Author Topic: Marantz Receivers (Read 269462 times)

gutierrez · « **Reply #360 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 03:51 AM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Sep 18, 2003 at 01:39 PM

yup, that's another possibility... on marantz receivers its called Night Mode. when its turned on, loud passages become... well, not loud, as if the receiver is turning down the volume for you automatically.

so there may be 2 reasons your sr6300 isn't playing loud:

ATT mode - cuts down the volume in half

NIGHT mode - cuts down the volume of loud passages

I checked these settings and neither is turned on

I went back to the store and everything is fine naman when they checked the avr with the same kind of speakers, volume is loud and ok. When I got back home, I just connected the avr (w/o touching the settings) but still no good

. I tried different connectors optical, rca coax and tested the unit on diff audio source (dvd, xbox, tv) but evrythin is still the same.

I guess I'm stuck up

, hope that someone can help me out.

dexterc · « **Reply #361 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 04:51 AM »

Thats weird bro....palit unit ka na lang

gutierrez · « **Reply #362 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 05:09 AM »

Quote from: dexterc on Sep 19, 2003 at 04:51 AM

Thats weird bro....palit unit ka na lang

kung pwede lang sana, pero it's not possible ksi ok naman nung i-test sa store

BAD TRIP talaga, I spent a lot of money for this pero hanggang ngayon di ko pa sya nagagamit

, sayang lang pera huhuhuhu :'(

dexterc · « **Reply #363 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 05:37 AM »

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 19, 2003 at 05:09 AM

kung pwede lang sana, pero it's not possible ksi ok naman nung i-test sa store

BAD TRIP talaga, I spent a lot of money for this pero hanggang ngayon di ko pa sya nagagamit , sayang lang pera huhuhuhu :'(

Kakaiba nga kung ok nun test nyo sa store tapos pag inuuwi mo di na maganda tumunog...baka namamahay

..Kidding aside..use the settings na ginamit nung maganda tunog sa store..tapos yung ang gamitin mo sa inyo. By the way same ba lahat ng speaker at interconnect na gamit mo sa ginamit sa store na pinag bilhan mo ng receiver mo?..kung pareho nga lahat..mahirap sagutin yang katanungan mo

nels76 · « **Reply #364 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 06:33 AM »

'Di kaya may "MAGIC" doon sa store.

medyo OT but i would like to share this:

sinamahan ko friend ko sa one of the audio stores sa manila to buy a Mission M72 last february. before the demo, I told the salesman to connect only the M72 sa AVR and nothing else.

During the demo, we were surprised na napakaganda ng bass niya. I was impressed and thought that the m72 belie it size. With this, I tried to play a BASS CD and noticed that some other speakers are connected and sumasabay sa tunog ng m72. we found out that a big sub is also sounding together with the m72.

Anyway, my friend bought it.

My advise to you fellow members, during the demo make sure no "magical things" are happening at the store.

rmpmla · « **Reply #365 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 07:17 AM »

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 19, 2003 at 03:51 AM

I checked these settings and neither is turned on

I went back to the store and everything is fine naman when they checked the avr with the same kind of speakers, volume is loud and ok. When I got back home, I just connected the avr (w/o touching the settings) but still no good . I tried different connectors optical, rca coax and tested the unit on diff audio source (dvd, xbox, tv) but evrythin is still the same.

I guess I'm stuck up , hope that someone can help me out.

have you checked the speaker cables? usually hihina ang volume, especially yung bass, pag nagkabaligtad yung termination.

pwede mo rin na macheck using DVD w/ THX optimizer kung may out of phase na speaker pair.

nerveblocker · « **Reply #366 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 07:37 AM »

Better yet bring the speakers with the receiver and your speaker wires and interconnects on where you bought them and have them installed at the shop then you will know what is wrong. Hassle lang but then you'll know what is wrong.

gutierrez · « **Reply #367 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 07:45 AM »

Quote from: nirvblakr on Sep 19, 2003 at 07:37 AM

Better yet bring the speakers with the receiver and your speaker wires and interconnects on where you bought them and have them installed at the shop then you will know what is wrong. Hassle lang but then you'll know what is wrong.

This is indeed the best thing to do, but the problem is I bought the speakers and avr on a different store so of course dun sa store wer I purchased the receiver will blame the speakers or cables or vice versa

cousin skeeter · « **Reply #368 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 10:42 AM »

gutierrez

why dont you invite some of em pinoydvd dudes for lunch and have them help you, hehe. coz i feel some em guys heads are itching and fingers twitching to know whats causing your dilemna. i for one would really like to know what's wrong with the setup coz am eyeing the marantz 6300 too.

gutierrez · « **Reply #369 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 10:48 AM »

Quote from: cousin skeeter on Sep 19, 2003 at 10:42 AM

gutierrez

why dont you invite some of em pinoydvd dudes for lunch and have them help you, hehe. coz i feel some em guys heads are itching and fingers twitching to know whats causing your dilemna. i for one would really like to know what's wrong with the setup coz am eyeing the marantz 6300 too.

