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Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jpadua on Feb 27, 2003 at 11:47 AM
Hey guys, I've been researching on how to build an HTPC, and it is possible to use your PC to output 1080i.  Using powerstrip and a good graphics card, it's possible to upscale regular DVDs to 1080i via software DVD player (PowerDVD).  If your HD TV Set has a VGA input, its as simple as plugging your TV as a monitor to your Video Card and customize your cards output settings (via powerstrip) to out puteither 480p or 1080i.  HD Tv's arent useless in the philippines after all. You can watch regular DVDs in full HD resolution!

Does anyone have any experience with HTPCs? any form of help would be great!
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Feb 27, 2003 at 11:52 AM
Oh by the way here are some cool links if you plan to experiment with your PC as an HD-DVD player
http://www.digital-digest.com/dvd/articles/pcdvd_guide.html
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=31225
http://www.myhometheater.homestead.com/HTPC.html
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Feb 27, 2003 at 12:04 PM
oh here's another one.. how to connect your PC to a HDTV

http://www.digitalconnection.com/Support/cliffnotes_17.htm#NVIDIA%20GeForce
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: bng on Mar 06, 2003 at 09:48 PM
Hi we just finished setting up an HTPC scaler..

Are you planning to use your old DVD PLayer?

If you do make sure your dvdp player is upgradeable with SDI para digital to digital...  if not ok parin

Digital to Digital: Use Holo 3d by immersive http://www.immersiveinc.com/products_holo3d.html

This card is great

Now if you want 1080i  output you can use ATI radeon 9700 kasi it has RGB and DVI output.. make sure your projector supports 1080i resolution.. some projectors like the marrantz 12s1 outputs 1080i with DVI-D connections but if u use RGB you have the option to choose.

If you plan to use your DVDROM you can use TheaterTek DVD player.. this is great better that power dvd or windvd..
right now im testing windvd platinum.. ill let u know the results next week
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jimmylr on Mar 07, 2003 at 09:04 AM
It seems that this thread dont belong here.
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: bently on Mar 07, 2003 at 11:03 PM
It seems that this thread dont belong here.

sorry about that, i accidentally moved it to deals and promo by accident...
this thread should fit in nicely here at ht/sources. :)

bently
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Apr 10, 2003 at 10:54 AM
Hi we just finished setting up an HTPC scaler..

Are you planning to use your old DVD PLayer?

If you do make sure your dvdp player is upgradeable with SDI para digital to digital...  if not ok parin

Digital to Digital: Use Holo 3d by immersive http://www.immersiveinc.com/products_holo3d.html

This card is great

Now if you want 1080i  output you can use ATI radeon 9700 kasi it has RGB and DVI output.. make sure your projector supports 1080i resolution.. some projectors like the marrantz 12s1 outputs 1080i with DVI-D connections but if u use RGB you have the option to choose.

If you plan to use your DVDROM you can use TheaterTek DVD player.. this is great better that power dvd or windvd..
right now im testing windvd platinum.. ill let u know the results next week

You know what, WinDVD platinum is actually pretty good, since its specialized for use with DX9, it uses VMR9 (Video Mixing Renderer 9) which greatly improves picture quality and color, especially on GeForce 4 Cards. Plus it decodes DTS in software, so if you dont have an AV reciever yet but use surround speakers with your sound card, its really good! I think even better than powerDVD, I've had A/V sync problems using DTS with PDVD, with WDVD Plat, no problems.  One more thing about WDVD Plat is that when you drag the player to the bottom of the screen it snaps and can easily be configured to be hidden or set to autohide.  I use it now more than theatre tek just for the DTS :D pretty good!
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: bunkieboy on Apr 11, 2003 at 01:23 AM
interesting concept
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Apr 11, 2003 at 09:15 AM
A little misinformed I was the last post, I just found out that VMR9 (Video Mixing Renderer 9 -dx9) needs to be specifically specified in order to be used using a dvdgraph. Finally after all my testing last night, I was able to create my very own customized DVD graph! I think I have squeezed everysingle last drop of performance out of my machine. Here are the workings of my new DVD Player.

DVD Frontend - Zoom Player 2.90
Video Decoder - Sonic Cinemaster 1.5
Video Post Processor - FFDShow
Audio Decoder - Intervideo Audio Decoder (DD/DTS)
Video Renderer - Video Mixing Renderer 9 (DX9)
Audio Renderer- ReClock .99
 
Zoom Player is a DVD player front end that uses DVDgraphs, so that you can customize your decoders.
FFDShow is a post processing filter that allows you to resize source aspect, sharpen, denoise, etc.
ReClock, is an Audio renenderer that syncs your audio to the speed of your video card to remover stutters, and control A/V sync. And VMR9 supposedly superior to Overlay, makes any GeForce card picture/color quality at par with any ATI card.  

Wow, this is the best setup Ive ever had...  it did give me headaches setting it up through trial and error, but it was worth all the tweeking!
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: bigbird2323 on May 17, 2003 at 05:49 AM
how do you connect a pc to a reciever.what do you need?,i have an nforce2 motherboard with built in audio
Title: Re:HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 02, 2003 at 09:29 AM
how do you connect a pc to a reciever.what do you need?,i have an nforce2 motherboard with built in audio

Hi Bigbird, the NForce2 Motherboard has a powerful audio processor, it up mixes anything from your pc to Dolby Digital.  Anyway.. your board should have a spdif output connector, it may look like a regualar RCA jack or Optical Toslink Connector.  Anyway just hook up this connector to your A/V Reciever through any digital input available on your set.  On windows, go to the sound mixer and select digital output.  If the NForce has a setting for AC-3 Hardware decode, you should turn this off since your A/V reciever will be doing the decoding. I am using an SB Audigy and running a Digital connection to my SR4300.  I just set mine to digital out and turned of AC-3 decoding on my Audigy.. Works great!
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: D75C on Nov 08, 2006 at 08:55 PM
I believe HTPC has a future. With the right components and software, you'll have a near future-proof playback device and a true digital source with tremendous capacity.

It will not matter what your source is. Blu-Ray or HD-DVD. Just buy the drive and start playing.

Create a backup library  of your DVDs and CDs then store them to your hard drives with absolutely no loss. You can turn your PC into a video jukebox and play everything on demand. A 500GB drive can store up to 50-60 DVD-9 movies with all features intact.

Resolution is only limited by your display device, and the PC will always be able to catchup. nVidia's new  graphic cards now have built-in technologies (nVidia Purevideo) that support upconversion, scaling, and frame blending.

Audio. D/As are limited by sound card. My board does 96khz/24bit. I have to wait for my new sound card to arrive this christmas, a 192k/24bit from M-Audio.

Connections. You'll also have a variety of them. If you want the PC to do the channel distribution, you can use the multichannel outputs. If you want a bypass, you can utilize the SPDIF and optical connections available in high-end motherboads and 3rd party sound cards from M-Audio or Creative Labs.

My work in post-production has taken me away from my audio system. So my decision was to bring my audio gear to my PC. I have no regrets.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 09, 2006 at 07:07 AM
I think if you want true HD resolution in 1080p on an HTPC, you would need either a Blu-ray or HD DVD drive installed on your PC, with at least dual core pentium motherboards and with one of those newer and powerful video cards and a monitor that is HDCP-compliant.  Also a software that will play either formats. 
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: D75C on Nov 09, 2006 at 04:42 PM
Hardware requirements will always come into play. A fast CPU will always be beneficial in the absence of a video card with major acceleration features for MPEG formats.

I have a Pentium IV 3.2Ghz HT with 1GB of ram and a nVidia 7800GS video card and almost a 0.8 terabytes of space. So far I haven't come across playback and editing problems for 720p/1080i HDV footage.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: uvax on Nov 09, 2006 at 04:53 PM
You guys may want to take a look at MythTV for an integrated all-in-one open source HTPC solution:

http://www.mythtv.org/modules.php?name=MythFeatures
http://www.denguru.com/2006/09/08/the_mythtv_convergence/
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 09, 2006 at 05:02 PM
I wonder when they will release the BD & HD drives.

This would make agood  all-in-one video center.

Hopefully there is a way that you can control all your devices through a touch panel LCD through RS232 connection? I inquired from AVDI about their little LCD device controller & it costs some 135k-200+k  :o

Didnt know these things were that expensive:

(http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b290/mhyap/Misc/ultimatehometheatre04.jpg)

 
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: atomicat10 on Nov 09, 2006 at 08:04 PM
Sir Matz I think I will have that type of device tom night but it will only cost me 6k (I hope less). It's a PDA with a consumer grade IR port that can also serve as a learning remote with multi zone capabilities meaning I can control a lot of devices and not be limited to one place (single set-up only). Heck I might even go to the malls and turn off all their displays ;D

Dami na rin upgrade ng HT ko. I will share it na lang sa HT thread. One is a Pentium Dual core based SFF HTPC with onboard component video out the size of a  small microwave oven lang  ;D and an EL cheapo Epson projector with a newly replaced lamp.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: MAtZTER on Nov 10, 2006 at 12:21 PM
I also have something like that for sale, it can also control almost everything except those with RF.

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=43411.0

But the touch screen LCD beside your chair just looks so... COOOOOL 8)
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: AlvinladeN on Dec 29, 2006 at 12:32 AM
what if you watch dvd on a 1440x900 native resolution lcd monitor full screen does it mean that the movie is upscaled to 900p?
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: el-el on Dec 30, 2006 at 12:09 AM
what if you watch dvd on a 1440x900 native resolution lcd monitor full screen does it mean that the movie is upscaled to 900p?

SD DVD is just 720x480p... so upscaled sya syempre....  :D
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 30, 2006 at 06:52 AM
SD DVD is 480i, not 480p.  ;D
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jacorb_88 on May 04, 2007 at 03:56 PM
jpadua,

is there htpc casing available locally (how much)? i prefer HT looking casing than PCish types.

thanks.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on May 04, 2007 at 04:33 PM
jpadua,

is there htpc casing available locally (how much)? i prefer HT looking casing than PCish types.

thanks.

You might be able to find an Antec Fusion, There are Antec Distros here, so you could ask them, or maybe have a special order.

(http://www.sudhian.com/img/articles/antec/fusion/fusion.02.jpg)

Here's a Review
http://www.sudhian.com/index.php?/articles/show/antec_fusion_review/
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: Alfie on May 05, 2007 at 07:50 AM
MSI casings are available at various stores in Gilmore, they used to have their own showroom at the Broadway Cybertron but sadly it closed down.

Prices range from 13K-23K, comes with a MSI microatx MB and remote, only setback is due to it's size, you'll have to settle for only one optical drive and one hardisk, there's no place for a slave HD.

Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: bidalluwant on May 25, 2007 at 11:34 AM
I am thinking of using our spare PC as HTPC. May video card pa ba na available with Component out? Progressive scan kasi ang TV ko na 1080i.  ::)
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: john5479 on May 25, 2007 at 11:38 AM
you can get video cards that have a component out dongle.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: bidalluwant on May 25, 2007 at 12:53 PM
Thanks John. I'll check the computer shops for it.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 04, 2007 at 02:35 PM
mga sir tanong lang po, newbie lang kasi ako sa HD :)
 
kelangan pa ba ng powerstrip to adjust my screen reso kung kaya naman idetect ng ATI ang native reso (1360 x 760) ng HDTV ko?
using PowerDVD, kapag ba nasa fullscreen mode na upscaled na to 720p (since 1360 x 760 reso na siya) ung dvd playback?

 ;D
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 04, 2007 at 03:16 PM
mga sir tanong lang po, newbie lang kasi ako sa HD :)
 
kelangan pa ba ng powerstrip to adjust my screen reso kung kaya naman idetect ng ATI ang native reso (1360 x 760) ng HDTV ko?
using PowerDVD, kapag ba nasa fullscreen mode na upscaled na to 720p (since 1360 x 760 reso na siya) ung dvd playback?

 ;D


The latest video card drivers would be able to output 1360x760 resolution na for your HDTV.  Pag nag power DVD ka it scales it to 760p
Ang 720p is just an HD standard.   
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 04, 2007 at 03:40 PM
Pag nag power DVD ka it scales it to 760p
Ang 720p is just an HD standard.   

thanks sir! follow up questions:
so kapag toggled to full screen ung PowerDVD 760p na un sir? hindi ko na kailangan ng DVD players with 720p/1080i capability to use the full potential of my HDTV, tama po ba un?

since, wala "daw" masyadong diff ang HDMI vs component connections, illl try din later to connect my x1950pro to the tv via component, may PQ improvement kaya ito compared to the VGA connection which im currently using?

meron akong biniling "generic" dvi-hdmi cable... i tried connecting the tv to my pc using this cable... Sabi sa manual, "if using HDMI-DVI cable, you need to connect the audio cable"... ginawa ko un.. So ang setup pc---> HDMI-DVI ---> TV; ung audio cable (red/white) nakakabit sa tv then sa speaker ko, Sound Card --->speaker ---->audio cable ---> TV...
I switched the TV to HDMI mode, black screen (pero may nakalagay na "HDMI mode"), ung sound na galing sa PC speaker ko na route sa TV speaker... bakit nag-black screen? bakit nasa TV speaker ung sound? may kalokohan ba ang akong ginawa?
sabi pala sa manual, dapat daw may HDMI na tatak ung cable na gagamitin, ung ginamit ko wala kasi generic siya hehe
   
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 04, 2007 at 04:27 PM
thanks sir! follow up questions:
so kapag toggled to full screen ung PowerDVD 760p na un sir? hindi ko na kailangan ng DVD players with 720p/1080i capability to use the full potential of my HDTV, tama po ba un?

since, wala "daw" masyadong diff ang HDMI vs component connections, illl try din later to connect my x1950pro to the tv via component, may PQ improvement kaya ito compared to the VGA connection which im currently using?

meron akong biniling "generic" dvi-hdmi cable... i tried connecting the tv to my pc using this cable... Sabi sa manual, "if using HDMI-DVI cable, you need to connect the audio cable"... ginawa ko un.. So ang setup pc---> HDMI-DVI ---> TV; ung audio cable (red/white) nakakabit sa tv then sa speaker ko, Sound Card --->speaker ---->audio cable ---> TV...
I switched the TV to HDMI mode, black screen (pero may nakalagay na "HDMI mode"), ung sound na galing sa PC speaker ko na route sa TV speaker... bakit nag-black screen? bakit nasa TV speaker ung sound? may kalokohan ba ang akong ginawa?
sabi pala sa manual, dapat daw may HDMI na tatak ung cable na gagamitin, ung ginamit ko wala kasi generic siya hehe
   

With your PC, yes, you can output the exact native resolution of your HDTV for best PQ. If you play a DVD (480p) it is automatically scaled to your set resolution.  If you use an upscaling DVD player, the DVD (480p) is upscaled and sent to your HDTV as 720p then your HDTV will have to upscale again to its native res of 760p.  If you are upscaling naman to 1080i, the player will upscale from 480p to  1080i and your HDTV again will downscale to 760p.  Using your PC, you scaling only happens once, form 480p to 760p which would yield the best PQ. 

You might not see much difference with VGA and Component they have sort of the same quality, as with HDMI and DVI. 

Ive used a generic DVI-HDMI cable also and it works with no problem with our 32" LCD TV.  Just hook up the DVI end to the PC and the HDMI end to the TV.  Just use your PC speakers for Audio.  In this setup you are only using the Video part of the HDMI cable.  HDMI can carry both Video and Audio digital signals in one cable.  Since DVI-HDMI yung cable you are only sending digital video signals. 
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 04, 2007 at 04:46 PM
thank you very much sir for the enlightening answers.

isa pa  ;D
bakit kaya hindi nadetect ng VC ko yung tv ko when i used hdmi-dvi? pero kapag vga naman, detected naman as Sony TV siya.
May problem kaya ung cable? o ung HDMI port ng tv mismo?
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 04, 2007 at 08:49 PM
thank you very much sir for the enlightening answers.

isa pa  ;D
bakit kaya hindi nadetect ng VC ko yung tv ko when i used hdmi-dvi? pero kapag vga naman, detected naman as Sony TV siya.
May problem kaya ung cable? o ung HDMI port ng tv mismo?

No problem :)

Dapat ma detect yun, kung nadedetect pag VGA, what does it say? Plug and Play Monitor?  Anyway it shouldnt matter, as long as you know what the native resolution is, and you set your VC to output that you shouldnt have a problem.  I'm using a DVI cable with a resolution of 1280x720@60hz. My TV is a 27" Syntax LCD TV.  It's detected as a plug and play monitor, but I still have great PQ.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 05, 2007 at 02:05 PM
No problem :)

Dapat ma detect yun, kung nadedetect pag VGA, what does it say? Plug and Play Monitor?  Anyway it shouldnt matter, as long as you know what the native resolution is, and you set your VC to output that you shouldnt have a problem.  I'm using a DVI cable with a resolution of 1280x720@60hz. My TV is a 27" Syntax LCD TV.  It's detected as a plug and play monitor, but I still have great PQ.

naka dual monitor setup po ako sir sa HTPC mode... detected as Sony TV (pero CRT - siguro dahil nga VGA ang gamit) siya sa VGA - primary monitor, then 20" viewsonic as clone... i've tested all possible connection to the HDTV, and i concluded na pinaka-ok ang VGA connection...

may panibago akong naisip hehe
sigurado in the near future magkakaroon na ng internal HD-DVD drive for PC, HD-DVD playback capable softwares susunod na rin... ang tanong, ano ang magiging difference ng HD-DVD drive + HD-DVD softie + QuadCore CPU + Radeon X2900XTX VS Top of the line Branded HD-DVD players in performance? ano mas bang for the buck? 
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 05, 2007 at 06:04 PM
naka dual monitor setup po ako sir sa HTPC mode... detected as Sony TV (pero CRT - siguro dahil nga VGA ang gamit) siya sa VGA - primary monitor, then 20" viewsonic as clone... i've tested all possible connection to the HDTV, and i concluded na pinaka-ok ang VGA connection...

may panibago akong naisip hehe
sigurado in the near future magkakaroon na ng internal HD-DVD drive for PC, HD-DVD playback capable softwares susunod na rin... ang tanong, ano ang magiging difference ng HD-DVD drive + HD-DVD softie + QuadCore CPU + Radeon X2900XTX VS Top of the line Branded HD-DVD players in performance? ano mas bang for the buck? 

If you think about it, at this point in time, baka you might end up speding more, if you compare price, and also software at this point is flaky, some may work, some might have some bugs.  But I'm sure soon enough software and hardware will become cheaper.  LG recently released an HD-DVD/Blueray Writer, so with this drive, you dont have to worry about format wars anymore, the Drive itself is about 30K++ not so sure, about the same price as a Blue ray player, a little more youve already got a PS3.

When the HDDVD/BLUEray writer comes down to about 15K... panalo na HTPC with that. 2 in one, plus you can burn on to BR-Recordables. Its a PC, all in one... so then again sulit.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 05, 2007 at 06:25 PM
sir, i think were looking on the same horizon hehe
HDDVD/BluRay/DVD/Divx/Avi/Mp4/Mp3/whatever playing machine with internet connectivity + other functions = pwnage  ;D

HTPC Rules!  ;D
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 06, 2007 at 11:53 AM
[q]yes, but not through spdif... powerdvd will decode it if u choose 5.1 channel speaker setting and then have your sound card send the 6 channel thru analog out... just like DVD Audio or SACD [/q]
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=773218&page=3&pp=30 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=773218&page=3&pp=30)

i already found a HD player, PowerDvd 7.2 Ultra Deluxe =)
iniisip ko lang, paano i-transfer and TrueHD/DTS-HD from SC to AVR?
sabi sa taas, software will decode it then analog connection to your multi-media speakers...
so from SC to AVR, use analog connections (so kelangan mo ng y-splitters diba?)... so "analog passthorugh" na lang ang gamit ng AVR? you dont actually need an AVR with TrueHD/DTS-HD capability diba? tama po ba?
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 06, 2007 at 12:52 PM
[q]yes, but not through spdif... powerdvd will decode it if u choose 5.1 channel speaker setting and then have your sound card send the 6 channel thru analog out... just like DVD Audio or SACD [/q]
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=773218&page=3&pp=30 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=773218&page=3&pp=30)

i already found a HD player, PowerDvd 7.2 Ultra Deluxe =)
iniisip ko lang, paano i-transfer and TrueHD/DTS-HD from SC to AVR?
sabi sa taas, software will decode it then analog connection to your multi-media speakers...
so from SC to AVR, use analog connections (so kelangan mo ng y-splitters diba?)... so "analog passthorugh" na lang ang gamit ng AVR? you dont actually need an AVR with TrueHD/DTS-HD capability diba? tama po ba?

Yes, software decode yung audio.  you should have a 5.1 soundcard, and your AVR should have 6ch direct analog inputs.  I'm using an Audigy2 zs, I just use 3 baby stereo -> RCA cables. 

To make the explanation simpler, AVR will only be an amplifier, not a decoder since PowerDVD will do the HD audio decoding. :) 
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 06, 2007 at 01:14 PM
may sonical difference ba kapag ganun? between AVR audio HD decoding vs software decoding?
kasi nung may z5500 pa ako, software vs hardware DTS decoding is minimal to nill to my untrained ears  :) ganun din kaya dito?
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 06, 2007 at 01:32 PM
may sonical difference ba kapag ganun? between AVR audio HD decoding vs software decoding?
kasi nung may z5500 pa ako, software vs hardware DTS decoding is minimal to nill to my untrained ears  :) ganun din kaya dito?


Meron siguro konti. All the decoder is doing is converting the digital source to analog.  what's comparable would be the soundcards DACs vs your AVRs Dacs. If you are using a high end soundcard, then it might sound better compared to a budget AVR doing the decoding. Personally though if It sounds good to my ears it doesnt really matter. :)
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 06, 2007 at 01:35 PM
Personally though if It sounds good to my ears it doesnt really matter. :)

I couldn't agree more sir!  ;D ;
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jvm on Jun 08, 2007 at 04:18 PM
I'm looking at having an HTPC. What's the least budget where I can have a decent HTPC? And can you share some specs?

Thanks.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: tambutsoo on Jun 08, 2007 at 11:41 PM
Asrock  ALiveNF7G-HD720p

   1. Socket AM2 for AMD Athlon™ 64FX / 64X2 / X2 / 64 and Sempron processors
   2. NVIDIA® GeForce 7050 / nForce 630A MCP Chipsets

    * AMD LIVE!™ Ready
    * Supports Dual Channel DDRII800/667/533 with 4 DIMM slots, maximum capacity up to 8GB
    * ASRock AM2 Boost: ASRock Patented Technology to boost memory performance up to 12.5%
    * Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce7 Series (NV44) DX9.0 VGA, Pixel Shader 3.0, Max. shared memory 256MB
    * 1 x PCI Express x 16 slot
    * Hybrid Booster - ASRock Safe Overclocking Technology
    * Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed PCIE/ PCI Buses
    * Dual VGA Output: Support DVI-D and D-Sub ports by independent display controllers
    * Supports HDCP function with DVI-D port, to enjoy better quality with High Definition HDCP Encryption contents
    * Supports 720p Blu-ray (BD) / HD-DVD playback
    * NVIDIA® PureVideo™ Ready
    * 4 x Serial ATAII 3.0 Gb/s, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, RAID 5, JBOD), NCQ, AHCI and "Hot Plug" functions
    * Supports Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s
    * HDMI_SPDIF header, providing SPDIF audio output to HDMI VGA card, allows the system to connect HDMI Digital TV/projector/LCD devices.
    * Chipset embedded HDMI Audio which supports HDMI signal through DVI-D port by using DVI to HDMI adapter (not bundled)
    * 7.1 CH Windows® Vista™ Premium Level HD Audio (ALC888 Audio Codec)
    * Windows® Vista™ Premium 2007 Logo Ready
    * ASRock DVI/H I/O: 1 x VGA/DVI-D Port, 1 x VGA/D-Sub Port

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF7G-HD720p (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF7G-HD720p)

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Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jpadua on Jun 09, 2007 at 04:14 AM
Asrock  ALiveNF7G-HD720p

   1. Socket AM2 for AMD Athlon™ 64FX / 64X2 / X2 / 64 and Sempron processors
   2. NVIDIA® GeForce 7050 / nForce 630A MCP Chipsets

    * AMD LIVE!™ Ready
    * Supports Dual Channel DDRII800/667/533 with 4 DIMM slots, maximum capacity up to 8GB
    * ASRock AM2 Boost: ASRock Patented Technology to boost memory performance up to 12.5%
    * Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce7 Series (NV44) DX9.0 VGA, Pixel Shader 3.0, Max. shared memory 256MB
    * 1 x PCI Express x 16 slot
    * Hybrid Booster - ASRock Safe Overclocking Technology
    * Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed PCIE/ PCI Buses
    * Dual VGA Output: Support DVI-D and D-Sub ports by independent display controllers
    * Supports HDCP function with DVI-D port, to enjoy better quality with High Definition HDCP Encryption contents
    * Supports 720p Blu-ray (BD) / HD-DVD playback
    * NVIDIA® PureVideo™ Ready
    * 4 x Serial ATAII 3.0 Gb/s, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, RAID 5, JBOD), NCQ, AHCI and "Hot Plug" functions
    * Supports Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s
    * HDMI_SPDIF header, providing SPDIF audio output to HDMI VGA card, allows the system to connect HDMI Digital TV/projector/LCD devices.
    * Chipset embedded HDMI Audio which supports HDMI signal through DVI-D port by using DVI to HDMI adapter (not bundled)
    * 7.1 CH Windows® Vista™ Premium Level HD Audio (ALC888 Audio Codec)
    * Windows® Vista™ Premium 2007 Logo Ready
    * ASRock DVI/H I/O: 1 x VGA/DVI-D Port, 1 x VGA/D-Sub Port

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF7G-HD720p (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF7G-HD720p)

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Yun na! Thanks for this post, been looking for a good mobo for an HTPC. Sayang wala bang full ATX version to?
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: Fait on Jun 09, 2007 at 01:54 PM
A little OT here but I can't help myself from not asking it.

What's the difference of 1360x768 and 1366x768 resolution?

Because my first Lcd Tv was Samsung 32" S71 and I used it as a primary monitor, and the native resolution I am getting was 1366x768 -- then after couple of weeks, I bought a Sony Bravia V200A in exchange for the S71 - but using the V200A, im only getting 1360x768 (may be this is one reason why my CS 1.6 game can not detect the native resolution of the hdtv, while got no problems playing with cs 1.6 on my S71) - and now, I am currently using Aquos PX5M and im getting same resolution with the bravia which is 1360x768 - any thoughts how can i make it 1366 instead of 1360? hope HTPC gurus can explain this to me further. ;)

My specs are:
ASUS P5WDH Deluxe Wifi-Ap
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600
ATI x1950 Pro 512mb
Sharp Aquos 32PX5M via DVI-VGA cable

Again, Sorry if this is a OT in this thread.

T.I.A ;)
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 09, 2007 at 06:20 PM
sa CCC pede ka yata gumawa ng custom reso  ;D
or try powerstrip, pero be careful and focused, nakakasira sa LCD ang maling tweak sa powerstrip  ;D
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: Fait on Jun 09, 2007 at 06:45 PM
sa CCC pede ka yata gumawa ng custom reso  ;D
or try powerstrip, pero be careful and focused, nakakasira sa LCD ang maling tweak sa powerstrip  ;D
@leomar:

Not really custom resolution because in the tv's spec, it's really 1366x768 not 1360x768 -- but im only getting 1360x768.. same w/ your bravia for sure.
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 09, 2007 at 07:22 PM
yup pero since hindi "yata" detected ng CCC ung 1366 x 768 e, so gawa ka na lang ng custom 1366 x 768 para lumabas siya sa force option...
pero ako, masaya na ako sa 1360 x 768  :)
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: Fait on Jun 09, 2007 at 07:32 PM
@leomar:

Nakakasira ba kapag "forced" resolution? (obviously yes, lol.. just want to ask it)

Anyway, what's CCC?
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: leomar on Jun 09, 2007 at 07:53 PM
actually hindi ako sure... at ayaw ko rin mag-experiment hehe
CCC is (ATI) Catalyst Control Center...
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: ericag_ph on Jun 12, 2007 at 01:56 PM
I'm using 1360x768 also.  Video card is ATI X700.  LCD TV is Samsung LA40R71
Manual states resolution is 1360 and not 1366.  I wouldn't use powerstrip just to get 6 more pixels. Can you notice that (6 pixels) from your viewing distance of say 2.5 to 3m?   ;D
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: squatt3r on Sep 10, 2007 at 08:33 PM


my htpc powered by Q6600

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P2190007Small.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d41/empoy/P2210026Small.jpg)
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 12, 2007 at 08:29 AM
Asrock  ALiveNF7G-HD720p

   1. Socket AM2 for AMD Athlon™ 64FX / 64X2 / X2 / 64 and Sempron processors
   2. NVIDIA® GeForce 7050 / nForce 630A MCP Chipsets

    * AMD LIVE!™ Ready
    * Supports Dual Channel DDRII800/667/533 with 4 DIMM slots, maximum capacity up to 8GB
    * ASRock AM2 Boost: ASRock Patented Technology to boost memory performance up to 12.5%
    * Integrated NVIDIA® GeForce7 Series (NV44) DX9.0 VGA, Pixel Shader 3.0, Max. shared memory 256MB
    * 1 x PCI Express x 16 slot
    * Hybrid Booster - ASRock Safe Overclocking Technology
    * Untied Overclocking : During Overclocking, FSB enjoys better margin due to fixed PCIE/ PCI Buses
    * Dual VGA Output: Support DVI-D and D-Sub ports by independent display controllers
    * Supports HDCP function with DVI-D port, to enjoy better quality with High Definition HDCP Encryption contents
    * Supports 720p Blu-ray (BD) / HD-DVD playback
    * NVIDIA® PureVideo™ Ready
    * 4 x Serial ATAII 3.0 Gb/s, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 0+1, RAID 5, JBOD), NCQ, AHCI and "Hot Plug" functions
    * Supports Gigabit LAN 10/100/1000 Mb/s
    * HDMI_SPDIF header, providing SPDIF audio output to HDMI VGA card, allows the system to connect HDMI Digital TV/projector/LCD devices.
    * Chipset embedded HDMI Audio which supports HDMI signal through DVI-D port by using DVI to HDMI adapter (not bundled)
    * 7.1 CH Windows® Vista™ Premium Level HD Audio (ALC888 Audio Codec)
    * Windows® Vista™ Premium 2007 Logo Ready
    * ASRock DVI/H I/O: 1 x VGA/DVI-D Port, 1 x VGA/D-Sub Port

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF7G-HD720p (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=ALiveNF7G-HD720p)

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Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: squatt3r on Sep 12, 2007 at 10:32 AM
sa gilmore. try mo din sa tipidpc madami reseller doon
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: ericag_ph on Sep 12, 2007 at 11:23 AM
Nope you don't need powerstrip.  You use it only when you need a resolution
your video card/drivers cannot provide....like 1000x700 assuming you need that resolution.  Read the docs on it before using.  Improper use can damage your hardware and display.

I think powerDVD upscales it to 768p once you set video card to display 1360x768.


mga sir tanong lang po, newbie lang kasi ako sa HD :)
 
kelangan pa ba ng powerstrip to adjust my screen reso kung kaya naman idetect ng ATI ang native reso (1360 x 760) ng HDTV ko?
using PowerDVD, kapag ba nasa fullscreen mode na upscaled na to 720p (since 1360 x 760 reso na siya) ung dvd playback?

 ;D

Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 12, 2007 at 05:30 PM
sa gilmore. try mo din sa tipidpc madami reseller doon

Ok thanks bro!
Title: Re: HTPC for use with your HD TV
Post by: jerix on Nov 15, 2007 at 12:27 PM
To those using HTPC for their pJ how is the PQ compared to standalone dvd players?
How is your audio connection to your receiver?

I am thinking of experimenting on this but considering the price of a DVI to HDMI cable i would like to solicit your experience first... i am afraid the result may not justify the expense. ::)
Title: anybody here who's into htpc?
Post by: nutkrakr on May 16, 2008 at 07:02 PM
i'm using theatertek software, and currently using windows media player with codecs installed by my great friend to play mkv files in 720p and 1080p format.  my friend updated the codec so i can play bluray type files through my computer, now comes the problem, whenever i'll use theatertek for my dvds, it'll ask me to reinstall theatertek, there seems to be some conflicts with the bluray codec and theatertek. does anybody here who's using theatertek with a bluray optical drive who's not facing same problem with my htpc? just want to know the proper settings :'(
Title: Re: anybody here who's into htpc?
Post by: pchin on May 16, 2008 at 11:11 PM
There's another thread about HTPC which may generate better response :)

http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=13274.0
Title: Re: anybody here who's into htpc?
Post by: nutkrakr on May 18, 2008 at 11:03 PM
thanks
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Oct 08, 2008 at 10:48 AM
am using a 780g chipset connected to a panny 42pv70h..

question ko lang is di nakasagad yung picture when playing movies thru HDMI (half-inch siguro both sides), pero pag TV/Cable, sagad naman..

panu kaya i-adjust to? thru sa ATI control panel ba or sa TV itself..

tnx.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Munskie on Oct 08, 2008 at 10:53 AM
am using a 780g chipset connected to a panny 42pv70h..

question ko lang is di nakasagad yung picture when playing movies thru HDMI (half-inch siguro both sides), pero pag TV/Cable, sagad naman..

panu kaya i-adjust to? thru sa ATI control panel ba or sa TV itself..

tnx.

I'm also waiting for any help from HTPCs guru here....same dilemma.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: milken on Oct 08, 2008 at 11:41 AM
LOL. same dilemna here.  kaya i'm very happy with NMT coz there's no missing portion.   :D

Does your video card allow you to manually set screen resolution to 1024 x 768?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Munskie on Oct 08, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Afaik, thru HDMI you cant.    I think I read somewhere thru VGA, the screen would be filled up....Im just not sure.

Thats why Im thinking of getting a 2nd NMT, but since my PC is just beside our plasma, extended monitor na lang, and meron pa savings.   Tutal, we only watch TV series in our bedroom.  ;) 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Oct 08, 2008 at 12:53 PM
LOL. same dilemna here.  kaya i'm very happy with NMT coz there's no missing portion.   :D

Does your video card allow you to manually set screen resolution to 1024 x 768?

sa NMT's sagad, so this means sa settings lang ng video card siguro.. merong sinasabi si jay_26 regarding sa overscan sa ATI control panel..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: thesaint on Oct 08, 2008 at 04:42 PM
Ganun din sa nvidia. Ang pag ka alam ko pag sagad yung setting sa 1920 x 1080 may black bars then wala ng adjustment sa LCDTV.
Pero pag 1280 x 720 may black bars pero may adjustment pa ng wide zoom (2x).

Kapag bluray disc or dvd disc using power dvd. May black bars din. Wala ng adjustment.
Kapag MKV file using power dvd. Right click then uncheck lang yung aspect ratio.
Sigurado naka fullscreen na ito w/o black bars...

as may experience...

FYI.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Oct 08, 2008 at 11:19 PM
was able to fill the full screen by enabling overscan in the ATI control panel..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 09, 2008 at 01:47 AM
Ganun din sa nvidia. Ang pag ka alam ko pag sagad yung setting sa 1920 x 1080 may black bars then wala ng adjustment sa LCDTV.
Pero pag 1280 x 720 may black bars pero may adjustment pa ng wide zoom (2x).

Kapag bluray disc or dvd disc using power dvd. May black bars din. Wala ng adjustment.
Kapag MKV file using power dvd. Right click then uncheck lang yung aspect ratio.
Sigurado naka fullscreen na ito w/o black bars...

as may experience...

FYI.


if youre using a panasonic tv .. you can use the zoom1 or 4:3 full option while watching movies .. yer desktop still has black bars but atleast while watching movies you get to use all pixel ..  8) 8) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bigtym on Oct 14, 2008 at 05:18 AM
I am a PV8 user with an HTPC connected via DVI-HDMI cable. Resolution settings are 1280 x 720 (native resolution of TV). Then on plasma settings, Setup > Picture Overscan > Off. The picture fits perfectly with the screen. If your using Vista, don't forget to set font size DPI to 120 so the text is more readable.

Thanks,
Miki
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2008 at 05:34 AM
I am a PV8 user with an HTPC connected via DVI-HDMI cable. Resolution settings are 1280 x 720 (native resolution of TV). Then on plasma settings, Setup > Picture Overscan > Off. The picture fits perfectly with the screen. If your using Vista, don't forget to set font size DPI to 120 so the text is more readable.
Thanks,
Miki
same with my pv80 .. i was supposed to pm someone in tpc about this .. ;D
but hd_movies is using a pv70, im assuming it has the same controls
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 14, 2008 at 06:05 AM
Anybody know of a codec pack for MKV for Windows Vista Media Center?  Tried K-lite and CCCP codec packs but they don't work in the Media Center.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2008 at 06:26 AM
Anybody know of a codec pack for MKV for Windows Vista Media Center?  Tried K-lite and CCCP codec packs but they don't work in the Media Center.
im using media player classic, kmplayer and avc players and codecs bro ..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 14, 2008 at 07:46 AM
im using media player classic, kmplayer and avc players and codecs bro ..

I'm presently using Zoom Player and I am already happy with it.  I just like the layout of the media center.   
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:28 AM
I'm presently using Zoom Player and I am already happy with it.  I just like the layout of the media center.   
try changing the file extension of the file to from .mkv to .avi ..
since media player and the other players can regonize mkv, i believe the issue here is just the file association ..
hope this helps bro  :)
ill try this myself once i get home  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 14, 2008 at 08:55 AM
try changing the file extension of the file to from .mkv to .avi ..
since media player and the other players can regonize mkv, i believe the issue here is just the file association ..

ill try this myself once i get home  ;D


Windows Vista Media Player I think is quite a headache for mkv, but it works quite well even for streaming high def in avi format.

Right now, I rely on MPC exclusively for 1080ps (with FFDshow and AC3Filter) and KMP for 720p and kung kakayanin yung 1080p.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dyerds on Oct 14, 2008 at 10:21 AM
Help naman. Bakit kapag KMPlayer ang gamit ko in some movies hindi pantay yung screen pero kapag Klite okay naman. I prefer using KMP more than Klite so what will do to solve the problem? TIA

Screenshot using KMPlayer:

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2ih6x6h.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2008 at 11:49 AM
Help naman. Bakit kapag KMPlayer ang gamit ko in some movies hindi pantay yung screen pero kapag Klite okay naman. I prefer using KMP more than Klite so what will do to solve the problem? TIA

Screenshot using KMPlayer:

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2ih6x6h.jpg)

hold down CTRL + numkeys (4,6,8,2)
adjust to your preference .. im sorry but i cant give you a concrete advise since i cant see you image here .. (im at the office and afaik tinyurls are blocked)  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 14, 2008 at 12:06 PM
Help naman. Bakit kapag KMPlayer ang gamit ko in some movies hindi pantay yung screen pero kapag Klite okay naman. I prefer using KMP more than Klite so what will do to solve the problem? TIA

Screenshot using KMPlayer:

(http://i38.tinypic.com/2ih6x6h.jpg)

ahh i can see it now!
hold down CTRL + Enter  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dyerds on Oct 15, 2008 at 01:08 AM
ahh i can see it now!
hold down CTRL + Enter  ;)

It didn't work.   :-[
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 15, 2008 at 03:34 AM
It didn't work.   :-[
try the CTRL + numkeys 2,8,4,6 (kmplayer)
or the numkeys lang if youre using media player classic  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: andre on Oct 15, 2008 at 07:45 PM
I noticed Media Player 11 has nicer & sharper colors than Media Player Classic. However Media Player 11 can't display some subtitles.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dyerds on Oct 16, 2008 at 12:38 AM
try the CTRL + numkeys 2,8,4,6 (kmplayer)
or the numkeys lang if youre using media player classic  :D

I got it! You don't need to press on Ctrl  just num 2, 4, 6 or 8 will do. Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mojako on Oct 16, 2008 at 08:59 AM
na curios ako sa KMPlayer so i downloaded it. 

Using it now to watch yung mga downloaded .avi (non-HD) ng CSI Miami.  When I use VLC, parang napaka bright ng color "green", sa KMPlayer, parang mas natural sya.  Galing. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 20, 2008 at 11:24 AM
na curios ako sa KMPlayer so i downloaded it. 
Using it now to watch yung mga downloaded .avi (non-HD) ng CSI Miami.  When I use VLC, parang napaka bright ng color "green", sa KMPlayer, parang mas natural sya.  Galing. 

my officemate suggested this ..
he even burnt me a copy, just to convince me to use it .. its been my primary player, next is the media player classic .. :)

I got it! You don't need to press on Ctrl  just num 2, 4, 6 or 8 will do. Thanks!  :)

ahh the one with CTRL is for kmplayer users and no need to hold it down when using media player classic ..
thats good news it worked for you bro. .. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mojako on Oct 20, 2008 at 01:56 PM
ninja,
what codec do you use to watch xvids?  Built-in codec ng KMPlayer?  Or ffdshow or divx?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 20, 2008 at 02:00 PM
ninja,
what codec do you use to watch xvids?  Built-in codec ng KMPlayer?  Or ffdshow or divx?
installed from media player classic
kmplayer
lastly, the core avc .. :)
not really sure what my system is using ..
but i dont uninstall codecs, even if the next installation prompts me to  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2008 at 06:41 AM
I plan to buy a BD drive but I want to be sure if my HDMI can pass through HD audio to my receiver.  Powerdvd 8.0 Ultra can support HD-audio formats.  Is this enough?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 01, 2008 at 06:50 AM
I plan to buy a BD drive but I want to be sure if my HDMI can pass through HD audio to my receiver.  Powerdvd 8.0 Ultra can support HD-audio formats.  Is this enough?
yes bro .. that should work ..
still have some issues with the coax and toslink?
thanks pala sa demo ng cdrking .. presenter  :D
too i cant find the software that speeds up the mouse pointer .. >:(
ill ask my friends whats that software, kalimutan ko na he ..  :D

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2008 at 07:13 AM
yes bro .. that should work ..
still have some issues with the coax and toslink?
thanks pala sa demo ng cdrking .. presenter  :D


Thanks!  I didn't try anymore the coax and toslink outputs.  I was enjoying watching already with DD/DTS output thru HDMI nalang.  Less hassle pa.  I just wondered why it only worked in Media Player Classic.  I tried using it with Zoom player but there was no audio output.  :-\

Regarding the CDRKing remote mouse.  I don't have any qualms about its speed anymore.  The speed and accuracy of the pointer is easier to manage specially on 1080p in my PJ.  Imagine how small the icons are. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 01, 2008 at 07:29 AM
Windows Vista Media Player I think is quite a headache for mkv, but it works quite well even for streaming high def in avi format.
Right now, I rely on MPC exclusively for 1080ps (with FFDshow and AC3Filter) and KMP for 720p and kung kakayanin yung 1080p.
doc tell Clondalkin what happened when we added the .mkv folder to the video folder of vista's media center  :D :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 01, 2008 at 07:34 AM
Regarding the CDRKing remote mouse.  I don't have any qualms about its speed anymore.  The speed and accuracy of the pointer is easier to manage specially on 1080p in my PJ.  Imagine how small the icons are. 
ill tweak mine .. i just hope cdrking restocks these ..
its not yet included in my budget for now.  too bad i think i need WAF now .. nahuli kasi ako .. ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2008 at 07:48 AM
doc tell Clondalkin what happened when we added the .mkv folder to the video folder of vista's media center  :D :D

Were you able to display the vista media center on start-up? Parang gusto ko tuloy bumalik sa vista.  Waaaah!

ill tweak mine .. i just hope cdrking restocks these ..
its not yet included in my budget for now.  too bad i think i need WAF now .. nahuli kasi ako .. ;D

I think it is not one of its fast moving products.  With a lot of CDRKing branches, i think you won't run out of this.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 01, 2008 at 07:56 AM
doc tell Clondalkin what happened when we added the .mkv folder to the video folder of vista's media center  :D :D

Better ikaw nalang coz you know the technicalities.  BTW, when are you going to the house so you can also tweak my rig.   ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: docelmo on Nov 01, 2008 at 08:41 AM
I plan to buy a BD drive but I want to be sure if my HDMI can pass through HD audio to my receiver.  Powerdvd 8.0 Ultra can support HD-audio formats.  Is this enough?
Bro, will the BD drive play mkv format dvds? ;D
thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 01, 2008 at 09:17 AM
Better ikaw nalang coz you know the technicalities.  BTW, when are you going to the house so you can also tweak my rig.   ;)

prolly on monday .. my off was rescheduled again .. >:(
unless you can pick me up tomorrow or later at 2pm after work (needs WAF) .. ;D
btw what are we gonna tweak again?  if you want we can reinstall vista on your unit, too bad we are not using the same chipset .. we could easily copy my settings sana .. :(

Were you able to display the vista media center on start-up? Parang gusto ko tuloy bumalik sa vista.  Waaaah!
I think it is not one of its fast moving products.  With a lot of CDRKing branches, i think you won't run out of this.

i havent tried it yet, remember my explorer is bugging me the last time .. after i backup the movies .. reformat ko narin ..
and yeah i can still see one presenter here in market2x branch .. :)

Bro, will the BD drive play mkv format dvds? ;D
thanks!

even your ordinary DVDrom can do that .. theres no need to get a BDrom for its playback .. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: docelmo on Nov 01, 2008 at 10:24 PM
even your ordinary DVDrom can do that .. theres no need to get a BDrom for its playback .. :D
Thanks bro! but is this also true w/ PS3 or Stand-alone BD player w/ regards to playing mkv format dvds?
If not, then a BDrom drive equipped HTPC would a cheaper alternative to playing all our hidef videos...
 ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 02, 2008 at 05:41 AM
Thanks bro! but is this also true w/ PS3 or Stand-alone BD player w/ regards to playing mkv format dvds?
If not, then a BDrom drive equipped HTPC would a cheaper alternative to playing all our hidef videos...
 ;D
well mkv files are just "files".  stand alone bdplayer and ps3 cannot play mkvs because it is not a "file" they support.
same as with a BDrom and DVDrom ... if your media player does not have the right codecs, then it will not play. ..   ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: docelmo on Nov 02, 2008 at 08:45 AM
well mkv files are just "files".  stand alone bdplayer and ps3 cannot play mkvs because it is not a "file" they support.
same as with a BDrom and DVDrom ... if your media player does not have the right codecs, then it will not play. ..   ;D ;D

i guess there won't be any firmware update anytime soon for ps3/stand-alone bd players to support mkvs...
thanks again sir!
 :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 02, 2008 at 08:49 AM
i guess there won't be any firmware update anytime soon for ps3/stand-alone bd players to support mkvs...
thanks again sir!
 :)
nakuh, i doubt it would happen anytime soon ..
barrister posted something about bluray losing money cause of mkv's and dvd upscalers ..  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 03, 2008 at 05:02 PM

unless you can pick me up tomorrow or later at 2pm after work (needs WAF) .. ;D
btw what are we gonna tweak again?  if you want we can reinstall vista on your unit, too bad we are not using the same chipset .. we could easily copy my settings sana .. :(


uy anung settings yan? parehas tyo ng chipset diba?  ;D ;D
btw, nag upgrade ka ng BIOS mo for Emaxx? anu added benefits nun?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 04, 2008 at 04:44 PM
doc tell Clondalkin what happened when we added the .mkv folder to the video folder of vista's media center  :D :D

Purge me of my ignorance as long as the PQ is guaranteed as beautiful as that of MPC with FFDshow or KMP.    :)  If it's too complicated, then tsaka ko na try after I've caught up with my "viewing backlog"   ;D

High def streaming - no thank you.   :)

Have you guys noticed how "tingkad" the MPC with FFDshow PQ looks compared to KMP, or is it just me?  Very busy with MPC lately dahil puro 1080p. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 04, 2008 at 07:36 PM
Has anyone ever thought of using mini ITX motherboards for HTPCs?  I'm thinking of building an inexpensive HTPC based on this:

(http://www.rsun.com.ph/images/products/MOB015.jpg)

TECHNICAL  SPECIFICATIONS     
Processor (included)    Intel Atom 230 (1.6Ghz)
Memory    One 240-pin DDR2 SDRAM Dual Inline Memory Module (DIMM) socket
Support for DDR2 533 MHz and DDR2 400 MHz DIMMs (DDR2 800 MHz and DDR 667 MHz validated to run at 533 MHz only)
Support for up to 2 GB of system memory
Chipsets    Intel 945GC Chipset
Intel 82945GC Graphics Memory Controller Hub
Intel 82801GB I/O Controller Hub
Audio    4-channel (2+2) audio subsystem using the Realtek ALC662 high definition audio codec
Video    Intel GMA950 onboard graphics
Form Factor    Mini-ITX, compatible with microATX (6.75 inches by 6.75 inches)
Legacy I/O Control    SMSC LPC47M997 based Legacy I/O controller for hardware management, serial, parallel, and PS/2 ports
Peripheral Interfaces    6 x USB 2.0 ports
2 x Serial ATA (SATA) headers
1 x serial port
1 x parallel port
1 x Parallel ATA IDE interface with UDMA 33, ATA-66/100 support
PS/2 keyboard and mouse ports
LAN Support    10/100 Mbits/sec LAN subsystem using Realtek RTL8102EL LAN adapter
BIOS    Intel BIOS (resident in the SPI Flash device)
Support for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI), Plug and Play, and SMBIOS



Problem is... VGA out lang sya.  Ok lang ba yun?  I've seen a Zotac mini-ITX motherboard with DVI out in Hardware Magazine but I haven't been able to find one in local computer stores.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Nov 04, 2008 at 08:02 PM
Ok naman ang VGA, madali pang i-configure, matibay pa ang cord mura at madaling bumili, wala ka nng problema sa front projector. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 04, 2008 at 08:16 PM
Problem is... sa LCD TV ko sya ikakabit.  So... VGA to DVI converter and then DVI to HDMI converter?  ???
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Nov 04, 2008 at 11:37 PM
for that specs mukang kap0s sa pag play ng mga MKV's esp 1080p..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 05, 2008 at 08:27 AM
for that specs mukang kap0s sa pag play ng mga MKV's esp 1080p..

Tested a machine running on Intel Atom on some 1080p files.  Di lang kapos.  Sumusuka ng dugo.   Needs Dr. House.  Seriously, please take note. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 05, 2008 at 11:10 AM
I saw an 780G based ITX board last month in tpc. Since its based on the 780G chipset, I think it can handle hidef contents.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 05, 2008 at 12:04 PM
Purge me of my ignorance as long as the PQ is guaranteed as beautiful as that of MPC with FFDshow or KMP.    :)  If it's too complicated, then tsaka ko na try after I've caught up with my "viewing backlog"   ;D
High def streaming - no thank you.   :)
Have you guys noticed how "tingkad" the MPC with FFDshow PQ looks compared to KMP, or is it just me?  Very busy with MPC lately dahil puro 1080p. 

buti ka pa bro .. may "viewing backlog" .. :D
btw we simply added media center in the startup (via task scheduler), plus adding the "HD folder" to its video folder (ala PS3 look, according to doc :D ).. PQ is ok i guess, good enough for me, (lets ask nerveblocker, im sure he's playing with it)  :D :D..

uy anung settings yan? parehas tyo ng chipset diba?  ;D ;D
btw, nag upgrade ka ng BIOS mo for Emaxx? anu added benefits nun?

well its just the order of installing things and settings, plus the codecs and players .. if i were you id get an 80gb permanent system drive (or 160gb) .. if youre to install some programs in it .. then external na yung iba .. :D
btw i have no plans in upgrading my bios for it only fixes the temp reading which we htpc users dont really need .. :)
besides need not to worry about the temps cause i think it was ej who setup your rig in questlogic .. :D

Has anyone ever thought of using mini ITX motherboards for HTPCs?  I'm thinking of building an inexpensive HTPC based on this:

(http://www.rsun.com.ph/images/products/MOB015.jpg)
Problem is... VGA out lang sya.  Ok lang ba yun?  I've seen a Zotac mini-ITX motherboard with DVI out in Hardware Magazine but I haven't been able to find one in local computer stores.

it could prolly run it but not as smooth as our 780g matx motherboard ..
btw you will be surprised how much our htpc cost  8) 8)
i might sell an asus with nvidia chipset for amd, i just need to confirm if its replacement is ok first before i sell it ..
my laptop is better in handling 1080p than that itx board .. ;)

for that specs mukang kap0s sa pag play ng mga MKV's esp 1080p..
Tested a machine running on Intel Atom on some 1080p files.  Di lang kapos.  Sumusuka ng dugo.   Needs Dr. House.  Seriously, please take note. 

i dont know whats wrong with intel, but their gfx sucks bigtime .. :D
although my previous laptop can handle 1080p but there are instance wherein it stutters .. (gfx of my laptop is gma 950) >:(
but the difference is my laptop is using a Dual core processor and not those power saver procs from itx motherboards ..

I saw an 780G based ITX board last month in tpc. Since its based on the 780G chipset, I think it can handle hidef contents.

ahh 100% bro .. it will :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 05, 2008 at 01:52 PM
Tip 1:  XBMC
anybody using XBMC for Windows/Linux?  www.xbmc.org

I've been able to configure my HTPC to work fully with my cdrking PC remote via eventghost.  I can launch/shutdown XBMC, browse my movie/TV/Music server and play almost everything.

PC shutdown is also just one one press of the remote button.

TIP 2:  cheap AC3/DTS SPDIF passthrough
You do not need those multi-thousand peso soundcards if you just want to passthrough your digital streams to your receiver.  If your mobo does not have a SPDIF header or you want a dedicated soundcard for passthrough, just get a cheap 300++ peso CMI 8738 soundcard with spdif (4 or 6 channel does not matter, you wont use the analog out anyway).

I'm using a 5 year old sound card for mine but I think this will work: 
http://www.cdrking.com/local/products/index.php?action=mnu&temp=2&typeno=6534229-360251-375447157-5025981&prod=PCI%20Cards&prodcode=4951023-275162-941683597-9370762

more info:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=d861fb0785b25af606532fb359b39f18&showtopic=49350&st=0
http://code.google.com/p/cmediadrivers/wiki/FAQ

The drivers/software:
http://code.google.com/p/cmediadrivers/
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 06, 2008 at 11:48 AM
@jojitb
thanks for the info regarding the XBMC for windows. Last time I checked ala pa sila release na windows version. Meron na pala ngayon, ma downlaod na nga  :) :) Yung Xbox 1 ko with XBMC ang unang file/movie server ko. ganda nga ng user interface nito, customizable skins pa. I assume same din sa windows version? Also, dami na ba available na codecs, kaya na x264?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2008 at 12:27 PM
jojitb actually the only issues we had with the creative audigy value was the driver support ..
creative was so greedy they wanted us to switch to xfi onwards model for vista ..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 06, 2008 at 01:04 PM

btw you will be surprised how much our htpc cost  8) 8)


Help naman.  What're the specs for the most inexpensive HTPC rig you can think of?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 06, 2008 at 01:13 PM
Help naman.  What're the specs for the most inexpensive HTPC rig you can think of?

Yeah I'd like to know this too Ninjababez.  Specs and price.  Yung walang sinok sa 1080p ne. Thank you!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 06, 2008 at 01:31 PM
Help naman.  What're the specs for the most inexpensive HTPC rig you can think of?
Yeah I'd like to know this too Ninjababez.  Specs and price.  Yung walang sinok sa 1080p ne. Thank you!
Clondalkin nilalagay mo naman ako sa hot seat eh .. :D :D

nerveblocker's setup is good if you want an nVidia chipset .. (pm him for details)  :D
im using the following (ATi based)
AMD 4600+ x2 (AMD 4200 x2 is the recommended)Emaxx 780g (any 780g chipset should do)
2gb ram (atleast)Sata 2 HDD
good codecs and players!  :D
wala ng sinok yan for good hd files! 110%  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 06, 2008 at 05:23 PM
Aww... eh ganun din.  It's like a regular PC. 

Ok sana kung inexpensive talaga and doesn't consume much electricity, para it can double as a torrent rig.  Clondalkin, that Intel Atom-based machine that you tested, ilan yun RAM?

Here's another option that I'm thinking about:

nForce 630i ITX
(http://www.zotac.com/images/stories/products/Mainboards/nForce_630i_ITX/630i-itx%20box-board.jpg)
Chipset
- NVIDIA GeForce 7100
- NVIDIA® nForce 630i

Front Side Bus
- 800/1066/1333MHz FSB (HT Support)

BIOS
- Phoenix (Award) PnP Flash ROM BIOS

Memory
- Two DDRII Sockets Supports up to 4GB (DDRII 800)

I/O Onboard
- One Channel Parallel ATA133 Connector (Support up to 2 Devices)
- Four Serial ATAII Ports
- One HD Audio 5.1 Port (Line-in, Line-out, MIC-in)
- One PS/2 Mouse Port
- One PS/2 Keyboard Port
- One Serial Port (pin header)
- Four USB Ports on Back Panel, Four USB on Pin Header
- One RJ45 Port
- VGA port
- DVI port

LAN
- Onboard 10/100Mb/s

USB
- Integrated in chipset, USB 2.0 x 8

GeForce® 7 series DirectX® 9.0 core
- Integrated Programmable Shader Model 3.0 DirectX 9.0 graphics processor
- Shader Model 3.0 vertex processor
- Shader Model 3.0 pixel processor
- NVIDIA CineFX 3.0 architecture
- NVIDIA Intellisample AA technology
- Integrated DVI output with HDCP key support
- Integrated 24-bit 300MHz RAMDAC.

Hardware Monitoring
- CPU & System Overheat Protection

Board Size
- 170mm x 170mm
- Mini-ITX form factor


With:
Intel Dual Core E5200 2.5Ghz 2MB
2x2GB Kingston DDR2-800
500GB WD HDD SATA


Ok kaya sa HD yan?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 06, 2008 at 05:42 PM

Ok sana kung inexpensive talaga and doesn't consume much electricity, para it can double as a torrent rig.  Clondalkin, that Intel Atom-based machine that you tested, ilan yun RAM?


2GB.  It's not the RAM.  Intel Atom is not optimized for high definition processing. 

Gaano ba kalakas sa koryente ang regular PC?   My wife is using the Dell Dimension 9100, Pentium D 3.0Ghz, full sized desktop, 375W PSU (kinakaya ang ATI HD 3870), eh mukha namang di malakas sa kuryente.  When downloading a torrent, yung hard drive lang naman pinaka-busy, the ATI graphics card is idle.  So kahit gamitin mo low power CPU, wala ring masyadong effect dahil most of the draw is coming from the hard drive access which is almost fixed. 

Gusto mo matipid na torrent downloader na PC, use WD green hard drive then.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 06, 2008 at 05:49 PM
With:
Intel Dual Core E5200 2.5Ghz 2MB
2x2GB Kingston DDR2-800
500GB WD HDD SATA


Ok kaya sa HD yan?

Sa 720p sigurado (anything above P4 is OK).  Sa 1080p maganda chance Bro, but perhaps Ninjababez will say 110%  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Nov 06, 2008 at 11:26 PM
yung zotac na itx ba anong igp nyan? kaya ba ng HD yung igp? i suggest kung mag itx ka, get the one with 780g chipset.. baka kasi kahit powerful yung cpu mo kung bitin naman yung igp baka sinukin din.. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2008 at 06:35 AM
SiCkBoY  setup a new matx htpc instead .. :D
why bother "saving" money on an itx setup, it will just give you frustrations in running HD movies ..
heck my friend even had issues putting multiple HDD for his "torrent box" (intel based)..
stick with our advice bro .. youll never regret it .. besides, how much will you save in getting an itx setup, 2k -4k tops ..
im asking you not to get the itx because i dont want you regretting the purchase and selling it cheaper cause it cant meet your expectations (playing hd movies).  a decent dual core setup is the best option for your needs, get one.  ;)

yung zotac na itx ba anong igp nyan? kaya ba ng HD yung igp? i suggest kung mag itx ka, get the one with 780g chipset.. baka kasi kahit powerful yung cpu mo kung bitin naman yung igp baka sinukin din.. :)

- NVIDIA GeForce 7100 igp bro ... not meant for playing hd movies IMO .. unlike 780g you can tweak it to do the scaling .. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 07, 2008 at 06:40 AM
Ah thanks.  It's really more about the aesthetics than the savings for me.  Kung ilalagay ko kasi sa sala, I'd want it to be as small and as light as possible. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2008 at 06:45 AM
Ah thanks.  It's really more about the aesthetics than the savings for me.  Kung ilalagay ko kasi sa sala, I'd want it to be as small as possible.

get a lianli, silverstone, & zalman casing .. your casing will look like a vcr .. if youre low on budget you can get either gunblade's tower (dont know the brand) or a diva casing like mine .. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 07, 2008 at 10:17 AM
@jojitb
thanks for the info regarding the XBMC for windows. Last time I checked ala pa sila release na windows version. Meron na pala ngayon, ma downlaod na nga  :) :) Yung Xbox 1 ko with XBMC ang unang file/movie server ko. ganda nga ng user interface nito, customizable skins pa. I assume same din sa windows version? Also, dami na ba available na codecs, kaya na x264?

The latest Atlantis version of XBMC (Linux/Windows/OSX/Xbox) is quite stable and can already play almost all videos (hidef or SD) I can throw at it.  In fact I haven't used my XBOX1 for almost a month.

The only caveat right now is that XBMC does not use GPU acceleration for playing videos (although it does utilize dual-core procs).  The suggested specs for playing hiccup-free "birds of planet earth mkv video" is a 3GHz dual core processor (AMD or Intel).  For 720p, I've used an  Athlon X2 2GHz without any problems.

jojitb actually the only issues we had with the creative audigy value was the driver support ..
creative was so greedy they wanted us to switch to xfi onwards model for vista ..

Well, kung HTPC lang naman I would prefer to use XP para less resource intensive. Saka sa mga walang Audigy, a 300 peso alternative is great isn't it?



Help naman.  What're the specs for the most inexpensive HTPC rig you can think of?

ito ang aking el-cheapo XBMC HTPC dream setup.  (PCX Prices unless otherwise stated)

CPU:  Intel E2160     2850  (GAISANO)
MOBO: ECS GF7100PVT-M3     2840 (This has DVI and can be connected to your HDTVs via HDMI to DVI adaptor/cable)
MEM: 2GB Transcend DDR2800     1440
HDD: 1TB WD Green Power     5995 (PCHUB)
CASING:  Icute QS02     1900 (PCHUB or 2k from another seller in TPC)
PSU: 500W Generic     500 (PCHUB)
DVD:  Liteon 20x DVDRW SATA     1320
REMOTE: CDRKING PC Remote     480 (CDRKING)
===============================
TOTAL                   16845

Overclock the E2160 to 3GHz, install XBMC and Eventghost and you will have a low-power, quiet, cheap 1080p HTPC.  Do not overclock if you do not need 1080p yet.  I think this is cheaper that an AMD X2 + 780G setup.  Kung tipid na tipid ka talaga, you can try to get an E1200 (2050pesos @ Gaisano) and OC it also.

My current HTPC is an E2180 at 3GHz and it consumes around 70W (well, Volt-Amperes to be accurate) when playing HD videos. 

I also have a dream torrent downloader/media server setup.  Focus is on file serving speed (gigabit) and power consumption.  But since that is not an HTPC anymore, I don't think I could post it here.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2008 at 10:45 AM
ito ang aking el-cheapo XBMC HTPC dream setup.  (PCX Prices unless otherwise stated)

CPU:  Intel E2160     2850  (GAISANO)
MOBO: ECS GF7100PVT-M3     2840 (This has DVI and can be connected to your HDTVs via HDMI to DVI adaptor/cable)
MEM: 2GB Transcend DDR2800     1440
HDD: 1TB WD Green Power     5995 (PCHUB)
CASING:  Icute QS02     1900 (PCHUB or 2k from another seller in TPC)
PSU: 500W Generic     500 (PCHUB)
DVD:  Liteon 20x DVDRW SATA     1320
REMOTE: CDRKING PC Remote     480 (CDRKING)
===============================
TOTAL                   16845

Overclock the E2160 to 3GHz, install XBMC and Eventghost and you will have a low-power, quiet, cheap 1080p HTPC.  Do not overclock if you do not need 1080p yet.  I think this is cheaper that an AMD X2 + 780G setup.  Kung tipid na tipid ka talaga, you can try to get an E1200 (2050pesos @ Gaisano) and OC it also.

My current HTPC is an E2180 at 3GHz and it consumes around 70W (well, Volt-Amperes to be accurate) when playing HD videos. 

I also have a dream torrent downloader/media server setup.  Focus is on file serving speed (gigabit) and power consumption.  But since that is not an HTPC anymore, I don't think I could post it here.
i wont recommend this on a generic psu .. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 07, 2008 at 10:54 AM
i wont recommend this on a generic psu .. :)

A generic PSU will prolly safely supply 100-150W.  This setup, even if OC'ed most likely won't even get near 150W because the
nvidia onboard video and chipset is quite energy efficient.

But I agree, if you can add a thousand or 2 more pesos get a branded psu.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2008 at 11:03 AM
A generic PSU will prolly safely supply 100-150W.  This setup, even if OC'ed most likely won't even get near 150W because the
nvidia onboard video and chipset is quite energy efficient.
But I agree, if you can add a thousand or 2 more pesos get a branded psu.
ok let me rephrase then, i wont gamble overclocking with a generic psu .. ;)
remember that clocking it higher also raises the temps .. at this point the extra voltage and heat mosfets tend to fry .. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2008 at 02:32 PM
I have downloaded, hooked and tried XBMC for windows. The interface and functions really beats the crap out of windows media center. I am presently running on Vista with both video and audio ouput from HDMI to my receiver. Video playback on mkvs are great and flawless but on audio, it seems it doesn't support ouput via HDMI. I think the digital  output in the audio settings pertain to either coax or optical but not thru HDMI.

So far my Audigy Value soundcard only has drivers for XP. So I am contemplating to reverting back to XP to be able to use my soundcard for XBMC. Definitely buying a newer vista supported soundcard is not an option for me. I just need a digital connection to pass the signals to my receiver.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2008 at 02:46 PM
I have downloaded, hooked and tried XBMC for windows. The interface and functions really beats the crap out of windows media center. I am presently running on Vista with both video and audio ouput from HDMI to my receiver. Video playback on mkvs are great and flawless but on audio, it seems it doesn't support ouput via HDMI. I think the digital  output in the audio settings pertain to either coax or optical but not thru HDMI.
So far my Audigy Value soundcard only has drivers for XP. So I am contemplating to reverting back to XP to be able to use my soundcard for XBMC. Definitely buying a newer vista supported soundcard is not an option for me. I just need a digital connection to pass the signals to my receiver.
according to this (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=38011) doc (although explanation was quite vague), it should work .. experiment mode on sunday .. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2008 at 03:17 PM
according to this (http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?t=38011) doc (although explanation was quite vague), it should work .. experiment mode on sunday .. ;)


It doesn't matter if my OS is XP as long as on start-up XBMC is the one running the show.  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 07, 2008 at 04:33 PM
It doesn't matter if my OS is XP as long as on start-up XBMC is the one running the show.  ;D

Nerveblocker - the time you spend reformatting your system to replace Vista with XP and then reinstall your drivers and applications is more valuable than the cheapest Vista compatible Creative X-fi or any equivalent soundcard.  Besides, don't you think it's about time to have Vista supported soundcard in any of your machines?  - ganda pa ng tunog (kahit walang receiver).     :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2008 at 04:49 PM
I am contemplating on that. Why go backwards when you can go forward, right? I am just weighing my options here. My MOBO has a built in optical out which might save me money than buying a new soundcard. BTW, is a dedicated soundcard better than the built in MOBO SPDIF if I just need the digital output to pass the signals to the AV Receiver which does the decoding?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 07, 2008 at 05:08 PM
BTW, is a dedicated soundcard better than the built in MOBO SPDIF if I just need the digital output to pass the signals to the AV Receiver which does the decoding?

If the AVR does the decoding, I dont think it would make any marked difference whether you use a dedicated soundcard or the on-board one.   How is the sound quality when you connected through the built-in SPDIF?

Question is will your machine be connected to a receiver all the time? 


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 07, 2008 at 05:18 PM
I believe that XBMC uses the default audio device defined in the control panel. 

In order to output sound via HDMI just put the HDMI sound device as your default output.  If you already did that then I do not know what else to do since I am using my CMI soundcard to pass through via spdif. I'm not using HDMI yet.

Actually that is one of the complaints I have against XBMC.  You still cannot define the output device yet.  Unlike in Media Player Classic.  So what I do right now is to use XBMC for analog audio and MPC when I want to use my receiver. 

What I really wanted was to have simultaneous analog output and digital passthrough. Like what we have with ordinary DVD players.  But I guess this is not possible yet. Maybe in the near future XBMC can implement this.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 07, 2008 at 05:30 PM
PQ-wise, which looks more stunning?  MPC or XBMC?   Do they use the same codec?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 07, 2008 at 05:47 PM

ito ang aking el-cheapo XBMC HTPC dream setup.  (PCX Prices unless otherwise stated)

CPU:  Intel E2160     2850  (GAISANO)
MOBO: ECS GF7100PVT-M3     2840 (This has DVI and can be connected to your HDTVs via HDMI to DVI adaptor/cable)
MEM: 2GB Transcend DDR2800     1440
HDD: 1TB WD Green Power     5995 (PCHUB)
CASING:  Icute QS02     1900 (PCHUB or 2k from another seller in TPC)
PSU: 500W Generic     500 (PCHUB)
DVD:  Liteon 20x DVDRW SATA     1320
REMOTE: CDRKING PC Remote     480 (CDRKING)
===============================
TOTAL                   16845


Very nice, bro.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 07, 2008 at 10:45 PM
PQ-wise, which looks more stunning?  MPC or XBMC?   Do they use the same codec?

XBMC uses its own codecs.  default XBMC is better, but since MPC can be configured to use whatever codecs you want, it theoretically could give better PQ.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 08, 2008 at 07:05 AM
I believe that XBMC uses the default audio device defined in the control panel. 
In order to output sound via HDMI just put the HDMI sound device as your default output.  If you already did that then I do not know what else to do since I am using my CMI soundcard to pass through via spdif. I'm not using HDMI yet.
Actually that is one of the complaints I have against XBMC.  You still cannot define the output device yet.  Unlike in Media Player Classic.  So what I do right now is to use XBMC for analog audio and MPC when I want to use my receiver. 
What I really wanted was to have simultaneous analog output and digital passthrough. Like what we have with ordinary DVD players.  But I guess this is not possible yet. Maybe in the near future XBMC can implement this.
i already set it to hdmi, when i was there .. ill check it out on sunday siguro .. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: SiCkBoY on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:12 AM

- NVIDIA GeForce 7100 igp bro ... not meant for playing hd movies IMO .. unlike 780g you can tweak it to do the scaling .. :D

Actually, according to Maximum PC, the Zotac nForce 630i is not a bad feature-set for a compact board, particularly if you're in the market for an HTPC build, where the integrated WiFi could end up a major selling point (and yep, it is for me since the router is right beside the sofa). 

Kaya lang, ang mahal ata masyado  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 09, 2008 at 10:24 AM
Actually, according to Maximum PC, the Zotac nForce 630i is not a bad feature-set for a compact board, particularly if you're in the market for an HTPC build, where the integrated WiFi could end up a major selling point (and yep, it is for me since the router is right beside the sofa). 
Kaya lang, ang mahal ata masyado  :D
hmm .. ill stick with 780g .. that is an older chipset anyway (btw zotac is overpriced and overrated IMO) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: koykoy on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:46 AM
The only caveat right now is that XBMC does not use GPU acceleration for playing videos (although it does utilize dual-core procs).  The suggested specs for playing hiccup-free "birds of planet earth mkv video" is a 3GHz dual core processor (AMD or Intel).  For 720p, I've used an  Athlon X2 2GHz without any problems.

Confirm ko lang if what is a good player that uses GPU acceleration when playing 720p?  I tested a 720p olympic swimming and there are hiccups with VLC but ok naman with Mediaplayer with CoreAVC codecs. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:42 PM
coreavc is also purely software-based but is much more efficient in decoding h.264 than ffdshow. Although picture quality is said to be less also.

to check if your GPU does hardware decoding of h.264 videos, check out this link:
http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2564&Itemid=230&limit=1&limitstart=1

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 10, 2008 at 01:56 PM
Confirm ko lang if what is a good player that uses GPU acceleration when playing 720p?  I tested a 720p olympic swimming and there are hiccups with VLC but ok naman with Mediaplayer with CoreAVC codecs. 

Nvidia series 8 and higher as well as ATI HD 2xxx and higher can help offload the burden from the CPU during playback of HD DVD or BD, but not MKVs.

There are some articles about how to set-up MPC Home Cinema to utilize GPU acceleration but the procedure looks quite complicated for an average user.

 

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:10 PM
if you have a supported GPU, just follow this to use hardware decoding of h.264:

http://ranpha.wordpress.com/page-1/
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 10, 2008 at 02:44 PM
if you have a supported GPU, just follow this to use hardware decoding of h.264:

http://ranpha.wordpress.com/page-1/

Yeah, an avid HTPC user should try this and discuss it PinoyDVD style.  Mukhang madaming issues based on feedback.  I would have dun this already if I were still in my 20s.  I can provide lots of DXVA compliant 1080p contents though.   :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Nov 10, 2008 at 10:54 PM
sirs, in relation to the topic being discussed, may i asked our experts what is really the best player to use in HTPC set-up? Any recommendations best pq and sq? how can i update or install or remove codecs? Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:03 PM
sirs, in relation to the topic being discussed, may i asked our experts what is really the best player to use in HTPC set-up? Any recommendations best pq and sq? how can i update or install or remove codecs? Thanks in advance.

safest bet is media player classic .. :)
but im toggling between KMplayer, media player classic and windows media player .. soon xbmc .. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:09 PM
can this players capable of playing mkv files? how about powerdvd8? i saw some are using this.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:15 PM
can this players capable of playing mkv files? how about powerdvd8? i saw some are using this.
the players i mention are capable .. most players are actually, just make sure you have the codecs to play mkv files .
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 10, 2008 at 11:19 PM
coreavc is also purely software-based but is much more efficient in decoding h.264 than ffdshow. Although picture quality is said to be less also.
to check if your GPU does hardware decoding of h.264 videos, check out this link:
http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2564&Itemid=230&limit=1&limitstart=1

does this mean my IGP cant do Advanced HD Deinterlacing, if im not using a phenom?  ??? ???
Graphics processor

ATI/AMD 780G IGP
[Radeon HD 3200]

VC-1 decode ability 
full

H.264 decode ability 
full 

MPEG-2 decode ability 
advanced

Advanced HD Deinterlacing
Disabled with Athlon 64 family, performs like 3470 with Phenom family.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 11, 2008 at 08:31 AM
sirs, in relation to the topic being discussed, may i asked our experts what is really the best player to use in HTPC set-up? Any recommendations best pq and sq? how can i update or install or remove codecs? Thanks in advance.

Experience tells me I need 3 very good software players to handle all kinds of contents.   These are what I use.

1.  KM Player - most extensive in terms of tweaks and varying looks and absolutely most convenient for subtitle re-sync (a must for my queen).

2.  MPC - Arguably the best looking default PQ when using good codecs (latest version of FFDshow for instance).  Clearly more efficient than KMP when handling very high bit rate 1080p contents. 

3.  PowerDVD7 for HD DVD or DVD playback only.  It will also play BD if I have one.


For non high def contents, WMP has very good PQ and SQ.   Subtitle is a little bit complicated though.  If you need subtitle, use KMP or MPC instead.

For SQ, just make sure to download and install AC3Filter so that your software player will be able to decode multi-channel audio properly.  For KMP, you dont have to set anything but for MPC, you have to configure it properly.

Codec installation is very simple. Just download and install the latest FFDshow or CCCP (whichever you prefer).  No need to change any settings, unless you are curious and would want to play around.  Para malinis, install the codecs last (that is, after you install the software players).


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jackryan on Nov 14, 2008 at 10:05 AM

Quick question, has anyone tried using a virtualization software such as VMWare or MS VirtualServer to have various configuration for their media center software on their HTPC? Will this work and offer another way of encapsulating the media player and operating system combinations?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitv on Nov 18, 2008 at 12:20 PM
Anybody knows where I can buy an SPDIF header connector for the motherboard so I can connect it to my receiver digitally? Thanks. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitb on Nov 18, 2008 at 02:57 PM
hello tukayo. 

kung wala kang mabili,you have 2 options:
1. if you have a defective dvd player, you can get the spdif coax and the optical connectors. 
2. get a female coax connector from any hardware store. drill a hole, copnnect the connector.  get a spare cd-drive audio cable and use that  to connect the connector to the mobo header.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Nov 18, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Anybody knows where I can buy an SPDIF header connector for the motherboard so I can connect it to my receiver digitally? Thanks. :)

I saw someone in tpc selling those coax headers. You may want to check it out here (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2605791)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitv on Nov 19, 2008 at 05:52 AM
hello tukayo. 

kung wala kang mabili,you have 2 options:
1. if you have a defective dvd player, you can get the spdif coax and the optical connectors. 
2. get a female coax connector from any hardware store. drill a hole, copnnect the connector.  get a spare cd-drive audio cable and use that  to connect the connector to the mobo header.

