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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #330 on: Nov 01, 2013 at 02:57 PM »
Goodbye Plasma (sad)

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #331 on: Nov 01, 2013 at 03:00 PM »
Just as I thought, this time it's real.  On October 8, 2013, no confirmation from Panny.  On October 31, 2013, Panny officially confirms:
 
Panasonic officially pulls plug on plasma TV business
posted on Thursday, 31st October 2013 by Steve May

"...Panasonic has finally, officially confirmed that it will close its plasma TV business at the end of this financial year."

http://www.insideci.co.uk/news/panasonic-officially-pulls-plug-on-plasma-tv-business.aspx
 
 
 
 
TV shoppers: Now is the time to buy a Panasonic plasma
by David Katzmaier
October 31, 2013

The end of an era is official. On March 31, 2014, Panasonic "will end sales of plasma TVs for consumer use and PDP-related products for commercial use," in the company's own words. ...

... Now the most common question I get from readers is, "Should I buy a Panasonic plasma now?" My answer in general is almost always "yes," and now that I know they're going to be extinct soon, it's "YES!"

... Will Samsung continue making plasmas next year? What about LG? I don't know, but my guess is now that Panasonic has pulled out, those two already LCD-centric companies will also abandon the technology soon.

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57610230-221/tv-shoppers-now-is-the-time-to-buy-a-panasonic-plasma/
 


Oh NO!!!  I love my PANA PLASMA!!!

Tsk tsk tsk... This is sad news indeed :(

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #332 on: Nov 01, 2013 at 05:22 PM »
i'm having a hard time selling my 2012 e8000 plasma( i won it from my company xmas giveaways last yr.) coz most of my potential buyers think plasma is old and dead tech. now with this news this will surely put some ammunition on that argument ouch. once i get rid this e8000 i will surely get myself an LED panel perhaps the sony's w904 mababa na ngayon ang price nya last time i tsk sa SnS sulit account 55 inch. for a 90k not bad. so with this scenario at least i wont be having a hard time selling my w904 unit by the time ang OLED prices are affordable na...

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #333 on: Nov 01, 2013 at 10:01 PM »
My Mar 2010 V2 is covered by warranty until Mar 2015, so aftersales support and availability of parts from Panasonic  (in countries where they effectively apply) should give 5 more years to enjoy a Plasma from the last manufacturing date - Dec 2018 bale - just the right time to wait for 4K or 8K or whatever K comes out.

In the case of mid class SLRs, it used to be 8 years - kahit na bumagsak yung business (like Minolta for instance)

Problem is to save enough budget to buy a Panasonic V or Z before the stocks totally run out in 2014.

Buti nalang Samsung can make top-notch high end Plasmas already.


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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #334 on: Nov 01, 2013 at 10:04 PM »
Maganda nga ang V or Z series hopefully may ibaba pa sa thanks giving or black friday. I thinking of getting one.

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #335 on: Nov 02, 2013 at 03:55 AM »
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #336 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 06:24 AM »
with the news from panasonic that they are shutting down their plasma tv production, does it mean it's no longer advisable to get a plasma tv nowadays?

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #337 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 09:11 AM »
with the news from panasonic that they are shutting down their plasma tv production, does it mean it's no longer advisable to get a plasma tv nowadays?

you cant go wrong buying a plasma still the best unless if your planning to selling it in the future then you'll be having hard time in doing that(e.g. like me i've been posting my e8000 and its been a month already no takers upto now here in cebu) becoz most of the folks think that plasma is old technology, power hugger,burn-in issues, to much heat etc..etc..

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #338 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 03:09 PM »
Sa tingin ko mahirap ibenta ang E8000 kasi mahal, kasi highest-end yon.   Kahit LED, pag highest-end, mahirap din ibenta.

Pag lower-end, madali lang ibenta kahit plasma o LED.  Mas mura kasi.

Yung old plasmas ko, unahan pa yung kamag-anak ko kahit Panasonics yon (which is a less desirable brand for non-enthusiasts).  Hindi na nga nakarating sa pdvd market place, benta agad.  Paano puro low-end lang yung mga TV ko.
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #339 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 08:17 PM »
I'm at ends between choosing the Samsung 51F5000 Full HD plasma and the Panasonic 50X60 HD-ready plasma. the 50X60 doesn't seem like a good value next to the 51F5000 though.
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #340 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 08:30 PM »
with the news from panasonic that they are shutting down their plasma tv production, does it mean it's no longer advisable to get a plasma tv nowadays?

addigital - Plasma is still the best PQ & if you are not concerned with the power requirements against an LCD go for it. Although Panasonic may be shutting down their plasma tv production there will still be support for some time. You may even get a bargain  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #341 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 08:36 PM »
you cant go wrong buying a plasma still the best unless if your planning to selling it in the future then you'll be having hard time in doing that(e.g. like me i've been posting my e8000 and its been a month already no takers upto now here in cebu) becoz most of the folks think that plasma is old technology, power hugger,burn-in issues, to much heat etc..etc..

