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Entertainment => Film & TV Talk => Television => Topic started by: -sniper- on Oct 02, 2011 at 05:49 PM
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the opening ceremonies was good. ginebra still appears to be the crowd favorite. as the slogan of the pba goes -- kampihan na! kanino kayo?
i hope this thread will be active...
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si tim cone bigla lumipat ng ibang team, bakit kaya? more than 2 decades na siya sa alaska eh
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undercover agent ni Uytengsu si Tim Cone.. kukuha sila ng ebidensya na may gulangan at dayaan nga na nangyayari sa salary cap ng mga mayayamang teams.. ;D ;D ;D
parang MVP league na talaga ang PBA.. yung coveror, TV5.. halos lahat ng sponsor company ni MVP.. may sarili pang spiel yung TNT sa introduction ng muses.. tapos na yung SMC era ng PBA..
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personally, i think tim cone's move involved money.
parang MVP league na talaga ang PBA.. yung coveror, TV5.. halos lahat ng sponsor company ni MVP.. may sarili pang spiel yung TNT sa introduction ng muses.. tapos na yung SMC era ng PBA..
noticed that spiel too. and yes, the SMC era is over, even if they have 4 teams in the pba.
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choker pa rin si Intal! ;D pero ayos yung habol ng Ginebra ha.. walang Caguioa, Helterbrand o kaya Tubid sa loob.. iba rin talaga si Paul Lee.. mabilis yung 1st step at kayang-kaya lumusot sa double team..
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yeah...he could have brought the game to overtime. but it was a good run, even without the big names. na-pressure din kahit papano ung ROS. malaki potential ng mga young guns ng ginebra. yup, paul lee is good. he played like he was not a rookie. bad trip lang talaga si quinito! wala nang alam sabihin kundi si paul lee. >:(
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nice to see Janelle So back in the PBA.. she looked stunning tonight.. she's was one of the better court side reporters in the league.. her return kind of highlighted how awful the new ones are right now.. at least they're pretty though..
and Tim Cone lost his debut as a non-Alaska coach.. they lost to a team that had more assistant coaches than bench players.. ;D
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and Tim Cone lost his debut as a non-Alaska coach.. they lost to a team that had more assistant coaches than bench players.. ;D
not surprising,b meg players has yet to fully learn tim cone's system plus the fact that they faced a newly crowned team in petron.
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^a bit surprising considering the talent they have.. they could have won it by sheer talent alone.. and it's not the same Petron team that won the last conference.. almost half of that championship team is gone..
I don't actually think B-Meg has the right lineup for Tim Cone or for the triangle.. too much star power.. it feels like they'll go one-on-one when the going gets tough..
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not surprising,b meg players has yet to fully learn tim cone's system plus the fact that they faced a newly crowned team in petron.
it takes time to adjust, better lose early and start winning when it counted most.
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nice to see Janelle So back in the PBA.. she looked stunning tonight.. she's was one of the better court side reporters in the league.. her return kind of highlighted how awful the new ones are right now.. at least they're pretty though..
janelle is back? darn!! i missed last night's games. pina-opera namin doggie ng sister ko. bumuka kasi ung tahi from, believe it or not, caesarian operation last week. :o :o the new ones are, indeed, awful. but, yes, they are pretty. erika has nice bumpers, too. ;D i wish they could get lia cruz back also...
anyway, yes, it is a surprise that b-meg lost to petron. on paper, b-meg is strong. add to that a very good coach. but b-meg is playing under a new system. perhaps they have not adjusted to it yet. it'll take time. medyo matagal din bago napag-champion ni cone ang alaska.
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Great 2nd game last night .... But just had to chuckle at one point during the BMEG-PETRON game.
Chris Lutz was beasting during the 2nd half, when Jason Webb commented that PETRON was very lucky to land high-pick rookies such as Lutz .... Webb then proceeded to mention sophomores Al-Hussaini, Baclao & Guevarra (2010's top 3 picks) .... Magoo then jumped in & mentioned Arwind Santos & Jay Washington - both of whom were high draft picks as well.
Afterwards, both commentators went silent for a while .... it's likely that they had realized that all those they mentioned were players "traded" by Bert Lina's AIR21 pimp team through the years (they even failed to mention Alex Cabagnot, who was also "traded" by AIR21 to then SMB).
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^a bit surprising considering the talent they have.. they could have won it by sheer talent alone.. and it's not the same Petron team that won the last conference.. almost half of that championship team is gone..
I don't actually think B-Meg has the right lineup for Tim Cone or for the triangle.. too much star power.. it feels like they'll go one-on-one when the going gets tough..
the key players from that championship team is still there,arwind,cabagnot,miranda and yeo.they also got good acquisition in sharma and lutz.it's too early to tell if the triangle offense won't fit for b-meg,it's only been weeks since tim cone took over the coaching job.and yes,those one on one plays killed b meg in the end siguro instinct na nung mga players yun since that's the way they played before but it is bound to change with coach tim.
b meg could have won it with sheer talent alone against a lower seeded teams but not against petron who is coming off a morale boosting championship.actually i'm a bit surprised that petron won by only four points considering that b meg's plays is in disarray most of the times especially in the second half.
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janelle is back? darn!! i missed last night's games. pina-opera namin doggie ng sister ko. bumuka kasi ung tahi from, believe it or not, caesarian operation last week. :o :o the new ones are, indeed, awful. but, yes, they are pretty. erika has nice bumpers, too. ;D i wish they could get lia cruz back also...
not really back in full.. she was just a guest host last night.. she flies back to the US tomorrow..
I don't like the coverage team this season.. from the court side reporters to the panelists.. the commissioner's rule to bar assistant coaches from commentating is disappointing.. Ronnie Magsanoc, Richard Del Rosario and Alex Compton are better than Quinito.. ang bland ng coverage kung wala si Mico Halili or Jason Webb on the panel.. sila lang yung matino ngayon for me..
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the key players from that championship team is still there,arwind,cabagnot,miranda and yeo.they also got good acquisition in sharma and lutz.it's too early to tell if the triangle offense won't fit for b-meg,it's only been weeks since tim cone took over the coaching job.and yes,those one on one plays killed b meg in the end siguro instinct na nung mga players yun since that's the way they played before but it is bound to change with coach tim.
b meg could have won it with sheer talent alone against a lower seeded teams but not against petron who is coming off a morale boosting championship.actually i'm a bit surprised that petron won by only four points considering that b meg's plays is in disarray most of the times especially in the second half.
Oh it will work with B-Meg eventually but what I see is a potential Kobe/Shaq relationship than a Jordan/Pippen one.. I just don't see James, Kerby, Devance and PJ Simon coexisting in one team.. they all just need the ball too much to contribute..
and Petron winning by only four points even though nagkalat yung B-Meg just tells you how talented B-Meg is..
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Great 2nd game last night .... But just had to chuckle at one point during the BMEG-PETRON game.
Chris Lutz was beasting during the 2nd half, when Jason Webb commented that PETRON was very lucky to land high-pick rookies such as Lutz .... Webb then proceeded to mention sophomores Al-Hussaini, Baclao & Guevarra (2010's top 3 picks) .... Magoo then jumped in & mentioned Arwind Santos & Jay Washington - both of whom were high draft picks as well.
Afterwards, both commentators went silent for a while .... it's likely that they had realized that all those they mentioned were players "traded" by Bert Lina's AIR21 pimp team through the years (they even failed to mention Alex Cabagnot, who was also "traded" by AIR21 to then SMB).
Air 21 if i may consider is just a talent pool for the other PBA teams. They're merely selling their talents and isnt really serious to compete for the pretigious PBA CROWN.
Speaking of commentators, i rather have Wacky Thrillo than Quinito Henson.
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not really back in full.. she was just a guest host last night.. she flies back to the US tomorrow..
oh...crap!!! >:( ;D
I don't like the coverage team this season.. from the court side reporters to the panelists.. the commissioner's rule to bar assistant coaches from commentating is disappointing.. Ronnie Magsanoc, Richard Del Rosario and Alex Compton are better than Quinito.. ang bland ng coverage kung wala si Mico Halili or Jason Webb on the panel.. sila lang yung matino ngayon for me..
si quinito ang dapat pagbawalan maging commentator. masyadong magaling eh. all knowing.
mico and jason are good. very lively ang discussion, never a dull moment. at hindi pa nagmamagaling.
Oh it will work with B-Meg eventually but what I see is a potential Kobe/Shaq relationship than a Jordan/Pippen one.. I just don't see James, Kerby, Devance and PJ Simon coexisting in one team.. they all just need the ball too much to contribute..
and Petron winning by only four points even though nagkalat yung B-Meg just tells you how talented B-Meg is..
agree. it will work, but not yet at this time. as i've said above, it'll take time for the team to adjust to the new system. agree also on the patential kobe/shaq rather than a jordan/pippen relationship. personally, i think none of the four names mentioned from b-meg is willing to play a support role. walang pippen sa kanila who knows his place in the team -- support to the main man (jordan).
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hopefully magawa din sa pba yung fiba style of officiating like sa mga fouls (i.e.intentional foul agad sa mga breakaway plays na obvious naman na di bola ang hinabol etc.)
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Air 21 if i may consider is just a talent pool for the other PBA teams. They're merely selling their talents and isnt really serious to compete for the pretigious PBA CROWN.
Speaking of commentators, i rather have Wacky Thrillo than Quinito Nenson.
To be very specific, AIR21 is the PBA's resident pimp who sells their talents to mostly SMC teams.
It's so effin blatant, that one can only shake his head in disgust.
Yes, I too recall Joaqui Trillo being a decent commentator many years ago ...... Quinito Henson is half-decent, just because he was there since the latter part of the golden years (Joe Cantada, Pinggoy Pengson, etc).
Quinito also does seem to love the job, which explains his lively demeanor ..... however the man is practically inept with the technical aspects of the game - hence his game analysis is always shallow & uber-simplistic (always just pertaining to the vey obvious).
Let's just say I would rather choose Quinito Henson over loudmouth fools like Chino Trinidad, Rado Dimalibot, ec ...... Chino Trinidad was easily the worst commentator in the history of the PBA.
Probably, the only thing worse than Chino Trinidad covering a PBA game, is GMA's Mike Enriquez covering a PBA game.
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Let's just say I would rather choose Quinito Henson over loudmouth fools like Chino Trinidad, Rado Dimalibot, ec ...... Chino Trinidad was easily the worst commentator in the history of the PBA.
Probably, the only thing worse than Chino Trinidad covering a PBA game, is GMA's Mike Enriquez covering a PBA game.
totally agree with this.. I remember him covering that 2002 Asian Games at kulang na lang murahin niya yung mga players on live TV..
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To be very specific, AIR21 is the PBA's resident pimp who sells their talents to mostly SMC teams.
It's so effin blatant, that one can only shake his head in disgust.
They also sold some to TNT.
Pretty obvious isnt it but the league doesnt mind so what can we do?
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i thought manonood na ulit ako ng PBA kse bumalik na si jannelle so kaso one time lang pala kaya no more PBA for me na talaga.
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the game on wednesday will be interesting -- b-meg vs. alaska. cone will be up against his former team. i'm sure banal knows practically all the trick that cone has under his sleeves being his assistant for a very long time. but i'm sure cone would also have some other tricks in mind. triangle vs. triangle? or will cone refrain from using the triangle knowing that banal would know how to neutralize it?
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http://sports.inquirer.net/20045/norman-black-to-talk-'n-text-chot-reyes-to-smart-gilas-five
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yahoo panalo bmeg ko hehehe
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time-out muna.. their reporting skills are below par but they're easy on the eyes.. ;D
from left to right: Erika Padilla, Sel Guevarra and Jessica Mendoza..
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^sino sir ung nasa kanan?
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^sino sir ung nasa kanan?
from left to right: Erika Padilla, Sel Guevarra and Jessica Mendoza..
Jessica was Ateneo's courtside reporter 2 seasons ago.. she's a DJ at Magic yata.. she has a program together with Andi Manzano.. nasa CGE TV rin yata siya.. yung sa Channel 72 sa SkyCable..
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Erika Padilla needs to go ...... or the very least, get some remedial classes very soon.
The girl obviously knows little about basketball & worst of all, she has the tendency to blabber - often messing up her lines & deliveries during sideline reports.
That mannish-voice somewhat turns me off as well. ;D
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Erika Padilla needs to go ...... or the very least, get some remedial classes very soon.
The girl obviously knows little about basketball & worst of all, she has the tendency to blabber - often messing up her lines & deliveries during sideline reports.
That mannish-voice somewhat turns me off as well. ;D
I agree with you.. she's the worst of the 3.. halata mong wala talagang alam about the game and even the players she's interviewing.. they should just get Lia Cruz since she's with TV5 rin naman..
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Erika Padilla needs to go ...... or the very least, get some remedial classes very soon.
but she has a good set of bumpers. that's why i don't listen to her. i just stare at her package. ;D ;D ;D
they should just get Lia Cruz since she's with TV5 rin naman..
that would be a good move! ;D
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impressive performances by this season's rookies.. nakakailang game na rin na rookie ang best player of the game.. parang passing of the torch na.. interestingly, Ginebra has been on the receiving end of two impressive debuts by this season's rookies.. Paul Lee killed them against Rain or Shine tapos Dylan Ababou naman ngayon..
really impressed with Lutz, Ababou, Baracael and Lee.. Lutz is the all-around type.. high basketball IQ, great defender, quick hands, quick first step and decent outside shot.. Ababou is deceptively quick.. maganda rin yung lateral movement at mabilis yung kamay.. nice to see him finally getting some minutes.. and lucky for him and Maliksi that almost all of their teammates are veterans.. mas mabilis sila matututo.. Paul Lee has to work more on his outside shots.. nahirapan siya kanina against TNT kasi di siya makasaksak.. if he makes those outside shots consistently, mas magiging mahirap siya bantayan..
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impressive performances by this season's rookies.. nakakailang game na rin na rookie ang best player of the game.. parang passing of the torch na.. interestingly, Ginebra has been on the receiving end of two impressive debuts by this season's rookies.. Paul Lee killed them against Rain or Shine tapos Dylan Ababou naman ngayon..
really impressed with Lutz, Ababou, Baracael and Lee.. Lutz is the all-around type.. high basketball IQ, great defender, quick hands, quick first step and decent outside shot.. Ababou is deceptively quick.. maganda rin yung lateral movement at mabilis yung kamay.. nice to see him finally getting some minutes.. and lucky for him and Maliksi that almost all of their teammates are veterans.. mas mabilis sila matututo.. Paul Lee has to work more on his outside shots.. nahirapan siya kanina against TNT kasi di siya makasaksak.. if he makes those outside shots consistently, mas magiging mahirap siya bantayan..
except for LEE, i think the Gilas Players should be impressive otherwise sayang un devotion nila sa national Team for 3 years.
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observation ko lang on the games, masyado ata nagiging low scoring ang mga laban...
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I agree with you.. she's the worst of the 3.. halata mong wala talagang alam about the game and even the players she's interviewing.. they should just get Lia Cruz since she's with TV5 rin naman..
Correct me if I'm wrong but the games are being aired at channel 13 and not channel 5!
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meron pa bang nanonood ng pba?
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the games are being aired at channel 13 and not channel 5!
Yes... It is being aired at Channel 13 however, the PBA Games are being aired thru AKTV (block schedule na binili nila MVP) and with it eh related business din like TV5 so in a way eh pwede mag share ng resources at capabilities including manpower if there is the need. A suggestion of having Lia Cruz is possible since di naman siguro tulad ng ABS-CBN at GMA7 ang tv5 (i think) na puro mga exclusive contracts ang mga talents.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but the games are being aired at channel 13 and not channel 5!
AKTV on IBC is the sports arm of TV5.. parang Studio 23 ng ABS.. their court side reporters are actually TV5 talents so it's possible for them to get Lia Cruz.. but I think Lia is moving away from sports broadcasting and is concentrating on the news..
parang the shift has started in the PBA.. new stars are emerging at unti-unti na nilang kinukuha ang PBA.. Paul Lee, Chris Lutz and Dylan Ababou have been taking over their teams..
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Yes... It is being aired at Channel 13 however, the PBA Games are being aired thru AKTV (block schedule na binili nila MVP) and with it eh related business din like TV5 so in a way eh pwede mag share ng resources at capabilities including manpower if there is the need. A suggestion of having Lia Cruz is possible since di naman siguro tulad ng ABS-CBN at GMA7 ang tv5 (i think) na puro mga exclusive contracts ang mga talents.
AKTV on IBC is the sports arm of TV5.. parang Studio 23 ng ABS.. their court side reporters are actually TV5 talents so it's possible for them to get Lia Cruz.. but I think Lia is moving away from sports broadcasting and is concentrating on the news..
parang the shift has started in the PBA.. new stars are emerging at unti-unti na nilang kinukuha ang PBA.. Paul Lee, Chris Lutz and Dylan Ababou have been taking over their teams..
Thanks for the clarification.
The coverage, as a whole, needs to improve, not only the court-side reporters.
Paul Lee is lucky he has Yeng Guiao as his coach. Guiao will field in Lee as long as he plays his heart out every game. But once Lee starts acting like a superstar, his playing time will decrease. Chris Lutz plays the same position and basically the same way as Dondon Hontiveros. If Hontiveros did not get injured, then Lutz's playing time would be less. Dylan Ababou gets to play more minutes as Danny Seigle is again injured.
The veterans have not yet gotten used to the playing styles of these new stars. But once the veterans get used to them, these veterans will find ways to stop these new stars. What I'm hoping for is that these rookies influence the veterans to change their playing styles from just standing around to constant motion. This will make the games faster and more exciting!
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meron pa bang nanonood ng pba?
meron pa naman, sir. although i can say na hindi kasing dami nung dati. dati kasi, it's all the teams against each other. ngayon, parang MVP vs SMC na ang PBA.
but I think Lia is moving away from sports broadcasting and is concentrating on the news..
sayang naman... :P
parang the shift has started in the PBA.. new stars are emerging at unti-unti na nilang kinukuha ang PBA.. Paul Lee, Chris Lutz and Dylan Ababou have been taking over their teams..
agree. i'm sure JV Casio will be in that list soon.
this year's rookie draft is full of talents. it's just up to the coaches to utilize them properly. look at dylan, he was not used a lot sa gilas and did not make much impact. but with his new team, he is able to show what he's got.
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Ginebra has made a habit of bringing to life that never-say-die attitude in their last 2 games.. Down 5 points against Powerade with 55 sec left and yet they still manage to win on a putback by Caguioa with 1.2 secs left.. tapos kahapon naman deja vu.. down 5 with 55secs left against Shopinas and they still get to force overtime and get the win..
on another note naman, idol na idol ko sa mga rookies si Dylan Ababou.. magaling siya pero mas bilib ako sa kanya dahil dito: ;D
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yeah...the last two games were come from behind victories, literally. in fact, in the game against shopinas, some of the crowd were already congratulating the manager of the team with around 55 ticks left. and then JJ struck them with a three that sent the game into OT.
shopinas clickers generates a lot of interest for me. given time, i think they can be a contender. they have no legit superstar. their line-up is composed mainly of bench warmers of other teams, but are also talented. duncil, razul, espiritu and ritualo to name a few. it could be blessing or a curse to them. it's up to them to use it to their advantage. but last night's game showed their immaturity.
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Shopinas' Assistant Coach is Cholo Villanueva right? pwede pa naman siya maglaro kung gusto niya at least be another role player in the team to fill in spot minutes when needed.
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Shopinas' Assistant Coach is Cholo Villanueva right? pwede pa naman siya maglaro kung gusto niya at least be another role player in the team to fill in spot minutes when needed.
yun nga problema nila eh.. lahat ng player nila eh role players.. wala silang go-to-guy.. yun naging problema nila kahapon against Ginebra.. wala silang mapuntahan at crunch time and they missed pressure-packed free throws.. malas rin sila kasi they didn't have the luxury of elevating players from the amateur ranks when they entered the league.. no worries for them though.. they tank this season and they would most likely get the top pick next year.. if Slaughter and Fajardo enter the next draft, maganda yung pagpipilian nila..
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maybe yun ang ready nila, the #1 pick for next year. for go-to-guy this season, they should try to trade for a veteran player to hold them together pag crunch time na.
pero i doubt if fajardo will even join the pba. mukhang sa ABL sasali yun for SMC team.
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maybe yun ang ready nila, the #1 pick for next year. for go-to-guy this season, they should try to trade for a veteran player to hold them together pag crunch time na.
pero i doubt if fajardo will even join the pba. mukhang sa ABL sasali yun for SMC team.
he has signed up na for SMB sa ABL but I think they're arranging it so that one of their 3 teams can land him by the time he gets to the PBA.. if I'm not mistaken, Ginebra and Petron own high draft rights for next year courtesy of previous deals they had..
as for Shopinas, wala silang player na pwedeng gawing trade bait para makakuha ng decent veteran.. they should just groom Hubalde and Jazul for the time being.. those 2 have been pretty consistent and are not afraid to take the big shots.. pwede rin manghingi na lang sila sa sister team nila.. Barako Bull is loaded so maybe they can ask for Maliksi, Salvacion or Najorda.. pwede rin si Allado kasi dating Green Archer din yun..
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he has signed up na for SMB sa ABL but I think they're arranging it so that one of their 3 teams can land him by the time he gets to the PBA.. if I'm not mistaken, Ginebra and Petron own high draft rights for next year courtesy of previous deals they had...
as for Shopinas, wala silang player na pwedeng gawing trade bait para makakuha ng decent veteran.. they should just groom Hubalde and Jazul for the time being.. those 2 have been pretty consistent and are not afraid to take the big shots.. pwede rin manghingi na lang sila sa sister team nila.. Barako Bull is loaded so maybe they can ask for Maliksi, Salvacion or Najorda.. pwede rin si Allado kasi dating Green Archer din yun..
unfortunately, di ganon kasimple yun. kung sister teams nga sila kailangan may team-in-between ang magiging trade deals nila. so either makipagtrade sila sa mga teams ni mvp or sa mga teams ng smb.
as for a go-to-guy, laos na ba talaga si ritualo? o wala ng kumpiyansa sa sarili? si duncil at si hubalde kagagaling lang sa championship sa petron at maganda naman ang pinakitang laro, lalo na sa tapang ng loob. siguro consistency na lang ang kailangan. pagkakataon na nila dahil kung sa ibang mga team na pinanggalingan nila di sila nabibigyan ng maraming playing time dahil sa dami ng superstars, ngayon sila ang mga "superstars" ng team nila!
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^ Ritualo has never been able to approximate the great success he had in the amateurs - where he was surrounded by exceptional talent (DLSU's Filam era & Tanduay Rhum's PBL reign) ..... shooting does become easier when you're not the primary offensive threat.
Ritualo was never a pro superstar to begin with - having never developed the other facets of his game, other than the longhot of course ...... honestly, I can probably count with one hand, the number of times I've seen Ritualo score on a layup & I've watched quite a number of games.
As for the SHOPINAS CLICKERS further developing their team ..... dont count on it.
This team is owned by Mr. Bert Lina - the man whose sole purpose in joining the PBA is to draft & collect talent, then SELL them to the elite teams.
The number of WTF trades that Bert Lina had engineered for his AIR21/FEDEX/BURGER KING team throughout the years, is absolutely mind-boggling (most, where to SMC teams of course).
One standout example:
Near the tail-end of the 2009 PBA season, then BURGER KING traded their marquee player Arwind Santos (even then, he was a perennial Best Player of the Conference & season MVP contender) to SAN MIGUEL ...... he was traded for Ken Bono, Marc Pingris & a draft pick.
Marc Pingris was "released" to PUREFOODS the following day, while Ken Bono was waived a few weeks after.
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unfortunately, di ganon kasimple yun. kung sister teams nga sila kailangan may team-in-between ang magiging trade deals nila. so either makipagtrade sila sa mga teams ni mvp or sa mga teams ng smb.
as for a go-to-guy, laos na ba talaga si ritualo? o wala ng kumpiyansa sa sarili? si duncil at si hubalde kagagaling lang sa championship sa petron at maganda naman ang pinakitang laro, lalo na sa tapang ng loob. siguro consistency na lang ang kailangan. pagkakataon na nila dahil kung sa ibang mga team na pinanggalingan nila di sila nabibigyan ng maraming playing time dahil sa dami ng superstars, ngayon sila ang mga "superstars" ng team nila!
Shopinas would not have a problem looking for a conduit team to make a trade possible with Barako.. ang magiging problema nila is kung papayag yung Barako na guluhin yung team nila ngayon.. they've been winning and they really have built a formidable team.. Alaska and Ginebra have been in the middle of trade rumors right now and both have hinted that a change in line-up is being considered.. either team can be a counduit for Barako and Shopinas..
as for Ritualo, the problem isn't his confidence anymore.. he's getting his minutes and he's getting his shots.. ang problema lang, walang bago sa laro niya.. he's just a shooter and nothing more.. mabagal na siya at maliit rin.. madali na siya bantayan.. put a taller and younger guy on him and he will struggle.. Shopinas is getting their production from their guards.. Hubalde, Duncil, Ritualo and Jazul.. James Sena is the only big man they have who's consistent, churning out double-double numbers almost every game.. as the season progresses, I think they will get better.. next conference unlimited height naman yung imports so dun na lang sila bumawi..
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those are what shopinas needs -- at least 2 veterans to stabilize them during crunchtime, a go-to guy, and another big man. this is just their maiden season anyway. they are still a work in progress. a diamond in the rough, so to speak.
as for ritualo, his shooting is both his strength and his weakness. one dimensional kasi sya eh. that's why it's so easy to clamp him down. tapatan mo lang ng matinding defender, sira na ang laro nya. i agree with one observation that it would be hard for them to have a trade deal anytime soon. it's hard to dangle role players in exchange for a superstar.
as far as the alaska-ginebra trade, both teams have already denied it. although history would say that all the other trades that were consummated int he pba were initially denied by the involved teams. i really hope ginebra could get another center. menk is on the sunset of his career already. he is not as dominant as he was. mamaril is not really impressive at all. yancy is all the more disappointing. he had flashes of brilliance last conference but that was it. and for his height, he always plays outside. rico is the only bright spot sa center slot ng ginebra.
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Shopinas joined the PBA for commercial purposes, its an e-commerce that they want people to know for shopping on line.
They just will continue to develpo and give exposure to their players then sell them as GLADIATORS like in the movies.
They aint serious of winning any PBA titles, all they want is just to make money out of their players via trades with other PBA teams.
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After winning their first three games, Petron has now lost three games in a row, to Meralco, Talk N Text, and Powerade. They are now feeling the continued absence of Rabeh, Jay Wash, Dondon and Lordy.
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meron pa bang nanonood ng pba?
I'm actually starting to like it again.. sana magtuloy tuloy.. my last favorite team was swift with meneses, now parang I like Rain or shine..
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After winning their first three games, Petron has now lost three games in a row, to Meralco, Talk N Text, and Powerade. They are now feeling the continued absence of Rabeh, Jay Wash, Dondon and Lordy.
Nagpapadehado lng mga yan. They are even better now with Lutz and a healthy Joseph Yeo and they're also giving Baclao the much needed breaks this elimination to toughen him up come the semis. They won the championship against Talk N text w/o Rabeh, J Was, Lordy and Dondon.
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I'm actually starting to like it again.. sana magtuloy tuloy.. my last favorite team was swift with meneses, now parang I like Rain or shine..
Mukhang idol mu ata si Yeng Guiao
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nice i didn't know that.. well good for their youngsters, maaga mag mamature.. :)
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Nagpapadehado lng mga yan. They are even better now with Lutz and a healthy Joseph Yeo and they're also giving Baclao the much needed breaks this elimination to toughen him up come the semis. They won the championship against Talk N text w/o Rabeh, J Was, Lordy and Dondon.
I doubt na nagpapadehado lang sila.. kulang na talaga sila sa tao.. they were once the deepest team pero ngayon wala ng maipasok si Ato.. nung Friday vs. TNT, Cabagnot played 48mins, Lutz, 44 and Arwind 40 mins.. that's their top 3 players.. si Ildefonso nga had to play 30 mins.. last conference nanalo sila kasi they still had Pennisi, Salvacion, Hubalde and Duncil.. may import pa.. if you look at their bench now, mas marami pa ang coach nila.. they even had to sign a free agent PG just to have another warm body.. they're also planning to activate Lordy Tugade once Shopinas signs his release papers.. those long minutes for their top players will take its toll and they won't have enough to go on pagdating sa playoffs..
I'm liking Barako Bull now.. been a big fan of Danny Seigle and it was nice seeing him play well nung Saturday.. Dylan Ababou is really making a believer out of me.. the guy can really play.. ang ganda rin ng attitude sa laro.. walang ere at hustle lang.. ang sipag sa opensa at depensa.. Barako and Rain or Shine have the most balanced line-up ngayon.. if Barako goes deep this conference, magiging problema lang nila eh coaching.. RoS doesn't have that problem..
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PETRON has long been shallow on the SG position ...... the main reason why they're struggling a bit.
Lutz has been playing great, however he has been overworked & has seen little relief from the bench (IMO Yeo has been a disappointment since PETRON traded for him).
The big reason they won last conference, was the import Anthony Grundy - who was the perfect fit at SG ..... and to an extent, Jojo Duncil, who provided a little bit of everything for PETRON.
I would say that Jay Washington's sidelining was a great blessing to PETRON since it absolutely freed-up Arwind Santos' game, which is best served when he freelances rather than wait on the wings (which he always did when Washington was around).
True PBA fans should be very worried if PETRON continues to slide ...... if the losing continues, expect another set of lopsided trades to benefit PETRON.
Note that more than half of PETRON's current lineup came from WTF trades from Bert Lina's pimp teams FEDEX/AIR21/BURGER KING.
I wouldn't be surprised to see extremely promising rookies Dylan Ababou and/or Alain Maliksi being suddenly "traded" to PETRON or the two other SMC teams.
SMC has that big a warchest (not to mention Danding Cojuangco's life mantra of winning-at-all-costs) ..... while Bert Lina just loves that moolah (Arwind Santos for P20M anyone?).
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si Therlyn Alcuitas ba to?
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Joseph Yeo is a clutch player, many times bigla kng titirahan ng tres at ang lalayu pa.
Playing time lng ang kulang when he transfered to Petron. Coach ATO just loves to play Denok Miranda and Alex Cabognot together coz its very effective match up wise against the speed of TNTs backcourt combos.
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Yup, Joseph Yeo was clutch ..... during his UAAP stint, when DLSU's Filam lineup ruled the league.
His game flourished under SLR's Boyet Fernandez' quick motion offense (and stymied under COKE's Binky Favis' slowdown game) where he didn't take much outside shots.
He got PT under PETRON's Siot Tanquincen, as Hontiveros' chief sub ..... he still got PT under Ato Agustin, albeit decreased minutes, yet still played behind a tougher Jojo Duncil last season.
His PETRON stint is a disappointment so far, since he's never adjusted his game to the advanced defenses that teams employ now ...... his jumpshot is still erratic at best.
It's just unfortunate that SMC chooses to hoard decent players, even those not given the minutes e.g. Yeo, Jimbo Aquino, Celino Cruz, etc ..... rather than trade them to other teams who can utilize their talents & give them the PT.
On the flipside, more than a few benched SMC players have been known to decline offers from other teams ...... choosing the bench life (or limited minutes) & receiving an SMC "salary" of course e.g. Homer Se, Dorian Pena, Junthy Valenzuela, etc
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PETRON has long been shallow on the SG position ...... the main reason why they're struggling a bit.
Lutz has been playing great, however he has been overworked & has seen little relief from the bench (IMO Yeo has been a disappointment since PETRON traded for him).
The big reason they won last conference, was the import Anthony Grundy - who was the perfect fit at SG ..... and to an extent, Jojo Duncil, who provided a little bit of everything for PETRON.
I would say that Jay Washington's sidelining was a great blessing to PETRON since it absolutely freed-up Arwind Santos' game, which is best served when he freelances rather than wait on the wings (which he always did when Washington was around).
True PBA fans should be very worried if PETRON continues to slide ...... if the losing continues, expect another set of lopsided trades to benefit PETRON.
Note that more than half of PETRON's current lineup came from WTF trades from Bert Lina's pimp teams FEDEX/AIR21/BURGER KING.
I wouldn't be surprised to see extremely promising rookies Dylan Ababou and/or Alain Maliksi being suddenly "traded" to PETRON or the two other SMC teams.
SMC has that big a warchest (not to mention Danding Cojuangco's life mantra of winning-at-all-costs) ..... while Bert Lina just loves that moolah (Arwind Santos for P20M anyone?).
Hontiveros always got the job done at the SG position. They got Fonacier to help but traded him to Alaska. They also got Tugade but they got him already injured and had to wait for him to get better. Unfortunately Tugade has yet to recover the form he showed when he played for Red Bull under Guiao.
Yeo really is a big disappointment. Bonbon Custodio played better and contributed more when he was still with San Miguel.
Lutz will continue to be overworked until Hontiveros comes back.
Grundy was a very big factor in Petron's winning last conference's Championship series. Duncil may have contributed a little bit of everything, toughness, some points, hustle, rebounds, steals but all the remaining Petron players contributed the same things. Pennisi, Salvacion, Hubalde, Guevarra, and Baclao contributed too. But what really helped was the rejuvenated play of Ildefonso, the unexpected offense from Miranda, and the consistent play of Santos and Cabagnot.
Arwind Santos still plays the same way. The only difference now is that he is either the first or second option in their offense. With Washington around, Santos is usually relegated to the second or third option.
Trades are inevitable. Teams would like to get better players. The Commissioner's office tries to make the deals fair, at least, that is what it says.
Talk n Text also benefited from lopsided deals. They got Kelly Williams and Ryan Reyes and Japeth Aguilar too from questionable deals. And now they have the most powerful and aggressive team, if not the best team in the PBA.
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si Therlyn Alcuitas ba to?
yup, that's her.. girlfriend ni Dylan Ababou..
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Yup, Joseph Yeo was clutch ..... during his UAAP stint, when DLSU's Filam lineup ruled the league.
His game flourished under SLR's Boyet Fernandez' quick motion offense (and stymied under COKE's Binky Favis' slowdown game) where he didn't take much outside shots.
He got PT under PETRON's Siot Tanquincen, as Hontiveros' chief sub ..... he still got PT under Ato Agustin, albeit decreased minutes, yet still played behind a tougher Jojo Duncil last season.
His PETRON stint is a disappointment so far, since he's never adjusted his game to the advanced defenses that teams employ now ...... his jumpshot is still erratic at best.
It's just unfortunate that SMC chooses to hoard decent players, even those not given the minutes e.g. Yeo, Jimbo Aquino, Celino Cruz, etc ..... rather than trade them to other teams who can utilize their talents & give them the PT.
On the flipside, more than a few benched SMC players have been known to decline offers from other teams ...... choosing the bench life (or limited minutes) & receiving an SMC "salary" of course e.g. Homer Se, Dorian Pena, Junthy Valenzuela, etc
Celino Cruz is now with Powerade, and he plays behind Casio and Lingganay. I think Cruz not getting playing time is due to the coach's prerogative. Helterbrand, during his prime, was played almost the whole game by Siot/Jong. The other pointguards in Ginebra's line-up, Cruz included, saw limited playing time.
Homer Se came to Ginebra injured. SMC and its sister teams are known to cover a player's recovery expenses and if he is given a "salary" while recuperating, I don't think the player would entertain any offers from other teams. Some recent players who probably benefited from this are, Seigle, Tugade, and Valenzuela. Menk, Washington and Husseini are also probably getting this same treatment. I don't think Se is in Ginebra's current line-up.
Is Valenzuela still active?
Pena is now with Barako Bull and he still rides the bench due to his propensity to foul.
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Hontiveros always got the job done at the SG position. They got Fonacier to help but traded him to Alaska. They also got Tugade but they got him already injured and had to wait for him to get better. Unfortunately Tugade has yet to recover the form he showed when he played for Red Bull under Guiao.
Yeo really is a big disappointment. Bonbon Custodio played better and contributed more when he was still with San Miguel.
Lutz will continue to be overworked until Hontiveros comes back.
Grundy was a very big factor in Petron's winning last conference's Championship series. Duncil may have contributed a little bit of everything, toughness, some points, hustle, rebounds, steals but all the remaining Petron players contributed the same things. Pennisi, Salvacion, Hubalde, Guevarra, and Baclao contributed too. But what really helped was the rejuvenated play of Ildefonso, the unexpected offense from Miranda, and the consistent play of Santos and Cabagnot.
Arwind Santos still plays the same way. The only difference now is that he is either the first or second option in their offense. With Washington around, Santos is usually relegated to the second or third option.
Trades are inevitable. Teams would like to get better players. The Commissioner's office tries to make the deals fair, at least, that is what it says.
Talk n Text also benefited from lopsided deals. They got Kelly Williams and Ryan Reyes and Japeth Aguilar too from questionable deals. And now they have the most powerful and aggressive team, if not the best team in the PBA.
Yup, TnT did also benefit from lopsided deals ..... however, it was through a different route - Kelly Williams & Ryan Reyes were acquired as part of MVP's purchasing the old SANTA LUCIA franchise (for their new team MERALCO).
MVP and SLR's Buddy Encarnado further justified the deal by committing both Williams & Reyes to the GILAS squad - which they actually did, albeit a conference late (Toroman eventually passed on Reyes since he already had Lutz, Lassiter, etc).
As for Japeth Aguilar, I give a pass on TnT for this - since it was clear that most was Aguilar's fault ....... he signed on to the draft & was picked 1st overall. A few days after the draft, he announced that he wont sign with BURGER KING, choosing to go to GILAS instead.
MVP proposed a compromise and traded for Aguilar ...... which they eventually did, then gave him to GILAS for a full 2 years.
Trades are indeed inevitable, however the kind of trades that SMC makes with Bert Lina's pimp teams (also with George Chua's old RED BULL team) defies all sense of inegrity and fair play.
Right of the bat (there are some more which I'll refrain from posting ... re: long post)
** BERT LINA trading Arwind Santos (BPC & MVP runner-up, 3-time defensive team) to SMB for Marc Pingris & Ken Bono ..... Pingris was "magically" transferred to PUREFOODS a day later, while Ken Bono was never signed.
** BERT LINA's team made history when they got the 1st 3-picks for the 2010 draft. I cant recall any other team in any pro-sport anywhere, getting the 1st 3-picks for any draft.
After a single conference, they "traded" away these 3-picks (Al-Hussaini, Baclao & Guevarra) to SMB for Pena, Seigle, Artadi & Hontiveros.
This trade absolutely destroyed the essence of a professional draft - giving first dibs to the last finishers, so they can rebuild by the drafting the best young talent available.
** BERT LINA's team trading away the 2011 3rd overall pick to SMB ...... for SMB's 2011 8th overall pick & 2014 1st round pick.
This years draft was the most top-heavy draft in recent memory ....... how can one team trade away a surefire 3rd pick (which turned out to be Chris Lutz) for a gamble on the 8th pick??
By the way, BERT LINA also included their best SG (Hontiveros) & then best bigman (Sharma) in the deal ..... for the rights to Salvacion & Pennisi.
They also mysteriously relegated their best PG (Urbiztondo) to the unrestricted list ..... a few days later, he was in a a BMEG uniform.
** BERT LINA's team trading away JR Reyes to ALASKA for Joe Devance ...... lopsided since Devance was then the seasons stats leader - however it was a deal that needs to be done since Devance wanted out of ALASKA (despite already receiving the max salary).
About a week later, Devance was "traded" to BMEG ..... for the rights to Salvador & Canaleta (who was eventually "traded" to GINEBRA).
The funny thing about all of this is, Commisioner's commitment to "making all trades fair" ....... why does the Commissioner's office have to watch over trades to begin with ?
Arent trades governed by the usual rules e.g. salaries of tradees must come within a certain %, tradees must both be medically cleared, etc.
Methinks (as does every true follower of the sport) it's because the Commisioner knows that hocus-pocus trades are indeed happening all the time ....... he just needs to "regulate the greed".
Apologies for the long post ...... no alternative but the PBA, due to this damm NBA lockout.
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Right of the bat (there are some more which I'll refrain from posting ... re: long post)
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Apologies for the long post ...... no alternative but the PBA, due to this damm NBA lockout.
Please do post. It makes for good reading, very informative!
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TNT was the first team that benefited from the Lina franchise's practice of selling players.. Yancy De Ocampo, Jay Washington, Ren-Ren Ritualo, Mac Cardona and Ranidel De Ocampo..
Yancy was traded for a draft pick after his rookie season.. Jay Washington was traded for Yancy in 2005.. Cardona was traded for then 32-year-old Patrick Fran before he got to play for Air21.. Ritualo was traded together with Patrick Fran for Leo Avenido and draft picks.. Ranidel De Ocampo was traded for an aging Don Allado..
and that Williams/Reyes deal was done before both teams became sister teams kaya walang naging restriction.. it's the same thing Coke did when they traded Hatfield and Reavis to Ginebra before SMC sold their shares back to Coke itself.. Williams and Reyes for Ali Peek, Nic Belasco, Aljamal and Menor.. tapos Peek eventually got back to TNT when TNT traded Cardona to sister team Meralco.. TNT got Williams, Reyes and Peek and lost only Cardona..
TNT or SMC, kung sino mas malaking pera binibigay yun yung magiging ka-deal ng Lina franchise..
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@boredfilmmaker ...... Yup, TnT did have their share of raiding BERT LINA's pimp teams. They had used Yancy as a trading chip for the longest time.
I'm no fan of TnT either, however I wouldnt consider their trades anywhere near the lopsided-ness of SMC deals.
Hard to believe, but Cardona wasn't as highly touted when he entered the draft - Fran, though aged, still was a perennial defensive team awardee & even lead MOBILINE to Finals/semis stints a few years back, when most of the PBA superstars were playing in then Asian games (even had a missed buzzer-beating jumper that would have won them their first 'chip).
Leo Avenido meanwhile was THE touted super-scorer during his amateur stint ..... just unfortunate that his earlier success wasnt realized in the pros.
Yup, there was no infraction on the Williams/Reyes deals, since SLR still was in the league then. Like I said, it was part of the commitment to purchase it's franchise ....... correct, it was similar to the Reavis/Hatfield, etc trade to GINEBRA.
@brainwashed ..... Dont get me started bro. ;D
Here goes some more of the SMC-related lopsided deals:
** BERT LINA's team trades away Gary David/Chico Lanete to COKE ...... for Alex Cabagnot/Wesley Gonzales.
Two (2) months later, they trade Cabagnot to SMB for Mike Cortez.
Three (3) months later, they trade Cortez to GINEBRA for Billy Mamaril.
Two (2) months later, they trade Mamaril back to GINEBRA for a future draft pick.
Very obvious that BERT LINA's pimp team was just serving the needs of both SMB & GINEBRA.
** BERT LINA's team trades away recent re-acquisition (he lasted just a month) KG Canaleta & it's 2012 1st round pick to GINEBRA ..... for an aging Willie Miller.
Trade doesnt seem so lopsided, since Miller is still serviceable (though past his prime) ....... however note that BERT LINA included their 1st round pick next year - a draft which is projected to be as top-heavy as the recent one e.g. possible draftees are all the top-notch Filams in the D-League (Filams werent able to enter the recent draft owing to a last-minute requirement about serving 2-conferences in the D-League) .... some more potential draftees are Slaughter, Abueva, etc.
** BERT LINA's team mysteriously relegates their best PG last 2010 season, Josh Urboztondo, to the unrestricted list - which allows him to accept offers from other teams.
Why do this to your best PG ? ..... who almost single-handedly handed them a semis stint during the 2010 2nd conference.
A few days later, Urbiztondo was signed by BMEG to a new contract.
** (This one was way notorious back in 2007) GEORGE CHUA's then RED BULL team trades away their franchise player Enrico Villanueva to SMB for Rommel Adducul (!)
Villanueva was instrumental in RED BULL's 2005 Fiesta Cup Championship, where he also won BPC. To top it off, he was the MVP runner-up in the 2006 season.
What makes this trade extremely fishy ..... it was during this time, when the RTL (Restricted Trade List) was in effect - which means anyone on the list cannot be traded away. Villanueva being the franchise player, was obviously in the list.
In early 2007, Villanueva was mysteriously removed from the RTL & 2-weeks later was traded for PBA-underachiever Rommel Adducul.
When all of media was howling mad about the trade, Tony Chua (then RED BULL manager) justified the trade by saying that Villanueva had "attitude problems" ..... which doesnt hold water at all, since Villanueva was selected by the PBA Board for the National Team pool a few months back.
SLR's Buddy Encarnado said it best ..... "If Enrico had attitude problems, why would we select him for the National Team at all?"
To add to the lunacy, 2 days later, RED BULL trades away Adducul to PUREFOODS for an even greater disappointment in Don Camaso (!) ..... Don Camaso plays out the year for RED BULL, then gets waived at the end of the season.
** GEORGE CHUA's then RED BULL team trades away Lordy Tugade/Omanzie Rodriguez to SMB for .... wait for it ...... Migs Noble/Mark Kong (!)
Lordy Tugade was a top-rated SG then & like Villanueva, was also an MVP contender during the 2006 season.
Noble plays a few weeks for RED BULL, then gets waived ..... while Mark Kong was never signed-up.
** GEORGE CHUA's then RED BULL team trades away Kerby Raymundo to PUREFOODS for 2003 draft picks.
Raymundo was instrumental in RED BULL winning a championship the previous year. No need to further expound on the lunacy of this trade.
** GEORGE CHUA's then RED BULL team trades away Larry Fonacier to SMB ..... for Kiko Adriano.
This doesnt sound as lopsided at first, Adriano having a notable UAAP & MBA career ...... however, let's consider that Fonacier was Rookie Of The Year & an All-Star player just a year back.
** GEORGE CHUA's then RED BULL team trades away their only remaining stalwarts in Cyrus Baguio/Celino Cruz to GINEBRA ..... for future draft picks.
Baguio was a Mythical Team member a year back, while Celino Cruz was a very decent PG which any team would love to have (apparently not RED BULL).
This trade was so appaling that Yeng Guiao resigned from RED BULL shortly afterwards.
** GEORGE CHUA's then RED BULL team trades away their 2010 7th overall pick to GINEBRA ..... for the god-like Mike Holper.
The 2010 7th pick turns out to be NCAA star John Wilson ..... Mike Holper HARDLY saw playing time for all the teams he has played on.
RED BULL waives Mike Holper after a few weeks .... he is then "signed-up" by his old team SMB.
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Speaking of TRADES, i wonder when Lina will trade his son in law Winnie Arboleda to another team? Mukhang sya lng ang natitirang original Fed Ex player while others have gone places.
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Speaking of TRADES, i wonder when Lina will trade his son in law Winnie Arboleda to another team? Mukhang sya lng ang natitirang original Fed Ex player while others have gone places.
Winnie Arboleda is the heart & soul of BERT LINA's pimp teams ...... he will bitch-slap (literally) anyone who comes in the way of the family business. ;D
What's funny is, any other country in the world - this BERT LINA team and his trade partners would get panned bigtime.
"Only In Da Pilipins"
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the posts above were reasons why i dont watch the PBA anymore, i dont even know where the players are, just like other sports, the PBA being a commercial league was made more commercialized by these moves, gone are the days where yuo see a vergel meneses almost walking in the air everytime he drives, an alvin patrimonio who is an epitome of discipline and hardwork, an allan caidic who shoots the ball like hell but has played like theres no tomorrow all the time, a jojo lastimosa, the guy who actually get me hooked wiht basketball, the 4th quarter man who during the fourth quarter can almost single handedly win the games for alaska,
sa ngayon pag may chane ako makanood while channel browsing, ang nakikita ko parang mga artista, kulang na lang mga make up at mag pomada sa buhok bago mag shoot, mas naeenjoy ko pa ang NCAA.
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most of the recent trades that happened in the PBA were really lopsided. there were a few, though, that were fair but are overshadowed by the ridiculous ones. the tanduay franchise also entered into lopsided trades, but this was as a protest to the way the franchise was treated then. this was how ginebra was able to acquire eric menk.
i think the PBA should go back to its "2 sister teams" policy. these ridiculos trades did not happen when this policy was in place. ngayon kasi, it's SMC and MVP who seems to dictate player movements. especially SMC who owns 4 teams. MVP, on the other hand, has the money to buy any player he wants for TnT and/or meralco.
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^ TANDUAY was on it's way out the league when they traded their "name-players" exclusively to SMC teams ..... as a way of sticking it to the PBA, which they called a "San Miguel League".
Eric Menk to GINEBRA, Dondon Hontiveros to SMB, Jeffrey Cariaso/Rudy Hatfield to COKE & Chris Cantonjos to PUREFOODS.
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Those WTF trades (and there are more of them from both SMC & MVP teams) which I've posted earlier, has resulted in league parity to be at an all-time worst ..... which has alienated a lot of the true fans of the sport e.g. most of us here.
The PBA really has become a microcosm of our society ...... the rich (Cojuangco & MVP) thrive & prosper through the hoarding of key resources & assets via questionable means.
By the way, folks shouldn't expect much positive changes in the PBA ...... it's current Commisioner Chito Salud was recently a member of the Board of Directors of PETRON Corporation - handpicked no less, by the original Pacman .... Danding Cojuangco - the greatest crony of the worst dictator this country has ever had.
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if that's the case, we should be expecting positive changes to the four teams of SMC...
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if that's the case, we should be expecting positive changes to the four teams of SMC...
3 teams lang.. Petron, Ginebra and B-Meg.. kasi negative yung mangyayari sa Barako.. ;D
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Win market this season..
Talk N' Text Tropang Texters - 2.80
Petron Blaze Boosters - 3.70
B-Meg Llamados - 11.50
Ginebra Kings - 8.00
Alaska Aces - 70.00
Rain or Shine Elasto Painters - 9.00
Meralco Boltz - 36.00
Powerade Tigers - 56.00
Barako Bull Energy Drink - 22.00
Shopinas.com Clickers - 200.00
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the posts above were reasons why i dont watch the PBA anymore, i dont even know where the players are, just like other sports, the PBA being a commercial league was made more commercialized by these moves, gone are the days where yuo see a vergel meneses almost walking in the air everytime he drives, an alvin patrimonio who is an epitome of discipline and hardwork, an allan caidic who shoots the ball like hell but has played like theres no tomorrow all the time, a jojo lastimosa, the guy who actually get me hooked wiht basketball, the 4th quarter man who during the fourth quarter can almost single handedly win the games for alaska,
sa ngayon pag may chane ako makanood while channel browsing, ang nakikita ko parang mga artista, kulang na lang mga make up at mag pomada sa buhok bago mag shoot, mas naeenjoy ko pa ang NCAA.
Gone were the Crispa Toyota days when players played their hearts out for pride rather than for money.
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Gone were the Crispa Toyota days when players played their hearts out for pride rather than for money.
There are times when the players do play for pride rather than money, like the recently concluded championship between Petron and Talk n Text. Though I am sure the players from both teams were promised bonuses, the main motivating factor for winning was pride. For Talk n Text, it was the honor of becoming only the 4th team to win a grandslam while for Petron, it was to show that they deserved to be in the finals, that they were a serious title contender even with a decimated line-up and that they could really win it when no one believe in them but themselves.
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The thrill of an actual game will always be there ..... 2-teams, 48-minutes.
It's the moves being played outside the court that is destroying the league.
I recall the time when the late CRISPA REDMANIZERS manager Danny Floro, would let go of players - just for being egocentric & shunning team play.
One player that Danny Floro heavily criticized then, was their center Abet Guidaben ..... "magaling ka nga, hindi ka naman marunong makisama sa teammates mo .... "
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There are times when the players do play for pride rather than money, like the recently concluded championship between Petron and Talk n Text. Though I am sure the players from both teams were promised bonuses, the main motivating factor for winning was pride. For Talk n Text, it was the honor of becoming only the 4th team to win a grandslam while for Petron, it was to show that they deserved to be in the finals, that they were a serious title contender even with a decimated line-up and that they could really win it when no one believe in them but themselves.
Iba pa rin tlga un passion for the game na pinapakita ng mga players dati. Now its more of pa cute and pogi points.
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looks like karma's slowly catching up on Petron for hoarding all those players in the past.. 3 star players out in Hontiveros, Washington and Al Hussaini.. 3 game losing streak.. and now, their most consistent and prized rookie is injured.. come to think of it, all SMC teams are on a slump right now.. no team of theirs is above .500.. really surprising given the talent they have..
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looks like karma's slowly catching up on Petron for hoarding all those players in the past.. 3 star players out in Hontiveros, Washington and Al Hussaini.. 3 game losing streak.. and now, their most consistent and prized rookie is injured.. come to think of it, all SMC teams are on a slump right now.. no team of theirs is above .500.. really surprising given the talent they have..
Thats the price they have to pay for keeping their STARS up in the sky.
Now, they have to deal with their FALLING STARS.
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Petron wins over Alaska, 86-80. Joseph Yeo, starting in lieu of the injured Lutz, scored 27 points, got 9 rebounds with 4 assists. ;D
mukhang di pa tuluyan ang pagbagsak ng Petron. :D
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Petron wins over Alaska, 86-80. Joseph Yeo, starting in lieu of the injured Lutz, scored 27 points, got 9 rebounds with 4 assists. ;D
mukhang di pa tuluyan ang pagbagsak ng Petron. :D
i have too much confidence in Yeo. Playing time lng tlga ang kulang when he transfered to Petron.
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^ Great breakthrough game from Yeo ..... it's obviously his best game since coming on-board SMB; nearly 2 years ago.
Like I said, he had a great amateur career & was effective in Boyet Fernandez' Santa Lucia smart motion offense .... but will struggle with slower offenses like Favis' COKE & Tanquincen's SMB, even with PT.
Agustin employs the same slowdown offense - though he has some streaks of Yeng Guiao in him ..... will let his players freelance compared to previous coaches Tanquincen & Uichico. Let's hope that Yeo picks up his game some more.
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^ Great breakthrough game from Yeo ..... it's obviously his best game since coming on-board SMB; nearly 2 years ago.
Like I said, he had a great amateur career & was effective in Boyet Fernandez' Santa Lucia smart motion offense .... but will struggle with slower offenses like Favis' COKE & Tanquincen's SMB, even with PT.
Agustin employs the same slowdown offense - though he has some streaks of Yeng Guiao in him ..... will let his players freelance compared to previous coaches Tanquincen & Uichico. Let's hope that Yeo picks up his game some more.
I always root for Yeng Guiao's team. He makes star players out of players who wont even get playing time in other teams.
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I always root for Yeng Guiao's team. He makes star players out of players who wont even get playing time in other teams.
yeah but sometimes he goes too far.. that temper of his is very unbecoming of a vice-governor.. he's a good coach and I like him for that but taking cheap shots against a player is something a coach shouldn't do.. players taking cheap shots at each other I can understand.. they are playing a physical sport so may times talaga na nagkakapikonan.. but a coach throwing an elbow at the back of a backpedaling player is unacceptable for me.. Menor may have taunted the Rain or Shine bench after hitting that 3 but he didn't deserve that elbow in the back from Yeng Guiao.. same thing happened before with Dondon Hontiveros nung nasa Red Bull pa si Yeng.. and Dondon didn't even do anything to provoke Yeng then..
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Yup, Guiao is indeed old school ..... on the court. Met the guy more than a few times off-the-court (seminars, etc) & on those few times, saw that he's a totally different person outside the court.
Guiao's equal-opportunity offense really does make men out of unheralded/timid players (Enrico Villanueva was never the same when he left Yeng Guiao) ..... though he's fiery sideline demeanor will have parents covering their children's ears with all the swearing. ;D
For that Menor incident, I actually thought that Menor deserved that bump from behind - you dont go deep in an opposing bench, make taunts, then expect to get away cleanly ...... it was just unfortunate (fortunate) that Guiao was standing inches from Menor, when the taunts came flying. Instincts took over & he apologized just as quickly on the dugout.
For the Hontiveros incident long ago, I dont think that was unprovoked ...... Guiao and his wards have always been known to give the bumps - but rarely unprovoked IMO.
During his 2008 National Team stint, popular guard JJ Helterbrand was tripped dangerously by an opposing (IIRC Syria) player ...... Guiao shouted to his players (for everyone in the stadium to hear) .... "Tirahin niyo na yan"
Even during those exhibition PBA National Team-GILAS matches ..... some GILAS players, particularly Chris Lutz was giving out his fair share of taunts, which caused those games to get more physical.
Guiao is old school ...... Jaworski, Tembong Melencio, etc would be proud.
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Yup, Guiao is indeed old school ..... on the court. Met the guy more than a few times off-the-court (seminars, etc) & on those few times, saw that he's a totally different person outside the court.
Guiao's equal-opportunity offense really does make men out of unheralded/timid players (Enrico Villanueva was never the same when he left Yeng Guiao) ..... though he's fiery sideline demeanor will have parents covering their children's ears with all the swearing. ;D
For that Menor incident, I actually thought that Menor deserved that bump from behind - you dont go deep in an opposing bench, make taunts, then expect to get away cleanly ...... it was just unfortunate (fortunate) that Guiao was standing inches from Menor, when the taunts came flying. Instincts took over & he apologized just as quickly on the dugout.
For the Hontiveros incident long ago, I dont think that was unprovoked ...... Guiao and his wards have always been known to give the bumps - but rarely unprovoked IMO.
During his 2008 National Team stint, popular guard JJ Helterbrand was tripped dangerously by an opposing (IIRC Syria) player ...... Guiao shouted to his players (for everyone in the stadium to hear) .... "Tirahin niyo na yan"
Even during those exhibition PBA National Team-GILAS matches ..... some GILAS players, particularly Chris Lutz was giving out his fair share of taunts, which caused those games to get more physical.
Guiao is old school ...... Jaworski, Tembong Melencio, etc would be proud.
I was at Araneta during that semis game against Red Bull and I'm telling you, Dondon did not deserve that elbow from Yeng Guiao.. that elbow by Yeng Guiao was a cheap shot on the opponents' best player of that series.. I respect old school tactics in a game if there's a valid purpose.. I even understand yung mga cheap shots nung mga Red Bull players dati kasi mga ganti lang yun.. pinipisikal sila so they do the same thing.. but that Hontiveros incident was nothing like it.. Dondon was carrying SMB in that series and Red Bull was facing elimination in that game 6.. it was a desperate move by Yeng Guiao.. Guiao didn't even apologize for that incident..
that Menor incident may have been warranted.. Menor may have deserved it.. but what Guiao did isn't ok.. Guiao likes taunting players lalo na pag malapit sa kanya.. I've seen that happen live.. but nobody ever took cheap shots at him.. yung iba pa nga nagso-sorry pag nabangga sya unintentionally.. if it's ok for Guiao to hit players if his team is taunted then it should also be the same the other way.. players he taunts should also be given the ok to hit back.. taunting is ok, it's part of the game.. throwing elbows isn't.. and sure he apologized after.. but he also called Menor "sira ulo" while doing so..
I like Yeng Guiao's coaching.. he's very capable and he gives opportunities to every player.. I just don't like a good game ruined by some unwarranted cheap shots..
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That's what I meant .... Guiao will give out the instructions to hit, when he sees that his players are being roughed-up and taunted by opposing players (or getting the short end of the referee's stick .... which was almost a given during those SMB golden years).
Like I said, the man is old school ...... every one of those old-school coaches will do the same & worse.
People should have seen games during the early 80's ..... I saw it all live - elbow to the liver, knees to the groin, spit in the eyes (Big Boy Reynoso, Onchie Dela Cruz, etc).
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Guys ang MALI ay MALI! Kahit ano pang ibigay nating dahilan at rason! Guiao hitting a player or any player in any sport hitting someone should not play sports! Maliban na lang kung boxing, taekwondo, et al.
Old school? Kahit marumi ilaro basta manalo? Anong satisfaction yun? It's just wrong...in all size, shape and form. >:(
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Nobody is saying what Guiao did was right ..... just pointing out that old school sports & personalities will tend to do that.
Did Menor deserve that specific bump - defnitely yes ..... you dont go taunting in a fellow's own backyard & get away without resistance (Menor was air-pistoling an opponent in the face, a game back for chrissakes) ..... though nothing more excessive than that specific bump, of course.
Did Guiao deserve the suspension - definitely yes ..... what he did was wrong & he was rightfully suspended for the remainder of the game - should prolly be fined by Salud as well.
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speaking of bad things, Ali Peek was reportedly shot earlier today.. According to some tweets from players and PBA people, he's at Medical City right now.. he's stable and conscious naman daw.. Hoping he's alright and praying for it too..
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That's what I meant .... Guiao will give out the instructions to hit, when he sees that his players are being roughed-up and taunted by opposing players (or getting the short end of the referee's stick .... which was almost a given during those SMB golden years).
Like I said, the man is old school ...... every one of those old-school coaches will do the same & worse.
People should have seen games during the early 80's ..... I saw it all live - elbow to the liver, knees to the groin, spit in the eyes (Big Boy Reynoso, Onchie Dela Cruz, etc).
Not to mention the GOD FATHER of them all THE BIG J and his galant Ginebra Hardcourt warriors.
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Guys ang MALI ay MALI! Kahit ano pang ibigay nating dahilan at rason! Guiao hitting a player or any player in any sport hitting someone should not play sports! Maliban na lang kung boxing, taekwondo, et al.
Old school? Kahit marumi ilaro basta manalo? Anong satisfaction yun? It's just wrong...in all size, shape and form. >:(
tama. ang mali ay mali. pero sino bang player ng kahit na anong sport na may contact ang ni minsan ay di nag-init, nairita, naasar o nainis sa kalaban lalo pa't nararamdaman mong iniisahan ka na o sinasadya na ang ginagawa? kung sa chess nga, na sinabi ni jaworski ay para sa mga taong ayaw ng physical contact, kung minsan ay may mga player na hinahawi ang mga piyesa sa galit o di kaya ay nagpupukpukan ng board sa ulo, lalo na kung may pustahan, hehe, e di lalo pa sa basketball na di maiiwasang magkatamaan, sadya man o di sinasadya. kung si Ildefonso nga na relihiyoso ay nakalimot at umakyat ng stands kasama si Pingris para hanapin yung fan ng Ginebrang sobrang mang-asar e di hindi na nakapagtataka na si Arboleda ay mambugbog ng fan na sobra ding mang-alaska.
sabihin na nating dapat talaga iwasang magkasakitan sa kahit na anong larong pampalakasan, kung minsan di maiwasang kinakailangan ding manggulang. ang sabi nga e para-paraan lamang yan.
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speaking of bad things, Ali Peek was reportedly shot earlier today.. According to some tweets from players and PBA people, he's at Medical City right now.. he's stable and conscious naman daw.. Hoping he's alright and praying for it too..
Just heard about this too ..... heard he's stable, but he was apparently shot in the neck (!).
Let's hope that Peek recovers soon & get to play as well.
A quiet operator on the court .... same demeanor off the court as well - got to meet him a few times (mostly with Alapag) in Greenhills. Both are regulars in EYO.
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Man, MVP really takes care of his players.. He just offered a P500K reward for information that will lead to the arrest of the gunman that shot Ali Peek.. here's the sketch of the shooter, just in case you see him:
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2011/11/peek-suspect.jpg
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Man, MVP really takes care of his players.. He just offered a P500K reward for information that will lead to the arrest of the gunman that shot Ali Peek.. here's the sketch of the shooter, just in case you see him:
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/assets/2011/11/peek-suspect.jpg
could this be because of game fixing? same as what Mac Baracael experienced in his FEU days?
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could this be because of game fixing? same as what Mac Baracael experienced in his FEU days?
attempted robbery daw according to initial findings by police..
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attempted robbery daw according to initial findings by police..
minsan mahirap din paniwalaan un mga reports ng police ksi mostly cover ups ang nanyayari to clean some mess
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ginebra, after winning two consecutive come from behind games, suffered two consecutive loses. the last one, at the hands of TnT was a blow out. thereafter, mark "the spark" caguioa, came out lashing at their "co"-coaches. "it's not right to experiment with the line-up before the crowd, during the game", "i can't help the team sitting on the bench", "JJ and I were doing good during the last two games, why suddenly change it", were some of his words. and, in one interview, he was asked if he was happy with what's happening with his team, his candid response was "no, i'm not happy".
being a ginebra fan,i admit that i too am not happy with them. i understand the thrust of coach siot to give the new players their time to shine and, perhaps, take over from the veterans. however, i personally think that it was not right for him to let Mark and JJ ride the bench most of the time. although getting old, they are, especially mark, still the best players of their team. the spark was even close to winning the MVP award last season were it not for the intervention of the other MVP.
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ginebra, after winning two consecutive come from behind games, suffered two consecutive loses. the last one, at the hands of TnT was a blow out. thereafter, mark "the spark" caguioa, came out lashing at their "co"-coaches. "it's not right to experiment with the line-up before the crowd, during the game", "i can't help the team sitting on the bench", "JJ and I were doing good during the last two games, why suddenly change it", were some of his words. and, in one interview, he was asked if he was happy with what's happening with his team, his candid response was "no, i'm not happy".
being a ginebra fan,i admit that i too am not happy with them. i understand the thrust of coach siot to give the new players their time to shine and, perhaps, take over from the veterans. however, i personally think that it was not right for him to let Mark and JJ ride the bench most of the time. although getting old, they are, especially mark, still the best players of their team. the spark was even close to winning the MVP award last season were it not for the intervention of the other MVP.
The team is loaded with talents in the off guard position, coaches cant help but experiment from time to time but this certainly will affect the cohesiveness of the team as they arent rotating the players properly.
Playing time is also a factor coz sometimes players played bad from the start but given more time inside the court, they warmed up and start to play better.
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definitely. also, making their best player, and their most efficient duo, sit on the bench for most of the game won't help them at all.
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looks like rebuilding for Ginebra has begun.. a trade has been sealed and Ginebra is involved.. no names yet but announcement to be released soon.. it's a big trade according to SMC sports director Noli Eala.. matutuwa kaya si Caguioa nito o baka siya yung involved?
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heard the news too. well, i hope the spark is not involved. for one, he is still their top scorer, despite the very limited minutes he's having. second, the fans will definitely not sit well with that. although i think the die hards will not shift allegiance, i'm sure that there will be some who might.
kung matutuwa si caguioa sa trade remains to be seen, assuming that he is not involved in it. depende siguro sa makukuha ng team. besides, he had already said in an interview that they do not need a trade.
