Topic: NBA 2012-2013 Season

[mattia]

unfortunately, those are only regular games. it won't say much since Miami has another level when it comes to the playoffs.

Well until proven otherwise (Beat Miami) then Miami not needing a true center in today's NBA still stands sir.

Miami doesn't need a center because Lebron can play center if Spo wants him to.  That's the luxury of having Lebron in your team.  He can play all positions.

[Munskie]

Same thing, which I said OKC is no push over over the Lakers, they have answers to both.

While LA has no answer to...?  

Well you didnt even answered my question?  

Ok Howard is a 3time DPOY...so he's a defensive stud too.   Gasol is one of the most versatile big men in the game.  I wouldnt even consider them great.    But at the very least.

They are very good.

"Good sila na medyo great" i dont know man....smh.

[rexFi]

Bro, Lakers were also 2nd in the league in rebounding last year.   So rebounding wouldnt be an issue anyways. What Howard will bring is overall defensive impact.   Lakers were mediocre in PTS allowed last year, ranking 15th.

Orlando Magic, with its defense centered around Howard, were 7th last year.   And his teammates, individually, were not particularly noted for their defense.

 

Against Miami, rebounding is the only one that's an improvement to the Lakers. Miami/OKC can slice through any Defense as they are now built they still don't have an answer to Durant.

Anyway....its normal when fans of the defending Champions feel threatened.   Im into running and biking, when you are in the lead pack, its hard to maintain the lead, and you are always looking behind you.   Mas maganda pa just behind the lead pack and following lead pack's tail....drafting  

Who's threatened? Well me, as a fan I'm more threatened of Boston and OKC.

[Munskie]

 

Who's threatened? Well me, as a fan I'm more threatened of Boston and OKC.

Sorry but couldnt help it 

[ayosbathere]

 

Against Miami, rebounding is the only one that's an improvement to the Lakers. Miami/OKC can slice through any Defense as they are now built they still don't have an answer to Durant.

Who's threatened? Well me, as a fan I'm more threatened of Boston and OKC.

tama hindi nakakatakot ang LAL this coming season.. lalo na sa mga haters

[rexFi]

^ I dunno its already been established, or I thought I already established my self as a Boozer and Carmelo hater and not a Kobe/Lakers hater.



I'm just confident of Miami, how they are an Offensive/Defensive "nightmare" on other teams.

Well you didnt even answered my question? 

Ok Howard is a 3time DPOY...so he's a defensive stud too.   Gasol is one of the most versatile big men in the game.  I wouldnt even consider them great.    But at the very least.

They are very good.

"Good sila na medyo great" i dont know man....smh.

Ill be back sa season na lang.  Im done.....smh...

I said "same thing", great/good. Gasol is called "soft" by some people for a reason, and Dwight, well yeah "same thing" vs. Perkins Ring though he only made the "good sila na medyo great" rank for me.

[boredfilmmaker]

All that dissecting of the Lakers and the season's still over 2 months away. Yeah, no one's threatened by the Lakers.

[rexFi]

If there's news, the attention/dissecting will always be there.

Wala naman news sa Bobcats lately ah?

[warmaster]

unfortunately, those are only regular games. it won't say much since Miami has another level when it comes to the playoffs.

ang cocky naman ng attitude na yan. di na seseryosohin ang regular season dahil halimaw DAW sila sa playoffs?

Miami doesn't need a center because Lebron can play center if Spo wants him to.  That's the luxury of having Lebron in your team.  He can play all positions.

you sure he can play center against the likes of dwight howard? even oldies like KG and TD can give lebron nightmares if left to play one on one in the post.

sometimes people exaggerate into thinking that lebron is the God of basketball, isang title pa lang yan tsk tsk

[2fast2furious]

sometimes people exaggerate into thinking that lebron is the God of basketball, isang title pa lang yan tsk tsk

may parating pa kasi. 

[rexFi]

ang cocky naman ng attitude na yan. di na seseryosohin ang regular season dahil halimaw DAW sila sa playoffs?

Its not an attitude, its a Historical Fact sir pagdating sa Miami.

e.g. Bulls killed Miami sa Regular games sweep atan noon 2010-2011 season, then first game sa ECF Miami, lost, but then naSweep na ng Mia next games.

Saka di lang naman sa Miami, pati sa ibang teams, nagiiba chemistry pag sa Playoffs.
So regular games won't say much regarding sa match ups and team play (NA yun naman ang context sir ng usapan namin), but its entertainning and importante siyempre sa Standing.

[rukawakaide1721]

hindi rin siguro....

ang strategy na bawat team mapa regular season o mapa playoff man ay ganun parin....kasi every single ng regular NBA games ay importante sa bawat team para madetermine ang pagpasok ng playoff kung sino makakakuha ng homecourt advatages sa lahat ng playoff games....

ang match up ng bawat team siguro para sa akin ay bawat game hindi kada season or playoff...dahil bawat game magkakaiba ang scenario at laro ng bawat players....

may mga line-up na malalakas sa papel pero pagdating ng actual game naman hindi pala sila magkakatugma ng laro...even lakers now na kakatakutan mo sa papel.......

ang Miami ng magsama ang big 3, kangkungan dinampot....sa unang laro nila together...pero hindi natin puedeng sabihi ganun din kakaharapin ng lakers....kasi different scenario naman sila ngayun....

puedeng mag champion sila agad kung sa papel ang pagbabasehan pero laging bilog ang bola...at halos lahat ng team ngayun ay gusto sila talunin dahil nga sa lakas ng line-up nila sa papel....
 
the actual game ay sa hard court....

