Guys,
Do u have any feedbacks abt hk avr2000 and hk avr 4000 (310)?
Which is better HK AVR4000? or Yamaha RXV-8000?
:)
Thanks in advance
mynameiswaltz,
syempre i'm using one of the best speakers available.. Dynaudios!!! i'm using dynaudio audiences 40's for my fronts and the huge dynaudio C120+ as my center speaker..
;D
muscleboy,
pareho tayo ng speakers. what electronics do you use? i use NAD. what sub did you match your Dyns to? i used REL.
i still love 'em. it'll be some time before i even think of an upgrade. by getting the dyns, i can now focus my savings to other parts of my system.
Muscleboy,
The rating of your AVR-4000 is 50W on what impedance, 8 ohms? And I think Dynaudio speakers have lower sensitivity of, I think 86db or lower. I'm just concern, what's the setting of your volume dial on reference tone? And try to watch movies on this setting while monitoring your AVR's heat dissipation. I did not buy the HK because of its lower power rating and I might be wrong. My friends were also concern on the rating of Denon to complement lower sensitivity of NHT and AT. Please comment based on your experience. Thank you.
DTS,
This is just a sample comparison since you did not specify the exact model to be compared between Harman/Kardon and Yamaha.
Just click the links…..
http://www.yamaha.com/cgi-win/webcgi.exe/Specs/?gAVR00010RX-V800
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/stores/detail/-/electronics/B000051SDO/tech-data/ref=ase_pinoydvd-20
okey! ;)
Thanks Vax. But what particular spec do I look at in order to know that one receiver is of a higher current than the other?
In short, I'd like to know where I can see (in the specs) HK's so-called High Current design compared to others.
muscleboy,
Just bought the HK over the weekend, am I must say ang ganda ng SQ niya! Still have to buy though my centers and fronts. Have decided on the Diamond 8.2s; might buy them anytime this week.
12 monkeys, standby muna kayo at kelangan ko pang makabili ng stands before 'you know what'. ;D
Hi Grail! musta na? I bought the 8.2s (front & center) at Tech Central, Makati Cinema Square for P10,500. I also bought 2 pairs of Lovan stands for P2,200ea. Tapos free membership na sa DVD rental nila. Pero I would stay away from their rental kasi nga masungit yung #^!*@#@*! babae dun! ;D
ok na ba yung issue sa OSD?
kamusta yung mga US model na H/K may nabibilhan ba dito? di ba 100~110 VAC yun.
wala akong naririnig na Asian model na H/K para bagay sa NTSC nating TV.
Thanks walts! musta na rolla mo? OK ba tunog ng wharf mo? i'm planning to buy one kasi medyo mura sya compared sa iba, eh. siguro punta muna ako sa makati square para mag-audition. and ano nga pala impedance rating nya?
Is the AVR2000 the only HK receiver that costs under 20K? If so, what's the current lowest price you found, and where? I think Architectural Audio sells them for 19K++. If you know any lower cos H/K receivers, let me know :)
I was planning to get the Yamaha RX-V420 for like 13-14K, but then I have read about the H/K being much more neutral (uncolored) than the Japanese AVR's. Is it worth getting an H/K receiver over the Yamaha RX-V420? the H/K AVR2000 i thinkhas high-current 40W/channel in HT, while the Yamaha has 65W/channel. How does the high-current, but only 40W H/K compare in volume to the 65++W Yamaha RX-V series?
Any reviews/feedback on the Harman Kardon AVR 3000?
Meron bang store na nagbebenta ng american model dito? AVR210, AVR310, etc. I'm looking for one...
cyber, how much?
hey cybermms,
those are great. where did you get it? from the states? will the warranty be covered here?
To all present Harman Kardon Owners preferably the AVR-2000,3000,4000
5.1 channel recievers.
This units are rated at 40w x 5 to 50w x 5 high current in the higher models.
Does it really play loud and powerful like a 75watt 30*yamaha, 1602 denon or 500 onkyo?
Please tell me how harman kardon can say 40Watts and sound like a 100Watts
Heard a HK avr4000 and was impressed with it.
I also liked the Yamaha 430 bec it is cheap with decent features. and a 75W rating (daw)
Ariel,
Like any manufacturers, h/k will the ship the newer models when the inventory of the older models have almost diminished. We suspect that this will happen in 3 months time. We will keep you posted.
Regards,
Architectural Audio
doubletap: for me dpl2 is not much of a leap for me since I found the logic7 decoding found in my h/k receiver better. But you are right, once you get back to singapore buy the NAD right away, its a steal for that price and take good care of it...you don't want to spend sleepless nights waiting for it to get repaired once it conks out for some reason ;D Now if only they would sell the h/k receivers for less ::)
Pre, luma na ang AVR4000. newest models i heard in the market are AVR1550 (PHP18,900.00), AVR2550 (PHP20,500.00) and AVR3550 (PHP24,990.00). check these models around.
Pre, luma na ang AVR4000. newest models i heard in the market are AVR1550 (PHP18,900.00), AVR2550 (PHP20,500.00) and AVR3550 (PHP24,990.00). check these models around.
Looks good sounds even better ;D
I auditioned the HK5500..and sa lahat nang inaudition ko Onkyo TXSR600, Marantz SR5300, Denon 1803 da best yung HK..kaya if ur budget is 34k for receiver go get ur self the HK5500 yun nga lang ull need a separate amp to make it 6.1 or 7.1
I auditioned the HK5500..and sa lahat nang inaudition ko Onkyo TXSR600, Marantz SR5300, Denon 1803 da best yung HK..kaya if ur budget is 34k for receiver go get ur self the HK5500 yun nga lang ull need a separate amp to make it 6.1 or 7.1
Maganda ang tunog paired with what speakers?
sir enygma
bka pede pm mo naman sakin kung kano mo nakuha ang hk mo at anong model 3500 ba or 5500.
tenx ;D
bro enygma,
tenx, na-audition mo rin ba ang denon 1803 so anong sa tingin mo ang okey doon?
newbie kasi ako... at di ko alam kung ano ang kukunin ko HK, Marantz or denon.
:D
before para kang pinapatulog esp. if your playing jazz
which model of HKs among the 3 (2550 3550 5500) ang katapat ng denon 1803?
thanks...........
bladE. 8)
isnt this an old model since avr x25 series are out in the market? kaya medyo baba na presyo HK here?
sir enygma anong speakers ang match mo sa 5500 mo?
cge qatarman uwi ka na bili ka ng hk reciever ;Dive tried pare pro di pa available sa archi audio ;D ;D ;D ;D
sir enygma anong speakers ang match mo sa 5500 mo?
wala pa sa akin iyung hk5500 ko but my speakers are b&w 601s2. buti na lang merong b&w 601s3 sa architectural audio kaya iyun ang ginamit namin sa demo. and since nagandahan ako sa tunog ng harman with the b&w, panatag ang loob ko na matched siya doon sa speaker na na gagamitin ko. i asked nico kung namimili ba ng speaker iyung harman. ang sagot niya is dapat daw ay di namin ipares sa "dull" na speakers. he means the speakers should have good highs.
Yehey, dumadami ang mga Harman Kardon Fanatics.
Harman Kardon Rules!!
Bro what model of HK do you own? Can you also share your reviews? Thanks!!
Bro what model of HK do you own? Can you also share your reviews? Thanks!!
Currently wala pa (I currently owned a Prologic Receiver).
I just auditioned most of the receivers (except marantz) with the price ranged from 15K to 25K.
And the best to my ears are the H/K Receivers.
I am eyeing for the 3550 model. Probably this coming month of April.
Will post my review.
sir enygma, mukhang ilang araw na lang ang paghihintay natin sa hk... dumating na raw at nasa custom na so insiallah by monday nasa archie audio na he he he ;D ;D ;D konting tiis na lang ;D ;D ;D
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sir enygma, mukhang ilang araw na lang ang paghihintay natin sa hk... dumating na raw at nasa custom na so insiallah by monday nasa archie audio na he he he ;D ;D ;D konting tiis na lang ;D ;D ;D
qatarman, long time no hear ha. :) so harman na rin pala ang pinili mo in the end. nagaudition ka pa ba ng ibang a/v receivers aside from harman. comments naman diyan!!! i got a reply from archie audio na nasa customs na nga iyung mga bagong dumating na unit and by early next week na ang dating sa kanila. konting tiis na lang ba? actually, sobrang pagtitiis na talaga dahil almost a month na akong di nakakapanood ng dvd eh because iyung previous unit ko ay nabili na. hehehe what about your speakers? nakabili ka na rin ba?
Qatarman: how much is your budget for the speakers ?
I suggest you have your front and rear as floorstanders try the AA4 speakers from nirvblakr. you can see the pics from this site: http://photos.yahoo.com/nirvblakr , sayang kasi maganda yang avr5500 and it should power those speakers with ease :) why am I confident with that? my NADT752 matches well with the floorstanding speakers I bought from nirvblakr and it can play it loud..real loud and with bass to boot ;D The h/k 5500's amps should work well also. just my two cents.
enygma, just visited archie audio today at ive met nico (veryaccommodating guy). stayed there for less than an hour hoping na later today ay darating ang hk but to no avail..... but nico guranteed me na this week definitely lalabas na sa customs. ;D ;D ;D ;D ginaya na kita binayaran ko na rin since nangako na si nico eh ;D ;D ;D ;D insiallah........ before friday makuha ko na then off to nirvblkr for my speakers.... ;D ;D ;D....Quote
sir enygma, mukhang ilang araw na lang ang paghihintay natin sa hk... dumating na raw at nasa custom na so insiallah by monday nasa archie audio na he he he ;D ;D ;D konting tiis na lang ;D ;D ;D
qatarman, long time no hear ha. :) so harman na rin pala ang pinili mo in the end. nagaudition ka pa ba ng ibang a/v receivers aside from harman. comments naman diyan!!! i got a reply from archie audio na nasa customs na nga iyung mga bagong dumating na unit and by early next week na ang dating sa kanila. konting tiis na lang ba? actually, sobrang pagtitiis na talaga dahil almost a month na akong di nakakapanood ng dvd eh because iyung previous unit ko ay nabili na. hehehe what about your speakers? nakabili ka na rin ba?
enygma, just visited archie audio today at ive met nico (veryaccommodating guy). stayed there for less than an hour hoping na later today ay darating ang hk but to no avail..... but nico guranteed me na this week definitely lalabas na sa customs. ;D ;D ;D ;D ginaya na kita binayaran ko na rin since nangako na si nico eh ;D ;D ;D ;D insiallah........ before friday makuha ko na then off to nirvblkr for my speakers.... ;D ;D ;D....Quote
bwe he he he tama ka, isa pang dahilan eh kaya binayaran ko na eh nagagastos ko lang ang pambili ko. Magastos ang nakabasyon, puro palabas walang papasok ;D ;D ;D ;D tatawag ako bukas ke nico at follow up ko kung may definite date na ang delivery sa archie audio. ;D ;DQuoteQuote
hahaha. nagbayad ka na rin pala. baka kasi may mapadaang ibang gustong bumili at maunahan pa tayo noh. ;D ineexpect natin na darating na tapos nung nandiyan na nabenta naman kaagad at naubos. ang kinalabasan antay tayo ulit. hehehe actually, nung mga time na naghahanap ako ng receiver ng harman, nakakita rin ako ng avr 5500 sa spectra but i decided na sa archie na bumili because of the service that i've got from them. pag napapadaan nga ako sa shop nila to inquire about something, inaabot na ako ng pagsasara ng shop nila dahil sa kwentuhan. last time na nandoon ako ay may nagpademo ng avr 2550. and nakita ko talaga how they treat their customers. superb talaga! kaya nga di na ako nagtataka kung bakit ikaw nagbayad na rin tulad ko. ;D ;D ;D
congrats in your new harman receiver, bro. enygma! ;D
enjoy...please post your reviews here for our fellow members...
bro. qatarman, ikaw din ha, advanced congrats!!! ;D
thanks!
congrats in your new harman receiver, bro. enygma! ;D
enjoy...please post your reviews here for our fellow members...
bro. qatarman, ikaw din ha, advanced congrats!!! ;D
thanks!
superman 8)
tenx, got mine as well nice meeting you enygma. congrats at na set up mo na. me i have not kasi no time din binuksan ko pa lang ang box at binabasa basa ang manual. you are right enygma hindi ganoon kagaling ang harman sa manual. ang kapal ng manual nila kala ko intensive ang info iyon pala konti lang kya kumapal dahil translated sa 100 languages he he he he....
i guess set ko ang hk ko next week na dahil medyo busy rin ako dahil lagi akong tinatawagan ni bush sa plano nila ;D ;D ;D
post ko na lang ang question... definitely meron iyon.
;D
nagulat nga ako dahil kinabukasan may nag ring ng door bell namin na kapitbahay ko at nanghihiram ng mga audio cds ko. ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D
nagulat nga ako dahil kinabukasan may nag ring ng door bell namin na kapitbahay ko at nanghihiram ng mga audio cds ko. ;D ;D ;D ;D
Buti na lang ganoon pala ang kailangan nila.. akala ko magrereklamo dahil sa speakers mo... ;D
a friend of mine just got into the HT hobbie and got himself one of those HK packages sold by Archi Audio. the set was matched with JBL speakers. the combo sounded great!
anyone else using JBLs with a Harman?
i saw a harman kardon 3000 here in qatar on sale around 900 riyals == USD 246.
I don't know if it's a good catch ???
Just bought an HK AVR2550 from Archi. I was just able to set-up the connections last night, later yun system config, hehehehe, can't wait na for tonight!
oo nga eh puro HK nasa isip ko eh. lahat ng store na tiningnan ko rito hinahanap ko harman kardon eh. actually demo unit iyon at mukhang mapapababa pa ng 700 riyals little less than 200 dollars. Kako sa kasamahan ko kunin na eh so babalikan nya this week. ;D ;D ;Di saw a harman kardon 3000 here in qatar on sale around 900 riyals == USD 246.
I don't know if it's a good catch ???
pre mukhang puro harman na lang ang tinitingan mo diyan ha. hk fanatic ka na rin tulad ng iba kasama na ako. hehehehe ;D ;D iyung hk3550 sa archie audio cost about 20k plus so ok na rin siya sa price niya. kung pamimiliin mo ako between yamaha 430 and hk3000, i'll pick the hk pa rin. ;D ;D ;D
Just bought an HK AVR2550 from Archi. I was just able to set-up the connections last night, later yun system config, hehehehe, can't wait na for tonight!pre congrats and welcome to hk club. ;D ;D enjoy your new baby? ;D ;D ;D
a friend of mine just got into the HT hobbie and got himself one of those HK packages sold by Archi Audio. the set was matched with JBL speakers. the combo sounded great!dude kmi, hk 3550 jbl scs138
anyone else using JBLs with a Harman?
pre congrats and welcome to hk club. ;D ;D enjoy your new baby? ;D ;D ;DQuote
Thanks man! tamang tama, long weekend! hehehe :)
hehehe wala pa rin akong sablay kada araw. mapa-vcd o mapa-dvd inaaraw ko na. the more i use my harman, the more na gumaganda ang tunog. unti unti ng nabebreak-in ang unit ko. ;D di ko pa nauumpisahan iyung isang dvd na nahiram ko ngayong araw at bukas ko na lang panonoorin at baka magparinig na naman iyung kapitbahay namin. akala nga nung una iyung kapatid ko ang nagpapatugtog ng malakas pero nung sinabi ng mother ko na ako ang nagpapatugtog at di iyung kapatid ko, biglang kabig pabalik. sabi niya ok lang daw at nasa oras naman daw ang pagpapatugtog ko. :P ;D
hey since the hk5500 has only 5 built in amplifiers, how much is an amplifier if I want to make it 6.1 or 7.1?
Symon,
Enjoy your new toy. Please feel free to call us should you have any questions.
Cheers,
Architectural Audio
Hi Symon,
You'll only know when the sound ceases to improve. It will probably take 50 hours before it starts to settle down slowly. Usually, when its new, the sound is slow, less detailed yet a bit harsh. With use, the sound becomes faster, more upbeat, exhibits wider and deeper soundstage and becomes smoother.
Have Fun,
Architectural Audio
Exactly mga bro - plantsa na ang ang 5550. In fact, mas malaki pa consumption nyan sa aircon, and aircon needs separate breaker and outlet for that purpose. Pero, ito e kung halos i-full blast mo na si harman sa near full rating nya.
As I said nga, Harman is class A amp, only about 25% efficient than the likes of NAD and Jap amps (about 85-95%). Meaning, sa 1000watts mo (max consumption) 250Watts lang ang music. yung 750 watts mo, tinapon lang ni Harman sa heat dissipated. This is the characteristics ng class A amp.
Kaya yung 1000watts ni harman (using 25%efficient amp), pareho lang yan sa 250watts ng efficient amp.
So that's Harman-Kardon amp design. Buti na lang, may fan (for forced cooling) na si 5550 para mabawasan ang wear and tear ng transistor sa sobrang init.
Exactly mga bro - plantsa na ang ang 5550. In fact, mas malaki pa consumption nyan sa aircon, and aircon needs separate breaker and outlet for that purpose. Pero, ito e kung halos i-full blast mo na si harman sa near full rating nya.
As I said nga, Harman is class A amp, only about 25% efficient than the likes of NAD and Jap amps (about 85-95%). Meaning, sa 1000watts mo (max consumption) 250Watts lang ang music. yung 750 watts mo, tinapon lang ni Harman sa heat dissipated. This is the characteristics ng class A amp.
Kaya yung 1000watts ni harman (using 25%efficient amp), pareho lang yan sa 250watts ng efficient amp.
So that's Harman-Kardon amp design. Buti na lang, may fan (for forced cooling) na si 5550 para mabawasan ang wear and tear ng transistor sa sobrang init.
kung me class A amps ano ano naman ang mga Class B amps. Malaki ba diperensya? ???
tama na.....
lalo ko lang nami miss ang HK ko.... please ;D
di pede eh sharing agreement kami ni misis, malamang pag-uwi ko me mga bagong dvd rin yon eh ;D
dahil hanga rin siya sa bagong set up ;D ;D
Malaki na rin nagagastos ko sa DVD ah.... HT Hidden cost... >:(
di pede eh sharing agreement kami ni misis, malamang pag-uwi ko me mga bagong dvd rin yon eh ;D
dahil hanga rin siya sa bagong set up ;D ;D
di pede eh sharing agreement kami ni misis, malamang pag-uwi ko me mga bagong dvd rin yon eh ;D
dahil hanga rin siya sa bagong set up ;D ;D
Buti ka pa at ayos na ayos sa misis mo sa HT mo...ako kapitbahay ko lang ang humahanga sa setup ko...tapos hanga din sila sa tibay nang katawan ko sa tindi nang gulpi na inabot ko ehehehehe ;D
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Buti ka pa at ayos na ayos sa misis mo sa HT mo...ako kapitbahay ko lang ang humahanga sa setup ko...tapos hanga din sila sa tibay nang katawan ko sa tindi nang gulpi na inabot ko ehehehehe ;DQuote
buti pala ako di na magugulpi dahil by the time na magasawa ako, matindi na sigurado ang set-up ko. unless na di mawala itong itch ko sa ht and audio right after kong magasawa. hehehe sabi nga nila never ending itong hobby na ito. kaya swerte iyung mga may misis na mahilg din sa ht. ang sarap siguro non. ;D ;D ;D
Swerte talaga kung ang asawa mo eh mahilig din sa HT...kasa kasama mo sa panonood ...samantalang ako eh laging nag iisa pag nanonood ehehehe
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di mawawala yan enygma, lalo na pag nakarating ka na sa Dubai ;D ;D Tapos nakita mo ang ROTEL/NAD and siyempre Harman Kardon... ;D Malamang mag-set up ka uli ng bagong HT mo ;DQuote
as of now wala pa kaming balita don sa employer namin. kala ko nga di ko na magagamit ng husto itong receiver ko. if ever mag-upgrade ako, siguro sa wattage na lang ng fronts ko ang babaguhin ko using my pre-outs. para lalong maging mas maganda ang sound niya esp. sa audio. maybe i'll try rotel dahil maganda ang reviews niya don sa ht separates. sa ngayon only in my dreams pa lang ito. hehehehe ;D ;D
actually DVD iyon pro dalawang speakers lang display nya taka nga ako kako duda ko di detected pro natunog naman.. hmmm....
pro pirata iyong kanilang demo di kya iyon ang dahilan ???
So iyong dvd player niya naka set sa PCM ganoon ba yon?
Hi Symon,
You'll only know when the sound ceases to improve. It will probably take 50 hours before it starts to settle down slowly. Usually, when its new, the sound is slow, less detailed yet a bit harsh. With use, the sound becomes faster, more upbeat, exhibits wider and deeper soundstage and becomes smoother.
Have Fun,
Architectural Audio
buti ka pa fully break in na ......
pag-uwi ko nawa ma-break ko ng todo, kaso summer eh siguradong puro swimming ang mangyayari nito. :D
pansin ko nga rin iyon ang ginawa ko me nakatutok na electric fan sa kanya.
pansin ko nga rin iyon ang ginawa ko me nakatutok na electric fan sa kanya.
Ingat ka lang Qman, at baka kung ano na yaang maitutok mo... ;D
Or baka kung saan mo ito maitutok! ;D ;D ;D
pansin ko nga rin iyon ang ginawa ko me nakatutok na electric fan sa kanya.
pansin ko nga rin iyon ang ginawa ko me nakatutok na electric fan sa kanya.
Ganyan din ako, meron akong dedicated small fan na nakatutok sa ibabaw nang AVR ehehehehe..magaling na yung sigurado ehehe
you can get those small fans from true value, i think they are around 500 pesos.thanks archie,
you can get those small fans from true value, i think they are around 500 pesos.thanks archie,
tanong ko lang, have you experienced na kabitan ng phono/lp ang HK. Sa kabilang Yamaha thread kasi prang nagawa nila though sa mataas na model nito.
Enygma, baka makatulong ka nakarining ka ba ng ganito mas maganda ba ang tunog sa CD?
Available ba dito yung HK avr4500?
pagiisipan ko pa... may symptoms na ako ng SARS eh...
kaso kailangan combination ng matitinding reasons para palitan ko yun. hehehe
kailangan ng pera...
may magandang offer...
kasya sa budget ang bagong amp...
pagiisipan ko pa... may symptoms na ako ng SARS eh...
kaso kailangan combination ng matitinding reasons para palitan ko yun. hehehe
kailangan ng pera...
may magandang offer...
kasya sa budget ang bagong amp...
OTpagiisipan ko pa... may symptoms na ako ng SARS eh...
kaso kailangan combination ng matitinding reasons para palitan ko yun. hehehe
kailangan ng pera...
may magandang offer...
kasya sa budget ang bagong amp...
pre, kailangan mo pa ng konting exposure sa SARS. ;D magpademo ka ng hk5500 and di mo na iisiping mahal o wala akong budget o matinding reason para palitan ang receiver mo. mahirap patagalin iyan dahil di ka na patutulugin niyan. buti pa iyung mga maiiwan ko dito sa bahay mageenjoy na sila sa hk na maiiwan ko pagpunta ng abroad. :-[
Hi Yaku, welcome to the forum.
HK is available at SM City, Podium or the computer store building infront of St Pauls QC. Its far from your place but i would still recommend Architectural Audio at New World Hotel, its worth the trip.
Please dont use All CAPS when posting.
Thanks
Levi
Hi Qman!
I dont think this frequency matters! The solid-state amplifier voltage are always DC (direct current). Your amp transformer bring the AC (alternating current) voltage lower, and then pass it to a converter (AC to DC).
The only time that frequency matters is when there is motor involved, or your timer is hooked to AC frequency. For motors, an increase in frequency will mean increase in speed, so if this motor is used in a CD player, this will be a problem. For some cheapy electronic alarm clock (which rather use AC frequency that install a separate crystals to save on cost), an increase in frequency will make your 1 hour for only 50 minutes. But some alarm clock dont depend on AC frequency but have their own crystals components that make their required frequency, which makes frequency (50 or 60) of no effect.
But amplifiers, especially in an all digital world, have no use of AC frequency. HK amp may have clock timers and DACS (at 192khz). In DC circuitry (which amps are), crystals are the one used to deliver required frequency on specific components.
Ask the vendor what would be the effect of the freq to HK amp. I am interested to know his answer.
My comment based on my field.
tama si levi. malayo man ang archie audio oks na oks ang service nila doon. i live near sm city and meron ngang hk/jbl store (sm annex). almost katapat niya ang 5th ave. but still i went to archie audio in makati dahil maganda iyung service na binigay nila sa akin. di ka mahihiyang magpademo sa kanila. from 2 channel to 5.1 to 6.1, lahat idedemo nila sa iyo depende sa preference mo. lastly, walang pressure na bumili ka sa kanila. imagine, bumili ako ng hk5500 na sobrang bigat sa kanila without even thinking na wala naman akong sasakyan at malayo sa bahay namin. di ka magsisisi na bumili ka sa kanila. after sales service is also good. :)
hmmmn...anyone here tried the avr8500 yet ?
hmmmn...anyone here tried the avr8500 yet ?
???
Hi guys newbie here,
just want to ask a question coz i have an avr3550 receiver and I connected both coaxial and optical cable coming from my dvd player. Is it bad to connect them both at the same time?
What could happened then? Which would be better coz I'm using my dvd player as a both vcd,dvd and cd player.
hope that you cud help me out.
o qman bilhin mo nayung nakasale na avr5500 ;D
Bro pa pm naman sa akin kung saang store naka sale yung 5500 at kung magkano ang quotation..thanks!!
banzai,
kita kong onsale ang hk 5500 sa qatar while i was there it is around 380 usd.
Kita ko iyon noong naroon pa ko last 29 April. I don't know kung yon pa rin ang presyo nya pagbalik ko roon before end of may.
nag iisa na lang iyon doon nang makita ko at demo unit pa yata.
sir, i just got mine (5500) last saturday. :)
Thanks Qman. Now I know that the price is cheaper because it's a demo unit.
banzai, actually sabi ng salesman kya mura kasi di raw usable sa pinas diumano ay 50 hz lang daw ang power cycle nya... eh ayon sa archie audio at ke jovskevski wala naman katuturan na ang 50 hz sa panahon ngayon na digital world na he he he he.. dalawa demo unit nila ito iyong isa 50-60 hz power cycle then iyong isa 50hz lang. pag sale pa rin pag balik ko at napadaan ako roon malamang magamit ko ang plastic ko para di mahalata ni misis gaano. ;D
bibilhin yata tapos biamp ang gagawing setup hehehe
the only minor complain for the hk5500 is the monitor out - pal secam. if you dont have a multi-system tv, hindi magamit ang on screen menu. other than that everything is great!
the only minor complain for the hk5500 is the monitor out - pal secam. if you dont have a multi-system tv, hindi magamit ang on screen menu. other than that everything is great!
the only problem i have is the on-screen menu. i think the one i got is european model. they use the hk5500 models for europe and other parts of asia.
ehehehehe ayus yan qman ehehehehe
hehehe pag available lang naman....... nangangarap alam mo na... SARS eh..
bi amp? ;D ;D
san mo binili? dito ba sa pinas? kasi those being sold at spectra eh pwede sa hindi multi system na TV eh. Pero iisa lang naman ang distributor nyan dito sa pinas di ba? yung beyond innovation ata yun
guys,
do you know the current price of HK 2550 and HK3550?
Thanks!
Question to HK fans,
Did I get it right? The 5500 has DTS-ES but only DD5.1. The 5550 is the one with DD EX. Hmmm
Bejiboys
guys,
do you know the current price of HK 2550 and HK3550?
Thanks!
oks na setup ko. Kaya pala mahina bass ng m73i is because i have set my denon to PL II mode but when I changed the settings into a 5ch mode, oks na oks na ang bass nya. That means that I have to stick with my denon and forgo my plan to purchase an HK. I admit though, HKs are really good!
hi, guys!
i would like to connect my Pioneer DVD 355 to my HK receiver via S-Video cable. pero nung sinubukan ko na walang lumalabas na image sa TV. :(
meron lalabas na image for a second pag-plug ng cable pero mawawala rin agad... ??? fyi, naka-unplug 'yung analog connection from the DVD to the reciever nung sinubukan ko 'yung S-Video connection.
when i tried connecting my DVD player directly to the TV via the S-Video cable, okay naman...
anybody experienced the same problem? tulong naman...
thanks in advance for the help.
ah... okay. 'yung receiver-tv connection ko ay composite... sige, will try what you suggested this evening.
thanks, sir courge! :)
how much is the avr 5550? where can i audition it?
Ahhh..maybe thats the problem..baka hindi nagcoconvert ang HK nang signal from S-video to composite kaya walang nalabas, check the manual.. Sa NAD kasi kahit S-Video ang connection from DVD to Receiver...pwedeng composite from receiver to TV, i dont know about HK, havnt tried to do that yet, maybe later. :)courage, palit ka uli ng receiver HK na ba or additional na receiver ito.?
courage, palit ka uli ng receiver HK na ba or additional na receiver ito.?
SARS talaga
:'(thanx courage,
i can't wait that long to upgrade my receiver.
what is the equivalent model of the 5550 as to marantz?
Good day,
???Question, with my avr3550, is it best to set all my speakers to small and put all the bass or lfe to the sub. Will that give the best performance both on movies and music? Is it the best setting even watching vcds or listening to radio?
My receiver is in our living room and I'm not sure of the setting for the sub in my receiver, what db should be set on that.
My current speakers are:
m72i - front - +5db
m7c1 - center - +6db
m70 - surround - +5db
ms907 - subwoofer - ????db
hope you guys can help me out...
thanks...
Ahhh..maybe thats the problem..baka hindi nagcoconvert ang HK nang signal from S-video to composite kaya walang nalabas, check the manual.. Sa NAD kasi kahit S-Video ang connection from DVD to Receiver...pwedeng composite from receiver to TV, i dont know about HK, havnt tried to do that yet, maybe later. :)
i tried the above last night & it worked! ayos! :)
thanks for the help! :)
ehehehehehe no comment ehehehehehe ;D ;D ;D
Qman,
Sir span of 1 month lang ata yun sir hehehe joke lang sir courage ;D
3 times in a span of 3-4 months...... nag mutate ang SARS mo he he he he h ;D
1 1/2 month to be exact ehehehehehe ;D
Bottomline, I just learned in this hobby that not all that is expensive is better. and not all that is cheap is substandard. Maybe it is also a skill when people learn to see the real value of a certain quality.
Ahhh..maybe thats the problem..baka hindi nagcoconvert ang HK nang signal from S-video to composite kaya walang nalabas, check the manual.. Sa NAD kasi kahit S-Video ang connection from DVD to Receiver...pwedeng composite from receiver to TV, i dont know about HK, havnt tried to do that yet, maybe later. :)
sir, sa HK, dapat parehong naka S-Video yung galing sa DVD player at yung papuntang TV. fyi. :)tenx geko, akala ko uubra at susubukan ko sana mamaya para maayos ko ang problema ko sa prima dvd ko.
tenx geko, akala ko uubra at susubukan ko sana mamaya para maayos ko ang problema ko sa prima dvd ko.
To all hk guys
Question,
Normal ba na kapag gumamit ako ng EZ set-up ng 3550, minaximize nya yung speaker level to +10db sa lahat ng speakers ko? hinde kasi pantay ang distances ng surround speakers ko tapos may nagsabi sakin na dapat babaan ko level ng set-up ng EZ set.
my speakers are bookshelf tapos wala pa akong sub.
Also, does EZset also set-up the level of the sub? kasi kapag nabili ako ng sub, panibagong set-up uli yun.
hope that u can help me...
Finally decided on an HK3550 :D. Bought it yesterday and partnered it with Wharf 8.3s. I must say it sounded warm and sweet especially on strings and vocals. Norah Jones seems to be singing right in front of me :o...
Thank you guys for the inputs, reviews and recommendation that led me to this great decision. :)
Finally decided on an HK3550 :D. Bought it yesterday and partnered it with Wharf 8.3s. I must say it sounded warm and sweet especially on strings and vocals. Norah Jones seems to be singing right in front of me :o...
Thank you guys for the inputs, reviews and recommendation that led me to this great decision. :)
Finally decided on an HK3550 :D. Bought it yesterday and partnered it with Wharf 8.3s. I must say it sounded warm and sweet especially on strings and vocals. Norah Jones seems to be singing right in front of me :o...mabuhay ang harman kardon fanatics. galeng nyan walang pagsisisi ;D
Thank you guys for the inputs, reviews and recommendation that led me to this great decision. :)
mabuhay ang harman kardon fanatics. galeng nyan walang pagsisisi ;D
Correct ka dyan ehehehe..pare sino ka dun sa pic sa basketball eb nyo ehehehe :)
dumami na talaga ang hk fanatics dito. tatlong linggo lang akong di nakapg-login ang dami ng nadadagan sa barangay hk. hehehe namimiss ko na ang receiver ko. :(
Courage,
Pre after the quick change of cables ;D ;D grabe enjoy to the max ako.. btw last Saturday done some quick break in yun face to face and lalo lumabas yun details and bass.. :o :o
My TV has only composite video input...
i read in this thread that i will have a problem if i will use the s-video of dvd player to hk and composite of dvd player to tv...
what to solve this kind of stuff? ty
Thanks bro.
looks like im going to get hk na rin... :)
OT: which is better s-video or composite?
mali pala ako ng tanong....
what i mean is dvd component video input against s-video?
Can someone advice me if mas OK ang HK3550 sa DENON1803? Also PM me price of 3550.
Thanks a lot.
Qman,tenx greatness, pinag iisipan ko rin ang mission eh. sa budget ko kumpleto ko agad pro kung b&W naman medyo matagal made-delay ang pag kumpleto. Iniisip ko rin ang athena narining ko na iyon at oks na oks.
sir, my mission speakers are:
m72i for fronts
m7c1i for center
m70 for surrounds
no sub yet. (ipon pa)
that is connected to my hk3550 and i'm using the basic pioneer dv233 dvd player.
Can someon PM me current price of HK3550. TY
Qman,gusto ko kasi kumpleto na pag bumili dahil mahirap makiusap ke misis uli na magkaroon ng bagong budget. Kya once lang, me budget pro hinahapit ko pa na lumaki laki pa para maabot ang 5 speaker set kahit iyong sub saka na. nasabay kasi sa pagawa ng bahay. di naman ako nagmamadali kasi hinihintay ko rin matapos ang lugar ng set up kya oks lang.
If you can stretch your budget, go for B&W. What model are you eyeing?
Levi
Thanks...
Medyo mahal pala siya, Parang mas OK yata ang denon price wise and feature wise.
Pare audition the HK and the Denon side by side, then saka mo tingnan ang wallet mo. :)
Mga Pare,
denon 1803 / HK 3550
Di ba in terms of Power/6.1 and etc. Lamang ang 1803 sa 3550?
I think dapat nga ma audition both. Honestly speaking hindi ko pa nakikita and HK, as shops in shngrila don't have it.
Where ko kaya sya ma audition both?
Bigay kasi sa akin 1803 21,500
What do you think? I will match it kasi with Wharfdale 8.3/8.1/center/DQ-12 which I will pick up this week. Naba ko nga in this thread na HK suits most speakers. Ang iniisip ko lang is 3550 is 5.1 lang.
Suggestions please. Thanks
Mga Pare,
denon 1803 / HK 3550
Di ba in terms of Power/6.1 and etc. Lamang ang 1803 sa 3550?
I think dapat nga ma audition both. Honestly speaking hindi ko pa nakikita and HK, as shops in shngrila don't have it.
Where ko kaya sya ma audition both?
Bigay kasi sa akin 1803 21,500
What do you think? I will match it kasi with Wharfdale 8.3/8.1/center/DQ-12 which I will pick up this week. Naba ko nga in this thread na HK suits most speakers. Ang iniisip ko lang is 3550 is 5.1 lang.
Suggestions please. Thanks
Mga Pare,
denon 1803 / HK 3550
Di ba in terms of Power/6.1 and etc. Lamang ang 1803 sa 3550?
I think dapat nga ma audition both. Honestly speaking hindi ko pa nakikita and HK, as shops in shngrila don't have it.
Where ko kaya sya ma audition both?
Bigay kasi sa akin 1803 21,500
What do you think? I will match it kasi with Wharfdale 8.3/8.1/center/DQ-12 which I will pick up this week. Naba ko nga in this thread na HK suits most speakers. Ang iniisip ko lang is 3550 is 5.1 lang.
Suggestions please. Thanks
IMO, I will go for Harman.
for sure mga bro.. hahaha audition to death hanggang ayaw na ako makita nung mga sales people hehehe...
which ones though na harman would you recommend.. 3550 or 2550? hehehe
hinayang lang talaga ako na yung yamaha may 6.1 na discrete na hehehe... yun lang
medyo sobra stretch hahaha...
teka anong equivalent models nyan sa US?
3550 is 320 ba? and so on and so forth?
anong differences?
magkano naman yung 5500 hehehe... 30? may pre outs din ba to just in case i decide to use a separate amp?
thanks
Courage,
OKS ba yun HK 5550?
Saan mo pala nabili? Gusto ko nga ma adution yun 3550 and 5550 kasi gusto ko 6.1 pero budget won't permit.
Bahala na!!! Where can I see both at good prices
Thanks man
Sillyputty,
Do you mean na 5 channel output lang ang HK 5550? And I have to buy a seperate amp for the 6th?
Sobrang mahal pala ito, way way out of my league.
Sir, what do you suggest to pair with my wharf speakers.
Para sa akin Yamaha, Marantz, HK and NAD will sound good on wharfs speakers
Sillyputty,
Do you mean na 5 channel output lang ang HK 5550? And I have to buy a seperate amp for the 6th?
Sobrang mahal pala ito, way way out of my league.
Sir, what do you suggest to pair with my wharf speakers.
Wolf,
Try mo rin yung iba pang Recievers like Marantz Sr4300/5300, Onkyo 500*/600, Pioneer 811S, Yamaha X40 series. All of them are 6.1 (*- 5.1 only), though the Yamaha X40 series are not yet available here.
For me I'll choose Harman (even the HK 3550 w/c is 5.1), Marantz, Denon, Yamaha/Onkyo, Pioneer.... in order. Haven't heard of NAD and Rotel though.
Philander,
Why you got marantz over harman?
Qman,tenk you.
sori at ngayon lang ako nakareply, busy kasi. yung mission na front speakers ko ay mga 5 mos. old pa samantalang yung center at surround ay 2 mos. pa lang. Medyo lilmited budget ko kya pinag-iiponan ko yung sub, planning to buy a mordaunt short sub na downfiring kasi.
if u have a budget though, like what sir levi recommended, go for the b&w. mas matibay ata yun (bka mas ok yung sound sa misiion, not sure), i did not test na kasi for dat speakers with hk coz nakabili na ako ng mission bago ako nagpalit ng receiver..... pero i'm happy and contented naman eh ;D, no plan of upgrades yet.
MS - Magkano kuha mo sa 525 and san?
Sa US meron nyan, wala nyan dito...ang counterpart nyan is the AVR5550 kya lang wala pang available...siguradong double yan nang price nang 5500. Kasi yung 325 na lang if converted to peso eh mas mahal na sa 5500 lalo na ang 525.
bababa din ang presyo nyan courage or me mag po post nyan sa marketplace thread ng Pinoy dvd. unahan na latayo kung sakali ;D
Hintayin nyo na lang ibenta ni MS yung 525 nya.
Yung 325 nga, ok na yun, binenta pa niya...
Magkakasakit din ng SARS yan... hehehehehe ;D
Baka nga ibenta ko rin... If the Price is right! ;D
Dito ko sa pinas.
Paano mo nabili yung 525? paano na deliver dito?SARS na naman? ;D
Paano mo nabili yung 525? paano na deliver dito?
Binili ko lang yung AVR 525 sa friend ko. Nilagay sa Balikbayan Box.nakupo nabigyan ng ideya si courage, maga-upgrade uli yan... ;D
nakupo nabigyan ng ideya si courage, maga-upgrade uli yan... ;D
Tanong ko lang po sa mga hk people kung anong magandang mura na coax at rca na magamit from my dvd player to my hk3550 and also speaker cable connected sa mission m70 series.Try using ixos 6006 para sa front speakers mo...generic will do sa surround IMHO since effects lang naman ang lalabas dun...sa audio may napansin akong difference kung branded speaker cables ang gamit ko
salamat po.
Try using ixos 6006 para sa front speakers mo...generic will do sa surround IMHO since effects lang naman ang lalabas dun...sa audio may napansin akong difference kung branded speaker cables ang gamit ko
dexterc,
ok, salamat sa suggestion. I myt as well use it na rin sa center speaker ko. i hope na mapapansin ko din yung difference.
should i connect it using banana plug or bare wire na lang?
Upon suggestion of Archi Audio (Epoy), use a small portion of ecosse wires use them as connecting links (replace the metal one).
tenk you.
i heard the combi of b&W at HK sa archie, kya di ko maalis sa isip ko ang B&W eh talgang kursunadang kursunada ko. Kya hahapitin ko muna ang budget para umabot doon.
Julsp
Pre at the back of you speaker terminal there is a metal that link together the HF and LF.. instead of the metal link replace them with a wire (ecosse) to link them together..
To do this cut around 1 1/2 inch of wire (ecosse/Ixos/Orig 12) tapos strip both side then insert them to the HF and LF (positive) then tighten screw do the same with the negative
hi!
any 3550 owners here using 4 ohms speakers?
my friend is so worried that his 4 ohms (vintage monitor JBLs, not sure of the model) speakers might overload his 3550.
isang buwan na 'yung unit n'ya, di pa rin n'ya ma-enjoy... :(
thanks. :)
I think the 3550 can handle the JBL, high current naman ang HK eh so there will be no problem, just properly ventilate the 3550.
is there any literature that says 3550 can handle 4 ohms load? hindi pa rin masyadong kubinsido, eh...
thanks for the help. :)
is there any literature that says 3550 can handle 4 ohms load? hindi pa rin masyadong kubinsido, eh...
thanks for the help. :)
sir geco you can check AVR3550 product specification: http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product_detail&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%203550/230&language=ENGLISH (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product_detail&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%203550/230&language=ENGLISH)
yung sakin AVR2550 lang pero kayang-kaya i-drive yung 4ohms load nilalagyan ko na lang ng exhaust fan sa taas gaya nung sinabi ni sir courage... pero syempre mas ok kung 8ohms load pag nakaluwag siguro baka mag-mission din ako.... ganda talaga ng mission H/K combo... ;D
pukx 8)
Geko,
This will answer ur question, its the website of HK from the US
http://www.harmankardon.com/faq/showFaqanswer.asp?faqId=233
Grabe ang mura pala..... :o
sir JT sa US ba kayo...? :)
Singapore. Prices are in Singapore Dollars (1sgd=30pesos).
JT, I adjusted the pic size.
Just to give u an idea how much it costs here:
(http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0SADYAmgWGENF6jTVLs6Dg4nnW3DbJvqW*X5xZ7cJk6xNH8v98AKlzjP7E*7dlybwCOAJWVHMYs8eClirGUsW33zk7rnPPa73QlFUcyY2Kg49AAAAkXJdAg/jbl_promo3.jpg?dc=4675430933585267300)
if you are talking of the OSD, then the output will be in PAL format if your unit is one of those european version. the video input and output can accept both pal and ntsc though. i also have the european version of the 5500 and l just bring my smaller tv if i need to adjust something needing the osd or maybe if you can find the pal to ntsc converter which im been looking for also.
it will not convert the input to another format. so whatever format is fed in the input, it will be the same as the output.
a oki.. sorry for being confused.. which means since i set that on the dvd player that the output video would be ntsc and its connected by an optical cable to my avr. that the output of the avr would be ntsc? right? :-\ and i should have no problems when playing dvd since output of the avr is ntsc? :) only the OSD uses the default pal format?
Yup thats true, hindi maapektuhan ang signal na galing sa DVD mo, pero why connect ur DVD to the AVR. i think mas better pa rin na connected directly sa TV yung player mo kesa dadaan pa nang AVR.
SEBMAN DAMI MO ATANG PROBLEMA NGAYON A DATI PROBLEMA MO YONG HOW TO GET HK AVR PERO NGAYON SPEAKER NA HEHEHE SIMULA NA LUMALA ANG SARS MO ;D
KAYA NGA AKO BINIGAY KO KAY ESMI YONG CREDIT CARD AT ATM KO PARA MATIGIL MUNA SA SARS........HEHEHEHE ;D ;D
tama yan pre.. ako buti nasira yung credit card ko.. kungdi pinakaskas ko na agad yun para me decent front speakers na ako.. parang na-oover power yung bookshelf speakers ko.. d tuloy maganda ang tunog kahit flat lahat ng settings ko.. parang sabog yung tunog.. :-[
Yup thats true, hindi maapektuhan ang signal na galing sa DVD mo, pero why connect ur DVD to the AVR. i think mas better pa rin na connected directly sa TV yung player mo kesa dadaan pa nang AVR.
What's the current price for HK AV5500? And which shop?
34k Spec tra or Arch. Audio
HK 3550 is not upgradable to 6.1/7.1, it doesn't have pre-outs (pre-outs for the surround back).
6.1 is medium dependent, though you can matrix the 5.1 to make it 6.1/7.1.
sir alam ko.. out of stock na tong model na to on most av stores.. yung price nya na pinaka-mura is 22T.. :( encoded dapat yung dvd movie in 6 channels and you need a separate amp to make it 61 or 7.1.
meron na ba mga movies na 6.1 encoded, nakasulat ba sa specs ng dvd yun?
meron ba avr na 6.1 na?
Yes. DTS-ES and DD-EX encoded discs: http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=3;action=display;threadid=645
AVR, sobrang dami na, most of the recent/new releases.
Yamaha 630, 730 and above series, the new Yamaha X40 series.
Marantz *300 series, Harman Kardon 4550, 4500*, 5500*, 5550, 8500, etc.
Onkyo 600, 700 and the new X01 series.
Denon 1803, 2803 etc. and the new X804 series
Pioneer 811, 1011, 2011
NAD 762, 752*, 742*
* - needs separate amp for the surround back.
Just like to share na ANG GALING NG HK!! I was able to find my old Stavol AVR and hooked my hk to it.
1.) The clarity improved dramatically!!
2.) Improvement on Sound Staging was impressive!!
One happy HK owner. ;D
Whats the other model number for AVR5500? I couldnt find it the HK site.
http://www.harmankardon.com/product_support/product_finder.asp?sProduct=AVR&submit2=Find&stype=om
Here:
http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%205500/230&language=ENGLISH (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%205500/230&language=ENGLISH)
HK International site.
Whats the other model number for AVR5500? I couldnt find it the HK site.
http://www.harmankardon.com/product_support/product_finder.asp?sProduct=AVR&submit2=Find&stype=om
you find can info on AVR5500 & other models available here in the Phils in the URL below:
http://international.harmankardon.com/
hth. :)
I have already downloaded from this site and the manual says 50hz. Pinas should be 60hz, so ano yung nakalagay sa likod ng mga unit nyo?
will check later. bigyan kita ng feedback tomorrow. :)
Thanks, pre. My friend bought 2 units from the sale I posted earlier and he selling 1 unit to me for 699sgd (21k pesos).
Gusto ko lang makasiguro na gagana sa Pinas kung bibilhin ko ito.
ang mura ng kuha mo. that's a very good deal!50hz din ang nakalagay. so far, i don't have any problems with my unit. fyi, it is connected to a line conditioner then to a UPS/AVR which is connected to the mains.
enjoy your new toy, man! :)
ang mura ng kuha mo. that's a very good deal!50hz din ang nakalagay. so far, i don't have any problems with my unit. fyi, it is connected to a line conditioner then to a UPS/AVR which is connected to the mains.
enjoy your new toy, man! :)
sir geko.. pasali na din.. nakakatulong din bang magpaganda ng tunog ng HK yung line conditioner..
san makakabili non and magkano kaya sir? thanks
palagay ko... kasi, in my case, napansin ko na mas naging malinaw 'yung sound ng HK ko, eh. pero mas mahalang i-consider siguro, eh, 'yung protection that it could give your unit... :)i got my line conditioner from a fellow member for PhP 4.5K. the brand is Castle & it is made in Taiwan. hindi ko lang alam kung available 'to dito...
i saw some line conditioners in handyman & in SM Makati pero mukhang pang-PC lang 'yun mga 'yon. try mo dito sa thread na 'to at baka meron kang makita - > http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=11;action=display;threadid=1823
hth. :)
sebman gastos uli yan :D :D
Prend sebman,
I thought you already bought a Yaden Avr ang alam ko almost the same function din yan as line conditioner but i may be wrong.. uy bago naman pla dvd player nya
Sebman,
Prend OT meron yun pioneer pre DVD audio and SACD na plus other format pwede for only 14k to 15k ata pre yun next target ko...
Thanks man. So pwede diyan ang reciever/amp kahit 50hz. Yung mga 50hz microwave kasi sumasabog kapag ginamit diyan.
Both Harman and Marantz are 50hz here. This HK AVR5500 is for my friend there, I'm eyeing for Yamaha RX-V440.
pinares mo sa 2550, panalo ba?.. ;)
;)alam mo seb parang nangangati na naman CC ko e parang gusto na naman ikiskis sa Bronze center ;) ;D ;D ;D
;)alam mo seb parang nangangati na naman CC ko e parang gusto na naman ikiskis sa Bronze center ;) ;D ;D ;D
enjoy your new toy, man! :)
try archi audio
ok jackryan,
i'll let you know by then. i'm planning anyway to change my mission to monitor audio kapag nagkapera...
hirap talaga ng SARS.
would anybody know the average price of the HK 1550?
thanks!
Mga Bro,
Is AVR 5550 already available sa pinas if how much kaya ito at saan?? ;D
positive_noise. ;)
My friend had one, he got it for 18,900 K!
oppsss I thought 5550 :o :o
mukhang me balak ka prend a.. 5550 upgrade na.. :D
joke lang
presars bili na 5550 hehehehe
hey guys,
just wanna ask you guys if i got good deal with my cousin, you see hear i had an avr125 (given to me by my uncle) and after a couple of mos. i traded it with my cousin's avr3550 (1 month old)and gave him 1000 pesos for it. His reason is that the avr125 had silver buttons so that he may match daw sa toshiba dvd player nya at para sa kulay ng kwarto nya. And he won't venture in a dvd-audio type of set-up (ang babaw ba nya). at kelangan din daw nya ng cash pambili ng lotr agad so i just grab the opportunity.
Naturally, masaya ako pero di ko alam pano timplahin yung speakers ko using ezset. wala din atang function para sa sub. ihope that you can help me guys over here?
wat does the 6 ch input sa 3550 stand for/
Nag-labas na rin ang Yamaha ng high-current models, e.g. RXV-740 (90 watts yata). Ano kaya (kung mayroon) ang pagkakaiba nito sa high current ng HK. May HK rin ako (AVR 1550).
High current amplifiers generally have very large power consumption figures. Like Philander said, go figure out how an amp consuming only 360 watts of power can give out 540 watts of music output. I may be wrong, but HK and Rotel appears to be among the few high current AVRs out there in the mid-price range. Pioneer used to, but not with its recent models.
Harman Kardon really eats up a lot of electricity... pero very satisfied naman ako everytime I watch movies pre!! compare to my old amp ibang iba ito pre!
OT:My opinions on high current AVR's that are "midpriced": HK, rotel and NAD although the price of the rotel receivers here is not what I would call midpriced :)
prend hans.. tama ka dyan.. electric bill ko ngayun plus 500 agad e.. hehehe pero oks lang.. enjoy naman sa music and HT e.. ;D
Yup, that's the Rotel priced at 65T I saw at Image Harrison 2 months ago. But like you said "in perspecive" if 40T is mid priced, how then should we ckasify the flagship Onkyo rcvr I saw at Sound and Vision selling at 95T and the Sunfire Theatre Grand rcvr I saw selling at around 180T? Super High na ba? What do you think of the ff:
Low : less than 30T
Mid : 31T to 80T
High: 81T +++
Puwede magtanong???the max. power consumption of 5500 is almost 800watts. your regulator must be higher than this.
Anong voltage regulator ang puwedeng gamitin for HK5500. Kasi ang nakalagay sa specs 50Hz and 45A, parang aircon na eh. Padating na next week yung unit ko.
Sana matulungan ninyo ako. Marami pong salamat.
Guys, I'm new to this. Your help is very much appreciated. I'm using HK 2550. Do you think this will give the full potential of Wharfedale 8.3 and 8.4 floorstanders? Or should I just settle for a Missing m73i speakers? Thanks in advance. :)
Sebman,
Thanks for your quick response. :) The problem is, I'm outside Manila. Pampanga to be specific. I know only the way to SM mega mall. That's all. So my options are only those stores in mega, shang and podium. :( Unfortunately, to my knowledge, only the store in podium carries the HK receivers. So I wouldn't have the change to audition the Mission and Wharfs unless I will bring my HK receiver with me. Sebman, do you think going to mission speakers is the right path if budget permits? Thanks. :)
Inputs please mga bosing, i recently disposed of my diamonds. i curently have crystals right now, for receiver, am planning to get hk by the end of the month, yung 1803 ko kukunin na din sa akin by the end of this month. since both sound great with wharfs, 2550 and 3550, my dilemma is which one should i get? feature wise mas marami ang 3550.
another thing i am considering (upgrade path) for speakers is monitor audio (ahehehe, balak palang). ;D
pre, naka-rinig ako ng monitor hk combi, ang galing! :) bro, b1 lang yung ano pa kaya kung b2 or b4. hehehehehe
Pre,
Bangis ng B2/HK combo! ;D
I think you need to get the HK5500. Sunod sunod ang upgrade ah. Match the HK with the MA Silver so no more upgrade. It is still less expensive than slowly climbing the ladder.
i'm kinda geared towards the 2550 considering from what others are saying that mas marami lang talaga yung features ng 3550 againts 2550. am really more on proper matching than features.
nasubukan mo na crystals with hk? :D ano findings mo?
pre,
baka naman pag-dinala ko yung crystals sa inyo at maganda yung tunog maging diamond 8 yung crystals ko pag-uwi. ahehehehehe ;D ;D ;D ;D
slayer,
ang layo lang sa inyo bro, dulot-dulo and pagitan ng bahay natin. pero sige bago ako bumili sked natin sa house nyo.
hans,
yup thats one of the reasons why i'm leaning towards hk wharf combo yung denon wharf combo masyadong bright para sa akin (already heard hk wharf combo, galing kaso diamonds not crystals).
