Author Topic: Comparisons of Receivers (Read 333915 times)

Aylwin · « **Reply #180 on:** Sep 27, 2002 at 06:46 PM »

Hi arjohnperez,

Kung less than 1 year pa lang (under warranty pa) at kilala mo yung owner... plus, kung alam mong maganda pa ang condition niya... baka yung 575X nga and best option mo.

Unfortunately, hindi ako familiar sa prices dyan sa Pinas. Magkano ba ang brand new? Anyway, kung kilala mo nga yung owner at okay ang condition nung unit baka okay na rin ang asking price. Of course, it's always nice to get a discount but if it's already a good offer...

I think I sold my 575X for around 15K (rough conversion to pesos) but I can't be sure. Anyway, I bought it for around 22-25K (not very precise pero hindi ko masyado alam ang exchange rate).

Jick · « **Reply #181 on:** Sep 29, 2002 at 11:17 PM »

Quote from: arjohnperez on Sep 25, 2002 at 10:06 PM

guys,
pls. advice... i'm choosing between denon1602, onkyo tx-ds575x, yamaha 496. ano ba ang pinaka okay between the 3 receivers? im planning to use M73i speakers. ito yung price na nakuha ko: denon1602 (19k bnew), onkyo tx-ds575x (15k pero 2nd hand), yamaha 496 (13k pero 2nd hand).

Why not the Yamaha RXV430? It's 15K too. I saw the Denon 1602 and was not impressed with the remote. The Yamaha has a very nice functional remote that is also a universal remote serving up to three components, so it takes care of my TV and DVD player as well.

I didn't much difference between the yamaha and denon in terms of sound. I'm also not a big fan of most DSP modes. So in the end it just comes down to convenience and the Yamahas remote is one of the best stock remotes out there.

Jovi

shine · « **Reply #182 on:** Sep 29, 2002 at 11:39 PM »

agree with you Jick. One of the best nga ang remote nang yamaha, di sakit sa ulo. User friendly yet so powerfull. Yamaha RXV430 compared to denon 1602, sabi nila mas lamang daw ang denon sa music, pero sa yamaha naman kung sa Home theater but medyo walang naman masyadong pinagkaiba kung a music, mas maganda pa nga kasi angat siya dahil may DSP siya. Sa denon naman mas angat siya sa price compared sa yamaha around P3k+, sa porma...denon 1602 ako.

levi · « **Reply #183 on:** Oct 14, 2002 at 12:00 AM »

reposting for inox

I just went to Sight and Sounds Shangri-la and was told to go for a Denon AVR 484 instead of Yamaha RXV430 considering it's just a thousand peso more. He also said that Yamaha is only good on their higher-end models, and that Yamaha is good for movies. On the other side Onkyo is good in music audios. While Denon is good on both of these...

Are all of these true?

Is the Denon AVR 484 the better deal?

I'm just starting up with a budgeted HT and a little help from any of you guys (expert or newbies alike) can go a long way.

Thanks.

shine · « **Reply #184 on:** Oct 14, 2002 at 03:50 AM »

Sa tingin ko ang counterpart nang yamaha rxv430 is the denon avr1602. Comparing the two, kailangan alam mo kung ano ang mas preferred mo kung music or movies. Kung all music ka, sabi nila mas maganda raw talaga ang Denon, kung sa movies ka naman mas lamang ka sa yamaha kasi may mga features na pang cinema talaga ang yamaha. Kung sabihin naman nating 50-50 sa music and movies, sabi naman sa megamall (i forgot the store) sa yamaha sila. definitely di masyadong nagkakalayo ang quality nang dalawa kasi iba-iba ang suggestion eh...

emm · « **Reply #185 on:** Oct 16, 2002 at 04:41 PM »

I'm just a newbie sa HT and i'm comparing Denon 1803, Yamaha 730 and Onkyo 700 for a B&W 600 series speakers, What do you think would be the best match?

levi · « **Reply #186 on:** Oct 19, 2002 at 01:26 AM »

Reposting for Tekgik,

ey guys,

im new in the HT world... I have a existing sony HT set-up with sony str-d435. The one im setting-up for now is for my room and i want it to be more detailed in setting-up an HT system. I was satisfied with my sony set-up but after i heard other set-up like a b&w with yamaha! Im amazed!

