nga nagtaka ako sa site ng local distributor ng nad dito eh ni logo ng nad wala silang representation kaya ako nagtanong sa nad int'l kung sino ba talaga.
Salamat sa recommendation yun din ang tinitingnan ko. Compara ko sa Rotel pero medyo mahal.
ive a question.
sulit ba ang P8.8K for a used nad c540 cdp?
thanks!
up lang. anyone who has already purchased a 525bee? planning to buy one to pair with my 325bee amp. may naka experience ba ng issues similar to the earlier posts regarding the 542? Thanks in advance. :)
up lang. anyone who has already purchased a 525bee? planning to buy one to pair with my 325bee amp. may naka experience ba ng issues similar to the earlier posts regarding the 542? Thanks in advance. :)
Just got the 525bee + 325bee combo and I personally feel it blends perfectly. The purity and clarity are very evident and instrumentals are just exquisitely churned out. One could actually feel the performance. The Burr-Brown Sigma-Delta 20 bit DAC is really working hard to deliver the most bang for your buck it seems.
My musical preference ranges from R&B to a Capella vocals, and I believe the 535 bee delivers attesting to its flexibility and dynamic range.
On aesthetics, I love the minimalist yet classy, solid-built feel to the chasis. The backlit display is likewise very sleek, not harsh to the eyes and very modern and good numeric graphics.
Of course the sonic delivery would still improve as I further break-in these units, but offhand, I feel these are very solid entry-level items into hi-fi. If you already have the 325, I would reco you get the 525 to complete the cast and make the combo really 'sing.'
Cheers! ;)
Congrats bro to your new toy!
Cheers! ;D
Just got the 525bee + 325bee combo and I personally feel it blends perfectly. The purity and clarity are very evident and instrumentals are just exquisitely churned out. One could actually feel the performance. The Burr-Brown Sigma-Delta 20 bit DAC is really working hard to deliver the most bang for your buck it seems.
My musical preference ranges from R&B to a Capella vocals, and I believe the 535 bee delivers attesting to its flexibility and dynamic range.
On aesthetics, I love the minimalist yet classy, solid-built feel to the chasis. The backlit display is likewise very sleek, not harsh to the eyes and very modern and good numeric graphics.
Of course the sonic delivery would still improve as I further break-in these units, but offhand, I feel these are very solid entry-level items into hi-fi. If you already have the 325, I would reco you get the 525 to complete the cast and make the combo really 'sing.'
Cheers! ;)
Hi! Everyone.
I need help regarding my NAD C521BEE, it cant read my cds anymore, it consistently displays "no disc". sometimes when i tilt the unit it reads on some discs.
i assume that theres something wrong with the lens either mis-aligned or madumi.
Where can i bring this for repairs? any recommended shops?
BTW I bought this around june 2006. (so no warranty na)
Thanks
Sir DoubleTapz,
You could bring your unit to our showroom:Hi-Fi + (Asia), Inc., Paragon Tower, #531 A. Flores St., Ermita, Manila. Tel. 526-5541 loc.215;D
Balak ko bumili ng 525BEE at 325BEE. Saan mura dito sa Metro Manila?
Hi,
Any model recommendation for NAD CD player? to be paired with tube amp.
thanks
sir, pwd c542 or c525bee. you may call us at 3743620.
Sir DoubleTapz,
You could bring your unit to our showroom:Hi-Fi + (Asia), Inc., Paragon Tower, #531 A. Flores St., Ermita, Manila. Tel. 526-5541 loc.215;D
NAD C545BEE now available, wathifi send me one for home audition. Thanks Amiel. Try ko this weekend.
NAD C545BEE now available, wathifi send me one for home audition. Thanks Amiel. Try ko this weekend.
NAD C545BEE now available, wathifi send me one for home audition. Thanks Amiel. Try ko this weekend.
ganicru, may I know from you the latest price of NAD C545BEE. Because its a good CD player according to some reviewers. Thank you.
NAD C545BEE now available, wathifi send me one for home audition. Thanks Amiel. Try ko this weekend.
Anyone who has an evaluation of the NAD 545? Please post your comments.
I am still trying to decide if I shoudl get the 315 or 545. Is the extra peso really worth it?
Salamat po.
quick question: c515bee or c525bee.
c515 looks more modern and also has quite good reviews online.
c525 has burr brown op amps all around.
difference of the two is P2k. is that worth it?
thanks!
thanks, sir. just wanna have a taste of a pure cd player and the 525bee really got good reviews and the reasonable price to boot!
thanks, sir. just wanna have a taste of a pure cd player and the 525bee really got good reviews and the reasonable price to boot!
You won't regret going for a dedicated CDP. :) Even great sounding DVDPs generally don't get close enough imho.
hi guys,
planning to purchase NAD integrated amp and CD player combo. here in cebu:
NAD C355 (integrated amp) - P31,000
NAD C545 (CD player) - P23,000
may i know the prevailing prices in manila?
thanks in advance guys.
jimmy
im planning to buy a cdp but im thinking if it will also sound good even if i just plug it into my receiver? :)
Hi guys. Im planning to get the 545bee cdp. Any feedbacks from actual users? Ive read some negatives issues kasi from other sites (ex.front button malfunctions,disc skipping etc.). Although meron din naman good reviews.
