Topic: Plasma vs LCD ?

[ferdinand]

+1 ako dito.. for almost 3 months ako nag suffer sa backlight bleeding, halos tuwing manonood ako ng movie eh yung bleeding na lang tinitingnan ko sa LED ko.. hahaha, nakatatlong unit ako.. from 32D4003 to 32D4000 talagang meron bleeding.. sa plasma kahit hindi FullHD talagang black is black.. uniformity ng screen kapag blank eh 100%.. gone are those sleepless nights.. hopefully hindi ko naman maranasan yung sinasabing "floating blacks" at kung meron man ayoko ng hanapin.. hehehe ignorance is a bliss.. mahirap pa yung marami kang nalalaman.. just my two cents.. yun lang power hungry ang plasma..

Mahina rin naman yung consumption ng plasma sa bagong modelo.  i bought 50x30, halos ganun din naman ang bill ko sa koryente.

[cryptile]

pare pareho tayo. Backlight bleeding ang unang napapnsin ko kapag nanonood sa lcd/led and it's really annoying kaya i bought myself a budget 42x30 for the living room. Meron ba plasma na 32" lang? pang room lang sana kasi d kasya 42 sa room ko.

[titoteko]

regular tv program via cable i suggest plasma. if you're into deep superb definition lcd/led for me. must have high end definiton player or superb multi media source to enjoy its detailed and crisp images.

[Clondalkin]

regular tv program via cable i suggest plasma. if you're into deep superb definition lcd/led for me. must have high end definiton player or superb multi media source to enjoy its detailed and crisp images.

How can an LED/LCD have deeper definition than a Plasma kung parehong 1080p ang screen?  Hehehe.

[comgen]

How can an LED/LCD have deeper definition than a Plasma kung parehong 1080p ang screen?  Hehehe.

Heard from someone, nasasapawan daw kc minsan ng malakas na ilaw yung details sa image. parang sa photography, pag naoover exposed ang pictures nawawala yung details, yung maliit na kulubot nagigining pino.

[Clondalkin]

Heard from someone, nasasapawan daw kc minsan ng malakas na ilaw yung details sa image. parang sa photography, pag naoover exposed ang pictures nawawala yung details, yung maliit na kulubot nagigining pino.

In which case, e di lesser definition ang LED/LCD?  hehehe

Tignan nyo mabuti kung aling image quality ang parang makapal ang foundation sa face and less defined ang edges.  hehehe.  The complexion has it, and the hair sa arms pa pala.  saan mas balbon? hehehe

[comgen]

In which case, e di lesser definition ang LED/LCD?  hehehe

Tignan nyo mabuti kung aling image quality ang parang makapal ang foundation sa face and less defined ang edges.  hehehe.  The complexion has it, and the hair sa arms pa pala.  saan mas balbon? hehehe

hmmmm my take is definition is the no of pixels etc. thus me high definition. yung details ang mas maganda pag sa plasma or LCD compared to LED

[comgen]

or mali ako haha..... basta ang nagustuhan ko with lcd and plasma compared to led, mas ok ang black levels at mas kita nga yung detalye.

[nerveblocker]

Just bought a 2nd hand wii and when I demoed it sa Sony Bravia LCD ng nagbebenta, parang major labo.  Inisip ko baka kasi composite video lang ginamit. Still bought the Wii and tested it in my Panny 42PV8 plasma. Aba bakit ang linaw naman with the same connection. Malayo doon sa Bravia.  

[Clondalkin]

hmmmm my take is definition is the no of pixels etc. thus me high definition. yung details ang mas maganda pag sa plasma or LCD compared to LED

The number of pixels are the same of course so tabla in terms of math.

Try to examine the image quality of high end full array local dimming LED models like the Sharp Quatron, Bravia 9XXX and Regza Zxx - very impressive.  Sa biglaang tingin, parang plasma - until you look closely at the complexion.  NOT impressive nga lang ang price AND POWER CONSUMPTION (TAKE NOTE!) compared to high end plasmas.