I saw someone in tpc selling those coax headers. You may want to check it out here (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2605791)

Thanks guys. Will check out your suggestions.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: koykoy on Nov 19, 2008 at 06:40 PM
quick questions lang po mga bossings (though i posted this also at the pv8 bang thread)

1. how do you guys connect a pc source assuming there is no hdmi in the video card? vga or dvi-hdmi?
2. for those with plasma tv, would it be right to set the resolution of the pc to 1024x768 (plasma native) or something else?
3. can you still enjoy 720p with vga?  or may notable difference na if mag hdmi nalang
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitv on Nov 20, 2008 at 09:56 AM
quick questions lang po mga bossings (though i posted this also at the pv8 bang thread)

1. how do you guys connect a pc source assuming there is no hdmi in the video card? vga or dvi-hdmi?
2. for those with plasma tv, would it be right to set the resolution of the pc to 1024x768 (plasma native) or something else?
3. can you still enjoy 720p with vga?  or may notable difference na if mag hdmi nalang

To answer your questions...

1. I use VGA.
2. I'm using an LCD tv and I set it to 1368 x 768 to preserve it's aspect ratio and not looked stretched. And it's also the maximum resolution supported by my tv.
3. Yup, though I can't really compare since my pc doesn't have an hdmi connection.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 20, 2008 at 10:18 AM
quick questions lang po mga bossings (though i posted this also at the pv8 bang thread)

1. how do you guys connect a pc source assuming there is no hdmi in the video card? vga or dvi-hdmi?
2. for those with plasma tv, would it be right to set the resolution of the pc to 1024x768 (plasma native) or something else?
3. can you still enjoy 720p with vga?  or may notable difference na if mag hdmi nalang

1.  Use VGA, Component/D-Terminal and DVI-HDMI for MKV depende sa HDTV.   For the CRT HDTV - D-Terminal via the HDTV Out of the ATI card;  For the LCD - straight DVI;  For the Plasma pede pareho VGA and HDMI (using the DVI/HDMI dongle provided by ATI).

2.  Set it to the native resolution of the plasma, ASSUMING, your card supports that.  Problem with non-full HD plasma, usually walang exactly same setting available in your card.  Just find what looks best with your 1024x768 panel - movies will be fine, but regular computing would probably strain your eyes.

3.  Of course. Pati nga original HD DVD napapalabas ko through VGA (I dont have BD).  Until now, Panasonic suggests that VGA is the "default" PC connection port - analog connection on a digital TV.   "Notable" is hard to quantify and qualify.  But there is difference if you look for it (especially when looking at crispness of letters and pictures - but for moving image, initally lang, and then the eyes get adjusted after a while).

If you watch original BD or HD DVD and connect through any digital connection, your monitor must be HDCP compliant.  If not, switch to analog.

 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Niknok on Nov 20, 2008 at 12:20 PM
mga bros,

i need some advise.  ive been much into watching divx movies lately, the usual non-HD kind, mostly 700MB and coded in stereo, a few in AC3.  i usually play them via my sony DVD/HTiB to a bravia 32" but getting weary burning discs.  I saw this small formfactor IBM thinkcentre at SOS surplus at 5.5K running a P4 2.8GHz(?), 256MB Mem, 80GB.  I can probably upgrade the memory to 512 or 1GB and I already have USB HDDs so I dont need to upgrade the HDD.  Do you think this will be a good HTPC to play the divx files without stuttering? how about the HD Divx (H264/X264 ba yun?), will it play ok?  the thinkcentre is black and will fit nicely into the piano black theme of bravia...do you think this is a good buy?

buying a new PC is out of the equation right now...i think i will need 15K up for a minimum spec setup for that.  and i dont have a budget for that.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Nov 20, 2008 at 07:03 PM
mga bros,

i need some advise.  ive been much into watching divx movies lately, the usual non-HD kind, mostly 700MB and coded in stereo, a few in AC3.  i usually play them via my sony DVD/HTiB to a bravia 32" but getting weary burning discs.  I saw this small formfactor IBM thinkcentre at SOS surplus at 5.5K running a P4 2.8GHz(?), 256MB Mem, 80GB.  I can probably upgrade the memory to 512 or 1GB and I already have USB HDDs so I dont need to upgrade the HDD.  Do you think this will be a good HTPC to play the divx files without stuttering? how about the HD Divx (H264/X264 ba yun?), will it play ok?  the thinkcentre is black and will fit nicely into the piano black theme of bravia...do you think this is a good buy?

buying a new PC is out of the equation right now...i think i will need 15K up for a minimum spec setup for that.  and i dont have a budget for that.

yep. enough power to play those divx. my 24/7 torrent-rig (netvista celeron 1.8ghz, 256mb) can play divx flawlessly even utorrent is running and downloading those 1080p/720p MKV's..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 21, 2008 at 06:27 AM
mga bros,

i need some advise.  ive been much into watching divx movies lately, the usual non-HD kind, mostly 700MB and coded in stereo, a few in AC3.  i usually play them via my sony DVD/HTiB to a bravia 32" but getting weary burning discs.  I saw this small formfactor IBM thinkcentre at SOS surplus at 5.5K running a P4 2.8GHz(?), 256MB Mem, 80GB.  I can probably upgrade the memory to 512 or 1GB and I already have USB HDDs so I dont need to upgrade the HDD.  Do you think this will be a good HTPC to play the divx files without stuttering? how about the HD Divx (H264/X264 ba yun?), will it play ok?  the thinkcentre is black and will fit nicely into the piano black theme of bravia...do you think this is a good buy?

buying a new PC is out of the equation right now...i think i will need 15K up for a minimum spec setup for that.  and i dont have a budget for that.

I had a Fujitsu P4 1.6GHz before and it played my Divx,Xvid, AVI, VOB files flawlessly.  If you are just going to play SD contents, with a tight budget, I guess that rig you are eyeing is good enough.  Just buy a soundcard with SPDIF out to attach to your receiver for those files with AC3.  Just make sure that the USB outputs are already 2.0 coz the one I got before had only 1.1.  This would be very important if you are transferring large files.  The onboard memory was only 512MB and I had to upgrade it to 1GB i.e. if you can still find RAM cards that are DDR1 (they are more expensive too compared to the newer ones). 

Just test first the rig as you bought it without changing anything.  If it doesn't hiccup on any of your video files, i suggest that you don't change or upgrade anything anymore.  These prebuilt PCs are made up of a combination of parts to function well with its given power supply.  You might have problems later with incompatibilities of parts if you desire to upgrade any of the components.       
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 21, 2008 at 08:12 AM
mga bros,

i need some advise.  ive been much into watching divx movies lately, the usual non-HD kind, mostly 700MB and coded in stereo, a few in AC3.  i usually play them via my sony DVD/HTiB to a bravia 32" but getting weary burning discs.  I saw this small formfactor IBM thinkcentre at SOS surplus at 5.5K running a P4 2.8GHz(?), 256MB Mem, 80GB.  I can probably upgrade the memory to 512 or 1GB and I already have USB HDDs so I dont need to upgrade the HDD.  Do you think this will be a good HTPC to play the divx files without stuttering? how about the HD Divx (H264/X264 ba yun?), will it play ok?  the thinkcentre is black and will fit nicely into the piano black theme of bravia...do you think this is a good buy?

buying a new PC is out of the equation right now...i think i will need 15K up for a minimum spec setup for that.  and i dont have a budget for that.

I would suggest that you try to be patient , do with what you have right now, and try to save more money to get a better PC that would last you longer.    When it comes to personal PC purchase, I dont think it's wise to spend your savings on a practically obsolete hardware.  You'll only get very disappointed once you realize it's limitations and limited upgrade options.  Kung purely business application, ok pa.

But yeah, it will play avi and divx.  Might not be able to handle high def though - and that's what you should be watching with your Bravia.



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Nov 21, 2008 at 09:14 AM
mga bros,

i need some advise.  ive been much into watching divx movies lately, the usual non-HD kind, mostly 700MB and coded in stereo, a few in AC3.  i usually play them via my sony DVD/HTiB to a bravia 32" but getting weary burning discs.  I saw this small formfactor IBM thinkcentre at SOS surplus at 5.5K running a P4 2.8GHz(?), 256MB Mem, 80GB.  I can probably upgrade the memory to 512 or 1GB and I already have USB HDDs so I dont need to upgrade the HDD.  Do you think this will be a good HTPC to play the divx files without stuttering? how about the HD Divx (H264/X264 ba yun?), will it play ok?  the thinkcentre is black and will fit nicely into the piano black theme of bravia...do you think this is a good buy?

buying a new PC is out of the equation right now...i think i will need 15K up for a minimum spec setup for that.  and i dont have a budget for that.

6 months ago, I ordered 3 desktops at a shop in Gilmore,with a 2.8 Dual Core processor, 80G HDD, Asus MoBo,complete with LG DVD writer and they threw in a floopy disk reader with free keyboard,mouse and AVR.....all for 9.5K. ;D

That was 6 months ago.....it's probably cheaper now. ;)

Honestly...I find the surplus products of SOS and HMR expensive, the ones being victamized are those who didn't do a proper research. If you buy one of those, you'll end up with garbage in about 6 months, but if you'd spend and try to revive the P4 2.8.....you'll end up with a higher cost after 6 months. for e.g. the DDR RAM is more expensive that the DDR2, their Video card is the limited expandable AGP cards, IDE HDD is more expensive than SATA..etc.

However, in the end, it's still your choice.  :-\

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Niknok on Nov 21, 2008 at 10:11 AM
wow thanks for the very valuable and informative advise.  hindi ako nagkamali na dito sa pdvd magtanong. 

sometimes the itch is too hard not to scratch, in this case buying a good looking and cheap PC, but obsolete.  your inputs are like caladryl, medyo nabawasan yung kati...hehehe

im not totally scrapping the idea though, 5.5k PC is good enough for me to throw down the drain if it can serve me maybe 3 years with the current HT rig i have.

here's some thoughts:

1.  i dont want just any PC, it has to blend well with my current setup.  I actually removed my other gear (silver-colored old dvd player, VCR, compo, etc) because i like the simple look of just the LCD and a HTiB.  so even if there are better deals for PCs out there i wont be attracted to it unless its as small as a VCR and black.  im even willing to pay a little extra for the look.

2. So finding a slim formfactor HTPC is tops on the requirement list.  the ACER x3200 at 16K+ looked to be the winner but i realized its overkill just to watch SD Divx and play music,  when a 5.5K  used Thinkcentre (which I think looks just as good as the ACER) can do the job.  I didnt mention the ACER in my first post because im sure most will be biased for it.  you see with 10K saved with an old PC, i can almost buy a 1HP aircon for xmas...

3.  i realized the bravia home theater is very limited with music...the DAV-DZ270K which i use dont have tone controls (or equalizer) or dsp...and worst of all, it adds a 2sec gap between mp3 tracks...so i find myself burning to audioCDs just to remove the 2sec gaps or connect my laptop or ipod to play music.  not cool.

there you go...somebody pls convince me to buy the acer... ;)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 21, 2008 at 10:30 AM
Sticking here in pinoydvd would later convince you to go HD specially when you get to see HD contents played on your Bravia. In my experience, once I've tried HD I wouldn't want to go SD anymore. Until when can you hold the itch to go HD? Pinoydvd will scratch it for you. 

Better yet save for a rig that can play HD contents already and don't settle for SD. You can send Ninjababez a pm for a cost efficient HTPC that won't burn a hole in your pocket. You can go for the Acer X3200 and can ask users such as Alfie for advise. Anyway, these prebuilt PCs can be had on installment basis.   ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2008 at 11:13 AM
Anybody knows where I can buy an SPDIF header connector for the motherboard so I can connect it to my receiver digitally? Thanks. :)
I saw someone in tpc selling those coax headers. You may want to check it out here (http://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=2605791)


ok na seller yan si XPC42 .. i have an extra bracket with me, if you want DIY natin dito sa apartment, since testing mo lang naman (makati) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2008 at 11:21 AM
wow thanks for the very valuable and informative advise.  hindi ako nagkamali na dito sa pdvd magtanong. 

sometimes the itch is too hard not to scratch, in this case buying a good looking and cheap PC, but obsolete.  your inputs are like caladryl, medyo nabawasan yung kati...hehehe

im not totally scrapping the idea though, 5.5k PC is good enough for me to throw down the drain if it can serve me maybe 3 years with the current HT rig i have.

here's some thoughts:

1.  i dont want just any PC, it has to blend well with my current setup.  I actually removed my other gear (silver-colored old dvd player, VCR, compo, etc) because i like the simple look of just the LCD and a HTiB.  so even if there are better deals for PCs out there i wont be attracted to it unless its as small as a VCR and black.  im even willing to pay a little extra for the look.

2. So finding a slim formfactor HTPC is tops on the requirement list.  the ACER x3200 at 16K+ looked to be the winner but i realized its overkill just to watch SD Divx and play music,  when a 5.5K  used Thinkcentre (which I think looks just as good as the ACER) can do the job.  I didnt mention the ACER in my first post because im sure most will be biased for it.  you see with 10K saved with an old PC, i can almost buy a 1HP aircon for xmas...

3.  i realized the bravia home theater is very limited with music...the DAV-DZ270K which i use dont have tone controls (or equalizer) or dsp...and worst of all, it adds a 2sec gap between mp3 tracks...so i find myself burning to audioCDs just to remove the 2sec gaps or connect my laptop or ipod to play music.  not cool.

there you go...somebody pls convince me to buy the acer... ;)



save 15k and ill do the rest for you ;) 
tip: sell your old hardware
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: docelmo on Nov 27, 2008 at 07:55 PM
Sirs,
How to tweak the audio settings, I am using a giga 780G mobo via optical to the avr...

when i play the same dvd on the dvdrom drive using powerdvd and then on the pio696...the audio
output is weak on my htpc....this is very evident dun sa "echo dance" scene sa Flying Daggers.
Pano dapat setting para maging pareho ang tunog...both are using the same cable...

TIA!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 28, 2008 at 04:10 AM
Sirs,
How to tweak the audio settings, I am using a giga 780G mobo via optical to the avr...

when i play the same dvd on the dvdrom drive using powerdvd and then on the pio696...the audio
output is weak on my htpc....this is very evident dun sa "echo dance" scene sa Flying Daggers.
Pano dapat setting para maging pareho ang tunog...both are using the same cable...

TIA!

Have you checked your AVR if it is outputting the digital signals i.e. either DD or DTS?  It might be processing analog signals only such as DPL2.  While your HTPC is playing, toggle with the surround modes of your AVR.  Baka naka-DSP lang or something.

Another problem is that if you have an HDMI connection from your HTPC to your AVR.  It might be passing through analog signals through the HDMI and not from your optical connection.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: docelmo on Nov 28, 2008 at 09:13 AM
Have you checked your AVR if it is outputting the digital signals i.e. either DD or DTS?  It might be processing analog signals only such as DPL2.  While your HTPC is playing, toggle with the surround modes of your AVR.  Baka naka-DSP lang or something.

Another problem is that if you have an HDMI connection from your HTPC to your AVR.  It might be passing through analog signals through the HDMI and not from your optical connection.



Yes, output is "DTS" from the htpc to the onkyo...but still there is a significant difference in sound reproduction...

The HDMi is connected to the pj...

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: docelmo on Nov 28, 2008 at 04:39 PM
Yes, output is "DTS" from the htpc to the onkyo...but still there is a significant difference in sound reproduction...

The HDMi is connected to the pj...

Thanks!

Yung RealtekHD audio, meron bass management settings...ilan db dapat ang setting for fronts, center, surrounds and sub?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 28, 2008 at 09:17 PM
Put the volume of your media player to maximum then adjust the main volume of your PC to approximate the output of your dvd player.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: buhakee on Dec 01, 2008 at 10:21 PM
Sticking here in pinoydvd would later convince you to go HD specially when you get to see HD contents played on your Bravia. In my experience, once I've tried HD I wouldn't want to go SD anymore. Until when can you hold the itch to go HD? Pinoydvd will scratch it for you. 

Better yet save for a rig that can play HD contents already and don't settle for SD. You can send Ninjababez a pm for a cost efficient HTPC that won't burn a hole in your pocket. You can go for the Acer X3200 and can ask users such as Alfie for advise. Anyway, these prebuilt PCs can be had on installment basis.   ;)

i agree, once you sample HD content, you wouldn't want to go back to SD DVD hehehe...i used to be content with my upscaling pio dv600, but when i saw an HD movie from an HTPC, i was convinced...i am also in the process of building an HTPC slowly...very slowly....hahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 02, 2008 at 11:16 AM
i agree, once you sample HD content, you wouldn't want to go back to SD DVD hehehe...i used to be content with my upscaling pio dv600, but when i saw an HD movie from an HTPC, i was convinced...i am also in the process of building an HTPC slowly...very slowly....hahaha
for all you your htpc needs .. questlogic (http://pinoydvd.com/board/index.php?topic=88143.msg921938#msg921938)
just look for ej and franz for advice and bang for the buck setup  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: deo on Jan 23, 2009 at 09:46 PM
mga prends, meron ba may alam sa inyo pano palabasin ung subtitle ng mkv movie sa windows media center? sa xmbc meron eh...kaso pag dating sa media center wala :( may kailangan bang install? ??? thanks! ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitv on Jan 29, 2009 at 12:02 PM
What's the maximum recommended length for a VGA cable? I'm planning on moving my PC farther away from the TV. TIA. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: deo on Jan 30, 2009 at 10:38 AM
What's the maximum recommended length for a VGA cable? I'm planning on moving my PC farther away from the TV. TIA. :)
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-projectors/2668-how-long-can-vga-cable-run.html

gano ba ka haba? sa office naman wlang problema dati diba, naka kabit ung laptop sa projector sa training room pag nag memeeting tayo. ok naman kahit mahaba...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitv on Jan 30, 2009 at 01:15 PM
http://www.hometheatershack.com/forums/home-theater-projectors/2668-how-long-can-vga-cable-run.html

gano ba ka haba? sa office naman wlang problema dati diba, naka kabit ung laptop sa projector sa training room pag nag memeeting tayo. ok naman kahit mahaba...

Mga 5meters lang naman. Naisip ko lang kasi na baka may signal loss na pag medyo mahaba. Thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 01, 2009 at 03:28 AM
Mga 5meters lang naman. Naisip ko lang kasi na baka may signal loss na pag medyo mahaba. Thanks.
vga is susceptible to loss, but 5 meters is tolerable IMO.  just make sure you dont get your cables from cdrking.
i tried around 5 pcs on their shelf, all had distortion .. >:(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jojitv on Feb 01, 2009 at 08:48 AM
vga is susceptible to loss, but 5 meters is tolerable IMO.  just make sure you dont get your cables from cdrking.
i tried around 5 pcs on their shelf, all had distortion .. >:(

Thanks for the info sir. I'm thinking of getting this cable from monoprice.com. It's a vga cable w/ audio cable included.

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5388/5602vf8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us) :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 01, 2009 at 09:03 AM
Thanks for the info sir. I'm thinking of getting this cable from monoprice.com. It's a vga cable w/ audio cable included.

(http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5388/5602vf8.jpg) (http://imageshack.us) :)
kewl, hdmi analog version  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: klpangan on Feb 02, 2009 at 11:38 PM
mga sir help po using KMPLAYER setup is HTPC connected to HTIB via OPTICAL CABLE... problem is minsan may tunog ung rear ko minsan wala... paano ko po mamaximize ung settings nito do i need the HTIB to drive the sound or dun ako sa HTPC ko magedit ng sounds... napapansin ko minsan nasa dolby ung logo ng player ko minsan naman na dts pero same pa rin wala pa rin sound ang rear.... tsaka dapat ba mas malakas ung rear and center sa front?? or dapat center malakas and equal ang front and rear?? help po thnx...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2009 at 01:58 PM
check the ac3 filter settings
my settings

(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1205/31512048zv7.jpg)

click here (http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/1205/31512048zv7.jpg)

btw it is normal for some parts of a dts or dd film not to produce sounds in the rear.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: klpangan on Feb 03, 2009 at 04:09 PM
sir kung mga axxo rip na movies lang play ko actually avi pa lang kasi mga meron ako pede ko ba ma simulate ung 5.1 nun ee....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 03, 2009 at 11:36 PM
sir kung mga axxo rip na movies lang play ko actually avi pa lang kasi mga meron ako pede ko ba ma simulate ung 5.1 nun ee....
prologic :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Feb 04, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Pro Logic II, depends on your Amplifier, some Pro Logic II sounds a lot better than the compressed DD 5.1  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 04, 2009 at 10:01 PM
Pro Logic II, depends on your Amplifier, some Pro Logic II sounds a lot better than the compressed DD 5.1  ;) ;D
and i thought i was the only one :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Feb 05, 2009 at 12:24 PM
To be objective about it, It's because the amplifier will be the one to convert your audio to DPLII, unlike some DD5.1 encodes, which were poorly done and since it's a compressed digital file, the amplifier will only interpret whatever data file has been encoded with a fixed set.

As an analogy, one is upconverting, the other is merely exhibiting. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dinoalbert on Feb 05, 2009 at 06:01 PM
Hi. Im using my PC as HTPC....so it is now placed below the 32" LCDTV which is for movie viewing lang sa sala. However I am still using it with my work and games pero ginagamit ko yung 22" LCD monitor for it. Kaya lang malayo ang working table ko (with the 22" LCD monitor) sa HTPC, mga 5 meters sa bandang kaliwa.

Question is.....saan ako makakabili ng 5 meters na DVI cable? Nakikita ko kse 3 meters lang baka bitin sayang lang pag binili ko.

Also may mabibili bang mahabang USB cable extender para nadun sa mman mouse at keyboard ko? Para minimal expense lang....expensive na kse pag bumili pa ako ng wireless keyboard+mouse wala pang budget :)


Thanks...

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 05, 2009 at 06:46 PM
^ Try to look at tpc, worst case if there is no 5meters dvi cable available , I was able to see a 5 meter dvi-hdmi cable there.

For the USB extender, is 5 meters enough? CDRking has them
here (http://cdrking.com/local/products/index.php?action=submnu&temp=2&typeno=8176890-373780-839110596-1439562&prod=USB%20Cables&prodcode=9700352-991120-109966408-8351710)

Good luck  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dinoalbert on Feb 05, 2009 at 09:03 PM
Thank you sir!

Ayus talaga ang CDRKing hehe. Sana meron sila din 5m na DVI cable.

I checked already TPC, meron lang nagbebenta 3 meters lang wala ako nakikita na 5m.

Problema kase ang monitor ko walang HDMI...DVI lang.

Ang HTPC ko naman may 2 DVI ports pero 1 HDMI port lang...which is ginagamit ko para sa LCDTV (HDMI-HDMI cable)

So DVI-DVI nalang ang pwede para sa PC to monitor ko :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Feb 06, 2009 at 01:29 PM
^ Pag wala ka nakita dvi na 5 meters, pede mo try itong expensive route, 5m na dvi-hdmi cable then bili ka ng hdmi-dvi adapter para maging dvi-dvi na  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dinoalbert on Feb 09, 2009 at 04:48 PM
@gun,

Naka-isip ako ng ibang solution. Mas nilapit ko na sa monitor ko ang CPU.....pero mas malayo na sya sa LCDTV ko na nasa sala.

So what I did is use a 5-meter HDMI cable (bought from Electronics Botique at Park Square) to connect the PC to the LCDTV.

Then I used a couple of 10-meter Audio Extension cable (from Ace Hardware Park Square) to connect my speakers na naka-setup malapit sa LCDTV sa sala.

Ang weird lang pag ginagamit ko ang PC to play games, ang sound nya nasa sala at malayo sa akin hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Feb 09, 2009 at 06:59 PM
Mga sirs ..patulong naman po...

meron akong PC O.S. nya is vista business...Video Card ko is Radeon HD 3870 X2...Motherboard ko is Gigabyte X48-DQ6...Processor ko is Quad core 2.66

question ko lang po is bakit pag checheck ko yung graphics settings ---> Dedicated Video Memory ang lumalabas ay 512mb lang imbis na 1gig dapat?

salamat po..:)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 10, 2009 at 06:07 AM
Dedicated Video Memory ang lumalabas ay 512mb lang imbis na 1gig dapat?
salamat po..:)
are you using a 64bit or 32bit OS ?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 10, 2009 at 06:16 AM
I just noticed that playback of video files specially mkvs in HTPC is still better than playback in my WDTV.  I have an HP Goblet of Fire 1080p mkv when played in my WDTV, had a lot of audio dropouts but when I played it in my HTPC...flawless.  ;D  I just dunno the playability of other NMTs though as compared to an HTPC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 10, 2009 at 09:16 AM
I just noticed that playback of video files specially mkvs in HTPC is still better than playback in my WDTV.  I have an HP Goblet of Fire 1080p mkv when played in my WDTV, had a lot of audio dropouts but when I played it in my HTPC...flawless.  ;D  I just dunno the playability of other NMTs though as compared to an HTPC.

Do you likewise observe certain issues with the WDTV when playing DXVA compliant 1080p files?   Thanks.

I'm very curious about direct comparisons between an NMT and PC as well.   Sino nga bang member ang user ng NMT and 1080p-capable PC? 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Feb 10, 2009 at 09:32 AM
The Acer X3200 seems to be the one with the minimal specs that can meet 1080p DXVA compliant files, together with coreavc codecs.

....and as what I have posted in different threads, don't expect much from the WDTV, it was designed mainly for axxo files, and if you're into MKV, nothing beats the HTPC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Feb 10, 2009 at 10:47 AM
+ 1 to sir Alfie.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dinoalbert on Feb 10, 2009 at 02:08 PM
....and as what I have posted in different threads, don't expect much from the WDTV, it was designed mainly for axxo files, and if you're into MKV, nothing beats the HTPC.

will that be applicable for Egreat, too?

thats why until now I cant decide which NMT to buy :( I think WDTV is now out of the picture for me....its down to Egreat or PCH
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HKS on Feb 10, 2009 at 02:14 PM
mga sir, anong recommended niyo na sound card for a good HTPC rig. Creative X-Fi?

do i still need a good sound card if gagamit din ako ng Denon 1909 receiver?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 10, 2009 at 02:37 PM
mga sir, anong recommended niyo na sound card for a good HTPC rig. Creative X-Fi?

do i still need a good sound card if gagamit din ako ng Denon 1909 receiver?

if your receiver has hdmi i recommend any motherboard + ati 4670 + amd x2
if your receiver has no hdmi but has coax then 780g emaxx + amd x2
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HKS on Feb 10, 2009 at 02:44 PM
if your receiver has hdmi i recommend any motherboard + ati 4670 + amd x2
if your receiver has no hdmi but has coax then 780g emaxx + amd x2

sir i believe the Denon 1909 has 3 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output.
since it has HDMI, i don't need to get a separate soundcard like the Creative X-Fi?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 10, 2009 at 03:58 PM
sir i believe the Denon 1909 has 3 HDMI inputs and 1 HDMI output.
since it has HDMI, i don't need to get a separate soundcard like the Creative X-Fi?

Ang point is ma-i-labas mo ng maayos yung buong soundstream from your PC to the receiver whether it be via HDMI or optical or "brute force" (as in analog).  So if the built-in sound of your mobo is capable of that, you dont need to buy a discrete sound card.  Magiging "redundant" lang yung Creative X-Fi between the PC and the receiver in that particular configuration.

Pero kung gusto mo ng magandang sound by simply connecting to a regular 2.1 or 5.1 PC speakers, then yun ang advantage ng cards such as that of Creative or Onkyo kase may sarili silang decoder.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Feb 10, 2009 at 04:16 PM
are you using a 64bit or 32bit OS ?

32bit po..pero parang alam ko na kung bakit..yung video card ko is dalawa yung GPU nya na tig-512mb...para daw yun sa mga ati crossfire na games...
hindi ko lang sure kung tama ako..

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 11, 2009 at 05:58 AM
32bit po..pero parang alam ko na kung bakit..yung video card ko is dalawa yung GPU nya na tig-512mb...para daw yun sa mga ati crossfire na games...
hindi ko lang sure kung tama ako..

your answer is wrong but, the answer is already on your post  :)
OS limitation  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: andre on Feb 11, 2009 at 06:44 AM
Its the other way around, I notice My Acer x3200 plays better than WD media player.

WD no resume function when totally off. Grrrr...

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 12, 2009 at 09:36 AM
Available na ang CoreAVC 1.9.0.  You guys may want to give it a try - especially those having some playback problems. 

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 12, 2009 at 09:39 AM
Available na ang CoreAVC 1.9.0.  You guys may want to give it a try - especially those having some playback problems. 
im still using the one that you gave me .. :)  (no playback issues so far :D )
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 12, 2009 at 09:41 AM
im still using the one that you gave me .. :)  (no playback issues so far :D )

Ako rin walang problem sa Ver. 1.8.5 so perhaps I wont detect any difference if I try Ver. 1.9.0.  But for those still having problems even with Ver. 1.8.5, this may be the solution.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 12, 2009 at 09:48 AM
Ako rin walang problem sa Ver. 1.8.5 so perhaps I wont detect any difference if I try Ver. 1.9.0.  But for those still having problems even with Ver. 1.8.5, this may be the solution.
ill try this on my gfs intel laptop since i have issues whenever im moving the mouse (slight hiccups :D )
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: deo on Feb 20, 2009 at 12:01 PM
im still using the one that you gave me .. :)  (no playback issues so far :D )

pa send naman [email protected] :)  my synch problem pa rin ako..pati sa MPC, nauuna video, pero unti-unti nag ssynch after a couple of seconds... ano ba kailangan kong install? ffdshow+ac3 filters lang, right? ???
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: darkpalosx on Apr 22, 2009 at 05:19 AM
nagkamali ako post dito ata ito dapat

just got a samsung t260hd lcd tv monitor,mamya makuha ko na yung new rig ko for htpc purposes.
ask ko lang since sa room na maliit ko lang gagamitin both,ok na ko sa built in speaker ng tv,although meron akong lumang atp3,so kung me hd movies ako na dts audio e pano ko maiioutput yun sa tv? plan to use hdmi.

pc specs:
amd 5200
gigabyte 780g-ud3h
seagate 500gb
extreem dark 4gb
lg dvdrw
generic casing w/psu
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Apr 22, 2009 at 09:47 AM
Ang alam ko, iyun' HDMI nang Gigabyte, pasok kaagad sa audio, kaya kabit mo lang tapos hanapin mo sa control panel mo ang audio out mo, clikc mo ang HDMI.

Kung mag-ka-kabit ka naman nang Videocard katulad nang 9400 pataas na may HDMI, ang dapat i-sak-sak mo rin ang HDMI digital jumper(tama ba iyun') tapos ang i-cli-click mo ay ang Digital out.

Sa PC basta na-install mo ang K-Lite Codecs O' CCP(Tama ba iyun' naglan ?) ang DTS ay auto-converted, kung ayaw naman pa-pask ka lang sa software at ma-ki-kita mo ka-agad ang DTS, i-check click mo lang auto-convert na iyun'.

Enjoy. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dyerds on Apr 26, 2009 at 04:45 PM
When using dts in ffdshow audio , I encounter a synch problem with my player. I already uninstall the player and re-install it again but the same goes. What could be the problem? I'm using MPC HC. TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: et414 on Apr 26, 2009 at 09:07 PM
try using reclock
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dyerds on Apr 26, 2009 at 10:22 PM
What's reclock?  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: et414 on Apr 26, 2009 at 10:34 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=719041
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on May 19, 2009 at 03:54 PM
can a standard def DVD be upscaled in an HTPC setting? 

or this is an impossibility  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: otepsy on May 19, 2009 at 04:07 PM
can a standard def DVD be upscaled in an HTPC setting? 


XBMC upscales better than my Pioneer DV600 (ayon sa aking paningin lamang, try nyo rin) just don't forget to set SD Upscaling (Settings>Video>Player: High Quality Software Scaling = Enabled; Upscaling Method = Bicubic)..

 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on May 19, 2009 at 04:23 PM
talaga? I've noticed video tearing with XBMC on both 720p & 1080p which are not present with kmp

will try that. thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on May 20, 2009 at 08:42 AM
Try Media Portal instead. It is working perfectly with my set-up.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on May 20, 2009 at 09:22 AM
Try Media Portal instead. It is working perfectly with my set-up.

can this be used also to make my Lite-on dvd rom region free? can't get my copies of anydvd to work on my pc  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on May 20, 2009 at 10:46 AM
if your DVD ROM is a Liteon, it is very easy to make it region free;  all you have to do is look for the RPC1 firmware.

I remember downloading a particular firmware(I just cannot remember it's name now) from afterdawn, it's easy to find just goggle it.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on May 20, 2009 at 03:46 PM
can this be used also to make my Lite-on dvd rom region free? can't get my copies of anydvd to work on my pc  :-\

Intriguing Bro. Dowals. Ive beeen able to rip HD DVDs with that version of AnyDVD but I havent ripped a DVD for more than 3 years now.  Baka mas reliable pa yung lumang versions ng AnyDVD.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on May 20, 2009 at 05:40 PM
I checked my PC at home, for Liteon download KProbe, it has the RPC1 firmware
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on May 20, 2009 at 09:49 PM
Intriguing Bro. Dowals. Ive beeen able to rip HD DVDs with that version of AnyDVD but I havent ripped a DVD for more than 3 years now.  Baka mas reliable pa yung lumang versions ng AnyDVD.

I'm getting the message trial period expired, registration file doesn't seem to be working. or may mali lang ako sa pag install? thanks

I checked my PC at home, for Liteon download KProbe, it has the RPC1 firmware

i will try to find one, will it work on all liteon models? thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on Jun 08, 2009 at 10:58 PM
check-out my item: Asrock ION 330 -- NVDIA 9400M + Atom 330 Dual Core [Windows 7 Ready]

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=96949.0

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Jul 12, 2009 at 08:05 AM
mga sirs sa inyong opinion ano ang magandang pci soundcard for 5.1 analog connection to amp?

another question, san pwede makabili locally ng auzentech prelude sound card?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 30, 2009 at 11:00 PM
mga sirs sa inyong opinion ano ang magandang pci soundcard for 5.1 analog connection to amp?

another question, san pwede makabili locally ng auzentech prelude sound card?
try www.tipidpc.com
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AlvinladeN on Oct 01, 2009 at 12:03 PM
meron bang gumagamit ng powerdvd? sa powerdvd kasi kaya mag decode ng dolby digital hd and dts hd pag nag play ka ng bluray. in this way pwede nating ma experience ang dolby digital hd and dts hd w/o using a capable receiver, analog nga lang right?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 03, 2009 at 01:22 PM
Anyone familiar with Arcsoft's Total Media Theatre 3 (TMT3)?   Been watching some straight BD rips recently and I'd like to ask for tweaks to rectify jerky playback (if there are any).

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 04, 2009 at 09:17 AM
Anyone familiar with Arcsoft's Total Media Theatre 3 (TMT3)?   Been watching some straight BD rips recently and I'd like to ask for tweaks to rectify jerky playback (if there are any).

My theory so far is that the high bitstream HD audio is too much of a burden on the PC's on-board sound circuit.    I think it would help a lot if the audio is simply passed through to an HD compliant AVR (which I dont have), or perhaps use a dedicated sooundcard that has efficient HD audio decoding (which I dont have either).  It has been an interesting experiment with pure BD rips though.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 09, 2009 at 07:55 AM
Update on playback of pure BD rips.

KMP + CoreAVC plays m2ts files SMOOTH as it can be,

BUT

My PC does not support HD audiostream - audio output is via SPDIF which seems to be limited to 1.5Mbs.    ACFilter is set to pass-through all soundstreams but it can't handle HD audiostreams.

So I can watch pure BD rips but with German, French, Spanish and some other European languages in AC3 5.1. sound.    ;D :( ;D :( ;D :(

At least this is hopeful because one part of the equation is already solved.   And the IQ is absolutely fantastic  Any suggestions on the HD soundstreams?

BTW, Total Theatre Media 3 can downmix HD soundstream to DTS, DD and even stereo.  Problem with TMT3 is jerky playback.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 09, 2009 at 09:46 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3994872635_1bab3153e0.jpg)

My new HTPC

Specs:
MoBo: EMAXX EMX-ANF82HD-PRO
RAM: Geil 1GB x 2 DDR2
HDD: Samsung 320GB HDD
Casing: Astone Flex casing w/ power supply
Processor: AMD X2 5000
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVDRW

Software:

Media Portal Media Center
VLC Media Player
Windows Media Player 11
Core AVC
Haali Media Splitter
Daemon Tools
Direct X10
AC3 Filter

 ;)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunblade977 on Oct 09, 2009 at 10:20 PM
^ganda ng casing doc!

musta ang media portal?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 10, 2009 at 06:48 AM
^ganda ng casing doc!

musta ang media portal?

Thanks bro! Still tinkering with mediaportal.  The internal player with coreAVC isn't bad i.e. if you just want a straightforward installation without an external player.  You're right. It's better than XBMC and less CPU usage.   ;D 

I just think the MOBO has a say on the playback of SD and moreso HD files.  This one has smoother playback on my old AMD X2 5000 proc using XBMC than my ASUS mobo.   ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 10, 2009 at 08:47 AM
Hi Nerveblocker.  How much is this new rig?  It looks very neat.

Im surprised you still havent configured KMP with Media Portal yet because VLC is very inefficient - although very very flexible in terms of playback capability.

Ive been thinking of building a really simple but very powerful HTPC and I kinda fancy the AMD Phenom II chips.  Grabe mura compared to Intel's i7.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Oct 10, 2009 at 09:04 AM
@Clondalkin, probably under 15K  :) as far as i know, the ANF82HD-PRO is cheaper than the 780g, someone gave me feedback also that games are more playable with the on board nVidia GF8200.

@Nerveblocker, how much is the casing sir?



what's the difference between the following:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 - (low end?)
AMD Athlon II X2 - (mid?)
AMD Phenom II X2 - (high?)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 10, 2009 at 04:53 PM
Hi Nerveblocker.  How much is this new rig?  It looks very neat.

Here is the breakdown as far as I remember:

MoBo: EMAXX EMX-ANF82HD-PRO -                P2700
RAM: Geil 1GB x 2 DDR2 -                                P1800
HDD: Samsung 320GB HDD -                         P2500
Casing: Astone Flex casing w/ power supply - P1600
Processor: AMD X2 5000 -                              P2500
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVDRW -                       P1400
                                                                     __________
                                                                       P12500


Im surprised you still havent configured KMP with Media Portal yet because VLC is very inefficient - although very very flexible in terms of playback capability


Sir, what do you mean by VLC as being inefficient?  VLC has been my main media player in Ubuntu and I am familiar with its control settings already that's why I paired it with Media Portal. It is also customizable with different skins you can experiment with. So far I'm happy with its performance.  ;)

I'll try to download KMP and install it with your special sauce.  I might like it better.  ;D   
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 10, 2009 at 06:59 PM
Here is the breakdown as far as I remember:

MoBo: EMAXX EMX-ANF82HD-PRO -                P2700
RAM: Geil 1GB x 2 DDR2 -                                P1800
HDD: Samsung 320GB HDD -                         P2500
Casing: Astone Flex casing w/ power supply - P1600
Processor: AMD X2 5000 -                              P2500
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVDRW -                       P1400
                                                                     __________
                                                                       P12500

Sir, what do you mean by VLC as being inefficient?  VLC has been my main media player in Ubuntu and I am familiar with its control settings already that's why I paired it with Media Portal. It is also customizable with different skins you can experiment with. So far I'm happy with its performance.  ;)

I'll try to download KMP and install it with your special sauce.  I might like it better.  ;D  

This probably goes to show my ignorance of the merits of Linux.  

Anyhow, it is a common feedback among Windows users how much of a power hog VLC  is relative to other popular software players. VLC was actually the 1st player I tried when I first got hold of high def MKV in early 2007.  It was great of course (coming from DVD) but when I tried playing 1080p files, then it was all jerky and stuttery no matter what fix I tried.  So I tried KMP, MPC and GOM - all of which were able to handle 1080p contents smoothly using the same hardware - with seemingly better codecs - resulting to arguably better IQ and SQ.

Going back to Linux, Im truly amazed that VLC + Media Portal combination performs very well because if I were to imagine such set-up under Windows, that would be like putting a fruit basket on top of a hog.   Thus, Linux must be a remarkably efficient OS in the first place.   Too bad I cant live without Windows based applications.

      
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 10, 2009 at 08:00 PM

Going back to Linux, Im truly amazed that VLC + Media Portal combination performs very well because if I were to imagine such set-up under Windows, that would be like putting a fruit basket on top of a hog.   Thus, Linux must be a remarkably efficient OS in the first place.   Too bad I cant live without Windows based applications.

Sorry sir but I am using Mediaportal + VLC in WinXP.  There is no Linux version of Mediaportal.  I have been using VLC though in Linux Ubuntu playing 1080p files flawlessly.  I just wanted to use Mediaportal with VLC that's why I had to use Windows just for this purpose. 

Media Centers available in Ubuntu are XBMC and Moovida.  XBMC sucks playing mkvs in Linux.  Moovida is ok but it doesn't have any flexibility in playing videos.   You can't even change the aspect ratio of your movies to fit your screen very much like the WDTV.  The only good thing with Moovida are its plugins such as youtube and internet radio. 

In a short note, Windows still is the winner when it comes to making the PC as an entertainment hub.  Hope this clarify things.    ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 13, 2009 at 09:37 AM
In a short note, Windows still is the winner when it comes to making the PC as an entertainment hub.  Hope this clarify things.    ;D

Thanks for the clarification Nerveblocker. You just made me happier with my windows based systems.   :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: scaglietti on Oct 22, 2009 at 02:41 PM
hi guys, if you have to choose one, which system would you buy.
1. Acer Aspire Revo R3600 1L ultra small PC with nVidia ION Graphics, HDMI
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo)
2. Acer Aspire X1200 - Small Form Factor Desktop CPU
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/X1200 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/X1200)
3. NMT (preferably a powerful one, maybe xtreamer, hdpro or tvix)

Do you think the specs of the acer is enough to play those gigantic, power hungry mkvs?  That's my main concern. Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: andlisten on Oct 22, 2009 at 04:59 PM
hi guys, if you have to choose one, which system would you buy.

I'll choose 2. Acer Aspire X1200 - Small Form Factor Desktop CPU
bec of higher CPU of 2.9 GHz dual core which you can use for gaming too.
but if it is intended to HT only, I will choose NMT (no hassle on remote, wife and kids friendly too) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: scaglietti on Oct 22, 2009 at 05:14 PM
yes its for HT use only.  My only concern is the playability of most, if not all mkv files.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: andlisten on Oct 22, 2009 at 05:40 PM
yes its for HT use only.  My only concern is the playability of most, if not all mkv files.

If you have enough budget then go for top of the line NMT like Popcorn Hour C200, it has bluray rom provision and loaded of features too. I read from other forum that it plays  MKV well with large file like The God Father Trilogy with 80 Gb size. but other NMTs can do it also, just read the reviews and you may test before you buy if you have the files. 8)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: obelix on Oct 23, 2009 at 01:16 AM
hi guys, if you have to choose one, which system would you buy.
1. Acer Aspire Revo R3600 1L ultra small PC with nVidia ION Graphics, HDMI
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo)
2. Acer Aspire X1200 - Small Form Factor Desktop CPU
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/X1200 (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/X1200)
3. NMT (preferably a powerful one, maybe xtreamer, hdpro or tvix)

Do you think the specs of the acer is enough to play those gigantic, power hungry mkvs?  That's my main concern. Thanks!
there was a review of the revo in gizmodo a while back... you can read it here: http://gizmodo.com/5204432/acer-revo-and-nvidia-ion-hands-on-flawless-blu+ray-playback-changes-cheap-computers-forever
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Oct 23, 2009 at 03:14 PM
yes its for HT use only.  My only concern is the playability of most, if not all mkv files.

I use the X3200 and it plays all my MKV files, and to think that the processor is only the 64X2 5000...so in principle, the X1200 can perform better.  ;) ;D

BTW....my C2D PCs plays all sans any hiccups, even with an entry level video card, so I'm now confirming(via my experience) that it's really the processor that matters. ;) ;D

So in essence, when deciding...go for the better processor. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 23, 2009 at 10:59 PM
but best route is getting an ati 4650 or higher vga card.
safest route is getting a good processor + the right codec and player.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Oct 24, 2009 at 09:09 AM
but best route is getting an ati 4650 or higher vga card.
safest route is getting a good processor + the right codec and player.


I don't think this will work on the Aspire Revo, here's the link;
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: scaglietti on Oct 24, 2009 at 10:38 AM
so mas ok yung acer x1200?  Judging the specs, do you think its enough to play those power hungry mkvs?  Should I add more RAM?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Oct 24, 2009 at 05:25 PM
No need for RAM, the processor is adequate enough,as long as you place the right mix of codecs, however it will be better if you'll upgrade to Phenom(but why will you do that since your X1200 will turn more expensive).

I'd rather build one much like what Nerveblocker did it only cost him 12K, with a cute Astone casing, and known MoBo
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Oct 24, 2009 at 05:28 PM
Follow up, eto' iyun' kay Nerveblocker.
pag 17K, naka Phenom ka na...kahit Bluray ang ikabit mo....smooth pa din. ;) ;D

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3450/3994872635_1bab3153e0.jpg)

My new HTPC

Specs:
MoBo: EMAXX EMX-ANF82HD-PRO
RAM: Geil 1GB x 2 DDR2
HDD: Samsung 320GB HDD
Casing: Astone Flex casing w/ power supply
Processor: AMD X2 5000
Optical Drive: Lite-on DVDRW

Software:

Media Portal Media Center
VLC Media Player
Windows Media Player 11
Core AVC
Haali Media Splitter
Daemon Tools
Direct X10
AC3 Filter

 ;)


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: kolokoys on Oct 24, 2009 at 09:33 PM
Follow up, eto' iyun' kay Nerveblocker.
pag 17K, naka Phenom ka na...kahit Bluray ang ikabit mo....smooth pa din. ;) ;D


bro ask ko lng, no problem naman sa 720p/1080p mkv files ung onboard vcard nung emaxx mobo??
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: scaglietti on Oct 25, 2009 at 04:03 AM
will that case fit a standard psu, lets say 500-550 watt?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Oct 25, 2009 at 06:39 AM
Quote
bro ask ko lng, no problem naman sa 720p/1080p mkv files ung onboard vcard nung emaxx mobo??

Basta HTPC ang importante ay ang processor, ang video graphic nang games nang nga-nga-ilangan nang >256mb video card.

Quote
will that case fit a standard psu, lets say 500-550 watt?

I don't know, you better PM Nerveblocker for that; however, the X1200 and X3200 only has a 220watts power supply,since the trend for HTPC is low power consumption. in fact I believe the Revo R3600 that comes with the nVidia ION Graphics even boast of a smaller wattage.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: carlhenry on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:19 PM
i think the revo is equipped with the 9400gt. grabe ang galing and mura. i saw sa youtube naglalaro sya ng COD 4. anyway, i dunno about watching movies kasi pag malakas sa gaming (revo) then okay sya sa other apps in my opinion. acer x3200 mejo alanganin sya sa COD 4, so basa basa lang ng reviews muna dude and hanap ka rin ng videos sa youtube about revo playback capabilities. GL!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:51 PM
I don't think this will work on the Aspire Revo, here's the link;
http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/Acer_Aspire_R3600_Revo)
my bad, i thought it was one of those desktop computers.  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:56 PM
i think the revo is equipped with the 9400gt. grabe ang galing and mura. i saw sa youtube naglalaro sya ng COD 4. anyway, i dunno about watching movies kasi pag malakas sa gaming (revo) then okay sya sa other apps in my opinion. acer x3200 mejo alanganin sya sa COD 4, so basa basa lang ng reviews muna dude and hanap ka rin ng videos sa youtube about revo playback capabilities. GL!
sana may shops na pwedeng mag-demo, without restrictions.  like installing softwares that your planning to use etc.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 26, 2009 at 10:57 PM
bro ask ko lng, no problem naman sa 720p/1080p mkv files ung onboard vcard nung emaxx mobo??
my previous setup was an x2 4600+ amd.  no issues after installing the "right codec".  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Oct 28, 2009 at 10:17 AM
I would have to guess that the Emaxx desktop mobo has a more powerful built-in graphics than my wife's C2D Toshiba laptop having the Intel GMA 450MHD integrated graphics.

I sucessfully watched the 81GB Godfather Eureka monster using that laptop during the weekend using KMP + CoreAVC for stress testing (the built-in decoder of KMP Ver 1435 couldn't handle that particular file - other 1080ps are OK though).   

The raw power of the CPU and the right codecs are the most critical indeed.  Kaya wag kayong magtipid sa CPU. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 28, 2009 at 08:00 PM
I would have to guess that the Emaxx desktop mobo has a more powerful built-in graphics than my wife's C2D Toshiba laptop having the Intel GMA 450MHD integrated graphics.

I sucessfully watched the 81GB Godfather Eureka monster using that laptop during the weekend using KMP + CoreAVC for stress testing (the built-in decoder of KMP Ver 1435 couldn't handle that particular file - other 1080ps are OK though).   

The raw power of the CPU and the right codecs are the most critical indeed.  Kaya wag kayong magtipid sa CPU. 
few months back, i installed "the recipe" on my gfs' laptop (core duo) with intel 4500 vga.  kayang kaya  :)
although it was running windows xp at that time with 2gb of ram.   :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 06, 2009 at 07:34 PM
bro ask ko lng, no problem naman sa 720p/1080p mkv files ung onboard vcard nung emaxx mobo??

So far no problems with the softwares installed on my 4.5GB 720p and 8.5GB 1080p files.  I haven't tried on bigger file sizes though coz I don't have any.

Do other background processes such as your antivirus affect playability of your HD files?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 07, 2009 at 12:06 AM
Do other background processes such as your antivirus affect playability of your HD files?
theoretically YES doc, maliban nalang kung yung quad core ang gamitin mo ;D .  but if youre using the "right stuff" it should be ok.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 07, 2009 at 01:36 PM
theoretically YES doc, maliban nalang kung yung quad core ang gamitin mo ;D .  but if youre using the "right stuff" it should be ok.

Thanks bro for the tip.  Siguro disable nalang antivirus para swabe.  Still using the AMD dual core.   ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 08, 2009 at 07:09 AM
I have an existing P4 2.66GHz, if i remember correctly, it's socket LGA775.   Can i upgrade my processor with this one?

Intel Dual Core E5300 2.6Ghz (http://rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=CPU456)

will there be a significant improvement in performance? in relation to 1080p playback. 
using kmp (+ ext codec) 720p is playable in this setup, although sinisinok minsan.   

TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 08, 2009 at 10:01 AM
I have an existing P4 2.66GHz, if i remember correctly, it's socket LGA775.   Can i upgrade my processor with this one?

Intel Dual Core E5300 2.6Ghz (http://rsun.com.ph/view_item.php?item=CPU456)

will there be a significant improvement in performance? in relation to 1080p playback. 
using kmp (+ ext codec) 720p is playable in this setup, although sinisinok minsan.   

TIA
anong mobo bro?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 08, 2009 at 01:04 PM
anong mobo bro?

it's a 4 year old foxconn 661FX mobo, as i remember right socket LGA775

can't find the box, but this is the model or close to it ~ Foxconn (http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/motherboards/chipset.aspx?socket_id=en-us0000002&chipset_id=en-us0000018&Socket=Socket+775&Chipset=SiS+661FX)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 08, 2009 at 07:44 PM
...I have an existing P4 2.66GHz, if i remember correctly, it's socket LGA775.   Can i upgrade my processor with this one?

If your mobo is like 4 years old, very low chance of success because when the C2D's were commercialized in 2006, Intel released new sets of corresponding chipsets as well, which are suitable for the much higher IPC (instructions per clock) of the C2D.

The surest upgrade path is via a new mobo.   
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 08, 2009 at 07:57 PM
thanks bro, that would mean a new pc.  The only parts i can use from this existing desktop is the tower case & dvdrom drive  :-\ 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 08, 2009 at 08:00 PM
I dont know about AMD based systems but as for C2D powered ones, I have not noticed any effect on playback by any background processes since I started using C2D running on Vista Home Premium in early 2007 with NIS installed.  The latest NIS is actually too light and quiet, making me feel rather suspicious if it's actually running.

As for activities/applications that affect playability, that would include NLE and transcoding because they are so CPU resource intensive.  Also contiguous access of the HDD at full speed (as in the case of file management) where the same playback file is stored can be disturbing to the media player and the torrent speed.  However, torrenting on its own does not affect playback because the transfer of data is not that fast to use up all available bandwidth (Ive seen torrent DL speeds nearing 10MB/sec which is really fast on its own, but still significantly slower relative to USB2.0 and ESata transfer rates).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 08, 2009 at 08:04 PM
thanks bro, that would mean a new pc.  The only parts i can use from this existing desktop is the tower case & dvdrom drive  :-\ 

Keep the old system as is and stick with 720p and SD avi. 

When the time comes, just build an entirely new system from scratch.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 08, 2009 at 08:13 PM
thanks. a new system would cost 12K, so i'll probably keep this one for now  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 08, 2009 at 08:19 PM
thanks. a new system would cost 12K, so i'll probably keep this one for now  :)

Kung meron lang TALAGA sanang 7K na NMT or media player na kasing reliable ng PC ne.   :)   Hopefully the new ones.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 09, 2009 at 04:53 AM
a new system would cost 12K, so i'll probably keep this one for now  :)
YES, thats the best thing to do now.  :)
your mobo does not seem to support C2D's  :(
and it has an agp slot and DDR1, so it means 2-3 technologies back na sya and that's too far behind .. :)

btw if it does accept c2ds (for some reason), youll have a bottleneck on the RAM part .. hth
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 21, 2009 at 12:13 AM
Unfortunately, my 5 year old foxconn mobo died on me a few days ago, i now have a legit reason for the upgrade  :-\
my newly resurrected desktop:

mobo: Emaxx ANF82HD-Pro GF8200 (new)
procie: Athlon II X2 240 2.8ghz (new)
hdd: 40gb ide (recycled)
ram: 1gb kingston ddr2 667 (recycled)
psu: generic 500W (recycled)
dvdrom: LG ide (recycled)

I had low hopes of 1080p playback due to the limited ram & the ide hdd.  I have tried an episode of Band of Brothers 1080p, playback seems to be flawless in my limited testing.  It's running on XP, kmp + CoreAVC  ;D

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 22, 2009 at 10:31 AM
Unfortunately, my 5 year old foxconn mobo died on me a few days ago, i now have a legit reason for the upgrade  :-\
my newly resurrected desktop:

I had low hopes of 1080p playback due to the limited ram & the ide hdd.  I have tried an episode of Band of Brothers 1080p, playback seems to be flawless in my limited testing.  It's running on XP, kmp + CoreAVC  ;D

Uy this is very impressive Dowals.   Nice job!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 23, 2009 at 09:16 AM
Uy this is very impressive Dowals.   Nice job!

thanks bro, but i've been itching to get another 1gb ram & a new sata hdd  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: av_phile1 on Nov 23, 2009 at 01:48 PM
Unfortunately, my 5 year old foxconn mobo died on me a few days ago, i now have a legit reason for the upgrade  :-\
my newly resurrected desktop:

mobo: Emaxx ANF82HD-Pro GF8200 (new)
procie: Athlon II X2 240 2.8ghz (new)
hdd: 40gb ide (recycled)
ram: 1gb kingston ddr2 667 (recycled)
psu: generic 500W (recycled)
dvdrom: LG ide (recycled)

I had low hopes of 1080p playback due to the limited ram & the ide hdd.  I have tried an episode of Band of Brothers 1080p, playback seems to be flawless in my limited testing.  It's running on XP, kmp + CoreAVC  ;D



Video playback is more CPU intensive, not so much on RAM. 1GB is just fine.   You can verify that with the Windows Task Manager while playing a video file.  Just don't run complex apps in the background or concurrently when playing.  I only have 1Gb RAM and an old 2.4 Ghz dual core processor running XP sp2.  1080p movies files play just fine even on a full 1080p monitor.  No dedicated video card.  

Then get a 500GB or 1TB hdd.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:26 AM
@av_phile1: upgraded the 1gb kingston to a 2gb Geil Dual Channel & i got a 640gb WD green which i partitioned to 160gb (OS), the rest was for storage

i saw a spare enclosure for the 40gb ide, pang emergency backup, kaya lang napaka laki   ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:36 AM
@av_phile1: upgraded the 1gb kingston to a 2gb Geil Dual Channel & i got a 640gb WD green which i partitioned to 160gb (OS), the rest was for storage

i saw a spare enclosure for the 40gb ide, pang emergency backup, kaya lang napaka laki   ;D
why not use the 40gb ide as you OS drive?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 25, 2009 at 05:07 AM
bro ninj, i need bigger space for OS to accommodate the gb hungry games that my son likes to play
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 27, 2009 at 01:59 PM
anyone here using the "special recipe", aside from me and Clondalkin?
notice some pixelation on some new mkv downloadables (e.g. moon, inglorious basterds*, gforce*HDEX)?
cant tell if theyre the same encoders since my inglorious basterds does not say who encoded it (katamad hanapin :D )checked hdbits and found out that im not the only one having the issue, 2 na kami .. :D :D
anyways, since these new downloadables run fine on media player classic, i just use it (mplayer classic) to play "incompatible" mkvs.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:28 AM
mobo: Emaxx ANF82HD-Pro GF8200 (new)
procie: Athlon II X2 240 2.8ghz (new)

bought a Palit 9500GT 1GB DDR2 for my son's gaming, i've noticed that PQ is inferior compared to my ATI based pc, is there a special tweak this for card? this is our first nVIDIA card   
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 29, 2009 at 09:48 AM
bought a Palit 9500GT 1GB DDR2 for my son's gaming, i've noticed that PQ is inferior compared to my ATI based pc, is there a special tweak this for card? this is our first nVIDIA card   

So it's still true?   Nvidia is fast but ATI is beautiful? 

But Bro, I think the 9500GT would not in any way be at par with your HD4770.  ;)

Anyway, just make sure to install the latest driver from Nvidia site instead of the one stored in the CD that came with your 9500.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Nov 29, 2009 at 05:52 PM
way too far from the HD4770 bro, very noticeable in playing Call of Duty 4 MW

I will try to get the latest driver from nVIDIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 01, 2009 at 05:39 PM
question regarding PSUs

I'm using a Hec WinPower+ 550W connected to a (realible) 500W AVR, is this ok? Higher rated psu connected to a lower rated AVR?

TIA  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 02, 2009 at 06:39 AM
question regarding PSUs

I'm using a Hec WinPower+ 550W connected to a (realible) 500W AVR, is this ok? Higher rated psu connected to a lower rated AVR?

TIA  :)
may peak ratings naman yung mga voltage regulator bro eh.
bihira yung rig umabot ng ganyan consumption ng constant  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 02, 2009 at 07:43 AM
question regarding PSUs

I'm using a Hec WinPower+ 550W connected to a (realible) 500W AVR, is this ok? Higher rated psu connected to a lower rated AVR?

TIA  :)

Ideally, your circuit protection should be rated higher than your protected equipment.  

But in reality, your PC (based on your configuration) would not consume higher than 500W even during heavy 3D gaming.    Since the PSU would only draw as much line power it needs to supply the requirements of the PC at any given time, and if your AVR is reliable, your present set-up should be safe enough.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 02, 2009 at 10:19 AM
thanks ninja & clondalkin

 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paquito_chips on Dec 03, 2009 at 01:29 AM
anyone using this? -- http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=75666.msg776554#msg776554 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=75666.msg776554#msg776554)

if this has been posted some pages ago re: my questions below, please point me to that page. may nahanap din ako similar topic sa geektonic site but i want to reaffirm with you guys na rin.

i already pm'd glacierfrost pero his last post was 2008 pa (boss glacier, reply ka rin dito).

i have my tv in the living room.  my plan is to have my htpc tucked away in another room para malinis tingnan sa sala.  i can't afford to buy those long (5 meters & up) hdmi cables that would reach the other room.  i would rather have that liberty of splicing and crimping a cat5/6 cable and extend it to the htpc. also, if the pc would be transferred to another room, it would be pretty easy to setup the cat5/6 cable run along the walls.

2 q's:

1. baka may alam kayo kung san pwede makabili nito locally. how much kaya?

2. to those who tried it, is there really no loss to the quality when viewing HD movies? 

thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 03, 2009 at 03:44 AM
anyone using this? -- http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=75666.msg776554#msg776554 (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=75666.msg776554#msg776554)

if this has been posted some pages ago re: my questions below, please point me to that page. may nahanap din ako similar topic sa geektonic site but i want to reaffirm with you guys na rin.

i already pm'd glacierfrost pero his last post was 2008 pa (boss glacier, reply ka rin dito).

i have my tv in the living room.  my plan is to have my htpc tucked away in another room para malinis tingnan sa sala.  i can't afford to buy those long (5 meters & up) hdmi cables that would reach the other room.  i would rather have that liberty of splicing and crimping a cat5/6 cable and extend it to the htpc. also, if the pc would be transferred to another room, it would be pretty easy to setup the cat5/6 cable run along the walls.

2 q's:

1. baka may alam kayo kung san pwede makabili nito locally. how much kaya?

2. to those who tried it, is there really no loss to the quality when viewing HD movies? 

thanks.
why not pm TOY 01, he can order it online for you.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: obelix on Dec 03, 2009 at 05:01 AM
why not purchase sa ebay?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paquito_chips on Dec 03, 2009 at 06:47 AM
why not pm TOY 01, he can order it online for you.  ;)

why not purchase sa ebay?

uy. pwede! salamat mga bossing!  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 03, 2009 at 09:27 AM
bro ninj, i need bigger space for OS to accommodate the gb hungry games that my son likes to play

It's always a good idea to have a physically separate HDD just for OS and page filing.

Also a good idea to have a physically separate HDD for your kid's gaming.  The reasons escape me at this time as I read about it years ago.  I think it has something to do with the amazing things your kid can do with the PC that could one day ruin the HDD so that all your data in it could be lost forever.   ;D  I have my music files in a separate physical drive and has saved me worries in the past when the HDD containing the OS crushed irreparably.  It happened when my son was playing Doom.  It just froze then went blue and couldn't get rebooted.  I hate to think what I would have done if all my music files went with it.  It's even more unthinkable when it comes to HD movies that took so long to rip or download.   That's why I also have a separate hdd exclusive to movie files.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 03, 2009 at 10:11 AM
But the thing is, with 500GB, 640GB or even 1TB HDD becoming the standard primary drive for PCs, you'd never be able to fill that much capacity with OS and applications.

All my desktops have 500GB primary drive with just one primary partition.   No problem at all. With SATA tech, practically plug & play nalang ang HDD (not the OS but the access to other files contained in the drive through multiple PCs) - all you need is a dock.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 03, 2009 at 10:12 AM
I was actually thinking about that that issue the other day. I have partitioned the 640gb, one for OS & the rest for son's school stuff & some avi files.

I have a separate hdd for the more important files


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 06, 2009 at 10:46 AM
Tip.

There have been many complaints about blocky playback of some new encodes/titles when using CoreAVC as codec.

A very effective solution is to switch to FFDShow for movies exhibiting such issues.  Hence keep this codec as well as CoreAVC installed in your PC.  The switching between these codecs is quite straightforward and the two of them do not seem to conflict with each other.    Do note that CoreAVC is still observed to be more efficient especially when playing high bitstream files, but, and there is a but, FFDshow rendering appears to be more vibrant in terms of color; so it's up to you to decide which codec to set as default.

Internal codecs of software players may also solve the blocky IQ under CoreAVC but 1080p movies may stutter badly in case your CPU is not powerful enough.

So just remember that it's not the file. It's the codec.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: av_phile1 on Dec 06, 2009 at 08:05 PM
But the thing is, with 500GB, 640GB or even 1TB HDD becoming the standard primary drive for PCs, you'd never be able to fill that much capacity with OS and applications.

All my desktops have 500GB primary drive with just one primary partition.   No problem at all. With SATA tech, practically plug & play nalang ang HDD (not the OS but the access to other files contained in the drive through multiple PCs) - all you need is a dock.



I was thinking more about older hard drives.  those with 120GB or 180GB which you can still get in many shops selling second hand PC parts.  What I have is a legacy one from an old PC I had back in 2004. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: air ween on Dec 07, 2009 at 01:01 AM
guys, repost ko lang po.. salamat po sa mga magrereply.. :)

hello po.. its been awhile since i last posted here sa thread.. my last post as far as i can remember was when i asked for an advise if ill be getting this units:

22 inch AOC LCD Monitor
q6600 intel quadcore 2.4ghs for every core
geforce 9600gt 1ghz
2gb ddr2 RAM
gigabyte motherboard
320 sata drive
HEX Power Supply

for 20k, which I did but we settled 25.. now, balak ko na sya ibenta.. i will be including an original OS (Windows Vista Home Premium), additional 2g DDR2 RAM and an external DVD writer. mga magkano ko po kaya sya pwede ibenta? I settled with E-great nalang kasi and I'm planing to buy a laptop nalang to free-up space sa room. actually nanghihinayang din akong ibenta pero gusto ko talagang maglaptop nalang eh since di ko naman namamaximize yung power nya for gaming, since may ps3 naman ako and more on browsing/downloading lang, or as HTPC..
thanks po sa magiging inputs. Wink
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 07, 2009 at 01:31 PM
guys, repost ko lang po.. salamat po sa mga magrereply.. :)

hello po.. its been awhile since i last posted here sa thread.. my last post as far as i can remember was when i asked for an advise if ill be getting this units:

22 inch AOC LCD Monitor
q6600 intel quadcore 2.4ghs for every core
geforce 9600gt 1ghz
2gb ddr2 RAM
gigabyte motherboard
320 sata drive
HEX Power Supply

for 20k, which I did but we settled 25.. now, balak ko na sya ibenta.. i will be including an original OS (Windows Vista Home Premium), additional 2g DDR2 RAM and an external DVD writer. mga magkano ko po kaya sya pwede ibenta? I settled with E-great nalang kasi and I'm planing to buy a laptop nalang to free-up space sa room. actually nanghihinayang din akong ibenta pero gusto ko talagang maglaptop nalang eh since di ko naman namamaximize yung power nya for gaming, since may ps3 naman ako and more on browsing/downloading lang, or as HTPC..
thanks po sa magiging inputs. Wink
check tipidpc.com para magka-idea ka kung magkano presyo nyan ngayon.
btw for 20k pwede na, pero di parin murang-mura  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 09, 2009 at 04:18 AM
Does anyone have experience with Tosh Satellite Turion X2 2.0Ghz's? i'm having issues with 1080p's
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 09, 2009 at 08:08 AM
Does anyone have experience with Tosh Satellite Turion X2 2.0Ghz's? i'm having issues with 1080p's
ei bro, are you using the special recipe while trying this out?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 09, 2009 at 02:49 PM
ei bro, are you using the special recipe while trying this out?

yes bro, special sauce configured properly, as far as i know this particular tosh unit has onboard ATI 3100

di nya kaya talaga kaya?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 10, 2009 at 01:56 PM
yes bro, special sauce configured properly, as far as i know this particular tosh unit has onboard ATI 3100

di nya kaya talaga kaya?
it should work.  what is the OS again?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 11, 2009 at 04:08 AM
OS is Vista, i will try to tweak the special sauce further this weekend using the guide from project htpc.

there must be conflict somewhere, 1080p's video is delayed 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 11, 2009 at 04:41 AM
OS is Vista, i will try to tweak the special sauce further this weekend using the guide from project htpc.
there must be conflict somewhere, 1080p's video is delayed 
64bit with 4gb of ram or 32bit with 2gb ram?
with this concern i believe it would be better to run in classic mode first.  add page file. 
effecient naman yung sauce natin so dapat gumana .. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 11, 2009 at 05:21 PM
64bit with 4gb of ram or 32bit with 2gb ram?
with this concern i believe it would be better to run in classic mode first.  add page file. 
effecient naman yung sauce natin so dapat gumana .. :)

I can't tell if its the 32bit or 64bit, it has a 3gb ram pre installed(?), unit was purchased overseas
I will try it tonight.  what value should be ideal for page file size for my purpose?

Thanks ninj  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 12, 2009 at 04:53 AM
I can't tell if its the 32bit or 64bit, it has a 3gb ram pre installed(?), unit was purchased overseas
I will try it tonight.  what value should be ideal for page file size for my purpose?

Thanks ninj  :)
im using around 4048mb (4gb)
btw make sure that your power is in performance mode and plugged in.  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 12, 2009 at 04:59 AM
I've confirmed this Tosh unit is running on a 32-bit Vista SP2, Turion X2 2.0Ghz with 3gb ram

1.  Initially I've removed CoreAVC, re-installed & tweaked using the guide from Project HTPC. 
2.  Disabled Windows Aero, used windows classic ~ (flawless 1080p) improved overall performance
3.  Reverted to VISTA Basic ~ seems to be flawless also in my limited testing
4.  Did not change pagefile yet

Thanks to all who contributed  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 07:33 AM
please guide me in connecting desktop's audio to an LG32LH20 (http://www.lge.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-lcd-tv-32LH20.jsp)

1st Desktop - connecting hdmi audio jumper cable of my Palit 9500GT (http://www.palit.biz/main/faq_show.php?pc_cate=vga&id=101) to my Emaxx ANF82HD-PRO (http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=9)

2nd Desktop - connecting audio of Emaxx AMD780G-PRO+ (http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=18) with a Powercolor HD4770 (http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?ProductID=5411)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 15, 2009 at 09:41 AM
please guide me in connecting desktop's audio to an LG32LH20 (http://www.lge.com/us/tv-audio-video/televisions/LG-lcd-tv-32LH20.jsp)

1st Desktop - connecting hdmi audio jumper cable of my Palit 9500GT (http://www.palit.biz/main/faq_show.php?pc_cate=vga&id=101) to my Emaxx ANF82HD-PRO (http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=9)

2nd Desktop - connecting audio of Emaxx AMD780G-PRO+ (http://www.emaxxtech.com/products.php?id=18) with a Powercolor HD4770 (http://www.powercolor.com/Global/products_features.asp?ProductID=5411)



Your HD4770 has integrated audio controller, so plug and play lang dapat via the HD4770's HDMI ang sound solution.  You just have to tweak CCC to your preferred audio settings.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Your HD4770 has integrated audio controller, so plug and play lang dapat via the HD4770's HDMI ang sound solution.  You just have to tweak CCC to your preferred audio settings.

the Powercolor 4770 i have has 2 dvi's only, no hdmi. there's an DVI-HDMI adapter though, will it transmit audio also?

(http://www.f13pc.pt/imagens/produtos/POWERCOLOR_HD4770.jpg) (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_1/images/monoprice-cables-dvi-hdmi-adapter.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 15, 2009 at 01:01 PM
the Powercolor 4770 i have has 2 dvi's only, no hdmi. there's an DVI-HDMI adapter though, will it transmit audio also?

(http://www.f13pc.pt/imagens/produtos/POWERCOLOR_HD4770.jpg) (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_1/images/monoprice-cables-dvi-hdmi-adapter.jpg)

Ay hindi puidi DVI-HDMI to output audio Bro.  
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 01:07 PM
Ay hindi puidi DVI-HDMI to output audio Bro.  


duda ko na nga kanina  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 15, 2009 at 01:14 PM
Ay hindi puidi DVI-HDMI to output audio Bro.  

yung bagong revisions bro pwede :D
btw Dowals di ko na sasagutin pm mo ha .. andito na mga kasaguta.. :D :D
pm bobs of tipidpc.com iirc he already tried it  
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 04:17 PM
yung bagong revisions bro pwede :D
btw Dowals di ko na sasagutin pm mo ha .. andito na mga kasaguta.. :D :D
pm bobs of tipidpc.com iirc he already tried it  

bobs of tpc from GenSan?

san sya may experience 9500gt or 4770?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 04:51 PM
These are the photos of the 9500GT jumper cable & the nVIDIA based Emaxx board

(http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/8738/dsc04245.th.jpg) (http://img109.imageshack.us/i/dsc04245.jpg/) (http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/8132/dsc04242u.th.jpg) (http://img525.imageshack.us/i/dsc04242u.jpg/)

which part of the spdif pins do i connect the black & red wire?

the black wire has a GND print
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 15, 2009 at 05:23 PM
Uy pareng Dowals, mukha ngang may kakayahan ang ating series 4 na ATI cards to output audio via DVI.   Your card came with that ATI DVI-HDMI converter right?

Mapaglaruan nga sa bakasyon.   ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 05:31 PM
bro Clondalkin, found this limited discussion on the 4770's HDMI audio capabilities, I get a cable tomorrow and test. 

4770 HDMI Audio (http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/4770-hdmi-audio/939200)

kaya lang there's an ATI Audio driver? parang the driver CD doesn't have that
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 15, 2009 at 05:36 PM
bro Clondalkin, found this limited discussion on the 4770's HDMI audio capabilities, I get a cable tomorrow and test. 

4770 HDMI Audio (http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/4770-hdmi-audio/939200)

kaya lang there's an ATI Audio driver? parang the driver CD doesn't have that

Check ATI's site.  Im currently reading some reports that they simply used the ATI adapter, then enabled/set HDMI audio within CCC.   Baka makuha sa simpleng kapa-kapa sa CCC.  Please try.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 15, 2009 at 05:58 PM
I have that adapter

I've check my ATI based desktop, unfortunately Realtek HD audio lang ang installed, silipin ko CCC a bit later

***************

can't find any audio setting for my CCC, graphics tab lang
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 16, 2009 at 12:31 AM
I have that adapter

I've check my ATI based desktop, unfortunately Realtek HD audio lang ang installed, silipin ko CCC a bit later

***************

can't find any audio setting for my CCC, graphics tab lang
check the adapters revision/version.  newer adapters should output audio via dvi/hdmi  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 16, 2009 at 04:21 AM
pending my purchase of an hdmi cable, i hooked up the nVidia desktop to the LGTV via vga-dvi adapter, worked fine, 1360 x768 resolution

however, im getting "invalid input" for the ATI Desktop, will work up to 40 secs to a minute after boot up, then screen blacks out. used the same vga-dvi adapter that work with the first desktop. what did i do wrong kaya?   

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 16, 2009 at 07:18 AM
pending my purchase of an hdmi cable, i hooked up the nVidia desktop to the LGTV via vga-dvi adapter, worked fine, 1360 x768 resolution

however, im getting "invalid input" for the ATI Desktop, will work up to 40 secs to a minute after boot up, then screen blacks out. used the same vga-dvi adapter that work with the first desktop. what did i do wrong kaya?   


try lowering the refresh rate  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 16, 2009 at 07:42 AM
I have that adapter

I've check my ATI based desktop, unfortunately Realtek HD audio lang ang installed, silipin ko CCC a bit later

***************

can't find any audio setting for my CCC, graphics tab lang


Bro, sa CCC you normally dont see the setting option for a particular connector unless you actually connect it.  Your ATI would detect the connection and then present you the "new/added" options within CCC.  That's how my ATI cards work.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 16, 2009 at 09:28 AM
try lowering the refresh rate  :)

i should adjust this before connecting to the LG32?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Dec 16, 2009 at 12:59 PM
i should adjust this before connecting to the LG32?
yeah lower everything else including the resolution.  then raise it slowly, leave the refresh rate at 50hz.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Dec 16, 2009 at 01:20 PM
thanks bro
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rain021 on Dec 21, 2009 at 07:24 AM
Hey guys, I need help on some parts sa binubuo kong HTPC

1. Cheapest "cube" case. Anong mai-recommend niyo dito? Parang maganda yung astone sff(I have an mATX board btw) though proprietary ata yung PSU and medyo mahina for my taste, so sayang naman PSU ko.

2. Soundcard that has optical out. Coax out lang kasi yung built-in sa mobo ko. Asus Xonar U1 or Turtle Beach Riviera sana kaso wala naman ata available locally. Another option would be a coax-optical converter, which isn't available locally too.

3. Remote for Windows Media Center/XBMC/MediaPortal. I'm eyeing for the cdrking remote though I'm not sure kung gagana ng maayos kapag nakabili na ako ng Harmony. Or isa pang option ko dito is using the Wii Remote connected to the PC using bluetooth.

Well that's pretty much it.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rubenpp on Mar 08, 2010 at 01:18 AM
Good news for ATI 5xxx and TMT users  :)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jpadua on Apr 12, 2010 at 12:51 PM
Wow, I just checked the first post, I cant believe I started this thread 2003!

