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Entertainment => Film & TV Talk => Pinoy Entertainment => Topic started by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2012 at 12:41 AM
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http://showbiznest.blogspot.com/2012/05/claudine-barretto-raymart-santiago-vs.html
heres the video watch it guys
http://www.trending.ph/2012/05/mon-tulfo-vs-raymart-santiago-and.html
mods palipat kung wala sa tamang category
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i'll follow this. :)
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subs..
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ang taba ni claudine hehehe....
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grabe pala ugali ni claudine. barretto signature. Ingrata.
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“Mga Kristiyano po kami at hindi kami sinungaling.”
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Parang iba ang nakita sa video na ginawa nila,..
Abusado,..
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mga guard kasi humawak kay tulfo aun nagulpi tuloy dapat kapag aawat hindi ganun
parang away bata kapag inawat ka hinawakan ka, ung kaaway mo panay sapak sayo
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“Mga Kristiyano po kami at hindi kami sinungaling.”
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Parang iba ang nakita video na ginawa nila,..
Abusado,..
;D ;D ;D
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sana nga ma-pull up yung cctv para makita kung sino talaga unang nanakit.
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Sabi nga nila, money can't buy class.
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mga guard kasi humawak kay tulfo aun nagulpi tuloy dapat kapag aawat hindi ganun
parang away bata kapag inawat ka hinawakan ka, ung kaaway mo panay sapak sayo
Mukhang yung naka-gray shirt lang ang tumutulong kay Raymart at Claudine. Yung mga guards umaawat lang.
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Mukhang yung naka-gray shirt lang ang tumutulong kay Raymart at Claudine. Yung mga guards umaawat lang.
problem ung pagawat kay mon si raymart di naawat nung sumasapak na
hehehe
mamaya for sure e issue to sa pinas hahaha
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anong tawag sa ganitong sitwasyon?
aaaaah
win-win.
;D
seriously though, let's wait til there's proof on who started what. 51-49 sakin si Mon may kasalanan, extortionist kasi siya, if totoong sinasabon nung babae yung cebu pac girl, don't mistake his videoing of the situation as "helpful". he plans to "sell" it back to the couple, that's just how he works.
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Parang mas maganda pa ito cotto vs. mayweather na laban. :)
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problem ung pagawat kay mon si raymart di naawat nung sumasapak na
hehehe
mamaya for sure e issue to sa pinas hahaha
Ambilis kasi ni Raymart kaya hindi kaagad naawat ng mga guwardiya. Pagkahawak ng kasama nya kay Tulfo hindi na tinantanan si Tulfo, buma-backup pa sa likod si Claudine. Ayun umupo na lang si Tulfo pagkatapos magulpi. ;D
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Resbakan kaya ng T3 ( Tulfo Bros) si Raymart at Claudine? ;D
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http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/06/12/cebu-pacific-staff-say-claudine-verbally-abused-them
Claudine with her infamous swearing + opportunistic Tulfo seeing a big scoop for his (brothers) show + action-star retread Santiago = TV networks happiness
Tulfo clearly got a good beatdown ..... and I thought he was a black-belt in something.
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Tulfo was held by the idiot guards. Take advantage tuloy itong santiago and his friend (gray shirt). Its like 4, make that 5 (kasama si baretto) against one.
seriously though, let's wait til there's proof on who started what. 51-49 sakin si Mon may kasalanan, extortionist kasi siya, if totoong sinasabon nung babae yung cebu pac girl, don't mistake his videoing of the situation as "helpful". he plans to "sell" it back to the couple, that's just how he works.
yeah ive heard a lot of this MO by tulfo, they say thats the way he makes part of his living.
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oh well match naman cla kaso, veteran na c tulfo c raymart i think a black belter in taekwondo.dpat s ring nlng nla gwin yan, bigyan ng gloves ung 2
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http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/06/12/cebu-pacific-staff-say-claudine-verbally-abused-them
Claudine with her infamous swearing + opportunistic Tulfo seeing a big scoop for his (brothers) show + action-star retread Santiago = TV networks happiness
Tulfo clearly got a good beatdown ..... and I thought he was a black-belt in something.
Scum versus scum, really.
Now let's all take a backseat and enjoy the drama and blodshed, shall we? ;D
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Palengkera.
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win-win.
;D ;D
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Palengkera, ingrata, etc. Kahit Ano pa sya, super yummy pa din si Claudine!
Tulfo met his match! Buti nga sa kanya!
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Now watching morning news at aksyon tv anchored by erwin tulfo.. :D
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Balita ko magsusumbong daw sa T3 si Mon ??? ;D
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lintik lang ang walang ganti - Tulfo Brothers
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Mukhang yung naka-gray shirt lang ang tumutulong kay Raymart at Claudine. Yung mga guards umaawat lang.
saw the video of the brawl. the one with the gray shirt is Raymart and not the one with the pink collared shirt. on the interview inside the precinct Raymart was wearing a gray shirt.
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ito malamang topic mamaya sa senate at congress..
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Mas may class pa yung mga tindero't tindera sa palengke
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Kung sina Claudine at Raymart kaya ang magsumbong sa T3.. hehehe! ;D
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Kung sina Claudine at Raymart kaya ang magsumbong sa T3.. hehehe! ;D
T3 as in terminal 3! hahaha!
dati si Claudine ay suki ng MMK, ngaung wala na sya sa ch. 2 (at mejo laos na sya), baka gusto na nya magshift ng karir sa MMA? ;D :D ;D
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Hirap pala magulpi in front of national TV, mukhang basang sisiw si mon tulfo.
For sure nangagalaiti na mga tulfo brothers ;D
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It is more fun to watch the T3 now ;D I am actually curious on how the Tulfo brothers handle this case on their show -- hahamon-hamunin kaya nila si Raymart? hehehe! abangan natin. ;)
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si claudine artista talaga may paiyak-iyak pa sa interview wala naman luha hehehe. tapos sa interview sabi daw nya kay Tulfo "hindi mo man lang naisip na may mga kasama kaming mga bata" eh dun sa video sya pa yung sapak ng sapak sa dulo. celebrities and their big heads ::) si Tulfo malamang yung pagkuha niya ng video gagamitin nyang pang blackmail kay claudine at raymart kaya buti na lang at nabugbogsya. :D
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Balita ko magsusumbong daw sa T3 si Mon ??? ;D
baka kay, "sumbong sumbong kay bonggang bonggang bong bong"
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masyado niyo naman pinuna ginawa nina raymart at cluadine...
isipin niyo na lang ano ang nagudyok kina raymart para bugbugin yang mon tulfo na yan....
masama kasi yang mon tulfo na yan... pagkakaperahan lang niya ung nakita niya sa airport... para namang di niyo alam ugali ng mon tulfo na yan....
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si claudine artista talaga may paiyak-iyak pa sa interview wala naman luha hehehe. tapos sa interview sabi daw nya kay Tulfo "hindi mo man lang naisip na may mga kasama kaming mga bata" eh dun sa video sya pa yung sapak ng sapak sa dulo. celebrities and their big heads ::) si Tulfo malamang yung pagkuha niya ng video gagamitin nyang pang blackmail kay claudine at raymart kaya buti na lang at nabugbogsya. :D
Same thing my wife said. Lakas nyang gamitin yung anak nya, pero tama bang makita din ng mga anak nya na sabunin yung staff ng Cebu Pacific o makita nanay nilang sakyan si Tulfo at makisapak?
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masyado niyo naman pinuna ginawa nina raymart at cluadine...
isipin niyo na lang ano ang nagudyok kina raymart para bugbugin yang mon tulfo na yan....
masama kasi yang mon tulfo na yan... pagkakaperahan lang niya ung nakita niya sa airport... para namang di niyo alam ugali ng mon tulfo na yan....
So in your opinion, what the couple did was justified?
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If you think deeply about it, wala kasalanan si tulfo eh (as much as i hate to say that). He was just doing what any low-level paparazzi does, take pics/videos then sell it. I think theres a ruling that if youre in a public place everyone has a right to take your pic even without your consent.
Sila santiago ang may kasalanan nito based on that video. Sila yung nag attack based dun. And you will see tulfo is on top of that guy in pink until hawakan sya ng mga guard at nag-take advantage na yung santiago camp.
Tulfo should win this case in court and make money after all :D
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isipin niyo na lang ano ang nagudyok kina raymart para bugbugin yang mon tulfo na yan....
pagkakaperahan lang niya ung nakita niya sa airport...
ung walang minura mura si claudine, eh wala sanang scoop na pagkakakitaan c tulfo. at kung walang na-offload na bagahe, wala dapat mumurahin c claudine :D
pero ang tanong, kung naoffload ang baggage mo, dapat mo bang mura-murahin ang pagkatao at i-threat na ipadidismiss ung ground stewardess?
i think, this is on claudine, kacheapan agad na nagtatalak sa airport
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Kras na kras ko pa man din si Claudine noong AngTV days. :-\
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actually, both Tulfo and Claudin got what they deserved for being what they are: one an opportunist and the other a big head. kay Raymart lang ako medyo nakiki-simpatiya since he's only doing his job as a husband. kung ibang tao siguro kumukuha ng picture/video puwede pa sana pero alam naman natin lahat ugali ng mga Tulfo.
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para sa akin this issue wouldn't have happened kung hindi nakisawsaw si tulfo. kung nagsisigaw sila claudine sa cebu pac then dapat yung cebu pac ang gumawa ng aksiyon. hindi naman defenseless ang cebu pac management para ipagtanggol pa ni tulfo.
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actually, both Tulfo and Claudin got what they deserved for being what they are: one an opportunist and the other a big head. kay Raymart lang ako medyo nakiki-simpatiya since he's only doing his job as a husband. kung ibang tao siguro kumukuha ng picture/video puwede pa sana pero alam naman natin lahat ugali ng mga Tulfo.
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wag muna tayo maghusga dahil di pa naman nakikita ang buong pangyayari. kung sinabon man yung cebu pac na attendants, kahit naman sino na nawianan ng bagahe magagalit din. yun naman angulo na sa public place e kahit sino pwede kuhanan without permission mali rin yun (sa media ako nagwo work kaya embedded samin yan). wala namang law against it pero unethical or something to that effect. how would you feel na nangagalaiti ka dahil di mo na alam ang nangyari sa bagahe mo tapos may tao na kuha ng kuha ng picture mo? pero base dun sa video may matinding dahilan kung bakit gakit na galit si claudine (which makes me think na baka nga totoo na tinadyakan siya ni tulfo na dun sa presinto ay hirap na hirap siya sagutin yung paratang na yun). isa pang pinagtataka ko e kung bakit aantayin pa ni tulfo na magsampa ng kaso sila raymart bago siya magsampa? kung talagang agrabyado ka di ba ikaw ang init na init na magsampa?
dos centavos lang mga kapatid, kapamilya at kapuso ;)
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i'll wait for the CCTV record. But based on the video uploaded in youtube, talagang gulpi si Tulfo. Knowing the Barreto's tsk tsk. Sila nga magkakapatid nag aaway.. hehehe
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wag muna tayo maghusga dahil di pa naman nakikita ang buong pangyayari. kung sinabon man yung cebu pac na attendants, kahit naman sino na nawianan ng bagahe magagalit din. yun naman angulo na sa public place e kahit sino pwede kuhanan without permission mali rin yun (sa media ako nagwo work kaya embedded samin yan). wala namang law against it pero unethical or something to that effect. how would you feel na nangagalaiti ka dahil di mo na alam ang nangyari sa bagahe mo tapos may tao na kuha ng kuha ng picture mo? pero base dun sa video may matinding dahilan kung bakit gakit na galit si claudine (which makes me think na baka nga totoo na tinadyakan siya ni tulfo na dun sa presinto ay hirap na hirap siya sagutin yung paratang na yun). isa pang pinagtataka ko e kung bakit aantayin pa ni tulfo na magsampa ng kaso sila raymart bago siya magsampa? kung talagang agrabyado ka di ba ikaw ang init na init na magsampa?
dos centavos lang mga kapatid, kapamilya at kapuso ;)
i was thinking the same while watching the interview. he's the one who got assaulted they why not be the first one to sue?
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alam ko hindi talaga ugali ng mga tulfo ang magsampa ng kaso kung simpleng away lang naman. dyan naman ako bilib sa kanila. kaso sila claudine ata balak magsampa kya napilitan mag sampa si tulfo.
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saw the video of the brawl. the one with the gray shirt is Raymart and not the one with the pink collared shirt. on the interview inside the precinct Raymart was wearing a gray shirt.
sa tingin ko nagpalit ng damit nung interview eh ;D
nagpalit kaya sila nung totoong naka gray kung sakaling makasuhan sila? ::) ::)
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Shocking but I had a great laugh! Reminds me of the Hulk beating the hell out of Loki!!!
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Ayos ito... parang eksena lang sa action movies...
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sa tingin ko nagpalit ng damit nung interview eh ;D
nagpalit kaya sila nung totoong naka gray kung sakaling makasuhan sila? ::) ::)
i don't think so. dun sa video kasi kitang-kita yung mukha ni raymart nung na-awat na sila. saka malaki katawan ni Raymart yung naka-pink di naman ganun kalaki.
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kung ang nagtrigger ay ung supposedly pagiging opportunistic paparazzi ni tulfo, then what could be said of the person who camcorded at uploaded the incident in youtube?
kung nagkataong ndi "busy" ay gugulpihin rin kaya ni raymart ung nagvideo ng "Hulk Smash moment" ng claudine? ;D :D ;D
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saw the video of the brawl. the one with the gray shirt is Raymart and not the one with the pink collared shirt. on the interview inside the precinct Raymart was wearing a gray shirt.
Watched the video again. Si Raymart nga yung naka-gray at yung bumabanat na naka-pink yung kasama nila. Yung mga guards parang nanunuod lang muna kung anong mangyayari bago umawat. :)
I would like to know what the ground attendant statement as well para malaman talaga kung ano ang pinagsasabi ni Claudine sa kanya.
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i coudnt care less kung sino ang nagsimula sa kanila, its just amusing to see tulfo getting beat up like that. lol! everyone knows kasi na saksakan ng yabang ng mga Tulfo brothers. On the part of claudine, well... im not at all surprised sa ugali nya. lucky for us they met at the right place at the right time. :D
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Sorry, but I don't see why this should make it to the headlines yesterday. There are more relevant issues journalists should cover. Kaso si Tulfo ang naging headline ngayon haha how ironic
Mahirap talaga ang naaawat o nangaawat kasi sila lagi ang nagugulpi. ;D
We haven't seen the events before the footage (looks like cellphone camera) in this thread so no way of knowing who started the fight. I think Raymart/Claudine's party heated up when Mon Tulfo started taking footages of the couple and of course Raymart (being the hero of his wife) didn't like it. It will put a bad light on his wife again being a martyr for this Barretto sibling.
Ewan ;D
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kanina sa DZBB may ininterview si arnold na andun din sa terminal. she said that tulfo really pushed/kicked claudine first when claudine was asking her " bakit mo kame kinokodakan?!".
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i'll wait for the CCTV record. But based on the video uploaded in youtube, talagang gulpi si Tulfo. Knowing the Barreto's tsk tsk. Sila nga magkakapatid nag aaway.. hehehe
kanina sa DZMM, NAIA confirmed na wala ( or was it sira, basta bottom line walang nacapture) silang CCTV sa area na yon. ???
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eto naisip ko..
1. nagwawala si CB..
2. nilabas ni tulfo ang phone at pinicturan/videohan
3. nairita si claudine.. mainit na kasi ang ulo.. baka di napansin si tulfo yun..
4. nakita ni reymart.. to the rescue...
5. all hell broke loose..
to our entertainment... ;D
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heard tulfo's side on dzmm earlier. "may nakita akong matrona na maganda ang mukha.. (referring to claudine)". wahaha ;D ;D ;D
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kanina sa DZBB may ininterview si arnold na andun din sa terminal. she said that tulfo really pushed/kicked claudine first when claudine was asking her " bakit mo kame kinokodakan?!".
very doubtful that a known journalist (with many witnesses around) would suddenly kick a girl.
I have to see the cctv to believe this.
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Same thing my wife said. Lakas nyang gamitin yung anak nya, pero tama bang makita din ng mga anak nya na sabunin yung staff ng Cebu Pacific o makita nanay nilang sakyan si Tulfo at makisapak?
A very good point sir indie boi! Okay lang ba makita/marining ng mga anak na manigaw at magmura nanay nila? O baka naman, sanay na yung mga anak niya kaya di na naisip ;D
Di raw sila sinungaling at kristiyano sila... barbaric naman....
Still, Cheers!!!
Compaq
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totoo naman kaya na wala daw cctv sa area? tsk tsk tsk...
kung si tulfo nabugbog sa kakakuha ng pics/vid, mas bilib ako sa kumuha ng video na ngayon patok na patok sa buong universe! ;D :D ;)
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I have to see the cctv to believe this.
kanina sa DZMM, NAIA confirmed na wala ( or was it sira, basta bottom line walang nacapture) silang CCTV sa area na yon. ???
so in this case, helpful tlga na merong mabilis sa SCOOP na opportunistic paparazzi na nagkuha ng video at naupload sa youtube (kahit last few sec. ng upakan), at least meron taung entertainment fodder ;D :D ;D
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tingin ko sa side nila claudine yung nagvideo.. based narin sa news na "pinaparelease ni claudine yung video .."
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http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/07/12/no-cctv-video-claudine-raymart-tulfo-fight
no cctv daw. walang mangyari diyan. palamigin lang ang isyu later pagbatiin sila ng mga ninong ninang kumpare kumare connections.
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Ikulong pareho ng magkaselda sila. Pag nagaway sa loob deadma lang dapat mga pulis. Nakakasawa na kasi yung mga news na celebrities behaving badly. Kailangan ata masamplean para umayos ugali nung mga iba.
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i think parehong di yan nagkakilala..
afterwhich siguro parehas silang napa "oh sh*t"... well, i guess more on raymart's side.
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Wala ngang CCTV, meron naman leaked phone video...
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No CCTV? Dagdag bukol na naman sa ka-airportan natin ito... tsk tsk tsk. ??? >:(
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very doubtful that a known journalist (with many witnesses around) would suddenly kick a girl.
I have to see the cctv to believe this.
Inamin ni tulfo sa gma7 na sinipa nya... at base sa mga witness, yes the group was vocal about their frustration pero walang nagmumura, just a normal scene at an airport when some passengers are disappointed about the airlines service. Sakit ng cebupac yan, yung bagahe mo nasa next flight kasi puno or naiwan kasi.
Sabit si tulfo dyan kaya nga hindi sya magsasampa ng kaso, unless magsampa yung kabila. Lakas siguro mg tawa ni ping lacson ngayon.
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so si tulfo ang unang sumipa? or naunang sumuntok si raymart?
maga mukha ni tulfo na medyo mamula mula ;D
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Inamin ni tulfo sa gma7 na sinipa nya... at base sa mga witness, yes the group was vocal about their frustration pero walang nagmumura, just a normal scene at an airport when some passengers are disappointed about the airlines service. Sakit ng cebupac yan, yung bagahe mo nasa next flight kasi puno or naiwan kasi.
Sabit si tulfo dyan kaya nga hindi sya magsasampa ng kaso, unless magsampa yung kabila. Lakas siguro mg tawa ni ping lacson ngayon.
inamin nya but he said he might have accidentally kicked her when he was down (being held by the security guards) and claudine was hitting him from above.
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di ko nakita yung gasgas ni claudine sa legs dun sa video e..
pero sabi ni raymart sa news, sinipa na daw ni tulfo si claudine after nangyari yung video incident.
tingin ko walang mangyayari sa dalawang ito..
baka magkaroon pa nga ng tv show next time ang 2 to.. isumbong mo kay tulfo, at si raymart ang bubugbog...
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di ko nakita yung gasgas ni claudine sa legs dun sa video e..
pero sabi ni raymart sa news, sinipa na daw ni tulfo si claudine after nangyari yung video incident.
tingin ko walang mangyayari sa dalawang ito..
baka magkaroon pa nga ng tv show next time ang 2 to.. isumbong mo kay tulfo, at si raymart ang bubugbog...
Nakita ko yun gasgas sa legs. But parang brown na and nag clot na. Meaning luma na yun wound. Baka pa nga sa Boracay pa yun sugat na yun. And hindi dahil kay Tulfo.
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kala mo mon tulfo magkakapera ka sa ginagawa mong pag video... ano ka.. bugbog ka ngaun...
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di ko nakita yung gasgas ni claudine sa legs dun sa video e..
pero sabi ni raymart sa news, sinipa na daw ni tulfo si claudine after nangyari yung video incident.
tingin ko walang mangyayari sa dalawang ito..
baka magkaroon pa nga ng tv show next time ang 2 to.. isumbong mo kay tulfo, at si raymart ang bubugbog...
pag aagawan ng mga networks yan!
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Inamin ni tulfo sa gma7 na sinipa nya... at base sa mga witness, yes the group was vocal about their frustration pero walang nagmumura, just a normal scene at an airport when some passengers are disappointed about the airlines service. Sakit ng cebupac yan, yung bagahe mo nasa next flight kasi puno or naiwan kasi.
Sabit si tulfo dyan kaya nga hindi sya magsasampa ng kaso, unless magsampa yung kabila. Lakas siguro mg tawa ni ping lacson ngayon.
nangyari samin yan with cebu-pac and caticlan. mahangin/may bagyo nung sumakay ako. diba small airplanes lang puwede sa caticlan, so lahat ng baggage namin sa aklan dinala. sira ang first day namin sa boracay. pero hindi ko naman pinagalitan yung ground crew when we found out. :D
Sadyang iniwan ang LAHAT ng baggage ng all passengers and all flights that day to be diverted to Aklan.
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hinamon daw ng isang tulfo brother si raymart. Now that would be great to watch.
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base sa mga witness, yes the group was vocal about their frustration pero walang nagmumura, just a normal scene at an airport when some passengers are disappointed about the airlines service.
Cebu Pacific Speaks on the Mon Tulfo - Claudine Barretto and Raymart Santiago Airport Fight
"Cebu Pacific ground stewardess Charisse Bocboc and Kristina Anne Ilagan, in their handwritten statements sent to airport authorities, said they were verbally abused by actress Claudine Barretto.
Their statements indicated that Claudine, who arrived from Boracay on Sunday afternoon at the NAIA 3 terminal via Cebu Pacific together with her husband Raymart Santiago, their kids and some other friends, started to cursed them in front of other arriving passengers after she found out that her luggage were left behind in Caticlan airport."
http://showbiznest.blogspot.com/2012/05/cebu-pacific-speaks-on-mon-tulfo.html (http://showbiznest.blogspot.com/2012/05/cebu-pacific-speaks-on-mon-tulfo.html)
their word against her word against his word ::)
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No CCTV? Dagdag bukol na naman sa ka-airportan natin ito... tsk tsk tsk. ??? >:(
nasubukan na airport security natin, wala ng CCTV wala pang kwenta mga gwardya,parang walang training pumigil ng gulo...away palang ni Claudine yan.
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hinamon daw ng isang tulfo brother si raymart. Now that would be great to watch.
Noong nag away si Cesar Montano at Erwin Tulfo 2004 pa ata 'yun, ganoon din ang scenario, naghamon din daw mga Tulfo Bro's kay Cesar Montano nag set ng date at location, pag dating sa location dami daw bodyguards ng mga Tulfo, ang gusto sana ni Cesar one on one lang na suntukan, ang siste hindi natuloy.
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nasubukan na airport security natin, wala ng CCTV wala pang kwenta mga gwardya,parang walang training pumigil ng gulo...away palang ni Claudine yan.
eto rin ang napansin ko sa video. ang dami mga guards pero walang nagawa para pigilan ang pangyayari
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Kailangan mas may training yung mga guards sa paligid. Minsan kasi ang security guards dito satin pang display lang. Pag may totoong security issue na, hindi sila equipped to respond appropriately. Fistfight pa lang yun nagkagulo na, papano pa kung armed ang mga yan.
Pero it's also obvious na hindi alam nung guards ang gagawin nila because they normally do not encounter these things. Normal people don't do these things, lalo na sa public places. Masyadong marami na lang talagang uncivilized egomaniacs sa showbiz, media at politics satin, when they should be protecting their reputation.
It's funny how we still see endorsements from people with such bad records. O kaya how we elect officials na alam ng lahat na di maganda ang nakaraan. Hindi ko alam kung may effect pa ang morality sa image ng tao sa society natin. Mga popular celebrities at yung mga taong nakikita mo sa billboards sa edsa, di ko alam sa dinadamidami ng pwedeng pagpilian bat sila pa. Parang kelan lang eh na senate hearing pa yung isa due to indecency, tapos ngayon sikat na endorser ng products? May dalawang rebelde sa senado, at humahabol ng pagkamayor ang ex-president na convicted of plunder (at malaking chance manalo). Parang ang short-term ng memory ng madami. Just saying...
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It's funny how we still see endorsements from people with such bad records. O kaya how we elect officials na alam ng lahat na di maganda ang nakaraan. Hindi ko alam kung may effect pa ang morality sa image ng tao sa society natin. Mga popular celebrities at yung mga taong nakikita mo sa billboards sa edsa, di ko alam sa dinadamidami ng pwedeng pagpilian bat sila pa. Parang kelan lang eh na senate hearing pa yung isa due to indecency, tapos ngayon sikat na endorser ng products? May dalawang rebelde sa senado, at humahabol ng pagkamayor ang ex-president na convicted of plunder (at malaking chance manalo). Parang ang short-term ng memory ng madami. Just saying...
Very true.
Imagine, the biggest endorser in the country is Kris Aquino, nuff said.
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packing sheet!
bakit walang CCTV?(airport walang CCTV)
hindi kami pinanganak kanina, anong sistema na naman to, anong dahilan to?
nakakahiya na nga yung ginawa nila, tapos sasabihin niyo na walang CCTV, e di mas nakakahiya yun, ano na lang iisipin ng iba..(its more fun in the philippines?wow masaya pala yang ganyan)
imbes na bumili ng CCTV para sa airport, ayun sa bahay ng mga unggoy nilagay ang CCTV.
bulok na bulok na ang sistema dito sa pilipinas, wala na ba talagang pagbabago.
kung hindi pa magsusuntukan sa airport, hindi pa malalaman na walang CCTV dun.
NILAMON NG SISTEMA!
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Rayweather vc Cottong!
Seriously, I wont question Claudine's behavior, CP gets that all the time and they should be used to it.
I will question Tulfo's behavior which is quite typical. The biggest question to me is why is it only now that this hard hitting reporter gets a good ol' fashioned clobbering?
As Bobby Paquiao said..."That was a blow blow!!" ;D
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Oo nga bakit walang CCTV? Di ba come December, Terminal 3 would start accepting international carriers na? Nakakahiya naman.
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I don't blame Tulfo. Kung may makita akong nanggugulo ilalabas ko rin phone ko para ma-record. There's nothing unethical about taking footage in a public space of a person being abused by another person. It's our right to document events that are unjust.
Still, I have no sympathy whatsoever for both parties ;D
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Ang saya-saya! Lahat sila may kasalanan! Cebu Pacific dahil palpak. Sina Claudine lagi namang napapa-away. Si Mon Tulfo, arrogant na bayaran at sina Raymart and friends na di kayang makipaglaban ng one on one. Action star pa naman vs senior citizen. They all deserve our disgust!
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Yung CCTV yata naka tutok sa baggage carousel, and baka nangyari doon sa area na hindi abot ng CCTV. Sana ipalabas yung kuha ng CCTV at that time para makita na hindi talaga kita.
Nangyari din sa akin naiwan ang baggage. And talagang iinit ulo mo.kasi lahat ng tao na kasabay mo umuwi na and ikaw lang naiwan kasi hinihintay ang baggage. Pero if magmura ka, it will not change the situation. iwan pa din ang baggage mo. kaya useless ang magalit and magmura. just deal with it nalang. Kaya pag travel, always handcarry at least one set of clothes. para if maiwan or mawala baggage mo, meron ka pampalit damit for a day.
Kaya ang cause si claudine, ang effect, nabugbog si tulfo..
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I don't blame Tulfo. Kung may makita akong nanggugulo ilalabas ko rin phone ko para ma-record. There's nothing unethical about taking footage in a public space of a person being abused by another person. It's our right to document events that are unjust.
Still, I have no sympathy whatsoever for both parties ;D
same here sir. nakakahiya si claudine, parang walang pinag aralan.
yung ibang roles niya sa movies paawa effect, in real life ganon pa din. ::)
btw, she used to be my neighbor a couple of years ago. ;D
madalas ko nakakasabay sa elevator.. she looks and smells good! :D
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same here sir. nakakahiya si claudine, parang walang pinag aralan.
yung ibang roles niya sa movies paawa effect, in real life ganon pa din. ::)
btw, she used to be my neighbor a couple of years ago. ;D
madalas ko nakakasabay sa elevator.. she looks and smells good! :D
ah, dun ako sa huli... ;D
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good unbiased read..
http://getrealphilippines.com/blog/2012/05/raymart-claudine-tulfo-in-excellent-airport-brawl/
Raymart, Claudine, Tulfo in excellent airport brawl
May 7, 2012
By benign0
Bad breeding is at the heart of most issues that plague Philippine society and its culture of dysfunction. It is endemic at the macro level and ingrained at the micro levels — at the very threads that are woven into the very fabric of the national soul. This is evident in the manner with which manifestations of bad breeding amongst Filipinos transcends class, profession, and age. Certainly media personalities Raymart Santiago, Claudine Barretto, and Ramon Tulfo were not above succumbing to the condition.
Ramon Tulfo is an aging populist crusader known best for his slogan “Isumbong mo kay Tulfo” (“tell Tulfo what’s bugging you”) and a television show he hosts that sports the phrase as its title. He is also a columnist for the Inquirer.net. Raymart Santiago and Claudine Barretto are a husband-and-wife celebrity couple who were at their prime in the mid- to late-1990s.
Considering all involved parties’ respective affiliations to various media conglomerates, the stories in “news” reports may vary depending on corporate bias. But the gist can be summarised in a few bullet points:
(1) Claudine and Raymart are at arrival area of the Ninoy Aquino International Airport (NAIA) Terminal 3 just off a flight from Boracay while Tulfo had also reportedly arrived in a flight from Davao. All parties were patrons of Cebu Pacific Air.
(2) Tulfo spots Claudine loudly verbally abusing ground personnel over “mishandled” baggage.
(3) Tulfo starts recording a video snapping photos of the spectacle with his mobile phone.
(4) Raymart gets mad and attempts to take the phone from Tulfo.
(5) Fists start flying.
Interestingly, Cebu Pacific seems to be a common denominator underlying bad and tasteless behaviour in da Pinas. Perhaps it has something to do with a really simple formula: Cheapskates flying Cebu Pacific + mediocre service + crappy airport = bad attitudes and hot tempers on landing. It seems, conditions are always quite in alignment for this sort of thing to happen in a land of oppressively hot and humid weather inhabited by tribes of self-important people. Of course, what makes this particular incident excellent media fodder is its illustrious cast of characters: has-been artista couple brawling with an aging populist crusader.
Considering the plight of former A-List celebrities struggling to remain relevant in today’s far more fast-paced media landscape of reality show products and viral stars, one can argue that Claudine and Raymart are victims too – they were caught flatfooted on video flying on a budget and then complaining about bad service.
Sayaw Pinoy, sayaw.
Speaking of which, isn’t Cebu Pacific famous for dancing flight attendants?