I like the comfort of passive 3D though.  

[ninjababez®]

I like the comfort of passive 3D though.  

i agree, i never had to used the 2nd 3d glass that came with my 3dtv.  1st glass was just used for testing and occasional visitors who just want to checkout my 3dtv (pang yabang lang )

[Philander]

Mahina rin naman yung consumption ng plasma sa bagong modelo.  i bought 50x30, halos ganun din naman ang bill ko sa koryente.

Same for me, mas matagal pa nga ang viewing time ko ngayong nakaplasma ako (ganda ng picture quality eh).... same lang naman sa power consumption and electric bill ko ngayon.

[barrister]

Panasonic Plasma Picture Performance Pummels Pretenders with VT50 HDTV Series
By Chris Boylan



... The TC-P55VT50 plasma HDTV is a CES Innovations Awards Honoree and it's easy to see why.  The black level improvement can be attributed to an enhanced pre-discharge control that enables the panel to get darker and reach these black levels faster than previous models.  The TV's panel, now referred to as the "Infinite Black Pro Panel" consists of a new plasma cell structure and phosphors, with improved luminous efficiency and higher brightness compared to earlier models.  Also, the screen itself has an improved filter in front of the panel, designed to absorb more ambient light, with less glare, which allows the picture to retain its pop even in a fairly bright room.

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Panasonic-Plasma-Picture-Performance-Pummels-Pretenders-in-2012-VT50-HDTV-Series.shtml

[ferdinand]

Just bought a 2nd hand wii and when I demoed it sa Sony Bravia LCD ng nagbebenta, parang major labo.  Inisip ko baka kasi composite video lang ginamit. Still bought the Wii and tested it in my Panny 42PV8 plasma. Aba bakit ang linaw naman with the same connection. Malayo doon sa Bravia.  

You can only see the big difference if you have lcd and plasma tv, comparing each other,  malayong malayo ang agwat ng plasma.   Sa viewing angle palang, dapat lagi kang nasa harap ng lcd heheheh, hindi puede nakahiga ka o nasa extreme left or right iba na yung picture, hindi katulad ng plasma, swabe talaga at hindi ma iritate yung mata mo.

[Clondalkin]

Ang katih!!!  2-3 years pa muna with the V2.  Kailangan manood ng manood sa V2 para instant kalimot ng itch.  Stay away from store muna.

Panasonic Plasma Picture Performance Pummels Pretenders with VT50 HDTV Series

... The TC-P55VT50 plasma HDTV is a CES Innovations Awards Honoree and it's easy to see why.  The black level improvement can be attributed to an enhanced pre-discharge control that enables the panel to get darker and reach these black levels faster than previous models.  The TV's panel, now referred to as the "Infinite Black Pro Panel" consists of a new plasma cell structure and phosphors, with improved luminous efficiency and higher brightness compared to earlier models.  Also, the screen itself has an improved filter in front of the panel, designed to absorb more ambient light, with less glare, which allows the picture to retain its pop even in a fairly bright room. [/size]

[oReOsHaKe]

regular tv program via cable i suggest plasma. if you're into deep superb definition lcd/led for me. must have high end definiton player or superb multi media source to enjoy its detailed and crisp images.

   Hindi ko gets..

[FrancisS]

VT50, a suitable upgrade from the V20. hehehe.

[oReOsHaKe]

Panasonic Plasma Picture Performance Pummels Pretenders with VT50 HDTV Series
By Chris Boylan



... The TC-P55VT50 plasma HDTV is a CES Innovations Awards Honoree and it's easy to see why.  The black level improvement can be attributed to an enhanced pre-discharge control that enables the panel to get darker and reach these black levels faster than previous models.  The TV's panel, now referred to as the "Infinite Black Pro Panel" consists of a new plasma cell structure and phosphors, with improved luminous efficiency and higher brightness compared to earlier models.  Also, the screen itself has an improved filter in front of the panel, designed to absorb more ambient light, with less glare, which allows the picture to retain its pop even in a fairly bright room.