Anyways has anyone been successfully create a TV Guide for MCE?

Ive tried TVXB before, got it working... ive been out of it for a while, I was wondering if there are any other solutions out there?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rubenpp on May 10, 2010 at 04:17 AM
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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 24, 2010 at 05:32 PM
Guys, I'm planning to upgrade my VideoCard 9600gt 1gb 256bit. Ano ba recommended nyo? Budget ko around 4k to 5k, kahit 2nd hand. Thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: baneph on May 25, 2010 at 04:39 PM
sabi nung karamihan na nabasa ko, if for htpc lng,

5450, 5570 (low profile), 5670.

kasya ata sa budget mo ang 5670 512mb

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dhoZe on Jun 14, 2010 at 08:27 PM
Guys I don't know if dito ang tamang thread. Ask ko lang po kung saan pwede or paano connection pag gagamitin yung Center/Sub analog out ng sound card (kung gamit 3.5 to RCA) isasaksak sa Integrated amp. yung 2 rca po ba e ikakabit sa input left/right ng amp? if so, saan naman i kakabit yung speaker? sa left o right? sorry po sa nobie question  ???
Thanks in advance guys
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Ponk on Jul 14, 2010 at 09:53 PM
for those who has an ipod and wifi at home, here's a low cost solution to needing a remote control:

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifiremote-lite/id303494976?mt=8 (http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/wifiremote-lite/id303494976?mt=8)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rubenpp on Jul 30, 2010 at 05:40 AM
HQV Benchmark 2.0 Analysis – ATi, nVidia and Intel (my apologies if this has been posted already)

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/hqv-benchmark-2-0-analysis-ati-nvidia-and-intel/ (http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/hqv-benchmark-2-0-analysis-ati-nvidia-and-intel/)

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Intel: Even though the original programme for discrete Larrabee was cancelled, it’s obvious that Intel’s engineers have already learned a lot about high quality video processing and each generation is definitely getting better. Comparing an integrated graphics processor against a state-of-the-art GPU from someone like ATI is never going to look good for Intel. Dedicated hardware solutions are always going to rock. But you must to take your hat off to Intel when you consider that its latest chips score more than 125% higher than its previous generation. Intel may not be a leader right now, but it is very definitely moving in the right direction – and it’s doing so faster than anyone else.
nVidia: Again, progress has been made. The jump from nVidia’s G210/220 scores to the present generation of Fermi processor is substantial. Also, once nVidia’s engineers have had a chance to look through KitGuru’s test results, it will be straightforward for them to target issues the issueswe’ve flagged  and eliminate them.  It’s unlikely that the lower scores are anything to do with hardware, so we’d expect the scores to pick up within a few driver iterations. Likewise on the functionality side of things, we expect to see some of ATI’s new functions mirrored in the nVidia driver panels soon enough, for example mosquito noise reduction and deblocking.
ATI: It seems that ATI’s background with the production of processing chips for digital TVs still gives it some kind of advantage. Even budget cards like the passively cooled Sapphire HD 5550 generate similar video quality when compared with nVidia’s flagship GTX480. Obviously a lot of this is down to driver development and advancements. For now, KitGuru can state clearly that ATI’s Radeon HD 5000 series cards offer the best HD video reproduction quality available in the market.
Our findings have also shown that Catalyst 10.6 is without a doubt the best ATI driver yet, specifically in regards to the quality of video rendering. The new features incorporated into Catalyst 10.6, such as Mosquito Noise Reduction and DeBlocking, really to help to enhance picture quality output, with our reference monitor it was easy to ascertain quality differences. Just as we’re sure that ATI’s discrete solutions are leading the HD video quality pack right now, we’re also positive that nVidia will be working hard to catch up with subsequent driver releases over the coming months.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Aug 10, 2010 at 09:26 PM
guys, just some question regarding 2 mkv files that i have - Avatar and Clash of the Titans ... both are 1080p, and HD audio, both are 13GB+ size files

i'm able to play both movies on my TVIX and Xtreamer, but I cannot make the files play correctly on my PC - parang naka-fast forward palagi ...any ideas on what to adjust?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Aug 11, 2010 at 09:35 AM
Update KLite Codec FW or download the latest Dvix player.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Aug 11, 2010 at 10:26 AM
guys, just some question regarding 2 mkv files that i have - Avatar and Clash of the Titans ... both are 1080p, and HD audio, both are 13GB+ size files

i'm able to play both movies on my TVIX and Xtreamer, but I cannot make the files play correctly on my PC - parang naka-fast forward palagi ...any ideas on what to adjust?


What's your player?I think we do have same size of mkv. What i use is Kmplayer 1435 version with special sauce. No problem. Smoooth na smooth ang play. For me the best pa rin ang KMplayer. HTH.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Aug 11, 2010 at 02:40 PM
What's your player?I think we do have same size of mkv. What i use is Kmplayer 1435 version with special sauce. No problem. Smoooth na smooth ang play. For me the best pa rin ang KMplayer. HTH.

i'm also using KMplayer with CoreAVC ... version 2.9.4.1435
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 13, 2010 at 04:05 PM
What's your player?I think we do have same size of mkv. What i use is Kmplayer 1435 version with special sauce. No problem. Smoooth na smooth ang play. For me the best pa rin ang KMplayer. HTH.
hi bro, di ka ba nagkaproblema sa subtitles?
sakin kasi nawawala ang subtitle pag naka 1435 eh   :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Aug 13, 2010 at 04:16 PM
Di naman bro ako nagkakaproblem sa subtitles. why do encounter synchronization problem with your subtitles?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Aug 13, 2010 at 10:41 PM
hi bro, di ka ba nagkaproblema sa subtitles?
sakin kasi nawawala ang subtitle pag naka 1435 eh   :-\

ok naman subtitles, just this 2 titles na palaging naka-fast-forward ... ok naman pag sa NMT
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 14, 2010 at 11:01 AM
Di naman bro ako nagkakaproblem sa subtitles. why do encounter synchronization problem with your subtitles?

ok naman subtitles, just this 2 titles na palaging naka-fast-forward ... ok naman pag sa NMT

wala talagang lumalabas na subtitle, reverted back to older version ok naman.  weird nga eh kasi i tried googling it, wala naman lumabas na result na kapareho ko yung symtoms.  more on "how to show/hide subtitle" lang lumalabas na result  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Aug 15, 2010 at 11:39 AM
i got the solution to the fast forward problem ... i noted that this happens on HD format audios (trueHD and DTS-MA) ... i just downloaded another movie with the same issue (Airforce One)

solution is on this url - http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16783
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dhoZe on Aug 15, 2010 at 08:55 PM
Masters question lang po, pag manunuod ba ako ng MKV movies using Cyberlink PDVD 10 mag output ba ito ng DD or DTS 5.1? same as BSPlayer kung DD/DTS din output nya, pag VOB kasi play ko sa PDVD 10 ramdan ko yung pagka 5.1DD nya, not so sure pag MKV. Pano din po ba malalaman kung DD/DTS 5.1 yung MKV na file? If ever pa suggest naman po ng magandang MKV player same time pwede din VOB tapos kaya nya mag output or magdecode ng DD/DTS 5.1.

 Thanks in advance po
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 26, 2010 at 07:57 AM
Mga kapatid sa KMP.  ;)

In case you have any problems with the playback of some of the "new" releases, whether no audio, no video, or no nothing at all, try to set your Matroska Splitter to GABEST within the Preferences, or use HALLI Splitter instead na yung KMP's internal splitter.

These types of issues are connected sa "header removal compression" na sakit ng ulo ng marami these days.

Yun lang po.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Aug 26, 2010 at 10:09 AM
Very nice advise bro allan. I used halli splitter eversince and have not given me any problems. HTH.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dyerds on Aug 27, 2010 at 09:39 AM
Mga kapatid sa KMP.  ;)

In case you have any problems with the playback of some of the "new" releases, whether no audio, no video, or no nothing at all, try to set your Matroska Splitter to GABEST within the Preferences, or use HALLI Splitter instead na yung KMP's internal splitter.

These types of issues are connected sa "header removal compression" na sakit ng ulo ng marami these days.

Yun lang po.



Sir, ito ba yung sa Filter Control - Splitter - General Tab - Matroska? Anong ginagawa nito? Set to default kasi yung sa'kin so far wala namang problema.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: caohyde on Aug 27, 2010 at 12:43 PM
just a quickie, i don't know if it was discussed before, but is there a sound card/mother board/software that can handle crossover functions to the outputs? example: line1/2 low, line 3/4 mid, line 5/6 high.

thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: davidian on Nov 04, 2010 at 12:12 AM
guys need your opinions sana..

i have an htpc with onboard videocard connected to a fullhd lcdtv. running resolution is 1920x1080 which i think is fullhd already.

if i upgrade to a midlevel discreet videocard like a 5450 or gt220, will i see improvement on movie quality?

any other suggestions on a good htpc videocard?

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: IronMan247 on Nov 05, 2010 at 01:55 AM
guys need your opinions sana..

if i upgrade to a midlevel discreet videocard like a 5450 or gt220, will i see improvement on movie quality?


for me, yes. the performance of a discrete graphics card allows you to use some driver options/enhancements and shaders that may improve quality.

dati, on-board ATI 4200 ang gamit ko. i recently upgraded to a 5570.  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 05, 2010 at 07:05 AM
Kapag sinisinok na ang A200 or Mede8er sa full BD rips na grabe ang taas ng bitrate, I switch to TMT3 - hindi lang smooth full BD playback because it takes advantage of hardware acceleration, complete pa with menus, special & bonus features of the BD.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: xeroichi on Nov 23, 2010 at 11:01 PM
guys, need help..

anyone here knows how to setup klite codec so it will output DTS audio to my receiver? thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: skrizal on Nov 24, 2010 at 02:51 AM
kapag ati 5650 na pang laptop ang video card ko, kaya ba nya smooth playing ng 1080p?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Philander on Nov 24, 2010 at 06:10 AM
kapag ati 5650 na pang laptop ang video card ko, kaya ba nya smooth playing ng 1080p?

Yes, actually the processor will have the most responsibilities in handling 1080p videos. Even the basic graphics chipset such as gma 4500, ati 3200, or lower specs with mid-level dual core processor can playback 1080p smoothly.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 24, 2010 at 11:56 AM
guys, need help..

anyone here knows how to setup klite codec so it will output DTS audio to my receiver? thanks!

Install mo nalang ang AC3Filter para mas madali.   Set mo lang as "passthrough", or "raw" or "as is" (or some words or phrases that imply the same) under DTS.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: apollorod on Nov 24, 2010 at 06:06 PM
Mga HTPC experts, what can you say about this 3D capable HTPC

(Processor) = AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition processor, 6 Cores, Top of the line AMD processor. Current Speed is overclocked to 4.1GHZ with turbo boost on 4.2Ghz, 100% stable @ 1.4750v, 24/7

(Processor Cooler) = Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Rev.c Black

(RAM) = G.skill Flare, Designed for AMD Phenom II x6 and for Phenom II x6 use only, 4GB, 2x2GB, DDR3,

(Video-card) = Nvdia GeForce GTX 480GPU Engine Specs:

(Hard Drive) = 1TB, 1000GB, Western Digital, SATA II, 7200RPM..

(Motherboard) = Asrock 890GX Extreme 3

(Power Supply) = Carbon Fibered Thermaltake Toughtpower 800watts
(Casing) = Modified XClio, A380, Full tower, Fully black finish

Windows 7 Ultimate

using the following:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_480_us.html
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=890GX%20Extreme3

Notes:
   1. Phenom II X6 6-Core CPU Ready
   2. Supports UCC feature (Unlock CPU Core)
   3. ASRock DuraCap (2.5 x longer life time), 100% Japan-made high-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors
   4. Advanced V8 + 2 Power Phase Design
   5. Supports CPU up to 140W
   6. Supports Dual Channel DDR3 1800(OC)
   7. Integrated AMD Radeon HD 4290 graphics, DX10.1 Class iGPU, Shader Model 4.1, Max. shared memory 512MB
   8. Built-in 128MB DDR3 1333MHz SidePort Memory
   9. Supports ATI™ Quad CrossFireX™, 3-Way CrossFireX™, CrossFireX™ and Hybrid CrossFireX™
  10. Multi VGA Output options: D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI
  11. 1 x eSATA3 Connector, 6 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s connectors, 2 x USB 3.0 ports, 2 x IEEE 1394 ports
  12. Smart Switch Design : 1 x Power Switch with LED, 1 x Reset Switch with LED, 1 x Clear CMOS Switch with LED
  13. Dr. Debug (7-Segment Debug LED)
  14. Supports ASRock Instant Boot, Instant Flash, OC DNA, OC Tuner, IES, Multi-Speed Fan Control
  15. 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection, DAC with 110dB dynamic range (VIA® VT2020 Audio Codec) , Premium Blu-ray audio support.
  16. ErP/EuP Ready

    * Free Software: CyberLink DVD

64K for CPU only

Comments are very much welcome



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 24, 2010 at 06:55 PM
Nvidia 465-480 are exceptions for full SBS 3D capability according to Eureka.  Please consider another Nvidia 400 series (if you insist on an Nvidia) or an ATI 6000 series.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 24, 2010 at 07:29 PM
Hi, are you planning to do any gaming with this HTPC? Or are you just gonna play 2D/3D Bluray and MKV files? If it's the latter this PC you plan to assemble is really overkill. A quad core cpu will be more than enough also mid line range of GTX video card will also be ok. The savings you get can be used to buy more storage and also a bluray drive.

What display device are you plannng to pair with it?

Thanks.


Mga HTPC experts, what can you say about this 3D capable HTPC

(Processor) = AMD Phenom II x6 1090T Black Edition processor, 6 Cores, Top of the line AMD processor. Current Speed is overclocked to 4.1GHZ with turbo boost on 4.2Ghz, 100% stable @ 1.4750v, 24/7

(Processor Cooler) = Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Rev.c Black

(RAM) = G.skill Flare, Designed for AMD Phenom II x6 and for Phenom II x6 use only, 4GB, 2x2GB, DDR3,

(Video-card) = Nvdia GeForce GTX 480GPU Engine Specs:

(Hard Drive) = 1TB, 1000GB, Western Digital, SATA II, 7200RPM..

(Motherboard) = Asrock 890GX Extreme 3

(Power Supply) = Carbon Fibered Thermaltake Toughtpower 800watts
(Casing) = Modified XClio, A380, Full tower, Fully black finish

Windows 7 Ultimate

using the following:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gtx_480_us.html
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=890GX%20Extreme3

Notes:
   1. Phenom II X6 6-Core CPU Ready
   2. Supports UCC feature (Unlock CPU Core)
   3. ASRock DuraCap (2.5 x longer life time), 100% Japan-made high-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors
   4. Advanced V8 + 2 Power Phase Design
   5. Supports CPU up to 140W
   6. Supports Dual Channel DDR3 1800(OC)
   7. Integrated AMD Radeon HD 4290 graphics, DX10.1 Class iGPU, Shader Model 4.1, Max. shared memory 512MB
   8. Built-in 128MB DDR3 1333MHz SidePort Memory
   9. Supports ATI™ Quad CrossFireX™, 3-Way CrossFireX™, CrossFireX™ and Hybrid CrossFireX™
  10. Multi VGA Output options: D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI
  11. 1 x eSATA3 Connector, 6 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s connectors, 2 x USB 3.0 ports, 2 x IEEE 1394 ports
  12. Smart Switch Design : 1 x Power Switch with LED, 1 x Reset Switch with LED, 1 x Clear CMOS Switch with LED
  13. Dr. Debug (7-Segment Debug LED)
  14. Supports ASRock Instant Boot, Instant Flash, OC DNA, OC Tuner, IES, Multi-Speed Fan Control
  15. 7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection, DAC with 110dB dynamic range (VIA® VT2020 Audio Codec) , Premium Blu-ray audio support.
  16. ErP/EuP Ready

    * Free Software: CyberLink DVD

64K for CPU only

Comments are very much welcome




Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: questforthegoodlife on Nov 24, 2010 at 10:54 PM
Current Setup:

22" 2232GW LCD Samsung Monitor
2.93Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo E7500
4gb ddr2 RAM
Asus motherboard w/ built in 5.1 soundcard
3 x 1gb sata harddrive
Cooler Master 600W Power Supply
Altec Lansing VS325.1 (5.1 setup)

For my pc in my condo, planning to upgrade the speakers to DIY BS - (Genesis BS) and a sealed sub from sir anthony.

as i don't want to use a receiver to connect my pc for just speakers. can i use sir pilyo's AMP5 5 channel amplifier?  How do i connect it the amp to my built in soundcard? and how can i make the setup 5.1? buy AMP 4v2?

Or is it cost effective to buy an entry level receiver?

I won't be connecting the pc to 32" LCD TV.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: apollorod on Nov 25, 2010 at 03:14 PM
Hi, are you planning to do any gaming with this HTPC? Or are you just gonna play 2D/3D Bluray and MKV files? If it's the latter this PC you plan to assemble is really overkill. A quad core cpu will be more than enough also mid line range of GTX video card will also be ok. The savings you get can be used to buy more storage and also a bluray drive.

What display device are you plannng to pair with it?

Thanks.



Thank you sir for your advise.
Yes, I intend to play mostly 2D mkv and 3D mkv (since dumadami na availability nito) in the future.
Can you edit the specs I mentioned with your optimum suggestions sir, so i could get a revised quotation?
Hope you could give more advise sir.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 25, 2010 at 03:50 PM
Yes, I intend to play mostly 2D mkv and 3D mkv (since dumadami na availability nito) in the future.
Can you edit the specs I mentioned with your optimum suggestions sir, so i could get a revised quotation?

Kung serious ka sa 3D, wag kang magtipid sa CPU because simultaneous playback of full SBS 3D files would demand a lot - that's 1920x1080 by 2 = 3840x1080.  Intel i7 nga ang recommended ni Eureka.  How does i7 compare to your planned AMD chip?

Pero kung kakalimutan mo ang 3D, well maski Intel i3, C2D, C2Q, i5 class are better than OK - yung pang-desktop ne.

Take note, HDMI 1.4a compliance for 3D playback.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 25, 2010 at 04:31 PM
Thank you sir for your advise.
Yes, I intend to play mostly 2D mkv and 3D mkv (since dumadami na availability nito) in the future.
Can you edit the specs I mentioned with your optimum suggestions sir, so i could get a revised quotation?
Hope you could give more advise sir.

It would depend on what display device you intend to use.

I read your posts at the Acer H5360 thread, are you planning to use this as your display or are you planning to get 3D TV? And no bluray discs only mkvs right?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 25, 2010 at 04:37 PM
Kung serious ka sa 3D, wag kang magtipid sa CPU because simultaneous playback of full SBS 3D files would demand a lot - that's 1920x1080 by 2 = 3840x1080.  Intel i7 nga ang recommended ni Eureka.  How does i7 compare to your planned AMD chip?

Pero kung kakalimutan mo ang 3D, well maski Intel i3, C2D, C2Q, i5 class are better than OK - yung pang-desktop ne.

Take note, HDMI 1.4a compliance for 3D playback.



Hi Alan, doesn't these full SBS 3D mkv files support hardware acceleration (DXVA) like normal mkv files? These full SBS are they the ones made up of 2 seperate mkv files (left and right)? What software player do you use to play these? I've only tried some half SBS clips and they seem to support DXVA.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: apollorod on Nov 26, 2010 at 07:29 AM
It would depend on what display device you intend to use.

I read your posts at the Acer H5360 thread, are you planning to use this as your display or are you planning to get 3D TV? And no bluray discs only mkvs right?


yes, i plan to buy acer h5360 pero need to make sure gagana ng walang problem with htpc.
i plan to play only 3D/2D mkvs, that's why im also considering an nmt (popcorn A-200) with 3D adopter (Optoma 3D-XL) kung gagana 3D mkvs.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 26, 2010 at 08:00 AM
Hi Alan, doesn't these full SBS 3D mkv files support hardware acceleration (DXVA) like normal mkv files? These full SBS are they the ones made up of 2 seperate mkv files (left and right)? What software player do you use to play these? I've only tried some half SBS clips and they seem to support DXVA.

Hi Firestorm.  As I understand 3D-at-home using a PC, it all starts with a 3D-capable TV or monitor, a 3D-compatible graphics card in a Quad-Core (at least) PC, and a pair of active shutter glass.  Hence on the scale from 1-10, I am  at ZERO in terms of hardware  ;D :( ;D :(  even though I am 10-ready in terms of contents and software player.  hehehe.  So all I can do at the moment is literally stare at the files.  hahaha.

Anaglyph mode is allegedly working for stereoscopic player but that is so 19th century based on feedback - not much fun in terms of 3D-quality I guess.

Yeah most of the "workable" 3D contents seem to be left and right as single 3840x1080 encodes are apparently system killers.  Im actually getting confused on how the encoders are using the terms SBS against Left & Right but it appears that the encodes are in fact 2 x 1920x1080 or 2 x 960x1080.  The 2 most prolific encoders at the moment (Swemux and Eureka) concentrate only on 2 x 1920x1080 for the simple reason that 3D TVs and monitors are native full HD.

Stereoscopic Player seems to be the de facto standard at the moment for software playback but Ive read that some people also use TMT3 with 3D plug-in.  Im certain that TMT3 supports hardware acceleration but I dont know about Stereoscopic Player as I havent actually tried.  Kaya nga siguro Quad Core and sinasabi ni Swemux while Eureka is even more demanding at i7.  But the fact that certain graphics card models are specified as "3D-Capable", that reads "hardware acceleration" to me.   ;)    BTW, kahit gaano ako kabilib sa A200 or Mede8er, I totally have no confidence in the processing power of current gen NMTs in terms of 3D contents.  


Since my wife's desktop has conked out thus I have to hand-me-down my rig to her, then I would have a chance to build a 3D capable PC.  I have no plans of getting a real 3D HDTV for the next 2 years at least, hence my option would be one of those 3D capable monitors + Nvidia's 3D vision.

If your hardware is 3D-ready na, gusto mong subukin ang full length full SBS 3D contents in January?  




Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 26, 2010 at 10:46 AM
Hi Firestorm.  As I understand 3D-at-home using a PC, it all starts with a 3D-capable TV or monitor, a 3D-compatible graphics card in a Quad-Core (at least) PC, and a pair of active shutter glass.  Hence on the scale from 1-10, I am  at ZERO in terms of hardware  ;D :( ;D :(  even though I am 10-ready in terms of contents and software player.  hehehe.  So all I can do at the moment is literally stare at the files.  hahaha.

Anaglyph mode is allegedly working for stereoscopic player but that is so 19th century based on feedback - not much fun in terms of 3D-quality I guess.

Yeah most of the "workable" 3D contents seem to be left and right as single 3840x1080 encodes are apparently system killers.  Im actually getting confused on how the encoders are using the terms SBS against Left & Right but it appears that the encodes are in fact 2 x 1920x1080 or 2 x 960x1080.  The 2 most prolific encoders at the moment (Swemux and Eureka) concentrate only on 2 x 1920x1080 for the simple reason that 3D TVs and monitors are native full HD.

Stereoscopic Player seems to be the de facto standard at the moment for software playback but Ive read that some people also use TMT3 with 3D plug-in.  Im certain that TMT3 supports hardware acceleration but I dont know about Stereoscopic Player as I havent actually tried.  Kaya nga siguro Quad Core and sinasabi ni Swemux while Eureka is even more demanding at i7.  But the fact that certain graphics card models are specified as "3D-Capable", that reads "hardware acceleration" to me.   ;)    BTW, kahit gaano ako kabilib sa A200 or Mede8er, I totally have no confidence in the processing power of current gen NMTs in terms of 3D contents.  


Since my wife's desktop has conked out thus I have to hand-me-down my rig to her, then I would have a chance to build a 3D capable PC.  I have no plans of getting a real 3D HDTV for the next 2 years at least, hence my option would be one of those 3D capable monitors + Nvidia's 3D vision.

If your hardware is 3D-ready na, gusto mong subukin ang full length full SBS 3D contents in January?  






I did some research and I now see why Eureka recommends an I7 or powerful cpu for left/right full SBS files. Because as of now the only player that supports them is Stereoscopic player (also Nvidia 3D vision video player but it's just basically an OEM version) and it doesn't support hardware acceleration. TMT3 and PowerDVD10 supports hardware acceleration but it only supports half SBS and not full SBS. I've only tried half SBS clips on TMT3 and Nvidia 3D player and the CPU usage is only around 20-30% for TMT3 while for Nvidia it will go to 50-60%. I also tried the left/right option with Nvidia by opening up 2 1080 files and the CPU is 100% on a dual core AMD 2.7Ghz.

Your Popcorn a-200/Mederer/PC can play half SBS on a 3DTV with it's corresponding active shutter glasses. Because it's basically an ordinary 1080p mkv with 2 images at 960x1080 resolution. Just feed the video to the 3DTV and switch the 3D mode to SBS.

My PC has a 3D capable card (ATI 5770) and my brother has a 3D capable projector (Acer h5360) but we don't have 3D glasses. So I can't test 3d files in their full glory I've only been playing around with TMT3 and anaglyph glasses and some files produces good 3D what more on a true active shutter 3D setup. Do you only have full SBS files and wala bang small samples included with them?

If you plan to build a new 3D capable PC medyo mahal din. These are just the additional cost from a HTPC.

3D capable 120Hz monitor ($400-$500)
Nvidia 3D Vision video card (5000-10000 pesos depends if you need gaming performance since meron din    3D support for some PC games)
Nvidia 3D vision kit ($180 emitter + 1 pair of glasses)
extra pair of glasses ($130)
I7 or high end cpu for full SBS files (???)

I only wish TMT3/5 or PowerDVD can support full SBS soon no need to buy an expensive CPU.



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM
yes, i plan to buy acer h5360 pero need to make sure gagana ng walang problem with htpc.
i plan to play only 3D/2D mkvs, that's why im also considering an nmt (popcorn A-200) with 3D adopter (Optoma 3D-XL) kung gagana 3D mkvs.

I've gotta admit all these 3D stuff is really confusing because of the different standards so I can see why you can get a little confused. The Optoma 3D-XL is not to be used with a NMT or PC. It is used to connect a HDMI 1.4a 3D frame packed device like a PS3 and standalone 3D bluray player to a Nvidia 3D vision display like the Acer h5360.

So if you just want to play 3D/2D mkvs from a PC to a Acer h5360. You just need a PC equipped with either

Nvidia 3D vision capable video card + Nvidia 3D vision kit (emitter + glasses)
AMD series 5000/6000 video card (6850 or 6870) + DLPlink glasses  

You can read constant_htpc's post sa Acer thread regarding the Nvidia setup
I read about the AMD setup sa ibang site.

no need for NMT and Optoma 3D-XL.

We still haven't talked about the audio setup you are gonna use, is it PC speakers or receiver with 5.1 setup?

What is your current PC setup (CPU and video card)? And have you already tried playing any 3D mkv files yet?

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: apollorod on Nov 26, 2010 at 12:04 PM
I've gotta admit all these 3D stuff is really confusing because of the different standards so I can see why you can get a little confused. The Optoma 3D-XL is not to be used with a NMT or PC. It is used to connect a HDMI 1.4a 3D frame packed device like a PS3 and standalone 3D bluray player to a Nvidia 3D vision display like the Acer h5360.

So if you just want to play 3D/2D mkvs from a PC to a Acer h5360. You just need a PC equipped with either

Nvidia 3D vision capable video card + Nvidia 3D vision kit (emitter + glasses)
AMD series 5000/6000 video card (6850 or 6870) + DLPlink glasses  

Thanks firestorm, yes i'm a bit confused, I have read different discussion but I can't absorb all, maybe because I'm not a computer guy hehehe. Now i know Optoma 3D-XL cannot be used for NMT. I will eliminate this option. Therefore, i have to pursue on HTPC set up. On PC set-up, which do you prefer, Nvidia or AMD?

We still haven't talked about the audio setup you are gonna use, is it PC speakers or receiver with 5.1 setup?



I plan to use my receiver (capable of 7.1, but will set it only to 5.1). This receiver don't have hdmi, definitely i need a PC with either coaxial or optical/toslink audio out. What hardware/s would you recommend?

What is your current PC setup (CPU and video card)? And have you already tried playing any 3D mkv files yet?

I don't have a home PC yet. If ever, this will be my first set-up. I usually use office laptop for computing, internet and other needs. I tried 3D mkv files on this laptop using PowerDVD 10. And as I posted in one of the threads here, it shows 2 videos (up and under) simultaneously.

Thank you sir firestorm for taking time answering my queries. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 26, 2010 at 12:10 PM
Thanks for the valuable info firestorm.  The working combinations of shutter glasses and software players and graphic cards are still rather murky to me but do you think an ATI card can be used in combination with Nvidia's active shutter glass?  I am pretty much an ATI loyalist hence would rather get a 3D-capable ATI card once I start building a new desktop, while the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit is very easy to find.

The moderators have been trying to persuade both Eureka and Swemux to release half SBS 3D or 720p 3D or even half 720p 3D but both are sticking to full SBS thus far kahit nag-o-overlap sila ng released 3D title.  Their main difference is, Eureka keeps the HD audio (thus making his releases even more demanding in terms of hardware), while Swemux likes DD5.1 and DTS.   Kaya even though Eureka is most highly respected whatever he releases, the 3D encodes of Swemux are very much appreciated for being more usable to those not having cutting edge PC hardware, not to mention Swemux being sooo prolific in terms of 3D releases.   So as regards full length 3D contents, full SBS 3D lang ang available at sites I regularly visit.  The filesizes are surprisingly not that big - almost the same as single 1080p mkv lang.  Or perhaps kasi most of the 3D titles are CG type/animated movies.  How to play those ang major major financial challenge.  hehehe.

It would be great if NMT makers can figure out how to play those SBS/Left-Right/Up-Down files.

Oh, half SBS lang ba ang kaya ng TMT3 even with the 3D plug-in?    TMT3 is my favorite pure BD rip player if I want to access all extra contents and menus other than the main movie, and if the A200 stutters due to high video bitrate.  Really rocks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 26, 2010 at 01:00 PM
Thanks firestorm, yes i'm a bit confused, I have read different discussion but I can't absorb all, maybe because I'm not a computer guy hehehe. Now i know Optoma 3D-XL cannot be used for NMT. I will eliminate this option. Therefore, i have to pursue on HTPC set up. On PC set-up, which do you prefer, Nvidia or AMD?
 

I plan to use my receiver (capable of 7.1, but will set it only to 5.1). This receiver don't have hdmi, definitely i need a PC with either coaxial or optical/toslink audio out. What hardware/s would you recommend?

I don't have a home PC yet. If ever, this will be my first set-up. I usually use office laptop for computing, internet and other needs. I tried 3D mkv files on this laptop using PowerDVD 10. And as I posted in one of the threads here, it shows 2 videos (up and under) simultaneously.

Thank you sir firestorm for taking time answering my queries. 


I've been using ATI cards for the past several years. But the problem with ATI is they only released their AMD HD3D platform this October 2010 with Catalyst 10.10 so it's too early to tell how they will perform in the long run. While Nvidia 3D vision has been out for the last 2 years so mas prevalent na ang support for it. Like for 3D 120hz monitors they have more than 10 models available while for AMD compatible monitors only 1 to 2 are available now. The main difference between them is that Nvidia is proprietary so you need their 3D vision kit (with the emitter and glasses) for games and movies. While AMD relies on 3rd party support for games (iz3d and tridef) and glasses (for games/movies) and monitors. So if you are buying now it might be safer to buy Nvidia but if you can wait a while we can see how AMD will perform in the next few months.

I have no experience with optical out on the motherboard (I've only used HDMI to my receiver). But after you've decided what chip (Intel or AMD) you want, there should be a motherboard that supports that chip with optical out built in.

What version is your PowerDVD? Doesn't it have a setup screen to choose whether left/right or up/down or ordinary 2D? You should just be seeing one image after the software merges it into one. I use Total Media Theatre and you have to change the setting depending on the source file. I was able to view the 3D effect with ordinary red/blue anaglyph glasses.

Glad I could help. I just started getting interested in 3D this week and I've been reading a lot on the net at first it was confusing I seem to be getting the hang of it now. But I still have lots of unanswered questions myself. Wish I had the budget to invest on the hardware.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 26, 2010 at 01:30 PM
Thanks for the valuable info firestorm.  The working combinations of shutter glasses and software players and graphic cards are still rather murky to me but do you think an ATI card can be used in combination with Nvidia's active shutter glass?  I am pretty much an ATI loyalist hence would rather get a 3D-capable ATI card once I start building a new desktop, while the Nvidia 3D Vision Kit is very easy to find.

The moderators have been trying to persuade both Eureka and Swemux to release half SBS 3D or 720p 3D or even half 720p 3D but both are sticking to full SBS thus far kahit nag-o-overlap sila ng released 3D title.  Their main difference is, Eureka keeps the HD audio (thus making his releases even more demanding in terms of hardware), while Swemux likes DD5.1 and DTS.   Kaya even though Eureka is most highly respected whatever he releases, the 3D encodes of Swemux are very much appreciated for being more usable to those not having cutting edge PC hardware, not to mention Swemux being sooo prolific in terms of 3D releases.   So as regards full length 3D contents, full SBS 3D lang ang available at sites I regularly visit.  The filesizes are surprisingly not that big - almost the same as single 1080p mkv lang.  Or perhaps kasi most of the 3D titles are CG type/animated movies.  How to play those ang major major financial challenge.  hehehe.

It would be great if NMT makers can figure out how to play those SBS/Left-Right/Up-Down files.

Oh, half SBS lang ba ang kaya ng TMT3 even with the 3D plug-in?    TMT3 is my favorite pure BD rip player if I want to access all extra contents and menus other than the main movie, and if the A200 stutters due to high video bitrate.  Really rocks!

I'm sure Nvidia glasses won't work with AMD/ATI video cards. They are main competitors in the PC video card market and they won't help each other out. Just like Samsung, Sony and Panasonic's glasses are not compatible with each other. I think AMD's 3D strategy is geared more towards the home consumer market with HDMI 1.4a 3DTV and their glasses. That's why they didn't release their own AMD branded active shutter glasses. Also for monitors you can't buy the ones compatible with Nvidia 3D vision which uses dual link DVI connections while the AMD HD3D will be using HDMI 1.4a I think this is one of the few available.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/14/viewsonic-rolls-out-24-inch-v3d241wm-led-monitor-with-3d-glasses/

I've already seen half sbs releases with dts/ac3 of all available bluray 3d titles on 1 site they also have full SBS. And you are right, the filesizes are reasonable naman especially with your connection but not with mine.

I don't think the current batch of NMT will be able to handle full sbs like you said they are already some BD rips with playback problems. maybe the new chips will do this.

TMT doesn't have an option to open 2 mkv files at once. While for Stereoscopic player it has options to open file and open left/right file.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: apollorod on Nov 26, 2010 at 05:07 PM
I've been using ATI cards for the past several years. But the problem with ATI is they only released their AMD HD3D platform this October 2010 with Catalyst 10.10 so it's too early to tell how they will perform in the long run. While Nvidia 3D vision has been out for the last 2 years so mas prevalent na ang support for it. Like for 3D 120hz monitors they have more than 10 models available while for AMD compatible monitors only 1 to 2 are available now. The main difference between them is that Nvidia is proprietary so you need their 3D vision kit (with the emitter and glasses) for games and movies. While AMD relies on 3rd party support for games (iz3d and tridef) and glasses (for games/movies) and monitors. So if you are buying now it might be safer to buy Nvidia but if you can wait a while we can see how AMD will perform in the next few months.

I have no experience with optical out on the motherboard (I've only used HDMI to my receiver). But after you've decided what chip (Intel or AMD) you want, there should be a motherboard that supports that chip with optical out built in.

What version is your PowerDVD? Doesn't it have a setup screen to choose whether left/right or up/down or ordinary 2D? You should just be seeing one image after the software merges it into one. I use Total Media Theatre and you have to change the setting depending on the source file. I was able to view the 3D effect with ordinary red/blue anaglyph glasses.

Glad I could help. I just started getting interested in 3D this week and I've been reading a lot on the net at first it was confusing I seem to be getting the hang of it now. But I still have lots of unanswered questions myself. Wish I had the budget to invest on the hardware.

Thanks firestorm for the tip on whether Nvidia or AMD and re the motherboard.
By the way, I have powerDVD10. Have not explored much on its settings since laptop screen can't support 3D display and it has no Nvidia 3D installed.
For the meantime, I'll have to ask for revised quotation for HTPC enough to play 3D/2D mkv movies (with your suggestions on hand :)). Hopefully, I could get a budget set-up and ask for "test drive" before acquiring it.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 26, 2010 at 10:49 PM

3D capable 120Hz monitor ($400-$500)
Nvidia 3D Vision video card (5000-10000 pesos depends if you need gaming performance since meron din    3D support for some PC games)
Nvidia 3D vision kit ($180 emitter + 1 pair of glasses)
extra pair of glasses ($130)
I7 or high end cpu for full SBS files (???)

Went around Akihabara after work tonight to consult with the PC experts there.  Here's what I got:

i7-870 powered PC with Nvidia GTX460, P55 Chipset, 4GB DDR3 PC3-10600 Mem, 1TB HDD, Win 7 Home Premium:  80K Yen
120Hz IPS Monitor, 23.6-inch LG:  Coming out in Jan 2011 (current LG model is TN panel):  39K Yen
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit:  19.8K Yen

The desktop is an item I have to buy so no issue on that.  Pero yung items 2 and 3 above can be considered as luho just to be able to watch 3D movies.  (ang mumura na sana ng 60Hz IPS monitors na 23-27 inchers). At approx. 60K Yen for the 3D capable monitor and Nvidia 3D Kit, I can possibly build another desktop or buy 3 sets of A200s.  Oh well bahala na.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 26, 2010 at 11:21 PM
Went around Akihabara after work tonight to consult with the PC experts there.  Here's what I got:

i7-870 powered PC with Nvidia GTX460, P55 Chipset, 4GB DDR3 PC3-10600 Mem, 1TB HDD, Win 7 Home Premium:  80K Yen
120Hz IPS Monitor, 23.6-inch LG:  Coming out in Jan 2011 (current LG model is TN panel):  39K Yen
Nvidia 3D Vision Kit:  19.8K Yen

The desktop is an item I have to buy so no issue on that.  Pero yung items 2 and 3 above can be considered as luho just to be able to watch 3D movies.  (ang mumura na sana ng 60Hz IPS monitors na 23-27 inchers). At approx. 60K Yen for the 3D capable monitor and Nvidia 3D Kit, I can possibly build another desktop or buy 3 sets of A200s.  Oh well bahala na.

I guess you could buy the PC first and hold off on the monitor and 3D kit. Desktop lang naman siguro ang nasira at ok pa yun monitor ng misis mo. I'm thinking by mid to end of 2011 we will see if 3D will flourish in the market. As of now, there are barely 20+ movies which supports 3D. And maybe by that time you can go straight to a big 3DTV like you say always bigger is always better.

How's the consumer reception of 3D TVs there sa Japan? Walang bang demo unit sa mga stores, maybe you can bring your portable hard disc and try out a half sbs file on it?

edit : suggestions

After doing some more research you can save some more on your desktop.

1. Since you are capable of sourcing full 3D Bluray (not full SBS left/right) and planning to get a GTX 460 card. You can change your I7 quad core to a simple dual core/tri core. Both TMT3 and PowerDVD10 support hardware MVC decoding (which is needed for full 3D Bluray discs) so CPU utilization will be low.

2. If you don't plan to do any gaming, you can swap out the GTX 460 for a GTS 450 or GT 430. They both feature MVC decoding but it's slower for gaming.

BTW, what GTX-460 was quoted the 1GB or 768MB version? The 768MB version will save you some more
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 27, 2010 at 10:02 AM
Thanks firestorm for the tip on whether Nvidia or AMD and re the motherboard.
By the way, I have powerDVD10. Have not explored much on its settings since laptop screen can't support 3D display and it has no Nvidia 3D installed.
For the meantime, I'll have to ask for revised quotation for HTPC enough to play 3D/2D mkv movies (with your suggestions on hand :)). Hopefully, I could get a budget set-up and ask for "test drive" before acquiring it.


The suggestion in the post above is applicable for your quotations purposes. You don't plan to do any gaming the only difference above is your are only trying to do 3D mkv files and not full Blurays. There are 2 types of 3D mkv - full SBS and half SBS. You're planning to use it on an Acer h5360 which is a 720p projector so half SBS will be ideal for your purposes. full SBS will require a high end quad core CPU. A dual core 3.0GHZ CPU and Nvidia GT 430 will be enough. That's a budget HTPC. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 27, 2010 at 11:51 AM
Yeah ganon na nga ang plan of action firestorm; buy the required PC first and reconsider the optional hardware for 3D playback.

3D HDTV will eventually flourish but I think my fix for the next 2 years at least would have to be the PC on a 3D-capable monitor.  I just got 2 V2 plasmas and they are absolutely awesome 2D HDTVs - no need to upgrade too soon regardless of lack of 3D capability.

HDTV sales is at a peak in Tokyo right now.  You wouldnt believe that you'd have to take a number to be entertained by the sales staff, another 30-45 mins queue at the cashier (that they have to provide seats for old people who cant stand too long), and on top of that, up to 3 weeks of delivery time for popular high-end models like the plasma V2.

Lahat ng 3D makes have their demo booths (Panasonic, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba).  Im quite impressed with their quality and have no doubt that if I can provide the content, they would look great.  However, I dont expect any store would allow testing of downloaded 3D stuff - they are too strict on those Copyright Infringement thingy here.  Of course they want us to buy 3D Bluray players.

Thanks for the suggestions but Im pretty much OK with the quoted BTO configuration because the price difference between the i7 870 and the new quad core i5 (7xx series) is only about 3K Yen (roughly 1.5K pesos).   However, the downgrade from GTX460 to GTS450 seems more interesting in terms of savings.  I didnt really look at the full details of the GTX460 as my attention was mostly fixed on the total price and my inner self was whispering "ATI sana".  hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 27, 2010 at 12:35 PM
If you want to go ATI video card, maybe you could first go for a motherboard with onboard video for the I7. In a few months I'm sure more LCD monitors supporting AMD HD3D will be out maybe with better 3D glasses. Because as of now only 2 AMD/ATI cards are available 6850 and 6870.

The one weakness I've read about Nvidia's glasses is they lose a lot of the brightness. And the Acer monitor I linked before claimed that their included glasses will produce 3x brightness compared to Nvidia's.


Yeah ganon na nga ang plan of action firestorm; buy the required PC first and reconsider the optional hardware for 3D playback.

3D HDTV will eventually flourish but I think my fix for the next 2 years at least would have to be the PC on a 3D-capable monitor.  I just got 2 V2 plasmas and they are absolutely awesome 2D HDTVs - no need to upgrade too soon regardless of lack of 3D capability.

HDTV sales is at a peak in Tokyo right now.  You wouldnt believe that you'd have to take a number to be entertained by the sales staff, another 30-45 mins queue at the cashier (that they have to provide seats for old people who cant stand too long), and on top of that, up to 3 weeks of delivery time for popular high-end models like the plasma V2.

Lahat ng 3D makes have their demo booths (Panasonic, Sony, Sharp, Toshiba).  Im quite impressed with their quality and have no doubt that if I can provide the content, they would look great.  However, I dont expect any store would allow testing of downloaded 3D stuff - they are too strict on those Copyright Infringement thingy here.  Of course they want us to buy 3D Bluray players.

Thanks for the suggestions but Im pretty much OK with the quoted BTO configuration because the price difference between the i7 870 and the new quad core i5 (7xx series) is only about 3K Yen (roughly 1.5K pesos).   However, the downgrade from GTX460 to GTS450 seems more interesting in terms of savings.  I didnt really look at the full details of the GTX460 as my attention was mostly fixed on the total price and my inner self was whispering "ATI sana".  hehehe

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 27, 2010 at 01:43 PM
That's a good suggestion.  Actually I can still use my wife's HD3870 from the dead Dell desktop and save me (hopefully) around $100 for now.  "Hopefully" kasi BTO PC shops in Tokyo are the ones deciding on the basic bundles so since the GTX460 is part of the basic i7 package, the price reduction to opt for on-board graphics would not exactly be close to the market price of GTX460 alone.

Or I can simply offer the HD3870 sa TipidPC and go for the Nvidia bundle na.  I dont know how much I can get for the HD3870 though.  How much can I sell my Sapphire HD3870 nga pala?

Well, even all the real 3DTVs lose a lot of brightness when you wear the funky glasses kaya nga right now, I feel that medyo advantage ang LED tech over plasma because of its inherent brightness. I actually tried the Nvidia glasses last night - kinda cheap construction compared to those bundled with 3D HDTV but well, it was comfortable enough even on top of my eyeglasses.  May kaliitan nga lang talaga ang 23.6 inch monitor for 3D, but on the positive side, 24 inch is pretty ideal for regular PC use.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM
That's a good suggestion.  Actually I can still use my wife's HD3870 from the dead Dell desktop and save me (hopefully) around $100 for now.  "Hopefully" kasi BTO PC shops in Tokyo are the ones deciding on the basic bundles so since the GTX460 is part of the basic i7 package, the price reduction to opt for on-board graphics would not exactly be close to the market price of GTX460 alone.

Or I can simply offer the HD3870 sa TipidPC and go for the Nvidia bundle na.  I dont know how much I can get for the HD3870 though.  How much can I sell my Sapphire HD3870 nga pala?

Well, even all the real 3DTVs lose a lot of brightness when you wear the funky glasses kaya nga right now, I feel that medyo advantage ang LED tech over plasma because of its inherent brightness. I actually tried the Nvidia glasses last night - kinda cheap construction compared to those bundled with 3D HDTV but well, it was comfortable enough even on top of my eyeglasses.  May kaliitan nga lang talaga ang 23.6 inch monitor for 3D, but on the positive side, 24 inch is pretty ideal for regular PC use.


If you could save $100 from the bundle I say go for it and use the HD3870. I'm not sure if you could sell it for the equivalent of $100 sa tipidpc (doing a quick search saw prices ranging from 2500-3000). It's a high end card for the 3000 series but the technology is 3 generations old and gamers would usually just upgrade to the latest cards. The best bet of selling it for a good price is to find someone who already has a HD3870 or other 3000 series and looking to do crossfire setup with it.

And lastly is there no chance to repair your wife's dell? Or you no longer have any interest to test so you can a get a new pc there (joke).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Nov 28, 2010 at 09:55 AM
And lastly is there no chance to repair your wife's dell? Or you no longer have any interest to test so you can a get a new pc there (joke).

It is a Dell Dimension 9100 Pentium D 3.0G which I bought 5 1/2 years ago.  Sabi sa Gilmore and Cyberzone, dead motherboard DAW but I havent actually tested myself because the unit conked out in Sept in Manila.   My wife tried re-sitting the parts she knew how to do (memory modules, HDDs, sound and graphic cards) pero ayaw talaga mag-boot and just went straight to the "trouble-warning lights".  The front diagnostic lights were indicating "bring to service center trouble" as per Dimension 9100 manual.   I can possibly look for junked Dimension 9100 mobo here, or go to Dell's service center in Tokyo but Im not sure if that is still worth the effort considering that the unit is about 15kgs, and it's more than 5 years old.  Pero ngayon ko lang naranasan na mukhang talagang dead ang PC - before, I threw away old PCs which were still usable.

Thanks for info about the 3870.  Yeah Im not expecting too much about the current market price of that card, and I also have plans to swap that with the 4850 Im using in my desktop here.  Mas mainit and power hungry yung 4850 and I dont do PC gaming no more anyways.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Nov 28, 2010 at 10:14 AM
It is a Dell Dimension 9100 Pentium D 3.0G which I bought 5 1/2 years ago.  Sabi sa Gilmore and Cyberzone, dead motherboard DAW but I havent actually tested myself because the unit conked out in Sept in Manila.   My wife tried re-sitting the parts she knew how to do (memory modules, HDDs, sound and graphic cards) pero ayaw talaga mag-boot and just went straight to the "trouble-warning lights".  The front diagnostic lights were indicating "bring to service center trouble" as per Dimension 9100 manual.   I can possibly look for junked Dimension 9100 mobo here, or go to Dell's service center in Tokyo but Im not sure if that is still worth the effort considering that the unit is about 15kgs, and it's more than 5 years old.  Pero ngayon ko lang naranasan na mukhang talagang dead ang PC - before, I threw away old PCs which were still usable.

Thanks for info about the 3870.  Yeah Im not expecting too much about the current market price of that card, and I also have plans to swap that with the 4850 Im using in my desktop here.  Mas mainit and power hungry yung 4850 and I dont do PC gaming no more anyways.


Yeah it's not worth the effort to try to revive the Dell, 5-1/2 years is good enough already and I'm pretty sure it was being used everyday. And 15 kgs that's one heavy desktop.

You might start gaming again when you get your 3D vision setup just to try out the 3D effect.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Verbl Kint on Dec 04, 2010 at 12:20 AM
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Dadating kaya to sa 'pinas?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: coolswitch on Dec 06, 2010 at 12:30 PM
@Clondalkin

Sir I work at DELL. About sa diagnostics light, it is marked by either 1-4 or A-D. Ano po yung exact code na naka-light up?

The manual will not indicate what it is for except for contact dell. But we have information what each code exactly means and what needs to be replaced or if indeed it needs replacement or just a reseat
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@ All

I was planning to get either an NMT or build an HTPC pero more on balanced for gaming din. Bago ko buuin, I tried my old system, SIS 616 onboard graphics on my LCD TV (samsung series 3). Optimum resolution for the LCD is 1366x768, and binago ko din resolution nung PC. However, parang masyado malaki yung lumalabas na display, need pa i-gilid ng husto yung mouse pointer para mag move at makita yung left and/or right side nung actual display

Any idea?

Is it the LCD or the Onboard Video?

Buo lang lalabas kapag 1024x768 ang setting ng video card
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 13, 2010 at 09:23 PM
Half-SBS 3D is very light on a C2D but without a 3D-Ready TV, the images literally display as Side-By-Side - living up to its acronym.   ;D ;D ;D

Full-SBS 3D is a beast.  My C2D could barely move the file counter.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Dec 13, 2010 at 09:42 PM
Half-SBS 3D is very light on a C2D but without a 3D-Ready TV, the images literally display as Side-By-Side - living up to its acronym.   ;D ;D ;D

Full-SBS 3D is a beast.  My C2D could barely move the file counter.

Have you tried playing the Half SBS 3D file thru TMT3? Turn on 3D mode with the setting as Side by Side and your display device setup as no 3D display and you can use the ordinarly anaglyph red/blue glasses to see the 3D effect. Of course the quality won't be as good as active shutter glasses but at least we can see the 3D effect on our non 3D-Ready displays.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 14, 2010 at 08:52 AM
Have you tried playing the Half SBS 3D file thru TMT3? Turn on 3D mode with the setting as Side by Side and your display device setup as no 3D display and you can use the ordinarly anaglyph red/blue glasses to see the 3D effect. Of course the quality won't be as good as active shutter glasses but at least we can see the 3D effect on our non 3D-Ready displays.

I just tried using KMP to find out if anything would actually be displayed.  And for half-SBS 3D, there were 2 images displayed simultaneously and in perfect sync, with pleasantly smooth rendition, although the monitor was literally divided into 2 equal areas.  Hehehe.

For full-SBS 3D, my current hardware is hopeless.

I haven't installed the 3D plug-in for TMT3.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Dec 14, 2010 at 10:42 AM
I just tried using KMP to find out if anything would actually be displayed.  And for half-SBS 3D, there were 2 images displayed simultaneously and in perfect sync, with pleasantly smooth rendition, although the monitor was literally divided into 2 equal areas.  Hehehe.

For full-SBS 3D, my current hardware is hopeless.

I haven't installed the 3D plug-in for TMT3.

TMT3 with 3D will combine the 2 images into 1  when you turn on the 3D SBS mode.

Can KMP play 2 mkv files at the same time for left/right full SBS? I've used Nvidia 3D vision player and Stereoscopic player and the Nvidia version would need the 3D kit but it would play video that stutters because my CPU isn't powerful enough. Stereoscopic can use Anaglyph mode but I don't why but the program would hang after 10 seconds when using left/right mode it's ok for half SBS files.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 14, 2010 at 11:08 AM
Can KMP play 2 mkv files at the same time for left/right full SBS? I've used Nvidia 3D vision player and Stereoscopic player and the Nvidia version would need the 3D kit but it would play video that stutters because my CPU isn't powerful enough. Stereoscopic can use Anaglyph mode but I don't why but the program would hang after 10 seconds when using left/right mode it's ok for half SBS files.

The half-SBS 3Ds I tried on the KMP are single mkv files encoded by Eureka.  He also has full-SBS 3Ds na single mkv files in addition to Left-And-Right encodes having 2 ts or mkv files.  It seems Eureka is also trying to experiment how best to encode 3Ds at the moment - or trying to accommodate the whims of different people who are interested in 3D - especially those who cannot meet his hardware requirements for smooth playback.  But based on feedback by people who have tried Eureka's half-SBS on 3DTV, it's pretty good quality in terms of 3D rendering with not so stiff hardware requirements.  In fact, those owning Samsung 3DTVs dont need a separate 3D player at all.  Hopefully, Eureka will have the time to release both half-SBS and his preferred full-SBS for all 3D titles.   Then there is a Swedish guy who encodes in full SBS but somehow got the settings just right to be more forgiving than Eurekas.   Eureka is saying his works are not internal-encoder-quality (by his standards) even though the bitrates are pretty high, but people are loving their reliable playability.  You'd get to test some of those Swemux in Feb.   ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Dec 14, 2010 at 08:07 PM
The half-SBS 3Ds I tried on the KMP are single mkv files encoded by Eureka.  He also has full-SBS 3Ds na single mkv files in addition to Left-And-Right encodes having 2 ts or mkv files.  It seems Eureka is also trying to experiment how best to encode 3Ds at the moment - or trying to accommodate the whims of different people who are interested in 3D - especially those who cannot meet his hardware requirements for smooth playback.  But based on feedback by people who have tried Eureka's half-SBS on 3DTV, it's pretty good quality in terms of 3D rendering with not so stiff hardware requirements.  In fact, those owning Samsung 3DTVs dont need a separate 3D player at all.  Hopefully, Eureka will have the time to release both half-SBS and his preferred full-SBS for all 3D titles.   Then there is a Swedish guy who encodes in full SBS but somehow got the settings just right to be more forgiving than Eurekas.   Eureka is saying his works are not internal-encoder-quality (by his standards) even though the bitrates are pretty high, but people are loving their reliable playability.  You'd get to test some of those Swemux in Feb.   ;)

What happens when you play these single full SBS files by Eureka and Swemux in Kmplayer? Is the CPU utilization at 100%? Thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Dec 15, 2010 at 08:53 AM
What happens when you play these single full SBS files by Eureka and Swemux in Kmplayer? Is the CPU utilization at 100%? Thanks.

All Swemux encodes have 2 files thus cant be played simultaneously using the KMP.  Eureka is the more playful one experimenting with single and double files.  Many are complaining about the playability of single full SBS 3Ds for 3840x1080 reasons...Hehehe.  Swemux takes out the HD audio to make the encodes even lighter, but based on feedback, really works well on stereoscopic player even with mid class hardware.

CPU utilization on my C2D fluctuates between 60-100% when I tried to play single full SBS files.  Output is blank; time counter is dead - or appeared to be trying to move in vain because the PC never hangs even if I leave it trying to display any form or image for minutes.  Single half sbs is light as a feather for a C2D.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: leomarley on Jan 01, 2011 at 09:39 PM
Happy New Year! I'm planning to convert my PC to an HTPC set-up. right now the specs of my PC is this:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
2.00GB RAM
ATI Radion HD3850 (w/ DVI-out) @ 512MB
160GB HDD + 1TB External HDD
Samsung Super Writemaster DVD-ROM
running on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit

Since I'm a noob regarding HTPCs, what hardware do I need to replace in my current specs and what type/model/brand should I replace it with. Also, ano magandang video card with HDMI-out ang puwede kong ipalit para makapag-output to 1080P, 5.1-7.1 Surround Sound (DTS-HD, etc.), also preferably with Optical-out (Toslink). Will also be using this a little for gaming.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 01, 2011 at 09:48 PM
Happy New Year! I'm planning to convert my PC to an HTPC set-up. right now the specs of my PC is this:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz
2.00GB RAM
ATI Radion HD3850 (w/ DVI-out) @ 512MB
160GB HDD + 1TB External HDD
Samsung Super Writemaster DVD-ROM
running on Windows 7 Ultimate 32-bit

Since I'm a noob regarding HTPCs, what hardware do I need to replace in my current specs and what type/model/brand should I replace it with. Also, ano magandang video card with HDMI-out ang puwede kong ipalit para makapag-output to 1080P, 5.1-7.1 Surround Sound (DTS-HD, etc.), also preferably with Optical-out (Toslink). Will also be using this a little for gaming.
you cannot output HD audio via toslink. 
start with getting a receiver with HDMI and can bitstream HD audio.
then replace your VGA that is capable of outputting hd audio.
for gaming, what type of games are planning to play?
most of the time i usually recommend buying a separate rig for gaming.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: leomarley on Jan 01, 2011 at 11:30 PM
thanks for the reply sir. right now i'm only playing Civ5 and sometime in the future DiabloIII and maybe SC2. I don't want to buy a separate rig since di naman na ako masyado naglalaro ng PC games.

sir, can you please recommend a good Video Card for an HTPC set-up and an idea about the price? i'm actually planning to get the Onkyo HT-S3300 from sir Vic.

do i also need to buy a sound card for HD Audio? or meron na video cards with HD Audio out?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 02, 2011 at 01:15 AM
thanks for the reply sir. right now i'm only playing Civ5 and sometime in the future DiabloIII and maybe SC2. I don't want to buy a separate rig since di naman na ako masyado naglalaro ng PC games.

sir, can you please recommend a good Video Card for an HTPC set-up and an idea about the price? i'm actually planning to get the Onkyo HT-S3300 from sir Vic.

do i also need to buy a sound card for HD Audio? or meron na video cards with HD Audio out?
the games you mentioned, should run decently on a mid - high end cards.
get the ones that usually costs around 10-12k.  just make sure they are HD audio capable.

i was gonna suggest the HD 5770 series from ati, but you when mentioned gaming it is really up to what you can afford the most.  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jan 02, 2011 at 03:57 AM
do i also need to buy a sound card for HD Audio? or meron na video cards with HD Audio out?

If you get a video board / 3d accelerator outfitted with a fairly recent chip from ATI/AMD or Nvidia, then the HDMI out should be able to pass HD audio to your receiver. Some receivers won't accept the signal if you don't use a standard resolution (1080 / 720), however.

If this meets your need, then you no longer have to invest in a dedicated audio board.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: leomarley on Jan 02, 2011 at 09:09 AM
ok, thanks for the suggestions guys!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jan 03, 2011 at 01:54 AM
guys i want to upgrade my video card...

im on 9800gt right now playing most games in highest settings.. its been working great on my 1080i lcd tv... my problem is i plan to upgrade my tv to 1080p... upgrade from 1 megapixel to 2megapixel.. kaya... mahihirapan video card ko playing games on high settings....

im planning to go ati... dahil matipid daw sila sa kuryente specially on idle... kaya im either on 6850 or 6870? im open to suggestions naman... nung una kasali gtx460 sa choices ko.. kayalang.. matakaw daw ito sa kuryente specially on idle...

remember im building not a pure gaming machine but mostly an htpc.. so important sakin ang matipid sa idle since pag nagplplay ng movie ay halos idle lang naman ang video card sa ganun.

another thing... maliit lang po htpc case ko.. sagad na sa dulo ng case ang 9800gt ko.. so i can not get anything longer than a 9800gt.... are there new video cards shorter than my 9800gt?
thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Jan 03, 2011 at 02:30 AM
thanks for the reply sir. right now i'm only playing Civ5 and sometime in the future DiabloIII and maybe SC2. I don't want to buy a separate rig since di naman na ako masyado naglalaro ng PC games.

sir, can you please recommend a good Video Card for an HTPC set-up and an idea about the price? i'm actually planning to get the Onkyo HT-S3300 from sir Vic.

do i also need to buy a sound card for HD Audio? or meron na video cards with HD Audio out?


Hi Leomarley!  PXbox?

Your current HD3850 is more than capable for high def video via DVI - that can be set higher than 1080p  (I have a 3870 and 4850) assuming your monitor can support such settings.  Your system would even be more reliable and easier to configure if you simply purchase a discrete soundcard with HD audio decoding - and perhaps sound even better? - the Xonar looks like a pretty mean sound card for instance.   The cheapest basic Xonar series is about Yen12,800 or about $150 - probably cheaper in Singapore or HK.   But you need a spare PCI-E slot of course.

Check these out:
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=SPZfqXDJvadmFPoh
http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=wIxyLFT9vTWHLHk8


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: leomarley on Jan 03, 2011 at 06:28 AM
yup from PXB sir Clondalkin. tagal mo na din di nabisita dun ah. hehehe. thanks for the input sir. will try to look for a sound card first with HD audio i think i still have a spare slot in my computer for this. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: popejerico on Jan 06, 2011 at 10:06 AM
Guys I have an Nvidia 3D Vision Setup (3d vision goggles kit, Acer H5360 and a GTX 460 1gb OC ed)

Eto problem ko... yung hdmi cable ko yung mesh type na mura? 10meters binili ko for 1Kphp (10M) pero lately, nagkakaproblema pag naka 3d vision mode ako... nagkakaroon ng parang grounding ata yun sa screen tapos nagfliflicker din yung screen. So gusto ko napalitan. May alam ba kayo na mura, mahaba at pwedeng gamitin sa 3dvsion na hdmi cable?

Nagtataka lang ako bat nagkaganoon kasi gumagamit din naman ako ng chipipay na hdmi cable. I don't think din naman kaialngan ng 1.4 ver ng HDMI cable kasi yung mga nagamit ko na hdmi cables ok naman. Nakakapaglaro ako and nakakanood ng 3D gamit yung mga ver 1.3 hdmi na yun. Yun nga lang maikli lang sila tig 1-3meters lang.

Also, I'm using PowerDVD 10 ultra mark2, nagtataka lang ako bat pagnaka on yung subs ko sa ibang movie eh nagjejerk yung video? Naexperience nyo na ba ito?


TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Jan 23, 2011 at 05:13 PM
currently using 3 hdds, on board video
1 IDE 40gb for OS
2 Sata HDD (1TBX2) for data
can a HEC Winpower+ 550W accomodate another sata HDD?

planning to add another 1.5TB, kaya lang kabado ako to try  :-[
been experiencing downtime lately with my pc, ngayun lang ulit stable after several reformats  :'(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on Feb 07, 2011 at 12:45 PM
ano po ok na setting ng xmbc tsaka catalyst control center? my vcard is ati hd4650, 6gb mem, i5 processor.. tv po is sony 40bx400..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Feb 23, 2011 at 11:42 AM
guys pwede na ba for HTPC or may suggestion pa kayo?
specs-
amd x2 2.9hz or amd x3 3ghz
asus M4A785D-m pro
corsair 2g ddr3
2gig hitachi HDD

damage-
12,000php
need specs that can play 1080p perfectly with the least money i can dispense.
thanks!specialy to xrampage
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 23, 2011 at 11:55 AM
guys pwede na ba for HTPC or may suggestion pa kayo?
specs-
amd x2 2.9hz or amd x3 3ghz
asus M4A785D-m pro
corsair 2g ddr3
2gig hitachi HDD

damage-
12,000php
need specs that can play 1080p perfectly with the least money i can dispense.
thanks!specialy to xrampage

Upgrade the motherboard to something 880G based, so that you'd get UVD and HD audio. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Feb 23, 2011 at 01:12 PM
thanks for quick response sir stagea.
can you please be specific with the brand and model sir?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Feb 23, 2011 at 02:02 PM
Guys, need your suggestions. I just sold my 9600gt 1gb and planning to downgrade coz hindi na ko maggegames...
Ano bang basic video card ang maganda for HD 1080p movies?

Maraming salamat  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 23, 2011 at 02:11 PM
Guys, need your suggestions. I just sold my 9600gt 1gb and planning to downgrade coz hindi na ko maggegames...
Ano bang basic video card ang maganda for HD 1080p movies?

Maraming salamat  ;)

I just got the HD5450, and it seems to be sufficient.  I will stress test this weekend though.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,131779.0.html
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 23, 2011 at 03:25 PM
thanks for quick response sir stagea.
can you please be specific with the brand and model sir?


Something like the following:
Asus M4A88T-M
Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Feb 24, 2011 at 06:11 AM
^
thanks master's
il look into that..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 24, 2011 at 08:49 AM
I just got the HD5450, and it seems to be sufficient.  I will stress test this weekend though.

http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,131779.0.html

keep us posted bro pao!  :)
me and nerveblocker are planning to get a discrete vga for our HTPC din  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 24, 2011 at 11:09 AM
keep us posted bro pao!  :)
me and nerveblocker are planning to get a discrete vga for our HTPC din  ;D

I will.  Pero problema ko is pag-setup uli nang codecs ko.  I tried playing a DTS track MKV kanina, pero PCM ang lumalabas sa AVR ko.  I'm using KMPlayer, and I have CoreAVC Pro v2.0.  For digital audio, I have AC3Filter.

Any ideas how DD/DTS/TrueHD/DTS-HD can be passed out of the HTPC to the AVR?  Baka kasi I'm using the wrong codecs eh.  I used to be ok with these software tweaks, pero now I'm finding that I don't have much patience anymore (kasi kailangan pa magresearch).  Tumatanda na talaga ako.   :P
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Feb 24, 2011 at 11:20 AM
I will.  Pero problema ko is pag-setup uli nang codecs ko.  I tried playing a DTS track MKV kanina, pero PCM ang lumalabas sa AVR ko.  I'm using KMPlayer, and I have CoreAVC Pro v2.0.  For digital audio, I have AC3Filter.

Any ideas how DD/DTS/TrueHD/DTS-HD can be passed out of the HTPC to the AVR?  Baka kasi I'm using the wrong codecs eh.  I used to be ok with these software tweaks, pero now I'm finding that I don't have much patience anymore (kasi kailangan pa magresearch).  Tumatanda na talaga ako.   :P

Can KMP and/or AC3Filter pass through HD audio via HDMI in the first place?  I havent tried so I dont know.  Legacy DD and DTS should not be a problem with AC3Filter.   I suggest that you try TMT3 instead, or any software player na meron HD Audio Logo. I'm positive there are HD-Audio configuration options within TMT3 settings.  I don't recall the KMP having that kind of configuration option but perhaps invoking an external audio decoder may help.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 24, 2011 at 11:51 AM
Can KMP and/or AC3Filter pass through HD audio via HDMI in the first place?  I havent tried so I dont know.  Legacy DD and DTS should not be a problem with AC3Filter.   I suggest that you try TMT3 instead, or any software player na meron HD Audio Logo. I'm positive there are HD-Audio configuration options within TMT3 settings.  I don't recall the KMP having that kind of configuration option but perhaps invoking an external audio decoder may help.

Thanks Alan.  I'll capture my KMP/AC3Filter settings and post them here, in case continue to encounter problems.  I'll also look into TMT3.  I've not tried TotalMedia Theater before.

These are the HTPC complexities which drive non-techies and impatient users back to the NMT route...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on Feb 24, 2011 at 12:41 PM
I will.  Pero problema ko is pag-setup uli nang codecs ko.  I tried playing a DTS track MKV kanina, pero PCM ang lumalabas sa AVR ko.  I'm using KMPlayer, and I have CoreAVC Pro v2.0.  For digital audio, I have AC3Filter.

Any ideas how DD/DTS/TrueHD/DTS-HD can be passed out of the HTPC to the AVR?  Baka kasi I'm using the wrong codecs eh.  I used to be ok with these software tweaks, pero now I'm finding that I don't have much patience anymore (kasi kailangan pa magresearch).  Tumatanda na talaga ako.   :P

lpcm din po lumalabas sa avr ko when using vlc or mpc player.. pero pag xbmc gamit ko, dts or dd lumalabas sa avr. i know that my card could only passthrough lpcm, pero bakit dts or dd lumalabas pag xbmc gamit ko? baka mero lang din tweak dapat sa vlc or mpc para lumabas din dd or dts... patulong po mga masters..
btw, my vcard is 4650 and sony ht-ss370 avr
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Feb 25, 2011 at 07:52 AM
lpcm din po lumalabas sa avr ko when using vlc or mpc player.. pero pag xbmc gamit ko, dts or dd lumalabas sa avr. i know that my card could only passthrough lpcm, pero bakit dts or dd lumalabas pag xbmc gamit ko? baka mero lang din tweak dapat sa vlc or mpc para lumabas din dd or dts... patulong po mga masters..
btw, my vcard is 4650 and sony ht-ss370 avr

Question lang po.  How is the 5.1 sound quality of DD/DTS as compared to LPCM?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 25, 2011 at 09:57 AM
Thanks Alan.  I'll capture my KMP/AC3Filter settings and post them here, in case continue to encounter problems.  I'll also look into TMT3.  I've not tried TotalMedia Theater before.

These are the HTPC complexities which drive non-techies and impatient users back to the NMT route...
Bro pao i was using powerdvd or is it cyberlink (pareho lang yata :D ), when i was outputting DTS MA for my Bluray ISO
hth
kmplayer did not play it at all (for some reason, i dont know  :-[ )
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Feb 25, 2011 at 12:11 PM
I will.  Pero problema ko is pag-setup uli nang codecs ko.  I tried playing a DTS track MKV kanina, pero PCM ang lumalabas sa AVR ko.  I'm using KMPlayer, and I have CoreAVC Pro v2.0.  For digital audio, I have AC3Filter.

Any ideas how DD/DTS/TrueHD/DTS-HD can be passed out of the HTPC to the AVR?  Baka kasi I'm using the wrong codecs eh.  I used to be ok with these software tweaks, pero now I'm finding that I don't have much patience anymore (kasi kailangan pa magresearch).  Tumatanda na talaga ako.   :P

Are you using Windows 7? I was able to enable HDMI audio pass-thru for DTS/AC3 and DTS-MA/Dolby True HD with ATI 5770 and Media Player Classic-HC with ffdshow audio decoder. Haven't tried KMplayer before.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on Feb 25, 2011 at 01:36 PM
Question lang po.  How is the 5.1 sound quality of DD/DTS as compared to LPCM?

can't really compare them kase po magkaibang media player gagamitin to output lpcm or dd/dts.. like what i've said, xbmc lang may output sakn na dd/dts.. i guess parehas lang sq (lpcm or dd/dts stream) pag ang source ay dd or dts encoded ang audio.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 25, 2011 at 03:02 PM
Are you using Windows 7? I was able to enable HDMI audio pass-thru for DTS/AC3 and DTS-MA/Dolby True HD with ATI 5770 and Media Player Classic-HC with ffdshow audio decoder. Haven't tried KMplayer before.

Yes sir, Win7 Ultimate 64-bit.

Try ko this weekend ang Win7 Media Center...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 25, 2011 at 08:41 PM
A good tutorial on how to bitsstream HD Audio using MPC-HC and FFDSHOW

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/

Apologies if this has been posted previously...  Ito rin ba ginamit mo for setting up sir firestorm?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: firestorm on Feb 25, 2011 at 10:05 PM
A good tutorial on how to bitsstream HD Audio using MPC-HC and FFDSHOW

http://www.mediasmartserver.net/2010/02/02/guide-setting-up-bitstreaming-with-your-windows-7-htpc-part-i/

Apologies if this has been posted previously...  Ito rin ba ginamit mo for setting up sir firestorm?

Yes I think I used that and other tutorials for setting up. So ok na yun bitstreaming mo?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 26, 2011 at 07:29 PM
I suggest that you try TMT3 instead, or any software player na meron HD Audio Logo. I'm positive there are HD-Audio configuration options within TMT3 settings.

I just installed TMT3, and it already can't play my The Mechanic avi file, nor another MP4 file.  Fast play siya, and chipmunks audio.  Tapos PCM pa rin ang output.  Ni-uninstall ko na lang uli.

I played The Mechanic on Windows Media Center 7, and it is able to output the DTS track correctly.  Tapos ang ganda pa nung video!  When I tried the same on KMP, mas pangit ang video, tapos PCM audio.  Happy na sana ako sa Media Center, pero it looks like medyo heavyweight yung app.  My movie hangs periodically.

I'm now forced with the MPC-HC and FFDSHOW Beta combo.  Sana mag-work na 'to.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Feb 27, 2011 at 08:59 PM
lpcm din po lumalabas sa avr ko when using vlc or mpc player.. pero pag xbmc gamit ko, dts or dd lumalabas sa avr. i know that my card could only passthrough lpcm, pero bakit dts or dd lumalabas pag xbmc gamit ko? baka mero lang din tweak dapat sa vlc or mpc para lumabas din dd or dts... patulong po mga masters..
btw, my vcard is 4650 and sony ht-ss370 avr

Spent most my weekend tweaking my HTPC.  I noticed the same hangs on The Mechanic on all my players, so might be a bad file, or all my players are using the same codec (which might not be the best one).

Anyway, I went back to KMP, and finally got my DD/DTS pass through to work.

In case anyone is interested, below are some links to the screenshots of my KMP setup...

KMPlayer Internal Video Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntVidDecoder.jpg)
KMPlayer External Video Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPExtVidDecoder.jpg)
KMPlayer Internal Audio Decoder Screen (General Tab) (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntAudDecoderGeneral.jpg)
KMPlayer Internal Audio Decoder Screen (Output Tab) (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntAudDecoderOutput.jpg)
KMPlayer External Audio Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPExtAudDecoder.jpg)
ffdshow Audio Decoder Output Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/ffdshowaudiooutputsetup.jpg)

KMPlayer version is 3.0.0.1439
Xvid version is Xvid-1.3.0-22022011
ffdshow version is ffdshow tryouts rev3721 Jan 7 2011
CoreAVC version is CoreAVC Professional Edition v2.0.0 build 7783

KMPlayer is really the most tweakable player out there.  I have put on hold the installation of MPC-HC.  I'm still trying to get hold of a file with TrueHD or DTS-MA.  Next weekend uli...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Feb 28, 2011 at 08:37 AM
Spent most my weekend tweaking my HTPC.  I noticed the same hangs on The Mechanic on all my players, so might be a bad file, or all my players are using the same codec (which might not be the best one).

Anyway, I went back to KMP, and finally got my DD/DTS pass through to work.

In case anyone is interested, below are some links to the screenshots of my KMP setup...

KMPlayer Internal Video Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntVidDecoder.jpg)
KMPlayer External Video Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPExtVidDecoder.jpg)
KMPlayer Internal Audio Decoder Screen (General Tab) (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntAudDecoderGeneral.jpg)
KMPlayer Internal Audio Decoder Screen (Output Tab) (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntAudDecoderOutput.jpg)
KMPlayer External Audio Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPExtAudDecoder.jpg)
ffdshow Audio Decoder Output Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/ffdshowaudiooutputsetup.jpg)

KMPlayer version is 3.0.0.1439
Xvid version is Xvid-1.3.0-22022011
ffdshow version is ffdshow tryouts rev3721 Jan 7 2011
CoreAVC version is CoreAVC Professional Edition v2.0.0 build 7783

KMPlayer is really the most tweakable player out there.  I have put on hold the installation of MPC-HC.  I'm still trying to get hold of a file with TrueHD or DTS-MA.  Next weekend uli...

Nice one bro.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Feb 28, 2011 at 11:44 AM
paolo talagang matinik ang bagong KMPlayer  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 01, 2011 at 11:38 PM
Question po mga gurus.. is there a way to speed up the copying process using USB port po. kasi ang bagal pag mga malalaking file size na po eh.. is there any tweak that I can use to speed up the copy procedure? salamat po...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 02, 2011 at 06:01 AM
Mahirap na i-tweak yan sir.  Because our HD movie files are gigantic, wala na tayong masyadong magagawa para pabilisin ang USB transfer.

Since madalas mo na gagawin yan, may I suggest you invest in a HDD dock with eSata connector (assuming may eSata port ang HTPC mo).  Kung wala naman, you can get those internal-to-external SATA brackets (assuming you have a spare SATA port on your mobo), like these ones from Monoprice...

(http://images2.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/23671.jpg)(http://images2.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/23711.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: popejerico on Mar 02, 2011 at 08:07 AM
You may opt to get an io gear enclosure. Pwede syang esata or usb2.0. Pero to answer your question, wala pong paraan para iboost ang pagtransfer ng file from one hdd through another using usb. However, you may also cancel/turn off any other running programs na kumakain ng memory mo po para maoptimize mo yung transfer mo. Sa akin may difference yan. Pag nagtratransfer ako ng HD files from my netbook to my external drive. Pero para maging mas mabilis pa sya wala na talaga. :-)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Mar 02, 2011 at 11:46 AM
+1 dito.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 02, 2011 at 01:07 PM
Mahirap na i-tweak yan sir.  Because our HD movie files are gigantic, wala na tayong masyadong magagawa para pabilisin ang USB transfer.

