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newwaveboy · « **Reply #1140 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 10:46 AM »

Quote from: boredfilmmaker on Aug 31, 2012 at 10:31 AM

judging by the moves of SMC these past few years, it's obvious that Danding is no longer a big part of the SMC basketball program.. Ramon Ang and Eala na talaga yan..

Yup ..... it's RSA at the helm of SMC.

However, I assure you that the business & sports culture of "eating everything in sight" & "winning at all costs" ..... it's all handed-down from Danding.

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Hontiveros really has little place nowadays in PETRON ...... the shopping spree este trade that SMC did last season, to get Lutz, Lassiter & even Duncil (got from AIR21 for nothing) assures them of prime SG's for this decade.

They also have Yeo, Miranda & blue-chip rookie Mallari.

Good for Hontiveros to get traded to a team with little SG depth ..... he'll get some minutes, which is the lifeblood for players who truly love the sport.

wengkapre · « **Reply #1141 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 01:24 PM »

pa o.t.

HEAT Bulaga ako dito !

-sniper- · « **Reply #1142 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 02:59 PM »

PBA Office of the Commissioner APPROVED TRADES as of August 31, 2012: 1. BARAKO - GINEBRA trade: a. BARAKO acquired the rights to Enrico Villanueva, b. GINEBRA acquired the rights to Willie Miller; 2. GINEBRA - GLOBAL PORT trade: a. GINEBRA acquired JV Casio, b. GLOBAL PORT acquired the rights to Willie Miller plus GINEBRA'S 2014 1st rd pick; 3. ALASKA - GINEBRA trade: a. ALASKA acquired the rights to JV Casio plus GINEBRA'S 2015 2nd rd pick, b. GINEBRA acquired the rights to LA Tenorio; 4. ALASKA - PETRON trade: a. ALASKA acquired the rights to Dondon Hontiveros, b. PETRON acquired the rights to Wesley Gonzales and Hans Paul Thiele

i don't see the name of mike cortez.....

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #1143 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 03:02 PM »

^Mataas na talaga market value ni JV Casio... Willie Miller plus 1st rd draft pick

mikz023 · « **Reply #1144 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 03:09 PM »

Tsk tsk..sayang...too late!

http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/too-late-for-smc-players-to-join-smart-gilas-in-japan-says-chot-reyes

Onkyo606 · « **Reply #1145 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 03:20 PM »

former MVP tapos palagi na lang na trade tsk tsk tsk, kung san saan na napunta si miller.

rony · « **Reply #1146 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 03:40 PM »

Me pag ka KAMOTE pala itong si noli at ramon ang.

"We can't act on something that is never there in the first place. But again, let me make it clear that if the players will tell me that they want to play for the national team, we wouldn't be a stumbling block. There is no point of stopping these players from playing for the national team,"

"You're not just talking to a team manager here, because they simply have to let RSA (Ang) know of their intention. If any of our players would come to us and tell us they want to play for Gilas, fine, we'll just tell them to show me a letter of request so we can make the necessary move," said Eala.

ma ka-karma yun buong smc team pag ganyan sila ng ganyan.

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #1147 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 03:52 PM »

susunod na rin daw si Big J sa Ginebra... PG ha, hindi coach..

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1148 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 05:27 PM »

Massive 5-day trade in the PBA .....

** ALASKA comes out a winner ..... Steven Uytengsu frowns upon players washing dirty laundry in public - like what Tenorio did after the Jones Cup win. Uytengsu has shown many times, that he wont hesitate to trade players if they malign his company in any way.

ALASKA basically made the most from a bad situation ..... they lose Tenorio & a few scrubs, but gains a great young PG in Casio plus Hontiveros (ALASKA has long been shallow in the SG position).

** BGK comes out a winner ..... somewhat.

They lose E. Villanueva - a player who has long been groping for form (after leaving Yeng Guiao) ..... but gains a top PG in Tenorio.