Pre,
Sabihin mo lang kelan. Kaya hindi ko tinuloy yung 1803 kasi di ko masyado nagustuhan yung output. ;D
Prend Courage,
Hehehehe ok na ok pa rin.. di lang masyado nagagamit coz of my scott amp sya ngayon favorite ko and puro stereo muna ako pre.. building your house mas ok yan pre malayo sa SARS :).. yun HK mo pre gamitin ng gamitin!!
Prend Courage,
Hehehehe ok na ok pa rin.. di lang masyado nagagamit coz of my scott amp sya ngayon favorite ko and puro stereo muna ako pre.. building your house mas ok yan pre malayo sa SARS :).. yun HK mo pre gamitin ng gamitin!!
John,
Prend wag na wag kang magdilang angel pre ::) ::) ;D just gone to Hyperaudio shop and saw my next target Dynaco ST70 :D :D kaso over na sa budget koooo..
Hk ko??? love ko pa??
tnx james16
saan ba murang HK? yung na ccanvas ko kasi 2550 nasa 19k(spectra) baka meron kayong alam na mas mura.
tnx.
Mga Bro,
Magkano ba ang HK5550 at saan magandang mag Demo! ;D
positive_noise.
few question lang po.just call architectural audio at 811-6715.
1 Saan ba may pinakamurang 3550 and saan ba pwedend pa demo.?
2. ang 3550 ba ay may osd?
3.kung ang 3550 ay 192khz/24bit dac at and dvd player ko ay 96khz/20bit, after connecting my dvd to the receiver via fiber optic or coax ang gagamitin ba nya na DAC ay yung sa receiver?
4. di ba namimili ng speakers ang 3550, mine is only a yamaha floorstanding (70w min/250w max power) 6 ohms impedance, sensitivity is 90db and frequency response is 40hz to 20khz.
Good Day to all,
few question lang po.
1 Saan ba may pinakamurang 3550 and saan ba pwedend pa demo.?
2. ang 3550 ba ay may osd?
3.kung ang 3550 ay 192khz/24bit dac at and dvd player ko ay 96khz/20bit, after connecting my dvd to the receiver via fiber optic or coax ang gagamitin ba nya na DAC ay yung sa receiver?
4. di ba namimili ng speakers ang 3550, mine is only a yamaha floorstanding (70w min/250w max power) 6 ohms impedance, sensitivity is 90db and frequency response is 40hz to 20khz.
thanks a lot,
frieden
Mga Bro,
Thanks sa info ninyo... Saan ba ang Archi Audio? baka makapasiyal ako this Saturday! And magkano ba ang HK5500 para narin sa mga ibang nating Bro na nagbabalak ng HARMAN-KARDON!
enjoy!
positive_noise. ;D
Mga Bro,
I need help on my HK5500. Puwede ko bang isasak ng direct sa AC outlet without worrying kung me effect sa power supply nya. Kasi sa manual its says 50Hz, eh di ba 60Hz dito sa atin.
I tried looking for a voltage regulator sa Ace Hardware, meron akong nakita Zebra yun brand: 1000W, 10A, 50/60Hz. Natatakot ako baka katagalan masira ang power supply dahil magka-iba ang frequency cycle tapos walang regulator.
Please give me some inputs.... Thanks!
I bought mine in Singapore through a friend. It cost less duon. It's the same model din naman.
frieden,
you are right that the 3550 is not an award winner but if you could go to home-entertainment review, look it up. It has perform better than other receivers in terms of sound in audio and ht. the reason being why it does not have any awards is because it is not 6.1. All the receivers in its price range are 6.1 already. But HK believes that a better sounding 5.1 is ok compared to not so good sounding 6.1 rcvrs.
regarding 2550, nde ka dyan mabibitin sa power. dnt underestimate hk rcvrs. the reason i chose 3550 over my 125 (2550) is because you it is dvd-audio ready but still 5.1 (also i got a good deal to trade it with my cousin). ;D
i didn't mind choosing this to other rcvrs that have 6.1 because at our sala, it is quite impossible to connect a surround back speaker and plus in terms of sound preference i really like it.
IMHO you can't go wrong with a hk receiver.
Bhot,
i think it doesn't matter kung 50hz yan pagdating sa receiver, be concern kung dvd player yan kasi dun my moving parts dun. i hope other peolple could further explain it better.
frienden,
you may check it out at ecoustics, look for surround receiver reviews. I think the US counterpart for that odel is the AVR225 since my 125 is 2550.
Uy mukang ang dami na nating naka HK ah
frieden,
kung ang habol mo lang ay award winner, mahihirapan kang mag decide dahil ilang magazine at webzine ang may award winners. sa isa, harman, sa kabila denon, sa isa onkyo, sa iba naman yamaha? paano na?
besides, karamihan sa mga magazines na ito ay advertisement driven. meaning, kumikita sila through advertisements. paano mo sasabihing pangit ang producto ng mga nag a-advertise kung sa kanila kumukuha ng income ang mga magazines na ito? syempre, pwede rin nilang gawing award winner ang malakas mag advertise sa kanila, hindi ba?
isa pa, maaaring hindi pareho ang preferences nyo ng reviewers. kung gusto nya medyo matining ang tunog at ikaw gusto mo warm at medyo malambing? paano na?
bottom line: pakinggan mo ang gusto mong bilhin. pakinggan mo rin ang mga competition and compare. choose the one that you like. ikaw ang gagamit at makikinig ng system mo at hindi ang mga reviewers.
ito po lang ay ang aking dalwang sentimo.
good luck.
thanks you guys, acctually 80% decided na ako sa harman evrything that i inquire is for my own research and investigation, alam nyo na I want to convince my self 100% (sabi nga nila pinakamahirap kalaban ang sarili)
Maraming salamat ulit mga brother,
frieden
dolby,james16,
yung 1550 ay wala pang logic7 and vmax na dsp.
dolby,
Logic7 and Vmax are exclusive DSP of Harman...Logic7 will make your 2 channel (anolog)source to 5.1 phantom same as dolby prologic I/II, 5 speakers gagana... while Vmax you only have 2 speakers tapos will sound wide parang may surround ka rin.. like virtual surround hehehe hope di magulo pre. ;D ;D
Amen! :Dbossing saw ure ads sa buy n sell a... monitor audio na ba yan? ;D
heheheh,
hopefully monitor na nga.
sebman,
idol ko set-up mo. pareho kayo ni harmonkardonera. ;D
Ive used Yamaha, Denon, NAD and HK..and for me the best ang HK sa lahat....but maybe we have different ears so go audition and hear for ur self
Malamang nga, Monitor nayan! Pero naguguluhan pa si James16 kung HK-DVD25 or B2?
Ano James16?
J_albert,
Ganda DVD25 pre... WOWOWOWOW!! :o
j_albert22,
Ganda yan dre kung pure HK yan! ;D
sebman,
lapit na pareho maging set-up natin! ;D
yan next target ko para pure Harman hehehehe ;D ;D
sebman,
lapit na pareho maging set-up natin! ;D
meron ba sa inyong naka HK 2550 at A audio speakers? what volume do you use for this receiver pag nakikinig kayo (either theater or music) ? parang medyo mahina kasi ang output from my dad's system. pag nanood minsan umaabot sa -10 ang volume or something. basta madalas at least between -10 and -20. ok lang ba yon? salamat mga pre.
j_albert22,
Ganda yan dre kung pure HK yan! ;D
sebman,
lapit na pareho maging set-up natin! ;D
pa-audition pag nandyan na ha ;D
meron ba sa inyong naka HK 2550 at A audio speakers? what volume do you use for this receiver pag nakikinig kayo (either theater or music) ? parang medyo mahina kasi ang output from my dad's system. pag nanood minsan umaabot sa -10 ang volume or something. basta madalas at least between -10 and -20. ok lang ba yon? salamat mga pre.
yan next target ko para pure Harman hehehehe ;D ;D
pre... DVD21 almost same specs of DVD25.. the latter being progressive scan capable.. mas cheaper yung DVD21.. pero kung bibili ka ;Dnung progscan capable na tv.. go with the DVD25.. award winner pa.. ;D
pareng sebman, di ko lam kung di lang ako nagbabasa ng mga recent post pero kumpleto na ba set-up mo? musta na B2 mo? malamang super broken in na yan!!! ganda di ba?
mukhang marami ka nang audio cds hah...pa-burn....hehehehe
burn din yun sa cdr.. courtesy of prend Hans nga.. hehehe iisang audio cd lang yun.. compilation lang sya.. punta ka ke sir hyperaudio.. magsasawa ka sa audiophile cd's.. ;)
PWEDE PASAMA D KO KC ALM YON E ;D
oks lang pre.. cge cgurin natin si sir hyperaudio.. schedule natin.. ;)
James,
Whats your current setup??
yun kay Sebman ganda pre!!
congrats to nasa and welcome bilang isa sa owners ng HK!
sensya kung medyo OT
finally, i got my B2 at home tonight. still breaking in at mukhang mapupuyat ako. Nag-leave nga ako kanina dahil di ako mapakali at binili ko sya kanina sa archi audio. Thanks guys.
Matagal na break-in ito (100 hrs). cgurado maiinip ako pero ok lang.
my current set-up as of tonight:
Rcvr: HK AVR3550
Sub: MS308
Fronts: MA B2
thanks to j_albert22 at sebman.
like what the logo says : As close as it gets
;D
Pre,
Sama ako diyan!!
congrats to nasa and welcome bilang isa sa owners ng HK!
sensya kung medyo OT
finally, i got my B2 at home tonight. still breaking in at mukhang mapupuyat ako. Nag-leave nga ako kanina dahil di ako mapakali at binili ko sya kanina sa archi audio. Thanks guys.
Matagal na break-in ito (100 hrs). cgurado maiinip ako pero ok lang.
my current set-up as of tonight:
Rcvr: HK AVR3550
Sub: MS308
Fronts: MA B2
thanks to j_albert22 at sebman.
like what the logo says : As close as it gets
;D
slayer,
thanks ;D
sebman,
next target ko nga yung B center, sana by the end of the year makumpleto ko. Medyo OT pero ano gamit mong surround speakers pati player mo?
Plano ko ksi na wag nang MA, medyo mahal eh for surrounds at kapag may extra pa, bili ako ng HK dvd player. ::)
slayer,
thanks ;D
sebman,
next target ko nga yung B center, sana by the end of the year makumpleto ko. Medyo OT pero ano gamit mong surround speakers pati player mo?
Plano ko ksi na wag nang MA, medyo mahal eh for surrounds at kapag may extra pa, bili ako ng HK dvd player. ::)
j_albert22,
salamat ah. tanong ko din po kung dapat din ba baliktad ang connection ko sa speaker side without changing connection from the receiver? ???
thanks in advance....
balak ko din ata ibenta 3550 ko eh..... SARS!!!
j_albert22,
salamat ah. tanong ko din po kung dapat din ba baliktad ang connection ko sa speaker side without changing connection from the receiver? ???
thanks in advance....
balak ko din ata ibenta 3550 ko eh..... SARS!!!
oo naman pre.. cge schedule natin this saturday.. taas paa ang pede.. sugod mga kapatid sa HK.. ;D
peeps,
question po. what advantages does the 3550 over the 2550 aside from the higher power output? wana justify the 3K price difference eh.
peeps,
question po. what advantages does the 3550 over the 2550 aside from the higher power output? wana justify the 3K price difference eh.
james16!!! pre dont sell the 3550 without informing me also. definitely am very interested. hehehe ;D ;D
OT sebman baka pwede linggo tapos two bottle sa baywatch ;D ;D
Analog 5.1 inputphilander,
Speaker Level meter (for EZSET)
Higher current than 2550
More power.
ot din...subukan natin pre.. kaso family day kasi ang sunday e.. baka tayo lang dalawa magkita.. hehehe ;)
james16.. 5500 ba yan or 8500 na.. wows ganda na ng setup mo nyan.. :)
philander,
doesnt the 2550 have 5.1 also? checked the HK125 (2550) back picture from the HK website, and it shows a 6 channel input also.
hans adriane and sebman,
i'm planning to purchase AVR5500. atsaka kulang sa budget kaya ibenta ko muna 3550 ko bago bili. :)
ayos nga yung b2, sana ma-breakin na.....
j_albert22,
salamat sa tip ng break-in.
Guys..What are your setting for HT?? please post your setting magaya ko nga ;D ;D
Ako ito:
Front - Large - level +2
center - small - level +5
surround - small - level +1
Sub - L + R + LFE - cut off 40hz - level 0
Delay - center 2 and surround 12
James,
EZset levels ko iba due to un-even ang room ko.. wla kasi ako dedicated AV room..
Front large - ( L +2 ) - ( R +3 )
Center small - ( +2 )
surround small ( L +6 ) - ( R+2 )
Sub L+R+LFE ( 40hz cut off ) level 0
kailangan ba talaga sa setting nang sub ay L+R & LFE? y?
Question mga brods, This is how I understand it:
Small settings are for Bookshelves & Large for Floor standers, correct me if im wrong?
Thanks Philander for the info but how would you know if the bookshelves are true full range?
Sorry ha, im just starting to learn this passion...
Philander,
Thanks for the info, i'll check my speakers Hz & Khz.
By the way I just upgraded my DQ12 to VLF1012, i'll set it up this weekend, mag experiment ako what will suite my ears.
Cheers!
congrats to nasa and welcome bilang isa sa owners ng HK!
;D
Thanks James ako din planning to upgrade my sub to change from MS907W to MA FB210 coz i want to blow my ears deep. ganda nyang B2 mo parang b2 bomber yan pre kung humataw.
James,
just tried it last night with EZset
Front - L/R 0
Center - +2
surround - ( L-+2) ( R+-1)
cutoff - 40hz..
more balance now compare to my initial setting... as for the bass need to experiment kung 40 or 60 hehehe late na kasi kaya di ko na ma-increase volume hehehehehe
james16,
Thanks bro, congrats din w/ your new B2 & sana ma upgrade mo narin yan 3550 mo to 5500 like mine, dka mag sisisi.
Regarding Frequency responce of my M&K S85:
85Hz - 20Khz 2db What do you think guys should I use SMALL or LARGE setting?
Anyway last night I was able to hook up my new VLF1012 although I cant raise the vol but I can feel it, specially when I use U-571 dts. Grabe milya milya un DQ12 ko! This weekend malalaman natin galing nitong VLF.
Well, just me...
Wala bang 5550 sa pinas?
MA FB210? napa-lingon ako dito ah... available na ba yan? makkanu?
Men balitaan ko kayo kasi id already contacted my buddy in bangkok. kasi on nov. 15 exit na sya kung wala dito or lesser yung price doon isasabay ko yung sub sa sparco nya check ko pa kung magkano yung MA sub and sea freight.
I'm new here and I would like suggestions on my set-up. I just bought an HK 5500 and a PA 2000, I have a Diamond 8.3 for front, a Diamond center, Diamond DFS for rear and DQ 12 for sub. I'm planning on getting an 8.1 to complete my speakers. Any suggestions on how I would hook up my PA 2000? Should I use it to drive my 8.3? :)
I'm new here and I would like suggestions on my set-up. I just bought an HK 5500 and a PA 2000, I have a Diamond 8.3 for front, a Diamond center, Diamond DFS for rear and DQ 12 for sub. I'm planning on getting an 8.1 to complete my speakers. Any suggestions on how I would hook up my PA 2000? Should I use it to drive my 8.3? :)
mga HK anong maganda gamitin when you listening music V-Max, Logic7, Surround off, 3 channel stereo, 5 channel stereo or the 3 DSP(HALL,etc....)?
need your comment laang :D ;D
dc1,
congrats dc1 on your new set-up. another hk member!
Ayos!!! ;D
i use Surround off while listening to music tapos tone out. flat lagi ang settings ko para pure music (analog cable playing cds). i like that better.
kung gusto ko ng multi channel, cguro logic 7 music will do.
Even you play rock musics?
yup, for me! ;D
but you might have a different preference.
J_albert,
For audio... Surround off, tone out, analog connection, w/o sub... for rock and disco I just turn on the sub. ;D ;D
dc1,
Ganda nyan!!! pre as for your separate power amp just connect it at the back so yun volume control mo sa 5500 parin...
Courage,
Malupet yan pag 7.1 ka na pre!! :o :o
I'm currently using a Denon AVR but reading all your posted messages, I think I'll be shifting to HK soon. Magkano na ba ang 3550, 4500, 5500 and which store offers the lowest price? Mga bro, kahit pre-owned o kung sino man gustong mag-upgrade sa inyo and you want to part ways with your HK AVRs make me an offer baka kagat na rin ako....try mo sa Architectural audio or Spectra in makati ;)
I'm currently using a Denon AVR but reading all your posted messages, I think I'll be shifting to HK soon. Magkano na ba ang 3550, 4500, 5500 and which store offers the lowest price? Mga bro, kahit pre-owned o kung sino man gustong mag-upgrade sa inyo and you want to part ways with your HK AVRs make me an offer baka kagat na rin ako....
sent you pm ;D
I'm new here and I would like suggestions on my set-up. I just bought an HK 5500 and a PA 2000, I have a Diamond 8.3 for front, a Diamond center, Diamond DFS for rear and DQ 12 for sub. I'm planning on getting an 8.1 to complete my speakers. Any suggestions on how I would hook up my PA 2000? Should I use it to drive my 8.3? :)
mga bro. confirmation lang. unlike 2500, the 2550 and 3550 doesn't have mp3 decoding, am I right?
James
Deadma ba??? ;D
HK AVR ko pero di B2 speaker ko pero kung akin yan I set it LARGE para engaging yun sound (with body) hehehe and I wont worry on the LFE since may LFE crossover cutoff AVR safe.. kaya no problemo.. except if you overdrive lets say +18 hehehe..
Bro, by using your avr you are in effect warming it up. Unless I got confused with your question. I think latest here is 5500.
mayroon pang higher model d2 i saw in spectra makati HK8550 or HK8500 ata yon
8500 din yun pre.. wala pa nga dito nung 4550 n 5550 e.. saka wala sa website yung 8550.. baka plano pa lang gawin.. ;D hehehe
ayon sa isang reliable source, magkakaron na raw ng 5550 dto. ;D
ayon sa isang reliable source, magkakaron na raw ng 5550 dto. ;D
Sebman,
Panis yan kay James... isang bunot lang sa bulsa.. di ba sir James.. :D
Sebman,
Panis yan kay James... isang bunot lang sa bulsa.. di ba sir James.. :D
hans adriene and sebman,
sana magdilang anghel kayo at magkatotoo yan..... ;D
medyo mabigat na sa bulsa yan eh ::)
Just a question po, am considering using the HK may I ask how is the service for any possibly repairs or servicing needed. Meron ba silang service sa Pinas? Or any affiliated service center capable? Salamat in advance.
kaw pa yakang yaka mo yan hehhehhe
;D sana tumama ko sa lotto hehehehh ;D
balato ha
question also on the HK2550 - can it drive Dynaudio Audience 52 spkrs?
thanks
Rivalz,,
Beyond innovation ang authorized importer and distributor of HK dito sa Pinas pati servicing sila bahala..
James,
Kung jackpot ka pre don't forget me... :D :D
bro jt,
hello pre! still alive? hehehe. been reading the old HK posts and you mentioned that HK is very cheap in singapore. from the prices you posted, the price of a 3550 here in pinas will be able to get me a 5500 there already. i know someone in singapore and he sends packages often to pinas so i might be able to get him to buy for me and ship it here.
anyway, just wana know the current prices of HK receivers there now and the mall/store that sells them. any upcoming sales like the one you posted with the pic last july? thanks in advance bro!!
sana satin din mag sale ang HK ng ganyan kababang prices.
OT: nga pala JT, i haven't thanked you yet for the great deal i got for your power amp... maraming salamat sir!
bossing james16.. ako kahit B4 na lang balato mo sa akin.. or yung 5500 na lang kung medyo galante ka.. hehehehe
Ako din laking pasalamat ko din kay Pareng JT, nabiyayaan ako ng sale last July ng HK5500.
Pre, busy ka ba? Hindi mo sinasagot ang email ko.
has anyone compared the hk3550 and the marantz6300? theyre almost in the same price range (marantz6300 = 22.5T, hk3550 22k). would you still consider the hk more musical? the 6300 kasi has a lot of features na eh, being 6.1 already.
thanks bros. yah, medyo mahirap nga ang tossup between features and sound, tsk tsk tsk.
dami ngang features di naman maganda sound di don na ko sa subok at madami nang nagsasabi "OKEY ITO" ;D ;D
question also on the HK2550 - can it drive Dynaudio Audience 52 spkrs?
thanks
chalk up another HK user :) pinagtyagaan kong buhatin yung speakers ko sa spectra para matest yung 2550...
nice ;D
mas ok sana yung 5550 - pero masyado na mahal, dami pa ako pinaglalaanan ng budget ;)
chalk up another HK user :) pinagtyagaan kong buhatin yung speakers ko sa spectra para matest yung 2550...
nice ;D
mas ok sana yung 5550 - pero masyado na mahal, dami pa ako pinaglalaanan ng budget ;)
congrats pare, welcome to the club! ;D
James,
As long as the top is not block or have enough ventilation no problem yan pre.. before I used a blower pero di ko na ginagamit ngayon. may nagsabi sa akin before cant remember that is just OK yun heat basta daw di block tsaka the kung makakasira yun sobra heat the designer should have install a fan to displace the heat 8)
Iceman,
Congrats on your HK!! mas gaganda yan sir after break in.. 8) 8) HK and MA combo???? ibang iba sir.. :o :o :o
Iceman,
Sir regards to Hk5550 di pa ako nakakita hehehe but have the Hk 5500 compare to his little brother I think very minimal lang difference sa sound if lets say moderater volume sir..
Bhot,
How much mo na score yun Hk5500 mo?? cheaper ba talaga sir compare dito sa pinas??
I got it for 699sgd during the HK/JBL sale here in Singapore.at me libre pang siomai :)
hey guys, i saw the new 5550 model at spectra today.
s2kov,
Hk5500 and B4 yan ang target setup ko ngayon sir!!
I am an H/K addict too. Mamadali ako umuwi palagi. I own a H/K2550. It is my one purchase na tuwang-tuwa si misis. I took the risk and it paid off. Now, I look for only DTS DVDs. Grabe, I need a psychiatrist.
Wondering, if you folks shut-off your units through the power button? O, iniiwan ninyo in stand-by?
Based sa specs, a 2550 consumes 68W on idle. A yamaha rxv540 consumes <1W on idle. Parang masama mag-iwan ng standby, baka magkasunog!
By the way, try using Logic7 Cinema on VCDs. I tried my old TopGun disks. Sh_t parang DTS din!
hello guys,
paki pm naman sakin prize ng 5550? and pls correct me on this, madali ba uminit ang H/K compare to other brands? sabi kasi ng ibang owner ng H/K madali daw uminit, napansin ko puno ng vent hole ang top ng receiver unlike other brands na maliliit lang ang ventings nya on top. is this true? toroidal ba transformer ng H/K even their lower models? thanks for any comments.. :)
j_albert,
thank you sir for the comment, di ko lang makita kasi specs ng 5500 sa site ng H/K, maybe this is an asian version kaya wala sa listings ng H/K site. minimum ba 8 ohms na pwede sa H/K? others kasi is 6 and 8 ohms pwede, fix ba sa 8 ohms ang H/K?
j_albert,
thank you sir for the comment, di ko lang makita kasi specs ng 5500 sa site ng H/K, maybe this is an asian version kaya wala sa listings ng H/K site. minimum ba 8 ohms na pwede sa H/K? others kasi is 6 and 8 ohms pwede, fix ba sa 8 ohms ang H/K?
Actually my S85 M&K is 4ohms, not a problem naman w/ my HK5500. Para ngang walang ka effort effort but I notice talaga na mainit ang HK AVR's but I know its normal, maybe bec HK's are high current AVR's.
OT: James, inip nako mag Nov, para ma audition ko na un M&K ko w/ B2 or B4. Sana mag match!?!
MK,
Mas panalo nga kung isang puntahan na lang.. mahirap ang SARS attack..
James,
Nag-confirm na si Sir akyat.. tuloy na tuloy na sir!! 8)
HK boys and girls,
Have you guys tried to set all your speakers to LARGE?? done it yesterday and got very good result.. will it damage my AVR??
HK boys and girls,
Have you guys tried to set all your speakers to LARGE?? done it yesterday and got very good result.. will it damage my AVR??
James and slayer,
I think kaya ng HK but will the center and rear speakers can handle it?? ??? ???
pero try nyo pre MALUPET!! Feel more of the action!! :o
i have not tried it yet. i don't think madadamage yung hk natin.... i think they were designed to handle that provided the other ht equipment attached are within specs...
i tried na and now this is my present setting wala pa naman nayayari sa AVR ko ;D ;Dlast tym when i set my volume to -10 automatic nag shut off yung unit and i know may overload protect pala HK...and one thing di naman nila ilalagay yon kung di kaya nang AVR IMHO ko lang
James,
-15 max na yun for me pre..
James,
-15 max na yun for me pre..
James,
I'll try pre so that wala tayong problema pero yun first email ko wla pa response..
Si cousin skeeter pre already got his HK.. text me last night galing daw tried it with his friends setup.. :D
thanks guys. la ata 4500 sa pinas. kakabili ko lang rin 2550 kaya lang type ko yung may zone 2. would you know if kelangan pa separate amp for the 2nd zone?
congrats at welcome sa hk club, anyway si hans adriene cguro makaksagot dyan tungkol sa zone 2.... wala akong alam dyan eh.... ;D
i think di magkakaron dto ng 4500...
thanks guys. la ata 4500 sa pinas. kakabili ko lang rin 2550 kaya lang type ko yung may zone 2. would you know if kelangan pa separate amp for the 2nd zone?
hi james...sent a PM for you and nels...thanks! 8)
peeps,
got my hk2550 as hans said. used it with my friends missions and its great! hanep!! what i really noticed is that it can deliver even for those really deep, hard, bass sounds. you can feel the punch, siguro due to its high current capacity. yung iba, parang bitin sa akin eh. but why wonder, its a harman, hehehe. and to think 55 wats per channel lang siya. hindi pa dumating ang b2 ko but will check with my dealer here later this afternoon baka nandun na. cant wait!!!!
bro indridcold,
yamaha -> hk convert ka na rin pala? hehehe
how much na ba b2 bro? parang gsto ko nang sumali sa combo na yan e. kaya lang if i get the b2 kelangan MA din center.
how much na ba b2 bro? parang gsto ko nang sumali sa combo na yan e. kaya lang if i get the b2 kelangan MA din center.
question lang guys, I'm currently using mission speakers meron bang difference sa sound if I'll use ma speakers for movies
still using the diamonds cousin skeeter. :) la naman ako reklamo. kaya lang alam mo na pag dumating yung itch to upgrade or bumili ng bago. hay buhay. :(
question lang guys, I'm currently using mission speakers meron bang difference sa sound if I'll use ma speakers for movies
i agree with idol sebman that you need to audition it... also, ma works well with hk...
ot.. pre wala nang idol.. kaw idol namin e.. you introduce us to MA speakers.. ;D ;D malapit na yung listening session natin.. ;)
hi everybody,
may i ask if the H/K receiver can defeat its tone control(bass/treble)? so that direct signal or flat response is being fed to the two front speaker, is this possible to H/K avr? is there any adjustment on the crossover for the sub? i.e. 120hz to 80hz or lower? and by the way, where is it made, malaysia or china? model 5500 and below? i just want to upgrade my avr to H/K. any comment would surely appreciate. :)
mga bros,
clarification lang. will the source dvd player be a factor in the quality of the sound produced if one is using a digital connection (optical cable/coax) to connect dvd player and receiver? am just wondering coz if the dvd player is just sending 0's and 1's to the receiver and the receiver does the digital to analog conversion then the sound quality will totally depend upon the receiver, like in the case of hk being 192/24 DAC, no matter what dvd player one is using. am asking this coz im planning to use my dvd player for both music and movies.
Pinsan skeeter,
Lets say DVD to AVR
If Digital like Optical/ Coax your using the converter of the AVR..
If Analog like RCA left/right your using the Cd players converter naman.
IMHO.. but i maybe wrong ;D ;D
thanks! by the way, went to the US harman kardon site and they're releasing new models already (avr 130, 230, etc).diba the 225 was the equal of the 3550? well the new version, avr230 is already 7.1, has component video switching and has 7.1 direct in and 7.1 preouts. dang! theyve put in all the features i was looking for. tsk tsk tsk. delikado tayo sa SARS pag mag release na sila ng international version. kakabili ko pa lang ng 2550 ko. haayyyyy, HT buhay!
j_albert22 n hans adriane,
thank you sir your the info about the H/K avr, by the way, how much is HK5500? torroidal na ba ang transformer nito? where can i find an authorized store of HK in manila? na aatrack ako sa HK performance kaya interesado akong mag change ng receiver but im more on music, 30% in movies ok lang ba? thanks again... :)
raycor,
bro, dropped by the hk dealer at sm city cyberzone the other day and saw the HK 5500 on sale at 29K :o
j_albert22 n hans adriane,
thank you sir your the info about the H/K avr, by the way, how much is HK5500? torroidal na ba ang transformer nito? where can i find an authorized store of HK in manila? na aatrack ako sa HK performance kaya interesado akong mag change ng receiver but im more on music, 30% in movies ok lang ba? thanks again... :)
james16,
am contented na rin with the 2550 now.actually ive friends who listened to my harman paired with missions and sabi nila theyll be waiting na lang for "fs:owner is leaving" or "fs:owner is upgrading" para maka hk din sila coz bilib din sila sa hk. so in case magka sars ako someday, ive potential buyers na, hehehe.
Questions to 5500 users,
Did your MP3 indicator lit when playing MP3? What setting do you have on both AVR and player?
I'm using HK5500 and DV555 Pioneer DVD player.
James16,
Thanks anyway... 8)
Courage,
What setting did you used on DV355? :D :D :D
Ganto po yun.
Yung dvd player natin na may mp3 capability, kinokonvert nya yung MP3 bitstream sa LPCM, kaya ang marerecognize ng AV receiver is LPCM not MP3.
If you want na ang magdedecode ng MP3 is yung receiver (like for example with HK 5500), souce should not convert the MP3 bitstream to LPCM. Direct example is SPDIF (or Coax) digital out capable soundcard from PC.
Correct me if I'm wrong. Thank you.
To be able for me to take advantage to AVR's MP3 capability, aside from PC, what player do i need to use so that the receiver will do the MP3 decoding?
I have the pro-logic receiver (htib) which has the optical out. Is it possible that i can use this as the source when i play the mp3 disc. FYI this is only capable of playing Audio CD & VCD. 8) 8) 8)
I have the pro-logic receiver (htib) which has the optical out. Is it possible that i can use this as the source when i play the mp3 disc. FYI this is only capable of playing Audio CD & VCD. 8) 8) 8)
same results.. remember you would still use your dvd player that is capable of reading mp3 formats and it converts mp3-pcm formats just as philander says.. what you need is a player that is capable of reading mp3 formats but would do no mp3-pcm convertion and would only pass a raw mp3 format to your avr.. i previously own a kebao 3089 dvd player which you can choose a digital out format.. the choices are.. spdif-raw/pcm/ and i forgot the last choice.. maybe this player is what philander is talking about then your hk 5500 would do the mp3 decoding.. but it is not confirmed.. i maybe wrong.. violent reactions are welcome.. ;D ;D
So far (correct me if I'me wrong), wala pang source media na 24bit/192Khz resolution (or dvd player itself) na ma-ooutput from digital out of the player to Digital in of the receiver, 24/96Khz pa lang. Yung 24/192 is automatically decoded by capable player to analog out.
My Marantz 4300 is capable of 96khz/24-bit resolution. I tried it yesterday using DVD-Audio with Pioneer 667A. And the 96khz indicator lit in the receiver's display panel.
Note: DVD players have different digital out characteristics. There are some limitations, restrictions and inhibitions.
Correct me if I'me wrong... rsty, please help.
Bhot,
Thanks, i'll just wait for the result.... :D
Hhmmm....... ::) ::) ::)Thanks for your help!!! 8) 8) 8)
james16,
How much is the 4550?
Guys,
available na sa Architectural Audio yung HK 4550!
7.1 na sya!!! ;D
james,
wehehehe. am just curious ;D ;D
upgrade.... ::)
38.8K daw sa archi. tsk tsk tsk, way out of my league.
James,
Upgrade??? sino ikaw sir???
guys, i own already the MA B4 speakers connected to denon 1803, is it worth to upgrade and change my 1803 to H/K 5500? since most of the guys here claimed MA and H/K are best combo? what do you think guys?
James,
Thanks sir hope you like the sound of B4 and nice meeting you pre.. ganda ng CD mo ah pakopya :D :D sayang lang and nobody bought along there HK at sana eh ma-witness nila ang ganda ng combo natin hehehehe
curious lang po...
why is it that the receivers in hk's us website looks different from the ones in hk's euro website. are the us models newer? they look really cool. plus they have some interesting features like quadruple crossovers, et al
yung sa euro website naman yung traditional looks ng hk
congrats.... sayang sana nakasama ka kahpon kina akyat...
well, yung 1803 ay 6.1 na unlike yung 5500 7.1 ready lang sya, you have to connect another amp para maging 7.1...
may i suggest you take into consideration the 4550 dahil 71. na sya.... but still audition para marining mo kung dapat ka pa mag-upgrade or not... enjoy...
ayos na ayos yang B4 mo... nakakapag-isip tuloy ah... ::)
cge, walang problema sa pagkopya ng cd... ganda din sir yung mga cds mo...
sayang nga at walang nakapagdala ng hk, maybe next time sir...
marinig nila ang HK/MA combo...
sayang nga sir sana one day maka join naman ako sa inyo mga guys hirap kasi di ako nagtatagal dyan sa manila, la union po ako sir. btw, ok lang sir mas prefer ko nga ang 5.1 kasi di pwede sa place ko ang 7.1 saka im wondering lang na baka mas malakas ang 5500 kaysa sa 1803 ko para lumabas ang ganda ng tunog ng B4. sabi kasi sa store na power hungry daw ito mas lalabas ang tunog pag high current amp, what do you think sir? matigas kasi bass nya sa 1803 ko, ko baka break in lang problema?
Raycor,
Have B4 also sir and i share your sentiments but after break in yan ibang iba na sound sir... you can ask the guys who were there last Saturday at Sir Akyats place... sila ang witness ko dun hehehehe
sayang nga sir sana one day maka join naman ako sa inyo mga guys hirap kasi di ako nagtatagal dyan sa manila, la union po ako sir. btw, ok lang sir mas prefer ko nga ang 5.1 kasi di pwede sa place ko ang 7.1 saka im wondering lang na baka mas malakas ang 5500 kaysa sa 1803 ko para lumabas ang ganda ng tunog ng B4. sabi kasi sa store na power hungry daw ito mas lalabas ang tunog pag high current amp, what do you think sir? matigas kasi bass nya sa 1803 ko, ko baka break in lang problema?
Raycor,
Just do J_albert's advice on break in and mas mabilis result talaga pre.. FAce to face!!
ang layo mo pala pero sana next time makasama ka....
regarding 5500 at B4 ayos na ayos yan.... HK/MA ganda combo yan... proven na... ask sir hans adrienne...
and like everyone said, Patience lang... ang alam ko break-in period ng MA speakers is about 100 hrs pa... pero your wait and sacrifices will be worthwhile... believe me... matagal pa bago ka tamaan ng SARS sa speakers mo...
sir Raycor most of Hk are high current amp and continous power not like yong iba kaya cguro kahit anong speaker ang combo kaya nya.......regarding sa breakin try mo pagtapatin then reverse one polarity of the speaker terminal kumbaga one ++ and - - and the other + - ...para lalabas push pull ...regarding what music mas maganda yong medyo mabass para lumambot agad yong rubber nang speaker minimum hour nang breakin cguro 60hr.....congrat pala PATIENCE lang ganyan din naexperience ko with my B2
sir, sensya na just wana clear lang the reverse polarity that you said, pano po ba? yung usual na connection ko e rereverse ko lang ba? will i remove the two jumpers in the +- HF/LF? pwede po ba yun lang LF ang e break in ko kasi yun ang stiff ang bass nya?
anyone here using a hk dvd21 or dvd25? ok ba for music? how much?
pre hans,
nah. just checked out prices for the hk dvd21. its around $299 (P16,000). too expensive na for a dvd player. just want to improve my audio listening experience sana. medyo bitin ksi ako playing cds out of my xenon dvd player. any suggestions?
i suggest wag mo nang tagalin yung jumper coz even HF need to breakin and the connection, you can reverse the polarity of one channel example connect the positive terminal from the reciever to the negative of of the speaker terminal ...... then gradually increase the vuolume from time to time ........... that all sana ma get mo :D :D :D
i got this from the MA website, hope this helps...
What is the best way to run in speakers?
If you are very anxious to hear your MA speakers at their best, then I would suggest running them face to face so they are more or less touching and wiring one of them out of phase. (Connect the negative to positive and positive to negative. Do this on one speaker only.) You can then run them at an average listening level and you will hardly be able to hear anything. They can then be run constantly for four or five days
(yung sa speaker side lang ang out of phase, wag mo baguhin yung connection mo sa receiver ok)
(pagdikitin mo sila na magkatapat tapos do it at moderate to high volume)
(gawin mo yun sa stasyon na walang clear signal, pink noise, para mas madali)
sir, question po ulit, do i need to remove the two grills of the speakers? after five days, will i reverse the other channel? thanks again for helping.. ;D
wows velodyne+HK5500+B4.. dream setup ko na to.. dagdagan pa natin ng DVD25 para talagang malupit na.. ;D ;D congrats on your setup mk.. ;)
e di mag upgrade na hehehe mayaman ka naman e . ;D ;D ;D sama ka ba kina superman?
James,
Si MK na idol natin hehehehe HK5500+B4 + velo sub + dvd 25 este yun latest pla.. hehehehe 8)
dapat pre handle nya Ma-Idol-HK.. ;D ;D
sori, at ngayon ko lang nasagot ito... mas-ok sana kung tanggalin yung grilles, kung matotolerate mo yung sound... dun sa isang question mo, nde na kelangan ireverse... but i advised na imbes na 5 days, make it 7 days... unang mabebreak-in kasi dayn yung woofer bago yung tweeter..
Raycor,
Pre mas ok kung 7 days straight hehehe siguro yan.. ibang iba ang B4 mo after the 7 days hehehe parang commercial ng shampoo..
i just realized may downside din pala having the hk/ma combo . . .
. . . palagi ako late sa ofis ngayon ;D :( ;D
Cousin skeeter,
Pre dare.. walang gagamit ng HK/MA sa bahay 1 week hehehehe..
Cousin skeeter,
Pre dare.. walang gagamit ng HK/MA sa bahay 1 week hehehehe..
nooooooooooo!! enjoy na ako ngayon since theyre sounding great na. am not sure if theyre fully broken in yet though. i was playing yanni before i left the house and i kept saying myself "last track na then alis na ako". i ended up finishing the whole cd and arrived late again. you know what, come to think of it, ive not watched a movie since i got em b2s. music lang lahat ;D ;D ;D
Cousin skeeter,
Pre dare.. walang gagamit ng HK/MA sa bahay 1 week hehehehe..
James,
Si MK na idol natin hehehehe HK5500+B4 + velo sub + dvd 25 este yun latest pla.. hehehehe 8)
dapat pre handle nya Ma-Idol-HK.. ;D ;D
tanong ko lang guys, kung ano ba ibig sabihin kapag idle yung HK... naka-standby mode ba yun??? ???
hi james, naka on pero di ka nag p-play ng source. :)
James,
Ok lang idle yan... 67 watts na ata kain nyang hehehehe
had my loving hk checked, since i experienced a massive power disaster at home. great service provided by servimax (gilmore, qc). thanks alot everyone of servimax! great service in the phils is a rarity.
mga sirs magkano ang hk2550
how about the hk1550, hk2500?
meron ba dito nito and how much???
thanks
any comments, review, suggestion on the HK1550?
and also bakit mababa ang wattage ng mga HKs?
ok ok ok, may nagsabi nga na kahit low wattage hks " will blow me away" daw
teka lang what's Logic 7? and V-max
eto ba'y yung jazz/hall/ ng ibang receivers?
for purpose of movies (60-70%)and listening to CDs (40-30%)lang naman
the room is 8x5 sq meters, windows on two walls
anyways im downloading the owner's manual,
last Q's(sana)
1.based on your experience, what enty level speakers are good with the 1550?
heard that the Dai-ichis are performing well or at par with wharfs
2. is it true na madaling uminit ang HKs dahil high current?
thanks james,
gusto ko sana floorstanders, bookshelves pa lang ng MA medyo out of budget na.
thanks hans,
WD8.4, 8C are frontrunners on my choices
case is im on a TIGHT budget, that's why im getting fronts first (or with center) along with the receiver.
what are the diffs between the 1550/2550 except ofcourse for the obvious Logic7 and Vmax?
if the 1550 sounds the same or almost the same as the 2550 then it's my winner, i will just plug in my DVD player nothing more.
thanks a bunch guys, keep em coming.
I was at Parksquare 1 last night to buy a AKG K-55 sa 5th ave. While walking towards 5th Ave... I looked at spectra's show window and saw a HK 2550 with Inputs on the front. :o
Is this a new model?
di ko sure pero sabi sakin ni jim dati, may lumabas na 3550 na may front panel inputs din.
tapos nakuha ko sa website :
AVR 2550
Audio/Video Receiver with Dolby® Digital and DTS®
Redefining Dolby Digital/DTS Receiver value. In addition to Dolby® Digital, Dolby Pro Logic® II and DTS® surround decoding, this AVR 2550 has Harman Kardon's exclusive Logic 7® and VMAx® decoding. The AVR 2550's output power of 40 watts per channel in surround mode backed up by a high-current capability of ±25 amps can make your living room sound and feel just like a movie theater. For analog fans, an all-new Stereo bypass mode uses a fully analog path from source to output stage that preserves all of the subtleties of the original recording. And setup is simpler than ever with color-coded rear-panel connections that conform to the new CEA standard. The AVR 2550 - classic Harman Kardon performance in an affordable, feature-filled package.
James16,
Ok lng yun nauna ka naman nagkaroon ng hk receiver.... ;D ;D ;D
yup james ganun na nga lang,
3T din ang difference nila, pandagdag din sa speakers di ba,
teaka magkano ba floorstanders ng monitor audio?
B6 ba yun?
Hans, oo nga can't wait to go to metro manila
(taga pampanga ako eh) to audition..
teka paano nga ba mag audition???
wala bang tips?
waht DVDs to bring kasi medyo memorize ko na sound ng Matrix's Shooting at the lobby.
saka Eagles Hell Freezes Over
logic 7 (take note, this work only on 2 channel source like cds or vcds/ocassionaly selected dvds)
hmmm in that case medyo lumamang yung 1550
i just want pure, warm sound
anyways, im ALMOST sold to the HKs
also, been hearing that Dai-ichi/US Audio/DTX9.5
can perform at par with wharfedales, DTX is listed 91db on sensitivity, (naks dami ko ng alam) while 87db lang ang wharf8.4
that said receiver works double time to power lower sensitivity di ba?
also compare to Wharf price dirt cheap ang DTX, 3,8k yata pair,
has anyone tried this combination.
hmmm in that case medyo lumamang yung 1550
i just want pure, warm sound
anyways, im ALMOST sold to the HKs
also, been hearing that Dai-ichi/US Audio/DTX9.5
can perform at par with wharfedales, DTX is listed 91db on sensitivity, (naks dami ko ng alam) while 87db lang ang wharf8.4
that said receiver works double time to power lower sensitivity di ba?
also compare to Wharf price dirt cheap ang DTX, 3,8k yata pair,
has anyone tried this combination.
nebs, pardon my igmoranus mind pero ano yung hk's <.7 thd?
so parang PROLOGIC II yung Logic7, pero up to 7 channels yung Logic7 hmmm interesting...
this Friday... hehehehe ;D ;D
Sebman, J_albert, James & jvm bili bili na HK boys..
this Friday... hehehehe ;D ;D
Sebman, J_albert, James & jvm bili bili na HK boys..
Aba! Wala na ako sa circulation ha...
Puwede kaya yan sa aking lowly 2550? ;D
pwede yan, dun sa cd-in ikakabit yung pre-amp. cd/dvd player to WS preamp tapos a Cd-in ng hk 2550.... tone out mo...
Hmm... tried and tested na ba yan?
Slayer,
Masyado ka nagpapayaman hehehe sama ka sa Sat ulit pre same venue akyat tayo ulit..... hehehe
S2kov,
Your maybe right... Saturday will know hehehehe..
James,
Ready na talaga bitbitin yan HK mo?? hehehe
Slayer,
Masyado ka nagpapayaman hehehe sama ka sa Sat ulit pre same venue akyat tayo ulit..... hehehe
ano kaya tunog ng HK receiver + Monitor audio B2 + Wiredstate pre-amp?
(http://www.cuteful.hytekhosting.com/uploads/hk&b2.JPG)
CURIOUS KA NO?????
Abangan ang reviews from last night....
for the CURIOUS ones... check out the pix and review here:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=17630
Philander,
HK2550 they hook it up thru the CD In and tone out...
James,
Decided na ba??
sEbman,
Allan pag maganda sound ng combo HK/MA/WS... PANALO naman yan... hehehehe 8)
James,
OT..PRe hope matuloy yun kay Nels para will hear the difference..
Zypher, nice meeting you sir...so what do you think Rica o Maui??
Hans,
What do you think? Which connection do you preferred? The Amp In
or CD In
connection?
what cd players did you use in the listening session?
cousin, we used pioneer 233 and 733. both are just dvd players but for our ears they sound good. ;D
cousin skeeter,
Congrats on your new toys ganda ng mga yan...
Sir the experience last Saturday was truly captivating and engaging!! :) :) that present us thinking of that great listening experienced...
bros,
instead of me getting a dedicated cd player, would you recomend getting a WS instead as preamp with my xenon dvd player as audio source and hk2550 receiver? were you able to test the WS with a generic dvd player?
i went to the sm appliance store yesterday and requested if they could setup a xenon and pioneer dvd to play audio so i could compare. result was, although there was an improvement with the sound, it was hardly noticeable. i had to listen very carefully to hear it. if i was listening casually, i could not have noticed the difference. we tested both analog and digital out (guy attending was very courteous, very rare in sm appliance stores) but still it did not impress me. anyway, it got me thinking that instead of getting a dedicated cd player, ill get a ws instead. would you recommend this? thanks guys!
s2kov,
CD in connection -
regards to level of preamp before 1 oclock meron poping pero after 57hours break in nawala sa 1 o clock nasa 4 o clock na maybe after the required period mawala yun poping sound...
Yes I would recommend that you get the WS pre-amp first. then eventually the CD player (iba talaga ang may dedicated IMO :) )
s2kov,
Regards to my initial post on connection CD in / Amp IN
Have notice that i had used 2 different IC kaya pala iba sound hehehe. pero after I same brand of IC pareho na sound sir.. kaya CD IN na talaga connection ko.. tapos 10:30 fix ang level ng preamp..also done some A/B comparison on the output of standard player to the preamp and 1030 ang pinakamalapit na level pre. :D :D
bros,
instead of me getting a dedicated cd player, would you recomend getting a WS instead as preamp with my xenon dvd player as audio source and hk2550 receiver? were you able to test the WS with a generic dvd player?
cousin skeeter,
pssss pre mas ok pa preamp dun.. hehehehe. 8)
J_albert,
Sir syempre puro coins ang pocket ko eh.. hehheheehe
I was just wondering why the HK's here in the philippines are way overpriced.the 325 which is the equivalent of 4550 if I'm not mistaken is selling for $420 on average in the states. which is roughly 23k while the 4550 sells heres for 37k...that;s almost 14k difference.the 525 is averaging $550 which is about 30k,I dont know the exact price of the 5550 here but im sure that it's selling over 40k.I was seriously considering going the HK route but now is a bit hesitant because of this.Can somebody please enlighten me,thanks :)bigbird2323,
cousin skeeter,
Remember when your still auditioning/ hunting HK and B2 combo you mention that you saw an x10d hook up... and sounded very sweet and warm...
pssss pre mas ok pa preamp dun.. hehehehe. 8)
bigbird2323,
if you know someone from singapore, the prices there are pretty low. check the thread bout 2 months ago JT (pinoydvd member) bought a 5500 for a friend and its price was around the same as a 3550. youll have to consider shipping though.
MK,
congrats at may dvd25 ka na.... ;D
JT,
Ok pala sir... still cheaper even with the freight cost.. hope it also honor international warranty.. ;D
OT
JT, available din ba ang Rotel amp dyan sa place mo, im planning on going there sometime next year
thanks
Yup, available naman lahat ng brand dito. Check mo sa Adelphi near City Hall mrt.
tanong ko lang po sir, nung nagsale ng HK DVD25 or DVD21 dyan, magakano kaya in peso... at kung meron pang skeduled sale dyan ulit????
Nels76,
Uy ganda yan pre DVD21.. order na..
J_albert,
Si Akyat may bago naman toy hehehhe Congrats Roger.. Ganda talaga yan.. pre..
Nels76,
Uy ganda yan pre DVD21.. order na..
J_albert,
Si Akyat may bago naman toy hehehhe Congrats Roger.. Ganda talaga yan.. pre..
Hans, James,
Yup. DVD 21 is coming to town. Soon. A relative will be selling his to me.
James,
Pre si Roger may bagong toy... kaya puyat palagi and new believer sya nun brand hehehe... Akyat paramdam ka naman hirap ng marami pera.. ;D ;D
James,
Pre si Roger may bagong toy... kaya puyat palagi and new believer sya nun brand hehehe... Akyat paramdam ka naman hirap ng marami pera.. ;D ;D
J_albert,
Malupet.. ang type ni Sir Raycor.. high end sound ang hanap, hope after our listening session eh makadecide na sya hehehe.. 8)
James,
Baka next year sir.. hiya ako small lang kubo ko and baka magiba dahil heavy weight tayo... ;D ;D paglipat ko na lang sa Pasay dun pwede na siguro sir... :D :D
James,
Baka next year sir.. hiya ako small lang kubo ko and baka magiba dahil heavy weight tayo... ;D ;D paglipat ko na lang sa Pasay dun pwede na siguro sir... :D :D
OY bago bahay means bago gamit kaya akin yong WS ha 50% off ;D;D
peeps,
does anyone know the max volume setting of the hk2550? wala kasi sa manual. and also, whats the highest that youve tested. takot kasi ako mag push beyond -10db. baka umusok, hehehe.
james,
whats ur dvd player bro? survey na lang tayo.
to all hk avr owners, what dvd players are you using and max volume you've tested? thanks!
the ancient but dependable pioneer DV233... ;Dwow :o ganda naman sana ako din ;D lupit mo talaga idol
hopefully 2nd qrtr next year, hk dvd player ang mabili ko.
wow :o ganda naman sana ako din ;D lupit mo talaga idol
ano pang hinihintay mo pre. unahan mo na si james.. bili ka na ng dvd25.. ;D ;D
The HK in United Square Shop here in Singapore is offering a couple of their receivers on sale:
AVR 1550 (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%201550/230&language=ENGLISH) $338 (was $680) (no 5.1ch inputs?!?!) 40wpc, 11kg
AVR 5550 (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%205550/230&language=ENGLISH) $898 (was $1,700) Logic7 & HDCD, 70wpc 20kg
hi bro!
is this is singapore or US dollars??? 8)
In singapore dollars so multiply by 31 to convert to peso.
The HK in United Square Shop here in Singapore is offering a couple of their receivers on sale:
AVR 1550 (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%201550/230&language=ENGLISH) $338 (was $680) (no 5.1ch inputs?!?!) 40wpc, 11kg
AVR 5550 (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%205550/230&language=ENGLISH) $898 (was $1,700) Logic7 & HDCD, 70wpc 20kg
j_albert22, sebman and slayer,
medyo matagal pa yun eh... ;D
slayer,
sent you pm..
that's fooking cheap....round here the 5550 is going for £900, talk about being ripped-off
tnx for the heads-up JT
Cousin skeeter,
Pre actually yun 5500 nun sale the price was P29k lang at SM city north edsa..
to all hk avr owners, what dvd players are you using and max volume you've tested? thanks!
The HK in United Square Shop here in Singapore is offering a couple of their receivers on sale:
AVR 1550 (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%201550/230&language=ENGLISH) $338 (was $680) (no 5.1ch inputs?!?!) 40wpc, 11kg
AVR 5550 (http://international.harmankardon.com/products/?display=product&cat=REC&ser=AVR&prod=AVR%205550/230&language=ENGLISH) $898 (was $1,700) Logic7 & HDCD, 70wpc 20kg
Pre pabili ulit ;) benta ko 5500 ko he he he.... may bibili kaya?
Malaki ba talaga ang kaibahan nung 5550 sa 5500 in terms of features?
ako hintay na lng feb, when ws brings out its new project. baka version 3 ng preamp nila para in case magkasars kayo, bigay nyo na lng sakin yung ws preamps nyo ngayon, or if not half the price na lng ;D ;D ;D
ako hintay na lng feb, when ws brings out its new project. baka version 3 ng preamp nila para in case magkasars kayo, bigay nyo na lng sakin yung ws preamps nyo ngayon, or if not half the price na lng ;D ;D ;D
hehe mautak si pinsan skeeter... ako rin hintayin ko lumala ang sars niyo para ibenta niyo sakin next year ang B2 niyo. pwede na ocho-ocho (8k)?
Iceman,
Ok yan integrated.. hope meron input for our WS preamp natin... ::) ::)
Mk,
Have tried new connection and provided very good result.. A must buy pre..
happy holiday.. ;D
di daw bagay... Bagay na Bagay ;D pati sa speakers ;)
Patay na naman tayo nyan...
"... honey, kailangan kasi talaga bilhin yang amp - malungkot kasi yung preamp kung nagiisa o, tingnan mo...
...atsaka valentines day naman ngayon eh, labs mo ko di ba? para sa atin naman ito eh...
...tara pasyal tayo sa alabang town center... uy andito na rin lang tayo - sandali lang may dadaanan lang ako "
;D ;D ;D pwede na ba script ko kay kumander?
hehe mautak si pinsan skeeter... ako rin hintayin ko lumala ang sars niyo para ibenta niyo sakin next year ang B2 niyo. pwede na ocho-ocho (8k)?
Kung sino man gusto mag dispose ng kanyang B4 andito lang ako. ;D ;D ;D
Kung sino man gusto mag dispose ng kanyang B4 andito lang ako. ;D ;D ;D
slayer,
Wowow!! B4 agad teka OT tayo.. ;D ;D sure match for you HK pre..