Its not an attitude, its a Historical Fact sir pagdating sa Miami.

e.g. Bulls killed Miami sa Regular games sweep atan noon 2010-2011 season, then first game sa ECF Miami, lost, but then naSweep na ng Mia next games.

Saka di lang naman sa Miami, pati sa ibang teams, nagiiba chemistry pag sa Playoffs.
So regular games won't say much regarding sa match ups and team play (NA yun naman ang context sir ng usapan namin), but its entertainning and importante siyempre sa Standing.

[puffalan84]

Miami doesn't need a center because Lebron can play center if Spo wants him to.  That's the luxury of having Lebron in your team.  He can play all positions.

No offense sir, I like LBJ, but I don't think he can play center for a quarter, let alone a whole 48 mins. game.. Maybe against other Eastern teams pwede cause wala naman masyado great center or bigman, but we all saw in playoffs that he can't Guard Garnett in low post, helpless..  Then sa West, Heat struggles against Dwight Howard, then dagdag mo pa si Gasol.. Then the Center and power forwards of the west, Love, Griffin, Bogut, Lee, Duncan, Gasol, and so on.. LBJ against these big men? nah..

I hate Kobe, LBJ, and Durant winning games, but I like and enjoy watching them.. Go Spurs..

I like the Warriors to be the surprise team, Nuggets make some noise (they have a superstar PG  ) and Clips to go deep in playoffs.. kaya lang LAL, SAS, and OKC pa rin ang elite..  

[dpogs]

hybernating ang isa ko pang team na bulls... bumubuwelo... sana sila magharap ng Miami sa Eastern Finals.

[rukawakaide1721]

unfortunately, those are only regular games. it won't say much since Miami has another level when it comes to the playoffs.


Bro...paanong level? you mean naglelevel up ang miami pag playoff? ei pano kung regular season palang puro talo na sila pano sila makakarating sa playoff? mapa regular games at playoff parehas lang ang laro....bakit ibang miami team ba maglalaro sa playoff? ibang players ba? lahat ng game ay importante sa bawat team mapa regular season o playoff, dahil lahat sila may hinahabol na regular season record (CHICAGO BULLS) 95-96 season 72-10 all the way to the NBA Championship at ang lahat ng team ay gustong makakuha ng home court advantage


Well until proven otherwise (Beat Miami) then Miami not needing a true center in today's NBA still stands sir.

nako sa lahat po ng team na basketball kailangan ang centre....para makabuo ng isang team sa loob ng court....mapa true centre man siya o hindi kailangan sa team ang centre....

 

[5zig3n]

All D12 has improved with the Lakers anyway is rebounding. Some even say Bynum was better all around.

Bynum = better low post offense, better FT shooter
D12 = more active defensively (protecting the rim, rebounding)

Bynum = immature
D12 = diva

pick your poison

[2fast2furious]

D12 should do 28-15 to win an NBA title with the lakers plus coached by Phil Jackson. 

[5zig3n]

sometimes people exaggerate into thinking that lebron is the God of basketball, isang title pa lang yan tsk tsk

Lebron is good.. as in very, very good. but kailangan ba every single post, sambahin siya?

[5zig3n]

D12 should do 28-15 to win an NBA title with the lakers plus coached by Phil Jackson.  

nah. KB24, Pau, and Nash can handle the offensive load.. the Lakers got D12 to be their defensive anchor.

Bynum is also a good defensive anchor, but sometimes parang tinatamad at walang gana.

im also curious as to how Bynum would handle the spotlight in Philly being the focal point of the offense and defense.

as for Phil Jax, i think he's better suited to handle the multiple egos on this year's Lakers compared to potato head.

[rusty]

Paging Pat Riley,available pa rin ang Bill Russell ng PBA:

[2fast2furious]

Paging Pat Riley,available pa rin ang Bill Russell ng PBA:

si greg oden na lang. wag na yan. 

[rukawakaide1721]

hahaha astig yan....not the best centre sa era niya at sa PBA pero ilang championship ring meron siya....kaya kailangan ng bawat team ng centre mapa no.1 or kulelat ng centre...

Paging Pat Riley,available pa rin ang Bill Russell ng PBA:

[5zig3n]

Bolado = Miami Heat
Jawo = Lakers

[rexFi]

Bro...paanong level? you mean naglelevel up ang miami pag playoff? ei pano kung regular season palang puro talo na sila pano sila makakarating sa playoff? mapa regular games at playoff parehas lang ang laro....bakit ibang miami team ba maglalaro sa playoff? ibang players ba? lahat ng game ay importante sa bawat team mapa regular season o playoff, dahil lahat sila may hinahabol na regular season record (CHICAGO BULLS) 95-96 season 72-10 all the way to the NBA Championship at ang lahat ng team ay gustong makakuha ng home court advantage

Kanino itong post? hehe

Anyway, check the context of what we were talking about. Nagrerespond lang ako sir regarding evaluating Team Matchups during Regular vs. Playoffs.