There you go.
Abangan ang susunod na kabanata. Until then, isumbong niyo kay Tulfo.
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ah, dun ako sa huli... ;D
wala ako paki sa ugali niya, katawan lang niya ang habol ko (when she was less chubbier) LOL
seriously, my neighbors even filed a formal complaint against her. medyo *ahem* pang R-18 eh but it has something to do with her ex-bf (RIP)
back on topic..
when claudine and raymart was interviewed yesterday, alam ba nila na someone took a video of what they did?
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Raymart's side:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGsLdHZgnAg&feature=share
2nd Round na pala yun video sa youtube
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Di pa paawat si Lolo Mon Tulfo: Di daw nya nakilala agad si Claudine kasi mataba na daw siya. Oh Sssnap!!! May part 3 ang rumble na ito!!! paki-kwento kahit sa PM yung complaint ng neighbor na pang R-18!!! ;D
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paki-kwento kahit sa PM yung complaint ng neighbor na pang R-18!!! ;D
minimum of 10 PDVD members dapat mag request :D
hindi daw nakilala ni raymart si mon tulfo? naku, hindi ba niya alam warfreak ang clan na yan. ;D
next time.. kilalanin muna ang tao bago gulpihin. ;)
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sama na ako dyan :)
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minimum of 10 PDVD members dapat mag request :D
hindi daw nakilala ni raymart si mon tulfo? naku, hindi ba niya alam warfreak ang clan na yan. ;D
next time.. kilalanin muna ang tao bago gulpihin. ;)
haha! + 1 sama ako!
tatlo na! 7 more to go! paging sir anya! i'm sure you'd like to receive this piece of gossip! haha!
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wala ako paki sa ugali niya, katawan lang niya ang habol ko (when she was less chubbier) LOL
seriously, my neighbors even filed a formal complaint against her. medyo *ahem* pang R-18 eh but it has something to do with her ex-bf (RIP)
back on topic..
when claudine and raymart was interviewed yesterday, alam ba nila na someone took a video of what they did?
lol. OT, gusto ko yan blind item na yan sir with the ex-bf (RIP) --count me in, all i have is about the other ex-bf na dating naliko ng landas.. (from a reliable source (security escort),, trip daw ng mama is hahabul-habulin yung gerl na hubut-hubat. dunno, if this is the guy's trip or hers. ) :P
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I don't blame Tulfo. Kung may makita akong nanggugulo ilalabas ko rin phone ko para ma-record. There's nothing unethical about taking footage in a public space of a person being abused by another person. It's our right to document events that are unjust.
Still, I have no sympathy whatsoever for both parties ;D
more so because tulfo is a journalist.
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LOL. dapat meron din at least 1 positive feedback? ;D
claudine is no angel. the sad thing is, kapwa artista nagsisiraan. and with this recent incident, proves that some artistas tend to get over inflated egos.
yung isang friend ko na girl, good friend niya ang isang female celebrity na married to a PBA player.
dami daw kwento about claudine etc. for me, mas matino naman si female celebrity compared to claudine.
mon tulfo is no angel too, but IMHO what claudine and raymart did was extremely unethical. tignan niyo yung mga ibang tao sa NAIA3 when the incident happened, most of them were probably thinking ''eto ba yung mga pinanood namin sa tv na napapanood din ng mga bata?''
what a shameful act for people who are supposed to be role models ::)
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importanteng medicine nsa bagahe?? ::) ::)
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minimum of 10 PDVD members dapat mag request :D
hindi daw nakilala ni raymart si mon tulfo? naku, hindi ba niya alam warfreak ang clan na yan. ;D
next time.. kilalanin muna ang tao bago gulpihin. ;)
In the interest of public service, just post that complaint here. Wala ng PM. All of the members will definitely thank you for it. :)
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^ ok sir. thanks.. i-spoiler ko na lang :D
my neighbors complained that claudine was ''maingay'' while having sex with her ex-bf (RIP)
dapat pina soundproof niya yung condo unit hehehe
according to the female celebrity friend ng friend ko, claudine is a sex addict daw and malakas gumamit dati ng ecstacy (when the said drug wasn't even that mainstream back then)
according din sa ibang friends of mine na meron celebrity friends, claudine is ''wild'' daw, whatever that means. hehehe
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siguro pag lalong umiingay mas dumidiin hehehehehe
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^ ok sir. thanks.. i-spoiler ko na lang :D
my neighbors complained that claudine was ''maingay'' while having sex with her ex-bf (RIP)
RY?
Eh di ba may nagsabi OD ang kinamatay. Sumubo daw ng marami dahil sa heartbreak. Palabas na lang nila na bangungot or pancreatitis
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RY?
yes. someone told me na nag away pa yung dalawa right in front of our condominium building a few weeks before RY passed away. i remember seeing them once sa main entrance, waiting for their ford expedition to pick them up.
of all my celebrity neighbors (past and present), si claudine yung pinaka snub IMHO. yung iba, friendly to the point na sila pa ang mag start ng conversation. she still has a unit in that certain condo where i live, pero pinaparent na lang daw.
i guess what happened yesterday was meant to happen, so every living person can see her true colors.
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Erwin Tulfo denies challenging Raymart Santiago to a fistfight, but ready to face the actor over "coffee" (http://www.pep.ph/news/34001/Erwin-Tulfo-denies-challenging-Raymart-Santiago-to-a-fistfight,-but-ready-to-talk-over-coffee)
gusto lang pala ni erwin magusap lol ;D
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Erwin Tulfo denies challenging Raymart Santiago to a fistfight, but ready to face the actor over "coffee" (http://www.pep.ph/news/34001/Erwin-Tulfo-denies-challenging-Raymart-Santiago-to-a-fistfight,-but-ready-to-talk-over-coffee)
subtle aggression :D ;D
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nagtataka lang ako bakit wala pa sa Hot or Not thread si CB... ;D
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nagtataka lang ako bakit wala pa sa Hot or Not thread si CB... ;D
pwede din sa hot for no one but hot for you thread ;D
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nagtataka lang ako bakit wala pa sa Hot or Not thread si CB... ;D
baka murahin at awayin ni claudine yung magpopost dun ::) ;D :D
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pwede din sa hot for no one but hot for you thread ;D
pwede din... baka kasi hindi na hot :D :D :D
baka murahin at awayin ni claudine yung magpopost dun ::) ;D :D
oo nga ano? "maingay" pa naman siya... ;D ;D ;D
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mas na excite pa ako sa laban nito kesa sa boxing kahapon eh..hehehehe. ;D
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This should serve as an example for both parties. Hehe! Sana maayos ng kape. ;D
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Ginamit na naman ng mga Tulfo ang programa nila para pagbantaan yung magasawa. Di ba clear case na ito ng grave threat at nakabroadcast pa?
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mas na excite pa ako sa laban nito kesa sa boxing kahapon eh..hehehehe. ;D
hahaha.. yup, sinabi niyo pa. ;D
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importanteng medicine nsa bagahe?? ::) ::)
My thoughts exactly. What if sa flight nangailangan ng gamot?
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^ ok sir. thanks.. i-spoiler ko na lang :D
my neighbors complained that claudine was ''maingay'' while having sex with her ex-bf (RIP)
dapat pina soundproof niya yung condo unit hehehe
according to the female celebrity friend ng friend ko, claudine is a sex addict daw and malakas gumamit dati ng ecstacy (when the said drug wasn't even that mainstream back then)
according din sa ibang friends of mine na meron celebrity friends, claudine is ''wild'' daw, whatever that means. hehehe
Sana nirecord yung noisy condo unit.
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Grabe very interesting topic di pa tapos ang araw 5 pages na!
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Sana nirecord yung noisy condo unit.
sana may naglagay ng CCTV err i mean hidden cam. ::)
pao9307, you reading this? :D ;D
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sana may naglagay ng CCTV err i mean hidden cam. ::)
pao9307, you reading this? :D ;D
patay tayo diyan.. pati dito, nadikit na ang pao9307.. ;D
:-X :-X
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apparently nag banta ang tulfo brothers kay raymart na sana wag magtagpo landas nila? why?is it because nasaktan yung kapatid nila? eh di tama ;ang ginawa ni raymart kase kaya lang naman nya pinisikal si mon tinadyakan at tinulak asawa nya, kahit ako mananapak din pag ganun.
ang dami ko ng nakitang nagalit dahil di nakuha ang gusto, yun pa kayang tadyakan ang asawa mo di ka magwawala.
labas na sa usapan yung ugali ni claudine problema nya yun, kung di nanakit si tulfo wala sigurong gulo
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labas na sa usapan yung ugali ni claudine problema nya yun
i disagree sir. it was her extreme attitude problem which started all of this. i would hate to experience that lost luggage thing, but kailangan ba murahin or pahiyain in public yung staff ng cebu pacific? i would probably be pissed too but not to the point of making a major scene in a public place.
feeling kasi ni claudine, she's all high and mighty compared to other people.
she doesn't know a thing or two about humility. ::)
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i disagree sir. it was her extreme attitude problem which started all of this. i would hate to experience that lost luggage thing, but kailangan ba murahin or pahiyain in public yung staff ng cebu pacific? i would probably be pissed too but not to the point of making a major scene in a public place.
feeling kasi ni claudine, she's all high and mighty compared to other people.
she doesn't know a thing or two about humility. ::)
Ang point ata ni sir Onlyo, assuming you are correct, huwag papatulan kasi babae.
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Ang point ata ni sir Onlyo, assuming you are correct, huwag papatulan kasi babae.
but do you think mon tulfo's kick was intentional? if it was, obviously mali siya dun. i think he admitted that he did, BUT it was unintentional (according to him) since nagkakagulo na.
there's no right or wrong here IMHO, but more of which or who is the lesser evil. :P
ang point ko kasi, if not for claudine's public outburst (which she is notoriously known for), this wouldn't have escalated to the point of a public celebrity death match.
1. claudine's public outburst ---> 2. mon tulfo taking pictures ---> 3. celebrity death match
take away no.1 = no.2 and 3 wouldn't have happened
or if you would think about it, cebu pacific talaga ang may kasalanan?
1. cebu pacific's crappy service 2. claudine's public outburst ---> 3. mon tulfo taking pictures ---> 4. celebrity death match
take away no.1 = no.2, 3, and 4 wouldn't have happened
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bakit kasi nag seat sale sila? hehehe
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Heard from the news that Raymart claims that what was shown in the video was what happened after Mon Tulfo had already kicked and pushed Claudine and not the start of the commotion.
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but do you think mon tulfo's kick was intentional? if it was, obviously mali siya dun. i think he admitted that he did, BUT it was unintentional (according to him) since nagkakagulo na.
there's no right or wrong here IMHO, but more of which or who is the lesser evil. :P
ang point ko kasi, if not for claudine's public outburst (which she is notoriously known for), this wouldn't have escalated to the point of a public celebrity death match.
1. claudine's public outburst ---> 2. mon tulfo taking pictures ---> 3. celebrity death match
take away no.1 = no.2 and 3 wouldn't have happened
or if you would think about it, cebu pacific talaga ang may kasalanan?
1. cebu pacific's crappy service 2. claudine's public outburst ---> 3. mon tulfo taking pictures ---> 4. celebrity death match
take away no.1 = no.2, 3, and 4 wouldn't have happened
Lesser evil nga naman. ;D
Pero mikec naman was also a victim of the crappy service. Pero he did not verbally abused the attendant naman. Yun na nga, Claudine's outburst.
pero maski naman mag-outburst si Claudine, kung walang kukuha ng video, walang mang=aagaw ng camera. :D
So:
1. claudine's public outburst ---> 2. mon tulfo taking pictures ---> 3. celebrity death match
take away no.1 = no.2 and 3 wouldn't have happened
Take away no. 2, and 3 wouldn't happen also. :D
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parang ang layo ni claudine nung nagsuntukan sila raymart and tulfo, malamang nasipa sya nung nakahiga na si tulfo..
Heard from the news that Raymart claims that what was shown in the video was what happened after Mon Tulfo had already kicked and pushed Claudine and not the start of the commotion.
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Here's the epic T3 clip wherein the Tulfos threaten Raymart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQ2YEwZQdA&feature=youtu.be
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not siding with any parties but the career of both actors are over. di kelangan magpakyut si mon sa camera. not unless mala gabby sina raymart but it'll take time before the networks will hand them projects again. i think.
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Here's the epic T3 clip wherein the Tulfos threaten Raymart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQ2YEwZQdA&feature=youtu.be
D raw gagamitin ang programa pero andami namang satsat ;D
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i "face to face" na lang nila yan... wahahaha..
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i disagree sir. it was her extreme attitude problem which started all of this. i would hate to experience that lost luggage thing, but kailangan ba murahin or pahiyain in public yung staff ng cebu pacific? i would probably be pissed too but not to the point of making a major scene in a public place.
feeling kasi ni claudine, she's all high and mighty compared to other people.
she doesn't know a thing or two about humility. ::)
im not saying tama sya, what im saying is what provoked raymart to get mad and gulpuhin si tulfo, im setting aside yung ginawa ni claudine, what im driving at is why raymart did what he did to tulfo, yung kay claudine ibang usapan naman, kung walanghiya syang tao, may makakatapat din sya but kung yung asawa mo pinag mumura yung kapitbahay mo dahil sa may nagawang di tama tapos yung kapitbahy mo tindyakan yung asawa mo im sure magwawala ka din
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Naaawa nga ako kay Raymart, parang napasubo na lang. Nagdilim siguro ang paningin nang masipa si Claudine.
Ang sinisisi ko, sina Claudine at Mon. Magsagupa ba naman ang parehong mayabang, giyera patani talaga ang resulta.
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Wala raw CCTV video. A BIG LIE!
If that's the case, talagang makakalusot ang mga terrorists dito sa Pinas ksi palpak pala un CCTV system sa airport thus National Security is threatened.
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i "face to face" na lang nila yan... wahahaha..
or the old school "square"... tutal mukhang di naman nagkakalayo timbang nila :)
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same here sir. nakakahiya si claudine, parang walang pinag aralan.
yung ibang roles niya sa movies paawa effect, in real life ganon pa din. ::)
btw, she used to be my neighbor a couple of years ago. ;D
madalas ko nakakasabay sa elevator.. she looks and smells good! :D
Agree ako dyan bro ;D di bale nang siraulo basta huwag lang ako tutukan ng galit ;D ;D ;D
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i "face to face" na lang nila yan... wahahaha..
(http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/533344_376598282377130_224811567555803_968336_914778297_n.jpg)
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Kung sobrang taas ng tingin nila sa sarili nila, wag na silang mag-tipid at makisiksik sa cebu-pac! Dun sila sa "level" nila --- mag-rent na lang sila ng private jet kung gusto nila!!! Bwiset!!! Ooops!!
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This is what i never liked.
Away ng dalawa marami pang idadamay na mga influencial people or should i say influencial people involved themselves sa mga kaguluhan tulad ng paninindak at pananakot imbes na ipag ayos nlng ang conflict between the two parties involved.
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isa pang pinagtataka ko e kung bakit aantayin pa ni tulfo na magsampa ng kaso sila raymart bago siya magsampa? kung talagang agrabyado ka di ba ikaw ang init na init na magsampa?
may mga taong di mahilig sa demandahan, dagdag gastos at abala't boring sa mga hearing, areglo din naman kalalabasan... mas exciting ang hunting-an / gantihan hihihihi...
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Here's the epic T3 clip wherein the Tulfos threaten Raymart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZQ2YEwZQdA&feature=youtu.be
wala na to men. tinanggal na dahil ebidensiya ito ng threat. haha. basta celebrity man o hindi, may mga pagkakataon na iinit din ang ulo ng tao. kung magagalit ang asawa ko dahil may palpak na serbisyo di na ko makikialam dun. pero pag sinaktan siya ng pisikal ibang usapan na yun.
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may mga taong di mahilig sa demandahan, dagdag gastos at abala't boring sa mga hearing, areglo din naman kalalabasan... mas exciting ang hunting-an / gantihan hihihihi...
Talagang exciting yon, basta ibang tao ang naghahantingan at nag-gagantihan.
Pero pag ikaw na ang hinahanting at ginagantihan, ewan ko lang ... :D
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Tama ba:
1) Claudine nagtatalak...
2) Mon Tulfo kuha ng photo / video...
3) Raymart Lapit kay Tulfo to get cellphone...
4) Mon Tulfo pushes / punches Raymart...
5) Away na si Raymart and Mon Tulfo...
6) Claudine and others to the rescue...
7) Bugbog sarado si Mon Tulfo?
Di ko ma-gets bakit issue yung pagsipa kay claudine eh diba melee na nun?
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Un mga paninindak at pananakot ng mga TULFO in public against Raymart and Claudine, is that for real?
D nalang hayaan magsuntukan sina Mon at Raymart to settle the issue tutal JUDO expert naman si Mon khit may edad na at si Raymart action star lng.
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Teka, dapat sapakin din ni Raymart yung guard na nag awat kay Claudine kse sa 'hinaharap' nya hinawakan eh. Parang nananadya di bumitaw ;D.
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Tama si Tulfo, kitang kita sa video na to na nagmura si Claudine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhVGCb4_bOg
;D
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Tama si Tulfo, kitang kita sa video na to na nagmura si Claudine:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhVGCb4_bOg
;D
lol ang lutong inulit ulit pa ;D
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Sa napanood ko na interview sa magkabilang kampo, ang basa ko, mukhang sa aregluhan din hahantong ang kaguluhan. Medyo nagkakahiyaan pa lang sa ngayon at naghihintay lang siguro ng tamang emisaryo ang mga boxers este mga involved na tao. ;D
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pero kung sinipa ni Mon Tulfo at itinulak si Claudine na syang ikinagalit ni Raymart and company para bugbugin ng todo si Mon... the Big Question is... What provoked Mon Tulfo to do that to Claudine???
imo, di naman siguro babanatan na lang nya yung babae in front of the public ng wala lang di ba?
??? ??? ???
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my thoughts exactly...medyo mahirap paniwalaan yung version ni claudine of what happened :D
pero parang wala nang way of knowing...popcorn mode nalang haha
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I expect maglalabasan ang mga expose ng mga tulfo brothers lalo na kay CB. Mga "hot for no one but hot for you" images/vids cguro hehe
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And eto pa ang isa, During the live interview in 24 Oras early this evening... Raymart told Mike Enriquez that when he asked Mon Tulfo "Sir, Ano po yang ginagawa nyo", he was 2 meters away daw kay Mon, the question now is, Papaano naman sya aabutin ng Suntok at Sipa ni Mon ng ganung kalayo ??? ??? ???
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pero kung sinipa ni Mon Tulfo at itinulak si Claudine na syang ikinagalit ni Raymart and company para bugbugin ng todo si Mon... the Big Question is... What provoked Mon Tulfo to do that to Claudine???
imo, di naman siguro babanatan na lang nya yung babae in front of the public ng wala lang di ba?
??? ??? ???
And eto pa ang isa, During the live interview in 24 Oras early this evening... Raymart told Mike Enriquez that when he asked Mon Tulfo "Sir, Ano po yang ginagawa nyo", he was 2 meters away daw kay Mon, the question now is, Papaano naman sya aabutin ng Suntok at Sipa ni Mon ng ganung kalayo ??? ??? ???
Sakto. Kung ikaw, nagvi-video ka ng kaguluhan tapos may nagtanong sa iyo kung bakit ka nagvi-video, ang unang reaksyon mo ba ay susuntukin mo yung nagtatanong sa iyo? ???
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Sakto. Kung ikaw, nagvi-video ka ng kaguluhan tapos may nagtanong sa iyo kung bakit ka nagvi-video, ang unang reaksyon mo ba ay susuntukin mo yung nagtatanong sa iyo? ???
malamang ito na yung sinasabi nilang nag aagawan dun sa cellphone ni tulfo. and this is where he possibly "allegedly" kicked claudine. mahirap lang mag conclude agad kasi hindi naman natin alam ang tunay na pangyayari.
ang dilemma ko lang dito ay mambubugbog ba ko ng senior citizen? probably not, depende siguro sa gravity nung sitwasyon at kung gaano ka angas yung senior. :D i'm sure kahit senior na si tulfo malakas pa rin yan. (he was able to take down the guy in pink). naiisip ko lang kasi paano kung magulang mo yung binugbog ng ganoon?
isa lang ang malinaw dito: mock up lang yung mga CCTV cameras sa NAIA. to think na ang tapang ng mukha nilang mangulimbat ng "terminal fee"
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Pinagmamayabang pa kanina ng misis nung "guy in pink" ang fighting skills ng mister nya. So disgusting. >:(
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im not saying tama sya, what im saying is what provoked raymart to get mad and gulpuhin si tulfo, im setting aside yung ginawa ni claudine, what im driving at is why raymart did what he did to tulfo, yung kay claudine ibang usapan naman, kung walanghiya syang tao, may makakatapat din sya but kung yung asawa mo pinag mumura yung kapitbahay mo dahil sa may nagawang di tama tapos yung kapitbahy mo tindyakan yung asawa mo im sure magwawala ka din
yeah i do understand that it was raymart's natural instinct to defend his wife. at siyempre, mon tulfo taking pics or videos of the said incident made matters even worse. i am in no way a fan of this very controversial columnist (maybe he indeed deserved what happened to him), but things could have been avoided if a certain someone just decided to STFU and dealt with the crappy service of Cebu Pacific in another way. a good question is.. was there another way?
had dinner with a friend of mine earlier, isa yan sa topic namin since she wasn't aware of what happened last sunday afternoon sa NAIA3. ayaw pa maniwala kaya sabay tingin sa youtube on her ipad. she asked me a very interesting question that im going to ask on this thread. (which sir Onkyo606 also posted on his recent post)
if you were in raymart's shoes, ano gagawin niyo? seeing that someone took pictures or videos of your wife publicly berating someone else.
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gma phone interview with "Anna" who was at the scene
http://youtu.be/QoPlsiMLo_U (http://youtu.be/QoPlsiMLo_U)
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yeah i do understand that it was raymart's natural instinct to defend his wife. at siyempre, mon tulfo taking pics or videos of the said incident made matters even worse. i am in no way a fan of this very controversial columnist (maybe he indeed deserved what happened to him), but things could have been avoided if a certain someone just decided to STFU and dealt with the crappy service of Cebu Pacific in another way. is there another way?
had dinner with a friend of mine earlier, isa yan sa topic namin since she wasn't aware of what happened last sunday afternoon sa NAIA3. ayaw pa maniwala kaya sabay tingin sa youtube on her ipad. she asked me a very interesting question that im going to ask on this thread. (which sir Onkyo606 also posted on his recent post)
if you were in raymart's shoes, ano gagawin niyo? seeing that someone took pictures or videos of your wife publicly berating someone else.
first of all, i wouldnt let my partner berate somebody in public.. lagi naman ako pagpasensyahan na.. unless of course kami ang pinahiya...
second.. if somebody is videoing us.. i would call the attention of security and report that person.. bat ako vinivideo? while its true that he has a right to videotape any place, i think when it comes to videoing a private person, its borderline crossing my privacy... pero, kung ako ay artista or a public figure, dapat sanay na ako sa videohan na yan.. nagtataka ako bakit pa nainis yung 2 artista e sanay naman yan humarap sa camera.
im not rooting for tulfo as well, actually, i thought that somehow, what happened to him at will be an eye opener (pardon unintented irony) to wake him up and put his feet back to the ground.
naisip ko lang is, wat if di si mon tulfo yun or some unknown fan or civilian, im sure mabubully yan ni raymart.
naisipko rin, kung tmz kumukuha ng pic or vid, would they have reacted the same? i mean, thinking about it, yung mga paparazzi sa usa hindi nila pwede galawin diba? as long as youre far away and you dont lay a hand? tama ba ako?
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naisipko rin, kung tmz kumukuha ng pic or vid, would they have reacted the same? i mean, thinking about it, yung mga paparazzi sa usa hindi nila pwede galawin diba? as long as youre far away and you dont lay a hand? tama ba ako?
i remember an episode of TMZ where kanye west destroyed a paparazzi's camera ;) gerard butler is also aloof with paparazzis. kasi nga kahit public figure nakaka irita pa rin yun. iba iba lang talaga mag react sa ganyan ang iba't ibang mga artista. TMZ has had their own share of hostile celebrities
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i remember an episode of TMZ where kanye west destroyed a paparazzi's camera ;) gerard butler is also aloof with paparazzis. kasi nga kahit public figure nakaka irita pa rin yun. iba iba lang talaga mag react sa ganyan ang iba't ibang mga artista. TMZ has had their own share of hostile celebrities
ok, what did tmz do? did they sue? i mean, under what protection are they hiding under?
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Tulfo brothers threaten Raymart, Claudine (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/05/07/12/tulfo-brothers-threaten-raymart-claudine)
by Jojo Malig, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 05/07/2012 9:15 PM | Updated as of 05/07/2012 11:16 PM
Raymart afraid as Tulfos vow revenge (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/07/12/raymart-threatened-tulfos-vow-revenge)
ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 05/07/2012 9:05 PM | Updated as of 05/07/2012 10:43 PM
Tulfo mauling an attack on press freedom - NPC (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/05/07/12/tulfo-mauling-attack-press-freedom-npc)
by David Dizon, ABS-CBNnews.com
Posted at 05/07/2012 4:41 PM | Updated as of 05/07/2012 5:08 PM
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first of all, i wouldnt let my partner berate somebody in public.. lagi naman ako pagpasensyahan na.. unless of course kami ang pinahiya...
second.. if somebody is videoing us.. i would call the attention of security and report that person.. bat ako vinivideo? while its true that he has a right to videotape any place, i think when it comes to videoing a private person, its borderline crossing my privacy... pero, kung ako ay artista or a public figure, dapat sanay na ako sa videohan na yan.. nagtataka ako bakit pa nainis yung 2 artista e sanay naman yan humarap sa camera.
im not rooting for tulfo as well, actually, i thought that somehow, what happened to him at will be an eye opener (pardon unintented irony) to wake him up and put his feet back to the ground.
naisip ko lang is, wat if di si mon tulfo yun or some unknown fan or civilian, im sure mabubully yan ni raymart.
naisipko rin, kung tmz kumukuha ng pic or vid, would they have reacted the same? i mean, thinking about it, yung mga paparazzi sa usa hindi nila pwede galawin diba? as long as youre far away and you dont lay a hand? tama ba ako?
+1
Ang tanong, bakit pa itatanong ni Raymart si Tulfo kung bakit nya kinukunan ng litrato asawa nya? Una, celebrity sila. Pangalawa, nagkakaroon ng eksenang gulo dahil sa asawa nya. Pangatlo, celebrity asawa nya na gumagawa ng eksena.
Syempre may kukuha ng litrato at video nila. Mapa-celebrity sila o hindi. May eksenang nangyayari, may kukuha talaga nyan.
Kung walang nangyayari at walang purpose na kumuha ng litrato o mag-video, talagang kailangan i-question sa security. Pero may gulo eh (sinasabon ni claw-claw yung flight crew) kaya justified na may kumuha, private citizen man yan o hindi. Kung walang gulo, walang kodakan.
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first of all, i wouldnt let my partner berate somebody in public.. lagi naman ako pagpasensyahan na.. unless of course kami ang pinahiya...
second.. if somebody is videoing us.. i would call the attention of security and report that person.. bat ako vinivideo? while its true that he has a right to videotape any place, i think when it comes to videoing a private person, its borderline crossing my privacy... pero, kung ako ay artista or a public figure, dapat sanay na ako sa videohan na yan.. nagtataka ako bakit pa nainis yung 2 artista e sanay naman yan humarap sa camera.
im not rooting for tulfo as well, actually, i thought that somehow, what happened to him at will be an eye opener (pardon unintented irony) to wake him up and put his feet back to the ground.
naisip ko lang is, wat if di si mon tulfo yun or some unknown fan or civilian, im sure mabubully yan ni raymart.
naisipko rin, kung tmz kumukuha ng pic or vid, would they have reacted the same? i mean, thinking about it, yung mga paparazzi sa usa hindi nila pwede galawin diba? as long as youre far away and you dont lay a hand? tama ba ako?
tumbok mo!
kaso wa-class eh...
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(http://i.imgur.com/Cermu.jpg)
the look on raymart's face = priceless
ngayon natatakot sila. pero last sunday when they were mauling someone, akala mo hari at reyna ng pilipinas.
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I find it more disturbing that our airport (NAIA 3 at that!) has no CCTV or has areas not covered by CCTV. Well, that's where our taxes go. More fun in the Philippines.
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importanteng medicine nsa bagahe?? ::) ::)
LOL. Paimportante lang yan. Sigurado hindi nila first time magtake ng plane ride. Hindi lang sa Cebu Pacific nangyayari yun. Normal procedure ang pagdelay or reroute ng luggage kapag fully loaded ang eroplano with passengers and/or priority luggage. May payload limit ang mga eroplano for safety reasons, kaya normal na hindi yan sinisiksik ng tao, luggage, or both. Nageestimate sila based sa typical luggage weight ng bawat booked passenger plus some margin of safety, hindi based sa maximum luggage allowance ng bawat passenger. Kapag madaming mabigat na karga ang boarding passengers or maraming priority payload na dadalhin, may chance talaga lumampas sa payload limit ng eroplano. In such cases, ang standard procedure eh iwanan ang luggage sa airport at isakay sa next flight to the same destination or ireroute sa ibang flight na may connection to the destination. Kaya nga may carry-on baggage para sa mga essential items.
Summer vacation ngayon kaya normal na punuan ang mga eroplano. Mas malaki ang chance na magkaganyan sa ganitong panahon. If sa ibang bansa nangyari sa kanila yun, magwawala din kaya sila sa airport? I surely doubt that they would. Nagpakabrat lang sila sa Pilipinas kasi feeling nila sikat sila dito. My opinion lang ha.
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I don't buy the medicine excuse (to be rude). If the medicine is a matter of life or death, I would have it with the carry on luggage and not the check in one.
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Malamang yung medicine excuse eh naituro na lang ng manager or network yun. Part ng damage control. :P
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I don't buy the medicine excuse (to be rude). If the medicine is a matter of life or death, I would have it with the carry on luggage and not the check in one.
Exactly ..... if it's all-important medicine, you keep it nearby and quick-access like your hand-carried bags.
Likely a feeble attempt by the retread actors to gain some sympathy points.
I find it more disturbing that our airport (NAIA 3 at that!) has no CCTV or has areas not covered by CCTV. Well, that's where our taxes go. More fun in the Philippines.
Supposedly, the best airport that we have ..... yet no functioning CCTV (or whatever CCTV explanation they have)?
It is indeed more fun in Da Pilipins.
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LOL. Paimportante lang yan. Sigurado hindi nila first time magtake ng plane ride. Hindi lang sa Cebu Pacific nangyayari yun. Normal procedure ang pagdelay or reroute ng luggage kapag fully loaded ang eroplano with passengers and/or priority luggage. May payload limit ang mga eroplano for safety reasons, kaya normal na hindi yan sinisiksik ng tao, luggage, or both. Nageestimate sila based sa typical luggage weight ng bawat booked passenger plus some margin of safety, hindi based sa maximum luggage allowance ng bawat passenger. Kapag madaming mabigat na karga ang boarding passengers or maraming priority payload na dadalhin, may chance talaga lumampas sa payload limit ng eroplano. In such cases, ang standard procedure eh iwanan ang luggage sa airport at isakay sa next flight to the same destination or ireroute sa ibang flight na may connection to the destination. Kaya nga may carry-on baggage para sa mga essential items.