Only question now ..... they have 3 lead PG's in Tenorio, Cortez & Helterbrand ..... they also have reliever PG Labagala ..... Caguioa also plays PG on occasion ...... plus, they drafted 4 PG's from the recent rookie draft !

Is Team Manager Samboy Lim planning to start a security agency ?! ...... seriously, I think Cortez will be traded away soon.

** PETRON is a winner, since they got what they needed the most ..... unload players to ensure minutes for their young core of SG's in Lutz, Lassiter, Mallari, Yeo, Duncil & even Miranda.

Wesgon & Thiele will likely end up with their ABL team ..... to be used for future lopsided deals with Bert Lina teams.

** GLOBAL PORT ..... what where they thinking when they made this trade?

JV Casio is a franchise PG ..... they trade him away for an aged, nervous-wreck-in-the-4th quarter Willie Miller.

It's unlikely that they get a franchise player with the 2014 pick they got, since BGK will surely place high in the year-end standings ...... besides, by 2014, projected blue-chippers Slaughter, Banchero & Pringle are already set to be taken by either ROS or an SMC team.

** BARAKO BULL ...... no true fan of the sport, should pay attention to what Bert Lina does with trades and picks.

-sniper- · « **Reply #1149 on:** Aug 31, 2012 at 08:19 PM »

Quote from: Onkyo606 on Aug 31, 2012 at 03:20 PM

former MVP tapos palagi na lang na trade tsk tsk tsk, kung san saan na napunta si miller.

I have never been impressed by miller's two mvp awards....he won both when the superstars of the league were on the national team.

wengkapre · « **Reply #1150 on:** Sep 01, 2012 at 06:27 AM »

Quote from: -sniper- on Aug 31, 2012 at 08:19 PM

I have never been impressed by miller's two mvp awards....he won both when the superstars of the league were on the national team.

exactly

LA- trade bait for a Legit Center?

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1151 on:** Sep 01, 2012 at 07:37 AM »

SMC management has long been kicking itself for giving up LA Tenorio years ago ..... Tenorio has been one of the top PG's for some time now, BGK will probably keep him this time.

BGK now has 4 PG's in their active roster (Tenorio, Cortez, Helterbrand & Labagala) ...... plus 4 PG's from the rookie draft (Canada, Zamar, Buensuceso & Tan) ..... I think it's Cortez who will be moved to clear the logjam.

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Is Mikee Romero out to make GLOBAL PORT a competitive PBA franchise .... or just ca$h-in, just like Bert Lina & George Chua?

GLOBAL PORT's recent transactions might provide some answers.

OUT = Sean Anthony & JV Casio
IN = Vic Manuel & Willie Miller (plus a low 2014 1st round pick)

Notes:
Sean Anthony was used as trade conduit, with blue-chip rookie Aldrech Ramos ending up with an SMC team ..... Anthony himself winds up with BARAKO (SMC-owned company .... fronted as a Lina franchise).

JV Casio was used as trade conduit, with LA Tenorio ending up with an SMC team.

rony · « **Reply #1152 on:** Sep 01, 2012 at 08:47 AM »

Wala itong global port na ito kala ko pa naman palalakasin nila yun roster nila.

JV casio pinalit lang ke miller.

onepaks · « **Reply #1153 on:** Sep 01, 2012 at 10:00 AM »

Yes bgk has three pg but JJ is not the player he use to be. Age and injuries have been catching up on him. He's a third stringer at best at this point in his career. Mike Cortez can start and still a good player. But he's no LA Tenorio. LA is clearly better than him. Cortez will be better off backing him up. Can we say best point guard tandem in the league? And please don't get me started on little Rob. He's a third stringer at best and I'd rather have JJ for that role than him. If you're depending in Rob to play significant minutes, boy you're team is in trouble.

True that they lost a big man and they have no decent center right now. Menk is unsigned, old and injury prone. Just like JJ, third stringer right now. Mamaril is a career backup. He can't handle being full time starter. PRM is too thin and so is Kirby. Losing EVIl hurts but not that much. He's not the same player anymore. He's not the raging bill he once was. He's more of a important backup now. It only hurts losing him because bgk doesn't have a center yet to replace him. So they need one. But of you look player for player trade, Bgk is the winner here. Losing a backup center who occasionally can start and clearly on the downside of his career for a young clutch starting point guard whose proven to carry his team? That's good.