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heard the news too. well, i hope the spark is not involved. for one, he is still their top scorer, despite the very limited minutes he's having. second, the fans will definitely not sit well with that. although i think the die hards will not shift allegiance, i'm sure that there will be some who might.
kung matutuwa si caguioa sa trade remains to be seen, assuming that he is not involved in it. depende siguro sa makukuha ng team. besides, he had already said in an interview that they do not need a trade.
pwede bang caguio trade with dela cruz of alaska?
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pwede bang caguio trade with dela cruz of alaska?
lugi Ginebra diyan.. they'll lose their best scorer and get someone who'll only duplicate what Intal, Canaleta, Tubid or Wilson are already doing for them.. Ginebra needs a legitimate post presence.. someone who commands a double team at the post.. tipong Sonny Thoss..
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pwede bang caguio trade with dela cruz of alaska?
brader, luging-lugi ang ginebra dyan. tsaka one-dimensional player si dela cruz. spot-up and that's it. he cannot create his own space.
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lugi Ginebra diyan.. they'll lose their best scorer and get someone who'll only duplicate what Intal, Canaleta, Tubid or Wilson are already doing for them.. Ginebra needs a legitimate post presence.. someone who commands a double team at the post.. tipong Sonny Thoss..
Yes post presence ang kulang sa Ginebra, Rico Villanueva and Billy Mamaril isnt dominating the middle.
They dont even have good power forwards.
These days we dont really have those low post power moves like those of Patrimonio, Asaytono, Terry Saldana, Yoyoy Villamin.
Nowadays its more or frontal attacks ala Kelly Williams.
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Danny Ildefonso was the last great back-to-the-basket type of player to come out of the amateur ranks.. the entry of the Fil-Ams and the renewed effort to regain international prominence has forced big men to develop other facets of the game as well.. we're seeing more and more big men facing the basket and taking their defenders one on one.. there's nothing bad about that but for teams that thrive on a half-court set, a post presence is needed..
sa PBA ngayon, Sonny Thoss is the only big man who commands a double team at the post.. he's also the only one left with the right skills to be able to do that.. yung ibang malalaki sa PBA either matanda na or wala talagang post-up moves.. mas marami pa nga akong nakikitang point guards na pumoposte kaysa big man..
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Danny Ildefonso was the last great back-to-the-basket type of player to come out of the amateur ranks.. the entry of the Fil-Ams and the renewed effort to regain international prominence has forced big men to develop other facets of the game as well.. we're seeing more and more big men facing the basket and taking their defenders one on one.. there's nothing bad about that but for teams that thrive on a half-court set, a post presence is needed..
sa PBA ngayon, Sonny Thoss is the only big man who commands a double team at the post.. he's also the only one left with the right skills to be able to do that.. yung ibang malalaki sa PBA either matanda na or wala talagang post-up moves.. mas marami pa nga akong nakikitang point guards na pumoposte kaysa big man..
Basketball is very different nowadays. Masyado nilang ginaya ang european style w/c is basically about ball movements, shooting and running the breaks.
Before its more on shooting, one on one and post up moves.
Dun tlga natin nakikita un talent ng isang player who can create scoring for himself.
We also see high scoring imports those days w/c are a joy to watch.
Now, hndi na makaporma mga imports so parang sayang lng ang pagkuha at pagbayad sa knila.
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Man, Sonny Thoss' name is really present in every trade rumor I've read and heard.. it's weird because he's the only thing going right for Alaska right now.. he's their most consistent player.. pag may lumulutang pa namang pangalan na taga-Alaska, usually totoo.. when Devance was rumored to be leaving, Alaska denied but nagkatotoo rin.. same thing with Tim Cone.. ngayon si Thoss to Ginebra naman daw.. but a possible 2002 Ateneo reunion at Alaska is going to happen kung totoo man yung trade.. Tenorio, Villanueva, Gonzales, Bugia and Intal teaming up again with Joel Banal..
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Noli Eala is feeling the pressure from GINEBRA officials and the hard clamor from it's fanbase ...... they need post presence and they need it now. Enrico Villanueva has made the rounds of all 3 SMC teams - and he has shown nowhere near his old RED BULL form.
Thoss being the best post player nowadays, would be the most coveted one.
ALASKA is struggling - Banal's logic would be to shake things up and just might bite the Thoss-Intal/Villanueva offer .... thus getting back his old ADMU team.
If GINEBRA does pursue Thoss, they should do it with caution ...... Thoss is the best center nowadays - but only by default IMO. I agree that it's an era where the traditional back-to-the-basket players are all but gone ...... and Thoss is the best one remaining (I wouldn't pick Thoss over recent bigs Ildefonso, Espino, a-motivated Aquino, etc).
Thoss is good, but magnified by Cone's deliberate triangle system ..... Thoss might struggle with GINEBRA's traditional plays where the bigs (Menk/Hatfield) flash from on top, rather than camp out in the post.
In anycase, Thoss will still be a good addition to the GINEBRA camp ..... much better that what an aging Menk, an inept De Ocampo and a disinterested Villanueva has been giving them.
The thing that GINEBRA fans should watch out for is the 2012 PBA draft ....... MASTER PIMP Bert Lina gave GINEBRA it's 1st round pick next year - yet another one of it's WTF sale este WTF trades.
The 2012 draft will feature a multitude of quality D-LEAGUE Filam bigs e.g. Hodge, Ellis ..... who could have joined the recent 2011 PBA draft, where it not for a last-minute draft rule preventing Filams from entering (methinks Salud did this for draft parity and bigger spotlight on the GILAS' boys entry).
There's the possibility that local bigs e.g. Slaughter, Abueva, etc might enter the 2012 draft as well.
GINEBRA is primed for the next draft .... they have their own pick PLUS the one sold este traded by Bert Lina.
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I don't know if this is true...
And third, one big trade FINALLY done. Start of “rebuilding” and “fitting the pieces of the puzzle”. – Via @NoliEala on Twitter.
Yes it’s confirmed: S. Thoss, M. Baracael and N. Baclao for BGK. Petron got J. Aquino and M. Cortez. Alaska got E. Villanueva, JC. Intal and R. Guevarra. Kinopya ko lang sa Alaska forum daw galing. – R. galing kay @Sonny Lanorias
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guys, sana may makapag confirm na nito if true or not. =)
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Sayang naman kung bibitawan ng Ginebra si Mike Cortez. He is solid at point guard position para palitan sila ni Jayjay...
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yep solid si cool cat as PG of bgk. sana di siya part ng trade if ever. =)
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sana eto ang mga pan trade ng BGK, DE OCAMPO,VILLANUEVA, MAMARIL puro LOW IQ sa basketball isama na rin c TUBID na sobrang YABANG ;D ;D ;D
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the scenario above has already been denied by SMC sports director Noli Eala.. Thoss, Villanueva and Intal are the names that have been rumored to be on the move.. from fans to reporters to player agents, those 3 names ang matunog na malilipat ng team..
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wow. good. pero sana magka official announcement na ng trade/s para maiba naman.
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this week daw sabi ni Eala.. malamang that's a big man to Ginebra.. Thoss or someone else..
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what if that someone else turns out to be Dorian Peña or a Mick Pennisi? hehehehe! kidding aside, hopefully its thoss.
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what if that someone else turns out to be Dorian Peña or a Mick Pennisi? hehehehe! kidding aside, hopefully its thoss.
Dorian is actually a possibility.. his name has been rumored as well.. malay mo mag-dilang anghel ka.. ;D ;D ;D
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Sayang naman kung bibitawan ng Ginebra si Mike Cortez. He is solid at point guard position para palitan sila ni Jayjay...
he's quite a big disappointment with his PBA career, he's very good in college but just cant show his stuff here in the PBA.
as for dorian pena, with his size, dpat malakas sya bumuhat sa ilalaim for put backs but may pagka soony cabatu tumira laging sablay khit malapitan.
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Dorian is actually a possibility.. his name has been rumored as well.. malay mo mag-dilang anghel ka.. ;D ;D ;D
naku po! mag dilang anghel na ako sa pagkapanalo sa lotto pero wag yung kay dorian peña to bgk. hehe!
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Hindi nga maco-consider na blockbuster 'to kung sakali dahil si Thoss lang naman ang major name dito, si Intal kung sakali, tapos si Dorian lang pala ang kasali. Lame trade ang mangyayari dyan. :)
Pero sana nga mapunta si Thoss sa Kings para magkaroon sila ng legit inside presence.
Btw, babalik pa ba si Menk. He would be a good number two center for the BGK.
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If ALASKA would indeed trade Thoss ..... they would demand value as well e.g. Villanueva and/or Intal, both still serviceable (in Intal's case, his career still has promise) having played under Banal before.
ALASKA ain't like Bert Lina's pimp teams who draft talent then quickly sell them to SMC/MVP teams.
As for BARAKO BULL entering to trades now or in the near future ...... count on it. They'll sell their current horses soon enough.
* Menk is signed for the whole of this season ..... there's been loose talk that he'll likely retire at the end of the season as well. It's likely that GINEBRA will lose Helterbrand & Menk after the season is done.
Like I said, GINEBRA is primed for the 2012 draft ...... they got their own 1st round pick PLUS the 1st round pick sold este traded by BARAKO BULL this pre-season.
The 2012 draft looks to be as top-heavy & deep as the last one ...... many quality D-LEAGUE Filam bigs plus the possibility of Slaughter, Abueva, etc.
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he's quite a big disappointment with his PBA career, he's very good in college but just cant show his stuff here in the PBA.
as for dorian pena, with his size, dpat malakas sya bumuhat sa ilalaim for put backs but may pagka soony cabatu tumira laging sablay khit malapitan.
cortez is a very good player,he could've been a great pointguard today next only to alapag if not for his past injuries.tim cone even said that he could've been the next johnny a.sa sobrang bilib ni tim cone sa kanya naging first round draft pick sya and he was given the starting pointguard position sa alaska.and even now,given a playing time he can still deliver.too bad napunta sya sa team na santambak ang pointguards and shooting guards.kung napunta lang sana yan sa shopinas o sa powerade baka superstar pa din sya ngayun
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Man, Sonny Thoss' name is really present in every trade rumor I've read and heard.. it's weird because he's the only thing going right for Alaska right now.. he's their most consistent player.. pag may lumulutang pa namang pangalan na taga-Alaska, usually totoo.. when Devance was rumored to be leaving, Alaska denied but nagkatotoo rin.. same thing with Tim Cone.. ngayon si Thoss to Ginebra naman daw.. but a possible 2002 Ateneo reunion at Alaska is going to happen kung totoo man yung trade.. Tenorio, Villanueva, Gonzales, Bugia and Intal teaming up again with Joel Banal..
dapat yata yung reyes ang i trade eh
im a die hard alaska fan pero ngayon di na, mukhang pang d league na lang ang laro ng alaska eh, yung mga magagaling nila palaging trade sa wala namang syasay na player, trade si fonacier eh ang galing nun, kinuha si wesley eh sa lahatt ng team na napuntahan nya may breaks naman na bigay sa kanya pero wala talaga eh.
si sol mercado was very promising pero di pa nag laro trade na agad,
i dont think villanueva will do anything good for alaska, di hamak namang mas magaling si thoss kay villanueva, si cyrus baguo ang galing galing dato pero bakit ngayon parang wala na din?
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dapat yata yung reyes ang i trade eh
im a die hard alaska fan pero ngayon di na, mukhang pang d league na lang ang laro ng alaska eh, yung mga magagaling nila palaging trade sa wala namang syasay na player, trade si fonacier eh ang galing nun, kinuha si wesley eh sa lahatt ng team na napuntahan nya may breaks naman na bigay sa kanya pero wala talaga eh.
si sol mercado was very promising pero di pa nag laro trade na agad,
i dont think villanueva will do anything good for alaska, di hamak namang mas magaling si thoss kay villanueva, si cyrus baguo ang galing galing dato pero bakit ngayon parang wala na din?
i think fonacier was released because of salary cap issues,just like what happened to hugnatan devance.honest kasi si uytengsu pagdating sa salary cap unlike those smc and mvp teams
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i think fonacier was released because of salary cap issues,just like what happened to hugnatan devance.honest kasi si uytengsu pagdating sa salary cap unlike those smc and mvp teams
talking about hugnatan, it think mas magaling sya kesa kaya reyes sana keep nila
kakadissapoint na talaga ang alaska
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^ ALASKA's struggling now with new coach Banal .... I dont think anybody is used to seeing ALASKA struggle.
They've maintained a good lineup - it's just the the SMC & MVP teams have taken player recruitment to a whole new stratosphere (see my earlier posts in the thread).
** Fonacier was traded, since his contract was up ..... his agent was demanding a 300k+ salary which ALASKA will not give - rightfully so, since he's good, but not good enough to warrant that kind of salary.
Besides, everyone knows that ALASKA is exteremly strict in adhering to the salary cap rules. Overpaying Fonacier will bring them near the limit.
** Trading for Wesley was definitely not that good - but it was a trade that ALASKA needed to make.
Joe Devance himself demanded to be traded - despite already receiving the max salary (350K per month) from ALASKA. Any boss will get the fits by such an attitude and such supposed league salary cap rules.
** Sol Mercado would have made a great PG for ALASKA ..... but Cone doesnt like shoot-first PG's. When the opportunity to trade for Devance was there, they grabbed it.
Worked out well too, since they won the 2010 Commisioner's Cup with Devance playing his best then.
** Cyrus Baguio has been playing injured for a few conferences now ..... he had an MCL a few months ago & recently was diagnosed with "jumpers knee". Despite the pains, he's been contributing double-figures, though not as accurate as past conferences.
Even Tenorio is playing injured as well - banged-up shooting elbow, for the past 2 conferences now.
** Trading Hugnatan was a move that ALASKA needed to do as well ..... Hugnatan is making the max salary (350k per month), among 11 other players in the whole league. Surprising fact, aint it.
ALASKA will always abide by the salary cap rules. They wont do under-the-table deals & player selling, which other teams clearly do.
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^I've always thought Alaska did very well when it came to trading and picking players.. but lately, their salary cap problems are their own fault.. why the hell did they waste valuable money on Eman? he hasn't helped the team in any way ever since he came on board.. they could have kept at least Hugnatan if they didn't sign Eman.. and why would you sign all the rookies you picked if you are not going to use them? Bono and Quinahan before.. that Fil-German guy 2 seasons ago.. tapos ngayon, 4 na rookies.. so far Baracael is the only one getting minutes.. si Salamat, lately lang nagamit.. they have Thiele and Bugia in their line-up pa..
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^ Eman was indeed a failed experiment, but nonetheless the prospect of having a 6-8" big was about a good free-agent gamble as there was. The guy has the worst set of hands since Jumbo Bolado (who had to resort to using his left, since his right hand was damaged goods).
ALASKA's past Finals losses to TnT (Miller choking again) & PUREFOODS (swept) really showed their lack of offensive rebounding ..... hence, Eman's signing & Burschter's drafting. Both failures, but both the type of gamble that I'd be willing to make.
Besides, SMC & MVP teams have all but cornered most of the talents, hence they'll come the point (which has been the case, the past few years now) where finding a lock free-agent will be as difficult as a visit to the dentist.
I myself, would like to see Thiele see some minutes .... however, he's down with an MCL injury as well. There's been talk he was included in the recent trade talks - however that should be shelved now, since he is injured.
Keeping Bugia really was just a move to keep Tenorio happy ..... Tenorio is married to Bugia's sister.
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sir newwave, you certainly know your PBA stuff very well, i admire your generosity in sharing pieces of infromations that I feel im knowing just now, i have been away from watching the games since Alaska lost the sthreght they used to have so im not really informed
^ ALASKA's struggling now with new coach Banal .... I dont think anybody is used to seeing ALASKA struggle.
definitely im not used to, in fatc i have a feeling banal is a fit for alaska, i recalled whne he was coaching pasig rizal pirates then, one of the stronger teams in the mba parating banderang kapos ang nangyayari, i feel he is not a good finisher.
They've maintained a good lineup - it's just the the SMC & MVP teams have taken player recruitment to a whole new stratosphere (see my earlier posts in the thread).
i dont recall them getting impressive rookies in the past 3 years or so
** Fonacier was traded, since his contract was up ..... his agent was demanding a 300k+ salary which ALASKA will not give - rightfully so, since he's good, but not good enough to warrant that kind of salary.
Besides, everyone knows that ALASKA is exteremly strict in adhering to the salary cap rules. Overpaying Fonacier will bring them near the limit.
now I know, 300K plus is huge,is jarred dillinger earning the same amount?
** Trading for Wesley was definitely not that good - but it was a trade that ALASKA needed to make.
Joe Devance himself demanded to be traded - despite already receiving the max salary (350K per month) from ALASKA. Any boss will get the fits by such an attitude and such supposed league salary cap rules.
so this guy is a swellhead? he has to go then indeed**
Sol Mercado would have made a great PG for ALASKA ..... but Cone doesnt like shoot-first PG's. When the opportunity to trade for Devance was there, they grabbed it.
he would have been huge, perhaps tim cone felt he is not easy to manage too
Worked out well too, since they won the 2010 Commisioner's Cup with Devance playing his best then.
** Cyrus Baguio has been playing injured for a few conferences now ..... he had an MCL a few months ago & recently was diagnosed with "jumpers knee". Despite the pains, he's been contributing double-figures, though not as accurate as past conferences.
now i know, i love this guy since his UST days and everytime he attacks the basket, i reacalled how lastimosa does things before, lastimosa is my idol i only got hooked wiht basketball when i saw him play, what is a jumpers knee by the way?
Even Tenorio is playing injured as well - banged-up shooting elbow, for the past 2 conferences now.
tenorio to me is the best PG i have seen as of late, i know alapg is good but i like tenorio better overall.** Trading Hugnatan was a move that ALASKA needed to do as well ..... Hugnatan is making the max salary (350k per month), among 11 other players in the whole league. Surprising fact, aint it.
350K? woow surprising indeed, he is a good palyer bvut didnt know he was getting that big, why would he suddenly banish after being released by alaska?
ALASKA will always abide by the salary cap rules. They wont do under-the-table deals & player selling, which other teams clearly do.
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^ Eman was indeed a failed experiment, but nonetheless the prospect of having a 6-8" big was about a good free-agent gamble as there was. The guy has the worst set of hands since Jumbo Bolado (who had to resort to using his left, since his right hand was damaged goods).
ALASKA's past Finals losses to TnT (Miller choking again) & PUREFOODS (swept) really showed their lack of offensive rebounding ..... hence, Eman's signing & Burschter's drafting. Both failures, but both the type of gamble that I'd be willing to make.
Besides, SMC & MVP teams have all but cornered most of the talents, hence they'll come the point (which has been the case, the past few years now) where finding a lock free-agent will be as difficult as a visit to the dentist.
I myself, would like to see Thiele see some minutes .... however, he's down with an MCL injury as well. There's been talk he was included in the recent trade talks - however that should be shelved now, since he is injured.
Keeping Bugia really was just a move to keep Tenorio happy ..... Tenorio is married to Bugia's sister.
thiele could have been really good given the oppurtunity and if not for the injury, isnt this guy is the one who looks and plays like canaleta? excting player sayang na injury pa
kung i trade pa nila si thoss ano pa mangyari sa kanila? wala ng matinong center ang alaska.
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these days in the PBA, you can win a championship without a legitimate center.. if Alaska trades Thoss for Villanueva and Intal, they would still be a strong team.. TnT last season almost had a grand slam without a dominant post presence.. bonus na lang ngayon ang matinong big man sa PBA..
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these days in the PBA, you can win a championship without a legitimate center.. if Alaska trades Thoss for Villanueva and Intal, they would still be a strong team.. TnT last season almost had a grand slam without a dominant post presence.. bonus na lang ngayon ang matinong big man sa PBA..
Iba na ksi style ng basketball ngaun. clearly patterned to the european style. now its more of ball movement, at puros face basket na ang atake ngaun ng mga players so those who are mobile and can dribble clearly have the advantages.
A big man who cant run the breaks will completely be useless at parating maiiwanan sa transition.
Before its usually a 2 man game. bigay sa poste and the post players powers and curls his way into the basket or invite double teams for shooters on the strong and weak side or cutters from the weak side.
masarap panoorin un mga individual talents ng players dati.
Somehow i wonder how Don Ramon Fernandez could fair with the style of basketball these days.
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^^^ Thanks for the kudos bro ....... been watching the PBA closely since the early 80's actually - was fortunate to have a family friend (former PBA governor) who supplied us with season tickets - season after season. Also have a few close friends who were members of some teams.
** Devance is indeed either being too dumb (or way too smart) ..... in certain circles, he's now being called Joe "Green Pastures" Devance.
He demanded a trade despite already receiving the league max salary - which would open a can of worms (which everyone knows anyway) about the PBA salary cap rules.
Why would someone receiving a max salary, demand to be traded? It's not as if he's being regulary benched.
** Officially, there are 15 (sorry, not 11) PBA players who are receiving the max salary of P350k per month. Surprisingly, 4 comes from ALASKA (Tenorio, Thoss, Reyes & Dela Cruz) ..... aside from the 4, two former ALASKA players also gets the max salary; Hugnatan & Devance - which fully supports owner Uytengsu's claim that they adhere to the salary rules & invites no question on their integrity.
It's also noteworthy, that no PETRON player receives the league max - despite having perennial MVP/BPC contenders Washington & Santos & Cabagnot/Hontiveros in the lineup. Reigning league MVP, Alapag wasn't in the list either.
What this clearly means, is that the SMC & MVP teams are providing "great incentives" to their players other than the basic salary - which guarantees players dont seek employment elsewhere & shun free-agency courting.
** People shouldn't be too hard on ALASKA's recent struggles ..... they're swimming upstream on an uneven playing field.
** Yup, Thiele is the one who looks a bit like Canaleta ..... can be a decent player - unfortunate he got the MCL recently.
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cortez is a very good player,he could've been a great pointguard today next only to alapag if not for his past injuries.tim cone even said that he could've been the next johnny a.sa sobrang bilib ni tim cone sa kanya naging first round draft pick sya and he was given the starting pointguard position sa alaska.and even now,given a playing time he can still deliver.too bad napunta sya sa team na santambak ang pointguards and shooting guards.kung napunta lang sana yan sa shopinas o sa powerade baka superstar pa din sya ngayun
I noticed after landing in the PBA, parang komang un left elbow nya, its seems it was meant for protection para hindi sya masundutan.
That concern really changes the way he plays. In the UAAP, he's very relaxed and confident with his dribble whereas here in the Big League TAKOT at ILANG.
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these days in the PBA, you can win a championship without a legitimate center.. if Alaska trades Thoss for Villanueva and Intal, they would still be a strong team.. TnT last season almost had a grand slam without a dominant post presence.. bonus na lang ngayon ang matinong big man sa PBA..
but they have ali peek who plays well underneath and complimented by the other filam right?
im good with intal because he has an outside shot and plays good one on one game pwedeng maging go to guy but villanueva? anyway baka nga makabuti kase iba na ang coach eh.
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^^^ Thanks for the kudos bro ....... been watching the PBA closely since the early 80's actually - was fortunate to have a family friend (former PBA governor) who supplied us with season tickets - season after season. Also have a few close friends who were members of some teams.
** Devance is indeed either being too dumb (or way too smart) ..... in certain circles, he's now being called Joe "Green Pastures" Devance.
He demanded a trade despite already receiving the league max salary - which would open a can of worms (which everyone knows anyway) about the PBA salary cap rules.
Why would someone receiving a max salary, demand to be traded? It's not as if he's being regulary benched.
** Officially, there are 15 (sorry, not 11) PBA players who are receiving the max salary of P350k per month. Surprisingly, 4 comes from ALASKA (Tenorio, Thoss, Reyes & Dela Cruz) ..... aside from the 4, two former ALASKA players also gets the max salary; Hugnatan & Devance - which fully supports owner Uytengsu's claim that they adhere to the salary rules & invites no question on their integrity.
It's also noteworthy, that no PETRON player receives the league max - despite having perennial MVP/BPC contenders Washington & Santos & Cabagnot/Hontiveros in the lineup. Reigning league MVP, Alapag wasn't in the list either.
What this clearly means, is that the SMC & MVP teams are providing "great incentives" to their players other than the basic salary - which guarantees players dont seek employment elsewhere & shun free-agency courting.
** People shouldn't be too hard on ALASKA's recent struggles ..... they're swimming upstream on an uneven playing field.
** Yup, Thiele is the one who looks a bit like Canaleta ..... can be a decent player - unfortunate he got the MCL recently.
reyes the tall guy in alaska now recieves the max salary? jeeez why would they pay him that?
about devance, i guess he will reap what he has sown, im not watching much pba but it seems he is not getting much attention in his new team b meg right? parang ang daming tao na same position sa team na yun who plays more agressively, i like pingris a lot becasue of his energy.
there was a point in time na si dela cruz grabe kahit saan bumato pumapasok pero mukhang humina na din, age catching up on him,
nawalan ako ng gana kase parang yung tnt at petron pba all star na eh wala ng balance sa line up sana na spread naman yung talent pool bukod sa nasasayang yung mga players, di rin maganda ang balanse ng team
buti na lang yung rain or shine kahit paano mataas pa din standing.
by the way what happenned to cardona parang di ko na naririnig?
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but they have ali peek who plays well underneath and complimented by the other filam right?
im good with intal because he has an outside shot and plays good one on one game pwedeng maging go to guy but villanueva? anyway baka nga makabuti kase iba na ang coach eh.
Villanueva played very well when he was with RED BULL.
Nagkaleche leche career nya moving from team to team with the SMC group. Too many talents in a team cant really maximize the potential of all its players due to lack of playing time.
I feel with more playing time, he'll get back his old confidence.
With Banal and Alaska, he just may be rejuvinated.
Also i would love to see the Blue Eagles of old playing together in the Alaska uniform with their former mentor.
It will be best for Banal to break the Alaska's current team down then build them right back with fresh players.
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O, si Dorian na daw ang mapupunta sa Ginebra.. ;D pag nagkatotoo 'to, home for the aged na ang Ginebra.. ;D
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Villanueva played very well when he was with RED BULL.
Nagkaleche leche career nya moving from team to team with the SMC group. Too many talents in a team cant really maximize the potential of all its players due to lack of playing time.
I feel with more playing time, he'll get back his old confidence.
With Banal and Alaska, he just may be rejuvinated.
Also i would love to see the Blue Eagles of old playing together in the Alaska uniform with their former mentor.
It will be best for Banal to break the Alaska's current team down then build them right back with fresh players.
could be waht they needed indeed, i hope this happen as I have never been liking any team except really for alaska, the chance might give back the old playing form of villanueva though isnt it that is quite old already?
barachael is coming along well, tenorio, intal, barachael, a rejuvinated villanueva and an old form dela cruz could create havoc for the opponent i suppose
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O, si Dorian na daw ang mapupunta sa Ginebra.. ;D pag nagkatotoo 'to, home for the aged na ang Ginebra.. ;D
di ba ang lakas nyan nung nasa mba puro dunk pa nga?
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di ba ang lakas nyan nung nasa mba puro dunk pa nga?
nabulok na yung pinya.. sa tagal ba naman ng panahong lumipas.. ;D
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reyes the tall guy in alaska now recieves the max salary? jeeez why would they pay him that?
about devance, i guess he will reap what he has sown, im not watching much pba but it seems he is not getting much attention in his new team b meg right? parang ang daming tao na same position sa team na yun who plays more agressively, i like pingris a lot becasue of his energy.
there was a point in time na si dela cruz grabe kahit saan bumato pumapasok pero mukhang humina na din, age catching up on him,
nawalan ako ng gana kase parang yung tnt at petron pba all star na eh wala ng balance sa line up sana na spread naman yung talent pool bukod sa nasasayang yung mga players, di rin maganda ang balanse ng team
buti na lang yung rain or shine kahit paano mataas pa din standing.
by the way what happenned to cardona parang di ko na naririnig?
** J.R. Reyes received his max contract when he was still with his previous team ..... ALASKA just absorbed it when he got traded to them.
** Early in the season, Devance was a starter ..... he's bit lost in BMEG's rotation right now - who has an overflow of quality bigs e.g. Pingris, Raymundo, Maierhoffer, Reavis, Ferriols & Gaco. Adducul was even let go, without compensation, during the pre-season.
** Yup, some wear and tear showing in Dela Cruz' game right now .... he cant knock-down those open jumpers with consistency. Hope he'll recover his game quickly.
** Cardona suffered a severe sprain during MERALCO's initial game ..... he just got back recently, and is actually picking up his game some more. He'll be okay as the season progresses.
UPDATE: This just in ..... Noli "Pogi" Eala has apparently confirmed that the "big-trade" has been approved by all parties involved ...... final step is Salud's approval.
Like I said in an earlier post - I find it funny that Commisioner Salud has been loudly proclaiming that there are no anomalies in the PBA - yet he requires that all trades be submitted to him for review & approval.
Why review something which two teams have negotiated & already had approved themselves?
Arent trades supposed to be governed by known professional sports rules e.g. salaries must come between a certain %, tradees should be given a clean bill of health, etc
Methinks it's because Salud knows that lopsided/anomalous trades do happen ...... he's just there to "Regulate The Greed".
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i was just reminded about ferriols, this guy to was very good but have not heard from him now, nasa b meg na din pala, talagang ang daming wasted talents sa SMB teams na ito, bakit ba kase naging ganun kaya pala bwisit na bwisit ang tanduay before
i saw adducul play once forgot the team pero sa season na ito na din ng pba, mukhang di na sya makakarecover after the bout with cancer.
baka di na rin mabigyna ng enough playing time si devance nyan, mas maganda ang game attitude nila hoffer at pingris, reavis mukhang nasa downhill path ng ng karera nya.
naalala ko si juinio bigla na lang nawala ang galing pa naman nun
btw, there was a player i admire before si bruce dacia sayang at di nabigyna ng break
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^ Yup, Bruce Dacia was a great amateur player ....... I was hoping that he would make a good pro, but got lost in SANTA LUCIA's rotation. He never got a break after his short SLR stint.
Dacia is still playing in small leagues in the Visayas.
Far too many good amateur players, who didn't get a break in the PBA ...... e.g. Echano, Padaong, etc
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^ Yup, Bruce Dacia was a great amateur player ....... I was hoping that he would make a good pro, but got lost in SANTA LUCIA's rotation. He never got a break after his short SLR stint.
Dacia is still playing in small leagues in the Visayas.
Far too many good amateur players, who didn't get a break in the PBA ...... e.g. Echano, Padaong, etc
sir new wave i will try to look for the old thread about old pba players and where they are now but if i cant not find it, i will open a new one but would like to solict discussions on anything about the pba, old players and what happenned to them, amaterur players who never hit it big in the pba and aything interesting to discuss about the PBA in general, hope to get a lot of inofrmation from yuo in that thread and hope other pba fanatics will also contribute, will that thread create interest?
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^I've always thought Alaska did very well when it came to trading and picking players.. but lately, their salary cap problems are their own fault.. why the hell did they waste valuable money on Eman? he hasn't helped the team in any way ever since he came on board.. they could have kept at least Hugnatan if they didn't sign Eman.. and why would you sign all the rookies you picked if you are not going to use them? Bono and Quinahan before.. that Fil-German guy 2 seasons ago.. tapos ngayon, 4 na rookies.. so far Baracael is the only one getting minutes.. si Salamat, lately lang nagamit.. they have Thiele and Bugia in their line-up pa..
magaling talaga alaska when it comes to trading before pero what will you expect,sa pba merong 4 teams ang smc and 2 teams naman kay mvp.outside smc and mvp teams alaska franchise lang ang may chance na makipag compete sa pba for a championship.sa tingin mo ba those teams will give alaska a good player
?yung barako bull naman sells their talents to either smc or mvp teams.paano ka naman makakakuha ng favorable trade nyan?
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i found the thread i opened before i hope ok lang sa mga mhailig sa pba na mag post din dito but lets discuss things na hindi season37 para di natin madisrupt thread ni brader sniper
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,108498.msg1528272.html#new
dami ko kase ng gusto malamn at pag usapan about players na ma OT sa season 37 thread.
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now this scenario I did not see coming..
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/ginebra-eyeing-maierhofer-maliksi
Maliksi and Maierhofer are tall but thin.. they're both small forwards at best.. the only good thing about this is that they practically don't lose anyone if it pushes through..
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now this scenario I did not see coming..
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/ginebra-eyeing-maierhofer-maliksi
Maliksi and Maierhofer are tall but thin.. they're both small forwards at best.. the only good thing about this is that they practically don't lose anyone if it pushes through..
If this trade ever materializes ..... it will be logical for both BMEG and GINEBRA. BMEG has an abundance of bigs, while GINEBRA has an abundance of guards.
However, these two teams cant make a straight-up trade, since they are sister teams. They'll need a 3rd party conduit to get this done.
In comes the Master Pimp Bert Lina (and his minions the Chua Boys).
Like I've been saying everytime ...... Master Pimp Bert Lina, will sell este trade when he gets the chance.
** BARAKO BULL owned the 3rd overall pick in the recent 2011 draft.
Not only was the 2011 draft one of the deepest - it was one of the most TOP-HEAVY drafts in years. You can make a case as top overall pick, for 4 of the draftees.
What did BARAKO BULL do with their 3rd overall pick in a top-heavy draft? ........ they sell este trade it to PETRON in exchange for the 8th overall pick.
The 3rd pick turned out to be Chris Lutz.
How can a professional team trade a surefire 3rd pick, for a relative gamble on the 8th pick?
The 8th pick turned out to be Alain Maliksi ........ the very same guy who may eventually be sold este traded to GINEBRA.
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i found the thread i opened before i hope ok lang sa mga mhailig sa pba na mag post din dito but lets discuss things na hindi season37 para di natin madisrupt thread ni brader sniper
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,108498.msg1528272.html#new
dami ko kase ng gusto malamn at pag usapan about players na ma OT sa season 37 thread.
Yup, above old thread will be a good place to start bro ..... though I dont think that bro sniper will mind OT posts on this thread.
Fire away if you have questions about the old players, etc .... let's hope everyone post there as well.
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i found the thread i opened before i hope ok lang sa mga mhailig sa pba na mag post din dito but lets discuss things na hindi season37 para di natin madisrupt thread ni brader sniper
hehe...thanks, brader.
Yup, above old thread will be a good place to start bro ..... though I dont think that bro sniper will mind OT posts on this thread.
Fire away if you have questions about the old players, etc .... let's hope everyone post there as well.
of course, i don't mind. basta PBA related, shoot lang! ;D we always manage to go back to the topic naman everytime recent developments crop up.
about alaska, dito natin makikita ung kaibahan ni cone at ni banal. the system and the players are the same. ung nage-execute ng system ang napalitan, parang nangapa na ung mga players. honestly, i was not expecting alaska to play this bad, considering that there was no substantial change in their line-up. cone is cone and he is a good coach. banal may have been his able assistant for so long, pero iba pa rin if you are at the helm already.
going to ginebra, it is said that the announcement regarding the trade will be announce tomorrow afternoon at the latest. also, jimbo and yancy (salamat naman) are involved in the trade. and yes, maierhofer and maliksi were the names that surfaced.
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wala na daw yung malikis/maierhofer trade.. the Ginebra-Alaska-Petron trade na daw ang mangyayari.. 4 players from Ginebra leaving, they get 3 in return..
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so, it's back to the initial rumors. aside from the 3 players, they also get a first round draft pick in 2012. is that right sir?
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** If GINEBRA does get another 1st round pick out of the upcoming "big-trade" ........ then they'll have 3-1st round picks for the 2012 draft - this one, their own pick PLUS the one sold by BARAKO BULL a few months ago.
GINEBRA is set for future ...... the 2012 draft will be a top-heavy & very deep draft. Very similar to the recent one.
They'll likely get one of the touted Filams from the D-LEAGUE (Hodge) plus one of the locals e.g. Abueva, Slaughter, etc
** If ever Jimbo Aquino is involved in the trade .... it's a given that he'll wind-up with his old coach in PETRON. Jimbo was Ato's main man in Baste.
** Looks like Joel Banal will get his old ADMU starting five. This should be interesting - Villanueva should get a boost & try to re-discover his old RED BULL form.
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Baclao to Alaska then Baclao, Thoss, Baracael to Ginebra then Evill, Intal, Jimbo and Cortez (not sure about him) to Alaska then Jimbo to Petron.. ganyan daw yung namumuong trade.. no picks involved daw as of this time.. pwede pa rin daw magbago yung players involved..
I still feel like this trade isn't going to happen.. too much of an overhaul for Alaska.. parang 1st phase ng disbandment..
2 trade scenarios daw pala yung balak ng SMC for their teams..
Scenario 1:
BGK - Maliksi and Maierhofer
BMEG - Yancy
Barako - Jimbo
Scenario 2:
BGK - Thoss, Baracael, Baclao
Alaska - EVill, Intal
Petron - Jimbo
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this was the initial rumors that came out. until maierhofer and maliksi's name surfaced. according to some sources, they are still waiting for the go signal of another team. also, i think there may be a change in the personalities involved in the trade considering that yancy has been confirmed to be on the trading block as well.
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Baclao to Alaska then Baclao, Thoss, Baracael to Ginebra then Evill, Intal, Jimbo and Cortez (not sure about him) to Alaska then Jimbo to Petron.. ganyan daw yung namumuong trade.. no picks involved daw as of this time.. pwede pa rin daw magbago yung players involved.. I still feel like this trade isn't going to happen..
sana ganyan na ang mangyari na trade... =)
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the Maliksi/Maierhofer to Ginebra is a go.. submitted to Commissioner's office na daw..
Maliksi and Maierhofer to Ginebra
Jimbo Aquino plus Ginebra's 2014 & 2015 2nd rd picks to Barako
Yancy De Ocampo to B-Meg
subject to commissioner's approval..
good move for Barako and Ginebra.. B-Meg really doesn't lose that much kasi madalang na rin naman gamitin ni Cone si Rico.. if Jimbo stays with Barako, may solid reliever na si Miller at SG.. di na si Avenido na walang kwenta..
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mas maganda yung thoss, baclao and baracael to bgk in exchange for intal, enrico etc. =P
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If ever the trade proposal pushes through ...... Master Pimp BERT LINA strikes (gold) again !!!
** The trade proposals are intended to strengthen GINEBRA's frontline
** BMEG still has an over-abundance of bigs, despite losing Maierhoffer
** BERT LINA will sell este trade his promising rookie Maliksi - who they've taken with 8th pick of the recent draft ..... a pick they got from trading their own 3rd pick (who turned out to be Chris Lutz).
So, in a few months work .... BERT LINA has once again served his SMC masters ..... giving Chris Lutz to PETRON .... and now, giving Allain Maliksi to GINEBRA.
Ababou will be next of course.
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hilo ako sa mga pending trades.
dati two teams lng ang involved but since the existence of sister teams in the PBA, nagiging 3 teams trade na.
better for Alaska and Banal to go all ex-Blue Eagles in their campaign.
then Shopinas and Franz go all Green para mas maging exciting ule ang PBA.
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unavoidable naman kasi talaga yung magkaroon ng sister teams.. kukulangin ng teams kung ipagbawal yun.. 60M pa rin yata ang franchise sa liga ngayon.. walang prospects ang PBA masyado for new teams..
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JIMBO plus 2014, 2015 2nd round pick to BARAKO, YANCY to BMEG, MAIERHOFER, MALIKSI to GINEBRA. still unconfirmed, though. pero yan daw ang nasa commissioner's office right now.
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unavoidable naman kasi talaga yung magkaroon ng sister teams.. kukulangin ng teams kung ipagbawal yun.. 60M pa rin yata ang franchise sa liga ngayon.. walang prospects ang PBA masyado for new teams..
The PBA is actually shooting itself in the foot.
** Aside from the initial high franchise fees, the previous concessions given to past new franchises (PUREFOODS, RED BULL, etc) are no longer existent.
Past franchises were given the privilege to elevate their own choice of amateur players (usually coming from a single stable) .... thus ensuring a competitive rookie team, which will equate to league parity.
** PBA franchise applications go through the eye of a needle, to get approval. See the case of recent applicant, PHOENIX PETROLEUM.
PHOENIX had massive funds to apply and maintain a good team ..... lo and behold, their application was shot down by all 3-SMC teams (which had competitor PETRON) and BERT LINA's AIR21 team (!)
Note: It takes 7 votes to get approval for new PBA franchises.
In the past, the SMC bloc were only given 2 votes (PUREFOODS not allowed to vote) ..... however, when AIR21's Lito Alvarez became chairman, he gave permanent voting power to PUREFOODS. Thus we have a majority bloc when it comes to PBA voting.
This was no coincidence ..... Bert Lina = Lito Alvarez.
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I've learned to stop complaining about the happenings in the league.. the PBA is a business and it's all about making money.. yung for entertainment na sabi nila is pure bullsh*t.. if I get to watch a good game, I have no complaints..
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^ Yup, that's just about the attitude they left us, true followers of the sport ..... just enjoy watching the games.
However, I'm just a sucker for history and the finer details. ;)
OT: Damm, this prolonged NBA lockout ..... the entire season is now in jeopardy as the players union just turned-down the owners latest deal. They will resort to what Americans do best "sue the hell out of each other".
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Those trades are hampering the career of the players. palipat lipat ng teams wlang permanent resident ang mga players. its like moving houses every now and then so wlang mangyayri sa mga players. manuti pa sa UAAP/ NCAA, players can play at least 2 to 3 years if not the whole 5 years, thats where we see players develop their skills under 1 roof.
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^ Yup, that's just about the attitude they left us, true followers of the sport ..... just enjoy watching the games.
However, I'm just a sucker for history and the finer details. ;)
OT: Damm, this prolonged NBA lockout ..... the entire season is now in jeopardy as the players union just turned-down the owners latest deal. They will resort to what Americans do best "sue the hell out of each other".
greater possibility for more legit NBA players to come here though.. pwede pa import kung luluwagan yung cap for import salaries..
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Those trades are hampering the career of the players. palipat lipat ng teams wlang permanent resident ang mga players. its like moving houses every now and then so wlang mangyayri sa mga players. manuti pa sa UAAP/ NCAA, players can play at least 2 to 3 years if not the whole 5 years, thats where we see players develop their skills under 1 roof.
part of a player's life.. yung UAAP/NCAA nakadepende naman kasi sa pag-aaral yun.. you definitely can't trade players there.. ano yung magiging basehan? skill tapos grades at tuition fee? ;D
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http://www.pbaddicts.net/t16853-three-way-ginebra-b-meg-barako-trade-up-for-approval#291694 (http://www.pbaddicts.net/t16853-three-way-ginebra-b-meg-barako-trade-up-for-approval#291694)
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Baclao to Alaska then Baclao, Thoss, Baracael to Ginebra then Evill, Intal, Jimbo and Cortez (not sure about him) to Alaska then Jimbo to Petron.. ganyan daw yung namumuong trade.. no picks involved daw as of this time.. pwede pa rin daw magbago yung players involved..
I still feel like this trade isn't going to happen.. too much of an overhaul for Alaska.. parang 1st phase ng disbandment..
2 trade scenarios daw pala yung balak ng SMC for their teams..
Scenario 1:
BGK - Maliksi and Maierhofer
BMEG - Yancy
Barako - Jimbo
Scenario 2:
BGK - Thoss, Baracael, Baclao
Alaska - EVill, Intal
Petron - Jimbo
alaska is at it again, why tarde a very promisng barachael?
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brader, di na kasama alaska sa trade. ginebra, bmeg and barako na lang.
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brader, di na kasama alaska sa trade. ginebra, bmeg and barako na lang.
ayun buti naman,
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brader, di na kasama alaska sa trade. ginebra, bmeg and barako na lang.
i hope maierhofer regain his old form after na injury, he would fit very well in ginebra's rugged type of basketball, this might be a good oppurtunity ofr him to shine better
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Ok, so here's the final, official and approved trade between Ginebra, Barako and B-Meg:
Ginebra traded Yancy De Ocampo and their 2012 2nd rd pick for Allein Maliksi
Barako then traded Yancy De Ocampo and the 2012 2nd rd pick to B-Meg for Rico Maierhofer
Barako then traded Rico Maierhofer to Ginebra for Jimbo Aquino and their 2013 1st rd pick
in short:
Ginebra got Maliksi and Maierhofer (lost Yancy, Jimbo, 2012 2nd rd pick & 2013 1st rd pick)
Barako got Jimbo and 2013 1st rd pick (lost Maliksi)
B-Meg got Yancy and 2012 2nd rd pick (lost Rico)
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Rico and Alain basically play the same position. i dont know how it will benefit Ginebra unless its a preparation for another trade in the offing.
Magulo na toh.
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Rico and Alain basically play the same position. i dont know how it will benefit Ginebra unless its a preparation for another trade in the offing.
Magulo na toh.
same position but not the same game.. Rico M. will have an immediate impact sa Ginebra.. he plays a lot like Hatfield.. same energy, same hustle.. yun yung isang kulang ngayon sa Ginebra and Rico will fill that hole.. Maliksi will have to contend for minutes with Intal and Canaleta at small forward.. one thing going for Maliksi though is that he has a better outside shot than both JC and KG..
ang magiging problema ng Ginebra with these 2 new acquisitions is that they both have suffered an ACL injury already.. medyo cautious na 'to maglaro and that can affect their respective games..
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same position but not the same game.. Rico M. will have an immediate impact sa Ginebra.. he plays a lot like Hatfield.. same energy, same hustle.. yun yung isang kulang ngayon sa Ginebra and Rico will fill that hole.. Maliksi will have to contend for minutes with Intal and Canaleta at small forward.. one thing going for Maliksi though is that he has a better outside shot than both JC and KG..
ang magiging problema ng Ginebra with these 2 new acquisitions is that they both have suffered an ACL injury already.. medyo cautious na 'to maglaro and that can affect their respective games..
i dont see them fit for Ginebra, both will eventually become wasted talents.
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i dont see them fit for Ginebra, both will eventually become wasted talents.
I highly doubt Maierhofer will be a wasted talent at Ginebra if he's healthy.. he's perfect for their run and gun game.. he can collar rebounds and run on the break.. and he's a solid defender at the post.. at power forward, he gives Ginebra a definite presence in the defensive end.. at the offensive end naman, hustle points ang kaya niya ibigay..
he fits perfectly kahit ano mang game ang lalaruin ng Ginebra.. if they go big, Rico can play small forward.. if they go small, he can play Center/PF and not lose on the match-ups.. on the pick-'n-roll, pwede siya 'cuz he's a mobile big man.. kung sa pick-n'-roll defense naman, perfect siya kasi mahaba ang galamay..
the addition of Maierhofer is a definite improvement on the lineup of Ginebra.. wala nga significant na nawala sa kanila eh..
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I highly doubt Maierhofer will be a wasted talent at Ginebra if he's healthy.. he's perfect for their run and gun game.. he can collar rebounds and run on the break.. and he's a solid defender at the post.. at power forward, he gives Ginebra a definite presence in the defensive end.. at the offensive end naman, hustle points ang kaya niya ibigay..
he fits perfectly kahit ano mang game ang lalaruin ng Ginebra.. if they go big, Rico can play small forward.. if they go small, he can play Center/PF and not lose on the match-ups.. on the pick-'n-roll, pwede siya 'cuz he's a mobile big man.. kung sa pick-n'-roll defense naman, perfect siya kasi mahaba ang galamay..
the addition of Maierhofer is a definite improvement on the lineup of Ginebra.. wala nga significant na nawala sa kanila eh..
i share the same impression rico plays like hatfiled only smaller bodied but of the same intensity and strength. i hope he can get his old playing form back quickly, there are some players who recovers well from ACL as if nothting happens and there are those who have not, am i correct that homer se also had ACL? prior to that, he was very promising but after the ACL, he was never the same player again.
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agree. rico will be a good fit to ginebra. agree also that he is a, well, leaner hatfield as far as intensity, hustle and bravado is concered. plus, he has decent outside touch.
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Rico Maierhofer will be a good fit to any team ..... these types of energy/hustle guys dont need plays called for them, hence will fit right in - moreso with teams having loaded lineups.
Agree that Allein Maliksi will likely see limited minutes, since he'll contend with Canaleta & Intal (both Wilsons) .... Canaleta is getting his groove lately, hence will get the bulk of the PT.
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One more rant for the night ....... cant help it, sorry. ;)
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Pimp Daddy Bert Lina strikes again!
BARAKO BULL owned the 3rd overall pick during the recent rookie draft ..... despite the draft being deep & top-heavy, BARAKO BULL "traded" the pick to PETRON for the 8th overall pick.
The 3rd overall pick turned out to be Chris Lutz ...... while the 8th overall pick turned out to be Allein Maliksi.
So, in a short span of 3 months ..... BARAKO BULL traded Chris Lutz (rights) to PETRON & traded Allein Maliksi to GINEBRA.
In exchange, they will get future draft picks ..... they will draft more prospects ..... then sell este trade them again to the SMC teams.
Wash --- Rinse --- Repeat
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alaska is at it again, why tarde a very promisng barachael?
hinala ko unti unti nang nalulugi alaska,nakailang championship ba sila nitong mga huling taon?wag na kayong magtaka kung bakit palagi na lang smc and mvp teams naglalaban laban sa finals
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hopefully may next phase of trade pa ang bgk and sana sila thoss na =)
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Scenario 2:
BGK - Thoss, Baracael, Baclao
Alaska - EVill, Intal
Petron - Jimbo
sana eto naman ang matuloy :)
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Scenario 2:
BGK - Thoss, Baracael, Baclao
Alaska - EVill, Intal
Petron - Jimbo
sana eto naman ang matuloy :)
Ok, so here's the final, official and approved trade between Ginebra, Barako and B-Meg:
Ginebra traded Yancy De Ocampo and their 2012 2nd rd pick for Allein Maliksi
Barako then traded Yancy De Ocampo and the 2012 2nd rd pick to B-Meg for Rico Maierhofer
Barako then traded Rico Maierhofer to Ginebra for Jimbo Aquino and their 2013 1st rd pick
in short:
Ginebra got Maliksi and Maierhofer (lost Yancy, Jimbo, 2012 2nd rd pick & 2013 1st rd pick)
Barako got Jimbo and 2013 1st rd pick (lost Maliksi)
B-Meg got Yancy and 2012 2nd rd pick (lost Rico)
malabo na siguro kasi napunta na sa Barako si Jimbo.
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looks like the speculations that the recent trade involving ginebra is just a preliminary to another trade is going to happen.
http://barberspeak.blogspot.com/2011/11/bgk-winner-of-last-trade-and-upcoming.html (http://barberspeak.blogspot.com/2011/11/bgk-winner-of-last-trade-and-upcoming.html)
and it seems that the name of sonny thoss will be dragged in the issue again. a center, a struggling team with a high pride...seems like thoss and alaska to me. and i also think intal will be invloved since ginebra will be letting go of a high flyer. sana si canaleta na lang i-trade ng ginebra in case it is really letting go of a high flyer...
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The first series of trades set up a scenario for succeeding trades in the offing.
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looks like the speculations that the recent trade involving ginebra is just a preliminary to another trade is going to happen.
http://barberspeak.blogspot.com/2011/11/bgk-winner-of-last-trade-and-upcoming.html (http://barberspeak.blogspot.com/2011/11/bgk-winner-of-last-trade-and-upcoming.html)
and it seems that the name of sonny thoss will be dragged in the issue again. a center, a struggling team with a high pride...seems like thoss and alaska to me. and i also think intal will be invloved since ginebra will be letting go of a high flyer. sana si canaleta na lang i-trade ng ginebra in case it is really letting go of a high flyer...
i like canaleta more than intal mas laki at mas malaks ang katawan kung mapunta sya sa alaska, baka ito na ang breaks na intay nya.
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i like canaleta more than intal mas laki at mas malaks ang katawan kung mapunta sya sa alaska, baka ito na ang breaks na intay nya.
Have you seen Intal recently? he's much bigger and stronger than Canaleta now.. kaya nga ang panget na ng outside shot ni JC ngayon kasi nagpalaki siya nung off-season.. ang problema ni JC is yung hawak niya sa bola.. he has butter fingers.. walang grip masyado..
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Have you seen Intal recently? he's much bigger and stronger than Canaleta now.. kaya nga ang panget na ng outside shot ni JC ngayon kasi nagpalaki siya nung off-season.. ang problema ni JC is yung hawak niya sa bola.. he has butter fingers.. walang grip masyado..
i was supposed to say that parang ang dulas ng bola sa kamay nya eh naalala ko si manny victorino ang laking tao pero laging nawawala bola sa kamay nya,
i still like canaleta more because he still have his decent outside shot although not sure kung gaano kahusay sa perimeter shooting lately,kaya lang sino ba mas matanda sa dalawa?
although kung papunta nga s alaska, chemistry is a huge factor, mas kabisado na ni intal ang makakasama nya sa alaska and also the coach, at one point he was huge with ginebra too isnt it?
by the way, bakit ba nag iba iba na ang mga coach ng san miguel teams, dati wala si tanquincen ngayon najan na yata tapos si jong uichico coach pa ba? paano ba napunta si ato sa petron and bakit hindi si caidic or samboy lim?
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i was supposed to say that parang ang dulas ng bola sa kamay nya eh naalala ko si manny victorino ang laking tao pero laging nawawala bola sa kamay nya,
i still like canaleta more because he still have his decent outside shot although not sure kung gaano kahusay sa perimeter shooting lately,kaya lang sino ba mas matanda sa dalawa?
although kung papunta nga s alaska, chemistry is a huge factor, mas kabisado na ni intal ang makakasama nya sa alaska and also the coach, at one point he was huge with ginebra too isnt it?
by the way, bakit ba nag iba iba na ang mga coach ng san miguel teams, dati wala si tanquincen ngayon najan na yata tapos si jong uichico coach pa ba? paano ba napunta si ato sa petron and bakit hindi si caidic or samboy lim?
after the injury to Danny Seigle in 2002 and yung pag-loan kay Uichico, Ildefonso, Racela and Hontiveros to the national team, nagsimula na yung pagbaba ng laro of that San Miguel batch.. so in 2006, they reshuffled their coaches.. Chot Reyes moved from Coke to San Miguel, Uichico moved to Ginebra from San Miguel and Siot Tanquincen slid back to assistant coach.. nung napili namang coach ng national team in 2007 si Chot Reyes, Tanquincen was moved to San Miguel to take over the team while Chot was on loan to the NT..
di na binalik si Chot after 2007 and they stuck with Tanquincen.. Siot coached San Miguel from 2007 until the 2009-2010 season.. Si Ato pumasok sa San Miguel coaching staff as assistant after he won with Baste sa NCAA.. in the 2010 Fiesta Conference Finals against Alaska, San Miguel opted to let Gee Abanilla coach the team in Game 5 and 6.. that signaled the exit of Siot sa San Miguel.. last season, San Miguel appointed Ato as head coach of San Miguel.. Siot was moved back to Ginebra as Uichico's assistant..
before this season 37 started, SMC management appointed Tanquincen and Uichico co-head coaches but endgame decisions were given to Tanquincen..
as for Caidic, he coached Ginebra for a while but was never successful.. sunod-sunod yung talo niya kaya pinalitan siya ni Siot.. Siot eventually led them to 2 titles.. as for Samboy, hanggang team manager lang daw siya.. ayaw niya mag-coach same with Hector Calma..
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thanks sir bored ;)
so it measn dalawa coach ng ginebra? ang hirap naman nun parang ang gulo ng diskarte ng laro pag ganyan
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i like canaleta more than intal mas laki at mas malaks ang katawan kung mapunta sya sa alaska, baka ito na ang breaks na intay nya.
Problem with Canaleta is he isnt good with the dribble so he cant create offensive moves for himself. He played center in college so adjusting to play the wing isnt his comfort zone.
Intal is the a natural wing and a better player off the dribble w/c makes him fit for any team that can give him the proper playing time.
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thanks sir bored ;)
so it measn dalawa coach ng ginebra? ang hirap naman nun parang ang gulo ng diskarte ng laro pag ganyan
by name only.. si Tanquincen talaga ang nagpapatakbo..
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Casio has arrived! 26pts 11 asts kanina against Alaska.. too bad they lost but he's finally showing why he was picked 1st in the draft.. a better coach siguro and his team would be winning right now..
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Casio has arrived! 26pts 11 asts kanina against Alaska.. too bad they lost but he's finally showing why he was picked 1st in the draft.. a better coach siguro and his team would be winning right now..
where is he playing?
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i like canaleta more than intal mas laki at mas malaks ang katawan kung mapunta sya sa alaska, baka ito na ang breaks na intay nya.
the problem with canaleta is that he is so inconsistent. and his shot selection sucks. he can sink three's, alright but he can't seem to duplicate it in succeeding attempts. which makes me think na tsamba lang yung ibang tres nya. before he came to ginebra, i was so happy when he was fielded in by his team. i always sya "ayan...makakahabol na ang ginebra" ;D
Intal is the a natural wing and a better player off the dribble w/c makes him fit for any team that can give him the proper playing time.
agree. he was already a wingman even during his ateneo days. and he was good then. medyo bumaba lang kumpyansa nya when he was not used much by air21. he soared again when he came to ginebra. but that was short-lived. that was when mark was injured.
so it measn dalawa coach ng ginebra? ang hirap naman nun parang ang gulo ng diskarte ng laro pag ganyan
they refer to the set-up as co-coaches. but, according to jong uichico, it is siot who has the last say. ganito na sila last season. they just formalized it before the current season started.
Casio has arrived! 26pts 11 asts kanina against Alaska.. too bad they lost but he's finally showing why he was picked 1st in the draft.. a better coach siguro and his team would be winning right now..
i always knew that jv would make an impact in the pba. i have always admired this player way back in his uaap days.
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where is he playing?
Powerade.. they've got a competitive team.. Casio, Lassiter and David all scored over 20pts tonight.. they have a veteran in Celino Cruz.. Doug Kramer is producing double-double numbers every game.. di lang talaga marunong si Perasol..
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Powerade.. they've got a competitive team.. Casio, Lassiter and David all scored over 20pts tonight.. they have a veteran in Celino Cruz.. Doug Kramer is producing double-double numbers every game.. di lang talaga marunong si Perasol..
ahh this is a huge team, i always admire gary david, he has always played well even in the amature, lassiter is one of the best in the gilas team and plays hard nose defense, i like him more than lutz
celino has always been great kaya lang nagiging journeyman eh sayang di nagtatagal sa isang team eh magaling naman lalo na sa threepoint shot.
kramer is not flashy but a hard nose player too, i like his playing attitude walang arte at masipag
i wish somebody else handle this team, sayang si alfrancis chua sana mag coach ulit sya or sana dito na lang lumipat si tim cone
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^ I myself was hoping that a big-time coach like Tim Cone would transfer to POWERADE .... Alfrancis Chua would have also made a decent coach.
Ever since the franchise was bought by COKE ownership (from then SMC), they have struggled:
** COKE dealt then stalwarts Hatfield, Reavis and Mamaril to GINEBRA, as part of the franchise sale ..... or they just pulled a fast one over everyone.
** Though a very good defensive coach, Binky Favis' slowbreak game didn't win much in the PBA ..... besides, it did not utilize the horses that he drafted and traded-for through the years e.g. Yeo (struggled to get his old-SLR form), Buenafe, Cabagnot, Miranda, etc
** Though a stand-up guy, top honcho JB Baylon isn't basketball savvy at all ..... unlike his counterparts with the elite teams.
** Bo Perasol is widely-considered to be the "least-technical" of all the coaches - along with Ryan Gregorio (only runs isolation + everybody else crash the board).
Perasol has often been outsmarted by opposing coaches, moreso during endgame scenarios (ALASKA's last second alley-oop to Diamon Simpson was killer).
Perasol has also made very poor draft and trade choices ..... drafting Chris Ross then trading him for an aged Paolo Mendoza, trading Larry Rodriguez, etc
I recall the 2010 draft ..... AIR21 had the 18th pick, while POWERADE had the 19th pick. AIR21 was passing on it's pick, when POWERADE trades-up for the 18th pick (!) ..... only to draft Jai Reyes (!) ...... then pass on it's own 19th pick (!) .... with guys like Hayes, Thiele & Canlas still undrafted (!).
POWERADE wont go deep in contention, with Bo Perasol at the helm.
Management should just hand over the head-coaching gig to Alex Compton (who directs the last quarter plays anyway) .... or go with a decent gamble like Jojo Lastimosa, who is aching for a head coaching stint.
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i hope Alaska can get INTAL and VILLANUEVA from Ginebra.
They will be a more decent starting 5 with JR Reyes at Center, Rico Villanueva at Power Forward, JC Intal at the Wing, Cyrus Baguio at the Off Guard and of course their Point guard par excellance in LA Tenorio.
Tony de la Cruz as sixth man for stability in the shooting forward position.
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they've done a lot of questionable deals but I like the opportunity Petron gave to Lordy Tugade last night.. the injuries to their team may have been largely the reason why they signed him up but it's always nice to see a good player given a chance to play again.. instant impact agad kagabi si Lordy.. reminiscent of his old Red Bull days..
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^ I myself was hoping that a big-time coach like Tim Cone would transfer to POWERADE .... Alfrancis Chua would have also made a decent coach.
Ever since the franchise was bought by COKE ownership (from then SMC), they have struggled:
** COKE dealt then stalwarts Hatfield, Reavis and Mamaril to GINEBRA, as part of the franchise sale ..... or they just pulled a fast one over everyone.
** Though a very good defensive coach, Binky Favis' slowbreak game didn't win much in the PBA ..... besides, it did not utilize the horses that he drafted and traded-for through the years e.g. Yeo (struggled to get his old-SLR form), Buenafe, Cabagnot, Miranda, etc
** Though a stand-up guy, top honcho JB Baylon isn't basketball savvy at all ..... unlike his counterparts with the elite teams.
** Bo Perasol is widely-considered to be the "least-technical" of all the coaches - along with Ryan Gregorio (only runs isolation + everybody else crash the board).
Perasol has often been outsmarted by opposing coaches, moreso during endgame scenarios (ALASKA's last second alley-oop to Diamon Simpson was killer).
Perasol has also made very poor draft and trade choices ..... drafting Chris Ross then trading him for an aged Paolo Mendoza, trading Larry Rodriguez, etc
I recall the 2010 draft ..... AIR21 had the 18th pick, while POWERADE had the 19th pick. AIR21 was passing on it's pick, when POWERADE trades-up for the 18th pick (!) ..... only to draft Jai Reyes (!) ...... then pass on it's own 19th pick (!) .... with guys like Hayes, Thiele & Canlas still undrafted (!).
POWERADE wont go deep in contention, with Bo Perasol at the helm.
Management should just hand over the head-coaching gig to Alex Compton (who directs the last quarter plays anyway) .... or go with a decent gamble like Jojo Lastimosa, who is aching for a head coaching stint.
jojo lastimosa is the reason why i got engrossed with basketball, if this happens, powerade ako for sure,
gary david is one of the best who plays in his position, given a very good coach, he would have been a legitimate superstar now, not that he is not but david can certainly compete with james yap, in fact i like him better than yap, im not really into the technicalities of things but wouldnt louie alas be a better coach than perasol? doesnt he deserve the chance?
its a pity that there is team as talented as Powerade yet they can not create impact and be at best with the rest, this team might probably be more competitive than alaska given a better coach.
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jojo lastimosa is the reason why i got engrossed with basketball, if this happens, powerade ako for sure,
gary david is one of the best who plays in his position, given a very good coach, he would have been a legitimate superstar now, not that he is not but david can certainly compete with james yap, in fact i like him better than yap, im not really into the technicalities of things but wouldnt louie alas be a better coach than perasol? doesnt he deserve the chance?
its a pity that there is team as talented as Powerade yet they can not create impact and be at best with the rest, this team might probably be more competitive than alaska given a better coach.
Good call on Louie Alas ..... he had a very decent PBA coaching stint with MOBILINE, had won it all in the NCAA (Letran) and MBA (Manila).
He got MOBILINE into the playoffs, but couldnt get over the hump .... IIRC this was during Taulava's citizenship issues.
He would make a decent coach for POWERADE - unfortunately, reports say that he's burned out right now .... opting to rest, rather than returning as head coach for the ABL's Philippine Patriots.
However, a formal PBA offer might make him change his mind. POWERADE would be wise to tap him.
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I share similar sentiments about Gary David .... he has the same scoring knack as James Yap (though Yap definitely has the better range).
The only kink in David's game is his tendency to hog the ball in stretches, rather than pass to an open teammate (back in AIR21, he even Arwind Santos, Ranidel De Ocampo, Cyrus Baguio, etc as teammates)
It's just unfortunate that David has been coached by an inept Bo Perasol for a long time now (AIR21 & COKE) ..... Bo Perasol neither has the technical know-how, motivational skills nor the credibility to lead POWERADE.
Louie Alas or Jolas brings instant credibility .... POWERADE should replace Perasol soon.
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i this time of the PBA where the sisters team lord it over in all aspect, be it having talents and getting talents, its a welcome thing to see some changes in the other teams, considering the sisters team have almost always have a lock on talents, teams like Powerade should always consider the next best option and that is getting a more competent coach, Alas has alaways been a winner and a Powerade team can really benifit from his coaching skills, di naman siguro tsamba yung mga accomplishments nya sa ABL at sa amateur, nag coach din sya sa NCAA di ba and with his son at that,yet di inabuso yung pagiging coach nya to give exposure sa anak nya.
i agree on david's being a ball hog, yan ang lamang naman ni yap sa kanya, may mga times pinupwersa na ni david despite madami syang options, better court sense would have made David a true superstar na talagng di bibitiwan ng team, i hope he has a very good attitude too kase kahit mag improve pa ang court sense nya kung masama ugali wala din.
jayvee casio will be able to show his skills in the PBA pero kung si perasol lang kasam nya, sayang ang talent kase yung maturity di nya ma gain and yung mga diskarte na pwedeng ituro ng magaling na coach
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Have you seen Intal recently? he's much bigger and stronger than Canaleta now.. kaya nga ang panget na ng outside shot ni JC ngayon kasi nagpalaki siya nung off-season.. ang problema ni JC is yung hawak niya sa bola.. he has butter fingers.. walang grip masyado..
College days pa, issue na yan. JC Intal has relatively small hands.
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Saw the BMeg-Ginebra game at the Araneta yesterday. Parang di ko makita yun triangle offense sa BMeg.