Since madalas mo na gagawin yan, may I suggest you invest in a HDD dock with eSata connector (assuming may eSata port ang HTPC mo).  Kung wala naman, you can get those internal-to-external SATA brackets (assuming you have a spare SATA port on your mobo), like these ones from Monoprice...

(http://images2.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/23671.jpg)(http://images2.monoprice.com/productmediumimages/23711.jpg)


Sir paololorenzo, magkano yan.. kasi po may extra sata port yung mobo na nabili ko...available po ba yan locally...? salamat...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 02, 2011 at 02:35 PM

Sir paololorenzo, magkano yan.. kasi po may extra sata port yung mobo na nabili ko...available po ba yan locally...? salamat...

I'm sure meron shops na nag-benta nito, but I don't know where.  There are some shops in Megamall Cyberzone which sell hard-to-find accessories and peripherals, you can try your luck there.  You can also check TipidPC marketplace.

Sa Monoprice, it's listed below US$4.  You can join the Monoprice group buy thread (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,114389.0.html).  I think it shouldn't cost more than P500, landed price.  But I may be wrong.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: RDyENT on Mar 02, 2011 at 03:11 PM
Question po mga gurus.. is there a way to speed up the copying process using USB port po. kasi ang bagal pag mga malalaking file size na po eh.. is there any tweak that I can use to speed up the copy procedure? salamat po...

Try this one

Speed up file copying with TeraCopy (http://lifehacker.com/#!263492/speed-up-file-copying-with-teracopy)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: popejerico on Mar 02, 2011 at 03:36 PM
Try this one

Speed up file copying with TeraCopy (http://lifehacker.com/#!263492/speed-up-file-copying-with-teracopy)

Masubukan din. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 02, 2011 at 07:18 PM
Try this one

Speed up file copying with TeraCopy (http://lifehacker.com/#!263492/speed-up-file-copying-with-teracopy)

Sige sir I'll try this one.. so far 1 tweak works for me po...Another thing for speed, I have my USB drive optimized for performance.
Go to My Computer->Properties->Hardware->DeviceManager->Disk Drives->(external one here)->Properties->Policies->Optimize for performance, but do not forget to unplug the device the proper way (that is Unplug or eject hardware...) Down side of this one is pag hindi mo ma-eject yung drive.. need mo pa shutdoen yung PC or use an application to force eject the USB drive...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: popejerico on Mar 05, 2011 at 09:50 AM
Tried Teracopy and the transfer speed is noticeable. 4GB transfer from external to internal at 2:41sec @25MB/sec using usb2 dati ata mga approximately 3-4mins din. internal to external (4gb) 2:05sec @33mb/sec

Tested with AMD (Quadcore) B55 X4 @3.4GH
4gb Ram

Maya try ko sa netbook naman since eto gamit ko pang dload hehe!

Thanks sa free software na ito bro! :-)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 05, 2011 at 10:11 AM
Spent most my weekend tweaking my HTPC.  I noticed the same hangs on The Mechanic on all my players, so might be a bad file, or all my players are using the same codec (which might not be the best one).

Anyway, I went back to KMP, and finally got my DD/DTS pass through to work.

In case anyone is interested, below are some links to the screenshots of my KMP setup...

KMPlayer Internal Video Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntVidDecoder.jpg)
KMPlayer External Video Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPExtVidDecoder.jpg)
KMPlayer Internal Audio Decoder Screen (General Tab) (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntAudDecoderGeneral.jpg)
KMPlayer Internal Audio Decoder Screen (Output Tab) (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPIntAudDecoderOutput.jpg)
KMPlayer External Audio Decoder Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/KMPExtAudDecoder.jpg)
ffdshow Audio Decoder Output Screen (http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r196/paolorenzo/My%20Home%20Theater/ffdshowaudiooutputsetup.jpg)

KMPlayer version is 3.0.0.1439
Xvid version is Xvid-1.3.0-22022011
ffdshow version is ffdshow tryouts rev3721 Jan 7 2011
CoreAVC version is CoreAVC Professional Edition v2.0.0 build 7783

KMPlayer is really the most tweakable player out there.  I have put on hold the installation of MPC-HC.  I'm still trying to get hold of a file with TrueHD or DTS-MA.  Next weekend uli...

Sir Paulo, pano i-access yung settings na to sa KMPlayer? I cant seem to find it  ???
Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 05, 2011 at 11:45 AM
Sir Paulo, pano i-access yung settings na to sa KMPlayer? I cant seem to find it  ???
Thanks!  :)

Right click > Options > Preferences
Or press F2

Look under Filter Control / Decoder Usage.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 05, 2011 at 08:01 PM
Right click > Options > Preferences
Or press F2

Look under Filter Control / Decoder Usage.

Thanks sir paulo.
In the external video decoder, how can I be able to show ffdshow and coreAVC from the drop down menu? I already installed both in my netbook. Thanks again  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 05, 2011 at 08:13 PM
Thanks sir paulo.
In the external video decoder, how can I be able to show ffdshow and coreAVC from the drop down menu? I already installed both in my netbook. Thanks again  :)

There should be an external decoder search button, then select Add External Codec button.  Then point it to the folder where codec was installed.  Look for the .ax or .dll file, and select.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Mar 05, 2011 at 09:39 PM
There should be an external decoder search button, then select Add External Codec button.  Then point it to the folder where codec was installed.  Look for the .ax or .dll file, and select.

Ok sir. thanks again for the help  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 05, 2011 at 11:00 PM
Mga gurus question po about esata if I have an esata HDD dock and yung mobo ko is may spare na sata slot how ko po connect yun? How can I connect it to my HTPC?Parehas lang po ba ng cable ang sata at esata? gagana po ba yun? salamat..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Mar 06, 2011 at 12:23 AM
sir jnazareta...
iba po cable ng sata and esata...
but there are sata to esata cables... you can buy...

a sata to esata cable would cost around 100php po...
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af332/cooltechpcpics/esataport02.jpg)
i would suggest an esata pci out po sa likod
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/RHIQ/rhiq%201/esatabracket.jpg)
these cost 300 pesos...

but kailangan lang po... naka kabit na lahat... pagboot para ito gumana.. hindi po kaya hot swap...

i got mine sa... ground floor ng gilmore it center... sa bandang likod.. pangalan yata ng store is... usb expert..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 06, 2011 at 02:10 AM
sir jnazareta...
iba po cable ng sata and esata...
but there are sata to esata cables... you can buy...

a sata to esata cable would cost around 100php po...
(http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af332/cooltechpcpics/esataport02.jpg)
i would suggest an esata pci out po sa likod
(http://i774.photobucket.com/albums/yy26/RHIQ/rhiq%201/esatabracket.jpg)
these cost 300 pesos...

but kailangan lang po... naka kabit na lahat... pagboot para ito gumana.. hindi po kaya hot swap...

i got mine sa... ground floor ng gilmore it center... sa bandang likod.. pangalan yata ng store is... usb expert..


Sir AC may configuration pa ba na needed para gumana ito or plug n play lang..? salamat..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Mar 06, 2011 at 12:17 PM
saakin po... wala din tunay na esata motherboard ko...
it is plug and play... most likely plug and play lang din po sainyo...

but reminder lang po.. its not going to work like a real esata.... kelangan naka connect na lahat pag boboot kayo....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Alfie on Mar 06, 2011 at 12:33 PM
There's an easy way, right click my computer, click manage, click device manager, highly disc drives then click scan for hardware changes, the HDD connected to esata will now be recognized.

If your OS is Vista or W7 you don't need to do the above.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on Mar 06, 2011 at 05:05 PM

salamat po sa tip sir alfie s tip
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 06, 2011 at 09:08 PM
I bought a Sata+Power combined cable at Digitag today for P90.  Similar to the one below, but nicer (available in neon blue or neon orange).

(http://www.ocp.com/product_search/images/products/photos/70964.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 07, 2011 at 09:00 AM
I bought a Sata+Power combined cable at Digitag today for P90.  Similar to the one below, but nicer (available in neon blue or neon orange).

(http://www.ocp.com/product_search/images/products/photos/70964.jpg)
san ito bro?  meron ba sila with longer cables?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Mar 07, 2011 at 09:18 AM
oo nga san ung digitag?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 07, 2011 at 10:07 AM
san ito bro?  meron ba sila with longer cables?

They also have the SATA extension cable, in case you need longer lengths, and also priced at P90.

Digitag is the official distributor of the Kaiboer Media Players.  They're almost at the corner of Broadway Ave. and Aurora Blvd, right across of the Petron gas Station.  Their website is http://www.ebuyph.com/index.asp.

(http://www.ebuyph.com/map2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 08, 2011 at 07:44 AM
thanks bro pao! :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Mar 08, 2011 at 09:22 AM
thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Mar 09, 2011 at 01:00 PM
Pls help me, bakit po may popping sound sa speakers pag malakas na yung sound sa movies specially pag blast scenes na? nacheck ko na yung speaker wires tama naman lahat polarity at wala namang loose
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 09, 2011 at 01:41 PM
Pls help me, bakit po may popping sound sa speakers pag malakas na yung sound sa movies specially pag blast scenes na? nacheck ko na yung speaker wires tama naman lahat polarity at wala namang loose


Check your AVR if your speakers are set to large. Just try to set it to small and let the low frequencies be handled all by your sub.  You can also set the frequency cut off your sub to 100HZ or higher.

Your speakers might not be able to handle those low frequencies thus the clipping/popping sound or you just might be playing your movies too loud.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Mar 09, 2011 at 07:25 PM
Doc before naman po walang popping sound, nakaset po front speakers to small then nakaset po lahat ng frequencies cut off to 80hz including the sub's lfe.  I'm using po aaudio tritower as fronts, JBL N-Center II & 
Try ko pong magreinstall ng ffdshow, nagdownload kasi ako ng ffdshow tryouts(beta) baka yun po ang culprit.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Mar 13, 2011 at 02:13 AM
Doc before naman po walang popping sound, nakaset po front speakers to small then nakaset po lahat ng frequencies cut off to 80hz including the sub's lfe.  I'm using po aaudio tritower as fronts, JBL N-Center II &  
Try ko pong magreinstall ng ffdshow, nagdownload kasi ako ng ffdshow tryouts(beta) baka yun po ang culprit.
yung pagdescribe mo kasi nung problem bro parang sa hardware ata and di sa software ang problema.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 14, 2011 at 05:21 AM
Doc before naman po walang popping sound, nakaset po front speakers to small then nakaset po lahat ng frequencies cut off to 80hz including the sub's lfe.  I'm using po aaudio tritower as fronts, JBL N-Center II & 
Try ko pong magreinstall ng ffdshow, nagdownload kasi ako ng ffdshow tryouts(beta) baka yun po ang culprit.

If you have checked your speaker wires, also check interconnects. Baka may nagshoshort.
Have you assessed if the popping sound is coming from one speaker or both speakers? Pag isolated lang, it must be the speaker driver. Baka bumigay yung driver edge. If it's Aaudio, you can request Anthony to have it assessed.   
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blue_123 on Mar 14, 2011 at 12:24 PM
Hi all, I'm planning to move my desktop pc to my room & convert it to a htpc, but my avr does not have a hdmi input yet, just coaxial & optical and my soundcard does not have a optical/coaxial out either is there soundcard available that has digital out, so I could use dolby or dts to my avr? Thanks!  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Mar 14, 2011 at 01:37 PM
If you have checked your speaker wires, also check interconnects. Baka may nagshoshort.
Have you assessed if the popping sound is coming from one speaker or both speakers? Pag isolated lang, it must be the speaker driver. Baka bumigay yung driver edge. If it's Aaudio, you can request Anthony to have it assessed.   

Ok na po Doc, I installed previous version ng ffdshow, di ko rin alam kung anong nangyari sa dating settings ng ffdshow e kung bakit nagkapopping sounds ??? 

yung pagdescribe mo kasi nung problem bro parang sa hardware ata and di sa software ang problema.

oo nga parang ang gulo ng description ko no ??? pero ok naman na tumama naman yung suspek ko e ;) musta brader ninj?  mukhang nahawaan mo ng SARS si brader joelsoldao ha? svs all-the-way na din ba sya?


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Mar 14, 2011 at 06:56 PM
Ok na po Doc, I installed previous version ng ffdshow, di ko rin alam kung anong nangyari sa dating settings ng ffdshow e kung bakit nagkapopping sounds ???  



Bro, glad everything is ok with your system.  Sometimes the newer version of a software is buggy.  As the saying goes "Don't fix it if it ain't broke"  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 16, 2011 at 09:41 AM
Hi:

Blue_123 you can get a soundcard with optical output / coaxial such as the Asus Xonar and Creative soundcards. Xonar sounds better though. The Asus Xonar is a reference card used by stereophile (but costs USD 180). It performs better than USB cards even the high end ones when used to connect to external DACs.

You can also get a USB Soundcard / DAC with digital output. Check out the marketplace and computer shops for your options.

Cheers
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blue_123 on Mar 16, 2011 at 07:54 PM
Hi:

Blue_123 you can get a soundcard with optical output / coaxial such as the Asus Xonar and Creative soundcards. Xonar sounds better though. The Asus Xonar is a reference card used by stereophile (but costs USD 180). It performs better than USB cards even the high end ones when used to connect to external DACs.

You can also get a USB Soundcard / DAC with digital output. Check out the marketplace and computer shops for your options.

Cheers

Thanks FrancisD. Will be checking out computer shops soon!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ikatrese on Mar 18, 2011 at 10:39 PM
hi. i want to build my first HTPC. can you suggest the best (but affordable) hardwares? thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: FrancisD on Mar 19, 2011 at 01:29 AM
I think the best affordable may be the ones based on the amd e-350. But I am / people are still waiting for actual reviews when people actually buy this and builds one...

Please post those who have this. The board (including CPU) costs less than Php 6,000 base on posts at tipid pc (previous posts with links). This is a low power board that can do HTPC with great video quality with HDMI audio pass through...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Mar 20, 2011 at 08:09 PM
mga master ano ang 880g base mobo na pwede sa itx casing?
TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Mar 23, 2011 at 01:00 AM
mga masters,sa dami ng board na pinagpipilian ko wala nako maisip bilin dahil naghalo halo na sa utak ko ang mga specs ng ibat ibang mobo at brand.all i need for mainboard are..
>AM3
>support lossless audio
>support s/pdif
>support usb3
>cheapest but reliable.yung magagamit ko ng matagal bago mag upgrade.
this is my 1st HTPC kaya ingat na ingat sa kapipili ng mobo.
at hindi rin kalakihan ang budget.
maraming salamat po mga master
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Mar 23, 2011 at 04:58 PM
Mga Sirs,

from laptop to receiver, HDMI connection, papano po ba ang setting para makapag output sa speakers ng 5.1 sound?

player ko sa laptop ko ay ung Kmplayer minsan media player classic..

ung file na pine-play ko 5.1 naman kse pag gamit ko ung wdtv 5.1 ang lumalabas..

Thanks..:)
christian
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Mar 24, 2011 at 01:50 PM
condigure mo brader sa ffdshow > passthrough to spdif, ac3, dd, dts, dts hd, etc.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: klpangan on Mar 24, 2011 at 04:19 PM
Mga bros...wala pa ba sa inyo naginvest ng mini PCs????

http://www.zotacusa.com/products/mini-pcs
http://us.msi.com/index.php?func=prodpage1&maincat_no=134

available na ito locally... Planning to buy one pero di pa sure kung ano ang best buy.... okay kasi ito kung talaga SFF ang habol natin.... and yung comsumption ng kuryente 30W lang full load na imagine mas malakas pa ang florescent lamp natin sa sala hehehe....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blake on Mar 24, 2011 at 04:43 PM
hdmi capable na ba yang mini pc?

magkano naman
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: klpangan on Mar 24, 2011 at 04:55 PM
hdmi and built-in wifi.... astig nga eh.. range ng pricing nasa 10k to 14k complete set na un....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blake on Mar 24, 2011 at 07:48 PM
san meron ?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Mar 27, 2011 at 03:00 AM
mga papi, saan ba makakabili ng slim type sata bd-rom drive? yun lang kasi kaya i-accomodate ng htpc casing ko eh. salamat sa makakasagot. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 27, 2011 at 08:28 AM
mga papi, saan ba makakabili ng slim type sata bd-rom drive? yun lang kasi kaya i-accomodate ng htpc casing ko eh. salamat sa makakasagot. :)

Nakabili ako sa isang TipidPC seller, 2nd hand.  It sells for about P1,000 now.

Problema ko is the slimline SATA cable for this drive.  Sata connector is the same, but the sata power connector is slim type, 6-pin (not standard 15-pin).  You will need to think about this too.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Mar 27, 2011 at 11:18 PM
Nakabili ako sa isang TipidPC seller, 2nd hand.  It sells for about P1,000 now.

Problema ko is the slimline SATA cable for this drive.  Sata connector is the same, but the sata power connector is slim type, 6-pin (not standard 15-pin).  You will need to think about this too.

talaga bro? 1K lang for a second hand BD-ROM drive? hmmmm... mura! can you pm me the seller pls and his contact number if possible? baka meron pa sya bibilihin ko na (sana meron pa). i think you've already resolved the slimline SATA cable concern with this one:


(http://www.ocp.com/product_search/images/products/photos/70964.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Mar 27, 2011 at 11:40 PM
bro ako din po papm.. bluray drive seller

thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Mar 28, 2011 at 07:58 AM
Me too brader pao  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: cHess on Mar 28, 2011 at 01:22 PM
paki post na lang dito bro para sa lahat ng interesado. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Mar 28, 2011 at 04:17 PM
Due to insistent public demand...   ;)  Seller is watchmode10

http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=watchmode10

@Blackstar, standard sata+sata power cable po yan (7+15 pins).  Slimline sata cables should be 7+6pins.  The search continues po.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Mar 29, 2011 at 08:50 AM
@Blackstar, standard sata+sata power cable po yan (7+15 pins).  Slimline sata cables should be 7+6pins.  The search continues po.

ah ok. anyway, salamat sa info on the bluray drive bro. will go check it. goodluck with the hunt for the slimline sata cables. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Dowals on Apr 02, 2011 at 01:01 PM
(http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/AMD-Brazos-Used-in-MSI-s-E350IA-E45-Mini-ITX-Motherboard-2.jpg)

MSI E350IA-E45
CPU: Integrated AMD Zacate-FT1 APU Zacate E350, dual core
Chipset: AMD Hudson M1 Chipset

anyone have this already (or similar)? kamusta kaya for htpc?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunslinger on Apr 04, 2011 at 06:51 AM
Posting my question here.

We got the HPDM1 a couple of days ago and I tried to hook it up with my 42PV80 last night. I was disappointed on how the picture looked on the big screen. It's not as sharp as expected and the whole desktop screen would not fit into the TV. Even my XDE500 is better in terms of PQ. Are there settings I need to tweak?

The netbook was connected to my HKAVR160 rather than directly to the TV via HDMI. And even the audio is not detected properly. The AVR display doesn't show if its Dolby or DTS. I used VLC to play my HD files. 

I'm sure I am missing something that needs doing because PQ/AQ was just too disappointing. Any help in what to install or check would be appreciated.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Pajd on Apr 05, 2011 at 09:28 PM
Hi! patulong naman.. anong latest mobo preferably ASUS brand main priority is to use external DAC.

-S/PDIF output (Coaxial+Optical)
-HDMI + DVI Out

Thanks! ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Apr 07, 2011 at 04:00 PM
Guys wala akong ka-idea idea regarding kung anong magandang video graphics card ang alam ko lang basta 1gb sya maganda. so naghanap hanap ako at eto ung bibilin ko Radeon HD 6770. 1 gig daw kse ito sabi ng pag bibilan ko.

Tanong ko lang kung okay ba toh?

Salamat
Christian
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: FrancisD on Apr 07, 2011 at 10:06 PM
Video Card HD 6770

Video cards matter, specially if you need the HD audio output through HDMI. For HTPC, the Hd 5450 is good enough. For light gaming, the HD 5670 is more than adequate. If you dont need HDMI HD audio output and you want to do light gaming, the GT 240 GDDR5 is a good choice.

For HTPC and light gaming, 512MB is more than adequate. The chipset is more important than the 1GB spec. The HD 6770 may be over spec when using this as just a HTTPC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: FrancisD on Apr 07, 2011 at 10:10 PM
Asus Mobo

If you want the best sound quality, you need a good sound card to output coaxial or spdif from the PC. using the output from Mobo with an integrated coaxial or spdif output usually results in inferior sound quality. This appears to be how these are implemented with the mobo. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunslinger on Apr 08, 2011 at 06:55 AM
Posting my question here.

We got the HPDM1 a couple of days ago and I tried to hook it up with my 42PV80 last night. I was disappointed on how the picture looked on the big screen. It's not as sharp as expected and the whole desktop screen would not fit into the TV. Even my XDE500 is better in terms of PQ. Are there settings I need to tweak?

The netbook was connected to my HKAVR160 rather than directly to the TV via HDMI. And even the audio is not detected properly. The AVR display doesn't show if its Dolby or DTS. I used VLC to play my HD files. 

I'm sure I am missing something that needs doing because PQ/AQ was just too disappointing. Any help in what to install or check would be appreciated.
Finally able to fix this by turning off the overscan setting in the PV80. Thanks to google. ;D Playing 1080p movies is better now after a couple of hours use. It does still have problem though on dropped frames when you fast forward scenes but if you just play the movie straight, it shouldn't have any problem.
I'm only using VLC btw. Are there better players out there? 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Apr 08, 2011 at 08:01 PM
my new toy..

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/2259/mynewtoy.jpg)
special thanks to
>xrampage
>stagea
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Apr 08, 2011 at 09:34 PM
Finally able to fix this by turning off the overscan setting in the PV80. Thanks to google. ;D Playing 1080p movies is better now after a couple of hours use. It does still have problem though on dropped frames when you fast forward scenes but if you just play the movie straight, it shouldn't have any problem.
I'm only using VLC btw. Are there better players out there? 

You can try these brader:

mpc http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/ (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/)
kmplayer  http://kmplayer.en.softonic.com/download

Configuring kmplayer  http://imouto.my/configuring-kmplayer-to-play-h-264-videos-using-microsofts-directx-video-acceleration-dxva-and-nvidias-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/ (http://imouto.my/configuring-kmplayer-to-play-h-264-videos-using-microsofts-directx-video-acceleration-dxva-and-nvidias-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/)


hth Brader :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: red_one on Apr 09, 2011 at 09:33 AM
guys, when i watch 1080p MKV file on KMPlayer using default internal codec, it plays without problem. when i watch the same movie using DXVA [MPCVideoDec.ax], there is no video, but there is sound. what seems to be the problem?

i got the steps from this sites:
> http://www.cos-soft.eu.pn/tutorialkmplayer.html
> http://imouto.my/configuring-kmplayer-to-play-h-264-videos-using-microsofts-directx-video-acceleration-dxva-and-nvidias-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/

when i use MPC-HC, it plays without problem but i just prefer using KMPlayer. please help.

my PC has Intel Pentium E5400, 4GB RAM, 512MB ATI HD4350, Windows 7 64-bit.

Screenshots:

using KMPlayer Default:
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/winky_wink/KMP_InternalCodec.jpg)

using DXVA [MPCVideoDec.ax]:
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/winky_wink/KMP_DXVA.jpg)

using MPC-HC:
(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/winky_wink/MPC_DXVA.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: gunslinger on Apr 12, 2011 at 07:04 AM
You can try these brader:

mpc http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/ (http://mpc-hc.sourceforge.net/)
kmplayer  http://kmplayer.en.softonic.com/download

Configuring kmplayer  http://imouto.my/configuring-kmplayer-to-play-h-264-videos-using-microsofts-directx-video-acceleration-dxva-and-nvidias-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/ (http://imouto.my/configuring-kmplayer-to-play-h-264-videos-using-microsofts-directx-video-acceleration-dxva-and-nvidias-compute-unified-device-architecture-cuda/)
I'll give this a try over the weekend bro. Thanks.

hth Brader :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: red_one on Apr 14, 2011 at 08:26 PM
since i could not display the video using DXVA [MPCVideoDec.ax] on KMPlayer (after following all the online guides available), i decided to find another solution through CoreAVC Pro 2.5.1 and i am glad to report that it simply works.

CoreAVC Professional
CoreAVC is known in the industry as being the standard for playback of high quality H.264 video.  The new CoreAVC Decoder allows you to offload video decoding to any accelerated decoder that works with either NVIDIA CUDA or ATI with Microsoft's DirectX Video Acceleration (DXVA) interface for any Windows XP, Vista, or Windows 7 PC.

http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc (http://corecodec.com/products/coreavc)

CPU Utilization:
KMPlayer Default -- 53%
KMPlayer with DXVA [MPC-HC decoder] -- 26% (with sound, but no video)
KMPlayer with DXVA [CoreAVC Pro decoder] -- 18%

here's the screenshot:

(http://i1205.photobucket.com/albums/bb424/winky_wink/KMP_CoreAVCPro.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on Apr 14, 2011 at 08:39 PM
^good job bro.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jnazareta on May 03, 2011 at 09:54 AM
Mga fellow pinoydvd.. ask ko lang po.. kasi I use KMplayer with coreavc pero bakit po yung mga 1080P movies ko ay nag play as fast forward..but when I use Media classic OK naman po. 720P movies plays with no issue. I follow the guide po sa taas regarding configuring kmplayer. ... same issue sa windows media player.. ano po kaya ang problem and ano ang solution? thanks po...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: seymorebutts on May 12, 2011 at 07:10 AM
(http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/images/news2/AMD-Brazos-Used-in-MSI-s-E350IA-E45-Mini-ITX-Motherboard-2.jpg)

MSI E350IA-E45
CPU: Integrated AMD Zacate-FT1 APU Zacate E350, dual core
Chipset: AMD Hudson M1 Chipset

anyone have this already (or similar)? kamusta kaya for htpc?

i am currently building one kaya lang asrock, will provide feedback once nabuo na ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: seymorebutts on Jun 01, 2011 at 12:15 PM
hello,

i recently build a zacate based pc for htpc, connected to an hd ready 32" lcdtv via hdmi, bakit hindi ko ma-set sa tamang display setting? it can be too big na hindi ko makita yung taskbar or small na may border. i also tried connecting it sa avr ko via hdmi and avr to lcdtv via hdmi din, same result. anyone knows how to fix this? sa lcd monitor ko naman na 1366x768, ok naman display nya....

thanks in advance!

and btw, any rough estimate how much power it will draw per hdd na ilalagay ko?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: paolorenzo on Jun 01, 2011 at 12:39 PM
hello,

i recently build a zacate based pc for htpc, connected to an hd ready 32" lcdtv via hdmi, bakit hindi ko ma-set sa tamang display setting? it can be too big na hindi ko makita yung taskbar or small na may border. i also tried connecting it sa avr ko via hdmi and avr to lcdtv via hdmi din, same result. anyone knows how to fix this? sa lcd monitor ko naman na 1366x768, ok naman display nya....

thanks in advance!

and btw, any rough estimate how much power it will draw per hdd na ilalagay ko?

Possibly an issue with your ATI Display driver?  If the latest ATI driver package doesn't work try to roll back to a previous version.  Dapat ma-auto detect niya yung native resolution mo (in your case, WXGA I think).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: seymorebutts on Jun 01, 2011 at 12:52 PM
Possibly an issue with your ATI Display driver?  If the latest ATI driver package doesn't work try to roll back to a previous version.  Dapat ma-auto detect niya yung native resolution mo (in your case, WXGA I think).

pero sir pag ikinabit ko sa avr ko, nakikita ko mismo sa avr settings na ang input nya is 1080p, tapos i tried setting the output to 1080i or 720p, panget talaga, hindi nya ma-capture ng tama yung display which is 1080i....

pag idineretso ko naman sa lcdtv, ang nakalagay na recommended setting sa pc ay 1920x1080, pero hindi naka-indicate kung i or p, so pag yun ang na-select ko, nagfi-flicker yung screen, means hindi kaya ng display, so i have to reboot para ma-detect nya ulit display ko  :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: coolswitch on Jun 02, 2011 at 09:38 AM
Currently having an issue with the ff players:

Powerdvd 11
Windows Media Center

Issue: Low Volume

Pero when played using MPC-HC, XBMC, WMP and KMP ok naman ang volume.

I have tried to Uninstall/Reinstall, DL/Install Codec Packs, played around with audio settings, Volume Control settings. Same low volume issue pa rin when using PDVD11 and WMC.

Any Idea what needs to be done or configured?

May mga movies kasi na gusto ko PQ when played in PDVD11 and/or WMC


Specs:
Win7 Ultimate 32bit
Emaxx AMD880HD3-PRO
AMD Athlon II x2 250 3.0ghz
2gb RAM
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: kid on Jun 03, 2011 at 10:59 AM
Currently having an issue with the ff players:

Powerdvd 11
Windows Media Center

Issue: Low Volume

Pero when played using MPC-HC, XBMC, WMP and KMP ok naman ang volume.

I have tried to Uninstall/Reinstall, DL/Install Codec Packs, played around with audio settings, Volume Control settings. Same low volume issue pa rin when using PDVD11 and WMC.

Any Idea what needs to be done or configured?

May mga movies kasi na gusto ko PQ when played in PDVD11 and/or WMC


Specs:
Win7 Ultimate 32bit
Emaxx AMD880HD3-PRO
AMD Athlon II x2 250 3.0ghz
2gb RAM

koms, currently using pdvd10 without any issues on low volume. meron ka na bang realtek audio codec? mas malakas pa ang volume pag pdvd10 ang gamit ko unlike MPC-HC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: omegan on Jun 04, 2011 at 09:11 PM
guys, bakit kaya tumitigil ang audio ng htpc ko pag pinapatay ko ang tv.  pinapatay ko kasi ang tv pag nakikinig lang ako ng concert kaso nawawala din ang audio.  btw, nakakabit ang htpc ko sa onkyo receiver. thanks....
 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jun 05, 2011 at 04:12 AM
guys, bakit kaya tumitigil ang audio ng htpc ko pag pinapatay ko ang tv.  pinapatay ko kasi ang tv pag nakikinig lang ako ng concert kaso nawawala din ang audio.  btw, nakakabit ang htpc ko sa onkyo receiver. thanks....
 

Nawawalan ng detected display. HDMI is a hot-pluggable connection, therefore pag may nawalang device (or may nadagdag) sa link magtatry siya magredetect kung ano pang meron. The PC sends audio together with the video, kung wala siyang makitang display usually hindi siya magsesend ng audio (unless you have a way to force it to).

Try mo din sindihan yung scaling nung Onkyo AVR kung meron, baka mafake yung PC na display siya (kaya lang baka mag-deteriorate yung video quality).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: coolswitch on Jun 05, 2011 at 05:34 AM
I just finished reinstalling Win7 and reformatted my spare 500GB HDD

Wadapaks, I made one of the biggest blunder... my favorite HD movies are gone.

I know I drag and dropped it on my main drive before reformat to save a copy, as I saw the copy progress bar on screen....









 
...not unless I drag and dropped it on the same 500GB HDD but on a different folder  :'(  :'(  :'(




And to make it worse, issue with Power DVD remains. Even tried using PDVD10
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Jun 05, 2011 at 09:16 AM
I just finished reinstalling Win7 and reformatted my spare 500GB HDD

Wadapaks, I made one of the biggest blunder... my favorite HD movies are gone.

I know I drag and dropped it on my main drive before reformat to save a copy, as I saw the copy progress bar on screen....









 
...not unless I drag and dropped it on the same 500GB HDD but on a different folder  :'(  :'(  :'(




And to make it worse, issue with Power DVD remains. Even tried using PDVD10

so sorry to hear that bro. how unfortunate... :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: omegan on Jun 05, 2011 at 10:50 AM
Nawawalan ng detected display. HDMI is a hot-pluggable connection, therefore pag may nawalang device (or may nadagdag) sa link magtatry siya magredetect kung ano pang meron. The PC sends audio together with the video, kung wala siyang makitang display usually hindi siya magsesend ng audio (unless you have a way to force it to).

Try mo din sindihan yung scaling nung Onkyo AVR kung meron, baka mafake yung PC na display siya (kaya lang baka mag-deteriorate yung video quality).

thank you sir.  mas maganda pa pala nung direkta sa motherboard pa ang hdmi connection ko, walang ganung issue, na fake siguro yung PC. ngayon kasi naglagay ako ng gt220 na videocard
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: favalc on Jun 24, 2011 at 07:29 PM
guys noob question..

I am currently using my 2 year old Acer M5711 as an HTPC with WMC7 as my player, it has HDMI out but
my problem is that my sound card has no Optical Out (toslink) to connect my PC to my non-hdmi receiver.

Will these solve my problem?  ??? ??? ???

Branded 5.1 external sound card around P4,000 here in the Phil.
(http://www.everythingusb.com/images/list/creative_sound_blaster_x_fi_news.jpg)

or

Unknown Chinese Brand around P2,000 when imported
(http://gadjetsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/usb_to_spdif2.jpg)

please help..  ???
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jun 25, 2011 at 06:11 PM
guys noob question..

I am currently using my 2 year old Acer M5711 as an HTPC with WMC7 as my player, it has HDMI out but
my problem is that my sound card has no Optical Out (toslink) to connect my PC to my non-hdmi receiver.

Will these solve my problem?  ??? ??? ???

Branded 5.1 external sound card around P4,000 here in the Phil.
(http://www.everythingusb.com/images/list/creative_sound_blaster_x_fi_news.jpg)

or

Unknown Chinese Brand around P2,000 when imported
(http://gadjetsblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/usb_to_spdif2.jpg)

please help..  ???


Yes they would. :)

CD-R King sells an even cheaper option (990PhP according to their website), if you're okay with fixed 48/16 output for LPCM. It can bitstream AC3, DTS and WMA Pro as well.

Here's a link to the product:
http://www.encore-usa.com/us/taxonomy/term/366/all (http://www.encore-usa.com/us/taxonomy/term/366/all)

Borix acquired one the other day:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,138954.60.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,138954.60.html)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 26, 2011 at 06:41 AM
Yes they would. :)

CD-R King sells an even cheaper option (990PhP according to their website), if you're okay with a fixed 48/16 output.

Here's a link to the product:
http://www.encore-usa.com/us/taxonomy/term/366/all (http://www.encore-usa.com/us/taxonomy/term/366/all)

Borix acquired one the other day:
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,138954.60.html (http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php/topic,138954.60.html)
nice find stagea! :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: coolswitch on Jun 26, 2011 at 09:45 AM
Need pa ba nung nasa taas kung na-re-assign naman yung ports nung  onboard audio?   TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jun 26, 2011 at 10:26 AM
nice find stagea! :D

Thanks Ninjababez! :) It's been around sa CD-R King since late 2009 ata, wala lang pumapansin masyado (hence Vista pa nakasulat sa box nya, but it should work without a glitch sa Windows 7).

Need pa ba nung nasa taas kung na-re-assign naman yung ports nung  onboard audio?   TIA

If your onboard audio has optical output (or if you're using HDMI), then there'd be no need for this. However, if you're still using analogue mini-jacks, then this might help improve sound quality. Mataas kasi ang noise floor ng analogue output ng internal sound boards usually (you can often hear hiss, buzzing, etc.), madalas lower quality ang components (unless higher-end sound adapter yan), at nagiging path din yung connection ng electrical noise from the PC to the AVR kaya double jeopardy.

Using an optical connection means that digital data is transmitted, so your AVR gets clean information (save for some possible errors and jitter, which are typically minor in comparison). Plus, the optical fiber inside the cable is not electrically conductive... therefore ensuring galvanic isolation between your components (no electrical noise).

In my HTPC, having an electrical connection between the PC and the AVR (coaxial digital, in my case) automatically adds a mild hiss to the sound the moment you turn on the PC (and the AVR's volume is up). This happens whether or not the PC is selected as the source. The reason for this is that the far majority of sound boards (and AVRs) don't have electrically isolated inputs and outputs. An optical connection, on the other hand is always electrically isolated (unless you deliberately make it otherwise). YMMV.

Best of luck. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: favalc on Jun 26, 2011 at 05:10 PM
ayun! thank you Stagea! It's just around the corner lang pala.. hehe! thank you talaga bro..  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jun 27, 2011 at 03:37 AM
ayun! thank you Stagea! It's just around the corner lang pala.. hehe! thank you talaga bro..  ;)

You're welcome, favalc. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: FrancisD on Jun 29, 2011 at 07:52 AM

@favalc

CDR King products usually works. My experience with their soundcards are OK, just dont expect its as good as the branded components in terms of audio quality (my return rate is about 25%). Just use their items a lot during the burn-in period, returns are kind of common and you only get the warranty for a limited period.

USB ports you use in a laptop matter - try changing ports if something doesnt appear to go right, sometimes this fixes it. And unfortunately, ground / hiss problems are common - sometimes these disappear when you use the battery of the laptop and / or  different usb port.

Note that there are soundcards not of the CDR variety that have filters that minimizes hiss problems. And theoretically and commonly, an optical output isolates the hiss problem to your laptop meaning with an optical and there is a hiss, the problem is with the source not the audio components.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blake on Jul 06, 2011 at 08:35 PM
Hi

ok po ba tong mobo/cpu for HTPC

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3681#sp (http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3681#sp)

(http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3681/3717.jpg)

or eto
http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=A330ION (http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=A330ION)
(http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/A330ION.jpg)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blake on Jul 06, 2011 at 08:43 PM
also

(http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3681/3718.jpg)

there are six holes here for sounds I assumed, is it compatible with analog audio wire?

so I can connect it to 5.1 speaker?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Jul 06, 2011 at 10:30 PM
also

(http://www.gigabyte.com/fileupload/product/2/3681/3718.jpg)

there are six holes here for sounds I assumed, is it compatible with analog audio wire?

so I can connect it to 5.1 speaker?

 only 3 of that analog you need for 5.1 set up and 4 for 7.1.
others is for mic etc
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: blake on Jul 07, 2011 at 09:48 PM
only 3 of that analog you need for 5.1 set up and 4 for 7.1.
others is for mic etc

so I need a splitter type cable for this to work on my 5.1 speakers
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Jul 08, 2011 at 09:45 AM
so I need a splitter type cable for this to work on my 5.1 speakers

what you will need is 3.5 jack
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mojako on Jul 09, 2011 at 10:55 PM
Are these CDR King / Encore sound cards any good?  Better than the built in sa motherboards?

http://www.cdrking.com/index.php?mod=products&type=view&sid=2293&main=91

(http://www.cdrking.com/apanel/modules/products/images/large/2293_2.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Oct 29, 2011 at 02:55 PM
guys may tanong lang po ako about sa XBMC.

nag install ako nito sa laptop and then i connected my lcd tv sa laptop papano ko po magagawang mag launch ung XBMC dun sa 2nd display (LCD tv) ?


thanks..=)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 29, 2011 at 03:18 PM
guys may tanong lang po ako about sa XBMC.

nag install ako nito sa laptop and then i connected my lcd tv sa laptop papano ko po magagawang mag launch ung XBMC dun sa 2nd display (LCD tv) ?


thanks..=)

See if there is an option to duplicate display on external monitor.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ikatrese on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:24 PM
sirs,

gusto ko na sanang gawin na lang htpc ang old pc ko. eto ang specs:

procie: core2duo
ram: 4gig ripjaw gskill ddr3
mobo: asrock socket 775
vga: 9500gt 1gig 128bit ddr2
optical: lg

ano po bang marerecommend nyo na i-upgrade pa dyan? to be paired with toshiba 32inch HDReady LCDTV and onkyo HT-r390. gusto ko rin sanang palitan yung casing niya [astone enforcer] yung mas manipis o maliit lang sana. tia!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:38 PM
sirs,

gusto ko na sanang gawin na lang htpc ang old pc ko. eto ang specs:

procie: core2duo
ram: 4gig ripjaw gskill ddr3
mobo: asrock socket 775
vga: 9500gt 1gig 128bit ddr2
optical: lg

ano po bang marerecommend nyo na i-upgrade pa dyan? to be paired with toshiba 32inch HDReady LCDTV and onkyo HT-r390. gusto ko rin sanang palitan yung casing niya [astone enforcer] yung mas manipis o maliit lang sana. tia!
video card lang  :)
ATi HD 6xxxx series  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ikatrese on Nov 21, 2011 at 10:48 PM
video card lang  :)
ATi HD 6xxxx series  ;)

thanks for the quick reply. ano ba sa series ang nasa 2-3k range?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Nov 22, 2011 at 03:11 AM
thanks for the quick reply. ano ba sa series ang nasa 2-3k range?
6470 should be within that range
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ikatrese on Nov 22, 2011 at 12:13 PM
6470 should be within that range

thanks again! will check this later.

cheers!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: klpangan on Nov 25, 2011 at 01:17 PM
Hi All,

Which is better Zotac Zbox nano AD10 or Xtreamer Ultra HTPC... di ako makapagdecide halos parehas lang....

need your input thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: HD_MOVIES on Nov 25, 2011 at 03:45 PM
^ ano ba mga specs nyan? kung di ka naman maselan sa physical look ng htpc mo, suggest mag buo ka na lang.. more or less yund in magagastos mo, pero mas powerful.. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: seymorebutts on Nov 28, 2011 at 01:54 PM
hello, need help, maybe you can suggest something on my issue.

my setup as follows:

etrayz - 24/7 torrent rig/file server
e350 desktop - htpc
egreat m34a - nmt
gigabit switch - cnet
zyxel p661 - router/modem

i have an mkv file in the etrayz which is 9Gb and 2 bd rips which are 25Gb and 40Gb. htpc has gigabit connection and so is the etrayz, nmt with FE connection.

when i transfer file from htpc to etrayz and vice versa, transfer rate is around 6-8MBps, sometimes it goes to 11-12MBps (very rare).

I tried playing those 3 files i listed above in my htpc with etrayz as file server and it stutters bigtime, i tried xbmc, splash pro, boxee, mpc, vlc all have the same issue. at first i thought it was the etrayz so i transferred those files to my htpc hdd and all played fine :D, no stutter whatsoever but when i tried to play it in my jurassic egreat m34a streaming from the etrayz, i did not see any stutter at all  ???, so it is not the etrayz, it is not my gigabit connection, what could be wrong?

is there any software media player that i can use to boot up my htpc and use that for pulling and playing content from my etrayz? i would like to try not using win7 os.

any suggestions?

thank you!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Nov 28, 2011 at 06:57 PM
hello, need help, maybe you can suggest something on my issue.

my setup as follows:

etrayz - 24/7 torrent rig/file server
e350 desktop - htpc
egreat m34a - nmt
gigabit switch - cnet
zyxel p661 - router/modem

i have an mkv file in the etrayz which is 9Gb and 2 bd rips which are 25Gb and 40Gb. htpc has gigabit connection and so is the etrayz, nmt with FE connection.

when i transfer file from htpc to etrayz and vice versa, transfer rate is around 6-8MBps, sometimes it goes to 11-12MBps (very rare).

I tried playing those 3 files i listed above in my htpc with etrayz as file server and it stutters bigtime, i tried xbmc, splash pro, boxee, mpc, vlc all have the same issue. at first i thought it was the etrayz so i transferred those files to my htpc hdd and all played fine :D, no stutter whatsoever but when i tried to play it in my jurassic egreat m34a streaming from the etrayz, i did not see any stutter at all  ???, so it is not the etrayz, it is not my gigabit connection, what could be wrong?

is there any software media player that i can use to boot up my htpc and use that for pulling and playing content from my etrayz? i would like to try not using win7 os.

any suggestions?

thank you!

Try using TCP Optimizer (http://www.speedguide.net/tcpoptimizer.php).  Many have improved the performance of their networks thru this.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: seymorebutts on Nov 30, 2011 at 07:38 AM
Try using TCP Optimizer (http://www.speedguide.net/tcpoptimizer.php).  Many have improved the performance of their networks thru this.  ;)

will try that sir, thank you!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: theblue on Dec 17, 2011 at 05:56 PM
Hi sirs,

please help me get an idea on what I need to be able to make a receiver output DTS MA and Dolby True HD sound.

My current PC specs:
i7 920
DX58SO board
GTX 570 GPU
6GB ram
3Terra HD space

I'm currently connecting my onboard Optical SPDIF output to HK receiver. I play BD rips that has DTS or Dolby. Everything was fine until my HK receiver died 2 weeks ago.  :(

I am now planning to get a Denon 1612 or 1912 receiver for DTS MA or Dolby True HD.

Questions:
1. What files do I need to play HD audio? Do i need to get the BD image files that are around 40GB each?
2. Will the HDMI output in GTX570 be able to pass these HD audio to receiver or do I need to buy another soundcard?

Thanks in advance sirs!

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Dec 17, 2011 at 06:47 PM
Hi sirs,

please help me get an idea on what I need to be able to make a receiver output DTS MA and Dolby True HD sound.

My current PC specs:
i7 920
DX58SO board
GTX 570 GPU
6GB ram
3Terra HD space

I'm currently connecting my onboard Optical SPDIF output to HK receiver. I play BD rips that has DTS or Dolby. Everything was fine until my HK receiver died 2 weeks ago.  :(

I am now planning to get a Denon 1612 or 1912 receiver for DTS MA or Dolby True HD.

Questions:
1. What files do I need to play HD audio? Do i need to get the BD image files that are around 40GB each?
2. Will the HDMI output in GTX570 be able to pass these HD audio to receiver or do I need to buy another soundcard?

Thanks in advance sirs!


1. Any playable file that has a supported HD Audio track would do. It doesn't have to be a BD image.
2. The GTX570 does not bitstream those compressed lossless formats. You can output multichannel LPCM to your receiver with that graphics adapter. If you really want to bitstream DTS-MA or TrueHD, then you'd either have to switch over to AMD/ATI graphics or downgrade to a lower Nvidia model (HTPC-oriented models... which throws 3d rendering performance out the window).



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: theblue on Dec 18, 2011 at 06:09 AM
1. Any playable file that has a supported HD Audio track would do. It doesn't have to be a BD image.
2. The GTX570 does not bitstream those compressed lossless formats. You can output multichannel LPCM to your receiver with that graphics adapter. If you really want to bitstream DTS-MA or TrueHD, then you'd either have to switch over to AMD/ATI graphics or downgrade to a lower Nvidia model (HTPC-oriented models... which throws 3d rendering performance out the window).


Thanks sir!

That means I now have to sell my Nvidia Card or settle for a multichannel LPCM. By the way is there really a difference between LCPM and the lossless formats? Which one is sounds better?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Dec 18, 2011 at 06:35 AM
Thanks sir!

That means I now have to sell my Nvidia Card or settle for a multichannel LPCM. By the way is there really a difference between LCPM and the lossless formats? Which one is sounds better?

You're welcome. Theoretically, they should sound about the same. Unfortunately, most BDs with DTS-MA or TrueHD tracks only include 16-bit Unpacked LPCM tracks to save disc space (as uncompressed data consumes a lot of space), while the compressed tracks may be in 24-bit.

If you want to, you can have the PC translate the DTS-MA / TrueHD bitstreams into LPCM. Just hope that AACS compliance does not screw anything (if it does, it'd convert the material to 16/48).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: seymorebutts on Dec 19, 2011 at 01:42 PM
Try using TCP Optimizer (http://www.speedguide.net/tcpoptimizer.php).  Many have improved the performance of their networks thru this.  ;)

sir, tried this but didnt work :( anyway, right now im using openelec which i boot from usb, so far all the files i have were successfully played by it ;) tingin ko problema ko os na
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: klpangan on Dec 29, 2011 at 01:44 AM
Experience tells me I need 3 very good software players to handle all kinds of contents.   These are what I use.

1.  KM Player - most extensive in terms of tweaks and varying looks and absolutely most convenient for subtitle re-sync (a must for my queen).

2.  MPC - Arguably the best looking default PQ when using good codecs (latest version of FFDshow for instance).  Clearly more efficient than KMP when handling very high bit rate 1080p contents. 

3.  PowerDVD7 for HD DVD or DVD playback only.  It will also play BD if I have one.


For non high def contents, WMP has very good PQ and SQ.   Subtitle is a little bit complicated though.  If you need subtitle, use KMP or MPC instead.

For SQ, just make sure to download and install AC3Filter so that your software player will be able to decode multi-channel audio properly.  For KMP, you dont have to set anything but for MPC, you have to configure it properly.

Codec installation is very simple. Just download and install the latest FFDshow or CCCP (whichever you prefer).  No need to change any settings, unless you are curious and would want to play around.  Para malinis, install the codecs last (that is, after you install the software players).




bossing... may bago na bang update dito?? or are you still using this software for windows 7??
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 16, 2012 at 07:02 AM
For those into HTPCs, AMD's HD 7700 series is out, and the 7750 comes in passive-cooled variants.

The HD 7700 line inherits the capability of the HD 7900 series to drive 4k displays, which is a boon for those who want this feature (of course, the HD 7900 series would probably be better if you'd do a lot of real-time video post processing at that resolution).

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: chocovim on Feb 23, 2012 at 08:49 AM
i have a newbie question.   anyone here knows how i can connect my sdtv to my old laptop that only has vga out and my sdtv only has video in (rca).

many thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 23, 2012 at 11:05 AM
i have a newbie question.   anyone here knows how i can connect my sdtv to my old laptop that only has vga out and my sdtv only has video in (rca).

many thanks!

Pwede po gumamit ng VGA to TV converter box.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 11, 2012 at 09:39 AM


My videocard(an MSI HD5450) has conked out on me again. I had left the pc on for several days since I was downloading something and when I switch on the monitor there was no problem at first. after a few minutes of use it suddenly hanged. When I switched off the pc and restarted it, it refused to show a display in the monitor although the computer itself was working.

I waited for a while but the display in the monitor still failed to show. Guessing it was the videocard, I removed it and connected the monitor directly to the built-in vga out of the mobo. The display showed without any hitches this time.

This is the 2nd time that my videocard has died out on me. The first time was with a similar HD5450(but a differenct brand, a HIS HD5450). The display suddenly wouldn't show correctly. It would only show a teared/distorted image. So I removed the VC to checked if it was the problem and true enough the VC was the culprit.

I don't know whether it's my computer and habits of use that are wrong(leaving it on for long periods to download,frequently changing desktops thru ati ccc so that I can watch in my plasma) but I'm tired of frequently changing videocards. My first vc was only used for about 3 months. I attributed that to the brand(HIS, a brand I only saw when I was looking for a cheap VC with an hdmi out as well as dvi and vga.) My 2nd VC(my current one, a MIS HD5450 which I have now removed from my pc) was only used for less than a year.

My question is, will it better for me to buy another dedicated htpc(I have seen some prebuilt htpc's in the marketplace) for viewing and music listening instead of buying another videocard which has the probability of an early death due to the way I utilize my pc as a torrent downloader and an htpc? I could then use my existing pc purely as a torrent rig and for normal computer use while the htpc will be used for what its name suggests. Or are there more durable videocard brands out there that I can buy so that I can simply buy a replacement VC and continue with my merry ways? Offhand I can see the 2nd option(buying a replacement VC) as cheaper, however there is always the fear that it will go the way of its predecessors.

I am also thinking of simply buying an nmt but I am sure I would miss the flexibility of a pc.

update on my post: Thankfully my videocard functioned normally as if nothing had happened when I inserted it again. Hay buti na lang para walang gastos. Tuloy ang ligaya.  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: CocoBoy on Apr 11, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Hindi kaya PCIE board problem bro?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 11, 2012 at 12:18 PM
di nga alam. Hopefully ok pa 'to ng matagal para wala munang gastos ng matagal. Thanks for the reply.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Medyo hardcore PC user until around April 2010 but now I rely mostly on the A200/A210 for playback while my PC is mainly a torrent rig and secondary HT set-up. Tapos last May 2011, naging full BD capable na ang A200/A210 so hindi ko na ginamit ang PowerDVD and TMT3 for full BD playback.  Didnt miss a thing about the PC although I am hoping to find a replacement for its 4850 videocard dahil maingay ang fan - and sayang din kuryente on the 4850 dahil mainly torrent rig and net browser nalang.  Problem is, I need an HDTV out (not HDMI) because my second monitor is an HD-CRT.  Unfortunately, wala ng HDTV out sa mga bagong videocards dahil rare species na kaming gumagamit ng HD-CRT - hehehe.

My PC is practically 24/7, sometimes for as long as a month with very heavy data traffic, but that never causes the 4870 to bug down. However, umiinit ng husto yung 4870 especially kapag summer, and galit na galit ang fan when I use the dual monitor and play something MKV or full BD structure on the HD-CRT while doing regular computing on the other, and that sometimes hanged my system and required a re-boot.  So kapag tag-init, I placed an electric fan directed towards the case breathing holes.   Before that, I also had issues with the ATI driver causing the PC to hang under dual monitor.   Na solve din through ATI driver update.


I am also thinking of simply buying an nmt but I am sure I would miss the flexibility of a pc.

update on my post: Thankfully my videocard functioned normally as if nothing had happened when I inserted it again. Hay buti na lang para walang gastos. Tuloy ang ligaya.  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wengkapre on Apr 11, 2012 at 12:39 PM
Baka nakaset too low yung speed ng fan ng vc mo Sir, possible overheating issue po, pwede mo po macontrol yung fan speed nya sa ccc  ;) I-observe mo din Sir yung temp ng vc mo,pag naka connect yung hdmi ng 2nd monitor mo, mas mataas ang temp nya kesa sa 1 (pc)monitor lang ang naka connect.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 11, 2012 at 02:14 PM
Baka nga heat issue lang 'to... My HD5450 unfortunately has passive cooling i.e. an aluminum heatsink and this might not be enough to draw away the heat fast enough. When the computer was turned on for a few hours I tried touching the heatsink of the videocard and it was quite hot.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 11, 2012 at 02:41 PM
Baka nga heat issue lang 'to... My HD5450 unfortunately has passive cooling i.e. an aluminum heatsink and this might not be enough to draw away the heat fast enough. When the computer was turned on for a few hours I tried touching the heatsink of the videocard and it was quite hot.
less than 100 pesos 120mm from cdrking case fan should do the trick.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 11, 2012 at 04:55 PM
less than 100 pesos 120mm from cdrking case fan should do the trick.

thanks. Mapasyal nga sa hari ngayong bakasyon.  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Apr 11, 2012 at 05:12 PM
brader bongkadi what power supply are you using? and are you using an avr with that pc?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 11, 2012 at 05:50 PM
avr as in voltage regulator? yes I have recently recently changed my avr to a more heavy duty one. I previously used the kind that normally comes with pre built pcs and is very light. :D I changed the avr when I found an unused good quality avr that was lying around unused in my sister's place.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: tein on Apr 12, 2012 at 05:54 AM
Try to get MSI Afterburner or any fan controlling device, if hindi nakuha sa fan controller, a porper ventilation sa case might do the trick , or maybe madumi nadin vidcard mo sir try mo brush brush sila  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on Apr 12, 2012 at 03:10 PM
Thanks sir. Will try your advise. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Apr 12, 2012 at 05:31 PM
avr as in voltage regulator? yes I have recently recently changed my avr to a more heavy duty one. I previously used the kind that normally comes with pre built pcs and is very light. :D I changed the avr when I found an unused good quality avr that was lying around unused in my sister's place.

also try to use a branded PSU, usually that is the culprit
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Apr 24, 2012 at 04:54 AM
Ivy Bridge is out and seems to be a great HTPC platform. Let's see what Trinity can do. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on Apr 24, 2012 at 07:27 PM
mga sir, patulong po..wala pong picture sa tv after ng windows logo.. gamit ko po ay denon 1912, tapos ati radeon 4650 vcard... thanks mga sir
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nutkrakr on Apr 25, 2012 at 01:55 PM
mga sirs, pls help yung sound ng rear channels ko ay sa front din lumalabas pag gamit yung coaxial going to my receiver, windows 7 gamit ko nung xp didnt encounter that problem, tried using an xternal sound card ganun pa rin, ty
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Apr 25, 2012 at 03:22 PM
mga sirs, pls help yung sound ng rear channels ko ay sa front din lumalabas pag gamit yung coaxial going to my receiver, windows 7 gamit ko nung xp didnt encounter that problem, tried using an xternal sound card ganun pa rin, ty
try to set..
control panel->sound->select digital->
configure as desire
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Apr 26, 2012 at 12:12 AM
mga sir, patulong po..wala pong picture sa tv after ng windows logo.. gamit ko po ay denon 1912, tapos ati radeon 4650 vcard... thanks mga sir

Try using a standard HDTV resolution like 1920x1080 or 1280x720, 60 or 50Hz.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on Apr 26, 2012 at 10:10 AM
the resolution is set to 1920x1080 sir, ok naman pag direct from htpc to tv.. pero pag pinadaan sa avr, hanggang post bios lang may display.. nawawala na pagdating sa windows..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 26, 2012 at 10:53 AM
the resolution is set to 1920x1080 sir, ok naman pag direct from htpc to tv.. pero pag pinadaan sa avr, hanggang post bios lang may display.. nawawala na pagdating sa windows..
have no issues with my 1912 bro, if youre near pasig area you can pick me up and i can bring my laptop to test, para malaman natin kung VGA mo nga ang problema  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on Apr 26, 2012 at 11:52 AM
have no issues with my 1912 bro, if youre near pasig area you can pick me up and i can bring my laptop to test, para malaman natin kung VGA mo nga ang problema  :)

thanks sa offer sir, sayang naman.. sa laoag city po ako  :) maganda nga sana subukan sa ibang pc or laptop.. ano pong video card nung laptop nyo sir? naresearch ko po kase, may issues yata talaga ati 4650 sa 1912..

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1352229.html (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1352229.html)

try ko po kunan ng video bukas para mapakita ko po.. thanks sir
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nutkrakr on Apr 27, 2012 at 10:04 PM
Will try...tnx
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 28, 2012 at 08:33 PM
thanks sa offer sir, sayang naman.. sa laoag city po ako  :) maganda nga sana subukan sa ibang pc or laptop.. ano pong video card nung laptop nyo sir? naresearch ko po kase, may issues yata talaga ati 4650 sa 1912..

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1352229.html (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/archive/index.php/t-1352229.html)

try ko po kunan ng video bukas para mapakita ko po.. thanks sir
ATi 6470 or 6450 yata ang vga nya bro  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on May 02, 2012 at 09:13 AM
ATi 6470 or 6450 yata ang vga nya bro  :)

thanks sir... d ko talaga mapagana, hanggang post bios lang..  :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 02, 2012 at 11:04 AM
thanks sir... d ko talaga mapagana, hanggang post bios lang..  :(

Reset mo kaya sir sa factory settings yung receiver then test. Tapos adjust mo nalang ang audio calibration mo after. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on May 02, 2012 at 03:44 PM
Reset mo kaya sir sa factory settings yung receiver then test. Tapos adjust mo nalang ang audio calibration mo after. 

sinubukan ko po kagabi magreset, ganun pa rin. hanggang sa may windows logo lang ang may display.. bili na lang po ako optical para yun na lang gamitin ko muna sir.. hirap i-troubleshoot eh..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: questforthegoodlife on May 02, 2012 at 04:09 PM
sinubukan ko po kagabi magreset, ganun pa rin. hanggang sa may windows logo lang ang may display.. bili na lang po ako optical para yun na lang gamitin ko muna sir.. hirap i-troubleshoot eh..

Sir, have you setup in the Catalyst Setup and/or Display Settings for either clone/extended desktop? If you play sounds or movies, does the audio play through the speakers connected to your AVR?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on May 02, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Sir, have you setup in the Catalyst Setup and/or Display Settings for either clone/extended desktop? If you play sounds or movies, does the audio play through the speakers connected to your AVR?


sinubukan ko mag dual monitor sir, hdmi to the receiver and dvi to a monitor.. walang madetect sa hdmi.. pero may display sya bago mag windows, kaya iniisip ko, baka driver ng 650 ang culprit.. will try optical na lang sir to passthrough audio to the receiver, habang wala pa pambili ng bagong vcard..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 03, 2012 at 08:39 PM
sinubukan ko mag dual monitor sir, hdmi to the receiver and dvi to a monitor.. walang madetect sa hdmi.. pero may display sya bago mag windows, kaya iniisip ko, baka driver ng 650 ang culprit.. will try optical na lang sir to passthrough audio to the receiver, habang wala pa pambili ng bagong vcard..
im afraid there is no other way you can use HDMI and DVI at the same time.better buy optical out
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on May 03, 2012 at 08:54 PM
im afraid there is no other way you can use HDMI and DVI at the same time.better buy optical out

yes sir toslink na lang muna gagamitin ko for audio.. thanks everyone for your help.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on May 04, 2012 at 11:20 AM
The latest version of KMP plays 3D - Left/Right and Over/Under - but you need a 3D HDTV of course.   ;)

If your monitor is only 2D, then KMP still combines the 2 images and then viewable in 2D - but that's moot if you already have the original 2D version of the MKV.   ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: TinkerTailor on May 04, 2012 at 04:46 PM
im afraid there is no other way you can use HDMI and DVI at the same time.better buy optical out

It seems the problem is really with the videocard. I have been using the DVI out(connected to a plasma tv using
DVI to HDMI converter) together with the HDMI out(connected to an HK AVR) of my ATI HD5450 with no problem. In fact, the VGA out of my videocard(it has an HDMI, DVI, and VGA out) is also connected to a 19" monitor so that I can conveniently switch between the small monitor and the plasma depending on whether I want to watch movies, listen to music or just surf the net.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 04, 2012 at 07:34 PM
It seems the problem is really with the videocard. I have been using the DVI out(connected to a plasma tv using
DVI to HDMI converter) together with the HDMI out(connected to an HK AVR) of my ATI HD5450 with no problem. In fact, the VGA out of my videocard(it has an HDMI, DVI, and VGA out) is also connected to a 19" monitor so that I can conveniently switch between the small monitor and the plasma depending on whether I want to watch movies, listen to music or just surf the net.

dont know for ati series4 that he uses..maybe updating driver might help resolving the issue.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: -lee- on May 05, 2012 at 07:33 PM
dont know for ati series4 that he uses..maybe updating driver might help resolving the issue.


updated the driver sir pero wala pa din display.. anyway, the toslink i ordered from sir anya arrived this afternoon and finally my system is working. pc connected directly to tv using hdmi and audio is sent to the receiver using toslink. happy na :) thanks everyone
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 13, 2012 at 05:16 PM
i need help with xbmc giving error  :(

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k626/wildfire816/XBMCVisualCerror.png)

already reinstall xbmc still the same, also tried to downgrading to 10.1 dharma still the same

this happens everytime i try to look at the movies
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 13, 2012 at 05:18 PM
bookmark ko lang
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 13, 2012 at 06:34 PM
any good alternatives to xbmc?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Aug 13, 2012 at 09:54 PM
any good alternatives to xbmc?
andami brow.spash pro mpc kmp powerdvd.
maganda lang naman sa xbmc yung library(imo)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM
andami brow.spash pro mpc kmp powerdvd.
maganda lang naman sa xbmc yung library(imo)

naka powerdvd and splashpro nako pero dahil sa dami ng movies sa hdd kailangan ko ng library, badtrip kasi xbmc wala akong makitang solution sa net
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Aug 13, 2012 at 10:19 PM
naka powerdvd and splashpro nako pero dahil sa dami ng movies sa hdd kailangan ko ng library, badtrip kasi xbmc wala akong makitang solution sa net
nag reinstall ka na diba pero ayaw pa rin?
try mo alisin tapos driver sweeper muna bago reinstall ulit
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 13, 2012 at 10:32 PM
nag reinstall ka na diba pero ayaw pa rin?
try mo alisin tapos driver sweeper muna bago reinstall ulit

sige i'll check the drivers, nag reinstall din nga pala ako ng visual c 2008/2010 x86 and x64 pero ganun pa din
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 14, 2012 at 09:18 PM
i found the culprit causing xbmc to have errors, its Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, i dont know why but when i removed it from the directory everything is running fine
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Aug 14, 2012 at 10:04 PM
i found the culprit causing xbmc to have errors, its Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, i dont know why but when i removed it from the directory everything is running fine
ok good.tuloy ang ligaya :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 15, 2012 at 08:40 PM
i found the culprit causing xbmc to have errors, its Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol, i dont know why but when i removed it from the directory everything is running fine

Baka may virus.  Try mo din Moovida And Media Portal
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 15, 2012 at 09:57 PM
Baka may virus.  Try mo din Moovida And Media Portal

baka virus nga nagdownload na lang ulit ako ng bago

pero may new problem ako after connecting the hdmi from pc to receiver and set the desktop to extend ang ngyari ung tv ang naging primary so what i did was to set the monitor as primary kaya lang pag inoff ko na ung amp and tv nagiging primary ulit ung tv leaving me with my dedicated monitor as an extended desktop. tapos when i turn the TV back on and it instantly swaps my regular monitor back to the primary
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 16, 2012 at 04:29 AM
baka virus nga nagdownload na lang ulit ako ng bago

pero may new problem ako after connecting the hdmi from pc to receiver and set the desktop to extend ang ngyari ung tv ang naging primary so what i did was to set the monitor as primary kaya lang pag inoff ko na ung amp and tv nagiging primary ulit ung tv leaving me with my dedicated monitor as an extended desktop. tapos when i turn the TV back on and it instantly swaps my regular monitor back to the primary

Try mo nalang duplicate display.  This is my setup sa HT room ko.  I can use a small 15" monitor for tweaking so that I do not need to turn on the PJ.  Downside is that both monitors should have the same resolution or else the VC will downgrade your higher resolution display to the lower one.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 16, 2012 at 05:52 AM
Try mo nalang duplicate display.  This is my setup sa HT room ko.  I can use a small 15" monitor for tweaking so that I do not need to turn on the PJ.  Downside is that both monitors should have the same resolution or else the VC will downgrade your higher resolution display to the lower one.

ganito setup ko mas mababa resolution nun isa so dowgrade talaga pero pag nag play na ako inaalis ko na lang ung monitor para maging 1080p ulet yung PJ.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 16, 2012 at 08:32 AM
ang weird nga doc kahit naka duplicate pag pinatay ko ang amp and tv nag automatic na nagiging extended desktop lang ung monitor ko, driver reinstall na kaya?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 16, 2012 at 06:47 PM
ang weird nga doc kahit naka duplicate pag pinatay ko ang amp and tv nag automatic na nagiging extended desktop lang ung monitor ko, driver reinstall na kaya?

Pwedeng option yan. Try mo updated driver kung meron.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 16, 2012 at 08:41 PM
na update ko na doc ganun pa din pero pag laruan ko settings baka mahuli ko din, ngayon ang work around ko lang disable ung hdmi papuntang tv pag di ako manunuod
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: comet on Aug 19, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Trying to use splash player pro trial version using my laptop.  Is there a jukebox for this? Can i use a CDRking remote for this? kaya pala talaga  niyang ipalabas ang DTSHD  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 19, 2012 at 04:04 PM
Trying to use splash player pro trial version using my laptop.  Is there a jukebox for this? Can i use a CDRking remote for this? kaya pala talaga  niyang ipalabas ang DTSHD  ;D

Splash Player Pro is like any PC media player where you just choose the file you want to play via Windows Explorer.  The best way is to use XBMC or other media center and just use Splash Pro as your external player. 

If you are using just Splash Player, a remote mouse can do.  If you have an Android phone, you can use that by installing a remote mouse and keyboard app such as Gpad to navigate.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 20, 2012 at 09:40 PM
Trying to use splash player pro trial version using my laptop.  Is there a jukebox for this? Can i use a CDRking remote for this? kaya pala talaga  niyang ipalabas ang DTSHD  ;D

I've tried using cdrking remote control with splash pro before, some of the buttons does not work.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: comet on Aug 21, 2012 at 01:10 AM
Doc Mel got it! what player do you recommend for navigating blu ray menus? Can I add it as another external player for the XBMC?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 21, 2012 at 05:17 AM
Doc Mel got it! what player do you recommend for navigating blu ray menus? Can I add it as another external player for the XBMC?

For navigating full BD Menus, I still go for PowerDVD or Arcsoft's Total Media Center.   

Here are the instructions to play BDs/BD ISO in XBMC:

Quote
I was able to play BD ISOs in XBMC using PowerDVD10 as my external player. Here are the instructions if anybody is interested:

I try to give you a more detailled description of what you have to do, to play Blu-ray discs and iso-files using PowerDVD:

1. Create a new folder on drive C:, name it 'For_XBMC', DON'T use whitespaces, use underlines instead!
You should now have a folder 'C:\For_XBMC'.

2. Use Notepad or any other text editor to create a batch file, that will be used to play Blu-ray discs using Power DVD. It should only contain this single line:

"C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD10\PowerDVD10.exe" /fullscreen e:

If the drive letter of your Blu-ray disc drive is not 'E:' and/or PowerDVD was installed into another directory, change the line above accordingly. Be sure to enclose the path in double quotes. Save the file into the previously created folder, name it 'PlayBD.bat'.
You should now have a file 'C:\For_XBMC\PlayBD.bat'.

3. Insert a Blue-ray or DVD into your optical drive, wait a few moments, if PowerDVD starts via windows autoplay, quit PowerDVD. Now double click the previously created PlayBD.bat. PowerDVD should start now, playing the BD/DVD. If yes, proceed to the next step, otherwise double check the path and driveletter in 'PlayBD.bat'.

4. Check which drive letter is assigned to Virtual CloneDrive. (You can do this by double clicking an *.iso-file in the Windows-Explorer.)

5. Use Notepad or any other text editor to create another batch file, that will be used to play Blu-ray iso-files using Power DVD. It should contain these three lines:

"C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\vcdmount.exe" /d=0 %1
"C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD10\PowerDVD10.exe" /fullscreen f:
"C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\vcdmount.exe" /d=0 /u

If the drive letter of Virtual CloneDrive is not 'F:' and/or PowerDVD was installed into another directory, change line 2 accordingly. If VirtualCloneDrive was installed into another directory, change the pathes in lines 1 and 3 accordingly. Be sure to enclose all pathes in double quotes.
Save the file into the previously created folder, name it 'PlayBDiso.bat'.
You should now have two files: 'C:\For_XBMC\PlayBD.bat' and 'C:\For_XBMC\PlayBDiso.bat'.

6. For testing purposes, reopen PlayBDiso.bat and replace the %1 (at the end of the first line) with the path to one of your Blu-ray iso-files, e. g. "C:\Movies\The Lord Of The Ring.iso".
Now the first line of PlayBDiso.bat should look similiar to

"C:\Program Files\Elaborate Bytes\VirtualCloneDrive\vcdmount.exe" /d=0 "C:\Movies\The Lord Of The Ring.iso"

Leave lines 2 and 3 unchanged. Save the file into 'C:\For_XBMC\', name it 'Test.bat'. Double click 'Test.bat', the iso-file should now play in PowerDVD. If yes, congratulations, halfway there . If no, double check all pathes and the use of double quotes.

7. Use Notepad or any other text editor to create or modify the 'playercorefactory.xml' in the userdata directory.
IMPORTANT!!! DONT'T modify the 'playercorefactory.xml' in the XBMC program directory (e. g. 'C:\Program Files\XBMC\system\playercorefactory.xml')!!!
You MUST create/modify the 'playercorefactory.xml' in your userdata directory (running Windows 7, this is 'C:\Users\<YOUR_USERNAME>\AppData\Roaming\XBMC\use rdata'), with <YOUR_USERNAME> being your user name
It should contain these lines:

<playercorefactory>
<players>
<player name="PowerDVD (BD.iso)" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
<filename>C:\For_XBMC\PlayBDiso.bat</filename>
<args>"{1}"</args>
<hidexbmc>true</hidexbmc>
</player>
<player name="PowerDVD (BD)" type="ExternalPlayer" audio="false" video="true">
<filename>C:\For_XBMC\PlayBD.bat</filename>
<hidexbmc>true</hidexbmc>
</player>
</players>
<rules action="prepend">
<!-- Blu-rays -->
<rule name="Blu-Ray" protocols="bd" player="PowerDVD (BD)"/>
<rule filetypes="iso" filename=".*BD.*" player="PowerDVD (BD.iso)"/>
</rules>
</playercorefactory>

Save it in the userdata directory (see above), name it 'playercorefactory.xml'.

8. For testing purposes, open 'playercorefactory.xml' with InternetExplorer. It should open in IE with syntax highlighting, without any error messages.

9. Rename your Blu-ray iso-files using the naming scheme <NAME_OF_THE_MOVIE>.BD.iso, e. g. 'The Lord Of The Ring.BD.iso'

10. Run XBMC, Blu-ray disc and iso-files should now automatically be played using PowerDVD. Additionally the 'pay with...' context menu should now contain the menu items 'PowerDVD (BD)' and 'PowerDVD (BD.iso)' which you can use to manually play an optical disc or iso-file using PowerDVD.

I hope this could help someone.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: comet on Aug 21, 2012 at 11:05 AM
thanks doc! will try this later :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Aug 24, 2012 at 05:19 PM
Hi John! Kindly advise if HTPC is visibly better than the PCH on playing our full BD stuff ne.  Thanks!

Not so keen on going back to my PC ways though, but for the sake of science...   ;D

Oh hapi hapi hapi mga users sa bahay ng A210.  One Direction full BD ang favorite of the month.   ;D ;D

Cheers!

thanks doc! will try this later :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Aug 24, 2012 at 05:49 PM
sino naka pag try ng remote na ganito?

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916317/0/1258290168.jpg)

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916306/0/1248971605.jpg)

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916303/0/1248971574.jpg)

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916304/0/1248971586.jpg)

meron dito: Php 550.00

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: sientobente on Aug 24, 2012 at 07:31 PM
sino naka pag try ng remote na ganito?

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916317/0/1258290168.jpg)

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916306/0/1248971605.jpg)

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916303/0/1248971574.jpg)

(http://img.diytrade.com/cdimg/576936/9916304/0/1248971586.jpg)

meron dito: Php 550.00

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6113623/PC+REMOTE+CONTROLLER?referralKeywords=remote&event=Search+Ranking,Position,15-9,289 (http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/6113623/PC+REMOTE+CONTROLLER?referralKeywords=remote&event=Search+Ranking,Position,15-9,289)

bought one of those. only can play limited apps(xbmc and windows media player lang as far as i remember) then sometimes unresponsive and slow pa nung remote.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Aug 24, 2012 at 07:57 PM
salamat sa reply sir. buti na lang di pa ako nakabili. :D

how about this HP MCE remote.

OVU400102/71 (HP Part #: 5187-4593)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/NEW-HP-MCE-REMOTE-CONTROL-USB-IR-RECEIVER-IR-Emitter-/22/!BupDN6gEGk~$(KGrHqN,!hcEv1+0E4O9BMBLH)rq(!~~_3.JPG)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: comet on Aug 24, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Hi John! Kindly advise if HTPC is visibly better than the PCH on playing our full BD stuff ne.  Thanks!

Not so keen on going back to my PC ways though, but for the sake of science...   ;D

Oh hapi hapi hapi mga users sa bahay ng A210.  One Direction full BD ang favorite of the month.   ;D ;D

Cheers!

Hi Alan, di ko pa rin natry medyo na busy sa conventions hehe, will try this long weekend.  Ganda ng sq ng htpc kapag nakaengage na yung dtshd and truehd.  Sarap lang sa nmt, pampamilya talaga madaling gamitin.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 25, 2012 at 06:11 PM
Just tweak my HTCP.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/PDVD/screenshot005.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 25, 2012 at 09:00 PM
Just tweak my HTCP.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/PDVD/screenshot005.png)

HT CellPhone brader?  :D

Ganda ah anong skin yan?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 25, 2012 at 09:05 PM
HT CellPhone brader?  :D

Ganda ah anong skin yan?

Ou bago un HT Cell Phone.  ;D ;D

AEON skin  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 25, 2012 at 09:50 PM
sige mag Aeon na din ako sa cellphone  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 27, 2012 at 09:38 AM
Just tweak my HTCP.

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/PDVD/screenshot005.png)

XBMC ba ito sir?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 27, 2012 at 09:50 AM
XBMC ba ito sir?

Yes XMBC with AEON skin.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 27, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Yes XMBC with AEON skin.  ;D ;D
Thanks sir.

Eden po ba ito?

Same lang din looks nya sa PC screen?

Kasi you've mentioned that its from CP?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 27, 2012 at 11:47 AM
Thanks sir.

Eden po ba ito?

Same lang din looks nya sa PC screen?

Kasi you've mentioned that its from CP?