Back to my Q, i recently purchased a pioneer dv-355. And planning to add a receiver after a day/month (when the money comes =) ) Ive read about the yam 430 for its best in movie capabilities, But Im more concern in pure clean movie & music too! Others said that the onkyo's are good at this. So im choosing from this models:

onkyo txsr 500 or 600
yamaha rxv 430 or 530

ofcorse the higher the model the more budget probs. So i narrow it with the onk 500 & yam 430. And do you know a shop that sell it then accept paylite payent by citibank?

Thank You so much! And oh yeah! A heads up for the inventor of this site! Also the modz and ever patient members!

levi · « **Reply #187 on:** Oct 19, 2002 at 01:27 AM »

Reposting

If you want something that will be very good in music too, get the Onkyo. It's better than Yamaha IMHO. Tech Central in Makati Cinema Square is accepting Citibank Paylite, look for Amiel.

levi · « **Reply #188 on:** Oct 19, 2002 at 01:28 AM »

Reposting

jhun,

tnx man!

baka meron kang tel number nila para tawagan ko muna tungkol sa prices and availability, bago ako pumunta layo ko pa kase e

tnx agen!

greatbop · « **Reply #189 on:** Oct 19, 2002 at 02:40 AM »

emm>

which speakers are you looking at? kung bibilhin mo lang are yung mga bookshelfs, either 1803 or 1603 will do the job. But if you're getting 604s or 605s, you definitely wanna give 2803 or the upcoming 3803 a consideration.

dahil if you buy 605s tapos 1803 lang ang receiver mo, sayang lang ang binayad mo sa speakers mo. dahil it's not even gonna push 605s at all...

JhunDV · « **Reply #190 on:** Oct 21, 2002 at 12:40 PM »

Quote from: levi on Oct 19, 2002 at 01:28 AM

Reposting

jhun,

tnx man! baka meron kang tel number nila para tawagan ko muna tungkol sa prices and availability, bago ako pumunta layo ko pa kase e

tnx agen!

tekgik - tech-central - makati cinema square=811-1668 - amiel

sgc_wdi · « **Reply #191 on:** Dec 02, 2002 at 12:12 PM »

I'm thinking of getting a new receiver. Was wondering, what brands would rival those of Yamahas? I'm particularly looking for the 630, or even the 1200. Are there cheaper alternatives that have basically the same feature set, and a good performer?

Courage · « **Reply #192 on:** Dec 02, 2002 at 03:39 PM »

Try mo Denon or Onkyo recievers

sgc_wdi · « **Reply #193 on:** Dec 02, 2002 at 04:03 PM »

do you know the specific models? are these cheaper?

john5479 · « **Reply #194 on:** Dec 02, 2002 at 08:10 PM »

also try marantz

sillyputty · « **Reply #195 on:** Dec 02, 2002 at 08:26 PM »

for denon.... try 1803(DTS ES discrete)
for onkyo..... try sr600(DTS ES/DD EX discrete)
both are at around 24.5k

yamaha 630(23k) only has matrix versions of DTS and DD

for marantz...sr5200(DTS ES discrete).. di ko lang alam kung magkano....

stradale · « **Reply #196 on:** Dec 02, 2002 at 09:35 PM »

When I was in the market for a receiver, I chose among the Denon 2802, Onkyo TXSR700, and the Yamaha RXV1200 which were more or less in the same price and feature level. I could'nt find a 2802 that I could demo so yung dalawa na lang ang pinagpilian ko. For my ears the Yamaha was better for HT (more presence) and I could'nt detect much difference for 2-channel stereo so I chose the Yammie over the Onkyo.