That seems ok, gusto ko nga ma test yun setup ko with a different receiver to isolate the problem, hope someone kind enough will test their receiver to mine

iceman90a · « **Reply #370 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 10:53 AM »

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 19, 2003 at 10:48 AM

That seems ok, gusto ko nga ma test yun setup ko with a different receiver to isolate the problem, hope someone kind enough will test their receiver to mine

where do you live bro? want to test my speakers with your rcvr, and we can test your spkrs with my amp

gutierrez · « **Reply #371 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 10:55 AM »

Im' from pasig, near sta lucia east mall

iceman90a · « **Reply #372 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 10:58 AM »

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 19, 2003 at 10:55 AM

Im' from pasig, near sta lucia east mall

cool - i sort of know the area, i'll be in the UP area tom am. afternoon, libre ka?

gutierrez · « **Reply #373 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 11:01 AM »

Quote from: iceman90a on Sep 19, 2003 at 10:58 AM

cool - i sort of know the area, i'll be in the UP area tom am. afternoon, libre ka?

sent u pm

mdsaint3 · « **Reply #374 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 11:30 AM »

gut - have you tried listening to other sources? like radio? or connect your tv to your avr if ano sound.. malakas ba ? baka naman source mo may problem.. please update us din..very intriguing kasi yun problem mo..

akyatbundok · « **Reply #375 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 12:05 PM »

Quote from: rmpmla on Sep 19, 2003 at 07:17 AM

have you checked the speaker cables? usually hihina ang volume, especially yung bass, pag nagkabaligtad yung termination.

i've experienced this before... one of my front speakers was out of phase because i reversed the + and - wire. it just sounded "wrong" or "bitin", with lost dynamics. maybe it was cancelling the sound of the other speaker?

could also be the player... i saw this in the Sources forum. phase inversion in the player itself is a possibility.

Quote from: Archangel on Sep 15, 2003 at 07:23 AM

I recently got this cd player to replace my Samsung dvd player as a music source. It sounded ok when I auditioned it at AV Surfer with a NAD T741 receiver and Definitive Technology speakers certainly better than the Sony DVD player that they had hooked up. However, when I brought it home and hooked it up to a NAD C320BEE and Wharfedale Diamond 8.1s music exhibited harshness and some tracks that sounded quite good on my dvd player were now difficult to listen to. I searched the web and came across a suggestion in audioreview.com to invert my speaker connections as the player could exhibit phase inversion. Tried it and viola! full bodied sound with focused mid-range and tight bass.

Can somebody please explain why this (phase inversion by the source) could happen? Will the remedy lead to shortening my amp's or speakers lives?

gutierrez · « **Reply #376 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 12:12 PM »

Quote from: akyatbundok on Sep 19, 2003 at 12:05 PM

i've experienced this before... one of my front speakers was out of phase because i reversed the + and - wire. it just sounded "wrong" or "bitin", with lost dynamics. maybe it was cancelling the sound of the other speaker?

it could also be your source... see this post that i took from the Sources forum.

I'll try switchin the cables and see what will happen

degro01 · « **Reply #377 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 06:02 PM »

I've tried to increase the speaker level and indeed the loudness increased Mas malakas na siya pero hindi pa din kasing ganda ng sa setup kay Sonny T.

I'm using Marantz 6300, Mission m73i (Front and Center), Yamaha NS45 for surround and surround center(from my old setup). I'm also using Optical Cable from DVD to AVR.

What's the ideal speaker level setup ba? Some say it's +3 pero ako I had to set to +10.

By the way, I'm more particular sa Front Left and Right pag nakikinig. So what I meant by mahina is mahina ang Front Left and Right.

I'm beginning to believe that it's the room acoustics that's causing the volume to sound soft. The room is 3 X 4 Meters.

Thanks!

levi · « **Reply #378 on:** Sep 19, 2003 at 07:05 PM »

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 19, 2003 at 07:45 AM

This is indeed the best thing to do, but the problem is I bought the speakers and avr on a different store so of course dun sa store wer I purchased the receiver will blame the speakers or cables or vice versa

Do you have new speakers? Baka it needs some break-in because my velodyne was weak initially but became loud after some hours of use. The speakers at the store might be running for some time that is why its louder. just my 1 cent.

gutierrez · « **Reply #379 on:** Sep 20, 2003 at 04:18 AM »

Quote from: rond on Sep 19, 2003 at 06:02 PM

I've tried to increase the speaker level and indeed the loudness increased Mas malakas na siya pero hindi pa din kasing ganda ng sa setup kay Sonny T.

I'm using Marantz 6300, Mission m73i (Front and Center), Yamaha NS45 for surround and surround center(from my old setup). I'm also using Optical Cable from DVD to AVR.

What's the ideal speaker level setup ba? Some say it's +3 pero ako I had to set to +10.

By the way, I'm more particular sa Front Left and Right pag nakikinig. So what I meant by mahina is mahina ang Front Left and Right.

I'm beginning to believe that it's the room acoustics that's causing the volume to sound soft. The room is 3 X 4 Meters.