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Saw the BMeg-Ginebra game at the Araneta yesterday. Parang di ko makita yun triangle offense sa BMeg.
they're not using it as much compared to their first few games.. kaya nga sunod-sunod na panalo nila.. Tim Cone has realized that most of his players aren't built for the triangle.. si James Yap lang pwede kasi MJ/Kobe role naman sa kanya dun.. hirap yung iba lalo na si Pingris.. and his choice of point guard these past few games shows that he has veered away from the triangle for now.. Urbiztondo is so not the point guard you want running the triangle.. ;D
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they're not using it as much compared to their first few games.. kaya nga sunod-sunod na panalo nila.. Tim Cone has realized that most of his players aren't built for the triangle.. si James Yap lang pwede kasi MJ/Kobe role naman sa kanya dun.. hirap yung iba lalo na si Pingris.. and his choice of point guard these past few games shows that he has veered away from the triangle for now.. Urbiztondo is so not the point guard you want running the triangle.. ;D
speaking of PG,that Barroca guy is doing very good, buo ang diskarte at ang ganda ng kamay.
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speaking of PG,that Barroca guy is doing very good, buo ang diskarte at ang ganda ng kamay.
finally got the minutes.. natapos na kasi experiment ni Tim Cone sa simula.. he's getting the right combinations and Barroca is showing what he can do.. the guy's good.. di lang masyado nagamit nung FIBA-Asia dahil offense yung habol ni Toroman.. Barroca is pretty solid on defense.. mabilis yung kamay at paa at masipag.. he's deadly with those mid-range jumpers.. wala rin takot sumalaksak.. he's a pass-first PG but he's not afraid to take the big shot.. he showed it in that 2OT game against Alaska..
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finally got the minutes.. natapos na kasi experiment ni Tim Cone sa simula.. he's getting the right combinations and Barroca is showing what he can do.. the guy's good.. di lang masyado nagamit nung FIBA-Asia dahil offense yung habol ni Toroman.. Barroca is pretty solid on defense.. mabilis yung kamay at paa at masipag.. he's deadly with those mid-range jumpers.. wala rin takot sumalaksak.. he's a pass-first PG but he's not afraid to take the big shot.. he showed it in that 2OT game against Alaska..
yun nga yung napanood ko, grabe ang composure and magaling dumiskarte eh, i hope he continues to get the minutes and wag ma injure, roger yap is ageing already, tamng tamang pamlit si barroca, i think he is way better than the filam guy
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yun nga yung napanood ko, grabe ang composure and magaling dumiskarte eh, i hope he continues to get the minutes and wag ma injure, roger yap is ageing already, tamng tamang pamlit si barroca, i think he is way better than the filam guy
what I like about Urbiztondo is the "angas" factor.. ang tapang! I remember his best game nung nasa Air21 pa siya.. Quarterfinals against Alaska.. he shot 5 consecutive 3s yata yun.. mag-isa niyang binaon yung Alaska.. 3 on 1 fastbreak, tatlo sila magkakampi isa lang kalaban tumira ba naman ng tres.. walang takot ang loko kahit sa sariling coach.. ;D
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speaking of PG,that Barroca guy is doing very good, buo ang diskarte at ang ganda ng kamay.
agree. of the current crop of rookies, i'm banking on casio, barroca and ababuo to make the niggest impact. paul lee is good, but i think he is over-rated.
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what I like about Urbiztondo is the "angas" factor.. ang tapang! I remember his best game nung nasa Air21 pa siya.. Quarterfinals against Alaska.. he shot 5 consecutive 3s yata yun.. mag-isa niyang binaon yung Alaska.. 3 on 1 fastbreak, tatlo sila magkakampi isa lang kalaban tumira ba naman ng tres.. walang takot ang loko kahit sa sariling coach.. ;D
Yup, Urbiztondo is very dangerous when he gets on those streaks of his ..... I vividly recall that quarterfinals game against ALASKA (ALASKA practically tanked a game to face AIR21) ..... Urbiztondo and import Alpha Banguera carried them in that Q3 romp, towards a 3-point win.
After the game, head coach Bong Ramos was practically shouting during the interviews, "I love Urbiztondo .... I love that guy."
Despite being AIR21's best PG, they relegate Urbiztondo to the unrestricted reserve list ..... a few days later, he was signed up by BMEG.
Pimp Daddy Bert Lina strikes gold again.
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agree. of the current crop of rookies, i'm banking on casio, barroca and ababuo to make the niggest impact. paul lee is good, but i think he is over-rated.
i dont think paul lee can sustain what he is showing now, paul lee is just one of the guys during his amateur days and is not a multi faceted player, my best guess is that barroca will even be better than him down the road,
casio, its a given pero kung laging malaglag team nya sayang.
dylan ababou may perhaps be the best product of UST after Cyrus Baguio, i have to pass on Jervy Cruz as I dont think he has been showing anything in the PBA.
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what I like about Urbiztondo is the "angas" factor.. ang tapang! I remember his best game nung nasa Air21 pa siya.. Quarterfinals against Alaska.. he shot 5 consecutive 3s yata yun.. mag-isa niyang binaon yung Alaska.. 3 on 1 fastbreak, tatlo sila magkakampi isa lang kalaban tumira ba naman ng tres.. walang takot ang loko kahit sa sariling coach.. ;D
Yup, Urbiztondo is very dangerous when he gets on those streaks of his ..... I vividly recall that quarterfinals game against ALASKA (ALASKA practically tanked a game to face AIR21) ..... Urbiztondo and import Alpha Banguera carried them in that Q3 romp, towards a 3-point win.
After the game, head coach Bong Ramos was practically shouting during the interviews, "I love Urbiztondo .... I love that guy."
Despite being AIR21's best PG, they relegate Urbiztondo to the unrestricted reserve list ..... a few days later, he was signed up by BMEG.
Pimp Daddy Bert Lina strikes gold again.
ito ba yung player na parang loose canon? tira ng tira galaw ng galaw na parang kontra tyempo?
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Pimp Daddy Bert Lina strikes gold again.
it just dawned upon me, nag iisip ako bakit pa pamigay ng pmaigay tong taong to ng tested players kapalit eh rookie pick in the next draft, while i was watching the champisnhip game ng PHI at THAI kagabi, i just realized ang titindi pala ng posible rookies sa coming draft, abueva, hodge,yung kasama ni hodge na filam din, slaughter eh di may manenegosyo na naman si lina? bakit pinapayagan ito ng PBA kung baga sa pera prang money laundering na ito eh
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^ Player dealing has been Bert Lina's (and RED BULL's owner George Chua) MO for a long time now .... fortunate if you're a diehard/hardcore SMC & MVP fan ..... but just sad for true followers of the sport.
Former commisioner Sonny Barrios was ignorant & useless, letting the lopsided deals slide, during his term.
Current commisioner Chito Salud, has always stated that he's against lopsided trades - yet allows them to happen just the same.
Chito Salud means well ..... but he just cannot say no to his SMC padrino Danding Cojuangco - who had handpicked him to be a member of PETRON's Board of Directors.
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The next 2012 PBA draft will likely be the same as the recent one .... top-heavy & deep. Potential draftees are Abueva, Slaughter, Pascual, etc.
Plus a handful of quality D-League Filams as well - who could've entered the last draft .... but was barred by a last-minute rule which required Filam draftees to play at least 2 D-League conferences.
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^ Player dealing has been Bert Lina's (and RED BULL's owner George Chua) MO for a long time now .... fortunate if you're a diehard/hardcore SMC & MVP fan ..... but just sad for true followers of the sport.
Former commisioner Sonny Barrios was ignorant & useless, letting the lopsided deals slide, during his term.
Current commisioner Chito Salud, has always stated that he's against lopsided trades - yet allows them to happen just the same.
Chito Salud means well ..... but he just cannot say no to his SMC padrino Danding Cojuangco - who had handpicked him to be a member of PETRON's Board of Directors.
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The next 2012 PBA draft will likely be the same as the recent one .... top-heavy & deep. Potential draftees are Abueva, Slaughter, Pascual, etc.
Plus a handful of quality D-League Filams as well - who could've entered the last draft .... but was barred by a last-minute rule which required Filam draftees to play at least 2 D-League conferences.
sad state of the sport :(
what makes any sport get strong following yung pagiging competent nito, kung maging lopsided laht, wala ng magtyaga, siguro kung may NBA, duon tayo lahat ng post hahahahaha
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and 5 of the 10 1st round picks in the next draft belong tom SMC teams.. 2 for Ginebra, 2 for Petron and 1 for B-Meg.. the SMC teams are good to go for another 10 years or so.. yan ang nagagawa ng pera.. ;D
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Powerade is also a SMC team right?
SMC has invested in a battallion of coaches so a quick transfer will do but my theory is that Lina has an agreement with SMC that Perasol should work for them (like a mole) in exchange for these trades of players.
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Powerade is also a SMC team right?
SMC has invested in a battallion of coaches so a quick transfer will do but my theory is that Lina has an agreement with SMC that Perasol should work for them (like a mole) in exchange for these trades of players.
As far as I know the control of the coke/powerade operations in the philippines was transferred back to Atlanta which is Coke's mother company. As usual tinubuan lang nang SMC tapos binalik nila sa may ari after a few years. Dyan ako bilib kay Ramon Ang ;D
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Powerade is also a SMC team right?
SMC has invested in lots of coaches so a quick transfer will do but my theory is that Lina has an agreement with SMC that Perasol should work for them (like a mole) in exchange for these trades of players.
No bro .... Coca Cola has had ownership of the PBA franchise since '06 (the infamous Hatfield-Reavis-Mamaril for scrubs trade), when they bought it from SMC.
If anything, the past few seasons have shown POWERADE to be on the MVP-side of things, when it came to trades & dealings.
** Renren Ritualo relegated to the reserved list - then signed-up by MERALCO a short time later (very similar to the Urbiztondo "transfer" to BMEG) .... this move is becoming popular, since no review from Chito Salud is required .... a loophole being exploited by the elite teams.
** Mark Macapagal traded to MERALCO for scrubs (Timberlake & Menor) ..... then said scrubs were waived by POWERADE shortly .... with Timberlake going back to MERALCO.
** Asi Taulava traded to MERALCO for scrubs (Misolas & Mirza) ..... Misolas got to play a season, while Mirza was waived.
** Chico Lanete released to MERALCO .... a decent move, since POWERADE had a logjam at PG with Casio, Cruz & Lingganay.
** TnT made room for Japeth Aguilar by trading enforcer Mark Yee to MERALCO .... POWERADE was the conduit.
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Thanks for the info, i thought SMC has 4 PBA teams namely PETRON< GINEBRA< BMEG and POWERADE.
POWERADE is getting no where, they arent pushing to further improve its line up.
Casio, Lasister, and David form a decent backcourt but without a Massive frontcourt, it wont be a contender forever.
Perhaps we'll see Lasister in TNT uniform and Casio in Meralco uniform a couple of months from now.
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i have to pass on Jervy Cruz as I dont think he has been showing anything in the PBA.
agree. jervy had a lot of promise too when he entered the pba. sayang lang at mali ang napuntahan nyang team. his advantage is that he is very mobile for a big man, good footwork. has good ball handling skills too.
and 5 of the 10 1st round picks in the next draft belong tom SMC teams.. 2 for Ginebra
ginebra is really looking good at this point. but this will be felt, perhaps, next season pa. besides, SMC is still cooking up another trade involving the gin kings to get a center, allegedly in exchange for 3 players (center, wing and point positions) who they can easily replace with two 1st round picks next year.
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Jervy Cruz is too small to play CENTER for any PBA team.
He may had an impressive UAAP career but the sudden rise of Rabeh Al Hussani just showed he cant match up well with a bigger mobile Center.
Jervy's style is perfect for a drive and draw type of execution.
Magaling sya sumalo sa mabilis at malakas sya bumuhat pag nsa ilalim.
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I'd say that Jervy Cruz has been doing decently so far ..... no one should expect him to replicate his UAAP career, since he's really he's undersized (and slow) against the 4-5 bigs of the pros.
To his credit, he has has worked and modified his game ..... he has significantly improved those mid-range jumpers of his and has been crashing the boards more (obviously a direct impact of Yeng Guiao's coaching).
Last game against TnT, Cruz was supposed to be the Best Player of The Game ..... not until Jason Castro, once more carried TnT in overtime.
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Jervy Cruz is too small to play CENTER for any PBA team.
He may had an impressive UAAP career but the sudden rise of Rabeh Al Hussani just showed he cant match up well with a bigger mobile Center.
Jervy's style is perfect for a drive and draw type of execution.
Magaling sya sumalo sa mabilis at malakas sya bumuhat pag nsa ilalim.
agree. he was big in the uaap, but not in the pba. pag-akyat nya sa pba, forward na ang position nya, a position which he is not used to, and perhaps unconfortable at, since he was THE center back in the uaap.
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agree. he was big in the uaap, but not in the pba. pag-akyat nya sa pba, forward na ang position nya, a position which he is not used to, and perhaps unconfortable at, since he was THE center back in the uaap.
He actually plays like the former Ginebra import Michael Hackett.
if only Jervy is 3 inches taller, unstoppable sna sya underneath the basket.
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He actually plays like the former Ginebra import Michael Hackett.
if only Jervy is 3 inches taller, unstoppable sna sya underneath the basket.
oo nga. especially considering that he has good ball handling skills plus good mobility. side-step and lateral movements are also good.
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Could this conference be another TNT vs PETRON finals?
Ang lakas ng TNT sure in na yn challenger nlng ang inaatay and para kumita ule PBA dpat Petron ang dpat isabak.
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Could this conference be another TNT vs PETRON finals?
Ang lakas ng TNT sure in na yn challenger nlng ang inaatay and para kumita ule PBA dpat Petron ang dpat isabak.
TnT indeed has a headstart. but the conference still has a long way to go. rain or shine also has a good showing thus far. ginebra is re-tooling and, if they can immediately obtain a chemistry between the old and the new players, can readily catch up with the leaders. they were also in the bottom half of the elims when they last tasted a championship. they collected 13 straight victories before losing 2 of the finals.
ganyan din ang petron last conference, started out slow but picked-up steam in the middle part of the conference and spoiled TnT's attempt to be the fifth team to score a grand slam.
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the injuries to TnT and Petron will probably take it's toll later in the conference.. expect B-Meg and Rain or Shine to make a push sa playoffs.. a better coach would have made Barako a contender but Baculi just doesn't know how to maximize his lineup.. I'm seeing either TnT, B-Meg, RoS and Petron in the finals.. wildcard is Ginebra..
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the injuries to TnT and Petron will probably take it's toll later in the conference.. expect B-Meg and Rain or Shine to make a push sa playoffs.. a better coach would have made Barako a contender but Baculi just doesn't know how to maximize his lineup.. I'm seeing either TnT, B-Meg, RoS and Petron in the finals.. wildcard is Ginebra..
cant blame Baculi as his players are always on the trading block.
TNT vs PETRON nlng ule para mas mainit ang laban.
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cant blame Baculi as his players are always on the trading block.
TNT vs PETRON nlng ule para mas mainit ang laban.
you can definitely blame Baculi.. he keeps Miller on the bench too long.. he uses Danny Seigle only in the 2nd Quarter.. he prefers Leo Avenido over Dylan Ababou at the SG spot.. he keeps posting up Dorian when Seigle or Allado are better post players..
Baculi has veteran discards on his team.. si Ababou na lang ang may trade value diyan.. so his players are not always on the trading block.. he keeps saying that the veterans he has want to show everyone that they still got it.. unfortunately, Baculi doesn't give them the chance to do that..
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you can definitely blame Baculi.. he keeps Miller on the bench too long.. he uses Danny Seigle only in the 2nd Quarter.. he prefers Leo Avenido over Dylan Ababou at the SG spot.. he keeps posting up Dorian when Seigle or Allado are better post players..
Baculi has veteran discards on his team.. si Ababou na lang ang may trade value diyan.. so his players are not always on the trading block.. he keeps saying that the veterans he has want to show everyone that they still got it.. unfortunately, Baculi doesn't give them the chance to do that..
he has a pimp boss we dont know what the team is really up to and with what purpose.
as for Dorian Pena, perhaps he's training him and givin Pena the much needed exposure and confidence in posting up and should he improves, a trade may materialize sending him to another team in search for a dominant BIG man.
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the two new acquisitions of ginebra won't be playing today. reason: still nursing/undergoing therapy for their recently-acquired-and-not-yet-fully-healed ACL injuries....
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the two new acquisitions of ginebra won't be playing today. reason: still nursing/undergoing therapy for their recently-acquired-and-not-yet-fully-healed ACL injuries....
actually, si Maierhofer lang yung may recently acquired ACL injury.. Maliksi had his nung college pa.. yung injury niya ngayon is a sprained knee..
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actually, si Maierhofer lang yung may recently acquired ACL injury.. Maliksi had his nung college pa.. yung injury niya ngayon is a sprained knee..
thanks for the clarification. that was the impression i got with the press releases after the trade. heard that mc47 is also injured, sprained ankle. nice win by ginebra, though.
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looks like the h bomb is getiing ready to explode again... ;D
http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=752795&publicationsubcategoryid=69 (http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=752795&publicationsubcategoryid=69)
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looks like the h bomb is getiing ready to explode again... ;D
http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=752795&publicationsubcategoryid=69 (http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=752795&publicationsubcategoryid=69)
ayos yan additional 10rpg agad ;D
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Hatfield will go down as one of the hardest-working forwards ever to play in the PBA.
However, his return will create yet another logjam in the GINEBRA rotation .... They've just cleared up their guard logjam - now they're way stacked at the forward spots.
Aside from Hatfield, they got new players Maierhofer & Maliksi in the mix. Existing are Intal, Canaleta, W.Wilson, Cervantes .... even Tubid & J.Wilson plays SF most of the time.
KG Canaleta is in a groove right now. Any tweak in his minutes might make him revert back to the ineffifcient KG.
GINEBRA should trade for a post playin' big (ex. Jondan Salvador should be available, since he's seeing limited minutes at BARAKO .... and it's Bert Lina's team .... a "trade" won't be hard to do).
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looks like the h bomb is getiing ready to explode again... ;D
http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=752795&publicationsubcategoryid=69 (http://www.philstar.com/thedeanscorner/articlescontent.aspx?articleid=752795&publicationsubcategoryid=69)
was about to post this, too. pero second conference pa pala. still, it's a very welcome news for ginebra fans.
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Hatfield will go down as one of the hardest-working forwards ever to play in the PBA.
However, his return will create yet another logjam in the GINEBRA rotation .... They've just cleared up their guard logjam - now they're way stacked at the forward spots.
Aside from Hatfield, they got new players Maierhofer & Maliksi in the mix. Existing are Intal, Canaleta, W.Wilson, Cervantes .... even Tubid & J.Wilson plays SF most of the time.
KG Canaleta is in a groove right now. Any tweak in his minutes might make him revert back to the ineffifcient KG.
GINEBRA should trade for a post playin' big (ex. Jondan Salvador should be available, since he's seeing limited minutes at BARAKO .... and it's Bert Lina's team .... a "trade" won't be hard to do).
i was supposed to ask what is happenning to jondan salvador, he was very strong and promising but got injured, since then di ko na sya naririnig.
at the age of 34, will hatfield be a good trade bait still?
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^ Jondan has been fit for sometime now. He's just playing behind Pena & Pennisi - both doing good so far.
Should Hatfield return, GINEBRA should trade away one of their forwards to clear some space (prolly keep Cervantes in reserve) ..... Hatfield will surely be inserted in the lineup as he has strong ties with Uichico & management.
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Ano ba talagang gustong gawin ni hatfield? Make up your mind dude! >:(
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^ Jondan has been fit for sometime now. He's just playing behind Pena & Pennisi - both doing good so far.
Should Hatfield return, GINEBRA should trade away one of their forwards to clear some space (prolly keep Cervantes in reserve) ..... Hatfield will surely be inserted in the lineup as he has strong ties with Uichico & management.
so they also have cervantes? this guy is good but i dont think i see him playing, such a wasted talent if this continues.
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All of the SMC teams have long been notorious for "keeping" players ..... despite, offers from other teams. Just goes to show what kind of benefits SMC offer their players.
Not so long ago, Pena (then with SMB) & Homer Se (then with GINEBRA) were placed in the reserved list, yet did not entertain offers from other teams ..... tells you something right.
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Hatfield is likely feeling the economic pinch in the US .... hence, the return back to the PBA.
Doesnt seem right, that Hatfield will come and go as he pleases .... but he's still good for the PBA. His effort is second to none (probably second to Pingris).
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so they also have cervantes? this guy is good but i dont think i see him playing, such a wasted talent if this continues.
i already mentioned in previous posts that many players do get much exposure thus their game just diminished as they continue to ride on the bench of their respective teams.
Cervantes plays like Dondon Ampalayo so dapat bumuo pa ng isang pang team ang SMC if they will continue to hord on to these talented players and give them the proper exposures so they can further improve and develop their game..
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Ano ba talagang gustong gawin ni hatfield? Make up your mind dude! >:(
oo nga...but i think he's made up already. he said he'll return until ginebra kicks him out.
so they also have cervantes? this guy is good but i dont think i see him playing, such a wasted talent if this continues.
i agree. in fact, in their pre-season games, cervantes even top scored for the team. unfortunately, he is not being used. no matter how good he is, mawawala kumpyansa nyan pag laging nakaupo. not to mention losing his rhythm.
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dapat gamitin si cervantes para confidence builder rin sa kanya yun.
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800th franchise win for ginebra...
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was able to watch shortly a game where adducul was best palyer of the game, i hope this would fire him up and make him regain his old form.
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was able to watch shortly a game where adducul was best palyer of the game, i hope this would fire him up and make him regain his old form.
was that a recent game? if it was, that was probably the Powerade-TNT game.. Adducul really wasn't the best player there.. naawa lang si Quinito dun.. that was a blowout kasi wala yung mga regular players ng TNT..
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was able to watch shortly a game where adducul was best palyer of the game, i hope this would fire him up and make him regain his old form.
Oo nga brader Tirso, namimiss ko na yung dating Adducul, yung mga baseline cut then undergoal shots, tapos sya lang ang kayang decent post defender vs. Taulava during his stint w/ the Ginkings...grabe di makatira ng derecho sa kanya si Asi & even si Ali Peek, di kasi sya basta-basta umaatras sa banggaan sa post, bato-bato ikanga ;)
Kamusta na kaya si Ali Peek, sayang kung di na sya makakabalik :'(
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is it just me or parang ang bilis na ma-injure ng mga players ngayon? biruin mo in this Petron-TnT game right now, pwede ka na bumuo ng champion team sa mga injured lang.. Hontiveros, Washington, Al-Hussaini, Lutz, Ryan Reyes, Ranidel De Ocampo, Dillinger at Peek..
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^ Good observation ..... TnT and PETRON does have more than their fair share of injuries.
They're still among the league leaders though - a testament to their ultra-loaded lineups.
Hontiveros, Al-Hussaini & De Ocampo's injuries were just freak ones ..... Hontiveros & Al-Hussaini's ACL's coming from regular PBA bumps .... Al-Hussaini was never one to have the best conditioning though.
De Ocampo's recent bad nose injury came from a wayward Lao elbow during practice last season.
Meanwhile, Washington, Lutz & Ryan Reyes (also Castro, Alapag & Carrey) were just injuries waiting to happen, due to the massive minutes they were playing.
PETRON will never suffer from manpower woes though as Bert Lina's pimp teams will always be a steady source of players .... e.g. just recently, SHOPINAS "released" Lordy Tugade back to PETRON.
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^are this injuries easily happening now compared to before?
i recalled the only injury prone guy before was samboy lim and its easily understood because of the way he plays, alvin patrimonio played probaly the longest consecutive games and so is dante gonzalgo, not many superstar then get injured that often( not sure though if my perception is correct)
makes me wonder why players right now gets injured easily and at the early stage of their career at that considering players of old are more enthusiastic with ther game and plays their heart out more, ngayon paragn petiks petiks na lagn players eh.
is it becasue of the lifestyles of players now or perhaps their attitude and dedication and conditioning?
about tugade joining petron again, wow you have an army of number 3s or 2s at that already with Petron
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^ I'd say ever since the PBA allowed zone defenses (disallowed illegal defense), the game just got a tad faster ..... the arrival of the fast & agressive Filams also got the action-meter running higher.
Another one .... the massive dip in PBA ratings the past few years have forced the Commisioners Office to adapt a near "no-harm-no-foul" policy among the referees .... this ensured lots of spills, but more than a few injuries as well.
Alvin Patrimonio really was an iron-man ..... had a strong will & his ground-based game (which he's one of the best ever) ensured his longevity.
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^ I'd say ever since the PBA allowed zone defenses (disallowed illegal defense), the game just got a tad faster ..... the arrival of the fast & agressive Filams also got the action-meter running higher.
Another one .... the massive dip in PBA ratings the past few years have forced the Commisioners Office to adapt a near "no-harm-no-foul" policy among the referees .... this ensured lots of spills, but more than a few injuries as well.
Alvin Patrimonio really was an iron-man ..... had a strong will & his ground-based game (which he's one of the best ever) ensured his longevity.
i recalled during the death of his father, nag laro pa din sya.
perhaps less flashyness and simple approach to the game would make your stay longer and avoid injuries
i also recalled my favorite player jojo lastimosa used to be very falshy, dunking here and there, difficult layups but eventually settled down and make the game simple, this is when he earned the tag 4th quarter man.
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i recalled during the death of his father, nag laro pa din sya.
perhaps less flashyness and simple approach to the game would make your stay longer and avoid injuries
i also recalled my favorite player jojo lastimosa used to be very falshy, dunking here and there, difficult layups but eventually settled down and make the game simple, this is when he earned the tag 4th quarter man.
mejo natatabunan na fundamentals ng flashyness at showmanship. nakaka miss tuloy mga player na simple lang pero napaka effective...like freddy abuda!
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alvin patrimonio played probaly the longest consecutive games and so is dante gonzalgo
alvin patrimonio now owns the "iron man" distinction, i.e., the player who has consecutively started a game the most number of times. at the time he "stole" the distinction from dante gonzalgo, he was actually suffering from an injury and was supposedly not allowed to play. he was then tied with gonzalgo with the most number of consecutive starts. purefoods made him start the game and the team committed a foul immediately after the first ball possession. thereafter, patrimonio was then immediately taken out of the game and spent the whole night on the bench.
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alvin patrimonio now owns the "iron man" distinction, i.e., the player who has consecutively started a game the most number of times. at the time he "stole" the distinction from dante gonzalgo, he was actually suffering from an injury and was supposedly not allowed to play. he was then tied with gonzalgo with the most number of consecutive starts. purefoods made him start the game and the team committed a foul immediately after the first ball possession. thereafter, patrimonio was then immediately taken out of the game and spent the whole night on the bench.
brader, parang pilit naman makuha lang yung record :-\
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exactly. in fact, sinabi ng purefoods before the start of that game na ganun ang gagawin nila. at ganyan din observation ng panel. IIRC, si andy jao at si quinito ang commentators nun.
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start na ng quarters bukas...
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All of the SMC teams have long been notorious for "keeping" players ..... despite, offers from other teams. Just goes to show what kind of benefits SMC offer their players.
Not so long ago, Pena (then with SMB) & Homer Se (then with GINEBRA) were placed in the reserved list, yet did not entertain offers from other teams ..... tells you something right.
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Hatfield is likely feeling the economic pinch in the US .... hence, the return back to the PBA.
Doesnt seem right, that Hatfield will come and go as he pleases .... but he's still good for the PBA. His effort is second to none (probably second to Pingris).
hey,don't ignore another ginebra player,willy wilson.that guy even outrebounds and scores in low post against the opponents center ;D
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hey,don't ignore another ginebra player,willy wilson.that guy even outrebounds and scores in low post against the opponents center ;D
+1tb ako kay w. wilson neybor, he's one of the reason why ginebra is one of the top rebounding team this season ;)
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+1tb ako kay w. wilson neybor, he's one of the reason why ginebra is one of the top rebounding team this season ;)
I don't know how many lucky charms that w.wilson have. :D He always getting the ball at the right place and at the right time. :D
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despite his size, willie wilson is one of the top rebounders of the pba. as many as been saying, he plays much bigger than his size. and he has improved a lot since coming to ginebra. it's all about being at the right place at the right time. he may not be that big, and he does not jump that high, but his position and his timing seems to be always perfect.
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despite his size, willie wilson is one of the top rebounders of the pba. as many as been saying, he plays much bigger than his size. and he has improved a lot since coming to ginebra. it's all about being at the right place at the right time. he may not be that big, and he does not jump that high, but his position and his timing seems to be always perfect.
& he is a very good passer too, a very high basketball I.Q. talaga, pano pa kaya kung naging 6'6 pa sya? :D
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& he is a very good passer too, a very high basketball I.Q. talaga, pano pa kaya kung naging 6'6 pa sya? :D
i don't think he will be as efficient as he is kung naging 6'6" sya. definitely maiiba ang style nyan kung tumangkad yan.
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kunsabagay, pero malay mo naman kung mala-abuda kung lumaki-laki sya, I think marami syang natutunan kay Abuda nung nasa San Miguel pa sya
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siguro nga. pero sabi nga nila, timing is one aspect of the game na hindi pwedeng ituro. talent at instinct ng player ang nagdi-dictate nyan.
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a bit OT...parang si noli locsin...he was a monter under the boards despite his height (6'3" or 6'4"?). plus, meron pa syang hang-time despite his weight. pero kung tumagkad sya ng kaunti, malamang wala ung hang-time nya, pati mobility nya definitely mababawasan kasi bibigat sya.
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6'2 lang si Noli Locsin brader, nakakalaro sya ni Tito Jovi bro sa middle east, ang lakas pa din daw :)
Mukhang kabarangay kita ha brader? may best-of-3 na tayo sa byernes vs. ros, sa tingin ko kaya na ng Ginkings ngayon, ibang-iba na sila ngayon kumpara nung 1st meeting w/c ros won by only 1point, ano sa tingin mo?
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6'2" lang pala...he was one player i admired a lot.
yup, die-hard. di pa ako nag-aaral, yan na ang team ko. my dad was the biggest influence. lahat kami sa bahay, ginebra dahil sa dad ko. ;D
oo nga, friday ang game 1 ng quarter finals with RoS. on paper, i think kakayanin nila. they have jelled a lot since that first game. at nugn game na un, hindi pa ganyan ang intensity ni Mark. plus JJ is back. and so is rico villanueva. mga missing links sila nung first encounter. maierhoffer and maliksi are welcome additions, but i think chemistry will be a big factor. kaya i think they will be seeing limited minutes.
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plus ang laki ng improvement ni mike cortez, 3 consecutive best player of the game, I think bumalik na yung confidence nya sa kanyang mga outside shots, ibang-iba nadin yung team effort/chemistry, they play very unselfish basketball, they play now as a team ;)
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indeed. however, RoS is also a good team. gabe norwood and the over-rated paul lee can explode at any given time. their bench may not be that deep, but it is deep enough to provide them the needed support. i'm sure they will play a notch higher since this is already the quarters.
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Match na match si norwood kay KG & even maierhoffer sana kung makakalaro na sya...paul lee vs. cortez, mukhang ito talaga pinaghandaan ni mike sa tingin ko lang
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i'm thinking na baka si labagala and wilson ang itapat kay lee. these two are more defensive than cortez. kay norwood naman, i think intal would be a better match. but i personally think na iba ang magbabantay kay norwood. one effective move against norwood is to take his mind off the game. madali masira ang laro nya pag napipikon. eh sino ba ang pinakamagaling mambwisit sa ginebra? ;D
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i'm thinking na baka si labagala and wilson ang itapat kay lee. these two are more defensive than cortez. kay norwood naman, i think intal would be a better match. but i personally think na iba ang magbabantay kay norwood. one effective move against norwood is to take his mind off the game. madali masira ang laro nya pag napipikon. eh sino ba ang pinakamagaling mambwisit sa ginebra? ;D
Baka si tubid bro... ;D
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Baka si tubid bro... ;D
+1
pero pag end game situation sa tingin ko MC47 will guard Paul Lee.
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Baka si tubid bro... ;D
tumpak!!! ;D
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pero pag end game situation sa tingin ko MC47 will guard Paul Lee.
i doubt. hindi din naman kasi defensive si mark eh. baka si john wilson pa.
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plus ang laki ng improvement ni mike cortez, 3 consecutive best player of the game, I think bumalik na yung confidence nya sa kanyang mga outside shots, ibang-iba nadin yung team effort/chemistry, they play very unselfish basketball, they play now as a team ;)
i havent been watching the PBA lately but if its true Cortez is playing well, then i hope tuloy tuloy na yan. He was a player i admired during his DLSU days.
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patay ang bmeg, sinabugan ni el granada.... very god game by David,, Lassiter and Casio... As I said if these 3 play their best I think Powerade has a chance on an upset...
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what a heart-breaker for barako bulls...
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what a heart-breaker for barako bulls...
their fault really.. stupid coaching killed their chances even before the quarters started.. they could have gone up to 4-6th place if they had a decent coach.. and they could have won last night if they had a coach who knew what he was doing.. still baffles me why he would use Gatumbato over Artadi in guarding Jason Castro..
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Yup .... Baculi did have some head-scratching moves made this conference ..... benching Jondan Salvador for good, over-reliance on Pena & inconsistent minutes for Seigle - heavy minutes one game, benched the next, etc.
However, I kinda like Baculi for BARAKO BULL ..... I give him a (barely) passing grade this conference.
Baculi was a perennial contender during his old AGFA/WELCOAT days & at one point was even considered to be Tim Cone's replacement - when ALASKA was struggling during the post-Abbarientos era.
The way Jason Castro has been playing (since last year), no one can guard him one-on-one in the PBA .... Castro has been absolutely beastin', despite his injuries.
If the MVP award can be given this early, Jason Castro should win it.
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I consider Baculi a good coach. He had his success in the amatuer league, but here in the PBA, its different as uhe has to deal with the team's OLD superstars and thats hard for a coach kya nga minsan coaches would rather get new young bloods kesa deal with these hard headed stars of old.
Castro is indeed playing very and he deserves the conference best player award.
He should also be part of GILAS should they start preparing again for international competition.
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only 33pts in the first half for RoS.. How the hell do you let them score 43pts in the 4th quarter alone?! akala ko ba never say die ang Ginebra? that was a painful loss..
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Now that, ladies and gentlemen, is what you call an upset!
Amazing performance by Powerade against B-Meg. They had to win twice against a team that was on an 8-game winning streak. A team that had Tim Cone as coach. With players like James Yap, Kerby Raymundo, Joe Devance, PJ Simon and Marc Pingris. With the backing of San Miguel Corp.
And they beat them twice!
Gary David just made himself a superstar. JV Casio justified Powerade's choice of him as the number 1 pick. And Marcio Lassiter officially introduced himself to the Filipino basketball fans.
And last but not the least, Bo Perasol and JB Baylon just made me so ashamed for criticizing how they've built this team so far.
Fluke man o hinde, what Powerade just did is something basketball fans would remember for quite a while.
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^ Great game. Indeed it was a monumental upset ...... there was basketball justice - at least for this night.
It took another David (last one was Bal David) for an 8th seed to knock-out the 1st seed.
Aside from the ultra-loaded BMEG lineup, POWERADE was also being blasted by the 3-referees practically the whole game (mostly non-calls on their side) ..... still cant believe that Urboztondo wasn't given a taunting technical.
Despite the odds, POWERADE somehow pulled it through with lights-out shooting. Gary David was DA MAN.
Congrats to my "neighbor" Perasol - though I still dont think he's equipped for POWERADE to contend & contend consistently.
Congrats also to JB Baylon, like I've posted earlier .... a top-notch guy (always supporting various national squads). He still doesnt have the basketball savvy to be a top team governor - but he deserves this great win and whatever success his team gets.
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El Granada strikes again... As I have said if David, Casio and Cio play well at the same time the Tigers will have a chance... Great game indeed...
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Gary David has always been a SOLID player, he just lacks the luster of other players like James Yap, etc.
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Gary David has always been a SOLID player, he just lacks the luster of other players like James Yap, etc.
No doubt about it... He was always the one getting cut or not even being invited for National Teams, All Stars and Exhibition Games.... This guy played against us in an ointer town competion since his wife hails from Pandi Bulacan and he dropped 48 pts at us in a semi finals match.... :D
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only 33pts in the first half for RoS.. How the hell do you let them score 43pts in the 4th quarter alone?! akala ko ba never say die ang Ginebra? that was a painful loss..
a painful loss, indeed. perhaps ginebra became too complacent when they were leading by 17 in the third and, IIRC, 13 points midway of the 4th. they took it easy, but it seems they took it easy too much. nawala pa tuloy yung panalo nila. kaya minsan, mas gusto ko pang nalalamangan ang ginebra until midway of the 3rd quarter. dun lumalabas ang pagka-never-say-die ng ginebra. now, their backs are against the wall again. let's see if the never-say-die spirit will be awakened.
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galing ng ginawa ng powerade na yun kagabi... =)
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galing ng ginawa ng powerade na yun kagabi... =)
pinaka masaya sa lahat ang ALASKA ;D ;D
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pinaka masaya sa lahat ang ALASKA ;D ;D
i doubt it.they have their own problems.this season have got to be the worst season ever for the franchise since johnny a came.imagine only 2 teams were eliminated after the eliimination sila pa yung nakasamang natangal.
tapos may mga balita pa na some key players want to be traded.
while for bmeg,i was a bit surprised that they became the top team after elimination.i know that they will not win the championship this season because of the new system.the reason they won many games is because they veered away from the triangle offense when they started losing consecutive games.
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ALASKA management has been the most professional & efficient crew in the PBA for a long time now ...... however, they wouldn't be human if they didn't smile a bit, with the recent POWERADE win. ;)
Any team with a 22-year old system suddenly being erased, will struggle .... add the fact that both Tenorio & Baguio were playing hurt since last season.
Both ALASKA & BMEG will be okay.
Like I've said, some basketball justice was served last night ...... POWERADE was against an excessively loaded team plus arguably the 3-referees as well. Too many non-calls against POWERADE last game.
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That win by POWERADE, i think they also won the heart of the people/spectators and from now on and through out the tournament, i'm sure many will start cheering for them.
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talo bmeg ko huhuhuhu :-[
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ang bilis na KARMA ni TIM CONE ;D ;D ;D ;D
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ang bilis na KARMA ni TIM CONE ;D ;D ;D ;D
it happens even to the best of them, kht llamado kpa pag natisod ka mauunahan ka parin ng pilay he he
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Exactly ...... though the more accurate statement is "Mabilis ang karma para kay Joe 'Green Pastures' Devance"
BMEG has had sorry exits since Devance was "magically" traded to them by AIR21 ..... though this should be corrected soon once Tim Cone gets going.
Joe "Green Pastures" Devance was already receiving the PBA maximum salary & got every conceivable oppurtunity at ALASKA (heck, he was the stats leader most of the previous season) ...... yet, this mofo demanded that he be traded to SMC last season.
To add insult to injury, he proudly proclaims that "people shouldn't forget that the PBA is a business".
Wilfred Uytengsu said it best ..... "What's the difference between ALASKA's 350k with SMC's 350k?"
Apparently, Joe "Green Pastures" Devance knows the answer.
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Exactly ...... though the more accurate statement is "Mabilis ang karma para kay Joe 'Green Pastures' Devance"
BMEG has had sorry exits since Devance was "magically" traded to them by AIR21 ..... though this should be corrected soon once Tim Cone gets going.
Joe "Green Pastures" Devance was already receiving the PBA maximum salary & got every conceivable oppurtunity at ALASKA (heck, he was the stats leader most of the previous season) ...... yet, this mofo demanded that he be traded to SMC last season.
To add insult to injury, he proudly proclaims that "people shouldn't forget that the PBA is a business".
Wilfred Uytengsu said it best ..... "What's the difference between ALASKA's 350k with SMC's 350k?"
Apparently, Joe "Green Pastures" Devance knows the answer.
Probably Devance thinks SMC is a bigger company and perhaps better future for him should he be acquainted with the SMC group.
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^a better future only goes to those who knows how to look back on people who gave you the path to success.
i doubt if devance would even get to where he wants, this one reminded me of vince hizon, given the chance by ginebra but got lured by huge contract for the MBA, eventually was not able to get his pay and eventually just faded away.
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Exactly ...... though the more accurate statement is "Mabilis ang karma para kay Joe 'Green Pastures' Devance"
BMEG has had sorry exits since Devance was "magically" traded to them by AIR21 ..... though this should be corrected soon once Tim Cone gets going.
Joe "Green Pastures" Devance was already receiving the PBA maximum salary & got every conceivable oppurtunity at ALASKA (heck, he was the stats leader most of the previous season) ...... yet, this mofo demanded that he be traded to SMC last season.
To add insult to injury, he proudly proclaims that "people shouldn't forget that the PBA is a business".
Wilfred Uytengsu said it best ..... "What's the difference between ALASKA's 350k with SMC's 350k?"
Apparently, Joe "Green Pastures" Devance knows the answer.
hahaha...
greener pastures na ata ngayon...kung ako din un malamang - i cant decide yet hehehe
bawi nalang BMEG ko
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it's make or break for the gin kings tonight.
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go go go bgk!
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;D ;D ;D
ginebra, i'm sure, has learned it's lesson and will make the necessary adjustment. BUT, as what game 1 has shown, RoS found the chink in ginebra's armor and will definitely pound on it again tonight.
RoS wants to win tonight's game as much as ginebra does. i expect game 2 to be highly emotional...and extremely physical. expect tempers to blow here and there. and expect double of that if their series go on to a game 3.
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ROS has never had much playoff success against BGK (or against any elite team) ...... however, if they find a way to close out BGK - it could be the start of a trend for them.
Sometimes, it takes one big series win to define a team.
ROS has one of the more balanced lineups in the PBA - with mostly young players, just entering their prime. Their lineup is in it for the long-haul .... they just need to get over that Finals-slot hump.
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ROS has never had much playoff success against BGK (or against any elite team) ...... however, if they find a way to close out BGK - it could be the start of a trend for them.
Sometimes, it takes one big series win to define a team.
ROS has one of the more balanced lineups in the PBA - with mostly young players, just entering their prime. Their lineup is in it for the long-haul .... they just need to get over that Finals-slot hump.
i'm hoping for another UPSET. Another SMC team out of the semis so there wont be a scenario that sister teams will have to play each other.
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if you want to win a game, you never, ever, let an opponent score over 40pts in any quarter of a playoff game.. sabi nga ng kasabihan, "Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on you."
43pts in the 4th quarter of game 1 then 41pts in the 1st quarter of game 2.. you don't have a chance of winning unless your up by 50 already..
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that was a very listless, hapless, out of sync and, perhaps, a very demoralized ginebra we saw out there. it seems that they have not yet gotten over their stunning loss last friday. 41 points scored by RoS in the first quarter!!! :o that was an ominous sign.
well, "that's all folks" for ginebra this conference. next conference looks promising for them...
moving on, it will be a good match-up between RoS and Powerade. both youth-laden team. i'm for RoS on this. However, assuming that RoS moves on to the finals, i don't think they will win the championship.
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Just to shake-up the norm ..... ROS-POWERADE semis is a welcome sight - either one would make a good cinderella story.
Good for both teams, good for the league & good for true fans of the sport.
However, looking at Chito Salud's face after POWERADE's upset win over BMEG (when Gary David went over for a handshake) - the Commish was one disappointed man. ;D
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so what is happening? The winner of the match between ROS and Powerade goes to the finals? and the winner of the Petron Meralco tiff goes to the finals too, sorry but not watching the games
is ROS the one coached by Guioa? if it is i like them in the finals, maganda chances with a champion coach
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Semis
ROS vs POWERADE
TNT vs PETRON
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that was a very listless, hapless, out of sync and, perhaps, a very demoralized ginebra we saw out there. it seems that they have not yet gotten over their stunning loss last friday. 41 points scored by RoS in the first quarter!!! :o that was an ominous sign.
well, "that's all folks" for ginebra this conference. next conference looks promising for them...
moving on, it will be a good match-up between RoS and Powerade. both youth-laden team. i'm for RoS on this. However, assuming that RoS moves on to the finals, i don't think they will win the championship.
buti na lang di ko napanood brader :'( ang sama naman ng depensa nila kung ganon, 41 pts in the 1st quarter? anong nangyari dun? di kaya sinadyang magpatalo ng para mapansin na sila ng SMC management na pilay na pilay na talaga frontman or lineup ng ginebra? ???
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di kaya sinadyang magpatalo ng para mapansin na sila ng SMC management na pilay na pilay na talaga frontman or lineup ng ginebra? ???
di naman siguro, brader. ok naman line-up nila eh. and they have 2 first round draft pick next season. di katulad nung incoming si marlou aquino. plus, this is supposed to be JJ's last conference. kaya tingin ko di nila sinadya un. talaga lang wala silang gana kagabi.
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BGK probably want an early vacation to enjoy the holiday break at next year nlng babawi with a much improved line up.
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ROS was just hot from everywhere, all night long ...... much like POWERADE was, during Q4 & OT of it's knockout game versus BMEG.
GINEBRA is widely viewed now by fans, as the 3rd wheel in the SMC family - despite arguably being the most consistent performing team, ahead of both BMEG & PETRON.
In some ways this is true, since Non & Eala has stacked both PETRON & BMEG with talent ..... courtesy of Pimp Daddy Bert Lina, of course.
GINEBRA has also been provided with talent; courtesy mostly of then RED BULL & Bert Lina teams ..... however the talent was mainly of the PG/SG variety e.g. Baguio, Cortez, Intal, Miller, C.Cruz, J.Wilson (draft rights via R.BULL), etc.
I'd say, some of the fault lies with Jong Uichico. Through the years, GINEBRA has had the oppurtunity to draft (Sena, Matias, Rodriguez, Llagas, Acibar, etc) or develop some of it's bigs (Kramer, Villanueva, Cervantez, etc) ..... yet Uichico insists on his small-ball plan - will make for exciting games, yet will usually fail against the other elite teams.
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ROS was just hot from everywhere, all night long ...... much like POWERADE was, during Q4 & OT of it's knockout game versus BMEG.
GINEBRA is widely viewed now by fans, as the 3rd wheel in the SMC family - despite arguably being the most consistent performing team, ahead of both BMEG & PETRON.
In some ways this is true, since Non & Eala has stacked both PETRON & BMEG with talent ..... courtesy of Pimp Daddy Bert Lina, of course.
GINEBRA has also been provided with talent; courtesy mostly of then RED BULL & Bert Lina teams ..... however the talent was mainly of the PG/SG variety e.g. Baguio, Cortez, Intal, Miller, C.Cruz, J.Wilson (draft rights via R.BULL), etc.
I'd say, some of the fault lies with Jong Uichico. Through the years, GINEBRA has had the oppurtunity to draft (Sena, Matias, Rodriguez, Llagas, Acibar, etc) or develop some of it's bigs (Kramer, Villanueva, Cervantez, etc) ..... yet Uichico insists on his small-ball plan - will make for exciting games, yet will usually fail against the other elite teams.
Ginebra's success through out the years has always been the HELTERBRAND and CAGUIOA Combo plus the still reliable MENK so somehow they havent changed their style yet to play BIG.
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Ginebra's success through out the years has always been the HELTERBRAND and CAGUIOA Combo plus the still reliable MENK so somehow they havent changed their style yet to play BIG.
yeah. however, we don't see the "menk of old" these days....it's the "old menk" that we now see (very seldom at that) on the hard court, and they can't seem to find a decent replacement for him. the H-Bomb will be back next conference, that would be an additional brute force underneath. but i think menk is on his way out already. he gets injured, rests for a number of games, plays a few and gets injured again. it's time to give reil cervantes his break. unfortunately, he's not getting it. i'm not so sure but was he placed on the reserved list?
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I don't think Ginebra was really expected to go deep this conference.. they had too many injuries here and there.. kaya nga they made that trade eh.. next conference would be a better one for them.. Hatfield coming back.. Maierhofer getting healthy already.. kahit wala na si JJ, Mike Cortez' game is back na rin naman.. same goes with Caguioa.. pati si Rico Villanueva and Mamaril are doing way better.. tapos nakukuha na uli nina Canaleta at Intal yung confidence nila.. they get a good 7-footer import to man the paint and they're good to go..
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Tuloy tuloy din un ratchada ng pagsadsad ni Coach Siot. Minalas na sya with SMB then this time again with his old partner Coach Jong. talagang ganun ang life parang bola minsan nsa taas minsan nsa baba. Before Coach Siot had great success that lead to his promotion to HEAD coach of SMB.
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next conference would be a better one for them.. Hatfield coming back.. Maierhofer getting healthy already.. kahit wala na si JJ, Mike Cortez' game is back na rin naman.. same goes with Caguioa.. pati si Rico Villanueva and Mamaril are doing way better.. tapos nakukuha na uli nina Canaleta at Intal yung confidence nila.. they get a good 7-footer import to man the paint and they're good to go..
indeed, the next conference looks bright for them. but i hope JJ returns. nakita naman natin na he still has it. as for an import, there is a clamor for them to bring back chris alexander.
Coach Siot had great success that lead to his promotion to HEAD coach of SMB.
siot was the assisstant of allan caidic before he became head coach of ginebra. after giving ginebra a couple of championships, he was sent to smb and jong to ginebra. smb got two (iirc) championships with siot, then was shipped back to ginebra as jong's asisstant. then became a co-coach this season.
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actually, Siot went to SMB when Chot Reyes was loaned to the National Team.. di na siya tinanggal dahil naging sentimental favorite siya after leading SMB to that beeracle run where they came from the wild card phase up to the semis..
when SMB started loading up its lineup with stars, nahirapan si Siot mag-ikot ng tao.. he was pressured to win considering the talent he had on his team.. he just won 1 championship with SMB and that was in the 2009 Fiesta Conference when they had Gabe Freeman as import and against Jong and Ginebra.. he brought SMB back to the finals in the 2010 Fiesta Conference against Alaska but he was replaced by Gee Abanilla in Game 5 and 6..
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what a great offensive game by Gary David 32 points and Marcio Lassiter 30 points.
I cheer for the underdog POWERADE what ever the result of their campaign maybe this season.
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what a great offensive game by Gary David 32 points and Marcio Lassiter 30 points.
I cheer for the underdog POWERADE what ever the result of their campaign maybe this season.
putek talaga lakas ni el granada lage..
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ARWIN for MVP. Grabe tlga maglaro yng PAYAT na yan. hndi man lng nasasaktan sa banggaan. lakas pa sa rebound at shoots very well pa from the outside.
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ARWIN for MVP. Grabe tlga maglaro yng PAYAT na yan. hndi man lng nasasaktan sa banggaan. lakas pa sa rebound at shoots very well pa from the outside.
I think no one will agree with you that Arwind shoots very well from the outside.. ;D Swerte lang yung mga pinapasok niya..
But I do agree that he really is playing like an MVP these days.. yung depensa at rebounding niya ang nagpapatakbo ng opensa niya.. swerte rin siya ngayon kasi yung game ng mga kakampi niya, bagay sa laro niya.. but Petron has to get their guards going every game para sila manalo.. Cabagnot, Yeo and Miranda had great games tonight.. if they are consistent, they'll win this series.. what surprises me in this series is the performance of Petron's big men.. by any indication, TnT should be outplaying them but Rob Reyes and Danny I are giving them a fight..
Both semis series are actually evenly matched.. di mo talaga masasabi kung sino mananalo.. talent and skills wise, lamang ang TnT at RoS.. sipag at puso na lang ginagamit ng Powerade at Petron..
I want Powerade to win the other series but I do love to see a Yeng Guiao coached team in the Finals.. mas exciting pag andun si Yeng.. Petron-RoS would be nice kasi parehong palaban at maangas yung coaches.. ;D
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Actually Ranidel de Ocampo hasnt been playing well so TNT has to rely on Japet to give them a boost in adrenalin.
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I think no one will agree with you that Arwind shoots very well from the outside.. ;D Swerte lang yung mga pinapasok niya..
But I do agree that he really is playing like an MVP these days.. yung depensa at rebounding niya ang nagpapatakbo ng opensa niya.. swerte rin siya ngayon kasi yung game ng mga kakampi niya, bagay sa laro niya.. but Petron has to get their guards going every game para sila manalo.. Cabagnot, Yeo and Miranda had great games tonight.. if they are consistent, they'll win this series.. what surprises me in this series is the performance of Petron's big men.. by any indication, TnT should be outplaying them but Rob Reyes and Danny I are giving them a fight..
Both semis series are actually evenly matched.. di mo talaga masasabi kung sino mananalo.. talent and skills wise, lamang ang TnT at RoS.. sipag at puso na lang ginagamit ng Powerade at Petron..
I want Powerade to win the other series but I do love to see a Yeng Guiao coached team in the Finals.. mas exciting pag andun si Yeng.. Petron-RoS would be nice kasi parehong palaban at maangas yung coaches.. ;D
pareho pang kapampangan. magmurahan man sila magkakaintindihan pa rin ;D
Rob Reyes can match up with the TnT big men in height, heft, power, and aggressiveness but lacks the athleticism of the TnT big men. Ildefonso cannot match up with the height, heft, power, aggressiveness, and athleticism of the TnT big men. He is not the brash, two-time MVP, raise-the-roof type of player he was in his younger days. He knows he is at the end of his basketball career and yet he still finds ways to contribute. He still has the heart of a champion. With Baclao and Sharma seeing limited playing time, Santos, Reyes, and Ildefonso's abilities are maximized, which cannot be said of the TnT big men.
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interesting to see Agustin and Guiao coaching against each other.
i still remember BATA ni Guiao si Agustin during his RFM days both in the amateur and in the PBA.
Guiao's favorite plays for Agustin those days were the Back Door Plays.
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Ato Agustin has seemingly picked up a lot from Yeng Guiao ..... IIRC, Agustin's last PBA stint was with the old RED BULL team.
I see a lot of Guiao in Agustin's style of coaching ..... preference to tough-minded players, toughening up those who arent, letting the players play through rough spots, equal-opportunity offense (though Cabagnot will drive the plays), etc.
One thing is definite, Ato Agustin hasn't followed the Ron Jacobs-school of slowdown, motion offense which has produced more than a few disciples e.g. Uichico, Tanquincen, Favis, Altamirano, etc.
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lufet pala talaga ni gary david...nagliliyab na! ;D
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MVP na yan c El Granada.. Haha goodbye pba ata pasabog nyan lagi eh...
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MVP na yan c El Granada.. Haha goodbye pba ata pasabog nyan lagi eh...
wasnt able to watch the game tonight. Who won and how many points did Gary David made tonite?
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wasnt able to watch the game tonight. Who won and how many points did Gary David made tonite?
Powerade won in overtime 104-99. Gary David made 31 points, 20 in the 4th quarter and OT periods.
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Powerade won in overtime 104-99. Gary David made 31 points, 20 in the 4th quarter and OT periods.
wow he should be recognized this season and be crowned MVP at last w/c he truly deserve .
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Powerade won in overtime 104-99. Gary David made 31 points, 20 in the 4th quarter and OT periods.
5 straight games na 30+ points si GARY :o :o :o
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the last time gary played liked that was also in the semis when they entered the finals. 2008, IIRC. but they did not win the crown that year. but this conference may prove to be different. gary now has a stronger support the last time around.
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Bakbakan nanaman mamya PETRON vs TNT.
The games have come alive again in the PBA since last conference/season.
i hope its goes full length GAME 7 para pati coaches magkainitan.
ATO calling CHOT a sissy Lol. . . .
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Bakbakan nanaman mamya PETRON vs TNT.
The games have come alive again in the PBA since last conference/season.
i hope its goes full length GAME 7 para pati coaches magkainitan.
ATO calling CHOT a sissy Lol. . . .
ihirit ni ATO yan kay coach yeng... tingnan natin kung ano mangyari... =)
yeng and ato are both from pampanga by the way. =)
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galing ng petron!
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galing ng petron!
The intensity was great just like how the former Jaworski led Ginebra team played "Never Say Die".
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6th consecutive 30 points games by David.
Any other local player in PBA history to have done that?
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^ In my 3 decades of PBA watching, cant recall anyone else making that feat.
There have been many great scoring binges before e.g. Adornado, Co, Brown, Caidic, Asaytono, Meneses, Duremdes, etc ..... but not for 5-6 consecutive games.
Despite the earlier bad loss, Gary David is obviously still in a zone right now ..... no other recourse for Perasol but to "ride the bull, see where it takes him" ..... the very same words used by Ron Jacobs before, when Asaytono was deep in his scoring streaks.
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^ In my 3 decades of PBA watching, cant recall anyone else making that feat.
There have been many great scoring binges before e.g. Adornado, Co, Brown, Caidic, Asaytono, Meneses, Duremdes, etc ..... but not for 5-6 consecutive games.
Despite the earlier bad loss, Gary David is obviously still in a zone right now ..... no other recourse for Perasol but to "ride the bull, see where it takes him" ..... the very same words used by Ron Jacobs before, when Asaytono was deep in his scoring streaks.
"We live or die with the SWORD." those were the words of Jacobs when he was coaching San Miguel with Asaytona spearheading the attack.
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On other news, Jong Uichico has left Ginebra and the SMC organization and moved to the Smart Gilas program of SBP and MVP.. and the rivalry goes on.. ;D
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that's MVP for you. there's news that MVP is also "recruiting" Tim Cone.
still on other news...Ginebra has a balik-import for the next conference. Chris "toothpick" Alexander.
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Jong Uichico leaving the SMC camp ..... If this is confirmed, it does clear-up the confusing coaching situation in GINEBRA ...... SMART-GILAS gains a decent replacement for Toroman.
This would be the first instance in an extremely loooooong time that Uichico leaves the skirts of Danding Cojuancgo.
I had long considered Jong Uichico to the be the luckiest coach in all of professional sport - where else do you see a billionare crony sponsoring someone since college.
Uichico was a very marginal collegiate player - yet Danding had him (and a few other DLSU players) become members of the Northern Cement national squad ..... then it was a DLSU coaching stint (with Ron Jacobs behind the bench, to boot) .... then PBA coaching stints - all amply supported & managed.
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Uichico coaching Smart GILAS? Kaya ba nya yan?
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confirmed na yata, sir. some of his players have already expressed "thank yous" to coach jong. on a lighter note, it does relieve the confusion in the ginebra bench. with that development, coach siot would have a free hand as far as coaching is concerned. kahit na sabihin nilang si siot ang "lead" coach, may say pa din si jong as far as running the team is concerned. and the best part is, personally, the gilas national team would now have a Pinoy coach.
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Uichico coaching Smart GILAS? Kaya ba nya yan?
kaya naman siguro sir. medyo malawak naman na ang coaching experience ni coach jong eh. and he has had several international exposures na din naman.
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Jong Uichico would make a decent coach for GILAS 2.0 ...... just got to make sure that Marcus Douthit is on-board & completely healthy - he is the main key.
Also, need to select the right collegiate crew and get the right PBA reinforcements - and get them early!
Having Uichico as GILAS 2.0 head-coach might just see SMC finally lending it's players to the national team ..... it was no secret that Toroman wanted James Yap & Arwind Santos for the GILAS training pool.
It was just unfortunate that basketball & corporate politics reared it's ugly head (once again) during the GILAS 1.0 stint.
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I thought CHOT Reyes will pilot Gilas 2 and Norman Black to the PBA TNT.
I cant figure out the idea of JONG coaching Gilas 2 unless he has a free hand to choose his staffs.
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^ Same here ..... I thought the plan was for Chot Reyes to go to GILAS 2.0 and Black to make his PBA coaching return via TnT. This has been in the grapevine for sometime now.
Uichico will naturally get to pick some of his own staff e.g. Sauler, Abuda, etc ...... if Binky Favis is still up for it, he'd make it (Favis' scouting was impecabble during the Uichico's last stint with national team).
Anyways, nothing is official yet ..... let's wait for the word from AKTV.
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Jong is confirmed to be leaving Ginebra to be part of the Smart Gilas program.. as of now, part pa lang siya ng coaching pool ng Gilas.. he hasn't been named head coach.. iniwan na siya ng SMC eh.. this is a good move for him.. I think SMC is is slowly moving away from the Cojuangco/Ron Jacobs influence.. Ramon Ang seems to be really running it now and Noli Eala has been on the forefront of basketball operations for them lately..
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or could it be that Chot is losing out on MVP due to recent setbacks of TnT?
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Probably JONG is doin a TIM CONE via a career move.
He served SMC very long under Cojuangco's full support so its quite a surprise for him to leave SMC.
Lots of candidates in the waiting should CHOT disappoints MVP.
There's the OLD BLACK MAGIC and Frankie Lim just waitin to be tapped.
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it will be a good thing na rin for BGK, one coach na lang ulit.
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it will be a good thing na rin for BGK, one coach na lang ulit.
ONE HEAD COACH plus half a dozen or more assistant coaches.
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By a mile ....... PETRON has the most number of assistant coaches, consultants, staff, etc. ;D
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By a mile ....... PETRON has the most number of assistant coaches, consultants, staff, etc. ;D
Eventually they'll make it 1:1 ratio assistant coaches and players.
i can imagine how their coaching staffs plan games, inuman ng San Miguel seated around a round table.
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By a mile ....... PETRON has the most number of assistant coaches, consultants, staff, etc. ;D
WOW!dami pala patabaing baboy hehe sayang pera ;D
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I'm enjoying the semis so far but the officiating is very inconsistent.. this play is just one example..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYOKby7216w
you can see the referee raise his hand to signal a foul tapos sabay bawi.. you can even hear the whistle.. napansin ko na 'to last game..
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naiyak na naman ang TnT ;D
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Petron just know how to win during the last few minutes of the game.
Very convincing wins all came from behind. Even if they were behind for 3 quarters every game, they kept their composure and didnt gave up in defense, forcing errors/turn overs from TNT, shared the ball in offense and made all the BIG baskets.
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it is in these stage of the tournament when the level of play of some players, and of a team as a whole, goes up several notches higher. everything to gain, nothing to lose.
however, it is also during these stages of the tournament that officiating almost always begin to suck.
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After 4 years Lakay Danny I. show his true game! Galing ng Petron! ;D ;D ;D
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i hope its gonna be a ROS vs PETRON PBA FInals.
mas maganda ang bakbakan although malang tlga sa talent ang Petron.
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Great great win by Powerade... the 30 pt streak of el granada is snapped but monster game by Casio and great game by Lassiter... Just as expected when these 3 have very good games Powerade will always have a chance to win...
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ganda ng ball movement ng Petron very smooth well oiled.
i used to believe Lassiter is the better player compared to Lutz but un pinapakita ngaun ni Lutz is making me think otherwise.
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I think Lutz will always be the better player because of his passion and intensity.. All-out palagi binibigay niya.. Lassiter disappears more often than not.. Lutz may be off offensively on some games pero yung hustle at depensa niya di tumitigil.. si Lassiter pag di nakaka-shoot, frustrated agad at wala ng naitutulong sa game.. Lutz, I think, is the only player left this season who has scored in double figures in all the games he has played.. tapos he leads the league in steals pa.. injury lang katapat niya..
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During Gilas international stint, i'm more impressed with Lassiter than Lutz but tonite is just a different story.
Lutz just dazzled on the court too bad Petron didnt win the game when he shined most.
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Petron didnt win the game when he shined most.
It was refs won it... ??? I am not a Petron fan but so many questionable calls by the refs that favored the Texters... Tsk tsk tsk sayang ang kita isang game kasi... well at least double header pa din tayo sa Sunday...
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It was refs won it... ??? I am not a Petron fan but so many questionable calls by the refs that favored the Texters... Tsk tsk tsk sayang ang kita isang game kasi... well at least double header pa din tayo sa Sunday...
totally agree with this.. shooting foul lahat ng tawag against Petron kahit na hindi naman in the act yung player ng TnT.. wala rin sa penalty yung Petron that time.. pero pag Petron, same situation, inbound lang, walang continuation..
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It was refs won it... ??? I am not a Petron fan but so many questionable calls by the refs that favored the Texters... Tsk tsk tsk sayang ang kita isang game kasi... well at least double header pa din tayo sa Sunday...
fair n square. the PBA would want it all the way to game 7.
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Wasn't able to watch the 2nd half of the PETRON-TnT game last night ...... heard from a ton of rants that the referees whistle did favor TnT a lot during Q4.
This kind of situation has happened many, many times before - epic series between two popular teams ...... PBA (or someone) seemingly coercing the series to go the long route (6-7 games).
I recall one Finals series not too long ago - Danny Ildefonso was continuously shouting "luto" at the closing seconds of the game ..... his SMB team was against a sister team no less.
Also, a former classmate of mine was cousin to a famous player, during the great heydays of the old PUREFOODS team ....... since that PUREFOODS team was always in Finals contention, my classmate would at times give our barkada "tips or scenarios" - let's just say that he was always spot-on on who would win or who would lose a crucial game.
Well, this happened years ago ..... the good thing is, we get to see another double-header tomorrow.
I personally like the POWERADE-ROS series a tad bit more ...... POWERADE players just running on heart, while ROS sticking to it's equal-opportunity offense. Great stuff.
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it doesnt really matter about the ref's calls. what matters most is who makes the BIG shots in those crucial stages of the game.
Game 3 was clearly a TNT victory but some missed free throws by Ali Peek and of course that 3 ball by Cabognot spelled the difference.
Last night those 2 consecutive treys by Santos and Ildefonso gave the lead to Petron 91-90 but in the return play, the 3 ball by Alapag from the corner was crucial. had he missed, Petron could have sealed the game/series.
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JV Casio or Paul Lee ?
I recall a couple of articles just prior to the 2011 PBA draft ..... making cases for JV Casio and Paul Lee as the 1st overall pick.
I picked Lee over Casio, just because of potential longevity ..... both are decent ball-handlers & both are great shotmakers - be it individual scoring or via team play (Casio has always been clutch, while Lee has more upside).
However, I felt Casio was a bit brittle & has actually battled sporadic injuries dating back to his last few UAAP years .... even missing GILAS games & the first few POWERADE games.
Lee meanwhile has transformed his game along with his build - during his early years, he was your typical running PG ..... but when he bulked up, he paced his game & was just bullying his way to points.
Both are great PG's ..... just somehow feel like Lee will have the longer PBA career.
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2 series going a winner-take-all game 7. signs of a good finals series coming up.
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sinusulit nila ang series =)
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sinusulit nila ang series =)
tagal na walang quality games ang PBA so dpat kumita na sila ng husto sa mga series na eto. Labanan ng mga DEHADO at Labanan ng mga LYAMADO.
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and so far... wala pang nagaganap na bench clearing at free for all =) although there have been some hard fouls pero cooler heads prevail pa rin...
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Game 7 DO or DIE for both series tonite.
I feel its gona be ROS and TNT w/c will prevail and face each other at the PBA Finals for this conference.
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sana parehong classic games mamaya at walang tambakan... =)
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Game 7 DO or DIE for both series tonite.
I feel its gona be ROS and TNT w/c will prevail and face each other at the PBA Finals for this conference.