Siyempre HK/MA B4!! ;D
Kung may magbebenta lang... ahehehe... ;D
James,
Pre iba talaga ang marami bonus this christmas.. pre how can i get the bass cd sir??
"So Nice" ika ngang favorite song ni Sebman. ;D
to all kwela guys and the others,
last night i had a chance to try out the hk dvd21 of nels76 sa bahay namin.we tested it against sa legendary pioneer ko (dv233), we first tried yung song ni corine may sa pioneer, then sa hk dvd21, there was a little difference, mas detailed ng konti yung hk pero di nalalayo sa pioneer.
i checked the manual ng dvd21, 96/24 bit dac pala sya, akala ko 192/24 bit... ???
overall, lamang pa din ang hk dvd21 but not that much sa audio, wish ko lang na ma-try sa dvd25 dahil 192/24 bit dac na yun.
guys,
isnt it that dacs are software dependent? how many khz/bit does an ordinary audio CD have?
16 bit, 44.1Khz
Nelson,
Was able to audition side by side DVD21 and a Universal DVD player both have detail and clear sound but HKdvd21 have wider soundstage, depth and produced lively music.. yun isa flat music lang..
Onkyo Integra AVR
HK DVD21
DVD player
Generic RCA
Definitive speakers
Generic speaker wire..
Still Hk for me sir..
kwela,
Merry christmas and Happy new year!!
To All HK lovers,
Happy Holiday!!!!!!
(http://international.harmankardon.com/products/images/product_large/AVR505.gif)
sweet momma.. ;D ;D avr 505 LE
Hans & Sebman,
Salamat! ;D Happy New Gear!! ;D
Kelan session natin? ;)
sama ko dyan hehehe bat kayo lang ;D ;D ;D
si james din bihira ko na mapansin. ;D
Guys,
any update on the Limited edition HK AVR and dvd players??
sir
i have the 507 limited edition and im pairing it with an MA set (B4, B2, Bcenter and asw sub)
all i can say is its much better than the previoius AVRs i had (pioneer, denon and marantz), well compared with marantz 7300 there's just minimal difference but compared with the pioner d608 and denon 2802/1803, it was well worth it....goes with good looks as well as a bonus
right now im using an HTPC but i might get a prog scan dvd player na lang, either a DVD25 or a marantz dv4300
btw, im really quite satisfied with my setup now
Happy new year guys, kumusta na mga HK nyo?
Bro,
OT pero kamusta itlog mo?
sir
i have the 507 limited edition and im pairing it with an MA set (B4, B2, Bcenter and asw sub)
all i can say is its much better than the previoius AVRs i had (pioneer, denon and marantz), well compared with marantz 7300 there's just minimal difference but compared with the pioner d608 and denon 2802/1803, it was well worth it....goes with good looks as well as a bonus
right now im using an HTPC but i might get a prog scan dvd player na lang, either a DVD25 or a marantz dv4300
btw, im really quite satisfied with my setup now
mga sir
the B2 is stand-mount as of the moment, but i'll be moving it to the living room once i got hold of a NAD integrated amp and use it for music only
i might get a couple of mission dipoles to use as surround for the b4, setting-up 7.1 (naka sale yugn missions)
the HK was very good and it doesnt heat up like my old marantz 7300, the fan at the back probably helps a lot in this dept
cousin skeeter, the MA sub i got has a switch for audio and video use, mas malambot ang bayo nya pag naka audio, problema lang is nde remote controlled yung sub, so manual switching in between modes (not too bad anyway)
uso din ba sa mga sub jan sa atin yung may switch between audio and video?
ive auditioned d harman avr130 n 330 already @ spectra it sounds so good n d design is very unique
Magkano yung AVR330?
what are their corresponding asian versions?
avr 130 = 1550?
avr 330 = ?
avr 330 = 3550 but 7.1
kimosabe,
Sir 2550 and 3550 would be nice they are both 5.1 and have DTS decoder .. for the last price not idea sir.. but sure hit and HK.. :D :D
Kimera,
Very nice yun sub mo have modes for audio and HT.. :) :)
.....bakit ngayon ka lang...... :( :( :(
guess this is why most of the folks here recommended expensive speakers over expensive receivers especially when budget is a huge consideration as receivers get updated more than speakers.
tested hk/ma, ill probably stick with those.
i'm thinking if i should even bother listening to mission :>
That's why i'm not comfortable seeing new versions lalo na nalaman ko pa'ng mas mura kaysa 5500....
To all the dealers/retailers of HK receivers out there, please pm me ur cheapest DD & DTS 5.1 receiver 100w per channel power output to pair with my wf 8.3 speakers. ;D
if i'm going to get HK though, i still can't decide whether to go 130 or 330. 330 has all the future-proof options i want (pre-out, 7.1, room options, more power, etc) but costs a lot more. hmmm....
guess this is why most of the folks here recommended expensive speakers over expensive receivers especially when budget is a huge consideration as receivers get updated more than speakers.
iceman: how much do they cost?
tested hk/ma, ill probably stick with those.
fyi, 330 is in the 30k up price range. cheaper than a 5500 i think, but not too sure.
i'm currently eying the 130, which is about ~20k price range, but i might end up with the 330, so i won't think about upgradnig anymore.
how does hk/ma sound? warm yet detailed, or rather, not harsh but detailed. love it :> just can't decide between b2 or b4, cost considering of course :>
i'm thinking if i should even bother listening to mission :>
as usual, niko from architechtural audio exercised excellent customer service :>
musta na mga kwela group????
hans adriene, j_albert, sebman, akyat, jvm, slayer, narayan, nels76...
longtime no hear, tinatamaan pa ba kayo ng SARS??? heheheh
ako medyo lay-low ng kaunti kasi lumipat ako ng trabaho at pang-gabi pa kaya madalang pa ako makapag-online....
naglabasan na mga bagong hk models tapos may mga bagong mga audio equipment na lalabas... abangan....
iphase out na ata mga asian models ng hk, kaya iba na itsura nyan pero syempre tuloy pa din ang quality nila....
can't go wrong with the HK.... ;D
I heard the 330 at architectural Audio and I highly recommend it. Im also planning to get one.
hanep ang hk330!!!! 7.1 with 8chan input and preouts! *sigh* if i only knew i cudve waited a little bit longer :(
sir, replacement for your denon 1803? or for another audio room?
replacement.
replacement.
... kasi may component video switching na. i think this was one of your criteria when you got the 1803.
Has anyone asked the shops e.g. Archi Audio and Spectra if payag sila trade in of old HK plus cash with the new models?
Has anyone asked the shops e.g. Archi Audio and Spectra if payag sila trade in of old HK plus cash with the new models?
Sebman and ME,
Check out the hk130 ganda but was not able to audition target ko sana 330 pero wla display hehehe..
nakakabaliw talaga yang SARS na yan ano. bakit ba hindi every 3 years magpalit ng model ang mga iyan ;D ;D ;D
question lang po, what's the entry level 6.1ch amp ng H/K?
thanks
:)
Kaya ayaw kong magbasa nito eh maglalaway lang ako sa new receiver ehehehe lalo na at may bagong HK na pala ulit tapos much cheaper pa sa HK5500 ko waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa :'( ehehe
Anyway the best talaga ang HK, simula nung unang gamit ko hanggang ngayn, no regrets. ;)
Ano ba ang prices ng HK na receivers ngayon? And can it drive the MA speakers?more or less nasa 20T ang HK receivers ngayon yng bagong labas
What other speakers can be paired with this receiver?
Daemon_S,
Pre proud owner HK avr and match with MA B4.. ganda galing...hehhee
lakas talagang manghawa nang SARS nito ;D
j_albert,
Nagbabalik ang HK SARS... may bagong strain nanaman... namely 130 and 330. ;D ;D ;D
oo nga kaakit akit yong bagong HK astig yong dating.... ;D "anyone who awant to buy HK 2550" parang gusto ko na ito post e
sssssssssh pre wag kang maingay 130 wala pa naman lumalabas na 7.1 na DVD sa market tsaka na lang 330
Puwede!!!!!!!!! ;D
HK130 + B4!! PANALO!! ;D
hello everyone! I need your help, specially those who have been using the new HK330
Just would like to know if the HK 330 would be able to drive my Audience 70 since my Dyns are rated at 4 ohms...I'm planning to upgrade my old Sony STR DB930 receiver....I'm also considering the Denon 2803
Also would you know the price range of HK330?
Appreciate your help...thanks :D
Im getting a 330 very soon. Its 30 plus but visit Architectural Audio to get the exact price.
hello everyone! I need your help, specially those who have been using the new HK330
Just would like to know if the HK 330 would be able to drive my Audience 70 since my Dyns are rated at 4 ohms...I'm planning to upgrade my old Sony STR DB930 receiver....I'm also considering the Denon 2803
Also would you know the price range of HK330?
Appreciate your help...thanks :D
heard the hk130 with music, ganda tumunog.... nice looking receiver too, soon to audition it for movies naman... ;D
Courage,
sir musta na.. idol kita sa HK hehehe
heard the hk130 with music, ganda tumunog.... nice looking receiver too, soon to audition it for movies naman... ;D
Are there any other stores beside Architectural Audio and Spectra that sell HK.?..Oh I've also been to Image at Harrison, kaya lang what they're selling are older models of HKin ortigas area..
Malakas bang tumunog ang HK 130? 45 watts/channel lang kasi.
Malakas bang tumunog ang HK 130? 45 watts/channel lang kasi.malakas talaga ang hk. pero best thing is to test it side by side other receivers. thats what i did ;D ;D ;D
Malakas bang tumunog ang HK 130? 45 watts/channel lang kasi.
courage, insan skeeter, toshiba
thanks for the info, isip-isip :-\ ulit kung anong avr ang bibilin ko.
in ortigas area..
accoustical space.. 5/F megamall.. beside informatics..
soundroom.. 5/F podium
hth,
sebman
Bullet,
Wow sayang yun HK cd player maganda ata yun sir.. for the price preowned na yun dito sa pinas pre.. ;D ;D
Just curious bros, can the hk330 accommodate 2 subwoofers? I'm contemplating on adding a second sub for a more earth shaking home theater experience :D
Medyo mahirap kasi makita dun sa illustrated back panel sa site ng HK...
Guys,
What's the max volume level of the 3550? ???
Thanks.
+8db sir. ;D+10 ata sir baka may naka bias pa ;D ;D
I forgot to mention that I am in the Eastern part of KSA. Sorry.
I bought the items in Al-Khobar area.
Ther are also Ref. size Infinity & JBL Speakers costing PHP 28,000.00 only.
Where in Al-Khobar did you buy your items ? I am working in Jubail & last week I was in Khobar looking where I can buy an HK.
I'm planning to bring it home next week but I guess it's too late na. :-[ Anyway, I'll be back after 3 weeks & hopefully the sale is still ongoing. :)
Hmm. medyo malaki yung image ng back panel ng HK...Thanks bro...Y connector....hindi ba yan makaka degrade ang signal?
http://www.harmankardon.com/back.asp?prod=AVR%20330&cat=REC&sType=C
Anyway, isa lang ang pre-out for subwoofer ng HK 330 pero basically pwede kang gumamit ng Y connector.
HTH.
Hi Jedlo,
I bought it in the JVC Showroom near the hukay hukay area where some Filipino restaurants are located.
I suggest that you better ther quickly since they are selling fast. Where are you in Jubail? You can PM me your number so that I can discuss it with you further.
Good Luck!!!! :D
Thanks for the info bullet .... :) You can text/call me at 052777582 so we can discuss more about your setup.
I got my hk 330 last thursday, I suppose I'll share some of my thoughts.
Was love at first -audition- for me, I loved how the HK 330 sounded with the Monitor Audio Bronzes and I never did find an equivalent that sounded as nice to me (veeery subjective). Admittedly, I tried a limited number of speakers to go with the 330 (Mission, Acoustic Energy, KEF) and in the end, the MA B's still did it for me.
I'll focus on the receiver itself: it looks good, loved the old 2550, 3550, 5550 and i loved these newer models even better. I'm a sucker for blue lights on stuff so the blue backlight on the volume control was a big plus. I loved the two tone aspect as well.
Connectionwise, this is why I chose the 330 over the 130: preamp out. Admittedly, I'll probably not use this feature for a long time to come, but I'll probably want to connect it to a headphone amp one of these adys, I'd like to have that option ready at least. Component switching was another plus for me, as well as optical/coax in and out (though this was present in the 130 as well).
The remote was hefty, lights up when you press the buttons. I have to say, as my first receiver remote, it was pretty daunting. I know how to change the volume, set up speakers and such, but I've yet to get into the more advanced functions (such as programming the remote for tv use).
Displaywise, the receiver's face-plate screen was pretty adequate. I've yet to use the receiver's OSD function, but when I tested it in spectra, the display text in the bottom is very 'shakey', like it would not sit still and keeps moving from side to side. The OSD menu itself was less susceptible to this. I'm thinking it might have something to do with PAL/NTSC compatibility issues.
The volume levels start at -80 to 10? (just read it a few posts up). I regularly listen to it at the -30 to -20 level, without going over -20. Was plenty loud to me. I'm only using fronts and centre at this time though, so I'm not sure if this is indicative to the amount of power the receiver can put out.
As for the DSPs, I tried Stereo, 3 channel Dolby Digital, DPLII, VMAX, DTS and I did not encounter anything odd or unusual. I haven't done much critical listening, but after 4 days, I've no complaints. You can hear the differences between DSPs and Surround Modes though, especially VMAX.
I would have gotten the 230, if it were available, as the price is better (lower) for me and it had all of the connections available to the 330 (except 7.1 I think). Not sure about EZset, but that's another thing I liked about the 330 (but I've yet to figure it out as well :>).
One last thing: this thing is heavy! Had a difficult time moving it around, as it was very heavy and I was being extra careful.
Brod,
Tried to call you but your mobile is off.
I don;t actually have a set up here. What I have is an HK receiver and a piar of JBL speakers. I don't even have a decent CD player hehehe/ Catch the sale while it is still on.
Pag inabot ng sweldo yun after the holidays sigurado ubos yun ;D.
May complete set up ako sa Phil. but a different AVR and a different set of speakers. ;)
I got my hk 330 last thursday, I suppose I'll share some of my thoughts.
Was love at first -audition- for me, I loved how the HK 330 sounded with the Monitor Audio Bronzes and I never did find an equivalent that sounded as nice to me (veeery subjective). Admittedly, I tried a limited number of speakers to go with the 330 (Mission, Acoustic Energy, KEF) and in the end, the MA B's still did it for me.
I'll focus on the receiver itself: it looks good, loved the old 2550, 3550, 5550 and i loved these newer models even better. I'm a sucker for blue lights on stuff so the blue backlight on the volume control was a big plus. I loved the two tone aspect as well.
Connectionwise, this is why I chose the 330 over the 130: preamp out. Admittedly, I'll probably not use this feature for a long time to come, but I'll probably want to connect it to a headphone amp one of these adys, I'd like to have that option ready at least. Component switching was another plus for me, as well as optical/coax in and out (though this was present in the 130 as well).
The remote was hefty, lights up when you press the buttons. I have to say, as my first receiver remote, it was pretty daunting. I know how to change the volume, set up speakers and such, but I've yet to get into the more advanced functions (such as programming the remote for tv use).
Displaywise, the receiver's face-plate screen was pretty adequate. I've yet to use the receiver's OSD function, but when I tested it in spectra, the display text in the bottom is very 'shakey', like it would not sit still and keeps moving from side to side. The OSD menu itself was less susceptible to this. I'm thinking it might have something to do with PAL/NTSC compatibility issues.
The volume levels start at -80 to 10? (just read it a few posts up). I regularly listen to it at the -30 to -20 level, without going over -20. Was plenty loud to me. I'm only using fronts and centre at this time though, so I'm not sure if this is indicative to the amount of power the receiver can put out.
As for the DSPs, I tried Stereo, 3 channel Dolby Digital, DPLII, VMAX, DTS and I did not encounter anything odd or unusual. I haven't done much critical listening, but after 4 days, I've no complaints. You can hear the differences between DSPs and Surround Modes though, especially VMAX.
I would have gotten the 230, if it were available, as the price is better (lower) for me and it had all of the connections available to the 330 (except 7.1 I think). Not sure about EZset, but that's another thing I liked about the 330 (but I've yet to figure it out as well :>).
One last thing: this thing is heavy! Had a difficult time moving it around, as it was very heavy and I was being extra careful.
Thanks for sharing. I have decided to get the 330 also. I heard it at Arch Audio and it is indeed very good. I ordered but it will only be available by Thurs so for the meantime, no watching muna because I already gave my Denon 1803 to my client.galing nman sir. pag mag upgrade ka pwede agad ksi you have clients na kukuha ng extra gear mo. nice job too. ako siguro enjoy na enjoy doing that, setting up audio/ht for others. hehehe
galing nman sir. pag mag upgrade ka pwede agad ksi you have clients na kukuha ng extra gear mo. nice job too. ako siguro enjoy na enjoy doing that, setting up audio/ht for others. hehehe
Got na my HK but no time to install.
Sebman,
Si J_albert di makatulog sa bagong Hk and speaker na type nya hehehehe
For those interested in knowing how HK 330 performs with a console (Xbox in this case), here are my impressions:congrat pare you get the best Reciever.. happy viewing and listening
Even with a 3 speaker setup (B2 + BCentre), playing games like Deus Ex: Invisible War lets you hear 3d effects pretty effectively. You can tell if a sound comes from behind or directly in front of you. Of course, this doesn't beat having surrounds, but it does great regardless.
While me and my friend were playing Dynasty Warriors 4 using split screen, positional audio was even more pronounced (i wouldn't go as far as saying its realistic, but it does the job of telling you if the sound came from the front or from behind). Even while the sound effects were filling up the room, you can still hear each and every effect distinctly.
I've tried the different surround options: DPL2, Logic7, VMAX, Dolby Stereo 3 and they're pretty effective at what they do. I usually play with DPL2 though for movies, DTS is still where it's at (its much louder than Dolby Digital, which seems to make peopl think it sounds better than DD, me included).
I suppose, in my case, both the speakers and the receiver are working in tandem in presenting excellent '3d sound'. The bronzes are very accurate and the HK 330 processed signals from the Xbox really well. I'd have to say that, coming from PC speakers (creative FPS2000, the best 4.1 solution for its time) and PC sound cards like SB Live (I'd like to try the Audigy 2 one of these days), the HK+MA combo presented a huge improvement when it comes to gaming (cost notwithstanding of course :> you do get what you pay for).
JVM,
Ganda HK sir.. the big switch!!! hehehee ;D ;D
Just been to Digital Dreams at SM City Cyberzone the other day and i was able to audition both HK4550 and the AVR130, all i can say is the AVR130 sounded warmer than the HK4550 both on flat settings, tested both reciever on a JBL Floorstanders.
Its true Sir JVM, HK has a warmer sound but try to audition also the AVR130, you might surprise yourself on hearing the difference of these line of recievers! :o
And one of guys there offered me that he can give the AVR130 for Php20,+ if it will be acquired on a cash basis!
And offered me these also:
HK2550 Php18,000
AVR330 Php31,000
what do you think guys?
imho id say go with the newer version.. if budget permits go with the 330... its already 7.1, hence its upgrade proof.. ;D :D
Cousin skeeter,
Hk230 hope would be nicely price para naman ma-afford natin.. ::) ::)
courage,
just thinking sir... pero malabo siguro ::) ::)
Ayaw ata ilabas sa kahon ni Blade baka magasgasan
hehehe....
mamaya ko pa lang i-setup yung HK....
medyo napadalas ang eb kaya gabi na ako nakakauwi...
bro dex/sand...na-miss namin kayo nila isak/diamond oks yung new place nila...sked natin ulit yung audition sa place nila...
Any thoughts on the phantom center of harman? wala pa po kasi ko center. I noticed na mahina compared to onkyo... using evo3 for fronts and wharf for surrond.. thanks...
Hi HK veterans,
May I post here?
I have just acquired my HK130 e 8.3 palang po speakers ko so stereo lang muna ko and used it mostly sa music which is superb. My question is why do i get only 48Khz displayed when I play audiophile CDs which labeled 192/24 is there I need to set-up on the AVR?
I am using Pioneer DV-555k player and optical out.
CD - XRCD 192Khs/24bit "Shelly"
thanks
N_dot
HTnovice,
Have experience that before nun wla ako center.. kaya buy ka na center since most dialogue comes from center channel.
sir gren, sundin ko payo mo... kaya lang di sigurado magma-match.. ill use my very old philips surround... hehehe ;D
another question, when playing mp3 on my dvd player.. it does not output thru digital connection, analog lang. On the AVR, my default is digital coax... lagi ba na i have to manually set the connection to analog to hear the music? di po ba automatic detection like in other avrs?
thanks
This is what I did with my set-up: I only have a dvd player. It is used for dvd and for cd/mp3/vcd. I connect its digital ouput via optical cable. I also connect its analog output to the analog cd-in.
Next, assign the connections for each source. Select DVD as source, and assign the connection as optical/coax connection. Then select CD as the source, assign analog as the connection. You will only do this one time.
After doing this, you can now just select the source and the appropriate connection is automatically detected.
So if you watch movies, select dvd as source, and it will connect thru optical/coax.
If you like to listen to music CDs and you want it connected thru analog, select CD as source.
If you want your cd to output via digital, select dvd even if you're just playing cd. Or select CD as source if you like to listen to concert DVDs in stereo.
Same is true for mp3's.
Did I make myself understood? I hope this helps. :)
Hi sir,
Thanks for the reply... this is how my set up is configured as well. i guess di talaga autodetect ng signal. pero ok lang kasi HK rocks!
Thanks,
HTNovice
Guys,
Balita sa price ng 4550 and 5550 nagdrop kaya??
you can check the hk website for the downloadable manual, you should be able to confirm this for yourself. the hk 130 is found in the american hk site though (and not the usual international, at least, not the last time i checked). i'm pretty sure it does though, just not 100% :>
Gone to spectra the other day and learn that HK130 bass crossover can be adjusted.. Hk130 owners can anyone confirm?? thanks
Did you remove the plastic coating on the face plate of your HK?
Did you remove the plastic coating on the face plate of your HK?
mga sir, ano po ba ang kalevel ng Onkyo TX SR601 sa Harman Kardon?
Maraming Salamat! :)
ramdom,Thanks Hans & France! :)
Sir try to audition them kung pwede side by side the better. try mo listening in style sa shangrila i think they carry both brands..
out of curiosity, are the new HK models (130 & 330) being sold in manila at the moment 220v or 110v?220V
Hi Guys,
Does anybody here has a setup of HK 330 paired MS914 speaker? Appreciate much if you can post a review.
Cheers!
bro,
if you already own an HK330 and you want to audition it with a fully broken in MS914, we can arrange that in my place. just pm me. :)
question? what floor standing speaker match well (tama ba term?) will HK 130?
may i know your biased opinion guys? bias kasi i know you have different set-up. ;D just want to hear from you guys as im using a bookshelf. para mapaghahandaan ko na floor standing fronts. ;D
J_albert,
Congrats pala sa bagong bago mong toys.... kala ko ba speaeker muna sir..
HK 130 na... wowow!!
shhhhhhhhhhh wag kang maingay ;D ;D
j_albert,
sarap na naman mag leave nyan
does anyone know the going rate for HK5500?
:)
magagamit ko na ulit sa wakas iyung hk5500 ko. 2months ko lang nagamit iyon but now na pauwi na ako galing abraod, yehey it's time to rock again....imagine watching dvd's in playstation and just tv for almost 1 year here in uae. ang tagal kong nagtiis ng wala iyong bayo ng subwoofer at siempre ng walang amp or receiver....tuloy na ang ligaya.... ;D
parang nararamdaman ko may "mabuting" balak ka naman bro ;D ;D ;D
nagtatanong lang - may interesado kaya sa 2nd hand na HK5500? ;)
magagamit ko na ulit sa wakas iyung hk5500 ko. 2months ko lang nagamit iyon but now na pauwi na ako galing abraod, yehey it's time to rock again....imagine watching dvd's in playstation and just tv for almost 1 year here in uae. ang tagal kong nagtiis ng wala iyong bayo ng subwoofer at siempre ng walang amp or receiver....tuloy na ang ligaya.... ;D
nagtatanong lang - may interesado kaya sa 2nd hand na HK5500? ;)
uy bro...pag-usapan natin yan... 8)
redmagic,
Floorstander to match with HK avr?? mmh Dai-ichi, Wharf diamond 8.3/ 8.4, Monitor Audio B4, Mordaunt Short 914, Mission M73i / M74i or B&W pre all the speaker i mention can match well with HK now its up to you to choose what music and sound you like.. meron dyan laidback or upfront meron high and bass or meron mid lang anong gusto mo sir. lahat sila kanya kanyang qualities..
Floorstander what to expect para sa akin sir eh big sound.
tried my Tono preamp on the HK5500's amp in last night, and woh! The sound opened up :) :)
this is making me reconsider selling... but guess i'll just leave it in the marketplace in case someone wants it :)
Tama ka jan pre! Kya nga ko love ko HK5500 ko lalo na when connected to tono preamp. Magic di bah!!!! ;) ;) ;)
yahoo pauwi ka na uli ako rin eh pag nandito walang gumagamit, bagay kahit nandoon ako di ko rin magamit ;D
sama tayo sa EB kina Superman sa 18 April Tube listening session yon
ehehehehe nice bro. ako nga andito lang sa pinas at nasa bahay lang HK ko nde ko pa nagagamit lol, wala na akong pambili nang DVD ehehehe pati CD lol, kaya nood na lang nang TV ;D
j_albert,
Congrats nga pala sa BAGO mong HK 130.
And B4.
Bagay jan sa HK130 mo iyong may "30" din na number. Like Pacific EVO 30. ;D
cheers.
j_albert,
upgrade kaagad sa EVO30. Ahehehehehe ;D ;D
Sebman,
Upgrade na ulit hehehe ::) pre you should audition the HK 130 galing sir. bka ma-SARS ako ha hehehe.
boss kimpao.. many thanks don sa DIY ic.. professional looking ka talaga bumanat.. pwede nating ibenta.. ;D :D
redmagic,
Floorstander to match with HK avr?? mmh Dai-ichi, Wharf diamond 8.3/ 8.4, Monitor Audio B4, Mordaunt Short 914, Mission M73i / M74i or B&W pre all the speaker i mention can match well with HK now its up to you to choose what music and sound you like.. meron dyan laidback or upfront meron high and bass or meron mid lang anong gusto mo sir. lahat sila kanya kanyang qualities..
Floorstander what to expect para sa akin sir eh big sound.
E yung Wharfedale Diamond Series? Pair with HK 130. Maganda ba sa HT and Audio?
ST kimpao,
pssst balita ko avr ata ang next to upgrade... i can smell a Hk130????
330 na!!
ST kimpao,
Di ko na try hehehehe wala na yun HK ko huhuhuh..
Thanks indricold and Hans. Hintay ko na lang loan ko HK 130 na. ;D ;D ;D
maganda HK 130 coz pwede kang makinig nang AM FM na naka DTS mode(nakakatuwa no ;D ;D) then regarding sa x-over you can set every channel from 200hz to 40 hz so di mo masyadong mahahalata kung nakabuhay na yong sub mo.... ;D ;D ;D ;Dsa HK130 nawawala yong gap between the front speaker at nang sub not like yon HK2550 ko dati pansin mo sa HT pareho cla its depend na lang sa setting mo
kimosabe,
B2 yun first speaker nya tapos nagupgrade lang lately sa B4..
pre meron pa namang 2550 a.. subukan mo kung kaya.. :) ;D
Pre,
Di tumatanggap yang si Kimpao ng 2550... gusto niyan 330. Kilala ko yan... ahehehe.. ;D ;D ;D
BOY PALDO!!
di ko alam kay sebman pero, cige anytime anywhere ;D ;D
meron na bang hk4550 dito? para kasing wala pa eh. puro iyung hk330 ang nababasa ko dito. sa abu dhabi kasi puro ito ang nakikita ko matched with jbl or infinity speakers. isang set-up bale ang benta doon kaya wala akong idea kung magkano siya kung receiver lang.... ???
sir try nyo sa Spectra park square makati and look jim to be sure ;D
yes sir dati HK2550 combo with Monitor Audio B2 upgrade ako sa HK130 combo with Monitor audio B4.... ;D ;D
yes sir dati HK2550 combo with Monitor Audio B2 upgrade ako sa HK130 combo with Monitor audio B4.... ;D ;D
sir how's the HK130 B4 combo? i'm looking for an AVR that will bring out the best of my B4 but friendly on my pocket. ???
will be using it for 75%-audio/25%-video.
Its not as pocket friendly as other recievers but very friendly to your ears that you wont feel anything in your pocket.
sir how's the HK130 B4 combo? i'm looking for an AVR that will bring out the best of my B4 but friendly on my pocket. ???
will be using it for 75%-audio/25%-video.
thanks to your replies :D :D :D
actually HK is really the first on my list and have been thinking if i will get the 3550(85w x 5) or 130(45w x 5). Sulit kaya price difference of 3550 of 2k-3k considering the the power is almost double over 130? do you think there is a significant difference in terms of sound quality?
thanks to your replies :D :D :D
actually HK is really the first on my list and have been thinking if i will get the 3550(85w x 5) or 130(45w x 5). Sulit kaya price difference of 3550 of 2k-3k considering the the power is almost double over 130? do you think there is a significant difference in terms of sound quality?
its depend sa laki nang lugar mo kung malaki go for 3550 like nung lugar ko 4 x 4 meter lang ok na sakin yong 130 malakas na rin so nasa iyo yan kahit 45 watts lang ang 130 since lahat nang HK e continous power at one thing din ang nagustuhan ko e yong feature nang 130 na wala sa 3550 like cross over setting per channel at ang maganda pa nito pwede kang makinig ng AM na nakaDTS mode ;D ;D ;D ;D
actually HK is really the first on my list and have been thinking if i will get the 3550(85w x 5) or 130(45w x 5). Sulit kaya price difference of 3550 of 2k-3k considering the the power is almost double over 130? do you think there is a significant difference in terms of sound quality?
Sir correction alam ko yun 3550 is only 50 watts or so?? yun 5500 ang 85 watts.. ;D
got a 3550 paired with monitor audio B4.. ok for both ht/audio.. just don't listen to a tube amp.. :D ;D
pre, balita ko upgrade mo raw yang hk mo to 330. ;D ala na pre, nakarinig na ng tubo yan. mwehehehehe
sebman,
Pre give tube another listen baka this time ma-hook ka na.. >:D
got a 3550 paired with monitor audio B4.. ok for both ht/audio.. just don't listen to a tube amp.. :D ;D
i agree with you sir pero itong si kimpao pinarinig saken yung st70-b4 and scott-b4 combo kaya im having sleepless nights....
sebman,
Pre give tube another listen baka this time ma-hook ka na.. >:D
sebman,
Pre little boy paldo ka rin naman eh... >:D >:D bili na!!
Nels,
sir wla pa ata dito sa pinas yan..
hindi magkakaroon ng 230 dito
Andito na ba HK 230 sa atin?
Review rating link below. 9.7/10. In deutsche nga lang.
http://www.kieskeurig.nl/nl/review.nsf/id/8492085120676C86C1256E32004CA25E.htm
Zakkaz,
Ha bakit naman kaya?? sino na ba local distributor ng HK??
Nels,
Correct ka dyan pero wla na rin yun 2550 ko.. wla na akong HT setup.. audio na lang..
Courage,
Pre musta soundwise different favor ata yun x30 series warmer but the power is still there.. wla na HT setup after nagswap kami ni Iceman ng 5500 to 2550 + Hafler eh.. nag pure audio na ako. how your 5500??
Zakkaz,i dont know y beyond innovation ang local distributor ng hk dto
Ha bakit naman kaya?? sino na ba local distributor ng HK??
Just got back from Spectra.... dragging an H/K AVR-330 and a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 8.4's. ;D I guess this should suffice for now. Now to set it all up...
Oh? I think these are already broken in... Norah Jones didn't sound stiff at all when Jim tested it. Ofcourse the 8.4's were already out in the open already... :o demo unit? he he he.... I don't mind. ;D
Last question, before I set out and buy me cables and connectors... the fan of the AVR-330 isn't moving. Is it suppose to be working 100% of the time, or may temp sensor siya?
Just got back from Spectra.... dragging an H/K AVR-330 and a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 8.4's. ;D I guess this should suffice for now. Now to set it all up...
Just got back from Spectra.... dragging an H/K AVR-330 and a pair of Wharfedale Diamond 8.4's. ;D I guess this should suffice for now. Now to set it all up...
Hi bravo,
Feedback naman sa HK/Wharf combo mo. I just bought an HK 130 and i'ld like to pair it with Wharf 8.4 also. Maganda ba talaga?
slayer,
what speaker cable do use? Hindi pa naman ako bibili ng speaker pero at least may idea na ako. Thanks.
Hi bravo,
Feedback naman sa HK/Wharf combo mo. I just bought an HK 130 and i'ld like to pair it with Wharf 8.4 also. Maganda ba talaga?
Anak ng tipaklong... nabingi ako doon ah...
I just calibrated the setup using EZ-SET 7.1 process... both Dolby D EX 3/2/.1 and Logic 7 7 Ch Cinema. Base volume was -15 as indicated in the manual. Turns out every channels needs +10 adjustments .... returned the volume to -20..... I left to download on the PC, and here comes my dad, turns on the Xbox to play Last Exile ep 11 via XBMC. Nak nang pating, parang nasa isang Rock Concert sa lakas!!! Karimpas kaagad ako para babaan sa -40 ang volume... tamang tama na... he he he. (now that I checked, sabi nga sa manual, i lagay sa -40 after calibrating... ngek)
same experience - though parang mali yung instructions ng HK, kasi ngayon hindi pa rin pantay ang spl nyan per channel. para mas tama:
- set the individual channels to -10
- set master volume to 0
- start ezset
makikita mo, hindi na +10 lahat ng channel
unsolicited advice
tsaka see if my default volume setting na pwede mo iactivate. yung hk5500 pwede mo i-set sa -50, -40, etc yung default volume. para whenever you power up the receiver walang chance na madamage dahil nakalagay pala sa malakas na volume setting
Thanks I'll try this next.
That's the strange part, it's in the OSD's advance menu, I think.... or anyway, yung default is always at the last volume you place it at... tingnan ko kung mag stastay sa iba once I set it.
Available na ba dito ang AVR 430?
If yes how much kaya?
;D
courage iwan mo na kami ni enygma sa HK5500
Ahahaha oi nde ah, love na love ko HK5500 ko ehehehehe, nagtatanong lang ako lol. Kuntento na ako sa HK5500, habang tumatagal lalong gumaganda ehehe
Musta na bro? :)
di nga naman..hehehehe naghahanap lang siya iyung para sa kwarto lang niya....hk5500 sa living room and hk330 sa bedroom....ang lupet!!!!! ;D
courage,
Pre power amp lang solution mo dyan sa multi room yakang yaka.. >:D >:D
mga sirs tanong lang po, my friend want's to buy a HK5550, nakakita kami sa sm city north car park, nakalimutan ko na yung name nang store but they also carry Denon and JBL speakers. parehas lang ba yun nang HK5500? then suggest ko sa kanya speakers ay pagawa kay sir nirv, ayos kaya combo nun? thanks in advance at mabuhay ang Pinoydvd.com!!! 8)
mga sirs tanong lang po, my friend want's to buy a HK5550, nakakita kami sa sm city north car park, nakalimutan ko na yung name nang store but they also carry Denon and JBL speakers. parehas lang ba yun nang HK5500? then suggest ko sa kanya speakers ay pagawa kay sir nirv, ayos kaya combo nun? thanks in advance at mabuhay ang Pinoydvd.com!!! 8)
... the max. power consumption of hk5550 is more than 1000 watts...ga-plantsa na.... :o
Andito na ba HK 230 sa atin?
Review rating link below. 9.7/10. In deutsche nga lang.
http://www.kieskeurig.nl/nl/review.nsf/id/8492085120676C86C1256E32004CA25E.htm
it's now available at architectural audio... :)
wow me 230 na dito.. oissttt mga repapeepss... eto na yung hinihintay nyo.. ;D :D tawag na sa archi for the price.. O0
need your help! my hk avr-330's front lcd panel or osd doesn't lit up anymore. i bought it last feb. and only been powered 3 times. i tried the troubleshooting from the manual but still not working. also, the composite video out monitor is not working properly. i can't hardly see the menu from the t.v. Any advise or suggestions on fellow hk owners?
Ahahaha oi nde ah, love na love ko HK5500 ko ehehehehe, nagtatanong lang ako lol. Kuntento na ako sa HK5500, habang tumatagal lalong gumaganda ehehe
Musta na bro? :)
di nga naman..hehehehe naghahanap lang siya iyung para sa kwarto lang niya....hk5500 sa living room and hk330 sa bedroom....ang lupet!!!!! ;D
;D
kala ko bibitawan mo na iyan my precious mo hehehe.... well sakin gamit na gamit pag nasa pinas lang hehehe... Ganda na ng set up mo pati pinaglalagyan ng set up mo congrats..
hey i saw the hk avr230 @ spectra
Ahahaha tenks ehehe inaapi kasi ako eh kaya inayos ko LOL
need your help! my hk avr-330's front lcd panel or osd doesn't lit up anymore. i bought it last feb. and only been powered 3 times. i tried the troubleshooting from the manual but still not working. also, the composite video out monitor is not working properly. i can't hardly see the menu from the t.v. Any advise or suggestions on fellow hk owners?
hey i saw the hk avr230 @ spectra
i thought they wont be having it before
lupit nga eh.. ;D
ey enygma, HK B&W ka naba?
lupit din ng set up mo, ano surrounds mo.
nag auditio ka kina epoy, na try mo ang mga bagong HK sa BW
sorry i wasnt able to ask the price of it
How much for the 230? Thanks
How much for the 230? Thanks
sms nico from architectural audio.. its around 27T... :) for a 4T difference.. suggest you buy the 330.. ^-^
hk 430! lupeet!!! >:D >:D yumyum! often ako sa audio stores dito sa amin but nothing still comes close to a harman when it comes to music sa avrs. if ill be upgrading, definitely itll still be a harman. maybe a 330 or 430. hopefully cheaper na ang mga yan by next year >:D >:D
the 230 is around 27000
sms nico from architectural audio.. its around 27T... :) for a 4T difference.. suggest you buy the 330.. ^-^
Guys,
Wowow 230 and 430 nasa pinas na pala!!
430. hmmm... talaga. ;Di think its below 47T try ask jim of spectra
bravoexo,
does 430/630s have audio dropouts?
pasintabi po...ano diff ng 325 sa 330?
baka naka set ang sleep to 5mins?
otherwise thats not normal. u should have it checked out bro
difference? 325+5 = 330. hehehe. but seriously, the 330 is rated 5 watts per channel more (55 wpc, 7.1) than the 325 (50 wpc, 7.1). i think sa stereo mode theyre rated the same at 65wpc.
Hi HK users,
Question lang po. Yesterday kasi when i got home from office, i turned on immediately my HK 130 and listen to a certain radio station but after five minutes yata it turned off automatically. Then i turned it on again and ganon ulit namatay sya automatically after 5 minutes yata rin. Again i turned it on and yun ayos na hindi nag-off and i used it for almost 3 hrs straight.
Guys, is that normal ???
Thanks for the help.
Hi HK users,
Question lang po. Yesterday kasi when i got home from office, i turned on immediately my HK 130 and listen to a certain radio station but after five minutes yata it turned off automatically. Then i turned it on again and ganon ulit namatay sya automatically after 5 minutes yata rin. Again i turned it on and yun ayos na hindi nag-off and i used it for almost 3 hrs straight.
Guys, is that normal ???
Thanks for the help.
hans, bakit? ano iniisip mo? ???
:D
Puro bare wire connections ka ba sa likod?
Just want to tell you guys that HK 4550 and HK 5550 were on sale last weekend during Megamall Sale at Acoustical Space.
HK 5550 is only about 35K
HK 4550 is 31K
3 units of HK 5550 were sold...
Guys,
Circuit protection yan at least kahit sobra lakas eh iwas damage yun gears..
HK/MA All The Way!!!!!!! >:D >:D O0
James,
Nag session na solo?? hehehe sama kami dyan..
sebman,
Tempting pero no moolah na hehehehe..
kaw pa mawawalan hehehehe pareho tayo kc pasukan na kaya di mkaporma ;D ;D ;D
good news for those waiting for the hk dvd player
nandito na
What model are these?
(http://international.harmankardon.com/products/images/product_large/DVD22.gif)
Yan ba ang walang moolah? pinagi-interesan na mag-upgrade ng dvd player ::)
j_albert22, Peace tayoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
hehehe bagay kc sa HK130 e tsaka wala naman masama magtanong at hapi pi naman ako sa NB9000 ko e kahit magdamagan ;D ;D ;D
pre bagay na bagay nga yan sa 130 mo.... bili na... :)
sir magkano kaya ito??
Sorry I wasnt able to ask yesterday. You may call Archi Audio for the exact price.
Nico @ 811-6715
pre meron yan.. alam ko nagtatabi ka e.. hehehe nweis called sir nico and the cash price for the dvd22 is 11,700... pre murang mura.. ;D :D11700 ang price sa spectra
s2kov,
OO nga miss ko na rin tsk tsk tsk.. bakit kasi nakilala pa kita AUDIOOOOO...
Hehehe.... ;D ;D ;D Ganyan tlaga kung anu'ng nasimulan babalik-balikan....
Ahahahahaha!!!!! ;D ;D ;D "anu'ng nasimulan babalik-balikan"..... Bwahahahahaha!!!! Bato-bato sa langit ang tamaan huwag umiyak....este magalit! ;D ;D My "Precious" >:D >:D
s2kov,
OO nga miss ko na rin tsk tsk tsk.. bakit kasi nakilala pa kita AUDIOOOOO...
pwede naman kayo magkita ulit eh >:D madali ako kausap ;D
Anyone familiar with the HK AVR 630. Its rated at 75w X 7. Kinda weak for a high current top of the line amplifier but most people say that HK undervalues its ratings. Its this 75w continuous power output with all channels driven? What do you guys think about this when paired with B&W series 600 S3 speakers for 70% HT / 30% Music use vs. a Yamaha 1400 or Onkyo 701?
75w for hk is like 120w for other receivers. read a review once comparing top end receivers. the hk was rated 110wpc but was tested to crank out more than 140wpc while a denon, rated 140wpc was only able to crank 110+wpc. hk receivers are rated very conservativly. my hk2550 is only rated 45wpc but ive never let the volume go past -10db, with +10db as max. ive a friend who owns an onkyo 600 and when he watches movies, he maxes out the volume with all channels set to +10 and yet its not loud enough. and yet the onkyo 600 is rated 100wpc. although i gotta admit onkyo sounds great in stereo. ;D ;D
number1,
i have to agree with you. monitor audios bronze speakers ARE hard to drive. same league as the wharf diamonds.
75w for hk is like 120w for other receivers. read a review once comparing top end receivers. the hk was rated 110wpc but was tested to crank out more than 140wpc while a denon, rated 140wpc was only able to crank 110+wpc. hk receivers are rated very conservativly. my hk2550 is only rated 45wpc but ive never let the volume go past -10db, with +10db as max. ive a friend who owns an onkyo 600 and when he watches movies, he maxes out the volume with all channels set to +10 and yet its not loud enough. and yet the onkyo 600 is rated 100wpc. although i gotta admit onkyo sounds great in stereo. ;D ;D
ok talaga dito ah, bilis sumagot ng mga tao. thanks for the help. i ruled out Yamaha already. left with Onkyo and HK but leaning towards HK. Just no THX certification on it but I guess it just didnt have itself certified.
How about the movie you're gonna watch, does it have to have THX cert. on it too? ???
yeah, but I mean... not every DVD out there is THX certified, I guess that means there's really no point in insisting THX certification, unless "everything" is THX certified in your HT, right? ;D
ok talaga dito ah, bilis sumagot ng mga tao. thanks for the help. i ruled out Yamaha already. left with Onkyo and HK but leaning towards HK. Just no THX certification on it but I guess it just didnt have itself certified.
Nope, not the new ones at least
someone told me that although the HKs have lower wattage that when demoed with a comparable receiver like Onkyo or Yamaha or denon with a higher wattage the HKs produce a louder sound. Anyone tried this?
someone told me that although the HKs have lower wattage that when demoed with a comparable receiver like Onkyo or Yamaha or denon with a higher wattage the HKs produce a louder sound. Anyone tried this?
someone told me that although the HKs have lower wattage that when demoed with a comparable receiver like Onkyo or Yamaha or Denon with a higher wattage the HKs produce a louder sound. Anyone tried this?
HKs like NADs and Rotels are conservatively rated. Onkyo, Yamaha, Pioneer, Denon are not, with some exceptions. Also, HKs are high current amps that can rise to the occasion when peak music signals demand.
The Rotel RA-02 rated @40wpc is much louder than the NAD C320BEE rated @50wpc. Both amps are rated with ALL CHANNELS DRIVEN simultaneously, over the FULL frequency bandwidth (20Hz - 20kHz) at 8 ohms resistive load.
;D
pilsen,
Hk sound is not just louder but warm and controlled sound..
Against a NAD T762, how would the HK630 compare this time?
Thanks, i'll probably do that but where in Manila can you find a place that carries both NAD & HK plus B&Ws?
FYI:
Thank you for contacting Harman Audio.
In reference to your inquiry, the AVR 630 does not feature video up conversion or DPLIIx processing.
The only model that will feature video up conversion would be the AVR 7300 when it is released.
Down the road you may see an available DPLIIx upgrade for the AVR 630 but this would not be for at least another 3 months.
Thanks guys, I finally bought the receiver an HK AVR 630. I can't wait for it to get here, should be here by the end of the month.
Do any of you guys who own this receiver have the 7.1 speaker setup, making use of all the channels for HT?
so would the DPR receivers sound the same and have that warm sound HK is known for?for the DPR, digital input digital output
so would the DPR receivers sound the same and have that warm sound HK is known for?from what i read from other forums, they sound the same except that the analog types have more power.
I see a lot of posts on the Hk 4550 and 5550 but I've never seen that receiver, its not on the website either. Is that an Asian model?
guys im planning to buy a hk 130, is this ok? and nakita ko sa specs niya is 45 watts into 8 ohms l. ok lang ba to use 6 ohms speakers w this?eventhough mababa ang watts nya super lakas nyan even 6 ohms ang speaker mo kaya pa yan
guys im planning to buy a hk 130, is this ok? and nakita ko sa specs niya is 45 watts into 8 ohms l. ok lang ba to use 6 ohms speakers w this?
am browsing as well for avr's and i bumped into these helpful sites. pls access www.harmanaudio.com or www.harmankardon.com
specs of every hk products are within and you could compare...enjoi
guys im planning to buy a hk 130, is this ok? and nakita ko sa specs niya is 45 watts into 8 ohms l. ok lang ba to use 6 ohms speakers w this?
Anyone out there who can help me please?
I have a HK 5550 receiver and have been trying to make the necessary adjustments as recommended my the masters here at PDVD but when I see it on the TV screen it scrolls like it is in PAL system. ??? I have been trying to find a solution in the manual but can't find any. Or maybe I missed something out.
Please help salamat!
Anyone out there who can help me please?
I have a HK 5550 receiver and have been trying to make the necessary adjustments as recommended my the masters here at PDVD but when I see it on the TV screen it scrolls like it is in PAL system. ??? I have been trying to find a solution in the manual but can't find any. Or maybe I missed something out.
Please help salamat!
Huling hirit... Isn't there any way to switch the signal to NTSC? ;)
Ok sir thank you will try to find a Multi-system monitor, one thing lang is if I feel the sound is not right I have no way of experimenting and getting to the right settings that I am happy with. :(. My PC does not have the video input you mentioned sir, but will keep that in mind when I have my PC done. With your recommendation I guess the PC has no problems with the PAL signal then I can check and change the setting anytime I want. It will come in handy pala sir.
:( :( :(
I'm not an HK owner, but PAL is the only system available, hehhehe you wouldn't come to ask that question if there is such right?
Yes, since most (if not ALL) PC monitors are multi-system.
Oo nga sir Akyat, can we do away with the OSD and sa LCD na lang in this case? Hmmmm. I better check the manual again.
sir tanong ko lang kung paanong connection ang ginawa mo kung di multi system ang TV mo, you can connect the video out of your DVD directly to your TV and let your DVD set your in NTSC or Pal don't use the video out of your harman para di mag scroll down.. try this baka makatulong kesa bumili ka nang bagong TV ;)
Strange, the very first thing Jim of Spectra tells you about the HK AVR receiver is how to make the OSD to NTSC using the remote. And reminds you the setting will remain even in standby more, but onced powered off, it resets to PAL.
Press AVR then Press OSD on the remote for at least 4 secs. I think
So are you saying this won't work on your HK AVR? Should we really care if Spectra's Jim "knows" more than Beyond Innovation's Technicians?
american are models 130-630, compatible with ntsc..
I wrote to Harman/Kardon Customer Support about AVR4000 OnScreenDisplay topic:
my friend bought the AVR4000 but we cannot use the On-Screen-Display
because it keeps on PalSecam Display when using only an NTSC TV.
Is there any buttons or reset combination to make this OSD be in NTSC signal?
thanx a lot.
And then their reply:
There is unfortunately no remedy for the problem that you have described.
The avr4000 that your friend has is a European model. The on screen display is thus encoded in PAL.
There is a US version of the avr4000 which is designed to be compatible with NTSC tvs. There is no possibility to alter the OSD on a particular model.
Yours Sincerely,
Kevin Finnerty
Customer Support.
HCI
AVR4000 = European Model
AVR310 = American Model
My AVR330 is by default PAL, and 220V too. So x30 series aren't all american models.
how much is a Harman Kardon AVR 230
HOW MUSH IS AN Harman kKardon DVD31there is still no dvd 31 in the market it is only dvd25 available in the market
it can be changed to NTSC when you press the osd button and then holding the volume control botton for about 5 second but when you turn off the main power and turn it on again it will return to its original setting PAL
My AVR330 is by default PAL, and 220V too. So x30 series aren't all american models.
there is still no dvd 31 in the market it is only dvd25 available in the market
it is pixel by pixel, progressive
AVR 7300 is out already 110wx7 built in video upconversion. The AVR 7300 is using the Faroujda 2301 chip. Basically it will upconvert composite, S-video and component video to 480P. HK kas provided a profile page for each input as the Faroujda has many parts and its setup varies depending upon signal. For example, if the source is a VCR there is a Film Edit mode. Also some test patterns are included. Oh and it has the new prologic IIx among other things.
sorry my mistake its 22 alright
DVD 22 Already available
sir tanong ko lang kung paanong connection ang ginawa mo kung di multi system ang TV mo, you can connect the video out of your DVD directly to your TV and let your DVD set your in NTSC or Pal don't use the video out of your harman para di mag scroll down.. try this baka makatulong kesa bumili ka nang bagong TV ;)
I know its a MAJOR incovenience to have the osd in pal, esp. if your t.v. is only ntsc. Based on my experience, it wasn't that bad. I managed to adjust the sepaker levels, source selection, channel inputs, etc. (in other words, I was able to make the HK work 90% of the time just using the front display.) The manual was thoughtfully created with screenshots of the osd and even manages to even indicate the number times you have to press scroll button to reach a certain menu. :)
All in all its not that bad for me.
Strange, the very first thing Jim of Spectra tells you about the HK AVR receiver is how to make the OSD to NTSC using the remote. And reminds you the setting will remain even in standby more, but onced powered off, it resets to PAL.
Press AVR then Press OSD on the remote for at least 4 secs. I think
it can be changed to NTSC when you press the osd button and then holding the volume control botton for about 5 second but when you turn off the main power and turn it on again it will return to its original setting PAL
Rivalz,
If you can work with the conversion and be able to view the OSD in NTSC format, good then and I STAND corrected.
Hopefully, there are settings to do so. Good luck.
Sir, tanong lang po. Is it normal for the AVR to get very hot to the point that you can't touch the top of the receiver? There is a built in fan but whnever it gets this hot I don't feel any air movement in the area of the built in fan. In fact mainit din dun sa fan. May the fan not be working properly? Or is the extreme temperature normal? Baka kasi sir masunog kasi it smells like hot plastic burning sir?
and dont put anything on top and sides of the receiver. I used to put my DVD player on top of the receiver, after some time, I have a fried dvd player.. hehehehhe
Hmmm, have you tried cooking popcorn on top of your reciever??? hehehe.
Salamat sir sa input mga . There is space naman sir for ventilation from the back and sides of the amp and there is nothing on top of the receiver. I wouldn't want my DVD player to be well done too ;D
So I should have this checked with the dealer then. Akala ko kasi sir e it was normal to be hot and the fan would kick in only at a certain high temp. But it seemed too hot sir.
In fact I put a blower on top of the AVR to suck the heat out ok naman the temp went down. Wondering bago naman tong receiver. Defective siguro yung fan? :(
Hehe OT: di pa naman, pero magpatuyo ng medyas nagawa ko na hehheeh joke ;D
Ha ha haven't tried to popcorn nor the drying of socks I prefer barbecue sarap sa beer. ;D
Can you FEEL or at least HEAR the difference between a 192/24....96/24....192/32 DACs
Can you FEEL or at least HEAR the difference between a 192/24....96/24....192/32 DACs
it will only work for the new models
Sir did this work for you? 8)
Sir was this effective? It seems there are two ways of doing this. Will doing this affect the AVR performance if wrong? Am bit scared in experimenting as I may not be able to put the settings back. :)
Noted sir JT will check tonight the amp. Coil? Yikes?! San yun?its just normal for the amp to be hot cause i tried it in the standby mode for the whole day and the fan didn't turned on
Hmmm that is a bad idea to put the socks and barbecue together I will remember that, but how bout the popcorn? ;D If this is successful the first oven-amp will be born! Whose patent will this be? Laking pera nito! ;D
its just normal for the amp to be hot cause i tried it in the standby mode for the whole day and the fan didn't turned on
You mean your amp gets hot even on standby mode? I have two amp which is on standby mode when Im not using and I dont have this problem.
You mean your amp gets hot even on standby mode? I have two amp which is on standby mode when Im not using and I dont have this problem.
it will only work for the new models
its just normal for the amp to be hot cause i tried it in the standby mode for the whole day and the fan didn't turned on
its just normal for the amp to be hot cause i tried it in the standby mode for the whole day and the fan didn't turned on
Sir I think you are right I tried both ways pressing the OSD for a few seconds as well as with the volume control. Bigo :(. It was woth the try though. Thanks for the inputs to try and solve this.