If I were you, I'd check out the Denon first especially if you are biased towards music. I find the Yammie sound too up-front for music. Gusto ko laid back and I heard Denons are more laid back than Yammies. For HT though, you can't go wrong with Yammies.

muscleboy · « **Reply #197 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 12:47 AM »

I've demoed units from Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo, and a Harman Kardon. Though the differences in home theater use are more or less the same with most of them, I find the Harman Kardon receivers better in 2 channel (stereo) music..

just my 2 cents worth..

sgc_wdi · « **Reply #198 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 02:18 PM »

thanks guys... so the matrix version of Yamaha is sort of like an emulation only right? It's not really 6.1 discrete?

sgc_wdi · « **Reply #199 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 02:59 PM »

Did a quick search, the Denon 1803 looks like it's cheaper than the Onkyo SR600. However, the Onkyo has a 192k DAC while the Denon only has 96k DAC.

What would you guys recommend if you were to choose between these two?

sillyputty · « **Reply #200 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 03:15 PM »

onkyo. all 6.1 formats are covered, OSD pa.

tuff_u_gong · « **Reply #201 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 03:42 PM »

Quote from: sillyputty on Dec 02, 2002 at 08:26 PM

for denon.... try 1803(DTS ES discrete)
for onkyo..... try sr600(DTS ES/DD EX discrete)
both are at around 24.5k

yamaha 630(23k) only has matrix versions of DTS and DD

for marantz...sr5200(DTS ES discrete).. di ko lang alam kung magkano....

nice thing about the 630, though is that it has pre-outs that can be plugged to a separate amp if you think that 80wpc (or less) is not enough to drive power hungry speakers.

sgc_wdi · « **Reply #202 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 03:55 PM »

Quote from: sillyputty on Dec 03, 2002 at 03:15 PM

onkyo. all 6.1 formats are covered, OSD pa.

I think the denon also covers all 6.1 formats... wala lang OSD. Isn't it that Onkyo's are more for Audio enthusiasts? I plan to use the receiver for movies. Would the Onkyo do?

v0elker · « **Reply #203 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 04:21 PM »

although the Onkyos sound warmer than the Yams, the new onkyo receivers (heard a friend's tx-sr500) doesnt sound competent in HT. i gave him my marantz sr4200 when i left manila and he said it sounds better than his onkyo.

marantz or denon should be a safe bet, all-around performer in both HT and music.

sillyputty · « **Reply #204 on:** Dec 03, 2002 at 05:41 PM »

Please check. I think denon 1803 lacks DD EX decoding.

tuff_u_gong · « **Reply #205 on:** Dec 04, 2002 at 10:36 AM »

Quote from: sillyputty on Dec 03, 2002 at 03:15 PM

onkyo. all 6.1 formats are covered, OSD pa.

hi sillputty,

which is the most affordable ONKYO receiver model with a DTS 96/24 decoder and pre-outs?

thanks!

jojitb · « **Reply #206 on:** Dec 04, 2002 at 11:12 AM »

this link might be of use to some:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=8c06072e5d9829aadbd3ec44ecb270c0&threadid=107960

sillyputty · « **Reply #207 on:** Dec 04, 2002 at 01:11 PM »

Quote from: sillyputty on Dec 03, 2002 at 05:41 PM

Please check. I think denon 1803 lacks DD EX decoding.

My mistake. Denon 1803 does decode DD EX. Just downloaded the pdf file.

sgc_wdi · « **Reply #208 on:** Dec 04, 2002 at 02:48 PM »

is there a big difference with a 192khz and a 96khz DAC? is it very noticeable?

caycski · « **Reply #209 on:** Dec 04, 2002 at 04:51 PM »

Guys,

How come no one among you recommend a "Pioneer" for HT/Audio receiver? Aint that good ba sya to be not included among Onkyo, Denon & Yamaha.

I'm curious co'z I'm going to audition this coming sat VSX-D811S-S at Listening Room (Mega). Can you give me some more insights re: pioneer before it's too late.

Your opinions are very much welcome. Thanks.

caycski