Now ginebra has to get a center. Not necessary a superstar. Just serviceable. They have to use Espiritu, Wilson and maybe Jensen to get one. Perhaps Kramer? Or maybe getting Enrico back?

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1154 on:** Sep 01, 2012 at 10:50 AM »

^ I was referring to purely headcount (re: BGK's PG situation) ..... they have 4 PG's signed to contracts - Tenorio, Cortez, Helterbrand & Labagala ..... plus 4 PG's from the recent rookie draft.

Regardless of capabilities, one of the signed PG's has to go ...... I think it will be Cortez, since he is still serviceable and will be a far better trade bait than Labagala (e.g. GLOBAL PORT likes Cortez ..... Franz Pumaren would love to have his old PG with AIR21).

I think it will be ultimately Kramer, who'll be sold este traded back to BGK ...... we've seen this kind of MO from Bert Lina, many times before.

puffalan84 · « **Reply #1155 on:** Sep 02, 2012 at 09:26 AM »

^Global Port is another SMC team, bumebwelo pa for next year..

ivannn · « **Reply #1156 on:** Sep 03, 2012 at 01:44 PM »

yung mga MVP teams, no movements lately?

♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ · « **Reply #1157 on:** Sep 03, 2012 at 01:52 PM »

^
Meralco acquired Ronjay Buenafe from RoS

ivannn · « **Reply #1158 on:** Sep 03, 2012 at 02:39 PM »

Quote from: Louie_18 on Sep 03, 2012 at 01:52 PM

^
Meralco acquired Ronjay Buenafe from RoS

i see. approved na ba? last week kasi eh parang under negotiations pa lang.

-sniper- · « **Reply #1159 on:** Sep 04, 2012 at 02:37 PM »

another rumor circulating --- JR Reyes and Asi Taulava for Billy Mamaril and Willy Wilson

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1160 on:** Sep 04, 2012 at 02:54 PM »

Quote from: -sniper- on Sep 04, 2012 at 02:37 PM

another rumor circulating --- JR Reyes and Asi Taulava for Billy Mamaril and Willy Wilson

Taulava possibly playing for BGK would be a box-office hit ..... even at his age, he is still very much serviceable and is still an attraction.

With Villanueva's departure and Menk's impending transfer to the ABL, they need bigs before the 2nd conference.

For some reason, Taulava and MERALCO cant agree to a new deal ..... I'm thinking that Taulava still wants the max contract (350K not the newer 420K), while MERALCO is likely offering lower.

There's only a handful of traditional bigs in the PBA ..... so I guess, Taulava deserves the above average pay.

ivannn · « **Reply #1161 on:** Sep 05, 2012 at 01:07 PM »

Quote from: newwaveboy on Sep 04, 2012 at 02:54 PM

Taulava possibly playing for BGK would be a box-office hit ..... even at his age, he is still very much serviceable and is still an attraction.

With Villanueva's departure and Menk's impending transfer to the ABL, they need bigs before the 2nd conference.

For some reason, Taulava and MERALCO cant agree to a new deal ..... I'm thinking that Taulava still wants the max contract (350K not the newer 420K), while MERALCO is likely offering lower.

There's only a handful of traditional bigs in the PBA ..... so I guess, Taulava deserves the above average pay.

Taulava is a good citizen and a good team player. Sana he ends up in a BGK uniform soon.

wengkapre · « **Reply #1162 on:** Sep 05, 2012 at 05:26 PM »

Quote from: ivannn on Sep 05, 2012 at 01:07 PM

Taulava is a good citizen and a good team player. Sana he ends up in a BGK uniform soon.