Sir, tanong lang po. Is it normal for the AVR to get very hot to the point that you can't touch the top of the receiver? There is a built in fan but whnever it gets this hot I don't feel any air movement in the area of the built in fan. In fact mainit din dun sa fan. May the fan not be working properly? Or is the extreme temperature normal? Baka kasi sir masunog kasi it smells like hot plastic burning sir?
Grabe talaga mag init ang Harman, though this is normal as long as ur amp has proper ventilation, pero to be sure i put a small fan on top of the receiver para worry free ehehehehe
Putting a fan on top of the AVR does help a lot and there is not much heat to the touch but you can feel that it is warm in the general area of the AVR. Init talaga but at least no more "barbecued plastic" smell.
rival,
sir normal lang yun burning smell since new pa lang unit mo.. :D
Ganun? Pag may naglagay ng plastic dun on purpose to sabotage me....Hindi na siya sisikatan ng araw!!! He he ala FPJ ;D How could they do that to my Preciouuuuussss!!! ;D
Thanks for the link sir JT will take a look at it.
J_albert,
Ah ok usually around 2 to 3 months wala na yun smell..
Wala na talaga yung smell o baka naman immune na ... hehehe.
But if the smell is normal, Harman Kardon company should have identified that immediately and has done something about it. I dont think this is acceptable, papaano pumasa sa QC?
rival,
sir normal lang yun burning smell since new pa lang unit mo.. :D
its about 31T
Yun nga ang masarap pag bago ang gear yung burnt smell! hhhhhmmmm amoy bago sarap! (addict ka ano!) ;D
Seriously folks I'm looking to upgrade my receiver how much would the avr 330 be worth in manila?(or a equivalent model) nakakita kasi ako worth 50k...don't know if that's a good price....thanks O0
if ure room is small.... 5.1 would suffice.. but i suggest you go with 230 or better yet if you have more money to spend.. go with 330.. its future/upgrade/sars proof.... ;D ;)
Guys, does the HK avr 130 have enough power to drive the diamond 8.4 together with the diamond center... il be using my Pyle bookshelves as surround... tnx......
wala bang papansin sakin??
JUST GOT MY NEW HARMAN KARDON AVR-130..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D i'm so gald i chose this baby rather than getting caught by the 6.1 7.1 hype.... i dont have enough money to get a quality 6.1 or 7.1 AVR thats why i chose the best entry level 5.1 AVR out there.......
here's my setup:
HARMAN KARDON AVR-130
front: wharfedale 302 Bookshelf (changed the bass drivers to PYLE ful range drivers)
center: wharfedale diamond 8c
rear: wharfedale diamond 8.1
no subwoofer yet....... i might not get one because i'm very pleased with the current bass output of my system.... maybe the PYLE found a perfect avr for her...hehehhe
i'm a PROUD!! HARMAN owner.... ;D ;D ;D
I'm currently undecided on what receiver to buy.. i'm choosing between hk130 and 230.. worth it ba yung price difference if i get the 230? almost 7k din kasi yung difference sa price... sabi nila more watts and an additional 6th channel lang daw yung edge ng 230 sa 130...
settle f0r the 330, maliit lang difference nun sa 230 which is 7.1 na, i bought mine from mega acoustic space look for mark
congrats maozedong!
congrats maozedong!!
maybe you can give your personal review on the hk130... ;D i'm also interested in this model but i'm confused whether to get this or the 230
Congrats maozedong!! ;D Would be looking forward to your reviews on it. Does it also get very hot?
hans & france
Sir Congrats.. reminder break in period Hk mo so moderate volume muna.. hehehe
JUST GOT MY NEW HARMAN KARDON AVR-130..... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D i'm so gald i chose this baby rather than getting caught by the 6.1 7.1 hype.... i dont have enough money to get a quality 6.1 or 7.1 AVR thats why i chose the best entry level 5.1 AVR out there.......
here's my setup:
HARMAN KARDON AVR-130
front: wharfedale 302 Bookshelf (changed the bass drivers to PYLE ful range drivers)
center: wharfedale diamond 8c
rear: wharfedale diamond 8.1
no subwoofer yet....... i might not get one because i'm very pleased with the current bass output of my system.... maybe the PYLE found a perfect avr for her...hehehhe
i'm a PROUD!! HARMAN owner.... ;D ;D ;D
sir magkano score mo sa 130 at saan mo din nabili? thanks
Good combination ba talaga ang HK and Warfedale? Can anyone give some price list of the speaker and AVR, Thanks.
I agree, Im using 8.1, 8.3 and Diamond 8 center for my harman :)
naks yan ang bagong 8.1 ni courage gagamitin daw nyang fronts ;D
I agree, Im using 8.1, 8.3 and Diamond 8 center for my harman :)
Thanks sa reply sir, ask ko din what cable gamit mo to connect your AVR and speakers.
How come puro high end HK models lang ang makikita sa mga review magazines or sa mga sites. Anybody who knows any link for HK reviews.
thanks for your replies guys ...
isa pang tanong kung pwede ....
how often mo bang kailangan mag calibrate ?
kasi i'm comparing AVRs and other brands have those Automatic Calibration systems
i think the 330 also has it and the mic or detector is embedded in the remote ? tama ba ?
while other brands come with optional mics that you need to connect to perform the automatic calibration .
anyway back to my original question .... do you really need the automatic calibration ? how often do you need to perform the calibration or when do you need to recalibrate ? are the results better compared to manual calibration wherein you just input the distance from speakers to listening spot ?
thanks again for your replies
you calibrate when:
1. you move the speakers
2. you move furniture in the room
3. when you change cables
4. you change speakers
5. after 2 weeks (when breaking in new equipment)
hope this helps
hello,
I'm planning to get an HK (AVR 230). Tanong ko lang kung saan pinakamagandang kumuha nito? I've seen yung AV Store thead pero parang di complete yung list. Would appreciate any information about HK distributors and stores in Manila.
BTW, would also appreciate any comments you have on the 230. I was initially just planning to get the 130 (just starting on HT) but it was lacking the auto-calibration and on-screen display, aside from being 1 channel and 5watts less. Would you consider the price difference justifiable to get the 230?
Thanks.
hello,
I'm planning to get an HK (AVR 230). Tanong ko lang kung saan pinakamagandang kumuha nito? I've seen yung AV Store thead pero parang di complete yung list. Would appreciate any information about HK distributors and stores in Manila.
BTW, would also appreciate any comments you have on the 230. I was initially just planning to get the 130 (just starting on HT) but it was lacking the auto-calibration and on-screen display, aside from being 1 channel and 5watts less. Would you consider the price difference justifiable to get the 230?
Thanks.
hello,
I'm planning to get an HK (AVR 230). Tanong ko lang kung saan pinakamagandang kumuha nito? I've seen yung AV Store thead pero parang di complete yung list. Would appreciate any information about HK distributors and stores in Manila.
BTW, would also appreciate any comments you have on the 230. I was initially just planning to get the 130 (just starting on HT) but it was lacking the auto-calibration and on-screen display, aside from being 1 channel and 5watts less. Would you consider the price difference justifiable to get the 230?
Thanks.
try contacting s2kov or iceman90a for hardly used HK5500's ;D ;D
try contacting s2kov or iceman90a for hardly used HK5500's ;D ;D
try contacting s2kov or iceman90a for hardly used HK5500's ;D ;D
Bro if you have the budget get the higher or mid models btw what speakers you plan to use??
Stores... Architectural Audio look for Nico / Epoy sila owner very accomodating.. or Spectra look for JIm mabait yan..
Anong model number noong mid level AVRs nila? For speakers, wala pa definite. Narinig ko na yung pair ng AVR330 with Acoustic Energy (Evo 1) sa Architectural Audio at okay yun. Tingnan ko kung ano pa pwede.
Salamat. Looking for good deals on the AVR ngayon. It seems mas okay yung sa Spectra kasi parang me promo sila ngayon (or tapos na).
Entry level:
130 - Basic 5.1, 45 wpc
230 - 6.1, pre-outs to support 7.1, 50 wpc
Mid level:
330 - 7.1, pre-outs, muti-zone, 55 wpc
430 - 7.1, pre-outs, multizone, high current, A-BUS Ready®; RS-232, 65 wpc
High-end:
630 - 7.1, pre-outs, multizone, HDCD, super high current, A-BUS Ready®; RS-232, 75 wpc
7300 - 7.1, pre-outs, multizone, HDCD, super high current, A-BUS Ready®; RS-232, video receiver (DCDi video chip), 110 wpc
Hi Philander,
Is the 7300 already available in Manila ? If so , what shop has it ?
thanks,
i want a heart-pumping home video viewing O0
Hi nadare,
When you choose the AVR you must have in mind your intended set up if either 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1. I think the 330 is 6.1. Hence is capable of driving "6" speakers and ".1" one sub woofer which is enough. A 5.1 set up is already okay and if you are happy with it then this is good as this is already a complete set-up. In fact some people only use 2.1 and they are equally happy.
But you may also consider the future where new material may develop using the 6.1 and 7.1 formats so to be safe for the future you may consider going higher than 5.1. But then again if you are satisfied with this then there is no problem it is just that you may avoid the added expense for a new receiver if you feel the need for the upgrade.
As for the speakers, it is best that you invest in good speakers as these will last you for quite some time as you may be changing receivers due to new formats and still keep your speakers unless you have the itch to change them for your personal preference. For kinds of speakers there are a lot of things to consider such as your room size as well as your listening preference and budget. It is very much recommended here to audition, audition, audition and get the speakers that sound good for you. Its part of the fun in this hobby.
Just my humble contribution.
Happy hunting! ;D
budget will be around 120kphp (the lower the better ^_^)
budget will be around 120kphp (the lower the better ^_^)
guys, im building an ht setup (n00b ika nga ;D) and HK seems to be reputable, for an entry lvl setup, ayon sa thread nato, avr330 seems to be a good choice. well, yun pa lang ang alam ko sa HT ang receiver. hehehe.. what other things i should know?? bout the speakers?? how many?? subs?? im just an HT kid yet ::)
i want a heart-pumping home video viewing O0
oh great, im starting to feel the excitement of auditioning ^_^ O0u can audition at spectra parksquare 1 they have a lot of harman kardon there
HK5500 & Monitor Audio B4 for 45,000
all you need is a center, surrounds and a sub ;D
pm me or sms 0917 5003698
ps - sama na pala natin Rel sub = total of P 73,000
that leaves you 47,000 for a center and surrounds... which should cost only 20k at most ;)
lagyan mo kc nang discount para convincing ;D ;D ;D
pag nagpresyo ka kasi ng mura, maqu-question pa quality ng binebenta mo... mas maganda kung makita at madinig muna ng interesado bago mag tawaran ;)
im interested in the entry level avr of HK anong model po ba yun at magkano? tnx!!!!!
im interested in the entry level avr of HK anong model po ba yun at magkano? tnx!!!!!
tnx! yung 230 magkano po ba sya ngayon?below 25T for the 130 according to jim is out of stock
below 25T for the 130 according to jim is out of stock
below 25T for the 130 according to jim is out of stock
mga sir, how about yung 330, magkano na kaya ito ngayon?around 30T maybe
mabili kc tapos ganda pa performance sulit pa sa budget kaya lagi ubos ;D ;D ;D ;D kaya tiyak yan pag nagkaroon mataas uli price nyan ;D ;D ;D
before I dig the answer in the manual, what does switched and unswitched means at the back of my HK AVR330 (power socket)? My guess is it has something to do with which socket has power if the unit is on or off, but I'm not really sure....
before I dig the answer in the manual, what does switched and unswitched means at the back of my HK AVR330 (power socket)? My guess is it has something to do with which socket has power if the unit is on or off, but I'm not really sure....
Hi Guys,
I got my HK 230 early August and very happy with it! The 230 is currently connected to just 2 speakers (for now) until I build-up my system. Just some questions on the 230 and the HK AVR in general.
1. When you watch DVD or movies, what is the best setting for sound presentation? Dolby, DTS Surround, DST Neo 6, Logic 7, Stereo, VMax, etc. considering there is only 2 speakers available for now.
2. When you just want to play CD or music, what is the best setting?
3. Will it be a problem if you only have 2 speakers connected (front left/right) while the setting (Dolby, DTS Surround, DST Neo 6, Logic 7, Stereo, VMax, etc.) is optimized for more than just the front speakers (multiple channel) play? Will the rears and other channels be damage if no speaker is connected?
4. I'm still not sure when the AVR or speakers will be damaged? For example, the 230 is rated 45 watts per channel at 8 ohms? and the speakers I'm using are rated 40 watts 4 ohms. Is there any danger here and what should I avoid.
Thanks in advance for your help.
First Congrats with your HK hehehe former HK owner din po..
1, Usually AVR follow the format of the DVD disc if you connected them in digital like if the DVD disc audio is DD then your HK will automatically switch to Dolby and cannot use the DSP.
2. Same as above the HK will follow the DVD disc audio.. but if you connected your DVD player via analog ( RCA ) then you can use the DSP...... using 2 speakers well i try Vmax..
3. CD hmmm connect your DVD or CD player thru analog ( RCA ) for better... not sure if its better kasi if your using DVD then i would rather connect them digital so i'll hear the HK DAC while if you have a separate Cd player then Analog will be better since your using the Cd player DAC naman we know the Cd player sound better than DVD in 2 channels..
4. Regards to AVR and Speaker match impedance and watts.. Rule is DO NOT OVERDRIVE THEM BOTH.. meaning hehehehe basta moderate to loud levels are fine and give enough space for the HK's vent.. hehehe ( btw have a combo AMP 25watts + 200 watts speaker and no problem naman )..
Now depend on your preference on music and level you can just experiment..
Hope this helps.. happy listening.. ;D ;D
First Congrats with your HK hehehe former HK owner din po..
1, Usually AVR follow the format of the DVD disc if you connected them in digital like if the DVD disc audio is DD then your HK will automatically switch to Dolby and cannot use the DSP.
2. Same as above the HK will follow the DVD disc audio.. but if you connected your DVD player via analog ( RCA ) then you can use the DSP...... using 2 speakers well i try Vmax..
3. CD hmmm connect your DVD or CD player thru analog ( RCA ) for better... not sure if its better kasi if your using DVD then i would rather connect them digital so i'll hear the HK DAC while if you have a separate Cd player then Analog will be better since your using the Cd player DAC naman we know the Cd player sound better than DVD in 2 channels..
4. Regards to AVR and Speaker match impedance and watts.. Rule is DO NOT OVERDRIVE THEM BOTH.. meaning hehehehe basta moderate to loud levels are fine and give enough space for the HK's vent.. hehehe ( btw have a combo AMP 25watts + 200 watts speaker and no problem naman )..
Now depend on your preference on music and level you can just experiment..
Hope this helps.. happy listening.. ;D ;D
is it ok to operate my HK5500 with no speakers connected to it? planning to use the preouts - going to a power amp, which will then drive the speakers...
ty
amen........................................sir kailan marerelease cerficate namin sa speaker placement 101................................ ;D
Hi Sir Hans,
Do you have any suggestion for the co-axial cable or I can just get any?
does anybody has an idea how these receiver cost? ???for the 130 its out of stock
hk130 --
hk230 --
hk330 --
thanks.. ;D
fierari,
Bro kaya pala di ka mapakali... audio na lang hehehehe.. nice meeting you sir..
mga sir ok ba ang HK AVR 330 sa movies? balak ko kasing bumili nito, gusto ko malaman kung pang movie or pang music itong receiver na ito. mag uumpisa pa lang kasi akong mag setup ng HT ko kaya kailangan ko ng suggestions nyo, open rin ako sa ibang brand. tia.very ok ang hk avr330
hi guys. i'm planning to buy a new avr by next week. i'm choosing between the HK AVR-130 and Onkyo TX-SR502. just wondering if the HK would also be a good match with my Bose 301's. need your opinions. thanks. :)hk avr130 is still out of stock go for the avr230(6.1) or the avr330(7.1)
salamat sir levi and zakkaz. speakers naman, ano bang ma i-suggest nyo na speakers na match para dito, entry to mid level para may idea na ako na i-audition... thanks againyou can try monitor audio or acoustic energy both products are very good
hk avr130 is still out of stock go for the avr230(6.1) or the avr330(7.1)
hk is much powerful than onkyo
you can try monitor audio or acoustic energy both products are very good
Is HK 330 compatible to a Mission speakers?its still depends on the model of the mission speakers
Meron ba sa inyo na me ganitong combo?
I've got M72i for fronts, M70 for surrounds and M7C1 for center. Currently hooked to a Denon 1804...
Will HK 330 be okay for my current speakers?
tnx...
I've got M72i for fronts, M70 for surrounds and M7C1 for center. Currently hooked to a Denon 1804...
Will HK 330 be okay for my current speakers?
tnx...
im planning to buy the wharfedale diamond 8 series, which is a better AVR for this set of speakers, the Yamaha 440 or the HK 130 for both Audio and video.
i heard that the diamonds needs power to get the quality of the speakers, i know HK130 is good but it is only 55w/ch while the Yammy 440 is 75W/ch??? ??? which is which ???
any inputs...
thanks
im planning to buy the wharfedale diamond 8 series, which is a better AVR for this set of speakers, the Yamaha 440 or the HK 130 for both Audio and video.yamaha is good for movies
i heard that the diamonds needs power to get the quality of the speakers, i know HK130 is good but it is only 55w/ch while the Yammy 440 is 75W/ch??? ??? which is which ???
any inputs...
thanks
im planning to buy the wharfedale diamond 8 series, which is a better AVR for this set of speakers, the Yamaha 440 or the HK 130 for both Audio and video.why not trying other models of yamaha avr cause the 440 is previous models
i heard that the diamonds needs power to get the quality of the speakers, i know HK130 is good but it is only 55w/ch while the Yammy 440 is 75W/ch??? ??? which is which ???
any inputs...
thanks
Am also new setting up HT, would BW602 S3 be a match too wid HK330?
you can try monitor audio or acoustic energy both products are very good
Am also new setting up HT, would BW602 S3 be a match too wid HK330?
Thanks in advance
roger
i know that the hk130 is still out stock n the models only available are 230 (6.1) 330,430,630 (7.1)
i've read on the spec sheet of both avr230 & avr 330 that when idle, it consumes 118W and 890W maximum (6 and 7 channels driven respectively). Noticed ko lang na sobrang lakas kumain ng kuryente ang HK. Is the 890W constant regardless of the volume level? AVR330 is 7.1. Papaano ang pag setup nya if u only have a 6.1 speaker setup?
Moreover, we know that price of hk is quite expensive, is it really worth it considering you pay higher to get the AVR and you'll be paying more for your electric bill?
Thanks in advance for any answers you can offer me.
Agree. You can try also Usher and B&W
so how much does these HK's worth, somebody kind enough to post its prices. Thanksit depends for the avr130 below 19T (5.1), avr230 around 25T, avr330 29+
thanks mk and ariel.
so paano ang diskarte ng connection pag ang speaker mo is 6.1 setup sa avr330 which is a 7.1 avr (the problem i'm foreseeing is 2 ang back surround ng connectors niya, sa 6.1 speaker setup isa lang ang back surround)?
regarding the AVR230, anyone care to express their views about this post excerpt i found at audioreview.com:
"Here is the major shortcoming: At volume settings above -15Db, the receiver powers off at the presence of extreme low frequencies. Here is how I found it:
I get the EpisodeII: and place it in the DVD: The first scene -even before the movie starts- is the THX certification animation with the rain effect and then the glass shattering. Great I say, this must sound wonderful at high volume. As my wife and son is out this Sunday, I turn the volume all the up to +1Db (max:+10) and lean back to enjoy. I can hear every single raindrop falling, followed by an amazing thunder that I feel deep in my chest. Great how amazing I think and wait for the rest of the amazing THX show. And then.... my AVR230 shuts off itself. I think to myself: OK some setting problem, I check the speaker settings--> nothing. The fronts are set to "large", that my Definite Technology BP10s are. Surrounds, center, sub, all settings are correct. I try it again and again, and the same thing happens. I lower the volume a little bit, again the same thing. Above volume level of -15Db, this insists. I think may be something unique to the THX animation, after all this is not a THX certified receiver. I put it on to the fabulous arena scene and pump up the volume to -5Db, and here we go again: off goes the receiver. "
wala bang ganitong experience sa AVR330? sorry for the questions, it's just that i'm choosing between AVR230 & AVR330.
thanks again.
i've read on the spec sheet of both avr230 & avr 330 that when idle, it consumes 118W and 890W maximum (6 and 7 channels driven respectively). Noticed ko lang na sobrang lakas kumain ng kuryente ang HK. Is the 890W constant regardless of the volume level? AVR330 is 7.1. Papaano ang pag setup nya if u only have a 6.1 speaker setup?
Moreover, we know that price of hk is quite expensive, is it really worth it considering you pay higher to get the AVR and you'll be paying more for your electric bill?
Thanks in advance for any answers you can offer me.
tsk tsk di kaya lemon ang 230 nya?
what's the difference between hk130 and hk3550?
what i know is hk130 is 45wpc while hk3550 is 65wpc. both are 5.1.
anybody care to help me decide on which avr to acquire...thanks
guys need your help.
planning to buy avr and here are my options:
1. hk avr3550 (5.1, 65w)
2. hk avr130 (5.1, 45w)
3. yamaha rx-v440 (6.1, 75w)
4. denon avr-1604 (6.1, 110w)
5. onkyo tx-sr502 (6.1, 75w)
seems denon has higher wattage than the rest. i read somewhere that hk's wattage rating is quite conservative. how does it fair with denon's 110w, yamaha's 75w and onkyo's 75w?
if hk is indeed conservative in rating wattages, is hk's 65w comparable/better than denon's 110w?
This post by jacorb88 was made in the receiver thread but I've deliberatly moved my response from the receiver thread to this one, as it's conclusion has a more HK slant.
Before anything else, rather than invite flames out there from those with favourite brands and who may not agree with me entirely, let me just state that reciever or amplifer power by itself is not everything. For some like me, there are other considerations like THD, IM, noise floors, channel separation, slew rates, video features, digital processing features, remote user-friendliness, construction build, etc. etc. But I don't mind erring on the side of PLENTY. And CLEAN power. And certainly CONSERVATIVE power ratings that I can comfortably live with knowing I am getting what is promised on the power specs. At whatever volume levels. LISTENING and AUDITIONING are entirely another matter that the hobbyst must undertake to confirm aurally what those cold numbers on the specsheet mean. And use his ears and his VALUE judgement to make his final decision. Afterall, this hobby is about personal subjective perceptions that uphold the uniqueness of an individual's values, taste, bias and preferrences. And my conclusions and observations below are based purely on those cold specsheets using my own VALUE perceptions, learning and experience.
Harman Kardon
I had some difficulty looking at some of the models you indicated on the net. The HK3550 is apparently an older model as it is no longer in the HK website. Though I found a good descriptive narrative and spec at this site:
http://www.peats.ie/cgi-bin/shop/db.cgi?view=1&id=6462&type=6&path=10x10_4
Is this the one:
HK3550, 5.1 receiver
(http://www.peats.ie/img/com_A/AVR3550.jpg)
60W x 5 Into 8 Ohms, 20Hz – 20kHz at <0.07% THD,
With All Channels Driven Simultaneously
As an older unit, this apparently has none of the digital features of more recent receivers, like DD-EX, DTS-NEO, DTS24/96, DPL IIx. But you can still have DPLII and DTS/DD. The site is silent on the electrical power consumption. Gleaning from the fact that it is rated with ALL chanels driven, and if their newer products like the AVR130 is any indication, where the summed output power for all channels (225W) is less than half of its maximum power consumption (540W), I can say with some conviction that this model has a conservative power rating feature that I'd expect from a receiver that values an equal playing field with similarly rated gears in the market.
Denon 1705
I have no such luck with the Denon 1604 and the only receiver I found closest with the same 110w power rating you indicated is the Denon 1705. Perhaps that is again an older but equivalent model. The pdf product spec is here
http://www.usa.denon.com/catalog/pdfs/AVR1705.pdf
This model does support all the new sound formats in 6.1 channels. Perhaps the 1604 doesn't. The power rating is:
75W x 6 (8ohms, 20hz - 20khz, 0.08% THD)
Electrical power consumption: 4A at 120VAC (computed at 480watts)
The spec is totally silent on whether this is 2 or ALL channels driven. IT would seem to me that this was measured individually, one channel at a time. And if you consider that no receiver can output more than what it took in, plus the fact that no amp is 100% efficient as it dissipates heat that can consume as much power as what it gives out, its 480 watt power consumption does not square nicely with the claimed total 450W (6x75watts) of output + a sufficient amount for heat dissipation.
But if you don't listen at or near such levels, this may not matter much. Comfortable listening levels in the 60db to 75db regions in a small room will hardly require more than 5-8 watts per channel.
Just by looking at the specs, I would say that the HK's 60wpc and the Denon's 75wpc claims would yield about the same sound SPLs. I personally do not believe in the Denon claims for this model. The real power with all channels driven could very well be even less than what the HK has. The Denon, afterall, consumes less electricity, so I can't see how it can deliver more than what the HK with a higher electric consumption, can. And I wouldn't factor in efficiency here, class AB amps have about the same efficiencies across the board. The HK I believe can drive 4-ohm loads while the Denon has a caution against going below 6 ohms. So with all things equal, based purely on power specs, this HK model has the edge for me. But other considerations should be weighed in as well. And it's entirely up to you to decide based on what features you value the most. The Denon is 6.1, the HK is only 5.1. So I can further surmise that even if they both had the same power consumption, the Denon is spreading it thinly over more channels. Your VALUE perceptions will decide.
I did not proceed with the other brands which, based on experience, are similarly power rated as the Denon. But here is an interesting site that do actual lab measurements on all channels driven, versus the power ratings as claimed by manufacturers. Most of the models are quite old, except the highlighted ones. But they should give you some indication on how much REAL power can be had versus CLAIMED power among various makes. The HK stands out as probably the only brand that CONSISTENTLY deliver a HIGHER REAL power with all channels driven than other mass commerical brands in that list. Though there is a smuttering of one or two models in some brands that do exceed manufacturer claims. Just examine and decide for yourself based on here:
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/3401/ratevsac.htm
avphile or anyone out there,
after reading avphile's reviews, i'm inclined to get HK entry level av receiver. my choice is HK130 or HK3550. i know 3550 is an older model but also supports DTS, DD, DPLII with Logic 7 and VMax like 130 does. Specs are almost the same EXCEPT 3550 is rated 60w (65w to one site - www.DigitalHomemag.com) while 130 is 45w. Also, 3550 has E-Z set measuring mic for quick speaker level matching which i think is a must for a novice hobbyist like me.
between the two which do you think is a better buy?
Also, would you happen to know if the Warranty of HK is universal? I'm heading off to US in a couple of days, I'm planning to get it there if the price is better.
One last thing, do you think matching HK3550/HK130 with Wharfedale diamond series (fronts) is a good choice? Do you think wharf will give justice to HK? Or is there a better front speakers out there within the same range as Wharf?
thanks much.
tanong lang po, san made or manufactured ba ang Harman/Kardon receivers and other products sold in the Philippines? Thanks for any info.
Made in china ata..
ako din magtatanong.... available na ba dito saten yung HK 670 or HK675 na integrated amp ng h/k?
how about between hk3550 and hk130?
avphile,
you've been a great help. hk130 is also 5.1. Now, this would be my last post to solicit advice on which model to get. Can't wait for my hk3550...=)
thanks so much everyone who helped me out here.
on my way to Speakers threads...=) .....see you!
HK Rocks
Tanong lang po.... Ano po bang ang equivalent ng Yamaha 650 sa Harman/Kardon? Advantage/ Disadvantages? Salamat po ng marami... :)if you want you can try visiting our exhibit area at edsa mall glorietta so that you'll be able to compare the yamaha and the harman kardon
actually mahirap hanapan ng equivalent ang yamaha n harman kardon kc magkaiba ang gawa nila
yamaha is based on japanese standard while harman is european and high current ang design
yamaha 650 is 7.1 135W
harman kardon 430 is 7.1 65W, 630 is 7.1 75W
guys,
musta ba performance ng hk330? magkano ba price nito ngayon?
thanks,
:)
sir,the price is around 46700 and were offering BPI 0% 6 months
magkano po yung hk430? until when po yung offer nyo na 0% interest? pwede din po ba citibank 0%?
thanks,
:)
Sir, tanong lang po hk PA 5800 power amp. 5channel at mag kano naman po.? thnxd available dto sa market
d available dto sa market
d available dto sa market
Yamaha YST-SW320
Wanna buy? :D :D :D
Anong kulay? Magkano?
P.S. i bought my yamaha yst-sw320 sa saudi arabia at 1600 SAR (around 23000)
saan ba mas mura? sa Riyadh o sa local distributor?
Uppps sorry pre! actually yung Pioneer Receiver lng ang gusto kong i upgrade eh! Medyo binandera ko lng HT setup ko ;) I am very much satisfied sa performance ng Jamo/yamaha setup ko specaily with my old Onkyo 501. Medyo mahina lng ang power nung onkyo kaya ko binili yung Pioneer vsx-d912.
Pero problema pa rin, hirap i convince si kumander (takusa ? ) heheheheh
Sorry ulit pre!
P.S. i bought my yamaha yst-sw320 sa saudi arabia at 1600 SAR (around 23000)
saan ba mas mura? sa Riyadh o sa local distributor?
Im also working sa middle east and sa pagkukumpara ko mas mura na ngayon ang mga Electronic appliances sa PI kesa dito. Dahil na rin sa pagbaba ng peso
thanks... kasi nagtataka ako dun sa nabasa kong isang magazine na may lalabas raw na firmware upgrade sa summer kaso kung next year pa yun ndi ba masayado ng matagal yun?yes nakausap ko rin c jim sa spectra at meron nang bagong amp don na may ganitong firmware di ko alam yong model kc masyadong mahal yung avr
medyo ot po :)it depends on u
ano ba ang bagay ng dvd player for hk330? hk dvd 22 or pioneer 676?
thanks,
:)
medyo ot po :)
ano ba ang bagay ng dvd player for hk330? hk dvd 22 or pioneer 676?
thanks,
:)
Bros!
Owner of H/K receiver also. new member but long time abang ang basa mode.
My system:
TV : forget it later na laang
Receiver : H/K AVR5500
Amplifier : H/K PA2000
Player : Pioneer DV275-S to replace w/ Marantz DV8400 (malapit na isang bigay ng allowance na laang)haaayy
Fronts : MS908 Declaration/Classic Series
Surrounds : all MS Declaration/Classic Series
Sub : MS907 Declaration/Classic Series & Velodyne CHT12
To follow pics.
Regards,
Welcome to PDVD, bassmgr, Nice set-up. Do you use the receiver's front pre-out to connect to your PA2000?
yes nakausap ko rin c jim sa spectra at meron nang bagong amp don na may ganitong firmware di ko alam yong model kc masyadong mahal yung avr
tanong lang po.if u want a better sound quality like a dedicated amp for cd try getting the nad integrated amp
match ba ang NAD CD-players C-521BEE sa hk330? can you list the cd players na maganda ang match sa hk330?
thanks,
:)
bassmgr,
How's the combination of MS and HK? warm ba on music?
tnx.
sir,
actually i already have an hk330. i'm just looking for a good cd player that has a good match sa hk330. ok kaya na match ang NAD for hk330?
thanks,
:)
question, anu-ano po ba ang mga model ng harman kardon? how much? thanks! ;Dif u want try to visit spectra @ parksquare 1 they have a lot of harman kardon models there
thanks for the info, sir av_phile1. btw, when you say new NAD CD players does this include NAD C-521BEE?its included and the 521bee is 5 star rating
thanks for the info, sir av_phile1. btw, when you say new NAD CD players does this include NAD C-521BEE?
sir, it's good to know that these NAD CD players are good match to HK. i'll check the NAD CD player thread to gather more info on this product. the C542 model really is better than the C521BEE considering it already support HDCD format. i guess i'll have to wait for the prices to lower a little bit so that, i can buy this C542. hopefully, there will a pre christmas sale on these model so that my budget will fit ;D.
thanks,
:)
Bassmgr,
Thanks bro.
Tama pala naririnig ko. malakas nga sumipa ang HK sa Sub kaya
you really need a big sub for it.
Tama ka din sa 908. Mahirap nga i-drive iyan. Kailangan high-powered amp
ang gamit mo. May passive sub ba naman eh.
Tanong lang to all HK owners:
What makes you decide to own a HK receiver in technical, aesthetic, and features point of view? Im just curious what others decision point.
HK are conservative in giving their ratings. HK can give you more power than what's written on their specs. Their receiver with power rating of 55w can perform better compared to a 120w receiver of other brands.
Bro thats my honest experience with my system.
Tanong lang to all HK owners:
What makes you decide to own a HK receiver in technical, aesthetic, and features point of view? Im just curious what others decision point.
thanks
San may pinakamurang AVR 230?
tnx.
San may pinakamurang AVR 230?
tnx.
ok naman and im satisfied with the performance yun nga lang it takes several months bago ako naconvince. the only regret is the subwoofer MS907 para kasing mawawasak sa presentation ng DTS in Hell Freezes Over ng The Eagles.
sa music superb especially sa conventional Audio CD material. actually in using my Velodyne CHT12 for DVD concerts only. suggest ko lang if you plan to have tower speakers with passive woofer like MS908, choose a receiver with minimum rating of 100W per channel with flexible bass management kasi MS908 is a power hunger speaker and full range of frequency responce. thats the reason why i posses HK PA2000. Im having a decease na nga to get AVR7300 buti na lang tagmais(poor) ako ngayon. For HK & MS, you dont even need a subwoofer for music application (of course using stereo materials only). in my system, kapag soundtrip ako with my rock music i dont use sub except for my metallica with michael kamen pangit ng recording low quality.
regards,
try going to spectra @ parksquare 1
bro, try architectural audio at greenbelt 1. i'm sure they can give you a very good price there. :)
Bassmgr,
Thanks bro.
Tama pala naririnig ko. malakas nga sumipa ang HK sa Sub kaya
you really need a big sub for it.
Tama ka din sa 908. Mahirap nga i-drive iyan. Kailangan high-powered amp
ang gamit mo. May passive sub ba naman eh.
any contack # for spectra? k=magkano kaya ang 230?
tnx mga bro...
any contack # for spectra? k=magkano kaya ang 230?8185493
tnx mga bro...
Bro Hk features are not as flashy compare to others but techincally it have hold its own and its conservative spec delivered the power and muscle when needed tsaka sound wise IMHO da best sya balance performer unlike other brands which are good in audio but lack the punch for HT or vice versa.
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
Pls help? ANONG BANG BIBILIHIN KO?
Thanks for the inputs bros, we have the same evaluation pala regarding HK. I agree with the conservative specs that HK commitment to their consumers. Power rating is really far from other brands in fact before I acquired my system I compared it with other big names in HT equipment the 75W of my AVR5500 is far from what others 120W claimed power rating. If you want to prove, try auditioning at spectra. In my case, Nino proved it to me nag set siya 3 receivers the other two was rated above 100WPC. In quality of sounds, they have the same considering that they belong to the same class and price level. HK and AVR-A both good in movie but in music both AVR A & B was far from HK and the power punch was noticeable especially at high volume level. Please note that the 3 AVRs were connected to the same speaker using the same cables/wire and the same setting. For me, what makes me decide to get HK is because they pioneered the high current amplification design and the fact that bass management is standard for their receiver even in the entry level (at least you have the options).
Rxv 650 or HK 230?
Pls help? ANONG BANG BIBILIHIN KO?
HK/?? All the Way!!! soon.... ;D
HK/UA ALL THE WAY!!!!! ;D ;D ;D
magkano ba ang hk avr630 (approx in pesos)? arigato :)try going to spectra @ parksquare 1 they carry harman amp
WAAAHHHH :'( :'( :'( MY HK 130 IS DEAD.....
Last sunday i-test ko sana yung Troy LE that i won nung EB but my HK 130 is not functioning when i turned it on yung main power switch lang but ayaw ma open naka standby lang.
To all HK users na experience nyo na ito before? Or I better contact the dealer and have it repaired?
Thanks. :'(
may ilaw ba standby switch? bka nde mo napindot yung standby switch.
Yes sir may ilaw po. Yung HK 130 po kasi may dalawang power switch isang main power switch at isa rin po sa power on button. After you push the main power mag standby mode sya muna tapos power on button para ma open yung unit. The problem is ayaw mag function nung power on button kaya hindi ko magamit.
Salamat sir.
Yes sir may ilaw po. Yung HK 130 po kasi may dalawang power switch isang main power switch at isa rin po sa power on button. After you push the main power mag standby mode sya muna tapos power on button para ma open yung unit. The problem is ayaw mag function nung power on button kaya hindi ko magamit.
Salamat sir.
What did you do with the unit before this thing happened? Was it still working before the EB?
Baka na stuck-up lang yung output relay contacts. Do you normally hear a clicking sound when you turn the power on from stand-by? Try unplugging from the main power outlet, then re-plug after a few minutes.
You may want to take out all the source interconnects to your receiver as well. Then turn it ON. If the receiver still won't turn on even without any speaker load or anything connected to it, then you have a problem. Service Center is next.
HK/UA All The Way!!! ;D ;D ;D
mag iba ka naman luma na yan "all the way" pang monitor lang yan >:D >:D >:D >:D
hehehe, mag-iisip nga ako ng bago... ;D
yan wala kang originality hehehehhehehe >:D >:D >:D
Mga Sir magkano na kaya HK-330 ngayon?
Hey odoypayl... mukhang nakabudget na 13th month natin ha ;D
I'm planning to "upgrade" to HK-130 also para H/k na rin AVR to match the DVD22 ;D
Any idea how much HK130 is? Nasa 17K nga ba?
Uy! Thanks cire2004! From experience masmura siguro ng kaunti sa Archi Audio... At least may idea na ako kung magkano... Thanks! ;D
Uy! Thanks cire2004! From experience masmura siguro ng kaunti sa Archi Audio... At least may idea na ako kung magkano... Thanks! ;D
may number ba kayo sa Arch Audio? ;)
Phone Number : 816-67-23
Telefax : 811-67-15
BTW, price ng HK 130 nila is P18.9K.
;D
can payment be done in 9 or 12 months? ::)
i'll be your takers >:D ;D
bili bili na >:D
btw, bat mo ibebenta hk230 mo sir?
:)
mcbry: the reason is i'll be leaving out of the country for a year (work-related). so i need to sell this baby.
garee: sorry di puwede installment ;D
the best way sir is to post that on the buy and sell section. im sure many will be interested on your baby. hk performs really great in ht as well as in music.
good luck.
:)
mcbry: the reason is i'll be leaving out of the country for a year (work-related). so i need to sell this baby.
garee: sorry di puwede installment ;D
Bakit nakalagay sa website ng harmankardon ang entry level receiver nila ay AVR 135 followed by 235 tapos 330 and so on na? Anong nangyari sa AVR 130 and 230? Kung pinalitan na sila, di ba dapat meron na silang complete line na ending sa 5?
bro nasa melbourne ako. titingnan ko lang sana kung mas mura dyan sa manila. ty
try going to spectra @ parksquare 1 they carry harman amp
nakita ko rin ito. un avr 135 ay 6.1 na while 7.1 naman yung 235. i changed the country from the default to phil, and lumabas yung 130 and 230. i guess diff models for diff countries.
sana me 135 din dito...
any knows the current prices of these models? ???
avr-130
avr-230
avr-330
any knows the current prices of these models? ???
avr-130
avr-230
avr-330
AVR130 = ?
AVR230 = 24+++
AVR330 = 29500
guys what does "protect" mean? may avr 230 shuts down after it says it.double check ur speaker cables cause most of the time the wires touch with each other n it will go to protect
guys what does "protect" mean? may avr 230 shuts down after it says it.
Need help here!
My avr-130 also shutdown and says "PROTECT" on the display. This only happened if I set the volume to -10 dB when watching a movie and only on the extreme sound of the movie like explosions. I'm using a B4-front/B-center/B2-surround. Is this normal to 130? Furthermore, I don't not have a fan to cool down the 130 when watching/listening at this volume level. Also, I just directly plugging in my 130 to 220 AC outlet. Don't have an AVR (Voltage regulator) at this moment.
Need help here!
My avr-130 also shutdown and says "PROTECT" on the display. This only happened if I set the volume to -10 dB when watching a movie and only on the extreme sound of the movie like explosions. I'm using a B4-front/B-center/B2-surround. Is this normal to 130? Furthermore, I don't not have a fan to cool down the 130 when watching/listening at this volume level. Also, I just directly plugging in my 130 to 220 AC outlet. Don't have an AVR (Voltage regulator) at this moment.
Thanks for all the inputs!
I've already found the problem. Fan lang pala kailangan to cooldown the 130.. ;D Just notice this problem when I did a movie marathon from morning to evening on 24th of dec. What causes the 130 to shutdown was the too much heat of the amp. I'm listening kasi at -5dB to -10dB volume level. Then later na nag-startt to shutdown the 130, nung gabi na... Huh! akala ko sira na 130 ko... ;D
imy average volume of watching movies is from -18db to -25 db, settings are fronts (L, R) is 0 while SR is +1 and SL is 0, nde pa ako nakakabili ng centre, and no plans of buying a sub...
Thanks for all the inputs!
I've already found the problem. Fan lang pala kailangan to cooldown the 130.. ;D Just notice this problem when I did a movie marathon from morning to evening on 24th of dec. What causes the 130 to shutdown was the too much heat of the amp. I'm listening kasi at -5dB to -10dB volume level. Then later na nag-startt to shutdown the 130, nung gabi na... Huh! akala ko sira na 130 ko... ;D
bro t_s_o_n_g, upgrade na sa hk330 para mas pwede mo ihataw yung ma's mo ;D >:D ;D
Too early to upgrade. Kakabili ko pala lang kasi ng 130 ko. About 2 months old palang... :-)
Too early to upgrade. Kakabili ko pala lang kasi ng 130 ko. About 2 months old palang... :-)
di naman na nakababad sa -5dB. Cguro an average of -10 to -12dB.... ;D Tsaka depende sa audio recording ng DVD. Meron kasing ibang DVD na mahina ang audio...
Tsong,
pag frequent shut off bring it to your dealer for check up.. :)
after long research and q&a from this thread, i just acquired my hk130. my decision had the inputs from avphile and other expert posters here. i also paired my hk with wharfedale 9.4 (fronts, cs).
di naman na nakababad sa -5dB. Cguro an average of -10 to -12dB.... ;D Tsaka depende sa audio recording ng DVD. Meron kasing ibang DVD na mahina ang audio...
pre sa laki ba naman ng woofer nyang bookshelf na floorstander mo e... talagang nde mo na kailangan ng sub.. ;D :D
after long research and q&a from this thread, i just acquired my hk130. my decision had the inputs from avphile and other expert posters here. i also paired my hk with wharfedale 9.4 (fronts, cs).
thank you so much guys!
Need help here!
My avr-130 also shutdown and says "PROTECT" on the display. This only happened if I set the volume to -10 dB when watching a movie and only on the extreme sound of the movie like explosions. I'm using a B4-front/B-center/B2-surround. Is this normal to 130? Furthermore, I don't not have a fan to cool down the 130 when watching/listening at this volume level. Also, I just directly plugging in my 130 to 220 AC outlet. Don't have an AVR (Voltage regulator) at this moment.
did u guys see at asst buy n sell docritch selling his hk330 for 22T? why didnt i see that? dang! whoever got it,
grabe, ang swerte nya. sobrang mura!
did u guys see at asst buy n sell docritch selling his hk330 for 22T? why didnt i see that? dang! whoever got it,
grabe, ang swerte nya. sobrang mura!
bro t_s_o_n_g, you're very much welcome :)
hirap pag umabot ng -5dB baka batuhin na ako ng land lady namin ;D
bili kana kasi ng sub para hindi na kailangan umabot pa ng -5dB ang hk mo ;D >:D ;D
cheers! :)
i got my HK130 just recently. am still saving up for an active subwoofer. currently, i have passive subwoofer from a pioneer htib which i have as my first ht system. how do i connect the pioneer subs to my HK130? the pioneer subs (8 ohms, 75w) has speaker jacks only for +/- wires. thanks.
i got my HK130 just recently. am still saving up for an active subwoofer. currently, i have passive subwoofer from a pioneer htib which i have as my first ht system. how do i connect the pioneer subs to my HK130? the pioneer subs (8 ohms, 75w) has speaker jacks only for +/- wires. thanks.
In your case Bro Tsong, i believe its on Thermal Shutdown, try to improve receiver ventilation and add blower to cool it off. ;)
enjoy!
positive-noise. ;D ;D ;D
mga sirs, newbie Q po.try getting the new model of hk avr230 (6.1)
I am connsidering to buy a HK5500 whose specs says it's 6.1 . However, pag tinignan ko yung manual wala ako makita na spkr out connection for the rear center. So how will it work in 6.1 mode? Sa yammy po kasi talagang may dedicated output connection for the rear center speaker.
P.S. I intent to use either a coax or opt connection from my dvd player.
My question is, will there be any negative effect on my HK if i install a blower as exhaust mechanism?
thanks.
mga sirs, newbie Q po.
I am connsidering to buy a HK5500 whose specs says it's 6.1 . However, pag tinignan ko yung manual wala ako makita na spkr out connection for the rear center. So how will it work in 6.1 mode? Sa yammy po kasi talagang may dedicated output connection for the rear center speaker.
P.S. I intent to use either a coax or opt connection from my dvd player.
try getting the new model of hk avr230 (6.1)
sige na nga......hey guys I just bought Taggart's HK230. Will set it up this weekend yoooohooo!!! ;D 8)
sige na nga......hey guys I just bought Taggart's HK230. Will set it up this weekend yoooohooo!!! ;D 8)
wow congrats dude :) what's the rest of your setup?
paired with MS300 series po :)
pre anong sabi ni kumander? ;D for sure mag-eenjoy kayo dyan hehe. congrats!
cool lang sya, sabi ko kse nag swap lang tayo ng avr heheheh. ;D
mga guru, help naman please re HK230
Accdg to the specs...
Power Consumption: 118W idle, 890W max (6 Channels driven).
Is it safe to plug the unit sa existing Automatic Voltage Regulato (AVR) ko rated @ 1kW only, usually dito rin naka connect yung TV (170W) + yung DVD player (15W)? Or should I just plug the unit directly to the AC outlet na lang? Or do I need a higher rated AVR :-\
mga guru, help naman please re HK230
Accdg to the specs...
Power Consumption: 118W idle, 890W max (6 Channels driven).
Is it safe to plug the unit sa existing Automatic Voltage Regulato (AVR) ko rated @ 1kW only, usually dito rin naka connect yung TV (170W) + yung DVD player (15W)? Or should I just plug the unit directly to the AC outlet na lang? Or do I need a higher rated AVR :-\
tnx for the feedback mga sir.....
do I really need an AVR for the receiver? Or can I just plug it directly to the AC outlet.
bro d00dZ, base on your preferences 90/10 (ht/music) i suggest you go for Yamaha... tama si j_albert22 na kilala talaga ang Yamaha sa ht... and also, maganda din naman na match yung wharfedale mo sa Yamaha... if you prefer 50/50 (ht/music) then HK is the best choice.
enjoy,
:)
ok mga bosing....na setup ko na HK ko last Saturday. Very impressive.
1 Q lang (na naman ;))......I noticed while setting up na when using the OSD function ng remote, the display appears as rolling screen sa TV display. Its similar to what u see when ur playing a PAL source and ur TV is not multi system. I got rid of this problem by holding down the OSD key for 3 secs, tapos ok na yung display.
Kaso after turning the AVR off (totally removed from AC outlet) for 2-3 hrs, bumabalik sya sa dati pag press nung OSD button, rolling pic na naman. As in, I have to press and hold down the OSD key again para maging ok yung dispaly sa TV.
Is this a normal occurrence?
the OSD function is by default in PAL format.. hence you still need to use the workaround.. lucky for you the newer 30 series has this... mine is the older model and doesnt have this capabilility... enjoy and congrats on your HK..... ;)
just bought a while ago HK230 and HK DVD22 from spectra, got a good deal from Jim. :)
cant wait for the HK235 :P...im very excited with the HK combo! ;D
ill be using Mission m74i as main, m3c2 center, m3ds as surround.
im still thinking of an affordable but good for music & HT sub. i heard and felt the 10in Klipsche from spectra yesterday and i liked it.
OT: any other sub priced lower than the Klipsche(24k) that can match my gears?
hi! just need some help with my decision cuz im planning to buy a receiver....hk amp are designed high current so the signal going out is powerful rather than other amp
which has more features...the yamaha rxv 650 or HK230/330? which do you think is good for audio?
and the prices how much is the HK230/330? or the rxv650? which store can i get one of those with great discounts? thanks....
mas mahal nga...pero sulit naman ata to diba?
guys, ano yung features po ng 235???
thanks
guys, ano yung features po ng 235???
thanks
1 year old na pala HK330 ko... he he he Good thing 0 hassle all year long! Galing talaga ng Harman Kardon
Sounds like a lose connection somewhere where tapping solves the problem COuld be a relay switching problem. I would suggest you have the proper service center look at the unit.
How much can i sell my AVR130... it is in great condition.. it still has the plastic protection film.. it never went out of the entertainment cabinet.. had an external exhaust from the very first day of installation.. rarely used.. bought last june.. At P17.5K, will it be sellable?
hehehehe mukang me mag-a-upgrade na naman dito.... ;D
How much can i sell my AVR130... it is in great condition.. it still has the plastic protection film.. it never went out of the entertainment cabinet.. had an external exhaust from the very first day of installation.. rarely used.. bought last june.. At P17.5K, will it be sellable?
mga sirs, tanong ko lang...anong DAC's ng HK avr 130, 230, at 330? thanks..
bakit mas mahal ang HK sa yamaha?
mga sirs...bakit hindi 192 kHz/24 ang DAC ng harman kardon ? importante pa ba to?
mga sirs...bakit hindi 192 kHz/24 ang DAC ng harman kardon ? importante pa ba to?
Depends on the model. There's a Yamaha Z9 flagship receiver costing above 200T. I am not aware of any locally available HK flagship receiver that even remotely approaches this price tag.
330. 7.1 na. hintayin mong mag clearance sale ;D hopefully ;D
Hope na pag labas ng 135 series bumaba na ang 330. BTW, magkano na 330 ngayon?
ano ang good buy, HK 230 or 330 or wait for the coming model?
ano ang contact number at saan located ang architectural audio? Thanks
Hi guys,
My friend is going to buy a new Harman Kardon AVR for his dynaudio audience 72. Is HK a good match with dynaudio?
My friend is more into the HK for the looks. We both bought this 1080i DVD player in HongKong with a blue lit tray, bagay na bagay sa HK with its blue lit knobs & stuff. So now he wants a matching HK avr.
TIA :D.
from what i've read, the audience's are detailed. they should pair well w/ a warm HK.
the hk 330 is 7.1 and is around 30k. 25k can get you some wharfedales. visit spectra in park square 1 in makati. if you're not in a hurry getting a 7.1 set, you can try monitor audio's, acoustic energy's and usher's from architectural audio in greenbelt 1.
here's the pricelist from the spectra thread:
9.1-5500
9.2-7000
9.3-8200
9.4-9700
9.5-12500
9C-4500
9S-3800
the matching sub is 9k (sw150). pagkasyahin mo na lang yung 25k :)
try the ff: links.
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/allchannelsdriven.php
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/audioprinciples/amplifiers/receiverpower.php
Hi peeps! Comments naman on the HK AVR330. I read that there are audio drops (i,e, audio drop out/muting while switching modes) when scanning thru chapters in disks. How true is this and has there been a confirmed fix for this problem? Any other problems encountered with this model? Thanks.
I just got an AVR 230, and still getting familiar with it...but so far, I would say, "No Regrets!". 8)
some responses about the HK 330 (not sure if applicable to the other models too):
1. AVR "auto shuts down" if blast is too strong, with subs or even just 4 speakers connected. (i.e. bomb explosions in Incredibles and Terminator 3, etc.)
Welcome to pinoydvd La_Payag and welcome to the HK club also. Panalo yang HK 230 mo im using 130 and i may say no regrets din. ENJOY pre.
some responses about the HK 330 (not sure if applicable to the other models too):
1. AVR "auto shuts down" if blast is too strong, with subs or even just 4 speakers connected. (i.e. bomb explosions in Incredibles and Terminator 3, etc.)
some responses about the HK 330 (not sure if applicable to the other models too):
1. AVR "auto shuts down" if blast is too strong, with subs or even just 4 speakers connected. (i.e. bomb explosions in Incredibles and Terminator 3, etc.)
Welcome to pinoydvd La_Payag and welcome to the HK club also. Panalo yang HK 230 mo im using 130 and i may say no regrets din. ENJOY pre.
bumblebee:Just a thought and for your info. I was once been told by one of the staff of Beyond innovation's sister company in Megamall during my query on hk avr that there were hk products no model in particular were encountering this problem. It was realized and confirmed by the maker itself that there were lemon products . The problem was identified on the thermal chip circuitry of the avr. And was advised to return the unit and replace the said circuitry on their factory. For me, it was a though decision for the maker to make such revelation proving that they do value their customers .... Though I myself never confirmed it to them (Beyond Innovations) to be true, but few of my fellow hobbyist who were HK users and of course based on what I've read on other foreign forums, does sometimes make sense... ???
The fan is another issue, it never turns on even when the unit gets hot. Volume up to around -12db and just using 4 small Kefs.
kailan kaya lalabas ang mga bagong models dito ng HK.
i was told by the HK dealer sa megamall that the x35 series would possibly be release next month....abangan !!
Hey guys, what do you think?i think go for the 630 it got a higher watts than 335 and i think spectra has a promo of 630 at a lower price than before
If you were to choose between AVR 630 and AVR 335, if both are of the same price, which would you choose?
The 335 has an automatic room config like the Yamaha's YPAO, which I believe is important for me (and I personally prefer it too) because I have an irregular shaped room (one side has a wall and the other doesnt) and this (I believe) would help configure my room automatically.
I am using Mission M series speakers so I am not sure if the 630 might be more power than I need, but the reviews from the internet sound good. I am confused between the 2. TIA
To Bumblebee, Yes, may masama naman uli akong balak. >:D >:D >:D
i think go for the 630 it got a higher watts than 335 and i think spectra has a promo of 630 at a lower price than before
Recently I noticed everytime I turned it on, all my settings are gone. Each time I use it, have to set it back again. One time while I was watching, the volume suddenly went up w/o anybody touching the remote or the knob.