PETRON fAN here,pero tingin ko TNT yan ;D
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sana parehong classic games mamaya at walang tambakan... =)
tama! pagalingan ng execution down the stretch! at sana okay din mga referee mamaya!
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and hopefully no game fixing ng mga players or ng mga refs...
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and hopefully no game fixing ng mga players or ng mga refs...
yes no matter what the results bastat fair lng ang tawag and let the players determine the outcome of the ball games.
MAY THE BETTER TEAMS WIN.
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expect a highly emotional and extremely physical game seven...for both series. sa TnT vs. Petron, parehong may mga mainit na players, pati coach. sa RoS vs. Powerade, alam na natin kung sino ang mainit dyan. Coaches Chot and Yeng, di na ako magtataka kung ma-technical, or even thrown out, sila for their tempers.
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Wow its POWERADE!
My expectations were wrong. ROS just wasnt in the mood to intimidate their opponent. They didnt play that physical and simply just dont have the heart to win.
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Wow its POWERADE!
My expectations were wrong. ROS just wasnt in the mood to intimidate their opponent. They didnt play that physical and simply just dont have the heart to win.
its the year of gary david to shine, i hope he gets BPC and eventually MVP.
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its the year of gary david to shine, i hope he gets BPC and eventually MVP.
kso mabigat na kalaban si arwin Santos of Petron in terms of statistical points.
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Powerade vs TNT. :)
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Powerade vs TNT. :)
hahaha panalo tnt ko yahoo nanalo ako 1k
1point
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i'm going for powerade in the finals
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i'm going for powerade in the finals
lakas ni casio kahit out balance shoot ung tres
hmmmMMMmm - tnt pa din
pero malakas talaga powerade 8seed to go to the finals
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I'm rooting for the underdogs...
GO POWERADE!!! :D
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I'm rooting for the underdogs...
GO POWERADE!!! :D
almost everybody will cheer for the underdogs specially if they will give a good fight and challenge the Champion.
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what a painful semis loss for petron. up 3-1 and ended at 3-4. they could have wrapped it up in game 5. it's either TnT stepping up its game or petron became too complacent. or a combination of both. still,it was a very painful series.
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kso mabigat na kalaban si arwin Santos of Petron in terms of statistical points.
I think arwin doesnt deserve to get the mvp. Critical moment yun jumpball with ryan reyes tinalo pa siya sa tapikan. :( :(
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I think arwin doesnt deserve to get the mvp. Critical moment yun jumpball with ryan reyes tinalo pa siya sa tapikan. :( :(
Well, withith Petron out of the Finals and POWERADE in the Finals, i'm sure Gary David will finally get his recognition for Best Player of the Conference.
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hopefully he does. unless another TnT player steals it.
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Gary David should probably win BPC ..... with PETRON's elimination, no one else comes close now.
Jason Castro was a strong early BPC candidate, but has slowed down the latter part of this conference ..... Arwind is a stats-filler, but even teammate Cabagnot might get more votes due to his clutch leadership.
If ever there was an award for toughness, heart, warrior-attitude, etc ...... Ali Peek definitely.
The guy is 36-years old, with a bullet slug stuck in his neck .... and he still does his thing every night.
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Gary David should probably win BPC ..... with PETRON's elimination, no one else comes close now.
Jason Castro was a strong early BPC candidate, but has slowed down the latter part of this conference ..... Arwind is a stats-filler, but even teammate Cabagnot might get more votes due to his clutch leadership.
If ever there was an award for toughness, heart, warrior-attitude, etc ...... Ali Peek definitely.
The guy is 36-years old, with a bullet slug stuck in his neck .... and he still does his thing every night.
Ali peek was very instrumental for TNT winning the series against Petron.
Naibalik ng TNT un old traditional low post game and Peek was able to deliver the goods for them.
I hope more teams will eventually use the post up style more coz i really missed watching those post moves like those of Patrimonio, Terry Saldana, Ramon Fernandez, even Danny Ildefonso.
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Arwind is a stats-filler, but even teammate Cabagnot might get more votes due to his clutch leadership.
yun ang wala kay arwind, ung leadership AND composure. he has the tendency to choke during the end-game. i still recall his very costly blunder during game of their 2008 series against ginebra. dying moments of the game, he made a crucial steal but missed a point-blank lay up. the ball did not even touch the rim. it could have been a game winner for them.
cabagnot, on the other hand, is never afraid to take crucial, game-winning shots, whether it is on a lay-up or from long range.
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^^ Yup, many of our generation does appreciate the traditional post players.
Sadly though, traditional post players are a rare commodity nowadays.
Most local bigs now are equipped with agility, hops, etc ..... add the fact that since zone defenses were allowed - offensive sets now are mostly quick passing, movement, screens & cuts.
Currently, I enjoy watching Larry Rodriguez play - the man has a knack for scoring around the paint ..... I'm kinda reminded of Terry Saldana's game many years ago. Both are quiet operators as well.
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^^ Yup, many of our generation does appreciate the traditional post players.
Sadly though, traditional post players are a rare commodity nowadays.
Most local bigs now are equipped with agility, hops, etc ..... add the fact that since zone defenses were allowed - offensive sets now are mostly quick passing, movement, screens & cuts.
Currently, I enjoy watching Larry Rodriguez play - the man has a knack for scoring around the paint ..... I'm kinda reminded of Terry Saldana's game many years ago. Both are quiet operators as well.
the reinforced conference are of imports with unlimited height so i hope to see more post plays from them.
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^^ Yup, many of our generation does appreciate the traditional post players.
Sadly though, traditional post players are a rare commodity nowadays.
Most local bigs now are equipped with agility, hops, etc ..... add the fact that since zone defenses were allowed - offensive sets now are mostly quick passing, movement, screens & cuts.
Currently, I enjoy watching Larry Rodriguez play - the man has a knack for scoring around the paint ..... I'm kinda reminded of Terry Saldana's game many years ago. Both are quiet operators as well.
same thoughts on rodriguez, not flashy but gets the job done, very hard working and the intensity in his games did not change from the amateur to the pros now,
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PEEK Was able to get the two crucial rebounds to win the game
petron and tnt choke during the last ! minute of the ball game
another thing was the steal of mighty mouse to boy baldog...
Petron could win it either but they dont have a guy to take it to the basket
it could go to lutz or arwind to push it hard to the rim to somehow get fouls but they decided that LAKAY can take 3point shots which he missed twice
castro had a good ball game - hindi nga lang sa 4th q
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PEEK Was able to get the two crucial rebounds to win the game
petron and tnt choke during the last ! minute of the ball game
another thing was the steal of mighty mouse to boy baldog...
Petron could win it either but they dont have a guy to take it to the basket
it could go to lutz or arwind to push it hard to the rim to somehow get fouls but they decided that LAKAY can take 3point shots which he missed twice
castro had a good ball game - hindi nga lang sa 4th q
sad to say but Petron choked. their last play from a time-out was designed for Cabagnot to go strong to the hoop but he fumbled forcing him to pas the ball to Ildefonso who was willing to take the shot though he was already missing. Petron's previous plays were also individual plays trying to drive to the basket but without success forcing them to kick-out the ball, with the time winding down, to Ildefonso who had no recourse but to shoot.
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sad to say but Petron choked. their last play from a time-out was designed for Cabagnot to go strong to the hoop but he fumbled forcing him to pas the ball to Ildefonso who was willing to take the shot though he was already missing. Petron's previous plays were also individual plays trying to drive to the basket but without success forcing them to kick-out the ball, with the time winding down, to Ildefonso who had no recourse but to shoot.
The series was decided by one shot. Petron didnt execute well but it was a decent trey shot by Ildefonso, too bad it didnt went in.
PBA Finals Game 1 today.
TNT vs POWERADE
TNT should win the series without a doubt but pag pinaganda un series for more gates receipts, i feel it will go as far as Game 6 with TNT winning it all.
Game 1 via out of town game bka paunahin ng TNT ang Powerade just to spice up the series and create more excitement to the viewers as we all know un MASA tyak kakampi sa dehado.
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this should be an exciting series. a very hungry team versus a team presumably still suturing a botched grand slam wound. for TnT, this is a crucial series, if they want to have a shot at a grand slam again. if they lose this series, they can kiss their grand slam bid and wait till next season to have a crack at it again.
for powerade, they are undoubtedly hungry, especially gary david who's last finals appearance was in 2008. he is on a high right now. i just hope, for powerade's sake, that he has not yet peaked off. he will certainly be a marked man in this series.
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this should be an exciting series. a very hungry team versus a team presumably still suturing a botched grand slam wound. for TnT, this is a crucial series, if they want to have a shot at a grand slam again. if they lose this series, they can kiss their grand slam bid and wait till next season to have a crack at it again.
for powerade, they are undoubtedly hungry, especially gary david who's last finals appearance was in 2008. he is on a high right now. i just hope, for powerade's sake, that he has not yet peaked off. he will certainly be a marked man in this series.
Lots of TNT players will be thrown to guard David. Rich Alvarez, Dilinger, Gamalinda, and of course for sure Kelly Williams.
Sobrang lamang tlga sa talent at bench and TNT from guards to centers so the odds definitely dont favor POWERADE.
Many may side with POWERADE by heart but i doubt they will bet in their favor.
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^ Agreed, TnT is obvisouly heavily favored for this series ...... the personnel capable to pressure Gary David is just stacked - a healthy Ryan Reyes alone can probably guard him the whole series.
I'd say the 1st two Finals games will be an indicator of the kind of series it would be ...... champion veteran team versus the finals noobs ...... or champion heart versus fighting heart.
Aside from MVP and his mostly hakot crowd, I'd say everyone is rooting for the cinderella POWERADE team right now.
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^ Agreed, TnT is obvisouly heavily favored for this series ...... the personnel capable to pressure Gary David is just stacked - a healthy Ryan Reyes alone can probably guard him the whole series.
I'd say the 1st two Finals games will be an indicator of the kind of series it would be ...... champion veteran team versus the finals noobs ...... or champion heart versus fighting heart.
Aside from MVP and his mostly hakot crowd, I'd say everyone is rooting for the cinderella POWERADE team right now.
I got a feeling that the first 2 finals games will be splitted 1-1 then TNT goin 3-1 then Powerade will answer to get it at 3-2 and TNT will finish it 4-2 on the sixth game.
Batok na yan sa ulo ni Coach CHOT and TNT players if aabot pa ng Game 7 yan series.
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agree that TnT has a deeper bench compared to powerade. even the second unit of TnT is of a first five caliber. it is in this aspect that powerade is at a great disadvantage. they should always have a head start to afford their first stringers time to rest. they cannot sit their first stringers down if they are down, otherwise, they'll just bury themselves deeper.
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agree that TnT has a deeper bench compared to powerade. even the second unit of TnT is of a first five caliber. it is in this aspect that powerade is at a great disadvantage. they should always have a head start to afford their first stringers time to rest. they cannot sit their first stringers down if they are down, otherwise, they'll just bury themselves deeper.
sa guards lng Casio, Lassiter and Celino Cruz will burn out chasing Jason Castro and Jimmy Alapag.
sa off guards, small forward, too many shock troopers Dillinger, Reyes, Gamalinda, Alvarez, Fonacier from TNT to stop Gary David.
sa power forwards and centers, De Ocampo, Ali, Japet, Kelly, Carey too much talents and muscles to bang bodies with Kramer, Adducol, Crisiano and Anthony.
kung tao tao ang basis TNT shouldnt settle less than a SWEEP of the series but sympre sayang un gates kung hndi papopormahin ng konti un dehado as the masses with certainly cheer for them and its the masses thats paying the gates.
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its the masses thats paying the gates.
si finals na ito, hindi ba si MVP? ;D (or at least 70% of the seats)
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tnt for the sweep hehehe
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si finals na ito, hindi ba si MVP? ;D (or at least 70% of the seats)
Hehe, it's a know fact that MVP's officials "hakots" their employees during the semis and Finals series .... tickets (and yellow shirts) are given or raffled off a day before gametime.
Not that the "hakot" system is a bad thing ..... it's just making sure that the team is ably supported with cheers. Besides, a filled venue makes for a better game atmosphere.
The last Finals team I saw that didn't have great fan support was SANTA LUCIA ..... when they won that series against PUREFOODS - only a handful of people behind SLR's bench was celebrating.
Like I said, the 1st 2 games of this TnT-POWERADE series will likely show what kind of Finals we'll be getting ....... Veterans Vs. Noobs ....... or Veterans Vs. Heart.
Let's all hope we get heart.
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Hehe, it's a know fact that MVP's officials "hakots" their employees during the semis and Finals series .... tickets (and yellow shirts) are given or raffled off a day before gametime.
Not that the "hakot" system is a bad thing ..... it's just making sure that the team is ably supported with cheers. Besides, a filled venue makes for a better game atmosphere.
The last Finals team I saw that didn't have great fan support was SANTA LUCIA ..... when they won that series against PUREFOODS - only a handful of people behind SLR's bench was celebrating.
Like I said, the 1st 2 games of this TnT-POWERADE series will likely show what kind of Finals we'll be getting ....... Veterans Vs. Noobs ....... or Veterans Vs. Heart.
Let's all hope we get heart.
naku taob ang bangka pag mananalo ang dehado.
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pustahan sa office ibabawas daw ung points ni alapag or castro mamimili daw kami para labanan ung pusta sa tnt tsk tsk sk :-\
hope the bigger mans of TnT will dominate the series
JAPET - its time to show if you have A game... hindi maramdaman lage kahit sa FIBA Asia bangko tsk tsk tsk
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Hehe, it's a know fact that MVP's officials "hakots" their employees during the semis and Finals series .... tickets (and yellow shirts) are given or raffled off a day before gametime.
actually, all teams does this. during the finals of the 2007 all-pinoy conference, me and my college buddies wanted to watch a game. so, two days before playdate, we proceeded to the araneta ticket office. to our surprise, we were told that only the bleachers and the area immediately below that (i forgot what they call it) are available. we asked why, the reply was "binili na po ng management nung dalawang teams ung sa ringside, lower A and upper A". :o
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pustahan sa office ibabawas daw ung points ni alapag or castro mamimili daw kami para labanan ung pusta sa tnt tsk tsk sk :-\
hope the bigger mans of TnT will dominate the series
JAPET - its time to show if you have A game... hindi maramdaman lage kahit sa FIBA Asia bangko tsk tsk tsk
Thats a great plus factor if minus points of Alapag or Castro. Sa powerade na me pupusta pag ganun.
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despite the odds, i'm still going with powerade.
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despite the odds, i'm still going with powerade.
I'm sure most of us if not all of us will cheer for POWERADE.
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Lalamunin lng ng TNT ang Powerade..
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Lalamunin lng ng TNT ang Powerade..
too much fire power by TNT so thats really expected.
maganda lng panuorin khit tambak ksi high scoring ball game.
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jv casio is a BIG factor for powerade. i hope he can play starting next game...
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this series is really going to be boring.. yung 'no chance in hell' comment ni Magoo Marjon nung B-Meg-Powerade QF series is more suited sa Finals na 'to.. I'd actually be surprised if TnT doesn't sweep this..
no offense to Powerade, they're having a great run, but TnT just won a series after being down 1-3 against a team as strong and well-coached as Petron.. not to mention the fact that this core has been playing together for quite a while now and are coming off 2 championships and 3 Finals appearances last season..
I want Powerade to win because I hate TnT but there is just no way TnT is going to let this one go.. they missed the grand slam last season.. they have a chance again this season.. and they'll be the first team to defend a All-Filipino title since the 80s..
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this series is really going to be boring.. yung 'no chance in hell' comment ni Magoo Marjon nung B-Meg-Powerade QF series is more suited sa Finals na 'to.. I'd actually be surprised if TnT doesn't sweep this..
no offense to Powerade, they're having a great run, but TnT just won a series after being down 1-3 against a team as strong and well-coached as Petron.. not to mention the fact that this core has been playing together for quite a while now and are coming off 2 championships and 3 Finals appearances last season..
I want Powerade to win because I hate TnT but there is just no way TnT is going to let this one go.. they missed the grand slam last season.. they have a chance again this season.. and they'll be the first team to defend a All-Filipino title since the 80s..
they'll be the first team to defend an All-Filipino-American title since the 80s... ah eh may all-filipino players pa nga pala sila. ;D All-Filipino, All-Filipino, All-Filipino. pero si Ali Peek, I dont consider him Filipino, he refused to play in the national team before!
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I've been reading and hearing rumors that Kerby and Ababou are on their way to Ginebra.. Tubid and Canaleta going back to Barako (they played for the franchise when it was still Air21).. Intal will be moving to B-Meg..
Lakas ng Ginebra pag nagkataon. Balik tandem na kasi si Lito Alvarez at Bert Lina kaya simula na naman bentahan ng player. ;D
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yahoo panalo tnt ko hehehehe ;D
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Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina strikes gold again !!! ........ Latest player to be sold to SMC is bluechip rookie Dylan Ababou.
In other news: PBA Commisioner Chito Salud is still not convinced that Bert Lina is selling players.
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Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina strikes gold again !!! ........ Latest player to be sold to SMC is bluechip rookie Dylan Ababou.
In other news: PBA Commisioner Chito Salud is still not convinced that Bert Lina is selling players.
hindi ba OBVIOUS? or the Commisioner is just keeping an eye closed.
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hindi ba OBVIOUS? or the Commisioner is just keeping an eye closed.
Hehe. No ..... Danding Cojuangco is keeping it closed for him.
(http://i42.tinypic.com/avmnlx.jpg)
PETRON Corporation Board of Directors
OT: That's Estelito Mendoza in the middle .... the greatest, most moral effin' lawyer in the whole world
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I've been reading and hearing rumors that Kerby and Ababou are on their way to Ginebra.. Tubid and Canaleta going back to Barako (they played for the franchise when it was still Air21).. Intal will be moving to B-Meg..
heard this too. and from what i've read, pati yata si tenorio is on the trading block. but there are disclaimers (as always ;D ). BUT, there were also disclaimers before maliksi and maierhofer where shipped to ginebra. and the rumors are persistent. let's wait and see...
there were also some rumors a few weeks back that the two wilsons of ginebra will be traded for sol mercado. ???
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TnT vs POWERADE. 2-0. Hindi malayong masweep ng TnT ang Powerade.
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TnT vs POWERADE. 2-0. Hindi malayong masweep ng TnT ang Powerade.
Thats what expected as not to create doubts that binenta un laro.
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bilib din ako kay MVP every game ng TnT nandun sha to support his team.
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Paul Artadi to Meralco, Chico Lanete to Barako Bull
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Paul Artadi to Meralco, Chico Lanete to Barako Bull
I find it funny that Artadi always ends up going back to play for Ryan Gregorio.. he never got playing time with Gregorio at Purefoods nung rookie siya kaya he asked to be released.. he played for Ginebra and was instrumental in that championship run with Chris Alexander.. tapos balik uli siya sa Purefoods the season after and he won another crown.. reunited na naman siya with Gregorio but the problem now is that Artadi has not improved.. he's gotten worse actually..
si Lanete naman baliktad yung sitwasyon.. he gets the chance to play for RG and he always performs really well but he still gets traded every time..
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may ticket pa kaya bukas sa araneta im planing to watch e
wala na sa ticket net
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I find it funny that Artadi always ends up going back to play for Ryan Gregorio.. he never got playing time with Gregorio at Purefoods nung rookie siya kaya he asked to be released.. he played for Ginebra and was instrumental in that championship run with Chris Alexander.. tapos balik uli siya sa Purefoods the season after and he won another crown.. reunited na naman siya with Gregorio but the problem now is that Artadi has not improved.. he's gotten worse actually..
si Lanete naman baliktad yung sitwasyon.. he gets the chance to play for RG and he always performs really well but he still gets traded every time..
Exactly ..... Artadi has regressed year after year - one who plays to the crowds, hence has always been energetic for the SMC teams he's been with. His energy with BARAKO was few and far between though.
Seems like this is a Jong Uichico-initiated trade to me ..... the talkative Gregorio just adores individual scorers, so it's unlikely that he'll want to let go of Lanete.
Good trade for both teams .... not unless Bert Lina ships Lanete to SMC for a 2024 2nd round pick.
BARAKO BULL needs scoring - Lanete is more scorer than distributor ..... obviously a better scorer than Artadi.
MERALCO doesn't need much shotmakers as they already have Cardona, Mercado and resurgent forwards Isip & Espinas .... Artadi just might regain his energetic form with his old SMC coaches.
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sana makabawi ang tigers... =) 0-2 na eh... hope they don't go down 0-3...
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Man, you just can't help but cheer for this Powerade team.. they just keep making miracles happen.. 3.3 secs left, down by 3, TnT ball, bad inbound, nobody touches the ball, time doesn't move, Casio picks it up and nails a 3 to force overtime.. they are going to lose this game but this team has got one hell of a fighting spirit!
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TnT leads the series 3-0.
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a sweep is not far behind...but hats off to powerade. they just refuse to give up. kulang lang talaga sa manpower.
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my tnt wins again ;D
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moving forward, powerade has a solid core in casio, david, lassiter and anthony. they need to build up on the bench and a GOOD bigman... hopefully they can get something done via draft kasi if by trade eh they risk of breaking up their core, unless there is a team willing to dispose players and commish magically approves the trade...
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moving forward, powerade has a solid core in casio, david, lassiter and anthony. they need to build up on the bench and a GOOD bigman... hopefully they can get something done via draft kasi if by trade eh they risk of breaking up their core, unless there is a team willing to dispose players and commish magically approves the trade...
Yup, POWERADE needs a decent big to complement their solid core ..... should explore free agents closely - AFAIK they dont have a 1st round pick in the next draft.
A few bad personnel decisions the past years (not even including the SMC player raid when the franchise was sold to COKE Phil) have left them with holes in the middle.
POWERADE had a still serviceable Asi Taulava and were only able to get Rob Reyes via trade ..... the same Rob Reyes (currently playing great for PETRON) who they didn't sign to a new contract during the pre-season.
Also, former 3rd overall pick Chris Ross was traded after just a season with POWERADE ...... in return, they get an aged Paolo Mendoza, who has seemingly retired from the game.
POWERADE was even fortunate picking-up Kramer & Adducul, who were both released by their respective teams during the pre-season.
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Kerby Raymundo going to Ginebra....... with Red Bull acting as conduit..... ;D
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Kerby Raymundo going to Ginebra....... with Red Bull acting as conduit..... ;D
Minor correction sir ..... it's BARAKO BULL, not RED BULL.
RED BULL was the old PBA pimp ..... BARAKO BULL is the new PBA pimp. ;D
Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina - Money money money, it's a rich man's world.
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Dorian Pena is so mad about the trade right now.. They're losing Ababou for Tubid and Cervantes.. I hope Salud vetoes this trade.. or maybe amend it.. John Wilson na lang sana.. kahit straight one for one trade lang.. Tubid is on the decline and Cervantes doesn't really look promising.. Intal is going to B-Meg and that's good for them because he fits right in at the 3 spot.. they can still play quick ball w/o losing height.. just not sure how he will fit in the triangle..
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Minor correction sir ..... it's BARAKO BULL, not RED BULL.
RED BULL was the old PBA pimp ..... BARAKO BULL is the new PBA pimp. ;D
Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina - Money money money, it's a rich man's world.
Ooopss!! My bad sir, hehe! They do one thing in common kasi: BULL_ _ _ _! trades.... ;D
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TRADE PROPOSAL: INTAL to BARAKO for ABABOU. INTAL + BARAKO PICK to BMEG for KERBY. KERBY to GINEBRA for TUBID & CERVANTES.
Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina strikes gold once more ..... selling este trading away another great prospect to SMC.
Look closely on the trade proposal, note that aside from Dylan Ababou, they're also giving away a draft pick to SMC.
This has been Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina's MO for some time now ..... double-dip selling = maximum profits. ;D
Trade este sell players, then include draft picks as well ..... include draft picks as well (ex. very recently they traded away Canaleta + Pick for Willie Miller).
Danding's teams always wins .... they get the prime players plus the prime picks as well.
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i hope the other teams just withdraw if the league can not do anything on this.
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i hope the other teams just withdraw if the league can not do anything on this.
or at least implement the old rule that limits sister teams to just 2.
nagiging merry-go-round na lang kasi. even if my fave team benefits from it, i still hate what's going on.
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i hope the other teams just withdraw if the league can not do anything on this.
This is what ALASKA team owner Wilfred Uytengsu has been threatening to do for years now.
PBA Commissioner Chito Salud chooses to keep his eyes closed on the gross and blatant player buying spree by SMC & TnT ..... keeps his eyes closed on how SMC & TnT employs all of these prime players and still comply with salary cap rules.
Or just maybe, Danding Cojuangco keeps them closed for him.
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PETRON Corporation Board of Directors
OT: That's Estelito Mendoza in the middle .... the greatest, most moral effin' lawyer in the whole world
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Commish Salud approves the Raymundo, Ababou to BGK trade. ;D As expected.....
With Raymundo now with BGK, Rico M. goes back to being Kerby's shadow.... :D
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Commish Salud approves the Raymundo, Ababou to BGK trade. ;D As expected.....
With Raymundo now with BGK, Rico M. goes back to being Kerby's shadow.... :D
aay! sa wakas naubos na rin yong mga BANO sa BGK ;D ;D ;D
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BGK also hired Alfrancis Chua as consultant.. Alvin Teng is also going to be an assistant at one of the SMC teams.. daming movements sa SMC ngayon..
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MANILA, Philippines – The PBA trade involving Kerby Raymundo, JC Intal, Dylan Ababou, Ronald Tubid and Reil Cervantes was officially approved today “without revisions”.
PBA Commissioner Chito Salud informed us early this morning of his decision of the said trade.
“The 3-way trade among Barangay Ginebra Kings, Barako Bull and B-Meg is approved without revision in accordance with the policies of the office of the commissioner and the rules of the league” says Atty. Salud.
The trade is as, follows: “Ginebra’s Intal for Barako’s Ababou; Intal and Barako’s 2012 2nd rnd pick (acquired from Shopinas.com) for B-Meg’s Kerby Raymundo; Raymundo for Ginebra’s Tubid, Cervantes and Ginebra’s 2014 2nd round pick.” Atty. Salud relayed this news via text message to MB Online at around 9:00 a.m. (Brian Yalung)
http://www.tempo.com.ph/2012/pba-trade-approved-without-revisions/#.TyJXq1z9OKc (http://www.tempo.com.ph/2012/pba-trade-approved-without-revisions/#.TyJXq1z9OKc)
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BGK also hired Alfrancis Chua as consultant.. Alvin Teng is also going to be an assistant at one of the SMC teams.. daming movements sa SMC ngayon..
Alvin serving as one of the assistant coaches at SMC could be the package that includes his son Jeron playing for DLSU.
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Tnt leads the series 3-1. Powerade win. 100-97. Sayang un huling tira ni alapag.
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it looks like a tnt win is not far behind. Still, hats off to powerade, especially to gary david. they just won't give up.
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it looks like a tnt win is not far behind. Still, hats off to powerade, especially to gary david. they just won't give up.
hihihihi
:D
anu kaya result today ng game...
asa ofice kasi me..
GAME 5 ba ngayon?
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TNT won, 110-101.. Larry Fonacier is Finals MVP.. if this was a close series, Gary David would have won Finals MVP even if his team lost..
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TNT won, 110-101.. Larry Fonacier is Finals MVP.. if this was a close series, Gary David would have won Finals MVP even if his team lost..
Nice TNT wins as expected....
hindi po pwede manalo ng FINALS MVP if your team did not win the championship po
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Nice TNT wins as expected....
hindi po pwede manalo ng FINALS MVP if your team did not win the championship po
Jerry West did that in the NBA.. I think it's possible kasi it's the media/reporters who vote on it.. wala naman yatang set na rule diyan.. and it was actually the media votes that gave Gary the BPC so it's not farfetched..
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Jerry West did that in the NBA.. I think it's possible kasi it's the media/reporters who vote on it.. wala naman yatang set na rule diyan..
Story on mine – hindi gawa gawa hehe
I Myself won a FINALS MVP without us winning the FINALS when I was in 3rd year HighSchool which I was shock before when I played basketball in our province. Sabi ko sa sarili ko akala ko mythical five lang meron pa pala nito siguro dahil probinsya to mga taga maynila medyo sikat hahaha
1985 ako pinanganak 3rd year ko that was 200 or 2001
Kakahiya ipost ung tropy putol na agila sa taas haha
When watching NBA and PBA in my college days I’ve learn and saw all FINALS MVP was selected to the winning teams
Ngayon ko lang nalaman ung kay WEST
Sya lang ung una nakagawa nun siguro dahil dominated nya ung game
Pero sa lahat ngayon ng pinapanood ko
UAAP – NCAA – PBA – NBA
All finals mvp came with the winning team
Last na siguro ung kay west which was the very first time it happened
Sa PBA I can’t recall that It happened
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Jerry West did that in the NBA.. I think it's possible kasi it's the media/reporters who vote on it.. wala naman yatang set na rule diyan.. and it was actually the media votes that gave Gary the BPC so it's not farfetched..
agree. naging mentality na lang kasi na the finals mvp SHOULD come from the winning team. parang sa best actor lang yan, dapat lagi ung lead star ang mananalo...except for Rod Navarro. ;D
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Coca-Cola franchise folding up?
http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=69&articleid=773251&keyword=sp_pba
sana huwag mangyari... sayang eh... chance rin nila to win new fans...
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^ Sad day for true PBA fans, if COKE does sell their PBA franchise.
However, JB Baylon is obviously the teams biggest believer and has always publicly defended the PBA franchise with corporate ..... POWERADE getting into the recent Finals will surely help his case.
Just yesterday, Baylon signed-up Gary David to a 3-year max salary contract extension.
Let's hope that COKE top management goes with Baylon and keeps the PBA franchise.
OT: Have seen many great COKE commercials the past few years ..... hope the 'guys' spare some of that creativity for POWERADE - I dont think they're getting any market share from giant GATORADE.
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+1 JB Baylon's continued support and the way that Powerade is no longer a pushover means alot. Hope they stay in the PBA. =)
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if the sale of the franchise is inevitable, i just hope that whoever buys it is not aligned with SMC, MVP and/or Bert Lina.
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oo nga. and they keep the team intact. minsan kasi ginagawa ng mga teams na nagpapa benta eh trade ang mga players na big contracts para maging mas mura ng kaunti ang cost para sa bibili ng team... para should they decide to buy the team eh competitive agad from day 1 =)
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if the sale of the franchise is inevitable, i just hope that whoever buys it is not aligned with SMC, MVP and/or Bert Lina.
baka yan ang mangyari tapos ibibigay na naman sa SMC yung magagaling tsk tsk tsk tigilan na ang PBA.
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anu balita sa trade nila kerby - intal - etc?
natuloy ba?
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anu balita sa trade nila kerby - intal - etc?
natuloy ba?
matagal na pong approved.. back read lang po kayo, may link dun sa earlier posts..
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matagal na pong approved.. back read lang po kayo, may link dun sa earlier posts..
my bad i thought it was just humors before
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baka yan ang mangyari tapos ibibigay na naman sa SMC yung magagaling tsk tsk tsk tigilan na ang PBA.
oo nga eh. kahit na nagbe-benefit ung team na gusto ko, frankly, di din ako pabor sa ganung kalakaran. parang niloloko na lang nila nag tao.
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oo nga eh. kahit na nagbe-benefit ung team na gusto ko, frankly, di din ako pabor sa ganung kalakaran. parang niloloko na lang nila nag tao.
Kudos to you, or anyone who is a fan of the sport first, rather than a team fan.
That is the sad part about all of the lopsided trades, player movements, etc being blatantly done by SMC ... and to an extent, TnT.
The minority - us true fans of the sport are taken for a ride .... harap-harapang niloloko.
The majority - casual fans, fantards, groupies, etc ..... they are being taught that it's okay to manipulate just to win.
UPDATE: Some sad news. Apparently, the POWERADE franchise will be reverting soon to SMC ownership ...... SMC with first dibs whether they'll retain the team and become it's 4th franchise .... or they'll sell to another group.
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Kudos to you, or anyone who is a fan of the sport first, rather than a team fan.
thanks for that, sir.
UPDATE: Some sad news. Apparently, the POWERADE franchise will be reverting soon to SMC ownership ...... SMC with first dibs whether they'll retain the team and become it's 4th franchise .... or they'll sell to another group.
i hope they just sell it to another group. 4 out of 10 teams? that's a very big BS! i remember the tanduay franchise leaving the pba because it perceived the league to be an SMC league. i think even tim cone was very vocal about it. but he can't be vocal now because he is part of that group already. :P
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hya lalo ng nawalan ng saysay nag PBA, why would the league allos this, ih ope one owner make a very strong staement to correc this
i understand this is a commercial league and is business but the league should run this very professionally wiht the ultimate goal of making basketball loving fans enjoy the sport and emulate the players they idolize, they can still eran their profit but let the fans be partners as well.
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I think if I understand the report correctly, it is the whole coca cola operations here in the philippines that was purchased back by the SMC group, just like what they did before it was purchased back by Atlanta. If that is the case then the PBA has no choice but to give this to the SMC group since they would own the mother company...
Unless the board says to SMC you can only have a maximum of 3 teams in the PBA and you have to sell this to another entity not affiliated with SMC... the problem is who would be interested in making the purchase since as far as I read they purchased the PBA franchise at 2x the cost at which they sold it before and of course di yan papayag na hindi kikita just in case mapilitan sila ng board na ibenta yung franchise...
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I think if I understand the report correctly, it is the whole coca cola operations here in the philippines that was purchased back by the SMC group, just like what they did before it was purchased back by Atlanta. If that is the case then the PBA has no choice but to give this to the SMC group since they would own the mother company...
Unless the board says to SMC you can only have a maximum of 3 teams in the PBA and you have to sell this to another entity not affiliated with SMC... the problem is who would be interested in making the purchase since as far as I read they purchased the PBA franchise at 2x the cost at which they sold it before and of course di yan papayag na hindi kikita just in case mapilitan sila ng board na ibenta yung franchise...
Dunno about the details about the sale back to SMC ....... seems like top local management (JB Baylon etal) were kept out of the dark also.
The only way that the sport wins ..... SMC should just sell PBA franchise to corporations with strong PBA interest e.g. CEBUANA LHULLIER or PHOENIX ..... the latter might be unlikely though, since it's a direct PETRON competitor ..... and everyone knows how Danding feels about competition.
If SMC decides to keep POWERADE as their 4th PBA franchise ...... sad day for all true fans of the sport.
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Dunno about the details about the sale back to SMC ....... seems like top local management (JB Baylon etal) were kept out of the dark also.
The only way that the sport wins ..... SMC should just sell PBA franchise to corporations with strong PBA interest e.g. CEBUANA LHULLIER or PHOENIX ..... the latter might be unlikely though, since it's a direct PETRON competitor ..... and everyone knows how Danding feels about competition.
If SMC decides to keep POWERADE as their 4th PBA franchise ...... sad day for all true fans of the sport.
phoenix has long been knocking on the door but the powers that be keep blocking them isnt it? it would have been nice seeing a new team independent of SMC or MVP teams. I would also love to see cebuana, they have always been a very strong team in leagues other than the pba.
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phoenix has long been knocking on the door but the powers that be keep blocking them isnt it? it would have been nice seeing a new team independent of SMC or MVP teams. I would also love to see cebuana, they have always been a very strong team in leagues other than the pba.
Yup, PHOENIX had a "very strong" franchise application a year ago ...... unfortunately, it was blocked by the SMC bloc (no pun intended) and it's pimp brother AIR21 .... courtesy of Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina of course.
** PHOENIX did its homework early, establishing good relations with the PBA by sponsoring it's provincial road games for an entire season.
** Seven (7) votes by the PBA Board was all PHOENIX needed to get a PBA franchise (purchasing then George Chua's BARAKO BULL team) .... as expected, all 6 non-SMC teams were in favor .... while, SMC teams with Lina's AIR21 team voted against.
Thus, the PBA board turned down PHOENIX's franchise application with a final tally of 6-4.
** Looking closely, there is some history behind this SMC voting bloc. Previously, the SMC group was only alloted 2 votes - one for SMB and one for GINEBRA ..... PUREFOODS had no voting rights.
This was done, specifically to prevent any majority bloc voting for important matters such as franchise applications, awards votes, rule changes, etc.
However, when Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina's prodigy, Lito Alavarez became PBA chairman ..... he initiated rules, giving PUREFOODS voting rights in the PBA board.
Thus, PUREFOODS got its voting rights .... together with SMB, GINEBRA & AIR21 votes ..... equals majority control of the PBA board.
Just to be sure, Commisioner Chito Salud will always be there to lend a helping hand to his SMC comrades.
OT: Lito Alvarez was the same buffoon appointed by PNOY to head the Burea Of Customs ...... only to be fired one year later, due to gross negligence and suspicious activities.
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I myself favor a team such as CEBUANA LHULLIER entering the PBA.
Having a known provincial team in the PBA, would spur basketball passions in the south - much like the MAMA's LOVE team from many years ago.
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http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=69&articleid=773890&keyword=sp_pba
Tigers stay for the rest of season
hopefully at the end of the day they win the votes of those in the board of Coke that the PBA is a good marketing venue for powerade and coca cola as a whole.
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looks like Powerade is gone.. rumors are going around that they just traded Marcio Lassiter to Petron.. Doug Kramer, Josh Vanlandingham and Gary David are pissed based on their latest tweets.. the sale of the team to SMC may be blocked by the board but the players are a different matter.. I'm a Petron fan but I'm done.. NBA na lang ako.. Go Lakers! ;D
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looks like Powerade is gone.. rumors are going around that they just traded Marcio Lassiter to Petron.. Doug Kramer, Josh Vanlandingham and Gary David are pissed based on their latest tweets.. the sale of the team to SMC may be blocked by the board but the players are a different matter.. I'm a Petron fan but I'm done.. NBA na lang ako.. Go Lakers! ;D
awww thats bull$$hit after climbing to finals being 8 seed
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looks like Powerade is gone.. rumors are going around that they just traded Marcio Lassiter to Petron.. Doug Kramer, Josh Vanlandingham and Gary David are pissed based on their latest tweets.. the sale of the team to SMC may be blocked by the board but the players are a different matter.. I'm a Petron fan but I'm done.. NBA na lang ako.. Go Lakers! ;D
Looks like Lassiter was indeed "dealt" to PETRON.... complete and blatant BS.
It's likely that PETRON Director este PBA Comm Chito Salud will approve this one.... Just like the many BS trades that SMC had done through the years.
May you live forever Danding.
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well, it seems that the manipulation, ooppsss...trade, is not yet over. what could be next for the SMC franchise....who'll be the next player to jump to the SMC wagon? let's see....
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nag step down na ba as independent director of SMC si comm. salud?
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well, it seems that the manipulation, ooppsss...trade, is not yet over. what could be next for the SMC franchise....who'll be the next player to jump to the SMC wagon? let's see....
ayaw talaga magpatalo sa TNT :)
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are naturalized pinoys still considered as foreigners and, thus, are considered as imports? i asked this because marcus douthit is the import of air21 this coming conference.
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are naturalized pinoys still considered as foreigners and, thus, are considered as imports? i asked this because marcus douthit is the import of air21 this coming conference.
Apparently so ..... under PBA eligibility rules, naturalized Filipinos are not allowed to play as locals.
They can play as imports though ..... similar to Alex Compton's situation years ago.
Good for Bert Lina's AIR21 team in getting a known commodity in Douthit ..... however, if rules do allow it - I'm very sure that Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina will immediately sell este trade Douthit's rights to an SMC or MVP team for a future draft pick.
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a player needs to have Filipino blood to play in the PBA.. and, no, blood transfusion doesn't count.. ;D
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read in today's newspaper, Powerade - Petron trade of Lassiter for Baclao and Guevarra has been formally received by the PBA Office. it will be reviewed pa raw since Comm. Salud is out of the country pa.
an emergency board meeting is scheduled for Friday as well, that was requested by Rain or Shine to inform them and to deliberate on the plans of Powerade.
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a player needs to have Filipino blood to play in the PBA.. and, no, blood transfusion doesn't count.. ;D
BIG CHECK!
pera na din ang labanan ngayon!
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http://sports.inquirer.net/33963/vargas-questions-lassiter-trade
Look who's talking now.... ;D remember r.reyes and williams to TNT from sta. lucia just before MVP bought the franchise now meralco's?
Ang magnanakaw galit sa kapwa magnanakaw :D
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Indeed, much like Chavit was to Erap ..... galit ang magnanakaw sa kapwa magnanakaw.
** Both the SMC & MVP groups, together with their Bert Lina farm teams are systematically destroying the PBA ..... all in the name of winning.
Ricky Vargas looking like the MVP lapdog with his comments ..... similar scenario when TnT "got" Williams & Reyes juse before the SLR franchise was officially purchased by MVP.
In fairness, the MVP boys did commit both Williams & Reyes to GILAS as "justification" for the trade (also confirmed then by SLR's Buddy Encarnado) ..... Williams went on with his GILAS stints, while Reyes was never picked by Toroman owing to his solid guard lineup.
** Have to feel for JB Baylon ..... it's very obvious that the Lassiter sale este trade was conceived way above his pay grade ..... actually, way above most local COKE executive heads.
Let's see how Commisioner Cheato Salud handles this Lassiter sale este trade.
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if it is lassiter in exchange for guevarra and baclao.i think it is a fair deal.those 2 players are former no 1 and 3 draft pick i believe
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if it is lassiter in exchange for guevarra and baclao.i think it is a fair deal.those 2 players are former no 1 and 3 draft pick i believe
It's potentially more of an unfair deal for Petron. Baclao and Guevarra can definitely still improve given the playing time. They showed flashes of brilliance during the last 2 conferences given their limited playing time. But playing time is what Petron cannot give them. Petron wants players who can immediately provide the scoring and hustle in defense which Lassiter can give. Baclao always provides good defense but his offense has not yet been developed. Guevarra provides offense but his defense is still suspect.
Some bad trades made by San Miguel/Petron are those which got them Cablay who was a "Sablay" in a San Miguel uniform. It seems Cablay only plays well for Alaska. Also the trade that gave away LA Tenorio and Larry Fonacier. San Miguel couldn't wait for these two players to mature but now they are main cogs in their respective teams. Also Espinas who now plays solidly for Meralco.
It seems TnT has more sense when making trades. They trade away players only after the player has shown that he could not work within TnT's system.
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sana lang powerade is not sold to smc... yan ikinagagalit ng alaska management, kasi parang its them vs the world (mvp and smc).
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i have long been a fan of Alaska specifically jolas, this team got me hooked with the pba, during those days, ang ganda ganda ng takbo, i specially liked the year when purefoods was just a rookie team becasue again of jolas.
in the past two years or so, nakakawalang gana na kase nga dahil sa SMC teams, yun palang nag papalit palit ng coach ang smc nakakasuya na, mas lalong nakakasuya yung mga trades na nangyayari.
kung naging maayos sana ang distribution ng players mas masarap manood, imagine yung ibang team nagiging whipping boys na lang ,mas maganda ang kompitisyon kung lahat ng teams get a share of the pie equally
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if it is lassiter in exchange for guevarra and baclao.i think it is a fair deal.those 2 players are former no 1 and 3 draft pick i believe
Not a good and fair trade IMO.
** Draft ranking is not an accurate gauge on trade parity - much less individual performance.
** Lassiter has been a great prospect as far back when he first played for GILAS .... he has been among the stats leader, even at his rookie conference. He's just tough both on offense & defense.
Baclao is like majority of the bigs that goes through the PBA every draft ..... tall, slow and offensively limited. He does have decent post defense, but so does Rommel Adducul right now.
Guevarra has good upside ..... but I'm kinda reminded a bit by a former NCAA star from years back - Reuben Dela Rosa. Both drafted 3rd overall and had great hops (Dela Rosa's athleticism was off the charts).
However, both had "gigil" with their games .... nauuna ang kilos palagi, moreso for Dela Rosa.
Coach Ato Agustin likes his players tough ..... tells you something, when this past conference, Guevarra played behind Lutz, Yeo, Tugade and rookie Marc Agustin ..... last season, he even played behind Duncil.
** The health of the PBA.
POWERADE was runner-up in the recent AFC, mainly through the efforts of David, Casio & Lassiter.
For a perennial tailender to suddenly become Finals runner-up upholds the very essence of a draft - which is, losing teams get to rebuild with the better draft opportunities.
Many years ago, Bogs Adornado was to be traded to San Miguel .... then PBA commisioner voided this proposed trade, since it will greatly affect league parity.
POWERADE is a great story for the PBA - now & the near future ..... let's keep it this way.
** Professional ethics
Baclao & Guevarra were part of the trade last season wherein the two, with Al-Hussaini, were traded by Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina's AIR21 to PETRON for an aged Seigle, Pena, Artadi & Hontiveros.
The centerpiece of course was Hontiveros, since he was still a starting SG at the time ..... lo and behold, Hontiveros was back with PETRON after just a single conference.
It's exteremely obvious that SMC is (and had been) pirating and double-dipping for the longest time now .... getting the best players via sister teams & 3rd party lackeys.
Where does it stop?
Will it take a 1-2-3 finish by SMC teams for Noli Eala & Robert Non to stop with the player pirating?
Will it take 1 or 2 teams to bolt the PBA for Comm. Chito Salud to open his eyes about the player pirating and selling?
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Powerade - Petron trade of Lassiter for Baclao and Guevarra has been formally received by the PBA Office. it will be reviewed
formality na lang yan. wala pang "trade" na nadis-approve involving SMC.
kung naging maayos sana ang distribution ng players mas masarap manood, imagine yung ibang team nagiging whipping boys na lang ,mas maganda ang kompitisyon kung lahat ng teams get a share of the pie equally
agree with you kabayang tirso. di katulad dati, ang hirap magsabi kung sino ang malakas dahil halos lahat, pantay-pantay.
i think it would be better if the PBA revert to its old system of having just two sister teams in the league. to add, i think it would stop the BS if the PBA would implement a policy limiting the trades involving similar company/team owners to just one trade transaction per season.
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kelan ba umpisa ng 2nd conference?diba may mga import na?
sa tingin ko lalo ng gumagaya ang PBA sa NBA.
(NBA D-League nagkaroon na din ng PBA D-League)
yung mga ibang team bumubuo ndn ng BIG 3 sa knilang team, kaya ngiging kwawa ang mga ibang team na wla msyadong pera pra kmuha ng malalaking players.
tignan mo mga ilang years pa magkakaron ndn sa PBA ng LOCK-OUT!hahahaha...
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tomorrow na ang start ng 2nd conference.
1st Game Barako Bull vs Alaska
2nd Game Bmeg vs Meralco
looking forward to how the imports perform and likewise an update tomorrow on the board meeting re: powerade's future.
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^ Nice that the PBA resumes quite early.
By the way, many years ago, the PBA had an effective trading system ..... the Restricted Trade List.
All of the teams were mandated to select 2 of its marquee players, to be placed under RTL protection ..... RTL players can ONLY be traded for another RTL player.
The RTL helped in preventing lopsided trades, since trading value will surely guarantee value in return.
Ironically, the RTL was instituted during Noli Eala's term as PBA Commissioner ..... Noli Eala, is currently SMC Head of basketball operations - the very same person who is masterminding SMC's player pirating ways in the PBA ..... goes to show, how money can bend the principles of some people.
Unfortunate that the RTL system was all but destroyed by .... no surpise .... SMC.
SAN MIGUEL connived with then RED BULL, by sneakily removing MVP runner-up Enrico Villanueva from the RTL .... then buying este trading for him ..... in exchange for the godlike Don Camaso (via Rommel Adducul).
Don Camaso was eventually waived by RED BULL after playing for a few months.
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mga sir meron ba kayong sets ng mga imports na lalaro ngayon?
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mga sir meron ba kayong sets ng mga imports na lalaro ngayon?
Air21 - Marcus Douthit
Alaska - Adam Parada (returning)
B-Meg - Denzel Bowles
Barako - DerMarr Johnson
Ginebra - Chris Alexander (returning)
Meralco - Jelani McCoy (injured and might be replaced by Jarrid Famous)
Petron - Nick Fazekas
Powerade - Dwayne Jones
Rain or Shine - Duke Crews
TNT - Omar Samhan
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if this is a real document then Powerade should inform the board na talaga..
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/powerade-franchise-offered-for-sale-to-smc-last-november
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^ And just like that, the Lassiter trade has been put on hold ..... immediately, after a sensitive document was revealed to the public.
“I don’t want to impute bad faith or anything about the trade, pero hindi naman ako tanga,” said Salud.
Would Salud give out the same strong words if the document was not revealed?
Methinks not. ;D
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Air21 - Marcus Douthit
Alaska - Adam Parada (returning)
B-Meg - Denzel Bowles
Barako - DerMarr Johnson
Ginebra - Chris Alexander (returning)
Meralco - Jelani McCoy (injured and might be replaced by Jarrid Famous)
Petron - Nick Fazekas
Powerade - Dwayne Jones
Rain or Shine - Duke Crews
TNT - Omar Samhan
dba NBA Player yan si DerMarr Johnson?
ung Fazekas din ba?parang may nakita akong ganyang apilido sa NBA..
ung sa Meralco daw 6'11, kasi yung mga barkada ko nagpunta sila sa Nike Titan, nkita nila si C.Ross may ksamang import napaka-laki daw pero ndi nila kilala ung kasama.
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^ Yup, D. Johnson was a decent NBA forward years ago.
Let's all hope he puts on a show this conference.
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Those trades are unhealthy to the PBA as premium players are being sent to RICH teams like SMC and TNT pan naman un ibang teams?
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dapat SMC vs MVP na lang ang PBA tutal silang dalawa lang naman ang naglalaban talaga e..
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^ And just like that, the Lassiter trade has been put on hold ..... immediately, after a sensitive document was revealed to the public.
“I don’t want to impute bad faith or anything about the trade, pero hindi naman ako tanga,” said Salud.
Would Salud give out the same strong words if the document was not revealed?
Methinks not. ;D
me too. :D pa-cute na lang nya yan to make it appear na hindi nya kinukunsinte ang mga ganitong trades at palabasin na hindi nya alam na may ganung dokumento. Mr. Salud --- hindi din kami tanga!
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me too. :D pa-cute na lang nya yan to make it appear na hindi nya kinukunsinte ang mga ganitong trades at palabasin na hindi nya alam na may ganung dokumento. Mr. Salud --- hindi din kami tanga!
+ 1 ;D
I'd bet P100 that Comm. Salud's statement was a direct (albeit delayed) jab to ALASKA owner Fred Uytengsu's own press release months ago.
This was when Joe "Green Pastures" Devance initiated a trade from ALASKA - even though he was already receiving the maximum contract (P350k) and wasn't lacking for playing time or anything.
Mr. Fred Uytengsu to Comm. Chito Salud:
“Our P350,000 is as good as the next team’s P350,000. So I ask the Commissioner (Chito Salud) ‘what’s going on? He says ‘I don’t have evidence’. Well, I say, dig for it, that’s your job. We’re not idiots.”
Good that the games are here again ...... best answer to temporarily forget about all the sh*t happening in the sidelines.
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getting blown out by 20pts isn't the start you want if you're Alaska.. it's not a good time, as well, to completely abandon the triangle when you've got a 7-foot import and Sonny Thoss to man the post.. a run and gun type with Parada, Thoss and Reyes doesn't really look like a good idea..
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getting blown out by 20pts isn't the start you want if you're Alaska.. it's not a good time, as well, to completely abandon the triangle when you've got a 7-foot import and Sonny Thoss to man the post.. a run and gun type with Parada, Thoss and Reyes doesn't really look like a good idea..
kung ako sa alaska mag disband na lang ako tapos ibenta ko ang team ko sa SMC, ganun din naman eh paano ka mananalo sa PBA ng kampyonato eh apat na team na kalaban mo iisa may ari pag sablay magpalitan ng coach or mag trade ng player
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kung ako sa alaska mag disband na lang ako tapos ibenta ko ang team ko sa SMC, ganun din naman eh paano ka mananalo sa PBA ng kampyonato eh apat na team na kalaban mo iisa may ari pag sablay magpalitan ng coach or mag trade ng player
i'd rather keep the team and just sell my players just like Lina's farm team.
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paano ka mananalo sa PBA ng kampyonato eh apat na team na kalaban mo iisa may ari pag sablay magpalitan ng coach or mag trade ng player
TnT has proven that it is possible...twice last season and once this season.
Good that the games are here again ...... best answer to temporarily forget about all the sh*t happening in the sidelines.
agree. at least we have something else to talk about now. but i'm sure we will still have a lot of sh*t to talk about regarding this conference. ;D
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TnT has proven that it is possible...twice last season and once this season.
That's because TnT owns the PBA.. ;D
seriously, though, parang si MVP na nagbabayad sa mga empleyado ng PBA.. PLDT has naming rights to Araneta where most of the games are played.. they are paying for the renovation of Araneta so they have a stake at the gate receipts.. they're even buying tickets to give to their employees.. the broadcast rights belong to AKTV, the sports arm of TV5 owned by MVP.. he's the one paying the producers, the commentators, camera men, etc. and if you watched the broadcast nung 1st conference, wala masyadong ads na tumatakbo sa mga broadcasts.. one source of income of the PBA is the ad spots sold during broadcast.. but since you don't see ads during broadcast, how are they earning through it? nagka-ads during the playoffs na.. tapos halos lahat pa ng ads na pinalabas are from companies owned by MVP.. so basically, MVP is buying ad spots during games aired by his own broadcast team..
this is just something I noticed.. parang yung mga pumapasok na pera sa PBA ay galing kay MVP and his companies..
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a player needs to have Filipino blood to play in the PBA.. and, no, blood transfusion doesn't count.. ;D
i hope KIRK LONG can be an exemption becoz although he doesnt have filipino lineage, he was raised here and studied from elementary all throughout college. His residency here in the Philippines should grant him the special priviledge to play in the PBA.
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they make a lot of questionable trades but SMC teams have the most exciting, thrilling and down the wire games in the PBA these past few years.. they compete like hell with each other.. first game pa lang nila and ganun na agad.. Petron down 22 in the first half vs Ginebra.. they come back in the 3rd.. down by 3 with 20 seconds to go, Petron import Fazekas hits a three to tie.. 3.9 secs left, Helterbrand shoots over Fazekas for a buzzer-beater.. it can't get any better than that..
oh, and Hatfield on his first game back, ejected agad.. ;D
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^ Great game indeed ..... Fazekas is good as advertised - actually all imports who have played thus far have showed their stuff ..... let's see if TnT gets a great import as well.
No disputing the fact that the SMC teams & TnT has been in most exciting games ...... loaded teams tend to do just that.
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ganda ng laban witiwiw hehehe
hehe hatfield ejected flagrant 1 and 1 technical
good game by both team
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^ yung laban ba kanina all star game yun oh regular game lang? kase puro star yung nag lalaro tapos pag upo star pa din yung papalit eh tapos pag ibang team na ang nag laban para namang PBL lang hehehehehe
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^ yung laban ba kanina all star game yun oh regular game lang? kase puro star yung nag lalaro tapos pag upo star pa din yung papalit eh tapos pag ibang team na ang nag laban para namang PBL lang hehehehehe
haha smc
uaap ganda pa hihihi
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i hope KIRK LONG can be an exemption becoz although he doesnt have filipino lineage, he was raised here and studied from elementary all throughout college. His residency here in the Philippines should grant him the special priviledge to play in the PBA.
ganyan din ata case ni alex compton pero naglaro lang siya sa pba as an import
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simula nung hnawakan na ni MVP ang TNT, ndi na yan mawawala sa finals.
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it was one hell of a game last night. it was boring in the first half as petron was down by 22. ginebra even trailed in the last few minutes. 3.9 seconds, score tied and jj hit that buzzer beater!
chris alexander was excellent in the first half but seems to have lost steam int he second. fazekas, on the other hand, was lackluster in the first half but caught fire in the second half.
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it was one hell of a game last night. it was boring in the first half as petron was down by 22. ginebra even trailed in the last few minutes. 3.9 seconds, score tied and jj hit that buzzer beater!
chris alexander was excellent in the first half but seems to have lost steam int he second. fazekas, on the other hand, was lackluster in the first half but caught fire in the second half.
naging best import ba dati si chris alexander?
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naging best import ba dati si chris alexander?
Yup!
Nung nagchampion sila last 2008.
Si Jayjay ang BPC
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/rityard0428/SKg2Ff9ww-I/AAAAAAAABJA/yGooW278GZU/Jayjay-Helterbrand-Chris-Alexander.jpg)
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kaya mas gusto ko pag si jayjay ang last shot kesa kay mark the spark.
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oh, and Hatfield on his first game back, ejected agad.. ;D
yeah! and i just love the Triple H move that he made just before he left the court. ;D
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simula nung hnawakan na ni MVP ang TNT, ndi na yan mawawala sa finals.
it just shows how commited he is to winning. ;)
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ganyan din ata case ni alex compton pero naglaro lang siya sa pba as an import
Many Fil-Chi played in the PBA like Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Benny Cheng, etc.
They dont have Filipino blood but they were all born, raised here, and took their education from elementary to college in the Philippines.
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Many Fil-Chi played in the PBA like Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Benny Cheng, etc.
They dont have Filipino blood but they were all born, raised here, and took their education from elementary to college in the Philippines.
pag naturalized filipino ata pwede maglaro
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Philippine Passport Holder din dapat ang player to be eligible to play sa PBA
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yeah! and i just love the Triple H move that he made just before he left the court. ;D
oo nga brader, pati ako napa BOOOOM !!! no more Mr. Nice Guy for the H-Bomb!!! ;D
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yeah! and i just love the Triple H move that he made just before he left the court. ;D
me youtube video kaya nito? di ko nakita sa tv
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signature move ni H.Bomb yun..
baka meron na yun sa youtube, search mo na lang dre.
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Many Fil-Chi played in the PBA like Atoy Co, Lim Eng Beng, Benny Cheng, etc.
They dont have Filipino blood but they were all born, raised here, and took their education from elementary to college in the Philippines.
Those you mentioned have Filipino blood.. they just have Chinese family names.. if you trace their ancestry, either their moms are Pinoys or their grandparents are.. Atoy Co was even a councilor at Pasig..
Filipino blood is the main determinant in playing in the PBA as a local.. Marcus Douthit is a naturalized player and Philippine Passport holder but he is still considered an import.. no player is considered a local unless he has Filipino blood.. that's the rule in the PBA..
I think the PBA will only change the rule if a player in the caliber of MJ, Kobe or Kareem comes knocking.. but if there is someone as good as them, I doubt they'd choose to play here.. nothing against Kirk Long.. he's a decent player but I don't think the PBA will change its rules to accommodate him.. they didn't do it for Alex Compton who was better than Long so I doubt they'd do it for him..
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there were two foreigners who were given the opportunity to play even in the all-filipino conferences during the early years of the pba. these were israel "cisco" oliver and billy robinson.
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there were two foreigners who were given the opportunity to play even in the all-filipino conferences during the early years of the pba. these were israel "cisco" oliver and billy robinson.
yes but they were still considered imports.. it was a concession given to weaker teams back then, '77 and '78, I think..
I think the only time naturalized players suited up as locals was when NCC played as guest team in '84/'85.. Jeff Moore, Dennis Still at si Chip Engelland ata naturalized at that time.. well, I think they still weren't locals given that NCC was just a guest team then..
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^ Yup, naturalized Engelland, Moore & Still were allowed to play for Northern Cement (guest team).
Kirk Long should probably apply as a regional-import for an ABL team, if rules allow for a case such as his ..... who knows, a few years down the road & the PBA might make its own rule changes to allow him to play.
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i would love to see him play for TNT. he's not a flashy player but very effective just like fellow eagle fonacier.
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mga sir may alam ba kayo nagtitinda ng mga old school jersey ng PBA?
(like crispa, toyota, sunkist, popcola etc...)
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Titan at The Fort sells old school jerseys.
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dun din sinasabi ng mga kaibigan ko..
magkano naman price?by order ba sila or kung ano lang stock nila dun?
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http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.241351065912224.55010.121694084544590&type=3
Here's the link for titan sir ;)
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Sir, Meron din kaya dvd ng PBA greatest games sa titan or other stores?
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Sir, Meron din kaya dvd ng PBA greatest games sa titan or other stores?
meron sa odisi at video city brader. i just don't know kung meron pa. nakabili ako ng mga dvds na yan dati. (kasama sa nakulimbat sa akin). viva ang nag-release. ung mga lumang games, ang pangit ng audio at video. ang magandang quality lang is ung finals between air21 and ginebra (2008).
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As expected, JB Baylon just resigned from Coca-Cola Philippines ..... the main dissenting voice against POWERADE's impending sale to SMC, is gone.
The ludicrous trade proposal of POWERADE's Lassiter for PETRON's Baclao/Guevarra will likely push through now ...... not unless a huge collective "hell no" from the PBA board will happen on the upcoming special meeting.
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As expected, JB Baylon just resigned from Coca-Cola Philippines ..... the main dissenting voice against POWERADE's impending sale to SMC, is gone.
The ludicrous trade proposal of POWERADE's Lassiter for PETRON's Baclao/Guevarra will likely push through now ...... not unless a huge collective "hell no" from the PBA board will happen on the upcoming special meeting.
sad day again for us basketball loving people, i hope one day other members of the league would have the guts to put and end to this, while players get lucrative salaries, it is not helathy for them as well since the SMC teams get loaded with superstars, not evrybody gets to play, un fair for the players and the fans as well, too bad when a player gets traded, he can not say no and tell the owners, i want to stay
a well balanced team would have been great, more fans would return to loving the game and the interest in the pba would again be rekindled, good for the players, the fans, the advertisers
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As expected, JB Baylon just resigned from Coca-Cola Philippines ..... the main dissenting voice against POWERADE's impending sale to SMC, is gone.
The ludicrous trade proposal of POWERADE's Lassiter for PETRON's Baclao/Guevarra will likely push through now ...... not unless a huge collective "hell no" from the PBA board will happen on the upcoming special meeting.
iba na tlga ang taong may prinsipio hndi tulad ng iba mga pupets.
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^ Sad development ..... let's wait for the result of the board meeting on MON.
In on-court related news ..... just an excellent game earlier between ALASKA & GINEBRA.
Big shot after big shot after big shot ..... starring Baguio/Tenorio and Caguioa/Raymundo.
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^ Sad development ..... let's wait for the result of the board meeting on MON.
In on-court related news ..... just an excellent game earlier between ALASKA & GINEBRA.
Big shot after big shot after big shot ..... starring Baguio/Tenorio and Caguioa/Raymundo.
first time i was able to watch a game that long and i was very happy i didnt missed it. kerby is indeed a bigtime player, i have seen him done the things he did last night over and over again, such a nice touch for big man and im very happy to have seen Baguio playing like this, the guy seems to be thriving in the kind of play that alaska has currently
and what can i say about tenorio, he is the biggest smallest man, back to back 3 point shot with one completing even a 3 point play
so sad indeed that some executives fool around with people yet you have players who plays their heart out like this
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meron sa odisi at video city brader. i just don't know kung meron pa. nakabili ako ng mga dvds na yan dati. (kasama sa nakulimbat sa akin). viva ang nag-release. ung mga lumang games, ang pangit ng audio at video. ang magandang quality lang is ung finals between air21 and ginebra (2008).
Thanks brader A, sorry brader naalala mo pa tuloy yung mga collections mo :(
Namimiss ko din kasi yung mga players & games na nagpapakamatay sa bola yung mga players, yung dinadive yung bola tapos hahampas sila sa poste or sa committee's table :o tapos no easy basket!!! no blood no foul hahaha :D
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first time i was able to watch a game that long and i was very happy i didnt missed it. kerby is indeed a bigtime player, i have seen him done the things he did last night over and over again, such a nice touch for big man and im very happy to have seen Baguio playing like this, the guy seems to be thriving in the kind of play that alaska has currently
and what can i say about tenorio, he is the biggest smallest man, back to back 3 point shot with one completing even a 3 point play
so sad indeed that some executives fool around with people yet you have players who plays their heart out like this
Nanonood ka na pala uli brader :) ganda ng laban kahit na talo yung team ko hehehe Sulit na sulit kasi talaga namang dapat ganyan laruin ang basketball, wala ng bukas-bukas pa, hanggat may oras pa, di pa tapos ang laban, dagger yung 4pt play ni L.A. - ang laki talaga ng puso ng batang 'to, manalo matalo ititira talaga nya! Pansin ko lang sa plays ng Alaska kagabi, Ginebra-like yung plays nila, run & gun, pick & roll, paminsan minsa meron ding high -post triangle then back to pick & roll, yun nga lang lamang na lamang ang Alaska sa big men, injured pa din ba si Menk? kung di lang nag gain si Menk ng too much weight di sana sya madalas mag ka knee injury, marami pa din sana syang papahirapan sa liga...
Agree ako sayo brader, galing din ni Kerby, grabe buong buo din ang loob tumira sa mid range kahit na malas sa free throw, kung pumasok lang free throws nila kagabi, laki pa ng lamang nila pala...tapos di sila dapat nagfoul kasi lamang pa sila ng 3pts...mental lapse on coaching side-lesson learned :-[
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babalik pala si norman black sa pba to coach tnt, si chot reyes naman baka mapunta sa smart gilas team
http://sports.inquirer.net/35225/ateneo-%E2%80%985-peat%E2%80%99-bid-last-for-pba-bound-norman-black
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mali ng ginebra inubos nila ang time-out nila, remember yung sinabi ng commentator, nagtime-out ginebra dahil binasa daw nila yung play ng alaska, ayun pumasok tira ni Tenorio, edi nagkumahog sila para maka-shoot.
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Commisioner Salud vetoes Lassiter trade:
http://www.philstar.com/sportsarticle.aspx?publicationsubcategoryid=69&articleid=779654&keyword=sp_pba
Still think that the trade will still materialize, SMB wants Lassiter badly... I just hope for the sake of the fans that Powerade gets the right players to make the trade more balanced.
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Petron will just revise or modify the deal... ;D Adding draft picks will do the trick, just like previous trades.
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Petron will just revise or modify the deal... ;D Adding draft picks will do the trick, just like previous trades.
I dont think SMB/Petron will we willing to part with draft picks right now since they are seeing the next draft class as a very strong batch thus the reason they have been stocking on draft picks via trades.
They even offered Rabeh recently to the Air 21 franchise in exchange for their 2012 draft pick but nothing materialized.
A more logical choice for them is to let Rabeh and Noy for Lassiter and a 2nd round draft pick, or Rabeh and Yeo for Lassiter and a 2nd round DP or a straight up Lassiter to J Wash trade...