Typo error lang yung cp si wildfire kasi napag tripan yung typo error ko.  ;D ;D

Yes Eden na yung version download mo lang ung AEON skin.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 27, 2012 at 01:29 PM
Typo error lang yung cp si wildfire kasi napag tripan yung typo error ko.  ;D ;D

Yes Eden na yung version download mo lang ung AEON skin.  ;) ;)

Thanks sir.

Will try that skin, looks cool :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: comet on Aug 28, 2012 at 01:42 PM
Mga gurus, ok ba ang ecs h67h2-i glv1.1 board for htpc along with Pentium G620 and radeon 5450?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 28, 2012 at 01:49 PM
Mga gurus, ok ba ang ecs h67h2-i glv1.1 board for htpc along with Pentium G620 and radeon 5450?

Skip the 5450 and use the integrated graphics for the meantime. You can get a nicer graphics adapter later on, if you feel the need.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Courage on Aug 28, 2012 at 02:18 PM
salamat sa reply sir. buti na lang di pa ako nakabili. :D

how about this HP MCE remote.

OVU400102/71 (HP Part #: 5187-4593)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/t/NEW-HP-MCE-REMOTE-CONTROL-USB-IR-RECEIVER-IR-Emitter-/22/!BupDN6gEGk~$(KGrHqN,!hcEv1+0E4O9BMBLH)rq(!~~_3.JPG)

Available ba locally ito?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Aug 28, 2012 at 02:46 PM
eto gamit ko:
(http://img.gfx.no/829/829158/introduksjon.JPG.jpg)
meron sa gilmore
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: comet on Aug 28, 2012 at 03:33 PM
Skip the 5450 and use the integrated graphics for the meantime. You can get a nicer graphics adapter later on, if you feel the need.
Salamat sir!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Aug 28, 2012 at 04:15 PM
Available ba locally ito?

meron sa sulit kaya lang wala yung USB IR header.meron din sa Gilmore pero pang CIR header na mostly compatible sa asrock mobo lang.
itong unit na ito kaka order ko lng sa ebay sir. Php 600+ lang. update kita pag dumating na.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: espionage on Aug 29, 2012 at 03:59 PM
Sir Stagea, ano po recommended nyong bang for the bucks na videocard? Ng-lag kc yung splash pro ko pag more than 15 gb ang file.  Tnx in advance!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: deo on Aug 30, 2012 at 09:12 AM
Sir ginagamitan nyo ba ng remote yung HBMC mo? i'm buying a desktop PC kasi.  Gusto ko ung interface ng XBMC. anong ma rrecommend nyong remote?

Also, ung details ba ng movies sa xbmc (plot, fanart, etc) can be downloaded automatically by xbmc or you have to do it manually?

Thanks!

HT CellPhone brader?  :D

Ganda ah anong skin yan?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 30, 2012 at 09:25 AM
please provide a good pc specs for htpc

PROC
MOBO
MEM
VC
etc

thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Aug 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM
please provide a good pc specs for htpc

PROC
MOBO
MEM
VC
etc

thanks


if you're a budget-wise go for E350 mobo with this specs:
MOBO-
MSI 350IA-E45-HDMI,Optical & Coaxial out.
price: Php 3.999.00 onsale at PCHUB with BQ660 itx casing with True power PS included (promo)
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=13573558 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=13573558)

or a separate ITX (bigger) casing to maximize the 4-SATA internal port.
APEX MI-008
price: 1,600.00
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=18597841 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=18597841)
note: BQ660 can only accommodate 1-2.5 HDD due to its miniaturize size.

MEM-
Kingston 4gb DDR-3 1333
price:Php 920.00
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10505771 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=10505771)

SSD/HDD-
its you're discretion but size matters ;D

VC-
Radeon HD6310- Onboard HDMI Ver. 1.3

or any of this:
Radeon HD 6450 (Low Profile) HDMI Ver. 1.4a
price: Php 1,750.00
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=9989755 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=9989755)

Radeon HD 6570 (Low Profile) HDMI Ver. 1.4a
price: Php 2,660.00
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=19064859 (http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=19064859)


check this link also: http://cybernetnews.com/build-xbmc-htpc/ (http://cybernetnews.com/build-xbmc-htpc/)
maraming ideas jan na mapupulot  :)







Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 31, 2012 at 02:39 PM
Hello po mga sir, okay lang ba if im going to upgrade just my video card lang and make my 4-year old PC to HTPC?

Here's the specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800 Kingston
ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB -----> Planning to upgrade into PowerColor HD5750
Gigabyte Superb 720W


Plan ko is to use ONLY an HDMI cable from the HD5750 to my AV Receiver (Pioneer VSX-1021-K) to have BOTH audio and video na.

Thanks in advance po.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Aug 31, 2012 at 04:21 PM
Hello po mga sir, okay lang ba if im going to upgrade just my video card lang and make my 4-year old PC to HTPC?

Here's the specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800 Kingston
ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB -----> Planning to upgrade into PowerColor HD5750
Gigabyte Superb 720W


Plan ko is to use ONLY an HDMI cable from the HD5750 to my AV Receiver (Pioneer VSX-1021-K) to have BOTH audio and video na.

Thanks in advance po.

ok lang yan mas malakas lang sa kuryente ng konti
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Aug 31, 2012 at 09:52 PM
Hello po mga sir, okay lang ba if im going to upgrade just my video card lang and make my 4-year old PC to HTPC?

Here's the specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800 Kingston
ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB -----> Planning to upgrade into PowerColor HD5750
Gigabyte Superb 720W


Plan ko is to use ONLY an HDMI cable from the HD5750 to my AV Receiver (Pioneer VSX-1021-K) to have BOTH audio and video na.

Thanks in advance po.
mag ATI 6XXX series ka na. not sure kung kaya ng 5XXX series ang 3D iso kung i-update ang driver
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 31, 2012 at 10:22 PM
Hello po mga sir, okay lang ba if im going to upgrade just my video card lang and make my 4-year old PC to HTPC?

Here's the specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800 Kingston
ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB -----> Planning to upgrade into PowerColor HD5750
Gigabyte Superb 720W


Plan ko is to use ONLY an HDMI cable from the HD5750 to my AV Receiver (Pioneer VSX-1021-K) to have BOTH audio and video na.

Thanks in advance po.

If you can get the HD 7750, that might be a little better and may last you a little longer. You get 4K resolution and 3D support. Plus, you get additional AA options, DDMA and better video handling (yes, IQ is a little better). It's also better for GPGPU uses, especially since the HD 7000 series is now an OoOE design.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Aug 31, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Thank you for your quick replies mga sir.

I'm not into 3D kasi... And medyo limited budget that's why yung 5750 lang yung na pili ko.
Ano po ba mas better when it comes to video AND audio na? ATI or nVidia? 5K at most po budget ko.. Yung 5750 is around 3.5k-4K
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 01, 2012 at 12:11 AM
Thank you for your quick replies mga sir.

I'm not into 3D kasi... And medyo limited budget that's why yung 5750 lang yung na pili ko.
Ano po ba mas better when it comes to video AND audio na? ATI or nVidia? 5K at most po budget ko.. Yung 5750 is around 3.5k-4K

AMD/ATI 2D image quality (especially for video playback) is superior to Nvidia's at the moment, given the right settings. The HD 7750 costs less than 5k in most shops.

Newer models from both AMD and Nvidia generally have better video playback quality over their prior generation counterparts.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 01, 2012 at 01:58 AM
Oh! Naku naman. I'm 2 generations behind. Lol. But their prices are virtually equal. Thanks sir!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 01, 2012 at 04:40 AM
Thank you for your quick replies mga sir.

I'm not into 3D kasi... And medyo limited budget that's why yung 5750 lang yung na pili ko.
Ano po ba mas better when it comes to video AND audio na? ATI or nVidia? 5K at most po budget ko.. Yung 5750 is around 3.5k-4K

Alam ko yung 5750 can play also 3D kung encode din lang naman ang play puwede na din yan.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 01, 2012 at 05:25 AM
Alam ko yung 5750 can play also 3D kung encode din lang naman ang play puwede na din yan.  ;) ;)

It lacks HDMI 1.4a support, however. HD 6000 added HDMI 1.4a 3D, while HD 7000 added 4K resolution support on top of HD 6000's feature set.

The HD 7750 is fast enough to perform full post processing on 120fps 1080p.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 02, 2012 at 01:39 PM
Thanks bro!

I tried connecting a laptop to my receiver and set the resolution to 1920x1080. The problem is, hindi po ma kasya ang buong resolution sa TV. Mas malaki pa yung desktop (hindi makita yung taskbar). And the video quality isn't that nice. Any workaround po?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 02, 2012 at 01:55 PM
Thanks bro!

I tried connecting a laptop to my receiver and set the resolution to 1920x1080. The problem is, hindi po ma kasya ang buong resolution sa TV. Mas malaki pa yung desktop (hindi makita yung taskbar). And the video quality isn't that nice. Any workaround po?

Try mo muna a lower resolution like 480p or 720p then work from there by using the Video driver software.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 02, 2012 at 03:35 PM
It lacks HDMI 1.4a support, however. HD 6000 added HDMI 1.4a 3D, while HD 7000 added 4K resolution support on top of HD 6000's feature set.

The HD 7750 is fast enough to perform full post processing on 120fps 1080p.



Why you need a HDMI 1.4 support? In my experience even hindi 1.4 version can do 3D and pass through hd audio.  HDMI 1.3 has been tested in my setup and it can pass through HD audio and 3D. Yung 4k na support hindi mo din mamaximize malamng max of 1080p pa din ang resolution na gagamitan. It's useless to get a 4k support IMHO yung 1080p nga di rin minsan namaximize ng ilang member ng PDVD.  ;) ;)

There is a scaling option with ATI Catalyst center
see image below.

(http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ati-overscan.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 02, 2012 at 07:41 PM
Why you need a HDMI 1.4 support? In my experience even hindi 1.4 version can do 3D and pass through hd audio.  HDMI 1.3 has been tested in my setup and it can pass through HD audio and 3D. Yung 4k na support hindi mo din mamaximize malamng max of 1080p pa din ang resolution na gagamitan. It's useless to get a 4k support IMHO yung 1080p nga di rin minsan namaximize ng ilang member ng PDVD.  ;) ;)

Why does it make sense? Because there is very little price difference between them, and the newer board offers better features and energy efficiency.

HDMI 1.3 3D implementations vary, though most are derived from the HDMI 1.4a 3D spec.
4k support is useful if you want to continue using the item a couple of years from now (or at least get a decent scrap value on the device). 4K panels and projectors are expected to hit the mainstream by 2015 (entry point starts 500k at the moment). If you've been in this hobby long enough, you would've encountered people saying that there's little use for 1080p.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bartender on Sep 02, 2012 at 09:22 PM
Hello po mga sir, okay lang ba if im going to upgrade just my video card lang and make my 4-year old PC to HTPC?

Here's the specs:

Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz
MSI P45-NEO2
2x2GB DDR2 800 Kingston
ATI Radeon HD4850 512MB -----> Planning to upgrade into PowerColor HD5750
Gigabyte Superb 720W


Plan ko is to use ONLY an HDMI cable from the HD5750 to my AV Receiver (Pioneer VSX-1021-K) to have BOTH audio and video na. The CPU is also more than enough for smooth XBMC scrolling.

Thanks in advance po.

If it's a dedicated HTPC, the video upgrade should be sufficient for non-3D application.  You can already use madvr with that GPU.  Your CPU is also more than enough to have smooth scrolling of XBMC menus if you use it.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bartender on Sep 02, 2012 at 09:29 PM
Why does it make sense? Because there is very little price difference between them, and the newer board offers better features and energy efficiency.

HDMI 1.3 3D implementations vary, though most are derived from the HDMI 1.4a 3D spec.
4k support is useful if you want to continue using the item a couple of years from now (or at least get a decent scrap value on the device). 4K panels and projectors are expected to hit the mainstream by 2015 (entry point starts 500k at the moment). If you've been in this hobby long enough, you would've encountered people saying that there's little use for 1080p.

True 4K is the direction in the future.  But my personal principle with PCs is to build only what's needed considering the very short lifespan of technology here.  There's always something new every 6 months to a year which means that the previous generation will take a price cut.  Just my $0.02.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 02, 2012 at 09:55 PM
Why does it make sense? Because there is very little price difference between them, and the newer board offers better features and energy efficiency.

HDMI 1.3 3D implementations vary, though most are derived from the HDMI 1.4a 3D spec.
4k support is useful if you want to continue using the item a couple of years from now (or at least get a decent scrap value on the device). 4K panels and projectors are expected to hit the mainstream by 2015 (entry point starts 500k at the moment). If you've been in this hobby long enough, you would've encountered people saying that there's little use for 1080p.

Yah i know but still there are a lot playing 720p on a 1080p panel. Ilang years ba bago nagmura ang 1080p? 2012 now and you say by 2015 mainstream na siya? How much naman kaya? Kailan ba unang lumabas ang 4K sa market last year lang ata or this year. May source na bang 4K na naintroduce? IMHO di lang 3 or 4 years inabot ng 1080p bago maging mainstream at mag mura. Sa 3 years pa lang may mga lalabas na new tech na mas maganda kesa ngayon. Ang sa akin lang is aanhin mo ang feature na di mo naman gagamitin pa and even 1k lang ang agwat nila.

True 4K is the direction in the future.  But my personal principle with PCs is to build only what's needed considering the very short lifespan of technology here.  There's always something new every 6 months to a year which means that the previous generation will take a price cut.  Just my $0.02.

May tama ka brader.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 02, 2012 at 10:00 PM
anung meron dito
kauuwi ko lang ...paspasan na pick up ng HTPC casing haha....

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 02, 2012 at 10:03 PM
anung meron dito
kauuwi ko lang ...paspasan na pick up ng HTPC casing haha....



Nice ano brader buo ka HTPC? Help kita baka mag i3 ako then pasa ko sa iyo G620 proc ko.  ;D ;D

Meron dito 4K video support na.  :o :o
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 03, 2012 at 01:52 AM
Yah i know but still there are a lot playing 720p on a 1080p panel. Ilang years ba bago nagmura ang 1080p? 2012 now and you say by 2015 mainstream na siya? How much naman kaya? Kailan ba unang lumabas ang 4K sa market last year lang ata or this year. May source na bang 4K na naintroduce? IMHO di lang 3 or 4 years inabot ng 1080p bago maging mainstream at mag mura. Sa 3 years pa lang may mga lalabas na new tech na mas maganda kesa ngayon. Ang sa akin lang is aanhin mo ang feature na di mo naman gagamitin pa and even 1k lang ang agwat nila.

4k hardware was available since 2007 for the pro market (with a big price tag). It trickled down to the consumer market with HDMI 1.4. It's really up to the person if this matters to him/her. The biggest downside I see is lack of HEVC hardware decode support, which may be useful once 4K material is finally available to the consumer. I'm sure people will race to build GPU-accelerated software solutions once this comes out, however.

There are now large 4k flat panels at 11k USD.  There would still be many people buying 1080p units in 2015, but I'd assume that the higher end consumer models would be mostly 4k by then. 4K handheld camcorders are starting to roll out in the prosumer sphere (technology trickling down from large pro cameras).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 03, 2012 at 05:27 AM
4k hardware was available since 2007 for the pro market (with a big price tag). It trickled down to the consumer market with HDMI 1.4. It's really up to the person if this matters to him/her. The biggest downside I see is lack of HEVC hardware decode support, which may be useful once 4K material is finally available to the consumer. I'm sure people will race to build GPU-accelerated software solutions once this comes out, however.

There are now large 4k flat panels at 11k USD.  There would still be many people buying 1080p units in 2015, but I'd assume that the higher end consumer models would be mostly 4k by then. 4K handheld camcorders are starting to roll out in the prosumer sphere (technology trickling down from large pro cameras).

Nice info but how many years we will wait before 4K source to be mainstream like bluray matagal din bago naging mainstream. It depends talaga sa need ng tao yan like now dami pa din gumagamit ng 720p in a 1080p panel. Kaya maganda pa din iadvice sa nag tatanung na puwede pa din gamitin ang mga gamit nila pero kulang ng ganitong feature.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 03, 2012 at 11:07 PM
There is a scaling option with ATI Catalyst center
see image below.

(http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ati-overscan.jpg)

Thank you so much for this sir! It worked... Chunky po ba talaga yung visuals if i-connect ko sa TV? It's kinda dark po at hindi masyadong smooth yung graphics and text. I already enabled the clear type text...

Here's a photo:

(http://i47.tinypic.com/b5lc37.jpg)

Also, I was able to play my movies thru my receiver and set the audio settings on XMBC to HDMI. DTS and Dolby pass through is okay.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bartender on Sep 03, 2012 at 11:15 PM
Thank you so much for this sir! It worked... Chunky po ba talaga yung visuals if i-connect ko sa TV? It's kinda dark po at hindi masyadong smooth yung graphics and text. I already enabled the clear type text...

Here's a photo:

(http://i47.tinypic.com/b5lc37.jpg)

Also, I was able to play my movies thru my receiver and set the audio settings on XMBC to HDMI. DTS and Dolby pass through is okay.

Maybe you can try changing desktop resolutions until you find one that's suitable for you.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 03, 2012 at 11:27 PM
I already set it to the native resolution of my tv (1920x1080@60Hz)... Pero hindi po sya as sharp compared sa 22" monitor ko.. :( Ganito ba talaga pag i-connect sa TV?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 04, 2012 at 02:23 AM
I already set it to the native resolution of my tv (1920x1080@60Hz)... Pero hindi po sya as sharp compared sa 22" monitor ko.. :( Ganito ba talaga pag i-connect sa TV?

Disable overscan on your TV before you play with scaling. This can get you very close to (if not exactly) 1:1 pixel mapping.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:22 AM
I already set it to the native resolution of my tv (1920x1080@60Hz)... Pero hindi po sya as sharp compared sa 22" monitor ko.. :( Ganito ba talaga pag i-connect sa TV?

ano distance mo sa tv? sa 32" na full hd kailangan at least 4 feet away

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:34 AM
ano distance mo sa tv? sa 32" na full hd kailangan at least 4 feet away



Mga 3 feet lang po. Lol. Ganyan po ba talaga? Akala ko as sharp as a 22" monitor lang pag i-set to full res.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:51 AM
Mga 3 feet lang po. Lol. Ganyan po ba talaga? Akala ko as sharp as a 22" monitor lang pag i-set to full res.

layo ka pa ng konti hindi kasi talaga optimize ang text sa tv pero sa games and movies ok yan try mo din baguhin ung dpi
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:21 AM
Thank you so much for this sir! It worked... Chunky po ba talaga yung visuals if i-connect ko sa TV? It's kinda dark po at hindi masyadong smooth yung graphics and text. I already enabled the clear type text...

Here's a photo:

(http://i47.tinypic.com/b5lc37.jpg)

Also, I was able to play my movies thru my receiver and set the audio settings on XMBC to HDMI. DTS and Dolby pass through is okay.

Iset mo yung pixel format sa 4:4:4:4 kung naalala ko pa sa PJ ko okay naman ang letters.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:31 AM
There is a scaling option with ATI Catalyst center
see image below.

(http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ati-overscan.jpg)

salamat sa screen shot sir, nawala na yung parang border sa TV na almost half inch...

one thing lang na observed ko, di crisp yung letters sa TV(42inch) compare to 24inch LCD Monitor... same sa na observed ni Sir Rhodem24...

try ko mamaya ang  pixel format to set the 4:4:4:4 :) TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:32 AM
salamat sa screen shot sir, nawala na yung parang border sa TV kahit naka full 1080p lang...

one thing lang na observed ko, di crisp yung letters sa TV(42inch) compare to 24inch LCD Monitor... same sa na observed ni Sir Rhodem24...

try ko mamaya ang  pixel format to set the 4:4:4:4 :) TIA

Ayun nasan baba ng screenshot Pixel Format.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:35 AM
Ayun nasan baba ng screenshot Pixel Format.  ;) ;)

oo nga, try ko mamaya pag uwi ko :) hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:46 AM
Eto screenshot ulet...  ;D ;D

(http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7751/cccpixelformat.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:59 AM
Hehehe. Pareha pala tayo problema sir jaime4i...

Sir xrampage, hidi po ba sa component etong YCbCr? Try ko po ito later.. I think naka RGB yun.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 04, 2012 at 04:57 PM
I may be wrong, but I think they're referring to overscan issues instead of pixel format.

@rhodem24

Set your scaling to 0% in the PC, then try hitting p. size in your remote until the picture fits properly.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 04, 2012 at 05:43 PM
Hehehe. Pareha pala tayo problema sir jaime4i...

Sir xrampage, hidi po ba sa component etong YCbCr? Try ko po ito later.. I think naka RGB yun.

No its not. You can check more on the link below for the info of the Pixel Format.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1344913/rgb-vs-ycbcr-where-is-the-best-place-to-do-the-color-conversion-player-or-display (http://www.avsforum.com/t/1344913/rgb-vs-ycbcr-where-is-the-best-place-to-do-the-color-conversion-player-or-display)

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You may find my questions totally noob, but i would like to make clear theory about color conversions.
i didnt found a sub-forum for general theory about displays or bluray players so i post it here. Moderators can always move it anywhere.


All the people in HTPC`s area talk about the new madVR - video renderer and the noticable improve of Picture Quality.
According to the developer there is no way to upsample the color on a pc without converting this to RGB first. Its impossible the card to output untouched YCbCr data,
so he suggests to set our htpc cards' pixel format to rgb and our display`s input source also to rgb.
With this project we skip one color conversion setting it up fullRGB 4:4:4 all the way. The only conversion that happens this way is the 4:2:0 to RGB.

But what happens with our standalone bluray players? Does anybody know if consumer electronics when uplsampling 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 or YCbCr 4:4:4 also convert the color first to rgb and then to YCbCr?
If we assume that we have a perfect bluray player like oppo93 and a display capable to handle both RGB/YCbCr which color format we would choose?
YCbCr 4:4:4 or RGB?


Where is the best place to do the color conversion?
option 1:
4:2:0 to 4:4:4 in the player ---> 4:4:4 to RGB on the display (two color conversions)
or option 2:
4:2:0 to rgb in the player ---> no color conversion on the display (one color conversion)Reply

I may be wrong, but I think they're referring to overscan issues instead of pixel format.

@rhodem24

Set your scaling to 0% in the PC, then try hitting p. size in your remote until the picture fits properly.

I believe the ovescan is the the filling up the display on my first screenshot.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:51 PM

I believe the ovescan is the the filling up the display on my first screenshot.


He's probably not getting a sharp picture because the TV is cropping the input, and he underscanned to compensate for this (to fill his screen). This causes image distortion and lost screen information. A properly configured HD screen should not need the video adapter to underscan (unless the screen's overscan could not be switched off).

As for selecting between YCbCr 4:4:4 and RGB, there are advantages and disadvantages. If the display supports YCbCr 4:4:4, then it's a good choice as current Nvidia and AMD consumer graphics adapters can output processed video in deep color through this pixel format (you  need their pro models if you want to do this using RGB). If the screen does not support 4:4:4, then some color information will be lost and the picture will look a lot "rougher" to the naked eye -- in such cases, RGB is the preferable format.

Current Samsungs and Sonys almost always support 4:4:4. LGs and Sharps are a mixed bag, while Panasonics generally do not.

The thing is that many TVs may need a trick or two to enable 4:4:4.  For Samsungs, it may require the renaming of the input for example.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 04, 2012 at 08:59 PM
He's probably not getting a sharp picture because the TV is cropping the input, and he underscanned to compensate for this. This causes image distortion and lost screen information.

I also set my PJ with 110 screen and LG scarlet 32 pero ok na ok naman ang image same sattings as above ang ginawa ko.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:19 PM
I also set my PJ with 110 screen and LG scarlet 32 pero ok na ok naman ang image same sattings as above ang ginawa ko.

If you kept the underscan to 0%, then your screen is not overscanning. If you had to set it to underscan, then you're losing information. This obviously bothers some more than others.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:39 PM
Tried the 4-4-4 but it's still the same.

I lowered down my resolution to 1680x1050 and it looked great compared to the 1080p. And the color is just right. Unlike the 1080p which is I think sobrang high ng contrast.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:42 PM
I lowered down my resolution to 1680x1050 and it looked great compared to the 1080p. And the color is just right. Unlike the 1080p which is I think sobrang high ng contrast.

Switch underscan to 0%, then see if the picture fills your screen. If it does not, your TV is probably not properly setup.

Next thing to check:
Is your PC connected through your AV receiver? If so, try to disable video processing in your AVR to see if that helps.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:47 PM
If 1680x1050 lang gamit kong resolution, disabled po yung underscan/overscan (scaling options). When I set it back to 1080p and set the scaling option to 0 (overscan), hindi ma kasya sa tv yung resolution. Hindi ko po makita yung task bar..

Paano po i-setup yung TV to make this work properly? :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:49 PM
If 1680x1050 lang gamit kong resolution, disabled po yung underscan/overscan (scaling options). When I set it back to 1080p and set the scaling option to 0 (overscan), hindi ma kasya sa tv yung resolution. Hindi ko po makita yung task bar..

Paano po i-setup yung TV to make this work properly? :(
use the native reso of the tv.turn scaling to zero adjust setting of the tv to "just scan"
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 04, 2012 at 09:56 PM
tama if it is set to 0 pero hindi kasya sa screen it means naka zoom ung setting ng tv just set it to just scan or 16:9
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 04, 2012 at 10:00 PM

If 1680x1050 lang gamit kong resolution, disabled po yung underscan/overscan (scaling options). When I set it back to 1080p and set the scaling option to 0 (overscan), hindi ma kasya sa tv yung resolution. Hindi ko po makita yung task bar..

Paano po i-setup yung TV to make this work properly? :(

Your TV is not set properly. Follow what joko mentioned, if it's available in your TV. Different TVs have different settings.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 04, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Naka set lang po to 16:9 ang tv ko... Then if I change the scaling to 0, hindi makita yung task bar.

And if meron ako i-open (chrome) mag dark yung tv.. Parang nahihirapan syang mag adjust sa brightness.. Pero pag 1680x1050 lang, di sya ganon.. :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 04, 2012 at 10:09 PM
Naka set lang po to 16:9 ang tv ko... Then if I change the scaling to 0, hindi makita yung task bar.

And if meron ako i-open (chrome) mag dark yung tv.. Parang nahihirapan syang mag adjust sa brightness.. Pero pag 1680x1050 lang, di sya ganon.. :(
instead 16:9 try just scan or scan only
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 04, 2012 at 11:08 PM
instead 16:9 try just scan or scan only

I think this one worked for me... "Screen Fit" yung name sa mode ng TV ko... Hehehe. Thanks sir. Na sakto na po yung 1920x1080 na resolution..

Regarding sa brightness/contrast issue, I manually set it nalang to get my desired result.. Also, I've set the sharpness from 50+ to 0 to make the text more clearer. I think I solved my problem na. :)

Thanks po sa tulong mga sir! I really appreciate it.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 05, 2012 at 12:09 AM
I think this one worked for me... "Screen Fit" yung name sa mode ng TV ko... Hehehe. Thanks sir. Na sakto na po yung 1920x1080 na resolution..

Congrats. That's what they use for newer Samsungs, I think.

Now it's upto you if you want to do the input renaming to get true YCbCr 4:4:4 (or if you'd stick with RGB).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 05, 2012 at 07:31 PM
Congrats. That's what they use for newer Samsungs, I think.

Now it's upto you if you want to do the input renaming to get true YCbCr 4:4:4 (or if you'd stick with RGB).

Thanks po. I'll stick with the default, which is RGB true color...

Maganda po ba gawing HTPC ang laptop? I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo IdeaPad Y470p. Hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 05, 2012 at 08:52 PM
Maganda po ba gawing HTPC ang laptop? I'm thinking of getting the Lenovo IdeaPad Y470p.

Notebooks perform almost as well as dedicated desktops for movie playback purposes, except for the relative lack of expansion options. The Y480 is now available, if you're buying new.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: reynold on Sep 07, 2012 at 01:45 PM
Mga brader, question lang... i dont know if it was discussed before pero tanong ko na rin...

I bought an ITX motherboard (ECS H67H2-I) that i might use to setup a simple HTPC, now here's my problem... the available SATA slot/port is for hardisks with SATA 3gb/s and 6gb/s only and almost all of my available hardisks are SATA 1.5gb/s... will they still work? may mga issues ba ako mae-encounter, minor or major? how about my SATA DVD Writer, is it ok to connect my DVD Writer on those slots available in my motherboard?

And one more thing pala, whats the best HTPC Casing for an ITX board na kakasya ang ordinary-sized power supply, worth not more than 2.5K?

Thanks a lot in Advance :)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 07, 2012 at 02:37 PM
Mga brader, question lang... i dont know if it was discussed before pero tanong ko na rin...

I bought an ITX motherboard (ECS H67H2-I) that i might use to setup a simple HTPC, now here's my problem... the available SATA slot/port is for hardisks with SATA 3gb/s and 6gb/s only and almost all of my available hardisks are SATA 1.5gb/s... will they still work? may mga issues ba ako mae-encounter, minor or major? how about my SATA DVD Writer, is it ok to connect my DVD Writer on those slots available in my motherboard?

Don't worry, it should work just fine.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: reynold on Sep 07, 2012 at 05:02 PM
Don't worry, it should work just fine.


Hay salamat ;D
Thanks Brader, eto assemble ko na muna para ma-installan na ng OS, saka na lang ako maghahanap ng HTPC Casing :)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 07, 2012 at 05:56 PM
mga sir i have spare pc parts here. thinking of building an htpc.

amd athlon 64 x2 am2
emaxx mobo
2gb ram
9600gt vcard

hard disk and psu nalang kulang.

will these be enough for movie playback (sd/720p/1080p)? am planning to use xbmc and will use a 51" plasma.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 07, 2012 at 07:39 PM
mga sir i have spare pc parts here. thinking of building an htpc.

amd athlon 64 x2 am2
emaxx mobo
2gb ram
9600gt vcard

hard disk and psu nalang kulang.

will these be enough for movie playback (sd/720p/1080p)? am planning to use xbmc and will use a 51" plasma.

That should work fine since my discrete video card ka naman.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 07, 2012 at 07:47 PM
mga sir i have spare pc parts here. thinking of building an htpc.

amd athlon 64 x2 am2
emaxx mobo
2gb ram
9600gt vcard

hard disk and psu nalang kulang.

will these be enough for movie playback (sd/720p/1080p)? am planning to use xbmc and will use a 51" plasma.
baka hirap sa 1080 highbitrate yung 9600gt..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 08, 2012 at 10:40 AM
ta try ko lang baka naman ok for my taste. spare parts lang rin naman kasi and ayoko na gumasto pa kasi di ko naman talaga need. i have a stand alone bluray player, ps3 and nmt eh. naeengganyo lang kasi ako dun sa look ng xbmc tapos customizable pa. hehe!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 08, 2012 at 10:55 AM
what mobo can i pair to amd a6 3500 na hindi na need ng VC na yakang magplay ng 3d or 1080p ty

parang ok to GA-A75-DS3P

or ASRock A75 Pro4-M
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:26 AM
what mobo can i pair to amd a6 3500 na hindi na need ng VC na yakang magplay ng 3d or 1080p ty

parang ok to GA-A75-DS3P

or ASRock A75 Pro4-M

Both are okay, but I prefer Gigabyte. Get a pair of DDR3-1866 DIMMs if possible, to maximize memory bandwidth (as it helps the on-chip GPU quite a bit).

As long as you enable GPU acceleration and don't apply too much post-processing, BD 3D should be easy for the A6.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:29 AM
Both are okay, but I prefer Gigabyte. Get a pair of DDR3-1866 DIMMs to maximize memory bandwidth, as it helps the on-chip GPU quite a bit.
thank you bro IVAN
wala kasi me budget for VC

so a6 3500 + either of the MOBO + 4gb 1866
will be able to play 3d with out separate VC?

pc lang din talaga to sa bahay pero kapag nakapagupgrade na sa AVR na 3d and tv then ok na...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Hello po!

Pwede ba gamitan ng HDMI adapter yung HD4850 video card ko? It has only 2 DVI outs and 1 S-Video. Walang HDMI... Meron kaya audio pag gamitan ng adapter?

Thanks po.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:45 AM
so a6 3500 + either of the MOBO + 4gb 1866
will be able to play 3d with out separate VC?

pc lang din talaga to sa bahay pero kapag nakapagupgrade na sa AVR na 3d and tv then ok na...

Yes, for the most part. Depende din yan sa 3D format na iplay mo and sa player/codec mo if nag-utilize ng DXVA. Most major formats (like mga BD) are supported with the right player.

Those that are not supported are also not supported by stand-alone video cards, for the most part. Kaya maski mag dedicated video ka sa mga formats na yun eh konti lang din ang tulong.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:51 AM
Hello po!

Pwede ba gamitan ng HDMI adapter yung HD4850 video card ko? It has only 2 DVI outs and 1 S-Video. Walang HDMI... Meron kaya audio pag gamitan ng adapter?

Thanks po.
ati hd series does not require SPDIF, so ideally with the correct dvi to hdmi adapter it SHOULD work.
just change the settings on your playback device to hdmi instead of speakers.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 11:58 AM
Hello po!

Pwede ba gamitan ng HDMI adapter yung HD4850 video card ko? It has only 2 DVI outs and 1 S-Video. Walang HDMI... Meron kaya audio pag gamitan ng adapter?

Thanks po.

Yes, pwede gamitan. Did your board come with an adapter? One digital out of the HD4850 can often carry sound when used with the right adapter. It can even bitstream HD audio formats in some cases, pero at a limited bitrate lang. You can send multi-channel PCM data instead, if you'd like to work around this limitation. Pero kung hassle-free at full quality HD Audio ang habol mo, consider upgrading your graphics adapter.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 08, 2012 at 01:53 PM
How does it work po? Hindi ba video lang yung sa DVI? Paano po mag work ang audio sa isang adapter lang?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 08, 2012 at 06:07 PM
thank you bro IVAN
wala kasi me budget for VC

so a6 3500 + either of the MOBO + 4gb 1866
will be able to play 3d with out separate VC?

pc lang din talaga to sa bahay pero kapag nakapagupgrade na sa AVR na 3d and tv then ok na...

You need a separate VC for 3D viewing lalo na pag GPU ang gagamitin and for now ok pa yan setup na yan for remux 1080p even i haven't use that setup.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 08:30 PM
How does it work po? Hindi ba video lang yung sa DVI? Paano po mag work ang audio sa isang adapter lang?
The DVI pinout is custom-mapped on this graphics board for the said purpose, and does not 100% follow DVI standards. The board itself is capable of trasmitting via HDMI, it just happens that the board does not have an HDMI output. The adapter gives you that HDMI output.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 08, 2012 at 09:18 PM
You need a separate VC for 3D viewing lalo na pag GPU ang gagamitin and for now ok pa yan setup na yan for remux 1080p even i haven't use that setup.  ;D ;D ;D

Despite the relatively low UVD3 frequency in this APU, it should handle most MVC sources if configured properly.

Here's a bench of the same UVD3 configuration when playing back a 3D BD:
(http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/LLANO/LLANO-401.png)

The A6-3500 would likely show a higher CPU utilization, but should play the disc just fine.

In this sense, it is better than dedicated graphics from the HD 5000 and older generations, as those do not accelerate MVC decoding.

(http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/TRINITY/TRINITY-20.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 09, 2012 at 12:06 AM
Despite the relatively low UVD3 frequency in this APU, it should handle most MVC sources if configured properly.

Here's a bench of the same UVD3 configuration when playing back a 3D BD:
(http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/LLANO/LLANO-401.png)

The A6-3500 would likely show a higher CPU utilization, but should play the disc just fine.

In this sense, it is better than dedicated graphics from the HD 5000 and older generations, as those do not accelerate MVC decoding.

(http://images.hardwarecanucks.com/image//skymtl/CPU/TRINITY/TRINITY-20.png)

That is for bluray disk how about ISO IMHO mas mabigat ang bluray ISO as i have tested them.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2012 at 02:36 AM
That is for bluray disk how about ISO IMHO mas mabigat ang bluray ISO as i have tested them.

A proper disc image contains the same data as the original disc, so this would largely depend on whether the player you're using takes advantage of UVD3's feature set.

It may take more processing and memory to load the data from the image file, but playback of the extracted data stream has the same processing requirements as it should be identical to what would come from the original disc.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 09, 2012 at 08:24 AM
That is for bluray disk how about ISO IMHO mas mabigat ang bluray ISO as i have tested them.
A proper disc image contains the same data as the original disc, so this would largely depend on whether the player you're using takes advantage of UVD3's feature set.

It may take more processing and memory to load the data from the image file, but playback of the extracted data stream has the same processing requirements as it should be identical to what would come from the original disc.
ditto
AFAIK less buffer pa ang ISO, no bumps since data is already in your HDD (in short wala na bottleneck).  add to the fact that RAM size youre using is huge already .. baka sira player mo bro elmer hehehe :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 09, 2012 at 08:42 AM
ditto
AFAIK less buffer pa ang ISO, no bumps since data is already in your HDD (in short wala na bottleneck).  add to the fact that RAM size youre using is huge already .. baka sira player mo bro elmer hehehe :D

Di rin may player kasi na malakas sa resources like Total Media Theater i have experience it di fact ang sinasabi ko. I tried some all my 3D ISO lahat may issue naka reformat na nga din ako ng HTPC and latest version na din gamit ko na TMT. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Di rin may player kasi na malakas sa resources like Total Media Theater i have experience it di fact ang sinasabi ko. I tried some all my 3D ISO lahat may issue naka reformat na nga din ako ng HTPC and latest version na din gamit ko na TMT. ;D ;D ;D

Your GPU load should be the same whether the stream is coming from a BD drive or a ripped BD image, given that you're treating the stream the same way. If you're applying more post-processing on one form than the other because of application optimizations (or the application failing to recognize the stream as something from a BD), then that is not an issue with the hardware.

Now if you're referring to the overhead of managing a loaded disc image, then that would no longer be GPU-related. You may want to change task and/or service priorities related to this to ensure that data comes in on time.

UVD3 (if present and enabled) is a fixed function component of an AMD GPU, so there should be very little variation in performance as long as the software application utilizes it properly. Have you tried checking if ArcSoft's BD & 3D Assistant properly reports hardware decode under Blu-ray 3D?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 09, 2012 at 11:48 AM
Your GPU load should be the same whether the stream is coming from a BD drive or a ripped BD image, given that you're treating the stream the same way. If you're applying more post-processing on one form than the other because of application optimizations (or the application failing to recognize the stream as something from a BD), then that is not an issue with the hardware.

Now if you're referring to the overhead of managing a loaded disc image, then that would no longer be GPU-related. You may want to change task and/or service priorities related to this to ensure that data comes in on time.

UVD3 (if present and enabled) is a fixed function component of an AMD GPU, so there should be very little variation in performance as long as the software application utilizes it properly. Have you tried checking if ArcSoft's BD & 3D Assistant properly reports hardware decode under Blu-ray 3D?


But powerdvd does play the 3D bluray smoothly same scenario and yun lang ang ginagawa ng HTPC so no need to change task and/or service priorities. Basta ako mas ok pa din ang seperate VC than on board. I also check the use GPU pero ganun pa din.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2012 at 12:12 PM
But powerdvd does play the 3D bluray smoothly same scenario and yun lang ang ginagawa ng HTPC so no need to change task and/or service priorities. Basta ako mas ok pa din ang seperate VC than on board. I also check the use GPU pero ganun pa din.  ;) ;)

The task/service priority adjustment is for the image handler, and not for the decoder or playback application. The handler is not utilized for BD media playback.

It was never an argument between integrated GPUs (in-chip in recent designs from Intel/AMD) against dedicated ones, it was just a question regarding how adequate they are for video playback. Of course, opinions regarding this vary widely.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 09, 2012 at 12:34 PM
hays walang stock ng

ASROCK A75 PRO4-M
huhuhuhu
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 09, 2012 at 01:28 PM
hays walang stock ng

ASROCK A75 PRO4-M
huhuhuhu
Sir try mo MSI A75MA-P35 or G55 :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 09, 2012 at 01:32 PM
Sir try mo MSI A75MA-P35 or G55 :)
ayaw walang HDMI .....huhuhu


only option is asrock a75 HVS
will wait for the stock this week
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 09, 2012 at 01:37 PM
Yung MSI A75MA-G55 w/ VGA, DVI & HDMI
kaya lang may kamahalan, price here in RASI Davao - 4,500 :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 09, 2012 at 01:38 PM
ayaw walang HDMI .....huhuhu


only option is asrock a75 HVS
will wait for the stock this week
mag 6450 ka muna, less 2k lang.wag ka ngang kuripot >:(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 09, 2012 at 08:37 PM
mag 6450 ka muna, less 2k lang.wag ka ngang kuripot >:(

anu yung 6450?
hehe......

ang gusto ko ung asrock a75 pro4-M

thanks jaime meron ngang hdmi ung g55
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 09, 2012 at 10:22 PM
anu yung 6450?
hehe......

ang gusto ko ung asrock a75 pro4-M

thanks jaime meron ngang hdmi ung g55
its a low profile adapter also has ability to perform 3D iso ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 14, 2012 at 07:47 AM
hi guys,i have low budget desktop which consists of asrock g31m-vs2,manli ge force g210,1gb ddr2.question ko lang po can it display 1080 without any problem?kung sakali po ano yung part na dapat i upgrade or idagdag para mas gumanda yung performance?and lastly i downloaded splashpro ex kaya lang mag eexpire na sya.yung serial number na kasama nung dinownload ko yung player ayaw tangapin kasi blacklisted na daw patulong naman kasi mas ok sya para sa kin compared sa powerdvd na ginamit ko before.thanks 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 14, 2012 at 08:11 AM
hi guys,i have low budget desktop which consists of asrock g31m-vs2,manli ge force g210,1gb ddr2.question ko lang po can it display 1080 without any problem?kung sakali po ano yung part na dapat i upgrade or idagdag para mas gumanda yung performance?and lastly i downloaded splashpro ex kaya lang mag eexpire na sya.yung serial number na kasama nung dinownload ko yung player ayaw tangapin kasi blacklisted na daw patulong naman kasi mas ok sya para sa kin compared sa powerdvd na ginamit ko before.thanks

It should play 1080p video formats that are supported by PureVideo HD.

What processor are your running, by the way? If it's powerful enough, it should be able to handle most non-accelerated formats as well.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 14, 2012 at 06:21 PM
Patulong naman. I am having an annoying crackling sound sa tv speakers when using dvi-hdmi cable. Video lang need ko.

Here's my setup:
8600gt > dvi-hdmi cable > tv

- Mobo has no hdmi_spdif headers
- installed the latest nvidia drivers
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 14, 2012 at 11:38 PM
It should play 1080p video formats that are supported by PureVideo HD.

What processor are your running, by the way? If it's powerful enough, it should be able to handle most non-accelerated formats as well.
intel pentium dual core po gamit ko processor,ok pa po ba yun?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 15, 2012 at 12:26 AM
hi guys,i have low budget desktop which consists of asrock g31m-vs2,manli ge force g210,1gb ddr2.question ko lang po can it display 1080 without any problem?kung sakali po ano yung part na dapat i upgrade or idagdag para mas gumanda yung performance?and lastly i downloaded splashpro ex kaya lang mag eexpire na sya.yung serial number na kasama nung dinownload ko yung player ayaw tangapin kasi blacklisted na daw patulong naman kasi mas ok sya para sa kin compared sa powerdvd na ginamit ko before.thanks
change icoupdate.png to ico_update.png
from mirillis root.pm moko bigay ko sayo link para magamit mo si splashP
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 15, 2012 at 02:26 AM
intel pentium dual core po gamit ko processor,ok pa po ba yun?

Yes, that should be enough for most formats.

Patulong naman. I am having an annoying crackling sound sa tv speakers when using dvi-hdmi cable. Video lang need ko.

Here's my setup:
8600gt > dvi-hdmi cable > tv


If your TV allows for setting an HDMI port for "PC" or DVI use (or selecting analog audio for certain HDMI ports), then that should do the trick. Otherwise, you can just set the volume to 0/mute.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 15, 2012 at 10:09 AM
If your TV allows for setting an HDMI port for "PC" or DVI use (or selecting analog audio for certain HDMI ports), then that should do the trick. Otherwise, you can just set the volume to 0/mute.

i tried doing that sir pero ganun pa rin. nandun pa rin yung sound. anyways set the volume to zero nalang kasi if i mute the tv meron din yung image na mute na ayaw matanggal. for now wala talaga akong makitang fix.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 15, 2012 at 10:34 AM
i tried doing that sir pero ganun pa rin. nandun pa rin yung sound. anyways set the volume to zero nalang kasi if i mute the tv meron din yung image na mute na ayaw matanggal. for now wala talaga akong makitang fix.

try unplugging the hdmi on the tv then plug it back again turn the pc on first then the tv, it might be a handcheck problem
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 15, 2012 at 12:35 PM
try unplugging the hdmi on the tv then plug it back again turn the pc on first then the tv, it might be a handcheck problem

will try that! if it will work do i have to do that trick every time i turn on my pc/tv?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:29 PM
will try that! if it will work do i have to do that trick every time i turn on my pc/tv?
kung yun ang solusyon...ganun talaga.
or palit kable
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:34 PM
will try that! if it will work do i have to do that trick every time i turn on my pc/tv?

oo you have to, pag ganun pa din try to turn the tv on 1st
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:54 PM
bale ganito kasi yon. my setup is like this:

8600gt > dvi out (using a dvi-hdmi adapter) > hdmi cable > tv

nagkakaroon ako ng handshake issues (tama ba?) - the annoying crackling sound sa tv speakers.

pero sa wakas tinry ko magpalit ng cables. dvi - hdmi cable without using an adapter and so far ok na wala na akong issues (i hope) tinry ko manuod ng starwars ep 2 so far walang crackling sound.

thanks for the help and suggestions guys!

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 15, 2012 at 09:58 PM
bale ganito kasi yon. my setup is like this:

8600gt > dvi out (using a dvi-hdmi adapter) > hdmi cable > tv

nagkakaroon ako ng handshake issues (tama ba?) - the annoying crackling sound sa tv speakers.

pero sa wakas tinry ko magpalit ng cables. dvi - hdmi cable without using an adapter and so far ok na wala na akong issues (i hope) tinry ko manuod ng starwars ep 2 so far walang crackling sound.

thanks for the help and suggestions guys!

adapter nga ang cause baka hindi sya hdcp capable, could you try to pause the movie for 1 minute then play it if walang crackling sound after
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 16, 2012 at 12:39 AM
For HTPCs, which is better, ATI or nVidia? Most of the members here have Radeon cards, why's that?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:29 AM
change icoupdate.png to ico_update.png
from mirillis root.pm moko bigay ko sayo link para magamit mo si splashP
ok na sir na gets ko na.thanks to you and to wildfire for the replies
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:32 AM
Yes, that should be enough for most formats.


kung magdadagdag po ba ko ng video card mas gaganda yung performance in terms of picture quality?ano po ba yung kailangan ko i upgrade kung sakali magkaroon ng budget?thanks po ulit
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 03:43 AM
kung magdadagdag po ba ko ng video card mas gaganda yung performance in terms of picture quality?ano po ba yung kailangan ko i upgrade kung sakali magkaroon ng budget?thanks po ulit

There should be an improvement naman with the current breed of graphics adapters (if you look for the differences). Pero subukan mo muna yung meron ka to see if an HTPC suits you. What you have should still be capable of decent video (at least better than many dedicated players when configured right).

For HTPCs, which is better, ATI or nVidia? Most of the members here have Radeon cards, why's that?

AMD/ATi is at an advantage for the most part when it comes to video quality. Intel's HD 4000 IGP is also a very good video solution (as long as you go stay away from MadVR and other such renderers).
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 16, 2012 at 09:08 AM
adapter nga ang cause baka hindi sya hdcp capable, could you try to pause the movie for 1 minute then play it if walang crackling sound after

Siguro nga. Pero nung tinry ko yung adapter sa kabilang pc ko using 9800gt tapos connected to the mobo's hdmi_spdif headers, wala naman hdmi-hdcp handshake issues.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 10:00 AM
i tried doing that sir pero ganun pa rin. nandun pa rin yung sound. anyways set the volume to zero nalang kasi if i mute the tv meron din yung image na mute na ayaw matanggal. for now wala talaga akong makitang fix.

I'd like to confirm if the audio input was set to analog (or the HDMI port was set to DVI). What's happening here is that the TV could not lock to a digital audio stream that it's expecting from what it thinks is an HDMI connection.

If there is no setting in your TV, plug a jack into the PC/DVI Audio In. Some TVs need to detect something in the DVI Audio in jack to stop looking for an audio stream via HDMI. Take note that you have to use the HDMI port that's earmarked for DVI use to make this work.
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 16, 2012 at 05:07 PM
I'd like to confirm if the audio input was set to analog (or the HDMI port was set to DVI). What's happening here is that the TV could not lock to a digital audio stream that it's expecting from what it thinks is an HDMI connection.

If there is no setting in your TV, plug a jack into the PC/DVI Audio In. Some TVs need to detect something in the DVI Audio in jack to stop looking for an audio stream via HDMI. Take note that you have to use the HDMI port that's earmarked for DVI use to make this work.

Yep tried..
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2012 at 10:12 PM
Yep tried..

Was there any sound with a jack that's hooked up? At least that confirms that the port is switched over to DVI mode.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 22, 2012 at 08:13 PM
hi guys,i have low budget desktop which consists of asrock g31m-vs2,manli ge force g210,1gb ddr2.question ko lang po can it display 1080 without any problem?kung sakali po ano yung part na dapat i upgrade or idagdag para mas gumanda yung performance?and lastly i downloaded splashpro ex kaya lang mag eexpire na sya.yung serial number na kasama nung dinownload ko yung player ayaw tangapin kasi blacklisted na daw patulong naman kasi mas ok sya para sa kin compared sa powerdvd na ginamit ko before.thanks
hi mga sir,ask ko lang kung magdagdag po ba ko ng another 1gb memory mas gaganda yung performance ng pc ko?mali kasi tanong ko dati (yung memory card video card naisulat ko  ;D)medyo mabagal na kasi sya magrespond minsan lalo na pag nag tuturn off ako.sobrang tagal bago sya mag shutdown
isa pa pong tanong 160gb po yung internal hdd ko,ok po ba na magdagdag ng 2t int hdd?me nakapagsabi kasi sa akin na dapat daw hangang 500gb lang kaya ng pc ko.thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 23, 2012 at 01:06 AM
hi mga sir,ask ko lang kung magdagdag po ba ko ng another 1gb memory mas gaganda yung performance ng pc ko?mali kasi tanong ko dati (yung memory card video card naisulat ko  ;D)medyo mabagal na kasi sya magrespond minsan lalo na pag nag tuturn off ako.sobrang tagal bago sya mag shutdown
isa pa pong tanong 160gb po yung internal hdd ko,ok po ba na magdagdag ng 2t int hdd?me nakapagsabi kasi sa akin na dapat daw hangang 500gb lang kaya ng pc ko.thanks

If your HDD is old, a new model will dramatically improve performance. Dun mo install yung OS and applications sa bago.

You can add another gig of RAM. It'd likely help, especially if you're running a newer OS. Better yet, add a 2GB stick for a total of 3GB.

As for your last question, your motherboard should not have problems supporting large-capacity HDDs. It helps to run a fairly recent BIOS version if you plan on going beyond 2TB, however.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Sep 23, 2012 at 04:51 AM
thanks for the suggestion master stagea,you've been very helpful as always.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:05 AM
Hmmm planning to setup my main HTPC with ITX form factor with 5 sta connection.  ;D ;D

(http://www.xpcomputers.co.nz/upload/product_images/0bae4058b8530cd947288eb5cfbdf44d99285.jpg)

(http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/446/images/Image_16S.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 23, 2012 at 12:42 PM
my new toy!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564339_4183315774518_1094972795_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 23, 2012 at 12:44 PM
my new toy!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564339_4183315774518_1094972795_n.jpg)

ayos hehe..ganda
ako din bumili ung logi mk220 lang ung mumurahin lang hehe...need ko maliit lang

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 23, 2012 at 01:25 PM
my new toy!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/564339_4183315774518_1094972795_n.jpg)

How much kuha mo nito bro?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:21 PM
available kaya to locally

(http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/images/1109/1316496455-logitech-revue-companion-box-with-google-tv-and-keyboard-controller-42.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Keyboard-Controller-Revue-Google/dp/B0040QE998/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1KLCA2GAXKIHS&coliid=I36IID1HVRZZDO (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Keyboard-Controller-Revue-Google/dp/B0040QE998/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1KLCA2GAXKIHS&coliid=I36IID1HVRZZDO)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 07:31 PM
available kaya to locally

(http://cdn.thetechjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/images/1109/1316496455-logitech-revue-companion-box-with-google-tv-and-keyboard-controller-42.jpg)

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Keyboard-Controller-Revue-Google/dp/B0040QE998/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1KLCA2GAXKIHS&coliid=I36IID1HVRZZDO (http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Keyboard-Controller-Revue-Google/dp/B0040QE998/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pdT1_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=1KLCA2GAXKIHS&coliid=I36IID1HVRZZDO)

Maganda ito brader. Pero di ko siya makita sa site ng Logitech products sa support meron.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:09 PM
How much kuha mo nito bro?

Dito ko sa Davao nabili sir for 19990.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:10 PM
Maganda ito brader. Pero di ko siya makita sa site ng Logitech products sa support meron.  ;D ;D

di ko nga din mahanap ung model para makapag tingin sa tpc  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:27 PM
di ko nga din mahanap ung model para makapag tingin sa tpc  :D

Mukhang phase out na pero mas ok pa din ako sa imon remote ko. Planning to build a ITX HTPC with lian li Q25 case 5 bay HDD hot swap. Baka bili ako nung pang 5.25 bay na imon then ipamod ko yung case or yung imon na LCD.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:46 PM
Mukhang phase out na pero mas ok pa din ako sa imon remote ko. Planning to build a ITX HTPC with lian li Q25 case 5 bay HDD hot swap. Baka bili ako nung pang 5.25 bay na imon then ipamod ko yung case or yung imon na LCD.  ;D ;D

pero mas bago sya sa K400 baka depende lang sa region, ok yan ah, ako naghahanap din ng horizontal na case na kasya ung veris hirap lang maghanap
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 08:54 PM
pero mas bago sya sa K400 baka depende lang sa region, ok yan ah, ako naghahanap din ng horizontal na case na kasya ung veris hirap lang maghanap

Puwede mo naman pamod brader para magkasaya ung veris. Lumalaki na din kasi ang collection ko and i like a small form factor like itx. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:06 PM
Puwede mo naman pamod brader para magkasaya ung veris. Lumalaki na din kasi ang collection ko and i like a small form factor like itx. ;D ;D ;D

kung ipapa mod ko siguro hanap ako ng mas mura mura ung mga nakikita ko kasing silverstone parang nakaka pang hinayang imod  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 23, 2012 at 09:08 PM
kung ipapa mod ko siguro hanap ako ng mas mura mura ung mga nakikita ko kasing silverstone parang nakaka pang hinayang imod  ;D

Maganda lang sa silverstone madami ang maacomodate na HDD. Nakakita na ako may mga magagaling naman mag mode parang ang gagawin lang jan is extend the 5.25 bay.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Sep 23, 2012 at 10:18 PM
Maganda lang sa silverstone madami ang maacomodate na HDD. Nakakita na ako may mga magagaling naman mag mode parang ang gagawin lang jan is extend the 5.25 bay.  ;D ;D

sige brader hanap ako ng design na magagaya, un din gusto ko sa silverstone para lahat ng hdd na sa loob na lang
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:19 AM
eto gamit ko na case for my HTPC. can fit 7 3.5 HDD plus 2 2.5 HDD beside PSU :)

Lian-Li PC-V354 - http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=546&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=63
(http://lian-li.com/v2/tw/product/upload/image/v354/v354-05.jpg)

target ko sana mini itx board, pero walang available dito sa davao at eto sana na case:

Lian-Li PC-Q08 - http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product06.php?pr_index=480&cl_index=1&sc_index=25&ss_index=64
(http://lian-li.com/v2/tw/product/upload/image/pc-q08/q08-08.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: berdilot™ on Sep 24, 2012 at 07:32 AM
Nice casing. I'm itching to transfer to itx form factor.


Anyone here planning to use z68 or z77 chipset mobo on their itx?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 24, 2012 at 09:03 AM
Nice casing. I'm itching to transfer to itx form factor.


Anyone here planning to use z68 or z77 chipset mobo on their itx?

I'm building a z77 + ivy bridge K for a friend at the moment.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 24, 2012 at 05:28 PM
I'm building a z77 + ivy bridge K for a friend at the moment.
master ivan pa-share ng total damage nyan ha ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: stockHT on Sep 24, 2012 at 09:48 PM
I'm building a z77 + ivy bridge K for a friend at the moment.

sir can share the specs for your build  ;D

thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:30 AM
master ivan pa-share ng total damage nyan ha ;)

Master Joko, estimate mga 60k without the slotload bd-rw (di pa makahanap locally) and storage drives. Medyo maselan kasi mayari.

sir can share the specs for your build  ;D

It's not my computer, so I'd rather not sir. Member po siya dito, so I'd leave that to him kung gusto nya ipost.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 25, 2012 at 02:43 AM
Master Joko, estimate mga 60k without the slotload bd-rw (di pa makahanap locally) and storage drives. Medyo maselan kasi mayari.

military grade htpc ;)
cool  O0
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2012 at 03:06 AM
military grade htpc ;)
cool  O0

Galing manghula. May connection nga ata yun sa military.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: berdilot™ on Sep 25, 2012 at 03:52 AM
Quote
Master Joko, estimate mga 60k without the slotload bd-rw (di pa makahanap locally) and storage drives. Medyo maselan kasi mayari.

Does this include the monitor or CPU lang? i7 K?  ;D

Napakasaya mag assemble ng PC for others lalo na kung almost the sky is the limit ang budget.


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2012 at 03:53 AM
Does this include the monitor or CPU lang? i7 K?  ;D

Napakasaya mag assemble ng PC for others lalo na kung almost the sky is the limit ang budget.

No monitor since dedicated HTPC siya. Midlevel build po. i5 K, lots of ram and dedicated video. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Sep 25, 2012 at 03:20 PM
remote update: O0
just got my new remote i ordered from ebay and its working "out of the box"(XBMC and WMC)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/206bibt.jpg)

antagal nga lang dumating. 32 days galing china :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2012 at 04:07 PM
remote update: O0
just got my new remote i ordered from ebay and its working "out of the box"(XBMC and WMC)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/206bibt.jpg)

antagal nga lang dumating. 32 days galing china :(

Congrats! I'm sure it's worth the wait.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 25, 2012 at 04:09 PM
remote update: O0
just got my new remote i ordered from ebay and its working "out of the box"(XBMC and WMC)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/206bibt.jpg)

antagal nga lang dumating. 32 days galing china :(

Thanks for sharing sir... umorder na rin ako sa ebay :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 29, 2012 at 08:11 AM
Thanks for sharing sir... umorder na rin ako sa ebay :)


Brader yan din bibilhin mo? Why not check the veris imon from amazon i think mas maganda siya.  O0 O0 O0

(http://store.antec.com/productimages/Originals/root/mms_elite.jpg.png)

Or

(http://www.ocmodshop.com/images/reviews/case_mods/antec_veris_premium/thumb_antec_veris_07.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 29, 2012 at 04:15 PM

Brader yan din bibilhin mo? Why not check the veris imon from amazon i think mas maganda siya.  O0 O0 O0

(http://store.antec.com/productimages/Originals/root/mms_elite.jpg.png)

Or

(http://www.ocmodshop.com/images/reviews/case_mods/antec_veris_premium/thumb_antec_veris_07.jpg)

naka order na sir :D

hanapin ko rin yan. :) 1 bay lang kasi yung lian-li ko tapos may paratang pa na internal blu-ray writer. walang malagyan :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 29, 2012 at 10:37 PM
naka order na sir :D

hanapin ko rin yan. :) 1 bay lang kasi yung lian-li ko tapos may paratang pa na internal blu-ray writer. walang malagyan :D
maluwag na maluwag pa bay area ng vs9 casing ko.pwede mo muna patago sakin ;)


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:03 AM
maluwag na maluwag pa bay area ng vs9 casing ko.pwede mo muna patago sakin ;)

yung 1 bay nalang hanapin ko sir. lagay ko nalang siguro ang blu-ray drive sa ibang PC :D hehehehe
baka di ako makapagawa ng Theatre room nito sa kaka gastos :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 30, 2012 at 12:43 PM
yung 1 bay nalang hanapin ko sir. lagay ko nalang siguro ang blu-ray drive sa ibang PC :D hehehehe
baka di ako makapagawa ng Theatre room nito sa kaka gastos :D
sabi mo lang yan ;)
magkakaron din tayo ng malulupit na gears kagay na mga masters dito.kayod lang ng kayod para makaipon



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: espionage on Sep 30, 2012 at 05:49 PM
Hi mga Gurus, need help! I just bought Sapphire ATI HD6450. Ang problema naka set-up lang ng 2 channels(2 AMD) at hindi na-detect ng 608 kung DD or DTS etc >:(. Kung ano yung default kong audio yun lang, unlike sa PS3 ko na detect ng 608 kung 5.1 or DTS-HD etc. Dati nung gamit ko pa on board vc gumagana yung iba't ibang audio. Hindi ko mahanap kung san i-adjust yung audio wala sa catalyst. My set-up is HTPC-onkyo-Monitor 2, using HDMI. Tnx! ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Sep 30, 2012 at 06:39 PM
Hi mga Gurus, need help! I just bought Sapphire ATI HD6450. Ang problema naka set-up lang ng 2 channels(2 AMD) at hindi na-detect ng 608 kung DD or DTS etc >:(. Kung ano yung default kong audio yun lang, unlike sa PS3 ko na detect ng 608 kung 5.1 or DTS-HD etc. Dati nung gamit ko pa on board vc gumagana yung iba't ibang audio. Hindi ko mahanap kung san i-adjust yung audio wala sa catalyst. My set-up is HTPC-onkyo-Monitor 2, using HDMI. Tnx! ;)

Check the player baka naman hindi HDMI ang gamit na audio.  ;D ;D

yung 1 bay nalang hanapin ko sir. lagay ko nalang siguro ang blu-ray drive sa ibang PC :D hehehehe
baka di ako makapagawa ng Theatre room nito sa kaka gastos :D


Ako naka external ang bluray writer saka sa totoo lang napapangitan ako dun sa isang remote parang may lawit pa na ikakabit.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Sep 30, 2012 at 08:28 PM
Check the player baka naman hindi HDMI ang gamit na audio.  ;D ;D
 

Ako naka external ang bluray writer saka sa totoo lang napapangitan ako dun sa isang remote parang may lawit pa na ikakabit.  ;D ;D

hehehehe oks lang sir, Php420 lang naman sa ebay. :D

Hanap pa ako yung Antec :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Sep 30, 2012 at 09:08 PM
Hi mga Gurus, need help! I just bought Sapphire ATI HD6450. Ang problema naka set-up lang ng 2 channels(2 AMD) at hindi na-detect ng 608 kung DD or DTS etc >:(. Kung ano yung default kong audio yun lang, unlike sa PS3 ko na detect ng 608 kung 5.1 or DTS-HD etc. Dati nung gamit ko pa on board vc gumagana yung iba't ibang audio. Hindi ko mahanap kung san i-adjust yung audio wala sa catalyst. My set-up is HTPC-onkyo-Monitor 2, using HDMI. Tnx! ;)

Try to disable first yung onboard Audio and video mo  in your BIOS and select audio and video sa VC.  Sa audio settings ng OS detected nalang ang VC.  Then set up mo yung video card audio settings sa Control Panel.  What media player are you using?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Sep 30, 2012 at 09:49 PM
go to sound setting set hdmi default.may tweak pa yan kung mpchc ang gamit mo.you need external decoder like ffdsho.kung splashP derecho na yan.powerdvd12 hd audio support.kung pdvd11 no way ka.same as vlc if im not mistaken
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on Sep 30, 2012 at 10:31 PM
Hi mga Gurus, need help! I just bought Sapphire ATI HD6450. Ang problema naka set-up lang ng 2 channels(2 AMD) at hindi na-detect ng 608 kung DD or DTS etc >:(. Kung ano yung default kong audio yun lang, unlike sa PS3 ko na detect ng 608 kung 5.1 or DTS-HD etc. Dati nung gamit ko pa on board vc gumagana yung iba't ibang audio. Hindi ko mahanap kung san i-adjust yung audio wala sa catalyst. My set-up is HTPC-onkyo-Monitor 2, using HDMI. Tnx! ;)

Eto din yung problema ko dati.. Try to turn your Receiver (Onkyo) first then your PC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: espionage on Sep 30, 2012 at 11:17 PM
Tnx mga Sir ;), I'll try tomorrow all your suggestion now lang me naka-upo uli :(. Nag lalaro kna mag-ina ko :P he he.
@nerveblocker tnx sir, ang gamit ko splashPro using HDMI Bitstream. @rhodem24 tnx unahin ko suggestion mo then kay sir nerveblocker pag di umubra. Tnx ng marami! ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Oct 01, 2012 at 06:26 AM
Right click speaker icon in your taskbar, choose playback devices, select AMD HDMI Output, or try other Audio out settings :) HTH

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Oct 01, 2012 at 07:17 AM
hehehehe oks lang sir, Php420 lang naman sa ebay. :D

Hanap pa ako yung Antec :)

Meron sa amazon nung sa antec.  >:D >:D

Try to disable first yung onboard Audio and video mo  in your BIOS and select audio and video sa VC.  Sa audio settings ng OS detected nalang ang VC.  Then set up mo yung video card audio settings sa Control Panel.  What media player are you using?

go to sound setting set hdmi default.may tweak pa yan kung mpchc ang gamit mo.you need external decoder like ffdsho.kung splashP derecho na yan.powerdvd12 hd audio support.kung pdvd11 no way ka.same as vlc if im not mistaken

+1

Kahit di na disable basta sa system tray choose HDMI and sa player mo choose HDMI din. It depends sa player yan try splash pro.

@joko bat yung splash pro ko di naman nag error kahit naka online yung HTPC ko.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: crazyhog on Oct 06, 2012 at 10:52 AM
pls help,

heres the story:
bought yesterday a 3m HDMI cable for my OLD RIG and connected to my PJ thru ONKYO receiver using HDMI but my problem is NO AUDIO is coming out. only video.

used different player, splash PRO, VLC to no avail. sa SPLASH PRO, i cant do HDMI bitstream cz naka disbale un option. only SPDiF and mga 5.1,7. etc ( but again, no audio ).

to isolate the problem, test the HDMI on xtreamer, everything is fine.
when i  reconnect the HDMI on my pc, a message prompt appear that ( no audio daw kc im using DVI-HDMI ) eh, hdmi - hdmi man gamit ko.

paano gawin ko na maaus eto ?


 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on Oct 06, 2012 at 12:08 PM
pls help,

heres the story:
bought yesterday a 3m HDMI cable for my OLD RIG and connected to my PJ thru ONKYO receiver using HDMI but my problem is NO AUDIO is coming out. only video.

used different player, splash PRO, VLC to no avail. sa SPLASH PRO, i cant do HDMI bitstream cz naka disbale un option. only SPDiF and mga 5.1,7. etc ( but again, no audio ).

to isolate the problem, test the HDMI on xtreamer, everything is fine.
when i  reconnect the HDMI on my pc, a message prompt appear that ( no audio daw kc im using DVI-HDMI ) eh, hdmi - hdmi man gamit ko.

paano gawin ko na maaus eto ?



hiram ka ibang hdmi cable.. may issue talaga ang onkyo sa hdmi
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Oct 08, 2012 at 05:19 AM
pls help,

heres the story:
bought yesterday a 3m HDMI cable for my OLD RIG and connected to my PJ thru ONKYO receiver using HDMI but my problem is NO AUDIO is coming out. only video.

used different player, splash PRO, VLC to no avail. sa SPLASH PRO, i cant do HDMI bitstream cz naka disbale un option. only SPDiF and mga 5.1,7. etc ( but again, no audio ).

to isolate the problem, test the HDMI on xtreamer, everything is fine.
when i  reconnect the HDMI on my pc, a message prompt appear that ( no audio daw kc im using DVI-HDMI ) eh, hdmi - hdmi man gamit ko.

paano gawin ko na maaus eto ?


 

Ano po ang graphics adapter ng system nyo?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: crazyhog on Oct 08, 2012 at 02:38 PM
Ano po ang graphics adapter ng system nyo?

SOLVED! instead of using the on-board graphics card, ginamit ko n lang ang ati 4850 kO. auN lumabas ang audio.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Digities on Nov 22, 2012 at 10:38 PM
you can try at least a 5xxx series video card for bitstreaming of HD audio (dts - hd / true hd), blah blah blah :).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jambam on Jan 09, 2013 at 12:45 AM
Hi Guys,

I see a lot of post of new hardware for HTPC's ...  I had some free time to day and put the effort in improving my video quality using software ..

Pls. look for guides in using MPC-hc + MadVR +LAV . The time I spent today really improved the video output to my projector ..

Here is one link.

 http://www.avsforum.com/t/1357375/advanced-mpc-hc-setup-guide.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jan 11, 2013 at 05:23 PM
Intel is demoing Haswell in CES. It has what seems like Trinity-class graphics. The future Mobile i7's built-in GPU delivered frame rates that are slightly behind the GT650M discrete solution. This is precisely where the Mobile A10 is at when it comes to graphics performance.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Jan 17, 2013 at 12:32 AM
Just a couple of questions on using a gaming PC with a DVI output gfx card as primary source in an HT set-up :

1) Can I use an HDMI to DVI cable to route the video through the receiver, that way I can see its set-up menus on the LED TV? Or I just have to make do with the receiver's screen since I have to hook up the PC directly to the TV?

2) If I use an optical cable to hook up the motherboard's sound card to the receiver, is there any possibility that the video and audio will be out of sync, like back before there was HDMI? I can't seem to see the video-audio sync function on receivers' features list anymore and I'm thinking if this might possibly be because HDMI 1.3 and up eliminated that problem (which would still be a problem if I'm not using HDMI 1.3).

EDIT : Found A/V sync listed on Onkyo brochure ; looking through PDFs now maybe it's there for other brands too (or I'm just getting dizzy reading the features list on web pages)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jan 17, 2013 at 02:35 AM
1) Can I use an HDMI to DVI cable to route the video through the receiver, that way I can see its set-up menus on the LED TV? Or I just have to make do with the receiver's screen since I have to hook up the PC directly to the TV?

You can do this as long as your PC supports standard video resolutions.

2) If I use an optical cable to hook up the motherboard's sound card to the receiver, is there any possibility that the video and audio will be out of sync, like back before there was HDMI? I can't seem to see the video-audio sync function on receivers' features list anymore and I'm thinking if this might possibly be because HDMI 1.3 and up eliminated that problem (which would still be a problem if I'm not using HDMI 1.3).

There is a chance. Check for a lipsync/audio delay setting. If your receiver does not have it, then you can use a player with this feature.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ProtegeManiac on Jan 17, 2013 at 08:57 AM
You can do this as long as your PC supports standard video resolutions.

I think it does - will check with my brother but I think his GT560 should have the settings for it. I'm actually more familiar with AMD's system (with crossfire APU's, etc) as I was about to build a miniITX rig, plsu the laptop I've been using, but then he volunteered his old Intel-NVidia rig. That's what left me with cash for speakers.

There is a chance. Check for a lipsync/audio delay setting. If your receiver does not have it, then you can use a player with this feature.

Thanks, just checked - lots of media players have it apparently; but I'll have to do some research on how to A/V sync games using the PC's sound settings just in case.  Although given the games I play being off by microseconds isn't probably going to be a liability.


Thanks for the help, really appreciate it. I'm getting dizzy looking at all these features :D

----

EDIT : My friend in the US bought the GT560Ti from my brother, and my bro replaced it with an HD7850 with HMDI. Can't find the exact version, but based on the gfx card's manual, it can send audio out through HDMI, so at minimum it's HDMI1.3, I think. So problem solved  ;D


...for now anyway; while using Google for the manual I found a lot of threads where the Sapphire card using the same AMD-ATi chip has issues with audio drop-outs, more often with media than games, so it's likely the media player or drivers than an inherent hardware flaw.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: busabos on Jan 18, 2013 at 11:09 PM
Just a quick question, will I notice an improvement on picture quality (clarity, sharpness, detail, etc) if I upgrade my video card?

I'm currently using GTX9800, so far it's working fine.  I'm just thinking of using my other video card (GTX 260) from my main pc since Im not using it anymore for gaming, however if there wont be any noticable improvement, then Id rather not, just to save myself from the hassle of dismantling 2 PCs.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jan 19, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Question lang mga Gurus planning to build HTPC
What is the most important component specifically for HTPC?
Is it motherboard?,videocard?,processor cpu?,HDD?,PSU?
Your input will give an idea to allocate budget for each component
Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Jan 20, 2013 at 07:45 AM
processsor-depend on your needs if you want multi tasking go for quad core
motherboard...choose one that best fit your needs like features ex... usb 3.0,sata 111,frnt usb 3.0,pcie 2.0 etc
video card...depend on needs...if your on gaming/movie you can choose higher cards..
psu...very important but always been neglected..choose reliable psu...80 plus bronze or higher...
HDD...if you want big storage go for higher TB...
ram...4gb ram is ok and suited for most process but higher ram is also very good.

hope it helps...

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jan 30, 2013 at 08:53 PM
I found this while searching the following keywords on Google: "intel i3-3220 3d blu-ray playback"
http://my-htpc.co.uk/shop/article_121-001/my-MediaCentre-3D-Intel-i3-3220-(Ivybridge)-Zeno-fanless-with-64Gb-SSD.html?shop_param=cid%3D4%26aid%3D121-001%26 (http://my-htpc.co.uk/shop/article_121-001/my-MediaCentre-3D-Intel-i3-3220-(Ivybridge)-Zeno-fanless-with-64Gb-SSD.html?shop_param=cid%3D4%26aid%3D121-001%26)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:39 PM
Question lang mga Gurus planning to build HTPC
What is the most important component specifically for HTPC?
Is it motherboard?,videocard?,processor cpu?,HDD?,PSU?
Your input will give an idea to allocate budget for each component
Thanks!

HTPC is quite a broad definition ... you can basically call any computer an HTPC if you connect it to your big screen or if you're simply watching your movies on it ... if we follow the more general HTPC setup, which is almost a direct equivalent of NMT's today, what you would be looking for is low power, low noise, processor and graphics that can play today's HD and 3D videos, and casing with the right aesthetics to blend with your other AV components.

If your building an HTPC to blend with your AV components, best to start with the casing and PSU ... then the choice of CPU would dictate your choice of motherboard ... new AMD and Intel CPU's have integrated GPU's, i would recommend the AMD A10 FM2 processors - this setup would work on HD movies without the need for discrete GPU ... 4GB memory minimum, at least 8GB recommended ... 450W PSU would work on such a minimalistic setup - look for PSU's with 80%+ efficiency and good reviews in terms of noise produced ... biggest HDD capacity recommended, and a 60GB SSD for the system disk
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:44 PM
HTPC is quite a broad definition ... you can basically call any computer an HTPC if you connect it to your big screen or if you're simply watching your movies on it ... if we follow the more general HTPC setup, which is almost a direct equivalent of NMT's today, what you would be looking for is low power, low noise, processor and graphics that can play today's HD and 3D videos, and casing with the right aesthetics to blend with your other AV components.