Greetings!
I have an HK AVR5500. Recently I noticed everytime I turned it on, all my settings are gone. Each time I use it, have to set it back again. One time while I was watching, the volume suddenly went up w/o anybody touching the remote or the knob.
Has anybody here experienced the same? My unit is 2 yrs old. Does anybody knows where is service center of HK?
Please help. Thanks in advance.
i think there's an internal battery that needs to be replaced. ganyan din sa 5500 ko (tsaka sa 3550 ng kaibigan ko) pag switch off, pero pag standby lang - ok naman nareretain yung settings
with regards dun sa volume going up - di ko pa naexperience yun
Hey guys, what do you think?
If you were to choose between AVR 630 and AVR 335, if both are of the same price, which would you choose?
The 335 has an automatic room config like the Yamaha's YPAO, which I believe is important for me because I have an irregular shaped room (one side has a wall and the other doesnt) and this (I believe) would help give me a much better sound. I personally prefer this feature and its the only reason why I considered the 335 despite the low price of the 630.
AVR 630 (75wpc x7) on the other hand, has 32 bit DSP as opposed to 24 bit for AVR 335. I am using Mission M series speakers so I am not sure if the 630 might be more power than I need, but the reviews from the internet sound good. I am confused between the 2.
TIA ;)
To Bumblebee, Yes, may masama naman uli akong balak. >:D >:D >:D
Hey guys, what do you think?
If you were to choose between AVR 630 and AVR 335, if both are of the same price, which would you choose?
The 335 has an automatic room config like the Yamaha's YPAO, which I believe is important for me because I have an irregular shaped room (one side has a wall and the other doesnt) and this (I believe) would help give me a much better sound. I personally prefer this feature and its the only reason why I considered the 335 despite the low price of the 630.
AVR 630 (75wpc x7) on the other hand, has 32 bit DSP as opposed to 24 bit for AVR 335. I am using Mission M series speakers so I am not sure if the 630 might be more power than I need, but the reviews from the internet sound good. I am confused between the 2.
TIA ;)
To Bumblebee, Yes, may masama naman uli akong balak. >:D >:D >:D
Thanks Zakkaz. AVR 630 is on sale in Canada, it will be around the same price as a 335, I still havent confirmed the prices yet. I will ask a friend to buy for me.if im not mistaken i think it went down below 50k
52k pa sa spectra, not in my budget. :)
I assume it has all the latest formats (i.e., dpl2x, etc.) so the only major advantage of the 335 would be the auto setup-calibration (but doesn't the 630 also have this?).
Parang kailan ko lang nabasa na naka-Yam450 ka, then upgraded to Yam650...now HK.
May galit po ata kayo sa pera?... hehehehehe...
Naku, nakonsyensya tuloy ako. Hehe. Di naman ako galit sa pera, actually kulang nga sa pera eh ;D.
But like I said in my old posts " I am a sucker for the word -SALE". I couldnt resist the SALE price of the Yam 650, now I cant resist the SALE of the HK 630.
Cheers bro :)
need help for my Harman Kardon AVR 20II - sa tuwing i-o-on ko, pumuputok yung fuse nya. anybody know what the problem is?
don
in one of the review on the avr 130 it says that...
if i plan on connecting component video sources to your to your theater system, i will have to do so directly as the avr 130 does not support component video switching.
what does this mean...thanks!
ok..medyo limited na choices ko. the HK 130 has been short listed. others being marantz sr4500 and yamaha 450/550meron
going back to the component video switching...
since i will connect the tv to the dvd player...tapos dvd to avr. does this mean the dvd player should be "turned-on" if i want to enhanced sound while watching cable TV? kasi parang bridge yung video source ko between the TV and AVR ???
sorry newbie po...
question...meron ba FM tuner ang avr 130
since i will connect the tv to the dvd player...tapos dvd to avr. does this mean the dvd player should be "turned-on" if i want to enhanced sound while watching cable TV? kasi parang bridge yung video source ko between the TV and AVR ???
Mga sir i need your help i just acquired an avr130 today,, i was using it for playing dvd's,,, concern ko is i have to reach the -15db volume pa before ako actually malakasan sa volume,,, i don't know if it's just me or baka may defect ang nakuha kong unit,,, i think i just expect more power at that volumes,,, by the way i am using Bose speakers po,,, front levels ko po under DTS mode is +5db and +8db sa Center....
One more thing po is my amp does not get hot easily i could finish a whole movie pero kapag hahawakan ko na yung top cover hindi siya masyado mainit (warm lang),,, you think may kinalaman po yun sa volume problem ko?
O.k. lang po ba yung amp ko or should i have it checked na?
Thanks Zakkaz. AVR 630 is on sale in Canada, it will be around the same price as a 335, I still havent confirmed the prices yet. I will ask a friend to buy for me.
52k pa sa spectra, not in my budget. :)
Perhaps you try to inquire again at Spectra you will get a better deal for the AVR-630. Its now on sale...
Thanks Bryan West :).
I just inquired, P54k daw, haha, tumaas pa price from the old price na P52k...
HK AVR 635 thru balikbayan box (from Canada) would cost me only P42k.
Sayang, HK630 was only USD500+ in Canada but ran out of stock, probably clearance sale. Oh well :(
You can try The HomeTheater...
I bought mine from Mr. Tuazon, try calling him @ 8138443... He usually arrives after lunch
Thanks Czed, I got my AVR 630 from Sonny last week. And man its heavy! Cool lookin AVR with matching cool aluminum remote.
Indeed it sounds good in music. One of the things I first noticed was the awesome BASS that came out of my Mission M34 floorstanders, w/c wasnt there with my previous Yamaha 650. But kinda lacks the details I heard from my previous Yamaha though.
Maybe I just need to tweak it a bit, still havent done the EZset thing. Or maybe I have to use a different wire to enhance the HF in biwiring (using Ixos 6006 for the LF now). Or is it just because the HK is "warm" that I dont hear the details of my "bright" Yamaha?
Any suggestions guys? TIA
DVD Gurus,
tanong ko lang po.. ano po ung hi-current na sinasabi sa pagsinabing hi-current ung AVR like harman kardon?is it ung current na dino-draw ng avr from supply or ung current ng avr to drive the particular speakers?? Pls shed lights naman mga guru... ;D
Thanks!!!
av_phile,
very well said.. thanks!!! though i do still have a question, which is difficult to drive, the 4ohms or is it 8 ohms impedance?? parang pagkaintidi ko kasi sa cnabi nyo po... mahirap lalo i-drive ung 4ohms.. correct me if im wrong..
thanks!!
Indeed it sounds good in music. One of the things I first noticed was the awesome BASS that came out of my Mission M34 floorstanders, w/c wasnt there with my previous Yamaha 650. But kinda lacks the details I heard from my previous Yamaha though.
Maybe I just need to tweak it a bit, still havent done the EZset thing. Or maybe I have to use a different wire to enhance the HF in biwiring (using Ixos 6006 for the LF now). Or is it just because the HK is "warm" that I dont hear the details of my "bright" Yamaha?
bakit nga ba meron iba ibang impedance ang speakers, performance and sound quality options ba? why not just one? :)
Good question, Bakit nga ba. I think it has something to do with common practice in different areas. Those car amps and speakers are 4 ohm gears, those home systems are more commonly 8 ohms. And I think we just inherited those two most commonly specified speaker impedances today. These days there are even compromises, like 6-ohm speakers. ;D
4-ohm loads generally extract the most power as economically as possible. Provided ofcourse that the amplifier drivng them is designed to handle that load. This is common is car sound systems which are designed with the objective to get the most power from small amps powered by limited car batteries. Pressumably no such restrictions exist at home, so you can have higher impedance loads. Just a thought.
ano po specs ng hk130? tnx
di po ba medyo mahina power output nun?
45W (or 40?) x 5, 20Hz-20kHz, all channels driven
"high current"
540W power consumption
hehe sori guys di ko kabisado mga techicals nun eh...pa explain naman po! hehe ???
HK avr's are conservatively rated. it may be indicated on paper that it has 45 watts per channel but if you bench test the unit or in actual real world usage you may yield an output of 90 watts. The other HK owners can attest to this.
maiinit kc high power.
i don't know yet if after sales support is poor, kc nde pa nasisira yung akin! ;D
hehehe..mainit nga, pero parang diesel habang umiinit gumaganda takbo... ;D
thanks for the replies.
KimosabE, san po yun archi audio? contact #?
thanks for the replies.you can also try spectra at parksquare 1 8185493
KimosabE, san po yun archi audio? contact #?
I saw a review of a Denon 3805 in Audioholics (click here) (http://www.audioholics.com/productreviews/avhardware/Denon-AVR3805_review04.php) being bi-amped by using the room 2/ area 2 amplifier of the Denon and using it as a 2nd amp for bi-amping purposes.
Kaya kaya sa HK to? HK does the same thing, using the 6th & 7th channel for a room 2 amplifier. and with its all channels driven power, it could give ample power as a 2nd amp.
i'm about to get an HK 235 the price is 26th is this a good deal ?My boss was able to get the AVR 235 for only P24,800... of course maybe he got a discount for being a suki, but it's something to think about...
If the HK has preouts and a separate input jacks for zone 2, and has a 6th and 7th speaker termnal for zone 2, then you can.
just got my hk at architectual audio
thanks for the great service
;D
Is it true that most HK receivers are "sirain" according to one of the owner of an A/V shop, marami daw bumabalik na HK sa kanya for service.
How about heat issues?
Any comments?
Is it true that most HK receivers are "sirain" according to one of the owner of an A/V shop, marami daw bumabalik na HK sa kanya for service.
Alam ko yata kung anong AV store yan ah... I was told that same thing ::)
(And you can setup a 5.1 speaker system that might be better than the JBL set for a little less than or around their 23k retail price tag.)
not sure if this will work, but try pressing the OSD button for a few seconds. :)
Gud day to All!!... I'm new here, and wud like to seek some advice/comments/suggestions.... I'm going to purchase avr235/infinity primus 360 at acoustical space in megamall for 45K package (stereo setup only)... Is this in a good price range??.... thanks...Considering that the AVR 235 is about 24-25t, then that means you're getting the Infinity's for roughly 20t a pair. I'd say that's about right - though, have you try comparing prices at other shops (like Architectural Audio in Greenbelt)?
but for your opinion, is this ok?.... or am i got myself an expensive one??...I think you're getting a fair enough deal - that is, you're not getting ripped off or anything.
one thing more, how do you rate HK? for speaker, it doest matter, i hav a low cost budget and i cant affort to buy such as B&Ws or Bose, etc....HK is widely respected in audio. Personally, I like the minimalist styling of their current line of AVRs. Performance-wise, I can't say I've had enough experience listening to other manufacturer's equipment but overall I'm pretty satisfied with my HK (AVR 130). The power is more than enough for a small room (even when driving my 6ohm Wharfedales with only 86dB sensitivity). I'd say musically it's refined, not too much of that 'oomph' factor which makes is less suited for rock or party music, but makes listening to jazz/vocals sweet!
ps... pls send me a landline for archie audio at greenbelt... du u hav... thanks again...Got it from this thread (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=3884.0): 811-6715
Gud day to All!!... I'm new here, and wud like to seek some advice/comments/suggestions.... I'm going to purchase avr235/infinity primus 360 at acoustical space in megamall for 45K package (stereo setup only)... Is this in a good price range??.... thanks...
question po for HK user.. how can u customize yung station channel ng hk avr (ex. 92.3 -JOEY) sa screen?Heheheh... if you did read the manual you'dve learned that that "92.3 - JOEY" is thanks to a function called RDS or Radio Data System, a system where additional data is sent over the airwaves. This data may include station identification, format (e.g., music, news, traffic bulletins), genre (e.g., jazz, easy listening, rock) or even content such as song titles and artist info. It's quite common in Europe and in the States, but here only one other station aside from 92.3 "JOEY" broadcasts RDS (I forgot which).
yung 92.3 kasi sa avr ko after 5 or 10 secs nakalagay JOEY na eh...gusto ko sana gawin sa lahat ng station...thanks in advance.. tinatamad kasi ako basahin yung encyclopedia ..este manual pala... ;D
Heheheh... if you did read the manual you'dve learned that that "92.3 - JOEY" is thanks to a function called RDS or Radio Data System, a system where additional data is sent over the airwaves. This data may include station identification, format (e.g., music, news, traffic bulletins), genre (e.g., jazz, easy listening, rock) or even content such as song titles and artist info. It's quite common in Europe and in the States, but here only one other station aside from 92.3 "JOEY" broadcasts RDS (I forgot which).
In other words, it's only there if the radio station provides it - your receiver just automatically picks it up if it's there. You can't really program it - though, you can select what information to show (if it's there) and you can supposedly use RDS to 'surf' by genre (but then again, with only two stations it's really not very useful).
Tough living in a 3rd world country where radio stations don't have RDS and TV/cable channels don't have closed-captioning. :p
Oh and whatever you do, don't get Bose (http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html)! You're already better off with your Infinity's.
Heheheh... if you did read the manual you'dve learned that that "92.3 - JOEY" is thanks to a function called RDS or Radio Data System, a system where additional data is sent over the airwaves. This data may include station identification, format (e.g., music, news, traffic bulletins), genre (e.g., jazz, easy listening, rock) or even content such as song titles and artist info. It's quite common in Europe and in the States, but here only one other station aside from 92.3 "JOEY" broadcasts RDS (I forgot which).
In other words, it's only there if the radio station provides it - your receiver just automatically picks it up if it's there. You can't really program it - though, you can select what information to show (if it's there) and you can supposedly use RDS to 'surf' by genre (but then again, with only two stations it's really not very useful).
Tough living in a 3rd world country where radio stations don't have RDS and TV/cable channels don't have closed-captioning. :p
To Alistair - thank you very much for the info & concern.. hav a nice day....
To bumblebee - AE is more expensive than primus360... cant afford it by now.... any speaker suggestion?? yung medyo cheaper ha... thanks in advance...
To bumblebee - AE is more expensive than primus360... cant afford it by now.... any speaker suggestion?? yung medyo cheaper ha... thanks in advance...
To Alistair - thank you very much for the info & concern.. hav a nice day....
To bumblebee - AE is more expensive than primus360... cant afford it by now.... any speaker suggestion?? yung medyo cheaper ha... thanks in advance...
galing na din me spectra... hirap tumawad dun, parang ang suplado nung dealer, they are not approchable to me.... try me na lang sa archie audio... mdmi slmat!!
To Maltzer - what's your spk model & how much... pls give some info..... thanks in advance & more power...
Heheheh... if you did read the manual you'dve learned that that "92.3 - JOEY" is thanks to a function called RDS or Radio Data System, a system where additional data is sent over the airwaves. This data may include station identification, format (e.g., music, news, traffic bulletins), genre (e.g., jazz, easy listening, rock) or even content such as song titles and artist info. It's quite common in Europe and in the States, but here only one other station aside from 92.3 "JOEY" broadcasts RDS (I forgot which).
In other words, it's only there if the radio station provides it - your receiver just automatically picks it up if it's there. You can't really program it - though, you can select what information to show (if it's there) and you can supposedly use RDS to 'surf' by genre (but then again, with only two stations it's really not very useful).
Tough living in a 3rd world country where radio stations don't have RDS and TV/cable channels don't have closed-captioning. :p
Cheked this last evening and your right sir! Pag nasa 92.3 sya naka ilaw yung RDS...and check other stations wala sila... :D
I checked this last night and I cant get the reception of 92.3 joey ;D. I need to move the antenae. But tama, other stations dont have RDS
Just the default antenae that came with the HK unit
Crossover (105.1MHz), RDS din yata! :)
Cheked this last evening and your right sir! Pag nasa 92.3 sya naka ilaw yung RDS...and check other stations wala sila... :D
How I wish HK made a speaker A & B terminal
a simple break-out box, with a dpdt switch ought to do it! you can ask your electrical tech do this for you!
common side will feed fromt the avr and either side will go to your 2 speaker systems!
definitely there will be loss! ;D
yes, maybe 500 bucks on parts and labor! ;D
you need not make the wirings longer, about half meter from your avr, you can locate the box just so you can fiddle with the toggle, and the regular speaker wires connect to the box. this is a no brainer setup!
Sir, what about branded wires as opposed to regular wires? How do we handle this? Another complication is bi-wiring .
yes, maybe 500 bucks on parts and labor! ;D
you need not make the wirings longer, about half meter from your avr, you can locate the box just so you can fiddle with the toggle, and the regular speaker wires connect to the box. this is a no brainer setup!
To All... need some info.... is there any possible effect in sound quality when you're using ordinary speaker cables???... BTW, im using HK235/primus 360 (stereo only)... my set up is not yet complete due to budget concern... bumili lang me ng ondinary (awg#14) transparent spk wire sa harware.... meron ba special wire kau gamit??.... kung ordinary wire, dapat b copper material or any??.... pansin ko lang kasi yung effect or maybe may problem sa set up ko.... (matching or any??).... thanks in advance!!!!
ok ba yung hk135 sa b&w dm303 fo ht use and audio? tsaka yung combi na rx-v440 at b&w dm 303? meron ba sa inyo n may ganitong set-up? paki share naman po experience nyo...tnx.
bumblebee.... i dont know if bec of my set up, kung match ba talaga ung hk/infinity or maybe bec of my hearing dahil tumatanda na me??... they said that infinitys are soft in music, i agree on dat... of maybe bec my set up is not yet complete (stereo setup only).....
Sirs, first time poster here.
I do hope you could help me out with some of my questions.
First off - my mom-in-law just gave me an HK 335 as a gift, and got it 2 days ago.
I havent used it for the moment due to some concerns.
The HK needs 120V of power. I have a "Zebra 2000W AVR" that can only supply 110V. Will these lead to any problems? Should I look for an AVR that can specifically give out 120V? If I should replace the AVR, where can I find a good brand, and for how much? (the zebra cost me P6500, by the way). no problem with that basta mas mataas ang wattage nang AVR mo kaya nyang supplayan nang power ang HK mo (you AVR has 2000w while HK only need 890W)
Secondly, I will be hooking up the HK to a couple of Klipsch floor standers. I really dont have the specific name of these speakers, but a couple of things I know about it is that they are circa 1993, three ways using horn tweets. These babies are probably about 150-180W, and having about 93dB sensitivity and have to bi-wiring facilities.
My question is this, can I hook these up to the HK? The speakers came with a Klipsch SW-150, presumably made in the same year. Will I be straining the HK if I use the 110V AVR and pair them with the Klipschs?
TIA
Sirs, first time poster here.
I do hope you could help me out with some of my questions.
First off - my mom-in-law just gave me an HK 335 as a gift, and got it 2 days ago.
I havent used it for the moment due to some concerns.
The HK needs 120V of power. I have a "Zebra 2000W AVR" that can only supply 110V. Will these lead to any problems? Should I look for an AVR that can specifically give out 120V? If I should replace the AVR, where can I find a good brand, and for how much? (the zebra cost me P6500, by the way).
Secondly, I will be hooking up the HK to a couple of Klipsch floor standers. I really dont have the specific name of these speakers, but a couple of things I know about it is that they are circa 1993, three ways using horn tweets. These babies are probably about 150-180W, and having about 93dB sensitivity and have to bi-wiring facilities.
My question is this, can I hook these up to the HK? The speakers came with a Klipsch SW-150, presumably made in the same year. Will I be straining the HK if I use the 110V AVR and pair them with the Klipschs?
TIA
The HK needs 120V of power. I have a "Zebra 2000W AVR" that can only supply 110V. Will these lead to any problems? Should I look for an AVR that can specifically give out 120V? If I should replace the AVR, where can I find a good brand, and for how much? (the zebra cost me P6500, by the way).
Sirs, thank you very much.
Due to your responses, the HK will definitely come to life this evening!!!
just worried about the 50/60Hz issue.
I hope this doesnt fry my HK. Sayang naman.
I do wish I can find out the model/name of my Klipsch.
By the way, the SW150 is a double sub design (am I correct???)
There's a passive and an active Speaker in the enclosure.
According to the manual, the active pushes the passive, creating more air movement.
I really thought that the sub would deliver BAAASSSSSS.
Unfortunately, it hasnt done that.
I have the Xover set at 50hz, and I've been adjusting phase like crazy. Nothing.
Maybe anyone of you has the same sub and may be able to help me out again?
Thanks ulit!!!
just worried about the 50/60Hz issue.
i'm planning to buy an hk 135 at spectra this week. any comments on this avr?
I want the seting-up of these gears to be a once off thing.
Once these things start singing, I want them to remain where they are.
i think there's an internal battery that needs to be replaced. ganyan din sa 5500 ko (tsaka sa 3550 ng kaibigan ko) pag switch off, pero pag standby lang - ok naman nareretain yung settings
with regards dun sa volume going up - di ko pa naexperience yun
sayang naman po gamit nyo kung hindi nyo pag e-experimentohan. sana po nag 2 channel na lang po kyo like yung mga mini component or yung po mga dvd player na may ksamang 5 speakers and 1 sub. :)Bakit naman sayang? Just because he wants to set it up (properly) only once and not fool around with it anymore doesn't make having an HK AVR any less of a pleasant experience. Certainly, it's still a more capable piece of equipment than most of those mini-components or HTIB's you refer to.
Mga sirs,
I have the same problem as this, how do I change the battery? What type of battery is it?
I have a slight variation of the problem. My AVR330's remote won't function properly. Pressing AVR mode then the volume buttons on the remote, doesn't make the volume go up or down on the unit. Other settings are the ones that change. Even the Channel or Speaker buttons on the remote don't function properly (something else changes on the unit). I tried it again and the word 'UNLOCK' shows on the unit display frequently. Is there a way to Unlock the remote settings? I might have locked the remote to some setting. I tried the procedure from the manual but it wouldn't work too. I tried using an AVR130's remote and it works fine.
I'm just looking for options before the last recourse of having it checked (repaired / replaced). Tried replacing the remote batteries too but same problems. Thanks. :)
hi guys... just a newbie here. i'm planning to setup my 1st AV system. Which is better the HK 235 or the Yamaha 650 or the 750? and i'll just be using a wharfedale diamond 9 series speakers becuase of budget constraints. can you give me some inputs?
thank u so much for all your replies! i'll take note on that. Since you've been into this craze for a very long time now, at least can you rate my ht set up as a start for begginers like me? aside from the reviews that i read from the internet, which i dont know if it' s acurate or just a paid ad, iba un galing sa totoong tao. what can you say about the hk335 and def tech cinema pro80. tama kayo mga bro! it's should be our own ears to be pleased, but i think my taste and standard to this kind of hobby would improve and should improve through your comments and suggestions, since am just an apprentice. though i highly preffered a not much expensive set-up, i believe there are products that have great quality yet the price are much affordable, and that's the time we really need you guys as our kuya's here. thanks again so much!
what can you say about the hk335 and def tech cinema pro80.
guys help me decide which HK to get ;D
A pre-owned HK 230 in good condition OR a brand new HK 135 if the price difference of the 230 to the bnew 135 is only 3K?
gulong-gulo na ako ;D ,
Both are 6.1 right?
Yup!
Have you listened to both units? W/c is cheaper?
If we assume that the 230 sounds the same as the 130, w/c sound did you like? Is it worth the 3k difference?
bro for my amateur ears, the 130 and 135 sounds the same at midrange volume.
im getting confused on where to based my decision.
for the 135, i'll get 1 year warranty for peace of mind, newest model, DTS 96/24, dolby pro logic IIx,
for the 230, cheaper, +10W per channel, EZset remote,
san kayo?
Yun naman pala e. E di yung yung cheaper :) Btw, why not go to the next level (or topmost level)? s2kov's 5500?
85w is more than enough for your 5x5 room. HK is conservatively rated, so 85w is about 120w-150w +already compared to other AVRs. That is very powerful and usually found in high end AVRs costing 50k up.
Bottom line: bilhin nyo na yung HK ni Andy :D, sulit yan! pogi pa! (si Andy) :D
tanong lang po:sir wala na po ang avr330 new model na ang pumalit
what's the current price for the HK AVR-330, & saan A/V store po dyan sa manila ang pinakamura ito.....TIA
8)
sir wala na po ang avr330 new model na ang pumalit
sa spectra @ parksquare 1 meron sila hk products
I'm new here. Just got an HK135 & 9.2 last Saturday. For break-in pa sya. Is there a recommended volume for 9.2, cause I learned di dapat malakas patugtugin agad sya? Nasa -30 lang setup ko.If you're not in any particular rush to 'break in' your speakers, just play them at normal volumes. I once heard that 10 o'clock should be the optimum setting for listening (that's about -15 dB). But if your space is small (like mine) and the source audio is already pretty loud, -15 dB might be too much for you already.
just visited the HK website & i found out that they have now a new series, x40 :o.....wala na rin pala ang x35 series, ba't kaya short lived lang masyado ang x35 series ::)
If I'm not mistaken, the x35 series was released in the US and elsewhere more than a year ago (kasabay ng 05 series ng denon and x50 series ng yamaha)--but was only brought here recently in the Philippines. Based on this, it's possible the hk x40s will be sold here in late 2006 or even 2007. S :)o hindi talaga short-lived, late lang talaga ibenta dito.
all the features of the 130 plus the following;
6.1
-5 watts
OSD
Dolby Pro logic IIx
DTS 96/24
sir backdraft,
specs po ba ng avr135 yan?
DP IIx, DTS 96/24?
If you're not in any particular rush to 'break in' your speakers, just play them at normal volumes. I once heard that 10 o'clock should be the optimum setting for listening (that's about -15 dB). But if your space is small (like mine) and the source audio is already pretty loud, -15 dB might be too much for you already.
Just for comparison, I normally listen to the radio at -30 dB. CD's, depending on the material, are also at -30 to -24 dB. For DVDs with loud tracks, I'm at -15 dB and rarely do I have to go up to -10 dB (only on certain DVDs with 'soft' audio). But then again, I have a very small room (25 sqm).
Mga Bro,
I am now a proud owner of HK AVR135 replacing my 5 yr. old Onkyo TX DS 656 (open for sale). Surprised on its performance. Very low yung distortion even at high volume. 40 Watts is under rated for it play as loud as my 85 watt Onkyo but clearer. The 6.1 processor is amazing delivering sound thru my 6 channel all Bose speakers and an active pioneer subwoofer. Although same priced as the Onkyo 503 and higher than any Yamaha with higher wattages but I can say Its Worth the Price. Highly recommended.
Just me.
the hk 135 would be your answer. check out audio excellance at eastwood city cybermall and look for nino. i think the phone number is also given sa av shops thread.
per my experience, matiyaga akong inasikaso nun and that's why i got the 235 from that shop.
Hey guys,no problem with the hk135 because of its high current designed kayang kaya ito idrive ang 9.2
Im planning on an avr upgrade. I am currently using a Diamond 9.2 as fronts, 9cs for center and a wh2 for surrounds. Oks lang ba if i use an HK 135 for those? Will it be compatible?
Hey guys,
Im planning on an avr upgrade. I am currently using a Diamond 9.2 as fronts, 9cs for center and a wh2 for surrounds. Oks lang ba if i use an HK 135 for those? Will it be compatible?
Congrats ibalon on yor new setup. I'll take your word for that. Hope I could sell my yammie right away so i could buy the 135. Thanks
Sir whats the model of your Yammie?
Need some advise. Is it ok to buy a 2nd hand but very mint condition AVR5550 for 20k pesos?
And bring it all the way back to Singapore? Arent electronics cheaper there?
I owned a HK135 , Diamond 9.2 and 9CS wala pa nga lang surround and subwoofer. So far, satisfied ako sa sound, currently in break-in period pa sila lahat coz purchased lang this Dec.
Ibalon
Nope, it is here in Singapore. My friend is selling for 600sgd so converted to around 20k pesos. Mura ba yun? Di ako familiar sa Harman Kardon eh.
Nope, it is here in Singapore. My friend is selling for 600sgd so converted to around 20k pesos. Mura ba yun? Di ako familiar sa Harman Kardon eh.
It is 70wpc and like brand new condition being sold to me by my Singaporean friend. Nabanggit ko kasi na balak kong mag 7.1 setup sa Living room kaso preferred ko Yamaha eh. Good deal na ba ito?
But I think you might need an external amp for that model to become 7.1 if I am not wrong.
Bro Matzer/S2kov,
Thanks. Unfortunately Im having problem getting approval from FINCON. Ayaw ng black color, gusto puro silver lang. Alam na nya siguro na pag black binili ko eh magpapalit din ako ng mga speakers.
Bro Matzer/S2kov,
Thanks. Unfortunately Im having problem getting approval from FINCON. Ayaw ng black color, gusto puro silver lang. Alam na nya siguro na pag black binili ko eh magpapalit din ako ng mga speakers.
Bro Matzer/S2kov,]
Thanks. Unfortunately Im having problem getting approval from FINCON. Ayaw ng black color, gusto puro silver lang. Alam na nya siguro na pag black binili ko eh magpapalit din ako ng mga speakers.
is there a setting to turn my fronts and center speakers to OFF, if i just want to listen to my surround speakers?Wala yatang ganyan. At the minimum I think the fronts are always on (you can turn off the center). Why don't you just unplug the speakers from the back panel?
how do I get around these?
Hi,
Newbie here, first post.
What brand/model of floorstanders ang kaya i-drive ng AVR 135? I'm planning to buy the HK 135 for a 50-50 set up.
Dilemma ko rin which speakers to match: bookshelf fronts+cs+sw or floorstanders+cs? P15k lang budget ko for speakers.
TIA
Hi,
Newbie here, first post.
What brand/model of floorstanders ang kaya i-drive ng AVR 135? I'm planning to buy the HK 135 for a 50-50 set up.
Dilemma ko rin which speakers to match: bookshelf fronts+cs+sw or floorstanders+cs? P15k lang budget ko for speakers.
TIA
Got these HK AVR135+Wharfe 9.2+9.cs+Sw150Congrats! Kulang na lang a pair of 9SR's or 9DFS's to complete the HT experience. Gotta love those guys at Spectra - really accomodating.
Congrats! Kulang na lang a pair of 9SR's or 9DFS's to complete the HT experience. Gotta love those guys at Spectra - really accomodating.
Congrats natural. That's a tasty setup.
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To all gurus. I'd like to ask your opinion on this. Will there be a huge leap of quality and power difference if I shift from Yamaha Rx-v350 to Hk-135? My drivers are Diamond 9.2, cs and wh2 surrounds.
na realize ko rin na hindi ko naman kelangan ng special dsp modes eh like (adventure dsp, sci-fi dsp etc.) kase ang kailangan ko lng pla talaga is dolby digital ex at dts es.
kaya sa bandang huli very hapi ako sa nabili kong harman/kardon at hindi na ako nag sisi sa ginstos kong pera para sa kaluhuang ito. great investment kung investment nga itong maituturing. ;)
hi,
nung bago pa lang yung hk ko (bago lang rin ako nun sa ht/hi-fi world, bago pa rin naman hanggang ngaun) parang nakaramdam ako ng onting pagsisisi. sabi ko sa sarili ko nuon "...dapat nag yamaha na lang ako medyo mid to hi-end level na sana makukuha ko or onkyo na lang sana, nag padala kase ako sa pogi points ng harman tsaka naliliitan ako sa wattages nya tsaka dahil na rin sa mga special dsp modes na inoofer ng iba at ibang png features like dts 96/24, pl2x (yung hk ko kase wala nun) syempre as a "newbie" gusto ko lahat sana ng features meron ako syempre di ba, pero ang sa totoo lang di ko nman alam kung para saan yun iba dun.
so to make the story short, after months and months of listening to my gears at sa gears ng friend ko. medyo natututo na ako makinig at mag compare, at unti-unti na akong nagiging proud sa harman ko, ht man o sa audio, kahit mababa ang power output. lalo ako bumilib sa hk nung bumili ako ng cd player only, nasabi ko na lang sa sarili ko "wow! totoo nga ang sinasabi nila mahusay rin pang audio ang harman, kase kakaiba eh compared sa ibang avr na napakinggan ko sa audio. na realize ko rin na hindi ko naman kelangan ng special dsp modes eh like (adventure dsp, sci-fi dsp etc.) kase ang kailangan ko lng pla talaga is dolby digital ex at dts es.
kaya sa bandang huli very hapi ako sa nabili kong harman/kardon at hindi na ako nag sisi sa ginstos kong pera para sa kaluhuang ito. great investment kung investment nga itong maituturing. ;)
yes sir Matz ive seen ur setup, napakaganda po.. the best talaga. Mga magkano kaya range nitong HK630 ngayon? eto lang ba ang pwede ko gamitin na model for my current speakers? thanks ulet...Thanks.
Nasa 50k+ sya last year & meron na HK635 ngayon. Kung may kilala ka abroad, my friend was able to get a HK635 from Canada (110v) at P42k.
But pwede na HK335 or 235, malakas na rin power nila. But in my experience, the 630 really made my floorstanders sing (w/ no subs) . Manipis tunog nya sa Yammy, kelangan pa ng sub.
hk235 user here...yup it's 7.1
Ang lupit ng performance at power monster talaga. Supposed to be mabibili ko na to, but after inquiring about the availabilty of the Yamaha RX-V757 nag bago ang decision ko at suppose to be that time i-audition ko rin sana yung HK5500 ni Sir S2kov. (Sorry ulit sir :-[) but the price is a littile bit close sa brand new HK235, kaya hindi na ako natuloy. saka mas gamay ko ang set up at performance ng Yamaha kaya I go for the RX-V757 kahit reserve pa lang.
Just me ;)
Has anyone tried using the HK's zone 2 capabilities?
I am planning on using the zone 2 in my bedroom w/c is right above my HT room. There is a 2nd remote but there was no IR sensor included.
But I dont know where to buy the IR sensor. Anyone know? Does Raon have this?
TIA :)
I don't know how HK implements their zone 2 system. Yamaha, as I understood it, can provide input to a second room. That means (please correct me, people if I'm mistaken) you can watch DVD in the main room while listening CD in another room - which would mean you still need an amplifier and a set of speakers in the second room. What you save are the dvd players, cd players etc. Which might not be much if you have single disc players. But if you have those 400 discs cd changers or 300 discs dvd changer and all loaded with your stuff, then the zone 2 implementation makes sense.
What you outlined earlier is like making parallel installation in your room like Speaker A/B with both rooms showing the same thing.
I have infrared paraphernalia I bought ages ago for exactly this kind of project, I can show them to you. I forgot where I bought it, but it's online. Usually at smart home sites.
I just called a HK dealer. The d**n IR thing costs P7.5k >:(! just for an IR sensor!
Gee, and the salesman also said that only HK IR sensor should be used ::). I wonder if thats true.
I'm a she.... ;D
makikisawsaw na rin po, what can u say about ung B3 brand ng speakers, any particular model which you can advice to be used for a 1000watt amp?
Thanks a lot for your shared exp ;Dertise... ;)
I'm a she.... ;D
makikisawsaw na rin po, what can u say about ung B3 brand ng speakers, any particular model which you can advice to be used for a 1000watt amp?
Thanks a lot for your shared exp ;Dertise... ;)
We're planning to assemble another videoke machine for outdoor pero ung nkhiwalay ang speaker. My husband saw a B3 speaker and after listening to it parang gusto nya un pr sa house and ung dati (Konzert 400watts) will be used for rentals. Actually, what i really meant was 1000 watts ung amp, if you've heard of Konzert K-250amp?
Comments please? I think JBL is too expensive for me...
:)Wow, thanks a lot sir hanns!!!!
My next question is, do you have an idea where i could buy those speakers please? I think u implied a price like 6T/pair?
It so happened that our family is one of a music lover from my husband down to my youngest who is 6 years old, everybody could sing so, just imagine the enjoyment of listening to good music and going along with it with a good voice made even better by good technology....
Thanks a lot a gain.
By the way, a friend of mine here asks how to bridge a bridgeable amp if you've any idea.
Hi there.. tanong ko lang sana kung OK itong setup na ito..
Harman Kardon 330
Front - JBL Northridge e60 Floor Standing Speakers X2 (175W)
Center - JBL Northridge e25 (150W)
Surround - JBL Northridge e10 X2 (100W)
Sub- JBL PB12 (250W Powered)
5.1 setup lang muna at dagdag na lang sa 7.1 later on...
Ano sa tingin nyo? Kakayanin ba ng HK330 yung e60 na floor standers?
XXX
Mga bro
Patulong nman po.
First post ko dito. First time ko bibili ng avr. pinagpipilian ko Marantz sr 4500(P17500) tska HK135(19500) since silang dalawa lang nasa budget ko. pang HT at audio pero mostly pang movies ko sya gagamitin.
Ano recommendation nyo?Marantz sr4500 o Harman kardon135?
tska magkano ung speakers na floorstanders na pwede sa HK? wharfdale ung nirerecommend dito pero di ko alam price range nun eh.
Yung mordaunt short na dinemo saken, 10k ung sub, 10k ung left and right
sana po matulungan nyo ko. salamat
bro hanns1976 salamat sa reply
wala akong idea kung ano yung euros na tinutukoy mo eh. san kaya ko mkakakita nun at how much kaya? kasi budget ko 50k for the whole setup. ung budget ko kasi binase ko sa mordaunt short carnival series na set na for sale sa adamson. parang pumapatak 30k ung set.
tska san nyo nirerecommend bumili? ang HK avr135 kasi sa abenson almost 23k..pero sa JBL showroom sa sm north cyberzone 19500 lang
tnx ult
pero meron ang avr140 cnasabing "the bridge". parang i-pod docking station na optional pa, di ko ma-gets yung point. d ba pwede naman sa analog inputs ang i-pod?
bro hanns1976 salamat sa reply
wala akong idea kung ano yung euros na tinutukoy mo eh. san kaya ko mkakakita nun at how much kaya? kasi budget ko 50k for the whole setup. ung budget ko kasi binase ko sa mordaunt short carnival series na set na for sale sa adamson. parang pumapatak 30k ung set.
tska san nyo nirerecommend bumili? ang HK avr135 kasi sa abenson almost 23k..pero sa JBL showroom sa sm north cyberzone 19500 lang
tnx ult
pero meron ang avr140 cnasabing "the bridge". parang i-pod docking station na optional pa, di ko ma-gets yung point. d ba pwede naman sa analog inputs ang i-pod?
Cable lang yung "the bridge" you can use generic cables (RCA, USB, Optical, etc.) kung ano man yon kahit optical supported pa rin ng HK...
Hi Jaytee and Hanns,
"The Bridge" is not merely an Ipod to RCA cable adaptor. If you have the Bridge, you can use Harmans remote control to go through your songs in your Ipod. That means you no longer have to stand up to change your song selection or go thru the menu. We can now be fat, merry and enjoy more music (he he he)!!! Even better, you can read the menu/songs from the front panel of your harman AVR!!!! Ayos di ba?? :) :) :)
Thanks sir for the add'l info, magkano ba price difference ng HK 135 at 140?
bro hanns1976 salamat sa reply
wala akong idea kung ano yung euros na tinutukoy mo eh. san kaya ko mkakakita nun at how much kaya? kasi budget ko 50k for the whole setup. ung budget ko kasi binase ko sa mordaunt short carnival series na set na for sale sa adamson. parang pumapatak 30k ung set.
tska san nyo nirerecommend bumili? ang HK avr135 kasi sa abenson almost 23k..pero sa JBL showroom sa sm north cyberzone 19500 lang
tnx ult
dude if I were you I'll go for the HK, hindi ka magsisi tutal mostly pang HT mo gagamitin, yung HK very good performer on 50% for Audio at 50% for HT. wala pa ako nababasa negative about sa HK AVR. pero you might want to audition Yamaha too. sa speakers naman okey ang Wharfs for newbie set up, yung definitive medyo sirain most of my HT friends lahat nagka problema sa Sub sat system ng definitive. just an advice though so its up to you if you want to gamble on that. then you might want to audition also JBL speakers also. as a good advice dont go on those small cube type speakes nasa huli ang pagsisisi. take my word for it...
If budget allows go for the floor stander kahit local like Euros 8 set up, panalo to been using the Euros center and I'm planning to sell my KSS-10 to change into Euros 8 Towers... :D :D :D
sirs,
i'm using hk 335, and def tech cinema pro80 for ht set-up, and a pair of wharfes 9.2 for audio and it sounds great movies and music, (i don't use my sub when listening to music). just want to you inform you guys also that i've been using my def tech about almost 2 years now, my amp then was a denon 1604, nagpalit ako kasi kulang sa drive. i had a problem also with the prosub 80 before when it was only around 6months old with me, the fuse was always busted, i suspected that it was the y-conector, grounded probably, when it was accidentally pulled-out from the sub and that's the time it started the problem. what i did is, i replaced the y-connector and replced also the fuse from 1.6A to 2A, from then on i didn't have poblem at all. just hope the fuse will get busted when it needed so, otherwise it will be my sub.
medyo OT na sa topic to pero yan ang prob ng def tech, 2 of my fellow HT friends has a pro 80 at parehas silang nagka problema, hindi lang ang sub ang nag kakaproblema, pati yung sat nila laging busted yung midbass driver.
yung pro 80 kahit na 135W/max "DAW" ang kaya. Eh sa particular AVR na 135max din ginamit ng friend ko pero nasira pa din eh. yung fuse naman ganun din ang ginawa nila, pag iba ang fuse rating na gagamitin instead of the factory stock. (used a higher amp) nasira yung internal electronic ng amp. hindi siguro immediately pero eventually parang umiksi ang amp life nila.
yun ang design flaw ng first generation pro80. 1 of my friend waited for 3 mos just to replace the whole amp section ng sub. kaya yung distro ng Deftech dito sa Pinas umaayaw dahil sa bukod na mahina ang sales, yung quality pa ng electronics parang mahina rin. actually biniro ko pa siya hindi dapat "definitive technology" ang brand nila kung di "defective technology" hehehe! sobra rin sila sa marketing tulad ng BOSE, magagaling daw sa reviews... pero I doubt based on my friends actual expirience with them....
Gudpm sir hanns1976!
Makikisawsaw lang po... :) Yung definitive ba na tinutukoy mo is also a speaker? Tnx. :)
sir, thank you so much for the info, medyo nag-alala nga lang ako. well sana humaba buhay ng speakers ko, otherwise bye with my 40k+. kaya pala halos wala na ako makita sa market ngayon. sayang, actually ganda naman talaga ng sound quality ng def tech. thanks again sir. can you advise me how can i prolong it's life? beside from not using it (hehehe!) at least if there's any idea to maintain it. thanks again sir.
yup speakers yun. heres the link www.definitivetechnology.com yung subsat nila medyo sablay. just dont know about their floor stander at box system...
Maganda naman talaga ang speakers specs ng Definitive, isipin mo 30khz! tapos 18hz! WOW kaya nga medyo ang lupit ng freq range ng speakers eh, I doubt lang kung maririnig pa natin yung ganun freq. anyways, yung friend ko ang ginawa niya may dedicated na AutoVoltReg. sa sub niya na rated at 2kva. yun medyo okey na.
Pero you know? before the damage happens to his pro80, I advise him not to use the sub sat configuration. ganto kasi yun...
yung sattellites kasi ng pro80 is small diba? I advised him to connect it directly sa receiver then set it to small tapos yung sub gamitin nalang niya ang preout ng L/R and the LFE ng receiver, directly connect the RCA from receiver to sub. para ma stabilize ang voltage gain. kasi ang ginawa niya yung speaker out kinabit na muna niya sa sub then sa sattellites, so parang nagkaroon ng cascading effect. kasi bukod sa RCA out the receiver, naka connect din yung speakers out ng receiver sa sub.
eh my question is, variable ang signal ng speaker out terminal ng receiver, so paano ma cocompensate ng amp section ng sub yun eh isipin mo min of 100Watts yun lumalabas sa receiver, and "God knows" kung ilang voltage gain ang pumapasok dun sa amp ng sub. kaya I think thats one thing kung bakit nasisira yung amp section ng subwoofer nila.
Imagine this connecting yung speakers out terminals ng recevier to another amplifier. what do you think will happen? eh di sunog ang amp section ng receiver... kasi hindi naman sila design to receive such signal kahit sabihin pa nila sa tech spec ng sub yun hindi pa rin nila masasabi dahil iba iba ang ginagamit na receiver (tech spec) ng end user...
Thanks for the info sir hanns1976... :) I also have an hk235 can you give me an advice what kind of (8ohms) speaker na medyo budget ang price nya pero ok ang performance... :) BTW 50\50 po ako between music and movie. Thanks alot.... :)
sir hanns, thanks again! actually that's the way i set it up from the start, directly the speaker to the ampli, set in small speakers. sir hanns tanong lang uli, ho can a good or expensive speaker cable effects the sound? mag palit sana ako ng wire, yun xlo/vdo er-11. how will it effect my wharfs 9.2 with hk avr 335 for audio stereo set-up? thanks po again.
Expensive cables usually conductivity rate at brand ang binibili dun plus yung accreditation (eg.THX cert.) but for performance basta O2 free siya at medyo thick okey naman sa performance. sometimes yung iba gumagamit pa ng gold at silver wires maganda kasi yung conductivity rate eh. yung Oxyfree kasi na lelessen yung deterioration like slow oxydation. so ang nagyayari nagkakaroon din ng deterioration ang sound. yun ang difference sa performance na good quality wires vs. dun sa generic brands. at talagang ma nonotice mo ang difference sa sound. plus gamit ka ng thicker wires para maganda yung conductivity.
just a tip use equal length to all your speaker wires (L,C,R,SR,SB) para yung sound distribution walang delay at maganda ang steering. kasi kahit papaano meron travel distance ang sound from your receiver to your speakers. so imagine kung hindi equal yung length ng cables eh di iba iba rin ang arrival from amp to speakers. ;)
Depende sa speakers. kung sa local, Dai-ichi goes for a mile from other local brands, particularly Euros 8 set up, pero nasa 6 ohms to, pero kayang kaya ng HK mo yan. sa imported naman go for the Wharfs. kevlar driver at an affordable price...
Dont worry too much sa impedance as long as hindi bumababa sa 4 ohms...
If you decide to go for other brands. just a tip. try looking for a higher sensitivity (db) para mas madali i-drive ng AVR.
Ako kasi, I decided to go for a Professional Speakers, ginagamit ko ito sa Videoke. eh alam mo naman pag ganun sound application, eh dapat sanay sa bugbugan ang speakers plus dapat kaya niya ma-witheld ang microphone feeds... pero syempre pinili ko rin naman yung match sa receiver ko (Yamaha RX-V995). 20% Videoke, 30%Music, 50%HT ako hehehe!
sir hanns, kasi dapat mag set up din ako ng dedicated for audio that's why i bought another pair of speaker which is wharfes 9.2. sabi nung kaibigan natin sa what hi-fi store, located at makati square, wag na daw ako bumili pa ng integrated amp kasi malakas na nga raw yun hk 335, he advised me to use a good quality speaker cable instead dahil with ordinary speaker wire sakal daw ang power ng amp, and listened to him. at first i used the xlo/vdo 14, bi-wire, and i noticed the clarity and details ng sound yun nga lang masyado naging bright, masakit na sa tenga, i remved the bi-wire and it sounds better. i returned the extra wire to them and told me to try the xlo/vdo 11, it's a 12 gauge, thicker than the er14 which is 14 gauge, and am waiting for it now. hope it'll sound much much better kasi double price yun nung lower gauge.
Thanks ulit... :) I go for wharfedale diamond 9 siries nalan sir... ;D Masyado po kasi ko masunurin and takot baka kasi in the long or short run bumigay either my speaker or my receiver e. Hirap ata mag-ipon... ;D Hehehehehe... ;D
Advice naman po ulit kung ano yung mas ok na setup for my HK235? I Want to maximized kasi yung power ng reciever ko e. :)
Front speaker : Diamond 9.4, 9.5 or 9.6
Center speaker: Diamond 9cs or 9cm
Surround: Diamond DFS
Sub: US Audio (any recommendation)
for me, if budget allows, I'll be havin this:
L/R: DIAMOND 9.5 (30-150W) 88db, 6ohms - I choose this bec. I wanna go an extra mile. just in case an upgrade.
Center: DIAMOND 9.CM (30 - 150W) 90db, 6ohms - and this bec. center is the most "Critical" on HT 100% usage.
Surround: DIAMOND 9.DFS (15 - 200W) 86db, 6ohms - and this bec. I wanna set my surround to large higher capacity. Sub: SW250 (250W) if budget contraints go for the SW150 (150W) - better use Wharfs sub for sound consistency.
Hi Im planning to buy HK 235 or a Yammy 657 for an upgrade...How much kaya ngayn ang HK 235, any advices will be highly appreciated...thanks
Just got me a new HK135 last Friday! I am so happy with the decision I made. My Diamonds sounded better. Lumawak ang tunog. Bass got lower and I love the output of it's center and surrounds. My daughter and I were watching Zathura last Sat when I almost spilled my coffee at a certain highly surrounded part of the movie. he he Sounds fantastic. Its much better than the New Yamaha 657. Just me though. Still trying to master its capabilities.
sir, whats the nominal impedance for HK135? can it drive a 4 ohm speaker?
Congrats bro! Enjoy!
sir hanns malaki po ba ang difference ng 9cs sa 9cm? Bakit po madalas 9.5 and 9cs ang magka partner and 9.6 and 9cm?
Hey knefut. Kamusta? Your 9cs sounds great with my 135. I already asked this question with Jose of SPECTRA. He said oks lang daw kabitan ng 4ohm driver though its a 8ohm avr.
congrats on your new set up.
i'm starting on a new setup and i'm hoping to get a 235 for a speaker set being advertised at the ads section and 686 dvd player.
thanks for the answer to my quesry. i just like to be sure kc 8 ohms yung nakalagay sa back panel ng 235.
Wharf 9cm for me is better. it is rated at 90db so madali ma-idrive the amp. plus medyo mataas ang power capacity. eh sa HT naman more of the program runs on the dialogue. almostly 100% usage, so medyo critical ang center, dapat at least mag boses human or ma mimic niya yung tonal voice. not mentioning pag nagkakaroon ng effects, yung center bugbog talaga so thats why I choose this model over the lower model. thats the role of the center for vocal dialogue on the HT others are just sidelines.
Just a Tip: let your surrounds height placement be lowered at least maximum height is 6FT or 1.8m. but not lower than 36inches. this is for the height sound level. para maganda ang steering ng the whole speakers system. remember your ears are slightly +/- 45deg bent forward. so most of the captured sound from your fronts arrive early than the rear effects to your ears. so slightly adjust the rears higher db than your fronts. dont worry it wont over power your fronts bec most of the HT program the surrounds are quiet or silent. minsan lang magkaroon ng peak.
Fronts: Diamond 9.2
Center: Diamond cs
rear: Wh2
Sub: Tweaked DQ12 (which I plan to sell btw) he he.
Maraming salamat sa mga sumagot sa mga tanong ko re HK135.
Pls welcome me HK ppl... im a proud owner of a HK135 hehe
:)
Mga bro, anong recommended nyong spkrs para dito? meron na ba kong mkukuhang floorstanders na matino for 10 k? magkano ba ung wharfedale 9.6?
salamat po ult
Mga bro, anong recommended nyong spkrs para dito? meron na ba kong mkukuhang floorstanders na matino for 10 k? magkano ba ung wharfedale 9.6?
salamat po ult
....Mga bro, anong recommended nyong spkrs para dito? meron na ba kong mkukuhang floorstanders na matino for 10 k? ....
Euros8 towers :)
Tawag ka sa spectrum 8940130... :)
Diamond 9.5 17+
Diamond 9.5 12,500
Diamond 9.4 Below 10k
Mga bro kaya kaya ng 135 yung
diamond 9.6,9cm,tska 9dfs?
kasi baka uminit ng todo eh..bka maging frying pan si harmie ko
meron na kayong nakitang may ganun ang setup? tska anong recommended sub nyo sa set na to?
tnx ult!!
salamat bro. dadalaw ako this weekend. ano setup mo? sensya na, newbie lng kasi ko gs2 ko malaman kung anong spkr setup para sa 135 ko
naka 135 ka ren bro? magkano euros 8 bnew?
Last month i also bought my HK235 at digital dreams at sm carpark. They gave me at 26000 flat (cash price). Last friday i went to spectra to audition the Diamond 9 series and I also ask them how much the HK235 26,500(cash price) sa kanila... Nice choice yan bro. Ako nga speaker pa lan ng mini compo namin gamit ko ngayon pero happy nko sa tunog nya, what more kung may speaker na talga ko na dedicated for my receiver. hehehehe... :) Excited na nga ako makabili ng speaker e. Anyway Haba na sinabi ko simple lan namn tanong..... ;D Happy Hunting... ;D
thanks for d info...How about HK 135 magkano kaya ngayn....
thanks for d info...How about HK 135 magkano kaya ngayn....
Digital Dreams 22,990 pag card... :)
19,500 cash price... ;D
Well lets see. pero yung gauge 14 is already thick. you know why naging bright yung wharfs? bec the way you bi-wire the terminals... as an advise, dont use the gold biwire jumper... try mo to...\
Diba yung wharfs 9.2 has 2 terminals? one for the hi and one for the midbass? ganto... use 2 cables on each channel (2 cables for left and 2 cables for the right)... then yung one set of cables for the left connect it parallel same din sa right, tapos connect it on each receivers terminal *WAG BRIDGE HA?* so left and right pa rin, bale 2 cable on each channel. tapos yung other end of the cables leave you with 2 end ( 2 positive and 2 negative) terminal... gamitin mo yung isa cable for the hi and the other for the mid-bass...
lets see, madami na ako ginawan ng ganitong connection and the sound changed dramatically...
I have a AVR135. What would be more preferrable to use, the 5.1 Analog In or Coaxial/Optical connections?
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sir hanns, that's what i did. anyways inalis ko na yun bi-wire and am using now the xlo/vdo er11 to my wharfs 9.2 for music, it's the 12gauge speaker cable, and really sounds great para ako naka sub or floorstander. yun 14gauge i'm using it for my promonitor 80 (front LR) and procenter 100, and it gives me much more clarity for my movie set-up. sir thank so much! more power to hk users!
I was able to connect a tube pre amp to my HK AVR's cd input successfully last night.
I deactivated the DSP & surround mode and there, I got tube sound with SS amp.
It was great for jazz & vocals, but not that great for pop songs.
Optical the best for 100% conductivity, the problem is the cable tension, dont bend the fiber optic in excess of 50mm in diameter in order to maintain its data signal.
by the way AUDIO PRO XAP-OP0710 fiber optic cable is around Php350 and its great on audio and in HT.
heres the features:
Innovative award winning design.