+1 for Taulava going to BGK, pag natuloy, kumpletos-recados na

, yun nga lang wag na sana masama sa trade si W. Wilson

ivannn · « **Reply #1163 on:** Sep 06, 2012 at 09:09 AM »

Quote from: wengkapre on Sep 05, 2012 at 05:26 PM

+1 for Taulava going to BGK, pag natuloy, kumpletos-recados na , yun nga lang wag na sana masama sa trade si W. Wilson

should BGK get Taulava, make sure lang nila na he is motivated enough na he stays in tip top shape. there are times kasi na wala sa fighting condition siya eh.

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #1164 on:** Sep 06, 2012 at 09:53 AM »

Asi playing for any team in the PBA other than Meralco seems like a long shot now.. they offered him a 2-year deal with max salary and he declined.. no way the MVP group is just going to let him go without getting someone in return.. a trade is the only way but since he's already declined a contract, he can't be traded.. sa ABL na siya mapupunta and from what his agent has been saying, mukhang team-up na talaga sila ni Menk sa San Miguel..

I would have loved to see Asi, Menk and Danny Seigle play for Barako this season.. last hurrah ng mga Fil-Foreigners na nagpabago sa PBA..

ivannn · « **Reply #1165 on:** Sep 06, 2012 at 10:21 AM »

Quote from: boredfilmmaker on Sep 06, 2012 at 09:53 AM

Asi playing for any team in the PBA other than Meralco seems like a long shot now.. they offered him a 2-year deal with max salary and he declined.. no way the MVP group is just going to let him go without getting someone in return.. a trade is the only way but since he's already declined a contract, he can't be traded.. sa ABL na siya mapupunta and from what his agent has been saying, mukhang team-up na talaga sila ni Menk sa San Miguel..

I would have loved to see Asi, Menk and Danny Seigle play for Barako this season.. last hurrah ng mga Fil-Foreigners na nagpabago sa PBA..

+1 and a comeback as well for Andy Seigle =P

newwaveboy · « **Reply #1166 on:** Sep 11, 2012 at 11:44 AM »

It looks like Japeth Aguilar is done with the PBA ..... for now.

His contract with TnT has expired ..... he has since been trying out for a spot in the NBA D-League.

Recent news indicate that he'll be granted a workout, for a possible slot with the SAN ANTONIO Spurs training camp.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/223432/Spurs_To_Workout_Japeth_Aguilar

Good for Aguilar for following his NBA dream ..... he played behind a solid & winning crew under TnT - didn't get much playing time.

He's a longshot to make it to an NBA roster ..... however, training camp/summer league might be a doable target - much lesser & older players have been known to get perennial invites to these camps.

Who knows, Aguilar is yet to reach his prime ..... he is still 6-9 with good hops ..... also helps that he has some NCAA background.

The pedigree of the SPURS organization might be the spur (pun intended) he needs to realize his potential.

-sniper- · « **Reply #1167 on:** Sep 24, 2012 at 10:09 AM »

Trade Rumor:
James Ryan Sena , Rob Reyes and 1 second round pick for Willy Wilson, Rob Labagala and Billy Mamaril

ivannn · « **Reply #1168 on:** Sep 24, 2012 at 10:15 AM »

Quote from: -sniper- on Sep 24, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Trade Rumor:
James Ryan Sena , Rob Reyes and 1 second round pick for Willy Wilson, Rob Labagala and Billy Mamaril

what do you guys think of this trade? personally, sana wag include si willy wilson sa trade. sayang kasi energy player din yan eh. undersized yet effective to play with the bigs.

boredfilmmaker · « **Reply #1169 on:** Sep 24, 2012 at 10:44 AM »

luging lugi Air21 if ever.. Sena was great in his rookie year last year.. masipag at walang ere maglaro.. siya lang yung consistent sa Air21 last year.. and he's a lot younger than Wilson and Mamaril.. Wilson and Mamaril are role players at best, pati si Labagala (who, IIRC, has been relegated to the SMB ABL Team already).. they barely even got minutes these past few seasons.. Sena has the potential to be a solid starting center..

parang wish list 'to ng isang Ginebra fan than a tangible trade proposal.. but I could be wrong..