If your building an HTPC to blend with your AV components, best to start with the casing and PSU ... then the choice of CPU would dictate your choice of motherboard ... new AMD and Intel CPU's have integrated GPU's, i would recommend the AMD A10 FM2 processors - this setup would work on HD movies without the need for discrete GPU ... 4GB memory minimum, at least 8GB recommended ... 450W PSU would work on such a minimalistic setup - look for PSU's with 80%+ efficiency and good reviews in terms of noise produced ... biggest HDD capacity recommended, and a 60GB SSD for the system disk

+1

If you dont want clutter of hdd with usb connection you might want HTPC case with a lot of 3.5 and 5.254 slot.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 30, 2013 at 09:55 PM
how much pinakmura at ok na SSD?? 60gb will be fine
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jan 30, 2013 at 10:04 PM
how much pinakmura at ok na SSD?? 60gb will be fine

+/- 3k ang 60GB. Intel, Corsair, Samsung, and OCZ are good brands.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jan 30, 2013 at 10:26 PM
how much pinakmura at ok na SSD?? 60gb will be fine

Kung madami ka na programs na install mas maganda 120GB or 128GB alam ko nasa 4-5k lang yan.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ngek2x on Jan 31, 2013 at 08:47 AM
Mga bro pa help naman.
meron akong laptop na HP dm1z(AMD E-350).
pagkinabit ko na yung laptop ko sa AVR (Pio 521) using HDMI
biglang nag BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death ).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Jan 31, 2013 at 08:52 AM
Mga bro pa help naman.
meron akong laptop na HP dm1z(AMD E-350).
pagkinabit ko na yung laptop ko sa AVR (Pio 521) using HDMI
biglang nag BSOD (Blue Screen Of Death ).


take note mo ang message sa error code ng BSOD.para madali mag troubleshoot.
katulad nito:
STOP Error 0x00000001 to STOP Error 0x0000005F
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ngek2x on Jan 31, 2013 at 09:07 AM
Ah sige bro check ko mamaya .
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Jan 31, 2013 at 10:27 AM
take note mo ang message sa error code ng BSOD.para madali mag troubleshoot.
katulad nito:
STOP Error 0x00000001 to STOP Error 0x0000005F

pdvd community is very helpful, but you would get quicker and more detailed answer if you ask pareng Google for that error message :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 31, 2013 at 11:17 AM
theres one pick up line i always use sa mga agent ko before haha

derick:para kang google........
agent:bakit TL Derick?
derick:kase asayo lahat ng hinahanap ko e.....kaboooom!!!!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Jan 31, 2013 at 11:33 AM
pdvd community is very helpful, but you would get quicker and more detailed answer if you ask pareng Google for that error message :)
tama ka jan sir, si Google lang katapat. pero di naman sya siguro gano ka technical kaya dito nya ipinost ang inquiry nya.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Jan 31, 2013 at 11:37 AM
tama ka jan sir, si Google lang katapat. pero di naman sya siguro gano ka technical kaya dito nya ipinost ang inquiry nya.

siguro mean lang ni brader raptor...once nakuha nya ung error code mas madale nya makita kay google..
kasi mamaya wala pang sumagot agad saten dito...
just my two cents
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ngek2x on Jan 31, 2013 at 03:44 PM
akala ko common problem lang sya. i tried updating ATI(Vcard) and BIOS.
try ko mamaya pag uwi ko. sana wala ng problem.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jan 31, 2013 at 09:03 PM
I just found out that the case I plan to buy (the Cooler Master Elite 361) is too long for my AV rack. so I'm changing my plan and going for an ITX build!  ;)


paging Stagea,

you use a TomMade case right? how is its internal temps and psu reliability?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Feb 01, 2013 at 03:00 AM
siguro mean lang ni brader raptor...once nakuha nya ung error code mas madale nya makita kay google..
kasi mamaya wala pang sumagot agad saten dito...
just my two cents

yes sir, baka kasi matagalan may sumagot, and likely if he's going to post the error codes here, the other members who would help would likely use google as well :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 01, 2013 at 03:11 AM
paging Stagea,

you use a TomMade case right? how is its internal temps and psu reliability?

I don't use one, but we do have one sa MLY. I can't vouch for its reliability as the model we have is really cheaply made. We just needed a computer that'd play music. Paul liked the aesthetics for the price, so we went with that.

The case itself is fairly well designed for its selling price. It'd support a basic computer for entry level use. Thermals are quite good as it comes with 2 buzzing fans (which I very gladly sped down).

Treat the power supply as a 200W unit if you'd want it to work fairly well. I can't imagine how it can deliver its claimed 500W rating.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ngek2x on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:42 AM
outdate lang ata yung Vcard ko kaya nag BSOD yung Laptop ko.
sorry po next time ma google nalang muna ako before magtanong dito..

installed XBMC + Cdrking Keyboard (BT) = FTW (as of now)
next HTPC na talaga. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Feb 01, 2013 at 08:38 PM
I don't use one, but we do have one sa MLY. I can't vouch for its reliability as the model we have is really cheaply made. We just needed a computer that'd play music. Paul liked the aesthetics for the price, so we went with that.

The case itself is fairly well designed for its selling price. It'd support a basic computer for entry level use. Thermals are quite good as it comes with 2 buzzing fans (which I very gladly sped down).

Treat the power supply as a 200W unit if you'd want it to work fairly well. I can't imagine how it can deliver its claimed 500W rating.


thanks for the feedback! I guess it'll do as a temporary case. :)  I just get a nicer case when I have the extra funds. I'm aiming for the Fractal Node 304. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bashi on Feb 01, 2013 at 09:45 PM
I'm adding a new optical drive, meron ba brand mas better sa iba in terms of ripping? I'm converting some of my cd's, meron ba certain brand okay dyan or any brand will do?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:09 PM
hmm you can try the samsung,lite-on...pero based on reviews plextor is top of them...kaso di ko sure kung meron locally...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bashi on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:19 PM
hmm you can try the samsung,lite-on...pero based on reviews plextor is top of them...kaso di ko sure kung meron locally...

thanks, yeah meron plextor though mahirap hanapin na
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:22 PM
I'm adding a new optical drive, meron ba brand mas better sa iba in terms of ripping? I'm converting some of my cd's, meron ba certain brand okay dyan or any brand will do?

A drive that does not cache during DAE is usually better, especially from a performance and software standpoint. In-drive error correction is also a factor.

For the cheap drives, TSST is pretty good.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:24 PM
hmm you can try the samsung,lite-on...pero based on reviews plextor is top of them...kaso di ko sure kung meron locally...

Plextor was really good a long time ago (they used to be higher spec devices sourced from NEC or Pioneer). The new ones are just rebrands of the same banana.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: bashi on Feb 01, 2013 at 10:28 PM
A drive that does not cache during DAE is usually better, especially from a performance and software standpoint. In-drive error correction is also a factor.

For the cheap drives, TSST is pretty good.

thank you, will definitely check that out, kailangan ko na convert several cd's ko, some nasisira na :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ngek2x on Feb 05, 2013 at 05:38 PM
Mga bro ask ko naman if ano mas ok na VideoCard for my old PC (gagawin kong HTPC)
MSI HD6570 1gb Ddr3  or PowerColor HD6570 2gb  Ddr3? or you can suggest.
budget 3K below


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 05, 2013 at 05:56 PM
^ HD 6670 1GB DDR5 for me. :P Or dagdag ka 700 pesos for HD 7750.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Feb 05, 2013 at 06:22 PM
got for preowned 6770...i think mrn 3k nun
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ngek2x on Feb 06, 2013 at 08:38 AM
Malaki po ba difference ng DDR5 sa DDR3 for watching movies?
may nakita kasi ako Asus HD 6670 1gb/128bit ddr3 pero 3.7K
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Feb 06, 2013 at 08:53 AM
Malaki po ba difference ng DDR5 sa DDR3 for watching movies?
may nakita kasi ako Asus HD 6670 1gb/128bit ddr3 pero 3.7K

Nope, there's very little difference between them for movie playback. It's the shader power that matters more for this purpose (for GPU-accelerated post-processing).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Feb 06, 2013 at 08:55 AM
Malaki po ba difference ng DDR5 sa DDR3 for watching movies?
may nakita kasi ako Asus HD 6670 1gb/128bit ddr3 pero 3.7K

DDR5 is much lesser in power consumption than DDR3 IMHO.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Mar 01, 2013 at 09:59 AM
Gudam...question lang po...does all sata cables the same?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Mar 01, 2013 at 11:52 AM
yes sa alam ko... sa sata.. same ang saksakan pati sa notebook hd.. hehe
maliban lang sa.. dvd ng laptop mas maliit saksakan.. di ko lang alam kung sata din tawag dun..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Mar 09, 2013 at 06:03 AM
ahh..hmm does all sata cables have same speed?i mean yun mga nabibili sata cables..ala nm po kasing nka indicate if sata 1,2 or 3..thank you...

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Mar 09, 2013 at 08:39 PM
ahh..hmm does all sata cables have same speed?i mean yun mga nabibili sata cables..ala nm po kasing nka indicate if sata 1,2 or 3..thank you...

Not all sata are same new board are sata 3 but backward compatible to sata. Sayang naman ang sata 3 kung gagamitin mo ng sata lalo na pag sata 3 na din ang hdd mo.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ajt on Mar 11, 2013 at 08:05 PM
Good pm mga sir, tanong lang ako kung ma improve ba video and sound quality pag xtreamer pro to htpc?

may onkyo avr kasi ako tapos xtreamer pro pero wala pa ako pang audio plano ko bumili ng cd player kaso parang mas sulit htpc para nandun na lahat music, movies, bluray, cds..

same lang ba audio quality cd player vs htpc?
mahirap ba mag setup ng kailangan na drivers and softwares na pang htpc?

Thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on Apr 10, 2013 at 04:44 PM
Hi Guys!

I havent been updated on laptop CPUs for the past 3 years and the last Vaio I bought has Core i3.  Now, Im considering getting a new laptop again.  All my current and previous PCs are Intel-powered but all my GPUs are ATI.  Anyway, I saw an AMD A10-4600M powered Toshiba with integrated AMD 7660 GPU that seems to be nice and reasonable. How does that CPU compare with Intel's Core i?

Nope, I dont need an HTPC.  I need a new laptop.  hehehe

Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Apr 10, 2013 at 09:12 PM
Hi Guys!

I havent been updated on laptop CPUs for the past 3 years and the last Vaio I bought has Core i3.  Now, Im considering getting a new laptop again.  All my current and previous PCs are Intel-powered but all my GPUs are ATI.  Anyway, I saw an AMD A10-4600M powered Toshiba with integrated AMD 7660 GPU that seems to be nice and reasonable. How does that CPU compare with Intel's Core i?

Nope, I dont need an HTPC.  I need a new laptop.  hehehe

Thanks!

it's about as powerful as mobile Sandybridge i5. check this out: http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html (http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html)

that same APU is in MSI's gaming laptop, the GX60! http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/MSI_GX60_1AC_A10+ (http://www.villman.com/Product-Detail/MSI_GX60_1AC_A10+)  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Apr 11, 2013 at 06:07 AM
Gudam...question lang po...does all sata cables the same?

nope, SATA3 cables are backward compatible to 1 an 2, but if you use SATA1 or SATA2 cables for SATA3 ports, it is possible that you would not achieve the rated speed
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Nikkie on Apr 14, 2013 at 07:46 AM
May nabibilhan ba nung feet gaya ng sa receivers?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Apr 14, 2013 at 08:36 AM
May nabibilhan ba nung feet gaya ng sa receivers?
why not cones from kuya obet aka Narayan, mas maganda :)
Pero may nakita ako sa japan 88 peso store dati na bump on
88 each or 66 each yata maganda parang pang receiver, kaso adhesive sya di screw type
try ace hardware din
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 14, 2013 at 08:47 AM
Eto mga cones form kuya obet thread.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7238/7353145516_378b9ba0a8.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7097/7353142384_f760b5a763.jpg)

 >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Nikkie on Apr 14, 2013 at 01:41 PM
Thanks! I'll check his thread.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Apr 24, 2013 at 08:13 PM
Gudpm...any users of a10-5700..pa help nm po sa adjustment..mdyo blurred kc yun outut nya eh..thx
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 24, 2013 at 08:20 PM
Gudpm...any users of a10-5700..pa help nm po sa adjustment..mdyo blurred kc yun outut nya eh..thx

Nakakuha ka na pala ng A10-5700. What player you are using? What kind of blurred sa text or sa movies? What is the setting of your setup. I remember the default setup on my A10-5700 is not blurred when i first setup my HTPC.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Apr 24, 2013 at 08:50 PM
opo hehe im using splash pro sir...hmm nka peg pla kya blurred...i try to use igd ok na po sya heheh..sir ano po temp ng a10-5700?idle and with load..thx po
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 25, 2013 at 08:42 AM
opo hehe im using splash pro sir...hmm nka peg pla kya blurred...i try to use igd ok na po sya heheh..sir ano po temp ng a10-5700?idle and with load..thx po

Di ko regular na check ang temp ng HTPC. Pero alam ko last time na check ko di pa abot ng 40. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Apr 26, 2013 at 09:42 AM
awts..hmm sir did you use aftermarket cooler or the stock fan?thx
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:26 AM
awts..hmm sir did you use aftermarket cooler or the stock fan?thx

Nope i dont use after market cooler but i have tested the temp last january which is di pa ganun kainit. I tested today and the max is 48 which is i think okay pa din naman.

Additional software for our HTPC reclock.

Reclock x86 : This software is very clever, thanks to it everything will be perfect if your TV does not be set to the frequency of the video. Indeed it will change the framerate of the video to be set to the frequency of the screen to avoid stutters.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Apr 26, 2013 at 11:57 AM
baba ng temps nyo sir...skin po kasi normal 55 to 60...hmm ill already use aftermarket cooler...nag iisp tuloy me to change my case and use tower cooler...i will try the reclock x86 thank you sir..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 26, 2013 at 12:04 PM
baba ng temps nyo sir...skin po kasi normal 55 to 60...hmm ill already use aftermarket cooler...nag iisp tuloy me to change my case and use tower cooler...i will try the reclock x86 thank you sir..

No problem why not use silverstone HTPC case with a lot of HDD slots. If you go matx or uatx build make sure na ang case mo has a head room for air flow and kung puwede aluminum case like lian li.  >:D >:D


Yung sa akin pag naka close ang harap parang amp din lang. Yung case ko can accomodate 6x120mm and default installed 3x120mm. I use Arctic Silver 5 for the thermal solution of my proc.  ;) ;)

(http://daydull.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/arctic_silver5.jpg)

(http://www.silverstonetek.com/images/products/gd07/GD07-34View-02.jpg)

(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ2sqQmPlTmVmPCoKV0bu1p-GgGTvcJdDro73WScGKQMCi6k_bE)

@doc mel

Eto ba gamit mo sa MCE Remote Control mo?

We need to change permissions on the default launcher so we can copy over it:
1. Go to "C:\Windows\ehome"
2. In the "ehome" directory, right click "ehshell.exe" and choose "Properties"
3. Click on the "Security" tab and click on the "Advanced" button at the bottom.
4. Click on the "Owner" tab and click the "Edit" button.
5. Select "Administrators" and hit "OK."
6. Click "OK" in the "Advanced Security Settings for ehshell.exe" dialog.
7. In the "ehshell.exe Properties" dialog, click on "Administrators" under "Group or user names" and click the "Edit" button.
8. Select "Administrators" (or add that group if it isn't already there) and check the "Full Control" box in the Allow column.
9. "OK" out of all the properties and permissions dialogs.
10. While in "C:\Windows\ehome", copy ehshell.exe and paste it somewhere safe as a backup, in case you ever need to restore.

Now, we can copy the new launcher.
11. From this folder (the one this readme file is in), copy ehshell.exe
12. Paste the modified "ehshell.exe" in the "C:\Windows\ehome" directory.

Now when you press the start button on your Windows media remote, it will launch XBMC instead.

OPTIONAL: Command Line Arguments
13. If you want to add command line arguments, place a file named "XBMCLaunchArgs.txt" in the "C:\Windows\ehome" directory.
14. The contents of the text file should be the command line arguments you would like to run with.

XMBC Launcher file http://www.2shared.com/file/N_vnG17x/ehshell.html (http://www.2shared.com/file/N_vnG17x/ehshell.html)

External player with XMBC with download links that you can save and use.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?pid=957966%23pid957966#post957966 (http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?pid=957966%23pid957966#post957966)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: intellution on Apr 26, 2013 at 04:13 PM
To the HTPC experts out there...planning to build my first htpc soon just want to ask some queries that I have in mind. 
- Planning to have it as small as possible using an SSD as OS/XBMC storage and run my files (movies, music, etc) from a NAS..is this possible?
- Is there a minimum GPU to use to run 1080p non-3D? Do they all allow DTS/Dolby passthru? Or is there a small form factor motherboard with an onboard GPU good enough to run 1080p with passthru.

TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Apr 26, 2013 at 05:32 PM
To the HTPC experts out there...planning to build my first htpc soon just want to ask some queries that I have in mind. 
- Planning to have it as small as possible using an SSD as OS/XBMC storage and run my files (movies, music, etc) from a NAS..is this possible?
- Is there a minimum GPU to use to run 1080p non-3D? Do they all allow DTS/Dolby passthru? Or is there a small form factor motherboard with an onboard GPU good enough to run 1080p with passthru.

TIA

onboard Intel graphics is enough for 1080P playback. you'll need at least an i3 if you want 3D.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 26, 2013 at 05:42 PM
To the HTPC experts out there...planning to build my first htpc soon just want to ask some queries that I have in mind. 
- Planning to have it as small as possible using an SSD as OS/XBMC storage and run my files (movies, music, etc) from a NAS..is this possible?
- Is there a minimum GPU to use to run 1080p non-3D? Do they all allow DTS/Dolby passthru? Or is there a small form factor motherboard with an onboard GPU good enough to run 1080p with passthru.

TIA

You need HD4000 lower that HD4000 is not good IMHO. If i300 make sure it has the HD4000 GPU.  ;) ;) ;)

You can also get AMD trinity for your HTPC.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Apr 27, 2013 at 04:39 AM
imho i3 kahit first gen can easily play 1080p with no problems.. even celerons
as far as i know x4500 can play any 1080p.. and chipset pa yun ng cd/c2d days...

yung g31 kaya mag play ng maliit na file na 1080p... (and that is super old entry level intel)
(for non-3d)

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107-7.html



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 27, 2013 at 04:56 AM
To the HTPC experts out there...planning to build my first htpc soon just want to ask some queries that I have in mind. 
- Planning to have it as small as possible using an SSD as OS/XBMC storage and run my files (movies, music, etc) from a NAS..is this possible?
- Is there a minimum GPU to use to run 1080p non-3D? Do they all allow DTS/Dolby passthru? Or is there a small form factor motherboard with an onboard GPU good enough to run 1080p with passthru.

TIA

I have an AMD E-350 1.6 GHz ITX build which can play even BDs and BD ISOs smoothly.  With 3D, you need a more powerful proc.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 27, 2013 at 04:59 AM
Quote
@doc mel

Eto ba gamit mo sa MCE Remote Control mo?

We need to change permissions on the default launcher so we can copy over it:
1. Go to "C:\Windows\ehome"
2. In the "ehome" directory, right click "ehshell.exe" and choose "Properties"
3. Click on the "Security" tab and click on the "Advanced" button at the bottom.
4. Click on the "Owner" tab and click the "Edit" button.
5. Select "Administrators" and hit "OK."
6. Click "OK" in the "Advanced Security Settings for ehshell.exe" dialog.
7. In the "ehshell.exe Properties" dialog, click on "Administrators" under "Group or user names" and click the "Edit" button.
8. Select "Administrators" (or add that group if it isn't already there) and check the "Full Control" box in the Allow column.
9. "OK" out of all the properties and permissions dialogs.
10. While in "C:\Windows\ehome", copy ehshell.exe and paste it somewhere safe as a backup, in case you ever need to restore.

Now, we can copy the new launcher.
11. From this folder (the one this readme file is in), copy ehshell.exe
12. Paste the modified "ehshell.exe" in the "C:\Windows\ehome" directory.

Now when you press the start button on your Windows media remote, it will launch XBMC instead.

OPTIONAL: Command Line Arguments
13. If you want to add command line arguments, place a file named "XBMCLaunchArgs.txt" in the "C:\Windows\ehome" directory.
14. The contents of the text file should be the command line arguments you would like to run with.

XMBC Launcher file http://www.2shared.com/file/N_vnG17x/ehshell.html

External player with XMBC with download links that you can save and use.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?pid=957966%23pid957966#post957966
R

Bookmarked! Whenever I push the START button on my remote, Windows Media Center is the one that launches not XBMC.  I tried the MCE Remote Add-on in XBMC and tried to configure the remote buttons but it didn't change any functions.  :-[
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: intellution on Apr 27, 2013 at 08:43 AM
Guys thanks for the quick reply appreciate the help.  From wht I have read so far in other sites, if I want to go for a small form factor miniITX board, those new boards only cater to i3 and up CPUs, is that correct? Would it be cheaper to go this pathway eliminating the need for a video card as these boards are HD ready....may available bang miniITX board sa mga PC shops here?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Apr 27, 2013 at 10:40 AM
meron mini itx sa shops natin sir.. try pchub and pcoptions sa gilmore. imho both sila competitive sa price...
kayalang premium po prices ng itx..

i think since gagawin mong htpc.. importante din po sayo hdmi so.. do remember to check po if yung kukunin niyo may hdmi sa motherboard since wala kayong balak mag videocard..(muntik kasi ako bumili ng entry level mobo na walang hdmi... buti bigla pumasok sa isip ko na i will not be having a videocard)

if hindi po kayo mag gagames... it is more than enough.. kahit G620/G630.. good enough for me...

yung suggest ni sir xrampage.. ok din... for htpc.. alot of people use his suggested setup.. kasi malakas ang graphics niya.. so malaki headroom mo.. but hindi naman maganda na sabihin na "hindi kaya 1080p ng ibang setup.. ito lang ang kaya" hehe
cons lang mas mababa siya sa processing and maybe mas matakaw ng kunti sa kuryente.. pag player mo lang naman.. baliwala yun.. pero pag torrent machine mo siya.. i would suggest intel..

for me.. i prefer intel route since mas bagay siya sa purpose ko..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 27, 2013 at 11:29 AM
master ivan


-sapphire 6670 crossfire with a6
-sapphire 7750

yahoo.....
sarap mag kalikot ng htpc
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: intellution on Apr 27, 2013 at 09:49 PM
@AlvinC..thanks sa suggestion, will keep it in mind.  Saw your HTPCs on the other thread...very nice.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 27, 2013 at 09:54 PM
Bookmarked! Whenever I push the START button on my remote, Windows Media Center is the one that launches not XBMC.  I tried the MCE Remote Add-on in XBMC and tried to configure the remote buttons but it didn't change any functions.  :-[

Natest mo na doc?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Apr 28, 2013 at 05:08 AM
Natest mo na doc?

Yup.  It worked!  Isa kang henyo!  ;) My other problem is to map out the other buttons in the  MCE remote so I can make full use of the keyboard functions. Wishful thinking lang but I can achieve all of the functions naman.  I just have to pass through the menu by pressing enter.   :) 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:08 AM
Yup.  It worked!  Isa kang henyo!  ;) My other problem is to map out the other buttons in the  MCE remote so I can make full use of the keyboard functions. Wishful thinking lang but I can achieve all of the functions naman.  I just have to pass through the menu by pressing enter.   :) 

Tsamba lang un doc nice to hear it work.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:25 AM
Tsamba lang un doc nice to hear it work.  ;) ;)
Sis upgrade tayo VideoCard

Crossfire 6670 or mag 7750 tayo hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:27 AM
Sis upgrade tayo VideoCard

Crossfire 6670 or mag 7750 tayo hehe


Bahala na mag SSD muna ako na 128gb.... Baka di gumana ang cross fire ko at ako ang mafire. Ayus na ayus ung hot swap.  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:31 AM
Bahala na mag SSD muna ako na 128gb.... Baka di gumana ang cross fire ko at ako ang mafire. Ayus na ayus ung hot swap.  >:D >:D >:D

60gb ssd lang ako...

iswap ko ung 1tb external ko sa ssd or vc hehe....

hindi ko pa madownload ung pdvd 13...
may bago bang version ung tmt?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:34 AM
60gb ssd lang ako...

iswap ko ung 1tb external ko sa ssd or vc hehe....

hindi ko pa madownload ung pdvd 13...
may bago bang version ung tmt?

Ou meron check mo lang si K. Di mo madownload kasi galing sa akin yung link di na din nag work..  ;D ;D

ang pde icross fire sa A10 HD 6670 or 6570 pero sa tingin ko SSD na lang muna ako.  >:D >:D

Baka upgrade ko torrent rig ko to HTPC intel naman para maiba para sa master bed room.. Pero baka matagalan pa mga sept pa.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:40 AM
imho best bang for buck upgrade ssd...
hehe 1st gen man or latest gen..

regular hd to ssd ocz 60gb laki ng performance gain.. parang bilis ng pc...

later got sandisk extreme and kingston hyperX 120gb... well.. sabi ng charts/windows experience mas mabilis.. but didnt really feel the difference.. hehe...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 09:46 AM
Derick sabi sa iyo eh mag SSD ka para bumilis kasi sa akin babagal yan.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:10 AM
mabilis naman ung htpc...

gusto ko lang ng upgrade...haha...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:15 AM
mabilis naman ung htpc...

gusto ko lang ng upgrade...haha...


Hahaha di nakuha yung post ko... Wala na ba yung cartoon ng proc mo? Kasi andun yung puwede crossfire sa gpu mo. Kung 7750 alam ko di puwede yan 6670 lang ata puwede. Puwede ka naman upgrade SSD.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Hahaha di nakuha yung post ko... Wala na ba yung cartoon ng proc mo? Kasi andun yung puwede crossfire sa gpu mo. Kung 7750 alam ko di puwede yan 6670 lang ata puwede. Puwede ka naman upgrade SSD.  >:D >:D

6670 lang ang max crossfire ng amd a6 to a10

pero ung 7750 mas mataas rate sa passmark ganda din power consumption(low consumption)
so lets say a10 + 6670 < radeon 7750
mas maganda ung 7750 tapos future proof 4k na ung video
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:28 AM
6670 lang ang max crossfire ng amd a6 to a10

pero ung 7750 mas mataas rate sa passmark ganda din power consumption(low consumption)
so lets say a10 + 6670 < radeon 7750
mas maganda ung 7750 tapos future proof 4k na ung video


Haha binenta ko nga yung 7750 ko  dati.. Pag ang 4k video mababa na may mas magandang VC na lalabas kaya bat pa ako mag invest sa 4k na VC kung di mo pa naman gagamitin.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Haha binenta ko nga yung 7750 ko  dati.. Pag ang 4k video mababa na may mas magandang VC na lalabas kaya bat pa ako mag invest sa 4k na VC kung di mo pa naman gagamitin.  >:D >:D
hindi kita pinagiimbes sa 4k ....ungas...
sabi ko lang future proof...
mas better vc lang kasi ung 7750 sa 6670
type ko lang magupgrade ng vc na low power consumption
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:56 AM
hindi kita pinagiimbes sa 4k ....ungas...
sabi ko lang future proof...
mas better vc lang kasi ung 7750 sa 6670
type ko lang magupgrade ng vc na low power consumption


Hahaha tinawag mo na naman ako ungas amf... wala lang laugh trip na naman ako... >:D >:D

Naisip ko lang.... KAsi naka 7660D na ako kaya yung 7750 di ko na maisip na upgrade.. Ah 7670 pala yung dating kong VC..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 11:07 AM
Hahaha tinawag mo na naman ako ungas amf... wala lang laugh trip na naman ako... >:D >:D

Naisip ko lang.... KAsi naka 7660D na ako kaya yung 7750 di ko na maisip na upgrade.. Ah 7670 pala yung dating kong VC..  ;D ;D

malayo yang 7660d sa 7750

PassMark - G3D Mark


Radeon HD 7660D  828
Radeon HD 7750    1,601

dont forget your hotswap sis
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 11:31 AM
malayo yang 7660d sa 7750

PassMark - G3D Mark


Radeon HD 7660D  828
Radeon HD 7750    1,601

dont forget your hotswap sis

Okay lang yan kasi madalang na ako mag games malay mo pag nag setup ako ng pang torrent na intel i3 lagyan ko ng HD7750 kasi pang games ko sa master bedroom.

Ou tinanggal ko na para sa iyo...  >:D >:D

Taas ng power consumption ng HD 7750 mo 22W in bluray watching and pero baba ng idle mode 5W ..

(http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7750/images/power_bluray.gif)

(http://tpucdn.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7750/images/power_idle.gif)

Source: http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7750/24.html (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/HD_7750/24.html)

Nabili mo ba yung WATT Meter? Mukhang gagawin ko na din pang DL ang HTPC ko baba ng power consumption sa net.

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power1G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power3G.png)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/Trinity/desktop/A105700/Power2G.png)

Source: http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/47257-amd-a10-5700/?page=8 (http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/47257-amd-a10-5700/?page=8)

Ang liit lang din naman tinaas ng power consumption ng AMD A10-5700 ko sa Intel i3-3225.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 11:52 AM
better sa power consumption
ung 7750 kesa sa 6670
nice nice nice...pwede akong mag 7750
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 11:56 AM
better sa power consumption
ung 7750 kesa sa 6670
nice nice nice...pwede akong mag 7750

Oi ungas hahaha wala ako sinabi na mas maganda ung 6670..  Magkano ba yung 7750? At teka super bagal na ba yung IGP ng A6 mo? Like mo pabagalin ko pa? >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Apr 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM
Oi ungas hahaha wala ako sinabi na mas maganda ung 6670..  Magkano ba yung 7750? At teka super bagal na ba yung IGP ng A6 mo? Like mo pabagalin ko pa? >:D >:D >:D
ok na ok naman ung igp ng a6 sis...
type ko lang magupgrade kung sakale...
pero baka ngayon lang to..at sa ssd ako mapunta - bahala na si batman
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 28, 2013 at 01:10 PM
ok na ok naman ung igp ng a6 sis...
type ko lang magupgrade kung sakale...
pero baka ngayon lang to..at sa ssd ako mapunta - bahala na si batman

Haha adik ka kasi mag SSD ka na lang..

Eto isa pang upgrade ko power ON and OFF ng mga internal HDD ko para magawa ko ng downloadr ang HTPC ko dual purpose na.  >:D >:D

(http://images.madeinchina.com/C2CDF28C2935C7F4E040007F010015A1/925/10195925_1/4-BAY-3-5-quot-Hard-Drive-Power-HD-OS-Switch-Orico_10195925_1.bak.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: crazyhog on Apr 29, 2013 at 12:15 AM
Haha adik ka kasi mag SSD ka na lang..

Eto isa pang upgrade ko power ON and OFF ng mga internal HDD ko para magawa ko ng downloadr ang HTPC ko dual purpose na.  >:D >:D

(http://images.madeinchina.com/C2CDF28C2935C7F4E040007F010015A1/925/10195925_1/4-BAY-3-5-quot-Hard-Drive-Power-HD-OS-Switch-Orico_10195925_1.bak.jpg)

seems nice. how much and anong pc accessories eto?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Apr 29, 2013 at 02:37 AM
thanks sir chito:D

Haha adik ka kasi mag SSD ka na lang..

Eto isa pang upgrade ko power ON and OFF ng mga internal HDD ko para magawa ko ng downloadr ang HTPC ko dual purpose na.  >:D >:D

(http://images.madeinchina.com/C2CDF28C2935C7F4E040007F010015A1/925/10195925_1/4-BAY-3-5-quot-Hard-Drive-Power-HD-OS-Switch-Orico_10195925_1.bak.jpg)

sir xrampage.. gumagana po ba yan ng maayos? nabangit niyo po noon.. palpak yang orico switch na yan?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 29, 2013 at 01:14 PM
thanks sir chito:D

sir xrampage.. gumagana po ba yan ng maayos? nabangit niyo po noon.. palpak yang orico switch na yan?

Nabanggit ko? Kailan? Alam ko nasabi ko lang di ko pa tested kasi nung una ko sinabi na plan ko ilagay. Never pa ako gumamit niyan ang ginamit ko lang is yung orico hot swap which is bang for the buck be careful lang sa pag tanggal kabit. Pero pag ang sata board mo is AHCI compatible this will work fine as when you off mawawala yung HDD sa my computer then pag ON mo babalik ulet. AHCI feature is for HOT SWAP kaya yang ON and OFF na device puwedeng puwede.  ;D ;D

seems nice. how much and anong pc accessories eto?

Around 2k sa TPC your mobo should support AHCI.  ;) ;)

(http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2007/05/04/opting_for_raid_level_migration/ahci.gif)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Apr 29, 2013 at 07:32 PM
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=78699.1880;wap2  <--- ito po sir xrampage.. do backread
 AC: [Edit]
bro xrampage..
may nakita ako switch.. for hd sa kabila para di sayang yung buhay ng hd niyo pwede niyo off.. kahit nakasaksak..
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20791909

ndy:

--- Quote from: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:35 AM ---meron FM1 haha...
asrock pro4-M haha..ung gamit ko lol

--- End quote ---

derick pareho pala tayo mobo:)  yan napalit ko sa asus f1a75 m pro ko ng nawarranty:(

xrampage:

--- Quote from: AC on Nov 26, 2012 at 02:12 PM ---bro xrampage..
may nakita ako switch.. for hd sa kabila para di sayang yung buhay ng hd niyo pwede niyo off.. kahit nakasaksak..
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20791909

--- End quote ---

Alam ko yan pag naka on na yung HTPC pag pinatay and open mo di na marerecognize. Have you tested already?  ^-^  ^-^ ^-^


yan po sir yung past conversation natin.. namention mo kasi maglalagay ka madaming hard disk.. then i posted for you the orico switch para masave buhay ng hds mo..
then sabi mo palpak yun... pag reboot di na niya na marecognize yung hard disk.. sana po dont suggest gadgets that we already know don't work well...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 29, 2013 at 07:42 PM
http://www.pinoydvd.com/index.php?topic=78699.1880;wap2  <--- ito po sir xrampage.. do backread
 AC: [Edit]
bro xrampage..
may nakita ako switch.. for hd sa kabila para di sayang yung buhay ng hd niyo pwede niyo off.. kahit nakasaksak..
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20791909

ndy:

--- Quote from: raider125jeigh on Nov 26, 2012 at 05:35 AM ---meron FM1 haha...
asrock pro4-M haha..ung gamit ko lol

--- End quote ---

derick pareho pala tayo mobo:)  yan napalit ko sa asus f1a75 m pro ko ng nawarranty:(

xrampage:

--- Quote from: AC on Nov 26, 2012 at 02:12 PM ---bro xrampage..
may nakita ako switch.. for hd sa kabila para di sayang yung buhay ng hd niyo pwede niyo off.. kahit nakasaksak..
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=20791909

--- End quote ---

Alam ko yan pag naka on na yung HTPC pag pinatay and open mo di na marerecognize. Have you tested already?  ^-^  ^-^ ^-^


yan po sir yung past conversation natin.. namention mo kasi maglalagay ka madaming hard disk.. then i posted for you the orico switch para masave buhay ng hds mo..
then sabi mo palpak yun... pag reboot di na niya na marecognize yung hard disk.. sana po dont suggest gadgets that we already know don't work well...

Wala ako makita dun sa post na nakalink na palpak na word. Maybe i said di mag work pero di palpak kasi nga like hot swap yan.  Pero basta may AHCI support yung mobo puwede yan parang ung Hot Swap feature kasi yan. Alam ko kasi dati di pa AHCI ang mobo na gamit ko kaya pag pinatay and binuhay mo ang HDD di niya recognise pero di ko pa talaga natest that time i yang switch.  ;) ;)

Isa pa pala sinabi ko dun upgrade ng HTPC ko di ko sinuggest na gamitin niyo din sa HTPC niyo as i check and im answering/talking to derick on my post.  ;D ;D

Saka sa conversation natin ikaw nag offer sa akin i just say it will not work kasi matagal ko na din iniisip yan pero di ko tinuloy kasi nga wala pa AHCI ang mga mobo that time na nag iisip ako kaya yun ang pumasok sa isip ko that time na nag post ka.  ;) ;)

Hayaan mo ill test it for you kung nag aalangan ka sa post ko.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Apr 29, 2013 at 08:19 PM
hehe.. no problem sir.. akala ko lang nagsusuggest ka ng.. sinabi mong hindi ok noon..

hehe.. actually during the time i suggested it to you.. bumili friend ko nun... kaya i knew about the item.. his mother board has ahci... and madalas nga pumalpak kaya.. dont bother buying..
we got the item from usb expert sa gilmore..

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Apr 29, 2013 at 08:50 PM
hehe.. no problem sir.. akala ko lang nagsusuggest ka ng.. sinabi mong hindi ok noon..

hehe.. actually during the time i suggested it to you.. bumili friend ko nun... kaya i knew about the item.. his mother board has ahci... and madalas nga pumalpak kaya.. dont bother buying..
we got the item from usb expert sa gilmore..

Yun lang baka naman may issue lang yung unit may puwede naman ako makuha pa its branded Lian Li BZ-H06 HDD 6 power switch.  ;D ;D

(http://titan-ice.co.za/images/product_CH-LABZH06.gif)

(http://media.materiel.net/live/112588.jpg)

(http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/0/9/9/2/6/webimg/634924791_tp.jpg)

Kaya lang naman ako gagamit kasi ung HTPC will be converted to torrent pc na din as i will be checking the wattage mamaya idownclock ko siya via catalyst.



Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on May 01, 2013 at 08:31 AM
just finished assembly of my new HTPC ITX case..

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/PC-Q27/Q27_Running_zps72288ef4.jpg)

for the short work log, visit [H]ard|Forum http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1759506 (http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1759506)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 03, 2013 at 10:46 AM
This make AMD VC more interesting most likely the HD 77xx series and up.

(http://www.amd.com/PublishingImages/Public/Graphic_Illustrations/WebBannerJPEG/Graphics-Core-Next-Banner_734W.jpg)

Quote

Available on select, high-performance AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series graphics products, the Graphics Core Next (GCN) Architecture is a radically new approach to the design of a consumer GPU.

Most importantly, it is the world's first 28nm GPU architecture, which enables AMD to fit up to 4.3 billion transistors-the most basic building blocks of a GPU-into approximately the same space once needed to fit 2.6 billion. Increasing transistor density by greater than 60% is more than just a feat of engineering-it's responsible for the world's most powerful and advanced GPU.1

Designed to push not only the boundaries of DirectX® 11 gaming, the GCN Architecture is also AMD's first design specifically engineered for general computing. Equipped with up to 32 compute units (2048 stream processors), each containing a scalar coprocessor, AMD's 28nm GPUs are more than capable of handling workloads-and programming languages-traditionally exclusive to the processor. Coupled with the dramatic rise of GPU-aware programming languages like C++ AMP and OpenCL™, the GCN Architecture is truly the right architecture for the right time.

Finally, it's important that great performance and great image quality doesn't come at the expense of a high power bill. Compared to the AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 Series, products with the GCN Architecture feature reduced power consumption in the "idle state," better known as the time when you're doing desktop work. But there's more, too.

AMD ZeroCore Power Technology

AMD ZeroCore Power Technology leverages AMD's leadership in notebook power efficiency to grant our desktop GPUs the ability to power down when your monitor is off, also known as the "long idle state."3

This is great for those times when you've stepped away from your PC to take a call, watch TV, or pop down to the store. Furthermore, AMD ZeroCore Power allows additional GPUs in an AMD CrossFireâ„¢ technology configuration to shut off when they're not in use-even the fan stops spinning!

An AMD-exclusive technology, AMD ZeroCore Power ensures that unused or idle GPUs are as efficient as possible.

Even the most hardcore gamer with an AMD CrossFireâ„¢ multi-gpu configuration benefits from AMD ZeroCore Power. Unused or idle GPUs are shut down until needed to conserve power.

Source: http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gcn/Pages/gcn-architecture.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gcn/Pages/gcn-architecture.aspx)

(http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1805/zerocore-3.jpg)

Derick mukhang maganda yung HD7750 then ill just disable my iGPU.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 03, 2013 at 10:52 AM
Yup ...magupgrade tayo 7750 hihihi...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 03, 2013 at 11:00 AM
Yup ...magupgrade tayo 7750 hihihi...

Oi ikaw muna tapos test ko.. hahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 03, 2013 at 12:21 PM
Oi ikaw muna tapos test ko.. hahaha
hehe...next payday hihihi....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 03, 2013 at 12:24 PM
hehe...next payday hihihi....

Tapos pahiram ako.. hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on May 03, 2013 at 12:48 PM
Quote
AMD ZeroCore Power Technology

AMD ZeroCore Power Technology leverages AMD's leadership in notebook power efficiency to grant our desktop GPUs the ability to power down when your monitor is off, also known as the "long idle state."3

This is great for those times when you've stepped away from your PC to take a call, watch TV, or pop down to the store. Furthermore, AMD ZeroCore Power allows additional GPUs in an AMD CrossFireâ„¢ technology configuration to shut off when they're not in use-even the fan stops spinning!

An AMD-exclusive technology, AMD ZeroCore Power ensures that unused or idle GPUs are as efficient as possible.

Even the most hardcore gamer with an AMD CrossFireâ„¢ multi-gpu configuration benefits from AMD ZeroCore Power. Unused or idle GPUs are shut down until needed to conserve power.

may ganyan din ang 7990 ko.  >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 03, 2013 at 12:59 PM
may ganyan din ang 7990 ko.  >:D
dehins kaya ng pocket ko ung 7990 hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 04, 2013 at 11:39 AM
One more i like with HTPC put the TV series on one folder drag or open folder with any player and you seat back all the episode will continue to play just seat and enjoy the series.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 04, 2013 at 09:49 PM
Tanong lang mga HTPC gurus and masters...
Bakit kaya nagkakaerror PowerDVD10 kapag playback ng bluray disc...

Updated naman videocard drivers ng laptop na gamit ko(HD4000 and GTX 660m)
Saka pasado cya dun sa Cyberlink BD and 3D Advisor test.

Thanks :)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8541/8706461707_4d473fcb34_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 04, 2013 at 10:00 PM
Tanong lang mga HTPC gurus and masters...
Bakit kaya nagkakaerror PowerDVD10 kapag playback ng bluray disc...

Updated naman videocard drivers ng laptop na gamit ko(HD4000 and GTX 660m)
Saka pasado cya dun sa Cyberlink BD and 3D Advisor test.

Thanks :)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8541/8706461707_4d473fcb34_z.jpg)

Ano version ng powerdvd mo? Sa tingin ko ang gamit na GPU is the nvidia kasi di naman puwede na both nvidia and HD4000 gagamitin niyan. Sa tingin ko may issue sa nvidia kaya amd fan boi ako pag dating sa HTPC never ako nag nvidia. Puwede mo ba gamitin ung HD4000 disable the nvidia? Have your try Arcsoft TMT? Try other version of powerdvd try hanggang sa maayos mo yan ang kagandahan sa htpc tweak tweak unless na ayaw mo mag tweak plug and play lang..  ;D ;D ;D

May malapit naman sa iyo na puwede kumalikot ng HTPC mo baka pag nag prisinta ako baka masira ko pa yan kasi yan ata yung sinsabi nila nila na pinabagal ko.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 04, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Ano version ng powerdvd mo? Sa tingin ko ang gamit na GPU is the nvidia kasi di naman puwede na both nvidia and HD4000 gagamitin niyan. Sa tingin ko may issue sa nvidia kaya amd fan boi ako pag dating sa HTPC never ako nag nvidia. Puwede mo ba gamitin ung HD4000 disable the nvidia? Have your try Arcsoft TMT? Try other version of powerdvd try hanggang sa maayos mo yan ang kagandahan sa htpc tweak tweak unless na ayaw mo mag tweak plug and play lang..  ;D ;D ;D

May malapit naman sa iyo na puwede kumalikot ng HTPC mo baka pag nag prisinta ako baka masira ko pa yan kasi yan ata yung sinsabi nila nila na pinabagal ko.  >:D >:D

Naku tinira mo nanaman sarili mo...
Papa-psychiatrist ka kita eh, hehehe ;D

PowerDVD10 gamit ko. Try ko kasi yung bundled dun sa ASUS bluray ROM.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 04, 2013 at 10:45 PM
Naku tinira mo nanaman sarili mo...
Papa-psychiatrist ka kita eh, hehehe ;D

PowerDVD10 gamit ko. Try ko kasi yung bundled dun sa ASUS bluray ROM.

Haha ganun talaga itawag mo na ako sa mandaluyong loob unahan ko na lang baka yariin pa ako na bumagal yan atleast ako tumira sa sarili ko.  ;D ;D Madami na kasi may problema sa old version na powerdvd sa mga new bluray kaya may new version na kaya baka nag kakaissue yan. Try mo new version sister. YGPM for the new power dvd and TMT. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 04, 2013 at 10:49 PM
Haha ganun talaga itawag mo na ako sa mandaluyong loob unahan ko na lang baka yariin pa ako na bumagal yan atleast ako tumira sa sarili ko.  ;D ;D Madami na kasi may problema sa old version na powerdvd sa mga new bluray kaya may new version na kaya baka nag kakaissue yan. Try mo new version sister. YGPM for the new power dvd and TMT. >:D >:D >:D


Cge sis try ko install yung binigay mo sakin dati na PowerDVD ;)

Salamas!!! :-*
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 05, 2013 at 12:05 AM
Cge sis try ko install yung binigay mo sakin dati na PowerDVD ;)

Salamas!!! :-*
try mo rin yung powerdvd ni derick sa nmt nya ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 05, 2013 at 05:56 AM
PowerDVD10 gamit ko. Try ko kasi yung bundled dun sa ASUS bluray ROM.

PowerDVD 10 has issues with Windows 8. PowerDVD 12 and 13 are Windows 8 certified, whilst PowerDVD 11 also works fine in my experience (though it's not guaranteed to work).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 05, 2013 at 07:38 AM
try mo rin yung powerdvd ni derick sa nmt nya ;)


Powerdvd on louie's NMT  >:D >:D >:D hahaha

PowerDVD 10 has issues with Windows 8. PowerDVD 12 and 13 are Windows 8 certified, whilst PowerDVD 11 also works fine in my experience (though it's not guaranteed to work).

Ayan certified na ni ivan na may issue nga ang version ng powerdvd mo and windows 8.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 05, 2013 at 09:18 AM
try mo rin yung powerdvd ni derick sa nmt nya ;)

walang issue un powerdvd ko sa nmt ko...


louela - dapat may PowerDVD 12 and TMT ka lage na nakainstall and splash pro
para kapag ayaw sa isang software talon agad sa kabila pansalo hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 06, 2013 at 05:42 PM
walang issue un powerdvd ko sa nmt ko...


louela - dapat may PowerDVD 12 and TMT ka lage na nakainstall and splash pro
para kapag ayaw sa isang software talon agad sa kabila pansalo hehe

TMT gumana na!!! Yahoo!!!
Nakakanood na ko sa laptop ni misis ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 06, 2013 at 06:01 PM
TMT gumana na!!! Yahoo!!!
Nakakanood na ko sa laptop ni misis ;D
Nice anu laptop ni misis?apple? Ganda nyan
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 06, 2013 at 06:48 PM
Nice anu laptop ni misis?apple? Ganda nyan

Hindi sis. Lenovo Y580, yung unang version.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on May 06, 2013 at 06:51 PM
Hindi sis. Lenovo Y580, yung unang version.

kayang mag-games ng laptop na yan! ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 06, 2013 at 06:58 PM
kayang mag-games ng laptop na yan! ;)

Puwede din mag games sa laptop ko FB games nga lang wahahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 06, 2013 at 07:14 PM
kayang mag-games ng laptop na yan! ;)

Puwede din mag games sa laptop ko FB games nga lang wahahaha

Actually naggegames nga ako kagabi... Candy Crush nga lang, hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 06, 2013 at 07:18 PM
Actually naggegames nga ako kagabi... Candy Crush nga lang, hehehe


Si misis addict jan napagalitan pa ako once nung tinawag ko siya ayun bat ko daw tinawag tuloy di niya naabot ung score. haha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 06, 2013 at 09:24 PM
Anung tips and tricks nyo sa candy crush haha..ot tayo hihihi....     Anung latest na xmbc version?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 06, 2013 at 10:27 PM
TMT gumana na!!! Yahoo!!!
Nakakanood na ko sa laptop ni misis ;D
pansin ko lang pag di gumana powerdvd automatic sa TMT working.  :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 06, 2013 at 10:32 PM

pansin ko lang pag di gumana powerdvd automatic sa TMT working.  :D

Even with TMT pag di puwede sa PDV puwede same with corel windvd.  >:D >:D

I just got the bluray HQV to tst my HTPC PQ.

(http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2007/06/08/avivo_vs_purevideo_hd/avsp_hqvbench.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 07, 2013 at 09:20 AM
pansin ko lang pag di gumana powerdvd automatic sa TMT working.  :D

Eh di rekta na sa TMT para wala ng patesting testing pa. Meron bang ibang BD ISO na pumalya sa TMT?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 09:28 AM
Eh di rekta na sa TMT para wala ng patesting testing pa. Meron bang ibang BD ISO na pumalya sa TMT?

meron din.. pero sa experience ko di naman ganun kadami may issue sa powerdvd.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2013 at 09:44 AM
Eh di rekta na sa TMT para wala ng patesting testing pa. Meron bang ibang BD ISO na pumalya sa TMT?
meron....hihihihihi.....

may bdmv din na pumapalya...

kaya better to have tmt and pdvd
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 09:45 AM
meron....hihihihihi.....

may bdmv din na pumapalya...

kaya better to have tmt and pdvd

Pag na iso ko na lahat try ko sa powerdvd lahat ng collection ko...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2013 at 09:50 AM
Pag na iso ko na lahat try ko sa powerdvd lahat ng collection ko...

anu gamit mo? 12 ?
may iba din na ayaw pero hindi na ako nagtroubleshoot diretso tmt working

ang problema ko sa TMT ung umalon na picture...
huhuhu.....baket kaya...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 09:54 AM
anu gamit mo? 12 ?
may iba din na ayaw pero hindi na ako nagtroubleshoot diretso tmt working

ang problema ko sa TMT ung umalon na picture...
huhuhu.....baket kaya...


Haha meron din sa akin yan kaya nga powerdvd na ako or corel windvd so far sa corel lahat ng isalpak ko na bluray folder and iso no issue.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2013 at 10:04 AM
Haha meron din sa akin yan kaya nga powerdvd na ako or corel windvd so far sa corel lahat ng isalpak ko na bluray folder and iso no issue.

ah meron din sayo haha....langya...kala ko ako lang may issue na ALON MODE
may corel software dun sa ext mo nacopy ko ata...try ko install later..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 07, 2013 at 10:28 AM
ah meron din sayo haha....langya...kala ko ako lang may issue na ALON MODE
may corel software dun sa ext mo nacopy ko ata...try ko install later..

Haha meron din sa akin yan kaya nga powerdvd na ako or corel windvd so far sa corel lahat ng isalpak ko na bluray folder and iso no issue.

Mga sis ano bang software ang pang rip ng bluray disc to BDMV folder?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 10:40 AM
ah meron din sayo haha....langya...kala ko ako lang may issue na ALON MODE
may corel software dun sa ext mo nacopy ko ata...try ko install later..

Yung pabilog na alon? Sa plasma kitang kita ko siya pero sa PJ di ko siya nakikita nagiging ghost protocol as in di ko halata pag play na movie.  >:D >:D

Mga sis ano bang software ang pang rip ng bluray disc to BDMV folder?

Try DVDFab Bluray ripper.  ;D ;D

http://www.dvdfab.com/blu-ray-ripper.htm (http://www.dvdfab.com/blu-ray-ripper.htm)

Bat ka pa mag rip ng bluray disc mo eh may oppo ka naman to play the bluray disc.  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2013 at 10:43 AM
Mga sis ano bang software ang pang rip ng bluray disc to BDMV folder?

calling
elmira.....

ungas kaya nya iripped para saten haha...
wag ka mangealam ng trip ni louela
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 10:47 AM
calling
elmira.....

ungas kaya nya iripped para saten haha...
wag ka mangealam ng trip ni louela

Haha ganun ba oks sabi mo eh. Nag post na ako ng software na gagamitin niya. Buti pa PS3 may pang laban na ang DVDFab sa audio na cinavia pero need mo muna burn sa bluray disc. >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 07, 2013 at 10:53 AM
Bwahahaha...
Korek, para sa inyo mga sis...
Yung mga Demo Disc ririp naten ;D

Diba pwede yung copy yung contents nung disc then paste na lang sa isang folder? ^-^
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 10:55 AM
Bwahahaha...
Korek, para sa inyo mga sis...
Yung mga Demo Disc ririp naten ;D

Diba pwede yung copy yung contents nung disc then paste na lang sa isang folder? ^-^

Hindi puwede copy paste kasi may protection yan so pag copy mo di mawawal ayung protection.

Gagawa pala ako demo disc simulan ko sa off ko lalagay ko lahat ng mga puwede so malamang mas malaki pa sa BD50.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 09:16 PM
Derick may napansin ako na yung issue sa alon na sinasabi mo and na observe ko sa encode nakikita ko siya pero sa bluray hindi siya nakikita.  Experience ko lang yan..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 07, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Derick may napansin ako na yung issue sa alon na sinasabi mo and na observe ko sa encode nakikita ko siya pero sa bluray hindi siya nakikita.  Experience ko lang yan..
ako kasama bluray ....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 07, 2013 at 11:05 PM
ako kasama bluray ....

Sa akin hindi naman kasi tweak na yung plasma ang PJ ko.. hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 07, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Eh di rekta na sa TMT para wala ng patesting testing pa. Meron bang ibang BD ISO na pumalya sa TMT?
wala pa sa akin so far. 


Bwahahaha...
Korek, para sa inyo mga sis...
Yung mga Demo Disc ririp naten ;D

Diba pwede yung copy yung contents nung disc then paste na lang sa isang folder? ^-^
tanong mo kay bro nerveblocker bro kung ano gamit nya :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 07, 2013 at 11:29 PM
Hindi puwede copy paste kasi may protection yan so pag copy mo di mawawal ayung protection.

Gagawa pala ako demo disc simulan ko sa off ko lalagay ko lahat ng mga puwede so malamang mas malaki pa sa BD50.  >:D >:D
encode mo para kaya ng P4 ko ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 10, 2013 at 09:22 PM
Just installed DVDFab media player some features that i got to test below.

- It can play ISO without mounting the bluray to virtual bluray drive
- It has two menu quick and simple mode and full navigation mode.
- Cinavia Free
- In-time decryption to newly released movies
- Drag and drop BDMV folder to play
- Can play 3D bluray to 2D if your TV does not support 3D
- Region code free player (Can change region code anytime


(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/dvdfab.png)

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/dvdfab1.png)

Now i have a player that can play without worrying for Cinavia protection issue.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 10, 2013 at 09:26 PM
Sa akin hindi naman kasi tweak na yung plasma ang PJ ko.. hehe
ayan ka nananaman sa tweak hahaha...lageng natatangal ung T eh...hihihihi...     Ganda ata yang dvdfab
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 10, 2013 at 09:42 PM
ayan ka nananaman sa tweak hahaha...lageng natatangal ung T eh...hihihihi...     Ganda ata yang dvdfab

Bahala ka sa buhay mo mag NMT ka na lang forever... Ikaw naman weak..  >:D >:D

Pag NMT wala ka iisip click and play no tweaking..  >:D >:D

Memory and CPU usage of 4 bluray players i use...

DVDFab
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/dvdfab-1.png)

TMT
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/tmt.png)

PowerDVD
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/pdvd-1.png)

WindDVD
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/windvd.png)

Yung DVDFab mas mabilis pa mag load kesa sa powerdvd and TMT.  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 10, 2013 at 10:10 PM
Just installed DVDFab media player some features that i got to test below.

- It can play ISO without mounting the bluray to virtual bluray drive
- It has two menu quick and simple mode and full navigation mode.
- Cinavia Free
- In-time decryption to newly released movies
- Drag and drop BDMV folder to play
- Can play 3D bluray to 2D if your TV does not support 3D
- Region code free player (Can change region code anytime

Now i have a player that can play without worrying for Cinavia protection issue.  >:D >:D

I think the full navigation mode you have to pay. Pero yung simple lang free.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 10, 2013 at 10:12 PM
I think the full navigation mode you have to pay. Pero yung simple lang free.

Yes bro pero ganda din ng DVDFab sana magkaron sila for Bluray 3D maganda kasi cinavia free siya.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 11, 2013 at 07:59 AM
Doc Mel mukhang kasama din sa free yung full BD menu mamaya try ko DL nung free para macheck. Maganda ito pag yung full menu meron sa free na player.  >:D >:D

Comparison of the Free and paid DVDFab Player.  ;D ;D
(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/dvdfab-2.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on May 11, 2013 at 12:07 PM
Here's an interesting HTPC case from Lian-Li. This would look cool in a themed HT room. Or the HTPC gallery. If i have $300 to burn I would definitely get one.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-ck101-mini-itx-locomotive-review,3414.html
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 11, 2013 at 04:18 PM
Yes bro pero ganda din ng DVDFab sana magkaron sila for Bluray 3D maganda kasi cinavia free siya.  >:D >:D

As far as I remember, when I was using it, parang ang PQ same as the internal player of xbmc. Pa feedback naman bro elms compared to PowerDVD or Splash PRO.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 11, 2013 at 06:17 PM
As far as I remember, when I was using it, parang ang PQ same as the internal player of xbmc. Pa feedback naman bro elms compared to PowerDVD or Splash PRO.

Sige manonood pa naman ako ng nikita now pero kahapon nung compare ko sa 4 bluray player same PQ din new version gamit ko. YGPM pala... >:D >:D >:D

Ang gaan pa sa memory and CPU.  ;D ;D

Ang wala lang is the upscaling capability.  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 11, 2013 at 09:23 PM
Doc mel eto pala settings ng new version ng dvdfab media player sa full navigation and quick and simple mode para default na siya.  >:D >:D

(http://i557.photobucket.com/albums/ss15/elmer_manalili/dvdfab-3.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 11, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Doc mel eto pala settings ng new version ng dvdfab media player sa full navigation and quick and simple mode para default na siya.  >:D >:D

Exciting! BTW, if you are playing BDs, di na kelangan ng AnyDVD HD to remove region coding?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 08:33 AM
Exciting! BTW, if you are playing BDs, di na kelangan ng AnyDVD HD to remove region coding?

Ou di na need kasi you can change the region coding anytime sa dvdfab even cinavia protection bypass. BTW my software ako na pang region changer para kahit ano region ng play mo powerdvd, TMT and windvd puwede ka mag change ng region sa 3 na bluray player. YGPM again..  >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 12, 2013 at 01:15 PM
Nabasa ko na bro! You d' ultimate GURU!  ;) Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 01:18 PM
Nabasa ko na bro! You d' ultimate GURU!  ;) Thanks!


Haha ultimate guru isa lang akong HTPC fan boi.  >:D >:D

Taga san ka pala ng mabisita ka namin..  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 12, 2013 at 02:24 PM
Haha ultimate guru isa lang akong HTPC fan boi.  >:D >:D

Taga san ka pala ng mabisita ka namin..  ;) ;)
patay! delikado yan doc... babagal ang htpc pag hinawakan ni elmer. boot time na 20sec nababagalan yan..wag ka pumayag ^-^
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 02:30 PM
patay! delikado yan doc... babagal ang htpc pag hinawakan ni elmer. boot time na 20sec nababagalan yan..wag ka pumayag ^-^

Haha patay ka sa akin pag nag kita tayo.. Ikaw iboboot ko hahaha...  >:D >:D

Hoy hindi ako ang nababagalan sa pag boot..  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on May 12, 2013 at 08:33 PM
I've been trying to find answers but came up with nothing that will help. so I hope someone can point me to the thread or help me out.

I have a Yamaha 671 that i want to connect my pc via HDMI. right now i'm using PS3 and the pc as a media server because when i plug in the pc to the receiver there is no video. (I used to plug it directly to the TV then use analog connections to the old receiver) I know that the cable is fine because when i connect directly to the TV it's fine. But when using the receiver is just black. Even the yamaha gui is not showing. I'm using an old i5-760 with ATI 5850.

thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 12, 2013 at 08:53 PM
I've been trying to find answers but came up with nothing that will help. so I hope someone can point me to the thread or help me out.

I have a Yamaha 671 that i want to connect my pc via HDMI. right now i'm using PS3 and the pc as a media server because when i plug in the pc to the receiver there is no video. (I used to plug it directly to the TV then use analog connections to the old receiver) I know that the cable is fine because when i connect directly to the TV it's fine. But when using the receiver is just black. Even the yamaha gui is not showing. I'm using an old i5-760 with ATI 5850.

thanks.

Have you tested connecting the pc to the TV? Sa tingin mo may problema yamaha mo.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on May 12, 2013 at 09:38 PM
Have you tested connecting the pc to the TV? Sa tingin mo may problema yamaha mo.

Ok na sir. It's working now. It was a user error. (engot on my part) di ko pala na na pili ang tv as monitor. hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: khazkhaz on May 13, 2013 at 06:17 PM
Anyone here having trouble using a receiver with their HTPC?

When I hook up my HTPC to my TV it gets detected just fine. But when I hook up my TV to receiver then to the HTPC the TV doesn't get detected. I've checked all inputs and checked all cables and they're all sound. I hope you guys can help me.

Here's my setup.
GPU: GTX 550Ti
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V373
TV: Sony TV (forgot the model)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 13, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Anyone here having trouble using a receiver with their HTPC?

When I hook up my HTPC to my TV it gets detected just fine. But when I hook up my TV to receiver then to the HTPC the TV doesn't get detected. I've checked all inputs and checked all cables and they're all sound. I hope you guys can help me.

Here's my setup.
GPU: GTX 550Ti
Receiver: Yamaha RX-V373
TV: Sony TV (forgot the model)

Have you check if you choose the right input ie hdmi 1 since dun nakalagay ung TV mo.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: khazkhaz on May 14, 2013 at 07:51 AM
Have you check if you choose the right input ie hdmi 1 since dun nakalagay ung TV mo.

Yup. Wala pa rin.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 14, 2013 at 08:46 AM
Yup. Wala pa rin.

Did you attach your TV to the HDMI Out of the receiver and the HTPC to one of the HDMI inputs of your receiver? Did you try using another source like a DVD/BD player or NMT to your receiver just to check if the HDMI inputs work?

Note: make sure the TV and the receiver are turned on first (the TV on the right input source like HDMI 1 and the receiver also on the right HDMI source) before turning on your HTPC.
Title: Undervolting / Underclocking
Post by: aRujoN on May 14, 2013 at 01:16 PM
Can any of u guys here share a guide/walkthru on how to properly undervolt/underclock a cpu?? I have an old pentium4 3.06ht with a D865GSA mobo layin around and i plan to turn this into a torrent rig with a relatively lower power consumption than at stock.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: khazkhaz on May 14, 2013 at 02:47 PM
Did you attach your TV to the HDMI Out of the receiver and the HTPC to one of the HDMI inputs of your receiver? Did you try using another source like a DVD/BD player or NMT to your receiver just to check if the HDMI inputs work?

Note: make sure the TV and the receiver are turned on first (the TV on the right input source like HDMI 1 and the receiver also on the right HDMI source) before turning on your HTPC.

Yup. All my devices hooked up work fine. Only the HTPC doesn't. I've swapped inputs with each other as well but no dice.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 14, 2013 at 09:01 PM
Yup. All my devices hooked up work fine. Only the HTPC doesn't. I've swapped inputs with each other as well but no dice.

YUng motherboard mo ba may onboard na HDMI? If yes pa try naman nung onboard HDMI co check if video card issue.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: khazkhaz on May 15, 2013 at 01:03 PM
YUng motherboard mo ba may onboard na HDMI? If yes pa try naman nung onboard HDMI co check if video card issue.

Gumagana sya pag nakadirekta sa TV. Pag nakakabit lang sa receiver ayaw marecognise ang TV.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on May 15, 2013 at 01:23 PM
hope it helps..htpc hdmi > hmdi in receiver BD > receiver out hdmi > tv hdmi in...does you tv have 2 hdmi?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 15, 2013 at 02:16 PM
Can any of u guys here share a guide/walkthru on how to properly undervolt/underclock a cpu?? I have an old pentium4 3.06ht with a D865GSA mobo layin around and i plan to turn this into a torrent rig with a relatively lower power consumption than at stock.

Your motherboard is not friendly to such alterations. It has to be modified to support this. It'd be a lot simpler to just run it in stock form.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: aRujoN on May 15, 2013 at 03:21 PM
Your motherboard is not friendly to such alterations. It has to be modified to support this. It'd be a lot simpler to just run it in stock form.

Thanks for the reply Stagea :)
One quick question tho, when u say "it has to be modified to support this" do u mean as in a physical modification or modifying something in the bios settings?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 15, 2013 at 08:50 PM
update driver lang yan ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 15, 2013 at 09:42 PM
Thanks for the reply Stagea :)
One quick question tho, when u say "it has to be modified to support this" do u mean as in a physical modification or modifying something in the bios settings?

Either physical mod or palit BIOS. Both are risky for a first timer.

Check mo din baka iba na yung latest BIOS flash nya at may features na. Pero yung mga lumang BIOS ng board model mo wala talagang tweaking options.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: intellution on May 15, 2013 at 10:48 PM
Guys another noob question...whats the common o/s do you install on your htpc rig? Windows 7? 8? Vista? Does 32 or 64 bit matter on an htpc? Plan to do some light gaming as well on the htpc
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 15, 2013 at 11:15 PM
Guys another noob question...whats the common o/s do you install on your htpc rig? Windows 7? 8? Vista? Does 32 or 64 bit matter on an htpc? Plan to do some light gaming as well on the htpc
windows 7 - 64bit


hmmMmm..i have a new case...pwedeng bumuo ulit ng simple rig
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on May 16, 2013 at 12:24 AM
Guys another noob question...whats the common o/s do you install on your htpc rig? Windows 7? 8? Vista? Does 32 or 64 bit matter on an htpc? Plan to do some light gaming as well on the htpc

definitely Windows 7 64bit! (especially if you plan to put 4GB or more memory)  ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 16, 2013 at 07:16 AM
Windows 8 64-bit for me.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: intellution on May 16, 2013 at 08:27 AM
Thanks again guys for the quick reply. Checked the prices of win7 pro 64 nasa 6k+ vs win8 oem 64 nasa 4k+, is it correct mas mahal ang win7? Di rin pala biro mag setup ng htpc in terms of price especially if you go the mini itx route
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 16, 2013 at 08:33 AM
For me win7 pro than win 8 oem.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 16, 2013 at 10:05 AM
linux  ^-^
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on May 16, 2013 at 10:23 AM
Thanks again guys for the quick reply. Checked the prices of win7 pro 64 nasa 6k+ vs win8 oem 64 nasa 4k+, is it correct mas mahal ang win7? Di rin pala biro mag setup ng htpc in terms of price especially if you go the mini itx route

pwede naman pir@ta hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: aRujoN on May 16, 2013 at 10:28 AM
Thanks for the inputs Stagea and joko11  :)
will look for more info on the mobo..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rhodem24 on May 16, 2013 at 11:04 AM
Mga sir, I'm currently using my HD4850 (HDMI > HDMI In sa receiver) sa HTPC ko.

I'm aware that HD4*** doesn't support DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD. Pag may source akong DTS-HD MA, DTS lang po ba yung ma decode nya?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: joko11 on May 16, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Mga sir, I'm currently using my HD4850 (HDMI > HDMI In sa receiver) sa HTPC ko.

I'm aware that HD4*** doesn't support DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD. Pag may source akong DTS-HD MA, DTS lang po ba yung ma decode nya?

Thanks.
opo
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on May 16, 2013 at 03:05 PM
Mga sir, I'm currently using my HD4850 (HDMI > HDMI In sa receiver) sa HTPC ko.

I'm aware that HD4*** doesn't support DTS-HD MA / Dolby TrueHD. Pag may source akong DTS-HD MA, DTS lang po ba yung ma decode nya?

Thanks.

ganun ba? I plan pa naman to use my i5-2500k for HTPC.  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 16, 2013 at 03:24 PM
ganun ba? I plan pa naman to use my i5-2500k for HTPC.  :-\

Search google may issue nga sa audio ang HD3000 ng i5-2500K with HD3000 GPU.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 27, 2013 at 07:07 AM
Is a laptop ok for 24/7 downloading?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on May 27, 2013 at 08:54 AM
Hi Mel!
If it doesn't get too hot.  I cleaned the laptops of my family last March upon their arrival in Tokyo. First thing I noticed was that their laptops were getting unusually hotter than before.  Turned out na punong-puno ng accumulated dust yung cooling fans and exhaust kaya blocked yung hot air flow palabas.

Also, I would suggest that you store the torrents file directly to a more robust externally connected 3.5" HDD instead of the laptop's 2.5" HDD if you intend to operate 24/7.

Pero diba via seed box ka na?  Good system!  Hehehe

Regards!

Is a laptop ok for 24/7 downloading?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 27, 2013 at 12:22 PM
Is a laptop ok for 24/7 downloading?

Di ba di ka naman naka 24/7 kasi may seedbox ka na? :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 27, 2013 at 01:17 PM
Hi Mel!
If it doesn't get too hot.  I cleaned the laptops of my family last March upon their arrival in Tokyo. First thing I noticed was that their laptops were getting unusually hotter than before.  Turned out na punong-puno ng accumulated dust yung cooling fans and exhaust kaya blocked yung hot air flow palabas.

Also, I would suggest that you store the torrents file directly to a more robust externally connected 3.5" HDD instead of the laptop's 2.5" HDD if you intend to operate 24/7.

Pero diba via seed box ka na?  Good system!  Hehehe

Regards!


Thanks Alan-san for the reply. I'm just looking at my options.  Was just thinking of getting a 2nd hand atom based netbook for that purpose lang. My current desktop rates at 45watts baka pwede pa lower consumption.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 27, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Di ba di ka naman naka 24/7 kasi may seedbox ka na? :)

Bro still need to transfer files from seedbox to home via http which is still limited by my isp plan. Good thing about having the seedbox aside from keeping a good ratio is that I can transfer my files from seedbox at the maximum speed that my ISP plan can handle i.e. 600-620 kb/s with my 5MBPS plan. Before throttled talaga ang speeds ko (250-300 kb/s) during the day and intermittent pa ang connection that's why I don't do 24/7 downloading.  Naiinis lang ako.

Sarap lang kasi ng seedbox sa bilis ng speed nya maski yung mga 1 seeder lang na files nadodownload parin.  Tapos transfer nalang kaagad.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 27, 2013 at 01:38 PM
Bro still need to transfer files from seedbox to home via http which is still limited by my isp plan. Good thing about having the seedbox aside from keeping a good ratio is that I can transfer my files from seedbox at the maximum speed that my ISP plan can handle i.e. 600-620 kb/s with my 5MBPS plan. Before throttled talaga ang speeds ko (250-300 kb/s) during the day and intermittent pa ang connection that's why I don't do 24/7 downloading.  Naiinis lang ako.

Sarap lang kasi ng seedbox sa bilis ng speed nya maski yung mga 1 seeder lang na files nadodownload parin.  Tapos transfer nalang kaagad.

Tiantamad pa ako mag seedbox saka okay pa naman ang mga accts ko sa dami hahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Clondalkin on May 27, 2013 at 01:46 PM
That's about 1.08kWH daily or 32kWH per month - perhaps between 400 to 500 Pesos depende sa Meralco charges on your consumption bracket.  Baka hindi mo pa mabawi ang acquisition cost ng netbook.  So mas cost effective if you just turn off your aircon for a few hours, or, reduce your dine-out expenses by 500 in a month (500 is practically just one nice meal for one person I believe), OR, just one additional Consultation Fee.  Hehehe.

I'd suggest that you keep your DL rig as is, and spend the netbook budget on blank HDDs.   ;D



Thanks Alan-san for the reply. I'm just looking at my options.  Was just thinking of getting a 2nd hand atom based netbook for that purpose lang. My current desktop rates at 45watts baka pwede pa lower consumption.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 27, 2013 at 03:42 PM
That's about 1.08kWH daily or 32kWH per month - perhaps between 400 to 500 Pesos depende sa Meralco charges on your consumption bracket.  Baka hindi mo pa mabawi ang acquisition cost ng netbook.  So mas cost effective if you just turn off your aircon for a few hours, or, reduce your dine-out expenses by 500 in a month (500 is practically just one nice meal for one person I believe), OR, just one additional Consultation Fee.  Hehehe.

I'd suggest that you keep your DL rig as is, and spend the netbook budget on blank HDDs.   ;D




Galing mo bro in computing the electricity cost. I also computed it using the Meralco app and lumabas P450/month considering I will be downloading 24/7. Guess by next month I'll be minimizing my downloading hours kasi malamang wala nako madownload. Haha!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 29, 2013 at 12:34 PM
Is a laptop ok for 24/7 downloading?

Set the PC to power saving then set cooling mode to passive. If you like tweaking, managing components manually will give you more granularity. Reducing the machine's power consumption also reduces system temp, fan speed/duty cycle, and current load on components, which in turn tend to prolong the life of components. Low fan speeds/duty cycles also minimize noise emission and dust deposits.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 29, 2013 at 03:19 PM
Set the PC to power saving then set cooling mode to passive. If you like tweaking, managing components manually will give you more granularity. Reducing the machine's power consumption also reduces system temp, fan speed/duty cycle, and current load on components, which in turn tend to prolong the life of components. Low fan speeds/duty cycles also minimize noise emission and dust deposits.

Thanks master Ivan for the input.  I will take that into account.  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 29, 2013 at 09:58 PM
Thanks master Ivan for the input.  I will take that into account.  :)

You're welcome, Master Doc Nerveblocker. :) I remember you have an e350-based machine. Some Brazos Tweaker magic may help that thing, if you have the time.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 30, 2013 at 09:17 AM
I tried laptop power saving mode in my desktop and it reduced power consumption by 4-5watts. Not as significant as I expected. I'm now running at 40-41watts with the power saving mode.

Specs: AMD X2 proc, Nvidia GT520
OS: Linux Mint

Does the dedicated VC have an effect on the overall power consumption in downloading mode?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on May 30, 2013 at 09:54 AM
Power Consumption in my E-350 machine w/ HD6450 GPU--
OS: Windows 7 64bit

Balanced Mode: 40-41watts
Powersaving Mode: 37-38watts
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on May 30, 2013 at 10:09 AM
I tried laptop power saving mode in my desktop and it reduced power consumption by 4-5watts. Not as significant as I expected. I'm now running at 40-41watts with the power saving mode.

Specs: AMD X2 proc, Nvidia GT520
OS: Linux Mint

Does the dedicated VC have an effect on the overall power consumption in downloading mode?

yes may effect yan additional power consumption unless na gumamit ka ng AMD HD77xx and up series na VC with AMD Zerocore power feature.

More about the new technology of AMD support HD77xx series and up.

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Available on select, high-performance AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series graphics products, the Graphics Core Next (GCN) Architecture is a radically new approach to the design of a consumer GPU.

Most importantly, it is the world's first 28nm GPU architecture, which enables AMD to fit up to 4.3 billion transistors-the most basic building blocks of a GPU-into approximately the same space once needed to fit 2.6 billion. Increasing transistor density by greater than 60% is more than just a feat of engineering-it's responsible for the world's most powerful and advanced GPU.1

Designed to push not only the boundaries of DirectX® 11 gaming, the GCN Architecture is also AMD's first design specifically engineered for general computing. Equipped with up to 32 compute units (2048 stream processors), each containing a scalar coprocessor, AMD's 28nm GPUs are more than capable of handling workloads-and programming languages-traditionally exclusive to the processor. Coupled with the dramatic rise of GPU-aware programming languages like C++ AMP and OpenCL™, the GCN Architecture is truly the right architecture for the right time.

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Efficiency

Click to enlarge
Finally, it's important that great performance and great image quality doesn't come at the expense of a high power bill. Compared to the AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 Series, products with the GCN Architecture feature reduced power consumption in the "idle state," better known as the time when you're doing desktop work. But there's more, too.

AMD ZeroCore Power Technology
AMD ZeroCore Power Technology leverages AMD's leadership in notebook power efficiency to grant our desktop GPUs the ability to power down when your monitor is off, also known as the "long idle state."3


Click to enlarge This is great for those times when you've stepped away from your PC to take a call, watch TV, or pop down to the store. Furthermore, AMD ZeroCore Power allows additional GPUs in an AMD CrossFire™ technology configuration to shut off when they're not in use-even the fan stops spinning!
An AMD-exclusive technology, AMD ZeroCore Power ensures that unused or idle GPUs are as efficient as possible.

Even the most hardcore gamer with an AMD CrossFire™ multi-gpu configuration benefits from AMD ZeroCore Power. Unused or idle GPUs are shut down until needed to conserve power.

Source: http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gcn/Pages/gcn-architecture.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gcn/Pages/gcn-architecture.aspx)

(http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1805/zerocore-3.jpg)

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AMD has been working on getting the long idle power down for years and it looks like ZeroCore Power Technology is about as good as it gets.  AMD says the Radeon HD 7970 uses less than 3 Watts in this long idle power state. It has to use some power in order to detect when you go to use the PC again.

Source: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1805/13/ (http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1805/13/)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 31, 2013 at 06:36 PM
Power Consumption in my E-350 machine w/ HD6450 GPU--
OS: Windows 7 64bit

Balanced Mode: 40-41watts
Powersaving Mode: 37-38watts

Aside from the video adapter taking 10 or so watts at idle, you might want to try reducing the APU's consumption by using phctool. Other components can also be undervolted, clock-gated or taken to deeper states depending on the tools that you have.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: hatcherista on Jun 03, 2013 at 05:35 PM
Good pm guys! patulong lang sana

currently im using my laptop as an htpc connected to samsung plasma via hdmi (just trying out xbmc and htpc feel before i invest on a rig).