Highly non-migratory noise free fiber optical.
24k superior quality connectors.
2 universal conversion adapter included.
yep, I just saw these at Ace Hardware, though I think they're selling it at a much higher price.
what do you mean by not bending the fiber optic in excess of 50mm in diameter?
I have a AVR135. What would be more preferrable to use, the 5.1 Analog In or Coaxial/Optical connections?
I have been using optical ever since I had my first avr. But Jose of SPECTRA made me change my mind when I bought my 135 A week ago. He told me that Coax is the best daw "Mas malawak ang tunog. Manipis kasi ang tunog ng optical he stressed. Well I tried and it does, but not at all times. May movies na mas maganda and optical kesa coax. I'll try and get one branded coax baka mas malaki difference.
try mo MONSTER OPTICAL CABLE yung THX certified... lets see kung masmaganda nga ang transfer ng coax vs optical...
Actually someone is offered an Acoustic Research coax cable. Oks kaya yun?
I was able to connect a tube pre amp to my HK AVR's cd input successfully last night.
I deactivated the DSP & surround mode and there, I got tube sound with SS amp.
It was great for jazz & vocals, but not that great for pop songs.
Gudpm sir hanns... :)
I got my 9cm yesterday... ;D
Can you help me setting up the crossover frequency of my hk235 and what size should i use large or small?
Another question is how to break in the speaker properly? May nabasa kasi ako na may nabibili pa daw na cd to break-in the speaker accurately...
Tnx... :)
I hooked up a Wharf Diamond 9SR to my HK 135 last night so the surround icon should light up in the HK display, right?
Wala kasing lumabas, although when watching Mr and Mrs Smith the SR and SL icons lumabas, but no box icon around them.
How do I test these surround speakers? I'm using a ga14 Audio Pro cable bought at Ace.
Thanks.
press the TEST button on the remote. dapat may lalabas na signal sa lahat ng channel. paikot yun.
or sa speaker settings set LARGE or SMALL sa SL at SR.
Uyy Congrats! magkano bili mo?
Anyways yung sa question mo, set it to 70hz large to have all the full freq. coz when you set it to small. freq from 90hz below will be cutoff. Wharfs CM freq range is from 70hz to 24khz. anyways meron naman cross over yan so to eliminate distortion. giving dedicated freq on ea. driver.
Yung break in period nyan is medyo matagal so dun naman sa cd na pang breakin ndi ko lang alam kung saan nakakabili nun, anyways still the proper playing volume and number of hour should be performed. yung sound nyan from first is medyo sharp pero as time breakin gaganda yan. just be patient saka wag mo muna itodo just adequate volumes lang muna. pag na proper burn na yung voice coils nyan at yung surround suspension nyan eh na kung baga na sanay na. gaganda yan...
start playing it na para mag simula na yung burn in time nyan... :)
Thanks sir Hanns... ;D
6,300 sa spectra free delivery pa... :) Bait nga ni sir lesly e... :)
Kya lan bakit ganun wala syang kasamang extra 4 feets para just incase gusto mo sya tilt?
Pano nga pala yun sir hanns walang 70hz? 60hz and 80hz lang meron sa crossover frequency e?
Thanks sir Hanns... ;D
6,300 sa spectra free delivery pa... :) Bait nga ni sir lesly e... :)
Kya lan bakit ganun wala syang kasamang extra 4 feets para just incase gusto mo sya tilt?
Pano nga pala yun sir hanns walang 70hz? 60hz and 80hz lang meron sa crossover frequency e?
sir, use 80hz for the crossover frequency. there will be a gap if you use 60hz.
by the way, does anyone know the DAC of the HK135. Is it 192/24 or 96/24? I can't seem to find it in the user's manual or HK website.
Galing talaga ng sevice sa spectra, anyways go for the 60hz. meron naman passive electronic xover yan CM's eh...
dont worry about the rubber feet meron nabibili 3M ganda pa ng quality. available siya sa ACE hardware...
kse pag 80hz ginamit mo. yung CM's kasi is up to 70hz so medyo ninipis ang tunog unlike sa 60hz kahit ma filter ng CM's hanggang 70hz at least pasok at kumpleto sa freq range ng CM's. remember 70hz to 24khz yan... so medyo malawak ang range...
May nakapag sabi sakin na wag ko daw sasagad yung frequency range ng speaker kasi daw masyadong mapupwersa yung speaker kasi daw magpoproduce daw sya ng bass na hindi nya kaya.... Whats your opinion sir hanns?
press the TEST button on the remote. dapat may lalabas na signal sa lahat ng channel. paikot yun.
or sa speaker settings set LARGE or SMALL sa SL at SR.
kse pag 80hz ginamit mo. yung CM's kasi is up to 70hz so medyo ninipis ang tunog unlike sa 60hz kahit ma filter ng CM's hanggang 70hz at least pasok at kumpleto sa freq range ng CM's. remember 70hz to 24khz yan... so medyo malawak ang range...
sir correct me if i'm wrong. so kung 60hz ang x-over setting para sa CM, kaya nya hanggang 70hz di ba. pero paano yung sound na 60hz to 69hz? hindi sya napadala sa subs and gets lost, producing a gap in the sound.
sir correct me if i'm wrong. so kung 60hz ang x-over setting para sa CM, kaya nya hanggang 70hz di ba. pero paano yung sound na 60hz to 69hz? hindi sya napadala sa subs and gets lost, producing a gap in the sound.
Who told you that? kaya nga may freq range ang speakers eh, at indicated ito sa tech specs nung speakers mismo para may idea yung gagamit kung hanggang saan yung range capacity niya. by the way heres an idea. If you notice meron speakers na gumagamit ng electronic crossover diba?, dalawang klase ito active at passive. yung sa wharfs CM particularly passive. yung use nito is to filter the freq na papasok sa speakers. so dito palang sala na yung signal na kayakayanin ng speakers so paano masisira ito kung isasagad mo yung freq range ng amp? unless itotodo mo talga ang volume at lalagpas sa 150Wmaximum range ng speakers...
sir correct me if i'm wrong. so kung 60hz ang x-over setting para sa CM, kaya nya hanggang 70hz di ba. pero paano yung sound na 60hz to 69hz? hindi sya napadala sa subs and gets lost, producing a gap in the sound.
Yung crossover for the mid/bass, ang sinasala lang nya is the upper frequency range at hindi lower frequency range. Let say sa CM mo, ang xover point ng midbass is 2k, ang pinapadala na frequency sa mid bass mo is 2k and lower. Kung magpatugtog ka ng cd na may 20hz, pupunta yan sa midbass mo kasi upper frequency range ang sinasala nya and hindi lower frequency range.
Ang rating na 70hz, hindi ibig sabihin non walang frequency na lower than 70hz and papasok sa speakers. Ang ibig sabihin nito, ito ang frequency na kaya nyang iproduce na audible. Papasok pa rin ang 20hz dito pero ang ilalabas nyang tunog ay around 70hz pa rin kasi yung ang kaya nya ilabas (i.e. 2k and lower hindi 70hz and higher).
Who told you that? kaya nga may freq range ang speakers eh, at indicated ito sa tech specs nung speakers mismo para may idea yung gagamit kung hanggang saan yung range capacity niya. by the way heres an idea. If you notice meron speakers na gumagamit ng electronic crossover diba?, dalawang klase ito active at passive. yung sa wharfs CM particularly passive. yung use nito is to filter the freq na papasok sa speakers. so dito palang sala na yung signal na kayakayanin ng speakers so paano masisira ito kung isasagad mo yung freq range ng amp? unless itotodo mo talga ang volume at lalagpas sa 150Wmaximum range ng speakers...
Sa nag sasabi naman sayo na pangit isagad ang freq range ng speakers vs amp capabilities eh. sana isipin muna kung para saan ang mga freq spec nito at bakit ito inindicate ng mga speakers manufacturers at para saan ito. kasi for all I know its there to give a user guide para maiwasan ang damage sa speakers at magamit ang full performance capabilities ng speakers it self...
Syempre para maiwasan ang pagkasira ng speakers gagamit ka ng mag fifit or yung susuitable for the speakers capacity and the amps output range. kung imiminimize mo lang ito sayang ang gears mo. pero nasasayo yun. diba kaya tayo bumibili ng mga ganitong gears is for our entertainment, kung pigil parang kulang or bitin diba? in reality nasa pag gamit mo yan talga. pero diba mas maganda kung ma maximize mo yung performance ng gears mo at the same time maingat sa pagamit...
maximum capacity ng whafs vs the HK AVR is at risk dahil remember FTC rated ang HK...
Medyo hindi ko na gets ito? Ano po yung FTC rated? :)
The literal meaning of FTC is Federal Trade Commision its an institution under federal law stating the protection of consumers from misleading product information. lets put it in this case...
Lets say yung Harman AVR235 when it was tested for product rating. it is producing a true 50watts at a hcc +/-35amps. this is certified by FTC kasi sila rin ang nag test. this to protect you (the consumer) that the product you bought is truly producing those figures...
parang ISO yan at BPS... meron silang rules and guideline na tinitignan like random testing, etc.. para ma distinguish, kung whats that product is...
pero alam mo yung 100watts ng Yamaha kayang habulin ng 50watts ng Harman Kardon. you know why? meron din kasing sariling institution ang Yamaha para i-rate ang products nila... alam mo naman ang JAPAN... may sariling mundo hehehe! (joke) pero in reality yung product nila is rated by an independent institution din like JIC etc. hindi ko lang sure kung ano...
hope this gives you an idea na about FTC...
i know a harman/wharf setup will basically produce a warm sound. but are there ways to make the sound a little bit brighter, aside from adjusting the tone controls? maybe switching to 16GA wires for the HF bi-wire? other suggestions.
yvesjae,
sa experience ko, gauge has nothing to do with the sound of the cable. pwedeng may lima kang 16Ga cables, at iba iba ang tunog nilang lahat. may mapayat, may mataba, may malabo, may detalyado. ang kailangan ay maghanap ka ng neutral or bright sounding cables. pwede kang mag silver cables din. not all silvers are bright sounding pero may tendency sila maging bright pag hindi maganda ang pagka execute.
pwede mo ding dagdagan ang pagka toe-in ng speakers mo. pwede ding ilayo mo ng konti sa wall ang speakers mo. pwede mo ring hinaan ng konti ang sub mo kung meron ka.
pag hindi pa ring makuha, i think palitan mo na ang speakers mo :) baka ang type mo neutral sounding hindi warm sounding .
peace ;D
HEHEHE! good reply... my advice use a bi wire with a 14ga. cable... tignan mo kung ano kakalabasan
THis is exactly wht I did last Friday night. Found myself watching the whole weekend sa ganda ng sound quality improvements ng diamonds ko.
yvesjae,
sa experience ko, gauge has nothing to do with the sound of the cable. pwedeng may lima kang 16Ga cables, at iba iba ang tunog nilang lahat. may mapayat, may mataba, may malabo, may detalyado. ang kailangan ay maghanap ka ng neutral or bright sounding cables. pwede kang mag silver cables din. not all silvers are bright sounding pero may tendency sila maging bright pag hindi maganda ang pagka execute.
pwede mo ding dagdagan ang pagka toe-in ng speakers mo. pwede ding ilayo mo ng konti sa wall ang speakers mo. pwede mo ring hinaan ng konti ang sub mo kung meron ka.
pag hindi pa ring makuha, i think palitan mo na ang speakers mo :) baka ang type mo neutral sounding hindi warm sounding .
peace ;D
baka kailangan ko nga magpalit ng speakers. ;D ano ba brands na neutral sounding speakers?
My problem is numipis ang tunog ng speakers ko even if I put the Bass to maximum.Sounds like your front speakers are set to 'small'.
Another thing I followed the instructions doon sa likod ng remote just this morning ngayon ayaw ng gumana ng remote ko.Paano ba sya ire-reset?It should be in the manual somewhere. Sorry, I can't remember it off the top of my head. Try searching this thread, too. I remember mentioning it here before.
Thanks for the info.
I'll find time to read the manuals.
Medyo na-excite kasi ako he he he.
With regards sa OSD, yes it has a button for OSD but how do I connect the HK out to the TV in?
I tried using an RCA and connect the front display jack of HK to the display jack in my TV pero wala pa nangyari.
Guys tulong naman,
I just change my receiver from Promac to HK235.
My problem is numipis ang tunog ng speakers ko even if I put the Bass to maximum.
Im using a 3 way 120 watts linear powered bookshelf pioneer speakers using AudioPro optical cable before analog lang connection ko.
Paano ba sine-setup ng tama ang bagong AVR ko, I got lost sa functionality pa lang ng remote.
I can't even set the OSD function sa screen ng TV ko.
Another thing I followed the instructions doon sa likod ng remote just this morning ngayon ayaw ng gumana ng remote ko.Paano ba sya ire-reset?
TIA.
Thanks for the help guys.
I was able to set my speakers to large so medyo umokey ang tunog nya compared yesterday na masyado manipis.
Manipis pa rin ang tunog for my convinience I think I better change my speakers or add a sub, wala pa kasi akong sub.
I don't feel like im in a movie house dahil manipis for my preference ang tunog ng speaker ko.
With regards sa remote na reset ko na rin.
My only problem right now is the OSD.
I tried this:
Video: DVD out --> AVR DVD in --> AVR monitor out --> TV video in
I use an s-vid from DVD to AVR (Vid 1) then RCA from AVR to TV (Vid 1) but it didn't work.
Should I use S-vid or RCA for all for me to be able to see the OSD?
One more thing wala akong analog connection is this the reason bakit ayaw tumunog ng VCD and MP3 ko?
With regards sa remote na reset ko na rin.
My only problem right now is the OSD.
I tried this:
Video: DVD out --> AVR DVD in --> AVR monitor out --> TV video in
I use an s-vid from DVD to AVR (Vid 1) then RCA from AVR to TV (Vid 1) but it didn't work.
Should I use S-vid or RCA for all for me to be able to see the OSD?
One more thing wala akong analog connection is this the reason bakit ayaw tumunog ng VCD and MP3 ko?
Alam mo the best thing na gawin mo, hanap ka ng kaibigan na marunong mag set up, at magpaturo ka step by step, wag ka mag experimento at baka magkaloko-loko yan mga gears mo...
when in doubt check it out...
Always seek for a qualified person, kung wala kang mahanap na kaibigan na marunong mag set-up the better way is tawagan mo yung pinagbilihan mo ng HK at magpaturo ka...
Sir what do you mean break in first before buying anything?
Second, I can only use 6/8 direct channel connection when playing MP3's.
I can't take advantage of the DAC ng HK lalo na iyung Logic 7.
Ito pa naman isang reason bakit ako bumili ng bago AVR.
Is this normal or I missed to setup something or do I need to buy a new DVD player?
PCM - Ito po ba iyung may option na RAW.
Sa RAW kasi naka-set iyung DVD ko.
First, nag o-overlap ang screen menu ng OSD di ko tuloy ma-set ng maayos dahil di ko makita ng maayos ang option/s.
pagkabit ko pa lang ng monitor out sa tv nag pi-flicker na sya grayish ang background
-pad pindot ko ng OSD white ang kulay ng menus tapos grayish flickering overlapping menu options
One more thing.
Sabi ng isang tech guy sa 5th Ave I only need to connect L/R speakers from DVD to AVR.
Im thinking of buying 5 interconnects to connect the 5 speaker output of my DVD to my receiver.
Is he right? Iyung prologic 2 na lang daw ang mag handle ng rear and center.
Some questions though:
How do I use the analog function if I dont want the optical or coax connection.
Para saan ba iyung vid1 - vid 4 sa remote?
I just press DVD kasi.
thanks bro ricky!
so i just have to connect the front pre outs to the aux in of the stereo amp?
hi backdraft,
if you have an aux in, then most likely what you have is a receiver or integrated amp. if this is the case, then it is not recommended that you connect your receiver to your other receiver / integrated amp :):):)
THanks AA!
This I have to make sure that it has an aux in. If it doesn't, can I just connect it to the CD in?
Thanks again guys!
hi backdraft,
if it has a CD in or other source inputs, then this is also a receiver / integrated amp.
what is recommended is a dedicated amplifier.
good luck :)
thanks AA!
Thanks for the info.
I'll find time to read the manuals.
Medyo na-excite kasi ako he he he.
Mga sir question naman uli.
How do I change the volume level per channel on my HK 235 receiver?
For me, pre outs. walang pre outs sa 135
thank for the reply, but I am particular to the power rating, one is 40 and the other is 50, the dealer told me that the 10 watts difference was significant with regards to HK amps
135 - 40watts/ch * 5 ch=200
235 - 50watts/ch * 7 ch=350
Kung bitin ka sa power, use the pre-outs to connect to a more powerful external amp.
Sir what I mean to say is the current input not the power output.
Regarding the 135 and 235 model.
Medyo late ko na kasi nalaman ito I already bought the 235 model.
Dapat iba sana nabili kong model iyung 85watts na 5.1 if I knew this before hand.
Iyung 135 40watts/5 channels = 8watts per channel
Iyung 235 50 watts/7 channels = 7.14 watts per channel
IMO,given this much better tumunog ang 135 kaso wala syang preouts.
Tama ba ako...o imagination ko lang ito.
Para saan ba ang pre-outs at paano ko ba gagamitin ito?
Ano ba dapat meron ako para ma-take advantage ko pre-outs ng 235?
Salamat.
I auditioned an Infinity Beta HCS set last month and it sounded like they were BIG speakers. They were connected to a HK635 that time. Very impressive compact 5.1 speaker system.
I came back after a few weeks to listen to it again and it sounded quite bright. I didnt notice but it turns out that it was connected to a HK235 that time.
The manager explained to me (in short) that the more power the receiver has, the warmer it tends to sound. He also said that Model 330/335 to 630/635 have warmer sound than the 135-235.
question lan mga bro...
Bakit ganon? Bakit kayang kayang i-drive ng hk235 ang JBL Northridge-E series(floorstanding) samantalang yung beta series bookshelves lang pero manipis tumunog? Diba dapat mas kayang kaya ng 235 ang bookshelves kesa sa floorstanding? Any opinion? Anyone???
question lan mga bro...
Bakit ganon? Bakit kayang kayang i-drive ng hk235 ang JBL Northridge-E series(floorstanding) samantalang yung beta series bookshelves lang pero manipis tumunog? Diba dapat mas kayang kaya ng 235 ang bookshelves kesa sa floorstanding? Any opinion? Anyone???
di rin natin masabi, baka naman pag HK335-HK635 gamitin mo sa Northridge floorstanders, eh the same rate ang improvement as compared to the Beta comparison above..Thanks sa maga nagreply... ;D
Kung sa kaya i-drive, almost all receivers kaya naman i drive ang floorstanders. Ang tanong lang eh, gaano kaganda or maximized to its full potential yung tunog ng floorstanders. IME kasi pag FS (floorstanders) the more power you give it (in SS amp power) the better it sounds.
Sa Beta bookshelf speakers siguro na narinig ko, the powerful 75w of the HK635 was able to drive it to its best performance.
Its just a recommendation, bro. I am merely sharing my experience with floorstanders. Its really up to you. Kung ok ka na sa sound ng 9.5 sa yo w/ 235, then ok na yan. High current naman ang HK so it can drive the 9.5 with no problems. But for its best potential, I am sure you will hear a big difference if you use the powerful HK635 with the 9.5. BUT the HK 635 is so expensive! The solution? A 2 channel power amp! ;D
But like the other posts mentioned here, its more practical (also in my own opinion) to get a lower model receiver and an external power amp, preferably 2 channel to power your FS. There are lots of cheap 2nd hand power amp for sale in the buy & sell section. IMHO, You dont need the high wattages for the center and specially the surrounds, let the receiver handle that.
And the good thing about power amps is that you wont need to upgrade them, so its a good investment. You can keep upgrading your receiver (due to new technologies), but the power amps remain.
I'd like to know how my speaker would sound if I use an external amp to power my front speaker.
Paano ba sya i-setup once I got the external amp?
TIA
Thats what im thinking... ;D Kaya nga hk235 kinuha ko instead of hk135 because of the pre out features e... ;D Sir, can you give me an idea kung ilang watts ng power amp ang kailangan for floorstander like 9.5? And ano ano po brand ang compatible with HK?
TIA
kelan kaya lalabas yung HK240 dito para bumaba na price ng HK235? ;D
Tingin ko mga 3rd quarter of this year pa siguro. I also holding my plan until this model already available in the market.....sana huwag lang masyado mahal ang price.....
Cheers...
Hi guys! Been reading your informative messages on this topic about HK receivers...and learned a lot about receivers, and made me realize I'm indeed a rookie pagdating sa HT world :)
I'm planning to purchase HK135 as my receiver, I think it's the best valued HK receiver based from your posted messages.
Actually, I had bought na a pair of BOSE 301 bookshelf speakers 2 years ago na po. I was impressed by its sound that time. Credit due na rin sa magaling nilang salesman nila that time. Until now,sa component ng roommate ko pa po ako nakikikabit ng speakers ko :)
With the problem of what receiver to buy, I have one more thing to do that I think you cool guys could help me with-that is to find the other speakers (center,rear and subwoofer) that would best match with my 301(as front speakers) and HK135.
I listened to the Bose VCS 10 center and Bose surround speakers pero parang may kulang po sa sound output nya.
I've been to JBL showroom at Megamall,and they have recommended JBL (CSR series po yata yun) as well as Infinity Primus Center and Surround Speakers but can't decide as of the moment.
I hope you could help me with this problem of mine,gurus. My budget sana is P35k max for sub,center and rear speakers. Thanks in advance....
Sir hanns1976, based on your subwoofer posts (21" DIY sub), akala ko medyo may sayad ka na ngayon. :D
Mabuti naman at nasa matinong pag-iisip ka pa rin pala! ;D ;D ;D
to pinoydvd members in singapore or who have been to singapore:
mas mura ba kung jan ako bibili ng HK avr or dito na lang sa pilipinas? how about warranty and customs issues? any experiences sir?
BTW, the 235 here in manila is about 26k.
thanks.
i need a reciever, i am considering hk products. kaya lang 2ch lang balak ko. speaker is wharfdle diamond 9.6. wat recommend nyo reciever. tnx
Been there to singapore for a while and indeed mas mura ang mga electronic gears doon except sa speakers ha? (medyo over price sila). For AVR, Denon and Yamaha ang nakita kong brands na mura doon. Imagine AVR 1906 @ 19K Php value against 24-26K dito sa pinas. Doon ko nga nakita yung 3807 na ibinebenta na nila sa commercial market Almost all audio gears has an average of 6K Php ang difference dahil mura ang tax nila roon basta galing ng Malaysia and Indonesia. HK by order daw . At kung iuwi mo dito sa pinas yung equipment , I wouldn't think na magkakaroon ka ng problem, carry on baggage lang iyan at 1 tem lang. Denon,Yamaha and HK have international warranties, kaya kung mgkaroon man ng problem in the near future, dalhin mo lang sa nearest service center iyan....
In addition, may refund ka pa nga na 5% of sales tax (GST) upon checking out the country if accumulated purchases exceeds 200 SGD applies only to tourists.
i need a reciever, i am considering hk products. kaya lang 2ch lang balak ko. speaker is wharfdle diamond 9.6. wat recommend nyo reciever. tnx
guys planning to have a stereo setup for the meantime. planning to get hk 235, any idea ano speaker bagay dito? tried listening it with an ae evo1 and it souds great. any idea kung bagay din dito and dali or monitor audio? ano ba counterpart ng evo1 sa dali and monitor audio? i need your feedback. tnx!
guys planning to have a stereo setup for the meantime. planning to get hk 235, any idea ano speaker bagay dito? tried listening it with an ae evo1 and it souds great. any idea kung bagay din dito and dali or monitor audio? ano ba counterpart ng evo1 sa dali and monitor audio? i need your feedback. tnx!
guys planning to have a stereo setup for the meantime. planning to get hk 235, any idea ano speaker bagay dito? tried listening it with an ae evo1 and it souds great. any idea kung bagay din dito and dali or monitor audio? ano ba counterpart ng evo1 sa dali and monitor audio? i need your feedback. tnx!I also have a 235 and I heard it paired with Dali C1, MA B2, AE Evo1 and Infinity Primus 160.
Guys! Malaki ba difference ng 335 as against sa 235? Value for money ano ba mas worth? Gano ba kalaki difference nya sa pricing and performance? Thanks!
Paano ba gagawin small ang speaker settings pag naka analog connection.
Default nya kasi LARGE hindi ko ma set sa small.
Paano ba gagawin small ang speaker settings pag naka analog connection.
Default nya kasi LARGE hindi ko ma set sa small.
Pwede bang gamitin as an outlet iyung nasa likod ng HK 235?
Mabilis kasing uminit ang HK 235
Im planning to put a fan and connect it sa outlet at the back ng HK 235.
I found the 235 a bit bright. The manager of JBL told me that the 335-635 is warmer (its got more power and different chipset) than the 135-235.
sir, sabi sa brochure ng HK, pareha lang ang chipset ng 235 and 335. its a Cirrus CS 49400 32-bit DSP processor.
and ang power diff sa 235 and 335 is 5 watts per ch lang. personal preferences lang talaga magkaktalo.
Cheers!
crossover setting question din po...
Pano po ang tamang crossover settings kung wala pa kong sub?
crossover setting question din po...
Pano po ang tamang crossover settings kung wala pa kong sub? Fronts, center at surrounds pa lang meron ako. Euros 8 po lahat. HK135 avr ko. Parang masyadong nagtatake over po kasi yung center eh, parang lahat ng tunog inaako nya.
Large ang fronts tapos lahat small na.
sa Sub, L+R
salamat po!
Without a sub there'd be no crossover to talk about. Just use LARGE or disable the receiver's sub output.
sir, i dont know about the 135, but the 235 has individual crossover settings for fronts and center.
i used the OSD function to set my fronts and center to to large. crossover settings for fronts is set to 60 and the center is default to 100.
by the way, i dont use a sub kc kuntento na ako sa bass ng floorstanders ko so i designated the LFE settings to fronts.
Sir knefut salamat sa reply. The 135 has individual xover settings din. Parang di lang ako sure kung tama ba ung xover settings na nilagay ko kasi parang di tama. Pareho tayo walang sub, pero hindi ako kuntento. Wala pa lang ako budget pambili hehe.
60hz - fronts
100hz - center
? - surrounds?
? - Sub?
Sir ang prob ko talaga yung center. Parang lahat ng tunog kinukuha nya. Parang humina din yung tunog ng nung nilagay ko ung center speaker. Ano po ba tamang individual crossover setting sa Fronts, Center at surrounds kung wala pa kong sub?
Paano ba gagawin small ang speaker settings pag naka analog connection.
Default nya kasi LARGE hindi ko ma set sa small.
regarding analog connection, I observed parang humihina ang tunog and may echo effect when I choose this setting. How about you guys?
just bought hk235 and diamond 9.5 kahapon, for stereo listening lang muna kasi setup ko.
tanong lang po, bakit parang may kulang pa sa sound when i tested it. iba sound nya compared o when i auditioned the unit.
ano pa ba kelangan ko i adjust, currently setup on "large" speaker and 2 speaker stereo. coax/optical conection.
medyo manipis and mahina bass nya.
just bought hk235 and diamond 9.5 kahapon, for stereo listening lang muna kasi setup ko.
tanong lang po, bakit parang may kulang pa sa sound when i tested it. iba sound nya compared o when i auditioned the unit.
ano pa ba kelangan ko i adjust, currently setup on "large" speaker and 2 speaker stereo. coax/optical conection.
medyo manipis and mahina bass nya.
In my experience, I have heard HK635 and 235 being used on Infinity Beta HCS. Mas manipis/matining ang 235.
And it was a blind test bec. I didnt notice that the 235 replaced the 635 (w/c I auditioned a week ago) that day. Only when I complained about the "matining" did the salesperson piont out that we were using 235, instead of the 635 w/c I auditioned earlier.
pero sir the na inaudition ko yung 235 and diamond9.5, hindi naman sir manipis yung tunog. is it possible nga siguro na yung wire. and siguro "break-in" na yung HK nila. or probably tune in na rin.
how about 235 users using FS, any other idea?
What wire (wire guage, brand) are you using? Whats your room size and acoustics (curtains, cement walls, etc.) ?i dont know the brand name, but it also from where i bought the 235. baka nga wire ang problem, medyo maliit nga, it looks like generic, compare dun during the audition.. change nga siguro ako ng cable.
When I was a newbie, I used 16ga wires & lower. Now I use 12 to 11 ga wires. There was a time I had the chance to use my old 16ga again for a temporary setup and it was then I noticed that the sound was indeed so (obviously) "manipis" so I switched back and forth to the thicker wire guages to confirm this observation.
Do you have a sub. Kung wala, turn it off. I'm sure there's a big difference. Btw. Congrats! That's a nice setup.no sub, just the front speakers. anyway sub, center, and surounds are already turned off. how about yung mga x-overs, pano ba sesetup?
just bought hk235 and diamond 9.5 kahapon, for stereo listening lang muna kasi setup ko.
tanong lang po, bakit parang may kulang pa sa sound when i tested it. iba sound nya compared o when i auditioned the unit.
ano pa ba kelangan ko i adjust, currently setup on "large" speaker and 2 speaker stereo. coax/optical conection.
medyo manipis and mahina bass nya.
also make sure you set the speakers to large, since you dont have a sub set your crossover to 60hz.
@spy45cal
235 and 9.5 din ba setup mo bro? pareho nga tayo. kaya lang stereo lang setup ko. only using front speakers.
cge nga try ko palitan yung wire. san ba bro mura wire na 12ga? mahilig kasi ako sa mga mura, kaya kung saan mura dun ako. hehehehe
affected ba performance if using long speaker wire? how long is the ideal for fronts?
sir, meaning the xover settings in the osd for fronts are useless because they are for the sub only? ??? ??? ???
oo nga pala, set the LFE settings to fronts pala. this may help.
next in line... change the wire to 12ga and bi-wire. last na yung acoustic treatment. (wala pang budget hehehe)
I agree.yup at last gumaganda na rin yung tunog. about biwiring, actually dito ko lang rin narinig sa pdvd yun e, pareho din naman yung idea compare sa normal connection. parang naging complicated lang. but the effect... i dont know.
Congrats, sir boss_sa_boss. Kuha mo na ang settings. Next is wiring, then konting room acoutics. Hindi rin ako naniniwala sa bi-wiring, no effect siguro. Sa bi-amping naman, may effect talaga, pero baka lalong pumangit ang tunog.
pinuyat kayo ng bago nyong avr sir ah! he he heoo nga napuyat tlaga ako, sarap kasi kalikutin pag bago yung gears hehehhe
pero dun sa size ng wire based on this link (courtesy of spy45cal) http://www.roger-russell.com/wire/wire.htm, may audible difference daw.
actually setting the fronts to large means they will get the full signal, so whatever xover settings should only affect the signals going through the sub.
b0ss_sa_b0ss: does it still sound thin when played in pure stereo mode?
Ibig sabihin ba nito kapag naka set sa large ang speaker baliwala na ang xover ng avr?parang ganon nga yata, i dont hear any difference when i tried changing xover from default(100) to 60.
Another thing is, ginagamit lang ba ang xover when you have a subwoofer?
parang ganon nga yata, i dont hear any difference when i tried changing xover from default(100) to 60.
Makikisabat lang mga bro, Na-try ko na small ang setting ng fronts ko without a subwoofer, may difference nga ang tunog but my question is ok lang ba na small ang setting ng speakers without a subwoofer(wala pa pambili)?
Bro, if you do that, you're effectively eliminating all the frequencies below the set crossover of your avr, which is unacceptable.
However, isn't it that you can't set your fronts as small if the sub is set to off in the avr?
Mga kapatid, may way ba na maadjust ko crossover settings na walang OSD? Naka component kasi ko eh walang OSD pag component. 135 pala avr ko
Remember the Philips Bodega sale guys? HK 130 and 230's are on SALE there till early June.
Around 18k yung HK230. Check em out.
Bro danrd tnx!
Siguro RCA cable na lang gagamitin ko kasi yun lang meron sa extra cables ko.
Pero wala ba talagang way para ma set ang crossover settings pag walang osd?
"APPLIANCES & GADGETS BODEGA SALE FIESTA"
MAY 30 TO JUNE 2, 2006
9:30AM TO 7:00PM
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FOR MORE DETAILS,
PLEASE CALL ABCI 750-7336/ 750-3794/ 0922-8124233
AVR-130 Harman/Kardon Audio/Video Receiver 5.1 ch 15,900.00
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AVR-135 Harman/Kardon Audio/Video Receiver 6.1 ch 15,900.00
mga bossing, im newbie sa HT...kasisimula ko palang mag set-up...medyo magulo pa utak ko about these gadgets..point is...i've heard a technician in a high-end audio/video store here in cebu city that HK's has a habit of "tripping"?...says that power is automatically shutdown by the AVR if di na makaya ng receiver pag drive sa speakers...will somebody please explain me this tripping issue..i was really rooting for a HK130 or 135 since that incident i've changed mind in getting a denon...thanks...btw..this is the most knowledgeable site ever...i hope i'm not wrong.. ;)
mga bossing, im newbie sa HT...kasisimula ko palang mag set-up...medyo magulo pa utak ko about these gadgets..point is...i've heard a technician in a high-end audio/video store here in cebu city that HK's has a habit of "tripping"?...says that power is automatically shutdown by the AVR if di na makaya ng receiver pag drive sa speakers...will somebody please explain me this tripping issue..i was really rooting for a HK130 or 135 since that incident i've changed mind in getting a denon...thanks...btw..this is the most knowledgeable site ever...i hope i'm not wrong.. ;)
mga bossing, im newbie sa HT...kasisimula ko palang mag set-up...medyo magulo pa utak ko about these gadgets..point is...i've heard a technician in a high-end audio/video store here in cebu city that HK's has a habit of "tripping"?...says that power is automatically shutdown by the AVR if di na makaya ng receiver pag drive sa speakers...will somebody please explain me this tripping issue..i was really rooting for a HK130 or 135 since that incident i've changed mind in getting a denon...thanks...btw..this is the most knowledgeable site ever...i hope i'm not wrong.. ;)
korek si Mat, malamang hindi nila carry ang HK at Denon ang product seller nila... bro HK is one of the best HT AVR in the market today, most of the time competition sila ng Yamaha...
nope..they carry a lot of high end brands...almost all...its the feedback of the customers here...(or yung nakabili ala ring alam..hehe)araming sinuli daw na HK at pinalitan na ibang brand...Errr, thanks sa reply mga boss...i guess this safety feature is in all high end AVR's?...i recently got this jbl scs 200.5 from other dealer and told me to get HK 135 for compatibility...is it really necessary to use HK AVR 135 or would it likewise go well with other high end AVR's? ;D
"APPLIANCES & GADGETS BODEGA SALE FIESTA"
MAY 30 TO JUNE 2, 2006
9:30AM TO 7:00PM
FORMER PHILIPS HOUSE
106 VALERO STREET, SALCEDO VILLAGE,
MAKATI CITY
FOR MORE DETAILS,
PLEASE CALL ABCI 750-7336/ 750-3794/ 0922-8124233
AVR-130 Harman/Kardon Audio/Video Receiver 5.1 ch 15,900.00
AVR-230 Harman/Kardon Audio/Video Receiver 6.1 ch 18,900.00
AVR-135 Harman/Kardon Audio/Video Receiver 6.1 ch 15,900.00
re tripping...
have an hk325..had it 'trip' a couple of times..
ng inobserbahan ko e dahil sa sobrang init ng amp...proper ventilation lang ang kailangan...
after nun wala na...buti nga may ganung feature ang hk..at least di masisira yung amp o yung speaker mo ;)
pero kung sinasabi nila na pangit yung ganung feature..e di ako bibili sa kanila hehehe
sana man lang e inexplain pa ng mas maayos at di yung sasabihin na lang "di na kaya ng receiver idrive yung speaker".
how about 2 channel recievers naka sale din ba ?
I installed a SCS260.6 for a friend but partnered it with Yamaha. Masakit sa tenga yung combo.
Better siguro with HK but you might not need higher end models to drive your SCS 200.5. But I would recommend HK235 para may pre outs. In case you upgrade your speakers to bigger ones in the future, you have the option of putting power amps.
Sa " Tripping " or Protect mode ng AVR
Madalas ko maexperience to. I believe hindi excessive heat ang prob eh kasi nilagyan ko na sya ng 6 fans na magkakadikit sa ibabaw ng avr pero namamatay pa rin. all euros 8 setup ko 6 ohms yun. Pag -8db ang volume at medyo action packed ang scene bumibigay sya. I just switch it on lang agad tpos medyo hihinaan ko ng onti mga -12db. Ok na ulit.
just like what ive said before, from my previous post, "dangerous loads" (4 ohms or lower)... your amp doesnt need to heat up before it "tripps off". if it is loaded with an unacceptable load it will reset, if still problem persist your amp will either burn out or will short out your speakers...
bro anong AVR mo? parehas tayo ng speakers (Euros 8 system) gamit ko Yamaha RX-V995, kahit nasa 11.5 o'clock na yung volume pot hindi bumibigay, basta naka set yung imp switch ko sa 4ohms or higher...
AVR135 bro. Although masyado nang malakas para saken yung -8db na volume, sinusubukan ko lang para malaman kung hanggang san sya puwede. Kung puro bulung-bulungan lang at dialogue ang movie, pwede siguro hanggang 0db hindi mag proprotect mode hehe.
Sa " Tripping " or Protect mode ng AVR
Madalas ko maexperience to. I believe hindi excessive heat ang prob eh kasi nilagyan ko na sya ng 6 fans na magkakadikit sa ibabaw ng avr pero namamatay pa rin. all euros 8 setup ko 6 ohms yun. Pag -8db ang volume at medyo action packed ang scene bumibigay sya. I just switch it on lang agad tpos medyo hihinaan ko ng onti mga -12db. Ok na ulit.
bro sanction214, suggestion lang...
the best way for you to have your ideal HT is to have your own identity on your OWN HT, yung mga feed's info namin dito is just a guide lines, pero still the best way is to audition it yourself, like Mat'z example yung Yamaha JBL combo masakit sa tenga niya, baka sayo hindi or maybe yun ang hinahap mong system. if given a chance yung shop na bibilihan mo ay may wide range of AVR selection. kung yung JBL SCS 200.5 ang talgang kursunada mong speakers, better audition mo yung na pupusuan mong AVR together with the JBL, tapos kung ano yung best na sound reproduction sayo, yun na yun. kase most AVR's have the same fuctionality, its just upto the end user ang decision, plus the final word is your own contentment and satisfaction of entertainment... ;)
Guys, ano ba yung trippping issue about HK? Kinakabahan tuloy ako, Pano ba malalaman kung nag tripping yung avr baka kasi na encounter ko na pala yun di ko pa alam...
TIA
Guys, please help.
Why is the OSD feature of my HK AVR 135 does not work with my plasma even after checked 3x the connection of cables? But when I tried it with a 17" samsung flat tv it works.
Tama naman lahat ng cables connections. What do you think is the reason why is this kind of thing happening? Hmmmmm.....
bro yun yung bigla nag shutoff yung AVR mo nag rereset yun then nag tuturn on ulit. wag ka kabahan safety feature ng AVR ito. almost lahat ng AVR's regardless of brand meron nito....
Ahhh oki... So far wala pa ko na encounter na ganun... Minsan kasi habang nanonood ako may biglang pumutok na parang watusi pero isang putok lang. I'll check the avr and the connections ok naman lahat, wala namang amoy sunog na goma or what. Inulit ko nga yung scene na pinanonood ko baka sa movie lang pero hindi e... Takot nga ako akala ko pumutok yung avr ko but so far di ko na sya ulit naririg...
Thanks sir hanns
baka voltage spike yun, naka line conditioner kaba or voltage regulator?
Ano naman yun voltage spike sir? normal lang po ba yun?
Im using yaden avr 1500-VA, wala po ako line conditioner...
TIA
its normal, present ito sa lahat ng power lines. pero kung naka AVR ka no problem, maari yung narinig mo is sa TV. normal lang yun sa CRT TV's...
Sana nga sa tv sir... BTW, im using japan surplus 28" wide screen. Thaks sir hanns...
ayy si TV nga yun sir, ganyan din na expirience ko before sa surplus TV...
shet, really like the DSP part. kaso i love the HK's aesthetics! hard choice to make!
how about its power? if i use 4 ohm speakers, malakas naman siguro yung 55 watts @ 8 ohms diba?
actually i use 4 ohm floorstanding speakers. at -20db, malakas na para sa akin.
no reklamo on the avr. sa manual, meron. he he he
gamit ko nun yamaha, pero nag fade din yung interest ko sa DSPs hanggang sa DTS and Pro Logic na lang gamit ko when watching movies or listening to music. but kung hilig mo talaga DSPs, go for the yamaha 657 sir.
Reading the encyclopedia..ay ..este, manual of the HK lead me to this expression a lot of times : ??? ??? ???
Hi,
To the HK235 users, ano yung mga comments nyo sa receiver na to? any "reklamos"? i am really inclined to get this model (or the 240 if it comes out soon locally). Initially got interested in HKs because of its appearance. Thus, i need some comments with regards to its features and limitations.
Really would like to hear from you guys!
Thanks!
re tripping...
have an hk325..had it 'trip' a couple of times..
ng inobserbahan ko e dahil sa sobrang init ng amp...proper ventilation lang ang kailangan...
after nun wala na...buti nga may ganung feature ang hk..at least di masisira yung amp o yung speaker mo ;)
pero kung sinasabi nila na pangit yung ganung feature..e di ako bibili sa kanila hehehe
sana man lang e inexplain pa ng mas maayos at di yung sasabihin na lang "di na kaya ng receiver idrive yung speaker".
shet, really like the DSP part. kaso i love the HK's aesthetics! hard choice to make!
how about its power? if i use 4 ohm speakers, malakas naman siguro yung 55 watts @ 8 ohms diba?
Mga Bro, am using HK 135 with Bose AM7 and 3 Bose model 100 at rears. Recently Im experiencing this tripping or resetting (Blue light turned orange). I thought maybe the power plug were loosed. I just pushed it off then after some seconds, pushed it on again and it works. Am just quite worried, is this some sort of symptoms of a major problem to come. Can anybody from HK explain this. Mine is still within warranty, Is our unit needs servicing before the warranty expires? I haven't done any major change in my setup except upgrading to Samsung R71 LCD TV and Toshiba HDMI DVD player. Any advice from HK users. Will try using an AVR, hope this arrest the problem.
My problen pati is wala akong spl meter and wala ako tiwala sa tenga ko lang when it comes to calibration...
That's a very big problem. No SPL meter and can't trust your own ears. I suggest you find an SPL meter. Personally, I also would want one but the only SPL meter I saw at 5th ave Park Square cost a cool 20T+. ;D
That's a very big problem. No SPL meter and can't trust your own ears. I suggest you find an SPL meter. Personally, I also would want one but the only SPL meter I saw at 5th ave Park Square cost a cool 20T+. ;DRadioshack SPL meter is just $40 ata...grabe yung 20T... :)
Radioshack SPL meter is just $40 ata...grabe yung 20T... :)
wow grabe naman yun sir... pagkatapos once or trice mo lang gagamitin just to calibrate your HT setup... By the way, totoo ba na hindi accurate yung spl meter sa remote ng HK 235 or feeling ko lang???
TIA
I think we share the same feelings hehehehe. Seriously, I get weird values/settings when using my HK230 SPL sa remote. Values also change with every pass I make :P. So my verdict is that it is not very accurate.
Radioshack used to carry one for around 2T if not mistaken. Too bad they had no stock and then closed shop at Park Square. The 20T+ that 5th Ave carries is for professional use which is why it's so expensive.
How much do you guys think should I pay for this amp. The owner doesnt know how to price his amp.
mga bossing,
magkano latest price ng 235 o 335?
I think 235 is 23K and 335 30K (cash price sa digital dreams sm cyberzone) may 20% discount daw sila ngayon... Bili na bili na... Parang gusto ko nga mag upgrade ng 335 e... Hehehe...
Guys, How do you calibrate your HK with your EZSet? What volume are you using?
TIA
the manual says that you have to place the volume level to -10dB which is very loud. kaya hanggang ngayon d ko pa nagamit yung EZSet function kc baka ma evict ako sa condo..... ;D
Medyo malakas na nga yun sir e, so how do you calibrate your system?
TIA
congrats pare! nakakahawa sars ni sir Dan...
getting the itch..... ;D
I'm sure it'll drive your Aurum Cantus very well. :)
Definitely!
Congrats pare on your new toy pare! :)
HK330/335 & up are best for floorstanding speakers, lalo na yung mga 2 woofer models.
nahahawa na rin ako, pag balik ko sa Pinas.... HK naman dagdag ko hehehe! congrats! danrd!
Thanks pre. I command you! Bili na! ;D ;D ;D I'm sure it'll drive your Aurum Cantus very well. :)
sir, fortunately for my pocket, the itch went away as i remembered the 235 has pre outs and all i need is a power amp if i need it louder.
ok na rin power ng 235 for my aurum cantus sir. masyado na malakas at -30db.
Dont forget to consider the processor, not just the power. The better processors also contribute to the overall experience.
Thanks Master Matz. :) No regrets bout it. Pero kung alam mo lang. Di mawala yung hinayang ko na san yung 635 mo nakuha ko. :'( Inisip ko na lang - Maybe in the near future. :)
Dont forget to consider the processor, not just the power. The better processors also contribute to the overall experience.
Yes, correct. 235 and 335 has the same processor, but different amp section as I was told.
I actually was referring to higher models 435/0 or 635/0 (dual 32-bit processors). I experienced it kasi recently at their showroom in Megamall with the Infinity Beta HCS 5.1 speakers. These are just very small bookshelves and a sub , but when powered with the HK630, they sounded like floorstanders! I came back to listen to it again after a few weeks and I was wondering why it sounded thin and didnt have the UMPH anymore.
When I looked closer, I realized that they were using a HK 235. It was a blind test since I didnt know the amp being used. The salespeople said its not just the power but also the processor of the higher series that make up the wide floorstander-like sound.
So I just wanted to share this knowledge that I learned about receiver processors. (To clarify) I dont mean to put down any model, but only to objectively point out what I learned.
I am curous what you mean by "umph." Having dual or multiple digital and higher bit processors result in better detailing and noise floor advantages. Also, just FYI, blind tests have little worth if the amps and speakers tested are not level-matched to within 0.5db. If at all, the perceived"umph" difference can also be attributed to the power disparities and volume/speaker settings. ;D
hello po sa inyong lahat.. (my first post) :)
i need your help.. planning to get the following:
HK AVR235
Wharfedale 9.6
Wharfedale 9.CM
Wharfedale 9.DFS
Velodyne CHT-12R
well-matched po ba yung mga speakers sa avr? or do you have any other combo in mind? will be using this for 50% HT and 50% audio.. thanks in advance!
My weekend was really great! :o Tried and tested my new 335 and the result was outstanding. Ang lawak ng tunog (makapal as others may put it) Listeninglevel was playing along -30 to -20 lang (depende sa dvd quality) at the max on my setup. ;) Creeping bass was also evident. Galing talaga ng HK.
gud am bro, how much did you get your 335? saan din po? planning to get yammy 659, gusto ko ng mg upgrade from my receiver of 3years[rxv440], kaya lang habang binabasa ko itong thread, and surfing the net regarding hk335, mukhang sulit din to!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D
now, im at a lost :-[ :-X :'( ;D
thanks
@knefut
thank you for the info sir..
i visited architectural audio a while ago and auditioned the DALI concept 6.. for me it has a richer sound than the wharfedales.. parang mabayo kasi sa pandinig ko yung wharfedales e, or maybe its just me.. and the best part of it is that the HK AVR135 is enough to drive the concept 6, center, concept 1, and concept sub speakers.. sound quality is superb even at low volumes (i prefer SQ than SPL).. though i haven't tried using the velodyne sub (10" lang meron sila kanina).. i think this setup should be enough for my requirement, besides maliit lang naman talaga yung room.. sa tuwa ko pina-reserve ko na ung DALI speakers.. just waiting for the new HKs to arrive (hopefully next month).. planning to get the AVR240 instead of the AVR135 :)
bro,
sent u PM u may consider :)
thanks nga pala to chad, nico, and epoy for accommodating me.. more power to you guys :)
Pre 31.5K at Spectra. Look for Jose or Jim. Great guys. :) I was a Yamaha user before. I really love its dsp's. It's one of my major adjustments when I shifted to HK. But i never came back at Yamaha soon as I got used to HK. I've learned to love the "PURE SOUND REALISM" of HK. But that's just me pre. Ala pa rin tatalo sa audition. :)
@knefut
thank you for the info sir..
i visited architectural audio a while ago and auditioned the DALI concept 6.. for me it has a richer sound than the wharfedales.. parang mabayo kasi sa pandinig ko yung wharfedales e, or maybe its just me.. and the best part of it is that the HK AVR135 is enough to drive the concept 6, center, concept 1, and concept sub speakers.. sound quality is superb even at low volumes (i prefer SQ than SPL).. though i haven't tried using the velodyne sub (10" lang meron sila kanina).. i think this setup should be enough for my requirement, besides maliit lang naman talaga yung room.. sa tuwa ko pina-reserve ko na ung DALI speakers.. just waiting for the new HKs to arrive (hopefully next month).. planning to get the AVR240 instead of the AVR135 :)
thanks nga pala to chad, nico, and epoy for accommodating me.. more power to you guys :)
how much will the AVR 240 sell here?
will there be noticeable difference between the 240 and the 235 aside from the bridge?
The generic one doesn't have a digital out? The 235 has 2 optical/2 coaxial inputs.
Sir yung sa akin meron optical and coaxial out (unikon) yun nga lang walang DTS... Pwede ko ba ikabit sa cd input ng receiver ito thru coaxial o dapat cd player lang ang dapat isaksak sa cd input ng receiver?
sir av_phile 1,
pano po yun? ang meron lang po sa generic dvd player ko is optical out, coaxial out, component out, regular rca out and 5.1 out.
If you use any of the player's digital output, the processing will be done by your receiver instead of the player's onboard decoders. Sa madaling sabi, you get DTS.
If you use any of the player's digital output, the processing will be done by your receiver instead of the player's onboard decoders. Sa madaling sabi, you get DTS.
Bro, i tried this using nextbase 656 dvd player (walang dts decoder) hooked it up to HK avr135 using optical out. Wala pa ring DTS sir. Tried it also sa Daewoo DVD player na walang DTS, wala rin. When i tried naman sa pioneer dvd player ko, nagkaroon ng DTS. So i guess kelangan ng DVD player na may DTS decoder maski may receiver.
Based on the downloaded manual of the HK235, it has 2 optical ins and 2 digirtal co-ax ins. So your pioneer DVD player can connect to an optical and your generic to another optical or coax since, as you said, the generic has both.
Alternatively, since your generic also has 5.1 analog output, it can also connect to the 235's multichannel analog input.
If you connect the DVD player's stereo out to the 235's CD input, you won't get discreet 5.1 DD signals, just stereo signals which can also benefit from the Prologic processing of the receiver.
My main problem is kung pwede ba ikabit sa cd input ng receiver ko yung dvd player ko na unikon(generic) as cd player either coaxial, optical or analog(red and white rca) connection...
Thanks
This is my set up sir:
dvd player(pioneer) ---- optical input of receiver (for HT purpose)
dvd player(generic) ---- cd input of receiver (for music) what connection po ang best sa tingin nyo
thanks
This is my set up sir:
dvd player(pioneer) ---- optical input of receiver (for HT purpose)
dvd player(generic) ---- cd input of receiver (for music) what connection po ang best sa tingin nyo
thanks
If you use any of the player's digital output, the processing will be done by your receiver instead of the player's onboard decoders. Sa madaling sabi, you get DTS.
Bro, i tried this using nextbase 656 dvd player (walang dts decoder) hooked it up to HK avr135 using optical out. Wala pa ring DTS sir. Tried it also sa Daewoo DVD player na walang DTS, wala rin. When i tried naman sa pioneer dvd player ko, nagkaroon ng DTS. So i guess kelangan ng DVD player na may DTS decoder maski may receiver.
Guys i have 2 dvd player one is pioneer and the other one is generic only...
Question:
pwede ko ba ikabit sa hk235 ko ung isang dvd player(pioneer) ko sa dvd input using optical cable and yung generic dvd player ko sa cd input using coaxial cable ng receiver?
Thanks
Planning to get the jbl scs200.6 and hk135 sa abensons.. ok pa rin ba na combo to ?? my budget is limited, kung may suggestions kyo na mas ok please feel free to do so ... :D
tnx in advance .
Like I said, your generic can also connect to your receiver via optical, regardless of whether you use it for music or for HT. I would connect it via digital, knowing that the HK AVR would have a better decoding and DAC processor than a generic player.
Sorry po maam pala... anyway, maam siguro po mag RCA ka na lang. Wala kong naririnig na difference pag optical/coaxial compared sa RCA lang eh for audio. Mas mura pa yung cable. I'm not sure lang po siguro kasi untrained lang ang ears ko
pipol, may service center b HK dito? Im not sure if my question has been asked in the previous pages or can be found somewhere... ;D, thanks
Sir sa Beyond Innovations (unit B4 Topy's Plate, Calle, industria, Cor. economia St., Libis Q.C.
Hope this help...
so, tama ba? kahit walang built in dts decoder yung dvdplayer basta connected digitally sa avr na may dts decoder pwere ka pa rin manood using dts mode?
e paano kung sa 6 channel direct input connected ganun rin ba?
Planning to get the jbl scs200.6 and hk135 sa abensons.. ok pa rin ba na combo to ?? my budget is limited, kung may suggestions kyo na mas ok please feel free to do so ... :D
tnx in advance .
so, tama ba? kahit walang built in dts decoder yung dvdplayer basta connected digitally sa avr na may dts decoder pwere ka pa rin manood using dts mode?
e paano kung sa 6 channel direct input connected ganun rin ba?
Bro mahal sa abenson. saang abenson ka ba tumingin? How much yang combo?
Sir sa Beyond Innovations (unit B4 Topy's Plate, Calle, industria, Cor. economia St., Libis Q.C.
Hope this help...
Tnx for the reply sir AV, sir Mat....
I'll run a test this Sat, will only hook the 2 B&Ws and see what happens...
I hope this doesn't need another repair... :'(
Tnx again...
guys,
got my first receiver... a 235.
tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.
sulit..
thanks for all the inputs dito thread.
guys,
got my first receiver... a 235.
tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.
sulit..
thanks for all the inputs dito thread.
guys,
got my first receiver... a 235.
tried to pair it with a wharfe 9.5, but i thought its more than what i need, so I got a 9.1 instead.
sulit..
thanks for all the inputs dito thread.