I said di makikita sa Regular season mostly kasi nagiiba laro pag Playoffs.

nako sa lahat po ng team na basketball kailangan ang centre....para makabuo ng isang team sa loob ng court....mapa true centre man siya o hindi kailangan sa team ang centre....

 

Du'h

[5zig3n]

The 2013 Lakers aren't the 2004 Lakers
By Andy Kamenetzky
ESPNLosAngeles.com

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[rukawakaide1721]

hahaha natawa ako dito waiting na rin ako...

The 2013 Lakers aren't the 2004 Lakers
By Andy Kamenetzky
ESPNLosAngeles.com

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[Timithekid]

unfortunately, those are only regular games. it won't say much since Miami has another level when it comes to the playoffs.

Well until proven otherwise (Beat Miami) then Miami not needing a true center in today's NBA still stands sir.

Maybe after a few more championships i'll believe that miami has the best formula.  The spurs have 4 championships in modern basketball thanks to a dominant duncan. The lakers have 5 rings, 3 with shaq and 2 with Gasol and Bynum.  Dallas won with a defensive Chandler and a scoring Nowitzki.  Boston has 1 ring with a brilliant KG that year and a defensive Perkins, only the detroit pistons won without a legitimate center(unless you REALLY conside big ben a center).  Thats 11 years since '00 that a true center was present(and yes, Duncan is indeed a center, check him out during his wake forest days and he played both the 4 and 5 spot just as much) in a championship team.  Lebron, as good as he is cannot play center, roy hibbert of indiana gave him hell when bosh went down.  So did KG, and only upon bosh's return was miami able to match up properly.  

You mentioned beat miami first to say they dont need a center, well i believe The Dallas Mavericks did that last year.  Regarding Miami having a different level during the playoffs, i think the same could be said for each top 4 team from both conferences, to declare that only miami has that is arrogance, but because you are a heat fan, its love for your team so that comment should be forgiven.  


Like all of you, i cant waiit for the new season to start.  

[5zig3n]

nako sa lahat po ng team na basketball kailangan ang centre....para makabuo ng isang team sa loob ng court....mapa true centre man siya o hindi kailangan sa team ang centre....

 

Miami doesn't need a center, can't you haters understand that?!

Lebron is the ZEUS of modern day NBA basketball.. DEAL WITH IT!

upgraded Lakers? motivated Thunder? pffft! walang binatbat ang mga yan sa MIAMI FREAKIN' HEAT!

[anya618]

eto dapat center nyo, shooting threes without looking 

[rexFi]

Maybe after a few more championships i'll believe that miami has the best formula.  The spurs have 4 championships in modern basketball thanks to a dominant duncan. The lakers have 5 rings, 3 with shaq and 2 with Gasol and Bynum.  Dallas won with a defensive Chandler and a scoring Nowitzki.  Boston has 1 ring with a brilliant KG that year and a defensive Perkins, only the detroit pistons won without a legitimate center(unless you REALLY conside big ben a center).  Thats 11 years since '00 that a true center was present(and yes, Duncan is indeed a center, check him out during his wake forest days and he played both the 4 and 5 spot just as much) in a championship team.  Lebron, as good as he is cannot play center, roy hibbert of indiana gave him hell when bosh went down.  So did KG, and only upon bosh's return was miami able to match up properly.

Baligtad lang tayo ng Belief pero ganon na nga rin. Until proven otherwise since "we are the (current) champions my friends ♫ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♫ ♫"

I rather believe Coach K though regarding leBron heres the LINK

Because of team play, Hibbert had a hard time, he can't even touch the ball once Spo drew up the plan to neutralize him and KG... didn't they lose the ECF?

Also Bosh is not a True Center.

Another "evidence" Riley/Spo's system worked/works.

You mentioned beat miami first to say they dont need a center, well i believe The Dallas Mavericks did that last year.

Well the problem last time was LeBron as is he was the reason they won this season and their system is not that polished.

Regarding Miami having a different level during the playoffs, i think the same could be said for each top 4 team from both conferences, to declare that only miami has that is arrogance, but because you are a heat fan, its love for your team so that comment should be forgiven.

I didn't say Miami only has it, for now the example regarding the Bulls is the evidence of this. Bulls were number 1 in a season then they lost to Miami at the playoffs.

No arrogance there, just facts. Why am I biased when I think Mavs, Spurs, Clippers and specially OKC will still give Lakers fits? and Boston will still threaten Miami and may lose to them? Offcourse every team can lose to another team.

But the conversation/context was a fellow poster gave dates of regular season games of Lakers vs. MIA and OKC to see daw and evaluate the Team Matchups. I only mentioned the "levels" because a Playoff Series is very different and we won't properly evaluate teams in regular season.

^ Is the "level" thing clear now?

Like all of you, i cant waiit for the new season to start.  

Tagal pa, kaya discussion muna.