Topic: Plasma vs LCD ?

[DTNS]

panasonic ut30m. simply amazing.

agree!    yan ang balak kong ipalit sa LG 42 ko. 

[barrister]

2012 Shootout Rankings:

1. Panasonic TC-P65VT50 plasma
2. Sharp Elite PRO-60X5FD LCD
3. Samsung PN64E8000 plasma
4. Samsung UNES8000 LCD
5. LG 60PM9700 plasma
6. Panasonic TC-L47WT50 LCD.


Scorecard:



Panasonic VT50 wins Value Electronics 2012 TV picture quality shootout
The Panasonic TC-P65VT50 plasma beat five other 2012 TVs,
compiling the most votes among various areas of picture quality.
by David Katzmaier |May 22, 2012 1:29 PM



http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57439424-221/panasonic-vt50-wins-value-electronics-2012-tv-picture-quality-shootout/

[barrister]

LCD has really come a long way.  Grant Clauser of Electronic House says that with real world BD content, all of the TVs tested looked good.


Once all the test patterns were finished, we checked out some movie clips so get a sense of the TVs’ real world performance. Here’s where things get interesting. On test patterns, all the issues, strengths and weaknesses were easily apparent, but when watching a Blu-ray discs, you really had to be looking for trouble to see it, and even then, in most cases, any deficiencies weren’t drastic. A few of the TVs overall looked better than others, but none of them looked bad (remember, each TV had been professionally calibrated to its peak performance). A few of the enthusiasts in the audience remarked that they’d be happy with any of the TVs.

But, of course, a contest needs a winner. According to my score card, the Panasonic plasma VT50 came out on top, with both the Elite LCD and Samsung plasma landing in second.  Value Electronics posted the official winner (tallied from all the audience score cards) Monday, and awarded the winner’s title to the VT50.

So aside from knowing which of these six TVs came out on top, what else could be gleaned from this exercise? Throughout the evaluation, the calibrators would point out settings in each TV that would do bizarre and detrimental things to the picture—and in most cases these settings were promoted as features by the makers of the TVs. Artificial black level enhancements, edge enhancements, motion interpolation, dynamic picture modes and so on are all features promoted by TV manufacturers, but which go against producing an optimal picture. Most of those features can and should be turned off, and in fact some of them can be corrected quite easily by turning on things like THX or Cinema modes.

http://www.electronichouse.com/article/value_electronics_hdtv_shootout/D1/

[Stagea]

LCD has really come a long way.  Grant Clauser of Electronic House says that with real world BD content, all of the TVs tested looked good.

Yup. The fact that last year's winner is an LCD tells us just how close things are these days.

[Mrk]

last sunday.. it was my first time to own a brandnew samsung plasma unit when i turned it on i saw a dead pixel and couple of flickering pixels i was very dissapointed.

this never happened to my lcd led purchases.

[ninjababez®]

last sunday.. it was my first time to own a brandnew samsung plasma unit when i turned it on i saw a dead pixel and couple of flickering pixels i was very dissapointed.

this never happened to my lcd led purchases.

AFAIK plasma tv does not have dead pixels.  can you post a pic of the dead & flickering pixel.
did you contact the store for replacement?

[Stagea]

AFAIK plasma tv does not have dead pixels.  can you post a pic of the dead & flickering pixel.
did you contact the store for replacement?

They do get dead and stuck pixels.

[Mrk]

AFAIK plasma tv does not have dead pixels.  can you post a pic of the dead & flickering pixel.
did you contact the store for replacement?

yes told me they will replace it with a new one or even change to other model of my choice.

so plasma? never again!

[barrister]

so plasma? never again!

Personally, I would only say, "Samsung plasma? Never again!" 

[ninjababez®]

Personally, I would only say, "Samsung plasma? Never again!" 

jeff (theaterworks) sells samsung plasma tvs, but always pushing back buyers to get pio kuro and panasonic instead. 

[Mrk]

Lamang kasi sa features and aesthetics si samsung thats what made my decision. Im not into PQ kasi since im looking lang for a big screen with cheap price that made me land buying a plasma.

[kane]

Are samsung plasmas really that bad? Sayang kasi yung 2 years warranty.

[Stagea]

Are samsung plasmas really that bad? Sayang kasi yung 2 years warranty.

They deliver a great picture, in general. I guess medyo mas mataas ang defect rate lately, based sa mga reports dito.

I've seen dead and stuck pixels in other Plasma brands as well, pero mukhang mas madami nga nagcocomplain about Samsung nitong mga nakaraan (sa entry level models in particular).

[DTNS]

yes SNS told me they will replace it with a new one or even change to other model of my choice.

so plasma? never again!

as for me, I am really annoyed by backlight bleeding from LED/ LCD displays. (both monitors and tvs)  I plan to trade-in my LG 42LK450 with a Panny plasma soon. 