Mga bros, question lang.
Sa tingin nyo, ano mas magandang combination sa sound quality lang? Hindi na kasama yung features ng AVR like preouts etc..
AVR235 + Wharfedale 9.5 / 9.6 (6 ohm speakers , higher wattage avr)
or
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)
Gusto ko lang po malaman inputs nyo mga gurus. Salamat!
Danrd! Ikaw makakasagot nito. Nasubukan mo na both HK 135 & 335. Ano masasabi mo sa difference? :)
Bong, I suggest get the higher models for floorstanders. I have a friend who bought a 235 for his floorstanders and bitin daw.
Kung sa sound quality lang, almost the same ang amp section ng 135 & 235. But iba na ginamit nilang amp for 335 up. Kaya sya mas mahal kahit 5w lang difference. So you would hear a better sound quality only at 335 & up.
AVR235 + Wharfedale 9.5 / 9.6 (6 ohm speakers , higher wattage avr)
or
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)
Danrd! Ikaw makakasagot nito. Nasubukan mo na both HK 135 & 335. Ano masasabi mo sa difference? :)
Bong, I suggest get the higher models for floorstanders. I have a friend who bought a 235 for his floorstanders and bitin daw.
Kung sa sound quality lang, almost the same ang amp section ng 135 & 235. But iba na ginamit nilang amp for 335 up. Kaya sya mas mahal kahit 5w lang difference. So you would hear a better sound quality only at 335 & up.
Yes I actually have pmed bong reg this. And I think he went for it and bought the Missions. I experienced the same scenario. I really felt the VERY BIG difference in upgrading speakers at 8ohms.
My survey says:
AVR135 + Mission m34 (8 ohm speakers, lower wattage avr)
Yes sir danrd thanks for input. You're a big influence po talaga sa decision ko. Wala eh IDOL eh!
Meron pa po ba may experience na ganito?
Bong, I suggest get the higher models for floorstanders. I have a friend who bought a 235 for his floorstanders and bitin daw.
Tama si Danrd bong. Dapat SULIT moves mo every step of the way. I would go for the Missions without batting an eyelid. I have heard the Wharfe, they are good speakers, but its not to my listening taste.
Baka masayang kasi pag nag 135 ka and you might get the upgrade itch someday. Better get a good receiver and be happy with it for a long time. Pag on a budget ka talaga, My least recommendation is stretch your budget a bit, get a 235, then save up for a power amp (marami sa buy & sell section).
I'm glad you're happy with your decision. Enjoy mo muna yan then go for Velo pag may pera ka na ulit. The important thing is sulit ang moves mo every step of the way. ;)
Thanks ulit sir. Yung velo matatagalan pa yun for sure hehe
Don't hurry for a sub. Believe me, your floorstanders are quite enough for now. Sometimes mas maganda pa nga walang sub kasi no booms. Basta floorstanders, you'll get clear highs and mids. ;)
Oops. sowee, I forgot. heheh :). Kala ko kasi sa tanong mo 235 + wharfe or 135 + Missions eh bibili ka pa lang ng AVR.
sabi ng mga napag tanungan ko..wala naman daw pinagkaiba yung 135 at yung 140..yung ipod dock lang ang nadagdag..sa tingin ko lang naman...hindi lang naman cguro yung ipod dock yung nadagdag.."opinion ko palang to kahit hindi ko pa na audition" :)
Mga sir, I'm choosing between an HK-AVR435(sale at $479.99 regular price is $999.99, free shipping) and a Pioneer VSX-1016TXVK THX Select ($446.74 inc. shipping) .I won't be able to auditon both because it's online.What do you guys think ?
So if i'm going to get the HK 435, i might as well get the Infinity Primus 360 floorstanders since they came from the same company.They should be a perfect match, tama po ba?
Is Harman Kardon good for ouputting stereo sound (audio cd's , vinyls if ever)?
1. Are there additional settings that I need to tinker?
- not really, but I prefer setting tone defeat to ON (this disables bass & treble controls of the HK avr so what you should get is the sound from the source with no processing)
2. For example, I use stereo mode of HK does it mean that it is using the digital connection or the analog one?
- stereo can be used with either the digital or analog connectionS with a dvd player or cd player (but only with analog for turntables)
- for CD player i prefer using the analog connections, this way the DAC being used is that of the cd player
3. What are the differences ba if I use one over the other?
- analog connection you use the source player's DAC, with the digital connection you use the HK avr's dac
4. Would it be preferrable to have those both analog and digital setup?
- depends on your preference :)
Baka all channels driven kaya mababa. If recall correctly (from the audioholics forum), the mid level Denon 3805 (example lang po) is actually 70wpc, all channels driven. Ngayon kc popular yung 100+W x n channels na misleading naman.
to all the pple using h/k, what speakers r u using for front?
can 340 drive bnw 603 s3 FS? will it sound good..?
please give me advice on this 1.. thanks!
thanks MAtZTER! what front speaker r u using for your 635, rotel combi? how much is the rotel power amp ur using.. well maybe i would get the 603 and then upgrade later on for a rotel as u advice.
sayang kc yun offer 2nd hand bw 603.. 2 months lang daw kc nagupgrade ng jm focal. is it safe to buy 2nd hand speaker? what do i check with this to confirm that it is in good shape? btw, who is SGT and what is BS, IMO? sowee a newbie hir and to this hobby!
thanks agen MAtZTER! can i see your setup..?
just talk to the supplier of bw speakers.. sabi nya hk and bw will sound bright daw! and he offer me the onkyo 703 for the 603 para mas match daw and the wattage would be sufficient. im now considering to sell my hk for the onkyo.. just use this for 2 weeks hindi p araw araw! sayang!
please comment on harman being bright with bw speaker.. thanks!
well actully ur ryt! ganun nga sya mag comment on other products that they dont sell. pata paradigm bulok daw..
anyway, il be bringing my hk tom sa west ave. to audition the bw speaker and see if it is really bright.. abt the rotel power amp, it is way off my budget. too much for now.. maybe in the future. so hard to decide on this setup!!
IMHO= in my honest opinion, SARS aka upgradititis....sakit sa urge bumili o mag upgrade ng gears
what is imho? and sars...? ??? :-\
Sure, go to the HT gallery or click here (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=42114.0). :)
LOL, I know which dealer you are talking about. That dealer would bad mouth horribly every single product that he is not selling himself and give never ending heavenly praise to all the products he is selling.
B&W and Onkyo are from the same distributor here, thats why they recomend the 2 together. So obviously there is a bias in their recommendation. But according to Ricky who has an Onkyo, Onkyo's are very musical, but dont tend to excel in HT.
Thats why I love talking to SGT and getting his recommendations, WALANG BIAS. thats what I mean by NO BS.
My no BS advice is retain the HK340, retain it and use the B&W's with it , if you arent content after some time, go for the power amps. there are also lots of cheap 2nd hand amps when the buy & sell section opens again, but Rotels are recommended.
HK's bright? HK's are known to be warm, specially with the 330-340 & up models which use a different amp than the brighter sounding 230-240's.IME, HK's pre outs are ok with external amps (not bright).
alx...be careful getting "BS"ed.... ;D
IME, di bright ang 235 with my floorstanders. Even Archi Audio uses the lowly entry level 130 when you audition their gears. and i didnt even find the 130 bright with their dali FS.
meron din akong nabasa dito na and SARS also means Speakers And Receivers Syndrome ??? ???. Basta sa takot ako sa SARS. :-[ :-[ ;D
I mean its brighter than the upper series but not necessarily bright sya. Mas warm yung 330-630. I have experienced this at the JBL showroom in Megamall with the same speakers, HK630 one day, and HK235 on another day (di ko alam na 235 nakakabit), the brightness was the first thing I noticed. Pero kanya kanya din yan sir, iba iba tenga natin. :)
Czed! kamusta na pre. Gusto sana kita gawing example kay ALX.
Bro, alx. Czedryk uses a very powerful HK630 to drive B&W 600's bookshelf speakers. Sa lakas ng HK630, sure na kakanta yung 600's. :)
Also, Our mod Levi uses HK330 to power B&W 601's
.... and, maybe foremost, iba iba budget natin.... he he he
Czed! kamusta na pre. Gusto sana kita gawing example kay ALX.
Bro, alx. Czedryk uses a very powerful HK630 to drive B&W 600's bookshelf speakers. Sa lakas ng HK630, sure na kakanta yung 600's. :)
Hi sirs!
Just a question.. I have listened to HK demos and all but I would need opinion on which speakers does it match well.
Can you give me comparisons of speaker brands (floorstanders) that match well with the Harman Kardon 330 series given that I listen to stereo music and HT movies.
OT Question,
For a 10sq m room is it ok if I get a floorstander?
Good morning guys, kelangan ko ng clarification regarding sa mga digital path receiver nagugulihan ako eh. Yung mga DPR ba actually ay AVR din? ang difference lang daw ay yung DPR iba ang loop sa AVR, wala na daw digital to analog conversion ang mga DPR digital to digital na kaagad hindi tulad ng mg AVR na yung digital signal gagawin pa analog. Kung ganon bakit may mga analog input ang mga DPR ibig sabihin ba nito analog gagawin nya digital tapos analog ulit? At hindi ba yung mga optic cable digital to digital na rin ito, wala na conversion na nangyayari?
Thanks
Bookshelf or single woofer floorstander is Ok for a 10sqm room. 2 woofer floorstanders might be boomy in such a small room.
HK's warm sound match well with almost all known HiFi speakers...Monitors, Missions, JBL's, Wharfes...even B&W bookshelf speakers (601 or 600).
Here's a thorough explanation of class D or switching amps and its operations that I just glossed over. If you have more youthful patience understanding it, read it through. ;D
http://sound.westhost.com/articles/pwm.htm
Do you have brands (as well as Model Numbers) for Bookshelf or Single woofer floorstanders?
Hi sir Mat :)
Oks naman ako, medyo over-worked lng (matindi pangangailangan e... ;D)
Yup, super-satisfied ako with my HK630/B&W601 combo... Even at high volumes mganda p din sound quality... 8)
just wondering y didnt you go for bw 602? m planning to buy 602 for my hk 340..
nagpademo ako ng mga speakers with my eyes closed.. widawt knowing what speaker it is iv noticed that the tweeter of b&w 602 is bright, mdyo masakit sa tenga.. while paradigm monitor 5 is more clarity than the bw. nagtest din kame ng studio 20 and i choose this 1 over the 2.. still hav to demo it agen to my amp kc denon integrated ang ginamit namin..
ANYONE WHO WANT TO SWAP WITH MY HK630? SOBRANG PANALO KAYO DITO COZ NDI KO TALAGA NAGAMIT. 1 MONTH BAGO KO SYA NABILI DUMATING UNG ISA KONG AVR. PRICE 67k SRP
HARMAN KARDON HK630 SWAP ------> PREFER KO
ROTEL 1075
OR
B&W 602S3 PLUS LCR600
THANKS AND GOD BLESS
An idea struck me... since your budget is for floorstanders (FS) - Why not get the mid level bookshelf (BS) speakers of the same brand? They sound a lot better (very refined) than their entry level counterparts...and almost the same price as the entry level FS.
Example:
Monitor Audio B4 (ent FS) ---> Monitor Audio RS1 (mid BS)
Mission M34 (ent FS) ---> Mission M51 (Mid BS)
B&W 3something ---> B&W 601's
etc etc...
Sir have you decided which one to get?
kinuha ko na ung 602 s3.. what ive noticed is dat parang may kulang sa sound, parang pigil and also di vocals parang bitin. when i demo this sa shop, un sound buhay na buhay sa buong room.. pag dating sa house ko iba! not sure f sa speaker cable kc sa raon ko lng nabili.. or kulang hk 340 2 power 602. or hindi p break in. iv bin using this for 8 days na prbbly 3 hrs a day.. pls help me with this 1. thanks!
Sir Matz... ganyan din ang experience ko until now... yung unit ko are compose of 235/infinity primus 360 although i'm only using stereo by now... b4 i purchase my units from d store, impress me sa sound quality inside the store but then, wen my units are at home already, parang iba na ang tunog... although pag mahina kasi around 30-35 db, ok pa sa pandinig ko pero pag 25db and below, medyo distorted na sa pandinig ko.. (i'm playing a music cd's only such as disco, r&b, opm, love songs from mp3s and original cds)... possible kaya dahil yung house me are all concrete (roof-wall-floor) at 12sqm?... di ko pa din nagagamit yung ezset ng avr ko ksi di ko maintindihan yung manual eh (english kasi)... Also, pls give me some idea regading sa settings ng bass/treble at wat particular range... basta me kasi, naka-set lang sa 4'clock yung tone knobs me... Sir, nu ba din dapat me gawin on how to make my room to be in acoustic set ups (ung mura lang...joke!!)...
sir newbie, how long does it takes to break in my hk? iv bin using this amp 4 maybe 1 month now with my old speaker.. everyday use of approxim8ly 3hrs per day.. ano pala speaker mo setup with ur avr 235?
actuali sa showroom they use onkyo 901 + onkyo na dvd player.. i did demo the 602 with my hk sa shop but cant remember how it sounded. i use only nextbase dvd player using monster coax. ang wall namin is cement with wallpaper while un ceiling is may kahoy p.. also our sala is full of things tables etc. maybe i will take a pix den send it 2 u sir Matz, kung ok lng den make a comment. or pwede ko rin sya ilipat sa room ko..
is hk 340 underpower for bw 602 s3?
Sir let me give my honest analysis. :)
1.) Primus 360 is a HUGE speaker for your 12sqm. room. Chances are it will be boomy, as was my experience with my 12 sqm room w/ 3 driver FS (Flrstndr) . Chances are the boominess will be distracting or it will eat up the mids and highs. Bookshelves or single woofer FS should have been enough for a 12sqm room.
2.) A HK230 powering a 4 driver Primus FS of that size? I think it may be underpowered kaya sometimes you feel you hear its distorted. What AVR model did you hear at the showroom? The guys at the JBL showroom once let me hear an HK630 and on another day I didnt know that they had a 235 connected to the same speakers. The differences were immediately obvious despite not knowing what AVR was connected. Pareho kasi itsura lahat eh.
Allow me to share what I wrote in another thread:
Dont fall into the very common "just get any entry level AVR and get a floorstander" approach without considering the power factor needed for floorstanders. Chances are a bookshelf spkr thats well powered by a good receiver will sound better than an underpowered receiver trying hard to power a multi-driver, bigger cabinet space floorstander w/c requires more clean power for it to sound its best.
I have been trying to correct this a lot lately cuz I see this as a very common error everywhere: underpowered floorstanders. I know that not everyone can just grab a high model receiver and a FS at once since they are costly, but at least they can buy the right combination. Bookshelves being the safest...since most probably the subs are going to handle the LFE naman.
3.) All concrete? Naku problema yan. Add lots of curtains and fabric, but that would absorb the HF only. LF reverbs are the ones eating up your mids and highs. Try adding Bass traps. You can look for Manny Ongpauco thru your friendly neighbothood HT dealers. He sells reasonable priced acoustic treatments, but do test it first. I still have yet to try & review his product's effectiveness myself.
Sir Matz... thanks in many for enlighting me.... actually yung unit ko din ang ginamit ko sa store for demo b4 i purchase it... maybe bcuz yung store is acoustically modified kaya siguro lahat ng units pag nai-demo sa customer eh maganda talaga at ma-aapreciate mo ang sound quality ng product... acually sir, kaya ganyan ang binili kong set-up kasi guato ko ng blasting... yung tipong maririnig ng kapit-bahay (yabang ba)... kaso, disappointed me... anyway, andyan na yan eh.. right now ang 1 probs me is yung room space ko... how will i make my room to be acoustical... i will try to put some cork board (boards wat u see inside a radio station)... yun ba tawag dun???.. those boards kasi is use to minimize the amount of distortion inside a certain room... ile-lessen yung noise ba... 1 un sa mga paraan ko to appreciate my set up... di ko nga lang alam kung san makakabili nun.... once again sir matz thank you.... God Bless You Sir!!...
pareng jhun kulang yan sa calibration hehehe. sayang hindi mo na napakinggan yung bw 303 ko malamang mas match pa yon sa floorstander mo
sa bass lang cya kapos pero pag may sub naku panalong panalo ka na. pare kung gusto mo talaga malakas yung maririnig ng kapitbahay mo at magrereklamo kailangn mo talaga sub pare.yun sigurado reklamo kapibahay mo. may center kana ba & rear? baka wala pa kaya walang blasting.
pare curtain lang & fiberglass na ibalot mo sa tela yung ginawa ni munskie ok na yun pang acoustic treatment.
sir Matz, sensya na kc m new to this 1 ndi ko p masyado alam.. pero ndi ko rin sure kung anu mdl ang gamit nila.. hinulaan ko lng ;D
btw, how do i send a pic to you pala sir Matz..?? ???
Sir ok yun ah... very nice idea... try ko nga din yung fiberglass na binalot sa tela... kung curtain marami me kaso yung surroundings ko talaga ang problema kasi puro gawa sa semento yung haus ko... a 3m x 4m with 1 room extension (open door/ wooden wall division), another factor is also proper positioning of my equipment... actually sir, di ko pa talaga na-e-explore yung unit ko 'til now eh... i think pwede din naman yan i-calibrate kahit 2ch lang gamit ko kso di ko alam gawin... yung manual kasi parang magulo intindihin (english eh)... di ko alam kung lasing ang gumawa o ako lang ang lasing.... plano ko na din bumili ng sub di december pa (12' sub) pero yung center & surround next tym na lang muna ksi more on music lang gamit ko.... many thanks ulit sir sanmig... maganda 'to daanin na lang muna natin sa SANMIG, sama natin si sir Matz.... korek???....
sir newbie, how long does it takes to break in my hk? iv bin using this amp 4 maybe 1 month now with my old speaker.. everyday use of approxim8ly 3hrs per day.. ano pala speaker mo setup with ur avr 235?
actuali sa showroom they use onkyo 901 + onkyo na dvd player.. i did demo the 602 with my hk sa shop but cant remember how it sounded. i use only nextbase dvd player using monster coax. ang wall namin is cement with wallpaper while un ceiling is may kahoy p.. also our sala is full of things tables etc. maybe i will take a pix den send it 2 u sir Matz, kung ok lng den make a comment. or pwede ko rin sya ilipat sa room ko..
is hk 340 underpower for bw 602 s3?
Ok lang yun bro. Post mo na lang set up mo sa HT gallery. I can analyze from there. Aside from me, marami pang ibang willing tumulong. Ganyan dito sa pdvd.
Pero if your problem is lack of sonic characteristics due to using 2 different level receivers (high end vs mid level) mentioned above, Honestly I think the answer is already there and room acoustics wont be the solution.
Unfortunately, curtains and other absorbing materials treat the high and mid frequencies. Eh di ba yun nga yung kulang & kinakain ng bass? tapos kakainin pa ng sound absorbers... :(. You might need to move your speakers forward if they are too near the wall to reduce bass and if it still doesnt work, try spending for bass traps.
Remember, acoustics is very important in this hobby and it helps improve your listening experience. Even high end gears would sound crappy in a room with no acoustic considerations.
Medyo OT na tayo, baka mapagalitan :)
jhunB! I just remembered that I had this same problem the first time I had my HK. I forgot to change the setting for listening distance. Baka kasi your setting is at default, if its at 4m then the sound is better at that distance. Set it to your distance from speaker to sofa. Hope that helps. If not , ilayo mo speakers mo sa wall. If not, get bass traps. If not... If not.... ;D
Yah sori po medyo ot... anyway, on this matter, i am looking for short corrective action/s on how to at least fine tune my HK235 just to lessen the amount of crakky sound even on 2ch set up... hoping that even there's a mismatch between my equipment and my current room, baka lang mapaayos ko ng konti sa tulong ng nakakarami... maybe there's a short solution/s w/o spending. I am not convince through reading at the manual coz its too complicated to understand... If also performing calibration of HK235 would be a solution even using 2ch, pwede kaya 'to??... actually, natatakot me gawin yun kso baka magakamali me in exploring my system at di ko na maibalik sa dati kaya kayong mga experts me nagtatanong becuz of your experiences.. hope anyone here will teach me the proper way of calibrating my system... Sir sanmig, hope u can help me too.... Many thanks to everyone....
Yan din ang iniisip ko.
Instead of buying a power amp i'll go for stereo amp.
Mas madali when I decide to go on a separate system.
Im planning kasi to put the audio sa room and HT sa sala.
For now in case I decide to buy one tanggal bunot na muna.
And mukhang mas practical sya in terms of electric consumption.
Isa lang kasi ang ipa-power mo unlike pag power amp + avr dalawa lagi.
Our amps naman are class AB: meaning they are efficient and draw power only when needed. So when you are listening to mild music that only requires 20w, it gives only 20w. OTH, class A amps (nasa high end na to usually) gives the whole power rating EVERY time, kung 100w, it gives a whopping 100w constantly...yan tataas bill mo. ;D
pareng jhun audition mo setup ni pareng newbie alam ko lapit lang cya sa rockwell. naka hk235 cya & bw 602, dun mo macompare kung anu diffrence
ng hk sa ibang speaker. sabi mo sakin dati sa yosian solve ka na sa hk combo 8) advise ko sayo since may pre out yan ad ka na lang power amp & for sure gaganda pa lalo setup mo yun nga lang another gastos pero ganun talaga ang hobby na to magastos & enjoy ;D
malupet ka naman sa calibration eh ;D
ayos ka talaga sanmig... kasama pala kita dito sa paligid ko... lam u naman kung ano kina-calibrate ko eh... kso sa AVR nasisira yung expertice ko.... kelangan lang sa HK ko siguro final dispo ng engineer... ok yung units ko pero ayaw nya sa bahay ko... di ma-appreciate ng equipments ko yung bahay ko eh kasi squater lang... he he he!!!...
pre nu kaya magandang gawin ko??.. parang gusto kong mag-down-grade ng speaker from FS to BS... wat du u think ??? ???... pwede kaya ipa-trade-in ko sa binilihan ko?? ???
Malaki-laki rin yan. 120 watts for 30 days is 86kwh. Depending on your bracket, that's around P500 per month. ;D Assuming you only listen to it half that time, you're wasting P250/mo. But, barya lang yan for the rich and famous. ;D
pare im not expert here ;D anu ba trip mo ht o audio? kung ht, BS & a pair of good sub solve ka na dun.sub na mag drive ng LF.
Sir Mat,
Salamat, convinced naman ako sa mga sinasabi mo dahil naeexperience ko rin.
Actually ready na ako at go na go na ako sa HK335 36990 less 25% pa. Approve na ni misis may budget na. Kaya lang may 135 pa ako sayang naman kung dalawa pa AVR. Tama rin yung sinabi mo dati na lugi ka talaga kapag nagbenta ka ng gamit...lalo na kung ang rason mo eh upgrade.
May hinahanap lang talaga akong tunog sa audio na si ko ma explain. ehehehehe ;D
salamat :)
di ko alam kung sino mas magaling 335 or 659
sa digital dreams sm north edsa, cyber zone. yung naka display nila less 20% lang ata. sabi sa akin, sakin lang daw niya ibibigay yung 25% less (secret lang daw). Sige nga sir, dalawin mo ng para malman natin kung minamadali lang nila ako. hanapin mo allen uy.
3 units na lang daw yun reserve na yung dalawa.
salamat
I really want to know kung ano talaga ang pinagkaiba ng US brand sa Japan brand
I really want to know kung ano talaga ang pinagkaiba ng US brand sa Japan brand:)
same question din po, planning to upgrade... any suggestions where we can audition discounted AVR's like HK? ??? ??? ??? TIA :)sir,
Kung happy ka naman pala sa HT and may hinahanap ka lang sa music. Why not buy a separate integrated stereo amp instead? Medyo tyaga nga lang sa tanggal-bunot (use banana plugs). Baka kasi yung price difference ng 335 baka makabili ka na ng integrated amp. And alam ko below 20k yung integrated amp ng HK: 120w pa :o :o :o.
IME, iba pa rin yung dedicated audio setup. Mas critical pa rin kasi music, so an integrated stereo amp built (specialized) for music will perform better than a multichannel AVR built for both.
Usually mga high end pre/pro (separates) lang ang kaya mag perform ng both HT and music na maganda. Accdg to the net, the Arcam is the cheapest one at $2,100 and pre amp processor pa lang to...WALA pang amplifier!
Hirap lang nga yung tanggal bunot ng 2 setups. Pero worth it for me. :)
jhunb, sent u PM. just follow the instructions and ok na yan. I had a very similar experience before when my HK was new. Akala ko din may palpak, yun pala I just forgot to set the listening position distance.
Hello Sir Matz... thank u very much for accommodating your time for me over the phone... I followed ur advise for my HK.. i adjusted the delay for LS/RS to 1.5 m and also i adjusted the level from +4db to 0db... medyo naging soft yung tunong... al little bit better... pag naka-up yung output level ng speaker medyo boomy ang tunog so parang basak na pag nsa -20db... i-adjust ko din xover from 100khz to 55khz since yung 100khz settings ksi is for bookshelves daw as per SM appliace showroom (naka-usap ko kasi yung demo guy dun)... hopefully, ok na yung set up ko for now... maybe i will add a SW na lang to drive low freq properly... then next na lang siguro yung center & ss... ;D
pag naka-utang ulit... ngek :P....
Sir thank you ulit... ganda pala boses mo sa phone.... nakaka :o... PAUTANG!!! ;D ;D ;D... JOKE!!!
Hello Sir Matz... thank u very much for accommodating your time for me over the phone... I followed ur advise for my HK.. i adjusted the delay for LS/RS to 1.5 m and also i adjusted the level from +4db to 0db... medyo naging soft yung tunong... al little bit better... pag naka-up yung output level ng speaker medyo boomy ang tunog so parang basak na pag nsa -20db... i-adjust ko din xover from 100khz to 55khz since yung 100khz settings ksi is for bookshelves daw as per SM appliace showroom (naka-usap ko kasi yung demo guy dun)... hopefully, ok na yung set up ko for now... maybe i will add a SW na lang to drive low freq properly... then next na lang siguro yung center & ss...
pag naka-utang ulit... ngek ....
Sir thank you ulit... ganda pala boses mo sa phone.... nakaka ... PAUTANG!!! ... JOKE!!!
sir,
you could drop by our store to audition the avr's at parksquare 1
You guys can try Acoustical Space in Megamall, or Architectural Audio in Greenbelt 1, good service naman sila ;)
LOL ;D. Glad to be of help to you. Bedroom voice mode pa lang yun. Pag office mode may dala pa akong latigo sa background. Whapak! ;D
You dont need to use the crossover settings since you dont have a sub yet. And for your room size & speaker size, you might not need subs anymore. But if you do get a sub, you would be passing the very power hungry LFE load to the sub.
LFE kasi eats up a lot of power, so if your AVR is not powerful enough, chances are hirap na sya pagdating sa MIDS & Highs. Getting a sub and setting your speaker setting to "small" eases that load from the AVR. Mas lilitaw yung mids & highs. But sayang yung FS, a BS can also do this effectively w/ a sub. Again, this is why I recommend high model receivers for FS, para di "kapos".
In my setup, I use 2 channel (no sub) only for my FS when listening to music, speaker setting large. For HT, I set it to "small" and the mid range and highs are really crisp.
MAtTZer: I have MA B2 speakers.
Talaga lang sir ha!! ;)... may gulpi d' gulat yung boses mo pag pagn-office modulation ;D... anyways, another pla ko once i've got an SW is to disable 1 woofer on my FS... i dont know if dat is possible but i will try someday... u'r correct acutally, sayang yung FS ko talaga kung ganun ang setting ko for my FS... but for now, medyo ok na, a little bit satisfaction for stereo listening.... Planning to get a higher HK model is not my current plan ryt now, completion of my set up is currently my target... (how ???)... para ma-enjoy me naman yung complete HT equipment...
Sir Matz, hope someday, u'll allow me to visit u and demo to me your gears... i wish to see how powerful & attractive ur set up... d kaya ma-bading ako sa mga gears mo ???.... joke ;D... sama ko si sanmig, kasama ko dito sa opis yan... Regards & thanks!!! :) :) :)
I have heard Yamaha 650 w/ MA B2's (sister's setup). Ok naman.
I have seen many MA B2 setups used with NAD BEE. Havent heard it though. But if many people use it, maybe its good. Audition it yourself.
Sorry Jhun. It was really not my intention to suggest a change of gears, but the info was intended more for readers who are starting their setup :). Basta you are happy with your setup, thats good enough. You dont need to change anything. :)
Sure, come with sanmig someday. :)
may nakagamit naba sa inyo ng receiver na ganito?? anong comments nyo?? parehas lang ba sila ng 235? ipod dock lang ba advantage ng 240??Thats what they say parehas lang.
Bros,
Those who go the AVR 240 do you have issues on the AVR shutting down or activating protect mode? Sabi kasi ng iba yung HK235 parang eto and issue. I wonder kung ganun din and 240.
I will be purchasing a 240 this afternoon. I'm just checking here to see if there are any similar issues with the 240.
Im using an HK235 and didn't experienced any of the above mentioned issue.
what to get 335 or 240?
what to get 335 or 240?
Guys,
I just upgraded my yamaha 557 to the HK AVR 335 the other day...and WOW!
Sounds Fantastic!
If you want 5 watts more power per channel get the 335, if you value Ipod connectivity more, get 240. I got the 240 coz its the one available. I just need the pre-outs.
240 around 25,700 while the 340 is a little over 31K
how much HK AVR 7300? tnx
whre did you get Hk avr240? because last time i ask 29500
which is a good model of HK for a beginner like me? yung entry level lang.... im in Singapore now and I would like to check out the price here in Adelphi near Funan.... planning to pair it would 2 book shelf speakers for now.. para pwede ko pa maiuwi pag gusto ko na balik sa pinas. also which speaker suits best?
i will just be using it for my room to listen on my cd collections and watch some dvds.
thanks guys!
I would recommend sana, IME, the HK AVR-340 kahit starting ka pa lang. Buti na yung sa ginta ka na ng product line mag simula, IMO, coz you get a taste of some of the features of the higher end models and you are already a little bit above the entry level product line.
Kaso baka sayang yung features ng HT receiver if you prefer 2 channel audio most of the time and watch few DVD movies only. For that scenario, and if you're really into HK gears, go for one of their integrated amps, like the popular HK 630 (if it is still available for sale) or the latest HK 970.
Is there really a big difference between HK 235 and HK 335? What is the better AVR for this 7.1 speaker setup: Wharfedale 9.5 (fronts), 9.CS (center), 9.dfs (surrounds), 9.1 (rear), SW 300 (sub)?
Is there really a big difference between HK 235 and HK 335? What is the better AVR for this 7.1 speaker setup: Wharfedale 9.5 (fronts), 9.CS (center), 9.dfs (surrounds), 9.1 (rear), SW 300 (sub)?
nag babalak akong bumili ng HK med level, saan kaya mura at magkano. nga kasama patulong namanarchitectural audio, spectra all in makati sir.
salamat
nag babalak akong bumili ng HK med level, saan kaya mura at magkano. nga kasama patulong naman
salamat
^ just read 2 post above your post. hehehehe
san po b makaka bili ng HK dto sa manila un murang bentahan?
made in san pla? ty
you can also try to acoustical space at megamall (5th flr) from where i brought my hk235 last oct 1995. good service din sila dun.. like scofield said, nabola na din nila me sa store nila kaya dun na din me bumili... makipagtawaran ka na lang sa sales rep... like me, hk 235 last oct 1995, the selling price is 27k+, i got it for 25k only, other stores they gave is at 27.5k or 28k discounted to 26k.. lowest deal na yung binilihan ko... thats the only benefit you can got to yourself ang makipagtawaran... gudluck!!!
nakaka time travel ka pala to 1995! ;D
Wala pang DTS ata noon at prologic pa model ng HK dati.
Baka 2005 ibig mo sabihin. :D
pare tagal na nun ah 1995 ;D wala pa ako nun d2
sir question lang anu pong mid level avr ang HK ?
340 b? anu po ang model na value for money? tnx
SORRY PO!!! TAO LANG... 2005 PALA.. :D :D :D... 1995 onwards eh puro banat lang alam ko...
sabi ng mga nakarami hk 240 & 340 considered to be mid level...
How much na ba ang HK 340 ngaun? ano difference ng 240 sa 340? may HDMI connections na ba mga ito?no HDMI connections for both models, more power po ang hk340, price ranges from 30k to 32k. ;)
sir question lang anu pong mid level avr ang HK ?
340 b? anu po ang model na value for money? tnx
Bro,
For me, there are a lot of things to consider before we can say that a particular product will be a good value for your money. We can mention here the cheapest product, but if it will not suit your need or your preference the cost or the savings for that matter will not be worth it.
For one thing it will be helpfull to mention the size of the room where you plan to setup and use the AV receiver. Then, there are other points to consider like, are you more into HT or Audio as well. Would you like your system to be used for both or just for movie viewing? Of course you have to consider the speakers you currently have that will be connected to the receiver. What are the speakers' brand and/or specifications? If you don't have speakers yet, what are your choices for it? Are you into portable gadgets as well like IPods? And of course there is the budget question. How much are you willing to spend for your AV receiver? Do you have an HDMI ready viewing system? If not, what are the connection options available for video?
These are just some things I can think of from the top of my head which will help us indentify for you if a receiver wil be suited for your needs, and hopefully be able to refer good stores that can provide a reasonable price.
I believe that all of us here are always after what we refer to as "value for money". However, for most as well, there has to be a baseline or criteria which helps in the decision for purchasing a product. Only then can we say that the purchased product is worth the saving or the cost.
Please provide more information so you can be assisted in your query much better.
What's the best AVR/speaker system for an HT > Music setup for a room about 5x6x4 meters (WXLXH)? I'm thinking of upgrading my setup to an HK (300 series) + Wharfdale (9 series).. Is this ok?
nakaka time travel ka pala to 1995! ;D
Wala pang DTS ata noon at prologic pa model ng HK dati.
Baka 2005 ibig mo sabihin. :D
What's the best AVR/speaker system for an HT > Music setup for a room about 5x6x4 meters (WXLXH)? I'm thinking of upgrading my setup to an HK (300 series) + Wharfdale (9 series).. Is this ok?
Bro,
Ang medyo malaki ang HT room mo. Kung HK340 (which is the latest in the 300 series) ang choice mo, maganda nga, pro baka mabitin ka. If you really prefer the HK340, then we recommend adding a power amp. You can also try higher model HK receivers. Too bad you did not specify your budget. But if you can stretch it out a little, go HK645 or 745.
Regarding the speakers, your choice is good. But if really wanna make them singe, provide them enough power to drive.
How much na ba 645 or 745 dito sa Pinas? Is it available na ba dito? Budget ko around 40 to 50K for the AVR...Sir,
Sir,
Price for the 645 is 84800, 745 is 185400
If you do not mind pre owned, there was someone selling a HK630 before at the B/S section(aside from me, I sold mine) at your budget. I am all praise for this AVR, excellent in music & HT.
I also sold a same class HK AVR (HK5550, 2003 model) for my migrating friend for only 28k!!! Somebody was clever enough to grab the deal right away.
If your current receiver has pre outs, just get a Rotel RB-1075 5x130w power amp w/ you budget. Your music & HT experience will blow you away. You can even go for the Wharfe 9.6 w/ such a powerful amp.
no luck. :-[ just tried resetting the system, but problem was still there. all the 3 optical inputs seem to be dead. currently using analog connections.
yup. have been using the optical inputs for a long time na, 1 for my dvd player and 1 for my xbox360. bigla na lang nawala yung sound last week. the system doesnt seem to recognize the connection because when i choose the optical input, lumalabas "unlock" sa osd. pati yung optical input sa harap ng system hindi na rin gumagana.
yup. have been using the optical inputs for a long time na, 1 for my dvd player and 1 for my xbox360. bigla na lang nawala yung sound last week. the system doesnt seem to recognize the connection because when i choose the optical input, lumalabas "unlock" sa osd. pati yung optical input sa harap ng system hindi na rin gumagana.
You can also try using the Optical cable to another equipment (if possible), para lang ma rule out yung possibility na yung cable yung problem. :)
ayaw talaga. tired it with another dvd player and optical cable, pero wala pa rin. already brought it to beyond innovations this morning. thanks for your inputs guys.Sir Kamusta na Harman mo?
Hi everyone! I am a new user of HK receiver.
Would like to know if the flip down panel of AVR630 can still be repaired and where can i bring it for repair. The problem with the panel is that it stays open and can't be closed anymore. The unit was bought in the U.S kaya hindi ako maka-claim ng warranty dito. So far, I am happy with the unit and no problem encountered except for this minor one. TIA :)
Sir Kamusta na Harman mo?
Beyond Innovations in Libis. 6344790
Good! pwede ka na ulit mag enjoy! ;D ;D ;D
just got my hk avr back from beyond innovations and...it doesnt work!!! pero i tried it there before i left and it worked fine. im sure that something was wrong with it because when i brought it in, hindi rin gumagana nung tinest nila. ano kaya nangyari dito? ??? meron ba kayong alam na home service repairs for hk? just so that id be sure that it would work with my setup. :(bro baka dapat ma check din kung ano issue sa set-up mo. baka may nag so short or something. kaya pagbalik mo, baka nasira ulit.
bro baka dapat ma check din kung ano issue sa set-up mo. baka may nag so short or something. kaya pagbalik mo, baka nasira ulit.
In short, dapat ma check yung set-up mo at baka yan ang root cause ng issues with your AVR
(nabiktima si AVR)
Meron pa ba stereo receivers HK that are available? Thanksyes sir meron pa rin po
i will be acquiring another AVR for my HK 235....I think the 750 watt is enough.
this will be dedicated to my HK only since
my LCD, DVD player & CD player already
have its own AVR....
how big an AVR would i need?
is a 750 watts AVR enough? or do i need a 1000watts AVR?
TIA !!!
Spectraav,sir,
Is the HK 970 a stereo receiver or an integrated? Does HK still have an integrated?
Kindly send me PM as to the price. Thank you
What entry-level AVR can you suggest for a Hi-Fi set-up? And what speaker's good to pair it up? Thanks!
Approximately
(Max power consumption X 0.45) / # of channels
In the rare case where the unit’s operation or the displays seem abnormal,
the cause may involve the erratic operation of the system’s memory or microprocessor.
If the system is still operating incorrectly, there may have been an electronic discharge
or severe AC line interference that has corrupted the memory or microprocessor.
If these steps do not solve the problem, consult an authorized Harman Kardon service depot.
wow, thanks sir slayer. this is a beast to lug around... so i might try to do the battery replacement myself. tamang-tama.... i might reconfigure my system in a few days so i will open and inspect the unit to see if it is in any way accessible.
Why are Harman Kardon amplifiers so much more powerful than amplifiers with the same power ratings that are made by other companies?
A Harman Kardon 50-watt amplifier will sound better, louder and cleaner than most 100-watt amplifiers from other companies. The reason is very simple. We give "true" wattage ratings, and our amplifiers utilize something called High-Current Capability (HCC). Please see the comparison below for further explanation. Other companies (100 watts):
Many companies have found new, convenient ways to get "big" wattage ratings on their amplifiers. They may take one frequency or tone (1kHz) and push it through one channel of amplification. This way the power supply only needs to supply power to one tone and one channel (no one listens to one tone through one speaker). This is not a difficult task for a power supply, so you get a nice, high rating like 100 watts. Now let's feed that one tone (1kHz) into 2 channels. Now the power supply has to supply power to 2 channels. The wattage rating is drastically reduced. Now let's take that one tone and make it ALL tones (pink noise). The power supply now has to supply power to all frequencies in both channels. Again, the wattage rating is drastically reduced. Now, your 100-watt amp is suddenly 50 watts (approximately).
Let's take it one step further. When you turn the amp up and begin to average the 50 watts of power, what happens to all of the dynamics/peaks in the sound? It can't get any louder, because the amp has hit its "ceiling," so the sound gets "clipped." The human ear typically can?t hear this clipping because peaks pass by so quickly but, nonetheless, the dynamics are gone.
Our amplifiers (50 watts):
We still rate our amplifiers the old-fashioned way - all frequencies with both channels driven. So "50 watts" is 50 watts. Twenty-five years ago, a 50-watt amp was very powerful. These days you can go to a store and hear a "300 watt" receiver and it won't impress; it lacks dynamic punch.
Now let's take it that extra step. When you turn the amp up and begin to average the 50 watts of power, the amp still needs to put out much more power every time a snare drum, triangle, or movie dynamic (e.g., hand slapping a face) hits. Our amps are able to instantaneously put out 20-100 amps (depending on the model) of high current to the speakers, allowing those dynamics to come through loud and clear, without any distortion. This brings the overall decibel average up, making it seem even louder that 50-watts.
Guys,
I just upgraded my yamaha 557 to the HK AVR 335 the other day...and WOW!
Sounds Fantastic!
sir ano po ba ang mga speakers nyo when you were using the ym 557 and now with avr 335
[/quoteang set up po dati ni sir acostaml is hk335 and wharfe 9.4/9cs/dfs. yan din yata speakers nya nung naka 557 sya. right now hk630 na receiver ni acostaml ;)
Is Harman Kardon high current design really good or bad?
I have read from some threads that high current amps tend to heat up faster and consumes lots power even at idle.
If I can still remember, someone has sold his HK AVR because it's always getting into standby mode and many HK stereo receivers are sold refurbished online (maybe because of overheating problems?).
Although I have read many positive feedbacks about HK, I am quite hesitant just because of this.
Another thing is, I don't seem to read from any thread where the local service center of HK is. So it would be a problem where to bring your AVR for repair when it got busted?
No offense lang po sa HK owners, Im just curious.
I just don't want to make a mistake if ever I upgrade to an HK AVR. :D
Is Harman Kardon high current design really good or bad?
I have read from some threads that high current amps tend to heat up faster and consumes lots power even at idle.
If I can still remember, someone has sold his HK AVR because it's always getting into standby mode and many HK stereo receivers are sold refurbished online (maybe because of overheating problems?).
Although I have read many positive feedbacks about HK, I am quite hesitant just because of this.
Another thing is, I don't seem to read from any thread where the local service center of HK is. So it would be a problem where to bring your AVR for repair when it got busted?
No offense lang po sa HK owners, Im just curious.
I just don't want to make a mistake if ever I upgrade to an HK AVR. :D
Good for audio and HT but not as good as yamaha AVR in terms of HT. ;)
sir Matz,
ung HT Slam po ba e kayang solusyunan ng Power amp?
sir Matz,
ung HT Slam po ba e kayang solusyunan ng Power amp?
Same query here, Is it a great to pair HK 345 + 100W 5ch power amp to get a great HT slam? Will this config get near to the performance of HK 7300 which has 110wpc ACD power?
wow nakakainggit naman mga hk nyo. i will try to save up money for the new hk 340 i think that would be enough just for a new setup. im trying to check kung saan mura mamili ng hk. any suggestion guys at least makakatulong kung may suggestion kaagad.
There is a 2 cell button battery at the back of the front panel board.
Disclaimer: It's best this be changed by the authorized service center. You might break your AVR.
hi guys, do you know any local shops here in manila that currently sells the 247 or 347 AVRs? thanks :)
any updates on the batt replacement? I also have the same problem. I already opened the front panel but cannot find any batt.
i believe Architectural Audio already has the HK347 but the last time i was there to pick up my receiver, they have one thats to be picked up by one customer. just not sure if they have stocks already. maybe for order. ;) you can just contact chad, epoy or nico. hope this helps... ;)
thanks Ryan.. yeah, just got my 347 from them today.. :) i was already eyeing it for about 2 weeks now.. was hoping to look around for other shops baka i can get a better price, looks like sila palang meron dito hehe :)
Yup. I second that too sir ryan.
Kaya nga sa kanila ako bumili ng AVR340 last March. Umikot ako shops sa Makati, sila may pinakamababang price. Tried and tested ko na rin "after sales" service. One of the best if not the best in my experience.
Kaya nga pati Lovan stands at iba pa items sa kanila ko binili.
So far wala ako issues with the Harman. Working well.
congrats sa inyong mga may bagong HK.
Ganda ng bluelight ng volume knob sa dilim no? hehehehe
That's same observations by other users/owners of HK. Due to it's high current design it really tend to heat-up easily or more than other names, esp when idle like tube amps. preformance wise it's really good but you need to place it in well ventilated rack... MHO... ;D
Yup. I second that too sir ryan.
Kaya nga sa kanila ako bumili ng AVR340 last March. Umikot ako shops sa Makati, sila may pinakamababang price. Tried and tested ko na rin "after sales" service. One of the best if not the best in my experience.
Kaya nga pati Lovan stands at iba pa items sa kanila ko binili.
So far wala ako issues with the Harman. Working well.
congrats sa inyong mga may bagong HK.
Ganda ng bluelight ng volume knob sa dilim no? hehehehe
haha... same trepidation here. i can't imagine how they can ever get to the front pcb without messing up the wiring. i was just disappointed how the hk designers came up with that decision. what were they thinking, you ought to throw away your avr once the battery's gone kaput?
i was particularly having difficulties now having switched to front pj without a secondary monitor yet, so i don't ever try to switch off my avr now. i have the bass management set to 40/60/80 in F/C/S and it works well for me, but the default x'over once you switched off the unit is 100hz for all channels... and you can't access it without a monitor.
Yup. I second that too sir ryan.
Kaya nga sa kanila ako bumili ng AVR340 last March. Umikot ako shops sa Makati, sila may pinakamababang price. Tried and tested ko na rin "after sales" service. One of the best if not the best in my experience.
Kaya nga pati Lovan stands at iba pa items sa kanila ko binili.
So far wala ako issues with the Harman. Working well.
congrats sa inyong mga may bagong HK.
Ganda ng bluelight ng volume knob sa dilim no? hehehehe
have anybody tried (or auditioned) harman kardon stereo receivers? Are they ok for music? HK 3385 and HK 3485 at 80 and 120 watts respectively. Both channels operating at full-rated power according to their website. Looks good basing on the specs right?Anybody? Specs looks good, but are they even available locally? Amazon price is $250, pretty cheap eh.
Anybody? Specs looks good, but are they even available locally? Amazon price is $250, pretty cheap eh.
Good day! I am contemplating on getting a HK avr and I noticed that the price in the US is significantly lower. If I buy there, will they honor the warranty here? Can they repair (110v) it here? Are there any other problems I might encounter? Please share your opinions. Thank you!
Help naman!
What's the best setting when using 3 speakers (L C R) and a subwoofer. am currently using 6ch direct (AVR245)? TIA
even if you are using L C R or other speakers with Sub (also even FS with 6" less woofer still considered small) for HT better set them to all small so that the LF from all channels will be routed to Sub and all speakers will produce only mid - high requency sound.... ::) 8)
Maraming salamat sir! Now the bad news!!! sira pala yung SW :'( ko tagal ko na di nagamit ngayon ko lang natuklasan. I know its the amp side (velodyne) pwede ba disconnect yun then use the high level input?
Active Sub were designed to work properly with it's own power and active crossover, using it as passive may not work properly or unexpected result might happen. IMHO, not recommended. ;D
LCR speakers are medium sizes so for now you can set the L/R to large and C to small, just don't crank it hard specially on movies. ;D
thank you agen sir! ;D will sure do your suggested setting...wala pa moolah for a new SW...recommend naman po kayo mid level na SW
Hi Guys,sir,
Anyone here knows where can I buy remote control for AVR 130? Fade na kasi some buttons sa remote ko. :)
Thanks!
Hi all,
Maganda po ba ung Harman Kardon AVR 347? Im planning to buy it kasi eh. Papadala dito ung unit from states.
Ang nakita ko lang eh meron siyang HDMI at per-out ng speakers.
Thanks!
Check out the thread about avr Sir Gearhead discussed it there.
Go to the home menu and click General and you will find the voltage regulator.
My question is, would the AVR147 be able to drive a pair of Diamond 8.3's for the fronts/8.1's surrounds? My room is relatively small so I don't need anything loud :P
Waah gastos!
Just bought HK 3380 and Im contemplating between Mordaunt short carnivale, avant and wharfe 9.5. I was about to buy the wharfe, but I find it muffled. Anyone using HK and Ms combi here? how's the performance?
Thanks...
Hi boss busabos he he! MS ok naman matching with HK am using the declaration series na MS with my HK am happy with the combi. Try auditioning the speakers, if you can bring your amp to the shops much better nabili mo na naman yung amp, lalaki nga lang biceps mo ;D.
Sir Gearhead you have PM thx!
any updates on the batt replacement? I also have the same problem. I already opened the front panel but cannot find any batt.
Guys what can you say about AVR-245? Tag priced as 35K, I did a quick chat with the sales guy and I had him lower down the price to 28K just for me. hehe.
Do you think I should grab it?
sir may na search ako na murang nagbebenta.she was selling HK and JBL,AVR 145 sells for 15k AVR245 20k and JBL stage for 15k
here' the link.http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1265701 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1265701)
finally, after several months of inconvenience having to do the setup everytime i turn on my h/k 5550, i had my avr memory problems addressed. i already brought my unit to beyond innovations to have it serviced. if anyone would like to have their unit repaired for the same problem, cost would probably be less than P2,500. service charge kasi is P1,500 then add the spare part na lang. i had the power supply repaired din kasi so i don't know the exact amount just for the memory repair, but it shouldn't be more than P2,500. workmanship seems ok too. di naman kumalat mga wires sa loob or kinulang ng turnilyo pagkabalik.
location is just behind eastwood. in fact, dun sa street nila ang tumbok eh yung entrance to eastwood sa likod. coming from ortigas take the turn on the street just after monark (and before eastwood). me makita kayo malaki building sa left, turn left din. then sa 2nd gate on your left also, pagtanong nyo na lang saan repair shop ng JBL. ;)
sir may na search ako na murang nagbebenta.she was selling HK and JBL,AVR 145 sells for 15k AVR245 20k and JBL stage for 15k
here' the link.http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1265701 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=1265701)
So ok na pala ulit si HK mo Chief Gearhead. Enjoy ulit ang HT nyan ;)
Buti nalang may maasahan kang repair center ng HK dyan sa atin.
brand new ba ito sir? sobrang mura nyan if thats their selling price. good buy! :o
Mga sir pano po patayin yun standby mode ng HK? Im using HK 3380. Gusto ko kasi total shutdown pag-off ko, nakakabit kasi sya sa BADA line con with other components conneted at the same time (PC, TV, etc.) Masama po ba pag matagal naka standby ang receiver?
Thanks
naku... sana naman hindi... baka may tama IC nyan.... assuming ok naman lahat ng wire mo. wala namang nag short dyan?
wala na un. ubos na mga avr245. puro hk145 with jbl 5.1 nalang natira. I can get the avr245 for around roughly 28. thats less 20% sa srp. direct from the importers office. just send me a pm. cash transactions lang nga.
wala na un. ubos na mga avr245. puro hk145 with jbl 5.1 nalang natira. I can get the avr245 for around roughly 28. thats less 20% sa srp. direct from the importers office. just send me a pm. cash transactions lang nga.
ganun? punta ako. sure yan ha, sure nako to buy at 28k e, kung lower the better.
Guys,these are beefy AVRs...
Do u have any feedbacks abt hk avr2000 and hk avr 4000 (310)?
Which is better HK AVR4000? or Yamaha RXV-8000?
:)
Thanks in advance
I am getting an HK 3380 by the end of the month or early next month for a dedicated 2-channel listening.
Ok ba ito or may mas-better brands out there for the same price?
Advice naman po kayo jan.
TIA.
Question lang po HT enthusiasts. Does HK receivers do a good job in handling yamaha speakers? Or would you recommend yamaha receivers for yamaha speakers? Thanks!
Sir, san po makikita at ma-audi yung HK3380? How much po?
Anybody know the distributor of HK dito sa atin?
TIA
Sir, san po makikita at ma-audi yung HK3380? How much po?
Anybody know the distributor of HK dito sa atin?
TIA
Sir, san po makikita at ma-audi yung HK3380? How much po?
Anybody know the distributor of HK dito sa atin?
TIA
Romevenom,
Nakita ko rin yang HK 347 sa Amazon.com less than 500 dollars at mga P21T sa pera natin. Mura talaga lalo na kung bigay lang sa yo. Tapos me DCDi at gaya ng sinabi mo 2 HDMI input at 1 output. Me naglabas dito niyan medyo mahal lang. Sana maibaba din nila presyo para 220v kasi tama Gearhead 120v galing US. Pag dumating na yan balitaan mo kami.
I am getting an HK 3380 by the end of the month or early next month for a dedicated 2-channel listening.
Ok ba ito or may mas-better brands out there for the same price?
Advice naman po kayo jan.
TIA.
Guys,
My question lang ako about HK/AVR230 how to increase sub volume? i bought kc a subwoofer from diy master sabi nya baka matulungan nyo daw ako, wala kasing lumalabas na sound sa sub.
Mga guru any comment sa harman/kardon AVR especially 145 at 245 series
my brother is planning to get one. Well I know my self maganda yung product what about your comment.
want to hear something from you.
Guys,
My question lang ako about HK/AVR230 how to increase sub volume? i bought kc a subwoofer from diy master sabi nya baka matulungan nyo daw ako, wala kasing lumalabas na sound sa sub.
saan nga po uli ang service center ng hk?
thanks
to all,Hi,
good day po!
i would like to ask po sana for your help or suggestion regarding hk135.
it's a 6.1 receiver, does the 6.1 channel will work if i'm gonna use an optical cable, or do i still need a dvd disc which has a 6.1 audio output also.
i'm currently using an rca cable connected to my dvd's 5.1 channel, which obviously will not result to 6.1 channel output.
what can you suggest po
hoping for your pm or reply, thanks in advance po sa inyo ;D
to all,
good day po!
i would like to ask po sana for your help or suggestion regarding hk135.
it's a 6.1 receiver, does the 6.1 channel will work if i'm gonna use an optical cable, or do i still need a dvd disc which has a 6.1 audio output also.
i'm currently using an rca cable connected to my dvd's 5.1 channel, which obviously will not result to 6.1 channel output.
what can you suggest po
hoping for your pm or reply, thanks in advance po sa inyo ;D
Guys,
My question lang ako about HK/AVR230 how to increase sub volume? i bought kc a subwoofer from diy master sabi nya baka matulungan nyo daw ako, wala kasing lumalabas na sound sa sub.
streetlegal,
i haven't try the optical yet, pero sometime i'll try optical and compare it, if you can pls. give feedback.