Totally agree skooter, unfortunately unless others are like us they are uninformed & unaware of the advantages. I must admit since I have relocated from the UK to Cebu I have seen the tendency to believe 'cheap is good' that refers to running costs as well.
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #342 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 08:53 PM »
Sa tingin ko mahirap ibenta ang E8000 kasi mahal, kasi highest-end yon.   Kahit LED, pag highest-end, mahirap din ibenta.

Pag lower-end, madali lang ibenta kahit plasma o LED.  Mas mura kasi.

Yung old plasmas ko, unahan pa yung kamag-anak ko kahit Panasonics yon (which is a less desirable brand for non-enthusiasts).  Hindi na nga nakarating sa pdvd market place, benta agad.  Paano puro low-end lang yung mga TV ko.
actually okay lang sa akin kung walang takers for the meantime besides im enjoying this tv and i got it for free in the 1st place(company xma's raffle) ang reklamo kulang nitong e8000(64 inch.) is i can already feel the pain paying my monthly electric bills noong una sa 51e550(bininta ko na) ko 3.5k lang. Ang monthly ko ngayon(w/my e8000) umabot na halos 4 to 5k since im in cebu lang so having that consumption cost mataas nayan sa amin. so w/this sad news of panasonic lalo nag lest yung chance ko na mabenta itong dambuhalang tv nito. hehehehe...

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #343 on: Nov 03, 2013 at 10:39 PM »
64 incher pala.  Mahirap nga ibenta ang ganyang size.  Dapat presyong low-end 50 inch ang bigay para mabilisan ang pag dispose. 
 
I'm at ends between choosing the Samsung 51F5000 Full HD plasma and the Panasonic 50X60 HD-ready plasma. the 50X60 doesn't seem like a good value next to the 51F5000 though.

The choice is easy.  Get the 1080p. 

The newer 720p plasmas look terrible.  Even from 10 feet away, I can see vertical stripes caused by large interpixel distances. 

On older plasmas, even 480p looked OK.  These days, interpixel distances on 720p plasmas are unacceptable.  720p Sammy plasma also has it, but 720p Panny plasma is worse.
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #344 on: Nov 04, 2013 at 10:13 AM »
 a samsung plasma 2013 51 inch. F8500 w/ free high end samsung HTIB(HT-F6550) price offer is 94k ++
 a sony LED 2013 55 inch. W804a w/ free 250GB PS3 Slim price offer is 94k++

i cannot decide w/c one of these package has a great value but my thoughts is leaning on F8500 considering it's an award winning HDTV for 2013 but the sony package is hard to ignore too since we don't have a PS3 system in the house and the kids would love to have a PS3 btw barrister someone call me and would like to tsk my 64E8000 hopefully we could make a deal.

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #345 on: Nov 04, 2013 at 11:12 AM »
 
Good luck sa buyer sir.  Mabibili rin yan.

 
a samsung plasma 2013 51 inch. F8500 w/ free high end samsung HTIB(HT-F6550) price offer is 94k ++

Hindi na kasi uso ang HTiB kaya naka package na lang.  Ang dali pang masira ng mga HTiB na yan.  Blu-ray playback ang unang masisira.

Bibilib ako pag high end soundbar ang naka package. ;)

 
a sony LED 2013 55 inch. W804a w/ free 250GB PS3 Slim price offer is 94k++

... but the sony package is hard to ignore too since we don't have a PS3 system in the house and the kids would love to have a PS3 ...

Ayaw nila ng PS4?  8)
 
Seriously, don't indulge them.  Game consoles are time wasters that are not good for kids.  In their spare time, kids would be better off reading a good book or learning a musical instrument.
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #346 on: Nov 04, 2013 at 12:19 PM »
Am still gonna get a VT60,
hahabol ako talaga sa last batch ng plasma,...

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #347 on: Nov 04, 2013 at 12:26 PM »
sana maging locally available ang Panasonic S60, ST60, VT60, at ZT60.  ::)
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #348 on: Nov 04, 2013 at 11:15 PM »
Clarifications:
Is the 64F8000 a plasma and how much are you selling it for?

actually okay lang sa akin kung walang takers for the meantime besides im enjoying this tv and i got it for free in the 1st place(company xma's raffle) ang reklamo kulang nitong e8000(64 inch.) is i can already feel the pain paying my monthly electric bills noong una sa 51e550(bininta ko na) ko 3.5k lang. Ang monthly ko ngayon(w/my e8000) umabot na halos 4 to 5k since im in cebu lang so having that consumption cost mataas nayan sa amin. so w/this sad news of panasonic lalo nag lest yung chance ko na mabenta itong dambuhalang tv nito. hehehehe...

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #349 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 04:05 PM »
sana maging locally available ang Panasonic S60, ST60, VT60, at ZT60.  ::)

Ano ano bang panny plasma models ang available locally? sana ma experience ko to.. :(
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #350 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 04:16 PM »
sana maging locally available ang Panasonic S60, ST60, VT60, at ZT60.  ::)

ang mura sa ibang online stores, sana available dito sa ganun na price...  :'(
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #351 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 04:27 PM »
65vt60 sa lis is 230k

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #352 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 05:22 PM »
 
 
Panny 4K LED review, with comparisons to a low-end Panny plasma S64 1080p: 

 
New input, 4K resolution do not a great TV make
By David Katzmaier
 

4K LED vs. 1080p plasma

... No difference was visible in most of the shots. In fact, as I watched "Red 800" repeatedly, the number of scenes where I expected 4K to look better -- but it simply wasn't -- far surpassed those where I could see a difference.