For me the first option makes sense to both teams:
Petron gets what it wants in Lassiter and a 2nd round pick which may become of great value since the draft is loaded an early 2nd rd pick can become a steal.
Powerade gets its much needed boost in the front to complement El Granada and Casio plus now the slot of SF left by Cio can be secured by a continually developing Sean Anthony who no longer be undersized as the 2 new ones will be already playing the 4-5 slots along with Kramer.
It is also good for both Baclao and Rabeh, since they will be given the playing time and the chance in Powerade unlike in Petron where there is no way they will get significant minutes with Arwin there, J Wash returning there or until Danny I retires. The sudden improvement of Rob Reyes' game will also hinder their growth...
Overall everyone is happy... I think a starting 5 of casio, david, anthony, kramer and rabeh with baclao and vanlandingham coming from the bench is somewhat competetive already... just my 2 cents ;D
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http://sports.inquirer.net/35555/revised-pba-trade-al-hussaini-guevarra-for-lassiter
Petron will do anything to get Lassiter...... ;D
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i hope it gets vetoed again. honestly, kahit sa ginebra pa mapunta si marcio. enough SMC manipulation!
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Yup, Noli Eala is hellbent on impressing his SMC bosses ..... stacking his 3 teams as much as possible, circumventing rules and professional ethics ..... all in the name of corporate dominance over the MVP group (no angels themselves).
Both Bo Perasol & JB Baylon have gone on record, saying that they dont want to trade any of their core players .... so how come trade revisions for Lassiter are still pending?
It's very obvious that it's a top management thing .... and both COKE & SMC were caught with their pants down. ;D
The sensitive document that turned up was very incriminating in a pro basketball way ..... it confirmed that the POWERADE franchise was up for sale & that SMC had first dibs.
It's clear that SMC intended to pirate Lassiter as part of the franchise sale and/or before POWERADE comes under it's umbrella ..... it has happened before with COKE (Reavis, Hatfield, etc) and SLR (Williams & Reyes) courtesy of SMC & MVP respectively.
Veto any trade revision ..... leave POWERADE as is - a testament that any losing team can rebuild itself properly via the draft.
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http://www.pbaddicts.net/t18904-video-top-5-plays-of-the-week-february-10-17-2012#340909 (http://www.pbaddicts.net/t18904-video-top-5-plays-of-the-week-february-10-17-2012#340909)
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Veto any trade revision ..... leave POWERADE as is - a testament that any losing team can rebuild itself properly via the draft.
agree. besides, i believe petron has a number of first and second round draft picks next season. so, why set their sights of lassiter when they would have a lot of other choices next season. one might say that the draft picks next season will be a good addition to the current line-up and lassiter. but it is not a far-fetched idea for powerade to ask for draft picks before letting go of marcio. if i were powerade, i would ask for ALL the draft picks of petron for the next season in exchange for lassiter. this is one way of saying "HELL, NO!" to the trade.
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I'd rather not trade for Lassiter.. He really isn't anything special.. What he does for Powerade, Lutz and Yeo are already doing for Petron.. I'd rather take Casio over him.. or better yet, Sean Anthony.. those two have guts and heart.. Lassiter has more talent and better skills but he doesn't have that fire in him.. In my opinion, giving up 2 quality & young but rarely used players for him is more than enough.. giving up picks for him is too much..
Petron doesn't really need great players.. they don't need any more talent.. ang kulang sa kanila puso.. pa-pogi lang kasi yung mga star nila.. stats lang pinapansin.. on games that really matter, they disappear..
But what Petron really needs is a change in management.. alisin na yang may mga hidden agenda.. if that doesn't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if Ato Agustin leaves..
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Wag sana payagan yang trade ke marcio, ang lakas na ng lineup ng petron kahit sa sister team ng SMC mapunta yan di na magiging balansyado ang talents ng ibang team.
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talagang gusto makuha ng petron si marcio.
i feel sorry for JB Baylon rin kasi kung kailan gumanda ang takbo ng team na build up nila eh tsaka naman nagkagulo ng ganito...
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I'd rather not trade for Lassiter.. He really isn't anything special.. What he does for Powerade, Lutz and Yeo are already doing for Petron..
So true but Lutz seems to be prone to injuries while Yeo is inconsistent. Furthermore, it seems the other teams have found a way to adjust to Lutz's style of play, thus Lutz's impact has been lessened.
I'd rather take Casio over him..
Casio has shown he can play with bigger boys than the big boys of the PBA. He will definitely help whatever team he plays for provided he gets the playing time.
or better yet, Sean Anthony...
Petron has already too many big men. A proper rotation of their big men would serve them better.
those two have guts and heart.. Lassiter has more talent and better skills but he doesn't have that fire in him.. In my opinion, giving up 2 quality & young but rarely used players for him is more than enough.. giving up picks for him is too much..
the new proposed deal is to give up Rabeh and Guevarra for Lassiter. IMO this is not a good deal for Petron. Rabeh was doing good in the conference they won until he was injured. They should give him time to jell again with the team. Guevarra is a very good offensive player who can provide them points if they need it. Petron just needs to devise ways to maximize their potentials.
Petron doesn't really need great players.. they don't need any more talent..ang kulang sa kanila puso..
I have to disagree with this! ;D Most of their players have shown in the past that they have heart! Duda lang ako kay Cabagnot! siya talaga ang nawala nung last conference lalo pa in the last 3 games of their semis with TnT. But the rest, ang problema pa nga ay sobrang puso kaya ang tendency ay magkanya-kanya ng diskarte thus disrupting their natural flow and patterns!
pa-pogi lang kasi yung mga star nila.. stats lang pinapansin.. on games that really matter, they disappear..
But what Petron really needs is a change in management.. alisin na yang may mga hidden agenda.. if that doesn't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if Ato Agustin leaves..
Tama! patalsikin na si Eala!
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Save for Danny I, Denok, Lutz and at times, Rob Reyes, nobody else played all out every game last conference especially sa semis.. si Cabagnot at Arwind, nawala after that 3-1 lead.. and what's worse, they acted like it was all right when they lost.. hindi naman puso meron yung mga players ng Petron.. yabang meron sila.. it's sad really considering the kind of people they have on and behind the bench.. Ato, Olsen, Freddie Abuda, Bobby Parks, Pido.. all of them played their hearts out when they were still playing.. tapos Danny I led by example pa..
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gary daaaaaavvvvvvvviiiiiiiidddddddddddddd
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another down-the-wire finish for the gin kings in dubai, which almost slipped from their hands had gabe norwood made that desperation shot. gusto kasing maging bida eh...he still had 2 ticks when he released that shot. he could still pass it on to a teammate or could have gone closer to the basket.
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another down-the-wire finish for the gin kings in dubai, which almost slipped from their hands had gabe norwood made that desperation shot. gusto kasing maging bida eh...he still had 2 ticks when he released that shot. he could still pass it on to a teammate or could have gone closer to the basket.
Instruction pala ni coach Yeng ay no-foul & timeout agad once they got the ball...kaso nagmental lapse si Crews, pagkakuha ng rebound, imbes na humingi ng time out, he passed the ball to Norwood & went for the fast break, but sorry, ganon talaga, a win is a win ikanga ;)
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Chris Alexander has been replaced. Ginebra will be parading a new import this Sunday.
well, Ginebra has always been frustrated with balik-imports. IIRC, the last successful balik-import for the gin kings was bates and hackett (returning with bates in the 2-import conference).
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Ginebra will be parading Jackson Vroman. upgrade yan as long as he is in peak condition =)
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Ginebra will be parading Jackson Vroman. upgrade yan as long as he is in peak condition =)
Nakapaglaro na pla yan ng NBA :)
(http://www.nba.com/media/suns/nov04_vroman_opener.jpg)
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wala kasi talaga sa kundisyon si Alexander e, konting takbo lang hinihingal na...sobrang ingat lang talaga ng management, matalo lang sila ng 3 times tagilid na
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Chris Alexander has been replaced. Ginebra will be parading a new import this Sunday.
well, Ginebra has always been frustrated with balik-imports. IIRC, the last successful balik-import for the gin kings was bates and hackett (returning with bates in the 2-import conference).
why? di ba bets import ito nung una and ang lakas naman sa rebound at defense
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Chris Alexander is far from the dominating presence he had during his first tour of duty. conditioning issues perhaps?
pero if presented with a jackson vroman, its a good option to upgrade import na.
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Chris Alexander was largely inactive when he was tapped by BGK ...... his conditioning was suspect - coincidentally, SMC boss Noli Eala wasn't too high on Alexander in the first place.
Noli Eala gets his wish now.
I would have preferred that BGK sticks with Alexander (assuming he gets in shape) ...... BGK has a ton of scorers and Alexander gives them just what they need - rebounds and strong defense in the paint.
On the court, Alexander seems to play lackadaisically ..... but he somehow gets the job done.
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Chris Alexander was largely inactive when he was tapped by BGK ...... his conditioning was suspect - coincidentally, SMC boss Noli Eala wasn't too high on Alexander in the first place.
Noli Eala gets his wish now.
I would have preferred that BGK sticks with Alexander (assuming he gets in shape) ...... BGK has a ton of scorers and Alexander gives them just what they need - rebounds and strong defense in the paint.
On the court, Alexander seems to play lackadaisically ..... but he somehow gets the job done.
thats what i thought sir newwave, the losses that BGK got in the last couple of games i saw where breaks of the game lang, who would have thought that tenorio would hit back to back 3 point shot with the first one getting him a four point play, in that game, i thought alexander did well in defense and rebounding, he changed a lot of shot from alaska and because he was dominating in rebounding, it gives more confidence on the BGK shooters to shoot from the outside.
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why? di ba bets import ito nung una and ang lakas naman sa rebound at defense
Chris Alexander is far from the dominating presence he had during his first tour of duty. conditioning issues perhaps?
pero if presented with a jackson vroman, its a good option to upgrade import na.
yup, conditioning issues. it has been said that chris alexander has not played active basketball for nine months prior to the second conference. and for professional ball players, that is a looong time. kita naman sa laro nya eh. ang dali nya mapagod. and he seems a bot slow compared to the first time he played in 2008.
I would have preferred that BGK sticks with Alexander (assuming he gets in shape) ...... BGK has a ton of scorers and Alexander gives them just what they need - rebounds and strong defense in the paint.
On the court, Alexander seems to play lackadaisically ..... but he somehow gets the job done.
agree! ginebra does not need a scoring import. they have a lot of scorers already. personally, alexander is more than enough for them. he may not score that heavily, but he is a monster off the boards. if i am not mistaken, he has not gone below 20 rebounds in his three games. PLUS the other intangibles that he contributes --- players changing their shots in the paint because of him, the picks he provides for his teammates, familiarity with the system. the replacement may be a good scorer, but i think this would have a great effect on the offensive flow of the team, especially on the local scorers.
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yup, conditioning issues. it has been said that chris alexander has not played active basketball for nine months prior to the second conference. and for professional ball players, that is a looong time. kita naman sa laro nya eh. ang dali nya mapagod. and he seems a bot slow compared to the first time he played in 2008.
agree! ginebra does not need a scoring import. they have a lot of scorers already. personally, alexander is more than enough for them. he may not score that heavily, but he is a monster off the boards. if i am not mistaken, he has not gone below 20 rebounds in his three games. PLUS the other intangibles that he contributes --- players changing their shots in the paint because of him, the picks he provides for his teammates, familiarity with the system. the replacement may be a good scorer, but i think this would have a great effect on the offensive flow of the team, especially on the local scorers.
Before, imports were hired to do the jobs, high scoring and rebounding w/c made them exciting to watch. Now, it seems role players nlng ang mga imports w/c makes them boring to watch.
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Chris Alexander was largely inactive when he was tapped by BGK ...... his conditioning was suspect - coincidentally, SMC boss Noli Eala wasn't too high on Alexander in the first place.
Noli Eala gets his wish now.
I would have preferred that BGK sticks with Alexander (assuming he gets in shape) ...... BGK has a ton of scorers and Alexander gives them just what they need - rebounds and strong defense in the paint.
On the court, Alexander seems to play lackadaisically ..... but he somehow gets the job done.
exactly Sir newwave! nakakainis nga din si eala, ginagawa naman ni Alexander lahat ng efforts, iba yung may tower ka sa gitna, mas mataas ang kumpiyansa ng shooters sa outside shots nila...sana standby lang muna dito si Alexander, hanggang makuha nya yung tamang conditioning, malay natin ibalik sya sa playoffs :)
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si eala ang dapat palitan. sya ang nagsimulang mang-baboy sa pba simula nang mapunta sya sa SMC.
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si eala ang dapat palitan. sya ang nagsimulang mang-baboy sa pba simula nang mapunta sya sa SMC.
Exactly. The only reason this guy had a job with the PBA, was due to his gift of gab (much like Ryan Gregorio) ..... ironic that his flowery words were the exact same reason he was disbarred and kicked-out from the PBA.
He is known in local media circles as "pogi" or "loverboy". ;D
MVP took him in for his past PBA experience and of course, his close Ateneo ties ..... however, it didn't take long for the MVP boys to see the scheming-side of Noli Eala e.g. GILAS delayed salaries, naturalization candidate issues, charges of missing funds, etc.
Just a week before he was fired by MVP, Noli Eala even had multiple rants/tweets about game results manipulation (bigayan) & gross connivance between the SMC teams ..... very low set of principles this man has.
In his short time as SMC sports head ..... just look at the numerous questionable & lopsides deals he has made for SMC - not even counting the recent pirating attempt for Lassiter.
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any news on pba trades? =)
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^^
none yet. busy pa si lover boy magpalit ng import. ::)
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There's news that new BGK import Vroman got his nose broken during scrimmage .... not surprising for Vroman though, being a known enforcer.
If it's accurate, there's the remote possibility (one can always wear a protective mask) that BGK might not have an import for its SUN game versus POWERADE ...... karma might come early for Noli "Lover Boy" Eala. ;D
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There's news that new BGK import Vroman got his nose broken during scrimmage .... not surprising for Vroman though, being a known enforcer.
If it's accurate, there's the remote possibility (one can always wear a protective mask) that BGK might not have an import for its SUN game versus POWERADE ...... karma might come early for Noli "Lover Boy" Eala. ;D
he's actually been cleared to play.. no fracture, actually.. he'll play with a mask just like Kobe did..
I don't get why people are mad that Alexander was replaced.. Ginebra could easily have been 0-3 this conference.. and with the talent they have on their roster, barely winning 2 games is not acceptable.. tinatambakan dapat nila mga kalaban nila with the lineup they have and the way their locals are playing.. but instead, they needed a buzzer-beater from Jayjay and a mental lapse from RoS to pull of wins..
Alexander was more of a liability than an asset for Ginebra.. he wasn't much of post presence anymore.. ang bilis na mapagod.. in a short elimination round where the last 4 teams getting eliminated right away, you can't afford to wait for your import to get in shape.. he may have been a monster off the boards but Ginebra has a lot of big men on their lineup now.. they even have Hatfield back.. Mark Caguioa is even averaging 10rebs in their 3 games this conference.. and his free throw shooting is horrible.. di na nga pumupuntos, pag na-foul di pa maka-shoot.. and his defensive presence isn't what it used to be.. sure, he can still alter shots but his reactions aren't that fast anymore..
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I don't get why people are mad that Alexander was replaced
Alexander was more of a liability than an asset for Ginebra.. he wasn't much of post presence anymore.. ang bilis na mapagod.. in a short elimination round where the last 4 teams getting eliminated right away, you can't afford to wait for your import to get in shape.. he may have been a monster off the boards but Ginebra has a lot of big men on their lineup now..
and his free throw shooting is horrible.. di na nga pumupuntos, pag na-foul di pa maka-shoot.. and his defensive presence isn't what it used to be.. sure, he can still alter shots but his reactions aren't that fast anymore..
i think the better term would be -- disappointed.
perhaps, it is because he openly declared that he wants to play for ginebra, and ONLY ginebra. i think this gesture endeared him to the fans, as well as the players, of the team. thus, the disappointment.
and i also agree with you, despite being one of those a bit disappointed with the replacement (:P), that alexander is not who he used to be when he first played here. he was obviously out of shape and the 9-month lay off has definitely taken its toll on him. he's slower, easily gets tired, not as accurate as he was (shootingwise). and yes, his reactions aren't as fast anymore. although he can still block shots, his numbers in the block department has significantly dipped compared to his first tour of duty.
vroman seems to be a good replacement, if press releases are true. and the fans of ginebra will forget alexander being replaced in no time.
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Panalo tayo brader kanina, ang sipag ni Vroman...all around player, he makes his teammates really good on both ends of the court, bagay na bagay sya sa Ginebra, very versatile & efficient player...nag level up ang bgk :)
"Not to take anything away from Chris, because he brought us wins naman," said Ginebra head coach
Siot Tanquingcen. "(But) we always look for ways to improve iyung team namin. Sa versatility niya
(Vroman) nagbabago timpla ng team namin."
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with Vroman, i see BGK as the team to challenge TNT for the championship.
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aaahhh......lia cruz....nice to see her pretty face again in the PBA.
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sayang na foul trouble si vroman. pero kung hindi eh na keep in check sana yung pagputok ni earl barron nung 3rd quarter. sa bgk, kung nandun pa si ronald tubid eh di nakaporma ng ganun si cardona.
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sayang na foul trouble si vroman. pero kung hindi eh na keep in check sana yung pagputok ni earl barron nung 3rd quarter. sa bgk, kung nandun pa si ronald tubid eh di nakaporma ng ganun si cardona.
Sama nga ng timpla ng ulo ni Vroman kagabi, sayang din kasi di nga halos makaporma si Barron sa kanya dahil magaling din dumepensa, kaso mahilig sumundot kasi kaya na foul trouble, pansin ko lang kagabi ang daming tulakan sa ilalim pero hinahayaan lang ng referees, at duon nainis si Vroman dahil puro tulak kasi inabot nya kagabi.
+1tb kay Tubid defending cardona sana - I think kaya ni John Wilson bantayan si Cardona, bakit di kaya sinubukan ng coaches? Very effective na din talaga si Villanueva sa pick & roll play since last conference pa, why not start him instead of Mamaril?
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sayang yung John Wilson on Cardona. siguro kung hindi foul trouble si vroman eh pwede nakapag experiment si coach siot ng ganun na at least if makalusot si cardona eh may vroman pa na hahabol.
sayang rin yung mga galaw ni hatfield kagabi including the crucial turnover sa transition from a pass ni the spark.
enrico shoud be in the starting lineup together with vroman para may strong ceiling sa umpisa and hayaan mag adjust ang ibang teams sa kanila and para di magka rhythm ang import ng kalaban. tapos from there eh he can change players na ranging from a speed lineup to a defensive lineup and so on.
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sayang din ung undergoal stab ni kerby in the dying seconds. it could have brought the lead down to two with still around 40 seconds left. and their free throw shooting was HORRIBLE!!! captain hook, the sol train and earl barron, on the other hand, were scorching hot...
but seeing Lia made my night. ;D
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Lia Cruz is really pretty lalo na in person.
Saw her couple of times already because my brother's girlfriend is Lia's best friend ;D
sayang din ung undergoal stab ni kerby in the dying seconds. it could have brought the lead down to two with still around 40 seconds left. and their free throw shooting was HORRIBLE!!! captain hook, the sol train and earl barron, on the other hand, were scorching hot...
but seeing Lia made my night. ;D
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+1tb pretty nga sya in person :D
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/wengkapre/sdc12508-1.jpg)
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+1tb pretty nga sya in person :D
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/wengkapre/sdc12508-1.jpg)
Uy may gwaping sa likod oh!!! :)
Kaya lang taken na cya brader Weng...
Bokalista ng isang banda ang kanyang kasintahan ;D
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+1tb pretty nga sya in person :D
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/wengkapre/sdc12508-1.jpg)
anak ng.....!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
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stupid question lang (hindi kasi madalas manood ng live) - kapag sunday games sa araneta, 1 ticket is good for both games parang uaap? makakabili ba ng tickets sa pba office or sa araneta lang talaga? thanks
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stupid question lang (hindi kasi madalas manood ng live) - kapag sunday games sa araneta, 1 ticket is good for both games parang uaap? makakabili ba ng tickets sa pba office or sa araneta lang talaga? thanks
Yes good for 2 games na yun :)
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stupid question lang (hindi kasi madalas manood ng live) - kapag sunday games sa araneta, 1 ticket is good for both games parang uaap? makakabili ba ng tickets sa pba office or sa araneta lang talaga? thanks
dati nakakabili ako online, sa national book store at sa SM Malls.
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Pede pa ba sa national bookstore? Dati dun din ako bumibili.
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ticketnet at venue box office na lang yata ngayon...
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Pwede pa rin sa SM.
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thanks sa info bros, will watch live soon
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the Ginkings:
with chris alexander --- 2-1
with jackson vroman --- 1-2
loverboy eala must be profusely sweating by now....
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pero i still believe na mas okay sila with vroman. consistency lang on finishing the games ang kailangan and yung rotation ng players ni coach siot kailangan ma-optimize.
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Kailangan ni Vroman magpractice ng free throws. Sandamakmak minimintis kada laro. Below 50% ang average...
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pero i still believe na mas okay sila with vroman. consistency lang on finishing the games ang kailangan and yung rotation ng players ni coach siot kailangan ma-optimize.
consistency has always been the chink in ginebra's armor.
Kailangan ni Vroman magpractice ng free throws. Sandamakmak minimintis kada laro. Below 50% ang average...
yup. he has the lowest free throw percentage among the crop of imports -- a very dismal 40%. "hack-a-shaq" strategy is not far behind.
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Still early to say I-told-you-so ...... like I've posted earlier, I would have preferred that BGK retained Chris Alexander - assuming his conditioning progresses of course.
I've always felt that BGK doesnt need an alpha-scorer import, since they're already loaded with scorers (moreso when Ababou & Raymundo came onboard) ..... Chris Alexander provided what they needed the most e.g. solid post defense, solid rebounding & the occasional putback.
Don't get me wrong, Vroman had the buzz in international hoops and he has proven to be equal to the hype ..... very agile for his size, gung-ho attitude and highly skilled.
BGK may yet hit its stride ..... just need to win 2/3 remaining games to make it to the playoffs.
OT: Vroman needs some work on his FT's ..... his misses all look the same - straight-line misses that end up short on the front rim. His FT shot is straight, which shows he has a decent release ..... might need to tweak a bit.
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i think alexander is a better fit for ginebra, parang palaging off yung galaw ni vroman at di synch sa galaw ng buong team parang kontra tyempo eh, nasisira yung flow ng offense ng team. with alexander, halos lahat ng apat na ibang members ng team na nasa loob pwedeng pumukol with confidence as opposed to with vroman, parang naging tentative di malaman kung i shoot nila o ipapasa kay vroman, ewan ko kung tama observations ko
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i think alexander is a better fit for ginebra, parang palaging off yung galaw ni vroman at di synch sa galaw ng buong team parang kontra tyempo eh, nasisira yung flow ng offense ng team. with alexander, halos lahat ng apat na ibang members ng team na nasa loob pwedeng pumukol with confidence as opposed to with vroman, parang naging tentative di malaman kung i shoot nila o ipapasa kay vroman, ewan ko kung tama observations ko
That was the nice thing about Alexander's game ..... he blended with the offense, since he had many offensive minded teammates - basically a role player and obviously not a heavy scorer.
Alpha-scorers like Vroman will have that effect sometimes - the other players will tend to watch while he has the ball.
Vroman needs some work on his FT's and he needs to tone down on his emotions (which was a big concern even before he came over).
He seems to have little conscience in defense, having a tendency to poke, hack & grab when posted by the opposing import ..... he's had his problems keeping his fouls.
Still, Vroman is good as advertised ...... should BGK make the playoffs, they might hit their stride (much like POWERADE last conference) and make a serious challenge to TnT.
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I like that Siot seems to recognize the value of Ababou, by giving him good minutes ..... Ababou can defend like hell and can score within the flow of the offense.
It's hard to balance minutes within an uber-loaded team ..... something that Chot Reyes has learned to do with his TnT team.
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I like that Siot seems to recognize the value of Ababou, by giving him good minutes ..... Ababou can defend like hell and can score within the flow of the offense.
It's hard to balance minutes within an uber-loaded team ..... something that Chot Reyes has learned to do with his TnT team.
everytime i get a glimpse ng bench ng BGK, nang hihinayang ako para sa ibang team, daming magaling na natutulog na lang sa bangko nila, it would have been nice seeing them play and not languish in the bench. sana pamigay na lang sa iba yung katulad ni hoffer at canaleta
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everytime i get a glimpse ng bench ng BGK, nang hihinayang ako para sa ibang team, daming magaling na natutulog na lang sa bangko nila, it would have been nice seeing them play and not languish in the bench. sana pamigay na lang sa iba yung katulad ni hoffer at canaleta
Spot on ..... BGK hasn't even seen the likes of Menk, Maierhoffer & Maliksi play ...... very few minutes so far for both Wilsons, Villanueva, Canaleta & Labagala.
There is no way in hell that Noli "Loverboy" Eala will allow a thin roster for any of the SMC teams ...... his mission has always been to beat TnT by stacking his teams with talent; without any regard to ethics, professionalism & perceived salary cap violations.
Tim Cone himself has seen the problems that an ultra-loaded lineup presents ..... too many cooks spoil the broth.
Tim Cone has kept his rotation very tight (which he has always done) ..... only 8-9 usually get to play. He has even relegated Roger Yap to the bench - that Yap himself opted out of the PBA recently.
Most coaches would likely give a guy like Japeth Aguilar good minutes ...... yet Chot Reyes has realized that the guy is still too raw & has relegated him to the bench for sometime now.
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Spot on ..... BGK hasn't even seen the likes of Menk, Maierhoffer & Maliksi play ...... very few minutes so far for both Wilsons, Villanueva, Canaleta & Labagala.
There is no way in hell that Noli "Loverboy" Eala will allow a thin roster for any of the SMC teams ...... his mission has always been to beat TnT by stacking his teams with talent; without any regard to ethics, professionalism & perceived salary cap violations.
Tim Cone himself has seen the problems that an ultra-loaded lineup presents ..... too many cooks spoil the broth.
Tim Cone has kept his rotation very tight (which he has always done) ..... only 8-9 usually get to play. He has even relegated Roger Yap to the bench - that Yap himself opted out of the PBA recently.
Most coaches would likely give a guy like Japeth Aguilar good minutes ...... yet Chot Reyes has realized that the guy is still too raw & has relegated him to the bench for sometime now.
in the case of tim cone, he defines the role of his players very well and is not a sucker for getting all the best only to freeze them in the bench, Roger Yap has been a soild PG his entire years but between him and PJ Simon, id play Simon more because he is instant offense and is very intense, Yap's plight was not helped by the heads up play of barroca, who has been very solid and is playing like a veteran already, Yaps playing time would definitely dwindle with Barroca playing like this all the time.
I pity Maliksi considering he is the MVP of the PBA D League, he would have flourished say playing for Barako Bull or Powerade(is this his former team?)
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in the case of tim cone, he defines the role of his players very well and is not a sucker for getting all the best only to freeze them in the bench, Roger Yap has been a soild PG his entire years but between him and PJ Simon, id play Simon more because he is instant offense and is very intense, Yap's plight was not helped by the heads up play of barroca, who has been very solid and is playing like a veteran already, Yaps playing time would definitely dwindle with Barroca playing like this all the time.
I pity Maliksi considering he is the MVP of the PBA D League, he would have flourished say playing for Barako Bull or Powerade(is this his former team?)
Even with ALASKA, Tim Cone never had the luxury of an ultra-loaded lineup ...... hence, a tight rotation of 8-9 players is always ensured. His triangle system basically doesnt need great individual scorers.
Indeed Urbiztondo & Barroca's (both courtesy of Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina by the way) play has rendered Roger Yap to the end of the bench ..... just to show what an ultra-loaded lineup that BMEG has - PG Jonas Villanueva is also part of the lineup.
Maliksi will indeed be wasted in BGK's bench ..... he was doing great guns for BARAKO BULL, when the inevitable happened - Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina sold este traded him to SMC, just after 1 conference.
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In recent news: ALASKA owner Wilfred Uytengsu has sold his company to Dutch firm Royal Friesland Campina ...... Uytengsu still retains his post as CEO and has vowed to retain the PBA franchise.
Dutch aren't known as basketball followers, so we'll see what happens next season.
It would be a pity if ever ALASKA, the lone bastion of integrity in the PBA, folds up next.
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GINEBRA!!!
GINEBRA!!!
GINEBRA!!!
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Hanep ang Rudy Hatfield...
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Ang galing ni the H-Bomb! booom!!!
parang rookie :D :D :D
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buti na lang H-Bomb to the rescue! =)
ilagay sa bench si labagala... di maganda na siya ang starting PG.
Caidic and samboy lim should really spend time teaching Vroman to shoot FTs. saw Vroman during warmups and he was calmly making his FTs. maybe they should teach him to just focus on the goal and not mind the crowd and other factors (score, time left on the game, game situation). basta parang sa commercial ni haywood workman dati "just release"
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1 of 14 free throws. darn! if vroman made it 2 for 14, the game would have gone into overtime.
rudy hatfield was a monster! good thing he exploded last night.
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yep. buti na lang maganda gising ni H-Bomb kahapon. may times kasi na kahit mga layups niya eh di pumapasok.
btw, is ali peek on the injured list? kung nandun yun siya yesterday, the game would've been different kasi may isa pang defender sa ilalim and yung mga cuts ni H-Bomb that lead to layups baka naiba ang outcome.
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1 of 14 free throws. darn! if vroman made it 2 for 14, the game would have gone into overtime.
rudy hatfield was a monster! good thing he exploded last night.
i dont think they should be keeping an import like this, ang iksi ng tournament wala ng time matuto pa yan ng freethrow, in a close game and it happens frequently, he will become a liability as they will just keep on fouling him, balik na lang si alexander
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balik na lang si alexander
he should have not been junked in the first place. what he lacked in scoring, he made up on rebounds and intimidation. also, he is familiar with the moves of the gin kings' main players and would know where to find them on the court or where to set up a screen. charismatic pa, compared to vroman who seems to be a snub.
...ali peek...kung nandun yun siya yesterday, the game would've been different kasi may isa pang defender sa ilalim and yung mga cuts ni H-Bomb that lead to layups baka naiba ang outcome.
maybe, maybe not...looking at it, most of hatfield's points were either on fast breaks or from the perimeter.
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alexander is also a nightmare on the FT. bigyan pa natin ng time to adjust to the local game si vroman.
yesterday, even though matindi ang FT ni vroman at 1/14, we saw him playing D, gettin rebounds and setting up other guys. marami sa mga points ni H-Bomb was due to Vroman's inside passes that lead to easy layups. healthy teammate din siya kasi masipag sa laro and can even guard smaller players when switched off during screens.
the hack-a-vroman may be done by other teams but i'll take my chances with him at this point in the tournament. i believe they should keep him as an import.
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bakit kadalasan pag matangkad bano sa free throw? ;D
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bakit kadalasan pag matangkad bano sa free throw? ;D
di lang nila na-develop as part of their game when they were still learning the basics. pero there are big men din naman that are good FT shooters (yao ming, dirk nowitzki etc.)
pwede rin due to the size of their hands eh hindi maganda ang ball control nila from the FT Line. iba rin naman kasi ang effort when passing the ball or throwing the ball. pag FT attempt kasi for a big man eh mas mataas ang accuracy na kailangan and kailangan smooth ang bitaw.
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“That’s also a big concern of mine,” said Tanquingcen, referring to Vroman’s poor free throw shooting. “When he came in, he wasn’t shooting that bad. In China, he was a 65% shooter and he’s shooting not as bad right now. I think it’s more mental. It’s hard to survive a game with him missing those free throws. He’s working on it naman sa ensayo, kasama si (assistant) coach Allan (Caidic) and he was making those shots consistently. It’s hard to explain, why he shoots that bad now, it’s a mystery for us.
IMO, malaking factor din sa shooting yung mask, syempre kahit sino naman na di sanay na may nakalagay sa mukha nya kahit na ba clear or transparent e maski papano nakakabawas din ng clear view of the goal, except Rip Hamilton dahil years na syang naglalaro na may mask kaya sanay na sanay na yun, mas magmimintis pa nga yun sa shooting nya pag walang mask :) yung kahinaan nya pwedeng pwede nyang gamitin as asset, he knows na everytime na nasa kanya yung bola sa post, alam na alam nya dapat na fa-foulin lang sya ng bantay nya, so yung team mates nya like what Hatfield did last night, cut lang ng cut & go for the strong layup, kahit nandun si Peek, hindi sya makakasabay sa laro dahil ang bilis ng phasing ng laro kagabi, si Dilinger nga lawit dila na e kakatakbo, sya pa kaya :D
Possible din na may fatigue factor din, kasi yung consecutive na kapos freethrows, pagod na yun pag ganun or dehydrated na sya dahil mahina na yung muscles nya, pedialyte pa nga yung iniinom nya to rehydrate his body...malamang di pa nakakapag adjust si Vroman sa climate dito sa 'Pinas...
On the other hand, bumawi naman si Vroman on the other aspects of the game, like those great passes from him to Hatfield, he also blocked castro's fast break layup before mag o.t., he even saved the ball after Fonacier looses it again off castro's layup...as long as masipag at mautak syang maglaro, hindi sya siguro bibitawan ng Ginebra mgmt...
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Hindi lang naman dahil may isa kang weakness eh dapat bitawan ka na agad ng team.
Malaki din naman contribution ni Vroman in terms of scoring, defense, assist and rebounds.
Dapat try to maximize what you have hindi yung palit agad nasa isip especially nasa critical stage kana nang tournament...
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bakit kadalasan pag matangkad bano sa free throw? ;D
di naman palagi sir anya,
yung malalaking tao mas malalaki ang palad pero mas malaki din ang braso kaya mas powerful, nawawala yung spin when shooting the ball and nag rely sa power ng buong hand instead ng pulso lang pero theres nothing na di makukuha sa training, ang daming malalaki na magaling sa freethrow
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di naman palagi sir anya,
yung malalaking tao mas malalaki ang palad pero mas malaki din ang braso kaya mas powerful, nawawala yung spin when shooting the ball and nag rely sa power ng buong hand instead ng pulso lang pero theres nothing na di makukuha sa training, ang daming malalaki na magaling sa freethrow
kadalasan kasi napapansin ko ung mga center mahina sa free throw especially sa nba
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o sya tingnan na lang natin kung tamang desisyon na kinuha si vroman, pag pumasok sila sa semis moreso sa finals, it was a good decision, pag hindi, sablay ang coach at mga locals nila. ;D ;D ;D ;D
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kadalasan kasi napapansin ko ung mga center mahina sa free throw especially sa nba
lalo na si shaq wag mo panoorin mag FT yun sakit sa mata hehehehe pero si tim duncan, yao ming, ilgauskus parang lagi namang shoot pag nakikita ko mag freethrow,
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di naman palagi sir anya,
yung malalaking tao mas malalaki ang palad pero mas malaki din ang braso kaya mas powerful, nawawala yung spin when shooting the ball and nag rely sa power ng buong hand instead ng pulso lang pero theres nothing na di makukuha sa training, ang daming malalaki na magaling sa freethrow
I second the motion your honor ;)
Di lang naman po yung malalaking tao lang ang mahina sa FTs, may mga point guards din po na kaygaling sa midrange to 3pt shots pero nanginginig pag dating naman sa FTs, example. remember Olsen Racela sa seagames? 4 FTs nga ba yun namintis nya? even James Yap, kung kelan crucial saka nagmimintis sa FTs. Pero hinding hindi ko makakalimutan si Allan Caidic noon, Most consecutive 76 free throw shots made :o, grabe ang focus at ang tindi talaga ng shooting nya,bihirang-bihirang mag ka off-night si triggerman, kinakakatakutan nga sya noon sa buong asia dahil sa napakataas na shooting percentage nya! wala na ata tayong pure shooters ngayon, masyado nang nagconcentrate sa crossover moves, fade aways, dunk, etc. :P
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I second the motion your honor ;)
Di lang naman po yung malalaking tao lang ang mahina sa FTs, may mga point guards din po na kaygaling sa midrange to 3pt shots pero nanginginig pag dating naman sa FTs, example. remember Olsen Racela sa seagames? 4 FTs nga ba yun namintis nya? even James Yap, kung kelan crucial saka nagmimintis sa FTs. Pero hinding hindi ko makakalimutan si Allan Caidic noon, Most consecutive 76 free throw shots made :o, grabe ang focus at ang tindi talaga ng shooting nya,bihirang-bihirang mag ka off-night si triggerman, kinakakatakutan nga sya noon sa buong asia dahil sa napakataas na shooting percentage nya! wala na ata tayong pure shooters ngayon, masyado nang nagconcentrate sa crossover moves, fade aways, dunk, etc. :P
akala ko si joey loyzaga ang may record ng consecutive freethrows or alvin patrimonio? pero si alvin ang may record ng longest consecutive games played right?
sa PG, the best I have seen sa FT si Distrito and Racela o baka naman tuwing mapanood ko lang magaling, parang 90 percent and above yata ang percentage.
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akala ko si joey loyzaga ang may record ng consecutive freethrows or alvin patrimonio? pero si alvin ang may record ng longest consecutive games played right?
sa PG, the best I have seen sa FT si Distrito and Racela o baka naman tuwing mapanood ko lang magaling, parang 90 percent and above yata ang percentage.
Most consecutive FTs made:
allan caidic - 76
bogs adornado - 69
joey loyzaga - 50
tama si Distrito nga brader ang one of the best, pero pinakamataas si Ricky Brown @ 87+% for his entire career
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Andito ata karamihan ng records sa PBA...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Basketball_Association_records (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Basketball_Association_records)
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LOL most rebounds 45 si hackett ;D
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Ricardo Brown was one accurate FT shooter ..... his shooting stroke wasn't flawless, but it was consistent every game.
For clutch FT shooting, I'd go for Brown, Patrimonio & Adornado.
Sadly, most of the PBA records will likely remain as is ....... the nature of the game right now doesn't promote great individual stats e.g. zone defenses, dearth of pure shooters and traditional bigs, PBA's lack of team parity, etc.
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LOL most rebounds 45 si hackett ;D
eto yung patama sya ng patama sa board bago nya i shoot
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Ricardo Brown was one accurate FT shooter ..... his shooting stroke wasn't flawless, but it was consistent every game.
For clutch FT shooting, I'd go for Brown, Patrimonio & Adornado.
Sadly, most of the PBA records will likely remain as is ....... the nature of the game right now doesn't promote great individual stats e.g. zone defenses, dearth of pure shooters and traditional bigs, PBA's lack of team parity, etc.
the quick brown fox ;D
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Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina & Nolie "Loverboy" Eala strikes again ..... latest approved trade: BARAKO BULL's Chico Lanete for PETRON's Marc Agustin.
Not that a big trade (relative to numerous lopsided SMC deals with Bert Lina) ..... but it still reeks of player selling just the same.
Chico Lanete is a veteran scoring PG ..... is a solid backup, yet ends his stint with BARAKO BULL after just a single conference.
Marc Agustin ..... he's kinda tough, but the only reason he's in the PBA, is his dad Ato Agustin ..... heck, the rookie didn't even play much while he was in Adamson.
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and Chico Lanete may be packaged for a future trade ng petron should they try to engineer another trade =) at least may added asset na pwede trade without giving the other top players.
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bakit pinapayagan ang ganito, nakakainis na
anong klaseng trade yan eh there was a point in time ang lakas mag laro ni lanete and up to now given a good break, he can still strut it out, yung marc agustin ni hindi ko naririnig sa basketball world kahit sa uaap
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^ Exactly, Marc Agustin couldn't even play in ADAMSON ..... all of a sudden, he's now a fair tradeable asset for a veteran like Chico Lanete?
"Garapalan" brought to you by Eala, Lina & Salud.
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^ Exactly, Marc Agustin couldn't even play in ADAMSON ..... all of a sudden, he's now a fair tradeable asset for a veteran like Chico Lanete?
"Garapalan" brought to you by Eala, Lina & Salud.
i hope one day poeple will wake up and put an end to this.
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i hope one day poeple will wake up and put an end to this.
I hope so too, for the sake of the game (and not any team in particular) .... however, it doesn't look well:
** SMC & MVP now controls most key businesses in the country. As an offshoot, they will ensure ultra-loaded lineups with their PBA teams ..... win at all costs, ethics be damned.
** SMC, MVP & their pimp (Lina group) make up 70% of the PBA ..... add the impending (it's most likely sold already) sale of POWERADE back to SMC and that's 80% of the PBA ..... this is what you call bloc majority. (see PHOENIX's doomed PBA application).
** PBA Commish Chito Salud says all the right things ..... but he's all bark, no bite.
It's extremely obvious that the Lina group is in the business of selling players, just as it's obvious that both SMC & MVP are in a buying spree .... yet, Salud does nothing at all ..... what Chito Salud does, is just regulating the greed.
** ALASKA has long battled with the PBA & SMC about the blatant violations ..... yet they've received little support, since majority of fans nowadays are player fans (read: fantards) rather than true followers of the sport.
For the sake of the sport, let's just hope that Mr. Uytengsu keeps his PBA team and keep fighting for what's right.
"Our mission remains the same: Win with honor!" - Wilfred Uytengsu
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I hope so too, for the sake of the game (and not any team in particular) .... however, it doesn't look well:
** SMC & MVP now controls most key businesses in the country. As an offshoot, they will ensure ultra-loaded lineups with their PBA teams ..... win at all costs, ethics be damned.
** SMC, MVP & their pimp (Lina group) make up 70% of the PBA ..... add the impending (it's most likely sold already) sale of POWERADE back to SMC and that's 80% of the PBA ..... this is what you call bloc majority. (see PHOENIX's doomed PBA application).
** PBA Commish Chito Salud says all the right things ..... but he's all bark, no bite.
It's extremely obvious that the Lina group is in the business of selling players, just as it's obvious that both SMC & MVP are in a buying spree .... yet, Salud does nothing at all ..... what Chito Salud does, is just regulating the greed.
** ALASKA has long battled with the PBA & SMC about the blatant violations ..... yet they've received little support, since majority of fans nowadays are player fans (read: fantards) rather than true followers of the sport.
For the sake of the sport, let's just hope that Mr. Uytengsu keeps his PBA team and keep fighting for what's right.
"Our mission remains the same: Win with honor!" - Wilfred Uytengsu
with his wealth and vast experience in the sport, im sure uytengsu can also do an MVP and Eala but i give my hats off to him for sticking to professionalism and sheer love of the game.he has not engaged in lopsided trades and just continue to have alaska play the way a professional team should play.
yung ibang team outside of SMC and MVP group nag papatangay na lang sa agos
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bakit pinapayagan ang ganito, nakakainis na
anong klaseng trade yan eh there was a point in time ang lakas mag laro ni lanete and up to now given a good break, he can still strut it out, yung marc agustin ni hindi ko naririnig sa basketball world kahit sa uaap
tama brader, bago pa mapunta si lanete sa barako bull e maganda ang nilalaro nyan sa meralco, actually madalas pa ngang goto guy sya in the dying seconds ng game, may clutch shooting din kasi at syempre experienced player na din yan e, masyado namang lopsided yung agustin-lanete trade, di ba pwedeng magrefuse yung player ng trade? kasi kung ako si Lanete, parang masasabi kong> "sino si Agustin? sya lang ipapalit nyo sakin? mag-isip-isip naman kayo kung may isip pa kayo!!! pwede pa siguro kung Lanete-Tugade
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suko na ba ang petron sa gusto nila na lassiter deal? or preparing a new trade offer kaya sila with more assets?
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Noli "Loverboy" Eala will do anything to get Lassiter.
PETRON & POWERADE (management) were caught with their pants down during their 1st attempt to transfer Lassiter ..... aided of course by the revelation of a signed document, by no less than COKE CEO William Schultz himself.
They'll just let the flames die down ..... most likely the sale will be announced during the next offseason.
What Eala wants he usually gets ..... the past conference alone, he got bluechip rookies Chris Lutz, Marc Barroca, Dylan Ababou & Allein Maliksi ..... all courtesy of Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina of course ..... all with the blessing of PETRON Director este PBA Commissioner Chito Salud.
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Director pa rin ba ng Petron si Comm. Salud?
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^ Most likely, at some inactive role until such time that he's no longer associated with the PBA.
Chito Salud's very close ties with PETRON (he was handpicked by Danding after all) was the very reason that he was unable to get unanimously voted as PBA Commissioner during his first candidacy for the job.
His rival then, Lamberto Ramos wasn't voted also, since he had past ties with ALASKA.
To settle the impasse ..... Sonny Barrios was appointed PBA Commissioner instead.
However, once AIR21's Lito Alvarez (the same disgraced Customs commissioner who lost 2000 container vans) became PBA Chairman, the SOB instituted changes which turned the tide in favor of the SMC bloc e.g. giving board voting rights to PUREFOODS.
Not long after, Chito Salud had realized Danding's dream, by becoming the new PBA Commissioner.
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which leads me to ask, who do you think is the best commissioner who handled the PBA and why?
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which leads me to ask, who do you think is the best commissioner who handled the PBA and why?
I can name three ...... Leo Prieto, Mariano Yenko & Rudy Salud.
The PBA has their golden years during the tenure of these three fellows ..... I recall instances wherein star players (e.g. Adornado) were to transfer to a contending team - their transfers/trades were disallowed by the Commissioners office, citing league parity ...... the exact polar opposite to what's happening now right?
It all went downhill when Jun Bernardino became PBA Commish ...... god bless his soul, but the man was a known Danding lackey, who caved in to every whim of SMC ..... even allowing a 4th team for SMC (COKE).
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I can name three ...... Leo Prieto, Mariano Yenko & Rudy Salud.
The PBA has their golden years during the tenure of these three fellows ..... I recall instances wherein star players (e.g. Adornado) were to transfer to a contending team - their transfers/trades were disallowed by the Commissioners office, citing league parity ...... the exact polar opposite to what's happening now right?
It all went downhill when Jun Bernardino became PBA Commish ...... god bless his soul, but the man was a known Danding lackey, who caved in to every whim of SMC ..... even allowing a 4th team for SMC (COKE).
rudy salud is the father of chito salud?
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rudy salud is the father of chito salud?
Yup .... and he has been rolling in his grave, since his son became PBA Commissioner.
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In other news, BARAKO BULL just won over PETRON ...... Mick Pennisi just pulled off one of the greatest flops you'll ever see in a professional basketball game.
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Yup .... and he has been rolling in his grave, since his son became PBA Commissioner.
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In other news, BARAKO BULL just won over PETRON ...... Mick Pennisi just pulled off one of the greatest flops you'll ever see in a professional basketball game.
http://youtu.be/ZuOG09PGYFc (http://youtu.be/ZuOG09PGYFc)
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Yup .... and he has been rolling in his grave, since his son became PBA Commissioner.
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In other news, BARAKO BULL just won over PETRON ...... Mick Pennisi just pulled off one of the greatest flops you'll ever see in a professional basketball game.
what happened?
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^there's a link before your post.. ;D
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Mick Pennisi just gave the words "delayed reaction" a whole new level of meaning. ;D
What's even funnier were the reactions ..... the crowd, the commentators and the entire BARAKO BULL bench ..... heck, even Pennisi himself was laughing at the stunt he pulled.
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Seriously, thowing the ball (above the shoulder) at another player or official always results in a one-game suspension ..... we'll see if Commisioner Cheato Salud will suspend the new PETRON import.
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^there's a link before your post.. ;D
yeah but cant open
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^ Try this one ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuOG09PGYFc
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tagal ko ng di sinusubaybayan itong PBA.musta na ba ginebra? (yun pa nga ba pangalan nila? ;D )
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^ Try this one ..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuOG09PGYFc
ang blis naman ng dating ng bola di tuloy nakapag react ng maayos si mick hahahahahahahaha
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confirmed ba na suspended yung import ng petron? if yes, malas naman ng petron at kakarating pa lang nun tapos crucial stretch pa sa elimination round =)
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confirmed ba na suspended yung import ng petron? if yes, malas naman ng petron at kakarating pa lang nun tapos crucial stretch pa sa elimination round =)
Fined lang, not suspended.. kinda saw that decision coming right after he was ejected.. it's Petron.. not going to matter, though, I think.. Petron's still going to be eliminated.. their fate isn't in their hands anymore and they play TnT on their last game pa.. karma's a bitch.. ;D
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Fined lang, not suspended.. kinda saw that decision coming right after he was ejected.. it's Petron.. not going to matter, though, I think.. Petron's still going to be eliminated.. their fate isn't in their hands anymore and they play TnT on their last game pa.. karma's a bitch.. ;D
^ Yet one more solid proof that PETRON Director este PBA Commissioner Cheato Salud is heavily biased.
A few seasons ago, Gabe Norwood threw the ball at the body of Omolon - yet he was suspended due to the FF2 ..... a year ago, ALASKA import L.D. Williams was poked in the eyes (no foul called) and blindly swayed his arm - hitting an opponent in the neck - he was suspended due to the FF2.
Just last conference, dangerous above-the-shoulder fouls by Arwind Santos & Cabagnot, yet no suspensions.
Now, PETRON's import threw the ball at an opponent with obvious intent to retaliate and hurt ...... never mind that Penissi was roughing up the the import .... the hit was intentional and above-the-shoulders.
We Pinoy's have a saying "ang mapikon ay talo" ........ we'll apparently not in Cheato Salud's world.
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sayang. sana sinusunod yung policy na FF2 merits a 1 game suspension on the next game para fair sa lahat...
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Fined lang, not suspended.. kinda saw that decision coming right after he was ejected.. it's Petron.. not going to matter, though, I think.. Petron's still going to be eliminated.. their fate isn't in their hands anymore and they play TnT on their last game pa.. karma's a bitch.. ;D
yeah karma's digital ang bilis hehehehe
sa ganitong pang yayari nababalanse kahit paano ang sitwasyon, akala ng petron makukuha lahat ng bagay sa takaw, kinamal na lahat ng magagaling pero ano ang nangyayari
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^ Yet one more solid proof that PETRON Director este PBA Commissioner Cheato Salud is heavily biased.
A few seasons ago, Gabe Norwood threw the ball at the body of Omolon - yet he was suspended due to the FF2 ..... a year ago, ALASKA import L.D. Williams was poked in the eyes (no foul called) and blindly swayed his arm - hitting an opponent in the neck - he was suspended due to the FF2.
Just last conference, dangerous above-the-shoulder fouls by Arwind Santos & Cabagnot, yet no suspensions.
Now, PETRON's import threw the ball at an opponent with obvious intent to retaliate and hurt ...... never mind that Penissi was roughing up the the import .... the hit was intentional and above-the-shoulders.
We Pinoy's have a saying "ang mapikon ay talo" ........ we'll apparently not in Cheato Salud's world.
grabeng patakaran ito, sana dumating ang panahon na gumawa ng mabigat na aksyon ang ibang team sa nangyayari para matauhan naman ang PBA, yung pag balibag ng bola kay mick harapan at bigay ang lakas, kung nagkataon na sa ilong tumama, malamang basag ang ilong, alam naman ng lahat na ganyan mag laro si mick at bilang import dapat handa sya sa ganun, im not saying i tolerate what mick did but being an import and ang laki pa nya, im sure he can take a beating eh di sana binarako na lang din nya si mick but well kung ganun namang fine lang pala eh di kayang kaya naman nyang mag fine laki ng bayad sigurado sa kanya
ano ba ang nangyayari sa pba tsk tsk tsk
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^ Yet one more solid proof that PETRON Director este PBA Commissioner Cheato Salud is heavily biased.
A few seasons ago, Gabe Norwood threw the ball at the body of Omolon - yet he was suspended due to the FF2 ..... a year ago, ALASKA import L.D. Williams was poked in the eyes (no foul called) and blindly swayed his arm - hitting an opponent in the neck - he was suspended due to the FF2.
Just last conference, dangerous above-the-shoulder fouls by Arwind Santos & Cabagnot, yet no suspensions.
Now, PETRON's import threw the ball at an opponent with obvious intent to retaliate and hurt ...... never mind that Penissi was roughing up the the import .... the hit was intentional and above-the-shoulders.
We Pinoy's have a saying "ang mapikon ay talo" ........ we'll apparently not in Cheato Salud's world.
talagang pabor lage sa SMC tsk tsk tsk
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(http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/955/petronboard.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/263/petronboard.jpg/)
PBA Commissioner Cheato Salud ....... "Kampihan Na!"
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nakakarma na ang petron sa balakin nilang trade ke lassiter.
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Fined lang, not suspended.. kinda saw that decision coming right after he was ejected.. it's Petron.. not going to matter, though, I think.. Petron's still going to be eliminated.. their fate isn't in their hands anymore and they play TnT on their last game pa.. karma's a bitch.. ;D
Petron eliminated? do you think that scenario paves way to the entry of Lassiter to the team soon?
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Petron eliminated? do you think that scenario paves way to the entry of Lassiter to the team soon?
Petron has a high chance of getting eliminated even if they win vs TnT.. and Lassiter will end up with SMC sooner or later..
Gary David is really a volume shooter.. parang si Kobe.. he's getting a lot of points kasi ang dami niyang tinitira.. he got 40pts kanina vs Alaska but he was just 12/33 from the field tapos 4/17 from 3pts.. not even Kobe shoots 17 times from the 3.. crucial game pa naman yun kanina.. laki ng lamang ng Powerade tapos hinabol ng Alaska with a 16-0 run to force OT.. sure quarters na sana sila.. ngayon, delikado pa sila ma-eliminate..
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after magyabang ni gary david (naglilyab daw kamay niya), nag 16-0 ang alaska to tie the game and force overtime. akala ni david kasi mataas na score niya e mainit na siya, yun pala nadaan sa volume ng tira!!! :-[
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after magyabang ni gary david (naglilyab daw kamay niya), nag 16-0 ang alaska to tie the game and force overtime. akala ni david kasi mataas na score niya e mainit na siya, yun pala nadaan sa volume ng tira!!! :-[
great game by Alaska.. 16-0 run.. Bon bon is an underrated player..
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great game by Alaska.. 16-0 run.. Bon bon is an underrated player..
medyo may pagkabuwaya kasi
nice panalo BMEG Ko hihihihi
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the final elimination round games on wednesday will be interesting. a win/loss by the four teams will have a bearing on the team standings, particularly on the composition of the quarters and semis. well....unless talk and text does it again with petron.....
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So Petron, Rain or Shine and Air21 are already eliminated.. B-Meg and TnT are assured of at least a playoff for the outright semis slot.. Alaska is thru to the quarters..
Wednesday games will determine playoffs and seeds..
Ginebra win + Petron win = Barako to quarters, B-Meg to semis, Gin-Tnt for 2nd semis, Powerade-Meralco for last quarters slot
Ginebra win + Petron loss = Barako to quarters, TnT to semis, Gin-BMeg for 2nd semis, Pow-Mer for last quarters slot
Ginebra loss + Petron win = Powerade to quarters, BMeg & TnT to semis, Barako-Meralco for last quarters slot
Ginebra loss + Petron loss = Powerade to quarters, BMeg & TnT to semis, Barako-Meralco for last quarters slot
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTIGY4o60A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTIGY4o60A)
damn hot!!!! never mind Asi.....or the results of the game.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTIGY4o60A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTIGY4o60A)
damn hot!!!! never mind Asi.....or the results of the game.
ngawwwrrrrrrrrrr grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Schwing ..... not even the added weight diminishes the hotness of Lia Cruz.
By the way, great pair of knockout matches tomorrow ..... MERALCO-POWERADE for the right to enter the QF and BMEG-BGK for the right to a semis slot, alongside TnT.
MERALCO looks like it's peaking, albeit somewhat late ..... I'd give them the slight advantage over POWERADE. Gary David needs to enter his burning-hands zone (again) for them to have a shot at winning tomorrow ...... David basically can make & unmake POWERADE with his no-conscience volume shooting.
BMEG-BGK ..... game should be close for these 2 loaded teams. James Yap has been playing horrible for most of the season. If he finally breaks out tomorrow, it'll likely tow BMEG to the semis.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTIGY4o60A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmTIGY4o60A)
damn hot!!!! never mind Asi.....or the results of the game.
Hot nga brader! parang iniexpose talaga nya yung legs nya :D parang gusto nang titigan ni Asi kaso nagpipigil pa :D
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Hot nga brader! parang iniexpose talaga nya yung legs nya :D parang gusto nang titigan ni Asi kaso nagpipigil pa :D
I watched the other interview with LA Tenorio and the cross leg was really tight and low, wala kang makikita
how come sa interview with Asi parang iba yung pag ka cross leg
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I watched the other interview with LA Tenorio and the cross leg was really tight and low, wala kang makikita
how come sa interview with Asi parang iba yung pag ka cross leg
Naka shorts pala bro. Parang may nag reklamo yata eh >:( Eto yung tweet nya nakuha ko from another site:
Lia Cruz
@teeceegweys @aktvonibc13 hi there! Those were actually shorts & we didn't realize they were that short once I was seated. Sorry about that.
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Go MERALCO!!!
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Naka shorts pala bro. Parang may nag reklamo yata eh >:(
bakit kaya nag-reklamo? >:( >:( nabitin siguro. ;D
wag naman sanang sa susunod na episode ng homecourt eh naka-pantalon, long-sleeves at tartolnek na sa lia. ;D
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Baka nag-reklamo ang mga madre sa dating High School ni Lia ...... ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4GON-_Gfg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z4GON-_Gfg)
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Great game Gin Kings!!! ;D
Very good defense sa 4th quarter ;)
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^^ indeed!
KG was hot. in the game, i mean. ;D wala nang mas hot pa kay Lia! ;D
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looks like there's bad news for Ginebra.. Mark Caguioa seems to have suffered more than just a cut near his eye.. baka may broken bone daw and a possible operation might be needed.. I hope it doesn't come to that.. may blurred and double vision daw.. it's sad when these things happen.. it's a contact sport but a serious injury is something you don't want anyone to have.. he's been playing great pa naman this season..
on another note, B-Meg is on the verge na naman of getting upset.. and Barako just got Gabe Freeman as import to bolster their bid for a semis seat.. exciting games tomorrow..
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semis time!!!
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semis time!!!
sino ba pumasok?
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TnT vs. BARAKO (Barako leads 1-0)
BGK vs. BMEG (game 1 later)
Best of 5 semis ..... winners go to the Finals.
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di ba best of 7 sir?
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Semis is Best-of-5 only ...... the Finals are Best-of-7.
Game 1 last night between TnT & BARAKO ..... I've seen far bigger crowds in inter-baranagay leagues. TnT does have very little fanbase, aside from their employee hakots of course.
Meanwhile, Mark Caguioa looks out for the semis or at least the first few games ..... Caguioa has been struggling the past few games (his usual poor shot selection & surprisingly, turnovers), but a resurgent Cortez has stepped-up to lead BGK to it's recent wins.
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Semis is Best-of-5 only ...... the Finals are Best-of-7.
Game 1 last night between TnT & BARAKO ..... I've seen far bigger crowds in inter-baranagay leagues. TnT does have very little fanbase, aside from their employee hakots of course.
Meanwhile, Mark Caguioa looks out for the semis or at least the first few games ..... Caguioa has been struggling the past few games (his usual poor shot selection & surprisingly, turnovers), but a resurgent Cortez has stepped-up to lead BGK to it's recent wins.
Pansin ko nga din, hindi napuno ng barako vs tnt yung ynares gym kagabi...
Brader Allain, sana magstepup mga players natin uli gaya ni KG Canaleta, wala na tayong mc47 for the rest of the conference, may eye socket injury si caguioa,pag pinilit pa nyang maglaro, possible na mabulag sya
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Pansin ko nga din, hindi napuno ng barako vs tnt yung ynares gym kagabi...
Brader Allain, sana magstepup mga players natin uli gaya ni KG Canaleta, wala na tayong mc47 for the rest of the conference, may eye socket injury si caguioa,pag pinilit pa nyang maglaro, possible na mabulag sya
for sure, puno ang venue mamaya.
madami namang pwedeng humalili kay MC47 eh. but one player is not enough to fill the void left by him. cortez, kg, and dylan, i think, can ably fill in. Labagala and J. Wilson can also provide quality minutes. and if reports are true, JJ will be back.
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Mga brader anong oras ang laro mamaya?
Bad trip yung PBA website sobrang hindi updated >:(
Edited....
Ayun 6:45PM pla :D
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Mga brader anong oras ang laro mamaya?
Bad trip yung PBA website sobrang hindi updated >:(
Edited....
Ayun 6:45PM pla :D
sa bgk website naman 6:30pm, hmmm 6:30p palang tunein na ko baka mamiss ko yung 1st minutes ng 1st quarter :D
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sa bgk website naman 6:30pm, hmmm 6:30p palang tunein na ko baka mamiss ko yung 1st minutes ng 1st quarter :D
6:30 yung AKTV Center chit-chat.. the game starts around 6:45 or after like kagabi..
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for sure, puno ang venue mamaya.
madami namang pwedeng humalili kay MC47 eh. but one player is not enough to fill the void left by him. cortez, kg, and dylan, i think, can ably fill in. Labagala and J. Wilson can also provide quality minutes. and if reports are true, JJ will be back.
sinong JJ Jair Jordan?
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Patrimonio, Caidic, Seigle, Cardona headline Greats vs Stalwarts All-Star clash (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/patrimonio-caidic-seigle-cardona-headline-greats-vs-stalwarts-all-star-clash)
Now this is something I would love to see.. Alvin Patrimonio, Hector Calma, Ato Agustin, Jolas, Olsen, Danny Seigle and Danny Ildefonso in one team.. those are my favorite players growing up.. late 80s to early 90s tapos late 90s to early 2000..
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Lost in the hoopla of the semis ...... the PBA All-Star cast (Veterans vs. RSJ) had been recently revealed.
Veterans: Starters - James Yap, Marc Pingris, JC Intal, Mark Caguioa & Arwind Santos
Reserves - Kelly Williams, Gabe Norwood, Alex Cabagnot, Gary David, LA Tenorio & Sonny Thoss
RSJ: Starters - JV Casio, Marcio Lassiter, Chris Lutz, Josh Urbiztondo & Dylan Ababou
Reserves - Japeth Aguilar, Mac Baracael, Mark Barroca, Al-Hussaini, Chris Ross & Rico Maierhofer
** WTF are JC Intal & Gabe Norwood doing in the All-Star veterans cast ??
JC Intal has been mostly a disappointment in the PBA, relative to all the media hype ..... his only claim to fame was a single good semis performance (infamous TnT walkout) and being Bianca Gonzales' beau ..... of course, being a member of a popular BMEG helps also.
Gabe Norwood really ?? ...... I can name 10 players from Rain or Shine who has been playing much better than Norwood .... for a long time now.
** I'm very sure that veterans coach Chot Reyes, has an ulterior motive when he didn't choose Jason Castro as a reserve.
Just cant see any scenario in hell, that JC Intal or Gabe Norwood deserves an All-Star slot over guys like Jason Castro, Mac Cardona, Cyrus Baguio, PJ Simon, Ranidel de Ocampo or Mike Cortez.
** For the RSJ ..... guys like Jervy Cruz, Sean Anthony, Ronnie Matias & RJ Jazul are more deserving than most of the reserve cast.
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** WTF are JC Intal & Gabe Norwood doing in the All-Star veterans cast ??
JC Intal has been mostly a disappointment in the PBA, relative to all the media hype ..... his only claim to fame was a single good semis performance
Gabe Norwood really ?? ...... I can name 10 players from Rain or Shine who has been playing much better than Norwood .... for a long time now.
Just cant see any scenario in hell, that JC Intal or Gabe Norwood deserves an All-Star slot over guys like Jason Castro, Mac Cardona, Cyrus Baguio, PJ Simon, Ranidel de Ocampo or Mike Cortez.
** For the RSJ ..... guys like Jervy Cruz, Sean Anthony, Ronnie Matias & RJ Jazul are more deserving than most of the reserve cast.
JC Intal - you said it yourself --- media hype. good thing for him, the hype lasted this long. he is very inconsistent.
Gabe Norwood - i agree, sir. i would prefer ryan arana over him. just like JC, media hype may have carried him.
one has to wonder why not all of the big time players are in the all-stars. as far as the RSJ team is concerned, i agree with you that there are more desrving players who should have been included.
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on the semis - what a lousy game by BGK last night. could they be feeling the effect of the loss of MC47? or was it the defense of BMEG? or both?
there are reports that the spark will be out for three months.
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on the semis - what a lousy game by BGK last night. could they be feeling the effect of the loss of MC47? or was it the defense of BMEG? or both?
there are reports that the spark will be out for three months.
Mark Caguioa has one big flaw, the tendency for poor shot selection (quick shots, long shots, etc) ..... however, you'll still want to have a Caguioa in that lineup.
Only a few guys in the league, can regularly create their own shots and make them (regardless of FG%) ...... Caguioa is one of them ..... he'll create his own shots and will always try to win for his team.
BGK looked a bit slow last night ..... same as TnT on their 1st game with BARAKO. It's always hard to stay sharp, for teams waiting more than a week for a semis opponent.
BGK will need a lot of scoring from anyone, to have a shot at beating BMEG ..... it will also help if Vroman can keep his emotions in check (again).
Doesn't look good for Vroman, if a known softie like Yancy de Ocampo can make him lose his cool ..... looking forward to a better effort from BGK in game 2.
OT: Look at what PBA Comm. Cheato Salud has done - as a result of his bad precedent, by not suspending PETRON's import ...... now, players blatantly hacking other players on the head (Cardona's recent chop to Bowles & Vroman's chop to Yancy last night) ..... it's as if the refs are forced to only call them as FF1 instead of the obvious FF2 ..... FF1 basically exonerates Cheato Salud from making a decision to suspend or not.
Like I said, the late great PBA Commisioner Rudy Salud is rolling in his grave.
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hopefully BGK bounces back for game 2. vroman needs to keep his cool. H-bomb needs to get his rebounds and hussle points. Cortez needs to outplay the opposing guards. the bigmen of bgk needs to hold their ground in the shaded lane. and lastly, they should play a very coordinated game. basta they need to stay focused on the game. 1 game at a time lang =)
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way to go barako bulls!!! i was thinking that their game 1 victory was a fluke either because TnT came from a long break or because TnT deliberately lost that game so that barako would not be swept by them (because they believe that they are the strongest team). the game 2 victory reinforced my thinking. but...game 3 came and barako is now a game away from a finals appearance. they even led by 21 points! i just hope barako could sustain their run and beat TnT in game 4.