Summer vacation ngayon kaya normal na punuan ang mga eroplano. Mas malaki ang chance na magkaganyan sa ganitong panahon. If sa ibang bansa nangyari sa kanila yun, magwawala din kaya sila sa airport? I surely doubt that they would. Nagpakabrat lang sila sa Pilipinas kasi feeling nila sikat sila dito. My opinion lang ha.
Marami na akong friend whose baggage was offloaded kasi magbigat ang plane. I recall this used to happen a lot sa mga galing US, probably because of the balikbayan boxes.
I've never heard a case wherein the passengers were told beforehand that their baggage was going to be offloaded and my guess is that this is the protocol of the airline. The baggages to be offloaded are selected at random, else mag-away ang passengers on whose luggage is least important. Tama ba ito? Is this the right of the airline? Is this part of the fine print in the airline tickets we buy?
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importanteng medicine nsa bagahe?? ::) ::)
Kayo naman, baka buong medicine cabinet ang dala.
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Claudine may have watched several news clippings of passengers in the airport arguing with CP staf, naging uso kasi ito several weeks pa earlier with the airline. At that time parang pinapanigan ng media ay yung mga kawawang passengers na delay ng kanilang mga flights. "Customer is always right," ika nga sa sitwasyon na kagaya nyan. With that in mind, nadala na rin siguro siya, at nakigaya na lang.
Tulfo was taking the video and Raymart saw the negative attitude of his wife towards the attendants. Feeling the possible danger to the reputation of his wife, at di rin nya maawat ang wife nya sa tingin ko, kaya nya sinita si Tulfo instead of stopping his wife. Tulfo is another "maaskad" na tao kaya i would not expect him to be answering or responding calmly when confronted, kaya yun nagsalpukan.
Under circumstances and the people involved, that "bugbugan" thing was destined to happen. the elemensts were all there i think.
If I were Raymart I should have done the same thing. He started questioning Tulfo in defense to his wife who was uncontrollable at that time. Yun nga lang talaga, mayabang din si Tulfo kaya that thing happened. But truly, in that incident nawala o natabunan na lahat ang kasalanan ni Raymart kay Claudine. Happily ever after na siguro silang dalawa. But they have to endure the cases filed against them. ;)
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Marami na akong friend whose baggage was offloaded kasi magbigat ang plane. I recall this used to happen a lot sa mga galing US, probably because of the balikbayan boxes.
I've never heard a case wherein the passengers were told beforehand that their baggage was going to be offloaded and my guess is that this is the protocol of the airline. The baggages to be offloaded are selected at random, else mag-away ang passengers on whose luggage is least important. Tama ba ito? Is this the right of the airline? Is this part of the fine print in the airline tickets we buy?
Sir Mark, hindi ko po alam kung may fine print sa tickets. Parang wala naman ako napapansin, though I've experienced it with Lufthansa and Delta Air outside our shores. In both cases, the airline company offered to deliver the luggage sa location ko at their expense if I didn't want to pick it up from the airport. Like you, marami din akong kakilala who had gone through the same thing.
I think some people demand for compensation sa ganitong cases, pero most people just let it pass. Minsan may coverage ang travel insurance sa ganitong incidents, so mas madali magclaim kesa magreklamo sa airline company (in case may travel insurance yung traveller). At any rate, walang kagagawan ang ground crew dun sa nangyari so we should not be lashing at them. Formal complaint siguro dun sa airline company for overbooking the flight past the plane capacity, mas acceptable na course of action.
Most airline companies sanay maghandle ng luggage complaints (delayed or lost), dahil common nga siyang nangyayari. Yung hindi common eh yung nagsusuntukan sa airport. LOL.
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Best quote sa interview ni mon sa TV5 with the TV5 legal counsel: ;D
“Sa totoo lang, hindi ko sila kakilala, dahil yung isa, mukhang matrona na mataba. Akala ko kung sino lang. Yun pala, artistang laos na.”
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diba sabi ni Raymart sinuntok kagad sya ni Mon?e bakit hindi kagad sya pumalag nun..chaka bakit parang wla namang bahid na suntok ang mukha niya.
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Most airline companies sanay maghandle ng luggage complaints (delayed or lost), dahil common nga siyang nangyayari. Yung hindi common eh yung nagsusuntukan sa airport. LOL.
Pati yun verbal abuse, hindi din common. :D
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Question regarding off loaded baggage. Will the airline deliver the baggage to your place? Who will pay for your lost time while waiting. And in the event that you have to come back from your place of domicile to the airport who will pay for the cost of you driving back to the airport. Assuming that it's a regularly priced plane fare.
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"Sa totoo lang, hindi ko sila kakilala, dahil yung isa, mukhang matrona na mataba. Akala ko kung sino lang. Yun pala, artistang laos na.” - Mon Tulfo
Ziiiing!!! Antaray ng lola mo, mwahahaha!!!
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With regards to tulfo. He's had it coming.
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first of all, i wouldnt let my partner berate somebody in public.. lagi naman ako pagpasensyahan na.. unless of course kami ang pinahiya...
second.. if somebody is videoing us.. i would call the attention of security and report that person.. bat ako vinivideo? while its true that he has a right to videotape any place, i think when it comes to videoing a private person, its borderline crossing my privacy... pero, kung ako ay artista or a public figure, dapat sanay na ako sa videohan na yan.. nagtataka ako bakit pa nainis yung 2 artista e sanay naman yan humarap sa camera.
im not rooting for tulfo as well, actually, i thought that somehow, what happened to him at will be an eye opener (pardon unintented irony) to wake him up and put his feet back to the ground.
naisip ko lang is, wat if di si mon tulfo yun or some unknown fan or civilian, im sure mabubully yan ni raymart.
naisipko rin, kung tmz kumukuha ng pic or vid, would they have reacted the same? i mean, thinking about it, yung mga paparazzi sa usa hindi nila pwede galawin diba? as long as youre far away and you dont lay a hand? tama ba ako?
Well said.
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Marami rin kasing mga priority luggage na karga ang eroplano aside from yung dala ng passengers. Things like mga dead people for transport and perishables na nakabook din sa flight, which afaik take precedence sa checked-in luggage (otherwise possibleng malaking damages ang sasagutin nung airline company kung yun ang na-delay).
Sa normal luggage naman meron din standard checked-in at priority checked-in luggage. The priority tags are normally given to first class and/or frequent flying passengers. Since the tags are supposed to mean that these checked-in items disembark first, they normally don't get bumped off as easily (so as not to hurt valued clientele). Usually din kasi dinedeliver sa priority lounges yung priority luggage instead of people queueing in to pickup their luggage sa conveyor. Some airlines even allow fairly large in-cabin luggage sa first class passengers. Marami ako nakikita na Japanese and Korean businessmen with no checked-in luggage since they fly first class. Special cabin luggage lang dala nila (bigger than the usual carry-on, mga 15 kilos max) and a carry-on.
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Question regarding off loaded baggage. Will the airline deliver the baggage to your place? Who will pay for your lost time while waiting. And in the event that you have to come back from your place of domicile to the airport who will pay for the cost of you driving back to the airport. Assuming that it's a regularly priced plane fare.
in my case, they delivered our bags sa hotel (but super hassle to fall in line sa local cebpac office and fill up forms)
pero pagnandito ka na sa maynila, hindi ko alam kung dadalhin nila sayo, and matatakot din ako, kasi di hamak na mas maraming milagro dito sa maynila kaysa boracay. manilans>aklanians in terms of miracle work.
lost time? wala. TY na lang.
we complained though and got a SINGLE free ticket (there were 6 of in our group). of course, that single free ticket is technically just a way to get more of my money, kasi none of us will fly alone, so i gave it away. i guess those who don't complain, get nothing.
minus the fact na nasira yung isang luggage namin (nasira yung built in combination zipper lock and battered yung luggage) parang kinaladkad.
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Question regarding off loaded baggage. Will the airline deliver the baggage to your place? Who will pay for your lost time while waiting. And in the event that you have to come back from your place of domicile to the airport who will pay for the cost of you driving back to the airport. Assuming that it's a regularly priced plane fare.
Hindi ko alam ang policy ng ibang airlines, but in my case nagoffer sila ideliver yung luggage sa location ko. If you're really bothered by this, ask your travel agent in advance or kumuha ka ng travel insurance that will cover for this. Minsan kasi may insurance coverage ang incidental costs (like clothes, personal effects, hotel expenses, etc.) caused by such inconveniences.
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i guess those who don't complain, get nothing.
I think that's the case for most, even sa lost luggage pa. :(
For lost luggage, a written claim is often needed aside from the missing luggage form na kinocomplete sa airline office. Ang sad part dun eh madalas kailangan ng RECEIPTS for yung contents nung luggage. I'm pretty sure karamihan ng dala natin sa checked-in luggage eh wala na tayong resibo.
Kaya if bibili ng gamit abroad at iuuwi dito, remember to keep the receipts sa carry-on luggage. Para kung nawala, nasa inyo ang resibo to claim. Makikita nila yung date of purchase and location. Valuables eh as much as possible sa carry-on talaga.
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Sa celphone video, ang liksi-liksi ni Claudine parang tandang. Pero sa mga interview, paika-ika nang lumakad. Ika nga ng Babae sa septic tank, TV Patrol acting!
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Sana daw si Miriam ang naiwanan ng luggage at kinuhaan ni Tulfo habang nagtatatalak. Better than Paquiao / Mayweather fight for sure.
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(http://www.morefunmaker.com/media/entries/i13364401098673.jpg)
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"Sa totoo lang, hindi ko sila kakilala, dahil yung isa, mukhang matrona na mataba. Akala ko kung sino lang. Yun pala, artistang laos na.” - Mon Tulfo
Ziiiing!!! Antaray ng lola mo, mwahahaha!!!
Lame excuse by Tulfo.
Kung ordinary civilian lng ang nagrereklamo at that time, i doubt papansinin pa nya yan para kunan pa ng pics. I'm sure nakilala nya na si Claudine ang nagrereklamo that time.
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Sa celphone video, ang liksi-liksi ni Claudine parang tandang. Pero sa mga interview, paika-ika nang lumakad. Ika nga ng Babae sa septic tank, TV Patrol acting!
pwedeng acting to sell the point na sinipa siya ni mon tulfo. pwede rin namang adrenalin kasi maski si tulfo sinabing nasipa niya si Claudine ng di sinasadya nung napagtulungan na raw siya. usually naman kasi you feel the pain afterwards!
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Siguro kung hindi nakita ni Claudine or Raymart na kinukuhaan sila ng pic or video ni Mon Tulfo, may hot scoop na si Mon Tulfo... "Laos na Artista, nagwala sa airport!"... something to that effect. He can't help it, journalist sya eh.
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Sobrang hot nitong issue na to natabunan na yung isa pang bugbugan sa Makati last weekend.
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Sobrang hot nitong issue na to natabunan na yung isa pang bugbugan sa Makati last weekend.
alin sir ung ke albie casino?
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alin sir ung ke albie casino?
Who is albie casino??? Choz... :P :P :P
Eh kasi mas sikat sila Claudine and Raymart kaya mas masaya pag usapan... haha!
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alin sir ung ke albie casino?
wala bang thread dito sa pambubugbog kay casino?
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Siguro kung hindi nakita ni Claudine or Raymart na kinukuhaan sila ng pic or video ni Mon Tulfo, may hot scoop na si Mon Tulfo... "Laos na Artista, nagwala sa airport!"... something to that effect. He can't help it, journalist sya eh.
may kulang.. modus operandi muna ng mga Tulfo, bago ang hot scoop :)
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Who is albie casino??? Choz... :P :P :P
Eh kasi mas sikat sila Claudine and Raymart kaya mas masaya pag usapan... haha!
siya umano ang tatay ng anak ni andi eigenmann ::)
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pati nga laban ni mayweather at upcoming laban ni manny parang nawala sa news
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pati nga laban ni mayweather at upcoming laban ni manny parang nawala sa news
yung kay mayweather tapos na. yung kay pacquiao di pa nagsisimula. ito katatapos pa lang ng round 1.
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Erwin Tulfo apologizes for threatening remarks on Raymart Santiago; Mon Tulfo says his brothers are at fault
http://pep.ph/news/34022/erwin-tulfo-apologizes-for-threatening-remarks-on-raymart-santiago-mon-tulfo-says-his-brothers-are-at-fault
Eh nakakatakot naman talaga yung "banta" ng mga Tulfo Brothers.... "Raymart.... antabayanan mo ang lintik na ganti ng mga tulfo!" :o
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I heard sa news kanina sa DZBB sabi ni Mike Enriquez, may lumutang na testigo sa kanila, kung ano at sino talaga ang nag simula.
Girl yung witness passenger din ng ibang airline company na nakapila malapit sa kanila.
sabi ng saksi: nakita nga daw na kinukuhanan sila ng video/camera ni Mon when confronted by claudine at kukuhanin ang CP ni Mon itinulak daw si Taba at binigyan ng sipa
sabi din ng witness parang kung fu style daw sa bilis ng pag sipa, alam naman natin na marunong sa slf defense ang T3
dagdag ng witness nagpasigaw daw sya na bakit mo sinipa kababaeng tao nyan, at dun na nag simula rambolan.
wala daw video yung first part, last part na daw kasi ng video yung mga na upload sa youtube.
well hindi pa rin natin alam ang totoo, pwedeng binayaran lang yung witness o pwedeng nag sasabi ng totoo.
let see kung ano pa susunod ng action. Fans ako ng T3
source: DZBB sa programa ni Mike Enriquez tuwing umaga. :)
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You know what I liked about the video.... after the scuffle, Mon stoop up, took his bag, then just walked away..... parang walang nangyaring pambubogbog... :D
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Shocked pa sya nun!
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You know what I liked about the video.... after the scuffle, Mon stoop up, took his bag, then just walked away..... parang walang nangyaring pambubogbog... :D
pag uwi nun masakit sigurado katawan niya
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If you would notice, there are some differences in the details sa mga statements ni Mon Tulfo.
Nung nsa precinct na interview, sabi nya natadjakan nga daw nya at nasuntok si Claudine.
Kahapon sa GMA News, d daw nya gawain and he vehemently deny na sinaktan nya.
In the same interview, nagpakamacho daw sya at hindi nya tinangkang umalis dahil wala nman daw sya dapat katakutan dahil wala syang ginawang mali,
sa column nya sa Inquirer, sabi nya "I placed my cell phone inside the left hip pocket of my paparazzi vest and TRIED TO LEAVE. I was hungry and my car was waiting for me outside the terminal building.
But Raymart stopped me and told me to hand over the cell phone to him.
As he reached for my left hip pocket, I pushed him and turned my back on him TO LEAVE."
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Diba si Raymart hilig sa magsuntok, I remember before there was a taxi driver ba or just a driver who had a traffic altercation w/ him then he hit the guy, it was in the news & I think he was a public official at that time. But for me berating someone in public, I think is way too much. At least we could show some respect ;)
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Manununtok ka tapos matatakot ka ngayon sa ganti syo,..
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sabi ng saksi: nakita nga daw na kinukuhanan sila ng video/camera ni Mon when confronted by claudine at kukuhanin ang CP ni Mon itinulak daw si Taba at binigyan ng sipa
sabi din ng witness parang kung fu style daw sa bilis ng pag sipa, alam naman natin na marunong sa slf defense ang T3
dagdag ng witness nagpasigaw daw sya na bakit mo sinipa kababaeng tao nyan, at dun na nag simula rambolan.
ito rin ang suspecha ko (although miron lang tayo lahat)
kung ung cebu pac ground stewardess nga, pinamumumura ni claudine. eto pa kaya nung inaagaw ang cellphone ni paparazzi mon?
malamang after itulak ni mon tulfo c raymart dhil kinukuha ang celfone, sumugod na si palengkera kaya sya naman ang tinulak at tinadyakan.
parang ang hirap paniwalaan ung statement ni raymart na mahinahon at maamong tupa ung mag-asawa na nagsabing 'ser, ano po ung ginagawa nyo?'
for sure, bukod sa mga flying kick, nagliparan ang mga "P.I. / hijo de P." sa eksenang yan ;D
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For sure paawa epek muna ang mga Santiagos, although mukhang ganun din si MT. Kumukuha ng simpatya. Tapos pareho pa silang di daw kilala ang isa't-isa? HA?! Oh well...
Alam ko may tropang armado din itong si RS at ang sabi nyang natatakot din daw sya sa banta ng T bros. arte lang yun... obserbahan nyo mukha nya sa interview.
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(http://www.spot.ph/files/hot-on-spot-netizens-start-meme-on-claudine-raymart-vs-mon-tulfo-naia-3-brawl/1336439205-Tangina-This-3.jpg)
(http://www.spot.ph/files/hot-on-spot-netizens-start-meme-on-claudine-raymart-vs-mon-tulfo-naia-3-brawl/1336439205-Tangina-This-6.jpg)
(http://www.spot.ph/files/hot-on-spot-netizens-start-meme-on-claudine-raymart-vs-mon-tulfo-naia-3-brawl/1336439205-Basagan-ng-Trip.jpg)
(http://www.spot.ph/files/hot-on-spot-netizens-start-meme-on-claudine-raymart-vs-mon-tulfo-naia-3-brawl/1336439205-Funny-in-Manila.jpg)
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tanong ko lang mga sir sa mga may alam sa batas, ok lang ba talaga kumuha ng pics or vid ang isang tao kapag nasa public place ng walang pahintulot ng kinukuhanan? wala bang proteksiyon dito yung kinukuhanan?
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You know what I liked about the video.... after the scuffle, Mon stoop up, took his bag, then just walked away..... parang walang nangyaring pambubogbog... :D
LOL napansin ko din yan. :D
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If you would notice, there are some differences in the details sa mga statements ni Mon Tulfo.
Nung nsa precinct na interview, sabi nya natadjakan nga daw nya at nasuntok si Claudine.
Kahapon sa GMA News, d daw nya gawain and he vehemently deny na sinaktan nya.
In the same interview, nagpakamacho daw sya at hindi nya tinangkang umalis dahil wala nman daw sya dapat katakutan dahil wala syang ginawang mali,
sa column nya sa Inquirer, sabi nya "I placed my cell phone inside the left hip pocket of my paparazzi vest and TRIED TO LEAVE. I was hungry and my car was waiting for me outside the terminal building.
But Raymart stopped me and told me to hand over the cell phone to him.
As he reached for my left hip pocket, I pushed him and turned my back on him TO LEAVE."
baka kasi alam na niya na walang cctv footage yung umpisa ng gulo at ang lumabas lang na video ay yung sa youtube na di makikitang nasipa o natadyakan niya si Claudine. baka yan ang dahilan sa change of statement niya
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I heard sa news kanina sa DZBB sabi ni Mike Enriquez, may lumutang na testigo sa kanila, kung ano at sino talaga ang nag simula.
Girl yung witness passenger din ng ibang airline company na nakapila malapit sa kanila.
sabi ng saksi: nakita nga daw na kinukuhanan sila ng video/camera ni Mon when confronted by claudine at kukuhanin ang CP ni Mon itinulak daw si Taba at binigyan ng sipa
sabi din ng witness parang kung fu style daw sa bilis ng pag sipa, alam naman natin na marunong sa slf defense ang T3
dagdag ng witness nagpasigaw daw sya na bakit mo sinipa kababaeng tao nyan, at dun na nag simula rambolan.
wala daw video yung first part, last part na daw kasi ng video yung mga na upload sa youtube.
well hindi pa rin natin alam ang totoo, pwedeng binayaran lang yung witness o pwedeng nag sasabi ng totoo.
let see kung ano pa susunod ng action. Fans ako ng T3
source: DZBB sa programa ni Mike Enriquez tuwing umaga. :)
ito yung interview kahapon sa 24 oras dun sa witness na si "Anna."
http://youtu.be/QoPlsiMLo_U (http://youtu.be/QoPlsiMLo_U)
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tanong ko lang mga sir sa mga may alam sa batas, ok lang ba talaga kumuha ng pics or vid ang isang tao kapag nasa public place ng walang pahintulot ng kinukuhanan? wala bang proteksiyon dito yung kinukuhanan?
Pag public place, sabi ng lawyer ni Tulfo, okay lang kumuha ng video and pictures. Pero if nasa private place, bawal kumuha na walang pahintulot. Pero sa paraan ng pagamit mo sa nakuha mo na video or pictures, doon na daw ang kaso. Tama naman kasi kita mo sa mata mo ang ginagawa nila. dinodocument mo lang kung ano nakita mo, and public place yun. Maybe the lawyers here can elaborate/explain further.
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Pag public place, sabi ng lawyer ni Tulfo, okay lang kumuha ng video and pictures. Pero if nasa private place, bawal kumuha na walang pahintulot. Pero sa paraan ng pagamit mo sa nakuha mo na video or pictures, doon na daw ang kaso. Tama naman kasi kita mo sa mata mo ang ginagawa nila. dinodocument mo lang kung ano nakita mo, and public place yun. Maybe the lawyers here can elaborate/explain further.
hmm. so parang walang magagawa yung kinukuhanan. halimbawa kumakain kayo ng family mo sa airport then may media na kumukuha ng pictures from a distance. so hindi mo sila pwede pigilan?
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Tulfo believes that a crime is being committed so he took the video. That evidence can be used in the criminal case to which Tulfo may be a party, such case would be titled People of the Republic of the Philippines P vs. C.Barretto
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hmm. so parang walang magagawa yung kinukuhanan. halimbawa kumakain kayo ng family mo sa airport then may media na kumukuha ng pictures from a distance. so hindi mo sila pwede pigilan?
my take on this,
kung public figure ka, i think no choice ka?since public figure ka e.. thats why may mga resto na may "vip rooms"..
pag private figure ka naman, i think you may tell the resto youre eating na may nagvivideo, they should either ask that person their reason for videoing you..., i mean, security should be a part of their service..
ang alam ko kasi, you also have the right to refuse being videod.. kaya nga pag sa mga tv shows, they blur out the faces...
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Pag public place, sabi ng lawyer ni Tulfo, okay lang kumuha ng video and pictures. Pero if nasa private place, bawal kumuha na walang pahintulot. Pero sa paraan ng pagamit mo sa nakuha mo na video or pictures, doon na daw ang kaso. Tama naman kasi kita mo sa mata mo ang ginagawa nila. dinodocument mo lang kung ano nakita mo, and public place yun. Maybe the lawyers here can elaborate/explain further.
i think ang tinutukoy dyan ay yung publikong lugar, hindi tao. legally wala naman kaso yan. kaso bastos kasi talaga pag kukuha ng video o picture ng walang pahintulot. subukan mo mag ikot ng metro manila at mag take ng random pictures ng mga tao, may magagalit at magagalit sayo. di ka pwede kasuhan pero karapatan din nung tao na tumanggi makuhanan ng video/picture at magalit. pug humantong na sa sakitan, ibang kaso na yun
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hmm. so parang walang magagawa yung kinukuhanan. halimbawa kumakain kayo ng family mo sa airport then may media na kumukuha ng pictures from a distance. so hindi mo sila pwede pigilan?
According to the lawyer, hindi pwede pigilan, as far as pagkuha is concerned. Kung ano gawin nya after pagkuha yun ang pwede may kaso.
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my take on this,
kung public figure ka, i think no choice ka?since public figure ka e.. thats why may mga resto na may "vip rooms"..
pag private figure ka naman, i think you may tell the resto youre eating na may nagvivideo, they should either ask that person their reason for videoing you..., i mean, security should be a part of their service..
ang alam ko kasi, you also have the right to refuse being videod.. kaya nga pag sa mga tv shows, they blur out the faces...
although public figure sila claudine they are still considered private individuals right. medyo magulo tuloy. kasi kung ang depensa lagi ng media eh for documentation parang nabelewala na yung karapatan ng kinukuhan nila.
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Manununtok ka tapos matatakot ka ngayon sa ganti syo,..
hehehe... mukhang walang balita kay Mr. Pink Guy!
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Eh bakit ba nila gusto makuha yung cellphone ni Mon Tulfo? Kasi navideohan ni Mon Tulfo ang pagwawala ni Claudine? Ayaw nila makita ng tao ang pagwawala ni Claudine sa airport? Tapos nung binubugbog na nila si Mon Tulfo, nakalimutan din nila na pwede sila naman ang vinivideo?
Nahilo ako... teka. Ang gulo kasi nila. ;D
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i think ang tinutukoy dyan ay yung publikong lugar, hindi tao. legally wala naman kaso yan. kaso bastos kasi talaga pag kukuha ng video o picture ng walang pahintulot. subukan mo mag ikot ng metro manila at mag take ng random pictures ng mga tao, may magagalit at magagalit sayo. di ka pwede kasuhan pero karapatan din nung tao na tumanggi makuhanan ng video/picture at magalit. pug humantong na sa sakitan, ibang kaso na yun
That would depend on the situation. If you are just walking and nothing to hide, okay lang kunan ka na walang pahintulot. Nangyari na sa akin yan. Everytime attend ako alumni homecoming may babae na kinukunan ako( sa isip ko, kasi kasama batchmates). One time attend ako seminar, may kumuha din picture sa akin na hindi ko kilala, and it is alright with me. Pero if meron ka ayaw mabisto, doon na ang problema. In fact pwede naman sabihin ni tulfo na ang attendant ang kinukunan nya. hindi si claudine ang kinukunan nya.. hehe.. Public place nga kasi.
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Ang gulo kasi nila... una, ayaw nila mavideo kaya hinihingi yung camera na "navideohan" daw sila.... tapos ngayon, sana daw ipikata sa CCTV ng airport yung video para malaman kung sino nagsimula ng gulo.... eh akala ko ba ayaw nila mavideohan... ano ba talaga!?!??! ;D
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That would depend on the situation. If you are just walking and nothing to hide, okay lang kunan ka na walang pahintulot. Nangyari na sa akin yan. Everytime attend ako alumni homecoming may babae na kinukunan ako( sa isip ko, kasi kasama batchmates). One time attend ako seminar, may kumuha din picture sa akin na hindi ko kilala, and it is alright with me. Pero if meron ka ayaw mabisto, doon na ang problema. In fact pwede naman sabihin ni tulfo na ang attendant ang kinukunan nya. hindi si claudine ang kinukunan nya.. hehe.. Public place nga kasi.
brother events yan. natural lang na may magdocument ng mga events. pero try mo yung magpicture/video ka ng random people sa mall. meron siguradong magagalit sa yo may ginagawa man silang mali o wala
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According to what I've heard from media friends, Claudine was name-dropping certain people, including the Gokongweis. She was threatening to call these people and have the two CP staff she was shouting at fired.
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According to what I've heard from media friends, Claudine was name-dropping certain people, including the Gokongweis. She was threatening to call these people and have the two CP staff she was shouting at fired.
I think this is what caught Mon Tulfo's attention. That's why he wanted it "documented". Documented meaning.... pictures or it never happened. ;)
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my take on this,
kung public figure ka, i think no choice ka?since public figure ka e.. thats why may mga resto na may "vip rooms"..
pag private figure ka naman, i think you may tell the resto youre eating na may nagvivideo, they should either ask that person their reason for videoing you..., i mean, security should be a part of their service..
ang alam ko kasi, you also have the right to refuse being videod.. kaya nga pag sa mga tv shows, they blur out the faces...
Tama ka dyan , bro. Public personalities, politicians, etc., within a public setting ata can be photographed or video recorded without liability. Unless they ask you to stop. It's your right not to stop pero that's up to you.
Kapag private individual ka na hindi naman public figure or personality, no one has the right to document your image extensively. Kahit nga ilang segundo lang, kung ramdam mo na ayaw mo masama sa recording you can ask to be deleted/blurred out.
Celebrity ka ba o Public Figure? Kung hindi, it's your right to stop someone from recording you. May magagawa ka kung private citizen ka at walang event na nangyayari sa iyo o paligid mo.
Like it or not, Tulfo's a journalist. He did what normal journalists do -- Record an ongoing event at a public space. Kahit hindi ka journalist, sino dito ang magsasabing hindi nila ilalabas ang celphone nila para i-record ang isang babae na minumura ang isa pang babae sa harap ng maraming tao at i-upload sa youtube mamaya?
Ako, HD pa ang pang-record ko dyan ;D sa malayong-malayong-malayo nga lang ;D ;D ;D hindi ako kung fu expert :P
brother events yan. natural lang na may magdocument ng mga events. pero try mo yung magpicture/video ka ng random people sa mall. meron siguradong magagalit sa yo may ginagawa man silang mali o wala
Tama uli ;) pero depende kung gaano ka-mali ang ginagawa. Kung nagnanakaw o gumagawa ng krimen, ano reklamo nila sa iyo? ;D
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brother events yan. natural lang na may magdocument ng mga events. pero try mo yung magpicture/video ka ng random people sa mall. meron siguradong magagalit sa yo may ginagawa man silang mali o wala
Pero alam naman natin na ang mall may video. Kaya if magalit, pwede sabihin ang mall may video naman din. This may be a good social experiment. Ilan ang magalit and ilan ang hindi magalit pag kinunan ng video. Pero back to topic. if hindi nagmura si claudine and kinunan sila ng video, baka okay lang sa kanila..Ayaw lang talaga nila ma document yung pagmura nila sa attendant.
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my take on this,
kung public figure ka, i think no choice ka?since public figure ka e.. thats why may mga resto na may "vip rooms"..
pag private figure ka naman, i think you may tell the resto youre eating na may nagvivideo, they should either ask that person their reason for videoing you..., i mean, security should be a part of their service..
ang alam ko kasi, you also have the right to refuse being videod.. kaya nga pag sa mga tv shows, they blur out the faces...
Ang alam ko yung blurred faces are minors. Meron yata sa batas na hindi pwede palabas as tv yung minors na sangkot sa krimen. Or if your safety will be compromised if you will be seen on tv.
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So whatever happened to the video and pics that Tulfo allegedly took? Low batt pala? ;D
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Tama uli ;) pero depende kung gaano ka-mali ang ginagawa. Kung nagnanakaw o gumagawa ng krimen, ano reklamo nila sa iyo? ;D
mas delikado yan dahil siguradong mas matindi ang galit ng tao na may ginagawang masama ;) and the best example of this is what happened to tulfo himself.
normal reaction kasi ng tao kaya sila nagagalit may mali man o wala is because hindi nila alam kung saan gagamitin yung picture o video. just use your imagination and mare realize niyo na marami nga pwede gawin sa picture o video. lalo na sa picture, pwede ko i post yan sa facebook at lagyan ng ibang istorya (madami na ang gumagawa nito. or gamitin ko yung video at iedit sa mga kalokohan at trip trip na magiging katatawanan yung subject
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Eh bakit ba nila gusto makuha yung cellphone ni Mon Tulfo? Kasi navideohan ni Mon Tulfo ang pagwawala ni Claudine? Ayaw nila makita ng tao ang pagwawala ni Claudine sa airport? Tapos nung binubugbog na nila si Mon Tulfo, nakalimutan din nila na pwede sila naman ang vinivideo?
Nahilo ako... teka. Ang gulo kasi nila. ;D
un nga ung irony dito eh...
ayaw ipakita ang mura at pangsasabon ni Claudine and yet in the end, etong pambubugbog nila ni raymart ang pinagppyestahan --- which placed them in a very bad light --- much incriminating and career breakers pa (kung meron pang natitira ;D)
the very thing that they wanted to prevent (being caught in video going ballistic) exactly became the very thing that happened!