... In many scenes its bright areas spilled over into adjacent dark areas noticeably, creating a distinct clouding effect and spoiling much of the impact its otherwise deep black levels conveyed -- in the robes of the evildoers (46:19) and throughout the Room of Requirement scenes, for example.

... In very dark areas I also detected a bit of a bluish cast, made more visible by the brighter black levels and blooming. Once again it wasn't major though, and much less obvious than I've seen on many other TVs.
 
Subjectively, colors on the WT600 lacked the level of punch and vibrancy I saw on many of the other TVs. That's mainly due, I presume, to its somewhat weaker black level performance, since deeper blacks always lead to purer, more saturated color.

... I showed the "Samsara" comparison using the three 65-inch sets to a lot of other viewers as well around the CNET office, and all agreed that the differences were subtle to nonexistent. They weren't able to pick out the 4K TVs until they walked right up to the screen -- close enough to see pixel structure on the 1080p plasma. For me, that distance is about 4 feet.

I tried a few other films on Blu-ray, including "Brave," a spectacularly detailed animated Pixar title, and the action-heavy "Skyfall," but in every case the only advantages in detail -- subtle and infrequent as they were -- were enjoyed by the 1080p TV.

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-tc-l65wt600/4505-6482_7-35827200.html


 
New high-end 1080p plasmas can do 1080 lines of motion resolution.  This 4K LED can only do 900 lines of motion resolution.

Bili na ng plasma habang meron pa...  :D
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #353 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 05:44 PM »
it's really sad na magiging ganito ang state ng plasma..hope they marketed it better para ma inform mga tao..samsung na lang pag asa natin nito..

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #354 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 07:04 PM »
if the 4k lcd panel would still not spark the consumer's interest then its bye bye tv bizness for both sony and panasonic.

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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #355 on: Nov 07, 2013 at 10:49 PM »
When I requested BB to show me the same HD NFL broadcast on the 4K Samsung and Panasonic, I thought he would hesitate but willingly did it.  But upon showing that there was no difference with the 1080p HDTVs, he had to immediately switch to the 4K demo material.  Mahirap ibenta if they don't show proper demos.

4K UHTV is simply too far ahead in technology compared to contents, especially that of TV broadcast.

 
Panny 4K LED review, with comparisons to a low-end Panny plasma S64 1080p: 
 
New input, 4K resolution do not a great TV make
By David Katzmaier
 
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #356 on: Nov 08, 2013 at 11:01 AM »
But upon showing that there was no difference with the 1080p HDTVs, he had to immediately switch to the 4K demo material.  Mahirap ibenta if they don't show proper demos.

4K UHTV is simply too far ahead in technology compared to contents, especially that of TV broadcast.

 
Kamusta sir ang 4K demo source on 4K Sammy vs 4K Panny?  Both good?

 
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On David Katzmaier's review, he used, among others, 4K demo material and played it on a 4K Redray player connected to a 4K Panny LED and 1080p Panny plasma, both 65 inchers:
     
 



The test consisted of playing the same content side by side on the WT600, a 65-inch 4K LED LCD TV, and the Panasonic TC-P65ST64, a 65-inch 1080p plasma TV. That content originated on a pair of Redray 4K video players -- professional-quality source devices, essentially hard drives with video outputs -- that play back the proprietary, high-bit-rate Redcode Raw codec. One was connected to the WT600 and outputting 4K (at 4,096x2,060 pixels, so scaled somewhat by the WT600), while the other was connected to the S64 and downconverting that same 4K footage to 1080p.
 http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-tc-l65wt600/4505-6482_7-35827200.html

Hindi pa rin bumilib si Katzmaier sa 4K LED.

 
Sayang, kung may 4K plasma vs. 1080p plasma shootout,  yun sana ang maganda.  Kaya lang, malabo nang magkaroon ng 4K plasma.
 
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #357 on: Nov 08, 2013 at 11:04 AM »

Sayang, kung may 4K plasma vs. 1080p plasma shootout,  yun sana ang maganda.  Kaya lang, malabo nang magkaroon ng 4K plasma.
 

meron! Panasonic's 152 inch plasma: http://www.panasonic.com/business/plasma/3d/3d-plasma-th-152ux1.asp
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #358 on: Nov 08, 2013 at 11:18 AM »
Wala, sir.  Umorder ako, wala daw e... (Joke  :D )

 
Seriously, kahit prototype sa CES 2013 and IFA 2013 wala silang display na 4K plasma.  May professional model sa website, pero order basis siguro.  Palagay ko wala namang umorder. 

Ngayon pa na hinto na ang plasma nila, wala na talaga.
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Re: Plasma 2013
« Reply #359 on: Nov 08, 2013 at 01:43 PM »
Eyeing for the 65vt60 as well. Hopefully before end of year.  ;D