Topic: Plasma vs LCD ?

[Stagea]

based on my own experience, Plasma TVs has a better Picture Quality compared to that of LEDs and LCDs, kc pinagtabi ko yung LED, LCD and PLasma sa isang shop sa harison plaza. Yung details nababawasan sa LED at LCD, sample yung butas sa mukha ng tao, sa liwanag ng LED minsan natatabunan at nawawala yung mga butas sa mukha or in photography terms parang Over Exposed ang picture.

Madalas po ang reason nyan eh improper display calibration. Ang default settings po ng most TVs compromised madalas either to make the TV stand out sa showroom or to quote lower power consumption. Pag properly set ang display dapat hindi nagcliclip ang highlights at shadow detail masyado, unless clipped na yung material in the first place. Minsan din masyado aggressive yung noise reduction kaya nagkakaganyan.

Madalas kasi sa lower end displays pinapabayaan nila magclip ang extremes para maging punchy yung midtones ng image maski mababa ang contrast ratio nung panel. A well calibrated high end flat panel TV, mapa LCD (CCFL or LED backlight man yan) or Plasma pa yan eh dapat maganda ang picture, imo. Once corrected, the picture should be more alike than different.

Ang entry level displays malaki din ang improvement with calibration, pero siyempre di mo normally maaabot yung PQ ng higher end TVs with better panels, backlights (for LCDs), and image processing.

[♡ lvcdg23™ ✌]

Pagregular cable viewing(without the digi box) po ba ano mas maganda between plasma ang lcd?

[Stagea]

Pagregular cable viewing(without the digi box) po ba ano mas maganda between plasma ang lcd?

Plasmas usually have an advantage when displaying substellar images (such as SD cable). This is because the thicker front substrate and the light source nature of the plasma cells allow the panel to disperse the light more, softening the apparent picture (and hiding imperfections in the process).

LCDs typically have a thinner front substrate, and their transmissive nature means that they could only let light pass through in a more limited angle range. This gives the typical LCD image a sharper look, especially with high contrast edges (which can accentuate a poor video source). Despite this, video processing can more than compensate for this shortcoming, especially among higher end models (as they come with more capable video engines).

Plasmas would probably win in this application in most cases, but don't rule out good LCDs as they can still give an excellent image with this use.

[ninjababez®]

Both (reflective and flat) are available especially sa high-end full array LED models.

The glossy high end Bravia is very very reflective.

ito kaya ang dahilan kung bakit, maganda ang PQ nila compared sa older, non reflective screens dati?  im now suspecting glare helps in improving the PQ  

[ninjababez®]

hehehe

puro daw kasi LED na high end binibili mo hahaha

hanggat may plasma bro, di ako bibili ng led or lcdtv 

[ferdinand]

hanggat may plasma bro, di ako bibili ng led or lcdtv 

Plasma TV is the best, malayo ang difference iba ang picture quality.     
Malayo talaga. 

[barrister]

ito kaya ang dahilan kung bakit, maganda ang PQ nila compared sa older, non reflective screens dati?  im now suspecting glare helps in improving the PQ  

Hindi naman yung glare ang nakaka-improve ng PQ, side-effect lang yon.  Ang talagang nakaka-improve ay yung smooth surface ng screen.

Sa matte screen, the picture has to pass a screen that scatters the light from the panel.  This causes the picture to have reduced contrast, reduced black levels and reduced color intensity.

Sa gloss screen, the picture passes virtually unchanged though a clear screen.  Ang side-effect lang, may glare from light in the viewing room.

Lower-end LCDs are usually have a matte screen because they're meant to be viewed in the average living room, which is usually bright.  Higher-end LCDs usually have a gloss screen because they're meant to be viewed in an enthusiast's dedicated home theater with controlled lighting.  

In fact, applicable din ang principle na yan sa mga ibang items na hindi TV  :


Laptops:


Matte on the left; gloss on the right (deeper colors and blacks)


Black Plastic:


Gloss on the left (deeper black); matte on the right (grayish black).  