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That would depend on the situation. If you are just walking and nothing to hide, okay lang kunan ka na walang pahintulot. Nangyari na sa akin yan. Everytime attend ako alumni homecoming may babae na kinukunan ako( sa isip ko, kasi kasama batchmates). One time attend ako seminar, may kumuha din picture sa akin na hindi ko kilala, and it is alright with me. Pero if meron ka ayaw mabisto, doon na ang problema. In fact pwede naman sabihin ni tulfo na ang attendant ang kinukunan nya. hindi si claudine ang kinukunan nya.. hehe.. Public place nga kasi.
nangyari na rin sakin yan, attend ako ng Kasal, may kumuha sa kin without me knowing it.
maya maya, may kumuha ulet, medyo napangiti na ako this time.
later, tapos na event, may iaalok na syong picture with Time magazine background pa ;D
anyway, come to think of it, kung nakuha or nadeliver ung mga bagahe nila in the first place, walang reklamo sa counter, piktyuran then suntukan. kasalanan lahat ng Cebu Pacific yan. yan yta ang trade-off sa mga discounted trips na yan, sakit na ulo most of the time or frequently.
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This is from the U.S. but probably a good starting point for determining what we can and can't do.
Know Your Rights: Photographers (https://www.aclu.org/free-speech/know-your-rights-photographers)
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So whatever happened to the video and pics that Tulfo allegedly took? Low batt pala? ;D
Pinakita ni Tulfo the pics he took.... walang kwenta nga kasi nakatalikod or nakatagilid naman si Claudine. And if indeed those were just pictures, hindi majujustify sa pic na nagmumumura nga si Claudine sa staff ng airline. Unless "video" talaga yung nakuhaan ni Tulfo... ayun for sure, wasak ang career ni Claudine, kung may natitira pa. ;D
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anyway, come to think of it, kung nakuha or nadeliver ung mga bagahe nila in the first place, walang reklamo sa counter, piktyuran then suntukan. kasalanan lahat ng Cebu Pacific yan. yan yta ang trade-off sa mga discounted trips na yan, sakit na ulo most of the time or frequently.
Things sometimes happen without our control. Siguro, dito papasok ang importance ng patience and understanding.
Kung sa akin nangyari yun, I will admit, maiinis ako. Malamang english pa ang pagtatalak ko sa staff, haha. Pero in a very professional manner, hindi ko naman sisigaw-sigawan sila or magnename drop ako. I will just demand for answers and explanation para hindi naman ako magmukhang tanga sa kakahintay ng luggage ko na wala pala sa flight ko. Kapag napacify na ako sa sagot nila and kung mag apologize sa inconvenience, eh di tapos ang usapan. Ano pang magagawa ko eh wala nga yung luggage ko kesa naman magsisisigaw pa ako dun just to grab attention.
Dapat nagprivate jet nalang sila claudine kung ayaw nya ng aberya.... ugh. ;D
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Things sometimes happen without our control. Siguro, dito papasok ang importance ng patience and understanding.
Dapat nagprivate jet nalang sila claudine kung ayaw nya ng aberya.... ugh. ;D
i agree.. you pay peanuts.. you get monkeys..
you get what you pay for.. budget airlines = high volume traffic = higher risk of booboo...
dito papasok ang premium airlines.. mahal ang binayad pero better service.
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Kampihan na! :D :D :D
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tanong ko lang mga sir sa mga may alam sa batas, ok lang ba talaga kumuha ng pics or vid ang isang tao kapag nasa public place ng walang pahintulot ng kinukuhanan? wala bang proteksiyon dito yung kinukuhanan?
Watch the video and be educated of your rights.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/metro-manila/05/08/12/mon-tulfo-broke-no-law-topacio
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si miriam ang swing vote ko.. dahil kay miriam, naging lopsided.
di na kelangan sumuntok si miriam... sa talak palang aatras na ang mga tulfos..
http://dailyorgy.neilrara.com/2012/04/20/sen-miriam-on-her-fashion-its-part-of-my-daily-crucifixion/
"Unlike most women, Sen. Santiago does not like carrying around a hand bag and she has a somewhat “violent” reason for this.
“Handbags, I don’t like them because they occupy my hands. My hands always have to be ready in case I need to slap somebody,” she said."
feeling ko si miriam ang chuck norris ng pinas.. :D
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Things sometimes happen without our control. Siguro, dito papasok ang importance ng patience and understanding.
Kung sa akin nangyari yun, I will admit, maiinis ako. Malamang english pa ang pagtatalak ko sa staff, haha. Pero in a very professional manner, hindi ko naman sisigaw-sigawan sila or magnename drop ako. I will just demand for answers and explanation para hindi naman ako magmukhang tanga sa kakahintay ng luggage ko na wala pala sa flight ko. Kapag napacify na ako sa sagot nila and kung mag apologize sa inconvenience, eh di tapos ang usapan. Ano pang magagawa ko eh wala nga yung luggage ko kesa naman magsisisigaw pa ako dun just to grab attention.
Dapat nagprivate jet nalang sila claudine kung ayaw nya ng aberya.... ugh. ;D
when our luggage was delayed (put on another flight), it resulted to wasting that first day in Boracay (my kid had to "swim" in the bathtub, instead of the beautiful beach or pool of the resort). but two things kept me cool:
1) mabait naman yung ground crew ... "pasensiya na po", etc. etc., tapos ang usapan. pero i think mabait yun kasi taga Aklan siya. e Manilan kaya? kung sungitan ako nun, baka magiskandalo din ako dun.
2) because mabait siya, i was calm enough to THINK and evaluate na kahit sakalin ko sa airport yung ground crew, hindi mapapasakin ang baggage ko ng mas maaga.
in conclusion, i'm sure MALI SILANG LAHAT. mag royal rumble na lang sila. ground crew + CB + santiago + pink man + tulfo 1 to 4.
;D
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Things sometimes happen without our control. Siguro, dito papasok ang importance ng patience and understanding.
Kung sa akin nangyari yun, I will admit, maiinis ako. Malamang english pa ang pagtatalak ko sa staff, haha. Pero in a very professional manner, hindi ko naman sisigaw-sigawan sila or magnename drop ako. I will just demand for answers and explanation para hindi naman ako magmukhang tanga sa kakahintay ng luggage ko na wala pala sa flight ko. Kapag napacify na ako sa sagot nila and kung mag apologize sa inconvenience, eh di tapos ang usapan. Ano pang magagawa ko eh wala nga yung luggage ko kesa naman magsisisigaw pa ako dun just to grab attention.
Dapat nagprivate jet nalang sila claudine kung ayaw nya ng aberya.... ugh. ;D
baka yung ground staff rin kasi ng cebu pac ay hindi trained at equipped para sumagot sa mga tanong ng customers. usually kasi dyan lalo umiinit ulo ng customers pag walang alam yung mga tao. so hula ko baka nagkamali ng sagot yung staff. or maybe not. di ko rin alam.
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Mike did you happen to check in near the cut off time? I suspect that delayed baggage are those who arrive nearing the cut off. FIFO kasi sila.
when our luggage was delayed (put on another flight), it resulted to wasting that first day in Boracay (my kid had to "swim" in the bathtub, instead of the beautiful beach or pool of the resort). but two things kept me cool:
1) mabait naman yung ground crew ... "pasensiya na po", etc. etc., tapos ang usapan. pero i think mabait yun kasi taga Aklan siya. e Manilan kaya? kung sungitan ako nun, baka magiskandalo din ako dun.
2) because mabait siya, i was calm enough to THINK and evaluate na kahit sakalin ko sa airport yung ground crew, hindi mapapasakin ang baggage ko ng mas maaga.
in conclusion, i'm sure MALI SILANG LAHAT. mag royal rumble na lang sila. ground crew + CB + santiago + pink man + tulfo 1 to 4.
;D
As someone who does not watch local TV or cinema it appears to me that those posting are the fans of each public figure.
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Ground crew ang tatarayan e ano naman ang magagawa nila maliban sa magpaliwanag at humingi ng dispensa? Walang pinag-iba sa isang messenger na inutusan lang para sumalo ng talsik ng laway mula sa nagrereklamong tumanggap ng bagahe o sulat. Ganun din sa teller ng tollgate na pagbuntungan ng galit ng motorista dahil sa palpak na kalsada. >:(
Think before Talak.
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Mike did you happen to check in near the cut off time? I suspect that delayed baggage are those who arrive nearing the cut off. FIFO kasi sila.
hindi sir. i'm always way early. all the passenger's baggage of all the flights that day were that way. people on the small planes, all baggages to the big plane going to Aklan. (they did not inform anybody about this, before, during or after)
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hindi sir. i'm always way early. all the passenger's baggage of all the flights that day were that way. people on the small planes, all baggages to the big plane going to Aklan. (they did not inform anybody about this, before, during or after)
Ganun pala!
So Mike, are you Team Santiago or Team Tulfo?
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not sure if napost na ito
Erwin Tulfo apologizes for threatening remarks on Raymart Santiago; Mon Tulfo says his brothers are at fault (http://pep.ph/news/34022/erwin-tulfo-apologizes-for-threatening-remarks-on-raymart-santiago-mon-tulfo-says-his-brothers-are-at-fault)
baka sinabon ni MVP ::)
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not sure if napost na ito
Erwin Tulfo apologizes for threatening remarks on Raymart Santiago; Mon Tulfo says his brothers are at fault (http://pep.ph/news/34022/erwin-tulfo-apologizes-for-threatening-remarks-on-raymart-santiago-mon-tulfo-says-his-brothers-are-at-fault)
baka sinabon ni MVP ::)
For people who single out suspects, they dont know how to avoid legal entanglements.
Don't scare them bodily. Drain them financially. :)
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Watch the video and be educated of your rights.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/video/nation/metro-manila/05/08/12/mon-tulfo-broke-no-law-topacio
I totally disagree with this. Right to Privacy doesn't mean that you have to be a private individual and that you have to be in your house or any place private. Even if you're in a public place, your right to privacy is still there and no one has the right to bug you much less take your photo without your consent. Tulfo's lawyer should dig deeper on the meaning of this right. Sabi nga ni Claudine, is it worth all this trouble just for a scoop? On this point alone, I kinda agree with her.
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reaction ni hitler sa kaguluhang ito:
http://youtu.be/wZ6tnsO7qpM (http://youtu.be/wZ6tnsO7qpM)
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Hindi po bawal kumuha ng picture nor videos. Pwede yan kahit walang paa-paalam. Kaya nga tayo me camera phone eh. Lalo na pag me nakikita tayong eksena, kahit sino sa atin ang tendency ay kunan ng video or photo.
Besides, wala naman nakukulong sa pagkuha ng video dito sa pinas.
Tama ba ako Hayden Kho?! ;D
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reaction ni hitler sa kaguluhang ito:
http://youtu.be/wZ6tnsO7qpM (http://youtu.be/wZ6tnsO7qpM)
Grabe, tawa kami ng tawa dito sa office... panalo... hahaha
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Ganun pala!
So Mike, are you Team Santiago or Team Tulfo?
this is like LOTR, when the orcs fought the uruk hai. you are happy they are fighting, but you are not on either team ;D
pero i like the uruk hai kasi cool sila, so i was happy to see the orcs (MT) get beat up.
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Grabe, tawa kami ng tawa dito sa office... panalo... hahaha
hahaha... isumbong niyo sa lolo niyong panot daw hehehe...
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hay naku, ba't ang gulo na nito. mabuti pa si hayden, okay lang sa kanya mag video ;D
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SMILE!!!! ;D Yihheeeeeee!!!
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hay naku, ba't ang gulo na nito. mabuti pa si hayden, okay lang sa kanya mag video ;D
Yes Yes buti pa to ;D
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Scum versus scum, really.
Now let's all take a backseat and enjoy the drama and blodshed, shall we? ;D
+ 1 I always believe that Meron ka laging katapat. I'm gonna enjoy this show! Please pass the popcorn! ;D
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Hindi po bawal kumuha ng picture nor videos. Pwede yan kahit walang paa-paalam. Kaya nga tayo me camera phone eh. Lalo na pag me nakikita tayong eksena, kahit sino sa atin ang tendency ay kunan ng video or photo.
Besides, wala naman nakukulong sa pagkuha ng video dito sa pinas.
Tama ba ako Hayden Kho?! ;D
meron namang nabubugbog, kaya ako wag na lang ;D
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SMILE!!!! ;D Yihheeeeeee!!!
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Ayos! On character pa rin! Ayos kabayan Alex!
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Please pass the popcorn! ;D
(http://i.imgur.com/77ShB.jpg?1)
;D
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hottest topic on pdvd kahapon pa a. ;D
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ayan !! nagalit na ng todo si manong hitzler !! LOL !!
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eto picture ko with claw nung 2009 :D
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eto picture ko with claw nung 2009 :D
(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/8522_156886424246_519739246_2702559_4797583_n.jpg)
laki brader sarap hehehe
haba na pala ng thread ko hihihi
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there was an issue before TMZ vs john mayer
i believe waa din ata nagawa ng privacy na inask ni john
not sure of the complete story
sa mga videos
alam nyo naman TMZ sa america
since wala talagang batas ata e kuha lang ng kuha ng video
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Ang pinakakinaiinisan ko dito is yun walang functioning CCTV sa airport natin. It could have cleared up a lot of things already. What if it's more than just domestic violence that happened di ba? somebody better make our 750 terminal fees worth it!
Nagbago din bigla ihip ng hangin nun T3 brothers nun may lumabas na witness :) now back to the Corona impeachment trial.. haha!
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I totally disagree with this. Right to Privacy doesn't mean that you have to be a private individual and that you have to be in your house or any place private. Even if you're in a public place, your right to privacy is still there and no one has the right to bug you much less take your photo without your consent. Tulfo's lawyer should dig deeper on the meaning of this right. Sabi nga ni Claudine, is it worth all this trouble just for a scoop? On this point alone, I kinda agree with her.
You sir, are no lawyer. ;D You are free to disagree but it does not make it less legal. At the end all that matters is the law.
As a private citizen you have the right to privacy. As public figures Raymart & Claudine cannot pick and choose what they want to be made public especially in a public place such as an airport.
The incident at the NAIA 3 is of public interest and as a member of the press Tulfo practiced his constitutionally mandated rights found in our 1987 Constitution. If he cannot practice such rights then we all should be worried. Raymart even attempted to get Tulfo's phone. Would you allow a stranger to take your private property away from you?
Claudine is just saying that because she was caught being herself.
The moral of the story is pipol is to behave properly in public. Just because you are a has been does not give you the right to verbally abuse minimum wage employees and if you act like a Senorita do not fly the budget fares. Spend more with the flag carrier.
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^ +1
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Isn't this case similar to paparazzi's? Parang there is no law preventing paparazzi's from taking videos/photos as long as these are done in a public place.
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Isn't this case similar to paparazzi's? Parang there is no law preventing paparazzi's from taking videos/photos as long as these are done in a public place.
There is no law preventing consumers from buying into paparazzi-generated content. Your point?
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If you are witnessing the commission of a crime or a wrong doing, the more that you are encouraged to take pictures or video of the ongoing incident. This way you are serving your country. The right of privacy may not apply or it would be subordinated by the higher need to report the criminal act of people involve. ;)
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If you are witnessing the commission of a crime or a wrong doing, the more that you are encouraged to take pictures or video of the ongoing incident. This way you are serving your country. The right of privacy may not apply or it would be subordinated by the higher need to report the criminal act of people involve. ;)
Tama! A true patriot makes an effort to help solve crimes whether the perp is hoi polloi or a Dona-wannabe
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The moral of the story is pipol is to behave properly in public. Just because you are a has been does not give you the right to verbally abuse minimum wage employees and if you act like a Senorita do not fly the budget fares. Spend more with the flag carrier.
Ayan. I totally agree with you. Very sensible. We should all behave properly in public or private. Kasi baka makita tayo ni Tulfo. :)
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Claudine is just saying that because she was caught being herself.
The moral of the story is pipol is to behave properly in public. Just because you are a has been does not give you the right to verbally abuse minimum wage employees and if you act like a Senorita do not fly the budget fares. Spend more with the flag carrier.
Sabi nga, "A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person."
Ok lang magalit, emotions yun eh... pero yung yurak yurakan mo naman ang isang tao sa harap pa ng ibang tao, ay teka.... easy ka lang. >:(
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There is no law preventing consumers from buying into paparazzi-generated content. Your point?
I just made it.
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Sabi nga, "A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person."
Ok lang magalit, emotions yun eh... pero yung yurak yurakan mo naman ang isang tao sa harap pa ng ibang tao, ay teka.... easy ka lang. >:(
Agree. Sabi din nga we are judged by how we treat the least among us.
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Sometimes we have to complain vehemently just to raise a point or else those in charge may/can just do whatever they want since no one's complaining about their inconsistensies/errors.
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Sabi nga, "A person who is nice to you, but rude to the waiter, is not a nice person."
Ok lang magalit, emotions yun eh... pero yung yurak yurakan mo naman ang isang tao sa harap pa ng ibang tao, ay teka.... easy ka lang. >:(
It's how you react to your emotions that counts. ;)
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Sometimes we have to complain vehemently just to raise a point or else those in charge may/can just do whatever they want since no one's complaining about their inconsistensies/errors.
+1
airline staff should have informed passenger(s) regarding off loading of baggage, BEFORE the flight. it is quite different when the passengers themselves found out that their baggage were not carried/flown on the same flight.
it is NOT a valid reason that it was due to Cebu Pacific being a budget carrier. we've flown to many destinations here and abroad through budget carriers but were treated properly.
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SMILE!!!! ;D Yihheeeeeee!!!
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Sir nagkakalat sa Facebook yan picture nyo. gone viral na FYI :-\
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nyahahaha... ;D
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Sometimes we have to complain vehemently just to raise a point or else those in charge may/can just do whatever they want since no one's complaining about their inconsistensies/errors.
Pwede naman siguro siya magrequest ng mahinahon na makausap yung supervisor, manager, etc. para ma-escalate yung issue. Sigurado pa siyang makakarating sa taas yung complaint, at hindi papanget ang image niya dun sa kausap nya. Malay niya fan pa pala nya yun before it happened.
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I've heard lots of rumors that Claudine has an attitude, and it showed in NAIA.
Is it right to yell at the Airline staff, and demand to call the company owner? How can she call the company owner instantly? What a douchebag.
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Patungkol sa mga naiiwang bagahe, ok siguro kung before boarding (or kung late din nila (crew) malalaman e di sa loob ng eroplano) i-announce ang sitwasyon then mamigay ng form/s to fill up para pagbaba mo ng eroplano submit mo na lang at di ka magmukhang tangang nakaabang sa wala. Less hassle at walang bugbugan. :D
Ang tanong: matutukoy ba nila kung kaninong bagahe ang hindi naisama?
Dito papasok ang kahalagahan ng sticker # sa bagahe. Pwede kasing ang mga late lang ang hindi maisama at responsibilidad ng in-charge sa bagahe kung sa anong sticker # nagsimula ang hindi naisama.
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From my experience in a service related industry, there are really some people who will complain, mouth-off, curse and some have even insulted me completely unrelated to the issue at hand. They don't have to be a celebrity to do this, even "normal" everyday people sometimes do this.
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From my experience in a service related industry, there are really some people who will complain, mouth-off, curse and some have even insulted me completely unrelated to the issue at hand. They don't have to be a celebrity to do this, even "normal" everyday people sometimes do this.
True. The world is full of "normal" everyday a$$hoL3s.
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From my experience in a service related industry, there are really some people who will complain, mouth-off, curse and some have even insulted me completely unrelated to the issue at hand. They don't have to be a celebrity to do this, even "normal" everyday people sometimes do this.
That's true bro.. But the fact that these people are VIPs/Celebrities, who are always under the microscope from the public eye, they should be role models.
The experience (off-baggage) is very inconvenient, I'm sure.. but a person is always judged by how he/she reacts to things that come in his/her way - good or bad. To an extent, we don't have control over what happens to us, but the way we react & act on these are the only things we have control of.
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That's true bro.. But the fact that these people are VIPs/Celebrities, who are always under the microscope from the public eye, they should be role models.
The experience (off-baggage) is very inconvenient, I'm sure.. but a person is always judged by how he/she reacts to things that come in his/her way - good or bad. To an extent, we don't have control over what happens to us, but the way we react & act on these are the only things we have control of.
So... is it fair to say na nag asal "palengkera" si Claudine sa airport?
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The moral of the story is pipol is to behave properly in public. Just because you are a has been does not give you the right to verbally abuse minimum wage employees and if you act like a Senorita do not fly the budget fares. Spend more with the flag carrier.
+100
or better yet, buy your own private jet. ;)
So... is it fair to say na nag asal "palengkera" si Claudine sa airport?
maybe hindi lang yan ang first time that she publicly berated someone.
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Claudine should not cry foul for an alleged violation of her privacy when she herself is violating others on the guise that she is the customer. The business principle that "Customers is always right." is not one without limitation and it does not confer the right to abuse others.
Raymart and Claudine are filing charges of child abuse against Tulfo but they doesnt seem to understand that what Claudine did to the poor attendant and their active participation in the cabal have elements that may put them also into the same question of child abuse.
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Feeling 'almighty', dapat separate nya nalang sarili nya sa 'crowd' if she feels that way. Bakit nga ba 'di siya naka-Private Jet? :) Oh, I forgot.. The lady has a gambling problem. :D
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Cebu Pacific employees spill beans on Claudine
http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/news/metro/29531-cebu-pacific-employees-spill-beans-on-claudine
"... “Ms. Santiago was yelling and blaming us about the incident. She demanded for the earliest possible time to claim their bags and ask for compensation specifically roundtrip ticket,” one of the statements said."
Ahhh... roundtrip tickets. So... uh... uhm... ::)
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Baka sa susunod mag ro-ro na lang sila... ::) ;D
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Ahhh... roundtrip tickets. So... uh... uhm... ::)
sabi nga ni sir LoneWolf, the lady has a gambling problem. ;D
kaya ginagawa ang lahat para makatipid para meron pang sugal. :D
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sabi nga ni sir LoneWolf, the lady has a gambling problem. ;D
kaya ginagawa ang lahat para makatipid para meron pang sugal. :D
Mag abang nalang sila ulit ng Piso Sale... hihi... ;D
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masibak kaya ang tatlong tulfo sa kapatid network? or suspended lang?
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masibak kaya ang tatlong tulfo sa kapatid network? or suspended lang?
Suspended lang siguro ang Tulfo Brothers, or baka bigyan lang ng "warning"..... pero for sure may mga career pa rin yan since public service naman ang theme ng shows nila.
May career pa kaya si Claudine after ng incident na to?
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Suspended lang siguro ang Tulfo Brothers, or baka bigyan lang ng "warning"..... pero for sure may mga career pa rin yan since public service naman ang theme ng shows nila.
May career pa kaya si Claudine after ng incident na to?
bakit meron ba before the incident? ;D
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bakit meron ba before the incident? ;D
Sa Resorts World diba.... hehehehe... oops!
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Ang galing din ng manager/lawyers nitong mga personalities na 'to. Pansinin nyo nagpa presscon pa sina Santiago putting a soft scared face tapos si Claudine di pinagsalita kasi baka kung ano pang masabing mali. Iika ika pang maglakad, akala mo nabalian eh pagkalaki laki naman ng pata. Si Tulfo naman iba yung sinabing statement nung hapon na nangyari na hindi daw nya sinipa. Damage control na nga.
To me Claudine is just riding the bandwagon of taking the heat to CebuPac. Well CebuPac is already taking a bad rep so they better shape up. Having a customer helpdesk at airports won't solve the problem of more customer blunders. The problem is their service plus the long-term issue on airport congestion.
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Let's be honest. Kung sa inyo nangyari yun, naiwan or wala yung luggage nyo, would you "create a scene" sa helpdesk ng Airline? Yung totoo ha....
Kasi may mga ibang tao talaga na, oh well, feeling nila ibang level sila kaya they can just treat other people like sh*t. It's not about being "parang walang pinagaralan". Diba nga, you can pay for school but you can't buy class. I think nasa ego na yun ng tao.... well, Baretto sya eh.. feeling untouchable like her sister La Greta.
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It's okay to vent frustration but not on the personnel unless they were the ones who made the booboo right in front of your face. Pero yung alipustahin mo yung pagkatao eh below the belt na yun. Ang tirahin nyo yung maling nagawa hindi yung tao mismo. Well kanya kanya talagang pananaw yan kasi iba't iba naman tayo pero dapat nasa lugar.
We are guilty at times because we want to raise the concern and to take actions right away. Okay lang na magreklamo pero dapat may ginagawang solusyon kasi kung paulit ulit na lang ang problema eh dun talaga magiinit ang ulo ng customers. Kasi yung iba kahit saan pang serbisyo yan pag hindi mo pinagtaasan ng boses eh hindi ka papansinin. Pilit kang iiwasan. Case in point most government offices. Pero karamihan na ang nagsabi "you get what you pay for" pero sana naman ayusin din ang serbisyo kahit pa mura ang singil.
May kaso din ang CebuPac dun sa isang disabled passenger, pinagapang ba naman yung babaeng putol ang paa sa hagdan! Kasi may bayad daw yung service ng automated lift for disabled persons. Galeng di ba. Well OT na so sa ibang thread na lang pagusapan.
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May kaso din ang CebuPac dun sa isang disabled passenger, pinagapang ba naman yung babaeng putol ang paa sa hagdan! Kasi may bayad daw yung service ng automated lift for disabled persons. Galeng di ba. Well OT na so sa ibang thread na lang pagusapan.
Ay teka... ibang usapan na to... baka ako na mismo ang magmala Claudine Barretto dun... wag naman ganyan klaseng service... nakakabastos sa pagkatao ng mga PWD! >:( Naku, Off Topic nga... balik sa bugbugan sa NAIA! ;D
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you also have to ask the question why would it take php 11,000 just to operate an automated lift for a disabled? dapat sa binabayad na service sa airport sagot na nila yun.
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Because "our" airport was made a cash cow for the government. It's a cesspool for the corrupt government to have us pay for the standards they should be giving the passengers. Lahat pagkakakitaan.
I'm sure they'll blame it on the old adminstration. ;D
And I think it was made that way to make the PAL terminal standout in Lucio Tan's time. Sa kabila na natin siguro i discuss 'to.
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^ Blessing in disguise nga yung Thrilla in NAIA... nalaman tuloy natin na walang CCTV sa area na yun. Hello, Airport Terminal Fee, where do you go? ::)
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Precisely bro: You get what you pay for :) Good post.
Grabe, I didn't know that incident. Sobra naman 'yung incident na 'yun. CebuPac sucks so bad.
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hindi naman yung airline ang naniningil sa paggamit ng automated lift kundi yung singaporean airport. ininform din naman bago pa man yung passenger about the fees kaso hindi nila pinansin. at tinutulungan yung passenger kaso ayaw niyang magpatulong. syempre para mamagnify yung isyu.
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Ah nga pala, Sa SG budget terminal nangyari yun my bad. I think the FAs even offered their help kasi naawa nga sa pasahero but still may lapses pa rin.
Ang lesson: Mahilig kasi kayo sa Piso fares eh kaya Piso din ang halaga ng serbisyo na ibibigay. Parang Cornetto ad, hanggang saan aabot ang 20 pesos nyo. ;D
Mabalik tayo sa usapan. Fault ba ng Cebupac na i-offload yung bagahe ng pasahero? Di ba common sense na dapat kasabay dapat ng pasahero yung bagahe nya sa isang byahe kahit saan pa yan? Kahit pa may bayad yan o allowed ang pasahero ng ilang kilos as handcarry di ba dapat kasabay yan sa isang eroplano? Mali yata na i-offload mo yung bagahe ng pasahero without them knowing before boarding the plane kasi nga away yun. Since naging budget airline nga baka may ibang bagahe like produce/food/important freight na bayad kaya inuna sa byahe? Parang mali yata na magkukulang ang baggage space sa pasahero kahit pa mag excess yan.
Ang katwiran yata ng CebuPac medyo malakas ang hangin kaya kailangang bawasan ang load. Pero parang may mali pa rin. Pero makes sense na magbawas kasi turboprop planes ang gamit nila sa Caticlan, limited ang space dun unlike Airbus A320s sa Kalibo.
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Let's be honest. Kung sa inyo nangyari yun, naiwan or wala yung luggage nyo, would you "create a scene" sa helpdesk ng Airline? Yung totoo ha....
although hindi tungkol sa bagahe pero related naman. sa kalibo airport pabalik na kami ng manila. cebu pac flight was delayed for a least 3hrs. reason for delay is technical issue daw. maaraw na maaraw nun so i'm pretty sure hindi weather ang issue. flight namin is 9AM and we arrived about 8AM. since wife ko yung bumili ng tickets siya ang lage nakikipagusap. for those familiar with kalibo airport medyo maliit lang siya so nakabalandra kami lahat dun sa sahig. mga 20+ kami including a baby at 2 seniors. main problem is wala man lang nagaasist from cebu pac. just imagine kung gaano na karami yung tao dun. so si wifey lumapit na dun sa front desk at nagask ng update, medyo pasigaw na pero hindi naman nagmumura. ang hindi nagustuhan ni misis yung pagsalita nila ng bisaya kapag nakatalikod sa amin. eh yung ate ni misis nakakaintindi :-) nagkainitan na and there were guards na lumapit. yung ibang kasabay namin sa flight nakianggal na rin so nacorner yung dalawang taga cebu pac. my wife ask for their manager at pinapunta kami sa office katabi ng airport. we filed a formal complaint, in the end nakakuha kami ng round trip ticket local for 1 nga lang :-)
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^ Exactly... diba? Ok lang naman magpakita ng frustration pero not to the point na nagmumura ka na and creating a scene. Syempre sinubukan na rin ang pasensya mo so medyo may moments na pasigaw na ang salita mo. Tama. You call the manager or the person in charge in that department. Kasi kahit nga sakal sakalin mo yung tao sa front desk, walang magagawa yun. At least the manager or "supervisor" during that shift, icocompensate nalang kayo with what they can, like a roundtrip ticket or anything.
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hindi naman yung airline ang naniningil sa paggamit ng automated lift kundi yung singaporean airport. ininform din naman bago pa man yung passenger about the fees kaso hindi nila pinansin. at tinutulungan yung passenger kaso ayaw niyang magpatulong. syempre para mamagnify yung isyu.
Resposibilidad ng airline yan, sila dapat mag bayad at hindi ang pasahero. Sa amerika mangyari yan the airline will be penalized for $27,500 by the US DOT.
RT ticket is the least CP can give especially that they do not offer out of pocket expenses. Wala rin kinalaman yung piso fare, dapat equal treatment sa pasahero.
As for the newspaper link about spillage, CB will be put in a very bad light in that article, the communication or negotation between a passenger and the airline must be private and not to be "spilled" in national newspaper.
May karapatan magwala ang pasahero especially if they paid a premuim, remember that not all passengers paid piso, lalo na kung frequent flyer sila. You also have to face the fact that these people are public figures and not a so so celebrities. Sa ibang airline, ina-isolate yang ganyang personalities, from politicians, celebrities etc. Pwede naman dalin sa office and dun gawin ang report, to protect na din the individual and the airline kasi paglabas ng airport bulong bulungan yan. At kapag ganyan ang passenger mo you normally give what they want kasi pag yan nag ingay sabit pa ang airline nyo. Ang problema, CP seems to have their own rule book and the people running it doesnt know anything about putting customer first before profit.