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the entry of Freeman and the resurgence of Danny Seigle are the biggest factors for the impressive performance of Barako.. Freeman is a beast.. Boundless energy and never-ending hustle.. nakakahawa siya.. and Seigle gives Barako instant production from the bench.. he's the leading local scorer for Barako in the playoffs.. 16.8ppg in just 25mins of action.. he's not as explosive as before but he still gets the job done.. he makes Barako a deep team..
I've been reading a lot of comments from TnT fans saying that Barako players are hurting the TnT players.. Is Barako playing dirty or is TnT just soft?
By the way, there are rumors that Joel Banal has been fired by Alaska.. Luigi Trillo is set to take over daw.. Luigi just resigned as coach of Cebuana Lhuillier in the D-League so it's probably true..
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Freeman is not a beast ...... he is THE beast.
His stint in the Canadian leagues seem to have improved his game even more ...... he's more confident taking those outside shots now - added to his regular game within the paint.
Still has his only weakness though - a tendency to poke and hack on defense, leading to early fouls.
TnT (led by PBA's father of whining Chot Reyes) is just whining at this point ..... aside from one obvious "pa-simple" elbow from Tubid to Williams face - everything else has been regular playoff basketball.
It's BARAKO's tough half-court defense (favored them over ALASKA because of this) & their 3-point shooting that has been giving TnT the fits ...... Penissi, Arboleda, Tubid, Freeman, etc has been shooting at a high-clip when it counts.
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Trillo does appear to finally take the helm at ALASKA ...... still remember his UAAP coaching stint, which was disaster at it's best.
For once, ALASKA should forego with the prim & proper choice ..... go for the small risk in Lastimosa (if he's interested).
Jolas brings the credibility & just might rub off some much-needed swagger to the players - something which ALASKA has normally lacked through the years.
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Freeman is not a beast ...... he is THE beast.
His stint in the Canadian leagues seem to have improved his game even more ...... he's more confident taking those outside shots now - added to his regular game within the paint.
Still has his only weakness though - a tendency to poke and hack on defense, leading to early fouls.
TnT (led by PBA's father of whining Chot Reyes) is just whining at this point ..... aside from one obvious "pa-simple" elbow from Tubid to Williams face - everything else has been regular playoff basketball.
It's BARAKO's tough half-court defense (favored them over ALASKA because of this) & their 3-point shooting that has been giving TnT the fits ...... Penissi, Arboleda, Tubid, Freeman, etc has been shooting at a high-clip when it counts.
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Trillo does appear to finally take the helm at ALASKA ...... still remember his UAAP coaching stint, which was disaster at it's best.
For once, ALASKA should forego with the prim & proper choice ..... go for the small risk in Lastimosa (if he's interested).
Jolas brings the credibility & just might rub off some much-needed swagger to the players - something which ALASKA has normally lacked through the years.
Iyakin!!!
pag sila ang nangangatawan, nangangalabaw, nanghahataw, nanghahawi, nanunulak at natawagan ng foul, kung mag-iinarte akala mo si pontio pilato kung maghugas ng kamayi.
pag sila ang kinatawan, kinalabaw, hinataw, hinawi, tinulak at di tinawagan ng foul ang kalaban kung mag-iinarte akala mo batang inagawan ng kendi.
numero uno ang coach sinusundan ni williams at nahahawa na si castro.
buti pa si ali peek, bihirang magreklamo, gaganti na lang! haha
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^ We'll I'll give Kelly Williams a pass on this one ..... he's not one to whine & his 13-stitch wound on his face was a result of an intentional forearm from Tubid (famous for giving well placed cheapshots).
However, Chot Reyes & everyone else on TnT is just whining now ..... likely their defense mechanism, since they're not used to being harassed & playing catch-up on the scoreboard.
BARAKO's first game (against ALASKA) this conference was a precursor of things ..... tough, half-court defense which will eat up most teams ..... Freeman's arrival further gave them another 2-way threat.
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^ We'll I'll give Kelly Williams a pass on this one ..... he's not one to whine & his 13-stitch wound on his face was a result of an intentional forearm from Tubid (famous for giving well placed cheapshots).
However, Chot Reyes & everyone else on TnT is just whining now ..... likely their defense mechanism, since they're not used to being harassed & playing catch-up on the scoreboard.
BARAKO's first game (against ALASKA) this conference was a precursor of things ..... tough, half-court defense which will eat up most teams ..... Freeman's arrival further gave them another 2-way threat.
These TnT players can dish it out as well as any PBA player and they can suck it in and play hurt as good as any professional player can. The problem is that they use these instances when they do get hurt, to raise their whining to the next level. They bewail that they get hurt due to the physicality of the other teams when they, in fact, play the same way. They also, almost always, exaggerate the extent of their injuries, and yet you see these supposedly badly injured players playing better than the non-injured players!
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These TnT players can dish it out as well as any PBA player and they can suck it in and play hurt as good as any professional player can. The problem is that they use these instances when they do get hurt, to raise their whining to the next level. They bewail that they get hurt due to the physicality of the other teams when they, in fact, play the same way. They also, almost always, exaggerate the extent of their injuries, and yet you see these supposedly badly injured players playing better than the non-injured players!
ika nga ni Jawo, "Sa basketball, kung ayaw mong masaktan, chess ang laruin mo!" :D :D :D
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we need to set-up a trauma unit in our team
this is a career-threatening series
were are bruised and bloodied
yan ang litanya ni chot reyes. anak ng!!!! at nung in-interview, mukhang maamong tupa.
tama ka dyan brader william...sabi nga ni jawo -- kung ayaw mo masaktan, mag-chess ka na lang!!!
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game 4 of the TnT-Barako series was very painful to the eye. the barako that played game 4 was the exact opposite of the barako that played game 3. winner-take-all tomorrow. i'm sure it will be VERY physical. expect pennissi to show very rugged plays, and tubid to level-up in his bluffs and trash talk.
game 4 of the B-Meg - BGK series will be played today. the locals will do it for Ginebra. Vroman? never mind him. 8 points in game 3....yet the Kings still won. at this stage, i would say that Alexander could have been the better choice. he may not be scoring that much but he has never gone down 20 rebounds per game (iirc).
B-Meg, on the other hand, seems to have all cylinders working. and with ping back for tonight's game, it would be a different ball game altogether. although i am hoping for the same result.
just a personla opinion --- i think ginebra should put kerby on ping. :P
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if I were Ginebra, ibabalik ko na lang si Kerby sa B-Meg.. kahit wala ng kapalit.. ;D
that Barako-TnT game last night was the result of the whining of TnT.. they whined so they got what they wanted.. Ryan Reyes did the same thing Pingris did to Canaleta.. Ping got a flagrant and ejection.. Reyes was just called for a regular foul.. and with that, we all know that the series is over.. no one will expect Barako to win tomorrow..
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if I were Ginebra, ibabalik ko na lang si Kerby sa B-Meg.. kahit wala ng kapalit.. ;D
;D ;D ;D
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With Kerby Raymundo, you take the good with the bad ...... he can score, but the ball will stay with his hands for most of the shotclock (plus those missed FT's & occasional errors in the clutch).
Tim Cone was all diplomatic when Raymundo left BMEG last conference ...... yet deep down, he'd prefer a triangle trainee in Yancy De Ocampo over him, any day of the week.
I'm hoping for a BGK win later, just to see a classic winner-take-all game 5.
Besides, I'd like to think that any team having Joe "Green Pastures" Devance will be cursed forever ... or at least, the next few conferences. ;D
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Chot Reyes' whining finally got the refs to call it tight on the BARAKO end ..... BARAKO didn't do themselves any favors with spotty zone defense & some poor shooting (Freeman's lowest PBA output).
TnT should win in game 5 ..... not unless BARAKO pulls out one more great performance.
The sight of TnT's starting frontline with bandages on their faces kinda reminds me of years ago - when PRESTO's starting five all played with busted & bandaged lips, courtesy of Jaworski and his boys. ;D
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BMEG had all the manpower advantages going to game 4 last night ..... they didn't need any help from the referees to beat BGK.
The ref's whistle was just too fast for BGK last night ..... every small bump was called a foul against them. That's two consecutive blowout games by the refs in the PBA semis.
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I have a feeling that we've seen the last of Jackson Vroman in the PBA.
There's no denying that he's one of the better skilled bigs to play here ..... however, he's just way volatile, moreso against the top teams who all play physical ball.
It's obvious that Vroman wants to win - but he complains & whines too much, then retaliates with careless fouls ..... he also has the worst FT% ever seen for a PBA import.
Tough luck for BGK last night.
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BMEG had all the manpower advantages going to game 4 last night ..... they didn't need any help from the referees to beat BGK.
The ref's whistle was just too fast for BGK last night ..... every small bump was called a foul against them. That's two consecutive blowout games by the refs in the PBA semis.
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I have a feeling that we've seen the last of Jackson Vroman in the PBA.
There's no denying that he's one of the better skilled bigs to play here ..... however, he's just way volatile, moreso against the top teams who all play physical ball.
It's obvious that Vroman wants to win - but he complains & whines too much, then retaliates with careless fouls ..... he also has the worst FT% ever seen for a PBA import.
Tough luck for BGK last night.
i still believe they should have stuck it out with Alexander
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bgk coaching staff erred in sticking with a small lineup kahit bugbog na sila sa ilalim/rebounds.
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i still believe they should have stuck it out with Alexander
Hehe. Same here .... been saying it since the day Alexander was sacked.
Still, Vroman seemed like a decent gamble, given his pedigree .... he was a known hothead in the international game - though I don't think anyone anticipated he'd be THAT unstable.
Kinda reminds me of Art Long years ago.
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In other news, ALASKA confirms that Joel Banal is out and Luigi "0-28" Trillo is in as interim head coach.
It's beginning to look like ALASKA will be leaving the PBA soon ..... moreso with the sale of majority control to a Dutch corporation.
It'll be a sad day, if the lone vanguard of truth & fairness in the PBA would finally leave.
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Sobrang panget ng officiating last night.
Halos magwrestling na tuloy mga players.
PBA really needs more training for the refs to properly control the game.
Nakakafrustrate majority sa mga calls especially sa mga players.
An example is yung foul called on Hatfield while guarding/evading Bowles after which Hatfield screamed the hell out on the ref's face... Pero hindi siya tinawagan ng technical dahil siguro alam ng ref na kabobohan yung tawag nyang foul on Hatfield.
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^ Like I said, I've just seen 2 consecutive blowout games done by REFS in the PBA.
The FT disparity last night was just mind-boggling.
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It's beginning to look like ALASKA will be leaving the PBA soon .....
i hope noli "f***ing lover boy" eala goes first.
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yes, the officiating really needs to improve. inconsistent kasi may mga physical plays na let-go ng mga refs and players get called naman for silly touch fouls.
for alaska, its a sad day. Joel Banal is doing a great job as head coach of alaska given the lineup that he has.
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at the post-game interview last night, sabi ni Tim Cone, "I'm excited to go up against Chot." ;D
di pa nga tapos yung TnT-Barako series.. ;D
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at the post-game interview last night, sabi ni Tim Cone, "I'm excited to go up against Chot." ;D
Let's see who can work the refs better, the master (Tim cone) or the evil protege (Chot Reyes) ;D
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Hehe. Same here .... been saying it since the day Alexander was sacked.
Still, Vroman seemed like a decent gamble, given his pedigree .... he was a known hothead in the international game - though I don't think anyone anticipated he'd be THAT unstable.
Kinda reminds me of Art Long years ago.
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In other news, ALASKA confirms that Joel Banal is out and Luigi "0-28" Trillo is in as interim head coach.
It's beginning to look like ALASKA will be leaving the PBA soon ..... moreso with the sale of majority control to a Dutch corporation.
It'll be a sad day, if the lone vanguard of truth & fairness in the PBA would finally leave.
sayang si jolas pala ang isa sa pinag pilian, sana kung si jolas, mag tyaga na ulit ako manood, Jolas is my basketball idol
bakit si luigi eh kahit nga sa amateur wala namang pinakitang maganda yan, mukhang patiklop na nga ang Alaska, sayang, tuluyan ng magiging SMC league and PBA, may manood pa kaya?
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yahoo.....panalo bmeg ko
sana manalo din ako TNT ko....
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syempre para kumita malamang TnT ang mananalo. sayang naman yung ibabayad ng mangilan-ngilan nilang fans na nanonood ng serye laban sa Barako Bull. pero mas nakapanghihinayang yung ibabayad ni MVP para sa mga ticket na ipamimigay sa mga empleyado ng mga kumpanya niya
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In other news, ALASKA confirms that Joel Banal is out and Luigi "0-28" Trillo is in as interim head coach.
It's beginning to look like ALASKA will be leaving the PBA soon ..... moreso with the sale of majority control to a Dutch corporation.
It'll be a sad day, if the lone vanguard of truth & fairness in the PBA would finally leave.
Does this mean Joel resigned and leaved the team for good or he stays and just demoted to assistant coach again and let Luigi take the driver's seat?
Luigi coached ADU for 6 or 7 years and wasnt able to prove anything as an amateur coach.
He was a total failure despite all the support thrown to him to bring back ADU to its glory days of Hector Calma and Coach Moises Urbiztondo.
I think Alaska should give Banal at least 2 years as head coach to prove himself.
Its a lot of pressure on him to maintain Alaska's winning tradition with Tim Cone but winning didnt come easy when Tim started with Alaska before he finally breaked the ice with the proper line up to make Alaska one of the elite teams in the PBA.
pwede naman nila gayahin un SMC style of hiring a coaching line up and shuffle them to coach para iba iba ang diskarte sa mga games.
Like BGK, another set back for coach SIOT so malamang CHUALAI (alfrancis) will take over as head coach next year.
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Does this mean Joel resigned and leaved the team for good or he stays and just demoted to assistant coach again and let Luigi take the driver's seat?
I think Alaska should give Banal at least 2 years as head coach to prove himself.
Its a lot of pressure on him to maintain Alaska's winning tradition with Tim Cone but winning didnt come easy when Tim started with Alaska before he finally breaked the ice with the proper line up to make Alaska one of the elite teams in the PBA.
pwede naman nila gayahin un SMC style of hiring a coaching line up and shuffle them to coach para iba iba ang diskarte sa mga games.
Like BGK, another set back for coach SIOT so malamang CHUALAI (alfrancis) will take over as head coach next year.
the official statement is that Banal resigned.. rumors say he was fired.. there has long been talk that a lot of Alaska players didn't like how Banal quickly took away the triangle system.. this led to some resentment.. ang hirap daw kasi pag-aralan ng triangle tapos biglang aalisin agad.. nahirapan mag-adjust yung players.. Banal was doing everything daw to make Alaska his team and not Tim Cone's anymore.. he really wanted to be out of Cone's shadow.. in their 1st win this conference nga, you can hear the frustration from Cyrus Baguio when he was interviewed as player of the game.. sabi niya sana daw tuloy-tuloy na yung paggamit ng maayos na system..
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Does this mean Joel resigned and leaved the team for good or he stays and just demoted to assistant coach again and let Luigi take the driver's seat?
I think Alaska should give Banal at least 2 years as head coach to prove himself.
Its a lot of pressure on him to maintain Alaska's winning tradition with Tim Cone but winning didnt come easy when Tim started with Alaska before he finally breaked the ice with the proper line up to make Alaska one of the elite teams in the PBA.
pwede naman nila gayahin un SMC style of hiring a coaching line up and shuffle them to coach para iba iba ang diskarte sa mga games.
Like BGK, another set back for coach SIOT so malamang CHUALAI (alfrancis) will take over as head coach next year.
The official word from owner Wilfred Uytengsu is that Joel Banal resigned voluntarily ..... having failed to lead ALASKA to semis stints the past 2 conferences.
Uytengsu is known to demand excellence from his staff ..... but Joel Banal was signed-on for a 3-year contract ...... pulling the plug after just 2 conferences seems illogical.
There's the distinct possibility that Uytengsu is doing all of this, to pave the way for an eventual sale of the franchise .... which he has publicly threatened to do before.
Besides the obvious factor of having a bad economy, the PBA is a far different place now than before ..... parity is at it's lowest with SMC & MVP teams blatantly hoarding & acquiring talent without any regard to perceived salary cap violations ...... all of this being done via the lackey teams of Bert Lina.
Also, a Dutch corporation controls ALASKA now ..... Dutch arent known as fans of basketball.
Luigi Trillo has had close ties with the CEBUANA-LHULLIER group for years now ..... if ever ALASKA sells its franchise, that group would be a good place to start ..... or maybe, its under negotiations already.
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So its TIM vs CHOT and again SMC (Bmeg) vs TNT sa PBA Finals.
Bmeg is BIG so i think they should have the edge and finish TNT in 5 or 6 games.
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Lets give Luigi Trillo a chance. Malay natin sa PBA cya mag excel... Like what Siot did when he first coached Ginebra... Dont be too negative ;)
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Lets give Luigi Trillo a chance. Malay natin sa PBA cya mag excel... Like what Siot did when he first coached Ginebra... Dont be too negative ;)
I'd actually want Luigi Trillo to succeed ..... after all, it's ALASKA - the only team which (besides ROS) which plays fair and conducts it's PBA business above-board.
Most just can't help notice the fact ...... a.) Joel Banal was fired just 2 conferences into his 3-year contract ...... b.) his replacement, Luigi Trillo did go winless in his first 2-seasons with AdU - a record for all the wrong reasons.
It's likely that Trillo has learned his lessons & improved his craft, by this time ..... I would have wanted ALASKA to finish the season first, before making any coaching assessments.
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I agree that Trillo be given a chance to prove himself.... but can't help but think..... nakuha niya ba ang coaching job dahil sa influence ng tatay nya? Same goe sto the son of Chot Reyes at TNT.... ala pang background kahit sa collegiate level and yet assistant coach na sa PBA? ???
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I agree that Trillo be given a chance to prove himself.... but can't help but think..... nakuha niya ba ang coaching job dahil sa influence ng tatay nya? Same goe sto the son of Chot Reyes at TNT.... ala pang background kahit sa collegiate level and yet assistant coach na sa PBA? ???
ALASKA has always been a close-knit team, preferring to tap ex-players & close associates for its staff ..... Luigi had a decent UAAP playing career & has been a longtime assistant coach ..... having Joaqui Trillo as dad will open some doors as well (like it did years ago, when he was appointed AdU head coach).
I would have preferred the modest gamble in Jojo Lastimosa over Luigi Trillo ..... but Uytengsu has made his choice & let's support ALASKA's quest ..... in Uytengsu's own words "win with honor."
TnT's Josh Reyes ...... he's a different thing altogether.
Let's just say that daddy Chot Reyes is a vain whiner who loves to hear himself talk ..... he'd like nothing more than to pass his son as a "genius" like himself.
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ALASKA has always been a close-knit team, preferring to tap ex-players & close associates for its staff ..... Luigi had a decent UAAP playing career & has been a longtime assistant coach ..... having Joaqui Trillo as dad will open some doors as well (like it did years ago, when he was appointed AdU head coach).
I would have preferred the modest gamble in Jojo Lastimosa over Luigi Trillo ..... but Uytengsu has made his choice & let's support ALASKA's quest ..... in Uytengsu's own words "win with honor."
TnT's Josh Reyes ...... he's a different thing altogether.
Let's just say that daddy Chot Reyes is a vain whiner who loves to hear himself talk ..... he'd like nothing more than to pass his son as a "genius" like himself.
How right you are sir. This fella thinks he is a cut above the rest of the field.... even in his fashion sense... while the other teams' coaching staff wear their respective uniforms, he makes an effort to make a scene just by wearing those wild outfits... ;D
But come interview time, he will always try to gain the sympathy of everyone ....
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it looks like alaska will be the team to be sold during the offseason and not powerade?
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it looks like alaska will be the team to be sold during the offseason and not powerade?
Nobody outside of SMC would want ALASKA to leave the PBA.
However, ALASKA selling its franchise has become a distinct possibility: ..... Uytengsu selling majority control to Dutch Corp RFC ..... plus the close ties of Trillo with CEBUANA-LHULLIER might be a clue.
If ever ALASKA sells its franchise, they'll only sell it to a non-SMC & MVP team ..... kinda like CEBUANA-LHULLIER, who had been exploring the PBA for the past few years now.
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POWERADE selling its franshise to SMC should be a foregone conclusion ..... the extremely questionable & blatant attempt to trade super-rookie Marcio Lassiter PLUS the revelation of a very sensitive corporate document, has all but confirmed the sale.
I'd treat that document as truth ..... a.) who the hell would make up such a document? ....... b.) who the hell would forge the signature of a foreigner president of a multinational corporation?
Like I had posted before ..... POWERADE & SMC were caught with their pants down, the last time around ..... they wont make the same mistake again.
The next attempt to trade Lassiter (and others) will be "legal" to PBA Comm. Cheato Salud.
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http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/255341/sports/basketball/pba-former-ginebra-import-chris-alexander-vents-on-twitter-later-apologizes (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/255341/sports/basketball/pba-former-ginebra-import-chris-alexander-vents-on-twitter-later-apologizes)
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is mikee romero still interested in owning a pba team?
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Cebuana will be much better specially if they can bring in talents mostly from the south.
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Cebuana will be much better specially if they can bring in talents mostly from the south.
Yup ..... I've always believed that some regional passion is needed to spur the growth of the PBA.
It was the main selling point of the MBA ..... unfortunate that many other factors contributed to their downfall.
The old MAMA's LOVE team showed that a Visayan team can carve a niche here in Manila ...... bringing with them more fans and more regional interest.
CEBUANA-LHULLIER will likely make a good future team in the PBA ...... hope the 6-SMC teams (PETRON, GINEBRA, BMEG, AIR21, BARAKO & POWERADE) dont block them the way PHOENIX Petroleum was blocked.
is mikee romero still interested in owning a pba team?
Unfortunate that Mikee Romero's interest in the PBA totally faded when his attempt at a merger with MVP (for then BURGER KING) failed.
Romero would have made an ideal team owner ..... young, committed with finances to boot.
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yes the old Mama's Love team led by Jolas was the best regional team to join the amateur league that time. Grabe un support ng mga Cebuano.
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i hope matuloy ang Cebuana team, sana makalaro pa ulit ng PBA si Bruce Dacia(is he still active?) i love the way that guy plays sayang lang di nabigyan ng sapat na exposure sa PBA before, kung matuloy nga, baka si Jolas na ang coach, babalik na ulit ako sa panonood ng pba woohooo
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And it's finally done.. Lassiter is now with Petron together with Celino Cruz for Al Hussaini, Guevarra and Lordy Tugade..
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And it's finally done.. Lassiter is now with Petron together with Celino Cruz for Al Hussaini, Guevarra and Lordy Tugade..
di ba magaling yung guevarra? yung Al Husseini matangkad na nag mvp sa uaap?
lordy siguro kaya pang bumalik with enough playing time
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And it's finally done.. Lassiter is now with Petron together with Celino Cruz for Al Hussaini, Guevarra and Lordy Tugade..
eala the great strikes again...mukhang ok naman ung trade. except that the circumstances attending the trade is not.
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PBA Comm. Cheato Salud strikes again ...... walang tigil ang moro-moro sa PBA.
** Despite being a rookie, Marcio Lassiter is running 3rd in overall stats for the entire league (!)
** Rabeh Al-Hussaini & Rey Guevarra were part of a previous lopsided trade ..... Al-Hussaini just came from an ACL injury and hardly played this season ...... Rey Guevarra is not injured, yet saw little playing time ...... Lordy Tugade was "waived" by AIR21, prior to being picked-up by PETRON.
Any other professional league in the world would have raised a howl with this trade ...... raised a howl with the countless other previous lopsided trades.
This is the PBA ..... "Kampihan Na" - Cheato Salud
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now what if Rabeh Al-Hussaini, Rey Guevarra and Lordy Tugade are given playing time in their new team, and then Rabeh and Rey achieve their potential and Lordy's game comes back in just a short period of time, will Eala then try to get them back again?
sana lahat ng itrade ni eala palabas ng Petron, Ginebra o BMeg ay gumaling para manghinayang sila sa mga binibitawan nila.
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And it's finally done.. Lassiter is now with Petron together with Celino Cruz for Al Hussaini, Guevarra and Lordy Tugade..
pwede na din :P hanep apat ang kapalit, bibitawan na din siguro si Hontiveros ???
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pwede na din :P hanep apat ang kapalit, bibitawan na din siguro si Hontiveros ???
tatlo lang mapupunta sa Powerade.. Petron will probably alternate Lutz and Lassiter at 3 when Dondon comes back.. Yeo and Dondon will be their SG.. Miranda will slide back to PG with Alex and Celino Cruz as 3rd string.. they'll probably draft a big man in August.. either Fajardo or Slaughter.. Ildefonso will retire.. then Toroman will probably take over by then.. Alfrancis Chua will coach Ginebra by then as well.. and the Ron Jacobs/Danding era in SMC will officially be over..
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pwede na din :P hanep apat ang kapalit, bibitawan na din siguro si Hontiveros ???
Hontiveros was part of the lopsided deal that brought over Al-Hussaini, Baclao & Guevarra from AIR21 ..... Hontiveros was actually the centerpiece of the revised deal that finally got Salud's approval.
Yet after just a single conference, Hontiveros was back in PETRON .... moro-moro right?
There's some rumors that Yeo might be eventually moved because of the SG logjam in PETRON.
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One more angle on why the Lassiter trade stinks.
** Al-Hussaini & Guevarra were high picks when they were drafted back in 2010. They are now on the 3rd year of their rookie contracts ..... which guarantees a monthly salary of no less than P300k per month (!)
** Meanwhile, Marcio Lassiter is a rookie ..... despite being a rookie, he was instrumental in their Finals stint last conference ..... he is running 3rd in stats in the entire PBA.
Lassiter is on the 1st year of his rookie contract which is only pegged at P150K per month.
** Between Lordy Tugade & Celino Cruz, there is no doubt that Tugade is commanding the bigger salary - likely around P250k per month.
Basically, the trade makes POWERADE absorb an additional salary expense of around P500,000 per month .... while giving up the man responsible for their Finals stint ..... in exchange for players who hardly played at all? WTF?
Let's not even mention that POWERADE head coach Bo Perasol & (ex) team governor JB Baylon has repeatedly announced that they do not want to trade Lassiter or any of their core (David, Lassiter, Casio, Anthony & Kramer).
Together with the leaked POWERADE signed document ..... Baylon's resignation ..... it's very obvious that the Lassiter-trade is yet another one of SMC's unethical moves to get the best players available.
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a won game that slipped away....series now tied at 1-1.
on another issue...a bit far fetched but seems logical. joel banal recently resigned as coach of alaska and was replaced by luigi trillo. before joel left, alaska was sold to a dutch company. before the season started, tim cone left the team and joined b-meg. now, there are rumors that alaska will either disband or sell its franchise. then it crossed my mind --- could it be possible that it was fred uytengsu's plan all along to disband the team? and to reward cone for all his hard work and loyalty, he was told to leave the team so as not to be affected by the team's disbandment?
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on another issue...a bit far fetched but seems logical. joel banal recently resigned as coach of alaska and was replaced by luigi trillo. before joel left, alaska was sold to a dutch company. before the season started, tim cone left the team and joined b-meg. now, there are rumors that alaska will either disband or sell its franchise. then it crossed my mind --- could it be possible that it was fred uytengsu's plan all along to disband the team? and to reward cone for all his hard work and loyalty, he was told to leave the team so as not to be affected by the team's disbandment?
No.. it was Tim Cone's decision to leave.. it's pretty obvious why Tim Cone left.. he has 13 titles and Baby Dalupan has 15.. he wants to be the coach with the most titles in the PBA.. he realized that with Uytengsu not willing to spend more to have a competitive team, he has no chance of surpassing Dalupan if he stays with Alaska..
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No.. it was Tim Cone's decision to leave.. it's pretty obvious why Tim Cone left.. he has 13 titles and Baby Dalupan has 15.. he wants to be the coach with the most titles in the PBA.. he realized that with Uytengsu not willing to spend more to have a competitive team, he has no chance of surpassing Dalupan if he stays with Alaska..
well, it just crossed my mind. a fruit of my very playful mind. :D
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PBA records show that ALASKA is the league's highest salaried team - having the most number of players receiving the maximum salary of P350k per month.
Of the 15 PBA players receiving max salary ...... 4 plays for ALASKA (Sonny Thoss, LA Tenorio, JR Reyes & Tony Dela Cruz) ..... another 2 (Devance & Hugnatan) received their max salary contracts when they were still with ALASKA.
It's clear that ALASKA abides by the salary cap rules ..... and spends money, within these rules, to build a contending team.
Tim Cone does want more championships to surpass Dalupan ..... what's funny is, Tim Cone has time and again, blasted SMC for all the dubious stuff ..... yet in the end, joins them to chase the record.
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JR Reyes is maximum salary? wow how can this be eh parang wala namang naitutulong sa alaska ito, mas ok pa yata to keep hugnatan than getting reyes before
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JR Reyes is maximum salary? wow how can this be eh parang wala namang naitutulong sa alaska ito, mas ok pa yata to keep hugnatan than getting reyes before
JR Reyes received his max salary contract while he was with his previous RAIN OR SHINE team.
I fully agree that he is inept in many ways ..... however, he was the best trade available during the time when Joe "Green Pastures" Devance was demanding that he be traded from ALASKA.
Hugnatan's max contract was the very same reason that ALASKA traded him away ...... Cyrus Baguio was up for a contract renewal - management chose to trade Hugnatan (and Fonacier) to stay under the salary cap and be able to renew Baguio and sign-up Custodio.
Like I said, ALASKA follows the PBA salary cap ..... their line-up (great starting-five + weak bench) is indicative of that.
SMC & TnT teams are ultra-loaded with name players (great starting five + great bench + great injured/reserve list) ..... obviously, doing hocus-pocus acts to retain such a lineup.
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what do you guys think on TnT getting so many FT attempts? in my opinion, masyadong malayo ang FT attempt stats ng finals.
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what do you guys think on TnT getting so many FT attempts? in my opinion, masyadong malayo ang FT attempt stats ng finals.
FT disparity shouldn't be an issue, as long as one team is the clear agressor ..... it becomes an issue when the refs continuously call 'em differently for both teams.
During the recent BMEG-BGK semis, fouls being called against BGK were not being called against BMEG (ex. Simon's pushes against Helterbrand causing JJ a few turnovers).
During the recent TnT-BARAKO semis, refs suddenly turn whistle-happy when TnT started to whine about their bandages (save for the cheapshot on K.Williams of course).
The most infamous of course was the NBA 2002 game 6 between the Lakers & the Kings .... that game showed extremely clear bias by the refs for Lakers.
However, during these Finals, TnT has been the more agressive team ..... Jason Castro's forays into the lane alone can get 2-3 fouls a quarter from BMEG.
One more thing, Castro sells marginal fouls well ..... he isn't flopping, he just knows how to emphasize the contact from opposing teams.
The Finals should get more tight (and exciting) from hereon in ..... hope the refs dont play a part in any victory or loss.
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series tied...TnT played superb tonight. they had B-Meg since the get-go.
the most exciting part was at the 1:47 mark of the game. ;D
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MC47 seems to have finally broken the media barrier. or maybe he got the votes form the other sources. either way, he still won it.
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sayang kanina yung chance for BMEG to go 3-1... naging predictable sila masyado sa half court setup nila.
there many non-calls rin by the refs.
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MC47 seems to have finally broken the media barrier. or maybe he got the votes form the other sources. either way, he still won it.
being hurt and bgk's subsequent elimination might have helped too!
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looks like Powerade is back to SMC na.. they're doing a fire sale now.. Lassiter is gone and now they just tried to trade a vastly improved Doug Kramer to Barako for a rarely used Jondan Salvador.. Salud vetoed it but it's going thru at some point.. Kramer will probably move to either Ginebra or B-Meg, eventually.. Petron just got Dorian Peña back from Barako kapalit ni Celino Cruz at Carlos Sharma.. SMC now has 5 teams in the league and all they have to show for it is 1 title..
just over a year ago, Petron traded Hontiveros, Seigle, Peña and Artadi for Al Hussaini, Baclao and Guevarra.. one year later, only Baclao remains and they've gotten back Hontiveros and Peña.. they also acquired the top rookie this season by trading away the guys they traded for last year.. if you're blind, you'd say Noli Eala is a genius.. imagine, he traded the pillars of the team then 1 year later he gets them back at may kasama pang players that will carry the team in the future.. how freakin' blind is the PBA? PBA execs should undergo a lifestyle check starting with Salud and Bert Lina..
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^ Tsk tsk tsk ...... yet more blatant moves by SMC & it's lackeys to further strengthen the already loaded SMC teams.
** Dorian Pena is old, but still very valuable down low - TnT's import Harvey had it hard with Pena during their recent semis match with BARAKO.
Sharma (who was practically "waived" by AIR21 to PETRON less then a year ago) hardly plays for PETRON .... while Celino Cruz has long been relegated to 3rd string PG at POWERADE.
** Doug Kramer has had a great season so far (dipped a bit this import-laden conference) and is actually a good candidate for MIP.
Jondan Salvador has been buried deep in BARAKO's old bench.
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"Kampihan na!" - Cheato Salud
"Fair play, professionalism & salary cap ..... ano yun?? " - Noli Eala, Ramon Ang & Danding Cojunagco
"Players mo, sagot ko!" - Bert Lina
"Hindi na kaya nang sikmura ko ang garapalan. I resign." - POWERADE's JB Baylon
"What's the difference with our P350,000 and the other team's P350,000? They're the same right?" - ALASKA's Wilfred Uytengsu
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rejected daw ang kramer - salvador trade. buti na lang. =)
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rejected daw ang kramer - salvador trade. buti na lang. =)
Like the recent Lassiter trade and all the numerous lopsided trades that SMC has done ..... this trade will likely push thru eventually.
PBA Comm. Cheato Salud will make sure of that.
By the way, the proposed trade is between POWERADE (Kramer) and BARAKO BULL (Salvador) ...... will anybody be surprised when Doug Kramer somehow winds up in SMC ??
Walang tigil ang moro-moro sa PBA sidelines.
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Like the recent Lassiter trade and all the numerous lopsided trades that SMC has done ..... this trade will likely push thru eventually.
PBA Comm. Cheato Salud will make sure of that.
By the way, the proposed trade is between POWERADE (Kramer) and BARAKO BULL (Salvador) ...... will anybody be surprised when Doug Kramer somehow winds up in SMC ??
Walang tigil ang moro-moro sa PBA sidelines.
yep, it will be revised eventually. sad sad sad case lang din talaga kasi nasisira ang lineups ng mga teams and di nagiging balanced ang competition. sana next conference ang mag laban sa finals eh rain or shine and alaska and ma-upset nila sa semis ang mga MVP and SMC owned teams =)
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As suspected, Powerade is on a fire sale.... looks like Gary David is the top auction item. Lassiter was the first one to go, Kramer will follow as soon as the deal is revised.
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who will get gary david and casio kaya?
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^ Let's just say that should Gary David & JV Casio get traded ..... they'll likely end up with SMC or TnT.
Like I said, the leaked POWERADE document (signed no less by COKE's CEO) clearly shows that the franchise is on it's way out ...... despite this, PBA Commish Cheato Salud still allowed the lopsided Lassiter trade.
The PBA is the premiere sports league in the country ...... hence, it should be in the frontline promoting teamwork, values and honest competition.
The PBA hasn't promoted anything positive in a long time now ...... worse, these lopsided trades and questionable transactions have created millions of fanboys who value only winning - with no care at all to fair play & professionalism.
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^ Let's just say that should Gary David & JV Casio get traded ..... they'll likely end up with SMC or TnT.
Like I said, the leaked POWERADE document (signed no less by COKE's CEO) clearly shows that the franchise is on it's way out ...... despite this, PBA Commish Cheato Salud still allowed the lopsided Lassiter trade.
The PBA is the premiere sports league in the country ...... hence, it should be in the frontline promoting teamwork, values and honest competition.
The PBA hasn't promoted anything positive in a long time now ...... worse, these lopsided trades and questionable transactions have created millions of fanboys who value only winning - with no care at all to fair play & professionalism.
which is why im hoping for an alaska vs rain or shine finals for next conference =) para sampal sa mga lopsided trades sa pba to strengthen certain teams.
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^ That's exactly why POWERADE's Finals stint last conference was a very good thing for the sport ..... it showed that a bad team can rebuild itself properly, through the draft and succeed.
POWERADE was a always the team being eliminated early ..... but when they drafted smart e.g. Anthony, Casio, Lassiter, Lingganay, Allera, etc they began to win and contend.
Lo and behold - just a conference later, PBA Comm. Cheato Salud & Noli Eala conspire to get Lassiter for PETRON. Shame on Salud & SMC.
An ALASKA-ROS finals would be nice ..... though I wouldn't mind any finals tandem at all - as long as fair play & professionalism (on and off the court) was observed.
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As long as the SMC teams cannot form a team which can compete consistently with TnT, there will always be lopsided or questionable trades and deals. TnT hasn't made any questionable deals lately, since the team is probably the best and most consistent team these past few years. Expect that any deals made by MVP will be for Meralco's benefit.
These trades and deals have their cons too. With constant trading and dealing, chemistry between players will not be established. Confidence and moral go down, specially if you are part of the starting five and then suddenly you're relegated to a supporting role with diminished playing time.
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As long as the SMC teams cannot form a team which can compete consistently with TnT, there will always be lopsided or questionable trades and deals. TnT hasn't made any questionable deals lately, since the team is probably the best and most consistent team these past few years. Expect that any deals made by MVP will be for Meralco's benefit.
These trades and deals have their cons too. With constant trading and dealing, chemistry between players will not be established. Confidence and moral go down, specially if you are part of the starting five and then suddenly you're relegated to a supporting role with diminished playing time.
on the other hand, this might be a big surprise to SMC Teams who keep trading non superstars, i Recalled during his rookie year and prior to injury, Jon Dan Salvador is a force to reckon with, if he has the will, he has what it takes to excel, I hope he use this chance being trasfrred to a lowly team compared to SMC teams or MVP teams. Tugade is one of the superstars before and he might get a second wind in his career who knows. Ray Guevarra is a decent player in the amateur, I hope he also gets the chance to excel and Al Husseini is an MVP and very tall, we can never tell, I hope these players do well as they are all capable
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should the former SMC players excel in their new teams, expect SMC to engineer a new trade to get them back =)
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and the fire sale is still on.. rumors are ripe for a Casio to Petron, Cabagnot to Ginebra and Cortez to Powerade trade.. if this pushes thru, I feel bad for Cortez.. the guy played his heart out this conference.. in the absence of Caguioa, siya yung nagstep-up.. and the Casio to Petron move would probably mean that Ato Agustin doesn't have much time left as coach of Petron.. Casio, Lutz, Lassiter.. these are Toroman boys..
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sana wag matuloy yung mga trade rumors na yan...
yep cortez is the consistent player for BGK and stepping up when needed and he is the playmaker for the team whereas jj helterbrand looks to score more and rob labagala wanting to shoot 3s instead of concentrating on being the playmaker for the team.
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another "C" player is macmac Cardona. i hope it's him instead of cortez. besides, i don't think Caguioa will set well with the idea of Cabagnot being his teammate.
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I have a feeling that Sean Anthony goes first before David & Casio.
However, the next move that I actually have no problem seeing now ...... formal announcements by ALASKA & ROS that they're folding up their PBA teams.
May the basketball gods lay the hammer of justice on SMC's Noli Eala, Robert Non, Rene Pardo & Cheato Salud.
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go BMEG!
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another "C" player is macmac Cardona. i hope it's him instead of cortez. besides, i don't think Caguioa will set well with the idea of Cabagnot being his teammate.
Cardona plays for Meralco which is an MVP team.
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Go TNT!!!
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Iceman BOWLES!
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Iceman BOWLES!
panalo bMEG???
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SUPER BOWLES talaga. Bowles vs the whole TNT and Bowles won
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SUPER BOWLES talaga. Bowles vs the whole TNT and Bowles won
HAHAHA....
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what a series! this is the type of game that makes PBA worth watching.
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SAYANG hindi ko napanood hehehe...
office kasi ako
parehas ko team ...hihihihi
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sayang sir. it went into OT :-)
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sayang sir. it went into OT :-)
ganda nga talaga ng laban
im expecting this to go to game 7 and for sure they did not disappoint viewers
sana may replay
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panalo bMEG???
After converting those two pressure packed free throws that sent the game into overtime, he played like a demon possessed during the overtime and went unstoppable.
If i were to bet, i will bet on TNT and TNT was almost there, just one no call by the ref in the last few seconds of the regulation time but it was GOD's will that Bmeg and Bowles that will prevail in the end.
It's very unfortunate that TNT lost its import and key players due to fouls and injury specially the two split foul shots of Ali Peek when the Championship was almost in the bag after building a 9 point lead in the last few minutes of the game.
GOOD BYE Grand Slam for TNT try again next year.
Sorry Chot, you still dont belong to the elite Grand Slam Coaches like Dalupan, Manotoc, Cone, Black.
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it was one hell of a game. sorry loss for TnT. panalo na, natalo pa. at may pa-hero effect pa si alapag...pumasok pa nung last two minutes of overtime.
great series...great win by B-Meg...
with the two-week break, expect names to float on the trading block. i'm sure, SMC will be at the forefront of these trades. loverboy will surely be very active...
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the two free throws of Bowles..FTW!!!
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with the two-week break, expect names to float on the trading block. i'm sure, SMC will be at the forefront of these trades. loverboy will surely be very active...
Nice game 7 ..... Bowles is yet another good import find for Tim Cone (recently Diamon Simpson).
However, Tim Cone has done nothing new & radical with BMEG. He still coaches the same way he did in ALASKA - tough defense, play triangle by default, feed the import & greenlight your best players.
Just goes to show that you need formidable starting + formidable bench talent to win in today's PBA.
Still, Noli "Lover Boy" Eala should take a cue from the recent BMEG win ...... you don't have to play fantasy league & stack 15 great players for your team to succeed.
Tim Cone had let go of Raymundo, Roger Yap & Maierhoffer the past conferences ..... he gave spotty playing time to many (Reavis, Villanueva, etc) and has kept many in his doghouse (Gaco, Acuna, etc).
Tim Cone has always been a firm believer of a short & tight player rotation ..... he plays just 8-10 people any given game. This has served him well with ALASKA, and now has shown with BMEG.
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Nice game 7 ..... Bowles is yet another good import find for Tim Cone (recently Diamon Simpson).
Add Sean Chambers to that...
Norman Black also has a good eye for imports. Lamont Strothers, Ennis Whatley, Damien Owens to name a few.
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it was one hell of a game. sorry loss for TnT. panalo na, natalo pa. at may pa-hero effect pa si alapag...pumasok pa nung last two minutes of overtime.
great series...great win by B-Meg...
with the two-week break, expect names to float on the trading block. i'm sure, SMC will be at the forefront of these trades. loverboy will surely be very active...
kaso di umubra. nag-error pa.
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kaso di umubra. nag-error pa.
Alapag gave it all and its very unfortunate he wasnt there to finish the game. Kung andun lng sya in the last few seconds of the regular time of the game, for sure TNT na ang celebrating ngaun but as i've said, it was GOD's Will the BMEG prevailed.
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Alapag gave it all and its very unfortunate he wasnt there to finish the game. Kung andun lng sya in the last few seconds of the regular time of the game, for sure TNT na ang celebrating ngaun but as i've said, it was GOD's Will the BMEG prevailed.
he has done it before and he probably would do it again. Unfortunately, this time around, it was not meant to be!
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sana next year wala ulit height limit ang isang conference sa pba para pwede makabalik sila bowles =)
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One of the best Finals I've seen.. kung ganito palagi, makakabalik na ang PBA..
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One of the best Finals I've seen.. kung ganito palagi, makakabalik na ang PBA..
but it always has to be MVP's teams vs Danding's teams to spice up every finals in the PBA.
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but it always has to be MVP's teams vs Danding's teams to spice up every finals in the PBA.
kaso mukhang kulang pa sa shady deals and one-sided deals ang meralco para makacompete. laging tnt against the smc teams.
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kaso mukhang kulang pa sa shady deals and one-sided deals ang meralco para makacompete. laging tnt against the smc teams.
Meralco havent made their moves yet coz mas may hatak ang TNT but all PBA finals has to be MVP teams vs SMC teams ksi kung puros SMC team vs SMC team, eh walang kwenta at bka magkabentahan lng ng laro.
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Meralco havent made their moves yet coz mas may hatak ang TNT but all PBA finals has to be MVP teams vs SMC teams ksi kung puros SMC team vs SMC team, eh walang kwenta at bka magkabentahan lng ng laro.
+1.. sana limit na din and filams, gusto ko makita yung players from NC and UAAP sa pba..
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okay lang naman ang mga filams as long as filams nga talaga and not fil-shams. the pba has added the requirement na rin that they need to have a stint sa pba d-league para maiwasan ang mga draft bust.
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natrade na rin pala ng powerade si kramer. mukang wala na sila balak magcompete next season
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natrade na rin pala ng powerade si kramer. mukang wala na sila balak magcompete next season
sino kapalit ni kramer?
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si jondan salvador at draft pick
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Nun nag improve laro ni dorian pena kinuha uli ng petron ??? ??? ???
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Nun nag improve laro ni dorian pena kinuha uli ng petron ??? ??? ???
di naman nila talaga bibitawan si dorian dati kasi siya lang ang talagang center ng smc kaso para makuha sina rabeh, baclao at guevarra, binitawan na rin. ngayong wala na si rabeh, wala na naman silang malaki sa gitna dahil puro sa labas ang laro ng mga malalaki nila. di naman talaga inaasahan sa puntos si dorian. ang inaasahan sa kanya ay yung depensa at mga nakukuhang rebounds. bonus na lang yung puntos.
yan ang problema ng palit ng palit ng tao. yung akala mong di mo na kailangan ay kakailanganin mo pa rin pala. isa pa, malapit na siguro talagang magretire si ildefonso.
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Petron needs a banger in the middle and now they have Reyes, Carlos Sharma and Dorian to alternate at the middle.
Too bad Rabeh didnt clicked with Petron tapos injured pa.
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di naman nila talaga bibitawan si dorian dati kasi siya lang ang talagang center ng smc kaso para makuha sina rabeh, baclao at guevarra, binitawan na rin. ngayong wala na si rabeh, wala na naman silang malaki sa gitna dahil puro sa labas ang laro ng mga malalaki nila. di naman talaga inaasahan sa puntos si dorian. ang inaasahan sa kanya ay yung depensa at mga nakukuhang rebounds. bonus na lang yung puntos.
yan ang problema ng palit ng palit ng tao. yung akala mong di mo na kailangan ay kakailanganin mo pa rin pala. isa pa, malapit na siguro talagang magretire si ildefonso.
pag san miguel naman walang problema kahit mag palit palit ng tao eh, sila naman nag papatakbo ng PBA hehehe
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Petron needs a banger in the middle and now they have Reyes, Carlos Sharma and Dorian to alternate at the middle.
Too bad Rabeh didnt clicked with Petron tapos injured pa.
Sharma's gone.. he was the one traded for Dorian.. Baclao is the other center left..
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pag san miguel naman walang problema kahit mag palit palit ng tao eh, sila naman nag papatakbo ng PBA hehehe
it's actually MVP who runs the PBA.. yung pera sa kanya galing eh.. Coverage/TV Panel sa kanya.. Website sa kanya.. Coliseum sa kanya.. Commercials sa kanya.. ngayong di nag-champion, boycott sa All-Star.. si Salud at ang Board sa SMC..
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it's actually MVP who runs the PBA.. yung pera sa kanya galing eh.. Coverage/TV Panel sa kanya.. Website sa kanya.. Coliseum sa kanya.. Commercials sa kanya.. ngayong di nag-champion, boycott sa All-Star.. si Salud at ang Board sa SMC..
ah sosyo pala ang MVP ta SMC hehehehe
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Hindi na tlaga maganda sa league ang mga players movements involving SMC teams.
Sila lng ang very active moving around all its talents revolving around the Lina teams.
Actually mas gusto ko pa un TNT ksi they kept their core and dont move their players that much.
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Hindi na tlaga maganda sa league ang mga players movements involving SMC teams.
Sila lng ang very active moving around all its talents revolving around the Lina teams.
Actually mas gusto ko pa un TNT ksi they kept their core and dont move their players that much.
looks like they are about to, now.. a trade is brewing between Meralco, TNT and Air21.. Aguilar, Espinas and Cardona are some names floating around.. TNT and Meralco are going to swap players daw.. looks like Air21 is hoping to get a go-to-guy in exchange for a draft pick..
oh and Casio, David and Sean Anthony are probably going to be shipped out before the season is over.. Powerade has a buyer na daw..
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ah sosyo pala ang MVP ta SMC hehehehe
kelan ba huling nag champion ang non MVP or SMC team?
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it's actually MVP who runs the PBA.. yung pera sa kanya galing eh.. Coverage/TV Panel sa kanya.. Website sa kanya.. Coliseum sa kanya.. Commercials sa kanya.. ngayong di nag-champion, boycott sa All-Star.. si Salud at ang Board sa SMC..
MVP owning the TV crew, station, coliseum doesnt really amount to anything - in terms of advantage or leverage ...... however, Chito Salud being the league commissioner is a totally different case.
Crocodile Danding himself had handpicked Cheato este Chito Salud to be part of the PETRON board, prior to his appointment as PBA commissioner.
Chito Salud has shown complete & blatant bias towards the SMC teams when it comes to unbelievable lopsided trades & other favors.
Here's my personal favorite:
ALASKA import LD Williams got poked in the eyes and instinctively extended his forearm to protect the ball. He inadvertently hit an opponent in the neck. Chito Salud suspends him the next game.
PETRON import McDonald got miffed by Mick Penissi, threw the ball at Penissi's face with obvious intention to retaliate. Rules clearly state that any hit above the shoulder calls for a one-game suspension. Chito Salud does not suspend the import.
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TnT is clearly still miffed at the foul called against Williams on Bowles during the closing seconds of game7.
The funny thing is, Chito Salud once again shows his clear SMC bias.
During the 2010 Phil Cup Finals between ALASKA & PUREFOODS ..... a very close game was decided, when the refs called a last-second phantom foul on Devance against Raymundo.
To cut a long story short, Chito Salud used the Devance-foul as an example to educate the referees - that light fouls shouldn't be called during tight endgames.
Williams foul on Bowles was eerily similar to the 2010 issue, yet Salud upholds the call - completely contradicting what he was preaching before just because he is with SMC.
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kelan ba huling nag champion ang non MVP or SMC team?
ALASKA 2010 Fiesta Cup champion
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ALASKA 2010 Fiesta Cup champion
unless the PBA chnages its face completely, there will never be any non SMC or MVP team that will become champion, SMC has the luxury of getting p;ayers the way they want it and has another player who is not playing actually but is actually playing with the rules, hayyyyyy wal na bang PBL ngayon?
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Williams foul on Bowles was eerily similar to the 2010 issue, yet Salud upholds the call - completely contradicting what he was preaching before just because he is with SMC.
there was actually contact. Williams bumped Bowles while he was in the air going for a shot. as to whether it made Bowles lose balance and miss the shot at point blank range is arguable. but there was body contact and therefore a foul. the problem is that the referees are not consistent in calling that kind of foul. TnT players use this technique (gulang) for defense and in rebound plays. most of the time they do get away with it but in this instance, the ref who called the foul had a clear view of the play and saw the bump given by Williams to Bowles and thus called the foul.
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its part of the game that TNT need to accept. technically it was a foul and the refs called it.
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there was actually contact. Williams bumped Bowles while he was in the air going for a shot. as to whether it made Bowles lose balance and miss the shot at point blank range is arguable. but there was body contact and therefore a foul. the problem is that the referees are not consistent in calling that kind of foul. TnT players use this technique (gulang) for defense and in rebound plays. most of the time they do get away with it but in this instance, the ref who called the foul had a clear view of the play and saw the bump given by Williams to Bowles and thus called the foul.
I agree...
Obviously there was contact which would merit a foul even in a close game like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbhEmGBo1Iw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbhEmGBo1Iw)
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Talk ‘N Text owner Manuel V. Pangilinan, meanwhile, expressed his frustration with the officiating in the league.
“I’ve been here many years, frustrated. Parang walang nangyayari for the past 12, 13 years, nothing much has changed,” he said, adding that it’s a challenge for the PBA leadership to implement rules fairly.
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5 straight finals and 3 championships, tapos hindi pa satisfied sa officiating? ano naman ang gusto nya sila palagi ang champion? kapag champion okay pero kapag hindi may problema sa officiating?
GREED at its finest!
natawa lang ako sa comment regarding dun sa pagcontest ng TNT sa call
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One of the best Finals I've seen.. kung ganito palagi, makakabalik na ang PBA..
the ginebra san miguel - shell best of 7 finals is still on top of my list. :D
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the ginebra san miguel - shell best of 7 finals is still on top of my list. :D
One of the best indeed sir.
Who could forget the Rudy Distrito shot... ;)
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there was actually contact. Williams bumped Bowles while he was in the air going for a shot. as to whether it made Bowles lose balance and miss the shot at point blank range is arguable. but there was body contact and therefore a foul. the problem is that the referees are not consistent in calling that kind of foul. TnT players use this technique (gulang) for defense and in rebound plays. most of the time they do get away with it but in this instance, the ref who called the foul had a clear view of the play and saw the bump given by Williams to Bowles and thus called the foul.
I actually have no issue with the refs calling it a foul or not ....... the point of my earlier post was PBA Commish Chito Salud already stressed this scenario before (even calling a press conference prior to the 2011 season).
Chito Salud specifically cited the 2010 Devance foul on Raymundo ...... he stressed that those kinds of fouls needs to be avoided by refs - let the players decide the last few seconds rather than the refs.
Seems like when it's SMC on the "dehado" end ..... Salud always seems to bend backwards for them.
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Espinas to Alaska, JayR Reyes to Meralco.. for approval.. nakaw 'to ng Alaska.. they unload salary tapos they get a better big man.. Reyes might still move to TNT daw for Japeth..
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Williams foul on Bowles was eerily similar to the 2010 issue, yet Salud upholds the call - completely contradicting what he was preaching before just because he is with SMC.
I do not think the commisioner can uphold or nulify a ref's call
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Espinas to Alaska, JayR Reyes to Meralco.. for approval.. nakaw 'to ng Alaska.. they unload salary tapos they get a better big man.. Reyes might still move to TNT daw for Japeth..
If this gets approved, Joaqui Trillo does it again ..... inept JR Reyes for a more versatile Espinas - though Espinas' current injury status remains to be seen.
Big man for big man ..... salaries shouldn't be far from each other (Reyes is a max contract) ..... this is the way basketball trades should work ..... something which PBA Commish Cheato Salud has little regard to.
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I do not think the commisioner can uphold or nulify a ref's call
Nope, he cannot ..... what I meant by uphold, Salud did not find merit to sanction or warn the referees - like what he did after 2010's Finals crucial foul called on Joe Devance against Kerby Raymundo.
Salud's very words were ...... referees should not decide the outcome of the game, moreso in the dying seconds of close games.
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seems like Alaska is finally getting someone who can play, they have wasted money kay JR Reyes and i think Espinas is way better, di ba ang lakas nito sa amateur before and maganda naman nilalaro sa pba lately, sana may makuha ding malaks na wingman ang Alaska, mukhang mahina na si dela cruz eh
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it is a good move as long as Espinas plays clean. lately kasi eh madalas ko makita ang mga elbow moves niya and other "gulang" moves. basta he goes about his job which is hussle plays and 2nd chance points eh good move na yan for alaska.
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it is a good move as long as Espinas plays clean. lately kasi eh madalas ko makita ang mga elbow moves niya and other "gulang" moves. basta he goes about his job which is hussle plays and 2nd chance points eh good move na yan for alaska.
It's definitely a good move by ALASKA, since they need a forward more than they need a center. They already have Thoss, Eman & bencher Sotto at the center spot.
JR Reyes came onboard ALASKA due to Joe Devance suddenly demanding a trade, about a year ago ...... Uytengsu wanted Devance out as fast as possible - malas lang at si JR Reyes lang ang feasible trade bait at that time.
Espinas does play with some small "gulang" ...... though, it's not the kind that knowingly hurts & annoys opponents (e.g. Tubid, Pennisi, etc.)
Some of the recent PBA greats plays with significant "gulang" ...... e.g. Bong Hawkins (the best ever in using his butt to rebound & create scoring space), Johhny Abarrientos (pa-simpleng hawi to create scoring space), Jerry Codinera (magaling sa pa-simpleng tulak to get those rebounds), etc. ;D
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It's definitely a good move by ALASKA, since they need a forward more than they need a center. They already have Thoss, Eman & bencher Sotto at the center spot.
JR Reyes came onboard ALASKA due to Joe Devance suddenly demanding a trade, about a year ago ...... Uytengsu wanted Devance out as fast as possible - malas lang at si JR Reyes lang ang feasible trade bait at that time.
Espinas does play with some small "gulang" ...... though, it's not the kind that knowingly hurts & annoys opponents (e.g. Tubid, Pennisi, etc.)
Some of the recent PBA greats plays with significant "gulang" ...... e.g. Bong Hawkins (the best ever in using his butt to rebound & create scoring space), Johhny Abarrientos (pa-simpleng hawi to create scoring space), Jerry Codinera (magaling sa pa-simpleng tulak to get those rebounds), etc. ;D
i have seen Jolas play in the flesh several times, sobrang gulang din
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retired na ba si abbarientos? grabe ang galing pa din at ang bilis pa din parang kayang kaya pa sumabay sa current PGs ng PBA
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retired na ba si abbarientos? grabe ang galing pa din at ang bilis pa din parang kayang kaya pa sumabay sa current PGs ng PBA
Yup, Abbarientos has retired ...... his number was officially retired by ALASKA during their 25th anniversary celebration late 2010.
He would have made a farewell stint with ALASKA, but Trillo only offered him a single conference contract plus Tim Cone did not guarantee minutes for him ...... he ultimately chose to remain as an assistant coach with GINEBRA (assistant coaching stints with SMC are valuable slots .... some have been known to scheme & backstab for those slots).
Abbarientos is clearly the best ever PG to play in the PBA ..... of course, if criteria was solely on overall impact; then hands down it's Robert Jaworski.
I think Abbarientos & Caidic are the only local players who would have made an NBA roster & can actually be part of the rotation (subs) ..... a prime Abbarientos can outplay a few starting NBA PG's then & easily outplay most of the 2nd string PG's.
Look closely and his game was very, very similar to then PG Terrell Brandon.
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iba talaga si the flying A! sana maituro niya sa mga young players yan. =)
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"Abbarientos is clearly the best ever PG to play in the PBA"
Agree with this one, kahit sila hec calma, ricky brown, r. distrito and the likes johnny "A" is clearly above the rest.
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retired na ba si abbarientos? grabe ang galing pa din at ang bilis pa din parang kayang kaya pa sumabay sa current PGs ng PBA
Sayang di ko napanood brader, sana ireplay uli...
Kayang kaya pa talaga nya, kinakapos na lang talaga sa hangin e. I can still remember ng game ng Ginkings vs. TnT, all-filipino ata yun, crucial dying seconds na din ata nun, bola ng TnT, 1on1 sila ni Castro sa 3pt left wing, nung mag aattemp na si Castro ng 3pts, e parang candy lang yung kinuha nya, very crucial yun kasi pwedeng mafoul nya si Castro while attempting a 3pt shot...wow ang linis ng steal! Defensive pg din sya, kung agawan nga nya ng bola mga bigmen ng mga teams noon lalo na si Marlou after a rebound biglang lulusot sa blind side, yun pagkurap wala na yung bola, sabay fade away pa over Marlou's stretched arms! :o
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Sayang di ko napanood brader, sana ireplay uli...
Kayang kaya pa talaga nya, kinakapos na lang talaga sa hangin e. I can still remember ng game ng Ginkings vs. TnT, all-filipino ata yun, crucial dying seconds na din ata nun, bola ng TnT, 1on1 sila ni Castro sa 3pt left wing, nung mag aattemp na si Castro ng 3pts, e parang candy lang yung kinuha nya, very crucial yun kasi pwedeng mafoul nya si Castro while attempting a 3pt shot...wow ang linis ng steal! Defensive pg din sya, kung agawan nga nya ng bola mga bigmen ng mga teams noon lalo na si Marlou after a rebound biglang lulusot sa blind side, yun pagkurap wala na yung bola, sabay fade away pa over Marlou's stretched arms! :o
+1 Iba pa rin talaga galaw ni flying A, walang kupas.
SAYANG hindi ko napanood hehehe...
office kasi ako
parehas ko team ...hihihihi
bro, may replay maya finals Game 7 BMEG vs TNT 6PM ata
last time pinanood ko to kala ko tapos na, lumabas nako kwarto, humabol younger son ko sabi foul daw may free throw pa! Galing pressured free throws naipasok ni monster bowles, panalo pa. Panuorin ko ulet maya :D
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Sayang di ko napanood brader, sana ireplay uli...
Kayang kaya pa talaga nya, kinakapos na lang talaga sa hangin e. I can still remember ng game ng Ginkings vs. TnT, all-filipino ata yun, crucial dying seconds na din ata nun, bola ng TnT, 1on1 sila ni Castro sa 3pt left wing, nung mag aattemp na si Castro ng 3pts, e parang candy lang yung kinuha nya, very crucial yun kasi pwedeng mafoul nya si Castro while attempting a 3pt shot...wow ang linis ng steal! Defensive pg din sya, kung agawan nga nya ng bola mga bigmen ng mga teams noon lalo na si Marlou after a rebound biglang lulusot sa blind side, yun pagkurap wala na yung bola, sabay fade away pa over Marlou's stretched arms! :o
Si the Flying A ang all time steals leader sa pba (correct niyo na lang ako if mali)
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Grabe naman ang TnT...
Natalo lang sa Finals lahat ng participants sa All Star pinull-out.
Ang dahilan eh napagod daw nung Finals...
Pati pla si Bong Ravena at Japet Aguilar napagod nung Finals ??? ??? ???
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Grabe naman ang TnT...
Natalo lang sa Finals lahat ng participants sa All Star pinull-out.
Ang dahilan eh napagod daw nung Finals...
Pati pla si Bong Ravena at Japet Aguilar napagod nung Finals ??? ??? ???
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napagod pati si japeth aguilar??!?! hindi ba dapat may penalties na on the players / coaching staff pag beg off sa all star events? kasi its an event organized for the fans na the pba stars are in one location and maraming activities ang naka line up including charity events...
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Si the Flying A ang all time steals leader sa pba (correct niyo na lang ako if mali)
tama ka sir. number one si Abbarientos 1341. number two si Fernandez 1302. at number three si Fabiosa 1235. number four si Jaworski 937 at number five si Dindo Pumaren 902.
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Grabe naman ang TnT...
Natalo lang sa Finals lahat ng participants sa All Star pinull-out.
Ang dahilan eh napagod daw nung Finals...
Pati pla si Bong Ravena at Japet Aguilar napagod nung Finals ??? ??? ???
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napagod sa bench si japet...
hahaha...
napagod isip ni ravena kung paano natalao ung tnt
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napagod pati si japeth aguilar??!?! hindi ba dapat may penalties na on the players / coaching staff pag beg off sa all star events? kasi its an event organized for the fans na the pba stars are in one location and maraming activities ang naka line up including charity events...
IIRC, may fine yata ang mga players na hindi sisipot sa all-stars. Mark Caguioa was fined a few years back when he did not show up in an event. i just can't recall if it was an all-stars game.
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pagod nga si japeth....mahirap din kasi maupo on the edge of your seat while waiting for you to be fielded in. :D
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napagod din si japeth sa pagtulong kay ryan reyes palabas ng court pagkatapos ng game
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japet seems to be dead cards for TNT
ibigay nalang sa ibang team ng mapakinabangan
kahit nung nag fiba asia
ni hindi maipasok si japet...
felt bad for him - :-[
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japet seems to be dead cards for TNT
ibigay nalang sa ibang team ng mapakinabangan
kahit nung nag fiba asia
ni hindi maipasok si japet...
felt bad for him - :-[
ayaw ni chot reyes na makipagsapalaran. he was really gunning for a last championship with TnT before going to Gilas(?). kung si black ang papalit sa kanya sa TnT, then Japeth may see more playing time. kaya lang dami niya talagang kaagaw sa position niya sa TnT
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ayaw ni chot reyes na makipagsapalaran. he was really gunning for a last championship with TnT before going to Gilas(?). kung si black ang papalit sa kanya sa TnT, then Japeth may see more playing time. kaya lang dami niya talagang kaagaw sa position niya sa TnT
last fiba hindi si chot ung coach pero wala pa din syang playing time
the coach last time was the smart gilas coach but seems he was unable to see any gilas with japet hehehe
hopefully japet will overcome this and be mature and have his oppurtunity
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last fiba hindi si chot ung coach pero wala pa din syang playing time
the coach last time was the smart gilas coach but seems he was unable to see any gilas with japet hehehe
hopefully japet will overcome this and be mature and have his oppurtunity
"bata" pa kasi maglaro si Japeth. walang gulang. pero basketball smarts come with experience. di niya matututunan yung gulang kung di siya paglalaruin.
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PBA All Star Weekend fulfilled fans happiness :D
Sa lahat ng mga PBA players nakipag participate at nakipagkulitan sa mga fans hands down sinuklian lang nila ang support na binibigay sa kanila ng mga manonood ;)
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TnT just with too good many forwards ...... Ranidel, Williams, Carey & Peek (plays center also) are expected to play the most minutes.
Plus, Dillinger is having his best year so far ...... for now, sa dulo talaga nang bench ang bagsak ni Japeth - moreso if it's an import-laced conference.
Doesn't help that Japeth's game is still limited - doesn't have a back-to-the-basket game and just prefers to run when the fastbreak is available.
In some ways, the GILAS stint had stalled Japeth's development ..... he spent 2 years at the GILAS bench, mostly because of his limited game and management opting to get PBA players - which wasn't in GILAS' original plan to begin with.
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Ot.. I'm not a TNT fan, but I think Dilinger is one of the most talented player in the PBA right now, parang Ginobili.. :)
Plus, Dillinger is having his best year so far ...... f
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PBA All Star Weekend fulfilled fans happiness :D
Sa lahat ng mga PBA players nakipag participate at nakipagkulitan sa mga fans hands down sinuklian lang nila ang support na binibigay sa kanila ng mga manonood ;)
-100 for TnT >:(
Buti pa si Pingris naglaro kahit may fracture ang daliri... Si JC kahit masakit ang ankle...