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/Panasonic-Plasma-Picture-Performance-Pummels-Pretenders-in-2012-VT50-HDTV-Series.shtml

Magkano naman kaya ito.  65VT30 at Amazon is around $3k. 

[Clondalkin]

Should be similarly priced as the VT30 when it was released in March 2011 (was it around 5K for the 65V model?).  Kaya nga mahirap bumili ng March-April if your interests are the high end models.  At least since 2009, there always seems to be compelling reason to pay the premium price for the newer flagship models.

Definitely cheaper than equivalent top of the line LEDs - if it's any consolation.

Magkano naman kaya ito.  65VT30 at Amazon is around $3k. 

[Clondalkin]

7,800 OKU (100,000,000) Yen or $10B loss for Panasonic in 2011

2,800 OKU Yen or  $3.6B loss for Sony in 2011

2,100 OKU Yen or  $2.7B loss for Sharp in 2011

What's gonna happen to the biggest Japanese HDTV makers?

The ones who are predicting profits are those who have or are going to steer away from TV manufacture, and have concentrated on systems, services, and other things.


No more "Made in Japan" plasmas and LCDs I guess.  I hope plasma TV manufacture survives somehow, kahit na puro made in Southeast Asia.

[SymphonyX7]

regular tv program via cable i suggest plasma. if you're into deep superb definition lcd/led for me. must have high end definiton player or superb multi media source to enjoy its detailed and crisp images.

That's the most idiotic thing I've heard in a while.

[desertfox615]

i like the prices of plasma nowadays. been looking at the 40-42" plasmas. corcern ko lang is the high wattage.

i would do a feasiblity study muna. compute my TV viewing time per day, factor in the wattage of LCD vs Plasma and decide from there.

another issue ko is the reflective screen of the plasmas.

here's the room where i plan to put in the TV. would plasma suffer from glare? your LCD-LED be more practical?

wifey like the LCD-LED TVs dahil sobrang nipis. I'm more concern with Function over Form...Please, i would appreciate inputs from you. The TV you see there is a 32" Sharp LCD TV.

here's the link.

http://desertfox615.multiply.com/photos/album/48/Mobile_Uploads#photo=1

don't know how to embed image here.

[45caliber]

i like the prices of plasma nowadays. been looking at the 40-42" plasmas. corcern ko lang is the high wattage.

i would do a feasiblity study muna. compute my TV viewing time per day, factor in the wattage of LCD vs Plasma and decide from there.

another issue ko is the reflective screen of the plasmas.

here's the room where i plan to put in the TV. would plasma suffer from glare? your LCD-LED be more practical?

wifey like the LCD-LED TVs dahil sobrang nipis. I'm more concern with Function over Form...Please, i would appreciate inputs from you. The TV you see there is a 32" Sharp LCD TV.

here's the link.

http://desertfox615.multiply.com/photos/album/48/Mobile_Uploads#photo=1

don't know how to embed image here.

Though mataas ang rated power consumption ng plasma.. based on my observation from my last month electric consumption eh parang ganun din, kung tumaas man ng konti eh hindi naman ganun kalaki, the fact na galing ako sa 32" LED plus nag upgrade din ng 42" LED ang tatay ko from a 22" LED, comparing our electril bill nung december.. to january with the plasma at 42" LED.. parang ganun din, yung number of hours ng viewing ko hindi naman nagbago...

yung reflective screen.. yun may konting issue for me lalo na kapag tanghali.. medyo reflective nga, sa gabi naman okey pag madilim na...

yung slim factor naman.. hindi naman ganun kakapal ang plasma nowadays, nadagdagan lang ng 40-50%.. so kung 1inch yung LCD/LED.. mga 1.5inch naman ang plasma.. samsung ang unit ko at hindi naman siya ganun kakapal...

pinaka magandang factor ng plasma is yung picture quality.. wala ako masabi, screen uniformity, details, pag sinabing black.. black talaga, hindi mo nga makikita or madistinguish yung black boarders nung widescreen kapag naging madilim yung palabas... yung issue ng screenburn or IR so far hindi ko pa naman na-encounter since day one,

[desertfox615]

45caliber,

based dun sa pic ko. do you think magkakaroon ako ng too much glare pag plasma gamit ko? yung glare ba niya e parang katulad ng glare din pag naka CRT ako?