Otepsy,
It's hard to hear the difference in sound output of Digital Coaxial and Optical cable.
It think they are just both the same. Just make sure that your Coaxial cable is DIGITAL not ANALOG. Its your chance to compare it, give us a feedback if your the difference.
sir rome,
when you say "Just make sure that your Coaxial cable is DIGITAL not ANALOG", what do you exactly mean? i have an optical cable, rg59, i've tried and used it as coaxial and it works, but the problem is the dialogue/voice(which normally comes out sa center, also comes out sa front channels. tried to select dts audio already, but still the same
i've already selected coaxial 1 on my hk receiver, and it has the same audio output po
any recommendations mga sirs? thanks in advance
[quote author=--Streetlegal--
sir rome,
when you say "Just make sure that your Coaxial cable is DIGITAL not ANALOG", what do you exactly mean? i have an optical cable, rg59, i've tried and used it as coaxial and it works, but the problem is the dialogue/voice(which normally comes out sa center, also comes out sa front channels. tried to select dts audio already, but still the same
i've already selected coaxial 1 on my hk receiver, and it has the same audio output po
any recommendations mga sirs? thanks in advance
Hi,
Not all coaxial cables can carry digital signals. There are two types of coaxial cables, Digital and Analog. Analog coaxial capable cannot carry digital signals. Sir just use your optical cable and select optical cable 1 on your HK receiver (not coaxial cable 1). I'm very much sure it will carry digital signals.
Thanks!
Rome
thanks sir for your very informative reply ;D
sorry medyo bago pa lang po and not familiar with cables
thanks sir rome also
hello.. where can i buy hk receivers? meron ba silang 15-20k lang price? pero with optical input na.. and ok ba hk if paired with wharfe speaker? thanks!
hello.. where can i buy hk receivers? meron ba silang 15-20k lang price? pero with optical input na.. and ok ba hk if paired with wharfe speaker? thanks!
guys, san pa kaya meron hk145? thanks ;D
meron po sa architecturalaudio @ 19,600, im planning to buy that also, what speaker are you pairing with hk145?
planning to pair it with wharfedale 9.5, 9cm, un pang surround di ko pa alam.
will the 145 be sufficient enough for the wharfes? or should i go with 245? kaso ang mahal na :-\
di ko rin po sure kung ok na combi yung hk145 and 9.5, wala pa po time makapag audition eh pero 9.5 din po plan kong ippair sa hk145 for my first ht setup =)
pareho tayo. wala din ako time for audition.. tanong tanong lang muna..hehe
kaylan mo balak buuhin setup mo? isang bagsakan ba gagawin mo 5.1 kagad? ako kasi 2.1 muna siguro tapos ipon uli budget para sa center and surronds, nung una gusto ko yung satelite speakers lang na pwede i-wall mount kaso naisip ko para matagal tagal bago upgrade uli eh dun na ako sa floorstander speakers
I have an HK5500 and hindi na nag sasave settings nya, pag ni off ko sya nawawala yung settings when i turn it back on? Any of you guys encountered the same problem? Where can i get this fixed?
guys,
ok ba yung hk avr 145 yung may kasama ng jbl na speakers yung maliliit with 8" sub? tnx
Anyone tried to upgrade their Harman Kardon 347? Nakakatakot mag upgrade eh. Pa help naman po kung meron na nka try.
Thanks!
http://www.harmankardon.com/product_support/ProductUpgrades.aspx?prod=AVR%20347&prodname=AVR%20347&Country=US&Language=ENG&Region=USA&ky=55C69EDE2CB3F9B4CA4A6880CAD7A123 (http://www.harmankardon.com/product_support/ProductUpgrades.aspx?prod=AVR%20347&prodname=AVR%20347&Country=US&Language=ENG&Region=USA&ky=55C69EDE2CB3F9B4CA4A6880CAD7A123)
To manually check that your AVR's software has been properly upgraded, press 1-2-3-4-SET on the remote control, and the current software version will appear in the front-panel display. If the version information shown below appears, your upgrade was successful. If not, please repeat the upgrade process.
02-02-2008 02
HFW V2.4.22.1
guys,
gamit ko ngayon is avr 145.. ano kaya ok na front speaker ang ilagay? floor standing sana balak ko... ok ba yung mourdant short carnival 8 or carnival 6 model? ano pa ba yung ok na ibang option na mag mamatch sa avr 145? TIA
guys,
gamit ko ngayon is avr 145.. ano kaya ok na front speaker ang ilagay? floor standing sana balak ko... ok ba yung mourdant short carnival 8 or carnival 6 model? ano pa ba yung ok na ibang option na mag mamatch sa avr 145? TIA
tnx sa replies....
mga how much kaya yung infinity primus? ok din ba yung jbl (forgot the model pero floor standing na din)? sapat na ba yung power ng avr 145 sa infinity? na audition ko na kasi yung jbl so far ok naman, pero baka may mas ok pa na iba tsaka mas cheaper hehe, tnx tnx
the hk 145 would be enough to drive the infinity primus. they're very sensitive and the power rating of the hk is very conservative. it actually has more power than rated. :) i sent you pm regarding price of primus. :)
Gentlemen'
Got any idea how much will be the local price of the new H/K AVR355?
(http://www.harmanaudio.com/images/products/front_large/AVR355_230.jpg)
Tnx
Sir, pa PM din naman po price ng HK receivers, yung entry - mid level lang ;). Thanks.
sana mabasa ng HK dealer to....
im very interested in an AVR 255.............. ;D ;D ;D
no word from the distributor when they'll be bringing in the x55 models. maybe early next year pa. :( i'll update you guy once i have some more info. :)
Gentlemen'
Got any idea how much will be the local price of the new H/K AVR355?
(http://www.harmanaudio.com/images/products/front_large/AVR355_230.jpg)
Tnx
how much for the HK 245 pre? pa PM naman ty
pa pm naman ng price. both for 145 and 245. thanks
guys i recently hooked up my hk 140 and im having problems with the volume
i have set my fronts and center to large and small for my sorrounds.... increased my center to +5 and all other speakers to +2 and i still have to crank the volume all the way to -16 before the audio dialgues to becomes understandable.. the max volume btw is +7
can you share your audio settings maybe i just need to tweak something
thanks in advance
im using a set of wharfedale 6ohms... do i need to set all the speakers to large and move the lfe to the sub to make the audio louder ?
sir avshop, pa-ping din ng price for primus P252...if these are are available. thanks!
having a special promo on the hk 245. pm if interested! only 10 units available. :)
kindly pm best price of the hk245 in cah mode. tnx!
Sir pa pm din ng price. Thanks
sir avshop, sent you a pm and texted you. im interested with the HK245. thanks.
thanks sa hk245 and sa wharfs, will just test you if ever I encounter problems, thank again
I have a problem with my AVR 5500, it's not saving the settings anymore, it will go back to factory settings when turn off and turn on again. do you guys have any idea what the problem and where can i get it fixed?
Thanks
the small battery inside might be out of juice and needs to be replaced. you can bring it to beyond innovations in libis. they're the distributor of hk here. where did you buy your avr 5500? :)
Bought it at Spectra in Makati during it's first release, cant remember when. Sir do you have a contact person i can call?
Thanks for the reply sir.
hi courage. here's the number of the service center. 634-7315 loc 119-120 :)
Guys, a little help naman. I have a h/k avr-635. 110 volts sha. The issue is, each time I turn it on, it freezes and I cant do nothing, I have to toggle the main power switch for it to work. do you know any reliable service centers here in the metro? How much do you think they will charge me (labor and Parts). Thanks everone! Happy New Year!!!
Maki
Do HK receivers normally run warmer than other brands? I have an HK AVR-144 which seems to run warmer than my Yamaha RX-V663.
Do you mean HK 254 or HK 245?
Do you mean HK 254 or HK 245?
im getting confused with the names, in their website you wont find the AVR 245 but you will find the HK AVR 254. is this some naming convention which depends per country?
Thanks.
245 is available here, previous generation. Current generation is the 255.
The is available in the US and decodes lossless audio.
a ok. so that one being sold here in the philippines is the hk avr 245 and not the AVR 254.
thanks.
The 255 is now available here also, but of course more expensive. I think the main difference between the 245 and the 255 is the latter's ability to decode lossless audio formats (and heftier price tag).
Hi Guys,
Which do you think is better in terms of performance HK AVR 245 or the Yamaha RX V463? i will be using the AVR to power up the following:
Wharfedale Series 9 Speakers
Fronts: 9.1
Center: 9CS
Surround: 9DFS
Sub: SW150
Usage:
50% - Music
50% - Movies
konti lang kase difference sa price range e, the HK AVR 245 is PHP 23,500 while the Yamaha RX V463 is PHP22,000
in terms of specs mas mataas ung power rating ng yamaha however i've read somewhere here na malakas daw talaga ang power rating ng HK, per channel kasi nung sa HK is just 50W X 7 sya pero ung Yamaha 105W x 5.
(http://www.harmankardon.com/images/product_small/AVR245.jpg) PHP 23,500
http://www.harmankardon.com/specifications.aspx?Region=USA&Country=US&Language=ENG&cat=REC&ser=&prod=AVR%20245/230&sType=
VS
(http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/Images/YEC/AV_Receivers/Main/M_rxv463.jpg) PHP 22,000
http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/productdetail.html?CNTID=567576
Which do you think is a better buy among the two?
Thanks.
Ah madali yang tanong na yan.
I would recommend the HK 245.
hehehehe
@bayen
You should make a separate thread regarding your receiver decision, syempre dito medyo may bias to HK yung mga recommendations since this is the HK thread. (No offense to anybody, I myself own a HK AVR-144) ;D
All of a sudden, the audio dissappeared then nag standby mode yung receiver. Nakalagay sa screen nya "protected" then nagshut down na I did it twice it shut down twice. Is this normal? O pinoprotektahan lang ng receiver yung sarili nya kasi it's too loud and she can't carry the load? Wala nga pala ako sub. FRONT L&R= large CENTER= small REAR L&R=small Sub=none. I'm using bookshelf for fronts with 91 sensitivity. Masisira kaya receiver pag madalas mangyari sa kanya ang ganon?
Can you share your opinions please.
what's the cheapest HK receiver with HMDI ports available? how much kaya? :)
Tnx for the reply sir blued. Di ko na inulit buhat no'n. I limit my volume to -25 to -30. Mahirap na. Gamit ko nga po pala bookshelf Paradigm for the 3 fronts.
what's the cheapest HK receiver with HMDI ports available? how much kaya? :)
Just wanna share my experience with my HK340. I was watching War Of The Worlds oneday. Volume is set at -20. Then when the scene came where the pavement starts to crack and rumbling begins, it was at the beginning of the movie. Yung part na nag uuzi sila sa crack na nagawa ng lightning. All of a sudden, the audio dissappeared then nag standby mode yung receiver. Nakalagay sa screen nya "protected" then nagshut down na I did it twice it shut down twice. Is this normal? O pinoprotektahan lang ng receiver yung sarili nya kasi it's too loud and she can't carry the load? Wala nga pala ako sub. FRONT L&R= large CENTER= small REAR L&R=small Sub=none. I'm using bookshelf for fronts with 91 sensitivity. Masisira kaya receiver pag madalas mangyari sa kanya ang ganon? Can you share your opinions please.
the hk 255 is the cheapest hk receiver that can do audio video thru the hdmi. it also supports the new hd audio formats. the hk 245 can only do video thru hdmi cable. no audio. :)
Just wanna share my experience with my HK340. I was watching War Of The Worlds oneday. Volume is set at -20. Then when the scene came where the pavement starts to crack and rumbling begins, it was at the beginning of the movie. Yung part na nag uuzi sila sa crack na nagawa ng lightning. All of a sudden, the audio dissappeared then nag standby mode yung receiver. Nakalagay sa screen nya "protected" then nagshut down na I did it twice it shut down twice. Is this normal? O pinoprotektahan lang ng receiver yung sarili nya kasi it's too loud and she can't carry the load? Wala nga pala ako sub. FRONT L&R= large CENTER= small REAR L&R=small Sub=none. I'm using bookshelf for fronts with 91 sensitivity. Masisira kaya receiver pag madalas mangyari sa kanya ang ganon? Can you share your opinions please.
sir avshop, would you know the difference between the 254/354 series saka sa 255/355 series? both are capable of hdmi din kasi, although it seems the xx4 series has the higher wattage.
AVR 255
7 x 50W 7.1-Channel A/V receiver With HDMI™ 1.3a Repeater, Audio/Video Processing and Upscaling to 1080p
The AVR 255 is the most affordable Harman Kardon® receiver to feature both Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding on the audio side, and Faroudja DCDi Cinema® video processing to 1080p on the video side. But there's plenty more to recommend the AVR 255, including three HDMI™ inputs, connections for external amplifiers, EzSet/EQ™ technology to fine-tune your system to the acoustics of your room, and an RS-232 port for future firmware upgrades. Perhaps the highest recommendation of all? As do all Harman Kardon A/V receivers, the AVR 255 features a high-current, ultrawide-bandwidth design for maximum fidelity.
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/AVR255_230.jpg)
How much kaya ito?
i think AV shop is selling this here 34k if im not mistaken
@ avshop
do you sell harman kardon stereo receivers? pm me for cash and cc sir. thanks.
anyone know where i can get an h/k avr 145? and how much it costs? thanks!
I'm looking around for AV Receivers that can work with my Hoffman 5.1 speaker system. I'm considering an HK AVR but find the AVR 255 a bit expensive.
Is video up/cross conversion or scaling to 1080p a crucial function or will be one in the near future?
Is it still advisable to get an AVR only capable of 5.1 output?
@avshop
Would you mind sending me the price list of your AVRs (HK as well as others you might have)? Thanks.
;D balak kong speaker set is wharfedale 9. . . . price ata nung 663 ay 31+ at ung HK255 ay 33+ ata discounted na pareho. . . tama ba ung price? ???
May alam po ba kaung store na pwedeng pagauditionan na wharfedale 9 at 663 ang gamit na avr? MM area po. . . ;D
@ Sir mikevg08
Kaso 100V ata pag galing US eh. . . ok lang ba un? ???
anybody using this amp. HK 3390.... totoo bang madaling mag init ito?
tanx alot bro...and now im convinced
AVR 255
7 x 50W 7.1-Channel A/V receiver With HDMI™ 1.3a Repeater, Audio/Video Processing and Upscaling to 1080p
The AVR 255 is the most affordable Harman Kardon® receiver to feature both Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio decoding on the audio side, and Faroudja DCDi Cinema® video processing to 1080p on the video side. But there's plenty more to recommend the AVR 255, including three HDMI™ inputs, connections for external amplifiers, EzSet/EQ™ technology to fine-tune your system to the acoustics of your room, and an RS-232 port for future firmware upgrades. Perhaps the highest recommendation of all? As do all Harman Kardon A/V receivers, the AVR 255 features a high-current, ultrawide-bandwidth design for maximum fidelity.
(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff26/marcyao/AVR255_230.jpg)
SIr,
Pls PM d price. thnx!
any owners of the new hk 255 and hk 355 out there? :)
what entry model ng HK ang pwedeng input ang ipod?
thanks
looking for entry model lang talaga..it will be used lang sa 25 sq meter condo unit
btw..previously owned a yamaha mission and velo combo ht
thanks
d**n...i was thinking of the same thing..hk355 pala entry level for that...wifey wants something like that...
selling the hk 255 for only 29.5k only 2 units available. :)
paki pm naman sir ng best price
thanks
selling the hk 255 for only 29.5k only 2 units available. :)
paki pm naman sir ng best price
thanks
sent you pm :)
I have to cancel my purchase in Amazon for the HK 3550 for a bargain price of $590 from orig msrp of $1199 and end up buying the pricey Sony STR5300ES instead. Sayang itong release na model na ito, because IMO, this is the best receiver around....it can DO both... it is very good in movies & AWESOME in Music (have compared it with the music of Denon 3806 & Yammie 1700, this two receivers sounded tinny while HK435 has richer & fuller sounds)...
Its upgrade time!!! I already bid my goodbye to my Denon 3806... ;D
that's why i'm really having a hard time letting go of my non-hdmi avr-5550. i'm not sure i can get the same wall of sound i get with my h/k, especially partnered with a good sub. what it gives up in an expanded soundstage, it makes it up with depth and weight that not even my previous marantz can match. i really like it especially in concerts. also, i can watch 3 movies in a row in high volume without suffering from ear fatigue.
Harman Kardon AVR's has not found a solution yet to their popping, pcm sound lock etc with the current xx54 models released in the US (not sure if it also afflicting the x55 models). Last time I checked with AVS forum, said issues are yet to be resolved with the firmware update to be released this month (.96.1.1). I have to cancel my purchase in Amazon for the HK 3550 for a bargain price of $590 from orig msrp of $1199 and end up buying the pricey Sony STR5300ES instead. Sayang itong release na model na ito, because IMO, this is the best receiver around....it can DO both... it is very good in movies & AWESOME in Music (have compared it with the music of Denon 3806 & Yammie 1700, this two receivers sounded tinny while HK435 has richer & fuller sounds)...
Its upgrade time!!! I already bid my goodbye to my Denon 3806... ;D
Sad to say, bugs that afflicting the x54 HK series has not been fixed yet & this does not spare the x55s release outside of US. If I were you, I will defer my purchase for any HK receivers until all problems repoerted had been addressed by future FW updates. Here's the response from their tech team in Northbridge, CA:
Thank you for your inquiry. We are currently working on a new software update that will be released within 2 months. So any units being sold as of now would still require the new update.
Best Regards,
Vu Le
Internet Support Specialist
Harman Consumer Group
Northridge, CA
PS: If replying to this email, please include all previous correspondence. It is the only way I can keep up with your situation. Thank you!
If possible, could you please take a quick survey for us? Please click on the link below to answer a few quick questions. Thank you very much for your time!
http://www.harmanaudio.com/surveys/HCGCSSurvey.asp?techname=websupport1
Buti may nag po post ng mga Nega's to inform potential customers.
Kating kati pa naman na ako mag upgrade ng Receiver.
So wait and see mode muna uli.
come over to the shop and check out the hk 255 and hk 355 in action. we are now open from 11am to 8pm, wednesday to sunday. for inquiries you can call 216-1948. :)
sir how much hk 255 and 355
kindly pm the price thanks
sir bundled din ba sa 355 un ipod dock?
Im a happy owner of the HK 255. Its great in both HT & Audio applications. Aftersales service of sir Marc (avshop) is excellent! ang bilis! Two thumbs up for you sir! :)
Anybody here using HKs for a 4 ohm load? Read in some forums that all HK AVRs are 4 ohm stable.
Also, I understand that HKs have a lower power rating but will not necessarily be less powerful than 100w of say Denon, Onkyo or Yamaha.
Will the 255 or 355 have difficulty driving a 4 ohm speaker with a sensitivity of 86db?
it's 4 ohm capable. sent you sms. :)
Anybody here using HKs for a 4 ohm load? Read in some forums that all HK AVRs are 4 ohm stable.
Also, I understand that HKs have a lower power rating but will not necessarily be less powerful than 100w of say Denon, Onkyo or Yamaha.
Will the 255 or 355 have difficulty driving a 4 ohm speaker with a sensitivity of 86db?
it's 4 ohm capable. sent you sms. :)
Does the 355 still come with the ipod dock?
sent you pm :)
Sir kindly pa-pm din po ng price .. :)
hi marc pa pm pala price din nun hk 355 hindi ko pala napasulat dito sa quotations mo ;) thanks!
Just wondering if anybody has service complaints about H/K. I heard from one store that they stopped pushing the brand (although they can still source it) because there have been times wherein the service of H/K just tells them that the unit is irreparable and to just get a new unit.
mga how much yung 355? and saan pwede audition?
same level ba to with onkyo 606 and denon 1909?
may preout na ba yung 255 and 355?
yup. :) Hk 255 and 355 have pre outs. :)
what do you mean by pre outs?
what do you mean by pre out?
kaya ba nya mag convert from component analog into HD/HMDI 1080p?
i have an hk255, and it's 50wpc rating for 7 channels is underrated... it is able to power speakers more easily than some 85-90 wpc rated avrs... i won't mention brands, but all i can say is that i have been able to compare and can confirm this to be a fact...
hi guys,
who know where i can have an H/K AVR 147 serviced?
pa-PM nalang address and contact person.
its a 110V unit that was plugged into a 220v outlet.
thanks!
you may contact Beyond Innovation - 6344790
hope this helps. thanks
thanks !
would u also know beyond's address?
thanks so much hebrew and uvax!
anyone else know of any other options/service shop?
I'm so out of touch with the latest HK....
I have a HK AVR 5500, is there any pre-amp that I can buy and use with it? Something that can decode Dolby True HD and DTS - HD -MA,for blu-ray ?
Or do I have to buy an all new avr? If so, what is the latest models available here that has the same speaker output spec as the AVR 5500?
you can get the new hk 255. it can decode dolby true hd and dts hd and it has pre-outs. i give great deals on harman kardon gear. :)
I'm so out of touch with the latest HK....
I have a HK AVR 5500, is there any pre-amp that I can buy and use with it? Something that can decode Dolby True HD and DTS - HD -MA,for blu-ray ?
Or do I have to buy an all new avr? If so, what is the latest models available here that has the same speaker output spec as the AVR 5500?
hi just had a couple of questions. i'm trying to decide between the 255 and a denon 1910. i've read a lot of stuff on the net and wanted to get the opinion of the folks here. first, does the 255 run hot? hotter than the 1910? second, when you have the the following setup [disc player -> 255 -> tv], are you able to play audio discs on the player without turning on the tv?
TIA :)
HK 255 by a mile, yes for the other questions.
HK 255 by a mile, yes for the other questions.
you may contact Beyond Innovation - 6344790
hope this helps. thanks
i can give great deals on hk receivers. :)
sir paki pm cash price ng 255 & 355
TIA
I called the number and it's no longer in service.. Anyone knows their new number and location? Thanks in advance.
Please really need help with my HK. Does anyone here knows where can I service it? thanks.
dami na rin nagtatanong nitong service center for harman kardon. since i have good
experience with them naman, sana makatulong din sa fellow h/k owners and sa beyond
na rin. this is where i brought my h/k a year or so ago, so not sure if these haven't
been updated yet.
Beyond Innovations, Inc.
Unit B4 Topy's Place
Calle Industria cor. Economia St.,
Libis Quezon City
Tel No. 634-7315 or 638-4299 loc 119 & 120
(http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1860/beyondlibis.jpg)
"1" is the location of their office, while "2" is where the service center is. as i've said,
not sure if they haven't moved yet, but if not... then it is where you need to go. you can
download the image to see a larger pic, or "view image" in firefox.
harman kardon avr 355 christmas sale!!! pm me if interested. :)
the new hk avr 160 now available for audition. :)
the new hk avr 160 now available for audition. :)
Sir magkano na po ngaun avr 160 and avr 255? thanks..
hk avr 160 and 260 now available. :)
are the*60's replacements of the *55's? What are the improvements of the 60's over the 55 series? Are they still the cheapest AVRs with preouts?
I'm currently looking for a good deal for a brand new HK AVR 155. Any tips on price and where to buy are highly appreciated.
Thanks!
hi guys,
i am new here in hk forum, is there anybody who own hk avr 85.can u pls share ur experience or review regarding on this avr.b'coz my wife r working in singapore and she bought this hk just for 20 sgd ;D together with a pair a pioneer bookshelf speaker.(don't know the model)my wife said the hk is still working and in good condition and the reason to sell is going abroad ung couple (Chinese Singaporean).and stuff will be arrive this coming april.thnks in advance for any comments or review rerding this model. :)
hk avr 134, 160, 260, 660 and 760 now available. :) you can reach me at 0917-3273083 or 216-1948. :)
I have the ff set up: HK AVR 255 + JBL SCS 260.5
How should I set up the crossover freq manualy?.. I already measured the distances my only problem is using the correct cross over freq and the proper level (db) of each speaker/channel... Please help... Thanks...
I have upgraded mine to version 0.97.2.2 but I donwgraded it back to version 0.96.1.1 because of intermittent pause when using DTS Neo:6 settings... R u also experiencing the same situation?.. Please share...
Thanks to Boss Mike (avshop) for giving a good deal to my biyenan on his purchase of the HK980 integrated stereo amp last Sunday at his shop in MarQuee Mall in Pampanga.
80wpc x 2, with built in MM phono stage pa. . . 2 speaker outs so pwede bi-wire na separate connections. . .
(http://www.re-carta.hu/termekek/Harman%20%20Kardon%20HK%20980.jpg)
(http://www.soundgarden.no/upload/hk980-back.jpg)
(http://audio.com.pl/pics/testy/min_harman_kardon_hd980_hk980_03.jpg)
Guys, try out the HK980. Sounds good with the B&W 683. . .
Btw ser, could you PM me the price for the 980's big brother, the HK990? Very interesting design. . . I might be tempted to leave my tubes behind for this 200wpc monster. . . with built in DACs to boot!
(http://www.minhembio.com/forum/uploads/monthly_08_2009/post-73777-1251292712.jpg)
hk 160 and hk 260 available again for demo at the shop. hk 460 coming soon. :)
big diff ba 260 with 255 bro avshop?
Better but I wouldn't say it's worlds apart. :)
Mas maganda ba ang hk160 compared to denon 1611? May auto convert ba ang hk 160?
Sa looks talo si denon kasi nakita ko na sya. Di masyadong maganda ung material na ginamit para sa body nya.
San gawa yung HK160? China ata ung denon.
may issue ba yung hdmi pass tru ng hk 160 when connected sa xbox 360 may sounds sya kaso black screen sa plasma any workaround dvd players works fine sa xbox 360 lang di gumana...thnx
Hi sir I just bought a HK AVR 160 last Saturday at AVSHOP. Planning to get the Mirage nanosat speakers on the 25th of september.
Question lang.
Automatic bang nadetetect nung receiver ung number of active speakers mo?
Kasi as of now naka 2.0 ch lang ako (gamit ko ung lumang speakers na pioneer) tapos kapag mag play ako ng mga movies na dolby digital 6.0ch ung audio, hindi ko maiba ung surround modes nya. Pag auto, naka dolby digital sya kaso ang na rearead nya na setup ko is 3/2/.1 pero naka 2.0 lang ako. Ganun ba talaga un? Gusto ko rin kasing ma try ung ibang surround modes. I dont know kung sa 5.1 or above setups mo lang sya maseselect. Please help.
Thanks!
Ok alam ko na. Hindi talaga pwede ma select ung ibang surround modes kapag 2.0. Tinry kong i on ung ibang channels then ayun napalabas ko rin sila. Another thing na notice ko is ung slight delay nya sa XMB ng PS3. Sa simula wala syang sounds tapos kapag tinuloy tuloy mo lang ung pag pindot ng d-pad eh maririnig mo na yung clicking sounds. Same sa pag play ng videos at mp3. Pero di ko naman sya na eexperience sa gaming. Ganun din sa PC di ko marinig ung mga clicking sounds. Natural lang ba yun?
bakit wala sa website ng harman kardon yung 160, ang meron lang 1600. same lang ba yun?
pinagpipilian ko kasi Denon 1611 or Harman Kardon 1600.
im planning to upgrade my 35watts hk avr135 to 50watts of hk avr1600 from us..although still I will be using the standard dd/dts formats due dont have a blueray or HDMI source of AUDIO, just a standard upscaling dvd player only. im just wondering and wanna know as well if there's a difference in sound quality of a 50watter to 30watter?Are both avr sound the same? or just a loudness/volume increase for the 50watts? set aside the DDHD?/DTSHD formats.just the standard dd/dts and stereo only.does the 50watter better sound quality and improvement? or still the same? just an increase in volume? it will drive same set of speakers again...
need your opinions or suggestions...tnx sirs!
im planning to upgrade my 35watts hk avr135 to 50watts of hk avr1600 from us..although still I will be using the standard dd/dts formats due dont have a blueray or HDMI source of AUDIO, just a standard upscaling dvd player only. im just wondering and wanna know as well if there's a difference in sound quality of a 50watter to 30watter?Are both avr sound the same? or just a loudness/volume increase for the 50watts? set aside the DDHD?/DTSHD formats.just the standard dd/dts and stereo only.does the 50watter better sound quality and improvement? or still the same? just an increase in volume? it will drive same set of speakers again...
need your opinions or suggestions...tnx sirs!
hello sir newbie here, may nagoofer sakin dito ng avr134 na tempting ang price,ok ba tong amplifier na to?for movies ko gamitin and worry ko is 50hz sya, im from qatar nga pala. suggestions naman mga sir kasi balak ko iuwi sa pinas and dyan nalang ako bili mga speakers. thank you
mga sirs...s question lang po bago lang ako kc nagseset up kaya nagjoin n ko dito sa pinoydvd para makakuha ng tips, meron na po ako avr 255, ilang watts po ba ang kayang idrive nito pagdating sa speaker wattage.. plan ko po kc lagyan ng 250watts w/ minimum input of 30watts front speaker then 100 watts bose vcs 10 center ang avr 255 ko... maganda pa din po ba ang tunog nito...di ba masisira ang avr ko... patulong naman po...tnx...
hi sir,
nde ko lang sure pero bka tulad ng pc, need lang palitan ng certain battery yung memory nyan.
hope that will be the solution, miss ko na yung ganyan na kulay ng HK
When i e-mailed Harman Kardon, they said that a battery inside needs replacement.. but when i look into the vents with a very strong flash light and i can see almost every components inside.. wala naman akong makitang battery look alike na component...
Hmmmmmm....
It's normally a small capacitor that stores the memory and not a conventional battery.
Yup , It is actually a backup capacitor which acts like a battery to keep about 2.5V supplied to the controller/ processor IC .. Must have a diagram to make sure you are changing the correct cap :)
hk 160 and hk 260 available again for demo at the shop. hk 460 coming soon. :)
Sir, please pa quote naman nang prices. thanks.
will they release again an all black receiver again...
Thanks for all your input. Will bring the unit na lang sa Beyond Innovations service center. Are they still in libis?
Amp is still working fine except for this minor defect.
Hello everyone, I'm an owner of a HK AVR 255, had problems last year with the unit, especially when playing CDs or music files from a pioneer DVD player (with USB) and my seagate media player. When the next track of a CD or a music folder plays/starts, a bit of the song is not played, like half-a-second. I found this to be also true when playing movies, like the sound at the start of the next track/part gets cut-off when forwarding movies. Brought it to Beyond Innovations and they said it was just gonna be an upgrade of the firmware/software. The problem still exists, although not at all times. Does anybody have the same problem, or has anybody experienced this? I want to bring the unit back to Libis but I don't know if the problem is my Pioneer DVD player or my Media player...
Hello everyone, I'm an owner of a HK AVR 255, had problems last year with the unit, especially when playing CDs or music files from a pioneer DVD player (with USB) and my seagate media player. When the next track of a CD or a music folder plays/starts, a bit of the song is not played, like half-a-second. I found this to be also true when playing movies, like the sound at the start of the next track/part gets cut-off when forwarding movies. Brought it to Beyond Innovations and they said it was just gonna be an upgrade of the firmware/software. The problem still exists, although not at all times. Does anybody have the same problem, or has anybody experienced this? I want to bring the unit back to Libis but I don't know if the problem is my Pioneer DVD player or my Media player...
That's normal behavior for Media players.Thanks for the reply. So that explains the Media player. But how about the Pioneer DVD player? I set the audio source from the coax.
Hi, if you are sending digital signal to the AVR 255, that is normal on H/K AVR's. I also have the AVR 255 and a Pioneer DVD player as well with HDMI. I'm using Popcorn Hour A-200.Wow, so that explains it, thanks for the detailed explanation. So does it mean everybody with HK receivers has experienced this? Btw, I use the coax cable as the sound connection from my Pioneer DVD player, not the HDMI. This also qualifies as digital source, right? Thus the muting at the beginning of the track? I might also add that before the firmware upgrade there was a popping sound at the change of tracks, which was eliminated after the upgrade.
When I address it to H/K, the customer service said that the reason why they do that is because the AVR 255 is choosing the surround mode during the muted period. It is also identifying the bit depth and sample rate, which is even more important for playing back audio. This is happening with every track because your DVD player is dropping the synchronization signal between each track. If the DVD player did not drop the sync signal, this would not happen.
One thing that you can try is use analog cables. Using the L/R analog cable you will not experience any muting at the beginning of each song.
For my experience, the sound when I use the AVR 255 HDMI, optical or coaxial is much better (better dynamics) compared to my Pioneer DV-610AV. Most probably because of the implementation of DACs in the AVR 255.
Hope this helps.
Wow, so that explains it, thanks for the detailed explanation. So does it mean everybody with HK receivers has experienced this? Btw, I use the coax cable as the sound connection from my Pioneer DVD player, not the HDMI. This also qualifies as digital source, right? Thus the muting at the beginning of the track? I might also add that before the firmware upgrade there was a popping sound at the change of tracks, which was eliminated after the upgrade.
Thanks for all your input. Will bring the unit na lang sa Beyond Innovations service center. Are they still in libis?
Amp is still working fine except for this minor defect.
Sir, please update how much for the cost of this. I think we have the same problem. Though its all working fine with Wharfs. Regards sir! ;)
Gud evening Sirs! I'm torn between buying a Harman Kardon AVR 160 or Onkyo 508. Which one do you think is better? I intend to use it 50/50 (movies/audio). TIA
Gud evening Sirs! I'm torn between buying a Harman Kardon AVR 160 or Onkyo 508. Which one do you think is better? I intend to use it 50/50 (movies/audio). TIAboth receiver will sound good in wharfes. mas musical lang for me ang wharfes sa onkyo. but you say 50/50 ka sa audio/movies kaya for me sa h/k ang bagsak ko. but its your decision sir you can never go wrong sa dalawa.
Thanks Sir Stagea and Sir dj! I'm actually choosing between Rti a1 and Infinity Primus 162 speakers. Will have to audition these speakers with both H/K 160 and Onkyo 508 before I decide. My room only measures 2.8m x 6m so I'm thinking of just getting BS as fronts. But surely,will audtion Primus 252 and Tsi 300 as well. Do you think my AVR options match well with the speakers I mentioned? Thanks once again.
I've auditioned the RTa1 against infinity and tsi, the RTA1 won, now ive got one in my bedroom.. just got it today.. the RTA's sound more detailed and more fuller... though maganda din yung Infinity and TSI pero mas nanalo talaga ang RTA's for me...
I've auditioned the RTa1 against infinity and tsi, the RTA1 won, now ive got one in my bedroom.. just got it today.. the RTA's sound more detailed and more fuller... though maganda din yung Infinity and TSI pero mas nanalo talaga ang RTA's for me...
Gud evening Sirs! I'm torn between buying a Harman Kardon AVR 160 or Onkyo 508. Which one do you think is better? I intend to use it 50/50 (movies/audio). TIA
congrats bro on your new babies :) do also got the h/k?
I have an HK already the AVR5500 which was purchased in 2003, havent tested yet the Polk with this baby, kelangan ko banana plugs hirap magkabit tanggal speakers sa likod nang AVR he he he
I have an HK already the AVR5500 which was purchased in 2003, havent tested yet the Polk with this baby, kelangan ko banana plugs hirap magkabit tanggal speakers sa likod nang AVR he he he
NVM... i nag research ako tungkol sa HK 1600. It does only pass-through.It can pass both audio and video through HDMI. No video upscaling capability though. No need for a separate audio cable if you are using HDMI. I'm using the Asian Version HKAVR160 right now.
From my research if the receiver is pass-through it can only pass video. So i need a separate audio cable sound. That would my the back of my TV cluttered and not nice.
Is that what the pass-through of the HK1600 really does? only pass-out video?
Can anyone experience with the 1600 give the thoughts on this?
Thank God. Its good to hear that you only need one hdmi direct to your tv. Ang gulo grabe nababasa ko kasi sa ibang forums na older receiver with pass-through only pass hdmi video only.
ya know 1600 35 watts seems quite low, but is it?
Harman receivers are very under rated. That 35 watts would be as loud as a 80-90 watt Japanese receiver. Come by the shop to check them out. :)+1 Although it has a low wattage claimed on paper, it shouldn't have any problem driving maintstream speakers. Unless you will be using hard to drive speakers that will certainly require beefier amp from midlevel to high end. Visit Marc's shop to hear them sing.
Thank God. Its good to hear that you only need one hdmi direct to your tv. Ang gulo grabe nababasa ko kasi sa ibang forums na older receiver with pass-through only pass hdmi video only.
ya know 1600 35 watts seems quite low, but is it?
is the Harman kardon 160 good for video games?
is the Harman kardon 160 good for video games?
Base on my experience with Harman(AVR5500). It's good at everything music, HT and Gaming...
HK is a very powerful amp, ignore the low wattage in the spec..it will give more than what they stated in their specs..Weight na weight pa lang kita mo na agad eh...
may pag asa din kayang bumaba ang prices ng HK AVRs, just like in HarmanKardon US site, MSRP ng 2600 is from $799 down to $699? In amazon is $479.99 na........... patient....be patient....bababa din yan ;D
Galing lang ako sa AVShop, mayroon silang Harman Kardon 260 nasa Php28k lang... eto na ata ang dream come true.
Galing lang ako sa AVShop, mayroon silang Harman Kardon 260 nasa Php28k lang... eto na ata ang dream come true.28k na? buti kung brand new, kc, last may 3 na pm ako ni avshop ng mas mataas jan e, MSRP ng UK pa. buti naman at bumaba na. mas madali ko ng mapag iponan yan he he....... konting tiis pa, baka bababa pa, kya lang baka maubusan,,waaaaaaaaaa. I'm into marantz 5005 sana because of some features na gusto ko, pero kapag ganyan na ang price ng HK 260, pabayaan mo na mga features n yan, pareho lang siguro sila ng SQ ha ha ha, bye marantz.
28k na? buti kung brand new, kc, last may 3 na pm ako ni avshop ng mas mataas jan e, MSRP ng UK pa. buti naman at bumaba na. mas madali ko ng mapag iponan yan he he....... konting tiis pa, baka bababa pa, kya lang baka maubusan,,waaaaaaaaaa. I'm into marantz 5005 sana because of some features na gusto ko, pero kapag ganyan na ang price ng HK 260, pabayaan mo na mga features n yan, pareho lang siguro sila ng SQ ha ha ha, bye marantz.
Sir Cosmic79, or anybody, anong speakers ang bagay sa 260? RTi, TSi or primus? or may iba pa ba? any suggestions pls? tulo laway na ako sa mga nababasa ko dito.
Sir Sovrain, sa opinion ko bagay ang Polk Audio Tsi or RTi series sa Harman Kardon. Gamit ko Harman Kardon 160 with Polk Audio speakers and ok ang combination. Pwede mo naman audition different speakers sa HK so your ears can choose. When you bring your music files for audition, mag dala ka ng music na may solo vocals and minimal instruments kasi in those type of songs you can gauge how the speakers renders the vocals. I listened to many speakers, pag upbeat and fast disco type songs or fast RnB, the sound is okay. But when you play a jazzy vocal type songs, with solo vocals, the speaker did not render it well. Just pay attention to the details and separations and mga kalansing.gud eve Sir Cosmic79, tnx for the advice. at JBLshop at the annex, I auditioned their speakers with music from my cp, feels so good by don potter for the jazz vocals, home of the braves by toto for rock and lucifer by alan parsons project for instrumentals, kaya lang mp3 format, ok lang ba kung mp3? m planning to bring with me a DVD of Yanni live at the acropolis for the audition (sana wag ko lang makalimutan he he pagpunta ko jan sa city. I'm 12hrs drive away)..Sir, if u happen to know these songs, ok bang pang audition? maraming salamat uli.... :)
gud eve Sir Cosmic79, tnx for the advice. at JBLshop at the annex, I auditioned their speakers with music from my cp, feels so good by don potter for the jazz vocals, home of the braves by toto for rock and lucifer by alan parsons project for instrumentals, kaya lang mp3 format, ok lang ba kung mp3? m planning to bring with me a DVD of Yanni live at the acropolis for the audition (sana wag ko lang makalimutan he he pagpunta ko jan sa city. I'm 12hrs drive away)..Sir, if u happen to know these songs, ok bang pang audition? maraming salamat uli.... :)
Where are you from. We have a Jbl store in Angeles city in marquee mall if you're from the north. :)m from Luna, apayao....province is adjacent to cagayan...di ko masyado napupuntahan ang angeles, mas malimit ang byahe ko sa baguio n manila. kung alam ko sana earlier, napuntahan ko sana last week, kasi nasa clark ako last saturday for a convention. mas malamang na jan ako papasyal sa shop mo kapag may byahe ako jan sa manila. tnx for the info. cosmic79 says, nasa 28k na ang hk260 mo, any comment on this?
gud eve Sir Cosmic79, tnx for the advice. at JBLshop at the annex, I auditioned their speakers with music from my cp, feels so good by don potter for the jazz vocals, home of the braves by toto for rock and lucifer by alan parsons project for instrumentals, kaya lang mp3 format, ok lang ba kung mp3? m planning to bring with me a DVD of Yanni live at the acropolis for the audition (sana wag ko lang makalimutan he he pagpunta ko jan sa city. I'm 12hrs drive away)..Sir, if u happen to know these songs, ok bang pang audition? maraming salamat uli.... :)
Sir Sovrain, sa opinion ko bagay ang Polk Audio Tsi or RTi series sa Harman Kardon. Gamit ko Harman Kardon 160 with Polk Audio speakers and ok ang combination. Pwede mo naman audition different speakers sa HK so your ears can choose. When you bring your music files for audition, mag dala ka ng music na may solo vocals and minimal instruments kasi in those type of songs you can gauge how the speakers renders the vocals. I listened to many speakers, pag upbeat and fast disco type songs or fast RnB, the sound is okay. But when you play a jazzy vocal type songs, with solo vocals, the speaker did not render it well. Just pay attention to the details and separations and mga kalansing.Sir Cosmic79, hope u don't mind, why did u choose hk160 over 260?
m from Luna, apayao....province is adjacent to cagayan...di ko masyado napupuntahan ang angeles, mas malimit ang byahe ko sa baguio n manila. kung alam ko sana earlier, napuntahan ko sana last week, kasi nasa clark ako last saturday for a convention. mas malamang na jan ako papasyal sa shop mo kapag may byahe ako jan sa manila. tnx for the info. cosmic79 says, nasa 28k na ang hk260 mo, any comment on this?
Sir Cosmic79, hope u don't mind, why did u choose hk160 over 260?
Thats an open unit though hardly used. Not a brand new one. Brand new is still 38k. :)
hey guys some thing strange happen to my harman kardon. It just shutdown.Yes better have your HK checked to be sure. My Harman Kardon is also connected via computer also using the 3.5mm jack to RCA. No problems of shutting down. ( knock on wood ) Only thing is my HK is plugged into a UPS AVR and not directly to the outlet. Though this may not be the solution.
I connected my HK to my PC using a 3.5mm jack to RCA to the rear 7.1 RCA connector. I then installed some polk tsi100 and 16gauge cable. I set the volume to around -25. Its connected directly to a meralco.
I tested this set up late at night and the receiver shutdown. Later I turned it on again and it started working normally. I smelled burnt like smell whenever near it. Good thing the strange thing hasn't happened again. I feel concerned. Should I send it for a check up? :o
hey guys some thing strange happen to my harman kardon. It just shutdown.
I connected my HK to my PC using a 3.5mm jack to RCA to the rear 7.1 RCA connector. I then installed some polk tsi100 and 16gauge cable. I set the volume to around -25. Its connected directly to a meralco.
I tested this set up late at night and the receiver shutdown. Later I turned it on again and it started working normally. I smelled burnt like smell whenever near it. Good thing the strange thing hasn't happened again. I feel concerned. Should I send it for a check up? :o
Thats an open unit though hardly used. Not a brand new one. Brand new is still 38k. :)oops,akala ko talagang bumaba na just like US market .Sir AVshop, Cosmic79 says may special promo for 260, ano po yung promo? Sir AVshop, baka may tawad pa sa 260...... xenxa na po kung tumatawad na ako, he he, di pa naman ako galit sa pera para di ako maghangad ng mas mura.
Sir Marc pm me the price of Harman Kardon AVR165?
hk 165 and 265 now available. :)hi sir mark good match ba to sa tsi400,c20 &owm3 nakuha ko from you? Movi 70 music 30%. TIA
hi sir mark good match ba to sa tsi400,c20 &owm3 nakuha ko from you? Movi 70 music 30%. TIA
Pati na din po marked down price ng AVR 160 and 260.
On a very tight budget here eh.. ;D
One time I had to hand carry a Harman Kardon for about 2 blocks and my arms became sore and numb dahil sa sobrang bigat. It's solid heavy compared to other receivers.ako naman hindi sumakit yakangyaka, I have to carry it on my shoulder though.Pagdating bahay nanginginig ako pag baba ng box.Whew....iniisip ko pano kaya pag nagkasunog..malamang ito una kong bubuhatin. Malalaki na kasi anak ko pwede nang tumakbo magisa ;D ::)
fixed with the firmware update. :)sir how can i firmware update my hk160
sir how can i firmware update my hk160
nagcalibrate ka na ba bro?
sorry for the late reply. yes ginamit ko yung included na mic for autocalibration.
pano ba icalibrate un hk155 ko? d ko magamit ung parang jack ng mic and may umiikot! matagal narin sakin ung hk155
pano po ba gamitin un? ^^.
just plug it in and follow the onscreen instructions.
Need opinion badly regarding HK 155 and 134? which is better?
I'm choosing from the 2 entry models since my budget is tight..
12.k=134 and 13k for 155.(both 2nd hand) ok na po ba sya?
need advice ;D
TIA
@ avshop
Sir may I know what's the difference between 155 and 156?
Hi sir stick,
Cno pong vini-visit nyo dyan saabu dhabi? Hanngang kelan po kayo dyan?
^ ganda ng harman shop sir stick! more pics please ;D
Next stop is Denon & Marantz Shop in Dubai...stay tuned! ;D
Next stop is Denon & Marantz Shop in Dubai...stay tuned! ;D
wow brader martin mukhang iikutin mo lahat ng audio shops dyan sa me ha?pwede bang magpadala ng bd player brother ko bro from dubai? ;D bawi na lang daw sya on-the-house sa rainforest cafe sa Dubai Mall ;)
was at megamall earlier and there's a new HK/JBL shop sa may cyberzone called Acoustical Space. they offered me the HK3490 for 25k. it's a nice shop look for marvin if you wanna check them out, very friendly sila dun
Nice to hear that. Im hk owner too. Not to turn you off guys but they do secret deal, personal experience sa Smne. Btw hk 3490 is cheaper sa av shop, eto ba yung stereo? Hope we're talking the same unit.
Galing ako dyan yesterday.... I auditioned the JBL ES250p and Sub 12
Ang ganda rin nung HK 660 kaya lang 140k :o
Visited the JBL-HK Concept Store sa Cyberzone North EDSA. Friendly rin ang staff and masipag magbenta. Was only planning to browse and the staff persuaded me to listen to their demo ng JBL Northridge E series speakers connected to a Harman Kardon AVR. Movie being played was "How to Train Your Dragon". Ok ang SQ except parang kulang sa "Kick" ang tunog. Maybe it just needs tweaking sa settings. I know maganda ang SQ ng HK. Though the staff told me ang Northridge series is recommended for movies and not for music daw.
I have two HK receivers right now (HK AVR745 & HK AVR3600) and my biggest disappointment w/ HK is the EZSet EQ. It sucks bigtime! I have done all tweaks over & over again but I can't get it right. HK is best with EQ set to off and manually calibrated. I think it's time for HK to consider 3rd party EQ for their AVRs. :(
haaayy im choosing pa naman sana between hk 156 or yamy rx-v471 as my first receiver tsk..tsk. :'(
kung yun nga mga guro nahihirapan ako pa kaya?
noob question! yung mga entry level avr po ba like HK156 need calibration everytime you watch HD BLURAY MOVIE through hdmi?
bagay po kaya sa mga first time avr owner like me itong hk156?or maghanap nalang ako ng ibang brand
of avr na hindi mahirap ang settings
baka kasi masira ulo ko sa settings :o
Just wanted to share my visit to the Harman Outlets in Dubai, UAE.
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Hi there! I'm selling my Harman Kardon AVR 330 with DVD 22 and AVR 3600 with BDP1 (US Version-110 volts) because I'm upgrading to HK AVR 7550 HD. I also have brand new (still sealed) Samsung LCD TV-LA32D403 which I got free when I bought my Samsung LED TV. If interested and other details, just PM me.
Just wanted to share my visit to the Harman Outlets in Dubai, UAE.
good day pinoydvd!
need help on my hk, where should i go for repair it's out of warranty already.
thank you very much.
Brand new entry level model available for audition. :)
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looks like the older generation harman Kardon avr. are they going back to there old designs? it does look nice.
AirPlay? Wow, i just realized my 235 is already too old and definitely needs an update. Please PM target release date. I need to save for this. ;)Heres a auggestion if your just looking for airplay, how about getting an apple tv instead? Saves some bucks.
Beyond Innovations Inc
Unit B4 Topy’s Place, Calle Industria cor. Economia St., Libis, Quezon City
Phone: +632 638-4299
will be going there next week to have my avr135 checked.
the standby light is on but it won't turn on if i press the power button on the unit or the remote.
UP :)
Hi sir, I had the same problem and sent it this morning sa B.I. :D
Naayos po ba sa inyo? How much nagastos niyo? hehe mine is the older HK AVR 134, dadiagnose pa daw. ^_^
Update lang. Naayos naman ng Service Center (sa Topy's) receiver namin.saan yung Topy's bro? Tia
Good job. :)
Thanks for the feedback. Dati kasi afaik HK 70/30 models music/ht sila. Previously, plan ko palitan denon ko to a pure music amp like rega or rotel. pero i change my mind and I'm now looking for avr para 2 in 1.
New Hk 170 and Hk 270 available for audition. :)
Sa holiday season? Open kayo sir? e.g. Dec 26-27th? :)
Just bought the avr 1700. Now to look for good 5.1 speakers :)
I have two HK receivers right now (HK AVR745 & HK AVR3600) and my biggest disappointment w/ HK is the EZSet EQ. It sucks bigtime! I have done all tweaks over & over again but I can't get it right. HK is best with EQ set to off and manually calibrated. I think it's time for HK to consider 3rd party EQ for their AVRs. :(
I totally agree with this post. Pero pag nag manual ka na..... BOOM! Sobrang ganda na ng tunog.so bro tax magpapalit ka na ng receiver? :P
Saan po ba makaka bili ng Harman Kardon HK-3390?
Can you give me a feedback on AVR70 will run it on Polk audio speakers
I have a roomate who is leaving so he gave to me his avr240. Anyway, im looking for a front speaker that is match and can be handled by my avr. Can anyone recommend a bookshelf type speaker?
Just in the entry level or mid level one lang po..
Thanks,
Christian
Tnx bro..kaso dito ako sa uae katulad ni jhamee :) mayron ka bang model na alam na sa tingin okay na match sa 240 ko?
i decided na Harman Kardon AVR170 na kunin ko.
im excited na. ;D
sir tein, anu oras po kayo nagsara kahapon dumaan ako sa shop niyo around 5pm na ata?
gusto ko lang mag audi sa POLK tsx series na imamatch sa HK AVR170.
pero anu mas ok sir na imatch sa HK AVR170
POLK tsx o JBL loft series.
more on music 65%/35% movies.
sir tein, anu oras po kayo nagsara kahapon dumaan ako sa shop niyo around 5pm na ata?
gusto ko lang mag audi sa POLK tsx series na imamatch sa HK AVR170.
Primus and TSx series mag ka match sir, si Loft sir ibang division sya sir, both will sound good naman with the avr170, it will just depende nalang sa tuning and listening preference nyo sir.
pero anu mas ok sir na imatch sa HK AVR170
POLK tsx o JBL loft series.
more on music 65%/35% movies.
sa mga naka hk340,
anong way para maka connect ng mp3 player that will still sound good?
also ano solution sa weak signal ng fm radio?
tanong lang po..anong feature meron ang HK na pantapat sa audessey ng denon?thanx
Regardless of amp, i-connect mo sa dac brader. Yung sa radio nman i-tap mo lang sa kahit anong metal gaganda na reception nyan. O kung may rabbit ear antenna ka mas ok yun
Edit: yung mp3 player mo pala may dock?
I have an old AVR255 that's dying. The service people are still trying to figure out If they can fix it. So, there's a chance that I may need to replace at. Anong equivalent nung AVR255 ko sa current line up ng HK?
Hi, anyone have experience with an AVR330 and how to configure passthrough of the optical out?
I connected the optical out of the receiver to the optical in of a HTiB, but I don't think it's working if the input off the receiver is also from one of the Optical in's source input. (I was hoping it was always on 'passthrough')
I'm trying to see if I can use 7.1 with just the HTiB's 5.1 and two Wharfedale's 8.4.
May ma-irerecommend ba kayo na mahusay magrepair ng harman avr aside from the authorized service center? Ayaw tumunog ung front left speaker. Tried connecting other working speaker to check if speaker ang sira pero ayaw pa rin tumunog so baka ung avr ang may problem. Nag back read ako to check reputation ng harman service center and there were bad feedbacks. Thanks
AVR171 sir. 255's are good amp sir, are you using voltage regulators for them?
Yes, I am. The problem is with the HDMI. It can't seem to consistently receive the signal from any of my sources.
Sir AVR 135
Whats your avr's model sir?
Hi Everyone,
I just want to ask which bookshelf speakers, model and brand, can be driven by my amp, Harman Kardon avr240, easily?
Thanks.. :)
HK 170 lang budget ko bossing...
mga sir ano po ba bagay na sub for my HK3390 , im planning to buy one, match kaya ung psw111 ng polk? im using it for pure music lang
May ma-irerecommend ba kayo na mahusay magrepair ng harman avr aside from the authorized service center? Ayaw tumunog ung front left speaker. Tried connecting other working speaker to check if speaker ang sira pero ayaw pa rin tumunog so baka ung avr ang may problem. Nag back read ako to check reputation ng harman service center and there were bad feedbacks. Thanks
I have an HK AVR 255 for my HT setup. I'm using it in a 5.1 setup for three years although it is capable of 7.1 setup. I'm using all Mission speakers. Just recently, I bought a second hand Konzert surround speakers to try the 7.1 capability of the AVR 255. I'm hearing some scratching sound from the right surround back channel! What do you think causes this. I'm afraid it will damage the speaker in the long run hence I returned to 5.1 setup.
Hi. I jist want to ask how you guys set up the optical input. Is there a special setting you do when you use an optical source.
Im currently using an hk990 and i cant seem to play using an optical input