As for the space limitation issue, i think its more of a weight rather than space issue. Mas mabigat mas malakas sa gasolina kaya pinapantay sa ibang eroplano, advantage sa kanila but not on the customers. Wala naman sigurong may dalang balikbayan boxes dyan para mapuno ang cargo bin nila, boracay lang yan.
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As for the space limitation issue, i think its more of a weight rather than space issue. Mas mabigat mas malakas sa gasolina kaya pinapantay sa ibang eroplano, advantage sa kanila but not on the customers. Wala naman sigurong may dalang balikbayan boxes dyan para mapuno ang cargo bin nila, boracay lang yan.
it is weight.. and they are strict in caticlan with weight kasi the runway is short.. dun lang ako sa caticlan nakaranas na pati weight ko tinatanong (kakahiya ;D) kasama ng pag check sa weight ng hand carry ko..
worse case scenario, di bale na ang bagahe ko ma off load, wag lang ako... ;D
or better yet, ok lang extend nila ako for a day.. basta sagot nila hotel ko...
wag lang nila ako ipalipat sa kalibo, 2 hrs byahe yun.. tagtag na ako tapos pagod pa... but sadly ganito nga ginagawa nila.
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it is weight.. and they are strict in caticlan with weight kasi the runway is short.. dun lang ako sa caticlan nakaranas na pati weight ko tinatanong (kakahiya ;D) kasama ng pag check sa weight ng hand carry ko..
therefore, kung hindi overweight si claudine, eh di ndi sana naoffload ung bagahe nila! wala na sanang gulo! naku, this is on claudine talaga! hahaha! :D ;D :D
dapat sinagot sya nung cebupac, "ma'am, dapat kau ang inoffload para di na naiwan ang bagahe!" :D
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^ okay thanks for the clarification. Alam ko sa charter flights lang (20-40 seater) tinatanong pati ang timbang ng pasahero. Buti nga tinatanong lang, yung dating Pacific Air titimbangin ka talaga. :)
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^ okay thanks for the clarification. Alam ko sa charter flights lang (20-40 seater) tinatanong pati ang timbang ng pasahero. Buti nga tinatanong lang, yung dating Pacific Air titimbangin ka talaga. :)
i think tinimbang rin kasi nagduda ata sa sinabi kong weight... ;D
buti nalang nagsabi ako ng totoo... ;D
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Airline agents say Claudine Barretto cussed them
http://entertainment.inquirer.net/39581/airline-agents-say-claudine-barretto-cussed-them
Luggage off-loaded
When interviewed, Iyog recalled that on Sunday, Barretto’s group took Cebu Pacific Flight No. 5J 896, which left Caticlan at 10:20 a.m. The flight arrived at NAIA Terminal 3 at 11:35 a.m.
“Cebu Pacific, however, had to off-load some luggage from that flight due to Caticlan airport’s weight limit requirements, which the airline strictly implements for safety reasons,” she said.
Iyog said that due to the short runway and the prevailing wind conditions at Caticlan, the plane could only carry a certain amount of weight, prompting the ground staff to off-load some bags.
“A total of 11 bags were off-loaded from that flight. Nine of them belonged to Barretto’s group (which also included her husband, actor Raymart Santiago),” the Cebu Pacific executive said.
“But the same bags were promptly loaded on another Manila-bound flight—Cebu Pacific Flight No. 5J 340, which left Kalibo airport at 12:40 p.m. on the same day. That flight arrived at 1:40 p.m. All off-loaded bags were delivered to their owners’ homes a few hours later,” she said.
Offer of compensation
Iyog said Bocboc and Ilagan “did apologize to (Barretto and party) for what happened and promptly attended to their concerns at the baggage claim area of NAIA Terminal 3.”
“When our arrival agents learned that their bags had been off-loaded in Caticlan, they offered them what we call ‘first need’ compensation, which is P1,000 for every bag left behind. That’s (standard operating procedure). We also offered to refund their excess baggage worth P4,300,” she said.
Iyog pointed out that the airline had done what it was supposed to do. “However, (Santiago and Barretto) have yet to respond to our compensation offers,” she said.
“But we are in constant communication with the Santiagos,” she added.
In an ABS-CBN TV interview, Santiago blamed Cebu Pacific’s off-loading of his group’s bags as the cause of their troubles.
“Actually, the root cause of the incident was our missing bags,” he said as he also denied Tulfo’s allegation that he had tried to grab his phone.
Strike 3 for Barretto
NAIA insiders, including two reporters covering the airport beat, referred to Sunday’s incident as “Strike 3” for Barretto.
They claimed, among other things, that the actress “had been involved in three similar incidents during the past two or three years.”
“One time, she made a scene after she was refused boarding on a domestic flight because she came late. After she made some calls, she was allowed to board the plane. She was involved in a similar incident, also on a domestic flight,” said a NAIA source.
Another source said the actress had the “nasty habit of throwing her weight around when she doesn’t get what she wants, like getting an upgrade on international flights.”
Aaaah... strike 3 na pala eh... HABITUAL. Well, that says a lot. tsk tsk tsk...
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^ okay naman pala compensation nila eh kung ako yun kinuha ko na ;D
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^ okay thanks for the clarification. Alam ko sa charter flights lang (20-40 seater) tinatanong pati ang timbang ng pasahero. Buti nga tinatanong lang, yung dating Pacific Air titimbangin ka talaga. :)
timbang talaga sa terminal 3. nakakahiya nga kasi i clocked in 200+lbs ;D
(my backpack with camera gear, laptop and water included)
feeling ko ang laki laki nung results, kita ng lahat
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Let's be honest. Kung sa inyo nangyari yun, naiwan or wala yung luggage nyo, would you "create a scene" sa helpdesk ng Airline? Yung totoo ha....
Kasi may mga ibang tao talaga na, oh well, feeling nila ibang level sila kaya they can just treat other people like sh*t. It's not about being "parang walang pinagaralan". Diba nga, you can pay for school but you can't buy class. I think nasa ego na yun ng tao.... well, Baretto sya eh.. feeling untouchable like her sister La Greta.
Nangyari na sa akin. i know the feeling. gusto mo mag mura. pero inisip ko na wala naman din mangyari kasi walang added value kung magmura ka. need big effort to control it. yun nalang naisip ko to check my emotions. walang value added ang mag mura. hindi maka solve sa problem. siguro if nasa labas and and dinadala na ng crew yung bagahe mo, yun pwede mag mura para mapabilis ang dating ng bagahe mo..
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Resposibilidad ng airline yan, sila dapat mag bayad at hindi ang pasahero. Sa amerika mangyari yan the airline will be penalized for $27,500 by the US DOT.
RT ticket is the least CP can give especially that they do not offer out of pocket expenses. Wala rin kinalaman yung piso fare, dapat equal treatment sa pasahero.
As for the newspaper link about spillage, CB will be put in a very bad light in that article, the communication or negotation between a passenger and the airline must be private and not to be "spilled" in national newspaper.
May karapatan magwala ang pasahero especially if they paid a premuim, remember that not all passengers paid piso, lalo na kung frequent flyer sila. You also have to face the fact that these people are public figures and not a so so celebrities. Sa ibang airline, ina-isolate yang ganyang personalities, from politicians, celebrities etc. Pwede naman dalin sa office and dun gawin ang report, to protect na din the individual and the airline kasi paglabas ng airport bulong bulungan yan. At kapag ganyan ang passenger mo you normally give what they want kasi pag yan nag ingay sabit pa ang airline nyo. Ang problema, CP seems to have their own rule book and the people running it doesn't know anything about putting customer first before profit.
As for the space limitation issue, i think its more of a weight rather than space issue. Mas mabigat mas malakas sa gasolina kaya pinapantay sa ibang eroplano, advantage sa kanila but not on the customers. Wala naman sigurong may dalang balikbayan boxes dyan para mapuno ang cargo bin nila, boracay lang yan.
very well said, brother Donnel.
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anu ulit yung kasong grave threat yung ginawa ng tulfo brothers? di ba madalas naman gawin ni ben tulfo yon sa tv? yung mumurahin yung general (for example) tapos sasabihin niya, "wag lang tayo mag-krus ng daan." Or, "uupakan kita kung mabalitaan kong binugbog mo ulit asawa mo." what's the difference between that and the threat to santiago?
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Buti nalang may nakapag-isip na magvideo nung sapakan nila....
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You sir, are no lawyer. ;D You are free to disagree but it does not make it less legal. At the end all that matters is the law.
As a private citizen you have the right to privacy. As public figures Raymart & Claudine cannot pick and choose what they want to be made public especially in a public place such as an airport.
The incident at the NAIA 3 is of public interest and as a member of the press Tulfo practiced his constitutionally mandated rights found in our 1987 Constitution. If he cannot practice such rights then we all should be worried. Raymart even attempted to get Tulfo's phone. Would you allow a stranger to take your private property away from you?
Claudine is just saying that because she was caught being herself.
The moral of the story is pipol is to behave properly in public. Just because you are a has been does not give you the right to verbally abuse minimum wage employees and if you act like a Senorita do not fly the budget fares. Spend more with the flag carrier.
You sir, are no lawyer.
Well are you? ;D If you only knew boy. ;D
You are free to disagree but it does not make it less legal. At the end all that matters is the law.
Yes it's a free country. But what is LAW to you? I suggest you read the entire Bill of Rights and try to correlate each and every passage thereof and you will find that the Right to Privacy is the foundation of most if not all of the human rights and duties that are granted to individual citizens under a Constitutional Democracy. It is the Mother of all democratic rights. In democratic societies, the most basic human right is to be secure in our persons, homes and possessions; This includes all the physical and mental aspects of private personhood and citizenship in the private sector. In fact, the Right to Privacy is also the basis of Freedom of Speech and Expression, because the right to hold a a private opinion and to express it freely is a human right of every private citizen.
As a private citizen you have the right to privacy. As public figures Raymart & Claudine cannot pick and choose what they want to be made public especially in a public place such as an airport.
The Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution does not qualify. So you say that private individuals enjoy the right to privacy but celebrities DO NOT even in they are just standing in a public place minding their own business? Double standards?
The incident at the NAIA 3 is of public interest
Whoa! Lemme break it down for you. Public interest is a common concern among citizens in the management and affairs of local, state, and national government. Was the act of berating a ground attendant before it resulted in the incident that we all know of, of public and national interest to you? Rather, was the entire incident of public and national interest to you?
and as a member of the press Tulfo practiced his constitutionally mandated rights found in our 1987 Constitution. If he cannot practice such rights then we all should be worried.
Constitutionally mandated right to what? Intrusion? The freedom of the press is NOT an absolute right. Peeping Tom paparazzi, eavesdroppers and investigative journalists are not over and above the "Right to Privacy"
Raymart even attempted to get Tulfo's phone. Would you allow a stranger to take your private property away from you?
I was NOT there and therefore NOT competent to comment on this. But yes, I will not allow anyone to take my private property if someone tried to take it away from me because that is part of my Right To Privacy.
Claudine is just saying that because she was caught being herself.
The moral of the story is pipol is to behave properly in public. Just because you are a has been does not give you the right to verbally abuse minimum wage employees and if you act like a Senorita do not fly the budget fares. Spend more with the flag carrier.
Again, I was NOT there. I will let the courts decide on factual issues. If you think Claudine was acting like a palengkera, so be it. I wasn’t even touching on what really transpired! What I care about and my main point really is that everyone, celebrity or not, should exercise restraint in everything they do and be cautious about the rights of others.
Peace!
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anu ulit yung kasong grave threat yung ginawa ng tulfo brothers? di ba madalas naman gawin ni ben tulfo yon sa tv? yung mumurahin yung general (for example) tapos sasabihin niya, "wag lang tayo mag-krus ng daan." Or, "uupakan kita kung mabalitaan kong binugbog mo ulit asawa mo." what's the difference between that and the threat to santiago?
i think kasi pag yung tiwaling opisyal yung pinagbabantaan it's sort of a crusade to help people who are maligned while sa kaso naman ni raymart it's all personal
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GUYS...ok na raw sila ;D
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anu ulit yung kasong grave threat yung ginawa ng tulfo brothers? di ba madalas naman gawin ni ben tulfo yon sa tv? yung mumurahin yung general (for example) tapos sasabihin niya, "wag lang tayo mag-krus ng daan." Or, "uupakan kita kung mabalitaan kong binugbog mo ulit asawa mo." what's the difference between that and the threat to santiago?
MTRCB chair was interviewed earlier at DZBB and she has confirmed that T3 Program was warned several times already becasue of what you are citing above, apparently, there were several violations already
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MTRCB chair was interviewed earlier at DZBB and she has confirmed that T3 Program was warned several times already becasue of what you are citing above, apparently, there were several violations already
Sabi nga ng isang nagcomment sa ibang forum: "These tulfo brothers are macho wannabes and their biggest weapon is their mouth."
BOOM! ;D
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GUYS...ok na raw sila ;D
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;D ;D ;D
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Can anyone agree on what the real cause of this incident is? Was it CP mishandling the bags or is it claw-claw's animal behavior?
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Can anyone agree on what the real cause of this incident is? Was it CP mishandling the bags or is it claw-claw's animal behavior?
baggage offloading happens.. i think its more of the outburst followed by the picture taking followed by the mauling incident..
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baggage offloading happens.. i think its more of the outburst followed by the picture taking followed by the mauling incident..
+1
;)
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Can anyone agree on what the real cause of this incident is? Was it CP mishandling the bags or is it claw-claw's animal behavior?
LOL @ claw claw's animal behavior...... according to NAIA, strike 3 na raw si Claw claw sa kanila sa mga ganyang tantrums....
Hindi naman nawala yung luggage nasama lang sa ibang flight pero late lang pagdating.... kung may importante ka bang gamit, ilalagay mo sa check-in? Come on, ilang beses na sila nagtravel (abroad pa nga yung iba), alam naman siguro nila na these things happen. Like delayed flights, offloaded baggage, etc.... it's not like it's their first time!
Woot!
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GUYS...ok na raw sila ;D
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Tawa ako dito ;D
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LOL @ claw claw's animal behavior...... according to NAIA, strike 3 na raw si Claw claw sa kanila sa mga ganyang tantrums....
Hindi naman nawala yung luggage nasama lang sa ibang flight pero late lang pagdating.... kung may importante ka bang gamit, ilalagay mo sa check-in? Come on, ilang beses na sila nagtravel (abroad pa nga yung iba), alam naman siguro nila na these things happen. Like delayed flights, offloaded baggage, etc.... it's not like it's their first time!
Woot!
claudine = feeling importante
besides the private jet, dapat meron din siyang private airport! ::)
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I havent been to Boracay but what super valuable and sensitive things can you carry back from that place na ikakaputakti ng butse mo dahil delayed ang luggage?
Delayed luggage happens and in my experience, I always gained whenever my luggages were delayed by the airline for whatever reason. Impossible namang walang any kind or form of compensation from the airlines yata - well I havent taken an airline na hindi nag-offer ng apology and "something else" for delayed luggages. Sinong aayaw sa libreng delivery sa bahay or hotel and other potential fringe benefits, lalo na kung maduming underwear lang ang laman ng maleta?
But then Im not a VIP so I dont have the mentality of those jerks.
Kaya nga all important stuff must be in my hand-carried items everywhere I travel.
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Kaya nga all important stuff must be in my hand-carried items everywhere I travel.
Exactly! May potential pa na "mawala" na ng tuluyan ang checked in baggage mo.... so why put, lets say, your important documents, money, jewelry, MEDICINES kung alam mo na pwede mawala or madelay?
She's an "artista". She travels a lot. Alam nya dapat yun.... Unless, well... :P
Kinakainit pa ng ulo nila is yung 3 hours delayed daw yung flights nila. Sila lang ba ang pasahero ng flight? Tsk.... syempre nabwisit din siguro yung ibang passengers. Pero sya lang ang nagwawawala dun. Why? Because she is Claw Claw?
Primadonna attitude. Phttoooey!
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She's an "artista". She travels a lot. Alam nya dapat yun.... Unless, well... :P
artista daw siya, so that means she's important daw.
AND she's the type daw na ayaw na ayaw pinaghihintay. ::) ;D
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I havent been to Boracay but what super valuable and sensitive things can you carry back from that place na ikakaputakti ng butse mo dahil delayed ang luggage?
Delayed luggage happens and in my experience, I always gained whenever my luggages were delayed by the airline for whatever reason. Sinong aayaw sa libreng delivery sa bahay or hotel and other potential fringe benefits, lalo na kung maduming underwear lang ang laman ng maleta?
But then Im not a VIP so I dont have the mentality of those jerks.
Kaya nga all important stuff must be in my hand-carried items everywhere I travel.
I've never had my luggage go missing in all my plane flying travels. But it's my one constant fear because its one of the most common passenger inconveniences out there.
I can never imagine myself in claw-claw's shoes at that time. It's not in my personality to do unto others what she allegedly did to the staff in a situation like that. Wala akong ego at hindi ako nagpapaka-importante.
Pero marami akong gadgets na may camera ;D Gagayahin ko talaga si Tulfo pero ang mali nya, hindi sya marunong gumamit ng zoom lens ;D ;D ;D
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Exactly! May potential pa na "mawala" na ng tuluyan ang checked in baggage mo.... so why put, lets say, your important documents, money, jewelry, MEDICINES kung alam mo na pwede mawala or madelay?
She's an "artista". She travels a lot. Alam nya dapat yun.... Unless, well... :P
Kinakainit pa ng ulo nila is yung 3 hours delayed daw yung flights nila. Sila lang ba ang pasahero ng flight? Tsk.... syempre nabwisit din siguro yung ibang passengers. Pero sya lang ang nagwawawala dun. Why? Because she is Claw Claw?
Primadonna attitude. Phttoooey!
I think bawal ang liquid canisters/bottles with certain volume as hand carry. And sa pagkakadinig ko yung mga gamot sa hika nung anak nila ung laman. Not confirmed. ;D
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Yung spray for hika? Puede yon because I always carry my daughter's. Kung iniwan nila yung mga gamot na tabletas sa maleta, or wala man lang pang emergency kit for their asthmatic child, ang TANGA nilang magulang!
I think bawal ang liquid canisters/bottles with certain volume as hand carry. And sa pagkakadinig ko yung mga gamot sa hika nung anak nila ung laman. Not confirmed. ;D
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I think bawal ang liquid canisters/bottles with certain volume as hand carry. And sa pagkakadinig ko yung mga gamot sa hika nung anak nila ung laman. Not confirmed. ;D
liquid above 100ml ang bawal.. below 100ml pwede na.. for reference, most perfume bottles are 100ml.. pag puno, pag di na puno at sasabihin ng airport na bawal, pwede mong sabihin na below 100ml na yan, bawas na...
ang naisip ko, gamot sa hika is pressurized kaya baka ipinagbawal rin.. im not sure kung may size limitation, pero then again pressurized is bawal nga. but then again, gamot yan.. what if middle of flight inatake ng hika ang passenger.. i doubt kung may ready ang airplane na gamot.. so i think its a borderline case.. i haveto ask re medication na pressurized such as ashtma medicine.
Yung spray for hika? Puede yon because I always carry my daughter's. Kung iniwan nila yung mga gamot na tabletas sa maleta, or wala man lang pang emergency kit for their asthmatic child, ang TANGA nilang magulang!
edit: ayun.. answered ang question ko... thanks sir. ;D
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Sabi nga ng isang nagcomment sa ibang forum: "These tulfo brothers are macho wannabes and their biggest weapon is their mouth."
BOOM! ;D
may kasabihan akong madalas marinig sa probinsya
Ang aso daw pag kahol ng kahol, di marunong mangagat, sobrang tatapang sa radyo pero i doubt it kung kaya nila gawin yung sinasabi nila
mas nakakatakot pa yung reaksyon ni raymart sa pagbabanta nila, "Syempre naman po sino naman po ang di matatakot para sa kaligtasan namin dala ng pagbabanta nila?"
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I dont know about Cebu Pacific but Im positive that the 100ml liquid limit is NOT practiced by PAL in NAIA2. Lagi akong nagdadala ng PET-bottled softdrinks from labas kasi ang mahal ng inumin sa loob tapos hindi pa malamig. hehehe.
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Pero marami akong gadgets na may camera ;D Gagayahin ko talaga si Tulfo pero ang mali nya, hindi sya marunong gumamit ng zoom lens ;D ;D ;D
celfone camera lang kasi kaya walang zoom lens ;D
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I dont know about Cebu Pacific but Im positive that the 100ml liquid limit is NOT practiced by PAL in NAIA2. Lagi akong nagdadala ng PET-bottled softdrinks from labas kasi ang mahal ng inumin sa loob tapos hindi pa malamig. hehehe.
nadala nyo upto the plane sir?
on a related note, yung friend ko, may dalang 4 na lighter... 2 di sumisindi.. (gift sa kanya) and 2 sumisindi.. di sya pinapasok until ni let go nya yung 2 not working lighters (puro zippo pa naman)..
ironic, coz after the final x ray, dun sa mga may bilihan ng pagkain, dami rin naman nagtitinda ng lighter..
onga pala, naisip ko rin... dami rin above 100ml na water for sale beyond the final xray..
so ano ang purpose ng final screening ng liquids kung makakabili ka rin? ???
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Yes hanggang plane. Lahat kaming tatlong pamilya may baon na kanya kanyang favorite drink in a 500ml PET bottle.
Except for US carriers (YATA), ok na yung binibiling drinks sa loob because the assumption is "safe" yon - so take note terrorists! However, kapag meron kang lay-over somewhere, then dadaan ulit sa security check/immigration check (for instance Hongkong Airport connecting to flights to Europe, Middle East, US or Japan), then they will confiscate the drinks (or papainom sa yo) - and then puede ka na naman bumili ng drinks after the security check (inside).
nadala nyo upto the plane sir?
onga pala, naisip ko rin... dami rin above 100ml na water for sale beyond the final xray..
so ano ang purpose ng final screening ng liquids kung makakabili ka rin? ???
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Yes hanggang plane. Lahat kaming tatlong pamilya may baon na kanya kanyang favorite drink in a 500ml PET bottle.
Except for US carriers (YATA), ok na yung binibiling drinks sa loob because the assumption is "safe" yon - so take note terrorists! However, kapag meron kang lay-over somewhere, then dadaan ulit sa security check/immigration check (for instance Hongkong Airport connecting to flights to Europe, Middle East, US or Japan), then they will confiscate the drinks (or papainom sa yo) - and then puede ka na naman bumili ng drinks after the security check (inside).
which again defeats the purpose of the banning of liquids 100ml above diba?
ex. if i have a bomb that needs around 1/L water as a final ingredient.. e di bibili nalang ako after the final check...
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celfone camera lang kasi kaya walang zoom lens ;D
Kahit digital zoom pwede na. Kaya ng mga chifanga na celphone yun ;D
nadala nyo upto the plane sir?
on a related note, yung friend ko, may dalang 4 na lighter... 2 di sumisindi.. (gift sa kanya) and 2 sumisindi.. di sya pinapasok until ni let go nya yung 2 not working lighters (puro zippo pa naman)..
ironic, coz after the final x ray, dun sa mga may bilihan ng pagkain, dami rin naman nagtitinda ng lighter..
onga pala, naisip ko rin... dami rin above 100ml na water for sale beyond the final xray..
so ano ang purpose ng final screening ng liquids kung makakabili ka rin? ???
Tapos paano kung apat kayo na pasahero may dala na tig-25ml na bote ng liquids? Madali lang magkita uli sa eroplano para i-combine ito para maging 100ml. Boom! ;D ;D ;D
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masibak kaya ang tatlong tulfo sa kapatid network? or suspended lang?
TV5 suspends Tulfo brothers
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/09/12/tv5-suspends-tulfo-brothers
I wonder who will chicken out if they see again ;D
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Havent noticed sa NAIA but the bigger airports have fast liquid analyzer sa security check - pero papainom pa rin yung laman after confirming that the liquid content is not one of those considered "hazardous".
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which again defeats the purpose of the banning of liquids 100ml above diba?
ex. if i have a bomb that needs around 1/L water as a final ingredient.. e di bibili nalang ako after the final check...
When inside kasi sure sila na water kasi na screen na nila bago dinala sa loob ng store. Kaya hindi pwede galing sa labas na liquid. Actually ang prevent nila is yung liquid bomb. pwede ka naman dala ng achohol, and gawa ka fire bomb. Or two liquid that when combined will create an explosion.
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We are on a win win situation here. Asar tayo kay CB tapos palakpak tayong lahat kse nabugbog din sa wakas si MT, hahahaha!
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TV5 suspends Tulfo brothers
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/09/12/tv5-suspends-tulfo-brothers
I wonder who will chicken out if they see again ;D
and the replacement host wouldbe....,
mon tulfo- ;D
parang naging 3 in 1 coffee
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Oh... With regards to the airpor rumble. I don't like raymart or Claudine and I don't like tulfo even more. True the tulfo brothers and father have helped a lot of people. But they are known for cowboy journalism. Which in my book is not a good thing. And another thing Freedom of the press has to have its ethical limits. They should respect ones right to privacy. And one more thing... The statement issued by the t3 brothers, they should be sued for unjust vexation or a heavier case of grave threat.
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I want raymant and claudine to be montulfoed as well. :P
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Correction on the word father... Elder brother pala.
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Correction on the word father... Elder brother pala.
tama pa rin naman kasi sabi nga ni Mon Tulfo, siya ang tumayong tatay sa kanyang mga kapatid ;D
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parang ganito yung nangyari kay Claudine kaya nagalit kay Mon Tulfo
VIDEO: Rajon Rondo Doesn't Want TNT Filming Him (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-9hKnGomj7c#!)
;D
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Kinakainit pa ng ulo nila is yung 3 hours delayed daw yung flights nila. Sila lang ba ang pasahero ng flight? Tsk.... syempre nabwisit din siguro yung ibang passengers. Pero sya lang ang nagwawawala dun. Why? Because she is Claw Claw?
Primadonna attitude. Phttoooey!
Delayed flights are rarely caused by the airline company. Madalas yan dahil sa air or ground traffic, o kaya poor weather condition. The airline companies generaly lose a lot of money sa delays kaya they make sure na hindi sila nagcacause ng delays.
Sa experience ko greatest cause ng delay sa flights dito sa atin is yung capacity limitation ng NAIA. Nagdagdag lang tayo ng terminals pero yung runways yun pa din. Madalas congested na yung schedule so yung air traffic controllers can no longer manage yung traffic. When that happens, unang nadedelay yung incoming domestic flights, followed by incoming short international flights since sila yung mas madali i-ground sa place of origin. They generally try not to delay departures from Manila kasi mapupuno ang airport, at alangan namang idelay nila yung arriving long-haul flights na on the way na at kokonti na lang ang fuel.
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parang ganito yung nangyari kay Claudine kaya nagalit kay Mon Tulfo
VIDEO: Rajon Rondo Doesn't Want TNT Filming Him (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-9hKnGomj7c#!)
;D
kasama kasi ni rondo yung pamilya niya. could be the reason for claw slapping mon tulfo with a child abuse case. i'm not fan of the celtics, of rajon or raymart and claw, but when a stranger is taking a picture or video of my daughter without permission i will do something about it.
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kasama kasi ni rondo yung pamilya niya. could be the reason for claw slapping mon tulfo with a child abuse case. i'm not fan of the celtics, of rajon or raymart and claw, but when a stranger is taking a picture or video of my daughter without permission i will do something about it.
sobra rin ksi un mga press ngaun garapalan na tlga becoz of their reason Freedom of Press eh madalas below the belt na un ginagawa nila panu naman un privacy ng isang individual db?
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Dapat talaga me rule dyan like the press media should inform first the concerned party that they will shoot a video and for what purpose. Also dapat magpakilala muna with ID yung press media person. Tapos siguro mas ok pa kung meron waiver na signed by both parties para legal na legal. Dito maiiwasan yung black mail.
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"Ikinuwento ni Raymart na meron silang nakikitang van na umaaligid sa kanilang bahay kaya nagpakuha na raw sila ng mga pulis na naging security nila."
http://pep.ph/news/pepalerts
I think this time, mananalo na si Raymart ng award for Best Actor. Hihi. ;D
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Nice analysis by michael tan:
There’s much more, of course, to the Tulfo-Santiago incident: Tulfo’s sense of entitlement (a journalist’s right to photograph public figures), the Santiagos’ sense of entitlement over privacy, the Santiagos’ sense of entitlement over luggage, Claudine Barretto’s tongue-lashing of ground crew, the aggravations that come with flying on the cheap—and the superstitious might want to blame the supermoon driving men to lunacy. Whatever, in the weeks to come, I don’t expect to hear too many “sorry” or “pasensiya” around this case, given the way masculinities, machismo and male pride will play out.
Full column here
http://opinion.inquirer.net/28339/pasensya-lalake (http://opinion.inquirer.net/28339/pasensya-lalake)
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(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/574938_292352464186094_100002340279207_661563_1905411180_n.jpg)
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^parang nagamitan ng clorox yung mga damit nila ;D
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Question: If Claudine got kicked on the left leg as seen on pics showing "bruises" - which looks more like mud smeared on her leg... Bakit yung tungkod nya nasa right at iika-ika sya sa right leg? ???
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Question: If Claudine got kicked on the left leg as seen on pics showing "bruises" - which looks more like mud smeared on her leg... Bakit yung tungkod nya nasa right at iika-ika sya sa right leg? ???
Baka nga ang next scene nya ay naka wheelchair na sya....... for the win! ;D
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Question: If Claudine got kicked on the left leg as seen on pics showing "bruises" - which looks more like mud smeared on her leg... Bakit yung tungkod nya nasa right at iika-ika sya sa right leg? ???
Hahaha, napansin ko rin yan ;D
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Question: So nagsampahan na sila ng kaso, kanya kanyang kampo...... asan si GUY IN PINK?
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Oo nga, sino nga ba si guy in a pink shirt? Bakit di sya pinalilitaw sa tv news?
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Lesson for Raymart: Control your wife
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/05/09/12/lesson-raymart-control-your-wife
Excerpts:
"... Santiago and Barretto are public figures in every sense of the law, personalities in whom the Filipino public retain a general interest, and when a celebrity throws a tantrum in a public place as Barretto did, a journalist—not even one assigned to the entertainment beat—who happened to be on the scene forfeits his stripes should he fail to report what he saw.
In that sense, a journalist is always on call. Tulfo’s cell phone was his data-gathering tool AND his private property.
Whether or not one is a journalist, taking photographs or footage of an incident occurring in a public place is not classified as a crime.
No debate will ensue if, for example, the image/s being recorded involve the commission of a crime, or a dramatic rescue from a natural disaster, or the antics of an animal or child, or a breath-taking slice of nature.
None of that apply here where Santiago’s sole purpose is to confiscate the evidence of his wife’s making a spectacle of herself in public, images which could cause them personal embarrassment and possibly entail commercial repercussions.
Any sane journalist, though, will not willingly hand over his proof upon demand of an irate stranger, however famous.
Why is Santiago objecting to Tulfo’s taking pictures and not to the person who took footage of him beating up a reporter?
That recording, too, was unauthorized, yet Santiago and company did not gang up on the person who digitally recorded the brawl now receiving a million hits on Youtube. Without realizing it, that person became a citizen-journalist invested in showing the public what transpired....
Which lesson should be easier for Santiago to learn: (a) to control his temper or (b) to control a reporter? The answer is (c): control your wife."