[45caliber]

45caliber,

based dun sa pic ko. do you think magkakaroon ako ng too much glare pag plasma gamit ko? yung glare ba niya e parang katulad ng glare din pag naka CRT ako?

kung nasubukan mo ang glare sa CRT mo, i think walang pagkakaiba kung plasma, halos same lang sila ng reflective characteristic..  better kung lagyan mo ng curtain yung bintana mo, or slightly rotate mo yung screen sa opposite direction ng bintana.. maselan lang naman siya kapag masyadong maliwanag

[ninjababez®]

i don't know if it's just me.  i noticed LED TV screens have reflective screen compared to LCDTV screens, can't really compare it with a plasma as i haven't seen them side by side.

[Clondalkin]

Both (reflective and flat) are available especially sa high-end full array LED models.

The glossy high end Bravia is very very reflective.

i don't know if it's just me.  i noticed LED TV screens have reflective screen compared to LCDTV screens, can't really compare it with a plasma as i haven't seen them side by side.

[raider125jeigh]

i don't know if it's just me.  i noticed LED TV screens have reflective screen compared to LCDTV screens, can't really compare it with a plasma as i haven't seen them side by side.

hehehe

puro daw kasi LED na high end binibili mo hahaha


ako i prefered LCD pa din bihira kasi me magcable viewing - eat bulaga lang ako hehehe
saka gaming and movies lang ako


ganda talaga ung plasma sa cable viewing

[comgen]

hehehe

puro daw kasi LED na high end binibili mo hahaha


ako i prefered LCD pa din bihira kasi me magcable viewing - eat bulaga lang ako hehehe
saka gaming and movies lang ako


ganda talaga ung plasma sa cable viewing

bakit po sa cable viewing sir ang plasma?

based on my own experience, Plasma TVs has a better Picture Quality compared to that of LEDs and LCDs, kc pinagtabi ko yung LED, LCD and PLasma sa isang shop sa harison plaza. Yung details nababawasan sa LED at LCD, sample yung butas sa mukha ng tao, sa liwanag ng LED minsan natatabunan at nawawala yung mga butas sa mukha or in photography terms parang Over Exposed ang picture.

ang alam kong disadanvantage is Magastos sa kuryente, mas makapal, medyo mas mainit, at pag maliwanag ang viewing area at wala kang control sa lighting medyo me reflections. Pero Picture quality wise malayong mas maganda ang Plasma

[raider125jeigh]

bakit po sa cable viewing sir ang plasma?

based on my own experience, Plasma TVs has a better Picture Quality compared to that of LEDs and LCDs, kc pinagtabi ko yung LED, LCD and PLasma sa isang shop sa harison plaza. Yung details nababawasan sa LED at LCD, sample yung butas sa mukha ng tao, sa liwanag ng LED minsan natatabunan at nawawala yung mga butas sa mukha or in photography terms parang Over Exposed ang picture.

ang alam kong disadanvantage is Magastos sa kuryente, mas makapal, medyo mas mainit, at pag maliwanag ang viewing area at wala kang control sa lighting medyo me reflections. Pero Picture quality wise malayong mas maganda ang Plasma

hindi masakit sa mata ung plasma
kabitan mo ng baron super antenna ung plasma /led /lcd hehehe

ganda ng plasma
I preferred LCD vs plasma

Sa gaming mas ok response time ng lcd vs plasma
Meron kasing disadvantage and advantage and lcd/led and plasma

Piliin mo kung saan ka magbebenefit

Me LCD kasi hindi ko kayang bumili ng high end na LED hahaha
LCD – GOOD FOR GAMING ang watching HD coming from PS3/Bluray/Media Player
Disadvantage ng plasma
Malakas sa kuryente /gaming sakto lang / may burn issue