Thanks!

hindi ba nakakapagtaka pag sa store malakas pero pag sa bahay mahina na

(using same kind of speakers)

Yun room ko half size lang ng demo room so it should sound louder pero grabe ang hina. Yun settings mo na +10 lahat ng individual speakervolume is todo na yun, nung binalik ko yun 6300 sa store the speaker level is just +6 (pero malaks na, as in).
One more thing is yun mga marantz 4300 users di sila umaabot ng ganun so something's not right $:-\$

dolby · « **Reply #380 on:** Sep 20, 2003 at 06:45 AM »

try mo nalang dalhin sa store na pinag bilhan mo para sigurado ka talaga (setting talaga or meron magic). the better kung madadala mo yung speaker and cables. 100% makikita mo yung problem.

alam ko sa electronics equiment pwede mong papalitan ng other brand within one week kung nde ka satisfied.

gutierrez · « **Reply #381 on:** Sep 20, 2003 at 06:53 AM »

Quote from: dolby on Sep 20, 2003 at 06:45 AM

try mo nalang dalhin sa store na pinag bilhan mo para sigurado ka talaga (setting talaga or meron magic). the better kung madadala mo yung speaker and cables. 100% makikita mo yung problem.

alam ko sa electronics equiment pwede mong papalitan ng other brand within one week kung nde ka satisfied.

pwede pa nga sana papalitan kaso over a week na

cousin skeeter · « **Reply #382 on:** Sep 20, 2003 at 09:38 AM »

gutierrez,

levi might be right, the speakers might need to be broken in. i noticed that when my friend bought his new m72i's, they weren't as powerful nor as great sounding as they are today. but from your description, it seems that the sound is way weaker from what you would expect so it may still not be the answer to your problem.

have you tried other sources as they've suggested (fm radio, tv)? or maybe you can borrow a different set of speaker cables so that at least you can isolate the problem.

anyway, if iceman is coming over to test his receiver and speakers with yours, i think then we'll finally know the answer to this riddle.

gutierrez · « **Reply #383 on:** Sep 20, 2003 at 09:51 AM »

Quote from: cousin skeeter on Sep 20, 2003 at 09:38 AM

gutierrez,

levi might be right, the speakers might need to be broken in. i noticed that when my friend bought his new m72i's, they weren't as powerful nor as great sounding as they are today. but from your description, it seems that the sound is way weaker from what you would expect so it may still not be the answer to your problem.

have you tried other sources as they've suggested (fm radio, tv)? or maybe you can borrow a different set of speaker cables so that at least you can isolate the problem.

anyway, if iceman is coming over to test his receiver and speakers with yours, i think then we'll finally know the answer to this riddle.

that's right bro, actually I'll go to akyat bundok's place later and test my receiver, dvd and cables on his ht.

hopefully I could isolate the problem na

Philander · « **Reply #384 on:** Sep 21, 2003 at 05:46 PM »

gutierrez and others,

Any updates?

Thanks.

gutierrez · « **Reply #385 on:** Sep 21, 2003 at 07:24 PM »

Baka naman meron dyan marantz and mission (m70i's) user na mabait and willing to let me audition his stuff, para naman ma compare ko yun sakin and figure out what's wrong.

I'm gettin dissapointed na kasi with my setup, ksi hanggang ngayon di ko pa maenjoy

Narayan · « **Reply #386 on:** Sep 21, 2003 at 09:32 PM »

Quote from: gutierrez on Sep 21, 2003 at 07:24 PM

Baka naman meron dyan marantz and mission (m70i's) user na mabait and willing to let me audition his stuff, para naman ma compare ko yun sakin and figure out what's wrong.

I'm gettin dissapointed na kasi with my setup, ksi hanggang ngayon di ko pa maenjoy

bro, pls. text my brod in law named ronnie alberto at 09179047702 for you to find out what he did to remedy the same problem he had with the 6300 AVR he also got from sonny tuazon. i will text him to expect a text msg from you. hope he can be of help to you.

akyatbundok · « **Reply #387 on:** Sep 21, 2003 at 10:01 PM »

pare i may be wrong but i think the missing link in your setup is a subwoofer. would be interesting to hear the speakers in your listening area, but your philips dvd player, sr6300 receiver & cables seem fine.

the loudness in a HT really comes from the sub. even if you crank up the volume, its impossible to get the same effect with speakers. even with 10" woofers my floorstanders still cannot recreate the full movie experience without a little help from a sub. the sound loses its "bigness" when i turn off the sub, and i'm using a relatively small one at that.

maybe you can try listening to the store's demo setup with the sub turned off and compare the sound.

mdsaint3 · « **Reply #388 on:** Sep 21, 2003 at 10:02 PM »

m70i??? thought m73.. hmm yeah sub could be the missing link.. no centers and surrounds ba?

james16 · « **Reply #389 on:** Sep 21, 2003 at 11:37 PM »

Do you mean m70i series ba?

anyway, malaking bagay yung sub lalo na sa movies. did u try it during audio playback also kung mahina pa rin bigay nyan?