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Oo nga, sino nga ba si guy in a pink shirt? Bakit di sya pinalilitaw sa tv news?
anak DAW ng general?
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anak DAW ng general?
Aahh..... kaya feeling UNTOUCHABLE. Yun na! ;D
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I wonder how many feminist groups will go bananas over this?
Then again this was written by a woman.
Lesson for Raymart: Control your wife
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/05/09/12/lesson-raymart-control-your-wife
Excerpts:
"... Santiago and Barretto are public figures in every sense of the law, personalities in whom the Filipino public retain a general interest, and when a celebrity throws a tantrum in a public place as Barretto did, a journalist—not even one assigned to the entertainment beat—who happened to be on the scene forfeits his stripes should he fail to report what he saw.
In that sense, a journalist is always on call. Tulfo’s cell phone was his data-gathering tool AND his private property.
Whether or not one is a journalist, taking photographs or footage of an incident occurring in a public place is not classified as a crime.
No debate will ensue if, for example, the image/s being recorded involve the commission of a crime, or a dramatic rescue from a natural disaster, or the antics of an animal or child, or a breath-taking slice of nature.
None of that apply here where Santiago’s sole purpose is to confiscate the evidence of his wife’s making a spectacle of herself in public, images which could cause them personal embarrassment and possibly entail commercial repercussions.
Any sane journalist, though, will not willingly hand over his proof upon demand of an irate stranger, however famous.
Why is Santiago objecting to Tulfo’s taking pictures and not to the person who took footage of him beating up a reporter?
That recording, too, was unauthorized, yet Santiago and company did not gang up on the person who digitally recorded the brawl now receiving a million hits on Youtube. Without realizing it, that person became a citizen-journalist invested in showing the public what transpired....
Which lesson should be easier for Santiago to learn: (a) to control his temper or (b) to control a reporter? The answer is (c): control your wife."
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i was one of those wondering if indeed Mon Tulfo was writing on the inefficiencies of Cebu Pacific. Found these on the inquirier- some of the articles that Ramon Tulfo wrote on Cebu Pacific
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/165375/filipinos-don't-assert-their-rights
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/166321/why-cebu-pacific-doesnt-use-airbridge
so this is why he was interested in taking a shot of the lady haranguing someone at the Cebu Pacific counter, to document another misstep by Cebu Pacific in handling their customers. He really was writing about Cebu Pacific's inefficiencies and it was not just a cover story to reason out why he was taking the shot.
Just imagine if RS was only asking politely and not aggressively taking the mobile phone of MT - this whole incident would have been just another article of MT berating Cebu Pacific's inefficiencies. Let us not forget HE IS A JOURNALIST, and he is not taking a shot just because. He did not even insinuated himself in the middle of the argument, he was taking his shot from a distance.
as it stands now, because ikinahihiya ni RS ang pagwawala ni CB (why else would he want to delete the video or shot, they could have just turned it to their favor saying they are just LOUDLY expressing their sentiments) sa Cebu Pacific, nagkaroon na tayo ngayon ng Thrilla in NAIA.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/189487/that-airport-incident
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i was one of those wondering if indeed Mon Tulfo was writing on the inefficiencies of Cebu Pacific. Found these on the inquirier- some of the articles that Ramon Tulfo wrote on Cebu Pacific
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/165375/filipinos-don't-assert-their-rights
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/166321/why-cebu-pacific-doesnt-use-airbridge
so this is why he was interested in taking a shot of the lady haranguing someone at the Cebu Pacific counter, to document another misstep by Cebu Pacific in handling their customers. He really was writing about Cebu Pacific's inefficiencies and it was not just a cover story to reason out why he was taking the shot.
Just imagine if RS was only asking politely and not aggressively taking the mobile phone of MT - this whole incident would have been just another article of MT berating Cebu Pacific's inefficiencies. Let us not forget HE IS A JOURNALIST, and he is not taking a shot just because. He did not even insinuated himself in the middle of the argument, he was taking his shot from a distance.
as it stands now, because ikinahihiya ni RS ang pagwawala ni CB (why else would he want to delete the video or shot, they could have just turned it to their favor saying they are just LOUDLY expressing their sentiments) sa Cebu Pacific, nagkaroon na tayo ngayon ng Thrilla in NAIA.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/189487/that-airport-incident
sa mga abogado natin dito, pwede ba ito gawin defense ni tulfo na wala sya malicious intent against the santiagos?
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Aahh..... kaya feeling UNTOUCHABLE. Yun na! ;D
kaya pala ang tapang din ni Raymart and Claudine. ::) :P
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i was one of those wondering if indeed Mon Tulfo was writing on the inefficiencies of Cebu Pacific. Found these on the inquirier- some of the articles that Ramon Tulfo wrote on Cebu Pacific
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/165375/filipinos-don't-assert-their-rights
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/166321/why-cebu-pacific-doesnt-use-airbridge
so this is why he was interested in taking a shot of the lady haranguing someone at the Cebu Pacific counter, to document another misstep by Cebu Pacific in handling their customers. He really was writing about Cebu Pacific's inefficiencies and it was not just a cover story to reason out why he was taking the shot.
Just imagine if RS was only asking politely and not aggressively taking the mobile phone of MT - this whole incident would have been just another article of MT berating Cebu Pacific's inefficiencies. Let us not forget HE IS A JOURNALIST, and he is not taking a shot just because. He did not even insinuated himself in the middle of the argument, he was taking his shot from a distance.
as it stands now, because ikinahihiya ni RS ang pagwawala ni CB (why else would he want to delete the video or shot, they could have just turned it to their favor saying they are just LOUDLY expressing their sentiments) sa Cebu Pacific, nagkaroon na tayo ngayon ng Thrilla in NAIA.
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/189487/that-airport-incident
ok lang yun sire 'ika nga blessign in disguise kasi dahil sa RUMBLE in NAIA nalaman na palpak ang mga security, di gumagana ang CCTV, mas lalong iimbestigahan ang kapalpakan ng CebuPac.
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ok lang yun sire 'ika nga blessign in disguise kasi dahil sa RUMBLE in NAIA nalaman na palpak ang mga security, di gumagana ang CCTV, mas lalong iimbestigahan ang kapalpakan ng CebuPac.
This is what I learned from a reliable source: many times, CP pilots make 3 flights one after the other. This is very dangerous but they save a lot of money.
One time, after doing 2 domestic flights, the same pilots flew to Bangkok. Naka-auto pilot and nakatulog sila sa pagod and lumampas ng Bangkok. Ginising sila ng stewardess kaya nakabalik sila sa Bangkok.
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hi besprend mon! ;D ;D ;D
(http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/files/2011/11/jose-miguel-arroyo.jpg)
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guy in Pink is Eduardo Atilano as per ABS CBN: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/08/12/tulfo-got-what-he-deserves-santiagos-pals-say
Which reminds me, pop quiz hotshot:
if your child had an asthma attack, and due to stupidity of say your yaya (ayan ha, yaya na kunwari may sala) the meds were packed in your checked in luggage which were unfortunately offloaded and will arrive later, what will you do?
A. Ask around if anyone has asthma meds or failing that, see if there is a clinic or first aid station where you can request for the needed meds of your child. After which you can then feel righteous in shouting and berating the airlines after taking care of your child.
B. Get reaally angry at the airline customer reps who offloaded your baggage, meanwhile, your child is still having an asthma attack while you are shouting at Cebu Pacific, and your husband, instead of taking care of your child who is having an asthma attack, is just loitering around. Your child then witnesses you shouting at other people.
If you choose B, then...
Assuming for the sake of argument that MT pushed CB, so your hubby defends your honor. Instead of taking care of your child still having an asthma attack, you join your hubby and his friend ganging up on an old guy. Meanwhile, your child having an asthma attack, witnesses his/her parents ganging up on an old guy.
And then you file a child abuse case, because your child witnessed violence.
For the win!
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guy in Pink is Eduardo Atilano as per ABS CBN: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/08/12/tulfo-got-what-he-deserves-santiagos-pals-say
Which reminds me, pop quiz hotshot:
if your child had an asthma attack, and due to stupidity of say your yaya (ayan ha, yaya na kunwari may sala) the meds were packed in your checked in luggage which were unfortunately offloaded and will arrive later, what will you do?
A. Ask around if anyone has asthma meds or failing that, see if there is a clinic or first aid station where you can request for the needed meds of your child. After which you can then feel righteous in shouting and berating the airlines after taking care of your child.
B. Get reaally angry at the airline customer reps who offloaded your baggage, meanwhile, your child is still having an asthma attack while you are shouting at Cebu Pacific, and your husband, instead of taking care of your child who is having an asthma attack, is just loitering around. Your child then witnesses you shouting at other people.
If you choose B, then...
Assuming for the sake of argument that MT pushed CB, so your hubby defends your honor. Instead of taking care of your child still having an asthma attack, you join your hubby and his friend ganging up on an old guy. Meanwhile, your child having an asthma attack, witnesses his/her parents ganging up on an old guy.
And then you file a child abuse case, because your child witnessed violence.
For the win!
i believe it was not their child who was supposed to be having an asthma attack but their friends' child.
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This is what I learned from a reliable source: many times, CP pilots make 3 flights one after the other. This is very dangerous but they save a lot of money.
One time, after doing 2 domestic flights, the same pilots flew to Bangkok. Naka-auto pilot and nakatulog sila sa pagod and lumampas ng Bangkok. Ginising sila ng stewardess kaya nakabalik sila sa Bangkok.
You have to consider the duration of the flight. What if it was three 60 minute flights?
CP will never endanger their planes nor the safety of their passengers. Why else are there so many delays? ;D
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I'd have one of my alalays buy the kid's meds at the nearest drugstore.
Showbiz types are not known for common sense or intelligence. :)
guy in Pink is Eduardo Atilano as per ABS CBN: http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/entertainment/05/08/12/tulfo-got-what-he-deserves-santiagos-pals-say
Which reminds me, pop quiz hotshot:
if your child had an asthma attack, and due to stupidity of say your yaya (ayan ha, yaya na kunwari may sala) the meds were packed in your checked in luggage which were unfortunately offloaded and will arrive later, what will you do?
A. Ask around if anyone has asthma meds or failing that, see if there is a clinic or first aid station where you can request for the needed meds of your child. After which you can then feel righteous in shouting and berating the airlines after taking care of your child.
B. Get reaally angry at the airline customer reps who offloaded your baggage, meanwhile, your child is still having an asthma attack while you are shouting at Cebu Pacific, and your husband, instead of taking care of your child who is having an asthma attack, is just loitering around. Your child then witnesses you shouting at other people.
If you choose B, then...
Assuming for the sake of argument that MT pushed CB, so your hubby defends your honor. Instead of taking care of your child still having an asthma attack, you join your hubby and his friend ganging up on an old guy. Meanwhile, your child having an asthma attack, witnesses his/her parents ganging up on an old guy.
And then you file a child abuse case, because your child witnessed violence.
For the win!
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Is there a journalism grad in pdvd? Did Mon Tulfo go against any code of ethics for journalistss?
AFAIK, Tulfo is not a journalism graduate nor did he take any journalism courses.
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Is there a journalism grad in pdvd? Did Mon Tulfo go against any code of ethics for journalistss?
AFAIK, Tulfo is not a journalism graduate nor did he take any journalism courses.
I had some experience doing corporate communications for a major oil company. I can say that many popular TV journalists are of the peskier kind (offering gifts and bribes for insider info), and can bite back at you if you remain professional and do not cooperate (lalo na kung feeling nila eh kaya ka nila).
It's also true na nabibili at naiinfluence ang news in most cases (lalo na yung isang station), either by money or by strings. Kaya pag dun galing yung news, parang chismis lang ang treatment ko sa kanya unless naverify ko from another source.
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I had some experience doing corporate communications for a major oil company. I can say that many popular TV journalists are of the peskier kind (offering gifts and bribes for insider info), and can bite back at you if you remain professional and do not cooperate (lalo na kung feeling nila eh kaya ka nila).
It's also true na nabibili ang news in most cases lalo na sa certain stations.
amen to that brother! specially notorious ang mga showbiz "columnists" i have seen the brown envelopes they give away during press conferences. in fact one of my segment producers before was handed one not knowing na payola na nga iyon. nagulat na lang siya nung binuksan niya yung envelop nung nasa van na siya. ka-ching!
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amen to that brother! specially notorious ang mga showbiz "columnists" i have seen the brown envelopes they give away during press conferences. in fact one of my segment producers before was handed one not knowing na payola na nga iyon. nagulat na lang siya nung binuksan niya yung envelop nung nasa van na siya. ka-ching!
Totoo yan. At parang manliligaw pa na magpapadala sayo ng mga regalo, LOL. Kala mo ang bait bait pag kausap mo, pero pag di mo binigay ang gusto na scoop ayun bad publicity ka. LOL.
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T4 ac/dc? attack & collect / defend & collect ? ;D ::)
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T4 ac/dc? attack & collect / defend & collect ? ;D ::)
Sila di ko alam. Pero marami sa kabilang network na OO na OO ang sagot. ;D
At may stance din madalas yung networks sa events, kung saan mas pabor sa kanila or their favored talents, politicians, etc. Madalas it's more influencing the public than plainly reporting (which should be neutral).
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may kinikilang pinoprotektahan? ::)
kaya mababa ang tingin sa mga journalists. noong panahon ni marcos, "envelopmental journalism" (depends kung ano laman ng envelope, palagay ko hanggang ngayon patuloy pa rin. naging ac/dc naman yung iba nilalaro both sides)
siguro laking tuwa ni pgma mike arroyo sa nangyari sa bespren niya (MT) hehehe
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siguro laking tuwa ni pgma mike arroyo sa nangyari sa bespren niya (MT) hehehe
OT: bro anong issue ni tulfo kay pgma?
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OT: bro anong issue ni tulfo kay pgma?
sampol > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRTOJXN_QkQ
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sampol > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRTOJXN_QkQ
ah oki thanks, akala ko magkaibigan talaga :D
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ah oki thanks, akala ko magkaibigan talaga :D
dati besprend sila pero nagkasira. just cant remember ano pinagsimulan ng away nila.
best of friends worst of enemies? ;D
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I had some experience doing corporate communications for a major oil company. I can say that many popular TV journalists are of the peskier kind (offering gifts and bribes for insider info), and can bite back at you if you remain professional and do not cooperate (lalo na kung feeling nila eh kaya ka nila).
It's also true na nabibili at naiinfluence ang news in most cases (lalo na yung isang station), either by money or by strings. Kaya pag dun galing yung news, parang chismis lang ang treatment ko sa kanya unless naverify ko from another source.
Kaya nga daw itong isang newscaster ay sari-sari ang sasakyan... ???
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Kaya nga daw itong isang newscaster ay sari-sari ang sasakyan... ???
Di naman malayo, kung sinong newscaster pa yan. :P
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Kaya nga daw itong isang newscaster ay sari-sari ang sasakyan... ???
da who? ;D
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^ blind item nanaman ;D baka malipat tayo sa tsismis thread nito ;D ;D ;D
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Is there a journalism grad in pdvd? Did Mon Tulfo go against any code of ethics for journalistss?
AFAIK, Tulfo is not a journalism graduate nor did he take any journalism courses.
I'm a journ grad with a background in newspaper journalism, PR and corp comm. As far as I know Tulfo didn't anything wrong if you'll look at it from a purely news-gathering function. May protection talaga ang journalists -- the media is considered the fourth estate because of its "check and balance" role in society.
Having said that, do I consider Tulfo a journalist in the strictest sense of the word? In my opinion, he's only a borderline journalist. Admittedly there are journalists that do take advantage of their role and position. I'd be stupid to say otherwise. But a few rotten apples should not detract from the fact that journalism is a noble, and oftentimes noble, profession.
It's anyone's guess what Tulfo wanted to do with the footage or photos he got. Is it purely for reportage purposes? Is it get a sensationalist scoop? No one really knows.
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Which reminds me, pop quiz hotshot:
if your child had an asthma attack, and due to stupidity of say your yaya (ayan ha, yaya na kunwari may sala) the meds were packed in your checked in luggage which were unfortunately offloaded and will arrive later, what will you do?
Aaminin ko na tatanga-tanga rin ako, kasi alam kong napakaimportante ng gamot, pero pinaubaya ko lang sa yaya... :D
And then you file a child abuse case, because your child witnessed violence.
And then a child abuse case is filed against me, for neglecting my child's medicine. Di ba? ;)
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Aminin na nila. Ang mga gamot kuno ay ginagawa lang nilang palusot. Ang simpleng dahilan kung bakit nagwala si Claudine ay dahil mayabang lang talaga siya.
Kaya nga wala namang binabanggit na gamot si Claudine noong sinasabon niya ang employee. Naisip na lang yang gamot ek-ek na yan nung iniinterview na si Raymart.
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Aminin na nila. Ang mga gamot kuno ay ginagawa lang nilang palusot. Ang simpleng dahilan kung bakit nagwala si Claudine ay dahil mayabang lang talaga siya.
Kaya nga wala namang binabanggit na gamot si Claudine noong sinasabon niya ang employee. Naisip na lang yang gamot ek-ek na yan nung iniinterview na si Raymart.
From a commenter at pep.ph:
"I have done a lot of travelling in my life and have experienced airport hassles just like anybody like late baggage arrival and lost items. However, I do not remember screaming at anyone because of this. Destination airport ground employees are not responsible for baggage loaded at another airport so I do not understand why they should be yelled at. Good breeding starts with knowing how to carry yourself in public especially in a stressful situation and uncontrolled environment. For anyone to say that Ms Baretto is within her right to yell at an airline employee even though it was not their fault is beyond me. Many years ago before Prague became a tourist destination, the airline left all our baggage in Frankfurt. When we inquired, they told us politely that because our plane arrived in Frankfurt just 18 minutes before the departure to Prague which is true, they did not have enough time to load our baggage. It made sense to us and that was the end of it. They delivered our baggage at our hotel as promised. When we got back from dinner, they were already in out hotel rooms. Similar situation happened in Rome and in Firenze a few years after that. I understand Ms Baretto has a prima donna attitude and it was the root of the problem. If she treated the ground attendant with respect, Mr Tulfo would not have any reason to take a picture or a video to show the world how Ms Baretto treats people. They saw it and tried to get the phone from Mr Tulfo because it will prove again how bad Ms Baretto's attitude is. Ms Baretto and her husband will have their day in court and hoefully this will be sorted out. I will always be on the flight attendant's side. Instead of Ms Baretto giving an apology, she decided to warn the family of the flight attendant that they are ready for any legal action by the flight attendant's. This just tells you Ms Baretto's lack of common decency."
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From a commenter at pep.ph:
''I understand Ms Baretto has a prima donna attitude and it was the root of the problem. If she treated the ground attendant with respect, Mr Tulfo would not have any reason to take a picture or a video to show the world how Ms Baretto treats people. They saw it and tried to get the phone from Mr Tulfo because it will prove again how bad Ms Baretto's attitude is. Ms Baretto and her husband will have their day in court and hoefully this will be sorted out."
exactly what i was trying to point out a few pages back. ;)
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The Family That Brawls Together, Stays Together
Lourd de Veyra | Published: May 11, 2012 - 4:30pm
http://www.spot.ph/featured/51065/the-family-that-brawls-together-stays-together/1
To be human, after all. To remain steadfast and calm after hours of being stuck inside a confined space for hours is to be a joyless robot—or just someone with a nice stash of horse tranquilizers. Off-loaded baggage? I’d blow my top, too. Hell, I myself feel like punching someone if for ten minutes I’m unable to find the hotdog stand.
There is a long history of aviation-related melees involving celebrities and media people. For one, there’s Bjork, who in 1996 beat the crap out of television reporter Julie Kaufman upon arriving at the Bangkok airport. And Kaufman was neither a pesky paparazzi nor a TMZ staffer willfully provoking the subject. What did she do to merit a Bjork going medieval on her ass?
All the reporter said was “Welcome to Bangkok!”
But that’s Bjork, who likes wearing dresses made from dead swans and who sang songs like “And if you complain once more, you’ll meet an army of me.” However, it was said that the reporter had been trailing Bjork for four days. And if you saw Bjork in that footage, she was pushing her cart with her head down, the universal gesture for “I am so not in the mood.”
Things, however, were different with what happened on that fateful day of May 6, 2012 at the NAIA Terminal 3. We shall no longer go into details. After all the jokes, the punchlines, the threats, the social media comments, after the whirl of speculation as to who really was at fault— after the smoke clears and the dust settles— let us now talk about Celebrities Behaving Badly (badly, in this case, means more than just dancing drunk in Boracay on Holy Week).
There is also a long history of Pinoy showbiz personalities who have figured in a fracas one way or the other.
Divina Valencia on national TV once whacked the head of Dr. Rey dela Cruz with a microphone. Rudy Fernandez also hit Bert “Tawa” Marcelo for a joke the action icon did not find funny (Not captured on tape, sadly). Richard Gomez and Robin Padilla once traded blows during a heated basketball match during the Star Olympics sometime in the ‘90s (This, too, was captured on TV). There are many others, some of them just near-blows.
People beat the crap out of other people everyday, but it becomes truly magical when celebrities do it. One of the hallmarks of modern civilization is the ability to have transcended behavior that would be otherwise described as barbaric. That’s why we invented sports, game shows, and Jersey Shore—to put our penchant for such bloodlust and competition within a controlled framework. But Mon Tulfo and Raymart and Claudine are simply human. To invoke the most badass mothercraper of them all, Shakespeare in The Merchant of Venice: “If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?”
Now the National Press Club, the National Union of Journalists, Gabriela, the MTRCB, and a senior citizens’ party-list are jumping into the discussion? Heck, even Mar Roxas of the Department of Transportation and Communications was asked to comment (Kasi nga naman: airport = transportation, right? “It’s a private matter” was his thankfully sober comment). Fortunately, Malacañang had the good sense to refrain from giving an opinion. But this is the Philippines, where everyone has say on everything. I’m surprised they didn’t ask for Doña Dionisia’s expert views on the matter. (Hey, they once asked her about the RH bill.)
Now due charges have been filed, people have been suspended and vaguely sincere apologies have been issued. But the trading of subtle yet pointed statements continues. In an interview, Tulfo said: “Hindi ko naman siya kilala. Maganda ang mukha niya, pero mataba siya.” Ouch.
“Hindi ko naman siya kilala,” said Santiago. Both can be construed as snarky potshots, subtly mean dismissals of a person’s social standing. It’s in effect saying, “Who the f---k are you? Why should I even bother?” Whaaaaaaaaat? You mean Mr. Tulfo never saw Mula sa Puso and Milan? Was he too busy writing about abusive cops and Mike Arroyo? This is Mon Tulfo, who casually calls P-Noy “panot” on his radio show. On the other hand you can say, “Whaaaat? You mean Claudine and Raymart have never read Tulfo’s column on the Inquirer? They’ve never watched Hoy Gising back in the days? But the stinging jab is: “Hindi naman ako tinuruan ang mga magulang ko na pumatol sa matanda.” Booom.
The more hurtful part of the whole incident, it seems, is not simply Mon’s right black eye—it’s the big bruise on the family name’s macho ego. Which is why all three younger Tulfo brothers, as of this writing, were suspended by TV5. The official statement contains the phrase “emotions at play.” The original Tulfo— the one who started it all and with a perennial baseball bat on the Inquirer website — beaten up by the stars of Ang TV, Gimik, Estudyante Blues, and Bantatay?! And he admits that it wasn’t the physical part that stung. “Sanay naman tayo diyan, bilang isang lalaki,” he said. He admitted on TV that it was truly the humiliation. But he waxed lyrical, “A man has to suffer defeat in other to be victorious in the end.” Hmmm. What could that mean?
Many are the lessons to be learned from this unfortunate incident.
• Pink is not always the color of tranquility as psychology says. In the skirmish, all three parties were wearing pink. Bayani “Hitler” Fernando, you’re dead wrong. Pink, paint psychology believes, relaxes the muscles. It is said to have soothing, healing qualities. (And to think that it is essentially a girlie color is wrong; such notion is not hard-wired in the human brain according to studies.) Buuuuuut….
• Grave threat? But how is that any different from an FPJ movie where he always threatens Paquito Diaz and Eddie Garcia in the most dramatic of manners. Okay, granting it’s fiction…. But why is it when Annabelle Rama threatens Nadia Montenegro the MTRCB doesn’t really do anything? Or Amalia Fuentes? Is it because that when the Tulfos threaten, they look like they really mean it?
• Even serious news programs are not above reporting on the delightfully silly memes spreading throughout social media. It only took less than a day for geniuses to paste the heads of the Tulfos and the Santiagos—including Miriam—onto the bodies of Avengers characters, or on the field of a Mortal Kombat game, or an MMA event poster. But that’s what happens when you’ve got an impeachment trial that’s so excruciatingly boring that it would even put a corpse to sleep.
• Being in airport arrival areas put you in a fragile mental state. You’re tired and cranky after being stuck in a cramped space in cattle-like conditions, unfed except maybe for a desperate cup of criminally overpriced coffee, and you’re bound to snap anytime. You are a ticking time bomb. The next time you see somebody barking at an airline crew, stay the f—k away, unless it’s a matter of national security. To paraphrase an old adage: “Magbiro ka na sa lasing, ‘wag lang sa na-bad trip sa Cebu Pacific.”
• As to the issue of child abuse. But nobody in their right mind would want to behave like this in front of children (perhaps with the exception of some Catholic priests). It’s bad enough for Raymart and Claudine’s children to have personally witnessed the fracas. But repeated airing of the footage brawl on national TV? What does that do except to raise the number of young children to terrifying multiples? What values does that teach them?
That the family that brawls together, stays together?
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para mas masaya... ::)
http://www.pep.ph/news/34062/claudine-barretto-may-face-charges-from-naia-ground-stewardessrsquos-family
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para mas masaya... ::)
http://www.pep.ph/news/34062/claudine-barretto-may-face-charges-from-naia-ground-stewardessrsquos-family
meron na bang nabalitang natapos na kaso na kung saan naparusahan ang isang kilalang tao o may katayuan sa lipunan na nanduro, nang-alipusta, nambastos, nagmura laban sa isang salesclerk/cashier/crew o yung mga nasa frontline ng kahit anong business?
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para mas masaya... ::)
http://www.pep.ph/news/34062/claudine-barretto-may-face-charges-from-naia-ground-stewardessrsquos-family
pwede na ba kasuhan ng human rights violation ang mga irate callers ng call centers? this happens everyday and not only once in a day. i have worked in a call center environment and have suffered verbal abuse for things that are beyond my paygrade, beyond my responsibilities and clearly beyond my capabilities. maraming tao lang ang nakikisawsaw sa isyu while others are trying to cash in. airline people, just like any service oriented business go through such berating everyday.
the tulfo brothers themselves have been known to berate and humiliate people on air. this without even due process. may dudulog na magsusumbong na kesyo ganito ganyan, yun na ang kakampihan at kung ano man yung pinapaliwanag nung "suspect" binabalewala at minumura mura lang nila.
si raymart dati pa maraming balita na sisiga siga yan at pala away. while claudine is ( was) a superstar in her own right kaya may pagka bichesa talaga.
all in all this NAIA incident had all the right ingredients for disaster. but right now nagiging boring na kaya dun naman ako susubaybay kay albie casino. hehehe
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not sure how she berated the ground crew, but if my stuff was sent off to another plane intentionally I would get mighty pissed too since that luggage was paid for, there no reason for the plane to be overloaded as the airline should have computed the average weight of the passengers plus the max weight allowable for each passenger
exactly what i was trying to point out a few pages back. ;)
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not sure how she berated the ground crew, but if my stuff was sent off to another plane intentionally I would get mighty pissed too since that luggage was paid for, there no reason for the plane to be overloaded as the airline should have computed the average weight of the passengers plus the max weight allowable for each passenger
exactly! kaya nga sila may weight limit etc. maybe may pilot o aircraft engineer dito sa pdvd na can throw some light on the subject
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baggage intentionally off-loaded WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE to passengers => outburst => picture taking => brawl
the 2 causes of the recent NAIA fiasco
1) Cebu Pacific ineptitude followed by
2) picture taking
the outburst and the brawl were the results of the causes
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not sure how she berated the ground crew, but if my stuff was sent off to another plane intentionally I would get mighty pissed too since that luggage was paid for, there no reason for the plane to be overloaded as the airline should have computed the average weight of the passengers plus the max weight allowable for each passenger
Not an engineer or pilot, but afiak, weight limit is not fixed and is dependent on multiple factors including wind speed and direction. As per CP's explanation, due to low head wind they need to reduce the weight of the aircraft so they can take off safely. Bear in mind that the runway of Caticlan is a very short one that even prop planes plying this route are only allowed to load about 70% of their full capacity. Would you rather that they unload the luggages or the number of passengers? Or better yet, just load everything and risk running out of tarmac before the plane reaches its proper take off speed.
But of course, CP is not without fault here. They failed to give notice to their passengers that some cargo had to be unloaded for safety reasons which earned them the ire of clawclaw.
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Lesson for Raymart: Control your wife (http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/-depth/05/09/12/lesson-raymart-control-your-wife)
by Marie Yuvienco
Posted at 05/09/2012 7:57 PM | Updated as of 05/10/2012 12:59 PM
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not sure how she berated the ground crew, but if my stuff was sent off to another plane intentionally I would get mighty pissed too since that luggage was paid for, there no reason for the plane to be overloaded as the airline should have computed the average weight of the passengers plus the max weight allowable for each passenger
That'd be ideal, but that does not always happen. They seem to plan for the average luggage weight, plus some margin of caution. There are cases when the maximum payload is breached whether by excess luggage, overbooked cargo, a cancelled refueling stop, etc. In such cases, they would often choose to offload luggage (instead of bumping off passengers). I had experienced this in the US and in Germany, and I'm pretty sure I don't fly as much as the Santiagos. I know people who have experienced the same with different carriers and in different locations.
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baggage intentionally off-loaded WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE to passengers => outburst => picture taking => brawl
the 2 causes of the recent NAIA fiasco
1) Cebu Pacific ineptitude followed by
2) picture taking
the outburst and the brawl were the results of the causes
labo yata. matagal na yang offloadings, pero ngayon lang siguro may nanlait sa ground crew.
the outburst is a result of the matrona's bitchiness. the fiasco is a brew of all volatile elements. ;D
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labo yata. matagal na yang offloadings, pero ngayon lang siguro may nanlait sa ground crew.
matagal ng practice iyan ? NO.
since 1960 up to these days, we traveled via various airlines here and abroad and this was the FIRST TIME i learned this off-loading thing. i conferred with more than a dozen of my colleagues and friends who are frequent travelers. they were also unaware of such off-loading thing. these are actual experiences.
in case this is a practice (for safety reason and/or other reasons) of some airlines these days, prior notice to passengers must have been done by the airline staff. this should have been clearly explained to passengers.
the outburst is a result of the matrona's bitchiness. the fiasco is a brew of all volatile elements. ;D
if there was no triggering cause, it would have been a non-excusable outburst. bitchiness is a personal judgement of non-involved audience to involved party or parties.
DENYING the existence of THE triggering cause is a personal choice ...of putting aside important and REAL part of the whole truth.
add/edit:
being blind to glaring truth is a personal choice.
not in my book.
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you mean pag sa yo mangyari magwawala ka rin?