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Ot.. I'm not a TNT fan, but I think Dilinger is one of the most talented player in the PBA right now, parang Ginobili.. :)
+100000000 like the way he play as well
and sa defense maasahan mo lalo na sa mga hussle play
he always run for the ball even if it is outside na like dennis rodman
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ayaw ni chot reyes na makipagsapalaran. he was really gunning for a last championship with TnT before going to Gilas(?). kung si black ang papalit sa kanya sa TnT, then Japeth may see more playing time. kaya lang dami niya talagang kaagaw sa position niya sa TnT
Norman Black's style is he likes to build his team BIG. He always wants his team to dominate and control the boards.
A low post player for high percentage shots together with a work horse of a power forward that will give the team hassle off the boards and a tough defender ala Alvin Teng or Nonoy Baclao.
Aside from Kelly Williams (hassler & defender), i dont see any of TNT's Big men that can blend with Black's style since Chot had already patterned TNT's game to the international style which doesnt have a low post game.
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Norman Black's style is he likes to build his team BIG. He always wants his team to dominate and control the boards.
A low post player for high percentage shots together with a work horse of a power forward that will give the team hassle off the boards and a tough defender ala Alvin Teng or Nonoy Baclao.
Aside from Kelly Williams (hassler & defender), i dont see any of TNT's Big men that can blend with Black's style since Chot had already patterned TNT's game to the international style which doesnt have a low post game.
That's why Black's appointment as Chot's replacement was a small WTF for me ...... Black has traditionally coached old-school - which is near the opposite of what has been successful for TnT this past few years e.g. dribble-drive offense.
In an AKTV interview a few months ago, Black claims to be flexible enough to change his offensive patterns ..... I have doubts on his claims.
His stints with POP-COLA & SANTA LUCIA showed little changes from his SMB days ...... his ATENEO stints also had the same slowdown, deliberate half-court offense.
Still, TnT's lineup (assuming GILAS wont coincide much with the PBA sked) will always guarantee a quarterfinals slot, at the very least ..... regardless of who is coaching.
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That's why Black's appointment as Chot's replacement was a small WTF for me ...... Black has traditionally coached old-school - which is near the opposite of what has been successful for TnT this past few years e.g. dribble-drive offense.
In an AKTV interview a few months ago, Black claims to be flexible enough to change his offensive patterns ..... I have doubts on his claims.
His stints with POP-COLA & SANTA LUCIA showed little changes from his SMB days ...... his ATENEO stints also had the same slowdown, deliberate half-court offense.
Still, TnT's lineup (assuming GILAS wont coincide much with the PBA sked) will always guarantee a quarterfinals slot, at the very least ..... regardless of who is coaching.
Good observation. Black will always look for his Big men to score. Same style during his Magnolia and SMC days when hel played center and had Noli Banate and Alvin Teng do the garbage cleaning and dirty jobs. Basketball has changed over the years. Seldom do we see post up plays in the PBA nowadays puros face basket frontal attack and 3 point shooting na just the way Ranidel de Ocampo is playing.
TNT will still make it to the semis but Black will find it difficult to implement his style with TNTs current roster unless he changes his style and just adapt to how the team is playing.
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any update or info on the imports that will suit up for the 3rd conference?
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the third conference starts today. unlike the third conference of season 36, there is no "common enemy" this conference since TnT no longer has a shot at a grand slam. good luck to all the teams...
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any update or info on the imports that will suit up for the 3rd conference?
I heard Rashad Mcants will play for Powerade.. He's still young, I remember their championship run in NCAA..
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I heard Rashad Mcants will play for Powerade.. He's still young, I remember their championship run in NCAA..
saw a glimpse of the petron powearde game, mukhang magaling nga yung import ng powerade
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saw a glimpse of the petron powearde game, mukhang magaling nga yung import ng powerade
sayang di ko napanuod yung game, pero magaling yun.. hinde lang nag click sa NBA..
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sayang di ko napanuod yung game, pero magaling yun.. hinde lang nag click sa NBA..
parang si dexter shouse ang dating eh slasher, bilis gumalaw
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I heard Rashad Mcants will play for Powerade.. He's still young, I remember their championship run in NCAA..
Uy magaling yan! I think 14th overall pick ng T-Wolves. Naging starter yan alongside Kevin Garnett. Legit NBA talent. Injury prone lang kaya di nagtagal sa NBA.
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Yup, McCants was a serious NBA prospect years back ...... unfortunate that his career didn't take off for various reasons.
As for PBA teams having ex-NBA players (specifically those with "long" contracts) as imports - it usually doesnt end up well.
Most of these ex-NBA players play passively ..... probably passing time until the next callback from the NBA or D-League ..... or worse, some play with a superiority-complex.
Some of the recent ex-NBA imports who've played passively e.g. Dermarr Johnson, Rodney White, etc ...... and the few worst, who played with a god-like complex e.g. Hassan Adams, Art Long, etc.
There has been exceptions, like Tony Lang, Lamont Strothers, Richie Frahm, etc ..... played as if they were on their last contract.
Some of the best imports from the past few years were unknown, non-NBA lottery players e.g. Gabe Freeman, Diamon Simpson, Denzel Bowles, Anthony Grundy, etc.
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Parang papuntang chem lab, hindi basketball court..;D
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just read in interaktv that Arboleda who was released by Barako was taken up by Petron. Petron then traded him for Duncil from Air 21. But Barako and Air 21 are both owned by Lina. Lina should have traded Arboleda to Petron instead of just releasing him allowing Petron to pick him up. Lina could then trade Duncil for Arboleda. Lumalabas tuloy na nakuha ng Petron ng walang kapalit si Duncil.
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@brainwashed
kaya pala... i remember readin somewhere that arboleda was relegated to the unrestricted free agent list. nagawan pala ng paraan ng petron na walang impact sa lineup nila...
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now that the NBA is over, siguro naman, mapapansin na ulit itong thread na ito. ;D
Retirement ceremony of The Living Legend is on July 8. this shows how the PBA regards jawo. he has practically retired in 1998(?)...yet the organization is giving him a ceremony where his jersey will be retired. AFAIK, he is the only player to be given such an honor.
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now that the NBA is over, siguro naman, mapapansin na ulit itong thread na ito. ;D
Retirement ceremony of The Living Legend is on July 8. this shows how the PBA regards jawo. he has practically retired in 1998(?)...yet the organization is giving him a ceremony where his jersey will be retired. AFAIK, he is the only player to be given such an honor.
The Big J certainly deserves any sports-related recognition he gets, late or otherwise ..... he was a driving force during the golden years of the PBA after all.
However, I seriously doubt that the retirement ceremony was initiated by the PBA Board ...... this ceremony is clearly a brainchild of the SMC bloc, specifically by Noli "Loverboy" Eala.
The ceremony brings some more boost to the SMC brand, aside from formally retiring Jaworski of course.
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Keep reading news that HARBOUR CENTER's Mikee Romero is pushing hard to have a PBA franchise by next season.
This should be good news for the PBA, as Mikee Romero seems a bit like ABI's Bong Tan from years ago ..... wealthy, young and driven to succeed at the pro ranks.
However, there's some negatives about this also ...... Romero has very close ties with the cheater owners of the PBA e.g. Lina, Pangilinan & Ang.
In fact, Romero already had majority control of a PBA franchise some years ago (BURGER KING) ..... a falling-out with MVP & Lina led to Romero relinquishing control and he has been scratching at the PBA's door ever since.
If HARBOUR CENTER is accepted as a new PBA franchise, it would be literally odd, since the PBA team count will be odd-numbered at 11.
I have a feeling that a current PBA franchise (POWERADE or ALASKA) will soon fold and Romero will just buy that franchise ..... which should be what Comm. Cheato Salud & the SMC bloc would want as an 11th team (new franchise) will be granted concessions to directly hire/elevate blue-chip rookies.
Note that SMC will have many high picks for the next few rookie drafts (courtesy of Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina of course) ...... and the rookie cast is exceptional with top locals (Fajardo, Slaughter, Abueva, etc), GILAS 2.0 & D-League Filams ....... SMC will always get the top players by hook or by crook. ;)
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Keep reading news that HARBOUR CENTER's Mikee Romero is pushing hard to have a PBA franchise by next season.
I have a feeling that a current PBA franchise (POWERADE or ALASKA) will soon fold and Romero will just buy that franchise ..... which should be what Comm. Cheato Salud & the SMC bloc would want as an 11th team (new franchise) will be granted concessions to directly hire/elevate blue-chip rookies.
Note that SMC will have many high picks for the next few rookie drafts (courtesy of Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina of course) ...... and the rookie cast is exceptional with top locals (Fajardo, Slaughter, Abueva, etc), GILAS 2.0 & D-League Filams ....... SMC will always get the top players by hook or by crook. ;)
been picking up that harbour center news too. IIRC, this is not mikee romero's first time to knock on the PBA doors. the PBA board reportedly welcomes the entry of HP and, basing from what i read, it would appear that HP will be the 11th team. however, it is still too early to tell and the possibility of HP being made to acquire the franchise of a folding team still looms. i agree with you that SMC teams have top picks in the coming draft. di papayag si lover boy nyan, for sure.
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mikee romero will be filing his application to join the league as an expansion team today. wait and see na lang tayo sa action ng PBA board...
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^ Like I said, being an expansion team (or a new franchise) would be advantageous to Mikee Romero since he can demand concessions to directly hire/elevate top rookies instead of going through the draft.
If this happens, it's bad news for the SMC bloc (and Cheato Salud) since they'll likely lose some collegiate & Filam prospects whom they've already set-up to be their future players ...... among them is highly-touted center Junmar Fajardo.
Junmar Fajardo did not join the last PBA rookie draft & instead signed-up for SMC's ABL squad ..... this clearly showed that Loverboy Eala was doing some big "setup" to ensure that Fajardo will remain with SMC even when he enters the PBA (since they have most of the top picks in the next few drafts).
Heck ....... even Fajardo's college coach, ex-pro Roel Gomez has been quoted that Fajardo will only enter the PBA draft if it's guaranteed that SMC will get him!
Walanghiya talaga ano ...... kahit wala pa sa PBA, tuloy lang ang pandaraya ni Noli Eala. ;D
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i'm not sure but afaik, smc owns some share in north harbour, majority nga lng sa romero.. :)
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just watched alaska and air21, what's up with air21, prang amateur ang mga naglalaro.. How do they even earn from pba, mukhang di naman nananalo..
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Jersey retirement ni Jaworksi, gaganapin sa Hulyo 8 (http://dzmm.abs-cbnnews.com/news/Sports/Jersey_retirement_ni_Jaworksi,_gaganapin_sa_Hulyo_8.html)
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BARAKO BULL recently lost it's knockout game to POWERADE ..... apparently, BARAKO BULL forward Don Allado doesn't think it's all good. ;D
Don Allado@alotofDON
I'm the guy that says what others can't. #PBA games are fixed. They control who is in & who is out. It's a disgrace to be in this league. I am bitter about losing. Not to Powerade, but to #PBA . In my opinion, this league has little credibility left. I feel for #BarakoRepubliq management. They put in time, effort & resources to form a competitive team like this only to be wasted by #PBA.
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at least he's bold enough to say it...
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^ Yup, Don Allado has always been one to speak his mind.
One thing I find funny though - Don Allado is ranting about a supposed fixed game ..... yet has never even ranted about the countless gross & blatant player selling to SMC/MVP, that his very team has done through the years.
Don Allado will surely get suspended a long time for this ..... PETRON Director este PBA Comm. Cheato Salud doesn't want anyone destroying the good name of the league. ;D
" What's the difference between our P350,000 with the other team's P350,000? " - ALASKA's Wilfred Uytengsu
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was not able to watch the game yesterday. ano injury ni gary david and ano status niya for today's game?
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kaya nakakatamad ng manuod ng PBA ngayon e.
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last night's game was really a badly officiated game and the referees were favoring Powerade.. the PBA has even suspended one of the referees in that game for the rest of the season.. they called hand check fouls against Barako but they let go pushes and shoves from Powerade.. they called offensive fouls on Danny Seigle when he's trying to get position in the post but when Anthony holds on and arm locks Seigle to prevent him from getting position, they let it go..
sure, Barako could have just played above that being a veteran team but when the referees are the ones that's preventing you from making a comeback, there really is nothing you can do.. that play where Sneed fell down in the paint and Allado stood over him so he can't get up, the referees should have made a call.. it was either a 3sec violation or a foul.. it should never have been a non-call.. it was a crucial non-call that ultimately decided the game..
and as for Allado, he should aim his tirades at some of his star teammates.. only him, Danny Seigle and Doug Kramer came out to play last night.. Willie Miller was pa-cute lang and Tubid focused more on flopping than actually playing defense..
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^ One can really see the exasperation & frustrated look on Danny Seigle's face whenever he goes on the court .... ever since he was "traded" by SMB to BARAKO BULL.
The fouls that used to be called on guys defending him, isn't there anymore ..... while, he and his team is usually at the wrong end of the calls during crucial matches.
Pity that Allado will be suspended for stating something very obvious ..... anyways, Allado might have already been contemplating retirement prior to his rants.
Note: Just a few days prior the the knockout game, PBA Comm. Cheato Salud had even proudly claimed that POWERADE is now the 4th most popular team in the league ...... convenient coincidence that POWERADE gets the calls during the match with BARAKO BULL.
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pati ba referee ng NBA ginagaya na din nga mga referee ng PBA.grabe!
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^ Yup, Don Allado has always been one to speak his mind.
One thing I find funny though - Don Allado is ranting about a supposed fixed game ..... yet has never even ranted about the countless gross & blatant player selling to SMC/MVP, that his very team has done through the years.[-b][-glow]
Don Allado will surely get suspended a long time for this ..... PETRON Director este PBA Comm. Cheato Salud doesn't want anyone destroying the good name of the league. ;D
" What's the difference between our P350,000 with the other team's P350,000? " - ALASKA's Wilfred Uytengsu
Sana nga may bumatikos dyan sa mga trades na yan.
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may bumabatikos naman tayong mga taga pdvd nga lang
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may appointment with Comm. Salud si Don Allado. possible ban in the making or a very hefty fine + suspension?
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may appointment with Comm. Salud si Don Allado. possible ban in the making or a very hefty fine + suspension?
Comm. Chito Salud is really pissed off to the tweets of Don Allado as per his interview by Quinito Henson last night. Paano pa kaya pag nabasa nya pa sa tabloid un headline na "PBA GAMES IS FIXED" i saw this one when im going to work kanina.
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sa tingin ko suspension lang yan with fine. si arboleda nga na nanakit ng fan naglalaro pa ngayon eh :-)
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Comm. Chito Salud is really pissed off to the tweets of Don Allado as per his interview by Quinito Henson last night. Paano pa kaya pag nabasa nya pa sa tabloid un headline na "PBA GAMES IS FIXED" i saw this one when im going to work kanina.
sa pagtagal eh papasok nanaman ang "senate inquiry" which will make things worse for the pba. mag drop nanaman ang patronage sa kanila just like what happened when the issue of the Fil-Shams went to the senate level.
with the case of arboleda, medyo mas light pa yun. ito kasing kay allado, integrity of the league ang na question. and may na suspend na referee na as initial action by the pba.
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ganun pa rin ba? nothin' new ;D
why not make it PBAe. ala wwe?
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so a P500,000 fine (P300K goes to Players' Educational Trust Fund and P200K to a charitable foundation of his choice) and 1 conference ban for Allado.. final and unappealable.. he should have just retired.. I just hope the officiating improves significantly after this..
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and i guess he will announce his retirement soon...
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Same gut feeling here ...... Don Allado might have already been contemplating retirement, when he made those rants.
IMO the 1-conference ban on Allado was sufficient enough ...... the 500K fine is just too much, since Allado won't be receiving salaries during the ban period.
I know of a hell lot more PBA personalities (e.g. N O L I E A L A) who deserves a lifetime PBA ban for ACTUALLY destroying the integrity of the sport .... not just the league.
Heck, the mofo was already disbarred by his own noble profession for being an immoral person.
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Funny that PBA Comm. Cheato Salud went down hard on Don Allado ..... who obviously was just ranting after a very bad loss, in which a ref was actually suspended for bad call/s ..... ika nga, naglabas nang sama nang loob bilang player na dehado sa tawagan.
Meanwhile, ALASKA team owner Steve Uytengsu (a much respected business leader & sports patron) has time and time again, challenged Salud to go hard after VERY OBVIOUS salary cap violators ...... doing VERY OBVIOUS player selling/buying.
What does Cheato Salud do? ..... wala.
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i feel for allado. masyado ata mabigat ung penalty sa kanya. although i understand why Cheato Salud imposed a very heavy penalty --- the integrity of the PBA, or the very little of what's left of it, was attacked by allado. parang defending his territory na lang si salud.
nakaka-awa si allado in his interview. in the verge of tears pa.
just thinking....paano kaya kung isang taga-SMC team ang nagsabi nun? would the same penalty be imposed???
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just thinking....paano kaya kung isang taga-SMC team ang nagsabi nun? would the same penalty be imposed???
Not likely ...... nambato nga nang bola sa mukha ang PETRON import - yet, Cheato Salud did not suspend the import like he did with other similar offenders.
I recall a Finals game between SMB and GINEBRA years ago ..... SMB lost that game, afterwards Danny Ildefonso was caught on camera shouting "Luto ..... Lutong Makaw!" over and over again ...... of course, no PBA official called him to explain.
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500k for 5 tweets...... :o @ 100k per tweet ;D
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and now, the PBA party list is pushing for a legislative inquiry into the game fixing allegation. election time! media mileage...
here's my take on the game fixing issue --- as far as I can see, i don't think there is game fixing in the PBA (the association). I just want to emphasize that this is just my personal view. However, as far as player movement manipulation is concerned, I believe that there is. in fact, it is very blatant. and the powers that be in the association is not doing anything about it. on the contrary, they are very much involved in it.
don allado will be dragged in it, definitely. and i don't think his recantation will change the minds of the PBA party list.
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damage done
time for damage control.
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Nice win by the ginebra over petron. Kumpletos rekados ang tribute nila para kay jawo. :)
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Never Say Die Inspired win by Barangay Ginebra...whewww muntik nakong atakehin dun ha? ngayon lang uli ako nakapanood ng ganong ka intense na laban, Sulit na sulit sa mga nakapanood ng live!
May nabibili nga bang Retro Jersey ng Ginebra? halos lahat ng audience e naka jawo jersey :)
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(http://i47.servimg.com/u/f47/16/97/44/48/jawo210.jpg)
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^dadami ulit manonood pag bumalik yan ;D
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buti na lang they BGK won the game... special night for jawo and ginebra and the PBA as a whole eh. buti na lang talaga they managed to pull that one off.
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^dadami ulit manonood pag bumalik yan ;D
isa na ako dun sir. ;D
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^dadami ulit manonood pag bumalik yan ;D
Nagpahaging na nga po Sir e ;)
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i do hope he comes back to coach ginebra again. siot is not doing a good job,especially on player rotation. jawo is known to be a master of motivating his players.
but more than that, i think jawo will stand his own ground. tingin ko hindi magpapa-gamit at hindi magpapa-uto kay lover boy yan. he is very particular with observing protocols. that's why he left ginebra in the first place.
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i do hope he comes back to coach ginebra again. siot is not doing a good job,especially on player rotation. jawo is known to be a master of motivating his players.
but more than that, i think jawo will stand his own ground. tingin ko hindi magpapa-gamit at hindi magpapa-uto kay lover boy yan. he is very particular with observing protocols. that's why he left ginebra in the first place.
Yup, Jaworski felt slighted when the Danding-boys were about to take over the BGK team e.g. Caidic, etc .... of course, by that time he was already committed to politics.
Siot actually did a good job during his first stint with BGK many years ago ...... back when BGK had a lean roster. He won a couple of championships for BGK, despite having an underdog lineup.
It's very obvious that Siot has difficulty handling an ultra-loaded roster (both top-heavy & deep) ...... same as Ato Agustin & Jong Uichico.
I can safely say that Jong Uichico has the most ming-boggling player rotation of all ..... which could explain why his protege Siot, has the same baffling rotations.
Tim Cone (and his then protege Chot Reyes) is the absolute master when handling a team, loaded or not ...... Cone will always keep his rotations fixed and tight w/ only 8-10 players playing ...... his championship resume speaks for itself.
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Back to Jaworski ...... it's definite that the PBA will see a positive spike in it's lagging audience, should Jawo come back to coaching.
Jawo was actually offered a head-coaching job a few years ago, by Bert Lina's FEDEX/AIR21 team ..... no one knows the exact reasons why he refused the offer then. Maybe he get's the itch back this time.
Should Jawo stay retired ...... IMO the best one who very closely approximates Jawo's coaching style (and who would make a very good fit) is kalbo himself .... Yeng Guiao.
In many ways, Guiao is actually superior to Jaworski's coaching skills.
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I really don't see him coaching anymore.. the SMC teams are being run by executives nowadays.. there's no way those people are ever going to let go of the power they have right now.. I see Jawo running for senator once again, though.. you'll probably be hearing his name in some of the parties' unofficial slates..
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Yup, Jaworski felt slighted when the Danding-boys were about to take over the BGK team e.g. Caidic, etc .... of course, by that time he was already committed to politics.
his entering politics was perfect timing. it overshadowed the "tampo" he had
Siot actually did a good job during his first stint with BGK many years ago ...... back when BGK had a lean roster. He won a couple of championships for BGK, despite having an underdog lineup.
siot's team indeed had a lean roster back then. but the core of that team is still there...except for menk who is a very far cry from the menk we saw back then. siot even suffered five consecutive losses to begin his career as head coach.
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Back to Jaworski ...... it's definite that the PBA will see a positive spike in it's lagging audience, should Jawo come back to coaching.
agree. ang lakas pa rin ng hatak nya sa tao. that was evident last sunday during his jersey retirement ceremony.
Should Jawo stay retired ...... IMO the best one who very closely approximates Jawo's coaching style (and who would make a very good fit) is kalbo himself .... Yeng Guiao.
In many ways, Guiao is actually superior to Jaworski's coaching skills.
skills, yes. but charisma? a big NO.
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skills, yes. but charisma? a big NO.
No one will ever top Jawo when it comes to charisma & crowd impact, both as a player and as a coach.
However, no one comes close to Guiao (and Jawo) when it comes to motivating unheralded players and getting results from a lean roster.
Yeng Guiao's perceived lack of charisma is largely a product of him being always on the opposite-side of the popular SMC teams.
He has always been a huge rival (with his then over-achieving RED BULL teams) of the past SMC teams ..... the popular-crowd will always go against the main obstacle e.g. Guiao, Cardona, etc.
I'm very sure the BGK crowd will roar in appreciation should historical thorns like Guiao, Cardona, etc somehow find themselves in the GINEBRA team ....... can't look any farther than Ronald Tubid for evidence.
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Jawo for PBA Commissioner! =)
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the gin kings are on a roll....and what a time for them to click.
i thought they will be using the retro uniform beginning last sunday..
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Magaganda laban mamaya...
RoS vs B-Meg
Ginebra vs TnT
Both games are very critical to the four teams. Sana makapanood.
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Magaganda laban mamaya...
RoS vs B-Meg
Ginebra vs TnT
Both games are very critical to the four teams. Sana makapanood.
:)
oo nga. the winner of the 1st game eh welcome to the finals na. the loser of the first game will have to slug it out with the winner of the 2nd game para sa 2nd finals slot =)
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** ROS needs to have a defining breakthrough win ...... a win today will get them a first-ever Finals slot ...... a win today, will also affirm that Yeng Guiao's no-star system remains relevant.
ROS will be hard-pressed to win though ...... earlier reports state that both Paul Lee and Jeff Chan are injured - if they ever play, they'll likely be limited on the court.
** The 2nd game should be a dandy ...... aside from the potential Finals stint, a loss for BGK will likely derail Mark Caguioa's MVP chances and win it for Gary David.
I cant recall any PBA MVP winner, not playing in any Finals during his MVP season.
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not a good way to leave the PBA for Chot Reyes.. a bad call took away the 2nd conference crown and just now, he lost to Ginebra by just 2 points.. that's gotta be tough to leave behind.. still, a good run for him..
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** ROS needs to have a defining breakthrough win ...... a win today will get them a first-ever Finals slot ...... a win today, will also affirm that Yeng Guiao's no-star system remains relevant.
ROS will be hard-pressed to win though ...... earlier reports state that both Paul Lee and Jeff Chan are injured - if they ever play, they'll likely be limited on the court.
** The 2nd game should be a dandy ...... aside from the potential Finals stint, a loss for BGK will likely derail Mark Caguioa's MVP chances and win it for Gary David.
I cant recall any PBA MVP winner, not playing in any Finals during his MVP season.
jeff chan played big yesterday and ROS is now in the finals.
bgk will slug it out with bmeg for the other finals slot. hopefully mc47 is able to get his game going against bmeg.
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jeff chan played big yesterday and ROS is now in the finals.
bgk will slug it out with bmeg for the other finals slot. hopefully mc47 is able to get his game going against bmeg.
Through the years, Tim Cone has generally done well in setting defenses to limit Mark Caguioa ..... the last two games against BMEG, Caguioa had some of his worst games this season.
If Siot doesn't think of something new (Caguioa usually receives the ball on top, where BMEG will limit him with quick double-teaming) ...... it'll be a long night for his team.
It's cliche' ..... but BGK just needs solid contributions from many guys, to win ..... like their big semis win against PETRON.
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Jeff Chan did play big ...... good for him & ROS that they finally made the PBA Finals. Anytime a non-SMC & MVP team does well, it's good news for the health of the sport (hehe .... dalawa na lang pala sila nang ALASKA).
However, if I were ROS, I'd prefer facing BGK than BMEG in the Finals ...... Tim Cone is very wise - should BMEG enter the Finals, he won't ever allow the same quick start by ROS to happen again.
IMO, BGK will be "easier" to deal with - just because Yeng Guiao almost always outcoaches Siot Tanquincen.
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Through the years, Tim Cone has generally done well in setting defenses to limit Mark Caguioa ..... the last two games against BMEG, Caguioa had some of his worst games this season.
If Siot doesn't think of something new (Caguioa usually receives the ball on top, where BMEG will limit him with quick double-teaming) ...... it'll be a long night for his team.
It's cliche' ..... but BGK just needs solid contributions from many guys, to win ..... like their big semis win against PETRON.
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Jeff Chan did play big ...... good for him & ROS that they finally made the PBA Finals. Anytime a non-SMC & MVP team does well, it's good news for the health of the sport (hehe .... dalawa na lang pala sila nang ALASKA).
However, if I were ROS, I'd prefer facing BGK than BMEG in the Finals ...... Tim Cone is very wise - should BMEG enter the Finals, he won't ever allow the same quick start by ROS to happen again.
IMO, BGK will be "easier" to deal with - just because Yeng Guiao almost always outcoaches Siot Tanquincen.
i hope ROS wins this conference. =)
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^ ROS will be the Finals underdog either way (BMEG or BGK) ..... last night's game showed that more than a few ROS players still get rattled nerves in the clutch.
Still, I'm with you ...... I also hope that ROS wins it's first one.
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Through the years, Tim Cone has generally done well in setting defenses to limit Mark Caguioa ..... the last two games against BMEG, Caguioa had some of his worst games this season.
If Siot doesn't think of something new (Caguioa usually receives the ball on top, where BMEG will limit him with quick double-teaming) ...... it'll be a long night for his team.
It's cliche' ..... but BGK just needs solid contributions from many guys, to win ..... like their big semis win against PETRON.
ginebra always has a hard time against b-meg. marc caguioa being stopped is not the only problem of bgk. siot can just make him a decoy for every ginebra play to set up the others. the other problem for ginebra is the other marc --- pingris. their last game showed this. they just can't seem to find the right match for him. the only thing i can think of to stop him is to get into his nerves. and kerby is the best guy to do that.
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ginebra always has a hard time against b-meg. marc caguioa being stopped is not the only problem of bgk. siot can just make him a decoy for every ginebra play to set up the others. the other problem for ginebra is the other marc --- pingris. their last game showed this. they just can't seem to find the right match for him. the only thing i can think of to stop him is to get into his nerves. and kerby is the best guy to do that.
nurse ba si kerby brader? ;D ;D ;D
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nurse ba si kerby brader? ;D ;D ;D
med tech. :P
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^ ROS will be the Finals underdog either way (BMEG or BGK) ..... last night's game showed that more than a few ROS players still get rattled nerves in the clutch.
Still, I'm with you ...... I also hope that ROS wins it's first one.
yeah, I agree on this, I like to see Lee win his first championship.. I like the guy, he knows how to make his teammates better, and he's very humble.. :)
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ginebra always has a hard time against b-meg. marc caguioa being stopped is not the only problem of bgk. siot can just make him a decoy for every ginebra play to set up the others. the other problem for ginebra is the other marc --- pingris. their last game showed this. they just can't seem to find the right match for him. the only thing i can think of to stop him is to get into his nerves. and kerby is the best guy to do that.
diko kasi napanood ng buo brader yung last game vs bmeg, di ba effective vs kay sakuragi si w. wilson or e. villanueva? pabantayan kaya kay BillyMama nang mabigyan? :D
yeah, I agree on this, I like to see Lee win his first championship.. I like the guy, he knows how to make his teammates better, and he's very humble.. :)
pwede next season na lang muna mag champion ROS? pag BGK pumasok sa Finals? pero pag BiikMEG, sige sa ROS ako :D :D :D
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diko kasi napanood ng buo brader yung last game vs bmeg, di ba effective vs kay sakuragi si w. wilson or e. villanueva? pabantayan kaya kay BillyMama nang mabigyan? :D
hindi eh. ping simply outwitted everyone thrown at him. ung pangbu-bwisit na lang talaga ni kerby ang katapat nya. i remember this during their semis series last conference. ping was ejected from the game and was suspended for the next game. sayang, wala na si tubid. if he were still there, dalawa sana silang magpapalitan ng pangbubuska kay ping. :P
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Knockout game tonight between BMEG & BGK.
Like I posted earlier, If I were ROS, I'd prefer BGK to win it - Tanquincen is shaky, while Tim Cone is usually money come Finals.
BGK needs good contributions from many guys to win ...... particularly Hatfield, Cortez, Villanueva & any of the young guns (Kerby in scoring-mode, has it's pros and cons ...... very erratic by clutch time).
A win tonight, will likely win the MVP for Caguioa ...... a loss, will likely win it for Gary David or James Yap (always the popular choice, but definitely not the right choice this year ...... Yap played horrible for many games of the season).
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pwede next season na lang muna mag champion ROS? pag BGK pumasok sa Finals? pero pag BiikMEG, sige sa ROS ako :D :D :D
haha,
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kampihan na !
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manalo-matalo, BGK ako. Madugong labanan 'to, sana walang mainjured gaya nung nangyari kay mc47 last conference BiikMEG din kalaban nila sa semis :'(
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Mark Caguioa on BMeg: Lintek lang ang walang ganti!
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ganda ng laban.bmeg wins by 2!
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Panget last 2 plays ng BGK, coming from a time-out, inubos ng import ng Gin Kings 'yung oras nila, tapos pinasa kay Kerby at ititira lang pala sa three points ni Kerby, 'yun ba ang denisenyong play ni Siot ???
Tapos with 2 seconds remaining sa Gin Kings ang bola score is 74 BMEG vs 72 BGK, coming from a time out ulit, binigay uli kay Kerby na double team sa three point line, pumeke, tumira... sablay, olats Gin Kings >:(
Pwede naman sa loob kunin 'yung two points, tapos galingan na lang sa overtime, pero parang walang kalatoy-latoy 'yung plays ng Ginebra.
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Ayus panalo Bmeg :D
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B-Meg it is. That was some game. Say what you will about SMC, but their teams really go all out against each other. Walang bigayan unlike Meralco and TNT. And B-Meg must really love Kerby now. ;D
So there goes Caguioa's MVP hopes. Pretty tough for him to win now. I still wish he gets it, though. Never been a fan of his but I think he deserves it this time. Gary David was good this season but 2 conferences where he didn't lead his team past the elims is not an MVP performance for me. I just wish they won't give it to James Yap. B-Meg is having a great season because they have a great coach who knows how to use a good set of players.
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Petron owns the 1st pick For 2012 PBA Rookie Draft via Air 21. Aba fully pack star players na ang petron dadagdagan pa ng 1st pick na to. Most likely petron will get fajardo if he will submit his papers before the aug 3 deadline.
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Petron owns the 1st pick For 2012 PBA Rookie Draft via Air 21. Aba fully pack star players na ang petron dadagdagan pa ng 1st pick na to. Most likely petron will get fajardo if he will submit his papers before the aug 3 deadline.
Pati ata 3rd pick kanila din.
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Pati ata 3rd pick kanila din.
sa kanila na lang kaya lahat!hahahahaha
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will they get fajardo over hodges? parang mas gusto ko yung hodges parang mas may immediate impact sa kahit anong team
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will they get fajardo over hodges? parang mas gusto ko yung hodges parang mas may immediate impact sa kahit anong team
I agree ;)
at may angas ;D
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** Tsk tsk tsk ..... like I've been harping on for the longest time - SMC teams are ultra-loaded with name players YET still be able to obtain high draft picks year after year after year.
SMC has Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina & George "Original Pimp" Chua to thank ...... of course, no thanks needed when millions exchange hands (e.g. Arwind Santos for P20M).
Just this season, SMC somehow ended up with 7/10 first-round draft picks (Casio, Lutz, Lassiter, Barroca, Maliksi, Cervantes & Ababou) ..... of course, SMC will make it appear that Casio & Cervantes are with rival teams .... for now.
It's an open secret that both POWERADE (confirmed by a signed document) and BARAKO BULL are SMC-owned and operated.
** Fajardo will end up with an SMC team this draft or the next ..... even his college coach Roel Gomez stated as much - Fajardo will only enter the draft if SMC owns the spot to draft him.
** Also .... here's one more guarantee that SMC wont ever lack for players again.
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/lito-alvarez-back-at-the-helm-of-air-21-trade-in-the-works
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will they get fajardo over hodges? parang mas gusto ko yung hodges parang mas may immediate impact sa kahit anong team
how about Slaughter? reserved na ba sya for TNT?
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how about Slaughter? reserved na ba sya for TNT?
TnT or Meralco =)
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Slaughter may well end up with a TnT or MERALCO ....... but it would likely come via trade (a.k.a. player selling) from Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina of course.
The MVP teams has had no top picks (even for the next few drafts), owing to TnT being a regular top-finisher and MERALCO's previous trades e.g. Taulava, Borboran, Macapagal, Ballesteros, Mercado, etc.
Meanwhile, SMC has cornered most of the top picks for the next few drafts (courtesy of the aforementioned Pimp Daddy).
It's not far-fetched that the MVP camp will emulate the blatant "set-up" that SMC is doing with elite big Junmar Fajardo.
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Slaughter will be probably the 1st draft pick when he apply on PBA.
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Slaughter will be probably the 1st draft pick when he apply on PBA.
If he is 23 then he is eligible, but he needs more muscle, kakatawanin lang sya sa PBA.. mas excited ako pag si parks na ang nag PBA.. :)
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If he is 23 then he is eligible, but he needs more muscle, kakatawanin lang sya sa PBA.. mas excited ako pag si parks na ang nag PBA.. :)
the same thing was said about Ildefonso but we al know he has excelled
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If he is 23 then he is eligible, but he needs more muscle, kakatawanin lang sya sa PBA.. mas excited ako pag si parks na ang nag PBA.. :)
Parang japeth aguilar ba? :D
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the same thing was said about Ildefonso but we al know he has excelled
I don't think we can compare him to Danny I bro, because during his NU days he already has the moves, the pivot, I heard he was once called bigger Patrimonio, kahit walng good backcourt support.. Slaughter has Ravena, who knows how to make his teammates more involve, then there's Buenafe who also dishes, Salva who can also draw attention, he needs to develop more than waiting for a drop pass or offensive rebounds..
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Parang japeth aguilar ba? :D
iba kasi laro ni Japhet bro, lumaki sya ng facing the basket hindi lowpost game.. umaasa sya tuloy sa jumping ability nya, alleyoops and putback.. kung maging Kerby Raymundo type lang sya, eh di baka may first NBA player na pinoy na, hehe. :)
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if Japeth played like Kerby, lalo siyang hindi makakalaro sa NBA.. ;D
and about Slaughter, I don't think he has to worry about being pushed out of the post so easily.. the guy can bang bodies with anyone in the PBA.. he showed that already nung naglaro ang Gilas as guest team last year.. besides, there aren't enough big men in the PBA anymore.. wala ng kakatawan sa kanya by the time he enters the league..
what Slaughter needs is to polish his post game.. drop steps and fakes are very effective tools for a big man.. usually kasi, dinadaan niya lang sa lakas.. if he can't back down a defender, wala na.. kick out na lang.. that's actually what has disappeared sa big men in the PBA.. Ildefonso was the last real post player to come out of the amateurs.. you can see some glimpses of a post game in Sonny Thoss but it's mostly stregth based and not footwork..
I'm actually looking forward to the entry of both Slaughter and Fajardo.. both big guys can really play with their backs to the basket.. Slaughter has an edge in experience but Fajardo looks more comfortable at the post.. Fajardo, though, hasn't been challenged much in his career..
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If he is 23 then he is eligible, but he needs more muscle, kakatawanin lang sya sa PBA.. mas excited ako pag si parks na ang nag PBA.. :)
and rayray parks is a fil-am. kaya no issues on his citizenship.
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I wonder who will be the season MVP now that Caguiao won the last two Best Player of the Conference...
Gary David made it to the finals once but failed to get pass elimination round I think for 2 conferences.
Mark Caguiao never made it to the finals this season but made the semi-finals twice.
As far as I can recall wala pang naging MVP na hindi nakarating ng finals in the 3 conferences...
I wonder kung ibibigay kay James Yap ;D
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Nope, can't recall an MVP never making it to any Finals ...... though if they ever award it to Caguioa, the players votes will likely spell the difference (SMC & Lina teams has been bloc-voting for the longest time now).
Not that Caguioa isn't deserving ...... I find David a tad bit more deserving, owing to his historing scoring blitz this year (not just on volume, but his FG% in long stretches has improved) ...... also, David has the much "weaker" team to carry, compared to Caguioa's loaded crew.
Should James Yap win the MVP ...... it would be a travesty. Yap has been playing subpar most of this season - so much so that PJ Simon has carried them in many games this season (1st & 2nd conferences).
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BGK's Caguioa wins the MVP ..... first ever PBA MVP to have never entered a Finals during his MVP year.
I had slightly favored Gary David (over Caguioa) to win due to his historic scoring blitz, with a nice FG% to boot ...... everyone watching David this season, saw his jumpers as near automatic.
As expected, votes are what carried Caguioa ..... he and James Yap (WTF?) were the runaway leaders in player votes ..... David was a very distant third.
By the way, JJ Helterbrand was the only PBA MVP to have never won a championship during his MVP year.
Shouldn't it be obvious to everyone (except for Comm. Salud, of course) that the SMC and Lina teams has been bloc-voting for the longest time now? ...... that's already half of the PBA right there.
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Well, at least they didn't pull-off the kind of crap they did on ALASKA import Diamon Simpson two years ago ..... SMC's Gabe Freeman won the Best Import award over Simpson.
It was obvious to many that Simpson was the top import that year ..... what lost it for him was a known SMC-media lackey casting no 2nd place vote for Simpson - which gave him a ZERO on the numbers tally ..... the funny part is, this lackey had no problems giving out 2nd place votes to other award categories.
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BGK's Caguioa wins the MVP ..... first ever PBA MVP to have never entered a Finals during his MVP year.
I had slightly favored Gary David (over Caguioa) to win due to his historic scoring blitz, with a nice FG% to boot ...... everyone watching David this season, saw his jumpers as near automatic.
As expected, votes are what carried Caguioa ..... he and James Yap (WTF?) were the runaway leaders in player votes ..... David was a very distant third.
By the way, JJ Helterbrand was the only PBA MVP to have never won a championship during his MVP year.
Shouldn't it be obvious to everyone (except for Comm. Salud, of course) that the SMC and Lina teams has been bloc-voting for the longest time now? ...... that's already half of the PBA right there.
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Well, at least they didn't pull-off the kind of crap they did on ALASKA import Diamon Simpson two years ago ..... SMC's Gabe Freeman won the Best Import award over Simpson.
It was obvious to many that Simpson was the top import that year ..... what lost it for him was a known SMC-media lackey casting no 2nd place vote for Simpson - which gave him a ZERO on the numbers tally ..... the funny part is, this lackey had no problems giving out 2nd place votes to other award categories.
I believe Benjie Paras won his first of two MVPs without winning a championship. This was during his rookie year making him the first and so far, the only rookie of the year-MVP winner. He won over Ramon Fernandez, who led SMC to its grandslam. Fernandez had a big lead in the statistical points but lost in the media votes due to Ronnie Nathanielz's lobbying for Paras.
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^ Apologies ..... what I meant was, since the time that SMC had multiple teams. Bloc voting has been very obvious since this point.
I have little issue with Caguioa winning this year (Yap winning would have been a travesty though) ..... him or David winning it would be okay, since they're the clear top 2 ..... carried their respective teams this year.
However, it would be "nice" the PBA (Commish, Board or whoever) at least try to institute changes to have a level playing field during the year-end awards ...... some awardees since this new PBA age have been quite perplexing .......e.g BGK's John Wilson winning a Defensive Team award a year back
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Just wow ....... Marc Pingris went after Ryan Arana with a head-butt (to the chest) and a closed-fist (above the shoulder).
Pingris retaliated after being on the receiving end of some rough defense ..... nothing overly excessive, it is the Finals.
Once more, the refs make an "interesting" call ..... Pingris get's called for a simple FF1 instead of the obvious FF2 (any hit above the shoulder is FF2) ...... Pingris gets saved from being thrown-out of the game and (might be) spared from the 1-game suspension that comes from getting an FF2 call.
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^actually, FFP2 doesn't carry an automatic suspension anymore.. binago dahil dun sa landing spot rule.. and reviewable naman yun eh.. it can be upgraded to FFP2..
anyway, the Coke franchise has officially been sold to Mikee Romero.. Perasol has already accepted the coaching job for Ateneo next year.. there will probably be a dispersal draft for the Powerade players..
also, coaching changes are in the offing for Petron and Ginebra.. Alfrancis Chua is said to be taking over Ginebra.. for Petron, it's either Rajko Toroman or Olsen Racela..
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Alfrancis Chua? Nakakuha na naman ng trabaho tong mokong na to. Rajko Toroman? Di ako bilib sa kanya at ang daming pinoy coaches na magaling. Yan ang pangit sa SMC ngayon, aside from the players pati mga coach napakabilis palitan at tanggalin. >:(
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Toroman's hiring months ago was a precursor of things to come ....... it's either Tanquincen or Agustin who'll be replaced by Toroman ...... for obvious reasons, Tim Cone will remain with BMEG.
I myself am not a firm believer of Toroman ....... he does preach some nice basics & discipline - but give Yeng Guiao (and a few other local coaches) the same GILAS extended training period plus the luxury of having Douthit ..... they'll produce some success as well.
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Since Harbour Corp. is now in the PBA, expect Jorge Gallent to return to Romero's fold ...... like I posted earlier, Romero's arrival is a double-edged sword ...... it's good that a young, aggressive guy like Romero gets to run his own PBA team ....... however, Romero is a known close-ally of both the MVP & SMC camps (had even control of BURGER KING years ago, before a falling out with MVP himself) ..... hope he runs a strong independent, contending team - not unlike the Pimp Daddy Lina.
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Bo Perasol is one lucky guy ...... he's been one of the most inept head coaches in recent PBA history. He was just lucky to have ridden a historic Gary David scoring run this season .... plus the arrival of blue-chippers Casio & Lassiter.
I was hoping that somebody like Sandy Arespacochaga gets to be elevated head-coach of ADMU ..... ADMU has been successful with their half-court setups & the "Norman Black" defenses ...... Sandy has long been Black's assistant (aside from playing for the junior & senior teams) and should be ready for a head-coaching stint.
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i don't think there will be a dispersal draft for powerade since he will make the team competitive. expect jerwin gaco to be reunited with Mikee romero soon and other former harbour centre players
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Just wow ....... Marc Pingris went after Ryan Arana with a head-butt (to the chest) and a closed-fist (above the shoulder).
Pingris retaliated after being on the receiving end of some rough defense ..... nothing overly excessive, it is the Finals.
Once more, the refs make an "interesting" call ..... Pingris get's called for a simple FF1 instead of the obvious FF2 (any hit above the shoulder is FF2) ...... Pingris gets saved from being thrown-out of the game and (might be) spared from the 1-game suspension that comes from getting an FF2 call.
Pingris was initially assessed a flagrant foul-penalty 1 but the infraction was upgraded by Salud to
FF2.
http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/1748 (http://www.pba.ph/news/entry/1748)
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^ Well that's the obvious call ..... should have been FF2 in the first place, since it was a head-butt and a very clear closed-fist to Arana's head ..... the refs or technical committee should be "re-oriented" on the rules.
News reports say that Pingris wont play tonight anyway, due to a bad stiff neck ...... some measure of justice here. Still, with or without Pingris, I give BMEG the slight edge tonight to further extend the Finals.
Pingris has been playing passive the past few games ...... that ROS frontline is limiting his effectivity. His absence might spur someone else from BMEG to step-up in his place.
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Comm. Cheato Salud has been making very inconsistent FF2 rulings since his term started .....
Just a few conferences ago, an ALASKA import was poked in the eye (no call from the refs) and protected the ball with his forearm, inadvertently hitting an opponent in the neck - he was given an FF2, thrown-out of the game and suspended the next game ("you get an FF2, you're suspended" sayeth Salud).
The next few conferences saw very dangerous fouls to the head from a couple of PETRON players (during a series with TnT) ..... a PETRON import & BMEG player throwing the basketball to the face of an opponent ...... all without suspensions from Cheato Salud.
Makes you wonder what BMEG's Tim Cone thinks of all of this.
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so, b-meg lives to fight another night. tomorrow's game will be interesting. should ROS tomorrow, there is a very big possibility that b-meg will clinch it on sunday.
on another note, i just thought......would the Big J be a better choice as head coach of the national team? he had the least number of days to prepare for the Asian games, with the least superstars in his team. yet, he managed to bag the silver medal. IIRC, he had only two weeks to prepare his hand-picked team.
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^ Jaworski did great when he last handled the Natl Team ...... but that was years ago - the patterns & players now are much more scientific ...... the Big J might not have the sharpness for it, even with an extended training period.
Much as I despise Chot Reyes, he's probably the best local coach to handle the Natl Team now ...... he has fine-tuned the dribble drive offense and just might get us some wins in the international scene.
More than the coach, it's the quality of players that's way more crucial ...... it would have been great to retain players such as Lutz, Lassiter, etc ...... the addition of standout pros such as James Yap would have been great ....... seems like the the SMC-MVP wars have breached even national pride as SMC has refused participation of some of it's star players to the GILAS 2.0 pool.
Surprisingly, only one SMC player was "allowed" to accept the GILAS 2.0 pool ...... Enrico Villanueva - which was a surprising pick by Reyes to begin with.
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^ Jaworski did great when he last handled the Natl Team ...... but that was years ago - the patterns & players now are much more scientific ...... the Big J might not have the sharpness for it, even with an extended training period.
Much as I despise Chot Reyes, he's probably the best local coach to handle the Natl Team now ...... he has fine-tuned the dribble drive offense and just might get us some wins in the international scene.
good point. and i have to agree, especially considering the Jawo has been out of the basketball scene for a long time.
and yes, as much as i despise Chot Reyes too, he is, at present, the best man for the job.
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Sana hindi na lang nastroke si Coach Ron Jacobs :'( He is the best man for the job sana.
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Sana hindi na lang nastroke si Coach Ron Jacobs :'( He is the best man for the job sana.
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Jacobs & Jaworski were the standout coaches for past National Teams .......
However, same as Jaworski, so much time has passed by that even a healthy Ron Jacobs would be running outdated patterns ..... Jacobs' slowdown motion-offense has long been passe' in pro basketball - evidence being Uichico & Tanquincen's poor PBA coaching records for many seasons now ..... not to mention the early exits of Favis & Altamirano.
IMO the best bet for us now, would be very quick movement & passing - something which even a Yeng Guiao was able to see & exploit ...... during the last PBA-backed Natl Team in 2010, Cyrus Baguio was the clear-cut best player since Guiao gave him the green-light to run & gun.
That Yeng Guiao-team gave some top opponents a scare before bowing out.
Like I said, the much-despised Chot Reyes appears to be the best man for the job, right now ...... or if MVP can afford it - maybe he can pry Mike D'Antoni from the US Natl Team. ;D
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maybe James Yap should have been ejected on the game for punching Jireh Ibanes of ROS.
...Gabe Norwood - 0 point. tsk tsk
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it's make or break for ROS tonight. if they don't get it tonight, they could kiss the trophy goodbye....but i hope they get it tonight.
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Toroman's hiring months ago was a precursor of things to come ....... it's either Tanquincen or Agustin who'll be replaced by Toroman ...... for obvious reasons, Tim Cone will remain with BMEG.
I myself am not a firm believer of Toroman ....... he does preach some nice basics & discipline - but give Yeng Guiao (and a few other local coaches) the same GILAS extended training period plus the luxury of having Douthit ..... they'll produce some success as well.
forget yeng guiao,the last time he coached a national team,we finished an embarassing 8th place.i think that's the worst finish for our national team composed of pba players.he was widely criticized then for not including alapag in the line up.some foreign coaches even wondered why he was not included.
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it's make or break for ROS tonight. if they don't get it tonight, they could kiss the trophy goodbye....but i hope they get it tonight.
wala si ping brader, let us see kung anong strategy ni guiao especially for his frontliners. Sayang si Norwood, mismatched sana sa position nya if only marunong or effective sya sa post. :-X
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forget yeng guiao,the last time he coached a national team,we finished an embarassing 8th place.i think that's the worst finish for our national team composed of pba players.he was widely criticized then for not including alapag in the line up.some foreign coaches even wondered why he was not included.
Just wanted to point out the Toroman isn't all that he's cracked-up to be ..... MVP probably saw the same, hence replacing him with Chot Reyes (who is the best choice right now).
Give Yeng Guiao the same GILAS line-up that Toroman had and the same extended preparation time ...... he'll produce similar results as Toroman.
I agree that Alapag's exclusion was a bad call ..... Guiao had his reasons.
However, give him full credit though - his inclusion of Cyrus Baguio was met with doubters as well ...... Baguio turned out to be best player of that Natl Team ..... Guiao allowing Baguio to fastbreak, showed that a fast-paced game just might get us closer to our Asian rivals.
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Guiao allowing Baguio to fastbreak, showed that a fast-paced game just might get us closer to our Asian rivals.
exactly Sir! with china's giant line up, there's no way na kakayanin ng nat'l team natin na makipagsabayan sa ilalim, unless na magaya din natin yung playing style sa europe wherein bigmen are mobile & can really finish fastbreaks.
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wala si ping brader, let us see kung anong strategy ni guiao especially for his frontliners. Sayang si Norwood, mismatched sana sa position nya if only marunong or effective sya sa post. :-X
they should exploit ping's absence. Norwood is not really a post player, he's much more of a wingman talaga. kaya we should not expect him to post-up. mas effective sya outside and coming from the outside.
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Someone from ROS should rise-up and be a star just for this game ...... carry his team, the way James Yap carried BMEG last game.
If ROS doesn't finish it tonight ...... I'll give them a very small chance of winning a Game 7.
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Someone from ROS should rise-up and be a star just for this game ...... carry his team, the way James Yap carried BMEG last game.
If ROS doesn't finish it tonight ...... I'll give them a very small chance of winning a Game 7.
agree. it's now or never for them. they should stop relying heavily on Norwood alone.
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Yup, it's now or never for ROS ....... finish it now or face a very-experienced BMEG in a Game 7.
Though Yeng Guiao's system has never required a "face" to lead his teams, it would be good if Gabe Norwood shows up soon ...... Norwood has been one of the most disappointing PBA players for the past few years now (even ROS' team owners has stated as much).
He is ROS' lone maximum-salary player ....... yet I can count 10 other ROS players usually performing better than him ....... he is athletic as hell and passive as hell also.
It seems like the trade of his friend Sol Mercado greatly affected his effectiveness ..... it has been a slow downhill slide for him, after his rookie season.
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similar to renren ritualo, during his amateur days, he is shooting the lights out everywehere but he is a very big dissapointment when he turned pro, touted to be as a franchise player but became a journeyman and plays like a regular player.
at his height and athleticism, norwood would have taken to school all of his defender but he has not shown anything for the past couple of years
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similar to renren ritualo, during his amateur days, he is shooting the lights out everywehere but he is a very big dissapointment when he turned pro, touted to be as a franchise player but became a journeyman and plays like a regular player.
at his height and athleticism, norwood would have taken to school all of his defender but he has not shown anything for the past couple of years
Yup, Ritualo does belong among the disappointing current pros ..... e.g. Norwood, Intal, Enrico Villanueva (post-Yeng Guiao), etc.
Aside from long-range shooting ...... Ritualo seems to have never bothered to develop the other aspects of a SG's game.
Rarely do we see him fake shooting a three to throw-off the defense, then take a few steps closer and shoot an open 2-pointer ...... rarely do we see him go for a lay-up (honestly) - the few times he does go for a layup, he looks like crap ..... he doesn't have that soft, tear-drop shot which is essential for today's SG.
It's like he's content with being a more famous version of Roel Gomez ..... sayang.
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Just wanted to point out the Toroman isn't all that he's cracked-up to be ..... MVP probably saw the same, hence replacing him with Chot Reyes (who is the best choice right now).
Give Yeng Guiao the same GILAS line-up that Toroman had and the same extended preparation time ...... he'll produce similar results as Toroman.
I agree that Alapag's exclusion was a bad call ..... Guiao had his reasons.
However, give him full credit though - his inclusion of Cyrus Baguio was met with doubters as well ...... Baguio turned out to be best player of that Natl Team ..... Guiao allowing Baguio to fastbreak, showed that a fast-paced game just might get us closer to our Asian rivals.
i dont get it,you want to give full credit to yeng guiao who had the best players in his line up at that time (except for alapag of course) yet he finished a dismal 8th place at the fiba championship.but wont do the same with rajko who had a mixture of college players,4 pba players,2 fil ams and a naturalized filipino and yet he finished a decent 4th place at fiba.
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it's not totally Ritualo's fault what happened in his career.. he was very good when he was with Air21.. he wasn't just a 3pt. shooter there.. he was Perasol's Gary David then at Air21.. nung nagsimula ng magbenta ng players ang Air21 to MVP and SMC teams, Ritualo was the first casualty..
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may nasabi pa nga ata dati si caidic na if ever may tatalo sa record nya sa 3 points eh malamag si ritualo yun
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Toroman was booted out of the national team not because he wasn't good but because he wasn't an MVP man.. he was a Noli Eala hire.. there was a fallout with the 2 and Toroman was collateral damage.. tapos Black wanted back in the PBA.. he can't let go of Chot because he was winning so created a vacancy at Gilas para happy yung coaches nya pareho.. it's still all politics sa Philippine basketball..
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it's not totally Ritualo's fault what happened in his career.. he was very good when he was with Air21.. he wasn't just a 3pt. shooter there.. he was Perasol's Gary David then at Air21.. nung nagsimula ng magbenta ng players ang Air21 to MVP and SMC teams, Ritualo was the first casualty..
I'd say Ritualo's best years was with TnT ..... when he had a powerhouse cast to play with.
Just disappointing, since Ritualo never developed any other facets of the game other than the long-ball ..... e.g. a less-heralded Ronald Tubid developed into a decent shooter and an even better isolation defender .... a 4th round pick (or 5th round) PJ Simon turned out to be a great SG reliever and starter ..... etc.
He had stops with MERALCO & POWERADE - any time teams like these drop you, tells a whole lot about the quality of your game.
He's now with his old coach in SHOPINAS (AIR21) ..... still he doesnt stand-out (except for a stretch this conference) among a team of retreads and rookies .... sayang.
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sayang nga si ritualo. he was even touted as the next allan caidic, and this is not without any basis. he is really deadly from the outside, la salle days pa lang. but then, as sir newwaveboy pointed out, he did not evolve and was content with just shooting from beyond the arc. if that is your only style of play, it is very easy to defend you. your opponent will simply deny you the ball and you're dead meat. and there must be plays specifically designed for you. i can relate to that...ganyan din kasi nangyari sa akin sa team namin. and yes, he looks awkward when he lays-up.
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i dont get it,you want to give full credit to yeng guiao who had the best players in his line up at that time (except for alapag of course) yet he finished a dismal 8th place at the fiba championship.but wont do the same with rajko who had a mixture of college players,4 pba players,2 fil ams and a naturalized filipino and yet he finished a decent 4th place at fiba.
I give credit to Guiao for finally recognizing that fast movement (and scoring) will be our best avenue to even challenging our Asian rivals - regardless of the poor finish ..... who knew that a surprise pick in Baguio would turn out to be one of the stand-out SG's of that tournament.
Don't get me wrong, Toroman did a great job with GILAS ..... like I said, he preaches the correct basics for international play - fast-ball movement, cuts, a shooter at the corner or top of the key, etc ....... but he had all the advantages of a very long prep time - not to mention having one of the best "Asian" player (if not, the best) in Marcus Douthit.
Also, it's not as if the college standouts & Filams that GILAS got were your average, normal rookies ....... Lassiter, Lutz, Casio, Ababou, Baracael & Barroca are clear standouts during this entire PBA season .... I'd even say that a few them are some of the best at their position, right now.
Give Yeng Guiao the same conditions, I'd say he approximates the results.
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Also, it's not as if the college standouts & Filams that GILAS got were your average, normal rookies ....... Lassiter, Lutz, Casio, Ababou, Baracael & Barroca are clear standouts during this entire PBA season .... I'd even say that a few them are some of the best at their position, right now.
Give Yeng Guiao the same conditions, I'd say he approximates the results.
of course,kaya naman sila pinili sa national team kasi magagaling talaga yan sa college,pero compare them naman dun sa pinagpilian at napili ni yeng guiao na mga pba players who are at their peek of their careers at that time.and yes,magaganda pinapakita ng mga former national players nagyun i'd say because of their exposure sa high level of international play and due to toroman's guidance.
you mean to say if yeng guiao coached this college standouts he will get the same results?if yeng can't do it with those players who are considered the best at that time how would he do it with a bunch of young college and fil am players.baka malamang nag shift na ng careers yung iba dyan from basketball to urcc or rugby
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I'd say Ritualo's best years was with TnT ..... when he had a powerhouse cast to play with.
Just disappointing, since Ritualo never developed any other facets of the game other than the long-ball ..... e.g. a less-heralded Ronald Tubid developed into a decent shooter and an even better isolation defender .... a 4th round pick (or 5th round) PJ Simon turned out to be a great SG reliever and starter ..... etc.
He had stops with MERALCO & POWERADE - any time teams like these drop you, tells a whole lot about the quality of your game.
He's now with his old coach in SHOPINAS (AIR21) ..... still he doesnt stand-out (except for a stretch this conference) among a team of retreads and rookies .... sayang.
I think Ritualo would disagree that his best years were with TNT.. he used to have a number of 30pt games while with Fedex.. he was the main man there.. his minutes were increasing as the years went on but nung nalipat siya sa TNT, bumaba yung minutes niya.. he once scored 27pts in the 4th quarter alone while he was with Fedex.. nung nasa Fedex/Air21 pa si Perasol, Ritualo was his Gary David.. he used to run the same plays for Ren-Ren.. when Ritualo moved to TNT, he was relegated to just a spot-up shooter..
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I think Ritualo would disagree that his best years were with TNT.. he used to have a number of 30pt games while with Fedex.. he was the main man there.. his minutes were increasing as the years went on but nung nalipat siya sa TNT, bumaba yung minutes niya.. he once scored 27pts in the 4th quarter alone while he was with Fedex.. nung nasa Fedex/Air21 pa si Perasol, Ritualo was his Gary David.. he used to run the same plays for Ren-Ren.. when Ritualo moved to TNT, he was relegated to just a spot-up shooter..
that's right nung nasa tnt sya andun sila cardona,alapag and ranidel who also loves to shoot from the outside.2nd stringer na lang sya madalas dun sa tnt eh.i believe dun nawala yung kumpyansa sa tnt due to lack of playing time.
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I think Ritualo would disagree that his best years were with TNT.. he used to have a number of 30pt games while with Fedex.. he was the main man there.. his minutes were increasing as the years went on but nung nalipat siya sa TNT, bumaba yung minutes niya.. he once scored 27pts in the 4th quarter alone while he was with Fedex.. nung nasa Fedex/Air21 pa si Perasol, Ritualo was his Gary David.. he used to run the same plays for Ren-Ren.. when Ritualo moved to TNT, he was relegated to just a spot-up shooter..
Agreed that stats-wise, it was FEDEX/AIR21 ..... those formative years, he just chucked away, but never did attempted to vary his game (about as worst coach to start your pro career with, Perasol).
IMO he was clearly at his most effective when he was with TnT ...... he got efficient shots due to the attention to his more famous teammates ..... plus, can't argue with winning your lone PBA championship.
Sayang .... he got his chances with a very weak POWERADE (hehe, Perasol again) and a rookie team MERALCO (Gregorio, who just loves scorers) ..... even with arguably the worst team in PBA history, SHOPINAS, he still doesnt stand-out.
I'm actually a fan of the kid ..... cold-blooded and clutch as hell (thanks to many Cortez setups) during his UAAP career ..... gave many heart-breaks Espana's way, but cant help but root for him when he turned pro.
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you mean to say if yeng guiao coached this college standouts he will get the same results?if yeng can't do it with those players who are considered the best at that time how would he do it with a bunch of young college and fil am players.baka malamang nag shift na ng careers yung iba dyan from basketball to urcc or rugby
Yup ...... rookies Lutz & Lassiter are special talents, they're among the top in their positions right now.
When healthy, Casio is about a tad bit below the class of Castro, Cabagnot & Tenorio ...... even Tim Cone recognizes Barocca's talent level - letting the kid play in Q4's of big games.
Ababou and Baracael are very decent in their positions ..... right now.
Give these kids a long time to train ...... Guiao can approximate the results.
Let's not forget one of Asia's best player right now ...... Douthit.
You get this guy, you'll compete every time.
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Agreed that stats-wise, it was FEDEX/AIR21 ..... those formative years, he just chucked away, but never did attempted to vary his game (about as worst coach to start your pro career with, Perasol).
IMO he was clearly at his most effective when he was with TnT ...... he got efficient shots due to the attention to his more famous teammates ..... plus, can't argue with winning your lone PBA championship.
Sayang .... he got his chances with a very weak POWERADE (hehe, Perasol again) and a rookie team MERALCO (Gregorio, who just loves scorers) ..... even with arguably the worst team in PBA history, SHOPINAS, he still doesnt stand-out.
I'm actually a fan of the kid ..... cold-blooded and clutch as hell (thanks to many Cortez setups) during his UAAP career ..... gave many heart-breaks Espana's way, but cant help but root for him when he turned pro.
actually, his game at Fedex/Air21 was more than just shooting.. he wasn't just the catch and shoot guy.. sa TNT siya naging one-dimensional kasi yun lang yung hiningi sa kanya.. he used to slash when he was with Fedex.. and he was even deadlier with his step-back jumpers and one-dribble pull-ups.. but that was all gone when he moved to TNT.. they just asked him to spot up and shoot.. you can't blame the guy for just doing what he's told..
and sure, he won a title with TNT but if you remember him during that season, most of the time, he just played when the game was out of reach already.. he wasn't a major contributor on that team.. kahit wala siya dun, TNT still would have won that title..
he was peaking when he got traded to TNT.. and then he got grounded.. if the Lina's were not in the business of selling players, Ritualo would have been the next Allan Caidic.. sayang, kasi his peak years were spent languishing on the bench of TNT..
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our discussions on renren all boils down to one thing --- he is one talent gone to waste, due to a convergence of reasons. not evolving as a player, being at the wrong team at a point of his career and he never bounced back. two players in the same situation as renren (all outside, spot-up shooting, and not developing other facets of the game) i can think of are mark macapagal and sunday salvacion. except that these two are not as a deadshot as renren. but, i am referring only to the offensive aspect because before sunday left ginebra, he was able to develop his rebounding and defensive skills.
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game 7....no matter how dim the possibility is...i do hope ROS gets it. not because i don't like b-meg. in fact, i rooted for the the last conference. i just don't want any other team to duplicate what ginebra has done ages ago.
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game 7 baby! i knew it would go the distance when ROS failed to close out the series in game 4. now all momentum is on b-meg's side
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game 7....no matter how dim the possibility is...i do hope ROS gets it. not because i don't like b-meg. in fact, i rooted for the the last conference. i just don't want any other team to duplicate what ginebra has done ages ago.
same here, I rooted for BMeg last con, as I hate TnT.. but this con, I hope ROS wins it on Sunday kahit wala si Lee.. Belga and Arana are fun to watch.. :D
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Go Bmeg..!
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go go go CONEY ISLAND....since i was 5-7years old hehehehe
now 26yrs old na ako BMEG na ...go go go go
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go go go CONEY ISLAND....since i was 5-7years old hehehehe
now 26yrs old na ako BMEG na ...go go go go
Lols ;D ;D
BMEG ;) ;)
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Lols ;D ;D
BMEG ;) ;)
BMEG na kasi ngayon hehehe...nung bata ako e coney island naabutan ko at cheer ako kay patrimonio
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BMEG na kasi ngayon hehehe...nung bata ako e coney island naabutan ko at cheer ako kay patrimonio
Si papa Alvin ::)
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game 7....no matter how dim the possibility is...i do hope ROS gets it. not because i don't like b-meg. in fact, i rooted for the the last conference. i just don't want any other team to duplicate what ginebra has done ages ago.
same here brader ;D
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wala bang kangkungan sa PBA? hehehe ;D
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wala bang kangkungan sa PBA? hehehe ;D
kung meron man Petron ang naroon ngayon. Sino ba ang problema talaga? Si Ato o yung mga players niya? Halos lahat ng talo nila malaki ang lamang nila hanggang 3rd quarter. Nahahabol ng kalaban sa 4th quarter at natatapos ang laro na talo sila.
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^ sama mo pa Sir si Rabeh Al-Hassaini :P
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IMO too much cooks spoiling the broth for PETRON. Too much scorers ...... not enough role-players to do those small valuable things besides scoring.