I was enjoying myself for quite sometime na kaso recently i encountered a nuisance. Nagsstutter ng konti yung video (every 30 sec) pag nagplay ako ng HD movies and series. At first bearable pa, pero ngayon, mejo nakakahilo na.

Ang changes lang naman na ginawa ko, I updated the NVIDIA driver to 320.18 tapos nakastore na files ko sa 3TB Seagate. Ever since nagpalit ako ng external at nagupgrade ng driver, nagsstutter na.. related kaya sa HDD yung problem? kasi nagrevert back ako sa previous versions ng driver ko, ganun pa din yung stutter. I also tried playing the files through VLC, DIVX and XBMC, meron pa rin stutter. TIA
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Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 03, 2013 at 06:52 PM
Baka naka disable ang hardware acceleration. :o
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: slashercha on Jun 04, 2013 at 04:33 AM
mga masters help needed po... here's my setup

1) Desktop PC - integrated AVL, ati 6670, 4gb RAM, win7ult 64-bit, 3tb storage (3 hdds)
       a. display port - none connected
       b. DVI-i - LG W2252TQ (my primary monitor but labeled as 2 by windows)
                     res: 1680 x 1050
       c. HDMI - Samsung 51d450
                     res: 1360 x 768
2) TV connects to LG 5.1 htib via optical cable for sound

3)Player: XBMC Frodo
 

so i have two issues:

1) i can't get the best resolution on my tv as compared to the tv's built in media player
        - i tried to play with the resolution in XBMC pero the picture is either stretched on high res (not filling the whole screen most of the time) or if it occupies the screen, di ganun kaganda quality)

2) i can't get the sound to be on either DTS or dolby
       - although i can whenever the movie is played using the built in MP

notes: on the htib, only hdmi out is available; audio and video drivers are all up to date



your inputs are highly appreciated..thanks in advance :) :) :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 04, 2013 at 05:56 AM
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- i tried to play with the resolution in XBMC pero the picture is either stretched on high res (not filling the whole screen most of the time) or if it occupies the screen, di ganun kaganda quality)

Panong strecth? Most of the movie na HD is not full screen like the sample below. Ano ba ang play mo na HD movies baka naman sa source ang may issue.

(http://www.blu-ray.com/images/reviews/6017_7_1080p.jpg)

Your TV should support DTS para DTS ang output sa LG HTIB mo why not connect your HTIB to your pc directly with optical out that way it will iut DTS audio.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 04, 2013 at 04:29 PM
meron bang app for android that can be use as a keyboard and mouse for windows 7?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 04, 2013 at 04:31 PM
meron bang app for android that can be use as a keyboard and mouse for windows 7?

Gpad PRO (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisters.android.remote.paid&hl=en)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: slashercha on Jun 06, 2013 at 07:19 AM
thanks sa reply sir  :)

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Panong strecth? Most of the movie na HD is not full screen like the sample below. Ano ba ang play mo na HD movies baka naman sa source ang may issue.

ung sa akin hindi full screen if i opt for the quality, pag size naman hinabol ko, di na sya clear...all of my 720p and 1080p (mkv movies) ganito nangyayari if played on my pc using xbmc..i don't have this issue pag internal player ginagamit ko.  it's with the resolution setting kasi the proportion changes everytime i change the resolution setting in xbmc. i just can't find the right one that will match the quality and proportion like when using the internal player. i'll try to post some pics.

btw, i checked the specs nung tv, 1365x768 ung resolution nya pero walang ganitong setting either in xbmc, amd catalyst or windows display properties  :-\

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Your TV should support DTS para DTS ang output sa LG HTIB mo why not connect your HTIB to your pc directly with optical out that way it will iut DTS audio.


i can have dts and dolby using the built-in player then optical cable to my htib. pero pag pc>hdmi>tv>optical cable>htib, stereo lang.  mukhang sound card na nga lang solution ko nito - video na lang sa tv using hdmi then pc to htib via optical cable.  :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 06, 2013 at 07:25 AM
thanks sa reply sir  :)

ung sa akin hindi full screen if i opt for the quality, pag size naman hinabol ko, di na sya clear...all of my 720p and 1080p (mkv movies) ganito nangyayari if played on my pc using xbmc..i don't have this issue pag internal player ginagamit ko.  it's with the resolution setting kasi the proportion changes everytime i change the resolution setting in xbmc. i just can't find the right one that will match the quality and proportion like when using the internal player. i'll try to post some pics.

btw, i checked the specs nung tv, 1365x768 ung resolution nya pero walang ganitong setting either in xbmc, amd catalyst or windows display properties  :-\


i can have dts and dolby using the built-in player then optical cable to my htib. pero pag pc>hdmi>tv>optical cable>htib, stereo lang.  mukhang sound card na nga lang solution ko nito - video na lang sa tv using hdmi then pc to htib via optical cable.  :(

Wla bang optical out yung mobo mo? Most new mobo kasi meron na.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 06, 2013 at 07:27 AM
Wla bang optical out yung mobo mo? Most new mobo kasi meron na.
minsan kasi pag may digital coax, walang optical out. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: slashercha on Jun 07, 2013 at 05:24 AM
eto lang audio nya sir, so need ko ng sound card

1 X Audio port (Line Out/Line In/Mic In)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jun 07, 2013 at 06:39 AM
eto lang audio nya sir, so need ko ng sound card

1 X Audio port (Line Out/Line In/Mic In)
patingin nga ng back panel ng mobo mo bro
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 07, 2013 at 06:54 AM
eto lang audio nya sir, so need ko ng sound card

1 X Audio port (Line Out/Line In/Mic In)

Anong model and brand ng mobo mo?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 07, 2013 at 06:26 PM
Gpad PRO (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobisters.android.remote.paid&hl=en)

thanks doc, one more question what OS would be better for purely htpc use windows 7 or 8?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 07, 2013 at 07:26 PM
thanks doc, one more question what OS would be better for purely htpc use windows 7 or 8?

windows 7 for me
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 08, 2013 at 05:08 AM
windows 7 for me

+1.  Di ko pa natry Windows 8. I've been using Win7 for my 2 HTPCs (Athlon X2 and E350) since it came out and had no problems whatsoever.  Just dunno with the newer hardware.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Nikkie on Jun 08, 2013 at 10:25 AM
Windows 8. I just love how Metro looks. Specially when you have lots of apps/games. Cleaner look for me.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: slashercha on Jun 14, 2013 at 02:45 AM
Anong model and brand ng mobo mo?

eto sir

H61H2-MV (V1.0) 
http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=1427&MenuID=103&LanID=0 (http://www.ecs.com.tw/ECSWebSite/Product/Product_Detail.aspx?DetailID=1427&MenuID=103&LanID=0)

for the video card, i'm using this one

SAPPHIRE HD 6670 1GB GDDR5
http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-radeon-hd-6670-1gb-ddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdfygjystmyqrx (http://www.flipkart.com/sapphire-amd-ati-radeon-hd-6670-1gb-ddr5-graphics-card/p/itmdfygjystmyqrx)

actually i got myself a new sound card na may optical out and used vlc instead. i'm satisfied with the results especially sa sound, mas clear sya and of course i can now enjoy dts and dolby on my htib   ^-^ O0
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 14, 2013 at 08:56 PM
parang ang mahal ng RAM ngayon, dahil ba sa issue ng pinas sa taiwan?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jun 14, 2013 at 09:25 PM
sabi sa tekzilla.. malaki daw po nalugi ng ram makers last year.. kaya ililipat na nila assembly line nila to make phone rams and phone microsd cards.. kaya magkakashortage po sa pc rams... sabi nila expected daw mag dodouble price by sept..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jun 16, 2013 at 01:34 PM
sabi sa tekzilla.. malaki daw po nalugi ng ram makers last year.. kaya ililipat na nila assembly line nila to make phone rams and phone microsd cards.. kaya magkakashortage po sa pc rams... sabi nila expected daw mag dodouble price by sept..

not good, ano ba kinalugi nila?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jun 16, 2013 at 05:56 PM
from what i remember... ang sabi sa segment nila is... lumiit ang market ng pc.. dala siguro ng tablets and smartphones.. kaya nawalan ng demand..

here is the video... in the link..
http://revision3.com/tekzilla/ipad-mini-vs-galaxy-tab-2
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 16, 2013 at 06:00 PM
Lahat naman ng pc parts naging maliit ang market ang hdd na lang ata medyo ok pa market.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jun 16, 2013 at 08:31 PM
Lahat naman ng pc parts naging maliit ang market ang hdd na lang ata medyo ok pa market.

Dami na kasi NMT nalang binibili.  ::)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jun 16, 2013 at 11:44 PM
lahat lumiit market pero.. nalulugi yata manufacturers.. siguro mas maliit markup sa market nila..

boards kasi.. tinitignan natin features etc etc..
ram para sakin.. dalawang klase lang.. good brand and generic.. hehe... if budget ko good brand.. id pick cheapest good brand... and if budget ko generic.. id pick cheapest generic..

and may choice sila to manufacture other types of memory nalang imbis na pc ram
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jun 16, 2013 at 11:48 PM
Dami na kasi NMT nalang binibili.  ::)

Isang nnmt katumbas isang board haha
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jun 24, 2013 at 01:20 AM
lahat lumiit market pero.. nalulugi yata manufacturers.. siguro mas maliit markup sa market nila..

boards kasi.. tinitignan natin features etc etc..
ram para sakin.. dalawang klase lang.. good brand and generic.. hehe... if budget ko good brand.. id pick cheapest good brand... and if budget ko generic.. id pick cheapest generic..

and may choice sila to manufacture other types of memory nalang imbis na pc ram

Tama sir. Sa PC RAM, enthusiast and legacy models lang ang mataas ang markup for now. Yung mainstream models are highly commoditized kasi.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 13, 2013 at 01:23 PM
mga bossing ask lang po ako ng tips :)

Im using AMD A8 3850 Processor for my HTPC.
pag check ko ng CPUZ, card is 6550D.
ano po ang videocard gagamitin ko para maging crossfire po siya?
may advantage ba eto for movie viewing if crossfire?

from AMD Site:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3808/9274923772_398e750ae7_z.jpg)



nakalagay kasi sa Box ng AMD A8 3850 ay ganito:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/9274917036_fee2099b2e_z.jpg)

thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 13, 2013 at 01:29 PM
mga bossing ask lang po ako ng tips :)

Im using AMD A8 3850 Processor for my HTPC.
pag check ko ng CPUZ, card is 6550D.
ano po ang videocard gagamitin ko para maging crossfire po siya?
may advantage ba eto for movie viewing if crossfire?

from AMD Site:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3808/9274923772_398e750ae7_z.jpg)



nakalagay kasi sa Box ng AMD A8 3850 ay ganito:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/9274917036_fee2099b2e_z.jpg)

thanks

Dapat check ko sa box andun and puwede i crossfire or check sa amd site anong vc puwede.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 14, 2013 at 09:56 PM
pano ba icrossfire ang A8? kasi ung normal di ba may bridge cable sa 2 videocard?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 15, 2013 at 08:16 AM
pano ba icrossfire ang A8? kasi ung normal di ba may bridge cable sa 2 videocard?

yung A8 Llano po kasi boss APU na siya, with onboard graphics na po ang processor :)
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/a-series/Pages/a-series-model-number-comparison.aspx

pag nilagyan mo po ng another card na match sa sa Processor, magiging dual na po :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 15, 2013 at 08:51 AM
yung A8 Llano po kasi boss APU na siya, with onboard graphics na po ang processor :)
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/processors/a-series/Pages/a-series-model-number-comparison.aspx

pag nilagyan mo po ng another card na match sa sa Processor, magiging dual na po :)

im using AMD A8 5600K Trinity kasi and ung onboard nya HD7560D gusto ko sana itry ung crossfire niya, if mag lagay ba ko ng videocard na HD7560 automatic na siya magcrossfire?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 15, 2013 at 09:25 AM
im using AMD A8 5600K Trinity kasi and ung onboard nya HD7560D gusto ko sana itry ung crossfire niya, if mag lagay ba ko ng videocard na HD7560 automatic na siya magcrossfire?

boss check mo sa box ng processor kung ano recommended na Videocard ang pwede para maging dual :)
kayaga po nito, sa gilid ng box.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3746/9274917036_fee2099b2e_z.jpg)

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 16, 2013 at 08:37 AM
pero pag kinabit ko ung videocard wala ng icoconfigure para maging crossfire?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 16, 2013 at 02:56 PM
Sa totoo lang why not get a 7000 series na dedicated VC mas ok pa sa power consumption that doing the dual.


(http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1805/zerocore.jpg)

(http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1805/zerocore-3.jpg)

(http://www.legitreviews.com/images/reviews/1805/zerocore-2.jpg)

Available on select, high-performance AMD Radeon™ HD 7000 Series graphics products, the Graphics Core Next (GCN) Architecture is a radically new approach to the design of a consumer GPU.

Most importantly, it is the world's first 28nm GPU architecture, which enables AMD to fit up to 4.3 billion transistors-the most basic building blocks of a GPU-into approximately the same space once needed to fit 2.6 billion. Increasing transistor density by greater than 60% is more than just a feat of engineering-it's responsible for the world's most powerful and advanced GPU.1

Designed to push not only the boundaries of DirectX® 11 gaming, the GCN Architecture is also AMD's first design specifically engineered for general computing. Equipped with up to 32 compute units (2048 stream processors), each containing a scalar coprocessor, AMD's 28nm GPUs are more than capable of handling workloads-and programming languages-traditionally exclusive to the processor. Coupled with the dramatic rise of GPU-aware programming languages like C++ AMP and OpenCL™, the GCN Architecture is truly the right architecture for the right time.

Efficiency

Finally, it's important that great performance and great image quality doesn't come at the expense of a high power bill. Compared to the AMD Radeon™ HD 6000 Series, products with the GCN Architecture feature reduced power consumption in the "idle state," better known as the time when you're doing desktop work. But there's more, too.

AMD ZeroCore Power Technology

AMD ZeroCore Power Technology leverages AMD's leadership in notebook power efficiency to grant our desktop GPUs the ability to power down when your monitor is off, also known as the "long idle state."3


This is great for those times when you've stepped away from your PC to take a call, watch TV, or pop down to the store. Furthermore, AMD ZeroCore Power allows additional GPUs in an AMD CrossFire™ technology configuration to shut off when they're not in use-even the fan stops spinning!
An AMD-exclusive technology, AMD ZeroCore Power ensures that unused or idle GPUs are as efficient as possible.

Even the most hardcore gamer with an AMD CrossFire™ multi-gpu configuration benefits from AMD ZeroCore Power. Unused or idle GPUs are shut down until needed to conserve power.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gcn/Pages/gcn-architecture.aspx (http://www.amd.com/us/products/technologies/gcn/Pages/gcn-architecture.aspx)

Now i can upgrade to richland with HD8670D IGP.

(http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviewimages/amd-richland-apu-review/amd-richland-apu-review.jpg)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/A10-6700/6700box.jpg)

Some comparison with the IGP.

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/A10-6700/graph-13.jpg)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/A10-6700/graph-14.jpg)

(http://img.hexus.net/v2/cpu/amd/A10-6700/graph-15.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 17, 2013 at 11:42 AM
7000 series na ung A8 5600K, no need na ba mag crossfire?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 17, 2013 at 11:57 AM
7000 series na ung A8 5600K, no need na ba mag crossfire?

Kayang kaya na yan kung Bluray and MKV lang naman. Yung A10-5600 ko HD7000 na din naman. NO issue on paling HD movies.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 17, 2013 at 01:07 PM
Kayang kaya na yan kung Bluray and MKV lang naman. Yung A10-5600 ko HD7000 na din naman. NO issue on paling HD movies.

dagdag na lang siguro ako ng ram
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 17, 2013 at 01:14 PM
dagdag na lang siguro ako ng ram

Sa akin 8GB and i use the 2GB on my IGP.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Jul 17, 2013 at 01:34 PM
6gb lang kasi nakakabit ngayon parang kulang
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 17, 2013 at 02:25 PM
6gb lang kasi nakakabit ngayon parang kulang

Ano ba ginagawa mo sa HTPC aside from viewing movies? Kasi kung tutuusin 2GB sa IGP and 4GB sa iba dapat okay lang. pero kung may slot pa yan add ka na lang 6GB pa.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 17, 2013 at 05:01 PM
My HTPC.
removed sa DVD ROM, replace it with HDD and Veris Elite :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7335/9304412963_5d5dc44363_z.jpg)

[/img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7387/9304414743_851f31d33a_z.jpg[/img]

19.5 TB Overall :D
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 18, 2013 at 01:02 AM
My HTPC.
removed sa DVD ROM, replace it with HDD and Veris Elite :)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7335/9304412963_5d5dc44363_z.jpg)

[/img]http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7387/9304414743_851f31d33a_z.jpg[/img]

19.5 TB Overall :D

Gumamit na ako dati niyang veris elite pero benta ko din. Haha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 18, 2013 at 07:46 AM
Gumamit na ako dati niyang veris elite pero benta ko din. Haha

boss parang ayaw ko na nga rin :D hehehehe :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jul 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM
wow daming space 19.5tb:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM
wow daming space 19.5tb:D

boss dahil yan kay bossing xrampage, puro Remux & 3D ISO and DL :D
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 18, 2013 at 01:20 PM
boss dahil yan kay bossing xrampage, puro Remux & 3D ISO and DL :D

Haha bat ako ang salarin. Hihi
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jul 18, 2013 at 02:10 PM
hehe.. sir xrampage.. sainyo po ilan gb total? naalala ko upgrading kayo 2tb hds to 4tb hds e.. hehe
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 18, 2013 at 02:35 PM
hehe.. sir xrampage.. sainyo po ilan gb total? naalala ko upgrading kayo 2tb hds to 4tb hds e.. hehe

Nasa akin na lahat wahahahah
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jaime4i on Jul 18, 2013 at 02:52 PM
Haha bat ako ang salarin. Hihi
idol kasi kita boss. kaya nag lian-li HTPC Case na rin ako at nag Remux and 3D ISO dahil natauhan ako sa mga collections ko --- crap! :D hehehehe Salamat
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 18, 2013 at 11:51 PM
Is it advisable to use liquid cool in htpc cpu?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jul 19, 2013 at 09:33 AM
Is it advisable to use liquid cool in htpc cpu?

yes! if you're gonna keep it running 24/7, then by all means!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Jul 19, 2013 at 10:01 AM
yes! if you're gonna keep it running 24/7, then by all means!

Does it really make a big difference sir if you're running stock clocks? I've been thinking of getting the H70 but since I'm not overclocking nag air cool lang ako.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jul 19, 2013 at 10:11 AM
hindi pako nagkakaroon ng watercooled pc.. hehe maingay ba yan? tahimik?
madami nga ngayon sa pchub yata mura.. hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 19, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Does it really make a big difference sir if you're running stock clocks? I've been thinking of getting the H70 but since I'm not overclocking nag air cool lang ako.

Less clutter and mas malamig siya even wala AC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Jul 19, 2013 at 10:15 AM
hindi pako nagkakaroon ng watercooled pc.. hehe maingay ba yan? tahimik?
madami nga ngayon sa pchub yata mura.. hehe

There are different types of water cooling sir. May sealed like the H50/70 which are silent and maintenance free. And there's the custom water cooling where it has more parts, more maintenance and is very expensive. Ang noise level naman would depend on the components like radiator fans, mounting position etc.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jul 19, 2013 at 10:15 AM
Does it really make a big difference sir if you're running stock clocks? I've been thinking of getting the H70 but since I'm not overclocking nag air cool lang ako.

if you're not gonna overclock, just get the entry-level H60.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 19, 2013 at 12:58 PM
Noob question mga sir is bigger ram advisable sa htpc like 16gb compare to 4 or 8gb?? Thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Jul 19, 2013 at 01:07 PM
Noob question mga sir is bigger ram advisable sa htpc like 16gb compare to 4 or 8gb?? Thanks

Sir if you're only going to use it for watching movies 4G should be more than enough. But if you will rip, convert, and render then more might be needed.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 19, 2013 at 01:10 PM
Thanks sir titor planning to try the htpc set up eh pero noob pa talaga sa pc he he he
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Jul 19, 2013 at 01:28 PM
Thanks sir titor planning to try the htpc set up eh pero noob pa talaga sa pc he he he

It's just a matter of mix and match sir depending on your needs/budget.

Here are some tips sir to save some money for other quality parts.

- Don't go cheap on your power supply. (don't go generic) 80plus bronze rating kahit 500W is much better than an 800w generic (modular is an added bonus for better airflow)
- If you don't plan to overclock you don't need the unlocked multipliers (noted by "K" for sandy/ivy bridge proc)
- If you plan to use a discreet video card you will not need those higher clocked Rams since it will not be sharing resources for the GPU
- Again, if no OC is needed you don't need Rams with tight settings. (CL rating) even with a CL9 ram you can overclock without changing voltages.
- You're not going to use all of the features in the motherboard so get something that will suit your needs

And I recommend that with your savings you get at least 60G ssd for your software. You will see a huge difference in loading times.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 19, 2013 at 02:38 PM
It's just a matter of mix and match sir depending on your needs/budget.

Here are some tips sir to save some money for other quality parts.

- Don't go cheap on your power supply. (don't go generic) 80plus bronze rating kahit 500W is much better than an 800w generic (modular is an added bonus for better airflow)
- If you don't plan to overclock you don't need the unlocked multipliers (noted by "K" for sandy/ivy bridge proc)
- If you plan to use a discreet video card you will not need those higher clocked Rams since it will not be sharing resources for the GPU
- Again, if no OC is needed you don't need Rams with tight settings. (CL rating) even with a CL9 ram you can overclock without changing voltages.
- You're not going to use all of the features in the motherboard so get something that will suit your needs

And I recommend that with your savings you get at least 60G ssd for your software. You will see a huge difference in loading times.

Here is my plan build sir titor

Cpu i5 4670 haswell with gpu intel hd 4600

Mobo: asus z87 pro

Hdd: ssd intel 330 180gb

Powersupply: 800w everest 80bronze ata yun

Casing: mini tower
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 19, 2013 at 02:40 PM
Noob pero gamer. nyahahaha
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 19, 2013 at 02:42 PM
Noob pero gamer. nyahahaha

Nyahahahha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Jul 19, 2013 at 02:55 PM
Here is my plan build sir titor

Cpu i5 4670 haswell with gpu intel hd 4600

Mobo: asus z87 pro

Hdd: ssd intel 330 180gb

Powersupply: 800w everest 80bronze ata yun

Casing: mini tower

Ram nalang and HDD kulang and optical drive if needed.

Since your using the integrated GPU get higher clocked ram. Minimum would 1600mhz since it shares it. yung 8G is about 3700php. And I don't have any experience with FSP psu's sir. But 800w is an overkill IMO. that system would not even reach 200w. Seasonic M12II 620watts 80 Plus Bronze, Modular PSU pwede ko i recommend to. I'm using it. It's powering an old power hungry pc of the 1st gen sandy bridge i5-760 with another power hungry ATI-5850 w 2x2TB hdd. And i use this for gaming which brings out the full power of the components.   
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 19, 2013 at 03:11 PM
Ram nalang and HDD kulang and optical drive if needed.

Since your using the integrated GPU get higher clocked ram. Minimum would 1600mhz since it shares it. yung 8G is about 3700php. And I don't have any experience with FSP psu's sir. But 800w is an overkill IMO. that system would not even reach 200w. Seasonic M12II 620watts 80 Plus Bronze, Modular PSU pwede ko i recommend to. I'm using it. It's powering an old power hungry pc of the 1st gen sandy bridge i5-760 with another power hungry ATI-5850 w 2x2TB hdd. And i use this for gaming which brings out the full power of the components.   

Kahit seasonic 520 watts which im using with my HTPC semi modular.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jul 19, 2013 at 09:06 PM
Here is my plan build sir titor

Cpu i5 4670 haswell with gpu intel hd 4600

Mobo: asus z87 pro

Hdd: ssd intel 330 180gb

Powersupply: 800w everest 80bronze ata yun

Casing: mini tower

pang gamer na specs to ah. kulang na lang video card. ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Jul 21, 2013 at 04:46 PM
Gumamit na ako dati niyang veris elite pero benta ko din. Haha

Question lang po,

Do you end up with different "mappings" of your drives in your computer? or one mapping lang po with total of 19tb?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: karloff on Jul 21, 2013 at 06:00 PM
Question lang po,

Do you end up with different "mappings" of your drives in your computer? or one mapping lang po with total of 19tb?

per drive ang mapping nyan unless naka RAID configuration ang HDD
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jul 21, 2013 at 07:11 PM
Is it advisable to use liquid cool in htpc cpu?

There's nothing wrong with it. I'd rather get a very quiet air cooler in most cases, though (granted that the build allows for it). The latter is usually quieter and more reliable, except for more exotic liquid-coolers like a reserator or custom builds.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jul 21, 2013 at 11:59 PM
i use fanless air cool.. sobra tahimik.. no moving parts since naka ssd yung htpc.. nagkakaroon lang ng noise.. pag ginamit na movie hd files..
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jul 22, 2013 at 01:14 AM
i use fanless air cool.. sobra tahimik.. no moving parts since naka ssd yung htpc.. nagkakaroon lang ng noise.. pag ginamit na movie hd files..

I'm actually excited to see the upcoming passively-cooled Haswell NUCs with USB 3.0 and allegedly a notebook drive bay. It'd make what many of us are enjoying accessible to the mainstream consumer.

The drive bay would really be a nice addition. It'd be good even without a drive bay though, as the msata ssd is pretty adequate as long as network storage is available. The current Ivy Bridge NUCs are quite usable, but are audible under load.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:49 AM
Regarding mapping of drives, if I assign a drive letter to a particular drive, can I assign the same drive letter to another drive i.e. if I do not use them at the same time. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 22, 2013 at 09:54 AM
Regarding mapping of drives, if I assign a drive letter to a particular drive, can I assign the same drive letter to another drive i.e. if I do not use them at the same time. 

Puwede naman actually pag same usb post yan malamang same na drive letter.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Noob question mga sir if i use video card mawawalang silbi ba yung integrated GPU ng CPU?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Jul 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Noob question mga sir if i use video card mawawalang silbi ba yung integrated GPU ng CPU?

yes sir... it will be disabled. since ang output mo na would be coming from the card and not from the motherboard.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Jul 22, 2013 at 01:35 PM
yes sir... it will be disabled. since ang output mo na would be coming from the card and not from the motherboard.

Thanks sir will try the intel hd4600 first baka naman ok na he he he
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jul 23, 2013 at 07:11 AM
Thanks sir will try the intel hd4600 first baka naman ok na he he he
oki na yan mangboy!  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jul 23, 2013 at 07:40 PM
my Manli T2 AMD E-350 still works! :D  I just tested it with my 4.1 PJ setup earlier today. ;)  now I need a wireless keyboard with trackpad. :P
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 25, 2013 at 07:59 PM
my Manli T2 AMD E-350 still works! :D  I just tested it with my 4.1 PJ setup earlier today. ;)  now I need a wireless keyboard with trackpad. :P

Try with remux movies and splash pro player. Or yung malalaking mkv with high bitrate.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 26, 2013 at 09:31 AM
Ewan ko lang kung kaya ng E350 ang Splash PRO.  Diba CPU intensive ang spLash PRO lalo na kung naka ON ang motion2?
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 26, 2013 at 10:16 AM
Ewan ko lang kung kaya ng E350 ang Splash PRO.  Diba CPU intensive ang spLash PRO lalo na kung naka ON ang motion2?

Yes saka remux
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 26, 2013 at 10:34 AM
My E350 w/ HD6450 can handle BD ISOs and Remuxed Mkvs but I am just using the stock player of XBMC.  Will Splash PRO play smoothly if may dedicated VC on high bitrate files?
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Jul 26, 2013 at 12:42 PM
My E350 w/ HD6450 can handle BD ISOs and Remuxed Mkvs but I am just using the stock player of XBMC.  Will Splash PRO play smoothly if may dedicated VC on high bitrate files?

Magbobotleneck ang proc o and vc baba kasi ng e350.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dmag08 on Jul 28, 2013 at 10:04 AM
bakit po ayaw magplay ang splash pro ex sa htpc ko? pagkainstall nagcracrash pag iplay na yung splash pro
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Jul 29, 2013 at 04:33 PM
bakit po ayaw magplay ang splash pro ex sa htpc ko? pagkainstall nagcracrash pag iplay na yung splash pro

Sa lahat ba ng files yan? Try mo muna sa smaller files kung kaya with all the enhancements off. Same files ba nagplaplay sa ibang players?

Try to reinstall if everything else fail.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 06, 2013 at 09:47 AM
mga master patulong naman. may suggest ba kayo build ng okay na HTPC? budget is 20k...
TIA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 07, 2013 at 07:50 AM
mga master patulong naman. may suggest ba kayo build ng okay na HTPC? budget is 20k...
TIA

An AMD A8 proc is a good start with a decent FM2 mobo. 4G of ram and your choice of HDD and case. Go w a 500W true rated PSU.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 08, 2013 at 02:24 PM
An AMD A8 proc is a good start with a decent FM2 mobo. 4G of ram and your choice of HDD and case. Go w a 500W true rated PSU.

sir pa-comment naman dito sa temp build ko:
Processor ------------------AMD A8-5600K
Mainboard ------------------MSI FM2-A85XMA-P33
Video Card -----------------MSI N630GT 2GB DDR3
Memory ---------------------G.SKILL 4GB DDR3
Casing ---------------------AEROCOOL V3 CASE
Power Supply ---------------AEROCOOL STRIKE X 80PLUS SERIES BRONZE 500WATTS
Harddrive ------------------WESTERN DIGITAL 2TB
Optical Disk Drive ---------SAMSUNG DVDRW
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Aug 08, 2013 at 02:30 PM
Quote
sir pa-comment naman dito sa temp build ko:
Processor ------------------AMD A8-5600K
Mainboard ------------------MSI FM2-A85XMA-P33
Video Card -----------------MSI N630GT 2GB DDR3
Memory ---------------------G.SKILL 4GB DDR3
Casing ---------------------AEROCOOL V3 CASE
Power Supply ---------------AEROCOOL STRIKE X 80PLUS SERIES BRONZE 500WATTS
Harddrive ------------------WESTERN DIGITAL 2TB
Optical Disk Drive ---------SAMSUNG DVDRW

since you're gonna use an AMD APU, you can skip the video card. maybe use the savings for an SSD boot drive. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 08, 2013 at 02:45 PM
sir pa-comment naman dito sa temp build ko:
Processor ------------------AMD A8-5600K
Mainboard ------------------MSI FM2-A85XMA-P33
Video Card -----------------MSI N630GT 2GB DDR3
Memory ---------------------G.SKILL 4GB DDR3
Casing ---------------------AEROCOOL V3 CASE
Power Supply ---------------AEROCOOL STRIKE X 80PLUS SERIES BRONZE 500WATTS
Harddrive ------------------WESTERN DIGITAL 2TB
Optical Disk Drive ---------SAMSUNG DVDRW

Looks good naman. But personal experience ko is to stay away from MSI mobos 2 died in less than a year but that was from the LGA775 and 1156 era. wag ka muna mag dedicated GPU and try out the integrated graphics ng AMD. It's very good for HTPC purposes. Kasi if  you get a dedicated vc mas maka mura ka pag mag x2/AM3 combo ka lang. Here are some options i made. prices from PCHUB.

cpu FM2: AMD A8 5600K 3.6-3.9ghz, hd7560d 256 Shaders, 4-Core    PHP 4490.00
itx mb: fm2 Asrock FM2A75M    PHP 3850.00
mb: fm2 Gigabyte F2A75M D3H    PHP 3040.00


cpu: Intel Core i3 3220 3.3GHz (Dual Core)    PHP 4950.00
Clearance itx mb: lga1155 EVGA Z77 Stinger - 35% OFF + Elite 120 Promo PHP 7500.00
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 09, 2013 at 10:18 AM
salamat mga masters, consider ko mga sinabi nyo :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 12, 2013 at 02:54 PM
after further research, parang gusto ko ITX i-set up:

Processor: AMD A8 5600K
Mobo: Asrock H61M-ITX
SSD: 64gb ssd (sandisk)
HDD: 2TB WD Caviar Green
Casing: Silver Stone Sugo SG05B Lite
PSU: Zalman 600watts 80 Plus Bronze
RAM: G.Skill 2x2gb ddr3 1600

any comments on this mga masters
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 12, 2013 at 03:00 PM
after further research, parang gusto ko ITX i-set up:

Processor: AMD A8 5600K
Mobo: Asrock H61M-ITX
SSD: 64gb ssd (sandisk)
HDD: 2TB WD Caviar Green
Casing: Silver Stone Sugo SG05B Lite
PSU: Zalman 600watts 80 Plus Bronze
RAM: G.Skill 2x2gb ddr3 1600

any comments on this mga masters

Sir ang motherboard mo pang intel. you need an FM2 board.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 12, 2013 at 03:07 PM
eto pala master. FM2 board

Processor: AMD A8 5600K
Mobo: Asrock FM2A75M
SSD: 64gb ssd (sandisk)
HDD: 2TB WD Caviar Green
Casing: Silver Stone Sugo SG05B Lite
PSU: Zalman 600watts 80 Plus Bronze
RAM: G.Skill 2x2gb ddr3 1600
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 12, 2013 at 06:04 PM
check mo nalang sir if yung psu mo mag kasya... Not all silverstone cases accept regular psu's

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=413

according to their website Mini-DTX / Mini-ITX motherboard & SFX PSU compatible.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Aug 12, 2013 at 06:42 PM
check mo nalang sir if yung psu mo mag kasya... Not all silverstone cases accept regular psu's

http://www.silverstonetek.com/product.php?pid=413

according to their website Mini-DTX / Mini-ITX motherboard & SFX PSU compatible.

kailangan ng SFX psu yan. unless you're willing to modify your SG05 to accept ATX size psus.  >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 12, 2013 at 06:52 PM
kailangan ng SFX psu yan. unless you're willing to modify your SG05 to accept ATX size psus.  >:D

good to know... I stay away from these expensive cases since medyo maarte... I stick with cooler master para swak lahat.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:49 AM
made an update sa plan ko i-build na htpc:

Processor: AMD A8 5600K
HSF: Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B
Mobo: MSI FM2-A75IA-E53
SSD: 64gb ssd (sandisk)
HDD: 2TB WD Caviar Green (3.5)
Casing: Cooler Master Elite 120
PSU: Zalman 600watts 80 Plus Bronze
RAM: G.Skill 2x2gb ddr3 1600

any comment mga master?
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 13, 2013 at 10:57 AM
made an update sa plan ko i-build na htpc:

Processor: AMD A8 5600K
HSF: Big Shuriken 2 Rev. B
Mobo: MSI FM2-A75IA-E53
SSD: 64gb ssd (sandisk)
HDD: 2TB WD Caviar Green (3.5)
Casing: Cooler Master Elite 120
PSU: Zalman 600watts 80 Plus Bronze
RAM: G.Skill 2x2gb ddr3 1600

Doable, but it'd likely be tight (in terms of component clearances). Look for low profile RAM and check for clearance (and go for 8 gigs of RAM, if budget allows). You can always slap-in a dedicated GPU if you find the need. Is this purely for movie playback?

Another thought: If you can go all the way up to A10-6800K and 8 gigs of DDR3-2133 (or even 2400 if you can find them at a good price, matched with a capable mobo), that'd give you the peace of mind of not thinking of what if you went for a higher model on the same platform. It's not a whole lot faster mind you (14 to 23 percent faster on the CPU end and upto 67 percent faster on the graphics end), but it's a more palatable balance between CPU and graphics muscle in my opinion.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_a10-6800k_richland_overclocked_review/21 (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_a10-6800k_richland_overclocked_review/21)
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 13, 2013 at 11:35 AM
Mga sir what is the difference of sli mid end 2 vga as compare to using only 1 but high end vga?

Thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 13, 2013 at 12:15 PM
Mga sir what is the difference of sli mid end 2 vga as compare to using only 1 but high end vga?

Thanks

SLI or Crossfire (dual or multiple GPUs) can work well with good driver and application support. However at the same average frame rate, a single high end adapter is usually better due to shorter latency and instantaneous frame rate performance (virtually no micro stuttering issue).

There are also many applications that do not benefit from SLI or Crossfire, so I suggest sticking with single graphics unless the price/performance ratio tips heavily towards dual.

If you're into Crossfire, the Radeon HD 7990 (it's a crossfire design in a single board) just got an official price cut. Local prices should go down a bit in the following weeks.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 13, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Thanks sir!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 13, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Thanks sir!

You're welcome, sir. HTPC graphics use isn't that heavy unless you plan on running 4K or a lot of postprocessing. Gaming at Full HD res in high detail is very doable with an HD 7970 Ghz Ed. or a GTX 770, if you want to do that too.

Likely unnecessary option: The Quadro K6000 is the fastest single GPU right now, with an expected price of about $7K. You can buddy it up with a Tesla K20X (about $4K) in Maximus configuration, if you need even more power. These things drive up workstation prices big time (not that other matching components are cheap).
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 13, 2013 at 08:40 PM
Help! Bakit po kaya ganun yung htpc ko parang ayaw mag integrate yung video from htpc going to my 40inch tv yung pics niya nag sisideward to left the connection was htpc hdmi to onkyo 809 then to tv? All via hdmi

Pero pag htpc to tv ok naman siya at htpc to onkyo 809 to projector ok din siya. All hdmi din

Kakaloko he he he :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:20 PM
Help! Bakit po kaya ganun yung htpc ko parang ayaw mag integrate yung video from htpc going to my 40inch tv yung pics niya nag sisideward to left the connection was htpc hdmi to onkyo 809 then to tv? All via hdmi

Pero pag htpc to tv ok naman siya at htpc to onkyo 809 to projector ok din siya. All hdmi din

Kakaloko he he he :)

nagtry kana ibang hdmi port sa 809?
kung saan nakalagay ung projector dun mo saksak
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:25 PM
Same sis main out going to tv he he he taka din ako eh sa tv withou avr nagana pero pag nilagyan ko avr hindi na nag cecenter tapos try ko pc to avt to pj ok naman
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mykel18 on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:28 PM
Try ka na lang ibang hdmi cable naman.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:29 PM
Same sis main out going to tv he he he taka din ako eh sa tv withou avr nagana pero pag nilagyan ko avr hindi na nag cecenter tapos try ko pc to avt to pj ok naman

Naexperience na namin sa onkyo ni louie dati yan mukhang HDMI issue na naman ng onkyo yan. Mag Pioneer ka na daw na receiver sabi ni louie para no issue at all. Yung HTPC pag ung ang gamit blackout HTPC ni derick. >:D >:D >:D
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:30 PM
Try ka na lang ibang hdmi cable naman.

Ok mamaya try ko teleserye na he he he sila wifey na me ari ng tv he he he
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:31 PM
Naexperience na namin sa onkyo ni louie dati yan mukhang HDMI issue na naman ng onkyo yan. Mag Pioneer ka na daw na receiver sabi ni louie para no issue at all. Yung HTPC pag ung ang gamit blackout HTPC ni derick. >:D >:D >:D

He he he
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:32 PM
He he he

try mo din reset yung onkyo haha kasi may dati din ganyan onkyo din nakuha sa reset or esiest route palit receiver para wala sakit ulo. hahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:37 PM
try mo din reset yung onkyo haha kasi may dati din ganyan onkyo din nakuha sa reset or esiest route palit receiver para wala sakit ulo. hahaha

May sense si Elmira...
Yun atang Pioneer AVR wala issue sa HTPC ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ≧◉◡◉≦xrampage≧◉◡◉≦ on Aug 13, 2013 at 09:39 PM
Psst dun tayo sa mga thread natin wag dito baka mapansin na naman tayo at yariin.  ;) ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Aug 13, 2013 at 10:11 PM
yup reset mo sis... baka masolved.....
tapos recalibrate ka kapag andyan na ung pb12 ko haha..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: f_three on Aug 14, 2013 at 03:47 PM
Doable, but it'd likely be tight (in terms of component clearances). Look for low profile RAM and check for clearance (and go for 8 gigs of RAM, if budget allows). You can always slap-in a dedicated GPU if you find the need. Is this purely for movie playback?

Another thought: If you can go all the way up to A10-6800K and 8 gigs of DDR3-2133 (or even 2400 if you can find them at a good price, matched with a capable mobo), that'd give you the peace of mind of not thinking of what if you went for a higher model on the same platform. It's not a whole lot faster mind you (14 to 23 percent faster on the CPU end and upto 67 percent faster on the graphics end), but it's a more palatable balance between CPU and graphics muscle in my opinion.

http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_a10-6800k_richland_overclocked_review/21 (http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cpu_mainboard/amd_a10-6800k_richland_overclocked_review/21)


yes sir my build is purely for watching movies only
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 20, 2013 at 08:27 PM
Hi Guys! May setting ba sa amd to optimize it? (not overclock) kasi My intel HD 3000 (Core I3 3220 - Laptop) performs better currently than my 8670d (A10-6800 - HTPC).. Not sure baka settings lang.. Because currently my Intel HD 3000 can post process better than my 8670d using MADVR...And also my GPU Load using 8670d is 99% pero sa Intel HD 3000 is only around 78% playing the same content..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 20, 2013 at 11:01 PM
Hi Guys! May setting ba sa amd to optimize it? (not overclock) kasi My intel HD 3000 (Core I3 3220 - Laptop) performs better currently than my 8670d (A10-6800 - HTPC).. Not sure baka settings lang.. Because currently my Intel HD 3000 can post process better than my 8670d using MADVR...And also my GPU Load using 8670d is 99% pero sa Intel HD 3000 is only around 78% playing the same content..

You can disable driver post-processing options if you're using MadVR anyway. You can also try running a software decoder with MadVR if you're running into a GPU bottleneck.

You might've been using Quicksync for your Intel notebook, which explains the difference.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 21, 2013 at 09:38 AM
Hi Sir Stagea... Thank you.. Sorry but medyo Newbie ako sa HTPC e.. I just bought my set-up last sunday.. How do I disable the driver post-processing? And about the software decoder? Is it the one like Open SVC Decoder? What does it do?

If I buy a dedicated video card, will it solve the problem?

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 01:14 PM
Let's say I buy a 7870 Graphics Card will it solve my issue or create more problems? And also can I post process with that set-up (A10-6800 plus AMD 7870) thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 01:39 PM
Let's say I buy a 7870 Graphics Card will it solve my issue or create more problems? And also can I post process with that set-up (A10-6800 plus AMD 7870) thanks!

That is an overkill GPU for an HTPC IMO. Not unless you're into gaming. And if you add that card you need a better PSU of at least 600W true rated. Not to mention the increase in power consumption. If you need to add a discreet GPU look for something that is low profile meaning no need for an external power.

here's a guide.

http://www.squidoo.com/best-htpc-graphics-card

but before you do that try tweaking the settings first in the Catalyst Control Center (CCC) google is your friend. There's a ton of info on the net that can save you time and money. Youre APU is more than capable of handling your needs.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:12 PM
That is an overkill GPU for an HTPC IMO. Not unless you're into gaming. And if you add that card you need a better PSU of at least 600W true rated. Not to mention the increase in power consumption. If you need to add a discreet GPU look for something that is low profile meaning no need for an external power.

here's a guide.

http://www.squidoo.com/best-htpc-graphics-card

but before you do that try tweaking the settings first in the Catalyst Control Center (CCC) google is your friend. There's a ton of info on the net that can save you time and money. Youre APU is more than capable of handling your needs.

Hi Sir..thanks for your reply! That's what I did for the last 3days of Vacation.. hahaha.. Medyo time consuming lang! I'm now using powerdvd but the GPU load is till at 99% even with the TrueTheatre Feature Turned Off..  Kaya I thought of buying a dedicated GPU para effortless sana.. Oh well back to research mode :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:22 PM
Hi Sir..thanks for your reply! That's what I did for the last 3days of Vacation.. hahaha.. Medyo time consuming lang! I'm now using powerdvd but the GPU load is till at 99% even with the TrueTheatre Feature Turned Off..  Kaya I thought of buying a dedicated GPU para effortless sana.. Oh well back to research mode :)

Ano ang Ram Gamit mo sir? baka dun nag kulang... an APU shares the Ram between the CPU and GPU kasi. Grabe yang full load on GPU for movies a...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:36 PM
Ano ang Ram Gamit mo sir? baka dun nag kulang... an APU shares the Ram between the CPU and GPU kasi. Grabe yang full load on GPU for movies a...

Ayun sir..Baka kulang RAM ko? 4gb lang kasi.. Nagbudget kasi ako ng 2k.. last year 8gb na yun.. 4gb lang nabili ko..might be the RAM?

Another question... If magpostprocess ako using MADVR..May nakita kasi ako sa net na settings.. Jinc 3taps AR.. Would a GTX 660/7870 be an overkill?

Pero try ko muna upgrade ram ko.. Ok lang ba iforce ko to 2gb shared memory yung IGP ko? Or Overclock din ibig sabihin nun? hehe.. sorry sir Newbie..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:42 PM

Another question... If magpostprocess ako using MADVR..May nakita kasi ako sa net na settings.. Jinc 3taps AR.. Would a GTX 660/7870 be an overkill?


definitely overkill. kahit entry-level video cards like 7750 or GT640, pwede na for htpc.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:45 PM
definitely overkill. kahit entry-level video cards like 7750 or GT640, pwede na for htpc.

Ok sir thank you! Good to know na makakatipid ako.. Akala ko kayang kaya na magpost process nung A10 e.. But will try to upgrade my RAM first! Bad trip lang sobrang mahal ngayon..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:53 PM
Ok sir thank you! Good to know na makakatipid ako.. Akala ko kayang kaya na magpost process nung A10 e.. But will try to upgrade my RAM first! Bad trip lang sobrang mahal ngayon..

AMD APUs benefit from fast memory. try to get 8GB or more of DDR3-1866 or faster memory. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:56 PM
APU loves when you increase the memory clock frequency so check your Ram baka 1333 lang yan. The sweet spot for an APU is 1866mhz.

You do not need to spend more than 4k on a dedicated video card for HTPC. those you mentioned are on the upper mid tier for gaming. I mean it will handle your anything but sayang lang pera since you get the same results with a GTX 630 (HTPC purposes)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:57 PM
AMD APUs benefit from fast memory. try to get 8GB or more of DDR3-1866 or faster memory. ;)

Pareho tayo iniisip sir...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 03:58 PM
My RAM is only 1600? ok na kaya yun or upgrade ako? Benta ko nalang sya siguro in case..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 04:12 PM
My RAM is only 1600? ok na kaya yun or upgrade ako? Benta ko nalang sya siguro in case..

Actually kaya naman yan e. If kelangan mo talaga here are my thoughts:

* sell your existing ram na di masyado lugi and get an 8G 1866
* keep  your ram and buy a discreet low profile video card
* continue finding tweaks in the software end.

feeling ko mas maka mura ka pa if you buy a card pero dagdag kuryente but not that much. you wont notice the difference IMO.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 04:17 PM
Actually kaya naman yan e. If kelangan mo talaga here are my thoughts:

* sell your existing ram na di masyado lugi and get an 8G 1866
* keep  your ram and buy a discreet low profile video card
* continue finding tweaks in the software end.

feeling ko mas maka mura ka pa if you buy a card pero dagdag kuryente but not that much. you wont notice the difference IMO.

Ok sir thank you! I posted my RAM na sa TPC.. hopefully mabenta agad.. hehehe.. Planning to get 8gb 2133.. Mas ok ba pag 8gb X 1 or 4gb X 2? And sa brand..ok ba Veloce Geil Evo Veloce? http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=24844199 compared sa GSKILL Ripjaws?

If buy naman ako card what would you recommend a card that can play remux vids and let's say yung pinaka mabigat iplay to avoid upgrading narin in the future? ok na po ba yung 7750 or GT 640? Thanks sir!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 04:22 PM
Ok sir thank you! I posted my RAM na sa TPC.. hopefully mabenta agad.. hehehe.. Planning to get 8gb 2133.. Mas ok ba pag 8gb X 1 or 4gb X 2? And sa brand..ok ba Veloce Geil Evo Veloce? http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=24844199 compared sa GSKILL Ripjaws?

If buy naman ako card what would you recommend a card that can play remux vids and let's say yung pinaka mabigat iplay to avoid upgrading narin in the future? ok na po ba yung 7750 or GT 640? Thanks sir!

Dual channel ang ram kelangan nyan. So it has to be in pairs. Do you only have 1 stick? if yes you might as well get the same exact one.

Both cards can handle anything. nasa presyo lang yan.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 04:28 PM
Thank you sir! Pagiisipan ko nalang yung next move ko! So If I buy a dedicated gpu no need to buy or upgrade my RAM right?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 22, 2013 at 04:32 PM
Thank you sir! Pagiisipan ko nalang yung next move ko! So If I buy a dedicated gpu no need to buy or upgrade my RAM right?

yup there's no need as long as 2 sticks of ram ang gamit mo na.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 22, 2013 at 04:52 PM
OK sir so buy another ram 1600 and then buy a dedicated GPU.. mas expensive ng konti pero baka mas worth it.. sayang nga lang apu..hehe..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 23, 2013 at 09:56 AM
OK sir so buy another ram 1600 and then buy a dedicated GPU.. mas expensive ng konti pero baka mas worth it.. sayang nga lang apu..hehe..

Sir so 1 stick lang ang 4G mo na Ram?
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Hi Sir Stagea... Thank you.. Sorry but medyo Newbie ako sa HTPC e.. I just bought my set-up last sunday.. How do I disable the driver post-processing? And about the software decoder? Is it the one like Open SVC Decoder? What does it do?

If I buy a dedicated video card, will it solve the problem?

Under vision engine control center go to video then quality. Turn down or disable the available options.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 23, 2013 at 01:44 PM
Sir so 1 stick lang ang 4G mo na Ram?

Hi Sir.. Yes.. 1 Stick lang sya currently.. Nagbuo kasi ako sa DynaquestPC hindi naman nila nagsabi sir na dapat dalawa..hehehe... I bought the 1866 4gbx2 na.. Nagimprove na yung performance.. Although GPU Load parin nya is umaabot ng 80% to 99%.. If I use PowerDVD Ultra 13 TrueTheater option turned on upto 78% to 92%..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 23, 2013 at 01:45 PM
Under vision engine control center go to video then quality. Turn down or disable the available options.

Thank you sir! I will try this at home later :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Aug 23, 2013 at 01:55 PM
Hi Sir.. Yes.. 1 Stick lang sya currently.. Nagbuo kasi ako sa DynaquestPC hindi naman nila nagsabi sir na dapat dalawa..hehehe... I bought the 1866 4gbx2 na.. Nagimprove na yung performance.. Although GPU Load parin nya is umaabot ng 80% to 99%.. If I use PowerDVD Ultra 13 TrueTheater option turned on upto 78% to 92%..

Kaya pala... Grabe naman yung shop na yun di nila alam na dual channel ang kelangan. It should have been 2x2. Try to find solutions via settings sir. I highly doubt na hindi kinaya ng IGPU mo yan.
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 23, 2013 at 07:16 PM
Hi Sir.. Yes.. 1 Stick lang sya currently.. Nagbuo kasi ako sa DynaquestPC hindi naman nila nagsabi sir na dapat dalawa..hehehe... I bought the 1866 4gbx2 na.. Nagimprove na yung performance.. Although GPU Load parin nya is umaabot ng 80% to 99%.. If I use PowerDVD Ultra 13 TrueTheater option turned on upto 78% to 92%..

Make sure that you select the proper profile for your RAM, if your motherboard hasn't done so on its own.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 23, 2013 at 08:24 PM
@titor - oo nga e sir e.. di ako ininfirm about sa ram..bad trip! Doble gastos pa tuloy...

@stagea - yes sir napalitan ko na profke..nagtaka din kasi ako nakit 1600 lang binabasa..hehehe..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 23, 2013 at 10:19 PM
@titor - oo nga e sir e.. di ako ininfirm about sa ram..bad trip! Doble gastos pa tuloy...

@stagea - yes sir napalitan ko na profke..nagtaka din kasi ako nakit 1600 lang binabasa..hehehe..
(http://assets.hardwarezone.com/images/panel_videoquality.jpg)

If you want to reduce GPU loading during video playback, unclick use Automatic Deinterlacing, Color Vibrance, Flesh Tone Correction, Brighter Whites, Edge Enhancement, De-Noise, Mosquito Noise Reduction, Deblocking, Dynamic Contrast, and Enforce Smooth Video Playback. Then pull back the deinterlacing mode slider all the way to the left.

Even the 3D Application Settings can change GPU utilization depending on the playback application.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mangboy on Aug 24, 2013 at 07:01 AM

Make sure that you select the proper profile for your RAM, if your motherboard hasn't done so on its own.

Mga sir pano ito ginagawa parang nakita ko lastnight na yung ram ko 1333 lang but the ram is 1600? Thanks in advance
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: mykel18 on Aug 24, 2013 at 09:10 PM

Mga sir pano ito ginagawa parang nakita ko lastnight na yung ram ko 1333 lang but the ram is 1600? Thanks in advance

Sa BIOS yata yan.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 24, 2013 at 09:23 PM
(http://assets.hardwarezone.com/images/panel_videoquality.jpg)

If you want to reduce GPU loading during video playback, unclick use Automatic Deinterlacing, Color Vibrance, Flesh Tone Correction, Brighter Whites, Edge Enhancement, De-Noise, Mosquito Noise Reduction, Deblocking, Dynamic Contrast, and Enforce Smooth Video Playback. Then pull back the deinterlacing mode slider all the way to the left.

Even the 3D Application Settings can change GPU utilization depending on the playback application.


Thank you sir..will try this when I get home... will it sacrifice PQ? Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 24, 2013 at 09:31 PM
Thank you sir..will try this when I get home... will it sacrifice PQ? Thanks!

It will change the PQ.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Icermad on Aug 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM
Ok sir.. will check the difference.. ano pala magandang after market cooler that will fit my case? Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced? Or a better HSF than stock? Thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Aug 25, 2013 at 08:19 PM
Quote
Another question... If magpostprocess ako using MADVR..May nakita kasi ako sa net na settings.. Jinc 3taps AR.. Would a GTX 660/7870 be an overkill?

Came across that guide a while back. Yan ang setup ko ngayon sa chroma, image upscaling options with JINC 3-taps mode with anti-ringing filter sa madVR renderer using a GTX 670 2GB.

Medyo mabigat din yung GPU load niya at ~60% load tapos since naka sagad lahat yung buffers at queue sizes so umaabot ng more that 1.5GB yung video memory utilization as indicated sa GPU-z lalo na sa 1080p videos. Naka-load din yung external 3DLUT calibration created with Argyll + MadVR and my SpyderExpress4 colorimeter. Activated din yung smooth motion frame blending hence the increased buffers and queue sizes.

Sutter galore yung HD4000 ng intel ivy bridge i5 ng laptop ko sa mga settings above. Long story short, worth it din bumili ng mid-range graphics card with more shader power in the long run and the results are excellent lalo na pag-upscaled yung 720P content parang native 1080p (as long as maganda yung encode) tapos yung smooth motion, tanggal yung judder ng 23-24fps videos like movies and anime sa 60hz monitor ko tapos di kasing bigat ng SVC frame interpolation.


Using DXVA2 Copy-back sa LAV video decoder at MPC-HC.

Ito pala advice for Radeon and intel graphics users I pulled off the web:

Quote
Tips for improving video quality
Thursday August 15th, 2013

This is a tip for anyone who has an Intel or AMD/ATI graphics card. These manufacturers enable certain video 'enhancement' features by default in their drivers. The problem is that those features actually reduce quality instead of making things better.
It is thus recommended to disable these features. This should improve both quality and performance. You can find the relevant options in the control panel of your graphics card. You can usually find a shortcut to that control panel by right-clicking on your Desktop. Options that you should disable are: "Noise reduction", "Adaptive contrast", "Dynamic Contrast", and "Edge Enhancement". The number of options and their names can vary depending on the Manufacturer and driver version. Visit our forum if you need assistence.
If you got a powerful graphics card then you could also try madVR in combination with MPC-HC. madVR is an advanced video renderer that is able to produce better quality than the standard renderers from Windows. Configuring madVR for optimal quality/performance can be a bit complex for novice users, so we only recommend using it if you got a decent amount of computer knowledge.


Based on my experience with my last radeon, totoo ito kaya pala yung matinkad yung kulay, may pixellation compression artifacts at crushed blacks ang ATi/AMD. Ang maganda sa Nvidia, although it looks bland out of the box for most folks, naka disable lahat ng enhancement sa driver by default so bahala yung user kung anong gusto niyan i-enable.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Sep 28, 2013 at 10:58 AM
Mga sir okay ba ito pang HTPC:

Intel Pentium G2030 3.0GHz

G.Skill RipJaws 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBRL)

lga1155 Gigabyte H61M DS2

Fractal Core 1000

or may iba pa much better?

Sa PSU I have no idea, need your suggestions too.

Bale may videocard na ako which is GT630, at saka HDD meron na din...

Need ko na lang CPU, RAM, Motherboard, PSU and Case.

I'm going to use it on Ripped Bluray Movies with Splash Pro, and will connect it to a 42 inch TV

8-10k budget

TY
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Sep 28, 2013 at 11:06 AM
Mga sir okay ba ito pang HTPC:

Intel Pentium G2030 3.0GHz

G.Skill RipJaws 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBRL)

lga1155 Gigabyte H61M DS2

Fractal Core 1000

or may iba pa much better?

Sa PSU I have no idea, need your suggestions too.

Bale may videocard na ako which is GT630, at saka HDD meron na din...

Need ko na lang CPU, RAM, Motherboard, PSU and Case.

I'm going to use it on Ripped Bluray Movies with Splash Pro, and will connect it to a 42 inch TV

8-10k budget

TY


it's good enough. you have a capable video card naman. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Sep 28, 2013 at 11:09 AM
it's good enough. you have a capable video card naman. :)

Thanks DTNS, di kaya mag stutter yung mga ripped bluray mkv files.

Yung mga ripped movies ko ranges from 4GB to 22GB.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Sep 28, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Thanks DTNS, di kaya mag stutter yung mga ripped bluray mkv files.

Yung mga ripped movies ko ranges from 4GB to 22GB.

kayang-kaya yan. check mo feature list ng GT630: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-630/features (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-630/features)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Sep 28, 2013 at 11:18 AM
kayang-kaya yan. check mo feature list ng GT630: http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-630/features (http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gt-630/features)

Nice! Thank you so much sir!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Frankthetank on Oct 01, 2013 at 02:17 PM
mas okay kaya itong AMD setup kesa dun sa intel build ko sa taas:

AMD FX 4130 3.8ghz Quad CPU

MSI 880GMS-E41

G.Skill RipJaws 4gb ddr3 1333 CL9 (F3 1066CL9S 4GBRL)

Corsair VS450 APFC, 450watts

Fractal Core 1000

Kasi nga I'm thinking of Splash Pro which can utilize a 4 core CPU.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Oct 01, 2013 at 04:08 PM
anybody tried OpenElec? I have an old Asus EeePC 1000h that is not being used and I'm thinking of using it as a media player using OpenElec as the software.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Oct 01, 2013 at 04:44 PM
@all

anong palagay nyo sa htpc build na to?:

Cooler Master Elite 361 - 1250
Antec VP450P 450W - 1950
Asus P8B75-M  LE - 3450
Intel Core i5-2500k - on-hand
Kingston HyperX Blu 4GB DDR3-1600 - 1950
PowerColor HD 7750 1GB DDR5 - on-hand
Intel 80GB 335 Series SSD - 4300
TOTAL: 12,900

to follow na siguro ang high-capacity HDD at blu-ray drive.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Oct 03, 2013 at 08:45 PM
Gudpm...ask lng po some help...bigla kasing ayw ng mag boot to any device nun mboard q...msi fm2 a75ia-e53...i can only acess the bios...even i select the hdd or dvd or any other device it only display blank screen like this
(http://imageshack.us/a/img59/3427/pzih.jpg)

and try efi shell it show like this

(http://imageshack.us/a/img89/6518/ezuh.jpg)

i try the hdd to other pc and it works...thx

i also found similar problem like mine but still no solution...http://www.overclock.net/t/1407902/msi-fm2-a75ma-e35-boots-to-a-shell-of-sorts-doesnt-work-sometimes/10 (http://www.overclock.net/t/1407902/msi-fm2-a75ma-e35-boots-to-a-shell-of-sorts-doesnt-work-sometimes/10)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: [dcw]aaron on Oct 03, 2013 at 08:55 PM
try changing the sata cables..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Oct 03, 2013 at 09:03 PM
i tried to change cables and even sata ports but still no luck...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 03, 2013 at 10:33 PM
i tried to change cables and even sata ports but still no luck...
do you have a spare hard drive?  (does not matter if the hdd worked on another computer)
try mo din interchange yung sata ports :)
or try to boot sa ROM with OS boot lang ha do not format and reinstall your OS:D
also
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Oct 04, 2013 at 05:30 PM
I also try that sir but still blank screen p rn sya...I Also reset the bios kaso gnun p din...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2013 at 11:29 PM
kung may discrete vga ka and may onboard vga din, tanggalin mo discrete vga.  linis din ng ram baka sakali :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: defined on Oct 05, 2013 at 08:07 AM
hmm no luck p rin sir...i done everything reset,change sata port/cable/hdd/dvd
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: titor on Oct 05, 2013 at 12:12 PM
This is one elegant case:

http://benchmarkreviews.com/6639/bitfenix-phenom-pc-case-debuts/

tamang tama I'm planning to build one this month... and it's available na dito sa atin.

http://www.tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=26589470
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Oct 12, 2013 at 10:32 PM
I tried putting my HTPC to sleep and hibernate but it keeps on turning on right away.  I already disabled wake up on LAN.  I am using Windows 7.  What could be the problem?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Oct 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM
I tried putting my HTPC to sleep and hibernate but it keeps on turning on right away.  I already disabled wake up on LAN.  I am using Windows 7.  What could be the problem?

baka nagagalaw ang input device mo. pero disabled na ang wake on lan? hmmm...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 20, 2013 at 10:58 PM
Mga HTPC Masters...
I have a Lenovo Laptop which I'm planning to use as HTPC.
The dedicated VC is GTX-660M and Integrated VC is Intel HD4000.
I already installed the latest drivers for the GTX-660m but when I checked the sound playback devices the supported formats only are core DTS and Dolby (No HD Audio)...
Also when I tried using PowerDVD I can't bitstream HD Audio :'(
Another noob question, diba kapag ginamit na ang HDMI output automatic na dedicated VC ang gamit at hindi integrated VC?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)
Thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:10 PM
Mga HTPC Masters...
I have a Lenovo Laptop which I'm planning to use as HTPC.
The dedicated VC is GTX-660M and Integrated VC is Intel HD4000.
I already installed the latest drivers for the GTX-660m but when I checked the sound playback devices the supported formats only are core DTS and Dolby (No HD Audio)...
Also when I tried using PowerDVD I can't bitstream HD Audio :'(
Another noob question, diba kapag ginamit na ang HDMI output automatic na dedicated VC ang gamit at hindi integrated VC?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated :)
Thanks in advance!!!

sis check mo ung laptop kung may switch for integrated to dedicated vc.....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:28 PM
sis check mo ung laptop kung may switch for integrated to dedicated vc.....

Walang switch sis. Yan din una kong hinanap... hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:38 PM
Walang switch sis. Yan din una kong hinanap... hehehe

anu ung current na nakaenable na gpu?
better dun sa dedicated....

wala kana ba ibang htpc software?
TMT or Splash pro?

play ka ng remux na may dts hd or dts hdma
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 20, 2013 at 11:55 PM
anu ung current na nakaenable na gpu?
better dun sa dedicated....

wala kana ba ibang htpc software?
TMT or Splash pro?

play ka ng remux na may dts hd or dts hdma


Parehong nakaenable sa Device Manager...
Pero ang alam ko yung HD4000 na integrated capable din dapat ng HD AUdio bitstream sis.
Natry ko na din sa TMT saka XBMC, parehong downsample sa core audio(DTS/Dolby) sis... :'(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:22 AM
Parehong nakaenable sa Device Manager...
Pero ang alam ko yung HD4000 na integrated capable din dapat ng HD AUdio bitstream sis.
Natry ko na din sa TMT saka XBMC, parehong downsample sa core audio(DTS/Dolby) sis... :'(
download ka splash pro....bitstream lang ang option dun....
sa software configuration lang yan.... ako sa TMT ko pati PDVD ko....nagiging dolby and dts lang option kapag hindi ko pinatay sa firewall ung internet connection....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:36 AM
download ka splash pro....bitstream lang ang option dun....
sa software configuration lang yan.... ako sa TMT ko pati PDVD ko....nagiging dolby and dts lang option kapag hindi ko pinatay sa firewall ung internet connection....

Ok sis thanks ^-^
Try ko sa SplashPro...
Problem ko lang sa SplashPro hindi capable ng BD menu.
Yan kasi main purpose ko sa laptop, to play BD menu kaya try ko sa PowerDVD and TMT, nyahahaha!!! ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 21, 2013 at 12:50 AM
Brader check mo sa BIOS. Dun na di-disable ang VC.

I am using Intel HD-4000 at naka HDMI connection sa Anthem Processor ko..
Check mo yung playback devices mo kung anong driver, kung HD4000, dapat Intel Display audio ang lalabas at dapat default device sya.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/10384603134_fde8827232_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 21, 2013 at 07:31 PM
Brader check mo sa BIOS. Dun na di-disable ang VC.

I am using Intel HD-4000 at naka HDMI connection sa Anthem Processor ko..
Check mo yung playback devices mo kung anong driver, kung HD4000, dapat Intel Display audio ang lalabas at dapat default device sya.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7306/10384603134_fde8827232_z.jpg)

Thanks brader.
Pano ba mag-enable ng Intel Display Audio?
Yung sakin kasi when using HDMI, "High Definition Audio Device" yung nakalagay...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 21, 2013 at 07:54 PM
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/SearchResult.aspx?lang=eng&ProductFamily=Graphics&ProductLine=Laptop+graphics+drivers&ProductProduct=2nd+Generation+Intel%c2%ae+Core%e2%84%a2+Processors+with+Intel%c2%ae+HD+Graphics+3000%2f2000

Download mo rito yung latest driver ng Intel Hd4000 (audio and video driver combined)..just select your OS
After installation, lalabas na yung intel display audio sa device manager (under sound video and game controllers). After that go to playback devices (right click sa sound icon at right corner) then select intel display audio and click set default.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 21, 2013 at 08:12 PM
Thanks brader, pero diba para sa HD3000 yan? ^-^
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 21, 2013 at 08:36 PM
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=22605

Sorry po tao lang... ;D ;D ;D

This for 64bit....
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 21, 2013 at 10:05 PM
bro louie, try mo lang gumamit ng TMT lang pero wag mo padaanin sa xbmc
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Oct 21, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Ok sis thanks ^-^
Try ko sa SplashPro...
Problem ko lang sa SplashPro hindi capable ng BD menu.
Yan kasi main purpose ko sa laptop, to play BD menu kaya try ko sa PowerDVD and TMT, nyahahaha!!! ;D


sis kaya ko pinapatry ung splash pro to isolate the problem... one at a time...

if splashpro software bitstream remux movie meaning your vc was installed properly next pagtuunan ng pansin ung TMT and Powerdvd.....
recently kasi ung tmt and powerdvd ko when my wife uses the htpc to connect to the net nasisira...nawawala ung option magbitstream......lumalabas lang sa TMT pcm decoded and DTS no option for full bitstream
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 21, 2013 at 10:29 PM
https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?DwnldID=22605

Sorry po tao lang... ;D ;D ;D

This for 64bit....

Thanks brader ;)
Will try it again, parang yan din ata yung naDL ko kagabi pero may error previous driver daw cya...
Ewan ko ba parang may mga nababasa akong issues ng HD4000 with Windows 8.1
Raaarrrr sana hindi muna ko nag-update ;D

bro louie, try mo lang gumamit ng TMT lang pero wag mo padaanin sa xbmc

Thanks bro Jammy...
Tried that also to no avail :'(
Try ko mamaya disable sa Device Manager one at a time yung graphics cards...
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Wildfire™ on Oct 23, 2013 at 07:27 PM
my 2TB Samsung HDD full of movies failed and I dont have any backup the damn thing doesnt even appear on the bios, what is the best way to backup HDD?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jh@meeh on Oct 23, 2013 at 07:50 PM
^ you can consider NAS with multiple HDD, then use RAID. If one hdd fails, you can replace it or hot swap it and it will rebuild your files.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 23, 2013 at 10:05 PM
Thanks bro Jammy...
Tried that also to no avail :'(
Try ko mamaya disable sa Device Manager one at a time yung graphics cards...
bro louie nahawa yata htpc ko sayo hehehe
ngayon yung VLC ko ayaw mag output ng DTS or DD ;D
kalikot mode ako nito maya :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on Oct 23, 2013 at 11:47 PM
bro louie nahawa yata htpc ko sayo hehehe
ngayon yung VLC ko ayaw mag output ng DTS or DD ;D
kalikot mode ako nito maya :D

Nyahahaha!!!
Hanap ako murang i3 na win 7 mga around 14K pang DL at try ko ulit HTPC-laptop bago bumili ng Dune Smart ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 23, 2013 at 11:59 PM
Nyahahaha!!!
Hanap ako murang i3 na win 7 mga around 14K pang DL at try ko ulit HTPC-laptop bago bumili ng Dune Smart ;D
yung asus x450ca bro mura lang :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: crazyhog on Dec 11, 2013 at 04:37 PM
s mga HTPC user, un MOBO or ur set up nyo ba can bitstream HD audio ( 7.1 )?

planning to upgrade my pc, and what specific SPEC to look for na pwd maka 7.1 for FM2 processor? TiA
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Dec 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM
s mga HTPC user, un MOBO or ur set up nyo ba can bitstream HD audio ( 7.1 )?

planning to upgrade my pc, and what specific SPEC to look for na pwd maka 7.1 for FM2 processor? TiA

get a video card with HDMI-out and an Integrated HD audio controller like Radeon HD 7750. ;)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on Dec 12, 2013 at 08:29 AM
@crazyhog: my HTPC can bitstream HD audio using either HDMI out or Optical out. my current boards: Gigabyte H77N-WiFi and Asrock Z77E-ITX. both running on Intel HD Graphics.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_HT/Splash_SPDIF_zps5a0db210.jpg)

Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: crazyhog on Dec 12, 2013 at 09:31 AM
@crazyhog: my HTPC can bitstream HD audio using either HDMI out or Optical out. my current boards: Gigabyte H77N-WiFi and Asrock Z77E-ITX. both running on Intel HD Graphics.

(http://i1233.photobucket.com/albums/ff398/temp_album_photo_2/Forum_HT/Splash_SPDIF_zps5a0db210.jpg)

my old rig can bitstream naman ( same s picz nYo ) pero once u try to test individual speaker using ( demo file ), halata na un side and rear surround ay parang naka matrix lang xa unlike using my NMT na separate talaga un sound coming out s side and rear.

1. File used were DTS HDMA movies and Demo file na for 7.1 ( un mag sabi ng this is left...center....right channel etc..)
2. Gigabyte 78g
3. Splash PRO
4. Using HDMi

VS

xtreamer SW3


do i really need dedicted Vid card or pwd na onboard basta un MOBO ay HD Audio capable lang? FM2 Quad sana plan kO.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on Dec 12, 2013 at 09:55 AM
@crazyhog: anong AV receiver ang gamit mo?

you want to bit-stream digital audio, so why do you need a video card? unless by HDMI ang pag-bit-stream mo? if by Optical Out, dapat sound card ang bilhin mo but only if your current sound card cannot handle what you want.
Title: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: crazyhog on Dec 12, 2013 at 10:28 AM
@dm11, its Pioneer 1121.

thru HDMi gamit ko purely for HT(7.0 for now). do u think nasa MOBO ang culprit, 78g cant do HD Audio na 7.1?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: yygoob on Dec 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM
i think hindi kaya ng optical mag bitstream ng dtsma, hd or dolby truehd....bitstreaming maybe done thru video card or pwede din thru mobo and cpu combo....intel i3 and up can do it..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on Dec 12, 2013 at 11:40 AM
yeah, need HDMI cable to bitstream Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD MA.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Dec 14, 2013 at 12:53 AM
Sa mga gumagamit ng bluray player such as Powedvd, TMT and other bluray software that detects cinavia may paraan na para ibypass. Just install anydvd hd and you can bypass the cinavia detection.

(http://i929.photobucket.com/albums/ad139/GIJ03/anydvd_zps7dee4266.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jan 01, 2014 at 06:08 PM
Hello mga sir, san po ba nakakabili ng Logitech K400? Bumigay na kasi yung gamit kong na wireless keyboard and mouse. Or if may other suggestion na affordable. Thanks in advance mga sirs.  :)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Jan 01, 2014 at 08:55 PM
Hello mga sir, san po ba nakakabili ng Logitech K400? Bumigay na kasi yung gamit kong na wireless keyboard and mouse. Or if may other suggestion na affordable. Thanks in advance mga sirs.  :)

(http://imageshack.us/a/img801/2476/5z49.jpg)


try mo sa pc hub at pcx. meron din ata sa octagon.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Jan 01, 2014 at 11:33 PM
try calling in first before going bro HEBREW.  IIRC order basis yan.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: shuttertrigger on Jan 02, 2014 at 07:59 AM
Thanks sir DTNS and ninjababez! Happy New Year!  :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ♡ lvcdg23™ ✌ on May 11, 2014 at 12:06 PM
Mga HTPC gurus, need your help.
Pano ko gagawing multi channel yung max number of channels na output through HDMI saka pano po yung HD audio bitstream...?
Built in VC nang laptop ko is HD-4400.

Many many thanks ^-^

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jh@meeh on May 11, 2014 at 12:25 PM
naka windows 8 k ba? download mo yung latest graphics driver for windows 8.1 tapos install mo lang yung driver para sa audio.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 18, 2017 at 05:21 PM
Which has better upscaling,gt610 or hd6130 radeon (igp ng e350 ko)?
4k kasi tv pero hanggang 1080p lang yun gt610
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on May 21, 2017 at 10:15 PM
Which has better upscaling,gt610 or hd6130 radeon (igp ng e350 ko)?
4k kasi tv pero hanggang 1080p lang yun gt610

magpalit, bili, or buo ka na lang ng bagong HTPC. :P
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on May 22, 2017 at 12:35 AM
ano po cheapest pc ngayon mobo/proc na kaya 4k ngayon?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 22, 2017 at 12:51 AM
ano po cheapest pc ngayon mobo/proc na kaya 4k ngayon?
built in or discrete vga bro?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 22, 2017 at 12:51 AM
magpalit, bili, or buo ka na lang ng bagong HTPC. :P
tama hinalo ko noon pa, mangkukulam ka nga ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on May 22, 2017 at 01:38 AM
built in or discrete vga bro?
builtin lang sana.. hehe meron ba?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 22, 2017 at 02:42 AM
builtin lang sana.. hehe meron ba?
actually in-add ko lang yan para sa mga sasagot, mag setup din kasi ako htpc ulit eh ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 22, 2017 at 04:06 AM
builtin lang sana.. hehe meron ba?

Celeron G3930 and an H110-based board with DisplayPort most likely, if you're after UHD 60Hz or UHD HDR. A DP to HDMI 2.0b (HDR) adapter is rare though; DP to HDMI 2.0a is pretty common (no HDR).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 22, 2017 at 06:26 AM
Celeron G3930 and an H110-based board with DisplayPort most likely, if you're after UHD 60Hz or UHD HDR. A DP to HDMI 2.0b (HDR) adapter is rare though; DP to HDMI 2.0a is pretty common (no HDR).
master ano ma recommend mo mobo proc and vga (if necessary) sa may existing case and psu na, itx lang pala yun sakin :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 22, 2017 at 08:57 AM
master ano ma recommend mo mobo proc and vga (if necessary) sa may existing case and psu na, itx lang pala yun sakin :)

Konti ang ITX boards locally with displayport output. If you won't be doing anything intensive, just get any Kaby Lake compatible board and add a GT 1030.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 23, 2017 at 12:59 AM
Konti ang ITX boards locally with displayport output. If you won't be doing anything intensive, just get any Kaby Lake compatible board and add a GT 1030.
pag hdmi lang master?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 23, 2017 at 01:04 AM
pag hdmi lang master?
No go kung uhd 60 Hz kelangan mo. Hdmi 1.4 lang native ng Intel sa ngayon kaya kelangan ng DP to HDMI adapter or separate GPU.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 23, 2017 at 01:06 AM
^copy master!  gastos nanaman ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 23, 2017 at 02:19 AM
^copy master!  gastos nanaman ;D

If you check max resolution over HDMI, it indicates max res support at 24 Hz. 60 Hz is supported over DisplayPort.
https://ark.intel.com/products/97122/Intel-Core-i7-7700T-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz (https://ark.intel.com/products/97122/Intel-Core-i7-7700T-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz)


Some boards with Thunderbolt controllers offer HDMI 2.0 onboard. I only know of the Asrock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac with this feature in the ITX form factor. However, even these boards don't offer 2.0b.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 23, 2017 at 05:23 AM
Thanks master ivan :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 23, 2017 at 05:33 AM
Thanks master ivan :D

Geforce GT 1030 and Radeon RX 550 ang cheapest GPUs with HDMI 2.0b outputs (HTPC-oriented GPUs). The GT 1030 is a fraction cheaper, while the RX 550 is a bit faster. They make good Kaby Lake partners.