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you mean pag sa yo mangyari magwawala ka rin?
now you are shifting the topic unto me ? ::)
here is the topic in case you missed it =-> Raymart/Claudine vs Mon Tulfo at NAIA
since you are fond of shifting topic, how frequent had you traveled via airlines here and/or abroad ? your comments should be based on some truthful facts and/or actual experiences, right ?
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im not shifting the topic. di kaya ng powers ko yan. ;D
nalalabuan lang ako sa sinabi mo na yung ineptitude ng cp ang root cause. assuming the offloading happened to other people with enough public decency para di magwala at manlait ng kapwa, walang gulo. so hindi yun ang root cause. ang nakikita kong root cause ay yung naging asal ng tao. how to react in those situations is our choice. maraming situasyon na maiiwasan ang gulo if we know how to react calmly and confidently.
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im not shifting the topic. di kaya ng powers ko yan. ;D
eto ang comment mo.. kitang kita .. o baka naman DENYING mode ka ulit ? ::)
i enlarged your words para in case malabo na ang mata mo
you mean pag sa yo mangyari magwawala ka rin?
nalalabuan lang ako sa sinabi mo na yung ineptitude ng cp ang root cause. assuming the offloading happened to other people with enough public decency para di magwala at manlait ng kapwa, walang gulo. so hindi yun ang root cause. ang nakikita kong root cause ay yung naging asal ng tao. how to react in those situations is our choice. maraming situasyon na maiiwasan ang gulo if we know how to react calmly and confidently.
here is the REAL and root cause wherein the government was compelled to act on
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,80423.120.html
bakit "nagwala" yung passenger ? wala lang ? dahil bitch siya according to you ? and since those were your words, these are the unmoved universal reference truth ?
tuwing magbibiyahe si Claudine, lagi ba siyang nagwawala sa mga airline staff ? nabantayan mo ba siya 100% of her travel ?
if you kept DENYING the truth and prefer your illogical and baseless assertions, it is your personal choice.
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Here's what's indicated in Cathay Pacific's Conditions of Carriage:
"9.6.3 Checked Baggage will whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security, or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
It seems to be the same for most carriers. Here's Ryan Air's version:
"8.6.3 Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's Lufthansa's:
"8.6.3. Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's PAL's:
"Sec. 3 (c) Checked Baggage will be carried on the same flight as the Passenger unless Carrier decides that this is impracticable, in which case Carrier will carry the Checked Baggage on Carrier's next flight on which space is available or through other carriers."
It seems like it's a standard procedure required for aviation safety. Most carriers have it in their website. It's probably upto the carrier as to how often it has to call upon that procedure, however (how tightly they book their aircrafts). It happened to me with Lufthansa and Delta Air, btw. Delta Air had the same policy under E-2 of their Passenger Rules.
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di ko makita yung mga e-tickets ko ng cebu pac, just to check kung naka fine print yung offloading thingie.
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Here's what's indicated in Cathay Pacific's Conditions of Carriage:
"9.6.3 Checked Baggage will whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security, or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
It seems to be the same for most carriers. Here's Ryan Air's version:
"8.6.3 Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's Lufthansa's:
"8.6.3. Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's PAL's:
"Sec. 3 (c) Checked Baggage will be carried on the same flight as the Passenger unless Carrier decides that this is impracticable, in which case Carrier will carry the Checked Baggage on Carrier's next flight on which space is available or through other carriers."
It seems like it's a standard procedure required for aviation safety. Most carriers have it in their website. It's probably upto the carrier as to how often it has to call upon that procedure, however (how tightly they book their aircrafts).
i was just about to mention kung merong stipulation sa mga airline carriers. you read my mind sir.
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shared by one of our PDVD members at the other thread
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/opinion/2012/05/12/cabaero-plane-passengers-complaints-221175
DOTC and concerned agencies will be looking for ways to change the practice of some airlines.
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Kung sa akin mangyari yun nangyari kina claw claw (off loading cargo thing), i will try very hard to be understanding and patient. But i can never speak for others, including my wife. ;D
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since those were your words, these are the unmoved universal reference truth
i didn't know you looked upon me that way. i'm so humbled. ;D ;D ;D
Here's what's indicated in Cathay Pacific's Conditions of Carriage:
"9.6.3 Checked Baggage will whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security, or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
It seems to be the same for most carriers. Here's Ryan Air's version:
"8.6.3 Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's Lufthansa's:
"8.6.3. Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's PAL's:
"Sec. 3 (c) Checked Baggage will be carried on the same flight as the Passenger unless Carrier decides that this is impracticable, in which case Carrier will carry the Checked Baggage on Carrier's next flight on which space is available or through other carriers."
It seems like it's a standard procedure required for aviation safety. Most carriers have it in their website. It's probably upto the carrier as to how often it has to call upon that procedure, however (how tightly they book their aircrafts). It happened to me with Lufthansa and Delta Air, btw. Delta Air had the same policy under E-2 of their Passenger Rules.
matagal na bang practice yan? ;)
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Quote from: bass_nut on Today at 01:12 PM
since those were your words, these are the unmoved universal reference truth
i didn't know you looked upon me that way. i'm so humbled. ;D ;D ;D
matagal na bang practice yan? ;)
you missed out/removed the "?" mark at the end of my statement ::)
care to answer the questions addressed to you ?
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i do, but i won't, coz that would shift the topic to me. ;D
here is the topic in case you missed it =-> Raymart/Claudine vs Mon Tulfo at NAIA
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i was just about to mention kung merong stipulation sa mga airline carriers. you read my mind sir.
The wordings for the contract of carriage for passengers and baggages for airlines are similar as they are patterned after IATA wordings. Offloading of baggage does happen and as everybody knows who has been to the Caticlan airport that the runaway is short. Therefore, one can blame the government for choosing the site and/or upgrading the airport (which SMC will do at a cost of Php500/pax as terminal fee in 2014). Then one can blame Cebu Pac for not training their ground crew on customer service. Then you can also blame Claudine for her outburst and so on and so forth. Actually the blame can be put on all the different parties involved but the proximate cause is not the offloading of the baggage.
The triggering cause is the offloading of baggage but the proximate cause of the brawl is different entirely.
The proximate cause for this incident is Claudine. Not all incidents of offloading of baggage will result in verbal abuse and being "classless" and demeaning people which have no control over the matter. One can talk, raise your voice, assert your right, but as to creating the spectacle of her outburst was the proximate cause. If she wasn't shouting and cursing all over the place mon tulfo would not have noticed the incident and would not have pulled out his camera and raymart would not have stepped in and tried to take away the camera phone to protect his wife's image.
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labo yata. matagal na yang offloadings, pero ngayon lang siguro may nanlait sa ground crew.
<snp>how frequent had you traveled via airlines here and/or abroad ? your comments should be based on some truthful facts and/or actual experiences, right ?
the outburst is a result of the matrona's bitchiness. the fiasco is a brew of all volatile elements. ;D
tuwing magbibiyahe si Claudine, lagi ba siyang nagwawala sa mga airline staff ? nabantayan mo ba siya 100% of her travel ?
simple questions to your OWN comments
here is your excuse or palusot
i do, but i won't, coz that would shift the topic to me. ;D
you can not support your words ? if yes, your comments were baseless, right ?
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temper and arrogance were the real causes imo
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matagal na bang practice yan? ;)
The offloading of baggage does happen and the passenger has all the right and recourse to ask airlines for compensation provided that it falls within the contract of carriage. Force majuere is a legal defense for the carriers and will not entitle the cargo owner / baggage owner any recourse. So in the case of claudine's group, Cebu pac should have asked her to go to their office to discuss this as she was creating a scene. That would have helped the airlines protect their image and settle the situation amicably. So one can blame cebu pac for the ineptitude / handling of the passenger complaint due to a ground crew who was not trained for a situation of Celebrity going ballistic and demanding all the VIP treatment that she so richly deserve and entitled to (however real or imagined it is).
It is laughable on DOTC's part for them to conduct investigation on the current plight of air passengers as it all can be traced to their shortcomings as well as CAAP which falls under their umbrella.
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The Department of Transportation and Communications and the Department of Trade and Industry have promised to look into consumer complaints on cancelled or delayed flights, removal of luggage without the owners’ consent, refusal of airlines to use tubes to and from planes to the discomfort of passengers, and high rebooking fees charged for those who reserved flights on promo rates.
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Cancelled / delayed flights - this is usually due to the NAIA air traffic which is caused by the runway capacity and allowing the airlines to mount more flights even when the capacity per hour has been breached. Mar Roxas who says that they will ask airlines to cut down their number of flight is just trying to appear to the public that they are doing something when in the first place it is the governing body who should dictate that the airport is beyond capacity already. It is just the government is trying to impress on everybody that they are doing something when in fact if they did their jobs in the first place this mess (not the claudine incident but the air traffic mess) would have not happened.
high rebooking fees - DTI should be the one to protect consumers rights but hey, this is the philippines.
refusal of airlines to use tubes to and from planes to the discomfort of passengers - Budget airlines as much as possible do not use tubes as they are charged for the use of these. So passengers who bitch about this should know that they are buying budget tickets. If they want to be provided all the frills, go buy tickets from a legacy carrier. (I am in no way connected to PAL).
removal of luggage without the owners’ consent - DOTC should read up on the contract of carriage. it is an internationally agreed upon contract of carrige. Oh, wait. Our country is on FAA Category 2 for not complying to international standards. woops. goes to show DOTC should bring down the hammer on CAAP or vice versa.
The government wants to make it more fun in the phillippines and increase tourist arrivals. Our main gateway is operating beyond capacity. How can one convince tourists to go to our country when the journey to the fun is "hell" and getting out of paradise and back to their home country is through "hell"?
But ultimately to be on topic. Thank you claudine. hopefully this incident will spur and shame the DOTC to do something about our airports and help with consumer rights.
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we've been to Boracay several times via Caticlan airport which has a short runway. luckily, we have not experienced off-loading of baggage.
on topic:
i've seen such outburst (i was not privy to reason or triggering cause) a few times abroad. these are usually female Caucasians. the usual protocol by the involved airline was to escort/invite the complainant passenger in an office to be communicated with by higher ranking staff of the said airline.
according to a friend at NAIA, 9 of the 11 off loaded baggage were from Claudin/Raymart's family. the outburst might have been averted or totally avoided had the airline staff explained to them their baggage route BEFORE or even during the flight. of course, an outburst is attention grabbing incident. most travelers would not like that. they would rather enjoy their vacation.
the NAIA brawl was an eye opener. i hope DOTC, other government agencies and airlines officials will be able to come up with protocols that would lessen, if not totally avert, outburst. such should improve the airlines (and airports) quality of service, thereby, benefiting passengers.
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i just asked a single question, a rhetorical one at that. and i get thrown a hundred. it's not fair! :'( :'( :'(
note to self: never quote bass_nut again. ever!
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It is laughable on DOTC's part for them to conduct investigation on the current plight of air passengers as it all can be traced to their shortcomings as well as CAAP which falls under their umbrella. <snp>
Our country is on FAA Category 2 for not complying to international standards. woops. goes to show DOTC should bring down the hammer on CAAP or vice versa.
<snp>
these are exactly the topics at another forum.
slightly off topic:
NAIA capacity at present is around 36 flights/hour. the load was more than 42 flights/hour, thereby, delayed daily scheduled flights due to cycle of backlog, according to DOTC.
the initial reaction of DOTC last week was to ask airlines to reduce their number of flights. this is totally ridiculous as such is anti-tourism and anti-business for our country.
on a parallel note, PAL is embarking on re-fleeting of their carriers to ALL Boeing airplanes in the next few years. international carriers are also increasing their number of flights to and from NAIA. such would increase demand for our airports.
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tuwing magbibiyahe si Claudine, lagi ba siyang nagwawala sa mga airline staff?
from this link (http://www.cab.gov.ph/news/142-airline-agents-say-claudine-barretto-cussed-them)
Strike 3 for Barretto
NAIA insiders, including two reporters covering the airport beat, referred to Sunday's incident as ''Strike 3'' for Barretto.
They claimed, among other things, that the actress “had been involved in three similar incidents during the past two or three years.”
''One time, she made a scene after she was refused boarding on a domestic flight because she came late. After she made some calls, she was allowed to board the plane. She was involved in a similar incident, also on a domestic flight,'' said a NAIA source.
Another source said the actress had the ''nasty habit of throwing her weight around when she doesn’t get what she wants, like getting an upgrade on international flights.''
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The offloading of baggage does happen and the passenger has all the right and recourse to ask airlines for compensation provided that it falls within the contract of carriage. Force majuere is a legal defense for the carriers and will not entitle the cargo owner / baggage owner any recourse. So in the case of claudine's group, Cebu pac should have asked her to go to their office to discuss this as she was creating a scene. That would have helped the airlines protect their image and settle the situation amicably. So one can blame cebu pac for the ineptitude / handling of the passenger complaint due to a ground crew who was not trained for a situation of Celebrity going ballistic and demanding all the VIP treatment that she so richly deserve and entitled to (however real or imagined it is).
It is laughable on DOTC's part for them to conduct investigation on the current plight of air passengers as it all can be traced to their shortcomings as well as CAAP which falls under their umbrella.
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The Department of Transportation and Communications and the Department of Trade and Industry have promised to look into consumer complaints on cancelled or delayed flights, removal of luggage without the owners’ consent, refusal of airlines to use tubes to and from planes to the discomfort of passengers, and high rebooking fees charged for those who reserved flights on promo rates.
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Cancelled / delayed flights - this is usually due to the NAIA air traffic which is caused by the runway capacity and allowing the airlines to mount more flights even when the capacity per hour has been breached. Mar Roxas who says that they will ask airlines to cut down their number of flight is just trying to appear to the public that they are doing something when in the first place it is the governing body who should dictate that the airport is beyond capacity already. It is just the government is trying to impress on everybody that they are doing something when in fact if they did their jobs in the first place this mess (not the claudine incident but the air traffic mess) would have not happened.
high rebooking fees - DTI should be the one to protect consumers rights but hey, this is the philippines.
refusal of airlines to use tubes to and from planes to the discomfort of passengers - Budget airlines as much as possible do not use tubes as they are charged for the use of these. So passengers who bitch about this should know that they are buying budget tickets. If they want to be provided all the frills, go buy tickets from a legacy carrier. (I am in no way connected to PAL).
removal of luggage without the owners’ consent - DOTC should read up on the contract of carriage. it is an internationally agreed upon contract of carrige. Oh, wait. Our country is on FAA Category 2 for not complying to international standards. woops. goes to show DOTC should bring down the hammer on CAAP or vice versa.
The government wants to make it more fun in the phillippines and increase tourist arrivals. Our main gateway is operating beyond capacity. How can one convince tourists to go to our country when the journey to the fun is "hell" and getting out of paradise and back to their home country is through "hell"?
But ultimately to be on topic. Thank you claudine. hopefully this incident will spur and shame the DOTC to do something about our airports and help with consumer rights.
thanks for clearing that up. i thing it's high time that pinoys learn their rights and the extent of it. and i would assume that ground crew should be trained to pacify irate customers because they are frontliners. take the customers complaint, log them, escalate it to your supervisors and do your best to appease the angry customers. di naman maiiwasan na may magagalit talagang customer, it's part of being human
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i just asked a single question, a rhetorical one at that. and i get thrown a hundred. it's not fair! :'( :'( :'(
note to self: never quote bass_nut again. ever!
this is a discussion board. my participation in here is 1) to learn from the recent incident as my family, friends and myself might get affected unfavorably 2) to share past experiences as truthful as possibly, in hope that such might help others as well.
your chosen words were quite wayward to say the least. the triggering cause to the shameful brawl incident was so clear.
on topic:
ideally, airlines (and airport personnel) should re-train their staff regarding COMMUNICATIONS SKILL. they should position the capable ones to receive complaints of passengers. mas malala pa ang outburst ng mga foreigners, per my own observation.
again, this is an eye opener incident in hopes for an FAA Category 1 status soon, a win win scenario for all parties concerned specially the travelers/passengers. as sir questforthegoodlife put it better "Thank You Claudine"
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you mean pag sa yo mangyari magwawala ka rin?
kung sa akin nangyari yun magwawala din ako, up to what extent di ko alam,
sa trabaho ko ilang beses na akong nasigawan at nasabihang incompetent, may times pa nga na pinatatanggal na ako, may isang beses sinigawan ako at sinabihang simpleng bagay di ko magawan ng paraan kase yung isang boss na traffic papasok sa office, tumawag sa akin ng 11 pm at pinagalitan ako bakit daw traffic sa harap ng building di ko nagawan ng paraan, isang beses naman sinigawsigawan ako ng babeng boss 12 ng madaling araw dahil lang yung laptop sa meeting di ma project sa projector ng board room namin, one time halos gibain ng babaeng boss yung main door ng office dahil sa galit sinita kase sya ng guard at ininspeksyon yung bag nya bago pumasok, sa galit nya tinanong nya guard di mo ba ako kilala sabi ng guard sorry mam but im just new here nevertheless im just doing our usual protocol of inspecting the bags before allowing employees to come in, ayun tinawagan ako at sinigaw sigawan ginagawa ko daw fortress yung office at bakit kailangan pa daw mag paalam sa akin bago makapasok
my point is the same point warmaster is saying, ang dami lang nakikisawsaw dito na kesyo magsampa ng kaso sa human rights,i have had several beyond humane experience with co employees berating me pero sa trabahong pinasok ko, i just need to be ready with that, much is expected of me so im also expecting much from service oriented people, pag mabagal ang kahera sa fastfood nag complaint ako, pag, pag masungit ang sales lady sa dept store nag complaint ako, one time nag CR ako sa megamall nabasa ng flash ng urinla yung barong ko, nakita ng janitor yung nangyari, pinagtawanan ako at di man lang nilapitan, dumiretso ako sa management ng megamall at nag complaint.
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from this link (http://www.cab.gov.ph/news/142-airline-agents-say-claudine-barretto-cussed-them)
so there were 3 incidents ? out of how many travel she took ? without triggering cause(s), these are non-acceptable. my opinion only.
with regards the recent NAIA brawl, there was a triggering cause. the complainant should have been handled properly so as to minimize unfavorable effect to the airline involved. a friend at NAIA also pointed the airline's failure to handle her properly. Cebu Pacific (and other airlines) must learn this.
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so there were 3 incidents ? out of how many travel she took ? without triggering cause(s), these are non-acceptable. my opinion only.
with regards the recent NAIA brawl, there was a triggering cause. the complainant should have been handled properly so as to minimize unfavorable effect to the airline involved. a friend at NAIA also pointed the airline's failure to handle her properly. Cebu Pacific (and other airlines) must learn this.
Is it also possible na hindi din nagkaroon chance yun emplpoyees to handle it properly? I mean yun kay claw claw. hindi yun awatan ng away.
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Is it also possible na hindi din nagkaroon chance yun emplpoyees to handle it properly? I mean yun kay claw claw. hindi yun awatan ng away.
We can only speculate but from the looks on the video, the "notorious" reputation of claudine i guess the employees were unable to handle it properly. Especially once she was shouting that the employee/s call Lance (to connote that she knew the president personally) and from what I read and this is all conjecture was threatening the ground employee to be fired from her job and wanted the manager of the caticlan operation removed as well.
There's going "ballistic" and then there's going "nuclear" which i believe claudine was in that situation. Also, the point of 9 out of 11 baggage being offloaded, i think statistically that was just bad luck they were a big group. Three groups of families / relatives / fried of claudine were on that flight so probably they comprised 80-90% of the flight. So definitely BINGO sila.
I think it's harder to say to passengers that their luggage will be offloaded before hand. That's a recipe for disaster here in the Philippines where guns, goons and gold reign. How can one justify that their luggage is chosen to be offloaded than compared to another passenger? In this case, It's better to ask forgiveness than ask for permission.
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Here's what's indicated in Cathay Pacific's Conditions of Carriage:
"9.6.3 Checked Baggage will whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security, or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
It seems to be the same for most carriers. Here's Ryan Air's version:
"8.6.3 Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's Lufthansa's:
"8.6.3. Checked Baggage will, whenever possible, be carried on the same aircraft as you, unless we decide for safety, security or operational reasons to carry it on an alternative flight. If your Checked Baggage is carried on a subsequent flight we will deliver it to you, unless applicable law requires you to be present for customs clearance."
Here's PAL's:
"Sec. 3 (c) Checked Baggage will be carried on the same flight as the Passenger unless Carrier decides that this is impracticable, in which case Carrier will carry the Checked Baggage on Carrier's next flight on which space is available or through other carriers."
It seems like it's a standard procedure required for aviation safety. Most carriers have it in their website. It's probably upto the carrier as to how often it has to call upon that procedure, however (how tightly they book their aircrafts). It happened to me with Lufthansa and Delta Air, btw. Delta Air had the same policy under E-2 of their Passenger Rules.
Thanks for digging this up. This is exactly what I thought. The fine print in the sale of airline tickets allows the airline companies to offload luggage, even without advising the concerned passengers.
It is the legal right of the airlines. Kung mangyari sa iyo, sorry ka na lang. If you make noise, the airline company may provide you some compensation but legally, that's not even required. Personally, I would complain (in a reasonable manner) just so that I receive some compensation (sayang naman). ;D
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Just saw Mon Tulfo's taped interview sa The Buzz. To be fair to the man, he is very articulate and eloquent when interviewed ha.... I mean, compared to Raymart. Hehe.
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_b0iMmA-VtM/T6-oQ-6MqmI/AAAAAAAAC8I/7G5O7PCEvNc/s1600/keep.jpg)
Now it can be revealed! Gimik lang pala lahat ito para sa bagong reality show!!
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Is it also possible na hindi din nagkaroon chance yun emplpoyees to handle it properly? I mean yun kay claw claw. hindi yun awatan ng away.
posible rin naman na the ground crew were trying their best to handle the situation UNTIL mon tulfo was caught taking pictures/videos. ;) think about it, hihinahon din naman yang si claudine in the long run after bigyan ng just compensation (round trip tickets, etc). perhaps tulfo should have been more discreet in taking the pictures para hindi na sana nag escalate into a full on brawl yung situation
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Is it also possible na hindi din nagkaroon chance yun emplpoyees to handle it properly? I mean yun kay claw claw. hindi yun awatan ng away.
i can not confirm nor deny that, Master Nelson as the video footage apparently captured only part of the brawl and not the whole sequence of event [from arrival to waiting for the baggage at the carousel to inquiry of no-show baggage to the outburst to photo shooting to the brawl portion].
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the fine prints of the airlines' tickets would point out to their option to off load baggage for valid/acceptable reason(s). however, there are instances wherein such delay (due to off loaded baggage) would cause a huge disadvantage for passenger(s) in a time constrained situation (not this Claudine/Raymart:Tulfo case).
example:
a passenger from Boracay (or elsewhere) was called/requested to immediately travel for emergency reason by a relative or his/her boss in another country. passenger was able to book the whole trip from point of origin to final port of entry. a gap between ETA of the first flight and the connecting flight was 6 hours which is still a feasible gap to make it to his/her connecting flight.
unfortunately, his/her baggage was off loaded (for valid reason) and was transferred to next flight which was after 12 hours. there are airlines that have only one or two flights a day. in this situation, there would be a very high probability that the passenger will 1) miss his/her connecting flight or 2) travel without his/her baggage or 3) re-book on another flight.
how would this be resolved ? how would the 12+ hours delayed baggage reach the final point of entry ? who would shoulder the unexpected expenses in case of re-booking ? these are some of the pertinent questions for travelers like me and my family.
airlines would not wish to incur additional expenses. passengers would not want delayed flight, delayed arrival of baggage or miss their connecting flight.
again, the recent incident was an eye opener for amendments of the airlines' fine prints.
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Given that ths is clawclaw's fourth infraction against the airline, I'm quite surprised that she still allowed to fly with the airline. Oh wait, she got connections that helped her out during these outbreaks of hers. Then this is for us regular citizens, you might want to reconsider doing a "claudine" next time this happens to any of us. Details below:
Clause 11 - Refusal of Carriage and Limitations
11.1 Right to Refuse Carriage
11.1.2 The Airline may likewise refuse the Passenger or his Baggage carriage if any one or more of the following have occurred on a previous flight or is likely to occur as reasonably determined by the Airline:
Security or Safety Risk
d. the Passenger has committed misconduct at the departure terminal or on board a previous flight, including physical or verbal abuse of Airline staff, agents or representatives or other passengers or persons, and the Airline reasonably believes that the conduct may be repeated;
http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/terms-and-conditions.html
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i can not confirm nor deny that, Master Nelson as the video footage apparently captured only part of the brawl and not the whole sequence of event [from arrival to waiting for the baggage at the carousel to inquiry of no-show baggage to the outburst to photo shooting to the brawl portion].
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the fine prints of the airlines' tickets would point out to their option to off load baggage for valid/acceptable reason(s). however, there are instances wherein such delay (due to off loaded baggage) would cause a huge disadvantage for passenger(s) in a time constrained situation (not this Claudine/Raymart:Tulfo case).
example:
a passenger from Boracay (or elsewhere) was called/requested to immediately travel for emergency reason by a relative or his/her boss in another country. passenger was able to book the whole trip from point of origin to final port of entry. a gap between ETA of the first flight and the connecting flight was 6 hours which is still a feasible gap to make it to his/her connecting flight.
unfortunately, his/her baggage was off loaded (for valid reason) and was transferred to next flight which was after 12 hours. there are airlines that have only one or two flights a day. in this situation, there would be a very high probability that the passenger will 1) miss his/her connecting flight or 2) travel without his/her baggage or 3) re-book on another flight.
how would this be resolved ? how would the 12+ hours delayed baggage reach the final point of entry ? who would shoulder the unexpected expenses in case of re-booking ? these are some of the pertinent questions for travelers like me and my family.
airlines would not wish to incur additional expenses. passengers would not want delayed flight, delayed arrival of baggage or miss their connecting flight.
again, the recent incident was an eye opener for amendments of the airlines' fine prints.
Not sure if this answers your question, but:
8.5 Flight Connections
8.5.1 The Airline is strictly a point-to-point carrier and is not responsible for any connecting flight of the Passenger or for any misconnection arising from any delay or cancellation of the scheduled flight.
http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/terms-and-conditions.html
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posible rin naman na the ground crew were trying their best to handle the situation UNTIL mon tulfo was caught taking pictures/videos. ;) think about it, hihinahon din naman yang si claudine in the long run after bigyan ng just compensation (round trip tickets, etc). perhaps tulfo should have been more discreet in taking the pictures para hindi na sana nag escalate into a full on brawl yung situation
Yes, tulfo should have been more discreet - but for me, his presence should have signalled Claudine to stop but she never did. I believe that any citizen in fact can record any incident happening in public when their decision to take the picture or video is premised on the belief that a crime or a wrong doing is being committed.
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Given that ths is clawclaw's fourth infraction against the airline, I'm quite surprised that she still allowed to fly with the airline. Oh wait, she got connections that helped her out during these outbreaks of hers. Then this is for us regular citizens, you might want to reconsider doing a "claudine" next time this happens to any of us. Details below:
http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/terms-and-conditions.html
if she already had three unpleasant experiences with the airline before, why continue using that airline? ???
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Even MILF joins ‘Thrilla in NAIA’
http://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/the-inbox/even-milf-joins-thrilla-naia-190013528.html
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Not sure if this answers your question, but:
http://www.cebupacificair.com/aboutus/terms-and-conditions.html
my point exactly.
if this off loading will be a regular occurrence, it might be very disadvantageous to some passengers like ones who are catching up with another flight.
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The weight and balance issue is applicable on long haul flights, meaning due to wind direction causing the flight to have a longer flight plan resulting to lesser fuel and passenger (together with passenger bags and cargo). Bear in mind that under the contract of carriage, the passenger and their bags must travel together, that is one of the core commitment by the airlines to its clients. There are 2 kinds of baggage separation, involuntary and voluntary. Involuntary are those cases wherein passenger had a short connection or has been rerouted resulting to bags not being transferred however this bags may or may not not be loaded since this is not the passengers fault and voluntary, passengers were earlier advised that due to some circumstances (they opted to move to an earlier flight) their bags will be separated with them and will not also be loaded. In both cases these passengers are suppose to be advised prior, during flight or upon deplaning and not after all the bags came out of the conveyor belt and having to wait for an hour waiting for nothing. CP's flight out of Caticlan were delayed for 3hrs,they have ample time to advise those affected passengers before the flight took off.
Now if the case is short runway, then CP do not have any reason to have a full flight. Does this mean that this happens everyday? There will be more security issues if the bags are travelling without a passenger, in bigger airlines this is called positive bag match. Remember the PanAm disaster wherein the passenger checked in a bag but did not board the flight?.. The plane later blew up 30,000 feet inflight.
If we will do the math, pax paid 5k but his 2pcs bags were left behind, as CP's standard, compensate him with 1k per bag so CP still earns 3k....kita pa rin sila. Delayed bags does happen, its a regular thing. As i previoulsly mentioned, all passengers must be treated equal however there will be times that you have to bend the rules, as for this case, if i see the names of barretto and santiago, i might have to think twice in offloading these bags due to their status, unless they checked in late or sa caticlan pa lang nambwisit na at napag tripan ng staff which does happen, unfortunately. Im saying this because this happened locally so im sure kilala nila yung name but in the US, who cares, there was a time wherein an ambassador who visited Manila arrived without his bag, its a late night flight so he gave a speech at malacanang the next morning still wearing what he was wearing that night.
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my point exactly.
if this off loading will be a regular occurrence, it might be very disadvantageous to some passengers like ones who are catching up with another flight.
Afaik, if you booked the same airline for the connecting flights, they will forward the baggage to your final destination. The luggage tag will allow the carrier to find the final destination.
In stops when your baggage is automatically forwarded by the carrier, it normally is not a problem (you wouldn't even know that your luggage was delayed somewhere until you get to your destination). However, in stops where you have to claim your luggage before checking into a connecting flight, I think it's best to file the luggage claim during that stop.
Finally, even if you didn't book the same airline for the connecting flight, I would think that they'd accommodate shipping to make up for the inconvenience (even if they are not legally required to) if they can. Despite this, I would still book the same airline as much as possible as it's generally cheaper and it gives you that peace of mind.
I think carriers are trying to strike a balance between customer satisfaction, revenues and cost here. They try their best to book as much passengers and cargo as possible without ending up with too much cost in terms of delayed baggage deliveries/compensation and lost customers.
Thanks for digging this up. This is exactly what I thought. The fine print in the sale of airline tickets allows the airline companies to offload luggage, even without advising the concerned passengers.
It is the legal right of the airlines. Kung mangyari sa iyo, sorry ka na lang. If you make noise, the airline company may provide you some compensation but legally, that's not even required. Personally, I would complain (in a reasonable manner) just so that I receive some compensation (sayang naman). ;D
You're welcome, sir Mark. It's within reason naman talaga for the passenger to complain, since na-inconvenience siya. :)
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Yes, tulfo should have been more discreet - but for me, his presence should have signalled Claudine to stop but she never did. I believe that any citizen in fact can record any incident happening in public when their decision to take the picture or video is premised on the belief that a crime or a wrong doing is being committed.
rightly so. but again my point is you do this at your own risk. try taking a video of someone running amuck or while a crime is being comitted and you get caught doing so, i can just imagine what will happen to you if that happens. yes as citizens, it is our responsibility to report a misdeed happening but we should be careful about it and not get ourselves into harms way (i.e. tulfo). you can't expect to take evidence of some wrong doing, get caught documenting it and not at least be inconvenienced by it, worse you get hurt or killed
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rightly so. but again my point is you do this at your own risk. try taking a video of someone running amuck or while a crime is being comitted and you get caught doing so, i can just imagine what will happen to you if that happens. yes as citizens, it is our responsibility to report a misdeed happening but we should be careful about it and not get ourselves into harms way (i.e. tulfo). you can't expect to take evidence of some wrong doing, get caught documenting it and not at least be inconvenienced by it, worse you get hurt or killed
I certainly agree - but that is the risk of the trade. Now, to take photos or video clips or not, one should weight-in things. Tulfo took that risk. Nabugbog siya, pero at least lalo siyang naging sikat na journalist ngayon because the sympathy of the people is with him.Pwede na siguro siyang kumandidato for Senator.. ;D
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The Tulfo bros are geniuses. They knew going on air with their threats would cost them, but they are no fools. They made Raymart $hit his pants and they increased their popularity. Who wouldn't be interested in watching them act like thugs on air? Bad news is good news. Well played, Tulfos.