Book Paper:


Glossy book cover on the left; mattte on the right.


Nail Polish:


Matte nail polish, with gloss nail polish on the edges.


Photo Prints:


http://www.snapsbywalgreens.com/choosing-glossy-or-matte-photos/

[45caliber]

another well done explanation barrister.. ikaw na.. ang idol, hehehehe

[lncc63]

The best way is to audition.  Go to a big store and ask which are plasma and which are LCD or LED.  Have the store staff play the same material on both then switch your eyes from one to the other, the difference will be clear as day. 

An interesting decision point nowadays among plasma TVs is between the "small" (42") Full HD models and the "big" (50") HD Ready models which are similarly priced.

[ninjababez®]

sa laptops naman although mas maganda talaga ang PQ ng glare screen, mas prefer ko parin ang matte.  hirap kasi magbrowse sa labas ng bahay lalo na at maliwanag 
wala narin akong makitang mainstream laptops na may matte screen. 

[TonyC]

Which among panasonic, samsung or LG would have the best PQ?

[TonyC]

Which among panasonic, samsung or LG would have the best PQ?

...am referring to Plasmas...thanks!

[raider125jeigh]

Which among panasonic, samsung or LG would have the best PQ?

many said its panasonic

[Philander]

Which among panasonic, samsung or LG would have the best PQ?

Panasonic, plus it has no floating black issues.

[ABCmotorparts]

Panasonic VIERA,..!

Best picture quality without breaking your wallet too much...

[Clondalkin]

Meron bang high end plasma models ang Samsung and LG na similar sa grade ng Panasonic G or V series?

When you compare different makes, make sure you are comparing similar grade models.

[barrister]

Pero kung general answer lang ang kailangan, Panasonic din ang sagot ko.

[Stagea]

Kung Plasma PQ: Sa lower models na current, I'd say Samsung may upper hand. Sa higher models, maybe Panasonic.

Medyo malayo na sa ideal ang default image calibration ng lower models ng Panny, imho. At wala silang readily accessible controls to correct this.

Pero when it comes to reliability, sa Panasonic ako. So far parang kokonti ang defective units na nilalabas nila.

[sientobente]

Kung Plasma PQ: Sa lower models na current, I'd say Samsung may upper hand. Sa higher models, maybe Panasonic.

Medyo malayo na sa ideal ang default image calibration ng lower models ng Panny, imho. At wala silang readily accessible controls to correct this.

Pero when it comes to reliability, sa Panasonic ako. So far parang kokonti ang defective units na nilalabas nila.

Master, sa lower end na LCD anu naman ang irerecommend niyo?

[booknoi]

Balak ko bumili ng Panasonic 42X30V Plasma TV for PS3 gaming. Talaga bang 1 year lang ang warranty ng Panasonic unlike sa iba na 2 years?

[ninjababez®]

Balak ko bumili ng Panasonic 42X30V Plasma TV for PS3 gaming. Talaga bang 1 year lang ang warranty ng Panasonic unlike sa iba na 2 years?

panasonic kasi japanese brand.  madalas sa korean brand yung mahaba ng konti ang warranty.
one good example sa mga kotse, i read somewhere na 5 years ata warranty ng korean cars, while 2 or 3 years (or mileage, whichever comes first) sa japanese brands. 

[tein]

panasonic kasi japanese brand.  madalas sa korean brand yung mahaba ng konti ang warranty.
one good example sa mga kotse, i read somewhere na 5 years ata warranty ng korean cars, while 2 or 3 years (or mileage, whichever comes first) sa japanese brands. 

+1 

[booknoi]

Pero diba ang Sony eh Japanese brand?

[Stagea]

Balak ko bumili ng Panasonic 42X30V Plasma TV for PS3 gaming. Talaga bang 1 year lang ang warranty ng Panasonic unlike sa iba na 2 years?