Last season, Duncil was instrumental in PETRON winning the last conference - hustles, scores & annoys the opponents as well ..... Ato chose to sit Duncil this conference for various reasons.
Even Baclao (he wont become a star .... but will become a good role-player) turned in some nice minutes last season ...... for all his limitations, Hubalde was a decent role-player for PETRON last season.
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PETRON really needs to choose between Santos and Washington ...... the two playing together greatly affects Santos' game.
When Washington checks in, Santos slides down to SF, where he'll be relegated mostly to the corners ...... Santos' mad hops are best served when he freelances near the paint.
If Loveboy Eala feels the need to showcase PETRON next season ....... he just needs to "trade" Washington for Pingris ...... Pingris will fill any hole that PETRON has, likely leading to a championship.
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Washington for Pingris not bad
Washington fits for Cone's triangle offense. but Pingris contributes energy for Bmeg ;)
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rumors are circulating that JWash will be going to BGK.
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rumors are circulating that JWash will be going to BGK.
then it must be true na it is bgk's turn na palakasin ni eala.majority of the bgk fans are getting impatient because it's been a long time since bgk last won a champioship.they are demanding that some of the bigmen of b-meg and patron transfer to bgk to address it's problems.it seems na hulog ng langit tong si eala sa bgk fans.kerby and rico m. are just some of the recent addition to bgk squad,if washington follows suit it will make bgk's chances of a championship much better.but have'nt eala learned the hard way that having a superstar line up does not equate to a championship.look at b-meg (with devance and intal injured)which i think right now is the least of smb teams in terms of superstar players but has a chance of back to back titles.
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rumors are circulating that JWash will be going to BGK.
Good move for PETRON if this does materialize ...... JWash & Arwind doesn't seem to jibe well.
However, BGK itself doesn't need any more ball-centric scorers.
Besides, Kerby seems to have finally found his groove this conference ..... JWash's arrival might drive away some of that progress.
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Loverboy Eala should think beyond corporate lines ...... PETRON needs role-players who wont need the ball to be effective.
Someone like MERALCO's Marc Borboran fits the bill ...... PETRON tried to sign this guy during the pre-season, so they know what Borboran can contribute - great lengthy defense, rebounds and hits timely shots when open.
I'm sure that MERALCO would be happy to trade Borboran for Washington (everybody knows that Ryan Gregorio just loves those isolation scorers) ...... will probably throw-in some future picks as well.
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Niiiiice ....... congrats to Rain Or Shine for winning that 1st 'chip.
Finally, Norwood decided to show up somewhat ...... Cornley was more aggressive this game.
Some quick thoughts:
** James Yap has a totally different set of rules when it comes to fouls - he get's all the calls in his favor.
** On the flipside, Belga gets called for almost everything - more reputation than anything.
** Both imports Cornley and Blakely are keepers ...... we'll be likely seeing them again next year.
** Only a genius coach like Tim Cone (and Yeng Guiao) can make Yancy De Ocampo into a solid contributor.
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ampf talo bmeg ko..tsk tsk tsk
grad import badtrip....science back to back sana e....
lintek na offense yan sa 3rd and 4th.....kin@ntot ng malas lol
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Congrats Rain or Shine for winning the Championship...
and Thank You for preserving a HISTORY ;D
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ampf talo bmeg ko..tsk tsk tsk
grad import badtrip....science back to back sana e....
lintek na offense yan sa 3rd and 4th.....kin@ntot ng malas lol
Bmeg din sana ako. Pero ganun talaga, lasma Lang sa gedli
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grabe scoring sa 2nd half, one of the lowest i've seen.. Congrats ROS..
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after having a 3-1 edge and winning it in Game 7....business as usual.
Congrats to Rain or Shine.
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Congrats Rain or Shine for winning the Championship...
and Thank You for preserving a HISTORY ;D
this, more than anything else, was the reason why i wanted ROS to win last night. :P
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Congratulations to Rain or Shine!
by the way, tapos na ata contract ni yeng guiao diba? if yes, he should be given a new contract or its possible na coach yeng will need to concentrate his effort muna sa pampanga for the upcoming elections.
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Bmeg din sana ako. Pero ganun talaga, lasma Lang sa gedli
nyahaha..... may next year pa..give credits to ROS for winning it after 6years
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Ai-Ai Delas Alas ba naman ang inspirasyon ng RoS, 'pag 'di pa ba naman sila nanalo nun ewan ko na lang.
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Ai-Ai Delas Alas ba naman ang inspirasyon ng RoS, 'pag 'di pa ba naman sila nanalo nun ewan ko na lang.
panay cheer at aalog alog ung ded3 lol
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Always nice to see a team like ROS, get that first championship ...... focus is now on the upcoming rookie draft.
The draft will be 2-rounds deep ...... many quality locals available ...... plus the PBA DLeague Filams - who by the way, were barred from joining last year's draft due to a last minute rule-change by Comm. Cheato Salud - bakit kaya? ;) ;) ;)
** ALASKA will likely go for Hodge ..... they need scorers & athleticism really bad - Hodge seems to be the logical pick (Abueva is also a possibility, but carries some recklessness to his game).
There are rumors that ALASKA might trade-down, by picking glamor-boy Chris Tiu then trading him to MERALCO (MVP likes Tiu veeeerrrry much) for the 4th overall pick plus a player ..... or Sol Mercado plus a future pick.
** PETRON obviously will tab Kraken Fajardo as 1st overall pick .... for the 3rd pick, they'll get whoever ALASKA doesn't pick (they'll probably choose between Tiu and Abueva).
** MERALCO will pick Tiu if he's still available by the 4th pick ..... if not, they'll end up with Abueva - who'll make an excellent pick since MERALCO needs an infusion of some energy players.
** BGK needs more athletic bigs ..... so, they can play PSP with Rico Maierhofer on the bench.
Kidding aside, BGK has two 1st-round picks (6th & 8th) ...... they'll probably be choosing between Chris Ellis, Jason Deutchman, Vic Manuel, Aldrech Ramos, Dave Marcelo, etc.
** ROS is basically a a complete team - though they can use more athletic rebounding bigs ..... they currently have decent scoring bigs e.g. Belga, Quinahan, Cruz & Rodriguez .... but most of them don't fare well rebounding against active bigs from other teams.
They'll probably have the same above draftee choices as BGK does, as they own the 7th pick.
Knowing Yeng Guiao, he'll pick the toughest & meanest looking player available ..... Guiao has no need for pretty-boys like Tiu. ;)
** BMEG owns the 9th pick ...... I have a feeling that Tim Cone covets someone in the mold of Tony Dela Cruz - someone who gets those jumpers out of his triangle-offense movement.
He already has his triangle-anchor in Pingris & Yancy ...... he'll want a decent jump-shooter .... probably pick Aldrech Ramos if available.
** POWERADE (HARBOUR) owns the 10th pick ..... they'll get the most decent big left.
** BARAKO BULL ....... have been posting this for the loooongest time ......... no true fan of basketball should ever mind what a Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina-owned team does with its draft picks.
Everyone knows what kind of business Lina runs in the PBA. ;D
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i wonder what Yeng Guiao can do to an Abueva or Hodge?isnt it that Baguio got his superstar status under Guiao?
I hope Alaska get Hodge, wala ng exciting na player ang ALaska eh
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i wonder what Yeng Guiao can do to an Abueva or Hodge?isnt it that Baguio got his superstar status under Guiao?
I hope Alaska get Hodge, wala ng exciting na player ang ALaska eh
^ Yeng Guiao has had his share of handling elite athletes before ....... however, if the attitude isn't there, he wont hesitate to have him traded to a lesser talent but with a bigger heart.
Yes, Cyrus Baguio got to shine under Guiao ..... in fact, many other players showed their best when they played under him e.g. Enrico Villanueva, Celino Cruz, Mick Pennisi, Carlos Sharma, Gabby Espinas & a whole lot more including the current ROS lineup.
ALASKA badly needs scoring athletes (and yes, some added excitement as well) ..... they'll get it best by drafting Hodge or Abueva ...... Abueva is more of a risk though, due to his tendency to shoot ill-advised shots.
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^ Yeng Guiao has had his share of handling elite athletes before ....... however, if the attitude isn't there, he wont hesitate to have him traded to a lesser talent but with a bigger heart.
Yes, Cyrus Baguio got to shine under Guiao ..... in fact, many other players showed their best when they played under him e.g. Enrico Villanueva, Celino Cruz, Mick Pennisi, Carlos Sharma, Gabby Espinas & a whole lot more including the current ROS lineup.
ALASKA badly needs scoring athletes (and yes, some added excitement as well) ..... they'll get it best by drafting Hodge or Abueva ...... Abueva is more of a risk though, due to his tendency to shoot ill-advised shots.
i like Hodge better, taller if im not mistaken but has practically the same move and skills as Abueva, Im sure given the right amount of playing time and exposure, Abueva will make it big sa PBA, yung recklesness nya malamang sa PBA titino na otherwsie maiksing karera ang aabutin nya but still Il take Hodge over him. anytime.
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Congrats Rain or Shine for winning the Championship...
and Thank You for preserving a HISTORY ;D
;D ;D ;D
BGK's record preserved!
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^ Yeng Guiao has had his share of handling elite athletes before ....... however, if the attitude isn't there, he wont hesitate to have him traded to a lesser talent but with a bigger heart.
Yes, Cyrus Baguio got to shine under Guiao ..... in fact, many other players showed their best when they played under him e.g. Enrico Villanueva, Celino Cruz, Mick Pennisi, Carlos Sharma, Gabby Espinas & a whole lot more including the current ROS lineup.
ALASKA badly needs scoring athletes (and yes, some added excitement as well) ..... they'll get it best by drafting Hodge or Abueva ...... Abueva is more of a risk though, due to his tendency to shoot ill-advised shots.
do not forget junthy valenzuela and lordy tugade
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^ Yeng Guiao has had his share of handling elite athletes before ....... however, if the attitude isn't there, he wont hesitate to have him traded to a lesser talent but with a bigger heart.
Yes, Cyrus Baguio got to shine under Guiao ..... in fact, many other players showed their best when they played under him e.g. Enrico Villanueva, Celino Cruz, Mick Pennisi, Carlos Sharma, Gabby Espinas & a whole lot more including the current ROS lineup.
ALASKA badly needs scoring athletes (and yes, some added excitement as well) ..... they'll get it best by drafting Hodge or Abueva ...... Abueva is more of a risk though, due to his tendency to shoot ill-advised shots.
I think first appearance of Belga was in the Bmeg. Sa ROS talaga lumabas kung anu ang laro nya by Guiao ;)
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do not forget junthy valenzuela and lordy tugade
Yup, these two shown brightly under Yeng Guiao as well ...... I actually omitted mentioning them, since both were known blue-chip talents coming from the amateur ranks.
I just mentioned those five players (Enrico Villanueva, Celino Cruz, Mick Pennisi, Carlos Sharma & Gabby Espinas) ..... looking back they've had more stints with various PBA teams; yet their time under Guiao was when they clearly shone the brightest. :)
@cutiepipes ...... Like I said, you can count most of the ROS squad, since they fared best under Guiao.
Yup, Belga started his career with PFOODS ..... but rarely got playing time from Gregorio.
Under Guiao, he has shown more confidence in his shot ..... it didn't necessarily improved his FG%, but it made him a more active player on offense & defense.
One more thing ..... Belga has always been the 2nd coming of Jerry Codinera - that is, he always complains after every foul called on him ...... under Guiao, his complaining has increased a notch. ;D
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I think first appearance of Belga was in the Bmeg. Sa ROS talaga lumabas kung anu ang laro nya by Guiao ;)
paborito talaga ni guiao ang mga enforcer type na physical players
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Yup, these two shown brightly under Yeng Guiao as well ...... I actually omitted mentioning them, since both were known blue-chip talents coming from the amateur ranks.
I just mentioned those five players (Enrico Villanueva, Celino Cruz, Mick Pennisi, Carlos Sharma & Gabby Espinas) ..... looking back they've had more stints with various PBA teams; yet their time under Guiao was when they clearly shone the brightest. :)
@cutiepipes ...... Like I said, you can count most of the ROS squad, since they fared best under Guiao.
Yup, Belga started his career with PFOODS ..... but rarely got playing time from Gregorio.
Under Guiao, he has shown more confidence in his shot ..... it didn't necessarily improved his FG%, but it made him a more active player on offense & defense.
One more thing ..... Belga has always been the 2nd coming of Jerry Codinera - that is, he always complains after every foul called on him ...... under Guiao, his complaining has increased a notch. ;D
tapos ngingiting parang bolang!
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Some new PBA updates ..... on the eve of the 2012 Draft (a.k.a. Bert Lina-SMC player sweepstakes).
** As expected, Ato Agustin has been removed from his PETRON's head-coaching job ...... replaced by Olsen Racela (minor surprise, since everybody was expecting Toroman to take over).
It's unlikely that Agustin will leave the SMC fold though ..... like I said, being an SMC assistant-coach is a very lucrative job (e.g. PETRON has 9 assistant-coaches) ...... some politics and grandstanding required, to be able to secure and keep a slot here.
** Mikee Romero formally enters the PBA ..... purchasing the previous POWERADE franchise.
Let's all hope that Romero fully intends to compete and wont be a stooge/lackey to known associates MVP & SMC.
** Speaking of stooge/lackey ..... a PBA update from me wouldn't be complete, without yet another Bert "Pimp Daddy" Lina sale este lopsided trade to SMC.
AIR21 gets:
PETRON's Noy Baclao & Rob Reyes, BGK's KG Canaleta & John Wilson and BARAKO's Leo Najorda
Note: It's an open secret that BARAKO BULL is owned and operated by SMC, with Lina as front.
PETRON gets:
AIR21's 2013 1st round pick and players Elmer Espiritu, Paolo Hubalde, Ogie Menor, Magi Sison, & Eric Salamat
What's funny in all of this ..... Baclao, Reyes, Canaleta & Najorda we're all former players of the Lina/Chua bugaw teams - all of them used as fillers for past lopsided trades for the SMC teams !
KG Canaleta was already with a Lina team twice before !
Even John Wilson was a product of a lopsided trade between BARAKO BULL and BGK ...... the draft pick used to get Wilson, belonged to BARAKO ...... which was sold este traded for BGK Filam Mike Holper.
Mike Holper played just a conference for BARAKO ..... was waived, then went back to then SMB.
That 2013 1st round pick is sure to land PETRON either Pringle, Slaughter, Lanete or Banchero next year.
The moro-moro in the PBA continues ..... (Comm. Cheato Salud has a big smile across his face)
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With Dorian Peña back in the line-up and Ildefonso still being given playing time, Rob Reyes and Noy Baclao would ride the Petron bench most of the time. What I don't understand is why BGK is giving away Canaleta when he played well in the last conference. Who did Ginebra get in return for Canaleta?
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AIR21 gets:
PETRON's Noy Baclao & Rob Reyes, BGK's KG Canaleta & John Wilson and BARAKO's Leo Najorda
Note: It's an open secret that BARAKO BULL is owned and operated by SMC, with Lina as front.
PETRON gets:
AIR21's 2013 1st round pick and players Elmer Espiritu, Paolo Hubalde, Ogie Menor, Magi Sison, & Eric Salamat
this is actually not confirmed.. who or what Petron gets is not yet confirmed kasi it's a 4-team trade between Petron, Ginebra, Air21 and Barako.. Kramer is rumored to be heading back to Ginebra.. Danny Seigle is going back daw to Petron.. Petron will lose their 3rd pick tomorrow daw and B-Meg may enter the picture.. Ginebra is also rumored to be getting one of B-Meg's point guards.. ang medyo confirmed pa lang ay ang mga players na makukuha ng Air21..
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this is actually not confirmed.. who or what Petron gets is not yet confirmed kasi it's a 4-team trade between Petron, Ginebra, Air21 and Barako.. Kramer is rumored to be heading back to Ginebra.. Danny Seigle is going back daw to Petron.. Petron will lose their 3rd pick tomorrow daw and B-Meg may enter the picture.. Ginebra is also rumored to be getting one of B-Meg's point guards.. ang medyo confirmed pa lang ay ang mga players na makukuha ng Air21..
Kay Kramer ok pa ako kasi candidate talaga yan for most improved player if only nakapasok ang powerade sa semis last confy, baka tinalo pa nya si Jeff Chan.
Also, according to trade humors, yung isang PG from bmeg na mapupunta sa ginebra is barroca at si Jwash din pala to ginebra...nakakalito na mga trade humors, pero puro pabor sa petron.
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With Dorian Peña back in the line-up and Ildefonso still being given playing time, Rob Reyes and Noy Baclao would ride the Petron bench most of the time. What I don't understand is why BGK is giving away Canaleta when he played well in the last conference. Who did Ginebra get in return for Canaleta?
KG Canaleta is quite an enigma ...... can go into mini-scoring sprees if his first few shots goes in (very similar to Itoy Esguerra from the PBA 80's).
More often than not though, he gets into some mean scoring slumps.
BGK's likely to discard Canaleta, since the more versatile Ababou (defends & rebounds more) & Maliksi (defends & shoots more accurately) plays the same SF as him.
Besides, BGK has 2 first round picks in tonight's draft ..... it's a draft teeming with quality forwards, with BGK expected to pick among Ellis, Manuel, Jensen, Ramos, Marcelo, Nabong, Deutchman, etc.
KG Canaleta's impending move to AIR21 is probably the best career move for him ..... he'll get minutes and he'll get his shots in Pumaren's ramshackle lineup.
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Seems like ALASKA is hell-bent on a major facelift by tonight's PBA draft ....... If trade rumors pushes through (as confirmed by an insider):
ALASKA will trade LA Tenorio (plus scrubs) .... for MERALCO's 4th overall pick + plus players (maybe Sol Mercado) + ROS 7th overall pick
** If this happens, ALASKA gets 3-1st round picks (#2, #4 and #7) ..... chooses from among Hodge, Abueva, Tiu, Mallari, etc ...... good building blocks for a young, fresh core.
** Highly possible that ALASKA trades away more sub-players, aside from Tenorio e.g. Eman, Thiele, Gonzales, Mepana, etc
** Good move for MERALCO, as they get that a pure, blue-chip PG in Tenorio ..... unlike Mercado, who is an alpha-scoring PG.
** Yeng Guiao has always said that he's content with ROS' current lineup ..... which is actually true, since ROS has great depth on all positions.
ROS will likely get a scrub from ALASKA (rebounding big e.g. Thiele) or their 2013 1st round pick.
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Fajardo goes first to Petron, Abueva next to Alaska, Alex Mallari to Petron at 3rd, Hodge for Meralco at 4th and Barako picks Aldrech Ramos at 5th..
Ginebra picks Chris Ellis at 6th.. Chris Tiu's age seems to have affected his stock at the draft.. he was projected to be in the top 5 but so far wala pa..
EDIT: Tiu goes to Rain or Shine.. now that's a surprise.. Tiu with Yeng Guiao? I don't see that working..
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What a steal for ROS ...... Tiu dropping all the way to the 7th pick.
I say steal, because you get an instant girl fanbase (which has long been the new base of PBA followers) ...... Tiu's game is really limited - but he brings some leadership and is surprisingly tough on the floor ..... he's a true PG .... he'll shoot only when it's necessary and he has nice range as well.
Now ..... it's up to Yeng Guiao if he can stand the female fans and Tiu's pretty face. ;D
The ALASKA, SMC & MVP camps are now sending their trade offers for Tiu.
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Trade: B-Meg traded their 9th pick + Val Acuna for Sean Anthony of Global Port (Powerade dati).. B-Meg now just traded Sean Anthony + 12th pick to Barako for 5th pick Aldrech Ramos.. Ramos is perfect for the triangle.. big man with a steady jumper..
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** BMEG owns the 9th pick ...... I have a feeling that Tim Cone covets someone in the mold of Tony Dela Cruz - someone who gets those jumpers out of his triangle-offense movement.
He already has his triangle-anchor in Pingris & Yancy ...... he'll want a decent jump-shooter .... probably pick Aldrech Ramos if available.
Exactly ...... Aldrech Ramos was my pick for BMEG ...... steady jump-shooter, as shown in early GILAS games.
If it wasn't Ramos ..... I had a feeling that BMEG will send trade offers for Tony Dela Cruz.
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Almost forgot that ROS' top PG Paul Lee is sidelined until early next year ...... that shoulder injury seems serious.
So, it's likely that Chris Tiu stays with ROS ..... for now.
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Almost forgot that ROS' top PG Paul Lee is sidelined until early next year ...... that shoulder injury seems serious.
So, it's likely that Chris Tiu stays with ROS ..... for now.
and the Tiu family are known business partners of the welcoat franchise. =) so expect chris tiu to stay with ros.
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and the Tiu family are known business partners of the welcoat franchise. =) so expect chris tiu to stay with ros.
That's good news ...... it's practically Chinatown in ROS ..... Lee, Chan, Tang, Tiu, Jao (Team manager), Yu & Que (Team owners). ;D
Like I said, any non-SMC/MVP team that succeeds on the court & on the stands, is good news for the overall health of the sport.
Chris Tiu should provide leadership & steadiness when he's on the floor ..... him and Calvin Abueva are easily the most mature rookies this season.
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Exactly ...... Aldrech Ramos was my pick for BMEG ...... steady jump-shooter, as shown in early GILAS games.
If it wasn't Ramos ..... I had a feeling that BMEG will send trade offers for Tony Dela Cruz.
hmmm,almost same position sila ni jdv,although i'm not sure who is the worst defender of the 2 ;D.the only reason i can think of why they got ramos is because jdv is still injured.what i'm hoping for bmeg is a player like ryan reyes or tdlc.
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Kay Kramer ok pa ako kasi candidate talaga yan for most improved player if only nakapasok ang powerade sa semis last confy, baka tinalo pa nya si Jeff Chan.
Also, according to trade humors, yung isang PG from bmeg na mapupunta sa ginebra is barroca at si Jwash din pala to ginebra...nakakalito na mga trade humors, pero puro pabor sa petron.
brader mukhang hindi mapupunta si barroca sa bgk kasi sabi ni tim cone sa interview the reason they didn't draft tiu is because marami na sila pg,sabi pa nya if only they traded one of their pointguard eh baka si tiu pinili nila
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hmmm,almost same position sila ni jdv,although i'm not sure who is the worst defender of the 2 ;D.the only reason i can think of why they got ramos is because jdv is still injured.what i'm hoping for bmeg is a player like ryan reyes or tdlc.
Yup, JDV does have some serious matador-defense in him ...... ;D
However, JDV was always a starter SF for Cone (ALASKA anyways) and was allowed to freelance a bit on offense ...... whereas TDLC is a reliever and was strictly assigned to certain hotspots on the triangle offense.
A healthy TDLC was near-automatic with those side-jumpers ..... beneficiary of that triangle movement/passing ..... Tim Cone is hoping that Ramos will emulate TDLC's role.
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Yup, JDV does have some serious matador-defense in him ...... ;D
However, JDV was always a starter SF for Cone (ALASKA anyways) and was allowed to freelance a bit on offense ...... whereas TDLC is a reliever and was strictly assigned to certain hotspots on the triangle offense.
A healthy TDLC was near-automatic with those side-jumpers ..... beneficiary of that triangle movement/passing ..... Tim Cone is hoping that Ramos will emulate TDLC's role.
i have no doubt on Ramos' \ability to shoot what i worry is on defense side,if he will guard a powerforward medyo manipis sya,kung no 3 naman medyo mabagal sya.katulad nga ni jdv yan,pabor sa b meg pag offense pero problema din sya pagdating sa defense baka mas ok pa nga si jdv to guard no 4 kasi mas heftier sya.
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^ Yup, Cone will work on Ramos' defense ...... Cone's defensive schemes are often overlooked due to the success of the triangle offense.
PJ Simon's defense greatly improved under Cone ..... even J.Yap showed improvement as well.
If Ramos follows the same defensive-prowess rise of TDLC (from way back in SHELL up to ALASKA) ..... he just might have a good pro career.
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PETRON just got a whole lot more loaded ...... not one scrub in this lineup.
If PETRON doesn't win at least 1 'chip this upcoming season ..... Noli Eala should be thrown in jail (actually he should've been in jail a long time ago).
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i have no doubt on Ramos' \ability to shoot what i worry is on defense side,if he will guard a powerforward medyo manipis sya,kung no 3 naman medyo mabagal sya.katulad nga ni jdv yan,pabor sa b meg pag offense pero problema din sya pagdating sa defense baka mas ok pa nga si jdv to guard no 4 kasi mas heftier sya.
I believe Ramos can play defense. This was evident during his earlier years in FEU. But when he became the top big man, and was expected to play a whole lot of minutes, he was given the lighter defensive assignment to allow him to focus on offense and at the same time to preserve his fouls. Though the players in the PBA are bigger and faster, he'll do just fine since defense in the PBA is not purely man-to-man defense.
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^ Yup, Cone will work on Ramos' defense ...... Cone's defensive schemes are often overlooked due to the success of the triangle offense.
PJ Simon's defense greatly improved under Cone ..... even J.Yap showed improvement as well.
If Ramos follows the same defensive-prowess rise of TDLC (from way back in SHELL up to ALASKA) ..... he just might have a good pro career.
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PETRON just got a whole lot more loaded ...... not one scrub in this lineup.
If PETRON doesn't win at least 1 'chip this upcoming season ..... Noli Eala should be thrown in jail (actually he should've been in jail a long time ago).
yes simon's defense improved but his offense suffered,he became very inconsistent sa offense.lalo lang tuloy bumigat trabaho ni j yap sa scoring lalo nung na injured si jdv and intal.yun ang nagiging problema when you force an offense minded players concentrate on defense unlike players like cariaso and ryan reyes na offense defense oriented na talaga bago pumasok sa pba.
yan namang style ng smc company to get big star from other teams is not necessarily mapalakas yung team nila but also to weaken other teams,kasehodang mabangko yung magaling na player kaysa mapunta sa ibang teams na makakapag contribute sya ng husto.swapang talaga no?
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and the merry-go-round begins........
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/air-21-petron-ginebra-submit-seven-player-blockbuster-deal-to-pba (http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/air-21-petron-ginebra-submit-seven-player-blockbuster-deal-to-pba)
"In the deal, the Express will receive Petron big men Noy Baclao and Rob Reyes and Ginebra wingmen KG Canaleta and John Wilson; Petron will receive center Magi Sison, guard Paolo Hubalde, and a 2014 second round pick from Air 21; and Ginebra will receive Elmer Espiritu and Air 21′s first round pick in 2013."
update (11:59a.m., 8-23-12): the trade has already been approved
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@snipes
brader approved na! ;)
PBA: Air21 loads up via three-team trade with Petron, Ginebra
August 23, 2012 11:32am
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The Air21 Express shored up their frontline by adding height via a three-team deal that saw them nab former number one overall pick Nonoy Baclao, along with Rob Reyes, KG Canaleta and John Wilson from the Petron Blaze Boosters and Barangay Ginebra San Miguel.
In exchange, Petron got back sophomore Magi Sison, point guard Paolo Hubalde, and a 2014 second round draft pick, while Ginebra added Elmer Espiritu and a 2013 first round selection.
From the #PBA Commissioner's Office: Summary of Approved Trades as of August 23, 2012 - 1. AIR 21 gets Niño (cont) tl.gd/ivs63k
— pbaconnect (@pbaconnect) August 23, 2012
Interestingly enough, both Baclao and Canaleta actually played on earlier incarnations of the Air21 squad.
The 6'6" Baclao had been the number one pick in the 2010 draft, and averaged 3.4 points, 5.17 rebounds, 1.1 assists and 1.49 blocks with Air21, before being traded to Petron, where his playing time and numbers took a big hit. Overall, he has career averages of 2.79 points, 4.25 rebounds, 0.76 assists and 1.14 blocks in 14.98 minutes of play.
Joining him is the 6'5" Reyes, who boasts career numbers of 3.83 points and 3.54 rebounds in 15.56 minutes of play. Further adding height to the Express is 6'6" Nino Canaleta. The former UE Red Warrior averages 8.97 points, 3.68 rebounds and 0.79 assists in 20.49 minutes in a seven-season career.
Rounding out the Express' additions is bit player John Wilson, who averaged 3.75 points, 2.25 rebounds and 0.68 assists in 12.10 minutes over two seasons with Ginebra.
Petron gets a veteran back-up point guard in Hubalde. Last season, he normed 3.42 assists per game, and has career marks of 4.74 points, 2.46 rebounds and 2.22 assists in 15.79 minutes. They also get a project center in Magi Sison, who averaged 2.9 points and 3.55 rebounds in his rookie year.
Finally, Ginebra gets the high-leaping Elmer Espiritu, who has numbers of 5.05 points, 3.91 rebounds and 0.55 blocks in 18.07 minutes after two PBA seasons.
In the recently concluded 2012 PBA rookie draft, Petron tabbed June Mar Fajardo and Alex Mallari with the first and third overall picks. Ginebra got Chris Ellis and Charles Jensen with the sixth and eighth selections, while Air21 settled for Yousef Taha at the start of the second round, and Simon Atkins in the opening of the third. - AMD, GMA News (http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/270862/sports/basketball/pba-air21-loads-up-via-three-team-trade-with-petron-ginebra)
1. Team owner no longer happy with players attitude.
Decision to trade him will be known tomorrow. Eagle for an Eagle - via Snow Badua
E. Villanueva - J. Aguilar ?
2. snow badua @snowbadua
Malamang yung mga fans ng GINEBRA maging instant ATENEO fans. NOTE: AIR 21 2013 first round pick.
G. Slaughter ;)
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^it's Rabeh-Aguilar swap.. Rabeh goes to TNT and Aguilar to Global Port Batang Pier..
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oo nga sir, eagle-eagle din :D
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eto talaga ang problema sa player ang attitude....
Rabeh,,,,,nung hindi siya ang piniling no.1 draft pick nag alburoto....wala parin naman siyang record sa PBA para maging ganun ang attitude....ngayun pumasok na ang sinasabing magiging dominant center (Junmar F.) mahihirapan na siyang makaporma lalo ngayun....he plays center pero hindi rin dominante....
Japeth A.....gusto niya ang larong Scottie Pippen....oki lang sana kung ang PBA heights ay same sa NBA ei...kaya lang ang Height niya ay pang dominant center na sa PBA....pinaliwanag na sa kanya ni Rajko Toroman ang dapat niyang gawin sa laro niya and yet ayaw niyang makinig sa nakakakita ng laro niya at kung san siya mag e-excel...
;D ;D ;D
^it's Rabeh-Aguilar swap.. Rabeh goes to TNT and Aguilar to Global Port Batang Pier..
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eto talaga ang problema sa player ang attitude....
Rabeh,,,,,nung hindi siya ang piniling no.1 draft pick nag alburoto....wala parin naman siyang record sa PBA para maging ganun ang attitude....ngayun pumasok na ang sinasabing magiging dominant center (Junmar F.) mahihirapan na siyang makaporma lalo ngayun....he plays center pero hindi rin dominante....
Japeth A.....gusto niya ang larong Scottie Pippen....oki lang sana kung ang PBA heights ay same sa NBA ei...kaya lang ang Height niya ay pang dominant center na sa PBA....pinaliwanag na sa kanya ni Rajko Toroman ang dapat niyang gawin sa laro niya and yet ayaw niyang makinig sa nakakakita ng laro niya at kung san siya mag e-excel...
;D ;D ;D
Japet loves pick and roll and catch and shoot minsan follow-up dunk kaso nawawala yung bola sa kamay nya ;D
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Una pa lang naman pa-star na yang si aguilar eh. Di ba nga pick siya ng team ni yeng guiao before pero di siya pumirma at muntik pang magdemandahan at eventually kinuha ng TNT. Puro ere wala namang sinab!
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Lito "Bugaw" Alvarez strikes again ...... an upgraded AIR21 will still generally s*ck this upcoming season.
AIR21 might have retooled, but so did the other PBA teams ..... they still wont win much.
Besides, will anyone be surprised if, say Noy Baclao suddenly finds his game with AIR21 ..... will then be "traded" back to SMC in the near future?
Once again, a Lina-team has sold este traded away the potential #1 overall pick to SMC ..... with Slaughter & Pringle as possible top picks.
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Potential Rabeh --- Japeth straight-up trade?
One headcase traded for another headcase ...... though, it should be a win-win deal for both TnT and GLOBAL PORT.
TnT get's virtually nothing from Japeth anyway and may have grown tired of his childish ways ...... tells you something when Japeth plays way behind a 37-year old Ali Peek - a man playing with a bullet slug stuck in his neck.
Norman Black is old-school ..... always ensures that his PBA teams has that traditional center at the post.
GLOBAL surely knows about Rabeh's childish ways ..... the promise of a fast-breaking Japeth over a pouting and passive Rabeh might be too good to resist.
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feeling ko hindi lang nabigyan ng mgandang break si japeth sa tnt. may pagasa pa din yan magimprove. nung bago pumasok kala mala limpot ang galaw niya. maling mali pala ko :-)
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eto talaga ang problema sa player ang attitude....
Rabeh,,,,,nung hindi siya ang piniling no.1 draft pick nag alburoto....wala parin naman siyang record sa PBA para maging ganun ang attitude....ngayun pumasok na ang sinasabing magiging dominant center (Junmar F.) mahihirapan na siyang makaporma lalo ngayun....he plays center pero hindi rin dominante....
Japeth A.....gusto niya ang larong Scottie Pippen....oki lang sana kung ang PBA heights ay same sa NBA ei...kaya lang ang Height niya ay pang dominant center na sa PBA....pinaliwanag na sa kanya ni Rajko Toroman ang dapat niyang gawin sa laro niya and yet ayaw niyang makinig sa nakakakita ng laro niya at kung san siya mag e-excel...
;D ;D ;D
feeling ko hindi lang nabigyan ng mgandang break si japeth sa tnt. may pagasa pa din yan magimprove. nung bago pumasok kala mala limpot ang galaw niya. maling mali pala ko :-)
Parehong pang-center ang height nina Japeth at Rabeh pero pareho ding hindi center ang laro nila. Si Japeth di talaga naglalaro ng center kaya di nabibigyan ng playing time. Marami siyang kaagaw sa 3 and 4 spots ng team niya. Si Rabeh naman can play center but with the influx of bigger players, imo, he can now slide down to the 4 or even the 3 spot for his team.
Ang problema kasi sa perspective ng pinoy eh pag matangkad ka center ka na agad. Kaya sana dumami pa ang mga kasingtangkad ni Ranidel de Ocampo na kayang maglow-post, kayang umatake facing the basket, may tira sa labas hanggang sa three points at malaki ang pangangatawan. Swerte siya at may kuya Yancy siya na tumayong center sa team niya nung college kaya di siya napwersang maglaro ng center. ;D
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Parehong pang-center ang height nina Japeth at Rabeh pero pareho ding hindi center ang laro nila. Si Japeth di talaga naglalaro ng center kaya di nabibigyan ng playing time. Marami siyang kaagaw sa 3 and 4 spots ng team niya. Si Rabeh naman can play center but with the influx of bigger players, imo, he can now slide down to the 4 or even the 3 spot for his team.
Ang problema kasi sa perspective ng pinoy eh pag matangkad ka center ka na agad. Kaya sana dumami pa ang mga kasingtangkad ni Ranidel de Ocampo na kayang maglow-post, kayang umatake facing the basket, may tira sa labas hanggang sa three points at malaki ang pangangatawan. Swerte siya at may kuya Yancy siya na tumayong center sa team niya nung college kaya di siya napwersang maglaro ng center. ;D
wala naman sanang problema...kung 3 or 4 ang gustong gawing laro ni japeth ei ang manggaling sa labas sabay atake...kung kaya lang sana niyang mag drive na habang nag di dribol ng bola kaya lang nga ei hindi rin niya mahawakan ng maayos ang bola patungong basket....hindi rin siya maka create ng offense ng galing sa labas ng sarili lang niya....like cyrus baguio or danny siegle style...kung ganun sana ei talagang maraming mahihirapan sa kanya....kaya better ma develop niya ang low post or high post game....sa haba ng mga binti at galamay niya...maka step lang siya ng isang malaki ei puede na niyang ma lay up or dunk ang bola kahit pa may bantay with his leaping ability...plus power....either offensive or defensive foul lang naman ang aabutin ei....
kung mag slid down si rabeh sa 3 or 4 dapat he can dribol din para low or high post man hindi siya basta basta maagawan ng bola...try to watch the game of benjie paras....dribol habang binabangga ang katawan sa bumabantay then pag may opportunity na biglang mag atake sa basket....kasi mahirap bantayan ang player na marunong mag dribol dahil mahirap malaman kung kailan aatake.... ;D ;D ;D lalo pat ang babantay ay walang lateral movement...yakang yaka ng magaling mag dribol iwan ang bantay... ;D ;D ;D
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imagine nalang na magpalaki pa ng katawan si Japet at adding dribbling skill mas nakakatakot ;D
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kasi mahirap bantayan ang player na marunong mag dribol dahil mahirap malaman kung kailan aatake.... ;D ;D ;D lalo pat ang babantay ay walang lateral movement...yakang yaka ng magaling mag dribol iwan ang bantay... ;D ;D ;D
this was the first lesson that my dad taught me on playing bball. kailangan matuto ka magdribble ng bola :-)
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http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/271025/sports/opinion/air21-and-the-need-to-protect-the-pbas-first-three-draft-picks?ref=secitem
its a good read =)
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http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/271025/sports/opinion/air21-and-the-need-to-protect-the-pbas-first-three-draft-picks?ref=secitem
its a good read =)
Good read bro ..... I agree with some points about protecting high picks.
However, for the nth time, a sports column regarding PBA draft picks, free-agency, etc has once again ignored the "massive elephant in the room".
The PBA draft does work ...... the only time it doesn't work is when PBA teams (read: Lina & Chua teams) sell este trade the blue-chip players and/or top draft slots to the already elite teams (read: SMC & MVP teams).
The Lina & Chua teams, sell these top players/high draft slots for marginal players & yet more future picks ........ then the cycle repeats itself, year after year.
Like I said in my earlier post, a reloaded AIR21 will still suck this year ..... in exchange for racking up a few more wins, they basically gave away the right to draft a potential franchise player (Slaughter) to SMC .... history repeats itself, over and over again.
Also, should Baclao, Reyes, Canaleta or Wilson perform well this year, would anyone be surprised if any of them somehow return to SMC in the near future? ...... this scenario has happened many times before.
There's a stinking, massive elephant in the room ..... yet it seems like only Wilfred Uytengsu (and old Firequinito) has the balls to talk about it ..... not one PBA commentator or legit sports columnist seems to "know" about the elephant. ;D
"It's difficult to get a man to understand something if his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair
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smc is renewing Menk's contract but he will be playing in ABL(San Miguel
Team) to regain his condition.....@quinito henson's twitter
:P :P :P
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^^ much as i like eric menk, removing him from the BGSM line-up is a good move. he's not being used anyway, due to his recurring calf injury. he spends more time riding the bench.
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http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio (http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio)
cortez and willy wilson for casio? for me, not fair. casio cannot fill up the void that will be left by cortez and w. wilson.
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talo nga bgk sa trade na yan if ever matuloy :'(
A veteran point guard na kayang mag triple-double & a defensive player, lugi :o
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http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio (http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio)
cortez and willy wilson for casio? for me, not fair. casio cannot fill up the void that will be left by cortez and w. wilson.
NO WAY!!!
Kung si Gary David pa yan pwede pa ;D ;D ;D
But seriously, Casio alone doesn't equate to Cortez + W. Wilson. I agree that this isn't an equal trade.
***Pero syempre may mga magsasabi nanaman na majority of SMC trades are in favor sa kanila ;D
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http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio (http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22775-aguilar-globalport-bound-kings-prepare-package-for-casio)
cortez and willy wilson for casio? for me, not fair. casio cannot fill up the void that will be left by cortez and w. wilson.
Beg to differ bro ...... but if ever this deal pushes through, it confirms that Mikee Romero's SMC ties are alive and well (following in the footstep$$$ of Bert Lina & George Chua).
If it materializes, the trade is lopsided in favor of SMC (as usual) ..... my two-cents on this:
** Even after his rookie season, JV Casio can already be considered among the top PG's in the league ..... very instrumental in POWERADE's success last season.
JV Casio is a franchise PG now ..... and will remain that way for a good part of this decade (barring further injuries).
** Both Mike Cortez and W.Wilson are still serviceable ...... but age and injuries are slowly creeping up on them - both 32 years old already.
Cortez nowadays seems to play well, only in spurts ...... he has slowed down.
Willy Wilson meanwhile is a great asset to any team ...... however, part of the reason that the crowds notice Wilson (aside from his instant impact), is that he only plays reliever minutes.
Wilson was never one to play regularly heavy minutes ..... a player best served as the 6th-8th man off the bench.
BGK can more than afford to trade away Willy Wilson ...... they have many prime scoring, defending forwards in their lineup e.g. Dylan Ababou, Allein Maliksi, Elmer Espiritu & recent draftees Ellis & Jensen.
They even traded away Canaleta & John Wilson because of their logjam at the forward slots.
** Salaries ..... a facet of lopsided trades which the entire PBA seems to ignore.
Mike Cortez just recently signed a max contract with BGK for P350k/month (P350k is the previous max contract allowed by the PBA) ...... Willy Wilson is on-board for around P300k/month ..... that's a combined P650k/month.
JV Casio meanwhile is still on his rookie contract ...... which will pay him just P225k/month.
So, if the trade pushes through ...... Mikee Romero's GLOBAL PORT will not only lose the best player in the trade - they will also add ~P400k to their monthly operating cost. ..... doesn't sound fair to me.
The NBA requires that player trades should have salaries come within 80% of each other ..... just to help ensure trade fairness ...... How come the PBA doesn't have at least a semblance of something like this?
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rumors have been circulating since the end of the Jones Cup that LA Tenorio will be traded by Alaska because he doesn't want to heed Alaska's request for him to stop playing for Gilas.. the past 2 days, I've been reading that Tenorio has indeed been traded to one of the SMC teams in a 3-team trade involving Ginebra, San Mig Coffee (dating B-Meg) and Global Batang Pier.. Casio and Barroca are likely going to be involved as well..
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I feel for both Tenorio & Uytengsu's ALASKA on this one ...... Tenorio is definitely on a high after that big Jones Cup win.
ALASKA meanwhile is aching to bounce back this season, after it's poor showing last year ...... they've always been supportive of past National Teams, but is hesitant to lend players in next month's Japan tourney - which will already coincide with the new PBA season.
Add to the fact that the SMC elite teams wont lend any of their top players ...... you can see where Uytengsu's point of contention is.
In anycase, if Tenorio does get traded ..... it wouldn't be because of Tenorio's wish to compete in Japan - it would be because Tenorio or his backers chose to go public with the difference in opinion.
Uytengsu's principles are so straight, the guy has shown through the years, that he won't hesitate to trade players, if they malign the company in any way ..... just a few conferences ago, Devance (an MVP candidate at the time) was traded away, just because he publicly said that he wants more pay - despite already receiving the PBA max contract.
Let's see how the drama unfolds.
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rumors have been circulating since the end of the Jones Cup that LA Tenorio will be traded by Alaska because he doesn't want to heed Alaska's request for him to stop playing for Gilas.. the past 2 days, I've been reading that Tenorio has indeed been traded to one of the SMC teams in a 3-team trade involving Ginebra, San Mig Coffee (dating B-Meg) and Global Batang Pier.. Casio and Barroca are likely going to be involved as well..
naku po. sana wag siya magpa trade or ma trade. sayang kasi siya ang face ng alaska eh.
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naku po. sana wag siya magpa trade or ma trade. sayang kasi siya ang face ng alaska eh.
it's done na daw. papunta na kay Salud yung papers. Petron pala and not Ginebra or San Mig Coffee ang kasali.
LA, Thiele and Wesley Gonzales are out of Alaska tapos papalit sina JV Casio, Dondon Hontiveros at 2013 2nd rd pick. Not sure kung si LA mapupunta sa Petron or Global.
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No confirmation yet .....
ALASKA trades Tenorio, Thiele & Wesley G. ....... gets Casio, Hontiveros & future pick. Other details to follow.
Good stuff for ALASKA ...... basically trading one top PG for another top PG.
They also finally, get that legit SG to backup/tandem with Baguio.
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MANILA, Philippines – Alaska Aces point guard LA Tenorio, the hero of Smart Gilas Pilipinas' recent campaign in the William Jones Cup, will reportedly be traded.
According to a source with knowledge of the situation, Tenorio is reportedly headed to a franchise belonging to the San Miguel Corporation.
The source speculates that the three-time PBA All-Star will eventually land at perennial fan favorites Barangay Ginebra Gin Kings.
Alaska head coach Luigi Trillo declined to comment on the situation.
Tenorio led Gilas to the championship in the 34th Jones Cup last weekend, scoring 20 points including the game-winning jumper in the final game against the United States.
The former Ateneo standout was drafted by the San Miguel Beermen with the fourth over-all pick in 2006.
He was eventually traded to Alaska in 2008 and led the Aces to the title in the 2010 Philippine Cup, where he won co-Finals MVP honors with Cyrus Baguio. – With a report from Boyet Sison, ANC.
nakakalito ???
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to further add to the confusion...
http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22800-ginebra-sweetens-pot-in-bid-to-acquire-casio (http://www.pbaddicts.net/t22800-ginebra-sweetens-pot-in-bid-to-acquire-casio)
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if the current reports are true, parang deja vu lang for Tenorio and Cortez.. Tenorio is headed daw to Ginebra. Global trades Casio to Ginebra for Cortez and Enrico V. Ginebra then trades Casio to Alaska for Tenorio.
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if Casio ends up in BGK, ipapahiram ba siya for the National Team?
will SMC players be loaned to the National Team for the upcoming Fiba Asia?
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personally, i'd pick casio over tenorio.
the rumor mill seems to lead tenorio to ginebra. there are also reports that SanMig Coffee Mixers signed another point guard -- Cris Pacana for one year.
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wag ka malito...
ganito yun...ang original na nag draft...kay LA ay san miguel beermen (Magnolia) kasi nga pamalit kay olsen racela pag nagretiro na...kaya lang hindi nag work out ei...kaya na trade siya....sa Alaska...
nakakalito ???
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if Casio ends up in BGK, ipapahiram ba siya for the National Team?
will SMC players be loaned to the National Team for the upcoming Fiba Asia?
I don't think that Casio will be moved by ALASKA ...... Tenorio will likely end up with BGK, then we'll probably see Cortez & Villanueva end up with GLOBAL PORT.
The question now is ....... will SMC lend Tenorio to GILAS 2.0?
I think yes, since Tenorio's contract allows him to play for GILAS ...... also, the public backlash will be bad, if SMC doesn't allow the Jones Cup hero to play.
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I don't think that Casio will be moved by ALASKA ...... Tenorio will likely end up with BGK, then we'll probably see Cortez & Villanueva end up with GLOBAL PORT.
The question now is ....... will SMC lend Tenorio to GILAS 2.0?
I think yes, since Tenorio's contract allows him to play for GILAS ...... also, the public backlash will be bad, if SMC doesn't allow the Jones Cup hero to play.
yun nga eh. kasi SMC has a history of not lending players to MVP Backed teams eh. sana they unite for flag and country.
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kasi SMC has a history of not lending players to MVP Backed teams eh. sana they unite for flag and country.
pinahiram ng smc si E. Villanueva sir
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mukhang hinuhugot ni T. Cone mga reliable players nya
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pinahiram ng smc si E. Villanueva sir
Villanueva was the lone exception ...... not to belittle Enrico, but he was only allowed by SMC since he's now far from his once dominant form.
Chot Reyes invited top guns James Yap, Lutz, Lassiter, Santos, etc. but these guys were not allowed by SMC top management.
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Villanueva was the lone exception ...... not to belittle Enrico, but he was only allowed by SMC since he's now far from his once dominant form.
Chot Reyes invited top guns James Yap, Lutz, Lassiter, Santos, etc. but these guys were not allowed by SMC top management.
bakit naman ang damot ng smc sa team gilas :P
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Gilas=MVP
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^^ Like I said earlier bro ...... corporate politics / business competition keeps SMC from lending it's players to the MVP-backed GILAS.
When GILAS was first conceptualized, Noli Eala was picked by MVP to be the top honcho ....... However, a falling out occurred after some GILAS 1.0 players and naturalization candidates, complained about delayed salaries ..... also, some funds were apparently missing from the GILAS budget.
MVP's other guys e.g. Frankie Lim all ganged-up on Eala ...... soon afterwards, Eala was rightfully fired.
A few days later, rival SMC hired Eala to lead it's basketball operations.
Noli "Loverboy" Eala has an axe to grind with the MVP camp
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bakit naman ang damot ng smc sa team gilas :P
even MC47 was invited by Chot. i remember before that there was an article wherein Chot identified specific players from all the teams in the pba to be part of the training pool. sayang kasi if nag give way lahat ng teams and buong puso participation eh very competitive tayo.
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hmmm,biglang laki ng market value ni tenorio ngayun after his heroics in fiba,i was hoping cone could persuade him to move to san mig coffee since under tim cone naman talaga lumabas ang galing nya sa pba.saka importante sa triangle ni tim yung madiskarteng point guard not necessarily a great scorer.with j yap as a shooting guard tenorio will just pick his time to contribute during the game.i remembered nag shine talaga sya ng husto nung kakampi nya si miller and devance sa aces nun,nung pumalit si baguio and jr reyes(who are very inconsistent) medyo nag suffer yung game ni la because napilitan sya maging scorer and a facilitator at the same time.
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after posting my reply above i found this article which said that la will be traded to san mig coffee ;D
http://mb.com.ph/articles/371632/tenorio-trade-to-bmeg-eyed.
how i wish this is true
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proposed deal 1 or 2?
Aces to send Tenorio to Ginebra in proposed three-team deal
ALASKA Milk point guard LA Tenorio is headed to Ginebra San Miguel under a proposed three-team deal also involving PBA newcomer Global Port that will have JV Casio taking Tenorio's place with the Aces.
The complicated deal has already been approved on Thursday by Alaska, which is also set to get Ginebra's second-round pick in 2015 as part of the proposed Tenorio-Casio swap.
However, the trade is dependent on another transaction between Ginebra and Global Port over Casio, the top pick overall in last year's rookie draft.
According to sources, Ginebra and Batang Pier officials are deep in negotiations trying to hammer out the deal at posting time.
The trade is also subject to approval of the Commissioner's Office.
As of 4 p.m., PBA media bureau chief Willy Marcial said the league has yet to receive a copy of the trade proposal.
The Tenorio deal has sparked a flurry of activities, with the Aces also sending Tenorio's former Ateneo teammate Wesley Gonzales and Hans Thiele to Petron for Dondon Hontiveros.
No matter what happens to the three-team deal, one thing certain is that Tenorio is headed to a new team, just days after playing the hero's role in Smart Gilas 2.0's conquest of the Jones Cup title.
Tenorio attended the Aces' small man practice at the Reyes gym on Thursday morning, after which he was told by coach Luigi Trillo of the proposed deal.
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Source: Spin.ph (http://www.spin.ph/sports/basketball/news/aces-to-send-tenorio-to-ginebra-in-proposed-three-team-deal)
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rumors...rumors...rumors...
ACES Will get casio and hontiveros. GP will get tenorio, thiele and gonzales. Conduit petron will get 2013 2nd round pick. then GP witll trade tenorio for BGSMs villanueva and cortez.
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Hope this will help boost the roster of smart gilas 2.0 team in their next competition in japan. Matauhan sana ang SMC nito.
http://sports.inquirer.net/60228/aquino-could-boost-gilas-fiba-asia-bid
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Hope this will help boost the roster of smart gilas 2.0 team in their next competition in japan. Matauhan sana ang SMC nito.
http://sports.inquirer.net/60228/aquino-could-boost-gilas-fiba-asia-bid
Let's all hope it happens ..... however, even without PNOY's intervention, SMC has slowly been caving-in due to the public scrutiny (e.g. Arwind Santos publicly saying that wants to play for GILAS 2.0) ..... the backlash is only increasing after the recent GILAS 2.0 Jones Cup win.
OT: It's a bit funny to me, reading about PNOY's offer to help GILAS 2.0 recruit the best players:
PNOY says he wants to get gasoline prices down - yet his uncle controls the largest oil refining and marketing company in the country (PETRON).
PNOY says he wants justice for the people - yet his uncle, the greatest crony of the worst dictator, has yet to see even a single day in jail.
PNOY says he wants to help GILAS 2.0 - yet his uncle controls the elite teams in the PBA, the very same teams that doesn't want to lend players in the first place.
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Let's all hope it happens ..... however, even without PNOY's intervention, SMC has slowly been caving-in due to the public scrutiny (e.g. Arwind Santos publicly saying that wants to play for GILAS 2.0) ..... the backlash is only increasing after the recent GILAS 2.0 Jones Cup win.
OT: It's a bit funny to me, reading about PNOY's offer to help GILAS 2.0 recruit the best players:
PNOY says he wants to get gasoline prices down - yet his uncle controls the largest oil refining and marketing company in the country (PETRON).
PNOY says he wants justice for the people - yet his uncle, the greatest crony of the worst dictator, has yet to see even a single day in jail.
PNOY says he wants to help GILAS 2.0 - yet his uncle controls the elite teams in the PBA, the very same teams that doesn't want to lend players in the first place.
judging by the moves of SMC these past few years, it's obvious that Danding is no longer a big part of the SMC basketball program.. Ramon Ang and Eala na talaga yan.. Danding was at least loyal to his players when he was still involved with SMC.. kaya nga if you look at the people on the bench of Petron and Ginebra, mga Danding boys yung nasa coaching staff.. but these past few years, isa-isang pinalayas ni Ang and Eala.. at least dati, when SMC traded, it was for basketball reasons.. ngayon, vendetta na yung basehan ng moves ng SMC..
take the latest Hontiveros trade.. he's being traded for Thiele and Gonzales who aren't going to play for Petron but for San Miguel in the ABL.. he's virtually being traded for nothing..
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judging by the moves of SMC these past few years, it's obvious that Danding is no longer a big part of the SMC basketball program.. Ramon Ang and Eala na talaga yan..
Yup ..... it's RSA at the helm of SMC.
However, I assure you that the business & sports culture of "eating everything in sight" & "winning at all costs" ..... it's all handed-down from Danding.
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Hontiveros really has little place nowadays in PETRON ...... the shopping spree este trade that SMC did last season, to get Lutz, Lassiter & even Duncil (got from AIR21 for nothing) assures them of prime SG's for this decade.
They also have Yeo, Miranda & blue-chip rookie Mallari.
Good for Hontiveros to get traded to a team with little SG depth ..... he'll get some minutes, which is the lifeblood for players who truly love the sport.
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pa o.t.
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa140/wengkapre/heatbulaga.jpg)
HEAT Bulaga ako dito ! :D :D :D
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PBA Office of the Commissioner APPROVED TRADES as of August 31, 2012: 1. BARAKO - GINEBRA trade: a. BARAKO acquired the rights to Enrico Villanueva, b. GINEBRA acquired the rights to Willie Miller; 2. GINEBRA - GLOBAL PORT trade: a. GINEBRA acquired JV Casio, b. GLOBAL PORT acquired the rights to Willie Miller plus GINEBRA'S 2014 1st rd pick; 3. ALASKA - GINEBRA trade: a. ALASKA acquired the rights to JV Casio plus GINEBRA'S 2015 2nd rd pick, b. GINEBRA acquired the rights to LA Tenorio; 4. ALASKA - PETRON trade: a. ALASKA acquired the rights to Dondon Hontiveros, b. PETRON acquired the rights to Wesley Gonzales and Hans Paul Thiele
i don't see the name of mike cortez.....
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^Mataas na talaga market value ni JV Casio... Willie Miller plus 1st rd draft pick :o
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Tsk tsk..sayang...too late!
http://www.interaksyon.com/interaktv/too-late-for-smc-players-to-join-smart-gilas-in-japan-says-chot-reyes
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former MVP tapos palagi na lang na trade tsk tsk tsk, kung san saan na napunta si miller.
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Me pag ka KAMOTE pala itong si noli at ramon ang. >:(
"We can't act on something that is never there in the first place. But again, let me make it clear that if the players will tell me that they want to play for the national team, we wouldn't be a stumbling block. There is no point of stopping these players from playing for the national team,"
"You're not just talking to a team manager here, because they simply have to let RSA (Ang) know of their intention. If any of our players would come to us and tell us they want to play for Gilas, fine, we'll just tell them to show me a letter of request so we can make the necessary move," said Eala.
ma ka-karma yun buong smc team pag ganyan sila ng ganyan.
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susunod na rin daw si Big J sa Ginebra... PG ha, hindi coach.. ;D
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Massive 5-day trade in the PBA .....
** ALASKA comes out a winner ..... Steven Uytengsu frowns upon players washing dirty laundry in public - like what Tenorio did after the Jones Cup win. Uytengsu has shown many times, that he wont hesitate to trade players if they malign his company in any way.
ALASKA basically made the most from a bad situation ..... they lose Tenorio & a few scrubs, but gains a great young PG in Casio plus Hontiveros (ALASKA has long been shallow in the SG position).
** BGK comes out a winner ..... somewhat.
They lose E. Villanueva - a player who has long been groping for form (after leaving Yeng Guiao) ..... but gains a top PG in Tenorio.
Only question now ..... they have 3 lead PG's in Tenorio, Cortez & Helterbrand ..... they also have reliever PG Labagala ..... Caguioa also plays PG on occasion ...... plus, they drafted 4 PG's from the recent rookie draft !
Is Team Manager Samboy Lim planning to start a security agency ?! ...... seriously, I think Cortez will be traded away soon.
** PETRON is a winner, since they got what they needed the most ..... unload players to ensure minutes for their young core of SG's in Lutz, Lassiter, Mallari, Yeo, Duncil & even Miranda.
Wesgon & Thiele will likely end up with their ABL team ..... to be used for future lopsided deals with Bert Lina teams.
** GLOBAL PORT ..... what where they thinking when they made this trade?
JV Casio is a franchise PG ..... they trade him away for an aged, nervous-wreck-in-the-4th quarter Willie Miller.
It's unlikely that they get a franchise player with the 2014 pick they got, since BGK will surely place high in the year-end standings ...... besides, by 2014, projected blue-chippers Slaughter, Banchero & Pringle are already set to be taken by either ROS or an SMC team.
** BARAKO BULL ...... no true fan of the sport, should pay attention to what Bert Lina does with trades and picks.
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former MVP tapos palagi na lang na trade tsk tsk tsk, kung san saan na napunta si miller.
I have never been impressed by miller's two mvp awards....he won both when the superstars of the league were on the national team.
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I have never been impressed by miller's two mvp awards....he won both when the superstars of the league were on the national team.
exactly
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LA- trade bait for a Legit Center?
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SMC management has long been kicking itself for giving up LA Tenorio years ago ..... Tenorio has been one of the top PG's for some time now, BGK will probably keep him this time.
BGK now has 4 PG's in their active roster (Tenorio, Cortez, Helterbrand & Labagala) ...... plus 4 PG's from the rookie draft (Canada, Zamar, Buensuceso & Tan) ..... I think it's Cortez who will be moved to clear the logjam.
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Is Mikee Romero out to make GLOBAL PORT a competitive PBA franchise .... or just ca$h-in, just like Bert Lina & George Chua?
GLOBAL PORT's recent transactions might provide some answers.
OUT = Sean Anthony & JV Casio
IN = Vic Manuel & Willie Miller (plus a low 2014 1st round pick)
Notes:
Sean Anthony was used as trade conduit, with blue-chip rookie Aldrech Ramos ending up with an SMC team ..... Anthony himself winds up with BARAKO (SMC-owned company .... fronted as a Lina franchise).
JV Casio was used as trade conduit, with LA Tenorio ending up with an SMC team.
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Wala itong global port na ito kala ko pa naman palalakasin nila yun roster nila. :(
JV casio pinalit lang ke miller. :o :o :o
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Yes bgk has three pg but JJ is not the player he use to be. Age and injuries have been catching up on him. He's a third stringer at best at this point in his career. Mike Cortez can start and still a good player. But he's no LA Tenorio. LA is clearly better than him. Cortez will be better off backing him up. Can we say best point guard tandem in the league? And please don't get me started on little Rob. He's a third stringer at best and I'd rather have JJ for that role than him. If you're depending in Rob to play significant minutes, boy you're team is in trouble.
True that they lost a big man and they have no decent center right now. Menk is unsigned, old and injury prone. Just like JJ, third stringer right now. Mamaril is a career backup. He can't handle being full time starter. PRM is too thin and so is Kirby. Losing EVIl hurts but not that much. He's not the same player anymore. He's not the raging bill he once was. He's more of a important backup now. It only hurts losing him because bgk doesn't have a center yet to replace him. So they need one. But of you look player for player trade, Bgk is the winner here. Losing a backup center who occasionally can start and clearly on the downside of his career for a young clutch starting point guard whose proven to carry his team? That's good.
Now ginebra has to get a center. Not necessary a superstar. Just serviceable. They have to use Espiritu, Wilson and maybe Jensen to get one. Perhaps Kramer? Or maybe getting Enrico back?
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^ I was referring to purely headcount (re: BGK's PG situation) ..... they have 4 PG's signed to contracts - Tenorio, Cortez, Helterbrand & Labagala ..... plus 4 PG's from the recent rookie draft.
Regardless of capabilities, one of the signed PG's has to go ...... I think it will be Cortez, since he is still serviceable and will be a far better trade bait than Labagala (e.g. GLOBAL PORT likes Cortez ..... Franz Pumaren would love to have his old PG with AIR21).
I think it will be ultimately Kramer, who'll be sold este traded back to BGK ...... we've seen this kind of MO from Bert Lina, many times before. ;D
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^Global Port is another SMC team, bumebwelo pa for next year..
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yung mga MVP teams, no movements lately?
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Meralco acquired Ronjay Buenafe from RoS
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Meralco acquired Ronjay Buenafe from RoS
i see. approved na ba? last week kasi eh parang under negotiations pa lang.
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another rumor circulating --- JR Reyes and Asi Taulava for Billy Mamaril and Willy Wilson
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another rumor circulating --- JR Reyes and Asi Taulava for Billy Mamaril and Willy Wilson
Taulava possibly playing for BGK would be a box-office hit ..... even at his age, he is still very much serviceable and is still an attraction.
With Villanueva's departure and Menk's impending transfer to the ABL, they need bigs before the 2nd conference.
For some reason, Taulava and MERALCO cant agree to a new deal ..... I'm thinking that Taulava still wants the max contract (350K not the newer 420K), while MERALCO is likely offering lower.
There's only a handful of traditional bigs in the PBA ..... so I guess, Taulava deserves the above average pay.
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Taulava possibly playing for BGK would be a box-office hit ..... even at his age, he is still very much serviceable and is still an attraction.
With Villanueva's departure and Menk's impending transfer to the ABL, they need bigs before the 2nd conference.
For some reason, Taulava and MERALCO cant agree to a new deal ..... I'm thinking that Taulava still wants the max contract (350K not the newer 420K), while MERALCO is likely offering lower.
There's only a handful of traditional bigs in the PBA ..... so I guess, Taulava deserves the above average pay.
Taulava is a good citizen and a good team player. Sana he ends up in a BGK uniform soon.
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Taulava is a good citizen and a good team player. Sana he ends up in a BGK uniform soon.
+1 for Taulava going to BGK, pag natuloy, kumpletos-recados na ;) , yun nga lang wag na sana masama sa trade si W. Wilson :P
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+1 for Taulava going to BGK, pag natuloy, kumpletos-recados na ;) , yun nga lang wag na sana masama sa trade si W. Wilson :P
should BGK get Taulava, make sure lang nila na he is motivated enough na he stays in tip top shape. there are times kasi na wala sa fighting condition siya eh.
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Asi playing for any team in the PBA other than Meralco seems like a long shot now.. they offered him a 2-year deal with max salary and he declined.. no way the MVP group is just going to let him go without getting someone in return.. a trade is the only way but since he's already declined a contract, he can't be traded.. sa ABL na siya mapupunta and from what his agent has been saying, mukhang team-up na talaga sila ni Menk sa San Miguel..
I would have loved to see Asi, Menk and Danny Seigle play for Barako this season.. last hurrah ng mga Fil-Foreigners na nagpabago sa PBA..
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Asi playing for any team in the PBA other than Meralco seems like a long shot now.. they offered him a 2-year deal with max salary and he declined.. no way the MVP group is just going to let him go without getting someone in return.. a trade is the only way but since he's already declined a contract, he can't be traded.. sa ABL na siya mapupunta and from what his agent has been saying, mukhang team-up na talaga sila ni Menk sa San Miguel..
I would have loved to see Asi, Menk and Danny Seigle play for Barako this season.. last hurrah ng mga Fil-Foreigners na nagpabago sa PBA..
+1 and a comeback as well for Andy Seigle =P
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It looks like Japeth Aguilar is done with the PBA ..... for now.
His contract with TnT has expired ..... he has since been trying out for a spot in the NBA D-League.
Recent news indicate that he'll be granted a workout, for a possible slot with the SAN ANTONIO Spurs training camp.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/223432/Spurs_To_Workout_Japeth_Aguilar
Good for Aguilar for following his NBA dream ..... he played behind a solid & winning crew under TnT - didn't get much playing time.
He's a longshot to make it to an NBA roster ..... however, training camp/summer league might be a doable target - much lesser & older players have been known to get perennial invites to these camps.
Who knows, Aguilar is yet to reach his prime ..... he is still 6-9 with good hops ..... also helps that he has some NCAA background.
The pedigree of the SPURS organization might be the spur (pun intended) he needs to realize his potential.
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Trade Rumor:
James Ryan Sena , Rob Reyes and 1 second round pick for Willy Wilson, Rob Labagala and Billy Mamaril
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Trade Rumor:
James Ryan Sena , Rob Reyes and 1 second round pick for Willy Wilson, Rob Labagala and Billy Mamaril
what do you guys think of this trade? personally, sana wag include si willy wilson sa trade. sayang kasi energy player din yan eh. undersized yet effective to play with the bigs.
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luging lugi Air21 if ever.. Sena was great in his rookie year last year.. masipag at walang ere maglaro.. siya lang yung consistent sa Air21 last year.. and he's a lot younger than Wilson and Mamaril.. Wilson and Mamaril are role players at best, pati si Labagala (who, IIRC, has been relegated to the SMB ABL Team already).. they barely even got minutes these past few seasons.. Sena has the potential to be a solid starting center..
parang wish list 'to ng isang Ginebra fan than a tangible trade proposal.. but I could be wrong..