The GT 1030 is at an advantage at the moment due to recently-released PlayReady 3.0 support.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/43526-nvidia-now-supports-4k-netflix-on-geforce-10-cards (http://www.fudzilla.com/news/43526-nvidia-now-supports-4k-netflix-on-geforce-10-cards)


AMD drivers supporting PlayReady 3.0 is also expected to come out (no date yet).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 23, 2017 at 06:57 AM
Geforce GT 1030 and Radeon RX 550 ang cheapest GPUs with HDMI 2.0b outputs (HTPC-oriented GPUs). The GT 1030 is a fraction cheaper, while the RX 550 is a bit faster. They make good Kaby Lake partners.


The GT 1030 is at an advantage at the moment due to recently-released PlayReady 3.0 support.
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/43526-nvidia-now-supports-4k-netflix-on-geforce-10-cards (http://www.fudzilla.com/news/43526-nvidia-now-supports-4k-netflix-on-geforce-10-cards)


AMD drivers supporting PlayReady 3.0 is also expected to come out (no date yet).
back to home theater mode master :D
ill save up nalang para isang bagsakan, i heard OK din daw offering amd; but it looks like intel parin bang for the buck  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 23, 2017 at 07:17 AM
back to home theater mode master :D
ill save up nalang para isang bagsakan, i heard OK din daw offering amd; but it looks like intel parin bang for the buck  ;D
Ryzen processors currently do not have the DRM functionality of Kaby Lake processors (probably because it does not have a built-in GPU). You can wait for Coffee Lake if you want Ryzen 7 levels of performance in a mainstream package with DRM. I'm guessing Raven Ridge would also be PlayReady 3.0 compliant.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on May 23, 2017 at 11:54 AM
so complicated... honestly.. di ko na magets.. hehe
anyways wala pa naman ako 4k tv.. hoping pala.. tsaka ko na problemahin pag meron na.. hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on May 23, 2017 at 12:07 PM
so complicated... honestly.. di ko na magets.. hehe
anyways wala pa naman ako 4k tv.. hoping pala.. tsaka ko na problemahin pag meron na.. hehe
bilhin mo na nga lang 4k tv ko bro, bili nalang ako 1080p tv hahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on May 23, 2017 at 12:08 PM
so complicated... honestly.. di ko na magets.. hehe
anyways wala pa naman ako 4k tv.. hoping pala.. tsaka ko na problemahin pag meron na.. hehe

If you don't expect it soon, baka mas madami ka nang options by then. PlayReady 3.0 support ang stumbling block ng PCs ngayon pagdating sa playback ng UHD sources.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jul 15, 2017 at 04:52 AM
bilhin mo na nga lang 4k tv ko bro, bili nalang ako 1080p tv hahaha
If you don't expect it soon, baka mas madami ka nang options by then. PlayReady 3.0 support ang stumbling block ng PCs ngayon pagdating sa playback ng UHD sources.
hehe yes tama.. tsaka ko na problemahin pag... may 4k tv nako.. hehe.. tagal na kasi ako nagtitingin.. di naman makabunot sa bulsa.. hehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jul 15, 2017 at 08:44 AM
hehe yes tama.. tsaka ko na problemahin pag... may 4k tv nako.. hehe.. tagal na kasi ako nagtitingin.. di naman makabunot sa bulsa.. hehe

Interesting ang Raven Ridge, ang tanong na lang kung may PlayReady 3.0 support (or if providers like Netflix will change gears by dropping the PR3 requirement).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Jul 15, 2017 at 02:53 PM
Regardless of the CPU, if you have a Geforce 10-series card (which is Play Ready 3.0 certified btw), the latest drivers enable 4K Netflix streaming already. I'm just not so sure with other 4K/UHD sources though.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jul 27, 2017 at 11:56 PM
Regardless of the CPU, if you have a Geforce 10-series card (which is Play Ready 3.0 certified btw), the latest drivers enable 4K Netflix streaming already. I'm just not so sure with other 4K/UHD sources though.

This is true now, as discussed last May. Nvidia is trying to differentiate their midrange products from their low end offerings, however. Apparently the feature is not enabled for boards with less than 3 GB of dedicated GPU memory. This pegs the minimum to GTX models (GTX 1050 or higher), unless someone plugs 4 GB of memory on the GT 1030 later on.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Jul 28, 2017 at 01:43 AM
This is true now, as discussed last May. Nvidia is trying to differentiate their midrange products from their low end offerings, however. Apparently the feature is not enabled for boards with less than 3 GB of dedicated GPU memory. This pegs the minimum to GTX models (GTX 1050 or higher), unless someone plugs 4 GB of memory on the GT 1030 later on.
Mukhang 6 digits na yan graphic card na yan.

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Jul 28, 2017 at 02:07 AM
Mukhang 6 digits na yan graphic card na yan.

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Mura lang yan GTX 1050 master. Titan Xp yun mahal sa consumer boards.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Aug 07, 2017 at 01:11 PM
GTX 1050 TI ung pinakamababa na GPU for 4k HDR. 4GB memory ng 1050 TI compared sa 2GB ng basic 1050. Problema lang, Netflix at Amazon pa lang ang may HDR content at physical BD. For HVEC 4K in file form, hindi pa HDR un. Even without HDR, maganda pa rin panoorin since 4k.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 07, 2017 at 02:14 PM
GTX 1050 TI ung pinakamababa na GPU for 4k HDR. 4GB memory ng 1050 TI compared sa 2GB ng basic 1050. Problema lang, Netflix at Amazon pa lang ang may HDR content at physical BD. For HVEC 4K in file form, hindi pa HDR un. Even without HDR, maganda pa rin panoorin since 4k.

Sa notebooks pa lang nga yata ang 4 GB on the plain 1050.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Aug 22, 2017 at 03:31 PM
Sa notebooks pa lang nga yata ang 4 GB on the plain 1050.

Boss ano ba ang mga mobo na available sa market na pde na hdr and uhd?

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/b51bc46a6fa2aa748bb1311c2903a3ca.jpg)

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/e074359a7444d98ba95927c86b3fcbe6.jpg)

Ok na din ang powerdvd di na need ang physical remote

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 22, 2017 at 04:26 PM
Ano mura usb sound card na available locally, na kaya optical or coax digital output? cheap lang sana
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: nerveblocker on Aug 22, 2017 at 04:40 PM
Eto bro... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/25e288f35161a5fc4f9107542f48b970.jpg)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Aug 22, 2017 at 04:42 PM
they are saying that the upcoming XBox One X is a very expensive console, but if you're looking to build an HTPC, I think that the XBox One X is a good alternative ... you get the 4K HDR video, ATMOS (and other mainstream audio standard), UHD BD player - which I think are the main features that most HTPC builders are looking for ... it's cheap compared to a decent spec HTPC, and you have the gaming console capability and other features of XBox ... looking at the specs posted by Sir GI Joe, I think that the XBox One X ticks all his requirements, and this is priced for less than 30k

here are the specs -

CPU: Eight-core 2.3GHz processor
GPU: 40 compute units at 1172MHz
RAM: 12GB GDDR5 (shared between system and GPU)
Bandwidth: 326GB/s
Storage: 1TB hard disk
Disc: UHD Blu-ray player
Video: 4K output, HDR 10 support
Audio: DTS 5.1, Dolby Digital 5.1 and Atmos, PCM 2.0, 5.1, 7.1
Wireless: Bluetooth, dual-band Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi Direct, IR blaster
Connectors: 2x HDMI (2.0b out, 1.4b in), 3x USB 3.0 ports, IR out, S/PDIF, Ethernet

source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/xbox-one-x-preorder-specs-price-release-date-2993238
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Aug 22, 2017 at 05:40 PM
they are saying that the upcoming XBox One X is a very expensive console, but if you're looking to build an HTPC, I think that the XBox One X is a good alternative ... you get the 4K HDR video, ATMOS (and other mainstream audio standard), UHD BD player - which I think are the main features that most HTPC builders are looking for ... it's cheap compared to a decent spec HTPC, and you have the gaming console capability and other features of XBox ... looking at the specs posted by Sir GI Joe, I think that the XBox One X ticks all his requirements, and this is priced for less than 30k

here are the specs -

CPU: Eight-core 2.3GHz processor
GPU: 40 compute units at 1172MHz
RAM: 12GB GDDR5 (shared between system and GPU)
Bandwidth: 326GB/s
Storage: 1TB hard disk
Disc: UHD Blu-ray player
Video: 4K output, HDR 10 support
Audio: DTS 5.1, Dolby Digital 5.1 and Atmos, PCM 2.0, 5.1, 7.1
Wireless: Bluetooth, dual-band Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi Direct, IR blaster
Connectors: 2x HDMI (2.0b out, 1.4b in), 3x USB 3.0 ports, IR out, S/PDIF, Ethernet

source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/xbox-one-x-preorder-specs-price-release-date-2993238

Puwede kaya lang question makapag play kaya ng iso, bd folder and mkv like HTPC?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Aug 22, 2017 at 05:54 PM
Puwede kaya lang question makapag play kaya ng iso, bd folder and mkv like HTPC?

not sure if when this is happening, but this could be the answer -

https://www.neowin.net/news/kodi-just-took-a-big-step-toward-its-return-to-xbox-as-a-uwp-app
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Aug 22, 2017 at 10:31 PM
Eto bro... (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/25e288f35161a5fc4f9107542f48b970.jpg)

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salamat bro, lazada ba yan?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 23, 2017 at 01:11 AM
Boss ano ba ang mga mobo na available sa market na pde na hdr and uhd?

Look for something that has thunderbolt on-board. Chances are, it offers HDMI 2.0b and HDCP 2.2 built-in.

Example: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac

Here's a list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/comments/62fi03/hdmi_20hdcp_22_motherboard_verification_testers/
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Aug 23, 2017 at 01:57 AM
they are saying that the upcoming XBox One X is a very expensive console, but if you're looking to build an HTPC, I think that the XBox One X is a good alternative ... you get the 4K HDR video, ATMOS (and other mainstream audio standard), UHD BD player - which I think are the main features that most HTPC builders are looking for ... it's cheap compared to a decent spec HTPC, and you have the gaming console capability and other features of XBox ... looking at the specs posted by Sir GI Joe, I think that the XBox One X ticks all his requirements, and this is priced for less than 30k

It is great value indeed based on the included hardware and out of the box capability. An HTPC's main advantage over it is flexibility to do other things and expandability.

Fortunately more games are now available between Xbox One and PC, so having both is even better.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-10-games
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Aug 23, 2017 at 07:24 AM
Look for something that has thunderbolt on-board. Chances are, it offers HDMI 2.0b and HDCP 2.2 built-in.

Example: ASRock Fatal1ty Z270 Gaming-ITX/ac

Here's a list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/htpc/comments/62fi03/hdmi_20hdcp_22_motherboard_verification_testers/

Thanks
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 08, 2017 at 04:17 PM
^The cheapest route (if you have an existing pc) is to upgrade your GPU to GTX 1050ti 4GB VRAM..

Php7800 lang or less if sa TPC ka maghahanap

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 09, 2017 at 08:02 AM
ok kaya ito for 2k resolution upscaling/playback Nvidia GTX 460 1GB 256Bit DDR5?

https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=41885081
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Sep 09, 2017 at 08:49 AM
^The cheapest route (if you have an existing pc) is to upgrade your GPU to GTX 1050ti 4GB VRAM..

Php7800 lang or less if sa TPC ka maghahanap



pwede na ang GT 1030 for HTPC. between 3-4k lang cya. naka HDMI 2.0 na. meron pang fanless versions available. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2017 at 08:57 AM
ok kaya ito for 2k resolution upscaling/playback Nvidia GTX 460 1GB 256Bit DDR5?

https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=41885081 (https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=41885081)

It can do the job as long as you're not looking for deep color at that resolution (it can do 12 bpc at 720p, afaik). It should handle H.264 AVC adequately (native support is actually for MPEG-4 Part 2, but there is still some acceleration for newer formats). It will struggle with high res H.265 and VP9.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 09, 2017 at 10:22 AM
pwede na ang GT 1030 for HTPC. between 3-4k lang cya. naka HDMI 2.0 na. meron pang fanless versions available. :D

Kulang sa VRAM ang GT1030 if 4k HDR playback... Just tested right now, using 4k HDR video demos, using GTX1050ti 4GB & a measly AMD A8 procie: ung VRAM utilization nya is hitting 57% on some scenes while CPU is at 40-50%.

Given waaay powerful ung GTX 1050ti 4GB compared to GT1030, I think if a slower card with 2GB VRAM will reach 100% utilization at all times. Probably magee-stutter na ung video nyan.. NVIDIA should have put 4GB VRAM in that card for the HTPC fans (or fanboys :).


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 09, 2017 at 10:47 AM
Btw, I also happen to own an NMT, Minix U9-H (4k HDR capable)... If I compare the PQ of the HTPC vs the NMT, may konting edge na lang ung HTPC PQ-wise given I used the same video file & 4k TV..

It used to be a few years ago, wala talaga sinabi PQ ng NMT vs HTPC with an AMD Radeon card plus Splash Pro EX, today this gap is getting narrower compared before... I think the only way for the HTPC to widen the gap again is for media-players (Mirilis & PDVD or DAUM) is to create a media player with very good 4k video post-processing capability. Un nga lang baka minimum CPU requirement will be octa-core with 16threads :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2017 at 11:57 AM
Kulang sa VRAM ang GT1030 if 4k HDR playback... Just tested right now, using 4k HDR video demos, using GTX1050ti 4GB & a measly AMD A8 procie: ung VRAM utilization nya is hitting 57% on some scenes while CPU is at 40-50%.

Given waaay powerful ung GTX 1050ti 4GB compared to GT1030, I think if a slower card with 2GB VRAM will reach 100% utilization at all times. Probably magee-stutter na ung video nyan.. NVIDIA should have put 4GB VRAM in that card for the HTPC fans (or fanboys :) .

Graphics memory utilization should not depend on GPU performance for video playback. You are correct on the memory being inadequate though; the GT 1030 does get to fill its onboard memory when playing back certain materials. I believe this is why they require 3 GB of onboard memory to support Netflix 4k.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 09, 2017 at 04:23 PM
It can do the job as long as you're not looking for deep color at that resolution (it can do 12 bpc at 720p, afaik). It should handle H.264 AVC adequately (native support is actually for MPEG-4 Part 2, but there is still some acceleration for newer formats). It will struggle with high res H.265 and VP9.
ok lang sa pq master, pero kaya kaya nun desktop yun playback ng 2k reso without hiccups? 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 09, 2017 at 10:43 PM
ok lang sa pq master, pero kaya kaya nun desktop yun playback ng 2k reso without hiccups?
Bluray / HD-DVD quality or lower in common formats (conventional VC-1, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 and MPEG-1) kaya nyan. Sa newer high res formats like MPEG-H and VP9 mahirapan kung mataas na quality, malaki chance magdrop ng frames sa complex scenes.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2017 at 12:32 AM
Bluray / HD-DVD quality or lower in common formats (conventional VC-1, MPEG-4, MPEG-2 and MPEG-1) kaya nyan. Sa newer high res formats like MPEG-H and VP9 mahirapan kung mataas na quality, malaki chance magdrop ng frames sa complex scenes.
palit video card master, or processor?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 01:28 AM
palit video card master, or processor?
Either can resolve the issue. Changing to a modern processor would mean a new board too.

If you're buying this machine, might as well live with it until the thing fails. MPEG-4 and VC-1 are still the most popular distribution formats anyway.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2017 at 02:39 AM
Either can resolve the issue. Changing to a modern processor would mean a new board too.

If you're buying this machine, might as well live with it until the thing fails. MPEG-4 and VC-1 are still the most popular distribution formats anyway.

master malaki ba performance difference nila nito?

Which has better upscaling,gt610 or hd6130 radeon (igp ng e350 ko)?
4k kasi tv pero hanggang 1080p lang yun gt610


ito naman yung specs plano ko kunin pansamantagal hehehe

Gigabyte GAP55A UD3R All Solid Capacitors (Gaming Motherboard)
Intel Processor Core i5 660 3.30Ghz.
6GB RAM DDR3
320GB Hardisk SATA
With Sound and LAN (Internet Ready)
Nvidia GTX 460 1GB 256Bit DDR5 PCIE Video Card
Brand New Case black with used PSU 500W black (True-Rated)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 02:55 AM
master malaki ba performance difference nila nito?

Not much. The GT 610 supports the same video formats but can play higher resolution video (but run at the same output resolution.

If you're looking at video playback capability, you may be better served by a modern android box at this price point.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2017 at 05:29 AM
Not much. The GT 610 supports the same video formats but can play higher resolution video (but run at the same output resolution.

If you're looking at video playback capability, you may be better served by a modern android box at this price point.
sa current setup kasi master, maski 1080p may lag pag vlc gamit ko player, kailangan classic gamitin para lang maplay ng matino
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/E350M1/ with gt610
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 06:31 AM
sa current setup kasi master, maski 1080p may lag pag vlc gamit ko player, kailangan classic gamitin para lang maplay ng matino
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/E350M1/ with gt610

Why are you using VLC anyway? VLC uses a software decoder that uses the GPU for hardware acceleration (via DXVA). This saturates the weak CPU in the system as it does most of the work. Use a software that can use a proper modern codec that supports your GPU's hardware video decoder.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2017 at 06:35 AM
Why are you using VLC anyway? VLC uses a software decoder that uses the GPU for hardware acceleration (via DXVA). This saturates the weak CPU in the system as it does most of the work. Use a software that can use a proper modern codec that supports your GPU's hardware video decoder.

ano ma recommend mo master? 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 07:54 AM
ano ma recommend mo master?
Anything recent. PowerDVD, Splash, Kodi, etc. can utilize the hardware decoder when configured to do so.

VLC for Windows is just outdated Windows XP era software, hence the lack of proper support for even not so new hardware.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 10, 2017 at 09:03 AM
Anything recent. PowerDVD, Splash, Kodi, etc. can utilize the hardware decoder when configured to do so.

VLC for Windows is just outdated Windows XP era software, hence the lack of proper support for even not so new hardware.
thanks master
try ko muna bago "upgrade" hardware
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Sep 10, 2017 at 11:04 AM
Parang maganda yung Intel UHD Graphics ng mga 8th generation Core CPUs (Coffee Lake/Kaby Lake-R) for HTPC applications, efficiency wise. Coming soon daw. May nag leak na price list sa PCHUB na.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 11:42 AM
Parang maganda yung Intel UHD Graphics ng mga 8th generation Core CPUs (Coffee Lake/Kaby Lake-R) for HTPC applications, efficiency wise. Coming soon daw. May nag leak na price list sa PCHUB na.

I believe it still needs the LSPCON chip to support HDMI 2.0a, like Kaby Lake. The integrated graphics design is allegedly a carryover from Kaby Lake (rebranded). I'm sure overall performance would go up with the added computing cores, however.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 10, 2017 at 04:21 PM
Btw, kahit naka 6gb total graphics memory na (onboard+gtx1050ti), may isang file format na magee-stutter pa rin ung video, itong .webm 4k file nasa 100% cpu utilization parati ung A8. All other file formats no issues including HEVC. If kodi on Windows 10, nasa 9-10% lang cpu utilization.

The thing is, flawless ang webm file if played on the minix u9 using kodi.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 07:13 PM
Btw, kahit naka 6gb total graphics memory na (onboard+gtx1050ti), may isang file format na magee-stutter pa rin ung video, itong .webm 4k file nasa 100% cpu utilization parati ung A8. All other file formats no issues including HEVC. If kodi on Windows 10, nasa 9-10% lang cpu utilization.

The thing is, flawless ang webm file if played on the minix u9 using kodi.

You may have the same problem as ninjababez. The software you're using isn't using the GPU's hardware decoder. VP8 and VP9 hardware decoding is a recent addition to GPUs, so most applications do not have support for it. Look for a player that can use an external codec, and try having it use the LAV Filters. The latest filters and GPU drivers should help you offload that work.

VP8 is a Google codec (what is in that WebM container). Android has had support for it since Gingerbread, while its successor (VP9) has been supported since KitKat. Android enjoys more software maturity with this codec and has had ready support for hardware decode for a long time, though the hardware that performs this only became commonplace in the past few years.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 10, 2017 at 07:45 PM
To add, graphics memory does not get pooled in use unless you're using split/scissor frame rendering. This is normally for 3D workloads via DirectX, OpenGL, Vulkan or Mantle. Asymmetric Crossfire took full advantage of this mode before it became mainstream, as it was easier to proportion work between GPUs this way.

Going back to topic, you're only able to consume the 4 GB graphics memory in your dedicated GPU for video. You can always choose to disable the APU's integrated GPU (if your BIOS allows you to), if you want to stop reserving memory for it (this will also prevent you from using it on HSA-optimized applications).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Sep 10, 2017 at 10:00 PM
+1 for LAV video decoder. I'm using the new D3D11 native decoder mode with my GTX 1080 and it works really well with the MadVR renderer using the Jinc upscaling algorithm.

On the topic of MadVR upscaling, I tried using NNEDI3 64 neurons but it keeps on crashing due to a bug between OpenCL in the drivers and Windows 10 Creators Update. The new NGU upscaling algorithm is even more demanding on the hardware to achieve the same quality so that's a no-go also. Jinc seems to offer the best balance of performance and quality for me.

I'm using the K-lite codec pack btw, since they seem to have continued the development of the MPC-HC player.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 11, 2017 at 02:27 AM
^^^MadVR is indeed a great tool for those obsessed with image quality and have available processing muscle.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 11, 2017 at 04:42 PM
ano ma recommend mo master?

get the powerdvd bro
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2017 at 02:45 AM
Intel Core2 Quad Q9300  vs AMD E 350
with the right video card, ano mas OK sa playback?  thanks!
malaki ba difference?
yun amd naka 2gb ram lang yun q9300 naka 6gb ram
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2017 at 02:57 AM
Intel Core2 Quad Q9300  vs AMD E 350
with the right video card, ano mas OK sa playback?  thanks!
malaki ba difference?
yun amd naka 2gb ram lang yun q9300 naka 6gb ram

Q9300. The Q9300 competed with Phenoms, while the E350 competed with Atoms.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2017 at 03:02 AM
Q9300. The Q9300 competed with Phenoms, while the E350 competed with Atoms.
for 1080p playback master, ok kaya ito?  https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=41910488

Gigabyte Motherboard GA P35 DS3R Gaming Motherboard (All Solid Capacitors)
Intel Processor Q9300 Core2Quad 2.50Ghz. 6m 1333
6GB RAM DDR2
300GB Hardisk SATA
With Sound and LAN (Internet Ready)
Nvidia GTX 460 1GB 256Bit DDR5 PCIE Video Card
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2017 at 05:18 AM
for 1080p playback master, ok kaya ito?  https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=41910488

Gigabyte Motherboard GA P35 DS3R Gaming Motherboard (All Solid Capacitors)
Intel Processor Q9300 Core2Quad 2.50Ghz. 6m 1333
6GB RAM DDR2
300GB Hardisk SATA
With Sound and LAN (Internet Ready)
Nvidia GTX 460 1GB 256Bit DDR5 PCIE Video Card

I think we've already discussed this. It'd depend on the format that you're playing.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2017 at 05:29 AM
I think we've already discussed this. It'd depend on the format that you're playing.
yun isa yata master i3; nabenta na kasi nung owner :(

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 16, 2017 at 07:21 AM
yun isa yata master i3; nabenta na kasi nung owner :(



It's a little slower than the i5 that you previously posted, but aside from that it will support the same formats. It is a step back from your current GPU in format support, though it is a faster machine overall.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 16, 2017 at 08:14 AM
^thanks master
hirap pala pag matagal kana di updated sa pc ^_^
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 17, 2017 at 06:54 AM
from http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/E350M1/ to http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A75M-ITX/
Processor AMD A8 7600K Kaveri Quad Core processor
ramdam na kaya difference in terms of 1080p playback?  ill leave the scaling sa tv nalang
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 17, 2017 at 08:09 AM
from http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/E350M1/ to http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A75M-ITX/
Processor AMD A8 7600K Kaveri Quad Core processor
ramdam na kaya difference in terms of 1080p playback?  ill leave the scaling sa tv nalang


Yup, quite a significant difference. Kung video playback lang habol mo and you plan to use Windows 10, also consider the G3930. You get more up to date format support for less money.

It offers hardware decode support of 10-bit HEVC and VP9; both are becoming more popular.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 17, 2017 at 04:17 PM
Yup, quite a significant difference. Kung video playback lang habol mo and you plan to use Windows 10, also consider the G3930. You get more up to date format support for less money.

It offers hardware decode support of 10-bit HEVC and VP9; both are becoming more popular.

Yup, quite a significant difference. Kung video playback lang habol mo and you plan to use Windows 10, also consider the G3930. You get more up to date format support for less money.

It offers hardware decode support of 10-bit HEVC and VP9; both are becoming more popular.

malaki difference nung celeron bro vs the a8?
Mas mahal na kasi mobo eh lol
Plano ko sa gpu ako babawi in a couple of months
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 17, 2017 at 10:37 PM
malaki difference nung celeron bro vs the a8?
Mas mahal na kasi mobo eh lol
Plano ko sa gpu ako babawi in a couple of months

The CPU price difference will more than cover the difference in board price. Even H110-based boards support the G3930 if it was manufactured fairly recently (up to date BIOS).

I have already stated the difference, and that is support for the indicated formats. Whether that is "malaki" for you or not is really up to you. You don't need a dedicated GPU to support modern formats with the G3930 as it already decodes them in hardware.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 18, 2017 at 02:03 AM
To check how well your system handles VP9, launch a recent version of Google Chrome and run a high resolution video.

Here's an example:
https://youtu.be/nRt4Duf7GoI (https://youtu.be/nRt4Duf7GoI)

- Right click on the video and click Stats for Nerds. If the Codec says "vp9," then you are running vp9. If it is not, then disable plug-ins like h264ify.
- Change the quality to see how high you can go before you drop frames; the higher quality settings will need a fast internet connection (unless you're willing to wait and buffer).
- Open Task Manager and check the CPU utilization at each resolution -- a computer that decodes vp9 in hardware should not show a large rise in CPU utilization as the quality is ramped up

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 02:26 AM
^master may nag suggest na mag ganito nalang daw

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/7th-gen-a8-9600-apu

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 18, 2017 at 02:45 AM
^master may nag suggest na mag ganito nalang daw

https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/7th-gen-a8-9600-apu
That takes you to an up-to-date socket, giving you a wide upgrade path. Actual performance wouldn't be much different from the A8-7600. Expect it to handle most bitrates of H.265 and VP9 upto FHD via software decoding. Common older formats can be handled in hardware.

If you're planning to get a dedicated GPU, might as well wait it out and get it together with a Ryzen 3 1200 or equivalent.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 03:21 AM
https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/7th-gen-a8-9600-apu 3.3k @ pcx
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/A320M-PRO-VH-PLUS/Gallery#lg=1&slide=4 3.6k @ pcx
single 8gb ram 4.1k

That takes you to an up-to-date socket, giving you a wide upgrade path. Actual performance wouldn't be much different from the A8-7600. Expect it to handle most bitrates of H.265 and VP9 upto FHD via software decoding. Common older formats can be handled in hardware.

If you're planning to get a dedicated GPU, might as well wait it out and get it together with a Ryzen 3 1200 or equivalent.

bali master intayin ko bago mag buo?  or ok na yun posted ko sa taas since may R7 yung a8 9600; tapos sabay ko yun GPU and ryzen (incase mag decide to upgrade?) tama ba?


Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 02:20 PM
Master umabot almost 20k sa pcoptions
Next time na ryzen, pag nag mura lol(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/9e410fb1dc647d956e345a07e7398599.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/7eb6dd18dff1921b9d1c6edd8ca252d8.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/d7afe54f436de1d5b0c9b59127037aa0.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/7e83e5ae4d43fc98c7ac55c20bc80462.jpg)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 05:17 PM
Pucha kamalas ...
Sino may ps2 keyboard sa pasig area?  Ayaw mag install windows 7 :(
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 18, 2017 at 10:18 PM
Bakit pag naka ON ang gpu scaling 1080p max
Pag OFF 4k reso, pag off pa ito eh yun processor graphics ginagamit?  Tama ba intindi ko?

Thanks (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170918/77df9bfefedcf0fe92b46d9de4217306.jpg)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 08:12 AM
Pucha kamalas ...
Sino may ps2 keyboard sa pasig area?  Ayaw mag install windows 7 :(
You're not supposed to run Windows 7 on Bristol Ridge. It will work, but Microsoft does not support this configuration. The same is true for Kaby Lake and Coffee Lake.

Bakit pag naka ON ang gpu scaling 1080p max
Pag OFF 4k reso, pag off pa ito eh yun processor graphics ginagamit?  Tama ba intindi ko?

Off means it's your screen's video processor that does the scaling. Unless the TV has a poor processor (or if you want the GPU to stretch videos to fill the screen), I suggest keeping it off.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2017 at 08:36 AM
Master di ba fully utilized ang processor pag win7 lang ang gamit?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 10:30 AM
Master di ba fully utilized ang processor pag win7 lang ang gamit?

It's not utilization, it's security. Microsoft does not patch old operating systems on new machines.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 10:44 AM
jammy ano TV mo?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Sep 19, 2017 at 12:16 PM
Windows 10 Fall Creator's update is supposed to improve HDR support.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2017 at 01:04 PM
jammy ano TV mo?
55" lg, 6150 yata iirc; bakit bro, ok ba scaling?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 19, 2017 at 01:05 PM
It's not utilization, it's security. Microsoft does not patch old operating systems on new machines.
ok lang master htpc lang and strictly hdme.eu browsing lang hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 01:27 PM
55" lg, 6150 yata iirc; bakit bro, ok ba scaling?

same tayo TV puwede mo ba itry yung lucy 2160p hdr compare ko lang output sa zidoo NMT
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 03:20 PM
same tayo TV puwede mo ba itry yung lucy 2160p hdr compare ko lang output sa zidoo NMT

I don't know how well he'd be able to output HDR content, especially 60Hz HDR10 material. I don't think the software decode is fast enough, and he will be limited by HDMI 1.4b.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 03:46 PM
I don't know how well he'd be able to output HDR content, especially 60Hz HDR10 material. I don't think the software decode is fast enough, and he will be limited by HDMI 1.4b.

Ah so di pa capable ng HDR10 yung HTPC niya? so walapa din HTPC na puwde ng HDR10?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 03:52 PM
Ah so di pa capable ng HDR10 yung HTPC niya? so walapa din HTPC na puwde ng HDR10?

Madami naman, just with different components.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 19, 2017 at 04:06 PM
Madami naman, just with different components.

ah ok so yung kay jammy di pa hdr10 60hz capable? im thinking of setting up a HTPC kasi. di ba may discrete video card na yung setup na hindi pa din ba HDR10 yun?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 19, 2017 at 11:04 PM
ah ok so yung kay jammy di pa hdr10 60hz capable? im thinking of setting up a HTPC kasi. di ba may discrete video card na yung setup na hindi pa din ba HDR10 yun?

He's running integrated graphics on a board with HDMI 1.4b. While there are HDMI 1.4b ports that support UHD HDR, those that do normally run at 30p or less (even with chroma subsampling). HDCP 2.2 support would also be lacking (limiting supported materials with the few video players that do support the mode).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2017 at 05:03 AM
same tayo TV puwede mo ba itry yung lucy 2160p hdr compare ko lang output sa zidoo NMT
pasyal ka dito bro at paglaruan mo nalang pc ko lol
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 20, 2017 at 08:30 AM
pasyal ka dito bro at paglaruan mo nalang pc ko lol

san ka ba nakatira ngayon?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 20, 2017 at 06:35 PM
san ka ba nakatira ngayon?
dun parin bro
Wed thur off ko
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 21, 2017 at 01:01 PM
Guys, may media player na ba supported ung 4k HDR? Last time I checked, 4k pa lang supported.

Ginagawa ko right now is play the movie directly sa TV via USB. Nadedetect ng TV na HDR sya and auto switch nya picture settings to "HDR brightness". Parang lumalabas I'm better off with the TV as media player mas maganda pa picture quality since displayed ung movie in 4k HDR compared sa PC na 4k SDR lang.. Btw Im using Kodi 17.4 on the PC.

Btw, the movie is encoded in HEVC HDR10
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 21, 2017 at 01:44 PM
Guys, may media player na ba supported ung 4k HDR? Last time I checked, 4k pa lang supported.

Ginagawa ko right now is play the movie directly sa TV via USB. Nadedetect ng TV na HDR sya and auto switch nya picture settings to "HDR brightness". Parang lumalabas I'm better off with the TV as media player mas maganda pa picture quality since displayed ung movie in 4k HDR compared sa PC na 4k SDR lang.. Btw Im using Kodi 17.4 on the PC.

Btw, the movie is encoded in HEVC HDR10

You can set your PC's video renderer (say MadVR) to pass-through HDR information to the display. In most cases this would only work in full screen.

PowerDVD 17 supports HDR when using current generation Intel hardware.  Microsoft Movies & TV is expected to get HDR support soon too.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 21, 2017 at 02:44 PM
^hehehe thanks! I'll switched back to Potplayer or MPC-HC with MADVR..
Btw, if Im using AMD cpu & NVIDIA gpu, hindi magrerender ng HDR10 ung PowerDVD17?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 21, 2017 at 09:27 PM
^hehehe thanks! I'll switched back to Potplayer or MPC-HC with MADVR..
Btw, if Im using AMD cpu & NVIDIA gpu, hindi magrerender ng HDR10 ung PowerDVD17?
PowerDVD 17 with Pascal HDR compatibility is currently broken. Video flickering / blacking out can happen depending on the material. Cyberlink officially supports only Intel Kaby Lake graphics for HDR at this point. Nvidia support mentioned that they are working with Cyberlink to possibly support Nvidia GPUs in the future.

Some are reporting that Movies and TV has working HDR support now. This can be an alternative for you.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 21, 2017 at 11:23 PM
^movies & tv not supporting HDR on my Windows 10 pro right now. Will try MadVR sa weekend..

Btw, I tried using my Minix U9-H with latest firmware upgrade "FW006", HDR on Kodi 17.4 is supported if Android ung OS.. Ang layo difference ng PQ if compared sa HTPC.. Ito ung rankings in my opinion (given HTPC fanboy ako since 2010)

1. Minix U9 2. LG 4k HDR TV built in player 3. HTPC
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 22, 2017 at 03:46 AM
^movies & tv not supporting HDR on my Windows 10 pro right now. Will try MadVR sa weekend..

Btw, I tried using my Minix U9-H with latest firmware upgrade "FW006", HDR on Kodi 17.4 is supported if Android ung OS.. Ang layo difference ng PQ if compared sa HTPC.. Ito ung rankings in my opinion (given HTPC fanboy ako since 2010)

1. Minix U9 2. LG 4k HDR TV built in player 3. HTPC


I believe Microsoft is fixing Movies & TV HDR functionality with different hardware types. They started by enabling HDR in it for Xbox One S users last year. They sell online content for use with this application, afterall. This fall's Creator's Update is expected to bring in a lot of those fixes.

Aside from Cyberlink, Sony is another provider that only supports Kaby Lake for PC HDR access of UltraViolet media.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 23, 2017 at 01:22 PM
^Thanks, one last question, bakit kaya hanggang 8 bps lang color depth nito? I couldn't enable full rgb or ycbcr444. Done updsting drivers
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 24, 2017 at 01:13 AM
^Thanks, one last question, bakit kaya hanggang 8 bps lang color depth nito? I couldn't enable full rgb or ycbcr444. Done updsting drivers
That'd depend on:
1. What resolution you're running (if a higher bit depth is possible with HDMI 2.0 at that resolution)
2. If the Nvidia driver gets to read the EDID from the display correctly
3. If the Chroma Compression, Resolution and Bit Depth combination is supported by Nvidia.

TV support has actually worsened over the past year, imo. Nvidia locks out YCbCr422 and 420 on many displays, preventing the use of high bit depths at higher resolutions. It often also skips the 10bpc option, offering only 12bpc and 8bpc instead.

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 25, 2017 at 01:26 PM

TV support has actually worsened over the past year, imo. Nvidia locks out YCbCr422 and 420 on many displays, preventing the use of high bit depths at higher resolutions. It often also skips the 10bpc option, offering only 12bpc and 8bpc instead.


What NVIDIA did is kill the HTPC market. I dont get the logic why NVIDIA GPU is locked at "limited range", 8 bpc, & YCbCr422 or 420. Eh capable naman ung display? ganun cya at 4k and even on 1080p. If Im using the NVIDIA GPU on my BenQ W1070, tatalunin pa ng AMD HD6570 ung NVIDIA GTX1050ti in terms of PQ kasi ung 6570 naka "full range", Full RGB & 10 bpc..

Just watched "Life of Pi" in 4k HDR using Minix U9 on Kodi V17.4, walang sinabi ung HTPC sa PQ. Mahal na nga ung HTPC, limited pa ung capability (sa display settings), wala pang remote... Only advantage nalang ng HTPC is capacity (8HDD's including 1 SSD). 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 25, 2017 at 10:20 PM
What NVIDIA did is kill the HTPC market. I dont get the logic why NVIDIA GPU is locked at "limited range", 8 bpc, & YCbCr422 or 420. Eh capable naman ung display? ganun cya at 4k and even on 1080p. If Im using the NVIDIA GPU on my BenQ W1070, tatalunin pa ng AMD HD6570 ung NVIDIA GTX1050ti in terms of PQ kasi ung 6570 naka "full range", Full RGB & 10 bpc..

Just watched "Life of Pi" in 4k HDR using Minix U9 on Kodi V17.4, walang sinabi ung HTPC sa PQ. Mahal na nga ung HTPC, limited pa ung capability (sa display settings), wala pang remote... Only advantage nalang ng HTPC is capacity (8HDD's including 1 SSD).
You can try manually editing the EDID information to allow misdetected or disabled display modes. It sometimes works.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 26, 2017 at 03:18 PM
pasyal ka dito bro at paglaruan mo nalang pc ko lol

wala ka ba weekend haha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 26, 2017 at 04:08 PM
wala ka ba weekend haha
sige try ko mag leave
Pag eb kila louie pala bro, daanan mo ako bago punta
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 26, 2017 at 04:14 PM
sige try ko mag leave
Pag eb kila louie pala bro, daanan mo ako bago punta

wala na ht luis haha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Sep 26, 2017 at 11:05 PM
Guys, may media player na ba supported ung 4k HDR? Last time I checked, 4k pa lang supported.

Ginagawa ko right now is play the movie directly sa TV via USB. Nadedetect ng TV na HDR sya and auto switch nya picture settings to "HDR brightness". Parang lumalabas I'm better off with the TV as media player mas maganda pa picture quality since displayed ung movie in 4k HDR compared sa PC na 4k SDR lang.. Btw Im using Kodi 17.4 on the PC.

Btw, the movie is encoded in HEVC HDR10

Hi-Media Q10 Pro supports 4K with HDR
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raider125jeigh on Sep 27, 2017 at 12:19 AM
sige try ko mag leave
Pag eb kila louie pala bro, daanan mo ako bago punta

huwag nyo ako kalimutan kung matuloy hehe
kung saan man mapunta
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 27, 2017 at 12:29 AM
huwag nyo ako kalimutan kung matuloy hehe
kung saan man mapunta
ofcourse bro, 3 seater naman montero ni elmer lol
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Sep 27, 2017 at 10:07 AM
Hi-Media Q10 Pro supports 4K with HDR

Thanks, I also have an NMT that supports 4k HDR. I just wanted my current PC to follow the same route.

4k yes, HDR not yet.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Sep 28, 2017 at 10:53 AM
huwag nyo ako kalimutan kung matuloy hehe
kung saan man mapunta

ofcourse bro, 3 seater naman montero ni elmer lol

malaki si jammy  sa trunk siya dadalhin ko yung city eh  >:D >:D >:D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 04, 2017 at 06:17 AM
ok kaya ito for 4k playback?


gt 1030 2gb (https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=41590879)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Oct 06, 2017 at 01:14 PM
^Nope, get at least 4GB of graphics memory. GTX 1050ti ang minimum pascal-based GPU for smooth 4k HDR playback.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 07, 2017 at 04:16 AM
^thanks bro, ill wait this off the purchase nalang siguro pag nagmura na.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Oct 07, 2017 at 07:12 PM
^Nope, get at least 4GB of graphics memory. GTX 1050ti ang minimum pascal-based GPU for smooth 4k HDR playback.

hirap ba pag below 4GB for 4K HDR?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Oct 09, 2017 at 01:59 PM
^yep, matakaw kasi sa graphics memory ang 8.3M pixels per frame tapos 24, 30 or 60 frames per sec.. The HDR content will probably consume some of the graphics memory too. Currently my total gpu memory is at 6+GB, playing a 4k 40GB movie file size will take 40+% GPU memory utilization (non HDR movie pa un). I haven't checked it if how much GPU memory pag 4k/HDR movie.If 2GB memory lang, Im sure nasa 100% utilization na ung GPU mo which will cause stuttering..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 09, 2017 at 03:04 PM
^thanks for the heads up.  Btw may 1050 ti ba na 6gb ram?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: rulesmeister on Oct 09, 2017 at 03:38 PM
4GB lang ang GTX 1050ti, ung 6GB na mention ko is shared graphics memory (GPU+APU/onboard).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: DTNS on Oct 10, 2017 at 03:44 PM
^thanks for the heads up.  Btw may 1050 ti ba na 6gb ram?

wala. get a GTX 1060 with 6GB DDR5. pwede ka na rin mag Full HD games na naka-max ang settings!  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Oct 11, 2017 at 02:02 AM
^lampas na sa budget bro

btw ano ang advantage ng dual channel and single channel memory sa HTPC?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Nov 25, 2017 at 06:40 AM
Para sa may mga mabibilis na HTPCs at internet connection:
https://youtu.be/1La4QzGeaaQ
https://youtu.be/oAkrKEL8Ncg
https://youtu.be/ygqzQ8XlHTM

Watch them in 8K. :)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Nov 25, 2017 at 03:00 PM
hahaha... pano kaming naka 1080p tv only? :D hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Nov 25, 2017 at 03:49 PM
hahaha... pano kaming naka 1080p tv only? :D hehehe
You can always scale it down. :D Youtube allows bitrate 4X that of typical Blurays when running in 8K. 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on Feb 05, 2018 at 09:23 PM





Hi mga sir,recently got this is htpc,noticed the medyo may lag when opening certain apps,does adding a ram will help para maiwasan ung lag?any suggestion how many gb ram yung ideal na idagdag?i thought kasi dahil ssd na sya eh,wala nang lag when opening apps like kodi,powerdvd,etc

3-3240 CPU @ 3.4 GHZ
Gigabyte z77n
4gb ram
240gb SSD
500w power source
Fractal Casing
Logitech HTPC mouse
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: JT on Mar 28, 2018 at 09:07 AM
I plan to use my imac 27" as gaming monitor.

Any hdmi to mini displayport adapter available there? just like Belkin av360 or kanex xd.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: dm1179 on Mar 28, 2018 at 07:07 PM
Still going strong.. My trusted ITX PC..

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/806/41069461951_0f3aa5284f_o.jpg)

Current setup:

CPU: Intel Core i5-2500K @ Stock
CPU Cooler: Silverstone Argon AR-06 Low Profile
Mobo: Asrock Z77E-ITX
RAM: 16GB (2x8GB) Adata XPG V2 DDR3 1866
SSD: 250GB Samsung 850 EVO
HDD: 3TB Western Digital Green
PSU: Silverstone ST30SF 300W SFX 80PLUS Bronze
Case: Lian-Li PC-Q27
Case Fan: 140cm Gelid Silent 14 PWM
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jhelenz on May 03, 2018 at 09:03 AM
Good day po,just bought a 4k led tv,i have a htpc using a gigabyte z77n built in gpu.ask ko lang sana what is the cheapest gpu that can output 4k?mainly for movies lang sana.thanks in advance po
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jcads on Sep 03, 2018 at 04:05 AM
Hello! I just got a 55 4k HDR capable tv. I would like to build an HTPC running on windows os and can play 4K HDR content without any hiccups. Any tips? Thanks!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wheelee on Sep 03, 2018 at 04:32 PM
I read that the ryzen 3 220G is a good budget HTPC setup.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: jcads on Sep 03, 2018 at 07:16 PM
Tignan ko yan Sir... I'm torn between building an HTPC or just get a NMT... Salamat!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: StoneBolt on Jun 26, 2019 at 05:03 PM
Cheap HTPC Board

https://www.biostar.com.tw/event/A10N-8800E/ (https://www.biostar.com.tw/event/A10N-8800E/)

Price--->https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=43540884 (https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=43540884)

(https://www.biostar.com.tw/upload/Motherboard/b20190109.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: AC on Jul 06, 2019 at 11:31 PM
Cheap HTPC Board

https://www.biostar.com.tw/event/A10N-8800E/ (https://www.biostar.com.tw/event/A10N-8800E/)

napansin ko ddr4? gano po kalakas yan? compared say sa... j1900? something na familiar ako.. hehe
thank you

Price--->https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=43540884 (https://tipidpc.com/viewitem.php?iid=43540884)

(https://www.biostar.com.tw/upload/Motherboard/b20190109.png)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: yonsei55 on Aug 28, 2019 at 12:51 AM
mga sir recently namatayan me ng harddrive. years worth of photos, videos, files and all gone in an instant ang sakit :( tanong ko lang kung ano po bang ok na setup para di na to maulit? yung mura lang po sana and madaling gamitin. alin po mas ok drobo or synology?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: wheelee on Aug 28, 2019 at 09:16 AM
you need a RAID setup then...

alam ko may mga shop na pwedeng mag recover ng mga ganyan, nag hahanap din ako ng dirve ng same as my deadgate, nasunog ng external drive yung PCB. dapat daw same Firmware ang gamitin para umaandar ulit.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: yonsei55 on Aug 30, 2019 at 07:23 PM
madali lang ba magsetup? diy yung freenas kesa bumili ng drobo or synology.

meron nga ata kaso nag aalangan naman me sa security.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: alaeh on Oct 19, 2019 at 11:48 AM
10GBe NAS
(https://i.imgur.com/46w8Hon.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NjqezBS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7a7vqKA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OpRQbJh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/cyIdAPj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/103XMJa.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dgoNv0t.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: alaeh on Dec 27, 2019 at 08:46 PM
Waiting for a few more items to arrive

U-NAS NSC-810A
Asrock Rack D1541D4U-2O8R [embedded Xeon D-1541 with 2x 10Gbe SFP+ ]

(https://i.imgur.com/j081X8d.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OnxVdvD.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ffQ18AJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PNfFa95.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RkGyr06.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dNXI4pq.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: keema on Jan 27, 2020 at 12:10 AM
Hi everyone, I have some movies on my external hard drive plugged in thru usb in my 2012 macmini. The macmini is connected in my avr to get audio via spdif adapter out.

Im using VLC only as player on my macmini. Ano pa bang mga mas okay na player beside vlc sa macmini ko? nabasa ko kodi daw pero papano ko ma-aaccess yung files sa external hdd ko via kodi?

At papano ang setup sa kodi sa macmini para makapag output ng dolby or dts 5.1 pag pine-play na yung movies? thanks..
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: alaeh on Feb 06, 2020 at 01:52 AM
UPDATE #1
Have recently added a Quadro P2000 to my build for Plex transcoding. Found a great deal for it

So far i've put together a basic running build.. currently testing on UNRAID although I still have not committed to the disks I want to use. 

Pulled from Dell T420
8 x 480GB SSD for storage and parity
1 X DC P3700 800GB for Caching

I want to use Ultrastars but not sure if I can benefit from their performance much given the nature of how UNRAID stores parity information which tend to favor storage capacity rather than performance. Although SSD Caching does seem to help as I'm able to do average 650-900MB transfer rates out of the box with no tuning yet. 

(https://i.imgur.com/IclAPrQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ohgpacV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/veFLJSx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/PNoqbba.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8ouS41Q.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LqAiJzy.jpg)

10GBE Read and Write Performance
(https://i.imgur.com/IoBhQkV.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/TrGHvtg.jpg)

UPDATE #2
Wasn't too happy with UNRAID's performance considering it is a paid software but can't really fault it because it never claimed to be a good NAS. I think UNRAID shines more as a hypervisor than a NAS.

Anyhow, I took a different.. and cheaper route... I decided to go with Proxmox because it supports hardware passthrough which allows the VMs or containers to manage resources directly so that it will work as close to native performance

It took a bit more work and some sleepless nights but given the wealth of information available online nowadays I was able to install both FreeNAS and Plex
Server running on Centos.

Using Proxmox, I was able to assign physical disks to FreeNAS could it manage directly and I showered it with lots of ECC RAM. Unlike UNRAID, FreeNAS performs better if you give it more RAM. I get way better transfer speeds even without the benefit of NVME for caching

As for Plex on Centos with GPU passthrough, took a bit more work. First, all my media are on FreeNAS so I had to mount it via CIFS to CentOS and setup
some scripts for it to remount each time the VM is rebooted.

Also, I wanted the Quadro P2000 GPU to do all the heavy lifting ie encoding and decoding so I had get it to use FFMPEG othewise the CPU will still share with some of the heavy lifting.

The result is quite actually satisfying. I'm able to run 3 concurrent Plex streams each forcing the P2000 to transcode 4K to 1080P and my CPU utilization
is barely 20% considering I only assigned the CentOS VM 2 cores to play with.

Same goes for FreeNAS, by assigning it only 2 CPUs, I'm still able to get close to 10Gbe transfer speeds.

Quadro P2000 doing the heavy lifting
(https://i.imgur.com/PRaKdgU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NvQKP7a.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/f6JIiFH.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/710AIKK.jpg)

FreeNAS file transfer performance
(https://i.imgur.com/dWenx0T.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/HVnXQUe.jpg)

What's inside U-NAS case
(https://i.imgur.com/4TVt6W7.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5TPaQCd.jpg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: flashDB on Feb 06, 2020 at 07:59 AM
wow hardcore!

off topic: there is a way to decode aac 5.1 to dolby/dts?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: sillyputty on Dec 23, 2020 at 06:10 PM
Been away from htpc...can we now build an htpc that can decode atmos and output it via rca? If yes what do i need? 5.1.2 setup and my receiver is pretty old but it has multi-channel input but no hdmi

Going to build a gaming rig for my kids...might as well have it do dual-purpose as an htpc


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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 08, 2021 at 12:18 PM
using a10 9700 lang
di kaya 4k movies

ano ba ang ok na video card na mura lang, strictly movie playback lang ng 4k and no games
mahal kasi ryzen 2nd hand 2000 and 3000 series (yun lang kaya ng msi b350m mortar)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Sep 08, 2021 at 01:21 PM
^ wala atang mura na ok na video card ngayon. Kahit 2nd hand mahal pa rin.

Sa tingin ko baka mas okay pa na bumili nalang ng barebones mini PC na naka Intel Tiger Lake-U (11th gen core) since maganda yung built-in video decoder ng Xe Iris Pro graphics niya. Pati AV1 decode meron. Sa AMD, wala pa atang APU na may AV1 decode support. Vega pa kasi yung integrated graphics sa latest na APUs nila. Siguro pag nagkaroon ng APU na naka RDNA2 graphics, okay din yung pang HTPC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 08, 2021 at 02:25 PM
using a10 9700 lang
di kaya 4k movies

ano ba ang ok na video card na mura lang, strictly movie playback lang ng 4k and no games
mahal kasi ryzen 2nd hand 2000 and 3000 series (yun lang kaya ng msi b350m mortar)

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Magkano po budget?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 08, 2021 at 10:12 PM
Magkano po budget?
hi bro
tipong less than 5k lang sana.
pero sabi ng barkada ko, weak daw masyado cpu baka suminok parin daw
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 09, 2021 at 12:11 AM
hi bro
tipong less than 5k lang sana.
pero sabi ng barkada ko, weak daw masyado cpu baka suminok parin daw
Alam ko kaya ng A10-9700 4k. Mas malakas pa yan sa phone processor so dapat kaya 4k, kahit 30Hz lang.

Anong motherboard niyan?

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 09, 2021 at 04:04 AM
Alam ko kaya ng A10-9700 4k. Mas malakas pa yan sa phone processor so dapat kaya 4k, kahit 30Hz lang.

Anong motherboard niyan?

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sumisinok bro as in tearing and lag
built in vga lang gamit ko and mobo is msi b350m mortar with latest bios naman
will try 30hz since naka 60hz sya ngayon


update: forgot to mention ok pala 4k youtube playback
must me the players im using
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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Verbl Kint on Sep 09, 2021 at 03:21 PM
Yung hardware acceleration option pa check na rin sa mga video players. :)

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 09, 2021 at 09:19 PM
Yung hardware acceleration option pa check na rin sa mga video players. :)

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thanks bro
gom vlc splash ayaw kanina
maya check hardware acceleration hehehe

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 07:01 AM
hi bro
tipong less than 5k lang sana.
pero sabi ng barkada ko, weak daw masyado cpu baka suminok parin daw

He's wrong. The problem is YouTube's 4K is now limited to VP9 and AV1; the UVD in your APU does not decode those formats in hardware.

YouTube used to have 4K in AVC (that your UVD supports) but that was phased out a few years ago to reduce storage and bandwidth needs.

If you're using Chrome or Edge to play the videos, you can install h264ify if you want to run hardware acceleration in YouTube. This will however block all non-AVC content so 4K and 8K would not be available to you.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2021 at 07:03 AM
He's wrong. The problem is YouTube's 4K is now limited to VP9 and AV1; the UVD in your APU does not decode those formats in hardware.

YouTube used to have 4K in AVC (that your UVD supports) but that was phased out a few years ago to reduce storage and bandwidth needs.

If you're using Chrome or Edge to play the videos, you can install h264ify if you want to run hardware acceleration in YouTube. This will however block all non-AVC content so 4K and 8K would not be available to you.
how about vlc, kmplayer and gom master, kahit enable hardware acceleration sumisinok parin
btw master, ok na sya sa youtube 4k playback
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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 07:19 AM
The frame drops that you're experiencing is because your computer is decoding the VP9 or AV1 stream in software (exceeding the CPU's capacity). Your PC will be able to decode Blu-ray 4K material however, as that uses a HEVC stream that the UVD in your APU decodes in hardware.

YouTube is in the process of removing 8K in VP9 too for storage and bandwidth conservation (leaving AV1 as the way to get 8K content). If you're planning to get a CPU/APU/GPU, AV1 support is the best way to ensure 8K compatibility. Aside from Google, Netflix, Amazon, Microsoft, Facebook, IBM, Cisco, etc. are fully supporting AV1 as the codec for high quality streams (slowly supplanting HEVC and VP9).

This is the same reason why 8K TVs typically run Samsung or Mediatek chips (none of the current Qualcomm chips support AV1). This is why the Exynos variant of the S21 should be able to do 8K via the major streaming platforms while the Snapdragon variant could not.




Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 07:29 AM
how about vlc, kmplayer and gom master, kahit enable hardware acceleration sumisinok parin
btw master, ok na sya sa youtube 4k playback
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Check your CPU and GPU utilization. If you're running YouTube in 4K, you will see that GPU decode may not be utilized. This will be much higher if you're viewing 60Hz content. Open stats for nerds to watch for frame drops. Bristol Ridge has had spotty VP9 support (some acceleration enabled in some early driver versions and not on more recent releases).

All the players that you mentioned are just dependent on what codecs are available and how they're configured and programmed. If the codecs take advantage of the hardware decoding and/or acceleration features of your APU or if it reverts to purely software handling will be a huge determinant for performance. In cases when you'd have to revert to purely software decoding, performance between codecs can also vary significantly.


For local 4K playback with your APU, choose 4K AVC or HEVC sources so that your UVD can decode them in hardware. For streaming sources, Vimeo and Amazon Prime use some HEVC (VP9 though inferior to HEVC is more common since it's royalty-free).


The next battle is between VVC and AV1. VVC is a superior format to AV1, but AV1 is simpler and is royalty-free. The latter seems to be winning once more.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 08:57 AM
Right now the desktop HTPC options are:

8K AV1
Intel Iris Xe (11th Gen Core series) integrated graphics
Intel Iris Xe MAX dedicated graphics
AMD RDNA 2 (Radeon RX 6000 / Radeon Pro W6000 series) dedicated graphics
Nvidia Ampere (GeForce RTX 30 / RTX A series) dedicated graphics


4K VP9
Intel Generation 9.5 / Kaby Lake (7th Gen Core / Xeon E3 v6 series) or newer integrated graphics

Intel Generation 9.5 / Gemini Lake (Celeron J or N 4xxx / Pentium Silver J or N 5xxx series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000 G APU series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD RDNA (Radeon RX 5000 / Radeon Pro W5000 series) or newer dedicated graphics
Nvidia Pascal (GeForce 10 / Quadro P series) or newer dedicated graphics


4K HEVC
Intel Generation 9 / Skylake (6th Gen Core / Xeon E3 v5 series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Bristol Ridge (7th Gen APU series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Polaris (Radeon RX 400 / Radeon Pro WX series) or newer dedicated graphics
Nvidia 2nd Gen Maxwell (Geforce 900 / Quadro M series) or newer dedicated graphics

For mobile machines, do note that there are some GPUs that may carry similar branding but may be from an older family (rebadged products). Those models will normally offer the decode ability of the chip family that they belong to (say a Quadro M2000M will not have hardware HEVC support since it's still a 1st Gen Maxwell chip).

Aside from decode support, always check the connectivity support that you need (HDMI / DP version and HDCP support).

If you need Microsoft PlayReady 3.0 support, the minimum requirements are:
Intel Generation 9.5 / Kaby Lake (7th Gen Core / Xeon E3 v6 series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Polaris (Radeon RX 400 / Radeon Pro WX series) or newer dedicated graphics
Nvidia Pascal (GeForce 10 / Quadro P series) or newer dedicated graphics

For HDMI 2.1 support without an adapter, the only options are the following at the moment:
AMD RDNA 2 (Radeon RX 6000 series) dedicated graphics
Nvidia Ampere (GeForce RTX 30 / RTX A xxxxM series) dedicated graphics
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 09:33 AM
If you have working AV1 support, the videos in this playlist will appear in 8K:
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxlYufCbJvEZh4FEOnO3LyBOAu6arYb-E (https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxlYufCbJvEZh4FEOnO3LyBOAu6arYb-E)
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAHHRXXBNrE9dc50XrKj5eg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAHHRXXBNrE9dc50XrKj5eg)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2021 at 10:55 AM
Right now the desktop HTPC options are:

8K AV1
Intel Iris Xe (11th Gen Core series) integrated graphics
Intel Iris Xe MAX dedicated graphics
AMD RDNA 2 (Radeon RX 6000 / Radeon Pro W6000 series) dedicated graphics
Nvidia Ampere (GeForce RTX 30 / RTX A series) dedicated graphics


4K VP9
Intel Generation 9.5 / Kaby Lake (7th Gen Core / Xeon E3 v6 series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Raven Ridge (Ryzen 2000 G APU series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD RDNA (Radeon RX 5000 / Radeon Pro W5000 series) or newer dedicated graphics
Nvidia Pascal (GeForce 10 / Quadro P series) or newer dedicated graphics


4K HEVC
Intel Generation 9 / Skylake (6th Gen Core / Xeon E3 v5 series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Bristol Ridge (7th Gen APU series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Polaris (Radeon RX 400 / Radeon Pro WX series) or newer dedicated graphics
Nvidia 2nd Gen Maxwell (Geforce 900 / Quadro M series) or newer dedicated graphics

For mobile machines, do note that there are some GPUs that may carry similar branding but may be from an older family (rebadged products). Those models will normally offer the decode ability of the chip family that they belong to (say a Quadro M2000M will not have hardware HEVC support since it's still a 1st Gen Maxwell chip).

Aside from decode support, always check the connectivity support that you need (HDMI / DP version and HDCP support).

If you need Microsoft PlayReady 3.0 support, the minimum requirements are:
Intel Generation 9.5 / Kaby Lake (7th Gen Core / Xeon E3 v6 series) or newer integrated graphics
AMD Polaris (Radeon RX 400 / Radeon Pro WX series) or newer dedicated graphics
Nvidia Pascal (GeForce 10 / Quadro P series) or newer dedicated graphics


For HDMI 2.1 support without an adapter, the only options are the following at the moment:
AMD RDNA 2 (Radeon RX 6000 series) dedicated graphics
Nvidia Ampere (GeForce RTX 30 / RTX A xxxxM series) dedicated graphics

master intay ako price drop ng ryzen 3400 or 3200g, ok na kaya ito?  ^_^
most of my contents naman are 1080p, minsan nga lang may naliligaw na 4k
i
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 11:32 AM
master intay ako price drop ng ryzen 3400 or 3200g, ok na kaya ito?  ^_^
most of my contents naman are 1080p, minsan nga lang may naliligaw na 4k
i

Check mo codec ng content na pinapanood mo. Kung VP9, okay na yan Picasso APUs. Get the 3400G na, para at least 8-thread.

If you'd notice sa list mas nauna isupport ang HEVC over VP9 ng hardware makers kasi expected nila na HEVC ang magiging popular format dahil siya ang ineendorse ng Blu-ray Disc Association, Microsoft and Apple. Di nila pinansin ang codec ng Google na VP9, but dahil ginawang royalty-free nagsilipatan sa VP9 ang madami to follow YouTube's lead. Napakambyo ang hardware makers to include support for VP9 nung pakonti ng pakonti na ang nagmimigrate to HEVC.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2021 at 11:41 AM
Check mo codec ng content na pinapanood mo. Kung VP9, okay na yan Picasso APUs. Get the 3400G na, para at least 8-thread.

If you'd notice sa list mas nauna isupport ang HEVC over VP9 ng hardware makers kasi expected nila na HEVC ang magiging popular format dahil siya ang ineendorse ng Blu-ray Disc Association, Microsoft and Apple. Di nila pinansin ang codec ng Google na VP9, but dahil ginawang royalty-free nagsilipatan sa VP9 ang madami to follow YouTube's lead. Napakambyo ang hardware makers to include support for VP9 nung pakonti ng pakonti na ang nagmimigrate to HEVC.

thanks master, medyo mahal pa kasi apu amd talaga kaya di makabili hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 13, 2021 at 12:20 PM
thanks master, medyo mahal pa kasi apu amd talaga kaya di makabili hehehe

Yup, medyo mahal piyesa ngayon. Dedicated GPUs sobra laki tinaas kaya may pressure din sa APUs.

Ang cheapest option with hardware 4K VP9 decode is Gemini Lake (Celeron / Pentium Silver), pero baka sobrang bagal na for your general use maski okay decoder.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 13, 2021 at 03:47 PM
Yup, medyo mahal piyesa ngayon. Dedicated GPUs sobra laki tinaas kaya may pressure din sa APUs.

Ang cheapest option with hardware 4K VP9 decode is Gemini Lake (Celeron / Pentium Silver), pero baka sobrang bagal na for your general use maski okay decoder.
oo nga master
will wait nalang, im sure in 2-3 years marami na mag dispose ng gen 3 ryzen nila (b350m mortar lang kasi mobo ko hehehe)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 14, 2021 at 05:52 AM
oo nga master
will wait nalang, im sure in 2-3 years marami na mag dispose ng gen 3 ryzen nila (b350m mortar lang kasi mobo ko hehehe)

Pag ikaw mga 2-3 days lang yan waiting period eh.  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2021 at 06:33 AM
Pag ikaw mga 2-3 days lang yan waiting period eh.  ;D

pag naging konsi nako master hehehe
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Sep 14, 2021 at 11:07 AM
oo nga master
will wait nalang, im sure in 2-3 years marami na mag dispose ng gen 3 ryzen nila (b350m mortar lang kasi mobo ko hehehe)
Mejo nagtaas nga Ryzen Gen 3 bro. Almost a year ago nakabili ako Ryzen Gen 3 2200G for P3,700 (discounted price original price of P4k). When I checked again pinakamura na is at 5.5K (not sure kung legit as new seller pa lang) and pinakamahal is 7.7k. Generally it's in the 6-7k range. And you would think it should have gone down already pero mas nagmahal pa.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: ninjababez® on Sep 14, 2021 at 11:38 AM
Mejo nagtaas nga Ryzen Gen 3 bro. Almost a year ago nakabili ako Ryzen Gen 3 2200G for P3,700 (discounted price original price of P4k). When I checked again pinakamura na is at 5.5K (not sure kung legit as new seller pa lang) and pinakamahal is 7.7k. Generally it's in the 6-7k range. And you would think it should have gone down already pero mas nagmahal pa.
oo nga e
feeling ko benta mo sakin yan 2200g mo @ a discount hahaha
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Sep 14, 2021 at 12:44 PM
oo nga e
feeling ko benta mo sakin yan 2200g mo @ a discount hahaha
Hehehe. Naunahan ka ni utol bro. Nasa Nueva Ecija na yung pc ko. Bili ka na daw ng bagong mobo bro. Bukod sa mahilig ka sa mani, maning-mani lang sa yo yan. :D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Sep 14, 2021 at 01:41 PM
pag naging konsi nako master hehehe

Sakto na yun after next elections. Supported na din ng Windows 11 ang Picasso series.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 10, 2021 at 11:36 AM
Mejo nagtaas nga Ryzen Gen 3 bro. Almost a year ago nakabili ako Ryzen Gen 3 2200G for P3,700 (discounted price original price of P4k). When I checked again pinakamura na is at 5.5K (not sure kung legit as new seller pa lang) and pinakamahal is 7.7k. Generally it's in the 6-7k range. And you would think it should have gone down already pero mas nagmahal pa.

Kaya ako masaya na ako sa nvidia shield ko with synology NAS can handle any 4k  ;D
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Blackstar on Nov 10, 2021 at 12:02 PM
Kaya ako masaya na ako sa nvidia shield ko with synology NAS can handle any 4k  ;D
Katapusan na ng mundo @Bro Jammy! Tumalikod na sa htpc si GIJoe. Ang staunch defender ng htpc for media playback/use. Hehehe. Ano nangyari bro at tumalikod ka na sa htpc?
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 10, 2021 at 12:05 PM
Katapusan na ng mundo @Bro Jammy! Tumalikod na sa htpc si GIJoe. Ang staunch defender ng htpc for media playback/use. Hehehe. Ano nangyari bro at tumalikod ka na sa htpc?

Haha bat pa ako papakahirap eh may mga nvidia shield na napakadali at napakaliit at mas mura pa siya mag 5 years na shield ko no issue so far. Ang mahal pa ng computer parts papakahirap ka pa bumuo.  >:D >:D >:D

Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 10, 2021 at 12:49 PM
Tapos nakuha ko pa ng sale sa amazon yung nvidia shield ko plan ko nga add ng isa pang shield this black friday para updated sa dolby vision na.  ::)
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Nov 10, 2021 at 02:17 PM
in my case, I disposed my media players ... kaya na ng mga bagong tv mag-play kahit na anong format, just need NAS or USB storage
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Nov 10, 2021 at 03:23 PM
Hindi na rin worthit yung HTPC para sa akin. Pro problemahin ko pa kung pano I configure yung HDR atbp. sa settings sa MPC-HC para paganahin. Pati GPU decoder support ng video kailangan pang I check kung supported lalo na yung VP9 at AV1.

Sa mga bagong Smart TV or shield/chromecast hindi mo na iniisip yung mga yun. They just work. Mas maganda pa ang upscaling in my experience.

My setup: Synology DS1819+ upnp dlna to LG C1, via ethernet through router.

Yung native media player app lang ng LG C1 yung gamit ko. No plex, no transcoding. Simple lang interface at plays everything fine and I mean everything: 4K, AV1, VP9, HDR, Dolby Vision and so on.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Nov 10, 2021 at 06:21 PM
Hindi na rin worthit yung HTPC para sa akin. Pro problemahin ko pa kung pano I configure yung HDR atbp. sa settings sa MPC-HC para paganahin. Pati GPU decoder support ng video kailangan pang I check kung supported lalo na yung VP9 at AV1.

Sa mga bagong Smart TV or shield/chromecast hindi mo na iniisip yung mga yun. They just work. Mas maganda pa ang upscaling in my experience.

My setup: Synology DS1819+ upnp dlna to LG C1, via ethernet through router.

Yung native media player app lang ng LG C1 yung gamit ko. No plex, no transcoding. Simple lang interface at plays everything fine and I mean everything: 4K, AV1, VP9, HDR, Dolby Vision and so on.

I'm using an older version of LG TV, yung Nano Cell circa 2017 ... I'm using a 6TB WD NAS, lahat din ng format kaya i-play ... planning to upgrade early next year to an LG C1 or Sony A80J, pretty sure na mas better ang compatibility on any formats ... nahabol na ng smart tv technology ang previous na purpose ng mga HTPC at Media Players .... ang dami pa ng debates natin before about which is the better one, parehong di na worth to have nowadays ... even gaming consoles have more advanced capabilities now
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: GIJoe on Nov 10, 2021 at 11:51 PM
in my case, I disposed my media players ... kaya na ng mga bagong tv mag-play kahit na anong format, just need NAS or USB storage

New TV even may EArc can't play lossless audio like DTSHD-MA+DTS-X and Trued-HD+Atmos so need ko pa din ng media player. DD++Atmos and DTS okay lang. Almost all my collection na nasa NAS is remux with lossless audio.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Nov 11, 2021 at 06:46 AM
I'm using an older version of LG TV, yung Nano Cell circa 2017 ... I'm using a 6TB WD NAS, lahat din ng format kaya i-play ... planning to upgrade early next year to an LG C1 or Sony A80J, pretty sure na mas better ang compatibility on any formats ... nahabol na ng smart tv technology ang previous na purpose ng mga HTPC at Media Players .... ang dami pa ng debates natin before about which is the better one, parehong di na worth to have nowadays ... even gaming consoles have more advanced capabilities now

Before getting the A80J, try to play a video via YouTube and turn on the stats for nerds. Sony tends to run its smart interface at 1080P para smooth mga overlay. To do this, they downscale the streamed video to 1080P tapos upscale ulet to 4K or 8K depending on the model.

They're running a newer SoC sa 2021 models that they say can decode 4K (the SoC itself is capable of 8K30, pero locked-out ng Sony ang 8K streaming functionality at this point). Technically kaya na dapat mag 4K nung hardware ng A80J without the lossy process of downscaling then upscaling, pero double-check na lang kung yung software nila is now allowing this.

We have 2020 and older Sony TVs; pet peeve ko yung internal scaling issue kaya gumagamit pa din ako ng external players (HTPC and BDP)... noticeably better yung image from an external source in my experience with these TVs,
 
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Apr 19, 2022 at 05:15 AM
Support for BD playback (especially 4K Blurays) is starting to end in PCs.

We already know that Intel removed the SGX extensions this year. Now the feature is slowly being deprecated in older machines via software through driver and OS updates (it can still be remedied, however). The reason for this move is the presence of serious security flaws in the feature.

Cyberlink drops support for 4K BD playback:
https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-content.do?id=26690&ez_cid=CLIENT_ID(AMP_ECID_EZOIC)

There are still Chinese apps that support 4K BD playback;I just don’t know how secure they are. Ripping the discs would be another option.

This change makes HTPCs less palatable for many, pushing people like me towards dedicated players and consoles.

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Arulco on Apr 19, 2022 at 08:31 AM

Support for BD playback (especially 4K Blurays) is starting to end in PCs.

We already know that Intel removed the SGX extensions this year. Now the feature is slowly being deprecated in older machines via software through driver and OS updates (it can still be remedied, however). The reason for this move is the presence of serious security flaws in the feature.

Cyberlink drops support for 4K BD playback:
https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-content.do?id=26690&ez_cid=CLIENT_ID(AMP_ECID_EZOIC)

There are still Chinese apps that support 4K BD playback;I just don’t know how secure they are. Ripping the discs would be another option.

This change makes HTPCs less palatable for many, pushing people like me towards dedicated players and consoles.

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Agreed. HTPC involves too much effort to get it to work right IMHO. Ever since I got my Synology NAS, LG C1 TV and more recently, a 4K Bluray Player. It just works™

The newest TV SoCs are becoming more capable too in terms of responsiveness, image processing and supported video formats.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: raptor on Apr 19, 2022 at 12:31 PM
Support for BD playback (especially 4K Blurays) is starting to end in PCs.

We already know that Intel removed the SGX extensions this year. Now the feature is slowly being deprecated in older machines via software through driver and OS updates (it can still be remedied, however). The reason for this move is the presence of serious security flaws in the feature.

Cyberlink drops support for 4K BD playback:
https://www.cyberlink.com/support/faq-content.do?id=26690&ez_cid=CLIENT_ID(AMP_ECID_EZOIC)

There are still Chinese apps that support 4K BD playback;I just don’t know how secure they are. Ripping the discs would be another option.

This change makes HTPCs less palatable for many, pushing people like me towards dedicated players and consoles.

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hardware wise, halos di na readily available mga internal disc players for PC's whether its DVD or BD ... new PC cases no longer have provisions for disc players ... puro streaming at torrent download kung wala sa subscribed streaming channel yung content
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Apr 19, 2022 at 01:40 PM
hardware wise, halos di na readily available mga internal disc players for PC's whether its DVD or BD ... new PC cases no longer have provisions for disc players ... puro streaming at torrent download kung wala sa subscribed streaming channel yung content
Yup, madalas di na nakastock sa physical stores. Online na lang madalas nabibili yung drives and karamihan external na nga.

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Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Verbl Kint on Apr 19, 2022 at 04:39 PM
Truth be told, I still keep an old Windows Vista installer and an external HD-DVD Rom drive (I hope it still works lol).  I have a couple dozen HD DVD's which I will probably never let go of and might actually end up wanting to view later (some are still unopened, btw).

For blu-rays, I always rip them, use the ISO's for viewing, and keep the discs stored.  I shudder now at having to manually look for actual discs under piles of hoarded media.  This also probably means that I should never let go of my trusty Xbox One S.  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Apr 20, 2022 at 02:57 AM
The newest TV SoCs are becoming more capable too in terms of responsiveness, image processing and supported video formats.

Agree. Most of the major brands are really running either Mediatek or Samsung SoCs inside. Right now only the 8K models tend to have the best SoCs that support AV1 and VVC decode and improved scaling methods, but I'm hoping that they'd start fitting these into 4K TVs.

Flagship TV SOCs:
MediaTek | MediaTek Pentonic 2000 (https://www.mediatek.com/products/digital-tv/mediatek-pentonic-2000)
S.LSI Developers and Ultra-High-Definition 8K TV Technology | Samsung Semiconductor Global (https://semiconductor.samsung.com/newsroom/tech-blog/samsungs-s-lsi-developers-on-the-semiconductors-that-support-ultra-high-definition-8k-tv-technology/)

What I don't like about most Smart TVs is that they don't downscale higher res content (most will not let you view a higher bitrate 8K stream on a 4K screen, etc.). The same is true for most set-top boxes... this is a feature that can easily be done by an HTPC if the material isn't DRM restricted. Another thing is viewport scaling for certain video sources on many TVs (mostly Android and Roku TVs/STBs); using an HTPC gives me a sharper image because of this (no viewport scaling).
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 23, 2022 at 10:49 PM
Yup, madalas di na nakastock sa physical stores. Online na lang madalas nabibili yung drives and karamihan external na nga.

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2016 ko pa ata naging issue ito. I bought 3 types of BD players for PC. Palpak lahat. I think ito ang perks ng legit BDs Haha!
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Stagea on Apr 24, 2022 at 02:38 AM
2016 ko pa ata naging issue ito. I bought 3 types of BD players for PC. Palpak lahat. I think ito ang perks ng legit BDs Haha!
Daming binili! Xbox One S pwedeng murang BDP.
Title: Re: Unofficial HTPC users thread: Tips, Tricks, and everything HTPC
Post by: Nelson de Leon on Apr 24, 2022 at 02:26 PM
Daming binili! Xbox One S pwedeng murang BDP.
Yes. Ang consequences lang, baka magka-hilig ako sa gaming, ubos oras. Haha!

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