[Mrk]

First time ko kasi magkaron ng plasma, talaga bang sobrang init ng screen at likod nito? Literal na pwede kana mag prito ng itlog! Sobrang init nakakapaso hawakan.

[ninjababez®]

First time ko kasi magkaron ng plasma, talaga bang sobrang init ng screen at likod nito? Literal na pwede kana mag prito ng itlog! Sobrang init nakakapaso hawakan.

mine is warm, but not scorching hot.
kamalas mo naman sa unit mo bro   

[Stagea]

First time ko kasi magkaron ng plasma, talaga bang sobrang init ng screen at likod nito? Literal na pwede kana mag prito ng itlog! Sobrang init nakakapaso hawakan.

Normal yung mainit, lalo na pag matagal ginamit and maliwanag ang picture. Thinner models may also run hotter dahil wala masyado airflow.

Models with anti glare and black level/contrast improvement filters normally run even hotter with everything else being the same, because they drive their panels harder to compensate. The same is true with active 3D plasmas, as they need the added intensity as the output gets cut by the shutter glasses significantly.

[ferdinand]

First time ko kasi magkaron ng plasma, talaga bang sobrang init ng screen at likod nito? Literal na pwede kana mag prito ng itlog! Sobrang init nakakapaso hawakan.

Nakakapaso, sobrang init ? nagkaroon naman ako 3 beses na plasma tv na pana 42 at 50 inches hindi naman mainit. 

[Stagea]

Nakakapaso, sobrang init ? nagkaroon naman ako 3 beses na plasma tv na pana 42 at 50 inches hindi naman mainit. 

Exaggerated lang siguro yung nakakapaso (safety issue na yun pag ganun). Pero normal yung umiinit lalo pag mataas yung contrast at maraming bright scenes at matagal ang gamit.

[Clondalkin]

Plasma is an effective space heater especially the high-end models.

Winter time, pinaka comfortable and warm sa HT room.  Summer time, pinakamainit sa HT room.

If you think you can cook an egg with your plasma's heat, that's a fire hazard.  Call for help immediately.

[ninjababez®]

Exaggerated lang siguro yung nakakapaso (safety issue na yun pag ganun). Pero normal yung umiinit lalo pag mataas yung contrast at maraming bright scenes at matagal ang gamit.

parang dsl modem lang, very warm but not too hot to touch. 

[Stagea]

parang dsl modem lang, very warm but not too hot to touch. 

Tama ka diyan, panginoong Jamy!

[greatauror28]

Been breaking-in my 50 incher LG for a few days now but did not notice it getting hotter than normal.
I usually watch 1 to 2 movies everyday in stretched or full mode to avoid getting BI or IR.
Or it's just cold in here, maybe?

[Stagea]

Been breaking-in my 50 incher LG for a few days now but did not notice it getting hotter than normal.
I usually watch 1 to 2 movies everyday in stretched or full mode to avoid getting BI or IR.
Or it's just cold in here, maybe?

Perhaps, or maybe that model has good ventilation. If you have the contrast turned up to maximize the panel's max intensity, you'd likely get a fair amount of heat (especially if you're watching brighter material like the news).

[Clondalkin]

The warmer the panel, the higher the plasma panel quality.    .  Kaya nga meron ventilation fan kapag high-end models na.

Check nyo kung gaano kainit yung Pioneer Kuro and Panasonic V series.

[Stagea]

The warmer the panel, the higher the plasma panel quality.    .  Kaya nga meron ventilation fan kapag high-end models na.

Check nyo kung gaano kainit yung Pioneer Kuro and Panasonic V series.

Kinda true.

The cool-running plasmas tend to be the ecology-oriented ones. PQ oriented ones tend to burn hotter and take more power.

[Allan_2180]

My Panasonic P42ST30 runs normally at around 40Deg. and has two ventillating fans in a non-aircon room.

[babykoy]

bright room (i.e. living room with several windows) = LED

entertainment/dark room = plasma

[Destroben]

Are samsung plasmas really that bad? Sayang kasi yung 2 years warranty.

Nope only loyal panny fans and pio elitist make it sound horrendous. And come on people, syempre mas madami kang makikita nag rereklamo regarding sa isang TV plasma or LCD specially sa forums. Im not a sammy fan i just do not care what brand the TV is as long as the PQ is good for my eyes and budget. I just really hate ignorant comments from fanboys.

And regarding the sammy plasma mine broke down after the 1st 30 days then they replaced it after 4 days been using it for 7 months now 1500+ hours still good. And who knows maybe If I bought a panny or an LG baka malas din and masira din after 30 days. Its just down to bad luck.

[ABCmotorparts]

The warmer the panel, the higher the plasma panel quality.    .  Kaya nga meron ventilation fan kapag high-end models na.

Check nyo kung gaano kainit yung Pioneer Kuro and Panasonic V series.

Now I know why my PV70 still rocks back home,...