For me, yes. Even the chassis of the 525 looks meatier, although that might just be from its weight and relative size. But all things considered I'd still shell out the extra cash for the 525.
Hello followup guys,Try mong icontact sir si Nike180922-870-55-54(Nad Distrubutor) I think Ryan po ata name nya, Gudluck po :)
i need help, my NAD C521BEE does not read CDs anymore.
can you please point me where to have it repaired.
thanks
Hello followup guys,
i need help, my NAD C521BEE does not read CDs anymore.
can you please point me where to have it repaired.
thanks
The NAD 545 CDP is it still a good choice? Any known issues about this model? Any info would be appreciated tia! :)
Yes it is. The c565bee just happens to be a better choice imo, as it can also work as a standalone DAC if you so desire. Aside from this, you get customizeable filtering, selectable upsampling, and a nice skip dial.
The new c546bee that replaces the c545bee got some trickle down tech from the c565bee.
546 looks like a cool choice is it available locally? Otherwise 565 is the way to go pricey tho, thanks for the tip Sir :)
Guys, i'm using NAD c515BEE and very satisfied with performance. Unfortunately, the remote control is now faltering. There are some keys that don't work anymore. Can it still be repaired? If yes, saan po kaya pwede? Meron ba mabibilihan ng replacement remote control? Can you point me to a shop/store?
Try asking HiFi Plus kung replacement remote hanap mo, baka meron sila. It shouldn't cost too much since basic remote lang naman yung sa C515BEE. For repair, try mga celphone repair tech baka kaya nila.
Thanks bro for the info. BTW where can i find HiFi Plus? Baka may number ka? TIA ;)
I was browsing through the forum to look for a thread on NAD CD players, as I'm thinking of getting one in the future.
Stumbled into this thread, and from 2004 onwards (which is as far back as I backread), it's been mostly complaints about the NAD CD players not being able to play particular discs, or all discs for that matter, or really poor customer service. Whew. Might have to look at other brands.
Maybe the happy users of NAD CD players can post a bit more, or is there no such person? ;-)
I get asked this question a lot: "Does anyone still make great-sounding affordable CD players?" Sure, most of the major brands do, but only NAD currently offers a large slate of players starting with the $300 C 516BEE, and it's a honey.
Before we go any further I want to first clarify why I'm reviewing a CD player in 2013. Despite the naysayers the CD isn't "dead," far from it. Music lovers are still buying hundreds of millions of CDs every year. Download sales just barely surpassed sales of physical music (CDs, LPs, and so on) in 2012. So if you own a bunch of CDs and listen to them at home, investing in a decent CD player would be a wise move. The format may be old, but it uses 100 percent uncompressed (data), fully equal if not superior to FLAC or Apple Lossless files.
To the current owners of NAD CDP, what audio output do you use - analog or digital (coax/optical)?
I owned a NAD C 515BEE and never had a problem with it playing any disc from Original, burned and those being sold sa tabi tabi.. BInenta ko kasi i'm not using it much as im more into digital file than collecting CD's i only have about 14 CD in my collection and 10 of those are just burned copy.. No problems playing.. 4 of those CD's that i owned are original pero tirahan sya ng scratches.. again no problem playing those..
good morning.
i enjoyed my 515 for two years then after that, it became choosy. it displays "no disc" or "no data", i can't remember between the two.
I texted Rex the other day and he said matibay naman ang nad cdp and maganda ang after sales service ng distributor.
just sharing. :)
Ive had my NAD cdp (515) for almost 4 years now - and I must say that it is used (still being used) and ABUSED.
Choosy na sia and minsan, binubuksan ko na para I manual na Ikot ung cd tas play, then oks na sia. hehehe... :D
Same issues - No disc or disc error.
when it finally gives up - time for an upgrade :)
planning to get cd 546 pa naman :-\
Ako naman, emotiva....
If budget permits, line magnetic :)
na curious tuloy ako, iba ba talaga tunog pag medyo pricey? do you get what you pay for? :-\
In my experience....
For high ticket items - Sometimes yes, more often than not - NO.
After a certain price point (The bang for buck items), the law of diminishing returns start to apply. You have to pay premium for small increments of improvement.
In my exp, this thing starts at >30k peso mark.
Say for example the NAD c515bee. Is it good? Absolutely (for the price), is the 565bee twice as good because it's twice the price? it's definitely better but maybe not TWICE as good as the bang for buck 515bee.
OT - Comparing the Cayin cdp sa Nad - what are your thoughts on these sir?
Thanks :)
cayin cd50t and marantz cd6004 i have, SQ is the same, mas malakas lang bumuga yung marantz. srp ng cayin 30k while 6004 25k. yung 5k difference sa price not audible he he he he... ;D