Kung purely for gaming, baka gusto mo check out ang LCD options din.

[barrister]

Practical Home Theater Guide thinks plasma is still the better choice for big screen TVs.

Compare the first page for LCD vs the first page for plasma:



January 27, 2012
The Complete LCD TV Guide
Are you thinking of buying a new CCFL or LED LCD TV?

...It is only natural to compare LCD TVs (LED TVs are still LCD TVs) with their Plasma counterparts, in particular when it comes to picture performance. While one cannot say that both display technologies are equal, there is no doubt that the best LCD TVs are just a hairline away from their best plasma counterparts; in particular, this is so with the latest LED LCD TVs using a full array backlight with local dimming technology.

http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/LCD-Tv.html




Date: March 6, 2012
The Complete Plasma Television Guide
Plasma TVs: Delivering more for less
Plasma... still the primary choice in big screen TV entertainment

...There is no denying; plasma delivers more for less! It is the best all-rounder display technology and the primary choice among those looking for the best picture, irrespective of whether it is for use in the home theater, sports and gaming, or just about anyone who wants a big screen TV for general viewing.

http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/Plasma-television.html

[Destroben]

Regarding the plasma brands we all know for a fact that the panasonic have deeper blacks but I also find the brightness and colors too dull for my taste. Sa sammy naman their plasma's are really bright and the colors are much better than the pannies but the blacks are not as deep. ( Need pa ng manual pot tweak inside the TV to reach atleast the panny GT30 blacks )

By the way I am talking about the 2011 models.

@Clondalkin

Yes bro meron

Panny VT30 = Samsung PS/PN D8000
GT30 = D7000/D6500
ST30 = D550
X30 = D490 or D450 if wala 3D

[barrister]

New $3,000 Panny LED has better black levels than $6,000 Sharp Elite LED:






Panasonic 2012 TC-L55WT50 LED LCD HDTV- First Review
March 15th, 2012

...The minimum black level produced an amazingly low 0.002 ft lamberts. This is the lower limit of our Minolta LS100 light meter and the lowest black level we have seen since the last generation of the Pioneer Elite plasma! Please note this is with the LEDs “on” (some sets turn them off when fed a black test signal). To date we have not received a sample Sharp Elite LED HDTV, however our esteemed colleagues at Home Theater magazine measured it with the LED backlight “on” at 0.011 ft lamberts, a level over five times higher than the WT50.

http://hdguru.com/panasonic-2012-tc-l55wt50-led-lcd-hdtv-first-review/7619/

[Tavus]

omg better blacks than sharp elite and equal pioneer elite!!! impossible! My jaw drop when i read that.
that will be my dream TV.

[ABCmotorparts]

I just got back from Best Buy,
its like the mothership calling me, damn...

The unit that I left back at home was a 42PV70 plasma HDTV,
and has served me quite well, I love it resolution and picture quality...

Now, that I'm in the US, and saw some of the tech here,
my brother in law uses a 55" 3D LED by Samsung, connected to a Direct TV satellite,
and MAN,.! The resolution is awesome,.! The picture is quite stunning, and I fell in love with it,..

When I went to Best Buy this morning, I was intent on getting a 65" Panasonic Viera,
was thinking that Plasma is still the way to go,.. But yet again, the 65" Viera was sitting right
beside the 65" LED of Samsung, the brightness was a huge factor, as well as the contrast,
but DAMN, the Samsung was pretty impressive, now I am torn between this two unit,..
an LED or a Plasma,.. Time to do some more research,..

 

[Clondalkin]

What specific Viera model were you comparing with the LED?

When I went to Best Buy this morning, I was intent on getting a 65" Panasonic Viera,
was thinking that Plasma is still the way to go,.. But yet again, the 65" Viera was sitting right
beside the 65" LED of Samsung, the brightness was a huge factor, as well as the contrast,
but DAMN, the Samsung was pretty impressive, now I am torn between this two unit,..
an LED or a Plasma,.. Time to do some more research,..