Now, personally, I think it's idiotic to blame Cebu Pacific for the fisticuffs. Sure, they further ruined their reputation because of the baggage thing, but come on! They didn't tell Tulfo to take pictures or make punches part of the flying experience.
I'd credit all this to use of illegal drugs, but the involved parties might just refute that and claim all the drugs were on the unforwarded baggages. ;D
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I'd credit all this to use of illegal drugs, but the involved parties might just refute that and claim all the drugs were on the unforwarded baggages. ;D
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Pang Showbiz Tsimis thread to ah! Similar to the alleged Resorts world sightings of the actress with a politician from the north.
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The Tulfo bros are geniuses. They knew going on air with their threats would cost them, but they are no fools. They made Raymart $hit his pants and they increased their popularity. Who wouldn't be interested in watching them act like thugs on air? Bad news is good news. Well played, Tulfos.
Now, personally, I think it's idiotic to blame Cebu Pacific for the fisticuffs. Sure, they further ruined their reputation because of the baggage thing, but come on! They didn't tell Tulfo to take pictures or make punches part of the flying experience.
I'd credit all this to use of illegal drugs, but the involved parties might just refute that and claim all the drugs were on the unforwarded baggages. ;D
lagot ka! ;D ;D ;D that's what i pointed out and look what it got me into. ;) whatever happens, don't do a raymart ha? ;D
wrt this offloading problem, is there a way to ensure that your baggage won't get offloaded? with an extra charge perhaps? i don't think the airline industry would amend their baggage policies just because of this incident, or for all the claudines in the world who couldn't part with their stuff for a few hours.
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Well, it is silly to blame Cebu Pacific for the fight. As if delays, lost or open baggages are new to us. $hit like that happen all over the world and it's not uncommon for passengers to sick their inner biyatches on those responsible. It's just more fun in the Philippines. ;D Whatever happened to asking yourself what would Jesus do in times like that? Right, Christians?
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Well, it is silly to blame Cebu Pacific for the fight. As if delays, lost or open baggages are new to us. $hit like that happen all over the world and it's not uncommon for passengers to sick their inner biyatches on those responsible. It's just more fun in the Philippines. ;D Whatever happened to asking yourself what would Jesus do in times like that? Right, Christians?
This.
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exactly!
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$hit like that happen all over the world and it's not uncommon for passengers to sick their inner biyatches on those responsible.
you couldn't have said it any better. ;) :)
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Well, it is silly to blame Cebu Pacific for the fight. As if delays, lost or open baggages are new to us. $hit like that happen all over the world and it's not uncommon for passengers to sick their inner biyatches on those responsible. It's just more fun in the Philippines. ;D Whatever happened to asking yourself what would Jesus do in times like that? Right, Christians?
Agree with you 100%, bro. Even though I already knew the answer, I still asked a few pages back what the real issue here is.
$hit happens all the time. Are you going to blame road rage on traffic gridlock? A hissy fit when your food doesn't arrive quickly due to high volume of orders? A public meltdown when your baggage doesn't arrive with you from the plane?
Unlike unforeseen circumstances, people have the ability to choose how they react to a given situation. There are always a couple of options: one is to react calmy and with logic; another is to go ballistic and make the situation worse for you and everyone else.
CP as an airline sucks. It has been established numerous times as if no one still gets it. Yes, we are all smart enough to understand that without having to go into the fine print repeatedly over and over and over again.
In this specific case, the cause is irrelevant. A situation where people have control of the resulting effect is what really matters. Because that's what we're talking about here, right? A meltdown and a beatdown.
CP being negligent is a given. Claw Claw and friends actively chose to go bat$hit crazy.
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Then just REPORT your lost baggage, get your thousands of pesos as compensation which you can spend on a very good dinner or lunch or pamigay sa mga nangangailangan na alalays or drivers, then have your lost luggage delivered kung saan nyo gusto - go home LIGHT and enjoy. I dont expect Cebu Pacific to give anything else but I know BA, Air France and JAL have a cutey one-day kit pa - meron male and female versions. hehehe. Ang point is hingin nyo ng maayos whatever compensation you are entitled to dahil sigurado naman may ibibigay kahit papaano.
Di ba it's a Lost Luggage Report Desk and not a Lost Luggage Complain Desk?
BTW, basahin nyo naman kasi maigi yung mga nakasulat sa ticket nyo kapag meron free time during the flight. hehehe. May possibility din na totally lost yung bagahe or badly damaged so know how much you can claim na max.
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wrt this offloading problem, is there a way to ensure that your baggage won't get offloaded? with an extra charge perhaps? i don't think the airline industry would amend their baggage policies just because of this incident, or for all the claudines in the world who couldn't part with their stuff for a few hours.
I don't think there is an assurance, but your luggage can get "priority handling" by putting on priority tags if you fly first or business class for most carriers. This is normally only for international flights, however.
Priority handled baggage gets off the plane first upon reaching the destination (if done properly), and that won't be possible if it was offloaded from the plane.
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I think over yung ginawa ni CB. lalo na yung pambubugbog nila. Uncalled for and sobrang grabe yung ginawa nila. Kaya lang, since si Mon Tulfo naman yung nabugbog, eh okay lang pala yung ginawa nila ;D.
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I don't think there is an assurance, but your luggage can get "priority handling" by putting on priority tags if you fly first or business class for most carriers. This is normally only for international flights, however.
did this when i went to CDO last month. i politely asked them if i can hand carry my bag which is about 10 kilos in weight. they asked about the content, i just said it is not about what's inside the bag. then i told them my experience several years ago when i waited for my checked in luggage for hours. still was not able to hand carry it, but they did however placed on priority handling which they called LRT (i think). :D
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The Untouchables (http://www.rappler.com/thought-leaders/5331-the-untouchables#.T7Fc1yquTqA.facebook)
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Jessica Zafra: How Not To Be In An Airport Altercation
http://www.interaksyon.com/article/31489/jessica-zafra-how-not-to-be-in-an-airport-altercation
This is a compendium of tips that used to fall under "common sense", but that was back when "common sense" wasn't ironic.
1. Airlines suck, so be prepared.
1.1. Do people still say "suck"? In this case we mean it literally. They suck up your money and blow out bad service, confident in the knowledge that at some point you will have no choice but to fly with them again.
1.2. Airlines suck everywhere, not just in the Philippines. At least the food on our airlines tastes like food. If they serve food at all.
1.2.1. When you complain about budget airlines screwing up, people shrug and say, "Well, you get what you paid for." But expensive airlines also screw up. What's their excuse?
1.2.2. If you do not want to endure the cramped conditions and perfunctory service in cattle class, fly business or first class. Flying business class doesn't guarantee good service either, but the staff is prepared to deal with your complaints. Or to ply you with liquor until you shut up. By paying twice the price of economy, you become a valued customer they don't want to offend.
1.2.2.1. Yes, life sucks. People are not judged on merit but according to how much money they have.
1.2.2.2. Correction: On how much money they seem to have. Humanity is not only unfair but shallow.
1.2.2.3. Even if the in-flight service is good, you still have to contend with the ground staff at the airport.
1.2.2.3.1. It's popular to beat up on NAIA (as opposed to getting beaten up at NAIA) but it is not the worst airport on earth. For sheer awfulness visit Charles De Gaulle in Paris (Impressive architecture will not ensure that you and your luggage land at the same time, and well-designed bathrooms don't clean themselves) and many American airports. Places that are supposed to be the height of civilization. So what's their excuse?
1.3. There are a few ways to ensure excellent service when you fly.
1.3.1. Be a genius billionaire playboy philanthropist and have your own jet. Or construct your own armored exo-suit so you can fly whenever you want.
1.3.2. Be the crown prince of Asgard and go around looking like the super-muscled vocalist of a heavy metal hair band. To fly, just swing your hammer.
1.3.3. Expose yourself to massive doses of gamma radiation, unleashing the giant green rage monster within you. You won't be able to fly, but you can leap vast distances.
1.3.4. Their D.C. Comics equivalents. (Which, with the exception of Batman, haven't been doing working on the big screen.)
1.3.5. In short, none.
1.4. Minimize the amount of aggravation the airline can cause you.
1.4.1. Delayed or lost luggage is a frequent problem. If you can manage it, travel light and bring only cabin baggage. Yes, hand-carry everything.
1.4.2. How much luggage do you need to go to the beach anyway?
1.4.3. Put your valuables and your medication in your cabin baggage. Duh.
1.4.4. If you have a foul temper or anger management issues, make like Dr. Banner and remove yourself from the source of aggravation. Let someone else talk to the ground staff.
2. If you are taking photos or video of famous people making a public spectacle of themselves, be discreet.
2.1. You may have good reason to photograph them, but if they spot you they will get even more pissed off than they already are.
2.1.1. If you're using your phone, pretend to be shooting someone else, or surfing the net, or reading a long text message. Even if you are fearless. The intention is to keep the peace.
2.1.2. However, if you are offended at the way celebrities maltreat and verbally assault the common people, and you do not fear physical confrontation, go ahead and wade into the fray. Tell the celebrities what asses they are being. It would help if you've had martial arts training. The direct approach plays better than the paparazzi approach.
2.1.2.1. To celebrities, people who take their picture are automatically fans or paparazzi scum. They will scream "invasion of privacy", forgetting that their celebrity was built on aforementioned fans and paparazzi.
2.1.2.2. Pity the famous people who are getting more attention for their bad behavior than for any of their recent work.
2.2. If you have a reputation as a fearless crusader for justice to maintain, you probably have to get involved. To avoid confusion as to your motives, wear a cape embroidered with your superhero logo.
3. What does it mean when a celebrity fistfight at the airport is the big news of the day?
3.1. No news is good news, so is the country doing all right?
3.2. Naah, artista news trumps territorial disputes any time.
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http://www.pinoyparazzi.com/sa-pag-aming-break-na-sila-ni-angelica-panganiban-derek-ramsay-nakaka-turn-off/
ANG LAKAS ng impact ng kuwento ni Mareng Carmina Villarroel sa Showbiz Inside Report nu’ng Sabado. Tinatalakay kasi ng mga hosts ang naganap na engkuwentro sa pagitan nina Claudine-Raymart Santiago at Mon Tulfo.
Naitsika ni Carmina ‘yung casual na usap nila ng dyowang si Zoren Legaspi. “Hon, ‘pag ako ba ang nandu’n sa sitwasyon ni Claudine, ano’ng gagawin mo?”
“Sagot ba naman ni Zoren, ‘Iiwan kita. Nakakahiya ka, nag-iiskandalo ka!”
Pero ang nakakatuwa, hindi inaway ni Mina si Zoren. Hypothetical lang naman ‘yon, eh. At least, sinabihan na si Mina para hindi niya ito gawin in the future. Meron na siyang idea.
O, eh ‘di ‘pag nasa parehong sitwasyon si Mina at nandu’n si Zoren, malamang isipin ni Mina ang deklarasyon ni Zoren, kaya kakausapin niya nang mahinahon ‘yung ground stewardess, dahil iisipin niya agad na hindi niya ilalagay sa kahihiyan ang pamilya niya.
At kung mahinahon namang makikipag-usap si Mina, malamang, walang kumuha ng video o picture.
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http://www.pinoyparazzi.com/sa-pag-aming-break-na-sila-ni-angelica-panganiban-derek-ramsay-nakaka-turn-off/
ANG LAKAS ng impact ng kuwento ni Mareng Carmina Villarroel sa Showbiz Inside Report nu’ng Sabado. Tinatalakay kasi ng mga hosts ang naganap na engkuwentro sa pagitan nina Claudine-Raymart Santiago at Mon Tulfo.
Naitsika ni Carmina ‘yung casual na usap nila ng dyowang si Zoren Legaspi. “Hon, ‘pag ako ba ang nandu’n sa sitwasyon ni Claudine, ano’ng gagawin mo?”
“Sagot ba naman ni Zoren, ‘Iiwan kita. Nakakahiya ka, nag-iiskandalo ka!”
Pero ang nakakatuwa, hindi inaway ni Mina si Zoren. Hypothetical lang naman ‘yon, eh. At least, sinabihan na si Mina para hindi niya ito gawin in the future. Meron na siyang idea.
O, eh ‘di ‘pag nasa parehong sitwasyon si Mina at nandu’n si Zoren, malamang isipin ni Mina ang deklarasyon ni Zoren, kaya kakausapin niya nang mahinahon ‘yung ground stewardess, dahil iisipin niya agad na hindi niya ilalagay sa kahihiyan ang pamilya niya.
At kung mahinahon namang makikipag-usap si Mina, malamang, walang kumuha ng video o picture.
mas mabait naman talaga si carmina kesa kay claudine sa totoong buhay
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mas mabait naman talaga si carmina kesa kay claudine sa totoong buhay
Oo, nakausap ko na yan ng personal nung bumisita sya sa office namin. Mapagkumbaba tapos tawa lang ng tawa.
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Di ko ma-gets dito kung bakit gabriela supported Claw claw. Wala naman akong nakitang footage na "inapi" or intentionally sinaktan si Claw claw. As per video, it's possible na accidentally nasipa ni MT kasi kinukuyog siya nun naka pink na guy and claw claw, nakasampa ata si Raymart kay MT.
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Di ko ma-gets dito kung bakit gabriela supported Claw claw. Wala naman akong nakitang footage na "inapi" or intentionally sinaktan si Claw claw. As per video, it's possible na accidentally nasipa ni MT kasi kinukuyog siya nun naka pink na guy and claw claw, nakasampa ata si Raymart kay MT.
Siguro dahil sa ang sinasabing pagsipa at pagtulak kay Claudine ay nangyari daw bago pa man ng mga kaganapang nakunan sa video. Yan ang claim ng side nina Claudine at Raymart. Ang claim naman ni Tulfo ay maaari niyang nasipa si Claudine dahil nga napagtulungan na siya at nagpumiglas. Pero binawi niya ito nung lumabas nga yung video at malaman na di pala gumagana yung cctv. Sinabi niya na di niya sinaktan si Claudine.
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Siguro dahil sa ang sinasabing pagsipa at pagtulak kay Claudine ay nangyari daw bago pa man ng mga kaganapang nakunan sa video. Yan ang claim ng side nina Claudine at Raymart. Ang claim naman ni Tulfo ay maaari niyang nasipa si Claudine dahil nga napagtulungan na siya at nagpumiglas. Pero binawi niya ito nung lumabas nga yung video at malaman na di pala gumagana yung cctv. Sinabi niya na di niya sinaktan si Claudine.
Got it. Thanks.
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Yung mga Senior Citizens Group kakampi ni Tulfo. Kakasuhan rin daw yata nila sina Raymart dahil sa pambugbog nila sa matanda. ;D
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Di ko ma-gets dito kung bakit gabriela supported Claw claw. Wala naman akong nakitang footage na "inapi" or intentionally sinaktan si Claw claw. As per video, it's possible na accidentally nasipa ni MT kasi kinukuyog siya nun naka pink na guy and claw claw, nakasampa ata si Raymart kay MT.
Seriously, all that these Gabriela members do is make a mockery of their supposed advocacy (female empowerment/gender equality). Just because one party has the ovaries doesn't automatically make her the aggrieved party in a conflict with somebody from the opposite sex. <*cough*> Nicole subic rape case I was gang raped by 4 no just 1 wait I don't remember anymore oh I'm off to the US for permanent residency okay bye! <*cough*>
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Nakipagbati na si mareng Claudine sa "diumanong" minura sa airport. Itinanggi din ng 2 CebuPac crew na minura daw sila. Pati magulang wala naman daw sinabing maghahabla ng kaso.
Ayan, nagka aregluhan na. Si Fotul na lang :P
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Nakipagbati na si mareng Claudine sa "diumanong" minura sa airport. Itinanggi din ng 2 CebuPac crew na minura daw sila. Pati magulang wala naman daw sinabing maghahabla ng kaso.
Ayan, nagka aregluhan na. Si Fotul na lang :P
Natatawa nga ako kanina habang nanonood ng news.
May hugging session pa sila.
Si claw claw parang napakabait...
Tinanong ko nga wife ko..., "Magkano kaya biniyad sa mga to?" ;D
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Natatawa nga ako kanina habang nanonood ng news.
May hugging session pa sila.
Si claw claw parang napakabait...
Tinanong ko nga wife ko..., "Magkano kaya biniyad sa mga to?" ;D
oh well, lahat ng tao may presyo bro louie .. ;)
nakakainis lang kasi lusot nanaman. >:(
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Ayan, nagka aregluhan na. Si Fotul na lang :P
Malamang ok na din yung dalawang parties na yan, ayaw na lang magsalita. Papabayaan na lang nilang mawala ang focus sa issue. Let it die a natural death, kumbaga. :P
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oh well, lahat ng tao may presyo bro louie .. ;)
nakakainis lang kasi lusot nanaman. >:(
Oo nga eh. After na maging sobrang laking issue ganun ganun na lang na parang deadma...
Kaya hindi sila nagtatanda eh at malamang hindi ito ang huling pagkakataon na gagawin nya ulit ito... >:(
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Si Claudine na daw nagpakumbaba. Kasi siya ang kusang lumapit. Kahit saan mayabang pa rin. alangan naman yung minura nya lumapit and mag sorry sa kanya.. No wonder ganun personality nya. masyadong mataas ang tingin nya sa sarili.
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At least nandito na itong thread na ito. Let's just wait for the next nuclear meltdown ;D Marami pa namang seat sale this year and next year, noh?
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I heard Raffy Tulfo saying there is another video that would completely contradict the claim of Raymart that it was Mon Tulfo that started the brawl. According to him the video is now with their Kuya Mon. Sabi nya it was not Mon Tulfo but another one started the suntukan. Maybe this will appear in You Tube anytime na. ;D
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I heard Raffy Tulfo saying there is another video that would completely contradict the claim of Raymart that it was Mon Tulfo that started the brawl. According to him the video is now with their Kuya Mon. Sabi nya it was not Mon Tulfo but another one started the suntukan. Maybe this will appear in You Tube anytime na. ;D
this i oughta see :D
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Meanwhile....
Court grants Raymart Santiago and Claudine Barretto's application for Temporary Protection Order
http://pep.ph/news/34216/court-grants-raymart-santiago-and-claudine-barretto39s-application-for-temporary-protection-order/1/1
Narito ang kabuuan ng text update:
I am pleased to inform you that the Hon. Bayani Vargas, Presiding Judge of the Regional Trial Court of Quezon City Branch 219 issued an Order dated today24 May 2012 granting our application for issuance of a Temporary Protection Order in favor of the spouses Raymart Santiago and Claudine Barretto.
Pursuant to the TPO, the Chief of the Philippine National Police was ordered to designate the necessary security personnel to the petitioner spouses Santiago.
In the same order, the respondents Ben, Raffy and Erwin Tulfo, their aides and security men were ordered not to do any harm nor approach the petitioners and their immediate family within five hundred (500) meters
;)
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I heard Raffy Tulfo saying there is another video that would completely contradict the claim of Raymart that it was Mon Tulfo that started the brawl. According to him the video is now with their Kuya Mon. Sabi nya it was not Mon Tulfo but another one started the suntukan. Maybe this will appear in You Tube anytime na. ;D
Where did you hear this bro? Very interesting, and this will solve the issue once and for all.
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Bro -- sa radio broadcast ni raffy tulfo kaninang hapon lang. hehehe! ;D
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Kutob ko, matatagalan na sa court ang case na ito. Mahina ang 3 years bago ma-resolve sa court ito.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MVd7rdmYN0&feature=player_embedded
You be the judge! 8)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MVd7rdmYN0&feature=player_embedded
You be the judge! 8)
Busted! ;D
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Nope, this does not prove anything. This does not prove that this was the first part of the incident, middle, or last. Malay natin kung meron pa palang naunang video and scene dito?
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It surely not is the last kasi wala pang mga tama sa mukha ni Mon eh. Tama? Middle naman siguro yung fight scene na. Well dahil medyo malalamig pa sila sa latest video, it is safe to assume na first part nga ito.
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Bukod sa malinis pa itsura ni Tulfo tapos kita na paabot-abot si Raymart sa photog vest nya means first part lang ito, kung saan nasita sya for taking photos at pinag-uusapan nila kung ano ba ang gagawin sa celphone na binulsa ni Tulfo. Yung naka-pink ang nag-umpisa ng assault.
Parang angdaming naka-pink sa kanila. Tulfo, guy, at si Claw-Claw. Diba dapat nakaka-calm ang kulay na pink? ;D
ETA: sorry, yung guard pala ang nasa harap ni Claw Claw at si Raymart nasa likod ni pink guy.
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Who is this guy wearing the pink shirt anyway? Anybody IDed him?
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Who is this guy wearing the pink shirt anyway? Anybody IDed him?
Watch the new video posted above, then check the comments. Pati trabaho niya nakalagay dun
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is it true that mon tulfo is 65 yrs old? tapos pinagtulung-tulungan pa?
grabe, walang kapatawaran yan ahahahaha :o
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Who is this guy wearing the pink shirt anyway? Anybody IDed him?
Busted !!! ;D
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see? hindi naman basta-basta mananakit si Mon in public ng wala lang, di ba? yabang nung naka-pink >:(
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The question is where is the rest of the video ? it seems too short.. napakamalas naman ng nag video if nag low bat na siya, its not something that you would stop recording hehehe
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The question is where is the rest of the video ? it seems too short.. napakamalas naman ng nag video if nag low bat na siya, its not something that you would stop recording hehehe
di kaya natakot din yang magvideo ng tuloy tuloy at baka magaya ke tulfo
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parang teleserye...palaging bitin ang kuwento
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I think Mon has a longer version of that video. He just chose to show the public the first part of it wherein that Eduardo Atilano dude initiates contact. Which is understandable, because he may not want to show any more humiliating footage of himself getting beaten up, or maybe losing his temper and kicking Claw-Claw.
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I think Claw Claw was collateral damage. Dahil magkalapit silang lahat malamang aksidenteng nasipa nya siguro habang gumaganti na sya kay Pink Ranger.
Sana makita yung buong video. Tingin ko nung gumaganti na si Tulfo biglang lapit si Claw Claw sa kanya para i-depensa si Pink Ranger. Doon siguro sya natamaan.
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I think Claw Claw was collateral damage. Dahil magkalapit silang lahat malamang aksidenteng nasipa nya siguro habang gumaganti na sya kay Pink Ranger.
Sana makita yung buong video. Tingin ko nung gumaganti na si Tulfo biglang lapit si Claw Claw sa kanya para i-depensa si Pink Ranger. Doon siguro sya natamaan.
pink ranger LOL ;D
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pink ranger LOL ;D
pink 5 ;D
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Pag nagalit ang isang tao, nagdidilim ang paningin. yan ang sinasabi nating mga pinoy.
For americans, when they get angry, they see red.
Si Mon Tulfo nung nabatukan, saw pink.
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Mayabang yung naka pink talaga, sana magulpi sa labas yun. Kahit ako di ko naman gagawin yung nakakatanda sa akin. Tsk tsk
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Sino ba talaga si Pinky? ;D
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Sino ba talaga si Pinky? ;D
Nasa comments daw nung youtube video yung full name and occupation ni Pink Ranger.
Mayabang yung naka pink talaga, sana magulpi sa labas yun. Kahit ako di ko naman gagawin yung nakakatanda sa akin. Tsk tsk
+1. Mukhang nasa gitna naman sila ng paguusap tapos ganun na lang basta?
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Para sa mga gustong malaman kung sino si pink ranger,
Pinky aka Pink ranger aka Boy Pink up...
Name : Eduardo Atilano
Age: 29
Occupation: Financial Consultant
Address: Penelope Lane, Acropolis Village, Quezon City
from the comments on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MVd7rdmYN0
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Pag nagalit ang isang tao, nagdidilim ang paningin. yan ang sinasabi nating mga pinoy.
For americans, when they get angry, they see red.
Si Mon Tulfo nung nabatukan, saw pink.
itong si Pink, di naman kasali yan sa usapan kasi its between Raymart/Claudine at Mon Tulfo. Kahit pa sila magsigawan eh di siguro aabot dun sa physical.
From the video it seems Pink's move triggered the brawl.
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apparently si pinky has left the building... umalis na raw ng Pinas... palamig muna siguro...
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Wow... Ang tapang naman nyan! Umalis na agad. Am pretty sure he's going to say he received death threats.
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pink 5 ;D
haha... halata sa age.. kung ilan taon na.. kung pink ranger or pink5 ang nasa isip.. hehe
sadly ako pink5 din:(
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haha... halata sa age.. kung ilan taon na.. kung pink ranger or pink5 ang nasa isip.. hehe
sadly ako pink5 din:(
hindi ba mas matanda ang star rangers kesa power rangers? hehehe
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hindi ba mas matanda ang star rangers kesa power rangers? hehehe
OT: pink 5 is from bioman, di ko lang alam sino mas matanda ;D
sanggol pa ako nun nanood ako nyan, pero gandang ganda ako kay pink 5 :D
edit:
(http://bokutoupdtokyo.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/bioman-pink5.jpg)
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OT: Sa team ba nila namatay si Yellow 4 (the other girl in the team) and was subsequently replaced by another girl? Ang tanda ko naaaa!!!! :D :D :D
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OT: Sa team ba nila namatay si Yellow 4 (the other girl in the team) and was subsequently replaced by another girl? Ang tanda ko naaaa!!!! :D :D :D
tama sir. pinalitan nung archer na babae. ang tanda ko na rin!!!!! ;D
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Kung ikaw din yung na off load ng baggage and you have important things there, you will also be pissed. Kung makapag comment tayo dito parang hindi tayo nakagawa ng ganun one way or the other. Tao lang tayo and we also have flare ups like that. Its just that Claudine is a celebrity, thus the hype.
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Pissed, yes. Pero to start a brawl, that's another thing... ;)
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Wala namang nagsasabi na hindi sila magagalit. Maraming nagsasabi na hindi sila maguumpisa ng isang napa-kaviolent na brawl ;D
Pissed, yes. Pero to start a brawl, that's another thing... ;)
Exactly.
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There's a big difference between getting angry and acting like a dick.
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There's a big difference between getting angry and acting like a dick.
+1 ...and to hit a 65 year old man... tsk.. tsk.. tsk.. what would his mother say?
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Surprisingly most mothers would take the side of their son like this guy in pink shirt. They won't even condemn the actions.
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There's a big difference between getting angry and acting like a dick.
+10000000000.
Here's my personal experience.
After getting my hard case luggage in NAIA(inbound from SG flight), I noticed that the corner of my luggage was cracked and shows a 1 inch hole.
My luggage was 2months old and it was my first time to use this bag. WAS very pissed. >:( >:(
Did I make a scene at NAIA? NO!!!
I walked to the airline counter and complained in a courteous manner. No cursing, no disrespectful/hurtful words came out of my mouth. ;D
Followed procedure for filling a complaint.
After a couple of weeks, I received a check. Amount is based on price I declared.(book value of my bag) ;D ;D
Another recent incident last year.
I was in HKIA en route to Manila.
During the boarding process, the airline staff who checked my boarding pass ripped it in front of me and plainly said that they changed my seat. Felt like my BP rose to 240 and in an angry and loud voice i said " Why did you change my seat!!!???"
He responded with 1 word "BECAUSE" and pointed to the seat number on the new boarding pass. In a split second my anger was replaced with happiness and bliss. ;D ;D :D
They upgraded me to Business class. ;)
YES, I get pissed and angry at Airports. It is normal. But at the end of the day, it is up to you how you will react to other people.
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YES, I get pissed and angry at Airports. It is normal. But at the end of the day, it is up to you how you will react to other people.
True. Minsan nga kahit domestic flights lang, delayed ng 1-2 hours. Nakakapeste, nakakainit ng ulo. Pero, wala... andyan na eh.... wala ring mangyayari kung magwalala or magagalit galitan ka dun..... Iyosi mo nalang ang inis mo sa kakahintay sa smoking lounge. Hehe.
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Kung kayo ang nasa panig nila Santiago at makita mong ganun ang mukha ni MT na parang nakakayamot at nagpapanting na ang tenga mo, makakapagtimpi ka pa rin? Kaya nga siguro nasampal ni "Rosas" aka "Pinky".
Kung sa akin, oo titiisin ko na lang. Kasi ayoko ng gulo at ayoko ng bweltahan ako at ang pamilya ko ng di mo alam kung kailan at sa anong paraan.
Iba iba ang ugali ng tao depende sa kinagisnan, kapaligiran, kasamahan at kakayanan kaya marahil ganun ang nagawa ni "Rosas".
Para sa akin, ok lang ang nangyari upang magsilbing aral sa tao at lalo na sa mga mapupusok na kabataan. Kung ito ba ay tutularan o iiwasan.
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If the video shown by channel 5 is the actual start of the brawl then both sides, the Santiagos(Raymart and Claudine) and Tulfo are right in saying that they did not start the fight. kaya lang nung nabatukan na si Tulfo malamang umalma siya at hinabol yung naka-pink. Malamang natabig niya si Raymart kaya nag-react si Claudine. At dahil hinahabol pa rin ni Tulfo yung naka-pink siguro tinabig rin niya si Claudine na nakita naman ni Raymart. Dito na lumala nang husto ang gulo. But these are all conjectures and presumptions. The next part of the video would show what really happened, that is, if there is a next part!
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Kung kayo ang nasa panig nila Santiago at makita mong ganun ang mukha ni MT na parang nakakayamot at nagpapanting na ang tenga mo, makakapagtimpi ka pa rin? Kaya nga siguro nasampal ni "Rosas" aka "Pinky".
Kung sa akin, oo titiisin ko na lang. Kasi ayoko ng gulo at ayoko ng bweltahan ako at ang pamilya ko ng di mo alam kung kailan at sa anong paraan.
Iba iba ang ugali ng tao depende sa kinagisnan, kapaligiran, kasamahan at kakayanan kaya marahil ganun ang nagawa ni "Rosas".
Para sa akin, ok lang ang nangyari upang magsilbing aral sa tao at lalo na sa mga mapupusok na kabataan. Kung ito ba ay tutularan o iiwasan.
madalas ang mga miron o yung mga kampi-kampi ang mga maiinit. imbes na amuin ang kasama susulsulan pa o kaya mauuna pang manakit.
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madalas ang mga miron o yung mga kampi-kampi ang mga maiinit. imbes na amuin ang kasama susulsulan pa o kaya mauuna pang manakit.
...sabay takbo hahaha. ;D
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mukhang namatay na 'to...nagka-ayusan na siguro... :o
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sino namatay? si claudine? ;D ;D ;D